THE MORNING RANT: A Friday Laugh at European Leaders’ Proclaimed Self Reliance

Following the dust-up when President Trump and Vice President Vance slapped down Volodymyr Zelenskyy for coming into the White House to publicly renege on the agreement that was being formalized, and then demanding even more from the US, European leaders comically asserted that they would stand together and go it alone without the United States.

“The Latest: Britain’s Starmer says Europe must take responsibility for defending itself” [AP – 3/02/2025]

British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said Europe must take responsibility for defending itself as world leaders met in London to discuss working together to stop Russia’s war in Ukraine. Britain hosted the summit Sunday to shore up support for Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy after an astonishing Oval Office meltdown with President Donald Trump that left many uncertain where the once staunch allies stood.

The prospect of not having to subsidize and provide virtually all the defense for our parasitic “allies” caused Americans to enthusiastically embrace Europe’s response. It was one of those “Your terms are acceptable moments.” Of course, we all know that Europe’s ability to provide for its own defense is as laughable as a little boy asserting his independence by running away from home with his belongings tied up in a bindle.

The sad truth, in my opinion, is that Europeans could not take up arms to defend themselves if they had to, nor would they.

After spending the past few days digging into the state of military readiness in most of Europe I’ve come to the conclusion that Western Europe could be, with minimal difficulty, conquered by the National Guard of any one American state
— Enguerrand VII de Coucy (@ingelramdecoucy) March 2, 2025

It's Friday, so I thought we might out to have a little fun coming up with funny analogs to Europe asserting its self-reliance. Here are three I’ve thought of. I welcome your additional suggestions.

1) Arthur (Dudley Moore) getting cut off from his allowance and coming up with a solution – he’d get a job. At the 1:00 minute mark of this video he brashly (and drunkenly) proclaims, “I’ll get a job! That’s what I’ll do. I’ll get a job. I’ll work! This is going to be great.”

2) David Hogg announcing he was going to start his own pillow company to compete with My Pillow.

“David Hogg Launching Pillow Company to Put ‘My Pillow’ Out of Business” [NBC – 02/04/2021]

3) ANTIFA declaring its Seattle “CHAZ” encampment as being a sovereign country, and then launching its agriculture program by laying down some cardboard, spreading some dirt on it, and then throwing some vegetable seeds on it.

“In Seattle’s CHAZ, a community garden takes root” [Cascade PBS – 6/15/2020]

On a more serious note, Europeans cannot defend themselves because they have established a pervasive culture of self-loathing. As Rod Dreher notes, ”How is an establishment that teaches Britons to hate their own land going to convince them to sacrifice for Ukrainian nationalism?”

In 2024, a Cambridge museum warned visitors that English landscape paintings could evoke feelings of "dark nationalism." How is an establishment that teaches Britons to hate their own land going to convince them to sacrifice for Ukrainian nationalism?https://t.co/goVGuXYcVk
— Rod Dreher (@roddreher) March 3, 2025

John Hayward (Doctor Zero) offers up an interesting angle to that issue, pointing out that no respectable European takes pride in his own country, so he embraces the flag and nationalism outside his country’s borders. Hayward wrote, ”There is an element among European center-left support for Ukraine that reeks of displaced nationalism. They know their own countries are gone, so they are looking for a flag to wave and a slogan to chant, like sports fans seeking spiritual fulfillment from their fandom.”

There is an element among European center-Left support for Ukraine that reeks of displaced nationalism. They know their own countries are gone, so they're looking for a flag to wave and a slogan to chant, like sports fans seeking spiritual fulfillment from their fandom. https://t.co/h8cHuNrYHX
— Doctor_Zero (@Doctor_Zer0) March 3, 2025

For those whose “displaced nationalism” leads them to publicly – and sanctimoniously - pledge allegiance to Ukraine, while not actually offering themselves up to fight and die for the country to which they’ve transferred their patriotic allegiance, Walter Kirn offered up this biting comment, “I have searched, but I have yet to find a scripture or great work of literature in which cheering and funding war from a safe distance is held out as a virtue.”

I have searched, but I have yet to find a scripture or great work of literature in which cheering and funding war from a safe distance is held out as a virtue

We seem to have invented a brand new one
— Walter Kirn (@walterkirn) March 1, 2025

I’d wish “Godspeed” to Europe as they try to forge ahead, independent of the United States, but Europe has rejected God. Good luck, I guess.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

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Posted by: Formerly Virginian at March 07, 2025 11:00 AM (aPBRN)

2 They should be mocked. They are feckless and evil.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at March 07, 2025 11:01 AM (aPBRN)

3 Woohoo!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at March 07, 2025 11:02 AM (W/lyH)

4 The Jacuzzi.com cutie is back! Hooray!

Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 11:02 AM (77rzZ)

5 The EU promises to fight to the last Ukrainian.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Sunday is Vic's Birthday at March 07, 2025 11:02 AM (jc0TO)

6 The UK government promoted Ramadan and ignored Ash Wednesday. Enjoy sharia law, you wankers.

Posted by: ScaryMary at March 07, 2025 11:03 AM (i/l90)

7 Odds the US, possibly in a joint venture with OMG Russia Russia Russia, conducts a mission within 5 years to take or destroy all of the European Caliphate's remaining nuclear weapons?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 07, 2025 11:03 AM (Vqx30)

8 Hey, CHAZ did have spokestits.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at March 07, 2025 11:04 AM (/x6eu)

9 Aren't we at the point where Germany could field a BCT, if the US provided transport and air cover?

Posted by: Grump928(C) Sunday is Vic's Birthday at March 07, 2025 11:05 AM (jc0TO)

10 Luckily for Europe, they are very unlikely to face any external military threats before their countries all internally collapse, so the whole "European army" thing won't matter in the long run anyways.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 07, 2025 11:05 AM (uCjyK)

11 Laugh all you want at Hogg's failed pillow company but it led to him getting a cushy DNC job. Unless you have the AWL guilt being a Dem seems so comfortable. However much of a screw up you are, its not your fault, the patriarchy or systemic racism or some other BS is to blame.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 07, 2025 11:05 AM (34pOu)

12 After spending the past few days digging into the state of military readiness in most of Europe I've come to the conclusion that Western Europe could be, with minimal difficulty, conquered by the National Guard of any one American state

- Enguerrand VII de Coucy (@ingelramdecoucy) March 2, 2025

The Horde could probably take France.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 07, 2025 11:06 AM (Vqx30)

13
GOod morning, ol.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 07, 2025 11:06 AM (lCaJd)

14 At this point, Western Europe could be conquered by some angry residents of "The Villages."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 07, 2025 11:06 AM (Q4IgG)

15 Cheering someone else's war and encouraging their sacrifice "AT ALL COSTS" while you sit safely at home is of a kind with the rest of the evil Western "elites" do.

It's the same with abortion, immigration invasion, inflation, etc...

At every turn, they ensure someone else pays the price for their virtue signaling.

Just like the polls from the other day: Europeans STRONGLY believe Ukraine should be supported.... just as long as they aren't the ones paying for it.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at March 07, 2025 11:06 AM (aPBRN)

16 Europeans cannot defend themselves because they have established a pervasive culture of self-loathing.
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Were it so complex.

Nope. "Europeans" are dying out. Whatever is left of fighting age has no stake in "Europe". And the leaders are on the take, compromised or all three.

Posted by: ... at March 07, 2025 11:06 AM (HfWSf)

17 At this point, Western Europe could be conquered by the Village People.

Posted by: ScaryMary at March 07, 2025 11:06 AM (i/l90)

18 Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at March 07, 2025 11:07 AM (L/fGl)

19 Enlist a bunch of soccer hooligans....do they still exist?

Posted by: BignJames at March 07, 2025 11:07 AM (Yj6Os)

20 I am not worried it will happen, Europeans are not all of a sudden work on self reliance

Posted by: Skip i at March 07, 2025 11:07 AM (fwDg9)

21 "How is an establishment that teaches Britons to hate their own land going to convince them to sacrifice for Ukrainian nationalism?”

"The idiot who praises, with enthusiastic tone,
All centuries but this, and every country but his own."

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 07, 2025 11:07 AM (Wnv9h)

22 Hogg's ghey assjack pillows?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle for festive little hats at March 07, 2025 11:07 AM (r3q5i)

23 Has the Democrat hierarchy had enough of David Hogg as Vice Chair of the DNC yet? Even as shell-shocked as they all are right now, I would think that Hogg's natural uselessness should be apparent.

Posted by: Paco at March 07, 2025 11:07 AM (mADJX)

24 What I remember from Arthur:
"Peanuts!!"
- Arthur's grandmother

Posted by: Lizzy at March 07, 2025 11:08 AM (Cki93)

25 After spending the past few days digging into the state of military readiness in most of Europe I’ve come to the conclusion that Western Europe could be, with minimal difficulty, conquered by the National Guard of any one American state

Boy scout troop.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 07, 2025 11:08 AM (A7Jfs)

26 Just like the polls from the other day: Europeans STRONGLY believe Ukraine should be supported.... just as long as they aren't the ones paying for it.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at March 07, 2025 11:06 AM (aPBRN)

Yes, they strongly believe that we should pay for and fund the war indefinitely. Their leaders are skimming from the top, their companies are excited for the rebuilding contracts, and their citizens are propaganda addled dimwits.

Not all of them, but enough.

Oh, and they're all rapidly transitioning to Muslim countries.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 07, 2025 11:08 AM (uCjyK)

27 I like the idea of the Texas National Guard conquering Europe.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 07, 2025 11:08 AM (Tx67K)

28 >>>On a more serious note, Europeans cannot defend themselves because they have established a pervasive culture of self-loathing.

Another problem: beefing up their defense budgets would require cuts to the welfare state they're so proud of. They've been able to focus on the butter, only because America has all the guns.

Posted by: Dr. T at March 07, 2025 11:08 AM (EynyL)

29 The UK government promoted Ramadan and ignored Ash Wednesday. Enjoy sharia law, you wankers.
Posted by: ScaryMary at March 07, 2025

***
The land of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Winston Churchill, John Dickson Carr (by adoption), and the army fellow who told the Indians in effect, "You can burn your widows, but we have our own custom -- of hanging murderers" . . . is gone.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 07, 2025 11:08 AM (J2vNu)

30 Europe makes me think of the little boy running away from home with all his worldly belongings in a pillow case

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at March 07, 2025 11:09 AM (kTd/k)

31 Hogg's ghey assjack pillows?
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle for festive little hats at March 07, 2025 11:07 AM

Bite MyPillow.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 07, 2025 11:09 AM (Wnv9h)

32 Enlist a bunch of soccer hooligans....do they still exist?
Posted by: BignJames

Obviously not since no one is pushing back on the goatfuckers.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 07, 2025 11:09 AM (A7Jfs)

33 The Horde could probably take France.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

Dibs on Juliette Binoche.

Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 11:09 AM (77rzZ)

34 Nope. "Europeans" are dying out. Whatever is left of fighting age has no stake in "Europe". And the leaders are on the take, compromised or all three.
Posted by: ... at March 07, 2025 11:06 AM (HfWSf)

I think a German army would have a hard time getting the Mohammeds to sign up to defend Ukraine.

And an even harder time getting the remaining Hans's to sign up to defend Ukraine.

But what do I know?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 07, 2025 11:09 AM (uCjyK)

35 Oh, so you "stand with Ukraine," what have you done?

I changed my profile pic to the Ukraine flag. That way everyone can see I'm a good person.

You're not going over there to fight?

Oh, lord no! I want to be SEEN as a good person, not BE a good person.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 07, 2025 11:10 AM (Fsn05)

36 I have a feeling that if the United States withdrew all of our military personnel and cut off all financial aid to Europe they would collapse.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 07, 2025 11:10 AM (e5NfL)

37 The x factor in Europe's ability to fight -- when you take all those Muslins EBT cards away, they'll get a bit feisty.

Posted by: brak at March 07, 2025 11:10 AM (jGJov)

38 >>> 28
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Another problem: beefing up their defense budgets would require cuts to the welfare state they're so proud of. They've been able to focus on the butter, only because America has all the guns.
Posted by: Dr. T at March 07, 2025 11:08 AM (EynyL)

Crazy talk!!!

Posted by: EU money printer go brrrrrrr at March 07, 2025 11:10 AM (Vqx30)

39 The sad truth, in my opinion, is that Europeans could not take up arms to defend themselves if they had to, nor would they.

It is hilarious to watch. Poland and Finland are willing to defend themselves - the rest of Europe, not so much.

Having the German foreign minister going on TV to tell Germans to prepare for war with Russia is so surreal.

And since the EU economies are completely stagnant, thanks to overregulation and the pursuit of "green energy", precisely which social programs are they going to cut to pay for all this new defense spending?

How many weeks of vacation is the average German going to be willing to give up to prepare Germany for war with Russia?

Surreal.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 07, 2025 11:10 AM (xTIDn)

40 "You can burn your widows, but we have our own custom -- of hanging murderers" . . . is gone.
_____

"You can burn your widows, but we have our own custom --but forget all that, do you mind burning our widows too?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 07, 2025 11:10 AM (Dv3i1)

41 Odds the US, possibly in a joint venture with OMG Russia Russia Russia, conducts a mission within 5 years to take or destroy all of the European Caliphate's remaining nuclear weapons?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket

Greater than a 90% certainty. We don't want a caliphate to be nuclear armed, Russia sure as hell doesn't, and Israel will probably beat both of us to the bombing and reduction of capability.

Posted by: BifBewalski at March 07, 2025 11:10 AM (MsrgL)

42 Oh, and they're all rapidly transitioning to Muslim countries.

Mooslum troons.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle for festive little hats at March 07, 2025 11:10 AM (r3q5i)

43 Enlist a bunch of soccer hooligans....do they still exist?
Posted by: BignJames

On the dole and diabetes and / or in gaeol as they spell it over there.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 07, 2025 11:11 AM (mlg/3)

44 Western Europe will devolve into an open-air antiquities museum, if the Muslims will allow it.

Posted by: mr tmz at March 07, 2025 11:11 AM (rJ48h)

45 11 Laugh all you want at Hogg's failed pillow company but it led to him getting a cushy DNC job. Unless you have the AWL guilt being a Dem seems so comfortable. However much of a screw up you are, its not your fault, the patriarchy or systemic racism or some other BS is to blame.
Posted by: PaleRider
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Hogg is now a metaphorical pillow smothering the DNC. His latest escapade was suggesting that the DNC spend millions of bucks to create a Dem social network and he would run it for them. He is a particularly loathsome grifter that is so unashamed of his grifting that he says the unspoken part out loud.

Posted by: whig at March 07, 2025 11:11 AM (ctrM5)

46 On a more serious note, Europeans cannot defend themselves because they have established a pervasive culture of self-loathing. As Rod Dreher notes, ”How is an establishment that teaches Britons to hate their own land going to convince them to sacrifice for Ukrainian nationalism?”

And why should they? They should be pushing the Muslims out of Europe instead or soon they will lie bleeding out in their own streets.

Posted by: long night...lifted at March 07, 2025 11:11 AM (2NXcZ)

47 Germany pledged to defend Ukraine. How do German troops get to Ukraine? Through - wait for - it - Poland.

So German soldiers marching through Poland on their way to fight Russians.

I think I’ve seen this movie before.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 07, 2025 11:11 AM (DNoz0)

48 >>How is an establishment that teaches Britons to hate their own land going to convince them to sacrifice for Ukrainian nationalism?

That's a dumb question.
It's about teaching them to hate themselves, and the only way to atone for that is to use all that you have to take care and uplift 'the other.'

After they've learned that, the leadership need only define the 'other' du jour.

Last week it was Floyd, yesterday it was the illegal immigrant, today it's the Ukrainian. NPC upgrades all.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 07, 2025 11:11 AM (Cki93)

49 45 Hogg is now a metaphorical pillow smothering the DNC. His latest escapade was suggesting that the DNC spend millions of bucks to create a Dem social network and he would run it for them. He is a particularly loathsome grifter that is so unashamed of his grifting that he says the unspoken part out loud.
Posted by: whig at March 07, 2025 11:11 AM (ctrM5)

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He is the left's version of the grifters who sunk the Tea Party.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, leading the proletariat with Eisenstein at March 07, 2025 11:12 AM (GBKbO)

50 44 Western Europe will devolve into an open-air antiquities museum, if the Muslims will allow it.
Posted by: mr tmz at March 07, 2025 11:11 AM (rJ48h)

They won't. Islam must be expelled.

Posted by: long night...lifted at March 07, 2025 11:12 AM (2NXcZ)

51 We dodged a bullet, staying out of WWI as long as we did. We shouldn't have gone in at all. But we have lost too many of our warriors in these smaller localized wars.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 07, 2025 11:12 AM (7PR43)

52 What I remember from Arthur:
"Peanuts!!"
- Arthur's grandmother
Posted by: Lizzy at March 07, 2025 11:08 AM

"If I begin to die, please take this off my head. This is not the way I wish to be remembered."

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 07, 2025 11:12 AM (Wnv9h)

53 And since the EU economies are completely stagnant, thanks to overregulation and the pursuit of "green energy", precisely which social programs are they going to cut to pay for all this new defense spending?

How many weeks of vacation is the average German going to be willing to give up to prepare Germany for war with Russia?

Surreal.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 07, 2025 11:10 AM (xTIDn)

And imagine them trying to have a real wartime economy.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at March 07, 2025 11:12 AM (eYoxG)

54 What's Peter Dinklage doing in a photo with Eurotrash heads of state?

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 07, 2025 11:12 AM (iFTx/)

55 The UK government promoted Ramadan and ignored Ash Wednesday. Enjoy sharia law, you wankers.
Posted by: ScaryMary at March 07, 2025

Oh, they already are. Or rather, not enjoying it. Just check out all the stories of restaurants switching to serve halal or people getting (mostly) verbally abused for walking their dog.

Posted by: Dr. T at March 07, 2025 11:12 AM (EynyL)

56 Hogg is now a metaphorical pillow smothering the DNC. His latest escapade was suggesting that the DNC spend millions of bucks to create a Dem social network and he would run it for them. He is a particularly loathsome grifter that is so unashamed of his grifting that he says the unspoken part out loud.
Posted by: whig at March 07, 2025 11:11 AM (ctrM5)

Interestingly, Hogg's dad worked for the FBI. I'm sure that's not related to anything.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 07, 2025 11:12 AM (uCjyK)

57 >>> 34
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I think a German army would have a hard time getting the Mohammeds to sign up to defend Ukraine.

And an even harder time getting the remaining Hans's to sign up to defend Ukraine.

But what do I know?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 07, 2025 11:09 AM (uCjyK)

I expect they will start drafting their native population, specifically those ones who are "anti-diversity", as cannon fodder. What happens next could be messy.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 07, 2025 11:12 AM (Vqx30)

58 A buddy and I were discussing the Euroweenies' laugable attempt at being warhawk protectors of the continent.

He likened them to a 75 yr old woman, all botox'd and bewigged, hanging out at the club because she's just certain the 25 yr. old studmuffin is just hungry to get all up in dat

I thought it was the perfect analogy

Posted by: kallisto at March 07, 2025 11:12 AM (dCxaZ)

59 Posted by: Lizzy at March 07, 2025 11:11 AM (Cki93)

"How do you keep an idiot busy" as a political strategy. See: the majority of the "division and hate" in this country.

Posted by: ... at March 07, 2025 11:13 AM (HfWSf)

60 7 Odds the US, possibly in a joint venture with OMG Russia Russia Russia, conducts a mission within 5 years to take or destroy all of the European Caliphate's remaining nuclear weapons?

forty-two!

Posted by: deep thought at March 07, 2025 11:13 AM (oY6Yp)

61 I didn't know the Frog of Shame guy posted anything other than the Frog of Shame.

Posted by: XTC at March 07, 2025 11:13 AM (UnA8+)

62 36 I have a feeling that if the United States withdrew all of our military personnel and cut off all financial aid to Europe they would collapse.
Posted by: Mister Scott
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Their financial aid consists of US troops maintaining their external security and being allowed to run up large trade surpluses with the US all the way back to the Marshall Plan days (big tariffs on most of US products as well).

Essentially the core Euroland is a depressing fading theme park complete with a lot of sullen inhabitants.

The average person in Mississippi in the US is wealthier per capita than the average European.

Posted by: whig at March 07, 2025 11:14 AM (ctrM5)

63 I'm sick of Ukraine. A WEF diversion to help Islam grow, as the dead Ukrainian men will be replaced by a army of Mohameds

Posted by: long night...lifted at March 07, 2025 11:14 AM (2NXcZ)

64 >>> 36 I have a feeling that if the United States withdrew all of our military personnel and cut off all financial aid to Europe they would collapse.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 07, 2025 11:10 AM (e5NfL)

Oh no!!!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 07, 2025 11:14 AM (Vqx30)

65 "We Can't Even Defend Kent Let Alone Kyiv" by British historian David Starkey is worth a watch.

https://tinyurl.com/3nz2j6uj

Posted by: ScaryMary at March 07, 2025 11:14 AM (i/l90)

66 But we have nukes! Which may or may not work!

Posted by: Untied Kingdom at March 07, 2025 11:14 AM (qUkBO)

67 And, BTW, the Russian accusation that NATO was waging a proxy war against Russia has turned out to be completely accurate.

It turns out that the HIMARS and Storm Shadow missiles that Ukraine has been using to strike deep into Russia are useless without American targeting information, which is now being withheld.

HIMARS is made in the US, is maintained by the US, and relies on targeting by the US.

The only Ukrainian in the loop is the guy pressing the launch button.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 07, 2025 11:14 AM (xTIDn)

68
From what I understand, the Cloggies could barely field a single company of tanks, so they filled out a German brigade... which the Krauts could barely eke out themselves.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 07, 2025 11:15 AM (FoIOl)

69 58 A buddy and I were discussing the Euroweenies' laugable attempt at being warhawk protectors of the continent.

He likened them to a 75 yr old woman, all botox'd and bewigged, hanging out at the club because she's just certain the 25 yr. old studmuffin is just hungry to get all up in dat

I thought it was the perfect analogy
Posted by: kallisto
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Life is a Cabaret old chum seems appropriate here. Adopting the Weimar Republic as a model for the EU doesn't seem to be working for them.

Posted by: whig at March 07, 2025 11:15 AM (ctrM5)

70 The current crop of European leaders is even worse than the bunch of idiots who started World War I.

Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 11:15 AM (77rzZ)

71 I have a feeling that if the United States withdrew all of our military personnel and cut off all financial aid to Europe they would collapse.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 07, 2025 11:10 AM (e5NfL)

Eh, they probably wouldn't collapse. But the EU would.

Once they have to look to their own defense again, they'll find that the interests of individual countries diverge way too much for this "United States of Europe" notion to be sustainable.

Posted by: Dr. T at March 07, 2025 11:15 AM (EynyL)

72 European nations can muster the will or discipline necessary to deal with the barbarians they've invited in through the main gates.

The only reason they would send their men to die in another country is to be rid of the native population once and for all in favor of the barbarians.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 07, 2025 11:15 AM (7fElN)

73 So the Euros have collectively lost their minds again. How many did they snuff the last time this happened?

75-80 million?

Plus WW1...

We need to just them have at it this time.

I got no more hecks to give.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at March 07, 2025 11:15 AM (MkuC5)

74 63 I'm sick of Ukraine. A WEF diversion to help Islam grow, as the dead Ukrainian men will be replaced by a army of Mohameds

i see turkey is volunteering to send peacekeeping troops to ukraine

Posted by: anachronda at March 07, 2025 11:15 AM (oY6Yp)

75 Behind Hogg is that a woman transitioning to Jeff Goldblum?

Posted by: ... at March 07, 2025 11:16 AM (HfWSf)

76 European nations CAN'T* muster the will or discipline necessary to deal with the barbarians they've invited in through the main gates.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 07, 2025 11:16 AM (7fElN)

77 It’s no different here. Who makes up the majority of grunts on the front lines? It’s not the kids of war mongers like Cheney or Biden. It’s not Ivy League grads. It’s not AWFLs who have Ukraine flags on their Facebook. It’s boys from rural America.

UK and Germany will conscript Hans and John while allowing Ahmed and Mohammed a religious exemption.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 07, 2025 11:16 AM (DNoz0)

78 Hogg is now a metaphorical pillow smothering the DNC. His latest escapade was suggesting that the DNC spend millions of bucks to create a Dem social network and he would run it for them. He is a particularly loathsome grifter that is so unashamed of his grifting that he says the unspoken part out loud.
Posted by: whig at March 07, 2025 11:11 AM (ctrM5)
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So he fits right in? I continue to believe a main reason why the Dums don't purge their party of obviously sleazy criminals, con artists, and general offscourings is because the entire party is sleazy criminals, con artists, and general offscourings. Lepers don't throw lepers out of the leper colony.

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 07, 2025 11:16 AM (iFTx/)

79 >>>Britain’s Starmer says Europe must take responsibility for defending itself

It's another Trumpmas miracle!

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 07, 2025 11:16 AM (i24o9)

80 i see turkey is volunteering to send peacekeeping troops to ukraine
Posted by: anachronda at March 07, 2025 11:15 AM (oY6Yp)

Aloha Snackbar

Posted by: long night...lifted at March 07, 2025 11:16 AM (2NXcZ)

81 Turkey is perfect. What do peacekeepers do besides rape, rob, kill and rape?

Posted by: ... at March 07, 2025 11:17 AM (HfWSf)

82 76 European nations CAN'T* muster the will or discipline necessary to deal with the barbarians they've invited in through the main gates.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 07, 2025 11:16 AM (7fElN)

Ony muslims have weapons, and now a law has passed giving white men more severe sentences than the muzz

Posted by: long night...lifted at March 07, 2025 11:17 AM (2NXcZ)

83 >>> 51 We dodged a bullet, staying out of WWI as long as we did. We shouldn't have gone in at all. But we have lost too many of our warriors in these smaller localized wars.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 07, 2025 11:12 AM (7PR43)

Hmm, what if the US *never* had gotten involved?

(I can't recall any SF 'alt history' novel dealing with this, either.)

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 07, 2025 11:18 AM (Vqx30)

84 67 And, BTW, the Russian accusation that NATO was waging a proxy war against Russia has turned out to be completely accurate.

It turns out that the HIMARS and Storm Shadow missiles that Ukraine has been using to strike deep into Russia are useless without American targeting information, which is now being withheld.

HIMARS is made in the US, is maintained by the US, and relies on targeting by the US.

The only Ukrainian in the loop is the guy pressing the launch button.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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Yep but then again, Russians and Chinese were heavily involved in both Korea and Vietnam in far more than 'advisory' roles.

That is the story of realism. Great powers play stupid games for stupid prizes. Way back before the Spanish American War, Thomas Reed, Speaker of the House, opposed imperialism for the US because it would kill the Republic. He was prescient.

Posted by: whig at March 07, 2025 11:18 AM (ctrM5)

85 They should be pushing the Muslims out of Europe instead or soon they will lie bleeding out in their own streets.
Posted by: long night...lifted at March 07, 2025 11:11 AM (2NXcZ)

*nods*

Posted by: Zombie Enoch Powell at March 07, 2025 11:18 AM (l3YAf)

86 81 Turkey is perfect. What do peacekeepers do besides rape, rob, kill and rape?
Posted by: ... at March 07, 2025 11:17 AM (HfWSf)

Pillage?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 07, 2025 11:18 AM (DNoz0)

87 i see turkey is volunteering to send peacekeeping troops to ukraine
Posted by: anachronda at March 07, 2025 11:15 AM (oY6Yp)

I'll bet they are. The Turks would love to expand their presence.

The media is already starting the "Ukraine is facing a demographic cliff. They need immigrants!" part of the playbook.

Second chance to sack Vienna, and this time I don't think the winged hussars are going to save the day.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 07, 2025 11:18 AM (uCjyK)

88 @83

I'd pay good money to see that.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at March 07, 2025 11:18 AM (MkuC5)

89 Brussels will allow the member states to print Euros to cover any emergency, and in exchange will demand conscription for the European Army.

(they don't want to risk conscripting the new Europeans, though, too dangerous)

Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2025 11:18 AM (D7oie)

90 >>Interestingly, Hogg's dad worked for the FBI. I'm sure that's not related to anything.
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Remarkable how much of this corruption goes back to the FBI and the CIA.

Posted by: electronic means at March 07, 2025 11:19 AM (WVQot)

91 83 >>> 51 We dodged a bullet, staying out of WWI as long as we did. We shouldn't have gone in at all. But we have lost too many of our warriors in these smaller localized wars.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 07, 2025 11:12 AM (7PR43)

Hmm, what if the US *never* had gotten involved?

(I can't recall any SF 'alt history' novel dealing with this, either.)

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 07, 2025 11:18 AM (Vqx30)

Modest territorial exchanges. Unclear whether WW2 happens. Unclear if socialist/revolutionary movements are put down in the aftermath.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at March 07, 2025 11:19 AM (eYoxG)

92 So he fits right in? I continue to believe a main reason why the Dums don't purge their party of obviously sleazy criminals, con artists, and general offscourings is because the entire party is sleazy criminals, con artists, and general offscourings. Lepers don't throw lepers out of the leper colony.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 07, 2025 11:16 AM (iFTx/)

——

That’s what happens when the foundation of your ideology is to deny and replace reality. Kicking out the sleezeballs would have to make an acknowledgement to the reality they try to destroy.

Posted by: Cray Cray at March 07, 2025 11:19 AM (KO2TK)

93 If the US should be giving arms to anyone it should be to whites in Europe.

Posted by: long night...lifted at March 07, 2025 11:19 AM (2NXcZ)

94 Hmm, what if the US *never* had gotten involved?
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Yep. The answer is we would not have jumped into WWII either.

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 07, 2025 11:19 AM (pLaQB)

95 > We don't want a caliphate to be nuclear armed, Russia sure as hell doesn't, and Israel will probably beat both of us to the bombing and reduction of capability.
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The UK has been described as an Islamic nuclear state. Not the first, but one of them. Probably to be followed by France.

Then, there's all the tactical nukes scattered around Europe for the never materialized WWIII.

So... a lot of nuclear weapons that can fall into radical Islamic hands. Used there, or here would be... bad.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 07, 2025 11:20 AM (Q4IgG)

96 >>> 74
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i see turkey is volunteering to send peacekeeping troops to ukraine
Posted by: anachronda at March 07, 2025 11:15 AM (oY6Yp)

*That* seems odd to me. Buffer against OMG Russia or general expansion?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 07, 2025 11:20 AM (Vqx30)

97 (they don't want to risk conscripting the new Europeans, though, too dangerous)

Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2025 11:18 AM (D7oie)

The migrants will be keeping the homefires burning and will be raping girls and butchering boys.

Posted by: long night...lifted at March 07, 2025 11:21 AM (2NXcZ)

98 So he fits right in? I continue to believe a main reason why the Dums don't purge their party of obviously sleazy criminals, con artists, and general offscourings is because the entire party is sleazy criminals, con artists, and general offscourings.

Lepers don't throw lepers out of the leper colony.
Posted by: Elric Blade

They only throw parts out.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 07, 2025 11:21 AM (A7Jfs)

99 >>>funny analogs to Europe asserting its self-reliance.

GOPer delegates asserting that it was they who would decide who would be the Republican nominee for POTUS in 2016.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 07, 2025 11:21 AM (i24o9)

100 If the US should be giving arms to anyone it should be to whites in Europe.
Posted by: long night...lifted at March 07, 2025 11:19 AM (2NXcZ)

*runs away sobbing*

Posted by: Michelle Fields at March 07, 2025 11:21 AM (HfWSf)

101 Yeah good luck EU going it alone without our Mitary Industrial Complex.

You don't even know how to do procurements.

Posted by: Just Lily at March 07, 2025 11:21 AM (jdnTX)

102 47 Germany pledged to defend Ukraine. How do German troops get to Ukraine? Through - wait for - it - Poland.

kyiv corridor > danzig corridor

Posted by: anachronda at March 07, 2025 11:21 AM (oY6Yp)

103 Modest territorial exchanges. Unclear whether WW2 happens. Unclear if socialist/revolutionary movements are put down in the aftermath.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at March 07, 2025 11:19 AM (eYoxG)

Germany probably doesn't get raped at Versailles, Adolph goes home and dies penniless after a failed career as an architect.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at March 07, 2025 11:21 AM (MkuC5)

104 Yep but then again, Russians and Chinese were heavily involved in both Korea and Vietnam in far more than 'advisory' roles.

True - Russians were flying many of the "Chinese" MIG-15 during the Korean War, and China was running a lot of North Vietnam's air defenses during the Vietnam War.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 07, 2025 11:21 AM (xTIDn)

105 9
‘ Aren't we at the point where Germany could field a BCT, if the US provided transport and air cover?’

FWIW. Germany’s new chancellor claims that they’re now going to re-arm, even if they have to deficit spend.

In my opinion, this is what Europe should be doing instead of us doing for them.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 07, 2025 11:21 AM (jbnUc)

106 So he fits right in? I continue to believe a main reason why the Dums don't purge their party of obviously sleazy criminals, con artists, and general offscourings is because the entire party is sleazy criminals, con artists, and general offscourings.

Lepers don't throw lepers out of the leper colony.
Posted by: Elric Blade

They only throw parts out.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 07, 2025 11:21 AM (A7Jfs)
_______

[Golf clap]

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 07, 2025 11:21 AM (iFTx/)

107 I’m sad how Europe has fallen. I preferred making fun of them when deep down I knew our culture came from theirs, and that they did have plenty of positive aspects about each of their nations.

Demons and globalists are going to demon and globalist.

Posted by: Cray Cray at March 07, 2025 11:22 AM (KO2TK)

108 Hmm, what if the US *never* had gotten involved?

(I can't recall any SF 'alt history' novel dealing with this, either.)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 07, 2025 11:18 AM (Vqx30)

Harry Turtledove did one, but I think it was more of an excuse to redo Man In The High Castle with the German Empire taking Eastern US states, and the Japanese the West coast.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2025 11:22 AM (D7oie)

109 Another problem: beefing up their defense budgets would require cuts to the welfare state they're so proud of. They've been able to focus on the butter, only because America has all the guns.
Posted by: Dr. T at March 07, 2025 11:08 AM (EynyL)

Does modern economics even teach the guns and butter conundrum anymore?
Seems like MMT would do away with that, as choices are unnecessary.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 07, 2025 11:22 AM (FCbAQ)

110 ave gone in at all. But we have lost too many of our warriors in these smaller localized wars.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 07, 2025 11:12 AM (7PR43)

Hmm, what if the US *never* had gotten involved?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

I've often thought about this. First, Germany would've won the war. Would've grabbed as many of the Entente's colonies as it could. And definitely would've gone to war with Bolshevik Russia.

And I think at some point we would've gone to war with them anyway. They would've started mucking around in Latin America with a view to undermining us (ala the Zimmermann Telegram), and we would've had to go after them.

Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 11:22 AM (77rzZ)

111 You don't even know how to do procurements.
Posted by: Just Lily

You mean blow billions of dollars on a hammer? Yeah, I'm sure they'll never figure it out.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 07, 2025 11:23 AM (mlg/3)

112 That is the story of realism. Great powers play stupid games for stupid prizes. Way back before the Spanish American War, Thomas Reed, Speaker of the House, opposed imperialism for the US because it would kill the Republic. He was prescient.
Posted by: whig at March 07, 2025 11:18 AM (ctrM5)

I think it was Eisenhower who said there is an inherent conflict between the idea of a self governing republic, and the idea of a global empire always at war, with spies and secret police around the world.

He then proceeded to start wars all over the world and allow the CIA to run wild overthrowing governments everywhere.

So maybe it wasn't him. Either way, it's the same contradiction that's evident in the "don't do your own research, trust the experts" line of thinking. Well, okay, if all I can do is trust experts and do whatever they tell me to do, why am I involved in this process at all? I thought we were supposed to be a well informed public voting on things based on our own thoughts. If I'm not allowed to have my own thoughts, then why am I even voting?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 07, 2025 11:23 AM (uCjyK)

113 Remember Hogg's business plan to start a pillow company focused first on the name and logo?
Which he wanted to crowd-source and have designed for free.

Not, you know, a viable product first.

I mean, perfect demonstration of the left-think.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 07, 2025 11:23 AM (Fsn05)

114 I'll bet they are. The Turks would love to expand their presence.

Ukraine used to be run by Muslims.

A lot of what Catherine the Great did was kicking the Turks out of Ukraine.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 07, 2025 11:23 AM (xTIDn)

115 Dreher is talking about "telescopic philanthropy"/ telescopic empathy:

@SdpShaun
Telescopic philanthropy - a term coined by Dickens in ‘Bleak House’ to describe the attitude of Mrs Jellyby, who sent funds to causes far overseas whilst neglecting the welfare of those closest to her - shows that the attitude of our government has been around for a long time.
- - - -
>>@pegobry_en
Libs are psychopaths who maintain a self___ as a "good person" through performative telescopic empathy toward distant groups. Because this pseudo-empathy is only about their narcissism, those groups only exist in their minds as props to use to display their virtue and they actually have infinite contempt for them.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 07, 2025 11:23 AM (Cki93)

116 103 Modest territorial exchanges. Unclear whether WW2 happens. Unclear if socialist/revolutionary movements are put down in the aftermath.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at March 07, 2025 11:19 AM (eYoxG)

Germany probably doesn't get raped at Versailles, Adolph goes home and dies penniless after a failed career as an architect.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at March 07, 2025 11:21 AM (MkuC5)

A lot of it depends on whether the socialist movements struggle to gain influence in a Kaiser-run Germany(which would presumably be harder without the war reparations straining their economy), and how well the Kaiser is able to resist them.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at March 07, 2025 11:23 AM (eYoxG)

117 Hmm, what if the US *never* had gotten involved?

(I can't recall any SF 'alt history' novel dealing with this, either.)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 07, 2025 11:18 AM (Vqx30)

Check this out:

https://is.gd/OLiIM9

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at March 07, 2025 11:23 AM (PiwSw)

118 Arthur clip crushed me. Grandma memories. Odd trigger.

Posted by: Francis at March 07, 2025 11:24 AM (bbuBP)

119 It’s no different here. Who makes up the majority of grunts on the front lines? It’s not the kids of war mongers like Cheney or Biden. It’s not Ivy League grads. It’s not AWFLs who have Ukraine flags on their Facebook. It’s boys from rural America.

UK and Germany will conscript Hans and John while allowing Ahmed and Mohammed a religious exemption.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 07, 2025 11:16 AM (DNoz0)

It’s almost as if killing the children of conservative whites is one of the goals of Forever War..

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 07, 2025 11:25 AM (l3YAf)

120 The EU's reaction to Russia is the same as the climate alarmist reaction.

Their actions betray their warnings.

I'll care when their actions show they care.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 07, 2025 11:25 AM (KbCG3)

121 Modest territorial exchanges. Unclear whether WW2 happens. Unclear if socialist/revolutionary movements are put down in the aftermath.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

Would the confiscatory financial penalties that were hung on Germany as a result of WW I still materialized? If so, yes, WW II would have still happened.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 07, 2025 11:25 AM (A7Jfs)

122 We dodged a bullet, staying out of WWI as long as we did. We shouldn't have gone in at all.
Posted by: Notsothoreau

Basically, Germany was stupid because they thought that going unrestricted sub warfare would cause the US to get in. They underestimated how much that Wilson hated war. It was the brilliant brainstorm of the Germans to offer alliance with Mexico to attack and regain the American Southwest that kicked the US into war via the Zimmerman Telegraph. To add insult to injury, the Germans used the special private telegraph service that Wilson ordered the US government to allow the Germans to use for peace negotiations as a backchannel for the German ambassador in the US to communicate with Berlin.

The Brits intercepted/decrypted the telegraph and because the US had the encrypted message already in its system, the Brits gave an American at the US embassy in London, how to decrypt the message. Thus, Wilson could claim that the message was decrypted by an American on American soil. As a bonus, German Foreign Minister Zimmerman admitted in open press conference to sending it. In addition, the Germans sent another telegraph to Mexico, after discovery, demanding war.

Posted by: whig at March 07, 2025 11:25 AM (ctrM5)

123 And why should they? They should be pushing the Muslims out of Europe instead or soon they will lie bleeding out in their own streets.
Posted by: long night...lifted at March 07, 2025 11:11 AM (2NXcZ)

soon?

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 07, 2025 11:25 AM (FCbAQ)

124 Rep. Pete Sessions to Introduce Make Elections Secure Act - Would Eliminate Voting Machines and Ensure Hand-Marked Paper Ballots - Severely Restrict Mail-in Voting
https://shorturl.at/sodfB
Gateway Pundit

It also mentions voter ID; I can't decide if that or restricting mail-in ballots will cause the most shrieking.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 07, 2025 11:25 AM (Vqx30)

125 That is the story of realism. Great powers play stupid games for stupid prizes. Way back before the Spanish American War, Thomas Reed, Speaker of the House, opposed imperialism for the US because it would kill the Republic. He was prescient.
Posted by: whig at March 07, 2025 11:18 AM (ctrM5)

Is Reed the one that declared after the SpanAm war that we think we have taken Spain's colonies, and we have instead become in turn the Spanish Empire?

Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2025 11:25 AM (D7oie)

126 109 Does modern economics even teach the guns and butter conundrum anymore?
Seems like MMT would do away with that, as choices are unnecessary.

hmmmm... *scribbles note* guns made out of butter

Posted by: modern monetary theorist at March 07, 2025 11:26 AM (oY6Yp)

127 Are there any decent countries in Europe besides Poland?

Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at March 07, 2025 11:26 AM (iS7Fo)

128 Things continue to progress in Germany:

Yesterday, at the hospital, we had a meeting about how the situation here and the other Munich hospitals are unsustainable. Clinics cannot handle the number of migrant medical emergencies, so they are starting to send everything to the main hospitals. Many Muslims are refusing treatment by female staff, and we women are now refusing to go among those migrants. Relations between the staff and migrants are going from bad to worse. Since last weekend, migrants going to the hospitals must be accompanied by police with K-9 units. *Many migrants have ADS, syphilis, open TB and many exotic diseases that we in Europe do not know how to treat.*

If they receive a prescription to the pharmacy; they learn they have to pay cash, this leads to unbelievable outbursts, especially when it is about drugs for the children. *They abandon the children to the pharmacy staff with the words: So, cure them yourselves.* So the police are not only guarding the clinics and hospitals, but also the large pharmacies.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 07, 2025 11:27 AM (xTIDn)

129 Yep. The answer is we would not have jumped into WWII either.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 07, 2025 11:19 AM (pLaQB)

Public opinion was massively against entering WWII, despite FDR's best efforts.

That all changed after Pearl Harbor. But even then, it's not clear that the US would have declared war on Germany. Germany made that decision for us, by declaring war against the US.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 07, 2025 11:27 AM (uCjyK)

130 Europeans can't even rouse themselves to prevent Islam from invading and raping and murdering their children and building a New Caliphate on the bones of Christendom.

The idea they'd actually send troops to Ukraine of pull money out of their nanny states iscomedy gold.

Posted by: Sharkman at March 07, 2025 11:27 AM (XO9QL)

131 Germany probably doesn't get raped at Versailles, Adolph goes home and dies penniless after a failed career as an architect.
Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at March 07, 2025 11:21 AM (MkuC5)

With his eye, energy and management skills, he could have become a builder.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2025 11:27 AM (D7oie)

132 Is Pete Sessions any relation to Snoozy Jeff?

Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 11:28 AM (77rzZ)

133 I think it was Eisenhower who said there is an inherent conflict between the idea of a self governing republic, and the idea of a global empire always at war, with spies and secret police around the world.

He then proceeded to start wars all over the world and allow the CIA to run wild overthrowing governments everywhere.

So maybe it wasn't him.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Ike got burned by several crises in later in his presidency by the IC. The uprising in Hungary causing a crackdown, the U2 flights, the Suez Crisis, and so on. Made him reflective about it late in his presidency. Truman wanted the CIA disbanded post presidency and JFK was leaning that way after Bay of Pigs/Diem assassination.

Posted by: whig at March 07, 2025 11:28 AM (ctrM5)

134 121 Modest territorial exchanges. Unclear whether WW2 happens. Unclear if socialist/revolutionary movements are put down in the aftermath.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

Would the confiscatory financial penalties that were hung on Germany as a result of WW I still materialized? If so, yes, WW II would have still happened.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 07, 2025 11:25 AM (A7Jfs)

No, without US intervention the war settlement would've been on closer to even terms(similar to past wars), likely with Germany "winning"(a chunk of territory at absurd cost). The US's entrance is what made a one-sided victory possible.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at March 07, 2025 11:28 AM (eYoxG)

135 124 It also mentions voter ID; I can't decide if that or restricting mail-in ballots will cause the most shrieking.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 07, 2025 11:25 AM (Vqx30)

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Voter ID is the play-acting of voter integrity. No one actually cares about it.

But the GOP fights for it publicly while the Democrats demand its destruction publicly.

However, neither really cares because that's not how elections are stolen. Yes, there are plenty of examples of people voting improperly like this, but the mass scale is done in the counting rooms, enhanced by messy, unclean voter rolls.

As long as the plebes are shouting about Voter ID, both GOP and Democrat can rig their own elections in back rooms all they want.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, leading the proletariat with Eisenstein at March 07, 2025 11:29 AM (GBKbO)

136 Are there any decent countries in Europe besides Poland?
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix

Hungary's decenter than Poland at this point.

Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 11:29 AM (77rzZ)

137 Any safe elections bill must include a time limit to count. California doesn’t finish counting until mid December. This kind of shit has to stop before any election is legit.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 07, 2025 11:29 AM (DNoz0)

138 118 Arthur clip crushed me. Grandma memories. Odd trigger.
Posted by: Francis
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Never cared for that movie-Gielgud's butler character was the best thing in the movie.

Posted by: whig at March 07, 2025 11:29 AM (ctrM5)

139 That all changed after Pearl Harbor. But even then, it's not clear that the US would have declared war on Germany. Germany made that decision for us, by declaring war against the US.
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True. I can never understand why Hitler did that. Imagine if he declared war on Japan? (wink, wink, nod, nod).

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 07, 2025 11:29 AM (pLaQB)

140 The "Islamic Problem" in Europe won't be addressed by Europeans until it's probably too late. It's just not worth their effort right now.

I bet the Muslims will make it worth their effort before the end of the decade however. Whether the Europeans will stand up or not at that point is debatable.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 07, 2025 11:30 AM (Q4IgG)

141 Many Muslims are refusing treatment by female staff, and we women are now refusing to go among those migrants. Relations between the staff and migrants are going from bad to worse.
Since last weekend, migrants going to the hospitals must be accompanied by police with K-9 units.

Goatfuckers encountering police dogs. Should be fun.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 07, 2025 11:30 AM (A7Jfs)

142 Posted by: Lizzy at March 07, 2025 11:23 AM (Cki93)

You ever watch the way the Leftard media outside of politics, will build up a celebrity in the tabloids only to later rejoice in tearing them down? The way they once presented them as a slay king or yas queen, they then revel in their downfall with an almost inhuman sadistic glee.

They do the same politically but it's less obvious. They anoint blacks, they anoint Jews, the anoint workers, they anoint women, they anoint gays, only to catastrophically abandon them (for example - blacks to the inner cities and diminished populations, Jews to the iSlimes and commies, workers to the takers, and gays and women to trans). It's a really interesting dynamic. Very easily explained but still interesting to watch.

It's like the power to elevate and subsequently devour is what they really crave.

Posted by: ... at March 07, 2025 11:30 AM (HfWSf)

143 We'll make up our losses from USAID by getting jobs. It'll be great! Just you watch. We'll show 'em!

---- K. Harris (in wine super)

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at March 07, 2025 11:31 AM (g8Ew8)

144 >> Remember Hogg's business plan to start a pillow company focused first on the name and logo?
Which he wanted to crowd-source and have designed for free.
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Whatever a Democrat wants, it always has to be for free. Every time.

Posted by: electronic means at March 07, 2025 11:31 AM (WVQot)

145 True. I can never understand why Hitler did that. Imagine if he declared war on Japan? (wink, wink, nod, nod).
Posted by: Pudinhead

He was pissed at us for secretly helping the Brits and Russians. So, it wasn't totally out of the blue.

Still, a huge and totally unnecessary blunder.

Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 11:31 AM (77rzZ)

146 Stupor

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at March 07, 2025 11:31 AM (g8Ew8)

147 I saw a video from some EU country, Germany perhaps, that was teaching citizens how to use a towel to defend against knife attacks. These are not people who are serious about survival.

Posted by: ScaryMary at March 07, 2025 11:32 AM (i/l90)

148 Look out, e'rryone!

@disclosetv 3m
JUST IN - Kamala Harris will decide whether she will run for governor of California by the end of summer — CBS

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 07, 2025 11:32 AM (mlg/3)

149 Ike got burned by several crises in later in his presidency by the IC. The uprising in Hungary causing a crackdown, the U2 flights, the Suez Crisis, and so on. Made him reflective about it late in his presidency. Truman wanted the CIA disbanded post presidency and JFK was leaning that way after Bay of Pigs/Diem assassination.
Posted by: whig at March 07, 2025 11:28 AM (ctrM5)

In my reading on Ike, he seemed to get played pretty often by a lot of people.

Truman's letter about reigning in the CIA published a month after JFK got assassinated should have been a bigger deal, but I guess no one cared what Truman thought by that point.

And yeah, I think it's clear JFK wanted to get rid of the CIA. I believe he's quoted as saying he wanted to "scatter it in to a thousand pieces" or something like that.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 07, 2025 11:32 AM (uCjyK)

150 True. I can never understand why Hitler did that. Imagine if he declared war on Japan? (wink, wink, nod, nod).
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 07, 2025 11:29 AM (pLaQB)

I don't know. My guess is that he was hoping he could convince Japan to invade Russia through Asia and force the USSR to fight a two front war.

But who knows? Maybe he just knew the writing was on the wall. FDR was doing everything he could to get the US in to the war.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 07, 2025 11:33 AM (uCjyK)

151 >>Kamala Harris will decide whether she will run for governor of California by the end of summer
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The fierce urgency of now.

Posted by: electronic means at March 07, 2025 11:33 AM (WVQot)

152 Rod Draher is a snake but he is correct on the Ukraine.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 07, 2025 11:33 AM (lhenN)

153 145 True. I can never understand why Hitler did that. Imagine if he declared war on Japan? (wink, wink, nod, nod).
Posted by: Pudinhead

He was pissed at us for secretly helping the Brits and Russians. So, it wasn't totally out of the blue.

Still, a huge and totally unnecessary blunder.

Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 11:31 AM (77rzZ)

Hitler's willingness to engage in aggressive and reckless plays(against the advice of basically everyone) is what lead to Nazi Germany's initial successes however.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at March 07, 2025 11:34 AM (eYoxG)

154 Still, a huge and totally unnecessary blunder.
Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 11:31 AM (77rzZ)

But not as huge as getting involved in a land war in Asia.

Posted by: Vizzini at March 07, 2025 11:34 AM (PiwSw)

155 >>> 135
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Voter ID is the play-acting of voter integrity. No one actually cares about it.

But the GOP fights for it publicly while the Democrats demand its destruction publicly.

However, neither really cares because that's not how elections are stolen. Yes, there are plenty of examples of people voting improperly like this, but the mass scale is done in the counting rooms, enhanced by messy, unclean voter rolls.

As long as the plebes are shouting about Voter ID, both GOP and Democrat can rig their own elections in back rooms all they want.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, leading the proletariat with Eisenstein at March 07, 2025 11:29 AM (GBKbO)

So the voter ID requirement would cause the most shrieking?

I am somewhat encouraged that I have seen efforts to poke around voter rolls, but nothing substantial (yet?).

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 07, 2025 11:34 AM (Vqx30)

156 Would the confiscatory financial penalties that were hung on Germany as a result of WW I still materialized? If so, yes, WW II would have still happened.

Posted by: rickb223
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One thing never mentioned is that Germany imposed a similarly vindictive and massive penalty on the French for the Franco Prussian war in 1870-71. French paid it off in a few years by a massive effort involving the whole country but it impoverished the French nation and consequently caused the Germans to get the big head. The Germans taking Alsace and Lorraine in that war was the topper and the Germans promptly went about enraging the French over the treatment of their compatriots in those provinces.

Bismarck disagreed with the taking of Alsace and Lorraine--correctly forecasting it would end up biting Germany in the ass. Kaiser at the time disagreed and took them anyway for kicks.

Versailles was the French revenge that replayed 1871 events--taking back Alsace and Lorraine provinces and imposing a similar sized fine on Germany. In fairness, France was devastated as the war was fought on its own ground. The 1871 war resulted in little damage to Germany soil.

Posted by: whig at March 07, 2025 11:35 AM (ctrM5)

157 147 I saw a video from some EU country, Germany perhaps, that was teaching citizens how to use a towel to defend against knife attacks. These are not people who are serious about survival.
Posted by: ScaryMary at March 07, 2025 11:32 AM (i/l90)

At least they know you should never leave home without your towel.

Posted by: Just Lily at March 07, 2025 11:35 AM (jdnTX)

158 Kamala Harris will decide whether she will run for governor of California by the end of summer
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Note how non-news this headline is. They're really trying to get Trump's narrative off the front pages.

Posted by: ... at March 07, 2025 11:35 AM (HfWSf)

159 The only thing the Euros need to defend against is the hordes of Third World Savages they have let settle in their countries.

The Wogs.They don't start at Calais, anymore.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 07, 2025 11:35 AM (8zz6B)

160 "However, neither really cares because that's not how elections are stolen. Yes, there are plenty of examples of people voting improperly like this, but the mass scale is done in the counting rooms, enhanced by messy, unclean voter rolls."

And most of this goes on in a big cities controlled by Democrat machines. Detroit, Chicago, Philadelphia.... So, when they say " no evidence of voter fraud" remember that none of the cities where it happens are of a mind to investigate it
.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at March 07, 2025 11:35 AM (INbEb)

161 Hitler's willingness to engage in aggressive and reckless plays(against the advice of basically everyone) is what lead to Nazi Germany's initial successes however.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

True.

Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 11:35 AM (77rzZ)

162 >>> 142
==
It's like the power to elevate and subsequently devour is what they really crave.
Posted by: ... at March 07, 2025 11:30 AM (HfWSf)

*tee hee*

Posted by: Stan at March 07, 2025 11:35 AM (Vqx30)

163 Thx Buck.

Turkey has been bombing for he crap out of the Kurds in Eastern Syria. The Sunnis in Syria are killing Alawites . No one likes the Palis. Israel is pounding Hamas and Hezbollah between cease fires ( Dennis Miller - stopping to reload)

In other words , a day ending in y in the Middle East

Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 07, 2025 11:35 AM (2Km7O)

164 155 So the voter ID requirement would cause the most shrieking? I am somewhat encouraged that I have seen efforts to poke around voter rolls, but nothing substantial (yet?).
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 07, 2025 11:34 AM (Vqx30)

======

Oh, yes. The shrieking will be about voter ID.

But it's just noise.

Democrats and Republicans would murder to keep their messy voter rolls.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, leading the proletariat with Eisenstein at March 07, 2025 11:35 AM (GBKbO)

165 We'll make up our losses from USAID by getting jobs. It'll be great! Just you watch. We'll show 'em!

---- K. Harris (in wine super)
--
Step 1: Sign with talent agency. (Check)
Step 2: Get talented
Step 3: Profit!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 07, 2025 11:36 AM (Fsn05)

166 Check this out:

https://is.gd/OLiIM9
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at March 07, 2025

***
I read that one some years ago!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 07, 2025 11:36 AM (J2vNu)

167 Common Sense Towel Control!

Posted by: ... at March 07, 2025 11:36 AM (HfWSf)

168 I saw a video from some EU country, Germany perhaps, that was teaching citizens how to use a towel to defend against knife attacks. These are not people who are serious about survival.
Posted by: ScaryMary

I wonder when Heckler & Koch will move all operations to the US since Germany is gone.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 07, 2025 11:36 AM (A7Jfs)

169
Note the "Re-arm Europe" meme that Eugyppius commented on:
https://tinyurl.com/25y5368w

He thought that was a joke. But apparently it's real.

BTW, if you don't know what that's a reference to, don't look it up. You don't want to know.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 07, 2025 11:36 AM (w6EFb)

170 Is Pete Sessions any relation to Snoozy Jeff?

somethings up with Pete. He has a long history of being one of the oiliest of GOPERs ever. He lost his seat (Dallas area) and moved to Waco or somewhere like that and after getting back in is emerging as a changed pol and he seems to be much better.

Posted by: DanMan at March 07, 2025 11:36 AM (8uzBS)

171 The voter id question obscures the fact that its probably easier to discard votes than manufacture them.

Posted by: ... at March 07, 2025 11:37 AM (HfWSf)

172 Hitler hit on 17 a couple times. Got a 4 and thought he could never lose. Then he started getting face cards. And the rest is history.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 07, 2025 11:37 AM (DNoz0)

173

ow-ow-OW!!

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at March 07, 2025 11:37 AM (5hfjS)

174 160 And most of this goes on in a big cities controlled by Democrat machines. Detroit, Chicago, Philadelphia.... So, when they say " no evidence of voter fraud" remember that none of the cities where it happens are of a mind to investigate it
.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at March 07, 2025 11:35 AM (INbEb)

=======

If a Republican were to somehow squeak by to get the PA governorship, the way to total domination would be demanding audits of both the city voter rolls and the city's census of Philly and Pittsburgh.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, leading the proletariat with Eisenstein at March 07, 2025 11:37 AM (GBKbO)

175 I wonder when Heckler & Koch will move all operations to the US since Germany is gone.
Posted by: rickb223

The Czechs probably mfr most of their pieces.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 07, 2025 11:38 AM (mlg/3)

176
Huh.

We watched "Arthur"(1981) last night on Criterion.

Always enjoyable and full of laughs. One of the best comedies ever written.

Check it out if you've never seen it.

WARNING!: Avoid the awful, no-good, terrible remake with Russel Brand.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 07, 2025 11:38 AM (iJfKG)

177 Forbes has a "Happening Soon" live stream up with a Trump announcement.

Benny Johnson has a "Breaking News" live stream up where he is speculating about the Trump Assassin from PA.

Forbes: https://www.youtube.com/live/FdTwHYFYP20

I've deleted the tracking tag (si=...). I'll try tinyurl if this doesn't work.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at March 07, 2025 11:38 AM (MDBTH)

178 If Hitler had just slowed his roll by a couple of years he would have had deep strike rockets and jets fighters and bombers. This would have given him a real pimp hand versus the Brits and Soviets. The guy was a compulsive gambler, though.

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 07, 2025 11:38 AM (pLaQB)

179 >>Kamala Harris will decide whether she will run for governor of California by the end of summer
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Kamala Harris will decide whether she will divorce Slappy Emhoff immediately afterwards

Posted by: electronic means at March 07, 2025 11:38 AM (WVQot)

180 65
“ We Can't Even Defend Kent Let Alone Kyiv" by British historian David Starkey is worth a watch”

I’ve been watching those too.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 07, 2025 11:38 AM (jbnUc)

181 True. I can never understand why Hitler did that.

Sebastian Haffner, a German "historical journalist", said that Hitler's goal of conquering Europe ended on December 5-6, 1941 when the Russian Moscow counteroffensive pushed the German army away from Moscow, so he was pretty indifferent to how the war went after that point.

Hitler then focused on his second major goal, killing Europe's Jews, which was planned out at the Wannsee Conference on January 20, 1942.

Seems plausible.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 07, 2025 11:38 AM (xTIDn)

182 Goatfuckers encountering police dogs. Should be fun.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 07, 2025 11:30 AM (A7Jfs)

I have it on good authority that Malinois and GSDs love almost anything with the taint of goat.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at March 07, 2025 11:39 AM (MkuC5)

183 It's like the power to elevate and subsequently devour is what they really crave.
Posted by: ... at March 07, 2025 11:30 AM (HfWSf)

It’s perpetual Leninism.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 07, 2025 11:39 AM (l3YAf)

184 Forbes link above works fine. More than 5000 waiting. Stream stated 27 minutes ago. No action yet.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at March 07, 2025 11:39 AM (MDBTH)

185 Voter ID:

It's been said before by someone who is a serious jerkwad.

It's not about who votes. It's about who counts those votes.

Voter ID is a good thing, really. It's not the end all be all of reform though. What stops a county at the end of voting from looking at the total votes cast vs the total voters and then finding votes lost in a mailroom to make up the difference? Not much, sadly.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at March 07, 2025 11:40 AM (ky8PV)

186 I would simply love DOGE or DataRepublican to pool the voter rolls from all 50 states and then look for duplicates, irregularities (e.g. 300 year olds still voting, 150 people registered to vote from the same single family home, more registered voters in a town than its population, etc.).

The Left has implemented so many different ways to commit fraud that there is no single bullet solution.
Voter ID helps, eliminating mail-in ballots helps, cleaning the voter rolls regular as is legally required but never done helps, and on and on.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 07, 2025 11:40 AM (Cki93)

187 I have it on good authority that Malinois and GSDs love almost anything with the taint of goat.
Posted by: CZ

*snort

Posted by: rickb223 at March 07, 2025 11:40 AM (A7Jfs)

188 I noticed an interesting thing there Germany and France. In France the muzzies speak French. Has to do with colonial history but they’re sort of integrated into French society.

In Germany, the muzzies speak their home language be it Turkish, Arabic, Farsi, whatever. They’re completely out of German culture. Even 2nd and 3rd generations live in this exclusionary environment.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 07, 2025 11:40 AM (DNoz0)

189 Arthur: " you're a hooker, I just thought I was doing great with you"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 07, 2025 11:40 AM (2Km7O)

190 British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said Europe must take responsibility for defending itself...

I suspect that flying clubs in Britain can get more restored Hurricanes and Spitfires into the air than can the RAF with their modern fighters.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 07, 2025 11:41 AM (W/lyH)

191 Dominion counts the votes, Joseph Stalin would be proud of that

Posted by: Skip i at March 07, 2025 11:41 AM (fwDg9)

192 75
‘ Behind Hogg is that a woman transitioning to Jeff Goldblum?’

That must be ‘Mrs.’ Hogg

Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 07, 2025 11:42 AM (jbnUc)

193 In Germany, the muzzies speak their home language be it Turkish, Arabic, Farsi, whatever. They’re completely out of German culture. Even 2nd and 3rd generations live in this exclusionary environment.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

Now do parts of Texas & California in regards to Spanish.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 07, 2025 11:42 AM (A7Jfs)

194 No, without US intervention the war settlement would've been on closer to even terms(similar to past wars), likely with Germany "winning"(a chunk of territory at absurd cost). The US's entrance is what made a one-sided victory possible.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at March 07, 2025 11:28 AM (eYoxG)

The financial and economic burden was unsupportable, and by 1917 the Austrians and Italians had just about collapsed, the Balkans had just about collapsed and the French and Russians were suffering mutinies. Another six months and I think they whole front would have collapsed in place with mutinies and revolts at home.
It would not have been inconceivable, for example, for British troops being called to India or Ireland and the North Counties to put down rebellions, or the Paris street to have rebelled against the Republic, again.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2025 11:42 AM (D7oie)

195 It's as simple as a addition problem that is made so complicated fraud has to be the only reason for it.

Posted by: Skip i at March 07, 2025 11:42 AM (fwDg9)

196 >>> 164
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Democrats and Republicans would murder to keep their messy voter rolls.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, leading the proletariat with Eisenstein at March 07, 2025 11:35 AM (GBKbO)

I've mentioned a couple times before, there's a woman in GA who has been working on data analysis of the state voter rolls, and she was able to get some problem names removed. Then she started seeing many of these same names restored in huge bunches all at once, not long after they were removed. I wonder who could do something like that...?

Posted by: Stan at March 07, 2025 11:42 AM (Vqx30)

197
I wonder when Heckler & Koch will move all operations to the US since Germany is gone.
Posted by: rickb223

--

Like we used to have pre-ban and post-ban mags, I hope we don't have Pre-Sucky Germany H&Ks versus Current-Sucky Germany H&Ks.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at March 07, 2025 11:42 AM (ky8PV)

198 Lepers don't throw lepers out of the leper colony.
Posted by: Elric Blade

They only throw parts out.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 07, 2025 11:21 AM (A7Jfs)
_______

Lepers are big on hockey. Their face offs are lit.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at March 07, 2025 11:42 AM (g8Ew8)

199 In my reading on Ike, he seemed to get played pretty often by a lot of people.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
========
Ike's career was a long stint as a staff officer aka unblooded. Fred Greenstein called Ike's presidency as the Hidden Hand presidency where Ike played a genial sometimes befuddled character in public while playing a ruthless passive aggressive game behind the scenes. That meant someone smart enough to hoist Ike on his own petard by make Ike live up to his public pronouncements. Nixon was one such example, and the Dulles brothers running American foreign policy were another. Allan, in particular, was a piece of work. Even Kruschev managed to use the U2 shootdown as an opportunity to lecture Ike about his public pronouncements did not match what he was doing in private.

Staff officers often learn subterfuge in dealing with superiors and I think Ike learned that game far too well and continued it as president.

Posted by: whig at March 07, 2025 11:42 AM (ctrM5)

200 Posted by: whig at March 07, 2025 11:35 AM (ctrM5)

Thanks for that, Whig.

The German Imperial government in control of Europe would of course have been better than the Nazis, but not by a whole lot. No genocide (at least not of the Jews), but, still, they were a nasty lot.

And they would've reacted to any resistance like they did to the Hereros in SW Africa.

The only possible positive aspect of a German victory in WWI would've been taking out the Bolsheviks in Russia. But they probably would not have been able to take them out entirely and probably would have gotten bogged down in a quagmire there.

Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 11:42 AM (77rzZ)

201 1. Euros want to improve their military.
2. Enlist Muslims to meet recruitment targets.
3. Muslim take over military stage coups.
4. Profit

Posted by: Archer at March 07, 2025 11:42 AM (IDphi)

202 Voter ID should be digital. Scan the license and that makes a digital record. The number of ballots cast has to match the number of digital scans. No digital ID scan, no ballot issued.

It could be done if there was the will to legislate it and of course enforce it.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 07, 2025 11:43 AM (DNoz0)

203
If you don't believe that Re-arm Europe graphic was real, here's the posting on the official EU Commission X feed:
https://tinyurl.com/2c9n8lvk

There has got be a mole in there doing this.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 07, 2025 11:43 AM (w6EFb)

204 I've mentioned a couple times before, there's a woman in GA who has been working on data analysis of the state voter rolls, and she was able to get some problem names removed. Then she started seeing many of these same names restored in huge bunches all at once, not long after they were removed. I wonder who could do something like that...?
Posted by: Stan
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Sec of State Ratshitburger is doing that. Someone who fully deserves investigation and prosecution for what he has done to elections in GA. Kemp does too.

Posted by: whig at March 07, 2025 11:43 AM (ctrM5)

205 D'oh!!!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 07, 2025 11:43 AM (Vqx30)

206 True. I can never understand why Hitler did that. Imagine if he declared war on Japan? (wink, wink, nod, nod).
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 07, 2025 11:29 AM (pLaQB)

Up through the 30's Germany had heavy trade with China, until the Japanese pointed out that if they were going to be allies with the Japanese, they had to stop trading with the Chinese.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2025 11:44 AM (D7oie)

207 Could this be an 'Art of the Deal' thing?
Let 'em sit, and stew, and when they finally accept the reality of just exactly how well and truly f**cked they are without us,
Trump steps up and says,
"Fine, we'll pick up where we left off, go back to how it was."
"For Greenland."

Posted by: OldManMike at March 07, 2025 11:44 AM (vuDVZ)

208 I have a good one for Zelenskyy. In the movie "My Girl" Macauley Culkin hits a wasp nest with a stick continuously for no particular reason. The wasps, of course, get angry and retaliate.

That's Zelenskyy...and Culkin is about the same height in that movie.

Posted by: Orson at March 07, 2025 11:45 AM (dIske)

209 As long as I'm riffing, I don't think voter fraud is all that centralized. I don't think there's some Dr Evil type directing all of it, but perhaps individual counties/precincts/etc doing their things more or less independently. Having it decentralized means rooting it all out is very difficult.

Which is probably the idea.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at March 07, 2025 11:45 AM (ky8PV)

210 >I’ve come to the conclusion that Western Europe could be, with minimal difficulty, conquered by the National Guard of any one American state

France could be conquered by a typical Cub Scout troop.

A Daisy Scout group on a good day.

> British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said Europe must take responsibility for defending itself

This fuckstick can't (or won't) even defend his country's children against gang rapists, much less being capable of handing a genuine military threat.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 07, 2025 11:45 AM (W5ArC)

211 Voter ID should be digital. Scan the license and that makes a digital record. The number of ballots cast has to match the number of digital scans. No digital ID scan, no ballot issued.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

Um, digital ID is essentially a license to copy/paste votes. Paper or GTFO.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 07, 2025 11:46 AM (mlg/3)

212 If you don't believe that Re-arm Europe graphic was real, here's the posting on the official EU Commission X feed:
https://tinyurl.com/2c9n8lvk

The unelected European Commission sees the current war fever as a golden opportunity to 1) finally turn the EU into a European super-state, and 2) crush dissent.

"It's not a crisis, it's an opportunity."

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 07, 2025 11:46 AM (xTIDn)

213 > I suspect that flying clubs in Britain can get more restored Hurricanes and Spitfires into the air than can the RAF with their modern fighters.
Posted by: Diogenes
---------
The USAF is at it's lowest readiness levels in history. The Navy's fleets are stretched thin and in desperate need of repair/refit. The Army is still trying to unfuck itself from DEI.

We're in equally deep shit if the balloon goes up.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 07, 2025 11:46 AM (Q4IgG)

214 in which I point at Europe and laugh. Ha! You had it all! You were the pinnacle of modern civilization! You explored the world, settled it, conquered it! You led the world for centuries! And you fucking threw it away for someone else's feels! You destroyed your culture, your, economy and your country because some dumb fuck cry bully whined that it wasn't faaaiir! And now, after decades of demanding that someone else take care of protecting you, you..YOU! Imagine that somehow, somewhere in your pitiful excuse for citizens there are men! Real men! Men who sweat, swear, fight, or fuck without hesitation or restraint!?! YOU BRED THAT OUT OF YOUR POPULATION!!!! Your elites wanted a submissive population to rule and you GAVE THE MOTHERFUCKERS WHAT THEY WANTED!!! You expect daddy America to protect and defend you, and now that daddy has finally told you to stand on your own fucking feet, you think you can easily reverse the damage and find men in your population to protect and defend you.
I could wish you good luck. I won't. I don't believe in luck. I believe God helps those who help themselves. You didn't want God around to interfere. So instead I will wish you an ugly death.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at March 07, 2025 11:46 AM (4XwPj)

215 British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said Europe must take responsibility for defending itself..

and if it gets more white European males killed in the process and accelerates the demographic shift, all the better

Posted by: WEF at March 07, 2025 11:47 AM (jGJov)

216 My brother, sister, and father-in-law all served in the Iowa National Guard; and therefore I rate that first post as "true."

Posted by: pookysgirl grew up by a IANG post at March 07, 2025 11:47 AM (Wt5PA)

217 >>> 209 As long as I'm riffing, I don't think voter fraud is all that centralized. I don't think there's some Dr Evil type directing all of it, but perhaps individual counties/precincts/etc doing their things more or less independently. Having it decentralized means rooting it all out is very difficult.

Which is probably the idea.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at March 07, 2025 11:45 AM (ky8PV)

It doesn't need to be centralized to be effective. They are all 'working towards the' hmm, not the Fuhrer, they probably call it the Future or their Precious Democracy or some such.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 07, 2025 11:47 AM (Vqx30)

218 If Hitler had just slowed his roll by a couple of years he would have had deep strike rockets and jets fighters and bombers. This would have given him a real pimp hand versus the Brits and Soviets. The guy was a compulsive gambler, though.

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 07, 2025 11:38 AM

If he had decided to postpone the invasion of Russia until 1942 like his generals advised him to, he very well might have won victory in the east.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 07, 2025 11:48 AM (e5NfL)

219 Dudley Moore and Peter Ustinov improvising opera:

https://youtu.be/R-JRE9K0zWU?t=30

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at March 07, 2025 11:48 AM (PiwSw)

220 If Belgium hadn't punched above their weight and delayed the Germans for a month in WWI, German would have occupied Paris and the war would have been over with the then normal war settlements, move the border, a little geld changes hands, transfer a colony or two, normal Great Power stuff of the age.

Think how things would be different today.

Fucking Flems.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Sunday is Vic's Birthday at March 07, 2025 11:48 AM (jc0TO)

221 I’ve come to the conclusion that Western Europe could be, with minimal difficulty, conquered by the National Guard of any one American state

I joked in New Zealand that Oregon and New Zealand had equivalent militaries, except that Oregon had a better air force. (The Oregon National Guard has a F-15 squadron.)

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 07, 2025 11:48 AM (xTIDn)

222 Voter ID should be digital. Scan the license and that makes a digital record. The number of ballots cast has to match the number of digital scans. No digital ID scan, no ballot issued.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

Um, digital ID is essentially a license to copy/paste votes. Paper or GTFO.
Posted by: weft cut-loop

Voter ID should be digital. Scan the iris.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 07, 2025 11:48 AM (A7Jfs)

223 https://www.youtube.com/live/nzatd7YsPN0

Benny Johnson has Mike Benz (i think) on now.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at March 07, 2025 11:48 AM (MDBTH)

224 Kier Starmer took a knee for George Floyd.

Posted by: ScaryMary at March 07, 2025 11:49 AM (i/l90)

225 Mocking aside David Hogg is one weird looking bugger--almost birth defect weird.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at March 07, 2025 11:49 AM (kTd/k)

226 207 Could this be an 'Art of the Deal' thing?
Let 'em sit, and stew, and when they finally accept the reality of just exactly how well and truly f**cked they are without us,
Trump steps up and says,
"Fine, we'll pick up where we left off, go back to how it was."
"For Greenland."
Posted by: OldManMike at March 07, 2025 11:44 AM (vuDVZ)
***

Good point.
I was thinking that there are very few, if any, muzzies in Greenland today. The people there may indeed want to become a US protectorate as they watch Denmark fail.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 07, 2025 11:49 AM (W/lyH)

227 The voter id question obscures the fact that its probably easier to discard votes than manufacture them.
Posted by: ... at March 07, 2025 11:37 AM (HfWSf)

which means we are going to need a shared ledger of some sort, one fork with the Dems and one fork with the Pubs.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2025 11:49 AM (D7oie)

228 Voter ID should be digital. Scan the iris.
Posted by: rickb223

Scan my dick, fascist.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 07, 2025 11:49 AM (mlg/3)

229 Whatever happened to Liza Minelli?

I haven't thought of her in ages.

Posted by: eleven at March 07, 2025 11:49 AM (0HaGk)

230 Up through the 30's Germany had heavy trade with China, until the Japanese pointed out that if they were going to be allies with the Japanese, they had to stop trading with the Chinese.
Posted by: Kindltot

I've read that Chiang Kai-Shek's son was even serving with the German army. Got called home by his father when it invaded Poland.

Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 11:49 AM (77rzZ)

231 209 As long as I'm riffing, I don't think voter fraud is all that centralized. I don't think there's some Dr Evil type directing all of it, but perhaps individual counties/precincts/etc doing their things more or less independently. Having it decentralized means rooting it all out is very difficult.

Which is probably the idea.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at March 07, 2025 11:45 AM (ky8PV)

It's not centralized at the highest level, but the material stuff is centralized in local party organizations and unions, largely in cities. The local Democrats have to get paid off by the national org for their work.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at March 07, 2025 11:49 AM (eYoxG)

232 Mocking aside David Hogg is one weird looking bugger--almost birth defect weird.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at March 07, 2025 11:49 AM

The male-ish form of Greta.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Sunday is Vic's Birthday at March 07, 2025 11:49 AM (jc0TO)

233 >>> 225 Mocking aside David Hogg is one weird looking bugger--almost birth defect weird.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at March 07, 2025 11:49 AM (kTd/k)

Just like his future ex-wife Scoldilocks!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 07, 2025 11:49 AM (Vqx30)

234 Virtue signaling - the currency of the self-righteous who want to be aplauded for having the correct thoughts without any of the sacrifice required by correct actions.

Posted by: Momlady at March 07, 2025 11:49 AM (boBaL)

235 The poster for My Girl used to get vandalized (pre-meme snailmail days) with "likes to take it up the ass".

It's visual.

Posted by: ... at March 07, 2025 11:50 AM (HfWSf)

236 Digitalization makes everything easier.

Especially fraud.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at March 07, 2025 11:50 AM (ky8PV)

237 > Hitler hit on 17 a couple times.

Hey, the age of consent in Germany is 14.

17 is perfectly legal.

Posted by: Vile Hitler! at March 07, 2025 11:50 AM (W5ArC)

238 "I’d wish 'Godspeed' to Europe as they try to forge ahead, independent of the United States, but Europe has rejected God."

Oh, but Europe has embraced Allah whole-heartedly.

Posted by: Ralph at March 07, 2025 11:50 AM (8WZD4)

239 153 145 True. I can never understand why Hitler did that. Imagine if he declared war on Japan? (wink, wink, nod, nod).
Posted by: Pudinhead

He was pissed at us for secretly helping the Brits and Russians. So, it wasn't totally out of the blue.

Still, a huge and totally unnecessary blunder.

Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 11:31 AM (77rzZ)

Hitler's willingness to engage in aggressive and reckless plays(against the advice of basically everyone) is what lead to Nazi Germany's initial successes however.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy
======
Something that flew below the radar (leak happened just before Pearl Harbor) is the Rainbow 5 War Plan of the US was leaked to the anti-FDR Chicago Tribune and published on Dec. 4th. In it, the plan specifically outlined the Germany first strategy agreed upon by UK and US. Very possible that this leak helped Herr Schikelgruber to make his mind up Dec. 11th to declare war.

Posted by: whig at March 07, 2025 11:50 AM (ctrM5)

240 Wait. “Americans - You Suck!” isn’t a winning campaign for Democrats?

“At every turn, they ensure someone else pays the price for their virtue signaling”

Aka “Your Death Before Their Dishonor” coined by Theodore Dalrymple.

Posted by: Common Tater at March 07, 2025 11:50 AM (+/0+/)

241 Note the "Re-arm Europe" meme that Eugyppius commented on:
https://tinyurl.com/25y5368w

He thought that was a joke. But apparently it's real.

BTW, if you don't know what that's a reference to, don't look it up. You don't want to know.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 07, 2025 11:36 AM (w6EFb)

Strangely accurate.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 07, 2025 11:50 AM (i24o9)

242 Um, digital ID is essentially a license to copy/paste votes. Paper or GTFO.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 07, 2025 11:46 AM (mlg/3)

Each scan has a unique reference ID. Can’t allocate more than 1 ballot per piece if ID.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 07, 2025 11:50 AM (DNoz0)

243 > 232 Mocking aside David Hogg is one weird looking bugger--almost birth defect weird.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at March 07, 2025 11:49 AM

He's what's generically known in the medical community as an "FLK" -- Funny-Looking Kid.

Posted by: Vile Hitler! at March 07, 2025 11:51 AM (W5ArC)

244 I've read that Chiang Kai-Shek's son was even serving with the German army. Got called home by his father when it invaded Poland.

The Chinese army had German military advisors.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 07, 2025 11:51 AM (xTIDn)

245 I'm disappointed to see what looks like my Giorgia in that picture.

Posted by: eleven at March 07, 2025 11:51 AM (0HaGk)

246 >>> 231
==
It's not centralized at the highest level, but the material stuff is centralized in local party organizations and unions, largely in cities. The local Democrats have to get paid off by the national org for their work.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at March 07, 2025 11:49 AM (eYoxG)

Paid off by our tax dollars via USAID or one of several other funnels, probably.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 07, 2025 11:51 AM (Vqx30)

247 Trump steps up and says,
"Fine, we'll pick up where we left off, go back to how it was."
"For Greenland."
Posted by: OldManMike at March 07, 2025 11:44 AM (vuDVZ)

I’m going to be pissed if we keep defending Muslim Europe. It’s not in our interests. Europeans are assholes.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 07, 2025 11:51 AM (l3YAf)

248 Scan my dick, fascist.
Posted by: weft cut-loop

Image needs to be enlarged. Camera can't scan that small.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 07, 2025 11:51 AM (A7Jfs)

249 Whatever happened to Liza Minelli?

I haven't thought of her in ages.
Posted by: eleven at March 07, 2025

***
I think she turned up in a couple of episodes of Arrested Development? But that too was a while ago.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 07, 2025 11:52 AM (J2vNu)

250
And a little Hogg shall lead them.

Posted by: Needs a scriptural reference at March 07, 2025 11:52 AM (DobEs)

251 Benny Johnson says Trump was supposed to be live at 11:00am so he's following the Forbes (or equivalent) stream.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at March 07, 2025 11:53 AM (MDBTH)

252 Hitler's willingness to engage in aggressive and reckless plays(against the advice of basically everyone) is what lead to Nazi Germany's initial successes however.

Adolph's plan against Russia was better than his generals, ie, an all out effort on the south to take Ukraine and Crimea, netting the food and oil that Germany lacked and denying it to Russia. North and Central should have been holding actions once the snows fell.

Early success foiled the plan.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Sunday is Vic's Birthday at March 07, 2025 11:53 AM (jc0TO)

253 The German Imperial government in control of Europe would of course have been better than the Nazis, but not by a whole lot. No genocide (at least not of the Jews), but, still, they were a nasty lot.

And they would've reacted to any resistance like they did to the Hereros in SW Africa.

The only possible positive aspect of a German victory in WWI would've been taking out the Bolsheviks in Russia. But they probably would not have been able to take them out entirely and probably would have gotten bogged down in a quagmire there.
Posted by: Bulg
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Pretty canny observation.

Posted by: whig at March 07, 2025 11:53 AM (ctrM5)

254 Whatever happened to Liza Minelli?

I haven't thought of her in ages.
Posted by: eleven at March 07, 2025

Always thought she was one ugly dame. Inherited her father's looks rather than her mother's.

Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 11:54 AM (77rzZ)

255 Note the "Re-arm Europe" meme that Eugyppius commented on:
https://tinyurl.com/25y5368w

He thought that was a joke. But apparently it's real.

BTW, if you don't know what that's a reference to, don't look it up. You don't want to know.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 07, 2025 11:36 AM (w6EFb)

I'm ashamed that I get the reference. But it seems to be the preferred stance of European leaders re Islam.

Posted by: ScaryMary at March 07, 2025 11:54 AM (i/l90)

256 BJ is playing the clip of Trump from yesterday ... Trump says assassination report is due next week.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at March 07, 2025 11:54 AM (MDBTH)

257 Mocking aside David Hogg is one weird looking bugger--almost birth defect weird.
Posted by: Northernlurker

The male-ish form of Greta.
Posted by: Grump928(C)

Those two remind me of the childish versions of Lonesome Rhodes.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 07, 2025 11:55 AM (cYBz/)

258 As long as I'm riffing, I don't think voter fraud is all that centralized. I don't think there's some Dr Evil type directing all of it, but perhaps individual counties/precincts/etc doing their things more or less independently. Having it decentralized means rooting it all out is very difficult.

Which is probably the idea.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at March 07, 2025 11:45 AM (ky8PV)
***

I believe that in the state of Washington it is very centralized and controlled. A few years ago I overheard a conversation that I wasn't supposed to hear. When asked about the votes, a former big city mayor just smiled and said, "Don't worry, we will find the votes." A few weeks later the governor's race was decided after three recounts in which they continued to find new ballots.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 07, 2025 11:55 AM (W/lyH)

259 250
And a little Hogg shall lead them.
Posted by: Needs a scriptural reference
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And they were smited at the next election.

Posted by: whig at March 07, 2025 11:55 AM (ctrM5)

260 >> Hey, the age of consent in Germany is 14.

*sweating* Does that apply to boys, as well?

Posted by: Lindsey Graham at March 07, 2025 11:56 AM (l3YAf)

261 Benny has what he says is Trump live now. Forbes still nothing.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at March 07, 2025 11:56 AM (MDBTH)

262 Each scan has a unique reference ID. Can’t allocate more than 1 ballot per piece if ID.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 07, 2025 11:50 AM (DNoz0)

Like Social Security Numbers? Good idea.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2025 11:56 AM (D7oie)

263 245 I'm disappointed to see what looks like my Giorgia in that picture.

Posted by: eleven at March 07, 2025 11:51 AM (0HaGk)

It's probably just a group shot that they took at some conference. Like when we all sat for a yearly school picture, didn't mean we liked every single pyrsyn in the portrait.

Anyway, Giorgia came out publicly and stated no Italians would be sent to Ukraine to help Zelensky.

Posted by: kallisto at March 07, 2025 11:56 AM (dCxaZ)

264 Buck hits a homer last night and this morning. A double hitter.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 07, 2025 11:57 AM (E7bCG)

265 Recall early on, when our “leaders” were shoveling pallets of cash and munitions at the Ukraine willy nilly, anybody who questioned the wisdom in any manner, even the most anodyne statements was met with “We’ll start a draft and send your kids to fight”.

Anybody can virtue signal. Or post an emoji flag.

How about a war bond drive? When was the last war they tried that? We were constantly hectored how important (insert whatever war going back 60 years here) by congress.

So why haven’t they declared war? Not since … checks …

1941

Posted by: Common Tater at March 07, 2025 11:57 AM (17WQZ)

266 Anyway, Giorgia came out publicly and stated no Italians would be sent to Ukraine to help Zelensky.
Posted by: kallisto at March 07, 2025 11:56 AM (dCxaZ)

Last time the Italian troops were in Russia, it was bad.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2025 11:57 AM (D7oie)

267 Never forget that when CHAZ became responsible for security of its own area they immediately started shooting black children.

Posted by: BrianH at March 07, 2025 11:58 AM (aKFQr)

268 Trump (on BJ) talking about manufacturing job gains.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at March 07, 2025 11:58 AM (MDBTH)

269 Like Kathleen Kennedy saying "I show you who is just a secretary."

Posted by: Darth Randall at March 07, 2025 11:59 AM (f1kZG)

270 *sweating* Does that apply to boys, as well?

ahh yes my friend, of course

Posted by: Achmed the immigrant at March 07, 2025 11:59 AM (jGJov)

271 Pretty canny observation.
Posted by: whig

Thank you. That means a lot coming from you.

Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 12:00 PM (77rzZ)

272 Trump (on BJ) talking about manufacturing job gains.
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at March 07, 2025 11:58 AM (MDBTH)

That's what the last admin did. They manufactured job gains.

Posted by: ... at March 07, 2025 12:00 PM (HfWSf)

273 258 As long as I'm riffing, I don't think voter fraud is all that centralized. I
Posted by: WitchDoktor at March 07, 2025 11:45 AM (ky8PV)
***

I believe that in the state of Washington it is very centralized and controlled. A few years ago I overheard a conversation that I wasn't supposed to hear. When asked about the votes, a former big city mayor just smiled and said, "Don't worry, we will find the votes." A few weeks later the governor's race was decided after three recounts in which they continued to find new ballots.
Posted by: Diogenes
=======
The same footsoldiers that run the eternal vote registration programs for the Dems turn around and become vote harvesters, etc. and poll workers when the elections come around. The operation is decentralized to the local operatives to 'get x votes by any means possible' and that is why they get live feeds on who is and who is not voting at the centralized level using early voting.

Washington state is a cheat by mail state and probably has voter fraud centralized there. Other places, it is primarily an urban tactic by specific counties reporting to state and national Dems.

Posted by: whig at March 07, 2025 12:00 PM (ctrM5)

274 >>> 268 Trump (on BJ) talking about manufacturing job gains.
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at March 07, 2025 11:58 AM (MDBTH)

'jobs gained in manufacturing'

BJ who???

Posted by: Phrasing!!! at March 07, 2025 12:00 PM (Vqx30)

275 Here's one for youl, ace. Mickey Rooney stars as Vlodomyr Zelenskyy in "Hey kids, let's put on a show"

The neighborhood kids are perfect as the European leaders in their youthful optimistic enthusiasm. They even have a group scene exactly like the picture at the top of the post.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRZ5400UKSc

Posted by: muldoon at March 07, 2025 12:00 PM (/iMjX)

276 Has it gone well anytime the Italian army has been anywhere since the Roman Empire?

Posted by: Button-Pushing-Monkey at March 07, 2025 12:01 PM (EcHpA)

277 Western Europe could be, with minimal difficulty, conquered by the National Guard of any one American state

.. if you completely discount the nuclear weapons of Britain and France, which given the unlikelihood they would nuclear their own soil, is negligible.

Posted by: SMOD at March 07, 2025 12:01 PM (RHGPo)

278 Three Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) supervisors involved with the scandal in which aid workers were advised to bypass homes with Trump signs in the aftermath of Hurricane Milton have been fired. That makes four in total, given their walking papers over the incident. The news appears to contradict former FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell, who told members of the House Oversight Committee that the shocking directive involved a lone employee. The New York Post reports that Cameron Hamilton, the agency's current acting administrator, sent a letter to Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) advising her of the results of an “exhaustive investigation”

Posted by: SMOD at March 07, 2025 12:02 PM (RHGPo)

279 Has it gone well anytime the Italian army has been anywhere since the Roman Empire?
Posted by: Button-Pushing-Monkey

Libya, 1911.

Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 12:02 PM (77rzZ)

280 Trump press conference coming up.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 07, 2025 12:02 PM (U0o6X)

281 Last time the Italian troops were in Russia, it was bad.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2025 11:57 AM (D7oie)

That can be said of all armies that have invaded Russia.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at March 07, 2025 12:03 PM (g8Ew8)

282 Whatever happened to Liza Minelli?

I haven't thought of her in ages.

--

I believe she has some significant health problems now. I saw her in concert about 10 years ago. She was great. Oh, and I lurve the movie, Arthur.

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 07, 2025 12:03 PM (qBdHI)

283
I believe she has some significant health problems now. I saw her in concert about 10 years ago. She was great. Oh, and I lurve the movie, Arthur.
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 07, 2025 12:03 PM (qBdHI)

The original is one of my favorites

Posted by: It's me donna at March 07, 2025 12:04 PM (VE6XX)

284 How about a war bond drive? When was the last war they tried that? We were constantly hectored how important (insert whatever war going back 60 years here) by congress.

So why haven’t they declared war? Not since … checks …

1941
Posted by: Common Tater

When I was in DC decades ago, that was always a question about the lack of declarations by the junior Congress critters. They were instructed why no war declarations sotte voche since 1941 by senior members.

That is because both WWI and WWII left so many declaration of war triggers to new statutory powers by the president that Congress would essentially become an afterthought. Wilson, for example, nationalized the entire railroad industry using his powers.

Posted by: whig at March 07, 2025 12:04 PM (ctrM5)

285 Germany pledged to defend Ukraine. How do German troops get to Ukraine? Through - wait for - it - Poland.

So German soldiers marching through Poland on their way to fight Russians.

I think I’ve seen this movie before.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
......

They should wait until the middle of winter.

Posted by: wth at March 07, 2025 12:04 PM (v0R5T)

286 That makes four in total, given their walking papers over the incident. The news appears to contradict former FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell, who told members of the House Oversight Committee that the shocking directive involved a lone employee. The New York Post reports that Cameron Hamilton, the agency's current acting administrator, sent a letter to Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) advising her of the results of an “exhaustive investigation”
Posted by: SMOD at March 07, 2025 12:02 PM (RHGPo)

Well, problem solved then. I'm sure the rest of FEMA is made up of non political red blooded Americans.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 07, 2025 12:04 PM (uCjyK)

287 Europe kicking us out? Great.
The Dem leadership wants us to be more like Europe. Let's deport them to Europe, shall we?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 07, 2025 12:05 PM (E7bCG)

288 Has it gone well anytime the Italian army has been anywhere

Well they did leave the Ethiopians good Italian cooks.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle for festive little hats at March 07, 2025 12:05 PM (ZGwhj)

289 Germany pledged to defend Ukraine. How do German troops get to Ukraine? Through - wait for - it - Poland.

===

**FACE PALM

Posted by: runner at March 07, 2025 12:05 PM (g47mK)

290 Well, problem solved then. I'm sure the rest of FEMA is made up of non political red blooded Americans.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 07, 2025 12:04 PM

Hammond Eggers FTW!

Posted by: Grump928(C) Sunday is Vic's Birthday at March 07, 2025 12:05 PM (jc0TO)

291 >> Three Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) supervisors involved with the scandal in which aid workers were advised to bypass homes with Trump signs in the aftermath of Hurricane Milton have been fired. That makes four in total, given their walking papers over the incident.

Fire the employees who followed the orders, too.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 07, 2025 12:06 PM (l3YAf)

292 The original is one of my favorites

--

Mine too! So funny. Mr. Black still throws out lines from it often.

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 07, 2025 12:06 PM (qBdHI)

293 They were instructed why no war declarations sotte voche since 1941 by senior members.

That is because both WWI and WWII left so many declaration of war triggers to new statutory powers by the president that Congress would essentially become an afterthought. Wilson, for example, nationalized the entire railroad industry using his powers.
Posted by: whig at March 07, 2025 12:04 PM (ctrM5)

Makes sense. I think FDR, especially, scared a lot of people in DC with how he was able to consolidate his power almost completely.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 07, 2025 12:06 PM (uCjyK)

294 207
‘ Trump steps up and says,
"Fine, we'll pick up where we left off, go back to how it was."
"For Greenland."’

That’s a great question, Old Mike.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 07, 2025 12:06 PM (jbnUc)

295 Mine too! So funny. Mr. Black still throws out lines from it often.
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 07, 2025 12:06 PM (qBdHI)

Don't you just hate Perry's wife ...

Posted by: It's me donna at March 07, 2025 12:07 PM (VE6XX)

296 Ukrainian guy in the US, been here "about three years", thinks that the US should continue funding Ukraine AND send troops.

https://youtu.be/jg3tCOdLW7Q

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 07, 2025 12:07 PM (ExV1e)

297 Oh, and I lurve the movie, Arthur.
Posted by: Lady in Black
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I can see why some people like it as a romance. I dislike drunks in movies and entitled drunks even more as a trope. So it was not very romantic to me.

FWIW, I also found Dean Martin's drunk act jarring in his roasts and tv shows. Knowing a few real alcoholics IRL and how they behave kinda kills the charm of it for me.

Posted by: whig at March 07, 2025 12:07 PM (ctrM5)

298 Each scan has a unique reference ID. Can’t allocate more than 1 ballot per piece if ID.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

Ok, I get it. Didn't realize it was jokey mcjoke time. M'bad.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 07, 2025 12:07 PM (mlg/3)

299 Trump has invited white South Africans who are in danger to come to the United States.

He's also cut off all funding to the communist thugocracy that's running that benighted land.

Posted by: Vile Hitler! at March 07, 2025 12:08 PM (W5ArC)

300 1941

Gene Hackman was great in that.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle for festive little hats at March 07, 2025 12:08 PM (ZGwhj)

301 We must take responsibility! If not us, then who? We are Ukraine's only hope to get American financing, weaponry, and personnel to defend Ukraine!

Posted by: Europe at March 07, 2025 12:09 PM (KtPtl)

302 296 Ukrainian guy in the US, been here "about three years", thinks that the US should continue funding Ukraine AND send troops.

https://youtu.be/jg3tCOdLW7Q
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 07, 2025 12:07 PM (ExV1e)

Yeah. He looks military aged, why is he in New York and not in Ukraine fighting?

Or he just wants Americans to go over there to die?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 07, 2025 12:09 PM (uCjyK)

303 285 Germany pledged to defend Ukraine. How do German troops get to Ukraine? Through - wait for - it - Poland.
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The German plan is beer. The logistics is to share beer with the Poles as they drive through then drink with the Russians 'till they forget about fighting.

The question is; Can the Germans out drink the Russian?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 07, 2025 12:09 PM (E7bCG)

304 Last time the Italian troops were in Russia, it was bad.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2025 11:57 AM (D7oie)

My family is well aware. My dad's older brother fell victim to Mussolini's assholery and absolute disregard for his own people.
My uncle was sent into battle with 19c armaments

Posted by: kallisto at March 07, 2025 12:09 PM (dCxaZ)

305 BJ who???

Posted by: Phrasing!!! at March 07, 2025 12:00 PM (Vqx30)

223 https://www.youtube.com/live/nzatd7YsPN0

Benny Johnson ... Trump on tariffs right now.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at March 07, 2025 12:10 PM (MDBTH)

306 "Laugh at European Leaders" Each had better become a whole lot more mindful of how their, "Let them eat cake," attitudes will play out with each of their nation's citizens in the long run.

I think David Hogg is going to be overrun by the even more unbalanced individuals on the DNC & will, again, prove to be politically worthless. (How he reminds me of Beto. Ugh.)

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at March 07, 2025 12:10 PM (NFX2v)

307 No love for Mussolini in my house.

The only Italians that keep a soft spot in their hearts for il duce are the remnants of old school aristocracy and elites

Posted by: kallisto at March 07, 2025 12:10 PM (dCxaZ)

308 Don't you just hate Perry's wife ...

--

LOL! "Have you always been a stand up comic?"

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 07, 2025 12:10 PM (qBdHI)

309 Big Ukrainian community SW of me. Don't think any of their young men have returned to the motherland to fight

Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 07, 2025 12:10 PM (2Km7O)

310 > The question is; Can the Germans out drink the Russian?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 07, 2025 12:09 PM (E7bCG)

From personal experience: never, ever, ever attempt to outdrink Russians.

Ever.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 07, 2025 12:11 PM (W5ArC)

311 Putin's observation on EU's machinations.

https://tinyurl.com/2varcjzp

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 07, 2025 12:11 PM (E7bCG)

312 Or alternatively... Do the Germans know that alcohol poisoning is a thing everywhere except Russia?

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at March 07, 2025 12:11 PM (4XwPj)

313 Last time the Italian troops were in Russia, it was bad.
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Yep.

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 07, 2025 12:11 PM (pLaQB)

314 Was Hogg's pillow the one that came with a customizable moldable bite guard?

Posted by: muldoon at March 07, 2025 12:12 PM (/iMjX)

315 Just flipped to Canafisn news.

All Trump, All Tarriffs, All the Time!

Posted by: Stateless...48% - mental state clawing up from 10% at March 07, 2025 12:12 PM (jvJvP)

316 No love for Mussolini in my house.

The only Italians that keep a soft spot in their hearts for il duce are the remnants of old school aristocracy and elites
Posted by: kallisto at March 07, 2025 12:10 PM (dCxaZ)

But....but....he got the trains to run on time.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at March 07, 2025 12:12 PM (g8Ew8)

317 https://www.youtube.com/live/ex10YfULR4w

White House Live Stream (same as Benny J). Forbes still waiting.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at March 07, 2025 12:13 PM (MDBTH)

318 From above, 3) ANTIFA declaring its Seattle “CHAZ” encampment as being a sovereign country, and then launching its agriculture program by laying down some cardboard, spreading some dirt on it, and then throwing some vegetable seeds on it.

Seen it before. Stolen idea from Philadelphia? Will it also become a NP supported by the USDA?

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at March 07, 2025 12:13 PM (NFX2v)

319 Trump axes $400 million in grants to Columbia University due to rampant antisemitism.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 07, 2025 12:13 PM (W5ArC)

320 Makes sense. I think FDR, especially, scared a lot of people in DC with how he was able to consolidate his power almost completely.
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One example of how petty FDR was is how he punished the chair of Montgomery Wards store who was a well known opponent of FDR politically. Ward had a new hq and FDR suddenly demanded it for a military hq after that chairman fought off labor union and government attempts to coerce a labor settlement. Picture shows the chairman of Montgomery Ward literally sitting in a chair being carried out of the building by two soldiers.

https://tinyurl.com/4mt73pv9 Link goes to AHC Channel story and picture.

There is a reason that Harry Truman thought he had to power to seize the Steel Industry and run it. Ironically, the Steel Mill lawyer at Scotus hearing was Wilson's Solicitor General who defended Wilson's seizure of the railroad industry in WWI.

Posted by: whig at March 07, 2025 12:13 PM (ctrM5)

321 Listening to PDT talk is amazing.

Posted by: eleven at March 07, 2025 12:14 PM (0HaGk)

322 From personal experience: never, ever, ever attempt to outdrink Russians.

Ever.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 07, 2025 12:11 PM (W5ArC)

......or Australians.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at March 07, 2025 12:14 PM (g8Ew8)

323 Whatever happened to Liza Minelli?

I haven't thought of her in ages.

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I believe she has some significant health problems now. I saw her in concert about 10 years ago. She was great. Oh, and I lurve the movie, Arthur.
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 07, 2025 12:03 PM

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Yeah, she (or her PR) still post on social media but she hasn't appeared in public in a while.

Posted by: Bigsmith at March 07, 2025 12:14 PM (1Au9i)

324 You can reliably trigger a communist by pointing out that both the Fascists and the Nazis were socialists.

They're all just basically rival sects of the same evil cult religion.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 07, 2025 12:15 PM (W5ArC)

325 New thread up:

SecState Rubio's GTFOOH plan

Posted by: kallisto at March 07, 2025 12:15 PM (dCxaZ)

326 “This War Is Lost” by Harry Reid

Can Henry Fonda’s alleged daughter still be brought up on charges for aiding and abetting the enemy in time of war? Would it have been different with a formal declaration of war? Legally speaking, I think so. She hasn’t paid the price. Viet Nam era veterans, possibly the finest trained and equipped military ever. America needs closure. Installing her in Leavenworth would help, a little bit.

Posted by: Common Tater at March 07, 2025 12:15 PM (fij89)

327 Trump axes $400 million in grants to Columbia University due to rampant antisemitism.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

Yes, Columbia, you have free speech rights. But you have them on YOUR dime.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 07, 2025 12:15 PM (A7Jfs)

328 299 Trump has invited white South Africans who are in danger to come to the United States.
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We can make the farmers a deal on Chinese owned land.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 07, 2025 12:20 PM (E7bCG)

329 She's Henry's daughter alright. Henry wasn't as mouthy as she but he was a lefty all the way.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 07, 2025 12:22 PM (E7bCG)

330 From personal experience: never, ever, ever attempt to outdrink Russians.

Ever.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 07, 2025 12:11 PM (W5ArC)

......or Australians.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons
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Stayed with some guys in Ulladulla that made their own beer. Bottom quarter of each bottle had sediment.
"Don't drink the sediment" I said after puking my guts out.

Posted by: wth at March 07, 2025 12:23 PM (v0R5T)

331 On-point rant, Buckster!

I was stationed in Germany('88-'90) and even then it was wussified on our teats. My German friends basically called Americans stupid while I fixed their cars for them(they couldn't). Thankfully my girlfriend and her family were/are very grateful for America.

Her dad had a picture on their wall of his grandfather in his Wehrmacht uniform from War 2; they were very embarrassed over the war, etc.

Posted by: Danimal28 at March 07, 2025 12:33 PM (1E4GV)

332 >>>to publicly renege on the agreement that was being formalized

Good one, Buck.

Posted by: m at March 07, 2025 01:24 PM (CQE5S)

333 Then Arthur had kids, who had kids. His grandchildren grew up and because their trust funds invested in Google, Apple, Bitcoin, Tesla, and NVidia the grandchildren were fabulously wealthy. However, all the grandchildren felt ashamed of their wealth and some protested for Hamas and against the system that made them wealthy.

Posted by: wferrin at March 07, 2025 01:37 PM (lCdHU)

334 Nations disappear not because they are conquered but because they commit suicide.

Posted by: TJ Jackson at March 07, 2025 01:47 PM (bXvrr)

335 European countries' defense forces are to a real army what a backyard garden is to a farm.

They are prestige hobbies meant to allow the possessor to preen about their selflessness and willingness to sacrifice to promote local sourcing while getting their actual vegetables elsewhere.

Posted by: Thatch at March 07, 2025 01:48 PM (BJsR3)

336 Europe hasn't been able to field an army in decades, which is why Trump was demanding they actually meet their 2% GDP spending target back in 2016. One could make the argument that if Russia was neutered via a war with Ukraine then they would never have to meet any defense spending target.

Was Biden's fecklessness before February 2022 deliberately an enticement to draw Putin into Ukraine in order to bleed them dry? Was the incompetent withdrawal from Afghanistan 6 months prior the setup to get Putin to believe Biden would just let them walk in?

Maybe I'm giving them too much credit for brains? Then again Christopher Steele, a guy from MI6 did provide a made up dossier on Trump to frame him.

Something to think about... Duplicity and greed can appear as Incompetence and fecklessness. Is there a reason European Socialists always seem to prefer Democrats in power? Fellow travelers

Posted by: dscott8186 at March 07, 2025 03:57 PM (v6A5c)

337 So far Hogg's Pillows are not selling as he wanted then this Nit-Wit Claims we Have no right to Own a Gun shows Hogg's IQ is lower then you could imagine

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at March 07, 2025 04:45 PM (wGqjj)

338 83

I wrote a novel "Alternate Alternities" with that scenario in mind. The hero was able to convince Wilson to stay out of WW1. One of the major benefits was that the Spanish Flu killed way less people than in our timeline.

Posted by: Eric2 at March 07, 2025 09:00 PM (q7Vou)

339 Regarding Hogg's pillow company. I hope they are tasty for his pillow biting supporters.

Posted by: Kaiju66 at March 08, 2025 08:19 AM (/BWLr)

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