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Breaking: Putin Agrees to Peace Talks, But Says He Wants to Talk to Trump and Wants to "Remove the Initial Reasons for the Crisis"
That is, he wants Trump to agree that Ukraine will not be allowed in NATO and he will keep the land he's conquered.
He may also have additional demands, like that Ukraine won't be armed by America or Europe, which is probably a non-starter. This is certainly not an agreement to a lasting peace. But peace can only happen if you can get the warring parties to stop shooting at each other and start talking. So this isn't an end to the war, but it is a necessary step if the war is to ever end.Eric Daugherty
@EricLDaugh BREAKING: Russia agrees with U.S./Ukraine ceasefire, but wants to speak to Trump first. PUTIN: "We agree with the proposals for the ceasefire, but our position is based on the assumption that the ceasefire would lead to long-term peace, something that would remove the initial reasons for the crisis." More meetings expected on this situation today.
BREAKING: Russia agrees to temporary ceasefire in Ukraine and is pushing for a long-term peace settlementpic.twitter.com/xTqKqQAYqq
— KanekoaTheGreat (@KanekoaTheGreat) March 13, 2025
🚨 #BREAKING: Russia agrees with the temporary ceasefire in Ukraine after Trump sent Rubio and Witkoff to help broker it.
— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) March 13, 2025
This is the Art of the Deal in action! And COUNTLESS lives will be saved.
Putin thanked President Trump for his efforts, and says he wants to speak with him… pic.twitter.com/OgjgUG42zH
"Russia will just...!"
— Bonchie (@bonchieredstate) March 13, 2025
"Russia doesn't need a ceasefire, it's winning!"
"Russia won't stop until Ukraine surrenders!"
Trump pulled Putin's EU oil and two days later, he's agreeing to a ceasefire as proposed by Trump. https://t.co/5qMe1R50OI
BREAKING: Trump had cut off all Russian oil sales to EU!
— Marc Thiessen 🇺🇸❤️🇺🇦🇹🇼🇮🇱 (@marcthiessen) March 13, 2025
Treasury has ended the Biden exemption that allowed sanctioned Russian banks to process European payments for oil sales. Now no one in Europe can purchase Russian oil pic.twitter.com/zOCqzlc0Di
Biden wanted cheap oil for his reelection, so he wasn't going to squeeze what actually needed to be squeezed. Posted by: LeupoldWhat a statesman. A modern day George Washington. Will this lead to peace? Who knows. But Trump is the only one who's gotten the ball this far. Sure it's on the fifteen yard line but he's the only one that even got the ball on to the field.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 13, 2025 01:20 PM (lCaJd)
I had to do a lot of scrolling down to do that.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 13, 2025 01:20 PM (lCaJd)
I r343w4r3w4r' ed
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 13, 2025 01:21 PM (lCaJd)
Posted by: Leupold at March 13, 2025 01:22 PM (4pwAx)
Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at March 13, 2025 01:22 PM (VE6XX)
ah.
Posted by: ace at March 13, 2025 01:23 PM (KRtlO)
"He may also have additional demands, like that Ukraine won't be armed by America or Europe, which is probably a non-starter."
Why should America guarantee that Europe won't arm someone?
"he wants Trump to agree that Ukraine will not be allowed in NATO."
Sure, fine. It's not like NATO does anything anyway.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 13, 2025 01:23 PM (lCaJd)
Not unless we leave NATO. Otherwise, the next Democrat in the WH will start agitating for Ukraine to join.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 13, 2025 01:24 PM (ExV1e)
THAT PROVES TRUMP IS JUST A PUTIN PUPPET!
-every leftist idiot
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at March 13, 2025 01:24 PM (N1tpc)
Posted by: It's me donna at March 13, 2025 01:25 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: Ryan Frank at March 13, 2025 01:25 PM (fgmuN)
Posted by: SMOD at March 13, 2025 01:25 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 13, 2025 01:25 PM (Q4IgG)
Why should America guarantee that Europe won't arm someone?
"he wants Trump to agree that Ukraine will not be allowed in NATO."
Sure, fine. It's not like NATO does anything anyway.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 13, 2025 01:23 PM (lCaJd)
I'd like to see Trump offer Putin to swap roles in NATO. Russia gets leadership, and we leave. At that point, Putin might be OK with Ukraine entering NATO....
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 13, 2025 01:25 PM (VNX3d)
by now you should understand how Trump works these deals
maximum pressure on all sides
Putin will be made to understand that the deal he makes now will be better than the deal on the table in a week, or a month, or a year
every week will see more weapons systems going to Ukraine and more sanctions on Russia
if he doesn't deal, European combined forces could be carving out a Ukrainian buffer zone from Russian territory by the end of the year
Posted by: TallDave at March 13, 2025 01:25 PM (98TtQ)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 13, 2025 01:25 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: zombie at March 13, 2025 01:26 PM (pMi6S)
Counter with all the land plus 10 miles more.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 13, 2025 01:26 PM (aFSR2)
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Anything less than Russia rising up and eating Putin alive is capitulation to Russia.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 13, 2025 01:26 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 13, 2025 01:26 PM (tjClK)
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 13, 2025 01:26 PM (iFTx/)
All dead to be re-animated
Posted by: SMOD at March 13, 2025 01:27 PM (RHGPo)
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Not unless we leave NATO. Otherwise, the next Democrat in the WH will start agitating for Ukraine to join.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 13, 2025 01:24 PM (ExV1e)
Not seeing the problem here.
Let Two-Tier Keir, Hot For Teacher Macron and that German bint "help" KEEEV. Who knows, maybe the strain will tip those regimes over sooner.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 13, 2025 01:27 PM (Vqx30)
This is how the dems continue to lose.
Posted by: Redenzo at March 13, 2025 01:27 PM (V/pbu)
Posted by: Chamberlain at March 13, 2025 01:27 PM (DobEs)
Trump is a Putin stooge. Why would Putin need to talk to his own stooge before agreeing to anything?
I'M SO CONFUSED!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 13, 2025 01:28 PM (tjClK)
Counter with all the land plus 10 miles more....
Wait
Make that 30 miles. Should be sufficient for a DMZ and practical range of artillery.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 13, 2025 01:28 PM (aFSR2)
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if he doesn't deal, European combined forces could be carving out a Ukrainian buffer zone from Russian territory by the end of the year
Posted by: TallDave at March 13, 2025 01:25 PM (98TtQ)
With *what*?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 13, 2025 01:28 PM (Vqx30)
All we hear is pro-Uke propaganda since the start of this latest phase of the conflict.
Let's hear it.
Posted by: Sharkman at March 13, 2025 01:28 PM (oT2Mg)
Posted by: Leupold
Nah......Biden didn't know what the f*ck was going on from one minute to the next.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 13, 2025 01:29 PM (tjClK)
Posted by: runner at March 13, 2025 01:29 PM (g47mK)
________________
Europeans: "But ... but ... what about us? We matter too! We really do! Or used to, anyway!"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 13, 2025 01:29 PM (YqDXo)
I believe President Trump knew exactly what he was saying when he mentioned during the Z man dustup, that Putin had to put up with being maligned for something he wasn't involved in, Russiagate.
Also, I believe President Trump has already said Ukraine getting back territory conquered by Russia is unrealistic as is Ukraine membership in NATO.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at March 13, 2025 01:29 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 13, 2025 01:29 PM (q3zn6)
I'd like to see Trump offer Putin to swap roles in NATO. Russia gets leadership, and we leave. At that point, Putin might be OK with Ukraine entering NATO....
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
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lol. The way things are going with Eastern Europe, we could swap roles with Russia in that and head up the old Warsaw Pact.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 13, 2025 01:29 PM (lCaJd)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 13, 2025 01:26 PM (GBKbO)
Interesting how a decade plus ago when Dogeater pwned Romney with "the 80s called and want their foreign policy back" burn, the Dems all hooped and hollered, but now they want to march on Moscow.
Posted by: Thrawn at March 13, 2025 01:29 PM (9Ovst)
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 13, 2025 01:29 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 13, 2025 01:30 PM (tjClK)
Posted by: TallDave at March 13, 2025 01:25 PM (98TtQ)
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But only during the week. European militaries have weekends off.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 13, 2025 01:30 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: SMOD at March 13, 2025 01:30 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: TallDave at March 13, 2025 01:25 PM (98TtQ)
With *what*?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 13, 2025 01:28 PM (Vqx30)
With their million man army ! lead by the French and the Germans, or Poles and Germans ...🤣🤣🤣🤣
Posted by: runner at March 13, 2025 01:30 PM (g47mK)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 13, 2025 01:30 PM (2Km7O)
Sure.
We could also consider that Putin has been open to peace talks all along. It's been Zelensky and the EU who've refused to talk to Russia.
I understand that a lot of people won't look at it that way because they're emotionally invested in the idea that Russia is a feckless, backwards country unable to field a decent military who will, nevertheless, be in Paris within two weeks if the west blinks because Putin is evil.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 13, 2025 01:30 PM (ExV1e)
Lots of work to do, but at least they will be talking.
Posted by: Inogame at March 13, 2025 01:30 PM (53oGX)
Interesting how a decade plus ago when Dogeater pwned Romney with "the 80s called and want their foreign policy back" burn, the Dems all hooped and hollered, but now they want to march on Moscow.
Posted by: Thrawn
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Funny the way they never had to answer for that one.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 13, 2025 01:31 PM (lCaJd)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 13, 2025 01:31 PM (tjClK)
Posted by: pookysgirl, enjoying the sunshine at March 13, 2025 01:31 PM (Wt5PA)
Sure, fine. It's not like NATO does anything anyway.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 13, 2025 01:23 PM (lCaJd)
Sure it does. It really should be named the US Pulls Europe's Tits Out Of The Fire Again So That Frogs And Sausage Suckers Can Take An Annual Month Long Paid Holiday In Greece Treaty. But going from the NATO acronym to USPETOOTFASTFASSTAAMLPHIG is kinda confusing.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 13, 2025 01:31 PM (y9nCu)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 13, 2025 01:26 PM (GBKbO)
POOTIN'S STOOGE11!!!
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 13, 2025 01:31 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: eleven at March 13, 2025 01:31 PM (0HaGk)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 13, 2025 01:32 PM (LkLld)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 13, 2025 01:31 PM (tjClK)
Because no government agency ever truly dies.
Posted by: Thrawn at March 13, 2025 01:32 PM (9Ovst)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 13, 2025 01:32 PM (2UnvF)
All we hear is pro-Uke propaganda since the start of this latest phase of the conflict.
Let's hear it.
Posted by: Sharkman at March 13, 2025 01:28 PM (oT2Mg)
I know one of the things they're not happy about is the expansion of NATO towards their border since the Berlin Wall fell, which we explicitly said would not happen. Whether or not you agree with that demand, "our" government fcking lied about expanding an organization that should have been disbanded ~30 years ago.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 13, 2025 01:32 PM (Vqx30)
This Trump fellow is really growing on me!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 13, 2025 01:32 PM (L5An7)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 13, 2025 01:32 PM (euXAH)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 13, 2025 01:30 PM (YqDXo)
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And don't forget the entire month of August.
Posted by: Turn 2 at March 13, 2025 01:32 PM (6TlG5)
Posted by: It's me donna at March 13, 2025 01:25 PM (VE6XX)
Not before I do!
Posted by: Hawaii-5-Judge at March 13, 2025 01:32 PM (53oGX)
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at March 13, 2025 01:32 PM (xPSmT)
Posted by: TallDave at March 13, 2025 01:25 PM (98TtQ)
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But only during the week. European militaries have weekends off.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 13, 2025 01:30 PM (YqDXo)
Don't forget overtime.
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at March 13, 2025 01:32 PM (AiZBA)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 13, 2025 01:30 PM (2Km7O)
They should try pudding.
And seven?
Who's rolling around with half sack?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 13, 2025 01:32 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 13, 2025 01:32 PM (2UnvF)
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I laughed.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at March 13, 2025 01:32 PM (tT6L1)
Nick Sortor's father and sister were SWATed last night -- see his X feed.
Cops broke down his father's door on a false report that the father was shooting his family.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 13, 2025 01:33 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: eleven
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Because NATO threatened to put missiles along Russia's border in Ukraine, a non-NATO country.
Posted by: Leupold at March 13, 2025 01:33 PM (4pwAx)
Posted by: eleven
= = =
To distract the world from the Covid fraud. And thank Putin very much!
Posted by: Anthony Fauci at March 13, 2025 01:33 PM (m0WlR)
Posted by: eleven at March 13, 2025 01:31 PM (0HaGk)
Allowing Ukraine to be in NATO would mean US could put arms on most of Russia's borders and Putin doesn't like that idea.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 13, 2025 01:33 PM (tjClK)
Because Biden and others started dropping the idea that Ukraine would be admitted into NATO.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 13, 2025 01:33 PM (LkLld)
Many wars never end. And probably never will.
Many Greeks still reject the Turkk/Ottoman conquest of Byzantium/Asia Minor and still regard it as Greek territory, and plan to regain it. The Korean War is still ongoing -- we're merely in a temporary ceasefire. Jews/Arabs in the Holy Land -- 'nuff said. The Chinese Civil War is still actively happening with the Nationalist Army in firm possession of Formosa and the Communist forces in control of the mainland -- but an undeclared ceasefire barely holds. The Kurds still look to regain the land stolen from them by the Turkic tribes and Arab invaders. Serbs and Kosovars. Etc etc etc. Even WWI is not technically over - several countries which declared war between 1914-1918 never officially revoked the declaration, to this day.
War is the background noise to civiliation.
Posted by: zombie at March 13, 2025 01:33 PM (pMi6S)
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The people that live there voted to be part of Russia, despite Zelensky's threat to kill anyone who participated in the referendum.
Since legitimate authority only comes from the consent of the governed, that land must be Russian territory now.
Posted by: Methos at March 13, 2025 01:33 PM (Dnobf)
Trump is a Russian stooge!
Posted by: Every libtard everywhere at March 13, 2025 01:33 PM (ufFY8)
At the same time, work a deal with Russia to have a Joint USA/Russian exploratory resource program in the Arctic. Russia's economy teeters on top of a Petroleum heavy menu. It will always be that way, so they need more resources.
Posted by: Orson at March 13, 2025 01:33 PM (dIske)
Posted by: Stu Podaso at March 13, 2025 01:33 PM (mxIX5)
going from the NATO acronym to USPETOOTFASTFASSTAAMLPHIG is kinda confusing.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
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Looks like something I would type if I was first.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 13, 2025 01:34 PM (lCaJd)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 13, 2025 01:34 PM (2Km7O)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 13, 2025 01:34 PM (euXAH)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
Hmmm, the US pulls out of NATO and Russia joins NATO*, and all of Europe then bands together to ensure that the US never again invades Europe.
*NATO will be renamed the Pan-European Clusterfuck of Retards, AKA "PECoR."
Posted by: Sharkman at March 13, 2025 01:34 PM (oT2Mg)
This Trump fellow is really growing on me!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 13, 2025 01:32 PM (L5An7)
"Like a mold."
- - -- - Sid Taking it From Behind From raimondo
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 13, 2025 01:34 PM (tjClK)
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NATO tried to fvck him over with Ukraine. He objected.
Posted by: runner at March 13, 2025 01:34 PM (g47mK)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer
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Imagine if China cut a deal with Mexico and put their soldiers and missiles along the US southern border. We wouldn't just look the other way.
Posted by: Leupold at March 13, 2025 01:34 PM (4pwAx)
Posted by: Every libtard everywhere at March 13, 2025 01:35 PM (ufFY8)
Posted by: Xander Crews at March 13, 2025 01:35 PM (rEmVK)
Nick Sortor's father and sister were SWATed last night -- see his X feed.
Cops broke down his father's door on a false report that the father was shooting his family.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 13, 2025 01:33 PM (w6EFb)
You'd think the idiots would learn from how many times this happens....
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 13, 2025 01:35 PM (Vqx30)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
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Looks like something I would type if I was first.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 13, 2025 01:34 PM (lCaJd
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🤣
Posted by: Turn 2 at March 13, 2025 01:35 PM (6TlG5)
Posted by: zombie at March 13, 2025 01:33 PM (pMi6S)
Well said.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 13, 2025 01:35 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 13, 2025 01:33 PM (tjClK)
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He's kind of a Sensitive Sam when it comes to that.
Posted by: Weasel at March 13, 2025 01:35 PM (eD91D)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 13, 2025 01:35 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: eleven at March 13, 2025 01:35 PM (0HaGk)
Breaking:: Federal judge orders the 101st Airborne and the 2nd Marine Division to Ukraine.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 13, 2025 01:32 PM (2UnvF)
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I laughed.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker
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Get this, I thought, He did what, he did WHAT? and THEN I laughed. I mean, it's plausible...
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 13, 2025 01:36 PM (lCaJd)
Does the US have a veto in NATO like it does on the UN Security Council? That is, could the US unilaterally guarantee that?
Posted by: Oddbob at March 13, 2025 01:36 PM (/y8xj)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at March 13, 2025 01:36 PM (tT6L1)
Imagine if China cut a deal with Mexico and put their soldiers and missiles along the US southern border. We wouldn't just look the other way.
Posted by: Leupold at March 13, 2025 01:34 PM (4pwAx)
Well, yes. I just think there were other ways for Russia to go about that, OTHER than dumping humans into a meat grinder.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 13, 2025 01:36 PM (tjClK)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 13, 2025 01:31 PM (y9nCu)
***
To be fair, some of them holiday in Spain.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 13, 2025 01:36 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: zombie at March 13, 2025 01:33 PM (pMi6S)
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Might be the other way around, at least for certain very long periods in human history, but otherwise well put
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 13, 2025 01:36 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2025 01:36 PM (Q9C8X)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at March 13, 2025 01:36 PM (tT6L1)
I dindu nuffin.
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at March 13, 2025 01:37 PM (AiZBA)
Posted by: Kindltot at March 13, 2025 01:37 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: runner at March 13, 2025 01:38 PM (g47mK)
Uh-huh.
What's the mechanics of that, and enforcing that?
Anyway, yesterday Trump said he's going to enforce his right under the Federal Rules that the defendant's put up the bond for any damages should the injunction be found improper.
Watch the judge-king set the bond as "reasonable" at $1.
Which is a nice trap set by Trump.
Because reasonable would be equivalent to the salary of all those fired.
I'm guessing setting an unreasonable bond is appealable, even in a TRO.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 13, 2025 01:38 PM (q3zn6)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 13, 2025 01:36 PM (lCaJd)
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Yeah, way too much truth in what was said.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at March 13, 2025 01:38 PM (tT6L1)
Thank you all for your responses. It helps.
Posted by: eleven
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Thank you for asking. There are some entire stories I skipped during the Biden admin because it was too infuriating. And some stories I skipped because I didn't have the bandwidth. It helps to get the basics.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 13, 2025 01:38 PM (lCaJd)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 13, 2025 01:32 PM (2UnvF)
Spirit of Aloha!
Posted by: Hawaii-5-Judge at March 13, 2025 01:38 PM (53oGX)
Get the best deal possible and get out of there.
Posted by: torabora at March 13, 2025 01:38 PM (bVLn/)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 13, 2025 01:36 PM (tjClK)
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There are other ways, for sure.
But this is war was a way.
That the Western world didn't see it coming is a problem. Or, they did see it coming and did it anyway. Which is an even bigger problem.
There are no good guys in this fight.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 13, 2025 01:38 PM (GBKbO)
Lotta money involved for the MIC. Lotta prestige involved for the harrumph warriors in the Senate. It's a big lift.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 13, 2025 01:39 PM (ExV1e)
If we left NATO there would be no NATO.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 13, 2025 01:39 PM (LkLld)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 13, 2025 01:33 PM (tjClK)
That can't be true. We agreed not to expand NATO in return for the Soviet Union allowing German reunification.
And we never go back on our word!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 13, 2025 01:39 PM (L5An7)
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Get over it !
--George W. Bush circa 2008 setting NATO goals for Georgia and Ukraine
Posted by: runner at March 13, 2025 01:39 PM (g47mK)
Posted by: Leupold at March 13, 2025 01:34 PM (4pwAx)
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Biden 100% would have not only looked the other way, but blamed the USA for it. China floated spy balloons over critical areas of our country, and Biden all but apologized to China for shooting them down.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 13, 2025 01:39 PM (iFTx/)
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Guess Democrats are gonna need a Voxplainer now.
Posted by: ... at March 13, 2025 01:39 PM (TUfzJ)
Posted by: THE BALTIC STATES at March 13, 2025 01:39 PM (W2EWw)
Mike Dyson. I mean, HYSTERICAL.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 13, 2025 01:39 PM (tjClK)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 13, 2025 01:34 PM (2Km7O)
SERIOUSLY.
We're going to steal bank accounts and yachts and other random shit to prove how "tough" we are on OMG Russia Russia Russia but we'll also quietly keep spending a shit ton of cash on your biggest economic driver.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 13, 2025 01:39 PM (Vqx30)
Posted by: zombie
You can start that timeline of Democrat Wars back in 1846 with the Mexican-American War.
Posted by: Sharkman at March 13, 2025 01:40 PM (oT2Mg)
Posted by: Kindltot"
I like it!
Posted by: eleven at March 13, 2025 01:40 PM (0HaGk)
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Its odd that Russia has saved Western Europe from both Napoleon and Hitler and still has Euros that want to conquer them.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 13, 2025 01:40 PM (pLaQB)
Posted by: garrett at March 13, 2025 01:40 PM (npXNI)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 13, 2025 01:29 PM (lCaJd)
Heh. That's so crazy, it just might work.
And it would be a total mind-fuck to the arrogant Western Europeans.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at March 13, 2025 01:40 PM (g8Ew8)
And we never go back on our word!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 13, 2025 01:39 PM (L5An7)
"My butt's been wiped!"
- - - - Joe Biden, Shitting His Pants
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 13, 2025 01:40 PM (tjClK)
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And even Sweden!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 13, 2025 01:40 PM (GBKbO)
I just think there were other ways for Russia to go about that, OTHER than dumping humans into a meat grinder.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer
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I believe they tried some cyber-fuckery, but unfortunately that's considered illegal and doesn't last long.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 13, 2025 01:40 PM (lCaJd)
Posted by: TallDave at March 13, 2025 01:25 PM (98TtQ)
One wonders why "European combined forces" couldn't have accomplished that during the preceding 3 years.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 13, 2025 01:40 PM (ExV1e)
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Mexico had it coming.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 13, 2025 01:41 PM (pLaQB)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 13, 2025 01:41 PM (/U5Yz)
There are no good guys in this fight.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 13, 2025 01:38 PM (GBKbO)
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Meanwhile, during the finger pointing, tens of thousands of people caught in the middle have died. Yet, our betters believe the war should continue.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at March 13, 2025 01:41 PM (tT6L1)
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If we left NATO there would be no NATO.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 13, 2025 01:39 PM (LkLld)
Oh no!!!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 13, 2025 01:41 PM (Vqx30)
Trump could offer NATO membership to Russia as a the only condition of Ukraine being allowed in NATO. After all, Greece and Turkey, who are sworn enemies, are both in NATO.
Posted by: Minuteman at March 13, 2025 01:41 PM (47/pr)
I saw one analysis that the national guard of practically any US state could beat the combined EU nations.
Posted by: SMOD at March 13, 2025 01:30 PM (RHGPo)
Tell them that they can claim as many Paris originals as they can carry as war booty and you could conquer Europe with Girl Scout Troop 332 from Glen Cove, NY in Long Island
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 13, 2025 01:41 PM (y9nCu)
LOL
Posted by: garrett at March 13, 2025 01:40 PM (npXNI)
"Your wife's a bigfoot, isn't she Barak? You shaved the bitch down and taught her to speak."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 13, 2025 01:41 PM (tjClK)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 13, 2025 01:32 PM (2UnvF)
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Breaking: Federal judge orders Dylan Mulvaney to be made Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 13, 2025 01:42 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 13, 2025 01:25 PM (Q4IgG)
I think the US aid goes away with the first offensive drone attack by Ukraine.
Putin will continue to press until he clears Kursk and anything else that seems useful right up until Ukraine agrees to a temporary truce for talks.
The Euros will be OK with this mostly because they have no other option, and can use the 90 days to figure out what to do
AAAAAAND
No one fights in Ukraine during the spring Mud season.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 13, 2025 01:42 PM (D7oie)
Which is the ultimate veto but it's sort of a one-time thing. I meant according to the actual legalese of the treaty.
Posted by: Oddbob at March 13, 2025 01:42 PM (/y8xj)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 13, 2025 01:42 PM (17s+e)
I saw one analysis that the national guard of practically any US state could beat the combined EU nations.
Posted by: SMOD at March 13, 2025 01:30 PM (RHGPo)
Tell them that they can claim as many Paris originals as they can carry as war booty and you could conquer Europe with Girl Scout Troop 332 from Glen Cove, NY in Long Island
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 13, 2025 01:41 PM (y9nCu)
Ha, now I'm imagining a sequel to "Troop Beverly Hills".
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 13, 2025 01:43 PM (Vqx30)
Posted by: runner at March 13, 2025 01:43 PM (g47mK)
Posted by: runner at March 13, 2025 01:43 PM (g47mK)
This may be the reason they go after family members. The local cops may be more cautious when the target is a known activist. The connection to a family member may not be as obvious.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 13, 2025 01:43 PM (w6EFb)
.......
Fine by me.
Posted by: wth at March 13, 2025 01:44 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at March 13, 2025 01:44 PM (wBaIH)
Posted by: Nova Local at March 13, 2025 01:44 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 13, 2025 01:40 PM (pLaQB)
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And lots of guys still want to bang Christie Brinkley. Which is more likely to happen than what the Euros want.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 13, 2025 01:44 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Rob Crawford at March 13, 2025 01:44 PM (mo/j9)
Because Biden and others started dropping the idea that Ukraine would be admitted into NATO.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 13, 2025 01:33 PM (LkLld)
And the US was arming Kiev to slaughter the ethnic Russians in the Donbas who didn't accept the illegitimate Deep State-installed government in Kiev.
Posted by: Methos at March 13, 2025 01:44 PM (Dnobf)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 13, 2025 01:41 PM (tjClK)
"You married her for her big dick, right, Barack?"
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 13, 2025 01:44 PM (ufFY8)
Ha, now I'm imagining a sequel to "Troop Beverly Hills".
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 13, 2025 01:43 PM (Vqx30)
F Troup II: Eurotrash Boogaloo
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 13, 2025 01:44 PM (tjClK)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at March 13, 2025 01:44 PM (CWTWj)
Moochelle 2028: Goony Goo Hoo
Posted by: ... at March 13, 2025 01:45 PM (TUfzJ)
Posted by: eleven
I think they were sick of the Russian majority Eastern and Southern sections of Ukraine being shelled relentlessly by the Ukrainian majority areas.
Plus, SpongeBrain ShitPants Biden told them a limited military incursion would be groovy.
Posted by: Sharkman at March 13, 2025 01:45 PM (oT2Mg)
Also count on the folks who award the Nobel Peace Prize to embarrass themselves further by not awarding one to Trump.
Posted by: MrExcitement at March 13, 2025 01:45 PM (hOOi9)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 13, 2025 01:45 PM (xTIDn)
Posted by: Nova Local
Cocksuckers gonna suck.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 13, 2025 01:46 PM (/U5Yz)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * scio te ipsum at March 13, 2025 01:46 PM (QGfD2)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 13, 2025 01:41 PM (y9nCu)
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No need to use the Girl Scout shock troops for this. A Bluebird troop will do.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 13, 2025 01:46 PM (YqDXo)
I imagine that was the EU pressuring Biden not to put those sanctions on.
I didn't know Trump had done those sanctions specifically.
This must've been what he did when he warned the Russians last week in a post, because they'd been "pounding Ukraine" for a few days.
If Putin goes along with the ceasefire before he drives the Ukes out of Kursk, I'd be very surprised.
That seems to have been his main priority on the battlefield since Trump was sworn in.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at March 13, 2025 01:46 PM (6ydKt)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 13, 2025 01:46 PM (wq0D5)
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Switzerland has 4 official languages. Holland has two.
Why should multi-national, bi-lingual Ukraine force just one ? Unless they are a bunch of nazis.
Posted by: runner at March 13, 2025 01:46 PM (g47mK)
Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at March 13, 2025 01:46 PM (MkuC5)
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This may be the reason they go after family members. The local cops may be more cautious when the target is a known activist. The connection to a family member may not be as obvious.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 13, 2025 01:43 PM (w6EFb)
Ah, good point, although the bigger issue to me is that cops really *do* need to be "de-militarized" (which is NOT de-funded). One of the many things the commies have fcked up is they've gotten the police and military ROE essentially swapped.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 13, 2025 01:46 PM (Vqx30)
From what I heard, Moochelle's podcast was nothing but her ragging on Barky and what PITA he is.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 13, 2025 01:46 PM (w6EFb)
Cocksuckers gonna suck.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 13, 2025 01:46 PM (/U5Yz)
*ears perk up*
Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at March 13, 2025 01:47 PM (tjClK)
Posted by: Hawaiian Judge
go blork yerself up yer squeakhole, ya pineapple headed commie.
Posted by: BifBewalski at March 13, 2025 01:47 PM (9K/E2)
We can guarantee we won't arm them. I don't think Europe has the bank account to arm them.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 13, 2025 01:47 PM (WZaJc)
Russia has tried to become part of the western economy since the fall of the Soviet Union but are constantly rebuffed. There's a reason that Putin said that Russia would happily enter into a trade agreement with the US for rare earth minerals plus aluminum.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 13, 2025 01:47 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: eleven
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Because NATO threatened to put missiles along Russia's border in Ukraine, a non-NATO country.
Posted by: Leupold at March 13, 2025 01:33 PM (4pwAx)
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Meanwhile Russia now has 880 NEW miles with NATO on their border called Finland. And Finland wants the territory Russia stole from them in WW2 back.
Japan wants its stolen land back too.
Posted by: torabora at March 13, 2025 01:47 PM (bVLn/)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 13, 2025 01:46 PM (YqDXo)
Campfire Girls have better uniforms.
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at March 13, 2025 01:47 PM (AiZBA)
Posted by: Oddbob at March 13, 2025 01:36 PM (/y8xj)
I think, since NATO obligates countries that are part of it to go to war, any new admittances have to have unanimous approval, so yes.
Posted by: Methos at March 13, 2025 01:47 PM (Dnobf)
HAHAHAHAHAHAH!
I crack myself up, sometimes.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at March 13, 2025 01:48 PM (6K6Eu)
That is, he wants Trump to agree that Ukraine will not be allowed in NATO and he will keep the land he's conquered.
He may also have additional demands, like that Ukraine won't be armed by America or Europe, which is probably a non-starter.
Did he not watch what happened to Zelenkyyyyyyyy when Zelenskyyyyyyy started making demands instead of signing the ceasefire agreement?
Posted by: FeatherBlade at March 13, 2025 01:48 PM (hB7mE)
It's probably the single most irresponsible statement by a head of state I've heard in my lifetime.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at March 13, 2025 01:48 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * scio te ipsum at March 13, 2025 01:46 PM (QGfD2)
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Surrender is always a good bet.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 13, 2025 01:48 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: ... at March 13, 2025 01:48 PM (TUfzJ)
Posted by: Minuteman at March 13, 2025 01:41 PM (47/pr)
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The acquired land by Russia is going to be the deal breaker IMO. BUT, there is a way around that...sort of. Right now Ukraine is under Martial Law. So any effort to counter Zelenskyy's whims are met with sedition charges. He's gone so far as to outlaw opposition political parties. However, if a part of the ceasefire removes martial law, and a portion of Ukraine is allowed to vote their future. They could do a referendum vote to determine secession or a portion of Ukraine (which just happens to be very pro-Russia right down to speaking Russian). In short put on the Democracy show and allow the people to choose their fate. I think Russia would be satisfied with the results, because most of the land they took holds Russian sympathizers and loyalists.
Posted by: Orson at March 13, 2025 01:49 PM (dIske)
Posted by: eddie at March 13, 2025 01:49 PM (4+Tgo)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 13, 2025 01:49 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Jan Brady at March 13, 2025 01:49 PM (HcoTw)
Posted by: The ARC of History!
Wondering how many assets the Ukrainian HUR has in the US?
Posted by: Sock Monkey * scio te ipsum at March 13, 2025 01:49 PM (QGfD2)
Posted by: SpeakingOf at March 13, 2025 01:46 PM (6ydKt)
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They want cheap dirty energy, as long as they don't make it themselves, almost as much as they want invading hordes raping the little people.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 13, 2025 01:49 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Judge Ali, First of his Name at March 13, 2025 01:49 PM (Kdgvd)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 13, 2025 01:50 PM (/U5Yz)
And shortly after the 2008 NATO Summit in Bucharest where he talked about the idea of admitting Georgia and Ukraine into NATO Putin invaded Georgia.
Everyone in power knew what would happen if Biden floated the idea of NATO membership for Ukraine. The media covered for Biden and never mentions this but it's fact.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 13, 2025 01:50 PM (LkLld)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 13, 2025 01:46 PM (Vqx30)
That is an excellent point.
Cops get away with shooting unarmed people, while soldiers go to jail for shooting an armed terrorist before he fires.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 13, 2025 01:50 PM (L5An7)
Tin Cup can relate
Posted by: ace at March 13, 2025 01:50 PM (KRtlO)
It's probably the single most irresponsible statement by a head of state I've heard in my lifetime.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at March 13, 2025 01:48 PM (tT6L1)
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Yep. I almost fell out of my chair when I read he'd said that.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 13, 2025 01:50 PM (YqDXo)
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The Paolo understands.
Posted by: Paolo at March 13, 2025 01:51 PM (bVLn/)
The Ukes have been almost completely driven out of Kursk, which is why Putin appeared at Kursk military headquarters for the first time yesterday - he wants to be associated with the victory.
The Russians even recaptured the famous supermarket in Sudzha, which was the backdrop for many triumphal Ukrainian pictures.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 13, 2025 01:51 PM (xTIDn)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 13, 2025 01:36 PM (tjClK)
They've been trying those other ways for 30 years and, yet, NATO gets ever closer. At some point you've been pushed enough.
I guess they could have nuked Paris to get everyone's attention.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 13, 2025 01:51 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at March 13, 2025 01:51 PM (CWTWj)
Posted by: Harlock at March 13, 2025 01:51 PM (THcWg)
Tin Cup can relate
Posted by: ace at March 13, 2025 01:50 PM (KRtlO)
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Shoulda used his 7-iron instead.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 13, 2025 01:51 PM (GBKbO)
Putin will hopefully also demand the following for peace:
The people behind the 2014 coup and Pereshenko
Peter Daszak and Tony Fauci
And the people that blew up the Russian/German pipeline
Posted by: 18-1 at March 13, 2025 01:52 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: torabora at March 13, 2025 01:52 PM (bVLn/)
Russia tends to be a bit sensitive about their European border, being as they've been invaded by Poland, twice by Germany, Charles XII and Napoleon.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
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It's crazy to me, having an American perspective, that the Europeans harken back to pre-modern history for their political decisions. I don't question the validity of this, but it's still hard for me to wrap my brain around.
I was listening to some Eastern European guy (can't remember where he came from) at a dinner table carrying on passionately about something that happened in his country vs another country and the leader standing on a hill and making a speech threatening this and promising that and from details, I realized this wasn't the early 20th century he was talking about, as I'd assumed. "When did this take place?" I asked. "946 A.D." he said, and went on talking.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 13, 2025 01:52 PM (lCaJd)
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You can't do that! The occupied area is filled with Russian sympathizers and loyalists, of course they're going to vote to secede!
- Democracy 'Experts'
Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 13, 2025 01:53 PM (wq0D5)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 13, 2025 01:45 PM (xTIDn)
Yeah, that's *another* thing. You fcking ungrateful arrogant cvnts might be trying to MURDER our politicians (or even rando citizens) because you aren't happy with them *maybe* putting us first? I hope OrangeManBad can show this to LIVs so they don't freak when we tell KEEEV to eat shit.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 13, 2025 01:53 PM (Vqx30)
All golf fans know Paige Spiranic is the greatest golfer of all time.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 13, 2025 01:53 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: haffhowershower at March 13, 2025 01:53 PM (NMT5x)
Posted by: ace at March 13, 2025 01:50 PM (KRtlO)
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Never seen that. Is it a good movie?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at March 13, 2025 01:54 PM (6K6Eu)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at March 13, 2025 01:54 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer
My guess is it's a retirement gig for EU/US flag officers who can't get a DefCon contract.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 13, 2025 01:54 PM (mlg/3)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 13, 2025 01:53 PM (w6EFb)
Udderly true
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 13, 2025 01:54 PM (NtVYv)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 13, 2025 01:52 PM (lCaJd)
Damn. And we thought reparations grifters were bad.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 13, 2025 01:54 PM (i24o9)
This unilateral move did not just show Russia who had the whip hand, but also every EU country... and China... and India... and Viet Nam... and everyone else out there.
In one thread below, we see Trump suing the banks for being Political... but then he uses the banks for Politics...
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 13, 2025 01:54 PM (QAkQ3)
Posted by: torabora at March 13, 2025 01:54 PM (bVLn/)
Posted by: ... at March 13, 2025 01:54 PM (TUfzJ)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 13, 2025 01:53 PM (w6EFb)
*kicks rock*
- - - - - - Grace Charis
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 13, 2025 01:55 PM (tjClK)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 13, 2025 01:53 PM (w6EFb)
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The way she's built, I'm surprised she can follow through on her swing.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at March 13, 2025 01:55 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: We set it up... at March 13, 2025 01:55 PM (PdYsM)
Posted by: ace at March 13, 2025 01:50 PM (KRtlO)
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Never seen that. Is it a good movie?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at March 13, 2025 01:54 PM (6K6Eu)
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I've always liked it more than Bull Durham. But they're essentially the same movie.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 13, 2025 01:55 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at March 13, 2025 01:55 PM (MkuC5)
7 is not an even number, how can you only have one ball in the water ?
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 13, 2025 01:55 PM (NtVYv)
All golf fans know Paige Spiranic is the greatest golfer of all time.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 13, 2025 01:53 PM (w6EFb)
Gracie Charis enters chat ...
Posted by: browndog knows that area well at March 13, 2025 01:55 PM (TTAGa)
Before Paige, I had no idea that the Physics of Golf were so enthralling.
Posted by: garrett at March 13, 2025 01:55 PM (npXNI)
Posted by: Coach Walz at March 13, 2025 01:55 PM (wzAuc)
1) Non-citizens were allowed to vote
2) Citizens voted multiple times
3) The ballots were not kept secured
Posted by: 18-1 at March 13, 2025 01:55 PM (t0Rmr)
One of the top comments:
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ROFL! I don't even have to scroll up to know that this is about Michelle's podcast on YT.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 13, 2025 01:55 PM (lCaJd)
Tin Cup can relate
Posted by: ace
I blame the filthy Canadian geese.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 13, 2025 01:55 PM (/U5Yz)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at March 13, 2025 01:54 PM (6K6Eu)
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Good? No. Entertaining? Sure. But, get the one from the bargain bin. Don't ever pay full price.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at March 13, 2025 01:56 PM (tT6L1)
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Putin will hopefully also demand the following for peace:
The people behind the 2014 coup and Pereshenko
Peter Daszak and Tony Fauci
And the people that blew up the Russian/German pipeline
Posted by: 18-1 at March 13, 2025 01:52 PM (t0Rmr)
"Ok Vlad, if you insist, but our transport isn't landing and no promises on them having parachutes." -- Donny Two Scoops, not very likely but I would laugh
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 13, 2025 01:56 PM (Vqx30)
And now he's in a Ukrainian prison.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 13, 2025 01:56 PM (LkLld)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 13, 2025 01:54 PM (QAkQ3)
This is why domestic and international are two different spheres.
Political parties don't get to use the State to treat other parties like foreign adversaries.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 13, 2025 01:56 PM (VoAdT)
Posted by: torabora at March 13, 2025 01:56 PM (bVLn/)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 13, 2025 01:20 PM (lCaJd)
I think I ready the other day why you do this.
Reply sllsdkhgvnreoi48923lshlhg9348yr032 if you agree!
Posted by: haffhowershower at March 13, 2025 01:56 PM (NMT5x)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 13, 2025 01:52 PM (lCaJd)
Damn. And we thought reparations grifters were bad.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 13, 2025 01:54 PM (i24o9)
Clearly all descendants of the Slavic People need reparations, as the very Word Slave... came because of their Slavery in Rome.
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 13, 2025 01:56 PM (QAkQ3)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 13, 2025 01:55 PM (GBKbO)
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I enjoyed Bull Durham. Perhaps I'll give it a look.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at March 13, 2025 01:56 PM (6K6Eu)
Posted by: publius"
Oh my yes. And she wasn't the only one.
Posted by: eleven at March 13, 2025 01:56 PM (0HaGk)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 13, 2025 01:53 PM (w6EFb)
Gracie Charis enters chat ...
Much like their actual golf scores
Paige > Grace
Posted by: 18-1 at March 13, 2025 01:56 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 13, 2025 01:56 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 13, 2025 01:55 PM (NtVYv)
I can do that.
Posted by: Lance Armstrong at March 13, 2025 01:56 PM (AiZBA)
Posted by: Maj. Healey
Why would the EU need REM? It's not like they are manufacturing anything anyway.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 13, 2025 01:56 PM (WZaJc)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 13, 2025 01:55 PM (GBKbO)
Ohhhh no ...
Costner's much more believable as a baseball player than a golfer.
That swing sucked ...
Posted by: browndog knows that area well at March 13, 2025 01:56 PM (TTAGa)
the land stuff may be negotiable ... the reason Putin needs to keep the land is that then he can keep troops there ... not to attack Ukraine but to ensure Ukraine doesn't return to shelling the Dombas ... if Trump can figure out some way to get Ukraine to stop breaking the Minsk accords ... maybe, just maybe Putin will give back some land ...
Posted by: The Dark Lord at March 13, 2025 01:57 PM (DBAaD)
Posted by: eleven at March 13, 2025 01:31 PM (0HaGk)
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The Crimean peninsula, with it's Russian Naval base in Sevastopol, basically.
You control Crimea, you can control the Black Sea, if you need to. Also, it's nice to have if you want to get to the Mediterranean.
And he needed the Donbass to get there from Russia without depending on bridges and ferries.
He did not want NATO to have Ukraine because it would have hemmed Russia in surrounding Crimea and prevented a strong defense of the homeland itself.
Most invasions of Russia from the West have come through Ukraine. So the Russians don't want to give anybody a head start by allowing foreign bases right on their doorstep.
There are more reasons, but those are the main ones, I'd say.
That's what I think, anyhow.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at March 13, 2025 01:57 PM (6ydKt)
Ohhhh no ...
Costner's much more believable as a baseball player than a golfer.
That swing sucked ...
Posted by: browndog knows that area well at March 13, 2025 01:56 PM (TTAGa)
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Eh, I kinda grew up with it. My dad loves it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 13, 2025 01:57 PM (GBKbO)
1) Non-citizens were allowed to vote
2) Citizens voted multiple times
3) The ballots were not kept secured
Posted by: 18-1 at March 13, 2025 01:55 PM (t0Rmr)
Wait a second those conditions sound familiar...
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at March 13, 2025 01:57 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: eleven at March 13, 2025 01:57 PM (0HaGk)
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 13, 2025 01:55 PM (NtVYv)
I can do that.
Posted by: Lance Armstrong
Ja!
Posted by 88
Posted by: rickb223 at March 13, 2025 01:57 PM (WZaJc)
I was listening to some Eastern European guy (can't remember where he came from) at a dinner table carrying on passionately about something that happened in his country vs another country and the leader standing on a hill and making a speech threatening this and promising that and from details, I realized this wasn't the early 20th century he was talking about, as I'd assumed. "When did this take place?" I asked. "946 A.D." he said, and went on talking.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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Most of the world where history is taught has that problem. Victimhood from the past becomes weaponized to do have pols do stupid things as a society today. We imported that idiocy with the whole 1619 mythos and other such our group good, their group bad nonsense.
Posted by: whig at March 13, 2025 01:57 PM (ctrM5)
All we hear is pro-Uke propaganda since the start of this latest phase of the conflict.
Let's hear it.
Posted by: Sharkman at March 13, 2025 01:28 PM (oT2Mg)
Putin has been interviewed by western journalists including Tucker Carlson.
He has been very clear in words and actions that all he wants is the west to back off trying to surround Russia and overthrowing every former USSR government that is not explicitly anti Russia.
For Ukraine specifically he wants to keep the parts with ethnic Russians. Just like in Georgia.
Overall seems reasonable. None of this would have happened if Victoria Nuland and Hillary Clinton hadnt been so power and money hungry. They have a lot of blood on their hands.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 13, 2025 01:58 PM (uCjyK)
The case to go after is that a handful of pardons were signed by the autopen, which were dated and stated to be signed in Washington at a time when Joe Biden was on vacation in the Virgin Islands.
Sue to invalidate those pardons first.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 13, 2025 01:58 PM (xTIDn)
Posted by: eleven
Globe.
You just pissed of the flat earfers.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 13, 2025 01:58 PM (WZaJc)
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 13, 2025 01:55 PM (NtVYv)
I can do that.
Posted by: Lance Armstrong at March 13, 2025 01:56 PM (AiZBA)
Fair enough
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 13, 2025 01:58 PM (NtVYv)
Posted by: Field Marshall Ursula von der Leyen at March 13, 2025 01:58 PM (paSBy)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 13, 2025 01:58 PM (mlg/3)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb)
Udderly true
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway
......
She is mountains of fun to watch.
Posted by: wth at March 13, 2025 01:58 PM (v0R5T)
And now he's in a Ukrainian prison./i]
A number of Uke pols are in prison, and I don't mean the ones that were close to Russia.
Lil Z imprisoned his chief of staff for making the mistake of telling the truth about a Uke missile hitting a Uke apartment building while they were trying to claim Vlad was targeting their civilians...
Keep in mind this is the guy that built lil Z's political career from nothing (well probably with the help of the CIA)
Posted by: 18-1 at March 13, 2025 01:58 PM (t0Rmr)
Holy fvck I'm listening to the opening of Michelle's podcast and it could be cut and pasted STRAIGHT from her whinings and bitchings of 2008. Lord, even the FIRST WORDS in the description, talking about her humble, oppressed beginnings: "In a small shared bedroom in a rented house on Euclid Avenue in Chicago..."
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 13, 2025 01:59 PM (lCaJd)
Posted by: runner at March 13, 2025 01:59 PM (g47mK)
To a chemist, that means the lanthanides, but I get the impression that throwing "rare earths" around actually have no idea what metals those are, exactly.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 13, 2025 01:59 PM (YqDXo)
Joining NATO requires unanimous consent from all existing members. Unfortunately, if the US were to say no, they'd just ask again once there's a new President.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 13, 2025 01:59 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: eleven at March 13, 2025 01:59 PM (0HaGk)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 13, 2025 01:58 PM (mlg/3)
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I bet there's an Indian movie with just that premise.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 13, 2025 01:59 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 13, 2025 01:58 PM (uCjyK)
IIRC, what predated that intervention was Soros suggesting that he wanted to invest in Ukraine.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 13, 2025 01:59 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: ... at March 13, 2025 01:59 PM (TUfzJ)
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Overall seems reasonable. None of this would have happened if Victoria Nuland and Hillary Clinton hadnt been so power and money hungry. They have a lot of blood on their hands.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 13, 2025 01:58 PM (uCjyK)
The InfoWars reporter who was murdered in Austin was investigating Nuland. Coincidence, I'm sure.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 13, 2025 02:00 PM (Vqx30)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 13, 2025 01:52 PM (lCaJd)
Resentments never die in Europe and the surrounding regions. They're always boiling just under the surface.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at March 13, 2025 02:00 PM (g8Ew8)
1) Non-citizens were allowed to vote
2) Citizens voted multiple times
3) The ballots were not kept secured
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I was assured by the same FNM that these are the signs of secure elections here in the USofA. Huh.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 13, 2025 02:00 PM (wq0D5)
I see someone named Rachel Stuhlmann is said to be the Paige Spiranac of tennis.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 13, 2025 02:00 PM (w6EFb)
You control Crimea, you can control the Black Sea, if you need to. Also, it's nice to have if you want to get to the Mediterranean.
And he needed the Donbass to get there from Russia without depending on bridges and ferries.
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Also the reason why half of the Turkish Navy, during the
cold.war, was made up of submarines.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 13, 2025 02:00 PM (W/lyH)
Since golf players tend to be male and wealthy, if you are young woman looking to uh, move up in the world, it makes a lot of sense.
Kind of like a guy going to a 50 Shades reading club I guess.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 13, 2025 02:00 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 13, 2025 01:58 PM (mlg/3)
Set up and run by the dryer sock gnomes?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 13, 2025 02:00 PM (i24o9)
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Ahem.
Posted by: The Turkish Straits at March 13, 2025 02:01 PM (6K6Eu)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 13, 2025 01:59 PM (YqDXo)
Nuh uh ...
Posted by: Scientific American at March 13, 2025 02:01 PM (TTAGa)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 13, 2025 01:58 PM (mlg/3)
Classified.
Posted by: Agent Franks at March 13, 2025 02:01 PM (Vqx30)
Traditional Golf Swings are great and all...but the only thing that matters in a golf swing is the interface of the club surface and the ball at contact.
How you get the club face to the ball is essentially irrelevant, so long as you are in control of that one component.
Now. Doing that consistently and without employing the traditional mechanics is difficult for many...but if you look at the Hockey Players who are really good at golf, many of their swings are atrocious. Yet they hit the ball with power and control.
Posted by: garrett at March 13, 2025 02:01 PM (npXNI)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Ballywood sounds ghey.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 13, 2025 02:01 PM (mlg/3)
Posted by: ... at March 13, 2025 02:02 PM (TUfzJ)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 13, 2025 01:58 PM (mlg/3)
We used to climb the fences around a golf course and fish in the early morning. We caught bass and perch. It was good fishing.
Posted by: Lance Armstrong at March 13, 2025 02:02 PM (AiZBA)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 13, 2025 01:58 PM (mlg/3)
I keep that little bastard in business.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 13, 2025 02:02 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: Chuck Martel
Until we can agree on the shape of the table, no agreement is possible! I propose an octagon, because it will remind us of a "Stop" sign, as in "stop fighting"!
Posted by: zombie at March 13, 2025 02:02 PM (pMi6S)
Posted by: garrett at March 13, 2025 02:01 PM (npXNI)
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Happy Gilmore is another movie of my childhood. Really, the only Adam Sandler movie that made the cut, it seems.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 13, 2025 02:02 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at March 13, 2025 02:02 PM (AiZBA)
Posted by: Minuteman
The more I think about it the more I like this idea. Tie Russia to its western neighbors, make it harder for them to play footsie with China, get us out of the entangling alliance on NoOurContinent, make all problems between NEW NATO members... not our problem.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at March 13, 2025 02:02 PM (hB7mE)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Ballywood sounds ghey.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 13, 2025 02:01 PM (mlg/3)
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I can only understand this if you present the information to me in a flamboyant musical number with dancing on top of elephants.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 13, 2025 02:02 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Romeo13
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Big difference between domestic and foreign countries. Just like the Bill of Rights applies to US citizens but only partially to foreigners here.
There are no citizens of the world deserving universal rights. Trying to do that leads to madness.
Posted by: whig at March 13, 2025 02:03 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 13, 2025 02:03 PM (LkLld)
Posted by: runner at March 13, 2025 02:03 PM (g47mK)
Posted by: Bad ideas at March 13, 2025 02:03 PM (PdYsM)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb)
.......
Holy tennis balls, Batman.
Posted by: wth at March 13, 2025 02:03 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: TexasDan at March 13, 2025 02:04 PM (GHTlm)
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She drove off a cliff. All's well, now.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 13, 2025 02:04 PM (pLaQB)
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons
Which is a super excellent reason for us to never get involved with them.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at March 13, 2025 02:04 PM (hB7mE)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 13, 2025 01:58 PM (mlg/3)
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If the diver does that in Florida he risks meeting up with an interdimensional alligator.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 13, 2025 02:04 PM (YqDXo)
The Hole is its Home.
Send the Ball Home.
Posted by: garrett at March 13, 2025 02:04 PM (npXNI)
But then again I would watch Ow, My Balls.
Posted by: eleven at March 13, 2025 02:04 PM (0HaGk)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Same plot in Happy Gilmore as Tincup. Win the girl, beat the asshole, and take the trophy.
Posted by: whig at March 13, 2025 02:04 PM (ctrM5)
One of the top comments:
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Oh dear, we're going to need a whole thread.
"After reading these comments this is the first time in my life, Im proud of my country."
lolol
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 13, 2025 02:04 PM (lCaJd)
I don't disagee at all ...
My point being that Costner never looked comfortable swinging his swing.
It was manufactured, not owned
Posted by: browndog knows that area well at March 13, 2025 02:04 PM (TTAGa)
From one of the Bulgarian-Byzantine wars perhaps?
Serbia has a lot of grievances that show up later, when the Muslims invaded the Balkans.
One of their big ones, which the FNM ignored, was their sort of victory sort of loss in the Battle of Kosovo against the Ottomans. They killed the Sultan and most of his army, but also lost most of their own. So they won but...the Ottomans just called up more men from other parts of their empire and went on conquering (this is a pro-gamer move for those that play strategy games)
Posted by: 18-1 at March 13, 2025 02:05 PM (t0Rmr)
Agreement on the establishment of the Commonwealth of Independent States -
Belavezha Accords. A plan between Russia, Belarus, and Ukraine to create a Commonwealth of Independent States upon the collapse of the USSR.
It basically carved up the former Soviet Union. Crimea was a semi-autonomous region, ethnically aligned with Russia. Before the war there was much ethnic strife among those that identified as Russian and those that identified as Ukrainian. The regions resorted to armed conflict before Russia got involved.
IMO it was Russia's place to resolve the issue. The Ukrainians and the US (and NATO) basically ignored this treaty.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 13, 2025 02:05 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: World War One Has Entered The Chat at March 13, 2025 02:05 PM (dDLWu)
Posted by: Rob Crawford at March 13, 2025 01:44 PM (mo/j9)
I assume you've recently been hired as an International Affairs writer for a major publication. That's their take as well.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 13, 2025 02:05 PM (ExV1e)
I don't disagee at all ...
My point being that Costner never looked comfortable swinging his swing.
It was manufactured, not owned
Posted by: browndog knows that area well at March 13, 2025 02:04 PM (TTAGa)
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Well, at least he does an English accent really well.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 13, 2025 02:05 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 13, 2025 02:06 PM (tjClK)
Posted by: TallDave
That is hilarious. European "combined forces" would have been pushed back west of the Rhine within three weeks.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 13, 2025 02:06 PM (ZPDaM)
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Keep your Big Gay and Islam curious alliance off of Russia!
-Putin, probably
Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 13, 2025 02:06 PM (wq0D5)
Posted by: Cheri at March 13, 2025 02:06 PM (oiNtH)
@ImMeme0
Pro-Hamas protester in NYC:
“You fvcking dumb b*tch. I love Hamas."
Terrorists are already here!
https://tinyurl.com/4ph6v8se
Posted by: redridinghood at March 13, 2025 02:06 PM (NpAcC)
https://tinyurl.com/2b7pxyas
The main thing that gets my attention is how relieved he sounds to be dealing with a sane administration.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 13, 2025 02:06 PM (jbnUc)
Posted by: ryukyu at March 13, 2025 02:06 PM (251iY)
Posted by: eleven at March 13, 2025 02:06 PM (0HaGk)
"After reading these comments this is the first time in my life, Im proud of my country."
lolol
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 13, 2025 02:04 PM (lCaJd)
Yeah. Just saw the Yellowflash put up a vid about it...it's gonna be great fodder until they delete all those comments.
Posted by: garrett at March 13, 2025 02:07 PM (npXNI)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 13, 2025 02:06 PM (tjClK)
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And this will be the one legacy sequel to a not very good original film that breaks the trend and becomes a classic as much beloved, if not moreso, than the original!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 13, 2025 02:07 PM (GBKbO)
by now you should understand how Trump works these deals
maximum pressure on all sides
Putin will be made to understand that the deal he makes now will be better than the deal on the table in a week, or a month, or a year
every week will see more weapons systems going to Ukraine and more sanctions on Russia
if he doesn't deal, European combined forces could be carving out a Ukrainian buffer zone from Russian territory by the end of the year
Posted by: TallDave at March 13, 2025 01:25 PM (98TtQ)
Note that this hits the EU as well, since they can't buy the oil until the peace is settled and they have no part of the negotiation. Globalists and Neocons lose big.
Hell in 5 years both the US and RUS may be back defending Europe from the EU. note his proposal to move US troops to 'friendly' NATO countries.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 13, 2025 02:07 PM (n7h9X)
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 13, 2025 01:55 PM (NtVYv)
I can do that.
Posted by: Lance Armstrong
Ja!
Posted by 88
Posted by: rickb223 at March 13, 2025 01:57 PM (WZaJc)
Me three! I mean me one!
Posted by: Johnny With His Pekcer In His Hand, Off to the Rodeo at March 13, 2025 02:07 PM (NMT5x)
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons
Which is a super excellent reason for us to never get involved with them.
Posted by: FeatherBlade
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That is pretty much a description of all of the world. That is why Americans via the CIA monkeying around with other country's governments leads to bad outcomes. We tend to focus siding with today's "good guy" rather than analyze why the system acts as its does. Removal of Assad is a perfect example of precipitating a blood bath based on Assad's coalition of minorities facing off against the numerically dominant Sunnis.
Posted by: whig at March 13, 2025 02:07 PM (ctrM5)
Fun fact, after winning the 2019 election lil Z tried to arrest Poroshenko who fled the country. This is something of a Ukrainian tradition seeing as they are a corrupt shithole.
After the war started the US leaned on him and he let Poroshenko come back though and Poroshenko made a big show in front of the cameras as to how involved he was in the war effort (note he wasn't).
Not sure where he is now but I'm going to guess in one of his Western European dachas.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 13, 2025 02:07 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb)
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If the WNBA wants to make it as a viable organization they need to get rid of the black dykes and draft Rachel Stuhlmann and Paige Spiranac and others like them. Amirite?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 13, 2025 02:08 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: MAC V SOG at March 13, 2025 02:08 PM (P4Pk9)
Nailed it.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 13, 2025 02:08 PM (LkLld)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * scio te ipsum at March 13, 2025 02:08 PM (QGfD2)
Can we start to daydream about the US leaving NATO? The UN?
Posted by: TexasDan
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The UN is my dream. And the converse: UN out of US. I suppose a lot of expensive Manhattan eateries and drinkeries will lose their clientele, but I'm sure the UN would see to it that its new headquarters would be in a city with plenty of business for 5-star chefs.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 13, 2025 02:08 PM (lCaJd)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March
When did this happen? There was an Infowaers guy who came to our church a couple of times. Probably 10 years ago.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 13, 2025 02:09 PM (r+CuY)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 13, 2025 02:05 PM (GBKbO)
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Uh...
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at March 13, 2025 02:09 PM (6K6Eu)
If the WNBA wants to make it as a viable organization they need to get rid of the black dykes and draft Rachel Stuhlmann and Paige Spiranac and others like them. Amirite?
Make it a taller version of lingerie league football.
Then people would watch...
Posted by: 18-1 at March 13, 2025 02:09 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Didn't some actress said something about marriage being the triumph of optimism over experience or some such?
Posted by: whig at March 13, 2025 02:09 PM (ctrM5)
If you want to pack the stadiums, there can be no other way.
Posted by: garrett at March 13, 2025 02:09 PM (npXNI)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley
Paramilitary rapid reaction force that goes in guns blazing based upon anonymous tips is a bad idea
But I don't think they will ever figure that out.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 13, 2025 02:10 PM (aFSR2)
Posted by: whig at March 13, 2025 02:09 PM (ctrM5)
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Actresses can talk?!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 13, 2025 02:10 PM (GBKbO)
If the WNBA wants to make it as a viable organization they need to get rid of the black dykes and draft Rachel Stuhlmann and Paige Spiranac and others like them. Amirite?
Make it a taller version of lingerie league football.
Then people would watch...
Posted by: 18-1
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Naked Olympics for the win. Make sure that the schedules for the appropriate sexes are clearly designated though.
Posted by: whig at March 13, 2025 02:10 PM (ctrM5)
MSNBC host Andrew Ross Sorkin claimed Thursday on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” that travel to the United States was dropping because foreigners were saying they did not “like” the Trump administration’s policies.
Posted by: I I'm gumby damn it! at March 13, 2025 02:10 PM (E45hQ)
Posted by: ryukyu at March 13, 2025 02:06 PM (251iY)
Trump getting Z 's signature on a ceasefire and resources deal means Trump effectively has power of attorney for Ukraine. Z is the crazy granny in the attic.
I avoid the war porn - its too tactical anyhow to see how the flow of a war is going. Even in a huge win some dudes can get popped by a lots sniper.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 13, 2025 02:10 PM (n7h9X)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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That sounds like something Hitchcock might have said.
Posted by: whig at March 13, 2025 02:11 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: ... at March 13, 2025 02:11 PM (TUfzJ)
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 13, 2025 02:11 PM (PMtkd)
Posted by: MAC V SOG
No.
A Federal district has just issued a TRO on Putin preventing him from speaking to Trump
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 13, 2025 02:12 PM (aFSR2)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 13, 2025 02:08 PM (YqDXo)
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I foresee a bonanza for whiplash doctors.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at March 13, 2025 02:12 PM (6K6Eu)
Posted by: ... at March 13, 2025 02:11 PM (TUfzJ)
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Z man saved democracy in Ukraine by getting rid of elections!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at March 13, 2025 02:12 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley
Paramilitary rapid reaction force that goes in guns blazing based upon anonymous tips is a bad idea
But I don't think they will ever figure that out.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 13, 2025 02:10 PM (aFSR2)
Have they ever saved anyone with one of these raids? Caught the dude before the act? Ban them and most of these paramilitary forces by cops.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 13, 2025 02:12 PM (n7h9X)
This unilateral move did not just show Russia who had the whip hand, but also every EU country... and China... and India... and Viet Nam... and everyone else out there.
Several EU nations, who're totally not at war with Russia, impounded the Russian sovereign funds held in European banks and have been using the interest to fund Ukraine. Essentially stealing from Russia to fund Ukraine.
We didn't start the fire.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 13, 2025 02:12 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: runner at March 13, 2025 02:13 PM (g47mK)
TBH they are getting there. I saw a clip from the women's pole vaulting competition from the last Olympics and basically they wear skin tight underwear and that's it.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 13, 2025 02:13 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: MAC V SOG at March 13, 2025 02:08 PM (P4Pk9)
Well, the fed judges better figure it out soon that America is not a judiciacracy.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 13, 2025 02:13 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: TallDave
That is hilarious. European "combined forces" would have been pushed back west of the Rhine within three weeks.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 13, 2025 02:06 PM (ZPDaM)
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The YouTube channel "The Military Show" is hilariously all-in on how Europe is united and going to kick Russia's ass. The narrator cites population, wealth, how many countries have at least paid lip service to this, etc. No mention of military prowess or fighting spirit.
I actually hope they try. I could use a good laugh.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 13, 2025 02:13 PM (YqDXo)
114 Trump is a land guy. He saw Greenland and knew its value -- just like he would a prime real estate deal.
Barbara Corcoran explains it better than I ever could. Watch just 50 seconds (0:40 - 1:30) and you'll get it:
https://is.gd/8z728n
Posted by: ... at March 13, 2025 11:30 AM (TUfzJ)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at March 13, 2025 02:13 PM (4TmYT)
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 13, 2025 02:13 PM (PMtkd)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 13, 2025 02:13 PM (LkLld)
Posted by: whig at March 13, 2025 02:09 PM (ctrM5)
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Samuel Johnson, I believe.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at March 13, 2025 02:14 PM (6K6Eu)
Somewhere there's a happy medium between Andy Taylor and the paramilitary reaction force.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 13, 2025 02:14 PM (w6EFb)
Walmart 7.
Posted by: eleven
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The classic rejoinder here is that "she does butt stuff. "
Posted by: whig at March 13, 2025 02:14 PM (ctrM5)
TBH they are getting there. I saw a clip from the women's pole vaulting competition from the last Olympics and basically they wear skin tight underwear and that's it.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 13, 2025 02:13 PM (t0Rmr)
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The dancing Aussie chick runner drew a lot of eyeballs too.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at March 13, 2025 02:14 PM (tT6L1)
https://tinyurl.com/25zue9e6
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 13, 2025 02:14 PM (paSBy)
Posted by: publius
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You mean sic Aunt Bea on miscreants?
Posted by: whig at March 13, 2025 02:15 PM (ctrM5)
MSNBC host Andrew Ross Sorkin claimed Thursday on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” that travel to the United States was dropping because foreigners were saying they did not “like” the Trump administration’s policies.
Posted by: I I'm gumby damn it! at March 13, 2025 02:10 PM (E45hQ)
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And they won't sign our yearbook either!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 13, 2025 02:15 PM (YqDXo)
https://tinyurl.com/2b98mtmx
Posted by: Cheri at March 13, 2025 02:15 PM (oiNtH)
Does the horde have an opinion on when or if the Supremes will ever tell the fed judges to STFU?
Posted by: MAC V SOG
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There's a theory that Amy Coney Barrett and John Roberts have a chess game going that will lead to that very decision.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 13, 2025 02:16 PM (lCaJd)
LOL
Posted by: garrett at March 13, 2025 01:40 PM (npXNI)
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marc josepi
@markjos05095724
Did you know that Michelle Obama rigged the government to send her a check for $122,000 a month
All under the dark of night? Take a look… Not making this up… Thank you DOGE.
https://is.gd/1TsmEP
Posted by: ShainS -- TrumpLand Map: Better Coverage than 5G ... Can you hear us now? at March 13, 2025 02:16 PM (Qof+9)
https://tinyurl.com/25zue9e6
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 13, 2025 02:14 PM (paSBy)
It is a great embarrassment for our country that the party full of so many imbeciles was ascendant for so long.
Posted by: Just Lily at March 13, 2025 02:17 PM (vF1Ev)
TBH they are getting there. I saw a clip from the women's pole vaulting competition from the last Olympics and basically they wear skin tight underwear and that's it.
Posted by: 18-1
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Traditionalists and today's pron OF audiences should love it. The Greeks started teh games way back when that way. Course it was all greased dudes wrestling like in 300!
Source, stuff I learned in movies.
Posted by: whig at March 13, 2025 02:17 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: whig at March 13, 2025 02:10 PM (ctrM5)
Pairs ice skating will be interesting.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 13, 2025 02:17 PM (W/lyH)
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Rightly so. The buggers have a habit of swallowing golf balls for use as gizzard stones.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at March 13, 2025 02:17 PM (6K6Eu)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Same plot in Happy Gilmore as Tincup. Win the girl, beat the asshole, and take the trophy.
Posted by: whig at March 13, 2025 02:04 PM (ctrM5)
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The Bob Barker cameo was funny.
Posted by: WisRich at March 13, 2025 02:17 PM (G0vdT)
https://tinyurl.com/25zue9e6
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 13, 2025 02:14 PM (paSBy)
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Ghetto scholarship. Government employees will be out on the street because of a shutdown instead of being out on the street because they were laid off.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 13, 2025 02:18 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 13, 2025 02:08 PM (lCaJd)
We dropped out of a couple of their worst divisions - Human Rights and maybe one of their courts. We have a few more things we already ignore. First demand is to put it outside the US.
Certainly a statement by our Ambassador that it is too unfair to be hogging the honor of hosting the UN and asking for offers to host it would be funny. We can contribute money for building it, like Canada pays for its defense.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 13, 2025 02:18 PM (n7h9X)
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Some of the track and field girls from less competitive countries are fairly astounding. There was a lass from Ireland. Lord what a work of art she was....
Posted by: I like irish girls. A lot. at March 13, 2025 02:18 PM (PdYsM)
Posted by: 18-1
Don't want your junk to knock the bar down. Nothing but whitey tightness here on out.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 13, 2025 02:18 PM (aFSR2)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 13, 2025 02:18 PM (2Km7O)
I'm not even remotely smart enough to write about that but I think I will try.
Question for you: if you were dying and you knew it would you talk about it with the people who love you?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at March 13, 2025 02:18 PM (SXxzC)
Posted by: President Zelensky, Dirt Bag at March 13, 2025 02:18 PM (Ic155)
Posted by: Just Lily at March 13, 2025 02:17 PM (vF1Ev)
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Aggressively stupid was up against the spineless GOPe. Naturally they were ascendant.
Oh, and LOL!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at March 13, 2025 02:19 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 13, 2025 02:19 PM (lCaJd)
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Spartan women also trained in athletics. Nude.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at March 13, 2025 02:19 PM (6K6Eu)
Posted by: Just Lily at March 13, 2025 02:17 PM (vF1Ev)
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This is absolute truth.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 13, 2025 02:19 PM (PMtkd)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 13, 2025 02:00 PM (w6EFb)
Mediocre sports talent but big tits?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 13, 2025 02:19 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: whig at March 13, 2025 02:17 PM (ctrM5)
_________________
Still popular in SF.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 13, 2025 02:20 PM (YqDXo)
Dumb bitch.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 13, 2025 02:20 PM (PMtkd)
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Related: I used to get along great with my grandparents, but ever since they passed away they've been voting democrat
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger: Ready to Free Ukrainian Wagshambas From Zelensky Tyranny at March 13, 2025 02:20 PM (HYKHz)
We love Presdent Obama... Do You ???
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at March 13, 2025 02:20 PM (LHY/5)
Posted by: MAC V SOG
Most likely if and when those judges try to actually move to temporary or permanent injunctions or to enforce their TROs (Temporary Restraining Order). Injunctions or even orders to enforce a judge's order create appealable actions to Court of Appeals or even Scotus. Right now, consider these Resistance judges no less than protesters wearing black gowns with gavels with about the same impact.
(TROs are not normally considered appealable.)
Posted by: whig at March 13, 2025 02:21 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: haffhowershower at March 13, 2025 02:21 PM (NMT5x)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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Ah, yes, like Riceroni. The San Francisco Treat!
Posted by: whig at March 13, 2025 02:22 PM (ctrM5)
"Thanks to Trump, and to no one's surprise, the Oval Office ambush of Zelensky, and the pause in military assistance to Ukraine for just a few days gave the Russians an edge to weaken Ukraine's position even further."
This is from a commenter to the WSJ headline that Putin is rejecting the deal - quite diff from the spin on this post.
But the news media will continue to spin every detail, every headline right on up through the midterm and beyond.
Posted by: geewhiz at March 13, 2025 02:22 PM (65K9+)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at March 13, 2025 02:22 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 13, 2025 02:19 PM (ExV1e)
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Like we care about sports talent.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 13, 2025 02:22 PM (YqDXo)
Speaking of female Olympic pole vaulters, we have a real dingbat here:
https://tinyurl.com/25vf89ox
The increasing global humidity due to global warming is messing up her sticky grip stuff.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 13, 2025 02:22 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 13, 2025 02:18 PM (aFSR2)
There was a guy ... Frenchman I believe, that got knocked out of the medal round because his package got caught on the bar.
Became quite famous with a certain set of folks ...
Posted by: browndog knows that area well at March 13, 2025 02:22 PM (TTAGa)
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I would talk with my loved ones and tell them how grateful I was to know them in this world. As for dying, meh, it happens.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 13, 2025 02:23 PM (pLaQB)
Posted by: Reforger at March 13, 2025 02:23 PM (xcIvR)
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger: Ready to Free Ukrainian Wagshambas From Zelensky Tyranny at March 13, 2025 02:20 PM (HYKHz)
A fate to which you may succumb.
Tis a possibility for us all.
Posted by: Just Lily at March 13, 2025 02:23 PM (vF1Ev)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * scio te ipsum at March 13, 2025 02:08 PM
Another Glenn Beck prediction comes true.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at March 13, 2025 02:24 PM (g8Ew8)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 13, 2025 02:24 PM (2Km7O)
(TROs are not normally considered appealable.)
Posted by: whig at March 13, 2025 02:21 PM (ctrM5)
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I'm trying to figure out what the order actually was.
If I'm reading the news articles correctly (very probably I'm not), it seems like something he just said at the end of a hearing.
It's not listed as one of his standing orders on the Judiciary's website.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 13, 2025 02:24 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * scio te ipsum at March 13, 2025 02:08 PM
Another Glenn Beck prediction comes true.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at March 13, 2025 02:24 PM (g8Ew
There was another?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 13, 2025 02:24 PM (i24o9)
Became quite famous with a certain set of folks ...
Posted by: browndog knows that area well at March 13, 2025 02:22 PM (TTAGa)
Oh my!
Posted by: Lindsey Graham, Closeted Homosexual at March 13, 2025 02:24 PM (Ic155)
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 13, 2025 02:25 PM (fwyhL)
Posted by: Just Lily at March 13, 2025 02:17 PM (vF1Ev)
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This is absolute truth.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 13, 2025 02:19 PM (PMtkd)
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Hey what are we? Chopped liver?
Posted by: Ms. Lindsey and Zombie McCain at March 13, 2025 02:25 PM (bVLn/)
I think I would. I have close family members that don't tell me when they have fairly serious medical conditions. I may or may not even find out about them, and if I do, it's either 2nd hand or well after the fact.
I get that that type of stuff is personal, and maybe they don't want to be treated differently if someone knew they were seriously ill, but still...
I think by telling people I was dying, I could give them a chance at closure and also to finish up any business.
Posted by: haffhowershower at March 13, 2025 02:26 PM (NMT5x)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at March 13, 2025 02:26 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Diogenes
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Nipply weather and turtles.
Amusing slo mo closeups of the 'action'. To fit with today's NIL rights, you can have the Only Fans links to the performers right on the performance video.
Posted by: whig at March 13, 2025 02:26 PM (ctrM5)
https://tinyurl.com/25vf89ox
The increasing global humidity due to global warming is messing up her sticky grip stuff.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 13, 2025 02:22 PM (w6EFb)
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Well, she IS from New Zealand, which is dingbat HQ as far as I can tell.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 13, 2025 02:27 PM (YqDXo)
Much like their actual golf scores
Paige > Grace
Posted by: 18-1 at March 13, 2025 01:56 PM
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Yeah, Grace has a smokin' bod but a Howdy Doody face. Paige is the whole package.
Posted by: Bigsmith at March 13, 2025 02:28 PM (1Au9i)
If I'm reading the news articles correctly (very probably I'm not), it seems like something he just said at the end of a hearing.
It's not listed as one of his standing orders on the Judiciary's website.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
I usually go back and find them after someone like Shipwrecked Crew etc. link the documents of the orders. Takes a day or two and the resultant wait usually lowers the blood pressure when reading garbage orders.
Posted by: whig at March 13, 2025 02:28 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Northernlurker
Yes. But deciding the right time and manner would be crucial I think. That is quite an undertaking for you - good luck!!
Posted by: Cheri at March 13, 2025 02:29 PM (oiNtH)
Gee, didn't a democrat president in the 90's 'neglect' the same action concerning Iraqi oil sales to Europe, to?
Posted by: Danimal28 at March 13, 2025 02:29 PM (1E4GV)
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My brother is dying and we've had several conversations about it. He wanted me to be sure the rest of the family understands that he's at peace and is ready to go.
That seems a very worthwhile thing to do.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 13, 2025 02:30 PM (paSBy)
In short put on the Democracy show and allow the people to choose their fate. I think Russia would be satisfied with the results, because most of the land they took holds Russian sympathizers and loyalists.
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You can't do that! The occupied area is filled with Russian sympathizers and loyalists, of course they're going to vote to secede!
- Democracy 'Experts'
Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 13, 2025 01:53 PM (wq0D5)
If I remember correctly, those Russians and Russian sympathizers are in Ukraine largely because the Soviets starved out the Ukes in the Holodomor and settled in the now vacant lands. That's also one reason why the Ukes embraced the Nazis (plus, the Ukes were even more virulent anti-semites than the Russians).
Which doesn't justify either side's actions. You can keep going back, listing the various Uke/Russian conflicts, going back for centuries. Basically, the only rational course of action for the rest of the world to wall the place off, supply both sides with weapons and let nature take it's course
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 13, 2025 02:30 PM (y9nCu)
Posted by: TallDave
That is hilarious. European "combined forces" would have been pushed back west of the Rhine within three weeks.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 13, 2025 02:06 PM (ZPDaM)
Europe can't even form a skirmish line in the area. Even the RUS and UKR had pretty much no troops north of Kharkov due to lack of troops. After UKR attacked a few times and RUS recruited more troops they formed a reserve there that reacted to the invasion of Kursk but those troops were not deployed on the front. North of Sumy, still neither side has much force there.
An force of 15000, a division, has a frontage of 15-25 miles. Drop that on the Dniepr and Russia could eventually just drive around them.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 13, 2025 02:30 PM (n7h9X)
Posted by: blake
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Less "de feet" and more "de junk".
Posted by: whig at March 13, 2025 02:30 PM (ctrM5)
Which doesn't justify either side's actions. You can keep going back, listing the various Uke/Russian conflicts, going back for centuries. Basically, the only rational course of action for the rest of the world to wall the place off, supply both sides with weapons and let nature take it's course
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 13, 2025 02:30 PM (y9nCu)
Oh nonsense. Ukraine stayed loyal and a part of the USSR during WWII and the Cold War without a peep.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 13, 2025 02:31 PM (n7h9X)
I'm not even remotely smart enough to write about that but I think I will try.
Question for you: if you were dying and you knew it would you talk about it with the people who love you?
Posted by: Northernlurker
Yes.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 13, 2025 02:32 PM (WZaJc)
Posted by: whig at March 13, 2025 02:30 PM (ctrM5)
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heh.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at March 13, 2025 02:32 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Oldcat
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That's not fair. I am sure that the Euro armies are fully armed with double sided paddles saying Lies or False on the two sides. The French would also employ their dreaded "fart in your general direction" weapon of mass disgust.
Posted by: whig at March 13, 2025 02:32 PM (ctrM5)
Issued by the Heads of State and Government participating in the meeting of the North Atlantic Council in Brussels 14 June 2021, Last updated: 01 Jul. 2022
Reading all suggested, but especially 69. which begins: "We reiterate the decision made at the 2008 Bucharest Summit that Ukraine will become a member of the Alliance with the Membership Action Plan (MAP) as an integral part of the process; we reaffirm all elements of that decision, as well as subsequent decisions, including that each partner will be judged on its own merits. We stand firm in our support for Ukraine’s right to decide its own future and foreign policy course free from outside interference. The Annual National Programmes under the NATO-Ukraine Commission (NUC) remain the mechanism by which Ukraine takes forward the reforms pertaining to its aspiration for NATO membership. Ukraine should make full use of all instruments available under the NUC to reach its objective of implementing NATO principles and standards. The success of wide-ranging, sustainable, and irreversible reforms, including combating corruption, promoting an inclusive political process,..." (yada yada).
Posted by: L - No nick, another fine day at March 13, 2025 02:32 PM (NFX2v)
Posted by: ace at March 13, 2025 01:50 PM (KRtlO)
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Never seen that. Is it a good movie?
it's a great movie.
Posted by: ace at March 13, 2025 02:33 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: blake
More of the pole hole getting smashed.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 13, 2025 02:34 PM (WZaJc)
Gee, didn't a democrat president in the 90's 'neglect' the same action concerning Iraqi oil sales to Europe, to?
Posted by: Danimal28 at March 13, 2025 02:29 PM (1E4GV)
The sanctions also make it legal for Russia to sail a tanker to India, paint "not Russian, srsly" and sell it to the US and the EU. and they do.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 13, 2025 02:34 PM (n7h9X)
Posted by: Oldcat at March 13, 2025 02:30 PM (n7h9X)
There's precedent for that.
Posted by: mrp at March 13, 2025 02:39 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley
I'd certainly let her use my putter anytime!!!
Posted by: Zombie Arnold Palmer at March 13, 2025 02:44 PM (vcOmj)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 13, 2025 01:28 PM (Vqx30)
Poland still has a real military
also if Russian can use Korean troops so can we
our Koreans will wipe the floor with theirs
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Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 13, 2025 01:40 PM (ExV1e)
same reason Ukraine wouldn't agree to a ceasefire till now
Trump
Posted by: TallDave at March 13, 2025 02:49 PM (98TtQ)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 13, 2025 02:06 PM (ZPDaM)
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ROTFLMAO do you even know what combined arms means?
neither Russia nor Ukraine has the ability to integrate their forces to their tactical advantage, NATO countries would chew up these bands of drone-dodging conscripts and spit them out at minimal risk
heck, Poland by itself could thunder run through Moscow in a week if there weren't thousands of nukes in play
Posted by: TallDave at March 13, 2025 02:56 PM (98TtQ)
Posted by: Raspail at March 13, 2025 03:12 PM (Uj6nG)
Which doesn't justify either side's actions. You can keep going back, listing the various Uke/Russian conflicts, going back for centuries. Basically, the only rational course of action for the rest of the world to wall the place off, supply both sides with weapons and let nature take it's course
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 13, 2025 02:30 PM (y9nCu)
Oh nonsense. Ukraine stayed loyal and a part of the USSR during WWII and the Cold War without a peep.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 13, 2025 02:31 PM (n7h9X)
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Poland also got a big chunk of Germany, partly because the Soviet Union was giving a big chunk of eastern Poland to (among others)... Ukraine
Posted by: TallDave at March 13, 2025 03:14 PM (98TtQ)
Posted by: Raspail at March 13, 2025 03:14 PM (Uj6nG)
Posted by: Raspail at March 13, 2025 03:12 PM (Uj6nG)
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fortunately, no one wants Poland to invade Moscow
but even since the Marines clobbered the Wagner Group in Syria, Vlad is well aware of the tactical deficiencies of Russian troops facing modern Western militaries
it's unlikely that EU troops actually get sent there, Trump just needs to put that stick on the table so Vlad has another compelling reason to accept a peace deal
Posted by: TallDave at March 13, 2025 03:18 PM (98TtQ)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at March 13, 2025 03:18 PM (247IU)
Posted by: El Mariachi at March 13, 2025 03:22 PM (nLFEI)
Posted by: Alec Rawls at March 13, 2025 03:24 PM (YwWCT)
Wars happen, and boundaries change. Doesn't matter why it started. Them's the rules.
No way they can accept Ukraine joining NATO. Huge shared border. That would be a tinderbox for WW-III.
My $0.02
Posted by: connertown at March 13, 2025 03:37 PM (Xo5AT)
May not need a ceasefire, but wants one. Russia is certainly winning, but has really already won all it wants (assuming Trump agrees Ukraine will not be admitted to NATO; Russia has occupied eastern Ukraine and has no territorial aspirations beyond that).
Posted by: One-Eyed Cat Peepin' in the Seafood Store at March 13, 2025 03:55 PM (sc558)
Posted by: Denny Crane! at March 13, 2025 04:09 PM (40IR8)
Putin was after parts of Ukraine before the Ukraine in NATO concept seemed serious. He is after ethnic Russians. Ethnic Russians are headed for minority status in Russia, and Putin is influenced by traditional Russian philosophers/scholars that write about Russian exceptionalism. He is afraid of losing what it means to be "Russian." This is not a land grab. It is a "person" grab. Putin is not trying to rebuild the Soviet empire. He wants to collect all the ethnic Russians and stem the inevitable tide swamping them demographically in Russia.
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