Of Course: German Intelligence Rated It as 80-95% Likely that Covid-19 Was Manufactured in the Wuhan Lab (But Kept It Secret All These Years)

From David Strom: You don't hate the Regime enough.

For five years, the Federal Intelligence Service (BND) has assumed that the coronavirus originated in a Chinese laboratory. The BND classifies the laboratory theory as "probable" and is "80 to 95 percent" certain. Since then, the German government has kept secret the BND's findings that the virus originated in the biolab in Wuhan . This is reported by NZZ, Zeit, and Süddeutsche Zeitung.
To date, it remains officially unclear whether the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus is of natural origin or originated in a laboratory. Despite intensive research, no intermediate host has been identified that naturally transmitted the pathogen from animals to humans. At the same time, controversial experiments at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) that supported the laboratory theory came into focus.
Virologists meeting at the foreign intelligence service?
According to reports, several scientists at the German foreign intelligence service, the Federal Intelligence Service, have been meeting in recent weeks, initiated by the Federal Chancellery. The first meeting took place last year, with the participation of renowned virologists. A central topic of these discussions was the possible origin of the virus. According to Zeit, the Federal Chancellery has been keeping relevant information under wraps for five years.

Strom quotes from the Daily Mail, which has additional details:

In Wuhan, the BND agents 'struck gold,' coming 'as close to the origins of the pandemic... as possible in China,' German media Die Zeit reported.
They found unpublished dissertations from 2019 and 2020 that allegedly discussed the effects of coronaviruses on the human body.
Additionally, uncovered materials revealed Chinese scientists had 'an unusually large amount of knowledge about the supposedly novel virus available at an unusually early stage.'
Based on the materials BND agents found and analyzed, they used a 'Probability Index' to measure the reliability of information, which determined the lab-leak theory was 'probable' with an '80 to 95 percent' certainty.
Further, the agents also accused Chinese scientists of actively carrying out dangerous experiments with the deadly coronavirus MERS.

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1 Insert witty comment here

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 14, 2025 02:21 PM (2UnvF)

2 Sponge!

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 14, 2025 02:21 PM (/gVDx)

3 From the bat cave!

Posted by: zombie at March 14, 2025 02:21 PM (pMi6S)

4 Hola!

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at March 14, 2025 02:21 PM (/HDaX)

5 Howdy!

Posted by: Moonbeam at March 14, 2025 02:21 PM (rbKZ6)

6 I told the otters there were nood Germans here.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 14, 2025 02:21 PM (2UnvF)

7 How many people were thrown off of websites for saying what all the Important People also knew.

Posted by: ... at March 14, 2025 02:21 PM (MjxY/)

8 I made the rookie error of reading the headline.

Posted by: zombie at March 14, 2025 02:21 PM (pMi6S)

9 Never tell me the odds.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 14, 2025 02:22 PM (vDK5Y)

10 When a German chimes in on mass killing, you should probably hear them out.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at March 14, 2025 02:22 PM (k/U8Z)

11 Jeebus, how is it I came to that decision years ago?

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 14, 2025 02:23 PM (pLaQB)

12 Put on some leather pants or something, Heimey.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 14, 2025 02:23 PM (vDK5Y)

13 Are these nude germans like Bismark taking a bath or Claudia Schiffer?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 02:23 PM (2VST1)

14 I told the otters there were nood Germans here.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

So where is she? Where is the nude Claudia Schiffer?

Posted by: Bulg at March 14, 2025 02:24 PM (77rzZ)

15 The thing the Germans did not say was whether the leak was an accident or an operation. Stuff to think about.

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 14, 2025 02:24 PM (pLaQB)

16 Anyone involved in gain of function research deserves life in prison. They're all psychopaths.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 14, 2025 02:24 PM (2UnvF)

17 Five minutes alone in a room with Fauxi. Is that too much to ask?

Posted by: creeper at March 14, 2025 02:24 PM (M6moH)

18 For five years, the Federal Intelligence Service (BND) has assumed that the coronavirus originated in a Chinese laboratory. The BND classifies the laboratory theory as "probable" and is "80 to 95 percent" certain.

Yeah, but the other, minority theory in German intel was that the WuTang Clan was responsible for Covid. So not sure ze Germans should be trusted.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - super straight at March 14, 2025 02:24 PM (2wadn)

19 Never forget that Cuomo and other Chinese sleeper agents in the US Government kept repeating that Covid-19 originated in ITALY, for god's sake.

If it wasn[t for all the other scandals, the Covid coverup would be the scandal of the century.

Posted by: zombie at March 14, 2025 02:24 PM (pMi6S)

20 Serious question:

Whatever happened to those "receptors" or something they found on the CV19 virus that were clearly manufactured and couldn't possibly have occurred naturally. I thought that was the smoking gun that proved beyond doubt CV19 was made in a lab.

It would be like a doctor opening up a patient and finding Terminator robotics inside.

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 14, 2025 02:24 PM (iFTx/)

21 happy Pi day!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

So, today's never gonna end?
Posted by: Bulg

Never ends, but never repeats, so better than Groundhog Day.

Posted by: mikeski at March 14, 2025 02:25 PM (IWe3t)

22 You don't hate these "intelligence agencies" enough. Whether the Krauts or ours.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at March 14, 2025 02:25 PM (quqPW)

23 Good afternoon Ace and everyone

Posted by: Skip i at March 14, 2025 02:25 PM (fwDg9)

24 I guess the statute of limitations on dumbfuckery has expired so everyone can now say... "yea, we always knew this was all bullshit, but kept it quite for reasons."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 14, 2025 02:25 PM (Q4IgG)

25 After careful multivariant analysis I can state, with an 80%+ certainty, that water is wet and that fire will burn you.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 14, 2025 02:25 PM (jc0TO)

26 I think itvwas a plot to downfall Trump all along

Posted by: Skip i at March 14, 2025 02:25 PM (fwDg9)

27 26 I think itvwas a plot to downfall Trump all along
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You think?

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 14, 2025 02:26 PM (pLaQB)

28 It's funny that there hasn't been so much as a peep about retribution of any sort against China. From anywhere in the fucking world.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at March 14, 2025 02:26 PM (quqPW)

29 > Whatever happened to those "receptors" or something they found on the CV19 virus that were clearly manufactured and couldn't possibly have occurred naturally.

The "furin cleavage site?"

Posted by: bonhomme at March 14, 2025 02:26 PM (lIio7)

30 Hi Skip.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 14, 2025 02:27 PM (lIio7)

31 Scientific truth? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE SCIENTIFIC TRUTH!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at March 14, 2025 02:27 PM (L/fGl)

32
We threw the director of the Wuhan Virus Institute off the roof. What more do you want?

Posted by: CCP at March 14, 2025 02:27 PM (qsezt)

33 Not even a tsk! tsk!

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at March 14, 2025 02:27 PM (quqPW)

34 As someone said " good thing for Merkel that the bar for "worst German leader " is so high"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 14, 2025 02:27 PM (2Km7O)

35 28 It's funny that there hasn't been so much as a peep about retribution of any sort against China. From anywhere in the fucking world.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at March 14, 2025 02:26 PM (quqPW)

Yeah. We should at least rename General Tso's Chicken as Freedom Chicken.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - super straight at March 14, 2025 02:27 PM (2wadn)

36 What's in it for any government to be honest about anything?

An important question since forever.

Posted by: Gref at March 14, 2025 02:27 PM (aBgBM)

37 I think itvwas a plot to downfall Trump all along

Posted by: Skip i at March 14, 2025 02:25 PM (fwDg9)
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I think it was an eff up by the Chinese - who have a very relaxed attitude toward safety - that was seized upon by American Reds to torpedo the Trump economy and institute ~~fraud~~ voting by mail in addition.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 02:27 PM (YqDXo)

38 26 I think itvwas a plot to downfall Trump all along
Posted by: Skip

The virus itself was a Chinese bioweapon that spun out of control.

The RESPONSE to the virus was an attempt to derail Trump's re-election, which yet again spun out of control.

Posted by: zombie at March 14, 2025 02:27 PM (pMi6S)

39 Don't worry. Roberts will rule that Chi nah can't be sued for killing a million Americans.

Posted by: torabora at March 14, 2025 02:27 PM (bVLn/)

40 Whatever happened to those "receptors" or something they found on the CV19 virus that were clearly manufactured and couldn't possibly have occurred naturally.

The "furin cleavage site?"
Posted by: bonhomme at March 14, 2025 02:26 PM (lIio7)
______

That sounds OF-y but yet it was something like that.

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 14, 2025 02:27 PM (iFTx/)

41 >>>They found unpublished dissertations from 2019 and 2020 that allegedly discussed the effects of coronaviruses on the human body.

>>>Additionally, uncovered materials revealed Chinese scientists had 'an unusually large amount of knowledge about the supposedly novel virus available at an unusually early stage.'

If this were a simple murder investigation, there would be enough to convict beyond a reasonable doubt.

Our Stasi seized some poor J6 political prisoner's LEGO set of the Capitol as some sort of evidence of a conspiracy.

It's all political BS, and there will never be consequences, because we funded it, we knew about it, and our own government performed most of the most heinous acts against our own citizens including forced medical experiments without informed consent and destruction of property and lives.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 14, 2025 02:28 PM (/gVDx)

42 I don't want to hear about any fur in cleavage.

Posted by: Bulg at March 14, 2025 02:28 PM (77rzZ)

43 > It's funny that there hasn't been so much as a peep about retribution of any sort against China. From anywhere in the fucking world.
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Maybe China has a version of SARS-CoV-19 (or something similar) that really is the snizz.

So shut up. Or else.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 14, 2025 02:28 PM (Q4IgG)

44 If it wasn[t for all the other scandals, the Covid coverup would be the scandal of the century.
Posted by: zombie at March 14, 2025 02:24 PM (pMi6S)

America and China launched a bioweapon that killed millions, then used it as the springboard to steal an election here and start a major war elsewhere.

It is almost without a doubt the biggest scandal in the history of the civilized world.

Posted by: ... at March 14, 2025 02:28 PM (MjxY/)

45 The virus itself was a Chinese bioweapon that spun out of control.

The RESPONSE to the virus was an attempt to derail Trump's re-election, which yet again spun out of control.

That is my read as well, it got out of the lab by accident, and was chosen as a way to destroy the economy and get Trump out of office... and it failed, so they had to cheat insanely hard to beat him anyway.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 02:28 PM (2VST1)

46
Me: Doctor, I'm afraid of pie
Doctor: That's irrational

Me: Doctor, I think I'm a fraction
Doctor: Why?
Me: Because I'm 2/10
Doctor: That's rational

Posted by: haffhowershower at March 14, 2025 02:29 PM (NMT5x)

47 Oh and throw the fake vax in for good measure. Yes. Biggest scandal anywhere ever. No hyperbole.

Posted by: ... at March 14, 2025 02:29 PM (MjxY/)

48 According to reports, several scientists at the German foreign intelligence service, the Federal Intelligence Service, have been meeting in recent weeks, initiated by the Federal Chancellery. The first meeting took place last year, with the participation of renowned virologists. A central topic of these discussions was the possible origin of the virus. According to Zeit, the Federal Chancellery has been keeping relevant information under wraps for five years.

Merkel kept those findings in a dark box right next to German Democracy.

Posted by: mrp at March 14, 2025 02:29 PM (rj6Yv)

49 > Whatever happened to those "receptors" or something they found on the CV19 virus that were clearly manufactured and couldn't possibly have occurred naturally.

The "furin cleavage site?"
Posted by: bonhomme at March 14, 2025 02:26 PM (lIio7)

Yes, the furin cleavage site was very solid proof SARS-nCoV-2 was genetically modified.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 14, 2025 02:29 PM (l3YAf)

50 You know who would've made a good Biden judge? Eric Cartman. "RESPECT MY AUTHORITAY!"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at March 14, 2025 02:30 PM (L/fGl)

51 Pie are round.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 14, 2025 02:30 PM (vDK5Y)

52 28 It's funny that there hasn't been so much as a peep about retribution of any sort against China. From anywhere in the fucking world.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at March 14, 2025 02:26 PM (quqPW)

None against the USA, either. Between CCP and USA we've locked down close to 50% of the world GDP, but nobody is coming after us, and we clearly caused the problem. It's strange.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at March 14, 2025 02:30 PM (jfpS9)

53 The virus itself was a Chinese bioweapon that spun out of control.
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With the most convenient timing possible to the communists here. I guess they just got lucky.

Posted by: ... at March 14, 2025 02:30 PM (MjxY/)

54 I followed several post-docs on social media at the time. These were accounts that did informal discussions of new and topical papers. ("Journal clubs" are a common practice in universities and research labs, kind of like a bible study for nerds)

Early on, in the ones I followed, origin was a hot topic and the data was overwhelming that this was man made. But then that Origins paper came out and about that time all the people I followed went dark. It was very clear that their PI or adviser told them to fall in line and *never* go against the industry that funds them.

My point is that the entire research industry is corrupt and needs to be shut down. Pharmacology, virology, medical research,... the few good men among them were fired and the rest are dirty.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at March 14, 2025 02:31 PM (bT5mv)

55 I don't want to hear about any fur in cleavage.
Posted by: Bulg

* pouts *

Posted by: Raquel Welch, 1M years BC at March 14, 2025 02:31 PM (IWe3t)

56 My favorite bullcrap line about the Wuhan Flu: It came from Italy! How can we blame the Chinese??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 02:31 PM (2VST1)

57 The most hilarious thing to come out of the China Flu Debacle was early on Nancy Pelosi wanted to have a "Hug A Chink Day" at some Oriental Hoedown somewhere out in Commifornia just to prove how safe yellow people were.

Posted by: Phuck Long at March 14, 2025 02:31 PM (R/m4+)

58 I think itvwas a plot to downfall Trump all along

Posted by: Skip i at March 14, 2025 02:25 PM (fwDg9)
____________

I think it was an eff up by the Chinese - who have a very relaxed attitude toward safety - that was seized upon by American Reds to torpedo the Trump economy and institute fraud voting by mail in addition.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 02:27 PM (YqDXo)
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Yea, I tend to agree. The Wuhan lab was a joke with Mickey Mouse safety protocols. My high school lab was safer and more secure. The "bat lady" is a nincompoop. I don't think CV19 was deliberately released. I think it was a fuck up.

I do think, though, that once China realized they couldn't cover it up, they decided to use it as a weapon to clobber their troublemakers. Remember all those Hong Kong protests? Gone within 48 hours of China's covid lockdowns. Never heard from again.

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 14, 2025 02:31 PM (iFTx/)

59 20 Serious question:

Whatever happened to those "receptors" or something they found on the CV19 virus that were clearly manufactured and couldn't possibly have occurred naturally. I thought that was the smoking gun that proved beyond doubt CV19 was made in a lab.

It would be like a doctor opening up a patient and finding Terminator robotics inside.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 14, 2025 02:24 PM (iFTx/)

________________________

I remember that too. In one case, an Indian Researcher announced that finding and he was promptly disciplined, removed, and damn if I can find any of the articles in the Times of India that I know I read.

Posted by: Orson at March 14, 2025 02:31 PM (dIske)

60 Fur in Cleavage
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The Pretenders. Love that song.

Posted by: ... at March 14, 2025 02:32 PM (MjxY/)

61 I know why American Reds leapt all over the Covid crap - to kick Trump in the balls - but why did most of the rest of the world do so?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 02:32 PM (YqDXo)

62 I don't want to hear about any fur in cleavage.

You're going to upset the furries

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 02:32 PM (2VST1)

63 Fun fact: Merck is the oldest pharmaceutical company in the world. It was founded in...

...1668!

Posted by: Bulg at March 14, 2025 02:32 PM (77rzZ)

64 "Fur in Cleavage" Motorboat muffler.

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 02:32 PM (3l52y)

65 The virus itself was a Chinese bioweapon that spun out of control.

The RESPONSE to the virus was an attempt to derail Trump's re-election, which yet again spun out of control.

Posted by: zombie at March 14, 2025 02:27 PM (pMi6S)

This is the most accurate nutshell. You were an enemy of the State according to Pelosi, if you opposed universal mail in voting.

They needed people dying and ensured that they would die alone by denying them treatments known to be effective to ensure maximum hysteria for their "most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” according to Biden.

They killed people for their cronies' profits and their own political power.

I should stop there.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 14, 2025 02:33 PM (/gVDx)

66 1668. What technology did they have to work with?

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 14, 2025 02:33 PM (vDK5Y)

67 Funded by Ecohealth Alliance.

Posted by: Reforger at March 14, 2025 02:33 PM (xcIvR)

68 61 I know why American Reds leapt all over the Covid crap - to kick Trump in the balls - but why did most of the rest of the world do so?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 02:32 PM (YqDXo)

Pretty sure they wanted rid of Him too...

Posted by: It's me donna at March 14, 2025 02:33 PM (VE6XX)

69 I don't want to hear about any fur in cleavage.
Posted by: Bulg

* pouts *
Posted by: Raquel Welch, 1M years BC

OK, in that case I'll make an exception.

Posted by: Bulg at March 14, 2025 02:34 PM (77rzZ)

70 44 If it wasn[t for all the other scandals, the Covid coverup would be the scandal of the century.
Posted by: zombie at March 14, 2025 02:24 PM (pMi6S)

America and China launched a bioweapon that killed millions, then used it as the springboard to steal an election here and start a major war elsewhere.

It is almost without a doubt the biggest scandal in the history of the civilized world.
Posted by: ...

Your description is accurate, but it has competition for "worst scandal ever" from "Communist revolutionaries infiltrated the US government for decades and hijacked the entire US economy to the tune of tens of trillions of dollars to surreptitiously fund a global communist revolution paid for by the very people who oppose communism." Close call.

Posted by: zombie at March 14, 2025 02:34 PM (pMi6S)

71 The most hilarious thing to come out of the China Flu Debacle was early on Nancy Pelosi wanted to have a "Hug A Chink Day" at some Oriental Hoedown somewhere out in Commifornia just to prove how safe yellow people were.

Cuomo went and had a big march in the CHinatown celebration to show his solidarity with ~~his biggest donors~~ our Chinese brethren. This was to demonstrate how we weren't afraid of them or going to blame them for the seasonal sniffles.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 02:34 PM (2VST1)

72 I do think, though, that once China realized they couldn't cover it up, they decided to use it as a weapon to clobber their troublemakers.
_____________

That, and knowing it was going to clobber their economy, decided to export it to other countries so as not to place China at an economic disadvantage. Everybody's economy was going to suffer to a comparable extent.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 02:34 PM (YqDXo)

73 Whatever happened to those "receptors" or something they found on the CV19 virus that were clearly manufactured and couldn't possibly have occurred naturally. I thought that was the smoking gun that proved beyond doubt CV19 was made in a lab.

It would be like a doctor opening up a patient and finding Terminator robotics inside.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 14, 2025 02:24 PM (iFTx/)

I remember that too. In one case, an Indian Researcher announced that finding and he was promptly disciplined, removed, and damn if I can find any of the articles in the Times of India that I know I read.

Posted by: Orson at March 14, 2025 02:31 PM (dIske)

As I recall, that sequence was a byproduct of using a line of genetically altered mice bred for the particular use of gain of function, that gain being particularly to be able to infect humans.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 14, 2025 02:35 PM (/gVDx)

74 Fun fact: Merck is the oldest pharmaceutical company in the world. It was founded in...

...1668!
Posted by: Bulg at March 14, 2025 02:32 PM

Eye of Newt was their first commercially viable product, Eye of Cod having failed miserably.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 14, 2025 02:35 PM (jc0TO)

75 1. Palestinian protesters
2. Ukraine
3. Covid

Lather, Rinse, Repeat...

*yawn*

I'm out.

Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at March 14, 2025 02:35 PM (Zloi7)

76 The most hilarious thing to come out of the China Flu Debacle was early on Nancy Pelosi wanted to have a "Hug A Chink Day" at some Oriental Hoedown somewhere out in Commifornia just to prove how safe yellow people were.
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Chinatown in SF. She definitely dodged a bullet there.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 02:35 PM (YqDXo)

77 What technology did they have to work with?

Apothecaries didn't even really exist back then. It was just herbs and spices. From the village witch.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 02:35 PM (2VST1)

78 "1668. What technology did they have to work with?"

Retorts. Always with the retorts. And mortars and pestles. They hadn't figured out conservation of mass yet, so didn't bother with weighing stuff.

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 02:35 PM (3l52y)

79 1668. What technology did they have to work with?
Posted by: Boss Moss

The founder was an apothecary, so probably just the known drugs of the time.

Posted by: Bulg at March 14, 2025 02:36 PM (77rzZ)

80 German Intelligence never salted their coded messages with tattletale information so confident they were in their Enigma Machines as unbreakable.

Posted by: torabora at March 14, 2025 02:36 PM (bVLn/)

81 As I recall, that sequence was a byproduct of using a line of genetically altered mice bred for the particular use of gain of function, that gain being particularly to be able to infect humans.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 14, 2025 02:35 PM (/gVDx)
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I can see the desirability of gaining the function of infecting humans. Makes sense.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 02:36 PM (YqDXo)

82 Posted by: zombie at March 14, 2025 02:34 PM (pMi6S)

I will hand that to you. No wonder you're one of my favorites around here.

Posted by: ... at March 14, 2025 02:36 PM (MjxY/)

83 The founder was an apothecary, so probably just the known drugs of the time.
Posted by: Bulg at March 14, 2025 02:36 PM

Dirt.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 14, 2025 02:37 PM (jc0TO)

84 German Intelligence never salted their coded messages with tattletale information so confident they were in their Enigma Machines as unbreakable.

Posted by: torabora at March 14, 2025 02:36 PM (bVLn/)
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You'd think that that salting would be de rigeur.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 02:37 PM (YqDXo)

85
I know Germans are weird, what with eating people and having a language that sounds like a dogfight and all, but do they actually like this stuff? Don't they get irritated by it?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 14, 2025 02:37 PM (lCaJd)

86 @45 "The virus itself was a Chinese bioweapon that spun out of control.
The RESPONSE to the virus was an attempt to derail Trump's re-election, which yet again spun out of control.
That is my read as well, it got out of the lab by accident, and was chosen as a way to destroy the economy and get Trump out of office... and it failed, so they had to cheat insanely hard to beat him anyway.--Christopher R Taylor"

I don't think you can see it any other way. One made-up and supposedly unattainable metric after another put up by the Uniparty, to show that "Trump failed".

Not enough ventilators!! So Trump had several manufacturers repurpose and crank out thousands...

Running out of hospital beds!! So Trump parked a hospital ship off Manhattan, which Gov "Murder the Elderly" Cuomo refused to use, and give Trump a win, and so parked all the Covid in nursing homes..." etc etc etc

Posted by: Zek at March 14, 2025 02:38 PM (5FPX4)

87 Most of the cool chemicals we lifted from HS chem lab were made by Merck. And Mallinkcrodt (sp?)

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 02:38 PM (3l52y)

88 Apothecaries didn't even really exist back then. It was just herbs and spices. From the village witch.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 02:35 PM (2VST1)
****
So Hillary
And her Fusion GPS trolls.

Posted by: torabora at March 14, 2025 02:38 PM (bVLn/)

89 The virus itself was a Chinese bioweapon that spun out of control.

The RESPONSE to the virus was an attempt to derail Trump's re-election, which yet again spun out of control.

That is my read as well, it got out of the lab by accident, and was chosen as a way to destroy the economy and get Trump out of office... and it failed, so they had to cheat insanely hard to beat him anyway.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 02:28 PM (2VST1)

I generally agree, with the caveat that it was an awfully convenient coincidence that the virus came along right when the Left needed to finish off Trump. As did the Chinese since he was making them pay economically for all their cheating in trade matters. And I don't believe in coincidences.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at March 14, 2025 02:38 PM (quqPW)

90 Chinatown in SF. She definitely dodged a bullet there.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 02:35 PM (YqDXo)
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The Chinaman is not the issue here!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at March 14, 2025 02:38 PM (6K6Eu)

91 74 Fun fact: Merck is the oldest pharmaceutical company in the world. It was founded in...

...1668!
Posted by: Bulg at March 14, 2025 02:32 PM

Eye of Newt was their first commercially viable product, Eye of Cod having failed miserably.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 14, 2025 02:35 PM (jc0TO)
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Merck's leeches are the very best!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 02:38 PM (YqDXo)

92 Gain of function in 1668: "More sulfur. Needs more sulfur."

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 02:39 PM (3l52y)

93 >> The virus itself was a Chinese bioweapon that spun out of control.

I wouldn’t say it was a bioweapon. It was a joint US-China effort to research coronaviruses for the purposes of creating vaccines. It accidentally leaked out, and the response was part panic and part “never let a crisis go to waste.”

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 14, 2025 02:39 PM (l3YAf)

94 Fun fact: Merck is the oldest pharmaceutical company in the world. It was founded in...

...1668!
Posted by: Bulg at March 14, 2025 02:32 PM

Eye of Newt was their first commercially viable product, Eye of Cod having failed miserably.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 14, 2025 02:35 PM (jc0TO)

Eye of Pelosi is still too rare to sell.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 14, 2025 02:39 PM (VNX3d)

95 no. I dont believe in coincidence.

Posted by: Black Orchid at March 14, 2025 02:40 PM (Pv3Rg)

96 German Intelligence never salted their coded messages

salt cod >>>>>>>>> salted code

Posted by: Bulg at March 14, 2025 02:40 PM (77rzZ)

97 Dephlogisticated sulfur was choicest.

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 02:40 PM (3l52y)

98 61 I know why American Reds leapt all over the Covid crap - to kick Trump in the balls - but why did most of the rest of the world do so?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Miscommunication within the international leftist community. They Europeans didn't understand that our faux "panic": and the lockdown were just campaign strategies aimed at Trump, and instead took it all seriously, an imitated us.

Then, once their leaders (the Euro Deep State) got a taste of that sweet sweet totalitarianism, they ran with it.

At least that's my best guess so far.

Posted by: zombie at March 14, 2025 02:40 PM (pMi6S)

99 Fauci pretty much admitted a plot was coming in a prediction

Posted by: Skip i at March 14, 2025 02:40 PM (fwDg9)

100 The second biggest hilarious thing to come out of The China Flu Debacle was when the Red Chinamen were going around and welding up the Little Chinese Shoebox Apartments to keep "infected" people locked inside. Everyone knows Red Chinese welds ain't worth a crap.

Posted by: Phuck Long at March 14, 2025 02:40 PM (R/m4+)

101 Chubby little cubby all stuffed with fluff
Willy nilly sillie old dictator!!

Posted by: Xinnie the pooh at March 14, 2025 02:41 PM (PdYsM)

102 Merck started in 1668 with penis growth supplements and cures for male pattern baldness

Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 14, 2025 02:41 PM (2Km7O)

103 I know Germans are weird, what with eating people and having a language that sounds like a dogfight and all, but do they actually like this stuff? Don't they get irritated by it?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 14, 2025 02:37 PM (lCaJd)
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You know what's weird (besides their toiletting practices)? They love to eat ... asparagus, and apparently have asparagus festivals.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 02:41 PM (YqDXo)

104 Nancy, the bug chaser.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 14, 2025 02:41 PM (63Dwl)

105 I think my favorite memory of the Covid era (and there are many)...was when the World Health Organization refused at all costs to say the word "Taiwan."

That was a a clue that even AOC might have latched onto.

My other favorite memory was going grocery shopping without a mask from day one and no one at the store having the balls to try and remove me. But, other shoppers were scolding me non-stop for the next few months. There's something cathartic about pissing off the masses when you know you aren't in the wrong.

Posted by: Orson at March 14, 2025 02:41 PM (dIske)

106 I wouldn’t say it was a bioweapon. It was a joint US-China effort to research coronaviruses for the purposes of creating vaccines.

They were doing stuff (and, presumably still are in other places) that had NOTHING to do with vaccines. You don't doctor a virus to make it worse for humans because you are trying to cure it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 02:41 PM (2VST1)

107 I think I have selective amnesia about how bad tge plandemic was. I don't like thinking about how many shots KTY ss a nursing student and nurse got.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deporte at March 14, 2025 02:42 PM (J5RCE)

108 Miscommunication within the international leftist community. They Europeans didn't understand that our faux "panic": and the lockdown were just campaign strategies aimed at Trump, and instead took it all seriously, an imitated us.

Then, once their leaders (the Euro Deep State) got a taste of that sweet sweet totalitarianism, they ran with it.

At least that's my best guess so far.

Posted by: zombie at March 14, 2025 02:40 PM (pMi6S)
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That's a good guess. A very good guess.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 02:42 PM (YqDXo)

109 Townhall.com@townhallcom
Democrat Mark Kelly makes an EMBARASSING video announcing that he is SELLING his Tesla.
"Every time I get in this car, it reminds me of just how much DAMAGE Elon & Trump are doing."
"I don't want to drive a car build and designed by an a*shole!"

"I don't want to drive a car build and designed by an a*shole!"?

Well, it's no veni, vidi, vici.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at March 14, 2025 02:42 PM (L/fGl)

110 You know what's weird (besides their toiletting practices)? They love to eat ... asparagus

I love asparagus. I mean, I know its basically eating grass but its so good with butter and salt

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 02:42 PM (2VST1)

111 If Covid was the greatest mankiller superbug of all time, and created from illegal gain of function, then why aren't all governments, and so called social justice groups, focused on bringing the malefactors responsible to the hangman's noose at the Hague?

Answer: same reason billionaire leftists aren't selling their soon-to-be-underwater ; ) beachfront homes.

Posted by: Zek at March 14, 2025 02:43 PM (5FPX4)

112 "my favorite memory of the Covid era"

Two weeks of empty roadways. I felt like The Last Driver On Earth. It was glorious! NO traffic in sight, all four compass corners.

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 02:43 PM (3l52y)

113 56 My favorite bullcrap line about the Wuhan Flu: It came from Italy! How can we blame the Chinese??
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Most of China's exports come through the port of Naples, so yeah, it probably did come from Italy as the dissemination point.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at March 14, 2025 02:43 PM (MDua2)

114 World Top 25 bourbon consumption

http://tiny.cc/6bdd001

Could only find up to 2018 due to crap search engine disease.

Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 14, 2025 02:43 PM (/tzYP)

115 Why did they sequence a virus that killed the old and infirm and caused long and short term major illness in the healthy? Why was the sequence already patented?

Why did they cover it up for years and then release a fake vaccine that also caused long and short term major illness in the healthy?

Why did they use the "temporary lockdown" to usher in so-called "mail in voting" with zero say from anyone in the matter including the courts to put a dementia patient into the most powerful position in the world?

Why are they STILL lying to us about 95% of what really happened? Why have no biolabs been shut down? Why is "GoF" still happening if poor grandma was in such grave danger?

Where has a benefit of the doubt been earned at any point along the way?

Posted by: ... at March 14, 2025 02:44 PM (MjxY/)

116
My other favorite memory was going grocery shopping without a mask from day one and no one at the store having the balls to try and remove me. But, other shoppers were scolding me non-stop for the next few months. There's something cathartic about pissing off the masses when you know you aren't in the wrong.
Posted by: Orson at March 14, 2025 02:41 PM

My favorite thing was watching people jog or ride a bike up a lonely mountain road solo wearing a mask.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 14, 2025 02:44 PM (TCLft)

117 Miscommunication within the international leftist community. They Europeans didn't understand that our faux "panic": and the lockdown were just campaign strategies aimed at Trump, and instead took it all seriously, an imitated us.

The fearmongering was too effective, people REALLY bought into it. Hard. Like this stuff was Ebola x Black Plague cubed. I was nervous at first, until the cruise ship and the air craft carrier examples rolled in and I noticed how all the people dying were like 87 years old and in terrible health. Something wasn't adding up.

Then they stopped listing the ages of the victims, which made me even MORE suspicious.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 02:44 PM (2VST1)

118 You know what's weird (besides their toiletting practices)? They love to eat ... asparagus, and apparently have asparagus festivals.

Since we're talking about Germans, they probably like standing around at those big trough urinals and smelling each other's asparagus-tainted urine. I don't judge.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 14, 2025 02:44 PM (xCA6C)

119 "my favorite memory of the Covid era"

Snatching up petroleum stocks when everybody else hated them.

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 02:44 PM (3l52y)

120 I love asparagus. I mean, I know its basically eating grass but its so good with butter and salt
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Hey, come over to my place! I've got a lot of aspergerus!
-- Bill Gates

Posted by: Bulg at March 14, 2025 02:45 PM (77rzZ)

121 If you want to feel the steam coming out of your ears, watch Event 201: A Global Pandemic Exercise, held in New York City on October 18, 2019.

October. 2019.

They had a panel of nomenklatura who did a dress rehearsal of everything they did to us during 2020, just 4 months before they declared that we were all gonna die if we didn't stop the world.

Whole thing here: https://tinyurl.com/5y8ycspv

Posted by: Beverly at March 14, 2025 02:45 PM (Epeb0)

122 Retorts. Always with the retorts. And mortars and pestles. They hadn't figured out conservation of mass yet, so didn't bother with weighing stuff.

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 02:35 PM (3l52y)
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The funny thing is that chemists haven't used retorts in many many decades, despite their showing up in TV lab scenes.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 02:45 PM (YqDXo)

123 Your description is accurate, but it has competition for "worst scandal ever" from "Communist revolutionaries infiltrated the US government for decades and hijacked the entire US economy to the tune of tens of trillions of dollars to surreptitiously fund a global communist revolution paid for by the very people who oppose communism." Close call.
Posted by: zombie at March 14, 2025 02:34 PM (pMi6S)

True, covid was just a sub-scandal in the Communist takeover of American government.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 14, 2025 02:45 PM (l3YAf)

124 Same thing with Florence flasks.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 02:46 PM (YqDXo)

125 Event 201 was the Oct. 2019 Covid Exercise with John Hopkins, World Economic Forum, World Health Organization, CDC, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, DARPA, all the usual suspects.

Posted by: Beverly at March 14, 2025 02:46 PM (Epeb0)

126 It may have gotten out of the lab by accident. (may. My feeling is that you don't create such a thing with zero plans to use it. It was not a defensive weapon by any means.)

But the Chinese response was a declaration of war. They halted domestic air travel (thereby forcing Chinese to connect through foreign cities.)

They made a clear decision to fuck the world. That was an act of war.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at March 14, 2025 02:46 PM (bT5mv)

127 Which reminds me of one of the bullcrappiest nonsense concepts of the whole "Covid era" : which was to talk about ridiculously high cycle PCR tests, coming back positive for the Rona as "cases."

Spin the cycles high enough, as PCR creator famously said, and you can come up with a "case" of any disease you want.

All part of the Get Trump follow on psy op to induce mass panic and a sense of governmental failure-in-crisis.

Posted by: Zek at March 14, 2025 02:46 PM (5FPX4)

128 The funny thing is that chemists haven't used retorts in many many decades, despite their showing up in TV lab scenes.

That old alchemy stuff looks so cool though

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 02:46 PM (2VST1)

129 They were doing stuff (and, presumably still are in other places) that had NOTHING to do with vaccines. You don't doctor a virus to make it worse for humans because you are trying to cure it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 02:41 PM (2VST1)
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I think you're right about that. I tend to think that the ultimate goal was to try and create a controllable virus that would remove the "parasites" from Chinese society (elderly, infirm etc.)...in an effort to counter the one child rule that skewed the number of producers such that there weren't enough to accommodate the increased life expectancy and medical breakthroughs that created too many takers. Fun fact, mainland Chinese young adults are visibly taller than previous generations from as recent as two decades ago. That has to do with diet, and medicine.

Posted by: Orson at March 14, 2025 02:47 PM (dIske)

130 But of course, just because the perpetrators had a dress rehearsal, doesn't mean it was Planned or anything, peons....

Posted by: Beverly at March 14, 2025 02:47 PM (Epeb0)

131 Germany could just as easily have asked Mengele-Fauci, "Yo, Tony, anything going on in your world?"

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 14, 2025 02:47 PM (Je6Mg)

132 Same thing with Florence flasks.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 02:46 PM (YqDXo)
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I like a good Erlenmeyer.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at March 14, 2025 02:47 PM (6K6Eu)

133 72 I do think, though, that once China realized they couldn't cover it up, they decided to use it as a weapon to clobber their troublemakers.
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That, and knowing it was going to clobber their economy, decided to export it to other countries so as not to place China at an economic disadvantage. Everybody's economy was going to suffer to a comparable extent.
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Covid was designed to be highly contagious not highly deadly. They would never release anything that could potentially kill themselves so they created the narrative that the virus was much more dangerous than it really was (remember the people dropping dead in the streets that only happened in China?). Remember the empty hospitals in the US. The US deep state was in on this. It was all an op, it was designed and intentionally released to get trump. Killing people and making billions was icing on the cake.

Posted by: Wardo at March 14, 2025 02:47 PM (ubMMJ)

134 Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 14, 2025 02:39 PM (l3YAf)

If it was a "leak", there would have been measures instituted to stop future leaks. Because a lot of important people would have lost a lot of important things.

No such measures have been taken. The next "leak" could be tomorrow, and they wouldn't even SAY it was a leak until a few months ago.

IOW if you still think this is a leak, and I say this very kindly, then you have been had.

Posted by: ... at March 14, 2025 02:48 PM (MjxY/)

135 My favorite thing was watching people jog or ride a bike up a lonely mountain road solo wearing a mask.
Posted by: CaliGirl at March 14, 2025 02:44 PM (TCLft)

Retahds wearing masks in their cars all alone.

Posted by: Gonna infect yourself? at March 14, 2025 02:48 PM (5TbUi)

136 Most of China's exports come through the port of Naples, so yeah, it probably did come from Italy as the dissemination point.
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Chinese women doing sewing in Northern Italy for the fashion clothing and e.g. handbag industries too.

Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 14, 2025 02:48 PM (/tzYP)

137 Yeah. We should at least rename General Tso's Chicken as Freedom Chicken.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - super straight at March 14, 2025 02:27 PM (2wadn)

Great Idea!

Posted by: Congressional Republicans at March 14, 2025 02:48 PM (L1JuH)

138 Which reminds me of one of the bullcrappiest nonsense concepts of the whole "Covid era" : which was to talk about ridiculously high cycle PCR tests, coming back positive for the Rona as "cases."

Yeah that is one of the more suspicious things about DNA right now. Everyone treats it as the absolute gold standard of forensic proof but... the way they do it is highly sketchy to me. You only have a tiny sample? That's okay, just grow your own DNA by replicating it in a lab until you have enough to test! Um... are you sure. that... SHUT UP YOU HATE SCIENCE!!!!!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 02:48 PM (2VST1)

139 > The virus itself was a Chinese bioweapon that spun out of control.
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It could certainly explain why the virus behaved the way it did, affected people in certain ways.

And explain why treatment/vaccines seemed to result in some seriously hard to explain side effects unless the virus and/or treatments were all part and parcel of the bioweapon.

All presuming my tinfoil hat isn't on too tight.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 14, 2025 02:48 PM (Q4IgG)

140 Democrat Mark Kelly makes an EMBARASSING video announcing that he is SELLING his Tesla.
"Every time I get in this car, it reminds me of just how much DAMAGE Elon & Trump are doing."
"I don't want to drive a car build and designed by an a*shole!"

I guess that leaves us out too.

Posted by: Zombie Henry Ford, All Kinds Of Asshole at March 14, 2025 02:48 PM (R/m4+)

141 I still use a retort when preparing fixed air. Only one thing to clean afterward. Nothing like a breath of fixed air.

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 02:48 PM (3l52y)

142 Covid was designed to be highly contagious not highly deadly. They would never release anything that could potentially kill themselves so they created the narrative that the virus was much more dangerous than it really was (remember the people dropping dead in the streets that only happened in China?). Remember the empty hospitals in the US. The US deep state was in on this. It was all an op, it was designed and intentionally released to get trump. Killing people and making billions was icing on the cake.

repeating this bc Wardo is correct.

that is what happened and is still mostly happening.

Posted by: Black Orchid at March 14, 2025 02:48 PM (Pv3Rg)

143 Yeah. We should at least rename General Tso's Chicken as Freedom Chicken.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - super straight at March 14, 2025 02:27 PM (2wadn)

Great Idea!
Posted by: Congressional Republicans at March 14, 2025 02:48 PM (L1JuH)

Trump's Chicken

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 14, 2025 02:48 PM (VNX3d)

144 Asparagus is disgusting.

Posted by: SFGoth at March 14, 2025 02:48 PM (KAi1n)

145 My favorite thing was watching people jog or ride a bike up a lonely mountain road solo wearing a mask.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 14, 2025 02:44 PM (TCLft)
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My favorite was running along the side of a street, and a gal coming the other way actually walked out into the middle of the street to avoid me. It would have been ironic if she'd gotten run over.

Did she seriously think someone running for distance was likely to have a respiratory disease?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 02:49 PM (YqDXo)

146 Your description is accurate, but it has competition for "worst scandal ever" from "Communist revolutionaries infiltrated the US government for decades and hijacked the entire US economy to the tune of tens of trillions of dollars to surreptitiously fund a global communist revolution paid for by the very people who oppose communism." Close call.
Posted by: zombie at March 14, 2025 02:34 PM (pMi6S)

That is spot on!

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at March 14, 2025 02:49 PM (quqPW)

147 Bill sure loves vaccines, especially the ones he gives to those poor people in African countries.

"The foundation in 1999 funded an institute at John Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health called the Bill & Melinda Gates Institute for Population and Reproductive Health.Aug 23, 2022"

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 14, 2025 02:49 PM (PMtkd)

148 21 happy Pi day!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

So, today's never gonna end?
Posted by: Bulg

Never ends, but never repeats, so better than Groundhog Day.

Posted by: mikeski at March 14, 2025 02:25 PM (IWe3t)
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It might end when the banana splits.

Posted by: Ciampino - Wear Jimminy Jockstraps at March 14, 2025 02:50 PM (KjLnc)

149 Nobody seems to remember but the Chinese back in the 90s declared "Cyber war" on the west, especially the USA. Seriously, it was an official declaration from their government. Bill Clinton responded by giving them a bunch of our tech for "Buddhist donations."

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 02:50 PM (2VST1)

150 Covid was designed to be highly contagious not highly deadly
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Turns out the "highly deadly" part was the FDA approved treatments.

Like the massive reduction in prescribed antibiotics around May 2020.

Posted by: Boron Quidquid - single moms, your children are a detriment, not a benefit at March 14, 2025 02:50 PM (ea6BO)

151 My favorite was seeing people in pools AND the ocean swimming with masks.

^true story

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 14, 2025 02:50 PM (PMtkd)

152 144 Asparagus is disgusting.
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Its quite good. It does make your pee smell, though.

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 14, 2025 02:51 PM (pLaQB)

153 I did enjoy going down the supermarket aisles in the opposite direction from the way the floor arrows were pointing. That gave me great satisfaction.

Posted by: Bulg at March 14, 2025 02:51 PM (77rzZ)

154 remember the people dropping dead in the streets that only happened in China?

I still think something... else got out in China and the Wuhan Flu was the cover story.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 02:52 PM (2VST1)

155 OOH, next do vaccines!

Posted by: Max Power at March 14, 2025 02:52 PM (q177U)

156 The angle of the dangle is proportional to the heat of the meat.
Don't let you dingle dangle in the dust,
wear Jimminy Jockstraps

Posted by: Ciampino - Wear Jimminy Jockstraps at March 14, 2025 02:52 PM (KjLnc)

157 The funny thing is that chemists haven't used retorts in many many decades, despite their showing up in TV lab scenes.

I have it on good authority (Hollywood) that every chemistry lab is filled with flasks containing merrily bubbling, fluorescently-colored liquids.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 14, 2025 02:52 PM (xCA6C)

158 It was the vaccines that were deadly, not covid.

Covid had a 99.4 % survival rate.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 14, 2025 02:52 PM (PMtkd)

159 I think some metallurgical processes still use retorts, but not the cool looking ones. They're making coke or some other smelly thing.

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 02:52 PM (3l52y)

160 News Flash: Dateline Berlin

The Federal Intelligence Services (BND) today announced that the attack on the Gleiwitz radio station by Polish soldiers, was in fact a false flag operation carried out by the SS as a pretext to invading Poland.

Posted by: Beartooth at March 14, 2025 02:52 PM (dJimA)

161 Covid was designed to be highly contagious not highly deadly

It has nasty long term effects though. I have never been quite the same health wise ever since. My brother Joel never really recovered and when he got RSV it pushed him over the edge.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 02:52 PM (2VST1)

162 My favorite part was telling Grocery store Karens to kiss my ass.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 14, 2025 02:53 PM (PMtkd)

163
Mark Kelly and the Shuttle program and ISS cured cancer and gave us the answers for solving global warming.

An Astronaught told me so.

So, science says shut up.

Posted by: Auspex at March 14, 2025 02:53 PM (j4U/Z)

164 153 I did enjoy going down the supermarket aisles in the opposite direction from the way the floor arrows were pointing. That gave me great satisfaction.

Posted by: Bulg at March 14, 2025 02:51 PM (77rzZ)
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Yes my family too.

Posted by: Ciampino - Wear Jimminy Jockstraps at March 14, 2025 02:53 PM (KjLnc)

165 . It was all an op, it was designed and intentionally released to get trump.
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One rather large entity took its entire endowment fund and put it in a hedge fund 4 months before the shit hit the fan. Who does that without knowing what is going to happen...

Posted by: Xinnie the pooh at March 14, 2025 02:53 PM (PdYsM)

166 My favorite was running along the side of a street, and a gal coming the other way actually walked out into the middle of the street to avoid me. It would have been ironic if she'd gotten run over.

If by ironic you mean absolutely hilarious, then yes.

Posted by: Don't you think? at March 14, 2025 02:53 PM (5TbUi)

167 Remember all the measures that were taken after 9/11 to beef up "security"? At every airport not just Logan.

Why hasn't that been done after this "leak"? How could we take measures when we were told it was not a leak by people who knew it was?

Why wasn't anyone concerned about how the leak happened, and how to make sure it never does again. MILLIONS are dead and injured not thousands. It was a release.

Posted by: ... at March 14, 2025 02:53 PM (MjxY/)

168 Which reminds me of one of the bullcrappiest nonsense concepts of the whole "Covid era" : which was to talk about ridiculously high cycle PCR tests, coming back positive for the Rona as "cases."
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I like the DIY tests for Covid. I was hospitalized with a suspected heart attack, tested negative for Covid three times, but after very extensive testing the docs concluded I hadn't had a heart attack. It just looked like one.

My cardiologist thinks I had Covid. I mentioned that the Covid tests were negative, to which he replied, "Pffft. Those tests are worthless."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 02:53 PM (YqDXo)

169 All presuming my tinfoil hat isn't on too tight.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 14, 2025 02:48 PM (Q4IgG)

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How about those contrails, eh?

Posted by: Just Lily at March 14, 2025 02:53 PM (WJkDA)

170 I could write a book (as many have) on all the ways my faith in government, media, the IC, public health, law enforcement, etc etc was essentially ground to dust.

But the most disillusioning thing of all was to watch 60+% of my supposed fellow Americans eagerly lick the boot that was just kicking them in the nuts repeatedly, and believing it was for "the greater good." It was like living in a redux of Dorothy Thompson's "Who Goes Nazi" except this time around it was "Pretty Much Everyone Went Nazi."

Posted by: Zek at March 14, 2025 02:54 PM (5FPX4)

171 OOH, next do vaccines!
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I'm still waiting for the Moderna CEO to explain his research teams finding regarding the investigation into why Modernas patented genetic sequence was in the virus.

Has one public announcement and then POOF, disappeared.

Posted by: Boron Quidquid - single moms, your children are a detriment, not a benefit at March 14, 2025 02:54 PM (ea6BO)

172 158 It was the vaccines that were deadly, not covid.

Covid had a 99.4 % survival rate.
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True, and the vaccine can be targeted to certain populations whereas the virus could not.

Posted by: Wardo at March 14, 2025 02:54 PM (ubMMJ)

173 Everything the government claimed about COVID was a lie.

Not a mistake, not carelessness, not "the speed of science".

By 2021 the US government and all the decision makers involved knew:

1) COVID came from the Wuhan lab
2) The clot shot did nothing positive
3) IVM is effective if given early

Posted by: 18-1 at March 14, 2025 02:54 PM (t0Rmr)

174 Which reminds me of one of the bullcrappiest nonsense concepts of the whole "Covid era" : which was to talk about ridiculously high cycle PCR tests, coming back positive for the Rona as "cases."
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I like the DIY tests for Covid. I was hospitalized with a suspected heart attack, tested negative for Covid three times, but after very extensive testing the docs concluded I hadn't had a heart attack. It just looked like one.

My cardiologist thinks I had Covid. I mentioned that the Covid tests were negative, to which he replied, "Pffft. Those tests are worthless."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 02:53 PM (YqDXo)

The tests were so helpful, that Musk had four tests performed at the same time. Two showed he had it; two did not.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 14, 2025 02:54 PM (VNX3d)

175 I do not believe it was a lab leak. I think it came from Obama after he boinked his needle dick up a gay hamster's ass when Big Mike said "Not tonight because my Balls ache"...

Posted by: Franklin Stein at March 14, 2025 02:55 PM (A2iSa)

176 166 My favorite was running along the side of a street, and a gal coming the other way actually walked out into the middle of the street to avoid me. It would have been ironic if she'd gotten run over.

If by ironic you mean absolutely hilarious, then yes.

Posted by: Don't you think? at March 14, 2025 02:53 PM (5TbUi)
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Yeah, that's what I meant. I didn't want to come across as too cold, but going out into the middle of the street for "safety" and getting run over would be pretty funny.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 02:55 PM (YqDXo)

177 @8

>>Jeebus, how is it I came to that decision years ag

I came to that conclusion the second it was know that there was a BS4 Lab in Wuhan working on gain of function work on Coronaviruses, that was roughly the middle of Jan. 2020, so half a decade.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 14, 2025 02:55 PM (XV/Pl)

178 Why hasn't that been done after this "leak"? How could we take measures when we were told it was not a leak by people who knew it was?

Because 9/11 was done by Jihadis, who at least at the time, didn't have much influence in the American government.

COVID came from the permanent bureaucracy and they sure as hell aren't going to let a little thing like COVID 19 change the way they do business

Posted by: 18-1 at March 14, 2025 02:55 PM (t0Rmr)

179 They were doing stuff (and, presumably still are in other places) that had NOTHING to do with vaccines. You don't doctor a virus to make it worse for humans because you are trying to cure it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 02:41 PM (2VST1)

You do if it’s a virus that doesn’t infect humans and you’re wanting to model natural spillover in a lab so you can identify and target specific spike proteins.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 14, 2025 02:56 PM (l3YAf)

180 All presuming my tinfoil hat isn't on too tight.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

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There's no such thing as a conspiracy theory. They're all just hypotheses. Nothing more, nothing less.

Posted by: Boron Quidquid - single moms, your children are a detriment, not a benefit at March 14, 2025 02:56 PM (ea6BO)

181 I did enjoy going down the supermarket aisles in the opposite direction from the way the floor arrows were pointing. That gave me great satisfaction.
Posted by: Bulg

It was the fear in the others eyes when I did it that I found most satisfying.
Some thought they were going to die because some dude went the wrong way in the grocery aisle.

Imagine having the power to make people believe that.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 14, 2025 02:56 PM (/lPRQ)

182 Do you think in the year 1592 they celebrated Pi Day?

(Hint 3.141592)

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 14, 2025 02:56 PM (Gqz3L)

183 170 I could write a book (as many have) on all the ways my faith in government, media, the IC, public health, law enforcement, etc etc was essentially ground to dust.

But the most disillusioning thing of all was to watch 60+% of my supposed fellow Americans eagerly lick the boot that was just kicking them in the nuts repeatedly, and believing it was for "the greater good." It was like living in a redux of Dorothy Thompson's "Who Goes Nazi" except this time around it was "Pretty Much Everyone Went Nazi."
Posted by: Zek at March 14, 2025 02:54 PM (5FPX4)

Way too many Americans have an insatiable lust for sucking authority dick. Just can't get enough.

Posted by: which isn't very American at March 14, 2025 02:57 PM (5TbUi)

184
I like a good Erlenmeyer.

Tonight, let it be Lowenbrau.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 14, 2025 02:57 PM (63Dwl)

185 My personal favorite was being told that law enforcement would be called if I refused to cover my face while in the bank.

Posted by: Boron Quidquid - single moms, your children are a detriment, not a benefit at March 14, 2025 02:57 PM (ea6BO)

186 The tests were so helpful, that Musk had four tests performed at the same time. Two showed he had it; two did not.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 14, 2025 02:54 PM (VNX3d)

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Didn't some politician in Africa test some pieces of fruit, some of which came back positive, some not. So he banned the jab from his country?

Posted by: Just Lily at March 14, 2025 02:57 PM (WJkDA)

187 Of course one of the unstated purposes of the covid op was seeing how far the government could go with absurd mandates and still get the majority of the public to comply with them. And force others to as well.

On that, they were widely successful.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 14, 2025 02:57 PM (Q4IgG)

188 It has nasty long term effects though. I have never been quite the same health wise ever since. My brother Joel never really recovered and when he got RSV it pushed him over the edge.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 02:52 PM (2VST1)

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Christopher, did you get the vaccine, there is pretty decent evidence that what people SAY is "long covid" is a response to the vaccine.

Everyone I know who says they have "long covid" were also vaccinated. They still got covid of course. The vaccine was shit.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 14, 2025 02:57 PM (PMtkd)

189 "I did enjoy going down the supermarket aisles in the opposite direction from the way the floor arrows were pointing."

Our biggest local supermarket chain put automatic locks on the carts to prevent that. The difecta of stupid and annoying.

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 02:57 PM (3l52y)

190 My favorite was running along the side of a street, and a gal coming the other way actually walked out into the middle of the street to avoid me. It would have been ironic if she'd gotten run over.

A few years ago I was driving on a narrow road in my town.

Coming the other way, on the not at all busy sidewalk, was a teenaged girl riding her bicycle. She had a mask that had fallen off her nose, and was busy texting and just barely keeping control the bike.

One especially interesting text and/or bump in the sidewalk and she would have been a smear on the front of my car. But...she was protected from COVID right?

Posted by: 18-1 at March 14, 2025 02:58 PM (t0Rmr)

191 I didn't want to come across as too cold
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Dude, we routinely make Rachel Corrie jokes here. Coldness is welcome, along with cruelty.

Posted by: Bulg at March 14, 2025 02:58 PM (77rzZ)

192 OT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGgpoVYvDzs

Corman's World, a documentary about Roger Corman.

Highly, highly recommended. One of the most entertaining, genuinely emotional, and celebratory movie documentaries I've ever seen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 14, 2025 02:58 PM (GBKbO)

193 Of course one of the unstated purposes of the covid op was seeing how far the government could go with absurd mandates and still get the majority of the public to comply with them. And force others to as well.

I remember when the government shut down churches to protect us from the WuFlu and then proclaimed not only were mass protests fine, but glory holes were too!

Posted by: 18-1 at March 14, 2025 02:59 PM (t0Rmr)

194 One of the things about Covid that I wish would be explained (although I know it will not be):

People’s Liberation Army (PLA) Professor Zhou Yusen, Director of the 5th Institute at the Academy of Military Medical Sciences (AMMS) did a header off the roof of a Wuhan Laboratory Institute. He was known to have been involved with the research there.

So:
1. Suicide in response to the safety failures?
2. Murder due to him making statements that didn't reflect the actual damage done by Covid to China?
3. Murder to shut up this military connected researcher about how things came about?
4. Or the dude is clumsy.

Posted by: Orson at March 14, 2025 02:59 PM (dIske)

195 No funerals, no hospital visits, no church, but you can get marijuana and protest for rappers

Posted by: ... at March 14, 2025 02:59 PM (MjxY/)

196 My cardiologist thinks I had Covid. I mentioned that the Covid tests were negative, to which he replied, "Pffft. Those tests are worthless."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 02:53 PM (YqDXo)

I remember my doctor brother bitching about false negatives.
Had people die because of it.
Then we find out a bunch of tests were cooked up in some bathtub in an abandoned warehouse in fucking Pamona or some shit. Coincidentally by people with very oriental sounding names.

Posted by: Reforger at March 14, 2025 02:59 PM (xcIvR)

197 I like a good Erlenmeyer.

Tonight, let it be Lowenbrau.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 14, 2025 02:57 PM (63Dwl)
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Well, tonight it's gonna be Pelican Brewing's The Brewed Abides, their White Russian-themed stout.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at March 14, 2025 03:00 PM (6K6Eu)

198 Everyone I know who says they have "long covid" were also vaccinated. They still got covid of course. The vaccine was shit.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 14, 2025 02:57 PM (PMtkd)

Which was not a vaccine. Well, until they tried to retroactively change the well-established definition of a vaccine and then gaslight the fuck out us about it.

Posted by: Still not a vaccine at March 14, 2025 03:00 PM (5TbUi)

199 Christopher, did you get the vaccine, there is pretty decent evidence that what people SAY is "long covid" is a response to the vaccine.

No, I never got the shot. I got the crud and fought it off (with the help of an ette who will always be in my prayers) and didn't need it. I think "Long Covid" probably is aftereffects from the shot, but I think the Wuhan Flu did permanent damage as well.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 03:00 PM (2VST1)

200 "I remember when the government shut down churches to protect us from the WuFlu and then proclaimed not only were mass protests fine, but glory holes were too!"

Hey, a** f*cking is our greatest strength!

Posted by: Some Actual Leftist 5 Minutes From Now at March 14, 2025 03:00 PM (5FPX4)

201 149 Nobody seems to remember but the Chinese back in the 90s declared "Cyber war" on the west, especially the USA. Seriously, it was an official declaration from their government. Bill Clinton responded by giving them a bunch of our tech for "Buddhist donations."

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 02:50 PM (2VST1)
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Loral rings a bell.

Posted by: Ciampino - Wear Jimminy Jockstraps at March 14, 2025 03:00 PM (KjLnc)

202

112 "my favorite memory of the Covid era"

Two weeks of empty roadways. I felt like The Last Driver On Earth. It was glorious! NO traffic in sight, all four compass corners.
Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 02:43 PM (3l52y)

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In San Diego County, the average highway speed at rush hour was about 85 mph. No police in sight. I found it strange and sort of interesting, but was also aware that the national economy was being destroyed in the background.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at March 14, 2025 03:00 PM (XeO61)

203 There was no covid in Best Korea.

Posted by: torabora at March 14, 2025 03:00 PM (bVLn/)

204 No way! Next you'll tell me Hitler wasn't overly fond of the Jews.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 14, 2025 03:00 PM (dGCAG)

205 I agree, it was not a vaccine.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 14, 2025 03:00 PM (PMtkd)

206 Bat soup was considered less racist for some reason.

Origin is obvious. I really hope it was not the US. Likely was. The meetings where THEY discuss this crap must be a hoot. "We can make it so they bleed to death through the eye balls".

Posted by: Francis at March 14, 2025 03:00 PM (bbuBP)

207 I just recently had a terrible persistent cold virus, which was at its worst for more than a month, along with some sort of bacterial infection. My doctor kept thinking it was covid, and tested me multiple times. Always negative, to his great disappointment. Finally he gave me a Z Pack, which cleared up the infection and allowed my system to finally get rid of the virus.

He still believes it was covid, all along.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 14, 2025 03:01 PM (Gqz3L)

208 I suspect that the erlenmeyer flask is designed to be harder to tip over. But most folx think it's designed to look cool, and that's fine too.

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 03:01 PM (3l52y)

209
Shall we share our local COVID stories?

In my little town, anticipating thousands of infections that would overwhelm the medical facilities, they took over the fairground and opened a battlefield-like hospital with hundreds of beds at the ready and staffed 24/7 with medical personnel. It served, I believe, one patient, who was there for reasons completely unconnected to hospital overflow -- which never happened. They closed it after six weeks with barely a whisper in local news. Woops! Woopsie! Carry on. Ignore the costs. We meant well. It seemed like a good idea at the time. (tee-hee-hee!)

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 14, 2025 03:01 PM (lCaJd)

210 Highly, highly recommended

One thing I love about Corman is how many really great directors got their start working for him

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 03:02 PM (2VST1)

211 Way too many Americans have an insatiable lust for sucking authority dick. Just can't get enough.

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Thats due to a glut of americans being karens, AWFLs, simps and soys and all the gay boys

its time to bring back the draft including modifying selective service so women are drafted as well

then send them to ukraine, Im sure theyll be willing to fight the russians since they love the ukes so much and wear yellow and blue every day to work

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger: Currently Drinking From the Mug of Lefty Tears at March 14, 2025 03:02 PM (HYKHz)

212 Serious question:

Whatever happened to those "receptors" or something they found on the CV19 virus that were clearly manufactured and couldn't possibly have occurred naturally. I thought that was the smoking gun that proved beyond doubt CV19 was made in a lab.

It would be like a doctor opening up a patient and finding Terminator robotics inside.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 14, 2025 02:24 PM (iFTx/)

Which was information we had in Spring 2020.

Until the internet decided anyone saying such things couldn't be on the internet anymore.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 14, 2025 03:02 PM (dGCAG)

213 210 Highly, highly recommended

One thing I love about Corman is how many really great directors got their start working for him
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 03:02 PM (2VST1)

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He's more important as a producer and usher of talent than he is as a director himself.

But he made some good movies himself as well.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 14, 2025 03:03 PM (GBKbO)

214 It's in the name.

Gain of function.

HTF do people not get this?

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 14, 2025 03:03 PM (PMtkd)

215 "He still believes it was covid, all along..."

That's your Sneaky Covid! There's the kind you can test for, and the other kind that masks itself by not testing positive. Science !

Posted by: The very model of a modern medical man at March 14, 2025 03:03 PM (5FPX4)

216 Everyone I know who says they have "long covid" were also vaccinated. They still got covid of course. The vaccine was shit.

I remember Scotland was one of the few Western countries to publish their total all cause death numbers as most hid them after COVID started.

The Scottish numbers showed at extra .5% of their population died the summer they introduced the clot shot, over and above the previous COVID with no clot shot summer.

Now...its summer so there wasn't a flu or similar - so if it was not the clot shot what caused all those deaths?

Posted by: 18-1 at March 14, 2025 03:03 PM (t0Rmr)

217 Never forget that Cuomo and other Chinese sleeper agents in the US Government kept repeating that Covid-19 originated in ITALY, for god's sake.

If it wasn[t for all the other scandals, the Covid coverup would be the scandal of the century.
Posted by: zombie at March 14, 2025 02:24 PM (pMi6S)

That's because China shipped a bunch of exposed peeps working in Italy out right at the start when they were rushing to expand a small outbreak to a world wide one. I remember how Germany covered itself in Glory by refusing to share any medical resources with Italy -- probably saved lives because respirators were soon found to be fatal.

But I put down that as another example of the perfidy of the EU. The first thing that would has show the usefulness of the shared pool I could think of, and they blew it bigtime.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 14, 2025 03:04 PM (n7h9X)

218 "I found it strange and sort of interesting, but was also aware that the national economy was being destroyed in the background."

When the govt sent out $3400 in free money to every tomdickandharry, whether they needed or not, I regarded that as the pre-eminent sign of the destruction of our economy.

The entire country went batshit nucking futs in 2020. NOBODY did the right thing. EVERYBODY did the wrong thing. It was like we passed through the tail of some noxious intoxicating comet.

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 03:05 PM (3l52y)

219 191 I didn't want to come across as too cold
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Dude, we routinely make Rachel Corrie jokes here. Coldness is welcome, along with cruelty.
Posted by: Bulg at March 14, 2025 02:58 PM (77rzZ)
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I don't know. Kind of felt flat.

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at March 14, 2025 03:05 PM (eb5mD)

220 Two weeks of empty roadways. I felt like The Last Driver On Earth. It was glorious! NO traffic in sight, all four compass corners.

*************************

I went out every day for the weeks since I was given the "stay at home" orders from the state govt, my way of telling them to go fuck themselves

I felt like the Omega Man

Wish I could have that experience again

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger: Currently Drinking From the Mug of Lefty Tears at March 14, 2025 03:05 PM (HYKHz)

221 then send them to ukraine, Im sure theyll be willing to fight the russians since they love the ukes so much and wear yellow and blue every day to work

The people that claimed you were a chicken hawk if you didn't go fight in the WoT personally are currently claiming you are Vlad cock holster if you don't send your kids to go fight in Ukraine.

Not their kids mind you. And not that Vlad attacked the US like the Jihadis did.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 14, 2025 03:05 PM (t0Rmr)

222 The Covid op caused a lot of social damage; in fact, I believe that was one of the goals.

Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at March 14, 2025 03:05 PM (cSvoa)

223 I remember Scotland was one of the few Western countries to publish their total all cause death numbers as most hid them after COVID started.

The Scottish numbers showed at extra .5% of their population died the summer they introduced the clot shot, over and above the previous COVID with no clot shot summer.

Now...its summer so there wasn't a flu or similar - so if it was not the clot shot what caused all those deaths?
Posted by: 18-1 at March 14, 2025 03:03 PM (t0Rmr)
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The MacGregors?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at March 14, 2025 03:06 PM (6K6Eu)

224 It's in the name.

Gain of function.

HTF do people not get this?
Posted by: Seems Legit

To be honest, it's a weird term. Makes it sound like you're making something function better, which sounds like a good thing until you find out the "something" is a virus.

I think it was chosen precisely for that reason, because it sounds like a vaguely good thing. Kinda like saying "pro-choice" instead of "pro-abortion."

Posted by: Bulg at March 14, 2025 03:06 PM (77rzZ)

225 I just recently had a terrible persistent cold virus, which was at its worst for more than a month, along with some sort of bacterial infection. My doctor kept thinking it was covid, and tested me multiple times. Always negative, to his great disappointment. Finally he gave me a Z Pack, which cleared up the infection and allowed my system to finally get rid of the virus.

He still believes it was covid, all along.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 14, 2025 03:01 PM (Gqz3L)

Z Pack is Azithromycin, an antibiotic, which would help with any accompanying bacterial infections.

I am of the opinion that there are lasting complications for COVID that exacerbate any other respiratory ailment.

I don't think that they are well understood, which is what has mainstream providers somewhat flummoxed.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 14, 2025 03:07 PM (/gVDx)

226 There were "checkpoints" between Georgia and Florida and they did nothing but slow down traffic for an hours and piss people off.

I think that goes into the "let's see how far we can push them" category.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 14, 2025 03:07 PM (PMtkd)

227 Which was information we had in Spring 2020.

Until the internet decided anyone saying such things couldn't be on the internet anymore.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 14, 2025 03:02 PM (dGCAG)

I remember when they were trying to sell that Omicron variant and some South African lab supposedly could tell the difference of one from another almost instantly.

Pretty good work while you were all so busy saving lives out there....or you had lots of variants identified at outbreak time.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 14, 2025 03:07 PM (n7h9X)

228 It's in the name.

Gain of function.

HTF do people not get this?
Posted by: Seems Legit

Old people still remember what it was called during the Iraq War days: weaponization.

Posted by: mikeski at March 14, 2025 03:08 PM (IWe3t)

229 You gotta admit, when the Krauts have an intelligence service, they name it right. Bundesnachrichdiesnst/ The only thing missing is the leather trench coats, a blackjack in one pocket, a Walther in the other, and knockwurst and a couple flip top biers in the schnitzel bag.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 14, 2025 03:08 PM (gm9Sb)

230
I think it was chosen precisely for that reason, because it sounds like a vaguely good thing. Kinda like saying "pro-choice" instead of "pro-abortion."

Remember when most of the pro-choice people rallied around the notion that you had no right to refuse a "medical treatment" they wanted you to get?

I still suspect a small part of the reason R v W got overturned was so many "government out of my healthcare" people demanding people that didn't want the government controlling their healthcare be sent to concentration camps...

Posted by: 18-1 at March 14, 2025 03:09 PM (t0Rmr)

231 Which was not a vaccine. Well, until they tried to retroactively change the well-established definition of a vaccine and then gaslight the fuck out us about it.
Posted by: Still not a vaccine

Moderna's own FORM 10-Q SEC reporting said mRNA tech is genetic therapy. June 2020.

"Currently, mRNA is considered a gene therapy product by the FDA. "

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 14, 2025 03:09 PM (mlg/3)

232 By the way, what happened to MonkeyPox? LOLOL

This is the type of thing that makes me want to wear "FUCK THE MEDIA" shirts regularly.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 14, 2025 03:09 PM (PMtkd)

233 It's beginning to look a lot like civil war is inevitable.

The cracks are too deep for Krazy Glue.

The Lies are too big and important to forgive.

Posted by: Sifty Boones at March 14, 2025 03:09 PM (n7GGT)

234 Which was information we had in Spring 2020.

Until the internet decided anyone saying such things couldn't be on the internet anymore.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 14, 2025 03:02 PM (dGCAG)

The term comes from germ warfare so the functions you are looking for are harmful - ease to catch, ease to spread, speed to kill.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 14, 2025 03:10 PM (n7h9X)

235 And this just reinforces WHY we need freedom of speech... and we need the damn Supreme Court to come down on the blatant Government funded and inspired Censorship we had during Covid.

This type of information was OUT THERE.... some people KNEW IT... yet... they were censored.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2025 03:10 PM (QAkQ3)

236
The Omicron variant was very interesting. Seemed to be much *older* than even the original CoV-2 version that first came out.

There is a conspiracy theory that Omicron was just an earlier version they were working on in the lab, not nearly as deadly as the strain that leaked, but yet could confer natural immunity to all the strains.

And thus, the theory goes, it was intentionally released as the real vaccine.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 14, 2025 03:11 PM (w6EFb)

237 Dude, we routinely make Rachel Corrie jokes here. Coldness is welcome, along with cruelty.
Posted by: Bulg at March 14, 2025 02:58 PM (77rzZ)
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I don't know. Kind of felt flat.
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at March 14, 2025 03:05 PM (eb5mD)

The problem is, whenever these kinds of jokes get started, it gets run into the ground.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 14, 2025 03:11 PM (dGCAG)

238 By the way, what happened to MonkeyPox? LOLOL /i]

People pointed out it was only gay men giving MPV to each other.

So then the FNM found a kid that got it and did wall to wall coverage...until it came out the kid had two dads. And that the two dads gave it to their kid AND their dog...

Posted by: 18-1 at March 14, 2025 03:11 PM (t0Rmr)

239 By the way, what happened to MonkeyPox? LOLOL

This is the type of thing that makes me want to wear "FUCK THE MEDIA" shirts regularly.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 14, 2025 03:09 PM (PMtkd)

or this so called Bird Flu. probably invented to screw with Trump by Biden's team. Birds get sick all the time and we never killed 100 million chickens over it.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 14, 2025 03:11 PM (n7h9X)

240 I was extremely dismayed to see how the fear affected so many people who really ought to have known better. Many people here, in fact. Some never recovered. I don't mind being wrong about something and getting better, I used to be opposed to Trump being president. But to cling to the crazy fear long after its obviously an op... that's a problem.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 03:12 PM (2VST1)

241 I was kicked out of an Indian casino for suspicious mask wear (exposed nose) while suspiciously winning.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 14, 2025 03:12 PM (gm9Sb)

242 And I have honest beliefs (without any way of affirming them) that having COVID precipitated my heart attack in 2023.

I shudder to think that I might have been one of those "died suddenly" had I not had a healthy skepticism of the jab.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 14, 2025 03:12 PM (/gVDx)

243 Interesting. My vet was here doing horse vaccines today and somehow we got onto hanta virus and general human resp. viruses and covid. He got the initial J&J vaccine and was going to get a Moderna booster, but got covid a week before, then was going to get the booster a few weeks after recovery before working Stock Show and he said his doctor told him "you should not take any more covid boosters/vaccines, they aren't telling us everything, and you have natural immunity that is as good as the vaccine now".

And I always wonder when stories like this break if it is because they knew the curtain was going to pulled aside and expose them or if they are just releasing "Squirrel!" to distract from their current malfeasance.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 14, 2025 03:12 PM (bP/i4)

244 By the way, what happened to MonkeyPox? LOLOL

This is the type of thing that makes me want to wear "FUCK THE MEDIA" shirts regularly.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 14, 2025 03:09 PM (PMtkd)

Far too few are attractive enough to overcome the Crazy score. Safer to just laugh at them - and drive them further over the edge. Perhaps we should recommend that "news" programs get a laugh track.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 14, 2025 03:13 PM (VNX3d)

245 It has nasty long term effects though. I have never been quite the same health wise ever since.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 02:52 PM (2VST1)
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Same here. August 2021 I was running up a nearby hill, lifting weights, playing baseball, or some combination of three, seven days a week.

September 2021 I spent in bed. Literally. I couldn't walk more than about 30 feet, and didn't eat for 4-5 days at a time. That's when they thought I'd had a heart attack.

Now, after four years of very gradually getting better, I once again am able to run up the hill, and lift weights (if I pace myself). As I said, my cardiologist thinks I had Covid, and have experienced the effects of it since.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 03:13 PM (YqDXo)

246 Insert witty comment here
Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 14, 2025 02:21 PM

Elizabeth Arden Hand & Todger Creme

Posted by: Harry Sussex at March 14, 2025 03:13 PM (a3Q+t)

247 There is a conspiracy theory that Omicron was just an earlier version they were working on in the lab, not nearly as deadly as the strain that leaked, but yet could confer natural immunity to all the strains.

And thus, the theory goes, it was intentionally released as the real vaccine.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 14, 2025 03:11 PM (w6EFb)

Likely the strain they started with, which was well known and ineffective. Other dead ends likely would be less well known and set aside.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 14, 2025 03:13 PM (n7h9X)

248 I remember when they were trying to sell that Omicron variant and some South African lab supposedly could tell the difference of one from another almost instantly.

Pretty good work while you were all so busy saving lives out there....or you had lots of variants identified at outbreak time.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 14, 2025 03:07 PM (n7h9X)

Honestly, the amount of perfidy involved with Covid dwarfs that of the Kennedy murders... and the UFO coverups.

The layers of lies will take multiple lifetimes to unravel.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 14, 2025 03:14 PM (dGCAG)

249 So then the FNM found a kid that got it and did wall to wall coverage...until it came out the kid had two dads. And that the two dads gave it to their kid AND their dog...

Yeah you could almost point to the hour that the monkeypox vanished from the headlines. It was the day that people said "wait, this stuff is passed down by anal sex, how are these guys kids and pets getting it?"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 03:14 PM (2VST1)

250 So I'm seeing on Pop Culture Crisis, Gwen Stefani supporting Christianity and Tucker Carlson.

Posted by: eleven at March 14, 2025 03:14 PM (0HaGk)

251 Shopping carts being disinfected after every user.

Posted by: Ciampino - Wear Jimminy Jockstraps at March 14, 2025 03:14 PM (KjLnc)

252 Why are we protecting these evil and corrupt countries of europe? We can get evil and corrupt right here in the USA.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 14, 2025 03:15 PM (17s+e)

253 And I have honest beliefs (without any way of affirming them) that having COVID precipitated my heart attack in 2023.

I shudder to think that I might have been one of those "died suddenly" had I not had a healthy skepticism of the jab.

The clot shot made some ridiculous multiple of the number of spike proteins an actual COVID infection made. And when you had COVID you generally laid around and didn't do much whereas people were encouraged to go do whatever after getting the clot shot sending those spike proteins cycling through your body to damage your heart...

Of the two people I know killed by the clot shot one died from clot shot induced heart damage. And I remember the FNM running around claiming Myocarditis was no big deal...

Posted by: 18-1 at March 14, 2025 03:15 PM (t0Rmr)

254 There's a measles outbreak in New Mexico schools yet all the kids ARE DOUBLE VACCINATED.

Posted by: torabora at March 14, 2025 03:15 PM (bVLn/)

255 I heard a scientist say that culling the "bird flu" chickens was exactly the wrong thing to do. Like humans, they get immunity too.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 14, 2025 03:15 PM (PMtkd)

256 Under 4 hours to another attempt by SpaceX to launch a crew to the ISS, so the Starliner Castaways might come home.

https://www.youtube.com/live/Nbp-ZRAULvY

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 14, 2025 03:16 PM (VNX3d)

257 Hanta Virus. I remember changing out a lot of sash rope on window weights for my old Polish landlady. Opening up the windows, I encountered a lot of rodent feces, mouse or bats, who knows. Old three story house. I came down with mild virus and earache symptoms.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 14, 2025 03:17 PM (gm9Sb)

258 Bring back the videos of people dropping in the streets and others welding buildings shut. What a joke it all is. Hook, line and sinker.

Posted by: Francis at March 14, 2025 03:17 PM (bbuBP)

259 80 to 95% sure?

*********

I'm reminded of Vinnie Gambino encouraging the elderly lady witness that perhaps it was time that she got stronger prescription eyeglasses. "It's okay, dear..."

Posted by: muldoon at March 14, 2025 03:17 PM (/iMjX)

260 Which was not a vaccine. Well, until they tried to retroactively change the well-established definition of a vaccine and then gaslight the fuck out us about it.
Posted by: Still not a vaccine

Moderna's own FORM 10-Q SEC reporting said mRNA tech is genetic therapy. June 2020.
"Currently, mRNA is considered a gene therapy product by the FDA. "
Posted by: weft cut-loop

It's beginning to look a lot like civil war is inevitable.
The cracks are too deep for Krazy Glue.
The Lies are too big and important to forgive.
Posted by: Sifty Boones

*cough Said All That Shit Repeatedly cough*

Ima be over here in the corner buffing my nails on my lapel.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2025 03:17 PM (WZaJc)

261 "Shopping carts being disinfected after every user."

People here still do that. They pause at the door wiping their carts down, causing roadblocks. No masks anymore, but they still do that.

I do appreciate that people don't crowd in lines like they used to before COVID. Don't get other people's junk pressed against your ass in line like before.

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 03:17 PM (3l52y)

262 There's a measles outbreak in New Mexico schools yet all the kids ARE DOUBLE VACCINATED.

Posted by: torabora
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Like the OUTBREAK in Texas where something like 14 cases? When I was growing up that would be one classroom's worth of cases.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 14, 2025 03:17 PM (17s+e)

263 There's a measles outbreak in New Mexico schools yet all the kids ARE DOUBLE VACCINATED.

Its not being reported very well but almost all the cases are kids that have not gotten the shot. For various reasons.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 03:17 PM (2VST1)

264 They were awfully insistent that young folks and pregnant females take the jab

And those who had acquired and recovered covid - with lifelong immunity - take the jab as well. Profoundly callous and stupid. “Natural immunity? What’s that!? First I’ve heard of it. I’ll look into it.” Says fauci

Posted by: Common Tater at March 14, 2025 03:18 PM (VlVje)

265 I'm not sure what RFKJr is playing at, but the MMR vaccine is without a doubt one of the worst.

FFS, why is he encouraging children to take it?

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 14, 2025 03:18 PM (PMtkd)

266 The government is the enemy of the people.
And some of the judiciary is as well.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 14, 2025 03:18 PM (xcxpd)

267 Most of us over 60 *cough* had measles AND mumps.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 14, 2025 03:18 PM (PMtkd)

268 Dude, we routinely make Rachel Corrie jokes here. Coldness is welcome, along with cruelty.
Posted by: Bulg at March 14, 2025 02:58 PM (77rzZ)
==

I don't know. Kind of felt flat.
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at March 14, 2025 03:05 PM (eb5mD)

The problem is, whenever these kinds of jokes get started, it gets run into the ground.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 14, 2025 03:11 PM (dGCAG)

Maybe she was tired, because she dozed off.

Posted by: haffhowershower at March 14, 2025 03:19 PM (NMT5x)

269 The party of peace, love, and understanding.

https://shorturl.at/rKS6l

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at March 14, 2025 03:19 PM (L/fGl)

270 Of the two people I know killed by the clot shot one died from clot shot induced heart damage. And I remember the FNM running around claiming Myocarditis was no big deal...

Posted by: 18-1 at March 14, 2025 03:15 PM (t0Rmr)

A relative died of heart attack shortly after his clot shot (about 3 weeks). He was same age as me.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 14, 2025 03:19 PM (/gVDx)

271 237

The problem is, whenever these kinds of jokes get started, it gets run into the ground.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 14, 2025 03:11 PM (dGCAG)
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Bituminous aggregate.

Posted by: Ciampino - Wear Jimminy Jockstraps at March 14, 2025 03:19 PM (KjLnc)

272 249 So then the FNM found a kid that got it and did wall to wall coverage...until it came out the kid had two dads. And that the two dads gave it to their kid AND their dog...

Yeah you could almost point to the hour that the monkeypox vanished from the headlines. It was the day that people said "wait, this stuff is passed down by anal sex, how are these guys kids and pets getting it?"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 03:14 PM (2VST1)
______________

Must protect the degenerate lifestyle at all costs.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 03:19 PM (YqDXo)

273 Leave Rachel alone.

She's the salt of the Earth.

Posted by: eleven at March 14, 2025 03:20 PM (0HaGk)

274 Now,I still keep a bottle of hand disinfectant in the car after noticing, in sunlight, what's on ATM screens and the like.Nose pickers! Have you no shame?

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 14, 2025 03:20 PM (gm9Sb)

275 People here still do that. They pause at the door wiping their carts down, causing roadblocks. No masks anymore, but they still do that.

Honestly, they should clean those things more. Little kids barfing and pooping in them, smearing snot all over, rotting food, molding in the plastic, rotting blood from the meat, etc.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 03:20 PM (2VST1)

276 Rachael was D9ed a second life.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 14, 2025 03:20 PM (17s+e)

277 K half wonder if the Clot Shot was also a plan to thin the population

Posted by: Skip i at March 14, 2025 03:20 PM (fwDg9)

278 I've always been relieved that my mother died before covid. She was in an excellent memory care facility and I would have been arrested had they tried to prevent me from seeing her.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 14, 2025 03:21 PM (PMtkd)

279 Now the biggest supermarket hassle is crowding, from order pickers with giant carts, restockers with giant carts, and abundant whole-family-shopping. Try in vain to find an empty aisle to browse.

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 03:21 PM (3l52y)

280 People here still do that. They pause at the door wiping their carts down, causing roadblocks. No masks anymore, but they still do that.

Honestly, they should clean those things more. Little kids barfing and pooping in them, smearing snot all over, rotting food, molding in the plastic, rotting blood from the meat, etc.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 03:20 PM (2VST1)
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Shoppers buying durian ....

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 14, 2025 03:21 PM (iFTx/)

281 And that is why Dr Jay Bhattacharya is head of NIH. He co authored the Great Barrington Declaration and opposed the lockdowns

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 14, 2025 03:21 PM (7PR43)

282 249 So then the FNM found a kid that got it and did wall to wall coverage...until it came out the kid had two dads. And that the two dads gave it to their kid AND their dog...

Yeah you could almost point to the hour that the monkeypox vanished from the headlines. It was the day that people said "wait, this stuff is passed down by anal sex, how are these guys kids and pets getting it?"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 03:14 PM (2VST1)
_____________

Yeah, I wonder. Never mention the public health implications of the homosexual lifestyle.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 03:21 PM (YqDXo)

283
I still don't get why there wasn't a revolt of the scientists. It seems like all of them around the entire world knew the truth. If they'd all stood up, it would have been the manipulative politicians and the superstitious masses who'd have been shamed and exiled.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 14, 2025 03:22 PM (lCaJd)

284 K half wonder if the Clot Shot was also a plan to thin the population
Posted by: Skip i at March 14, 2025 03:20 PM (fwDg9)

Was Bill Gates involved? If so, Magic 8-Ball says "Probably".

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 14, 2025 03:22 PM (VNX3d)

285 "Recent polls are showing that Americans DO NOT LIKE what Trump is doing. He is giving Democrats a massive amount of political ammunition. As we know, his "gish gallop" style of politics makes it difficult to focus on one thing because the next day he's on to three more things. But at the same time, it SHOULD NOT BE THIS HARD for Democrats to come up with some kind of message -- something, anything! -- that makes it look like they have their act together.

Chuck Schumer is our leader in the Senate, and that's where this current action is taking place, and it's not like they haven't had time to figure out how they're going to message this. So I think the buck stops with him on this one."

-- The (real) HMFIC at DU

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 14, 2025 03:22 PM (a3Q+t)

286 Speaking of stupid government tricks:

@gunpolicy 5m
LEGAL ALERT: The en banc Eleventh Circuit has upheld Florida's under-21 gun ban.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 14, 2025 03:22 PM (mlg/3)

287 As I've said a million times before - I will be incandescently angry about this until the day I die.

Posted by: InZona at March 14, 2025 03:22 PM (d6NYJ)

288 half wonder if the Clot Shot was also a plan to thin the population
Posted by: Skip

It was.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2025 03:22 PM (WZaJc)

289 "Most of us over 60 *cough* had measles AND mumps."

I found out I had mumps when eagerly preparing to eat a big box of peanut brittle. Ouch! Dammit.

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 03:23 PM (3l52y)

290 Good God, yall are a bunch of whiners.

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 14, 2025 03:23 PM (W2Pud)

291 Looks like It's on tonight for the space rescue mission

Posted by: It's me donna at March 14, 2025 03:23 PM (VE6XX)

292 I know nnnnnutzing!

Posted by: Diogenes at March 14, 2025 03:23 PM (W/lyH)

293 283
I still don't get why there wasn't a revolt of the scientists. It seems like all of them around the entire world knew the truth. If they'd all stood up, it would have been the manipulative politicians and the superstitious masses who'd have been shamed and exiled.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 14, 2025 03:22 PM (lCaJd)

Groupthink and extortion. Mostly groupthink. I think. Scientists and doctors are extremely susceptible, way more than you would like to think.

Posted by: Herd mind at March 14, 2025 03:23 PM (inktW)

294 So then the FNM found a kid that got it and did wall to wall coverage...until it came out the kid had two dads. And that the two dads gave it to their kid AND their dog...

Yeah you could almost point to the hour that the monkeypox vanished from the headlines. It was the day that people said "wait, this stuff is passed down by anal sex, how are these guys kids and pets getting it?"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 03:14 PM (2VST1)
________

They wouldn't given it to the cat too, but he was too smart

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 14, 2025 03:23 PM (iFTx/)

295 I still don't get why there wasn't a revolt of the scientists. It seems like all of them around the entire world knew the truth. If they'd all stood up, it would have been the manipulative politicians and the superstitious masses who'd have been shamed and exiled.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

Money.
USAID & funding. Get on the wrong side of the moneychangers and you'll never get funded.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2025 03:24 PM (WZaJc)

296 Good God, yall are a bunch of whiners.
Posted by: nurse ratched at March 14, 2025 03:23 PM (W2Pud)

Well, I hear it goes well with cheese.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 14, 2025 03:24 PM (VNX3d)

297 Apparently snot eaters have stronger immune systems.

Posted by: Ciampino - Wear Jimminy Jockstraps at March 14, 2025 03:24 PM (KjLnc)

298 I still don't get why there wasn't a revolt of the scientists. It seems like all of them around the entire world knew the truth. If they'd all stood up, it would have been the manipulative politicians and the superstitious masses who'd have been shamed and exiled.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 14, 2025 03:22 PM (lCaJd)

Scientists are status seeking a-holes too! Probably moreso than the general population.

Posted by: InZona at March 14, 2025 03:24 PM (d6NYJ)

299 "Looks like It's on tonight for the space rescue mission"

Dear God, please keep them all safe. Amen.

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 03:24 PM (3l52y)

300 273 Leave Rachel alone.

She's the salt of the Earth.
Posted by: eleven at March 14, 2025 03:20 PM (0HaGk)

I heard she was a Hard Core Leftist, but I think she was just a squish.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2025 03:25 PM (QAkQ3)

301 Nood.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 14, 2025 03:25 PM (ExV1e)

302
Scientists and doctors are extremely susceptible, way more than you would like to think.
Posted by: Herd mind

==============

Doctors I can imagine, but the research scientists were the ones -- it says 85-90% of the Germans -- who knew the score.

It just kills me that the politicians and totalitarians are never afraid to stand up. Other people are.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 14, 2025 03:25 PM (lCaJd)

303 They wouldn't given it to the cat too, but he was too smart
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 14, 2025 03:23 PM (iFTx/)

They don't like pussy.

Posted by: Self evident at March 14, 2025 03:26 PM (5TbUi)

304 I don't know. Kind of felt flat.
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at March 14, 2025 03:05 PM

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Brie Larson at March 14, 2025 03:26 PM (a3Q+t)

305 "Most of us over 60 *cough* had measles AND mumps."
--

When I was seven got the Chicken pox. Recovered from that and before I got out of bed got the mumps. Recovered from that and before I got out of bed got the measles. I was out for over a month in second grade.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 14, 2025 03:26 PM (17s+e)

306 Are they still thawing out the mobile morgues in NYC? Have they found Jimmy Two Times?

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 14, 2025 03:26 PM (gm9Sb)

307 I came to that conclusion the second it was know that there was a BS4 Lab in Wuhan working on gain of function work on Coronaviruses, that was roughly the middle of Jan. 2020, so half a decade.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 14, 2025 02:55 PM (XV/Pl)

And it was across the street from the wet market where the breakout happened they tried pinning on bats and weasels or wombats. And thrifty Chinese have been known to sell off lab samples for profit in labs, perhaps even that lab.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 14, 2025 03:26 PM (n7h9X)

308 285 "Recent polls are showing that Americans DO NOT LIKE what Trump is doing. He is giving Democrats a massive amount of political ammunition. As we know, his "gish gallop" style of politics makes it difficult to focus on one thing because the next day he's on to three more things. But at the same time, it SHOULD NOT BE THIS HARD for Democrats to come up with some kind of message -- something, anything! -- that makes it look like they have their act together.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 14, 2025 03:22 PM (a3Q+t)

=======

Not even Chuck Schumer believes these polls, but DU still does.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 14, 2025 03:26 PM (GBKbO)

309 Manned Launch and rescue mission

Launch Date: March 14, 2025 (EDT)
Launch Time: 7:03 p.m. EDT, 2303 UTC - March 15, 00:03 CET

https://www.youtube.com/live/Nbp-ZRAULvY

Commentary is live now.

Posted by: Ciampino - Wear Jimminy Jockstraps at March 14, 2025 03:27 PM (KjLnc)

310 286 Speaking of stupid government tricks:

@gunpolicy 5m
LEGAL ALERT: The en banc Eleventh Circuit has upheld Florida's under-21 gun ban.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 14, 2025 03:22 PM (mlg/3)

Sooo... all the Military bases will be leaving Florida?

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2025 03:27 PM (QAkQ3)

311 Gain of Function actually sounds translated from Chinese

Posted by: ... at March 14, 2025 03:27 PM (MjxY/)

312 Bill, Hantavirus doesn't seem to be a thing in the east. Probably the humidity dampens the effect, I'm not just punning. But Hantavirus is a lot more serious than covid unless there are mild cases that never get identified, and it is not some special mice that only live in NM and Colorado that carry it, the common mice that get into houses are carriers, so living in 10% humidity I get germ phobic for mouse droppings and spray with bleach solution before wiping them up. Its kept me alive so far.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 14, 2025 03:27 PM (bP/i4)

313 Dude, we routinely make Rachel Corrie jokes here. Coldness is welcome, along with cruelty.
Posted by: Bulg at March 14, 2025 02:58 PM (77rzZ)
______________

Yeah, there would have been a certain Wile E. Coyote aspect if she'd gotten run over after walking into the middle of the street to "stay safe."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 03:27 PM (YqDXo)

314
And it's Pi time here in local mean time relative to my meridian:

03:28:07 PM EDT
Local Mean Time : 01:59:26 PM LMT (UT1 base)

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 14, 2025 03:28 PM (w6EFb)

315 Bill, Hantavirus doesn't seem to be a thing in the east. Probably the humidity dampens the effect, I'm not just punning. But Hantavirus is a lot more serious than covid unless there are mild cases that never get identified, and it is not some special mice that only live in NM and Colorado that carry it, the common mice that get into houses are carriers, so living in 10% humidity I get germ phobic for mouse droppings and spray with bleach solution before wiping them up. Its kept me alive so far.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 14, 2025 03:27 PM (bP/i4)
______________

Hantavirus is not to be messed with, for sure.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 03:29 PM (YqDXo)

316 312 Pale rider,stuff like that does worry me, having had the misfortune of Valley Fever while in AZ (just had to be a nice guy and dig a little trench because the laborers were busy).

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 14, 2025 03:30 PM (gm9Sb)

317 I still don't get why there wasn't a revolt of the scientists. It seems like all of them around the entire world knew the truth. If they'd all stood up, it would have been the manipulative politicians and the superstitious masses who'd have been shamed and exiled.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 14, 2025 03:22 PM (lCaJd)

Scientists are status seeking a-holes too! Probably moreso than the general population.
Posted by: InZona at March 14, 2025 03:24 PM (d6NYJ)

Some scientists want the limelight like your Sagans. A lot more want regular grants from the government. Its like having the government holding your wife and children in a gulag.

That's why there is a huge problem with bogus research into failed theories. A theory is proven wrong, the theoreticians just jiggle the theory and make it untestable for the next 20 years and they get paid while they wait.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 14, 2025 03:31 PM (n7h9X)

318 Of course one of the unstated purposes of the covid op was seeing how far the government could go with absurd mandates and still get the majority of the public to comply with them. And force others to as well.

On that, they were widely successful.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 14, 2025 02:57 PM (Q4IgG)
==
Though it was a bit of a delayed reaction as I look back at the 2024 election. Still some hope.

Posted by: Black JEM at March 14, 2025 03:33 PM (GZYu7)

319 Gain of Function actually sounds translated from Chinese
Posted by: ... at March 14, 2025 03:27 PM (MjxY/)\\

Don't think so, Fauci was using the term before he shipped it off to China when it was banned.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 14, 2025 03:33 PM (n7h9X)

320 Of course one of the unstated purposes of the covid op was seeing how far the government could go with absurd mandates and still get the majority of the public to comply with them. And force others to as well.

On that, they were widely successful.
_________________

So we were basically playing "Simon Says."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 03:34 PM (YqDXo)

321 "Recent polls are showing that Americans DO NOT LIKE what Trump is doing. He is giving Democrats a massive amount of political ammunition. As we know, his "gish gallop" style of politics makes it difficult to focus on one thing because the next day he's on to three more things. But at the same time, it SHOULD NOT BE THIS HARD for Democrats to come up with some kind of message -- something, anything! -- that makes it look like they have their act together.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 14, 2025 03:22 PM (a3Q+t)

I approve of leftists abandoning politics for stupid reasons. Note that this leftist thoughtfully provides no aid in doing this simple job of creating a message for the Dems.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 14, 2025 03:36 PM (n7h9X)

322
Bring back the videos of people dropping in the streets and others welding buildings shut. What a joke it all is. Hook, line and sinker.
Posted by: Francis at March 14, 2025 03:17 PM (bbuBP)

When the door welding comes up, I always start thinking of the film Right at Your Door

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 14, 2025 03:37 PM (y9nCu)

323 I still don't get why there wasn't a revolt of the scientists. It seems like all of them around the entire world knew the truth. If they'd all stood up, it would have been the manipulative politicians and the superstitious masses who'd have been shamed and exiled.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

All one needs to do is control the heads of various agencies, and the entire flock will do what they are told. A few early examples of scientists disagreeing and losing their jobs was quite effective as a countermeasure.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 14, 2025 03:37 PM (lTGtQ)

324 When I was seven got the Chicken pox. Recovered from that and before I got out of bed got the mumps. Recovered from that and before I got out of bed got the measles. I was out for over a month in second grade.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable

I had the mumps and chicken pox at the same time, so that worked out ok, time-wise.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 14, 2025 03:40 PM (lTGtQ)

325 Of course one of the unstated purposes of the covid op was seeing how far the government could go with absurd mandates and still get the majority of the public to comply with them. And force others to as well.

On that, they were widely successful.
_________________

So we were basically playing "Simon Says."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 03:34 PM (YqDXo)

I don't think that is how it went down precisely given their initial panicking. Once it was out, it was used to attack Trump like 98 percent of everything.

But the issue with the 'test run' is that it doesn't mean that people will react the same way the next time. Even the germophobes over Covid hardly reacted to Omicron Covid, they were collecting boosters like candy anyhow.

The Biden years show that the modern elites don't really plan anything well. Even the Ukraine War and sanctions plan they had was riddled with flaws and failed utterly from the start because sanctions actually boosted the Russian economy from the start.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 14, 2025 03:42 PM (n7h9X)

326 So we were basically playing "Simon Says."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 03:34 PM

We prefer "Drs. Brix and Fauchi says:"

Posted by: Drs. Brix and Fauchi at March 14, 2025 03:48 PM (a3Q+t)

327 Pandemic of the Unvaccinated(TM)

Posted by: Dirac_Delta at March 14, 2025 04:17 PM (AhqRq)

328 >>>Of Course: German Intelligence Rated It as 80-95% Likely that Covid-19 Was Manufactured in the Wuhan Lab (But Kept It Secret All These Years)

But now the governments have lost our trust so why would we believe this.

Posted by: m at March 14, 2025 05:00 PM (CQE5S)

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