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"They Hate Us:" The Democrat Base is Revolting.
I Mean, They've Always Been Revolting. Now They're Rebelling.
You're going to see this analogy a lot, that Democrats want their own Tea Party. Except the Tea Party was demanding the Republican Party do the things they'd said they'd do but had not done. On the other hand, the Democrat Party has already embraced the insane, anti-American, anti-white, anti-male, anti-straight discrimination and hatred demanded by their base. They have protected and encouraged illegal alien criminals to come to America and rape American children. They have shut down the country in an escalating game of Quien Es Mas Karen? They have stolen children from parents so that the state can pump them full of transgender hormones. They've done all these things, and the public has given its judgment of them. So this isn't a base that is demanding the party try something new. This is a base demanding that the party double-down on all the things the public hates and has already rejected.
As Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer knows better than anyone, the Democratic base is pissed off. And not just a little. The intensity of the anger roiling the party is at a historic level, suggesting a breach between congressional Democrats and the party grassroots so severe that it could reshape the 2026 primary election season. Congressional Democrats have typically enjoyed higher popularity with their voting base than their Republican counterparts. But the trauma of the 2024 presidential election defeat appears to have ruptured that relationship. A review of Quinnipiac University's annual first-quarter congressional polling reveals that, for the first time in the poll's history, congressional Democrats are now underwater with their own voters in approval ratings. Just 40 percent of Democrats approve of the job performance of congressional Democrats, compared to 49 percent who disapprove. That's a dramatic change from this time last year, when 75 percent of Democrats approved compared to just 21 percent who disapproved. The Democratic base's disillusionment runs so deep that it's eerily reminiscent of Republican grassroots sentiment in the period leading up to Donald Trump's takeover of the Republican Party.
Hm, they want the Democrats to try #resisting Trump and rejecting his every proposal no matter how reasonable or popular or self-evidently correct. And they actually think the Democrats have not done this for the past nine years. Axios reports on Democrat Congressmen feeling scared by the leftwingers attending their town halls.
The numbers are clear: No longer satisfied with the status quo in their party, Democrats are on the verge of a Tea Party-style, intra-party revolt. The Democratic approval data is unlike any in recent history -- and it isn't a case of bitter, disaffected partisans reacting to a loss in the last election. The first time Democrats lost an election to Donald Trump, their congressional approval ratings within the party actually ticked up, as Democratic base voters largely approved of the ways that party leadership resisted the Trump administration in early 2017. The same phenomenon surfaced among Republicans in 2021 when, despite Trump's defeat and the subsequent chaos of Jan. 6, Republican voters remained generally positive regarding their views on the congressional GOP. ... Despite the restive energy in the party's progressive wing, the Democratic discontent does not seem to be centered around a desire to pull the party to the left or the right. Democrats cannot seem to agree on which direction the party should move in -- recent Gallup polling found that 45 percent wanted the party to become more moderate, while 29 percent felt it should become more liberal, and 22 percent wanted it to stay the same. ... Instead, the numbers suggest that the fury is at least partly fueled by the Democratic base's dissatisfaction with congressional leadership's relatively conciliatory approach to Trump this time around, and their inability to stop him.
Yes, there you go. That's what they really mean: They want office-holders to begin openly calling for violence and leading the violent revolution. So I'll just say it: I want you to do that. We all do. Do it. We're itching for it. Do you think we've been stocking up on guns for 40 years because we're too afraid to fight for ourselves? Young voters have abandoned the Democrat Geriatric Revolutionary Party:
Democratic members of Congress, back home in their districts for the last week, have been encountering a level of anger and hostility that some see as reminiscent of the 2010 Tea Party wave.
... State of play: Democratic town halls across the country have been erupting into fury over Senate Democrats' decision to let a Republican spending bill pass rather than use it as leverage to constrain DOGE. Several House Democrats, pressed on Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) folding in the government spending fight, have responded that the Senate leader should step down. Rep. Sean Casten's (D-Ill.) town hall was repeatedly rocked by disruptions and was shut down by police after 45 minutes due to outbursts from pro-Palestinian protesters. What we're hearing: The senior House Democrat told Axios that a colleague called them after a town hall crying and said: "They hate us. They hate us." ...
"Another thing I got was: 'Democrats are too nice. Nice and civility doesn't work. Are you prepared for violence?'"
More from Fox News. But apparently fat-assed dumpy AWFL Karens think they're going to wage war on strong young men and... win?
Owen Gregorian
@OwenGregorian NYT writer says Dems are 'getting destroyed' as data show Gen Z 'most conservative' generation in decades | Alexander Hall, Fox News Ezra Klein suggested that Democratic assumptions about youth support have proven 'completely false' amid President Donald Trump's return to power New York Times columnist Ezra Klein spoke with a Democratic pollster Tuesday about how the dream of an ascendant Democratic majority is imploding as younger voters, especially White men, flee the party. Klein interviewed David Shor, the head of data science at Blue Rose Research, a Democratic polling firm, for his podcast in an episode titled "Democrats Need to Face Why Trump Won." When Klein and Shor reviewed numerous charts, including one headlined, "2024 Democratic Support by Age -- Split by Race and Gender," the pollster explained that in this chart in particular, "One thing you can notice is that among 18-year-olds, women of color are the only of the four [race and gender demographic groups] that Harris won. Trump narrowly won nonwhite men." The Times columnist seized on one "shocking" finding in the data that defies one of the Democratic Party's core beliefs. "I find this part of this chart shocking. I sometimes talk about narrative violations, and if we knew anything about Donald Trump eight years ago, it was that young people didn't like him. And Republicans had been maybe throwing away young people for generations in order to run up their margins among seniors," Klein said. "But if you look at this chart, 75-year-old White men supported Kamala Harris at a significantly higher rate than 20-year-old White men."
"It is a real shift," Shor agreed. "This is the thing I am the most shocked by in the last four years -- that young people have gone from being the most progressive generation since the Baby Boomers, and maybe even in some ways more so, to becoming potentially the most conservative generation that we've experienced maybe in 50 to 60 years." The data expert went on to discuss what he called "the scariest chart in this entire presentation," which shows the massive and historically unusual polarization between young men and women. "What's crazy is that if you look at people under the age of 30, the gender gap has exploded. Eighteen-year-old men were 23 percentage points more likely to support Donald Trump than 18-year-old women, which is just completely unprecedented in American politics," Shor said. ... Klein noted numerous factors at play in recent years, ranging from the #MeToo movement and the rise of the Manosphere, to how "there's a sense the Democratic Party is becoming much more a pro-women party and in some ways, sort of anti-young men. And that, in turn, had a huge effect on young men's political opinions." ... "Democrats are getting destroyed now among young voters. I do think that, even as the idea of the rising demographic Democratic majority became a little discredited in 2016 and 2020, Democrats believed that these young voters were eventually going to save them," [Klein] said.
NYC ‘Karen’ accosts and assaults MAGA dude on the subway, tries to steal his hat
— Judy HS (@JudyHS13) March 23, 2025
But karma gets her in the end; just wait for it in the video pic.twitter.com/mUtSHyddg2
CNN is forced to admit that 63% of Americans favor deporting criminal illegal aliens.
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) March 23, 2025
“That’s a pretty high number…” pic.twitter.com/Xc554OXkjY
Steve Scalise nearly killed.
— Tom Bevan (@TomBevanRCP) March 24, 2025
Two assassination attempts on Donald Trump's life.
Teslas getting firebombed as we speak.
But Mark Barabak wants to make sure you know it's Trump's fault that Eric Swalwell has to have a security guard. pic.twitter.com/D3BVrDu17A
The difference speaks volumes! pic.twitter.com/AXksMPl4T1
— Defiant L’s (@DefiantLs) March 24, 2025
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You know who's fault this is.
Posted by: Flashy the Dwarf at March 24, 2025 06:15 PM (vFG9F)
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They stink on ice!
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 24, 2025 06:16 PM (/tzYP)
Posted by: William Tecumseh Sherman at March 24, 2025 06:16 PM (l3YAf)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at March 24, 2025 06:16 PM (PiwSw)
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Best buckle up. Thing are going to get pretty sporty this summer whether you're onboard, or not.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 24, 2025 06:16 PM (Q4IgG)
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Gee. #2 after having only just read the 'nood' in the SW thread.
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 24, 2025 06:16 PM (/tzYP)
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Air America, an idea who's time has come! And, I'm sure we can beat Rush Limbaugh this time!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at March 24, 2025 06:16 PM (tT6L1)
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The Tea Party wasn't even a Republican-only thing.
There were a ton of pissed off Democrats at the start who also thought the money spigot was unsustainable.
It's just that only (a few) Republican political types pretended to be in favor of their message. And most of them were either lying, co-opted or just shut out of the Uniparty if they did get elected.
There were a ton of pissed off Democrats at the start who also thought the money spigot was unsustainable.
It's just that only (a few) Republican political types pretended to be in favor of their message. And most of them were either lying, co-opted or just shut out of the Uniparty if they did get elected.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 24, 2025 06:16 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at March 24, 2025 06:16 PM (PiwSw)
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As long as the battles stay intramural, I hope the Democrat Party Civil War goes on for a very long time.
Posted by: tankdemon at March 24, 2025 06:17 PM (GHAiA)
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..... so did you like the movie or not???
I'd much rather take care of my chickens and goats and cattle, but if they insist...
I'd much rather take care of my chickens and goats and cattle, but if they insist...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 24, 2025 06:17 PM (Vqx30)
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3 *raises eyebrow*
Rebelling Democrats?
Posted by: William Tecumseh Sherman at March 24, 2025 06:16 PM (l3YAf)
lol
Lloyd Lewis' biography of Sherman is very good.
Rebelling Democrats?
Posted by: William Tecumseh Sherman at March 24, 2025 06:16 PM (l3YAf)
lol
Lloyd Lewis' biography of Sherman is very good.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 24, 2025 06:17 PM (xcxpd)
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No Context Brits @NoContextBrits
The “why won’t this fucking drawer open” starter pack.
http://tiny.cc/z0he001
funny pic
The “why won’t this fucking drawer open” starter pack.
http://tiny.cc/z0he001
funny pic
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 24, 2025 06:18 PM (/tzYP)
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It would be a shame if people on the Right resurrected Operation Chaos and started egging both sides on.
Posted by: garrett at March 24, 2025 06:19 PM (GIkaP)
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 24, 2025 06:19 PM (e5NfL)
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The basic thing of the group we associate with "left" and "democrats " is rejecting any form of reality in favor of loudly extolling unreality. That's their base. The actual leadership was just there to steal for themselves.
Posted by: Azjaeger at March 24, 2025 06:19 PM (O0CuP)
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Afternoon.
Posted by: Robert at March 24, 2025 06:19 PM (4KOA9)
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Yep, democracy is not good for Democrats. Let's try unelected dictators in black robes....
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at March 24, 2025 06:20 PM (wBaIH)
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We Democratic men will lead our nation to a glorious future!
Posted by: Walz, Emhoff, Hogg, and Schumer at March 24, 2025 06:20 PM (a3Q+t)
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My favorite prescription is "Our Democracy" needs saved by "more terrorism."
That's a kind of elite level calculus that your puny little brain can't handle.
That's a kind of elite level calculus that your puny little brain can't handle.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 24, 2025 06:20 PM (MC8h6)
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we've been stocking up on guns for 40 years
Can we try wedgies and a good smack upside the head first?
Can we try wedgies and a good smack upside the head first?
Posted by: DaveA at March 24, 2025 06:20 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: garrett at March 24, 2025 06:21 PM (GIkaP)
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63%...that's all? Just 63% are in favor of deporting illegals? What's wrong with the other 37%?
I could see the number being...85%... and having a pretty fair and balanced society. The 85% understand safety and security and crime and the 15% understand mercy and second chances, and we all pretty much go on with our lives.
But the fact that 37% of our country is totes cool with illegals just being allowed to hang around is rather alarming.
I could see the number being...85%... and having a pretty fair and balanced society. The 85% understand safety and security and crime and the 15% understand mercy and second chances, and we all pretty much go on with our lives.
But the fact that 37% of our country is totes cool with illegals just being allowed to hang around is rather alarming.
Posted by: Crusader at March 24, 2025 06:21 PM (TN0g+)
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Although Compassionate Conservative is already wasted as a brand so we'll need a better one.
Posted by: DaveA at March 24, 2025 06:21 PM (FhXTo)
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But they just had a big rally in Dever its Trump they h8
Posted by: Skip at March 24, 2025 06:22 PM (fwDg9)
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we've been stocking up on guns for 40 years
Can we try wedgies and a good smack upside the head first?
Posted by: DaveA at March 24, 2025 06:20 PM (FhXTo)
Is that why javams bought a 7 foot iron skillet recently, as he said in yesterday's Food Thread?
Can we try wedgies and a good smack upside the head first?
Posted by: DaveA at March 24, 2025 06:20 PM (FhXTo)
Is that why javams bought a 7 foot iron skillet recently, as he said in yesterday's Food Thread?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 24, 2025 06:22 PM (VNX3d)
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Can we try wedgies and a good smack upside the head first?
Posted by: DaveA at March 24, 2025 06:20 PM (FhXTo)
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Make Atomic Wedgies Great Again!
Posted by: DaveA at March 24, 2025 06:20 PM (FhXTo)
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Make Atomic Wedgies Great Again!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 24, 2025 06:22 PM (cweKM)
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we've been stocking up on guns for 40 years
Can we try wedgies and a good smack upside the head first?
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We might as well--I think Covid revealed that all of that stock-piling of guns and ammo was largely just posturing.
Can we try wedgies and a good smack upside the head first?
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We might as well--I think Covid revealed that all of that stock-piling of guns and ammo was largely just posturing.
Posted by: Crusader at March 24, 2025 06:22 PM (TN0g+)
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Yep, burning Tesla cars and not buying Bud Light, totally the same thing, said no rational person ever.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at March 24, 2025 06:22 PM (tT6L1)
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unusual_whales @unusual_whales 8h
"Consumers are forgoing bags of Doritos and packs of cigarettes as convenience stores across the U.S. face sales declines," per FORTUNE.
Tone @tonyciccarone 8h Replying to @unusual_whales
Wonder why?
http://tiny.cc/81he001
floridanow1 @floridanow1 8h Replying to @unusual_whales
They don't make Doritos commercials like they use to....😂😂😂
http://tiny.cc/b1he001
28 seconds; very funny
"Consumers are forgoing bags of Doritos and packs of cigarettes as convenience stores across the U.S. face sales declines," per FORTUNE.
Tone @tonyciccarone 8h Replying to @unusual_whales
Wonder why?
http://tiny.cc/81he001
floridanow1 @floridanow1 8h Replying to @unusual_whales
They don't make Doritos commercials like they use to....😂😂😂
http://tiny.cc/b1he001
28 seconds; very funny
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 24, 2025 06:23 PM (/tzYP)
Posted by: RAMONES at March 24, 2025 06:23 PM (GIkaP)
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I don't care whether illegal aliens have a criminal record or not. They all should go home.
Posted by: huerfano at March 24, 2025 06:23 PM (n2swS)
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I'm not sure these young fuckwits are actually conservative rather than just rebelling against their commie parents.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at March 24, 2025 06:23 PM (Dm8we)
Posted by: Halfhand at March 24, 2025 06:24 PM (IbUt8)
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Can we try wedgies and a good smack upside the head first?
Posted by: DaveA at March 24, 2025 06:20 PM (FhXTo)
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Make Atomic Wedgies Great Again!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 24, 2025 06:22 PM (cweKM)
as long as it's not the dreaded Rear Admiral!
Posted by: DaveA at March 24, 2025 06:20 PM (FhXTo)
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Make Atomic Wedgies Great Again!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 24, 2025 06:22 PM (cweKM)
as long as it's not the dreaded Rear Admiral!
Posted by: Milhous van Houten on a school bus at March 24, 2025 06:24 PM (0aYVJ)
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Axios reports on Democrat Congressmen feeling scared by the leftwingers attending their town halls.
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They've created Frankenstein's Monster except she's transgender!
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They've created Frankenstein's Monster except she's transgender!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at March 24, 2025 06:24 PM (L/fGl)
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Tarred and feathered not even once
Posted by: Deplorable Minion at March 24, 2025 06:24 PM (QSrLX)
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Lloyd Lewis' biography of Sherman is very good.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 24, 2025 06:17 PM (xcxpd)
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I'll be doing the musical.
Lloyd Lewis' biography of Sherman is very good.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 24, 2025 06:17 PM (xcxpd)
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I'll be doing the musical.
Posted by: Andrew Lloyd Webber at March 24, 2025 06:24 PM (tT6L1)
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At some point, we're going to have to talk about this insane security leak in which Trump's cabinet held a "highly sensitive" discussion of bombing the Houthis on an unsecure platform and the editor of The Atlantic was inadvertently invited. Of course, he published everything. I won't even call it leaking. He was invited flat-out and he revealed all the content. It's like Hillary-bad.
At some point, we're going to have to talk about this insane security leak in which Trump's cabinet held a "highly sensitive" discussion of bombing the Houthis on an unsecure platform and the editor of The Atlantic was inadvertently invited. Of course, he published everything. I won't even call it leaking. He was invited flat-out and he revealed all the content. It's like Hillary-bad.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 24, 2025 06:24 PM (SwYcw)
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Some DU deep think on this:
On 3/13 I posted the party will cease to exists if they support cloture
While hyperbolic I think that statement is much closer to the truth than not. Schumer did not and does not know that he blew a hole in the party and in the momentum that had been building to confront Assmouth.
This was my point as well: It's not a defense of Schumer to say they were in a no win situation
Because Schumer is the one who managed to maneuver them into a no-win situation. He lost twice: first by getting into the situation, then by capitulating once there.
But to defend Schumer by saying it was a no win situation is bizarre and backward. He's the Senate Dem Leader: it's his goddamn fault we're in a no win situation even if that is the absolutely best case you can make for his capitulation. He should go EITHER WAY.
On 3/13 I posted the party will cease to exists if they support cloture
While hyperbolic I think that statement is much closer to the truth than not. Schumer did not and does not know that he blew a hole in the party and in the momentum that had been building to confront Assmouth.
This was my point as well: It's not a defense of Schumer to say they were in a no win situation
Because Schumer is the one who managed to maneuver them into a no-win situation. He lost twice: first by getting into the situation, then by capitulating once there.
But to defend Schumer by saying it was a no win situation is bizarre and backward. He's the Senate Dem Leader: it's his goddamn fault we're in a no win situation even if that is the absolutely best case you can make for his capitulation. He should go EITHER WAY.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 24, 2025 06:25 PM (a3Q+t)
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En Fuego!
Posted by: that guy that shouts en feugo at March 24, 2025 06:25 PM (jc0TO)
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I saw the poll where white women essentially love DEI and Zelensky and... thats it
Whereas normal people liked Trump and his policies
Although i figure if these AWFLs had actually met midget 5 foot 6 inches Zelensky in real life that number would also drop
Whereas normal people liked Trump and his policies
Although i figure if these AWFLs had actually met midget 5 foot 6 inches Zelensky in real life that number would also drop
Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxed Ranger - Uplifting The Wagshambas of Freedom at March 24, 2025 06:25 PM (HYKHz)
Posted by: m at March 24, 2025 06:26 PM (CQE5S)
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Can we try wedgies and a good smack upside the head first?
Posted by: DaveA at March 24, 2025 06:20 PM (FhXTo)
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Make Atomic Wedgies Great Again!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 24, 2025 06:22 PM (cweKM)
as long as it's not the dreaded Rear Admiral!
Posted by: Milhous van Houten on a school bus at March 24, 2025 06:24 PM
Gentlemen, this is AoSHQ. Does not the Style Guide (tm) recommend ballistic application of tire irons?
Posted by: DaveA at March 24, 2025 06:20 PM (FhXTo)
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Make Atomic Wedgies Great Again!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 24, 2025 06:22 PM (cweKM)
as long as it's not the dreaded Rear Admiral!
Posted by: Milhous van Houten on a school bus at March 24, 2025 06:24 PM
Gentlemen, this is AoSHQ. Does not the Style Guide (tm) recommend ballistic application of tire irons?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 24, 2025 06:26 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Miklos, who Knows Things at March 24, 2025 06:26 PM (zRebN)
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How bout Progressives suffer policy consequences that they advocate like snowflake babies: conceived human beings frozen until someone wants to carry them to term.
Posted by: Deplorable Minion at March 24, 2025 06:27 PM (QSrLX)
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Tea partiers? More like the vanguard of the proletariat.
Commie asshats.
Commie asshats.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 24, 2025 06:27 PM (W/lyH)
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Casten may have had his town hall interrupted, but all you see from propaganda ministers is the astroturfing at Republican meetings. Serious Dem on Dem violence is the only thing that will change the propaganda ministries narrative.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 24, 2025 06:27 PM (rsgUv)
Posted by: Amy Schumer at March 24, 2025 06:27 PM (GIkaP)
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The Democratic Party simply needs something to unite them. A bold idea.
Next up....I predict necrophilia...
Next up....I predict necrophilia...
Posted by: Stateless...69g% - mental state clawing up from 10% at March 24, 2025 06:27 PM (jvJvP)
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One can only hope Leftists kick themselves every day for not letting Trump win in 2020. It would have not ever gotten this far if they did.
Posted by: Skip at March 24, 2025 06:27 PM (fwDg9)
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This Democrat disillusionment would be encouraging if it was because of the insane shyte about men in girl's locker rooms and releasing child r apists if they happen to be illegal aliens in a Venezuelan gang.
But it looks like they want more AOC and Jasmine Crockett-like stuff. It's not just the "leaders"; it's the Democrat masses.
This Democrat disillusionment would be encouraging if it was because of the insane shyte about men in girl's locker rooms and releasing child r apists if they happen to be illegal aliens in a Venezuelan gang.
But it looks like they want more AOC and Jasmine Crockett-like stuff. It's not just the "leaders"; it's the Democrat masses.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 24, 2025 06:27 PM (SwYcw)
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Make Atomic Wedgies Great Again!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 24, 2025 06:22 PM (cweKM)
The “atomic wedgie” seems like something Edward Teller would have made a serious attempt at developing.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 24, 2025 06:22 PM (cweKM)
The “atomic wedgie” seems like something Edward Teller would have made a serious attempt at developing.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 24, 2025 06:28 PM (l3YAf)
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63%...that's all? Just 63% are in favor of deporting illegals? What's wrong with the other 37%?
I could see the number being...85%... and having a pretty fair and balanced society. The 85% understand safety and security and crime and the 15% understand mercy and second chances, and we all pretty much go on with our lives.
But the fact that 37% of our country is totes cool with illegals just being allowed to hang around is rather alarming.
Posted by: Crusader at March 24, 2025 06:21 PM (TN0g+)
What percentage of the population is either illegal, in a sexual relationship with an illegal, employed by an illegal, employing an illegal, or buying drugs from an illegal?
I'd guess roughly 37%.
I could see the number being...85%... and having a pretty fair and balanced society. The 85% understand safety and security and crime and the 15% understand mercy and second chances, and we all pretty much go on with our lives.
But the fact that 37% of our country is totes cool with illegals just being allowed to hang around is rather alarming.
Posted by: Crusader at March 24, 2025 06:21 PM (TN0g+)
What percentage of the population is either illegal, in a sexual relationship with an illegal, employed by an illegal, employing an illegal, or buying drugs from an illegal?
I'd guess roughly 37%.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 24, 2025 06:28 PM (ExV1e)
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The Democratic Party simply needs something to unite them. A bold idea.
Next up....I predict necrophilia...
Posted by: Stateless...69g% - mental state clawing up from 10% at March 24, 2025 06:27 PM (jvJvP)
Handcarts with people yelling "Bring Out Your Dead!"?
Next up....I predict necrophilia...
Posted by: Stateless...69g% - mental state clawing up from 10% at March 24, 2025 06:27 PM (jvJvP)
Handcarts with people yelling "Bring Out Your Dead!"?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 24, 2025 06:28 PM (VNX3d)
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- "Do it. We're itching for it."
Not this guy. Last thing I ever want to have to do is take another human life.
Not this guy. Last thing I ever want to have to do is take another human life.
Posted by: TeeJ at March 24, 2025 06:28 PM (L8+qQ)
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SNL "Quien Es Mas Macho?" sketch (02/17/79), hosted by Ricky Nelson with Bill Murray and Gilda Radner
https://is.gd/Ms4lJM
https://is.gd/Ms4lJM
Posted by: ShainS -- The Dissolution of The Autopen Empire at March 24, 2025 06:28 PM (2bbPt)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 24, 2025 06:28 PM (jc0TO)
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The garter snakes are coming out of their dens again, and the new cat has just caught his second one of the season.
This one was about 18" long.
This one was about 18" long.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 24, 2025 06:30 PM (D7oie)
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Lloyd Lewis' biography of Sherman is very good.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 24, 2025 06:17 PM (xcxpd)
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I'll be doing the musical.
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What the world really needs is a musical version of "Hamlet"....perhaps borrowing songs from "Carmen"?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 24, 2025 06:17 PM (xcxpd)
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I'll be doing the musical.
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What the world really needs is a musical version of "Hamlet"....perhaps borrowing songs from "Carmen"?
Posted by: Crusader at March 24, 2025 06:30 PM (TN0g+)
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37% of our country is totes cool with illegals just being allowed to hang around is rather alarming.
Posted by: Crusader
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Maybe there's a "No opinion" percentage in there, although that's also pretty dismal.
37% of our country is totes cool with illegals just being allowed to hang around is rather alarming.
Posted by: Crusader
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Maybe there's a "No opinion" percentage in there, although that's also pretty dismal.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 24, 2025 06:30 PM (SwYcw)
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Time to loudly condemn trans and every vile perversion.
Condemn illegals loudly proudly and throw them out. Arrest people shielding and providing for them and give maximum sentences. Severe treatment of American government criminals is key. Nothing will stop until high costs are paid. Arrest Boasbergs kid
Condemn illegals loudly proudly and throw them out. Arrest people shielding and providing for them and give maximum sentences. Severe treatment of American government criminals is key. Nothing will stop until high costs are paid. Arrest Boasbergs kid
Posted by: Long night...lifted at March 24, 2025 06:30 PM (2NXcZ)
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My eeyorism is well documented here, but I really am afraid that the vapid talking points that the left has been peddling, specifically about the tariffs - is going to cause a swing back to the left. They may be raving lunatics but they have the media and pop culture running cover for them.
If the tariffs go through, and prices go up some more, which they inevitably will, I think there's going to be a sizeable chunk of support lost for Trump.
Albeit now that eggs are back to normal and gas up here in the NE is below $3/gallon for the first time in a while, perhaps my fear is overblown.
If the tariffs go through, and prices go up some more, which they inevitably will, I think there's going to be a sizeable chunk of support lost for Trump.
Albeit now that eggs are back to normal and gas up here in the NE is below $3/gallon for the first time in a while, perhaps my fear is overblown.
Posted by: Defenestratus at March 24, 2025 06:30 PM (WYStd)
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Yeah, the Dems don't want a Tea Party, they want to win.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 24, 2025 06:30 PM (D7oie)
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When the true believing Red Guard is revolting, you got trouble in River City
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 24, 2025 06:30 PM (T/xPf)
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Breaking911 @Breaking911 4h [very pro PDT]
BREAKING: White House confirms Trump national security team accidentally texted plans for Yemen attacks to The Atlantic’s editor in chief
Breaking911 @Breaking911 3h
Totally unacceptable.
Croaky Caiman 🐊 @InstaGator2024 3h
Signal and the Fury: How the Trump Administration Sent Me Its War Plans
The U.S. bombed Yemen. The war cabinet planned it in a Signal group chat. A liberal journalist was accidentally added.
This is not satire. It’s how American power is being exercised now.
And it tells you everything about the state of modern Foreign Policy discipline.
The Trump administration coordinated a bombing campaign over Signal.
Yes—that Signal.
JD Vance asked the right question, then immediately backed down.
Foreign policy, MAGA-style: a group chat with bad instincts and worse discipline.
Read here:
http://tiny.cc/k1he001
[partially available w/o a substack subscription]
BREAKING: White House confirms Trump national security team accidentally texted plans for Yemen attacks to The Atlantic’s editor in chief
Breaking911 @Breaking911 3h
Totally unacceptable.
Croaky Caiman 🐊 @InstaGator2024 3h
Signal and the Fury: How the Trump Administration Sent Me Its War Plans
The U.S. bombed Yemen. The war cabinet planned it in a Signal group chat. A liberal journalist was accidentally added.
This is not satire. It’s how American power is being exercised now.
And it tells you everything about the state of modern Foreign Policy discipline.
The Trump administration coordinated a bombing campaign over Signal.
Yes—that Signal.
JD Vance asked the right question, then immediately backed down.
Foreign policy, MAGA-style: a group chat with bad instincts and worse discipline.
Read here:
http://tiny.cc/k1he001
[partially available w/o a substack subscription]
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 24, 2025 06:31 PM (/tzYP)
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How bout Progressives suffer policy consequences that they advocate like being dismembered in a surgical abortion.
Posted by: Deplorable Minion at March 24, 2025 06:31 PM (QSrLX)
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This was my point as well: It's not a defense of Schumer to say they were in a no win situation
Because Schumer is the one who managed to maneuver them into a no-win situation. He lost twice: first by getting into the situation, then by capitulating once there.
But to defend Schumer by saying it was a no win situation is bizarre and backward. He's the Senate Dem Leader: it's his goddamn fault we're in a no win situation even if that is the absolutely best case you can make for his capitulation. He should go EITHER WAY.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 24, 2025 06:25 PM (a3Q+t)
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The DUmmies are truly delusional. Schumer had no cards to play. He just watched the GOP push through a ton of controversial nominees without needing a single vote from Democrats. Schumer also watched President Trump start ripping apart government and realized the process would only accelerate with a shutdown. Schumers only real mistake was opening his mouth before his brain had a chance to filter anything.
Because Schumer is the one who managed to maneuver them into a no-win situation. He lost twice: first by getting into the situation, then by capitulating once there.
But to defend Schumer by saying it was a no win situation is bizarre and backward. He's the Senate Dem Leader: it's his goddamn fault we're in a no win situation even if that is the absolutely best case you can make for his capitulation. He should go EITHER WAY.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 24, 2025 06:25 PM (a3Q+t)
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The DUmmies are truly delusional. Schumer had no cards to play. He just watched the GOP push through a ton of controversial nominees without needing a single vote from Democrats. Schumer also watched President Trump start ripping apart government and realized the process would only accelerate with a shutdown. Schumers only real mistake was opening his mouth before his brain had a chance to filter anything.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at March 24, 2025 06:31 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 24, 2025 06:31 PM (T/xPf)
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The left imposes their tyranny with random violence at multiple levels.
The right responds to such lawbreakers with "violence".
Violence as needed to stop the criminals, who are violent offenders.
These are not the same usages of "violence".
The right responds to such lawbreakers with "violence".
Violence as needed to stop the criminals, who are violent offenders.
These are not the same usages of "violence".
Posted by: illiniwek at March 24, 2025 06:31 PM (Cus5s)
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Note:
You can make your own Movie Theater Quality popcorn by using coconut oil and Flavacol.
Posted by: Miklos, who Knows Things at March 24, 2025 06:26 PM (zRebN)
I think I'd prefer French fries fried in beef tallow. I should see if there's a branch of potato chips made that way....
You can make your own Movie Theater Quality popcorn by using coconut oil and Flavacol.
Posted by: Miklos, who Knows Things at March 24, 2025 06:26 PM (zRebN)
I think I'd prefer French fries fried in beef tallow. I should see if there's a branch of potato chips made that way....
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 24, 2025 06:31 PM (VNX3d)
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the numbers suggest that the fury is at least partly fueled by the Democratic base's dissatisfaction with congressional leadership's relatively conciliatory approach to Trump this time around, and their inability to stop him.
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Exactly what do they want to stop? I bet half the Dems don't even know what he's doing, except "being racist" and "saying racist things" and "destroying our democracy by -- ummm, well AOC says he is."
the numbers suggest that the fury is at least partly fueled by the Democratic base's dissatisfaction with congressional leadership's relatively conciliatory approach to Trump this time around, and their inability to stop him.
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Exactly what do they want to stop? I bet half the Dems don't even know what he's doing, except "being racist" and "saying racist things" and "destroying our democracy by -- ummm, well AOC says he is."
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 24, 2025 06:32 PM (SwYcw)
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Do it. We're itching for it. Do you think we've been stocking up on guns for 40 years because we're too afraid to fight for ourselves?
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Well, yes, they actually think we buy guns because we are cowards and in the dark times, the black-pillers were pretty outspoken about how we'll all hand over our firearms upon request.
That being said, I think the example of the Spanish Civil War is important, because a lot of the same ideologies and factors are in play today. You had a de-Christianizing society, an extremely polarized electorate and right that tried to play by the rules and a left that ignored them.
Read my book if you want to know more.
Anyhow, there are two profound differences between then and now. The first is the American Republic has proved far more stable, and resilient than the Second Spanish one. Trump's election despite every effort of the Deep State had demonstrated this.
The second key difference is that the Anarchists in Spain were actually very brave, determined fighters. The wokes in the US are uniformly physical cowards.
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Well, yes, they actually think we buy guns because we are cowards and in the dark times, the black-pillers were pretty outspoken about how we'll all hand over our firearms upon request.
That being said, I think the example of the Spanish Civil War is important, because a lot of the same ideologies and factors are in play today. You had a de-Christianizing society, an extremely polarized electorate and right that tried to play by the rules and a left that ignored them.
Read my book if you want to know more.
Anyhow, there are two profound differences between then and now. The first is the American Republic has proved far more stable, and resilient than the Second Spanish one. Trump's election despite every effort of the Deep State had demonstrated this.
The second key difference is that the Anarchists in Spain were actually very brave, determined fighters. The wokes in the US are uniformly physical cowards.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 24, 2025 06:32 PM (ZOv7s)
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66 Breaking911 @Breaking911 4h [very pro PDT]
BREAKING: White House confirms Trump national security team accidentally texted plans for Yemen attacks to The Atlantic’s editor in chief
Yikes..I thought it was a leaker
BREAKING: White House confirms Trump national security team accidentally texted plans for Yemen attacks to The Atlantic’s editor in chief
Yikes..I thought it was a leaker
Posted by: It's me donna at March 24, 2025 06:32 PM (VE6XX)
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The footsoldiers firebombing tesla dealerships and whatnot need face fulls of lead traveling at high speed.
End of story.
End of story.
Posted by: GMan at March 24, 2025 06:32 PM (DFJYi)
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Lol - the democrat pols afraid all the scary clowns they created are gonna start showing up at THEIR events and scaring the crap out of THEM. Start the popcorn
Posted by: Gary R at March 24, 2025 06:32 PM (AN+ve)
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Getting dicier in the collar counties around Philadelphia. We've got some doozies, i.e.,
>Beacon Bucks County, News
Local Protesters Raise Public Awareness About Elon Musk and DOGE’s Dangerous Slash and Burn Demolition of the Federal Government
The event, organized by local Indivisible groups, was part of a nationwide effort dubbed "Tesla Takedown." by Lela Casey, February 25, 2025
A month ago, but the embedded TikTok video is worth watching, "A Moms for Liberty aggressively interrupted a protest and harassed kids and elderly people. Moms for Liberty are a hate group." (I don't know how she didn't rip those damn signs out of their hands and....)
>And the Tesla protests are expanding. Among many, an Irish News article of March 22, 2025, 'Actions of Musk and Trump having destabilising effect far beyond US borders - The Irish New View' Attacks on Tesla property to be condemned
It about "the disgraceful attacks on up to 20 cars at a Tesla dealership in Belfast..."
Angry, old, uppity White folks kick it off again.
>Beacon Bucks County, News
Local Protesters Raise Public Awareness About Elon Musk and DOGE’s Dangerous Slash and Burn Demolition of the Federal Government
The event, organized by local Indivisible groups, was part of a nationwide effort dubbed "Tesla Takedown." by Lela Casey, February 25, 2025
A month ago, but the embedded TikTok video is worth watching, "A Moms for Liberty aggressively interrupted a protest and harassed kids and elderly people. Moms for Liberty are a hate group." (I don't know how she didn't rip those damn signs out of their hands and....)
>And the Tesla protests are expanding. Among many, an Irish News article of March 22, 2025, 'Actions of Musk and Trump having destabilising effect far beyond US borders - The Irish New View' Attacks on Tesla property to be condemned
It about "the disgraceful attacks on up to 20 cars at a Tesla dealership in Belfast..."
Angry, old, uppity White folks kick it off again.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at March 24, 2025 06:33 PM (NFX2v)
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If the blue cities need to burn for these Dems to make themselves heard, then I support their right to free speech. But can we maybe right quick re-allocate the DoE budget to build walls around them that, ummm.... keep the conservative out?
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at March 24, 2025 06:33 PM (kOluj)
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>>Posted by: Anna Puma at March 24, 2025 06:31 PM (T/xPf)
I am embarrassed to admit that I never miss a Squchan upload on youtube.
That Hungarian SpaceCat is hysterical.
I am embarrassed to admit that I never miss a Squchan upload on youtube.
That Hungarian SpaceCat is hysterical.
Posted by: Amy Schumer at March 24, 2025 06:33 PM (GIkaP)
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The garter snakes are coming out of their dens again, and the new cat has just caught his second one of the season.
We have a box turtle that comes to the front porch for treats. He made his first appearance of the year this morning. He got some potato and a strawberry. He ate the strawberry but rejected the potato slice. I guess I should have microwaved it for him.
We have a box turtle that comes to the front porch for treats. He made his first appearance of the year this morning. He got some potato and a strawberry. He ate the strawberry but rejected the potato slice. I guess I should have microwaved it for him.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 24, 2025 06:33 PM (jc0TO)
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May I present to you, the only possible saviors of the Democratic Party, now being successfully trained in proper governance:
For President: RFK Jr.
For Vice-President: Tulsi Gabbard
For President: RFK Jr.
For Vice-President: Tulsi Gabbard
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at March 24, 2025 06:33 PM (DsA2n)
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74. It was
Posted by: Long night...lifted at March 24, 2025 06:33 PM (2NXcZ)
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The Tea (Taxed Enough Already) Party was a populist movement.
As is MAGA (Make America Great Again)
Name a populist position the Democrat Party can take that won't cause the base to explode in greater anger than the vote for the CR?
How can they, that's like saying they embrace MAGA now.
The pure hatred of J6 was explicitly and implicitly due to it being the culmination of a populist movement.
They spent the 4 years of Biden saying over and over:
"Populism = white supremacy"
The working class, the broad base of constituents that kept the Democrats in power for over 150 years was tossed overboard with disgust, starting with Obama, but the last heave was for Kamala.
And Trump has claimed it proudly.
How are the ever going to get that back?
As is MAGA (Make America Great Again)
Name a populist position the Democrat Party can take that won't cause the base to explode in greater anger than the vote for the CR?
How can they, that's like saying they embrace MAGA now.
The pure hatred of J6 was explicitly and implicitly due to it being the culmination of a populist movement.
They spent the 4 years of Biden saying over and over:
"Populism = white supremacy"
The working class, the broad base of constituents that kept the Democrats in power for over 150 years was tossed overboard with disgust, starting with Obama, but the last heave was for Kamala.
And Trump has claimed it proudly.
How are the ever going to get that back?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 24, 2025 06:33 PM (MC8h6)
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>>Although Compassionate Conservative is already wasted as a brand so we'll need a better one.
How about Pissed Off Go Fuck Yourself Commie Conservative?
How about Pissed Off Go Fuck Yourself Commie Conservative?
Posted by: JackStraw at March 24, 2025 06:33 PM (LkLld)
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Good friend's wife is in need of a rather sudden biopsy. Would like to enlist the prayers of the amazing horde if you can spare one for her, thanks.
Posted by: ... at March 24, 2025 06:33 PM (E0p3T)
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Steve Scalise nearly killed.
Two assassination attempts on Donald Trump's life.
Teslas getting firebombed as we speak.
Democrats are too nice
Steve Scalise nearly killed.
Two assassination attempts on Donald Trump's life.
Teslas getting firebombed as we speak.
Democrats are too nice
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 24, 2025 06:33 PM (63Dwl)
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Latest Leftist scum talking point?
"How dare President Trump ban people from buying soda using SNAP!!!" RRREEEE!!!!
"How dare President Trump ban people from buying soda using SNAP!!!" RRREEEE!!!!
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 24, 2025 06:33 PM (T/xPf)
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There's more than a few Democrat congresspeople pretending to be normies (especially mine) who are about to have to stand up and defend deprived crazy.
God I hope they primary the bastards for not being Marxist enough.
There's more than a few Democrat congresspeople pretending to be normies (especially mine) who are about to have to stand up and defend deprived crazy.
God I hope they primary the bastards for not being Marxist enough.
Posted by: Auspex at March 24, 2025 06:33 PM (j4U/Z)
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At some point, we're going to have to talk about this insane security leak in which Trump's cabinet held a "highly sensitive" discussion of bombing the Houthis on an unsecure platform and the editor of The Atlantic was inadvertently invited. Of course, he published everything. I won't even call it leaking. He was invited flat-out and he revealed all the content. It's like Hillary-bad.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 24, 2025 06:24 PM (SwYcw)
Par for the course in a Trump administration. There will inevitably be a certain amount of dick-self-stomping amidst the chaos.
It's infuriating, because after the past 4 yeas of blatant incompetence, we wanted the adults back in charge who took this kind of sh*t seriously.
At some point, we're going to have to talk about this insane security leak in which Trump's cabinet held a "highly sensitive" discussion of bombing the Houthis on an unsecure platform and the editor of The Atlantic was inadvertently invited. Of course, he published everything. I won't even call it leaking. He was invited flat-out and he revealed all the content. It's like Hillary-bad.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 24, 2025 06:24 PM (SwYcw)
Par for the course in a Trump administration. There will inevitably be a certain amount of dick-self-stomping amidst the chaos.
It's infuriating, because after the past 4 yeas of blatant incompetence, we wanted the adults back in charge who took this kind of sh*t seriously.
Posted by: Defenestratus at March 24, 2025 06:34 PM (WYStd)
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Jasmine Crockett has been sounding like a hood rat.
Posted by: m at March 24, 2025 06:34 PM (CQE5S)
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@63 the media and leftist pop culture is losing their grip however. The propaganda ministries have been outflanked by the internet , X and blogs . Pretty much everyone realizes celebs by and large are vacuous dolts and pay little attention to them. Look at the younger generations who are trending conservative. The still is a vast amount of leftist sheep, but they're dying
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 24, 2025 06:34 PM (rsgUv)
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Schumers only real mistake was opening his mouth before his brain had a chance to filter anything.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at March 24, 2025 06:31 PM
Well, that and demonstrating his man-of-the-peopleness by putting cheese on a raw hamburger patty while all of the grill's burners were turned off.
As a New Yorker, he should have sous-vided that sh*t.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at March 24, 2025 06:31 PM
Well, that and demonstrating his man-of-the-peopleness by putting cheese on a raw hamburger patty while all of the grill's burners were turned off.
As a New Yorker, he should have sous-vided that sh*t.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 24, 2025 06:34 PM (a3Q+t)
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-- Axios reports on Democrat Congressmen feeling scared by the leftwingers attending their town halls.
But they keep telling us that all threats come from the right.
But they keep telling us that all threats come from the right.
Posted by: Emmie at March 24, 2025 06:34 PM (Sf2cq)
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> But karma gets her in the end; just wait for it in the video
I'll bet that registered on local seismographs.
> They don't make Doritos commercials like they use to..
Heh...
Seriously, Frito-Lay should bring back the Frito Bandito.
Like Speedy Gonzales, the character was actually liked by Latinos. As always, it's white communists who get offended on behalf of other people.
I'll bet that registered on local seismographs.
> They don't make Doritos commercials like they use to..
Heh...
Seriously, Frito-Lay should bring back the Frito Bandito.
Like Speedy Gonzales, the character was actually liked by Latinos. As always, it's white communists who get offended on behalf of other people.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 24, 2025 06:35 PM (W5ArC)
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sounds like The Bolsheviks v. the Mensheviks to me.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at March 24, 2025 06:35 PM (Fqpao)
Posted by: Crusader at March 24, 2025 06:35 PM (TN0g+)
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Posted by: Walz, Emhoff, Hogg, and Schumer at March 24, 2025 06:20 PM
First thing you pussies need to do is...
Find a man.
There aren't any in your party. They're all just soy soaked, almost women. No one believes any of you have now or ever did have and measurable amount of testosterone. None. Zip, zilch, nada. You pathetic, insignificant losers have your balls stored in some broad's purse. If you got them back, you wouldn't know what to do with them. Real men have balls. They know exactly how to use those whether for fighting or fucking, they can handle it. You freaks couldn't fight to save your latte and what little you understand about fucking is why women avoid you.
Go away, and take your precious soy latte with you.
First thing you pussies need to do is...
Find a man.
There aren't any in your party. They're all just soy soaked, almost women. No one believes any of you have now or ever did have and measurable amount of testosterone. None. Zip, zilch, nada. You pathetic, insignificant losers have your balls stored in some broad's purse. If you got them back, you wouldn't know what to do with them. Real men have balls. They know exactly how to use those whether for fighting or fucking, they can handle it. You freaks couldn't fight to save your latte and what little you understand about fucking is why women avoid you.
Go away, and take your precious soy latte with you.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at March 24, 2025 06:35 PM (4XwPj)
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>>>for the first time in the poll's history, congressional Democrats are now underwater with their own voters in approval ratings.
Good. Maybe they will go through a tea party style revelation about how corrupt and fucked up the entire political system is, and maybe we can find common ground to go after the Deep State.
Maybe.
Or maybe they'll descend in to lunacy with their box wine and 17 cats. Hard to say.
Good. Maybe they will go through a tea party style revelation about how corrupt and fucked up the entire political system is, and maybe we can find common ground to go after the Deep State.
Maybe.
Or maybe they'll descend in to lunacy with their box wine and 17 cats. Hard to say.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 24, 2025 06:35 PM (uCjyK)
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Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 24, 2025 06:31 PM (/tzYP)
Doesn't Trump know that war plans are best published through the NY Times?
Doesn't Trump know that war plans are best published through the NY Times?
Posted by: ... at March 24, 2025 06:35 PM (E0p3T)
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Foreign policy, MAGA-style: a group chat with bad instincts and worse discipline.
Read here:
http://tiny.cc/k1he001
[partially available w/o a substack subscription]
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 24, 2025 06:31 PM (/tzYP)
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Presumed fake news until proven otherwise.
Read here:
http://tiny.cc/k1he001
[partially available w/o a substack subscription]
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 24, 2025 06:31 PM (/tzYP)
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Presumed fake news until proven otherwise.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 24, 2025 06:35 PM (ZOv7s)
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May I present to you, the only possible saviors of the Democratic Party, now being successfully trained in proper governance:
For President: RFK Jr.
For Vice-President: Tulsi Gabbard
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks
_________
They should have ditched Joe and thrown everything behind RFK Jr. They might have won.
For President: RFK Jr.
For Vice-President: Tulsi Gabbard
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks
_________
They should have ditched Joe and thrown everything behind RFK Jr. They might have won.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at March 24, 2025 06:35 PM (Dm8we)
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> Yeah, the Dems don't want a Tea Party, they want to win.
Their loony base doesn't just want to win. They want to destroy us. They've convinced themselves we're an existential threat to them. That's why they call us NAZIs even though they can't point to any actual policies of ours that are NAZI like. That's why Elon's gestures were so overblown by their side. They think we're this close to putting them on trains to death camps and any tiny event like that could be our "go" signal.
Their loony base doesn't just want to win. They want to destroy us. They've convinced themselves we're an existential threat to them. That's why they call us NAZIs even though they can't point to any actual policies of ours that are NAZI like. That's why Elon's gestures were so overblown by their side. They think we're this close to putting them on trains to death camps and any tiny event like that could be our "go" signal.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 24, 2025 06:36 PM (lIio7)
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I think I'd prefer French fries fried in beef tallow. I should see if there's a branch of potato chips made that way....
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
The local supermarket (Food Lion) has begun selling beef tallow for the first time. I have stocked up.
Preference cascade?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
The local supermarket (Food Lion) has begun selling beef tallow for the first time. I have stocked up.
Preference cascade?
Posted by: Miklos, approving at March 24, 2025 06:36 PM (zRebN)
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Like Speedy Gonzales, the character was actually liked by Latinos. As always, it's white communists who get offended on behalf of other people.
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What's not to like? He's the fastest mouse in all Me-he-co!
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What's not to like? He's the fastest mouse in all Me-he-co!
Posted by: Crusader at March 24, 2025 06:36 PM (TN0g+)
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There isn't going to be any large scale violence. The vandalism against Tesla is just that. All the pantyfa actors are well known.
Posted by: Ben Had at March 24, 2025 06:36 PM (j6NlC)
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BREAKING: White House confirms Trump national security team accidentally texted plans for Yemen attacks to The Atlantic’s editor in chief
Jessica Tarlov was excited about that.
BREAKING: White House confirms Trump national security team accidentally texted plans for Yemen attacks to The Atlantic’s editor in chief
Jessica Tarlov was excited about that.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 24, 2025 06:36 PM (63Dwl)
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Yikes..I thought it was a leaker
Posted by: It's me donna at March 24, 2025 06:32 PM
They're the worst.
Posted by: It's me donna at March 24, 2025 06:32 PM
They're the worst.
Posted by: Dr. Jill at March 24, 2025 06:36 PM (a3Q+t)
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I keep forgetting that love means never having to say you're sorry.
Posted by: Deplorable Minion at March 24, 2025 06:37 PM (QSrLX)
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Signal isn’t safe to use, even with accidentally including a journalist. Somebody needs a whack with the dummy stick.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 24, 2025 06:37 PM (l3YAf)
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>>First thing you pussies need to do is...
>>Find a man.
I hear Beto O'rourke has been tanning his anus and resting up...
>>Find a man.
I hear Beto O'rourke has been tanning his anus and resting up...
Posted by: garrett at March 24, 2025 06:37 PM (GIkaP)
Posted by: Patches O'Houlihan at March 24, 2025 06:37 PM (/yNmj)
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63%...that's all? Just 63% are in favor of deporting illegals? What's wrong with the other 37%?
I could see the number being...85%... and having a pretty fair and balanced society. The 85% understand safety and security and crime and the 15% understand mercy and second chances, and we all pretty much go on with our lives.
But the fact that 37% of our country is totes cool with illegals just being allowed to hang around is rather alarming.
Posted by: Crusader at March 24, 2025 06:21 PM (TN0g+)
Almost certainly they did one of those 4 choices like
Hell Yes: 63
Yes 22
Not Sure/Leave Me Alone 10
No 5
and then pick the categories they like to minimize/boost the answer they want.
Never
I could see the number being...85%... and having a pretty fair and balanced society. The 85% understand safety and security and crime and the 15% understand mercy and second chances, and we all pretty much go on with our lives.
But the fact that 37% of our country is totes cool with illegals just being allowed to hang around is rather alarming.
Posted by: Crusader at March 24, 2025 06:21 PM (TN0g+)
Almost certainly they did one of those 4 choices like
Hell Yes: 63
Yes 22
Not Sure/Leave Me Alone 10
No 5
and then pick the categories they like to minimize/boost the answer they want.
Never
Posted by: Oldcat at March 24, 2025 06:37 PM (n7h9X)
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They think we're this close to putting them on trains to death camps
Honestly, with how they're behaving...
Honestly, with how they're behaving...
Posted by: GMan at March 24, 2025 06:37 PM (DFJYi)
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79 >>Posted by: Anna Puma at March 24, 2025 06:31 PM (T/xPf)
If you go to grok dot com, you can have it generate images.
I thought of you.
If you go to grok dot com, you can have it generate images.
I thought of you.
Posted by: Stateless...69g% - mental state clawing up from 10% at March 24, 2025 06:37 PM (jvJvP)
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Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 24, 2025 06:31 PM (/tzYP)
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That's the story all right. It all seems inexcusable, loaded with fireable, negligent-arising-to-criminal offenses.
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 24, 2025 06:31 PM (/tzYP)
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That's the story all right. It all seems inexcusable, loaded with fireable, negligent-arising-to-criminal offenses.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 24, 2025 06:37 PM (SwYcw)
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This going to get ugly. We've gone beyond Priya Jayapal territory and are heading into the hellscape of Helen Thomas.
Posted by: pookysgirl does not approve of this route at March 24, 2025 06:37 PM (Wt5PA)
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I am for Civil War II. We can't make peace with people who are mentally ill.
Posted by: Pamazon at March 24, 2025 06:37 PM (b5MGU)
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That dumb bint must have smacked her face good.
I like the guy tat ran up an snapped the picture, hahah
I like the guy tat ran up an snapped the picture, hahah
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 24, 2025 06:37 PM (NtVYv)
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The down side about leaking on Trump is the no one believes it until shit bliws up.
Posted by: Deplorable Minion at March 24, 2025 06:38 PM (QSrLX)
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I'm amused at the idea of the Trump Administration accidentally send bombing plans to some journalist.
Was it really an accident? Or, did the administration do it, knowing full well the Atlantic is so anti-American they'd immediately publish, thereby letting our enemies know our plans?
Also, is there even a chance it was done so the people who were to be bombed would sit up and think, "wait a minutes, America was going to do what?"
Was it really an accident? Or, did the administration do it, knowing full well the Atlantic is so anti-American they'd immediately publish, thereby letting our enemies know our plans?
Also, is there even a chance it was done so the people who were to be bombed would sit up and think, "wait a minutes, America was going to do what?"
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at March 24, 2025 06:38 PM (tT6L1)
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sounds like The Bolsheviks v. the Mensheviks to me.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at March 24, 2025 06:35 PM (Fqpao)
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Remember, the Popular Front in Spain fought its own civil war while trying to wage a civil war. Look up the May Days or read Orwell's Homage to Catalonia.
Same splits are still happening now. Note that Anarchists are not against all government, they are socialists who want government replaced by cartels and collectives, but do not actually favor individual liberty.
Libertarian communists. Yep, it's a thing.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at March 24, 2025 06:35 PM (Fqpao)
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Remember, the Popular Front in Spain fought its own civil war while trying to wage a civil war. Look up the May Days or read Orwell's Homage to Catalonia.
Same splits are still happening now. Note that Anarchists are not against all government, they are socialists who want government replaced by cartels and collectives, but do not actually favor individual liberty.
Libertarian communists. Yep, it's a thing.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 24, 2025 06:38 PM (ZOv7s)
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Meh...it's a tantrum by self-important narcissists who didn't get their way. They can't debate their positions. They run away from substantive conversation. Their base frequently has diametrically opposed views on the same issue.
And, most importantly, the only way to promote and institute their agenda is dishonestly, and illegally.
And, most importantly, the only way to promote and institute their agenda is dishonestly, and illegally.
Posted by: Orson at March 24, 2025 06:38 PM (dIske)
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Lol - the democrat pols afraid all the scary clowns they created are gonna start showing up at THEIR events and scaring the crap out of THEM. Start the popcorn
Posted by: Gary R at March 24, 2025 06:32 PM
Six drops of the essence of terror, five drops of sinister sauce..
Posted by: Gary R at March 24, 2025 06:32 PM
Six drops of the essence of terror, five drops of sinister sauce..
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 24, 2025 06:38 PM (jc0TO)
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> They think we're this close to putting them on trains to death camps
And yet, weirdly, every time that happens it's always some type of socialist.
Then again, these are the same people who think men can have imaginary vaginas and that "anarchists" wear uniforms.
And yet, weirdly, every time that happens it's always some type of socialist.
Then again, these are the same people who think men can have imaginary vaginas and that "anarchists" wear uniforms.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 24, 2025 06:39 PM (W5ArC)
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The wokes in the US are uniformly physical cowards.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 24, 2025 06:32 PM (ZOv7s)
This is categorically false - and I've been trying to warn people about this nonsense popular underestimation of the left's capacity for violence. Yes the twinks we see at the Antifa rallies are mostly physically pathetic.
These are their meat shields. Their cannon fodder. Their human chaff.
They do have some sluggers that are training and keeping quiet about it. I serve on the membership committee of my local gun club and we get some of the James Brown members rolling in every once in a while. At some point in the interview process they give away the game by using the vocabulary of the Communist/Marxists and I'm telling you what - I'm 6'6" 260lbs and I wouldn't want to tangle with some of these guys. Most of them are ex-military and f*cking scary. Legit bad hombres.
Don't fall for the lie that the twerps you see in Steve Inman videos are who are going to be doing the fighting if the lead starts to fly....
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 24, 2025 06:32 PM (ZOv7s)
This is categorically false - and I've been trying to warn people about this nonsense popular underestimation of the left's capacity for violence. Yes the twinks we see at the Antifa rallies are mostly physically pathetic.
These are their meat shields. Their cannon fodder. Their human chaff.
They do have some sluggers that are training and keeping quiet about it. I serve on the membership committee of my local gun club and we get some of the James Brown members rolling in every once in a while. At some point in the interview process they give away the game by using the vocabulary of the Communist/Marxists and I'm telling you what - I'm 6'6" 260lbs and I wouldn't want to tangle with some of these guys. Most of them are ex-military and f*cking scary. Legit bad hombres.
Don't fall for the lie that the twerps you see in Steve Inman videos are who are going to be doing the fighting if the lead starts to fly....
Posted by: Defenestratus at March 24, 2025 06:39 PM (WYStd)
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Hey Ace, something changed my email address. Weird. I sent you 1000$ bucks and didn't get a thank you. Please tell the morning guy who keeps asking for hitting the tip jar.
Posted by: Pamazon at March 24, 2025 06:39 PM (b5MGU)
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Presumed fake news until proven otherwise.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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I'd like to think so, but The Atlantic editor posted screenshots. Sure they can be faked, but I don't think even The Atlantic would be that risky.
Presumed fake news until proven otherwise.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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I'd like to think so, but The Atlantic editor posted screenshots. Sure they can be faked, but I don't think even The Atlantic would be that risky.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 24, 2025 06:39 PM (SwYcw)
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They should have ditched Joe and thrown everything behind RFK Jr. They might have won.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at March 24, 2025 06:35 PM (Dm8we)
They should have backed Tulsi all of those years ago, instead of letting pickled crone Hillary destroy her political career in the Democrats. Tulsi easily could have been the first Lady President if the Dems had listened to their base and gone with Bernie-ism.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at March 24, 2025 06:35 PM (Dm8we)
They should have backed Tulsi all of those years ago, instead of letting pickled crone Hillary destroy her political career in the Democrats. Tulsi easily could have been the first Lady President if the Dems had listened to their base and gone with Bernie-ism.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 24, 2025 06:40 PM (l3YAf)
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There isn't going to be any large scale violence. The vandalism against Tesla is just that. All the pantyfa actors are well known.
Posted by: Ben Had at March 24, 2025 06:36 PM (j6NlC)
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I agree. As the arrests rack up, and the dealerships get better security, what sounded like a cost-free enterprise is going to be regarded as actually dangerous.
For too long these lunatics figured they could FA with finding out. Things are different now.
Trump I was hesitant to lock people up, but J6 changed that, and there will be no hesitation to round folks up.
Posted by: Ben Had at March 24, 2025 06:36 PM (j6NlC)
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I agree. As the arrests rack up, and the dealerships get better security, what sounded like a cost-free enterprise is going to be regarded as actually dangerous.
For too long these lunatics figured they could FA with finding out. Things are different now.
Trump I was hesitant to lock people up, but J6 changed that, and there will be no hesitation to round folks up.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 24, 2025 06:40 PM (ZOv7s)
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I'd like to think so, but The Atlantic editor posted screenshots. Sure they can be faked, but I don't think even The Atlantic would be that risky.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 24, 2025 06:39 PM (SwYcw)
And of course he released it...
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 24, 2025 06:39 PM (SwYcw)
And of course he released it...
Posted by: It's me donna at March 24, 2025 06:40 PM (VE6XX)
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I am for Civil War II. We can't make peace with people who are mentally ill.
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Because of the lack of information (no seriously, I bet 80 percent of the nation still gets their "politics" from the alleged "news" channels), I feel like Civil War II will pit 20% from the furthest left against 30% from the furthest right, and a full half of our country will be initially bewildered and asking themselves what the hell is going on!
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Because of the lack of information (no seriously, I bet 80 percent of the nation still gets their "politics" from the alleged "news" channels), I feel like Civil War II will pit 20% from the furthest left against 30% from the furthest right, and a full half of our country will be initially bewildered and asking themselves what the hell is going on!
Posted by: Crusader at March 24, 2025 06:40 PM (TN0g+)
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I am for Civil War II. We can't make peace with people who are mentally ill.
Posted by: Pamazon at March 24, 2025 06:37 PM (b5MGU)
I'm not. I'd much rather see the construction - and use - of looney bins across the country. We'd be safer from most of the crazies, and they might actually get help.
Posted by: Pamazon at March 24, 2025 06:37 PM (b5MGU)
I'm not. I'd much rather see the construction - and use - of looney bins across the country. We'd be safer from most of the crazies, and they might actually get help.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 24, 2025 06:40 PM (VNX3d)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 24, 2025 06:40 PM (T/xPf)
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> Anarchists are not against all government
Depends on the flavor of anarchist. Like "liberal" and "progressive", the term "anarchist" has been coopted by communists because the Marxist brand is associated with the stench of 100 million corpses.
Real anarchists don't wear uniforms.
Depends on the flavor of anarchist. Like "liberal" and "progressive", the term "anarchist" has been coopted by communists because the Marxist brand is associated with the stench of 100 million corpses.
Real anarchists don't wear uniforms.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 24, 2025 06:40 PM (W5ArC)
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If they thought they were going on trains, they would be nicer to Trump and his supporters.
Posted by: ... at March 24, 2025 06:40 PM (E0p3T)
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Read here:
http://tiny.cc/k1he001
[partially available w/o a substack subscription]
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 24, 2025 06:31 PM (/tzYP)
a) they're absolute idiots.
b) I'm not surprised they're using signal. They need to hide their planning from the CIA and NSA, there are not many options.
c) Do you know how many times I make sure I don't accidentally "cc" the wrong person before I send an email? And my stuff is small potatoes as a lawyer compared to accidentally adding some libtard reporter to your group chat planning a military attack.
http://tiny.cc/k1he001
[partially available w/o a substack subscription]
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 24, 2025 06:31 PM (/tzYP)
a) they're absolute idiots.
b) I'm not surprised they're using signal. They need to hide their planning from the CIA and NSA, there are not many options.
c) Do you know how many times I make sure I don't accidentally "cc" the wrong person before I send an email? And my stuff is small potatoes as a lawyer compared to accidentally adding some libtard reporter to your group chat planning a military attack.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 24, 2025 06:40 PM (uCjyK)
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#66 Oops. Breaking 911 link with screencaps.
http://tiny.cc/42he001
MAGA tech bros are claiming 'fake!'
MAGA fans are saying 'leaked on purpose as 20-d chess move!'
Left are saying "You wanted Hills arrested for unsecure server [sic] -- how about all of these cabinet secretaries then?!?!'
http://tiny.cc/42he001
MAGA tech bros are claiming 'fake!'
MAGA fans are saying 'leaked on purpose as 20-d chess move!'
Left are saying "You wanted Hills arrested for unsecure server [sic] -- how about all of these cabinet secretaries then?!?!'
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 24, 2025 06:40 PM (/tzYP)
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The senior House Democrat told Axios that a colleague called them after a town hall crying and said: "They hate us. They hate us."
Cheer up, pal. We hate you more.
Cheer up, pal. We hate you more.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 24, 2025 06:41 PM (mlg/3)
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Judge Jeanine just made a great point about how the AG can "follow the money" and connect which Democrat is stoking anti-Tesla violence & shorting Tesla stock.
Judge Jeanine just made a great point about how the AG can "follow the money" and connect which Democrat is stoking anti-Tesla violence & shorting Tesla stock.
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 24, 2025 06:41 PM (K8QQI)
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Steve Scalise nearly killed.
Two assassination attempts on Donald Trump's life.
Teslas getting firebombed as we speak.
Democrats are too nice
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 24, 2025 06:33 PM (63Dwl)
Hey what about me ? That guy fucked up my poodle cut and broke my ribs
Two assassination attempts on Donald Trump's life.
Teslas getting firebombed as we speak.
Democrats are too nice
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 24, 2025 06:33 PM (63Dwl)
Hey what about me ? That guy fucked up my poodle cut and broke my ribs
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 24, 2025 06:41 PM (NtVYv)
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Dude.
You can't send Ace $1000 in one shot...he'll end up OD'ing on Chicken Tenders at the Local Burger King!
You can't send Ace $1000 in one shot...he'll end up OD'ing on Chicken Tenders at the Local Burger King!
Posted by: garrett at March 24, 2025 06:41 PM (GIkaP)
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> As the arrests rack up
Trump threatened to charge them as domestic terrorists.
Let's hope that happens.
Trump threatened to charge them as domestic terrorists.
Let's hope that happens.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 24, 2025 06:41 PM (W5ArC)
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Signal isn’t safe to use, even with accidentally including a journalist. Somebody needs a whack with the dummy stick.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 24, 2025 06:37 PM
No it ain't, and there is zero reason for anyone in the whitehouse to be using any sort of online group software to discuss classified stuff. It's just as bad as zoom and probably even more unsecured. All it takes is for someone to push a couple of buttons to invite anyone they want to.
I would suspect at this point that Trump or his COS will immediately prohibit it's use in the future.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 24, 2025 06:37 PM
No it ain't, and there is zero reason for anyone in the whitehouse to be using any sort of online group software to discuss classified stuff. It's just as bad as zoom and probably even more unsecured. All it takes is for someone to push a couple of buttons to invite anyone they want to.
I would suspect at this point that Trump or his COS will immediately prohibit it's use in the future.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 24, 2025 06:41 PM (e5NfL)
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Breaking911 @Breaking911 4h [very pro PDT]
BREAKING: White House confirms Trump national security team accidentally texted plans for Yemen attacks to The Atlantic’s editor in chief
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I am glad that they acknowledged it. Totally unacceptable sloppy work, if you ask me, but lessons learned.
BREAKING: White House confirms Trump national security team accidentally texted plans for Yemen attacks to The Atlantic’s editor in chief
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I am glad that they acknowledged it. Totally unacceptable sloppy work, if you ask me, but lessons learned.
Posted by: runner at March 24, 2025 06:41 PM (g47mK)
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Six drops of the essence of terror, five drops of sinister sauce..
Posted by: Grump928(C)
MILTON!
Six drops of the essence of terror, five drops of sinister sauce..
Posted by: Grump928(C)
MILTON!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 24, 2025 06:42 PM (63Dwl)
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>> If the tariffs go through, and prices go up some more, which they inevitably will, I think there's going to be a sizeable chunk of support lost for Trump.
We'll have to see if there's any parallel to what Reagan had to do to unfuck everything Carter left him, which initially caused a recession followed by a huge bounceback. I think the country had more patience back then because they at least knew he had the country's best interests in mind, just like Trump, while it was obvious that Biden's puppets hate America and were trying to destroy it from within. I'm not encouraged that we as a culture have the patience to endure anything that lasts longer than Netflix buffering.
We'll have to see if there's any parallel to what Reagan had to do to unfuck everything Carter left him, which initially caused a recession followed by a huge bounceback. I think the country had more patience back then because they at least knew he had the country's best interests in mind, just like Trump, while it was obvious that Biden's puppets hate America and were trying to destroy it from within. I'm not encouraged that we as a culture have the patience to endure anything that lasts longer than Netflix buffering.
Posted by: the dandy at March 24, 2025 06:42 PM (L+5ng)
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I started. To watch that Klein/Shor vid this past wknd, but peeled off because Shor clearly is stuck in the Glory Days of the pasr, using anachronistic terms like white power lolol
Posted by: kallisto at March 24, 2025 06:42 PM (h9mRH)
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It's OK, everybody forgets hoarding toilet paper.
Posted by: Deplorable Minion at March 24, 2025 06:42 PM (QSrLX)
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>>My eeyorism is well documented here, but I really am afraid that the vapid talking points that the left has been peddling, specifically about the tariffs - is going to cause a swing back to the left. They may be raving lunatics but they have the media and pop culture running cover for them.
What they don't have is reality. People keep looking at Trump's tariffs wrong.
As Hannibal Lecter said "First principles, Clarice. Read Marcus Aurelius. Of each particular thing ask: what is it in itself? What is its nature? What does he do, this man you seek?"
What does Trump do? He negotiates. Tariffs are a negotiating tool. And they are working. Chip plants are coming back to the US, car manufacturers are coming back, investment is pouring into the country, $4 trillion so far and counting. And it's only been 2 months.
Trump used tariffs in his first term and we had a roaring economy with almost zero inflation. All people care about is that, a good economy and no inflation.
What they don't have is reality. People keep looking at Trump's tariffs wrong.
As Hannibal Lecter said "First principles, Clarice. Read Marcus Aurelius. Of each particular thing ask: what is it in itself? What is its nature? What does he do, this man you seek?"
What does Trump do? He negotiates. Tariffs are a negotiating tool. And they are working. Chip plants are coming back to the US, car manufacturers are coming back, investment is pouring into the country, $4 trillion so far and counting. And it's only been 2 months.
Trump used tariffs in his first term and we had a roaring economy with almost zero inflation. All people care about is that, a good economy and no inflation.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 24, 2025 06:42 PM (LkLld)
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***So this isn't a base that is demanding the party try something new. This is a base demanding that the party double-down on all the things the public hates and has already rejected.
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and the crowd chant
AOC, AOC, AOC
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and the crowd chant
AOC, AOC, AOC
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 24, 2025 06:42 PM (nbrPU)
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There aren't any in your party. They're all just soy soaked, almost women. No one believes any of you have now or ever did have and measurable amount of testosterone. None. Zip, zilch, nada. You pathetic, insignificant losers have your balls stored in some broad's purse. If you got them back, you wouldn't know what to do with them. Real men have balls. They know exactly how to use those whether for fighting or fucking, they can handle it. You freaks couldn't fight to save your latte and what little you understand about fucking is why women avoid you.
Go away, and take your precious soy latte with you.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at March 24, 2025 06:35 PM (4XwPj)
Birth control changes the sort of man women choose. When they are taking it they prefer the nebbishes, when they go off it they prefer the masculine or bad boys
Go away, and take your precious soy latte with you.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at March 24, 2025 06:35 PM (4XwPj)
Birth control changes the sort of man women choose. When they are taking it they prefer the nebbishes, when they go off it they prefer the masculine or bad boys
Posted by: Oldcat at March 24, 2025 06:42 PM (n7h9X)
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Don't fall for the lie that the twerps you see in Steve Inman videos are who are going to be doing the fighting if the lead starts to fly....
Posted by: Defenestratus at March 24, 2025 06:39 PM
Hence, as it is written in The Tao of Weasel:
1. Focus on fundamentals.
2. Buy ammo.
Posted by: Defenestratus at March 24, 2025 06:39 PM
Hence, as it is written in The Tao of Weasel:
1. Focus on fundamentals.
2. Buy ammo.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 24, 2025 06:42 PM (a3Q+t)
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110 >>First thing you pussies need to do is...
>>Find a man.
I hear Beto O'rourke has been tanning his anus and resting up...
Posted by: garrett at March 24, 2025 06:37 PM (GIkaP
Just because it's male, doesn't make it a man.
>>Find a man.
I hear Beto O'rourke has been tanning his anus and resting up...
Posted by: garrett at March 24, 2025 06:37 PM (GIkaP
Just because it's male, doesn't make it a man.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at March 24, 2025 06:42 PM (4XwPj)
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Don't fall for the lie that the twerps you see in Steve Inman videos are who are going to be doing the fighting if the lead starts to fly....
Posted by: Defenestratus at March 24, 2025 06:39 PM (WYStd)
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The problem is, it's all fun and games for the twinks until the lead starts to fly. Then, the bad hombres get to be out front, because the twinks run, and the really bad guys no longer have cannon fodder to hide behind.
Posted by: Defenestratus at March 24, 2025 06:39 PM (WYStd)
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The problem is, it's all fun and games for the twinks until the lead starts to fly. Then, the bad hombres get to be out front, because the twinks run, and the really bad guys no longer have cannon fodder to hide behind.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at March 24, 2025 06:42 PM (tT6L1)
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I'd like to think so, but The Atlantic editor posted screenshots. Sure they can be faked, but I don't think even The Atlantic would be that risky.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 24, 2025 06:39 PM (SwYcw)
And of course he released it...
Posted by: It's me donna at March 24, 2025 06:40 PM (VE6XX)
I'm hoping against hope that it's a false flag. A completely different operation starts about 30 minutes before the time listed in the leaked plans.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 24, 2025 06:39 PM (SwYcw)
And of course he released it...
Posted by: It's me donna at March 24, 2025 06:40 PM (VE6XX)
I'm hoping against hope that it's a false flag. A completely different operation starts about 30 minutes before the time listed in the leaked plans.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 24, 2025 06:42 PM (VNX3d)
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I'd like to think so, but The Atlantic editor posted screenshots. Sure they can be faked, but I don't think even The Atlantic would be that risky.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 24, 2025 06:39 PM (SwYcw)
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Why wouldn't they?
Not kidding. Why not fake it? What is the downside? 60 Minutes doctors a tape. You think the Atlantic has any ethics at all?
Oh, and guess what? If they saw it, and didn't report it, they just committed espionage. So either way, they're screwed.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 24, 2025 06:39 PM (SwYcw)
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Why wouldn't they?
Not kidding. Why not fake it? What is the downside? 60 Minutes doctors a tape. You think the Atlantic has any ethics at all?
Oh, and guess what? If they saw it, and didn't report it, they just committed espionage. So either way, they're screwed.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 24, 2025 06:42 PM (ZOv7s)
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133 I use Tensor to generate images
https://tensor.art/u/727481333235843246
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 24, 2025 06:40 PM (T/xPf)
I know. I just thought you'd want to try it.
I've been loving Grok3 for helping me out with tasks.
https://tensor.art/u/727481333235843246
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 24, 2025 06:40 PM (T/xPf)
I know. I just thought you'd want to try it.
I've been loving Grok3 for helping me out with tasks.
Posted by: Stateless...69g% - mental state clawing up from 10% at March 24, 2025 06:43 PM (jvJvP)
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*bows and reverently tips hat to Madame Mayhem*
The Dems don't need a man or a Tea Party... they need an 'ette!
The Dems don't need a man or a Tea Party... they need an 'ette!
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at March 24, 2025 06:43 PM (kOluj)
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Reminder: The Atlantic is know to Make Shit Up, really bad shit.
Example: The Atlantic totally invented the Hoax about "suckers and losers."
Reminder: The Atlantic is know to Make Shit Up, really bad shit.
Example: The Atlantic totally invented the Hoax about "suckers and losers."
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 24, 2025 06:43 PM (K8QQI)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 24, 2025 06:44 PM (paSBy)
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> 131 I am for Civil War II. We can't make peace with people who are mentally ill.
Nah. I'm in favor of rounding up all the communists, frogmarching them to the nearest border, and kicking them across it, after chipping them so they can be put to hard labor if they ever try to return.
The Brits learned a long time ago that transportation solves the problem without getting the transportee's friends and relatives too upset.
Nah. I'm in favor of rounding up all the communists, frogmarching them to the nearest border, and kicking them across it, after chipping them so they can be put to hard labor if they ever try to return.
The Brits learned a long time ago that transportation solves the problem without getting the transportee's friends and relatives too upset.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 24, 2025 06:44 PM (W5ArC)
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It'd be funnier if they set up the Yemeni Bombing in a Call of Duty GroupChat.
Posted by: garrett at March 24, 2025 06:44 PM (GIkaP)
Posted by: runner at March 24, 2025 06:44 PM (g47mK)
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c) Do you know how many times I make sure I don't accidentally "cc" the wrong person before I send an email? And my stuff is small potatoes as a lawyer compared to accidentally adding some libtard reporter to your group chat planning a military attack.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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How was a libtard reporter even accidentally added to begin with? Yes, you often start off with a mailing list or group list and then add/subtract, but why do they even have Jeffrey Goldberg in their Contacts?
c) Do you know how many times I make sure I don't accidentally "cc" the wrong person before I send an email? And my stuff is small potatoes as a lawyer compared to accidentally adding some libtard reporter to your group chat planning a military attack.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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How was a libtard reporter even accidentally added to begin with? Yes, you often start off with a mailing list or group list and then add/subtract, but why do they even have Jeffrey Goldberg in their Contacts?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 24, 2025 06:44 PM (SwYcw)
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Just because it's male, doesn't make it a man.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at March 24, 2025 06:42 PM
* scribbles a note *
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at March 24, 2025 06:42 PM
* scribbles a note *
Posted by: Ketanji Brown Jackson at March 24, 2025 06:45 PM (a3Q+t)
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Defenestratus, you say that as if there is no one on the opposing team. That is a fallacy.
Posted by: Ben Had at March 24, 2025 06:45 PM (j6NlC)
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137 #66 Oops. Breaking 911 link with screencaps.
http://tiny.cc/42he001
MAGA tech bros are claiming 'fake!'
MAGA fans are saying 'leaked on purpose as 20-d chess move!'
Left are saying "You wanted Hills arrested for unsecure server [sic] -- how about all of these cabinet secretaries then?!?!'
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 24, 2025 06:40 PM (/tzYP)
Can't say that the lefties don't have a point there.
Regardless of whether or not there are moles in the government, we can't be having this bullsh*t, off the record kind of crap going on.
The hypocrisy of it is infuriating.
http://tiny.cc/42he001
MAGA tech bros are claiming 'fake!'
MAGA fans are saying 'leaked on purpose as 20-d chess move!'
Left are saying "You wanted Hills arrested for unsecure server [sic] -- how about all of these cabinet secretaries then?!?!'
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 24, 2025 06:40 PM (/tzYP)
Can't say that the lefties don't have a point there.
Regardless of whether or not there are moles in the government, we can't be having this bullsh*t, off the record kind of crap going on.
The hypocrisy of it is infuriating.
Posted by: Defenestratus at March 24, 2025 06:45 PM (WYStd)
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why do they even have Jeffrey Goldberg in their Contacts?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 24, 2025 06:44 PM (SwYcw)
Probably a different Jeffrey Goldberg IYKWIM
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 24, 2025 06:44 PM (SwYcw)
Probably a different Jeffrey Goldberg IYKWIM
Posted by: ... at March 24, 2025 06:45 PM (E0p3T)
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Presumed fake news until proven otherwise.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 24, 2025 06:35 PM (ZOv7s)
The White house acknowledged that it happened.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 24, 2025 06:35 PM (ZOv7s)
The White house acknowledged that it happened.
Posted by: Defenestratus at March 24, 2025 06:46 PM (WYStd)
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Trump used tariffs in his first term and we had a roaring economy with almost zero inflation. All people care about is that, a good economy and no inflation.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 24, 2025 06:42 PM (LkLld)
Option two is the nation does not end tariffs. But companies from that area develop factories and farms in the US to dodge the tariff, giving us free jobs and products locally. We win again.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 24, 2025 06:42 PM (LkLld)
Option two is the nation does not end tariffs. But companies from that area develop factories and farms in the US to dodge the tariff, giving us free jobs and products locally. We win again.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 24, 2025 06:46 PM (n7h9X)
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Trump has revoked Secret Service protection of Alejandro Mayorkas.
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what took so long...
Posted by: runner at March 24, 2025 06:44 PM (g47mK)
The detail had gone silent, so they couldn't get his schedule? Or was he in Argentina, and they were out with hookers?
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what took so long...
Posted by: runner at March 24, 2025 06:44 PM (g47mK)
The detail had gone silent, so they couldn't get his schedule? Or was he in Argentina, and they were out with hookers?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 24, 2025 06:46 PM (VNX3d)
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How was a libtard reporter even accidentally added to begin with? Yes, you often start off with a mailing list or group list and then add/subtract, but why do they even have Jeffrey Goldberg in their Contacts?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 24, 2025 06:44 PM (SwYcw)
That is a great question, isn't it?
Do you think Kamala Harris had Sean Hannitys phone number in her phone and ever accidentally added him to a group thread about anything?
In what universe would it make sense for any of those guys to have Goldberg in their contacts?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 24, 2025 06:44 PM (SwYcw)
That is a great question, isn't it?
Do you think Kamala Harris had Sean Hannitys phone number in her phone and ever accidentally added him to a group thread about anything?
In what universe would it make sense for any of those guys to have Goldberg in their contacts?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 24, 2025 06:46 PM (uCjyK)
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Depends on the flavor of anarchist. Like "liberal" and "progressive", the term "anarchist" has been coopted by communists because the Marxist brand is associated with the stench of 100 million corpses.
Real anarchists don't wear uniforms.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 24, 2025 06:40 PM (W5ArC)
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No, the Anarchist movement was born out of Marxism. It is very much fine with organized militias and terror cells.
The first big split in Marxism was between the Anarchists and the Communists. The former wanted to destroy the state to build the socialist paradise, the latter wanted to use the state.
A high priority of the Soviets in Spain was liquidating the Anarchist leadership.
Real anarchists don't wear uniforms.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 24, 2025 06:40 PM (W5ArC)
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No, the Anarchist movement was born out of Marxism. It is very much fine with organized militias and terror cells.
The first big split in Marxism was between the Anarchists and the Communists. The former wanted to destroy the state to build the socialist paradise, the latter wanted to use the state.
A high priority of the Soviets in Spain was liquidating the Anarchist leadership.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 24, 2025 06:46 PM (ZOv7s)
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Maybe it was intentional. Stupid Hooties didn't get a clue.
Posted by: fd at March 24, 2025 06:47 PM (vFG9F)
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It'd be funnier if they set up the Yemeni Bombing in a Call of Duty GroupChat.
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LEEEEROY JENKINS!!!!!
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LEEEEROY JENKINS!!!!!
Posted by: Crusader at March 24, 2025 06:47 PM (TN0g+)
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FART Tubing.... Let's doo its Peeple !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at March 24, 2025 06:47 PM (162BX)
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Tariffs are not a tax, they may cause the price of certain goods to increase but you don't have to buy them. Food staples price will not increase, neither will gasoline or electricity.
Housing prices will go down, eggs are cheaper, gas is cheaper more prices will stabilize or go down.
The horror of the tariff is a media driven event.
Housing prices will go down, eggs are cheaper, gas is cheaper more prices will stabilize or go down.
The horror of the tariff is a media driven event.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 24, 2025 06:47 PM (nbrPU)
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>>Trump used tariffs in his first term and we had a roaring economy with almost zero inflation. All people care about is that, a good economy and no inflation.
Tariffs or no...
there is an Economic Reckoning baked into the cake. And there is no hope in avoiding it...only delaying it further.
The only way is through. But, we need to bring the pain.
Tariffs or no...
there is an Economic Reckoning baked into the cake. And there is no hope in avoiding it...only delaying it further.
The only way is through. But, we need to bring the pain.
Posted by: garrett at March 24, 2025 06:48 PM (GIkaP)
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Can someone Illuminate Me on what the consequences were of this accidental leak to a Fake News organ? What was the damage?
Can someone Illuminate Me on what the consequences were of this accidental leak to a Fake News organ? What was the damage?
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 24, 2025 06:48 PM (K8QQI)
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Watching Yes Prime Minister, it's so relevant especially with the bureaucrat's undermining all his plans
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 24, 2025 06:48 PM (FCrpy)
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DU is Big Mad about The Leak.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 24, 2025 06:48 PM (a3Q+t)
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But the fact that 37% of our country is totes cool with illegals just being allowed to hang around is rather alarming.
Posted by: Crusader at March 24, 2025 06:21 PM (TN0g+)
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That 30-40% is the mindless Democrat layer that always does what the party wants.
But the fact that 37% of our country is totes cool with illegals just being allowed to hang around is rather alarming.
Posted by: Crusader at March 24, 2025 06:21 PM (TN0g+)
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That 30-40% is the mindless Democrat layer that always does what the party wants.
Posted by: Ciampino - brainless zombies at March 24, 2025 06:48 PM (sPQoU)
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It looks like just a discussion, and not that secret, other than further insight into each of the players' thinking.
Posted by: runner at March 24, 2025 06:48 PM (g47mK)
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The first big split in Marxism was between the Anarchists and the Communists. The former wanted to destroy the state to build the socialist paradise, the latter wanted to use the state.
A high priority of the Soviets in Spain was liquidating the Anarchist leadership.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 24, 2025 06:46 PM (ZOv7s)
Yeah, this.
Basically it's a question over tactics and logistics.
Do you use the socialist state to bring about the communist revolution, then abolish the state once everyone is living in harmony (what the Russians attempted) OR do you abolish the state first, and then everyone lives in harmony.
They have the same end goal.
A high priority of the Soviets in Spain was liquidating the Anarchist leadership.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 24, 2025 06:46 PM (ZOv7s)
Yeah, this.
Basically it's a question over tactics and logistics.
Do you use the socialist state to bring about the communist revolution, then abolish the state once everyone is living in harmony (what the Russians attempted) OR do you abolish the state first, and then everyone lives in harmony.
They have the same end goal.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 24, 2025 06:48 PM (uCjyK)
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The Trump loving gap between young men and women will close as the girlies start to figure out the hot guys are MAGA
Posted by: kallisto at March 24, 2025 06:48 PM (h9mRH)
Posted by: Ed McMahon at March 24, 2025 06:49 PM (jc0TO)
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"The intensity of the anger roiling the party is at a historic level"
Oh yeah, so what other historical levels were there?
I guess they're also really pissed that the 87 THOUSAND IRS agents Joe's handlers hired got fired (I hope).
Those guys were there to go after white males.
"The intensity of the anger roiling the party is at a historic level"
Oh yeah, so what other historical levels were there?
I guess they're also really pissed that the 87 THOUSAND IRS agents Joe's handlers hired got fired (I hope).
Those guys were there to go after white males.
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at March 24, 2025 06:49 PM (et1vG)
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Not players, cabinet members. Not huge, could have been worse, sloppy work. Unless intentional....
Posted by: runner at March 24, 2025 06:49 PM (g47mK)
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The democrats Monster Children have come home to roost!
Posted by: Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Rayciss YT Hater at March 24, 2025 06:49 PM (R/m4+)
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166 Defenestratus, you say that as if there is no one on the opposing team. That is a fallacy.
Posted by: Ben Had at March 24, 2025 06:45 PM (j6NlC)
What do you mean? Is this in reference to my comment about mistaking the Antifa twerps as representative of the lack of physicality of the left's ideological soldiers?
My comment isn't comparing us to them in a aggregate dead lift competition or anything.
I'm saying that underestimating their capacity for *effective* violence is a huge mistake.
Posted by: Ben Had at March 24, 2025 06:45 PM (j6NlC)
What do you mean? Is this in reference to my comment about mistaking the Antifa twerps as representative of the lack of physicality of the left's ideological soldiers?
My comment isn't comparing us to them in a aggregate dead lift competition or anything.
I'm saying that underestimating their capacity for *effective* violence is a huge mistake.
Posted by: Defenestratus at March 24, 2025 06:49 PM (WYStd)
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They do have some sluggers that are training and keeping quiet about it. I serve on the membership committee of my local gun club and we get some of the James Brown members rolling in every once in a while. At some point in the interview process they give away the game by using the vocabulary of the Communist/Marxists and I'm telling you what - I'm 6'6" 260lbs and I wouldn't want to tangle with some of these guys. Most of them are ex-military and f*cking scary. Legit bad hombres.
Posted by: Defenestratus at March 24, 2025 06:39 PM (WYStd)
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If you say so. I've been hearing about this vast reserve army of hard-core trained leftists, and they typically appear online in discussions. My suspicion is that they are NOT going to rise up but rather defend their territory.
Posted by: Defenestratus at March 24, 2025 06:39 PM (WYStd)
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If you say so. I've been hearing about this vast reserve army of hard-core trained leftists, and they typically appear online in discussions. My suspicion is that they are NOT going to rise up but rather defend their territory.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 24, 2025 06:50 PM (ZOv7s)
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Don't hate the playa, hate the game.
Posted by: Charles "Chuck" Schumer (D-NY) at March 24, 2025 06:50 PM (a3Q+t)
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LEEEEROY JENKINS!!!!!
Posted by: Crusader at March 24, 2025 06:47 PM
Hey, you gotta follow the plan !
Posted by: Crusader at March 24, 2025 06:47 PM
Hey, you gotta follow the plan !
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 24, 2025 06:50 PM (NtVYv)
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185 The Trump loving gap between young men and women will close as the girlies start to figure out the hot guys are MAGA
Posted by: kallisto at March 24, 2025 06:48 PM (h9mRH)
I don't know about that. I'm a bit out of the Gen Z age group, but I can tell up from dating older Gen Z's and millennials, there is a significant chunk of young women who would rather be single than dating anyone they suspect is even potentially Trump-curious.
Luckily I'm good at hiding my politics and true thoughts on issues in person.
Posted by: kallisto at March 24, 2025 06:48 PM (h9mRH)
I don't know about that. I'm a bit out of the Gen Z age group, but I can tell up from dating older Gen Z's and millennials, there is a significant chunk of young women who would rather be single than dating anyone they suspect is even potentially Trump-curious.
Luckily I'm good at hiding my politics and true thoughts on issues in person.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 24, 2025 06:50 PM (uCjyK)
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153 110 >>First thing you pussies need to do is...
>>Find a man.
I hear Beto O'rourke has been tanning his anus and resting up...
Posted by: garrett at March 24, 2025 06:37 PM (GIkaP
Just because it's male, doesn't make it a man.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at March 24, 2025 06:42 PM (4XwPj)
It appears the Rahminator is auditioning for that role. But the Anti-Semites will never vote for an IDF veteran.
>>Find a man.
I hear Beto O'rourke has been tanning his anus and resting up...
Posted by: garrett at March 24, 2025 06:37 PM (GIkaP
Just because it's male, doesn't make it a man.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at March 24, 2025 06:42 PM (4XwPj)
It appears the Rahminator is auditioning for that role. But the Anti-Semites will never vote for an IDF veteran.
Posted by: Gref at March 24, 2025 06:50 PM (aBgBM)
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Can someone Illuminate Me on what the consequences were of this accidental leak to a Fake News organ? What was the damage?
Posted by: Soothsayer
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That's the next thing I'm wondering, did it compromise an operation or anything? It revealed a few peoples' thinking -- like, Vance's adversarial stance on Europe is not an act -- but it actually looks like the kind of pros and cons we'd kick around right here.
Can someone Illuminate Me on what the consequences were of this accidental leak to a Fake News organ? What was the damage?
Posted by: Soothsayer
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That's the next thing I'm wondering, did it compromise an operation or anything? It revealed a few peoples' thinking -- like, Vance's adversarial stance on Europe is not an act -- but it actually looks like the kind of pros and cons we'd kick around right here.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 24, 2025 06:51 PM (SwYcw)
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The Democrats need to focus on healthcare, healthcare, healthcare. We need universal healthcare like all civilized nations have. Most important issue of our time. Even beyond trans rights.
Posted by: Sid at March 24, 2025 06:51 PM (8de+D)
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The Left has some hard men and lunatics. Just not enough to overthrow the system. They are the Weathermen all over again.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 24, 2025 06:51 PM (jc0TO)
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Posted by: fd at March 24, 2025 06:47 PM
I don't think it was an accident either. They're trying to find a mole
I don't think it was an accident either. They're trying to find a mole
Posted by: kallisto at March 24, 2025 06:51 PM (h9mRH)
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We'll have to see if there's any parallel to what Reagan had to do to unfuck everything Carter left him, which initially caused a recession followed by a huge bounceback. I think the country had more patience back then because they at least knew he had the country's best interests in mind, just like Trump, while it was obvious that Biden's puppets hate America and were trying to destroy it from within. I'm not encouraged that we as a culture have the patience to endure anything that lasts longer than Netflix buffering.
Posted by: the dandy at March 24, 2025 06:42 PM (L+5ng)
Not all that much different -- they went nuts on the recession and tax cuts and put a bullet into him. Plus WWIII was gonna start because of Reagan. Well that's different, the Left has embraced WWIII as their own.
Posted by: the dandy at March 24, 2025 06:42 PM (L+5ng)
Not all that much different -- they went nuts on the recession and tax cuts and put a bullet into him. Plus WWIII was gonna start because of Reagan. Well that's different, the Left has embraced WWIII as their own.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 24, 2025 06:52 PM (n7h9X)
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197 The Democrats need to focus on healthcare, healthcare, healthcare. We need universal healthcare like all civilized nations have. Most important issue of our time. Even beyond trans rights.
Posted by: Sid at March 24, 2025 06:51 PM (8de+D)
Don't be such a transphobe. There is literally nothing on this planet that is more important than trans rights.
Posted by: Sid at March 24, 2025 06:51 PM (8de+D)
Don't be such a transphobe. There is literally nothing on this planet that is more important than trans rights.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 24, 2025 06:52 PM (uCjyK)
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If you say so. I've been hearing about this vast reserve army of hard-core trained leftists, and they typically appear online in discussions. My suspicion is that they are NOT going to rise up but rather defend their territory.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 24, 2025 06:50 PM (ZOv7s)
They have professional agitators and scum like BLM and antifa, but those are for hire. They don't work for free man!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 24, 2025 06:50 PM (ZOv7s)
They have professional agitators and scum like BLM and antifa, but those are for hire. They don't work for free man!
Posted by: runner at March 24, 2025 06:52 PM (g47mK)
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Also, is there even a chance it was done so the people who were to be bombed would sit up and think, "wait a minutes, America was going to do what?"
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2hrs before allegedly; Atlantic story:
http://tiny.cc/13he001
Autism Capital 🧩 @AutismCapital 3h
🚨NEW: Trump is asked about his reaction to the The Atlantic Editor-in-Chief being "accidentally" added to a private Signal group discussing war plans against the Houthis
"I don't know anything about it. I'm not a big fan of The Atlantic, to me it's a magazine that's going out of business, it's not much of a magazine, but I don't know anything about it."
"They were talking about what exactly? The Houthis? The attack on the Houthis? Well it couldn't be very effective because the attack was very effective. I don't know anything about it."
AZ Intel @AZ_Intel_ 1h
"As President Trump said, the attacks on the Houthis have been highly successful and effective. President Trump continues to have the utmost confidence in his national security team, including National Security Advisor Mike Waltz," per Karoline Leavitt
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2hrs before allegedly; Atlantic story:
http://tiny.cc/13he001
Autism Capital 🧩 @AutismCapital 3h
🚨NEW: Trump is asked about his reaction to the The Atlantic Editor-in-Chief being "accidentally" added to a private Signal group discussing war plans against the Houthis
"I don't know anything about it. I'm not a big fan of The Atlantic, to me it's a magazine that's going out of business, it's not much of a magazine, but I don't know anything about it."
"They were talking about what exactly? The Houthis? The attack on the Houthis? Well it couldn't be very effective because the attack was very effective. I don't know anything about it."
AZ Intel @AZ_Intel_ 1h
"As President Trump said, the attacks on the Houthis have been highly successful and effective. President Trump continues to have the utmost confidence in his national security team, including National Security Advisor Mike Waltz," per Karoline Leavitt
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 24, 2025 06:52 PM (/tzYP)
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201 197 The Democrats need to focus on healthcare, healthcare, healthcare. We need universal healthcare like all civilized nations have. Most important issue of our time. Even beyond trans rights.
Posted by: Sid at March 24, 2025 06:51 PM (8de+D)
Don't be such a transphobe. There is literally nothing on this planet that is more important than trans rights.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 24, 2025 06:52 PM (uCjyK)
Don't be ageist. You MUST save Social Security and Medicare! Nothing else matters!
Posted by: Sid at March 24, 2025 06:51 PM (8de+D)
Don't be such a transphobe. There is literally nothing on this planet that is more important than trans rights.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 24, 2025 06:52 PM (uCjyK)
Don't be ageist. You MUST save Social Security and Medicare! Nothing else matters!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 24, 2025 06:53 PM (VNX3d)
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This just happened a couple hours ago.
>>Hyundai steel plant leads $21 billion U.S. investment, as tariffs loom
>>"This is a clear demonstration that tariffs very strongly work," Trump said at a White House briefing where he was joined by Hyundai executives and other government leaders.
>>Now he said, "Hyundai won't have to pay any tariffs."
https://tinyurl.com/uf6wrb8u
>>Hyundai steel plant leads $21 billion U.S. investment, as tariffs loom
>>"This is a clear demonstration that tariffs very strongly work," Trump said at a White House briefing where he was joined by Hyundai executives and other government leaders.
>>Now he said, "Hyundai won't have to pay any tariffs."
https://tinyurl.com/uf6wrb8u
Posted by: JackStraw at March 24, 2025 06:53 PM (LkLld)
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Sid wants me to vote Vance. Again! Fine!
Posted by: runner at March 24, 2025 06:53 PM (g47mK)
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The horror of the tariff is a media driven event.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 24, 2025 06:47 PM (nbrPU)
I pay attention to a lot of automotive news, reviews, social media - hell I run a automotive forum.
Tariffs is literally the *only* thing that are being discussed right now when it comes to the cost of cars. Even domestically produced cars will have their prices go up due to the fact that hardly any components are made in the US anymore. They're mostly made in Mexico and Canada.
So I see people unashamed to post comments like "these tariffs are the dumbest thing I've ever heard of" and being upvoted and repeated ad-nauseum with no substantive pushback other than the typical "lol libtard" nonsense, it gets me concerned that this tariff situation is going to sour popular opinion.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 24, 2025 06:47 PM (nbrPU)
I pay attention to a lot of automotive news, reviews, social media - hell I run a automotive forum.
Tariffs is literally the *only* thing that are being discussed right now when it comes to the cost of cars. Even domestically produced cars will have their prices go up due to the fact that hardly any components are made in the US anymore. They're mostly made in Mexico and Canada.
So I see people unashamed to post comments like "these tariffs are the dumbest thing I've ever heard of" and being upvoted and repeated ad-nauseum with no substantive pushback other than the typical "lol libtard" nonsense, it gets me concerned that this tariff situation is going to sour popular opinion.
Posted by: Defenestratus at March 24, 2025 06:53 PM (WYStd)
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Can someone Illuminate Me on what the consequences were of this accidental leak to a Fake News organ? What was the damage?
Posted by: Soothsayer
It sounds like admin agreeing to do what they said they would do months ago, hammer the Houthis and then talked about how ghey the Eurofags are.
Posted by: Soothsayer
It sounds like admin agreeing to do what they said they would do months ago, hammer the Houthis and then talked about how ghey the Eurofags are.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 24, 2025 06:53 PM (mlg/3)
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Posted by: fd at March 24, 2025 06:47 PM
I don't think it was an accident either. They're trying to find a mole
Posted by: kallisto at March 24, 2025 06:51 PM (h9mRH)
Seems a pretty safe 'slip up' since these plans are to drop bombs from very high up and Houthis have no flak to speak of.
I don't think it was an accident either. They're trying to find a mole
Posted by: kallisto at March 24, 2025 06:51 PM (h9mRH)
Seems a pretty safe 'slip up' since these plans are to drop bombs from very high up and Houthis have no flak to speak of.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 24, 2025 06:53 PM (n7h9X)
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Yes, there you go. That's what they really mean: They want office-holders to begin openly calling for violence and leading the violent revolution.
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They have nothing else.
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They have nothing else.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 24, 2025 06:54 PM (RIvkX)
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The Democrats need to focus on healthcare, healthcare, healthcare. We need universal healthcare like all civilized nations have. Most important issue of our time. Even beyond trans rights.
Posted by: Sid at March 24, 2025 06:51 PM (8de+D)
Don't be such a transphobe. There is literally nothing on this planet that is more important than trans rights.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 24, 2025 06:52 PM (uCjyK)
Don't be ageist. You MUST save Social Security and Medicare! Nothing else matters!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 24, 2025 06:53 PM
Luxury! Abortions for all is the key to victory.
Posted by: Sid at March 24, 2025 06:51 PM (8de+D)
Don't be such a transphobe. There is literally nothing on this planet that is more important than trans rights.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 24, 2025 06:52 PM (uCjyK)
Don't be ageist. You MUST save Social Security and Medicare! Nothing else matters!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 24, 2025 06:53 PM
Luxury! Abortions for all is the key to victory.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 24, 2025 06:54 PM (jc0TO)
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to becoming potentially the most conservative generation that we've experienced maybe in 50 to 60 years."
The left:
Stole their birthright and gave it to illegals
Stole their parents money and...kept it
Locked though down for LULZ during COVID
Browbeat their parents into clot shotting them
and on and on...
The left earned every bit of hate people have for them
The left:
Stole their birthright and gave it to illegals
Stole their parents money and...kept it
Locked though down for LULZ during COVID
Browbeat their parents into clot shotting them
and on and on...
The left earned every bit of hate people have for them
Posted by: 18-1 at March 24, 2025 06:54 PM (t0Rmr)
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They were talking about what exactly? The Houthis? The attack on the Houthis? Well it couldn't be very effective because the attack was very effective. I don't know anything about it."
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Does he mean the leak being effective ?
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Does he mean the leak being effective ?
Posted by: runner at March 24, 2025 06:54 PM (g47mK)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 24, 2025 06:55 PM (W5ArC)
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Defenestratus. I am saying that it has long been known who the real honchos are and that the cannon fodder is just that. That knowledge makes some to never underestimate anything. Never watch the front of the pack but who is on the edges.
Posted by: Ben Had at March 24, 2025 06:55 PM (j6NlC)
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Democratic members of Congress, back home in their districts for the last week, have been encountering a level of anger and hostility that some see as reminiscent of the 2010 Tea Party wave.
This is an easily solvable problem: Partner with the terrorized GOP and craft legislation to jam these violent retards into mental asylums - and pull their voting rights to under new Red Flag legislation.
If Congress can Red Flag away your 2nd Amendment, then they can equally Red Flag their ability to cast a vote.
This is an easily solvable problem: Partner with the terrorized GOP and craft legislation to jam these violent retards into mental asylums - and pull their voting rights to under new Red Flag legislation.
If Congress can Red Flag away your 2nd Amendment, then they can equally Red Flag their ability to cast a vote.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at March 24, 2025 06:55 PM (a4flb)
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Individualists Unite!
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 24, 2025 06:55 PM (jc0TO)
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Luckily I'm good at hiding my politics and true thoughts on issues in person.
Unfortunately your age group of females is FUBAR
You're just going to have to date younger women
Unfortunately your age group of females is FUBAR
You're just going to have to date younger women
Posted by: kallisto at March 24, 2025 06:55 PM (h9mRH)
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>> The Democrats need to focus on healthcare, healthcare, healthcare. We need universal healthcare like all civilized nations have. Most important issue of our time. Even beyond trans rights.
Posted by: Sid at March 24, 2025 06:51 PM (8de+D)
Don't be such a transphobe. There is literally nothing on this planet that is more important than trans rights.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 24, 2025 06:52 PM (uCjyK)
Don't be ageist. You MUST save Social Security and Medicare! Nothing else matters!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 24, 2025 06:53 PM
Luxury! Abortions for all is the key to victory.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 24, 2025 06:54 PM (jc0TO)
NONE of this matters until we address the Student Debt Crisis and the Dreamers!
Posted by: Sid at March 24, 2025 06:51 PM (8de+D)
Don't be such a transphobe. There is literally nothing on this planet that is more important than trans rights.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 24, 2025 06:52 PM (uCjyK)
Don't be ageist. You MUST save Social Security and Medicare! Nothing else matters!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 24, 2025 06:53 PM
Luxury! Abortions for all is the key to victory.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 24, 2025 06:54 PM (jc0TO)
NONE of this matters until we address the Student Debt Crisis and the Dreamers!
Posted by: garrett at March 24, 2025 06:55 PM (GIkaP)
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They have professional agitators and scum like BLM and antifa, but those are for hire. They don't work for free man!
Posted by: runner at March 24, 2025 06:52 PM (g47mK)
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Their top choice for sniper was a pizza-faced kid who flubbed an easy shot.
Second string was Uke weirdo.
I mean, I believe that they could very well be hard-core, paramilitary leftists ready to take up arms, but all we ever seem to see are the trannies.
Posted by: runner at March 24, 2025 06:52 PM (g47mK)
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Their top choice for sniper was a pizza-faced kid who flubbed an easy shot.
Second string was Uke weirdo.
I mean, I believe that they could very well be hard-core, paramilitary leftists ready to take up arms, but all we ever seem to see are the trannies.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 24, 2025 06:55 PM (ZOv7s)
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That 30-40% is the mindless Democrat layer that always does what the party wants.
Posted by: Ciampino
I read that as "lawyers"
Posted by: Ciampino
I read that as "lawyers"
Posted by: Miklos actually did that at March 24, 2025 06:55 PM (zRebN)
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Colorized image of anarchist Nestor Makhnot wearing a uniform jacket with Sam Brown and a sword.
Posted by: 13times at March 24, 2025 06:55 PM (fDD6Y)
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I don't think it was an accident either. They're trying to find a mole
I am quite certain that some NeverTrumper in DOD or one of the intelligence agencies arranged this.
This is an op.
I am quite certain that some NeverTrumper in DOD or one of the intelligence agencies arranged this.
This is an op.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 24, 2025 06:56 PM (xTIDn)
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63%...that's all? Just 63% are in favor of deporting illegals? What's wrong with the other 37%?
Posted by: Crusader
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Question: Do you support Trump administration going against federal judges and the constitution to deport people without having to verify that they are criminals or even non-citizens, who have done anything illegal, even though most constitutional scholars claim this is unprecedented and could lead to martial law, global warming, and the heartbreak of psoriasis?
Posted by: Crusader
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Question: Do you support Trump administration going against federal judges and the constitution to deport people without having to verify that they are criminals or even non-citizens, who have done anything illegal, even though most constitutional scholars claim this is unprecedented and could lead to martial law, global warming, and the heartbreak of psoriasis?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at March 24, 2025 06:56 PM (Fqpao)
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The divide isn't so much between young men and young women. It's a 2 x 2 matrix that maps to a spectrum
1) White Non-College Men
2) White Non-College Women
3) White College Men
4) White Non-College Women
#2 is a lot closer to #1 than to #3. (I have the data somewhere)
White Non-College is 35% of the electorate and they skew to swing states. #4 are destined to be lone cat ladies.
1) White Non-College Men
2) White Non-College Women
3) White College Men
4) White Non-College Women
#2 is a lot closer to #1 than to #3. (I have the data somewhere)
White Non-College is 35% of the electorate and they skew to swing states. #4 are destined to be lone cat ladies.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2025 06:56 PM (Gqoy+)
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The Democrats need to focus on healthcare, healthcare, healthcare. We need universal healthcare like all civilized nations have. Most important issue of our time. Even beyond trans rights.
Posted by: Sid
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Hee hee hee! I may start donating to AOC.
The Democrats need to focus on healthcare, healthcare, healthcare. We need universal healthcare like all civilized nations have. Most important issue of our time. Even beyond trans rights.
Posted by: Sid
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Hee hee hee! I may start donating to AOC.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 24, 2025 06:56 PM (SwYcw)
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The shriekers I know on Facebook are going nuts about the leak of the Yemen plan . I'm not even bothering to respond, but I'd say "did it have any practical effect
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 24, 2025 06:57 PM (rsgUv)
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No. Words have meanings.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 24, 2025 06:55 PM (W5ArC)
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So the Spanish Anarchists were confused about their identity? Maybe your definition isn't the only one.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 24, 2025 06:55 PM (W5ArC)
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So the Spanish Anarchists were confused about their identity? Maybe your definition isn't the only one.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 24, 2025 06:57 PM (ZOv7s)
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Do you use the socialist state to bring about the communist revolution, then abolish the state once everyone is living in harmony (what the Russians attempted) OR do you abolish the state first, and then everyone lives in harmony.
They have the same end goal.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 24, 2025 06:48 PM (uCjyK)
We abolished everything except Angkar, "the organization". Country, government, family, even the calendar, all abolished in the name of Angkar. Still didn't work. Maybe democrats do better.
They have the same end goal.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 24, 2025 06:48 PM (uCjyK)
We abolished everything except Angkar, "the organization". Country, government, family, even the calendar, all abolished in the name of Angkar. Still didn't work. Maybe democrats do better.
Posted by: Zombie Pol Pot, Government School Teacher at March 24, 2025 06:57 PM (R/m4+)
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Don't be such a transphobe. There is literally nothing on this planet that is more important than trans rights.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 24, 2025 06:52 PM (uCjyK)
Don't be ageist. You MUST save Social Security and Medicare! Nothing else matters!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 24, 2025 06:53 PM
Luxury! Abortions for all is the key to victory.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 24, 2025 06:54 PM (jc0TO)
NONE of this matters until we address the Student Debt Crisis and the Dreamers!
Posted by: garrett
While the Earf if BURNING??!?!?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 24, 2025 06:52 PM (uCjyK)
Don't be ageist. You MUST save Social Security and Medicare! Nothing else matters!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 24, 2025 06:53 PM
Luxury! Abortions for all is the key to victory.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 24, 2025 06:54 PM (jc0TO)
NONE of this matters until we address the Student Debt Crisis and the Dreamers!
Posted by: garrett
While the Earf if BURNING??!?!?
Posted by: Miklos actually welcomes warmer weather at March 24, 2025 06:57 PM (zRebN)
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The shriekers I know on Facebook are going nuts about the leak of the Yemen plan . I'm not even bothering to respond, but I'd say "did it have any practical effect
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 24, 2025 06:57 PM
Sometimes you want the rats to run.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 24, 2025 06:57 PM
Sometimes you want the rats to run.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 24, 2025 06:57 PM (jc0TO)
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>> Tariffs is literally the *only* thing that are being discussed right now when it comes to the cost of cars. Even domestically produced cars will have their prices go up due to the fact that hardly any components are made in the US anymore. They're mostly made in Mexico and Canada.
I’m not the biggest fan of tariffs, but I don’t think they’ll make prices go up much, if at all. They’ll just absorb the cost of the tariffs.
I’m not the biggest fan of tariffs, but I don’t think they’ll make prices go up much, if at all. They’ll just absorb the cost of the tariffs.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 24, 2025 06:57 PM (l3YAf)
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The shriekers I know on Facebook are going nuts about the leak of the Yemen plan . I'm not even bothering to respond, but I'd say "did it have any practical effect
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 24, 2025 06:57 PM (rsgUv)
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One day story.
They all are one day stories.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 24, 2025 06:57 PM (rsgUv)
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One day story.
They all are one day stories.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 24, 2025 06:58 PM (ZOv7s)
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sounds like The Bolsheviks v. the Mensheviks to me.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at March 24, 2025
You might have hit the nail
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at March 24, 2025
You might have hit the nail
Posted by: Skip at March 24, 2025 06:58 PM (fwDg9)
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How much of the cost of a Coke is the aluminum in the can?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 24, 2025 06:59 PM (jc0TO)
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The Democrats need to focus on healthcare, healthcare, healthcare. We need universal healthcare like all civilized nations have. Most important issue of our time. Even beyond trans rights.
Posted by: Sid at March 24, 2025 06:51 PM (8de+D)
Don't be such a transphobe. There is literally nothing on this planet that is more important than trans rights.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 24, 2025 06:52 PM (uCjyK)
Don't be ageist. You MUST save Social Security and Medicare! Nothing else matters!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 24, 2025 06:53 PM
Luxury! Abortions for all is the key to victory.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 24, 2025 06:54 PM (jc0TO)
NONE of this matters until we address the Student Debt Crisis and the Dreamers!
Posted by: garrett
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I can't believe you people will let the PLANET alternately boil and freeze while you prioritize mere human needs.
The Democrats need to focus on healthcare, healthcare, healthcare. We need universal healthcare like all civilized nations have. Most important issue of our time. Even beyond trans rights.
Posted by: Sid at March 24, 2025 06:51 PM (8de+D)
Don't be such a transphobe. There is literally nothing on this planet that is more important than trans rights.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 24, 2025 06:52 PM (uCjyK)
Don't be ageist. You MUST save Social Security and Medicare! Nothing else matters!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 24, 2025 06:53 PM
Luxury! Abortions for all is the key to victory.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 24, 2025 06:54 PM (jc0TO)
NONE of this matters until we address the Student Debt Crisis and the Dreamers!
Posted by: garrett
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I can't believe you people will let the PLANET alternately boil and freeze while you prioritize mere human needs.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 24, 2025 06:59 PM (SwYcw)
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It'd be funnier if they set up the Yemeni Bombing in a Call of Duty Group Chat.
Posted by: garrett
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That I'd pay to see screenshots of!
Posted by: garrett
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That I'd pay to see screenshots of!
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 24, 2025 06:59 PM (/tzYP)
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Yemen, Houthis and the Blowfish were rad
Posted by: The 90s at March 24, 2025 06:59 PM (NtVYv)
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to becoming potentially the most conservative generation that we've experienced maybe in 50 to 60 years."
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How much of this is...
-Covid breaking the back of the indoctrination centers
- internet and X giving curious young a source of unbiased information
- trans and gay stuff going too far and revolting many people with brains.
- covid and inflation making people realize that the economy no longer works for them, yet the Left has been in charge for a lot of years and is doing everything they wanted to destroy it
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How much of this is...
-Covid breaking the back of the indoctrination centers
- internet and X giving curious young a source of unbiased information
- trans and gay stuff going too far and revolting many people with brains.
- covid and inflation making people realize that the economy no longer works for them, yet the Left has been in charge for a lot of years and is doing everything they wanted to destroy it
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at March 24, 2025 07:00 PM (Fqpao)
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"Luckily I'm good at hiding my politics and true thoughts on issues in person."
You cad! I only lie about my dick size.
You cad! I only lie about my dick size.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2025 07:00 PM (Gqoy+)
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So I see people unashamed to post comments like "these tariffs are the dumbest thing I've ever heard of" and being upvoted and repeated ad-nauseum with no substantive pushback other than the typical "lol libtard" nonsense, it gets me concerned that this tariff situation is going to sour popular opinion.
Posted by: Defenestratus at March 24, 2025 06:53 PM (WYStd)
One of the few things that actually shocked me is learning that we have no industry in country to be actaully able to fight a sustained war like WWII or even what Russia is doing in Ukraine. We can't make shells, probably tanks too, and Ammo. And Ukraine has shown these international sources run out.
Russia, paranoid as they are, never let that happen. All those Cold War factories were there ready to churn out weapons. People mocked T55s coming out of mothballs but each one of those is a mobile artillery platform almost as good as top line arty, and it can fire at a village bunker just was well as a modern tank or gun.
Posted by: Defenestratus at March 24, 2025 06:53 PM (WYStd)
One of the few things that actually shocked me is learning that we have no industry in country to be actaully able to fight a sustained war like WWII or even what Russia is doing in Ukraine. We can't make shells, probably tanks too, and Ammo. And Ukraine has shown these international sources run out.
Russia, paranoid as they are, never let that happen. All those Cold War factories were there ready to churn out weapons. People mocked T55s coming out of mothballs but each one of those is a mobile artillery platform almost as good as top line arty, and it can fire at a village bunker just was well as a modern tank or gun.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 24, 2025 07:00 PM (n7h9X)
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The Daily Mail is making a shrieking headline about this "leak" thing. "VANCE BREAKS WITH TRUMP!!!"
Getting the reporter in on this was sloppy (and maybe even intentional, as someone mentioned about), but sounds like pretty much what I'd expect competent people to be doing before launching a strike like this.
Vance: should we really do this -- I don't know might spike oil prices....Hegseth: yeah well, counterpoint...
Exactly what I'd expect officials to be doing.
The Daily Mail is making a shrieking headline about this "leak" thing. "VANCE BREAKS WITH TRUMP!!!"
Getting the reporter in on this was sloppy (and maybe even intentional, as someone mentioned about), but sounds like pretty much what I'd expect competent people to be doing before launching a strike like this.
Vance: should we really do this -- I don't know might spike oil prices....Hegseth: yeah well, counterpoint...
Exactly what I'd expect officials to be doing.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 24, 2025 07:00 PM (w6EFb)
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I like Trump's reaction. Dismiss the propaganda media as useless. It puts the others on notice that they aren't as important as they think they are.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 24, 2025 07:00 PM (VNX3d)
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My eeyorism is well documented here, but I really am afraid that the vapid talking points that the left has been peddling, specifically about the tariffs - is going to cause a swing back to the left. They may be raving lunatics but they have the media and pop culture running cover for them.
The media and pop culture's power is at its lowest point in history. The Internet lets you find your own bubble for literally everything, and people largely have. That's why the Democrats went down from 29% to 27% approval last week, even with CNN giving them mouth-to-mouth the whole time.
The media and pop culture's power is at its lowest point in history. The Internet lets you find your own bubble for literally everything, and people largely have. That's why the Democrats went down from 29% to 27% approval last week, even with CNN giving them mouth-to-mouth the whole time.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 24, 2025 07:01 PM (C/4uM)
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Hee hee hee! I may start donating to AOC.
My favorite was when Amazon negotiated a two billion dollar tax break off of the twenty billion in state and local taxes it was going to pay in exchange for putting its second headquarters in New York City, AOC blocked it, and AOC then boasted that NYC now had an extra two billion to spend on subways and schools.
Uh, that's not how tax breaks work, honey.
My favorite was when Amazon negotiated a two billion dollar tax break off of the twenty billion in state and local taxes it was going to pay in exchange for putting its second headquarters in New York City, AOC blocked it, and AOC then boasted that NYC now had an extra two billion to spend on subways and schools.
Uh, that's not how tax breaks work, honey.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 24, 2025 07:01 PM (xTIDn)
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One day story.
They all are one day stories.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
Not when Darleen is mad
They all are one day stories.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
Not when Darleen is mad
Posted by: Miklos hears about it for weeks at least at March 24, 2025 07:01 PM (zRebN)
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No. Words have meanings.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 24, 2025 06:55 PM (W5ArC)
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So the Spanish Anarchists were confused about their identity? Maybe your definition isn't the only one.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 24, 2025 06:57 PM (ZOv7s)
Anarchists were communists, but had a very public split with Marx himself over the dictatorship of the proletariat.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 24, 2025 06:55 PM (W5ArC)
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So the Spanish Anarchists were confused about their identity? Maybe your definition isn't the only one.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 24, 2025 06:57 PM (ZOv7s)
Anarchists were communists, but had a very public split with Marx himself over the dictatorship of the proletariat.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 24, 2025 07:01 PM (l3YAf)
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Hegseth is about to speak about the Atlantic article.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 24, 2025 07:01 PM (63Dwl)
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>>The Democrats need to focus on healthcare, healthcare, healthcare.
The last time Democrats focused on healthcare they destroyed our health insurance industry.
Democrats should focus on learning the difference between boys and girls. Start with the basics before graduating to math.
The last time Democrats focused on healthcare they destroyed our health insurance industry.
Democrats should focus on learning the difference between boys and girls. Start with the basics before graduating to math.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 24, 2025 07:01 PM (LkLld)
Posted by: kallisto at March 24, 2025 07:01 PM (h9mRH)
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You cad! I only lie about my dick size.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2025 07:00 PM
Like your dick, your politics will eventually come out.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2025 07:00 PM
Like your dick, your politics will eventually come out.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 24, 2025 07:02 PM (jc0TO)
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Hegseth is shortly to appear on Laura Ingraham to address this "leak" stuff.....
Hegseth is shortly to appear on Laura Ingraham to address this "leak" stuff.....
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 24, 2025 07:02 PM (w6EFb)
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Don't be ageist. You MUST save Social Security and Medicare! Nothing else matters!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 24, 2025 06:53 PM (VNX3d)
Yes! I paid into SS all these years and I'll be damned if the young rascals and their children and their children's children won't suffer like I had to! I want my money and I want it now!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 24, 2025 06:53 PM (VNX3d)
Yes! I paid into SS all these years and I'll be damned if the young rascals and their children and their children's children won't suffer like I had to! I want my money and I want it now!
Posted by: Old Fart Boomer at March 24, 2025 07:02 PM (R/m4+)
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Like many others, I think the leak was intentional. Just getting some more popcorn...
Posted by: Ian S. at March 24, 2025 07:02 PM (C/4uM)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 24, 2025 07:02 PM (jc0TO)
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Iowanian here. We know Popcorn
Coconut oil - Good …. Flavocol? Meh. Use Butter! Trust Me. Coconut oil has a good flavor by itself, or at least not a weird aftertaste. It also doesn’t start to oxidize right away unlike most vegetable oils. Movie theaters used it for that reason, they could warm it up 2 days later and it tastes fine, still light and crispy.
Fresh Bacon drippings is good for popping corn, too, and much healthier.
Coconut oil - Good …. Flavocol? Meh. Use Butter! Trust Me. Coconut oil has a good flavor by itself, or at least not a weird aftertaste. It also doesn’t start to oxidize right away unlike most vegetable oils. Movie theaters used it for that reason, they could warm it up 2 days later and it tastes fine, still light and crispy.
Fresh Bacon drippings is good for popping corn, too, and much healthier.
Posted by: Common Tater at March 24, 2025 07:02 PM (+s7dC)
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I’m not the biggest fan of tariffs, but I don’t think they’ll make prices go up much, if at all. They’ll just absorb the cost of the tariffs.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 24, 2025 06:57 PM (l3YAf)
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There is a tidal wave of investment coming, including Hyundai building a new steel plant.
The first thing we will see is American auto plants working at full capacity, because anything coming out of them avoids the tariffs.
Then you will see preliminary ground clearing/construction work. Alongside that, infrastructure upgrades so that construction can even begin. So even the factories won't be done for a couple of years, there will be huge, positive economic impacts.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 24, 2025 06:57 PM (l3YAf)
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There is a tidal wave of investment coming, including Hyundai building a new steel plant.
The first thing we will see is American auto plants working at full capacity, because anything coming out of them avoids the tariffs.
Then you will see preliminary ground clearing/construction work. Alongside that, infrastructure upgrades so that construction can even begin. So even the factories won't be done for a couple of years, there will be huge, positive economic impacts.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 24, 2025 07:03 PM (ZOv7s)
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Hegseth is about to speak about the Atlantic article.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
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Link? Livestream? Channel?
Hegseth is about to speak about the Atlantic article.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
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Link? Livestream? Channel?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 24, 2025 07:04 PM (SwYcw)
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Vance: should we really do this -- I don't know might spike oil prices....Hegseth: yeah well, counterpoint...
Exactly what I'd expect officials to be doing.
A lot of the shrieking about Trump 2.0 sounds like it's coming from people who just pay the sticker price for their car. Like, do you even understand the concept of discussing things and negotiations?
Exactly what I'd expect officials to be doing.
A lot of the shrieking about Trump 2.0 sounds like it's coming from people who just pay the sticker price for their car. Like, do you even understand the concept of discussing things and negotiations?
Posted by: Ian S. at March 24, 2025 07:04 PM (C/4uM)
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Like many others, I think the leak was intentional. Just getting some more popcorn...
Remember, Trump's first term started with transcripts of Trump's phone calls with foreign leaders being leaked.
Remember, Trump's first term started with transcripts of Trump's phone calls with foreign leaders being leaked.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 24, 2025 07:04 PM (xTIDn)
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>>Then you will see preliminary ground clearing/construction work. Alongside that, infrastructure upgrades so that construction can even begin. So even the factories won't be done for a couple of years, there will be huge, positive economic impacts.
Employment.
Employment.
Posted by: garrett at March 24, 2025 07:04 PM (GIkaP)
Posted by: Judges at March 24, 2025 07:05 PM (K8QQI)
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1) White Non-College Men
2) White Non-College Women
3) White College Men
4) White Non-College Women
#2 is a lot closer to #1 than to #3. (I have the data somewhere)
White Non-College is 35% of the electorate and they skew to swing states. #4 are destined to be lone cat ladies.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2025 06:56 PM (Gqoy+)
Non College women voting twice and College Women don't vote ... its a utopia! Disenfranchise the Karens!
2) White Non-College Women
3) White College Men
4) White Non-College Women
#2 is a lot closer to #1 than to #3. (I have the data somewhere)
White Non-College is 35% of the electorate and they skew to swing states. #4 are destined to be lone cat ladies.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2025 06:56 PM (Gqoy+)
Non College women voting twice and College Women don't vote ... its a utopia! Disenfranchise the Karens!
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>>Like many others, I think the leak was intentional. Just getting some more popcorn...
Too bad Hegseth didn't come out with a LEROY JENKINS!!!!!!
That would have done it.
Too bad Hegseth didn't come out with a LEROY JENKINS!!!!!!
That would have done it.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 24, 2025 07:05 PM (LkLld)
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One of the few things that actually shocked me is learning that we have no industry in country to be actaully able to fight a sustained war like WWII or even what Russia is doing in Ukraine. We can't make shells, probably tanks too, and Ammo. And Ukraine has shown these international sources run out.
Russia, paranoid as they are, never let that happen. All those Cold War factories were there ready to churn out weapons. People mocked T55s coming out of mothballs but each one of those is a mobile artillery platform almost as good as top line arty, and it can fire at a village bunker just was well as a modern tank or gun.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 24, 2025 07:00 PM (n7h9X)
Ukraine has also shown the importance of drones, another area where we are heavily dependent on China..
Russia, paranoid as they are, never let that happen. All those Cold War factories were there ready to churn out weapons. People mocked T55s coming out of mothballs but each one of those is a mobile artillery platform almost as good as top line arty, and it can fire at a village bunker just was well as a modern tank or gun.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 24, 2025 07:00 PM (n7h9X)
Ukraine has also shown the importance of drones, another area where we are heavily dependent on China..
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 24, 2025 07:05 PM (l3YAf)
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They're going to base their new populist tea part on Bernie, the guy that sold out to Hillary. I fully support it.
Posted by: ryukyu at March 24, 2025 07:05 PM (GYHsz)
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That's why the Democrats went down from 29% to 27% approval last week, even with CNN giving them mouth-to-mouth the whole time.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 24, 2025 07:01 PM (C/4uM)
Are you sure that wasn't mouth to dick? Whatever it was isn't helping them. Neither demoncrats nor cnn.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 24, 2025 07:01 PM (C/4uM)
Are you sure that wasn't mouth to dick? Whatever it was isn't helping them. Neither demoncrats nor cnn.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at March 24, 2025 07:06 PM (4XwPj)
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dammit
I should have said come up.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 24, 2025 07:02 PM (jc0TO)
I wish.
I should have said come up.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 24, 2025 07:02 PM (jc0TO)
I wish.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 24, 2025 07:06 PM (dGCAG)
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1) White Non-College Men
2) White Non-College Women
3) White College Men
4) White Non-College Women
I think 2 and 4 are a repeat - I presume 4 is white college women?
1) White Non-College Men
2) White Non-College Women
3) White College Men
4) White Non-College Women
I think 2 and 4 are a repeat - I presume 4 is white college women?
Posted by: moki at March 24, 2025 07:06 PM (wLjpr)
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They're going to base their new populist tea part on Bernie, the guy that sold out to Hillary. I fully support it.
Posted by: ryukyu at March 24, 2025 07:05 PM (GYHsz)
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Yeah, and RFK will completely outflank him by taking on Big Pharma, and Bernie will be forced to defend them or lose their campaign dollars.
Posted by: ryukyu at March 24, 2025 07:05 PM (GYHsz)
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Yeah, and RFK will completely outflank him by taking on Big Pharma, and Bernie will be forced to defend them or lose their campaign dollars.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 24, 2025 07:07 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 24, 2025 07:07 PM (Gqoy+)
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I’m not the biggest fan of tariffs, but I don’t think they’ll make prices go up much, if at all. They’ll just absorb the cost of the tariffs.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 24, 2025 06:57 PM (l3YAf)
Have you priced out the cost of a new family SUV like a Tahoe or Suburban? Even the base models are about $65k to start with and that doesn't get you much as far as options are concerned. I put together a GMC Yukon AT4 and the configurator output a $92k MSRP.
My wife drives a Defender which is an amazing vehicle - so much so that I want to replace my rusted out Toyota with a V8 version of it. $110k. Its made in the EU, so it'll get a 25% tariff on it. If you think JLR is going to eat a $27.5k tariff then well, I have a bridge to sell you.
They might eat *some* of that but not nearly enough to remain competitive. And what is JLR's option here? Move their factory, that they just built in Slovakia, to the US? It'll take years to do that. They're going to get shafted big time when the time comes. Now I can see the retort: "Oh boo hoo the European luxuy car maker is going to get shafted". Yes well you'll also shaft the American consumers who like and want them.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 24, 2025 06:57 PM (l3YAf)
Have you priced out the cost of a new family SUV like a Tahoe or Suburban? Even the base models are about $65k to start with and that doesn't get you much as far as options are concerned. I put together a GMC Yukon AT4 and the configurator output a $92k MSRP.
My wife drives a Defender which is an amazing vehicle - so much so that I want to replace my rusted out Toyota with a V8 version of it. $110k. Its made in the EU, so it'll get a 25% tariff on it. If you think JLR is going to eat a $27.5k tariff then well, I have a bridge to sell you.
They might eat *some* of that but not nearly enough to remain competitive. And what is JLR's option here? Move their factory, that they just built in Slovakia, to the US? It'll take years to do that. They're going to get shafted big time when the time comes. Now I can see the retort: "Oh boo hoo the European luxuy car maker is going to get shafted". Yes well you'll also shaft the American consumers who like and want them.
Posted by: Defenestratus at March 24, 2025 07:08 PM (WYStd)
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Non College women voting twice and College Women don't vote ... its a utopia! Disenfranchise the Karens!
Posted by: Oldcat at March 24, 2025 07:05 PM (n7h9X)
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I think Franco limited the franchise to men and married women.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 24, 2025 07:05 PM (n7h9X)
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I think Franco limited the franchise to men and married women.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 24, 2025 07:08 PM (ZOv7s)
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to becoming potentially the most conservative generation that we've experienced maybe in 50 to 60 years."
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How much of this is...
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus)
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Never mind the specifics. The nature of the content was all so horridly dreary and punitive. Just a massive invitation to generational conflict.
to becoming potentially the most conservative generation that we've experienced maybe in 50 to 60 years."
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How much of this is...
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus)
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Never mind the specifics. The nature of the content was all so horridly dreary and punitive. Just a massive invitation to generational conflict.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 24, 2025 07:08 PM (SwYcw)
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If Ace was more cleverer, he would change the name of "Quick Hits" to the "Two Minutes Hate" post.
If Ace was more cleverer, he would change the name of "Quick Hits" to the "Two Minutes Hate" post.
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 24, 2025 07:08 PM (K8QQI)
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Funny story, drone kits for Ukes and Russians come from CHINA....very clever of them !
Posted by: runner at March 24, 2025 07:09 PM (g47mK)
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 24, 2025 07:09 PM (K8QQI)
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My favorite was when Amazon negotiated a two billion dollar tax break off of the twenty billion in state and local taxes it was going to pay in exchange for putting its second headquarters in New York City, AOC blocked it, and AOC then boasted that NYC now had an extra two billion to spend on subways and schools.
Uh, that's not how tax breaks work, honey.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 24, 2025 07:01 PM (xTIDn)
And yet the leaders of the Dems somehow didn't hear her yapping and take steps to keep her mouth shut.
Uh, that's not how tax breaks work, honey.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 24, 2025 07:01 PM (xTIDn)
And yet the leaders of the Dems somehow didn't hear her yapping and take steps to keep her mouth shut.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 24, 2025 07:10 PM (n7h9X)
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One of the few things that actually shocked me is learning that we have no industry in country to be actaully able to fight a sustained war like WWII
Russia, paranoid as they are, never let that happen. All those Cold War factories were there ready to churn out weapons. People mocked T55s coming out of mothballs but each one of those is a mobile artillery platform almost as good as top line arty, and it can fire at a village bunker just was well as a modern tank or gun.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 24, 2025 07:00 PM (n7h9X)
The thing about having the world currency for international trade is that we get the money first and it is cheaper for us than other countries, that is what the Cantillon effect describes.
Because of that there is better return on investing the money than creating capital goods, and the most useful manner to invest is to purchase materials, goods and services overseas to sell here. This is what we have done.
To solve this we can have tariffs, or the Fed can raise rates to make onshore production more attractive than financial poggery. Raising rates will cause a recession. Tariffs won't automatically cause a recession. Maybe.
One of the few things that actually shocked me is learning that we have no industry in country to be actaully able to fight a sustained war like WWII
Russia, paranoid as they are, never let that happen. All those Cold War factories were there ready to churn out weapons. People mocked T55s coming out of mothballs but each one of those is a mobile artillery platform almost as good as top line arty, and it can fire at a village bunker just was well as a modern tank or gun.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 24, 2025 07:00 PM (n7h9X)
The thing about having the world currency for international trade is that we get the money first and it is cheaper for us than other countries, that is what the Cantillon effect describes.
Because of that there is better return on investing the money than creating capital goods, and the most useful manner to invest is to purchase materials, goods and services overseas to sell here. This is what we have done.
To solve this we can have tariffs, or the Fed can raise rates to make onshore production more attractive than financial poggery. Raising rates will cause a recession. Tariffs won't automatically cause a recession. Maybe.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 24, 2025 07:10 PM (D7oie)
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Funny story, drone kits for Ukes and Russians come from CHINA....very clever of them !
Posted by: runner at March 24, 2025 07:09 PM (g47mK)
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We sold Ford trucks to both sides during the Spanish Civil War. They were considered civilian articles, so not under the arms embargo.
Posted by: runner at March 24, 2025 07:09 PM (g47mK)
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We sold Ford trucks to both sides during the Spanish Civil War. They were considered civilian articles, so not under the arms embargo.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 24, 2025 07:10 PM (ZOv7s)
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>> The first thing we will see is American auto plants working at full capacity, because anything coming out of them avoids the tariffs.
Auto plants aren’t fungible, though. There are parts only made overseas.
There will be some increased investment, but most of the profits from foreign-built factories will still end up overseas. The balance of trade will continue to tilt against us, same as it did after the tariffs during Trump’s first term.
Tariffs are the wrong tool here, because they don’t address the core issue causing decades of trade deficits, which is the structure of international monetary systems.
Auto plants aren’t fungible, though. There are parts only made overseas.
There will be some increased investment, but most of the profits from foreign-built factories will still end up overseas. The balance of trade will continue to tilt against us, same as it did after the tariffs during Trump’s first term.
Tariffs are the wrong tool here, because they don’t address the core issue causing decades of trade deficits, which is the structure of international monetary systems.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 24, 2025 07:10 PM (l3YAf)
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And I remember way, way back when Jackstraw was very anti-nationalist, hated what he called Trump's "isolationism."
And I remember way, way back when Jackstraw was very anti-nationalist, hated what he called Trump's "isolationism."
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 24, 2025 07:10 PM (K8QQI)
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They might eat *some* of that but not nearly enough to remain competitive. And what is JLR's option here? Move their factory, that they just built in Slovakia, to the US?
Posted by: Defenestratus at March 24, 2025 07:08 PM (WYStd)
Yes, that's the point.
I know you may want a luxury European car to drive, but as a national policy, it makes sense to encourage people to buy luxury American cars. If we're going to allow the cheap import of luxury European cars, then they have to also take luxury American cars.
Which they don't.
And if Europe wanted to play fair with us on cars, they could have at any point, and they decided to tell us to suck a dick.
So buck up and pay the extra tariffs or buy a different car.
They might eat *some* of that but not nearly enough to remain competitive. And what is JLR's option here? Move their factory, that they just built in Slovakia, to the US?
Posted by: Defenestratus at March 24, 2025 07:08 PM (WYStd)
Yes, that's the point.
I know you may want a luxury European car to drive, but as a national policy, it makes sense to encourage people to buy luxury American cars. If we're going to allow the cheap import of luxury European cars, then they have to also take luxury American cars.
Which they don't.
And if Europe wanted to play fair with us on cars, they could have at any point, and they decided to tell us to suck a dick.
So buck up and pay the extra tariffs or buy a different car.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 24, 2025 07:11 PM (uCjyK)
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They might eat *some* of that but not nearly enough to remain competitive. And what is JLR's option here? Move their factory, that they just built in Slovakia, to the US? It'll take years to do that. They're going to get shafted big time when the time comes. Now I can see the retort: "Oh boo hoo the European luxuy car maker is going to get shafted". Yes well you'll also shaft the American consumers who like and want them.
Posted by: Defenestratus at March 24, 2025 07:08 PM (WYStd)
You can get a Honda Pilot for around $50K.
Built in Alabama. Or you can keep paying for shit made overseas, or in Mexico.
Posted by: Defenestratus at March 24, 2025 07:08 PM (WYStd)
You can get a Honda Pilot for around $50K.
Built in Alabama. Or you can keep paying for shit made overseas, or in Mexico.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 24, 2025 07:11 PM (dGCAG)
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> One of the few things that actually shocked me is learning that we have no industry in country to be actaully able to fight a sustained war like WWII or even what Russia is doing in Ukraine
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A peer conflict with, say China, would be over in several hours, if not a couple days. Presuming our current level of stupidity.
There will be no "sustained" war with the likes of Russia. Or anyone else for that matter.
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A peer conflict with, say China, would be over in several hours, if not a couple days. Presuming our current level of stupidity.
There will be no "sustained" war with the likes of Russia. Or anyone else for that matter.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 24, 2025 07:12 PM (Q4IgG)
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WSJ joined the rest of the far left in "reporting" that Social Security Administration changes to thwart scams are making it slightly less convenient for oldsters to get their benefits. Instead of instructing the SSA to change the account where the checks are to be deposited via telephone, such changes have to be done on line or in person. Over the course of their working lives, the wrinkled relics were the first to adopt the fax machine, the PC (and Mac) and email. I think they can set up a login.gov account.
Posted by: Oglebay at March 24, 2025 07:12 PM (MMp6W)
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They're going to get shafted big time when the time comes. Now I can see the retort: "Oh boo hoo the European luxuy car maker is going to get shafted". Yes well you'll also shaft the American consumers who like and want them.
Posted by: Defenestratus at March 24, 2025 07:08 PM (WYStd)
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We need to rebuild our industrial base. Period. Some automakers are better positioned than others because they read the tea leaves better. That's how the cookie crumbles.
The biggest losers are the ones who bet on cheaper foreign labor and EU protection. So sad.
Posted by: Defenestratus at March 24, 2025 07:08 PM (WYStd)
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We need to rebuild our industrial base. Period. Some automakers are better positioned than others because they read the tea leaves better. That's how the cookie crumbles.
The biggest losers are the ones who bet on cheaper foreign labor and EU protection. So sad.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 24, 2025 07:12 PM (ZOv7s)
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Russia, paranoid as they are, never let that happen. All those Cold War factories were there ready to churn out weapons. People mocked T55s coming out of mothballs but each one of those is a mobile artillery platform almost as good as top line arty, and it can fire at a village bunker just was well as a modern tank or gun.
The reason Russia can fight this war without much economic impact is they are fighting it on the cheap. Since expensive things get killed be missiles, drones, and artillery just as easily as cheap things do it makes sense to build cost effective weapons not "the most expensive feature complete thing we can thing of"
Something our military should be learning...but won't.
The reason Russia can fight this war without much economic impact is they are fighting it on the cheap. Since expensive things get killed be missiles, drones, and artillery just as easily as cheap things do it makes sense to build cost effective weapons not "the most expensive feature complete thing we can thing of"
Something our military should be learning...but won't.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 24, 2025 07:12 PM (t0Rmr)
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Funny story, drone kits for Ukes and Russians come from CHINA....very clever of them !
Posted by: runner at March 24, 2025 07:09 PM (g47mK)
The first Russian cheap drones were Iranian, they bought plans. These were the first kamikaze models. They were caught a bit short when Ukes made them first and they proved pretty effective.
Posted by: runner at March 24, 2025 07:09 PM (g47mK)
The first Russian cheap drones were Iranian, they bought plans. These were the first kamikaze models. They were caught a bit short when Ukes made them first and they proved pretty effective.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 24, 2025 07:13 PM (n7h9X)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at March 24, 2025 07:13 PM (MKRY4)
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I have a Nissan Titan that was built here. It's a pretty good truck.
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 24, 2025 07:13 PM (NtVYv)
Posted by: WitchDoktor at March 24, 2025 07:13 PM (zy08Q)
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Yeah, 20 Years, here.
I was but a wee babe when I began doing Ace.
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 24, 2025 07:09 PM (K8QQI)
You've certainly been here as long as I can remember. Congrats on the 20 year hordeversary.
I'm trying to remember when I, as a young man, first stumbled upon ace. 2009 or so probably.
I was but a wee babe when I began doing Ace.
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 24, 2025 07:09 PM (K8QQI)
You've certainly been here as long as I can remember. Congrats on the 20 year hordeversary.
I'm trying to remember when I, as a young man, first stumbled upon ace. 2009 or so probably.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 24, 2025 07:14 PM (uCjyK)
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Tariffs are the wrong tool here, because they don’t address the core issue causing decades of trade deficits, which is the structure of international monetary systems.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 24, 2025 07:10 PM (l3YAf)
I'd argue that the US tax and regulatory environment is just as detrimental to our ability to establish and retain manufacturing capacity here.
I see some movement in that regard with "the single biggest day of deregulation in US history" but when you have a brigade of Hawaiian judges to shut any effort at fixing our system - I just want to swallow the black pill and throw my hands in the air.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 24, 2025 07:10 PM (l3YAf)
I'd argue that the US tax and regulatory environment is just as detrimental to our ability to establish and retain manufacturing capacity here.
I see some movement in that regard with "the single biggest day of deregulation in US history" but when you have a brigade of Hawaiian judges to shut any effort at fixing our system - I just want to swallow the black pill and throw my hands in the air.
Posted by: Defenestratus at March 24, 2025 07:14 PM (WYStd)
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>> Have you priced out the cost of a new family SUV like a Tahoe or Suburban? Even the base models are about $65k to start with and that doesn't get you much as far as options are concerned. I put together a GMC Yukon AT4 and the configurator output a $92k MSRP.
My wife drives a Defender which is an amazing vehicle - so much so that I want to replace my rusted out Toyota with a V8 version of it. $110k. Its made in the EU, so it'll get a 25% tariff on it. If you think JLR is going to eat a $27.5k tariff then well, I have a bridge to sell you.
Yes, everything is expensive now. Inflation sucks.
The tariffs won’t be that high. They’ll be negotiated down to something more modest, which the producer will eat.
My wife drives a Defender which is an amazing vehicle - so much so that I want to replace my rusted out Toyota with a V8 version of it. $110k. Its made in the EU, so it'll get a 25% tariff on it. If you think JLR is going to eat a $27.5k tariff then well, I have a bridge to sell you.
Yes, everything is expensive now. Inflation sucks.
The tariffs won’t be that high. They’ll be negotiated down to something more modest, which the producer will eat.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 24, 2025 07:15 PM (l3YAf)
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>>Tariffs are the wrong tool here, because they don’t address the core issue causing decades of trade deficits, which is the structure of international monetary systems.
If they are the wrong tool then why have other countries been tariffing the shit out of us for decades?
Reciprocal tariffs. It means tariffing a country at the same level they are tariffing us. We should Canada have crushing taxes on things like our dairy products an we don't have them on Canada?
If they are the wrong tool then why have other countries been tariffing the shit out of us for decades?
Reciprocal tariffs. It means tariffing a country at the same level they are tariffing us. We should Canada have crushing taxes on things like our dairy products an we don't have them on Canada?
Posted by: JackStraw at March 24, 2025 07:15 PM (LkLld)
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Whatever price Swalwell is paying, he ought to consider it a bargain.
How poignant to put up a photo of Swalwell and his little daughter, as if he's just your everyday suburban dad who is being needlessly exposed to danger, instead of the flatulent traitor who stupidly fell into a CCP honeytrap.
How poignant to put up a photo of Swalwell and his little daughter, as if he's just your everyday suburban dad who is being needlessly exposed to danger, instead of the flatulent traitor who stupidly fell into a CCP honeytrap.
Posted by: Paco at March 24, 2025 07:15 PM (mADJX)
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I have a Nissan Titan that was built here. It's a pretty good truck.
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 24, 2025 07:13 PM (NtVYv)
It's really amusing, how once upon a time "Buy American" meant shitty GM and Frod crap.
Now it means Honda and Nissan and the other Jap companies.
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 24, 2025 07:13 PM (NtVYv)
It's really amusing, how once upon a time "Buy American" meant shitty GM and Frod crap.
Now it means Honda and Nissan and the other Jap companies.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 24, 2025 07:15 PM (dGCAG)
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AZ Intel @AZ_Intel_ 2h
Boeing is seeking to withdraw an agreement to plead guilty for deceiving regulators before two deadly 737 MAX jet crashes. - WSJ
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Thank goodness! I was worried it was going to have been about the F-47 contract!
Boeing is seeking to withdraw an agreement to plead guilty for deceiving regulators before two deadly 737 MAX jet crashes. - WSJ
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Thank goodness! I was worried it was going to have been about the F-47 contract!
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 24, 2025 07:15 PM (/tzYP)
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Was there a Sweet Karoline press briefing today?
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at March 24, 2025 07:16 PM (ufFY8)
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Over the course of their working lives, the wrinkled relics were the first to adopt the fax machine, the PC (and Mac) and email. I think they can set up a login.gov account.
Posted by: Oglebay at March 24, 2025 07:12 PM (MMp6W)
Really?
My grandmother, God rest her soul... couldn't figure out how to use an ATM. She relied on my grandfather to operate anything that had electricity running through it - which caused me to go to their house and "fix the computer" at least once a week.
Posted by: Oglebay at March 24, 2025 07:12 PM (MMp6W)
Really?
My grandmother, God rest her soul... couldn't figure out how to use an ATM. She relied on my grandfather to operate anything that had electricity running through it - which caused me to go to their house and "fix the computer" at least once a week.
Posted by: Defenestratus at March 24, 2025 07:17 PM (WYStd)
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The Atlantic and the reporter Goldberg can blow me. Piss off asshole. I call Bullsh*t on his account.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 24, 2025 07:17 PM (W/lyH)
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Reciprocal tariffs. It means tariffing a country at the same level they are tariffing us. We should Canada have crushing taxes on things like our dairy products an we don't have them on Canada?
Posted by: JackStraw at March 24, 2025 07:15 PM (LkLld)
And it goes far beyond that. Most countries use their laws and regulations to keep American companies out. For example, Europe won't import a lot of our food because it "isn't up to their food safety standards." Is there some truth in that? Maybe. But we also know it's because they are protecting their own farmers. Which is fine and is in their best interest.
But we don't do that. We bend over backwards to allow foreign products to be sold here. So even if tariffs were even, we'd still be getting screwed.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 24, 2025 07:15 PM (LkLld)
And it goes far beyond that. Most countries use their laws and regulations to keep American companies out. For example, Europe won't import a lot of our food because it "isn't up to their food safety standards." Is there some truth in that? Maybe. But we also know it's because they are protecting their own farmers. Which is fine and is in their best interest.
But we don't do that. We bend over backwards to allow foreign products to be sold here. So even if tariffs were even, we'd still be getting screwed.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 24, 2025 07:17 PM (uCjyK)
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The reason Russia can fight this war without much economic impact is they are fighting it on the cheap. Since expensive things get killed be missiles, drones, and artillery just as easily as cheap things do it makes sense to build cost effective weapons not "the most expensive feature complete thing we can thing of"
Something our military should be learning...but won't.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 24, 2025 07:12 PM (t0Rmr)
US in WWII was pretty practical, the small prewar armed forces made a lot of good decisions, knowing that every ration bar and bullet would need to be shiped thousands of miles so they had to be durable and able to be fixed near the front. Once they had a good model like the Sherman, they just turned the crank and made a zillion of them
Something our military should be learning...but won't.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 24, 2025 07:12 PM (t0Rmr)
US in WWII was pretty practical, the small prewar armed forces made a lot of good decisions, knowing that every ration bar and bullet would need to be shiped thousands of miles so they had to be durable and able to be fixed near the front. Once they had a good model like the Sherman, they just turned the crank and made a zillion of them
Posted by: Oldcat at March 24, 2025 07:17 PM (n7h9X)
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AZ Intel @AZ_Intel_ 4h
U.S. President Donald Trump has decided to pick Dr. Susan Monarez to be the new nominee to head the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. - CBS
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I recall she was massively anti-WuFlu "vaccines".
U.S. President Donald Trump has decided to pick Dr. Susan Monarez to be the new nominee to head the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. - CBS
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I recall she was massively anti-WuFlu "vaccines".
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 24, 2025 07:17 PM (/tzYP)
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By the way, Oldcat, the problem we face is the same problem the Spanish Empire had when it brought in all that gold and wealth in the form of Chinese goods and then spent it. Inflation, offshoring of industries, short time preference and a rash of bad economic decisions that could be ignored because they didn't cost Spain nearly as much as it would if the volume of money was stable, or if all the money went to, say, England instead. it was also the time of the Golden Era of Spain, and that was funded in part by that cheap money coming in from the colonies.
one of the things that exacerbated the situation of Spain and the colonies was the end of all that cheap money at the beginning of the Napoleonic war, and the increasingly frenzied fights over the shrinking economic pie for the next 200 years.
This is one of the elements that set the stage for the series of coups, rebellions, wild changes in governments, and military adventurism leading up to the Spanish civil war
one of the things that exacerbated the situation of Spain and the colonies was the end of all that cheap money at the beginning of the Napoleonic war, and the increasingly frenzied fights over the shrinking economic pie for the next 200 years.
This is one of the elements that set the stage for the series of coups, rebellions, wild changes in governments, and military adventurism leading up to the Spanish civil war
Posted by: Kindltot at March 24, 2025 07:18 PM (D7oie)
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Over the course of their working lives, the wrinkled relics were the first to adopt the fax machine, the PC (and Mac) and email. I think they can set up a login.gov account.
Posted by: Oglebay at March 24, 2025 07:12 PM (MMp6W)
I can do it! But first I have to put the pictures of my ugly and untalented monster grand children on Facebook for the whole world to marvel at!
Posted by: Oglebay at March 24, 2025 07:12 PM (MMp6W)
I can do it! But first I have to put the pictures of my ugly and untalented monster grand children on Facebook for the whole world to marvel at!
Posted by: Wrinkled Old Relic, Tech Savvy with Viagra at March 24, 2025 07:18 PM (R/m4+)
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298 I have a Nissan Titan that was built here. It's a pretty good truck.
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 24, 2025 07:13 PM (NtVYv)
yeah its so good that its canceled.
No more Nissan Titan.
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 24, 2025 07:13 PM (NtVYv)
yeah its so good that its canceled.
No more Nissan Titan.
Posted by: Defenestratus at March 24, 2025 07:18 PM (WYStd)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 24, 2025 07:19 PM (ufFY8)
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Posted by: Defenestratus at March 24, 2025 07:08 PM (WYStd)
EU has had high Tariffs on US products for decades, while we were still trying to do free trade.
Trump is evening the playing field... and it will hurt the EU much more than the US, so they WILL CAVE...
Then, your chosen vehicle won't have any tariff on it.
EU has had high Tariffs on US products for decades, while we were still trying to do free trade.
Trump is evening the playing field... and it will hurt the EU much more than the US, so they WILL CAVE...
Then, your chosen vehicle won't have any tariff on it.
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 24, 2025 07:19 PM (QAkQ3)
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They stink on ice.
Posted by: Darth Randall at March 24, 2025 07:19 PM (1VaPO)
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But we don't do that. We bend over backwards to allow foreign products to be sold here. So even if tariffs were even, we'd still be getting screwed.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 24, 2025 07:17 PM (uCjyK)
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Once the means of production are on American soil, their ownership can be altered if international events require it.
Brick and mortar matter.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 24, 2025 07:17 PM (uCjyK)
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Once the means of production are on American soil, their ownership can be altered if international events require it.
Brick and mortar matter.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 24, 2025 07:19 PM (ZOv7s)
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Really?
My grandmother, God rest her soul... couldn't figure out how to use an ATM. She relied on my grandfather to operate anything that had electricity running through it - which caused me to go to their house and "fix the computer" at least once a week.
Posted by: Defenestratus at March 24, 2025 07:17 PM (WYStd)
Well, then, good thing she had you around.
I'm inconvenienced all the time in my daily life by companies and the government. I'm not going to get worked up about social security phone call centers and scams and old people not using computers.
Figure it out, it's 2025. Or ask your loving grandson to set it up for you. Or even go to the local library -- helping old people use technology is half of the librarian's job these days.
My grandmother, God rest her soul... couldn't figure out how to use an ATM. She relied on my grandfather to operate anything that had electricity running through it - which caused me to go to their house and "fix the computer" at least once a week.
Posted by: Defenestratus at March 24, 2025 07:17 PM (WYStd)
Well, then, good thing she had you around.
I'm inconvenienced all the time in my daily life by companies and the government. I'm not going to get worked up about social security phone call centers and scams and old people not using computers.
Figure it out, it's 2025. Or ask your loving grandson to set it up for you. Or even go to the local library -- helping old people use technology is half of the librarian's job these days.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 24, 2025 07:19 PM (uCjyK)
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Tariffs are the wrong tool here...
This sounds a lot like the ol' "but that would take ten years!" ploy.
This sounds a lot like the ol' "but that would take ten years!" ploy.
Posted by: t-bird at March 24, 2025 07:20 PM (tvIQJ)
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But we don't do that. We bend over backwards to allow foreign products to be sold here. So even if tariffs were even, we'd still be getting screwed.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 24, 2025 07:17 PM (uCjyK)
You could still get trade balance by letting them stop our non stinky cheese in exchange for them shipping mini Eiffel towers and crushing the local industry for that. Trump just needs overall balance, not balance on each item individually.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 24, 2025 07:17 PM (uCjyK)
You could still get trade balance by letting them stop our non stinky cheese in exchange for them shipping mini Eiffel towers and crushing the local industry for that. Trump just needs overall balance, not balance on each item individually.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 24, 2025 07:20 PM (n7h9X)
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What’s up with this website today. There is something on the main page that is causing it to constantly reload.
Posted by: Vengeance at March 24, 2025 07:20 PM (Gdqmt)
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to becoming potentially the most conservative generation that we've experienced maybe in 50 to 60 years."
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How much of this is...
Posted by: bob (moron inc
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If my son is any indication, they aren’t conservative so much as believe everything is a scam: government, corporations, religion.
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How much of this is...
Posted by: bob (moron inc
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If my son is any indication, they aren’t conservative so much as believe everything is a scam: government, corporations, religion.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 24, 2025 07:21 PM (k5PtY)
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>> If they are the wrong tool then why have other countries been tariffing the shit out of us for decades?
Because countries are irrational and they want to protect certain industries, but they can’t see the larger impact those tariffs will have.
>> Reciprocal tariffs. It means tariffing a country at the same level they are tariffing us. We should Canada have crushing taxes on things like our dairy products an we don't have them on Canada?
You’re framing it as a moral question, but it’s not. I honestly don’t care much about tariffs either way, but their ability to make us economically self-sufficient is pretty minimal.
Because countries are irrational and they want to protect certain industries, but they can’t see the larger impact those tariffs will have.
>> Reciprocal tariffs. It means tariffing a country at the same level they are tariffing us. We should Canada have crushing taxes on things like our dairy products an we don't have them on Canada?
You’re framing it as a moral question, but it’s not. I honestly don’t care much about tariffs either way, but their ability to make us economically self-sufficient is pretty minimal.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 24, 2025 07:21 PM (l3YAf)
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nood cafe
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 24, 2025 07:21 PM (uCjyK)
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Now I can see the retort: "Oh boo hoo the European luxuy car maker is going to get shafted". Yes well you'll also shaft the American consumers who like and want them.
Posted by: Defenestratus at March 24, 2025 07:08 PM (WYStd)
German manufacturers are already moving to the US before any tariffs because the economic, greenie and labor requirements make it impossible to build anything profitably in Germany. The tariffs are just one more thing, and only one of the problems VW and Daimler can solve by moving to the US.
There are also German steel companies that are shopping out manufacturing to US firms because the US has cheaper steel and labor, even if they both buy from China.
Posted by: Defenestratus at March 24, 2025 07:08 PM (WYStd)
German manufacturers are already moving to the US before any tariffs because the economic, greenie and labor requirements make it impossible to build anything profitably in Germany. The tariffs are just one more thing, and only one of the problems VW and Daimler can solve by moving to the US.
There are also German steel companies that are shopping out manufacturing to US firms because the US has cheaper steel and labor, even if they both buy from China.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 24, 2025 07:21 PM (D7oie)
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The problem the Democrats have is that a large swath of their votes have BOUGHT their stupid propaganda about Trump and Elon being Literally Hitler, and ACTUALLY BELIEVE IT.
That's their problem. The Democrats know they're grandstanding with nonsense but too many of their base actually believe it.
That's their problem. The Democrats know they're grandstanding with nonsense but too many of their base actually believe it.
Posted by: DudeAbiding at March 24, 2025 07:21 PM (lCHt6)
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293 Yeah, 20 Years, here.
I was but a wee babe when I began doing Ace.
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 24, 2025 07:09 PM (K8QQI)
You've certainly been here as long as I can remember. Congrats on the 20 year hordeversary.
I'm trying to remember when I, as a young man, first stumbled upon ace. 2009 or so probably.
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I wish there were a way to determine when my first post here was?
I was but a wee babe when I began doing Ace.
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 24, 2025 07:09 PM (K8QQI)
You've certainly been here as long as I can remember. Congrats on the 20 year hordeversary.
I'm trying to remember when I, as a young man, first stumbled upon ace. 2009 or so probably.
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I wish there were a way to determine when my first post here was?
Posted by: Crusader at March 24, 2025 07:21 PM (TN0g+)
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Elon Musk @elonmusk 2h
Best place to hide a dead body is page 2 of The Atlantic magazine, because no one ever goes there
Shashank Joshi @shashj 15m [Economist dick]
Sorry, we may have inadvertently suggested that placing classified information on unclassified systems was a grave breach of protocol & law, and a resigning offence. What we actually meant to say was that it’s just banter & very funny indeed.
Matthew Gertz @MattGertz 4h
Pete Hegseth in 2016: "The people we rely on to do dangerous and difficult things for us rely on one thing from us: That we will not... be reckless with the dangerous things they are doing for us. That's the national security implications of a private server that's unsecured."
Best place to hide a dead body is page 2 of The Atlantic magazine, because no one ever goes there
Shashank Joshi @shashj 15m [Economist dick]
Sorry, we may have inadvertently suggested that placing classified information on unclassified systems was a grave breach of protocol & law, and a resigning offence. What we actually meant to say was that it’s just banter & very funny indeed.
Matthew Gertz @MattGertz 4h
Pete Hegseth in 2016: "The people we rely on to do dangerous and difficult things for us rely on one thing from us: That we will not... be reckless with the dangerous things they are doing for us. That's the national security implications of a private server that's unsecured."
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 24, 2025 07:22 PM (/tzYP)
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Somebody should tell PDT that tariffs are not the answer and he should try something else. Maybe a stern letter is in order.
Posted by: fd at March 24, 2025 07:22 PM (vFG9F)
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I think they can set up a login.gov account.
I just tried the other night. It took about two minutes for them to decide, "sorry, we can't confirm your identity." and... that was that. Strangest process I've seen.
I just tried the other night. It took about two minutes for them to decide, "sorry, we can't confirm your identity." and... that was that. Strangest process I've seen.
Posted by: t-bird at March 24, 2025 07:23 PM (xRgqO)
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Hegseth said no war plans were texted. ????
Posted by: Jen the original at March 24, 2025 07:23 PM (mDKiE)
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What’s up with this website today. There is something on the main page that is causing it to constantly reload.
Posted by: Vengeance at March 24, 2025 07:20 PM
I would guess it's King Harv fucking a bear and wrestling an Eskimo woman.
Posted by: Vengeance at March 24, 2025 07:20 PM
I would guess it's King Harv fucking a bear and wrestling an Eskimo woman.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 24, 2025 07:23 PM (jc0TO)
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U.S. President Donald Trump has decided to pick Dr. Susan Monarez to be the new nominee to head the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. - CBS
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I recall she was massively anti-WuFlu "vaccines".
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 24, 2025 07:17 PM (/tzYP)
Oh no! Susan Collins is going to use her super duper powers to keep her from getting confirmed.
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I recall she was massively anti-WuFlu "vaccines".
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 24, 2025 07:17 PM (/tzYP)
Oh no! Susan Collins is going to use her super duper powers to keep her from getting confirmed.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 24, 2025 07:23 PM (dGCAG)
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Figure it out, it's 2025. Or ask your loving grandson to set it up for you. Or even go to the local library -- helping old people use technology is half of the librarian's job these days.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 24, 2025 07:19 PM (uCjyK)
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Very few elderly change their accounts. Hell very few people of any age change their accounts.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 24, 2025 07:19 PM (uCjyK)
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Very few elderly change their accounts. Hell very few people of any age change their accounts.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 24, 2025 07:23 PM (k5PtY)
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Jennifer Griffin @JenGriffinFNC 6h
The Trump administration does not deny this Signal group chat about the war planning for the Yemen strikes is real. Trump’s top national security advisers added reporter @JeffreyGoldberg @TheAtlantic to the war planning text chain on non-government social media app, perhaps breaking secrecy laws. Read this shocking story below.
Jennifer Griffin @JenGriffinFNC 6h
NSC statement:
"At this time, the message thread that was reported appears to be authentic, and we are reviewing how an inadvertent number was added to the chain. The thread is a demonstration of the deep and thoughtful policy coordination between senior officials. The ongoing success of the Houthi operation demonstrates that there were no threats to our servicemembers or our national security." - NSC Spokesman Brian Hughes
Mar 24, 2025 · 5:18 PM UTC
The Trump administration does not deny this Signal group chat about the war planning for the Yemen strikes is real. Trump’s top national security advisers added reporter @JeffreyGoldberg @TheAtlantic to the war planning text chain on non-government social media app, perhaps breaking secrecy laws. Read this shocking story below.
Jennifer Griffin @JenGriffinFNC 6h
NSC statement:
"At this time, the message thread that was reported appears to be authentic, and we are reviewing how an inadvertent number was added to the chain. The thread is a demonstration of the deep and thoughtful policy coordination between senior officials. The ongoing success of the Houthi operation demonstrates that there were no threats to our servicemembers or our national security." - NSC Spokesman Brian Hughes
Mar 24, 2025 · 5:18 PM UTC
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 24, 2025 07:25 PM (/tzYP)
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The early non-nooding commenters in the Café don't care if you join them.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 24, 2025 07:25 PM (a3Q+t)
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Harry Paratestes excepted.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 24, 2025 07:27 PM (a3Q+t)
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331 The early non-nooding commenters in the Café don't care if you join them.
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Bastards!!!!
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Bastards!!!!
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 24, 2025 07:27 PM (/tzYP)
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>>You’re framing it as a moral question, but it’s not. I honestly don’t care much about tariffs either way, but their ability to make us economically self-sufficient is pretty minimal.
No, I'm framing it as an economic issue. Diary is a big industry but ours has been effectively prohibited in the Canadian market while they are free to ship their stuff to our market. That's not morality. It's also not free trade.
Our foreign trade has been out of whack for years. It needs to be equalized. If other countries would remove their tariffs this would not be an issue so Trump is saying if you won't remove yours we will put the same tariffs on your products.
Yea, it will hurt for some products until an agreement is made and everyone kind find some product that is going to cause them some pain but the issue is to make the playing field fair. If we don't we will lose even more manufacturing industries. It's not morality, it's economic.
No, I'm framing it as an economic issue. Diary is a big industry but ours has been effectively prohibited in the Canadian market while they are free to ship their stuff to our market. That's not morality. It's also not free trade.
Our foreign trade has been out of whack for years. It needs to be equalized. If other countries would remove their tariffs this would not be an issue so Trump is saying if you won't remove yours we will put the same tariffs on your products.
Yea, it will hurt for some products until an agreement is made and everyone kind find some product that is going to cause them some pain but the issue is to make the playing field fair. If we don't we will lose even more manufacturing industries. It's not morality, it's economic.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 24, 2025 07:28 PM (LkLld)
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one of the things that exacerbated the situation of Spain and the colonies was the end of all that cheap money at the beginning of the Napoleonic war, and the increasingly frenzied fights over the shrinking economic pie for the next 200 years.
This is one of the elements that set the stage for the series of coups, rebellions, wild changes in governments, and military adventurism leading up to the Spanish civil war
Posted by: Kindltot at March 24, 2025 07:18 PM (D7oie)
Most of the wealth was brought in as raw silver and gold and brought back as cash. So the local economy, pretty weak in itself was crushed by the huge amount of money supply. With time the cash was dissipated in wars in the Netherlands or the Hapsburg regions or vs France. If they had poured the money into the colonies and shipped product as trade they'd have a renewable source. Spanish colonies were usually make money and go home operations, Englanders tended to stay and improve the colony abroad.
This is one of the elements that set the stage for the series of coups, rebellions, wild changes in governments, and military adventurism leading up to the Spanish civil war
Posted by: Kindltot at March 24, 2025 07:18 PM (D7oie)
Most of the wealth was brought in as raw silver and gold and brought back as cash. So the local economy, pretty weak in itself was crushed by the huge amount of money supply. With time the cash was dissipated in wars in the Netherlands or the Hapsburg regions or vs France. If they had poured the money into the colonies and shipped product as trade they'd have a renewable source. Spanish colonies were usually make money and go home operations, Englanders tended to stay and improve the colony abroad.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 24, 2025 07:29 PM (n7h9X)
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yeah its so good that its canceled.
No more Nissan Titan.
That's not the Titan's fault, it's Nissan's. Their finances are sufficiently garbage that it's assumed they're going to get absorbed by Honda or go out of business entirely.
No more Nissan Titan.
That's not the Titan's fault, it's Nissan's. Their finances are sufficiently garbage that it's assumed they're going to get absorbed by Honda or go out of business entirely.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 24, 2025 07:32 PM (Fp5al)
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ea, it will hurt for some products until an agreement is made and everyone kind find some product that is going to cause them some pain but the issue is to make the playing field fair. If we don't we will lose even more manufacturing industries. It's not morality, it's economic.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 24, 2025 07:28 PM (LkLld)
The 'prices will rise' is a distraction and not true. The price of Canadian dairy might rise, but then people will just buy local dairy or dairy from a country that has a good trade balance, say Dutch buying wooden shoes while we buy cheese from them at about equal value and the tariffs wound down to fund the government only.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 24, 2025 07:28 PM (LkLld)
The 'prices will rise' is a distraction and not true. The price of Canadian dairy might rise, but then people will just buy local dairy or dairy from a country that has a good trade balance, say Dutch buying wooden shoes while we buy cheese from them at about equal value and the tariffs wound down to fund the government only.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 24, 2025 07:33 PM (n7h9X)
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There are also German steel companies that are shopping out manufacturing to US firms because the US has cheaper steel and labor, even if they both buy from China.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 24, 2025 07:21 PM (D7oie)
Reliable energy is the real draw for them. With Germany cosplaying WWII the energy crunch is real.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 24, 2025 07:21 PM (D7oie)
Reliable energy is the real draw for them. With Germany cosplaying WWII the energy crunch is real.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 24, 2025 07:38 PM (n7h9X)
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I suggest the "Minority Party"
It works on many levels
I suggest the "Minority Party"
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Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
John Edwards Campaign Excuses
John Kerry Pick-Up Lines
Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney
Torments in Dog-Hell
Greatest Hitjobs
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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