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Judge Refuses to Block DOGE From Auditing the Department of Education
Happy Tuesday!
Finally a non-Hawaiian judge for a change.DOGE discovered that $4.7 TRILLION of Treasury payments lack any kind of notation for what the payment is actually for, making them almost impossible to trace and verify. Any system which makes it impossible to detect fraud has been set up precisely to enable fraud.
A federal judge has denied a request to prevent Elon Musk's team from accessing Education Department data, ruling that plaintiffs failed to demonstrate any illegal dissemination of sensitive student information. Key Details: Judge Randolph D. Moss found no concrete evidence that the Education Department or Musk's team had misused or improperly shared student data. The lawsuit, filed by the University of California Student Association, sought an emergency restraining order, citing privacy concerns. The judge acknowledged transparency concerns but noted that Musk's team had been granted access under a recent executive order from President Trump. Diving Deeper: A federal district court judge in Washington has rejected an effort to bar associates of Elon Musk from accessing the U.S. Department of Education's data systems, concluding that the students who sued had not demonstrated any immediate or irreparable harm. Judge Randolph D. Moss ruled that the University of California Student Association, which filed the lawsuit, had failed to show that sensitive student data had been illegally disseminated. In his order, he described the plaintiffs' claims as "entirely conjectural," stating that there was no substantial evidence that Musk's team or the Education Department intended to misuse or distribute the information improperly.
The Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), established under President Donald Trump, has discovered that nearly $4.7 trillion in U.S. Treasury payments were processed with an optional, often blank identification code--making them nearly impossible to track. The revelation has prompted immediate changes to federal financial reporting, mandating full transparency on these transactions moving forward. Key Details: DOGE found that the Treasury Access Symbol (TAS), a key financial identifier, was frequently left blank in transactions totaling $4.7 trillion. The Trump administration's watchdog agency worked with the U.S. Treasury to close this loophole, making the TAS field mandatory for all federal payments. DOGE continues to uncover and eliminate government waste, already reporting an estimated $55 billion in taxpayer savings through spending cuts and contract renegotiations. Diving Deeper: The Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), spearheaded by Elon Musk under President Donald Trump's administration, has made a bombshell discovery regarding federal spending. According to the agency, $4.7 trillion in payments were funneled through the U.S. Treasury without clear tracking due to an often-missing Treasury Access Symbol (TAS). This identifier, which links government expenditures to specific budget items, was optional in the federal system--resulting in payments that were nearly impossible to trace. DOGE announced the finding on X, explaining that the TAS field has now been made mandatory for all federal payments. "As of Saturday, this is now a required field, increasing insight into where money is actually going," the agency stated. This change is expected to bring a new level of transparency to federal finances, ensuring that taxpayer dollars are properly accounted for.The acting commissioner of the Social Security Administration decided to resign rather than to permit the president's appointed man to look into their books.
The resignation of SSA's acting commissioner, Michelle King highlights the growing tension between career federal bureaucrats and the Trump administration's aggressive push to root out government fraud. King stepped down over the weekend following a dispute with DOGE, the cost-cutting initiative led by Elon Musk that has been embedded in various federal agencies, including SSA. DOGE staffers reportedly sought access to SSA's extensive database, which contains work histories, banking details, and medical records of millions of Americans. While DOGE has been conducting similar probes at the Treasury Department, King's abrupt departure signals potential resistance within SSA to oversight efforts aimed at identifying fraud and inefficiencies.Good.
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 18, 2025 12:16 PM (Zz0t1)
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Morning Ace.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 12:16 PM (ExV1e)
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Good. Nuke em till they glow and shoot em in the dark.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 18, 2025 12:17 PM (Zz0t1)
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Stopped to read the post.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 18, 2025 12:17 PM (Rcnd3)
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1 FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 18, 2025 12:16 PM (Zz0t1)
That's just not right.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 18, 2025 12:16 PM (Zz0t1)
That's just not right.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 12:17 PM (ExV1e)
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Figuratively speaking, of course.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 18, 2025 12:17 PM (Zz0t1)
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That's just not right.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 12:17 PM (ExV1e)
And I just got back to my desk.
That's just not right.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 12:17 PM (ExV1e)
And I just got back to my desk.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 18, 2025 12:17 PM (Zz0t1)
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Timing is EVERYTHING.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 18, 2025 12:18 PM (Zz0t1)
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I don't think there's been a single injunction against DOGE yet filed.
It's all TROs that don't need any backing of caselaw.
The time is running out for the latest of those to have any force at all.
And Trump is maliciously complying because the TROs amount to: "Elon Musk is enjoined from doing illegal things."
It's all TROs that don't need any backing of caselaw.
The time is running out for the latest of those to have any force at all.
And Trump is maliciously complying because the TROs amount to: "Elon Musk is enjoined from doing illegal things."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 12:18 PM (GBKbO)
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Why would the DOE have personal student information?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 18, 2025 12:18 PM (XV/Pl)
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>>>The acting commissioner of the Social Security Administration decided to resign rather than to permit the president's appointed man to look into their books.
Fire them all, until you get to someone willing to obey the President's orders. Let's find out how deep the rot goes.
Fire them all, until you get to someone willing to obey the President's orders. Let's find out how deep the rot goes.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 18, 2025 12:18 PM (lHPJf)
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"The acting commissioner of the Social Security Administration decided to resign rather than to permit the president's appointed man to look into their books."
I have a feeling that we are going to find out very soon that social security is not as healthy as they have been claiming it was and it rife with fraud.
I have a feeling that we are going to find out very soon that social security is not as healthy as they have been claiming it was and it rife with fraud.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 18, 2025 12:18 PM (Rcnd3)
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Good Mornin' Ace
Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2025 12:18 PM (oa1NA)
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Auto worker in Georgia at the Hyundai electric car plant
He’s reporting ICE just showed up and HUNDREDS of illegal workers ran away. Hyundai is employing HUNDREDS OF ILLEGAL WORKERS at their plants
He says “80-90%” of the group he works with are illegal Venezuelans
“They are making electric cars. Today immigration came and hundreds of people left running, jumping fences”
“Who do not have documents, who do not have legal status in America”
He’s reporting ICE just showed up and HUNDREDS of illegal workers ran away. Hyundai is employing HUNDREDS OF ILLEGAL WORKERS at their plants
He says “80-90%” of the group he works with are illegal Venezuelans
“They are making electric cars. Today immigration came and hundreds of people left running, jumping fences”
“Who do not have documents, who do not have legal status in America”
Posted by: SMOD at February 18, 2025 12:18 PM (RHGPo)
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AUDIT EVERYONE!!!!
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at February 18, 2025 12:18 PM (WIRXc)
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DOGE discovered that $4.7 TRILLION of Treasury payments lack any kind of notation for what the payment is actually for, making them almost impossible to trace and verify.
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Someone tell the Republican Congress in 2017.
They'll do something about it, right?
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Someone tell the Republican Congress in 2017.
They'll do something about it, right?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 12:19 PM (GBKbO)
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DOGE found that the Treasury Access Symbol (TAS), a key financial identifier, was frequently left blank in transactions totaling $4.7 trillion.
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Assuming they played the trick of not using round numbers, there ought to be records as to which bank and account number these payments went to.
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Assuming they played the trick of not using round numbers, there ought to be records as to which bank and account number these payments went to.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 18, 2025 12:19 PM (lTGtQ)
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The acting commissioner of the Social Security Administration decided to resign rather than to permit the president's appointed man to look into their books.
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Oh, I bet it was more along the lines of, "There's criminal activity in the maintenance of the SSA under your watch. You can cooperate, resign and keep your pension, or get fired without your pension."
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Oh, I bet it was more along the lines of, "There's criminal activity in the maintenance of the SSA under your watch. You can cooperate, resign and keep your pension, or get fired without your pension."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 12:19 PM (GBKbO)
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Hi Ace
Trump has appealed the blocking of his firing of the head of the Soecial Counsel's office to the Supremes. I read so,where that they have called for responses by tomorrow. Anyone else seen this?
Trump has appealed the blocking of his firing of the head of the Soecial Counsel's office to the Supremes. I read so,where that they have called for responses by tomorrow. Anyone else seen this?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 18, 2025 12:19 PM (t/2Uw)
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The resignee, King; should have about 30% public support...the fucking dead enders.
Posted by: puhleaze at February 18, 2025 12:20 PM (bbuBP)
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Unless I missed it, it wasn't clear over how long a period the $4.7T was misspent. Does anyone know?
Posted by: Archimedes at February 18, 2025 12:20 PM (xCA6C)
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Morning, Sharon! How you are you doing? How is the hip?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 18, 2025 12:20 PM (tT6L1)
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If the DoE (or any other federal bureacracy) has nothing to hide, then they shouldn't be worried, right?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 18, 2025 12:20 PM (N39Ws)
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>>The resignation of SSA's acting commissioner, Michelle King highlights the growing tension between career federal bureaucrats and the Trump administration's aggressive push to root out government fraud. King stepped down over the weekend following a dispute with DOGE, the cost-cutting initiative led by Elon Musk that has been embedded in various federal agencies, including SSA.
She should be in a Holding Cell until DOGE fisks the books at SSA.
She should be in a Holding Cell until DOGE fisks the books at SSA.
Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2025 12:20 PM (oa1NA)
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Auto worker in Georgia at the Hyundai electric car plant
He’s reporting ICE just showed up and HUNDREDS of illegal workers ran away. Hyundai is employing HUNDREDS OF ILLEGAL WORKERS at their plants
He says “80-90%” of the group he works with are illegal Venezuelans
“They are making electric cars. Today immigration came and hundreds of people left running, jumping fences”
“Who do not have documents, who do not have legal status in America”
Posted by: SMOD at February 18, 2025 12:18 PM
I was told they were just picking crops and other work Americans just won't do.
He’s reporting ICE just showed up and HUNDREDS of illegal workers ran away. Hyundai is employing HUNDREDS OF ILLEGAL WORKERS at their plants
He says “80-90%” of the group he works with are illegal Venezuelans
“They are making electric cars. Today immigration came and hundreds of people left running, jumping fences”
“Who do not have documents, who do not have legal status in America”
Posted by: SMOD at February 18, 2025 12:18 PM
I was told they were just picking crops and other work Americans just won't do.
Posted by: Josephistan at February 18, 2025 12:21 PM (y9ksN)
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DOGE discovered that $4.7 TRILLION of Treasury payments lack any kind of notation for what the payment is actually for...
C'mon, Ace, what are you complaining about? $4.7 trillion is hardly anything, just pocket change. Get back to me when you find some real fraud.
C'mon, Ace, what are you complaining about? $4.7 trillion is hardly anything, just pocket change. Get back to me when you find some real fraud.
Posted by: zombie at February 18, 2025 12:21 PM (pMi6S)
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Good afternoon Ace.
Judge Moss was appointed by Obama. He actually looked at the facts and not the hysteria or ideology. Will wonders never cease
Judge Moss was appointed by Obama. He actually looked at the facts and not the hysteria or ideology. Will wonders never cease
Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 18, 2025 12:21 PM (KXtU1)
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4.7 T but doesn't say over what period of time. That is essential information.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at February 18, 2025 12:21 PM (w6EFb)
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We’ve known for decades about the. WasteFraudandAbuse that every GOP candidate promised to end. George Bush Sr. Lost an election because Ross Perot wanted to look under the hood, and millions of Americans agreed with him.
To see the evidence in real time…and remedies being applied…is breathtakingly thrilling.
This administration is a Gamechanger, bigly.
To see the evidence in real time…and remedies being applied…is breathtakingly thrilling.
This administration is a Gamechanger, bigly.
Posted by: kallisto at February 18, 2025 12:21 PM (+B8yt)
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To put this in perspective, $4.7Trillion is enough for you to take your entire family to get frozen yogurt and all of you can put any toppings you want on it.
Posted by: Sifty Boones at February 18, 2025 12:22 PM (1tif4)
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MOAR.
No, seriously, more. $1B a day in cuts isn't enough. It will be over 2.5 YEARS to cut a $1T at that rate and we need to cut $2T just to stop the bleeding.
No, seriously, more. $1B a day in cuts isn't enough. It will be over 2.5 YEARS to cut a $1T at that rate and we need to cut $2T just to stop the bleeding.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 18, 2025 12:22 PM (N1tpc)
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I like the fact that apparently these people who are resigning are producing the desired outcome of DOGE, its like self licking ice cream cone.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 18, 2025 12:22 PM (XV/Pl)
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19 Hi Ace
Trump has appealed the blocking of his firing of the head of the Soecial Counsel's office to the Supremes. I read so,where that they have called for responses by tomorrow. Anyone else seen this?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 18, 2025 12:19 PM (t/2Uw)
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Specifically challenging Humphrey's Executor v US, which the TRO specifically cited.
Trump's DOJ announced to SOCTUS a week ago that they were aiming to challenge and get overturned the decision.
It essentially established the "independence" of the FCC. The ruling on it expanded over time to include other agencies, but it's been culled back by SCOTUS steadily over the last few years.
The judge essentially just opened the door for the direct challenge because the judge is either a fucking idiot or a mole. I'm betting on the former.
Trump has appealed the blocking of his firing of the head of the Soecial Counsel's office to the Supremes. I read so,where that they have called for responses by tomorrow. Anyone else seen this?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 18, 2025 12:19 PM (t/2Uw)
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Specifically challenging Humphrey's Executor v US, which the TRO specifically cited.
Trump's DOJ announced to SOCTUS a week ago that they were aiming to challenge and get overturned the decision.
It essentially established the "independence" of the FCC. The ruling on it expanded over time to include other agencies, but it's been culled back by SCOTUS steadily over the last few years.
The judge essentially just opened the door for the direct challenge because the judge is either a fucking idiot or a mole. I'm betting on the former.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 12:22 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 18, 2025 12:22 PM (W5ArC)
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The resignation of SSA's acting commissioner, Michelle King highlights the growing tension between career federal bureaucrats and the Trump administration's aggressive push to root out government fraud.
This is like saying the growing tension between an iceberg and the Titanic, except the iceberg didn't have a mandate, it just does what icebergs do.
This is like saying the growing tension between an iceberg and the Titanic, except the iceberg didn't have a mandate, it just does what icebergs do.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 18, 2025 12:22 PM (xCA6C)
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Resignation rather than face audit. Wake me when ritual Hari Kari starts. TV, or at least YouTube, please.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 18, 2025 12:22 PM (gm9Sb)
Posted by: Engelbert Humperdink at February 18, 2025 12:22 PM (NAF5O)
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>>4.7 T but doesn't say over what period of time. That is essential information.
Google, 'How Much Time is 4.7 Trillion Seconds'...
It really doesn't matter. That's an INSANE figure.
Google, 'How Much Time is 4.7 Trillion Seconds'...
It really doesn't matter. That's an INSANE figure.
Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2025 12:23 PM (oa1NA)
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The acting commissioner of the Social Security Administration decided to resign rather than to permit the president's appointed man to look into their books.
Fire them all, until you get to someone willing to obey the President's orders. Let's find out how deep the rot goes.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 18, 2025 12:18 PM
This, so much this. times a jillionity.
Fire them all, until you get to someone willing to obey the President's orders. Let's find out how deep the rot goes.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 18, 2025 12:18 PM
This, so much this. times a jillionity.
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 18, 2025 12:23 PM (ewjUl)
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>>>Auto worker in Georgia at the Hyundai electric car plant
He’s reporting ICE just showed up and HUNDREDS of illegal workers ran away. Hyundai is employing HUNDREDS OF ILLEGAL WORKERS at their plants
He says “80-90%” of the group he works with are illegal Venezuelans
At this point, I don't even care so much that they ran away. I want all the corrupt employers exposed. Let's find out who's been hiring all these illegals. Then start prosecuting them.
He’s reporting ICE just showed up and HUNDREDS of illegal workers ran away. Hyundai is employing HUNDREDS OF ILLEGAL WORKERS at their plants
He says “80-90%” of the group he works with are illegal Venezuelans
At this point, I don't even care so much that they ran away. I want all the corrupt employers exposed. Let's find out who's been hiring all these illegals. Then start prosecuting them.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 18, 2025 12:23 PM (lHPJf)
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DOGE found that the Treasury Access Symbol (TAS), a key financial identifier, was frequently left blank in transactions totaling $4.7 trillion.
but the IRS will crawl up your ass over your venmo payments
but the IRS will crawl up your ass over your venmo payments
Posted by: brak at February 18, 2025 12:24 PM (jGJov)
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"Michelle King, a career federal worker who had been with SSA since 1994, quit over the DOGE disagreement Saturday"
Gee, I never would have expected this! 30 years as a useless hirudinean layabout.
I also looked up what King looks like, so you guys don't have to. She looks exactly like you think she does: next to "White Harpy Harridan Karen" in the dictionary is her picture.
Gee, I never would have expected this! 30 years as a useless hirudinean layabout.
I also looked up what King looks like, so you guys don't have to. She looks exactly like you think she does: next to "White Harpy Harridan Karen" in the dictionary is her picture.
Posted by: Elric Blade at February 18, 2025 12:24 PM (iFTx/)
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A federal judge has denied a request to prevent Elon Musk's team from accessing Education Department data, ruling that plaintiffs failed to demonstrate any illegal dissemination of sensitive student information.
I honestly think some SCOTUS clerks have back channeled their district counterparts and told them to tell their bosses to stand down and to not overstep their authority before SCOTUS has to publicly humiliate them.
I honestly think some SCOTUS clerks have back channeled their district counterparts and told them to tell their bosses to stand down and to not overstep their authority before SCOTUS has to publicly humiliate them.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 12:24 PM (jfdO+)
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When does DoGE audit the IRS?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 18, 2025 12:24 PM (Q4IgG)
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Good afternoon Ace and everyone
Hopefully all these lawfare cases will get tossed out
But will the Supreme Court do what's right? Because sooner or later they will get dragged into court to sort it out
Hopefully all these lawfare cases will get tossed out
But will the Supreme Court do what's right? Because sooner or later they will get dragged into court to sort it out
Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2025 12:24 PM (fwDg9)
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I bet the landscaping at the Hyundai plant is really amazing.
Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2025 12:24 PM (iu4Pw)
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The acting commissioner of the Social Security Administration decided to resign rather than to permit the president's appointed man to look into their books.
not certain i understand how a resignation would stop doge from looking into their books. the most it would do is change *whose* books are being looked into, but the books themselves wouldn't change; they would just belong to resignation boy's successor.
not certain i understand how a resignation would stop doge from looking into their books. the most it would do is change *whose* books are being looked into, but the books themselves wouldn't change; they would just belong to resignation boy's successor.
Posted by: anachronda at February 18, 2025 12:24 PM (oY6Yp)
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>>To put this in perspective, $4.7Trillion is enough for you to take your entire family to get frozen yogurt and all of you can put any toppings you want on it.
...or, 4 Dozen Eggs in California.
...or, 4 Dozen Eggs in California.
Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2025 12:24 PM (oa1NA)
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31 MOAR.
No, seriously, more. $1B a day in cuts isn't enough. It will be over 2.5 YEARS to cut a $1T at that rate and we need to cut $2T just to stop the bleeding.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 18, 2025 12:22 PM (N1tpc)
The only way to cut anything above $1T is to find fraud, waste, and abuse in entitlements...or to cut them...
So, right now, $1B a day is fine pending figuring out if the money is there on entitlement FWA or not...b/c if it's not, then hard questions get asked...although maybe with tariff revenues now coming in, they can be avoided longer...
No, seriously, more. $1B a day in cuts isn't enough. It will be over 2.5 YEARS to cut a $1T at that rate and we need to cut $2T just to stop the bleeding.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 18, 2025 12:22 PM (N1tpc)
The only way to cut anything above $1T is to find fraud, waste, and abuse in entitlements...or to cut them...
So, right now, $1B a day is fine pending figuring out if the money is there on entitlement FWA or not...b/c if it's not, then hard questions get asked...although maybe with tariff revenues now coming in, they can be avoided longer...
Posted by: Nova Local at February 18, 2025 12:24 PM (exHjb)
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@25
>>I was told they were just picking crops and other work Americans just won't do.
Yep, picking strawberries, washing toilets and stamping out door panels and installing pre-assembled parts made in Mexico.
As some Uniparty stooge opined, America is best viewed as an economic zone rather than a country.
>>I was told they were just picking crops and other work Americans just won't do.
Yep, picking strawberries, washing toilets and stamping out door panels and installing pre-assembled parts made in Mexico.
As some Uniparty stooge opined, America is best viewed as an economic zone rather than a country.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 18, 2025 12:25 PM (XV/Pl)
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These bureaucrats control ALL of our money -- the entire United States revenue, 100% of all taxpayer funds, totally trillions of dollars every year -- and they refuse t let us see hat they're doing with it.
Helicopters would be too kind.
Helicopters would be too kind.
Posted by: zombie at February 18, 2025 12:25 PM (pMi6S)
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What are they hiding at the Dept of Education? They seem to be fighting tooth and claw to keep people from knowing what's going on there. Why? Is it just because Trump wants to shut it down? Or is that possibly a cornerstone of the grifting palace? What is this hysteria about?
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at February 18, 2025 12:25 PM (4XwPj)
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>>4.7 T but doesn't say over what period of time. That is essential information.
Google, 'How Much Time is 4.7 Trillion Seconds'...
It really doesn't matter. That's an INSANE figure.
Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2025 12:23 PM (oa1NA)
A billion here, and a billion there....
Google, 'How Much Time is 4.7 Trillion Seconds'...
It really doesn't matter. That's an INSANE figure.
Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2025 12:23 PM (oa1NA)
A billion here, and a billion there....
Posted by: Dr. T at February 18, 2025 12:25 PM (lHPJf)
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9 I don't think there's been a single injunction against DOGE yet filed.
It's all TROs that don't need any backing of caselaw.
The time is running out for the latest of those to have any force at all.
And Trump is maliciously complying because the TROs amount to: "Elon Musk is enjoined from doing illegal things."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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The fed judges issuing the TROs right and left were doing so to prevent appeal. But it is likely to bestir appellate courts as TROs lack appellate review because they are intended as a very short term remedy followed promptly by a full hearing. The ex parte tro was the most egregious from one of the Hawaiian judges. That is where ags from blue states got together in a late night session alone with the judge with absolutely no input from the Trump administration legal team.
There is also serious standing issues from a lot of these 'plaintiffs' being able to directly show irreparable damage from DOGE (executive) actions that they seek to have enjoined.
Those TROs are also defective in that the plaintiffs must not only show irreparable immediate harm but the likelihood of winning at trial which is debateable in most cases.
It's all TROs that don't need any backing of caselaw.
The time is running out for the latest of those to have any force at all.
And Trump is maliciously complying because the TROs amount to: "Elon Musk is enjoined from doing illegal things."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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The fed judges issuing the TROs right and left were doing so to prevent appeal. But it is likely to bestir appellate courts as TROs lack appellate review because they are intended as a very short term remedy followed promptly by a full hearing. The ex parte tro was the most egregious from one of the Hawaiian judges. That is where ags from blue states got together in a late night session alone with the judge with absolutely no input from the Trump administration legal team.
There is also serious standing issues from a lot of these 'plaintiffs' being able to directly show irreparable damage from DOGE (executive) actions that they seek to have enjoined.
Those TROs are also defective in that the plaintiffs must not only show irreparable immediate harm but the likelihood of winning at trial which is debateable in most cases.
Posted by: whig at February 18, 2025 12:25 PM (ctrM5)
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If I were a Congressman, I’d have some fun with the media and introduce legislation to exempt any publicly traded company with revenues less than that of the federal government from having to file any audited financial statements with the SEC.
Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at February 18, 2025 12:25 PM (Tx4ld)
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Career Federal Worker is right up there with Serial Peder4ast or Circus Geek in my estimation.
Posted by: Sifty Boones at February 18, 2025 12:25 PM (1tif4)
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I looked up Michelle King and she's been a government bureaucrat her whole life.
And its funny, I was looking in LinkedIn and it found two news stories mentioning her:
1) Michelle King is a hero because she wouldn't like the evil Elon Musk access SSA data
2) Michelle King was fired because DOGE found millions of bogus SSA records
And...this is kind of how this is ALL breaking down isn't it? The left claims these bureaucrats are heros for opposing Trump/Musk but they get fired or quit because they did a catastrophically bad job at maintaining quality data on how their org was functioning.
And to be clear if any of these people did this shit in the private sector they'd be looking at Enron level press coverage and personal prosecutions.
And its funny, I was looking in LinkedIn and it found two news stories mentioning her:
1) Michelle King is a hero because she wouldn't like the evil Elon Musk access SSA data
2) Michelle King was fired because DOGE found millions of bogus SSA records
And...this is kind of how this is ALL breaking down isn't it? The left claims these bureaucrats are heros for opposing Trump/Musk but they get fired or quit because they did a catastrophically bad job at maintaining quality data on how their org was functioning.
And to be clear if any of these people did this shit in the private sector they'd be looking at Enron level press coverage and personal prosecutions.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 12:25 PM (t0Rmr)
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Gee, I never would have expected this! 30 years as a useless hirudinean layabout.
Awesome, a new word!
Awesome, a new word!
Posted by: Archimedes at February 18, 2025 12:25 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: puhleaze at February 18, 2025 12:25 PM (bbuBP)
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43 I honestly think some SCOTUS clerks have back channeled their district counterparts and told them to tell their bosses to stand down and to not overstep their authority before SCOTUS has to publicly humiliate them.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 12:24 PM (jfdO+)
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None of these people want their ability to force nationwide injunctions to end. It's their largest source of power on the lower courts.
And Trump is making it extremely obvious, through his Solicitor General, that they want the practice to end.
And Thomas on SCOTUS has been gaining allies over the past few years, including Roberts, on ending the practice completely.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 12:24 PM (jfdO+)
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None of these people want their ability to force nationwide injunctions to end. It's their largest source of power on the lower courts.
And Trump is making it extremely obvious, through his Solicitor General, that they want the practice to end.
And Thomas on SCOTUS has been gaining allies over the past few years, including Roberts, on ending the practice completely.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 12:25 PM (GBKbO)
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> I want all the corrupt employers exposed. Let's find out who's been hiring all these illegals. Then start prosecuting them.
A few public floggings, pour encourager les autres, would be in order, I think.
A few public floggings, pour encourager les autres, would be in order, I think.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 18, 2025 12:25 PM (W5ArC)
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4.7 T but doesn't say over what period of time. That is essential information.
Posted by: Miley
SSA established 1935, so 90 years of this.
4.7 T averaged over 90 years is 52.2 billion per year.
This is your average yearly fraud, a convenient starting point for discussion.
Posted by: Miley
SSA established 1935, so 90 years of this.
4.7 T averaged over 90 years is 52.2 billion per year.
This is your average yearly fraud, a convenient starting point for discussion.
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at February 18, 2025 12:25 PM (w9Wax)
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... potential resistance within SSA to oversight efforts aimed at identifying fraud and inefficiencies.
Resistance indicates either:
- you are a partisan political operative willing to harm the country to advance your party's interests in which case you should be immediately fired.
or:
- you would have criminal activity exposed in which case you should be immediately fired, investigated, prosecuted, and jailed.
Resistance indicates either:
- you are a partisan political operative willing to harm the country to advance your party's interests in which case you should be immediately fired.
or:
- you would have criminal activity exposed in which case you should be immediately fired, investigated, prosecuted, and jailed.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 12:26 PM (ExV1e)
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Hi Blake
Still limping but not as much pain. Had to,fire a dentist yesterday for being totally incompetent. I need a release from a dentist to schedule my surgery. It seems they are all money grubbing con artists trying to extract every dollar possible. (Anyone who might be here excluded). I just want to get this done so I can stil get to Texas in October.
Still limping but not as much pain. Had to,fire a dentist yesterday for being totally incompetent. I need a release from a dentist to schedule my surgery. It seems they are all money grubbing con artists trying to extract every dollar possible. (Anyone who might be here excluded). I just want to get this done so I can stil get to Texas in October.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 18, 2025 12:26 PM (t/2Uw)
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Maybe the IRS has turned into a shakedown organization, help their friends and steal as much from enemies
Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2025 12:26 PM (fwDg9)
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4.7 Trillion unaccounted for? People need to go to prison for this. At the very least.
And until people are held accountable, very harshly and very publicly accountable, this will continue.
And until people are held accountable, very harshly and very publicly accountable, this will continue.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at February 18, 2025 12:26 PM (xIWcS)
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He’s reporting ICE just showed up and HUNDREDS of illegal workers ran away. Hyundai is employing HUNDREDS OF ILLEGAL WORKERS at their plants
He says “80-90%” of the group he works with are illegal Venezuelans
At this point, I don't even care so much that they ran away. I want all the corrupt employers exposed. Let's find out who's been hiring all these illegals. Then start prosecuting them.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 18, 2025
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Good. Prosecute the employers. After a few examples, the others won't even be tempted to hire someone who *could* be an illegal. With no jobs, no freebies, and with ICE cops looking for them, the invaders should deport themselves in short order.
He says “80-90%” of the group he works with are illegal Venezuelans
At this point, I don't even care so much that they ran away. I want all the corrupt employers exposed. Let's find out who's been hiring all these illegals. Then start prosecuting them.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 18, 2025
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Good. Prosecute the employers. After a few examples, the others won't even be tempted to hire someone who *could* be an illegal. With no jobs, no freebies, and with ICE cops looking for them, the invaders should deport themselves in short order.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 18, 2025 12:26 PM (J2vNu)
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He’s reporting ICE just showed up and HUNDREDS of illegal workers ran away. Hyundai is employing HUNDREDS OF ILLEGAL WORKERS at their plants
He says “80-90%” of the group he works with are illegal Venezuelans
At this point, I don't even care so much that they ran away. I want all the corrupt employers exposed. Let's find out who's been hiring all these illegals. Then start prosecuting them.
Posted by: Dr. T
Just like with drug dealers. Confiscate the property and proceeds from illegal activity.
IOW, assume ownership of the automobile plant.
He says “80-90%” of the group he works with are illegal Venezuelans
At this point, I don't even care so much that they ran away. I want all the corrupt employers exposed. Let's find out who's been hiring all these illegals. Then start prosecuting them.
Posted by: Dr. T
Just like with drug dealers. Confiscate the property and proceeds from illegal activity.
IOW, assume ownership of the automobile plant.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 12:26 PM (jfdO+)
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Just checking: We aren't tired of winning yet, right? Because the media seems to think a whole bunch of us are regretting our vote now.
Posted by: NR Pax at February 18, 2025 12:26 PM (NR6c1)
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at February 18, 2025 12:27 PM (et1vG)
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To put this in perspective, $4.7Trillion is enough for you to take your entire family to get frozen yogurt and all of you can put any toppings you want on it.
Posted by: Sifty Boones at February 18, 2025 12:22 PM (1tif4)
While touring the galaxy as you buy up luxury planets.
Posted by: Sifty Boones at February 18, 2025 12:22 PM (1tif4)
While touring the galaxy as you buy up luxury planets.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 18, 2025 12:27 PM (VwHCD)
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Posted by: Josephistan at February 18, 2025 12:21 PM (y9ksN)
Now, look deeper at how all those folks from the SAME COUNTRY got here, and got those jobs.
There is a word for that..... can you say... conspiracy? nice try... I knew you could...
Now, look deeper at how all those folks from the SAME COUNTRY got here, and got those jobs.
There is a word for that..... can you say... conspiracy? nice try... I knew you could...
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 18, 2025 12:27 PM (QAkQ3)
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42 Gee, I never would have expected this! 30 years as a useless hirudinean layabout.
come for the snark, stay for the vocabulary expansion...
come for the snark, stay for the vocabulary expansion...
Posted by: anachronda at February 18, 2025 12:27 PM (oY6Yp)
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DOGE discovered that $4.7 TRILLION of Treasury payments lack any kind of notation for what the payment is actually for, making them almost impossible to trace and verify.
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This is very easy to verity. Stop the payments and see who comes in begging for reinstatement !
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This is very easy to verity. Stop the payments and see who comes in begging for reinstatement !
Posted by: Maxine Waters' Wig at February 18, 2025 12:27 PM (g47mK)
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And to be clear if any of these people did this shit in the private sector they'd be looking at Enron level press coverage and personal prosecutions.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 12:25 PM (t0Rmr)
Please don't mention Enron.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 12:25 PM (t0Rmr)
Please don't mention Enron.
Posted by: Paul Krugman, with an updated resume at February 18, 2025 12:27 PM (PiwSw)
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not certain i understand how a resignation would stop doge from looking into their books. the most it would do is change *whose* books are being looked into, but the books themselves wouldn't change; they would just belong to resignation boy's successor.
IIRC, there is a big difference in how a Fed vs a retired Fed can be pursued legally.
IIRC, there is a big difference in how a Fed vs a retired Fed can be pursued legally.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 18, 2025 12:27 PM (xCA6C)
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Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at February 18, 2025 12:25 PM (4XwPj)
Likely the Office of P3dophilia and P3derasty, which trains elementary, middle and high school teachers on How to Effectively Coorupt the Youth of America.
Likely the Office of P3dophilia and P3derasty, which trains elementary, middle and high school teachers on How to Effectively Coorupt the Youth of America.
Posted by: kallisto at February 18, 2025 12:27 PM (61FSW)
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Why would the DOE have personal student information?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 18, 2025 12:18 PM (XV/Pl)
Education? Part of the hot or not file teachers can look at before they request transfers.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 18, 2025 12:18 PM (XV/Pl)
Education? Part of the hot or not file teachers can look at before they request transfers.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 12:27 PM (ExV1e)
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In his order, he described the plaintiffs' claims as "entirely conjectural," stating that there was no substantial evidence that Musk's team or the Education Department intended to misuse or distribute the information improperly.
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So if some inexperienced gun owner is publicly twirling their gun around like Doc Holiday and his cup, the harm is entirely conjectural?
Now I don't have a problem with the ruling, but at some point if the "conjectured harm" comes to pass, then it is too late.
Eh, not a lawyer but seems like iffy reasoning to me.
The converse has held sway for so long that nothing gets done due to anticipated harms so I'm waffling on this.
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So if some inexperienced gun owner is publicly twirling their gun around like Doc Holiday and his cup, the harm is entirely conjectural?
Now I don't have a problem with the ruling, but at some point if the "conjectured harm" comes to pass, then it is too late.
Eh, not a lawyer but seems like iffy reasoning to me.
The converse has held sway for so long that nothing gets done due to anticipated harms so I'm waffling on this.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 18, 2025 12:28 PM (FCbAQ)
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NEW: Over 900 former federal prosecutors, including Jack Smith, have signed a letter defending career DOJ officials & condemning President Trump and Pam Bondi for cleaning house.
"We have watched with alarm as these values have been tested by recent actions of the Department’s leadership. Some of you have been ordered to make charging decisions based expressly on considerations other than the facts and the law, including to serve solely political purposes. Some of you have been forced to consider whether your actions will result in the elimination of the Public Integrity Section, created in the wake of the Watergate scandal, and whose vital work is intended to protect the public from government corruption. Several of you have resigned, and others are wondering what will happen to the Department we served and revere."
"To all of you, we communicate this: We salute and admire the courage many of you have already exhibited, and that will guide all of you as you continue to serve the interests of justice. You have responded to ethical challenges of a type no public servant should ever be forced to confront with principle and conviction in the finest traditions of the Department of Ju
"We have watched with alarm as these values have been tested by recent actions of the Department’s leadership. Some of you have been ordered to make charging decisions based expressly on considerations other than the facts and the law, including to serve solely political purposes. Some of you have been forced to consider whether your actions will result in the elimination of the Public Integrity Section, created in the wake of the Watergate scandal, and whose vital work is intended to protect the public from government corruption. Several of you have resigned, and others are wondering what will happen to the Department we served and revere."
"To all of you, we communicate this: We salute and admire the courage many of you have already exhibited, and that will guide all of you as you continue to serve the interests of justice. You have responded to ethical challenges of a type no public servant should ever be forced to confront with principle and conviction in the finest traditions of the Department of Ju
Posted by: SMOD at February 18, 2025 12:28 PM (RHGPo)
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He’s reporting ICE just showed up and HUNDREDS of illegal workers ran away. Hyundai is employing HUNDREDS OF ILLEGAL WORKERS at their plants
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So they all ran and weren't caught? Seems like it's time to start going after the businesses and corporations that employee illegals then.
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So they all ran and weren't caught? Seems like it's time to start going after the businesses and corporations that employee illegals then.
Posted by: Lady in Black at February 18, 2025 12:28 PM (qBdHI)
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I honestly think some SCOTUS clerks have back channeled their district counterparts and told them to tell their bosses to stand down and to not overstep their authority before SCOTUS has to publicly humiliate them.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 12:24 PM (jfdO+)
Although I don't know if he's right about it or not, Trump has certainly been acting like he has nothing to fear from the court system: talking about how he always abides by the court decisions, not going after them too much on social media.
Schlichter, for one, thinks Trump knows what he's doing in handling the judges. I hope so.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 12:24 PM (jfdO+)
Although I don't know if he's right about it or not, Trump has certainly been acting like he has nothing to fear from the court system: talking about how he always abides by the court decisions, not going after them too much on social media.
Schlichter, for one, thinks Trump knows what he's doing in handling the judges. I hope so.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 18, 2025 12:28 PM (lHPJf)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 18, 2025 12:28 PM (dxSpM)
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A perp walk into FPMITA Prison by a few company execs would be worth 10,000 border patrol agents.
Posted by: Sifty Boones at February 18, 2025 12:28 PM (1tif4)
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I suspect one of the big hauls from SSA will be a long list of illegals getting SS benefits.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 12:28 PM (t0Rmr)
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78 Why would the DOE have personal student information?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 18, 2025 12:18 PM (XV/Pl)
Education? Part of the hot or not file teachers can look at before they request transfers.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 12:27 PM (ExV1e)
FAFSA forms ask for the life story of kids and their parents...everything...
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 18, 2025 12:18 PM (XV/Pl)
Education? Part of the hot or not file teachers can look at before they request transfers.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 12:27 PM (ExV1e)
FAFSA forms ask for the life story of kids and their parents...everything...
Posted by: Nova Local at February 18, 2025 12:28 PM (exHjb)
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4.7 TRILLION untraceable payoffs.
No wonder they were putting all those halos around Obama's head.
No wonder they were putting all those halos around Obama's head.
Posted by: eleven at February 18, 2025 12:28 PM (0HaGk)
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oFF
Posted by: runner at February 18, 2025 12:29 PM (g47mK)
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73 42 Gee, I never would have expected this! 30 years as a useless hirudinean layabout.
come for the snark, stay for the vocabulary expansion...
Posted by: anachronda at February 18, 2025 12:27 PM (oY6Yp)
I saw the Hirudinean Harpies open for Hole at Lillith Fair in '99.
come for the snark, stay for the vocabulary expansion...
Posted by: anachronda at February 18, 2025 12:27 PM (oY6Yp)
I saw the Hirudinean Harpies open for Hole at Lillith Fair in '99.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at February 18, 2025 12:29 PM (PiwSw)
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52 What are they hiding at the Dept of Education? They seem to be fighting tooth and claw to keep people from knowing what's going on there. Why? Is it just because Trump wants to shut it down? Or is that possibly a cornerstone of the grifting palace? What is this hysteria about?
Posted by: Madame Mayhem
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My guess is massive fraud in grants from the DoE to NGO groups and also in student financial aid packages. Look to the largest areas of expenditures in the agency and that is the area that will maximize fraud, waste, and abuse.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem
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My guess is massive fraud in grants from the DoE to NGO groups and also in student financial aid packages. Look to the largest areas of expenditures in the agency and that is the area that will maximize fraud, waste, and abuse.
Posted by: whig at February 18, 2025 12:29 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2025 12:29 PM (oa1NA)
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I have a feeling that we are going to find out very soon that social security is not as healthy as they have been claiming it was and it rife with fraud.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 18, 2025 12:18 PM (Rcnd3)
Or that it's far healthier than they've been claiming but for the fact it is rife with fraud.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 18, 2025 12:18 PM (Rcnd3)
Or that it's far healthier than they've been claiming but for the fact it is rife with fraud.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 12:29 PM (ExV1e)
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willowed, re Tom Cotton:
Here I was thinking he was angling for either VP or Sec Def in 28, but no, it's something far worse. He wants to be a future Senate Majority Leader.
Here I was thinking he was angling for either VP or Sec Def in 28, but no, it's something far worse. He wants to be a future Senate Majority Leader.
Posted by: Shenanigans at February 18, 2025 12:29 PM (RZ0i8)
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Gee, I never would have expected this! 30 years as a useless hirudinean layabout.
come for the snark, stay for the vocabulary expansion...
Posted by: anachronda at February 18, 2025 12:27 PM (oY6Yp)
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I did research into old anachronistic words for a book I'm writing. Several of the characters are, well, old and anachronistic, so I thought it would be interesting if they used some, well, old anachronistic words.
come for the snark, stay for the vocabulary expansion...
Posted by: anachronda at February 18, 2025 12:27 PM (oY6Yp)
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I did research into old anachronistic words for a book I'm writing. Several of the characters are, well, old and anachronistic, so I thought it would be interesting if they used some, well, old anachronistic words.
Posted by: Elric Blade at February 18, 2025 12:29 PM (iFTx/)
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FAFSA forms ask for the life story of kids and their parents...everything...
Posted by: Nova Local
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Yep.
Posted by: Nova Local
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Yep.
Posted by: whig at February 18, 2025 12:29 PM (ctrM5)
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There is a word for that..... can you say... conspiracy? nice try... I knew you could...
I have not bought one Chobani yogurt since I found out Obama froze out hundreds of Americans so Iraqis could have those jobs.
And I really liked their product.
I have not bought one Chobani yogurt since I found out Obama froze out hundreds of Americans so Iraqis could have those jobs.
And I really liked their product.
Posted by: kallisto at February 18, 2025 12:30 PM (61FSW)
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"The acting commissioner of the Social Security Administration decided to resign rather than to permit the president's appointed man to look into their books ..."
and is moving to a non-extradition country to reflect on the passage of time. (perhaps)
and is moving to a non-extradition country to reflect on the passage of time. (perhaps)
Posted by: illiniwek at February 18, 2025 12:30 PM (Cus5s)
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$4.7 trillion here and $4.7 trillion there and soon you are talking big money...
Posted by: Life of Wryly at February 18, 2025 12:30 PM (1FWWQ)
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What are they hiding at the Dept of Education? They seem to be fighting tooth and claw to keep people from knowing what's going on there. Why?
they funnel billions and billions and billions of dollars to progrmas "for the children", almost all of which gets eaten up in "administration" --- so you can imagine they don't want people seeing what "administration" is
they funnel billions and billions and billions of dollars to progrmas "for the children", almost all of which gets eaten up in "administration" --- so you can imagine they don't want people seeing what "administration" is
Posted by: brak at February 18, 2025 12:30 PM (jGJov)
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Imagine you have a spouse. Many of us do.
Now, further imagine you each have a checking account.
Further, assume you both work at good paying jobs and your paychecks deposit into your account, and your spouse's into theirs.
Further postulate that you pay the household bills and such out of your account. You spouse is opaque as to what they do with their money.
Now...what would you think if, finally one day you ask to see a bank statement or their check register, and your spouse not only firmly tells you no, but packs their bags and leaves the house and the next day you receive a letter from an attorney representing your spouse threatening divorce if you so much as ask again, and a restraining order from a judge blocking any access to your spouse's finances.
Wouldn't you be a little bit suspicious that all is not well?
(but, what the heck, she's a 10+ and can suck an apple through a garden hose so it's all good - right? )
Now, further imagine you each have a checking account.
Further, assume you both work at good paying jobs and your paychecks deposit into your account, and your spouse's into theirs.
Further postulate that you pay the household bills and such out of your account. You spouse is opaque as to what they do with their money.
Now...what would you think if, finally one day you ask to see a bank statement or their check register, and your spouse not only firmly tells you no, but packs their bags and leaves the house and the next day you receive a letter from an attorney representing your spouse threatening divorce if you so much as ask again, and a restraining order from a judge blocking any access to your spouse's finances.
Wouldn't you be a little bit suspicious that all is not well?
(but, what the heck, she's a 10+ and can suck an apple through a garden hose so it's all good - right? )
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at February 18, 2025 12:30 PM (QGaXH)
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Illegal Lesbian Guatemalans fleeing a Subaru plant clad in flannel shirts.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 18, 2025 12:30 PM (gm9Sb)
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92 I have a feeling that we are going to find out very soon that social security is not as healthy as they have been claiming it was and it rife with fraud.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 18, 2025 12:18 PM (Rcnd3)
Or that it's far healthier than they've been claiming but for the fact it is rife with fraud.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 12:29 PM (ExV1e)
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I love the left's assertion that right now the only thing we're going to find out is that illegal immigrants have propped up the system by paying in with illegal use of SSNs.
Because the idea of committing fraud to get money out of the system never occurred to people who committed fraud to get into the system.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 18, 2025 12:18 PM (Rcnd3)
Or that it's far healthier than they've been claiming but for the fact it is rife with fraud.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 12:29 PM (ExV1e)
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I love the left's assertion that right now the only thing we're going to find out is that illegal immigrants have propped up the system by paying in with illegal use of SSNs.
Because the idea of committing fraud to get money out of the system never occurred to people who committed fraud to get into the system.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 12:30 PM (GBKbO)
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DOGE found that the Treasury Access Symbol (TAS), a key financial identifier, was frequently left blank in transactions totaling $4.7 trillion.
In other words, dey stole dat shit.
In other words, dey stole dat shit.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 18, 2025 12:30 PM (Zz0t1)
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Resign rather than cooperate says nothing good whatsoever about the person who resigned. These people have a ridiculously huge sense of entitlement. Fire them all
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 18, 2025 12:31 PM (+kWhq)
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IIRC, there is a big difference in how a Fed vs a retired Fed can be pursued legally.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 18, 2025 12:27 PM (xCA6C)
Nah, I'm sure it's just a coincidence that Google searches in DC for "criminal defense lawyers" have been spiking the last few days.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 18, 2025 12:27 PM (xCA6C)
Nah, I'm sure it's just a coincidence that Google searches in DC for "criminal defense lawyers" have been spiking the last few days.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 18, 2025 12:31 PM (lHPJf)
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Ohhh - magic 100 - and I wasn't even trying.....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at February 18, 2025 12:31 PM (QGaXH)
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52 What are they hiding at the Dept of Education? They seem to be fighting tooth and claw to keep people from knowing what's going on there. Why? Is it just because Trump wants to shut it down? Or is that possibly a cornerstone of the grifting palace? What is this hysteria about?
Posted by: Madame Mayhem
Big Homo Knows.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem
Big Homo Knows.
Posted by: Pray The Gay Away! at February 18, 2025 12:31 PM (NAF5O)
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Tv show, detective Musk.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at February 18, 2025 12:31 PM (97VPH)
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This is what - how many years? - of continuing resolutions and not having a budget and approriations gets you
You know, it'll be easier to keep track of things when there are fewer things to keep track of.
This is what - how many years? - of continuing resolutions and not having a budget and approriations gets you
You know, it'll be easier to keep track of things when there are fewer things to keep track of.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 18, 2025 12:31 PM (dxSpM)
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Meanwhile, Whoopi has thoughts on cutting government waste.
Collin Rugg
@CollinRugg
NEW: Whoopi Goldberg says DOGE should cut funding for SpaceX because the U.S. government already has NASA.
LMAO. ....
"I don't remember asking for [SpaceX]. When did I say, 'Hey, we need another agency next to NASA.'"
"When did we start paying for this stuff? SpaceX."
"He you know that he he's gonna be cutting Yeah. Uh, NASA. Yeah. Yeah. That's the competition."
"If we wanna cut some money, let's cut some of these."
Collin Rugg
@CollinRugg
NEW: Whoopi Goldberg says DOGE should cut funding for SpaceX because the U.S. government already has NASA.
LMAO. ....
"I don't remember asking for [SpaceX]. When did I say, 'Hey, we need another agency next to NASA.'"
"When did we start paying for this stuff? SpaceX."
"He you know that he he's gonna be cutting Yeah. Uh, NASA. Yeah. Yeah. That's the competition."
"If we wanna cut some money, let's cut some of these."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2025 12:31 PM (4tmpE)
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I have a feeling that we are going to find out very soon that social security is not as healthy as they have been claiming it was and it rife with fraud.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 18, 2025 12:18 PM (Rcnd3)
It will be funny when we find out that SS would've been JUST FINE if they hadn't been ROBBING it BLIND for the past few decades.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 18, 2025 12:18 PM (Rcnd3)
It will be funny when we find out that SS would've been JUST FINE if they hadn't been ROBBING it BLIND for the past few decades.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 18, 2025 12:32 PM (Zz0t1)
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Posted by: SMOD at February 18, 2025 12:18 PM
We need massive, massive, MASSIVE fines and prison sentences for HR and executives involved.
We need massive, massive, MASSIVE fines and prison sentences for HR and executives involved.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 12:32 PM (ExV1e)
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I honestly think some SCOTUS clerks have back channeled their district counterparts and told them to tell their bosses to stand down and to not overstep their authority before SCOTUS has to publicly humiliate them.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 12:24 PM (jfdO+)
Ah, probably not:
“During a hearing, Judge Moss pressed the Justice Department for clarity on Musk’s operatives and their activities within federal agencies. The administration has been tight-lipped about the extent of their roles, raising concerns about transparency. The judge noted that members of Musk’s team had access to multiple agencies’ databases, a level of authority he called "unparalleled in the history of the executive branch."
While the ruling was a setback for student privacy advocates, the judge left open the possibility of revisiting the case. He indicated he would later determine whether the plaintiffs had standing to sue, which could allow for further legal discovery.”
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 12:24 PM (jfdO+)
Ah, probably not:
“During a hearing, Judge Moss pressed the Justice Department for clarity on Musk’s operatives and their activities within federal agencies. The administration has been tight-lipped about the extent of their roles, raising concerns about transparency. The judge noted that members of Musk’s team had access to multiple agencies’ databases, a level of authority he called "unparalleled in the history of the executive branch."
While the ruling was a setback for student privacy advocates, the judge left open the possibility of revisiting the case. He indicated he would later determine whether the plaintiffs had standing to sue, which could allow for further legal discovery.”
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 18, 2025 12:32 PM (l3YAf)
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“They are making electric cars. Today immigration came and hundreds of people left running, jumping fences”
“Who do not have documents, who do not have legal status in America”
Posted by: SMOD at February 18, 2025 12:18 PM (RHGPo)
But who will pick our lettuce and mow our lawns?
-AWFLs whining at group therapy (happy hour)
“Who do not have documents, who do not have legal status in America”
Posted by: SMOD at February 18, 2025 12:18 PM (RHGPo)
But who will pick our lettuce and mow our lawns?
-AWFLs whining at group therapy (happy hour)
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 18, 2025 12:32 PM (FCbAQ)
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Over 900 former federal prosecutors, including Jack Smith, have signed a letter defending career DOJ officials & condemning President Trump and Pam Bondi for cleaning house.
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On NO!!!
Anyway
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On NO!!!
Anyway
Posted by: Life of Wryly at February 18, 2025 12:32 PM (1FWWQ)
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Why would the SSA Commissioner quit over a DOGE audit? To the extent there is fraud at SSA, it's more likely to be program participants committing the crimes, not SSA itself.
Posted by: Oglebay at February 18, 2025 12:32 PM (2ap+5)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 18, 2025 12:32 PM (dxSpM)
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Had my doubts about DOGE, I was very wrong. This is better than a government shutdown.
Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at February 18, 2025 12:32 PM (7hY4y)
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What are they hiding at the Dept of Education? They seem to be fighting tooth and claw to keep people from knowing what's going on there. Why? Is it just because Trump wants to shut it down? Or is that possibly a cornerstone of the grifting palace? What is this hysteria about?
Posted by: Madame Mayhem
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My guess is massive fraud in grants from the DoE to NGO groups and also in student financial aid packages. Look to the largest areas of expenditures in the agency and that is the area that will maximize fraud, waste, and abuse.
Posted by: whig at February 18, 2025 12:29 PM (ctrM5)
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This. Plus, I think DoE is one of the most useless and worst of the federal agencies, and even a cursory look at what it does will show that. At least USAID had some theoretic purpose that could be justified. DoE has none. It's pure scum and villainy.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem
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My guess is massive fraud in grants from the DoE to NGO groups and also in student financial aid packages. Look to the largest areas of expenditures in the agency and that is the area that will maximize fraud, waste, and abuse.
Posted by: whig at February 18, 2025 12:29 PM (ctrM5)
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This. Plus, I think DoE is one of the most useless and worst of the federal agencies, and even a cursory look at what it does will show that. At least USAID had some theoretic purpose that could be justified. DoE has none. It's pure scum and villainy.
Posted by: Elric Blade at February 18, 2025 12:32 PM (iFTx/)
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101 Illegal Lesbian Guatemalans fleeing a Subaru plant clad in flannel shirts.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 18, 2025 12:30 PM (gm9Sb)
We are hitting all the '99 Lillith Fair acts today!
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 18, 2025 12:30 PM (gm9Sb)
We are hitting all the '99 Lillith Fair acts today!
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at February 18, 2025 12:33 PM (PiwSw)
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Biden is a Traitor and should be Tried as a Traitor .....
Posted by: Allota Fagina at February 18, 2025 12:33 PM (h/LZl)
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@80
>>NEW: Over 900 former federal prosecutors, including Jack Smith, have signed a letter defending career DOJ officials & condemning President Trump and Pam Bondi for cleaning house.
Dodge Boy 1: Hey Jack, so... why exactly did you receive that $140k "gift?"
Jack Smith: ...
Doge Boy 2: * Leans In *
Jack Smith: ...
Dodge Boy 1: * Makes Spock Eye *
Jack Smith: I wish to invoke my 5th amendment rights to...
>>NEW: Over 900 former federal prosecutors, including Jack Smith, have signed a letter defending career DOJ officials & condemning President Trump and Pam Bondi for cleaning house.
Dodge Boy 1: Hey Jack, so... why exactly did you receive that $140k "gift?"
Jack Smith: ...
Doge Boy 2: * Leans In *
Jack Smith: ...
Dodge Boy 1: * Makes Spock Eye *
Jack Smith: I wish to invoke my 5th amendment rights to...
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 18, 2025 12:33 PM (XV/Pl)
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The acting commissioner of the Social Security Administration decided to resign rather than to permit the president's appointed man to look into their books.
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DC-area searches for "Criminal Defense Attorney" now trending at 20 times the national average ...
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DC-area searches for "Criminal Defense Attorney" now trending at 20 times the national average ...
Posted by: ShainS -- The Deep State Dies in Daylight at February 18, 2025 12:33 PM (1YwYn)
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IIRC, there is a big difference in how a Fed vs a retired Fed can be pursued legally.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 18, 2025 12:27 PM (xCA6C)
There is also a yuge difference in Congresses ability to get you to testify, between a 'retired' Fed worker, and an active Fed worker.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 18, 2025 12:27 PM (xCA6C)
There is also a yuge difference in Congresses ability to get you to testify, between a 'retired' Fed worker, and an active Fed worker.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 18, 2025 12:33 PM (QAkQ3)
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We need massive, massive, MASSIVE fines and prison sentences for HR and executives involved.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 12:32 PM (ExV1e)
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Even if they're not involved. It'll be good for them.
We need massive, massive, MASSIVE fines and prison sentences for HR and executives involved.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 12:32 PM (ExV1e)
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Even if they're not involved. It'll be good for them.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 18, 2025 12:33 PM (dxSpM)
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I bet the landscaping at the Hyundai plant is really amazing.
Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2025 12:24 PM (iu4Pw)
They're hiding in the topiaries!
Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2025 12:24 PM (iu4Pw)
They're hiding in the topiaries!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 18, 2025 12:33 PM (8zz6B)
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Collin Rugg
@CollinRugg
NEW: Whoopi Goldberg says DOGE should cut funding for SpaceX because the U.S. government already has NASA.
Well, you see, Whoopi, Barack Owebama gutted that organization and turned it into a DIE muslham outreach program that really hasn't accomplished one damn thing in the way of space exploration since. Billions of dollars have been wasted in it, thus America had to turn to SpaceX to get ACTUAL space work done.
@CollinRugg
NEW: Whoopi Goldberg says DOGE should cut funding for SpaceX because the U.S. government already has NASA.
Well, you see, Whoopi, Barack Owebama gutted that organization and turned it into a DIE muslham outreach program that really hasn't accomplished one damn thing in the way of space exploration since. Billions of dollars have been wasted in it, thus America had to turn to SpaceX to get ACTUAL space work done.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 18, 2025 12:34 PM (Zz0t1)
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Vance has a story in his book about Fafsa. Because of his crazy upbringing he and his MeMaw had no idea how to fill out the form. Which is why he went into the Marines instead of going to college. This ended up being a major turning point in his life when the Marines turned him from being a chubby C+ student into the man who went on to become the VP of the US.
Maybe not getting government benefits can be life changing.
Maybe not getting government benefits can be life changing.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 18, 2025 12:34 PM (t/2Uw)
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" Over 900 former federal prosecutors, including Jack Smith, have signed a letter defending career DOJ officials & condemning President Trump and Pam Bondi for cleaning house."
That'll teach us!
Now we've really gone and done it.
That'll teach us!
Now we've really gone and done it.
Posted by: eleven at February 18, 2025 12:34 PM (0HaGk)
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How much does a funeral home charge to forget about reporting a death to SSA?
Posted by: Oglebay at February 18, 2025 12:34 PM (2ap+5)
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All of what is being discussed here is exactly the means by which a person can go to DC middle class and leave after a time as a wealthy elite… and also how no talent people ( or perhaps their talent being sycophantic lackeys) go to DC and make bank while becoming embedded like ticks. DC is an iteration of Babylon…
Posted by: tubal at February 18, 2025 12:34 PM (I7EWV)
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Shouldn't vote conformation for Kash Patel be today?
Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2025 12:34 PM (fwDg9)
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To put this in perspective, $4.7Trillion is enough for you to take your entire family to get frozen yogurt and all of you can put any toppings you want on it.
Posted by: Sifty Boones at February 18, 2025 12:22 PM (1tif4)
You could order the 4 egg omelet!
Posted by: Sifty Boones at February 18, 2025 12:22 PM (1tif4)
You could order the 4 egg omelet!
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 18, 2025 12:34 PM (FCbAQ)
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132 Shouldn't vote conformation for Kash Patel be today?
Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2025 12:34 PM (fwDg9)
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Procedural of some kind.
Final floor vote will end up in the next couple of days.
Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2025 12:34 PM (fwDg9)
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Procedural of some kind.
Final floor vote will end up in the next couple of days.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 12:34 PM (GBKbO)
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Defund NASA. SpaceX gets results, NASA, not so much.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 18, 2025 12:35 PM (pohLc)
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83.
Schlichter never saw a problem a giant taxpayer-funded settlement for him or another lawyer buddy wouldn't fix.
Just an observation. Hammer and nail and whatnot.
Schlichter never saw a problem a giant taxpayer-funded settlement for him or another lawyer buddy wouldn't fix.
Just an observation. Hammer and nail and whatnot.
Posted by: Sifty Boones at February 18, 2025 12:35 PM (OUgIZ)
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I'm in finance and can say it's perfectly normal for key people to start resigning as an audit begins.
Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2025 12:35 PM (iu4Pw)
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Dodge Boy 1: * Makes Spock Eye *
Jack Smith: I wish to invoke my 5th amendment rights to...
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 18, 2025 12:33 PM (XV/Pl)
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Jack Smith: ... and I'll take the Lois Lerner deal.
Jack Smith: I wish to invoke my 5th amendment rights to...
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 18, 2025 12:33 PM (XV/Pl)
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Jack Smith: ... and I'll take the Lois Lerner deal.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Deep State Dies in Daylight at February 18, 2025 12:35 PM (1YwYn)
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The acting commissioner of the Social Security Administration decided to resign rather than to permit the president's appointed man to look into their books.
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Because it's going to be shown to have been fine, perfectly solvent indefinitely, except for the fraud.
And all the poormouthing was to cushion the American public into accepting that all of the money was being stolen right in front of their eyes and to not question it.
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Because it's going to be shown to have been fine, perfectly solvent indefinitely, except for the fraud.
And all the poormouthing was to cushion the American public into accepting that all of the money was being stolen right in front of their eyes and to not question it.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Feminism moved women back to unregulated polygamy, forming harems among themselves at February 18, 2025 12:35 PM (sG4Li)
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>> To the extent there is fraud at SSA, it's more likely to be program participants committing the crimes, not SSA itself.
Lol, sure.
And SSA knows the system is rife with fraud. They weren’t interested in fixing it. That’s why she resigned.
Lol, sure.
And SSA knows the system is rife with fraud. They weren’t interested in fixing it. That’s why she resigned.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 18, 2025 12:35 PM (l3YAf)
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Good. Prosecute the employers. After a few examples, the others won't even be tempted to hire someone who *could* be an illegal. With no jobs, no freebies, and with ICE cops looking for them, the invaders should deport themselves in short order.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 18, 2025 12:26 PM (J2vNu)
Going after employers is the best solution, IMO. It defuses the media's propaganda efforts in getting the sympathy factor in play when Juanita and her brats get rounded up to be shipped out. Nobody will have sympathy for rich, fat-cat employers and once the jobs dry up the deportations become self-imposed. And thus impervious to media manipulation.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 18, 2025 12:26 PM (J2vNu)
Going after employers is the best solution, IMO. It defuses the media's propaganda efforts in getting the sympathy factor in play when Juanita and her brats get rounded up to be shipped out. Nobody will have sympathy for rich, fat-cat employers and once the jobs dry up the deportations become self-imposed. And thus impervious to media manipulation.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at February 18, 2025 12:35 PM (xIWcS)
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The Dept of Education has always been a grift machine. I knew it served no other purpose when I continued to pay high school taxes and continually had to vote against school bonds.
Exactly where were all those billions budgeted to the DOE going to?
Exactly where were all those billions budgeted to the DOE going to?
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 18, 2025 12:35 PM (VofaG)
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The number of Zillow Listings for Homes for Sale in and around DC is hysterical.
Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2025 12:35 PM (oa1NA)
Posted by: arnold horshack at February 18, 2025 12:35 PM (oY6Yp)
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This. Plus, I think DoE is one of the most useless and worst of the federal agencies, and even a cursory look at what it does will show that. At least USAID had some theoretic purpose that could be justified. DoE has none. It's pure scum and villainy.
Posted by: Elric Blade at February 18, 2025 12:32 PM (iFTx/)
Why would Department of Education even HAVE information on parents, their salaries, and other information? I sure never gave that info to DOE... are they getting it from the State Funded schools? and just what reason do they have FOR that information? Unless its for Equity crap.
Posted by: Elric Blade at February 18, 2025 12:32 PM (iFTx/)
Why would Department of Education even HAVE information on parents, their salaries, and other information? I sure never gave that info to DOE... are they getting it from the State Funded schools? and just what reason do they have FOR that information? Unless its for Equity crap.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 18, 2025 12:35 PM (QAkQ3)
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127 Collin Rugg
@CollinRugg
NEW: Whoopi Goldberg says DOGE should cut funding for SpaceX because the U.S. government already has NASA.
Well, you see, Whoopi, Barack Owebama gutted that organization and turned it into a DIE muslham outreach program that really hasn't accomplished one damn thing in the way of space exploration since. Billions of dollars have been wasted in it, thus America had to turn to SpaceX to get ACTUAL space work done.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 18, 2025 12:34 PM (Zz0t1)
You know, NASA could be shut and its functions sent over to the Space Force...it's pretty much the Star Trek way...those Star Trek guys were all "officers" and "enlisted", not Joe Schmo civilians on the ship...
@CollinRugg
NEW: Whoopi Goldberg says DOGE should cut funding for SpaceX because the U.S. government already has NASA.
Well, you see, Whoopi, Barack Owebama gutted that organization and turned it into a DIE muslham outreach program that really hasn't accomplished one damn thing in the way of space exploration since. Billions of dollars have been wasted in it, thus America had to turn to SpaceX to get ACTUAL space work done.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 18, 2025 12:34 PM (Zz0t1)
You know, NASA could be shut and its functions sent over to the Space Force...it's pretty much the Star Trek way...those Star Trek guys were all "officers" and "enlisted", not Joe Schmo civilians on the ship...
Posted by: Nova Local at February 18, 2025 12:35 PM (exHjb)
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“They are making electric cars. Today immigration came and hundreds of people left running, jumping fences”
But who will pick our lettuce and mow our lawns?
-AWFLs whining at group therapy (happy hour)
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 18, 2025 12:32 PM (FCbAQ)
What will our firefighters do without EVs exploding left and right?
But who will pick our lettuce and mow our lawns?
-AWFLs whining at group therapy (happy hour)
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 18, 2025 12:32 PM (FCbAQ)
What will our firefighters do without EVs exploding left and right?
Posted by: Dr. T at February 18, 2025 12:35 PM (lHPJf)
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What are they hiding at the Dept of Education?
Posted by: Madame Mayhem
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Their counter-productivity, and how well it pays.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem
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Their counter-productivity, and how well it pays.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 18, 2025 12:35 PM (XeU6L)
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They've been highly successful in finding lots of waste and fraud, yet NO ONE IS GOING TO JAIL for it.
Dog and pony?
Dog and pony?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 18, 2025 12:36 PM (Zz0t1)
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>>> Any system which makes it impossible to detect fraud has been set up precisely to enable fraud.
The hell you say?!!!
The hell you say?!!!
Posted by: ActBlue at February 18, 2025 12:36 PM (FznSi)
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(but, what the heck, she's a 10+ and can suck an apple through a garden hose so it's all good - right? )
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at February 18, 2025 12:30 PM (QGaX
Well then she deserves special consideration
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at February 18, 2025 12:30 PM (QGaX
Well then she deserves special consideration
Posted by: MAC V SOG at February 18, 2025 12:36 PM (P4Pk9)
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over how long a period the $4.7T was misspent. Does anyone know?
A fellow could have a nice weekend in Vegas with that.
A fellow could have a nice weekend in Vegas with that.
Posted by: Mel Brooks Employee of the flic. at February 18, 2025 12:36 PM (FhXTo)
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I want on air suicides of news media people.
They were supposed to be our watchers of the gvt. Instead, they took money from the government that was stolen from our blood sweat and tears to frame all conservatives as Nazis/fascists.
They helped spread race war propaganda and gleefully watched cities burn just to "get drumpf".
Every single individual.and organization who received any federal funding for the outright anarchy that has been wrought should stay buried under the rubble of the fraudulent house they built.
Fuck em
They were supposed to be our watchers of the gvt. Instead, they took money from the government that was stolen from our blood sweat and tears to frame all conservatives as Nazis/fascists.
They helped spread race war propaganda and gleefully watched cities burn just to "get drumpf".
Every single individual.and organization who received any federal funding for the outright anarchy that has been wrought should stay buried under the rubble of the fraudulent house they built.
Fuck em
Posted by: melodicmetal1 at February 18, 2025 12:36 PM (GqJe1)
Posted by: Sifty Boones at February 18, 2025 12:37 PM (OUgIZ)
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Why would the DOE have personal student information?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 18, 2025 12:18 PM (XV/Pl)
I believe the theory is that the DoE has the financial information of the students receiving loans, and that any audit will release that private information.
I think that would be interesting to find out if the people receiving federally backed loans are actually students though.
The current tuition undergrad loan is 6.35 according to the website, and the average small business loan is between 8- 12%
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 18, 2025 12:18 PM (XV/Pl)
I believe the theory is that the DoE has the financial information of the students receiving loans, and that any audit will release that private information.
I think that would be interesting to find out if the people receiving federally backed loans are actually students though.
The current tuition undergrad loan is 6.35 according to the website, and the average small business loan is between 8- 12%
Posted by: Kindltot at February 18, 2025 12:37 PM (D7oie)
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Going after employers is the best solution, IMO. It defuses the media's propaganda efforts in getting the sympathy factor in play when Juanita and her brats get rounded up to be shipped out. Nobody will have sympathy for rich, fat-cat employers and once the jobs dry up the deportations become self-imposed. And thus impervious to media manipulation.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at February 18, 2025 12:35 PM (xIWcS)
But you need to make the connection between Employers, and Coyotes.... between US big Business, and the Cartels that control illegal immigration...
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at February 18, 2025 12:35 PM (xIWcS)
But you need to make the connection between Employers, and Coyotes.... between US big Business, and the Cartels that control illegal immigration...
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 18, 2025 12:37 PM (QAkQ3)
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I dont think we can appreciate and thus turn into an unfoaming unhinged righteous rage at just how our tax dollars have been co-opted to fund the lavish lifestyles of the deep state
as well as fund woke DEI, countless wars, illegal invasions, overthrowing governments, et al
all at the expense of depriving 150 year old grandmas of their social security checks
as well as fund woke DEI, countless wars, illegal invasions, overthrowing governments, et al
all at the expense of depriving 150 year old grandmas of their social security checks
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - China is Assho And Void of Freedom Loving Wagshambas at February 18, 2025 12:37 PM (HYKHz)
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Defund NASA. SpaceX gets results, NASA, not so much.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 18, 2025 12:35 PM (pohLc)
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I had a tram ride around JSC recently. I was amazed at how dingy and grimy the buildings were. The place looked like a failing industrial park.
Defund NASA. SpaceX gets results, NASA, not so much.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 18, 2025 12:35 PM (pohLc)
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I had a tram ride around JSC recently. I was amazed at how dingy and grimy the buildings were. The place looked like a failing industrial park.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 18, 2025 12:37 PM (dxSpM)
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How do I know when I least expect it?
Posted by: eleven at February 18, 2025 12:37 PM (0HaGk)
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135 Defund NASA. SpaceX gets results, NASA, not so much.
but nasa is a noble public endeavor. spacex, on the other hand, is dirty money-grubbing exploitation.
but nasa is a noble public endeavor. spacex, on the other hand, is dirty money-grubbing exploitation.
Posted by: my friends on facebook at February 18, 2025 12:37 PM (oY6Yp)
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All this stuff coming out makes me feel like a retard.
I always thought I was pushing things about my conception of the deep state and the corruption. I thought that one more step into the conspiracy theories would get me into the land of the Keepers Of Odd Knowledge (KOOKs).
I thought the system was basically legitimate but were nudged at the margins to bring about the nefarious outcomes.
But it isn't that the system is corrupt; corruption is the system.
Today I'm going to join the John Birch Society.
I always thought I was pushing things about my conception of the deep state and the corruption. I thought that one more step into the conspiracy theories would get me into the land of the Keepers Of Odd Knowledge (KOOKs).
I thought the system was basically legitimate but were nudged at the margins to bring about the nefarious outcomes.
But it isn't that the system is corrupt; corruption is the system.
Today I'm going to join the John Birch Society.
Posted by: Minuteman at February 18, 2025 12:37 PM (+rb8S)
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Let's apply Sarbanes-Oxley to the Federal Government
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 18, 2025 12:38 PM (N28XY)
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I believe the theory is that the DoE has the financial information of the students receiving loans, and that any audit will release that private information.
I think that would be interesting to find out if the people receiving federally backed loans are actually students though.
The current tuition undergrad loan is 6.35 according to the website, and the average small business loan is between 8- 12%
Posted by: Kindltot at February 18, 2025 12:37 PM (D7oie)
Those loan amounts, and who has them, is ALREADY public information... you will find it on every F'n credit report.
I think that would be interesting to find out if the people receiving federally backed loans are actually students though.
The current tuition undergrad loan is 6.35 according to the website, and the average small business loan is between 8- 12%
Posted by: Kindltot at February 18, 2025 12:37 PM (D7oie)
Those loan amounts, and who has them, is ALREADY public information... you will find it on every F'n credit report.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 18, 2025 12:38 PM (QAkQ3)
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Why would the SSA Commissioner quit over a DOGE audit? To the extent there is fraud at SSA, it's more likely to be program participants committing the crimes, not SSA itself.
Posted by: Oglebay at February 18, 2025 12:32 PM (2ap+5)
Heh.
Someone is going to accuse you of being naive.
Posted by: Oglebay at February 18, 2025 12:32 PM (2ap+5)
Heh.
Someone is going to accuse you of being naive.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 18, 2025 12:38 PM (FCbAQ)
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The acting commissioner of the Social Security Administration decided to resign
I haven't seen the original tweet, but apparently Musk said that 400 million people are eligible for Social Security. I don't know if he means no number has ever been retired or that new ones have been invented.
I haven't seen the original tweet, but apparently Musk said that 400 million people are eligible for Social Security. I don't know if he means no number has ever been retired or that new ones have been invented.
Posted by: t-bird at February 18, 2025 12:38 PM (JzFC4)
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I believe the SS administrator was just given the job a few weeks before inauguration, a last minute appointment. I would think that the previous administrator that retired is the one headed to a non extradition country.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 18, 2025 12:38 PM (lTGtQ)
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>>Exactly where were all those billions budgeted to the DOE going to?
Like everything else, hookers, blow, lemon parties, sexual harassment civil suits, gimp costumes, etc.
>>Exactly where were all those billions budgeted to the DOE going to?
Like everything else, hookers, blow, lemon parties, sexual harassment civil suits, gimp costumes, etc.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 18, 2025 12:38 PM (XV/Pl)
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When do we start using "without evidence" and "debunked" on leftie accusations?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 18, 2025
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Immediately if not sooner
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 18, 2025
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Immediately if not sooner
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 18, 2025 12:38 PM (J2vNu)
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4.7 T but doesn't say over what period of time. That is essential information.
Posted by: Miley
SSA established 1935, so 90 years of this.
4.7 T averaged over 90 years is 52.2 billion per year.
This is your average yearly fraud, a convenient starting point for discussion.
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at February 18, 2025 12:25 PM (w9Wax)
The $4.7T is payments from Treasury, it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with SS.
Posted by: Miley
SSA established 1935, so 90 years of this.
4.7 T averaged over 90 years is 52.2 billion per year.
This is your average yearly fraud, a convenient starting point for discussion.
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at February 18, 2025 12:25 PM (w9Wax)
The $4.7T is payments from Treasury, it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with SS.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 12:38 PM (ExV1e)
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153.
Meh Hassan and Margaret are doing the on air thing now.
Meh Hassan and Margaret are doing the on air thing now.
Posted by: Sifty Boones at February 18, 2025 12:39 PM (OUgIZ)
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155 Why would the DOE have personal student information?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 18, 2025 12:18 PM (XV/Pl)
I believe the theory is that the DoE has the financial information of the students receiving loans, and that any audit will release that private information.
I think that would be interesting to find out if the people receiving federally backed loans are actually students though.
The current tuition undergrad loan is 6.35 according to the website, and the average small business loan is between 8- 12%
Posted by: Kindltot at February 18, 2025 12:37 PM (D7oie)
They also have the student grant programs (like the Pell Grant)...free money to the desirables...
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 18, 2025 12:18 PM (XV/Pl)
I believe the theory is that the DoE has the financial information of the students receiving loans, and that any audit will release that private information.
I think that would be interesting to find out if the people receiving federally backed loans are actually students though.
The current tuition undergrad loan is 6.35 according to the website, and the average small business loan is between 8- 12%
Posted by: Kindltot at February 18, 2025 12:37 PM (D7oie)
They also have the student grant programs (like the Pell Grant)...free money to the desirables...
Posted by: Nova Local at February 18, 2025 12:39 PM (exHjb)
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So they all ran and weren't caught? Seems like it's time to start going after the businesses and corporations that employee illegals then.
Posted by: Lady in Black at February 18, 2025 12:28 PM (qBdHI)
Sounds like ICE should have stationed armed agents all around the perimeter.
Posted by: Lady in Black at February 18, 2025 12:28 PM (qBdHI)
Sounds like ICE should have stationed armed agents all around the perimeter.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 18, 2025 12:39 PM (8zz6B)
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A fellow could have a nice weekend in Vegas with that.
Posted by: Mel Brooks Employee of the flic. at February 18, 2025 12:36 PM (FhXTo)
Point of order: I believe that's a line from Stanley Kubrick's "Dr. Strangelove."
Posted by: Mel Brooks Employee of the flic. at February 18, 2025 12:36 PM (FhXTo)
Point of order: I believe that's a line from Stanley Kubrick's "Dr. Strangelove."
Posted by: Dr. T at February 18, 2025 12:39 PM (lHPJf)
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Defund NASA. SpaceX gets results, NASA, not so much.
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Future Muslim Astronauts hardest hit ...
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Future Muslim Astronauts hardest hit ...
Posted by: ShainS -- The Deep State Dies in Daylight at February 18, 2025 12:39 PM (1YwYn)
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Why would the SSA Commissioner quit over a DOGE audit? To the extent there is fraud at SSA, it's more likely to be program participants committing the crimes, not SSA itself.
Posted by: Oglebay
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You'll understand their game when you realize that was the very thing they've been trying to convince you of for all these decades. And it's very successful. It's the first place lots of people went.
Turns out that whole push was almost certainly a psy-op. The mass money laundering was probably occurring internally.
Posted by: Oglebay
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You'll understand their game when you realize that was the very thing they've been trying to convince you of for all these decades. And it's very successful. It's the first place lots of people went.
Turns out that whole push was almost certainly a psy-op. The mass money laundering was probably occurring internally.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Feminism moved women back to unregulated polygamy, forming harems among themselves at February 18, 2025 12:39 PM (sG4Li)
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Amusing discussion on X last night.
Did you know that there are 11 million illegal aliens in the United States?
Amazingly, twenty years ago there were also 11 million illegal aliens in the United States.
Anybody believe that there has been no increase in the number of illegal aliens over the last twenty years?
Did you know that there are 11 million illegal aliens in the United States?
Amazingly, twenty years ago there were also 11 million illegal aliens in the United States.
Anybody believe that there has been no increase in the number of illegal aliens over the last twenty years?
Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 18, 2025 12:39 PM (uxCna)
Posted by: Edward Scissorhands Musk at February 18, 2025 12:39 PM (XeU6L)
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Had and interesting phone convo with a relative who owns a catering business inside the DC Beltway. She's one of the few liberals in my family and she called me out of the blue to vent about how bad Trump is. Then, she told me her client base isn't calling to set up parties. She's developed business and personal relationships with these people and blames Trump for their plight. So, I asked her. "Why do you think they aren't hiring you?"
She told me they are losing their jobs, and those that haven't are wary that they're next. So, I said, "They can't afford to hire you at present." "Yes".
I said, "Ok, keep watching. You're going to find out that those taxes you pay reluctantly, yet diligently every year were going into these people's pockets, and that's how they could afford to hire you so readily. What do you think of that?" At first she denied that was possible, but by the time she hung up I could hear the wheels turning. Someone is about to switch sides of the aisle.
She told me they are losing their jobs, and those that haven't are wary that they're next. So, I said, "They can't afford to hire you at present." "Yes".
I said, "Ok, keep watching. You're going to find out that those taxes you pay reluctantly, yet diligently every year were going into these people's pockets, and that's how they could afford to hire you so readily. What do you think of that?" At first she denied that was possible, but by the time she hung up I could hear the wheels turning. Someone is about to switch sides of the aisle.
Posted by: Orson at February 18, 2025 12:39 PM (dIske)
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When DOGE finally gets around to DoD, I hope right leaners won't suddenly question the purpose of it.
One thing they should start with is looking at how much we spend to maintain bases in Europe, and then recommend we cut 100% of it.
One thing they should start with is looking at how much we spend to maintain bases in Europe, and then recommend we cut 100% of it.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2025 12:39 PM (dGCAG)
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I saw Illegal Guatemalan Lesbians open for Three Non Blondes at the Palladium. Actually I didn't, Three NonBlondes sucked
Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 18, 2025 12:39 PM (KXtU1)
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I suspect one of the big hauls from SSA will be a long list of illegals getting SS benefits.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025
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If Musk and his team handle this right, I suspect the "lockbox" will be in fine shape soon.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025
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If Musk and his team handle this right, I suspect the "lockbox" will be in fine shape soon.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 18, 2025 12:39 PM (J2vNu)
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What's the last significant accomplishment of NASA? When's the last time they launched anything?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 18, 2025 12:40 PM (Zz0t1)
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>>> The number of Zillow Listings for Homes for Sale in and around DC is hysterical.
Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2025 12:35 PM (oa1NA)
I would love for them to all go to California. But I don't get to have nice things. I have a great fear they're coming to ATL and Georgia is f'ed. We'll,... more f'ed.
Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2025 12:35 PM (oa1NA)
I would love for them to all go to California. But I don't get to have nice things. I have a great fear they're coming to ATL and Georgia is f'ed. We'll,... more f'ed.
Posted by: banana Dream at February 18, 2025 12:40 PM (FznSi)
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NEW: Over 900 former federal prosecutors, including Jack Smith, have signed a letter defending career DOJ officials & condemning President Trump and Pam Bondi for cleaning house.
The Deep State does know we recognize their "4 out of 5 dentists say Orange Man is Bad" gambit by now and just laugh, right?
The Deep State does know we recognize their "4 out of 5 dentists say Orange Man is Bad" gambit by now and just laugh, right?
Posted by: Ian S. at February 18, 2025 12:40 PM (2ocoG)
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NASA just has to change their mission statement. They are still necessary and have done and still do good things. The latest being the Webb telescope.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 18, 2025 12:40 PM (VofaG)
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FAFSA forms ask for the life story of kids and their parents...everything...
Posted by: Nova Local at February 18, 2025 12:28 PM
The SF86 form is probably the only form that has more personal information than the FAFSA
Posted by: Nova Local at February 18, 2025 12:28 PM
The SF86 form is probably the only form that has more personal information than the FAFSA
Posted by: Chuck C at February 18, 2025 12:40 PM (D0HYP)
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"Any system which makes it impossible to detect fraud has been set upby democrats precisely to enable fraud."
fify
with, to be fair, "bipartisan support"
fify
with, to be fair, "bipartisan support"
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 18, 2025 12:40 PM (KaBJL)
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So... what counties don't have extradition agreements with the U.S.?
Are their any reliable banking institutions there?
Asking for a friend...
So... what counties don't have extradition agreements with the U.S.?
Are their any reliable banking institutions there?
Asking for a friend...
Posted by: Auspex at February 18, 2025 12:40 PM (j4U/Z)
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174.
Is NASA teaching them to land this time?
Is NASA teaching them to land this time?
Posted by: Sifty Boones at February 18, 2025 12:40 PM (OUgIZ)
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I'm rather fascinated by the fuss being kicked up over 365 million SSA accounts existing.
The idea the problem is within the dataset rather than the larger problem of more numbers in the system than the population of the US is somehow hand waived away.
The idea the problem is within the dataset rather than the larger problem of more numbers in the system than the population of the US is somehow hand waived away.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 18, 2025 12:40 PM (tT6L1)
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Shoe appear to be on other foot now. Republicans issue sternly worded letters last four year, now Dems resort to that. Very good.
Posted by: Charlie Chan at February 18, 2025 12:41 PM (G5+As)
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I saw Illegal Guatemalan Lesbians open for Three Non Blondes at the Palladium. Actually I didn't, Three NonBlondes sucked
Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 18, 2025 12:39 PM (KXtU1)
4 Non Blondes was even worse.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 18, 2025 12:39 PM (KXtU1)
4 Non Blondes was even worse.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 18, 2025 12:41 PM (Zz0t1)
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The most amusing part is that they think anyone cares about these white, liberal lap top class deep state miscreants losing their jobs.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 18, 2025 12:41 PM (t/2Uw)
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101 Illegal Lesbian Guatemalans fleeing a Subaru plant clad in flannel shirts.
sounds like a lot of shirts
sounds like a lot of shirts
Posted by: anachronda at February 18, 2025 12:41 PM (oY6Yp)
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Did you know that there are 11 million illegal aliens in the United States?
Amazingly, twenty years ago there were also 11 million illegal aliens in the United States.
Anybody believe that there has been no increase in the number of illegal aliens over the last twenty years?
Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 18, 2025
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Seems to me we've been hearing that *exact same number* since Reagan's days.
Amazingly, twenty years ago there were also 11 million illegal aliens in the United States.
Anybody believe that there has been no increase in the number of illegal aliens over the last twenty years?
Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 18, 2025
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Seems to me we've been hearing that *exact same number* since Reagan's days.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 18, 2025 12:41 PM (J2vNu)
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MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell explains how Elon Musk, whose only mission in government is to cut payments, has gained control over Social Security and put those payments in jeopardy, proving that President Roosevelt was right when he said, "No damn politician can ever scrap my social security program."
Trump said the US might have less debt than believed. What he was likely thinking about is money the government borrowed over the years from Social Security and Medicare. The Bankrupter-in-Chief is looking at that debt as the government borrowing from itself, and thus the government can just cancel the debt.
It is deferred wages held in trust, and Republican filth have NO right to touch it. It's time to go Scorched Earth on these traitors.
If musk tries this, he won't live long enough to be arrested. 71.6 million is a lot of people, Nazi Boy. Even maggots won't take kindly to having the rug pulled out from under them. Pitchforks can be very effective.
He told his MAGA supporters if they "vote for him, they'll never have to vote again!" He's already effectively acting as a king or potentate, and Congress (including Dems) are rolling over.
Trump said the US might have less debt than believed. What he was likely thinking about is money the government borrowed over the years from Social Security and Medicare. The Bankrupter-in-Chief is looking at that debt as the government borrowing from itself, and thus the government can just cancel the debt.
It is deferred wages held in trust, and Republican filth have NO right to touch it. It's time to go Scorched Earth on these traitors.
If musk tries this, he won't live long enough to be arrested. 71.6 million is a lot of people, Nazi Boy. Even maggots won't take kindly to having the rug pulled out from under them. Pitchforks can be very effective.
He told his MAGA supporters if they "vote for him, they'll never have to vote again!" He's already effectively acting as a king or potentate, and Congress (including Dems) are rolling over.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at February 18, 2025 12:41 PM (JCZqz)
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Amusing discussion on X last night.
Did you know that there are 11 million illegal aliens in the United States?
Amazingly, twenty years ago there were also 11 million illegal aliens in the United States.
Anybody believe that there has been no increase in the number of illegal aliens over the last twenty years?
Posted by: The ARC of History!
Funny, even the lefties admit that 15 million illegals came in over the past two years alone. They must not live very long.
Did you know that there are 11 million illegal aliens in the United States?
Amazingly, twenty years ago there were also 11 million illegal aliens in the United States.
Anybody believe that there has been no increase in the number of illegal aliens over the last twenty years?
Posted by: The ARC of History!
Funny, even the lefties admit that 15 million illegals came in over the past two years alone. They must not live very long.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 18, 2025 12:41 PM (lTGtQ)
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>>>The acting commissioner of the Social Security Administration decided to resign rather than to permit the president's appointed man to look into their books.
Nature is healing.
Nature is healing.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 18, 2025 12:42 PM (i24o9)
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Anybody believe that there has been no increase in the number of illegal aliens over the last twenty years?
Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 18, 2025 12:39 PM (uxCna)
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Marco Rubio, off all people, slapped down that very thing in an MSM interview.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 18, 2025 12:39 PM (uxCna)
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Marco Rubio, off all people, slapped down that very thing in an MSM interview.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 18, 2025 12:42 PM (tT6L1)
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I thought the system was basically legitimate but were nudged at the margins to bring about the nefarious outcomes.
But it isn't that the system is corrupt; corruption is the system.
Today I'm going to join the John Birch Society.
Posted by: Minuteman at February 18, 2025 12:37 PM (+rb8S)
A couple of years ago, while arguing on here, I did a dive into how much of the GDP is controlled (spent) by combined Fed, State, and Local governments.... and every estimate I got was North of 40%.... one valid source said 48%....
The only thing the Government creates, is order.... yeah they pay someone else for a few roads.... but... there is no way you can spend 40%+ on producing nothing, and have it be legitimate spending.
Needless to say, those numbers really opened my eyes.
But it isn't that the system is corrupt; corruption is the system.
Today I'm going to join the John Birch Society.
Posted by: Minuteman at February 18, 2025 12:37 PM (+rb8S)
A couple of years ago, while arguing on here, I did a dive into how much of the GDP is controlled (spent) by combined Fed, State, and Local governments.... and every estimate I got was North of 40%.... one valid source said 48%....
The only thing the Government creates, is order.... yeah they pay someone else for a few roads.... but... there is no way you can spend 40%+ on producing nothing, and have it be legitimate spending.
Needless to say, those numbers really opened my eyes.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 18, 2025 12:42 PM (QAkQ3)
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Exactly where were all those billions budgeted to the DOE going to?
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Like everything else, hookers, blow, lemon parties, sexual harassment civil suits, gimp costumes, etc.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 18, 2025 12:38 PM (XV/Pl)
And CIA black ops. Never forget the CIA black ops.
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Like everything else, hookers, blow, lemon parties, sexual harassment civil suits, gimp costumes, etc.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 18, 2025 12:38 PM (XV/Pl)
And CIA black ops. Never forget the CIA black ops.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2025 12:42 PM (dGCAG)
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IIRC, there is a big difference in how a Fed vs a retired Fed can be pursued legally.
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And that’s all Bullshit, Fake, and Ghey.
Even the lowliest government drone, raises their right hand, even the fucking Mailman takes a sworn oath of office to the constitution.
No federal employee ever gets “sworn out” of office.
As far as the American people are concerned, a government employee is “Under Oath” so long as they draw a breath, in perpetuity. Fired, Retired, OFA, doesn’t matter.
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And that’s all Bullshit, Fake, and Ghey.
Even the lowliest government drone, raises their right hand, even the fucking Mailman takes a sworn oath of office to the constitution.
No federal employee ever gets “sworn out” of office.
As far as the American people are concerned, a government employee is “Under Oath” so long as they draw a breath, in perpetuity. Fired, Retired, OFA, doesn’t matter.
Posted by: Common Tater at February 18, 2025 12:42 PM (ysRdO)
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>>"Ok, keep watching. You're going to find out that those taxes you pay reluctantly, yet diligently every year were going into these people's pockets, and that's how they could afford to hire you so readily. What do you think of that?"
Sounds like she's finally been mugged.
Sounds like she's finally been mugged.
Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2025 12:42 PM (oa1NA)
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I should have worked for an NGO, because I've never been paid huge amounts to do nothing and never got to go to fancy places with all expenses paid under the guise of a conference . The only conference I went to which was paid for were church ones in Ocean City, NJ ( which is a nice town) Atlantic City- which is not and some place in PA.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 18, 2025 12:42 PM (M1QjD)
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Let's apply Sarbanes-Oxley to the Federal Government
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
But, but, but that would ensnare thousands of civil servants~!
When do we start?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
But, but, but that would ensnare thousands of civil servants~!
When do we start?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 18, 2025 12:42 PM (mlg/3)
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IIRC, there is a big difference in how a Fed vs a retired Fed can be pursued legally.
Posted by: Archimedes
I. Don't. Give. A. Shit.
If they stole public money, arrest and prosecute for fraud & theft. If you can't, extra judiciously put them down.
Posted by: Archimedes
I. Don't. Give. A. Shit.
If they stole public money, arrest and prosecute for fraud & theft. If you can't, extra judiciously put them down.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 12:42 PM (jfdO+)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 18, 2025 12:42 PM (uxCna)
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192 I saw Illegal Guatemalan Lesbians open for Three Non Blondes at the Palladium. Actually I didn't, Three NonBlondes sucked
Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 18, 2025 12:39 PM (KXtU1)
4 Non Blondes was even worse.
portable blondes (mobilnie blondinki), on the other hand...
Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 18, 2025 12:39 PM (KXtU1)
4 Non Blondes was even worse.
portable blondes (mobilnie blondinki), on the other hand...
Posted by: anachronda at February 18, 2025 12:42 PM (oY6Yp)
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I would bet tje house many illegals are getting SS. Remember some years ago there were people raking in hundreds of thousands a year in SS fraud
Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2025 12:43 PM (fwDg9)
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Actually I didn't, Three NonBlondes sucked
Posted by: Smell the Glove
Way back when punk was new bad chick bands were a hoot if they were hot.
Posted by: Smell the Glove
Way back when punk was new bad chick bands were a hoot if they were hot.
Posted by: Auspex at February 18, 2025 12:43 PM (j4U/Z)
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“They are making electric cars. Today immigration came and hundreds of people left running, jumping fences”
“Who do not have documents, who do not have legal status in America”
Posted by: SMOD at February 18, 2025 12:18 PM
I was told they were just picking crops and other work Americans just won't do.
Posted by: Josephistan at February 18, 2025 12:21 PM
Dems 1862. Who will pick the cotton?
Dems 2025. Who will pick the lettuce?
“They are making electric cars. Today immigration came and hundreds of people left running, jumping fences”
“Who do not have documents, who do not have legal status in America”
Posted by: SMOD at February 18, 2025 12:18 PM
I was told they were just picking crops and other work Americans just won't do.
Posted by: Josephistan at February 18, 2025 12:21 PM
Dems 1862. Who will pick the cotton?
Dems 2025. Who will pick the lettuce?
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 18, 2025 12:43 PM (ewjUl)
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SSA's extensive database, which contains work histories, banking details
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Or:
How career bureaucrats on average salaries of less than $150k, living in one of the most expensive cost-of-living areas in the nation, somehow are able to afford $1+ million homes and have net worth in the millions of dollars.
This ain't just "where the bodies are buried" it's "How I Robbed and Killed Taxpayers--My Step-by-Step Guide to Bribery, Corruption and Graft."
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Or:
How career bureaucrats on average salaries of less than $150k, living in one of the most expensive cost-of-living areas in the nation, somehow are able to afford $1+ million homes and have net worth in the millions of dollars.
This ain't just "where the bodies are buried" it's "How I Robbed and Killed Taxpayers--My Step-by-Step Guide to Bribery, Corruption and Graft."
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 18, 2025 12:43 PM (fPmw+)
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196 MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell explains how Elon Musk, whose only mission in government is to cut payments, has gained control over Social Security and put those payments in jeopardy, proving that President Roosevelt was right when he said, "No damn politician can ever scrap my social security program."
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions b
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If his only mission was to cut Social Security payments, why did he first cut USAID funding?
It seems like the narrative is shifting. The whole USAID thing just helps Trump.
Now, the media is pimping the idea that SS payments and Medicare reimbursements will disappear.
When they don't? I wonder what that will do to the decaying opinion the American people have towards the media...
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions b
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If his only mission was to cut Social Security payments, why did he first cut USAID funding?
It seems like the narrative is shifting. The whole USAID thing just helps Trump.
Now, the media is pimping the idea that SS payments and Medicare reimbursements will disappear.
When they don't? I wonder what that will do to the decaying opinion the American people have towards the media...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 12:43 PM (GBKbO)
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What we've seen so far out of DOGE is stunning. However I expect something to come out soon which will piss off everyone but the hardcore left. At that point most Dem politicians will cry mercy, and actually try and work with Musk
Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 18, 2025 12:43 PM (KXtU1)
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Judges, everywhere you look, trying to stop governance.
For example, Trump DOJ lawyers are trying to drop the criminal prosecution of Eric Adams in New York, but the judge involved refuses to do so without getting some personal publicity first.
What kind of "judge" does that? A Biden judge, who Wikipedia, no neutral source, says has described himself as "a wild-eyed leftist"...
On January 3, 2022, his nomination was returned to President Biden under Rule XXXI, Paragraph 6 of the United States Senate; he was renominated the same day. On January 20, 2022, the committee failed to report his nomination by an 11–11 vote. On June 14, 2023, the Senate invoked cloture on his nomination by a 50–49 vote. Senator Joe Manchin was the only Democrat to vote against cloture and against confirmation of Ho's nomination, stating Ho was "extreme left" and accusing him of "hateful words" and "partisanship." Later that same day, his nomination was confirmed by a 50–49 vote.
For example, Trump DOJ lawyers are trying to drop the criminal prosecution of Eric Adams in New York, but the judge involved refuses to do so without getting some personal publicity first.
What kind of "judge" does that? A Biden judge, who Wikipedia, no neutral source, says has described himself as "a wild-eyed leftist"...
On January 3, 2022, his nomination was returned to President Biden under Rule XXXI, Paragraph 6 of the United States Senate; he was renominated the same day. On January 20, 2022, the committee failed to report his nomination by an 11–11 vote. On June 14, 2023, the Senate invoked cloture on his nomination by a 50–49 vote. Senator Joe Manchin was the only Democrat to vote against cloture and against confirmation of Ho's nomination, stating Ho was "extreme left" and accusing him of "hateful words" and "partisanship." Later that same day, his nomination was confirmed by a 50–49 vote.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 18, 2025 12:43 PM (7oOMv)
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What's the last significant accomplishment of NASA? When's the last time they launched anything?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 18, 2025 12:40 PM (Zz0t1)
Apollo 17.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 18, 2025 12:40 PM (Zz0t1)
Apollo 17.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2025 12:44 PM (dGCAG)
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182 What's the last significant accomplishment of NASA? When's the last time they launched anything?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 18, 2025 12:40 PM (Zz0t1)
They successfully stranded two astronauts in orbit.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 18, 2025 12:40 PM (Zz0t1)
They successfully stranded two astronauts in orbit.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 18, 2025 12:44 PM (W/lyH)
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One reason I (naively?) don't think SSA is a target for insider fraud is the payments are capped at fairly small amounts. For 2025, the largest monthly benefit that could be paid is $5,108.
Posted by: Oglebay at February 18, 2025 12:44 PM (2ap+5)
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179 When DOGE finally gets around to DoD, I hope right leaners won't suddenly question the purpose of it.
One thing they should start with is looking at how much we spend to maintain bases in Europe, and then recommend we cut 100% of it.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2025 12:39 PM (dGCAG)
Hegseth will be holding the door open to let the team in.... after his morning run.
One thing they should start with is looking at how much we spend to maintain bases in Europe, and then recommend we cut 100% of it.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 18, 2025 12:39 PM (dGCAG)
Hegseth will be holding the door open to let the team in.... after his morning run.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 18, 2025 12:44 PM (QAkQ3)
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@208 that's how much they sucked, I got their name wrong
Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 18, 2025 12:44 PM (KXtU1)
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Just like with drug dealers. Confiscate the property and proceeds from illegal activity.
IOW, assume ownership of the automobile plant.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 12:26 PM (jfdO+)
Yeah. Nobody would possibly point to seizing the means of production and screaming "FASCISM"
IOW, assume ownership of the automobile plant.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 12:26 PM (jfdO+)
Yeah. Nobody would possibly point to seizing the means of production and screaming "FASCISM"
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 18, 2025 12:44 PM (FCbAQ)
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He told his MAGA supporters if they "vote for him, they'll never have to vote again!" He's already effectively acting as a king or potentate, and Congress (including Dems) are rolling over.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at February 18, 2025 12:41 PM (JCZqz)
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Wow, if DU had padded walls, the inmates would be running around like spastic chickens and constantly bouncing off the padding.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at February 18, 2025 12:41 PM (JCZqz)
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Wow, if DU had padded walls, the inmates would be running around like spastic chickens and constantly bouncing off the padding.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 18, 2025 12:44 PM (tT6L1)
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You don't even want to know about 5 NonBlondes.
Posted by: eleven at February 18, 2025 12:45 PM (0HaGk)
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@ 176, actually, there were (if i remember correctly) 12 million back in the 80s for RR's amnesty.
the flimsy lie is laughable, or would be it it weren't a spear pointed at our hearts.
I estimate the number at 30 to 40 million as of today, ymmv.
the flimsy lie is laughable, or would be it it weren't a spear pointed at our hearts.
I estimate the number at 30 to 40 million as of today, ymmv.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 18, 2025 12:45 PM (KaBJL)
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196 If musk tries this, he won't live long enough to be arrested. 71.6 million is a lot of people, Nazi Boy. Even maggots won't take kindly to having the rug pulled out from under them. Pitchforks can be very effective.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at February 18, 2025 12:41 PM (JCZqz)
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Well, if they all donate $1 today, some Democrat crony will be able to afford that new $71 million mansion in New Zealand, at least.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at February 18, 2025 12:41 PM (JCZqz)
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Well, if they all donate $1 today, some Democrat crony will be able to afford that new $71 million mansion in New Zealand, at least.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 12:45 PM (GBKbO)
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FAFSA forms ask for the life story of kids and their parents...everything...
Posted by: Nova Local at February 18, 2025 12:28 PM (exHjb)
Sounds difficult. That’s why at Disinterested’s College for Bad Girls Who Need Discipline, our financial aid form only has two questions:
1) How often do you and your nubile, legal-aged friends have topless pillow fights? A) Most days. B) Every day. C) Multiple times a day.
2) Tie this cherry stem into a knot with your tongue.
Posted by: Nova Local at February 18, 2025 12:28 PM (exHjb)
Sounds difficult. That’s why at Disinterested’s College for Bad Girls Who Need Discipline, our financial aid form only has two questions:
1) How often do you and your nubile, legal-aged friends have topless pillow fights? A) Most days. B) Every day. C) Multiple times a day.
2) Tie this cherry stem into a knot with your tongue.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 18, 2025 12:45 PM (l3YAf)
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I would bet tje house many illegals are getting SS. Remember some years ago there were people raking in hundreds of thousands a year in SS fraud
Posted by: Skip
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I'm at the point where I'm assuming cartel and indian casino involvement. Maybe not even any real people. Just all cash from the government to places it can disappear.
Posted by: Skip
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I'm at the point where I'm assuming cartel and indian casino involvement. Maybe not even any real people. Just all cash from the government to places it can disappear.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Feminism moved women back to unregulated polygamy, forming harems among themselves at February 18, 2025 12:45 PM (sG4Li)
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this is unfathomable, and on top of what the pentagon is hiding
what is that, 5 trillion that we cant account for?
FIVE
TRILLION
its unfathomable, if you stacked that in single dollars, it would reach the moon AND extend about 100,475 miles past it
what is that, 5 trillion that we cant account for?
FIVE
TRILLION
its unfathomable, if you stacked that in single dollars, it would reach the moon AND extend about 100,475 miles past it
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - China is Assho And Void of Freedom Loving Wagshambas at February 18, 2025 12:45 PM (HYKHz)
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I don't know if it's been mentioned here earlier today, but Hamas is releasing the bodies of four hostages on Thursday.
Three of them are the mother and her four year old and nine month old babies.
I don't have words I can use here. 😭😭🤬🤬
Three of them are the mother and her four year old and nine month old babies.
I don't have words I can use here. 😭😭🤬🤬
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2025 12:46 PM (4tmpE)
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19 Hi Ace
Trump has appealed the blocking of his firing of the head of the Soecial Counsel's office to the Supremes. I read so,where that they have called for responses by tomorrow. Anyone else seen this?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)
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Yes. This is a bit arcane but basically the question is whether a) Congress can put limits on a president firing an official that basically does investigations, subpoenas, etc. (aka acting like a district attorney for government personnel actions) that are executive in function. The second is that the TRO issued by the judge was actually unconstitutional in nature because the statutes provide for backpay and reinstatement as a remedy for an unjust firing and NOT a TRO. Irreparable injury cuts both ways and in this case, keeping an official in office risks the President's agenda having problems.
Relevant case law is Humphrey's Executor ( and the later Weiner v. US case in the 50's). Basically under the Humphrey's Executor decision, Congress may limit removal only if the job is primarily judicial or legislative in nature. Acting like a prosecutor is executive, not judicial in nature.
Trump has appealed the blocking of his firing of the head of the Soecial Counsel's office to the Supremes. I read so,where that they have called for responses by tomorrow. Anyone else seen this?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)
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Yes. This is a bit arcane but basically the question is whether a) Congress can put limits on a president firing an official that basically does investigations, subpoenas, etc. (aka acting like a district attorney for government personnel actions) that are executive in function. The second is that the TRO issued by the judge was actually unconstitutional in nature because the statutes provide for backpay and reinstatement as a remedy for an unjust firing and NOT a TRO. Irreparable injury cuts both ways and in this case, keeping an official in office risks the President's agenda having problems.
Relevant case law is Humphrey's Executor ( and the later Weiner v. US case in the 50's). Basically under the Humphrey's Executor decision, Congress may limit removal only if the job is primarily judicial or legislative in nature. Acting like a prosecutor is executive, not judicial in nature.
Posted by: whig at February 18, 2025 12:46 PM (ctrM5)
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portable blondes (mobilnie blondinki), on the other hand...
Posted by: anachronda at February 18, 2025 12:42 PM (oY6Yp)
Sure, they look alright, but it's just Russian autotuned rave crap.
*rolls eyes*
portable blondes (mobilnie blondinki), on the other hand...
Posted by: anachronda at February 18, 2025 12:42 PM (oY6Yp)
Sure, they look alright, but it's just Russian autotuned rave crap.
*rolls eyes*
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 18, 2025 12:46 PM (Zz0t1)
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skylab, but that came down,
Posted by: miguel cervantes at February 18, 2025 12:46 PM (dJR17)
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Time to stop all payments from the US treasury and to set up a robust website to which each person wanting to be paid in the future has to submit evidence of every payment made to them, since 1/20/2009 (the date the Emperor Shit Midas Obama was sworn in) ears, plus documentation proving their entitlement to continued payments.
And I mean EVERYBODY, individual, NGO, whatever, matter how long it takes.
Fuck this bullshit. We're going to find out the vast majority of our $35 trillion national debt was stolen.
And I mean EVERYBODY, individual, NGO, whatever, matter how long it takes.
Fuck this bullshit. We're going to find out the vast majority of our $35 trillion national debt was stolen.
Posted by: Sharkman at February 18, 2025 12:46 PM (BRvvM)
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218 One reason I (naively?) don't think SSA is a target for insider fraud is the payments are capped at fairly small amounts. For 2025, the largest monthly benefit that could be paid is $5,108.
Posted by: Oglebay at February 18, 2025 12:44 PM (2ap+5)
Non citizens CAN, with little documentation, sign up for a Minimal payment of SSA even if they never contributed... its so they can get on Medicare... but... how times do we have multiple recipients at the same house? is it like the voter rolls where suddenly you have 50 people living at a business address?
Enquiring minds want to know.... and it would take a real dive through the data to find out...
Posted by: Oglebay at February 18, 2025 12:44 PM (2ap+5)
Non citizens CAN, with little documentation, sign up for a Minimal payment of SSA even if they never contributed... its so they can get on Medicare... but... how times do we have multiple recipients at the same house? is it like the voter rolls where suddenly you have 50 people living at a business address?
Enquiring minds want to know.... and it would take a real dive through the data to find out...
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 18, 2025 12:47 PM (QAkQ3)
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FAFSA forms ask for the life story of kids and their parents...everything...
Posted by: Nova Local at February 18, 2025 12:28 PM (exHjb)
One thing I've noticed over the years - government forms ask for way more information than the government needs. And they generally ask for information the government already has, often multiple times in the same packet of forms.
Posted by: Nova Local at February 18, 2025 12:28 PM (exHjb)
One thing I've noticed over the years - government forms ask for way more information than the government needs. And they generally ask for information the government already has, often multiple times in the same packet of forms.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 12:47 PM (t0Rmr)
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I said, "Ok, keep watching. You're going to find out that those taxes you pay reluctantly, yet diligently every year were going into these people's pockets, and that's how they could afford to hire you so readily. What do you think of that?" At first she denied that was possible, but by the time she hung up I could hear the wheels turning. Someone is about to switch sides of the aisle.
Posted by: Orson at February 18, 2025 12:39 PM (dIske)
Well done. One at a time.
Posted by: Orson at February 18, 2025 12:39 PM (dIske)
Well done. One at a time.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 18, 2025 12:47 PM (i24o9)
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I think the solution for the Left is to secede from the Union. California should be able to hold all of them.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 18, 2025 12:47 PM (VofaG)
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One reason I (naively?) don't think SSA is a target for insider fraud is the payments are capped at fairly small amounts. For 2025, the largest monthly benefit that could be paid is $5,108.
There are something like 12 or 15 million active SSA accounts for people who are too old to be alive. $5108 times that many is enough money to buy a lot of Congressmen.
There are something like 12 or 15 million active SSA accounts for people who are too old to be alive. $5108 times that many is enough money to buy a lot of Congressmen.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 18, 2025 12:47 PM (2ocoG)
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>>Exactly where were all those billions budgeted to the DOE going to?
"We're going to buy every student in this inner city school district a laptop!"
So we buy 10,000 $400 laptops, but we pay $800 for each one because that's the price the minority women owned small business we ordered them from charges, and we have to meet our DEI procurement requirements.
Then we need to hire four consultants to help with the rollout, and we need training. So all admin in the district goes to a training conference, off-site of course so they can focus. Then we have to hire consultants to do on-site training for all the employees in the district. We have to hire outside IT to setup everything. We have to rewire classrooms, and make sure we hire the correct minority owned businesses to do that. Plus the laptops needs accessories, so we have to procure those. And finally our administrators in the district have worked hard so they get a "training retreat" to celebrate the roll-out, so we have to budget for that.
Now for the software contracts...
And that's how each laptop costs $20,000.
"We're going to buy every student in this inner city school district a laptop!"
So we buy 10,000 $400 laptops, but we pay $800 for each one because that's the price the minority women owned small business we ordered them from charges, and we have to meet our DEI procurement requirements.
Then we need to hire four consultants to help with the rollout, and we need training. So all admin in the district goes to a training conference, off-site of course so they can focus. Then we have to hire consultants to do on-site training for all the employees in the district. We have to hire outside IT to setup everything. We have to rewire classrooms, and make sure we hire the correct minority owned businesses to do that. Plus the laptops needs accessories, so we have to procure those. And finally our administrators in the district have worked hard so they get a "training retreat" to celebrate the roll-out, so we have to budget for that.
Now for the software contracts...
And that's how each laptop costs $20,000.
Posted by: Government math at February 18, 2025 12:47 PM (jGJov)
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Good thing there is a House and Senate financial services committee. Spit
Posted by: Ben Had at February 18, 2025 12:47 PM (mB6WH)
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Exactly where were all those billions budgeted to the DOE going to?
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Like everything else, hookers, blow, lemon parties, sexual harassment civil suits, gimp costumes, etc.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 18, 2025 12:38 PM (XV/Pl)
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Do a FOI request on your local school budget and take a look. Do the same for the State's DOE. Prepare to be pissed off.
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Like everything else, hookers, blow, lemon parties, sexual harassment civil suits, gimp costumes, etc.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 18, 2025 12:38 PM (XV/Pl)
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Do a FOI request on your local school budget and take a look. Do the same for the State's DOE. Prepare to be pissed off.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 18, 2025 12:47 PM (W/lyH)
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But who will pick our lettuce and mow our lawns?
-AWFLs AFL - CIO whining at group therapy (happy hour) while counting potential Union Dues
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Posted by: Kindltot at February 18, 2025 12:47 PM (D7oie)
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Where's that 'It Begins' guy?
@libsoftiktok 3m
BREAKING: An ICE minivan was reportedly set on fire in Philadelphia
@libsoftiktok 3m
BREAKING: An ICE minivan was reportedly set on fire in Philadelphia
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 18, 2025 12:48 PM (mlg/3)
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If musk tries this, he won't live long enough to be arrested. 71.6 million is a lot of people, Nazi Boy. Even maggots won't take kindly to having the rug pulled out from under them. Pitchforks can be very effective.
Seems all threaty. Someone should let the @FBI know about it.
Seems all threaty. Someone should let the @FBI know about it.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 18, 2025 12:48 PM (Zz0t1)
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And that's how each laptop costs $20,000.
Posted by: Government math at February 18, 2025 12:47 PM (jGJov)
And then do it again next year for the new kids.
Posted by: Government math at February 18, 2025 12:47 PM (jGJov)
And then do it again next year for the new kids.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 18, 2025 12:48 PM (W/lyH)
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Not sure if it's been mentioned, but, is anyone offering any bets as to which side of the aisle Michelle King worked for?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 18, 2025 12:48 PM (tT6L1)
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185 NASA just has to change their mission statement. They are still necessary and have done and still do good things. The latest being the Webb telescope.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 18, 2025 12:40 PM (VofaG)
SpaceX could do it at half the time and cost and when it reached orbit, it would have fucking worked.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 18, 2025 12:40 PM (VofaG)
SpaceX could do it at half the time and cost and when it reached orbit, it would have fucking worked.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 18, 2025 12:48 PM (pohLc)
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FAFSA forms ask for the life story of kids and their parents...everything...
Posted by: Nova Local at February 18, 2025 12:28 PM (exHjb)
My kids' high school made filling out FAFSA a graduation requirement. It's such bullshit. We had no intention of applying for any federal aid, and yet, they are just itching to get you to indenture yourself so they can dangle student loan forgiveness and buy votes. That's my conspiracy theory.
Posted by: Nova Local at February 18, 2025 12:28 PM (exHjb)
My kids' high school made filling out FAFSA a graduation requirement. It's such bullshit. We had no intention of applying for any federal aid, and yet, they are just itching to get you to indenture yourself so they can dangle student loan forgiveness and buy votes. That's my conspiracy theory.
Posted by: nogooddeed at February 18, 2025 12:48 PM (4Af9R)
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One reason I (naively?) don't think SSA is a target for insider fraud is the payments are capped at fairly small amounts. For 2025, the largest monthly benefit that could be paid is $5,108.
Posted by: Oglebay at February 18, 2025 12:44 PM (2ap+5)
Eh. I wouldn't have been able to describe the various levels of corruption they've found just in the past month, so who knows how and where the graft is in SSA/I
On the surface I'd agree with you but so much of what happens is below the surface.
I'm now sure that if there is a pile of money in DC waiting to be dispursed, there will be grift graft and corruption on top of the usual waste.
Posted by: Oglebay at February 18, 2025 12:44 PM (2ap+5)
Eh. I wouldn't have been able to describe the various levels of corruption they've found just in the past month, so who knows how and where the graft is in SSA/I
On the surface I'd agree with you but so much of what happens is below the surface.
I'm now sure that if there is a pile of money in DC waiting to be dispursed, there will be grift graft and corruption on top of the usual waste.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 18, 2025 12:48 PM (FCbAQ)
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Every day it just keeps getting better and better watching and hearing what DOGE finds out. 1 million people over 100? LMFAO. When the dust finally settles, I hope it gives Democrat voters a chance to re-evaluate and reflect on what is their party's mission and the impact this fraud, thievery and mismanagment of trillions of dollars has cost society as a whole.
Posted by: Joe at February 18, 2025 12:49 PM (Uy/WF)
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196 MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell explains how Elon Musk, whose only mission in government is to cut payments, has gained control over Social Security and put those payments in jeopardy, proving that President Roosevelt was right when he said, "No damn politician can ever scrap my social security program."
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions
Heh.
The possibility of a self-made billionaire tycoon undoing his precious Social Security program must have FDR spinning in his grave. If he could spin, that is.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions
Heh.
The possibility of a self-made billionaire tycoon undoing his precious Social Security program must have FDR spinning in his grave. If he could spin, that is.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 18, 2025 12:49 PM (lHPJf)
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"Three of them are the mother and her four year old and nine month old babies.
I don't have words I can use here. 😭😭🤬🤬
Posted by: Jane D'oh "
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All Hamas needs to be eliminated.
I don't have words I can use here. 😭😭🤬🤬
Posted by: Jane D'oh "
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All Hamas needs to be eliminated.
Posted by: Cosda at February 18, 2025 12:49 PM (pUqaF)
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You don't even want to know about 5 NonBlondes.
Posted by: eleven at February 18, 2025 12:45 PM (0HaGk)
Four is the number of Non-Blondes. Thou shall not count to three, unless thou then proceed to Four Non Blondes. Five Non Blondes is right out!
The Book of Lilith, 4:3-5
Posted by: eleven at February 18, 2025 12:45 PM (0HaGk)
Four is the number of Non-Blondes. Thou shall not count to three, unless thou then proceed to Four Non Blondes. Five Non Blondes is right out!
The Book of Lilith, 4:3-5
Posted by: Josephistan at February 18, 2025 12:49 PM (y9ksN)
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IIRC, there is a big difference in how a Fed vs a retired Fed can be pursued legally.
Posted by: Archimedes
I. Don't. Give. A. Shit.
If they stole public money, arrest and prosecute for fraud & theft. If you can't, extra judiciously put them down.
The comment wasn't about who should or shouldn't be pursued, only that active Feds are apparently easier to prosecute than retirees. There's a reason so many of them retire right before they're brought up on charges.
Posted by: Archimedes
I. Don't. Give. A. Shit.
If they stole public money, arrest and prosecute for fraud & theft. If you can't, extra judiciously put them down.
The comment wasn't about who should or shouldn't be pursued, only that active Feds are apparently easier to prosecute than retirees. There's a reason so many of them retire right before they're brought up on charges.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 18, 2025 12:49 PM (xCA6C)
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Good thing there is a House and Senate financial services committee. Spit
Posted by: Ben Had at February 18, 2025 12:47 PM (mB6WH)
They monitor the slush fund that pays hush money and lawyers drafting NDA's for sexual assault victims of US Congressmembers.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 18, 2025 12:47 PM (mB6WH)
They monitor the slush fund that pays hush money and lawyers drafting NDA's for sexual assault victims of US Congressmembers.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 18, 2025 12:50 PM (Zz0t1)
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59 I would pay money to watch illegals flee over high fences.
Pay extra with some yakkity sax.
Posted by: puhleaze at February 18, 2025 12:25 PM (bbuBP)
Workers high-tailing it over the fences when ICE shows up should be considered (prima facie?) evidence the employer was hiring illegals and severe penalties should accrue the executives with jail time mandatory.
Pay extra with some yakkity sax.
Posted by: puhleaze at February 18, 2025 12:25 PM (bbuBP)
Workers high-tailing it over the fences when ICE shows up should be considered (prima facie?) evidence the employer was hiring illegals and severe penalties should accrue the executives with jail time mandatory.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at February 18, 2025 12:50 PM (QGaXH)
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Whoopi Goldberg says DOGE should cut funding to SpaceX because the U.S. government already has NASA.
Posted by: SMOD at February 18, 2025 12:50 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: wth at February 18, 2025 12:50 PM (v0R5T)
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Going after employers is the best solution,
You can lose a prosecution. You can't lose the cost and inconvenience of an ICE raid on the company or the workers.
You can lose a prosecution. You can't lose the cost and inconvenience of an ICE raid on the company or the workers.
Posted by: DaveA at February 18, 2025 12:50 PM (FhXTo)
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223 You don't even want to know about 5 NonBlondes.
Posted by: eleven at February 18, 2025 12:45 PM (0HaGk)
THERE! ARE! FOUR! NON! BLONDES!!!
Posted by: eleven at February 18, 2025 12:45 PM (0HaGk)
THERE! ARE! FOUR! NON! BLONDES!!!
Posted by: Capt. Jean-Luc Picard at February 18, 2025 12:50 PM (LxER7)
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218 One reason I (naively?) don't think SSA is a target for insider fraud is the payments are capped at fairly small amounts. For 2025, the largest monthly benefit that could be paid is $5,108.
Posted by: Oglebay
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Prior low level SSA officials were caught using survivor benefits for fraud. E.g. as kids drawing off a deceased SSA recipient. But, if you add up all the Social Security numbers that are active, you get approximately 398 million people when the US is only supposed to have 335 million or so. That means a lot of fraud is potential there from old age recipients that do not exist in the millions and from fake survivor and illegals using SSA numbers (ineligible).
One official mentions foreign fraud rings are involved because SSA did not do any purging nor investigations of fraud (becuz politics, and personal benefits is my guess).
Posted by: Oglebay
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Prior low level SSA officials were caught using survivor benefits for fraud. E.g. as kids drawing off a deceased SSA recipient. But, if you add up all the Social Security numbers that are active, you get approximately 398 million people when the US is only supposed to have 335 million or so. That means a lot of fraud is potential there from old age recipients that do not exist in the millions and from fake survivor and illegals using SSA numbers (ineligible).
One official mentions foreign fraud rings are involved because SSA did not do any purging nor investigations of fraud (becuz politics, and personal benefits is my guess).
Posted by: whig at February 18, 2025 12:51 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Auspex at February 18, 2025 12:51 PM (j4U/Z)
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253 You don't even want to know about 5 NonBlondes.
Posted by: eleven at February 18, 2025 12:45 PM (0HaGk)
Four is the number of Non-Blondes. Thou shall not count to three, unless thou then proceed to Four Non Blondes. Five Non Blondes is right out!
The Book of Lilith, 4:3-5
Posted by: Josephistan at February 18, 2025 12:49 PM (y9ksN)
Disambiguation would be appreciated.
Posted by: eleven at February 18, 2025 12:45 PM (0HaGk)
Four is the number of Non-Blondes. Thou shall not count to three, unless thou then proceed to Four Non Blondes. Five Non Blondes is right out!
The Book of Lilith, 4:3-5
Posted by: Josephistan at February 18, 2025 12:49 PM (y9ksN)
Disambiguation would be appreciated.
Posted by: Dr. Lilith Sternin at February 18, 2025 12:51 PM (PiwSw)
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@233
>>We're going to find out the vast majority of our $35 trillion national debt was stolen.
The vast majority of our debt is simply digital paper shuffling, it's verisimilar, like the female g-spot.
>>We're going to find out the vast majority of our $35 trillion national debt was stolen.
The vast majority of our debt is simply digital paper shuffling, it's verisimilar, like the female g-spot.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 18, 2025 12:51 PM (XV/Pl)
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As if NYS was enough of a clusterf**k now prison guards are striking. It's technically illegal but after a couple of takeovers recently, the guards union is screaming about understaffing. Wouldn't be surprised if members of our Marxist legislature begin calling for all prisons to be closed
Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 18, 2025 12:51 PM (KXtU1)
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Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 18, 2025 12:48 PM (pohLc)
Maybe they could have launched it but they couldn't have built it.
Maybe they could have launched it but they couldn't have built it.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 18, 2025 12:51 PM (VofaG)
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I think I can imagine the possibility of government living within their means, but it won't be during this administration or the next. But if most of Americans wake up and see the government is corrupt it could happen.
Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2025 12:52 PM (fwDg9)
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261 Prior low level SSA officials were caught using survivor benefits for fraud. E.g. as kids drawing off a deceased SSA recipient. But, if you add up all the Social Security numbers that are active, you get approximately 398 million people when the US is only supposed to have 335 million or so. That means a lot of fraud is potential there from old age recipients that do not exist in the millions and from fake survivor and illegals using SSA numbers (ineligible).
One official mentions foreign fraud rings are involved because SSA did not do any purging nor investigations of fraud (becuz politics, and personal benefits is my guess).
Posted by: whig at February 18, 2025 12:51 PM (ctrM5)
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And this doesn't even include the idea of duplicate SSNs.
Which the system is designed to allow.
One official mentions foreign fraud rings are involved because SSA did not do any purging nor investigations of fraud (becuz politics, and personal benefits is my guess).
Posted by: whig at February 18, 2025 12:51 PM (ctrM5)
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And this doesn't even include the idea of duplicate SSNs.
Which the system is designed to allow.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 12:52 PM (GBKbO)
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I think the solution for the Left is to secede from the Union. California should be able to hold all of them.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 18, 2025 12:47 PM (VofaG)
Canada has floated the possibility of California, Oregon, and Washington joining the country. Maybe we could do a trade for Alberta.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 18, 2025 12:47 PM (VofaG)
Canada has floated the possibility of California, Oregon, and Washington joining the country. Maybe we could do a trade for Alberta.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 18, 2025 12:52 PM (lHPJf)
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I think the solution for the Left is to secede from the Union. California should be able to hold all of them.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 18, 2025 12:47 PM (VofaG)
Commies get nothing.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 18, 2025 12:47 PM (VofaG)
Commies get nothing.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 18, 2025 12:52 PM (i24o9)
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Funny, even the lefties admit that 15 million illegals came in over the past two years alone. They must not live very long.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 18, 2025 12:41 PM (lTGtQ)
They must be like vegan kittens, they just don't last as long as people would like
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 18, 2025 12:41 PM (lTGtQ)
They must be like vegan kittens, they just don't last as long as people would like
Posted by: Sarah Olivia Cuthbert-Kline at February 18, 2025 12:52 PM (D7oie)
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>>We're going to find out the vast majority of our $35 trillion national debt was stolen.
Biden and co exploding the budget by 4X while the government essentially stopped providing all the services it traditionally did should have been a clue.
Biden and co exploding the budget by 4X while the government essentially stopped providing all the services it traditionally did should have been a clue.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 12:52 PM (t0Rmr)
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Maybe they could have launched it but they couldn't have built it.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 18, 2025 12:51 PM (VofaG)
Right. Uber successful rocket scientists could never build a telescope.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 18, 2025 12:51 PM (VofaG)
Right. Uber successful rocket scientists could never build a telescope.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 18, 2025 12:53 PM (pohLc)
Posted by: SMOD at February 18, 2025 12:53 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 18, 2025 12:53 PM (aOqEy)
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Some Dems already turning on Hogg two weeks into DNC vice chair gig.
.. NO BACKIES
Posted by: SMOD at February 18, 2025 12:53 PM (RHGPo)
Because he's using their funder lists to raise money for his OWN PAC. They don't like their funds being f*cked with.
.. NO BACKIES
Posted by: SMOD at February 18, 2025 12:53 PM (RHGPo)
Because he's using their funder lists to raise money for his OWN PAC. They don't like their funds being f*cked with.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 18, 2025 12:54 PM (Zz0t1)
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One reason I (naively?) don't think SSA is a target for insider fraud is the payments are capped at fairly small amounts. For 2025, the largest monthly benefit that could be paid is $5,108.
Posted by: Oglebay at February 18, 2025 12:44 PM (2ap+5)
You’re assuming SSA only pays out benefits to individuals. They have 60k employees and a budget of $15.4 billion. They have DEI programs.
Posted by: Oglebay at February 18, 2025 12:44 PM (2ap+5)
You’re assuming SSA only pays out benefits to individuals. They have 60k employees and a budget of $15.4 billion. They have DEI programs.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 18, 2025 12:54 PM (l3YAf)
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El gato malo has a must read essay today.
It's not republican v. Democrat.
Not deep state v citizen.
It's Criminal v. Victim.
Time to change the mindset to accept the mind blowing reality of what is about to be revealed.
It's not republican v. Democrat.
Not deep state v citizen.
It's Criminal v. Victim.
Time to change the mindset to accept the mind blowing reality of what is about to be revealed.
Posted by: Derak at February 18, 2025 12:54 PM (vJjWs)
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4.7 trillion ... so, one-seventh or one-eighth of the total debt, rly?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 18, 2025 12:54 PM (KaBJL)
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Note unaccountable money has been baked into the government since WW2 if not before.
Untraceable money is what allowed the CIA to metastasize and grow even after Truman cut funding for it.
Untraceable money is what allowed the CIA to metastasize and grow even after Truman cut funding for it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 18, 2025 12:55 PM (xcxpd)
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I bet the landscaping at the Hyundai plant is really amazing.
Posted by: Weasel
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and the cafeteria has the best empanadas.
I bet the landscaping at the Hyundai plant is really amazing.
Posted by: Weasel
......
and the cafeteria has the best empanadas.
Posted by: wth at February 18, 2025 12:55 PM (v0R5T)
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I like Hogg as head of DNC for LIFE.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 18, 2025 12:55 PM (pohLc)
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All Hamas needs to be eliminated.
Posted by: Cosda at February 18, 2025 12:49 PM (pUqaF)
With napalm.
Posted by: Cosda at February 18, 2025 12:49 PM (pUqaF)
With napalm.
Posted by: Dr. T at February 18, 2025 12:55 PM (lHPJf)
Posted by: geewhiz at February 18, 2025 12:55 PM (65K9+)
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Fraud at Treasury?
Next you’re going to tell me that there was a Nigerian immigrant as the #2 person in charge, just under Janet Yellen!
Narrator:There was, in fact, a Nigerian former Obama For America staffer as #2 in charge at Treasury.
Next you’re going to tell me that there was a Nigerian immigrant as the #2 person in charge, just under Janet Yellen!
Narrator:There was, in fact, a Nigerian former Obama For America staffer as #2 in charge at Treasury.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 18, 2025 12:55 PM (Hkcdp)
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if Trump/Vance/Musk manages to eliminate the deficit and place in a debt repayment plan we need to sculp their faces onto Mt McKinley and name the next few planets after them
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - China is Assho And Void of Freedom Loving Wagshambas at February 18, 2025 12:55 PM (HYKHz)
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Wow, if DU had padded walls, the inmates would be running around like spastic chickens and constantly bouncing off the padding.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 18, 2025
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If we still had insane asylums, manufacturers of straitjackets would be buying second and third homes.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 18, 2025
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If we still had insane asylums, manufacturers of straitjackets would be buying second and third homes.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 18, 2025 12:55 PM (J2vNu)
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There is also a yuge difference in Congresses ability to get you to testify, between a 'retired' Fed worker, and an active Fed worker.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 18, 2025 12:33 PM (QAkQ3)
President Trump has signed an EO authorizing the use of agonizers to 'encourage' cooperation.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 18, 2025 12:33 PM (QAkQ3)
President Trump has signed an EO authorizing the use of agonizers to 'encourage' cooperation.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 12:55 PM (ExV1e)
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I think that would be interesting to find out if the people receiving federally backed loans are actually students though.
Student loans are disbursed through whatever school the debtor attends, and the school takes out whatever amount is due for tuition and fees before releasing any remainder to the student.
The remainder could conceivably be used for somebody's business, instead of for the student's living expense and school supplies. But you're never going to get the full amount for whatever side hustle you've got going.
Even dropping out before 10th day so that you get a refund on the tuition you paid (assuming that it doesn't go straight back to the DOE) isn't going to work more than about twice. The university's going to tell you to make up your mind and come back when you're sure you actually want to attend.
Student loans are disbursed through whatever school the debtor attends, and the school takes out whatever amount is due for tuition and fees before releasing any remainder to the student.
The remainder could conceivably be used for somebody's business, instead of for the student's living expense and school supplies. But you're never going to get the full amount for whatever side hustle you've got going.
Even dropping out before 10th day so that you get a refund on the tuition you paid (assuming that it doesn't go straight back to the DOE) isn't going to work more than about twice. The university's going to tell you to make up your mind and come back when you're sure you actually want to attend.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at February 18, 2025 12:55 PM (hB7mE)
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Tom disappeared and it took me hours to find him. He snuck into the vacant downstairs apartment. That gave me a fright. Curious cats are so skilled at finding trouble.
Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at February 18, 2025 12:56 PM (5xgzq)
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These purloined treasury funds drying up are likely to put the hurt into an already wounded economy but that should REDUCE inflation.
Posted by: torabora at February 18, 2025 12:56 PM (l7Hjh)
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@275
>>Before long you're talking about some real money.
Technically, money doesn't exist.
Like, when you make a credit card transaction, there isn't some scrooge mcduck that sends a bag of cash to the creditor.
It's an all digital transaction, it's ones and zeros, like The Matrix.
>>Before long you're talking about some real money.
Technically, money doesn't exist.
Like, when you make a credit card transaction, there isn't some scrooge mcduck that sends a bag of cash to the creditor.
It's an all digital transaction, it's ones and zeros, like The Matrix.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 18, 2025 12:56 PM (XV/Pl)
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To the extent there is fraud at SSA, it's more likely to be program participants committing the crimes, not SSA itself
I don't know. If I had write-access to the SSA database I'm pretty sure I could by the end of today set up something almost as good as "sitting on a beach, earning 20 percent"
I don't know. If I had write-access to the SSA database I'm pretty sure I could by the end of today set up something almost as good as "sitting on a beach, earning 20 percent"
Posted by: Chuck C at February 18, 2025 12:56 PM (D0HYP)
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If we still had insane asylums, manufacturers of straitjackets would be buying second and third homes.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 18, 2025 12:55 PM (J2vNu)
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MASA - Make America Sane Again!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 18, 2025 12:55 PM (J2vNu)
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MASA - Make America Sane Again!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 18, 2025 12:57 PM (tT6L1)
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It essentially established the "independence" of the FCC. The ruling on it expanded over time to include other agencies, but it's been culled back by SCOTUS steadily over the last few years.
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Consider, by 2028, Trump will have:
1) ended Roe v. Wade
2) ended the Chevron Doctrine
3) expanded the "unitary executive" doctrine (in-progress, as above)
4) and, coming soon, ended the delegation doctrine; not just in rule-making under Chevron, but also in spending; like, there not only has to be specific Congressional authorization, but also that there has to be clear Constitutional authority--for the end-product of the spending.
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Consider, by 2028, Trump will have:
1) ended Roe v. Wade
2) ended the Chevron Doctrine
3) expanded the "unitary executive" doctrine (in-progress, as above)
4) and, coming soon, ended the delegation doctrine; not just in rule-making under Chevron, but also in spending; like, there not only has to be specific Congressional authorization, but also that there has to be clear Constitutional authority--for the end-product of the spending.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 18, 2025 12:57 PM (fPmw+)
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I think the solution for the Left is to secede from the Union. California should be able to hold all of them.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 18, 2025 12:47 PM (VofaG)
Commies get nothing.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformat divorce, id be willing to give up the house just to rid myself ion Demon at February 18, 2025 12:52 PM (i24o9)
Just like a contentious divorce id be willing to give up the house just to rid myself of the continuous drama for good.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 18, 2025 12:47 PM (VofaG)
Commies get nothing.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformat divorce, id be willing to give up the house just to rid myself ion Demon at February 18, 2025 12:52 PM (i24o9)
Just like a contentious divorce id be willing to give up the house just to rid myself of the continuous drama for good.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 18, 2025 12:57 PM (VofaG)
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293 To the extent there is fraud at SSA, it's more likely to be program participants committing the crimes, not SSA itself
I don't know. If I had write-access to the SSA database I'm pretty sure I could by the end of today set up something almost as good as "sitting on a beach, earning 20 percent"
Posted by: Chuck C at February 18, 2025 12:56 PM (D0HYP)
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Listen, it's not like the SSA has been run like an independent agency with unlimited money and no oversight for decades that would foster an environment of illegality in even the lowest of members.
I don't know. If I had write-access to the SSA database I'm pretty sure I could by the end of today set up something almost as good as "sitting on a beach, earning 20 percent"
Posted by: Chuck C at February 18, 2025 12:56 PM (D0HYP)
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Listen, it's not like the SSA has been run like an independent agency with unlimited money and no oversight for decades that would foster an environment of illegality in even the lowest of members.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 12:57 PM (GBKbO)
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Non citizens CAN, with little documentation, sign up for a Minimal payment of SSA even if they never contributed... its so they can get on Medicare... but... how times do we have multiple recipients at the same house? is it like the voter rolls where suddenly you have 50 people living at a business address?
Enquiring minds want to know.... and it would take a real dive through the data to find out...
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 18, 2025 12:47 PM (QAkQ3)
If you have 20 fake accounts, each receiving $200 per month, that's $4000 per month.
Enquiring minds want to know.... and it would take a real dive through the data to find out...
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 18, 2025 12:47 PM (QAkQ3)
If you have 20 fake accounts, each receiving $200 per month, that's $4000 per month.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 18, 2025 12:57 PM (8zz6B)
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91 >>Why would the DOE have personal student information?
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Loans.
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It would be interesting to find out how many 10 year Bachelor degree seeking students we are funding.
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Loans.
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It would be interesting to find out how many 10 year Bachelor degree seeking students we are funding.
Posted by: Pudinhead at February 18, 2025 12:57 PM (pLaQB)
300
I am now inclined to believe reports of global warming, at least in the swamps of DC, since there is so much CLEANSING FIRE under way...
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at February 18, 2025 12:57 PM (gEjVe)
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59 I would pay money to watch illegals flee over high electric fences.
Pay extra with some yakkity sax.
Posted by: puhleaze
minor addendum
Pay extra with some yakkity sax.
Posted by: puhleaze
minor addendum
Posted by: wth at February 18, 2025 12:57 PM (v0R5T)
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"I don't know. If I had write-access to the SSA database I'm pretty sure I could by the end of today set up something almost as good as "sitting on a beach, earning 20 percent""
As long as you know COBOL, you're golden.
As long as you know COBOL, you're golden.
Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at February 18, 2025 12:57 PM (5xgzq)
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Defund NASA. SpaceX gets results, NASA, not so much.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 18, 2025 12:35 PM (pohLc)
I believe NASA still does basic science stuff. Deep space probes and telescopes and such.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 18, 2025 12:35 PM (pohLc)
I believe NASA still does basic science stuff. Deep space probes and telescopes and such.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 12:57 PM (ExV1e)
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if Trump/Vance/Musk manages to eliminate the deficit and place in a debt repayment plan we need to sculp their faces onto Mt McKinley and name the next few planets after them
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - China is Assho And Void of Freedom Loving Wagshambas at February 18, 2025
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If we find a trans-Plutonian planet out there, "Trumpius" would be a fitting name. And "Vance" for a moon, if it has one!
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - China is Assho And Void of Freedom Loving Wagshambas at February 18, 2025
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If we find a trans-Plutonian planet out there, "Trumpius" would be a fitting name. And "Vance" for a moon, if it has one!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 18, 2025 12:58 PM (J2vNu)
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The possibility of a self-made billionaire tycoon undoing his precious Social Security program must have FDR spinning in his grave. If he could spin, that is.
Posted by: Dr. T
If by 'spin' you mean being rotated over a white hot barbecue in Hell for nearly 80 years, mission accomplished.
Posted by: Dr. T
If by 'spin' you mean being rotated over a white hot barbecue in Hell for nearly 80 years, mission accomplished.
Posted by: Auspex at February 18, 2025 12:58 PM (j4U/Z)
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"DOGE discovered that $4.7 TRILLION of Treasury payments lack any kind of notation for what the payment is actually for, making them almost impossible to trace and verify."
Perfect if you are funding Darker Projects, the Breakaway Civilization, Whatever those hundreds or thousands of workers in Antarctica are actually doing... a lot easier to do it this way than running drugs in to various countries or human trafficking.
Perfect if you are funding Darker Projects, the Breakaway Civilization, Whatever those hundreds or thousands of workers in Antarctica are actually doing... a lot easier to do it this way than running drugs in to various countries or human trafficking.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at February 18, 2025 12:58 PM (TGPs7)
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295 Consider, by 2028, Trump will have:
1) ended Roe v. Wade
2) ended the Chevron Doctrine
3) expanded the "unitary executive" doctrine (in-progress, as above)
4) and, coming soon, ended the delegation doctrine; not just in rule-making under Chevron, but also in spending; like, there not only has to be specific Congressional authorization, but also that there has to be clear Constitutional authority--for the end-product of the spending.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 18, 2025 12:57 PM (fPmw+)
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The left is making it out like Trump wants to make himself king.
He just wants the American people to actually have a say in how the executive branch is run. He wants Congress to write clear laws.
He's an insurrectionist.
1) ended Roe v. Wade
2) ended the Chevron Doctrine
3) expanded the "unitary executive" doctrine (in-progress, as above)
4) and, coming soon, ended the delegation doctrine; not just in rule-making under Chevron, but also in spending; like, there not only has to be specific Congressional authorization, but also that there has to be clear Constitutional authority--for the end-product of the spending.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 18, 2025 12:57 PM (fPmw+)
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The left is making it out like Trump wants to make himself king.
He just wants the American people to actually have a say in how the executive branch is run. He wants Congress to write clear laws.
He's an insurrectionist.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 12:58 PM (GBKbO)
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Leaving the union has been tried, it won't work.
No more than if rolls were reversed and we tried to get away from the Marxists
No more than if rolls were reversed and we tried to get away from the Marxists
Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2025 12:58 PM (fwDg9)
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As long as you know COBOL, you're golden.
Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at February 18, 2025
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Fifteen thousand MOVE statements later . . .
Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at February 18, 2025
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Fifteen thousand MOVE statements later . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 18, 2025 12:59 PM (J2vNu)
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I would find DNC committee meetings entertaining. 4 hours of stupidity and insanity followed by singing and forming a conga line behind Hogg for the grand finale.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 18, 2025 12:59 PM (pohLc)
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And this doesn't even include the idea of duplicate SSNs.
Which the system is designed to allow.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Yep. Among other things. I strongly suggest anyone create their own online SSA dot gov account. You can order a new Social Security card, check your earnings history, etc. plus other dealings. Requires a login.gov authenticator app but both are free to obtain. The login.gov app also has other agencies that use it as well including the DoE student loans, etc.
Which the system is designed to allow.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Yep. Among other things. I strongly suggest anyone create their own online SSA dot gov account. You can order a new Social Security card, check your earnings history, etc. plus other dealings. Requires a login.gov authenticator app but both are free to obtain. The login.gov app also has other agencies that use it as well including the DoE student loans, etc.
Posted by: whig at February 18, 2025 12:59 PM (ctrM5)
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Lying, stealing, and cheating feral bureaucrats refuse to let evidence be examined much less used against them.
The democrat party is a criminal organization.
The democrat party is a criminal organization.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at February 18, 2025 01:00 PM (17s+e)
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I'm pretty sure Social Security depends on people either reporting on the death of a loved one or the funeral home properly reporting things.
It isn't that hard to game a system if the reporting system depends on the basic honesty of people.
I can see cartels kicking SSA money back to funeral homes they control, for example.
It isn't that hard to game a system if the reporting system depends on the basic honesty of people.
I can see cartels kicking SSA money back to funeral homes they control, for example.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 18, 2025 01:00 PM (tT6L1)
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One official mentions foreign fraud rings are involved because SSA did not do any purging nor investigations of fraud (becuz politics, and personal benefits is my guess).
Posted by: whig at February 18, 2025 12:51 PM (ctrM5)
Now imagine skimming $20 off of every check. Or just every check from West Virginia.
Posted by: whig at February 18, 2025 12:51 PM (ctrM5)
Now imagine skimming $20 off of every check. Or just every check from West Virginia.
Posted by: Kindltot at February 18, 2025 01:00 PM (D7oie)
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Just like a contentious divorce id be willing to give up the house just to rid myself of the continuous drama for good.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 18, 2025 12:57 PM (VofaG)
I understand the sentiment.
The can has been kicked down the road far too long. I don't want my kids to have to do what I am willing and able to do now. That is all.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 18, 2025 12:57 PM (VofaG)
I understand the sentiment.
The can has been kicked down the road far too long. I don't want my kids to have to do what I am willing and able to do now. That is all.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 18, 2025 01:00 PM (i24o9)
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Think of the poor taco truck owner in Georgia that serves the Hyundai plant at lunchtime. He's gonna be stuck with thousands of aging tacos. Can we get him a government stipend to cover the loss?
Posted by: Oh, The Huge Manatee! at February 18, 2025 01:00 PM (G5+As)
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309 They probably still use IMS or some other ancient DBMS.
Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at February 18, 2025 01:00 PM (5xgzq)
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"Fuck this bullshit. We're going to find out the vast majority of our $35 trillion national debt was stolen.
Posted by: Sharkman at February 18, 2025 12:46 PM (BRvvM) "
THIS!
Posted by: Sharkman at February 18, 2025 12:46 PM (BRvvM) "
THIS!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 18, 2025 01:00 PM (KaBJL)
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A fellow could have a nice weekend in Vegas with that.
Posted by: Mel Brooks Employee of the flic. at February 18, 2025 12:36 PM (FhXTo)
Nice twist.
Posted by: Mel Brooks Employee of the flic. at February 18, 2025 12:36 PM (FhXTo)
Nice twist.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 01:00 PM (ExV1e)
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Wow, in another lawsuit a Judge slapped down, Fed Workers tried to argue that giving access to DOGE and the Prezzy, so they could use the Gov wide email system, somehow invaded their privacy.
They are just throwing shit at the wall, hoping something sticks, to get a headline.
They are just throwing shit at the wall, hoping something sticks, to get a headline.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 18, 2025 01:01 PM (QAkQ3)
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🔥🔥🔥Breaking! A whistleblower came forward early during the first Trump admin. Refugees were flown in at night and given SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS and PASSPORTS and were completely non-vetted. Staffers were then told to push them onto social security disability all while Americans were being denied!
This is why there are so many Social Security numbers in use, this has been going on for a very long time. If you have a social security number, it also makes voting a whole lot more easier too!
Syrians were even admitted during the Trump 7 country Muslim ban which included Syria.
The United Nations operated refugee resettlement thru Missouri Social Services. And I’m certain many other states were involved too. This started around October 2016.
They also bypassed state sovereignty by using Wilson-Fish if a states governor wouldn’t accept illegal aliens.
https://x.com/pepesgrandma/status/1891577250169958502
This is why there are so many Social Security numbers in use, this has been going on for a very long time. If you have a social security number, it also makes voting a whole lot more easier too!
Syrians were even admitted during the Trump 7 country Muslim ban which included Syria.
The United Nations operated refugee resettlement thru Missouri Social Services. And I’m certain many other states were involved too. This started around October 2016.
They also bypassed state sovereignty by using Wilson-Fish if a states governor wouldn’t accept illegal aliens.
https://x.com/pepesgrandma/status/1891577250169958502
Posted by: SMOD at February 18, 2025 01:01 PM (RHGPo)
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If you simply stopped the payment to duplicate SSN's, you would probably save around 250B dollars.
That could buy a lot of pudding.
That could buy a lot of pudding.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 18, 2025 01:01 PM (XV/Pl)
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316 Think of the poor taco truck owner in Georgia that serves the Hyundai plant at lunchtime. He's gonna be stuck with thousands of aging tacos. Can we get him a government stipend to cover the loss?
Posted by: Oh, The Huge Manatee! at February 18, 2025 01:00 PM (G5+As)
Sumbitch smoked the tires on his taco truck outta there when ICE showed up.
Posted by: Oh, The Huge Manatee! at February 18, 2025 01:00 PM (G5+As)
Sumbitch smoked the tires on his taco truck outta there when ICE showed up.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 18, 2025 01:02 PM (pohLc)
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One reason I (naively?) don't think SSA is a target for insider fraud is the payments are capped at fairly small amounts. For 2025, the largest monthly benefit that could be paid is $5,108.
Posted by: Oglebay
That's a month. Every month. Direct deposited to someone, Somewhere.
SS Payments
Age:
100 -109 4,734,000 people $5k/month x 4mil = $20b/month
Now do monthly:
Age:110 - 119 3,627,000 people
Age:120 - 129 3,472,000 people
Age:130 - 139 3,542,000 people
Posted by: Oglebay
That's a month. Every month. Direct deposited to someone, Somewhere.
SS Payments
Age:
100 -109 4,734,000 people $5k/month x 4mil = $20b/month
Now do monthly:
Age:110 - 119 3,627,000 people
Age:120 - 129 3,472,000 people
Age:130 - 139 3,542,000 people
Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2025 01:02 PM (jfdO+)
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California Community Colleges are free tuition. If poor enough books are paid through a Foundation.
So Federal Pell grants are cash to help with housing and food (yes they can get food stamps).
Unfortunately because the Pell Grant is disbursed twice a year many 'students ' vanish after they get the first tranche. It's not a great deal of money but it's enough for people with drug habits to ghost the system. The few ruin it for the many.
So Federal Pell grants are cash to help with housing and food (yes they can get food stamps).
Unfortunately because the Pell Grant is disbursed twice a year many 'students ' vanish after they get the first tranche. It's not a great deal of money but it's enough for people with drug habits to ghost the system. The few ruin it for the many.
Posted by: torabora at February 18, 2025 01:02 PM (l7Hjh)
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 18, 2025 01:02 PM (l3YAf)
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Wall Street Apes
@WallStreetApes
Auto worker in Georgia at the Hyundai electric car plant
He’s reporting ICE just showed up and HUNDREDS of illegal workers ran away. Hyundai is employing HUNDREDS OF ILLEGAL WORKERS at their plants
He says “80-90%” of the group he works with are illegal Venezuelans
“They are making electric cars. Today immigration came and hundreds of people left running, jumping fences”
“Who do not have documents, who do not have legal status in America”
Wall Street Apes
@WallStreetApes
Auto worker in Georgia at the Hyundai electric car plant
He’s reporting ICE just showed up and HUNDREDS of illegal workers ran away. Hyundai is employing HUNDREDS OF ILLEGAL WORKERS at their plants
He says “80-90%” of the group he works with are illegal Venezuelans
“They are making electric cars. Today immigration came and hundreds of people left running, jumping fences”
“Who do not have documents, who do not have legal status in America”
Posted by: Mister Ghost at February 18, 2025 01:03 PM (TGPs7)
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They are just throwing shit at the wall, hoping something sticks, to get a headline.
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they literally are, to the point that even leftist judges are balking at the fucking stupidity of it
Im surprised too, I figured no bar was too low for these asshole judgefucks to stop big meanie hitlertrumpmusk
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they literally are, to the point that even leftist judges are balking at the fucking stupidity of it
Im surprised too, I figured no bar was too low for these asshole judgefucks to stop big meanie hitlertrumpmusk
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - China is Assho And Void of Freedom Loving Wagshambas at February 18, 2025 01:03 PM (HYKHz)
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Larry Correia just posted an entertaining educational post on audits on his blog
Monster Hunter Nation
Monster Hunter Nation
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at February 18, 2025 01:03 PM (WIRXc)
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What are they hiding at the Dept of Education?
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Student loan bailouts that lack even the fig leaf of Biden's authorization.
Like, pretty much every NGO and government drone getting a "forgiveness"
When is the last time you heard a teacher worried about paying off their student loan?
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Student loan bailouts that lack even the fig leaf of Biden's authorization.
Like, pretty much every NGO and government drone getting a "forgiveness"
When is the last time you heard a teacher worried about paying off their student loan?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 18, 2025 01:04 PM (fPmw+)
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They probably still use IMS or some other ancient DBMS.
Posted by: Peel gp A Grape
It wasn't too long ago that the reservation systems for airlines used IMS DB/DC as their primary DB. Some major banks and financial companies did too.
The damn thing worked for a long time.
Posted by: Peel gp A Grape
It wasn't too long ago that the reservation systems for airlines used IMS DB/DC as their primary DB. Some major banks and financial companies did too.
The damn thing worked for a long time.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 18, 2025 01:04 PM (WXNFJ)
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Where will we get our electric Hyundais from?
Posted by: eleven at February 18, 2025 01:05 PM (0HaGk)
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Every mobbed-up kid in America knows you steal from the suckers, not the made men on the inside.
Except the Harvard grads, evidently.
Every mobbed-up kid in America knows you steal from the suckers, not the made men on the inside.
Except the Harvard grads, evidently.
Posted by: Auspex at February 18, 2025 01:05 PM (j4U/Z)
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The lawsuit, filed by the University of California Student Association, sought an emergency restraining order, citing privacy concerns.
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Trump and Musk are raging against the machine. California college students however, are government cucks.
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Trump and Musk are raging against the machine. California college students however, are government cucks.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at February 18, 2025 01:05 PM (KFwfG)
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“Who do not have documents, who do not have legal status in America”
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Easy way to make sure illegals dont come back, throw the hyundai executives in jail
also, even if they escaped, the reality of them not being able to work again will keep their options limited so they either starve or GTFO
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Easy way to make sure illegals dont come back, throw the hyundai executives in jail
also, even if they escaped, the reality of them not being able to work again will keep their options limited so they either starve or GTFO
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - China is Assho And Void of Freedom Loving Wagshambas at February 18, 2025 01:05 PM (HYKHz)
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$4.7 Trillion in untraceable taxpayer dollars.
I find it rather difficult to wrap my head around that amount of OPM. Imagine what shape our economy would be in if Americans could have kept some of that money for their own use.
I find it rather difficult to wrap my head around that amount of OPM. Imagine what shape our economy would be in if Americans could have kept some of that money for their own use.
Posted by: mrp at February 18, 2025 01:05 PM (rj6Yv)
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4) and, coming soon, ended the delegation doctrine; not just in rule-making under Chevron, but also in spending; like, there not only has to be specific Congressional authorization, but also that there has to be clear Constitutional authority--for the end-product of the spending.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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People's Hippo, The Non-Delegation doctrine actually follows an old J.W. Hampton Meatpacking case ruling that any delegation of power by Congress to an agency must have 'an intelligible principle' aka standards so that Congress and the judiciary can measure whether or not the agency is doing its job. Panama Refining aka Hot Oil case dealt with FDR having unlimited power to declare interstate shipments of refined products as illegal under the NIRA (struck down by Scotus). In a companion case, Schecter Poultry, Scotus struck down NIRA (National Industrial Recovery Act) delegating power to industry groups to set up binding industrial practice regulations. Can't delegate rulemaking to private organizations via delegation.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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People's Hippo, The Non-Delegation doctrine actually follows an old J.W. Hampton Meatpacking case ruling that any delegation of power by Congress to an agency must have 'an intelligible principle' aka standards so that Congress and the judiciary can measure whether or not the agency is doing its job. Panama Refining aka Hot Oil case dealt with FDR having unlimited power to declare interstate shipments of refined products as illegal under the NIRA (struck down by Scotus). In a companion case, Schecter Poultry, Scotus struck down NIRA (National Industrial Recovery Act) delegating power to industry groups to set up binding industrial practice regulations. Can't delegate rulemaking to private organizations via delegation.
Posted by: whig at February 18, 2025 01:05 PM (ctrM5)
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One reason I (naively?) don't think SSA is a target for insider fraud is the payments are capped at fairly small amounts. For 2025, the largest monthly benefit that could be paid is $5,108
What's the opening line on "hundreds of checks for beneficiaries aged over 100 going to a single-unit 'apartment building'"?
What's the opening line on "hundreds of checks for beneficiaries aged over 100 going to a single-unit 'apartment building'"?
Posted by: Chuck C at February 18, 2025 01:05 PM (D0HYP)
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I took my SS benefit early at 62. I wish I knew how to supplement it with a duplicate payment.
I kid of course because even if I was guaranteed never to be caught I would never do it.
I kid of course because even if I was guaranteed never to be caught I would never do it.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 18, 2025 01:05 PM (VofaG)
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When DOGE finally gets around to DoD, I hope right leaners won't suddenly question the purpose of it.
Pretty sure most of us here are fully behind auditing the DoD. No reason their expenditures shouldn't be transparent.
Pretty sure most of us here are fully behind auditing the DoD. No reason their expenditures shouldn't be transparent.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 01:06 PM (ExV1e)
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How dare you look in my phone to find proof of me cheating. How am I supposed to ever trust you again!?
Posted by: Heads is Every Branch of Government at February 18, 2025 01:06 PM (uTp11)
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Stop it, Elon, it hurts!
Posted by: The swamp at February 18, 2025 01:06 PM (OA79/)
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Social Security is yet another example of fraud, not incompetence. Which is the only reason it hasn't been cleaned up all these years.
Just like voting.
Just like voting.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at February 18, 2025 01:06 PM (qUkBO)
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Larry Correia just posted an entertaining educational post on audits on his blog
Monster Hunter Nation
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at February 18, 2025 01:03 PM (WIRXc)
That looks like a good rant I'll have to save for later.
Monster Hunter Nation
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at February 18, 2025 01:03 PM (WIRXc)
That looks like a good rant I'll have to save for later.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 18, 2025 01:06 PM (i24o9)
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130 How much does a funeral home charge to forget about reporting a death to SSA?
Posted by: Oglebay at February 18, 2025 12:34 PM (2ap+5)
I'm guessing the vast majority of the 115 y.o.+ crowd will be non-paid recipients who were kept active in the system for some reason related to a dependent who receives a disability payment based on the 115 y.o.'s work record.
Just a guess.
Posted by: Oglebay at February 18, 2025 12:34 PM (2ap+5)
I'm guessing the vast majority of the 115 y.o.+ crowd will be non-paid recipients who were kept active in the system for some reason related to a dependent who receives a disability payment based on the 115 y.o.'s work record.
Just a guess.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at February 18, 2025 01:06 PM (QGaXH)
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Wall Street Apes
@WallStreetApes
Auto worker in Georgia at the Hyundai electric car plant
He’s reporting ICE just showed up and HUNDREDS of illegal workers ran away. Hyundai is employing HUNDREDS OF ILLEGAL WORKERS at their plants
He says “80-90%” of the group he works with are illegal Venezuelans
“They are making electric cars. Today immigration came and hundreds of people left running, jumping fences”
“Who do not have documents, who do not have legal status in America”
Posted by: Mister Ghost at February 18, 2025 01:03 PM (TGPs7)
Woot! La Migra is back, baby!
@WallStreetApes
Auto worker in Georgia at the Hyundai electric car plant
He’s reporting ICE just showed up and HUNDREDS of illegal workers ran away. Hyundai is employing HUNDREDS OF ILLEGAL WORKERS at their plants
He says “80-90%” of the group he works with are illegal Venezuelans
“They are making electric cars. Today immigration came and hundreds of people left running, jumping fences”
“Who do not have documents, who do not have legal status in America”
Posted by: Mister Ghost at February 18, 2025 01:03 PM (TGPs7)
Woot! La Migra is back, baby!
Posted by: LASue at February 18, 2025 01:07 PM (mFhj8)
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326 >> Relevant case law is Humphrey's Executor
Humphrey’s Executor needs to go.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
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The NLRB case where Trump fired a commissioner and the general counsel is asking Scotus just that.
Humphrey’s Executor needs to go.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
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The NLRB case where Trump fired a commissioner and the general counsel is asking Scotus just that.
Posted by: whig at February 18, 2025 01:07 PM (ctrM5)
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Do IGs have to be Congressionally approved? Why not make Musk an IG.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 18, 2025 01:07 PM (VofaG)
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340 When DOGE finally gets around to DoD, I hope right leaners won't suddenly question the purpose of it.
Pretty sure most of us here are fully behind auditing the DoD. No reason their expenditures shouldn't be transparent.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 01:06 PM (ExV1e)
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We tend to be more ideological than partisan.
The right-side of X is much more partisan than ideological.
There's going to be a lot of shit throwing about how we can't touch the precious DOD from there because if we do the grannies at the Pentagon will have to do bake sales to fuel up the jets to kill terrorists in Syria.
Pretty sure most of us here are fully behind auditing the DoD. No reason their expenditures shouldn't be transparent.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 01:06 PM (ExV1e)
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We tend to be more ideological than partisan.
The right-side of X is much more partisan than ideological.
There's going to be a lot of shit throwing about how we can't touch the precious DOD from there because if we do the grannies at the Pentagon will have to do bake sales to fuel up the jets to kill terrorists in Syria.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 01:08 PM (GBKbO)
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282 I like Hogg as head of DNC for LIFE.
Posted by: Xipe Totec
Head for life? 👍
From David Hogg? 👍
Posted by: Xipe Totec
Head for life? 👍
From David Hogg? 👍
Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at February 18, 2025 01:08 PM (JCZqz)
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320 Wow, in another lawsuit a Judge slapped down, Fed Workers tried to argue that giving access to DOGE and the Prezzy, so they could use the Gov wide email system, somehow invaded their privacy.
They are just throwing shit at the wall, hoping something sticks, to get a headline.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 18, 2025 01:01 PM (QAkQ3)
It's ludicrous all down the line. The Leftists are asserting that career Civil Servants will never do anything improper with your data or make improper payments or waste a nickel of your tax money, because they are career Civil Servants!
I did not know the Civil Service hires only saints, or that a Civil Servant becomes a saint immediately upon being issued an ID badge.
They are just throwing shit at the wall, hoping something sticks, to get a headline.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 18, 2025 01:01 PM (QAkQ3)
It's ludicrous all down the line. The Leftists are asserting that career Civil Servants will never do anything improper with your data or make improper payments or waste a nickel of your tax money, because they are career Civil Servants!
I did not know the Civil Service hires only saints, or that a Civil Servant becomes a saint immediately upon being issued an ID badge.
Posted by: Gref at February 18, 2025 01:09 PM (aBgBM)
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I'm waiting for President Trump to come out and say something along the lines of, "I believe we can find enough fraud to justify further tax cuts."
Remember, the usual suspects always scream cutting taxes is somehow depriving someone somewhere of something.
I wonder if President Trump is also moving to kill the "no way we can afford to cut taxes" argument?
Remember, the usual suspects always scream cutting taxes is somehow depriving someone somewhere of something.
I wonder if President Trump is also moving to kill the "no way we can afford to cut taxes" argument?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 18, 2025 01:09 PM (tT6L1)
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How many DoE Administrators are just a position collecting a check ala Henry Hill being in construction because he's a union delegate?
Posted by: davidt at February 18, 2025 01:09 PM (i0F8b)
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IIRC, there is a big difference in how a Fed vs a retired Fed can be pursued legally.
Posted by: Archimedes
Since these feral motherfuckers cannot be fired for being evil cocksuckers...simply turn that shit around, recall her nasty ass to active duty, THEN prosecute the coondog shit out her as an example to the others. You don't get to quit to avoid bungabunga from the DoJ.
Posted by: Archimedes
Since these feral motherfuckers cannot be fired for being evil cocksuckers...simply turn that shit around, recall her nasty ass to active duty, THEN prosecute the coondog shit out her as an example to the others. You don't get to quit to avoid bungabunga from the DoJ.
Posted by: BifBewalski at February 18, 2025 01:09 PM (MsrgL)
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351 I did not know the Civil Service hires only saints, or that a Civil Servant becomes a saint immediately upon being issued an ID badge.
Posted by: Gref at February 18, 2025 01:09 PM (aBgBM)
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"It's both, actually."
-WaPo, 99.999999999% probability
Posted by: Gref at February 18, 2025 01:09 PM (aBgBM)
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"It's both, actually."
-WaPo, 99.999999999% probability
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 01:09 PM (GBKbO)
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I find it rather difficult to wrap my head around that amount of OPM. Imagine what shape our economy would be in if Americans could have kept some of that money for their own use.
Posted by: mrp at February 18, 2025 01:05 PM (rj6Yv)
We’re going to find out our entire economy was being supported by a few million people who actually made real things. The rest is grift, in government and the private sector.
Posted by: mrp at February 18, 2025 01:05 PM (rj6Yv)
We’re going to find out our entire economy was being supported by a few million people who actually made real things. The rest is grift, in government and the private sector.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 18, 2025 01:10 PM (l3YAf)
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DOGE: Swarm, swarm!
Uncle Leo: I'm a Government employee, I'm confused! [Fraudulent checks fall out of jacket.]
Uncle Leo: I'm a Government employee, I'm confused! [Fraudulent checks fall out of jacket.]
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at February 18, 2025 01:10 PM (qUkBO)
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Ever wonder if horses get tired of standing up all the time?
Ever wonder if horses get tired of standing up all the time?
Posted by: Deep Thoughts by a dummy at February 18, 2025 01:11 PM (jv3tj)
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Posted by: SMOD at February 18, 2025 01:01 PM (RHGPo)
Ah. There it is. We’ve been lied to, stolen from, poisoned and weakened. All on purpose.
The phone call is coming from inside the house.
Ah. There it is. We’ve been lied to, stolen from, poisoned and weakened. All on purpose.
The phone call is coming from inside the house.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at February 18, 2025 01:11 PM (eZwyX)
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I want all the corrupt employers exposed. Let's find out who's been hiring all these illegals. Then start prosecuting them.
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This X "a jillionity". Add politicians, land lords, Church & NGO leaders and anyone having a roll in bringing them in and setting them up.
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This X "a jillionity". Add politicians, land lords, Church & NGO leaders and anyone having a roll in bringing them in and setting them up.
Posted by: Smellslikevictory at February 18, 2025 01:11 PM (jPdyB)
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A good bit from Correia's article;
Back to auditing, just because the Social Security database is filled with garbage doesn’t mean that all that garbage is fraud. However, try that excuse when the government audits you. “Oh, I’m sorry my books are riddled with errors, it is no big deal, that’s just how we do things around here.” and see how that shakes out for you.
If a company’s records were full of broken bullshit, the government would assume the worst, fine the ever living fuck out of you, and possibly send you to jail. Because the government’s default assumption when a company’s books are all fucked up is that it is on purpose to hide fraud.
Back to auditing, just because the Social Security database is filled with garbage doesn’t mean that all that garbage is fraud. However, try that excuse when the government audits you. “Oh, I’m sorry my books are riddled with errors, it is no big deal, that’s just how we do things around here.” and see how that shakes out for you.
If a company’s records were full of broken bullshit, the government would assume the worst, fine the ever living fuck out of you, and possibly send you to jail. Because the government’s default assumption when a company’s books are all fucked up is that it is on purpose to hide fraud.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 01:11 PM (t0Rmr)
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330 What are they hiding at the Dept of Education?
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Student loan bailouts that lack even the fig leaf of Biden's authorization.
Like, pretty much every NGO and government drone getting a "forgiveness"
When is the last time you heard a teacher worried about paying off their student loan?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 18, 2025 01:04 PM (fPmw+)
Pretty much if you work for an ngo you can get those loans forgiven. Or more correctly paid off by some blue collar plumber chump who earns his doe, while the ngo turd takes more of Joe Sixpacks money from uncle sugar as salary.
Be cool if Musk made a list of ngos that showed the percentage of fed funding to all other funding. I bet they are all 90% fed $$
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Student loan bailouts that lack even the fig leaf of Biden's authorization.
Like, pretty much every NGO and government drone getting a "forgiveness"
When is the last time you heard a teacher worried about paying off their student loan?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 18, 2025 01:04 PM (fPmw+)
Pretty much if you work for an ngo you can get those loans forgiven. Or more correctly paid off by some blue collar plumber chump who earns his doe, while the ngo turd takes more of Joe Sixpacks money from uncle sugar as salary.
Be cool if Musk made a list of ngos that showed the percentage of fed funding to all other funding. I bet they are all 90% fed $$
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at February 18, 2025 01:11 PM (OA79/)
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Judge Chutkan is going to be making a decision today on the 14 blue states appeal. She refused yesterday to stop anything pending today's hearing
Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 18, 2025 01:12 PM (KXtU1)
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The Electric Hyundais were a seminal psychedelic group, little known now, but much more influential than Strawberry Alarm Clock.
Posted by: Acid Reflux at February 18, 2025 01:12 PM (G5+As)
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361 If a company’s records were full of broken bullshit, the government would assume the worst, fine the ever living fuck out of you, and possibly send you to jail. Because the government’s default assumption when a company’s books are all fucked up is that it is on purpose to hide fraud.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 01:11 PM (t0Rmr)
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With Sarbanes-Oxley, they'd throw the CEO personally in jail. The CEO has to personally sign off on all public financial documents as accurate.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2025 01:11 PM (t0Rmr)
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With Sarbanes-Oxley, they'd throw the CEO personally in jail. The CEO has to personally sign off on all public financial documents as accurate.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 01:12 PM (GBKbO)
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He’s reporting ICE just showed up and HUNDREDS of illegal workers ran away. Hyundai is employing HUNDREDS OF ILLEGAL WORKERS at their plants
He says “80-90%” of the group he works with are illegal Venezuelans
ISTR that SpaceX was being sued by the feds for NOT hiring illegals, so this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
He says “80-90%” of the group he works with are illegal Venezuelans
ISTR that SpaceX was being sued by the feds for NOT hiring illegals, so this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at February 18, 2025 01:12 PM (lUFok)
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256 59 I would pay money to watch illegals flee over high fences.
Pay extra with some yakkity sax.
Posted by: puhleaze at February 18, 2025 12:25 PM (bbuBP)
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Lawn chairs, a case of National Bohemian, and a Family sized bag of Funions. I'm there.
Pay extra with some yakkity sax.
Posted by: puhleaze at February 18, 2025 12:25 PM (bbuBP)
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Lawn chairs, a case of National Bohemian, and a Family sized bag of Funions. I'm there.
Posted by: Orson at February 18, 2025 01:12 PM (dIske)
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Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 18, 2025 01:10 PM (l3YAf)
It’s ALL fake, gay, fraudulent and evil.
It’s ALL fake, gay, fraudulent and evil.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at February 18, 2025 01:12 PM (eZwyX)
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313 I'm pretty sure Social Security depends on people either reporting on the death of a loved one or the funeral home properly reporting things.
It isn't that hard to game a system if the reporting system depends on the basic honesty of people.
I can see cartels kicking SSA money back to funeral homes they control, for example.
Posted by: blake
Every state has laws requiring funeral directors, hospitals, etc. to report deaths to some state version of Vital Statistics (usually same folks that issue birth certificates as well). They report to the SSA and DoD/VA among other places and the SSA has its own 'death' list and those old social security numbers of dead people are actually publicly released at that point. Genealogy websites among others obtain those lists.
It isn't that hard to game a system if the reporting system depends on the basic honesty of people.
I can see cartels kicking SSA money back to funeral homes they control, for example.
Posted by: blake
Every state has laws requiring funeral directors, hospitals, etc. to report deaths to some state version of Vital Statistics (usually same folks that issue birth certificates as well). They report to the SSA and DoD/VA among other places and the SSA has its own 'death' list and those old social security numbers of dead people are actually publicly released at that point. Genealogy websites among others obtain those lists.
Posted by: whig at February 18, 2025 01:12 PM (ctrM5)
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Leaks a plenty: hacks, misplaced laptops, employees download porn at work and the Trojan Horse hooks up China, Russia, SQUIRREL
Posted by: Deplorable Minion at February 18, 2025 01:13 PM (QSrLX)
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For example, Trump DOJ lawyers are trying to drop the criminal prosecution of Eric Adams in New York, but the judge involved refuses to do so without getting some personal publicity first.
1. Have Adams request a jury trial.
2. Government opening argument is that the whole thing is a politically motivated hit job, it's complete BS, and they're having to waste their time because the judge wants to play games. Then rest.
1. Have Adams request a jury trial.
2. Government opening argument is that the whole thing is a politically motivated hit job, it's complete BS, and they're having to waste their time because the judge wants to play games. Then rest.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 01:13 PM (ExV1e)
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I wonder if President Trump is also moving to kill the "no way we can afford to cut taxes" argument?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 18, 2025 01:09 PM (tT6L1)
there is a correct timing strategy for both objective reasons and perception reasons.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 18, 2025 01:09 PM (tT6L1)
there is a correct timing strategy for both objective reasons and perception reasons.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 18, 2025 01:13 PM (VofaG)
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Ex-Argentine President Charged With Beating First Lady While in Office: Alberto Fernández, who called himself the country’s first feminist leader, allegedly battered his partner for years.
Posted by: SMOD at February 18, 2025 01:13 PM (RHGPo)
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nood
Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at February 18, 2025 01:14 PM (5xgzq)
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With Sarbanes-Oxley, they'd throw the CEO personally in jail. The CEO has to personally sign off on all public financial documents as accurate.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 01:12 PM (GBKbO)
That should apply to NGOs, but it probably doesn't.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 18, 2025 01:12 PM (GBKbO)
That should apply to NGOs, but it probably doesn't.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 18, 2025 01:14 PM (i24o9)
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Nood Kamala.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 01:15 PM (ExV1e)
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1. Have Adams request a jury trial.
2. Government opening argument is that the whole thing is a politically motivated hit job, it's complete BS, and they're having to waste their time because the judge wants to play games. Then rest.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 01:13 PM (ExV1e)
That would be funny. And instructive.
2. Government opening argument is that the whole thing is a politically motivated hit job, it's complete BS, and they're having to waste their time because the judge wants to play games. Then rest.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 18, 2025 01:13 PM (ExV1e)
That would be funny. And instructive.
Posted by: mrp at February 18, 2025 01:15 PM (rj6Yv)
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Be cool if Musk made a list of ngos that showed the percentage of fed funding to all other funding. I bet they are all 90% fed $$
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I'll be watching for tells like all the LGBTQWREWR flag flying churches going under and coming on the real estate market.
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I'll be watching for tells like all the LGBTQWREWR flag flying churches going under and coming on the real estate market.
Posted by: Smellslikevictory at February 18, 2025 01:15 PM (jPdyB)
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How do you begin to process 2 million cases of SSA fraud?
I mean we have 83,000 new IRS agents, but they're probably only capable of looking into 7 or so per year.
How do you begin to process 2 million cases of SSA fraud?
I mean we have 83,000 new IRS agents, but they're probably only capable of looking into 7 or so per year.
Posted by: Auspex at February 18, 2025 01:16 PM (j4U/Z)
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I think we should get allcomputers out of the schools. It's all graft and they learn nothing playing with them. They can do that at home even homeless people have cell phones to access the internet. There's no need for this in schools and it interferes with real learning.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 18, 2025 01:16 PM (o5+a9)
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Besset vs Diliger has been docketed but the SC for tomorrow.
Let's hope the ruling is in our favor and broad enough to cover some of the other suits.
Let's hope the ruling is in our favor and broad enough to cover some of the other suits.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 18, 2025 01:16 PM (t/2Uw)
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When DOGE finally gets around to DoD, I hope right leaners won't suddenly question the purpose of it.
I want everything gone over with a fine tooth comb. I don't care whose ox is gored.
I want everything gone over with a fine tooth comb. I don't care whose ox is gored.
Posted by: nogooddeed at February 18, 2025 01:16 PM (4Af9R)
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316 Think of the poor taco truck owner in Georgia that serves the Hyundai plant at lunchtime. He's gonna be stuck with thousands of aging tacos. Can we get him a government stipend to cover the loss?
pretty certain "aging tacos" is a category on pronhub...
pretty certain "aging tacos" is a category on pronhub...
Posted by: anachronda at February 18, 2025 01:17 PM (oY6Yp)
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363 Judge Chutkan is going to be making a decision today on the 14 blue states appeal. She refused yesterday to stop anything pending today's hearing
Posted by: Smell the Glove
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District judges are getting afraid that Scotus will chuck being able to issue TROs and injunctions willy nilly. The old practice was that a decision only bound the named parties but not others (aka Dred Scott reaction by abolitionists). Then came the national injunctions right and left. The right used them against strikes, the left used them for everything else.
Posted by: Smell the Glove
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District judges are getting afraid that Scotus will chuck being able to issue TROs and injunctions willy nilly. The old practice was that a decision only bound the named parties but not others (aka Dred Scott reaction by abolitionists). Then came the national injunctions right and left. The right used them against strikes, the left used them for everything else.
Posted by: whig at February 18, 2025 01:17 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: DaisyB at February 18, 2025 01:18 PM (AbL8c)
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Posted by: Smellslikevictory at February 18, 2025 01
If they come on the real estate market they'll likely be sold as houses with many being transformed into mosques. Oh, yes some closed churches get turned into bars which IMO is not as bad as becoming a mosque.
If they come on the real estate market they'll likely be sold as houses with many being transformed into mosques. Oh, yes some closed churches get turned into bars which IMO is not as bad as becoming a mosque.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 18, 2025 01:19 PM (42Vb+)
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>> Oh, yes some closed churches get turned into bars
I’ve been to a few of those. The symbolism is depressing.
I’ve been to a few of those. The symbolism is depressing.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 18, 2025 01:23 PM (l3YAf)
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When one of my parents died, immediately that was it for a
SS checks. They even clawed back part of the payment as the death occurred midway in the month(or whatever the payment period was). So yes, let’s claw back some of the fraud that went out the door. Hoping they can find, get back and prosecute to the nth degree these people.
SS checks. They even clawed back part of the payment as the death occurred midway in the month(or whatever the payment period was). So yes, let’s claw back some of the fraud that went out the door. Hoping they can find, get back and prosecute to the nth degree these people.
Posted by: Paisley at February 18, 2025 01:25 PM (Z31Wr)
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This is only possible by design and represents a huge and widespread conspiracy that constitutes treason on a grand scale. It should be punished by the harshest possible means as if we were at war, for these people meant to destroy this country.
Posted by: TJ Jackson at February 18, 2025 01:27 PM (bXvrr)
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There's going to be a lot of shit throwing about how we can't touch the precious DOD from there because if we do the grannies at the Pentagon will have to do bake sales to fuel up the jets to kill terrorists in Syria.
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There are a lot of differences on where we should fund technology and where we need to cut back. Basically, it revolves around heavy metal and UAVs on land and likewise on sea. We cannot produce the number of nuke subs we said we wanted while China is out pacing sub production. As far as heavy metal, where do we expect to deploy armored brigades going forward?
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There are a lot of differences on where we should fund technology and where we need to cut back. Basically, it revolves around heavy metal and UAVs on land and likewise on sea. We cannot produce the number of nuke subs we said we wanted while China is out pacing sub production. As far as heavy metal, where do we expect to deploy armored brigades going forward?
Posted by: Pudinhead at February 18, 2025 01:27 PM (pLaQB)
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224 @ 176, actually, there were (if i remember correctly) 12 million back in the 80s for RR's amnesty.
the flimsy lie is laughable, or would be it it weren't a spear pointed at our hearts.
I estimate the number at 30 to 40 million as of today, ymmv.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 18, 2025 12:45 PM (KaBJL)
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65M
the flimsy lie is laughable, or would be it it weren't a spear pointed at our hearts.
I estimate the number at 30 to 40 million as of today, ymmv.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 18, 2025 12:45 PM (KaBJL)
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65M
Posted by: Ciampino - what to do short of wiping them all? at February 18, 2025 01:40 PM (KjLnc)
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Government bureaucrats have our special secret data, so the government can't look at it to make sure the government bureaucrats aren't stealing our money. Says the media. Who probably take money from bureaucrats.
Posted by: Self licking cones at February 18, 2025 01:47 PM (JsT2K)
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The Dems just need to sit back, listen to some Tame Impala, relax and chill...
It's always around me, all this noise
But not nearly as loud as the voice saying
Let it happen, let it happen
(It's gonna feel so good)
Just let it happen, let it happen
https://youtu.be/pFptt7Cargc
It's always around me, all this noise
But not nearly as loud as the voice saying
Let it happen, let it happen
(It's gonna feel so good)
Just let it happen, let it happen
https://youtu.be/pFptt7Cargc
Posted by: SpeakingOf at February 18, 2025 01:52 PM (6ydKt)
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Something that should be easy to query with their data-crunching power:
When were the TAS numbers made optional?
Sure, the actual timestamp that the code or configuration change was made could be lost to time. But you start graphing the difference between has-TAS and missing-TAS counts, and you can draw a circle around the time that switch was flipped.
And that can narrow down who was employed, and possibly pull the memos and emails to pinpoint who gave that order.
When were the TAS numbers made optional?
Sure, the actual timestamp that the code or configuration change was made could be lost to time. But you start graphing the difference between has-TAS and missing-TAS counts, and you can draw a circle around the time that switch was flipped.
And that can narrow down who was employed, and possibly pull the memos and emails to pinpoint who gave that order.
Posted by: Another Anon at February 18, 2025 02:20 PM (QNMaY)
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Surprisingly, the judge who convicted 95% of J6 defendants just refused to impose an injunction on DOGE and Musk that seems to have been designed to stop everything dead.
Posted by: Octochicken at February 18, 2025 02:51 PM (oCS0o)
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#173 trying to correct a Mel Brooks joke makes for Mighty slim Pickens...
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at February 18, 2025 04:35 PM (o3JZz)
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It figures those little snowflakes filing the stupid Lawsuit would be from California I live in California and those to the South whining way too much and those pathetic little Snowflakes have nothing to stand on
Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at February 18, 2025 04:48 PM (wGqjj)
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