Overnight Open Thread - 03/07/2025<br><i>[Roger Ball]</i>

Overnight Open Thread - 03/07/2025
[Roger Ball]

“ROGER BALL, HORDE. LOOKIN’ GOOD. KEEP IT COMIN’”

It’s been a little while, so this will be aviation heavy. Keep WeirdDave in your thoughts; he’ll be back soon. If you are not ‘aviation oriented”, just leave some snarky comments and await Pixy’s excellent daily post. Even if you are an aviation geek, consider this a buffet: just choose what looks tasty.

That picture is the “IN CLOSE” position on approach to CV(N)-65, the USS Enterprise. We called her “Big E” and, as our first nuke carrier, she had some unique qualities. One was that island which was almost as big as a parking garage. It was built to accommodate the first phased array radar system. However, with the ship making its own wind, the turbulence (burble) coming off that island required aggressive anticipation to keep from taxiing to the first wire, which would be an automatic “NO GRADE”.
The BIG E was also unique in that she had eight A2W nuclear reactors, unlike the Nimitz class and above having only two A4Ws or A1Bs. Of course, the BIG E was decommissioned in 2017 and is berthed at the Newport News Shipyard, awaiting final scrapping.

For the “naval curious” HORDE (note…not navel curious—that’s a different thread), if you’ve wondered about “Roger Ball”, wonder no more! The naval aviation magazine APPROACH, from February 1975, supplied a somewhat humorous definition.

Heh, I noticed that page is from a 1975 “Approach” magazine. That was the year I went to Pensacola in July-August to start officer candidate school (as an AVROC I, if anyone remembers that program). I didn’t see that magazine at the time, though. I was a little busy doing PT and getting yelled at by D.I.s. Good times!

Note: LSO’s have also been affectionately known as “Paddles” (see picture) and not so affectionately as “Blind Lying C^cksuckers” (picture not provided). So.

LSO’s are like air traffic controllers for the final approach to the ship. They are also the SMEs and instructors for all things about carrier operations. Civilian and military air traffic controllers usually don’t have to worry about the instructor duties. Ever wondered what the process is to become an air traffic controller?

Okay, to the point. What does it really take to become a controller? It most certainly isn’t 15 hours until you solo, but more along the lines of “Zero to ATP” in two to four years… Just remember, ATC isn’t for everyone. Just because people believe it’s one of the most stressful jobs, only means they limit themselves before they plug in.

There are plenty of recent examples of good and bad piloting and controlling. One might think the sky is falling, oops, bad analogy…that’s things are suddenly going wrong. But, errors have happened ever since Orville and Wilbur took to the air. The difference now is that there are cameras almost everywhere and everyone with a phone (i.e. everyone) is a Cecil B DeMille. With a plethora of audio and video recordings, minute dissection of every event is now common. All this went on before now. We just didn’t know about it until it was a catastrophe.
Here’s an example of poor air traffic control at Westchester, New York. If you are not familiar with KHPN, it is the business jet mecca on the east side of the Hudson, with Teterboro holding that title on the west side of the Hudson. There are hundreds of millions of dollars of private business jets based at each airport. While I know y’all have seen the close call at Midway, it’s just as bad for the controller when the pilot asks for a phone number.
LAHSO (Land and hold short.). This could have been a disaster had the pilots not been situationally aware. They were lucky this time. The controller, not so much.

I think this is the first time I heard this from a controller(at 20 seconds):

I’m pretty sure you will not find sh^t in the PILOT-CONTROLLER GLOSSARY.

The military has had their issues too. The recent Hornet shootdown by the USS Gettysburg (CG-64) is a big deal with implications far beyond the loss of a Super Hornet. Here’s a recent video from Ward MOOCH Carroll (CAPT, USN (Ret)). Now MOOCH and I are not of the same political persuasion, if you get my drift, but he does a good job with his channel (664,000 subscribers). You may think this interview is “too much inside baseball”, but if you have any interest in the event you should give it a look-see.

There were several striking revelations in the discussion. One was the state of readiness and proficiency of the ship, as in “not great”. Two, the known equipment and communications deficiencies that the crew had to deal with. And three, the Red Sea is a high threat environment where the ship is basically on alert 24-7, so exhaustion is a factor. Take a look.

Speaking of ‘bad”, what’s up with Space X?

SpaceX’s Starship spiraled out of control while in space during a test flight Thursday, marking the second launch in a row that the vehicle has run into a fatal problem on its way to orbit… The [FAA] agency told TechCrunch that it is requiring SpaceX to perform what’s known as a mishap investigation into the failure.

Investigation: good plan.

It’s not all bad news. Overland commercial supersonic travel got a little closer on January 29. Obviously, an old story so I will invoke the “buffet” analogy. If you have already seen it, skip off to the dessert bar.

American aircraft company Boom Supersonic proved their name by successfully flying their civilian jet, the XB-1, faster than the speed of sound over the Mojave Desert Tuesday…The test flight out of the Mojave Air & Space Port took about 34 minutes and reached 35,290 feet in altitude, with the XB-1 reaching a max speed of Mach 1.122, about 750 mph, Boom said in a release.

Good effort, but the aviation geeks among us will remember that the Concorde carried 100 people at 2.04 Mach. Not to be a shimmy damper, but BOOM’s proposed OVERTURE will [may-it hasn’t been built yet] carry 80 people at 1.7 MACH. They have secured advanced orders from American, United and Japan Airlines so there may be a future. Apparently, Delta is taking a different approach.

Amelia DeLuca, Delta’s Chief Sustainability Officer: “While Delta is focused on doing what we can today to address our carbon footprint, it’s critical we also work with a variety of partners to advance revolutionary technologies, like JetZero’s blended-wing-body aircraft, to solve for a significant portion of future aviation emissions.”

Umm…It’s not unattractive. I guess. I don’t know about all those middle seats, though.

Let’s take a short trip over to the desert bar. Now this is admittedly non-aviation but seems relevant to our “world situation”. It might even evoke a WTF?: Ukraine’s soldiers are losing arms and legs – then returning to war

Somehow, Monty Python never gets old:

I recently watched IKE, with Tom Selleck. I think it was well done, although many would not like it as a "war" movie. There’s no shooting or booming. It's about the planning for Operation OVERLORD, which remains the largest amphibious landing in history (at least until the CHICOMs take Taiwan. ed.). You would have to have some knowledge of history to fully appreciate the movie.

In a scene that could easily take place today between President Trump and SECDEF, Ike (Selleck) and Omar Bradley (James Remar) are watching the 1944 movie adaptation of Shakespeare�s HENRY V.

At one point, Remar leans over to Selleck and says: "Do you ever get the feeling these Europeans have been at this War thing for a hell of a long time?"
Selleck replies: "Too long. It's almost as if they like it."
Hmmm…

If we have learned nothing from Ukraine, we can know for sure that drone warfare has been redefined for us. And this scene from “Angel has Fallen” has always made me…uh…uncomfortable:

You?

Here’s an idea for the drone wars: but this could cause some concern amongst the population. Well, maybe do some laser eyes or something.

And if that’s not creepy enough for you, how about this diminutive bugger?

Yikes.

Looks like the Chinese have the whole drone thing well in hand. They even have �subtitle� drones.

Watch this incredible display of unmanned aerial drones (UAVs) light up the night sky in Shenzhen, China. All of the drones were programmed and controlled by a single laptop during the magnificent performance.

Double yikes.

Time to pack it in, HORDE. Say good night and farewell to the awesome JRM Mars: , the last of the giant Martin JRM MARS aircraft flew to Arizona to be placed in the PIMA Air Museum.

KEEP THE BLUE SIDE UP!
ROGER, OUT.

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Comments

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Posted by: JohnFNotKerry at March 07, 2025 09:59 PM (Ze08y)

2 Everything is in order. Carry on.

Posted by: mindful webworker - by gum at March 07, 2025 09:59 PM (+QBnl)

3 Uno!

Posted by: Admiral Spinebender at March 07, 2025 09:59 PM (hftn9)

4 YAY ONT!!! Now for the content!

Posted by: JohnFNotKerry at March 07, 2025 09:59 PM (Ze08y)

5 Meow

Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at March 07, 2025 10:00 PM (w3u3d)

6 Ding!

Posted by: javems at March 07, 2025 10:00 PM (8I4hW)

7
1?
John, you may be first, but you're not best.
😁

Posted by: mindful webworker - by gar at March 07, 2025 10:00 PM (+QBnl)

8 Evening, all

Posted by: caf at March 07, 2025 10:01 PM (/+mVZ)

9 I'm still thinking about Kristi Noem. Yowza!

Posted by: JohnFNotKerry at March 07, 2025 10:01 PM (Ze08y)

10 Mindful Webworker: Cope harder

Posted by: JohnFNotKerry at March 07, 2025 10:02 PM (Ze08y)

11 I hope all you other denizens of the Horde are doing well.

Posted by: JohnFNotKerry at March 07, 2025 10:03 PM (Ze08y)

12 Sara Rose 🇺🇸🌹
@saras76
6h
I deleted my post about Donald Trump Jr. saying he’s considering running for President in 2028, because it was a false report by Mediate.

When responding to the Mediate article stating he was running, DTJ responded:

“Are you fucking retarded?”

🤣🤣
Mar 7, 2025 · 8:00 PM UTC

Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2025 10:04 PM (D7oie)

13 Homeland Security Warnings from Kristi Noem, both foreign and domestic:

https://tinyurl.com/bddmsxvn

https://tinyurl.com/2zk5emfe

Posted by: ScaryMary at March 07, 2025 10:06 PM (i/l90)

14 Eh I don’t give a shit if my plane is ugly pr beautiful. Get me there safely and cheaply. All I care about. If it’s some “green” plane whatevs.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 07, 2025 10:07 PM (83El5)

15 When responding to the Mediate article stating he was running, DTJ responded:

“Are you fucking retarded?”

Which isn't, technically, a denial. Just a question that should be asked of everyone in the MSM at least once a day.

Posted by: Oddbob at March 07, 2025 10:07 PM (/y8xj)

16 Good evening morons and thanks roger ball

I was promised air cars.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 07, 2025 10:07 PM (RIvkX)

17 Evenin’, All. So no boobs tonight, eh?

Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 10:09 PM (77rzZ)

18 I can't believe the Rat Brad Marchand was traded from the Bruins to a hated rival. He will always be my Rat.

Posted by: JohnFNotKerry at March 07, 2025 10:10 PM (Ze08y)

19 Evenin’, All. So no boobs tonight, eh?
Posted by: Bulg

It's early.

Posted by: Some Rat at March 07, 2025 10:10 PM (+VovS)

20 Thanks, Roger. As an aviation enthusiast, I always look forward to your contributions here.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 07, 2025 10:10 PM (mH6SG)

21 Good evening Horde. Thanks RB. Always appreciate some good aviation content.

Posted by: TRex at March 07, 2025 10:11 PM (IQ6Gq)

22 I was promised air cars.

You'll settle for non-humiliating treatment at the airport and planes that land upright.

You'll get the TSA and Delta.

Posted by: Oddbob at March 07, 2025 10:11 PM (/y8xj)

23 17 Evenin’, All. So no boobs tonight, eh?
Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 10:09 PM

You'll have to provide or procure your own.

Posted by: JohnFNotKerry at March 07, 2025 10:11 PM (Ze08y)

24 Several generations of Microsoft Flight Simulator ago, they had an NPC LSO to help you land on a carrier. If you followed his directions, guaranteed crash.

Posted by: Beavis and Butthead, journalists at March 07, 2025 10:11 PM (L/fGl)

25 Paw told me he was among the media aboard the first US aircraft carrier to launch jets.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle for festive little hats at March 07, 2025 10:11 PM (vR6Ys)

26 Trump can run in 2028. So can Newsom. Or Usain Bolt.

They can all run, and die tired.

Posted by: Genghis AmeriKahn 2028 at March 07, 2025 10:12 PM (BI5O2)

27 I ain't going up in none of them things. If the Lord meant for us to fly, He'd have given us tickets.

Posted by: Well Grounded at March 07, 2025 10:12 PM (G5+As)

28
Bulg,

The only boob is see is you.

Posted by: four seasons at March 07, 2025 10:13 PM (3ek7K)

29 I had my doubts about Tom Selleck portraying Ike as implausibe, thinking they were so different physically. But the sympathetic portrayal was wonderful.

Posted by: Jim at March 07, 2025 10:13 PM (DcE5z)

30 Evenin’, All. So no boobs tonight, eh?

Oh, boy. Fixation comes to mind.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 07, 2025 10:15 PM (mH6SG)

31 Roger, thanks for the aviation stuff. You managed to work in Navy, commercial, Chinese drones, space, BUT failed to even mention the US Air Force. It seems to me they've done some air work over the years . . . . . .

Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at March 07, 2025 10:15 PM (ha1wR)

32 I love flying. I loathe commercial air travel. Too cattle car for me. Unless I go overseas, it's driving for me.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at March 07, 2025 10:15 PM (HG+uw)

33 here are some great tits
youtu.be/meTo2kdAsGc

Posted by: gKWVE at March 07, 2025 10:15 PM (gKWVE)

34 LSO questions, Roger Ball. What is the push-button gizmo the LSO has and why is it held with a vertically extended arm?

Posted by: Gref at March 07, 2025 10:16 PM (aBgBM)

35 I was hoping that the upside-down landing in Toronto a few weeks ago was a one-off. So far, no copycats.

Posted by: The Wings of Man at March 07, 2025 10:16 PM (G5+As)

36 Never landed nor launched from a carrier.

I have left from some seaside airports on those twin prop "puddle jumpers" with what I assume are frustrated aviators.

Always an "E" ticket ride.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 07, 2025 10:16 PM (Q4IgG)

37 Monty Python, always a laugh. I wish Britain only had a flesh wound, it is not funny and their government has submitted to Islam. That is a shame.

Posted by: ScaryMary at March 07, 2025 10:17 PM (i/l90)

38 Evenin’, All. So no boobs tonight, eh?

Oh, boy. Fixation comes to mind.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 07, 2025 10:15 PM (mH6SG)

{Laying back on therapist's couch}

It all started in early childhood. . . .

Posted by: RickZ at March 07, 2025 10:18 PM (gKDq2)

39 For airhead, the loudest plane. (Maybe 90 seconds) Behold the Thunderscreech!

https://is.gd/2IkEpC

Posted by: Beavis and Butthead, journalists at March 07, 2025 10:18 PM (L/fGl)

40 Noem is moving to end the collective bargaining agreement for TSA employees. Keep popping the popcorn...

Posted by: TRex at March 07, 2025 10:18 PM (IQ6Gq)

41 My fly vs drive line is about 5 hrs of driving. Under 5 the hassle isn’t worth it. And when accounting for getting to and from the airport, wait time at the airport? Etc it’s not too far from 5 hrs. Once that 5hrs hits, it’s fly.

This is if I’m solo. If there’s 2+ people cost may be a factor and makes driving a few more hours worth while.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 07, 2025 10:19 PM (83El5)

42 Hello, Horde! 😊💕

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Plucky Comic Relief, AoS Ladies Brigade - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at March 07, 2025 10:19 PM (SRRAx)

43 41 My fly vs drive line is about 5 hrs of driving. Under 5 the hassle isn’t worth it. And when accounting for getting to and from the airport, wait time at the airport? Etc it’s not too far from 5 hrs. Once that 5hrs hits, it’s fly.

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For me, an ocean is an important factor. I won't drive across one.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 07, 2025 10:20 PM (JkO4W)

44 Susan z"l may her memory be a blessing.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 07, 2025 10:21 PM (RIvkX)

45 Since I can't have first post, I'll settle for worst post.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at March 07, 2025 10:21 PM (lUFok)

46 Teresa in Fort Worth, Plucky Comic Relief, AoS Ladies Brigade - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn.

Teresa! Your presence always brightens my evening. It was wonderful to hear your good news.

Posted by: Some Rat at March 07, 2025 10:22 PM (+VovS)

47 For me, an ocean is an important factor. I won't drive across one.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 07, 2025 10:20 PM (JkO4W)

My hovercraft is full of eels. I won't try that again.

Posted by: ScaryMary at March 07, 2025 10:22 PM (i/l90)

48 45 Since I can't have first post, I'll settle for worst post.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at March 07, 2025 10:21 PM (lUFok)

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Stand aside pilgrim. I'm just warming up.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 07, 2025 10:22 PM (JkO4W)

49 > For me, an ocean is an important factor. I won't drive across one.
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Technically, you'd drive under it.

YMMV

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 07, 2025 10:23 PM (Q4IgG)

50 Last night's ONT was filled with greetings, prayers, and good wishes for Jim SND (and others, but especially Jim). I saw many nics that I hadn't seen in quite a while, some rare visitors and quite a few I'd never seen before.

Whenever I see that kind of commenter crowd, I realize that there's an awful lot of just- or mostly-lurkers reading the comments, and I realize my (all of our) little jokes and jibes and pithy observations have a much, much broader audience than just the obvious participants of the evening.

And that's scary humbling almost to the point of self-muting.

Almost. 🙄

Posted by: mindful webworker - see the man with the stage fright at March 07, 2025 10:25 PM (+QBnl)

51 Delta addresses safety issues.

⁹https://is.gd/oayXo3

Posted by: Beavis and Butthead, journalists at March 07, 2025 10:25 PM (L/fGl)

52 looking for a reason to proceed without an Enterprise

Posted by: yoeman at March 07, 2025 10:26 PM (j1QfB)

53 May the Horde never be out of airspeed, altitude, or ideas!

I am sad to see the big E scrapped. I toured it as a sprog *mumble* years ago when it visited Seattle and I liked it a LOT. And the sailors taught me how to slide down the stair things with my hands on the rails. Useful life skill!

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at March 07, 2025 10:27 PM (WErXV)

54 Posted by: Beavis and Butthead, journalists at March 07, 2025 10:25 PM (L/fGl)

well, so much for my plans for a spiritual and holy Lent

Posted by: gKWVE at March 07, 2025 10:29 PM (gKWVE)

55 Very funny guy: https://tinyurl.com/23pewa5z

Posted by: Mister Ghost at March 07, 2025 10:29 PM (TGPs7)

56 If only the PRC would stop with that communist/totalitarian BS.

Posted by: KungPow at March 07, 2025 10:30 PM (Rw2Dy)

57 41 My fly vs drive line is about 5 hrs of driving. Under 5 the hassle isn’t worth it. And when accounting for getting to and from the airport, wait time at the airport? Etc it’s not too far from 5 hrs. Once that 5hrs hits, it’s fly.

This is if I’m solo. If there’s 2+ people cost may be a factor and makes driving a few more hours worth while.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 07, 2025 10:19 PM (83El5)

MIL lives 110 miles due west of San Antonio, 40 miles from nowhere. It takes roughly 4-5 hours to drive from FTW to SA, then another 2 1/2 hours to get to the town Paul grew up in. That is why we only went to see his family a couple of times a year, and we always drove.

Once the kiddos started arriving, we could plan on adding 30 minutes to an hour PER KID to the trip, because they all needed to be fed, watered, and potty-breaked, and there was always one who didn't need to go when we stopped, but inevitably would get the urge when we were half an hour from the next nearest town.

Now they are starting to have kids of their own.

We just laugh 😂😂😂

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Plucky Comic Relief, AoS Ladies Brigade - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at March 07, 2025 10:30 PM (SRRAx)

58 Good evening, friends! I hope everyone is doing well.

Posted by: Piper at March 07, 2025 10:30 PM (T6NOp)

59 Evenin'

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at March 07, 2025 10:31 PM (ntk8v)

60 Execution by firing squad.

The Greenville News@GreenvilleNews
Three Department of Corrections sharpshooters fired on Sigmon, on death row for the 2001 beating deaths of David and Gladys Larke of Taylors.

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Beat his ex-girlfriend's parents to death.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at March 07, 2025 10:31 PM (L/fGl)

61 And that's scary humbling almost to the point of self-muting.

Almost. 🙄
Posted by: mindful webworker - see the man with the stage fright at March

Our movie adaptation is going to be fire!

Posted by: Piper at March 07, 2025 10:33 PM (T6NOp)

62 Beat his ex-girlfriend's parents to death.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at March 07, 2025 10:31 PM (L/fGl)

Good riddance to bad garbage. Firing squad seems cheaper and better than the needle.

Posted by: ScaryMary at March 07, 2025 10:33 PM (i/l90)

63 Yo Horde, happy Friday

Thanks Roger, always a refreshing change of pace!

Posted by: Zeera , The People Are Coming at March 07, 2025 10:33 PM (L9NLB)

64 60 Execution by firing squad.

The Greenville News@GreenvilleNews
Three Department of Corrections sharpshooters fired on Sigmon, on death row for the 2001 beating deaths of David and Gladys Larke of Taylors.

-
Beat his ex-girlfriend's parents to death.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at March 07, 2025 10:31 PM (L/fGl)

Using a baseball bat. Hit each 9 times.

Posted by: Gref at March 07, 2025 10:34 PM (aBgBM)

65 Good riddance to bad garbage. Firing squad seems cheaper and better than the needle.
Posted by: ScaryMary at March 07, 2025 10:33 PM (i/l90)

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A bonfire would have been even cheaper.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 07, 2025 10:35 PM (dDmld)

66 And that's scary humbling almost to the point of self-muting.

Almost. 🙄
Posted by: mindful webworker - see the man with the stage fright at March 07, 2025 10:25 PM (+QBnl)

Personally, I find it comforting to think of the hapless multitudes who are exposed to the unseemly digital ichor pouring from my phone.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 07, 2025 10:35 PM (BI5O2)

67 I flew with my kids from the get go. They were pros by the time they were 4 or 5 years old. Carry ons, TSA all that shit was no big deal. Then once in the seat, don’t kick seats in front, plenty of things to do, books, coloring stuff, then as they aged iPads. We got comments all the time how well behaved they were on flights.

For driving, portable DVDs. Life savers!! They could sit in the car for hours on end watching movies with no complaining.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 07, 2025 10:36 PM (83El5)

68
Career Army Air Defender here. It would take a chloroform laced cloth, and restraints to get into an airframe in a theater of operations where Patriot is active. I trained the crews to fight the system for Cold War air breathers in West Germany, deployed to Saudi, and spent six months on the same tactical fire point even after disclosing our location with defensive fires.

With Patriot's crews, training, and woke tranny operators... no effing way I'm getting in an airframe. I'd rather play Russian Roulette with a Glock. At least the Glock could hang, jam, or fail to fire. Once Patriot gets missile movement, it's time for the pilot to bail. There is no escape and the PAC-3 has well over 90g in reserve for end game maneuvers and aim point refinement. For closing velocities in excess of 9,000 feet per secomd.

I wrote those requirements, i defended them in front of the JROC, i tested them with live fire. No freaking way would i let myself be subject to that killer.

Posted by: BifBewalski at March 07, 2025 10:36 PM (MsrgL)

69 DEATH to DEI which

D grades
E very thing
I stantantly...Kill this strong and FINAL!!!

F**K YOU OBAMA...go find a hidey hole...(In another Country)

And all of your worthless bitches. We will take them ALL to the Docket!!!
WE are calling the shots now.

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 07, 2025 10:36 PM (25kuG)

70 Evening Horde,
Thank you for the ONT Roger.

I tried the Traffic Controller video, I really couldn't follow it but I heard the S word...

I love the drone displays - even cooler than fireworks. But the military applications are terrifying...

Posted by: Iris at March 07, 2025 10:36 PM (bOJ2I)

71 Execution by firing squad.

The Greenville News@GreenvilleNews
Three Department of Corrections sharpshooters fired on Sigmon, on death row for the 2001 beating deaths of David and Gladys Larke of Taylors.

-
Beat his ex-girlfriend's parents to death.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at March 07, 2025 10:31 PM (L/fGl)

Only three? Normally with a firing squad, there's a blank round for conscience sake. That would mean only two live rounds. Seems kind of iffy to have only two shooters, unless they are right on top of the condemned.

So I don't think they used two shooters. Weird. Three still seems kind of small, unless they're five feet away when firing, i.e., can't miss range.

Posted by: RickZ at March 07, 2025 10:37 PM (gKDq2)

72 A bonfire would have been even cheaper.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 07, 2025 10:35 PM (dDmld)

Or hogs. Lots of hogs in the Carolinas.

Posted by: ScaryMary at March 07, 2025 10:38 PM (i/l90)

73 The Martin Mars takeoff was great. I love seaplanes.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 07, 2025 10:38 PM (LkLld)

74 65 Good riddance to bad garbage. Firing squad seems cheaper and better than the needle.
Posted by: ScaryMary at March 07, 2025 10:33 PM (i/l90)

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A bonfire would have been even cheaper.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 07, 2025 10:35 PM (dDmld)

Impaling spear, cheaper still. All that is needed is on 8-foot long 2x2, sharpened on one end. Oh, you also need to borrow a heavy mallet if you don't own one.

Posted by: Gref at March 07, 2025 10:38 PM (aBgBM)

75 In 1986, I was a navigator in an AF C-130 flying out of McChord AFB, WA for a night flight back home to Little Rock AFB, AR. I don't remember what the mission was but it must have been important - we had an augmented and experienced crew on board, Stan-Eval pilot, Instructor pilot, a co-pilot on his last flight before upgrading to aircraft commander, Stan-Eval flight engineer, a senior FE, etc. We even had a flying crew chief with us. I was the senior nav, and left the routine return flight to the young nav. Just before we signed off from Seattle to Albuquerque Control, our loadmaster called up and asked the Flight Engineer to come back and take a look at something. He gets up, stretches, saunters down to the cargo compartment...and then comes racing up to the cockpit and says, "Pilot, you need to shut down number three NOW!" The pilot directs the co to start the Inflight engine shutdown and after it was completed, he asks, what's the problem? Apparently we had a massive fuel leak with the fuel running right onto the number three engine manifold, risking a fire and explosion. By now we are in the Rockies, now we can't fly above the higher peaks.

Posted by: JML at March 07, 2025 10:38 PM (WyyLm)

76 58 Hey, Piper! How’s my favorite partially Pawnee person this evening?

Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 10:38 PM (77rzZ)

77 I’ve always thought life without parole is a worse punishment than execution. Prison for 50 years ain't fun I would imagine.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 07, 2025 10:39 PM (83El5)

78 It gets worse when the leak grows and starts hitting the number four engine. We decide to fly wing high and make turns only in the direction to keep the wing with the fuel high. ATC starts to vector us to Mountain Home AFB, and I get a premonition - I just know ATC is going to vector us into a mountain.- I tell the young nav, "Keep your head in the scope, I'll take care of everything else; make sure those f@ckers don't fly us into a mountain. He looks at me like I’m crazy and puts his head into the radar scope. A few minutes later, ATC directs a turn and the young nav commands, "Pilot, ignore that heading it flies us into a mountain." The Co tells ATC, “Center, we can’t fly through mountains, can you give us a better heading?” Long pause, “Uh, sorry Mac 123…” You have to trust those bastards, but trust but verify. I'm convinced that if we didn't have an experienced and augmented crew on board, the aircraft would have flown into a mountain or burst into flames, and the accident report would cite a variety of issues, coming down to crew overload and overtaken by events.

Posted by: JML at March 07, 2025 10:39 PM (WyyLm)

79 39 For airhead, the loudest plane. (Maybe 90 seconds) Behold the Thunderscreech!

I read somewhere that the Thunderscreech made 11 test flight and 9 of them ended in declared emergencies including one where the propeller unit wrenched itself off the plane.

Posted by: JB1000 at March 07, 2025 10:40 PM (U0iyS)

80 77 I’ve always thought life without parole is a worse punishment than execution. Prison for 50 years ain't fun I would imagine.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 07, 2025 10:39 PM (83El5)

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Meh. You get used to it.

Posted by: Charlie Manson at March 07, 2025 10:41 PM (dDmld)

81 Have a nephew that became an ATC in the Air Force. I was kind of surprised that they are enlisted. Don't know why, intelligence doesn't necessarily follow rank. He is really sharp. He did his time and is now a civilian controller.

Posted by: javems at March 07, 2025 10:41 PM (8I4hW)

82 So I don't think they used two shooters. Weird. Three still seems kind of small, unless they're five feet away when firing, i.e., can't miss range.

Posted by: RickZ at March 07, 2025 10:37 PM (gKDq2)

They had 3 shooters. All had live rounds.

https://tinyurl.com/49swaymc

Posted by: ScaryMary at March 07, 2025 10:42 PM (i/l90)

83 76 58 Hey, Piper! How’s my favorite partially Pawnee person this evening?
Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 10:38 PM (77rzZ)

Doing okay! Just got my sick kiddo out of my bed and into hers, she has this awful tummy bug.

Posted by: Piper at March 07, 2025 10:43 PM (T6NOp)

84 Boobs >>>>>> military gadgets

Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 10:44 PM (77rzZ)

85 I’ve always thought life without parole is a worse punishment than execution. Prison for 50 years ain't fun I would imagine.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 07, 2025 10:39 PM (83El5)

I see the argument but I always come back to my question: What do you do with a murderer who murders again in prison, either a C.O. or another inmate? At what point do we say, okay, you've murdered enough people so you've forfeited your right to breathe?

Posted by: RickZ at March 07, 2025 10:44 PM (gKDq2)

86 Good evening good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 07, 2025 10:45 PM (cYBz/)

87 I would not want a life sentence in Texas prison. Most prisons here don't have air conditioning.

Posted by: ScaryMary at March 07, 2025 10:45 PM (i/l90)

88 83 Prayer up for her full recovery, Piper:

Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 10:45 PM (77rzZ)

89 Naval curious? Two of the ships I spend YEARS on....

sit at the bottom of the sea, because WE sank them.

One is now a Reef... one was used for target practice.

I don't think I can describe how much that hurts.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 07, 2025 10:46 PM (QAkQ3)

90 79 39 For airhead, the loudest plane. (Maybe 90 seconds) Behold the Thunderscreech!

I read somewhere that the Thunderscreech made 11 test flight and 9 of them ended in declared emergencies including one where the propeller unit wrenched itself off the plane.

Posted by: JB1000 at March 07, 2025 10:40 PM (U0iyS)

I've read the most widely-used USAF aircraft with the worst/most annoying noise was the T-37 trainer. It was informally called the Tweet, and the Converter. The latter because it was said the engines converted jet fuel to sound. High-pitched LOUD sound.

Posted by: Gref at March 07, 2025 10:46 PM (aBgBM)

91
For the "authorities" tale of Gene Hackman's death to be plausible, we must believe he and his wife i) lived in squalor and filth, ii) were shut-ins, iii) lived with mice & rats and rodent shit, iv) dog neglect, dog shit everywhere, and v) very little contact with other humans.

Was this man not a father? A grandfather? A great-grandfather?

His wife supposedly catches a mice/rat-carried virus? Seeks no medical attention? No family mooching around? biden: Come on, man!

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 07, 2025 10:46 PM (Dxsnf)

92 76 58 Hey, Piper! How’s my favorite partially Pawnee person this evening?
Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 10:38 PM (77rzZ)

Thank you. All good with you?

Posted by: Piper at March 07, 2025 10:46 PM (T6NOp)

93 Piper, hope your daughter feels better soon.

Posted by: ScaryMary at March 07, 2025 10:47 PM (i/l90)

94 So I don't think they used two shooters. Weird. Three still seems kind of small, unless they're five feet away when firing, i.e., can't miss range.

Posted by: RickZ at March 07, 2025 10:37 PM (gKDq2)

They had 3 shooters. All had live rounds.

Posted by: ScaryMary

I'd be the person who "missed" and shot the balls off the s.o.b.

Posted by: Some Rat at March 07, 2025 10:47 PM (+VovS)

95 86. I am not a good person. But hey, anyway, Tonypete.

Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 10:48 PM (77rzZ)

96 I would not want a life sentence in Texas prison. Most prisons here don't have air conditioning.
Posted by: ScaryMary at March 07, 2025 10:45 PM (i/l90)

I've heard similar about Florida and other Gulf Coast prisons, like Angola.

Posted by: RickZ at March 07, 2025 10:48 PM (gKDq2)

97 . . . I realize that there's an awful lot of just- or mostly-lurkers reading the comments, and I realize my (all of our) little jokes and jibes and pithy observations have a much, much broader audience than just the obvious participants of the evening.. . .
Posted by: mindful webworker

So what you are saying is that the population that considers me an a-hole is much larger than voiced openly here?

Posted by: Tonypete at March 07, 2025 10:48 PM (cYBz/)

98 92 Piper, I’m still part of the unwanted workforce.

Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 10:49 PM (77rzZ)

99 Sylvester Turner is getting the full sendoff. Lie in state in Houston's City Hall, Texas flags lowered to half-staff, the works.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 07, 2025 10:49 PM (Aqu9a)

100 IIRC approx. 16,000lbs of CVN-65 will be incorporated into the new Enterprise along with eight portholes from CV-6.

So two great warships will live on. But at the same time oh how I curse the short-sightedness of the US Navy from not saving CV-6 in her entirety.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 07, 2025 10:50 PM (iuOmy)

101 Thank you, Roger Ball.

OK Pass ONT.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 07, 2025 10:50 PM (u82oZ)

102 Piper, Bananas, cooked rice, apple sauce, & toast is always good for a bad gut bug. (easy down and easy back up)

Also Florestor probiotic, and probably as much pedialyte as she feels she wants to drink.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2025 10:50 PM (D7oie)

103
His wife supposedly catches a mice/rat-carried virus? Seeks no medical attention? No family mooching around? biden: Come on, man!
Posted by: Soothsayer at March

3 of their out buildings, to include the casita, had rodent poop evidence. Apparently this is more prevalent in western states and presents like the flu, which is going around, and then gets bad fast. She was 65, so not like a 29 year old. He was 95 with dementia. His daughters had a weird relationship they said was distant. What is more weird to me is there were no other caretakers than the wife.

Posted by: Piper at March 07, 2025 10:51 PM (T6NOp)

104 We expect no firings or Reductions in Force due to DOGE.

Posted by: the University of Miklos at March 07, 2025 10:51 PM (RAvq7)

105 So what you are saying is that the population that considers me an a-hole is much larger than voiced openly here?
Posted by: Tonypete at March 07, 2025 10:48 PM (cYBz/)

Dude, if this was the ONLY way I was considered an Asshole? wow....

Most people are more an asshole online than in their real lives... as an IT guy? who understood early on that internet will be forever?

I'm more of an asshole in real life, than online...

Expect the younger generation to figure this out eventually.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 07, 2025 10:52 PM (QAkQ3)

106 81 Have a nephew that became an ATC in the Air Force. I was kind of surprised that they are enlisted. Don't know why, intelligence doesn't necessarily follow rank. He is really sharp. He did his time and is now a civilian controller.
Posted by: javems

ATC has/had the highest washout rate in the USAF. It's an extremely hard school to go through. Considering the job, that's a good thing.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at March 07, 2025 10:53 PM (ntk8v)

107 Piper, I’m still part of the unwanted workforce.
Posted by: Bulg

That is why I started my own Non-Profit.

Timing was off, though.

Posted by: Miklos has those blue eyes but too many miles on the saddle at March 07, 2025 10:54 PM (RAvq7)

108 Houston's trees are starting their Spring Break spawning emissions. Pollen coats the cars and will get heavier in the coming days.

Go long on Kleenex.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 07, 2025 10:54 PM (Aqu9a)

109 Sylvester Turner is getting the full sendoff. Lie in state in Houston's City Hall, Texas flags lowered to half-staff, the works.

Imagine what they would do for a good mayor. I guess we'll never know because Houston will never have one.

Posted by: Oddbob at March 07, 2025 10:54 PM (/y8xj)

110 So what you are saying is that the population that considers me an a-hole is much larger than voiced openly here?
Posted by: Tonypete at March 07, 2025 10:48 PM (cYBz/)

I can't figure out why we are flying B-52s from before I was born, and yet can't fix ships that are 20 years old.

And I say this as a Navy Retiree.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 07, 2025 10:54 PM (QAkQ3)

111 I was in a HUGHS 500 E flying back seat over some Wilderness country landscape in the East Bay Ca. when an alarm "BEEP, BEEP, BEEP lit up the top panel and my pilot was suddenly dumping the collective and diving towards a local mountain top...flared and landed hard. He yelled "EVERYONE OUT!" Which i did by jumping out flat on my face on the skid. He was still yelling at us to move away..."move AWAY!" which I crawled a good 20 feet. Turns out it was a faulty Battery Overheat alarm and we were good. But we had to wait for another helo to pick us up as our helo would have to be slinged back to the airport.

Good times in my youth.

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 07, 2025 10:54 PM (25kuG)

112 Sylvester Turner is getting the full sendoff. Lie in state in Houston's City Hall, Texas flags lowered to half-staff, the works.
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 07, 2025 10:49 PM (Aqu9a)

He died with his boots on.

Dude was 70, another one of our Gerontocracy.

Posted by: RickZ at March 07, 2025 10:55 PM (gKDq2)

113 For the non-Naval types - call signs are bestowed upon each and every SOB. You can not select your own call sign, to try that is, well, a real Delta Sierra move.

A legend in the F-8/F-4/F-14 community went by the call sign Hoser because of a certain time at aerial target practice when flying the F-8, a great plane except when tits-up, he seemed to hit everything but the target sleeve.

So I am always wondering how Ward Carrol, who likes the Beatles, got as his call sign "Mooch."

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 07, 2025 10:55 PM (iuOmy)

114 For the "authorities" tale of Gene Hackman's death to be plausible, we must believe he and his wife i) lived in squalor and filth, ii) were shut-ins, iii) lived with mice & rats and rodent shit, iv) dog neglect, dog shit everywhere, and v) very little contact with other humans.
Was this man not a father? A grandfather? A great-grandfather?
His wife supposedly catches a mice/rat-carried virus? Seeks no medical attention? No family mooching around? biden: Come on, man!

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 07, 2025 10:46 PM (Dxsnf)

The Gene Hackman story seems strange and weird but....

I've known older people who live in squalor and filth, who absolutely will not accept outside help. They resist and get angry if you try to help them.
Their homes are filthy.
Yes, there is clutter, crap, rat shit and dog shit everywhere.
They likely have family and friends who have tried without success to help them.
You call Adult Protective Services and hope that they will get the help they need.

These situations are not as open and closed as they seem. It is hard to force help on someone who does not wish to be helped.

Posted by: ScaryMary at March 07, 2025 10:55 PM (i/l90)

115 Have a nephew that became an ATC in the Air Force.

AlextheChick's backstory?

Posted by: Miklos is still taller than wide at March 07, 2025 10:55 PM (RAvq7)

116
Missouri wins $24B judgment against China in covid lawsuit.

Posted by: four seasons at March 07, 2025 10:56 PM (3ek7K)

117 My instant hot water dispenser went kaput today. I love that thing. I guess I have to burn the house down and rebuild...

Posted by: lin-duh at March 07, 2025 10:56 PM (VCgbV)

118 102 Piper, Bananas, cooked rice, apple sauce, & toast is always good for a bad gut bug. (easy down and easy back up)

Also Florestor probiotic, and probably as much pedialyte as she feels she wants to drink.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 07

Thank you. She is drinking liquid IV, and had a little bit of chicken soup, but said it made her tummy start rolling again. I just gave her a second dose of zofran, hoping that helps her get some more sleep. I will get the probiotic, we drink and get a lot of pro and prebiotics, but a digestive juice shot is not sounding amazing to her right now! A pill is probably a better source.

Posted by: Piper at March 07, 2025 10:57 PM (p4NUW)

119 If you flew the T-37/A-37 and over 6ft tall, if you had to eject your lower legs were staying in the plane.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 07, 2025 10:57 PM (iuOmy)

120 115 Have a nephew that became an ATC in the Air Force.

AlextheChick's backstory?

Posted by: Miklos is still taller than wide at March 07, 2025 10:55 PM (RAvq7)

Posted by: Guy Who Alyways "Says Too Soon" at March 07, 2025 10:58 PM (8I4hW)

121 Piper, I’m still part of the unwanted workforce.
Posted by: Bulg

Unwanted is harsh. Write a book, let’s use this down time for good. We can crowdsource your storyline here!

Posted by: Piper at March 07, 2025 10:59 PM (p4NUW)

122 Piper, I believe in the efficacy of ginger for upset tummies.

Flat ginger ale, ginger tea with lots of honey, etc.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deporte at March 07, 2025 11:00 PM (/ncst)

123 Bad sock

Posted by: javems at March 07, 2025 11:00 PM (8I4hW)

124 I can't figure out why we are flying B-52s from before I was born, and yet can't fix ships that are 20 years old.

And I say this as a Navy Retiree.
Posted by: Romeo13

One of my boys was a plank owner for a new DDG not long ago. When she left Ingalls Shipbuilding in Pascagoula, there were two ladders that led directly to the bulkheads with no doors at the top of the ladder. There were many more 'interesting' design features but those two really stuck out.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 07, 2025 11:01 PM (cYBz/)

125 Gettysburg almost bagged another Super Hornet that night. I really want to know how the layers of the Swiss cheese lined up for that one.

And then we just had Truman get hit by a cargo ship at Port Said Egypt. And ditto here with the Swiss cheese.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 07, 2025 11:01 PM (iuOmy)

126 Florestor is a type of yeast, var. Boullardi, that was discovered in French Indochina where locals were using Lychee peelings to treat cholera type diseases.
It is claimed to fight bad gut bacteria, and I have never had any bad reaction to it.

I hope she feels better soon

Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2025 11:02 PM (D7oie)

127 122 Piper, I believe in the efficacy of ginger for upset tummies.

Flat ginger ale, ginger tea with lots of honey, etc.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deporte

I do have ginger turmeric tea!

My middle one in Richmond just called to tell me she is sick, too. I am going to door dash her some ginger ale, tea, probiotics and liquid IV.

Everyone is falling apart!

Posted by: Piper at March 07, 2025 11:02 PM (p4NUW)

128 Music time.

Posted by: javems at March 07, 2025 11:03 PM (8I4hW)

129 HUGHES...sorry.

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 07, 2025 11:03 PM (25kuG)

130 119 If you flew the T-37/A-37 and over 6ft tall, if you had to eject your lower legs were staying in the plane.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 07, 2025 10:57 PM (iuOmy)

Could be worse, depending on ejection attitude and altitude. The first F-104s, all B-52s in the SAC days, and most if not all USAF B-66 variants had a downward ejection seat or seats. The currently-flying B-52Hs may still have one or two downward ejection seats. Not sure.

Posted by: Gref at March 07, 2025 11:04 PM (aBgBM)

131 121 I’m only qualified to write historical books that others would find incredibly boring.

Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 11:04 PM (77rzZ)

132 My instant hot water dispenser went kaput today. I love that thing. I guess I have to burn the house down and rebuild...
Posted by: lin-duh at March 07, 2025 10:56 PM (VCgbV)

Those are as easy to replace as the garbage disposal. If it isn't hard-wired into the electrical system you probably don't even have to be double jointed to snake it out.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2025 11:04 PM (D7oie)

133 112 Sylvester Turner is getting the full sendoff. Lie in state in Houston's City Hall, Texas flags lowered to half-staff, the works.
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 07, 2025 10:49 PM (Aqu9a)

Dear Lord. Is this on the state's dime? If so, cremate, cremate, cremate.

Posted by: ScaryMary at March 07, 2025 11:05 PM (i/l90)

134 These situations are not as open and closed as they seem. It is hard to force help on someone who does not wish to be helped.
Posted by: ScaryMary at March 07, 2025 10:55 PM (i/l90)
===
Hoarding Syndrome (DSM-5)
https://tinyurl.com/3znt5emy

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 07, 2025 11:05 PM (RIvkX)

135 First day of Spring Break for the local school district today. So we got 5 inches of snow.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at March 07, 2025 11:05 PM (lUFok)

136 East Bay Regional Park Police...Eagle II.

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 07, 2025 11:05 PM (25kuG)

137 I’m only qualified to write historical books that others would find incredibly boring.
Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 11:04 PM (77rzZ)

David Drake turned his classics degree and his technical writing skills into a career.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2025 11:05 PM (D7oie)

138
I hope she feels better soon
Posted by: Kindltot at March

Thank you for the suggestion, I am getting some for all my sick bunnies and me.

Posted by: Piper at March 07, 2025 11:06 PM (p4NUW)

139
RadioGenoa
@RadioGenoa
Two Muslim girls in Italy beat up an Italian Christian girl who was eating a sandwich on the bus: "You're a whor*, it's Ramadan, you can't eat." Then they also attacked the driver. They also want to force Christians to do Ramadan. This is Islam.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at March 07, 2025 11:07 PM (TGPs7)

140 Piper, I believe in the efficacy of ginger for upset tummies.

The Australian Wino Society can recommend the Chateau Chunder, a fine wine, which really opens up the sluices at both ends.

Posted by: gKWVE at March 07, 2025 11:07 PM (gKWVE)

141 ISLAM...is a FAKE RELIGION!

NUKE MECCA!

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 07, 2025 11:09 PM (25kuG)

142 My cousin flew a Douglas A-1 Skyraider off carriers in the Vietnam war and said the sportiest thing you can do is land on a pitching deck at night.

He and three others were flown onto the ship late at night and told they would not go out the next day. They were awakened at 4 a.m. and told they had to go NOW and the run was to Hanoi.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at March 07, 2025 11:09 PM (KiBMU)

143 Looking at gingers always helps my upset tummies.

Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 11:09 PM (77rzZ)

144 Hoarding Syndrome (DSM-5)
https://tinyurl.com/3znt5emy

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 07, 2025 11:05 PM (RIvkX)

Yes indeed. I have a friend I've tried so hard to encourage and help over the year. She needs mental help, that she will not accept. I've had to back off for my own sanity.

Posted by: ScaryMary at March 07, 2025 11:09 PM (i/l90)

145 Too all Staff and Contactors-

As you know, the Evil Nazi Mussolini Hirohito (not racist because he had a moustache) has ceased funding our vital and needed work.

You are all fired.

Despite receiving funding of more than $2.8 billion in the last four years, our cash flow has stopped. Our only remaining assets are those in certain obscure banking havens.

I understand that this will cause concern to all who have done so much to get this money for our (well, now my) NON PROFIT ORGANIZATION.

Especially those who participated in the Crypto IRAs and co-funded 401ks that Sam Banks-Freedman generously offered. Somebody might have the crypto keys, you don't. heh

I acknowledge the issues raised regarding my own compensation. As a World Religious Faith says, "Much is given to those who ask, and get funded."

Posted by: The Southern Miklos Center of Poverty Law and Stuff at March 07, 2025 11:09 PM (RAvq7)

146 I’m only qualified to write historical books that others would find incredibly boring.

That is all David Drake did, take ancient history and dress it up in science fiction clothing. ie: Roman Legions lost in Parthia sold to space aliens to act as mercenaries.

Poul Anderson's The High Crusade. Jerry Pournelle, Jannisaries. And so on.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 07, 2025 11:09 PM (iuOmy)

147 Good evening, good people from the Windirondacks, home of the typical March weather hijinks.

As usual, may all effort undertaken this and ALL other days result in maximal benefit to you and commensurate grief to the leftwit fungi.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at March 07, 2025 11:11 PM (hKoQL)

148 147

Well then, a good evening to you Sir.

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 07, 2025 11:13 PM (25kuG)

149 No. I believe in straight history, not combined with scifi crap, or even an admixture of credible fiction.

Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 11:13 PM (77rzZ)

150 Or take it in a fantasy direction.

Elizabeth Moon in the first Paksenarrion book Sheepfarmer's Daughter modeled the campaign against Siniava upon actual historical events in Italy.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 07, 2025 11:15 PM (iuOmy)

151 Then Bulg, you have boxed yourself in with a big "NO."

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 07, 2025 11:15 PM (iuOmy)

152 149 No. I believe in straight history, not combined with scifi crap, or even an admixture of credible fiction.
Posted by: Bulg at March 07

I suggest strongly against being rigid in a lot of circumstances, this might be one! 😀

Posted by: Piper at March 07, 2025 11:15 PM (p4NUW)

153 There is too much fake history out there already. I’m not going to contribute to it.

Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 11:17 PM (77rzZ)

154 103

Piper

I agree.

Hackman was 95, with severe ALZ, according to the autopsy report-- in other words helpless. He must've been 100% dependent on his wife, apparently.

There's a lot of Hantavirus in the SW (particularly on Indian reservations), I believe. I'm surprised it struck her down so quickly. Perhaps she mistook the symptoms she experienced for flu, as you suggest.

It's likely easy for an elderly couple with that kind of money to live as recluses. If they have no family, or if they're estranged from family, who's going to intrude on them?

The one big surprise for me is that they didn't have a regular housekeeper. They could've hired a live-in caretaker, too. They could've afforded to construct a guesthouse for that purpose. Multiple published reports have estimated Hackman's net worth at appx $80 million.

Posted by: mnw at March 07, 2025 11:17 PM (NLIak)

155 Does anyone have recommendations on books re Soviet/Russian/Ukrainian history? Something evenhanded, and not too Noam Chomsky-ish leftist?

Posted by: ScaryMary at March 07, 2025 11:18 PM (i/l90)

156 Shit, is something wrong with WeirdDave?

Posted by: McLurkerson at March 07, 2025 11:18 PM (4lIqr)

157 149 No. I believe in straight history, not combined with scifi crap, or even an admixture of credible fiction.
Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 11:13 PM (77rzZ)

--------

Then I suppose you won't be interested in investing in my upcoming historically-based children's book.

Working Title: Ashurbanipal Hears A Who

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 07, 2025 11:18 PM (dDmld)

158 Then there is Gordon R. Dickson and Poul Anderson's collaborative series of humorous stories of this species of very imaginative alien teddy bears who got exposed to Terran literature and history books.

Hoka! Hoka! Hoka!

So now the Earthlings have to deal with cute teddy bear Sherlock Holmes and even the odd Napoleon.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 07, 2025 11:20 PM (iuOmy)

159 Shit, is something wrong with WeirdDave?

Posted by: McLurkerson at March 07, 2025 11:18 PM (4lIqr)

His sister passed recently. Per last night's ONT he has gone to her memorial service.

Posted by: ScaryMary at March 07, 2025 11:20 PM (i/l90)

160 And from the god Ashur I heard a voice call -
"A rebel's a rebel, so go flay them all"

Posted by: gKWVE at March 07, 2025 11:20 PM (gKWVE)

161 From the god Azura Mazda ye shall hear oft times this chant, "should have bought the extended warranty."

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 07, 2025 11:22 PM (iuOmy)

162 I have developed a very "special" weapon against the Islamic Cretans within our country...

A Minigun that fires flash frozen "Farmer Johns" sausage links at 500 RPM out to 300 yards.

Let's test this in Minnesota...

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 07, 2025 11:25 PM (25kuG)

163 A CL-215 flying over Dearbornistan dispensing pig's blood would be a war crime and a bio-hazard.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 07, 2025 11:26 PM (iuOmy)

164 The Cretans were pimps. They could never have outfought the Mycenaean Greeks.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 07, 2025 11:26 PM (dDmld)

165 But those Cretens could jump a bull...

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 07, 2025 11:27 PM (iuOmy)

166 all of the cats are sleeping, scattered to their varied beds, and one of them is snoring.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2025 11:27 PM (D7oie)

167 I award myself a Nobel Participation Prize.

Peace

Posted by: The Norwegian Academy of Science and Miklos at March 07, 2025 11:28 PM (RAvq7)

168 Good night, All. Happy Weekend.

I’m too much of a depressed cuss to be on the ONT.

Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 11:28 PM (77rzZ)

169 Piper

I always picture the superrich as having all kinds of hired help, staff, servants.

So... not always.

I'd like to know more about how the Hackmans got their groceries; paid their household bills. Did they interact regularly with ANYBODY?

Posted by: mnw at March 07, 2025 11:29 PM (NLIak)

170 166 all of the cats are sleeping, scattered to their varied beds, and one of them is snoring.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2025 11:27 PM (D7oie)

Awww! My big black cat is with me, Sabi went with the sick kid and my middle daughter said her little cat Star is trying make her feel better.

Cats are the best.

Posted by: Piper at March 07, 2025 11:29 PM (p4NUW)

171 The Cretans were pimps. They could never have outfought the Mycenaean Greeks.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 07, 2025 11:26 PM (dDmld)

And . . . They didn't.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2025 11:30 PM (D7oie)

172 Spell check next time ya bums...cre·tin (s)

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 07, 2025 11:30 PM (25kuG)

173 Big ol' Philippine Mars looked under powered.
Eighty years of service, guess she had a right to be tired.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 07, 2025 11:30 PM (2sg1c)

174 169 Piper

I always picture the superrich as having all kinds of hired help, staff, servants.

So... not always.

I'd like to know more about how the Hackmans got their groceries; paid their household bills. Did they interact regularly with ANYBODY?
Posted by: mnw at March 07, 2025

The regular maintenance guys found them, so they had them. The wife was emailing people, which suddenly stopped but no one checked in.

Posted by: Piper at March 07, 2025 11:31 PM (p4NUW)

175 Does anyone have recommendations on books re Soviet/Russian/Ukrainian history? Something evenhanded, and not too Noam Chomsky-ish leftist?
Posted by: ScaryMary at March 07, 2025 11:18 PM (i/l90)

Robert Conquest, any of his works but particularly "The Great Terror: Stalin's Purge of the Thirties" (196

, "The Man-made Famine in Ukraine" (with James Mace, Michael Novak and Dana Dalrymple, 1984), and "The Harvest of Sorrow: Soviet Collectivization and the Terror-Famine" (1986). Are all good evenhanded reads of an oppressive state.

Posted by: RickZ at March 07, 2025 11:31 PM (gKDq2)

176 Posted by: mnw at March 07, 2025 11:17 PM (NLIak)

My mama has Alz
Sometimes she refuses to wear clothes.
Sometimes she stands there nekkid and pees on the kitchen floor.
I never know which mama I'm getting. I don't care to have housekeepers or carerakers in to see her like that, or subjected to her aggression on days when she's agitated.

You do not know what anyone is going through, no matter how much money they have.

I personally think she died from exhaustion, not realing how sick she was, because she was so used to running on empty.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 07, 2025 11:31 PM (Ezs10)

177 Night, Bulg. Take advise from friends, even if you may not want to at first…

That is from tonight’s fortune cookie.

Posted by: Piper at March 07, 2025 11:32 PM (p4NUW)

178 That 2019 Angel has Fallen is what I've been thinking. Only I saw it as a swarm of dragon flies released from a fixed wing or cruise type missile.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 07, 2025 11:33 PM (2sg1c)

179 W. Bruce Lincoln is the go-to guy on Russian or Soviet history.

Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 11:34 PM (77rzZ)

180 Those are as easy to replace as the garbage disposal. If it isn't hard-wired into the electrical system you probably don't even have to be double jointed to snake it out.
Posted by: Kindltot
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I'm gonna need a plumber....

Posted by: lin-duh at March 07, 2025 11:35 PM (VCgbV)

181 The JRM Mars was powered by four R-3350 engines producing 2,500HP each.

The R-3350 was the engine in the B-29 Superfortress and A-1 Skyraider.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 07, 2025 11:35 PM (iuOmy)

182 Their deaths were so bizarre, here's a story that cries out for further investigation to add clarity.

Posted by: mnw at March 07, 2025 11:35 PM (NLIak)

183 174

It's just a very sad ending for both of them. WE may never know the heartache and final capitulation that they ended their lives on.

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 07, 2025 11:35 PM (25kuG)

184 But those Cretens could jump a bull...

There's no stoppin
The Cretins from hoppin

https://youtu.be/3Z8jCeCj0gQ

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at March 07, 2025 11:35 PM (lUFok)

185 ScaryMary,

Of course, you can always read Solzhenitsyn, particularly 'Gulag Archipelago (Vol I)' as well as any of his fiction. Good stuff.

Posted by: RickZ at March 07, 2025 11:36 PM (gKDq2)

186 Night, Piper.

Posted by: Bulg at March 07, 2025 11:36 PM (77rzZ)

187 184
👺

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 07, 2025 11:37 PM (25kuG)

188 Good night, y’all.

Posted by: Piper at March 07, 2025 11:39 PM (p4NUW)

189 176

Tammy

So sad about your mother.

I make it a point to stay in VERY close contact with my adult sons. I'd do it anyway, of course, but it gives me some reassurance when I read about the Hackmans.

I did say "some."

Posted by: mnw at March 07, 2025 11:40 PM (NLIak)

190 That lifting body jet will make a fine private plane for some Russian oligarch. It would be like a house inside.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Sunday is Vic's Birthday at March 07, 2025 11:40 PM (PS4T+)

191 The last takeoff of the MARS was San Francisco Bay, Not Sproat lake.

Posted by: DBCooper at March 07, 2025 11:41 PM (y1Mvi)

192 Thanks Rick Z. and Bulg. I read Gulag Archipelago years ago, before I was 29. I will check out the other recs. That is a part of the world that I don't understand, and it seems important right now.

Posted by: ScaryMary at March 07, 2025 11:41 PM (i/l90)

193 i am sorry to hear about your Mom, Tammy.
It is good that she has you, but it must be a terrible burden.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 07, 2025 11:41 PM (D7oie)

194 So I should go though it's been fun.

But please pray for Elon Musk...a good-hearted PATRIOT who may be just now understanding how EPIC the work he is doing and all the danger he has just exposed himself to.

Let us please support him every way we can.

Night Horde.

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 07, 2025 11:46 PM (25kuG)

195 Are any of the pre-war Pan-Am Clippers still existant?

Posted by: Grump928(C) Sunday is Vic's Birthday at March 07, 2025 11:49 PM (PS4T+)

196 Tammy-al Thor, sorry to hear about your mom.
My mom had Alzheimers.
I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at March 07, 2025 11:50 PM (elaR+)

197 Tammy,

I too am sorry to hear of your mother.

My prayers to you of course and a wish for peace to you.

Nightwatch.

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 07, 2025 11:50 PM (25kuG)

198 Prayers too for the Data Republican who is helping DOGE uncover the funding and connections. She is deaf and nonverbal. The Cajun Navy relocated her because of death threats.

Posted by: ScaryMary at March 07, 2025 11:50 PM (i/l90)

199 Thanks Rick Z. and Bulg. I read Gulag Archipelago years ago, before I was 29. I will check out the other recs. That is a part of the world that I don't understand, and it seems important right now.
Posted by: ScaryMary at March 07, 2025 11:41 PM (i/l90)

Ukrainian-Russian history is, to say the least, complicated. Kyev is the ancient home of the Rus. Ukrainians speak Russian and Ukrainian. Stalin did nothing to help.

This is why, in WWII, so many Ukrainians joined forces with the nazis, they were so sick of the commies, even hailing the nazis as liberators. But the nazis couldn't stop being nazis and soon lost any popular supoport. But that's why there are Ukrainian nazis, they hated the commies more than the nazis.

Ukraine in WWII was between The Devil and a Very Bad Place. As someone who's read some of that history, I simply can't imagine what I would have done. And I sure as hell can't criticize. Stalin? Hitler? A Hobson's Choice if there ever was one.

Posted by: RickZ at March 07, 2025 11:51 PM (gKDq2)

200 Thanks, Roger! Beefy ONT & great links.

Recently watched NATGEO's Disaster Autopsy, episode S1E7 -Fukushima, Manhattan Crane, Forrestal, for about the 20th time.

Until the series, never paid attention to the fact that John McCain had also been a pilot on the flight deck at the time of the July 1967 disaster.

Footage and analysis of the fire and attempts by trained responders to fight it were both amazing & incredibly sad. Of course you & other very knowledgeable members of the Horde would know that 134 Sailors and aviators were killed, 161 injured and 21 aircraft destroyed.

Nite, all.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at March 07, 2025 11:51 PM (NFX2v)

201 @144. I've had to back off for my on sanity.

Yeah, know the feeling. I think some people are oblivious to how their problems can depress the hell out of the people around them. Just gets to the point I don't want to hear it anymore.

Posted by: Case at March 07, 2025 11:51 PM (xcRXq)

202 >>>I personally think she died from exhaustion, not realing how sick she was, because she was so used to running on empty.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor
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Mom just drifted away little by little but it was difficult keeping up with her and watching out for things and organizing/looking after.
Total focus concentrating on your loved one causing distraction from other responsibilities to her, house and yourself.

I can only imagine what a difficult thing it was.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 07, 2025 11:52 PM (2sg1c)

203 Posted by: mnw at March 07, 2025 11:40 PM (NLIak)

It's good that you do! My brother's don't call any more. They call me, but she called the police and told them perverts kept calling her, trying to kidnap her, so they had to stop calling! 😂

It is so hard. She still has fairly normal days, and wants to go in to a nursing home. There's only one in this county and they aren't really staffed to handle her at night. They refer .Emory care patients to one hours from here. I can't do that while she still knows who I am.

Thor is a huge help, but it is incredibly difficult, and I feel terrible because I have no patience and am having to constantly bite my tongue/count to 20/ keep myself from running from the screaming.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 07, 2025 11:52 PM (Ezs10)

204 {{{Tammy}}}

Posted by: vmom deport deport deporte at March 07, 2025 11:55 PM (/ncst)

205 195

Alas no...the only aircraft that were even close in design were recently retired... The Martin JRM Mars which served out their post WWII service as Fire Bombers were finally retired in 2018 and sent to museums in the last 2 years.

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 07, 2025 11:55 PM (25kuG)

206 198 Prayers too for the Data Republican who is helping DOGE uncover the funding and connections. She is deaf and nonverbal. The Cajun Navy relocated her because of death threats.
Posted by: ScaryMary
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Have they hired her or is she still on her own?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 07, 2025 11:56 PM (2sg1c)

207 Tammy

You're an inspiration. Prayers up for your Mom and for you.

Posted by: mnw at March 07, 2025 11:59 PM (NLIak)

208 I'm still trying to figure out why Pam Bondi is reacting Epstein files for "national security". Was Epstein CIA, or sime other alphabet person for the US or Israel? All people want are the names of the pervs, we can take it from there.

Posted by: Megthered at March 08, 2025 12:00 AM (IhCl1)

209 Braenyard, last I read, she was working on getting her security clearance. I don't know if she is officially working for DOGE yet, but she is a treasure.

Posted by: ScaryMary at March 08, 2025 12:01 AM (i/l90)

210 208 I'm still trying to figure out why Pam Bondi is reacting Epstein files for "national security". Was Epstein CIA, or sime other alphabet person for the US or Israel? All people want are the names of the pervs, we can take it from there.
Posted by: Megthered

The window to find useful information in the Epstein files closed a few years ago. That info has been long shredded, burned, and disappeared. I would prefer that Bondi would just say that because it's so obvious that this is a 'squirrel'.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at March 08, 2025 12:03 AM (ntk8v)

211 A treasure she is. I'll put a word in for her tonight.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 08, 2025 12:04 AM (2sg1c)

212 That's what I told my husband but he was thinking they kept some for security or blackmail.
But you're right, she just needs to say sorry, it's all gone, and move on to the next crisis.

Posted by: Megthered at March 08, 2025 12:07 AM (IhCl1)

213 I would prefer that Bondi would just say that because it's so obvious that this is a 'squirrel'.
Posted by: Puddleglum
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There are more effective things with results more timely.
Those two leakers that Noem pressed charges on.
That would be a hot heads up to the current weasels.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 08, 2025 12:08 AM (2sg1c)

214 Shit, is something wrong with WeirdDave?
Posted by: McLurkerson at March 07, 2025 11:18 PM (4lIqr)

He's back East to attend the memorial service for his late sister.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 08, 2025 12:09 AM (8zz6B)

215 Posted by: Soothsayer at March 07, 2025 10:46 PM (Dxsnf)

The dogs could've drug in a mouse. Mr. Hackman could have found a pile of mouse droppings and picked it up bare handed and placed it upon Mrs. Hackman's pillow, so he could be sure she saw it. I'm removing it, she would have been exposed. This occurs to me because my mother has done this with her own feces.
It becomes very isolating, because you don't want people to see your loved ones in such a condition. They don't know who anyone is any more, so people quit calling them. I'm sure people touched base every so often, but there is literally nothing to say. It's just varying degrees of horror. I'm lucky I can laugh with people. But maybe an Asian woman, usually very much in control of things and very conscious of appearances, cannot laugh and in fact feels Ike a failure because everything is spinning out of control. She purs up a goid front with the kids, because she doesn't want them to know that daddy is walking around maturating everywhere.

We won't know. There could be something very fishy, but I can absolutely see a million ways this could've happened.

And thank you all for your kind words!

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 08, 2025 12:10 AM (Ezs10)

216 Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 07, 2025 11:52 PM

I'm so sorry about your mom. Praying for your family!

It's exhausting to try keeping a person safe, however: you must sleep sometime! Or, turn your back for a few minutes (like using the restroom). No one or even two people can handle the broken-minded 24/7/365.

Sucks that there's no close-by option for professional care but if she *wants* to go, why not let her?

Posted by: JQ at March 08, 2025 12:11 AM (rdVOm)

217 They should make a commercial airliner out of the same material they make the black boxes with.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 08, 2025 12:11 AM (VofaG)

218 That was unknown until now Al, at least to me.

Prayers up to Dave during this tragic time then.

Something that we older posters are going to be dealing with sooner than later in the last 3rd of our lives.

Prayers.

Posted by: Nightwatch at March 08, 2025 12:14 AM (25kuG)

219 The last takeoff of the MARS was San Francisco Bay, Not Sproat lake.
Posted by: DBCooper at March 07, 2025 11:41 PM (y1Mvi)

Well, it was its last takeoff from Sproat Lake, where it had been based for many, many years. End of an era. I remember driving past Sproat Lake and seeing them there. Long time ago, now.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 08, 2025 12:14 AM (8zz6B)

220 Posted by: RickZ at March 07, 2025 11:51 PM (gKDq2)

That would have been fine but Ukrainians became Nazi SS Death Squads .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 08, 2025 12:15 AM (VofaG)

221 Both of my parents had Alzeheimers and I tried to keep them home as long as possible. But my mother got very bad very fast and was combative with everyone. I put her in a care facility and moved my dad in with us. No one knows how it is when you have to care for elderly parents. It's so hard, exhausting, frustrating but it's what we do.

Posted by: Megthered at March 08, 2025 12:18 AM (IhCl1)

222 Posted by: JQ at March 08, 2025 12:11 AM (rdVOm)

Thor and I take turns sleeping! Hecus a bkess8ng beyond measure!

Any facility that is staffed to my satisfaction is hours away. I do not want to run myself ragged visiting her as often as I'd need to while she still knows who I am. Once she no longer recognizes me, I will feel better about visiting once a week. But not til then.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 08, 2025 12:19 AM (Ezs10)

223 Jayne Mansfield had a 160 IQ and spoke 5 languages...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at March 08, 2025 12:20 AM (TGPs7)

224 And y'all get your nursing home insurance now. Nursing homes be expensive.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 08, 2025 12:22 AM (Ezs10)

225 For the Red Sea F-18 shoot-down, also see this article at Real Clear Defense. By a former Ticonderoga class cruiser skipper, I believe.

https://tinyurl.com/2dvrx26n

As noted by Roger Ball, it's multiple systemic problems that likely contributed. Multiple. Systemic. Ouch. Lotta work ahead to return the USN (and other branches, most likely) to fighting form.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 08, 2025 12:22 AM (1m82a)

226 Taking care of my mother in her last two years was hard though I was able to do things I thought I could never do when I thought about it ten years prior while hearing other’s experiences.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 08, 2025 12:23 AM (VofaG)

227 FYI for anyone reading/lurking. Geriatric Care Managers are worth their weight in gold, especially if you don't live near your parent/loved one. My MIL had multiple health issues and a personality disorder. She was sick for years, and not always easy to deal with. It helped to have a professional who was caring, but neutral to help out.

Posted by: ScaryMary at March 08, 2025 12:25 AM (i/l90)

228 Posted by: Megthered at March 08, 2025 12:18 AM (IhCl1)

Thankfully, I just have mama. No offense, Daddy. But I'm glad Jesus is taking care of him, and not me. I got my hands full as it is! 🤣🤣🤣

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 08, 2025 12:25 AM (Ezs10)

229 Lord God, when my time has come please let me go peacefully and without being a burden to others. Amen.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 08, 2025 12:25 AM (mH6SG)

230 Any facility that is staffed to my satisfaction is hours away. I do not want to run myself ragged visiting her as often as I'd need to while she still knows who I am. Once she no longer recognizes me, I will feel better about visiting once a week. But not til then.
Posted by: Tammy-al Thor
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Understood!

Glad you've got Thor to help!

You're a good daughter, Miss Tammy.

Posted by: JQ at March 08, 2025 12:27 AM (rdVOm)

231 Posted by: RickZ at March 07, 2025 11:51 PM (gKDq2)
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That would have been fine but Ukrainians became Nazi SS Death Squads .
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 08, 2025 12:15 AM (VofaG)

I understand. Believe me, I do. Like I said, complicated. Stalin killed more than Hitler (though Hitler brought industrialization to killing). Between the outright executions and the working to death as slave labor under Stalin, staying alive was no piece of cake. Like I said, I can't imagine the choice. It sucked. But self-preservation is a powerful instinct. Even in shitty situations.

Posted by: RickZ at March 08, 2025 12:28 AM (gKDq2)

232 @SecRollins
CANCELLED: $600,000 grant to study “menstrual cycles in transgender men”

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 08, 2025 12:29 AM (2sg1c)

233 “menstrual cycles in transgender men”
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WTAF?

Good grief.

Posted by: JQ at March 08, 2025 12:30 AM (rdVOm)

234 @DOGE
Mar 7
The VA cancelled a $56,000 contract to water ~8 plants for 5 years. This is ~$1400/plant/year. The contract has been canceled and DOGE will water the plants free of charge.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 08, 2025 12:31 AM (2sg1c)

235 @SecRollins
CANCELLED: $600,000 grant to study “menstrual cycles in transgender men”
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 08, 2025 12:29 AM (2sg1c)

Transgender mens' mentrual cycles have a crossbar in front of the seat.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 08, 2025 12:31 AM (8zz6B)

236 @SecRollins
CANCELLED: $600,000 grant to study “menstrual cycles in transgender men”
Posted by: Braenyard

If this is written in the usual way, you can replace "trans" with "fake."

"transgender men" = "fake men" = women.

So at least they have menstrual cycles.

I'm not sure we have to spend 600 large to study them, though.

Posted by: mikeski at March 08, 2025 12:33 AM (DgGvY)

237 CANCELLED: $600,000 grant to study “menstrual cycles in transgender men”

Whatever will they do? So very hard to believe that we are having to cancel utter lunacy.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 08, 2025 12:34 AM (mH6SG)

238 233 “menstrual cycles in transgender men”
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WTAF?

Good grief.
Posted by: JQ at March 08, 2025 12:30 AM (rdVOm)

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Now we'll never know.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 08, 2025 12:34 AM (JkO4W)

239 The VA cancelled a $56,000 contract to water ~8 plants for 5 years.
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FJB and... 7 others?
Do they think FJB will make it 5 more years?

Posted by: JQ at March 08, 2025 12:34 AM (rdVOm)

240 The VA cancelled a $56,000 contract to water ~8 plants for 5 years. This is ~$1400/plant/year. The contract has been canceled and DOGE will water the plants free of charge.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 08, 2025 12:31 AM (2sg1c)

Hey! They were money trees. Salesman told us that after 50 years, they would start bearing.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 08, 2025 12:34 AM (8zz6B)

241 I read about that plant-watering grift. I'd take 50k per year to water some houseplants. Sounds like a sweet deal.

Posted by: ScaryMary at March 08, 2025 12:35 AM (i/l90)

242 CANCELLED: $600,000 grant to study “menstrual cycles in transgender men”
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 08, 2025 12:29 AM (2sg1c)

One of the best fake quotes (attributed to Sen. Dirksen): "A billion here, a billion there, pretty soon, you're talking real money."

Posted by: RickZ at March 08, 2025 12:35 AM (gKDq2)

243 I read about that plant-watering grift. I'd take 50k per year to water some houseplants. Sounds like a sweet deal.
Posted by: ScaryMary
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Me too!

Hey, we could go into biz together!

Posted by: JQ at March 08, 2025 12:36 AM (rdVOm)

244 TuckerCarlson

As predictable as this is, it’s still infuriating to see it. For decades, Bashar al-Assad protected minority religious communities in Syria, including the country’s large Christian population.

No one in the United States was allowed to notice this, and anyone who did was immediately denounced by neocons as a dangerous extremist. Bari Weiss declared Tulsi Gabbard “monstrous” and an “Assad toady” for noticing. But it was true. Assad protected the Christians.
The weaker Assad was, the more Christians died. During the years that neocons in the west backed the war against Assad, the percentage of Christians in Syria went from ten percent to two percent.

Now that Assad has been driven from power, many of the remaining Syrian Christians are being slaughtered and their holy places desecrated. Bari Weiss and John Bolton haven’t said a word about it. But no one who’s paying attention can be surprised it’s happening. Neocon projects in the Middle East invariably destroy ancient Christian communities, from Iraq to Gaza and in many places in between. Can this be an accident? You wonder.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 08, 2025 12:38 AM (2sg1c)

245 Posted by: JQ at March 08, 2025 12:27 AM (rdVOm)

No, I'm not. I'm a dutiful daughter, 'tis true. But a good daughter would have more patience.

Honestly, I don't mind the gross part at all. It's having to answer the same question literally 5 times a minute, for hours on end, then it starting in again the next day. It's feeling trapped. I have spent my entire life avoiding responsibility because I am borderline phobic about it, yet here I am.

Enough whining. All Y'all Morons are so dear to me.
Thank you!

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 08, 2025 12:39 AM (Ezs10)

246 I read about that plant-watering grift. I'd take 50k per year to water some houseplants. Sounds like a sweet deal.
Posted by: ScaryMary at March 08, 2025 12:35 AM (i/l90)

That's the sort of thing that should be assigned to the general manager on site, as a matter of course. Might take ten minutes a day. But it would also take him around the building, and he (or she) could keep on eye on what the flunkies were doing without obviously "spying" on them. And simply make a little small talk with the plebes whle doing that chore.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 08, 2025 12:40 AM (8zz6B)

247 The Hong Kong-based conglomerate, CK Hutchison Holding, is selling all shares in Hutchison Port Holdings and all shares in Hutchison Port Group Holdings to a consortium including BlackRock Inc..

The deal will give the consortium, comprised of BlackRock, Global Infrastructure Partners and Terminal Investment Limited, control over 43 ports in 23 countries, including two of the four major ports that exist along the Panama Canal, Mexico, the Netherlands, Egypt, Australia, Pakistan and elsewhere.

The consortium will acquire 90% interests in Panama Ports Company, which owns and operates the ports of Balboa and Cristobal in Panama, according to the filing.
_edited from CBS

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 08, 2025 12:42 AM (2sg1c)

248 Stop criticizing yourself, Tammy. You're doing great.

<3

Posted by: JQ at March 08, 2025 12:42 AM (rdVOm)

249 Lord God, when my time has come please let me go peacefully and without being a burden to others. Amen.
Posted by: Notorious BFD

Peacefully in your sleep, and not screaming in fear like your passengers?

Posted by: just the punchline, conversationally at March 08, 2025 12:42 AM (DgGvY)

250 Part of me thinks the deal Blackrock put together was a get out of jail card.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 08, 2025 12:45 AM (2sg1c)

251 Both of my parents had Alzeheimers and I tried to keep them home as long as possible. But my mother got very bad very fast and was combative with everyone. I put her in a care facility and moved my dad in with us. No one knows how it is when you have to care for elderly parents. It's so hard, exhausting, frustrating but it's what we do.

Posted by: Megthered at March 08, 2025 12:18 AM (IhCl1)

I think it's hard no matter what. I go to my fathers on sundays to have dinner and check up on him and see how things are going. His older brother and sister recently moved to his neighborhood, so they come over on sunday too. Dad is 86, sister is 89, and brother is pushing 91. All of their spouses are gone, its just them. Alzheimer's don't run in the family, so all 3 of them are still pretty sharp, but mobility seems to be a looming issue. My father drives, but not in the rain, my uncle don't drive at night, and seems to be hinting at giving it up altogether, and my aunt is not driving at all. Nice that they're all together, but when that mobility goes its going to be an issue for them. All the kids are going to have to pick up the slack.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 08, 2025 12:46 AM (VwHCD)

252 Posted by: Notorious BFD

Despite my ridiculous whining, it is not a burden. It's hard, very hard, and a giant pain in my selfish ass, but she is my mother.

Do you have children? I don't, but I suspect that despite all the attendant mess and worry and inconvenience and general overwlement at times, you would say they were the supreme joy in your life.

Never a burden.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 08, 2025 12:47 AM (Ezs10)

253 Shouldn't be here but picked a good night for insomnia
I love aviation stuff

Posted by: Skip at March 08, 2025 12:48 AM (fwDg9)

254 “menstrual cycles in transgender men”
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WTAF?

Good grief.

Posted by: JQ at March 08, 2025 12:30 AM (rdVOm)

Right? Real men have a harley. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 08, 2025 12:49 AM (VwHCD)

255 Shouldn't be here but picked a good night for insomnia
I love aviation stuff
Posted by: Skip at March 08, 2025 12:48 AM (fwDg9)

How does that work? You spin the big prize wheel or something?

Posted by: RickZ at March 08, 2025 12:50 AM (gKDq2)

256 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 08, 2025 12:46 AM (VwHCD)

Yea, even before all this started in, my mom had to quit driving, and all her siblings and friends have died.

I'm glad your dad still has his siblings! Socializing is sooo important.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at March 08, 2025 12:53 AM (Ezs10)

257 “menstrual cycles in transgender men”
------------

WTAF?

Good grief.

Posted by: JQ at March 08, 2025 12:30 AM (rdVOm)
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Right? Real men have a harley. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 08, 2025 12:49 AM (VwHCD)

Only Harley's Bleed.

Posted by: Alice Crotchrocket at March 08, 2025 12:53 AM (gKDq2)

258 @ResisttheMS
6h
JUST IN: Rep. Tim Burchett states that he is willing to risk his seat in Congress to expose why government officials oppose Elon Musk and DOGE's efforts.
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Never heard of this guy but good for him.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 08, 2025 12:54 AM (2sg1c)

259 My dad was in the Air Force, before he married Mom. Even trained as ATC. (Biloxi?)

He didn't want the responsibility & stress, so was never employed as a Controller after he got out.

Posted by: JQ at March 08, 2025 12:54 AM (rdVOm)

260 “menstrual cycles in transgender men”

WTAF?
Good grief.
Posted by: JQ

Right? Real men have a harley. lol
Posted by: Berserker

And trans men have a harley quim?

Posted by: it probably is like a clown car at March 08, 2025 12:57 AM (DgGvY)

261 @ScottPresler 3h

WOW!

The US Debt Clock has now been updated to not only include DOGE, but also savings per taxpayer:

DOGE Savings: $175 billion
Savings Per Taxpayer: $1,558
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We might get a $5000 check if they kept going.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 08, 2025 12:59 AM (2sg1c)

262 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 08, 2025 12:46 AM

Cool that your dad & siblings can live close and visit often! Also-- very nice that they still have their mental faculties intact. Mobility issues seem much less stressful/expensive to compensate for.

Posted by: JQ at March 08, 2025 01:00 AM (rdVOm)

263 The US Debt Clock has now been updated to not only include DOGE, but also savings per taxpayer:

DOGE Savings: $175 billion
Savings Per Taxpayer: $1,558
Posted by: Braenyard

Annually? Pretty soon we will be talking real money.

Posted by: mikeski at March 08, 2025 01:00 AM (DgGvY)

264 Might be a tell think only seen Ike once.

Posted by: Skip at March 08, 2025 01:01 AM (fwDg9)

265 Tammy

You should feel PROUD. You've got that "Honor thy father and thy mother" thing covered!

You have a right to be proud of being so dutiful.

Posted by: mnw at March 08, 2025 01:02 AM (NLIak)

266
I regret voting for Trump.

Posted by: some random fuckface on twitter who everyone retweets at March 08, 2025 01:02 AM (Dxsnf)

267 My Mom went into the hospital for a simple operation that wound up killing her. Sepsis took her.

It took the heart and will out of Dad, you could flat see it. They were married "Two days short of forever" we used to say. My brother and I followed suit, I can't conceive of being without my ginger and am sure he feels the same. And that, I think, will be enough on that subject.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at March 08, 2025 01:03 AM (hKoQL)

268 My sister retired to West PA just so she can keep an eye on the 80+ parental units. Both are fine mentally but Dad is very wobblily (uses, or is suppose to, a walker). He's a bit stubborn sometimes. Mom is fine until she isn't. Either fairly healthy for a 82 year old or nearly dying in a hospital from a UTI that turned into a blood infection. She's fine now though. Got some other relatives up there that are in there 80s. So glad the retired sister is there to help. I'm looking to bail from Babylon DC at some point and move so I'm an hour or two away. Sis could use some help.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at March 08, 2025 01:06 AM (ntk8v)

269 Trouser snake - must see

https://tinyurl.com/2dbv9xfc

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 08, 2025 01:07 AM (2sg1c)

270 My Mom went into the hospital for a simple operation that wound up killing her. Sepsis took her.

It took the heart and will out of Dad, you could flat see it. They were married "Two days short of forever" we used to say. My brother and I followed suit, I can't conceive of being without my ginger and am sure he feels the same. And that, I think, will be enough on that subject.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at March 08, 2025 01:03 AM (hKoQL)

Thats what happened to my mom. Sepsis while in the hospital.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 08, 2025 01:08 AM (VwHCD)

271 Chilly night in the desert here tonight. I am going to crawl into bed and fire up the electric blanket. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 08, 2025 01:11 AM (8zz6B)

272 I don't want $5000 for everyone, just pay off the fkin debt.
Thought Covid payout was just adding to inflation which probably cost more than what we got since that.

Posted by: Skip at March 08, 2025 01:12 AM (fwDg9)

273 5k wouldn't last me 2 weeks. F it. Pay the debt!

Yes, I could surely use the money, not gonna lie. Guess I should've figured out some multi-million dollar grift while FJB & Co. were at the helm, huh?

Posted by: JQ at March 08, 2025 01:15 AM (rdVOm)

274 I regret voting for Trump.

Posted by: some random fuckface on twitter who everyone retweets at March 08, 2025 01:02 AM (Dxsnf)

I've read quite a few of you. Suprised the Dems still have money for 'influencers'.

Posted by: RickZ at March 08, 2025 01:20 AM (gKDq2)

275 Oh sure most can use money but it's get paid now and pay it back later in inflation

Posted by: Skip at March 08, 2025 01:20 AM (fwDg9)

276 155 Does anyone have recommendations on books re Soviet/Russian/Ukrainian history? Something evenhanded, and not too Noam Chomsky-ish leftist?

Posted by: ScaryMary

You've read Solzhenitsyn, and you've already received some other excellent reading suggestions, so I'd just like to recommend the 2019 movie "Mr. Jones." It is a factual recounting of the Welsh journalist Gareth Jones' unauthorized venture into 1933 Ukraine to investigate the rumors of man-made famine, and highlights the despicable attempts by the New York Times reporter Walter Duranty, among others, to utterly whitewash this horror in hopes of seeing totalitarian Communism succeed.

Grim, gritty film, superbly capturing the horror inflicted by Comrade Stalin.

Posted by: Sam Adams at March 08, 2025 01:21 AM (X+xvk)

277 I want to see some asset forfeiture from all the DC-related thieves!

And arrests, trials, convictions! Bleed it all back out of those MFers.

Posted by: JQ at March 08, 2025 01:22 AM (rdVOm)

278 Oh sure most can use money but it's get paid now and pay it back later in inflation
Posted by: Skip

You "delayed gratification" types and all your "success." Learn to live a little!

Posted by: a welfare queen with a stack of lottery scratch-offs at March 08, 2025 01:23 AM (DgGvY)

279 Bers, if you uncle is contemplating not driving at the age 91, I am impressed!!!

I think, that I will stop driving, way before then, but this teeny voice in my inner ear screams independence. I wont go down without a fight, at least until an airbag deploys.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at March 08, 2025 01:23 AM (0nHVk)

280 and highlights the despicable attempts by the New York Times reporter Walter Duranty, among others, to utterly whitewash this horror in hopes of seeing totalitarian Communism succeed.

Posted by: Sam Adams at March 08, 2025 01:21 AM (X+xvk)

The NYTimes still has not returned/disdavowed Duranty's Pulitzer for that "reporting," instead proudly keeping the award up on their office wall.

Fake news then, faker news now.

Posted by: RickZ at March 08, 2025 01:25 AM (gKDq2)

281 Posted by: some random fuckface on twitter who everyone retweets at March 08, 2025 01:02 AM (Dxsnf)

LOL. I obviously realize that you're having annoyed fun with irritated anti Trumpers on Twitter , but you may win the award for the longest nic I Ive seen here.

I am glad that except when things are quoted here I do not see things on Twitter.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2025 01:27 AM (BAwAE)

282 Well if they send you the money and you don't want it send it back. Seems pretty simple. Nothing to get mad about.

Posted by: Case at March 08, 2025 01:28 AM (xcRXq)

283
I really hate this "spring forward" shit.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 08, 2025 01:29 AM (Dxsnf)

284 I mostly avoided politics today except when I was on the early morning thread. It felt good.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2025 01:29 AM (BAwAE)

285 I have lived long and have mostly been proud of things, the stupid shit was at least not malicious. The best were in accord with the morals and values instilled in both us kids growing up, they're those scorned and ridiculed today by the leftwits. Our entire clan was reared thus and no one feels any need to apologize for any of it. We just keep on doing it that way.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at March 08, 2025 01:30 AM (hKoQL)

286
Maybe I'll set all the clocks ahead 1 hour now so by Monday I'm not still pissed off.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 08, 2025 01:30 AM (Dxsnf)

287 Posted by: Soothsayer at March 08, 2025 01:29

I was forgetting about that. I hate it as well, but thanks for the reminder. I will have to tell the church, although I think by now most people have cell phones which spring forward automatically .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2025 01:31 AM (BAwAE)

288 But Sooth won't you be setting yourself up for something odd today

Posted by: Skip at March 08, 2025 01:32 AM (fwDg9)

289 Most of the clocks here do it by themselves, the battery clock in kitchen is main one to change.

Posted by: Skip at March 08, 2025 01:34 AM (fwDg9)

290
Wacky clock hijinks, Skip? Perhaps.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 08, 2025 01:34 AM (Dxsnf)

291 Well if they send you the money and you don't want it send it back. Seems pretty simple. Nothing to get mad about.
Posted by: Case
----------

Mad? No. Disappointed? Yeah.
But few, if anyone, will turn down free $, right?

We've merely said that: sending everybody and their dog a 5k check *isn't going to help solve* the very situation that DOGE is (supposedly) trying to solve.

Posted by: JQ at March 08, 2025 01:37 AM (rdVOm)

292 Clocks?

Clocks?!

Fkkkkk... is *that* this weekend?

Ugh.

More to b!tch about, LOL

Posted by: JQ at March 08, 2025 01:39 AM (rdVOm)

293 I would rather the time stay right where it is today.

Posted by: Skip at March 08, 2025 01:42 AM (fwDg9)

294 Me too, Skip.

Posted by: JQ at March 08, 2025 01:47 AM (rdVOm)

295
Half-hour compromise would be fine with me. I just want this damn clock-changing bullshit to end. It's dumb.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 08, 2025 01:48 AM (Dxsnf)

296
Shit.

Those fucksticks in Alaska deal with all kinds of wacky "daylight" issues and don't see them constantly screwing with their clocks.

Posted by: Soothsayer at March 08, 2025 01:49 AM (Dxsnf)

297 Should try and sleep a bit more. This shift changing is detrimental to sleeping.

Posted by: Skip at March 08, 2025 01:50 AM (fwDg9)

298 I envy my friend in Arizona, they don't do this time traveling shit.

I must say though, this is all that I have ever known, an extra hour of daylight here represents the emergence from dormancy. I like the Spring, weird how not so many people had allergies then.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at March 08, 2025 01:51 AM (0nHVk)

299 If you know anybody who had young children they may enjoy this funny little Parents workout routine by actress Patricia Heaton. No need to read the description which detracts, IMO just scroll down to the video:

https://tinyurl.com/yr2f2z8c

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2025 01:51 AM (42Vb+)

300 Good luck, Skip. Constantly changing shifts are a b1tch...

Posted by: JQ at March 08, 2025 01:52 AM (rdVOm)

301 I think I need to cut down more on caffeine because waking up at 1:00 is the pits.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2025 01:56 AM (42Vb+)

302 Hi, Debby! Hope you're well & happy tonight

Posted by: JQ at March 08, 2025 01:57 AM (rdVOm)

303 @280 Rick Z,

The NYTimes still has not returned/disdavowed Duranty's Pulitzer for that "reporting," instead proudly keeping the award up on their office wall.

Fake news then, faker news now.

************************************

The depiction of Duranty in "Mr. Jones" is beyond disturbing. "Abject depravity" wouldn't begin to cover it. Dissolute, perverted, obscenely corrupt, utterly indifferent to genuine human suffering. The man was pigshit on skates. You couldn't evade his stench if you wanted to. He would fit right in on the editorial board of the New York Times today.

Posted by: Sam Adams at March 08, 2025 01:58 AM (X+xvk)

304 Thank you for that, Fen, my hubs would have relished the role of "My Baby" whilst I went shopping!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at March 08, 2025 01:58 AM (0nHVk)

305 LOL!!

Posted by: Time Lords at March 08, 2025 02:01 AM (ntk8v)

306 Sam Adams,

Thank you for that movie recommendation. I'll look out for it.

Posted by: RickZ at March 08, 2025 02:01 AM (gKDq2)

307 Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at March 08, 2025 01:58 AM (0nHVk)

You're welcome, Debbie. I always thought Patricia Heaton was funny and was glad when I learned that she was one of the more conservative actors around.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2025 02:04 AM (aKkAi)

308 JQ, I think that I am well, I am happy, this is a temporary condition with assistance from distillers of old! I sure do plan on still living life for a while.

This time of night I put my feet up, enjoy a scotch, and get a chance to chat with so many great people. It is my favorite time of day.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at March 08, 2025 02:05 AM (0nHVk)

309 LOL, Debby!

I enjoy the night crew chats also.

Posted by: JQ at March 08, 2025 02:07 AM (rdVOm)

310 I think I may use this prayer daily during Lent. It's the fully serenity prayer- written by a Christian pastor years ago. It often gets truncated and the truncated version is used in 12 step programs:

https://tinyurl.com/mua9fsb8

Good night or very early morning to folks!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 08, 2025 02:10 AM (42Vb+)

311 Our neighbors are so nice... their boys (ages 8 & 10) made little pizzas on the grill the other day and brought me my very own pepperoni one, in person. So cute and thoughtful!

Posted by: JQ at March 08, 2025 02:10 AM (rdVOm)

312 The trailer.

https://tinyurl.com/vuz3ffbf

Walter Duranty made a Saturday Night Pants-Free Ted Kennedy look like a portrait of dignity, sobriety and restraint.

Posted by: Sam Adams at March 08, 2025 02:14 AM (X+xvk)

313 If they didn't find out about our tax money being stolen by Washington insiders you would never have known the difference. I'm mad too. Everyone of the thieves should be tossed under the jail. But right now I'm not sure any of them will be held accountable. Let Washington just keep the money to "pay down the debt"? Like that's going to happen? These are the same people who took it in the first place. There are going to have to be laws put in place first so this can't happen again. These people will just come up with other ways to rip us off. I'm in no mood to trust these people until we see some real change in the way our tax money is being handled.

Posted by: Case at March 08, 2025 02:20 AM (xcRXq)

314 I really need to be working on an escape plan, I got a good look at my congressional delegation this week and I have not a single thing in common with these people, except that my grandkids are here.

Grandkids are forgiveness for all of your parenting sins.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at March 08, 2025 02:22 AM (0nHVk)

315 I really need to be working on an escape plan, I got a good look at my congressional delegation this week and I have not a single thing in common with these people, except that my grandkids are here.

Grandkids are forgiveness for all of your parenting sins.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at March 08, 2025 02:22 AM (0nHVk)

When you live in jersey you wonder if your congressional delegation is actually from this planet.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 08, 2025 02:33 AM (VwHCD)

316
Good night, all. I just woke up from a nap and read the conversation. Tough times some of us are having.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 08, 2025 02:43 AM (lCaJd)

317 Here in Texas, I am unfortunate enough to have John Cornyn as my RINO Senator.

And as the state of Texas voted overwhelmingly Republican in state races, our Bitch McConnell Wing in Austin has happily given half of the legislative committees over to the Democrats, because voting Conservative must always result in Democrats gaining power.

Posted by: Sam Adams at March 08, 2025 02:45 AM (X+xvk)

318 I'm of the mind that the "savings" should be in reduced taxes. Once you collect a big pile of OPM many people will find a use for it whether legitimate or not.

Posted by: pawn, RIP Vic at March 08, 2025 02:46 AM (QB+5g)

319 Well past this webworker's bedtime.

Couldn't decide which song to check out with tonight. Each has its merits, albeit quite distinct ones… Whaddaya think?

The Pussy cat song
https://youtu.be/mrGmYlZtNDg

Corazón
https://youtu.be/PjS9NS5s6q0

Heh.
G'nite, y'all. Enjoy the weekend.

Posted by: mindful webworker - I hate daylight slipshod time so much at March 08, 2025 02:48 AM (+QBnl)

320 Bers, I honestly think we are crazier, but I don't have the inside dope on Jersey politics, I know that you have lunatics too. Never been fond of Phil Murphy, is he a Boston export? I thought I saw him at Logan a few years back, he was an asshoe.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at March 08, 2025 02:51 AM (0nHVk)

321 @mindful webworker,

No self-muting, please. You people bring much joy.

Posted by: Sam Adams at March 08, 2025 02:51 AM (X+xvk)

322 Hubby will move to a different room next week, into "regular long-term care" and have a room mate. He's been in a private room for the last 6 weeks.

Hope he doesn't freak out & that he gets along with his new roomie!

Posted by: JQ -- *no butter knife* at March 08, 2025 02:53 AM (rdVOm)

323 Hubby will move to a different room next week, into "regular long-term care" and have a room mate. He's been in a private room for the last 6 weeks.

JQ - hope you are well and getting some better sleep.

The reason I asked about a dietician at your husband's facility is: Asking them about a diet that could reduce the sources of the amonia (sp?). Eliminate seed oils, go vegetarian, increase dietary fiber ... reduce dietary fiber.

You mentioned some drugs have become less effective.

Posted by: Adriane the Melancholy Critic . . . at March 08, 2025 03:11 AM (tcomi)

324 JQ, it's a toss-up, Hubs got along with everybody, my brother not so much.

All of the women at hub's home loved him. He was a most loveable guy.

Our last picture together is about a month before he died, it wasn't US but it was a very realistic portrait of our affection for one another. I hate the picture of me, but I love the picture of him.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at March 08, 2025 03:14 AM (0nHVk)

325 Hi, Adriane!

Hubs needs the protein to heal from hip break... plus, he says vegetarian diet is right out. My carnivorous dude!

It's the beginning of his final decline, now. There's nothing left to do but try to comfort him & make the most of his remaining time. Could be weeks, months, or maybe a year? (More?)

He's started anti-depressant med, and will possibly add anti-anxiety med later.

I've asked about hospice/palliative care, waiting for assessment.

Posted by: JQ -- *no butter knife* at March 08, 2025 03:24 AM (rdVOm)

326 I am off to bed Horde, JQ, I hope that I get to meet you someday.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at March 08, 2025 03:36 AM (0nHVk)

327 Good night, Debby. <3

Posted by: JQ -- *no butter knife* at March 08, 2025 03:38 AM (rdVOm)

328 Pixy's up.

Posted by: Nazdar at March 08, 2025 04:02 AM (NcvvS)

329 225 For the Red Sea F-18 shoot-down, also see this article at Real Clear Defense. By a former Ticonderoga class cruiser skipper, I believe.

https://tinyurl.com/2dvrx26n

Excellent link, rhomboid. Thanks for posting.

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