A New Beltway Mystery: Follow the Biden EPA Money

Here's what makes this potentially criminal, according to the reporting of Real Clear Investigation's Jim Varney: They didn't just push out billions to their political cronies, but then they covered their tracks attempting to make it impossible to trace the money.

In law, that is evidence of conscienceness of guilt. If you shoot someone while hunting, you could claim that you thought your friend was a deer so you didn't have a guilty mind.

But if you attempt to conceal the body, or flee the scene and pretend you weren't there, juries can infer from your actions that you knew you were guilty of a crime.

When the Biden administration announced $27 billion in environmental grants last April, it set the clock ticking on a predicament: how to get the unprecedented sums for the President's envisioned NetZero future out the door before the fiscal year ended on Sept. 30?

The task was complicated by the fact most of the money -- $20 billion -- would go to just eight nonprofits that, like the Environmental Protection Agency itself, had never handled such gargantuan grants.
In hindsight, it's easy to suspect that corners were cut, or laws were broken, or, at the very least, extraordinary measures were taken.
Those possibilities are clearly on the mind of EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin as he tries to unravel what happened to Inflation Reduction Act spending that the Biden White House's Office of Management and Budget and the EPA decided to expedite before the November election -- an effort that included moving the roughly $20 billion to a private institution, Citibank, away from oversight of the Treasury Department.
On Wednesday, Zeldin moved to terminate the arrangements as the enriched nonprofits have filed lawsuits looking to protect their grants. The battle has thrust into the spotlight what had been a rather quiet attempt by the Biden administration to spend the $27 billion.
The money was put into the Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund, a new entity born in 2022's Inflation Reduction Act, which Democrats pushed through Congress without any Republican support.
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The grants, unveiled April 4, 2024, came with its built-in deadline to push the money out just months away. So a political deal was struck between the White House's Office of Management and Budget and EPA, current agency officials told RealClearInvestigations. As a hedge against future administration attempts to curb the program, the deal classified the now-suspect $20 billion in a novel way making it hard to track.
Zeldin has asked the EPA's inspector general and the Department of Justice to investigate the unorthodox arrangement.

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The fund was broken into three parts. The two largest, the National Clean Investment Fund (NCIF) and the Clean Communities Investment Accelerator (CCIA), received huge sums, totaling $20 billion. Notably, as RCI reported last October, grants went to nonprofits that had paltry assets, had been granted their nonprofit status only the month before, or had people associated with them that had previously served various federal or state Democratic administrations. For example, the Coalition for Green Capital, Wise's former outfit, was awarded $5.1 billion.
Three weeks later, an arrangement was made between OMB and EPA in which the money was designated "non-exchange" rather than "exchange" -- a first for EPA funds, according to current officials. That label allowed for the money to be moved to recipients in lump funds rather than parceled out over the length of the deals with the nonprofits, which in most cases were slated to run until 2029, 2030, or later, records show. It also called for an outside financial institution to manage the money, in part because the agency had zero experience in handling grants of this size.
Although the language in the Inflation Reduction Act dealing with the Greenhouse Gas funds does not use "shall," the word Congress usually employs to indicate that something is required, the law did impose a deadline of Sept. 30 -- the end of the fiscal year -- EPA officials and legal experts agree.
On June 27, as the EPA was making its deals with the nonprofits, Biden had his disastrous debate with Donald Trump, and on July 21 Biden ended his re-election campaign and threw his support to then-Vice President Kamala Harris. The Greenhouse Gas fund money remained unobligated at that point, according to EPA officials.
The deals were finally completed and the National Clean Investment Fund and the Clean Communities Investment Accelerator money was obligated to the nonprofits on Aug. 16, according to a timeline provided to RCI. That left $7 billion, the portion that comprised the third component of the fund, Solar For All.
At that point, the $20 billion, though obligated, remained with the Treasury, officials said. A memorandum of understanding between EPA and the Treasury Department on moving the mountain of cash was not signed until Sept. 6.
Two weeks later, the Republican-led House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee held a hearing to learn more about EPA funding oversight, calling the agency's inspector general Sean O'Donnell to testify. O'Donnell made clear he had never seen the maneuvers the EPA was making with the Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund, and said neither he nor his staff would be able to stay on top of it.
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Yet it was not until Nov. 12, three working days after Trump beat Harris in the 2024 election, that the EPA began talks with Citibank about taking control of the $20 billion, Trump administration officials told RCI. During those negotiations, on Dec. 5, Project Veritas released an undercover video of an EPA official laughing about what he considered an extraordinary process, likening it to "throwing gold bars off the deck of the Titanic."
The Citibank arrangement effectively removing direct EPA oversight, and with interest on the $20 billion going to the grant recipients, was signed on Dec. 27, agency officials told RCI....
Critics of the spending said the timeline smacks of shady politics.
Steve Milloy, a skeptic of apocalyptic global warming, said he has received a government grant and his experience was profoundly different than the one enjoyed by Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund winners. His process was an uncomfortable one that lasted 10 months, he said.
"They crawled up my ass, and that was for a small grant," he said.
The contrast is striking, in his opinion.
"I've never seen anything like this," he said. "It is fishy ... I think they thought they would win reelection and panicked when they lost. It seems like all of this is being done without due diligence or accountability."

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1 More corruption?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 14, 2025 05:45 PM (ExV1e)

2 1st

Posted by: GF at March 14, 2025 05:45 PM (iVUs+)

3 Uh huh

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at March 14, 2025 05:45 PM (tzyLO)

4 Corgis called.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 14, 2025 05:46 PM (ExV1e)

5 They crawled up my ass

REEEEEEEEEEE!!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at March 14, 2025 05:47 PM (tzyLO)

6 Sounds like they need a multi-year investigation of every aspect of their lives.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 14, 2025 05:48 PM (ZOv7s)

7 Thanks, Nixon!

Posted by: gKWVE at March 14, 2025 05:48 PM (gKWVE)

8 It seems like all of this is being done without due diligence or accountability

No shit, Sherlock.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 14, 2025 05:48 PM (mH6SG)

9 with the cash flows cut off or hindered, how long will the legacy media hold water for them and whatever BS narratives they come up with to deflect from these crimes?

Posted by: bored383 at March 14, 2025 05:49 PM (4Kzkx)

10 Guy spends a lifetime stealing from the Taxpayers and caps it off with the single largest payout in History.

Remember the Teapot Dome Scandal from your History Books?

That wasn't even the Mandatory Gratuity for Parties of 100 Million (or more) on this.

Posted by: garrett at March 14, 2025 05:50 PM (npXNI)

11 The money was put into the Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund
......

a subsidiary of the Human Fund.

Posted by: wth at March 14, 2025 05:50 PM (v0R5T)

12 I dindu nuffin…

Posted by: Stacy Abrams at March 14, 2025 05:50 PM (oseNm)

13 Everyone tired of being a slush fund for political cronies?

Posted by: huerfano at March 14, 2025 05:51 PM (n2swS)

14 Certainly, Biden is too old and sympathetic to ever expect him to stand trial.

Posted by: garrett at March 14, 2025 05:51 PM (npXNI)

15 Although this isn't news - Loomer broke it Monday -
x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1898943141798924580
The "Hack Club", which Elon supports as a means to get people coding, also supports "Planet Over Profit". They've been burning Teslas for Mother Gaia.
Elon is paying for environmental terrorists to burn his cars.

Posted by: gKWVE at March 14, 2025 05:51 PM (gKWVE)

16 Don't worry. All that money was signed-off on.

Posted by: Biden's Autopen at March 14, 2025 05:51 PM (a3Q+t)

17 More corruption?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

Uh huh
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions
......

At least they saved the planet.

Posted by: wth at March 14, 2025 05:52 PM (v0R5T)

18 It seems like all of this is being done without due diligence or accountability."
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I don't think "seems" is a strong enough word.

Posted by: Axeman at March 14, 2025 05:52 PM (krQz2)

19 Find the staffers who "signed off" on this. Everyone knows now that *biden wasn't in control of the White House, let alone the government.

Unelected and faceless bureaucrats and staffers in the White House and elsewhere were.

Find them. And hang them in a public space until dead.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 14, 2025 05:52 PM (Q4IgG)

20 Don't worry. All that money was signed-off on.

Posted by: Biden's Autopen at March 14, 2025 05:51 PM (a3Q+t)
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They just write it off, Jerry!

Posted by: Axeman at March 14, 2025 05:52 PM (krQz2)

21 Hunter is broke, too.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at March 14, 2025 05:52 PM (PiwSw)

22 Apparently, Laura Loomer won't be satisfied until Elon Musk puts a Baby in her.

Posted by: garrett at March 14, 2025 05:52 PM (npXNI)

23 "I've never seen anything like this," he said. "It is fishy ... I think they thought they would win reelection and panicked when they lost. It seems like all of this is being done without due diligence or accountability."

Yep it was pure panic when Trump won. They had no clue what to do, how to do it or how to hide what they had done. They got sloppy and started bragging about "tossing gold bars off of the titanic".

No matter what the hawaiin judge says, that money is coming back to the treasury at some point and will not be laundered to biden's green agenda driven democrat cronies to spend against American interests.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 14, 2025 05:53 PM (e5NfL)

24 Apparently, Laura Loomer won't be satisfied until Elon Musk puts a Baby in her.

Posted by: garrett at March 14, 2025 05:52 PM (npXNI)
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That's AOC's thing, too.

Posted by: Axeman at March 14, 2025 05:54 PM (krQz2)

25 16 Don't worry. All that money was signed-off on.

Posted by: Biden's Autopen at March 14, 2025 05:51 PM (a3Q+t)

Exactly. It's all a write-off.

Posted by: Kramer at March 14, 2025 05:54 PM (i0F8b)

26 It seems like this water is wet.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 14, 2025 05:55 PM (KtIIi)

27 Secretary Marco Rubio @SecRubio
South Africa's Ambassador to the United States is no longer welcome in our great country.
Ebrahim Rasool is a race-baiting politician who hates America and hates @POTUS.
We have nothing to discuss with him and so he is considered PERSONA NON GRATA

Posted by: #winning at March 14, 2025 05:56 PM (gKWVE)

28 >>It seems like this water is wet.

Let's not jump to conclusions.

We might want to assemble a Blue Ribbon Commission to Study this.

Posted by: garrett at March 14, 2025 05:56 PM (npXNI)

29 "It seems like all of this is being done without due diligence or accountability."

That's why they call them 'grants.'

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 05:57 PM (3l52y)

30 Find them. And hang them in a public space until ~~dead~~ the vultures are full.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 14, 2025 05:52 PM (Q4IgG)

(Possible edit)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 14, 2025 05:57 PM (KtIIi)

31 > PERSONA NON GRATA
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It's on my doormat.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 14, 2025 05:57 PM (Q4IgG)

32 It's so "fishy" the corruption is comparatively the size of about 1000 Blue Whales laid end to end It's great to come up with these astronomical sums when either nobody's in charge since Biden was in la-la land , or everybody was just feathering their own large nest.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2025 05:57 PM (JExEi)

33 I said a week ago the EPA has to be another money grabbing administration. Washing funds into pockets.

Posted by: Skip i at March 14, 2025 05:58 PM (fwDg9)

34
In the meantime, J'Blowme is trussed up in a gimp suit and chained to an iron bedstead in the basement of their Wilmington mansion. And "Doctor" Jill has been sporting latex gear ever since they left DC.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at March 14, 2025 05:58 PM (xG4kz)

35 We have nothing to discuss with him and so he is considered PERSONA NON GRATA
Posted by: #winning at March 14, 2025 05:56 PM (gKWVE)

I think they might be making a maniac out of Marco.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 14, 2025 05:58 PM (KtIIi)

36 > PERSONA NON GRATA
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It's on my doormat.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
.....

Mine says:
HATE IS HOME HERE

Posted by: wth at March 14, 2025 05:59 PM (v0R5T)

37 Related

https://tinyurl.com/warren-run

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 06:00 PM (2VST1)

38 Rubio's garbage is starting to make me... anxious, if you know what I mean.

Posted by: gKWVE at March 14, 2025 06:00 PM (gKWVE)

39
Coming up on T - 1h for Operation Smelly Chick Rescue.

Just looking at the countdown timeline. At T - 1:10:00, they load the final updated ephemeris into the Dragon's flight computers. This is your target, the smelly chick's trajectory is this. Aim for it.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 14, 2025 06:01 PM (w6EFb)

40
https://tinyurl.com/warren-run

LOL!

Man, she really face planted herself in that trip and fall.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at March 14, 2025 06:01 PM (xG4kz)

41 How come Democrats can push billions out the door with zero Republican support and less than 60 Senate votes but Republicans have to have 60 in the Senate to get anything done.

Posted by: torabora at March 14, 2025 06:01 PM (bVLn/)

42 The EPA is digging a mile away from me. I'm on the northern boundary of what I think is the largest Superfund site in the USA. (Somebody spilled some solvents sixty years ago, and now there's ten square miles of site.) One of the factories recently burned down, so they're in there with the bunny suits, continuing the decades-long mopup.

They dig up the contaminated dirt. Then they bury it somewhere else. Problem Solved!

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 06:02 PM (3l52y)

43 The money was put into the Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund

Seems a bit pricey to fund a program to get Jerry Nadler and Chris Christie to eat their weight in cheese.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at March 14, 2025 06:02 PM (M0V4/)

44 Related

https://tinyurl.com/warren-run
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
......

The only part that I can't believe is that she can run.

Posted by: wth at March 14, 2025 06:02 PM (v0R5T)

45 Senate votes but Republicans have to have 60 in the Senate to get anything done.

Posted by: torabora at March 14, 2025 06:01 PM (bVLn/)

They need 60 votes in the senate to get anything *we* might want done.

They do just fine for themselves, though.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 14, 2025 06:03 PM (KtIIi)

46 Only fools believe anyone will go to jail for this.

Posted by: p-squared at March 14, 2025 06:03 PM (0prFs)

47 Coming up on T - 1h for Operation Smelly Chick Rescue.

Just looking at the countdown timeline. At T - 1:10:00, they load the final updated ephemeris into the Dragon's flight computers. This is your target, the smelly chick's trajectory is this. Aim for it.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 14, 2025 06:01 PM (w6EFb)

LOL..

Will the EPA be required to help clean up the Boeing Boeing Boeing astronauts when they return to Earth... only the Shadow knows.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 14, 2025 06:03 PM (VNX3d)

48 agency's inspector general Sean O'Donnell to testify. O'Donnell made clear he had never seen the maneuvers the EPA was making with the Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund, and said neither he nor his staff would be able to stay on top of it.
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The Inspector General's office won't be able to stay on top of the money movement shenanigans. I guess us taxpayers are out of luck then.

*shrugs*

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 14, 2025 06:03 PM (Dv3i1)

49 This is your target, the smelly chick's trajectory is this. Aim for it.

Uh, I'd like to be demoted to the backup crew.

Posted by: Major Tom to Ground Control at March 14, 2025 06:04 PM (mH6SG)

50 I was going down the 60 listed non-profit entities that split the $7 Billion that went to "Solar for All". I have to say, there are some interesting recipients in there. Not to mention that a nice chunk going to Puerto Rico.

There is one called Hope Enterprises, Co. And, I can find anything that all that suggests they are involved in the solar world. I did find addiction centers run by them however.

Posted by: Orson at March 14, 2025 06:04 PM (dIske)

51 South Africa isn't likely to make pals with poo 💩 because he's white. Nor Chi nah because not black. Maybe Europe.

Posted by: torabora at March 14, 2025 06:05 PM (bVLn/)

52 The only part that I can't believe is that she can run.

Especially carrying that much

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 06:05 PM (2VST1)

53 I think they might be making a maniac out of Marco.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 14, 2025 05:58 PM (KtIIi)
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Was he always like this deep down? Was the squishy Dondi look just a mask, or has he been born again hard?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 14, 2025 06:05 PM (ZOv7s)

54 Coming up on T - 1h for Operation Smelly Chick Rescue.
......

Sponsored by Lume.

Posted by: wth at March 14, 2025 06:05 PM (v0R5T)

55 Related

https://tinyurl.com/warren-run
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 06:00 PM

That's heap big wampum!

Posted by: Iron Eyes Cody at March 14, 2025 06:05 PM (a3Q+t)

56 We got solar farms going in all over N IL. With our poor insolation, I can't see how it can breakeven without heavy subsidies. But up it goes.

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 06:06 PM (3l52y)

57 PERSONA NON GRATA

I mean, the minimum possible job for a diplomat is to be polite, if you hate white people so much you cannot even fake that... maybe the job of ambassador isn't for you.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 06:06 PM (2VST1)

58 I've got some greenhouse gases going right now.

Posted by: torabora at March 14, 2025 06:06 PM (bVLn/)

59 EPA is another Church of the Global Warming in the Cultural Marxism

Posted by: Skip i at March 14, 2025 06:07 PM (fwDg9)

60 Only fools believe anyone will go to jail for this.
Posted by: p-squared at March 14, 2025 06:03 PM

Steiner ... Steiner will come.

Posted by: You Know Who at March 14, 2025 06:07 PM (a3Q+t)

61 "Operation Smelly Chick Rescue."

Dear God, please keep everybody safe on this one. Amen.

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 06:07 PM (3l52y)

62 The Inspector General's office won't be able to stay on top of the money movement shenanigans. I guess us taxpayers are out of luck then.

*shrugs*
Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 14, 2025 06:03 PM (Dv3i1)
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What that statement means is that it was a deliberate attempt to evade financial controls. The people behind knew what they were doing. You don't need the IG to claw the funds back, we have other ways of getting at it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 14, 2025 06:07 PM (ZOv7s)

63 46 Only fools believe anyone will go to jail for this.
Posted by: p-squared at March 14, 2025 06:03 PM (0prFs)

Yep. Sad but True.

Whenever I see words like Potentially, Likely, Or Possibly, I know they'll get away with it.

My one hope is they buy a hot dose of heroin by accident.

Posted by: jsg at March 14, 2025 06:08 PM (UJ+K5)

64 Only fools believe anyone will go to jail for this.
Posted by: p-squared at March 14, 2025 06:03 PM (0prFs)
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Do you need a hug?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 14, 2025 06:08 PM (ZOv7s)

65 Nor Chi nah because not black. Maybe Europe.
Posted by: torabora

China has this thing called money. So, I doubt SAnazis would turn that down.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 14, 2025 06:08 PM (mlg/3)

66 The Inspector General's office won't be able to stay on top of the money movement shenanigans. I guess us taxpayers are out of luck then.

*shrugs*
Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 14, 2025 06:03 PM (Dv3i1)

This has always been part of the schtick.

Pretend everything is so incredibly complicated that no one could possibly figure out what's going on, because it's The System, you know? Of course The System is gonna be complicated. We got like ten billion people in America. You gotta have a big complicated inscrutable State to watch over everyone.

Meanwhile it's just a bunch of nutsacks saying "hey can i have some of that money" and the nutsacks who get to pretend new money exists say "yeah, bruh, long as you send 10% to the Big Guy. Just gimme your routing number."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 14, 2025 06:08 PM (KtIIi)

67 I've got some greenhouse gases going right now.
Posted by: torabora
......

I've got pork brats for dinner tomorrow.

Posted by: wth at March 14, 2025 06:09 PM (v0R5T)

68 In law, that is evidence of conscienceness of guilt.
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What is this "law" thing?

Oh, you mean what Hawaiian judges tell you to do, because they are smarter than you?

Posted by: Democrats and Commies at March 14, 2025 06:09 PM (y5Bkh)

69 It's a write-off, Jerry. They just write it off.

Posted by: Cosmo Cramer at March 14, 2025 06:10 PM (paSBy)

70 Feather the nest, wet the beak, have a few laughs wit da boys down at the legit businessmen's social club. And 10% tribute.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 14, 2025 06:10 PM (gm9Sb)

71 Was he always like this deep down? Was the squishy Dondi look just a mask, or has he been born again hard?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 14, 2025 06:05 PM (ZOv7s)

I have no idea.

I think he might have actually snapped. No zeal like the zeal of a new convert, sort of thing. I'm enjoying it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 14, 2025 06:11 PM (KtIIi)

72
Flight: Status?

Booster: Go, flight!
Guidance: Go, flight!
LUME: Go flight!

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 14, 2025 06:11 PM (w6EFb)

73 My bet is no one will get a conviction in any of these money thefts

Posted by: Skip i at March 14, 2025 06:12 PM (fwDg9)

74 Paging, Blondi, Blondi to the nuclear RICO case courtesy telephone.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 14, 2025 06:13 PM (i24o9)

75 Investment Accelerator indeed!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 14, 2025 06:13 PM (63Dwl)

76 14
'Certainly, Biden is too old and sympathetic to ever expect him to stand trial.'

Sympathetic to whom? I'd happily wring his neck.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 14, 2025 06:13 PM (3wi/L)

77 Space-X booster needs to go thru carwash, or Earl Scheib's.

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 06:13 PM (3l52y)

78
Was he always like this deep down? Was the squishy Dondi look just a mask, or has he been born again hard?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

I think it is him seeing this country flirting with, or even implementing, actions and policies that lost Cuba for he and his family has him enraged, if not out and out pissed off.

"Where could we go if this place succumbs to evil?'

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at March 14, 2025 06:13 PM (xG4kz)

79 PDJT is wheels up out of Andrews AFB en route to Palm Beach.

Posted by: TRex at March 14, 2025 06:14 PM (IQ6Gq)

80 >>>The Citibank arrangement effectively removing direct EPA oversight, and with interest on the $20 billion going to the grant recipients, was signed on Dec. 27, agency officials told RCI . . . .

Was that wrong?

Posted by: George Costanza at March 14, 2025 06:14 PM (i24o9)

81 45 Senate votes but Republicans have to have 60 in the Senate to get anything done.

Posted by: torabora at March 14, 2025 06:01 PM (bVLn/)

They need 60 votes in the senate to get anything *we* might want done.

They do just fine for themselves, though.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 14, 2025 06:03 PM (KtIIi)

We're passed the 60 vote shit, and the amendment shit (which would send it back to the House), we're now on the straight up or down, pass this shit vote.

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at March 14, 2025 06:14 PM (e/Osv)

82 53 I think they might be making a maniac out of Marco.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 14, 2025 05:58 PM (KtIIi)

_______________________________

I keep expecting him to pull a Pompeo and compromise the office. But, then I wonder whether Trump sat him down and asked him if he'd like to see Cuba as the 51st state. Something along the lines of "Do a good job for me Marco, and you and Ted Cruz can see about turning Cuba into part of the US. But, first, let's get Russia and Ukraine squared away so Russia can't use Cuba as a negotiating point."

Posted by: Orson at March 14, 2025 06:15 PM (dIske)

83
Coming up on T - 45min. The Go/No-go poll will be taken then.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 14, 2025 06:15 PM (w6EFb)

84 Elon is paying for environmental terrorists to burn his cars.

Posted by: gKWVE at March 14, 2025 05:51 PM (gKWVE)

That's patently absurd.

Posted by: DaisyB at March 14, 2025 06:15 PM (AbL8c)

85 With everything else that is being exposed it might have flown under the radar but global warming is deader than Franco.

This has to be the biggest and fastest political reversal in generations. Maybe ever.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 14, 2025 06:16 PM (LkLld)

86 46 Only fools believe anyone will go to jail for this.

Posted by: p-squared at March 14, 2025 06:03 PM (0prFs)

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I'm not counting on people going to jail. But I do think it is reasonable to out them, smear their names and to break the graft machine once and for all.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at March 14, 2025 06:16 PM (7geUv)

87 We will know it is close to being solved when Jimmy starts whacking the rest of the crew to keep them quiet and bodies start turning up

Posted by: Azjaeger at March 14, 2025 06:16 PM (5XJ3A)

88 My bet is no one will get a conviction in any of these money thefts
Posted by: Skip i at March 14, 2025 06:12 PM (fwDg9)
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I could not be more unsurprised that you think that.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 14, 2025 06:17 PM (ZOv7s)

89
They are go. Fueling will proceed as planned. The last one scrubbed a little before fueling was to start.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 14, 2025 06:18 PM (w6EFb)

90 We need a bigger Gitmo.

Posted by: Case at March 14, 2025 06:18 PM (xcRXq)

91 https://tinyurl.com/warren-run

LOL!

Man, she really face planted herself in that trip and fall.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at March 14, 2025 06:01 PM (xG4kz)

I take back all the negative things I said about AI.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 14, 2025 06:18 PM (i24o9)

92 Space X website is fucked up

Posted by: jsg at March 14, 2025 06:18 PM (UJ+K5)

93 92 Working for me.

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 06:19 PM (3l52y)

94 36
'Mine says:
HATE IS HOME HERE'

I laughed out loud.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 14, 2025 06:19 PM (3wi/L)

95 This has to be the biggest and fastest political reversal in generations. Maybe ever.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 14, 2025 06:16 PM (LkLld)

In terms of magnitude, in terms of speed.... it's like the Meiji restoration, with the bloated bakufu collapsing under its own weight and the rightful yet powerless emperor realizing the bakufu is a bunch of powerless, dishonorable, disorganized buttfuckers who have coasted on nothing but image and inertia for half a century.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 14, 2025 06:20 PM (KtIIi)

96 >> PDJT is wheels up out of Andrews AFB en route to Palm Beach.

And oddly enough he seems quite pleased with what's going on at the DOJ.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 14, 2025 06:20 PM (LkLld)

97 93 92 Working for me.
Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 06:19 PM (3l52y)

Must be me

Posted by: jsg at March 14, 2025 06:20 PM (UJ+K5)

98
Arm retracting.

Try this feed here:
https://tinyurl.com/2926uahz

NASA+ also has a stream.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 14, 2025 06:20 PM (w6EFb)

99 But where were the district judges?

Posted by: Griff at March 14, 2025 06:20 PM (IeBqB)

100 I take back all the negative things I said about AI.
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A channel of AI bluegrass music hit my YouTube feed, and I've listened to a lot of it.

AI is going to put a lot of commercial musicians out of business.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 14, 2025 06:21 PM (paSBy)

101 96 >> PDJT is wheels up out of Andrews AFB en route to Palm Beach.

And oddly enough he seems quite pleased with what's going on at the DOJ.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 14, 2025 06:20 PM (LkLld)

I'm sure he knows something that we don't know...

Posted by: It's me donna at March 14, 2025 06:21 PM (VE6XX)

102 93 ... except it killed a nearly-complete two-and-a-half hour file download I had running in background. Other than that, Go Flight!

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 06:21 PM (3l52y)

103
Encouraging signs of death in some quarters.

The organization that I want to dry up like Jule Inc did is the Sunrise Movement. They're still agitating for the Green New Deal. Nothing new on their website.

The Justice Democrats has Raul Grijalva as one of their "candidates."

Admittedly, I don't know if this inactivity reflects a sudden, unexpected funding crunch or just people being lazy. I intend to check in with those organizations from time to time.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 14, 2025 06:22 PM (lCaJd)

104 I'm sure he knows something that we don't know...
Posted by: It's me donna at March 14, 2025 06:21 PM (VE6XX)

Perhaps some dopes are in the process of getting roped...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 14, 2025 06:22 PM (KtIIi)

105 "with interest on the $20 billion going to the grant recipients"

That's north of $2,000,000 a day, seven days a week, right into their pockets.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at March 14, 2025 06:22 PM (pIfcn)

106 >>I'm sure he knows something that we don't know...

Probably a few somethings.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 14, 2025 06:22 PM (LkLld)

107 This has to be the biggest and fastest political reversal in generations. Maybe ever.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 14, 2025 06:16 PM (LkLld)
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Yes, and I honestly don't understand the pessimism around here. Has Trump solved all the world's problems and punished all the guilty in (checks calendar) less than two months? No.

But the border is airtight. The self-deportations are underway. He's hammering Maine, Columbia bent the knee, 45 universities are going to get crushed, and we are only getting started.

The judges are just sand in the gears, but they have no real hope of changing anything. The employees being ordered back to work are being placed on administrative leave because now they're security risks. Nice, job, judges.

All of this was expected, and Trump just keeps rolling along, fixing eggs, inflation, creating private sector jobs and yet some people have to get the sadz about stuff.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 14, 2025 06:23 PM (ZOv7s)

108 We got solar farms going in all over N IL. With our poor insolation, I can't see how it can breakeven without heavy subsidies. But up it goes.

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 06:06 PM

We have solar farms going up all over East Texas. You know the place that gets gigantic hail storms every spring and fall that destroy solar farms. But they keep building them.

They just built up a new one on US82 east of us going towards Paris. Probably a couple of thousand acres that will be wiped out when the next hail storm comes through.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 14, 2025 06:23 PM (e5NfL)

109 "They crawled up my ass, and that was for a small grant."

My. I do believe South Carolina needs a large, nay, a huge grant!

Posted by: Senator Lindsey Graham, closeted homosexual at March 14, 2025 06:23 PM (R/m4+)

110 Why do they need to boost four people on this mission? Are they going to do a lot of work up there?

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 06:23 PM (3l52y)

111
Launch escape is armed. If anything goes south, the crew gets a nice 6g+ ride off the top of the stack, hopefully outrunning the fireball.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 14, 2025 06:24 PM (w6EFb)

112 108 How do they get insurance I wonder.

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 06:24 PM (3l52y)

113 Do you need a hug?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 14,

LOL

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2025 06:25 PM (nttL5)

114 106 >>I'm sure he knows something that we don't know...

Probably a few somethings.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 14, 2025 06:22 PM (LkLld)

_______________________

There used to be a site where you could track Federal sitting Grand Juries across the nation. But, I don't think it's available anymore. At least, the favored link I saved isn't working.

Posted by: Orson at March 14, 2025 06:25 PM (dIske)

115 Why do they need to boost four people on this mission? Are they going to do a lot of work up there?
Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 06:23 PM (3l52y)

Redundancy, in case one turns into the Red Shirt.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 14, 2025 06:25 PM (VNX3d)

116

Imagine, all 35 trillion of the debt was all grift and fraud using black people as cover.

It's plausible.

And it's what happened.

We need more social justice.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at March 14, 2025 06:25 PM (et1vG)

117 >> Why do they need to boost four people on this mission? Are they going to do a lot of work up there?

Crew rotation. 4 up, 4 down, including Smelly Chick.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 14, 2025 06:25 PM (w6EFb)

118 Oh, they're going to leave a couple. Duh.

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 06:25 PM (3l52y)

119 We have solar farms going up all over East Texas. You know the place that gets gigantic hail storms every spring and fall that destroy solar farms. But they keep building them.

They just built up a new one on US82 east of us going towards Paris. Probably a couple of thousand acres that will be wiped out when the next hail storm comes through.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 14, 2025 06:23 PM (e5NfL)

You'd think that they'd never heard of chicken wire. But, then again, it's not their money.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 14, 2025 06:25 PM (i24o9)

120 A New Beltway Mystery: Follow the Biden EPA Money
_________________

People need to hang for all this.

Also, go back and investigate the Lightbringer. I bet he was involved in corruption up to his scrawny neck.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 06:25 PM (YqDXo)

121
This crew is two broads, a Jap, and a Rooskie. There's a joke there somewhere.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 14, 2025 06:25 PM (w6EFb)

122 The "Hack Club", which Elon supports as a means to get people coding, also supports "Planet Over Profit". They've been burning Teslas for Mother Gaia.
Elon is paying for environmental terrorists to burn his cars.
Posted by: gKWVE

I guess he'll just have to stop supporting the club that supports the club that burns his cars.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at March 14, 2025 06:26 PM (LsB7C)

123 Imagine, all 35 trillion of the debt was all grift and fraud using black people as cover.

It's plausible.

And it's what happened.

We need more social justice.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at March 14, 2025 06:25 PM (et1vG)

That and MIC bacon.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 14, 2025 06:26 PM (i24o9)

124 Trump fixing eggs.

Can I please request an omelet with onions and pepper and ham?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2025 06:26 PM (nttL5)

125 Imagine, all 35 trillion of the debt was all grift and fraud using black people as cover.
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Yeah, I bet they vigorously resisted receiving any of that largesse.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 06:27 PM (YqDXo)

126 Can I please request an omelet with onions and pepper and ham?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2025 06:26 PM (nttL5)
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The omelet I want involves cracking heads, not eggs.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 06:28 PM (YqDXo)

127 121
This crew is two broads, a Jap, and a Rooskie. There's a joke there somewhere.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 14, 2025 06:25 PM (w6EFb)
____________________________

If the turn signal is one the entire time, it's the Japanese guy. If the rocket is all over the place outside the "lines" it's the Russian. The two broads are there just gripe about not stopping for directions.

Posted by: Orson at March 14, 2025 06:29 PM (dIske)

128 This crew is two broads, a Jap, and a Rooskie. There's a joke there somewhere.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 14, 2025 06:25 PM (w6EFb)
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I'll start. Two broads, a Jap, and a Rooskie go into a bar ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 06:29 PM (YqDXo)

129 Yes, and I honestly don't understand the pessimism around here.

It's baked into the cake.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 14, 2025 06:29 PM (mH6SG)

130 The Inspector General's office won't be able to stay on top of the money movement shenanigans.

That right there ought to be grounds for immediate firing on account of they aren't competent to do the job they were hired for.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at March 14, 2025 06:29 PM (LsB7C)

131
Fueling now begins. RP-1 into both stages, LOX into 1st. 2nd stage LOX load starts later.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 14, 2025 06:29 PM (w6EFb)

132 If they put a pointier nose cone and kick-ass fins on that thing, just think how fast it would scoot.

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 06:30 PM (3l52y)

133 That and MIC bacon.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 14, 2025 06:26 PM (i24o9)

Yeah but Irish bacon is amazing. Little bit of mash on the side...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 14, 2025 06:30 PM (KtIIi)

134 Why do they need to boost four people on this mission? Are they going to do a lot of work up there?

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 06:23 PM (3l52y)
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What kindergarten classes will they teach, assuming they survive the launch?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 06:30 PM (YqDXo)

135 127 Ha!

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 06:30 PM (3l52y)

136 This crew is two broads, a Jap, and a Rooskie. There's a joke there somewhere.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 14, 2025 06:25 PM (w6EFb)
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Or a cabinet nomination.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 14, 2025 06:31 PM (ZOv7s)

137 Racism! Pure racism!
ibs of TikTok@libsoftiktok
BREAKING: Secretary of State Marco Rubio says South African Ambassador to the U.S. Embrahim Rasool, is officially PERSONA NON GRATA after his race baiting comments and baseless attacks on President Trump

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at March 14, 2025 06:31 PM (L/fGl)

138 Wow... apparently Calif still has bird flu...

$10.99 for a dozen large eggs at the local grocery store.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2025 06:32 PM (QAkQ3)

139 We have the Nukes.

Fuck the National Debt.

Nuke Uruguay.

Sons o'bitches will fall right in line.

Posted by: jsg at March 14, 2025 06:32 PM (UJ+K5)

140
In all fairness, I do think that the stranded Boeing Two should be accorded a trip to J'Blowme's Wilmington mansion and then be invited to take a couple of healthy craps on his lawn.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at March 14, 2025 06:32 PM (xG4kz)

141 Racism! Pure racism!
ibs of TikTok@libsoftiktok
BREAKING: Secretary of State Marco Rubio says South African Ambassador to the U.S. Embrahim Rasool, is officially PERSONA NON GRATA after his race baiting comments and baseless attacks on President Trump
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at March 14, 2025 06:31 PM (L/fGl)
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It's going to be fun when Trump sanctions South Africa for racism and the rest of the world has to make a choice of whether to join or not.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 14, 2025 06:32 PM (ZOv7s)

142 Racism! Pure racism!
ibs of TikTok@libsoftiktok
BREAKING: Secretary of State Marco Rubio says South African Ambassador to the U.S. Embrahim Rasool, is officially PERSONA NON GRATA after his race baiting comments and baseless attacks on President Trump

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at March 14, 2025 06:31 PM (L/fGl)

I think I have gone a lifetime without seeing an official PERSONA NON GRATA.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 14, 2025 06:33 PM (i24o9)

143 Wow... apparently Calif still has bird flu...

$10.99 for a dozen large eggs at the local grocery store.
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2025 06:32 PM (QAkQ3)

Tape the carton shut, add a chain, and you have some expensive bling.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 14, 2025 06:33 PM (VNX3d)

144 112 108 How do they get insurance I wonder.

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 06:24 PM

They don't. The state grid operator usually has to come in and tear them down, clean up the site and start over. It has happened to large solar farms for almost every year of the 8 years we have lived here.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 14, 2025 06:33 PM (e5NfL)

145 Yes, and I honestly don't understand the pessimism around here.

I do. Its not so much pessimism, its pattern recognition. Whenever someone in power pays for their evil, its a shock, and it always has been as long as humans have had power.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 06:33 PM (2VST1)

146 128 This crew is two broads, a Jap, and a Rooskie. There's a joke there somewhere.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 14, 2025 06:25 PM (w6EFb)
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I'll start. Two broads, a Jap, and a Rooskie go into a bar ...
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 06:29 PM (YqDXo)

into a Gay Bar.... and the Rooskie says 'I'll have a Kamikaze'.... and the Jap says "I'll have a White Russian".

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2025 06:34 PM (QAkQ3)

147
They had to have start the LOX slow to chill everything down slow enough to prevent too much thermal shock. Once it gets chilled, they go into high speed pump mode.

And remember this is sub-cooled LOX, close to the freezing point.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 14, 2025 06:34 PM (w6EFb)

148 If they put a pointier nose cone and kick-ass fins on that thing, just think how fast it would scoot.

And some go-fast stripes

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 06:34 PM (2VST1)

149 This has to be the biggest and fastest political reversal in generations. Maybe ever.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 14, 2025 06:16 PM (LkLld)
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Yes, and I honestly don't understand the pessimism around here. Has Trump solved all the world's problems and punished all the guilty in (checks calendar) less than two months? No.

But the border is airtight. The self-deportations are underway. He's hammering Maine, Columbia bent the knee, 45 universities are going to get crushed, and we are only getting started.
_____________

It's like I told my sons: history happens at the discontinuities. It's tempting to subscribe to the linear model, and assume that because today is like yesterday, tomorrow will be like today.

As the Ceausescus found out, that is not always true. The avalanche model is more apt. It's just not possible to determine when the avalanche will occur.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 06:34 PM (YqDXo)

150 This crew is two broads, a Jap, and a Rooskie. There's a joke there somewhere.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 14, 2025 06:25 PM (w6EFb)

Who gets to drive, and why is it the Russian guy?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 14, 2025 06:34 PM (i24o9)

151 If they put a pointier nose cone and kick-ass fins on that thing, just think how fast it would scoot.

And some go-fast stripes

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 06:34 PM (2VST1)
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Plus fuzzy dice on the rear view mirror.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 06:35 PM (YqDXo)

152 145 Yes, and I honestly don't understand the pessimism around here.

I do. Its not so much pessimism, its pattern recognition. Whenever someone in power pays for their evil, its a shock, and it always has been as long as humans have had power.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 06:33 PM (2VST1)

Simpler. Exhibit 1? Hillary Clinton. Flat out red handed caught breaking multiple Federal Laws.... Laws for which I would be in Sing Sing for...

But she is scott free.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2025 06:35 PM (QAkQ3)

153 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 06:28 PM (YqDXo)

I was just responding to A.H. Lloyd saying Trump was fixing eggs. He clearly moved from MacDonald's to the corner deli. I have to laugh about certain things on here or I'd get despondent .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2025 06:35 PM (nttL5)

154 That'd be more than 20,000 tons of 1$bills. That's 3 years shoveling for a steam locomotive fireman.

Posted by: DaveA at March 14, 2025 06:35 PM (FhXTo)

155 120
' investigate the Lightbringer. I bet he was involved in corruption up to his scrawny neck.'

'Involved'? Yeah. I think that's putting it mildly.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 14, 2025 06:35 PM (3wi/L)

156 144 That's wild! Inexplicable. Well, at least you folks have ample sunlight, unlike us at 42deg N latitude.

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 06:36 PM (3l52y)

157 This crew is two broads, a Jap, and a Rooskie. There's a joke there somewhere.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 14, 2025 06:25 PM (w6EFb)

Who gets to drive, and why is it the Russian guy?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 14, 2025 06:34 PM (i24o9)

And where did the Russian put his pet bear?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 14, 2025 06:36 PM (VNX3d)

158 >>They had to have start the LOX slow to chill everything down slow enough to prevent too much thermal shock. Once it gets chilled, they go into high speed pump mode.

>And remember this is sub-cooled LOX, close to the freezing point.

Seems like a whole lot of effort to smoke some salmon.

Posted by: garrett at March 14, 2025 06:36 PM (npXNI)

159 They don't. The state grid operator usually has to come in and tear them down, clean up the site and start over. It has happened to large solar farms for almost every year of the 8 years we have lived here.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 14, 2025 06:33 PM (e5NfL)
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Slow learners, unless the powers that be are in bed with the solar panel manufacturers.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 06:36 PM (YqDXo)

160 I'll start. Two broads, a Jap, and a Rooskie go into a bar ...
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 06:29 PM (YqDXo)

into a Gay Bar.... and the Rooskie says 'I'll have a Kamikaze'.... and the Jap says "I'll have a White Russian".

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2025 06:34 PM (QAkQ3)

And the two broads are out of there lickety split.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 14, 2025 06:37 PM (i24o9)

161 Thanks for the NASA+ suggestion, works great

Posted by: jsg at March 14, 2025 06:37 PM (UJ+K5)

162 They don't. The state grid operator usually has to come in and tear them down, clean up the site and start over. It has happened to large solar farms for almost every year of the 8 years we have lived here.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 14, 2025 06:33 PM (e5NfL)

And they get stimulus funds as if it was a new build then.... same with the Wind Farms through Tehachapi Pass in Calif..... no money to fix the broken ones, but plenty of cash to build new ones... but they leave the derelict ones there.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2025 06:37 PM (QAkQ3)

163 Slow learners, unless the powers that be are in bed with the solar panel manufacturers.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Their insurance companies haven't quite taken the Californian lessons to heart yet.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at March 14, 2025 06:37 PM (LsB7C)

164 Plus fuzzy dice on the rear view mirror.

Maybe a skull shaped knob on the shifter. It has to be manual right?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 06:38 PM (2VST1)

165
All this time, Ukraine and RUssia Russia Russia! Putin bad, Putin Hitler, NASA has been colludin' with the Rooskies all along on the ISS missions.

THere's a ride sharing thing. One Rooskie gets a ride on 'Murican rockets, one 'Murican gets a ride on the Soyuz.

This has been going on all the while.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 14, 2025 06:38 PM (w6EFb)

166
If they put a pointier nose cone and kick-ass fins on that thing, just think how fast it would scoot.

And some go-fast stripes

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Streamers on the handlebars and baseball card strikers on the spokes.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at March 14, 2025 06:38 PM (xG4kz)

167 I was just responding to A.H. Lloyd saying Trump was fixing eggs. He clearly moved from MacDonald's to the corner deli. I have to laugh about certain things on here or I'd get despondent.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2025 06:35 PM (nttL5)
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I know, and fair enough. Reading about how we've been screwed by the government, and in particular the Democrats, makes my blood boil.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 06:38 PM (YqDXo)

168
Was he always like this deep down? Was the squishy Dondi look just a mask, or has he been born again hard?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

==============

Dondi was always tough on the Chinese. I think he was just naive and dumb about immigrants, or maybe he was and still is a plain tribalist about illegal aliens who speak Spanish. They'll get here and "fall in love with America" he said, as if they were all soaking wet Cubans who had just survived 8 hours of 20-foot waves, pried themselves out of a shark's jaws, and gotten one dry foot on the beach in Miami.

Maybe he got religion when he saw the results of Biden's lax border policies, or maybe he'll revert if he becomes president and another caravan shows up. I think he bears watching.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 14, 2025 06:38 PM (lCaJd)

169 no money to fix the broken ones, but plenty of cash to build new ones... but they leave the derelict ones there.
Posted by: Romeo1

That's how Washington State's permanent building fund is.

So you go to a place like WSU, and the campus is full of buildings, only about half of which are in use, and new construction.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at March 14, 2025 06:39 PM (LsB7C)

170 And remember this is sub-cooled LOX, close to the freezing point.

And the bagels?

Posted by: That guy who always asks... at March 14, 2025 06:39 PM (mH6SG)

171 I have a dream ... that the government handles its finances the way I do mine.

Yeah, I'm delusional. I know.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 06:39 PM (YqDXo)

172 I do. Its not so much pessimism, its pattern recognition. Whenever someone in power pays for their evil, its a shock, and it always has been as long as humans have had power.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 06:33 PM (2VST1)
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No, it's a loser mentality. "I'm not going to hope for good things, that way I'll never be disappointed. I'll just assume we always lose."

Winners don't think that way. They fight, fight, fight, to coin a phrase. They take every win they can find, and while they may study the losses and learn from them, they never give up the hope of winning. We can always win because with God anything is possible.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 14, 2025 06:40 PM (ZOv7s)

173 They don't. The state grid operator usually has to come in and tear them down, clean up the site and start over. It has happened to large solar farms for almost every year of the 8 years we have lived here.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 14, 2025 06:33 PM (e5NfL)
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Slow learners, unless the powers that be are in bed with the solar panel manufacturers.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 06:36 PM

Until Trump and the EPA turn off all of that $$$$$$ that biden and the democrats funded for solar they are going to keep building them, taking the federal money and running away. It isn't tax credits, it is up front money. Plus the tariffs need to be implemented on china and their junk price solar panels as well.

Last time I checked all of that money from the inflation reduction act is still out there available for people to get for solar stuff, EV's and new "efficient" appliances.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 14, 2025 06:40 PM (e5NfL)

174 Streamers on the handlebars and baseball card strikers on the spokes.

A banana seat, those are faster, right?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 06:41 PM (2VST1)

175 I have a dream ... that the government handles its finances the way I do mine.

Yeah, I'm delusional. I know.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 06:39 PM (YqDXo)
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I mean, the government is pretty much doing what I do, running up massive amounts of debt, spending most of it on booze, a bunch on guns, the rest on women.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 14, 2025 06:41 PM (ZOv7s)

176 That's how Washington State's permanent building fund is.

So you go to a place like WSU, and the campus is full of buildings, only about half of which are in use, and new construction.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at March 14, 2025 06:39 PM (LsB7C)
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They should do things California style. Put a bond issue on the ballot for the "construction and maintenance of school buildings," and then when it passes, give the money to the worthless teachers instead.

Then at the next election, do the same all over again. And watch the local retards vote for it again.

Meanwhile, no new schools are built, and the existing ones crumble.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 06:42 PM (YqDXo)

177 Winners don't think that way. They fight, fight, fight, to coin a phrase.

We're not in the race. We're spectators. Our efforts or lack make no difference whatsoever. Its not like if we hope hard enough Tinkerbell Justice will come back to life. We hope that good happens, but expect things to be as per usual in life. That's a realistic viewpoint, that's the sinful world we live in.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 06:42 PM (2VST1)

178 I mean, the government is pretty much doing what I do, running up massive amounts of debt, spending most of it on booze, a bunch on guns, the rest on women.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 14, 2025 06:41 PM (ZOv7s)
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Except the government spends the money on transgender "women."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 06:42 PM (YqDXo)

179 Last time I checked all of that money from the inflation reduction act is still out there available for people to get for solar stuff, EV's and new "efficient" appliances.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 14, 2025 06:40 PM (e5NfL)
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Applications are locked on all that stuff. You missed the EO requiring all departments review programs for compliance with Trump's agenda and shutting down climate change and DEI.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 14, 2025 06:42 PM (ZOv7s)

180 Except the government spends the money on transgender "women."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 06:42 PM (YqDXo)
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Everyone has their kink, I guess.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 14, 2025 06:43 PM (ZOv7s)

181 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 14, 2025 06:40 PM (ZOv7s)

Amen! Nice post. Thank you.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2025 06:43 PM (42Vb+)

182 Last time I checked all of that money from the inflation reduction act is still out there available for people to get for solar stuff, EV's and new "efficient" appliances.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 14, 2025 06:40 PM (e5NfL)
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Applications are locked on all that stuff. You missed the EO requiring all departments review programs for compliance with Trump's agenda and shutting down climate change and DEI.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 14, 2025 06:42 PM

good, that's a start.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 14, 2025 06:43 PM (e5NfL)

183 Until Trump and the EPA turn off all of that $$$$$$ that biden and the democrats funded for solar they are going to keep building them, taking the federal money and running away. It isn't tax credits, it is up front money. Plus the tariffs need to be implemented on china and their junk price solar panels as well.
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And no more of these "loan guarantees." That's crap. If you guarantee the loan, you're MAKING the loan, just pretending that someone else is.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 06:44 PM (YqDXo)

184 172
'No, it's a loser mentality. "I'm not going to hope for good things, that way I'll never be disappointed. I'll just assume we always lose."'

Even if you're facing odds, you don't START with the mindset that you don't have any chance.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 14, 2025 06:44 PM (3wi/L)

185 The SA ambassador and his wife in pic with Obama -

South African Wife Embodies Spirit of ‘Ubuntu’

https://tinyurl.com/yrf22cs2

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 14, 2025 06:45 PM (Dv3i1)

186 Except the government spends the money on transgender "women."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 06:42 PM (YqDXo)
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Everyone has their kink, I guess.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 14, 2025 06:43 PM (ZOv7s)
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Point of order: that's not a kink, that's a straight-up perversion.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 06:45 PM (YqDXo)

187 We're not in the race. We're spectators. Our efforts or lack make no difference whatsoever. Its not like if we hope hard enough Tinkerbell Justice will come back to life. We hope that good happens, but expect things to be as per usual in life. That's a realistic viewpoint, that's the sinful world we live in.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 06:42 PM (2VST1)
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If you always expect to lose in politics, it filters into the rest of your life. Why vote, Trump won't win. Why vote, Trump won't do anything even if he does win.

Expecting to lose is contagious. It's one thing to expect nothing and celebrate victories as a gift, but it's quite another to announce that victory is simply impossible.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 14, 2025 06:45 PM (ZOv7s)

188 We better damn well see a declining fed deficit as a result of all these claimed savings. If the deficit rises, I call ultrashenanigans.

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 06:47 PM (3l52y)

189 nood

Posted by: Ides Of gp at March 14, 2025 06:48 PM (3l52y)

190 We're not in the race. We're spectators. Our efforts or lack make no difference whatsoever. Its not like if we hope hard enough Tinkerbell Justice will come back to life. We hope that good happens, but expect things to be as per usual in life. That's a realistic viewpoint, that's the sinful world we live in.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2025 06:42 PM (2VST1)

Yikes. And I thought I was a glass-half-empty guy. Chin up, dude.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 14, 2025 06:48 PM (mH6SG)

191 The Rock is at the bottom of the hill every morning.

You choose to roll it up the hill or not every day.

Every.Day.

Sometime I wonder why I bother.

And then I stop being a bitch and start rolling that fucker again.

Posted by: jsg at March 14, 2025 06:50 PM (UJ+K5)

192 Point of order: that's not a kink, that's a straight-up perversion.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 06:45 PM (YqDXo)
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Hmmm, we're going to need to put this up to our panel of expert judges. I'm going to say cross-dressing is a kink, but actual surgery (dudes getting fake bewbs) perversion.

Child mutilation is of course demonic and should be punished by death.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 14, 2025 06:50 PM (ZOv7s)

193 To put this context, the IRS busted my chops for not reporting $300 of imputed income from seven years ago.

I'd consulted for a startup that partially paid me with stock (worthless at the time). Seven years go by, and the startup sends me a document imputing the $300 to my holdings from back when. (No cash changed hands; it was all a par value, etc. kind of thing that I didn't understand.)

I didn't know what to do about this, so I just ignored it. It was a trifling sum retroactively awarded seven years earlier.

Did the IRS take that view? Did they hell. Meanwhile Timothy Geithner, SecTreas at the time "forgot" to report $400,000 of income, and the IRS said, "That's OK, Tim. Try not to do it again. After all, who can keep track of a lousy $400,000?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 06:51 PM (YqDXo)

194 192 Point of order: that's not a kink, that's a straight-up perversion.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 06:45 PM (YqDXo)
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Hmmm, we're going to need to put this up to our panel of expert judges. I'm going to say cross-dressing is a kink, but actual surgery (dudes getting fake bewbs) perversion.

Child mutilation is of course demonic and should be punished by death.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 14, 2025 06:50 PM (ZOv7s)
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Liking French maid outfits and such is a kink, i.e., harmless sex play accompanying the main event. Cross-dressing in my book crosses the line into perversion.

Meanwhile I'm totally on board with your policy re child mutilation.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2025 06:55 PM (YqDXo)

195 Falling asleep

Posted by: Skip i at March 14, 2025 07:01 PM (fwDg9)

196 Who owns Citigroup? By Zippia Team - Aug. 21, 2022
Institutional Investors own CitiGroup. The top shareholders of the company include:

The Vanguard Group, Inc (8.27%)

SSga Funds Management, Inc (4.8%)

Berkshire Hathaway (2.84%)

BlackRock Fund Advisors (2.32%)

CitiGroup was formed in October 1998 following a $140 billion merger of Citicorp and Travelers Group to create the world's largest financial services organization.

CitiGroup is headquartered in New York City, New York, and is broken down into four divisions:

CitiGroup Global Markets

Citi's Institutional Clients Group

Citibanamex

Citicorp

CitiGroup is the third largest banking institution in the United States, alongside J.P. Morgan Chase, Bank of America, and Wells Fargo. CitiGroup is incorporated in Delaware. In 2021, CitiGroup had annual revenue of $71.88 billion with over 223,000 employees working for the company.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 14, 2025 07:05 PM (c9zag)

197 Founded June 16, 1812; 212 years ago (as City Bank of New York) [DeepRoots]
Founder Samuel Osgood
Headquarters New York City, U.S.
Key people: Barbara Desoer (chairwoman). Sunil Garg (CEO),

Parent Citigroup

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 14, 2025 07:09 PM (c9zag)

198 Our Democracy.™
Involved in treason, sedition, graft, money laundering, bribery, blackmail, spying on it's own citizens, propaganda, and so much more since our inception.

Posted by: The Deep State at March 14, 2025 07:38 PM (ynpvh)

199 Liberals will never even hear about this unless Trump lays it out in a major speech. But then he can invite people to go to a website with a summary of other examples.

Posted by: Steve O at March 14, 2025 10:52 PM (iY2C2)

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