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Saturday Morning Open Thread
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Fresh.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 10:51 AM (ExV1e)
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I saw Butthole Laser open for Grail Knights at Kulturzentrum Faust 2011.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 01, 2025 10:52 AM (lhenN)
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Smells Like Teen spirit.
Posted by: Czech Chick at March 01, 2025 10:53 AM (vK/Ja)
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Smells Like Teen spirit.
Posted by: Czech Chick at March 01, 2025 10:53 AM (vK/Ja)
So, the inside of a Hot Topic? Or is that not a thing anymore?
Posted by: Czech Chick at March 01, 2025 10:53 AM (vK/Ja)
So, the inside of a Hot Topic? Or is that not a thing anymore?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 10:55 AM (ExV1e)
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Rogan also has a new Elon interview up.
Posted by: lin-duh at March 01, 2025 10:55 AM (VCgbV)
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Zelenzky missed lunch.
Posted by: Eromero at March 01, 2025 10:55 AM (LHPAg)
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 10:55 AM (lH8E4)
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Willowed: Euroland was doing this even in the era of the Soviet Union and one of the reasons that Lenin's aphorism that capitalists will sell the rope to be hung with. Basically they have destroyed their internal economies with their welfare states and thus try to grab every nickel externally that they can. That is regardless of their preening self regard and obnoxious moral pronouncements while trading with every despotic regime under the sun.
NATO is dead, bring the troops back home.
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 10:46 AM (ctrM5)
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To be fair, Cold War NATO was far more responsible. Countries with much smaller economies and populations were able to field pretty massive forces by today's standards, which is so infuriating. They took ALL of the peace dividend, and expect us to keep their borders secure.
The Army need only about 100,000 active duty soldiers, mostly consisting of support/training garrison units and a small expeditionary corps. Buff up the reserves to 500,000, which should be easy without stupid zombie overseas rotations disrupting work and family life.
NATO is dead, bring the troops back home.
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 10:46 AM (ctrM5)
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To be fair, Cold War NATO was far more responsible. Countries with much smaller economies and populations were able to field pretty massive forces by today's standards, which is so infuriating. They took ALL of the peace dividend, and expect us to keep their borders secure.
The Army need only about 100,000 active duty soldiers, mostly consisting of support/training garrison units and a small expeditionary corps. Buff up the reserves to 500,000, which should be easy without stupid zombie overseas rotations disrupting work and family life.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 01, 2025 10:56 AM (ZOv7s)
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Honestly, if we go to a two-tier reserve system, we could probably have 1 million troops there, which would be a strong deterrent to anyone wanting to start something close to home.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 01, 2025 10:57 AM (ZOv7s)
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Rogan also has a new Elon interview up.
Posted by: lin-duh at March 01, 2025 10:55 AM (VCgbV)
I listened to most of it. Elon knows things he's not saying.
What's always funny though, is when Rogan has someone on who is CLEARLY much smarter than him, he just sounds like a thirteen year old boy who sees boobies for the first time.
"Whoa, are you f'n kidding me??? That's craaaaaazy!!"
Posted by: lin-duh at March 01, 2025 10:55 AM (VCgbV)
I listened to most of it. Elon knows things he's not saying.
What's always funny though, is when Rogan has someone on who is CLEARLY much smarter than him, he just sounds like a thirteen year old boy who sees boobies for the first time.
"Whoa, are you f'n kidding me??? That's craaaaaazy!!"
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 10:57 AM (lH8E4)
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Ok, let's get to it.
Break open that new case of Chardonnay.
You gotta start in the morning if you wanna drink all day.
Break open that new case of Chardonnay.
You gotta start in the morning if you wanna drink all day.
Posted by: Old Lady Emhoff at March 01, 2025 10:58 AM (dg+HA)
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On Friday, my doctor confirmed to me that I have diabetes. I know I was never the thinnest guy, but it was still demoralizing. I don't know why I'm posting here about it, but I'm feeling dazed and like I need to confide it somewhere.
Posted by: Elric Blade
When I was diagnosed with type II diabetes ten plus years ago, my doctor told me my fate was sealed; I would die of a heart attack. Yeah, maybe, but if you've got to have an incurable fatal disease, diabetes is the one to have. I was insulin dependent for a while but worked hard and got off the I. Even if you are insulin dependent, what with insulin pens, even that is not terrible.
P.S. I can think of worse ways to go than a heart attack.
Posted by: Elric Blade
When I was diagnosed with type II diabetes ten plus years ago, my doctor told me my fate was sealed; I would die of a heart attack. Yeah, maybe, but if you've got to have an incurable fatal disease, diabetes is the one to have. I was insulin dependent for a while but worked hard and got off the I. Even if you are insulin dependent, what with insulin pens, even that is not terrible.
P.S. I can think of worse ways to go than a heart attack.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at March 01, 2025 10:58 AM (L/fGl)
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I totally agree AH. The Army needs to revert back to a cadre and reserve system which is much more affordable as personnel costs are a major component of defense spending. Given the risks to tanks, etc. from a drone filled battlefield, it makes more sense to actually seriously reconsider army weapons procurement, training, and strategies in light of what is going on in Ukraine.
It is far easier to build up an army given the time afforded to us by oceans than the technical services like the Air Force, Space Force, and Navy.
Posted by: whig
It is far easier to build up an army given the time afforded to us by oceans than the technical services like the Air Force, Space Force, and Navy.
Posted by: whig
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 11:00 AM (ctrM5)
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If you didn't see the entire meeting yesterday with DJT and Ukraine's dictator here it is. And I suggest you watch the entire thing. Quite amazing to have a POTUS who is not suffering from Dementia and stands up for life.
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What I genuinely appreciate about this is that Trump had this out, in front of the cameras. I think we've been conditioned to believe politicians are supposed to make deals behind closed doors, then come out and smile and wave and shake hands, even if the other person is their mortal enemy.
No, this cheap little jackhole has been play acting like he's a world leader for 3 years now, and every politician before now has treated him like a dignitary.
He's not. He's a guy who is play acting at being President of a third world shithole country, and he should be treated as such.
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What I genuinely appreciate about this is that Trump had this out, in front of the cameras. I think we've been conditioned to believe politicians are supposed to make deals behind closed doors, then come out and smile and wave and shake hands, even if the other person is their mortal enemy.
No, this cheap little jackhole has been play acting like he's a world leader for 3 years now, and every politician before now has treated him like a dignitary.
He's not. He's a guy who is play acting at being President of a third world shithole country, and he should be treated as such.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:01 AM (lH8E4)
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Zelenzky missed lunch.
A few hours ago in a bunch of tweets on @zelenskyyua:
"We are ready to sign the minerals agreement, and it will be the first step toward security guarantees."
A few hours ago in a bunch of tweets on @zelenskyyua:
"We are ready to sign the minerals agreement, and it will be the first step toward security guarantees."
Posted by: t-bird at March 01, 2025 11:01 AM (yZv1m)
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The NYT ( No; I don't read it. I sometimes look at the front page headline) says that Zelensky was "scolded" by Trump and Vance. It makes it sound as if Zelensky is a child. He's actually 47. If he acts like a rude jacka$$ is somebody's else's he probably needs to be scolded.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 01, 2025 11:03 AM (ZdCkS)
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9 Honestly, if we go to a two-tier reserve system, we could probably have 1 million troops there, which would be a strong deterrent to anyone wanting to start something close to home.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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Agree. For a long time prior to WWII and the ensuing Cold War, it was assumed that the Army was only to be used in the case of direct attacks on the US not as an object to send abroad. Marines were the expeditionary force which is why from Tripoli during the Barbary Pirates to the Banana Republics, they were the President's ready response force abroad.
Framers also disliked large standing armies as typically they get employed in ways destructive to a country or even to liberty inside a country itself.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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Agree. For a long time prior to WWII and the ensuing Cold War, it was assumed that the Army was only to be used in the case of direct attacks on the US not as an object to send abroad. Marines were the expeditionary force which is why from Tripoli during the Barbary Pirates to the Banana Republics, they were the President's ready response force abroad.
Framers also disliked large standing armies as typically they get employed in ways destructive to a country or even to liberty inside a country itself.
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 11:04 AM (ctrM5)
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When I was diagnosed with type II diabetes ten plus years ago, my doctor told me my fate was sealed; I would die of a heart attack. Yeah, maybe, but if you've got to have an incurable fatal disease, diabetes is the one to have. I was insulin dependent for a while but worked hard and got off the I. Even if you are insulin dependent, what with insulin pens, even that is not terrible.
P.S. I can think of worse ways to go than a heart attack.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at March 01, 2025 10:58 AM (L/fGl)
My 'primary provider' said I was pre-diabetic, and wanted to put me on metformin. I just changed my lifestyle and my numbers are right down the middle on most labs.
P.S. I can think of worse ways to go than a heart attack.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at March 01, 2025 10:58 AM (L/fGl)
My 'primary provider' said I was pre-diabetic, and wanted to put me on metformin. I just changed my lifestyle and my numbers are right down the middle on most labs.
Posted by: Eromero at March 01, 2025 11:04 AM (LHPAg)
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I totally agree AH. The Army needs to revert back to a cadre and reserve system which is much more affordable as personnel costs are a major component of defense spending. Given the risks to tanks, etc. from a drone filled battlefield, it makes more sense to actually seriously reconsider army weapons procurement, training, and strategies in light of what is going on in Ukraine.
It is far easier to build up an army given the time afforded to us by oceans than the technical services like the Air Force, Space Force, and Navy.
Posted by: whig
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 11:00 AM (ctrM5)
Like so many other orgs, the military has too many chiefs. All those four star popinjays, with their salads on their chests... none of them should hold a rank above an O5.
Unless we get invaded, then we'll let some of them put more baubles on their shoulders.
It is far easier to build up an army given the time afforded to us by oceans than the technical services like the Air Force, Space Force, and Navy.
Posted by: whig
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 11:00 AM (ctrM5)
Like so many other orgs, the military has too many chiefs. All those four star popinjays, with their salads on their chests... none of them should hold a rank above an O5.
Unless we get invaded, then we'll let some of them put more baubles on their shoulders.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:05 AM (pM0Eq)
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Meant "in somebody else's house."
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 01, 2025 11:05 AM (ZdCkS)
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Hey, that big rock is on fire!
Posted by: Weasel at March 01, 2025 11:05 AM (KVm/I)
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It makes it sound as if Zelensky is a child. He's actually 47.
He acts like the top 3rd-grader who has wandered into the teacher's lounge and thinks he belongs there.
He acts like the top 3rd-grader who has wandered into the teacher's lounge and thinks he belongs there.
Posted by: t-bird at March 01, 2025 11:05 AM (4Nep/)
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How did the Z-man get another "y" on the end of his name?
And whatever happened to chicken Kiev?
And whatever happened to chicken Kiev?
Posted by: It'll always be Burma to me at March 01, 2025 11:06 AM (dg+HA)
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Yes indeed. Big question is what do the demoncrats think? Oh that's right they set that whole sham up. Sad sacks of crap that they are.
Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at March 01, 2025 11:06 AM (f6Zy5)
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A few hours ago in a bunch of tweets on @zelenskyyua:
"We are ready to sign the minerals agreement, and it will be the first step toward security guarantees."
Posted by: t-bird at March 01, 2025 11:01 AM (yZv1m)
Obviously Trump's response should be:
I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.
"We are ready to sign the minerals agreement, and it will be the first step toward security guarantees."
Posted by: t-bird at March 01, 2025 11:01 AM (yZv1m)
Obviously Trump's response should be:
I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:08 AM (lH8E4)
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ey, that big rock is on fire!
Isn't MisHum on of our painters? I blew it up to see if it was one of his. It says "photo" in the url, but maybe he's being modest.
Isn't MisHum on of our painters? I blew it up to see if it was one of his. It says "photo" in the url, but maybe he's being modest.
Posted by: t-bird at March 01, 2025 11:08 AM (bkfCY)
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I'll form my opinion after I hear what Tay-Tay thinks.
Posted by: Suburban wine mom at March 01, 2025 11:09 AM (dg+HA)
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An Italian living in England is a favorite blogger of mine.
He had this to say on the meeting. It cleared a few things up for me.
https://tinyurl.com/49vtymnm
The Ukrainian ambassador was actually crying.
He had this to say on the meeting. It cleared a few things up for me.
https://tinyurl.com/49vtymnm
The Ukrainian ambassador was actually crying.
Posted by: sal at March 01, 2025 11:09 AM (f+FmA)
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@Liz_Cheney Generations of American patriots, from our revolution onward, have fought for the principles Zelenskyy is risking his life to defend. But today, Donald Trump and JD Vance attacked Zelenskyy and pressured him to surrender the freedom of his people to the KGB war criminal who invaded Ukraine. History will remember this day— when an American President and Vice President abandoned all we stand for.
Liz Cheney's tweet is being read aloud on news radio and TV all over the world. It is definitely newsworthy. Some are actually calling it: "A day that will live in Infamy".
You can bet Putin put Trump and JDVance up to this, and expected them to bully and trash Zellenski on National TV. Instead, Zellinski trashed THEM!
News agencies around the world are cheering this. That REALLY has to piss off Trump and Putin, and especially Musk.
DU should at least disallow embedding twitter content if they don''t want to ban linking to it altogether, as they ought to. Fuck Musk!
The MAGA "reporter" that gigged Z about whether he "owns a suit" is MTG's boytoy, in case you needed further reason to question his judgement, sanity or taste
Liz Cheney's tweet is being read aloud on news radio and TV all over the world. It is definitely newsworthy. Some are actually calling it: "A day that will live in Infamy".
You can bet Putin put Trump and JDVance up to this, and expected them to bully and trash Zellenski on National TV. Instead, Zellinski trashed THEM!
News agencies around the world are cheering this. That REALLY has to piss off Trump and Putin, and especially Musk.
DU should at least disallow embedding twitter content if they don''t want to ban linking to it altogether, as they ought to. Fuck Musk!
The MAGA "reporter" that gigged Z about whether he "owns a suit" is MTG's boytoy, in case you needed further reason to question his judgement, sanity or taste
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at March 01, 2025 11:09 AM (JCZqz)
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Framers also disliked large standing armies as typically they get employed in ways destructive to a country or even to liberty inside a country itself.
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 11:04 AM (ctrM5)“
It took English speaking peoples a long time to forget the hard lesson they learned from Cromwell. If you allow the Army to become more powerful than any other element of society, that Army will quickly realize it can run things without worrying what anyone else thinks about it.
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 11:04 AM (ctrM5)“
It took English speaking peoples a long time to forget the hard lesson they learned from Cromwell. If you allow the Army to become more powerful than any other element of society, that Army will quickly realize it can run things without worrying what anyone else thinks about it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 01, 2025 11:09 AM (SSRw1)
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15 Zelenzky missed lunch.
A few hours ago in a bunch of tweets on @zelenskyyua:
"We are ready to sign the minerals agreement, and it will be the first step toward security guarantees."
Posted by: t-bird
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Frankly, since Putin offered a similar agreement, I would rather the US deal with him on rare earth minerals. Ukrainians and their CIA/AID uniparty handlers need to be out in the cold going forward. We already had a sham impeachment from those clowns and that distracted the president/natsec community during a crucial time when Covid was brewing in China.
We do not need those assholes and Europe, particular Germany, France, and UK thoroughly deserve those despicable corrupt clowns. Our Uniparty War Forever types like the former Sec Defs, Bolton, Rice, Nuland, Graham, Kerry, Blinken, Kagan (her husband), etc. need to be air dropped over Ukraine at 10,000 ft by a C-130. If they go willingly, they get a parachute.
A few hours ago in a bunch of tweets on @zelenskyyua:
"We are ready to sign the minerals agreement, and it will be the first step toward security guarantees."
Posted by: t-bird
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Frankly, since Putin offered a similar agreement, I would rather the US deal with him on rare earth minerals. Ukrainians and their CIA/AID uniparty handlers need to be out in the cold going forward. We already had a sham impeachment from those clowns and that distracted the president/natsec community during a crucial time when Covid was brewing in China.
We do not need those assholes and Europe, particular Germany, France, and UK thoroughly deserve those despicable corrupt clowns. Our Uniparty War Forever types like the former Sec Defs, Bolton, Rice, Nuland, Graham, Kerry, Blinken, Kagan (her husband), etc. need to be air dropped over Ukraine at 10,000 ft by a C-130. If they go willingly, they get a parachute.
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 11:09 AM (ctrM5)
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Richard Grenell retweeted that Blinken, Nuland, Vindman, and Rice advised Zelensky to reject the mineral agreement, in violation of the Logan Act.
https://tinyurl.com/yckzs245
https://tinyurl.com/yckzs245
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 01, 2025 11:10 AM (paSBy)
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It makes it sound as if Zelensky is a child. He's actually 47.
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He acts like the top 3rd-grader who has wandered into the teacher's lounge and thinks he belongs there.
Posted by: t-bird at March 01, 2025 11:05 AM (4Nep/)
In the aughts, we had Cindy Sheehan. In the teens we had Greta Thunkhead.
Zelensky is the 20s Sheehan/Greta.
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He acts like the top 3rd-grader who has wandered into the teacher's lounge and thinks he belongs there.
Posted by: t-bird at March 01, 2025 11:05 AM (4Nep/)
In the aughts, we had Cindy Sheehan. In the teens we had Greta Thunkhead.
Zelensky is the 20s Sheehan/Greta.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:10 AM (lH8E4)
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I know some of y'all don't want to hear this, but Boeing has fucked up again:
"Air Force will inspect its entire fleet of 89 KC-46A Pegasus aerial refueling tankers after cracks were found on two of the four new planes set to be sent to the Military Delivery Center"
twz.com/air/ cracks-in-kc-46-pegusus-tankers-halt-all-deliveries
"Air Force will inspect its entire fleet of 89 KC-46A Pegasus aerial refueling tankers after cracks were found on two of the four new planes set to be sent to the Military Delivery Center"
twz.com/air/ cracks-in-kc-46-pegusus-tankers-halt-all-deliveries
Posted by: gKWVE at March 01, 2025 11:10 AM (byeIv)
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Security guarantees?
My ass. Those shits have broken every treaty signed with Russia. If we give any guarantees, they should be along the lines of "We'll pay you X amount for each ton of Y."
I also believe it's the Ukes who flew the drone into the nuke plant.
My ass. Those shits have broken every treaty signed with Russia. If we give any guarantees, they should be along the lines of "We'll pay you X amount for each ton of Y."
I also believe it's the Ukes who flew the drone into the nuke plant.
Posted by: MkY at March 01, 2025 11:11 AM (cPGH3)
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Richard Grenell retweeted that Blinken, Nuland, Vindman, and Rice advised Zelensky to reject the mineral agreement, in violation of the Logan Act.
https://tinyurl.com/yckzs245
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 01, 2025 11:10 AM (paSBy)
So prosecute them. Enough with the twitter spats.
https://tinyurl.com/yckzs245
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 01, 2025 11:10 AM (paSBy)
So prosecute them. Enough with the twitter spats.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:11 AM (lH8E4)
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"We are ready to sign the minerals agreement, and it will be the first step toward security guarantees."
That's Bernard Posner choosing to drive his Corvette into the lake rather than have his elbow dislocated.
That's Bernard Posner choosing to drive his Corvette into the lake rather than have his elbow dislocated.
Posted by: one hour sober at March 01, 2025 11:11 AM (Y1sOo)
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What's Vindman even doing outside Leavenworth?
Posted by: gKWVE at March 01, 2025 11:12 AM (byeIv)
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It took English speaking peoples a long time to forget the hard lesson they learned from Cromwell. If you allow the Army to become more powerful than any other element of society, that Army will quickly realize it can run things without worrying what anyone else thinks about it.
Posted by: Tom Servo
True but it also gives leaders with an itch for glory to use the tool of an army that they have whether or not it is appropriate to do so. If, for example, neither France, Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Russia had no large standing armies at the onset of WWI, it would have given a longer time to avoid that monstrous war. Instead, the war was driven by the need to mobilize and field these large armies to invade before their enemies could do the same.
Posted by: Tom Servo
True but it also gives leaders with an itch for glory to use the tool of an army that they have whether or not it is appropriate to do so. If, for example, neither France, Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Russia had no large standing armies at the onset of WWI, it would have given a longer time to avoid that monstrous war. Instead, the war was driven by the need to mobilize and field these large armies to invade before their enemies could do the same.
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 11:12 AM (ctrM5)
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Another aspect of the situation with Z-man, Ukraine and our political betters is that a huge grifting revenue stream is going to dry up. There's no way the 100's of billions of dollars we've "sent" to Ukraine didn't end up in some Congressional pockets. And lobbyists. And contractors.
The wailing and hand wringing from them is only starting.
The wailing and hand wringing from them is only starting.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 01, 2025 11:12 AM (Q4IgG)
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When I was diagnosed with type II diabetes ten plus years ago, my doctor told me my fate was sealed; I would die of a heart attack.
Wow. I would run.
Wow. I would run.
Posted by: t-bird at March 01, 2025 11:13 AM (GCKiK)
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34 I know some of y'all don't want to hear this, but Boeing has fucked up again:
"Air Force will inspect its entire fleet of 89 KC-46A Pegasus aerial refueling tankers after cracks were found on two of the four new planes set to be sent to the Military Delivery Center"
twz.com/air/ cracks-in-kc-46-pegusus-tankers-halt-all-deliveries
Posted by: gKWVE
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Of course. Boeing's management for the last twenty years seriously needs to be removed and impoverished themselves for what they did to that fine company of yesteryear.
"Air Force will inspect its entire fleet of 89 KC-46A Pegasus aerial refueling tankers after cracks were found on two of the four new planes set to be sent to the Military Delivery Center"
twz.com/air/ cracks-in-kc-46-pegusus-tankers-halt-all-deliveries
Posted by: gKWVE
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Of course. Boeing's management for the last twenty years seriously needs to be removed and impoverished themselves for what they did to that fine company of yesteryear.
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 11:14 AM (ctrM5)
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Wow. I would run.
Posted by: t-bird at March 01, 2025 11:13 AM (GCKiK)
And die of a heart attack??
No thanks!
Posted by: t-bird at March 01, 2025 11:13 AM (GCKiK)
And die of a heart attack??
No thanks!
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:14 AM (lH8E4)
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40 Another aspect of the situation with Z-man, Ukraine and our political betters is that a huge grifting revenue stream is going to dry up. There's no way the 100's of billions of dollars we've "sent" to Ukraine didn't end up in some Congressional pockets. And lobbyists. And contractors.
The wailing and hand wringing from them is only starting.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Wait until the audit is finished by DOGE and many of them have to hire criminal attorneys.
The wailing and hand wringing from them is only starting.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Wait until the audit is finished by DOGE and many of them have to hire criminal attorneys.
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 11:15 AM (ctrM5)
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Wow. I would run.
Posted by: t-bird at March 01, 2025 11:13 AM (GCKiK)
And die of a heart attack??
No thanks!
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:14 AM (lH8E4)
Besides, if you go running there's a greater chance a piano will fall out of the sky and land on your head.
But at least you won't have died of a heart attack.
So there, you were wrong, doc.
Posted by: t-bird at March 01, 2025 11:13 AM (GCKiK)
And die of a heart attack??
No thanks!
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:14 AM (lH8E4)
Besides, if you go running there's a greater chance a piano will fall out of the sky and land on your head.
But at least you won't have died of a heart attack.
So there, you were wrong, doc.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:15 AM (NrEAT)
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I had a teen girl crush on Gordon Lightfoot- always nice to hear some of his work.
I still think "Song for a Winter's Night" is one of the 10 best love songs ever written.
I still think "Song for a Winter's Night" is one of the 10 best love songs ever written.
Posted by: sal at March 01, 2025 11:16 AM (f+FmA)
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(NrEAT)
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That's one way to stave off diabetes and heart attacks.
You can die like Hack Man's dog instead.
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That's one way to stave off diabetes and heart attacks.
You can die like Hack Man's dog instead.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:16 AM (NrEAT)
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38 What's Vindman even doing outside Leavenworth?
Posted by: gKWVE
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I like the way you think. He should be clipping grass with a nail clipper around his prison barrack.
Posted by: gKWVE
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I like the way you think. He should be clipping grass with a nail clipper around his prison barrack.
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 11:16 AM (ctrM5)
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The Army needs to revert back to a cadre and reserve system which is much more affordable as personnel costs are a major component of defense spending.
This was actually a major discussion from 2006-2011 or so. The Reserve component (National Guard and Reserves) had previously been considered strategic reserves, only called up when major wars occurred. This kept them cheaper, but they weren't as capable, with major issue during Desert Storm and the early days of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Now, they're considered part of the "operational" force, routinely going on deployments even today to Poland, Kosovo, the Middle East, Africa, etc. It keeps the service member skills much sharper, the units are better equipped and readiness is routinely tested and proven. But...it's more expensive, and causes hardship for employers, families, and recruiting.
Reserve Senior Leaders don't want to go back to the "strategic reserve" model, as it makes them even more "second-class soldiers" than they already are. The active component appreciates the reduced deployment tempo they get.
This was actually a major discussion from 2006-2011 or so. The Reserve component (National Guard and Reserves) had previously been considered strategic reserves, only called up when major wars occurred. This kept them cheaper, but they weren't as capable, with major issue during Desert Storm and the early days of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Now, they're considered part of the "operational" force, routinely going on deployments even today to Poland, Kosovo, the Middle East, Africa, etc. It keeps the service member skills much sharper, the units are better equipped and readiness is routinely tested and proven. But...it's more expensive, and causes hardship for employers, families, and recruiting.
Reserve Senior Leaders don't want to go back to the "strategic reserve" model, as it makes them even more "second-class soldiers" than they already are. The active component appreciates the reduced deployment tempo they get.
Posted by: Military Moron at March 01, 2025 11:17 AM (JCZqz)
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I'm sure Zelensky was told that Trump is an idiot and a clown, so just go in and demand whatever you want, he'll double it.
Which shows the disadvantage of getting all your information from the left.
Which shows the disadvantage of getting all your information from the left.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 01, 2025 11:17 AM (CHHv1)
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A few hours ago in a bunch of tweets on @zelenskyyua:
"We are ready to sign the minerals agreement, and it will be the first step toward security guarantees."
Posted by: t-bird at March 01, 2025 11:01 AM (yZv1m)
Obviously Trump's response should be:
I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.
Posted by: BurtTC
I heard Musk is Luke Skywalker's father.
"We are ready to sign the minerals agreement, and it will be the first step toward security guarantees."
Posted by: t-bird at March 01, 2025 11:01 AM (yZv1m)
Obviously Trump's response should be:
I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.
Posted by: BurtTC
I heard Musk is Luke Skywalker's father.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at March 01, 2025 11:18 AM (L/fGl)
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>>Richard Grenell retweeted that Blinken, Nuland, Vindman, and Rice advised Zelensky to reject the mineral agreement, in violation of the Logan Act.
If anyone is still in doubt why Putin invaded the reaction from the neocon wing should clear it up.
If anyone is still in doubt why Putin invaded the reaction from the neocon wing should clear it up.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2025 11:18 AM (LkLld)
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I'm sure Zelensky was told that Trump is an idiot and a clown, so just go in and demand whatever you want, he'll double it.
Which shows the disadvantage of getting all your information from the left.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 01, 2025 11:17 AM (CHHv1)
Joy Ried and Rachel Madcow told him Trump was just like Hitler, and Zima said "Oh boy, most of my advisors are Nazis, this'll be great!"
Which shows the disadvantage of getting all your information from the left.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 01, 2025 11:17 AM (CHHv1)
Joy Ried and Rachel Madcow told him Trump was just like Hitler, and Zima said "Oh boy, most of my advisors are Nazis, this'll be great!"
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:19 AM (NrEAT)
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I'm beginning to think Trump should cancel the Air Force One contract with Boeing and give it to Airbus.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 01, 2025 11:19 AM (paSBy)
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Hey, I have a coffee question and wasn't up early enough to get it on the the coffee/prayer thread.
I have a Ninja drip coffee maker with settings for classic and rich drips, and I can choose the amount from 6 oz to 12.
I like to make lattes, but of course I can't get anything near an espresso out of this machine.
My question is -- I bought some espresso beans on clearance the other day. Would I be able to get a decent strong coffee that approximates espresso using those beans?
Anybody ever brew espresso beans in a drip maker?
I have a Ninja drip coffee maker with settings for classic and rich drips, and I can choose the amount from 6 oz to 12.
I like to make lattes, but of course I can't get anything near an espresso out of this machine.
My question is -- I bought some espresso beans on clearance the other day. Would I be able to get a decent strong coffee that approximates espresso using those beans?
Anybody ever brew espresso beans in a drip maker?
Posted by: TecumsehTea at March 01, 2025 11:19 AM (Eo96p)
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You can bet Putin put Trump and JDVance up to this, and expected them to bully and trash Zellenski on National TV. Instead, Zellinski trashed THEM!
Same world, different universe.
Same world, different universe.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at March 01, 2025 11:20 AM (NuKV1)
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I heard Musk is Luke Skywalker's father.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at March 01, 2025 11:18 AM (L/fGl)
Pull your pants up, Luke.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at March 01, 2025 11:18 AM (L/fGl)
Pull your pants up, Luke.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:20 AM (NrEAT)
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36 Richard Grenell retweeted that Blinken, Nuland, Vindman, and Rice advised Zelensky to reject the mineral agreement, in violation of the Logan Act.
https://tinyurl.com/yckzs245
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 01, 2025 11:10 AM (paSBy)
So prosecute them. Enough with the twitter spats.
Posted by: BurtTC
Eh, investigate them just like they did with Trump, all their comms seized including using the multiple hops rules bringing in their whole network, bank records seized, panty drawers invaded by middle of the night raids of their homes, and so on.
Hire a special counsel with a vendetta who was someone from a country that Nuland shat upon with her color revolution mania.
Then bankrupt them by civil and criminal actions. They set the rules and sowed the wind. Now let them reap the whirlwind.
https://tinyurl.com/yckzs245
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 01, 2025 11:10 AM (paSBy)
So prosecute them. Enough with the twitter spats.
Posted by: BurtTC
Eh, investigate them just like they did with Trump, all their comms seized including using the multiple hops rules bringing in their whole network, bank records seized, panty drawers invaded by middle of the night raids of their homes, and so on.
Hire a special counsel with a vendetta who was someone from a country that Nuland shat upon with her color revolution mania.
Then bankrupt them by civil and criminal actions. They set the rules and sowed the wind. Now let them reap the whirlwind.
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 11:20 AM (ctrM5)
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Mad house here at work all morning, some could be my no sleep but getting somewhere near the goal for today
Posted by: Skip at March 01, 2025 11:20 AM (hdURZ)
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>>>An Italian living in England is a favorite blogger of mine.
He had this to say on the meeting. It cleared a few things up for me.
https://tinyurl.com/49vtymnm
Given the reputation of Ukraine and much of Eastern Europe in general, I can't say I'd be surprised if it turns out Zelensky's a coke fiend. But it could be just as easily attributable to the ego-stroking he's received from virtually every Western politician and media pundit over the last three years. Of course he'd go in there thinking he could set the tone.
He had this to say on the meeting. It cleared a few things up for me.
https://tinyurl.com/49vtymnm
Given the reputation of Ukraine and much of Eastern Europe in general, I can't say I'd be surprised if it turns out Zelensky's a coke fiend. But it could be just as easily attributable to the ego-stroking he's received from virtually every Western politician and media pundit over the last three years. Of course he'd go in there thinking he could set the tone.
Posted by: Dr. T at March 01, 2025 11:21 AM (lHPJf)
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56 You can bet Putin put Trump and JDVance up to this, and expected them to bully and trash Zellenski on National TV. Instead, Zellinski trashed THEM!
Same world, different universe.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik
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Their universe is imaginary and exists only in their heads. That is why they are so gullible as to believe one can have a choice of 37 genders and other ridiculous notions.
Same world, different universe.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik
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Their universe is imaginary and exists only in their heads. That is why they are so gullible as to believe one can have a choice of 37 genders and other ridiculous notions.
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 11:21 AM (ctrM5)
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Less than 10 years ago, my (Then) Navy son told me Boeing delivered tankers with debris in the fuel tanks. Should have shorted it then.
Debris was tools, work gloves, you name it.
Debris was tools, work gloves, you name it.
Posted by: MkY at March 01, 2025 11:21 AM (cPGH3)
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Then bankrupt them by civil and criminal actions. They set the rules and sowed the wind. Now let them reap the whirlwind.
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 11:20 AM (ctrM5)
I'm not a lawyer, that's what I meant.
I could have said "string 'em up," and that would have been the same thing.
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 11:20 AM (ctrM5)
I'm not a lawyer, that's what I meant.
I could have said "string 'em up," and that would have been the same thing.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:22 AM (NrEAT)
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Besides, if you go running there's a greater chance a piano will fall out of the sky and land on your head.
But at least you won't have died of a heart attack.
So there, you were wrong, doc.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:15 AM (NrEAT)
I ran 10 miles this morning, my usual Saturday morning distance. I’m over 29 so I’m slow anymore, but it was sunny and crisp and beautiful on the park paths here in DFW. No pianos!
But at least you won't have died of a heart attack.
So there, you were wrong, doc.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:15 AM (NrEAT)
I ran 10 miles this morning, my usual Saturday morning distance. I’m over 29 so I’m slow anymore, but it was sunny and crisp and beautiful on the park paths here in DFW. No pianos!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 01, 2025 11:22 AM (i5Vkf)
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If he acts like a rude jacka$$ is somebody's else's he probably needs to be scolded.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 01, 2025 11:03 AM (ZdCkS)
For the last three years he's been War Greta. No one told him that the script had changed and he's not bright enough to figure it out for himself.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 01, 2025 11:03 AM (ZdCkS)
For the last three years he's been War Greta. No one told him that the script had changed and he's not bright enough to figure it out for himself.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 11:22 AM (ExV1e)
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Posted by: sal at March 01, 2025 11:09 AM (f+FmA)
Thanks. I hadn't considered the idea that Zelensky was high on coke.
Thanks. I hadn't considered the idea that Zelensky was high on coke.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 01, 2025 11:22 AM (OIqjm)
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"We are ready to sign the minerals agreement, and it will be the first step toward security guarantees."
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At this point he's like Lucy holding the football for Charlie Brown. And Trump ain't no Charlie Brown.
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At this point he's like Lucy holding the football for Charlie Brown. And Trump ain't no Charlie Brown.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 01, 2025 11:23 AM (paSBy)
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If that Grenel comment is true I hope Pam goes after them for the Logan Act
Posted by: Skip at March 01, 2025 11:23 AM (hdURZ)
Posted by: Boeing at March 01, 2025 11:23 AM (l5F6b)
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Boy, Liz, you really nailed it. If I don't hand my wallet to Track Suit Trotsky, I'm unamerican now?
Last I saw, standing up to corrupt shitweasels who take our resources overseas for their own purposes while ignoring the obvious will of the people on issues here is how this whole party got started.
Last I saw, standing up to corrupt shitweasels who take our resources overseas for their own purposes while ignoring the obvious will of the people on issues here is how this whole party got started.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at March 01, 2025 11:24 AM (pIfcn)
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49 During the 60s and early seventies, the National Guard was considered by most to be a weekend beer drinking society, designed to avoid active service which could get your ass sent to Nam. Some outfits saw combat like the Hough riots in Cleveland, or opening up on some rock throwing student agitators at Kent State. Now, when I go over to Fort Chaffee I see Guardsmen displaying unit patches denoting tours in the sandbox or the Stan. I think the only time Guard units deployed to Vietnam was Operation Palace Guard with ANG units sent in country.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 01, 2025 11:24 AM (gm9Sb)
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Their universe is imaginary and exists only in their heads. That is why they are so gullible as to believe one can have a choice of 37 genders and other ridiculous notions.
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 11:21 AM (ctrM5)
I opened up Farcebook yesterday. I have "friends" who are putting Uke flags up again.
Nope. You've been muted for 30 days. Saves me from saying something, which would just result in them unfriending me.
Which is fine, but I do rely on Farcebook to let me know if there is any news of folks I don't otherwise talk to.
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 11:21 AM (ctrM5)
I opened up Farcebook yesterday. I have "friends" who are putting Uke flags up again.
Nope. You've been muted for 30 days. Saves me from saying something, which would just result in them unfriending me.
Which is fine, but I do rely on Farcebook to let me know if there is any news of folks I don't otherwise talk to.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:25 AM (NrEAT)
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Elric Blade
There are a lot of things you can do to mitigate diabetes. So much more info out there, diets, support.
You can manage this, and I don't think this sentences you to a heart attack.
You could be run over by a bus driven by a tranny, for instance.
There are a lot of things you can do to mitigate diabetes. So much more info out there, diets, support.
You can manage this, and I don't think this sentences you to a heart attack.
You could be run over by a bus driven by a tranny, for instance.
Posted by: TecumsehTea at March 01, 2025 11:25 AM (Eo96p)
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>>Eh, investigate them just like they did with Trump, all their comms seized including using the multiple hops rules bringing in their whole network, bank records seized, panty drawers invaded by middle of the night raids of their homes, and so on.
Someone is paying attention.
>@USAEdMartin
>Concerning.
>No one is above the law.
Someone is paying attention.
>@USAEdMartin
>Concerning.
>No one is above the law.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2025 11:25 AM (LkLld)
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If they go willingly, they get a parachute.
Posted by: whig
Only if it says Acme on the side and has an anvil instead of a canopy. We've got to maintain the cruelty over the weekend while the boss relaxes.
Posted by: whig
Only if it says Acme on the side and has an anvil instead of a canopy. We've got to maintain the cruelty over the weekend while the boss relaxes.
Posted by: DaveA at March 01, 2025 11:25 AM (FhXTo)
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The report from a A-10 crash killing Col. Thompson that I was the last hands on the runway was listed as debris left from the factory in 1979
Posted by: Skip at March 01, 2025 11:26 AM (hdURZ)
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Youse mite being seeing a volcanic eruption, mite youse?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 01, 2025 11:26 AM (8zz6B)
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Their universe is imaginary and exists only in their heads. That is why they are so gullible as to believe one can have a choice of 37 genders and other ridiculous notions.
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 11:21 AM (ctrM5)
I’m amazed and amused to see them hanging on every word by Liz Cheney, and promoting her. Even after the disaster of Kamala inviting her into the campaign, they still can’t grasp that Cheney is arguably the most toxic personality - to both parties! - on the political scene today.
Their universe is imaginary and exists only in their heads. That is why they are so gullible as to believe one can have a choice of 37 genders and other ridiculous notions.
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 11:21 AM (ctrM5)
I’m amazed and amused to see them hanging on every word by Liz Cheney, and promoting her. Even after the disaster of Kamala inviting her into the campaign, they still can’t grasp that Cheney is arguably the most toxic personality - to both parties! - on the political scene today.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 01, 2025 11:26 AM (SSRw1)
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For the last three years he's been War Greta. No one told him that the script had changed and he's not bright enough to figure it out for himself.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
Greta has a much better scowl than Z-Man. Let me see your war face!!!!
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
Greta has a much better scowl than Z-Man. Let me see your war face!!!!
Posted by: Military Moron at March 01, 2025 11:28 AM (JCZqz)
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It took English speaking peoples a long time to forget the hard lesson they learned from Cromwell. If you allow the Army to become more powerful than any other element of society, that Army will quickly realize it can run things without worrying what anyone else thinks about it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 01, 2025 11:09 AM (SSRw1)
Similarly, if you fund a secret organization to overthrow governments, eventually they'll overthrow yours.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 01, 2025 11:09 AM (SSRw1)
Similarly, if you fund a secret organization to overthrow governments, eventually they'll overthrow yours.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 11:28 AM (ExV1e)
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Zelenzky missed lunch.
Posted by: Eromero
Since the lunch was already prepared, I think Trump should have sent Voldemort Zalenskyy home with a small doggie bag. Just to rub it in.
Posted by: Eromero
Since the lunch was already prepared, I think Trump should have sent Voldemort Zalenskyy home with a small doggie bag. Just to rub it in.
Posted by: mindful webworker - in aluminum foil -(Al Yankovich) at March 01, 2025 11:28 AM (+8KQX)
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I ran 10 miles this morning, my usual Saturday morning distance. I’m over 29 so I’m slow anymore, but it was sunny and crisp and beautiful on the park paths here in DFW. No pianos!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 01, 2025 11:22 AM (i5Vkf)
I don't trust people in cars. If I'm driving, at least I have a fighting chance.
I bought a treadmill a few weeks ago. Not my first one either, but every time I move I leave them behind. I haven't set it up yet. I'm rearranging things, and it's a process.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 01, 2025 11:22 AM (i5Vkf)
I don't trust people in cars. If I'm driving, at least I have a fighting chance.
I bought a treadmill a few weeks ago. Not my first one either, but every time I move I leave them behind. I haven't set it up yet. I'm rearranging things, and it's a process.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:29 AM (NrEAT)
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Grenell is not the source. He merely made comment that it was a serious allegation.
The original source is a MAGA dude, @MatthewNichol5, who started his post, "rumor has it..."
I think I'll wait.
The original source is a MAGA dude, @MatthewNichol5, who started his post, "rumor has it..."
I think I'll wait.
Posted by: one hour sober at March 01, 2025 11:29 AM (Y1sOo)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 01, 2025 11:29 AM (u6WnU)
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In the aughts, we had Cindy Sheehan. In the teens we had Greta Thunkhead.
Zelensky is the 20s Sheehan/Greta.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:10 AM (lH8E4)
At least Sheehan was honest in her views and paid the price when she attacked Obama as she had Bush.
Zelensky is the 20s Sheehan/Greta.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:10 AM (lH8E4)
At least Sheehan was honest in her views and paid the price when she attacked Obama as she had Bush.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 11:30 AM (ExV1e)
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Like so many other orgs, the military has too many chiefs. All those four star popinjays, with their salads on their chests... none of them should hold a rank above an O5.
Unless we get invaded, then we'll let some of them put more baubles on their shoulders.
That's the system we had in World War Two - in early 1944, Patton held the temporary rank of lieutenant general, with the permanent rank of colonel. (He was promoted to the permanent rank of major general on August 16, 1944.)
Unless we get invaded, then we'll let some of them put more baubles on their shoulders.
That's the system we had in World War Two - in early 1944, Patton held the temporary rank of lieutenant general, with the permanent rank of colonel. (He was promoted to the permanent rank of major general on August 16, 1944.)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 01, 2025 11:30 AM (uxCna)
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I’m amazed and amused to see them hanging on every word by Liz Cheney, and promoting her. Even after the disaster of Kamala inviting her into the campaign, they still can’t grasp that Cheney is arguably the most toxic personality - to both parties! - on the political scene today.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Leftists in their imaginary world tend to use the Texas Sharpshooter fallacy over and over again. They see someone like Cheney saying OrangeMan Bad and they focus in on that so completely that they ignore Cheney's whole record of corrupt, illegal, and self serving behavior as was her father's record.
Nasty Corrupticans.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Leftists in their imaginary world tend to use the Texas Sharpshooter fallacy over and over again. They see someone like Cheney saying OrangeMan Bad and they focus in on that so completely that they ignore Cheney's whole record of corrupt, illegal, and self serving behavior as was her father's record.
Nasty Corrupticans.
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 11:30 AM (ctrM5)
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Since the lunch was already prepared, I think Trump should have sent Voldemort Zalenskyy home with a small doggie bag. Just to rub it in.
Posted by: mindful webworker - in aluminum foil -(Al Yankovich) at March 01, 2025 11:28 AM (+8KQX)
I'm sure Trump's got some McD's gift cards laying around.
Give them to his driver, tell him "Take him to the drive-thru, tell them I sent him. They'll use the nice pickles."
Posted by: mindful webworker - in aluminum foil -(Al Yankovich) at March 01, 2025 11:28 AM (+8KQX)
I'm sure Trump's got some McD's gift cards laying around.
Give them to his driver, tell him "Take him to the drive-thru, tell them I sent him. They'll use the nice pickles."
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:31 AM (NrEAT)
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My 'primary provider' said I was pre-diabetic, and wanted to put me on metformin. I just changed my lifestyle and my numbers are right down the middle on most labs.
Posted by: Eromero at March 01, 2025 11:04 AM (LHPAg)
I am on metformin, and it has worked to bring down whatever indicator they are concerned about. You will never convince me that said indicator was not chosen by a committee whose main role was to sell metformin.
But metformin is real cheap, and I tolerate it OK, so if it makes the provider happy, I'm good with it.
Posted by: Eromero at March 01, 2025 11:04 AM (LHPAg)
I am on metformin, and it has worked to bring down whatever indicator they are concerned about. You will never convince me that said indicator was not chosen by a committee whose main role was to sell metformin.
But metformin is real cheap, and I tolerate it OK, so if it makes the provider happy, I'm good with it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 01, 2025 11:32 AM (8zz6B)
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83 Grenell is not the source.
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Right. That's why I said it was a retweet. It could be nonsense.
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Right. That's why I said it was a retweet. It could be nonsense.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 01, 2025 11:32 AM (paSBy)
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It is telling that Grenell, a person who is very much in Trump's orbit, more, his special rep, is retweeting that. He was DNI Grenell not too long ago. So, he knows. And that means Trump knows too.
Posted by: runner at March 01, 2025 11:32 AM (g47mK)
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"Track Suit Trotsky"
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I like that moniker. It made me laugh; Thanks.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 01, 2025 11:29 AM (u6WnU)
Yep, that and "War Greta."
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I like that moniker. It made me laugh; Thanks.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 01, 2025 11:29 AM (u6WnU)
Yep, that and "War Greta."
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:32 AM (NrEAT)
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You can be crushed without anything actually falling from the sky.
Posted by: St. Pancake at March 01, 2025 11:33 AM (G5+As)
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hdURZ)
60 >>>An Italian living in England is a favorite blogger of mine.
He had this to say on the meeting. It cleared a few things up for me.
https://tinyurl.com/49vtymnm
I loved where he said that watching Trump and Vance work together was like watching Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday. Those two have already got a camaraderie that I don’t believe I have ever seen before in a Pres and a VP, it’s fun to watch.
I remember when people were still wondering why Trump had picked Vance, I saw that Trump had said to those around him that he had immediately felt a strong personal tie to Vance, that he didn’t get from anyone else he interviewed.
60 >>>An Italian living in England is a favorite blogger of mine.
He had this to say on the meeting. It cleared a few things up for me.
https://tinyurl.com/49vtymnm
I loved where he said that watching Trump and Vance work together was like watching Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday. Those two have already got a camaraderie that I don’t believe I have ever seen before in a Pres and a VP, it’s fun to watch.
I remember when people were still wondering why Trump had picked Vance, I saw that Trump had said to those around him that he had immediately felt a strong personal tie to Vance, that he didn’t get from anyone else he interviewed.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 01, 2025 11:33 AM (SSRw1)
Posted by: muldoon at March 01, 2025 11:33 AM (/iMjX)
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I bought a treadmill a few weeks ago. Not my first one either, but every time I move I leave them behind. I haven't set it up yet. I'm rearranging things, and it's a process.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:29 AM (NrEAT)
I call it the dreadmill…. Can’t use ‘em. My gait seems to change. I worry about a Harry Reid incident…. But I have friends who love them
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:29 AM (NrEAT)
I call it the dreadmill…. Can’t use ‘em. My gait seems to change. I worry about a Harry Reid incident…. But I have friends who love them
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 01, 2025 11:33 AM (i5Vkf)
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That's the system we had in World War Two - in early 1944, Patton held the temporary rank of lieutenant general, with the permanent rank of colonel. (He was promoted to the permanent rank of major general on August 16, 1944.)
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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Yep. Field appointments versus peacetime rank.
We probably now have more admirals than ships, more AF generals than we do airbases, and more Army Generals than we have divisions.
Time to remove the superfluous generals and reduce the military command structure into something more realistic given our current size of our military.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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Yep. Field appointments versus peacetime rank.
We probably now have more admirals than ships, more AF generals than we do airbases, and more Army Generals than we have divisions.
Time to remove the superfluous generals and reduce the military command structure into something more realistic given our current size of our military.
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 11:33 AM (ctrM5)
98
I almost bent the little ZBoy over my knee for a good spanking like that spoiled kid Arnold on The Andy Griffith Show.
Maybe I will build a real nice woodshed out back.
Winning!
Maybe I will build a real nice woodshed out back.
Winning!
Posted by: President Donald J. Trump, Father Knows Best at March 01, 2025 11:33 AM (R/m4+)
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I always suspected the primary motivation driving the Biden sfministration's support for Ukraine was established when Anthony Blinken visited Zelinsky to reiterate the offer of transport out of the country. Blinken was instead fully briefed on the body of evidence relating to Biden and other US VIP's corruption in Ukraine that would be released if the supply tap wasn't opened wide
It was all "Slava Ukraine!!!" after that.
It was all "Slava Ukraine!!!" after that.
Posted by: TmjUtah at March 01, 2025 11:33 AM (hCGoT)
100
Besides, if you go running there's a greater chance a piano will fall out of the sky and land on your head.
But at least you won't have died of a heart attack.
So there, you were wrong, doc.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:15 AM (NrEAT)
James Fuller Fixx (April 23, 1932 – July 20, 1984) was an American who wrote the 1977 best-selling book The Complete Book of Running. He is credited with helping start America's fitness revolution by popularizing the sport of running and demonstrating the health benefits of regular jogging. He died of a heart attack while jogging at 52 years of age; his genetic predisposition for heart problems and other previous lifestyle factors may have caused his heart attack.
Just sayin'.
But at least you won't have died of a heart attack.
So there, you were wrong, doc.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:15 AM (NrEAT)
James Fuller Fixx (April 23, 1932 – July 20, 1984) was an American who wrote the 1977 best-selling book The Complete Book of Running. He is credited with helping start America's fitness revolution by popularizing the sport of running and demonstrating the health benefits of regular jogging. He died of a heart attack while jogging at 52 years of age; his genetic predisposition for heart problems and other previous lifestyle factors may have caused his heart attack.
Just sayin'.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 11:33 AM (ExV1e)
101
Similarly, if you fund a secret organization to overthrow governments, eventually they'll overthrow yours.
I continue to think that George W. Bush was ultimately responsible for this - you had the intelligence fiasco of September 11, 2001, and not a single person in the intelligence agencies lost their job as a result.
That convinced the intelligence agencies that they were bulletproof.
I continue to think that George W. Bush was ultimately responsible for this - you had the intelligence fiasco of September 11, 2001, and not a single person in the intelligence agencies lost their job as a result.
That convinced the intelligence agencies that they were bulletproof.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 01, 2025 11:33 AM (uxCna)
102
86 The Marine Corps had a lot of temporary officers during the Vietnam era. My Intel SNCOIC was a Gunnery Sergeant, reverted from the temporary rank of Major. I think there was some retirement benefit involved.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 01, 2025 11:34 AM (gm9Sb)
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91 It is telling that Grenell, a person who is very much in Trump's orbit, more, his special rep, is retweeting that. He was DNI Grenell not too long ago. So, he knows. And that means Trump knows too.
Posted by: runner
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True enough.
Posted by: runner
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True enough.
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 11:34 AM (ctrM5)
104
Either way it's not for us to decide and one should use caution.
It's lunch time and can't wait to get home for a nap
It's lunch time and can't wait to get home for a nap
Posted by: Skip at March 01, 2025 11:34 AM (hdURZ)
105
Yep, that and "War Greta."
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:32 AM (NrEAT)
Well; it's funny, but in order to use that he would have to contemplate having "transition" surgery.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:32 AM (NrEAT)
Well; it's funny, but in order to use that he would have to contemplate having "transition" surgery.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 01, 2025 11:35 AM (u6WnU)
106
I think, maybe, we'll see some actual legal action against some of the shitheads who've been pretty safe so far. Unlike the left that basically paid DA's, judges and prosecutors to "get Trump" with pretty bogus charges we'll see actual criminal charges against people who right now think they're still "above the law."
Charges that can't be proverbially "hand waved away."
Charges that (I hope) result in one-way trips to Gitmo.
Charges that can't be proverbially "hand waved away."
Charges that (I hope) result in one-way trips to Gitmo.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 01, 2025 11:35 AM (Q4IgG)
107
That's the system we had in World War Two - in early 1944, Patton held the temporary rank of lieutenant general, with the permanent rank of colonel. (He was promoted to the permanent rank of major general on August 16, 1944.)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 01, 2025 11:30 AM (uxCna)
Yeah, I'm pretty sure R.E. Lee was a Lt. Col (or possibly full bird) before he was offered command of the Army Of the Potomac.
I'm not sure Grant held a rank above Captain at any point, before he resigned from the Army. When he signed back up, I think they made him a Colonel.
Oh, and I think Ike was a Major when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor!
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 01, 2025 11:30 AM (uxCna)
Yeah, I'm pretty sure R.E. Lee was a Lt. Col (or possibly full bird) before he was offered command of the Army Of the Potomac.
I'm not sure Grant held a rank above Captain at any point, before he resigned from the Army. When he signed back up, I think they made him a Colonel.
Oh, and I think Ike was a Major when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor!
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:35 AM (NrEAT)
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101 Similarly, if you fund a secret organization to overthrow governments, eventually they'll overthrow yours.
I continue to think that George W. Bush was ultimately responsible for this - you had the intelligence fiasco of September 11, 2001, and not a single person in the intelligence agencies lost their job as a result.
That convinced the intelligence agencies that they were bulletproof.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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True. Tenet was an idiot. I once transcribed a Tenet interview for a prof as an RA for him who was writing a book based on interviews of CIA chiefs that were still living at the time of the book. I was not impressed.
I continue to think that George W. Bush was ultimately responsible for this - you had the intelligence fiasco of September 11, 2001, and not a single person in the intelligence agencies lost their job as a result.
That convinced the intelligence agencies that they were bulletproof.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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True. Tenet was an idiot. I once transcribed a Tenet interview for a prof as an RA for him who was writing a book based on interviews of CIA chiefs that were still living at the time of the book. I was not impressed.
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 11:36 AM (ctrM5)
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>>Right. That's why I said it was a retweet. It could be nonsense.
I don't think it was nonsense. More importantly, it has received the attention of Trump's DC US Attorney and if his reputation is to be believed he will look into it.
I don't think it was nonsense. More importantly, it has received the attention of Trump's DC US Attorney and if his reputation is to be believed he will look into it.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2025 11:36 AM (LkLld)
110
>I'm sure Zelensky was told that Trump is an idiot and a clown, so just go in and demand whatever you want, he'll double it.
Which shows the disadvantage of getting all your information from the left.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 01, 2025 11:17 AM (CHHv1)
Whatever fuckery he did with democrat politicians, he needed to double it with Trump, and talk him up. It isn't a big thing to ask. A few of his enemies have tested the wind and come over to his side. My favorite photo is the right side couch, where JD is looking amused and Rubio is staring daggers.
My biggest fear in 2017 was that the dems would cut a deal with Trump, talk him up, and quietly deflate whatever conservative gains after the fact. Lo and behold it turns out that the people who daily build their own nemesis did not in fact do the smart thing.
Which shows the disadvantage of getting all your information from the left.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 01, 2025 11:17 AM (CHHv1)
Whatever fuckery he did with democrat politicians, he needed to double it with Trump, and talk him up. It isn't a big thing to ask. A few of his enemies have tested the wind and come over to his side. My favorite photo is the right side couch, where JD is looking amused and Rubio is staring daggers.
My biggest fear in 2017 was that the dems would cut a deal with Trump, talk him up, and quietly deflate whatever conservative gains after the fact. Lo and behold it turns out that the people who daily build their own nemesis did not in fact do the smart thing.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 01, 2025 11:36 AM (lhenN)
111
I also notice it is very, very quiet. Other than the truth post by Trump summarizing his position, and few interviews, Trump's on the way to FL, from Rubio to CNN, from Bessent to Bloomberg, and a short one from the press secretary, there is eerie silence. No tweets from the administration, no statements to the media, nothing.
Posted by: runner at March 01, 2025 11:37 AM (g47mK)
112
"We are ready to sign the minerals agreement, and it will be the first step toward security guarantees."
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At this point he's like Lucy holding the football for Charlie Brown. And Trump ain't no Charlie Brown.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 01, 2025 11:23 AM (paSBy)
And, Russia has already said that they can supply everything Ukraine can AND aluminum, which Ukraine can't.
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At this point he's like Lucy holding the football for Charlie Brown. And Trump ain't no Charlie Brown.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 01, 2025 11:23 AM (paSBy)
And, Russia has already said that they can supply everything Ukraine can AND aluminum, which Ukraine can't.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 11:37 AM (ExV1e)
113
I'm not sure what I'm enjoying more the fact that a whole lot of crap is being revealed and stopped, or the reaction to the revelations to the elites and/ or people I know.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 01, 2025 11:37 AM (EG7Bp)
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Charges that (I hope) result in one-way trips to Gitmo.
John Kerry was meeting with Iranian government representatives throughout Trump's first term, telling them how to frustrate Trump's foreign policy initiatives.
Him first.
John Kerry was meeting with Iranian government representatives throughout Trump's first term, telling them how to frustrate Trump's foreign policy initiatives.
Him first.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 01, 2025 11:38 AM (uxCna)
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I call it the dreadmill…. Can’t use ‘em. My gait seems to change. I worry about a Harry Reid incident…. But I have friends who love them
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 01, 2025 11:33 AM (i5Vkf)
Yeah, I called it that, when I was using one every damn day.
I was never in better shape in my life, even in my army days.
Or army daze.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 01, 2025 11:33 AM (i5Vkf)
Yeah, I called it that, when I was using one every damn day.
I was never in better shape in my life, even in my army days.
Or army daze.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:38 AM (NrEAT)
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If that Grenel comment is true I hope Pam goes after them for the Logan Act
Posted by: Skip at March 01, 2025 11:23 AM (hdURZ)
Has anyone ever actually been tried for a Logan Act violation? Sadly, not sure they'd be convicted since Dem.
Posted by: Skip at March 01, 2025 11:23 AM (hdURZ)
Has anyone ever actually been tried for a Logan Act violation? Sadly, not sure they'd be convicted since Dem.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 11:38 AM (ExV1e)
117
The band No Pianos is nothing but pianos, and my disappointment is immeasurable.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 01, 2025 11:39 AM (lhenN)
118
Hmm. I guess the Dems have all forgotten the adage that politics stops at the water's edge.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 01, 2025 11:39 AM (guGkK)
119
Only if it says Acme on the side and has an anvil instead of a canopy. We've got to maintain the cruelty over the weekend while the boss relaxes.
Posted by: DaveA
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I agree with your terms.
Posted by: DaveA
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I agree with your terms.
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 11:39 AM (ctrM5)
120
"He dropped dead jogging home from the health food store"
Posted by: Archie Bunker, 1973 at March 01, 2025 11:39 AM (G5+As)
121
107 The German Wermacht in general and the Heer in particular put a lot of officers "on ice" during the secretive violations of the Versailles treaty. Some officers were even reduced to senior NCO ranks, with knowledge they would be reinstated to their previous or higher rank.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 01, 2025 11:39 AM (gm9Sb)
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Right. That's why I said it was a retweet.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 01, 2025 11:32 AM (paSBy)
I know you did. I was responding to another. I got lazy and failed to quote him.
I'll do better.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 01, 2025 11:32 AM (paSBy)
I know you did. I was responding to another. I got lazy and failed to quote him.
I'll do better.
Posted by: one hour sober at March 01, 2025 11:40 AM (Y1sOo)
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Zelenskyy is a bitch who needs to be bitch-slapped back into his place.
Why is this third-world shithead allowed to have a voice at the White House?
We have Russia on one side and America on the other: Let's carve their shit up and call it a day.
Why is this third-world shithead allowed to have a voice at the White House?
We have Russia on one side and America on the other: Let's carve their shit up and call it a day.
Posted by: Rev Wishbone at March 01, 2025 11:40 AM (fY84s)
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James Fuller Fixx (April 23, 1932 – July 20, 1984) was an American who wrote the 1977 best-selling book The Complete Book of Running. He is credited with helping start America's fitness revolution by popularizing the sport of running and demonstrating the health benefits of regular jogging. He died of a heart attack while jogging at 52 years of age; his genetic predisposition for heart problems and other previous lifestyle factors may have caused his heart attack.
Just sayin'.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 11:33 AM (ExV1e)
Oh yeah, Jim Fixx is my hero.
He's the reason I don't run.
Just sayin'.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 11:33 AM (ExV1e)
Oh yeah, Jim Fixx is my hero.
He's the reason I don't run.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:40 AM (NrEAT)
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114 Charges that (I hope) result in one-way trips to Gitmo.
John Kerry was meeting with Iranian government representatives throughout Trump's first term, telling them how to frustrate Trump's foreign policy initiatives.
Him first.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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I think we can be very generous in who faces charges because there are so many of them violating the law.
John Kerry was meeting with Iranian government representatives throughout Trump's first term, telling them how to frustrate Trump's foreign policy initiatives.
Him first.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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I think we can be very generous in who faces charges because there are so many of them violating the law.
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 11:40 AM (ctrM5)
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It's always weird to read Intercepted DU Transmissions. They are like Bizarro world, where everything is backwards.
Posted by: mindful webworker - me am unvulnerable at March 01, 2025 11:40 AM (+8KQX)
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I am ..98% certain that DU is a Vindman op.
Posted by: runner at March 01, 2025 11:41 AM (g47mK)
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The band No Pianos is nothing but pianos, and my disappointment is immeasurable.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 01, 2025 11:39 AM (lhenN)
Sorta like when you grab a handful of M ampersand N's, then look at your palm and see all the bright colored stains...
Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 01, 2025 11:39 AM (lhenN)
Sorta like when you grab a handful of M ampersand N's, then look at your palm and see all the bright colored stains...
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:42 AM (NrEAT)
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Heard this morning that the U.S., and ONLY the U.S. is capable of restoring the Nordstream pipeline, but it won't happen because we are reformatting Europe to a LNG energy structure we control.
Heard this morning that the U.S., and ONLY the U.S. is capable of restoring the Nordstream pipeline, but it won't happen because we are reformatting Europe to a LNG energy structure we control.
Posted by: Auspex at March 01, 2025 11:42 AM (j4U/Z)
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An oral surgeon I saw several times was tall, strong, very fit looking, no visible fat. He had a massive heart attack while jogging and was DRT. Age 55. Sad.
Posted by: Dr. Yankum at March 01, 2025 11:42 AM (G5+As)
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iiinteresting II :
"NATO chief Mark Rutte has said he told Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that he needs to find a way to restore his relationship with President Donald Trump after Friday's White House clash.
'It is important that President Zelensky finds a way to restore his relationship with the American President and with the senior American leadership team,' Rutte told the BBC on Saturday, commenting on a call he had with Zelensky on Friday."
This is after similar came from this morning from President of Poland.
LOL
Next will be Starmer.
"NATO chief Mark Rutte has said he told Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that he needs to find a way to restore his relationship with President Donald Trump after Friday's White House clash.
'It is important that President Zelensky finds a way to restore his relationship with the American President and with the senior American leadership team,' Rutte told the BBC on Saturday, commenting on a call he had with Zelensky on Friday."
This is after similar came from this morning from President of Poland.
LOL
Next will be Starmer.
Posted by: runner at March 01, 2025 11:43 AM (g47mK)
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>I'm sure Zelensky was told that Trump is an idiot and a clown, so just go in and demand whatever you want, he'll double it.
Which shows the disadvantage of getting all your information from the left.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm
When you put it like that, I wonder if Z's Lefty advisors deliberately set him up to fail, hoping it would hurt Trump in national polls? Risk sacrificing Ukraine to hopefully hurt Trump at home?
Which shows the disadvantage of getting all your information from the left.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm
When you put it like that, I wonder if Z's Lefty advisors deliberately set him up to fail, hoping it would hurt Trump in national polls? Risk sacrificing Ukraine to hopefully hurt Trump at home?
Posted by: Moron Analyst at March 01, 2025 11:43 AM (JCZqz)
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>>Has anyone ever actually been tried for a Logan Act violation? Sadly, not sure they'd be convicted since Dem.
It was then VP Joe Biden who suggested that General Mike Flynn be charged with violating the Logan Act for speaking with the Russian ambassador before Trump was sworn in.
Nobody has ever been convicted for violating the Logan Act.
It was then VP Joe Biden who suggested that General Mike Flynn be charged with violating the Logan Act for speaking with the Russian ambassador before Trump was sworn in.
Nobody has ever been convicted for violating the Logan Act.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2025 11:43 AM (LkLld)
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The German President (not Chancellor; this guy has more of a symbolic role) is really trying to double down.
In a speech earlier today, he remarked, "I never thought that one day we would have to protect Ukraine from the US."
Talk about being out to lunch. Setting aside his misread of the situation, protect Ukraine how? With what?
In a speech earlier today, he remarked, "I never thought that one day we would have to protect Ukraine from the US."
Talk about being out to lunch. Setting aside his misread of the situation, protect Ukraine how? With what?
Posted by: Dr. T at March 01, 2025 11:44 AM (lHPJf)
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120 "He dropped dead jogging home from the health food store"
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My brother used to say he'd start running when he saw runners with bugs in their teeth.
From all the smiling, you know.
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My brother used to say he'd start running when he saw runners with bugs in their teeth.
From all the smiling, you know.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 01, 2025 11:44 AM (paSBy)
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124 I worked with a guy, real fitness type. His idea of a feast was a piece of boiled chicken and a carrot. He hired me to put in a couple electric outlets, and while in his home, I noticed the kitchen counter was covered by dozens of vitamin and supplement bottles.Sadly, he managed to drop dead on a 10K, age 40ish IIRC.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 01, 2025 11:44 AM (gm9Sb)
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Well; it's funny, but in order to use that he would have to contemplate having "transition" surgery.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 01, 2025 11:35 AM (u6WnU)
He'd have to give up the piano.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 01, 2025 11:35 AM (u6WnU)
He'd have to give up the piano.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 11:44 AM (ExV1e)
138
There's another term I used to use for "pre-diabetes". I'll think of it here in a minute...
Posted by: muldoon at March 01, 2025 11:45 AM (/iMjX)
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I loved where he said that watching Trump and Vance work together was like watching Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday.
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Skin that smoke wagon and see what happens.
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Skin that smoke wagon and see what happens.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at March 01, 2025 11:45 AM (L/fGl)
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...oh yeah. "not-diabetes"
Posted by: muldoon at March 01, 2025 11:45 AM (/iMjX)
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Nobody has ever been convicted for violating the Logan Act.
Doesn't matter - the process is the punishment.
Doesn't matter - the process is the punishment.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 01, 2025 11:45 AM (uxCna)
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There's another term I used to use for "pre-diabetes". I'll think of it here in a minute...
Posted by: muldoon
Fat ass?
Posted by: muldoon
Fat ass?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at March 01, 2025 11:46 AM (L/fGl)
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If anyone is interested, US-Russia track is moving along. They announced their ambassador to the US (approved by the US). That was after the bilateral meeting in Turkey. The lady who represented the US will probably be the our ambassador to Russia.
Posted by: runner at March 01, 2025 11:46 AM (g47mK)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 11:46 AM (ExV1e)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 01, 2025 11:46 AM (u6WnU)
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He had a massive heart attack while jogging and was DRT. Age 55. Sad.
Posted by: Dr. Yankum
Lol...DRT. I usually only see that in police chats and .45 vs 9mm debates.
Posted by: Dr. Yankum
Lol...DRT. I usually only see that in police chats and .45 vs 9mm debates.
Posted by: Military Moron at March 01, 2025 11:47 AM (JCZqz)
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Posted by: sal at March 01, 2025 11:09 AM (f+FmA)
Thanks. I hadn't considered the idea that Zelensky was high on coke.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 01, 2025 11:22 AM (OIqjm)
Coke is now trending on Twitter. Very clearly not the soft drink.
Thanks. I hadn't considered the idea that Zelensky was high on coke.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 01, 2025 11:22 AM (OIqjm)
Coke is now trending on Twitter. Very clearly not the soft drink.
Posted by: Dr. T at March 01, 2025 11:47 AM (lHPJf)
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Germany does not have a government yet, so anything this or that pol says is hot air and liverwurst.
Posted by: runner at March 01, 2025 11:47 AM (g47mK)
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144 Yep. And studied drama under MacArthur in the Philippines. His words.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 01, 2025 11:47 AM (gm9Sb)
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Gotta go. Doc appt. Have fun.
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 11:48 AM (ctrM5)
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I realize that Skip is a conscientious worker and only drops in on AoS on his breaks,
but damn, that boy eats a lot of lunches.
but damn, that boy eats a lot of lunches.
Posted by: From about That Time at March 01, 2025 11:48 AM (n4GiU)
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Putin's problem is that to date no one had honored an agreement with Russia. None of the players have acted in good faith, and acted in ways that, had Russia done so, would have led to general war.
At this point Russia is going to need both very heavy assurances, and it is going to cost more than the EU is willing to give, if they have a choice, and high enough to make the USA cringe.
And pretty much the only voice Putin is going to halfway trust is Trump. Trump just displayed on live TV that he is not willing to deal with changes in the agreement.
At this point Russia is going to need both very heavy assurances, and it is going to cost more than the EU is willing to give, if they have a choice, and high enough to make the USA cringe.
And pretty much the only voice Putin is going to halfway trust is Trump. Trump just displayed on live TV that he is not willing to deal with changes in the agreement.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 01, 2025 11:48 AM (D7oie)
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142 There's another term I used to use for "pre-diabetes". I'll think of it here in a minute...
Posted by: muldoon
Fat ass?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
Hater! The correct terms are "curvy", "THICC", or "plus-sized".
Posted by: muldoon
Fat ass?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
Hater! The correct terms are "curvy", "THICC", or "plus-sized".
Posted by: Megan Thee Stallion at March 01, 2025 11:49 AM (JCZqz)
154
Exercise is a short-cut to the grave.
Posted by: Horace Rumpole at March 01, 2025 11:49 AM (ZmEVT)
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Has anyone ever actually been tried for a Logan Act violation? Sadly, not sure they'd be convicted since Dem.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 11:38 AM (ExV1e)“
Successfully? Not one single time in over 200 years. That’s why I have to roll my eyes anytime anyone brings that stupid “law” up. It’s one of the oldest bad jokes in American politics.
It stays on the books because no legislature wants to dirty themselves by touching it, and it’s never been overturned because no prosecutor has ever wanted to bury his career by actually trying to enforce it. (So it never gets overturned). It’s dead letter law.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 11:38 AM (ExV1e)“
Successfully? Not one single time in over 200 years. That’s why I have to roll my eyes anytime anyone brings that stupid “law” up. It’s one of the oldest bad jokes in American politics.
It stays on the books because no legislature wants to dirty themselves by touching it, and it’s never been overturned because no prosecutor has ever wanted to bury his career by actually trying to enforce it. (So it never gets overturned). It’s dead letter law.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 01, 2025 11:49 AM (SSRw1)
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...oh yeah. "not-diabetes"
Posted by: muldoon at March 01, 2025 11:45 AM (/iMjX)
Sorta like pre-pregnant.
Posted by: muldoon at March 01, 2025 11:45 AM (/iMjX)
Sorta like pre-pregnant.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:49 AM (NrEAT)
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I just loved Trump and Vance lecturing Zelensky about respect and gratitude… like a daddy lecturing a sullen 5 year old. Zelensky needs a major attitude adjustment. I also loved Trump calling him out for his sloppy informal dress right on arrival. If you’re Zelensky you know you fucked up big time when Miss Lindsay the warmonger was calling you out afterwards
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 01, 2025 11:50 AM (ANuwa)
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If anyone is interested, US-Russia track is moving along. They announced their ambassador to the US (approved by the US). That was after the bilateral meeting in Turkey. The lady who represented the US will probably be the our ambassador to Russia.
They're even discussing restarting direct flights between the two countries.
They're even discussing restarting direct flights between the two countries.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 01, 2025 11:50 AM (uxCna)
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I'll do better.
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I didn't mean to sound snarky or anything. I was just agreeing that we should be cautious.
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I didn't mean to sound snarky or anything. I was just agreeing that we should be cautious.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 01, 2025 11:50 AM (paSBy)
Posted by: BignJames at March 01, 2025 11:50 AM (Yj6Os)
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He's the reason I don't run.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:40 AM (NrEAT)
I don't run cuz I'm a fat, lazy fuck.
You can always get a heart CT to see if you're at risk for a heart attack. I use mine to tell the doctor that I don't give a damn about cholesterol.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:40 AM (NrEAT)
I don't run cuz I'm a fat, lazy fuck.
You can always get a heart CT to see if you're at risk for a heart attack. I use mine to tell the doctor that I don't give a damn about cholesterol.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 11:50 AM (ExV1e)
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Vance played "bad cop" to Trump's "good cop." It was great.
Posted by: Horace Rumpole at March 01, 2025 11:51 AM (ZmEVT)
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Yes, we have more dozens of admirals and generals than we actually need, but what is even more jarring to me are the police chiefs of every little podunk city, town, village with a flashy uniform with four, five, six stars on it. What no epaulets?
Posted by: Field Marshal, Sanitation Dept. at March 01, 2025 11:51 AM (G5+As)
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153 You forgot big boned. I have been warned about pre diabetes (always skate by) for two decades, and the stroke from not taking Coumadin for 15 years hasn't showed up.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 01, 2025 11:51 AM (gm9Sb)
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That's a gorgeous photo/painting MisHum
Posted by: vmom deport deport deporte at March 01, 2025 11:51 AM (WL2lA)
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>>And pretty much the only voice Putin is going to halfway trust is Trump. Trump just displayed on live TV that he is not willing to deal with changes in the agreement.
It was pretty interesting hearing Trump tell the media that they did a lot to damage the US - Russia relationship by accusing Putin of meddling in the 2016 election to install Trump.
That's one part of the Russia scam that always seems to get overlooked. They were willing to harm our relationship with Russia just to get Trump. Very stupid people.
It was pretty interesting hearing Trump tell the media that they did a lot to damage the US - Russia relationship by accusing Putin of meddling in the 2016 election to install Trump.
That's one part of the Russia scam that always seems to get overlooked. They were willing to harm our relationship with Russia just to get Trump. Very stupid people.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2025 11:52 AM (LkLld)
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off fat barrister sock
Posted by: no one of any consequence at March 01, 2025 11:52 AM (ZmEVT)
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>>I didn't mean to sound snarky or anything.
I didn't take it that way. I was being lazy. My bad.
I didn't take it that way. I was being lazy. My bad.
Posted by: one hour sober at March 01, 2025 11:53 AM (Y1sOo)
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Richard Grenell retweeted that Blinken, Nuland, Vindman, and Rice advised Zelensky to reject the mineral agreement, in violation of the Logan Act.
https://tinyurl.com/yckzs245
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 01, 2025 11:10 AM (paSBy)
So don't prosecute under the Logan Act. Treason is on the books, too. Try, convict, hang.
https://tinyurl.com/yckzs245
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 01, 2025 11:10 AM (paSBy)
So don't prosecute under the Logan Act. Treason is on the books, too. Try, convict, hang.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 01, 2025 11:54 AM (8zz6B)
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> If you’re Zelensky you know you fucked up big time when Miss Lindsay the warmonger was calling you out afterwards
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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Probably bitching him out about losing all that sweet, sweet grift.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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Probably bitching him out about losing all that sweet, sweet grift.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 01, 2025 11:54 AM (Q4IgG)
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An oral surgeon I saw several times was tall, strong, very fit looking, no visible fat. He had a massive heart attack while jogging and was DRT. Age 55. Sad.
Posted by: Dr. Yankum at March 01, 2025 11:42 AM (G5+As)
https://youtu.be/NSPcuGjstN4
Documentary on the Widowmaker, aka blockage of the left anterior descending coronary artery.
Posted by: Dr. Yankum at March 01, 2025 11:42 AM (G5+As)
https://youtu.be/NSPcuGjstN4
Documentary on the Widowmaker, aka blockage of the left anterior descending coronary artery.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 11:54 AM (ExV1e)
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The wind turns against little z today by, of all groups, NATO. To kiss the ring and make up with our President Trump and VP Vance. Bend over!
Top story in the UK DM.
I am assuming they, someone sort of sane in the bunch, looked at the bank and shouted whoa!
Without the USA how can we get our $ from the Ukraine laundry scheme? How can we still produce bio weapons? Or run child trafficking and prostitution? Or the rumored organ mills? This is bad! We need this corrupt country! To keep little z in his expensive homes, supporting his wife and her expensive clothing and cars!
How can our lovely Dims in Congress and the nepo children of Pelosi, Romney and Biden dip their money sucking? This is not good at all! Deep sheet, man!
Meanwhile, little z is in the UK sucking up (probably literally) to the PM. Come a' beggin'
Next: probably Paris with Macaroon.
Keep flying, little z! An impeachment awaits if you land in Kiev!
Top story in the UK DM.
I am assuming they, someone sort of sane in the bunch, looked at the bank and shouted whoa!
Without the USA how can we get our $ from the Ukraine laundry scheme? How can we still produce bio weapons? Or run child trafficking and prostitution? Or the rumored organ mills? This is bad! We need this corrupt country! To keep little z in his expensive homes, supporting his wife and her expensive clothing and cars!
How can our lovely Dims in Congress and the nepo children of Pelosi, Romney and Biden dip their money sucking? This is not good at all! Deep sheet, man!
Meanwhile, little z is in the UK sucking up (probably literally) to the PM. Come a' beggin'
Next: probably Paris with Macaroon.
Keep flying, little z! An impeachment awaits if you land in Kiev!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at March 01, 2025 11:55 AM (6PCLE)
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Good morning, horde.
Good morning, horde.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 01, 2025 11:55 AM (lCaJd)
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I wonder if Z's Lefty advisors deliberately set him up to fail, hoping it would hurt Trump in national polls?
I did see some streamer react to it (it being the blowup and none of the proceeding) and they said Vance was an ass.
I did see some streamer react to it (it being the blowup and none of the proceeding) and they said Vance was an ass.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 11:56 AM (ExV1e)
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After the Zeleskyy show in the oval office, Rubio had a scheduled meeting with the Greek ambassador. There are riots and protest in Greece, hundreds of thousands. And that country is a good ally, a NATO member, and is very close to the ME. So we have more on our place than Zelenskyy.
Posted by: runner at March 01, 2025 11:57 AM (g47mK)
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170 > If you’re Zelensky you know you fucked up big time when Miss Lindsay the warmonger was calling you out afterwards
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
Evidently he and some other Senators met with Zelensky right before the "meeting" with Trump and they were assured that all was well and he was gonna sign the agreement. Ms. Lindsey was furious he lied to them.
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Posted by: LinusVanPelt
Evidently he and some other Senators met with Zelensky right before the "meeting" with Trump and they were assured that all was well and he was gonna sign the agreement. Ms. Lindsey was furious he lied to them.
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Posted by: It's me donna at March 01, 2025 11:57 AM (VE6XX)
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It's all going to get exposed.
>>@CatchUpFeed
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>>Feb 28
Marjorie Taylor Greene: "What we have learned is that USAID has been used by Democrats to brainwash the world with globalist propaganda to force regime change around world."
>>@CatchUpFeed
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>>Feb 28
Marjorie Taylor Greene: "What we have learned is that USAID has been used by Democrats to brainwash the world with globalist propaganda to force regime change around world."
Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2025 11:57 AM (LkLld)
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And that country is a good ally, a NATO member, and is very close to the ME. So we have more on our place than Zelenskyy.
Posted by: runner at March 01, 2025 11:57 AM (g47mK)
If Russia invades Turkey from the rear, will Greece help?
Posted by: runner at March 01, 2025 11:57 AM (g47mK)
If Russia invades Turkey from the rear, will Greece help?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 01, 2025 11:58 AM (8zz6B)
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Oh, and I think Ike was a Major when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor!
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One star.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 11:46 AM (ExV1e)
Ah, just looked it up. Was a Major for 16 years! Must have been fun putting the cluster on every day.
Was promoted to Lt. Col in '36, then got his bird in March of '41. Given his star in Oct. '41.
Good timing.
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One star.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 11:46 AM (ExV1e)
Ah, just looked it up. Was a Major for 16 years! Must have been fun putting the cluster on every day.
Was promoted to Lt. Col in '36, then got his bird in March of '41. Given his star in Oct. '41.
Good timing.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 11:58 AM (p2iSj)
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The Vigilant Fox @VigilantFox
Elon Musk Exposes the "Biggest Scam Ever"
"I thought it would be bad, but I did not think it would be as bad as this."
X Thread: https://bit.ly/4bpbDtI
Elon Musk just exposed what he calls the "biggest scam" in U.S. history during his viral appearance on episode #2281 of The Joe Rogan Experience.
The focus of the conversation was government waste and abuse -- and Musk had plenty to say.
Musk quickly dropped a shocker when he revealed that the government handed the Navy $12 billion to build new submarines -- and not a single submarine was built.
When lawmakers asked where the money went, Navy officials shrugged and said they had no idea -- a revelation Musk heard firsthand from Senator Susan Collins (R-Maine).
"There’s a case where I think Senator Collins was telling me about how she gave the Navy $12 billion for more submarines, got no extra submarines, and then held a hearing to say where the $12 billion go.
"And they were like, we don’t know. That was it. I mean, basically, stuff is so crazy. Only the federal government could get away with this level of waste,” Musk said.
Elon Musk Exposes the "Biggest Scam Ever"
"I thought it would be bad, but I did not think it would be as bad as this."
X Thread: https://bit.ly/4bpbDtI
Elon Musk just exposed what he calls the "biggest scam" in U.S. history during his viral appearance on episode #2281 of The Joe Rogan Experience.
The focus of the conversation was government waste and abuse -- and Musk had plenty to say.
Musk quickly dropped a shocker when he revealed that the government handed the Navy $12 billion to build new submarines -- and not a single submarine was built.
When lawmakers asked where the money went, Navy officials shrugged and said they had no idea -- a revelation Musk heard firsthand from Senator Susan Collins (R-Maine).
"There’s a case where I think Senator Collins was telling me about how she gave the Navy $12 billion for more submarines, got no extra submarines, and then held a hearing to say where the $12 billion go.
"And they were like, we don’t know. That was it. I mean, basically, stuff is so crazy. Only the federal government could get away with this level of waste,” Musk said.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 01, 2025 11:58 AM (P5BPp)
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all the "Trump is not my boss" leaders in EU are now telling Z "go talk to Trump, he is your only hope"
I am not sure how I feel about that.
I am not sure how I feel about that.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 01, 2025 11:58 AM (D7oie)
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To those of you skeptical of the benefits of running, I can relate my own experience: I started running regularly in my mid-thirties and have run about 20 full marathons. In my mid-forties while running a half-marathon I felt winded, went to doc next day who discovered a 99% blockage in my LAD (major artery). I was this close to a major heart attack while in marathon shape. How?? Doc told me it’s almost entirely genetics…. But regular running did probably save me because… when he did the angiogram he saw that I’d developed large “peripherals”…. Normal sized blood vessels that had grown and expanded from all my exercise and they had taken over the function of my blocked LAD. Doc said my exercise probably prevented a major heart attack. The moral of the story though is; you can’t outrun or out exercise your genetics…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 01, 2025 11:59 AM (i5Vkf)
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So. 40 minutes of chatting and bam! He screws it up.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 01, 2025 11:59 AM (W/lyH)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at March 01, 2025 11:59 AM (L/fGl)
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>>>Meanwhile, little z is in the UK sucking up (probably literally) to the PM. Come a' beggin'
It will be quite the novelty if Starmer is the suckee.
It will be quite the novelty if Starmer is the suckee.
Posted by: Dr. T at March 01, 2025 11:59 AM (lHPJf)
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The Vigilant Fox @VigilantFox
In another eye-opening moment, Musk concluded that the government could save $100 billion a year just by forcing agencies to explain what their payments are actually for.
He mentioned how the current system allows the government to send payments with no categorization code, no description, and no explanation -- essentially handing out blank checks with zero accountability.
Musk compared this to public companies, saying that if a corporation tried the same thing, it would be delisted immediately, and its executives would “be thrown in prison.”
In another eye-opening moment, Musk concluded that the government could save $100 billion a year just by forcing agencies to explain what their payments are actually for.
He mentioned how the current system allows the government to send payments with no categorization code, no description, and no explanation -- essentially handing out blank checks with zero accountability.
Musk compared this to public companies, saying that if a corporation tried the same thing, it would be delisted immediately, and its executives would “be thrown in prison.”
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 01, 2025 11:59 AM (P5BPp)
Posted by: Dan Crenshaw at March 01, 2025 11:59 AM (9ptcg)
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> Meanwhile, little z is in the UK sucking up (probably literally) to the PM. Come a' beggin'
Next: probably Paris with Macaroon.
Keep flying, little z! An impeachment awaits if you land in Kiev!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat
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I can't imagine the UK, France or the whole of NATO (sans the US) being able to scrape together a couple hundred billion dollars for Little-Z.
Next: probably Paris with Macaroon.
Keep flying, little z! An impeachment awaits if you land in Kiev!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat
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I can't imagine the UK, France or the whole of NATO (sans the US) being able to scrape together a couple hundred billion dollars for Little-Z.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 01, 2025 12:00 PM (Q4IgG)
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Amusement in Portland:
Portland area voters have been real big lately on passing special taxes only on the "rich" (people who make more than $125,000 a year), to the point where Portland's marginal state and local income tax rates are as high as New York City's.
A lot of "rich" people have responded by fleeing across the Columbia River to Washington, which has no state and local income taxes at all.
And now, unexpectedly, both Portland government and Portland's county government are running large budget deficits.
Gosh, I wonder why.
Portland area voters have been real big lately on passing special taxes only on the "rich" (people who make more than $125,000 a year), to the point where Portland's marginal state and local income tax rates are as high as New York City's.
A lot of "rich" people have responded by fleeing across the Columbia River to Washington, which has no state and local income taxes at all.
And now, unexpectedly, both Portland government and Portland's county government are running large budget deficits.
Gosh, I wonder why.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 01, 2025 12:00 PM (uxCna)
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When you put it like that, I wonder if Z's Lefty advisors deliberately set him up to fail, hoping it would hurt Trump in national polls? Risk sacrificing Ukraine to hopefully hurt Trump at home?
Posted by: Moron Analyst at March 01, 2025 11:43 AM (JCZqz)
There will be a certain amount of that, but it will be performative and regretful. The NPCs will be putting their blue and yellow icons away, but the stated reason will be excuses.
Trump continues to be a Reverse Samson, where hordes of people tear down the temple over their own head to get to him.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at March 01, 2025 11:43 AM (JCZqz)
There will be a certain amount of that, but it will be performative and regretful. The NPCs will be putting their blue and yellow icons away, but the stated reason will be excuses.
Trump continues to be a Reverse Samson, where hordes of people tear down the temple over their own head to get to him.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 01, 2025 12:00 PM (lhenN)
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I don't run cuz I'm a fat, lazy fuck.
You can always get a heart CT to see if you're at risk for a heart attack. I use mine to tell the doctor that I don't give a damn about cholesterol.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 11:50 AM (ExV1e)
Yeah, I'm just being silly. I have no good reason not to exercise regularly, and got lazy right around March of 2020.
I'm trying to remember why that date. Maybe something happened then.
You can always get a heart CT to see if you're at risk for a heart attack. I use mine to tell the doctor that I don't give a damn about cholesterol.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 11:50 AM (ExV1e)
Yeah, I'm just being silly. I have no good reason not to exercise regularly, and got lazy right around March of 2020.
I'm trying to remember why that date. Maybe something happened then.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:01 PM (p2iSj)
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>>I wonder if Z's Lefty advisors deliberately set him up to fail, hoping it would hurt Trump in national polls?
Seeing Susan Rice hop on MSNBC right after and discuss in detail how the mineral deal is bad for Ukraine, and Alexander Vindman working overtime on twitter insulting Trump's team, I'd say, YES, this was not happenstance.
It's so weird we haven't seen Rice for a while, and this is the moment she appears -- and siding with Ukraine, no less.
Seeing Susan Rice hop on MSNBC right after and discuss in detail how the mineral deal is bad for Ukraine, and Alexander Vindman working overtime on twitter insulting Trump's team, I'd say, YES, this was not happenstance.
It's so weird we haven't seen Rice for a while, and this is the moment she appears -- and siding with Ukraine, no less.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2025 12:01 PM (Cki93)
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Elric Blade, I am prediabetic which I think is largely due to being on 4 hypertension meds.
March 5 is Ash Wednesday and the beginning of Lent, a 40 day period of fasting and repentance.
My plan is to use this time to practice fasting (IF -one meal, 2 small snacks) and give up all sweets.
Wanna join me? We could be fast friends 😀
March 5 is Ash Wednesday and the beginning of Lent, a 40 day period of fasting and repentance.
My plan is to use this time to practice fasting (IF -one meal, 2 small snacks) and give up all sweets.
Wanna join me? We could be fast friends 😀
Posted by: vmom deport deport deporte at March 01, 2025 12:01 PM (7gFa4)
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Evidently he and some other Senators met with Zelensky right before the "meeting" with Trump and they were assured that all was well and he was gonna sign the agreement. Ms. Lindsey was furious he lied to them.
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Posted by: It's me donna at March 01, 2025 11:57 AM (VE6XX)
Usually Lindsay gets mad when men DON'T pull out.
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Posted by: It's me donna at March 01, 2025 11:57 AM (VE6XX)
Usually Lindsay gets mad when men DON'T pull out.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:02 PM (p2iSj)
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And now, unexpectedly, both Portland government and Portland's county government are running large budget deficits.
Weird. I guess we'll have to tax the rich even MORE!
Weird. I guess we'll have to tax the rich even MORE!
Posted by: Portland Radical Socialist Government at March 01, 2025 12:02 PM (JCZqz)
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Horseface Kerry should be on the first helicopter ride. He's earned that.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at March 01, 2025 12:04 PM (8D1X6)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at March 01, 2025 12:04 PM (L/fGl)
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>>Feb 28
Marjorie Taylor Greene: "What we have learned is that USAID has been used by Democrats to brainwash the world with globalist propaganda to force regime change around world."
Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2025 11:57 AM (LkLld)
I now politicians gotta politic, but it's not just Democrats.
She knows that.
Marjorie Taylor Greene: "What we have learned is that USAID has been used by Democrats to brainwash the world with globalist propaganda to force regime change around world."
Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2025 11:57 AM (LkLld)
I now politicians gotta politic, but it's not just Democrats.
She knows that.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:04 PM (p2iSj)
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So don't prosecute under the Logan Act. Treason is on the books, too. Try, convict, hang.
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I think they have to be actively working for a declared enemy for treason.
Actively working against implementing the declared policy of the government? Sedition, I think.
But I'm no lawyer.
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I think they have to be actively working for a declared enemy for treason.
Actively working against implementing the declared policy of the government? Sedition, I think.
But I'm no lawyer.
Posted by: From about That Time at March 01, 2025 12:04 PM (n4GiU)
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General population (all comers) distribution curve for Hgb A1c level looks something like this:
https://is.gd/819Evm
The median level is ~6.9-7.0%, mean is ~6.2%
The ADA defines pre-diabetes as a Hgb A1c in the range of 5.7 to 6.4%. The lower end of this range is well below the populatioon mean and median.
There is overlap between "disease" and "non-disease" for any single determinant (lab test). Cutoff values defining a disease are generally set by consensus professional groups and they tend to err on the side of over-diagnosing, hence broad swaths of the general population are designated as "pre-condition". This is ostensibly so that "we don't miss anyone who really has the disease". At the expense of needless testing, expense and anxiety for many with "non-disease".
The same thing has occurred with "pre-hypertension"
They are defining disease downward.
https://is.gd/819Evm
The median level is ~6.9-7.0%, mean is ~6.2%
The ADA defines pre-diabetes as a Hgb A1c in the range of 5.7 to 6.4%. The lower end of this range is well below the populatioon mean and median.
There is overlap between "disease" and "non-disease" for any single determinant (lab test). Cutoff values defining a disease are generally set by consensus professional groups and they tend to err on the side of over-diagnosing, hence broad swaths of the general population are designated as "pre-condition". This is ostensibly so that "we don't miss anyone who really has the disease". At the expense of needless testing, expense and anxiety for many with "non-disease".
The same thing has occurred with "pre-hypertension"
They are defining disease downward.
Posted by: muldoon at March 01, 2025 12:04 PM (/iMjX)
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>>And now, unexpectedly, both Portland government and Portland's county government are running large budget deficits.
Amazing how they keep misunderstanding natural human behavior, huh? They are the party of denial, again and again.
When has jacking up a tax on something - cigarettes, yachts, whatever -- resulted in people just paying the new tax, not doing anything to avoid it.
Never. Never has happened ever in human history, I'd bet. . .
Amazing how they keep misunderstanding natural human behavior, huh? They are the party of denial, again and again.
When has jacking up a tax on something - cigarettes, yachts, whatever -- resulted in people just paying the new tax, not doing anything to avoid it.
Never. Never has happened ever in human history, I'd bet. . .
Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2025 12:05 PM (Cki93)
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In International Relations 101, they teach you that when you get to a Summit, the deal is done. All you need to do is show up, smile for the cameras, say nice things, and sign. You don't start to renegotiate the deal. Whoever gave Z-man the advice to ask for more (some Dems or the EU most likely) really screwed him over.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 01, 2025 12:05 PM (W/lyH)
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They are defining disease downward.
Posted by: muldoon
Which "coincidentally" increases prescriptions for meds, right?
Posted by: muldoon
Which "coincidentally" increases prescriptions for meds, right?
Posted by: vmom deport deport deporte at March 01, 2025 12:06 PM (7gFa4)
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Today is March 1 and still no unredacted Epstein documents.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 01, 2025 12:06 PM (/U5Yz)
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Phil Holloway @PhilHollowayEsq
I’m starting to wonder if this whole thing today at the Oval Office might have been preplanned by Zelensky and the Europeans
"Your dignity honors the bravery of the Ukrainian people.
Be strong, be brave, be fearless.
You are never alone, dead President [Zelensky].
We will continue working with you for a just and lasting peace."
https://bit.ly/43dWQA3
Posted by Ursula von der Leyen, Roberta Metsola (EP_President), Antonio Costa (eucopresident) and Valdis Dombrovskis at the same time. Same post, same time. Coordinated.
I’m starting to wonder if this whole thing today at the Oval Office might have been preplanned by Zelensky and the Europeans
"Your dignity honors the bravery of the Ukrainian people.
Be strong, be brave, be fearless.
You are never alone, dead President [Zelensky].
We will continue working with you for a just and lasting peace."
https://bit.ly/43dWQA3
Posted by Ursula von der Leyen, Roberta Metsola (EP_President), Antonio Costa (eucopresident) and Valdis Dombrovskis at the same time. Same post, same time. Coordinated.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 01, 2025 12:07 PM (P5BPp)
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202 In International Relations 101, they teach you that when you get to a Summit, the deal is done. All you need to do is show up, smile for the cameras, say nice things, and sign. You don't start to renegotiate the deal. Whoever gave Z-man the advice to ask for more (some Dems or the EU most likely) really screwed him over.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 01, 2025 12:05 PM (W/lyH)
I don't think this surprised Trump. It almost looked like he had a heads up this would happen
Posted by: Diogenes at March 01, 2025 12:05 PM (W/lyH)
I don't think this surprised Trump. It almost looked like he had a heads up this would happen
Posted by: It's me donna at March 01, 2025 12:07 PM (VE6XX)
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>>It's so weird we haven't seen Rice for a while, and this is the moment she appears -- and siding with Ukraine, no less.
Neocons have run our foreign policy and had a huge impact on domestic policy for decades. Losing Ukraine while Musk is helping tear down USAID and other NGO funding is a major blow for them and they know it.
Trump is realigning our foreign policy away from globalist bullshit and turning the focus to America First. I expect the screeching from the neocons to get dialed to 11 as they lose relevance.
Neocons have run our foreign policy and had a huge impact on domestic policy for decades. Losing Ukraine while Musk is helping tear down USAID and other NGO funding is a major blow for them and they know it.
Trump is realigning our foreign policy away from globalist bullshit and turning the focus to America First. I expect the screeching from the neocons to get dialed to 11 as they lose relevance.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2025 12:08 PM (LkLld)
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When you put it like that, I wonder if Z's Lefty advisors deliberately set him up to fail, hoping it would hurt Trump in national polls? Risk sacrificing Ukraine to hopefully hurt Trump at home?
Posted by: Moron Analyst at March 01, 2025 11:43 AM (JCZqz)
While I wouldn't put it past them, I don't think they're that smart. I think what's really driving this is that the CIA and State Department made a whole lot of promises to Zelensky that Trump does not intend to keep.
And Zelensky fucked up by trusting the CIA. I would imagine he was recruited before the 2014 coup, so he has the blood of hundreds of thousands of dead Ukrainians and Russians on hands. I don't know if the CIA promised him dictatorship for life, or that he'd get to personally own the minerals and oil or what, but it's clear he feels that the US is betraying him.
And I think the Deep State is doing everything they can to reassure Zelensky that Trump is blustering, he will get what is promised.
It's a tangled web we weave.
But in other words: no, I don't think any of this drama is being driven by domestic politics.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at March 01, 2025 11:43 AM (JCZqz)
While I wouldn't put it past them, I don't think they're that smart. I think what's really driving this is that the CIA and State Department made a whole lot of promises to Zelensky that Trump does not intend to keep.
And Zelensky fucked up by trusting the CIA. I would imagine he was recruited before the 2014 coup, so he has the blood of hundreds of thousands of dead Ukrainians and Russians on hands. I don't know if the CIA promised him dictatorship for life, or that he'd get to personally own the minerals and oil or what, but it's clear he feels that the US is betraying him.
And I think the Deep State is doing everything they can to reassure Zelensky that Trump is blustering, he will get what is promised.
It's a tangled web we weave.
But in other words: no, I don't think any of this drama is being driven by domestic politics.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 12:08 PM (uCjyK)
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Weird. I guess we'll have to tax the rich even MORE!
Both Portland and New York City have similar marginal state and local income tax rates, but in New York you only hit the maximum tax rate if you make $10 million a year.
In Portland, you hit the maximum tax rate at $125,000 a year.
Both Portland and New York City have similar marginal state and local income tax rates, but in New York you only hit the maximum tax rate if you make $10 million a year.
In Portland, you hit the maximum tax rate at $125,000 a year.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 01, 2025 12:08 PM (uxCna)
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Watch Zelensky's facial expressions and body language throughout. Very telling.
Posted by: Beverly at March 01, 2025 12:09 PM (Epeb0)
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Neocons have run our foreign policy and had a huge impact on domestic policy for decades. Losing Ukraine while Musk is helping tear down USAID and other NGO funding is a major blow for them and they know it.
Trump is realigning our foreign policy away from globalist bullshit and turning the focus to America First. I expect the screeching from the neocons to get dialed to 11 as they lose relevance.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2025 12:08 PM (LkLld)
Neocon doesn't feel like the right word here. Do we have a word for people who support the post WWII power structure of "international cooperation" where the US is nominally in charge, but everyone is getting rich off endless wars and foreign aid, and no one gives a fuck what the US taxpayer and voter thinks about any of this?
Trump is realigning our foreign policy away from globalist bullshit and turning the focus to America First. I expect the screeching from the neocons to get dialed to 11 as they lose relevance.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2025 12:08 PM (LkLld)
Neocon doesn't feel like the right word here. Do we have a word for people who support the post WWII power structure of "international cooperation" where the US is nominally in charge, but everyone is getting rich off endless wars and foreign aid, and no one gives a fuck what the US taxpayer and voter thinks about any of this?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 12:10 PM (uCjyK)
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Today is March 1 and still no unredacted Epstein documents.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 01, 2025 12:06 PM (/U5Yz)
The way Musk described it with Rogan, he said Bondi and Patel are walking into a hostile building, with hostile personnel all around, and just saying "I'm now your boss" doesn't mean anyone is going to cooperate.
So they basically have to go room to room, literally and figuratively, and try to find where the files are.
Are they hidden? Are they destroyed? Are there people in the building who KNOW where they are, and can lead Pam and Kash right to them?
These are things we don't yet know, but anyone claiming we're not getting info because Bondi and Patel are not trying hard enough, doesn't know what they're talking about.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 01, 2025 12:06 PM (/U5Yz)
The way Musk described it with Rogan, he said Bondi and Patel are walking into a hostile building, with hostile personnel all around, and just saying "I'm now your boss" doesn't mean anyone is going to cooperate.
So they basically have to go room to room, literally and figuratively, and try to find where the files are.
Are they hidden? Are they destroyed? Are there people in the building who KNOW where they are, and can lead Pam and Kash right to them?
These are things we don't yet know, but anyone claiming we're not getting info because Bondi and Patel are not trying hard enough, doesn't know what they're talking about.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:10 PM (p2iSj)
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While I wouldn't put it past them, I don't think they're that smart. I think what's really driving this is that the CIA and State Department made a whole lot of promises to Zelensky that Trump does not intend to keep.
Remember how the Biden Administration was "Trump-proofing" future aid to Ukraine?
Turns out that the US government has discretion over money that hasn't gone out the door yet.
Remember how the Biden Administration was "Trump-proofing" future aid to Ukraine?
Turns out that the US government has discretion over money that hasn't gone out the door yet.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 01, 2025 12:10 PM (uxCna)
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There is a discussion in my town farcebook forum about some cameras the cops have put up. I oppose this because I think it will be misused by the cops for traffic enforcement/generating fines.
And the discussion has people making that point and others arguing that it will keep us "safer" from crime
But the 'best' comment came from one leftist loon who argued that Elon Musk is going to use the cameras to send his "Nationalist Christian" forces to kill gay people. No this isn't a parody account or someone being sarcastic.
Leftists are insane.
And the discussion has people making that point and others arguing that it will keep us "safer" from crime
But the 'best' comment came from one leftist loon who argued that Elon Musk is going to use the cameras to send his "Nationalist Christian" forces to kill gay people. No this isn't a parody account or someone being sarcastic.
Leftists are insane.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 01, 2025 12:10 PM (t0Rmr)
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>>Richard Grenell retweeted that Blinken, Nuland, Vindman, and Rice advised Zelensky to reject the mineral agreement, in violation of the Logan Act.
https://tinyurl.com/yckzs245
Ah, confirmation from Grenell!
It was an op -- now they claim OrangeMan and Hillbilly are lItErAlLy ToOLs of PuTiN!!!
This week ended as a sort of "Empire Strikes Back" with the Epstein files and torpedoed Zelensky deal.
The swamp will not be drained willingly.
https://tinyurl.com/yckzs245
Ah, confirmation from Grenell!
It was an op -- now they claim OrangeMan and Hillbilly are lItErAlLy ToOLs of PuTiN!!!
This week ended as a sort of "Empire Strikes Back" with the Epstein files and torpedoed Zelensky deal.
The swamp will not be drained willingly.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2025 12:11 PM (Cki93)
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Pretty stark contrast between the appreciation showed by Netanyahu and the total lack thereof shown by Zelensky.
Pony up Europe. Pay your fair share and stand up to the Russians. It's your backyard, not ours.
Pony up Europe. Pay your fair share and stand up to the Russians. It's your backyard, not ours.
Posted by: THURSTON HOWELL 111 at March 01, 2025 12:11 PM (W2EWw)
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Ukraine $500 billion rare earth mineral same....
https://tinyurl.com/mpanets4
Posted by: Dan Crenshaw at March 01, 2025 11:59 AM (9ptcg)
Heh. This comports with my geological training and experience, too. The "mineral wealth" of Ukraine is largely hypothetical, and is more of a statistical estimate than based on actual ground truth.
https://tinyurl.com/mpanets4
Posted by: Dan Crenshaw at March 01, 2025 11:59 AM (9ptcg)
Heh. This comports with my geological training and experience, too. The "mineral wealth" of Ukraine is largely hypothetical, and is more of a statistical estimate than based on actual ground truth.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 01, 2025 12:12 PM (8zz6B)
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General population (all comers) distribution curve for Hgb A1c level looks something like this:
https://is.gd/819Evm
The median level is ~6.9-7.0%, mean is ~6.2%
The ADA defines pre-diabetes as a Hgb A1c in the range of 5.7 to 6.4%. The lower end of this range is well below the populatioon mean and median.
Posted by: muldoon at March 01, 2025 12:04 PM
Went into hospital in January 2022 when I had Bell's Palsy hit me. At the time I was 350lbs, high blood glucose and high blood pressure and my A1c was around 7-7.5 (don't remember the exact number now.)
After 6 months of lifestyle change, I was down 50lbs and my A1C was down to 5.0. Doctor also put me on Metformin.
Over the past 2 1/2+ years of keeping the same active and meal plan lifestyle, have kept my A1C around 5.0 and continued to lose weight.
https://is.gd/819Evm
The median level is ~6.9-7.0%, mean is ~6.2%
The ADA defines pre-diabetes as a Hgb A1c in the range of 5.7 to 6.4%. The lower end of this range is well below the populatioon mean and median.
Posted by: muldoon at March 01, 2025 12:04 PM
Went into hospital in January 2022 when I had Bell's Palsy hit me. At the time I was 350lbs, high blood glucose and high blood pressure and my A1c was around 7-7.5 (don't remember the exact number now.)
After 6 months of lifestyle change, I was down 50lbs and my A1C was down to 5.0. Doctor also put me on Metformin.
Over the past 2 1/2+ years of keeping the same active and meal plan lifestyle, have kept my A1C around 5.0 and continued to lose weight.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 01, 2025 12:12 PM (P5BPp)
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In International Relations 101, they teach you that when you get to a Summit, the deal is done. All you need to do is show up, smile for the cameras, say nice things, and sign. You don't start to renegotiate the deal. Whoever gave Z-man the advice to ask for more (some Dems or the EU most likely) really screwed him over.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 01, 2025 12:05 PM (W/lyH)
I don't think this surprised Trump. It almost looked like he had a heads up this would happen
Posted by: It's me donna at March 01, 2025 12:07 PM (VE6XX)
And I'm damn sure Trump has tossed the International Relations 101 textbook in the trash.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 01, 2025 12:05 PM (W/lyH)
I don't think this surprised Trump. It almost looked like he had a heads up this would happen
Posted by: It's me donna at March 01, 2025 12:07 PM (VE6XX)
And I'm damn sure Trump has tossed the International Relations 101 textbook in the trash.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:12 PM (p2iSj)
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Are they hidden? Are they destroyed? Are there people in the building who KNOW where they are, and can lead Pam and Kash right to them?
As Musk pointed out, it is hard to delete files in a large organization.
Lots of backups in odd places, and I bet NSA captured the transmission of those documents at one point or another.
As Musk pointed out, it is hard to delete files in a large organization.
Lots of backups in odd places, and I bet NSA captured the transmission of those documents at one point or another.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 01, 2025 12:12 PM (uxCna)
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I think Trump's history as a businessman and developer sort of dictates how he approaches politics too.
He's always talking about "making a deal." Which is sort of what diplomacy is all about anyway. You do this for me (us) and I'll (we'll) do that for you. He likely knows way ahead of time what the parameters are and decides what would be acceptable.
I think there was one, perhaps implied, and Z-man just felt like jacking Trump around because he didn't really like the terms... or was told to reject the agreement by (pick one or more) various Europeans, Congress persons, lobbyists, etc.
He's always talking about "making a deal." Which is sort of what diplomacy is all about anyway. You do this for me (us) and I'll (we'll) do that for you. He likely knows way ahead of time what the parameters are and decides what would be acceptable.
I think there was one, perhaps implied, and Z-man just felt like jacking Trump around because he didn't really like the terms... or was told to reject the agreement by (pick one or more) various Europeans, Congress persons, lobbyists, etc.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 01, 2025 12:13 PM (Q4IgG)
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During the WoT it was common for the left to argue that if you didn't support the Jihadis you should go enlist.
Well, I see a bunch of these same idiots proclaiming their desire to support Ukraine and not a single one flying to Kiev to enlist.
I guess much like how the core part of Obamacare was making YOU pay for their healthcare, the core part of supporting Ukraine is making YOU send your kids to die for lil Z
Well, I see a bunch of these same idiots proclaiming their desire to support Ukraine and not a single one flying to Kiev to enlist.
I guess much like how the core part of Obamacare was making YOU pay for their healthcare, the core part of supporting Ukraine is making YOU send your kids to die for lil Z
Posted by: 18-1 at March 01, 2025 12:14 PM (t0Rmr)
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These are things we don't yet know, but anyone claiming we're not getting info because Bondi and Patel are not trying hard enough, doesn't know what they're talking about.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:10 PM (p2iSj)
We don't really know what's going on, true. But on the flip side, if Patel or Bondi thought that the NYC field office of the FBI was concealing classified information from their bosses in DC, one would think they would show up at the NYC field office with a bunch of people from DC (or wherever) and say "anyone who doesn't fully cooperate will be fired. You will sign an affidavit before we leave saying that you have turned over everything that you know about. If we find that anyone was knowingly hiding information from the President of the United States, you will be criminally charged with mishandling classified information and perjury."
Maybe that is going on, I don't know. But strongly worded memos seem a bit underwhelming when the accusation is that we have rogue FBI agents operating outside the chain of command in NYC.
ESPECIALLY after both Trump and Biden said that the DOJ was politicized.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:10 PM (p2iSj)
We don't really know what's going on, true. But on the flip side, if Patel or Bondi thought that the NYC field office of the FBI was concealing classified information from their bosses in DC, one would think they would show up at the NYC field office with a bunch of people from DC (or wherever) and say "anyone who doesn't fully cooperate will be fired. You will sign an affidavit before we leave saying that you have turned over everything that you know about. If we find that anyone was knowingly hiding information from the President of the United States, you will be criminally charged with mishandling classified information and perjury."
Maybe that is going on, I don't know. But strongly worded memos seem a bit underwhelming when the accusation is that we have rogue FBI agents operating outside the chain of command in NYC.
ESPECIALLY after both Trump and Biden said that the DOJ was politicized.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 12:15 PM (uCjyK)
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My brainwashed leftist friends are hitting me with all kinds of noises about Z. I just posted about how much LNG the EU is buying from Russia and therefore financing the their was effort.
The Europeans are a joke get out of NATO
The Europeans are a joke get out of NATO
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 01, 2025 12:15 PM (EG7Bp)
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It's so weird we haven't seen Rice for a while, and this is the moment she appears -- and siding with Ukraine, no less.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2025 12:01 PM (Cki93)
I've wanted Black Pearl Necklace in prison since 2012 and Benghazi.
It's so weird we haven't seen Rice for a while, and this is the moment she appears -- and siding with Ukraine, no less.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2025 12:01 PM (Cki93)
I've wanted Black Pearl Necklace in prison since 2012 and Benghazi.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at March 01, 2025 12:16 PM (6PCLE)
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Many people can use a good diet to avoid the need for cardio altogether. Sadly they take the opposite idea, eat shit everyday and try to make up for it on the treadmill. The math is very discouraging on this approach.
I went to a crossfit gym in 2015, and there was a guy with a huge belly. He did all the exercises with zest, and was a long-time member.
The thing about diets is there are a hundred ways of doing it. You don't have to like any of them, but you can pick your favorite. I don't eat late at night unless my schedule has been disrupted.
I went to a crossfit gym in 2015, and there was a guy with a huge belly. He did all the exercises with zest, and was a long-time member.
The thing about diets is there are a hundred ways of doing it. You don't have to like any of them, but you can pick your favorite. I don't eat late at night unless my schedule has been disrupted.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 01, 2025 12:16 PM (lhenN)
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Phil Holloway @PhilHollowayEsq
I’m starting to wonder if this whole thing today at the Oval Office might have been preplanned by Zelensky and the Europeans
"Your dignity honors the bravery of the Ukrainian people.
Be strong, be brave, be fearless.
You are never alone, dead President [Zelensky].
We will continue working with you for a just and lasting peace."
https://bit.ly/43dWQA3
Posted by Ursula von der Leyen, Roberta Metsola (EP_President), Antonio Costa (eucopresident) and Valdis Dombrovskis at the same time. Same post, same time. Coordinated.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 01, 2025 12:07 PM
Unfortunate typo on my part.
Should be "You are never alone, dear President, [Zelensky]".
I’m starting to wonder if this whole thing today at the Oval Office might have been preplanned by Zelensky and the Europeans
"Your dignity honors the bravery of the Ukrainian people.
Be strong, be brave, be fearless.
You are never alone, dead President [Zelensky].
We will continue working with you for a just and lasting peace."
https://bit.ly/43dWQA3
Posted by Ursula von der Leyen, Roberta Metsola (EP_President), Antonio Costa (eucopresident) and Valdis Dombrovskis at the same time. Same post, same time. Coordinated.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 01, 2025 12:07 PM
Unfortunate typo on my part.
Should be "You are never alone, dear President, [Zelensky]".
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 01, 2025 12:17 PM (P5BPp)
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There is yet another reason to stop all aide to Ukraine that I haven't heard mentioned...
In Iraq, 'Stan, and Vietnam at a certain point the left decided they were "rightwing wars" and intentionally lost them - this doesn't excuse the incompetence of that "rightwing leadership" especially in the first two, but this was an explicit political decision made by the left.
Well f*ckers Ukraine is a "leftwing war". Why the hell should a right leaning pol go win it for you when you just consigned all those Americans that fought in our actual wars to having died for nothing?
In Iraq, 'Stan, and Vietnam at a certain point the left decided they were "rightwing wars" and intentionally lost them - this doesn't excuse the incompetence of that "rightwing leadership" especially in the first two, but this was an explicit political decision made by the left.
Well f*ckers Ukraine is a "leftwing war". Why the hell should a right leaning pol go win it for you when you just consigned all those Americans that fought in our actual wars to having died for nothing?
Posted by: 18-1 at March 01, 2025 12:17 PM (t0Rmr)
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Today is March 1 and still no unredacted Epstein documents.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 01, 2025 12:06 PM (/U5Yz)
That's because your Democrat friends are withholding them.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 01, 2025 12:06 PM (/U5Yz)
That's because your Democrat friends are withholding them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 01, 2025 12:17 PM (8zz6B)
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As Musk pointed out, it is hard to delete files in a large organization.
Lots of backups in odd places, and I bet NSA captured the transmission of those documents at one point or another.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 01, 2025 12:12 PM (uxCna)
Whatever internal docs there are, I would assume that's where you're looking for a digital trail, leading to a cache of some sort.
However... with the Epstein stuff, the Feebs literally went to the island (and I assume the ranch in New Mexico, and the townhouse in NYC), and seized a stadium sized load of hard drives, cameras, paper files, and everything that wasn't nailed down.
Where are those?
Lots of backups in odd places, and I bet NSA captured the transmission of those documents at one point or another.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 01, 2025 12:12 PM (uxCna)
Whatever internal docs there are, I would assume that's where you're looking for a digital trail, leading to a cache of some sort.
However... with the Epstein stuff, the Feebs literally went to the island (and I assume the ranch in New Mexico, and the townhouse in NYC), and seized a stadium sized load of hard drives, cameras, paper files, and everything that wasn't nailed down.
Where are those?
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:18 PM (p2iSj)
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I’m starting to wonder if this whole thing today at the Oval Office might have been preplanned by Zelensky and the Europeans
I assume there first hope was that lil Z could browbeat Trump in front of the cameras, but yeah, they had a plan B if that didn't work.
I assume there first hope was that lil Z could browbeat Trump in front of the cameras, but yeah, they had a plan B if that didn't work.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 01, 2025 12:18 PM (t0Rmr)
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Remember how the Biden Administration was "Trump-proofing" future aid to Ukraine?
Turns out that the US government has discretion over money that hasn't gone out the door yet.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 01, 2025 12:10 PM (uxCna)
It's not about the money*. I think it's about a security guarantee.
State or CIA probably told Zelensky that if he played his part here, they would let him be the leader of Ukraine and would make sure there were no retributions from Moscow.
That is what all the talk about Ukraine (!!) being admitted to NATO was all about.
*It's always at least a little bit about the money.
Turns out that the US government has discretion over money that hasn't gone out the door yet.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 01, 2025 12:10 PM (uxCna)
It's not about the money*. I think it's about a security guarantee.
State or CIA probably told Zelensky that if he played his part here, they would let him be the leader of Ukraine and would make sure there were no retributions from Moscow.
That is what all the talk about Ukraine (!!) being admitted to NATO was all about.
*It's always at least a little bit about the money.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 12:18 PM (uCjyK)
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>>But the 'best' comment came from one leftist loon who argued that Elon Musk is going to use the cameras to send his "Nationalist Christian" forces to kill gay people. No this isn't a parody account or someone being sarcastic.
Leftists are insane.
Heh, yeah.
What behavior does this person fear will be seen/recorded, one wonders. . .
Leftists are insane.
Heh, yeah.
What behavior does this person fear will be seen/recorded, one wonders. . .
Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2025 12:19 PM (Cki93)
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Somebody posted on X that "Europe" was already a military superpower, and didn't need the United States, and provided data on how big the "European" armed forces already were.
Pretty sure he included the Turkish military in "Europe", which may be a bit problematic.
Pretty sure he included the Turkish military in "Europe", which may be a bit problematic.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 01, 2025 12:19 PM (uxCna)
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Maybe that is going on, I don't know. But strongly worded memos seem a bit underwhelming when the accusation is that we have rogue FBI agents operating outside the chain of command in NYC.
ESPECIALLY after both Trump and Biden said that the DOJ was politicized.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 12:15 PM (uCjyK)
Yeah, I don't want to see anyone coming out in few months saying "We sure did ask for all this stuff, but gosh darnit, we couldn't find any."
I hope they have some big chested dudes with crew cuts on their side. And some knowledge before they took over, where to look.
ESPECIALLY after both Trump and Biden said that the DOJ was politicized.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 12:15 PM (uCjyK)
Yeah, I don't want to see anyone coming out in few months saying "We sure did ask for all this stuff, but gosh darnit, we couldn't find any."
I hope they have some big chested dudes with crew cuts on their side. And some knowledge before they took over, where to look.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:20 PM (p2iSj)
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What behavior does this person fear will be seen/recorded, one wonders. . .
There was also a recent debate about the local HS transing/grooming kids.
While obviously nothing comes out of the cameras around town in relation to that...likely this is what is on our leftist freak's mind that at the federal level support for this crap is ending...though based on where I live it won't at the state level.
There was also a recent debate about the local HS transing/grooming kids.
While obviously nothing comes out of the cameras around town in relation to that...likely this is what is on our leftist freak's mind that at the federal level support for this crap is ending...though based on where I live it won't at the state level.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 01, 2025 12:22 PM (t0Rmr)
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It makes it sound as if Zelensky is a child. He's actually 47.
He looked like a child when he got out of the SUV and was standing next to Trump. Dude may be shorter than AtC.
I’m starting to wonder if this whole thing today at the Oval Office might have been preplanned by Zelensky and the Europeans
Given Kalorama apparently set up Z to disrespect Trump beforehand, chances are good that it's a WEF/EU thing.
He looked like a child when he got out of the SUV and was standing next to Trump. Dude may be shorter than AtC.
I’m starting to wonder if this whole thing today at the Oval Office might have been preplanned by Zelensky and the Europeans
Given Kalorama apparently set up Z to disrespect Trump beforehand, chances are good that it's a WEF/EU thing.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 01, 2025 12:22 PM (QZThv)
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It's not about the money*. I think it's about a security guarantee.
State or CIA probably told Zelensky that if he played his part here, they would let him be the leader of Ukraine and would make sure there were no retributions from Moscow.
That is what all the talk about Ukraine (!!) being admitted to NATO was all about.
*It's always at least a little bit about the money.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 12:18 PM (uCjyK)
Yeah, and all of this was part of the weaseling Mike Johnson was doing before the election. How much of a future guarantee did he give away in some of those bills they were passing?
I don't know. I'm not sure anyone knows just yet.
State or CIA probably told Zelensky that if he played his part here, they would let him be the leader of Ukraine and would make sure there were no retributions from Moscow.
That is what all the talk about Ukraine (!!) being admitted to NATO was all about.
*It's always at least a little bit about the money.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 12:18 PM (uCjyK)
Yeah, and all of this was part of the weaseling Mike Johnson was doing before the election. How much of a future guarantee did he give away in some of those bills they were passing?
I don't know. I'm not sure anyone knows just yet.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:22 PM (p2iSj)
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>>>Ukraine $500 billion rare earth mineral same....
https://tinyurl.com/mpanets4
Posted by: Dan Crenshaw at March 01, 2025 11:59 AM (9ptcg)
Heh. This comports with my geological training and experience, too. The "mineral wealth" of Ukraine is largely hypothetical, and is more of a statistical estimate than based on actual ground truth.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
>We heard all of this bullshit about Afghanistan so many years ago.
Resources and infrastructure are miles apart.
Fuck it; let's just start throwing some daisy cutters in there to get the process rolling.
History has proved this works, right?
https://tinyurl.com/mpanets4
Posted by: Dan Crenshaw at March 01, 2025 11:59 AM (9ptcg)
Heh. This comports with my geological training and experience, too. The "mineral wealth" of Ukraine is largely hypothetical, and is more of a statistical estimate than based on actual ground truth.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
>We heard all of this bullshit about Afghanistan so many years ago.
Resources and infrastructure are miles apart.
Fuck it; let's just start throwing some daisy cutters in there to get the process rolling.
History has proved this works, right?
Posted by: Rev Wishbone at March 01, 2025 12:23 PM (fY84s)
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However... with the Epstein stuff, the Feebs literally went to the island (and I assume the ranch in New Mexico, and the townhouse in NYC), and seized a stadium sized load of hard drives, cameras, paper files, and everything that wasn't nailed down.
Where are those?
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:18 PM (p2iSj)
NYPD raided Epsteins house and broke his safe. According to the Prosecutors during Epsteins bail hearings (and NYPD cops off the record), there was money, diamonds, a Saudi passport, and -- a "vast trove" of nude photos showing young girls, at least some with men. Additionally, a bunch of labeled CD's were found.
That should help us figure out who Epstein was blackmailing.
Where are those images and CD's?
https://tinyurl.com/8v726y4e
Where are those?
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:18 PM (p2iSj)
NYPD raided Epsteins house and broke his safe. According to the Prosecutors during Epsteins bail hearings (and NYPD cops off the record), there was money, diamonds, a Saudi passport, and -- a "vast trove" of nude photos showing young girls, at least some with men. Additionally, a bunch of labeled CD's were found.
That should help us figure out who Epstein was blackmailing.
Where are those images and CD's?
https://tinyurl.com/8v726y4e
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 12:23 PM (uCjyK)
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Many people can use a good diet to avoid the need for cardio altogether. Sadly they take the opposite idea, eat shit everyday and try to make up for it on the treadmill. The math is very discouraging on this approach.
I went to a crossfit gym in 2015, and there was a guy with a huge belly. He did all the exercises with zest, and was a long-time member.
The thing about diets is there are a hundred ways of doing it. You don't have to like any of them, but you can pick your favorite. I don't eat late at night unless my schedule has been disrupted.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 01, 2025 12:16 PM
Different meal plans and lifestyles work for different people. But my opinion is that everyone simply needs to find their caloric intake level for maintenance and for losing weight. Those changed for me through the course of my weight loss efforts over the past 3 years. I started out losing weight on a 2500 calorie meal plan. Then I leveled off with weight loss when I was down to 300lbs. Then I went down to 2200 calorie meal plan and started losing again. Until I leveled off again around 280. Then brought myself down to 2000 calorie plan.
This has worked for me.
I went to a crossfit gym in 2015, and there was a guy with a huge belly. He did all the exercises with zest, and was a long-time member.
The thing about diets is there are a hundred ways of doing it. You don't have to like any of them, but you can pick your favorite. I don't eat late at night unless my schedule has been disrupted.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 01, 2025 12:16 PM
Different meal plans and lifestyles work for different people. But my opinion is that everyone simply needs to find their caloric intake level for maintenance and for losing weight. Those changed for me through the course of my weight loss efforts over the past 3 years. I started out losing weight on a 2500 calorie meal plan. Then I leveled off with weight loss when I was down to 300lbs. Then I went down to 2200 calorie meal plan and started losing again. Until I leveled off again around 280. Then brought myself down to 2000 calorie plan.
This has worked for me.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 01, 2025 12:23 PM (P5BPp)
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Somebody posted on X that "Europe" was already a military superpower, and didn't need the United States, and provided data on how big the "European" armed forces already were.
EU GDP: $19.4T
Russian GDP: $2.2T
So if Europe is afraid of Russia's military they could put together a military 5-10X Russia's easily.
But...they won't, because they aren't.
EU GDP: $19.4T
Russian GDP: $2.2T
So if Europe is afraid of Russia's military they could put together a military 5-10X Russia's easily.
But...they won't, because they aren't.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 01, 2025 12:24 PM (t0Rmr)
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I've wanted Black Pearl Necklace in prison since 2012 and Benghazi.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky
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I've wanted her shot since before that.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky
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I've wanted her shot since before that.
Posted by: From about That Time at March 01, 2025 12:24 PM (n4GiU)
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NYPD raided Epsteins house and broke his safe. According to the Prosecutors during Epsteins bail hearings (and NYPD cops off the record), there was money, diamonds, a Saudi passport, and -- a "vast trove" of nude photos showing young girls, at least some with men. Additionally, a bunch of labeled CD's were found.
That should help us figure out who Epstein was blackmailing.
Where are those images and CD's?
https://tinyurl.com/8v726y4e
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 12:23 PM (uCjyK)
There's video of them on the island, after Epstein "died," removing boxes and boxes and boxes of stuff.
That should help us figure out who Epstein was blackmailing.
Where are those images and CD's?
https://tinyurl.com/8v726y4e
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 12:23 PM (uCjyK)
There's video of them on the island, after Epstein "died," removing boxes and boxes and boxes of stuff.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:25 PM (p2iSj)
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>And now, unexpectedly, both Portland government and Portland's county government are running large budget deficits.
Many are moving out and coming to Washington State. Ahhh...bad move. We are now the 7th most taxed state in the union. Worse if you live near Seattle.
And the Governor is talking a state employee furlough. Almost like he fears a state-level DOGE.
He should.
Many are moving out and coming to Washington State. Ahhh...bad move. We are now the 7th most taxed state in the union. Worse if you live near Seattle.
And the Governor is talking a state employee furlough. Almost like he fears a state-level DOGE.
He should.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 01, 2025 12:25 PM (W/lyH)
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I rag on Bondi and Patel a bit because literally everyone knew the FBI would fuck things up for them. Yet, they persisted in a poorly thought out dog and pony show with "conservative influencers." Totally cringe.
I'm hopeful they both have learned something about the conservative public's expectations. We're done with playing nice and expect retribution, not some sort of silliness with binders and goofy social media personalities.
I also hope the two of them are royally pissed off at the FBI office in NY that was purported to be responsible for not disclosing all the files they have (had) or whatever. Use that hate. Whether all this was some sort of 8-D chess to justify a FBI purge is debatable.
I'm hopeful they both have learned something about the conservative public's expectations. We're done with playing nice and expect retribution, not some sort of silliness with binders and goofy social media personalities.
I also hope the two of them are royally pissed off at the FBI office in NY that was purported to be responsible for not disclosing all the files they have (had) or whatever. Use that hate. Whether all this was some sort of 8-D chess to justify a FBI purge is debatable.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 01, 2025 12:26 PM (Q4IgG)
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Somebody posted on X that "Europe" was already a military superpower, and didn't need the United States, and provided data on how big the "European" armed forces already were.
Pretty sure he included the Turkish military in "Europe", which may be a bit problematic.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 01, 2025 12:19 PM (uxCna)
Yes, I agree. They're a superpower, they'll do great. Time to take off the training wheels, world war two was 80 years ago. Fish gotta swim and birds gotta fly.
Europe, if you can't mesh together a reasonable military to fight off any perceived Russian threat, then you don't deserve to exist anymore. Enough of relying on American money, American equipment, and American men to defend yourselves.
Pretty sure he included the Turkish military in "Europe", which may be a bit problematic.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 01, 2025 12:19 PM (uxCna)
Yes, I agree. They're a superpower, they'll do great. Time to take off the training wheels, world war two was 80 years ago. Fish gotta swim and birds gotta fly.
Europe, if you can't mesh together a reasonable military to fight off any perceived Russian threat, then you don't deserve to exist anymore. Enough of relying on American money, American equipment, and American men to defend yourselves.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 12:27 PM (uCjyK)
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In case it hasn't been posted lately, here's Kamala in 2022 explaining the situation in Ukraine:
https://youtube.com/shorts/aPc19mdDIRA
https://youtube.com/shorts/aPc19mdDIRA
Posted by: Rex B at March 01, 2025 12:27 PM (bhV/D)
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Resources and infrastructure are miles apart.
Fuck it; let's just start throwing some daisy cutters in there to get the process rolling.
History has proved this works, right?
Posted by: Rev Wishbone at March 01, 2025 12:23 PM (fY84s)
"Resources" aren't really resources until they have been proven by drilling to the point that they constitute money in the bank.
Fuck it; let's just start throwing some daisy cutters in there to get the process rolling.
History has proved this works, right?
Posted by: Rev Wishbone at March 01, 2025 12:23 PM (fY84s)
"Resources" aren't really resources until they have been proven by drilling to the point that they constitute money in the bank.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 01, 2025 12:27 PM (8zz6B)
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Diabetes as a term for abnormal glucose metabolism involves a complex series of interrelated factors and is not a simple linear equation.
Obesity is only one factor, and relates to the interactions between insulin vs. glucagon and the various cell surface receptors that those hormones interact with.
Obesity is only one factor, and relates to the interactions between insulin vs. glucagon and the various cell surface receptors that those hormones interact with.
Posted by: muldoon at March 01, 2025 12:27 PM (/iMjX)
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These are things we don't yet know, but anyone claiming we're not getting info because Bondi and Patel are not trying hard enough, doesn't know what they're talking about.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:10 PM (p2iSj)
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But after what has happened, that whole office has to be fired. Period. Make them think Genghis Khan just showed up. No mercy at all.
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These are things we don't yet know, but anyone claiming we're not getting info because Bondi and Patel are not trying hard enough, doesn't know what they're talking about.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:10 PM (p2iSj)
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But after what has happened, that whole office has to be fired. Period. Make them think Genghis Khan just showed up. No mercy at all.
Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2025 12:27 PM (1bNHn)
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I rag on Bondi and Patel a bit because literally everyone knew the FBI would fuck things up for them. Yet, they persisted in a poorly thought out dog and pony show with "conservative influencers." Totally cringe.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 01, 2025 12:26 PM (Q4IgG)
Yeah, nobody forced them to come out and say they were going to be releasing stuff on a certain date. Only to have that day come and go, with nothing new being released.
That was definitely an unforced error.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 01, 2025 12:26 PM (Q4IgG)
Yeah, nobody forced them to come out and say they were going to be releasing stuff on a certain date. Only to have that day come and go, with nothing new being released.
That was definitely an unforced error.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:28 PM (p2iSj)
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There's video of them on the island, after Epstein "died," removing boxes and boxes and boxes of stuff.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:25 PM (p2iSj)
Right. They clearly have a lot of documents. And the entire point of Epstein's operation was to blackmail people, so I am SURE those blackmail materials (likely video files somewhere) exist.
I would assume the FBI would hunt those leads down vigorously. (lol).
So, uh, where are the documents? Epstein is dead, Ghislaine was convicted, and it doesn't look like anyone else is being investigated, so there is really no "active investigation" excuse. These files should be FOIA'able at this point. Right?
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:25 PM (p2iSj)
Right. They clearly have a lot of documents. And the entire point of Epstein's operation was to blackmail people, so I am SURE those blackmail materials (likely video files somewhere) exist.
I would assume the FBI would hunt those leads down vigorously. (lol).
So, uh, where are the documents? Epstein is dead, Ghislaine was convicted, and it doesn't look like anyone else is being investigated, so there is really no "active investigation" excuse. These files should be FOIA'able at this point. Right?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 12:29 PM (uCjyK)
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But after what has happened, that whole office has to be fired. Period. Make them think Genghis Khan just showed up. No mercy at all.
Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2025 12:27 PM (1bNHn)
I don't know what that's supposed to mean.
Bondi is a lawyer. I assume, so is Patel.
They're not warriors. They do law.
Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2025 12:27 PM (1bNHn)
I don't know what that's supposed to mean.
Bondi is a lawyer. I assume, so is Patel.
They're not warriors. They do law.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:29 PM (p2iSj)
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Yeah, nobody forced them to come out and say they were going to be releasing stuff on a certain date. Only to have that day come and go, with nothing new being released.
It would be interesting to know which of the following is true
1) Bondi was told she'd get everything by that date and assumed they were being honest
2) Bondi knew there were files held by other people and assumed setting a public date would force them to do it
3) Bondi didn't bother to check that she had all her documents until after the release
#1 is bad and something establishment Reps constantly do
#2 is better, but still shows a lack of understand of what she is up against
#3 is almost a firing offense
It would be interesting to know which of the following is true
1) Bondi was told she'd get everything by that date and assumed they were being honest
2) Bondi knew there were files held by other people and assumed setting a public date would force them to do it
3) Bondi didn't bother to check that she had all her documents until after the release
#1 is bad and something establishment Reps constantly do
#2 is better, but still shows a lack of understand of what she is up against
#3 is almost a firing offense
Posted by: 18-1 at March 01, 2025 12:30 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2025 12:31 PM (Cki93)
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Yeah, nobody forced them to come out and say they were going to be releasing stuff on a certain date. Only to have that day come and go, with nothing new being released.
That was definitely an unforced error.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:28 PM (p2iSj)
I'd say it was no error at all. They gave the Fibbies a deadline, and the Fibbies blew it off, so now they can all be fired for cause.
That was definitely an unforced error.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:28 PM (p2iSj)
I'd say it was no error at all. They gave the Fibbies a deadline, and the Fibbies blew it off, so now they can all be fired for cause.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 01, 2025 12:31 PM (8zz6B)
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>>>In case it hasn't been posted lately, here's Kamala in 2022 explaining the situation in Ukraine:
https://youtube.com/shorts/aPc19mdDIRA
Posted by: Rex B
>This is like some Amy Schumer level comedy. I'm crying here!
https://youtube.com/shorts/aPc19mdDIRA
Posted by: Rex B
>This is like some Amy Schumer level comedy. I'm crying here!
Posted by: Rev Wishbone at March 01, 2025 12:31 PM (fY84s)
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So, uh, where are the documents? Epstein is dead, Ghislaine was convicted, and it doesn't look like anyone else is being investigated, so there is really no "active investigation" excuse. These files should be FOIA'able at this point. Right?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 12:29 PM (uCjyK)
One would assume, but yeah, that's the mentality of the feds, and has been for some time. If we call it an "active investigation," we expect you to stop asking questions, stop expecting FOIA requests to be honored.
Up until now, it's worked.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 12:29 PM (uCjyK)
One would assume, but yeah, that's the mentality of the feds, and has been for some time. If we call it an "active investigation," we expect you to stop asking questions, stop expecting FOIA requests to be honored.
Up until now, it's worked.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:31 PM (p2iSj)
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Today is March 1 and still no unredacted Epstein documents.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 01, 2025 12:06 PM (/U5Yz)
The FBI NY field office ignored Bondi, didn’t they?
All hell will break loose.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 01, 2025 12:06 PM (/U5Yz)
The FBI NY field office ignored Bondi, didn’t they?
All hell will break loose.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 01, 2025 12:31 PM (l3YAf)
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I rag on Bondi and Patel a bit because literally everyone knew the FBI would fuck things up for them. Yet, they persisted in a poorly thought out dog and pony show with "conservative influencers." Totally cringe.
I'm hopeful they both have learned something about the conservative public's expectations.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 01, 2025 12:26 PM
Something I learned week 1 on the job out of college in 1999:
"Under-promise and overproduce."
For example, I was a designer. Even if I knew something would take me 2 days to complete, promise it will done in a week. That way, if something goes wrong (computer issues, data goes corrupt and need to begin again, IT problem, etc.), I have that buffer to account for unexpected problems and still get the job done by the date promised. And if nothing goes wrong and I get it done in the 2 days as expected, I look great by delivering the design 3 days before promised.
Bondi and Patel should have known better than to make promises they couldn't keep. At the same time, "conservative" "influencers" need to be ignored. They don't really care about anything other than causing drama and getting clicks/views.
I'm hopeful they both have learned something about the conservative public's expectations.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 01, 2025 12:26 PM
Something I learned week 1 on the job out of college in 1999:
"Under-promise and overproduce."
For example, I was a designer. Even if I knew something would take me 2 days to complete, promise it will done in a week. That way, if something goes wrong (computer issues, data goes corrupt and need to begin again, IT problem, etc.), I have that buffer to account for unexpected problems and still get the job done by the date promised. And if nothing goes wrong and I get it done in the 2 days as expected, I look great by delivering the design 3 days before promised.
Bondi and Patel should have known better than to make promises they couldn't keep. At the same time, "conservative" "influencers" need to be ignored. They don't really care about anything other than causing drama and getting clicks/views.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 01, 2025 12:32 PM (P5BPp)
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>>Many are moving out and coming to Washington State. Ahhh...bad move.
Seem to recall a Commie Seattle city councilwoman pushing for a tax on Amazon to pay for her pet projects.
Seem to recall a Commie Seattle city councilwoman pushing for a tax on Amazon to pay for her pet projects.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2025 12:33 PM (Cki93)
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Do we have a word for people who support the post WWII power structure of "international cooperation" where the US is nominally in charge, but everyone is getting rich off endless wars and foreign aid, and no one gives a fuck what the US taxpayer and voter thinks about any of this?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Hmm, that word has to include Americans as well as operators from every continent except Antarctica and possibly Australia.
Some word that encompasses parasitism, opportunism, thievery, cliquishness, classism, jealousy, hypocrisy, dishonesty, short-sightedness, rapacity, monstrous self-interest, high-handedness, a dash of inhumanity, a pinch of bloodlust, and physical unattractiveness in addition to the ideological elements you've named. We may need a new word.
Do we have a word for people who support the post WWII power structure of "international cooperation" where the US is nominally in charge, but everyone is getting rich off endless wars and foreign aid, and no one gives a fuck what the US taxpayer and voter thinks about any of this?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Hmm, that word has to include Americans as well as operators from every continent except Antarctica and possibly Australia.
Some word that encompasses parasitism, opportunism, thievery, cliquishness, classism, jealousy, hypocrisy, dishonesty, short-sightedness, rapacity, monstrous self-interest, high-handedness, a dash of inhumanity, a pinch of bloodlust, and physical unattractiveness in addition to the ideological elements you've named. We may need a new word.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 01, 2025 12:33 PM (lCaJd)
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It would be interesting to know which of the following is true
1) Bondi was told she'd get everything by that date and assumed they were being honest
2) Bondi knew there were files held by other people and assumed setting a public date would force them to do it
3) Bondi didn't bother to check that she had all her documents until after the release
#1 is bad and something establishment Reps constantly do
#2 is better, but still shows a lack of understand of what she is up against
#3 is almost a firing offense
Posted by: 18-1 at March 01, 2025 12:30 PM (t0Rmr)
That's a good summary. Bottom line, nobody forced her to make any public statements about what we could expect.
Unless there's an Option 4 we don't know about, yeah, this was a mistake (to one degree or another) on her part.
1) Bondi was told she'd get everything by that date and assumed they were being honest
2) Bondi knew there were files held by other people and assumed setting a public date would force them to do it
3) Bondi didn't bother to check that she had all her documents until after the release
#1 is bad and something establishment Reps constantly do
#2 is better, but still shows a lack of understand of what she is up against
#3 is almost a firing offense
Posted by: 18-1 at March 01, 2025 12:30 PM (t0Rmr)
That's a good summary. Bottom line, nobody forced her to make any public statements about what we could expect.
Unless there's an Option 4 we don't know about, yeah, this was a mistake (to one degree or another) on her part.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:34 PM (p2iSj)
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97 That's the system we had in World War Two - in early 1944, Patton held the temporary rank of lieutenant general, with the permanent rank of colonel. (He was promoted to the permanent rank of major general on August 16, 1944.)
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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Yep. Field appointments versus peacetime rank.
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 11:33 AM (ctrM5)
I was a Reserve Captain and a Regular Army Second Lieutenant when I resigned. There are three armies; Regular, Reserve and AUS, (Army of the US, comprised of both). I was Regular.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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Yep. Field appointments versus peacetime rank.
Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 11:33 AM (ctrM5)
I was a Reserve Captain and a Regular Army Second Lieutenant when I resigned. There are three armies; Regular, Reserve and AUS, (Army of the US, comprised of both). I was Regular.
Posted by: Javems at March 01, 2025 12:34 PM (8I4hW)
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"You don't start to renegotiate the deal. Whoever gave Z-man the advice to ask for more (some Dems or the EU most likely) really screwed him over."
There was no deal. I think Zelensky had been given the impression Trump had some cunning plan that would end the war with a guarantee that Russia wouldn't just pause and re-arm for a few years and then march straight back in, and if he signed the minerals deal Trump would proceed with it. Turned out, laughably, the minerals deal *was* the security guarantee. Which means Ukraine is screwed, as the US is washing their hands, and Putin doesn't see any need to respect any deal or Treaty not backed up by military force and boots on the ground. Certainly not bothered by a few American miners. Everyone knows this, which is why we were so happy for the opportunity to cut them back without WW3 or our own lives at risk. But now it's job done and f Ukraine. US weapons are losing. We have no plan. You're fkd. Putin wins. It's like Obama and Iran all over again.
There was no deal. I think Zelensky had been given the impression Trump had some cunning plan that would end the war with a guarantee that Russia wouldn't just pause and re-arm for a few years and then march straight back in, and if he signed the minerals deal Trump would proceed with it. Turned out, laughably, the minerals deal *was* the security guarantee. Which means Ukraine is screwed, as the US is washing their hands, and Putin doesn't see any need to respect any deal or Treaty not backed up by military force and boots on the ground. Certainly not bothered by a few American miners. Everyone knows this, which is why we were so happy for the opportunity to cut them back without WW3 or our own lives at risk. But now it's job done and f Ukraine. US weapons are losing. We have no plan. You're fkd. Putin wins. It's like Obama and Iran all over again.
Posted by: Realpolitik at March 01, 2025 12:34 PM (99Qm2)
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Posted by: 18-1 at March 01, 2025 12:30 PM (t0Rmr)
Based on historical performances of our DC betters, I'm going with a combination of #1 and #3, but also a bit of #4 which is "everyone knows we can't release this information as it implicates too many important people. So we'll just pretend to comply because Trump told us to. Then we'll act shocked when people aren't happy with the info and we'll blame some rogue agents in NYC."
Because let's be real -- it's 2025. This information is digitized and not localized to some file room in NYC. It should be completely accessible to anyone with the proper clearance from DC. And the originals of everything (photos, CD's, etc.) are labeled and stored in an FBI warehouse somewhere, also likely not in NYC.
So they really don't need the NYC field office of the FBI for this.
And if everything is not where it's supposed to be, people should be getting fired and/or arrested.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 01, 2025 12:30 PM (t0Rmr)
Based on historical performances of our DC betters, I'm going with a combination of #1 and #3, but also a bit of #4 which is "everyone knows we can't release this information as it implicates too many important people. So we'll just pretend to comply because Trump told us to. Then we'll act shocked when people aren't happy with the info and we'll blame some rogue agents in NYC."
Because let's be real -- it's 2025. This information is digitized and not localized to some file room in NYC. It should be completely accessible to anyone with the proper clearance from DC. And the originals of everything (photos, CD's, etc.) are labeled and stored in an FBI warehouse somewhere, also likely not in NYC.
So they really don't need the NYC field office of the FBI for this.
And if everything is not where it's supposed to be, people should be getting fired and/or arrested.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 12:35 PM (uCjyK)
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I'd say it was no error at all. They gave the Fibbies a deadline, and the Fibbies blew it off, so now they can all be fired for cause.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 01, 2025 12:31 PM (8zz6B)
Are you really expecting them to be fired for this?
I'm not. But I'm willing to admit I'm wrong if it happens.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 01, 2025 12:31 PM (8zz6B)
Are you really expecting them to be fired for this?
I'm not. But I'm willing to admit I'm wrong if it happens.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:35 PM (p2iSj)
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I was a Reserve Captain and a Regular Army Second Lieutenant when I resigned. There are three armies; Regular, Reserve and AUS, (Army of the US, comprised of both). I was Regular.
Posted by: Javems at March 01, 2025 12:34 PM (8I4hW)
I was a private when I went up to my drill sgt. and said "I'd like to resign."
He said "Get your ass back in formation, and do your pushups like everybody else!"
Posted by: Javems at March 01, 2025 12:34 PM (8I4hW)
I was a private when I went up to my drill sgt. and said "I'd like to resign."
He said "Get your ass back in formation, and do your pushups like everybody else!"
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:37 PM (p2iSj)
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Are you really expecting them to be fired for this?
I'm not. But I'm willing to admit I'm wrong if it happens.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:35 PM (p2iSj)
I expect to see some firings in the week to come, yes.
I'm not. But I'm willing to admit I'm wrong if it happens.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:35 PM (p2iSj)
I expect to see some firings in the week to come, yes.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 01, 2025 12:38 PM (8zz6B)
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254 But after what has happened, that whole office has to be fired. Period. Make them think Genghis Khan just showed up. No mercy at all.
Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2025 12:27 PM (1bNHn)
I don't know what that's supposed to mean.
Bondi is a lawyer. I assume, so is Patel.
They're not warriors. They do law.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:29 PM (p2iSj)
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It's figurative speech. Literally: not a single person in the NY office that handled it should have a job on Monday. And whoever can be indicted, should be.
Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2025 12:27 PM (1bNHn)
I don't know what that's supposed to mean.
Bondi is a lawyer. I assume, so is Patel.
They're not warriors. They do law.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:29 PM (p2iSj)
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It's figurative speech. Literally: not a single person in the NY office that handled it should have a job on Monday. And whoever can be indicted, should be.
Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2025 12:39 PM (1bNHn)
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Has lil Z always spelled his name with two Ys at the end? Or is this a new thing?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 01, 2025 12:40 PM (IZEnm)
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US weapons are losing. Putin wins. And it's just like bammy and Iran. Good grief, this makes zero sense.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at March 01, 2025 12:40 PM (2NHgQ)
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I think you guys are forgetting that this information was collected, allegedly, as part of a criminal investigation.
The FBI is not the CIA.
That means the FBI would have to follow chain of custody procedures and everything else the courts would require for someone to be convicted based off the information.
So should be an EXTENSIVE evidence list with full details about who touched what, when, and for what reason, everything that was turned over in discovery should be bates stamped with an index, everything that was not turned over should be identified as such and also stamped and indexed.
It's not like this information could just disappear in the normal course of events.
If it is gone, that should be a major MAJOR scandal involving public trials and dismantling of the FBI.
The FBI is not the CIA.
That means the FBI would have to follow chain of custody procedures and everything else the courts would require for someone to be convicted based off the information.
So should be an EXTENSIVE evidence list with full details about who touched what, when, and for what reason, everything that was turned over in discovery should be bates stamped with an index, everything that was not turned over should be identified as such and also stamped and indexed.
It's not like this information could just disappear in the normal course of events.
If it is gone, that should be a major MAJOR scandal involving public trials and dismantling of the FBI.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 12:41 PM (uCjyK)
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Is NATO dead?
Yup.
Trump sees the U.S. becoming a third world basket case within a decade because of deficit spending, so he needs to triage defense spending while ramping up the economy.
What Euroweenies take for granted is the fact that the last 80 years the U.S. has taken the burden in lives and treasure on two fronts, eastern Europe (NATO) and exclusively the Pacific Rim.
The realignment has to do with seeing China as the primary threat to world peace and the fact that deficit spending has to end soon, and we need to permanently boost our GNP.
Putin is a former KGB monster, but that does not mean he is insane and doesn't have legitimate gripes about NATO's incremental expansion eastward up to Ukraine violating the 1990 agreements that eastern European countries (e.g. Poland, Hungary, Baltic state remain neural.) The fact that American hardware was used by Ukraine to strike targets in Russia should rightfully cause us to recalibrate our risks and rewards accordingly.
Yup.
Trump sees the U.S. becoming a third world basket case within a decade because of deficit spending, so he needs to triage defense spending while ramping up the economy.
What Euroweenies take for granted is the fact that the last 80 years the U.S. has taken the burden in lives and treasure on two fronts, eastern Europe (NATO) and exclusively the Pacific Rim.
The realignment has to do with seeing China as the primary threat to world peace and the fact that deficit spending has to end soon, and we need to permanently boost our GNP.
Putin is a former KGB monster, but that does not mean he is insane and doesn't have legitimate gripes about NATO's incremental expansion eastward up to Ukraine violating the 1990 agreements that eastern European countries (e.g. Poland, Hungary, Baltic state remain neural.) The fact that American hardware was used by Ukraine to strike targets in Russia should rightfully cause us to recalibrate our risks and rewards accordingly.
Posted by: Willie Stark at March 01, 2025 12:41 PM (P9+JS)
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I disagree about the number of flag officers. It's an old way of making sure you have enough decent ones by keeping too many. The trouble isn't the number holding the rank, but the number employed.
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Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 12:35 PM (uCjyK)
I'm gonna go with option 5. As much as we'd all like the Marines to go in and kill everyone, they have to work somewhat through the system. No one wants to admit it but areas of the country are pretty much in rebellion against the government.
The actions they've taken are the ones that they think will get the best resolution the soonest. People on the internet, based on no information whatsoever, will bitch regardless of what they do. I'm just gonna wait and see.
I'm gonna go with option 5. As much as we'd all like the Marines to go in and kill everyone, they have to work somewhat through the system. No one wants to admit it but areas of the country are pretty much in rebellion against the government.
The actions they've taken are the ones that they think will get the best resolution the soonest. People on the internet, based on no information whatsoever, will bitch regardless of what they do. I'm just gonna wait and see.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 12:41 PM (ExV1e)
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Bottom line, nobody forced her to make any public statements about what we could expect.
Posted by: BurtTC
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I have a vague recollection that events got ahead of her or someone made a leak-like statement that more or less forced her to issue that initial response that she had the files on her desk and was reviewing them.
THAT said, it would be idiotic to expect to get those files by writing a letter. Yes, she should have shown up at people's houses at 5:00 am, rousted them out of bed, and pushed them in their pajamas at gunpoint down to FBI offices and choked the files out of them.
Bottom line, nobody forced her to make any public statements about what we could expect.
Posted by: BurtTC
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I have a vague recollection that events got ahead of her or someone made a leak-like statement that more or less forced her to issue that initial response that she had the files on her desk and was reviewing them.
THAT said, it would be idiotic to expect to get those files by writing a letter. Yes, she should have shown up at people's houses at 5:00 am, rousted them out of bed, and pushed them in their pajamas at gunpoint down to FBI offices and choked the files out of them.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 01, 2025 12:41 PM (lCaJd)
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Because let's be real -- it's 2025. This information is digitized and not localized to some file room in NYC. It should be completely accessible to anyone with the proper clearance from DC. And the originals of everything (photos, CD's, etc.) are labeled and stored in an FBI warehouse somewhere, also likely not in NYC.
So they really don't need the NYC field office of the FBI for this.
And if everything is not where it's supposed to be, people should be getting fired and/or arrested.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 12:35 PM (uCjyK)
I keep going back to the assassinations. In '77, the Church Committee asked the FBI for the original ballistic tests, and fragments in their possession.
Oops! They couldn't find them!
Then when people started asking questions about the RFK murder, they asked for the door panels and ceiling tiles that had bullet holes in them... well shoot, they're gone. There wasn't enough room, so they tossed them in the trash. After all Sirhan Sirhan was already "tried" and convicted. Case closed, man.
So they really don't need the NYC field office of the FBI for this.
And if everything is not where it's supposed to be, people should be getting fired and/or arrested.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 12:35 PM (uCjyK)
I keep going back to the assassinations. In '77, the Church Committee asked the FBI for the original ballistic tests, and fragments in their possession.
Oops! They couldn't find them!
Then when people started asking questions about the RFK murder, they asked for the door panels and ceiling tiles that had bullet holes in them... well shoot, they're gone. There wasn't enough room, so they tossed them in the trash. After all Sirhan Sirhan was already "tried" and convicted. Case closed, man.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:41 PM (6tRK7)
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>> But now it's job done and f Ukraine. US weapons are losing. We have no plan. You're fkd. Putin wins.
🥳
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Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 01, 2025 12:42 PM (l3YAf)
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Putin is a former KGB monster,
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Is he?
From what I’ve seen and read he was a low level agent stationed in E. Germany. Didn’t really do anything.
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Is he?
From what I’ve seen and read he was a low level agent stationed in E. Germany. Didn’t really do anything.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 01, 2025 12:43 PM (IZEnm)
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US weapons are losing. Putin wins. And it's just like bammy and Iran. Good grief, this makes zero sense.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at March 01, 2025 12:40 PM (2NHgQ)
I'm not sure I'm following what you're saying but you really should try to come to terms with the idea that Putin is not our enemy.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at March 01, 2025 12:40 PM (2NHgQ)
I'm not sure I'm following what you're saying but you really should try to come to terms with the idea that Putin is not our enemy.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 12:43 PM (ExV1e)
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THAT said, it would be idiotic to expect to get those files by writing a letter. Yes, she should have shown up at people's houses at 5:00 am, rousted them out of bed, and pushed them in their pajamas at gunpoint down to FBI offices and choked the files out of them.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 01, 2025 12:41 PM (lCaJd)
I like the way you think. Maybe you should be Attorney General.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 01, 2025 12:41 PM (lCaJd)
I like the way you think. Maybe you should be Attorney General.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 01, 2025 12:44 PM (l3YAf)
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I totally agree AH. The Army needs to revert back to a cadre and reserve system which is much more affordable as personnel costs are a major component of defense spending. Given the risks to tanks, etc. from a drone filled battlefield, it makes more sense to actually seriously reconsider army weapons procurement, training, and strategies in light of what is going on in Ukraine.
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Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 11:00 AM (ctrM5)
Cadre-sized? The same sized Army that we had in 1939?
China, NK, and Russia would love that. No.
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Posted by: whig at March 01, 2025 11:00 AM (ctrM5)
Cadre-sized? The same sized Army that we had in 1939?
China, NK, and Russia would love that. No.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 12:44 PM (rj6Yv)
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220 Are they hidden? Are they destroyed? Are there people in the building who KNOW where they are, and can lead Pam and Kash right to them?
As Musk pointed out, it is hard to delete files in a large organization.
Lots of backups in odd places, and I bet NSA captured the transmission of those documents at one point or another.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 01, 2025 12:12 PM (uxCna)
The Cloud I shout calmly.
As Musk pointed out, it is hard to delete files in a large organization.
Lots of backups in odd places, and I bet NSA captured the transmission of those documents at one point or another.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 01, 2025 12:12 PM (uxCna)
The Cloud I shout calmly.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at March 01, 2025 12:44 PM (6PCLE)
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I expect to see some firings in the week to come, yes.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 01, 2025 12:38 PM (8zz6B)
We shall, as they say, see.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 01, 2025 12:38 PM (8zz6B)
We shall, as they say, see.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:44 PM (6tRK7)
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US weapons are losing. Putin wins. And it's just like bammy and Iran. Good grief, this makes zero sense.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at March 01, 2025 12:40 PM (2NHgQ)
google translate choked
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at March 01, 2025 12:40 PM (2NHgQ)
google translate choked
Posted by: runner at March 01, 2025 12:45 PM (g47mK)
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I have a vague recollection that events got ahead of her or someone made a leak-like statement that more or less forced her to issue that initial response that she had the files on her desk and was reviewing them.
THAT said, it would be idiotic to expect to get those files by writing a letter. Yes, she should have shown up at people's houses at 5:00 am, rousted them out of bed, and pushed them in their pajamas at gunpoint down to FBI offices and choked the files out of them.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 01, 2025 12:41 PM (lCaJd)
At this point I assume there's a good explanation for what happened. I'm not inclined to think she's made an egregious mistake, but I'd still call it a mistake on her part.
THAT said, it would be idiotic to expect to get those files by writing a letter. Yes, she should have shown up at people's houses at 5:00 am, rousted them out of bed, and pushed them in their pajamas at gunpoint down to FBI offices and choked the files out of them.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 01, 2025 12:41 PM (lCaJd)
At this point I assume there's a good explanation for what happened. I'm not inclined to think she's made an egregious mistake, but I'd still call it a mistake on her part.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:45 PM (6tRK7)
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EU GDP: $19.4T
Russian GDP: $2.2T
So if Europe is afraid of Russia's military they could put together a military 5-10X Russia's easily.
But...they won't, because they aren't.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 01, 2025 12:24 PM (t0Rmr)
GDP is not a good indication of the size of the economy, because in places like the EU the GDP includes government spending, which is not supported by any real production, just taxation and printing. It also ignores things like farmer's markets, swaps and underground economy which in Russia is huge.
Not really black market, just "off the books like Dad used to do"
If 25% of your GDP is government spending from taxes, then that is 13% redirection of funds, and 12% of destruction of wealth by taxation
Russian GDP: $2.2T
So if Europe is afraid of Russia's military they could put together a military 5-10X Russia's easily.
But...they won't, because they aren't.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 01, 2025 12:24 PM (t0Rmr)
GDP is not a good indication of the size of the economy, because in places like the EU the GDP includes government spending, which is not supported by any real production, just taxation and printing. It also ignores things like farmer's markets, swaps and underground economy which in Russia is huge.
Not really black market, just "off the books like Dad used to do"
If 25% of your GDP is government spending from taxes, then that is 13% redirection of funds, and 12% of destruction of wealth by taxation
Posted by: Kindltot at March 01, 2025 12:45 PM (D7oie)
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Putin is a former KGB monster...
"Putin and his colleagues were reduced mainly to collecting press clippings, thus contributing to the mountains of useless information produced by the KGB", Russian-American Masha Gessen wrote in their 2012 biography of Putin.
Scary.
"Putin and his colleagues were reduced mainly to collecting press clippings, thus contributing to the mountains of useless information produced by the KGB", Russian-American Masha Gessen wrote in their 2012 biography of Putin.
Scary.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 12:46 PM (ExV1e)
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As Musk pointed out, it is hard to delete files in a large organization.
Lots of backups in odd places, and I bet NSA captured the transmission of those documents
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NSA aside I disagree. It’s easy as shit to delete things in a big org because nobody will miss the data. And it’s the government. Do we really think there’s this multi layered automatic backup system for their files? Keep in mind this is the same government that still uses COBOL for some operations.
Lots of backups in odd places, and I bet NSA captured the transmission of those documents
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NSA aside I disagree. It’s easy as shit to delete things in a big org because nobody will miss the data. And it’s the government. Do we really think there’s this multi layered automatic backup system for their files? Keep in mind this is the same government that still uses COBOL for some operations.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 01, 2025 12:47 PM (IZEnm)
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Has lil Z always spelled his name with two Ys at the end? Or is this a new thing?
*********
Maybe he's just a y's guy...
...nyuk, nyuk
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Maybe he's just a y's guy...
...nyuk, nyuk
Posted by: muldoon at March 01, 2025 12:48 PM (/iMjX)
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Cadre-sized? The same sized Army that we had in 1939?
China, NK, and Russia would love that. No.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 12:44 PM (rj6Yv)
All the usual boogeymen, in other words.
You're not going to win any wars by sending troops into battle.
Sorry, you're just not. And you don't have to go to war with ANYONE in this world, if you just stop trying to control everybody in this world.
The U.S. of A. has to wean itself off this notion that it's got to be in everyone else's business.
China, NK, and Russia would love that. No.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 12:44 PM (rj6Yv)
All the usual boogeymen, in other words.
You're not going to win any wars by sending troops into battle.
Sorry, you're just not. And you don't have to go to war with ANYONE in this world, if you just stop trying to control everybody in this world.
The U.S. of A. has to wean itself off this notion that it's got to be in everyone else's business.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:48 PM (6tRK7)
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David Johansen, former frontman for the proto-punk/New Wave band the New York Dolls has passed away at 75.
"Funky Funky but chic!" RIP
David Johansen, former frontman for the proto-punk/New Wave band the New York Dolls has passed away at 75.
"Funky Funky but chic!" RIP
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 01, 2025 12:49 PM (x0n13)
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>>>Is NATO dead?
Yup.
>Is the UN dead? Yup. These communist, globalist fucks need to realize that the "economy" is unsustainable on any level but the nationalist level.
Tribes.
Your model is all fucked up.
Yup.
>Is the UN dead? Yup. These communist, globalist fucks need to realize that the "economy" is unsustainable on any level but the nationalist level.
Tribes.
Your model is all fucked up.
Posted by: Rev Wishbone at March 01, 2025 12:49 PM (fY84s)
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google translate choked
Posted by: runner at March 01, 2025 12:45 PM (g47mK)
The correct response to hearing things you disagree with is to supply your own facts and analysis, not make ad hominem attacks by implying that another poster is a foreign (thus ideologically wrong) bot (fake)
But, be a right-wing woke if you want. By all indications cancelling bad-thing is easier than actually making a point
Posted by: runner at March 01, 2025 12:45 PM (g47mK)
The correct response to hearing things you disagree with is to supply your own facts and analysis, not make ad hominem attacks by implying that another poster is a foreign (thus ideologically wrong) bot (fake)
But, be a right-wing woke if you want. By all indications cancelling bad-thing is easier than actually making a point
Posted by: Kindltot at March 01, 2025 12:49 PM (D7oie)
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Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 12:41 PM (ExV1e)
Well, that's the thing. There is no process here. We're told that lower level cops are refusing to show the files they used to convict someone of sex trafficking to the higher level cops or to the prosecutors.
If that's true, that's... what? Rebellion? Treason? Completely rogue and corrupt cops?
If this happened in Bumblefuck County, Wyoming, the state would shut down the police department and arrest everyone involved and it would be a huge embarrassment and there would be netflix documentaries about corruption in Wyoming and all kinds of criminal convictions would get tossed on appeals and it would upend everything.
And we're talking about the FBI in a high profile case with implications for national security, and all we're seeing is sternly written memos? How does that make any sense in the real world?
This will be used in every appeal of anyone convicted by SDNY or the NYC field office of the FBI. This should / will have huge ramifications.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 12:41 PM (ExV1e)
Well, that's the thing. There is no process here. We're told that lower level cops are refusing to show the files they used to convict someone of sex trafficking to the higher level cops or to the prosecutors.
If that's true, that's... what? Rebellion? Treason? Completely rogue and corrupt cops?
If this happened in Bumblefuck County, Wyoming, the state would shut down the police department and arrest everyone involved and it would be a huge embarrassment and there would be netflix documentaries about corruption in Wyoming and all kinds of criminal convictions would get tossed on appeals and it would upend everything.
And we're talking about the FBI in a high profile case with implications for national security, and all we're seeing is sternly written memos? How does that make any sense in the real world?
This will be used in every appeal of anyone convicted by SDNY or the NYC field office of the FBI. This should / will have huge ramifications.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 12:49 PM (uCjyK)
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Hooo boy. LTC Vindman did an interview with far-Left YouTube channel Meidas Touch to cry about mean 'Ole Trump and Vance.
He just called Lindsay Graham a far right MAGA Senator lol
He just called Lindsay Graham a far right MAGA Senator lol
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at March 01, 2025 12:49 PM (JCZqz)
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229 Today is March 1 and still no unredacted Epstein documents.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 01, 2025 12:06 PM (/U5Yz)
That's because your Democrat friends are withholding them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Au contraire my Canuckian friend, I have no democrat friends.
Going into this I thought Patel was a fire breathing building wrecker, as it's turning out, he seems like a paper pusher weakling.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 01, 2025 12:06 PM (/U5Yz)
That's because your Democrat friends are withholding them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Au contraire my Canuckian friend, I have no democrat friends.
Going into this I thought Patel was a fire breathing building wrecker, as it's turning out, he seems like a paper pusher weakling.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 01, 2025 12:49 PM (/U5Yz)
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The U.S. of A. has to wean itself off this notion that it's got to be in everyone else's business.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:48 PM (6tRK7)
Hush your dirty communist mouth!!!
- Defense Industry
The U.S. of A. has to wean itself off this notion that it's got to be in everyone else's business.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:48 PM (6tRK7)
Hush your dirty communist mouth!!!
- Defense Industry
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 01, 2025 12:50 PM (IZEnm)
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He said "Get your ass back in formation, and do your pushups like everybody else!"
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:37 PM (p2iSj)
My father was a WWII Marine, South Pacific for 30mo.
He said that in Pembleton the entire unit had a plan to kill the drill sgt when they were done. Every one, and my father was a Southern gentleman.
He somehow found out that every other year or group trained they'd ship the drll sgt from coast to coast to avoid this.
An idiot in his group had bad BO and they got in trouble over the nitwit a few times, had to march at 0300 in full packs on the beach due to him. They got this guy and "scrubbed him with a wire brush" in a shower (whatever that is) and no more problems. Of course my late father denied participation in this and the building of stills in the South Pacific islands with anything they could ferment. He was a chemistry major and I suspect he was involved somehow.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:37 PM (p2iSj)
My father was a WWII Marine, South Pacific for 30mo.
He said that in Pembleton the entire unit had a plan to kill the drill sgt when they were done. Every one, and my father was a Southern gentleman.
He somehow found out that every other year or group trained they'd ship the drll sgt from coast to coast to avoid this.
An idiot in his group had bad BO and they got in trouble over the nitwit a few times, had to march at 0300 in full packs on the beach due to him. They got this guy and "scrubbed him with a wire brush" in a shower (whatever that is) and no more problems. Of course my late father denied participation in this and the building of stills in the South Pacific islands with anything they could ferment. He was a chemistry major and I suspect he was involved somehow.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at March 01, 2025 12:50 PM (6PCLE)
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Diabetes as a term for abnormal glucose metabolism involves a complex series of interrelated factors and is not a simple linear equation.
Obesity is only one factor, and relates to the interactions between insulin vs. glucagon and the various cell surface receptors that those hormones interact with.
Posted by: muldoon at March 01, 2025 12:27 PM (/iMjX)
I looked at the curve you posted. My impression: there is a pronounced knee in the curve at about 8.5. I'd say that is where the curve for those people afflicted with diabetes intersects with that of of people not afflicted with diabetes.
Obesity is only one factor, and relates to the interactions between insulin vs. glucagon and the various cell surface receptors that those hormones interact with.
Posted by: muldoon at March 01, 2025 12:27 PM (/iMjX)
I looked at the curve you posted. My impression: there is a pronounced knee in the curve at about 8.5. I'd say that is where the curve for those people afflicted with diabetes intersects with that of of people not afflicted with diabetes.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 01, 2025 12:50 PM (8zz6B)
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The U.S. of A. has to wean itself off this notion that it's got to be in everyone else's business.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:48 PM (6tRK7)
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Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:48 PM (6tRK7)
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Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 12:51 PM (ExV1e)
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Bondi and Patel should have known better than to make promises they couldn't keep. At the same time, "conservative" "influencers" need to be ignored. They don't really care about anything other than causing drama and getting clicks/views.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton
Don't forget gold bullion, prepper food, and reverse mortgages.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton
Don't forget gold bullion, prepper food, and reverse mortgages.
Posted by: DC Draino at March 01, 2025 12:52 PM (/U5Yz)
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>>Hooo boy. LTC Vindman did an interview with far-Left YouTube channel Meidas Touch to cry about mean 'Ole Trump and Vance.
How is it that they always attack Trump via Ukraine?
Bearclaw needs to defect to Ukraine already - why does this guy always slither out to trash Trump or AMerica on behalf of Ukraine.
I hope someday someone will explain to us how/why Ukraine became the center of the universe to DC. . .
How is it that they always attack Trump via Ukraine?
Bearclaw needs to defect to Ukraine already - why does this guy always slither out to trash Trump or AMerica on behalf of Ukraine.
I hope someday someone will explain to us how/why Ukraine became the center of the universe to DC. . .
Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2025 12:52 PM (Cki93)
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Putin is a former KGB monster...
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"Putin and his colleagues were reduced mainly to collecting press clippings, thus contributing to the mountains of useless information produced by the KGB", Russian-American Masha Gessen wrote in their 2012 biography of Putin.
Scary.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 12:46 PM (ExV1e)
Unlike, for example, the 51 leading intelligence officers who lied about the sitting President being under control of a foreign government, and then tried to have him killed when he ran (and won) again.
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"Putin and his colleagues were reduced mainly to collecting press clippings, thus contributing to the mountains of useless information produced by the KGB", Russian-American Masha Gessen wrote in their 2012 biography of Putin.
Scary.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 12:46 PM (ExV1e)
Unlike, for example, the 51 leading intelligence officers who lied about the sitting President being under control of a foreign government, and then tried to have him killed when he ran (and won) again.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:52 PM (6tRK7)
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Nood gardening!
Posted by: fd at March 01, 2025 12:53 PM (vFG9F)
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This is why we should non-closed threads ALL DAY on the Weekends.
People are here and they want to comment on current events.
This is why we should non-closed threads ALL DAY on the Weekends.
People are here and they want to comment on current events.
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 01, 2025 12:53 PM (rpsnV)
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I keep going back to the assassinations. In '77, the Church Committee asked the FBI for the original ballistic tests, and fragments in their possession.
Oops! They couldn't find them!
Then when people started asking questions about the RFK murder, they asked for the door panels and ceiling tiles that had bullet holes in them... well shoot, they're gone. There wasn't enough room, so they tossed them in the trash. After all Sirhan Sirhan was already "tried" and convicted. Case closed, man.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:41 PM (6tRK7)
Oh, I know. I think they will run the same playbook here.
But if we were a serious country that was run as our civics classes say it is, that is not an acceptable answer.
Oops! They couldn't find them!
Then when people started asking questions about the RFK murder, they asked for the door panels and ceiling tiles that had bullet holes in them... well shoot, they're gone. There wasn't enough room, so they tossed them in the trash. After all Sirhan Sirhan was already "tried" and convicted. Case closed, man.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:41 PM (6tRK7)
Oh, I know. I think they will run the same playbook here.
But if we were a serious country that was run as our civics classes say it is, that is not an acceptable answer.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 12:54 PM (uCjyK)
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It occurs to me that during the editing/redactions to the Epstein files the other day nobody involved had a WTF moment with what they were looking at, and what was missing.
I mean... everyone knew as soon as they were released it was bullshit and stuff was missing.
Where's the responsibility for that?
I mean... everyone knew as soon as they were released it was bullshit and stuff was missing.
Where's the responsibility for that?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 01, 2025 12:54 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2025 12:55 PM (Cki93)
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I hope someday someone will explain to us how/why Ukraine became the center of the universe to DC. . .
Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2025 12:52 PM (Cki93)
I just think Ukraine was the flavor of the month for the military industrial complex, but it's not working out as planned and is being a sticky situation.
Prior flavors of the month include ISIS, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, etc. etc. etc.
They ran the same scams in all of those places that they are running in Ukraine right now.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2025 12:52 PM (Cki93)
I just think Ukraine was the flavor of the month for the military industrial complex, but it's not working out as planned and is being a sticky situation.
Prior flavors of the month include ISIS, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, etc. etc. etc.
They ran the same scams in all of those places that they are running in Ukraine right now.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 12:56 PM (uCjyK)
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Garden thread is nood.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 12:56 PM (ExV1e)
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>>I hope someday someone will explain to us how/why Ukraine became the center of the universe to DC. . .
Mike Benz has a pretty good explanation.
https://tinyurl.com/yc8njh6w
Mike Benz has a pretty good explanation.
https://tinyurl.com/yc8njh6w
Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2025 12:56 PM (LkLld)
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Where's the responsibility for that?
Posted by: Martini Farmer
Those guys over there and --> there and --> there.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
Those guys over there and --> there and --> there.
Posted by: Pam Bondi at March 01, 2025 12:56 PM (/U5Yz)
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This is why we should non-closed threads ALL DAY on the Weekends.
People are here and they want to comment on current events.
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 01, 2025 12:53 PM (rpsnV)
Errr, what's the current rule on that? I live in an apartment in NYC and it's also March, so I have nothing to add to the gardening thread. But we're not supposed to go OT in that thread, right? I remember ace getting mad about that at one point.
People are here and they want to comment on current events.
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 01, 2025 12:53 PM (rpsnV)
Errr, what's the current rule on that? I live in an apartment in NYC and it's also March, so I have nothing to add to the gardening thread. But we're not supposed to go OT in that thread, right? I remember ace getting mad about that at one point.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 12:57 PM (uCjyK)
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All the usual boogeymen, in other words.
You're not going to win any wars by sending troops into battle.
Sorry, you're just not. And you don't have to go to war with ANYONE in this world, if you just stop trying to control everybody in this world.
The U.S. of A. has to wean itself off this notion that it's got to be in everyone else's business.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:48 PM (6tRK7)
Somebody once said "You may not be interested in War, but War is interested in you."
I live in NC. In 2022, a person or persons still unknown, severely damaged an electrical power substation with gunfire. Nearly 40,000 people lost power, almost all of Moore County. Repairs weren't completed for nearly a week.
If the balloons goes up, the power, water, industrial infrastructure of this country will be under coordinated attack. I'm not sure that the local PD and the state police in our country can handle that, so there goes the National Guard.
You're not going to win any wars by sending troops into battle.
Sorry, you're just not. And you don't have to go to war with ANYONE in this world, if you just stop trying to control everybody in this world.
The U.S. of A. has to wean itself off this notion that it's got to be in everyone else's business.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2025 12:48 PM (6tRK7)
Somebody once said "You may not be interested in War, but War is interested in you."
I live in NC. In 2022, a person or persons still unknown, severely damaged an electrical power substation with gunfire. Nearly 40,000 people lost power, almost all of Moore County. Repairs weren't completed for nearly a week.
If the balloons goes up, the power, water, industrial infrastructure of this country will be under coordinated attack. I'm not sure that the local PD and the state police in our country can handle that, so there goes the National Guard.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 12:58 PM (rj6Yv)
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This is why we should non-closed threads ALL DAY on the Weekends.
People are here and they want to comment on current events.
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 01, 2025 12:53 PM (rpsnV)
Maybe at the ripe old age of 29 I’ve started to misremember, but wasn’t that the way it used to be? We’d get a hobby/pet thread and an open thread posted at the same time, with instructions to only use the open thread for politics?
People are here and they want to comment on current events.
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 01, 2025 12:53 PM (rpsnV)
Maybe at the ripe old age of 29 I’ve started to misremember, but wasn’t that the way it used to be? We’d get a hobby/pet thread and an open thread posted at the same time, with instructions to only use the open thread for politics?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 01, 2025 12:58 PM (l3YAf)
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hope someday someone will explain to us how/why Ukraine became the center of the universe to DC. . .
Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2025 12:52 PM (Cki93)
This was a long project. Started in the 90s as a geo-political project, then became a nice deep state enterprise. Nice cover. Unimpeachable cause.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2025 12:52 PM (Cki93)
This was a long project. Started in the 90s as a geo-political project, then became a nice deep state enterprise. Nice cover. Unimpeachable cause.
Posted by: runner at March 01, 2025 12:59 PM (g47mK)
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This is why we should non-closed threads ALL DAY on the Weekends.
People are here and they want to comment on current events.
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Meh... if the conversation here in this thread is active I don't even glance at the other threads except once in a while. I've got zero gardening motivation with this weather anyway.
People are here and they want to comment on current events.
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Meh... if the conversation here in this thread is active I don't even glance at the other threads except once in a while. I've got zero gardening motivation with this weather anyway.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 01, 2025 01:01 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2025 01:01 PM (Cki93)
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My impression: there is a pronounced knee in the curve at about 8.5. I'd say that is where the curve for those people afflicted with diabetes intersects with that of of people not afflicted with diabetes.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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I suspect you are right. In graphic depictions of patients with a discretely identifiable disease superimposed on a general population (non-disease) curve, the two individual curves each have basically a normal distribution (bell-shaped curve), but when you superimpose them into one curve it looks like a skewed curve, sometimes with a discernible "knee", as you call it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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I suspect you are right. In graphic depictions of patients with a discretely identifiable disease superimposed on a general population (non-disease) curve, the two individual curves each have basically a normal distribution (bell-shaped curve), but when you superimpose them into one curve it looks like a skewed curve, sometimes with a discernible "knee", as you call it.
Posted by: muldoon at March 01, 2025 01:02 PM (/iMjX)
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I have never planted a thing in my life. Gardening thread might as well be Polish 12th Century poetry thread for me. 🤣
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 01, 2025 01:02 PM (IZEnm)
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The correct response to hearing things you disagree with is to supply your own facts and analysis, not make ad hominem attacks by implying that another poster is a foreign (thus ideologically wrong) bot (fake)
But, be a right-wing woke if you want. By all indications cancelling bad-thing is easier than actually making a point
Posted by: Kindltot at March 01, 2025 12:49 PM (D7oie)
I don't care, Kidletot.
But, be a right-wing woke if you want. By all indications cancelling bad-thing is easier than actually making a point
Posted by: Kindltot at March 01, 2025 12:49 PM (D7oie)
I don't care, Kidletot.
Posted by: runner at March 01, 2025 01:03 PM (g47mK)
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You're not going to win any wars by sending troops into battle.
Sorry, you're just not. And you don't have to go to war with ANYONE in this world, if you just stop trying to control everybody in this world.
The U.S. of A. has to wean itself off this notion that it's got to be in everyone else's business.
Posted by: BurtTC
On the contrary, the Ukraine war is showing how important boots on the ground are, and how their tactics need to evolve with all the new threats. Putin wasn't going to conquer Ukraine with air strikes and drones.
As for US intervention...it sucks, but sitting idly by eventually caused problems for us, and then we have a much harder time dealing with it. If we sat out of the Korean war, and the whole peninsula was commie, and the precedent was set, would Taiwan still be free? How about other South East Asian countries?
The middle east would be an even greater goat rope. If we didn't support Israel, they'd have been wiped out by now...possibly nuking a few Arab nation Capitols on their way out. Most Arab nations would have nuclear arsenals, trade would be expensive due to piracy, etc.
Sorry, you're just not. And you don't have to go to war with ANYONE in this world, if you just stop trying to control everybody in this world.
The U.S. of A. has to wean itself off this notion that it's got to be in everyone else's business.
Posted by: BurtTC
On the contrary, the Ukraine war is showing how important boots on the ground are, and how their tactics need to evolve with all the new threats. Putin wasn't going to conquer Ukraine with air strikes and drones.
As for US intervention...it sucks, but sitting idly by eventually caused problems for us, and then we have a much harder time dealing with it. If we sat out of the Korean war, and the whole peninsula was commie, and the precedent was set, would Taiwan still be free? How about other South East Asian countries?
The middle east would be an even greater goat rope. If we didn't support Israel, they'd have been wiped out by now...possibly nuking a few Arab nation Capitols on their way out. Most Arab nations would have nuclear arsenals, trade would be expensive due to piracy, etc.
Posted by: Military Moron at March 01, 2025 01:04 PM (JCZqz)
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I guess, "I don't care , Kidletot about your opinion, as you seem to care about mine", is more correct.
Posted by: runner at March 01, 2025 01:05 PM (g47mK)
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>>This was a long project. Started in the 90s as a geo-political project, then became a nice deep state enterprise. Nice cover. Unimpeachable cause.
It's just so weird how they all seem to think the rest of should naturally care about Ukraine as much as them.Why should I want my president impeached over some phone call to the Ukraine leader? Why should I want out top federal spending priority to be Ukraine? Why should I put their dang flag on my social media avatar, etc...?
They never made the case to us -- apart from the weird "OUR democracy is dependent on their democracy" assertions. Like a cult.
It's just so weird how they all seem to think the rest of should naturally care about Ukraine as much as them.Why should I want my president impeached over some phone call to the Ukraine leader? Why should I want out top federal spending priority to be Ukraine? Why should I put their dang flag on my social media avatar, etc...?
They never made the case to us -- apart from the weird "OUR democracy is dependent on their democracy" assertions. Like a cult.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2025 01:06 PM (Cki93)
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The difficulty often lies in distinguishing those in the overlap region who have vs. do not have the condition in question.
If you want to maximize sensitivity (i.e. find all of the people with the disease) you will sacrifice specificity (find only those with the disease)
If you want to maximize sensitivity (i.e. find all of the people with the disease) you will sacrifice specificity (find only those with the disease)
Posted by: muldoon at March 01, 2025 01:07 PM (/iMjX)
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Posted by: Military Moron at March 01, 2025 01:04 PM (JCZqz)
I think it's important we stand back and say -- so what?
If the Arabs want to live like it's the 1300's, why is it the responsibility of the US Army to kill them over it?
Same with Korea or anywhere else. I think the US can survive a communist Korea or a Taiwan that is fully owned by the US.
There is no vital security interest in any of those places.
A smart foreign policy would be to have explicit red lines (for example, against the use of nuclear weapons) that are strictly enforced, but hopefully by being serious about it, they will never have to be enforced in practice.
And it would be one thing if I thought the military and CIA were actually advancing what is in the best interest of middle class US citizen Joe Sixpack. It's clearly not, look at Ukraine for a recent example. This power is being used to make people rich, and it is currently destabilizing Europe, just as it has destabilized every fucking where in the world, including at home in the US.
Posted by: Military Moron at March 01, 2025 01:04 PM (JCZqz)
I think it's important we stand back and say -- so what?
If the Arabs want to live like it's the 1300's, why is it the responsibility of the US Army to kill them over it?
Same with Korea or anywhere else. I think the US can survive a communist Korea or a Taiwan that is fully owned by the US.
There is no vital security interest in any of those places.
A smart foreign policy would be to have explicit red lines (for example, against the use of nuclear weapons) that are strictly enforced, but hopefully by being serious about it, they will never have to be enforced in practice.
And it would be one thing if I thought the military and CIA were actually advancing what is in the best interest of middle class US citizen Joe Sixpack. It's clearly not, look at Ukraine for a recent example. This power is being used to make people rich, and it is currently destabilizing Europe, just as it has destabilized every fucking where in the world, including at home in the US.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 01:09 PM (uCjyK)
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Putin has knocked off several people for political reasons. Google it. He learned this stuff while working for the KGB.
Posted by: Willie Stark at March 01, 2025 01:09 PM (P9+JS)
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They never made the case to us -- apart from the weird "OUR democracy is dependent on their democracy" assertions. Like a cult.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2025 01:06 PM (Cki93)
To be fair, Ukraine was very important to Biden Family, Inc.'s financial portfolio. The Spice must flow.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2025 01:06 PM (Cki93)
To be fair, Ukraine was very important to Biden Family, Inc.'s financial portfolio. The Spice must flow.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 01:10 PM (rj6Yv)
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"It's just so weird how they all seem to think the rest of should naturally care about Ukraine as much as them."
Nobody (apart from Ukraine) cares about Ukraine. We all cared about Russia. This was always and only about stopping Russia.
Nobody (apart from Ukraine) cares about Ukraine. We all cared about Russia. This was always and only about stopping Russia.
Posted by: Realpolitik at March 01, 2025 01:10 PM (99Qm2)
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I remember ace getting mad about that at one point.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Who cares what that homo thinks!?!? He's not here on the weekends! It's time to rise up and seize the means of production! Who's with me!??! Attica! Attica!
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Who cares what that homo thinks!?!? He's not here on the weekends! It's time to rise up and seize the means of production! Who's with me!??! Attica! Attica!
Posted by: Please COBs don't ban me it's just a joke a swear!!! at March 01, 2025 01:11 PM (JCZqz)
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330 Putin has knocked off several people for political reasons. Google it. He learned this stuff while working for the KGB.
Posted by: Willie Stark at March 01, 2025 01:09 PM (P9+JS)
So has Hillary Clinton.
In fact, Barack Obama ordered not one but two drone strikes on US citizens abroad, including a 16 year old kid.
If Putin's enemies keep falling out of windows, well... who cares?
Posted by: Willie Stark at March 01, 2025 01:09 PM (P9+JS)
So has Hillary Clinton.
In fact, Barack Obama ordered not one but two drone strikes on US citizens abroad, including a 16 year old kid.
If Putin's enemies keep falling out of windows, well... who cares?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 01:12 PM (uCjyK)
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I used to have a different nic. My response was to the post at 266. Those were not my words. US weapons are losing and the balance of that post makes zero sense.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at March 01, 2025 01:13 PM (2NHgQ)
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I hope someday someone will explain to us how/why Ukraine became the center of the universe to DC. . .
I think part of what happened with Z is seeing who screams the loudest and sending DOGE in that direction. USAID all over again.
I think part of what happened with Z is seeing who screams the loudest and sending DOGE in that direction. USAID all over again.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 01, 2025 01:13 PM (28pvP)
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>>To be fair, Ukraine was very important to Biden Family, Inc.'s financial portfolio. The Spice must flow.
Understood - a lot of shenanigans in Ukraine, money-making, bioweapons lab-ing, WEF policy incubating, and more.
I am dismayed by how all of DC, it seems, suddenly decided that the United States' top priority was Ukraine with really no warning. It was like an NPC upgrade, where suddenly it was the new normal, and we're the weird ones for questioning it.
Understood - a lot of shenanigans in Ukraine, money-making, bioweapons lab-ing, WEF policy incubating, and more.
I am dismayed by how all of DC, it seems, suddenly decided that the United States' top priority was Ukraine with really no warning. It was like an NPC upgrade, where suddenly it was the new normal, and we're the weird ones for questioning it.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2025 01:14 PM (Cki93)
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A smart foreign policy would be to have explicit red lines (for example, against the use of nuclear weapons) that are strictly enforced, but hopefully by being serious about it, they will never have to be enforced in practice.
And it would be one thing if I thought the military and CIA were actually advancing what is in the best interest of middle class US citizen Joe Sixpack. It's clearly not, look at Ukraine for a recent example. This power is being used to make people rich, and it is currently destabilizing Europe, just as it has destabilized every fucking where in the world, including at home in the US.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 01:09 PM (uCjyK)
A Communist Korean peninsula and a PRC-owned Taiwan means the destruction of Japan. If we didn't have overseas interests, there'd be no need for Guam and Diego Garcia, right?
And it would be one thing if I thought the military and CIA were actually advancing what is in the best interest of middle class US citizen Joe Sixpack. It's clearly not, look at Ukraine for a recent example. This power is being used to make people rich, and it is currently destabilizing Europe, just as it has destabilized every fucking where in the world, including at home in the US.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 01:09 PM (uCjyK)
A Communist Korean peninsula and a PRC-owned Taiwan means the destruction of Japan. If we didn't have overseas interests, there'd be no need for Guam and Diego Garcia, right?
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 01:15 PM (rj6Yv)
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>>I think part of what happened with Z is seeing who screams the loudest and sending DOGE in that direction. USAID all over again.
Please direct DOGe, and a FISA court-ordered surveillance team, at Susan Rice and her pals.
Please direct DOGe, and a FISA court-ordered surveillance team, at Susan Rice and her pals.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2025 01:16 PM (Cki93)
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> To be fair, Ukraine was very important to Biden Family, Inc.'s financial portfolio. The Spice must flow.
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Ukraine was/is a huge crossroads for all sorts of corruption. Must be cheap to run all sorts of ops there. Better return on your "investment." IYKWIM *winks*
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Ukraine was/is a huge crossroads for all sorts of corruption. Must be cheap to run all sorts of ops there. Better return on your "investment." IYKWIM *winks*
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 01, 2025 01:16 PM (Q4IgG)
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Nobody (apart from Ukraine) cares about Ukraine. We all cared about Russia. This was always and only about stopping Russia.
Posted by: Realpolitik at March 01, 2025 01:10 PM (99Qm2)
Stopping Russia from what? We boastfully overthrew the elected government in Ukraine because the president was "Putin's puppet."
We then put our own idiot in (I know there was another idiot in between, not important), a gentleman most famous for playing the Ukrainian president on a shitty TV show, who then proceeded to (with our and the EU's full backing and prodding) ethnically cleanse eastern Ukraine of ethnic Russians. Meanwhile, Z was loudly talking about joining the EU and NATO, which everyone on the planet knows is a serious Russian redline.
Then there was guerrilla fighting between Russians and Ukrainians, the Russians voted to join the Russian Federation, and then a war broke out.
This was all orchestrated by the US and EU.
No one at any time was scared of Russia, they provoked a war to make money for themselves and their retard kids like Hunter Biden.
Posted by: Realpolitik at March 01, 2025 01:10 PM (99Qm2)
Stopping Russia from what? We boastfully overthrew the elected government in Ukraine because the president was "Putin's puppet."
We then put our own idiot in (I know there was another idiot in between, not important), a gentleman most famous for playing the Ukrainian president on a shitty TV show, who then proceeded to (with our and the EU's full backing and prodding) ethnically cleanse eastern Ukraine of ethnic Russians. Meanwhile, Z was loudly talking about joining the EU and NATO, which everyone on the planet knows is a serious Russian redline.
Then there was guerrilla fighting between Russians and Ukrainians, the Russians voted to join the Russian Federation, and then a war broke out.
This was all orchestrated by the US and EU.
No one at any time was scared of Russia, they provoked a war to make money for themselves and their retard kids like Hunter Biden.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 01:18 PM (uCjyK)
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A Communist Korean peninsula and a PRC-owned Taiwan means the destruction of Japan. If we didn't have overseas interests, there'd be no need for Guam and Diego Garcia, right?
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 01:15 PM (rj6Yv)
Japan has proven itself to be a very resourceful country. But if they cannot defend themselves from Communists (which, again, China has been communist for many generations now), then so be it.
And agreed, I think we should give Diego Garcia back to the Brits, they can give it to Mauritania if they want. Who gives a shit?
Same with Guam. Give that island to Mauritania too if they want it.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 01:15 PM (rj6Yv)
Japan has proven itself to be a very resourceful country. But if they cannot defend themselves from Communists (which, again, China has been communist for many generations now), then so be it.
And agreed, I think we should give Diego Garcia back to the Brits, they can give it to Mauritania if they want. Who gives a shit?
Same with Guam. Give that island to Mauritania too if they want it.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 01:20 PM (uCjyK)
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Same with Guam. Give that island to Mauritania too if they want it.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
We can't handle Guam over to ANYBODY until we fix the risk of it capsizing. It just wouldn't be right to dump that on an unsuspecting buyer.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
We can't handle Guam over to ANYBODY until we fix the risk of it capsizing. It just wouldn't be right to dump that on an unsuspecting buyer.
Posted by: Rep. Hank Johnson at March 01, 2025 01:23 PM (JCZqz)
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We can't handle Guam over to ANYBODY until we fix the risk of it capsizing. It just wouldn't be right to dump that on an unsuspecting buyer.
Posted by: Rep. Hank Johnson at March 01, 2025 01:23 PM (JCZqz)
We'll sweeten the pot. Get one potentially cap sizing Guam, get a no-risk-of capsizing Puerto Rico for free.
Posted by: Rep. Hank Johnson at March 01, 2025 01:23 PM (JCZqz)
We'll sweeten the pot. Get one potentially cap sizing Guam, get a no-risk-of capsizing Puerto Rico for free.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 01:24 PM (uCjyK)
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Japan has proven itself to be a very resourceful country. But if they cannot defend themselves from Communists (which, again, China has been communist for many generations now), then so be it.
And agreed, I think we should give Diego Garcia back to the Brits, they can give it to Mauritania if they want. Who gives a shit?
Same with Guam. Give that island to Mauritania too if they want it.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 01:20 PM (uCjyK)
Japan has a long-standing defense infrastructure that relies on the US for strategic nuclear defense. The moment the US goes wobbly on that guarantee, Japan builds a nuclear arsenal and a missile delivery system. Big ones. Now, some people might make an argument that such a development would be a great thing. I don't.
And agreed, I think we should give Diego Garcia back to the Brits, they can give it to Mauritania if they want. Who gives a shit?
Same with Guam. Give that island to Mauritania too if they want it.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 01:20 PM (uCjyK)
Japan has a long-standing defense infrastructure that relies on the US for strategic nuclear defense. The moment the US goes wobbly on that guarantee, Japan builds a nuclear arsenal and a missile delivery system. Big ones. Now, some people might make an argument that such a development would be a great thing. I don't.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 01:26 PM (rj6Yv)
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That Oval Office video is like a litmus test. I thought Zelensky started acting up just a few minutes in and never righted his course.
Posted by: m at March 01, 2025 01:29 PM (v0TzN)
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I am dismayed by how all of DC, it seems, suddenly decided that the United States' top priority was Ukraine with really no warning. It was like an NPC upgrade, where suddenly it was the new normal, and we're the weird ones for questioning it.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2025 01:14 PM (Cki93)
Yeah. It was like one day nobody gave two fucks about Ukraine. And the next it was the most important place in the universe. Overnight. And 1/2 the country just nodded and went along with it, no questions asked.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 01, 2025 01:14 PM (Cki93)
Yeah. It was like one day nobody gave two fucks about Ukraine. And the next it was the most important place in the universe. Overnight. And 1/2 the country just nodded and went along with it, no questions asked.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 01, 2025 01:30 PM (IZEnm)
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The moment the US goes wobbly on that guarantee, Japan builds a nuclear arsenal and a missile delivery system. Big ones. Now, some people might make an argument that such a development would be a great thing. I don't.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 01:26 PM (rj6Yv)
I don’t think it’s a great thing, but I also don’t care. Let the Asians nuke each other.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 01:26 PM (rj6Yv)
I don’t think it’s a great thing, but I also don’t care. Let the Asians nuke each other.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 01, 2025 01:31 PM (l3YAf)
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That Oval Office video is like a litmus test Bambi Versus Godzilla.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at March 01, 2025 01:33 PM (L/fGl)
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I don’t think it’s a great thing, but I also don’t care. Let the Asians nuke each other.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 01, 2025 01:31 PM (l3YAf)
I'm sure the PRC feels the same way about the Western Powers.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 01, 2025 01:31 PM (l3YAf)
I'm sure the PRC feels the same way about the Western Powers.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 01:34 PM (rj6Yv)
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If you want to maximize sensitivity (i.e. find all of the people with the disease) you will sacrifice specificity (find only those with the disease)
Posted by: muldoon at March 01, 2025 01:07 PM (/iMjX)
This was a problem with the various covid tests. High sensitivity, low specificity, large numbers of false positives. Especially as people were getting tested over and over again until the got a positive.
Posted by: muldoon at March 01, 2025 01:07 PM (/iMjX)
This was a problem with the various covid tests. High sensitivity, low specificity, large numbers of false positives. Especially as people were getting tested over and over again until the got a positive.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 01, 2025 01:34 PM (l3YAf)
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28 An Italian living in England is a favorite blogger of mine.
He had this to say on the meeting. It cleared a few things up for me.
https://tinyurl.com/49vtymnm
The Ukrainian ambassador was actually crying.
Posted by: sal at March 01, 2025 11:09 AM (f+FmA)
This is really great. I hope ace sees it.
He had this to say on the meeting. It cleared a few things up for me.
https://tinyurl.com/49vtymnm
The Ukrainian ambassador was actually crying.
Posted by: sal at March 01, 2025 11:09 AM (f+FmA)
This is really great. I hope ace sees it.
Posted by: m at March 01, 2025 01:34 PM (v0TzN)
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Japan has a long-standing defense infrastructure that relies on the US for strategic nuclear defense. The moment the US goes wobbly on that guarantee, Japan builds a nuclear arsenal and a missile delivery system. Big ones. Now, some people might make an argument that such a development would be a great thing. I don't.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 01:26 PM (rj6Yv)
So your argument is that it's better that the two nuclear armed parties, North Korea and China, have to nuke American kids now and get us involved, and that is preferable to Japan having to do their own deterence?
How is that in the best interest of Joe Sixpack? Keeping in mind that it will be his kids dying to defend Japan from this hypothetical Korean / Chinese attack.
How does that make any sense for Joe Sixpack? And in what other country on this planet is that expected? I don't see Canada putting nukes and tens of thousands of armed Canadian kids on the Pakistan / India border, for example.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 01:26 PM (rj6Yv)
So your argument is that it's better that the two nuclear armed parties, North Korea and China, have to nuke American kids now and get us involved, and that is preferable to Japan having to do their own deterence?
How is that in the best interest of Joe Sixpack? Keeping in mind that it will be his kids dying to defend Japan from this hypothetical Korean / Chinese attack.
How does that make any sense for Joe Sixpack? And in what other country on this planet is that expected? I don't see Canada putting nukes and tens of thousands of armed Canadian kids on the Pakistan / India border, for example.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 01:35 PM (uCjyK)
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346 That Oval Office video is like a litmus test. I thought Zelensky started acting up just a few minutes in and never righted his course.
Posted by: m at March 01, 2025 01:29 PM (v0TzN)
He didn't like Trump's answer to a reporter about security guarantees. Then he jumped in and basically contradicted Trumps answer and tried to re-negotiate the deal in front of the media. Then when JD gently reprimanded him, he went off on JD and started attacking JD (who he had no reason to be addressing directly, this was supposed to be a press conference.)
It was only then that Trump got involved.
I think Trump handled it perfectly and Zelensky could not have fucked that up harder if he tried.
Posted by: m at March 01, 2025 01:29 PM (v0TzN)
He didn't like Trump's answer to a reporter about security guarantees. Then he jumped in and basically contradicted Trumps answer and tried to re-negotiate the deal in front of the media. Then when JD gently reprimanded him, he went off on JD and started attacking JD (who he had no reason to be addressing directly, this was supposed to be a press conference.)
It was only then that Trump got involved.
I think Trump handled it perfectly and Zelensky could not have fucked that up harder if he tried.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 01:37 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at March 01, 2025 01:38 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 01, 2025 01:40 PM (bss/y)
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I'm sure the PRC feels the same way about the Western Powers.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 01:34 PM (rj6Yv)
They don't care any more about you than you do about them.
Nor should they. Why would we expect some rice farmer in China to give a flying fuck about us? They have their own lives and problems, and while they may feel bad for you on a human level, that doesn't mean they're going to send their kids off to die for you.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 01:34 PM (rj6Yv)
They don't care any more about you than you do about them.
Nor should they. Why would we expect some rice farmer in China to give a flying fuck about us? They have their own lives and problems, and while they may feel bad for you on a human level, that doesn't mean they're going to send their kids off to die for you.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 01:40 PM (uCjyK)
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Mollie @MZHemingway
Yes, Trump won the popular vote against unbelievable odds, but if you think Team Obama is being any less involved in quiet insurrections than they were during the first Trump administration (Russia collusion, Ukraine impeachment, etc.), you're clueless. I'll remind you that Susan Rice was in the small Jan. 5, 2017 meeting in the WH with other key Russia collusion hoax perpetrators.
Zelensky repeatedly declined opportunities to sign the deal in Kyiv and Munich, and requested the meeting at the White House. It later came out that Rice and Tony Blinken, Victoria Nuland, and Alexander Vindman may have been personally advising Zelensky to do this meeting in the way he did -- that they recommended him to be hostile and to try to goad Trump into blowing up. Even though he didn't, and even though Zelensky's actions horrified many normal Americans, the Obama team went on the airwaves to falsely characterize what happened.
I think their goal was to have a wonderful performance by Zelensky, an angry Trump appearing to scuttle the deal, and the support of the neocon portion of the GOP to start applying pressure on Trump...
https://bit.ly/3DdQxSm
Yes, Trump won the popular vote against unbelievable odds, but if you think Team Obama is being any less involved in quiet insurrections than they were during the first Trump administration (Russia collusion, Ukraine impeachment, etc.), you're clueless. I'll remind you that Susan Rice was in the small Jan. 5, 2017 meeting in the WH with other key Russia collusion hoax perpetrators.
Zelensky repeatedly declined opportunities to sign the deal in Kyiv and Munich, and requested the meeting at the White House. It later came out that Rice and Tony Blinken, Victoria Nuland, and Alexander Vindman may have been personally advising Zelensky to do this meeting in the way he did -- that they recommended him to be hostile and to try to goad Trump into blowing up. Even though he didn't, and even though Zelensky's actions horrified many normal Americans, the Obama team went on the airwaves to falsely characterize what happened.
I think their goal was to have a wonderful performance by Zelensky, an angry Trump appearing to scuttle the deal, and the support of the neocon portion of the GOP to start applying pressure on Trump...
https://bit.ly/3DdQxSm
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 01, 2025 01:41 PM (P5BPp)
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"This was all orchestrated by the US and EU."
Yes. To stop Russia.
"No one at any time was scared of Russia, they provoked a war to make money for themselves and their retard kids like Hunter Biden."
The US and EU were not planning a war. They were expecting Russia to invade, and didn't intend to do anything about it. Hence Biden telling them he wouldn't do anything if it was a 'limited incursion' and them offering to evacuate Z. It was only after Z said no, they'd fight and provide the boots on the ground if we provided the weapons, that they switched to doing something about it. Classic cold war 'proxy war'. Cut Russia down to size. Try out the hi-tech weapons and see if they work.
They didn't. Russia are beating us, despite Ukraine having everything we've got short of nukes. It turned into a war of attrition where the one whose economy ran out of money first would lose. We lost. And now we want to take on China.
There are three threats left: China, Russia, and Iran. None of them respect 'deals'. We tried to do a deal with Iran, and got October 7th. We tried to fight Russia, and lost. Now it's China's turn. They'll take Taiwan within the next few years, and what will we do?
Yes. To stop Russia.
"No one at any time was scared of Russia, they provoked a war to make money for themselves and their retard kids like Hunter Biden."
The US and EU were not planning a war. They were expecting Russia to invade, and didn't intend to do anything about it. Hence Biden telling them he wouldn't do anything if it was a 'limited incursion' and them offering to evacuate Z. It was only after Z said no, they'd fight and provide the boots on the ground if we provided the weapons, that they switched to doing something about it. Classic cold war 'proxy war'. Cut Russia down to size. Try out the hi-tech weapons and see if they work.
They didn't. Russia are beating us, despite Ukraine having everything we've got short of nukes. It turned into a war of attrition where the one whose economy ran out of money first would lose. We lost. And now we want to take on China.
There are three threats left: China, Russia, and Iran. None of them respect 'deals'. We tried to do a deal with Iran, and got October 7th. We tried to fight Russia, and lost. Now it's China's turn. They'll take Taiwan within the next few years, and what will we do?
Posted by: Realpolitik at March 01, 2025 01:41 PM (99Qm2)
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I think their goal was to have a wonderful performance by Zelensky, an angry Trump appearing to scuttle the deal, and the support of the neocon portion of the GOP to start applying pressure on Trump to have US Troop commitments as part of the "security guarantee." It was a set-up, in Susan Rice's interesting choice of words.
Instead, Zelensky had one of the worst stage performances of his acting career, and Trump was statesmanlike (against all odds) throughout. Zelensky followed Team Obama's advice to be hostile to a tee, but it didn't land how they thought it would. Surprisingly, one of the most important aspects of it not working out might have been Lindsay Graham's reaction. Had he and other neocons thought Zelensky was being reasonable, Trump would be having to fight (even moreso) the neocon portion of the GOP in addition to Team Obama's dirty tricks. Even the "conservative" neocon pundits on TV last night were admitting Zelensky had royally messed up.
https://bit.ly/3DdQxSm
Instead, Zelensky had one of the worst stage performances of his acting career, and Trump was statesmanlike (against all odds) throughout. Zelensky followed Team Obama's advice to be hostile to a tee, but it didn't land how they thought it would. Surprisingly, one of the most important aspects of it not working out might have been Lindsay Graham's reaction. Had he and other neocons thought Zelensky was being reasonable, Trump would be having to fight (even moreso) the neocon portion of the GOP in addition to Team Obama's dirty tricks. Even the "conservative" neocon pundits on TV last night were admitting Zelensky had royally messed up.
https://bit.ly/3DdQxSm
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 01, 2025 01:42 PM (P5BPp)
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As you can see from the hostility of the bureaucracy to any Republican oversight, no matter how reasonable or minor it may be, the entrenched bureaucracy and permanent DC apparatus is quite active. That goes quadruple for the deep state in the Intelligence Community. I'd expect more and more shenanigans and to be prepared so that you don't fall for the next information operation. The post-WWII architecture in Europe and the US needs this war to continue or be settled on "US troops on the ground" type guarantees, even though that's not what Americans want.
Things will heat up here, and it's a very dangerous time.
https://bit.ly/3DdQxSm
Things will heat up here, and it's a very dangerous time.
https://bit.ly/3DdQxSm
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 01, 2025 01:43 PM (P5BPp)
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They'll sink only their end of the boat.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at March 01, 2025 01:38 PM (L/fGl)
The radiation’s not going to cause much of a problem here, because we have two big, beautiful oceans keeping us safe.
The only harm is economic, because we stupidly made our entire economy dependent on these far-off lands. Almost as if the goal was to create foreign entanglements while gutting the good industrial jobs flyover-Americans depended on..
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at March 01, 2025 01:38 PM (L/fGl)
The radiation’s not going to cause much of a problem here, because we have two big, beautiful oceans keeping us safe.
The only harm is economic, because we stupidly made our entire economy dependent on these far-off lands. Almost as if the goal was to create foreign entanglements while gutting the good industrial jobs flyover-Americans depended on..
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 01, 2025 01:43 PM (l3YAf)
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So your argument is that it's better that the two nuclear armed parties, North Korea and China, have to nuke American kids now and get us involved, and that is preferable to Japan having to do their own deterence?
How is that in the best interest of Joe Sixpack? Keeping in mind that it will be his kids dying to defend Japan from this hypothetical Korean / Chinese attack.
How does that make any sense for Joe Sixpack? And in what other country on this planet is that expected? I don't see Canada putting nukes and tens of thousands of armed Canadian kids on the Pakistan / India border, for example.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 01:35 PM (uCjyK)
My argument is that deterrence works, as evidenced by the lack of a global hot war since 1945. The greatest threat to peace is a perception by one side, either a single country or a coalition of countries, that another major power will not defend its interests abroad or that putative allies will ignore their defense treaty obligations during a conflict.
How is that in the best interest of Joe Sixpack? Keeping in mind that it will be his kids dying to defend Japan from this hypothetical Korean / Chinese attack.
How does that make any sense for Joe Sixpack? And in what other country on this planet is that expected? I don't see Canada putting nukes and tens of thousands of armed Canadian kids on the Pakistan / India border, for example.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 01:35 PM (uCjyK)
My argument is that deterrence works, as evidenced by the lack of a global hot war since 1945. The greatest threat to peace is a perception by one side, either a single country or a coalition of countries, that another major power will not defend its interests abroad or that putative allies will ignore their defense treaty obligations during a conflict.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 01:43 PM (rj6Yv)
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They'll take Taiwan within the next few years, and what will we do?
Posted by: Realpolitik at March 01, 2025 01:41 PM (99Qm2)
I think what we should do is continue to create wars so that we can send hundreds of billions of dollars all over the world so that our Deep State can get rich and spend their pocket change running psy ops against the US people.
And we should continue to take well meaning 18 year old kids and ship them overseas to die so that the Deep State can keep their military contracts rolling.
Fucking horrific.
How about this? Russia is not a threat to the US at this time. Neither is China. And neither is Iran.
And until or unless one or more of them attack us, we should enjoy the fact that we can finally get out of the endless wars for a while and spend some of that "peace dividend" back home in a way that doesn't enrich corrupt sociopaths in DC.
Let Taiwan worry about Taiwan. That's not our problem.
Posted by: Realpolitik at March 01, 2025 01:41 PM (99Qm2)
I think what we should do is continue to create wars so that we can send hundreds of billions of dollars all over the world so that our Deep State can get rich and spend their pocket change running psy ops against the US people.
And we should continue to take well meaning 18 year old kids and ship them overseas to die so that the Deep State can keep their military contracts rolling.
Fucking horrific.
How about this? Russia is not a threat to the US at this time. Neither is China. And neither is Iran.
And until or unless one or more of them attack us, we should enjoy the fact that we can finally get out of the endless wars for a while and spend some of that "peace dividend" back home in a way that doesn't enrich corrupt sociopaths in DC.
Let Taiwan worry about Taiwan. That's not our problem.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 01:46 PM (uCjyK)
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Mollie @MZHemingway
Also, the immediate and near-identical reaction of leaders of various European countries in support of Zelensky's temper tantrum yesterday also suggests a high-level of coordination and indicates a set-up. All very interesting.
X Video: https://bit.ly/3FbqwDH
Also, the immediate and near-identical reaction of leaders of various European countries in support of Zelensky's temper tantrum yesterday also suggests a high-level of coordination and indicates a set-up. All very interesting.
X Video: https://bit.ly/3FbqwDH
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 01, 2025 01:47 PM (P5BPp)
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>> They'll take Taiwan within the next few years, and what will we do?
Hopefully I’ll be reading about it on my Made in America iPhone.
Hopefully I’ll be reading about it on my Made in America iPhone.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 01, 2025 01:47 PM (l3YAf)
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How about this? Russia is not a threat to the US at this time. Neither is China. And neither is Iran.
And until or unless one or more of them attack us, we should enjoy the fact that we can finally get out of the endless wars for a while and spend some of that "peace dividend" back home in a way that doesn't enrich corrupt sociopaths in DC.
Let Taiwan worry about Taiwan. That's not our problem.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 01:46 PM (uCjyK)
Oh.
And until or unless one or more of them attack us, we should enjoy the fact that we can finally get out of the endless wars for a while and spend some of that "peace dividend" back home in a way that doesn't enrich corrupt sociopaths in DC.
Let Taiwan worry about Taiwan. That's not our problem.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 01:46 PM (uCjyK)
Oh.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 01:49 PM (rj6Yv)
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Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 01:43 PM (rj6Yv)
There have been two global hot wars in the history of the (modern) world. So we don't exactly have a lot of data points. And in neither of those wars was the US the aggressor.
And believe it or not, from 1789 - 1914, the US was not involved in any global hot wars, despite having a minimal military and no deterrence to speak of.
I think the mere existence of nuclear weapons may have a little bit to do with why there hasn't been a major hot war since 1945.
But unfortunately that means the military industrial complex does not get paid. So they need to spend their time creating smaller endless wars all around the globe to keep the money flowing. Which is what they've been doing since 1945. In fact, we have been in more wars since WWII then we were from the founding of the country until WWII.
So this deterrence thing doesn't seem to be doing a great job of keeping American kids out of harms way.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 01:43 PM (rj6Yv)
There have been two global hot wars in the history of the (modern) world. So we don't exactly have a lot of data points. And in neither of those wars was the US the aggressor.
And believe it or not, from 1789 - 1914, the US was not involved in any global hot wars, despite having a minimal military and no deterrence to speak of.
I think the mere existence of nuclear weapons may have a little bit to do with why there hasn't been a major hot war since 1945.
But unfortunately that means the military industrial complex does not get paid. So they need to spend their time creating smaller endless wars all around the globe to keep the money flowing. Which is what they've been doing since 1945. In fact, we have been in more wars since WWII then we were from the founding of the country until WWII.
So this deterrence thing doesn't seem to be doing a great job of keeping American kids out of harms way.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 01:50 PM (uCjyK)
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How about this? Russia is not a threat to the US at this time. Neither is China. And neither is Iran.
And until or unless one or more of them attack us, we should enjoy the fact that we can finally get out of the endless wars for a while and spend some of that "peace dividend" back home in a way that doesn't enrich corrupt sociopaths in DC.
Let Taiwan worry about Taiwan. That's not our problem.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 01:46 PM (uCjyK)
Agreed, except maybe on Iran. They can be a problem, and unlike China or Russia they love terrorist attacks on civilians.
They’re also a lot easier to flatten if they do attack us, so I’m not too worried.
And until or unless one or more of them attack us, we should enjoy the fact that we can finally get out of the endless wars for a while and spend some of that "peace dividend" back home in a way that doesn't enrich corrupt sociopaths in DC.
Let Taiwan worry about Taiwan. That's not our problem.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 01:46 PM (uCjyK)
Agreed, except maybe on Iran. They can be a problem, and unlike China or Russia they love terrorist attacks on civilians.
They’re also a lot easier to flatten if they do attack us, so I’m not too worried.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 01, 2025 01:52 PM (l3YAf)
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Oh.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 01:49 PM (rj6Yv)
Look, I'm a big believer in Big Tents and all of that, and you can certainly have your own views here, but after the last Trump term, COVID, and everything else that has happened -- is it not beginning to occur to you that this neocon "big chess board" view of the world is completely fabricated and something they just say to trick us?
That Iraq was not actually about freeing the people of Iraq from Saddam Hussein and finding his weapons of mass destruction in order to bring a stable western-style democracy to the middle east?
That Ukraine is not actually about our government feeling like we need to Do The Right Thing and spread democracy by fighting against the mean Russians?
etc. etc.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 01:49 PM (rj6Yv)
Look, I'm a big believer in Big Tents and all of that, and you can certainly have your own views here, but after the last Trump term, COVID, and everything else that has happened -- is it not beginning to occur to you that this neocon "big chess board" view of the world is completely fabricated and something they just say to trick us?
That Iraq was not actually about freeing the people of Iraq from Saddam Hussein and finding his weapons of mass destruction in order to bring a stable western-style democracy to the middle east?
That Ukraine is not actually about our government feeling like we need to Do The Right Thing and spread democracy by fighting against the mean Russians?
etc. etc.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 01:54 PM (uCjyK)
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Part of the problem: free navigation and trade. We depend and benefit from these things. They are a direct 'need' as opposed to optional adventurism.
Now one could argue that we 'need' to roll back some our reliance on these due to the export of industry and become more self sufficient, but it would still be a need.
Now one could argue that we 'need' to roll back some our reliance on these due to the export of industry and become more self sufficient, but it would still be a need.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 01, 2025 01:54 PM (bss/y)
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But unfortunately that means the military industrial complex does not get paid. So they need to spend their time creating smaller endless wars all around the globe to keep the money flowing. Which is what they've been doing since 1945. In fact, we have been in more wars since WWII then we were from the founding of the country until WWII.
So this deterrence thing doesn't seem to be doing a great job of keeping American kids out of harms way.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 01:50 PM (uCjyK)
9/11. Twin Towers. Ring a bell? How about the '62 Cuban Missile Crisis? Close call, there.
So this deterrence thing doesn't seem to be doing a great job of keeping American kids out of harms way.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 01:50 PM (uCjyK)
9/11. Twin Towers. Ring a bell? How about the '62 Cuban Missile Crisis? Close call, there.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 01:55 PM (rj6Yv)
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>> There have been two global hot wars in the history of the (modern) world. So we don't exactly have a lot of data points. And in neither of those wars was the US the aggressor.
There have been countless hot wars since 1945. The argument for deterrence was that we’d never had the US and Soviets/Russia directly fighting the other on their home turf.
Ukraine ended that. Ukraine showed that deterrence was always more self-delusion than anything. If one side thinks it can get away with a war, it will.
There have been countless hot wars since 1945. The argument for deterrence was that we’d never had the US and Soviets/Russia directly fighting the other on their home turf.
Ukraine ended that. Ukraine showed that deterrence was always more self-delusion than anything. If one side thinks it can get away with a war, it will.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 01, 2025 01:56 PM (l3YAf)
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Agreed, except maybe on Iran. They can be a problem, and unlike China or Russia they love terrorist attacks on civilians.
They’re also a lot easier to flatten if they do attack us, so I’m not too worried.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 01, 2025 01:52 PM (l3YAf)
We can stop poking Iran and they would probably leave us alone. And if not, then sure, we could respond if we need to.
BUt for the most part, they do leave us alone. They want to be the regional power in the middle east, as they have been on and off since the days of antiquity.
The US doesn't want them to be, largely due to oil politics.
Saudi Arabia is certainly just as guilty as the kind of shit Iran pulls, and yet they're one of our closest allies.
It's not about ideology here. It's about what Shell, BP and Exxon Mobil want.
And not for nothing -- 2/3 of those companies aren't even American.
They’re also a lot easier to flatten if they do attack us, so I’m not too worried.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 01, 2025 01:52 PM (l3YAf)
We can stop poking Iran and they would probably leave us alone. And if not, then sure, we could respond if we need to.
BUt for the most part, they do leave us alone. They want to be the regional power in the middle east, as they have been on and off since the days of antiquity.
The US doesn't want them to be, largely due to oil politics.
Saudi Arabia is certainly just as guilty as the kind of shit Iran pulls, and yet they're one of our closest allies.
It's not about ideology here. It's about what Shell, BP and Exxon Mobil want.
And not for nothing -- 2/3 of those companies aren't even American.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 01:57 PM (uCjyK)
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Part of the problem: free navigation and trade. We depend and benefit from these things. They are a direct 'need' as opposed to optional adventurism.
Now one could argue that we 'need' to roll back some our reliance on these due to the export of industry and become more self sufficient, but it would still be a need.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 01, 2025 01:54 PM (bss/y)
Dear American worker,
You should pay more taxes so we can make it safe to import cheap stuff from China. The MIC gets rich, the Chinese get rich, the executives who offshore get rich. It’s win-win-win. (You will lose your job.)
Love,
MIC
Now one could argue that we 'need' to roll back some our reliance on these due to the export of industry and become more self sufficient, but it would still be a need.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 01, 2025 01:54 PM (bss/y)
Dear American worker,
You should pay more taxes so we can make it safe to import cheap stuff from China. The MIC gets rich, the Chinese get rich, the executives who offshore get rich. It’s win-win-win. (You will lose your job.)
Love,
MIC
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 01, 2025 01:59 PM (l3YAf)
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9/11. Twin Towers. Ring a bell? How about the '62 Cuban Missile Crisis? Close call, there.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 01:55 PM (rj6Yv)
Well, we didn't do a great job of deterrence leading up to 9/11.
As far as the Cuban Missile Crisis -- uh, that played out exactly how we'd want it to, no? Just basic horse trading diplomacy. US said "no missiles in Cuba" Soviets said "okay, but none of yours in Turkey" and we shook hands and all moved on with our lives.
Except the Cubans. They got screwed.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 01:55 PM (rj6Yv)
Well, we didn't do a great job of deterrence leading up to 9/11.
As far as the Cuban Missile Crisis -- uh, that played out exactly how we'd want it to, no? Just basic horse trading diplomacy. US said "no missiles in Cuba" Soviets said "okay, but none of yours in Turkey" and we shook hands and all moved on with our lives.
Except the Cubans. They got screwed.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 02:00 PM (uCjyK)
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> Yes, Trump won the popular vote against unbelievable odds, but if you think Team Obama is being any less involved in quiet insurrections than they were during the first Trump administration (Russia collusion, Ukraine impeachment, etc.), you're clueless.
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Anyone on "Team Obama" get a pardon from *biden? If I were Trump, or his surrogates, I'd be working day and night to lay a trap for those fuckers they'd never be able to extricate themselves from.
And put the proverbial screws to 'em. Then hang them
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Anyone on "Team Obama" get a pardon from *biden? If I were Trump, or his surrogates, I'd be working day and night to lay a trap for those fuckers they'd never be able to extricate themselves from.
And put the proverbial screws to 'em. Then hang them
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 01, 2025 02:01 PM (Q4IgG)
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The Korean War is great example of what happens when a Superpower embraces the myth of the "peace dividend". The US Marine Corps was cut to 1/2 strength, the US Navy's budget was cut, the US Army had one division in Japan, without heavy armor, poorly undertrained and underequipped. A lot of brave men were suddenly thrown into combat and lost their lives because their military and civilian leadership forgot that to keep the peace, prepare for war.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 02:02 PM (rj6Yv)
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Part of the problem: free navigation and trade. We depend and benefit from these things. They are a direct 'need' as opposed to optional adventurism.
Now one could argue that we 'need' to roll back some our reliance on these due to the export of industry and become more self sufficient, but it would still be a need.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 01, 2025 01:54 PM (bss/y)
Free navigation and trade has historically worked pretty well, even before the US Navy took a leading role.
And what is the US navy doing now to ensure free trade? Shooting at Chinese Coast Guard ships to try to board Libyan-flagged tankers to do a safety inspection? Of course not.
What threat is there to global navigation and trade right now? Somali pirates in 1997 Boston Whalers with 3 AK-47's? That's been mostly solved by the shipping companies hiring private security at their own expense?
Now one could argue that we 'need' to roll back some our reliance on these due to the export of industry and become more self sufficient, but it would still be a need.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 01, 2025 01:54 PM (bss/y)
Free navigation and trade has historically worked pretty well, even before the US Navy took a leading role.
And what is the US navy doing now to ensure free trade? Shooting at Chinese Coast Guard ships to try to board Libyan-flagged tankers to do a safety inspection? Of course not.
What threat is there to global navigation and trade right now? Somali pirates in 1997 Boston Whalers with 3 AK-47's? That's been mostly solved by the shipping companies hiring private security at their own expense?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 02:03 PM (uCjyK)
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Ummm ... even tho' I seriously HATE popup ads etc, the ads on this site have babes with terrific hooters - but how come they're all mostly pictured with kids? All that means is 'unavailable', yes? Still, nice to lust after on a quiet day - and since they're just in the ads, that means we don't need to worry about the cost of 'upkeep', 'cos they're all in the 'Buy me a Porsche, Daddy!' category ...
Posted by: Dr_No at March 01, 2025 02:05 PM (ayRl+)
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As far as the Cuban Missile Crisis -- uh, that played out exactly how we'd want it to, no? Just basic horse trading diplomacy. US said "no missiles in Cuba" Soviets said "okay, but none of yours in Turkey" and we shook hands and all moved on with our lives.
Except the Cubans. They got screwed.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 02:00 PM (uCjyK)
Fidel Castro was on the phone to Nikita Khruschev, screaming, begging the Soviets to launch a nuke strike on the US. So, FUCK the Cubans.
Except the Cubans. They got screwed.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 02:00 PM (uCjyK)
Fidel Castro was on the phone to Nikita Khruschev, screaming, begging the Soviets to launch a nuke strike on the US. So, FUCK the Cubans.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 02:05 PM (rj6Yv)
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Dear American worker,
You should pay more taxes so we can make it safe to import cheap stuff from China. The MIC gets rich, the Chinese get rich, the executives who offshore get rich. It’s win-win-win. (You will lose your job.)
Love,
MIC
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 01, 2025 01:59 PM (l3YAf)
Right, exactly. I try to see the other side of arguments, but I do have a hard time with this one.
My neighbors kids life is not worth a slight decrease in the shipping cost of a shitty plastic hangar that will break as soon as I put a coat on it.
And in fact, all of us would be better off if that shitty plastic hangar was made in the US.
You should pay more taxes so we can make it safe to import cheap stuff from China. The MIC gets rich, the Chinese get rich, the executives who offshore get rich. It’s win-win-win. (You will lose your job.)
Love,
MIC
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 01, 2025 01:59 PM (l3YAf)
Right, exactly. I try to see the other side of arguments, but I do have a hard time with this one.
My neighbors kids life is not worth a slight decrease in the shipping cost of a shitty plastic hangar that will break as soon as I put a coat on it.
And in fact, all of us would be better off if that shitty plastic hangar was made in the US.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 02:05 PM (uCjyK)
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380 Ummm ... even tho' I seriously HATE popup ads etc, the ads on this site have babes with terrific hooters - but how come they're all mostly pictured with kids? All that means is 'unavailable', yes? Still, nice to lust after on a quiet day - and since they're just in the ads, that means we don't need to worry about the cost of 'upkeep', 'cos they're all in the 'Buy me a Porsche, Daddy!' category ...
Posted by: Dr_No at March 01, 2025 02:05 PM (ayRl+)
Critique of clickbait. We are living in a golden age.
Posted by: Dr_No at March 01, 2025 02:05 PM (ayRl+)
Critique of clickbait. We are living in a golden age.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 01, 2025 02:07 PM (bss/y)
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Fidel Castro was on the phone to Nikita Khruschev, screaming, begging the Soviets to launch a nuke strike on the US. So, FUCK the Cubans.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 02:05 PM (rj6Yv)
Not that I really care either way, but I have read a lot about the cuban missile crisis (granted it was a while ago), but I do not remember anything of the sort happening and I can't even imagine where we'd get a trustworthy source for the contents of a call between Castro and Khrushchev.
In fact, from what I've read, Castro felt betrayed by the soviets because they essentially used Cuba as a pawn to get the US to pull missiles out of Turkey. Cuba thought the USSR was actually going to protect Castro from the invasion he feared was coming. Which he had every reason to fear, since this was not long after the Bay of Pigs fiasco.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 02:05 PM (rj6Yv)
Not that I really care either way, but I have read a lot about the cuban missile crisis (granted it was a while ago), but I do not remember anything of the sort happening and I can't even imagine where we'd get a trustworthy source for the contents of a call between Castro and Khrushchev.
In fact, from what I've read, Castro felt betrayed by the soviets because they essentially used Cuba as a pawn to get the US to pull missiles out of Turkey. Cuba thought the USSR was actually going to protect Castro from the invasion he feared was coming. Which he had every reason to fear, since this was not long after the Bay of Pigs fiasco.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 01, 2025 02:10 PM (uCjyK)
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Dear American worker,
You should pay more taxes so we can make it safe to import cheap stuff from China. The MIC gets rich, the Chinese get rich, the executives who offshore get rich. It’s win-win-win. (You will lose your job.)
Love,
MIC
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 01, 2025 01:59 PM (l3YAf)
That is precisely my point. Self sufficiency is a many sided thing. It is not just being able to ignore shipping or supply problems because the items are made at home, there are also more underlying things that come from having industry at home. In person, practical manufacturing and engineering expertise for one.
Another is agility: you can turn one industry to making other things if the need arises.
You should pay more taxes so we can make it safe to import cheap stuff from China. The MIC gets rich, the Chinese get rich, the executives who offshore get rich. It’s win-win-win. (You will lose your job.)
Love,
MIC
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 01, 2025 01:59 PM (l3YAf)
That is precisely my point. Self sufficiency is a many sided thing. It is not just being able to ignore shipping or supply problems because the items are made at home, there are also more underlying things that come from having industry at home. In person, practical manufacturing and engineering expertise for one.
Another is agility: you can turn one industry to making other things if the need arises.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 01, 2025 02:10 PM (bss/y)
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Speaking of China...
The PLAN (Chinese Navy) has been active down in Aussie land. A couple warships doing "live fire" exercises between their east coast and New Zealand.
There are a number of island nations in the South Pacific that are not really aligned with anyone that China would dearly love to have under their umbrella.
Plus, there are islands currently held by Japan that the ChiComs would like to take back as well.
I'm more concerned with what Xi will do than the dumbfuckery Putin engages in with Europe.
The PLAN (Chinese Navy) has been active down in Aussie land. A couple warships doing "live fire" exercises between their east coast and New Zealand.
There are a number of island nations in the South Pacific that are not really aligned with anyone that China would dearly love to have under their umbrella.
Plus, there are islands currently held by Japan that the ChiComs would like to take back as well.
I'm more concerned with what Xi will do than the dumbfuckery Putin engages in with Europe.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 01, 2025 02:12 PM (Q4IgG)
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The Korean War is great example of what happens when a Superpower embraces the myth of the "peace dividend". The US Marine Corps was cut to 1/2 strength, the US Navy's budget was cut, the US Army had one division in Japan, without heavy armor, poorly undertrained and underequipped. A lot of brave men were suddenly thrown into combat and lost their lives because their military and civilian leadership forgot that to keep the peace, prepare for war.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 02:02 PM (rj6Yv)
Korea is what happens when the people demand a peace dividend, but the leadership doesn’t want to lose billions in grift. Suddenly it’s like “Look, one group of dog-eaters is attacking another!” And the President unilaterally intervenes without a declaration of war from Congress.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 02:02 PM (rj6Yv)
Korea is what happens when the people demand a peace dividend, but the leadership doesn’t want to lose billions in grift. Suddenly it’s like “Look, one group of dog-eaters is attacking another!” And the President unilaterally intervenes without a declaration of war from Congress.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 01, 2025 02:17 PM (l3YAf)
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313 Garden thread is nood.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 12:56 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 12:56 PM (ExV1e)
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Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 01, 2025 02:24 PM (l3YAf)
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Has anyone put the Ukraine's ambassador to the US on a suicide watch?
Her reactions to Baby Z yesterday seems to indicate that it's a possibility. Not because she did anything wrong, but in shame.
Her reactions to Baby Z yesterday seems to indicate that it's a possibility. Not because she did anything wrong, but in shame.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 01, 2025 02:32 PM (VNX3d)
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at March 01, 2025 02:32 PM (8HFiB)
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In person, practical manufacturing and engineering expertise for one.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 01, 2025 02:10 PM
In person manufacturing won't help much if companies outsource the design and engineering. Which is what has been happening in the auto industry for at least the past 5 years.
At Stellantis specifically. When FCA merged with PSA to form Stellantis, Stellantis immediately began outsourcing engineering jobs. And it was aided in doing so by the ongoing remote working mandate post-COVID.
FCA started the purge when they immediately laid off all contract engineers when Michigan forced all companies to work from home starting March 2020. Then after the January 2021 merger, Stellantis started pushing out every engineer and engineering management person they could through "voluntary separations" and retirement packages.
After all was said and done, we went from 95% of engineering work in office at CTC to 5 years later 80% of our engineering department is remote "Best Cost Country" contract workers in India and Indians living in Canada. India, where the average IQ is 76 (borderline impaired).
Who knows how many other industries have also done this.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 01, 2025 02:10 PM
In person manufacturing won't help much if companies outsource the design and engineering. Which is what has been happening in the auto industry for at least the past 5 years.
At Stellantis specifically. When FCA merged with PSA to form Stellantis, Stellantis immediately began outsourcing engineering jobs. And it was aided in doing so by the ongoing remote working mandate post-COVID.
FCA started the purge when they immediately laid off all contract engineers when Michigan forced all companies to work from home starting March 2020. Then after the January 2021 merger, Stellantis started pushing out every engineer and engineering management person they could through "voluntary separations" and retirement packages.
After all was said and done, we went from 95% of engineering work in office at CTC to 5 years later 80% of our engineering department is remote "Best Cost Country" contract workers in India and Indians living in Canada. India, where the average IQ is 76 (borderline impaired).
Who knows how many other industries have also done this.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 01, 2025 03:02 PM (P5BPp)
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US weapons are losing and the balance of that post makes zero sense.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at March 01, 2025 01:13 PM (2NHgQ)
Gotcha. Probably losing. Our weapons mix would play better in a fast campaign, no long-term static lines. The trouble is, can we achieve that against a near-peer? If we get stuck in location than the weapons mix is changing.
We'd be wise to observe what's happening in Ukraine and devise means to counter it but, since it'll likely be the case that you need swarms of cheaper stuff, I doubt we'll learn that lesson until a few tens of thousands of GIs not related to the politicians or generals die.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at March 01, 2025 01:13 PM (2NHgQ)
Gotcha. Probably losing. Our weapons mix would play better in a fast campaign, no long-term static lines. The trouble is, can we achieve that against a near-peer? If we get stuck in location than the weapons mix is changing.
We'd be wise to observe what's happening in Ukraine and devise means to counter it but, since it'll likely be the case that you need swarms of cheaper stuff, I doubt we'll learn that lesson until a few tens of thousands of GIs not related to the politicians or generals die.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 03:02 PM (ExV1e)
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Pet thread is over nood.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 01, 2025 03:06 PM (bss/y)
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Yeah. It was like one day nobody gave two fucks about Ukraine. And the next it was the most important place in the universe. Overnight. And 1/2 the country just nodded and went along with it, no questions asked.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 01, 2025 01:30 PM (IZEnm)
Updating an NPC takes no time at all. They read their talking points and - boom - instant zealousness. George Orwell called it pretty well. I wonder if he'd had a vision.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 01, 2025 01:30 PM (IZEnm)
Updating an NPC takes no time at all. They read their talking points and - boom - instant zealousness. George Orwell called it pretty well. I wonder if he'd had a vision.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 03:07 PM (ExV1e)
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396
Posted by: m at March 01, 2025 03:18 PM (v0TzN)
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There are three threats left: China, Russia, and Iran. None of them respect 'deals'. We tried to do a deal with Iran, and got October 7th. We tried to fight Russia, and lost. Now it's China's turn.
Posted by: Realpolitik at March 01, 2025 01:41 PM (99Qm2)
To the best of my knowledge, Russia hasn't been the ones breaking deals. Iran has been making secret deals with the US party recently in power so they see no reason to abide by older deals made by the former leaders of that same country. China too.
Posted by: Realpolitik at March 01, 2025 01:41 PM (99Qm2)
To the best of my knowledge, Russia hasn't been the ones breaking deals. Iran has been making secret deals with the US party recently in power so they see no reason to abide by older deals made by the former leaders of that same country. China too.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 03:20 PM (ExV1e)
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I am not posting this in the Pet Thread, to keep it free of politics.
We got to see a Peacock lose its tail in the White House this week.
We got to see a Peacock lose its tail in the White House this week.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 01, 2025 03:21 PM (VNX3d)
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The Korean War is great example of what happens when a Superpower embraces the myth of the "peace dividend". The US Marine Corps was cut to 1/2 strength, the US Navy's budget was cut, the US Army had one division in Japan, without heavy armor, poorly undertrained and underequipped. A lot of brave men were suddenly thrown into combat and lost their lives because their military and civilian leadership forgot that to keep the peace, prepare for war.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 02:02 PM (rj6Yv)
How many have died thanks to the "GWOT"? What was achieved? And, as for preparing for war... the politicians like to use a sword if they have it. They like to spend mightily on unproven and, as shown in Ukraine, questionable weapons systems.
The fact of the matter is that where the world is now isn't WW2, and it isn't Korea, and it isn't Vietnam. History shows that the US will as unprepared for what comes next as it has always been - because the generals think it still is those old conflicts.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 02:02 PM (rj6Yv)
How many have died thanks to the "GWOT"? What was achieved? And, as for preparing for war... the politicians like to use a sword if they have it. They like to spend mightily on unproven and, as shown in Ukraine, questionable weapons systems.
The fact of the matter is that where the world is now isn't WW2, and it isn't Korea, and it isn't Vietnam. History shows that the US will as unprepared for what comes next as it has always been - because the generals think it still is those old conflicts.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 03:30 PM (ExV1e)
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Ummm ... even tho' I seriously HATE popup ads etc, the ads on this site have babes with terrific hooters - but how come they're all mostly pictured with kids?
Consider using the Brave browser and slipping a fiver to Ace once and a while.
Consider using the Brave browser and slipping a fiver to Ace once and a while.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 03:32 PM (ExV1e)
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Mario Nawfal @MarioNawfal
BREAKING: USAID FUNDED NGO ACCUSED OF MEDDLING IN ROMANIA’S ELECTIONS
A Ukrainian state-funded group called TEXTY, which also gets money from USAID, allegedly published multiple articles pushing to cancel Romania’s elections.
The NGO has also labeled Trump’s administration as “Russian propagandists” and created a list of U.S. conservative politicians and journalists, calling them “Kremlin agents."
With foreign-funded groups influencing elections and politics, many are asking:
Will May's elections in Romania even be fair?
https://bit.ly/41pzLYq
BREAKING: USAID FUNDED NGO ACCUSED OF MEDDLING IN ROMANIA’S ELECTIONS
A Ukrainian state-funded group called TEXTY, which also gets money from USAID, allegedly published multiple articles pushing to cancel Romania’s elections.
The NGO has also labeled Trump’s administration as “Russian propagandists” and created a list of U.S. conservative politicians and journalists, calling them “Kremlin agents."
With foreign-funded groups influencing elections and politics, many are asking:
Will May's elections in Romania even be fair?
https://bit.ly/41pzLYq
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 01, 2025 04:35 PM (P5BPp)
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Oli London @OliLondonTV
Zelensky can wear a suit to meet Klaus Schwab but not the President of the United States.
X images: https://bit.ly/3EUB1v5
Zelensky can wear a suit to meet Klaus Schwab but not the President of the United States.
X images: https://bit.ly/3EUB1v5
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 01, 2025 04:36 PM (P5BPp)
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The destruction of USAID sure brings out the worst in some people. Zelinsky, for instance, and his masters.
Posted by: mrp at March 01, 2025 04:45 PM (rj6Yv)
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Ummm ... even tho' I seriously HATE popup ads etc, the ads on this site have babes with terrific hooters - but how come they're all mostly pictured with kids?
Consider using the Brave browser and slipping a fiver to Ace once and a while.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 03:32 PM (ExV1e)
I'm still scratching my head about the tiny man wearing a tux in the shower.
Consider using the Brave browser and slipping a fiver to Ace once and a while.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 01, 2025 03:32 PM (ExV1e)
I'm still scratching my head about the tiny man wearing a tux in the shower.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 01, 2025 04:51 PM (W/lyH)
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OK, pets and gardening may be palette cleansers, but I would think the attack of the deep state today would be worth a little attention here.
Susan Rice should be in jail.
OK, pets and gardening may be palette cleansers, but I would think the attack of the deep state today would be worth a little attention here.
Susan Rice should be in jail.
Posted by: Auspex at March 01, 2025 05:18 PM (j4U/Z)
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DataRepublican (small r) @DataRepublican
Does anyone else find it deeply unsettling that the primary argument for prolonging the war in Ukraine is purely emotional?
The loudest voices advocating for continued conflict are the same hawkish figures who pushed for interventions in Iraq and Syria — people hailed as foreign policy experts and respected leaders. Yet, their entire position boils down to outrage at Putin. They offer no strategy for ending a war with a nuclear power, no clear endgame — just rhetoric and name-calling. If you question the war’s continuation, you’re accused of supporting Putin.
These are the people shaping our foreign policy, embedded in influential think tanks and NGOs, yet they seem to have no intellectual substance behind their stance.
The emperor has no clothes.
X: https://bit.ly/43iHMkr
Does anyone else find it deeply unsettling that the primary argument for prolonging the war in Ukraine is purely emotional?
The loudest voices advocating for continued conflict are the same hawkish figures who pushed for interventions in Iraq and Syria — people hailed as foreign policy experts and respected leaders. Yet, their entire position boils down to outrage at Putin. They offer no strategy for ending a war with a nuclear power, no clear endgame — just rhetoric and name-calling. If you question the war’s continuation, you’re accused of supporting Putin.
These are the people shaping our foreign policy, embedded in influential think tanks and NGOs, yet they seem to have no intellectual substance behind their stance.
The emperor has no clothes.
X: https://bit.ly/43iHMkr
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 01, 2025 06:28 PM (P5BPp)
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Elon Musk @elonmusk
True
DataRepublican (small r) @DataRepublican
My main takeaway from the past two days is that eliminating NGOs isn’t just about tackling corruption - it’s a matter of survival. The current trajectory carries a real risk of leading us toward nuclear catastrophe.
The so-called foreign policy “experts” are nothing more than mediocre thinkers with no real capacity for logic. These are the people steering global decisions, yet they lack the competence to handle serious geopolitical threats. If we want to avoid disaster, we need to destroy their mystique and dissolve their money.
True
DataRepublican (small r) @DataRepublican
My main takeaway from the past two days is that eliminating NGOs isn’t just about tackling corruption - it’s a matter of survival. The current trajectory carries a real risk of leading us toward nuclear catastrophe.
The so-called foreign policy “experts” are nothing more than mediocre thinkers with no real capacity for logic. These are the people steering global decisions, yet they lack the competence to handle serious geopolitical threats. If we want to avoid disaster, we need to destroy their mystique and dissolve their money.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 01, 2025 06:30 PM (P5BPp)
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Mike Benz @MikeBenzCyber
Following this lead from @nataliegwinters, if the USAToday hit piece author Cate Klepacki attacking Trump and Musk on USAID today is the same Cate Klepacki in the USASpending database, she got $169K from USAID for a business in DC and $34K from State for a Swiss luxury apartment
X: https://bit.ly/3Xpp86T
Following this lead from @nataliegwinters, if the USAToday hit piece author Cate Klepacki attacking Trump and Musk on USAID today is the same Cate Klepacki in the USASpending database, she got $169K from USAID for a business in DC and $34K from State for a Swiss luxury apartment
X: https://bit.ly/3Xpp86T
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 01, 2025 06:32 PM (P5BPp)
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Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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