Daily Tech News 29 January 2025

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A lot of stuff is being written about Chinese AI DeepSeek right now, and most of it is probably wrong. Somehow The Verge seems to have been skeptical where skepticism was appropriate for once. (The Verge) (archive site)
It took about a month for the finance world to start freaking out about DeepSeek, but when it did, it took more than half a trillion dollars - or one entire Stargate - off Nvidia's market cap. It wasn't just Nvidia, either: Tesla, Google, Amazon, and Microsoft tanked.
This is of course true. The sky-high valuations were irrational, and the drop was also irrational.
Even if critics are correct and DeepSeek isn't being truthful about what GPUs it has on hand (napkin math suggests the optimization techniques used means they are being truthful), it won't take long for the open-source community to find out, according to Hugging Face's head of research, Leandro von Werra. His team started working over the weekend to replicate and open-source the R1 recipe, and once researchers can create their own version of the model, "we're going to find out pretty quickly if numbers add up."
DeepSeek claims 100x improvements in training efficiency, but its published papers are full of micro-optimisations, which do not create 100x performance gains.
There are some people who are skeptical that DeepSeek's achievements were done in the way described. "We question the notion that its feats were done without the use of advanced GPUs to fine tune it and/or build the underlying LLMs the final model is based on," says Citi analyst Atif Malik in a research note. "It seems categorically false that 'China duplicated OpenAI for $5M' and we don't think it really bears further discussion," says Bernstein analyst Stacy Rasgon in her own note.
My take as well. DeepSeek did some useful work, and they published it. But there are very good reasons to believe that they didn't do everything they said - such as the fact that on release, DeepSeek was convinced it was ChatGPT.

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I'm not saying it was the FAA, but it was the FAA: The drones flying over New Jersey last month were research flights authorised by the FAA. (The Guardian)

So why didn't they say that?
Asus could be working on a Ryzen Max+ 395 NUC. (Liliputing)

Asus is already putting that CPU in a laptop, and owns Intel's NUC business, and a NUC with a Max+ 395 was spotted on the website of India's electronics regulator, so it definitely exists now, and we just don't know if and when it will arrive on the market.
Meanwhile AMD's Radeon 9000 series will cost something. (Tom's Hardware)

We don't know what though.
Apple's CPUs can leak data via FLOP and SLAP attacks. (Ars Technica)

This doesn't look like something to be paranoid about unless you're paid to be paranoid. Apple is planning firmware patches.
Government workers have filed a lawsuit against the government for sending them a government email to their government email addresses. (The Hill)

Yeah, good luck with that.

Musical Interlude

Disclaimer: Ring ring! Banana milk!

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:00 AM

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1 BOING!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at January 29, 2025 04:02 AM (GHvvy)

2 Back to the dentist!

My kingdom for a crown.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at January 29, 2025 04:04 AM (GHvvy)

3 Top 5?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 29, 2025 04:06 AM (omVj0)

4 Money from heaven:

https://tinyurl.com/4x8xexf5

Looks like pilot is safe.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at January 29, 2025 04:06 AM (GHvvy)

5 Millions of condoms for Gaza.

Hmmm........

Wonder why.......

https://tinyurl.com/5n9abmdk

F U, Brandon!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at January 29, 2025 04:09 AM (GHvvy)

6 Evening and morning, late toilers and early risers! 'Tis Woden's Day, and shortly we shall be halfway along the winding dusty trail to the weekend.

After the worrisome news about certain antihistamines being linked to dementia, I'm trying not to use Unisom tablets to sleep. Some melatonin last night and a valerian root capsule (don't inhale while you handle those, they stink) seems to have let me sleep. Two nights running w/ 4-5 hours sleep each might have had something to do with it, too.

I wish I could sleep at will like the Killer Kittenz do!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 29, 2025 04:09 AM (omVj0)

7 Mornin'

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 29, 2025 04:18 AM (sAmhv)

8 Only four hours of sleep for me, last night. I blame myself, because I stayed on X until I went to bed, and my mind was roiling.

Usually, I try to give myself an hour or two with no computer before bed. That helps me sleep well, usually. But my gosh..what a day yesterday was, politically.

Oh well, just an at-home work day today, so should be fine.

Posted by: lizabth at January 29, 2025 04:22 AM (Jfw7U)

9 Re Pixy's Link about Government email, and the article at "The Hill"... First Paragraph:

"Two federal employees are suing the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) to block the agency from creating a new email distribution system — an action that comes as the information will reportedly be directed to a former staffer to Elon Musk now at the agency."

You direct something from one person to another. You don't use the word "to" twice during the redirection. "The Hill" = writing hacks.

"Also cited in the suit is an anonymous Reddit post Monday from someone purporting to be an OPM employee, saying a new server was installed at their office after a career employee refused to set up a direct line of communication to all federal employees."

1. If the information is truthful, all it shows is that someone with the lawful power to make a change did so. An employee refused, and someone else was obviously directed to make the change and did so. Not seeing how this helps the legal case at all.

2. Citing a Reddit post... which mentions an anoymous employee. Would you like to introduce unicorn farts and skittles as your next piece of "evidence"?

ARGH.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 29, 2025 04:22 AM (O7YUW)

10 So why didn't they say that?
..........................
So the Barak O'Biden administration can have there 'LOOK, SQUIRREL ' distraction.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 29, 2025 04:23 AM (sAmhv)

11 (kicks thread)

Everybody go back to bed?

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 29, 2025 04:52 AM (sAmhv)

12 Howdy all y'all.
Man what a day yesterday was !!
Massive upheaval - I hope it isn't thwarted by judges & the administrative bog.
Our government has become too invasive, powerful & evil, against its own citizens.

ROLL ON !

Posted by: OkJohn at January 29, 2025 04:54 AM (NC/it)

13 Moar coffee.

Posted by: OkJohn at January 29, 2025 04:55 AM (NC/it)

14 - Back to bed? No.
Though I'd like to have gotten another hour of sleep.
Ah well. 1st cup next to me.

Posted by: TeeJ at January 29, 2025 04:56 AM (hht4k)

15 So glad to see the ugliness exposed. Also sad that it is such a terrible state.
I have become an extreme isolationist. Not one dime should be going anywhere. We should mind our own business, period!
No NGOs. What a total scam! The will of the people has been shaved into background noise, but is becoming into a strong desire itself& not to be ignored.

Posted by: OkJohn at January 29, 2025 05:02 AM (NC/it)

16 Morning all

Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2025 05:06 AM (zmGDy)

17 G'morning, all!

44.6 degrees with only 76% RH.

Good walking weather for this morning.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 29, 2025 05:11 AM (a1415)

18 Some guy's understanding of what's going on with DeepSeek. Is he correct? Who knows? Still it's one of the better takes that I've seen to date.

https://youtu.be/r3TpcHebtxM

And finally, some other guy explains DeepSeek to his grandmother. With whiteboard goodness.

https://youtu.be/kv8frWeKoeo

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at January 29, 2025 05:12 AM (Q8Bj8)

19 - Pixy put up a Dire Straits vid?
A band I like, but...
Can I trust He ( she? ) hasn't done some computerey thing that redirects to some technoish song backing some of that big eyed, cartoon stuff?
Plus, for this early, this one was a better listen.
The great Satchmo.

https://tinyurl.com/t7ek56tz

Posted by: TeeJ at January 29, 2025 05:12 AM (hht4k)

20 Morning!

So Mondays crappy market was caused by Deepseek?

What can't AI do?

Grrrrrr

Posted by: Bruce at January 29, 2025 05:13 AM (j1G85)

21 I was wondering why my home internet speed kinda went to crap over the last few weeks.

Then I found a bad cable leading from the ethernet switch out to the garage ceiling mounted router.

Changed out 7 other TJ-45 connectors that had been incorrectly made up with the cable jacket not in the body far enough to be compressed by the plug, let alone the maximum 1/2 inch of max exposed wires.

I probably have more of them to do in the next few days, but speed is back up in the 600 MBPS range again.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 29, 2025 05:14 AM (a1415)

22 TJ-45?

Thank you again, auto-cucumber.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 29, 2025 05:20 AM (a1415)

23 Happy Wednesday, everyone. Interesting night in class as we have one student whose a lawyer in the federal government. He talked about the offer for 8 months' salary as a severance package. There are concerns about the traffic congestion and trying to find enough office space for the incoming people.

Posted by: NR Pax at January 29, 2025 05:22 AM (99eI0)

24 Very nice of the Trump administration to acknowledge that the drones over New Jersey belong to the FAA. Not so nice is the complete lack of transparency about what the FAA Is up to with those drones.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at January 29, 2025 05:22 AM (Q8Bj8)

25 Happy Wednesday, everyone. Interesting night in class as we have one student whose a lawyer in the federal government. He talked about the offer for 8 months' salary as a severance package. There are concerns about the traffic congestion and trying to find enough office space for the incoming people.
Posted by: NR Pax

Where fid the office space go? Someone steal it?
When we came back into the office after covid, everything was still there the way we left it.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2025 05:24 AM (zmGDy)

26 "Not so nice is the complete lack of transparency about what the FAA Is up to with those drones."

Things....

And stuff.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 29, 2025 05:25 AM (a1415)

27 Very nice of the Trump administration to acknowledge that the drones over New Jersey belong to the FAA. Not so nice is the complete lack of transparency about what the FAA Is up to with those drones.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram

Not so nice Joey Shitpants couldn't say anything about it.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2025 05:25 AM (zmGDy)

28 Compare and contrast.

Maryland Governor Wes Moore is trying every way to protect the illegal immigrants in Maryland from apprehension and removal.

South Carolina Governor Henry McMaster has stated that S.C. is prepared to do whatever DOJ and ICE ask of them.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 29, 2025 05:28 AM (a1415)

29 Where fid the office space go? Someone steal it?

Perhaps they hired more people with the expectation that they could still work from home.

Maryland Governor Wes Moore is trying every way to protect the illegal immigrants in Maryland from apprehension and removal.

As a resident of the GPROMD, I hope his efforts fail.

Posted by: NR Pax at January 29, 2025 05:32 AM (99eI0)

30 I went to Palomas, Mexico yesterday to get updated lenses for my glasses. Total cost $65. $85 including my gas and a plate of huevos rancheros at the restaurant next door to the optical place. The quality of the work comparable to what I get at LensCrafters for $300 plus dollars.

An indicator that the border is in complete turmoil is I saw for the first time ever, while walking around Palomas, some serious looking army dudes chilling on a side road in their trucks with 50 caliber machine guns mounted in the bed.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at January 29, 2025 05:33 AM (Q8Bj8)

31 Compare and contrast.

Maryland Governor Wes Moore is trying every way to protect the illegal immigrants in Maryland from apprehension and removal.

South Carolina Governor Henry McMaster has stated that S.C. is prepared to do whatever DOJ and ICE ask of them.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

How many fruits and vegetables are picked in Maryland?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2025 05:37 AM (zmGDy)

32 "How many fruits and vegetables are picked in Maryland?"

Eastern shore has massive vegetable growing areas. as well as some of the major chicken processing plants on the East Coast.

Don't think there isn't a huge illegal immigrant population there.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 29, 2025 05:39 AM (a1415)

33 A beautiful psalm of praise-Psalm 93

https://tinyurl.com/4hpf7ky3

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 29, 2025 05:39 AM (q86M1)

34 Good Morning

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 29, 2025 05:40 AM (gbOdA)

35 Time for the morning walk.

BBIAB

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 29, 2025 05:42 AM (a1415)

36 "Sultans of Swing": one of the songs that made 1979 the last truly great year for pop music. (Note I did not say "rock" music.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 29, 2025 05:48 AM (omVj0)

37 A young man receiving comfort after the death of a loved one. And the encouragement to help others when he was feeling stronger . Psalm 34 vs 15-18

https://tinyurl.com/yjxah9t5

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 29, 2025 05:50 AM (q86M1)

38 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at January 29, 2025 05:55 AM (hoCmQ)

39 So why didn't they say that?
..........................
So the Barak O'Biden administration can have there 'LOOK, SQUIRREL ' distraction.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 29, 2025

***
Because they are like children with secrets. "I know something you don't know!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 29, 2025 05:56 AM (omVj0)

40 The hysteria over who's going to pick the crops if we deport all the illegals is some pretty good propaganda.

A few things I think are relevant. The size of the illegal alien population in the US is between 10% and 15% and is distorting a number of different aspects of the economy and the social fabric. A few areas impacted by illegal aliens: wage growth is depressed, billions of dollars that would be circulating in our economy is being sent back to the countries they came from, rental housing costs are sky high, welfare costs have skyrocketed, public schools are straining under the load of all these children that can't speak English, and we have imported and allowed violent multinational gangs gain a toehold the United States. Yeah!

These costs and the effects of the Biden administration blowing up the economy with their spending dwarf any additional increase in farm produce. What's really at risk? The Democrats plan to distort the voting population in their favor permanently when they begin to demand that there's nothing we can do but to make these people citizens.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at January 29, 2025 05:57 AM (Q8Bj8)

41 FenSpouse has the day off today. Yay!.They call it an in service day , but I suppose it’s really for Chinese New Year. So I am going to have a day off probably shopping a bit at a high end lovely supermarket and take a walk at the very nice park nearby. It’s good to have some time off from the sturm and drang of National Politics and electronic devices. May you have a day full of blessings and know that you are a blessing to others!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 29, 2025 05:57 AM (LCCzK)

42 [ii]So why didn't they say that?

Because FAA is asshoe.

Posted by: olddog in mo at January 29, 2025 06:01 AM (hoCmQ)

43 The hysteria over who's going to pick the crops if we deport all the illegals is some pretty good propaganda.

Lost in the discussion over food prices increasing due to the loss of slave labor is the fact that demand will come down also once 10-20 percent of the population is gone.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 29, 2025 06:03 AM (ExV1e)

44 Three Sultans of Swing covers from YouTube I like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcVJrul4sOA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS1WYIu_gA4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g3Dy2TcGBs

Bonus: Very big man, he dance very big
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0doFA0696g

Posted by: meh at January 29, 2025 06:03 AM (N462N)

45 Oh yes. I did want to share a bit about FenSpouse’s reaction to a bit of the press briefing by Karolyn Leavitt because it made me laugh:
“God made the heavens and the earth in seven days, but these press dopes want President Trump to bring down the price of eggs in seven days!”

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 29, 2025 06:06 AM (LCCzK)

46 Our government can't tell us why the hell they are flying drones around everywhere? Knowing people have seen and reported them because they are concerned? It's no wonder why people hate the government.

Posted by: Case at January 29, 2025 06:14 AM (NMZGW)

47 “God made the heavens and the earth in seven days, but these press dopes want President Trump to bring down the price of eggs in seven days!”

Teacher was talking about that last night. Supposedly, Trump claimed that egg prices would drop when he took office. Had to restrain myself from pointing out that Biden promised to cure cancer if he was President.

Posted by: NR Pax at January 29, 2025 06:15 AM (99eI0)

48 Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Rejoinder: Banana milk who?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at January 29, 2025 06:16 AM (6K6Eu)

49 Observation: Guitar George knows *all* the chords.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at January 29, 2025 06:17 AM (6K6Eu)

50
Good morning, Hordians. Up, dressed, morning prayers said, dogs taken care of, coffee made, now streaming Pohjola's Daughter by Sibelius.

Off to visit Space Center Houston this morning. Despite having lived here for 15 years, we've never been there.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 29, 2025 06:20 AM (dxSpM)

51 Excellent selection of covers. I have been following Turner and Imbiriba for a while now. They're gems.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at January 29, 2025 06:21 AM (Q8Bj8)

52 This is of course true. The sky-high valuations were irrational, and the drop was also irrational.

———-

Wait? I thought rich investors are the smartest people on the planet and deserve all their riches due to their meritorious efforts at being so smart and rich?

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 29, 2025 06:22 AM (Vh9CX)

53 I thought rich investors are the smartest people on the planet...

A lot of them think that also.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 29, 2025 06:23 AM (ExV1e)

54 My take as well. DeepSeek did some useful work, and they published it. But there are very good reasons to believe that they didn't do everything they said - such as the fact that on release, DeepSeek was convinced it was ChatGPT.

How do you convince yourself that you didn't just strip other LLMs for content and try to pretend you aren't a fucking fraud of an IP? Oh, wait, nevermind.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 29, 2025 06:24 AM (mlg/3)

55 Why didn't the government admit the drone activity was FAA sanctioned? When did the Biden Junta ever feel like it had to respond to the proles?

In matters large and small, the Junta believed itself better than us peons and moved to ruthlessly to suppress anything which resembled the truth from ever getting out.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 29, 2025 06:25 AM (tT6L1)

56
Wait? I thought rich investors are the smartest people on the planet and deserve all their riches due to their meritorious efforts at being so smart and rich?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 29, 2025 06:22 AM (Vh9CX)

There's an old saying that you should start selling when doctors start buying.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 29, 2025 06:26 AM (dxSpM)

57 2+2=marmalade. You can't have you cake and pleat it too. 43.

Posted by: Deepfreek at January 29, 2025 06:29 AM (vFG9F)

58 The market had a tantrum on Monday and got so worked up It threw up on itself. After cleaning itself up, on Tuesday it went right back to being greedy and drove prices back up. It happens.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at January 29, 2025 06:30 AM (Q8Bj8)

59 There's an old saying that you should start selling when doctors start buying.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 29, 2025 06:26 AM (dxSpM)

I recall hearing an apocryphal story of an investor who survived the crash in 1929 because he got out of the market after being given investment advice by a shoeshine boy.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 29, 2025 06:31 AM (ExV1e)

60 The hysteria over who's going to pick the crops if we deport all the illegals is some pretty good propaganda.

Democrats 1861 - Who will pick our cotton?

Democrats 2025 - Who will pick our vegetables?

Nothing has changed.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2025 06:31 AM (zmGDy)

61 2+2=marmalade. You can't have you cake and pleat it too. 43.
Posted by: Deepfreek at January 29, 2025 06:29 AM (vFG9F)
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Outta state, man. Right arm!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at January 29, 2025 06:31 AM (6K6Eu)

62 "This is of course true. The sky-high valuations were irrational, and the drop was also irrational."

... If the valuation was irrational, wouldn't the correction be, by definition, rational? Or just not for that reason?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 29, 2025 06:32 AM (bss/y)

63 I'm kind of amused the left moved so fast to block President Trump from turning down the money spigot. It's almost like they think they're entitled to spend money however they want without having to account for where the cash goes.

Nah, can't be that, can it?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 29, 2025 06:32 AM (tT6L1)

64 I recall hearing an apocryphal story of an investor who survived the crash in 1929 because he got out of the market after being given investment advice by a shoeshine boy.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

An investor? Famously Rockefeller. Though an anecdote, it's a good story.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 29, 2025 06:32 AM (mlg/3)

65 Far too generous:

@EpochTimes 13s
Federal employees are being offered buyouts through a new ‘deferred resignation’ initiative, allowing them to resign while receiving pay until September.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 29, 2025 06:34 AM (mlg/3)

66 The hysteria over who's going to pick the crops if we deport all the illegals is some pretty good propaganda.

Democrats 1861 - Who will pick our cotton?

Democrats 2025 - Who will pick our vegetables?

Nothing has changed.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2025 06:31 AM (zmGDy)
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And President Trump's people are easily swatting that talking point by making that very point. They're really turning it back on the left. And the left has no real response because they're so used to the right cowering whenever a charge which resembles "racism" is made.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 29, 2025 06:35 AM (tT6L1)

67 Teacher was talking about that last night. Supposedly, Trump claimed that egg prices would drop when he took office. Had to restrain myself from pointing out that Biden promised to cure cancer if he was President.
Posted by: NR Pax

I would have had to drop that bon mot. Along with the fact that Shitpants swore there was no inflation and prices hadn't gone up.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2025 06:35 AM (zmGDy)

68 And President Trump's people are easily swatting that talking point by making that very point. They're really turning it back on the left. And the left has no real response because they're so used to the right cowering whenever a charge which resembles "racism" is made.
Posted by: blake

The left has no real response because it's true. Slavery then, slavery now.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2025 06:36 AM (zmGDy)

69 65 Far too generous:

@EpochTimes 13s
Federal employees are being offered buyouts through a new ‘deferred resignation’ initiative, allowing them to resign while receiving pay until September.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 29, 2025 06:34 AM (mlg/3)

aka 'your going away is more valuable to us than this money is.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 29, 2025 06:37 AM (bss/y)

70 aka 'your going away is more valuable to us than this money is.'
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 29, 2025 06:37 AM (bss/y)
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Don't go away mad, just go away.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at January 29, 2025 06:38 AM (6K6Eu)

71 Far too generous:

@EpochTimes 13s
Federal employees are being offered buyouts through a new ‘deferred resignation’ initiative, allowing them to resign while receiving pay until September.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 29, 2025 06:34 AM (mlg/3)

I thought they'd only be getting pay while they continued to work but they didn't have to RTO.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 29, 2025 06:39 AM (ExV1e)

72 Byeee...

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at January 29, 2025 06:40 AM (6K6Eu)

73 mornin yall

"Tech giants Microsoft and OpenAI are reportedly investigating whether data output from the ChatGPT maker's technology was secretly taken by a group linked to Chinese artificial intelligence startup DeepSeek.

Microsoft's security researchers observed individuals they believed to be connected to DeepSeek exfiltrating a large amount of data using the OpenAI's application programming interface (API), according to a report by Bloomberg News."

"Secretly taken" huh? You mean, like "stolen"?

I don't know what's dumber, artificial AI, or people getting scammed by artificial AI.

Posted by: fd at January 29, 2025 06:40 AM (vFG9F)

74 "Who will pick our crops?"
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Steven Miller demolished that argument. First off, "less than 1% of illegal immigrants work in agriculture" and, second, "President Trump supports a guest worker program for farm workers".

Fake Tapper was left flopping on the dock like a fish about to be gutted. What a slaughter.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 29, 2025 06:40 AM (aY7cL)

75 "Who will pick our crops?"

I hear Jim Acosta is available.

Posted by: fd at January 29, 2025 06:42 AM (vFG9F)

76 President Trump supports a guest worker program for farm workers".

Decades ago the US had a guest worker program for agricultural products. It was a rational decision then. It's a rational decision today.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at January 29, 2025 06:42 AM (Q8Bj8)

77 Fake Tapper was left flopping on the dock like a fish about to be gutted. What a slaughter.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 29, 2025 06:40 AM (aY7cL)
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I loved that exchange. Jake did not like it, at all. Jake has a greatly inflated opinion of himself and didn't like having his ego thoroughly punctured for all the world to see.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 29, 2025 06:43 AM (tT6L1)

78 I would have had to drop that bon mot. Along with the fact that Shitpants swore there was no inflation and prices hadn't gone up.

The one I did retort with was when Caroline Kennedy's tirade against Robert was talked about. So supposedly he raised birds of prey and fed them animals that had been ground up.

My answer: "I studied falconry for years. This is not unusual." I also pointed out that she supposedly knew all these bad things for decades but is only now speaking out because he's trying to work for Trump.

Posted by: NR Pax at January 29, 2025 06:43 AM (99eI0)

79 "Tech giants Microsoft and OpenAI are reportedly investigating whether data output from the ChatGPT maker's technology was secretly taken by a group linked to Chinese artificial intelligence startup DeepSeek.

Microsoft's security researchers observed individuals they believed to be connected to DeepSeek exfiltrating a large amount of data using the OpenAI's application programming interface (API), according to a report by Bloomberg News."

Wait'll they find out that their Chinese H1B people have been sending back code also.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 29, 2025 06:44 AM (ExV1e)

80 There was a good Mark Knopfler biography documentary I saw a couple of years ago, where he went through some of his tremendous picking methods. I recall he particularly loves a 1936 National metal guitar, and he talked about it for a bit.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 29, 2025 06:44 AM (aY7cL)

81 I am not anti-catholic but:

Enter keywords: catholic
Search complete. Displayed 100 (limit reached).
Taxpayer Money Spent: $3,344,561,881.10
We giving $3.4 Billion to Catholic Charities and Organizations.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 29, 2025 06:47 AM (gbOdA)

82 What you talk about "our clops" lound eye?

Posted by: The Chinese, buying up farmland left and right at January 29, 2025 06:47 AM (PiwSw)

83 In case anyone has missed it, Ubislop has a new character in Assassin's Creed: Shadows.

Don't think character is playable but it would even more fun if one could. Female, check. Japanese lower class clothing check, check. Morbidly obese, check. In British parlance she is probably 18 stone and caused a famine in her village.

Then there are clipping issues of Yasuke's teppo clipping through his helmet. Plus cherry blossoms and watermelons[?] in the same season.

But yes, this game is going to be totes a banger of a top seller. Totes.

Hahahaha.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2025 06:47 AM (Gol0p)

84 Wait'll they find out that their Chinese H1B people have been sending back code also.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 29, 2025 06:44 AM (ExV1e)

Yes consulted for a company that used Indian sub to write code and that code ended up in a competitors product.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 29, 2025 06:48 AM (gbOdA)

85 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 29, 2025 06:48 AM (u82oZ)

86 RFK loves falconry. Birds need feeding. Caroline is squeamish. All true statements, but these things make no waves in a confirmation process..

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 29, 2025 06:49 AM (Q4nxl)

87 I am not anti-catholic but:

Enter keywords: catholic
Search complete. Displayed 100 (limit reached).
Taxpayer Money Spent: $3,344,561,881.10
We giving $3.4 Billion to Catholic Charities and Organizations.
Posted by: rhennigantx

Here in Las Cruces, the Catholic charities are running more than a few stash houses for illegal aliens.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at January 29, 2025 06:49 AM (Q8Bj8)

88 Wait'll they find out that their Chinese H1B people have been sending back code also.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 29, 2025 06:44 AM (ExV1e)

Yes consulted for a company that used Indian sub to write code and that code ended up in a competitors product.
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 29, 2025 06:48 AM (gbOdA)

It is easily foreseeable by everyone except senior management and, in fairness to them, they just don't care because they'll already have milked all the bonuses out of company A and moved on to destroying company B as they work on their resume to be allowed into the WEF.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 29, 2025 06:50 AM (ExV1e)

89 LETITIA JAMES SUES TRUMP OVER FEDERAL AID FREEZE.

What is a day named after a god?

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 29, 2025 06:50 AM (gbOdA)

90 We giving $3.4 Billion to Catholic Charities and Organizations.
Posted by: rhennigantx

It's almost as if the organization is neither Catholic or a charity.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 29, 2025 06:51 AM (mlg/3)

91 We giving $3.4 Billion to Catholic Charities and Organizations.
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 29, 2025 06:47 AM (gbOdA)
----------------
3.4 billion reasons why Catholic charities support illegal immigration

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 29, 2025 06:51 AM (Q4nxl)

92 All true statements, but these things make no waves in a confirmation process..
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 29, 2025 06:49 AM (Q4nxl)

Well... not for a Democrat administration.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 29, 2025 06:51 AM (ExV1e)

93 Karoline Leavitt's husband is 32 years older than her.

Almost old enough to be her grandfather.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at January 29, 2025 06:51 AM (KiBMU)

94 Speaking the space program last night, it seems Beijing had another failure to launch and the debris fell on a village.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2025 06:52 AM (Gol0p)

95 Letitia James beat Fani Willis to the punch?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 29, 2025 06:52 AM (Q4nxl)

96 You can lay the 3.4 billion dollars of fed money to Catholic Charities at W's feet. People wonder how churches in the US got so bent out of all recognition? Look no further than W.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 29, 2025 06:52 AM (tT6L1)

97 Karoline Leavitt's husband is 32 years older than her.

Almost old enough to be her grandfather.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at January 29, 2025 06:51 AM (KiBMU)

Who cares? Older men/younger women was the way for the world for millennia.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 29, 2025 06:52 AM (ExV1e)

98 I think the biggest problem with the assassins creed game coming up is that the franchise is already dead. The formula is boring. Watch a choose your own adventure soap opera walking simulator for a couple hours, where every "choice" changes nothing, the characters are all valley girl uptalking simulacra of the valley girl uptalking writers (and share an identical worldview), and then occasionally do a bit of the same played out freerunning crap that every game since the first AC had for the last twenty years...

"Shove a black guy and a fat chick in it and make them lame and gay" was probably their escape plan for this doomed project.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 29, 2025 06:53 AM (+iIV1)

99 A few things I think are relevant. The size of the illegal alien population in the US is between 10% and 15% and is distorting a number of different aspects of the economy and the social fabric. A few areas impacted by illegal aliens: wage growth is depressed, billions of dollars that would be circulating in our economy is being sent back to the countries they came from, rental housing costs are sky high, welfare costs have skyrocketed, public schools are straining under the load of all these children that can't speak English, and we have imported and allowed violent multinational gangs gain a toehold the United States. Yeah!

These costs and the effects of the Biden administration blowing up the economy with their spending dwarf any additional increase in farm produce. What's really at risk? The Democrats plan to distort the voting population in their favor permanently when they begin to demand that there's nothing we can do but to make these people citizens.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at January 29, 2025 05:57 AM (Q8Bj

This. PDT and his admin need to highlight the massive leakage in our economy by paying illegals cash under the table to be sh

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at January 29, 2025 06:53 AM (OA79/)

100 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Top o ta mornin to ya, gov'nor.

Normal January temp feels like a heat wave.

Good news / Bad news:
Good:
Kansas has a legislative supermajority of Republican lawmakers in the entire Statehouse.
Bad:
Kansas has a legislative supermajority of Republican lawmakers in the entire Statehouse.
And a Democrat Governor.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 29, 2025 06:53 AM (u82oZ)

101 Speaking the space program last night, it seems Beijing had another failure to launch and the debris fell on a village.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2025 06:52 AM (Gol0p)

They should hire Sarah Jessica Parker.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 29, 2025 06:54 AM (ExV1e)

102 Medicaid payments are supposedly shut down? Now do EBT.

Posted by: fd at January 29, 2025 06:54 AM (vFG9F)

103 Challenger anniversary was yesterday. Ron McNair was supposed to play his saxophone whilst in orbit, music by Jean Michel Jarre.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCLEZM_N0K8

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2025 06:54 AM (Gol0p)

104 If I start a charity called "Holy Pure Christian Super Charity," why should anyone think it's A ) Christian and B ) a charity?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 29, 2025 06:57 AM (mlg/3)

105 Cuthbert the Witless

1% of illegal work in AG, mostly in meat plants.

Automation powered by diesel fuel has replaced them. Seen a combine? Huge. There are even tow behind laser weedkillers now, one of the biggest uses of labor.

Commercial farming is 10 times more productive than organic farming, when done by good farmers like Americans or the Dutch.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 29, 2025 06:57 AM (u82oZ)

106 104 If I start a charity called "Holy Pure Christian Super Charity," why should anyone think it's A ) Christian and B ) a charity?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 29, 2025 06:57 AM (mlg/3)

Only if you put ", Batman" at the end of the name.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 29, 2025 06:58 AM (+iIV1)

107 "Holy charity scam Batman!"

Like this?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2025 06:58 AM (Gol0p)

108 I'm 56. My wife is 28.

Posted by: meh at January 29, 2025 06:59 AM (N462N)

109 Anna Puma

All exploration has a price in lives.

But their sacrifices were not in vain.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 29, 2025 06:59 AM (u82oZ)

110
The USCCB issued a heart-tugging proclamation about Trump's immigration policies. I wonder if the reverend gentlemen are blind, uninterested or actually complicit in who these "poor migrants" are, how they're getting here or what happens to them when they arrive.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 29, 2025 06:59 AM (dxSpM)

111 meh

I'm 29, and my wife is 75.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 29, 2025 07:00 AM (u82oZ)

112 In local news, the Allman Brothers Memorial concert next month, featuring Warren Haynes, Derek Trucks, Jaimoe, and Chuck Leavell , have tickets going for higher than Duane on a Harley. Up to $7000 on line for tickets that cost $180. I guess I'll be skipping that one.

Posted by: fd at January 29, 2025 07:01 AM (vFG9F)

113 SaltyDog, you're a genius.

Posted by: meh at January 29, 2025 07:01 AM (N462N)

114

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at January 29, 2025 07:01 AM (EFZgU)

115 Commercial farming is 10 times more productive than organic farming, when done by good farmers like Americans or the Dutch.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 29, 2025 06:57 AM (u82oZ)

My hunch is "regenerative farming" will be maligned by all the crunchy greasy hippy dipshits pushing it now who don't understand it the moment Big Ag succeeds in adopting it. Yields will skyrocket. The synthetic fertilizer industry will implode (sorry, Ruussia). Corporate Greed will be at fault. How dare they succeed.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 29, 2025 07:01 AM (+iIV1)

116 Only if you put ", Batman" at the end of the name.
Posted by: Warai-otoko

It's a bit long now And Ace will never cite me.... * sad face *

Posted by: weft cut-loop Batman at January 29, 2025 07:02 AM (mlg/3)

117 here is a link to a database of spending:

https://joeisdone.github.io/award_search/

baptist
Taxpayer Money Spent: $161,766,724.23

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 29, 2025 07:02 AM (gbOdA)

118 Hillary Clinton.

Go home. You are drunk again, and still ugly to the bone.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 29, 2025 07:02 AM (u82oZ)

119 Can't help myself and I turned on Mark Knopfler and Emmy Lou playing "Right Now" and I have to keep the volume down. My bride is not an early riser.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 29, 2025 07:02 AM (Tb6Ry)

120 Today: 8 pound bag of plump, tasty oranges $5.

Posted by: 13times at January 29, 2025 07:04 AM (V/Uak)

121 Sky News Australia now has a segment on US Leftists losing their sh1t.

They have footage of Glenn Close, sweet Jesu does she look like a doddering senile old woman and talking like Nan Pelosi.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2025 07:04 AM (Gol0p)

122 Also, I'm the farthest thing from an actual Batman that one can be.

Posted by: weft cut-loop Batman at January 29, 2025 07:05 AM (mlg/3)

123 Good morning morons

A lot of stuff is being written about Chinese AI DeepSeek right now...

*eyes glaze over*

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 29, 2025 07:05 AM (RIvkX)

124 A bat who puts on a little human costume during the day to go commit crimes against other bats?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 29, 2025 07:08 AM (+iIV1)

125 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at January 29, 2025 07:08 AM (dg+HA)

126 G'mornin' everyone!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 29, 2025 07:08 AM (uX4GZ)

127 120 Today: 8 pound bag of plump, tasty oranges $5.
Posted by: 13times at January 29, 2025 07:04 AM (V/Uak)

And is you dont want us to use semi-slave illegal labor it may cost as much $5.29.

Posted by: Orange Growers at January 29, 2025 07:08 AM (gbOdA)

128 I will place a bet, on a Woodford Reserve shooter, that a groundbreaking Chinese innovation is a big lie, and the money is mostly stolen by corrupt CCP apparatchiks.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 29, 2025 07:08 AM (u82oZ)

129 Holy echolocation, Manbat!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 29, 2025 07:09 AM (+iIV1)

130 well, I don't wear hockey pads, so there's that.

Posted by: weft cut-loop Batman at January 29, 2025 07:09 AM (mlg/3)

131 >>Disclaimer: Ring ring! Banana milk!

Ring ring! Land shark!

Posted by: m at January 29, 2025 07:09 AM (v0TzN)

132 Orange Growers

Orange harvest are automated with tree shakers or robotic pickers on the big, well-funded farms.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 29, 2025 07:10 AM (u82oZ)

133 I love how The Street tanked Nvidia over Chinese lies and CCP spyware.

DeepSuck literally records your keystrokes, copies all the documents on your computer and has access to your microphone and camera.

I bet The Biden Crime Family is getting a 10pct cut.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 29, 2025 07:11 AM (0xXwd)

134 Of course Chyna would produce the Temu of ChatGPT

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at January 29, 2025 07:11 AM (Wx316)

135 Anna Puma

Let the libs / Hollywood rage on. We will leave them behind. 223 years of actual data on failure of their preferred governance system had taught them nothing.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 29, 2025 07:12 AM (u82oZ)

136 I bet The Biden Crime Family is getting a 10pct cut.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 29, 2025 07:11 AM (0xXwd)

They're gonna need a lot more toner.

Probably have to park the Camaro outside to make room for all the boxes, too.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 29, 2025 07:12 AM (+iIV1)

137 Artificial artificial intelligence.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 29, 2025 07:13 AM (+iIV1)

138 I bet The Biden Crime Family is getting a 10pct cut.

No Yellow!

Posted by: Hunter at January 29, 2025 07:13 AM (INqTa)

139 Have a great day, everyone.

We are winning.
Please remember, in the words of that great American scholar Mike Tyson "Every one has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.”

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 29, 2025 07:13 AM (u82oZ)

140 deepseek built an AI for $5.9 M
The cheapest system using year old Nvidia chips is around $100 M to build and $100 M to code.

China is asshoe.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 29, 2025 07:13 AM (gbOdA)

141 19 - Pixy put up a Dire Straits vid? ...
Can I trust He ( she? ) hasn't done some computerey thing
Posted by: TeeJ at January 29, 2025 05:12 AM (hht4k)

Pixy = he

Posted by: m at January 29, 2025 07:14 AM (v0TzN)

142 The US AI Czar David Sacks is stating the DeepCCP stole models and data from OpenAI(cash me outside).

Posted by: Candidus at January 29, 2025 07:15 AM (9ss2a)

143 24 Very nice of the Trump administration to acknowledge that the drones over New Jersey belong to the FAA.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at January 29, 2025 05:22 AM (Q8Bj

The drones over New Jersey were authorized by the FAA.

Posted by: m at January 29, 2025 07:17 AM (v0TzN)

144 They're all really just halfassed aristocrats pretending to be Marxists, aren't they?

"You can't raise all these chickens and grow all these oranges. Now people who aren't me can afford to just go out and buy chicken and oranges! At least import a slave class to do it so we can still know there's someone here we're better than."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 29, 2025 07:17 AM (+iIV1)

145 "Our Coffeehouse Code of Conduct is something most retailers have and is designed to provide clarity that our spaces – including our cafes, patios and restrooms – are for use by customers and partners," the company said.

The code of conduct also prohibits discrimination, violence, consumption of outside alcohol, smoking, drug use and panhandling, among other things, at its locations.

guess I have to take my 25 bux downtown now.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 29, 2025 07:17 AM (gbOdA)

146 I'm absolutely loving the story where OPM is being sued for alleged violation of the E-Government Act of 2002 in the creation of an email system that will bypass department HR departments and reach federal employees directly.

The Hill has impeccable sources: anonymous reddit and guesswork.

Their main objection: The database will contain PII.

Their real objection: Amanda Scales, former Elon employee is somehow involved.

This all comes in while the FedGov is cramming down the CTA on business owners. They are worried that a former Musk employee will have their government email while business owners have to give passport photos and home addresses to a government database.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at January 29, 2025 07:18 AM (a4flb)

147 Cal_OES (Office of Emergency Services)

“Phase One of debris clean up has begun! US EPA teams are on the ground in Los Angeles removing household hazardous materials - things that are toxic, ignitable, corrosive or reactive.

https://tinyurl.com/28b4zkvt Twitter

The video shows two EPA workers carefully dragging very small 16 inch spades through ash debris.

This is Newsom at his finest.

Posted by: 13times at January 29, 2025 07:19 AM (V/Uak)

148 "You can't raise all these chickens and grow all these oranges. Now people who aren't me can afford to just go out and buy chicken and oranges! At least import a slave class to do it so we can still know there's someone here we're better than."
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 29, 2025 07:17 AM (+iIV1)

It is amazing to me how many people want a ban or a tax or a limit on prosperity and wealth.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 29, 2025 07:20 AM (gbOdA)

149 >I bet The Biden Crime Family is getting a 10pct cut.

Not anymore.

Posted by: davidt at January 29, 2025 07:21 AM (i0F8b)

150 deepseek built an AI for $5.9 M
The cheapest system using year old Nvidia chips is around $100 M to build and $100 M to code.

This comes after the Biden Junta (whoever was running that) slapped trade barriers on China from legally obtaining advanced GPUs.

And Trump wants to piss away a half trillion on Manhattan Project level AI development.

Who is asking for all of this?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at January 29, 2025 07:22 AM (a4flb)

151 PDT is very smart to cram all this stuff in ASAP.

There is no air for Harris or Tim or one of the Bidens to breath mush less to say something.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 29, 2025 07:23 AM (gbOdA)

152 > The drones flying over New Jersey last month were research flights authorised by the FAA.
--------
In all the words in that article, not one describes what the Feds were doing with those drones that constituted "research."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 29, 2025 07:24 AM (Q4IgG)

153 And Trump wants to piss away a half trillion on Manhattan Project level AI development.

Who is asking for all of this?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at January 29, 2025 07:22 AM (a4flb)

We are not paying supposedly. Plus the money is not there.
Softbank has maybe $10 B cash. Oracle maybe the same. Unless they can find Berkshire or the like my guess is they will never have more than $50B.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 29, 2025 07:25 AM (gbOdA)

154 The video shows two EPA workers carefully dragging very small 16 inch spades through ash debris.

EPA "workers" are usually cruising gay and tranny bars after a grueling day of searching for kiddie pr0n.

None of them went to university to soak up tens of thousands of dollars in debt over "studies" degrees so that they end up turning dirt on a construction site.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at January 29, 2025 07:26 AM (a4flb)

155 43 The hysteria over who's going to pick the crops if we deport all the illegals is some pretty good propaganda.

Lost in the discussion over food prices increasing due to the loss of slave labor is the fact that demand will come down also once 10-20 percent of the population is gone.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 29, 2025 06:03 AM (ExV1e)

Oh, good point.

Posted by: m at January 29, 2025 07:27 AM (v0TzN)

156 > And Trump wants to piss away a half trillion on Manhattan Project level AI development.

Who is asking for all of this?
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The $500B would be better spent on resurrecting and reestablishing a national insane asylum network for the millions upon millions of clinically disturbed people that currently afflict society.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 29, 2025 07:27 AM (Q4IgG)

157 If a charter operator flying 737s with dense seating, let's say 200 passengers, charges a thou each to go and fetch a load of blacks or browns from some Caribbean island or anywhere in central America or along the S. America northern coast, every five flights into Ohio or Pennsylvania or anywhere brings in a thousand illegals, at a cost of . . .

. . . scribble, scribble . . .

One million dollars!

And there are a thousand millions in a billion. So if you give Catholic Charities one billion and the spend it all on transport, you get a million illegals.

Here in SW FL, the local Catholic Charities operation is up the road from us and we routinely see the parking lot full of blacks and browns, new arrivals, sitting all around on the parking lot, 200 or more, I'm guessing the latest planeload. They set them up and bus them to whatever farm camps get them, where they pack into brokedown house trailers eight to the bedroom.

We see them up at the Fort Myers outdoor flea market, the next day, pushing around shopping carts full of pillows, sheets, and bedding, and buying cheap clothing.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at January 29, 2025 07:28 AM (KiBMU)

158 I want to know why the EPA idiots need to go through every burned out house rather than just saying, "Okay, it's all bad, treat all the crap the same and dispose of accordingly."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 29, 2025 07:28 AM (tT6L1)

159 The Telegraph newspaper did a decent job writing about Karoline Leavitt, and didn't sensationalize her marriage. Daily Mail will do that, I am sure.

https://tinyurl.com/4styd5mh

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 29, 2025 07:29 AM (QxzJp)

160 We are not paying supposedly. Plus the money is not there.
Softbank has maybe $10 B cash. Oracle maybe the same. Unless they can find Berkshire or the like my guess is they will never have more than $50B.

Exactly. This is why I wonder why this story, on this topic, at this time? It sounds like yet another cold fusion story that just pops up when large investments in other energy development talk is happening.

Stated otherwise, if it wasn't for Trump's very public announcement of pissing away a half trillion dollars on AI, would this article and the subsequent Hair On Fire event in the tech stocks (who depend on AI advancement) ever have happened?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at January 29, 2025 07:29 AM (a4flb)

161 I want to know why the EPA idiots need to go through every burned out house rather than just saying, "Okay, it's all bad, treat all the crap the same and dispose of accordingly."

They are looking for valuables left behind by the fleeing residents.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at January 29, 2025 07:30 AM (a4flb)

162
JJ is here

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 29, 2025 07:30 AM (gbOdA)

163 The hysteria over who's going to pick the crops if we deport all the illegals is some pretty good propaganda.

Lost in the discussion over food prices increasing due to the loss of slave labor is the fact that demand will come down also once 10-20 percent of the population is gone.

No, what is lost in the conversation is how some lunatic and power mad government bureaucrat can periodically order that tens of millions of chickens, swine or cattle must be euthanized all at once because they think maybe a critter got a CoVid-19 Global Extinction virus.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at January 29, 2025 07:34 AM (a4flb)

164 I didn’t know DeepSeek thought it was ChatGPT when it was furst turned on, but considering how this Chinese AI came out of nowhere performing on par with ChatGPT it makes sense.

R1 also outperforms OpenAI’s newer -o1 model in some areas.

How long before researchers reveal that DeepSeek’s R1 model is basically a Chinese rip-off model trained by ChatGPT and -o1 with a few tweaks here and there?

R1 is only noteworthy because it was trained cheaply on older Nvidia GPUs and released open source. But it does light a fire under the asses of American AI companies because of the unique, more efficient and cost-effective way R1 was trained.

Because I think that’s where this is going.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at January 29, 2025 07:36 AM (6ydKt)

165 73 I don't know what's dumber, artificial AI, or people getting scammed by artificial AI.
Posted by: fd at January 29, 2025 06:40 AM (vFG9F)

artificial AI = artificial Artificial Intelligence?

Posted by: m at January 29, 2025 07:40 AM (v0TzN)

166 Real artificial AI hasn't been tried.

Posted by: Blue haired nose ring chick at January 29, 2025 07:49 AM (dg+HA)

167 It would be much easier to find people to fire by just looking for all the people who hit "Reply to All" to an email with a global distribution list on it. Particularly the ones who aren't smart enough to see it's a global list and say "Please remove me from this distro."

Yes, this recently happened. Over 125 emails like that hit my inbox. Over 3 days. Oy.

Posted by: GWB at January 29, 2025 07:59 AM (hzHvq)

168 133 DeepSuck literally records your keystrokes, copies all the documents on your computer and has access to your microphone and camera.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 29, 2025 07:11 AM (0xXwd)

Really? Copies all the documents on your computer?

Posted by: m at January 29, 2025 08:08 AM (v0TzN)

169 Dems in 1860 and Dems in 2025 : cheap, crop-picking labor is necessary to keep prices low .

At least they're consistent.

Posted by: LASue at January 29, 2025 09:29 AM (lCppi)

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