Ratcliffe Confirmed as CIA Director, 74-25; John Brennan and His Media Allies Whine About His Cancelled Security Clearance

Ratcliffe, one of the brave heroes who exposed the RussiaGate Hoax, has been confirmed.

Trump is meanwhile asking questions of "career civil servants" on the National Security Council, attempting to ferret out #Resistance types who will illegally impose a Bureaucrat's Veto on the duly-elected president of the United States.

NBC and the AP are scandalized! The Bureaucrat's Veto is the key to our system of government!

Incoming senior Trump administration officials have begun questioning career civil servants who work on the White House National Security Council about who they voted for in the 2024 election, their political contributions and whether they have made social media posts that could be considered incriminating by President-elect Donald Trump's team, according to a U.S. official familiar with the matter.
At least some of these nonpolitical employees have begun packing up their belongings since being asked about their loyalty to Trump -- after they had earlier been given indications that they would be asked to stay on at the NSC in the new administration, the official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive personnel matters.
Trump's pick for national security adviser, Florida Rep. Mike Waltz, in recent days publicly signaled his intention to get rid of all nonpolitical appointees and career intelligence officials serving on the NSC by Inauguration Day to ensure the council is staffed with those who support Trump's agenda.
A wholesale removal of foreign policy and national security experts from the NSC on Day 1 of the new administration could deprive Trump's team of considerable expertise and institutional knowledge at a time when the U.S. is grappling with difficult policy challenges in Ukraine, the Mideast and beyond. Such questioning could also make new policy experts brought in to the NSC less likely to speak up about policy differences and concerns.

LOL, fuck you.

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Waltz told Breitbart News last week that "everybody is going to resign at 12:01 on January 20." He added that he wanted the NSC to be staffed by personnel who are "100 percent aligned with the president's agenda."
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Alexander Vindman said in a statement Friday that the Trump team's approach to staffing the NSC "will have a chilling effect on senior policy staff across the government."
He added, "Talented professionals, wary of being dismissed for principled stances or offering objective advice, will either self-censor or forgo service altogether."
The two men were heralded by Democrats as patriots for speaking out and derided by Trump as insubordinate. Eugene Vindman in November was elected as a Democrat to represent Virginia's 7th Congressional District.

Go choke to death on a donut, Commando Bearclaw.

Fire the Disloyal Opposition.

Every single Republican was demanded to confess that Biden won the presidency for the past five years. Why should these Deep State Insurrectionists not be forced to confess that Trump is the duly-elected president and, as such, the Commander in Chief and Chief Foreign Policy Officer of the United States, and granted the power to make US foreign and military policy as he sees fit?

The CIA purposely kept intelligence from President Trump during his first administration, according to a senior CIA officer who was caught on a hidden camera.

This is called treason.

In a new film by @OKeefeMedia, a CIA officer bragged about hiding information from Trump.

"We… pic.twitter.com/OTpaVSYkx3
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) January 23, 2025

Meanwhile, Brennan and his media allies are complaining that his security clearance was revoked.

The NY Post:

"He misrepresented the facts in that executive order because it said that we had suggested that the Hunter Biden laptop story was Russian disinformation," Brennan griped to MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell.
"No, we said it was one of the hallmarks of Russian information operations, including the dumping of accurate information, which is what we said in that letter," he added.

Buffoonish propaganda rag USAToday:

In the letter, the former intelligence officials said they did not know if emails that were on a computer hard drive and purportedly described the Ukrainian and Chinese business activities of Hunter Biden were genuine or whether there was any Russian involvement in their release. But they said their expertise made them "deeply suspicious" that Moscow was behind the leak and attempting to influence the election. The content of the hard drive was provided to the New York Post by then-Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani and published by the tabloid newspaper.

They're rewriting the past, claiming these guys only said that the laptop might nor might not be disinformation.

USAToday seemed pretty sure this was Russian disinformation at the time, claiming the FBI was investigating if it was all a Ruskie "Smoke Bomb."

And that's what Brennan, Clapper, Comey et al. intended. The laptop lie was concocted precisely so that Joe Biden could cite it at his first debate with Trump.

The argument is that he didn't really lie to the public about the Hunter Biden laptop -- see, he didn't say it was Russian Disinformation, merely that it had "all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation."

Totally different!

Except, of course, it was known throughout the government that the laptop was 100% genuine. The FBI had confirmed this.

And then these traitors ran a disinformation propaganda operation against the people of the United States, telling their media allies to remove the hedge-words and caveats and just straight-up claim that the laptop was a Russian confabulation.

John Brennan, whined on MSNBC about the revocation of his security clearance for lying, and lied again (see video below).

He denied he and CIA goons said the Hunter laptop was "Russian disinformation."

Here's what POLITICO said after they fed the story to @NatashaBertrand. https://t.co/7SqAqSVu3p pic.twitter.com/dxJ3XXBfy5
— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) January 23, 2025

This is the Deep State Two-Step:

1, draft a propaganda statement which suggests the laptop is Russian Disinformation without explicitly committing to that fact, then

2, leak that statement to a stenographer fake reporter, like Natasha Bertrand, and tell that reporter "Oh absolutely it's a Russian hoax, we just can't say so because that would reveal Sources & Methods, but you can totally report that we're saying it's a hoax, because that's what we're really saying."

And then, when you're caught, go to

3, claiming you never askshually said, explicitly, that it was definitely a Russia Op so you should be allowed to keep your Grifter Security Clearance.

Except that their hand-picked stenographer claimed that's what they said, and the entire media amplified this message, and then never once clarified that they weren't saying it was a Russian op until they were caught.

J Michael Waller
@JMichaelWaller
A good counterintelligence investigator worth his salt would open a case on James Clapper, starting during his Air Force career, and all of those whom he protected and promoted in the military and the intelligence community.

Meanwhile, the Senate called the roll to vote on Hegseth.

Murkowski has already announced that she's a "no," of course. Mark Halperin reports that Collins and, get this, Bitch McConnell.

Remember when we thought that McConnell was mostly conservative, but acted liberal to protect his "majority making" liberal Republican senators? No, he's a liberal himself, just a grungy, wormy Dixiecrat. A lot of southern Democrats just flipped to the GOP because the Democrat Party was becoming increasingly unpopular in the south, while retaining their leftwing orientation.

They Gang of Three might have Thom Tillis on their side. He asked if the FBI background check on Hegseth was sufficient. Actually he asked if the report was as extensive as past FBI background checks. He's hinting that he doesn't think it's thorough enough.

Halperin interprets this as a warning to Trump or Hegseth to withdraw the nomination. Tillis is worried about defying MAGA yet again, and would like Trump to take his problem away.

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1 Harrumph.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at January 23, 2025 03:41 PM (DTX3h)

2 Lol

Posted by: Hawkpilot at January 23, 2025 03:41 PM (OKAVn)

3 Not a coincidence that Trump signed the declassification order after Ratcliffe was confirmed

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Mighty Fondler of MAGAshambas at January 23, 2025 03:42 PM (HYKHz)

4 "The President is entitled to the Cabinet he chooses."

A phrase I recall from EVERY Democrat Presidency.

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2025 03:42 PM (snN/i)

5 Trump has released video of signing the order declassifying JFK, RFK, MLK assassinations

Posted by: Methos at January 23, 2025 03:42 PM (Dnobf)

6 Hey I was briefly suspended by X for telling Fatty Ana Navarro to choke on a donut.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at January 23, 2025 03:42 PM (kTd/k)

7 well, at least top ten

Posted by: gnats local 678 at January 23, 2025 03:42 PM (CWTWj)

8 Where will we ever find new Experts to replace the old Experts?

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2025 03:44 PM (snN/i)

9 A wholesale removal of foreign policy and national security experts from the NSC on Day 1 of the new administration could deprive Trump's team of considerable expertise and institutional knowledge

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WOOOOOOOHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

***breathes***

WOOOOHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Mighty Fondler of MAGAshambas at January 23, 2025 03:44 PM (HYKHz)

10 "The laptop lie was concocted precisely so that Joe Biden could cite it at his first debate with Trump."

Treason.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at January 23, 2025 03:44 PM (8VyQQ)

11 >>>John Brennan and His Media Allies Whine About His Cancelled Security Clearance

You want us revoke your clearance again?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 23, 2025 03:45 PM (i24o9)

12 Halperin interprets this as a warning to Trump or Hegseth to withdraw the nomination. Tillis is worried about defying MAGA yet again, and would like Trump to take his problem away.

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Halperin's inside Democrat sources are obviously top notch.

I think he's just flinging poo here, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 03:45 PM (GBKbO)

13 i can hear at least one person i know saying that putin wants to meet with trump to tell trump what to say to zyylyynskyyy

Posted by: gnats local 678 at January 23, 2025 03:45 PM (CWTWj)

14 and i noodled

Posted by: gnats local 678 at January 23, 2025 03:45 PM (CWTWj)

15 My codpiece is dented from the inside.

Posted by: fd at January 23, 2025 03:46 PM (vFG9F)

16 Who else was a failed ambassador?

Joseph Kennedy Sr.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 23, 2025 03:46 PM (vBmjk)

17 I'm so tired of the phrase "chilling effect". Resonating through Vindman's éclair hole. Shaaaatup!

Posted by: banana Dream at January 23, 2025 03:46 PM (Y6IkP)

18 Why would neckless John Brennen need a security clearance?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at January 23, 2025 03:46 PM (kTd/k)

19 The Pentagon admitted they withheld things from Trump as well. When he made a statement about the Chinese spy balloons not happening on his watch they came out and said " yeah they did, we just didn't tell him"

Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2025 03:47 PM (KQk9m)

20 Why should these Deep State Insurrectionists not be forced to confess that Trump is the duly-elected president and, as such, the Commander in Chief and Chief Foreign Policy Officer of the United States, and granted the power to make US foreign and military policy as he sees fit?
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The answer is enumerated in the OrangeManBad Penumbra of the Constitution.

Posted by: ... at January 23, 2025 03:47 PM (mg05v)

21 Vindaloomon needs to be in a real remake of "Seven" with his wife.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 23, 2025 03:47 PM (vBmjk)

22 Thanks 9. Can't read shit now.

Posted by: ... at January 23, 2025 03:47 PM (mg05v)

23 I want to know about the drones

WHAT ABOUT THE DRONES

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Mighty Fondler of MAGAshambas at January 23, 2025 03:48 PM (HYKHz)

24 Brennan has all the hallmarks of a traitor.

Posted by: fd at January 23, 2025 03:48 PM (vFG9F)

25 15 My trunnion bulges.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at January 23, 2025 03:48 PM (8VyQQ)

26
Alternate post title:

New Boss at CIA, the Mockingbirds are Chirping a Fit!

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 23, 2025 03:48 PM (FLFnM)

27 {i]The argument is that he didn't really lie to the public about the Hunter Biden laptop -- see, he didn't say it was Russian Disinformation, merely that it had "all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation."

Totally different!

Except, of course, it was known throughout the government that the laptop was 100% genuine. The FBI had confirmed this.

And then these traitors ran a disinformation propaganda operation against the people of the United States, telling their media allies to remove the hedge-words and caveats and just straight-up claim that the laptop was a Russian confabulation.
===

They think the American people are literally too stupid to govern themselves.

Stupid people think everyone else is stupid too.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 23, 2025 03:48 PM (PxIx9)

28 That honeytrap video: "I work for the CIA". Jesus Christ.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 23, 2025 03:48 PM (CwhoI)

29 McConnel, Murk and Collins are the RINO 3 Stooges, but without the humor. I could swan in and poke their eyes with that neep-neep sound. So proud of their votes. Old mothball smelling coots.

The Dims are still hung over from the 20th and must feel like they are in a perpetual ping-pong Trump game of freaked out crouching defense. Thinking, constantly, "What is next?" Oh, idiot libs, you ain't seen nothing yet! He's just in the bullpen getting warmed up.

I hope you have fear and nether sweats while your hemorrhoids throb in the beat of one of the Sousa military marches. I hope you wake every morning, think for a second all is well, then remember just who is in charge now and have diarrhea...or as my son used to say, dire rear, to start your day. Then projectile vomit your Starbucks.

I LOVE that he is taking security clearances from traitors, which go back to GWB, that pompous asshole. It is no mystery why he could not get things done in his first administration with these bastards in every corner.

I was in a good mood before all this. I feel better now that I've had a cleansing cathartic fit.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 23, 2025 03:49 PM (gi+MR)

30 "Alexander Vindman said ...."

Every time you kick over a slimy Deep State rock of incompetence and corruption, this fat cocksucker slithers out like a diseased guinea worm. Seriously. Every single shitburger in DC has this toad taking a bite. I despise this cocksucker with the heat of a 100 suns.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 23, 2025 03:49 PM (iFTx/)

31
Get it?

Because the Fake News, the enemy of The People, are all part of Operation Mockingbird to disseminate Disinformation to the American People.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 23, 2025 03:49 PM (FLFnM)

32 "Spies Like Us" > CIA.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 23, 2025 03:49 PM (vBmjk)

33 A wholesale removal of foreign policy and national security experts from the NSC on Day 1 of the new administration could deprive Trump's team of considerable expertise and institutional knowledge at a time when the U.S. is grappling with difficult policy challenges in Ukraine, the Mideast and beyond.
__________________

Their considerable expertise and institutional knowledge led them to fuck up policy regarding Ukraine, the Mideast, and beyond.

God save us from the "experts."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2025 03:50 PM (YqDXo)

34 Pete better force all these scumbags to go on the record. I need to know who’s primary opponent I’m funding next year.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at January 23, 2025 03:50 PM (OKAVn)

35 Incoming senior Trump administration officials have begun questioning career civil servants

And they never ask a question you don't already know the answer to.

Posted by: t-bird at January 23, 2025 03:50 PM (1ilEC)

36 Remember the "experts" in DC never foresaw the USSR simply vanishing.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 23, 2025 03:50 PM (vBmjk)

37 "Tillis is worried about defying MAGA yet again, and would like Trump to take his problem away."

F that guy, in particular.

Posted by: Inogame at January 23, 2025 03:51 PM (53oGX)

38 The only thing worse than experts is "authorities".

Posted by: ... at January 23, 2025 03:51 PM (mg05v)

39 We no longer need a CIA. What we do need is a Muslim Overwatch And Investigation Department to watch over, deport and ban muslims from coming to this country. Kill their leaders overseas here and there to keep them at each others throats. They are the real enemy. Nuke a few of their places if they get randy like the rape gangs in england.

Posted by: Breaking Bad 2: Muslim Boogaloo at January 23, 2025 03:51 PM (R/m4+)

40 Cheri and Kindltot, if you are here - I just listened to Milei's whole speech on the WEF YouTube channel. Hooboy, that was awesome! Cheri, you were right, even better than last year's. Long live freedom, dammit!

Posted by: bluebell at January 23, 2025 03:51 PM (79pEw)

41 I wonder who told Vindman's wife it was a good idea to go on X and whine about not getting a pardon from Biden.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2025 03:51 PM (LkLld)

42 Not one vote in an election will go a Republican's way if they vote no on this cabinet pick.

They will, however, now have a very hostile primary to get through. With donors bolting.

All of this because some skank that couldn't just have a one night stand and move on. Good lesson to not stick your dick in crazy. Never worth it.

Posted by: Leupold at January 23, 2025 03:51 PM (4pwAx)

43 What is this garbage about keep a security clearance after leaving a job? They should lose it as soon as they are out. This should go for all parties.

Can you imagine a private company letting you know what is going on inside after you have left the company? The whole security clearances stuff is absurd.

Posted by: Decaf at January 23, 2025 03:51 PM (unUNN)

44 Horror: 2-year-old-child, 41-year-old man stabbed to death by Muslim migrant at German playground

Posted by: SMOD at January 23, 2025 03:51 PM (RHGPo)

45 >>>A wholesale removal of foreign policy and national security experts from the NSC on Day 1 of the new administration could deprive Trump's team of considerable expertise and institutional knowledge

Unless Trump's team is wanting to stab Israel in the back and sell nuclear secrets to Iran, I don't see much risk.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 23, 2025 03:52 PM (CwhoI)

46 A wholesale removal of foreign policy and national security experts from the NSC on Day 1 of the new administration could deprive Trump's team of considerable expertise and institutional knowledge at a time when the U.S. is grappling with difficult policy challenges in Ukraine, the Mideast and beyond. Such questioning could also make new policy experts brought in to the NSC less likely to speak up about policy differences and concerns.

-Ace

I think we can do without the experts who bungled Ukraine, Gaza, and nearly started WWIII and did start a recession.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 23, 2025 03:52 PM (n7h9X)

47 Her sense of entitlement?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 23, 2025 03:52 PM (vBmjk)

48 A wholesale removal of foreign policy and national security experts from the NSC on Day 1 of the new administration could deprive Trump's team of considerable expertise and institutional knowledge at a time when the U.S. is grappling with difficult policy challenges in Ukraine, the Mideast and beyond.
__________________

Their considerable expertise and institutional knowledge led them to fuck up policy regarding Ukraine, the Mideast, and beyond.

God save us from the "experts."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2025 03:50 PM (YqDXo)

Absolutely agree. To paraphrase W.F. Buckley, the first 100 people out of the Boston phone directory would give us better analysts. FFS.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at January 23, 2025 03:52 PM (0t1wa)

49 >>>Incoming senior Trump administration officials have begun questioning career civil servants

They presided over a decades long decline in U.S. prosperity and international standing, while the national debt exploded to near unsustainable levels.

Maybe we should bring out the comfy chair.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 23, 2025 03:52 PM (i24o9)

50 I'm sure this is threadbare and shopworn, right? LOLGF

Posted by: Deplorable Minion at January 23, 2025 03:52 PM (QSrLX)

51 My thinking on this may be flawed on this, but if Hesgeth's nomination is in trouble, then he most certainly is the right pick. That Ratcliffe had a much wider margin than Hesgeth despite the fact Ratcliffe was on the good guy's side on the Russia hoax, he might not be all that great a choice.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 23, 2025 03:53 PM (fs1hN)

52 What is it with these CIA guys who can’t handle one appletini without spilling their guts?

Posted by: Supreme Gentleman at January 23, 2025 03:53 PM (Umrme)

53 They Gang of Three might have Thom Tillis on their side. He asked if the FBI background check on Hegseth was sufficient. Actually he asked if the report was as extensive as past FBI background checks. He's hinting that he doesn't think it's thorough enough.

Halperin interprets this as a warning to Trump or Hegseth to withdraw the nomination. Tillis is worried about defying MAGA yet again, and would like Trump to take his problem away.

Absolutely not! If you want to do this, then do it and own it. No more hiding, you cockroaches.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 23, 2025 03:53 PM (xCA6C)

54 Experts > Authorities > Influencers > Marketers > Door-to-door Salesmen

Posted by: Dig gp Must at January 23, 2025 03:53 PM (8VyQQ)

55 BREAKING: Trump signs order to declassify JFK, RFK, and MLK Jr. files:

“A lot of people have been waiting for this for years. Decades … Everything will be revealed.”

Posted by: SMOD at January 23, 2025 03:53 PM (RHGPo)

56 Why does Ratcliffe sail by easily, but guys like Hegseth and Bondi get the full-court press? Serious question. Ratcliffe has to be at least as dangerous to the Deep State as Hegseth or Bondi. I assume it's just that Hegseth and Bondi are bright shiny objects more easily tied to Trump, and thus they must be destroyed if at all possible.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 23, 2025 03:53 PM (iFTx/)

57 nonpolitical employees

these saintly federal employees are above lowly partisan politics, existing only to grace our government with their completely unbiased graceful expertise

Posted by: brak at January 23, 2025 03:53 PM (jGJov)

58 As for Murkowski and Collins, and McConnell, "no" votes, ostracism should be their word of the day.

Posted by: Decaf at January 23, 2025 03:53 PM (unUNN)

59 Hail Trump.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 23, 2025 03:53 PM (aD39U)

60 Every time you kick over a slimy Deep State rock of incompetence and corruption, this fat cocksucker slithers out like a diseased guinea worm. Seriously. Every single shitburger in DC has this toad taking a bite. I despise this cocksucker with the heat of a 100 suns.
Posted by: Elric The Blade

Wow, don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel.

That was almost Y's Dice-worthy.

Posted by: Bulg at January 23, 2025 03:53 PM (77rzZ)

61 I said it LOOKED very much to me like a white horse with black stripes- NOT that it was a zebra.

Posted by: Don Black. Message: hit it at January 23, 2025 03:54 PM (AOsQT)

62 Alexander Vindman said in a statement Friday that the Trump team's approach to staffing the NSC "will have a chilling effect on senior policy staff across the government."

You know what would have a chilling effect? Losing weight. Maybe you wouldn't sweat as much on the witness stand.

Posted by: t-bird at January 23, 2025 03:54 PM (CFrOc)

63 "BREAKING: Trump signs order to declassify JFK, RFK, and MLK Jr. files"

Wow!

Posted by: Dig gp Must at January 23, 2025 03:54 PM (8VyQQ)

64 Who wants to listen to Lt. Colonel Staypuft Doughboy or his brother who's now in Congress. Neither one is worth a popcorn poot in a Texas windstorm.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at January 23, 2025 03:54 PM (cB7nX)

65 A wholesale removal of foreign policy and national security experts from the NSC on Day 1 of the new administration could deprive Trump's team of considerable expertise and institutional knowledge...

And there it is. Do you see it?
The "could".
It COULD deprive Trump's team.
Nice little bit of equivocation.
Frankly, if I were a deputy national security person I'd tell the media to eff off.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 23, 2025 03:54 PM (W/lyH)

66 I said it LOOKED very much to me like a white horse with black stripes- NOT that it was a zebra.
Posted by: Don Black. Message: hit it at January 23, 2025 03:54 PM (AOsQT)
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"It has all the characteristics of a zebra."

Posted by: bluebell at January 23, 2025 03:54 PM (79pEw)

67 "Alexander Vindman said ...."

Every time you kick over a slimy Deep State rock of incompetence and corruption, this fat cocksucker slithers out like a diseased guinea worm. Seriously. Every single shitburger in DC has this toad taking a bite. I despise this cocksucker with the heat of a 100 suns.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 23, 2025 03:49 PM (iFTx/)
______________

You echo my sentiments exactly. How did that fat little cocksucker ever achieve any prominence?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2025 03:54 PM (YqDXo)

68 Paul Sperry is reporting that Jake Sullivan advised NSC staffers to spy on and thwart Trump just as the Obama leftovers like Vindman and Ciamarella did last time around.

Please rescind sneaky Jake’s security clearance, if not pursue him for trying to oust a sitting president.
Enough of the coup BS!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 23, 2025 03:55 PM (Hkcdp)

69 44 Horror: 2-year-old-child, 41-year-old man stabbed to death by Muslim migrant at German playground
Posted by: SMOD at January 23, 2025 03:51 PM (RHGPo)

Why did Islamophobia do that?

Posted by: Supreme Gentleman at January 23, 2025 03:55 PM (Umrme)

70 John Brennan is a traitor who deserves a traitor's fate.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 23, 2025 03:55 PM (sAmhv)

71 >>BREAKING: Trump signs order to declassify JFK, RFK, and MLK Jr. files:

“A lot of people have been waiting for this for years. Decades … Everything will be revealed.”

I want Trump to do a weekly address like the Fireside Chat, where he sits at the Resolute Desk and reads out Freshly De-Classified Documents while sipping Diet Coke.

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2025 03:55 PM (snN/i)

72 56 Why does Ratcliffe sail by easily, but guys like Hegseth and Bondi get the full-court press? Serious question. Ratcliffe has to be at least as dangerous to the Deep State as Hegseth or Bondi. I assume it's just that Hegseth and Bondi are bright shiny objects more easily tied to Trump, and thus they must be destroyed if at all possible.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 23, 2025 03:53 PM (iFTx/)

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My guess?

Fundraising.

Hegseth was made into a bete-noir early, so resistance leads to donations. Bondi is pretty and blonde, feeding another subset of Democrat donors who'd be willing to donate (though the delay right now means a whole lot less to me than it does to others, Garland wasn't appointed until late March of 2021).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 03:55 PM (GBKbO)

73 I said it LOOKED very much to me like a white horse with black stripes- NOT that it was a zebra.
Posted by: Don Black. Message: hit it at January 23, 2025 03:54 PM (AOsQT)
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"It has all the characteristics of a zebra."

It identifies as a zebra.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 23, 2025 03:55 PM (xCA6C)

74 Mike from The Office is now your boss.

"This is happening!!!"

Posted by: eleven at January 23, 2025 03:55 PM (fV+MH)

75 Somebody needs to see if that hag Murkowski will float.

Posted by: fd at January 23, 2025 03:55 PM (vFG9F)

76 44 Horror: 2-year-old-child, 41-year-old man stabbed to death by Muslim migrant at German playground
Posted by: SMOD
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The only sensible solution is to ban AfD of course. And to not sell knives. Oh and ban X because of Elon's notsi salute.
- Germany

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 23, 2025 03:55 PM (fs1hN)

77 "non-political appointees"

So, they've never donated to a campaign or voted before, right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 03:56 PM (GBKbO)

78 I'm worried about the backlash to today's playground attack.

Posted by: ... at January 23, 2025 03:56 PM (mg05v)

79 We all knew that the a in Trump's first term, the gopE would be the biggest obstacle to getting an America First agenda through. Because fundamentally the gopE is America last, uniparty and the bureaucracy first!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at January 23, 2025 03:56 PM (17s+e)

80 And that's what Brennan, Clapper, Comey et al. intended. The laptop lie was concocted precisely so that Joe Biden could cite it at his first debate with Trump.

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53 douchebag spooks just happened to be in a room at the same time and thought that a little reported story about a presidential candidate's son's laptop was possibly a hoax and decided, Hey lt's pen a short letter that laptop few people know about might be a Russian hoax, so they just whipped something up, signed off on it, and sent it off to press.

What was this?
Spook bowling league night?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 23, 2025 03:56 PM (/lPRQ)

81 BREAKING: Trump signs order to declassify JFK, RFK, and MLK Jr. files:
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In his book Roger Stone asserts that LBJ was in on the killing of JFK, and that film footage is available that shows LBJ flinching *before* the shots were fired.

Stone also asserts that LBJ used murder-for-hire on 7 or 8 of his political enemies in Texas--essentially that LBJ was a serial killer. LBJ was tied to an assassin that liked to make deaths look like suicide by running a hose from the exhaust to the cab of a car, and several of LBJs enemies died under such circumstances over a 10-year period. There was no real "CSI" back in the day, nor an internet to allow small towns spread out across a state as big as Texas to *recognize* a crime spree, much less solve one.

Posted by: Crusader at January 23, 2025 03:56 PM (azSra)

82 >What is it with these CIA guys who can’t handle one appletini without spilling their guts?
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dude they're trying to get laid

Posted by: Don Black. Message: hit it at January 23, 2025 03:56 PM (AOsQT)

83 He added, "Talented professionals, wary of being dismissed for principled stances or offering objective advice, will either self-censor or forgo service altogether."

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Gee, I guess when they had the chance in the first administration they should have actually taken principled stances and offered objective advice instead of trying to run the show themselves by hiding information from the President, hamstringing him and slow-walking his orders, and backstabbing him every opportunity they had.

Oh well! Fuck off.

Posted by: Cave Johnson at January 23, 2025 03:56 PM (62tN4)

84 Alexander Vindman said in a statement Friday that the Trump team's approach to staffing the NSC "will have a chilling effect on senior policy staff across the government."
____________________

Tell me those were his last words. Lie, if necessary.

That little prick doesn't get it: we WANT a chilling effect on senior policy staff across the government.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2025 03:56 PM (YqDXo)

85 Their considerable expertise and institutional knowledge led them to fuck up policy regarding Ukraine, the Mideast, and beyond.

God save us from the "experts."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2025 03:50 PM (YqDXo)

Absolutely agree. To paraphrase W.F. Buckley, the first 100 people out of the Boston phone directory would give us better analysts. FFS.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at January 23, 2025 03:52 PM (0t1wa)

++++

It has gotten to the point where if I come across an article and it has the words "experts say", I immediately stop reading. I am not even kidding.

Posted by: washrivergal at January 23, 2025 03:56 PM (C53IZ)

86 Since Trump will never ask Brennan for advice, losing his security clearance seems like no loss at all.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 23, 2025 03:57 PM (aD39U)

87 it said that we had suggested that the Hunter Biden laptop story was Russian disinformation

I quote from the letter, "...our experience makes us deeply suspicious that the Russian government played a significant role in this case." You then went on to say, "There are a number of factors that make us suspicious of Russian involvement." Then you wrote five paragraphs listing all the "factors" that made you believe the laptop was Russian disinformation.

Yes, you suggested the laptop story was Russian disinformation.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 23, 2025 03:57 PM (Odg76)

88 "Alexander Vindman said in a statement Friday that the Trump team's approach to staffing the NSC "will have a chilling effect on senior policy staff across the government."

And your point is????

Posted by: Moki at January 23, 2025 03:57 PM (wLjpr)

89 Everybody is replaceable. Everybody.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 23, 2025 03:57 PM (D6PGr)

90 What is it with these CIA guys who can’t handle one appletini without spilling their guts?
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dude they're trying to get laid

Yet there are enormous conspiracies about JFK and aliens they have kept silent on for decades....

Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2025 03:57 PM (KQk9m)

91 GOPe is worse than democrat, much worse.

Posted by: Uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They do not kill at January 23, 2025 03:57 PM (gxokI)

92 The thing is that there's not much likelihood of Tillis getting primaried from the right - given the candidate pool in NC - and he knows that.

Posted by: Henry O at January 23, 2025 03:57 PM (X5Mi4)

93 i can hear at least one person i know saying that putin wants to meet with trump to tell trump what to say to zyylyynskyyy
Posted by: gnats local 678 at January 23, 2025 03:45 PM (CWTWj)

yeah the only way they can contact Trump is at a major summit phone call, not by the dozens to thousands of back channel contacts maintained.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 23, 2025 03:58 PM (n7h9X)

94 "Spies Like Us" > CIA.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 23, 2025 03:49 PM (vBmjk)

With PDT as Colonel Rhombus:

"Boys, it'd be a shame to have to kill you now".

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at January 23, 2025 03:58 PM (/HDaX)

95 @5

>>Trump has released video of signing the order declassifying JFK, RFK, MLK assassinations

The Cigarette Smoking Man's sphincter must be as tight as a farmer's daughters chastity belt right about now.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 23, 2025 03:58 PM (XV/Pl)

96 And seriously, why would anyone- anyone! - think Trump would take advice from the guy who triggered his impeachment?

The MSM is so silly, do they really think normies would appreciate Vindman’s unsolicited advice to the man he openly hates?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 23, 2025 03:58 PM (Hkcdp)

97 55 BREAKING: Trump signs order to declassify JFK, RFK, and MLK Jr. files:

“A lot of people have been waiting for this for years. Decades … Everything will be revealed.”
Posted by: SMOD at January 23, 2025 03:53 PM (RHGPo)

Oooh. Wait til people read seeEyeA, realize HWB was right there at the book place, yet denied it. There is a photo. Then see the Bushies run to their hide out in Paraguay (HWB purchased between 130k and 175k acres there and I wonder why).

I read recently that the SS DRIVER of the limo turned and shot JFK. There were brief blurry photos. Oswald was the stooge. I still wonder what Jack Ruby had to do with it (info is probably there but I haven't searched).

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 23, 2025 03:58 PM (gi+MR)

98 Trump signed an EO to declassify the JFK, RFK, and MLK files.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 23, 2025 03:58 PM (Odg76)

99 Trump's your Daddy now, kids.

And playtime's over.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 23, 2025 03:58 PM (wtvvX)

100 That honeytrap video: "I work for the CIA". Jesus Christ.

If it's that easy with our vaunted CIA, China and Russia already have every single secret of ours, including all the passwords.

Posted by: t-bird at January 23, 2025 03:58 PM (KtPtl)

101 Wasn't the whole letter thing set up by an active CIA asset or agent?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 23, 2025 03:58 PM (aD39U)

102 "Talented professionals ...
__________________

Begs the question, doesn't it?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2025 03:58 PM (YqDXo)

103 90 dude they're trying to get laid

Yet there are enormous conspiracies about JFK and aliens they have kept silent on for decades....
Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2025 03:57 PM (KQk9m)

=======

These dudes need to start lying about jobs they don't have.

"Yeah, I work in the AG's office, and I'm going to put thumb tacs on Bondi's chair when she comes in."
-CIA lackey who has never been to the DOJ offices

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 03:58 PM (GBKbO)

104 Wonder who Deep State stenographer/alleged reporter Natasha Bertrand will latch onto for info now that the 51 and others have been bounced out . Same with WAPO "reporter" David Ignatius. They'll have to kiss all new ass

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 23, 2025 03:59 PM (6v8aM)

105 54 Experts > Authorities > Influencers > Marketers > Door-to-door Salesmen
Posted by: Dig gp Must
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You may have typed that in backwards.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 23, 2025 03:59 PM (fs1hN)

106 "Alexander Vindman said in a statement Friday that the Trump team's approach to staffing the NSC "will have a chilling effect on senior policy staff across the government."
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"And it will affect their appetites, causing them to lose weight."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2025 03:59 PM (YqDXo)

107 28 That honeytrap video: "I work for the CIA". Jesus Christ.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 23, 2025 03:48 PM (CwhoI)

That's one of the biggest take aways from the Okeefe videos is just how easy and effective Honeytrap operations are.
I wonder if the Russians and Chinese know about this.

Posted by: Reforger at January 23, 2025 03:59 PM (xcIvR)

108 He's worried about the chilling effect because donuts go stale in the fridge.

Posted by: ... at January 23, 2025 03:59 PM (mg05v)

109 > Everybody is replaceable. Everybody.

The graveyard is full of irreplaceable people.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 23, 2025 03:59 PM (Odg76)

110 92 The thing is that there's not much likelihood of Tillis getting primaried from the right - given the candidate pool in NC - and he knows that.
Posted by: Henry O at January 23, 2025 03:57 PM (X5Mi4)

His insider training went away pretty quick... so fast he took back his resignation.

Posted by: Inogame at January 23, 2025 03:59 PM (53oGX)

111 Since Trump will never ask Brennan for advice, losing his security clearance seems like no loss at all.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 23, 2025 03:57 PM (aD39U)

He will lose his cushy job at CNN in nothing flat

Posted by: Oldcat at January 23, 2025 03:59 PM (n7h9X)

112 As a commenter here said Security clearance is a privilege not a right.

Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2025 03:59 PM (fwDg9)

113 36 Remember the "experts" in DC never foresaw the USSR simply vanishing.
Posted by: Anna Puma

Yes, I 'memba! The Soviet Union was here to stay and we must work with them said the IC 'experts'. About a week later, the Berlin Wall fell and the USSR a year or so later.

'Experts'

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 23, 2025 03:59 PM (sAmhv)

114 The world will miss the Vindmans like a dog will miss a tapeworm.

Posted by: Sifty Boones at January 23, 2025 03:59 PM (k6go2)

115 Zelensky Mulled Lining Melania’s Pockets to Win Over Skeptic Trump

... wonder how many in the Biden Administration took him up on such a deal

Posted by: SMOD at January 23, 2025 03:59 PM (RHGPo)

116 Ace, you are kickin' arse today with your posts. Thanks.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 23, 2025 03:59 PM (gi+MR)

117 Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 23, 2025 03:58 PM (gi+MR)

I love your nic.

Posted by: Bulg at January 23, 2025 03:59 PM (77rzZ)

118 Fire the Disloyal Opposition.

Well...I'd go a step further they should be prosecuted

Posted by: 18-1 at January 23, 2025 04:00 PM (t0Rmr)

119 Did these fake Republicans vote for Austin? Of course they did. They should be kicked out of the Republican Party.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 23, 2025 04:00 PM (D6PGr)

120 The Cigarette Smoking Man's sphincter must be as tight as a farmer's daughters chastity belt right about now.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 23, 2025 03:58 PM (XV/Pl)
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You couldn't pull a needle out of his ass with a tractor right about now.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2025 04:00 PM (YqDXo)

121 8 Where will we ever find new Experts to replace the old Experts?
Posted by: garrett
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AI trained on AOS comment section.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 04:00 PM (ctrM5)

122 I thought I read that Brennan said he already didn't have one

Posted by: SMOD at January 23, 2025 04:01 PM (RHGPo)

123 The ghost of Jesse Helms needs to pay a visit to Thom Tillis and scare that MFer into behaving like an actual conservative senator from NC.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at January 23, 2025 04:01 PM (Vyll1)

124 Did these fake Republicans vote for Austin? Of course they did. They should be kicked out of the Republican Party.
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They voted for a DEI Supreme Court nominee who admitted under oath that she didn't know what a woman is.

Posted by: Crusader at January 23, 2025 04:01 PM (azSra)

125 >>I read recently that the SS DRIVER of the limo turned and shot JFK.

This has all the Hallmarks of it being 'Not a Thing'.

Seriously.
There is no indication, ever, anywhere that this occurred.

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2025 04:01 PM (snN/i)

126 En Fuego!

Posted by: that guy that shouts en feugo at January 23, 2025 04:01 PM (1p+IG)

127 Btw our human intelligence has always been terribly handed. The US was late to the game and bad at it. Electronic intelligence gathering, satellite intel we excel in. Even just a few years ago every CIA asset in China was compromised and neutralized.

Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2025 04:01 PM (KQk9m)

128 Trump has released video of signing the order declassifying JFK, RFK, MLK assassinations
Posted by: Methos at January 23, 2025 03:42 PM (Dnobf)

You know, I never thought I would see that.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2025 04:01 PM (D7oie)

129 Their considerable expertise and institutional knowledge led them to fuck up policy regarding Ukraine, the Mideast, and beyond.

God save us from the "experts."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2025 03:50 PM (YqDXo)

Yup, the experts were so worried about Assad letting a pipeline go through Syria... and still giving Russia a Naval Port.... that they gave Syria to ISIS.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 23, 2025 04:01 PM (QAkQ3)

130 117 Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 23, 2025 03:58 PM (gi+MR)

I love your nic.
Posted by: Bulg at January 23, 2025 03:59 PM (77rzZ)

Old supermodels need to vent somewhere. Blows a kiss.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 23, 2025 04:01 PM (gi+MR)

131 Fascinating article in the New York Times, of all places, where Marc Andreessen, the founder of Netscape, explains why Silicon Valley is swinging to Trump.

In summary, under Clinton/Gore and during Obama's first term, the Democrats loved tech, and tech loved the Democrats.

But a couple of things happened in Obama's second term - the elite schools that tech firms hired from started graduating a lot of people who wanted to overthrow capitalism. These Red Guards might have been only 20% of the workforce, but intimidated 60% more, so you had 80% of your workforce indifferent to the success of the firm, but focused on woke goals instead.

Second, the government started going after tech - they did their best to crush the people and startups working on crypto, via debanking and other forms of harassment, and the government made it clear that it intended to completely control artificial intelligence.

Worth a read.

https://archive.is/CmqUp#selection-4563.0-4563.52

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 23, 2025 04:01 PM (uxCna)

132 Shorter Brennan: It depends on what the meaning of “is’ is

Oh, you technically didn’t say that thing you know people would assume you said thanks to legalistic prevarication? Trump doesn’t care.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 23, 2025 04:01 PM (Hkcdp)

133 USAToday seemed pretty sure this was Russian disinformation at the time, claiming the FBI was investigating if it was all a Ruskie "Smoke Bomb."

None of the Biden scandals looked at all like classic Russian disinformation.

The two best known Russian disinformation examples are:

The CIA invented crack to kill/suppress black people
Global Warming

Posted by: 18-1 at January 23, 2025 04:01 PM (t0Rmr)

134 The CIA/FBI will say the RFK, JFK and MLK files were left out back, they got wet and dissolved. No backups. Swearsies

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 23, 2025 04:01 PM (6v8aM)

135 I read recently that the SS DRIVER of the limo turned and shot JFK.

That sounds unlikely. Wouldn't everyone have seen it?

Posted by: Bulg at January 23, 2025 04:01 PM (77rzZ)

136

"Alexander Vindman said in a statement Friday that the Trump team's approach to staffing the NSC "will have a chilling effect on senior policy staff across the government."
_______________

"And it will affect their appetites, causing them to lose weight."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2025 03:59 PM (YqDXo)

Bearclaw, a Ukrainian plant, surely is the one you want to go to for the opinion.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 23, 2025 04:02 PM (n7h9X)

137 124 Did these fake Republicans vote for Austin? Of course they did. They should be kicked out of the Republican Party.
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They voted for a DEI Supreme Court nominee who admitted under oath that she didn't know what a woman is.
Posted by: Crusader at January 23, 2025 04:01 PM (azSra)

=====

Not even Lindsay Graham voted for her. That's how bad Jackson was.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 04:02 PM (GBKbO)

138 I'm in Virginia's 7th District...

This fucking guy's going to 'represent' me for YEARS.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at January 23, 2025 04:02 PM (FAbrK)

139 I wonder if the Russians and Chinese know about this.

Anna Chapman and Fang Fang or Yum Yum or whatever that other one's name was say they've never heard of such a thing

Posted by: brak at January 23, 2025 04:02 PM (jGJov)

140 The graveyard is full of irreplaceable people.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 23, 2025 03:59 PM (Odg76)
_____________

Classic line from de Gaulle.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2025 04:02 PM (YqDXo)

141 I said it LOOKED very much to me like a white horse with black stripes- NOT that it was a zebra.
Posted by: Don Black. Message: hit it at January 23, 2025 03:54 PM (AOsQT)
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"It has all the characteristics of a zebra."
It identifies as a zebra.

On further reflection, I withdraw this comment, since you can be assured that anyone identifying as a zebra has absolutely no zebra-esque qualities whatsoever.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 23, 2025 04:02 PM (xCA6C)

142 If it's that easy with our vaunted CIA, China and Russia already have every single secret of ours, including all the passwords.
Posted by: t-bird
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Of course they do, secrecy laws are designed to protect the government from the peasants. Not to protect the peasants.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 04:02 PM (ctrM5)

143 We no longer need a CIA. What we do need is a Muslim Overwatch And Investigation Department to watch over, deport and ban muslims from coming to this country. Kill their leaders overseas here and there to keep them at each others throats. They are the real enemy. Nuke a few of their places if they get randy like the rape gangs in england.

Posted by: Breaking Bad 2: Muslim Boogaloo at January 23, 2025 03:51 PM (R/m4+)

Hell
yeah.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 23, 2025 04:02 PM (VwHCD)

144
Yes, I 'memba! The Soviet Union was here to stay and we must work with them said the IC 'experts'. About a week later, the Berlin Wall fell and the USSR a year or so later.

'Experts'

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 23, 2025 03:59 PM (sAmhv)

++++

Retired military experts swore up and down that the Ukraine/Russian war would be over in a matter of a few weeks.

Posted by: washrivergal at January 23, 2025 04:02 PM (C53IZ)

145 I love the size of the box on Trump's desk holding the pens.
Lots more signing to do.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 23, 2025 04:03 PM (W/lyH)

146 Even just a few years ago every CIA asset in China was compromised and neutralized.

Under John Brennan, who of course suffered no consequences for that.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 23, 2025 04:03 PM (uxCna)

147 Alexander Vindman said in a statement Friday that the Trump team's approach to staffing the NSC "will have a chilling effect on senior policy staff across the government."
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Gee, Alex, that is, after a fashion, pretty much the point. Say, you have a bit of sugary dough there on your chin.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 23, 2025 04:03 PM (XeU6L)

148 Watching Trump take numerous questions and answering in depth. Karoline Leavitt is not going to have much of a job, Trump is doing all his own press work.

Posted by: Decaf at January 23, 2025 04:03 PM (unUNN)

149 Not even Lindsay Graham voted for her. That's how bad Jackson was.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 04:02 PM (GBKbO)
______________________

Insert my usual rant here.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2025 04:03 PM (YqDXo)

150 "I read recently that the SS DRIVER of the limo turned and shot JFK."

I figured it was Jackie. It's always the last person you'd suspect.

(Too soon?)

Posted by: Dig gp Must at January 23, 2025 04:03 PM (8VyQQ)

151 >>>BREAKING: Trump signs order to declassify JFK, RFK, and MLK Jr. files

I get a 'Capone's Vault' vibe about that stuff.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 23, 2025 04:03 PM (CwhoI)

152 MTG's frontal verbal assault on the reporter over J6 yesterday or today was beautiful. More. Stop pretending they are in any way legitimate or have any right to interrogate you. Make every moment with them about their vicious dishonesty and total incompetence. Make them the issue.

Posted by: Ordinary American at January 23, 2025 04:03 PM (ZlOcj)

153 I read recently that the SS DRIVER of the limo turned and shot JFK.

That sounds unlikely. Wouldn't everyone have seen it?
Posted by: Bulg at January 23, 2025 04:01 PM (77rzZ)

it was suppressed!

That was one element in an old joke about it, I think in an old National Lampoon that everyone shot JFK.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 23, 2025 04:03 PM (n7h9X)

154 Not only did US intelligence not see the fall of the Soviets coming they predicted Soviet GDP would surpass the US by the mid 90's iirc

Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2025 04:04 PM (KQk9m)

155 Trump didn't revoke their security clearance.

He just revoked all the hallmarks of their security clearance.

See John?
What are you whining about?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 23, 2025 04:04 PM (2k0oQ)

156 147 Alexander Vindman said in a statement Friday that the Trump team's approach to staffing the NSC "will have a chilling effect on senior policy staff across the government."

Chill, baby, Chill.

Posted by: Ordinary American at January 23, 2025 04:04 PM (ZlOcj)

157 >>@TrumpWarRoom
·
>>14m
🚨 BREAKING: President Donald J. Trump grants pardons to peaceful pro-life protesters prosecuted by the Biden administration over exercising their First Amendment rights.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2025 04:04 PM (LkLld)

158 The two best known Russian disinformation examples are:

The CIA invented crack to kill/suppress black people
Global Warming

Posted by: 18-1 at January 23, 2025 04:01 PM (t0Rmr)
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J. Edgar Hoover wore petticoats.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2025 04:04 PM (YqDXo)

159 105 You're right, it needs some work.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at January 23, 2025 04:04 PM (8VyQQ)

160 I'm skeptical about Ratcliffe. Trump has had good instincts this go around appointing people to be in charge of institutions they have been targeted by. Ratcliffe is not that. Plus, Ratcliffe was in charge of DNI when the intel community was trying to screw Trump.

The fact that so many Dems voted to confirm him is not a mark in his favor.

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at January 23, 2025 04:04 PM (V6W16)

161
Seriously.
There is no indication, ever, anywhere that this occurred.
Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2025 04:01 PM (snN/i)

I saw a blurry photo a few weeks ago. Who the hell knows at this point, but I believe you. It was very brief couple of blurry photos and with a pistol. Possibly AI.

Seeing as how the dam bullet in the coffin was vanished en route to DC, who knows?

The wound itself, showing his head partially blown off would indicate it came from behind instead, eh?

I want to know before I croak.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 23, 2025 04:04 PM (gi+MR)

162 Even just a few years ago every CIA asset in China was compromised and neutralized.
Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2025 04:01 PM (KQk9m)

Something something Hitlery's bathroom server something.

Posted by: Reforger at January 23, 2025 04:04 PM (xcIvR)

163 On topic of Texas windbags, A lot of southern Democrats just flipped to the GOP because the Democrat Party was becoming increasingly unpopular in the south, while retaining their leftwing orientation.

The Speaker of the House in Texas is Dustin Burrows. He is Speaker because he got elected by Democrats, with a few RINOs. 55 actual conservatives voted against Burrows. They are outnumbered by Democrats and fakes. This happened with the drunk Phelan and has happened again.
And it is going to happen again, over and over, as long as Republican voters don't pay attention in primaries.

Posted by: gKWVE at January 23, 2025 04:05 PM (gKWVE)

164
Worth a read.

https://archive.is/CmqUp#selection-4563.0-4563.52
Posted by: The ARC of History!

Read it last night in an insomnia attack. I agree it is worth reading. Douthat comes across as always as an GOPe establishment ass not worthy of questioning Marc Andreessen.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 04:05 PM (ctrM5)

165 smoke out Tillis, he is less than worthless and has been for years

Posted by: DanMan at January 23, 2025 04:05 PM (8uzBS)

166 Thom is a fhag.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 23, 2025 04:05 PM (2UnvF)

167 Wasn't Reagan called the great communicator? I think Trump is about to overtake him. I understand why he does it, he has a lot to say and make his stands clear to the people.

Posted by: Decaf at January 23, 2025 04:05 PM (unUNN)

168 Not only did US intelligence not see the fall of the Soviets coming they predicted Soviet GDP would surpass the US by the mid 90's iirc

Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2025 04:04 PM (KQk9m)
___________________

The list of things they missed is very long indeed.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2025 04:06 PM (YqDXo)

169 Alexander Vindman said in a statement Friday that the Trump team's approach to staffing the NSC "will have a chilling effect on senior policy staff across the government."

What sort of world is it where Lieutenant Colonels can't sabotage the President?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 23, 2025 04:06 PM (uxCna)

170 Anna Chapman and Fang Fang or Yum Yum or whatever that other one's name was say they've never heard of such a thing
Posted by: brak

I volunteer to go to Russia and question Anna Chapman about it directly. Because I'm a giver that way.

Posted by: Bulg at January 23, 2025 04:06 PM (77rzZ)

171 That was one element in an old joke about it, I think in an old National Lampoon that everyone shot JFK.
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"Well after all it was you and me!"

Posted by: The Rolling Stones at January 23, 2025 04:06 PM (azSra)

172 Wasn't Reagan called the great communicator? I think Trump is about to overtake him. I understand why he does it, he has a lot to say and make his stands clear to the people.

Posted by: Decaf at January 23, 2025 04:05 PM (unUNN)
_________________

Trump > Reagan.

Trump surpassed Reagan long ago.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2025 04:06 PM (YqDXo)

173 "It has all the characteristics of a zebra."
Posted by: bluebell at January 23, 2025 03:54 PM (79pEw)

"we heard hoofbeats, and drew the best conclusion out of an excess of caution"

Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2025 04:06 PM (D7oie)

174 A wholesale removal of foreign policy and national security experts from the NSC on Day 1 of the new administration could deprive Trump's team of considerable expertise and institutional knowledge

As important as it can be to have institutional knowledge - if all of your institutional knowledge makes your every decision a bad one, perhaps it's time to get rid of it and start fresh.

With fresh information and fresh eyes.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at January 23, 2025 04:07 PM (hB7mE)

175 of all people I think Lindsey Graham knows best what a penis looks like.

Posted by: gKWVE at January 23, 2025 04:07 PM (gKWVE)

176 Another shocking thing about these honeytrap stings is that they take place in public settings -- usually restaurants or bars -- where there are dozens of people who can overhear the conversation. These dimwit government retards aren't even trying to conceal what they're blabbing.

Oh and the video above has this fat fuck Vindman-like toad (presumably) on a date with a disproportionately attractive and much younger Asian lady. (You can't see her face, but she is very nicely dressed and looks to have a nice body).

Was that not a huge red flag to this dunce? A disproportionately attractive younger woman is very interested in your career and specifically the CIA's reol with Trump? She's even holding up his fucking ID card to the hidden camera! You'd have to be the dumbest horndog ever not to recognize some shit was up.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 23, 2025 04:07 PM (iFTx/)

177 Alexander V is a punk. The end.

Posted by: Piper at January 23, 2025 04:07 PM (ZdaMQ)

178 Trump just signed EO pardoning the pro-life activists!

I.love this man.

Posted by: mpfs at January 23, 2025 04:07 PM (DTxOl)

179 >>The wound itself, showing his head partially blown off would indicate it came from behind instead, eh?

You should checkout America's Untold Stories on Youtube. They have a pretty cohesive breakdown of the knowns and unknowns for all of the players involved as well as of the event itself.

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2025 04:07 PM (snN/i)

180 What's in place to prevent the CIA from doing another op on the US citizens by having a fake set of secret docs on the JFK assassination. Ok, ok, you guys aren't buying Oswald as shooter? How about... it was aliens!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 23, 2025 04:08 PM (fs1hN)

181 kind of OT but its one of my pet peeves along with news readers.

You know what other professional experts can be replaced with no real consequences?

Professional coaches and scouts. you can list hundreds of sure winners that turned out to be failures and hundreds of over looked talent that became super stars.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 23, 2025 04:08 PM (D6PGr)

182 153 I read recently that the SS DRIVER of the limo turned and shot JFK.

That sounds unlikely. Wouldn't everyone have seen it?
Posted by: Bulg
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Some claims that the SS agent behind Kennedy had an AD from a CAR-15 that occurred after the first gunshot rang out. So the story goes, he was trying to respond to the threat from whoever was shooting a Carano at Kennedy. It is out there somewhere along with the grassy knoll, etc.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 04:08 PM (ctrM5)

183 "A wholesale removal of foreign policy and national security experts from the NSC on Day 1 of the new administration could deprive Trump's team of considerable expertise and institutional knowledge at a time when the U.S. is grappling with difficult policy challenges in Ukraine, the Mideast and beyond. "

That was parody, right? Trying to be funny, tongue-in-cheek?

Oh, NBC. No, they are dead serious. Where would be be without our experts?

Posted by: Ripley at January 23, 2025 04:08 PM (GUOwU)

184 I believe declassifying the JFK assassination files was also a personal promise President Trump made to RFK Jr.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 23, 2025 04:08 PM (tT6L1)

185 "Alexander Vindman said in a statement Friday that the Trump team's approach to staffing the NSC "will have a chilling effect on senior policy staff across the government."

So would a job in Greenland.

Posted by: t-bird at January 23, 2025 04:08 PM (KBusA)

186 >>"we heard hoofbeats, and drew the best conclusion out of an excess of caution"

"I could elaborate further...but, Sources and Methods, you know?"

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2025 04:08 PM (snN/i)

187 92 The thing is that there's not much likelihood of Tillis getting primaried from the right - given the candidate pool in NC - and he knows that.
Posted by: Henry O at January 23, 2025 03:57 PM (X5Mi4)

Any primary challenger Trump/MAGAworld wanted to get behind would have a good shot, but Trump always endorses GOP incumbents in primaries, no matter how much they screw him over.

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at January 23, 2025 04:08 PM (V6W16)

188 Retired military experts swore up and down that the Ukraine/Russian war would be over in a matter of a few weeks.
Posted by: washrivergal at January 23, 2025 04:02 PM (C53IZ)

Yeah but they said Russia would WIN. Then they could claim that Russia said it, and now they were in big trouble and were losing.

They also claimed that in the NATO big offensive to the coast in 2003 that they should be there in 4 days. 80 miles through three levels of fortifications and capturing three cities. note, they didn't get that far. They got 0 miles in 4 months.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 23, 2025 04:09 PM (n7h9X)

189 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2025 04:04 PM (YqDXo)

Yes. There seem to be a lot of people who believe G. Edgar Hoover was a cross dresser. What is the actual evidence for that?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 23, 2025 04:09 PM (MQJVv)

190 of all people I think Lindsey Graham knows best what a penis ~~looks~~ tastes like.

* Suggested edit

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 23, 2025 04:09 PM (a1415)

191 182 153 I read recently that the SS DRIVER of the limo turned and shot JFK.

That sounds unlikely. Wouldn't everyone have seen it?
Posted by: Bulg
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Some claims that the SS agent behind Kennedy had an AD from a CAR-15 that occurred after the first gunshot rang out. So the story goes, he was trying to respond to the threat from whoever was shooting a Carano at Kennedy. It is out there somewhere along with the grassy knoll, etc.
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 04:08 PM (ctrM5)

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I suspect that the most we'll find out is that the CIA paid the mob to kill Oswald because Oswald was some kind of paid informant that went off grid, or something.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 04:09 PM (GBKbO)

192 dude they're trying to get laid
Posted by: Don Black. Message: hit it at January 23, 2025 03:56 PM

So say we all!

Posted by: Messrs. Harris, Behar, and Murkowski at January 23, 2025 04:09 PM (a3Q+t)

193 "A wholesale removal of foreign policy and national security experts from the NSC on Day 1 of the new administration could deprive Trump's team of considerable expertise and institutional knowledge at a time when the U.S. is grappling with difficult policy challenges in Ukraine, the Mideast and beyond. "

That was parody, right? Trying to be funny, tongue-in-cheek?

Oh, NBC. No, they are dead serious. Where would be be without our experts?

Posted by: Ripley at January 23, 2025 04:08 PM (GUOwU)
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Yeah, I thought that was a joke, too. They worked to strike down the king only to have him return to wreak vengeance.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 23, 2025 04:09 PM (tT6L1)

194 Retired military experts swore up and down that the Ukraine/Russian war would be over in a matter of a few weeks.
Posted by: washrivergal at January 23, 2025 04:02 PM (C53IZ)

Every war is over by Christmas.

The thing is, nobody gets told *which* Christmas the war ends.

Posted by: Thrawn at January 23, 2025 04:10 PM (9Ovst)

195 Bluebell, Milei is a good speaker, and he is consistent, if a bit abrasive.
He also has the tiger by both ears and is trying to teach it to sit, and for the moment he has a loyal cabinet who know they are next and care what happens to the country.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2025 04:10 PM (D7oie)

196
Remind me again what the fbi used to tell PDT when he wanted to declassify docs?

They'd reveal "methods" and something?

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 23, 2025 04:10 PM (FLFnM)

197 osted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2025 04:06 PM (YqDXo)

I personally think that take is ridiculous.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 23, 2025 04:10 PM (D6PGr)

198 I volunteer to go to Russia and question Anna Chapman about it directly. Because I'm a giver that way.
Posted by: Bulg at January 23, 2025 04:06 PM (77rzZ)

I'll admit she would have honeytrapped me.

Posted by: Reforger at January 23, 2025 04:10 PM (xcIvR)

199 Read it last night in an insomnia attack. I agree it is worth reading. Douthat comes across as always as an GOPe establishment ass not worthy of questioning Marc Andreessen.

One of the things I was stuck by when Elon fired 70% of Twitter is how many of the jobs seemed to be make-work so they could install someone who checked a diversity box in the job.

Elon's slimmed-down staff looked a lot more like the old Silicon Valley - overwhelmingly young, male, and Asian. (Well, the Asian influx is more recent than the old Silicon Valley, but people hired purely on the basis of competence.)

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 23, 2025 04:10 PM (uxCna)

200 "I love the size of the box on Trump's desk holding the pens.
Lots more signing to do.
Posted by: Diogenes"

You could say Donald Trump has a pen and a phone.

Posted by: eleven at January 23, 2025 04:10 PM (fV+MH)

201 I suspect that the most we'll find out is that the CIA paid the mob to kill Oswald because Oswald was some kind of paid informant that went off grid, or something.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 04:09 PM (GBKbO)
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It raised a lot of suspicions when it turned out the guy who shot Oswald was suffering from terminal cancer.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 23, 2025 04:10 PM (tT6L1)

202 A wholesale removal of foreign policy and national security experts from the NSC on Day 1 of the new administration could deprive Trump's team of considerable expertise and institutional knowledge
________________

No, Trump's team can generate their own f-ups, thank you very much.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2025 04:10 PM (YqDXo)

203 The CIA/FBI will say the RFK, JFK and MLK files were left out back, they got wet and dissolved. No backups. Swearsies
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 23, 2025 04:01 PM (6v8aM)
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Has anyone checked FJB's garage lately? He might have a backup.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 23, 2025 04:10 PM (7fElN)

204 I'll admit she would have honeytrapped me.

I can fix her....

Posted by: brak at January 23, 2025 04:10 PM (jGJov)

205 "Except that their hand-picked stenographer claimed that's what they said, and the entire media amplified this message, and then never once clarified that they weren't saying it was a Russian op until they were caught."

This is the key, I think. The 51 officials made sure that their statement was sufficiently nebulous to allow them to evade a legal challenge. It was also enough for the MSM to run with it and give them deniability if/when they were finally caught. Not plausible deniability, however. The fact that none of the 51 rushed to clarify the planned misinterpretation gives the game away, of course.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 23, 2025 04:10 PM (SWpF+)

206 All the Hallmarks of a Hallmark TV romance.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 23, 2025 04:10 PM (63Dwl)

207 What's in place to prevent the CIA from doing another op on the US citizens by having a fake set of secret docs on the JFK assassination. Ok, ok, you guys aren't buying Oswald as shooter? How about... it was aliens!
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 23, 2025 04:08 PM (fs1hN)

the CDROMs in the box will be a giveaway.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 23, 2025 04:11 PM (n7h9X)

208 I quote from the letter, "...our experience makes us deeply suspicious that the Russian government played a significant role in this case." You then went on to say, "There are a number of factors that make us suspicious of Russian involvement." Then you wrote five paragraphs listing all the "factors" that made you believe the laptop was Russian disinformation.

Sheesh, the way that's phrased is sufficiently ambiguous that one could easily argue that they were actually saying "no Russians were involved in this at all"

Posted by: FeatherBlade at January 23, 2025 04:11 PM (hB7mE)

209
btw, whay hasn't PDT re-taken all HIS docs, yet, that were illegally seized by garland/wray??

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 23, 2025 04:11 PM (FLFnM)

210 I figured it was Jackie. It's always the last person you'd suspect.

(Too soon?)
Posted by: Dig gp Must at January 23, 2025 04:03 PM (8VyQQ)

Could be! Maybe she was throwing the pistol off the car when she was climbing on the trunk. After Marilyn sang to him for his birthday I'd be mad, too.

That was so sad to see, her thinking she could fix his head. I remember a lot of this stuff and the live TV of Oswald being shot over and over and over into eternity on tv.

My little brother was po'd that there were no cartoons that Saturday. I remember that as well.

I simply want to know why HWB denied being there, when he was, and wrote a dam letter to the FBI about his suspicions under a fake name. And at some point bought up to 175 acres in Paraguay...this part is true. Why?

Also what was in the little note at HWB's funeral that set Jeb and Laura off and sending hate vibes to President Trump. Someone knows something. And I am here for it.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 23, 2025 04:11 PM (gi+MR)

211 >>Yes. There seem to be a lot of people who believe G. Edgar Hoover was a cross dresser. What is the actual evidence for that?

LBJ used to regularly mock Hoover, with an audience, about his homosexuality.

It would not surprise me to hear that is where a lot of it originates.

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2025 04:11 PM (snN/i)

212 I'm skeptical about Ratcliffe. Trump has had good instincts this go around appointing people to be in charge of institutions they have been targeted by. Ratcliffe is not that. Plus, Ratcliffe was in charge of DNI when the intel community was trying to screw Trump.

He was. And he was virtually the only person in the intel community that came out and publicly said that Hunter's laptop was not Russian disinformation before the 2020 election. Just because most of the media ignored him and ran with the lie is not something I hold against him. Look at the date.

>>BREAKING NEWS
Ford recalls over 270,000 US vehicles due to battery concern
POLITICS
DNI John Ratcliffe says info on Hunter Biden laptop isn’t Russian disinformation
By Mark Moore
Published Oct. 19, 2020, 9:33 a.m. ET

https://tinyurl.com/4vmuph8w

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2025 04:11 PM (LkLld)

213 Note that another thing about yanking all these security clearances is that it cuts off an avenue used by the Deep State to launder leaks against Trump.

See, if they happen to mention classified information to a person outside of government but who still has clearance, no crime.

The 51 were "preferred vendors" as it were.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 23, 2025 04:11 PM (2k0oQ)

214 They also claimed that in the NATO big offensive to the coast in 2003 that they should be there in 4 days. 80 miles through three levels of fortifications and capturing three cities. note, they didn't get that far. They got 0 miles in 4 months.

Taking Crimea was certain!

Just ask "General Ben" Hodges!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 23, 2025 04:11 PM (uxCna)

215 When does a judge sign a order stopping the release of the assassinations?

Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2025 04:12 PM (fwDg9)

216 Was that not a huge red flag to this dunce?
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I didn't see the video above, but earlier thread the guy had a PhD from Harvard. Catnip for hot chick's, right? Maybe this guy has similar overinflated sense of self. Or maybe he figured if Swallwell could get a Chinse spy to have sex with him, then why not himself.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 23, 2025 04:12 PM (fs1hN)

217
Right? Shouldn't he do that?

Get ALL those boxes of docs that were illegally stolen from Mar A Lago and put them back in his home.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 23, 2025 04:12 PM (FLFnM)

218 smoke out Tillis, he is less than worthless and has been for years
Posted by: DanMan at January 23, 2025 04:05 PM (8uzBS)

166 Thom is a fhag.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
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I endorse these comments.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, in NC at January 23, 2025 04:12 PM (XeU6L)

219 197 osted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2025 04:06 PM (YqDXo)

I personally think that take is ridiculous.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 23, 2025 04:10 PM (D6PGr)
______________

Why?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2025 04:12 PM (YqDXo)

220 187 92 The thing is that there's not much likelihood of Tillis getting primaried from the right - given the candidate pool in NC - and he knows that.
Posted by: Henry O at January 23, 2025 03:57 PM (X5Mi4)

Any primary challenger Trump/MAGAworld wanted to get behind would have a good shot, but Trump always endorses GOP incumbents in primaries, no matter how much they screw him over.
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at January 23, 2025 04:08 PM (V6W16)

That was old Trump. Who knows what he'll do if someone f&cks him over now...as the saying goes, FAFO, b/c he's got Elon's money and his pulpit to help put in anyone he wants in NC...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 23, 2025 04:12 PM (exHjb)

221 >>I suspect that the most we'll find out is that the CIA paid the mob to kill Oswald because Oswald was some kind of paid informant that went off grid, or something.

Who killed Officer Tippet, though?

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2025 04:13 PM (snN/i)

222 I'm not sure there's a compelling argument to made to even have a National Security Council. The Fed is literally infested with drones that have "security" or "intelligence" in their PD, but provide absolutely zero analysis worth a shit.

But do have an agenda. And an ax to grind.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 23, 2025 04:13 PM (Q4IgG)

223 "A wholesale removal of foreign policy and national security experts from the NSC on Day 1 of the new administration could deprive Trump's team of considerable expertise and institutional knowledge at a time when the U.S. is grappling with difficult policy challenges in Ukraine, the Mideast and beyond. "
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This bunch of retards (can I say that now?) has been wrong for 50 years. Why should Trump (or anyone) continue to listen to them?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 23, 2025 04:13 PM (7fElN)

224 5 Trump has released video of signing the order declassifying JFK, RFK, MLK assassinations
Posted by: Methos at January 23, 2025 03:42 PM (Dnobf)

believe that when it happens, and not before

Trump ordered declassification of all Russiagate info in his last term, and the feds ignored him entirely.

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at January 23, 2025 04:13 PM (V6W16)

225 I suspect that the most we'll find out is that the CIA paid the mob to kill Oswald because Oswald was some kind of paid informant that went off grid, or something.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 04:09 PM (GBKbO)

Oswald was rumored to have been a CIA "paid associate" who was working in New Orleans, and it is claimed that he helped stop an assassination attempt at the Army Navy game prior to Dallas.
This is getting into really deep briars at this point.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2025 04:14 PM (D7oie)

226 Seeing as how the dam bullet in the coffin was vanished en route to DC, who knows?

The wound itself, showing his head partially blown off would indicate it came from behind instead, eh?

I want to know before I croak.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat
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Growing up, I gave the benefit of doubt to the government agencies. Seeing them up close, I no longer choose to put faith in anything that government officials say at pretty much any level of government.

They lie to avoid embarrassment, they lie to deprive people of their rights, they lie to steal from taxpayers, they lie about what we are doing and why overseas, they lie about conducting horrible experiments on American citizens, they lie about censorship and project Mockingbird.

At a certain point, you figure out it is an institutional problem--the elites lie because it is profitable for them and theirs and it works. So why wouldn't they lie, obstruct justice, and kill people that they felt were a threat to their way of life.

Sure enough pod people that don't consider themselves to be mere citizens but consider themselves rulers.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 04:14 PM (ctrM5)

227 It has gotten to the point where if I come across an article and it has the words "experts say", I immediately stop reading. I am not even kidding.
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Yep. Name names or just stop trying to wank me.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 23, 2025 04:14 PM (Wg6v7)

228 220 Any primary challenger Trump/MAGAworld wanted to get behind would have a good shot, but Trump always endorses GOP incumbents in primaries, no matter how much they screw him over.
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at January 23, 2025 04:08 PM (V6W16)

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He picks his targets, but he's definitely opposed GOP incumbents in primaries before. 2022, Trump endorsed Tshibaka over Murkowski in the primary, for instance.

With Musk's money, though, it could widen the field.

However, Tillis voting for every cabinet nominee is going to make him less of a target.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 04:14 PM (GBKbO)

229 OK now , who killed Tupac and Biggie ??

Posted by: runner at January 23, 2025 04:14 PM (g47mK)

230 Yes. There seem to be a lot of people who believe G. Edgar Hoover was a cross dresser. What is the actual evidence for that?
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I don't much care. He cared for the country and its security. Feet of clay? Maybe. But compare him, as a commie hater, to say, Comey.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, in NC at January 23, 2025 04:15 PM (XeU6L)

231 "leak that statement to a stenographer fake reporter, like Natasha Bertrand, and tell that reporter "Oh absolutely it's a Russian hoax, we just can't say so because that would reveal Sources & Methods, but you can totally report that we're saying it's a hoax, because that's what we're really saying."

(illegally?) propagandizing the US citizenry IS their sources and methods. But they do it for DeepState, not for USA (we the people).

Posted by: illiniwek at January 23, 2025 04:15 PM (Cus5s)

232 The thing is that there's not much likelihood of Tillis getting primaried from the right - given the candidate pool in NC - and he knows that.
Posted by: Henry O
==

It's still a massive headache for him, and for what good?

Does a single NC swing voter, vote for him based on his torpedoing of Hegseth?

If someone like Trump can comfortably win NC 3 times, there's no fear of confirmation votes like this.

Posted by: Leupold at January 23, 2025 04:15 PM (4pwAx)

233 You know who is very popular and from North Carolina?

Lara Trump.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2025 04:15 PM (LkLld)

234 OK now , who killed Tupac and Biggie ??
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Snoop Dog.

Posted by: The Rolling Stones at January 23, 2025 04:15 PM (azSra)

235 230 I don't much care. He cared for the country and its security. Feet of clay? Maybe. But compare him, as a commie hater, to say, Comey.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, in NC at January 23, 2025 04:15 PM (XeU6L)

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I think he grew to love his personal power more than he loved his country.

That's why he held information instead of used it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 04:16 PM (GBKbO)

236 Hoover kept files on everybody and then used them for blackmail, no ?

Posted by: runner at January 23, 2025 04:16 PM (g47mK)

237 Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2025 04:11 PM (snN/i)

Yeah; LBJ was a classy guy.

I just find the whole thing from decades ago really bizarre. Even if he was a gay, we're not talking about some of the bizarre gay culture of today- such as that freak from San Francisco who in government-Scott Whatever his name is.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 23, 2025 04:16 PM (MQJVv)

238 I endorse these comments.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, in NC at January 23, 2025 04:12 PM (XeU6L)

Who was Thom's big cheerleader here? NipSip?

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at January 23, 2025 04:16 PM (xqBSJ)

239 "I often wonder how weak you must feel to look at Donald Trump and see strength."

-- Adam Kinzinger on Bluesky

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 23, 2025 04:16 PM (a3Q+t)

240 Top pic looks like a puffy John Hamm.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Mega Dittos at January 23, 2025 04:17 PM (Ad8y9)

241 Let the record reflect that I was never in Dallas.
-- Zombie Gavrilo Princip

Posted by: Bulg at January 23, 2025 04:17 PM (77rzZ)

242 "I often wonder how weak you must feel to look at Donald Trump and see strength."
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Sure you do.

Posted by: ... at January 23, 2025 04:17 PM (mg05v)

243 207 What's in place to prevent the CIA from doing another op on the US citizens by having a fake set of secret docs on the JFK assassination. Ok, ok, you guys aren't buying Oswald as shooter? How about... it was aliens!
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 23, 2025 04:08 PM (fs1hN)

the CDROMs in the box will be a giveaway.
Posted by: Oldcat
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The secret is in the fonts. I repeat, the secret is in the fonts.

But more seriously, courts just hammered someone for submitting a fake ancient document in a case that was detected by the use of a non-existent font at the time and spacing between letters.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 04:18 PM (ctrM5)

244 Hoover kept files on everybody and then used them for blackmail, no ?
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Those are the rumors...

Posted by: Doc Holliday at January 23, 2025 04:18 PM (azSra)

245 I want Trump to do a weekly address like the Fireside Chat, where he sits at the Resolute Desk and reads out Freshly De-Classified Documents while sipping Diet Coke.

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2025 03:55 PM (snN/i)

Trump revealing the secrets of powerful government authorities is such a huge win politically. It's captivating to the voters and generates tremendous goodwill.

It also neuters the media, whose worth relies entirely on access/leaks of such info.

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at January 23, 2025 04:18 PM (V6W16)

246 Yes. There seem to be a lot of people who believe G. Edgar Hoover was a cross dresser. What is the actual evidence for that?
_______________

I've read that the KGB planted that story in a newspaper in India so it would be picked up and considered more credible. Apparently the KGB was laughing its collective ass off when the story went viral.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2025 04:18 PM (YqDXo)

247 I don't believe Oswald acted alone. I would be surprised if the files say differently.

Posted by: washrivergal at January 23, 2025 04:18 PM (C53IZ)

248 234 OK now , who killed Tupac and Biggie ??
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Snoop Dog.
Posted by: The Rolling Stones

P. Diddy.

Posted by: Piper at January 23, 2025 04:18 PM (ZdaMQ)

249 Snoop Dog.
Posted by: The Rolling Stones at January 23, 2025 04:15 PM (azSra)

Didd he(y)?

Posted by: Reforger at January 23, 2025 04:19 PM (xcIvR)

250 Nip time for the cats. Silvervine blend gets em good and ripped.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at January 23, 2025 04:19 PM (8VyQQ)

251 Hoover kept files on everybody and then used them for blackmail, no ?
Posted by: runner at January 23, 2025 04:16 PM (g47mK)

The race to capture Hoover's private files was about as cutthroat as the race to capture Beria's files.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2025 04:19 PM (D7oie)

252 OK now , who killed Tupac and Biggie ??
__________________

A music critic?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2025 04:19 PM (YqDXo)

253 "Talented professionals, wary of being dismissed for principled stances or offering objective advice, will either self-censor or forgo service altogether."

But if course this has already happened, has been happening for years, decades even. But it was those of a more conservative bent who had to self-censor or take their talents elsewhere, so they didn't consider it a problem.

Posted by: DaveL at January 23, 2025 04:19 PM (9w232)

254 230 Yes. There seem to be a lot of people who believe G. Edgar Hoover was a cross dresser. What is the actual evidence for that?
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I don't much care. He cared for the country and its security. Feet of clay? Maybe. But compare him, as a commie hater, to say, Comey.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, in NC at January 23, 2025 04:15 PM (XeU6L)

The penis in the dress is a dead give away. Trust me.

Posted by: Big mike at January 23, 2025 04:19 PM (kvGAI)

255 My little brother was po'd that there were no cartoons that Saturday. I remember that as well.
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Jeebus, it was weeks of assasination news following JFK's head exploding. The first movie that was broadcast in Norfolk was 'The Purple Heart'. Pretty shitty movie, too.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 23, 2025 04:19 PM (Wg6v7)

256 But more seriously, courts just hammered someone for submitting a fake ancient document in a case that was detected by the use of a non-existent font at the time and spacing between letters.
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 04:18 PM (ctrM5)

no, the ancient Assyrians did NOT use Comic Sans!

Posted by: Oldcat at January 23, 2025 04:19 PM (n7h9X)

257 I don't much care. He cared for the country and its security. Feet of clay? Maybe. But compare him, as a commie hater, to say, Comey.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

Disagree. He cared only for power.

Posted by: Bulg at January 23, 2025 04:20 PM (77rzZ)

258 That was so sad to see, her thinking she could fix his head. I remember a lot of this stuff and the live TV of Oswald being shot over and over and over into eternity on tv.

My little brother was po'd that there were no cartoons that Saturday. I remember that as well.
_________________

Oswald was shot on a Sunday.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2025 04:21 PM (YqDXo)

259 253 "Talented professionals, wary of being dismissed for principled stances or offering objective advice, will either self-censor or forgo service altogether."

But if course this has already happened, has been happening for years, decades even. But it was those of a more conservative bent who had to self-censor or take their talents elsewhere, so they didn't consider it a problem.
Posted by: DaveL at January 23, 2025 04:19 PM (9w232

They conflate giving a strong counter opinion with not doing as ordered once the boss says nah bro, do it my way. These shits really think they get a deep state beuracratic veto.

Posted by: Big mike at January 23, 2025 04:21 PM (kvGAI)

260 Sock off.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at January 23, 2025 04:21 PM (kvGAI)

261 Is the tranny still the surgeon general?

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2025 04:22 PM (W2Pud)

262 Biden actually said in debate with Trump that the intelligence officials said it was Russian disinformation not that it had the hallmarks. He stated it as fact and the moderators did not fact check it.

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2025 04:22 PM (XxBX3)

263 Have you ever dealt with a kid who was tall enough to stretch and reach the cookies in the kitchen, but pleaded "You said not to go in the kitchen, and I was never actually in the kitchen"?

Posted by: Eeyore at January 23, 2025 04:22 PM (1bNHn)

264 247 I don't believe Oswald acted alone. I would be surprised if the files say differently.
Posted by: washrivergal at January 23, 2025 04:18 PM (C53IZ)

Even as young as I was he did not look like the brightest bulb.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 23, 2025 04:22 PM (gi+MR)

265 236 Hoover kept files on everybody and then used them for blackmail, no ?
Posted by: runner

Hoover lived more or less like a monk and I think he did use the files for blackmail in a way to protect his agency. Part of it was to tell someone like JFK to their face , "Hey, I know you are screwing around with starlets and mob bosses girlfriends". "But, how can I help make sure this is not a problem for you and the govt. "

Some of it like the Venona files were kept secret for fear that the political bosses would shut down the intercept program as a lot of it was done without statutory authorization, etc.

And sometimes, those files were used to indicate what the true situation was and warn presidents, etc. that "this is what our informants tell us is happening. Now, you deal with it."

Know that was true simply from reading the Little Rock Central FBI informant files on the event.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 04:23 PM (ctrM5)

266 Trump is releasing the Kennedy assassination files. 👀👀

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 23, 2025 04:23 PM (4tmpE)

267 Oh wait. It's some Indian dude. Never mind

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2025 04:23 PM (W2Pud)

268 Biden actually said in debate with Trump that the intelligence officials said it was Russian disinformation not that it had the hallmarks. He stated it as fact and the moderators did not fact check it.
Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2025 04:22 PM (XxBX3)

Trump said they suggested it was Russian disinfo and so they did. They brought it up and put their supposed expertise behind it.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 23, 2025 04:24 PM (n7h9X)

269 I utterly despise Tillis.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 23, 2025 04:24 PM (1bNHn)

270 "Tillis is worried about defying MAGA yet again, and would like Trump to take his problem away."

Own your vote, Thom. Or better yet, John Thune should tell him to own his vote.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 23, 2025 04:24 PM (SWpF+)

271 >>>no, the ancient Assyrians did NOT use Comic Sans!

Neither did the Sumerians. They used wingdings as I recall.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 23, 2025 04:24 PM (CwhoI)

272 Murphy (D-CT): Trump Has ‘Legitimized’ Political Violence Against Dems — ‘Our Lives Have Been Put in Jeopardy’

HARTFORD, Conn. (WTNH) — A 12-year-old boy was shot while throwing snowballs Wednesday evening in Hartford, according to police.

Posted by: SMOD at January 23, 2025 04:24 PM (RHGPo)

273 Of course Oswald didn't act alone. Do you think the Secret Service is incompetent enough to allow a sniper to just walk up with a rifle into the the most obvious sniper position?

Oh, wait....

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 23, 2025 04:24 PM (b4o9z)

274 But more seriously, courts just hammered someone for submitting a fake ancient document in a case that was detected by the use of a non-existent font at the time and spacing between letters.
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 04:18 PM (ctrM5)

Say what now?

Posted by: Dan Rather at January 23, 2025 04:24 PM (XxBX3)

275 Oswald was shot on a Sunday.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2025 04:21 PM (YqDXo)

The cartoons were interrupted due to JFK being shot a few days prior.

I honestly did not know which date of Oswald meeting his end that weekend, but I do know where I was sitting at my grandparent's and watching it 1000 times.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 23, 2025 04:24 PM (gi+MR)

276 245 I want Trump to do a weekly address like the Fireside Chat, where he sits at the Resolute Desk and reads out Freshly De-Classified Documents while sipping Diet Coke.

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2025 03:55 PM (snN/i)

Trump revealing the secrets of powerful government authorities is such a huge win politically. It's captivating to the voters and generates tremendous goodwill.

It also neuters the media, whose worth relies entirely on access/leaks of such info.
Posted by: Bitcoin
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I would agree. Walking in the sunlight is a better way to live as an individual and as a country.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 04:25 PM (ctrM5)

277 @DC_Draino
President Trump has signed an executive order banning Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC)

This was going to be abused by big banks as a social credit score where they could freeze your money for wrong think

Huge day for freedom

Posted by: Lady in Black at January 23, 2025 04:25 PM (qBdHI)

278 Trump Has ‘Legitimized’ Political Violence Against Dems — ‘Our Lives Have Been Put in Jeopardy’

Maybe Murph you shouldn't have sent TWO people to assassinate Trump?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 23, 2025 04:25 PM (t0Rmr)

279 If you ever looked out of the Depository window and looked at the spot where Kennedy was shot, the story that Oswald was the lone shooter seems more than possible. That said, I wouldn't make a bet one way or the other.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 23, 2025 04:25 PM (D6PGr)

280 "Alexander Vindman said in a statement Friday that the Trump team's approach to staffing the NSC "will have a chilling effect on senior policy staff across the government."

But

Alexander Vindman is the DIRECT CAUSE of this decision. I mean he decided he didn't like Trump policy, and concocted this idiotic case that ended up in an impeachment trial!

Ergo, Trump can no longer trust career professionals to not betray him and try to get him impeached.

Posted by: El Mariachi at January 23, 2025 04:25 PM (nLFEI)

281 >>>Even as young as I was he did not look like the brightest bulb.

Oswald always seemed like the guy to try to impress a total stranger on a first date by telling her, "I work for the CIA."

Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 23, 2025 04:25 PM (CwhoI)

282 Huge day for freedom
Posted by: Lady in Black at January 23, 2025 04:25 PM (qBdHI)

Bad day for WEF

Posted by: Long night... darkness lifted. at January 23, 2025 04:26 PM (2NXcZ)

283 Hoover was born in DC, went to college in DC (GWU), and died and was buried in DC.

He had the Deep State in his DNA.

Posted by: Bulg at January 23, 2025 04:26 PM (77rzZ)

284 I don't believe Oswald acted alone. I would be surprised if the files say differently.

Posted by: washrivergal at January 23, 2025 04:18 PM (C53IZ)

You know, when you see the area on the news it looks like this big area where people could be mistaken about what they heard. I was in dallas for a guitar for a guitar show and some said hey lets go see the area. I was shocked, it looked like the whole damn thing could fit in a 7-11 parking lot. I was standing on the curb by the red X in the street and asked, well where the hell is this grassy knoll thing? They said right behind you, and literally right behind me there was this little side yard next to a building. It was unreal.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 23, 2025 04:26 PM (VwHCD)

285 Note that another thing about yanking all these security clearances is that it cuts off an avenue used by the Deep State to launder leaks against Trump.

See, if they happen to mention classified information to a person outside of government but who still has clearance, no crime.

The 51 were "preferred vendors" as it were.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 23, 2025 04:11 PM (2k0oQ)

I see this a lot, but it is not correct.

Having a clearance doesn't mean you get to know everything classified at that level. It only means you can know the bits of information classified at that level and which you require to do your job.

I don't get to know everything classified TS/SCI just because that's the level of my clearance. I get to know a ridiculously small number of things about a ridiculously small number of things which are classified TS/SCI and which I require to do my job.

Telling me something classified TS/SCI which I don't need to know is a crime even though I've been cleared at that level.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at January 23, 2025 04:26 PM (FAbrK)

286 Have you ever dealt with a kid who was tall enough to stretch and reach the cookies in the kitchen, but pleaded "You said not to go in the kitchen, and I was never actually in the kitchen"?
Posted by: Eeyore at January 23, 2025 04:22 PM (1bNHn)

I have cats that sit on a placemat so they can deny being on the table. its an core behavior.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 23, 2025 04:26 PM (n7h9X)

287 207 What's in place to prevent the CIA from doing another op on the US citizens by having a fake set of secret docs on the JFK assassination. Ok, ok, you guys aren't buying Oswald as shooter? How about... it was aliens!
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 23, 2025 04:08 PM (fs1hN)

the CDROMs in the box will be a giveaway.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 23, 2025 04:11 PM (n7h9X)

Microfiche

Posted by: Inogame at January 23, 2025 04:26 PM (53oGX)

288 253 "Talented professionals, wary of being dismissed for principled stances or offering objective advice, will either self-censor or forgo service altogether."

But if course this has already happened, has been happening for years, decades even. But it was those of a more conservative bent who had to self-censor or take their talents elsewhere, so they didn't consider it a problem.
Posted by: DaveL at January 23, 2025 04:19 PM (9w232)

100% true. Trump should be happy some survived the purge...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 23, 2025 04:26 PM (exHjb)

289 There was a second spitter.

https://youtu.be/tBz3PqA2Fmc

Posted by: Obligatory Seinfeld reference at January 23, 2025 04:26 PM (dg+HA)

290 Brennan, as usual, expects you to believe to contrary things:

1) Removing his security clearance is no biggie.

2) We should all be upset he lost his security clearance.

Posted by: El Mariachi at January 23, 2025 04:27 PM (nLFEI)

291 285 Telling me something classified TS/SCI which I don't need to know is a crime even though I've been cleared at that level.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at January 23, 2025 04:26 PM (FAbrK)

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Well, unless you're important. Like Brennan.

Then it's okay.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 04:27 PM (GBKbO)

292 If you ever looked out of the Depository window and looked at the spot where Kennedy was shot, the story that Oswald was the lone shooter seems more than possible.
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I've been there--I agree it seems like a layup of a shot. But lone shooter doesn't mean he acted alone, and the layup of a shot doesn't preclude there being other shooters involved to make sure the job was handled.

Posted by: Doc Holliday at January 23, 2025 04:27 PM (azSra)

293 Hey, dudes. Trump’s the President.

Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2025 04:27 PM (jgmnb)

294 I predict there will be nothing that confirms the CIA was to blame in files maintained by the CIA without other oversight for the past 60 years.

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2025 04:27 PM (XxBX3)

295 We're watching the most amazing politics of several lifetimes.
Stay Strong, Trump...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at January 23, 2025 04:28 PM (TGPs7)

296 Jeebus, it was weeks of assasination news following JFK's head exploding. The first movie that was broadcast in Norfolk was 'The Purple Heart'. Pretty shitty movie, too.

Here the only movie was "keys to the kingdom" over and over and over.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle for festive little hats at January 23, 2025 04:28 PM (hcwgv)

297 How many of our Texas (or other) Hordelings have visited Dealey Plaza and could shed some light on this discussion?

Posted by: Bulg at January 23, 2025 04:28 PM (77rzZ)

298 >>Alexander Vindman is the DIRECT CAUSE of this decision. I mean he decided he didn't like Trump policy, and concocted this idiotic case that ended up in an impeachment trial!

Vindman was the front man. The CIA ran the op through him.

Remember the "whistleblower" whose name we were never allowed to use? Eric Ciamarella. CIA. Worked with Biden in Ukraine and was also digging up dirt on Trump's team in Ukraine for the Russia collusion crap.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2025 04:28 PM (LkLld)

299 Keep in mind we are 60+ years out from the JFK assassination. Not only has every method and process used been out in the public for decades the enemy we were monitoring, the Soviets, don't exist any more.

There is no valid reason to keep anything about the JFK assassination secret any more.

Its either:

1) The info shows massive incompetence on the part of the American government that is embarrassing to this day
2) The info shows parts of the American government were involved.

1 or 2. And the more the government fights releasing it, the more it looks like #2.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 23, 2025 04:28 PM (t0Rmr)

300 If you ever looked out of the Depository window and looked at the spot where Kennedy was shot, the story that Oswald was the lone shooter seems more than possible.
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I've been there--I agree it seems like a layup of a shot. But lone shooter doesn't mean he acted alone, and the layup of a shot doesn't preclude there being other shooters involved to make sure the job was handled.

Posted by: Doc Holliday at January 23, 2025 04:27 PM (azSra)

Yeah that was amazing, the building was like right there. I'm asking well where the hell is the building? They said right there, like almost in front of me. He could have hit him with a slingshot.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 23, 2025 04:29 PM (VwHCD)

301 299 1 or 2. And the more the government fights releasing it, the more it looks like #2.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 23, 2025 04:28 PM (t0Rmr)

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And they haven't fought it for 60+ years, have they?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 04:29 PM (GBKbO)

302 All my blood is rushing to my crotch. Gonna be a Looong, rough night of teh Mrs.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 23, 2025 04:29 PM (8C1eU)

303 You know, when you see the area on the news it looks like this big area where people could be mistaken about what they heard. I was in dallas for a guitar for a guitar show and some said hey lets go see the area. I was shocked, it looked like the whole damn thing could fit in a 7-11 parking lot. I was standing on the curb by the red X in the street and asked, well where the hell is this grassy knoll thing? They said right behind you, and literally right behind me there was this little side yard next to a building. It was unreal.
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I agree. IF we had nothing else to go on, the fact that anyone at all *approved* that part of the drive rather than re-routing it would be enough to convince me more than Oswald were involved in making this happen.

Posted by: Crusader at January 23, 2025 04:29 PM (azSra)

304 161
Watch frames 312 and 313 of the Zapruder home video.

Posted by: extybeebum at January 23, 2025 04:29 PM (4UqBy)

305 Oh, I see we've already had a few visitors to the site chime in.

Posted by: Bulg at January 23, 2025 04:30 PM (77rzZ)

306 Ok, ok, you guys aren't buying Oswald as shooter? How about... it was aliens!

That's our schtick

Posted by: The Airforce Skunkworks at January 23, 2025 04:30 PM (t0Rmr)

307 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 23, 2025 04:26 PM (VwHCD)

+++++

I know it is a very small area, a perfect area. I think I read that the route was changed for some odd reason. Also I read that the media car that on all other occasions would have been situated directly in front the the president's vehicle was instead placed many cars ahead in the parade.

Posted by: washrivergal at January 23, 2025 04:30 PM (C53IZ)

308 >>>I want Trump to do a weekly address like the Fireside Chat, where he sits at the Resolute Desk and reads out Freshly De-Classified Documents while sipping Diet Coke.

"Huh, Uma Thurman's real name is 'Bertha Flamorrhea'. How 'bout that."
*takes a sip*

Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 23, 2025 04:30 PM (CwhoI)

309
A wholesale removal of foreign policy and national security experts from the NSC on Day 1 of the new administration could deprive Trump's team of considerable expertise and institutional knowledge

"Experts" have been doing a bang-up job in the intel sphere, like how they anticipated N Korea's invasion of the South in 1950, correctly reading every move in Vietnam in the '60s, predicting the continued reign of the Soviets, preventing 9/11, immediately capturing Bin Ladin at the beginning of the war etc.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 23, 2025 04:31 PM (y9nCu)

310 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2025 04:18 PM (YqDXo)

Yes; It sounded like too bizarre of a story from decades ago.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 23, 2025 04:31 PM (MQJVv)

311 LBJ used to regularly mock Hoover, with an audience, about his homosexuality.

It would not surprise me to hear that is where a lot of it originates.
Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2025 04:11 PM (snN/i)

LBJ was a pig who used to talk to staff while he took a dump on the toilet. Or so I read, I was only 8yrs old and reading stuff from magazines.

I do remember being grossed out by his galbladder scar photo. i could have lived without that etched into my retinas. And horrified he held up his beagle by the dog's ears.

I thought Lady Bird was ugly. And that's all I remember other than seeing photos of him taking the oath on AF1 with poor Jackie in her bloody pink suit next to his sorry ass.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 23, 2025 04:31 PM (gi+MR)

312 Unfortunate all 20,000 boxes of JFk, RFK and MLK files were accidentally shredded, dumped in vats of acid and thrown into the ocean. Darn the luck

Posted by: Ripley at January 23, 2025 04:31 PM (GUOwU)

313 >>Alexander Vindman is the DIRECT CAUSE of this decision. I mean he decided he didn't like Trump policy, and concocted this idiotic case that ended up in an impeachment trial!

Vindman was the front man. The CIA ran the op through him.

Remember the "whistleblower" whose name we were never allowed to use? Eric Ciamarella. CIA. Worked with Biden in Ukraine and was also digging up dirt on Trump's team in Ukraine for the Russia collusion crap.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2025 04:28 PM (LkLld)

Trump needs to blowtorch these assholes.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 23, 2025 04:31 PM (VwHCD)

314 I see this a lot, but it is not correct.

Having a clearance doesn't mean you get to know everything classified at that level. It only means you can know the bits of information classified at that level and which you require to do your job.

I don't get to know everything classified TS/SCI just because that's the level of my clearance. I get to know a ridiculously small number of things about a ridiculously small number of things which are classified TS/SCI and which I require to do my job.

Telling me something classified TS/SCI which I don't need to know is a crime even though I've been cleared at that level.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating

This is correct.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 23, 2025 04:31 PM (sAmhv)

315 Telling me something classified TS/SCI which I don't need to know is a crime even though I've been cleared at that level.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at January 23, 2025 04:26 PM (FAbrK)

I said this before and some people got bent out of shape - pulling clearances is necessary but not sufficient. Of the 51 those who are currently active IC will lose their positions but not Federal employment.

Those who are contractors will lose position and maybe the job.

People like Brennan did not derive value from what they know but rather who they know. They should get a PNG and made radioactive.

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2025 04:31 PM (lBiKv)

316 Tillis is terrified he's going to actually have to go on record with a vote.

Which is exactly what I said during Trump's first term.

Multiple times he let Bitch McConnell or McCarthy or Ryan claim 'they didn't have the votes', so they wouldn't even bother bringing it up for a vote to protect the RINOs who were withholding their votes.

That's what all the crap a month ago with the scumbags Ernst and Graham was about. Trying to torpedo him without ever actually taking a vote but claim they TOTALLY would have supported him if given the chance.

That era is gone.

You're going to take a vote on the record, Tillis, and be forced to defend it.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at January 23, 2025 04:32 PM (lCHt6)

317 279 If you ever looked out of the Depository window and looked at the spot where Kennedy was shot, the story that Oswald was the lone shooter seems more than possible. That said, I wouldn't make a bet one way or the other.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth
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There was a reenactment back when the History Channel actually showed history. A markman demonstrated that it was technically possible for Oswald to have carried it out. Whether he had help, was a patsy, or something in between is quite another question.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 04:32 PM (ctrM5)

318 Ciaramella and Vindman- no pardons.

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2025 04:32 PM (lBiKv)

319 Obviously this cross dressing rumor has gone on for years, really don't care, what should have been stopped a term way longer than anyone should have

Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2025 04:33 PM (fwDg9)

320 >>Trump needs to blowtorch these assholes.

I gotta believe it's part of his plans. They tried to end his presidency and when the failed end his life.

The secrets are in Ukraine.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2025 04:33 PM (LkLld)

321 Well, unless you're important. Like Brennan.

Then it's okay.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 04:27 PM (GBKbO)

Perhaps functionally this has been true for some time. That we decline to prosecute crime doesn't make it legal, it just makes that version of the government suck more than usual.

It's about time a president had the stones to tell these guys to get bent.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at January 23, 2025 04:33 PM (FAbrK)

322 >>>I want Trump to do a weekly address like the Fireside Chat, where he sits at the Resolute Desk and reads out Freshly De-Classified Documents while sipping Diet Coke.

"Huh, Uma Thurman's real name is 'Bertha Flamorrhea'. How 'bout that."
*takes a sip*
Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 23, 2025 04:30 PM (CwhoI)

It must be called "The Gorilla Channel".

Must. Be. Called. This.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2025 04:33 PM (D7oie)

323 I thought Lady Bird was ugly.
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The assertions were that LBJ was getting sex from plenty of staffers, hotel patrons, etc. Lady Bird wasn't on his radar.

Posted by: Crusader at January 23, 2025 04:33 PM (azSra)

324 If you ever looked out of the Depository window and looked at the spot where Kennedy was shot, the story that Oswald was the lone shooter seems more than possible. That said, I wouldn't make a bet one way or the other.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 23, 2025 04:25 PM (D6PGr)
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I just did that a few months ago, and I agree. Especially when I found out that JFK's limo was moving at essentially walking speed. Trained marksman, slow moving target not that far away ... distinctly possible for a lone shooter to have done this.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2025 04:33 PM (YqDXo)

325 Florida Attorney Arrested After Allegedly Going Ballistic in Prime Rib Buffet Line

Posted by: SMOD at January 23, 2025 04:34 PM (RHGPo)

326 Do we accept that Oswald Killed JD Tippet and also tried to assassinate General Edwin Walker prior to the Kennedy assassination?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 23, 2025 04:34 PM (D6PGr)

327 Tillis will "retire" or get primaried by Trump. Lara Trump.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at January 23, 2025 04:34 PM (MZ+PY)

328 321 It's about time a president had the stones to tell these guys to get bent.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at January 23, 2025 04:33 PM (FAbrK)

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A DOJ prosecuting the Deep State personnel for security violations, FARA violations, and Logan Act violations would certainly be...interesting.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 04:34 PM (GBKbO)

329 My introduction to LBJ was his portrayal in The Right Stuff.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 04:34 PM (GBKbO)

330 Donald Trump Revokes Mike Pompeo’s Taxpayer-Funded Security Detail

Posted by: SMOD at January 23, 2025 04:35 PM (RHGPo)

331 Trump just needs to recess appoint Hegseth. The very definition of Trump Card.

Posted by: Conan the Disturber at January 23, 2025 04:35 PM (qbmaU)

332 OT and now some helpful advice from Stacy McCain who most recently had been investigating the story of the shooting at an Antioch high school:

"Solomon Henderson may not be typical of anything, except as the tip of an iceberg of psychiatric damage caused by the always-online culture of the 21st century. Because my job requires a lot of online research, I have to find ways to avoid the swirling vortex of bizarre craziness that’s always out there beckoning — when you stare into the abyss for a living, the abyss is always staring back at you."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 23, 2025 04:35 PM (MQJVv)

333 There are a few interesting parallels between the assassinations of Franz Ferdinand and JFK:

both targets were shot while riding in cars in a public procession;
the wives of both men were present (though, unlike poor Sofie Chotek, Jackie was not shot and survived);
in both cases, governors were present (John Connelly of Texas, and Oskar Portiorek, the A-H military governor of Bosnia and Herzegovina).

Posted by: Bulg at January 23, 2025 04:35 PM (77rzZ)

334 I am a contractor at a Federal agency with a hybrid telework policy. I expected to go back from vacation to a 100% in office situation. As of now the agency (one I would expect as an executive agency to be Trumpier than most) has said nothing has changed in the policy and continue current work schedule.

I would be surprised if any Federal office has complied with the EO at all.

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2025 04:35 PM (lBiKv)

335 I just had this vision! Adam Schiff in an orange jumpsuit !

Posted by: runner at January 23, 2025 04:36 PM (g47mK)

336 Gunther Eagleman™
@GuntherEagleman
Holy sh*t! ICE just raided the offices of Joseph Flynn in Rhode Island.

He is a top immigration lawyer.

Heads are going to start rolling!

https://tinyurl.com/5dxryshf

Posted by: redridinghood at January 23, 2025 04:36 PM (NpAcC)

337 My introduction to LBJ was his portrayal in The Right Stuff.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 04:34 PM (GBKbO)
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That was hilarious!

"Can't anybody do anything about a housewife??"
*folds arms, pouts*

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at January 23, 2025 04:36 PM (6K6Eu)

338 The thing that most makes me think Oswald had help was Jack Ruby killing him. Somebody didn't want him talking.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 23, 2025 04:36 PM (b4o9z)

339 I thought Lady Bird was ugly. And that's all I remember other than seeing photos of him taking the oath on AF1 with poor Jackie in her bloody pink suit next to his sorry ass.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat
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Jackie spoke recently in a book from the grave where she said that LBJ tried to force Jackie to change to a new dress. Jackie refused and said she wanted people to see what they did to Jack.

LBJ also back in the day as VP tried to force John Glenn's wife to invite him in with TV crews while John was in space. LBJ put pressure on NASA administrators but they were afraid to cross JFK and Glenn who were friends. They cravenly asked Glenn for permission but allowed it to stick when Glenn said absolutely not. Glenn's wife had a speech impediment and hated being in the news and having to speak in public.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 04:37 PM (ctrM5)

340 People like Brennan did not derive value from what they know but rather who they know. They should get a PNG and made radioactive.

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2025 04:31 PM (lBiKv)

I mean, if there were any justice in the world, he should get a loop and a drop...

But I'd settle for seeing him driven from society.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at January 23, 2025 04:37 PM (FAbrK)

341 312 Unfortunate all 20,000 boxes of JFk, RFK and MLK files were accidentally shredded, dumped in vats of acid and thrown into the ocean. Darn the luck

Posted by: Ripley at January 23, 2025 04:31 PM (GUOwU)
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Predication: Files won't be seen for months or years because they have to review all sections for "redaction"

Posted by: WisRich at January 23, 2025 04:37 PM (G0vdT)

342 >

Because, as we know during the last four years, that expertise has been used to the US's advantage so wisely around the world to advance America's interests abroad during difficult challenges around the world. No one, and I mean no one has more expertly knowledge than those expertly experts!

Posted by: Cheri at January 23, 2025 04:37 PM (oiNtH)

343 The thing that most makes me think Oswald had help was Jack Ruby killing him. Somebody didn't want him talking.
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There are gaping holes in the official story of the killing of RFK as well.

Posted by: Crusader at January 23, 2025 04:37 PM (azSra)

344 If you ever looked out of the Depository window and looked at the spot where Kennedy was shot, the story that Oswald was the lone shooter seems more than possible. That said, I wouldn't make a bet one way or the other.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth
--
There was a reenactment back when the History Channel actually showed history. A markman demonstrated that it was technically possible for Oswald to have carried it out. Whether he had help, was a patsy, or something in between is quite another question.
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 04:32 PM (ctrM5)

of course he could do it - he was a drafted guy who knew how to shoot, the car was open and the motorcade was slowed very much by the turn around the plaza.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 23, 2025 04:37 PM (n7h9X)

345 speaking on the condition of anonymity
......

John Brennan lusts after little boys.

Posted by: wth at January 23, 2025 04:38 PM (v0R5T)

346 Wondering if the JFK investigation reveals some foreign involvement.

On my list of give a fucks though, it's not really at the top. Academically interesting for me though.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 23, 2025 04:38 PM (rpE+3)

347 Without control over the corrupt DOD billions the derp state loses its core.

Posted by: Conan the Disturber at January 23, 2025 04:38 PM (qbmaU)

348 334 I am a contractor at a Federal agency with a hybrid telework policy. I expected to go back from vacation to a 100% in office situation. As of now the agency (one I would expect as an executive agency to be Trumpier than most) has said nothing has changed in the policy and continue current work schedule.

I would be surprised if any Federal office has complied with the EO at all.
Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2025 04:35 PM (lBiKv)

Go to federalnewsnetwork.com - new guidance is 30 days to comply across all of fed gov (unless impossible). Only exceptions are disability, illness and "needed" folks...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 23, 2025 04:38 PM (exHjb)

349 >>> 336 Gunther Eagleman™
@GuntherEagleman
Holy sh*t! ICE just raided the offices of Joseph Flynn in Rhode Island.

He is a top immigration lawyer.

Heads are going to start rolling!

https://tinyurl.com/5dxryshf
Posted by: redridinghood at January 23, 2025 04:36 PM (NpAcC)

*tents fingers*

Exxxxxcellent.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 23, 2025 04:39 PM (NtUSo)

350 I just did that a few months ago, and I agree. Especially when I found out that JFK's limo was moving at essentially walking speed. Trained marksman, slow moving target not that far away ... distinctly possible for a lone shooter to have done this.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2025 04:33 PM (YqDXo)

yeah I'm still shocked at what I saw there. At the time it was like 40 years I was seeing this area on the news and old film reels. It looked like a large area in different directions. Then I see it and it could fit in the area that my driveway and front yard takes up. What a shock that was.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 23, 2025 04:39 PM (VwHCD)

351 The secrets are in Ukraine.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2025 04:33 PM (LkLld)

That's the key, isn't it and the reason the family pardons started from 2014.

Posted by: Long night... darkness lifted. at January 23, 2025 04:39 PM (2NXcZ)

352 269 I utterly despise Tillis.
===
You have a lot of company. The first time I wrote him he responded with an interns description of the process and no mention of Pete, Tulsi, etal. Since then he doesn't answer at all. I've never given a dime to a politician but I will damn sure send it to whoever primaries this POS.

Posted by: dingbat63 at January 23, 2025 04:39 PM (S2S6Q)

353 338 The thing that most makes me think Oswald had help was Jack Ruby killing him. Somebody didn't want him talking.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 23, 2025 04:36 PM (b4o9z)

++++

Oswald called himself a patsy. Then he is dead.

Posted by: washrivergal at January 23, 2025 04:39 PM (C53IZ)

354 I was once at a Mardi Gras ball and Jim Garrison and Woody Harrelson were both there too. I wonder what they talked about.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 23, 2025 04:39 PM (b4o9z)

355 Back and to the left.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2025 04:39 PM (LkLld)

356 Oskar Portiorek, the A-H military governor of Bosnia and Herzegovina).
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Avalon Hill? Ah Austra Hungary. Speaking of AH, Austria Hungary was a bummer to get stuck with in Diplomacy

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 23, 2025 04:40 PM (fs1hN)

357 " We're watching the most amazing politics of several lifetimes.
Stay Strong, Trump...
Posted by: Mister Ghost "

I'd say having your wife's panty drawer searched by the Deep State is a pretty strong motivator.

Posted by: eleven at January 23, 2025 04:40 PM (fV+MH)

358 I thought Lady Bird was ugly

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Part of LBJ's highway beautification program was prohibit Lady Bird and their daughters from riding in a convertible.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 23, 2025 04:40 PM (rpE+3)

359 Ratcliffe Confirmed as CIA Director, 74-25

He'll make them pay

Posted by: Oglebay at January 23, 2025 04:40 PM (ogTiX)

360 Hallelujah!

The Persistence is going after Murkowski...

ThePersistence
@ScottPresler
See you in 2028.

Peacefully.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at January 23, 2025 04:40 PM (TGPs7)

361 Jackie spoke recently in a book from the grave where she said that LBJ tried to force Jackie to change to a new dress. Jackie refused and said she wanted people to see what they did to Jack.

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yeah you have to be pure evil to think a woman might want to clean up her husbands' blood off herself.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 23, 2025 04:40 PM (n7h9X)

362 I'm speechless that fed jobs are still remote this long after Covid

As if they did anything anyway, they cant even be bothered to go to their office and surf the web.

I'm not as optimistic as some that all these people just quit, they know the private sector means actual work.

Posted by: Leupold at January 23, 2025 04:40 PM (4pwAx)

363 @GuntherEagleman
Holy sh*t! ICE just raided the offices of Joseph Flynn in Rhode Island.

Now do Mayorkas

Posted by: Long night... darkness lifted. at January 23, 2025 04:40 PM (2NXcZ)

364 Lol....more Lefty meltdown.

Associated Press guidance on the Gulf of Mexico and Denali name changes: The Gulf of Mexico has carried that name for more than 400 years. The Associated Press will refer to it by its original name while acknowledging the new name Trump has chosen.

The Associated Press will use the official name change to Mount McKinley. The area lies solely in the United States and as president, Trump has the authority to change federal geographical names within the country.

Fuck you, Associated Press! You've been deleted from my internet universe.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at January 23, 2025 04:40 PM (JCZqz)

365 349 >>> 336 Gunther Eagleman™
@GuntherEagleman
Holy sh*t! ICE just raided the offices of Joseph Flynn in Rhode Island.

He is a top immigration lawyer.

Heads are going to start rolling!

https://tinyurl.com/5dxryshf
Posted by: redridinghood at January 23, 2025 04:36 PM (NpAcC)

*tents fingers*

Exxxxxcellent.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 23, 2025 04:39 PM (NtUSo)

Not being a wise guy, but why would they raid him? He's not housing illegals. What are they looking for?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at January 23, 2025 04:40 PM (kvGAI)

366 of course he could do it - he was a drafted guy who knew how to shoot, the car was open and the motorcade was slowed very much by the turn around the plaza.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 23, 2025 04:37 PM (n7h9X)
_______________

Oswald was in the Marine Corps. No draftees in the Corps.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2025 04:40 PM (YqDXo)

367 Avalon Hill? Ah Austra Hungary. Speaking of AH, Austria Hungary was a bummer to get stuck with in Diplomacy
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 23, 2025 04:40 PM (fs1hN)
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It's a tough play. Be sure that you can trust Italy.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at January 23, 2025 04:40 PM (6K6Eu)

368 Migrants Not Needed: BlackRock's Fink Says 'Xenophobic' Countries Will Have Higher Standard Of Living Amid AI Revolution

"...the paradigm of negative population growth is going to be changing. And the social problems that one will have in substituting humans for machines is going to be far easier..."

Posted by: SMOD at January 23, 2025 04:41 PM (RHGPo)

369 I just had this vision! Adam Schiff in an orange jumpsuit !
Posted by: runner
......

California Dreaming

Posted by: wth at January 23, 2025 04:41 PM (v0R5T)

370 336 Gunther Eagleman™
@GuntherEagleman
Holy sh*t! ICE just raided the offices of Joseph Flynn in Rhode Island.

He is a top immigration lawyer.

Heads are going to start rolling!

https://tinyurl.com/5dxryshf
Posted by: redridinghood at January 23, 2025 04:36 PM (NpAcC)

*tents fingers*

Exxxxxcellent.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 23, 2025 04:39 PM (NtUSo)

I need fd's codpiece maker, because mine looks like it was hit with a shaped charge.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 23, 2025 04:41 PM (VwHCD)

371 325 Florida Attorney Arrested After Allegedly Going Ballistic in Prime Rib Buffet Line
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Prime Rib is exciting. Doubly so when its a buffet!!

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 23, 2025 04:41 PM (Wg6v7)

372 I would be surprised if any Federal office has complied with the EO at all.

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2025 04:35 PM (lBiKv)

My agency - among the more 'pointy end' of the Defense agencies - has been studying what it would look like for a few months now.

Were we to put everyone cheeks in seats tomorrow, we'd need more than 180 additional desks and all the office space/overhead that comes with it.

Whether we get it or not remains to be seen.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at January 23, 2025 04:41 PM (FAbrK)

373 FF's visit to Sarajevo, on the day on which the anniversary of the Field of Blackbirds is commemorated, was spectacularly badly timed.

Posted by: Henry O at January 23, 2025 04:41 PM (X5Mi4)

374 I think someone really close to Trump told him that he needed to blitzkrieg the Deep State before they have a chance to silence him.

If he gets all the Deep State laundry exposed from the last couple of generations he will definitely go down in history as an American Hero whether or not he can get things turned around economically or not.

Posted by: pawn, RIP Vic at January 23, 2025 04:41 PM (QB+5g)

375 in both cases, governors were present (John Connelly of Texas, and Oskar Portiorek, the A-H military governor of Bosnia and Herzegovina).
Posted by: Bulg at January 23, 2025 04:35 PM (77rzZ)

I once wrote up a contrafactual where Nixon survived impeachment, and Gov Connally was the "unification" candidate for the 1976 election after being Sec Treasury who turned the recession around

Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2025 04:42 PM (D7oie)

376 Only the US Intelligence Community could say, "if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it has all the hallmarks of being a duck [note: the preceding statement in no way should be construed to suggest a conclusion that we believe the object in question is, in fact, a duck]."

Posted by: Octochicken at January 23, 2025 04:42 PM (oCS0o)

377 356 Oskar Portiorek, the A-H military governor of Bosnia and Herzegovina).
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Avalon Hill? Ah Austra Hungary. Speaking of AH, Austria Hungary was a bummer to get stuck with in Diplomacy

Yeah, really hard to win with that.

Posted by: Henry O at January 23, 2025 04:43 PM (X5Mi4)

378 *tents fingers*

Exxxxxcellent.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 23, 2025 04:39 PM (NtUSo)

They raided his office, and almost immediately he resigned his role on the bench. I am thinking child porn.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 23, 2025 04:43 PM (i24o9)

379 Oskar Portiorek, the A-H military governor of Bosnia and Herzegovina).
-----

Avalon Hill? Ah Austra Hungary. Speaking of AH, Austria Hungary was a bummer to get stuck with in Diplomacy
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 23, 2025 04:40 PM (fs1hN)

Even worse in real life. Italy being a turncoat and declaring war in 1914 probably saved AH because while the balkanized population had lots of doubts about fighting fellow slavs, they all hated the Italians a lot.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 23, 2025 04:43 PM (n7h9X)

380 For three days, we had nothing on the tv except for the assassination, funeral and Oswald getting shot.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 23, 2025 04:43 PM (NQtI0)

381 Not being a wise guy, but why would they raid him? He's not housing illegals. What are they looking for?
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at January 23, 2025 04:40 PM (kvGAI)
********
He's probably doing a lot of illegal immigration crap that is against the law.
I am hoping this will send a message.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 23, 2025 04:43 PM (NpAcC)

382 More winning.

>>@jeffreyatucker
·
42m
Trump just rescinded Biden's executive orders on CBDCs. This is huge

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2025 04:43 PM (LkLld)

383 As Vindman's equally traitorous wife claimed, they didn't recieve any pardons, so I think it's already been long enough to keep them waiting in suspense, and time to throw them in a gulag for seeking out America in order to line their own pockets.

Posted by: Rbastid at January 23, 2025 04:44 PM (2Ov6+)

384 Cheri and Kindltot, if you are here - I just listened to Milei's whole speech on the WEF YouTube channel. Hooboy, that was awesome! Cheri, you were right, even better than last year's. Long live freedom, dammit!
Posted by: bluebell

Hi Bluebell! Glad you liked it - yep, with him and Trump verbally giving it to the WEF MMA style, it was beautiful!

Posted by: Cheri at January 23, 2025 04:44 PM (oiNtH)

385 nood, traitors

Posted by: fd at January 23, 2025 04:44 PM (vFG9F)

386 Dad said he could have made the Oswald shots all day and twice on Sunday.

"I wouldn't have made it back from 'Nam if I couldn't make a shot that easy."

Having seen him shoot, I believe him.

Johnson was the mastermind in my opinion.

Posted by: Sifty Boones at January 23, 2025 04:44 PM (aBVhv)

387 Nood.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 23, 2025 04:44 PM (a3Q+t)

388 Federal Government Drops COVID-19 Vaccination Requirement For Legal Immigrants

...the revocation of the COVID-19 vaccine mandate “marks a significant and positive development.”

Posted by: SMOD at January 23, 2025 04:44 PM (RHGPo)

389 yeah you have to be pure evil to think a woman might want to clean up her husbands' blood off herself.
Posted by: Oldcat

LBJ never considered other people's feelings at all. He was concerned about the optics for himself, not about Jackie. Did you read the part about 'force'. It was par for the course for LBJ. Robert Caro, his biographer, said he developed a loathing for LBJ as he wrote the definitive biography of him. Another insider, Joe Califano similarly developed a hatred for LBJ as a person.

Bobby Kennedy loathed LBJ and so on. Look up Billy Sol Estes sometimes and what he did for LBJ.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 04:44 PM (ctrM5)

390 President Trump has signed an executive order banning Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC)

Posted by: Lady in Black at January 23, 2025 04:25 PM (qBdHI)

The Globalists were drooling over CBDC. Huge setback for them and the Left.

Posted by: Ordinary American at January 23, 2025 04:44 PM (ZlOcj)

391 Not being a wise guy, but why would they raid him? He's not housing illegals. What are they looking for?
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at January 23, 2025 04:40 PM (kvGAI)

Evidence of payoffs, bribes, graft and the like to judges, law enforcement and politicians. The usual stuff.

Posted by: Bribes, Ski Trips and Whores Oh My! at January 23, 2025 04:44 PM (R/m4+)

392 Prime rib buffet?

It moved.

Posted by: eleven at January 23, 2025 04:45 PM (fV+MH)

393 There was a reenactment back when the History Channel actually showed history. A markman demonstrated that it was technically possible for Oswald to have carried it out. Whether he had help, was a patsy, or something in between is quite another question.
Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 04:32 PM (ctrM5)
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Next you are going to tell me it's technically possible to land men on the Moon!

Posted by: Conspiracy Theorist at January 23, 2025 04:45 PM (7fElN)

394 Just my thinks. Bureaucrats love anonymity. It's where they have their power. Doing anything that makes them stand out is to be avoided. That makes them a target.

Looks like Trump is making them stand out.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 23, 2025 04:45 PM (rpE+3)

395 >>He's probably doing a lot of illegal immigration crap that is against the law.
I am hoping this will send a message.

Highly likely since he was an illegal himself.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2025 04:45 PM (LkLld)

396 ------
The assertions were that LBJ was getting sex from plenty of staffers, hotel patrons, etc. Lady Bird wasn't on his radar.
Posted by: Crusader at January 23, 2025 04:33 PM (azSra)

But she did plant wildflowers, a hella lot more useful than Dr. Jill.

LBJ probably had sex with the poor beagle I felt sorry for at age 8yrs.

I will be interested to read about what is released. I did read in the past few months a time line of response from before the shooting, til the flight to DC...and it was a holy mess from top to bottom. Granted, communication in 1963 was not 2025. But lines were formed and guarded at the hospital as far as communication. The entire event was strange and I can see why conspiracy theories exist. There is a photo of some guy, friend of LBJ's, winking at him just prior to the oath. I did not like LBJ.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 23, 2025 04:45 PM (gi+MR)

397 Nood: Judge refuses to accept Trump's pardons and will not release J6 hostages.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at January 23, 2025 04:45 PM (FAbrK)

398 They raided his office, and almost immediately he resigned his role on the bench. I am thinking child porn.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 23, 2025 04:43 PM (i24o9)

Possibly human trafficking, it needs an interface to the legal world and a pretext for the regular contact. If they are rolling up trafficking rings then the world is getting better in some small way.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2025 04:46 PM (D7oie)

399 "...the paradigm of negative population growth is going to be changing. And the social problems that one will have in substituting humans for machines is going to be far easier..."
Posted by: SMOD at January 23, 2025 04:41 PM (RHGPo)

Machines don't drop anchor babies and kill Americans on the subway. Fuck Fink.

I wonder if Blackrock had a deal with Tillis?

Posted by: Long night... darkness lifted. at January 23, 2025 04:46 PM (2NXcZ)

400 he thing that most makes me think Oswald had help was Jack Ruby killing him. Somebody didn't want him talking.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 23, 2025 04:36 PM (b4o9z)

Jack Ruby was a nut who was a wannabe gangster and a big supporter of Kennedy and I guess what you'd call a Zionist or Extreme defender of Judaism/Jews. He thought he would be a hero if he killed Oswald. Also the mob would never have given him the job because again he was wacky. And lastly it was just luck that Ruby was there when they were escorting Oswald. He was supposed to have been gone 30 or so minutes prior but they were delayed.

But again I'm not ruling anything out .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 23, 2025 04:46 PM (D6PGr)

401 The Tennessee Holler
@TheTNHoller
MISSISSIPPI: “Sen. Blackmon (D) files Contraception Begins at Erection Act to make it unlawful for a person to discharge genetic material without the intent to fertilize an embryo… brings the man’s role into the conversation...”

Posted by: Mister Ghost at January 23, 2025 04:46 PM (TGPs7)

402 of course he could do it - he was a drafted guy who knew how to shoot, the car was open and the motorcade was slowed very much by the turn around the plaza.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 23, 2025 04:37 PM (n7h9X)
_______________

Oswald was in the Marine Corps. No draftees in the Corps.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 23, 2025 04:40 PM (YqDXo)

so Marines can't shoot? Do they need sand an coral nearby?

Posted by: Oldcat at January 23, 2025 04:47 PM (n7h9X)

403 397 Nood: Judge refuses to accept Trump's pardons and will not release J6 hostages.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at January 23, 2025 04:45 PM (FAbrK)

Nothing to do but arrest Huntie and James

Posted by: Long night... darkness lifted. at January 23, 2025 04:47 PM (2NXcZ)

404 >>> 365
==
Not being a wise guy, but why would they raid him? He's not housing illegals. What are they looking for?
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at January 23, 2025 04:40 PM (kvGAI)

I would guess offering material help to come to the US? Something more than offering legal help *after* someone has already gotten here.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 23, 2025 04:47 PM (NtUSo)

405 If Trump has been this prepared in 2017, and then just ignored and ridiculous Russia disinfo Mueller show et al, imagine what he would have uncovered. No doubt, much has been destroyed between then and now. Better than never. Obama/Cankkes didn't need pardons for a reason.

Posted by: Conan the Disturber at January 23, 2025 04:47 PM (qbmaU)

406 Not being a wise guy, but why would they raid him? He's not housing illegals. What are they looking for?
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless
=======
Probably pattern of illegality involving immigration judges is my guess. Sometimes attorneys that are always lucky cheat to win.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 04:47 PM (ctrM5)

407 NOOD

commie judge

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 23, 2025 04:47 PM (NtUSo)

408 The Tennessee Holler
@TheTNHoller
MISSISSIPPI: “Sen. Blackmon (D) files Contraception Begins at Erection Act to make it unlawful for a person to discharge genetic material without the intent to fertilize an embryo… brings the man’s role into the conversation...”
Posted by: Mister Ghost at January 23, 2025 04:46 PM (TGPs7)

'girlfriends' of NBA players hardest hit.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 23, 2025 04:48 PM (n7h9X)

409 339 Yeah I read and watched the Glenn story in The Right Stuff. If true, how did John Glenn become such a feckless, partisan shit bird in politics?

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov, now, where does a war hero get some lubrication around here? at January 23, 2025 04:48 PM (wBaIH)

410
"I often wonder how weak you must feel to look at Donald Trump and see strength."

-- Adam Kinzinger on Bluesky

Oh, sod off, Weepy

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 23, 2025 04:48 PM (xG4kz)

411 Two things:

I thought withholding foreign aid was an impeachable offense.

Ask McConnels chief of staff what he wants for Mitch’s vote. Mitch doesn’t know - he’s as lost as Biden. Kentucky is horse country. Do some horse tradin’.

Posted by: Java Joe at January 23, 2025 04:48 PM (WaLgG)

412 Ask McConnels chief of staff what he wants for Mitch’s vote. Mitch doesn’t know - he’s as lost as Biden. Kentucky is horse country. Do some horse tradin’.
Posted by: Java Joe at January 23, 2025 04:48 PM (WaLgG)

There must be boatloads of China Kompromat on Mitch

Posted by: Long night... darkness lifted. at January 23, 2025 04:49 PM (2NXcZ)

413 "I often wonder how weak you must feel to look at Donald Trump and see strength."

-- Adam Kinzinger on Bluesky

I don't know what your social circle is like, but I've only seen three people get shot and get immediately back up and back into the fight. All three of them are hard as hell.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at January 23, 2025 04:50 PM (FAbrK)

414 Next you are going to tell me it's technically possible to land men on the Moon!
Posted by: Conspiracy Theorist at January 23, 2025 04:45 PM (7fElN)

That was staged. They set up a camera crew on Mars to make it look accurate.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 23, 2025 04:51 PM (n7h9X)

415 Next you are going to tell me it's technically possible to land men on the Moon!
Posted by: Conspiracy Theorist
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Well, if you use courtroom rules, if we did not land, Soviets would have outed us. Statements against interests.

Regarding a lot of other things, best to keep an open mind as things long hidden sometimes come to light suddenly or the official story suddenly becomes shaky.

Conspiracy theory is what is used to deny it officially and in media and it has been used to claim true things as conspiracy theory.

Use courtroom rules of evidence and you might get a glimpse of what happened in the past but often never the whole story.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 04:51 PM (ctrM5)

416 Fucking Brennan and Clapper.

One of them (at least) is a muslim moon rock worshipping commie.

Screw those guys.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 23, 2025 04:52 PM (ufFY8)

417 he Trump team's approach to staffing the NSC "will have a chilling effect on senior policy staff across the government."

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LET THE CHILLING BEGIN!!!!!!!

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at January 23, 2025 04:54 PM (c0Mwf)

418 409 339 Yeah I read and watched the Glenn story in The Right Stuff. If true, how did John Glenn become such a feckless, partisan shit bird in politics?
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov
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Read "A Man Called Flight" . Chris Kraft's biography (he was first chief of ops at the Manned Space Flight center) and he is pretty scathing about Glenn's personality and behavior and his recounting of Scott Carpenter's sole flight in space is pretty damning.

The LBJ story is recounted elsewhere including the Right Stuff and Kraft ignored it in his autobiography possibly as he might have been the one told to put the question thru comms to Glenn himself.

Basically it was Glenn and Carpenter set against the other five original astronauts.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 04:56 PM (ctrM5)

419 I'd say having your wife's panty drawer searched by the Deep State is a pretty strong motivator.
Posted by: eleven

LE raids are infamous for "losing" things. I wonder if she ended up with missing undies.

Posted by: Cheri at January 23, 2025 04:58 PM (oiNtH)

420 Some trophies are Somebody's dick nailed to the wall.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at January 23, 2025 05:02 PM (cd9xn)

421
It looked like a large area in different directions. Then I see it and it could fit in the area that my driveway and front yard takes up. What a shock that was.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 23, 2025 04:39 PM (VwHCD)

The map is not the land. Last time I was reminded of this is when the family and I flew into Boston for a vacation. We went up Bunker Hill, and it didn't look steep or particularly commanding from the bottom of the hill. Once we got to the top however... looked dangerous as hell for the Limeys trying to climb it.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 23, 2025 05:04 PM (y9nCu)

422
Live From America TV
@LFATVUS
BREAKING! Putin says he will end the war in Ukraine and make a peace treaty IF we give them extradition powers to take Dr. Anthony Fauci to prosecute for Crimes Against Humanity! Imagine, this one move could single handedly end the war! Liberals should love this!

Posted by: Mister Ghost at January 23, 2025 05:31 PM (TGPs7)

423 Comrade Brezhnan: "Suggested" you keep referencing the use of that word in POTUS's Executive Order; I do not think it means what you think it means. Also, at what point, when it was clearly established that the laptop was as the NY Post reported, did you correct/clarify your original statement?

Posted by: DougT at January 23, 2025 06:08 PM (FGQ01)

424 But....But....BUT!!!!!

Without a Bureaucrat's Veto, Democracy dies in Darkness!!

Posted by: NOAM SAYEN at January 23, 2025 07:27 PM (YEeds)

425 419 I'd say having your wife's panty drawer searched by the Deep State is a pretty strong motivator.
Posted by: eleven
LE raids are infamous for "losing" things. I wonder if she ended up with missing undies. - Cheri

Great idea for those Office Drones in ATF/FBI/etc who no longer possess a clearance. Hunt down the SWAT raiders of Mar-a-Lago. Strike at 3 am at their Personal Residence. Drag out the wife and kids on the front lawn, tear the place apart until you find a pair of high-dollar underwear that is Melania's size. "Investigation" should take months, if done correctly....

Posted by: TxMarko at January 23, 2025 09:45 PM (7flhA)

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