Media Whines: The Billionaires We Counted On to Keep Paying Us No Matter How Much Money We Lost are Rebelling!

A cri du coeur from perpetual cri babies.

During a bleak period for the Los Angeles Times in 2006 under Tribune Co., editors quietly courted billionaire media mogul David Geffen to buy the newspaper, hoping that, in the spirit of civic-minded duty, he would run the Times as a public trust and protect its editorial integrity.

They mean "protect it from the pressure of having to actually appeal to an audience large enough to sustain it," of course.

Almost 20 years later, the longstanding dream of billionaire White Knights swooping in to rescue journalism appears to gradually be turning into a nightmare, with some of those moguls revealing themselves, as fantasy characters go, to be something closer to Lex Luthor than the saviors that were envisioned.
Instead of the enlightened ownership for which journalists had hoped, the fear now is these corporate titans view newspapers as just another asset to help fuel their larger business objectives. For some, that has meant currying favor with the new Trump administration.

The latest rude awakening comes at The Washington Post, where owner and Amazon.com Inc. chairman Jeff Bezos on Wednesday mandated that the newspaper's opinion pages only publish work that is supportive of "personal liberties and free markets."
"Viewpoints opposing those pillars will be left to be published by others," Bezos wrote in a note to staff.

Let me correct my prior misreading: I thought he ordered the paper to start running op-eds supportive of free markets and free speech. No, he went a lot further than that -- he says all op-eds must be consistent with those imperatives. He says that other venues, like I guess the garbage-tier New Republic and Salon, can publish the anti-free-speech, pro-censorship op-eds.

It's the "Free Speech" part that really bothers the left, which stands for almost nothing now except censorship to protect them in their ill-gotten positions of power. They're fine with free markets. The Democrats used to be protectionist, but now that Trump is talking about tariffs, they have of course reflexively, retardedly chosen to support whatever the position opposite of Trump's is.

Bezos says that the Post can no longer crusade for censorship and deplatforming of voices the left considers threatening to their sinecures, and that is the hill they will die on.

The newspaper's top opinion editor, David Shipley, quit in protest, and journalists in the newsroom -- already in the midst of an exodus to other outlets -- threatened they would do the same if Bezos' meddling found its way to the news side of the operation.

Halperin mentioned that one of their economics "reporters," who isn't even affected by the op-ed policy as "reporters" are supposedly separated by a "firewall" from the opinion pages (yeah, sure, pull the other one), declared on twitter, pre-emptively, that he would quit if his boss ever attempted to give him direction.

If Bezos weren't such a softdick, that guy would already be fired.

As concerns about billionaire newspaper owners go, Bezos has received fairly stiff competition from Patrick Soon-Shiong, the proprietor of the Los Angeles Times, whose pivot to embrace the Trump administration has similarly alarmed staff, prompted resignations and thrown the future of an already-struggling enterprise beset by rounds of layoffs into further chaos.

The for-profit model of journalism, with its naive faith in supposedly public-spirited plutocrats as owners, is utterly failing in this time of existential threat to democracy."
-- Samuel Freedman
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Other warning signs of billionaire media ownership flared during the run-up to last year's presidential election, when both Bezos and Soon-Shiong spiked editorial endorsements of Kamala Harris, in what many saw as a hedge-betting maneuver to avoid angering the notoriously vindictive Trump should he win.
Those actions prompted waves of canceled subscriptions that, in the current climate, such publications can ill afford.
Since then, Soon-Shiong has provided a steady drip of fodder to irritate and embarrass his newsroom, including interviews with conservative outlets, talking about affixing a "bias meter" to stories, or the Times' editing of an op-ed piece about health secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. that appeared to mislead readers and outraged its author.
Bezos' decree on his paper's opinion section triggered immediate condemnation and derision. Former Post media columnist Margaret Sullivan, writing in The Guardian, called it "a death knell" for a "once-great news organization." Marty Baron, the Washington Post's former executive editor, said he "couldn't be more sad and disgusted" by Bezos' decision.
George Conway, a high-profile attorney and fixture on MSNBC, posted on X: "Please do yourself, your journalists, and your country a favor by selling the formerly venerated journalistic institution you seem intent on destroying." He described himself as "a former contributor and subscriber to the Washington Post."

When a billionaire is spending $100 million of his own money year after year to subsidize a failing enterprise, he would like one of three things in return for his investment:

1. The possibility of one day making money, or at least no longer losing it. But the Washington Post is clearly a failing paper and would go bankrupt without Bezos shoveling a hundred million dollars into every year. The media is collapsing, and nothing will stop that.

2. Prestige. But the Washington Post is a joke and basically a party-school gay sorority for retards. It is an anti-prestige organization. It brings shame upon itself and its owner.

3. Influence. This is why Bezos probably bought the Post in the first place, to have a voice in Washington DC as they eyed up anti-trust actions against Amazon.

But the paper has alienated most of the country and, most critically, the political party currently in power and maybe, possibly in power for the next 8-12 years (God willing).

Again, the Post is an anti-influence organization.

Instead of delivering any of those things, these "journalists" have decided to die on the hill that WE get to decide what this paper's political/editorial slant is, not some mere owner/employers.

WHY should they have that power?

Oh right-- because all "journalists" are "experts" in whatever they're arguing about this second. They're all so much smarter than billionaires and tech moguls, don't you know.

What we hear time and time again, from fired bureaucrats and from "journalists" who produce nothing except puff pieces for the left and hit pieces against the right -- We don't think it's faaaaiir that you Big Meanies expect work and results from us. We want to be paid like those 20-year-old tech girls are paid, and paid to just sit around and do yoga and drink lattes all day.

Below, retired Post editor Marty Baron is Big Mad at Bezos. It's the end of democracy that the owner of a newspaper should believe he should have some say in the newspaper's direction.

How dare he usurp the authority of the bureaucrats, I mean "journalists," that are his employees!

Posted by: Ace at 05:30 PM

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1 First.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2025 05:31 PM (U0o6X)

2 ?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2025 05:33 PM (U0o6X)

3
New Rule, you guys:

The first courteous moron to "nood" in prior post is the official "first" of the nood, no mater what.

Posted by: Bill Maher's whiny pussy mouth at February 28, 2025 05:33 PM (5NS4y)

4 The assumption that other people should continue to prop up their dying industry forever OR ARE SUPERVILLAINS is a bit difficult to take seriously.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 05:33 PM (2VST1)

5 Nobodys home.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2025 05:34 PM (U0o6X)

6 When a billionaire is spending $100 million of his own money year after year to subsidize a failing enterprise, he would like one of three things in return for his investment:

"investment? That's capitalist evil! You must subsidize us forever and let me keep my cushy no-work 6 figure job until I die!"
--Reporters everywhere

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 05:35 PM (2VST1)

7 For the media, it's like an EMP event, except with money.

Posted by: Paco at February 28, 2025 05:35 PM (mADJX)

8 During a bleak period for the Los Angeles Times in 2006 under Tribune Co., editors quietly courted billionaire media mogul David Geffen to buy the newspaper, hoping that, in the spirit of civic-minded duty, he would run the Times as a public trust and protect its editorial integrity.

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I was expecting that sentence to end with "into the ground and eventual bankruptcy."

Like Newsweek, I wouldn't buy that for $1 ...

Posted by: ShainS -- We Pay Dead People at February 28, 2025 05:35 PM (wOBbw)

9 One key thing in all this is Luigi the Killer and how the FNM reacted to him.

The CEO of that Healthcare company was just another left leaning corporate cog and with the FNM cheering his murder the leftwing oligarchs could clearly see they are on the same list so...why pay people that want to murder you?

Posted by: 18-1 at February 28, 2025 05:35 PM (t0Rmr)

10 Didn’t William Randolph Hearst just wanna sell newspapers? Worked out pretty good for him… when I visited Hearst Castle years ago I was stunned at its opulence. The level of wealth was amazing….. media outlets aren’t failing because of uber rich owners; they’re failing because they’ve totally betrayed and lost the trust of the public…. Can’t put that toothpaste back in the tube

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 28, 2025 05:36 PM (6RwsA)

11 Liberal media revolts ? I'm certainly revolted by them

Posted by: It's me donna at February 28, 2025 05:36 PM (VE6XX)

12 Without USAID?! Go find yourselves another sucker!

Posted by: Billionaires at February 28, 2025 05:36 PM (KtPtl)

13 >>>the fear now is these corporate titans view newspapers as just another asset to help fuel their larger business objectives

Absolute crazy talk. Next you're going to say that government is only secretly putting money in to media organizations so that they can use the media as a propaganda tool!

Crazy conspiracy theorists.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 28, 2025 05:36 PM (uCjyK)

14 What kind of an idiot still reads newspapers?

Posted by: Weirdo Shut Ins With Lots Of Cats at February 28, 2025 05:37 PM (R/m4+)

15 lol at Castreau

Justin Trudeau
@JustinTrudeau
Russia illegally and unjustifiably invaded Ukraine.

For three years now, Ukrainians have fought with courage and resilience. Their fight for democracy, freedom, and sovereignty is a fight that matters to us all.

Canada will continue to stand with Ukraine and Ukrainians in achieving a just and lasting peace.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at February 28, 2025 05:36 PM (TGPs7)

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 28, 2025 05:37 PM (i24o9)

16 Paco World News Daily (PWND) bids one dollar for the Washington Post.

Posted by: Paco at February 28, 2025 05:38 PM (mADJX)

17 14 What kind of an idiot still reads newspapers?

Posted by: Weirdo Shut Ins With Lots Of Cats at February 28, 2025 05:37 PM

Ahem.

Posted by: George Will at February 28, 2025 05:38 PM (+oR7L)

18 We are doing something much harder and more important than winning an election, we are winning the culture. You can see it everywhere.

And this is how you change the direction of a country and in this country's case the world.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 28, 2025 05:38 PM (LkLld)

19 Sometime in the 60's to the 70's, the media morphed from Reporters to Journalists. This mind shift is actually pretty major, because a Report is about Facts, while a Journal is a personal document detailing how you FEEL about something.

I think America is done with Journalists lecturing us about subjects they don't know anything about in the first place...

Journalism is soon going to be dear.... hopefully Reporting comes back.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2025 05:38 PM (QAkQ3)

20 In the interest of truth, I propose that all schools and degrees of Journalism be renamed to schools and degrees of Propaganda.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at February 28, 2025 05:38 PM (VNX3d)

21 David Geffen runs the gay pedo ring in Hollowood.

Quincy Jones ran the black gay pedo ring, but he's dead, so I don't know who runs it now. Alls I knows is, whoever it is don't like Diddy.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2025 05:38 PM (lH8E4)

22
Canada will continue to stand with Ukraine and Ukrainians in achieving a just and lasting peace.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at February 28, 2025 05:36 PM (TGPs7)
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 28, 2025 05:37 PM (i24o9)

Son.. You're on your own

Posted by: Pastor Johnson at February 28, 2025 05:39 PM (VE6XX)

23 This whole idea that the employees are the decision makers is the inmates running the asylum.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 28, 2025 05:39 PM (mB6WH)

24 How the f*ck do these retards argue against the overall tone of the opinion page being pro-free-markets and pro-personal-liberty?

Their lack of perspective is terrifying.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 28, 2025 05:39 PM (mWSu4)

25 The liberal media is revolting?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2025 05:40 PM (U0o6X)

26 He's the PM of The Netherlands...

Dick Schoof
@MinPres

The Netherlands supports Ukraine as firmly as ever. Now more than ever. We want a lasting peace and an end to the war of aggression started by Russia. For Ukraine and its people, and for Europe.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at February 28, 2025 05:40 PM (TGPs7)

27 Canada will continue to stand with Ukraine and Ukrainians in achieving a just and lasting peace.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at February 28, 2025 05:36 PM (TGPs7)
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 28, 2025 05:37 PM (i24o9)

Yes, they will stand behind Ukraine... so far behind they are on the other side of the world, well out of danger.... as they continue to hide behind American defenses.

/spit

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2025 05:40 PM (QAkQ3)

28 We are doing something much harder and more important than winning an election, we are winning the culture. You can see it everywhere.

And this is how you change the direction of a country and in this country's case the world.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 28, 2025 05:38 PM (LkLld)

I mentioned in the MR this morning: We’re seeing the opposite of Brietbart’s maxim: A politician (Trump) is driving the culture which is remarkable

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 28, 2025 05:40 PM (6RwsA)

29 23 This whole idea that the employees are the decision makers is the inmates running the asylum.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 28, 2025 05:39 PM (mB6WH)

It's just so foreign to the 90% of people who work in the real world.

Yeah, my boss tells me to do shit all of the time. No, I don't always like doing what he tells me to.

But I figure I have two choices: smile and do it, or find a new job.

Same should be true for everyone in media and especially everyone working for the fucking government.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 28, 2025 05:40 PM (uCjyK)

30 The latest rude awakening comes at The Washington Post, where owner and Amazon.com Inc. chairman Jeff Bezos on Wednesday mandated that the newspaper's opinion pages only publish work that is supportive of "personal liberties and free markets."

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[In best Col. Kurtz voice:] "The Horror ... The Horror ..."

Posted by: ShainS -- We Pay Dead People at February 28, 2025 05:40 PM (X8zAb)

31 "investment? That's capitalist evil! You must subsidize us forever and let me keep my cushy no-work 6 figure job until I die!"
--Reporters everywhere

****

“Money is evil! Pay me!” —Commies everywhere

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 28, 2025 05:40 PM (kaEOr)

32 Has it been settled yet whether King Harv is riding that shark, or wrestling it?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 28, 2025 05:41 PM (Dm8we)

33
Delivering newspapers and collecting 60 years ago was the meanest, most crooked racket ever conceived to oppress young boys.

Looking back, it helped me come to terms with what assholes the left are.

Posted by: Auspex at February 28, 2025 05:41 PM (j4U/Z)

34 Dick Schoof
@MinPres

The Netherlands supports Ukraine as firmly as ever. Now more than ever. We want a lasting peace and an end to the war of aggression started by Russia. For Ukraine and its people, and for Europe.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at February 28, 2025 05:40 PM (TGPs7)

This very well could finally drive a stake through NATO.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2025 05:41 PM (QAkQ3)

35 New Rule, you guys:

The first courteous moron to "nood" in prior post is the official "first" of the nood, no mater what.
Posted by: Bill Maher's whiny pussy mouth at February 28, 2025 05:33 PM

New here?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 28, 2025 05:41 PM (a3Q+t)

36 15 "Canada will continue to stand with Ukraine and Ukrainians in achieving a just and lasting peace." - Mister Ghost

P.G. Wodehouse: "Good luck, and we shall follow your future career with considerable interest".

Posted by: Paco at February 28, 2025 05:41 PM (mADJX)

37 I pledge Canadias tank to the war effort,eh hosehead.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2025 05:42 PM (U0o6X)

38 This very well could finally drive a stake through NATO.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2025 05:41 PM (QAkQ3)

We can just put Norway and Canada in charge and give them the keys on our way out the door.

Seems like they're ready to send their money and young men to die for Ukraine, so -- have at it.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 28, 2025 05:42 PM (uCjyK)

39 >> But I figure I have two choices: smile and do it, or find a new job.

You can also go to work for yourself. Odd that these “journalists” never take their talent and start a really killer news outlet of their own, eh?

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 28, 2025 05:42 PM (kaEOr)

40 What kind of an idiot still reads newspapers?
Posted by: Weirdo Shut Ins With Lots Of Cats at February 28, 2025 05:37 PM

I'm right here, you know.

Posted by: The Canary in the cage at February 28, 2025 05:42 PM (a3Q+t)

41 A cri du coeur from perpetual cri babies.

I saw the Cri Babies open for French TV at the Exhibition Hall at French Lick Resort in '23.

https://youtu.be/uTYWatDZQKk

Posted by: mikeski at February 28, 2025 05:43 PM (DgGvY)

42 Leftists are revolting!
They stink on ice!

Posted by: vmom deport deport deporte at February 28, 2025 05:43 PM (WL2lA)

43 Since others have broken the 100 comment rule, looks like Z man did the Bret Baer interview.. And the Euroweenie Countries are all taking his side as we knew they would.

Posted by: It's me donna at February 28, 2025 05:43 PM (VE6XX)

44 Do they still make newspapers?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2025 05:43 PM (U0o6X)

45 >> The Netherlands supports Ukraine as firmly as ever. Now more than ever. We want a lasting peace and an end to the war of aggression started by Russia. For Ukraine and its people, and for Europe.

Windmill Mexico gettin’ pretty mouthy.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 28, 2025 05:44 PM (kaEOr)

46 Leftists are revolting!
They stink on ice!
Posted by: vmom deport deport deporte at February 28, 2025 05:43 PM (WL2lA)

They look like the Piss Boy!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at February 28, 2025 05:44 PM (VNX3d)

47 And does anyone really believe that memo Bezos gave his Wapo editors?

Really?

Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2025 05:44 PM (lH8E4)

48 But I figure I have two choices: smile and do it, or find a new job.

Same should be true for everyone in media and especially everyone working for the fucking government.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 28, 2025 05:40 PM (uCjyK)

I spent my formative young adult years in the Military...

It was do the job, and not show emotion at all... or go to Jail.

When I got into the civilian world, it was a serious wake up call about how many Employees would whine about pretty minor stuff.

It was WAYYYYYY worse right before I retired though.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2025 05:44 PM (QAkQ3)

49 Deploy the strategic Maple syrup reserve, eh!

Posted by: Hosers at February 28, 2025 05:44 PM (i24o9)

50 Sometime in the 60's to the 70's, the media morphed

Yeah, thereabouts.

Posted by: Operation Mockingbird at February 28, 2025 05:45 PM (uAczH)

51 Remember our "allies" in NATO believe that the US must spend lives and treasury defending Ukraine...with minimal if any help from them, but when Americans soldiers were fighting and dying in the WoT they wanted to arrest them and put them on trial.

F*ck these hypocrites who are enemies not in anyway allies.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 28, 2025 05:45 PM (t0Rmr)

52 This very well could finally drive a stake through NATO.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2025 05:41 PM (QAkQ3)

I sure hope so.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2025 05:45 PM (lH8E4)

53 What kind of an idiot still reads newspapers?

Posted by: Weirdo Shut Ins With Lots Of Cats at February 28, 2025 05:37 PM

Raising hand. Don't like to read news stories on the internet all the time. I think all the computer light is bad for my eyes and reading news on a tiny phone computer screen is a PITBackside. Also I like doing word searches from a paper.

I'm not shut in and I only have one cat. although I suppose if reading the paper means I'm weird, oh well...

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 28, 2025 05:46 PM (42Vb+)

54 Canada "We back Ukraine ! " "Hey America can we have some money and military equipment ? "

Posted by: It's me donna at February 28, 2025 05:46 PM (VE6XX)

55 He's the Federal Chancellor of Germany and promises to send busloads of Afghani Refugees to The Ukraine...

Bundeskanzler Olaf Scholz
@Bundeskanzler

Nobody wants peace more than the Ukrainians do. Therefore we are working on a common path to a lasting and just peace. Ukraine can rely on Germany – and on Europe.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at February 28, 2025 05:46 PM (TGPs7)

56 >> Has it been settled yet whether King Harv is riding that shark, or wrestling it?

Or Option C.

Like when a little kid visits a farm. “Daddy, that big cow is trying to jump up on the little cow..”

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 28, 2025 05:46 PM (kaEOr)

57 Has it been settled yet whether King Harv is riding that shark, or wrestling it?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 28, 2025 05:41 PM (Dm8we)

I think it's from one of Jonny Quest's adventures and it's Race wrasslin with a shark. He's such a drama queen!

Posted by: Dr. Quest, Closeted Homosexual at February 28, 2025 05:46 PM (R/m4+)

58 You don't hate the media enough

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at February 28, 2025 05:46 PM (B9Prs)

59 This very well could finally drive a stake through NATO.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2025 05:41 PM (QAkQ3)

An allegiance so forged of honor and duty that the request to pay their fair share nearly kilt it.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 28, 2025 05:47 PM (i24o9)

60 Seriously Ace? There is much bigger news.

It was Zelensky's cocaine in the White House.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at February 28, 2025 05:47 PM (ZmEVT)

61 Nobody wants peace more than the Ukrainians do. Therefore we are working on a common path to a lasting and just peace. Ukraine can rely on Germany – and on Europe.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at February 28, 2025 05:46 PM (TGPs7)

Guess they didn't listen to their hero in the Oval Office today

Posted by: It's me donna at February 28, 2025 05:47 PM (VE6XX)

62 “ We want to be paid like those 20-year-old tech girls are paid, and paid to just sit around and do yoga and drink lattes all day.”

Well, that and servicing the executives. There’s no doubt in my mind the real job of those twitty bimbettes was comfort women.

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 28, 2025 05:47 PM (sPmfM)

63 Canada will continue to stand with Ukraine and Ukrainians in achieving a just and lasting peace.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at February 28, 2025 05:36 PM (TGPs7)
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 28, 2025 05:37 PM (i24o9)

The nice thing is, with everyone, but Hungary, standing with Ukraine, we can have them fund and fight the war and say "peace out"...and go back to normal relations with Russia (just like China's done, staying in relations with both us and Russia)...

Posted by: Nova Local at February 28, 2025 05:47 PM (exHjb)

64 So, how many FBI agents in NYC resigned today? Fired and thrown out?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at February 28, 2025 05:47 PM (VNX3d)

65 Any country taking Ukraine's side can fund Ukraine's side.

Posted by: NCKate at February 28, 2025 05:48 PM (4bYb7)

66 I'm not shut in and I only have one cat. although I suppose if reading the paper means I'm weird, oh well...
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 28, 2025 05:46 PM (42Vb+)

It's really not about the physical attributes of paper vs. computer screens.

It's the fact that idiots and people who hate you decide what goes in the paper.

But people still ride horses, because they like riding horses. Not because horses are better than cars at getting you from point A to point B.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2025 05:48 PM (lH8E4)

67 >>I mentioned in the MR this morning: We’re seeing the opposite of Brietbart’s maxim: A politician (Trump) is driving the culture which is remarkable

We've always been here. Just normal everyday Americans who want a normal American life and don't want to be controlled, censored, ripped off and lied to by our government. Doesn't seem like a big lift.

Trump is obviously a uniquely gifted person to pull this off for many reasons but it's striking that the largest voting bloc of Americans has been ignored for so long by politicians.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 28, 2025 05:49 PM (LkLld)

68 Canada will continue to stand with Ukraine and Ukrainians in achieving a just and lasting peace.

That should mean they are on the side of Trump, because that's all he wants and is trying to achieve.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 05:49 PM (2VST1)

69 65 Any country taking Ukraine's side can fund Ukraine's side.
Posted by: NCKate at February 28, 2025 05:48 PM (4bYb7)

After today I may start rooting for Russia.. Hate to say it

Posted by: It's me donna at February 28, 2025 05:49 PM (VE6XX)

70 But people still ride horses, because they like riding horses. Not because horses are better than cars at getting you from point A to point B.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2025 05:48 PM (lH8E4)

Unless we are talking EVs.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 28, 2025 05:49 PM (i24o9)

71 Lot of people are standing with Ukraine I see.

That and 10 bucks will get Z a cup of coffee for the flight home.

Posted by: Just Lily at February 28, 2025 05:50 PM (RLLZj)

72 Go Team Europe!. Support Ukraine with your resources.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 28, 2025 05:50 PM (mB6WH)

73 72 Go Team Europe!. Support Ukraine with your resources.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 28, 2025 05:50 PM (mB6WH)

Rah rah, rah !

Posted by: It's me donna at February 28, 2025 05:50 PM (VE6XX)

74 Almost enough for me to go back to the K.K. thread.

Posted by: From about That Time at February 28, 2025 05:50 PM (n4GiU)

75 Dick Schoof
@MinPres

The Netherlands supports Ukraine as firmly as ever. Now more than ever. We want a lasting peace and an end to the war of aggression started by Russia. For Ukraine and its people, and for Europe.

You can pay for it yerself, motherfucker.

Posted by: BifBewalski at February 28, 2025 05:50 PM (MsrgL)

76 Canada will continue to stand with Ukraine and Ukrainians in achieving a just and lasting peace.

And we will continue standing here, 5000 miles away, until it's safe to go over there!

Posted by: Canada at February 28, 2025 05:51 PM (eST6G)

77 I don't understand what the fuck Zelensky was thinking, at all. I'd spend that whole meeting nodding my head and kissing the fucking ring.

Posted by: El Mariachi at February 28, 2025 05:51 PM (nLFEI)

78 Any country taking Ukraine's side can fund Ukraine's side.
Posted by: NCKate at February 28, 2025 05:48 PM (4bYb7)

None of them are taking Ukraine's side. Anyone taking Ukraine's side would have backed a peace deal more than 3 years ago.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2025 05:51 PM (lH8E4)

79 All these countries with their solidarity towards Ukraine...obviously in reaction to the dressing down of Zelenskyy...have one thing in common. They ain't ponying up with the wallet. They'll use that "look I'm wearing the proper ribbon" language of "we stand with you." But, the basis of Zelenskyy tanking the meeting today (and he did...the damn thing went nearly 30 minutes without any bravado before the fireworks started) was to get the US directly involved in the peace keeping force. IOW...we pay for everything.

Posted by: Orson at February 28, 2025 05:52 PM (dIske)

80 It is frustrating for me seeing how polarized people are on Ukraine. I think we can hold two positions simultaneously, and be honest:

1) Russia is run by a thug tyrant and invaded Ukraine without just cause
2) Ukraine is a corrupt dump being used by the left for cash flow and the military-industrial complex for business and graft.

I don't like either side, and there's only going to be peace when both sides want it more than they want to kill their people.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 05:52 PM (2VST1)

81 Speaking of Newspaper Magnates, Disney is remaking Citizen Kane but in this iteration, Rosebud is a gigantic purple dildo.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 28, 2025 05:52 PM (XV/Pl)

82 >>Has it been settled yet whether King Harv is riding that shark, or wrestling it?

I am not King Harv.

Also, don't Google image search 'Jim McElwain riding a sharK'

Posted by: Jim McElwain at February 28, 2025 05:52 PM (Y1sOo)

83 77 I don't understand what the fuck Zelensky was thinking, at all. I'd spend that whole meeting nodding my head and kissing the fucking ring.
Posted by: El Mariachi at February 28, 2025 05:51 PM (nLFEI)

Well Europe loves him !Oh.. and the Dems

Posted by: It's me donna at February 28, 2025 05:52 PM (VE6XX)

84 Canada “standing” with Ukraine is about as potent as Michelle “Swining Dick” Obama hashtagging about bringing back kidnapped African girls.

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 28, 2025 05:52 PM (sPmfM)

85 The USAID/BigGov Goose that kept laying golden eggs (for anti-American leftists) has been set free, and is hating on those that kept stealing her eggs.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 28, 2025 05:53 PM (Cus5s)

86 Speaking of Newspaper Magnates, Disney is remaking Citizen Kane but in this iteration, Rosebud is a gigantic purple dildo.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 28, 2025 05:52 PM (XV/Pl)

If they named one of the Martian war machines Rosebud, I might consider watching it.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at February 28, 2025 05:53 PM (VNX3d)

87 "The Netherlands supports Ukraine as firmly as ever. Now more than ever. We want a lasting peace and an end to the war of aggression started by Russia. For Ukraine and its people, and for Europe."

Fine by me. And how many Dutch troops will you be committing? Zero? Ahem and how many tanks? Also, zero?

Let's cut to the chase, how much of anything can you provide, exactly?

Posted by: El Mariachi at February 28, 2025 05:53 PM (nLFEI)

88 I don't like either side, and there's only going to be peace when both sides want it more than they want to kill their people.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 05:52 PM (2VST1)

Of course..There are no good guy here

Posted by: It's me donna at February 28, 2025 05:53 PM (VE6XX)

89 Anyone have any good bark recipes?

Posted by: Gov. employee who thinks responding to an email is the same as living in North Korea at February 28, 2025 05:53 PM (ekQq7)

90 > If Bezos weren't such a softdick, that guy would already be fired.

I don't know what happened to Bezos. Back in the day he was a motherfucking hardass.

He should probably call up Elon and find out what kind of testosterone supplements Musk is taking, as Bezos clearly does not have the levels that he once did.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 28, 2025 05:53 PM (W5ArC)

91 Unless we are talking EVs.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 28, 2025 05:49 PM (i24o9)

Ram has a new EV/horse hybrid truck. It has a big EV battery and can go over 200 miles without a charge. It also has a horse trailer with a treadmill inside to recharge the battery, so you can keep driving longer without stopping to charge.

Oats not included.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 28, 2025 05:53 PM (kaEOr)

92 Still laughing about the butthole lasers in the sidebar. I would suppose the MSM knows a great deal about their practical uses...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 28, 2025 05:53 PM (ynpvh)

93 Left media is all in on how the Z thing is all Trump's fault.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2025 05:54 PM (QAkQ3)

94 This very well could finally drive a stake through NATO.
_____

We can get back to funding both sides. Turn the money laundromat back on!
- Sen Lindsey G.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at February 28, 2025 05:54 PM (Dv3i1)

95 91 Unless we are talking EVs.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 28, 2025 05:49 PM (i24o9)

Ram has a new EV/horse hybrid truck. It has a big EV battery and can go over 200 miles without a charge. It also has a horse trailer with a treadmill inside to recharge the battery, so you can keep driving longer without stopping to charge.

Oats not included.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 28, 2025 05:53 PM (kaEOr)

Isn't a mule a hybrid horse?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 28, 2025 05:54 PM (ynpvh)

96 And this right here, folks, is how the culture changes.

Posted by: kallisto at February 28, 2025 05:54 PM (IC8Yt)

97 Any country taking Ukraine's side can fund Ukraine's side.
Posted by: NCKate at February 28, 2025 05:48 PM (4bYb7)

After today I may start rooting for Russia.. Hate to say it
Posted by: It's me donna at February 28, 2025 05:49 PM (VE6XX)

You don't have to root for Russia. Russia has killed hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians. There's nothing good about that.

It's just that any reasonable analysis of this entire conflict is that it never had to happen, and the only reason it did is because the United States of America government pushed and pushed and pushed until Russia decided it had no other choice.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2025 05:54 PM (lH8E4)

98 > Let's cut to the chase, how much of anything can you provide, exactly?
Posted by: El Mariachi at February 28, 2025 05:53 PM (nLFEI)

5 wheels of Gouda cheese, a case of Heineken, and a hundred pairs of wooden shoes.

Try getting THOSE from the Americans. Ha!

Posted by: Dutch Treat at February 28, 2025 05:54 PM (W5ArC)

99 I don't understand what the fuck Zelensky was thinking, at all. I'd spend that whole meeting nodding my head and kissing the fucking ring.
Posted by: El Mariachi

That is not Slavic way, komrade! Throw on Adibas tracksuit, chug vodka, and wrestle bear. That is Slavic way.

Posted by: mikeskyy at February 28, 2025 05:55 PM (DgGvY)

100 "The Netherlands supports Ukraine as firmly as ever. Now more than ever.

As firmly and resolutely as our windmills follow the wind.

Posted by: The Netherlands at February 28, 2025 05:55 PM (1dUol)

101 Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2025 05:48 PM (lH8E4)

I only read the NY Post and only a couple of times a week, -and it has a number of columnists who are quite supportive of Trump and his agenda.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 28, 2025 05:55 PM (42Vb+)

102 Little z interview with Bret Baier on FoxNewsChannel is still go for 6 PM ET - 5 minutes from now.

Posted by: Gref at February 28, 2025 05:55 PM (aBgBM)

103 94 This very well could finally drive a stake through NATO.
_____

We can get back to funding both sides. Turn the money laundromat back on!
- Sen Lindsey G.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at February 28, 2025 05:54 PM (Dv3i1)

Saw a laundromat business named "Launderland"...would expect that to be a good name for Washington DC...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 28, 2025 05:55 PM (ynpvh)

104 Come to think of it, kind of hard to blame all the idiots on social media that think that putting a blue and yellow flag in your signature counts as fighting fascism. After all, that's effectively what whole countries are officially doing.

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at February 28, 2025 05:55 PM (B9Prs)

105 Fine by me. And how many Dutch troops will you be committing? Zero? Ahem and how many tanks? Also, zero?

Let's cut to the chase, how much of anything can you provide, exactly?
Posted by: El Mariachi
____

We have an abundance of tulips.

Posted by: The Dutch Military at February 28, 2025 05:55 PM (Dv3i1)

106
‘We stand with Ukraine!”

— Duchy of Grand Fenwick

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 28, 2025 05:56 PM (sPmfM)

107 Remember that poor young girl whose suicide the MFM blamed on bullying about being deported?

She had told friends that she was being molested by a relative.

Yeah, its a wonder why the MFM is dead.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 28, 2025 05:56 PM (i24o9)

108
Zelenskyy is gambling that taunting/dabbing on Trump will gain him more from the global TDS sufferers.

Good luck to him and them.

Posted by: Frank Barone at February 28, 2025 05:56 PM (+oR7L)

109 Me Freedman seems to miss the concept that you need profit when you are doing for profit journalism. Otherwise it's just
needy journalism

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 28, 2025 05:56 PM (EG7Bp)

110 Zelenskyy was not thinking. That is his problem. No, I take that back, he was thinking with the garbage brains of his Euro friends.

Posted by: runner at February 28, 2025 05:56 PM (g47mK)

111 >> 1) Russia is run by a thug tyrant and invaded Ukraine without just cause

Russia had a just cause to invade.

And why should I care if Putin is a “thug”? I guess it would be better if he was a squishy GWB-esque pussy who lets globalists screw over his country because “our democracy”?

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 28, 2025 05:57 PM (kaEOr)

112 Zelenskyy is gambling that taunting/dabbing on Trump will gain him more from the global TDS sufferers.

Good luck to him and them.
Posted by: Frank Barone at February 28, 2025 05:56 PM (+oR7L)

Perhaps Little Z should start a GoFundMe, to pay for the Ukrainian war.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at February 28, 2025 05:57 PM (VNX3d)

113 Euros hate Trump. Euros absolutely, positively hate Vance for making them cry. So of course they love Zelenskyy.

Posted by: runner at February 28, 2025 05:57 PM (g47mK)

114 Plus hash and shrooms for all. Russians too.

We can supply gin as well, or leave out the flavorings, in which case it is the same as vodka.

Posted by: Dutch Treat at February 28, 2025 05:57 PM (W5ArC)

115 1) Russia is run by a thug tyrant and invaded Ukraine without just cause

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 05:52 PM (2VST1)

Stop right there.

Anyone who continues to claim they weren't pushed into this is really not engaging in reality.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2025 05:57 PM (lH8E4)

116 Are the Ukraines Allies prepared to fight to the last Ukrainian?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2025 05:57 PM (U0o6X)

117 Ram has a new EV/horse hybrid truck. It has a big EV battery and can go over 200 miles without a charge.

The new Ford Maverick is a mini pickup, like the old toytas. Its a hybrid too, 6 cylinder engine with electric motors. Good idea for a pickup: you get the torque and towing with the electric and the range and freight capacity of the gas engine.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 05:57 PM (2VST1)

118 "Cri babies"

*snort*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 28, 2025 05:58 PM (Wnv9h)

119 Musk is wondering why Z man's wife is driving a Bugatti.

LOL

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 28, 2025 05:58 PM (uLKZx)

120 I am just concerned with security of our leaders, Euros can stoop very low.

Posted by: runner at February 28, 2025 05:58 PM (g47mK)

121 Immediately after Trump tossed Z, the US (through Rubio) cut the USAID contract rebuilding Ukraine's power grid after Zelensky got tossed. This contract had not yet been eliminated.
We'd already sent millions, but the millions more that were planned maybe will get rerouted to US places that need grid rebuilds...

Posted by: Nova Local at February 28, 2025 05:58 PM (exHjb)

122 110 Zelenskyy was not thinking. That is his problem. No, I take that back, he was thinking with the garbage brains of his Euro friends.

Posted by: runner at February 28, 2025 05:56 PM (g47mK)

And then there's the Chinese...apparently they're big-time into cable cutting. Must be part of their Belt and Road initiatives.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 28, 2025 05:58 PM (ynpvh)

123
"Latveria stands with our Ukranian brothers."
-- Victor Von Doom,
Chancellor, President, and Premier of Democratic Republic of Latveria

Posted by: Soothsayer at February 28, 2025 05:58 PM (5NS4y)

124 Around the net,....

It is funny how many bots and trolls are out there today. Who is funding them? CIA? EU? Russia? They are flooding all sites and the motive must be to keep the war going forever.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at February 28, 2025 05:58 PM (ekQq7)

125 > Russia had a just cause to invade.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 28, 2025 05:57 PM (kaEOr)

So we did. Just cause we felt like it.

The Ukrainians are basically just Russian hillbillies. Good for growing grain. Not much else.

Posted by: Vladimir Putin at February 28, 2025 05:58 PM (W5ArC)

126 Anyone who continues to claim they weren't pushed into this is really not engaging in reality.

They chose poorly. Russia has a claim to wanting to take action but invasion should have been wayyyy down the list. But just like Ukraine before and Georgia, Russia uses that as their first choice to just seize land.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 05:58 PM (2VST1)

127 Roll Hard Left And Die.

We're at the end of Sarah Hoyt's prediction over 8 years ago.

What do they do when there are no more lefty outlets to go to?

https://tinyurl.com/3d6634u3

Posted by: jsg at February 28, 2025 05:58 PM (UJ+K5)

128 And why should I care if Putin is a “thug”? I guess it would be better if he was a squishy GWB-esque pussy who lets globalists screw over his country because “our democracy”?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 28, 2025 05:57 PM (kaEOr)

Most countries are run by thugs. All over the world. For all time.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2025 05:59 PM (lH8E4)

129
Also the Media LOVES that Zelenskyy acted like a complete ass to Trump today. Zelenskyy thinks this will get him mileage globally.

It won't. Putin will chew threw him and his citizens just the same.

Posted by: Frank Barone at February 28, 2025 05:59 PM (+oR7L)

130 Kate has a great essay on the Zelenski/Trump/Vance press conference over on "Small Dead Animals."

Worth a read.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 28, 2025 05:59 PM (qtgHq)

131 "1) Russia is run by a thug tyrant and invaded Ukraine without just cause
2) Ukraine is a corrupt dump being used by the left for cash flow and the military-industrial complex for business and graft."

My guess is we need Russia as more of an ally against China. Same for India. Not sure where Pakistan fits in, but some say they are more tied to China, idk.

Putin says they are now part of the "free market world", post Soviet era. idk, but Putin does protect Christians, perhaps more than our Western "globalist" allies do.

Could Russia be more "Western" than some of our other "allies" (Saudi Arabia, Germany, parts of South America, even Japan?) All above my pay grade, but the New World Order gangsters (WEF/IMF/etc.) are not really Western, much more pagan, imo.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 28, 2025 05:59 PM (Cus5s)

132 The WaPo editorial page could now be headed "Free People, Free Markets"

Posted by: Oglebay at February 28, 2025 05:59 PM (2ap+5)

133
George Conway, a high-profile attorney and fixture on MSNBC

------

Well, he may be those things. But above all, he's fat.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at February 28, 2025 05:59 PM (QwK6F)

134 127 Roll Hard Left And Die.

We're at the end of Sarah Hoyt's prediction over 8 years ago.

What do they do when there are no more lefty outlets to go to?

https://tinyurl.com/3d6634u3

Posted by: jsg at February 28, 2025 05:58 PM (UJ+K5)

Tranny front-holes.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 28, 2025 05:59 PM (ynpvh)

135 They chose poorly.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 05:58 PM (2VST1)

The Russians sure don't think so.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2025 06:00 PM (lH8E4)

136 See what I mean though? Its all one side or the other like its sports rivals. And the people in the middle are the subjects of these two dictators, thrown into the meat grinder to get pulverized over the egos of two men.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 06:00 PM (2VST1)

137 Most countries are run by thugs. All over the world. For all time.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2025 05:59 PM (lH8E4)

Yep. Putin is a thug who at least fights for his country. Better than the thugs running the west who have been pushing rainbow communism down our throats for twenty years..

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 28, 2025 06:00 PM (kaEOr)

138 Dick Schoof
@MinPres

The Netherlands supports Ukraine as firmly as ever. Now more than ever. We want a lasting peace and an end to the war of aggression started by Russia. For Ukraine and its people, and for Europe.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at February 28, 2025 05:40 PM (TGPs7)

As all of these globalist leaders step up to the plate and bravely proclaim via social media that they stand for the exact opposite of Trump, whatever the issue, we should take the opportunity to note the world united and, therefore, will allow them to proceed on their own and make a separate peace with Russia.

I'd say that Ukraine would fall in days but Russia already has all the parts of Ukraine it wants.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 28, 2025 06:00 PM (ExV1e)

139 I think Zelensky is probably finished. Miss Lindsey said he was proud of Trump and JD, and thought Zelensky was disrespectful. Then the money shot: "I don't think we can ever work with him again." That's a clear call for his ouster.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at February 28, 2025 06:01 PM (paSBy)

140 Has it been settled yet whether King Harv is riding that shark, or wrestling it?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 28, 2025 05:41 PM (Dm8we)

Love is Love, H8er!

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 28, 2025 06:01 PM (FCbAQ)

141 Thank you, Zelensky. You did more today to get you off our government teat than I ever thought possible.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 28, 2025 06:01 PM (mB6WH)

142 But just like Ukraine before and Georgia, Russia uses that as their first choice to just seize land.
____

That's probably what Biden's handlers and the war profiteers were expecting.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at February 28, 2025 06:01 PM (Dv3i1)

143 140 Has it been settled yet whether King Harv is riding that shark, or wrestling it?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 28, 2025 05:41 PM (Dm8we)

Love is Love, H8er!

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 28, 2025 06:01 PM (FCbAQ)

Well, he could be jumping the shark, IYKWIMAITYD...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 28, 2025 06:01 PM (ynpvh)

144 I think you're missing my point -- our government (and presumably the USSR to their people as well) used the fear of a nuclear war to rob the taxpayers blind.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 28, 2025 05:30 PM (uCjyK)

Seems to me you are standing some 5000 miles or more away, with an ocean between Mr Hero.

You did give a standing O to an actual SS stormtrooper in your own Parliament though.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 28, 2025 06:02 PM (n7h9X)

145 Every one of the European nations that supports Ukraine is in danger of being overrun by Muslims. Apparently they think supporting Ukraine will prevent this. Bold strategy Cotton, let's see if it pays off

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 28, 2025 06:02 PM (EG7Bp)

146 81 Speaking of Newspaper Magnates, Disney is remaking Citizen Kane but in this iteration, Rosebud is a gigantic purple dildo.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 28, 2025 05:52 PM (XV/Pl)

there are some movies that should not be touched....

Citizen Kane. Marx Bros A Day at the Races. Second Hand Lions. Princess Bride. Original Willy Wonka. Original Wiz of Oz. White Christmas. Singing in the Rain. John Wayne Movies...

The Hollywood crap about remaking every classic, shows their lack of respect for the original actors producers, and directors... they are just trying to ride on the coat tails of the original popularity...

Like the Star Wars crap....

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2025 06:02 PM (QAkQ3)

147 > Could Russia be more "Western" than some of our other "allies"

Well, they're at least nominally Christian, despite the Sovs spending 70 years trying to stamp it out.

I don't recall if the Orthodox Church has been reinstated as the official state religion, but I do know it's no longer as oppressed as it was.

Posted by: Vladimir Putin at February 28, 2025 06:02 PM (W5ArC)

148 Any country taking Ukraine's side can fund Ukraine's side.
Posted by: NCKate
-----
After today I may start rooting for Russia.. Hate to say it
Posted by: It's me donna

Ever since LTC Bearclaw pulled his treasonous whistle blower bs, along with the left's witch hunt for Trump and love of everything Ukranian...I have quietly rooted for the Rooskies to take the whole damned place and expose the U.S. deep state's corruption there.

Posted by: BifBewalski at February 28, 2025 06:02 PM (MsrgL)

149 My guess is we need Russia as more of an ally against China. Same for India. Not sure where Pakistan fits in, but some say they are more tied to China, idk.

Putin says they are now part of the "free market world", post Soviet era. idk, but Putin does protect Christians, perhaps more than our Western "globalist" allies do.

Could Russia be more "Western" than some of our other "allies" (Saudi Arabia, Germany, parts of South America, even Japan?) All above my pay grade, but the New World Order gangsters (WEF/IMF/etc.) are not really Western, much more pagan, imo.
Posted by: illiniwek at February 28, 2025 05:59 PM (Cus5s)

In 1991, Russia was ready to join the West. They decided they were more interested in trade, than with trying to compete with weapons.

The U.S. of A. decided to Mean Girl them instead.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2025 06:02 PM (lH8E4)

150 That's probably what Biden's handlers and the war profiteers were expecting.

I think they were 100% counting on it, because Afghanistan was winding down and the big military profiteers needed a new conflict to keep the cash flowing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 06:02 PM (2VST1)

151 So far that's just chewing gum in the hole in the bucket.

Posted by: torabora at February 28, 2025 06:02 PM (0Gnoc)

152 80 It is frustrating for me seeing how polarized people are on Ukraine. I think we can hold two positions simultaneously, and be honest:

1) Russia is run by a thug tyrant and invaded Ukraine without just cause
2) Ukraine is a corrupt dump being used by the left for cash flow and the military-industrial complex for business and graft.

I don't like either side, and there's only going to be peace when both sides want it more than they want to kill their people.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 05:52 PM (2VST1)
_____________________________

I'm, personally, indifferent to the whole affair, and hold both sides in contempt. To me, I hold the same interest as I would between the Congolese Security Forces and M-23 (both of which are probably not even recognizable to most people in the US) but remarkably similar in origin to the Ukrainian issue.

What annoys me more than anything is the media's treatment of Ukraine. They never mention the Ukrainian oligarchs who park their laundered cash in Midwest US commercial properties that eventually end up being condemned (as these oligarchs had no intention of development)...and bankrupting small municipalities due to removal

Posted by: Orson at February 28, 2025 06:03 PM (dIske)

153 It's just so foreign to the 90% of people who work in the real world.

Yeah, my boss tells me to do shit all of the time. No, I don't always like doing what he tells me to.

But I figure I have two choices: smile and do it, or find a new job.

Same should be true for everyone in media and especially everyone working for the fucking government.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 28, 2025 05:40 PM (uCjyK)

Wait'll these brave flouncers discover that the employment which awaits them is their own personal substack, which no one will read, followed by queueing up at the gloryhole for their shot at $20.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 28, 2025 06:03 PM (ExV1e)

154 Oh, hey. There is a wildfire in Japan.

That was the thing I got in fight with troll about a few weeks back -- he said I knew nothing about Japan as they never had fires.

They are having one now in Iwate (far northeast below Hokkaido) 3000 people evacuated.

But Japanese twitter is all about the Whitehouse meeting. They seem to not take any side, but show concern about the WWIII threat.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at February 28, 2025 06:03 PM (ekQq7)

155 When will PBS be defunded? They've been a left wing think tank pravda for decades.

Posted by: Frank Barone at February 28, 2025 06:03 PM (+oR7L)

156 In 1991, Russia was ready to join the West. They decided they were more interested in trade, than with trying to compete with weapons.

The U.S. of A. decided to Mean Girl them instead.

Yeah that really angered and upset me. I was looking at the new world that was forming and thought "this is going to be great, finally Russia has a chance to be free, and what amazing stuff might we achieve with Russia as an ally instead of a foe?"

And Clinton couldn't wait to side with China instead.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 06:03 PM (2VST1)

157 Isnt the Owner the Ultimate Editor?

Posted by: Smileygg at February 28, 2025 06:03 PM (ZaPy0)

158 All I can say about Ukraine is that I'm sorry so many people had to die for this.. And yes Putin started it...

Posted by: It's me donna at February 28, 2025 06:04 PM (VE6XX)

159 John McVain had his grubby fingerprints all over Georgia.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 28, 2025 06:04 PM (mB6WH)

160 137 Most countries are run by thugs. All over the world. For all time.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2025 05:59 PM (lH8E4)

Yep. Putin is a thug who at least fights for his country. Better than the thugs running the west who have been pushing rainbow communism down our throats for twenty years..
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 28, 2025 06:00 PM (kaEOr)

And just how many countries do we have doing Combat ops in?

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2025 06:04 PM (QAkQ3)

161 149 My guess is we need Russia as more of an ally against China. Same for India. Not sure where Pakistan fits in, but some say they are more tied to China, idk.

Putin says they are now part of the "free market world", post Soviet era. idk, but Putin does protect Christians, perhaps more than our Western "globalist" allies do.

Could Russia be more "Western" than some of our other "allies" (Saudi Arabia, Germany, parts of South America, even Japan?) All above my pay grade, but the New World Order gangsters (WEF/IMF/etc.) are not really Western, much more pagan, imo.
Posted by: illiniwek at February 28, 2025 05:59 PM (Cus5s)

In 1991, Russia was ready to join the West. They decided they were more interested in trade, than with trying to compete with weapons.

The U.S. of A. decided to Mean Girl them instead.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2025 06:02 PM (lH8E4)

Back when we had a former-CIA head as President, followed by a President that liked female cigar humidifiers.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 28, 2025 06:04 PM (ynpvh)

162 This very well could finally drive a stake through NATO.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2025 05:41 PM (QAkQ3)

From your keyboard to GOD's monitor.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 28, 2025 06:04 PM (ExV1e)

163 Yep. Putin is a thug who at least fights for his country. Better than the thugs running the west who have been pushing rainbow communism down our throats for twenty years..
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 28, 2025 06:00 PM (kaEOr)

Rainbow communism, and flooding their nations with swarthy young men who don't seem particularly inclined to assimilate into their host nations.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2025 06:04 PM (lH8E4)

164 "Euros hate Trump. Euros absolutely, positively hate Vance for making them cry. So of course they love Zelenskyy."

So the Euros will finally take up the military slack and fund Mr. Z for the next $350B, and send their own boys to die for The Cause?

Posted by: illiniwek at February 28, 2025 06:05 PM (Cus5s)

165 Thank you, Zelensky. You did more today to get you off our government teat than I ever thought possible.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 28, 2025 06:01 PM (mB6WH)

yeah, that was good, this is what he does in private, meltdowns, tantrums, glad that those who were not aware got to see it

Posted by: runner at February 28, 2025 06:05 PM (g47mK)

166

Charles Foster Kane: You're right, I did lose a million dollars last year. I expect to lose a million dollars this year. I expect to lose a million dollars *next* year. You know, Mr. Thatcher, at the rate of a million dollars a year, I'll have to close this place in... sixty years.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 28, 2025 06:05 PM (63Dwl)

167 Zelensky is on Fox with Bret Baier right now.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 28, 2025 06:05 PM (LkLld)

168 > John Wayne Movies...

"She" Wore a Rainbow Ribbon.
Rio Homo
The Pink Berets

Posted by: Disney Pitch Meeting at February 28, 2025 06:05 PM (W5ArC)

169 Could Russia be more "Western" than some of our other "allies" (Saudi Arabia, Germany, parts of South America, even Japan?) All above my pay grade, but the New World Order gangsters (WEF/IMF/etc.) are not really Western, much more pagan, imo.
Posted by: illiniwek at February 28, 2025 05:59 PM (Cus5s)

They are more Christian for sure.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 28, 2025 06:05 PM (n7h9X)

170 Yeah, my boss tells me to do shit all of the time. No, I don't always like doing what he tells me to.

But I figure I have two choices: smile and do it, or find a new job.

Yeah, that's just part of the job. But remember 10, 20 years ago when we were saying "what are these snowflakes gonna do when they get to the real world??" Well is what they are gonna do: get jobs at companies that are subsidized by the federal government and leftist fools, so they can keep being crazy and not have to worry about competition or earning a dime.

But it looks like that is all withering on the vine.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 06:05 PM (2VST1)

171 So the Euros will finally take up the military slack and fund Mr. Z for the next $350B, and send their own boys to die for The Cause?
Posted by: illiniwek at February 28, 2025 06:05 PM (Cus5s)

LOLOLOL

Posted by: runner at February 28, 2025 06:05 PM (g47mK)

172 >> Its all one side or the other like its sports rivals.

Yep, that’s how wars tend to be.

>> And the people in the middle are the subjects of these two dictators, thrown into the meat grinder to get pulverized over the egos of two men.

The Russians seem pretty happy to be there. The Russian military is hitting its recruitment numbers. The Russian people seem pretty gung-ho about the war still.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 28, 2025 06:06 PM (kaEOr)

173 We have an abundance of tulips.
Posted by: The Dutch Military at February 28, 2025 05:55 PM (Dv3i1)

That's T-U-L-I-P!

Posted by: John Calvin, Crazy and Loving It at February 28, 2025 06:06 PM (R/m4+)

174 Since others have broken the 100 comment rule, looks like Z man did the Bret Baer interview.. And the Euroweenie Countries are all taking his side as we knew they would.
Posted by: It's me donna at February 28, 2025 05:43 PM (VE6XX)

Ace has said there's no 100 comment rule on his posts.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 28, 2025 06:06 PM (ExV1e)

175 And yes Putin started it...
Posted by: It's me donna at February 28, 2025 06:04 PM (VE6XX)

Provably false, but you're entitled to believe whatever you want.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2025 06:06 PM (lH8E4)

176 Has it been settled yet whether King Harv is riding that shark, or wrestling it?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 28, 2025 05:41 PM (Dm8we)

Love is Love, H8er!
Posted by: OneEyedJack
__________

I would definitely try the Sharkfucker blend.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 28, 2025 06:06 PM (Dm8we)

177 Zelensky fancies himself as Tony Montana.

After today, he looks more like Hannah Montana.

Posted by: jsg at February 28, 2025 06:06 PM (UJ+K5)

178
Provably false, but you're entitled to believe whatever you want.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2025 06:06 PM (lH8E4)

He didn't invade ?

Posted by: It's me donna at February 28, 2025 06:07 PM (VE6XX)

179 John Wayne Movies...

"She" Wore a Rainbow Ribbon.
Rio Homo
The Pink Berets

Posted by: Disney Pitch Meeting at February 28, 2025 06:05 PM (W5ArC)

The last one could feature the UK's Red Berets - parachute forces. Their berets faded in the wash.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at February 28, 2025 06:07 PM (VNX3d)

180 80 It is frustrating for me seeing how polarized people are on Ukraine. I think we can hold two positions simultaneously, and be honest:

1) Russia is run by a thug tyrant and invaded Ukraine without just cause
2) Ukraine is a corrupt dump being used by the left for cash flow and the military-industrial complex for business and graft.

I don't like either side, and there's only going to be peace when both sides want it more than they want to kill their people.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 05:52 PM (2VST1)

For some of us, the real problem is not EITHER of those countries, but like Covid, what our own Government has done.

They used taxpayer money, to help create that crises in the first place.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2025 06:07 PM (QAkQ3)

181 "The Netherlands supports Ukraine as firmly as ever. Now more than ever. We want a lasting peace and an end to the war of aggression started by Russia. For Ukraine and its people, and for Europe."

Fine by me. And how many Dutch troops will you be committing? Zero? Ahem and how many tanks? Also, zero?

Let's cut to the chase, how much of anything can you provide, exactly?

Posted by: El Mariachi at February 28, 2025 05:53 PM (nLFEI)

Let the tulip humpers invade if they want.

We can help them finance it by purchasing Greenland.

It's a win-win.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 28, 2025 06:07 PM (i24o9)

182 1) Russia is run by a thug tyrant and invaded Ukraine without just cause
2) Ukraine is a corrupt dump being used by the left for cash flow and the military-industrial complex for business and graft.

I don't like either side, and there's only going to be peace when both sides want it more than they want to kill their people.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

I contend your first point is erroneous. Russia had many reasons to invade. And you've read them. You know them. Don't do that. At the very least acknowledge the duplicity of the west here.

Posted by: MkY at February 28, 2025 06:07 PM (cPGH3)

183 I saw Party-school Gay Sorority for Retards open for the Butthole Surfers at Numbers back in '99

Posted by: brak at February 28, 2025 06:07 PM (L2NBS)

184 > And Clinton couldn't wait to side with China instead.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 06:03 PM (2VST1)

Russia was flat broke at the time, while China had plenty of money for bribes.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 28, 2025 06:07 PM (W5ArC)

185 Putin had a deal - Minks agreement, and Zelenskyy did what he did in the Oval.

Posted by: runner at February 28, 2025 06:07 PM (g47mK)

186
Cillian
@CilComLFC

🇺🇦 BREAKING: Ukrainian MP Oleksandr Dubinsky just called for an Emergency Session of Ukraine’s Parliament to initiate IMPEACHMENT Proceedings against President Zelensky after the Oval Office shouting match.

This is HUGE. Zelensky’s Regime is collapsing in real time.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at February 28, 2025 06:07 PM (TGPs7)

187 Yeah, that's just part of the job. But remember 10, 20 years ago when we were saying "what are these snowflakes gonna do when they get to the real world??" Well is what they are gonna do: get jobs at companies that are subsidized by the federal government and leftist fools, so they can keep being crazy and not have to worry about competition or earning a dime.

But it looks like that is all withering on the vine.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 06:05 PM (2VST1)

Reality always wins. You can hide records you can swear people to secrecy or indoctrinate them for 100 years but when you use a broken beam to hold up a structure you won't fool gravity or the metal.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 28, 2025 06:07 PM (n7h9X)

188 The shark was asking for it. Did you see how it was dressed?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2025 06:07 PM (U0o6X)

189 The Russians seem pretty happy to be there. The Russian military is hitting its recruitment numbers. The Russian people seem pretty gung-ho about the war still.

There is plenty of dissent, they just tend to end up in jail or falling out a window. That usually quiets people down a lot.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 06:07 PM (2VST1)

190 Let the tulip humpers invade if they want.

We can help them finance it by purchasing Greenland.
_____

Umm...

Posted by: Chuck Martel at February 28, 2025 06:08 PM (Dv3i1)

191 184 > And Clinton couldn't wait to side with China instead.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 06:03 PM (2VST1)

Russia was flat broke at the time, while China had plenty of money for bribes.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 28, 2025 06:07 PM (W5ArC)

Like those Buddhist monks in Arizona, IIRC.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 28, 2025 06:08 PM (ynpvh)

192 186
Cillian
@CilComLFC

🇺🇦 BREAKING: Ukrainian MP Oleksandr Dubinsky just called for an Emergency Session of Ukraine’s Parliament to initiate IMPEACHMENT Proceedings against President Zelensky after the Oval Office shouting match.

This is HUGE. Zelensky’s Regime is collapsing in real time.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at February 28, 2025 06:07 PM (TGPs7)

As mentioned, Graham is Deep State/WEF - he gave the message that Z cost himself his job. Money talks, and BS walks...

Graham can't get money for Ukraine with Z in charge anymore...

Posted by: Nova Local at February 28, 2025 06:08 PM (exHjb)

193 After today I may start rooting for Russia.. Hate to say it

Posted by: It's me donna at February 28, 2025 05:49 PM (VE6XX)

I am rooting against both Russia and Ukraine.

And I am rooting for America. That means no foreign entanglements that will get a lot of our youth killed. And no further funding of the quagmire.

That is far more important than a border clash between neighbors that have hated each other for years.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 28, 2025 06:09 PM (mWSu4)

194 Baier kissing Zelensky's ass right now, and allowing him the mic to speak endlessly with no rebuttals or followups.

Trump should tell Fox News they have zero access to anything starting this minute. No press room, no oval office events, no Air Force One, nothing on the grounds inside or out.

Peter Doocy and Jacqui Heinrich can get their quotes from across the street.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at February 28, 2025 06:09 PM (KiBMU)

195 > We can help them finance it by purchasing Greenland.

Err... that's the Danes, not the Dutch.

I know it's hard to tell those postage-stamp-sized Eurotrash countries apart.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 28, 2025 06:09 PM (W5ArC)

196 I contend we don't even know what Russia is like, or at least very little about it. We read what we are allowed to read (at least heretofore).

Posted by: MkY at February 28, 2025 06:09 PM (cPGH3)

197 John Hudson
@John_Hudson
🚨The Trump administration is considering ending all ongoing shipments of military aid to Ukraine in response to Zelensky’s remarks in the Oval Office on Friday and his perceived intransigence in the peace process, per senior administration official
1:46 PM · Feb 28, 2025
The decision, if taken, would apply to billions of dollars of radars, vehicles, ammunition and missiles awaiting shipment to Ukraine through the presidential drawdown authority, said the official.
1:48 PM · Feb 28, 2025

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at February 28, 2025 06:09 PM (oM9kc)

198 The Russians seem pretty happy to be there. The Russian military is hitting its recruitment numbers. The Russian people seem pretty gung-ho about the war still.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 28, 2025 06:06 PM (kaEOr)

Western media continues to lie about all of it. They make up bullshit casualties, which are probably closer to 7 to 1 in Russia's favor. They lie about the state of the Russian economy. They lie about how popular Putin is in Russia, and how much support he has from the other powers that be in the nation.

Russia won this thing more than a year ago, and the American taxpayer has keep the war on life support. Which has only resulted in more dead Ukrainians.

We've been doing that. Us.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2025 06:10 PM (lH8E4)

199 I contend your first point is erroneous. Russia had many reasons to invade.

They had many reasons to be upset, but invasion is another step entirely. They skipped all the other ones and just sent in their military, like they did with Georgia before, and Ukraine once earlier under Obama. They had reasons to be upset, but the invasion was pretext for their real goal: control this land they claimed.

We didn't like the USSR putting missiles in Cuba but we didn't invade the place as our first option LOL

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 06:10 PM (2VST1)

200 Paco World News Daily (PWND) bids one dollar for the Washington Post.
Posted by: Paco at February 28, 2025 05:38 PM (mADJX)

A dollar and one penny.

Posted by: naturalfake World Bugler at February 28, 2025 06:10 PM (iJfKG)

201 BREAKING: Ukrainian MP Oleksandr Dubinsky just called for an Emergency Session of Ukraine’s Parliament to initiate IMPEACHMENT Proceedings against President Zelensky after the Oval Office shouting match.

This is HUGE. Zelensky’s Regime is collapsing in real time.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at February 28, 2025 06:07 PM (TGPs7)

Z left the country, rookie move.

Read a book about the struggle for Romanov and Gorby to win the battle to become Soviet leader and it went back and forth because one would leave Moscow and lose ground, then the other would. Finally Gorby refused to leave and the old Premier died at the right time and Romanov was out.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 28, 2025 06:10 PM (n7h9X)

202 Provably false, but you're entitled to believe whatever you want.
Posted by: BurtTC

Everybody's had to fight to be free

Posted by: Tom Petty at February 28, 2025 06:10 PM (ekQq7)

203 "3. Influence. This is why Bezos probably bought the Post in the first place, to have a voice in Washington DC as they eyed up anti-trust actions against Amazon."

What I said from the start. And for Bezos to play Charles Foster Kane when he felt like it.

For it to continue to have Influence, WaPo 's editorial page needs to change for obvious reasons. Or Bezos could shut WaPo down. The idiot staffers don't want to see this.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 28, 2025 06:10 PM (Gqoy+)

204 Bret Baer is a wuss

Posted by: It's me donna at February 28, 2025 06:10 PM (VE6XX)

205 Paco World News Daily (PWND) bids one dollar for the Washington Post.
Posted by: Paco at February 28, 2025 05:38 PM (mADJX)

A dollar and one penny.

Posted by: naturalfake World Bugler at February 28, 2025 06:10 PM (iJfKG)

A 4x4, 8' post.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at February 28, 2025 06:10 PM (VNX3d)

206 195 > We can help them finance it by purchasing Greenland.

Err... that's the Danes, not the Dutch.

I know it's hard to tell those postage-stamp-sized Eurotrash countries apart.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 28, 2025 06:09 PM (W5ArC)

Hey!

Posted by: Liechtenstein at February 28, 2025 06:11 PM (ynpvh)

207 Soon mainstream journalism will go into a doom loop of AI writing stories, to be read by learning AI. It will be worse than inbreeding.

Posted by: TC at February 28, 2025 06:11 PM (cHOHf)

208 Graham has managed to get his stash accounts out of Ukraine so he's good with Zelensky getting the hook

Posted by: Ben Had at February 28, 2025 06:11 PM (mB6WH)

209 "... basically a party-school gay sorority for retards."

Classic Ace.

Posted by: front toward enemy at February 28, 2025 06:11 PM (TIizU)

210 > We can help them finance it by purchasing Greenland.

Err... that's the Danes, not the Dutch.

I know it's hard to tell those postage-stamp-sized Eurotrash countries apart.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 28, 2025 06:09 PM (W5ArC)

Yeah, that's the joke.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 28, 2025 06:11 PM (i24o9)

211 > Hey!
Posted by: Liechtenstein at February 28, 2025 06:11 PM (ynpvh)

Don't forget us!

Posted by: Luxembourg at February 28, 2025 06:12 PM (W5ArC)

212 We didn't like the USSR putting missiles in Cuba but we didn't invade the place as our first option LOL
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 06:10 PM (2VST1)

Cuba got nukes on it because of our failed attempt to oust the commies, though.

And we should have invaded instead of the bungled Bay of Pigs mess. JFK sucked.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 28, 2025 06:12 PM (kaEOr)

213 Russia is not our friend.

That said, and I said this 3 years ago, we NEED to ally with Russia against China and islam.

This war is one giant CF and needs to end now at any cost, including half of Ukraine. (Whom I love and pity, and who are not Russian, and they deserve better but life is unfair.)

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at February 28, 2025 06:12 PM (ekQq7)

214 To be honest, how could any newspaper be profitable these days?
You're not completing with print anymore, it's all digital.
I mean, the barrier cost to entry for competition is the price of an internet connection.

As a yout, I really liked going to the high school library and reading the several newspapers.
I also enjoyed going to Blockbuster on Friday or Saturday nights.

Does it suck that's all going away?
Yeah.

Does that mean we need subsidize Blockbuster via USAID?
No.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 28, 2025 06:13 PM (uLKZx)

215 Influence. This is why Bezos probably bought the Post in the first place, to have a voice in Washington DC as they eyed up anti-trust actions against Amazon.

They were never going to do that unless Bezos went along with the agenda. Once he started to play along and be a good leftist stooge they dropped it all. Same with Microsoft, same with Facebook.

The Democrats hauled their bosses in front of congress to grill and threaten them and suddenly all these companies became super woke and like magic all the threats and hearings ended.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 06:13 PM (2VST1)

216 205 Paco World News Daily (PWND) bids one dollar for the Washington Post.
Posted by: Paco at February 28, 2025 05:38 PM (mADJX)

A dollar and one penny.

Posted by: naturalfake World Bugler at February 28, 2025 06:10 PM (iJfKG)

A 4x4, 8' post.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at February 28, 2025 06:10 PM (VNX3d)

Dunno. I'd have to be paid a handsome sum to take that garbage.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 28, 2025 06:13 PM (ynpvh)

217 What's wrong with the Raspberry Berets?

Posted by: Thanatopsis at February 28, 2025 06:13 PM (GYt5+)

218 211 > Hey!
Posted by: Liechtenstein at February 28, 2025 06:11 PM (ynpvh)

Don't forget us!
Posted by: Luxembourg
______

No one remembers us.

Posted by: Andorra at February 28, 2025 06:13 PM (Dv3i1)

219 Jeez, CRT, we ain't gonna agree on this, I see. Fair enough.
Answer this... when did Russia go from being the left's hero to being the bogeyman?
It wasn't when they invaded Ukraine.
What actually precipitated the invasion?
I'd argue two things... the talk of expanding NATO east of where everyone (us included) had agreed, and Biden saying a "minor incursion" probably wasn't a big deal.

Posted by: MkY at February 28, 2025 06:13 PM (cPGH3)

220 Do we really need Ukraine's minerals ? Probably easier to gain Greenland.

Posted by: jsg at February 28, 2025 06:14 PM (UJ+K5)

221 Provably false, but you're entitled to believe whatever you want.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2025 06:06 PM (lH8E4)

He didn't invade ?
Posted by: It's me donna at February 28, 2025 06:07 PM (VE6XX)

If someone comes into your house, starts taking your shit, then gets in your face and says "I dare you to hit me," and then you hit them.

Who "started" it?

Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2025 06:14 PM (lH8E4)

222 We didn't like the USSR putting missiles in Cuba but we didn't invade the place as our first option LOL
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 06:10 PM (2VST1)

Uh.... Bay of Pigs?

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2025 06:14 PM (QAkQ3)

223 I would love to be a fly on the wall (that understands Russian) when Putin and his top aides watch the presser in the oval office.

Posted by: JuJuBee at February 28, 2025 06:15 PM (r++TH)

224 Does it suck that's all going away?
Yeah.

Does that mean we need subsidize Blockbuster via USAID?
No.

Yeah things change. The beautiful farm I grew up on and explored the woods behind every day is now a huge ugly housing complex, ticky tacky houses on cul-de-sacs. I can't bear to go there and look at it. But time marches on. I used to be able to bike 10 miles a day and work 8 hours. Now I can barely walk around a city block.

Life keeps moving on, and its foolish to try to fight against the changes unless they are corrupt or immoral.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 06:15 PM (2VST1)

225 > 200 Paco World News Daily (PWND) bids one dollar for the Washington Post.
Posted by: Paco at February 28, 2025 05:38 PM (mADJX)

The Paolo, he would have given them at least $25 in the days when the Sally Quinn was still, how you say, the smokeshow.

Now all they have is the Jennifer Rubin and not even The Paolo's famous virility is up to that challenge.

Posted by: The Paolo at February 28, 2025 06:15 PM (W5ArC)

226 Western media continues to lie about all of it. They make up bullshit casualties, which are probably closer to 7 to 1 in Russia's favor.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2025 06:10 PM (lH8E4)

Think what you want about the issue, but pulling absolutely nonsensical statistics out of your ass is not a good look.

7:1 in Russia's favor is ridiculous.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 28, 2025 06:15 PM (mWSu4)

227 Do we really need Ukraine's minerals ? Probably easier to gain Greenland.
Posted by: jsg at February 28, 2025 06:14 PM (UJ+K5)

Apparently they have nice minerals. Really good minerals. Huge minerals.

We'd like them. But the way most of us operate, when someone has something we want is, we pay for them.

Not the U.S. government though.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2025 06:16 PM (lH8E4)

228 A 4x4, 8' post.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at February 28, 2025 06:10 PM (VNX3d)

Dunno. I'd have to be paid a handsome sum to take that garbage.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 28, 2025 06:13 PM (ynpvh)

Well, the purchase would include the use of Louisville Sluggers to manage journalistic accuracy, performance, and ethics of the Washington Post staff.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at February 28, 2025 06:16 PM (VNX3d)

229 Answer this... when did Russia go from being the left's hero to being the bogeyman?

When they stopped letting western homosexual men adopt Russian boys. I'm not even joking.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 06:16 PM (2VST1)

230 If you think this war started a couple of years ago when Putin just woke up with a hair across his ass and invaded Ukraine you don't really understand what's going on.

This was 2008. The back and forth shit was going on for decades before that. Anyone who actually knows the history of this region was not surprised that Putin invaded Ukraine or why. It doesn't matter what we think, this is what Russians thought and everyone knew it.

>>"NATO membership for Ukraine means death for Russia," nationalist publisher Aleksandr Prokhanov has said.

>>Russian analysts realize that support in the United States for Ukraine`s eventual NATO membership is not limited to the George W. Bush administration. It has bipartisan backing in both houses of the U.S. Congress, both of which this year passed resolutions of support. Russian media have noted that all the remaining U.S. presidential candidates -- Senators John McCain (Republican, Arizona), Hillary Clinton (Democrat, New York), and Barak Obama (Democrat, Illinois) -- support NATO membership for both Ukraine and Georgia. Obama was an initiator of the corresponding resolution in the Senate.

https://tinyurl.com/bdf75r8s

Posted by: JackStraw at February 28, 2025 06:16 PM (LkLld)

231 Don't care about Russia or Ukraine.. I care about America and I don't want to spend another dime of our money there and I don't appreciate a little Dictator coming into the Oval office and insulting the President....

Posted by: It's me donna at February 28, 2025 06:16 PM (VE6XX)

232 Delivering newspapers and collecting 60 years ago was the meanest, most crooked racket ever conceived to oppress young boys.

Looking back, it helped me come to terms with what assholes the left are.
---
And older brothers.
Who convinced me tromping up and down the streets at pre-dawn in sub-zero temps was worth a penny a paper working as a sub-contractor for them.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 28, 2025 06:16 PM (uLKZx)

233 > No one remembers us.
Posted by: Andorra at February 28, 2025 06:13 PM (Dv3i1)

The only thing we have is a cross, and we don't even get royalties for that.

Posted by: Malta at February 28, 2025 06:16 PM (W5ArC)

234 Think what you want about the issue, but pulling absolutely nonsensical statistics out of your ass is not a good look.

7:1 in Russia's favor is ridiculous.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 28, 2025 06:15 PM (mWSu4)

Once again, Charlie, you' don't know what you're talking about.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2025 06:17 PM (lH8E4)

235 They had many reasons to be upset, but invasion is another step entirely. They skipped all the other ones and just sent in their military, like they did with Georgia before, and Ukraine once earlier under Obama. They had reasons to be upset, but the invasion was pretext for their real goal: control this land they claimed.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 06:10 PM (2VST1)

Georgia and Chechnya and the Maidan Coups were all USAID American operations.

Russia spent months trying to get Ukraine, US and EU to sit down and discuss the Minsk accords. They were denied. Germany France and Ukraine all publicly admitted they lied on the two Minsk treaties so they could Rearm Ukraine. And then Ukraine started shelling the Donbas before the SMO was launched.

And the first Istanbul treaty STILL did not incorporate the Donbas into Russia. The basis was to have them self ruling inside Ukraine. Pretty strange for someone hell bent on invading for 8 years.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 28, 2025 06:17 PM (n7h9X)

236
Russia could have pretty easily been brought into the Western/US sphere of influence, after the Fall of the Communist gov't.

The Big Brains of Our Betters totally fucked that up though.

Honestly, Russia allied with China makes zero sense as China is going to seize Russia's southern oil republics as soon as they can.

Dumbasses all around. Call me, President Trump.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 28, 2025 06:17 PM (iJfKG)

237 The only thing that would have made The Zelensky Oval Office Face Plant even more cormulent would have been if Elon Musk was there, arms folded, making frowny faces at Zelensky.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 28, 2025 06:17 PM (XV/Pl)

238 > 229 Answer this... when did Russia go from being the left's hero to being the bogeyman?

When they stopped being communists, of course.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 28, 2025 06:17 PM (W5ArC)

239 As a yout, I really liked going to the high school library and reading the several newspapers.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 28, 2025 06:13 PM (uLKZx)

On those weird sticks that looked like Kendo swords!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 28, 2025 06:17 PM (mWSu4)

240 After today I may start rooting for Russia.. Hate to say it
Posted by: It's me donna at February 28, 2025 05:49 PM (VE6XX)

Insofar as I've been rooting for anyone, I've been rooting for Russia since day 1. Russia is "the aggressor" but they aren't the villain and it's obvious to anyone with two braincells that Ukraine couldn't win sans WW3, which wasn't going to happen. When Zelensky tore up the agreement with Russia in 2022, that was the final nail.

Mostly, though, I just want to stop paying for it.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 28, 2025 06:17 PM (ExV1e)

241 What's wrong with the Raspberry Berets?
Posted by: Thanatopsis at February 28, 2025 06:13 PM

The raspberry beignets are great. It's the grape you have to watch out for.

Posted by: JuJuBee at February 28, 2025 06:18 PM (r++TH)

242 233 > No one remembers us.
Posted by: Andorra at February 28, 2025 06:13 PM (Dv3i1)

The only thing we have is a cross, and we don't even get royalties for that.

Posted by: Malta at February 28, 2025 06:16 PM (W5ArC)

Hey, we may be the smallest country, but we have the Pope...oh wait...

Posted by: Vatican City at February 28, 2025 06:18 PM (ynpvh)

243 They also have the Maltese Falcon.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2025 06:18 PM (U0o6X)

244 237 The only thing that would have made The Zelensky Oval Office Face Plant even more cormulent would have been if Elon Musk was there, arms folded, making frowny faces at Zelensky.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 28, 2025 06:17 PM (XV/Pl)

Lol True

Posted by: It's me donna at February 28, 2025 06:18 PM (VE6XX)

245 When they stopped letting western homosexual men adopt Russian boys. I'm not even joking.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

My point exactly.
THAT"S when they became the bogeyman.

Posted by: MkY at February 28, 2025 06:18 PM (cPGH3)

246 You don't come into Our house and insult us..

Posted by: It's me donna at February 28, 2025 06:18 PM (VE6XX)

247 241 What's wrong with the Raspberry Berets?
Posted by: Thanatopsis at February 28, 2025 06:13 PM

The raspberry beignets are great. It's the grape you have to watch out for.

Posted by: JuJuBee at February 28, 2025 06:18 PM (r++TH)

Definitely don't buy at a 2nd-hand store...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 28, 2025 06:19 PM (ynpvh)

248 Does anyone doubt that Trump stage-managed today and that Z is now facing no outside help for Ukraine. Putin can steam-roll all of Ukraine if that happens.

Ukraine's only option is to kick out Z and sue for peace on the terms that Trump and Putin have aready privately agreed to. Part of that deal was for Putin to not take advantage in the interim.

I can't wait for the proof that the likes of Blinken and Sullivan have already made enormous fortunes by fleecing US taxpayers.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 28, 2025 06:19 PM (Gqoy+)

249 I'd argue two things... the talk of expanding NATO east of where everyone (us included) had agreed, and Biden saying a "minor incursion" probably wasn't a big deal.
Posted by: MkY at February 28, 2025 06:13 PM (cPGH3)

Add in when Ethnic Russians, who had often been Russian Citizens in their lifetime, had their language outlawed... so they rebelled... and Uke sent troops to put down the rebellion.

It's like the Viet Nam war 'popular history'... where we lost Viet Nam.... but people don't know we had Peace with them for a Year or so, before Congress decided no more support at all for South Viet Nam.... so the North then tested the waters... and when we did nought... invaded.

Giap's memoirs are clear on the sequence.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2025 06:19 PM (QAkQ3)

250 This is HUGE. Zelensky’s Regime is collapsing in real time.

==

this person is incarcerated, regardless, the Kiev regime is kaput, as their German friends would say

Posted by: runner at February 28, 2025 06:19 PM (g47mK)

251 Answer this... when did Russia go from being the left's hero to being the bogeyman?

When they stopped letting western homosexual men adopt Russian boys. I'm not even joking.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 06:16 PM (2VST1)

The BBC did a full color expose on how Nazi the Azov battalion and other militias were about a year before the SMO.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 28, 2025 06:19 PM (n7h9X)

252 Russia could have pretty easily been brought into the Western/US sphere of influence, after the Fall of the Communist gov't.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 28, 2025 06:17 PM (iJfKG)

Simply by pointing out the obvious, that China was going to be a big problem.

A cold peace with Russia...allies of convenience...would have worked reasonably well.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 28, 2025 06:20 PM (mWSu4)

253 Charles Foster Kane has entered the chat.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at February 28, 2025 06:20 PM (MZ+PY)

254 You know who else's regime collapsed?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2025 06:20 PM (U0o6X)

255 >>Answer this... when did Russia go from being the left's hero to being the bogeyman?

When the intel community and the establishment blob in DC decided it was time to go a different direction including taking Georgia and Ukraine.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 28, 2025 06:21 PM (LkLld)

256 Boss Hogg >> Little Z

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at February 28, 2025 06:21 PM (VNX3d)

257 They also have the Maltese Falcon.
Posted by: Boss Moss
___________

And the MST3k classic Final Justice, starring Joe Don Baker, was filmed there.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 28, 2025 06:21 PM (Dm8we)

258 The BBC did a full color expose on how Nazi the Azov battalion and other militias were about a year before the SMO.

Yeah, that's why I find it so bizarre that the left is so in love with Ukraine. Dude. They literally have Nazis in their army. The nation has long been Nazi sympathetic. They're supposedly your worst enemies.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 06:21 PM (2VST1)

259 You know who else's regime collapsed?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2025 06:20 PM (U0o6X)

Blockbuster Video?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 28, 2025 06:21 PM (i24o9)

260 There is plenty of dissent, they just tend to end up in jail or falling out a window. That usually quiets people down a lot.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 06:07 PM (2VST1)

Yeah, a few high-level troublemakers got thrown out windows. Would it be such a bad thing if some of the more obnoxious Democrats found themselves defenestrated?

Still, overall, the support for the war and Putin are high among the Russian people. I’ve worked with a number of Russians. They’re patriotic people. They don’t hate America, but they love their country and they see Putin as a pragmatic centrist who navigated Russia out of some bad times.

I read a lot of Russian bloggers. The ones who are critical of Putin think he isn’t going nearly far enough. The “dissidents” who want to flood Russia with trannies, third-world economic migrants, and fat feminists are mostly a western psyop. They have no real constituency within Russia.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 28, 2025 06:21 PM (kaEOr)

261 It's like the Viet Nam war 'popular history'... where we lost Viet Nam.... but people don't know we had Peace with them for a Year or so, before Congress decided no more support at all for South Viet Nam.... so the North then tested the waters... and when we did nought... invaded.

Giap's memoirs are clear on the sequence.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2025 06:19 PM (QAkQ3)

One thing that happened in S. Viet Nam is twerps going out to the farm areas and teaching them about proper communal socialist farming. They started to figure better the local commie to the white devil commies.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 28, 2025 06:21 PM (n7h9X)

262 I honestly believe we (as Americans) have more in common with Russians than the (now Islamicized) Euroweenies.

Posted by: MkY at February 28, 2025 06:21 PM (cPGH3)

263 Posted by: Oldcat at February 28, 2025 06:17 PM (n7h9X)

In Georgia we actually had US Spec Ops troops there, 'training' the Georgia Military.

Bridge too far.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2025 06:21 PM (QAkQ3)

264 San Marino says leave us alone. It's bad enough we're surrounded by Italy

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 28, 2025 06:22 PM (EG7Bp)

265 Boss Hogg >> Little Z

Same height.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2025 06:22 PM (U0o6X)

266 Has it been settled yet whether King Harv is riding that shark, or wrestling it?

Or Option C.
Like when a little kid visits a farm. “Daddy, that big cow is trying to jump up on the little cow..”
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director

Taunt the chicken-****ers all you want.

But leave the shark-****ers alone, lest ye be next.

Posted by: Sun Tzu or somebody like that at February 28, 2025 06:22 PM (DgGvY)

267 257 They also have the Maltese Falcon.
Posted by: Boss Moss
___________

And the MST3k classic Final Justice, starring Joe Don Baker, was filmed there.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 28, 2025 06:21 PM (Dm8we)

I was always a fan of Maltese Milk Balls. Oh, that's Malted. NVM.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 28, 2025 06:22 PM (ynpvh)

268 Answer this... when did Russia go from being the left's hero to being the bogeyman?
---------------
When the intel community and the establishment blob in DC decided it was time to go a different direction including taking Georgia and Ukraine.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 28, 2025 06:21 PM (LkLld)

Among other things, we had a list of countries we were going to overthrow, and Syria was on the list.

Russia said no.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2025 06:23 PM (lH8E4)

269 259 You know who else's regime collapsed?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2025 06:20 PM (U0o6X)

Blockbuster Video?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 28, 2025 06:21 PM (i24o9)

Pizza Hut?

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2025 06:23 PM (QAkQ3)

270 The BBC did a full color expose on how Nazi the Azov battalion and other militias were about a year before the SMO.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 28, 2025 06:19 PM (n7h9X)

And all of the idiots of the soft left in America ignored that reality.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 28, 2025 06:23 PM (mWSu4)

271 Boss Hogg >> Little Z

Same height.
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2025 06:22 PM (U0o6X)

Correct for brain power, though, and not killing the goose that lays the golden eggs.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at February 28, 2025 06:23 PM (VNX3d)

272 262 I honestly believe we (as Americans) have more in common with Russians than the (now Islamicized) Euroweenies.

Posted by: MkY at February 28, 2025 06:21 PM (cPGH3)

Is it proper to call them euroweenies when they cut their dicks off?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 28, 2025 06:23 PM (ynpvh)

273 Look at history for the last 200 years. The Russians want friends on their western frontier. They already got a giant ogre on their eastern one,.

Posted by: MkY at February 28, 2025 06:23 PM (cPGH3)

274 Yeah, that's why I find it so bizarre that the left is so in love with Ukraine. Dude. They literally have Nazis in their army. The nation has long been Nazi sympathetic. They're supposedly your worst enemies.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 06:21 PM (2VST1)

Newland explicitly backed the Azovs because the main army might be too Russian sympathetic. About 25 percent of the pre-war armed forces. Like the SS. They get all the best stuff though they sometimes retreat rather than help the regular army and conscripts.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 28, 2025 06:25 PM (n7h9X)

275 Zelensky remains delusional. This interview is not helping him.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 28, 2025 06:25 PM (LkLld)

276 I'm sure it's been mentioned, but I'm assuming it was never the billionaires money m

Posted by: Boron Quidquid questions if McConnell survived after having polio at February 28, 2025 06:25 PM (SFVuP)

277 A cold peace with Russia...allies of convenience...would have worked reasonably well.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

...YES...PLEASE...INITIATE...AS...SOON...AS...POSSIBLE...

Posted by: Colossus, the Corbin Project at February 28, 2025 06:25 PM (DsA2n)

278 Answer this... when did Russia go from being the left's hero to being the bogeyman?
******

The day when Putin told Obama that communism didn't work and that he shouldn't go down that path. The fact is that the democrats hoped and reamed that Russia would go soviet socialist again and that they could join the party. The reset button went away and a new cold war against Russia began.

Posted by: long night...lifted at February 28, 2025 06:25 PM (2NXcZ)

279 Is it proper to call them euroweenies when they cut their dicks off?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Dunno. Eurotwats? Eurotrash?

Posted by: MkY at February 28, 2025 06:25 PM (cPGH3)

280 Russians around worried about the # of Chinese working in Siberia. They'd make a nice fifth column.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 28, 2025 06:26 PM (EG7Bp)

281 The newspaper's top opinion editor, David Shipley, quit in protest, and journalists in the newsroom -- already in the midst of an exodus to other outlets -- threatened they would do the same if Bezos' meddling found its way to the news side of the operation.

----------------

They're not very smart, are they? If most of the outlets are going that way how and where are they going to find outlets that will let them continue on their merry way of ignoring reality?

Posted by: Decaf at February 28, 2025 06:26 PM (unUNN)

282 Richard Hanania, who is all over the place, watched the full Zelenskyy video. He says everything was fine until Vance piped up... to agree with Trump (that, yeah, it's dumb for the media to insult Putin when everyone's trying to end the conflict). For whatever reason this set Z off. Then Z decided to make threats against the US which, as we saw, ended the discussion.
Hanania thinks the Ukrainians need to unseat Z and replace him with someone competent.

Posted by: gKWVE at February 28, 2025 06:26 PM (gKWVE)

283 Is it proper to call them euroweenies when they cut their dicks off?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Dunno. Eurotwats? Eurotrash?

Posted by: MkY at February 28, 2025 06:25 PM (cPGH3)

Zeroweenies?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 28, 2025 06:26 PM (i24o9)

284 I don't know what happened to Bezos. Back in the day he was a motherfucking hardass.

He should probably call up Elon and find out what kind of testosterone supplements Musk is taking, as Bezos clearly does not have the levels that he once did.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 28, 2025 05:53 PM (W5ArC)

He achieved vast wealth as a shopkeeper. He made the mistake that many wealthy people make in believing that he was smarter than he is. He has, perhaps, come to some terms with the fact that he isn't one of the great minds of history. So now he will spend his time playing with the boobs he bought his girlfriend.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 28, 2025 06:27 PM (ExV1e)

285 Look at history for the last 200 years. The Russians want friends on their western frontier. They already got a giant ogre on their eastern one,.
Posted by: MkY at February 28, 2025 06:23 PM (cPGH3)

Trying to think of a drive of Russians west that wasn't a response to invasions from the west. They got into Paris in 1814.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 28, 2025 06:27 PM (n7h9X)

286 Newland explicitly backed the Azovs because the main army might be too Russian sympathetic. About 25 percent of the pre-war armed forces. Like the SS. They get all the best stuff though they sometimes retreat rather than help the regular army and conscripts.
Posted by: Oldcat at February 28, 2025 06:25 PM (n7h9X)

Putin said, when he talked to Tucker, than one of his goals was to get rid of the Nazis in Ukraine.

If they're retreating, with all the weapons we've given them, it seems we're going to see this rear its ugly head again, after a peace deal is signed.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2025 06:27 PM (lH8E4)

287 Yeah, a few high-level troublemakers got thrown out windows. Would it be such a bad thing if some of the more obnoxious Democrats found themselves defenestrated?

Yes. Yes, that would be a bad thing if we started to murder people for disagreeing with us.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 06:28 PM (2VST1)

288 The day when Putin told Obama that communism didn't work and that he shouldn't go down that path

-

I'd argue it was the precise moment they said they would no longer allow American homosexuals to adopt and abuse little Russian children.

After that the left was ready to start a war with them.

Posted by: Boron Quidquid questions if McConnell survived after having polio at February 28, 2025 06:28 PM (SFVuP)

289 275 Zelensky remains delusional. This interview is not helping him.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 28, 2025 06:25 PM (LkLld)

He should be begging for forgiveness

Posted by: It's me donna at February 28, 2025 06:28 PM (VE6XX)

290 Trying to think of a drive of Russians west that wasn't a response to invasions from the west. They got into Paris in 1814.
Posted by: Oldcat at February 28, 2025 06:27 PM (n7h9X)

Russia has never had enough population to use the natural resources they already have.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2025 06:28 PM (QAkQ3)

291 btw if anyone thinks I'm blaming Vance, I'm not. Vance wouldn't be there unless Trump thought Vance would help.
And maybe Vance did. He turned over a rock and all the bugs in Z's brain wriggled out.

Posted by: gKWVE at February 28, 2025 06:28 PM (gKWVE)

292 Cliff's Notes version of Trump to little z today.

What part of Most Powerful Man in the World don't you understand, Vladimir?

Posted by: Gref at February 28, 2025 06:28 PM (aBgBM)

293 269 259 You know who else's regime collapsed?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2025 06:20 PM (U0o6X)

Blockbuster Video?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 28, 2025 06:21 PM (i24o9)

Pizza Hut?
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2025 06:23 PM (QAkQ3)

Sears, Roebuck and Company?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 28, 2025 06:28 PM (W5ArC)

294 Richard Hanania, who is all over the place, watched the full Zelenskyy video. He says everything was fine until Vance piped up... to agree with Trump (that, yeah, it's dumb for the media to insult Putin when everyone's trying to end the conflict). For whatever reason this set Z off. Then Z decided to make threats against the US which, as we saw, ended the discussion.
Hanania thinks the Ukrainians need to unseat Z and replace him with someone competent.
Posted by: gKWVE at February 28, 2025 06:26 PM (gKWVE)

Vance is set up to be bad cop here, because he's got 8 more years lined up and nobody can 'wait him out'

Posted by: Oldcat at February 28, 2025 06:29 PM (n7h9X)

295 8 minutes of toddler mayhem.

https://tinyurl.com/ca4e4z38 xtwitter

Posted by: 13times at February 28, 2025 06:29 PM (K3B2k)

296 Yes. Yes, that would be a bad thing if we started to murder people for disagreeing with us.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 06:28 PM (2VST1)

How about accidently falling out of a helicopter?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at February 28, 2025 06:30 PM (bA0UI)

297 289 275 Zelensky remains delusional. This interview is not helping him.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 28, 2025 06:25 PM (LkLld)

He should be begging for forgiveness
Posted by: It's me donna at February 28, 2025 06:28 PM (VE6XX)

Mr Zelensky.... please pick up the White Courtesy phone... Call for Mr. Zelensky...

Z: Hello.... yes... what do you mean I've been impeached, I'm on US TV!!!!

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2025 06:30 PM (QAkQ3)

298 I watched a Russian woman on You Tube, when the war first started. She said that, when the Soviet Union collapsed, her family split apart. Some went to St. Petersburg, some to Belarus and some to Ukraine. They all had free travel through those areas. The idea that there were no ties between Russia and Ukraine is false.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 28, 2025 06:30 PM (o5+a9)

299 Yes. Yes, that would be a bad thing if we started to murder people for disagreeing with us.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 06:28 PM (2VST1)

Levoy Finicum, and Ashley Babbit, are not available to comment for some reason.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2025 06:30 PM (QAkQ3)

300 I used to like newspapers, I'd read several a day in school. When I would travel, I'd get the USA today to try to get a grasp on the places I was traveling through. But as they got smaller and more strident and less valuable for news I dumped them.

The local newspaper for city of 100+k residents shrank not just in thickness but size of sheet and now is not even made here. Its all UPI and AP feed, USA Today articles a day later, printed in Portland. I don't think there are even any reporters in town and this is the capitol of the state.

Its just old and dated and they proved themselves worthless long before they were left behind by technology. Why read yesterday's news today when you can watch it happen in real time online?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 06:30 PM (2VST1)

301 He'll have to fight the VP first before the Master will talk to him.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at February 28, 2025 06:31 PM (zXoXa)

302 Trying to think of a drive of Russians west that wasn't a response to invasions from the west. They got into Paris in 1814.
Posted by: Oldcat at February 28, 2025 06:27 PM (n7h9X)

Russia has never had enough population to use the natural resources they already have.
Posted by: Romeo13
_________

I believe Peter the Great started the shit with the Swedes when he thought Charles XII would be a pushover.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 28, 2025 06:31 PM (Dm8we)

303 Trying to think of a drive of Russians west that wasn't a response to invasions from the west. They got into Paris in 1814.
Posted by: Oldcat at February 28, 2025 06:27 PM (n7h9X)

Russia has never had enough population to use the natural resources they already have.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2025 06:28 PM (QAkQ3)

Russia had HUGE populations and armies relative to France, Germany and the like for hundreds of years and still does. The problem was that it took to long to walk to Germany with the long winters and short fighting seasons.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 28, 2025 06:31 PM (n7h9X)

304 Do they still make newspapers?
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2025 05:43 PM (U0o6X)

Gotta wrap the fish with something.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 28, 2025 06:31 PM (8zz6B)

305 Zelensky remains delusional. This interview is not helping him.

Yeah he looks sneering and arrogant in the interview, that's exactly the wrong approach and I bet there are more than a few people in government back home that hate his guts for that exact attitude.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 06:32 PM (2VST1)

306 293 269 259 You know who else's regime collapsed?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2025 06:20 PM (U0o6X)

Blockbuster Video?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 28, 2025 06:21 PM (i24o9)

Pizza Hut?
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2025 06:23 PM (QAkQ3)

Sears, Roebuck and Company?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 28, 2025 06:28 PM (W5ArC)

K Mart? ah.... the ole Blue Light Special!

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2025 06:32 PM (QAkQ3)

307 You know who else's regime collapsed?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 28, 2025 06:20 PM (U0o6X)

Blockbuster Video?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 28, 2025 06:21 PM (i24o9)

Pizza Hut?
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2025 06:23 PM (QAkQ3)

Sears, Roebuck and Company?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 28, 2025 06:28 PM (W5ArC)

K Mart? ah.... the ole Blue Light Special!

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2025 06:32 PM (QAkQ3)

The former empire of Great Britain?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 28, 2025 06:33 PM (i24o9)

308 good Lord, Russia knows its neighbors so well...

Posted by: runner at February 28, 2025 06:33 PM (g47mK)

309 They chose poorly. Russia has a claim to wanting to take action but invasion should have been wayyyy down the list. But just like Ukraine before and Georgia, Russia uses that as their first choice to just seize land.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 05:58 PM (2VST1)

So we ignore the fact that Russia tried to negotiate with the Ukrainian government put in place by the US IC and got rebuffed. Russia tried to negotiate with NATO and got rebuffed. Russia has tried, time and again, since the fall of the USSR to join the west and NATO and been rebuffed.

But sure, they were just itching to seize land. Putin is such an enormous thug, itching to seize land, that he's done it exactly twice during the 20+ years of his rule of Russia and, in both case, due to NATO provocation.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 28, 2025 06:33 PM (ExV1e)

310 Nood

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 28, 2025 06:33 PM (i24o9)

311 I believe Peter the Great started the shit with the Swedes when he thought Charles XII would be a pushover.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 28, 2025 06:31 PM (Dm8we)

Lil Chucky never let anyone beat him to the punch, ever. Dude was a maniac. Duke of Marlborough was glad to get him running east instead of toward him while he was fighting France.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 28, 2025 06:33 PM (n7h9X)

312 But sure, they were just itching to seize land. Putin is such an enormous thug, itching to seize land, that he's done it exactly twice during the 20+ years of his rule of Russia

Three times in 12 years. You forget Georgia? And Ukraine previously?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 06:34 PM (2VST1)

313 I'd argue it was the precise moment they said they would no longer allow American homosexuals to adopt and abuse little Russian children.

After that the left was ready to start a war with them.
Posted by: Boron Quidquid

Rush pointed this out many years ago. It was a frigging 180. We've been gaslit about Russia for many, many years.
Guess I've read too many great Russian authors, but they are a sympathetic civilization.
As was Britain, as is Spain, as are many.
NOT a single Islamic country has contributed anything to this earth except death and destruction.
Want peace on earth>
Exterminate Musselmen and their kith and kin.

Posted by: MkY at February 28, 2025 06:34 PM (cPGH3)

314 But sure, they were just itching to seize land. Putin is such an enormous thug, itching to seize land, that he's done it exactly twice during the 20+ years of his rule of Russia and, in both case, due to NATO provocation.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 28, 2025 06:33 PM (ExV1e)

The one thing Russia hasn't needed for a while is land.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 28, 2025 06:34 PM (n7h9X)

315 Cillian
@CilComLFC

🇺🇦 BREAKING: Ukrainian MP Oleksandr Dubinsky just called for an Emergency Session of Ukraine’s Parliament to initiate IMPEACHMENT Proceedings against President Zelensky after the Oval Office shouting match.

This is HUGE. Zelensky’s Regime is collapsing in real time.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at February 28, 2025 06:07 PM (TGPs7)

________________________________

I'm pretty sure Dubinsky is currently sitting in prison on treason charges. As I recall his political position is pro-Russia...so Zelenskyy just tossed him in the slammer. I can't remember whether that was before or after Zelenskyy outlawed all opposition political parties.

Posted by: Orson at February 28, 2025 06:34 PM (dIske)

316 Russia had HUGE populations and armies relative to France, Germany and the like for hundreds of years and still does. The problem was that it took to long to walk to Germany with the long winters and short fighting seasons.
Posted by: Oldcat at February 28, 2025 06:31 PM (n7h9X)

Now look at Europe Population per square mile, compared to Russian Population per square mile.

Yes, parts of Russia were fairly well populated, but the did, and still do, have unexploited resources and Frontier.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2025 06:34 PM (QAkQ3)

317 I don't think PDT likes Zelinski very much. That guy is going to get a dose of the TRUMP!!! curse.

Posted by: fd at February 28, 2025 06:34 PM (vFG9F)

318 It's me donna: "And the Euroweenie Countries are all taking his side as we knew they would."

I'm wondering how all this support materializes? Are they going to send troops? Ammunition to the point of compromising their own security? Military hardware that is adequate and sufficient to match or exceed Russia's in capabilities and number? Secret space tech no one has seen because it has been so valuable? A pile of cash so large that it would give Putin a heart attack?

Because a strongly worded letter and some nationalist glitter isn't going to move many front lines.

These are Underpants Gnome thinkers.
Step 1: Stand and write speeches
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Russian surrender

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 28, 2025 06:34 PM (aXxgO)

319 And the MST3k classic Final Justice, starring Joe Don Baker, was filmed there.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba

You go ahead on.

Posted by: Sweat Stain Baker at February 28, 2025 06:36 PM (4DY5T)

320 Three times in 12 years. You forget Georgia? And Ukraine previously?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 06:34 PM (2VST1)

Georgia was a NATO coup with USAID money. So was the Maidan Coup, where the Ukrainians burned ethnic Russians alive.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 28, 2025 06:36 PM (n7h9X)

321 312 But sure, they were just itching to seize land. Putin is such an enormous thug, itching to seize land, that he's done it exactly twice during the 20+ years of his rule of Russia

Three times in 12 years. You forget Georgia? And Ukraine previously?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 06:34 PM (2VST1)

And how many countries have we invaded in the interest of 'defense'...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2025 06:36 PM (QAkQ3)

322 "Russia has a claim to wanting to take action but invasion should have been wayyyy down the list. "

It got to the End Game. It had built up to the USA (Jake Sullivan) not publicly saying that Ukraine would not join NATO but instead pressing forward with its admission. If Ukraine were allowed into NATO then Putin saw that his only future moves for Deep State shenaningans putting him into check would be limited to taking it up the ass or starting WWIII. We forced his only logical positive move.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 28, 2025 06:36 PM (Gqoy+)

323 317 I don't think PDT likes Zelinski very much. That guy is going to get a dose of the TRUMP!!! curse.
Posted by: fd at February 28, 2025 06:34 PM (vFG9F)

Trump is old School... you dress nice to show respect for the people and places you are dealing with.

Showing up in a track suit, shows your disdain...

It would be like going to church in your Pajamas...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2025 06:38 PM (QAkQ3)

324 Remember that poor young girl whose suicide the MFM blamed on bullying about being deported?

She had told friends that she was being molested by a relative.

Yeah, its a wonder why the MFM is dead.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 28, 2025 05:56 PM (i24o9)

raimondo had a relative? Who knew?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 28, 2025 06:39 PM (8zz6B)

325 Yeah, that's why I find it so bizarre that the left is so in love with Ukraine. Dude. They literally have Nazis in their army. The nation has long been Nazi sympathetic. They're supposedly your worst enemies.
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But they're not Conservative Nazis.
The kind that oppose Democrats.
Those are BAD.

They're Regular Nazis.
The kind that hate Jews.
Those are GOOD.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 28, 2025 06:39 PM (uLKZx)

326 Biden administration screwed up Nagorno Karabakh. They invited the Armenians on maneuvers and the Russians said ok no more protection for you. The Azeris ethnically cleansed the place

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 28, 2025 06:39 PM (EG7Bp)

327 I'm wondering how all this support materializes? Are they going to send troops? Ammunition to the point of compromising their own security? Military hardware that is adequate and sufficient to match or exceed Russia's in capabilities and number? Secret space tech no one has seen because it has been so valuable? A pile of cash so large that it would give Putin a heart attack?

no - they have no troops and tanks to send. Those they did send were destroyed in short order. Two units had to be combined because their tanks and apcs were destroyed in one attack.

Ammo? no. EU had a project to match Russia's current production going but it failed - they could not reach it ever. America thinks they could reach it in a few years.

No space tech.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 28, 2025 06:40 PM (n7h9X)

328 You go ahead on.
Posted by: Sweat Stain

Everybody's burping at me
I can't smell a thing they're eating

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 28, 2025 06:40 PM (Dm8we)

329 White House says President Trump has no interest in restarting talks about minerals or anything else at this point.

Per Fox News.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at February 28, 2025 06:41 PM (paSBy)

330 K Mart? ah.... the ole Blue Light Special!

Sigh. That was a sad day for me.

Posted by: Sandra Flook at February 28, 2025 06:41 PM (mH6SG)

331 Ace, you forgot the 4th reason a billionaire might pour money into a failure: tax write-off.

Posted by: GWB at February 28, 2025 06:42 PM (zy/h8)

332 I'm pretty sure Dubinsky is currently sitting in prison on treason charges. As I recall his political position is pro-Russia...so Zelenskyy just tossed him in the slammer. I can't remember whether that was before or after Zelenskyy outlawed all opposition political parties.
Posted by: Orson at February 28, 2025 06:34 PM (dIske)

Shutting down the oppo parties was pretty early in the SMO, a month or so in IIRC. Patriotic Unity and all that.

Dubinsky apparently was arrested in 2023 after the Grand NATO offensive fell to bits in a matter of days but went on in WWI style for months in addition.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 28, 2025 06:45 PM (n7h9X)

333 Three times in 12 years. You forget Georgia? And Ukraine previously?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2025 06:34 PM (2VST1)

And how many countries have we invaded in the interest of 'defense'...
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 28, 2025 06:36 PM (QAkQ3)

And Georgia wasn't incorporated into Russia. Crimea was, because it is their only port of any size. And 90 percent Russian.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 28, 2025 06:47 PM (n7h9X)

334 Marty Baron is a leftwing asshat. Redolent of privilege. The epitome of the 'trahison des clercs.'

(Sorry, you have to read the above in Tom Hanks' fake redneck accent...)

Posted by: Beverly at February 28, 2025 06:50 PM (Epeb0)

335 Otisburg? OTISBURG?!

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at March 01, 2025 08:25 AM (yK3GP)

336 The Washington Post is a JOKE? With Robert Redford? Dustin Hoffman, and Jason Robards? The nerve of you sir! The sheer, impertinent nerve!

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at March 01, 2025 08:37 AM (yK3GP)

337 The Netherlands is entirely free to defend Ukraine. Let us know how that deployment to Russia works out.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at March 01, 2025 08:45 AM (yK3GP)

338 For sale; full can of 5.56 NATO ball. All reasonable offers considered. Fair condition.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at March 01, 2025 08:49 AM (yK3GP)

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