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Trump to Gut USAID; Deep State Strikes Back as Unions Sue
Holy crap: Rubio has calculated how many USAID "workers" are really needed:
Kyle Becker
@kylenabecker JUST IN: Secretary of State @MarcoRubio has just informed USAID workers that he only needs 294 of them. There are 14,000 people who work at the agency. The DOGE Effect.
@EricLDaugh JUST IN: The Environmental Protection Agency just put 168 staffers on administrative leave - POLITICO
Vinay Prasad MD MPHMXMNews:
@VPrasadMDMPH
If you try to cut government with a scalpel, people inside the organization divert the funds and subvert the cuts, rename projects, or wait you out. (A lot of the chaos now is malicious compliance) Sometimes the only solution is to use a sword.
The Trump administration has unveiled a plan to slash the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), cutting its global workforce from thousands to fewer than 300 employees. The move is part of a broader effort to restructure foreign aid, drawing legal challenges from federal workers' groups who argue the president lacks authority to dismantle a congressionally established agency.The Swamp counter-attacks Trump with, get this, more lawfare:
Key Details: The plan, presented Thursday, would leave only 300 USAID staffers from a current workforce of 8,000 direct hires and contractors, with thousands of locally hired international staff also facing uncertainty. The administration has not confirmed whether the cuts will be permanent. Nearly all USAID workers posted abroad were given 30 days to return to the U.S., with government-covered relocation costs. Those staying longer without a hardship waiver may have to fund their own expenses. Federal workers' associations have sued the administration, arguing that shuttering USAID requires congressional approval. Meanwhile, Secretary of State Marco Rubio defended the move, saying U.S. aid will continue but will be refocused on national interests.
Unions representing federal employees are taking legal action against the Trump administration's efforts to shut down USAID, claiming the move threatens thousands of jobs and disrupts global humanitarian aid. The lawsuit, filed Thursday, names President Trump, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, and other officials as defendants. The administration, through DOGE, implemented a swift reduction in USAID's operations over the weekend, locking employees out of internal systems and putting thousands on administrative leave. Critics of USAID's shutdown argue the move jeopardizes national security and weakens U.S. influence abroad. However, Trump's allies contend that USAID has long been a bloated and inefficient agency, spending billions in taxpayer dollars with little accountability. In their lawsuit, the unions claim the shutdown has created a "global humanitarian crisis" and are seeking an injunction to stop further actions. They are pushing for the reopening of USAID offices, the resumption of grants and contracts, and a reversal of furlough notices.I've been worried about inflation -- how is Trump going to cut it? We don't want the fed keeping interest rates high forever. That throttles the economy. But chopping down government spending, which pays people out in freshly-printed Fantasy Dollars, will be a big help. Elon Musk pointed out that 90% of USAID's payments go to recipients in the, get this, Washington DC area. It's just a funding mechanism for the left. It's just guaranteed employment for leftwing operatives when they're out of government. Yes, I'm sure a fraction of that money is eventually paid out to people in the developing world -- after it's laundered through a dozen leftwing NGOs and all the parasites of the left have taken their share.
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Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 07, 2025 12:01 PM (kAFFE)
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Posted by: Minuteman at February 07, 2025 12:01 PM (4YOYC)
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I'm shocked it took them this long. They must have needed to find the angle to sue that won't cost them when they lose.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 07, 2025 12:01 PM (kAFFE)
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FREE PUFF
Posted by: Ye at February 07, 2025 12:02 PM (Y7jjA)
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Lawfare.... there's a shocker.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 07, 2025 12:02 PM (Q4IgG)
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Cut. That. Spending.
Posted by: XTC at February 07, 2025 12:02 PM (sm6Pk)
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SPONGE!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 07, 2025 12:03 PM (xcxpd)
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Read the content!
Posted by: Inogame at February 07, 2025 12:03 PM (53oGX)
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In their lawsuit, the unions claim the shutdown has created a "global humanitarian crisis" and are seeking an injunction to stop further actions. They are pushing for the reopening of USAID offices, the resumption of grants and contracts, and a reversal of furlough notices.
So? What's that got to do with us?
They want help, let them pay tribute.
So? What's that got to do with us?
They want help, let them pay tribute.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at February 07, 2025 12:03 PM (0eaVi)
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And hopefully Trump will counter the lawfare and win.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 07, 2025 12:03 PM (xcxpd)
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I've been worried about inflation -- how is Trump going to cut it? We don't want the fed keeping interest rates high forever. That throttles the economy.
But chopping down government spending, which pays people out in freshly-printed Fantasy Dollars, will be a big help.
Posted by: Ace at 12:00 PM
Yes. Stop deficit spending is the BEST way to bring down inflation.
(Paying down debt would be great, too)
But chopping down government spending, which pays people out in freshly-printed Fantasy Dollars, will be a big help.
Posted by: Ace at 12:00 PM
Yes. Stop deficit spending is the BEST way to bring down inflation.
(Paying down debt would be great, too)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 07, 2025 12:03 PM (kAFFE)
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 07, 2025 12:04 PM (t/2Uw)
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Bets on Congress reauthorizing USAID in the next must pass omnibus that gets introduced 12 hours before the deadline?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:04 PM (GBKbO)
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#LearnToWorkWithout
TheGovernmentTeat
TheGovernmentTeat
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at February 07, 2025 12:04 PM (Vyll1)
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A scalpel? A sword? No. I prefer the Rick Dalton Method.
Posted by: ... at February 07, 2025 12:04 PM (Ja2Pp)
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No one voted for Big Balls.
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 07, 2025 12:04 PM (KWujZ)
Posted by: Inogame at February 07, 2025 12:04 PM (53oGX)
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Interest rates aren't high. They're normal.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 07, 2025 12:04 PM (63Dwl)
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I've been worried about inflation -- how is Trump going to cut it? We don't want the fed keeping interest rates high forever. That throttles the economy.
But chopping down government spending, which pays people out in freshly-printed Fantasy Dollars, will be a big help.
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That, plus cutting out regulation (which exploded under Biden, dwarfing even Obama's reign), especially around energy, will have a concentrated effect.
But chopping down government spending, which pays people out in freshly-printed Fantasy Dollars, will be a big help.
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That, plus cutting out regulation (which exploded under Biden, dwarfing even Obama's reign), especially around energy, will have a concentrated effect.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:05 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at February 07, 2025 12:05 PM (Vs9uA)
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But chopping down government spending, which pays people out in freshly-printed Fantasy Dollars, will be a big help.
How much is a hand-job in Fantasy Dollars?
How much is a hand-job in Fantasy Dollars?
Posted by: Horny Former Fed Employee at February 07, 2025 12:05 PM (JCZqz)
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Given what Musk did to the last omnibus bill I suspect there is zero chance USAID being hidden away anywhere...not now there are eyes everywhere watching!
Posted by: Mailman at February 07, 2025 12:05 PM (eHbg6)
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17 14,000 to 294?
This is one of many... how much fluff is there... million+ is my estimate.
Posted by: Inogame at February 07, 2025 12:04 PM (53oGX)
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If USAID's sole purpose is to get rice to starving populations around the world, do you need 14,000 people to do it?
This is one of many... how much fluff is there... million+ is my estimate.
Posted by: Inogame at February 07, 2025 12:04 PM (53oGX)
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If USAID's sole purpose is to get rice to starving populations around the world, do you need 14,000 people to do it?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:05 PM (GBKbO)
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By any measure, USAID is an abomination whose clear purpose is to obfuscate, lie, and spend this country into ruin, all to the benefit of slime weasels who should be released around backwoods roads on dark nights with fleets of monster trucks for them to dodge as they attempt to cross them.
By any measure, USAID is an abomination whose clear purpose is to obfuscate, lie, and spend this country into ruin, all to the benefit of slime weasels who should be released around backwoods roads on dark nights with fleets of monster trucks for them to dodge as they attempt to cross them.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 07, 2025 12:05 PM (xG4kz)
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Sometimes a crossbow.
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 07, 2025 12:05 PM (KWujZ)
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Pay them for doing nothing, it is literally less harmful to the national economy and international policy to allow them to free-ride and you do not want them contaminating the real economy.
Posted by: sven at February 07, 2025 12:06 PM (X0I7i)
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Ah, remember when they stole an election and laughed at us for noticing? Ahhhhhhh....
Posted by: ... at February 07, 2025 12:06 PM (Ja2Pp)
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Quit playing this judges have ruling over everything. Does President have ruling over something the Executive branch has created or not?
Posted by: Skip at February 07, 2025 12:06 PM (fwDg9)
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20 Sometimes the only solution is to use a sword.
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And sometimes a nuke.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at February 07, 2025 12:05 PM (Vs9uA)
Its the only way to be sure...
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And sometimes a nuke.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at February 07, 2025 12:05 PM (Vs9uA)
Its the only way to be sure...
Posted by: Corporal Hicks at February 07, 2025 12:06 PM (53oGX)
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>>disrupts global humanitarian aid.
But mostly their paychecks and retirement for their phony baloney jobs. I don't care. In fact, if my knee didn't hurt, I'd be dancing right now.
But mostly their paychecks and retirement for their phony baloney jobs. I don't care. In fact, if my knee didn't hurt, I'd be dancing right now.
Posted by: huerfano at February 07, 2025 12:06 PM (n2swS)
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Suit should be dismissed in five minutes.
Posted by: steevy at February 07, 2025 12:07 PM (KQk9m)
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In their lawsuit, the unions claim the shutdown has created a "global humanitarian crisis" and are seeking an injunction to stop further actions. They are pushing for the reopening of USAID offices, the resumption of grants and contracts, and a reversal of furlough notices.
So? What's that got to do with us?
They want help, let them pay tribute.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at February 07, 2025 12:03 PM (0eaVi)
I'm desperately trying to find the law that says this is our fucking problem...
and i'm not having any luck. the court better tell them "no standing" and move on...
So? What's that got to do with us?
They want help, let them pay tribute.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at February 07, 2025 12:03 PM (0eaVi)
I'm desperately trying to find the law that says this is our fucking problem...
and i'm not having any luck. the court better tell them "no standing" and move on...
Posted by: Sturmtoddler at February 07, 2025 12:07 PM (nXhwP)
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So if the Executive Branch has a blank check to hire new federal workers, how can it not have the ability to fire federal workers?
Is the Supreme Court really going to come down with some ruling that a federal worker basically has to be on the payroll until they die?
Is the Supreme Court really going to come down with some ruling that a federal worker basically has to be on the payroll until they die?
Posted by: Utility at February 07, 2025 12:07 PM (+auxK)
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To gut or to disembowel? That is the question.
Posted by: zombie at February 07, 2025 12:07 PM (pMi6S)
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Unions representing federal employees are taking legal action against the Trump administration's efforts to shut down USAID, claiming the move threatens thousands of jobs and disrupts global humanitarian aid.
Please point to the place in the Constitution that says the government is required to provide thousands of jobs and global humanitarian aid.
Please point to the place in the Constitution that says the government is required to provide thousands of jobs and global humanitarian aid.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 07, 2025 12:07 PM (xCA6C)
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Some wacko congress woman tried to get into the DOE and was apparently blocked from entry. Asked the guards if they were going to shoot her.
Well, remember what Lindsey Graham told the capitol police four years ago....
Sorry, goes to X: https://tinyurl.com/588z692z
Well, remember what Lindsey Graham told the capitol police four years ago....
Sorry, goes to X: https://tinyurl.com/588z692z
Posted by: OrangeEnt at February 07, 2025 12:07 PM (0eaVi)
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>>>unions claim the shutdown has created a "global humanitarian crisis"
In what world does a union have standing to sue on behalf of the people who are affected by an alleged "global humanitarian crisis"?
In what world does a union have standing to sue on behalf of the people who are affected by an alleged "global humanitarian crisis"?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 07, 2025 12:07 PM (uCjyK)
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Yes, I'm sure a fraction of that money is eventually paid out to people in the developing world -- after it's laundered through a dozen leftwing NGOs and all the parasites of the left have taken their share.
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Why should USAID prioritize companies in the DC area over local companies in places that are receiving the aid?
Why does USAID need to pay an NGO based in DC to build infrastructure in Haiti?
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Why should USAID prioritize companies in the DC area over local companies in places that are receiving the aid?
Why does USAID need to pay an NGO based in DC to build infrastructure in Haiti?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:07 PM (GBKbO)
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But chopping down government spending, which pays people out in freshly-printed Fantasy Dollars, will be a big help.
I've been saying it for a while but the only way to reduce Bidenflation is to reduce Bidenspending
USAID looks like a great place to start.
I've been saying it for a while but the only way to reduce Bidenflation is to reduce Bidenspending
USAID looks like a great place to start.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 07, 2025 12:07 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: steevy at February 07, 2025 12:07 PM (KQk9m)
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Cut like a hammer, baby.
Posted by: BignJames at February 07, 2025 12:07 PM (Yj6Os)
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33 So if the Executive Branch has a blank check to hire new federal workers, how can it not have the ability to fire federal workers?
Is the Supreme Court really going to come down with some ruling that a federal worker basically has to be on the payroll until they die?
Posted by: Utility at February 07, 2025 12:07 PM (+auxK)
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It would go against almost all civil service case law.
But it's possible.
Calvinball.
Is the Supreme Court really going to come down with some ruling that a federal worker basically has to be on the payroll until they die?
Posted by: Utility at February 07, 2025 12:07 PM (+auxK)
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It would go against almost all civil service case law.
But it's possible.
Calvinball.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:07 PM (GBKbO)
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Is the Supreme Court really going to come down with some ruling that a federal worker basically has to be on the payroll until they die?
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The rehabilitation of ACB is going to be amazing.
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The rehabilitation of ACB is going to be amazing.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at February 07, 2025 12:07 PM (Vs9uA)
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The path out of Inflation is two-fold: 1.) Restore the Balance of Trade. Right now, we have massive outflows of capital due to the ongoing trade deficit we have with the entire world. The resumption of drilling and refining, and the sales of this product overseas will correct much of this capital outflow, and put foreign capital back into America. 2.) Cut Government Spending: Pissing away $2 trillion we don't have, and simply creating it out of thin air makes all the other existing dollars that much more worthless. M2 is a killer, and the sooner we stop this bleeding the better. Elon Musk is the Flaming Sword of Trump right now, and I hope he can hack away enough to keep the ship afloat.
Posted by: Brewingfrog at February 07, 2025 12:08 PM (KQqCj)
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And so the battle is joined
Posted by: That guy who always thinks the battle is being joined at February 07, 2025 12:08 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Bulg at February 07, 2025 12:08 PM (77rzZ)
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"I've been worried about inflation -- how is Trump going to cut it? We don't want the fed keeping interest rates high forever. That throttles the economy."
I lived through the '81 - '82 recession (the so-called "Reagan Recession"), and it *sucked.*
It was also necessary. It may be again, given the degree to which the true magnitude of Bidenflation has been hidden and suppressed.
I lived through the '81 - '82 recession (the so-called "Reagan Recession"), and it *sucked.*
It was also necessary. It may be again, given the degree to which the true magnitude of Bidenflation has been hidden and suppressed.
Posted by: Rowsdower & Batman have had it up to HERE with these damn juggalos & still think Ray Epps is a fed a at February 07, 2025 12:08 PM (hP0k7)
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I'll try that if I get fired some time " but firing me will cause a global humanitarian crisis!"
Posted by: steevy at February 07, 2025 12:08 PM (KQk9m)
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Looking down the road to the new FY the chances the corrupt government will see another Continuing Resolution diminish daily.
DOGE will still be around with the receipts so this next budget scrum is a whole new ball game.
And that's without calculating the legal impact (can you say kickbacks and bribes) on the makeup of Congress and the courts.
DOGE will still be around with the receipts so this next budget scrum is a whole new ball game.
And that's without calculating the legal impact (can you say kickbacks and bribes) on the makeup of Congress and the courts.
Posted by: Minuteman at February 07, 2025 12:09 PM (4YOYC)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 07, 2025 12:09 PM (Q4IgG)
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The beef herd keeps shrinking.
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 07, 2025 12:09 PM (KWujZ)
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Is the Supreme Court really going to come down with some ruling that a federal worker basically has to be on the payroll until they die?
Posted by: Utility at February 07, 2025 12:07 PM (+auxK)
I imagine Whig can get in to the specifics better than I can, but there is a line of caselaw about how a person does have a property interest in a government job.
And the government can't take away your property without due process.
Part of the reason it's so fucking hard to fire government employees.
So in other words, SCOTUS does not have to invent new law here. They're wayyy ahead of us on this issue.
Posted by: Utility at February 07, 2025 12:07 PM (+auxK)
I imagine Whig can get in to the specifics better than I can, but there is a line of caselaw about how a person does have a property interest in a government job.
And the government can't take away your property without due process.
Part of the reason it's so fucking hard to fire government employees.
So in other words, SCOTUS does not have to invent new law here. They're wayyy ahead of us on this issue.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 07, 2025 12:09 PM (uCjyK)
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Is the Supreme Court really going to come down with some ruling that a federal worker basically has to be on the payroll until they die?
Posted by: Utility at February 07, 2025 12:07 PM (+auxK)
Yes. After that, they go on the voter roll.
Is the Supreme Court really going to come down with some ruling that a federal worker basically has to be on the payroll until they die?
Posted by: Utility at February 07, 2025 12:07 PM (+auxK)
Yes. After that, they go on the voter roll.
Posted by: ... at February 07, 2025 12:09 PM (Ja2Pp)
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"just put 168 staffers on administrative leave"
We've 'fired' a lot of people. I hope we can stop paying them someday.
We've 'fired' a lot of people. I hope we can stop paying them someday.
Posted by: The Smell Of The gp, The Roar Of The Crowd at February 07, 2025 12:10 PM (u01/w)
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I'm desperately trying to find the law that says this is our fucking problem...
and i'm not having any luck. the court better tell them "no standing" and move on...
Posted by: Sturmtoddler at February 07, 2025 12:07 PM (nXhwP)
They judge shopped I'm sure. They'll probably get an injunction.
and i'm not having any luck. the court better tell them "no standing" and move on...
Posted by: Sturmtoddler at February 07, 2025 12:07 PM (nXhwP)
They judge shopped I'm sure. They'll probably get an injunction.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at February 07, 2025 12:10 PM (0eaVi)
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Looks like Elon's going to re-hire the kid who was out after he saw that the WSJ reporterette who doxxed him worked for USAID.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 07, 2025 12:10 PM (2ocoG)
Posted by: ... at February 07, 2025 12:10 PM (Ja2Pp)
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All the USAID things coming to life has to move the needle on swing votes in front of the Court.
If they really say "nope, can touch these people" it's basically the end of the Republic. Personnel is policy as we've seen.
If they really say "nope, can touch these people" it's basically the end of the Republic. Personnel is policy as we've seen.
Posted by: Utility at February 07, 2025 12:10 PM (+auxK)
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Looks like Elon's going to re-hire the kid who was out after he saw that the WSJ reporterette who doxxed him worked for USAID.
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Good man!
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Good man!
Posted by: ... at February 07, 2025 12:10 PM (Ja2Pp)
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57 I imagine Whig can get in to the specifics better than I can
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Everybody Loves Whig
Posted by: ... at February 07, 2025 12:10 PM (Ja2Pp)
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Only when made of lace!
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Everybody Loves Whig
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Only when made of lace!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:11 PM (GBKbO)
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Democrats having a hard time proving that USAID actually provided anything that saved lives as more and more of the absurd things they funded come out. Where is the list of contracts for food and medical care? Instead we see contracts for trans surgeries, cement plants in Gaza, EVs in Vietnam. They can't prove that anything they funded actually did any of the things they funded.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 07, 2025 12:11 PM (t/2Uw)
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No one voted for Big Balls.
David Hogg posted that he's against big balls. Probably because he can't find his own.
David Hogg posted that he's against big balls. Probably because he can't find his own.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 07, 2025 12:11 PM (2ocoG)
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Why does USAID need to pay an NGO based in DC to build infrastructure in Haiti?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:07 PM (GBKbO)
You don't think we want to actually spend time there, do you?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:07 PM (GBKbO)
You don't think we want to actually spend time there, do you?
Posted by: Clinton Global at February 07, 2025 12:12 PM (0eaVi)
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at February 07, 2025 12:12 PM (Vs9uA)
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Yes, I'm sure a fraction of that money is eventually paid out to people in the developing world -- after it's laundered through a dozen leftwing NGOs and all the parasites of the left have taken their share.
It occurred to me last night that USAID and other similar agencies are like a big Pachinko machine, except the balls are money. You start at the top (USAID), release the funds, and they bounce around between various NGOs and other cutouts (the pins) as they drop. They finally land at the bottom; where the intended recipient now claims they never received any funds from USAID.
It occurred to me last night that USAID and other similar agencies are like a big Pachinko machine, except the balls are money. You start at the top (USAID), release the funds, and they bounce around between various NGOs and other cutouts (the pins) as they drop. They finally land at the bottom; where the intended recipient now claims they never received any funds from USAID.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 07, 2025 12:12 PM (xCA6C)
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Among the funnier aspects is that the money Soros donated to leftwing pols came back to him circuitously through USAID, in part. Men like him always get a big return on their investments.
The bottom line is this was a slush funds for Karens. They will squawk a lot but everyone hates The AWFL.
The bottom line is this was a slush funds for Karens. They will squawk a lot but everyone hates The AWFL.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 07, 2025 12:12 PM (CaELB)
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I have examined the patient and I agree with the assessment and plan of Dr. Nathaniel Blecher.
May I offer my services?
May I offer my services?
Posted by: Lorena Bobbitt at February 07, 2025 12:12 PM (MDua2)
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But chopping down government spending, which pays people out in freshly-printed Fantasy Dollars, will be a big help.
While the savings will be real, I honestly don't think it will put a huge dent in the deficit. I think the more important effect of this and the other RIFs will be a reduction in the scope, power and rife corruption in the federal government. At this point in time I think the latter is more important; among other things it's necessary to eventually attain the former, or in fact to achieve any lasting change.
While the savings will be real, I honestly don't think it will put a huge dent in the deficit. I think the more important effect of this and the other RIFs will be a reduction in the scope, power and rife corruption in the federal government. At this point in time I think the latter is more important; among other things it's necessary to eventually attain the former, or in fact to achieve any lasting change.
Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I AM The Science at February 07, 2025 12:12 PM (lg881)
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Interest rates aren't high. They're normal.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 07, 2025 12:04 PM (63Dwl)
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I think interest rates should never go below 5%. Lower rates than that essentially allow businesses to get sloppy.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 07, 2025 12:04 PM (63Dwl)
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I think interest rates should never go below 5%. Lower rates than that essentially allow businesses to get sloppy.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 07, 2025 12:12 PM (Vh9CX)
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I imagine Whig can get in to the specifics better than I can, but there is a line of caselaw about how a person does have a property interest in a government job.
And the government can't take away your property without due process.
Part of the reason it's so fucking hard to fire government employees.
So in other words, SCOTUS does not have to invent new law here. They're wayyy ahead of us on this issue.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
That seems absurd to me.
Like saying the company I work at, I'm therefore an owner and you can't fire me because I own it.
I imagine Whig can get in to the specifics better than I can, but there is a line of caselaw about how a person does have a property interest in a government job.
And the government can't take away your property without due process.
Part of the reason it's so fucking hard to fire government employees.
So in other words, SCOTUS does not have to invent new law here. They're wayyy ahead of us on this issue.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
That seems absurd to me.
Like saying the company I work at, I'm therefore an owner and you can't fire me because I own it.
Posted by: Utility at February 07, 2025 12:12 PM (+auxK)
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My only problem is a dread of the Supreme Robes making any ruling knowing everything is political to them, rule of law got tossed out the window decades ago
Posted by: Skip at February 07, 2025 12:12 PM (fwDg9)
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You read about things like the Sack of Rome or rthe Defenestration of Prague, but it is a sheer delight to see the modern equivalent in real-timel
Posted by: zombie at February 07, 2025 12:12 PM (pMi6S)
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> Looks like Elon's going to re-hire the kid who was out after he saw that the WSJ reporterette who doxxed him worked for USAID.
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Cancel culture... has been canceled.
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Cancel culture... has been canceled.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 07, 2025 12:12 PM (Q4IgG)
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Have the carrier pigeons in Madagascar filed suit yet?
Posted by: Bulg at February 07, 2025 12:12 PM (77rzZ)
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No one voted for Big Balls.
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I think we may have gotten them anyway. 🥴
Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 07, 2025 12:09 PM (Q4IgG)
we've got the biggest balls of them all
-- AC/DC
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I think we may have gotten them anyway. 🥴
Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 07, 2025 12:09 PM (Q4IgG)
we've got the biggest balls of them all
-- AC/DC
Posted by: Sturmtoddler at February 07, 2025 12:13 PM (nXhwP)
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"Critics of USAID's shutdown argue the move jeopardizes national security and weakens U.S. influence abroad."
USAID was not on my radar as a major Deep State power center. Can't wait to see what else DOGE comes up with.
USAID was not on my radar as a major Deep State power center. Can't wait to see what else DOGE comes up with.
Posted by: Ripley at February 07, 2025 12:13 PM (GUOwU)
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I remember back when I was a libertarian after being a Libertarian and thinking stuff like this would never ever happen.
And it's happening.
And the GOP is mostly going along with it, the quisling traitors are mostly sidelined like that piece of shit Paul Ryan and that asshole John Boner.
It's taken a long time, but a libertarian presidency is here. Ayn Rand would love to see this.
I remember back when I was a libertarian after being a Libertarian and thinking stuff like this would never ever happen.
And it's happening.
And the GOP is mostly going along with it, the quisling traitors are mostly sidelined like that piece of shit Paul Ryan and that asshole John Boner.
It's taken a long time, but a libertarian presidency is here. Ayn Rand would love to see this.
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at February 07, 2025 12:13 PM (et1vG)
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Isn't the part of the Constitution that says government jobs can't be eliminated in the Good & Plenty Clause?
Posted by: Minuteman at February 07, 2025 12:13 PM (4YOYC)
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Bets on Congress reauthorizing USAID in the next must pass omnibus that gets introduced 12 hours before the deadline?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:04 PM (GBKbO)
It will be necessary for Trump to get on board with staring down Congress. If Mike Johnson wants to keep playing that game, he needs to be prepared to throw Mike under the bus.
My hope is that enough political pressure is on for them to realize the game is up.
We shall see.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:04 PM (GBKbO)
It will be necessary for Trump to get on board with staring down Congress. If Mike Johnson wants to keep playing that game, he needs to be prepared to throw Mike under the bus.
My hope is that enough political pressure is on for them to realize the game is up.
We shall see.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 07, 2025 12:13 PM (SfHnh)
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David Hogg posted that he's against big balls. Probably because he can't find his own.
He positively hates being forced to gargle them.
David Hogg posted that he's against big balls. Probably because he can't find his own.
He positively hates being forced to gargle them.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 07, 2025 12:14 PM (xG4kz)
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In what world does a union have standing to sue on behalf of the people who are affected by an alleged "global humanitarian crisis"?
Chinatown.
Chinatown.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle for festive little hats at February 07, 2025 12:14 PM (sFONh)
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You start at the top (USAID), release the funds, and they bounce around between various NGOs and other cutouts (the pins) as they drop. They finally land at the bottom; where the intended recipient now claims they never received any funds from USAID.
Yeah, except the path is always preordained, which makes the deniability more difficult when someone gets visibility on the whole path. And the entire world has that now.
Yeah, except the path is always preordained, which makes the deniability more difficult when someone gets visibility on the whole path. And the entire world has that now.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 07, 2025 12:14 PM (2ocoG)
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58 All the USAID things coming to life has to move the needle on swing votes in front of the Court.
If they really say "nope, can touch these people" it's basically the end of the Republic. Personnel is policy as we've seen.
Posted by: Utility at February 07, 2025 12:10 PM (+auxK)
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If Trump gets no help from Congress, his efforts through EO should have longer effects than previous back and forths on EOs from one party to the next.
Loper opens up the legal process to challenge new regulation, to be adjugated in the courts with the courts as final decider, which will slow the process down. If Trump uproots all the regulation in the Department of Education and Congress fails to repeal it, the next Democrat president would need to write out all of that regulation again with challenges very probable along every step from outside the executive branch.
It could all come back over time, but it wouldn't be an immediate turn around.
TLDR: Congress needs to act for long term effects, but the structure of fighting regulation has changed so that the change back will be slower.
If they really say "nope, can touch these people" it's basically the end of the Republic. Personnel is policy as we've seen.
Posted by: Utility at February 07, 2025 12:10 PM (+auxK)
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If Trump gets no help from Congress, his efforts through EO should have longer effects than previous back and forths on EOs from one party to the next.
Loper opens up the legal process to challenge new regulation, to be adjugated in the courts with the courts as final decider, which will slow the process down. If Trump uproots all the regulation in the Department of Education and Congress fails to repeal it, the next Democrat president would need to write out all of that regulation again with challenges very probable along every step from outside the executive branch.
It could all come back over time, but it wouldn't be an immediate turn around.
TLDR: Congress needs to act for long term effects, but the structure of fighting regulation has changed so that the change back will be slower.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:14 PM (GBKbO)
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My only problem is a dread of the Supreme Robes making any ruling knowing everything is political to them, rule of law got tossed out the window decades ago
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Trump moving quickly on this will move public opinion. The stronger Trump gets, it will be harder for Roberts to rule against him. He reads the political winds. Congress may also render all this moot. Will it work? I don't know, but let's find out.
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Trump moving quickly on this will move public opinion. The stronger Trump gets, it will be harder for Roberts to rule against him. He reads the political winds. Congress may also render all this moot. Will it work? I don't know, but let's find out.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at February 07, 2025 12:14 PM (Vs9uA)
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Here's the real issue: Trump is having to do this by EO and executive authority alone. We have both houses of Congress. Gutting USAID is a no-brainer. If congressional Republicans can't even agree to eliminate even this bullshit, really what good are they?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at February 07, 2025 12:14 PM (44PAK)
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"We don't want the fed keeping interest rates high forever. That throttles the economy."
Interest rates are actually near their historical norms. You've just gotten used to the artificially low interest rates resulting from the 2008 financial crisis. Artificially low interest rates punish savers and distort investment decisions.
Interest rates are actually near their historical norms. You've just gotten used to the artificially low interest rates resulting from the 2008 financial crisis. Artificially low interest rates punish savers and distort investment decisions.
Posted by: Christopher Wray at February 07, 2025 12:14 PM (5IFb9)
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Trump's USAID gambit backfires as American farms now threatened: American farms are responsible for roughly 41 percent of all food aid provided by the agency and it adds that the U.S. government bought $2.1 billion in food aid from American farmers in the year 2020 alone.
Trump's aid freeze has "... left hundreds of tons of American-grown wheat stranded in Houston alone."
"Ha ha. Farmers are suckers. Ha ha." - Felon 47 (R) and Presidont Muck (R). republicons love to sucker people, then laugh at them. They think they are cute.
Leopards getting fat off all the faces they're eating. I don't think most Americans realize how much pleasure he gets from hurting people.
They all vote republican anyways. At least 85% of 'em. Hope it hurts 'em a lot 'til those idiots come to their senses. Losers.
These farmers have an imaginary understanding of their real situation. They think they are self-sufficient, self-reliant individualists. Scrappy entrepreneurs on the market. In fact, they vastly overproduce a perishable good. Every year, the government, funded largely by Joe and Jane Urban Dweller, steps in to soak up their ridiculous surplus...
Trump's aid freeze has "... left hundreds of tons of American-grown wheat stranded in Houston alone."
"Ha ha. Farmers are suckers. Ha ha." - Felon 47 (R) and Presidont Muck (R). republicons love to sucker people, then laugh at them. They think they are cute.
Leopards getting fat off all the faces they're eating. I don't think most Americans realize how much pleasure he gets from hurting people.
They all vote republican anyways. At least 85% of 'em. Hope it hurts 'em a lot 'til those idiots come to their senses. Losers.
These farmers have an imaginary understanding of their real situation. They think they are self-sufficient, self-reliant individualists. Scrappy entrepreneurs on the market. In fact, they vastly overproduce a perishable good. Every year, the government, funded largely by Joe and Jane Urban Dweller, steps in to soak up their ridiculous surplus...
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at February 07, 2025 12:14 PM (JCZqz)
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Finally saw that video of Kanye with the naked girl. I don’t see how that’s not unlawful nudity. But what struck me most about the video is not the depraved narcissism and lack of even a micron of taste. I expected that.
What struck me is how fucking high the girl was. She’s totally tripping balls. She’s just staring off into space like she’s half in a coma. If someone told me this was the latest model robotic fuck doll, I would have believed it. She looks and acts like it.
What struck me is how fucking high the girl was. She’s totally tripping balls. She’s just staring off into space like she’s half in a coma. If someone told me this was the latest model robotic fuck doll, I would have believed it. She looks and acts like it.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at February 07, 2025 12:14 PM (iFTx/)
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This lawsuit will be very interesting because what I don’t hear is a contract violation or a claim of busting a union by attrition, it that may be in there somewhere. If their contracts spell out severance agreements, there really is no need to bargain over that portion. Now, I hope and assume appropriate notice has been given, in which the desired outcome would be a request by the union to engage in effects bargaining- which implies the union accepts the outcome, they just want to talk about how to get there.
I do not have much in the way of experience with government unions, but I do know their language is far more favorable to the employees than it should be and would be in a normal CBA. The labor nerd in me wants to read all of this in detail.
I do not have much in the way of experience with government unions, but I do know their language is far more favorable to the employees than it should be and would be in a normal CBA. The labor nerd in me wants to read all of this in detail.
Posted by: Piper at February 07, 2025 12:14 PM (pZEOD)
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You read about things like the Sack of Rome or the Defenestration of Prague
I've always wondered how they got a sack big enough to put Rome into, and a window big enough to push Prague out of.
I've always wondered how they got a sack big enough to put Rome into, and a window big enough to push Prague out of.
Posted by: Bulg at February 07, 2025 12:15 PM (77rzZ)
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32 In their lawsuit, the unions claim the shutdown has created a "global humanitarian crisis" and are seeking an injunction to stop further actions. They are pushing for the reopening of USAID offices, the resumption of grants and contracts, and a reversal of furlough notices.
So? What's that got to do with us?
They want help, let them pay tribute.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at February 07, 2025 12:03 PM (0eaVi)
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Musk made a great point on this. The supposed recipients of the aid aren’t complaining about it.
If they aren’t complaining, why are the bureaucrats.
So? What's that got to do with us?
They want help, let them pay tribute.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at February 07, 2025 12:03 PM (0eaVi)
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Musk made a great point on this. The supposed recipients of the aid aren’t complaining about it.
If they aren’t complaining, why are the bureaucrats.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 07, 2025 12:15 PM (Vh9CX)
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Isn't the part of the Constitution that says government jobs can't be eliminated in the Good & Plenty Clause?
Posted by: Minuteman
I thought that it was the Three-fifths of a Man Clause
Isn't the part of the Constitution that says government jobs can't be eliminated in the Good & Plenty Clause?
Posted by: Minuteman
I thought that it was the Three-fifths of a Man Clause
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 07, 2025 12:15 PM (xG4kz)
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It occurred to me last night that USAID and other similar agencies are like a big Pachinko machine, except the balls are money. You start at the top (USAID), release the funds, and they bounce around between various NGOs and other cutouts (the pins) as they drop. They finally land at the bottom; where the intended recipient now claims they never received any funds from USAID.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 07, 2025 12:12 PM (xCA6C)
Yeah, exactly.
We will never truly know what happened to all that money, or if the transgender play in Ireland ever got made.
And this is but one agency of many involved in this. And it has been going on since before most of us were born.
And the frustrating thing is -- I don't think it will actually go away.
If people start going to prison, maybe I'll be less pessimistic.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 07, 2025 12:12 PM (xCA6C)
Yeah, exactly.
We will never truly know what happened to all that money, or if the transgender play in Ireland ever got made.
And this is but one agency of many involved in this. And it has been going on since before most of us were born.
And the frustrating thing is -- I don't think it will actually go away.
If people start going to prison, maybe I'll be less pessimistic.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 07, 2025 12:15 PM (uCjyK)
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Elon Musk pointed out that 90% of USAID's payments go to recipients in the, get this, Washington DC area.
And this is just a small fraction of the feralgov firehose.
And this is just a small fraction of the feralgov firehose.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 07, 2025 12:16 PM (Vqx30)
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79 It will be necessary for Trump to get on board with staring down Congress. If Mike Johnson wants to keep playing that game, he needs to be prepared to throw Mike under the bus.
My hope is that enough political pressure is on for them to realize the game is up.
We shall see.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 07, 2025 12:13 PM (SfHnh)
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Already some legislation introduced to undo USAID completely. We'll see. Momentum is on the side of the aggressors.
But, yeah. The budget fight, which is brewing in the background, is going to be key. "We need to fund USAID to get 5 Democrats because I can't control my own caucus," is going to be said at some point.
My hope is that enough political pressure is on for them to realize the game is up.
We shall see.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 07, 2025 12:13 PM (SfHnh)
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Already some legislation introduced to undo USAID completely. We'll see. Momentum is on the side of the aggressors.
But, yeah. The budget fight, which is brewing in the background, is going to be key. "We need to fund USAID to get 5 Democrats because I can't control my own caucus," is going to be said at some point.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:16 PM (GBKbO)
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David Hogg posted that he's against big balls. Probably because he can't find his own.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 07, 2025 12:11 PM (2ocoG)
Oh, I'm sure balls are against his chin quite often.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 07, 2025 12:11 PM (2ocoG)
Oh, I'm sure balls are against his chin quite often.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at February 07, 2025 12:16 PM (0eaVi)
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"But chopping down government spending, which pays people out in freshly-printed Fantasy Dollars, will be a big help."
USAID was $40B I think. The BIG payoffs come when the entitlements and Pentagon are DOGEd.
USAID was $40B I think. The BIG payoffs come when the entitlements and Pentagon are DOGEd.
Posted by: The Smell Of The gp, The Roar Of The Crowd at February 07, 2025 12:16 PM (u01/w)
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Have we stopped all foreign aid to sanctuary cities? Because that's what it is.
Posted by: t-bird at February 07, 2025 12:16 PM (KfN19)
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"Why does USAID need to pay an NGO based in DC to build infrastructure in Haiti?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison"
No good places in Haiti for the humanitarian awards ceremonies.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison"
No good places in Haiti for the humanitarian awards ceremonies.
Posted by: Ripley at February 07, 2025 12:16 PM (GUOwU)
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I imagine Whig can get in to the specifics better than I can, but there is a line of caselaw about how a person does have a property interest in a government job.
And the government can't take away your property without due process.
Part of the reason it's so fucking hard to fire government employees.
So in other words, SCOTUS does not have to invent new law here. They're wayyy ahead of us on this issue.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
It is why they offered the resignation like this...it's the most likely way to succeed and succeed quickly...
I imagine Whig can get in to the specifics better than I can, but there is a line of caselaw about how a person does have a property interest in a government job.
And the government can't take away your property without due process.
Part of the reason it's so fucking hard to fire government employees.
So in other words, SCOTUS does not have to invent new law here. They're wayyy ahead of us on this issue.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
It is why they offered the resignation like this...it's the most likely way to succeed and succeed quickly...
Posted by: Nova Local at February 07, 2025 12:16 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: Elric The Blade at February 07, 2025 12:16 PM (iFTx/)
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Afternoon Ace.
Even if the Dems go on attack with every BS lawsuit, Trump and DOGE have to keep going. The minute they let up the the will be stopped. Keep coming up with different ways to attack the corruption, keep the Dems off balance
Even if the Dems go on attack with every BS lawsuit, Trump and DOGE have to keep going. The minute they let up the the will be stopped. Keep coming up with different ways to attack the corruption, keep the Dems off balance
Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 07, 2025 12:16 PM (EUtBO)
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If Trump really wanted to kick over a hornets nest he would rescind the EO allowing Government worker unionization.
DO IT. DO IT. DO IT.
DO IT. DO IT. DO IT.
Posted by: Minuteman at February 07, 2025 12:16 PM (4YOYC)
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87 These farmers have an imaginary understanding of their real situation. They think they are self-sufficient, self-reliant individualists. Scrappy entrepreneurs on the market. In fact, they vastly overproduce a perishable good. Every year, the government, funded largely by Joe and Jane Urban Dweller, steps in to soak up their ridiculous surplus...
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at February 07, 2025 12:14 PM (JCZqz)
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Major corporations who run most of America's farms think like this?
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at February 07, 2025 12:14 PM (JCZqz)
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Major corporations who run most of America's farms think like this?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:17 PM (GBKbO)
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I highly recommend the article at this link:
https://is.gd/kWUC1L
Its main thesis is that the people Trump is firing don't want to go to court, because they know that he's likely to win, and if he does, he'll increase his ability to fire people even more. IOW, Trump has set a classic briar patch trap for them.
https://is.gd/kWUC1L
Its main thesis is that the people Trump is firing don't want to go to court, because they know that he's likely to win, and if he does, he'll increase his ability to fire people even more. IOW, Trump has set a classic briar patch trap for them.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 07, 2025 12:17 PM (xCA6C)
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DOGE has closed access to the Dept of Education. Maxine Waters and company tried to get in and the Dude standing in front of the door said nope.
Posted by: WisRich at February 07, 2025 12:17 PM (G0vdT)
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It's the judges that will worry me. How can anything substantial and necessary get done when there are so many activist judges whose job is to swat Trump's plans down? We're already getting a tiny taste. And this is just the beginning.
Posted by: Lady in Black at February 07, 2025 12:17 PM (qBdHI)
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That is a good tweet at the bottom.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 07, 2025 12:17 PM (bss/y)
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If there were a true humanitarian crisis - somewhere - wouldn't the first indication be reports FROM somewhere, itself ? Not from a lawsuit filed by gov't employee unions claiming such a thing ?
Throw this lawsuit out immediately
Throw this lawsuit out immediately
Posted by: deadrody at February 07, 2025 12:18 PM (qf6NU)
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But, yeah. The budget fight, which is brewing in the background, is going to be key. "We need to fund USAID to get 5 Democrats because I can't control my own caucus," is going to be said at some point.
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Will Dem Congressmen be as willing to fall on sword and risk reelection knowing that typical pot of gold for such service may no longer exists?
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Will Dem Congressmen be as willing to fall on sword and risk reelection knowing that typical pot of gold for such service may no longer exists?
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at February 07, 2025 12:18 PM (Vs9uA)
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>> The path out of Inflation is two-fold: 1.) Restore the Balance of Trade. Right now, we have massive outflows of capital due to the ongoing trade deficit we have with the entire world. The resumption of drilling and refining, and the sales of this product overseas will correct much of this capital outflow, and put foreign capital back into America.
That’s backwards, though. The outflow of capital is intentional, it’s the entire point of our monetary system. And it’s keeping inflation down. Most dollars are held overseas, because our economy has been consumerist for decades.
If capital flows reverse, trillions will flood back into the US and inflation will explode.
That’s backwards, though. The outflow of capital is intentional, it’s the entire point of our monetary system. And it’s keeping inflation down. Most dollars are held overseas, because our economy has been consumerist for decades.
If capital flows reverse, trillions will flood back into the US and inflation will explode.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 07, 2025 12:18 PM (l3YAf)
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Rubio is coming into his own! I never expected this from him.
Posted by: LASue at February 07, 2025 12:18 PM (lCppi)
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86 Posted by: Christopher Wray at February 07, 2025 12:14 PM (5IFb9)
I work with a USAID alum, had a dream or nightmare where I was explaining to her that 1/25th is 4%....as it pertained to interest rates the law of 72 and the culture of savings....
she claimed in my dream that savings were an oppressive tool of the patriarchy.
I work with a USAID alum, had a dream or nightmare where I was explaining to her that 1/25th is 4%....as it pertained to interest rates the law of 72 and the culture of savings....
she claimed in my dream that savings were an oppressive tool of the patriarchy.
Posted by: sven at February 07, 2025 12:18 PM (X0I7i)
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While the savings will be real, I honestly don't think it will put a huge dent in the deficit. I think the more important effect of this and the other RIFs will be a reduction in the scope, power and rife corruption in the federal government. At this point in time I think the latter is more important; among other things it's necessary to eventually attain the former, or in fact to achieve any lasting change.
Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I AM The Science at February 07, 2025 12:12 PM (lg881)
It's like anything else, where you think you have an invincible opponent. Your first strike does not have to take him down. It merely needs to show that he's not invincible, and he CAN be taken down with continued effort.
Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I AM The Science at February 07, 2025 12:12 PM (lg881)
It's like anything else, where you think you have an invincible opponent. Your first strike does not have to take him down. It merely needs to show that he's not invincible, and he CAN be taken down with continued effort.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 07, 2025 12:18 PM (SfHnh)
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"Why does USAID need to pay an NGO based in DC to build infrastructure in Haiti?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison"
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Bill and Hillary have entered the room.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison"
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Bill and Hillary have entered the room.
Posted by: WisRich at February 07, 2025 12:19 PM (G0vdT)
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American farms are responsible for roughly 41 percent of all food aid provided by the agency and it adds that the U.S. government bought $2.1 billion in food aid from American farmers in the year 2020 alone.
Trump's aid freeze has "... left hundreds of tons of American-grown wheat stranded in Houston alone."
We're supposed to believe if daddy government doesn't buy wheat, nobody will?
Trump's aid freeze has "... left hundreds of tons of American-grown wheat stranded in Houston alone."
We're supposed to believe if daddy government doesn't buy wheat, nobody will?
Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2025 12:19 PM (Odg76)
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So, if USAID was literally buying $2.1B of American farm products (and I don't think they were, but let's pretend) - why?
Is this not the job or US Dept of Agriculture and Health and Human Services if the government wants to buy farm surplus - one buys to feed the poor of the other (bring back the poor food boxes). Why would the State Department ever get involved in buying US farm products? That's not their job...
Is this not the job or US Dept of Agriculture and Health and Human Services if the government wants to buy farm surplus - one buys to feed the poor of the other (bring back the poor food boxes). Why would the State Department ever get involved in buying US farm products? That's not their job...
Posted by: Nova Local at February 07, 2025 12:19 PM (exHjb)
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In their lawsuit, the unions claim the shutdown has created a "global humanitarian crisis" and are seeking an injunction to stop further actions. They are pushing for the reopening of USAID offices, the resumption of grants and contracts, and a reversal of furlough notices.
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No standing.
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No standing.
Posted by: LASue at February 07, 2025 12:19 PM (lCppi)
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USAID headcount was reduced by 97%. I interpret this to mean that all the people that got shit canned were nothing more than useless eunuch mandarins whose sole official function was to examine the emperor's turds which interrupted their real purpose which was to loot the warehouses non-stop.
If this type of reduction is scaled out to the entire federal government, we hit a lower limit of about 90,000 federal employees left over. That would probably not work out so well but I'm betting reducing the federal government by 80% is about perfect.
If this type of reduction is scaled out to the entire federal government, we hit a lower limit of about 90,000 federal employees left over. That would probably not work out so well but I'm betting reducing the federal government by 80% is about perfect.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at February 07, 2025 12:19 PM (Q8Bj8)
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These farmers have an imaginary understanding of their real situation. They think they are self-sufficient, self-reliant individualists. Scrappy entrepreneurs on the market. In fact, they vastly overproduce a perishable good. Every year, the government, funded largely by Joe and Jane Urban Dweller, steps in to soak up their ridiculous surplus...
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at February 07, 2025 12:14 PM (JCZqz)
Interesting take.
While I am not a fan of farm subsidies, it is important to look at the history there. Prior to farm subsidies, there was a little event called the dust bowl where food shortages were a real concern and where many farmers lost entire crops, and thus lost their farms to the banks. The farmers, of course, were at no real risk of starvation, as they could survive on what they grew.
So Joe and Jane Urban Dweller said "shit, I can't subside off my 2 tomato plants in the window and I don't want to starve to death."
Thus the birth of farm subsidies, where the government pays farmers to overproduce crops in case there is a year with particularly bad weather, so that Joe and Jane Urban Dweller don't starve to death.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at February 07, 2025 12:14 PM (JCZqz)
Interesting take.
While I am not a fan of farm subsidies, it is important to look at the history there. Prior to farm subsidies, there was a little event called the dust bowl where food shortages were a real concern and where many farmers lost entire crops, and thus lost their farms to the banks. The farmers, of course, were at no real risk of starvation, as they could survive on what they grew.
So Joe and Jane Urban Dweller said "shit, I can't subside off my 2 tomato plants in the window and I don't want to starve to death."
Thus the birth of farm subsidies, where the government pays farmers to overproduce crops in case there is a year with particularly bad weather, so that Joe and Jane Urban Dweller don't starve to death.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 07, 2025 12:19 PM (uCjyK)
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But chopping down government spending, which pays people out in freshly-printed Fantasy Dollars, will be a big help.
How much is a hand-job in Fantasy Dollars?
Posted by: Horny Former Fed Employee at February 07, 2025 12:05 PM (JCZqz)
DYI is free.
How much is a hand-job in Fantasy Dollars?
Posted by: Horny Former Fed Employee at February 07, 2025 12:05 PM (JCZqz)
DYI is free.
Posted by: Minuteman at February 07, 2025 12:19 PM (4YOYC)
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Apparently, "In 2023, the output of US farms contributed $222.3 billion to the US gross domestic product (GDP), which is about 0.8% of the total GDP."
$2.1 billion is about a 1% drop.
$2.1 billion is about a 1% drop.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:20 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 07, 2025 12:20 PM (lCWOD)
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How do you get the margins clean so it doesn't grow back?
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at February 07, 2025 12:20 PM (pIfcn)
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The unions can fuck right off
Billions upon billions to ANSWER, OWS, BLM, any gun grabber org of note, the media for hit pieces and censorship. Billions to foreign NGO's to drive censorship of Americans. Money for bioresearch used against us. Billions of dollars to filter though phoney baloney charities that these cunts sit on as "board members" and get housing, vehicles, travel, partying, and salaries.
They can sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up, or we can help Wikipedia expand the list of democides. Their call.
Billions upon billions to ANSWER, OWS, BLM, any gun grabber org of note, the media for hit pieces and censorship. Billions to foreign NGO's to drive censorship of Americans. Money for bioresearch used against us. Billions of dollars to filter though phoney baloney charities that these cunts sit on as "board members" and get housing, vehicles, travel, partying, and salaries.
They can sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up, or we can help Wikipedia expand the list of democides. Their call.
Posted by: heya at February 07, 2025 12:20 PM (nH+RN)
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I’m beginning to think it’s impossible to break the leftards belief that they are saving people in poor countries. They really think that sitting on their asses and voting democrat makes them saviors of the worlds poor and starving.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 07, 2025 12:21 PM (V1YGx)
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Already some legislation introduced to undo USAID completely. We'll see. Momentum is on the side of the aggressors.
But, yeah. The budget fight, which is brewing in the background, is going to be key. "We need to fund USAID to get 5 Democrats because I can't control my own caucus," is going to be said at some point.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:16 PM (GBKbO)
And all the usual suspects will be whining about how Thomas Massie is the bad guy.
But, yeah. The budget fight, which is brewing in the background, is going to be key. "We need to fund USAID to get 5 Democrats because I can't control my own caucus," is going to be said at some point.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:16 PM (GBKbO)
And all the usual suspects will be whining about how Thomas Massie is the bad guy.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 07, 2025 12:21 PM (SfHnh)
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Sometimes the only solution is to use a sword
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!
Sometimes the only solution is to use a sword
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 07, 2025 12:21 PM (xG4kz)
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88 What struck me is how fucking high the girl was. She’s totally tripping balls. She’s just staring off into space like she’s half in a coma. If someone told me this was the latest model robotic fuck doll, I would have believed it. She looks and acts like it.
Posted by: Elric The Blade
Kanye is off his meds again, clearly, and is now at the psychotic break portion of his disease. The problem is Kanye is talented, he is artistic, and he set out to have everyone and their brother talking about them. That is exactly what happened, mission accomplished. It didn’t matter that the buzz isn’t positive, it’s the buzz itself that matters to him. He is going to say he created exactly what he wanted, don’t question his genius. In all that, I imagine this girl is abused, and no, she is not going to say she is in an interview or when asked, duh you dumb journalists. She is probably an addict and not all there, otherwise being a pawn this way wouldn’t be as attractive to her, even with all his money.
Posted by: Elric The Blade
Kanye is off his meds again, clearly, and is now at the psychotic break portion of his disease. The problem is Kanye is talented, he is artistic, and he set out to have everyone and their brother talking about them. That is exactly what happened, mission accomplished. It didn’t matter that the buzz isn’t positive, it’s the buzz itself that matters to him. He is going to say he created exactly what he wanted, don’t question his genius. In all that, I imagine this girl is abused, and no, she is not going to say she is in an interview or when asked, duh you dumb journalists. She is probably an addict and not all there, otherwise being a pawn this way wouldn’t be as attractive to her, even with all his money.
Posted by: Piper at February 07, 2025 12:21 PM (pZEOD)
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carillon effect? I think that's it? the first "circle" gets most of the benefits of inflation, then as the money flows out it's a negative to everyone else (worse so as you get away from that first circle, as in, you and me)
Posted by: Black Orchid at February 07, 2025 12:21 PM (Pv3Rg)
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But chopping down government spending, which pays people out in freshly-printed Fantasy Dollars, will be a big help.
While the savings will be real, I honestly don't think it will put a huge dent in the deficit. I think the more important effect of this and the other RIFs will be a reduction in the scope, power and rife corruption in the federal government. At this point in time I think the latter is more important; among other things it's necessary to eventually attain the former, or in fact to achieve any lasting change.
Agree completely. USAID is small potatoes in terms of its budget, but it has outsize influence over the ability to cut off funds to the Dems and the media (BIRM).
While the savings will be real, I honestly don't think it will put a huge dent in the deficit. I think the more important effect of this and the other RIFs will be a reduction in the scope, power and rife corruption in the federal government. At this point in time I think the latter is more important; among other things it's necessary to eventually attain the former, or in fact to achieve any lasting change.
Agree completely. USAID is small potatoes in terms of its budget, but it has outsize influence over the ability to cut off funds to the Dems and the media (BIRM).
Posted by: Archimedes at February 07, 2025 12:21 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Sifty Boones at February 07, 2025 12:22 PM (NdR4L)
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These first few weeks have been like Trump teeing off about 400 golf balls in a huge room covered with ceramic tile. While those balls are ricocheted all over the place and the media and demoncrats are chasing them, Trump is doing something else.
What is Trump doing?
What is Trump doing?
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at February 07, 2025 12:22 PM (4XwPj)
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Afternoon Ace.
Even if the Dems go on attack with every BS lawsuit, Trump and DOGE have to keep going. The minute they let up the the will be stopped. Keep coming up with different ways to attack the corruption, keep the Dems off balance
So what you're saying is...keep up the skeer?
Even if the Dems go on attack with every BS lawsuit, Trump and DOGE have to keep going. The minute they let up the the will be stopped. Keep coming up with different ways to attack the corruption, keep the Dems off balance
So what you're saying is...keep up the skeer?
Posted by: Archimedes at February 07, 2025 12:22 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Black Orchid at February 07, 2025 12:22 PM (Pv3Rg)
Posted by: The Smell Of The gp, The Roar Of The Crowd at February 07, 2025 12:22 PM (u01/w)
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The bond market is going to skyrocket with a combination of reduced government wasteful spending and fed rate cuts.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 07, 2025 12:22 PM (lTGtQ)
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‘ And hopefully Trump will counter the lawfare and win.’
And then issue an EO banning the union suing him.
‘ And hopefully Trump will counter the lawfare and win.’
And then issue an EO banning the union suing him.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at February 07, 2025 12:22 PM (jbnUc)
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Rubio is coming into his own! I never expected this from him.
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He's always been a good politician, and I suspect he naturally has a lot of Reagan in him since he's Cuban. But he is shaped by his environment. Early on that was the Bush side, as he came of age with Jeb in Florida. But the GOP has moved from Bush to Trump and he has wisely shifted accordingly.
What does he want to do after SOS? Vance / Rubio? Govenor?
Surely, he still sees himself one day occupying the Oval Office.
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He's always been a good politician, and I suspect he naturally has a lot of Reagan in him since he's Cuban. But he is shaped by his environment. Early on that was the Bush side, as he came of age with Jeb in Florida. But the GOP has moved from Bush to Trump and he has wisely shifted accordingly.
What does he want to do after SOS? Vance / Rubio? Govenor?
Surely, he still sees himself one day occupying the Oval Office.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at February 07, 2025 12:22 PM (MvebX)
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This is like the scene in The Dark Knight where the Joker says there are going to be tryouts for his team.
Posted by: DPICM at February 07, 2025 12:23 PM (M2VUX)
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They really think that sitting on their asses and voting democrat makes them saviors of the worlds poor and starving.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
That is their view of charitable giving.
That they do far less of it by the means and channels that the rest of us use is a clear indicator of their belief.
They really think that sitting on their asses and voting democrat makes them saviors of the worlds poor and starving.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
That is their view of charitable giving.
That they do far less of it by the means and channels that the rest of us use is a clear indicator of their belief.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 07, 2025 12:23 PM (xG4kz)
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Interest rates aren't high. They're normal.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, J
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This is absolutely true. 3-6% I think.
My 1985 12% mortgage was abnormal. I put about 6% down if I recall. Cash is nice.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, J
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This is absolutely true. 3-6% I think.
My 1985 12% mortgage was abnormal. I put about 6% down if I recall. Cash is nice.
Posted by: From about That Time at February 07, 2025 12:23 PM (4780s)
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Its main thesis is that the people Trump is firing don't want to go to court, because they know that he's likely to win, and if he does, he'll increase his ability to fire people even more. IOW, Trump has set a classic briar patch trap for them.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 07, 2025 12:17 PM (xCA6C)
I have noticed that Trump tends to operate in a way to create a chess-like "fork", where he gets a step further on both decisions
Posted by: Archimedes at February 07, 2025 12:17 PM (xCA6C)
I have noticed that Trump tends to operate in a way to create a chess-like "fork", where he gets a step further on both decisions
Posted by: Kindltot at February 07, 2025 12:23 PM (D7oie)
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Isn't the part of the Constitution that says government jobs can't be eliminated in the Good & Plenty Clause?
Posted by: Minuteman
It's the Mike & Ike Clause.
Posted by: Minuteman
It's the Mike & Ike Clause.
Posted by: LASue at February 07, 2025 12:23 PM (lCppi)
Posted by: Black Orchid at February 07, 2025 12:23 PM (Pv3Rg)
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Elon Musk pointed out that 90% of USAID's payments go to recipients in the, get this, Washington DC area. It's just a funding mechanism for the left. It's just guaranteed employment for leftwing operatives when they're out of government.
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Offer them a one-way trip to Mars.
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Offer them a one-way trip to Mars.
Posted by: wth at February 07, 2025 12:23 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: The Smell Of The gp, The Roar Of The Crowd at February 07, 2025 12:23 PM (u01/w)
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Justin Murphy fucked nailed it. But it's more than just pimping global suffering and poverty. It's everything.
Literally everything the left or the PMC (but I repeat myself) does is deeply rooted in and purposed for maximum graft and stuffing their pockets with dirty laundered money.
Climate hysteria is one of the biggest ones, of course. "Palestinians" are also high on the list. Domestically, it's illegal aliens, domestic poverty, homelessness, drugs, trains to nowhere, etc.
Literally everything the left or the PMC (but I repeat myself) does is deeply rooted in and purposed for maximum graft and stuffing their pockets with dirty laundered money.
Climate hysteria is one of the biggest ones, of course. "Palestinians" are also high on the list. Domestically, it's illegal aliens, domestic poverty, homelessness, drugs, trains to nowhere, etc.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at February 07, 2025 12:23 PM (iFTx/)
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"Dear, we have to make up our minds on what to do. Take the buy out, or hang tough." Well, darling, you can always get a job with those people you funded over the years". "You don't understand. There is no more money". "Fuck you Kevin, you told me the money would always flow".
Some husband and wife in Chantilly
Some husband and wife in Chantilly
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 07, 2025 12:24 PM (gm9Sb)
Posted by: Al Greens' eye bags at February 07, 2025 12:24 PM (EFZgU)
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Just because it's your crises doesn't make it a humanitarian one. Just saying.
Posted by: From about That Time at February 07, 2025 12:24 PM (4780s)
Posted by: wth at February 07, 2025 12:24 PM (v0R5T)
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The lawsuit has no grounds for two reason. One, USAID was created from an executive order from JFK. It started with an EO, it can end with an EO. But it's not technically ending. It's being slashed. It still will have around 300 employees. They might not like it, but there's nothing illegal about it.
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 07, 2025 12:24 PM (ewjUl)
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>> Thus the birth of farm subsidies, where the government pays farmers to overproduce crops in case there is a year with particularly bad weather, so that Joe and Jane Urban Dweller don't starve to death.
Like so much of modern economics, it’s a complete perversion of a healthy system.
What do urban dwellers *produce*? Numbers in a spreadsheet? USAID grant proposals? Dog-walking apps that lose money on every user but make it up on volume?
Like so much of modern economics, it’s a complete perversion of a healthy system.
What do urban dwellers *produce*? Numbers in a spreadsheet? USAID grant proposals? Dog-walking apps that lose money on every user but make it up on volume?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 07, 2025 12:24 PM (l3YAf)
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Regarding all the alleged US farm spending involved here...
This is classic "continuous improvement" methodology.
Stop EVERYTHING. See who complains. Restore only those things people complained were stopped.
Now, it just remains to be seen if anyone is actually complaining, or if this is just a Democrat ploy to garner sympathy. If we're really shipping $2B in grain / food abroad and its all stalled in place, the receipients would likely complain. I'll stand by for complaints from actual nation states being impacted by this. And then, we can continue that work under the direct supervision of the State Department, not USAID. And the other $68B in funding for USAID that nobody is complaining about is CANCELLED.
This is classic "continuous improvement" methodology.
Stop EVERYTHING. See who complains. Restore only those things people complained were stopped.
Now, it just remains to be seen if anyone is actually complaining, or if this is just a Democrat ploy to garner sympathy. If we're really shipping $2B in grain / food abroad and its all stalled in place, the receipients would likely complain. I'll stand by for complaints from actual nation states being impacted by this. And then, we can continue that work under the direct supervision of the State Department, not USAID. And the other $68B in funding for USAID that nobody is complaining about is CANCELLED.
Posted by: deadrody at February 07, 2025 12:24 PM (qf6NU)
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USAID was not on my radar as a major Deep State power center. Can't wait to see what else DOGE comes up with.
Posted by: Ripley at February 07, 2025 12:13 PM (GUOwU)
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That was apparently the point of USAID in the first place. Create an innocuous-sounding organization that appears to do a lot of good around the world. Fill it with people who are deep, deep, deep into shady shit. Move money around ad infinitum so no one knows what's actually going on.
Only let Congress look at the surface stuff because most of Congress is probably on the take whether they know it or not.
Posted by: Ripley at February 07, 2025 12:13 PM (GUOwU)
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That was apparently the point of USAID in the first place. Create an innocuous-sounding organization that appears to do a lot of good around the world. Fill it with people who are deep, deep, deep into shady shit. Move money around ad infinitum so no one knows what's actually going on.
Only let Congress look at the surface stuff because most of Congress is probably on the take whether they know it or not.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 07, 2025 12:24 PM (7fElN)
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Gonna need to see Rubio's Squat/Bench/Deadlift totals go up before he is President material.
He is on a roll, but he lacks Bronson in his current state.
Gonna need to see Rubio's Squat/Bench/Deadlift totals go up before he is President material.
He is on a roll, but he lacks Bronson in his current state.
Posted by: Sifty Boones at February 07, 2025 12:24 PM (NdR4L)
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I interpret this to mean that all the people that got shit canned were nothing more than useless eunuch mandarins whose sole official function was to examine the emperor's turds
You do paint a picture.
You do paint a picture.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 07, 2025 12:24 PM (xCA6C)
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This is like the scene in The Dark Knight where the Joker says there are going to be tryouts for his team.
Posted by: DPICM
The disappearing pencil trick has already been executed -- "We're cutting things way, way back!"
This is like the scene in The Dark Knight where the Joker says there are going to be tryouts for his team.
Posted by: DPICM
The disappearing pencil trick has already been executed -- "We're cutting things way, way back!"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 07, 2025 12:24 PM (xG4kz)
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Oh and another reason I like this approach...for years the GOP has looked at our massive spending and argued the only way to approach it is to start with the biggest items like Social Security.
Each time they've tried this they've failed - because things like SS have a large inherent level of support across the political spectrum.
But USAID? It 100% benefits leftists and NTs. Cutting this only hurts the left. So does it solve the spending crises? No. But it gets us a little closer, which is more then any previous GOP initiatives, AND takes money away from our enemies
Each time they've tried this they've failed - because things like SS have a large inherent level of support across the political spectrum.
But USAID? It 100% benefits leftists and NTs. Cutting this only hurts the left. So does it solve the spending crises? No. But it gets us a little closer, which is more then any previous GOP initiatives, AND takes money away from our enemies
Posted by: 18-1 at February 07, 2025 12:24 PM (t0Rmr)
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"3 I'm shocked it took them this long. They must have needed to find the angle to sue that won't cost them when they lose.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 07, 2025 12:01 PM (kAFFE)"
This angle costs them now, before the suit even has legs
Nobody is buying this bullshit and we're not amused. Some judge has no jurisdiction to steal our fucking money and hand it to charlatans even if there IS a humanitarian crisis - somewhere else, happening to non-US citizens.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 07, 2025 12:01 PM (kAFFE)"
This angle costs them now, before the suit even has legs
Nobody is buying this bullshit and we're not amused. Some judge has no jurisdiction to steal our fucking money and hand it to charlatans even if there IS a humanitarian crisis - somewhere else, happening to non-US citizens.
Posted by: heya at February 07, 2025 12:25 PM (nH+RN)
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The 294 number is probably about right.
Workers in most gov't agencies are essentially the equivalent of 18th or 19th Century clerks - Bob Cratchits, if you will.
Buuuuut, this is the era of the computer.
And these clerks do little more than the grunt work of dispensing funds or notices to the recipient as directed by their superior.
One guy with a computer can probably do the work of 100 clerks without breaking a sweat.
There are depts, say the FDA, which require specialized knowledge and skills and the downsizing will require a more careful touch, but clerks...Nope.
Workers in most gov't agencies are essentially the equivalent of 18th or 19th Century clerks - Bob Cratchits, if you will.
Buuuuut, this is the era of the computer.
And these clerks do little more than the grunt work of dispensing funds or notices to the recipient as directed by their superior.
One guy with a computer can probably do the work of 100 clerks without breaking a sweat.
There are depts, say the FDA, which require specialized knowledge and skills and the downsizing will require a more careful touch, but clerks...Nope.
Posted by: naturalfake at February 07, 2025 12:25 PM (iJfKG)
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>>> 104 87 These farmers have an imaginary understanding of their real situation. They think they are self-sufficient, self-reliant individualists. Scrappy entrepreneurs on the market. In fact, they vastly overproduce a perishable good. Every year, the government, funded largely by Joe and Jane Urban Dweller, steps in to soak up their ridiculous surplus...
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at February 07, 2025 12:14 PM (JCZqz)
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Major corporations who run most of America's farms think like this?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:17 PM (GBKbO)
Yeah, I'd love to know *exactly* where their claimed $2.1 *billion* was spent, 'cause I missed out on my share.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at February 07, 2025 12:14 PM (JCZqz)
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Major corporations who run most of America's farms think like this?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:17 PM (GBKbO)
Yeah, I'd love to know *exactly* where their claimed $2.1 *billion* was spent, 'cause I missed out on my share.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 07, 2025 12:25 PM (Vqx30)
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153 The lawsuit has no grounds for two reason. One, USAID was created from an executive order from JFK. It started with an EO, it can end with an EO. But it's not technically ending. It's being slashed. It still will have around 300 employees. They might not like it, but there's nothing illegal about it.
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 07, 2025 12:24 PM (ewjUl)
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It's also being moved under an actual cabinet officer as part of the Department of State.
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 07, 2025 12:24 PM (ewjUl)
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It's also being moved under an actual cabinet officer as part of the Department of State.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:25 PM (GBKbO)
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Some watery tart threw a sword at you?
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 07, 2025 12:25 PM (KWujZ)
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While the savings will be real, I honestly don't think it will put a huge dent in the deficit. I think the more important effect of this and the other RIFs will be a reduction in the scope, power and rife corruption in the federal government. At this point in time I think the latter is more important; among other things it's necessary to eventually attain the former, or in fact to achieve any lasting change.
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Cutting half a billion in spending on illegals will cause grocery prices to fall and housing to follow. We would have been in a deflationary recession 18 months ago without the illegal spending, and its commisserate impact on GDP.
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Cutting half a billion in spending on illegals will cause grocery prices to fall and housing to follow. We would have been in a deflationary recession 18 months ago without the illegal spending, and its commisserate impact on GDP.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 07, 2025 12:25 PM (lTGtQ)
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Let those eunuchs who are getting remaindered at least leave with their severed balls and their rice bowls, by all that is holy!
Let those eunuchs who are getting remaindered at least leave with their severed balls and their rice bowls, by all that is holy!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 07, 2025 12:26 PM (xG4kz)
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@134 absolutely, keep them so scared they can't move or they'd make a mess unclenching their buttocks
Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 07, 2025 12:26 PM (EUtBO)
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Our exports of free and subsidized grains to Africa has destroyed local farming.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 07, 2025 12:26 PM (aD39U)
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So, The Empire Strikes Back… seen this before..
Posted by: tubal at February 07, 2025 12:26 PM (PCK5/)
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Trump specifically tries to use win-win in everything he does. It's a quality strategy and it makes sense when you think about it.
Posted by: ... at February 07, 2025 12:26 PM (Ja2Pp)
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153 The lawsuit has no grounds for two reason. One, USAID was created from an executive order from JFK. It started with an EO, it can end with an EO. But it's not technically ending. It's being slashed. It still will have around 300 employees. They might not like it, but there's nothing illegal about it.
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 07, 2025 12:24 PM (ewjUl)
Yes, in law, there's no requirement on how big the USAID office has to be (it was put in law though, if I remember right, so it can't just be EO ended)...
Trump is ignoring bureaucracy created regulations and just looking at passed laws...that's a good thing...
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 07, 2025 12:24 PM (ewjUl)
Yes, in law, there's no requirement on how big the USAID office has to be (it was put in law though, if I remember right, so it can't just be EO ended)...
Trump is ignoring bureaucracy created regulations and just looking at passed laws...that's a good thing...
Posted by: Nova Local at February 07, 2025 12:26 PM (exHjb)
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I remember Boeing laying off thousands in a work downturn. Most were union jobs. Some claimed a threat to air safety. That was years ago...and they are still here. The USAID and their union can go take a flying leap at a rolling donut.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 07, 2025 12:26 PM (W/lyH)
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"160 Oh and another reason I like this approach...for years the GOP has looked at our massive spending and argued the only way to approach it is to start with the biggest items like Social Security.
Each time they've tried this they've failed - because things like SS have a large inherent level of support across the political spectrum.
But USAID? It 100% benefits leftists and NTs. Cutting this only hurts the left. So does it solve the spending crises? No. But it gets us a little closer, which is more then any previous GOP initiatives, AND takes money away from our enemies
Posted by: 18-1 at February 07, 2025 12:24 PM (t0Rmr)"
There is a reason why the named Kristol and some GOP congresshits first when they started whining. The GOP has been on the take as well. The GOP did nothing because they GOP wanted to do nothing.
Each time they've tried this they've failed - because things like SS have a large inherent level of support across the political spectrum.
But USAID? It 100% benefits leftists and NTs. Cutting this only hurts the left. So does it solve the spending crises? No. But it gets us a little closer, which is more then any previous GOP initiatives, AND takes money away from our enemies
Posted by: 18-1 at February 07, 2025 12:24 PM (t0Rmr)"
There is a reason why the named Kristol and some GOP congresshits first when they started whining. The GOP has been on the take as well. The GOP did nothing because they GOP wanted to do nothing.
Posted by: heya at February 07, 2025 12:26 PM (nH+RN)
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along with our export of strategic Superbowl loser tee-shirts and caps.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 07, 2025 12:26 PM (aD39U)
Posted by: t-bird at February 07, 2025 12:26 PM (zMQny)
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carillon effect? I think that's it? the first "circle" gets most of the benefits of inflation, then as the money flows out it's a negative to everyone else (worse so as you get away from that first circle, as in, you and me)
Posted by: Black Orchid at February 07, 2025 12:21 PM (Pv3Rg)
Cantillon effect.
Posted by: Black Orchid at February 07, 2025 12:21 PM (Pv3Rg)
Cantillon effect.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 07, 2025 12:27 PM (l3YAf)
178
So, if USAID was literally buying $2.1B of American farm products (and I don't think they were, but let's pretend) - why?
Is this not the job or US Dept of Agriculture and Health and Human Services if the government wants to buy farm surplus - one buys to feed the poor of the other (bring back the poor food boxes). Why would the State Department ever get involved in buying US farm products? That's not their job...
Posted by: Nova Local at February 07, 2025 12:19 PM (exHjb)
USAID is not the state department. State has their own, separate slush fund.
And I think in this scenario, the allegation is that Agg buys the agreed upon surplus crops then sells / gives it to USAID to distribute to Africa or whatever.
But I'm sure it's not that straightforward, and subsidies are coming from all over the place and going all over the place and no one really knows what's going on other than a lot of people are getting rich by dipping their beaks in the river of money flowing by them at all times.
Is this not the job or US Dept of Agriculture and Health and Human Services if the government wants to buy farm surplus - one buys to feed the poor of the other (bring back the poor food boxes). Why would the State Department ever get involved in buying US farm products? That's not their job...
Posted by: Nova Local at February 07, 2025 12:19 PM (exHjb)
USAID is not the state department. State has their own, separate slush fund.
And I think in this scenario, the allegation is that Agg buys the agreed upon surplus crops then sells / gives it to USAID to distribute to Africa or whatever.
But I'm sure it's not that straightforward, and subsidies are coming from all over the place and going all over the place and no one really knows what's going on other than a lot of people are getting rich by dipping their beaks in the river of money flowing by them at all times.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 07, 2025 12:27 PM (uCjyK)
179
Still crickets in the Zombie MFM, but I think the word is getting out, despite their best efforts.
Posted by: LASue at February 07, 2025 12:27 PM (lCppi)
Posted by: wth at February 07, 2025 12:27 PM (v0R5T)
181
Keep up the full court press. Do whatever it takes to keep Maxine Waters in front of the camera. She has the appeal of Behar without the looks. We couldn't ask for a better (D) spokesperson.
Posted by: Vanilla Ice at February 07, 2025 12:27 PM (qoB0Q)
182
Sorry, I meant half a trillion on illegal alien spending.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 07, 2025 12:28 PM (lTGtQ)
183
carillon effect? I think that's it? the first "circle" gets most of the benefits of inflation, then as the money flows out it's a negative to everyone else (worse so as you get away from that first circle, as in, you and me)
Posted by: Black Orchid at February 07, 2025 12:21 PM (Pv3Rg)
Cantillon effect, and that is exactly what it is. It is also referred as "those that get the money first, get to buy tomorrow's goods at yesterday's prices".
Carillon effect is decent as a joke since it really does ring up the extra change
(WHICH IS FUNNY BECAUSE THE RINGING VARIATION OF THE CARILLON IS CALED "RINGING THE CHANGES")
Posted by: Black Orchid at February 07, 2025 12:21 PM (Pv3Rg)
Cantillon effect, and that is exactly what it is. It is also referred as "those that get the money first, get to buy tomorrow's goods at yesterday's prices".
Carillon effect is decent as a joke since it really does ring up the extra change
(WHICH IS FUNNY BECAUSE THE RINGING VARIATION OF THE CARILLON IS CALED "RINGING THE CHANGES")
Posted by: Kindltot at February 07, 2025 12:28 PM (D7oie)
184
Endeavor to persevere Donald..
Posted by: tubal at February 07, 2025 12:28 PM (PCK5/)
185
I don’t think they should cut rates yet. There’s been too much BS put out by the govt on the health of the economy. I don’t think we really know where we are.
Inflation is still clearly higher than the govt says it is.
Inflation is still clearly higher than the govt says it is.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 07, 2025 12:28 PM (V1YGx)
186
"Yeah, I'd love to know *exactly* where their claimed $2.1 *billion* was spent, 'cause I missed out on my share.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 07, 2025 12:25 PM (Vqx30)"
Everyone thinks there is some nefarious scheme with Gates and others buying up farmland but the simple reality is probably that it was as a passive source of income via graft like this.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 07, 2025 12:25 PM (Vqx30)"
Everyone thinks there is some nefarious scheme with Gates and others buying up farmland but the simple reality is probably that it was as a passive source of income via graft like this.
Posted by: heya at February 07, 2025 12:28 PM (nH+RN)
Posted by: The Smell Of The gp, The Roar Of The Crowd at February 07, 2025 12:28 PM (u01/w)
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But USAID? It 100% benefits leftists and NTs. Cutting this only hurts the left. So does it solve the spending crises? No. But it gets us a little closer, which is more then any previous GOP initiatives, AND takes money away from our enemies
Posted by: 18-1 at February 07, 2025 12:24 PM
Good point. The secondary benefit is that a tranny opera in Peru is the hill the dems are willing to die on. Let them.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 07, 2025 12:24 PM
Good point. The secondary benefit is that a tranny opera in Peru is the hill the dems are willing to die on. Let them.
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 07, 2025 12:28 PM (ewjUl)
189
Sometimes a crossbow.
Posted by: Boss Moss
......
Sometimes a mace.
Posted by: wth
I've always been partial to poleaxes, myself.
Posted by: Boss Moss
......
Sometimes a mace.
Posted by: wth
I've always been partial to poleaxes, myself.
Posted by: Bulg at February 07, 2025 12:28 PM (77rzZ)
190
***In their lawsuit, the unions claim the shutdown has created a "global humanitarian crisis"
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They are the global humanitarianism crisis.
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They are the global humanitarianism crisis.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 07, 2025 12:28 PM (lCWOD)
191
It just dawned on me:
Elon Musk is an immigrant doing the work that Americans won't do.
Carry on, African. Carry on.
Elon Musk is an immigrant doing the work that Americans won't do.
Carry on, African. Carry on.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at February 07, 2025 12:29 PM (iFTx/)
192
136 "***Sometimes the only solution is to use a sword.***"
Gordian: "NO! KNOT THE SWORD! NO!"
Posted by: The Smell Of The gp, The Roar Of The Crowd at February 07, 2025 12:22 PM (u01/w)
Exactly. Alexander the Great knew a thing or two.
Gordian: "NO! KNOT THE SWORD! NO!"
Posted by: The Smell Of The gp, The Roar Of The Crowd at February 07, 2025 12:22 PM (u01/w)
Exactly. Alexander the Great knew a thing or two.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at February 07, 2025 12:30 PM (ynpvh)
193
OT but super annoyed with Fettermonster kowtowing to Schumer last night
the big baby!
he needs to GO
the big baby!
he needs to GO
Posted by: Black Orchid at February 07, 2025 12:30 PM (Pv3Rg)
194
There are depts, say the FDA, which require specialized knowledge and skills and the downsizing will require a more careful touch, but clerks...Nope.
Posted by: naturalfake at February 07, 2025 12:25 PM (iJfKG)
The FDA’s “specialized knowledge” is mostly bs. They’re mostly just shuffling papers and covering up how many people pharma companies are killing and maiming.
Posted by: naturalfake at February 07, 2025 12:25 PM (iJfKG)
The FDA’s “specialized knowledge” is mostly bs. They’re mostly just shuffling papers and covering up how many people pharma companies are killing and maiming.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 07, 2025 12:30 PM (l3YAf)
195
The 294 number is probably about right.
When you think of the number of toilets necessary for buildings that house 14,000 workers... yeah, 294 seems very reasonable.
When you think of the number of toilets necessary for buildings that house 14,000 workers... yeah, 294 seems very reasonable.
Posted by: t-bird at February 07, 2025 12:30 PM (CFrOc)
196
The 294 number is probably about right.
Workers in most gov't agencies are essentially the equivalent of 18th or 19th Century clerks - Bob Cratchits, if you will.
Buuuuut, this is the era of the computer.
And these clerks do little more than the grunt work of dispensing funds or notices to the recipient as directed by their superior.
One guy with a computer can probably do the work of 100 clerks without breaking a sweat.
There are depts, say the FDA, which require specialized knowledge and skills and the downsizing will require a more careful touch, but clerks...Nope.
Posted by: naturalfake
We joke, but it's not really a joke.
"Yeah, that Teams meeting could have been an email. "
And now it will be.
Workers in most gov't agencies are essentially the equivalent of 18th or 19th Century clerks - Bob Cratchits, if you will.
Buuuuut, this is the era of the computer.
And these clerks do little more than the grunt work of dispensing funds or notices to the recipient as directed by their superior.
One guy with a computer can probably do the work of 100 clerks without breaking a sweat.
There are depts, say the FDA, which require specialized knowledge and skills and the downsizing will require a more careful touch, but clerks...Nope.
Posted by: naturalfake
We joke, but it's not really a joke.
"Yeah, that Teams meeting could have been an email. "
And now it will be.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 07, 2025 12:30 PM (fUDLX)
197
The Left: BUT ELON MUSK DIDN'T GRADUATE COLLEGE, WHAT DOES HE KNOW ABOUT RUNNING ANYTHING??
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 07, 2025 12:30 PM (XV/Pl)
198
You know own who wants to keep the trough full? The hogs.
The tall hogs at the trough are the deep state/ uniparty. What motivates liberals and "conservatives " to be on the same side, money. Ask Bill Kristol or anybody at Politico... the psychopaths who pull this country stings created open access to the ATM of the govt funds. We don't have a budget, because without there is no accountability, and no reason to say no to a spending request. It's organized crime. Full stop.
The tall hogs at the trough are the deep state/ uniparty. What motivates liberals and "conservatives " to be on the same side, money. Ask Bill Kristol or anybody at Politico... the psychopaths who pull this country stings created open access to the ATM of the govt funds. We don't have a budget, because without there is no accountability, and no reason to say no to a spending request. It's organized crime. Full stop.
Posted by: It's a crime scene and the media tells you Trump is the problem at February 07, 2025 12:30 PM (DFTk8)
199
Saw Nanzi being interviewed by Aaandreaa. She kept referring to "the children" being the reason they pushed Biden out . They had to beat Trump for the children.
Sam Kinison responds : now the children will suffer Nanzi, you suck, you lost . Aah, aaah aaaah
Sam Kinison responds : now the children will suffer Nanzi, you suck, you lost . Aah, aaah aaaah
Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 07, 2025 12:30 PM (EUtBO)
200
Elon Musk is an immigrant doing the work that Americans won't do.
Why all the African-American hate?
Elon Musk is an immigrant doing the work that Americans won't do.
Why all the African-American hate?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 07, 2025 12:30 PM (xG4kz)
201
Good point. The secondary benefit is that a tranny opera in Peru is the hill the dems are willing to die on. Let them.
Yup. The harder they scream about losing money for nonsense like this, the more the average voter pays attention and says "why the f*** was my tax money going to this?".
Yup. The harder they scream about losing money for nonsense like this, the more the average voter pays attention and says "why the f*** was my tax money going to this?".
Posted by: Archimedes at February 07, 2025 12:30 PM (xCA6C)
202
How do the unions have standing to a global huminatarian crisis?
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 07, 2025 12:30 PM (KWujZ)
203
Inflation is still clearly higher than the govt says it is.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
Inflation is measured in dollars, which have been debased.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
Inflation is measured in dollars, which have been debased.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 07, 2025 12:30 PM (lTGtQ)
204
193 OT but super annoyed with Fettermonster kowtowing to Schumer last night
the big baby!
he needs to GO
Posted by: Black Orchid at February 07, 2025 12:30 PM (Pv3Rg)
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Yeah...It was not unpredictable.
the big baby!
he needs to GO
Posted by: Black Orchid at February 07, 2025 12:30 PM (Pv3Rg)
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Yeah...It was not unpredictable.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:30 PM (GBKbO)
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"185 I don’t think they should cut rates yet. There’s been too much BS put out by the govt on the health of the economy. I don’t think we really know where we are.
Inflation is still clearly higher than the govt says it is.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 07, 2025 12:28 PM (V1YGx)"
It is much worse, and it's also very unlikely to get notably better this side of a default. They did this on purpose - either they get to steer the ship during a "crisis", or they get to have PDT take the wheel when it kicks off because they intended to have BLS stop pencil whipping the books. They hedged their bets.
They did not hedge their bets against Musk and PDT going all Conan the Barbarian, though... and there is a reason Musk is in the BLS books today.
Inflation is still clearly higher than the govt says it is.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 07, 2025 12:28 PM (V1YGx)"
It is much worse, and it's also very unlikely to get notably better this side of a default. They did this on purpose - either they get to steer the ship during a "crisis", or they get to have PDT take the wheel when it kicks off because they intended to have BLS stop pencil whipping the books. They hedged their bets.
They did not hedge their bets against Musk and PDT going all Conan the Barbarian, though... and there is a reason Musk is in the BLS books today.
Posted by: heya at February 07, 2025 12:30 PM (nH+RN)
206
Cutting this only hurts the left. So does it solve the spending crises? No. But it gets us a little closer, which is more then any previous GOP initiatives, AND takes money away from our enemies
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Right on. Of course, it doesn't really cut government spending down much.
But there is no way to tackle that until you tackle this.
And I'm starting to wonder if the SS spending problem is as bad as we have been told. Logically, one would assume that pyramid scheme is nearing its end. But perhaps the Musk team can show it is far more solvent than we have been led to believe.
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Right on. Of course, it doesn't really cut government spending down much.
But there is no way to tackle that until you tackle this.
And I'm starting to wonder if the SS spending problem is as bad as we have been told. Logically, one would assume that pyramid scheme is nearing its end. But perhaps the Musk team can show it is far more solvent than we have been led to believe.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at February 07, 2025 12:31 PM (MvebX)
207
193 OT but super annoyed with Fettermonster kowtowing to Schumer last night
the big baby!
he needs to GO
Posted by: Black Orchid at February 07, 2025 12:30 PM (Pv3Rg)
He’s working to be Manchin, Part Deux…. hardcore Leftie, should fool no one…
the big baby!
he needs to GO
Posted by: Black Orchid at February 07, 2025 12:30 PM (Pv3Rg)
He’s working to be Manchin, Part Deux…. hardcore Leftie, should fool no one…
Posted by: tubal at February 07, 2025 12:31 PM (PCK5/)
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Major corporations who run most of America's farms think like this?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:17 PM (GBKbO)
Yeah, I'd love to know *exactly* where their claimed $2.1 *billion* was spent, 'cause I missed out on my share.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 07, 2025 12:25 PM (Vqx30)
When I was driving through rural Kansas recently, there were large grain elevators and whatnot, had the name "Pride" on the side of the buildings.
I thought that was a little odd. I wonder who owns Pride.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:17 PM (GBKbO)
Yeah, I'd love to know *exactly* where their claimed $2.1 *billion* was spent, 'cause I missed out on my share.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 07, 2025 12:25 PM (Vqx30)
When I was driving through rural Kansas recently, there were large grain elevators and whatnot, had the name "Pride" on the side of the buildings.
I thought that was a little odd. I wonder who owns Pride.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 07, 2025 12:31 PM (7bmh6)
209
Yup. The harder they scream about losing money for nonsense like this, the more the average voter pays attention and says "why the f*** was my tax money going to this?".
Posted by: Archimedes at February 07, 2025 12:30 PM
And more importantly, why is this politician screaming about it?
Posted by: Archimedes at February 07, 2025 12:30 PM
And more importantly, why is this politician screaming about it?
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 07, 2025 12:31 PM (ewjUl)
210
It just dawned on me:
Elon Musk is an immigrant doing the work that Americans won't do.
Carry on, African. Carry on.
Posted by: Elric The Blade
It really pisses off the Americans who weren't born there when you call him an African American.
Elon Musk is an immigrant doing the work that Americans won't do.
Carry on, African. Carry on.
Posted by: Elric The Blade
It really pisses off the Americans who weren't born there when you call him an African American.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 07, 2025 12:32 PM (fUDLX)
211
"194 There are depts, say the FDA, which require specialized knowledge and skills and the downsizing will require a more careful touch, but clerks...Nope.
Posted by: naturalfake at February 07, 2025 12:25 PM (iJfKG)
The FDA’s “specialized knowledge” is mostly bs. They’re mostly just shuffling papers and covering up how many people pharma companies are killing and maiming.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 07, 2025 12:30 PM (l3YAf)"
FDA sold out years ago, now they just rubber stamp shit.
Posted by: naturalfake at February 07, 2025 12:25 PM (iJfKG)
The FDA’s “specialized knowledge” is mostly bs. They’re mostly just shuffling papers and covering up how many people pharma companies are killing and maiming.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 07, 2025 12:30 PM (l3YAf)"
FDA sold out years ago, now they just rubber stamp shit.
Posted by: heya at February 07, 2025 12:32 PM (nH+RN)
212
The Left: BUT ELON MUSK DIDN'T GRADUATE COLLEGE, WHAT DOES HE KNOW ABOUT RUNNING ANYTHING??
Posted by: Thomas Bender
He can capture a falling rocket stage with giant tweezers.
You cannot be bothered to pick your little balls of shit off a restroom's floor.
The Left: BUT ELON MUSK DIDN'T GRADUATE COLLEGE, WHAT DOES HE KNOW ABOUT RUNNING ANYTHING??
Posted by: Thomas Bender
He can capture a falling rocket stage with giant tweezers.
You cannot be bothered to pick your little balls of shit off a restroom's floor.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 07, 2025 12:32 PM (xG4kz)
213
The 294 number is probably about right.
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Take the 294 that will be retiring this year.
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Take the 294 that will be retiring this year.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at February 07, 2025 12:32 PM (MvebX)
214
President Trump needs to whip inflation now! Have you priced a good marble rye recently?
Posted by: Mrs. Choate at February 07, 2025 12:32 PM (G5+As)
215
>>> 186
==
Everyone thinks there is some nefarious scheme with Gates and others buying up farmland but the simple reality is probably that it was as a passive source of income via graft like this.
Posted by: heya at February 07, 2025 12:28 PM (nH+RN)
Why not both?
==
Everyone thinks there is some nefarious scheme with Gates and others buying up farmland but the simple reality is probably that it was as a passive source of income via graft like this.
Posted by: heya at February 07, 2025 12:28 PM (nH+RN)
Why not both?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 07, 2025 12:32 PM (Vqx30)
216
Keep up the full court press. Do whatever it takes to keep Maxine Waters in front of the camera. She has the appeal of Behar without the looks. We couldn't ask for a better (D) spokesperson.
Posted by: Vanilla Ice
.......
Her and Chuck Schumer should take dance lessons. They look kind of stiff.
Posted by: Vanilla Ice
.......
Her and Chuck Schumer should take dance lessons. They look kind of stiff.
Posted by: wth at February 07, 2025 12:32 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 07, 2025 12:33 PM (xG4kz)
218
What about the price of eggs, hmm?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 07, 2025 12:33 PM (aD39U)
219
[I0What is Trump doing?
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at February 07, 2025 12:22 PM (4XwPj)
He is tearing stuff up.
the status quo was killing us, he is resetting the table. It is one of those things that are not single level effects like changing the wallpaper and drapes, it is like ripping out walls to improve traffic flow.
If it goes through, it will change the whole aspect, probably of the world.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at February 07, 2025 12:22 PM (4XwPj)
He is tearing stuff up.
the status quo was killing us, he is resetting the table. It is one of those things that are not single level effects like changing the wallpaper and drapes, it is like ripping out walls to improve traffic flow.
If it goes through, it will change the whole aspect, probably of the world.
Posted by: Kindltot at February 07, 2025 12:33 PM (D7oie)
220
So does it solve the spending crises? No. But it gets us a little closer, which is more then any previous GOP initiatives, AND takes money away from our enemies
Posted by: 18-1 at February 07, 2025 12:24 PM (t0Rmr)
If by enemies you mean the GOP.
I mean Democrats... DEMOCRATS! Did I imply the GOP is *also* benefitting from things like USAID and would have had incentives to protect it? Bad Ellipsis. Bad, bad Ellipsis!!!
Posted by: 18-1 at February 07, 2025 12:24 PM (t0Rmr)
If by enemies you mean the GOP.
I mean Democrats... DEMOCRATS! Did I imply the GOP is *also* benefitting from things like USAID and would have had incentives to protect it? Bad Ellipsis. Bad, bad Ellipsis!!!
Posted by: ... at February 07, 2025 12:33 PM (Ja2Pp)
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Had an African girl who worked for me, a while back… 100% African… solid Boer stock…
Posted by: tubal at February 07, 2025 12:33 PM (PCK5/)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 07, 2025 12:33 PM (x0n13)
223
Trump should just simply go Col. Jessup during a press conference. Either way. I don't give a DAMN at what you think you're entitled to!
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 07, 2025 12:33 PM (ewjUl)
224
I remember Boeing laying off thousands in a work downturn. Most were union jobs. Some claimed a threat to air safety. That was years ago...and they are still here. The USAID and their union can go take a flying leap at a rolling donut.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 07, 2025 12:26 PM (W/lyH)
Boeing and air safety in the same sentence???
Posted by: Diogenes at February 07, 2025 12:26 PM (W/lyH)
Boeing and air safety in the same sentence???
Posted by: OrangeEnt at February 07, 2025 12:33 PM (0eaVi)
225
Climate hysteria is one of the biggest ones, of course. "Palestinians" are also high on the list. Domestically, it's illegal aliens, domestic poverty, homelessness, drugs, trains to nowhere, etc.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at February 07, 2025 12:23 PM (iFTx/)
I've had some clients involved in the homeless industrial complex in NYC.
Holy shit is that industry breathtaking.
God knows how many billions of dollars floating around. Lots of people getting incredibly rich.
But on the ground level, the private shelters are horrific disgusting places staffed by $17/hr desperate people who are not too far from being homeless themselves. And the "outreach" people in the subways are in the same boat. They get hired, get a clipboard and a t-shirt and are told to go talk to homeless people in the subway system for, whatever, $17/hr.
And the billions of dollars disappear somewhere between the govt and the $17/hr employees who are, obviously, doing absolutely nothing to address the homeless situation.
If we solved homelessness, it would end this entire industry. We will never solve it.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at February 07, 2025 12:23 PM (iFTx/)
I've had some clients involved in the homeless industrial complex in NYC.
Holy shit is that industry breathtaking.
God knows how many billions of dollars floating around. Lots of people getting incredibly rich.
But on the ground level, the private shelters are horrific disgusting places staffed by $17/hr desperate people who are not too far from being homeless themselves. And the "outreach" people in the subways are in the same boat. They get hired, get a clipboard and a t-shirt and are told to go talk to homeless people in the subway system for, whatever, $17/hr.
And the billions of dollars disappear somewhere between the govt and the $17/hr employees who are, obviously, doing absolutely nothing to address the homeless situation.
If we solved homelessness, it would end this entire industry. We will never solve it.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 07, 2025 12:34 PM (uCjyK)
226
Karoline Leavitt Is a walking, talking girl boss master class. She is a thing.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at February 07, 2025 12:34 PM (Q8Bj8)
227
Workers in most gov't agencies are essentially the equivalent of 18th or 19th Century clerks - Bob Cratchits, if you will.
Buuuuut, this is the era of the computer.
And these clerks do little more than the grunt work of dispensing funds or notices to the recipient as directed by their superior.
One guy with a computer can probably do the work of 100 clerks without breaking a sweat.
There are depts, say the FDA, which require specialized knowledge and skills and the downsizing will require a more careful touch, but clerks...Nope.
I retired right before Covid hit. We still had to get physical signatures on pieces of paper, e.g. approval to present a talk, that we, the PhD staff, walked around the base. When we asked why we were still doing this, the reply was that it was coming, but it was very difficult to implement electronically.
Miraculously, when Covid hit, the impediments to electronic signatures vanished.
I often muse about how many expensive hours of highly skilled time were utterly wasted in that exercise of walking paper around.
Buuuuut, this is the era of the computer.
And these clerks do little more than the grunt work of dispensing funds or notices to the recipient as directed by their superior.
One guy with a computer can probably do the work of 100 clerks without breaking a sweat.
There are depts, say the FDA, which require specialized knowledge and skills and the downsizing will require a more careful touch, but clerks...Nope.
I retired right before Covid hit. We still had to get physical signatures on pieces of paper, e.g. approval to present a talk, that we, the PhD staff, walked around the base. When we asked why we were still doing this, the reply was that it was coming, but it was very difficult to implement electronically.
Miraculously, when Covid hit, the impediments to electronic signatures vanished.
I often muse about how many expensive hours of highly skilled time were utterly wasted in that exercise of walking paper around.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 07, 2025 12:34 PM (xCA6C)
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So, did Fetterman and his wife get back together? I understand she was with him at Mar-A-Lago.
Maybe that's the reason he's going back to being an overt lefty.
Maybe that's the reason he's going back to being an overt lefty.
Posted by: Bulg at February 07, 2025 12:34 PM (77rzZ)
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BREAKING: Suspending Approval of State Electric Vehicle Infrastructure Deployment Plans
https://www.fhwa.dot.gov /environment/nevi/resources /state-plan-approval-suspension.pdf
https://www.fhwa.dot.gov /environment/nevi/resources /state-plan-approval-suspension.pdf
Posted by: Nova Local at February 07, 2025 12:34 PM (exHjb)
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"156 USAID was not on my radar as a major Deep State power center. Can't wait to see what else DOGE comes up with.
Posted by: Ripley at February 07, 2025 12:13 PM (GUOwU)
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That was apparently the point of USAID in the first place. Create an innocuous-sounding organization that appears to do a lot of good around the world. Fill it with people who are deep, deep, deep into shady shit. Move money around ad infinitum so no one knows what's actually going on.
Only let Congress look at the surface stuff because most of Congress is probably on the take whether they know it or not.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 07, 2025 12:24 PM (7fElN)"
That's exactly the thing.. none of this was secret, but nobody had the resources and will to crunch all the connections and make them searchable. Until now.
That's why the DC judge saying Musk isn't allowed to share the info is smoking crack. Fuck you buddy, this info is in the public domain. You can't bar THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH THAT CONTROLS THE AGENCY GENERATING THE PUBLIC INFO from talking about or publishing the info. They need to tell that guy to fuck off, or better yet show his family is on the take - as they most likely are.
Posted by: Ripley at February 07, 2025 12:13 PM (GUOwU)
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That was apparently the point of USAID in the first place. Create an innocuous-sounding organization that appears to do a lot of good around the world. Fill it with people who are deep, deep, deep into shady shit. Move money around ad infinitum so no one knows what's actually going on.
Only let Congress look at the surface stuff because most of Congress is probably on the take whether they know it or not.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 07, 2025 12:24 PM (7fElN)"
That's exactly the thing.. none of this was secret, but nobody had the resources and will to crunch all the connections and make them searchable. Until now.
That's why the DC judge saying Musk isn't allowed to share the info is smoking crack. Fuck you buddy, this info is in the public domain. You can't bar THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH THAT CONTROLS THE AGENCY GENERATING THE PUBLIC INFO from talking about or publishing the info. They need to tell that guy to fuck off, or better yet show his family is on the take - as they most likely are.
Posted by: heya at February 07, 2025 12:34 PM (nH+RN)
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218 What about the price of eggs, hmm?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 07, 2025 12:33 PM (aD39U)
Depends on the ovaries you get them from!!
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 07, 2025 12:33 PM (aD39U)
Depends on the ovaries you get them from!!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 07, 2025 12:35 PM (x0n13)
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There's nothing funnier than British comedy. Rowan Arkins, Monty Python, BBC!
BBC global charity justifies USAID contributions, says they 'deliver trusted information' globally
BBC global charity justifies USAID contributions, says they 'deliver trusted information' globally
Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at February 07, 2025 12:35 PM (L/fGl)
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I've been worried about inflation -- how is Trump going to cut it? We don't want the fed keeping interest rates high forever. That throttles the economy.
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Interest rates aren't high, they normally should float around 8-12%
They're *higher* than they were when they were approaching 0, but that was all about cheating economic laws in the short term. For a healthy economy in the long term, you have to have higher rates to discourage bullshit "investments."
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Interest rates aren't high, they normally should float around 8-12%
They're *higher* than they were when they were approaching 0, but that was all about cheating economic laws in the short term. For a healthy economy in the long term, you have to have higher rates to discourage bullshit "investments."
Posted by: Methos at February 07, 2025 12:35 PM (Dnobf)
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I know Musk needs to frame this as an "efficiency/fraud reduction" issue, because that's his purview.
But it would be nice if they were talking about the real reason they're shutting down USAID ... That would be a real "national conversation," once people understood what just what USAID is actually for, and does on behalf of the CIA and State Department.
But it would be nice if they were talking about the real reason they're shutting down USAID ... That would be a real "national conversation," once people understood what just what USAID is actually for, and does on behalf of the CIA and State Department.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 07, 2025 12:35 PM (0l8OY)
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I just saw a weeping writeup on LinkedIn by a former fibs employee bemoaning the pending firing of 6000 highly trained professionals that will of course harm the ability of the agency to fight terrorism and crime throughout America. A lot of the DC swamp creatures that I still know either liked it or commented. The comments were about what you would think.
It was clear to me none of them had stood up to voice a concern at a school board meeting; had the audacity to pause for a moment while walking past an abortion clinic; or after getting off the metro, had stopped to just watch events unfold in DC on Jan 6th.
There are roughly 38,000 employees at the Agency. I can guarantee you that 3800 of them (the bottom 10%) cannot justify their paycheck.
These people just don't get it.
It was clear to me none of them had stood up to voice a concern at a school board meeting; had the audacity to pause for a moment while walking past an abortion clinic; or after getting off the metro, had stopped to just watch events unfold in DC on Jan 6th.
There are roughly 38,000 employees at the Agency. I can guarantee you that 3800 of them (the bottom 10%) cannot justify their paycheck.
These people just don't get it.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 07, 2025 12:35 PM (W/lyH)
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147 "Kanye is talented, he is artistic"
???
Posted by: The Smell Of The gp
He is. You may not like his art, which is fine, but he is. This is why he is a billionaire. He is also quite smart, when his synapses are synapsing.
???
Posted by: The Smell Of The gp
He is. You may not like his art, which is fine, but he is. This is why he is a billionaire. He is also quite smart, when his synapses are synapsing.
Posted by: Piper at February 07, 2025 12:35 PM (pZEOD)
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I think the phrase is terrible swift sword. Someone apparently has taken that to heart.
Posted by: Rex Reeder's Ghost at February 07, 2025 12:35 PM (MZ+PY)
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"Trump can't do this!"
"Current events suggest otherwise. May I suggest crying harder?"
"Current events suggest otherwise. May I suggest crying harder?"
Posted by: NR Pax at February 07, 2025 12:35 PM (OPGS/)
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228 So, did Fetterman and his wife get back together? I understand she was with him at Mar-A-Lago.
Maybe that's the reason he's going back to being an overt lefty.
Posted by: Bulg at February 07, 2025 12:34 PM (77rzZ)
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Talk is cheap.
He's never actually done anything remotely conservative.
Maybe that's the reason he's going back to being an overt lefty.
Posted by: Bulg at February 07, 2025 12:34 PM (77rzZ)
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Talk is cheap.
He's never actually done anything remotely conservative.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:35 PM (GBKbO)
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Fetterman is simply a limousine leftist… privileged from birth, spoon fed bullshit elitism from the get-go…
Posted by: tubal at February 07, 2025 12:35 PM (PCK5/)
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I love how the left is saying Musk shouldn't be in charge or DOGE because his companies received $20 billion in government subsidies.
THAT'S what you want to argue? That his companies received $20 billion under Biden? You really want to go after government waste by admitting that?
THAT'S what you want to argue? That his companies received $20 billion under Biden? You really want to go after government waste by admitting that?
Posted by: rickb223 at February 07, 2025 12:35 PM (fUDLX)
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I thought that was a little odd. I wonder who owns Pride.
Posted by: BurtTC
Pilgrims
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 07, 2025 12:33 PM (xG4kz)
Progress!
Posted by: BurtTC
Pilgrims
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 07, 2025 12:33 PM (xG4kz)
Progress!
Posted by: BurtTC at February 07, 2025 12:35 PM (7bmh6)
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There are depts, say the FDA, which require specialized knowledge and skills and the downsizing will require a more careful touch, but clerks...Nope.
Posted by: naturalfake at February 07, 2025 12:25 PM (iJfKG)
The FDA’s “specialized knowledge” is mostly bs. They’re mostly just shuffling papers and covering up how many people pharma companies are killing and maiming.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 07, 2025 12:30 PM (l3YAf)
Nah. They actually do useful work for general health that requires specialized knowledge in medicine. biochemistry, and engineering.
That being said, the crew that handled the COVID "vaccine" absolutely did not do their job at any level and need to be the first out the door on their asses.
And, of course anyone else not doing what their job is. Everyone else doing their jobs correctly should be safe.
Posted by: naturalfake at February 07, 2025 12:25 PM (iJfKG)
The FDA’s “specialized knowledge” is mostly bs. They’re mostly just shuffling papers and covering up how many people pharma companies are killing and maiming.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 07, 2025 12:30 PM (l3YAf)
Nah. They actually do useful work for general health that requires specialized knowledge in medicine. biochemistry, and engineering.
That being said, the crew that handled the COVID "vaccine" absolutely did not do their job at any level and need to be the first out the door on their asses.
And, of course anyone else not doing what their job is. Everyone else doing their jobs correctly should be safe.
Posted by: naturalfake at February 07, 2025 12:36 PM (iJfKG)
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Trump is the Worst Hitler Evah!
Posted by: ShainS -- Behold the Initiation of Trump's 'Operation Crossfire Boomerang' at February 07, 2025 12:36 PM (QOEHB)
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@226
>>Karoline Leavitt Is a walking, talking girl boss master class. She is a thing.
She's also SAF.
Trump sure knows how to pick the ladies that represent him, smart and hot*.
* Amarosa excepted, she was hot though.
>>Karoline Leavitt Is a walking, talking girl boss master class. She is a thing.
She's also SAF.
Trump sure knows how to pick the ladies that represent him, smart and hot*.
* Amarosa excepted, she was hot though.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 07, 2025 12:36 PM (XV/Pl)
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Trump has an ace(heh) up his sleeve.
There has been some, but not very much, publicity about GOPe recipients of USAID funds. He's holding that Sword of Damocles leverage over the GOPe in Congress.
There has been some, but not very much, publicity about GOPe recipients of USAID funds. He's holding that Sword of Damocles leverage over the GOPe in Congress.
Posted by: davidt at February 07, 2025 12:36 PM (i0F8b)
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232 There's nothing funnier than British comedy. Rowan Arkins, Monty Python, BBC!
BBC global charity justifies USAID contributions, says they 'deliver trusted information' globally
Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at February 07, 2025 12:35 PM (L/fGl)
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Keep doing it without my money.
BBC global charity justifies USAID contributions, says they 'deliver trusted information' globally
Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at February 07, 2025 12:35 PM (L/fGl)
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Keep doing it without my money.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:36 PM (GBKbO)
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Honestly, I really need someone to look at this thing.
"Hey Doc, lookit this thing!"
Yo, Tonypete, you don't need to show it to me.
"Are you kidding, I'm showing it to everyone!!"
"Hey Doc, lookit this thing!"
Yo, Tonypete, you don't need to show it to me.
"Are you kidding, I'm showing it to everyone!!"
Posted by: Tonypete (The entire joke) at February 07, 2025 12:36 PM (WXNFJ)
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218 What about the price of eggs, hmm?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 07, 2025 12:33 PM (aD39U)
Depends on the ovaries you get them from!!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 07, 2025 12:35 PM
If you think about it, everyone here was once the fastest swimmer in the group! And we all won our first egg hunt!
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 07, 2025 12:33 PM (aD39U)
Depends on the ovaries you get them from!!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 07, 2025 12:35 PM
If you think about it, everyone here was once the fastest swimmer in the group! And we all won our first egg hunt!
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 07, 2025 12:36 PM (ewjUl)
Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2025 12:36 PM (Odg76)
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In their lawsuit, the unions claim the shutdown has created a "global humanitarian crisis" and are seeking an injunction to stop further actions.
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Translation: "We want to keep our phony-baloney jobs."
In their lawsuit, the unions claim the shutdown has created a "global humanitarian crisis" and are seeking an injunction to stop further actions.
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Translation: "We want to keep our phony-baloney jobs."
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at February 07, 2025 12:36 PM (Ijbq0)
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Imagine the single biggest grifter in Congress is actually called Joe Mansion. Think about that.
Posted by: ... at February 07, 2025 12:37 PM (Ja2Pp)
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>> BREAKING: Suspending Approval of State Electric Vehicle Infrastructure Deployment Plans
Dear lord, I haven’t had refractory periods this brief since I was 19..
Dear lord, I haven’t had refractory periods this brief since I was 19..
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 07, 2025 12:37 PM (l3YAf)
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Musk has degrees (physics and economics) from Upen Wharton.
Posted by: runner at February 07, 2025 12:37 PM (g47mK)
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If USAID is the norm, then most government auditors should be fired.
Posted by: mr tmz at February 07, 2025 12:37 PM (rJ48h)
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230 They need to tell that guy to fuck off, or better yet show his family is on the take - as they most likely are.
Show him the evidence in private. Tell him back off or it goes public. And then release it once he backs off.
Show him the evidence in private. Tell him back off or it goes public. And then release it once he backs off.
Posted by: NR Pax at February 07, 2025 12:37 PM (OPGS/)
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USAID isn't "dismantled" if there are a handful of people still working there.
Posted by: Roy at February 07, 2025 12:37 PM (z+ik4)
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Everyone thinks there is some nefarious scheme with Gates and others buying up farmland but the simple reality is probably that it was as a passive source of income via graft like this.
Posted by: heya at February 07, 2025 12:28 PM (nH+RN)
Why not both?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 07, 2025 12:32 PM (Vqx30)
Bill Gates wants you dead. Whatever other motivations he has for doing whatever it is he does, he wants you dead.
You, and 90% of the rest of the human population.
Posted by: heya at February 07, 2025 12:28 PM (nH+RN)
Why not both?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 07, 2025 12:32 PM (Vqx30)
Bill Gates wants you dead. Whatever other motivations he has for doing whatever it is he does, he wants you dead.
You, and 90% of the rest of the human population.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 07, 2025 12:37 PM (7bmh6)
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239 228 So, did Fetterman and his wife get back together? I understand she was with him at Mar-A-Lago.
Maybe that's the reason he's going back to being an overt lefty.
Posted by: Bulg at February 07, 2025 12:34 PM (77rzZ)
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Talk is cheap.
He's never actually done anything remotely conservative.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:35 PM (GBKbO)
Exactly… he drapes himself in the Israeli flag, and some swoon… we are always looking for the next Zell Miller, but those sort are extinct.
Maybe that's the reason he's going back to being an overt lefty.
Posted by: Bulg at February 07, 2025 12:34 PM (77rzZ)
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Talk is cheap.
He's never actually done anything remotely conservative.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:35 PM (GBKbO)
Exactly… he drapes himself in the Israeli flag, and some swoon… we are always looking for the next Zell Miller, but those sort are extinct.
Posted by: tubal at February 07, 2025 12:37 PM (PCK5/)
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255 If USAID is the norm, then most government auditors should be fired jailed.
Posted by: mr tmz at February 07, 2025 12:37 PM (rJ48h)
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FIFY.
Posted by: mr tmz at February 07, 2025 12:37 PM (rJ48h)
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FIFY.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:37 PM (GBKbO)
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228 So, did Fetterman and his wife get back together? I understand she was with him at Mar-A-Lago.
Maybe that's the reason he's going back to being an overt lefty.
Posted by: Bulg at February
When did they break up?
Maybe that's the reason he's going back to being an overt lefty.
Posted by: Bulg at February
When did they break up?
Posted by: Piper at February 07, 2025 12:38 PM (pZEOD)
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In their lawsuit, the unions claim the shutdown has created a "global humanitarian crisis" and are seeking an injunction to stop further actions.
Because how can the World survive without Transgender Operas in Ireland ?
In their lawsuit, the unions claim the shutdown has created a "global humanitarian crisis" and are seeking an injunction to stop further actions.
Because how can the World survive without Transgender Operas in Ireland ?
Posted by: It's me donna at February 07, 2025 12:38 PM (VE6XX)
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I think the phrase is terrible swift sword. Someone apparently has taken that to heart.
Posted by: Rex Reeder's Ghost
That or the old Silly Valley motto: Move fast and break stuff.
Posted by: Rex Reeder's Ghost
That or the old Silly Valley motto: Move fast and break stuff.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 07, 2025 12:38 PM (mlg/3)
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VOTE VANCE!
Posted by: Sid at February 07, 2025 12:38 PM (bkXav)
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At one time I was the youngest person on Earth.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 07, 2025 12:38 PM (aD39U)
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218 What about the price of eggs, hmm?
Liberal friend was being snarky about that. I pointed out that I buy eggs from a farm for less and the price hasn't changed that much.
Liberal friend was being snarky about that. I pointed out that I buy eggs from a farm for less and the price hasn't changed that much.
Posted by: NR Pax at February 07, 2025 12:38 PM (OPGS/)
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Gonna need to see Rubio's Squat/Bench/Deadlift totals go up before he is President material.
He is on a roll, but he lacks Bronson in his current state.
Posted by: Sifty Boones at February 07, 2025 12:24 PM (NdR4L)
I have to say this about Rubio, he used to look petulant when he was crossed, now he looks royally pissed.
within two years he is going to be able to have that "towering fury behind the mask" look down.
He is on a roll, but he lacks Bronson in his current state.
Posted by: Sifty Boones at February 07, 2025 12:24 PM (NdR4L)
I have to say this about Rubio, he used to look petulant when he was crossed, now he looks royally pissed.
within two years he is going to be able to have that "towering fury behind the mask" look down.
Posted by: Kindltot at February 07, 2025 12:38 PM (D7oie)
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Shut up, Dunce.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 07, 2025 12:38 PM (aD39U)
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Harris would lifting the country up, not tearing it down!!!
That is professional grade sarcasm. I'm kind of impressed.
That is professional grade sarcasm. I'm kind of impressed.
Posted by: NR Pax at February 07, 2025 12:39 PM (OPGS/)
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259 Exactly… he drapes himself in the Israeli flag, and some swoon… we are always looking for the next Zell Miller, but those sort are extinct.
Posted by: tubal at February 07, 2025 12:37 PM (PCK5/)
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When there were actual blue dog Democrats, they all fell in line for the ACA.
The idea that they will ever exist again (questioning whether they ever existed in the first place is another question) without the complete collapse of the Democrat funding apparatus is silly.
Posted by: tubal at February 07, 2025 12:37 PM (PCK5/)
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When there were actual blue dog Democrats, they all fell in line for the ACA.
The idea that they will ever exist again (questioning whether they ever existed in the first place is another question) without the complete collapse of the Democrat funding apparatus is silly.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:39 PM (GBKbO)
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CNN just unintentionally made the funniest news segment of all time. They reported on a 19-year-old DOGE staffer whose online name is "Big Balls." 😂
Posted by: SMOD at February 07, 2025 12:39 PM (RHGPo)
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"It disrupts global humanitarian aid"
Cue up Jeremy Clarkson gif.
Even if we we didn't see that these groups were 49% Democrat money laundering, even if we didn't see another 49% was tax payer funded pushing of liberal policy, I still wouldn't care. It shouldn't be my, or any other American's job, to be the savior of the world, unless they voluntarily do so.
Their argument is basically we as Americans have 2 choices, give your money to shine 3rd world shit hole that will never be fixed no matter how much money they recieve, or go to prison.
Cue up Jeremy Clarkson gif.
Even if we we didn't see that these groups were 49% Democrat money laundering, even if we didn't see another 49% was tax payer funded pushing of liberal policy, I still wouldn't care. It shouldn't be my, or any other American's job, to be the savior of the world, unless they voluntarily do so.
Their argument is basically we as Americans have 2 choices, give your money to shine 3rd world shit hole that will never be fixed no matter how much money they recieve, or go to prison.
Posted by: Rbastid at February 07, 2025 12:39 PM (B/cqL)
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I just saw a weeping writeup on LinkedIn by a former fibs employee bemoaning the pending firing of 6000 highly trained professionals that will of course harm the ability of the agency to fight terrorism and crime throughout America. A lot of the DC swamp creatures that I still know either liked it or commented. The comments were about what you would think.
It was clear to me none of them had stood up to voice a concern at a school board meeting; had the audacity to pause for a moment while walking past an abortion clinic; or after getting off the metro, had stopped to just watch events unfold in DC on Jan 6th.
I'll take the removal of those people who threaten the country and its citizens any day over losing some ability to fight crime and terrorism. The people who threaten the country are a much bigger threat.
I can always repopulate the agency with people who understand their role but are also good at police work.
It was clear to me none of them had stood up to voice a concern at a school board meeting; had the audacity to pause for a moment while walking past an abortion clinic; or after getting off the metro, had stopped to just watch events unfold in DC on Jan 6th.
I'll take the removal of those people who threaten the country and its citizens any day over losing some ability to fight crime and terrorism. The people who threaten the country are a much bigger threat.
I can always repopulate the agency with people who understand their role but are also good at police work.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 07, 2025 12:39 PM (xCA6C)
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>What do urban dwellers *produce*? Numbers in a spreadsheet? USAID grant proposals? Dog-walking apps that lose money on every user but make it up on volume?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 07, 2025 12:24 PM (l3YAf)
Also gay shit like the Ace of Spades HQ web log
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 07, 2025 12:24 PM (l3YAf)
Also gay shit like the Ace of Spades HQ web log
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at February 07, 2025 12:40 PM (u/aQx)
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The FDA’s “specialized knowledge” is mostly bs. They’re mostly just shuffling papers and covering up how many people pharma companies are killing and maiming.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 07, 2025 12:30 PM (l3YAf)"
FDA sold out years ago, now they just rubber stamp shit.
Posted by: heya at February 07, 2025 12:32 PM (nH+RN)
I question a number of decisions they make.
about 8 years ago older dau in law was burned in an accident and she was part of a trial to use pineapple enzyme in the healing process. it was a 5 year study.
the procedure and enzyme had been in use in europe for over 10 years. why the hell couldn't the fda just review the existing eu test AND follow on case data to make a decision rather than force the company to go through a very expensive test to prove what was already known...?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 07, 2025 12:30 PM (l3YAf)"
FDA sold out years ago, now they just rubber stamp shit.
Posted by: heya at February 07, 2025 12:32 PM (nH+RN)
I question a number of decisions they make.
about 8 years ago older dau in law was burned in an accident and she was part of a trial to use pineapple enzyme in the healing process. it was a 5 year study.
the procedure and enzyme had been in use in europe for over 10 years. why the hell couldn't the fda just review the existing eu test AND follow on case data to make a decision rather than force the company to go through a very expensive test to prove what was already known...?
Posted by: Sturmtoddler at February 07, 2025 12:40 PM (nXhwP)
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When did they break up?
Posted by: Piper
There was speculation that they had done so awhile back, since she wasn't seen with him much in public.
Posted by: Piper
There was speculation that they had done so awhile back, since she wasn't seen with him much in public.
Posted by: Bulg at February 07, 2025 12:40 PM (77rzZ)
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I retired right before Covid hit. We still had to get physical signatures on pieces of paper, e.g. approval to present a talk, that we, the PhD staff, walked around the base. When we asked why we were still doing this, the reply was that it was coming, but it was very difficult to implement electronically.
Miraculously, when Covid hit, the impediments to electronic signatures vanished.
I often muse about how many expensive hours of highly skilled time were utterly wasted in that exercise of walking paper around.
Posted by: Archimedes
DocuSign.
Just had a senior executive vp electronically sign a half million dollar invoice and email it back to me so I could file it and send a copy to AP for payment.
Miraculously, when Covid hit, the impediments to electronic signatures vanished.
I often muse about how many expensive hours of highly skilled time were utterly wasted in that exercise of walking paper around.
Posted by: Archimedes
DocuSign.
Just had a senior executive vp electronically sign a half million dollar invoice and email it back to me so I could file it and send a copy to AP for payment.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 07, 2025 12:40 PM (fUDLX)
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Ace's letters from Mrs Fetterman to her hubby while she was a groupie are a classic. Should try the get back together letters phase
Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 07, 2025 12:40 PM (EUtBO)
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Karoline Leavitt Is a walking, talking girl boss master class. She is a thing.
She's also SAF.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 07, 2025 12:36 PM (XV/Pl)
I thought she was White?? She's a Single Asian Femaie?
She's also SAF.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 07, 2025 12:36 PM (XV/Pl)
I thought she was White?? She's a Single Asian Femaie?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at February 07, 2025 12:40 PM (0eaVi)
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Agree if he wins a EO banning JFK's order unionized government workers
Posted by: Skip at February 07, 2025 12:41 PM (fwDg9)
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It has been a tough few weeks for the softhands and faceworkers of America.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 07, 2025 12:41 PM (aD39U)
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But it would be nice if they were talking about the real reason they're shutting down USAID ... That would be a real "national conversation," once people understood what just what USAID is actually for, and does on behalf of the CIA and State Department.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 07, 2025 12:35 PM (0l8OY)
Agreed. That's the discussion I want to have.
"Every conspiracy theory you've heard about the government in your life? Turns out it's true. Here's the proof."
Not "haha USAID is so dumb and wasteful!"
It's not the waste that should have our blood boiling here. It's that the conspiracy is being laid bare in a way it hasn't been in probably 50 years.
We need to hammer that in. Somehow.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 07, 2025 12:35 PM (0l8OY)
Agreed. That's the discussion I want to have.
"Every conspiracy theory you've heard about the government in your life? Turns out it's true. Here's the proof."
Not "haha USAID is so dumb and wasteful!"
It's not the waste that should have our blood boiling here. It's that the conspiracy is being laid bare in a way it hasn't been in probably 50 years.
We need to hammer that in. Somehow.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 07, 2025 12:41 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: davidt at February 07, 2025 12:41 PM (i0F8b)
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CNN just unintentionally made the funniest news segment of all time. They reported on a 19-year-old DOGE staffer whose online name is "Big Balls."
We'll shortly see Deez Nuts take a bow on CNN's chyron.
What mischief did Deez Nuts get into?
CNN just unintentionally made the funniest news segment of all time. They reported on a 19-year-old DOGE staffer whose online name is "Big Balls."
We'll shortly see Deez Nuts take a bow on CNN's chyron.
What mischief did Deez Nuts get into?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 07, 2025 12:41 PM (xG4kz)
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BREAKING: Suspending Approval of State Electric Vehicle Infrastructure Deployment Plans
I just had a jolt of arousal. Again.
I just had a jolt of arousal. Again.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at February 07, 2025 12:41 PM (Q8Bj8)
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CNN just unintentionally made the funniest news segment of all time. They reported on a 19-year-old DOGE staffer whose online name is "Big Balls." 😂
Posted by: SMOD at February 07, 2025 12:39 PM (RHGPo)
Too bad none of the posters here are on Team Elon. Imagine the news having to report the online names like Charlie Brown's Dildo, smell the glove etc.
Posted by: SMOD at February 07, 2025 12:39 PM (RHGPo)
Too bad none of the posters here are on Team Elon. Imagine the news having to report the online names like Charlie Brown's Dildo, smell the glove etc.
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 07, 2025 12:41 PM (ewjUl)
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had a dream or nightmare where I was explaining to her that 1/25th is 4%....as it pertained to interest rates the law of 72 and the culture of savings....
she claimed in my dream that savings were an oppressive tool of the patriarchy.
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So you dreamed you were married to an under 30 year old gal. It's not all giggles, splooshes and bouncy tits. Nope.
she claimed in my dream that savings were an oppressive tool of the patriarchy.
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So you dreamed you were married to an under 30 year old gal. It's not all giggles, splooshes and bouncy tits. Nope.
Posted by: Rent don't buy is solid advice if you are looking at sporty models at February 07, 2025 12:41 PM (DFTk8)
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Trump just said " is Time magazine still in business? I didn't know that" heh
Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 07, 2025 12:42 PM (EUtBO)
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"Show him the evidence in private. Tell him back off or it goes public. And then release it once he backs off.
Posted by: NR Pax at February 07, 2025 12:37 PM (OPGS/)"
Nah just release it. Tweet it right out at noon Eastern.
Make an example. Same thing they did to Kristol right off the bat.
Posted by: NR Pax at February 07, 2025 12:37 PM (OPGS/)"
Nah just release it. Tweet it right out at noon Eastern.
Make an example. Same thing they did to Kristol right off the bat.
Posted by: heya at February 07, 2025 12:42 PM (nH+RN)
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BREAKING: Disgraced ex-FBI official Peter Strzok's wife Melissa Hodgman has left her top enforcement job at the SEC, pressured out in Dec. Hodgman, a Hillary supporter, never recused herself from SEC probes of Trump Media & Technology. Strzok ran FBI's Russiagate op against Trump
Posted by: SMOD at February 07, 2025 12:42 PM (RHGPo)
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I question a number of decisions they make.
about 8 years ago older dau in law was burned in an accident and she was part of a trial to use pineapple enzyme in the healing process. it was a 5 year study.
the procedure and enzyme had been in use in europe for over 10 years. why the hell couldn't the fda just review the existing eu test AND follow on case data to make a decision rather than force the company to go through a very expensive test to prove what was already known...?
Posted by: Sturmtoddler
Because those were European pineapples?
about 8 years ago older dau in law was burned in an accident and she was part of a trial to use pineapple enzyme in the healing process. it was a 5 year study.
the procedure and enzyme had been in use in europe for over 10 years. why the hell couldn't the fda just review the existing eu test AND follow on case data to make a decision rather than force the company to go through a very expensive test to prove what was already known...?
Posted by: Sturmtoddler
Because those were European pineapples?
Posted by: rickb223 at February 07, 2025 12:42 PM (fUDLX)
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What's the read here on Trump's announcement to take over land in Gaza? I'm really hoping this is a bargaining chip and nothing more. I really don't want us physically in the middle of this conflict. I especially don't want future Dem presidencies "managing" that land. They will absolutely hide Hamas terrorists and their equipment as close to Israel as they can and any attempts by Israel to intervene will be called an act of war against the US.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2025 12:42 PM (Odg76)
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When did they break up?
Posted by: Piper
There was speculation that they had done so awhile back, since she wasn't seen with him much in public.
Posted by: Bulg at February 07, 2025 12:40 PM (77rzZ)
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She was hiking the Appalachian Trail
Posted by: Piper
There was speculation that they had done so awhile back, since she wasn't seen with him much in public.
Posted by: Bulg at February 07, 2025 12:40 PM (77rzZ)
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She was hiking the Appalachian Trail
Posted by: Elric The Blade at February 07, 2025 12:43 PM (iFTx/)
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I can always repopulate the agency with people who understand their role but are also good at police work.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 07, 2025 12:39 PM (xCA6C)
Agreed.
What was disappointing is some of the people commenting hold (or did hold) some pretty senior positions. Either they were virtue signaling to their fellow swamp creatures, or they are genuinely stupid about what it going on in America.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 07, 2025 12:39 PM (xCA6C)
Agreed.
What was disappointing is some of the people commenting hold (or did hold) some pretty senior positions. Either they were virtue signaling to their fellow swamp creatures, or they are genuinely stupid about what it going on in America.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 07, 2025 12:43 PM (W/lyH)
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NYPost: After squandering NYC’s trust, Anthony Weiner is determined to rise again: ‘I’m really good at this’
Posted by: SMOD at February 07, 2025 12:43 PM (RHGPo)
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9 In their lawsuit, the unions claim the shutdown has created a "global humanitarian crisis" and are seeking an injunction to stop further actions. They are pushing for the reopening of USAID offices, the resumption of grants and contracts, and a reversal of furlough notices.
So? What's that got to do with us?
They want help, let them pay tribute.
Posted by: OrangeEnt
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Classic pound on the table strategy. But AID was created by JFK by executive order to get around how bad the State Dept managed foreign aid. Ditto btw for diversity, equal opportunity, etc.
RIFs aka layoffs are specifically authorized to avoid civil service removal applying to specific individuals.
So? What's that got to do with us?
They want help, let them pay tribute.
Posted by: OrangeEnt
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Classic pound on the table strategy. But AID was created by JFK by executive order to get around how bad the State Dept managed foreign aid. Ditto btw for diversity, equal opportunity, etc.
RIFs aka layoffs are specifically authorized to avoid civil service removal applying to specific individuals.
Posted by: whig at February 07, 2025 12:43 PM (ctrM5)
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292 What's the read here on Trump's announcement to take over land in Gaza? I'm really hoping this is a bargaining chip and nothing more. I really don't want us physically in the middle of this conflict. I especially don't want future Dem presidencies "managing" that land. They will absolutely hide Hamas terrorists and their equipment as close to Israel as they can and any attempts by Israel to intervene will be called an act of war against the US.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2025 12:42 PM (Odg76)
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Trump says something big and outrageous: WAY TOO MANY people take it seriously like he has a plan to implement it today.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2025 12:42 PM (Odg76)
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Trump says something big and outrageous: WAY TOO MANY people take it seriously like he has a plan to implement it today.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:43 PM (GBKbO)
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So far USAID
* Stops veteran suicides
* Feeds starving children
* Protects women from violence
And Now it....
* Fights terror!
They must be trying to gather popular Republican support for it now. The puppies and rainbow stuff doesn't work on Joe Republican but once you mention TERROR.
* Stops veteran suicides
* Feeds starving children
* Protects women from violence
And Now it....
* Fights terror!
They must be trying to gather popular Republican support for it now. The puppies and rainbow stuff doesn't work on Joe Republican but once you mention TERROR.
Posted by: ... at February 07, 2025 12:43 PM (Ja2Pp)
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Union sees their dues shriveling up so got to protect their cushy phony jobs.
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 07, 2025 12:43 PM (azCAX)
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Karoline Leavitt Is a walking, talking girl boss master class. She is a thing.
She's also SAF.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 07, 2025 12:36 PM (XV/Pl)
I thought she was White?? She's a Single Asian Femaie?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at February 07, 2025 12:40 PM (0eaVi)
Siberian Air Force. Both white AND Asian.
She's also SAF.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 07, 2025 12:36 PM (XV/Pl)
I thought she was White?? She's a Single Asian Femaie?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at February 07, 2025 12:40 PM (0eaVi)
Siberian Air Force. Both white AND Asian.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 07, 2025 12:43 PM (7bmh6)
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>> Nah. They actually do useful work for general health that requires specialized knowledge in medicine. biochemistry, and engineering.
Have you worked with the FDA? Pharma companies? I have.
They’re mostly full of it.
>> That being said, the crew that handled the COVID "vaccine" absolutely did not do their job at any level and need to be the first out the door on their asses.
The covid vaccines were only an anomaly in that they didn’t take a decade and $150 million to get approved. They received just as much care and attention as any other FDA-regulated product.
Have you worked with the FDA? Pharma companies? I have.
They’re mostly full of it.
>> That being said, the crew that handled the COVID "vaccine" absolutely did not do their job at any level and need to be the first out the door on their asses.
The covid vaccines were only an anomaly in that they didn’t take a decade and $150 million to get approved. They received just as much care and attention as any other FDA-regulated product.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 07, 2025 12:43 PM (l3YAf)
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USAID is generational grift. It is deep and insidious. We are only seeing the surface of this. When and if the truth of this comes out it will be a watershed moment for the US.
USAID is generational grift. It is deep and insidious. We are only seeing the surface of this. When and if the truth of this comes out it will be a watershed moment for the US.
Posted by: Frank Barone at February 07, 2025 12:43 PM (+oR7L)
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Because those were European pineapples?
Posted by: rickb223
Zombie Manuel Noriega's ears perked up
Because those were European pineapples?
Posted by: rickb223
Zombie Manuel Noriega's ears perked up
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 07, 2025 12:43 PM (xG4kz)
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291 I question a number of decisions they make.
about 8 years ago older dau in law was burned in an accident and she was part of a trial to use pineapple enzyme in the healing process. it was a 5 year study.
the procedure and enzyme had been in use in europe for over 10 years. why the hell couldn't the fda just review the existing eu test AND follow on case data to make a decision rather than force the company to go through a very expensive test to prove what was already known...?
Posted by: Sturmtoddler
B/c European scientists are even more corrupt than our US government ones are? I mean, they want things cheap and not necessarily curative when it's single payer government care...
about 8 years ago older dau in law was burned in an accident and she was part of a trial to use pineapple enzyme in the healing process. it was a 5 year study.
the procedure and enzyme had been in use in europe for over 10 years. why the hell couldn't the fda just review the existing eu test AND follow on case data to make a decision rather than force the company to go through a very expensive test to prove what was already known...?
Posted by: Sturmtoddler
B/c European scientists are even more corrupt than our US government ones are? I mean, they want things cheap and not necessarily curative when it's single payer government care...
Posted by: Nova Local at February 07, 2025 12:44 PM (exHjb)
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If USAID is the norm, then most government auditors should be fired jailed.
Posted by: mr tmz at February 07, 2025 12:37 PM (rJ48h)
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FIFY.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:37 PM (GBKbO)
What am I now? One step below the comfy chair?
Posted by: mr tmz at February 07, 2025 12:37 PM (rJ48h)
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FIFY.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:37 PM (GBKbO)
What am I now? One step below the comfy chair?
Posted by: Waterboarding at February 07, 2025 12:44 PM (y9nCu)
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276 There was speculation that they had done so awhile back, since she wasn't seen with him much in public.
Posted by: Bulg at February 07
Oh, okay. I thought I missed something. She said at the beginning she wasn’t moving to DC, she wasn’t disrupting the kids and she had her own business, unless I am confusing her with someone else.
Wasn’t she an illegal alien to start? Also, I think she is willing to be fluid in her politics, she seems more interested in maintaining her lifestyle. That said, Fetterman is a Dem who says things that make sense, but isn’t motivated to act on them, really.
Posted by: Bulg at February 07
Oh, okay. I thought I missed something. She said at the beginning she wasn’t moving to DC, she wasn’t disrupting the kids and she had her own business, unless I am confusing her with someone else.
Wasn’t she an illegal alien to start? Also, I think she is willing to be fluid in her politics, she seems more interested in maintaining her lifestyle. That said, Fetterman is a Dem who says things that make sense, but isn’t motivated to act on them, really.
Posted by: Piper at February 07, 2025 12:44 PM (pZEOD)
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the procedure and enzyme had been in use in europe for over 10 years. why the hell couldn't the fda just review the existing eu test AND follow on case data to make a decision rather than force the company to go through a very expensive test to prove what was already known...?
Posted by: Sturmtoddler at February 07, 2025 12:40 PM (nXhwP)
Because the FDA is just as corrupt as every other agency. I'm sure there is / was a financial reason. Maybe US Big Pharma had a few years left on their patents for whatever they had that wasn't pineapple enzymes. Or whoever was invested in the pineapple enzymes refused to make a pay off to someone. Or whatever.
Posted by: Sturmtoddler at February 07, 2025 12:40 PM (nXhwP)
Because the FDA is just as corrupt as every other agency. I'm sure there is / was a financial reason. Maybe US Big Pharma had a few years left on their patents for whatever they had that wasn't pineapple enzymes. Or whoever was invested in the pineapple enzymes refused to make a pay off to someone. Or whatever.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 07, 2025 12:44 PM (uCjyK)
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BREAKING: Disgraced ex-FBI official Peter Strzok's wife Melissa Hodgman has left her top enforcement job at the SEC, pressured out in Dec. Hodgman, a Hillary supporter, never recused herself from SEC probes of Trump Media & Technology. Strzok ran FBI's Russiagate op against Trump
Posted by: SMOD at February 07, 2025 12:42 PM
Didn't the idiot dump Petey when he got caught banging his coworker? Was she still married to crooked Pete?
Posted by: SMOD at February 07, 2025 12:42 PM
Didn't the idiot dump Petey when he got caught banging his coworker? Was she still married to crooked Pete?
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 07, 2025 12:44 PM (ewjUl)
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Presumptive UK Ambassador to USA Dodges Questions on Epstein Links: ‘You Can All F*ck Off.’
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"Because I'm going to f*ck on!" he added.
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"Because I'm going to f*ck on!" he added.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at February 07, 2025 12:44 PM (L/fGl)
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I can't wait for the DOGE to go through Medicare/Medicaid. The amount of fraud will be staggering.
I can't wait for the DOGE to go through Medicare/Medicaid. The amount of fraud will be staggering.
Posted by: Frank Barone at February 07, 2025 12:44 PM (+oR7L)
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> When did they break up?
After Fetterman publicly defended Israel she left the country. They were apart for a long time.
After Fetterman publicly defended Israel she left the country. They were apart for a long time.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2025 12:44 PM (Odg76)
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295 NYPost: After squandering NYC’s trust, Anthony Weiner is determined to rise again: ‘I’m really good at this’
Posted by: SMOD at February 07, 2025 12:43 PM (RHGPo)
The Weiner Rises…
Posted by: SMOD at February 07, 2025 12:43 PM (RHGPo)
The Weiner Rises…
Posted by: tubal at February 07, 2025 12:44 PM (PCK5/)
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292 What's the read here on Trump's announcement to take over land in Gaza?
It's a flip on the meme about the "river to the sea" which got rid of all jews from israel
It's a flip on the meme about the "river to the sea" which got rid of all jews from israel
Posted by: SMOD at February 07, 2025 12:44 PM (RHGPo)
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What about the price of eggs, hmm?
Liberal friend was being snarky about that. I pointed out that I buy eggs from a farm for less and the price hasn't changed that much.
Posted by: NR Pax
Point out Biden claimed for four years there was no inflation.
Liberal friend was being snarky about that. I pointed out that I buy eggs from a farm for less and the price hasn't changed that much.
Posted by: NR Pax
Point out Biden claimed for four years there was no inflation.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 07, 2025 12:44 PM (fUDLX)
Posted by: ... at February 07, 2025 12:44 PM (Ja2Pp)
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Ashley Judd's puffy scamper shuts down USAID grants. Masterbating Pete is lead doge programmer.
Posted by: CNN s Chryon Nightmare at February 07, 2025 12:45 PM (DFTk8)
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Yeah, poor Lump, abandoned by the missus when he was almost retarded. Now that he's Fetterman the White or whatever, she needs her man again.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at February 07, 2025 12:45 PM (44PAK)
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314 What about the price of eggs, hmm?
Liberal friend was being snarky about that. I pointed out that I buy eggs from a farm for less and the price hasn't changed that much.
Posted by: NR Pax
Point out Biden claimed for four years there was no inflation.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 07, 2025 12:44 PM (fUDLX)
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"I believed Biden when he said there was no inflation. I voted for Trump because I just wanted to make you cry."
Liberal friend was being snarky about that. I pointed out that I buy eggs from a farm for less and the price hasn't changed that much.
Posted by: NR Pax
Point out Biden claimed for four years there was no inflation.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 07, 2025 12:44 PM (fUDLX)
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"I believed Biden when he said there was no inflation. I voted for Trump because I just wanted to make you cry."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:45 PM (GBKbO)
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I think they are wrong. I've read JFK established this by executive order.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 07, 2025 12:45 PM (EV2jz)
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Point out Biden claimed for four years there was no inflation.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 07, 2025 12:44 PM (fUDLX)
"You are so full of shit" works much better on the average lib
Posted by: rickb223 at February 07, 2025 12:44 PM (fUDLX)
"You are so full of shit" works much better on the average lib
Posted by: ... at February 07, 2025 12:45 PM (Ja2Pp)
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Had an African girl who worked for me, a while back… 100% African… solid Boer stock…
Posted by: tubal at February 07, 2025 12:33 PM (PCK5/)
I worked with a lady from West Africa who had the most wonderful smile. I used to try to get her to smile because it would light up the entire neighborhood.
Posted by: tubal at February 07, 2025 12:33 PM (PCK5/)
I worked with a lady from West Africa who had the most wonderful smile. I used to try to get her to smile because it would light up the entire neighborhood.
Posted by: Kindltot at February 07, 2025 12:45 PM (D7oie)
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I'll take the removal of those people who threaten the country and its citizens any day over losing some ability to fight crime and terrorism. The people who threaten the country are a much bigger threat.
I can always repopulate the agency with people who understand their role but are also good at police work.
Posted by: Archimedes
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Defunding AID may have a lot more to do with reducing terrorism abroad and in the US than Feeb agents.
I can always repopulate the agency with people who understand their role but are also good at police work.
Posted by: Archimedes
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Defunding AID may have a lot more to do with reducing terrorism abroad and in the US than Feeb agents.
Posted by: whig at February 07, 2025 12:46 PM (ctrM5)
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Union sees their dues shriveling up so got to protect their cushy phony jobs.
We were in the pool!
We were in the pool!
Posted by: The Union at February 07, 2025 12:46 PM (xCA6C)
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Anybody else remember that African leader that begged the US to stop sending aid because it was screwing up Africa? I remember.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at February 07, 2025 12:46 PM (2Insx)
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Climate hysteria is one of the biggest ones, of course. "Palestinians" are also high on the list. Domestically, it's illegal aliens, domestic poverty, homelessness, drugs, trains to nowhere, etc.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at February 07, 2025 12:23 PM (iFTx/)
I've had some clients involved in the homeless industrial complex in NYC.
Holy shit is that industry breathtaking.
If we solved homelessness, it would end this entire industry. We will never solve it.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 07, 2025 12:34 PM (uCjyK)
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I did pro bono work for a major anti-homeless non-profit that must remain nameless. My experience was similar.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at February 07, 2025 12:23 PM (iFTx/)
I've had some clients involved in the homeless industrial complex in NYC.
Holy shit is that industry breathtaking.
If we solved homelessness, it would end this entire industry. We will never solve it.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 07, 2025 12:34 PM (uCjyK)
________
I did pro bono work for a major anti-homeless non-profit that must remain nameless. My experience was similar.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at February 07, 2025 12:46 PM (iFTx/)
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"why the hell couldn't the fda just review the existing eu test AND follow on case data to make a decision rather than force the company to go through a very expensive test to prove what was already known...?
Posted by: Sturmtoddler at February 07, 2025 12:40 PM (nXhwP)"
The EMA isn't any more competent than the FDA, though. They're both straight clownshoes. The existing EU tests are worthless.
They're pushing the angle that the jabs are safe despite WILD levels of contamination and undisclosed sequences that are known 100% to cause cancer, etc, and the people who invented the assays the FDA/EMA are using are screaming their heads off that they're being used wrong and the regulators are grossly incompetent.
Posted by: Sturmtoddler at February 07, 2025 12:40 PM (nXhwP)"
The EMA isn't any more competent than the FDA, though. They're both straight clownshoes. The existing EU tests are worthless.
They're pushing the angle that the jabs are safe despite WILD levels of contamination and undisclosed sequences that are known 100% to cause cancer, etc, and the people who invented the assays the FDA/EMA are using are screaming their heads off that they're being used wrong and the regulators are grossly incompetent.
Posted by: heya at February 07, 2025 12:46 PM (nH+RN)
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As a long term recreational drug user, might I remind everyone that something over one third of all adults, which includes many voters, are on daily dosages of one or more psychoactive drugs.
This has to have some effect on their rationality.
Personnally, I've always felt somewhat superior morally, as I evaluate and choose every time I consider dosing myself with something.
Right now kinda thinking mushrooms.
This has to have some effect on their rationality.
Personnally, I've always felt somewhat superior morally, as I evaluate and choose every time I consider dosing myself with something.
Right now kinda thinking mushrooms.
Posted by: From about That Time at February 07, 2025 12:46 PM (4780s)
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297 292 What's the read here on Trump's announcement to take over land in Gaza? I'm really hoping this is a bargaining chip and nothing more. I really don't want us physically in the middle of this conflict. I especially don't want future Dem presidencies "managing" that land. They will absolutely hide Hamas terrorists and their equipment as close to Israel as they can and any attempts by Israel to intervene will be called an act of war against the US.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2025 12:42 PM (Odg76)
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Trump says something big and outrageous: WAY TOO MANY people take it seriously like he has a plan to implement it today.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:43 PM (GBKbO)
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Personally I think it is a great idea.
Chop the Palis into half a dozen groups, send them to different countries and take the next few years and scrape Gaza flat and rebuild. If the regional countries don't like it, PDT can dust his hands off and walk away. If thy do, together they can create a International Economic Zone.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2025 12:42 PM (Odg76)
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Trump says something big and outrageous: WAY TOO MANY people take it seriously like he has a plan to implement it today.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:43 PM (GBKbO)
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Personally I think it is a great idea.
Chop the Palis into half a dozen groups, send them to different countries and take the next few years and scrape Gaza flat and rebuild. If the regional countries don't like it, PDT can dust his hands off and walk away. If thy do, together they can create a International Economic Zone.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 07, 2025 12:46 PM (W/lyH)
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It's a flip on the meme about the "river to the sea" which got rid of all jews from israel
Posted by: SMOD at February 07, 2025 12:44 PM (RHGPo)
Oh fuck yeah, well observed. Trump is a genius.
Posted by: SMOD at February 07, 2025 12:44 PM (RHGPo)
Oh fuck yeah, well observed. Trump is a genius.
Posted by: ... at February 07, 2025 12:46 PM (Ja2Pp)
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Can we deport them both now???
https://x.com/Kristine_Froeba
/status
/1887281022896689338
"HRH Prince Harry pocketing American worker tax dollars through USAID. Didn't we start a Revolution over this? ... "
https://x.com/Kristine_Froeba
/status
/1887281022896689338
"HRH Prince Harry pocketing American worker tax dollars through USAID. Didn't we start a Revolution over this? ... "
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 07, 2025 12:46 PM (Vqx30)
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It's not the waste that should have our blood boiling here. It's that the conspiracy is being laid bare in a way it hasn't been in probably 50 years.
We need to hammer that in. Somehow.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 07, 2025 12:41 PM (uCjyK)
I genuinely believe we're getting there. We just had to get the attention of the straights: You're funding gay shit overseas.
Once you have their attention, now... this is ALSO what you're funding.
We need to hammer that in. Somehow.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 07, 2025 12:41 PM (uCjyK)
I genuinely believe we're getting there. We just had to get the attention of the straights: You're funding gay shit overseas.
Once you have their attention, now... this is ALSO what you're funding.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 07, 2025 12:47 PM (7bmh6)
Posted by: pawn at February 07, 2025 12:47 PM (QB+5g)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at February 07, 2025 12:47 PM (L/fGl)
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. I used to try to get her to smile . . . .
Posted by: Kindltot
The Paolo, he never worries about this.
Posted by: Kindltot
The Paolo, he never worries about this.
Posted by: The Paolo at February 07, 2025 12:47 PM (WXNFJ)
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Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
House Judiciary Committee member Tom Tiffany says that Democrats have delayed Kash Patel's confirmation in hopes of staging a last-minute, Kavanaugh-style smear campaign.
Dear Democrats, it won't work.
https://tinyurl.com/5xazj2t2
@charliekirk11
House Judiciary Committee member Tom Tiffany says that Democrats have delayed Kash Patel's confirmation in hopes of staging a last-minute, Kavanaugh-style smear campaign.
Dear Democrats, it won't work.
https://tinyurl.com/5xazj2t2
Posted by: redridinghood at February 07, 2025 12:47 PM (NpAcC)
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A lot of these idiots should remember PATCO.
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 07, 2025 12:47 PM (azCAX)
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When did they break up?
Posted by: Piper
There was speculation that they had done so awhile back, since she wasn't seen with him much in public.
Posted by: Bulg at February 07, 2025 12:40 PM (77rzZ)
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She was hiking the Appalachian Trail
Posted by: Elric The Blade
That was Bigfoot.
Posted by: Piper
There was speculation that they had done so awhile back, since she wasn't seen with him much in public.
Posted by: Bulg at February 07, 2025 12:40 PM (77rzZ)
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She was hiking the Appalachian Trail
Posted by: Elric The Blade
That was Bigfoot.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 07, 2025 12:47 PM (fUDLX)
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I think they are wrong. I've read JFK established this by executive order.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 07, 2025 12:45 PM
He (JFK) did, it was created through EO. I posted about it up top. Not to mention, he is technically not ending it, as there will still be like 300 people left.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 07, 2025 12:45 PM
He (JFK) did, it was created through EO. I posted about it up top. Not to mention, he is technically not ending it, as there will still be like 300 people left.
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 07, 2025 12:48 PM (ewjUl)
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Didn't the idiot dump Petey when he got caught banging his coworker? Was she still married to crooked Pete?
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 07, 2025 12:44 PM (ewjUl)
The - how do you say? - worst thing in life is being with a crooked Peter. Fortunately, I have not that problem.
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 07, 2025 12:44 PM (ewjUl)
The - how do you say? - worst thing in life is being with a crooked Peter. Fortunately, I have not that problem.
Posted by: The Paolo at February 07, 2025 12:48 PM (0eaVi)
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Mrs Fetterman is really unfortunate looking…
Posted by: tubal at February 07, 2025 12:48 PM (PCK5/)
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I can't wait for the DOGE to go through Medicare/Medicaid. The amount of fraud will be staggering.
Posted by: Frank Barone
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I would not be surprised to see illegitimate spending by those agencies on the order of half a trillion dollars in current dollars. Aka 500 billion going back for years. If we apply 2010 as the starting date. That alone might be as much as 7 trillion dollars of our current national debt not counting compounded interest.
I can't wait for the DOGE to go through Medicare/Medicaid. The amount of fraud will be staggering.
Posted by: Frank Barone
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I would not be surprised to see illegitimate spending by those agencies on the order of half a trillion dollars in current dollars. Aka 500 billion going back for years. If we apply 2010 as the starting date. That alone might be as much as 7 trillion dollars of our current national debt not counting compounded interest.
Posted by: whig at February 07, 2025 12:48 PM (ctrM5)
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> Trump says something big and outrageous: WAY TOO MANY people take it seriously like he has a plan to implement it today.
This wasn't an offhand remark in a long speech. Trump made the announcement with Netanyahu at his side during an official presser called for that announcement.
You'll also notice I suggested it may just be a bargaining chip. It may also just be something for the left to go nuts over while he does what he actually wants in the background. I don't know. I'm asking what the horde thinks.
This wasn't an offhand remark in a long speech. Trump made the announcement with Netanyahu at his side during an official presser called for that announcement.
You'll also notice I suggested it may just be a bargaining chip. It may also just be something for the left to go nuts over while he does what he actually wants in the background. I don't know. I'm asking what the horde thinks.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2025 12:48 PM (Odg76)
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330 Can we deport them both now???
https://x.com/Kristine_Froeba
/status
/1887281022896689338
"HRH Prince Harry pocketing American worker tax dollars through USAID. Didn't we start a Revolution over this? ... "
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 07, 2025 12:46 PM (Vqx30)
I figured he was...only I thought they'd wash it through his wife...
https://x.com/Kristine_Froeba
/status
/1887281022896689338
"HRH Prince Harry pocketing American worker tax dollars through USAID. Didn't we start a Revolution over this? ... "
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 07, 2025 12:46 PM (Vqx30)
I figured he was...only I thought they'd wash it through his wife...
Posted by: Nova Local at February 07, 2025 12:49 PM (exHjb)
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340 Mrs Fetterman is really unfortunate looking…
Posted by: tubal at February 07, 2025 12:48 PM (PCK5/)
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Well, so is Mr. Fetterman.
Posted by: tubal at February 07, 2025 12:48 PM (PCK5/)
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Well, so is Mr. Fetterman.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:49 PM (GBKbO)
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Bill Gates wants you dead. Whatever other motivations he has for doing whatever it is he does, he wants you dead.
You, and 90% of the rest of the human population.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 07, 2025 12:37 PM (7bmh6)
Yep. And only wants to enslave the rest, so it's all very noble.
Actually as a plan it sounds a lot like the one from some other people I know.....
You, and 90% of the rest of the human population.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 07, 2025 12:37 PM (7bmh6)
Yep. And only wants to enslave the rest, so it's all very noble.
Actually as a plan it sounds a lot like the one from some other people I know.....
Posted by: ... at February 07, 2025 12:49 PM (Ja2Pp)
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344 340 Mrs Fetterman is really unfortunate looking…
Posted by: tubal at February 07, 2025 12:48 PM (PCK5/)
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Well, so is Mr. Fetterman.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:49 PM (GBKbO
They met under a bridge, as I understand it…
Posted by: tubal at February 07, 2025 12:48 PM (PCK5/)
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Well, so is Mr. Fetterman.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:49 PM (GBKbO
They met under a bridge, as I understand it…
Posted by: tubal at February 07, 2025 12:49 PM (PCK5/)
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344 340 Mrs Fetterman is really unfortunate looking…
Posted by: tubal at February 07, 2025 12:48 PM (PCK5/)
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Well, so is Mr. Fetterman.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:49 PM (GBKbO)
Mr. and Mrs Frankenstein...
Posted by: tubal at February 07, 2025 12:48 PM (PCK5/)
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Well, so is Mr. Fetterman.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:49 PM (GBKbO)
Mr. and Mrs Frankenstein...
Posted by: It's me donna at February 07, 2025 12:49 PM (VE6XX)
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Need to take the entire thing to the supreme court: is it even constitutional to have an agency that hands out tax dollars?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 07, 2025 12:50 PM (2VST1)
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310
I can't wait for the DOGE to go through Medicare/Medicaid. The amount of fraud will be staggering.
In a bombshell revelation that could shake the foundations of American healthcare, Elon Musk, leading the charge under President Trump’s newly minted Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), has uncovered what he describes as a staggering “$100B of taxpayer money” wasted by the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS).
I can't wait for the DOGE to go through Medicare/Medicaid. The amount of fraud will be staggering.
In a bombshell revelation that could shake the foundations of American healthcare, Elon Musk, leading the charge under President Trump’s newly minted Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), has uncovered what he describes as a staggering “$100B of taxpayer money” wasted by the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS).
Posted by: SMOD at February 07, 2025 12:50 PM (RHGPo)
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the procedure and enzyme had been in use in europe for over 10 years. why the hell couldn't the fda just review the existing eu test AND follow on case data to make a decision rather than force the company to go through a very expensive test to prove what was already known...?
Posted by: Sturmtoddler at February 07, 2025 12:40 PM (nXhwP)
The FDA exists to perpetuate itself and to give pharma companies the ability to say their products are “safe and regulated”. There are tons of drugs that work great and are sold internationally, but the time and cost of getting through the FDA is prohibitive to bringing them here.
Then those costs get passed onto consumers, both directly (somebody has to pay for that $150 Phase III trial) and indirectly (EpiPens now cost 100x as much because the FDA has made competing against them impossible.)
Posted by: Sturmtoddler at February 07, 2025 12:40 PM (nXhwP)
The FDA exists to perpetuate itself and to give pharma companies the ability to say their products are “safe and regulated”. There are tons of drugs that work great and are sold internationally, but the time and cost of getting through the FDA is prohibitive to bringing them here.
Then those costs get passed onto consumers, both directly (somebody has to pay for that $150 Phase III trial) and indirectly (EpiPens now cost 100x as much because the FDA has made competing against them impossible.)
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 07, 2025 12:50 PM (l3YAf)
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Screw cutting with the sword. Cut with Ace's HAMMER!!
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at February 07, 2025 12:50 PM (17s+e)
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What's the read here on Trump's announcement to take over land in Gaza? I'm really hoping this is a bargaining chip and nothing more. I really don't want us physically in the middle of this conflict. I especially don't want future Dem presidencies "managing" that land. They will absolutely hide Hamas terrorists and their equipment as close to Israel as they can and any attempts by Israel to intervene will be called an act of war against the US.
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You've missed the part where the current population of Gaza is relocated *before* we do anything there.
The only people that would be there in the long term are the folks supporting the resort he's envisioning, which he expects to number in the mere thousands.
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You've missed the part where the current population of Gaza is relocated *before* we do anything there.
The only people that would be there in the long term are the folks supporting the resort he's envisioning, which he expects to number in the mere thousands.
Posted by: Methos at February 07, 2025 12:50 PM (Dnobf)
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You'll also notice I suggested it may just be a bargaining chip. It may also just be something for the left to go nuts over while he does what he actually wants in the background. I don't know. I'm asking what the horde thinks.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2025 12:48 PM
I think it's a chess move. I am not sure of his plan, but it's not what he announced with Bibi.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2025 12:48 PM
I think it's a chess move. I am not sure of his plan, but it's not what he announced with Bibi.
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 07, 2025 12:50 PM (ewjUl)
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Trump's a real estate guy. I'm picturing Trump Hovels for the strip. The most luxurious hovels the Middle East has seen since the Ottoman Empire.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at February 07, 2025 12:50 PM (44PAK)
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342 > Trump says something big and outrageous: WAY TOO MANY people take it seriously like he has a plan to implement it today.
This wasn't an offhand remark in a long speech. Trump made the announcement with Netanyahu at his side during an official presser called for that announcement.
You'll also notice I suggested it may just be a bargaining chip. It may also just be something for the left to go nuts over while he does what he actually wants in the background. I don't know. I'm asking what the horde thinks.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2025 12:48 PM (Odg76)
Obviously, he'd do it with Israel there...one of those "don't make me do this, b/c you know I have Israel's back, not yours"...it was genius...and it got folks looking one way while Elon continues his fed gov assault...media always needs something to doompost Trump about...
This wasn't an offhand remark in a long speech. Trump made the announcement with Netanyahu at his side during an official presser called for that announcement.
You'll also notice I suggested it may just be a bargaining chip. It may also just be something for the left to go nuts over while he does what he actually wants in the background. I don't know. I'm asking what the horde thinks.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2025 12:48 PM (Odg76)
Obviously, he'd do it with Israel there...one of those "don't make me do this, b/c you know I have Israel's back, not yours"...it was genius...and it got folks looking one way while Elon continues his fed gov assault...media always needs something to doompost Trump about...
Posted by: Nova Local at February 07, 2025 12:51 PM (exHjb)
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LB
@beyondreasdoubt
Sure, sex is great, but have you seen Sec. Duffy obliterate Hillary?!!!
Secretary Sean Duffy
@SecDuffy
23h
I know you’re lashing out because DOGE is uncovering your family’s obscene grifting via USAID, but I won’t let you lie and distort facts. The FAA administrator announced he resigned over a month before Trump took office, and the air traffic controllers were always exempt from Trump’s civil service buyouts.
The previous administration shamelessly used USDOT as a slush fund for the Green New Scam, throwing away money and resources on wasteful environmental and social justice projects rather than updating our nation’s antiquated air traffic control systems and other critical infrastructure.
I’m returning this department to its mission of safety by using innovative technology in transportation and infrastructure. Your team had its chance and failed. We’re moving on without you because the American people want us to make America’s transportation system great again. And yes, we’re bringing the 22-year-olds with us.
@beyondreasdoubt
Sure, sex is great, but have you seen Sec. Duffy obliterate Hillary?!!!
Secretary Sean Duffy
@SecDuffy
23h
I know you’re lashing out because DOGE is uncovering your family’s obscene grifting via USAID, but I won’t let you lie and distort facts. The FAA administrator announced he resigned over a month before Trump took office, and the air traffic controllers were always exempt from Trump’s civil service buyouts.
The previous administration shamelessly used USDOT as a slush fund for the Green New Scam, throwing away money and resources on wasteful environmental and social justice projects rather than updating our nation’s antiquated air traffic control systems and other critical infrastructure.
I’m returning this department to its mission of safety by using innovative technology in transportation and infrastructure. Your team had its chance and failed. We’re moving on without you because the American people want us to make America’s transportation system great again. And yes, we’re bringing the 22-year-olds with us.
Posted by: m at February 07, 2025 12:51 PM (v0TzN)
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"HRH Prince Harry pocketing American worker tax dollars through USAID. Didn't we start a Revolution over this? ... "
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
And again I note the banality of the bafflegab terms these entities use to name themselves.
"HRH Prince Harry pocketing American worker tax dollars through USAID. Didn't we start a Revolution over this? ... "
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
And again I note the banality of the bafflegab terms these entities use to name themselves.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 07, 2025 12:51 PM (xG4kz)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at February 07, 2025 12:51 PM (L/fGl)
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These credentialed do-gooders wield the threat of African deaths as a shield against any question of their privileges.
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Where have you gone Miss Sally Struthers
A nation turns its bankrupt eyes to you ... woo hoo hoo.
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Where have you gone Miss Sally Struthers
A nation turns its bankrupt eyes to you ... woo hoo hoo.
Posted by: ShainS -- Behold the Initiation of Trump's 'Operation Crossfire Boomerang' at February 07, 2025 12:51 PM (QOEHB)
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It's like trying to put out a fire with a bucket full of holes.
By the time the bucket of water gets to the fire, most of the water has leaked out.
But they still have to hold a press conference to show they are fighting the fires. (and to hide the "water/money" they have pocketed)
By the time the bucket of water gets to the fire, most of the water has leaked out.
But they still have to hold a press conference to show they are fighting the fires. (and to hide the "water/money" they have pocketed)
Posted by: illiniwek at February 07, 2025 12:51 PM (Cus5s)
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330 Can we deport them both now???
https://x.com/Kristine_Froeba
/status
/1887281022896689338
"HRH Prince Harry pocketing American worker tax dollars through USAID. Didn't we start a Revolution over this? ... "
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
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Well, federal judge just ordered Harry's visa application to be released. Turns out US law forbids people using drugs and lying about it from entering the US and Harry admitted to such in his own book. Deportation from the US and a bar on reentry is the penalty for that.
We can take him to the Canadian border and make him walk across it at gunpoint.
https://x.com/Kristine_Froeba
/status
/1887281022896689338
"HRH Prince Harry pocketing American worker tax dollars through USAID. Didn't we start a Revolution over this? ... "
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
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Well, federal judge just ordered Harry's visa application to be released. Turns out US law forbids people using drugs and lying about it from entering the US and Harry admitted to such in his own book. Deportation from the US and a bar on reentry is the penalty for that.
We can take him to the Canadian border and make him walk across it at gunpoint.
Posted by: whig at February 07, 2025 12:51 PM (ctrM5)
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On the not-breathtaking corruption side of things, I'd like to point out that I don't want to hear anyone in DC ever say we can't afford anything ever again.
Fuck it, I think we should forgive student loans.
Why am I paying a monthly vig to the government right now when they have no problem giving themselves and their allies billions of dollars in my tax money?
Also, let's not forget the fucking cruise ship industry bail out or the PPP loans.
Fuck it, I think we should forgive student loans.
Why am I paying a monthly vig to the government right now when they have no problem giving themselves and their allies billions of dollars in my tax money?
Also, let's not forget the fucking cruise ship industry bail out or the PPP loans.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 07, 2025 12:52 PM (uCjyK)
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Nah. They actually do useful work for general health that requires specialized knowledge in medicine. biochemistry, and engineering.
Have you worked with the FDA? Pharma companies? I have.
They’re mostly full of it.
>> That being said, the crew that handled the COVID "vaccine" absolutely did not do their job at any level and need to be the first out the door on their asses.
The covid vaccines were only an anomaly in that they didn’t take a decade and $150 million to get approved. They received just as much care and attention as any other FDA-regulated product.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 07, 2025 12:43 PM (l3YAf)
Yeah, my sis was a medicinal chemist, who had to get several drugs through the FDA.
She thought they did a good job overall. Even when they denied authorization of a drug.
Also, I've known people who worked in the FDA. They all seemed conscientious and hard workers.
I suspect most of the FDA's problems begin and end with the higher ups.
I suppose their authorization process could be faster, which seems to be your complaint, but that's not where the incentive lies. Releasing a bad drug or vaccine is bad and possibly career ending.
Have you worked with the FDA? Pharma companies? I have.
They’re mostly full of it.
>> That being said, the crew that handled the COVID "vaccine" absolutely did not do their job at any level and need to be the first out the door on their asses.
The covid vaccines were only an anomaly in that they didn’t take a decade and $150 million to get approved. They received just as much care and attention as any other FDA-regulated product.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 07, 2025 12:43 PM (l3YAf)
Yeah, my sis was a medicinal chemist, who had to get several drugs through the FDA.
She thought they did a good job overall. Even when they denied authorization of a drug.
Also, I've known people who worked in the FDA. They all seemed conscientious and hard workers.
I suspect most of the FDA's problems begin and end with the higher ups.
I suppose their authorization process could be faster, which seems to be your complaint, but that's not where the incentive lies. Releasing a bad drug or vaccine is bad and possibly career ending.
Posted by: naturalfake at February 07, 2025 12:52 PM (iJfKG)
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Constitution of the United States, Article II, Section 1
The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.
The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.
Posted by: SMOD at February 07, 2025 12:52 PM (RHGPo)
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So, did Fetterman and his wife get back together? I understand she was with him at Mar-A-Lago.
A true tale of love, like Bill and Hillary, or Obama and Mike.
A true tale of love, like Bill and Hillary, or Obama and Mike.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at February 07, 2025 12:52 PM (PGQzS)
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What cracks me up is that the lawsuit claims that there are foreign humanitarian crises appearing because USAID has not been around for two days LOL
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 07, 2025 12:52 PM (2VST1)
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364 Constitution of the United States, Article II, Section 1
The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.
Posted by: SMOD at February 07, 2025 12:52 PM (RHGPo)
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"This is unconstitutional, overridden by my desire for an unelected bureaucracy."
-Hawaiian judge
The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.
Posted by: SMOD at February 07, 2025 12:52 PM (RHGPo)
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"This is unconstitutional, overridden by my desire for an unelected bureaucracy."
-Hawaiian judge
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:53 PM (GBKbO)
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@342
>>You'll also notice I suggested it may just be a bargaining chip.
Without some paradigm shift in thinking about what to do about the palastinian problem, there really is only one outcome, which is the same outcome that has persisted for the last 60 years.
Will this be enough to get the rest of the ME nations to get serious or will it just be the usual.
Only time will tell.
>>You'll also notice I suggested it may just be a bargaining chip.
Without some paradigm shift in thinking about what to do about the palastinian problem, there really is only one outcome, which is the same outcome that has persisted for the last 60 years.
Will this be enough to get the rest of the ME nations to get serious or will it just be the usual.
Only time will tell.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 07, 2025 12:54 PM (XV/Pl)
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You've missed the part where the current population of Gaza is relocated *before* we do anything there.
The only people that would be there in the long term are the folks supporting the resort he's envisioning, which he expects to number in the mere thousands.
Posted by: Methos at February 07, 2025 12:50 PM (Dnobf)
I'm pretty sure the whole thing has been walked back.
They're now talking about wanting to help with the rebuild... and NO American troops.
The only people that would be there in the long term are the folks supporting the resort he's envisioning, which he expects to number in the mere thousands.
Posted by: Methos at February 07, 2025 12:50 PM (Dnobf)
I'm pretty sure the whole thing has been walked back.
They're now talking about wanting to help with the rebuild... and NO American troops.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 07, 2025 12:54 PM (7bmh6)
Posted by: ... at February 07, 2025 12:54 PM (Ja2Pp)
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B/c European scientists are even more corrupt than our US government ones are? I mean, they want things cheap and not necessarily curative when it's single payer government care...
Posted by: Nova Local at February 07, 2025 12:44 PM (exHjb)
oh i don't disagree with the above at all, but as i said, it had ALSO been in use for 10 years, so it wasn't like the covid "vax" or something. I just find it odd that the fda insists on lengthy trials when there's substantial use history available if someone spent a couple weeks compiling it.
i think it's just another step in the corruption and grift racket.
Posted by: Nova Local at February 07, 2025 12:44 PM (exHjb)
oh i don't disagree with the above at all, but as i said, it had ALSO been in use for 10 years, so it wasn't like the covid "vax" or something. I just find it odd that the fda insists on lengthy trials when there's substantial use history available if someone spent a couple weeks compiling it.
i think it's just another step in the corruption and grift racket.
Posted by: Sturmtoddler at February 07, 2025 12:54 PM (nXhwP)
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244 Trump is the Worst Hitler Evah!
Posted by: ShainS
Exactly! I voted for Death Camps!!! Where are they?!?!
Posted by: ShainS
Exactly! I voted for Death Camps!!! Where are they?!?!
Posted by: No One Ever at February 07, 2025 12:54 PM (PGQzS)
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Thought a village in Ethiopia was fed by Ms. Struthers?
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 07, 2025 12:54 PM (azCAX)
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365 So, did Fetterman and his wife get back together? I understand she was with him at Mar-A-Lago.
A true tale of love, like Bill and Hillary, or Obama and Mike.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at February 07, 2025 12:52 PM (PGQzS)
Fettermonster and Bride of Fettermonster.
A true tale of love, like Bill and Hillary, or Obama and Mike.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at February 07, 2025 12:52 PM (PGQzS)
Fettermonster and Bride of Fettermonster.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at February 07, 2025 12:54 PM (44PAK)
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311 > When did they break up?
After Fetterman publicly defended Israel she left the country. They were apart for a long time.
Posted by: bonhomme at
I completely missed this scandal!
After Fetterman publicly defended Israel she left the country. They were apart for a long time.
Posted by: bonhomme at
I completely missed this scandal!
Posted by: Piper at February 07, 2025 12:54 PM (pZEOD)
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I suspect most of the FDA's problems begin and end with the higher ups.
That is usually true for government outfits staffed with legitimate high-skills people.
That is usually true for government outfits staffed with legitimate high-skills people.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 07, 2025 12:54 PM (xCA6C)
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In their lawsuit, the unions claim the shutdown has created a "global humanitarian crisis" disruption to looting-marxism continuum.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at February 07, 2025 12:54 PM (Q8Bj8)
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369 You've missed the part where the current population of Gaza is relocated *before* we do anything there.
The only people that would be there in the long term are the folks supporting the resort he's envisioning, which he expects to number in the mere thousands.
Posted by: Methos at February 07, 2025 12:50 PM (Dnobf)
I'm pretty sure the whole thing has been walked back.
They're now talking about wanting to help with the rebuild... and NO American troops.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 07, 2025 12:54 PM (7bmh6)
Awww, I was hoping for salting the earth…..
The only people that would be there in the long term are the folks supporting the resort he's envisioning, which he expects to number in the mere thousands.
Posted by: Methos at February 07, 2025 12:50 PM (Dnobf)
I'm pretty sure the whole thing has been walked back.
They're now talking about wanting to help with the rebuild... and NO American troops.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 07, 2025 12:54 PM (7bmh6)
Awww, I was hoping for salting the earth…..
Posted by: tubal at February 07, 2025 12:55 PM (PCK5/)
379
I don't know. I'm asking what the horde thinks.
Posted by: bonhomme
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We will find out when we find out but it effectively thwarts the revival of the obnoxious two states idiocy and causes Ham Ass, Egypt, Jordan, and the PLA to go into decision paralysis over what it means.
Posted by: bonhomme
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We will find out when we find out but it effectively thwarts the revival of the obnoxious two states idiocy and causes Ham Ass, Egypt, Jordan, and the PLA to go into decision paralysis over what it means.
Posted by: whig at February 07, 2025 12:55 PM (ctrM5)
380
So, did Fetterman and his wife get back together? I understand she was with him at Mar-A-Lago.
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A true tale of love, like Bill and Hillary, or Obama and Mike.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at February 07, 2025 12:52 PM (PGQzS)
Funny how all these power couples don't seem to last past their usefulness.
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A true tale of love, like Bill and Hillary, or Obama and Mike.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at February 07, 2025 12:52 PM (PGQzS)
Funny how all these power couples don't seem to last past their usefulness.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 07, 2025 12:55 PM (7bmh6)
381
They're now talking about wanting to help with the rebuild... and NO American troops.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 07, 2025 12:54 PM (7bmh6)
Yes, but he still wants the Pali's out
They're now talking about wanting to help with the rebuild... and NO American troops.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 07, 2025 12:54 PM (7bmh6)
Yes, but he still wants the Pali's out
Posted by: It's me donna at February 07, 2025 12:55 PM (VE6XX)
382
370 If USAID was so freaking important how come nobody knew about it?
Reminds me of the biolabs.
Posted by: ... at February 07, 2025 12:54 PM (Ja2Pp)
Everyone in DC not only knew about it (and similar slush funds), they were on the take and laughing all the way to the bank.
Reminds me of the biolabs.
Posted by: ... at February 07, 2025 12:54 PM (Ja2Pp)
Everyone in DC not only knew about it (and similar slush funds), they were on the take and laughing all the way to the bank.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 07, 2025 12:55 PM (uCjyK)
383
Ban the unions, which were allowed through Kennedy's executive-order in the first place. Anyone still "striking" gets fired. Anyone sabotaging the Executive gets hit with RICO.
Posted by: gKWVE at February 07, 2025 12:55 PM (gKWVE)
384
You've missed the part where the current population of Gaza is relocated *before* we do anything there.
The only people that would be there in the long term are the folks supporting the resort he's envisioning, which he expects to number in the mere thousands.
Posted by: Methos at February 07, 2025 12:50 PM
Former USAID workers with shovels and brooms! You want a job helping all those foreigners? Well here's a great opportunity! The plane leaves at 10 a.m. next tuesday!
The only people that would be there in the long term are the folks supporting the resort he's envisioning, which he expects to number in the mere thousands.
Posted by: Methos at February 07, 2025 12:50 PM
Former USAID workers with shovels and brooms! You want a job helping all those foreigners? Well here's a great opportunity! The plane leaves at 10 a.m. next tuesday!
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 07, 2025 12:55 PM (ewjUl)
385
Evidently a hawaiian judge has ruled that DOGE is illegal and claims to have shut it down. My guess is that absolutely nothing has stopped in the office, nor should it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 07, 2025 12:56 PM (2VST1)
386
Why are Non-GOVERNMENTAL Organizations receiving funding from the Federal government in the first place? It gives lie to very idea of NGOs. He who controls your money controls you.
Posted by: Farquad at February 07, 2025 12:56 PM (CFMhl)
387
344 340 Mrs Fetterman is really unfortunate looking…
Posted by: tubal at February 07, 2025 12:48 PM (PCK5/)
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Well, so is Mr. Fetterman.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:49 PM (GBKbO)
Well he must have a large schwanstucker yah?
Posted by: tubal at February 07, 2025 12:48 PM (PCK5/)
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Well, so is Mr. Fetterman.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:49 PM (GBKbO)
Well he must have a large schwanstucker yah?
Posted by: Inga in the Lab at February 07, 2025 12:56 PM (TTAGa)
388
The Solicitor General of the US will be a very busy office for the foreseeable future.
Posted by: mrp at February 07, 2025 12:56 PM (rj6Yv)
389
They're now talking about wanting to help with the rebuild... and NO American troops.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 07, 2025 12:54 PM (7bmh6)
Awww, I was hoping for salting the earth…..
Posted by: tubal at February 07, 2025 12:55 PM (PCK5/)
I'd settle for bugging out completely, leaving the whole situation for the people there now to fix. Without U.S. aid.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 07, 2025 12:54 PM (7bmh6)
Awww, I was hoping for salting the earth…..
Posted by: tubal at February 07, 2025 12:55 PM (PCK5/)
I'd settle for bugging out completely, leaving the whole situation for the people there now to fix. Without U.S. aid.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 07, 2025 12:56 PM (7bmh6)
390
385 Evidently a hawaiian judge has ruled that DOGE is illegal and claims to have shut it down. My guess is that absolutely nothing has stopped in the office, nor should it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 07, 2025 12:56 PM (2VST1)
Some black robe needs to be pissed on, looks like…
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 07, 2025 12:56 PM (2VST1)
Some black robe needs to be pissed on, looks like…
Posted by: tubal at February 07, 2025 12:57 PM (PCK5/)
391
oh i don't disagree with the above at all, but as i said, it had ALSO been in use for 10 years, so it wasn't like the covid "vax" or something. I just find it odd that the fda insists on lengthy trials when there's substantial use history available if someone spent a couple weeks compiling it.
i think it's just another step in the corruption and grift racket.
Posted by: Sturmtoddler
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Not invented here syndrome and a cheap product competing with expensive Big pharma products is my guess. Big revolving door between HHS/FDA and industry.
i think it's just another step in the corruption and grift racket.
Posted by: Sturmtoddler
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Not invented here syndrome and a cheap product competing with expensive Big pharma products is my guess. Big revolving door between HHS/FDA and industry.
Posted by: whig at February 07, 2025 12:57 PM (ctrM5)
392
The libs are down to bragging that they are free to protest and there are no Brownshirts beating their asses in the streets. They see this as a Big Win.
Posted by: ... at February 07, 2025 12:57 PM (Ja2Pp)
393
I suspect most of the FDA's problems begin and end with the higher ups.
I suppose their authorization process could be faster, which seems to be your complaint, but that's not where the incentive lies. Releasing a bad drug or vaccine is bad and possibly career ending.
Posted by: naturalfake at February 07, 2025 12:52 PM (iJfKG)
It’s the entire org. The higher ups are revolving-door with the industries they supposed to regulate.
The frontline workers are dead-eyed bureaucrats who slow everything down and stifle innovation, but will also approve drugs and devices that kill people so long as the paperwork is filed and the fees are paid.
Most clinical trials are a joke. Post-market surveillance is virtually non-existent, as the FDA itself so readily admits.
I suppose their authorization process could be faster, which seems to be your complaint, but that's not where the incentive lies. Releasing a bad drug or vaccine is bad and possibly career ending.
Posted by: naturalfake at February 07, 2025 12:52 PM (iJfKG)
It’s the entire org. The higher ups are revolving-door with the industries they supposed to regulate.
The frontline workers are dead-eyed bureaucrats who slow everything down and stifle innovation, but will also approve drugs and devices that kill people so long as the paperwork is filed and the fees are paid.
Most clinical trials are a joke. Post-market surveillance is virtually non-existent, as the FDA itself so readily admits.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 07, 2025 12:57 PM (l3YAf)
394
We are approaching the "It's not a crime if everybody does it" excuse rationale for USAID.
We are approaching the "It's not a crime if everybody does it" excuse rationale for USAID.
Posted by: Auspex at February 07, 2025 12:57 PM (j4U/Z)
395
Whatever he decides to do with Gaza, Trump is simply establishing that it's his decision to make and the rest of the world just accepted it.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 07, 2025 12:57 PM (2UnvF)
396
In another of those total coincidences, West Texas Intermediate went down $2 a barrel over the past week
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 07, 2025 12:57 PM (lTGtQ)
397
She is probably an addict and not all there, otherwise being a pawn this way wouldn’t be as attractive to her, even with all his money.
==
It would be uncommon, even in Hollywood, for a woman to go nude in public, in front of the international press, for free.
She had nothing to gain. Except perhaps more drugs.
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It would be uncommon, even in Hollywood, for a woman to go nude in public, in front of the international press, for free.
She had nothing to gain. Except perhaps more drugs.
Posted by: It sad, and criminal at February 07, 2025 12:57 PM (DFTk8)
398
383 Ban the unions, which were allowed through Kennedy's executive-order in the first place. Anyone still "striking" gets fired. Anyone sabotaging the Executive gets hit with RICO.
Posted by: gKWVE at February 07, 2025 12:55 PM
THIS ^^^^
No more public employee unions.
Posted by: gKWVE at February 07, 2025 12:55 PM
THIS ^^^^
No more public employee unions.
Posted by: Frank Barone at February 07, 2025 12:57 PM (+oR7L)
399
That was Bigfoot.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 07, 2025 12:47 PM (fUDLX)
Speaking of which, anything more on Mooch and Obummer splitting the dishes?
Posted by: rickb223 at February 07, 2025 12:47 PM (fUDLX)
Speaking of which, anything more on Mooch and Obummer splitting the dishes?
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at February 07, 2025 12:57 PM (LxER7)
400
Ban the unions, which were allowed through Kennedy's executive-order in the first place.
Absolutely, there needs to be a global ban on public service unions. End them immediately.
Absolutely, there needs to be a global ban on public service unions. End them immediately.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 07, 2025 12:57 PM (2VST1)
401
85 Evidently a hawaiian judge has ruled that DOGE is illegal and claims to have shut it down. My guess is that absolutely nothing has stopped in the office, nor should it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Yeah, I think that judge is going to be slapped down. Agency was created by statute which means the judge has no say in administering the agency and the office was placed in the Executive Office of the Presidency.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Yeah, I think that judge is going to be slapped down. Agency was created by statute which means the judge has no say in administering the agency and the office was placed in the Executive Office of the Presidency.
Posted by: whig at February 07, 2025 12:58 PM (ctrM5)
402
So there there are honest FDA ham and eggers then??
Posted by: tubal at February 07, 2025 12:58 PM (PCK5/)
403
Via Insty, Egypt says it will work with partners to reconstruct Gaza without Palestinians leaving the strip — Reuters
https://tinyurl.com/2f5h8urh
https://tinyurl.com/2f5h8urh
Posted by: davidt at February 07, 2025 12:58 PM (i0F8b)
404
Gunther Eagleman™@GuntherEagleman
BREAKING: Democrats are trying to storm the Department of Education! Maxine Waters and Maxwell Frost are trying to force their way past the guards.
At one point, Waters asks the guards if they have firearms and if they will shoot them.
Is this an insurrection?
https://is.gd/rBGM15
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Wait'll Mad Max busts out her Kung Fu and parkour!
BREAKING: Democrats are trying to storm the Department of Education! Maxine Waters and Maxwell Frost are trying to force their way past the guards.
At one point, Waters asks the guards if they have firearms and if they will shoot them.
Is this an insurrection?
https://is.gd/rBGM15
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Wait'll Mad Max busts out her Kung Fu and parkour!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at February 07, 2025 12:58 PM (L/fGl)
405
They're now talking about wanting to help with the rebuild... and NO American troops.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 07, 2025 12:54 PM (7bmh6)
Yes, but he still wants the Pali's out
Posted by: It's me donna at February 07, 2025 12:55 PM (VE6XX)
In this situation, I really don't give a shit what Trump wants.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 07, 2025 12:54 PM (7bmh6)
Yes, but he still wants the Pali's out
Posted by: It's me donna at February 07, 2025 12:55 PM (VE6XX)
In this situation, I really don't give a shit what Trump wants.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 07, 2025 12:58 PM (7bmh6)
406
385 Evidently a hawaiian judge has ruled that DOGE is illegal and claims to have shut it down. My guess is that absolutely nothing has stopped in the office, nor should it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 07, 2025 12:56 PM (2VST1)
There is nothing to shut down.
Elon is not a government employee, he is an outside advisor to the president. And the President has delegated him the power to basically audit government agencies.
I'd like to see even a Hawaiian judge say that the President can not delegate his powers to anyone.
If so, great. That's the end of the bureaucracy. They only exist because Presidents have delegated power to them over the years.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 07, 2025 12:56 PM (2VST1)
There is nothing to shut down.
Elon is not a government employee, he is an outside advisor to the president. And the President has delegated him the power to basically audit government agencies.
I'd like to see even a Hawaiian judge say that the President can not delegate his powers to anyone.
If so, great. That's the end of the bureaucracy. They only exist because Presidents have delegated power to them over the years.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 07, 2025 12:58 PM (uCjyK)
407
"Donald Trump is not manufacturing a constitutional crisis -- is dismantling one."
-- Dr. Ben Carson
-- Dr. Ben Carson
Posted by: ShainS -- Behold the Initiation of Trump's 'Operation Crossfire Boomerang' at February 07, 2025 12:58 PM (QOEHB)
408
401 Yeah, I think that judge is going to be slapped down. Agency was created by statute which means the judge has no say in administering the agency and the office was placed in the Executive Office of the Presidency.
Posted by: whig at February 07, 2025 12:58 PM (ctrM5)
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A rebranding of the Office of Digital Security, or something.
Posted by: whig at February 07, 2025 12:58 PM (ctrM5)
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A rebranding of the Office of Digital Security, or something.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:58 PM (GBKbO)
409
Everyone in DC not only knew about it (and similar slush funds), they were on the take and laughing all the way to the bank.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 07, 2025 12:55 PM (uCjyK)
You know I mean genpop. It was never a campaign issue. Never discussed. Voters were never promised that it would expand. It never came up.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 07, 2025 12:55 PM (uCjyK)
You know I mean genpop. It was never a campaign issue. Never discussed. Voters were never promised that it would expand. It never came up.
Posted by: ... at February 07, 2025 12:58 PM (Ja2Pp)
410
Hawaiian judges + volcano = good idea?
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 07, 2025 12:59 PM (azCAX)
Posted by: Cuyahoga County public officials at February 07, 2025 12:59 PM (DFTk8)
412
I'm willing to pay a dollar an egg, if it protects the transgender comic books in Peru.
Posted by: The Great Poof at February 07, 2025 12:59 PM (G5+As)
413
Even *I* said public unions should not be allowed.
Posted by: Zombie FDR at February 07, 2025 12:59 PM (Vqx30)
414
406 Elon is not a government employee, he is an outside advisor to the president. And the President has delegated him the power to basically audit government agencies.
I'd like to see even a Hawaiian judge say that the President can not delegate his powers to anyone.
If so, great. That's the end of the bureaucracy. They only exist because Presidents have delegated power to them over the years.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 07, 2025 12:58 PM (uCjyK)
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Musk actually is a government employee. He's just taking no salary. Trump hired him into a rebranded office that they named DOGE.
The office is legal. Trump's ability to hire people to that office is not in question.
The judicial charge is dumb and doomed to die.
I'd like to see even a Hawaiian judge say that the President can not delegate his powers to anyone.
If so, great. That's the end of the bureaucracy. They only exist because Presidents have delegated power to them over the years.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 07, 2025 12:58 PM (uCjyK)
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Musk actually is a government employee. He's just taking no salary. Trump hired him into a rebranded office that they named DOGE.
The office is legal. Trump's ability to hire people to that office is not in question.
The judicial charge is dumb and doomed to die.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:59 PM (GBKbO)
415
Gee, why doesn't BLS want DOGE to look at the books?
Every single month in 2024 just got revised down in today’s jobs report—by an average of -626k. And if that wasn’t bad enough, the BLS business employment dynamics data and the Philly Fed’s early benchmark suggest even bigger downward revisions coming in the next annual update. Buckle up.
https://is.gd/ag808l
Every single month in 2024 just got revised down in today’s jobs report—by an average of -626k. And if that wasn’t bad enough, the BLS business employment dynamics data and the Philly Fed’s early benchmark suggest even bigger downward revisions coming in the next annual update. Buckle up.
https://is.gd/ag808l
Posted by: Archimedes at February 07, 2025 12:59 PM (xCA6C)
416
377 In their lawsuit, the unions claim the shutdown has created a "global humanitarian crisis" disruption to looting-marxism continuum.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
Funny how Marxists are claim evil Western capitalist nations won't let Marxist nations form and flourish, when it now seems they're totally reliant upon them for support.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
Funny how Marxists are claim evil Western capitalist nations won't let Marxist nations form and flourish, when it now seems they're totally reliant upon them for support.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at February 07, 2025 01:00 PM (PGQzS)
417
415 Gee, why doesn't BLS want DOGE to look at the books?
Every single month in 2024 just got revised down in today’s jobs report—by an average of -626k. And if that wasn’t bad enough, the BLS business employment dynamics data and the Philly Fed’s early benchmark suggest even bigger downward revisions coming in the next annual update. Buckle up.
https://is.gd/ag808l
Posted by: Archimedes at February 07, 2025 12:59 PM (xCA6C)
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I'm waiting with baited breath the look into the Census.
Every single month in 2024 just got revised down in today’s jobs report—by an average of -626k. And if that wasn’t bad enough, the BLS business employment dynamics data and the Philly Fed’s early benchmark suggest even bigger downward revisions coming in the next annual update. Buckle up.
https://is.gd/ag808l
Posted by: Archimedes at February 07, 2025 12:59 PM (xCA6C)
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I'm waiting with baited breath the look into the Census.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 01:00 PM (GBKbO)
418
Funny how all these power couples don't seem to last past their usefulness.
Posted by: BurtTC
Shit....
Posted by: BurtTC
Shit....
Posted by: Doug Emhoff at February 07, 2025 01:00 PM (PGQzS)
419
@408
>>A rebranding of the Office of Digital Security, or something.
The idea that the Unitary Executive can't audit his executive agencies is a wild concept.
Even for the left.
>>A rebranding of the Office of Digital Security, or something.
The idea that the Unitary Executive can't audit his executive agencies is a wild concept.
Even for the left.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 07, 2025 01:00 PM (XV/Pl)
420
Yeah, I think that judge is going to be slapped down. Agency was created by statute which means the judge has no say in administering the agency and the office was placed in the Executive Office of the Presidency.
Yeah it has no chance, I'd just ignore it if I were DOGE, and I am certain they are. I mean, you can have your opinion as a judge if you want, but that's all it is.
This is the same judge who put a grandma in prison and mocked her faith.
Yeah it has no chance, I'd just ignore it if I were DOGE, and I am certain they are. I mean, you can have your opinion as a judge if you want, but that's all it is.
This is the same judge who put a grandma in prison and mocked her faith.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 07, 2025 01:01 PM (2VST1)
421
419 The idea that the Unitary Executive can't audit his executive agencies is a wild concept.
Even for the left.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 07, 2025 01:00 PM (XV/Pl)
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*considers last 100 years*
*considers partisanship*
Nah. Not a wild concept.
Even for the left.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 07, 2025 01:00 PM (XV/Pl)
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*considers last 100 years*
*considers partisanship*
Nah. Not a wild concept.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 01:01 PM (GBKbO)
422
I'm waiting with baited breath the look into the Census.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 01:00 PM (GBKbO)
With that attitude someone is going to hook you.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 01:00 PM (GBKbO)
With that attitude someone is going to hook you.
Posted by: ... at February 07, 2025 01:01 PM (Ja2Pp)
423
I'm waiting with baited breath the look into the Census.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 01:00 PM (GBKbO)
Baited Breath? I'm sure your fishing buddies have something to say about that
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 01:00 PM (GBKbO)
Baited Breath? I'm sure your fishing buddies have something to say about that
Posted by: mrp at February 07, 2025 01:02 PM (rj6Yv)
424
Apologies if this was already covered. Do WI Morons know more about this? Is he referring to the WI State or the US House?
https://x.com/ScottPresler
/status
/1887567603024961905
I’m asking every conservative to post about Wisconsin’s Supreme Court election on April 1st.
Too many folks are celebrating.
If we lose this election, Republicans will lose 2 seats in the House.
👉 Vote for Brad Schimel
🗓️ Tuesday, April 1st, 2025
📍 Wisconsin
➡️
@TeamSchimel
https://x.com/ScottPresler
/status
/1887567603024961905
I’m asking every conservative to post about Wisconsin’s Supreme Court election on April 1st.
Too many folks are celebrating.
If we lose this election, Republicans will lose 2 seats in the House.
👉 Vote for Brad Schimel
🗓️ Tuesday, April 1st, 2025
📍 Wisconsin
➡️
@TeamSchimel
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 07, 2025 01:02 PM (Vqx30)
425
Yeah, lost in the noise is that Musk and his crew are just auditing and reporting to Trump what they find.
Posted by: davidt at February 07, 2025 01:03 PM (i0F8b)
426
This is the same judge who put a grandma in prison and mocked her faith.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 07, 2025 01:01 PM (2VST1)
I hope Trumpy is paying attention.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 07, 2025 01:01 PM (2VST1)
I hope Trumpy is paying attention.
Posted by: ... at February 07, 2025 01:03 PM (Ja2Pp)
427
I guess if I didn't get a Joey Pardon-for-anything pass or free money from USAID and have been yelling my support for Democrats the last 4 years I'd be out protesting, too.
For the standard $20 / hr rate, of course.
I guess if I didn't get a Joey Pardon-for-anything pass or free money from USAID and have been yelling my support for Democrats the last 4 years I'd be out protesting, too.
For the standard $20 / hr rate, of course.
Posted by: Auspex at February 07, 2025 01:03 PM (j4U/Z)
428
423 I'm waiting with baited breath the look into the Census.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 01:00 PM (GBKbO)
Baited Breath? I'm sure your fishing buddies have something to say about that
Posted by: mrp at February 07, 2025 01:02 PM (rj6Yv)
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Well, I'm royally scrod.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 01:00 PM (GBKbO)
Baited Breath? I'm sure your fishing buddies have something to say about that
Posted by: mrp at February 07, 2025 01:02 PM (rj6Yv)
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Well, I'm royally scrod.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 01:03 PM (GBKbO)
429
>>Evidently a hawaiian judge has ruled that DOGE is illegal and claims to have shut it down. My guess is that absolutely nothing has stopped in the office, nor should it.
Might as well declare the Executive Branch illegal.
Might as well declare the Executive Branch illegal.
Posted by: garrett at February 07, 2025 01:03 PM (9Q8fk)
430
What on earth did USAID pay Prince Harry for and for how much?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 07, 2025 01:03 PM (DfdQC)
431
They have methodically ignored the courts for decades… we obviously should do the same.
Posted by: tubal at February 07, 2025 01:03 PM (PCK5/)
432
422 I'm waiting with baited breath the look into the Census.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
It's "bated".
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
It's "bated".
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at February 07, 2025 01:03 PM (G5+As)
433
429 Might as well declare the Executive Branch illegal.
Posted by: garrett at February 07, 2025 01:03 PM (9Q8fk)
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Well, civilian say in the executive branch through elections.f
Posted by: garrett at February 07, 2025 01:03 PM (9Q8fk)
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Well, civilian say in the executive branch through elections.f
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 01:04 PM (GBKbO)
434
nood biden job
Posted by: Sturmtoddler at February 07, 2025 01:04 PM (nXhwP)
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You know I mean genpop. It was never a campaign issue. Never discussed. Voters were never promised that it would expand. It never came up.
Posted by: ... at February 07, 2025 12:58 PM (Ja2Pp)
People have been talking about USAID since the Church Committee days.
But if everyone's in on the grift, who is going to amplify those discussions? The media? Also in on the take.
Plus, again, let's be realistic here -- this is Trump directly taking on the CIA. In a way no President has ever done. Moreso than even JFK did.
Most politicians would not do that.
Posted by: ... at February 07, 2025 12:58 PM (Ja2Pp)
People have been talking about USAID since the Church Committee days.
But if everyone's in on the grift, who is going to amplify those discussions? The media? Also in on the take.
Plus, again, let's be realistic here -- this is Trump directly taking on the CIA. In a way no President has ever done. Moreso than even JFK did.
Most politicians would not do that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 07, 2025 01:04 PM (uCjyK)
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Yeah, lost in the noise is that Musk and his crew are just auditing and reporting to Trump what they find.
The crux of the objection to Musk now seems to be that some people who "blew the whistle" about employment practices at Tesla will now be known to Musk. It's more labored than the octomom.
The crux of the objection to Musk now seems to be that some people who "blew the whistle" about employment practices at Tesla will now be known to Musk. It's more labored than the octomom.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 07, 2025 01:04 PM (xCA6C)
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Musk actually is a government employee. He's just taking no salary. Trump hired him into a rebranded office that they named DOGE.
The office is legal. Trump's ability to hire people to that office is not in question.
The judicial charge is dumb and doomed to die.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:59 PM (GBKbO)
Oh, my bad. I misunderstood the structure then.
The office is legal. Trump's ability to hire people to that office is not in question.
The judicial charge is dumb and doomed to die.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 12:59 PM (GBKbO)
Oh, my bad. I misunderstood the structure then.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 07, 2025 01:04 PM (uCjyK)
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432 422 I'm waiting with baited breath the look into the Census.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
It's "bated".
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at February 07, 2025 01:03 PM (G5+As)
Ew!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
It's "bated".
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at February 07, 2025 01:03 PM (G5+As)
Ew!
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at February 07, 2025 01:04 PM (LxER7)
439
425 Yeah, lost in the noise is that Musk and his crew are just auditing and reporting to Trump what they find.
Posted by: davidt
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Rogan refers to them as wizards. Sounds cool, scary to Dems, and appropriate.
The Wizards of DOGE.
Posted by: davidt
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Rogan refers to them as wizards. Sounds cool, scary to Dems, and appropriate.
The Wizards of DOGE.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 07, 2025 01:05 PM (lCWOD)
440
Afuera!
I'm sure all the governmental workers Milei got fired by canceling their departments were crying. The average Argentinian doesn't care, their inflation and wherefore what every pay was slashed dramatically as a result.
I know there will be pain; I know people whose jobs will probably be canned, and I feel for them. But it's a necessary course correction. A little pain now, prosperity later. And the people I know are talented enough they will find new work.
I'm sure all the governmental workers Milei got fired by canceling their departments were crying. The average Argentinian doesn't care, their inflation and wherefore what every pay was slashed dramatically as a result.
I know there will be pain; I know people whose jobs will probably be canned, and I feel for them. But it's a necessary course correction. A little pain now, prosperity later. And the people I know are talented enough they will find new work.
Posted by: LizLem at February 07, 2025 01:05 PM (gWBY1)
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If an employee takes a buy out, does the union take their cut out of the buy out? If not this will cut into union money!
Posted by: Chillin the most at February 07, 2025 01:05 PM (5r2Iw)
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437 Oh, my bad. I misunderstood the structure then.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 07, 2025 01:04 PM (uCjyK)
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Not a huge detail, but important when it comes to access to government systems, probably.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 07, 2025 01:04 PM (uCjyK)
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Not a huge detail, but important when it comes to access to government systems, probably.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at February 07, 2025 01:05 PM (GBKbO)
443
At New Neo they refer to them as The Muskateers.
Posted by: davidt at February 07, 2025 01:06 PM (i0F8b)
444
Who you gonna believe, Elon Musk or Brian Stelter?
Brian Stelter@brianstelter
Open this app [X].
See that it's absolutely bursting with wild falsehoods about government spending.
Maybe that's just how Musk likes it?
Brian Stelter@brianstelter
Open this app [X].
See that it's absolutely bursting with wild falsehoods about government spending.
Maybe that's just how Musk likes it?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at February 07, 2025 01:07 PM (L/fGl)
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I suspect most of the FDA's problems begin and end with the higher ups.
I suppose their authorization process could be faster, which seems to be your complaint, but that's not where the incentive lies. Releasing a bad drug or vaccine is bad and possibly career ending.
Posted by: naturalfake at February 07, 2025 12:52 PM (iJfKG)
It’s the entire org. The higher ups are revolving-door with the industries they supposed to regulate.
The frontline workers are dead-eyed bureaucrats who slow everything down and stifle innovation, but will also approve drugs and devices that kill people so long as the paperwork is filed and the fees are paid.
Most clinical trials are a joke. Post-market surveillance is virtually non-existent, as the FDA itself so readily admits.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 07, 2025 12:57 PM (l3YAf)
Yes, yes. All of those employed by the FDA are satanic zombies from the very bowels of hell itself.
Geez, what happened? They turn down your application for a Bluetooth Controlled Butt Plug of something?
I suppose their authorization process could be faster, which seems to be your complaint, but that's not where the incentive lies. Releasing a bad drug or vaccine is bad and possibly career ending.
Posted by: naturalfake at February 07, 2025 12:52 PM (iJfKG)
It’s the entire org. The higher ups are revolving-door with the industries they supposed to regulate.
The frontline workers are dead-eyed bureaucrats who slow everything down and stifle innovation, but will also approve drugs and devices that kill people so long as the paperwork is filed and the fees are paid.
Most clinical trials are a joke. Post-market surveillance is virtually non-existent, as the FDA itself so readily admits.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 07, 2025 12:57 PM (l3YAf)
Yes, yes. All of those employed by the FDA are satanic zombies from the very bowels of hell itself.
Geez, what happened? They turn down your application for a Bluetooth Controlled Butt Plug of something?
Posted by: naturalfake at February 07, 2025 01:07 PM (iJfKG)
446
437 Musk actually is a government employee. He's just taking no salary. Trump hired him into a rebranded office that they named DOGE.
The office is legal. Trump's ability to hire people to that office is not in question.
The judicial charge is dumb and doomed to die.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies
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Posted last yesterday DOGE has been done two times before.
The first time was Senator Harry Truman who, in today's dollars, sliced something like $250 Billion out of FDR's programs.
The Truman commission.
The office is legal. Trump's ability to hire people to that office is not in question.
The judicial charge is dumb and doomed to die.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies
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Posted last yesterday DOGE has been done two times before.
The first time was Senator Harry Truman who, in today's dollars, sliced something like $250 Billion out of FDR's programs.
The Truman commission.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 07, 2025 01:08 PM (lCWOD)
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The screaming and wailing from DC is louder today. Good.
Next up, the unemployed will move to Ireland (so I read in UK DM today). A "stampede" of VISA's to Ireland. Poor Ireland...first having to deal with barbarians from Africa and now the USA liberal twits.
Looking forward to Trump's Fourth Monday! When the news hits the fan and the screeching amplifies.
Next up, the unemployed will move to Ireland (so I read in UK DM today). A "stampede" of VISA's to Ireland. Poor Ireland...first having to deal with barbarians from Africa and now the USA liberal twits.
Looking forward to Trump's Fourth Monday! When the news hits the fan and the screeching amplifies.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at February 07, 2025 01:09 PM (gi+MR)
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“I didn’t vote for Elon!”
Nobody voted for tens of millions of foreigners to be imported against our will on our dime either. Everything is bullshit.
It was obvious 40 years ago. Cut all these fucking parasite fuckers in government off at the knees. Way, way past time.
It has to be done, it will be done. Better prior to a currency crisis or genuine emergency. That which cannot go on will not. Despite a bunch of geriatric grifter weasels protestations to the contrary
Nobody voted for tens of millions of foreigners to be imported against our will on our dime either. Everything is bullshit.
It was obvious 40 years ago. Cut all these fucking parasite fuckers in government off at the knees. Way, way past time.
It has to be done, it will be done. Better prior to a currency crisis or genuine emergency. That which cannot go on will not. Despite a bunch of geriatric grifter weasels protestations to the contrary
Posted by: Common Tater at February 07, 2025 01:10 PM (I69X4)
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Now is not the time for NASA to start bragging that the multi-billion, decade behind schedule, SLS rocket will land the first female and POC on the moon.
Or actually it would be a great time!
Or actually it would be a great time!
Posted by: pawn at February 07, 2025 01:11 PM (QB+5g)
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movies
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Posted last yesterday DOGE has been done two times before.
The first time was Senator Harry Truman who, in today's dollars, sliced something like $250 Billion out of FDR's programs.
The Truman commission.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 07, 2025 01:08 PM (lCWOD)
When he left the Whitehouse, Old Harry drove himself and Bess home to Missouri in their private car..
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Posted last yesterday DOGE has been done two times before.
The first time was Senator Harry Truman who, in today's dollars, sliced something like $250 Billion out of FDR's programs.
The Truman commission.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 07, 2025 01:08 PM (lCWOD)
When he left the Whitehouse, Old Harry drove himself and Bess home to Missouri in their private car..
Posted by: Eromero at February 07, 2025 01:13 PM (jgmnb)
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"Every single month in 2024 just got revised down in today’s jobs report—by an average of -626k. "
he says 626K, but his chart says 626.
he says 626K, but his chart says 626.
Posted by: illiniwek at February 07, 2025 01:14 PM (Cus5s)
452
"Trump administration's efforts to shut down USAID [...] threatens thousands of jobs and disrupts global humanitarian aid."
This sounds a lot like "failure to state a claim" to me.
This sounds a lot like "failure to state a claim" to me.
Posted by: Rick C at February 07, 2025 01:23 PM (NEIix)
453
They thought the stroke and their puny human medical treatments killed me. But they did not. I survived, and I grow stronger every day. My hulking mutant pilots me through your halls of power, and his hirsute bride returns to service my turgid brain tentacle once again. Behold it and tremble.
Posted by: Fetterman's Neck Kuato at February 07, 2025 01:26 PM (0l8OY)
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Elon Musk has several undergraduate degrees in hard science and economics. He does NOT have a PhD however, since he dropped out of a Stanford PhD program to pursue making money. He seems to have made the right move there.
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at February 07, 2025 01:33 PM (gWkru)
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I've been worried about inflation -- how is Trump going to cut it? - Ace
Another way to help is to cut energy prices as quickly as possible. Trump & Co. have made this point repeatedly and it's true.
Every step on the supply chain will have reduced costs if we can bring energy prices down through opening up the wells and adding more electricity to the grid.
It won't lower prices but it will stabilize them if we can also cut government spending combined with more money coming back in through increased tariffs.
Another way to help is to cut energy prices as quickly as possible. Trump & Co. have made this point repeatedly and it's true.
Every step on the supply chain will have reduced costs if we can bring energy prices down through opening up the wells and adding more electricity to the grid.
It won't lower prices but it will stabilize them if we can also cut government spending combined with more money coming back in through increased tariffs.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at February 07, 2025 01:37 PM (6ydKt)
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"president lacks authority to dismantle a congressionally established agency."
Kennedy created USAID via executive order. Congress had nothing to do with it. What one president can create, another can destroy.
Kennedy created USAID via executive order. Congress had nothing to do with it. What one president can create, another can destroy.
Posted by: El Mariachi at February 07, 2025 02:10 PM (nLFEI)
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"JUST IN: Secretary of State @MarcoRubio has just informed USAID workers that he only needs 294 of them."
I'll take "The Next President" for $1K and the answer is Marcos Rubio
I'll take "The Next President" for $1K and the answer is Marcos Rubio
Posted by: Joe at February 07, 2025 02:11 PM (Uy/WF)
458
Shitstain on aisle 264
Posted by: Bonecrusher at February 07, 2025 02:31 PM (JNTt1)
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And what is the basis of the lawsuit? We demand the right to waste your money?
Posted by: El Mariachi at February 07, 2025 02:34 PM (nLFEI)
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I got to give him credit, when Obama deposited half a billion $ on the runway in Iran, 90% probably didn’t go to leftists in Virginia.
Posted by: Ifotnothing at February 07, 2025 03:22 PM (LTRHw)
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I figure they could cut State to about 2,000 total. Its a bloated, useless, critter that does not represent the USA. Talk to a foreign service officer to see what arrogance and stupidity means.
Posted by: TJ Jackson at February 07, 2025 04:11 PM (bXvrr)
462
USAID needs to GO and Pronto Right Now
Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at February 07, 2025 04:56 PM (wGqjj)
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