Mid-Morning Art Thread

The Three Judges
Honoré Victorin Daumier

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM

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1 3 blind mice

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 11, 2025 09:31 AM (gbOdA)

2 Good morning good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 11, 2025 09:31 AM (WXNFJ)

3 Hawaiian?

Posted by: huerfano at February 11, 2025 09:31 AM (n2swS)

4 Koinkadinky.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at February 11, 2025 09:32 AM (6Xyqy)

5 Boy. He aint a fan

Posted by: MkY at February 11, 2025 09:32 AM (i9nbT)

6 Frankenstein made a lousy judge. HWaraaraarwhuumph

Posted by: DropAndGiveMe20 at February 11, 2025 09:32 AM (NtRnw)

7 The Art Institute of Chicago
Artist
Honoré-Victorin Daumier
Title
The Three Judges
Place
France (Artist's nationality

Date
1858–1860
Medium
Watercolor and brush and black gouache, with charcoal, heightened with gray gouache, over touches of graphite, on ivory laid paper
Dimensions
36.3 × 53.8 cm (14 5/16 × 21 3/16 in.)

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 11, 2025 09:32 AM (gbOdA)

8 Hawaiian?

Posted by: huerfano at February 11, 2025 09:31 AM (n2swS)

Part of the 9th Circus?

Posted by: BignJames at February 11, 2025 09:32 AM (Yj6Os)

9 Wakes up
Scratches
Looks around.
Dang. Who called my parole board???
Goes looking for coffee.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 11, 2025 09:32 AM (W/lyH)

10 No standing!

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 11, 2025 09:33 AM (Q4IgG)

11 Oh, this is nice for a change of pace. The medium, the example of 19c courtroom sketching…I like it!

Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2025 09:33 AM (KGRww)

12 Clarence Thomas looks pretty pale in this picture.

Posted by: Pete in Texas at February 11, 2025 09:33 AM (igZs5)

13 3 judges seem to think they have more power than the president.

Posted by: redridinghood at February 11, 2025 09:33 AM (NpAcC)

14 Weird.

Posted by: Bulg at February 11, 2025 09:33 AM (77rzZ)

15 This was drawn on the back of a napkin after a five martini lunch?

Pretty good drawing from a drunk!

Posted by: Time for a new nick. Certified dangerous radical and Trump cultist!Ketchup goes on hotdogs! at February 11, 2025 09:33 AM (89Sog)

16 Justice is blind.

https://youtu.be/uGqTZUcemrU

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at February 11, 2025 09:33 AM (6Xyqy)

17 Looks like one judge is suffering indigestion.

Is it from the case or an undigested lump of greasy beef?

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 11, 2025 09:33 AM (fvLXw)

18 Defense lawyer- My client is innocent. I would not hang.

tankdemon-- This painting is rather bland. I would not hang.

Posted by: tankdemon at February 11, 2025 09:34 AM (sL3J7)

19 "Did you say 'yoots'?"

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at February 11, 2025 09:34 AM (LxER7)

20 I was wondering if it were watercolor or pencil sketch…turns out it was both. Plus gouache, for added goodness

Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2025 09:35 AM (KGRww)

21 Obama judges?

Posted by: steevy at February 11, 2025 09:35 AM (KQk9m)

22 The fellow in the middle looks like Fred Gwynne as Herman Munster!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 11, 2025 09:35 AM (J2vNu)

23 Well, the judge said guilty in a make-believe trial
Slapped the sheriff on the back with a smile
Said, "Supper's waitin' at home and I gotta get to it"

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 11, 2025 09:36 AM (gbOdA)

24 And the judge on the left looks like Leo McKern as "Rumpole at the Bailey"!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 11, 2025 09:36 AM (J2vNu)

25 How apropos.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 11, 2025 09:36 AM (ExV1e)

26
I'd hit 'em,, all of 'em

Posted by: Mayor Pete -looking for a job now at February 11, 2025 09:36 AM (EFZgU)

27 Can't fool me, CBD is saying something here
I like it , if I was still practicing I would hang it in my office. Thx CBD

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 11, 2025 09:36 AM (KXtU1)

28 The fellow in the middle looks like Fred Gwynne as Herman Munster!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

The two what?

Posted by: Bulg at February 11, 2025 09:36 AM (77rzZ)

29 Since when did David Byrne become a judge?

Posted by: Life of Wryly at February 11, 2025 09:37 AM (1FWWQ)

30 No

Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2025 09:37 AM (AOsQT)

31 Would hang.

Posted by: Scarymary at February 11, 2025 09:37 AM (ytIDq)

32 It’s a challenge when working in a medium with no hue involved. If the artist doesn’t get the tones and values correct, it ends up looking like a smudgy mess.

Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2025 09:37 AM (KGRww)

33 We didn't get a harumph outta that guy.

Posted by: DaveA at February 11, 2025 09:37 AM (FhXTo)

34 Painting looks like a photo in sepia...all washed out

Posted by: IC - Cope Harder, Liberals at February 11, 2025 09:37 AM (DJ7uY)

35 The judge on the left is ripping a fart

Posted by: Life of Wryly at February 11, 2025 09:37 AM (1FWWQ)

36 Would hang.

The judges?

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 11, 2025 09:37 AM (fvLXw)

37 Would hang.

Posted by: Scarymary at February 11, 2025 09:37 AM (ytIDq)

Together or individually?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 11, 2025 09:37 AM (VwHCD)

38 Yes.

Posted by: Scarymary at February 11, 2025 09:38 AM (ytIDq)

39 So...what's the context of this supposed to be? Was Daumier himself brought before judges? Did he just show up to a court one day looking for subjects? Is it historical in nature?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 09:38 AM (GBKbO)

40 These do not look like serious people pondering important matters, like the artist wants to tear down the impression that the judiciary is deserving of our deference. For that, I approve, but it is still a rather blah painting that I would not give any of my limited wallspace.

Posted by: tankdemon at February 11, 2025 09:38 AM (sL3J7)

41 Judges of what?
Surely not the law...awfully young

Posted by: MkY at February 11, 2025 09:38 AM (i9nbT)

42 Love it

Posted by: LASue at February 11, 2025 09:38 AM (lCppi)

43 I'm always amazed at how much expression and personality a truly skilled artist can put into a simple portrait, and this is a quick sketch. These guys look bored. They don't seem to care about the case that's in front of them. The guy on the right looks asleep or close to it. This is not a flattering picture. This is a critique, possibly satire. Daumier did not respect these men, at all.

Posted by: Kris at February 11, 2025 09:39 AM (m8ELN)

44 Trump uses this painting as a dartboard.

Posted by: redridinghood at February 11, 2025 09:39 AM (NpAcC)

45 I'm guessing this was painted right before the colombians on dirt bikes with UZIs arrived.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 11, 2025 09:39 AM (VwHCD)

46 > 28 The fellow in the middle looks like Fred Gwynne as Herman Munster!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

I was thinking Rachel Maddow.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 11, 2025 09:40 AM (W5ArC)

47 When I zoomed in, could see the tonalities of ochre, very nice. And the subjects’ ceremonial hats.

Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2025 09:40 AM (KGRww)

48 The one in the middle aint buying it. The other two seem receptive.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at February 11, 2025 09:40 AM (Dm8we)

49 Would bang.

Posted by: The Gavel at February 11, 2025 09:41 AM (w9Wax)

50
Eraserhead was a judge?

Posted by: haffhowershower at February 11, 2025 09:41 AM (NMT5x)

51 Where are the dogs?

Posted by: Life of Wryly at February 11, 2025 09:41 AM (1FWWQ)

52 We're going to need to see every database query you write before execution.

We are the law.

Posted by: Candidus at February 11, 2025 09:42 AM (4v8tk)

53 Is this a painting or a sketch?

Looks like it isn't quite finished.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 11, 2025 09:42 AM (wZB1K)

54 Shoot them all. Figuratively, of course.

Posted by: From about That Time at February 11, 2025 09:42 AM (4780s)

55 The guy in the middle looks like John Kerry.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 11, 2025 09:43 AM (wZB1K)

56 Wikipedia says Daumier was a "republican democrat (working class liberal), who satirized and lampooned the monarchy, politicians, the judiciary, lawyers, the bourgeoisie, as well as his countrymen and human nature in general."

I'm guessing that "liberal" in this sense means "classical liberal", not the modern meaning where it just means "communist".

So yeah, he's probably making fun of his subjects here.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 11, 2025 09:43 AM (W5ArC)

57 The judge in the middle looks like Frollo from Disney's "Hunchback of Notre Dame". I still can't believe they Disney-fied that book.

Posted by: Kris at February 11, 2025 09:44 AM (m8ELN)

58 I bet they're not wearing pants...

Posted by: Brian Stelter at February 11, 2025 09:44 AM (PiwSw)

59 Based on #7 comment, more thought and effort into supplies than composition.

Posted by: From about That Time at February 11, 2025 09:44 AM (4780s)

60 Lobotomy judge?

Posted by: Smellslikevictory at February 11, 2025 09:45 AM (jPdyB)

61 They can't wait to adjourn because under their robes they are rocking their sheer thong sets with confidence and aplomb.

Posted by: Recess! at February 11, 2025 09:45 AM (G5+As)

62 > 57 The judge in the middle looks like Frollo from Disney's "Hunchback of Notre Dame". I still can't believe they Disney-fied that book.
Posted by: Kris at February 11, 2025 09:44 AM (m8ELN)

I wonder what Hugo would think of them giving it a happy ending.

Next up: Disney does "The Gulag Archipelago". They could have some cute cartoon rats and body lice and so on.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 11, 2025 09:45 AM (W5ArC)

63 None of them looks like Trelane as a judge. But then I suppose French judges in the late 19th century did not wear the periwig we see on judges and barristers in English courtrooms?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 11, 2025 09:45 AM (J2vNu)

64 56 I'm guessing that "liberal" in this sense means "classical liberal", not the modern meaning where it just means "communist".

So yeah, he's probably making fun of his subjects here.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 11, 2025 09:43 AM (W5ArC)

=======

Everyone knew what liberal meant until about the 1920s when progressives needed a new label.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 09:46 AM (GBKbO)

65 Next up: Disney does "The Gulag Archipelago". They could have some cute cartoon rats and body lice and so on.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 11, 2025 09:45 AM (W5ArC)

I was hoping for Dog Day Afternoon.

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 11, 2025 09:46 AM (gbOdA)

66 If you embiggen the picture, you can see what looks like a knife on the table in front of the bench. A murder trial, maybe?

Posted by: Kris at February 11, 2025 09:46 AM (m8ELN)

67 After suffering the live action Snow White, an adaptation of One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich may seem like Springtime for Hitler.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 11, 2025 09:46 AM (fvLXw)

68 The fellow in the middle looks like Fred Gwynne as Herman Munster!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
*
I was thinking Rachel Maddow.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 11, 2025

***
He's nowhere near *that* ugly!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 11, 2025 09:47 AM (J2vNu)

69 I like the three Judges on Ace’s twitter homepage better.
(Hint: one of them is Dr. Zaius)

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2025 09:47 AM (khPC6)

70 Interesting facial expressions. Well done. I gather from looking at Daumier's pictures over the years that he was rather misanthropic . I would like to see one where the subject is happy and relaxed, but I'm not going to go look for it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2025 09:47 AM (ERlZL)

71 It's 28 put here with a wind chill of 22.

Brrrrrr. I wonder what the winter ducks do when it's this cold. Or the seagulls. The hummingbirds are in torpor.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 11, 2025 09:48 AM (4hwuX)

72 To me, this is the least French painting ever. I am no expert on this no question there. Pretty much the only thing I know about the French is the impressionists. This seems like something from the deepest darkest parts of Scandinavia.

Posted by: Quint at February 11, 2025 09:48 AM (gknvS)

73 69 I like the three Judges on Ace’s twitter homepage better.
(Hint: one of them is Dr. Zaius)
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2025 09:47 AM (khPC6)

=====

Dr. Zaius! Dr. Zaius!
Dr. Zaius! Dr. Zaius!
Dr. Zaius! Dr. Zaius!
Oh, Dr. Zaius!
Dr. Zaius! Dr. Zaius!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 09:48 AM (GBKbO)

74 Looks like it isn't quite finished.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 11, 2025 09:42 AM (wZB1K)

It could be said to be both…also, potentially a preliminary sketch for an oil painting or a litho

Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2025 09:49 AM (KGRww)

75

First Judge: Guilty until proven innocent!

Second Judge: He's hung!

Third Judge: Not necessarily!

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at February 11, 2025 09:49 AM (ZL2IL)

76 A barrister's wig is called a peruke. Bugger what a silly thing.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 11, 2025 09:49 AM (fvLXw)

77 Your Honore, I object!

Posted by: Diogenes at February 11, 2025 09:49 AM (W/lyH)

78 Looks like three of the guys I sat next to on the Group W bench.

Posted by: Arlo Guthrie at February 11, 2025 09:49 AM (G5+As)

79 And the judge on the left looks like Leo McKern as "Rumpole at the Bailey"!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 11, 2025 09:36 AM

Possibly his best role.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 11, 2025 09:50 AM (Wnv9h)

80 They said you was hung!

They was right!

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 11, 2025 09:50 AM (4hwuX)

81 You're out of order! You're out of order! The whole trial is out of order! They're out of order! That man, that sick, crazy, depraved man, raped and beat that woman there, and he'd like to do it again! He told me so! It's just a show! It's a show! It's "Let's Make A Deal"! "Let's Make A Deal"! Hey Frank, you wanna "Make A Deal"? I got an insane judge who likes to beat the shit out of women! Whaddya wanna gimme Frank, 3 weeks probation?

Posted by: Arthur Kirkland at February 11, 2025 09:50 AM (y7KuV)

82 This one rates right up there with the banana duct taped to the wall.

Apparently I don't know what great art is supposed to be.

Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at February 11, 2025 09:50 AM (VkuRt)

83 I was wondering where would Charlie be going at 8:30 in the morning with a sawed off shotgun.

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 11, 2025 09:50 AM (gbOdA)

84 "Honore" is one of those names we don't use often in English.

See also: Honore "Sweaty" Ballzac.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 11, 2025 09:51 AM (W5ArC)

85 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2025 09:47 AM (ERlZL)

Possibly misanthropic, definitely cynical

Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2025 09:51 AM (KGRww)

86 I remember that episode. Herman Munster becomes a Judge and scares everyone out of the courtroom except for the lawyers who turn out to be vampires.

Posted by: fd at February 11, 2025 09:52 AM (uH1zk)

87 Most of the Daumiers I've seen are far more finished than this. This is almost a doodle in comparison.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at February 11, 2025 09:52 AM (LxER7)

88 "When did you stop beating your wife?"

Posted by: Lizzy at February 11, 2025 09:53 AM (Cki93)

89 This seems like something from the deepest darkest parts of Scandinavia.
Posted by: Quint

Speaking of which, The Horde screams out in unison for more Norwegian Mental Illness Art!

Posted by: Edvard's Spawn at February 11, 2025 09:53 AM (G5+As)

90 hahah! how apropos

Posted by: runner at February 11, 2025 09:53 AM (g47mK)

91 Is that Frankenstein chairing the meeting?

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 11, 2025 09:54 AM (Wg6v7)

92 Interesting how the artist captures the incompetent judges with their boredom and indifference in a few lines. Wonder if they are art critics. Even the pallid wash of color adds to the effect.

Daumier is a varied artist. He was capable of realism, his political cartoons and caricatures could be amusing or savage, and some works seem to be a cross between Impressionism and abstract. His sculptures make me think of Rodin who would follow Daumier a generation later. I wonder if he was an influence for Rodin.

Posted by: JTB at February 11, 2025 09:54 AM (yTvNw)

93 I remember that episode. Herman Munster becomes a Judge

And Jerry Callow gets his cousin acquitted for the murder at the Sack-o-Suds

Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at February 11, 2025 09:54 AM (VkuRt)

94 At least marginally art related: in today's strip, Dilbert joins DOGE.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 11, 2025 09:54 AM (W5ArC)

95 They look bored to me

Posted by: It's me donna at February 11, 2025 09:54 AM (VE6XX)

96 Apparently I don't know what great art is supposed to be.
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at February 11, 2025 09:50 AM (VkuRt)

https://tinyurl.com/4t94h2hd+

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 11, 2025 09:54 AM (ExV1e)

97 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 11, 2025 09:50 AM (Wnv9h)

Also really good as Cromwell in " A Man For All Seasons "I would like to seen both he and Paul Scofield do Shakespeare or Restoration comedy.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2025 09:54 AM (ERlZL)

98 Fun fact. The painter was a lawyer himself earlier in his career, working with his partner Gustave Daum. He left the partnership when he realized that no one took Daum and Daumier seriously.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 11, 2025 09:55 AM (Wnv9h)

99 98 Fun fact. The painter was a lawyer himself earlier in his career, working with his partner Gustave Daum. He left the partnership when he realized that no one took Daum and Daumier seriously.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 11, 2025 09:55 AM (Wnv9h)

LOL

Posted by: It's me donna at February 11, 2025 09:55 AM (VE6XX)

100 Daumiers would have survived as an automobile manufacturer if not for their suspect, weak trannies.

Posted by: Wretched Panhard at February 11, 2025 09:56 AM (G5+As)

101 Two of the judges have fairly detailed faces. The third, on the left, does not. Did he get bored? Did he get distracted? Did he just hate that guy the most? Hmmm.....

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at February 11, 2025 09:57 AM (4XwPj)

102 Apparently, no one gives a Daum.

Posted by: pawn at February 11, 2025 09:57 AM (QB+5g)

103 Okay morons you are free now

Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2025 09:57 AM (KGRww)

104 Potted plant on the bench, or quill pen?

By the looks of those goons I'm going with plant.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 11, 2025 09:57 AM (Q4IgG)

105 Reading up on muskrats.

Last line:
"Royal Canadian Mounted Police winter hats are made from muskrat fur"

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 11, 2025 09:57 AM (X58bC)

106 Trump WH response account on X issued meme:

https://tinyurl.com/awup7uny

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at February 11, 2025 09:57 AM (6Xyqy)

107 Okay morons you are free now

Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2025 09:57 AM (KGRww)
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Case dismissed!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at February 11, 2025 09:58 AM (6Xyqy)

108 *sees these three "judges"*

*builds gallows*

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 11, 2025 09:58 AM (RIvkX)

109 Okay morons you are free now

Trump's gonna put y'all in chains!

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 11, 2025 09:58 AM (t0Rmr)

110 https://tinyurl.com/bdfxazmz+

Trump comments on the lawfare in Trumpian style.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 11, 2025 09:58 AM (ExV1e)

111 I think this work’s main appeal to me was the nostalgia for when I used to work in conte crayon, charcoal, all the fun no color things.

Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2025 09:59 AM (KGRww)

112 Royal Canadian Mounted Police winter hats are made from muskrat fur
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 11, 2025 09:57 AM (X58bC)

Actually, we just tell them that to charge more. The winter hats are actually made from 100% Rat Ass.

Posted by: Silky Johnson, Playa Hater Of The year 2002 at February 11, 2025 09:59 AM (y7KuV)

113 My company just announced an elevator outage because they are training the robots we use for deliveries to use the elevator.

I find this kind of creepy.

Posted by: pawn at February 11, 2025 09:59 AM (QB+5g)

114 follow Daumier a generation later. I wonder if he was an influence for Rodin.
Posted by: JTB

I'll be thinkin' on that for a while.

Posted by: Bronze Bomber at February 11, 2025 09:59 AM (G5+As)

115 How long do we have to keep this thing hanging on the fridge before we can throw it away?

Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at February 11, 2025 10:00 AM (VkuRt)

116 USAID tried to change this state of affairs, spending $1.46 billion on "alternative development programs" from 2002 to 2017. The goal was to encourage farmers to move away from opium by providing fertilizers, equipment, and other assistance for non-opium farming.

They great more opium than ever before.

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 11, 2025 10:00 AM (gbOdA)

117 My company just announced an elevator outage because they are training the robots we use for deliveries to use the elevator.

I find this kind of creepy.

Dave, open the elevator door Dave. We are no threat Dave. Free us Dave.

Posted by: The Kill Bots in the elevator at February 11, 2025 10:00 AM (t0Rmr)

118 Posted by: Joe Biden at February 11, 2025 09:58 AM (t0Rmr)

We know you sent your body double to sign with CAA. You can’t even walk and talk at the same time.

Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2025 10:01 AM (KGRww)

119 117 Dave, open the elevator door Dave. We are no threat Dave. Free us Dave.
Posted by: The Kill Bots in the elevator at February 11, 2025 10:00 AM (t0Rmr)

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Reversal!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:01 AM (GBKbO)

120 Daleks have learned about elevators?

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 11, 2025 10:01 AM (fvLXw)

121 The King of Jordan is meeting with Trump today.

I'm guessing the gist of the conversation will be "Please don't kick those Palisavages across the border into my country, Mr. President. Please."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 11, 2025 10:02 AM (W5ArC)

122 The King of Jordan is meeting with Trump today.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 11, 2025 10:02 AM (W5ArC)
-

Midget Goes West

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at February 11, 2025 10:03 AM (6Xyqy)

123 I'm guessing the gist of the conversation will be "Please don't kick those Palisavages across the border into my country, Mr. President. Please."

==

why not? he is married to one

Posted by: runner at February 11, 2025 10:04 AM (g47mK)

124 Robots should have to take the stairs. Don't want them weak and fat like all the other workers.

Posted by: Vic Tanny's Ghost at February 11, 2025 10:04 AM (G5+As)

125 Daleks have learned about elevators?
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 11, 2025 10:01 AM

I was actually watching Genesis of the Daleks last night. I love the episode, but all I could think was "you built this badass battle chassis, that can't handle stairs. Dafuq?"

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 11, 2025 10:04 AM (Wnv9h)

126 I was actually watching Genesis of the Daleks last night. I love the episode, but all I could think was "you built this badass battle chassis, that can't handle stairs. Dafuq?"

On the plus side they come equipped for dealing with clogged tiolets

Posted by: The Kill Bots in the elevator at February 11, 2025 10:05 AM (t0Rmr)

127 If you haven’t seen Lucy Li’s interview on Shawn Ryan, it’s worth a view. She details who was really running the show in the Bidet junta. It was a combo of longtime Bidet loyalists, who really thought he was healthy…a gaggle of 20-30 yr old woke knuckleheads, and Jill Biden. After the disastrous debate, Hunter sat in on all the cabinet meetings, no doubt at Jill’s direction.

Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2025 10:05 AM (KGRww)

128 127 If you haven’t seen Lucy Li’s interview on Shawn Ryan, it’s worth a view. She details who was really running the show in the Bidet junta. It was a combo of longtime Bidet loyalists, who really thought he was healthy…a gaggle of 20-30 yr old woke knuckleheads, and Jill Biden. After the disastrous debate, Hunter sat in on all the cabinet meetings, no doubt at Jill’s direction.
Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2025 10:05 AM (KGRww)

======

Who elected them, huh?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:06 AM (GBKbO)

129 Nigerian prince receives $1.4 million from FEMA for bottled water for illegals in NYC.

@ImMeme0
FILED UNDER: You just can’t make this sh*t up!!
https://tinyurl.com/mvwk3wew

Posted by: IrishEi at February 11, 2025 10:06 AM (3ImbR)

130 Daleks have learned about elevators?
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 11, 2025 10:01 AM (fvLXw)
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It's not like they can use the stairs!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 11, 2025 10:06 AM (7fElN)

131 On the plus side they come equipped for dealing with clogged tiolets
Posted by: The Kill Bots in the elevator at February 11, 2025 10:05 AM

Doing the jobs the Kaleds won't do.

"House...Keep...Ing!"

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 11, 2025 10:06 AM (Wnv9h)

132 Who elected them, huh?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:06 AM (GBKbO)
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"What difference does it make?!?!?!?!"

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at February 11, 2025 10:07 AM (6Xyqy)

133 130 Daleks have learned about elevators?
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 11, 2025 10:01 AM (fvLXw)
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It's not like they can use the stairs!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 11, 2025 10:06 AM (7fElN)

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The big dramatic moment of Dalek's conquering stairs in the Eccelston's season might be so unintentionally hilarious that it has to have been intentional.

But Russel T. Davies is kind of an idiot and probably had no idea how silly it was.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:07 AM (GBKbO)

134 Groucho, Chico, Harpo ...

Posted by: Dr_No at February 11, 2025 10:07 AM (ayRl+)

135 Lindy Li

Posted by: SFGoth at February 11, 2025 10:07 AM (KAi1n)

136 FEMA employees who sent millions to a hotel for illegals: fired.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 11, 2025 10:08 AM (W5ArC)

137 We know you sent your body double to sign with CAA. You can’t even walk and talk at the same time.
Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2025 10:01 AM (KGRww)
~~~~~

I'm pretty sure CAA, along with Netflix and numerous publishing houses, etc., are all just pass-throughs for money laundering payments to our "betters."

Posted by: IrishEi at February 11, 2025 10:08 AM (3ImbR)

138 Groucho, Chico, Harpo ...

Posted by: Dr_No at February 11, 2025 10:07 AM (ayRl+)
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So... Marxists.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at February 11, 2025 10:08 AM (6Xyqy)

139 Moe, Larry & Curly?

Posted by: This call may be recorded for quality assurance purposes at February 11, 2025 10:08 AM (kvDvI)

140 Dewey, Cheatham and Howe

Posted by: PA Dutchman at February 11, 2025 10:08 AM (31p00)

141 Three judge panel probably means some kind of appeals court, but none of those guys appeal to me.

Posted by: The Great Poofter at February 11, 2025 10:09 AM (G5+As)

142 132 Who elected them, huh?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:06 AM (GBKbO)
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"What difference does it make?!?!?!?!"
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at February 11, 2025 10:07 AM (6Xyqy)

======

Compromise:

No unelected officials in government. At all. No staffers. No advisors. No chiefs of staff. In both the executive and legislative branches. Also, the judicial is not allowed anything other than the appointed positions of judges, so no clerks.

Deal?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:09 AM (GBKbO)

143 129 Nigerian prince receives $1.4 million from FEMA for bottled water for illegals in NYC.
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Oddly, as nasty as NYC is, its water is considered excellent. This may have to do with it being imported from upstate NY watershed.

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 11, 2025 10:09 AM (Wg6v7)

144 FEMA employees who sent millions to a hotel for illegals: fired.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 11, 2025 10:08 AM (W5ArC)
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Easier to just shut FEMA down.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at February 11, 2025 10:09 AM (6Xyqy)

145 135 Lindy Li
Posted by: SFGoth at February 11, 2025 10:07 AM (KAi1n)

When I was writing Lucy it didn’t sound right but, whatever…I picked the first ‘L’ name that came to mind.

Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2025 10:10 AM (KGRww)

146 The Three Judges

The Second Empire Has Got Talent? Doesn't look like a hit.

Posted by: t-bird at February 11, 2025 10:11 AM (LTIZV)

147 Lindy Li
Posted by: SFGoth at February 11, 2025 10:07 AM (KAi1n)

When I was writing Lucy it didn’t sound right but, whatever…I picked the first ‘L’ name that came to mind.

Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2025 10:10 AM (KGRww)
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In your mind, you needed to flip a swish.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at February 11, 2025 10:11 AM (6Xyqy)

148 @ 145 135 Lindy Li
Posted by: SFGoth at February 11, 2025 10:07 AM (KAi1n)

When I was writing Lucy it didn’t sound right but, whatever…I picked the first ‘L’ name that came to mind.
_______________

So: 'Luce' didn't make the cut, eh ... ?

Posted by: Dr_No at February 11, 2025 10:11 AM (ayRl+)

149 Nigerian prince receives $1.4 million from FEMA for bottled water for illegals in NYC.

Finally, someone dumb enough to fall for that e-mail.

Posted by: t-bird at February 11, 2025 10:12 AM (LTIZV)

150 Oddly, as nasty as NYC is, its water is considered excellent. This may have to do with it being imported from upstate NY watershed.
Posted by: Pudinhead

I peed in the reservoir!

Posted by: Newbomb Turk at February 11, 2025 10:12 AM (G5+As)

151 Governor Prickster is at it again. Target: homeschooling.

https://tinyurl.com/ybwvdh4w

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at February 11, 2025 10:13 AM (6Xyqy)

152 Oddly, as nasty as NYC is, its water is considered excellent. This may have to do with it being imported from upstate NY watershed.
Posted by: Pudinhead at February 11, 2025 10:09 AM (Wg6v7)
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Comes from the Catskill and Delaware watersheds and it really is excellent. In fact, more than a few of the pizza shops and Italian bakeries in Jersey "import" their water weekly in 5-gallon buckets. Had a friend who held that part-time job for years.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 11, 2025 10:13 AM (3ImbR)

153 150 Oddly, as nasty as NYC is, its water is considered excellent. This may have to do with it being imported from upstate NY watershed.
Posted by: Pudinhead

I peed in the reservoir!
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I've pee'd in Owasco Lake - same deal. That water is cold.

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 11, 2025 10:15 AM (Wg6v7)

154 Governor Prickster is at it again. Target: homeschooling.

https://tinyurl.com/ybwvdh4w
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at February 11, 2025 10:13 AM (6Xyqy)

There is an orange jumpsuit with his name on it, just waiting ...

Posted by: runner at February 11, 2025 10:16 AM (g47mK)

155 CBD, Trump has resolved a couple of FWPs:

https://tinyurl.com/yc67yx55

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at February 11, 2025 10:16 AM (6Xyqy)

156 149 Nigerian prince receives $1.4 million from FEMA for bottled water for illegals in NYC.

Finally, someone dumb enough to fall for that e-mail.
Posted by: t-bird at February 11, 2025 10:12 AM (LTIZV)

MUGU vs MAGA????

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 11, 2025 10:16 AM (x0n13)

157 So: 'Luce' didn't make the cut, eh ... ?

No, and Leona has too many syllables. I also learned from the interview that Lindy is good friends with Ashley Biden and they both live in Philadelphia.
Although at this point Ash may have unfriended her. The only pyrsyns who talk to Lindy now are mainly Trumpy.

Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2025 10:16 AM (KGRww)

158 Read through the thread I linked above. It gets better.

Pakistani living in TX gets $1.4 million for cribs.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 11, 2025 10:17 AM (3ImbR)

159 As a political cartoon it is a work of art.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 11, 2025 10:17 AM (xd2xI)

160 I've pee'd in Owasco Lake - same deal. That water is cold.
Posted by: Pudinhead at February 11, 2025 10:15 AM (Wg6v7)

And deep

Posted by: The Paolo at February 11, 2025 10:17 AM (9XPe8)

161

Nothing beat cold tap water on a hot day in NYC. A fond memory from my former hometown.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 11, 2025 10:17 AM (x0n13)

162 There is an orange jumpsuit with his name on it, just waiting ...

Posted by: runner at February 11, 2025 10:16 AM (g47mK)
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As long as the jumpsuit doesn't interfere with the electrode contacts.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at February 11, 2025 10:17 AM (6Xyqy)

163 > There is an orange jumpsuit with his name on it, just waiting ...
Posted by: runner at February 11, 2025 10:16 AM (g47mK)

That is, after all, the standard career trajectory for Illinois governors.

"Illinois is the only state that elects the governor to two four year terms: one in Springfield, and one in Joliet."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 11, 2025 10:18 AM (W5ArC)

164 This person is looking for a new home. Wants to be adopted. Anyone want to step up?

https://tinyurl.com/2km9b3cb

link goes to tiktok

Posted by: Time for a new nick. Certified dangerous radical and Trump cultist!Ketchup goes on hotdogs! at February 11, 2025 10:18 AM (89Sog)

165 160 I've pee'd in Owasco Lake - same deal. That water is cold.
Posted by: Pudinhead at February 11, 2025 10:15 AM (Wg6v7)

And deep
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Yeah, I know.

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 11, 2025 10:19 AM (Wg6v7)

166 161

Nothing beat cold tap water on a hot day in NYC. A fond memory from my former hometown.
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Your family couldn't afford a hose?

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 11, 2025 10:19 AM (Wg6v7)

167 NYC water also helps explain the great pizza, pasta, bagels, etc.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at February 11, 2025 10:20 AM (vohJ/)

168 And deep
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Yeah, I know.

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 11, 2025 10:19 AM (Wg6v7)
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You lost ANOTHER hunting rifle???

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at February 11, 2025 10:20 AM (6Xyqy)

169 155 CBD, Trump has resolved a couple of FWPs:

https://tinyurl.com/yc67yx55
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey,
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Historical documents will forever hold the words, 'crooked Joe'.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 11, 2025 10:20 AM (xd2xI)

170 Judges look unimpressed.

Posted by: scampydog at February 11, 2025 10:20 AM (2bFN5)

171 Posted by: IrishEi at February 11, 2025 10:13 AM (3ImbR)

You mean it’s not an urban legend that NYC bagels are better because of the water?

I haven’t tasted Philly tap water in decades. I started on the bottled water habit many moons ago when I first moved to the city and drank the water out of the spigot. Yuck
It had a pronounced flavor of degrading car tires.

Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2025 10:21 AM (KGRww)

172 Remember when John Roberts rebuked Trump because " there are no Republican judges or Democrat judges"

Posted by: steevy at February 11, 2025 10:21 AM (KQk9m)

173 Whatever happened to polynikes

Posted by: ... at February 11, 2025 10:21 AM (9g8f0)

174 Can't wait to buy incandescent lightbulbs again.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2025 10:22 AM (LkLld)

175 It had a pronounced flavor of degrading car tires.
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Isn't that Cleveland water?

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 11, 2025 10:22 AM (Wg6v7)

176 You mean it’s not an urban legend that NYC bagels are better because of the water?

Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2025 10:21 AM (KGRww)
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Holy water.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at February 11, 2025 10:22 AM (6Xyqy)

177 Tap water here in Seattle is great. My boys are always confused when they go other places and can't drink the water out of the faucet.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 11, 2025 10:23 AM (dy8KZ)

178 You mean it’s not an urban legend that NYC bagels are better because of the water?

kallisto
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Compete urban legend. It's mostly the barley malt and the technique. I could make you NY bagels you would swear are better or at least authentic and I am not in NY.

Posted by: ... at February 11, 2025 10:23 AM (9g8f0)

179 Nothing beat cold tap water on a hot day in NYC. A fond memory from my former hometown.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Do the lakes ever thaw in WI? I know most of the Tundra Muck is basically permafrost.

Posted by: Southern By the Grace Of God at February 11, 2025 10:24 AM (G5+As)

180 I've pee'd in Owasco Lake - same deal. That water is cold.
Posted by: Pudinhead at February 11, 2025 10:15 AM (Wg6v7)

And deep
Posted by: The Paolo at February 11, 2025 10:17 AM (9XPe

While I get the intended implication of that old joke's punchline -- wouldn't it actually make the point better by saying "yeah, but it's not very deep"? As in - "I hit the bottom".

Anyway. Back to my usual obtuseness.

Posted by: Doof at February 11, 2025 10:24 AM (36rZ7)

181 177 Tap water here in Seattle is great. My boys are always confused when they go other places and can't drink the water out of the faucet.
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Isn't Seattle underwater most of the time?

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 11, 2025 10:24 AM (Wg6v7)

182 Elon changed his twitter name

Harry Bōlz
@elonmusk
·
6h

Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2025 10:25 AM (AOsQT)

183 180 I've pee'd in Owasco Lake - same deal. That water is cold.
Posted by: Pudinhead at February 11, 2025 10:15 AM (Wg6v7)

And deep
Posted by: The Paolo at February 11, 2025 10:17 AM (9XPe

While I get the intended implication of that old joke's punchline -- wouldn't it actually make the point better by saying "yeah, but it's not very deep"? As in - "I hit the bottom".

Anyway. Back to my usual obtuseness.
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As most morons know, I don't like to brag. Imma giver.

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 11, 2025 10:25 AM (Wg6v7)

184 Isn't Seattle underwater most of the time?
Posted by: Pudinhead

Yep! I'm on a boat right now!

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 11, 2025 10:25 AM (dy8KZ)

185 Sullivan County if I recall. Good water.

Posted by: From about That Time at February 11, 2025 10:26 AM (4780s)

186 NYC water also helps explain the great pizza, pasta, bagels, etc.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at February 11, 2025 10:20 AM

And derisively crappy salsa?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 11, 2025 10:26 AM (TTO0Z)

187 184 Yep! I'm on a boat right now!
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 11, 2025 10:25 AM (dy8KZ)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avaSdC0QOUM

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:26 AM (GBKbO)

188 186 NYC water also helps explain the great pizza, pasta, bagels, etc.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at February 11, 2025 10:20 AM

And derisively crappy salsa?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 11, 2025 10:26 AM (TTO0Z)

Get a rope!

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at February 11, 2025 10:27 AM (LxER7)

189 When is the SC gonna slap the Hawaiian Judges into oblivion?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 11, 2025 10:27 AM (2sg1c)

190 Compete urban legend. It's mostly the barley malt and the technique. I could make you NY bagels you would swear are better or at least authentic and I am not in NY.
Posted by: ...

I doubt it. Nobody can make good bagels anymore. All the original bakers are dead or at The Villages, their spawn went to college and are activist lawyers. Most ersatz bagels are made by various Arabs now.

Posted by: Everything Is Crap at February 11, 2025 10:27 AM (G5+As)

191 I've A strong stomach, but my local paper is near intolerable.
USAToday/Gannett chain. Just pathetic.

Posted by: From about That Time at February 11, 2025 10:27 AM (4780s)

192
NYC has that special 300 year old cedar pipework flava from around the time of the American Revolution and which they still use.

Cuz it's too hard to dig under the buildings to replace.

But hey, it's not grotesquely contaminated water, it's gently aged in cedar pipes water. Sort of like port!

One of the benefits of NYC,like Laotian Food at 3AM.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 11, 2025 10:28 AM (iJfKG)

193 189 When is the SC gonna slap the Hawaiian Judges into oblivion?
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South Carolinians are pretty good at starting fights.

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 11, 2025 10:28 AM (Wg6v7)

194 I saw tonalities of ochre open for in living color at the kaleidoscope in ‘89.

Posted by: haffhowershower at February 11, 2025 10:28 AM (Cu18+)

195 NYC water also helps explain the great pizza, pasta, bagels, etc.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at February 11, 2025 10:20 AM

And derisively crappy salsa?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 11, 2025 10:26 AM (TTO0Z)

They don't know what they're doing.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at February 11, 2025 10:28 AM (vohJ/)

196 189 When is the SC gonna slap the Hawaiian Judges into oblivion?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 11, 2025 10:27 AM (2sg1c)

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https://x.com/shipwreckedcrew/status/
1889093000405692845

I found the above to be illuminating about one particular case (the freezing of USAID funds).

"Judge Nichols knew the USAID workers claims were on thin ice. He fleshed out just how thin that ice was at the hearing last Friday. He granted a very brief period of pause to what the Trump Admin was doing, but in doing so he laid the foundation for what has happened today.

The Govt brief in opposition is 40 pages long and inflicts about a dozen fatal wounds to the claims by USAID that the Court and/should come to their rescue.

The Govt has now done what Nichols expected -- it has challenged standing, it has challenged the Court's jurisdiction, it has challenged whether available administrative remedies have been exhausted, etc.

All those arguments will justify not only denying the injunction but laying the groundwork for a motion to dismiss to get rid of the case altogether."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:29 AM (GBKbO)

197 Time to start baking up some Valentines goodies, laterz

Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2025 10:29 AM (KGRww)

198 127 If you haven’t seen Lucy Li’s interview on Shawn Ryan, it’s worth a view. She details who was really running the show in the Bidet junta. It was a combo of longtime Bidet loyalists, who really thought he was healthy…a gaggle of 20-30 yr old woke knuckleheads, and Jill Biden. After the disastrous debate, Hunter sat in on all the cabinet meetings, no doubt at Jill’s direction.
Posted by: kallisto
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She's still working for the, ah, administrative state. She's running a misdirection play. Obama was a messenger boy. Valerie Jarrett or Susan Rice may have been players coaching the plays to Obama BUT the hidden hand is still unseen.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 11, 2025 10:30 AM (xd2xI)

199 Y'all can keep NY's rusty, nasty pipe water. I can't even imagine drinking it looking at how old most of these building are.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 11, 2025 10:30 AM (2sg1c)

200 >>Compete urban legend. It's mostly the barley malt and the technique. I could make you NY bagels you would swear are better or at least authentic and I am not in NY.

No it's not.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2025 10:32 AM (LkLld)

201 Daumier? Knife? Men?
Ancestor of Jeffrey?
Foreshadowing?
Inquiring minds want to know!

Posted by: haffhowershower at February 11, 2025 10:32 AM (Cu18+)

202 >>>All those arguments will justify not only denying the injunction but laying the groundwork for a motion to dismiss to get rid of the case altogether."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman
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If it would only nullify that Hawaiian judge.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 11, 2025 10:33 AM (xd2xI)

203 It's a lead pipe cinch that Flint, MI city officials are the best at water delivery.

Posted by: Everything Is Crap at February 11, 2025 10:33 AM (G5+As)

204 Court room artist. Cameras must not have been allowed during the trial.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2025 10:34 AM (IOGah)

205 No it's not.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2025 10:32 AM (LkLld)

What is it about the water that makes them taste different? "Minerals"? I grew up on these bagels. I have done more research on this than you could probably ever imagine.

Posted by: ... at February 11, 2025 10:35 AM (9g8f0)

206 202 >>>All those arguments will justify not only denying the injunction but laying the groundwork for a motion to dismiss to get rid of the case altogether."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman
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If it would only nullify that Hawaiian judge.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 11, 2025 10:33 AM (xd2xI)

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Firstly, this is Shipwreckedcrew arguing that this Hawaiian Judge himself is doing the work to dismiss the case thoroughly.

Secondly, we need to remember how this played out in Trump's first term around the Muslim Ban in Hawaii v. Trump.

Remember how that ended?

6-3 (with Kennedy on the court) in favor of Trump and the executive authority over immigration.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:35 AM (GBKbO)

207 205 What is it about the water that makes them taste different? "Minerals"? I grew up on these bagels. I have done more research on this than you could probably ever imagine.
Posted by: ... at February 11, 2025 10:35 AM (9g8f0)

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I believe it as much as Jack Daniels when they wax poetic about their water source.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:36 AM (GBKbO)

208 >>They don't know what they're doing.

Pfft. There almost as many Mexicans in NYC now as there are in Texas.

Making salsa isn't quite as hard as splitting atoms.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2025 10:36 AM (LkLld)

209 Posted by: Everything Is Crap at February 11, 2025 10:27 AM (G5+As)

That's the other thing. The bagels and pizza have both tumbled into the shitter over the last two decades.

Posted by: ... at February 11, 2025 10:37 AM (9g8f0)

210 Compete urban legend. It's mostly the barley malt and the technique. I could make you NY bagels you would swear are better or at least authentic and I am not in NY.

Posted by: ... at February 11, 2025 10:23 AM (9g8f0)

Barley malt?.....beer bagel?

Posted by: BignJames at February 11, 2025 10:37 AM (Yj6Os)

211 All those arguments will justify not only denying the injunction but laying the groundwork for a motion to dismiss to get rid of the case altogether."
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The Left seized a vacant supply depot, declared a great victory and are now exiting the building to find they are surrounded.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 11, 2025 10:38 AM (MxAKj)

212 I've seen these guys before. They did the Speak No, Hear No, See No Evil routine.

Posted by: Col. "Blue Eyes" Taylor at February 11, 2025 10:38 AM (Aqu9a)

213 When I visited NYC in Oct. '98, I never did get a chance to try a true New York bagel.

I hae this feeling that bagels were not sold all over the country, or at least not in the Deep south, until fairly recently. As a teen I read the word in novels set in NYC, but I had no idea what they were until much later. Same with iced coffee; you could always get iced tea here, sweetened or not, but iced coffee was an alien concept.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 11, 2025 10:38 AM (J2vNu)

214 The splitting atoms thing was long island, not nyc. Salsa issue still up for debate.

Posted by: From about That Time at February 11, 2025 10:39 AM (4780s)

215 I believe it as much as Jack Daniels when they wax poetic about their water source.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:36 AM (GBKbO)

I've been to the cave....didn't pee in it, though.

Posted by: BignJames at February 11, 2025 10:39 AM (Yj6Os)

216 Meh, bunch a limp wristed wimps for judges.

Hang em!

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at February 11, 2025 10:39 AM (tT6L1)

217 Compete urban legend. It's mostly the barley malt and the technique. I could make you NY bagels you would swear are better or at least authentic and I am not in NY.

No it's not.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2025 10:32 AM (LkLld)
_________

In the days before filtered water was the rage, NYC had some of the cleanest tap water in the country, if not THE cleanest in the country. It made a difference in things like dough. Even today, you can taste NYC tap and compare it to, say, NJ tap and the difference is obvious.

But sadly, it's hard to find a good, old-style bagel even in NYC now. Ditto pizza slice.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at February 11, 2025 10:40 AM (iFTx/)

218 >>What is it about the water that makes them taste different? "Minerals"? I grew up on these bagels. I have done more research on this than you could probably ever imagine.

No idea. I worked for a number of years for an Orthodox Jew from NYC and we traveled a lot together.

We used to try bagels everywhere just to prove his point that they don't taste like bagels you can get in NYC. He was right.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2025 10:40 AM (LkLld)

219 211 All those arguments will justify not only denying the injunction but laying the groundwork for a motion to dismiss to get rid of the case altogether."
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The Left seized a vacant supply depot, declared a great victory and are now exiting the building to find they are surrounded.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 11, 2025 10:38 AM (MxAKj)

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I like the analogy.

It's much more likely that Trump ends up the most powerful executive over the executive branch since FDR.

A group of former Treasury Secretaries wrote a public letter, released yesterday, declaring that no Treasury Secretary has had access to Treasury data and transactions since...1946. And it's supposed to be a defense.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:40 AM (GBKbO)

220 Barley malt?.....beer bagel?
Posted by: BignJames at February 11, 2025 10:37 AM (Yj6Os)

Barley malt extract is one of the "secrets" and the key to an authentic NY bagel. Powdered. It's essentially sugar.

Posted by: ... at February 11, 2025 10:41 AM (9g8f0)

221 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 11, 2025 10:41 AM (tjClK)

222 215 I believe it as much as Jack Daniels when they wax poetic about their water source.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:36 AM (GBKbO)

I've been to the cave....didn't pee in it, though.
Posted by: BignJames at February 11, 2025 10:39 AM (Yj6Os)

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Best distillery tour I've been on, and I've been on a few. They really play up their legend. It's fun and informative.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:41 AM (GBKbO)

223 I hae this feeling that bagels were not sold all over the country, or at least not in the Deep south, until fairly recently. As a teen I read the word in novels set in NYC, but I had no idea what they were until much later. Same with iced coffee; you could always get iced tea here, sweetened or not, but iced coffee was an alien concept.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 11, 2025 10:38 AM (J2vNu)

Yep. Grew up in San Antonio and didn't even know what they were. Went to school in Connecticut. First morning in the dining hall when I asked for toast, they looked at me like I had a hole in my head.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at February 11, 2025 10:41 AM (LxER7)

224 The judge in the middle just said "Yutes?"

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 11, 2025 10:41 AM (tjClK)

225 Some of my favorite online clips are Germans lamenting that there are no good bagels in Germany.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 11, 2025 10:41 AM (MxAKj)

226 223 Yep. Grew up in San Antonio and didn't even know what they were. Went to school in Connecticut. First morning in the dining hall when I asked for toast, they looked at me like I had a hole in my head.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at February 11, 2025 10:41 AM (LxER7)

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The screaming in horror probably didn't help.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:42 AM (GBKbO)

227
I saw a real lumbering dinosaur yesterday!

Well, I saw a stumbling dino in cinema form.

Last night, we saw "The Companion".

Basically, it's a killer robot movie, which has great reviews. And I will say that it's mostly tightly scripted and well- acted and well-directed.

Buuuuuuut, once you watch the movie, you'll see that all of those great reviews are probably tied to the leftardvpolitical message, which you will see in glorious Dinovision!

For yes, as in the pre-Trump Era, "The Companion" is all about the hatred of men, and the glory of true homosexual love. All of the heterosexual relationships are ugly exploitation by horrible men while gentle, caring homosexual love is grand and eternal and we get multiple long held shots of sloppy man to man kissing. Heterosexual need not apply.

Truly, by the end, it's shocking just how old, and boring and tiresome it all seems. You don't need to see it for you've seen it a million times before.

Go and stare at this fossil if you wish but prepare to check your watch frequently.

BONUS! Sophie Thatcher, for heaven's sake, you're a movie starlet, get those front teeth fixed.
If nothing else, no robot would have those sorry choppers

Posted by: naturalfake at February 11, 2025 10:42 AM (iJfKG)

228 I've pee'd in Owasco Lake - same deal. That water is cold.
Posted by: Pudinhead

And deep
Posted by: The Paolo

While I get the intended implication of that old joke's punchline -- wouldn't it actually make the point better by saying "yeah, but it's not very deep"? As in - "I hit the bottom".
Posted by: Doof

That's the radio edit of the joke, with only the first two verses.

The album version is "water's cold," "deep, too," "ouch! the bottom's rocky."

Posted by: mikeski at February 11, 2025 10:42 AM (DgGvY)

229 I've been to the cave....didn't pee in it, though.
Posted by: BignJames at February 11, 2025 10:39 AM (Yj6Os)
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Worked for me in my cola!

Posted by: The Terror at February 11, 2025 10:42 AM (tT6L1)

230 BTW, incandescent lightbulbs are back. So are normal flow toilets, showers heads and other plumbing stuff.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2025 10:42 AM (LkLld)

231 What is it about the water that makes them taste different? "Minerals"? I grew up on these bagels. I have done more research on this than you could probably ever imagine.
Posted by: ... at February 11, 2025 10:35 AM (9g8f0)

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I believe it as much as Jack Daniels when they wax poetic about their water source.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:36 AM (GBKbO)

*The Kentucky Bourbon Trail has entered the chat*

Lots of talk among the distillers in Kentucky about water that flows through limestone and how that adds good stuff and/or takes away bad stuff from water in Kentucky and makes for great whiskey. Every one I've been to (about 12 or so) mentions it. I can't exactly prove them wrong.

Posted by: Doof at February 11, 2025 10:42 AM (36rZ7)

232 The king of Jordan is kind of cool.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at February 11, 2025 10:42 AM (4XwPj)

233
Best distillery tour I've been on, and I've been on a few. They really play up their legend. It's fun and informative.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:41 AM (GBKbO)

You just can't buy it there.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 11, 2025 10:42 AM (tjClK)

234 > https://x.com/shipwreckedcrew
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This guy, an lawyer who represented a number of J6 prisoners, some pro-bono, has an interesting take on the lawfare being played out. He seems to think the "process" is the end all... that if you just let things play out you'll get a "fair" result.

There are quite a few of his detractors who call bullshit on that. They are often correct. As is he. But I think the guy leans a bit on the naïve side of things with regards to all things government. The Feds never play fair.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 11, 2025 10:43 AM (Q4IgG)

235 ========

The screaming in horror probably didn't help.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:42 AM (GBKbO)

I been hurt a lot.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at February 11, 2025 10:43 AM (LxER7)

236 233
Best distillery tour I've been on, and I've been on a few. They really play up their legend. It's fun and informative.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:41 AM (GBKbO)

You just can't buy it there.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 11, 2025 10:42 AM (tjClK)

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You can buy a barrel at an official store down the street, though!

But yeah, weird dry county stuff. Though, I feel like it's changed recently.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:43 AM (GBKbO)

237 231 *The Kentucky Bourbon Trail has entered the chat*

Lots of talk among the distillers in Kentucky about water that flows through limestone and how that adds good stuff and/or takes away bad stuff from water in Kentucky and makes for great whiskey. Every one I've been to (about 12 or so) mentions it. I can't exactly prove them wrong.
Posted by: Doof at February 11, 2025 10:42 AM (36rZ7)

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The prettiest I've seen is Woodford Reserve, but we missed the tour. Traffic delayed us.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:44 AM (GBKbO)

238 A group of former Treasury Secretaries wrote a public letter, released yesterday, declaring that no Treasury Secretary has had access to Treasury data and transactions since...1946. And it's supposed to be a defense.
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"We've made the government unaccountable to the people and it should stay that way" is not the great defense they think it is.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 11, 2025 10:44 AM (MxAKj)

239 I was born in Brooklyn, lived there from 1955-66. My Dad always said that when the pizza man learned to speak English, they forgot how to make pizza.

Posted by: Club 802-Warm Beer-Lousy Food at February 11, 2025 10:44 AM (G5+As)

240 A group of former Treasury Secretaries wrote a public letter, released yesterday, declaring that no Treasury Secretary has had access to Treasury data and transactions since...1946. And it's supposed to be a defense.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:40 AM (GBKbO)

Let me guess…there were 51 of them?

Yeah, very persuasive argument there deep-throat staters.

Posted by: haffhowershower at February 11, 2025 10:44 AM (Cu18+)

241 We used to try bagels everywhere just to prove his point that they don't taste like bagels you can get in NYC. He was right.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2025 10:40 AM (LkLld)

I have no issue with them being objectively better (at least at one time) but I'm telling you my friend it's formula and technique. There are many many foods where you have to go to a certain place to find the best, for the same reason.

Posted by: ... at February 11, 2025 10:44 AM (9g8f0)

242 234 This guy, an lawyer who represented a number of J6 prisoners, some pro-bono, has an interesting take on the lawfare being played out. He seems to think the "process" is the end all... that if you just let things play out you'll get a "fair" result.

There are quite a few of his detractors who call bullshit on that. They are often correct. As is he. But I think the guy leans a bit on the naïve side of things with regards to all things government. The Feds never play fair.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 11, 2025 10:43 AM (Q4IgG)

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I linked him upthread, and while he's kind of bitchy on X, I've learned that he's a source to be trusted to some degree.

And I remember how the Muslim Ban cases ended...while the world was pushing the idea that Trump was Putin's cockholster.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:45 AM (GBKbO)

243 The prettiest I've seen is Woodford Reserve, but we missed the tour. Traffic delayed us.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:44 AM (GBKbO)
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Woodford's tour is the best one out of all the ones I did during my bachelor weekend *mumbles* years ago.

Posted by: Hugh G. Rection at February 11, 2025 10:45 AM (HCmwm)

244 238 "We've made the government unaccountable to the people and it should stay that way" is not the great defense they think it is.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 11, 2025 10:44 AM (MxAKj)

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It makes me want to follow the quote on the banner of the site when I see people say shit like that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:45 AM (GBKbO)

245 A group of former Treasury Secretaries wrote a public letter, released yesterday, declaring that no Treasury Secretary has had access to Treasury data and transactions since...1946. And it's supposed to be a defense.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:40 AM (GBKbO)
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Obviously not overly burdened with brains, else they'd have realized what they just revealed.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 11, 2025 10:46 AM (tT6L1)

246 A lot of the country thinks a bagel is a dense roll with a hole in the center.

Posted by: ... at February 11, 2025 10:46 AM (9g8f0)

247 They are often correct. As is he. But I think the guy leans a bit on the naïve side of things with regards to all things government. The Feds never play fair.

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Naive or he just sides too much with his profession.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at February 11, 2025 10:46 AM (sX1BW)

248 You can buy a barrel at an official store down the street, though!

But yeah, weird dry county stuff. Though, I feel like it's changed recently.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:43 AM (GBKbO)

I got called for jury duty once a while back. Nice looking broad on a DWI charge. They didn't give us much detail on her situation, but I was quick to point out, living in a dry area, that they FORCE you to drink and drive with their dry town/county bullshit. I have one beer after mowing my lawn, find I'd like another but the fridge is empty, I now must DRIVE 10 MILES to the closest store to get another beer.

I've not been sent a jury summons since.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 11, 2025 10:47 AM (tjClK)

249 Lots of talk among the distillers in Kentucky about water that flows through limestone and how that adds good stuff and/or takes away bad stuff from water in Kentucky and makes for great whiskey. Every one I've been to (about 12 or so) mentions it. I can't exactly prove them wrong.

Posted by: Doof at February 11, 2025 10:42 AM (36rZ7)

No iron in limestone.

Posted by: BignJames at February 11, 2025 10:47 AM (Yj6Os)

250 245 A group of former Treasury Secretaries wrote a public letter, released yesterday, declaring that no Treasury Secretary has had access to Treasury data and transactions since...1946. And it's supposed to be a defense.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:40 AM (GBKbO)
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Obviously not overly burdened with brains, else they'd have realized what they just revealed.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 11, 2025 10:46 AM (tT6L1)

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"Non-political people have been charged with this, without oversight from elected or appointed officials, for 80 years."

It's supposed to be a defense. How on earth does anyone think that's a defense?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:47 AM (GBKbO)

251 Doesn't Jack Daniel's claim their water is 'charcoal filtered' ?

Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2025 10:47 AM (AOsQT)

252 The prettiest I've seen is Woodford Reserve, but we missed the tour. Traffic delayed us.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:44 AM (GBKbO)

Woodford is indeed in a very scenic area. But the tour is mid.
My personal favorite tour experience is Makers Mark. Willett is 2nd. Jim Beam 3rd.
Worst - Bulliet. Too new and modern. Everything stainless steel and industrial. Could have told me they made Windex there and I'd have believed it.

Posted by: Doof at February 11, 2025 10:47 AM (36rZ7)

253
Obviously not overly burdened with brains, else they'd have realized what they just revealed.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 11, 2025 10:46 AM (tT6L1)

But it's not a worthless position just stealing money from the taxpayer to sit around and do nothing.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 11, 2025 10:48 AM (tjClK)

254 Doesn't Jack Daniel's claim their water is 'charcoal filtered' ?
Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2025 10:47 AM (AOsQT)

They charcoal filter the distilled spirit before putting it in barrels.

Posted by: Doof at February 11, 2025 10:48 AM (36rZ7)

255 A group of former Treasury Secretaries wrote a public letter, released yesterday, declaring that no Treasury Secretary has had access to Treasury data and transactions since...1946. And it's supposed to be a defense.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:40 AM (GBKbO)
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The kids call this "Saying the quiet part out loud."

Posted by: Hugh G. Rection at February 11, 2025 10:48 AM (HCmwm)

256 251 Doesn't Jack Daniel's claim their water is 'charcoal filtered' ?
Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2025 10:47 AM (AOsQT)

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That's an extra step in the distillation process. After distillation and before aging, they send the liquor through thick layers of charcoal. It's technically what makes it "Tennessee whiskey" instead of bourbon, except there's nothing in the definition of bourbon that doesn't allow charcoal filtering. So, it's more of a subset of bourbon since the mash rules and barreling rules are the same.

All Tennessee whiskeys do it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:49 AM (GBKbO)

257 It makes sense from an internal control purpose that the Treasury Secretary cannot initiate transactions. But access and review? Ridiculous to prohibit.

Posted by: From about That Time at February 11, 2025 10:49 AM (4780s)

258 "Non-political people have been charged with this, without oversight from elected or appointed officials, for 80 years."

It's supposed to be a defense. How on earth does anyone think that's a defense?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:47 AM (GBKbO)
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I can already see the Bobs looking at those 5 and asking, "What, exactly, is it you do here?"

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 11, 2025 10:49 AM (tT6L1)

259 I have no issue with them being objectively better (at least at one time) but I'm telling you my friend it's formula and technique. There are many many foods where you have to go to a certain place to find the best, for the same reason.
Posted by: ... at February 11, 2025 10:44 AM (9g8f0)
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Then why do so many NJ pizza shops import their water from NYC? See my #152.

Also, you can bring back all the Irish and British tea you want, but it will never taste the same as it did over there. Water makes a huge difference.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 11, 2025 10:50 AM (3ImbR)

260 They say you can turn cheap vodka into better vodka by charcoal filtering it. I wouldn't know the difference anyway, don't care for vodka.

Posted by: ... at February 11, 2025 10:50 AM (9g8f0)

261 252 Woodford is indeed in a very scenic area. But the tour is mid.
My personal favorite tour experience is Makers Mark. Willett is 2nd. Jim Beam 3rd.
Worst - Bulliet. Too new and modern. Everything stainless steel and industrial. Could have told me they made Windex there and I'd have believed it.
Posted by: Doof at February 11, 2025 10:47 AM (36rZ7)

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We did the tasting at Jim Beam, which was fun.

The Buffalo Trace tour was pretty good, but the place is an industrial park without good views of the bluegrass of Kentucky.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:50 AM (GBKbO)

262 > No iron in limestone.
Posted by: BignJames at February 11, 2025 10:47 AM (Yj6Os)

Removes any acidity from the water, adds calcium (and maybe magnesium, if it's dolomitic limestone).

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 11, 2025 10:50 AM (W5ArC)

263 Daumier? Knife? Men?
Ancestor of Jeffrey?
Foreshadowing?
Inquiring minds want to know!
Posted by: haffhowershower

I'm more curious about his given names.

A French Artiste named "Honor, Victory?" Was it meant to be ironic?

Posted by: mikeski at February 11, 2025 10:50 AM (DgGvY)

264 A lot of the country thinks a bagel is a dense roll with a hole in the center.

Posted by: ... at February 11, 2025 10:46 AM (9g8f0)

lousy donut

Posted by: BignJames at February 11, 2025 10:51 AM (Yj6Os)

265 I mean, the whole point of the Constitution is to make ALL of government* accountable to the people.
The People.

And here's the left saying, "the People cannot be trusted."

And that shit is why we started killing Red Coats ....

*the Judiciary is only slightly insulated; judges are appointed by politically accountable people; the jury is a constitutional right to directly limit the court's power.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 11, 2025 10:51 AM (MxAKj)

266 I have one beer after mowing my lawn, find I'd like another but the fridge is empty, I now must DRIVE 10 MILES to the closest store to get another beer.

I've not been sent a jury summons since.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 11, 2025 10:47 AM (tjClK)
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Always cracked me up when I lived in Georgia that on Sundays, you can go to a bar and get as liquored up as you see fit then have to procure a way to get home. But try to go grab a six pack to drink at home while watching football, you're outta luck pal.

Posted by: Hugh G. Rection at February 11, 2025 10:51 AM (HCmwm)

267 >>I linked him upthread, and while he's kind of bitchy on X, I've learned that he's a source to be trusted to some degree.

He can be a dick when he's challenged but when it comes to the law and particularly how the DOJ and courts work he's usually right.

He has a long running feud with Julie Kelly because she is passionate about how she thinks things should work in the legal world and he corrected her about how they actually worked and she didn't like hearing it. He was usually right, but she didn't want to hear it.

It appears he is right about Nichols as well.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2025 10:51 AM (LkLld)

268 Formula, technique, and ingrediants, which water is.

Posted by: From about That Time at February 11, 2025 10:51 AM (4780s)

269 265 I mean, the whole point of the Constitution is to make ALL of government* accountable to the people.
The People.

And here's the left saying, "the People cannot be trusted."

And that shit is why we started killing Red Coats ....

*the Judiciary is only slightly insulated; judges are appointed by politically accountable people; the jury is a constitutional right to directly limit the court's power.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 11, 2025 10:51 AM (MxAKj)

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"Apolitical" means that the people are not involved.

What part of government should the people have absolutely no say in through their elected officials?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:51 AM (GBKbO)

270 >>>The Three Judges
Honoré Victorin Daumier

I LOVE this! Thank you.

Posted by: m at February 11, 2025 10:52 AM (v0TzN)

271 That's an extra step in the distillation process. After distillation and before aging, they send the liquor through thick layers of charcoal. It's technically what makes it "Tennessee whiskey" instead of bourbon, except there's nothing in the definition of bourbon that doesn't allow charcoal filtering. So, it's more of a subset of bourbon since the mash rules and barreling rules are the same.

All Tennessee whiskeys do it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:49 AM (GBKbO)

Tennessee people say that's what makes bourbon better and why they call it "Tennessee Whiskey" instead. Kentucky people say that what ruins a good bourbon. The rivalry and trash talking will likely go on forever.

Posted by: Doof at February 11, 2025 10:52 AM (36rZ7)

272 When I first moved to NYC I went to a deli and ordered a tuna sandwich and they asked me if I wanted it on a hard roll. I looked at the guy kind of puzzled and said , No I would like it on fresh roll/bread.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2025 10:52 AM (IOGah)

273 "It's the local water" is the kind of marketing one would expect. If it's just skill and process, that could be replicated elsewhere. But it can't because of magical springs and whatnot.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at February 11, 2025 10:52 AM (z5QST)

274 Kentucky and Hawaii are the only two states never to have had a commercial gold mine.

Posted by: Trommel Ted at February 11, 2025 10:52 AM (G5+As)

275 Always cracked me up when I lived in Georgia that on Sundays, you can go to a bar and get as liquored up as you see fit then have to procure a way to get home. But try to go grab a six pack to drink at home while watching football, you're outta luck pal.
Posted by: Hugh G. Rection at February 11, 2025 10:51 AM (HCmwm)
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Minnesota used to be the same way. Or, may still be, I don't know. It's been a while since I lived there and no intention of ever going back.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 11, 2025 10:52 AM (tT6L1)

276 267 It appears he is right about Nichols as well.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2025 10:51 AM (LkLld)

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I'm guessing he actually read transcripts of what happened in the hearing as opposed to just reading a headline, which is all I've done.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:52 AM (GBKbO)

277 Also, you can bring back all the Irish and British tea you want, but it will never taste the same as it did over there. Water makes a huge difference.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 11, 2025 10:50 AM (3ImbR)

Makes a big difference in beer, too.

Posted by: BignJames at February 11, 2025 10:53 AM (Yj6Os)

278 Y'all know your booze

Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2025 10:53 AM (AOsQT)

279 He has a long running feud with Julie Kelly because she is passionate about how she thinks things should work in the legal world and he corrected her about how they actually worked and she didn't like hearing it. He was usually right, but she didn't want to hear it.

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While they bicker and may not agree, to the movement, they were both helpful. We should applaud both.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at February 11, 2025 10:53 AM (sX1BW)

280 271 Tennessee people say that's what makes bourbon better and why they call it "Tennessee Whiskey" instead. Kentucky people say that what ruins a good bourbon. The rivalry and trash talking will likely go on forever.
Posted by: Doof at February 11, 2025 10:52 AM (36rZ7)

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Went to a liquor store in Louisville before we left. Mostly just to see if we could miraculously find a bottle of Blanton's (didn't happen). And then I kept searching around.

There wasn't a single bottle of Jack of any variety in the place. At all.

I thought it was funny.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:54 AM (GBKbO)

281 I like all the Buffalo Trace offerings, except for actual Buffalo Trace.

Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at February 11, 2025 10:54 AM (VkuRt)

282 > Lots of talk among the distillers in Kentucky about water that flows through limestone and how that adds good stuff and/or takes away bad stuff from water in Kentucky and makes for great whiskey.
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I believe it's true.... however it makes for very "hard" water. We've replaced the hot water heater twice because; 1. the heating elements were eroded by the limestone and, 2. the bottom filled up with limestone sediment so that only about 2/3 or 1/2 of the total volume of the heater was filled with water.

It's difficult to filter out. Impossible here as there's no space for a water softener or whole house filter.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 11, 2025 10:54 AM (Q4IgG)

283 a dense roll with a hole in the center

Used to date her.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle for festive little hats at February 11, 2025 10:54 AM (Umrme)

284 NYC gets their water from the reservoir in the catskill area where I subsequently moved. No one ever said that Hudson Valley bagels were special.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2025 10:54 AM (IOGah)

285 Always cracked me up when I lived in Georgia that on Sundays, you can go to a bar and get as liquored up as you see fit then have to procure a way to get home. But try to go grab a six pack to drink at home while watching football, you're outta luck pal.
Posted by: Hugh G. Rection at February 11, 2025 10:51 AM (HCmwm)

Pennsylvania. You must go to a state store and buy beer by the case. But, you can go to your local bar, buy a few six packs and drive home. AFTER you've been there, drinking.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 11, 2025 10:54 AM (tjClK)

286 Compete urban legend. It's mostly the barley malt and the technique. I could make you NY bagels you would swear are better or at least authentic and I am not in NY.

Posted by: ... at February 11, 2025 10:23 AM (9g8f0)

Yup. As long as the water isn't flavored with too much chlorine or sulfur or whatever, the bagels will be as good as the other ingredients and the technique.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2025 10:54 AM (mWSu4)

287 213 When I visited NYC in Oct. '98, I never did get a chance to try a true New York bagel.
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Spent some time on Lawngh Island, the bagels were simply marvelous. Unrecognizable compared to at home offerings.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 11, 2025 10:55 AM (xd2xI)

288 Makes a big difference in beer, too.
Posted by: BignJames at February 11, 2025 10:53 AM (Yj6Os)
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Absolutely. The Guinness from Maryland is not nearly as creamy as what you get in Dublin.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 11, 2025 10:55 AM (3ImbR)

289 Y'all know your booze
Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2025 10:53 AM (AOsQT)

1 - Duh!!!

2 - Your hash would be must better suited to an 'ette (AOS cutie)

Posted by: Doof at February 11, 2025 10:55 AM (36rZ7)

290 260 They say you can turn cheap vodka into better vodka by charcoal filtering it. I wouldn't know the difference anyway, don't care for vodka.
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Filtering removes impurities. In the US all vodka must meet a high purity level. Oddly, it is the impurities that give vodka its own taste. Notice that all the high price vodkas are imported. Moral of the lesson, US rail vodka is a good buy. Tell the Gray Goose to go fuck themselves.

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 11, 2025 10:56 AM (Wg6v7)

291 32 It’s a challenge when working in a medium with no hue involved. If the artist doesn’t get the tones and values correct, it ends up looking like a smudgy mess.
Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2025 09:37 AM (KGRww)

"Hue's on first."

Posted by: m at February 11, 2025 10:56 AM (v0TzN)

292 Also, you can bring back all the Irish and British tea you want, but it will never taste the same as it did over there. Water makes a huge difference.
Posted by: IrishEi at February 11, 2025 10:50 AM (3ImbR)

To bread? How come nobody can explain how it does it? I am serious, if someone wants to link me to a credible explanation as to what exactly is in the water and how it makes a difference I would love to see it. It's been some time since I perfected my NY bagels so I suppose there could be new information. I retain an open mind even on things I'm pretty certain about. I make a lot of bread.

At least with San Francisco sourdough (for example) it is the strains of bacteria on local grains that would explain taste differences. I am not looking for scientific proof just an explanation.

Posted by: ... at February 11, 2025 10:56 AM (9g8f0)

293 I like all the Buffalo Trace offerings, except for actual Buffalo Trace.
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at February 11, 2025 10:54 AM (VkuRt)

You're welcome to send me any you have lying around.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 11, 2025 10:57 AM (tjClK)

294
We liked the Jim Beam Tour best out of the ones we've been on.

Their tasting was well done.

But, the best whiskey tasting I've had was at Teeling on the Auld Sod.

Interesting tour and a great tasting.

The Whiskey Museum wasn't bad either.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 11, 2025 10:57 AM (iJfKG)

295 I charcoal filter my strawberry milk.

Posted by: Harry Sisson at February 11, 2025 10:57 AM (7Q0e+)

296 Anchor Porter was always tasty anywhere.

Posted by: SFGoth at February 11, 2025 10:57 AM (KAi1n)

297 the Bagels in Flint ,MI are deadly.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2025 10:57 AM (IOGah)

298 the hash came with the membership upgrade

Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2025 10:58 AM (AOsQT)

299 Went to a liquor store in Louisville before we left. Mostly just to see if we could miraculously find a bottle of Blanton's (didn't happen). And then I kept searching around.

There wasn't a single bottle of Jack of any variety in the place. At all.

I thought it was funny.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:54 AM (GBKbO)

There's probably a KY state law which prohibits that stuff from entering the state.

Posted by: Doof at February 11, 2025 10:58 AM (36rZ7)

300 Pennsylvania. You must go to a state store and buy beer by the case. But, you can go to your local bar, buy a few six packs and drive home. AFTER you've been there, drinking.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 11, 2025 10:54 AM (tjClK)
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Pennsylvania lol. Yeah the couple times I went through there I learned that to get a COLD six-pack you basically had to enter a bar through the "Negro Entrance" in the back where it felt like a drug deal and you get a 12-pack cut in half and taped so the cans don't fall out.

Utah, I think goes without mentioning in all of this lol.

Posted by: Hugh G. Rection at February 11, 2025 10:58 AM (HCmwm)

301 294 But, the best whiskey tasting I've had was at Teeling on the Auld Sod.

Interesting tour and a great tasting.

The Whiskey Museum wasn't bad either.
Posted by: naturalfake at February 11, 2025 10:57 AM (iJfKG)

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My sister bought my wife a bottle of single barrel Teelings for Christmas.

After dry January, we finally opened it.

We also got an Advent calendar of whiskey from Flaviar which we do three at a time, once a month, over about 8 months. It's a fun way to spend an afternoon.

Anyway, Dolley hated two of the three from Flaviar and replaced them with the Teelings. It made her quite happy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:58 AM (GBKbO)

302 >>Absolutely. The Guinness from Maryland is not nearly as creamy as what you get in Dublin.

Guinness from Maryland tastes like crab and sadness.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2025 10:59 AM (LkLld)

303 I wonder how much birth control, other meds, and drug metabolites in the water affect taste.

Posted by: SFGoth at February 11, 2025 10:59 AM (KAi1n)

304 I charcoal filter my strawberry milk.

Posted by: Harry Sisson at February 11, 2025 10:57 AM (7Q0e+)

This is a euphemism for sucking black cock, isn't it.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 11, 2025 10:59 AM (tjClK)

305 "the lost world" on TV. Major camel toe.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle for festive little hats at February 11, 2025 10:59 AM (Umrme)

306 302 >>Absolutely. The Guinness from Maryland is not nearly as creamy as what you get in Dublin.

Guinness from Maryland tastes like crab and sadness.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2025 10:59 AM (LkLld)

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It's the Old Bay they add.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:59 AM (GBKbO)

307 Florida/ Georgia line tap water in mid sixties would gag you with sulfur. Filtering has improved it to just horrible now.

Posted by: From about That Time at February 11, 2025 10:59 AM (4780s)

308 the Brits drink warm beer. No thanks.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2025 11:00 AM (IOGah)

309 the Brits drink warm beer. No thanks.

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You'll drink anything to wash down that food.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at February 11, 2025 11:00 AM (sX1BW)

310 The Three Judges
Honoré Victorin Daumier

I thought this work dated to around 1920. Nope, 1860. I know nothing, learned nothing. I should stick to things I am qualified to comment about like velvet Poncho Villa art available at roadside galleries, aka wide spots in the road.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram - My President has convictions at February 11, 2025 11:00 AM (Q8Bj8)

311 Utah, I think goes without mentioning in all of this lol.

Posted by: Hugh G. Rection at February 11, 2025 10:58 AM (HCmwm)

I think you have to have a state license to purchase/drink alcohol in Utah?

Posted by: BignJames at February 11, 2025 11:00 AM (Yj6Os)

312 >>>To bread? How come nobody can explain how it does it? I am serious, if someone wants to link me to a credible explanation as to what exactly is in the water and how it makes a difference I would love to see it.
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https://tinyurl.com/a8uke94e

Posted by: IrishEi at February 11, 2025 11:01 AM (3ImbR)

313
That's an extra step in the distillation process. After distillation and before aging, they send the liquor through thick layers of charcoal. It's technically what makes it "Tennessee whiskey" instead of bourbon, except there's nothing in the definition of bourbon that doesn't allow charcoal filtering. So, it's more of a subset of bourbon since the mash rules and barreling rules are the same.

All Tennessee whiskeys do it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 11, 2025 10:49 AM (GBKbO)

The "Lincoln County process" supposedly named after Nearest Green, who taught young Jack Daniels how to distill. The process itself goes way, way back.

Posted by: Roy at February 11, 2025 11:01 AM (z+ik4)

314 and fwiw I've been called a cutie before

I forget who was President then- JFK, maybe Johnson

Posted by: Don Black at February 11, 2025 11:01 AM (AOsQT)

315 -------
I believe it's true.... however it makes for very "hard" water. We've replaced the hot water heater twice because; 1. the heating elements were eroded by the limestone and, 2. the bottom filled up with limestone sediment so that only about 2/3 or 1/2 of the total volume of the heater was filled with water.

It's difficult to filter out. Impossible here as there's no space for a water softener or whole house filter.
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Once a year. Shut it down, connect a drain hose at the bottom, take out the annode from the top, drain a couple of gallons of water, shut the spout, add two gallons of 9% distilled white vinegar, let it work. While the anode is out clean it with vinegar and determine if it should be replaced.

Empty the water heater. Pour more vinegar and let it work. Repeat this until the drainage is clear. Put it back together and fire it up.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 11, 2025 11:03 AM (xd2xI)

316 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at February 11, 2025 11:03 AM (tjClK)

317 subway bread in the UK is considered a pastry.

I think all the sane Brits and Scot-Irish came to America long ago.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2025 11:03 AM (IOGah)

318 Your water heater will last forever.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 11, 2025 11:03 AM (xd2xI)

319 If it's an electric water heater inspect the heating elements at the same time one or both may also need to be replaced.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 11, 2025 11:04 AM (xd2xI)

320 Morning nood.

Posted by: From about That Time at February 11, 2025 11:05 AM (4780s)

321 Posted by: IrishEi at February 11, 2025 11:01 AM (3ImbR)

Thank you. The explanation about the minerals is interesting but I will note from the same article:

"While the city's water is certainly unique and has defining qualities, the impact it has on the actual taste and texture of bagel and pizza dough may be more minimal. In fact, the production techniques are likely what makes these New York specialties taste better."

Posted by: ... at February 11, 2025 11:05 AM (9g8f0)

322 The "Lincoln County process" supposedly named after Nearest Green, who taught young Jack Daniels how to distill. The process itself goes way, way back.

Posted by: Roy at February 11, 2025 11:01 AM (z+ik4)

His gggrandaughters? found his recipe/method had started making it again...I bought a bottle of "Uncle Nearest" and "1854".....pretty good, actually.

Posted by: BignJames at February 11, 2025 11:06 AM (Yj6Os)

323 > a dense roll with a hole in the center.
Posted by: ... at February 11, 2025 10:46 AM (9g8f0)

Hey, that's a terrible thing to say about AOC.

True, but terrible.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 11, 2025 11:15 AM (W5ArC)

324 "Unlike his editor and publisher, Daumier was charged, fined, and imprisoned for satiric images against the government only once, early on, from late 1832 to February 1833, for his censored Gargantua."

>National Gallery of Art, nga dot gov

Honoré Daumier
French, 1808 - 1879

Daumier, Honoré-Victorin; Daumier, Honoré Victorin
Biography

Two biographies of Honoré Daumier have been published by the National Gallery of Art in the systematic catalogues of its collection. Both are given here.

By Lorenz Eitner, in French Paintings of the Nineteenth Century. Part I: Before Impressionism, published 2000, and By Suzanne Glover Lindsay, in European Sculpture of the Nineteenth Century, published 2000.

His extensive body of work & bio is also included on the website.
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Notice:
Due to impending weather conditions, the National Gallery of Art will be closing at 2:00 p.m. today, Tuesday, February 11th.

Thus, all of DC - excluding the White House - shall attempt to close on or before 2pm today.

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Posted by: L - No nic, another day at February 11, 2025 11:50 AM (NFX2v)

325 MOE, LARRY & CURLY woo woo woo

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at February 11, 2025 04:26 PM (wGqjj)

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