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Oh gardening?
I've still got to shovel half of my deck, and my neighbor's deck from last weekends 3-6" of global warming - which is more like 12-18". Posted by: Defenestratus at February 22, 2025 01:36 PM (zfALS) 2
Yay! It's fixed.
I've always like plants and flowers with icicles hanging off hem. For some reaso I find them peaceful. Posted by: New nick time! Certified dangerous radical that puts ketchup on hotdogs plus, imma wannabe ratfink! at February 22, 2025 01:38 PM (89Sog) 3
Done lots of puttering lately. Zero gardening and adventure.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 22, 2025 01:39 PM (Dm8we) 4
Those oryx will come in handy in zombie times.
Posted by: Eromero at February 22, 2025 01:39 PM (jgmnb) 5
Why did they peel the skin off of the English walnut?
I know the pith is bitter, but I didn't know anything about the skin. Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 22, 2025 01:39 PM (HlyYF) 6
So here the dew on spider webs will freeze and in the morning sun, they can be beautiful. But you will have to take my word for it because being near Seattle there is seldom any morning sun.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 22, 2025 01:39 PM (W/lyH) 7
What would you like to know about pears? I packed them for a living for seven years. Bartletts are not good keepers. They are a bit like Gravenstein apples, an early fruit with a limited life. Keiffers are the sweetest pear out there. They are a lot smaller than Bartletts. The best keepers are Bosc and Anjous. I have seen enormous Boscs and they are good baked and canned. When you are picking out pears, keep in mind that sugar is heavy. The sweetest ones will be the heaviest.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 22, 2025 01:39 PM (o5+a9) 8
I thought I had a First
Posted by: jsg at February 22, 2025 01:40 PM (UJ+K5) 9
Oo Pears!!! My favorite. I have an orchard with various apples, peaches, kiwi, cherries and chestnuts. But, the primary care and perfect pruning is reserved for my pear trees. I have Bartletts...but I really love my Red Anjou and my Bosc trees. That's the cool thing about most fruits. If you bother to get different species....they will come to ripeness at different times throughout the season. That's a big deal with strawberries, which are also a guilty pleasure at my place.
I've had to make sure I prune the lower branches, because the White Tails seem to love pears too...although their fruit of preference seems to be apples. Posted by: Orson at February 22, 2025 01:41 PM (dIske) 10
Thread closed???
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle for festive little hats at February 22, 2025 01:41 PM (PAa7I) Posted by: jsg at February 22, 2025 01:41 PM (UJ+K5) 12
4 Those oryx will come in handy in zombie times.
Posted by: Eromero at February 22, 2025 01:39 PM I don't know, Mrs. E might turn them into pets? Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 22, 2025 01:41 PM (HlyYF) 13
And it is 47 so far. They are talking about 70, 70! on Tuesday! I am going to start some seeds this week. Will talk to the guy about turning up the ground. I am ready to do garden stuff
Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 22, 2025 01:42 PM (o5+a9) 14
That gemsbok makes good eating and also good biltong.
Posted by: Ciampino - Gemsbok in the USA - fancy that at February 22, 2025 01:42 PM (KjLnc) 15
Pillage Idiot at February 22, 2025 01:39 PM
The skin on green walnuts does not have a pleasant texture. Plus, people who are allergic to walnut are, they say, usually allergic to tiny mites that live under the skin of the nut. I don't think walnut skins taste particularly good on their own. Especially green. Posted by: KT at February 22, 2025 01:43 PM (xekrU) 16
Anyway, half of right front flower bed cleaned up, raked, etc.
Hopefully I'll have the entire front done tomorrow and the side done next weekend. Low 40s out so manageable. Good to be outside again. Posted by: jsg at February 22, 2025 01:43 PM (UJ+K5) 17
Good afternoon Greenthumbs
Generally I am against introduced species, it's always a gamble they won't take over natural species Posted by: Skip at February 22, 2025 01:47 PM (fwDg9) 18
Was out finally picking up sticks from wind storm a week ago. I have a lot of leaves from Fall around so some reasonable day need to get them gathered.
Posted by: Skip at February 22, 2025 01:48 PM (fwDg9) 19
So good to see you back KT!
I'm glad you featured the lowly pear. Much overlooked, but one of the fruity workhorses of the kitchen. Can be used in many dishes both savory and sweet. Posted by: kallisto at February 22, 2025 01:49 PM (dCxaZ) 20
This time of year... March... is the absolute worst up here in the Northeast.
Having grown up in the south, I know how pretty and pleasant its getting down there. Trees are budding, the bulbs will start shooting up and grass will start turning green. Meanwhile up here I get to look at nasty brown snowbanks. Ice flows all over my driveway and a $1000 a month heating bill for the 3rd month in a row. And its not like it will all of a sudden be beautiful one day... nooooo.... all of this snow (piled up 10' high in places) will melt and saturate the ground. Mud season begins in only a month and a half... followed by black fly season until July 4th. Why do I do this to myself? Posted by: Defenestratus at February 22, 2025 01:56 PM (Wxg0A) 21
Just an observation.
I like sago palms as well as the next guy, but I don't know why people keep buying them where I live (hardiness zone 8b). They're really only reliably hardy in zones 9-11, and although some do ok, many suffer damage and die due to cold snaps every year. Placement is absolutely key if you're going to take a chance on one (or more) in this "marginal" zone. If they were five dollars a three-gallon bucket it might be worth it, but these things tend to be inordinately expensive. Posted by: Paco at February 22, 2025 01:57 PM (mADJX) 22
I like sago palms as well as the next guy, but I don't know why people keep buying them where I live (hardiness zone 8b). They're really only reliably hardy in zones 9-11, and although some do ok, many suffer damage and die due to cold snaps every year. Placement is absolutely key if you're going to take a chance on one (or more) in this "marginal" zone. If they were five dollars a three-gallon bucket it might be worth it, but these things tend to be inordinately expensive.
Posted by: Paco Folks always bring plants they love into new areas. Here in the KC area, I see tons of crepe myrtle. Every nursery sells a few varieties. NONE will take the cold, so they start anew every 3 or 4 years. Won't be a single top that lives through this winter. But hey! Crepe myrtle! (I think it's a law that you gotta have crepe myrtle in your yard south of the Mason-Dixie line). Posted by: MkY at February 22, 2025 02:04 PM (cPGH3) 23
An aside, I flew into Dallas some years ago, and saw a small tree with really interesting bark. Could NOT figure it out.
Crepe myrtle. Posted by: MkY at February 22, 2025 02:06 PM (cPGH3) 24
BTW Glad you see you out and about KT.
You're a treasure. Posted by: MkY at February 22, 2025 02:07 PM (cPGH3) 25
Welcome back, KT!
I shoveled snow in the garden. I attempted to burn the pile of oak branches from the pruning, but they wouldn't take. I guess I'll be cutting them smaller and taking them to the yard waste yard in the spring. It's supposed to warm up and melt the snow this week, so I'll clean leaves out of the front garden and see if the crocuses are up. Posted by: NaughtyPine at February 22, 2025 02:12 PM (2i7Hu) 26
My earliest plum is starting to make buds, though it may not put out flowers for a couple of weeks. The last two years it had very few plums on it because it had bloomed before the bees woke up.
I am in the middle of pruning my grape vines, and since the vines are ancient it is a hard choice as to what to leave and what to chop. I am going to have to treat them like my currants and just cut them back on a whim. The main thing I did today is sweep the chimney and put moss killer on the roof peak. Posted by: Kindltot at February 22, 2025 02:13 PM (D7oie) 27
Pear cider>>>apple cider.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 22, 2025 02:13 PM (sNOR2) 28
(I think it's a law that you gotta have crepe myrtle in your yard south of the Mason-Dixie line).
Posted by: MkY at February 22, 2025 02:04 PM Yep. I got a big beautiful crepe myrtle. I love that tree. I have a peach tree that's real nice too. But I had to take a big limb off it last fall. The peaches got too heavy and broke it. I hope it doesn't die. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 22, 2025 02:14 PM (BI5O2) 29
I love the pears that have sweet, buttery flesh. Comice is one of them, I believe - - Mail-order pear. There is another similar-tasting variety that shows up in grocery stores, but every year I forget the name.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at February 22, 2025 02:17 PM (Sf2cq) 30
Nurse, I made pear cider from my bartletts a couple of years ago, and I found that it was not nearly as exciting as the juice from the Gravensteins. I may have gotten the fruit too ripe so a lot of the complexities got lost.
I did like using it as a sweetener in some of the fruits I canned, though, including the pears which I normally can in water. Posted by: Kindltot at February 22, 2025 02:18 PM (D7oie) 31
Not much gardening here, yet. Plenty of puttering, if that includes shoveling & cleaning...
I'm planning on sowing mixed leaf lettuce in a couple of pots on the deck, spinach & peas too. Maybe next week or so, after the drenching rain we're expecting. Indoors, I'll start a couple of tomatoes. And jalapenos. That should do until it warms up enough to plant zucchini and okra. Every summer I think I'm *done* with gardening, LOL. Every winter I can't wait to do it again! Posted by: JQ at February 22, 2025 02:20 PM (rdVOm) 32
I've never seen a rosemary bush in bloom that isn't crawling with bees.
Posted by: 13times at February 22, 2025 02:21 PM (K3B2k) 33
If I have a lot of pears this year I will need to make pear butter again. I like it better than apple butter.
I only have the one tree, thank goodness, so when I have a good year I only have to feel slightly bad about wasting fruit. If I had three trees it would drive me mad. As it is I can them, I dry them, and I make pear conserves by shredding up the ripe fruit and using that to make jam. Posted by: Kindltot at February 22, 2025 02:22 PM (D7oie) 34
Kindltot,
I love hard pear cider. It can be difficult to find though. I've had your apple butter. It's divine. Posted by: nurse ratched at February 22, 2025 02:24 PM (sNOR2) 35
I have to rebuild my press, the nice thing about building a press out of 4x4s and repurposed jacks is that it is quite modifiable. I finally have the tools, I just need more wood.
after years of building trays to catch the pressed juice, I finally bought an industrial sized cookie sheet and bored a hole in one end. Posted by: Kindltot at February 22, 2025 02:35 PM (D7oie) 36
From Boise area: lows 25-32 F, highs 34-45. A few warmer days coming up - probably topping 50 on Monday. Snow is melting off, exposing lots of ugly brown sycamore leaves out front. Some rain.
Ground is finally clear enough we can drag off some of the downed branches. We racked off some plum wine we're making (crazy amounts of pulp and yeast to filter out) - it will sit in the secondary for a month. I spotted flickers yesterday. We decided what seed varieties to order. Not quite time to start anything, but it's getting close. Definitely not time to put the rosemary plant outside! - I wonder if it will flower this year. Posted by: Pat* at February 22, 2025 02:40 PM (yQ+x6) 37
Will be 90° plus here in Van Nuys Wednesday. Winter?
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle for festive little hats at February 22, 2025 02:49 PM (JLJJ1) 38
Here in Kentucky we've a spate of bitterly cold temperatures at night and early morning. Yet, the Robins are here now.
No vegetable garden this year. Last year was a total bust. We were infested with beetles that destroyed everything. And what they didn't kill, didn't grow worth a crap. No tomatoes, no squash, no beans, no peppers... nothing. We were disappoint. And it's a lot of work to get a garden plot prepped if you're old... like us. So, we'll give it a rest this year. Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 22, 2025 02:57 PM (Q4IgG) 39
Walnuts, nearly as big as pears with the skin on - I wouldn't have recognized them as such.
Posted by: wifey of ShainS at February 22, 2025 03:02 PM (FUu82) 40
The winter photos are beautiful.
I love the bougainvillea, makes me think of my grandmother's house. Posted by: CaliGirl at February 22, 2025 03:08 PM (Znw75) 41
Comice are wonderful but bruise easily. The red varieties seem to be sweeter in general. We packed Forelles too, which are a red, cylinder shaped pear. I'm sure there are new commercial varieties that I don't know about.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 22, 2025 03:08 PM (o5+a9) 42
There is nothing redeeming about winter. I hate it.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 22, 2025 03:18 PM (/U5Yz) 43
nood floofs
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 22, 2025 03:20 PM (l3YAf) 44
NaughtyPine at February 22, 2025 02:12 PM
Thanks! The hospital called to check on me just when I should have noticed that comments on the thread were closed! Posted by: KT at February 22, 2025 03:24 PM (xekrU) 45
The rosemary looks good next to red things in winter.
Posted by: KT at February 22, 2025 03:24 PM (xekrU) 46
.but I really love my Red Anjou and my Bosc trees.
== Looking to maybe putting those two pears in the yard this year. The ground in the northern part of Indiana is frozen solid, it has been a very cold January and February here. Good for fruit trees. Just got done pruning my peach and apple trees. I wanted to do some surface work on the gardens clearing stuff out, but everything is rock solid. Supposed to have a week of above freezing temps for the first time in forever, maybe it will give me a chance to some over the next week. More daylight at the end of the work day, might give me a chance. Posted by: Black JEM at February 22, 2025 03:46 PM (uLt48) 47
There is nothing redeeming about winter. I hate it.
== Wonderous fruit trees! They need the cold. Posted by: Black JEM at February 22, 2025 03:47 PM (uLt48) 48
All 3 of us have the flu. Miserable.
Posted by: Ciampino - drip drip at February 22, 2025 06:45 PM (KjLnc) 49
Orcas pears are my favorite. A NW variety, sl larger than Bartletts and have a little perfume in the flavor. Excellent bearing, spring frosts that zap our apples barely touch the flowers.
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