Judge in CNN's Billion-Dollar Defamation Case Blasts CNN's Lawyer, Calling Him a "Liar" and Telling Him His "Credibility With Me... Is About None"

CNN's lawyer is a liar with zero credibility?

Did they promote him from within?

Note that CNN's lead lawyer is named David Axelrod. It would be just wonderful if this liar with zero credibility were Obama's campaign manager and Astroturf Engineer David Axelrod, but unfortunately this is an entirely different asshole.

The facts are a little complicated. I believe this is the gist: Young alleges that after CNN's defamatory hit-piece, he was unable to secure work for a number of years. CNN's lawyer David Axelrod called him a "liar" repeatedly in court, brandishing a piece of paper which he claimed was a "smoking gun" representing Young signing an employment contract.

But it turns out that Axelrod lied utterly about what this paper was. It was not proof that Young had secured a job. In fact, it was just a form Young signed to keep his security clearance.

And Young just found out that his security clearance had been ended -- possibly due to CNN's hit-piece. Young's lawyer moved to allow evidence to this effect, including a witness who would confirm Young's security clearance was canceled.

David Axelrod objected to this evidence, leading the judge -- exasperated by Axelrod's lies -- to blast him.

Fox:

Young's lead counsel Vel Freedman informed Judge Henry on Wednesday that his client had just learned he lost his security clearance, which had been previously renewed right after the CNN report aired. CNN's legal team had earlier suggested that Young maintaining security clearance was proof that he lied about being able to work in the wake of the CNN segment.
Freedman said Young checked his security clearance status after testifying, and discovered that he actually lost it in 2022. As a result, Freedman sought to add a witness from Helios Global, the firm that held Young's now-defunct security clearance, in order to tell jurors that the relationship "dissolved" in 2022.
CNN lead counsel David Axelrod, who shares a name with the CNN political commentator, objected to the last-minute effort. However, Freedman insisted the "jury should not be misled" and said Bay County jurors were left with the impression that Young still holds a security clearance to this day.
Axelrod insisted that he didn't mislead the jury, but Judge Henry blasted the "blatant misrepresentation" of CNN's legal team implying the security clearance document was an employment contract.
Judge Henry read aloud a transcript of Axelrod's comments from last week, in which he called the lawsuit a "fraud" and insisted Young "lied" about being able to earn income in the wake of the CNN report.

"You called him a liar multiple times there," Judge Henry said.
Judge Henry seemed annoyed that Axelrod used the security clearance document to insist Young was a "liar," but then objected to a witness who would be able to explain that Young did not actually have the clearance. Freedman told the judge that CNN "knew" Young no longer had security clearance but didn't tell the court.
"They knew it was not true," Freedman said. "CNN knew that relationship ended, knew Mr. Young did not know that relationship ended, had proof of it, failed to disclose it to the other side, and then put an expert on the stand to say he still has it."
Much like last week when similar chaos erupted, Judge Henry then called for a recess because he wanted to return to his chambers and think things over. He returned and promptly scolded Axelrod.
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"Mr. Axelrod, I don't know how many times in this transcript, I didn't bring the paper back with me, how many times you called Mr. Young a liar. But yet, in his deposition, he acknowledged having his security being held by Helios Global. Which is exactly what that document is and exactly what he testified to," Judge Henry said.
"I think an apology from you is clearly in order to Mr. Young for the number of times in front of this court, and streamed around the world, that you called Mr. Young a liar," the judge continued.
Judge Henry reminded Axelrod that he previously said he wasn't going to decide the case based on "who can sling the most mud" or who can make the other side look worse.
Judge Henry then ruled that the Helios Global representative was permitted to testify.
"I'm troubled by all of this. I'm overly concerned with the level of professionalism, or lack thereof," Judge Henry said, adding that both sides were at fault.
Judge Henry noted that Axelrod previously implied the document was a "smoking gun" in the case but contradicted himself later to suit his argument.
"Right now, your credibility with me, Mr. Axelrod, is about none," Judge Henry said.
Axelrod then apologized.
"I apologize and if you feel that I misled you, that certainly wasn't my intention," Axelrod said.

It looks like CNN should start limbering up its check-writing fingers.

That's not all the bad news. From John Sexton, CNN will also have to explain texts from its own editors expressing their profound discomfort with airing this smear-job made WITHOUT EVIDENCE:

"The story is full of holes like Swiss cheese," Lumley wrote.
"Agree. The story is 80% emotion, 20% obscured fact lol," Trimble responded.

So CNN's editors themselves say this was a bad-faith hit-job and malicious intent.

"This isn't Kindergarten." Judge is chewing out the parties. "Right now your credibility with me, Mr. Alexrod, is about none." #cnndefamationtrial pic.twitter.com/asQaBki8Dw
— Cathy Russon (@cathyrusson) January 15, 2025

Posted by: Ace at 01:25 PM

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1 First?

Posted by: NALNAMSAM at January 16, 2025 01:26 PM (i/PKH)

2 Will grab the others.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM at January 16, 2025 01:26 PM (i/PKH)

3 So he is the perfect attorney for the client.

Posted by: tankdemon at January 16, 2025 01:26 PM (TsWE7)

4 nooded

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 16, 2025 01:27 PM (5LoD7)

5 Two Axelrods and Jake Tapper walk into a biker bar...

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 16, 2025 01:27 PM (4tmpE)

6 Noodles given.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM at January 16, 2025 01:27 PM (i/PKH)

7 And Young just found out that his security clearance had been ended -- possibly due to CNN's hit-piece. Young's lawyer moved to allow evidence to this effect, including a witness who would confirm Young's security clearance was canceled.

David Axelrod objected to this evidence, leading the judge -- exasperated by Axelrod's lies -- to blast him.

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One has to wonder what kind of effect this exchange would have on a jury.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 01:27 PM (GBKbO)

8 CHEEEEESE

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle for festive little hats at January 16, 2025 01:28 PM (B/MLO)

9 So CNN's editors themselves say this was a bad-faith hit-job and malicious intent.

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I was told that old media was trustworthy because the editors were so good at their jobs.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 01:28 PM (GBKbO)

10 Called it:

ABC7 Eyewitness News
@ABC7
Order prohibiting removal of fire debris issued by LA County health officer

Posted by: Don Black at January 16, 2025 01:28 PM (AOsQT)

11 Man, got shit to do, but I have to read this.

Posted by: From about That Time at January 16, 2025 01:28 PM (RjdSJ)

12 Oh boy. I've heard a judge go off on a defense lawyer he hated once. But he didn't outright call him a liar from the bench.

That's a really bad sign. You don't want see that if you're CNN.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 16, 2025 01:29 PM (BI5O2)

13 You know what will be an obscure Trivial Pursuit question in a decade - what was CNN?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 16, 2025 01:29 PM (lTGtQ)

14
But it turns out that Axelrod lied utterly about what this paper was. It was not proof that Young had secured a job. In fact, it was just a form Young signed to get his security clearance re-approved.

That sounds like a Perry Mason trick.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 16, 2025 01:29 PM (63Dwl)

15 This isn't kindergarten.. LOL

Why do I get this vision of running around with hair on fire screaming "yes it is!!!!! screech"

Posted by: NALNAMSAM at January 16, 2025 01:29 PM (i/PKH)

16 Judges read juries.

If the judge is telling CNN this, he's telling them what the jury is thinking.

CNN is insane if they think they have a snowball's chance in hell of winning this.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 16, 2025 01:30 PM (PHvvD)

17 >>>One has to wonder what kind of effect this exchange would have on a jury.

i think the jury was out of the room.

Posted by: ace at January 16, 2025 01:30 PM (KRtlO)

18 Alo court related:
GA State Senator Moore was blocked from attending the State of the State session on order of the House Speaker. When he tried to enter the session anyway, a man wrestled with and threw him down. State troopers who were right there did nothing to the man who threw the Senator down.
Posted by: bonhomme
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Sen. Colton Moore @realColtonMoore
Senator Colton Moore, who exposed and defeated corrupt District Attorney Fani Willis last year, has been arrested by the Anti-Trump Speaker of the Georgia House.

Colton is being held in the same Atlanta jail as President Trump.
11:49 AM · Jan 16, 2025

https://tinyurl.com/282pbkze
22 seconds; violence at arrest

Luckily...

Quote tweet: Tom Fitton @TomFitton · Dec 11, 2024
Fani Willis is something else. We’ve been doing this work for 30 years, and this is the first time in our experience a government official has been found in default for not showing up in court to answer an open records lawsuit. @JudicialWatch @RealDonaldTrump

Tom Fitton @TomFitton · Jan 16
DEADLINE: Fani Willis operation must pay @JudicialWatch nearly $22,000 by tomorrow, per court order.

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 16, 2025 01:30 PM (5LoD7)

19 16 Judges read juries.

If the judge is telling CNN this, he's telling them what the jury is thinking.

CNN is insane if they think they have a snowball's chance in hell of winning this.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 16, 2025 01:30 PM (PHvvD)

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I wonder what management at WB/Discovery is thinking.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 01:31 PM (GBKbO)

20 17 >>>One has to wonder what kind of effect this exchange would have on a jury.

i think the jury was out of the room.
Posted by: ace at January 16, 2025 01:30 PM (KRtlO)

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Are they sequestered from the news?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 01:31 PM (GBKbO)

21 >>>That sounds like a Perry Mason trick.

Maybe even a Mike Brady trick.

Posted by: ace at January 16, 2025 01:31 PM (KRtlO)

22 CNN would have been better off if they had hired Lionel Hutz.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at January 16, 2025 01:31 PM (Vyll1)

23 Judge in CNN's Billion-Dollar Defamation Case Blasts CNN's Lawyer, Calling Him a "Liar"

Hey, the judge is catching on to our legal system.

Posted by: t-bird at January 16, 2025 01:32 PM (QHWjA)

24 "Who you gonna believe, ME, or your own lying eyes?"

Axelrod, on judge reading the paper evidence

Posted by: illiniwek at January 16, 2025 01:32 PM (Cus5s)

25 That's a really bad sign. You don't want see that if you're CNN.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

If you're CNN, that's a good sign. Now you've got a malpractice lawsuit against your law firm! That gets them to contribute to the verdict.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 16, 2025 01:32 PM (KAi1n)

26 Oof. I'm not following the case, but any time a judge dresses down a lawyer, questions his professionalism, says he lacks candor with the court, and says he's reserving the issue of further sanctions, that's usually not a good sign for that lawyer.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 16, 2025 01:33 PM (uCjyK)

27 That's some wild shit going down in Florida and Georgia.

Posted by: Charlie Daniels at January 16, 2025 01:33 PM (Q4IgG)

28 I apologize. I didn't mean it. It's my nature.

Posted by: David Axelrod at January 16, 2025 01:33 PM (DKIGo)

29 If he's a liar find him in contempt and disbar him.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 16, 2025 01:34 PM (NUdiI)

30 Your honor, we'd be screwed if we had a lawyer that didn't lie.

Posted by: CNN at January 16, 2025 01:34 PM (l5F6b)

31 "i think the jury was out of the room."

Now that I think about it, that makes it even weirder. All that hyperbole and emotion--that's the kind of garbage you do in front of a jury. If you're playing to a judge by doing that, that's just insane.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at January 16, 2025 01:34 PM (FEVMW)

32
Tom Fitton @TomFitton · Jan 16
DEADLINE: Fani Willis operation must pay @JudicialWatch nearly $22,000 by tomorrow, per court order.
Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 16, 2025 01:30 PM (5LoD7)

She probably keeps that much under her mattress.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 16, 2025 01:34 PM (4tmpE)

33 Can i bitch about something completely unimportant?

The people who make up the news have always done that annoying "put their age after their name" thing when the age has nothing to do with anything, ostensibly on the basis that it's to avoid any ambiguity as to who they're referring to.

And now here, where that stupid goofy practice would actually serve its purpose in differentiating scumbag the elder from scumbag the lesser, they just say "yeah no not that one the other one".

I hate journalists.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 16, 2025 01:34 PM (+iIV1)

34 Defamation of who? Trump?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 16, 2025 01:35 PM (NUdiI)

35 Perhaps the judge could send him to the time-out rooms. I bet the bailiffs know the way.

Posted by: DaveA at January 16, 2025 01:35 PM (FhXTo)

36
Looks like Axelrod is ready-made to start negotiating for the Palis. IMHO.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 16, 2025 01:35 PM (iJfKG)

37 One has to wonder what kind of effect this exchange would have on a jury.
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This was outside of the jury. Plaintiff wanted to re-open their case because they just found out what the paper he was waving actually was.
Because CNN, even though they had it, never produced it in response to discovery!

But, you know how f'ing shady you have to be as a lawyer to wave a paper--that hasn't been admitted into evidence or exchanged in discovery--in front of the jury to imply it is proof the witness is lying?

Note the end of the article, the judge holds the question of whether to impose sanctions.
Hint:
He is. And he probably going to take the rare step of imposing sanctions on both CNN and their attorney.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 16, 2025 01:36 PM (PHvvD)

38 >>>Axelrod then apologized.
>>>"I apologize and if you feel that I misled you, that certainly wasn't my intention," Axelrod said.

That's not an apology. That's a non-apology where the "apologizer" expresses regret about the wronged party having incorrect feelings.

Posted by: No Name Today at January 16, 2025 01:36 PM (vlXMQ)

39 CNN lead counsel David Axelrod, who shares a name with the CNN political commentator,
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Wait.

CNN has TWO assholes named David Axelrod?

Are they growing them in cloning tanks now?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 16, 2025 01:37 PM (7fElN)

40 Who is Zachary Young?
Young is a U.S. Navy veteran who helped evacuate Afghan citizens during the U.S. military's withdrawal from the nation. He was featured in a segment on CNN's The Lead with Jake Tapper on November 11, 2021.

Posted by: Baldy at January 16, 2025 01:37 PM (FtRGR)

41 CNN is insane if they think they have a snowball's chance in hell of winning this.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 16, 2025 01:30 PM (PHvvD)

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I wonder what management at WB/Discovery is thinking.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 01:31 PM (GBKbO)

I was asking myself the same question.

Posted by: mrp at January 16, 2025 01:37 PM (rj6Yv)

42 CNN has TWO assholes named David Axelrod?

Are they growing them in cloning tanks now?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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Boyz from Brazil.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 01:37 PM (ctrM5)

43 I'm not one to subscribe to Trump having foresight about this, but I could draw a line of "Trump urged agreeing to a bad deal because he knew Hamas would pull stunts like described." That potentially gets a "We tried to give them what was agreed to in a good deal for them, and they chose violence"
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I think Trump could be THAT smart.
Posted by: zombie at January 16, 2025 01:24 PM (pMi6S

Trump will often go with the least bad option because he KNOWS things change and therefore then he can change. It's not flip flopping it's strong leadership.

Posted by: ... at January 16, 2025 01:38 PM (ggGAr)

44 Are we sure the case is going to go a preferable way? It sounds like the judge was dressing down both sides. Which one does the judge dislike the most?

Posted by: JROD at January 16, 2025 01:38 PM (IlL6s)

45 I wonder what the etymology of "Axelrod" is. Wiki doesn't say. Does anyone know?

Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 01:38 PM (77rzZ)

46 I can’t see how Young loses this case.

I hope Jake the Snake ends up being an assistant pron theater janitor somewhere.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 16, 2025 01:38 PM (GmJua)

47 I had a lawyer call me a liar in court once while I was testifying. I wanted to call him a whore. I mean if he can call me a name unjustly, why can't I call him one?

Posted by: pawn, RIP Vic at January 16, 2025 01:38 PM (QB+5g)

48 Never let a crisis go to waste.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 16, 2025 01:38 PM (NUdiI)

49 "I'm troubled by all of this. I'm overly concerned with the level of professionalism, or lack thereof," Judge Henry said, adding that both sides were at fault.

How, exactly, were both sides at fault here?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 16, 2025 01:39 PM (lsO/a)

50 45 I wonder what the etymology of "Axelrod" is. Wiki doesn't say. Does anyone know?
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Its a rod that acts as an axel?

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 16, 2025 01:39 PM (jFCkp)

51 Jonathan Turley @JonathanTurley 4h
None of this bodes well for the network. Alienating the judge is obviously never good, but it also could have a material impact if there is an award that CNN wants reduced by a order of remittitur... jonathanturley.org/2025/01/1…

alexandriabrown @alexthechick 4h
Rule number one. Never tick off the judge.

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 16, 2025 01:39 PM (5LoD7)

52 I wonder what management at WB/Discovery is thinking.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Flush the turd to save the rest of it. Would not be surprised to see CNN peddled away as it is a dying asset that is now proving to be a liability to WB/Discovery instead of an asset.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 01:39 PM (ctrM5)

53 46 I can’t see how Young loses this case.

I hope Jake the Snake ends up being an assistant pron theater janitor somewhere.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 16, 2025 01:38 PM (GmJua)

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Young will easily win the jury trial.

A higher court will undo it all because First Amendment rights of major corporations to defame regular people with egregious lies.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 01:39 PM (GBKbO)

54 "CNN lead counsel David Axelrod, who shares a name with the CNN political commentator. "
Glad that was cleared up.
For a minute there I was thinking wtf.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 16, 2025 01:39 PM (NpAcC)

55 I hate these, "It wasn't my intent" apologies lawyers give when they're caught in a blatant lie. You said the paper proved he was employed. The paper you were holding up had nothing to do with his employment.

The judge should hold a show cause and force the lawyer to explain why he shouldn't be sanctioned.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 16, 2025 01:40 PM (Odg76)

56 She probably keeps that much under her mattress.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
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Freezer???

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 16, 2025 01:40 PM (5LoD7)

57 Commenter emeritus Alexthechick is 100% correct in that Rule #1 of court is don't tick off the judge.

Posted by: PabloD at January 16, 2025 01:40 PM (1v+Q5)

58 52 Flush the turd to save the rest of it. Would not be surprised to see CNN peddled away as it is a dying asset that is now proving to be a liability to WB/Discovery instead of an asset.
Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 01:39 PM (ctrM5)

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They're going to have trouble selling the studio space, much less the brand.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 01:40 PM (GBKbO)

59 She probably keeps that much under her mattress.

The one on her back?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle for festive little hats at January 16, 2025 01:41 PM (B/MLO)

60 Who is this judge and why is he not being cloned and deployed?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead...Wearing Pants and Working at January 16, 2025 01:41 PM (luW68)

61 ... but unfortunately this is an entirely different asshole.

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"What are the odds of two assholes with the same name?"

-- Fredo Cuomo

Posted by: ShainS -- Commie-Caused Conflagrations Created Califzuela's Chernobyl at January 16, 2025 01:41 PM (oLC2r)

62 I read that CNN tried to settle early on and Young said “oh HELL no!” For Young it’s not about the money, it’s about exposing CNN in a big way.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 16, 2025 01:41 PM (7MHHr)

63 CNN has TWO assholes named David Axelrod?

Are they growing them in cloning tanks now?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 16, 2025 01:37 PM (7fElN)

There are two Brian Stetlers too, but you only ever see one because one ate the other.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 16, 2025 01:42 PM (GmJua)

64 Are they sequestered from the news?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Cannot think of any jury sequestration in civil cases.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 01:42 PM (ctrM5)

65 ♪ ♫ ♪ Mrs Axelrods, don't name your children 'David'! ♪ ♫ ♪

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 16, 2025 01:42 PM (5LoD7)

66 @45 Bulg-probably best to look up "Axlerod" on Urban Dictionary. Might bet is it has to do with a large phallic object and ass play.

Posted by: JROD at January 16, 2025 01:42 PM (IlL6s)

67

But the people on the TV always look so professional and talk really authoritative and I believe them because of it!!!

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at January 16, 2025 01:42 PM (et1vG)

68 Axlerod seems repetitive.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 16, 2025 01:42 PM (NUdiI)

69 Judge Henry then ruled that the Helios Global representative was permitted to testify.
________________________

That could reveal something interesting. First off, did they pull it because of the CNN hit piece? Or, did CNN make a concerted effort through government contacts to have it pulled purposefully by calling in a favor or two?

Posted by: Orson at January 16, 2025 01:42 PM (dIske)

70 And one thing people repeatedly misunderstand especially regarding Trump is simple strategy is *not* 11D chess.

Trump has the confidence to push forward with a crap sandwich at times because he has good instincts and a spine which are qualities anyone would want in a leader.

And before the Fag Crew comes in accusing me of being up Trump's ass or whatever for claiming he possesses merely the most literal basic of strategic sense (eg "sure I'll debate this guy in June bring it on"), at least remember that I am among the few who has not been particularly pleased about his selection of Bondi.

Posted by: ... at January 16, 2025 01:42 PM (ggGAr)

71 "A higher court will undo it all because First Amendment rights of major corporations to defame regular people with egregious lies."

Maybe not. This case is being tried in state court in Florida.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at January 16, 2025 01:43 PM (FEVMW)

72 I haven't paid close attention to this case. Is this a federal or state court case?

Posted by: mrp at January 16, 2025 01:43 PM (rj6Yv)

73 70 And before the Fag Crew comes in accusing me of being up Trump's ass or whatever for claiming he possesses merely the most literal basic of strategic sense (eg "sure I'll debate this guy in June bring it on"), at least remember that I am among the few who has not been particularly pleased about his selection of Bondi.
Posted by: ... at January 16, 2025 01:42 PM (ggGAr)

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I think this is when I call you a poopy-head.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 01:43 PM (GBKbO)

74 Judge, don't trust Axelrod, Axelrod is assho!

Posted by: China is assho guy at January 16, 2025 01:43 PM (gWBY1)

75 I don't even get why CNN would go after this guy in the first place.

Their just vicious idiots at this point.

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2025 01:43 PM (fV+MH)

76 They're going to have trouble selling the studio space, much less the brand.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

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CNN International still has a bit of a brand name, it might be sold to foreigners if permissible by regulators. Sort of like UPI was sold to a Mexican conglomerate.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 01:43 PM (ctrM5)

77 Did CNN find the plane yet?

Posted by: Good times. Good times. at January 16, 2025 01:43 PM (DobEs)

78 32
Tom Fitton @TomFitton · Jan 16
DEADLINE: Fani Willis operation must pay @JudicialWatch nearly $22,000 by tomorrow, per court order.
Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 16, 2025 01:30 PM (5LoD7)

She probably keeps that much under her mattress.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 16, 2025 01:34 PM (4tmpE)

I bet she does. Unfortunately, her office was ordered to pay Judicial Watch, and not Fani personally.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 16, 2025 01:43 PM (lsO/a)

79 > I wonder what the etymology of "Axelrod" is. Wiki doesn't say. Does anyone know?

Grok says it's a combination of the name "Akiva" which is Jacob in English and Rod which implies staff, council, advice, or authority.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 16, 2025 01:44 PM (Odg76)

80 72 I haven't paid close attention to this case. Is this a federal or state court case?
Posted by: mrp
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State slander and libel case. Florida state courts.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 01:44 PM (ctrM5)

81 It used to be that whenever I saw the CNN logo, I heard James Earl Jones saying "This.. Is CNN"

Now whenever I see the CNN logo, I hear Entry of the Gladiators.

Weird.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at January 16, 2025 01:44 PM (4XwPj)

82 The people who knew better told the "talent" the story was bad.

Naturally, the "talent" have more sway than the people who actually know things.

Oops.

CNN will probably try to fire the people who tried to warn them and hit with a wrongful termination suit.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 16, 2025 01:44 PM (tT6L1)

83 71 "A higher court will undo it all because First Amendment rights of major corporations to defame regular people with egregious lies."

Maybe not. This case is being tried in state court in Florida.
Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey

Yeah, don't see how they can wrap themselves in the Sullivan decision as this guy was no big public figure.

Posted by: Auspex at January 16, 2025 01:44 PM (j4U/Z)

84 They're not their.

I'm getting bad about this shit lately.

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2025 01:45 PM (fV+MH)

85 I hope CNN gets to pay at least 8 figures, high 8 figures, But Axelrod needs to be disbarred.

Posted by: TJ Jackson at January 16, 2025 01:45 PM (bXvrr)

86 I think CNN is playing this out for the appeal. Any lawyer for CNN can't possibly look at this and not think settlement is the best option. CNN is getting crushed at trial. But I think CNN's strategy is to win on appeal, regardless what happens at trial.

There are many defamation cases against media companies that win at trial, only to be reversed on appeal. The appellate judges tend to view the Sullivan case as guaranteeing an almost unlimited immunity for media companies to say whatever they want.

Sullivan should be overruled. But until it is, I think CNN's strategy is to rely on it on appeal.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 16, 2025 01:45 PM (iFTx/)

87 Lube up CNN.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 16, 2025 01:45 PM (Qw2uS)

88 Bay county is an interesting place. It's kind of a backwater, heavy blue-collar, hardscrabble area. There are some rich folks there but not much work. The good ole' boys rule there.

I don't think folks there like the idea of someone screwing with someone's ability to make a living.

Posted by: pawn, RIP Vic at January 16, 2025 01:45 PM (QB+5g)

89 And Young just found out that his security clearance had been ended

That doesn't seem right.

I once had a security clearance. It was not renewed because the project I had it for had ended and management did not want to pay for its renewal. I had to turn in my badge that had the SC notation on it and had to sign papers that I understood that I was still bound to secrecy even though I no longer had a clearance.

Posted by: Chuck C at January 16, 2025 01:45 PM (D0HYP)

90 One has to wonder what kind of effect this exchange would have on a jury.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman

"We the jury find that CNN willfully and maliciously defamed Young, and that CNN Is obligated to either pay him eleventeen million dollars in damages. WE further find that attorney David Axelrod is incompetent, malicious, and a disgrace his profession and recommend that he be disbarred."

Posted by: FeatherBlade at January 16, 2025 01:45 PM (hB7mE)

91 47 I had a lawyer call me a liar in court once while I was testifying. I wanted to call him a whore. I mean if he can call me a name unjustly, why can't I call him one?
Posted by: pawn, RIP Vic at January 16, 2025 01:38 PM (QB+5g)

Ah, see, your statement would be true. That’s not allowed in courtrooms.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 16, 2025 01:45 PM (GmJua)

92 Now that I think about it, that makes it even weirder. All that hyperbole and emotion--that's the kind of garbage you do in front of a jury. If you're playing to a judge by doing that, that's just insane.
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CNN was waving the paper in front of the jury, calling the plaintiff a liar, implying to the jury that the paper he was holding was proof he was lying.
That the paper was proof he had been employed.

Then, after the plaintiff had rested (can call no more witnesses, can only cross-examine the witnesses CNN calls), CNN provided a copy of the paper.
Which was actually proof of the opposite of what CNN said it said.
But what it means needs to be explained to the jury and the doc admitted.
Plaintiff wanted to re-open their case, to put on a witness to testify about the doc.

CNN then objected, saying it hadn't been admitted and plaintiff had rested--basically pulling a fast one trying to prevent the jury from seeing the actual doc.

That's why the judge is pissed--CNN has broken several ethical, procedural and discovery rules here.
Then lied to the court, denying they called the plaintiff a liar.
I figure sanctions of $10k on the lawyer and $50k on CNN.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 16, 2025 01:45 PM (PHvvD)

93 Methinks CNN should settle this one.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 16, 2025 01:45 PM (NUdiI)

94 Commenter emeritus Alexthechick is 100% correct in that Rule #1 of court is don't tick off the judge.
Posted by: PabloD at January 16, 2025 01:40 PM (1v+Q5)

Sensible enough advice but I'm not sure what it says about our system of "justice". They are judges not referees.

Posted by: ... at January 16, 2025 01:46 PM (ggGAr)

95 Massive Trump hating asshole and WaPo cartoonist caught with AI generated child pr0n.

http://tiny.cc/oq16001

Posted by: bonhomme at January 16, 2025 01:46 PM (Odg76)

96 A fanny probe? I LOVE a good fanny probe!

Posted by: Pete BootyBoot at January 16, 2025 01:46 PM (DobEs)

97 95 Massive Trump hating asshole and WaPo cartoonist caught with AI generated child pr0n.

http://tiny.cc/oq16001
Posted by: bonhomme at January 16, 2025 01:46 PM (Odg76)

=======

The guy who thought that Republicans being mad about groomers was the same thing as Nazis being mad about Jews.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 01:46 PM (GBKbO)

98 I think this is when I call you a poopy-head.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 01:43 PM (GBKbO)

It's a gift.

Posted by: ... at January 16, 2025 01:47 PM (ggGAr)

99 Sensible enough advice but I'm not sure what it says about our system of "justice". They are judges not referees.
Posted by: ...

Next you're going to tell me that humans are frail, imperfect beings that build frail, imperfect institutions...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 16, 2025 01:47 PM (mlg/3)

100 She probably keeps that much under her mattress.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 16, 2025 01:34 PM (4tmpE)

Her father taught her that a black woman should always have 50 large in her snizz in case of emergency.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 16, 2025 01:47 PM (ExV1e)

101 @Ace "But it turns out that Axelrod lied utterly about what this paper was. It was not proof that Young had secured a job. In fact, it was just a form Young signed to keep his security clearance."

It was even worse than this -
1 - CNN knew that this paper was just about keeping his clearance, since the witness who gave it to them (under subpoena) told them that.

2 - The same witness told CNN that the clearance had since been revoked. Despite this, CNN put up an expert witness that testified that Young could still get a job in his field. (This probably ended up backfiring on them, since their expert witness conceded that if he doesn't have it he is "dead in the water" as far as getting another job.)

3 - CNN's lawyer lied about how they got the document, because he didn't want the judge and Young's team to know about the subpoena, since CNN was, at the same time, arguing (successfully) that Young's lawyer couldn't use that type of subpoena to get documents.

Posted by: ZH Cohen at January 16, 2025 01:48 PM (rVq+P)

102 Lube up CNN.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 16, 2025 01:45 PM (Qw2uS)

Way ahead of you.

Posted by: CNN at January 16, 2025 01:48 PM (ggGAr)

103 What's a CNN?

Posted by: Most People at January 16, 2025 01:48 PM (DobEs)

104 Jonathan Turley @JonathanTurley 4h
None of this bodes well for the network. Alienating the judge is obviously never good, but it also could have a material impact if there is an award that CNN wants reduced by a order of remittitur... jonathanturley.org/2025/01/1…

alexandriabrown @alexthechick 4h
Rule number one. Never tick off the judge.
Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 16, 2025 01:39 PM (5LoD7)
________

I agree. But see my comment above. CNN is resting its chances on an appeal.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 16, 2025 01:48 PM (iFTx/)

105 >>> alexandriabrown @alexthechick 4h
Rule number one. Never tick off the judge.

Everything that lovely lady just said is NOT bullshit!

Posted by: My Cousin Vinny, about to tick off the judge again at January 16, 2025 01:48 PM (gWBY1)

106 CNN is the news channel for airport people.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 16, 2025 01:49 PM (NUdiI)

107 Who is this judge and why is he not being cloned and deployed?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead...Wearing Pants and Working at January 16, 2025 01:41 PM (luW6

---------------

Judge Dread.

Posted by: ShainS -- Commie-Caused Conflagrations Created Califzuela's Chernobyl at January 16, 2025 01:49 PM (oLC2r)

108 104 I agree. But see my comment above. CNN is resting its chances on an appeal.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 16, 2025 01:48 PM (iFTx/)

=======

"Bring this case to me!!!!"
-Clarence Thomas

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 01:49 PM (GBKbO)

109 Next you're going to tell me that humans are frail, imperfect beings that build frail, imperfect institutions...
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 16, 2025 01:47 PM (mlg/3)

Without a doubt but judges are supposed to be the best of the best at what they do. How much frailty do you accept from your electrician?

Posted by: CNN at January 16, 2025 01:49 PM (ggGAr)

110 This is CNN

Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at January 16, 2025 01:49 PM (ofIy4)

111 45 I wonder what the etymology of "Axelrod" is. Wiki doesn't say. Does anyone know?

Axelrod was a divergent pronunciation from Asselrod some time in the 1740's, which was a series of shortenings of a common exchange in a small village, south of Glasgow, that went, " 'ho's that, then?" "Ach, that's that asshole, Roderick.".

Posted by: Stu Podaso at January 16, 2025 01:49 PM (2qQF1)

112 "Massive Trump hating asshole and WaPo cartoonist caught with AI generated child pr0n.

http://tiny.cc/oq16001
Posted by: bonhomme"

Lemme guess...a Pulitzer winning cartoonist, amirite?

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2025 01:49 PM (fV+MH)

113 Oh go away CNN

Posted by: ... at January 16, 2025 01:49 PM (ggGAr)

114 Practiced law for many years and thankfully never had a judge come at me like this. I may have had differences with a judge but was always respectful and never played games like Axelrod seems to have done. Now every judge he ever appears in front of will be suspicious of him. Hope CNN was worth it

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 16, 2025 01:49 PM (dR02F)

115 I think from day one, CNN's play has to be confrontational and, to be blunt, arrogant about their story... claiming they were only "reporting the facts."

Facts as they saw them. Not, you know, actual facts. Or truth. No, none of that.

And dare anyone to say differently. But now they're proving CNN and their employees are lying shit weasels.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 16, 2025 01:49 PM (Q4IgG)

116 What's a CNN?
Posted by: Most People at January 16, 2025 01:48 PM (DobEs)

They should change their name. It should be CBTN: Can't Be True Network

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at January 16, 2025 01:49 PM (VNX3d)

117 75 I don't even get why CNN would go after this guy in the first place.

Their just vicious idiots at this point.
Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2025 01:43 PM (fV+MH)
________________________

Young's work was making the Biden Administration look completely inept on the Afghanistan withdraw (which it was). CNN was running cover for Biden since Day 1. Republicans were highlighting Young's work....and other enterprising retired SO's who were getting at risk people out that were abandoned (interpreters and the like). I tend to recall Glenn Beck being involved somehow financing these rescues.

Posted by: Orson at January 16, 2025 01:49 PM (dIske)

118 97 95 Massive Trump hating asshole and WaPo cartoonist caught with AI generated child pr0n.

http://tiny.cc/oq16001
Posted by: bonhomme at January 16, 2025 01:46 PM (Odg76)

=======

The guy who thought that Republicans being mad about groomers was the same thing as Nazis being mad about Jews.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 01:46 PM (GBKbO)

OUT: woodchipper
IN: pencil sharpener

Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 16, 2025 01:50 PM (wtvvX)

119 *always have 50 large in her snizz*

She can DO that?

Posted by: My twelve year old self at January 16, 2025 01:50 PM (DobEs)

120 Massive Trump hating asshole and WaPo cartoonist caught with AI generated child pr0n.

http://tiny.cc/oq16001
Posted by: bonhomme at January 16, 2025 01:46 PM (Odg76)

=======

The guy who thought that Republicans being mad about groomers was the same thing as Nazis being mad about Jews.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 01:46 PM (GBKbO)
________

Odds this creep's a fag and the kiddie porn was young boys? High.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 16, 2025 01:50 PM (iFTx/)

121 97 95 Massive Trump hating asshole and WaPo cartoonist caught with AI generated child pr0n.”

Well there’s a new category of perversion I never knew existed. But I try not to think of such things.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 16, 2025 01:50 PM (7MHHr)

122 The guy who thought that Republicans being mad about groomers was the same thing as Nazis being mad about Jews.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 01:46 PM (GBKbO)

Thought - or said? With leftists these are two very different things.

Posted by: ... at January 16, 2025 01:50 PM (ggGAr)

123 "David Axelrod" is a very unserious name for a lawyer.

Jimmy Johnsonbar would carry much more gravitas.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 16, 2025 01:50 PM (8zz6B)

124 RIP David Lynch of Twin Peaks and Blue Velvet fame has died at 78.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 16, 2025 01:51 PM (4tmpE)

125 "Right now your credibility with me, Mr. Alexrod, is about none."

Judge doesn't even believe Axelrod is his real name.

Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at January 16, 2025 01:51 PM (ZwuMZ)

126 So I can't stick my dick in crazy and I can't call the judge a fat stupid homo?

You people and your rules.

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2025 01:51 PM (fV+MH)

127 Commenter emeritus Alexthechick is 100% correct in that Rule #1 of court is don't tick off the judge.
Posted by: PabloD at January 16, 2025 01:40 PM (1v+Q5)

According to the AOSHQ style guide, the correct way to say this is - Commenter emeritus Alexthechick Johnson is...

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 16, 2025 01:51 PM (ExV1e)

128 Bob Uecker as well.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 16, 2025 01:52 PM (NUdiI)

129 No one is going to buy CNN with this thing hanging on appeal. Just the costs associated with an appeal are a bad mark.

Posted by: pawn, RIP Vic at January 16, 2025 01:52 PM (QB+5g)

130 86 I think CNN is playing this out for the appeal. Any lawyer for CNN can't possibly look at this and not think settlement is the best option. CNN is getting crushed at trial. But I think CNN's strategy is to win on appeal, regardless what happens at trial.

There are many defamation cases against media companies that win at trial, only to be reversed on appeal. The appellate judges tend to view the Sullivan case as guaranteeing an almost unlimited immunity for media companies to say whatever they want.

Sullivan should be overruled. But until it is, I think CNN's strategy is to rely on it on appeal.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 16, 2025 01:45 PM (iFTx/)

Agreed. However, I'm thinking that the plaintiff wouldn't mind arguing this all the way to SCOTUS if necessary. He already said that he wouldn't settle when the case started. Now that he smells blood in the water, he may not want to settle now either.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 16, 2025 01:52 PM (lsO/a)

131 122 The guy who thought that Republicans being mad about groomers was the same thing as Nazis being mad about Jews.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 01:46 PM (GBKbO)

Thought - or said? With leftists these are two very different things.
Posted by: ... at January 16, 2025 01:50 PM (ggGAr)

=======

Made a comic about it:

https://instapundit.com/696600

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 01:52 PM (GBKbO)

132
EM KIDNEY BEAN FOADDY SEBUN1!!!11!

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at January 16, 2025 01:52 PM (5hfjS)

133 >>> Massive Trump hating asshole and WaPo cartoonist caught with AI generated child pr0n.
http://tiny.cc/oq16001

It's getting to the point where I'm going to just start assuming that anyone that objects to conservatives having a hard line about child grooming and trafficking had child porn.

And after the Gaiman allegations in the NY Mag article, any leftist artist screeching about women's rights and believe all women is really just abusing them. We are to that point.

Posted by: LizLem at January 16, 2025 01:52 PM (gWBY1)

134 The owls are not what they seem.

Posted by: Zombie David Lynch at January 16, 2025 01:53 PM (DDkS0)

135 Commenter emeritus Alexthechick is 100% incorrect in that she failed to specify 'in court'.

Posted by: From about That Time at January 16, 2025 01:53 PM (RjdSJ)

136 Practiced law for many years and thankfully never had a judge come at me like this. I may have had differences with a judge but was always respectful and never played games like Axelrod seems to have done. Now every judge he ever appears in front of will be suspicious of him. Hope CNN was worth it
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Yup.
After Rule #1, don't piss off the judge is Rule #2, judges talk to each other.
This guy burned his professional reputation for a shit case.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 16, 2025 01:53 PM (PHvvD)

137 Benny Johnson
@bennyjohnson

Anti-Trump Paul Ryan ROASTED to his FACE Live on CNBC, called out for being a ‘Democrat’

“Now you're calling for unity!? Would've been nice before the election. You said, 'I want Trump to succeed.' You sound like a Democrat!"

Ryan on the verge of tears:

https://tinyurl.com/29shfcbw

Posted by: redridinghood at January 16, 2025 01:53 PM (NpAcC)

138 One has to wonder what kind of effect this exchange would have on a jury.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

It would be an automatic finding that cnn owed Young what3ver he asked for multiplied by 10^11111.

Fuck with my clearence, you fuck with my livlihood and ability to provide for my family. That is a fuck you, war move from where Bif sits.

Posted by: BifBewalski at January 16, 2025 01:53 PM (rl/Q/)

139 "Young's work was making the Biden Administration look completely inept on the Afghanistan withdraw (which it was). CNN was running cover for Biden since Day 1. Republicans were highlighting Young's work....and other enterprising retired SO's who were getting at risk people out that were abandoned (interpreters and the like). I tend to recall Glenn Beck being involved somehow financing these rescues.
Posted by: Orson"

Ahhh...thank you Orson.

I sherpas people. Don't judge.

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2025 01:53 PM (fV+MH)

140
Sorry to hear of the passing of Bob Ueker, a truly funny, self deprecating man and better than advertised baseball player.

Once while on the air a bloviating Howard Cosell referred to someone as "truculent" and, talking down to Ueker, asked him if he knew what that meant.

"Sure, Howard! If you had a pick-up and I borrowed it, that would be a truck you lent."

Posted by: Auspex at January 16, 2025 01:53 PM (j4U/Z)

141 As I stated in a comment yesterday, albeit on a different subject, without consequences the behavior will continue.
Progressives have used this tactic to great advantage, especially regarding lawfare in a favorable jurisdiction to unfairly pursue their ideological adversaries.
I had to turn off Pam Bondi’s confirmation hearing.

Posted by: Unkaren at January 16, 2025 01:53 PM (PksB3)

142 Maybe not. This case is being tried in state court in Florida.
Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at January 16, 2025 01:43 PM (FEVMW)

Federal courts always get the opportunity to piss in the oatmeal.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 16, 2025 01:54 PM (ExV1e)

143 Funny thing CNN has been begging to settle.
Young and his legal team has say no way..
The cost is 1 billion.

Posted by: Redenzo at January 16, 2025 01:54 PM (V/pbu)

144 "...stick my dick in crazy and I can't call the judge a fat stupid homo...?

Was that wrong?
Should I not have done that?

Posted by: Costanza Defense at January 16, 2025 01:54 PM (DobEs)

145 "Bring this case to me!!!!"
-Clarence Thomas
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 01:49 PM (GBKbO)

Yep. Justice Thomas has put media libel law review on the front burner for some time now. A perfect case for the High Court of the Land unless CNN management comes to its sense with a successful frontal lobotomy procedure.

Posted by: mrp at January 16, 2025 01:54 PM (rj6Yv)

146 >>> OUT: woodchipper
IN: pencil sharpener

False... we can have BOTH! Behold the power of both.

Posted by: LizLem at January 16, 2025 01:54 PM (gWBY1)

147 106 CNN is the news channel for airport people.
----------------
Oddly, at every 0-6 command and above it is on 24/7 in the lobby throughout DoD.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 16, 2025 01:54 PM (jFCkp)

148 What else would you expect from a Leftist, they lie with the ease you breath

Posted by: Skip at January 16, 2025 01:55 PM (fwDg9)

149 Crap, the NY judges love my antics. Why is this trial in Florida?

Posted by: David Axelrod Esq at January 16, 2025 01:55 PM (YPSb3)

150 145 Yep. Justice Thomas has put media libel law review on the front burner for some time now. A perfect case for the High Court of the Land unless CNN management comes to its sense with a successful frontal lobotomy procedure.
Posted by: mrp at January 16, 2025 01:54 PM (rj6Yv)

======

Seemingly, Young doesn't want to settle. He wants a judgment.

I don't think CNN can back out.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 01:55 PM (GBKbO)

151 I agree. But see my comment above. CNN is resting its chances on an appeal.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 16, 2025 01:48 PM (iFTx/)

=======

"Bring this case to me!!!!"
-Clarence Thomas
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 01:49 PM (GBKbO)
_______

Thomas hates Sullivan, IIRC. He is correct in that regard. Sullivan was suspect the day it was rendered, and is now completely obsolete and unreasonable today.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 16, 2025 01:55 PM (iFTx/)

152 Speaking of crying imbeciles whatever happened to Jibbering John Boehner

Posted by: ... at January 16, 2025 01:55 PM (ggGAr)

153 "Just a bit outside."

Posted by: Classic Ueker at January 16, 2025 01:55 PM (DobEs)

154 So I can't stick my dick in crazy and I can't call the judge a fat stupid homo?

You people and your rules.

Posted by: eleven
_________

They both get you held in contempt.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 16, 2025 01:55 PM (KqdAf)

155 Of course he's a liar. He represents The CNN.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at January 16, 2025 01:56 PM (KIZT4)

156 Ryan on the verge of tears
Posted by: redridinghood

Cake Girl left him?

Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 01:56 PM (77rzZ)

157 Actual NYT headline:

"Pedophilia: A disorder not a crime."

Millstone, neck. Dome assembly required.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 16, 2025 01:56 PM (2UnvF)

158 It's not just in Florida.
It's in the Florida PANHANDLE.

Posted by: Real people at January 16, 2025 01:56 PM (DobEs)

159 The judge is not mad because shithead the lesser is a lying inept imbecile.

He's mad because his job is to sit there and pretend to listen to all this crap and then rubber stamp whatever bullshit the junta says to.

Lying inept imbeciles make it difficult for him to do that and maintain at least some aura of authority. So of course he's angry.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 16, 2025 01:57 PM (+iIV1)

160 California air resources board has just withdrawn their request to the EPA to phase out diesel trucks in the state.

I guess this means there now is a slight possibility of rebuilding, at least on the materials side.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 16, 2025 01:57 PM (lTGtQ)

161 Seemingly, Young doesn't want to settle. He wants a judgment.

I don't think CNN can back out.
--------------------
We're caught in a trap
I can't walk out
Because I love you too much, baby

Why can't you see
What you're doing to me
When you don't believe a word I say?

We can't go on together
With suspicious minds (with suspicious minds)
And we can't build our dreams
On suspicious minds

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 16, 2025 01:57 PM (jFCkp)

162 Leftardism should be a disorder AND a crime.

Posted by: ... at January 16, 2025 01:58 PM (ggGAr)

163 158 It's not just in Florida.
It's in the Florida PANHANDLE.
-------------
That is some interesting people.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 16, 2025 01:58 PM (jFCkp)

164 >>> Ryan on the verge of tears
Posted by: redridinghood
Cake Girl left him? Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 01:56 PM (77rzZ)

Cake girl's Ryan > Weasley snake Paul Ryan

Posted by: LizLem at January 16, 2025 01:59 PM (gWBY1)

165 Seemingly, Young doesn't want to settle. He wants a judgment.

----
Sometimes it's about sending a message.

There are times when a man simply cannot be bought off because his principles are far more valuable to him.

For Young, this may be that time.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 16, 2025 01:59 PM (7fElN)

166 Judge in CNN's Billion-Dollar Defamation Case Blasts CNN's Lawyer, Calling Him a "Liar" and Telling Him His "Credibility With Me... Is About None"
---
We need controls on misinformation!

We need somebody to find that this is misinformation and then forbid people to propagate this on social media!

Posted by: Jake Tapher at January 16, 2025 01:59 PM (krQz2)

167 Made a comic about it:

pretty epic self own there

Posted by: DanMan at January 16, 2025 01:59 PM (8uzBS)

168 To quote a famous man - "Prepare your anus"

I hope he wins this case, and gets many, many, many zeroes after the first number.

Posted by: Pinochet Flight Attendant at January 16, 2025 02:00 PM (zL/eJ)

169 23 Judge in CNN's Billion-Dollar Defamation Case Blasts CNN's Lawyer, Calling Him a "Liar"

Hey, the judge is catching on to our legal system.
Posted by: t-bird at January 16, 2025 01:32 PM (QHWjA)

Around these parts "liar" is how "lawyer" is pronounced. With a bit of a twang.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at January 16, 2025 02:00 PM (8Tg9z)

170 45 I wonder what the etymology of "Axelrod" is. Wiki doesn't say. Does anyone know?

Axelrod was a divergent pronunciation from Asselrod some time in the 1740's, which was a series of shortenings of a common exchange in a small village, south of Glasgow, that went, " 'ho's that, then?" "Ach, that's that asshole, Roderick.".
Posted by: Stu Podaso at January 16, 2025 01:49 PM (2qQF1)

*Applause*

Posted by: LASue at January 16, 2025 02:00 PM (lCppi)

171
So does CNN sign the pink slip over to Mr Young as payment?

Posted by: Frank Barone at January 16, 2025 02:00 PM (+oR7L)

172 Cake Girl left him?
Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 01:56 PM (77rzZ)
*******
He's now on the outside looking in. Nobody wants to be associated with him. He is toxic.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 16, 2025 02:01 PM (NpAcC)

173 There are many defamation cases against media companies that win at trial, only to be reversed on appeal. The appellate judges tend to view the Sullivan case as guaranteeing an almost unlimited immunity for media companies to say whatever they want.

Sullivan should be overruled. But until it is, I think CNN's strategy is to rely on it on appeal.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 16, 2025 01:45 PM (iFTx/)

Agreed. However, I'm thinking that the plaintiff wouldn't mind arguing this all the way to SCOTUS if necessary. He already said that he wouldn't settle when the case started. Now that he smells blood in the water, he may not want to settle now either.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 16, 2025 01:52 PM (lsO/a)
________

Plaintiffs always say that, though. They always settle if the price is right. As I understand it, Young is presenting his case, and then CNN presents theirs. So CNN and its lawyer still has time to rehab their image and defense, which reduces settlement value.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 16, 2025 02:01 PM (iFTx/)

174 Frap, I gotta go get ready for the day. Be good to each other! I hope nothing too crazy news wise happens while I'm busy.

Who is next in the hot seat for senate confirmations? And what day is Tulsi's confirmation since they postponed it? Excited to see her take the stand.

Posted by: LizLem at January 16, 2025 02:01 PM (gWBY1)

175 "Pedophilia: A disorder not a crime."

Millstone, neck. Dome assembly required.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 16, 2025 01:56 PM (2UnvF)
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Unreal. I guess the physical harm, not to mention the serious psychological problem, which occurs to the victim, is barely an inconvenience.

Saying stuff like this is demonic.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 16, 2025 02:01 PM (tT6L1)

176 I couldn't find any verification of the NYT saying that.

That would be insane if they did.

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2025 02:02 PM (fV+MH)

177 If you wear a Devo Energy Dome to court will the Judge get upset?

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 16, 2025 02:03 PM (jFCkp)

178 at least remember that I am among the few who has not been particularly pleased about his selection of Bondi.

Posted by: ... at January 16, 2025 01:42 PM (ggGAr)

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Next you'll be reminding us that neither you nor I were particularly pleased about his selection of Mike Pence.

Posted by: ShainS -- Commie-Caused Conflagrations Created Califzuela's Chernobyl at January 16, 2025 02:03 PM (WSwNN)

179 158 It's not just in Florida.
It's in the Florida PANHANDLE.
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That is some interesting people.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 16, 2025 01:58 PM (jFCkp)

Agreed. That's where Pooky's cousin went to college, and the college was so conservative that all dates were chaperoned and parties had to fill out paperwork ahead of time.

Posted by: pookysgirl, award-winning Ette at January 16, 2025 02:03 PM (dtlDP)

180 Speaking of crying imbeciles whatever happened to Jibbering John Boehner

pot legalization advocate comes to mind

Posted by: DanMan at January 16, 2025 02:03 PM (8uzBS)

181 I agree. But see my comment above. CNN is resting its chances on an appeal.
Posted by: Elric The Blade
========
Not particularly good for CNN, they will have to appeal up the ladder in Florida, not in federal court.

They are going to have to settle to stop the bleeding.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 02:03 PM (ctrM5)

182 I'm just now seeing that Chick-Fil-A has ruined their waffle fries. Sad.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at January 16, 2025 02:03 PM (DTX3h)

183 Plaintiffs always say that, though. They always settle if the price is right. As I understand it, Young is presenting his case, and then CNN presents theirs. So CNN and its lawyer still has time to rehab their image and defense, which reduces settlement value.
Posted by: Elric The Blade

One of the corporate lawyers I worked for told me that the thing that lawyers most hate to hear from a client is "Money is no object."

Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 02:03 PM (77rzZ)

184 "Pedophilia: A disorder not a crime."

Except if you act out your "disorder" it's a crime

Posted by: It's me donna at January 16, 2025 02:03 PM (VE6XX)

185 pretty epic self own there
Posted by: DanMan at January 16, 2025 01:59 PM (8uzBS)

More like a confession

Posted by: ... at January 16, 2025 02:04 PM (ggGAr)

186 Cake girl's Ryan > Weasley snake Paul Ryan
Posted by: LizLem at January 16, 2025 01:59 PM (gWBY1)
*******
Thinking of Trump reading the poem, The Snake.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 16, 2025 02:04 PM (NpAcC)

187 Psychopathy is a disorder.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 16, 2025 02:04 PM (NUdiI)

188 Next you'll be reminding us that neither you nor I were particularly pleased about his selection of Mike Pence.

Posted by: ShainS -- Commie-Caused Conflagrations Created Califzuela's Chernobyl at January 16, 2025 02:03 PM (WSwNN)

LOL we try not to talk about that

Posted by: ... at January 16, 2025 02:05 PM (ggGAr)

189 Posted by: pookysgirl, award-winning Ette at January 16, 2025 02:03 PM (dtlDP)

PG, how are you? Haven't seen you around here in a while. How's Lil Pooky?

Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 02:05 PM (77rzZ)

190 When the judge recesses to his chamber and returns with a barb-wire wrapped pineapple and hands it to the defense attorneys, then the trial will really be lit.

Posted by: Roy at January 16, 2025 02:05 PM (z+ik4)

191 I'd like to know if there are some cases which are so toxic, the lawyers demand huge up front fees, because they know it may be difficult to work again after the case is over.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 16, 2025 02:05 PM (tT6L1)

192 Sorry but those waffle fries were pretty ruined already.

Not for everyone.

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2025 02:05 PM (fV+MH)

193 It would be just wonderful if this liar with zero credibility were Obama's campaign manager and Astroturf Engineer David Axelrod, but unfortunately this is an entirely different asshole.
.......

Good job, Ace.
There are just too many for me to keep track of.

Posted by: wth at January 16, 2025 02:05 PM (v0R5T)

194 182 I'm just now seeing that Chick-Fil-A has ruined their waffle fries. Sad.
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How did they do this? And how are waffle fries made?

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 16, 2025 02:05 PM (jFCkp)

195 Plaintiffs always say that, though. They always settle if the price is right. As I understand it, Young is presenting his case, and then CNN presents theirs. So CNN and its lawyer still has time to rehab their image and defense, which reduces settlement value.
Posted by: Elric The Blade

One of the corporate lawyers I worked for told me that the thing that lawyers most hate to hear from a client is "Money is no object."
Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 02:03 PM (77rzZ)
______

He is correct. I hated to hear that too.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 16, 2025 02:05 PM (iFTx/)

196 Ruined Waftos? How?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 16, 2025 02:06 PM (NUdiI)

197 Heard a compressed version of the history of Israel during the Kings era, that I thought was interesting.

When Israel joined their neighbors in idolatry and killing babies, there were bad times. When they reformed and stopped killing babies, God granted renewal.

Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 02:06 PM (krQz2)

198 Millstone, neck. Dome assembly required.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 16, 2025 01:56 PM (2UnvF)

Hey man, that's my line!

Posted by: pookysgirl, Mama Bear at January 16, 2025 02:06 PM (dtlDP)

199 He's now on the outside looking in. Nobody wants to be associated with him. He is toxic.

So many people purported to be on the right threw away everything because they couldn't stand the thought of doing what the people wanted.

They all thought Trump's success was because he is a bit of a huckster and they couldn't possibly want all these things they've been agitating for for decades. Top. Men.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 16, 2025 02:07 PM (ExV1e)

200 200

Posted by: m at January 16, 2025 02:07 PM (VnUSN)

201 How did they do this? And how are waffle fries made?
Posted by: Pudinhead at January 16, 2025 02:05 PM (jFCkp)

Regular fries and a little tiny grease-proof loom expertly manipulated by a Costa Rican midget.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 16, 2025 02:07 PM (+iIV1)

202 Really am going to go, but one last thing...

Just found out recently that a teen in my life was hit on by a teacher at school. Teen is straight so deflected the attempt, but didn't tell anyone. The teacher has now been suddenly suspended and pulled from teaching at the school, but they won't say why.

I can guess why the teacher was suspended. I'm praying hard that some other poor kids weren't caught in their web of grooming. There is an unfortunate lack of perfect millstones in the world.

Posted by: LizLem at January 16, 2025 02:07 PM (gWBY1)

203 Dome assembly is easier said than done.

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2025 02:08 PM (fV+MH)

204 When Israel joined their neighbors in idolatry and killing babies, there were bad times. When they reformed and stopped killing babies, God granted renewal.
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So baby killers have ruined waffle fries?

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 16, 2025 02:08 PM (jFCkp)

205 Young may also be avoiding a settlement because he knows settlements always come with a "no admission of wrongdoing" rider of some sort.

It's possible Young not only wants the cash, he also wants CNN convicted in a court of law.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 16, 2025 02:08 PM (tT6L1)

206 So some illegals in NY are busted for selling illegal guns. Apparently they sold 11 different guns since last October.
Hell, I'd call 11 guns a good start.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 16, 2025 02:09 PM (W/lyH)

207 Some independent restaurants have been serving up Chick Fil Aa waffle fries since the late 80's.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 16, 2025 02:09 PM (NUdiI)

208 I had no idea Pence was the pussy he turned out to be. My hunch is Pence was picked because he was thought of as being epically uncontroversial.

Turn out he's even more epically isolated.

Posted by: DanMan at January 16, 2025 02:09 PM (8uzBS)

209 So some illegals in NY are busted for selling illegal guns. Apparently they sold 11 different guns since last October.
Hell, I'd call 11 guns a good start.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 16, 2025 02:09 PM (W/lyH)
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So less than a dozen guns.

Posted by: Martha RadDITZ at January 16, 2025 02:10 PM (krQz2)

210 "Pedophilia: A disorder not a crime."

I get the argument. One cannot help that which revs one's engine. And if they were capable to feeling the desire but not acting on it, people might be grossed out but willing to permit you to continue breathing.

But they always act on it. And that can never be permitted.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 16, 2025 02:10 PM (ExV1e)

211 LizLem- sadly most likely

Posted by: Skip at January 16, 2025 02:11 PM (fwDg9)

212 Also Elric.
A lot of those appellate media cases like Westmoreland v. CBS were in the era where there was not IM and email and journalists were regarded as having more professional standing and standards.

A manager LOLing in an email about a story having problems is de facto evidence of reckless disregard of the truth or malice. And it was not just one internal document but multiple ones.

The courtroom trick was also a stupid one to try as it cast aside the mantle of innocence by CNN. The premise is if your lawyers lie in court and mislead the judge, then what else is CNN capable of.

About the same effect as moving a perp's body outside to halfway inside a home to claim self defense.

In this era, too few lawyers view themselves as officers of the court bound by propriety and boundaries as a professional.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 02:11 PM (ctrM5)

213 Pea starch ftw.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 16, 2025 02:11 PM (NUdiI)

214 I'm just now seeing that Chick-Fil-A has ruined their waffle fries. Sad.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at January 16, 2025 02:03 PM (DTX3h)

In what way?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 16, 2025 02:11 PM (ExV1e)

215 How did they do this?

You didn't shine the shoes of a rando black man.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle for festive little hats at January 16, 2025 02:11 PM (B/MLO)

216 I had no idea Pence was the pussy he turned out to be. My hunch is Pence was picked because he was thought of as being epically uncontroversial.

Posted by: DanMan at January 16, 2025 02:09 PM (8uzBS)
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While still in Indiana, I regarded him as Lawn Chair Mike Pence.

The left decided to launch a campaign against the religious reform bill by saying that it *allowed* religious-based bullying.

The only chance I gave him was *because* Trump picked him.
And he got flummoxed and backed down.

Posted by: Martha RadDITZ at January 16, 2025 02:12 PM (krQz2)

217 The Judge is doing the ‘both sides thing’ which aggravates the crap out of me.

It’s like saying both sides do it when comparing the Left and Right. No motherfuckers. They ain’t close to being the same.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 16, 2025 02:12 PM (D6PGr)

218 215 How did they do this?

You didn't shine the shoes of a rando black man.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle for festive little hats at January 16, 2025 02:11 PM (B/MLO)

Yeah you try touching a brother's kicks and see what happens.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 16, 2025 02:12 PM (+iIV1)

219 So some illegals in NY are busted for selling illegal guns. Apparently they sold 11 different guns since last October.
Hell, I'd call 11 guns a good start.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 16, 2025 02:09 PM (W/lyH)
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So less than a dozen guns.

Posted by: Martha RadDITZ

Just a handful, really, Martha.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 16, 2025 02:12 PM (lTGtQ)

220
I'd love to see him settle for $200M and 100% ownership of CNN. Then purge the CNN staff on live TV like Saddam did with the Baath Party a week after assuming power.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 16, 2025 02:12 PM (y9nCu)

221 I'm just now seeing that Chick-Fil-A has ruined their waffle fries. Sad.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at January 16, 2025 02:03 PM (DTX3h)

In what way?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 16, 2025 02:11 PM (ExV1e)
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Diversity of ingredients

Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 02:13 PM (krQz2)

222 Whenever the Left gets caught red-handed that's when you can count on them to bring out the disingenuous "both sides" crap.

Posted by: ... at January 16, 2025 02:14 PM (ggGAr)

223 Diversity of ingredients
Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 02:13 PM (krQz2)

Beyond Potatoes.

Just like potatoes. But made in a lab with various algae, diatoms, and household cleaning products.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 16, 2025 02:14 PM (+iIV1)

224 Speaking of crying imbeciles whatever happened to Jibbering John Boehner

Posted by: ... at January 16, 2025 01:55 PM (ggGAr)

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Doing Big Pharma commercials for tranny estrogen treatments in France?

Posted by: ShainS -- Commie-Caused Conflagrations Created Califzuela's Chernobyl at January 16, 2025 02:14 PM (LKdXO)

225 Pea Starch which some have a food allergy to

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 16, 2025 02:14 PM (NUdiI)

226 In case my wording was confusing: the teen wouldn't have given into the teacher if they were also gay. They know it's wrong and gross for any teacher to hit on them. I'm just saying it's weird they tried to hit on a teen that is straight. I think they would have come forward if they had any proof, but it happened fast and it's not like they recorded it.

This teacher had access to kids at away school events. And some overnight events that involved travel. I hate all of this.

Ok, off for reals!

Posted by: LizLem at January 16, 2025 02:14 PM (gWBY1)

227 Stephen L. Miller retweeted
David Lynch
@DAVID_LYNCH
10 Feb 2009
Thought of the Day: We are like the spider. We weave our life & move along it. We are like the dreamer who dreams & then lives in the dream.

Posted by: m at January 16, 2025 02:14 PM (VnUSN)

228 223 Diversity of ingredients
Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 02:13 PM (krQz2)

Beyond Potatoes.

Just like potatoes. But made in a lab with various algae, diatoms, and household cleaning products.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 16, 2025 02:14 PM (+iIV1)

It's a floor wax!

Posted by: m at January 16, 2025 02:15 PM (VnUSN)

229 "Pedophilia: A disorder not a crime."
_________________________

It's both a disorder AND a crime. Kleptomania is a disorder AND a crime. Pathological lying is a disorder AND (in some settings such as Court) a crime.

However, if the enablers of the NYT's are adamant about the issue and insist that is merely a disorder. Fine. I have a cure. Which may, or may not be a crime.

Posted by: Orson at January 16, 2025 02:15 PM (dIske)

230 Damn, now I want waffle fries.

Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 02:15 PM (77rzZ)

231 225 Pea Starch which some have a food allergy to
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 16, 2025 02:14 PM (NUdiI)

Imagine having to go through life constantly saying "Oh god this tastes like pea, is there pea in here? You know I can't have pea!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 16, 2025 02:15 PM (+iIV1)

232 PG, how are you? Haven't seen you around here in a while. How's Lil Pooky?

Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 02:05 PM (77rzZ)

Lil Pooky is growing fast! His hernia surgery is on Monday, and we all just want it to be over with.

His laugh is somewhere between a cough and a hiccup, and we hear it at least once a day. Who knew rubbing noses was the funniest thing ever?

Posted by: pookysgirl, Mama Bear at January 16, 2025 02:15 PM (dtlDP)

233 Chick-fil-A previously announced it would make “a slight adjustment” to its Waffle Potato Fries by adding pea starch to the coating. The move is meant to keep them “crispier, longer” while maintaining the “same great taste.” Some customers, however, seemingly disagree.

They are peaing in the waffle fries of the people that live there.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 16, 2025 02:16 PM (jFCkp)

234 "Pea Starch which some have a food allergy to
Posted by: Boss Moss"

People who wear fannypacks?

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2025 02:17 PM (fV+MH)

235 Beyond Potatoes.

Just like potatoes. But made in a lab with various algae, diatoms, and household cleaning products.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 16, 2025 02:14 PM

Speaking of that, what's Tater's Take(tm) on this?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 16, 2025 02:17 PM (a3Q+t)

236 Beyond Potatoes.

Just like potatoes. But made in a lab with various algae, diatoms, and household cleaning products.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 16, 2025 02:14 PM (+iIV1)

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And Yellow Dye No. 5

Posted by: ShainS -- Commie-Caused Conflagrations Created Califzuela's Chernobyl at January 16, 2025 02:17 PM (LKdXO)

237 Damn, now I want waffle fries.
Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 02:15 PM (77rzZ

Meh.
I'm the only one in my family that does not like Chix fil A.
Ick.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 16, 2025 02:17 PM (W/lyH)

238 182 I'm just now seeing that Chick-Fil-A has ruined their waffle fries. Sad.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at January 16, 2025 02:03 PM

Another grim milestone of the Biden - Emhoff administration.

Posted by: And a Dark Winter at January 16, 2025 02:17 PM (DobEs)

239 Pea Starch which some have a food allergy to

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 16, 2025 02:14 PM (NUdiI)
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They really are trying to kill me.

I have a mid-level peanut allergy--but I learned that many peanut oils can be completely separated from peanut protein.

But peanuts are legumes, so they are the tail of my allergy to legumes. Which peas are front and center.

Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 02:17 PM (krQz2)

240 210 "Pedophilia: A disorder not a crime."

I get the argument. One cannot help that which revs one's engine. And if they were capable to feeling the desire but not acting on it, people might be grossed out but willing to permit you to continue breathing.

But they always act on it. And that can never be permitted.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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Arguing a disorder compels one to do so is rejected by almost every court nowadays (the irresistible impulse defense used in Anatomy of a Murder). Strictly speaking, it is not a defense but a mitigating factor at sentencing as to where and when sentenced.

Scotus made it tricky for defendants to claim such because they ok'ed permanent incarceration for those claiming such because they will, by the own admission, permanently on the prowl (thus recidivism and ongoing threat to others) which justifies some sort of custody of the state. See Comstock v. US and Kansas v. Hendricks.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 02:17 PM (ctrM5)

241 Snowing here in se Pa, thought it was just flurries but slowly coating everything

Posted by: Skip at January 16, 2025 02:18 PM (fwDg9)

242
Here's a riddle:

How is an unwanted guest not showing up to your party a "snub?"

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 16, 2025 02:18 PM (oKFJt)

243 And it's a dessert topping!

Posted by: Just the punchline at January 16, 2025 02:18 PM (DobEs)

244 208 I had no idea Pence was the pussy he turned out to be.
Posted by: DanMan

The Carter funeral finally confirmed who has the balls in that family.

Posted by: Auspex at January 16, 2025 02:18 PM (j4U/Z)

245
RIP David Lynch of Twin Peaks and Blue Velvet fame has died at 78.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 16, 2025 01:51 PM

yet another grim milestone for the biden-harris administration

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 16, 2025 02:18 PM (w9Ycv)

246 13 You know what will be an obscure Trivial Pursuit question in a decade - what was CNN?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 16, 2025 01:29 PM (lTGtQ)
- - - - - - -
"What is Certainly Not News?"

Posted by: Another Anon at January 16, 2025 02:18 PM (QNMaY)

247 Pence turned into a crap show but I have to say he had Trump’s back at least publicly up to Jan 6. And I don’t think him unprecedentedly stopping the electoral vote should have been expected of him. There is still no one smoking gun that the election was stolen though the circumstantial and objective evidence gathered over years does support it imo.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 16, 2025 02:18 PM (D6PGr)

248 227 Stephen L. Miller retweeted
David Lynch
@DAVID_LYNCH
10 Feb 2009
Thought of the Day: We are like the spider. We weave our life & move along it. We are like the dreamer who dreams & then lives in the dream.
Posted by: m at January 16, 2025 02:14 PM (VnUSN)
_______________

LMAO, when you quote David "the lunatic" Lynch, it's only because you ran out of reading material off the restroom stall wall.

Posted by: Orson at January 16, 2025 02:18 PM (dIske)

249 Peas are also legumes iirc.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 16, 2025 02:18 PM (NUdiI)

250 Meh.
I'm the only one in my family that does not like Chix fil A.
Ick.
Posted by: Diogenes

Some locations have really good breakfast bowls. But I don't eat there anymore after that "shine a black person's shoes" stunt the CEO pulled.

Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 02:19 PM (77rzZ)

251 You know what will be an obscure Trivial Pursuit question in a decade - what was CNN?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 16, 2025 01:29 PM (lTGtQ)
- - - - - - -
"What is Certainly Not News?"
Posted by: Another Anon at January 16, 2025 02:18 PM (QNMaY)
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Clown Nose Network.

Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 02:19 PM (krQz2)

252 >>> They are peaing in the waffle fries of the people that live there.

They're pea-ing the dogs
(Cluck cluck cluck cluck)
They're pea-ing the cats
(Moo moo moo moo)
Their pea-ing the waffles
Of the people that live there

Posted by: The Kitness with a new song idea! at January 16, 2025 02:19 PM (gWBY1)

253 Damn, now I want waffle fries.
Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 02:15 PM (77rzZ)

Tried those waffle fries once. Never again. No potato in 'em, at all. Best fries are steak fries, or wedges.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 16, 2025 02:19 PM (8zz6B)

254 I'm sad to hear David Lynch is dead.

I've enjoyed a lot of his work but his 1984 Dune is my personal favorite.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 16, 2025 02:19 PM (xcxpd)

255 Someone's packing a fanny?

Posted by: Pete Bootygig at January 16, 2025 02:19 PM (DobEs)

256 Nancy being Nancy.

https://tinyurl.com/3trydt9h

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 16, 2025 02:20 PM (a1415)

257 RIP David Lynch of Twin Peaks and Blue Velvet fame has died at 78.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 16, 2025 01:51 PM
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The owls aren't real.

Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 02:20 PM (krQz2)

258 237 I'm the only one in my family that does not like Chix fil A.
Ick.
Posted by: Diogenes

Never understood waiting in line a half hour for a limp chicken sandwich, either.

Posted by: Auspex at January 16, 2025 02:20 PM (j4U/Z)

259 254 I'm sad to hear David Lynch is dead.
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Dude had an epic head of hair.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 16, 2025 02:20 PM (jFCkp)

260 247 Pence turned into a crap show but I have to say he had Trump’s back at least publicly up to Jan 6. And I don’t think him unprecedentedly stopping the electoral vote should have been expected of him. There is still no one smoking gun that the election was stolen though the circumstantial and objective evidence gathered over years does support it imo.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth

No he did not have 'Trump's back'. In fact, most of the leaks, and unrest in Trump's first term came from staffers around Pence with them consistently being outed as disruptors. Even going back to the transition and Pence's running of the Covid Task Force. Pence and those around him were pieces of shit that deserve permanent political wilderness treatment.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 02:20 PM (ctrM5)

261 Nancy being Nancy.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 16, 2025 02:20 PM (a1415)
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Fell down the stairs again?

Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 02:20 PM (krQz2)

262
I mean, it's like that wacky old broad "e" jean carroll going on twitter to "announce" she's not attending President's Trump's Inauguration and the Fake News "announcing" that "e" jean carroll is "snubbing" Trump, right?

Whothefuck wants these people there, anyway??

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 16, 2025 02:20 PM (oKFJt)

263 I've enjoyed a lot of his work but his 1984 Dune is my personal favorite.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 16, 2025 02:19 PM (xcxpd)

Mine too...

Posted by: It's me donna at January 16, 2025 02:20 PM (VE6XX)

264 Posted by: Diogenes at January 16, 2025 02:17 PM (W/lyH)

I'm so sorry for you. Sometimes therapy helps.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 16, 2025 02:21 PM (ExV1e)

265 Meh.
I'm the only one in my family that does not like Chix fil A.
Ick.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 16, 2025 02:17 PM (W/lyH)

I don’t like them either.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 16, 2025 02:21 PM (D6PGr)

266 Holy shit. TCM is showing Where The Boys Meet The Girls, and some chick is singing "Treat Me Rough".

"Ladies, if you want to catch a man, sometimes you have to be manhandled"

Yikes. That isn't aging well.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at January 16, 2025 02:21 PM (ufFY8)

267 Didn't Lynch also direct The Elephant Man?

Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 02:21 PM (77rzZ)

268 A couple of days ago I read that Lynch had been successfully evacuated from his home in LA due to the fires, and then he dies right afterwards.

It's sad.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 02:21 PM (GBKbO)

269
Did RFK ruin the Waffle fries?

Posted by: Frank Barone at January 16, 2025 02:21 PM (+oR7L)

270 267 Didn't Lynch also direct The Elephant Man?
Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 02:21 PM (77rzZ)

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He did. Mel Brooks produced it, as well.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 02:21 PM (GBKbO)

271 Tried those waffle fries once. Never again. No potato in 'em, at all. Best fries are steak fries, or wedges.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Kroger's generic Steak Fries are seasoned just right even if you just bake them in the oven.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 02:21 PM (ctrM5)

272 267 Didn't Lynch also direct The Elephant Man?
Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 02:21 PM (77rzZ)

yup

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 16, 2025 02:22 PM (xcxpd)

273 Bad times for lefty media. MSNBC’s prez just resigned; who would want that job with the ratings headed down the toilet? And saw yesterday that Bezos is sweating it over at the WaPo because that outlet, online, has gone from about 21 million views per day to 3 million views per day in the last 4 years.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 16, 2025 02:22 PM (ehKfy)

274 >RIP David Lynch of Twin Peaks and Blue Velvet fame has died at 78.

That's too bad. Twin Peaks was a freaky show. I liked it a lot. He did the Elephant Man also.

Posted by: Scarymary at January 16, 2025 02:22 PM (whIlM)

275 266 Holy shit. TCM is showing Where The Boys Meet The Girls, and some chick is singing "Treat Me Rough".

"Ladies, if you want to catch a man, sometimes you have to be manhandled"

Yikes. That isn't aging well.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at January 16, 2025 02:21 PM (ufFY

Or....is it?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 16, 2025 02:22 PM (xcxpd)

276 Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 02:20 PM (ctrM5)

I said publicly. He always defended Trump. But go ahead get it out of your system.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 16, 2025 02:22 PM (D6PGr)

277
Cake girl's Ryan > Weasley snake Paul Ryan
Posted by: LizLem at January 16, 2025 01:59 PM (gWBY1)
*******
Thinking of Trump reading the poem, The Snake.
Posted by: redridinghood at January 16, 2025 02:04 PM (NpAcC)

evyone stomp on Paul Ryan snek

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 16, 2025 02:22 PM (y9nCu)

278
What's next? Is that fag cuck pence going to "announce" he's "snubbing" the Inauguration?

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 16, 2025 02:22 PM (oKFJt)

279 Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop

Why are you watching TCM instead of watching and reporting on the soap floozies? Get back to your regular job!

Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 02:23 PM (77rzZ)

280 Aaaaaannnd it's a movie thread.

Posted by: Like San Juans to Capistrano at January 16, 2025 02:23 PM (DobEs)

281 RIP David Lynch.

He made some weird shit.

The Straight Story, Dune, and Twin Peaks were my favorites.

Eraserhead is a headache inducer.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 16, 2025 02:23 PM (ufFY8)

282 David Lynch's recounting of meeting George Lucas is a hoot.

One thing that guy was masterful at was atmosphere.

His movies had an atmosphere that you could swim in.

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2025 02:24 PM (fV+MH)

283 I'm just so delighted that Joe is coming to town on Sunday.

https://tinyurl.com/2rcsjzsj

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 16, 2025 02:24 PM (a1415)

284 A bunch of poseurs plan to miss the inauguration?

I wonder if the idiots realize the only way I'm aware they might have been at the inauguration is through their announcing they're not going?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 16, 2025 02:24 PM (tT6L1)

285 GA is gonna end up with another Speaker of the House after today...with his personal attorney probably ending up facing criminal charges.

Your Uniparty - brought to you by Georgia Rs...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 16, 2025 02:24 PM (exHjb)

286
Imagine throwing a party and your LITERAL worst enemies announce they won't be coming.

You know, the people who tried to imprison & KILL you. Yeah, they aren't coming to your party.

How Does That Make You Feel?

Eh, Loser? How does it make you feel? Shitty, I'll bet.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 16, 2025 02:25 PM (oKFJt)

287 I've enjoyed a lot of his work but his 1984 Dune is my personal favorite.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 16, 2025 02:19 PM (xcxpd
_______________________________

I watched that rather recently. I had seen it a long time ago and never appreciated just how good (and distinguished) the cast was....well, all except for Sting. Max Von Sydow, Linda Hunt, Richard Jordan, Patrick Stewart, Dean Stockwell, Jurgen Prochnow....and many more big names.

Posted by: Orson at January 16, 2025 02:25 PM (dIske)

288 I am freezing. My toes are cold. I am shivering on the couch eating veggie soup. Next week is snow and ice (for the record, I do not think we will actually get snow. But if we do, it will be hysterical here). I was only kidding when I said I wanted weather where I could wear boots!

Posted by: Piper at January 16, 2025 02:25 PM (pRpzT)

289 I wonder what the etymology of "Axelrod" is. Wiki doesn't say. Does anyone know?
Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 01:38 PM (77rzZ)
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Back in the day, didn't one of the motor oil brands have a basset hound mascot named "Axelrod?"

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at January 16, 2025 02:25 PM (6K6Eu)

290 Also from CNN; 55% of Americans approve of Donald Trump’s transition. Only 40% disapprove.

He won 49.9% of the vote. Really more like 51% before fraud. But I digress.

Which means he’s gained popularity since the election. Le Resistance is weak and gu. Much like CNN.

It has to burn CNN to print this story. 😂😂

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 16, 2025 02:26 PM (AMcpv)

291 What's next? Is that fag cuck pence going to "announce" he's "snubbing" the Inauguration?

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 16, 2025 02:22 PM (oKFJt)

Does it matter if he attends or not? He's now ancient history.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 16, 2025 02:26 PM (8zz6B)

292 Blue Velvet had some quotable lines . Mostly from Dennis Hopper.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 16, 2025 02:26 PM (D6PGr)

293 Get back to your regular job!
Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 02:23 PM (77rzZ)

Just caught the last few minutes of Not Pretty Lee and Mint Munching Poppy bitching at each other. Lee has Leggy Luna's blood for a paternity test, since Poppy was Pincushion Poppy back in the day.

Will catch up when the wife watches the replays, LOL.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at January 16, 2025 02:26 PM (ufFY8)

294 I wonder how much lube Tapper will be allowed prior to having this judgment rammed up his squeakhole?

Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 16, 2025 02:26 PM (wtvvX)

295 I've enjoyed a lot of his work but his 1984 Dune is my personal favorite.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 16, 2025 02:19 PM (xcxpd
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Ugg. Lynch Dune was an abortion.

Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 02:26 PM (krQz2)

296 288 I am freezing. My toes are cold. I am shivering on the couch eating veggie soup. Next week is snow and ice (for the record, I do not think we will actually get snow. But if we do, it will be hysterical here). I was only kidding when I said I wanted weather where I could wear boots!
Posted by: Piper at January 16, 2025 02:25 PM (pRpzT)

I want one day of cold to kill bugs...then 364 days of 60 degrees+...

Make sure you tailor the ask - next week is gonna be horrific here...I'm hoping Trump does not pull a William Henry Harrison, and gets hi butt inside ASAP after the inauguration - it should be a 5 minute affair outside...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 16, 2025 02:27 PM (exHjb)

297 hi = his

Posted by: Nova Local at January 16, 2025 02:27 PM (exHjb)

298 If you were Mr. Young, would you settle for a $100M or spin the wheel with a jury?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 16, 2025 02:27 PM (aD39U)

299 "Ugg. Lynch Dune was an abortion.
Posted by: Axeman"

Yeah it really was.

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2025 02:27 PM (fV+MH)

300 I'd take the money.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 16, 2025 02:28 PM (aD39U)

301 A bunch of poseurs plan to miss the inauguration?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 16, 2025 02:24 PM (tT6L1)
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I REFUSE to attend Trump's inauguration.

Posted by: Satan at January 16, 2025 02:28 PM (krQz2)

302 287 I've enjoyed a lot of his work but his 1984 Dune is my personal favorite.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 16, 2025 02:19 PM (xcxpd
_______________________________

I watched that rather recently. I had seen it a long time ago and never appreciated just how good (and distinguished) the cast was....well, all except for Sting. Max Von Sydow, Linda Hunt, Richard Jordan, Patrick Stewart, Dean Stockwell, Jurgen Prochnow....and many more big names.
Posted by: Orson at January 16, 2025 02:25 PM (dIske)

Especially in comparison to the other attempts to adapt Dune. So many good actors in 1984 version. And Sting was fine for what he was there for. The script didn't have room for good development of Feyd.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 16, 2025 02:28 PM (xcxpd)

303 Toto did the Dune soundtrack. I listened to that last week and enjoyed it.

Posted by: Scarymary at January 16, 2025 02:28 PM (whIlM)

304 298 If you were Mr. Young, would you settle for a $100M or spin the wheel with a jury?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 16, 2025 02:27 PM (aD39U)

Always settle at that kinda number - they can't appeal their own settlement, and you might actually see some money...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 16, 2025 02:28 PM (exHjb)

305 Ugg. Lynch Dune was an abortion.
Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 02:26 PM

Get rid of the weirding module stuff and I would accept it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 16, 2025 02:29 PM (aD39U)

306 I REFUSE to attend Trump's inauguration.
Posted by: Satan at January 16, 2025 02:28 PM (krQz2)
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Kind of hard to avoid, isn't it? After all, you appear to have taken up residence in DC.....

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 16, 2025 02:29 PM (tT6L1)

307 I watched that rather recently. I had seen it a long time ago and never appreciated just how good (and distinguished) the cast was....well, all except for Sting.

Lady Jessica had it going on...

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at January 16, 2025 02:29 PM (ufFY8)

308 I'd take the money.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 16, 2025 02:28 PM (aD39U)
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Go on take the money and run.

Posted by: Steve Miller at January 16, 2025 02:29 PM (krQz2)

309 292 Blue Velvet had some quotable lines . Mostly from Dennis Hopper.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 16, 2025 02:26 PM (D6PGr)

And Isabella Rossellini. Yowza!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 16, 2025 02:29 PM (wtvvX)

310 I wonder how much lube Tapper will be allowed prior to having this judgment rammed up his squeakhole?
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 16, 2025 02:26 PM (wtvvX)

At a guess, Tapper is rich, CNN will have to pay any judgement, and it will - largely - not affect his future employment.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 16, 2025 02:29 PM (ExV1e)

311 Sting was great in Dune.

Posted by: Deplorable Minion at January 16, 2025 02:29 PM (QSrLX)

312 292 Blue Velvet had some quotable lines . Mostly from Dennis Hopper.
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My memory tells me they filmed it in Wilmington, NC. I ran into Judd Nelson at the downtown Wilmington Piggly Wiggly.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 16, 2025 02:29 PM (jFCkp)

313 I liked the Lynch Dune better than the most recent Dune.

The first part of the new Dune was pretty good but the 2nd part blew chunks.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 16, 2025 02:29 PM (D6PGr)

314
What I'm confused about is why President Trump isn't letting his supporters fill those seats. Fuck that guy "michelle" obama.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 16, 2025 02:30 PM (oKFJt)

315 These attornies might be drunk.

Posted by: Deplorable Minion at January 16, 2025 02:30 PM (QSrLX)

316 I'm not going to the inauguration either. I'm just not making a big deal of it.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 16, 2025 02:30 PM (2UnvF)

317 When I was in 9th grade, my parents saved up their sheckles to send me to a private school - where the cafeteria food was Chick-fil-a.

I had it every day for lunch for a whole school year.

It took ... a long time.... for me to like Chick-fil-a again.

The next year I was in public school again.

Posted by: Defenestratus at January 16, 2025 02:30 PM (xbTzQ)

318 10 Called it:

ABC7 Eyewitness News
@ABC7
Order prohibiting removal of fire debris issued by LA County health officer
Posted by: Don Black at January 16, 2025 01:28 PM (AOsQT)

Wait... whut?

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 16, 2025 02:31 PM (QAkQ3)

319 316 I'm not going to the inauguration either. I'm just not making a big deal of it.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 16, 2025 02:30 PM (2UnvF)

Unlike the last one I will be watching

Posted by: It's me donna at January 16, 2025 02:31 PM (VE6XX)

320 The technology of Dune is strange. Big knives reign supreme.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 16, 2025 02:31 PM (NUdiI)

321 I see DeSantis is going to appoint Ashley Moody to the FL Senate seat.

Since she's young and likely to be the Senator for quite some time that would mean DeSantis is going to focus on a presidential run in 2028 likely against Vance as his primary opponent.

What a change in the GOP when we've gone from Romney Vs McCain to DeSantis Vs Vance...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 16, 2025 02:31 PM (t0Rmr)

322 What I'm confused about is why President Trump isn't letting his supporters fill those seats. Fuck that guy "michelle" obama.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 16, 2025 02:30 PM (oKFJt)
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Invite the buffalo head shaman to fill that seat.

Maybe that would finally stroke out half of the View.

Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 02:31 PM (krQz2)

323 Its like a medical screenung
Do you belive Hunters laptop?
Is there a ped tape?
Is oral sex cheating?

one could go on...

Posted by: Deplorable Minion at January 16, 2025 02:31 PM (QSrLX)

324 Unlike the last one I will be watching
Posted by: It's me donna at January 16, 2025 02:31 PM (VE6XX)

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Oh absolutely!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 16, 2025 02:32 PM (2UnvF)

325 Thomas hates Sullivan, IIRC. He is correct in that regard. Sullivan was suspect the day it was rendered, and is now completely obsolete and unreasonable today.
Posted by: Elric The Blade

Sullivan is a case with weird facts during the segregation era. NYT was being held liable by Alabama courts for a massive amount because a coalition of civil rights leaders paid for a full page ad in the NYT. Sullivan was never named anywhere in the ad which had factual errors and you would have to know that Sullivan was the county commissioner who supervised law enforcement (not common knowledge) in some of the police misconduct instances listed in the advert.

The stupid Alabama court system wanted to punish the Yankee NYT which allowed the Warren court to issue an overbroad ruling creating the whole public person bullshit exception.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 02:32 PM (ctrM5)

326 The first part of the new Dune was pretty good but the 2nd part blew chunks.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 16, 2025 02:29 PM (D6PGr)
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Yep. The 2nd part seemed like the director was told to wrap it up and not worry if the movie followed the book at all.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 16, 2025 02:32 PM (tT6L1)

327 I think Timothée Chalamet is a good Paul Atreides.

Fight me!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 16, 2025 02:32 PM (aD39U)

328
Max Von Sydow, Linda Hunt, Richard Jordan, Patrick Stewart, Dean Stockwell, Jurgen Prochnow....and many more big names.

Patrick Stewart's Atreides Combat Pug...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 16, 2025 02:32 PM (y9nCu)

329 I meant pee tape, but the typo was better

Posted by: Deplorable Minion at January 16, 2025 02:32 PM (QSrLX)

330 I REFUSE to attend Trump's inauguration.

Posted by: Satan at January 16, 2025 02:28 PM (krQz2)

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Big Mike's bathhouse date.

Posted by: ShainS -- Commie-Caused Conflagrations Created Califzuela's Chernobyl at January 16, 2025 02:32 PM (kqHr3)

331 PMOF for the Shaman.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 16, 2025 02:32 PM (NUdiI)

332 What I'm confused about is why President Trump isn't letting his supporters fill those seats. Fuck that guy "michelle" obama.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 16, 2025 02:30 PM (oKFJt)

Because it leaves open spots and points out what petulant assholes the Dems are.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 16, 2025 02:33 PM (ExV1e)

333 Thought: I'm sure that Mullin was being diplomatic and not exposing that for some senators "night" started about 9 AM.

Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 02:33 PM (krQz2)

334 327 I think Timothée Chalamet is a good Paul Atreides.

Fight me!
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 16, 2025 02:32 PM (aD39U)

Chaney " sp ? " was terrible

Posted by: It's me donna at January 16, 2025 02:33 PM (VE6XX)

335 290 55% of Americans approve of Donald Trump’s transition
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 16, 2025 02:26 PM (AMcpv)

um

Posted by: m at January 16, 2025 02:33 PM (VnUSN)

336 Order prohibiting removal of fire debris issued by LA County health officer
Posted by: Don Black at January 16, 2025 01:28 PM (AOsQT)

Wait... whut?
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 16, 2025 02:31 PM (QAkQ3)

Let the delays in rebuilding begin!!
And start the bribery graft to get removal permits.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 16, 2025 02:33 PM (ufFY8)

337 Nood

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 16, 2025 02:33 PM (2UnvF)

338 I saw Entirely Different Asshole open for Butt Station at the Back Door Lounge in '84.

Posted by: Billy Sol Hurok at January 16, 2025 02:34 PM (G5+As)

339 I think Timothée Chalamet is a good Paul Atreides.

Fight me!
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 16, 2025 02:32 PM (aD39U)
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Bap!
Biff!
Pow!
Zam!

Posted by: TV Batman at January 16, 2025 02:34 PM (krQz2)

340 ERASERHEAD!!!

That film defined Cult Movie.

Posted by: pawn, RIP Vic at January 16, 2025 02:34 PM (QB+5g)

341 So was the spice a mineral or some biological product of sand worms like the highly touted water of life?

Posted by: Deplorable Minion at January 16, 2025 02:34 PM (QSrLX)

342 The technology of Dune is strange. Big knives reign supreme.
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 16, 2025 02:31 PM (NUdiI)

Big, slow, knives.
And atomics.
Can't forget atomics.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 16, 2025 02:34 PM (ufFY8)

343 Piper I'm with you, won't be happy until May. I have no use for cold and snow

Posted by: Skip at January 16, 2025 02:34 PM (fwDg9)

344 think Timothée Chalamet is a good Paul Atreides.

Fight me!
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 16, 2025 02:32 PM (aD39U)

They needed a mousy looking guy to go with the name.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 16, 2025 02:34 PM (D6PGr)

345 283 I'm just so delighted that Joe is coming to town on Sunday.

https://tinyurl.com/2rcsjzsj
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 16, 2025 02:24 PM (a1415)

I already stay away from downtown, but it looks like he'll be fucking up N. Charleston, too. Good day to stay in and play Minecraft or something.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at January 16, 2025 02:35 PM (DTX3h)

346 Now that I think about it, that makes it even weirder. All that hyperbole and emotion--that's the kind of garbage you do in front of a jury. If you're playing to a judge by doing that, that's just insane.
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Well, if you can make noise, some judges get confused and make mistakes. Rule in your favor, maybe you get away with it, maybe develop some leverage and settle. At least you have something to say in closing. OR, he gets really pissed and the judge rules against you and overreacted goes too far and you have an issue to appeal. Sounds like this judge, slowed down, read transcript and decided the best way to punish this whole was to let the other side bring in a new witness to establish the cross examination was phony bullshit. Thus exposing to the jurors, without a doubt, who the real liar is. Result billion dollar verdict.

Posted by: Not stradamus at January 16, 2025 02:36 PM (HXZiI)

347 Assuming the next 4 years run smoothly and things are good in 2028, Vance will be the nominee easily. If it’s a shitshow 4 years it’s probably moot who is the nominee since a Dem will win.

And then if Vance wins he’ll run agin in 2032. And if he wins then it’s almost certain a Dem will win in 2036. It’s highly unlikely a Republican wins 4 in a row.

So either DS has to wait until 2040 or he has to hope for a Dem win in 2028 for him to run in 2032.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 16, 2025 02:39 PM (AMcpv)

348 ABC7 Eyewitness News
@ABC7
Order prohibiting removal of fire debris issued by LA County health officer
Posted by: Don Black at January 16, 2025 01:28 PM (AOsQT)

Wait... whut?
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 16, 2025 02:31 PM (QAkQ3)

Part of the reason might be that many of those burned out homes are reduced to ashes. And those ashes may be the owner of that house. Many of the missing people may very well have been reduced to ashes in those homes. In a fire that hot, the human body will cease to exist. A friend of mine who helped fight a few of those types of fires back in the 70's told me that many victims of some of those fires were never found. Maybe, today, if there are some fragments left, DNA analysis might identify the victim, but ashes could be all that's left.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at January 16, 2025 02:39 PM (iODuv)

349 The technology of Dune is strange. Big knives reign supreme.
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 16, 2025 02:31 PM

Also in, how you say, meat markets.

Posted by: Paolo at January 16, 2025 02:40 PM (a3Q+t)

350 337 Nood
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 16, 2025 02:33 PM (2UnvF)

Posted by: m at January 16, 2025 02:40 PM (VnUSN)

351 Seen this sort of behavior before and then been shocked by the outcome. I predict the judge will decide in CNN's favor as he has now got this out of his system.

Posted by: Decaf at January 16, 2025 02:47 PM (unUNN)

352 I said publicly. He always defended Trump. But go ahead get it out of your system.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth
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You can like Pence all you want but he was and is a dishonorable man. To say otherwise is simply a lie.

Might want to check out his family's business history as well.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 02:50 PM (ctrM5)

353 "I think an apology from you is clearly in order to Mr. Young for the number of times in front of this court, and streamed around the world, that you called Mr. Young a liar,"

I think CNN is toast, if this is the kind of cockamamie defense they have. If I were CNN, writing checks to this clown lawyer, I'd dump him and settle. Today.

Hell, you could probably settle with the guy for what that stupid lawyer is charging.

Oh, and fire the reporter that got you into this mess.

Posted by: El Mariachi at January 16, 2025 03:11 PM (nLFEI)

354 The guy who thought that Republicans being mad about groomers was the same thing as Nazis being mad about Jews.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 01:46 PM (GBKbO)

Might as well put a call to the tipoff line to the police yourself by defending child sex groomers all out like that.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 16, 2025 03:30 PM (n7h9X)

355 "I think an apology from you is clearly in order to Mr. Young for the number of times in front of this court, and streamed around the world, that you called Mr. Young a liar,"

I think CNN is toast, if this is the kind of cockamamie defense they have. If I were CNN, writing checks to this clown lawyer, I'd dump him and settle. Today.

Hell, you could probably settle with the guy for what that stupid lawyer is charging.

Oh, and fire the reporter that got you into this mess.
Posted by: El Mariachi at January 16, 2025 03:11 PM (nLFEI)

Sounds like they descended like an angel from heaven on the court in Florida from the heaven that is NYC or DC, to smite the sinners there.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 16, 2025 03:31 PM (n7h9X)

356 @ABC7
Order prohibiting removal of fire debris issued by LA County health officer
Posted by: Don Black at January 16, 2025 01:28 PM (AOsQT)

Wait... whut?
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 16, 2025 02:31 PM (QAkQ3)

Part of the reason might be that many of those burned out homes are reduced to ashes. And those ashes may be the owner of that house. Many of the missing people may very well have been reduced to ashes in those homes. In a fire that hot, the human body will cease to exist. A friend of mine who helped fight a few of those types of fires back in the 70's told me that many victims of some of those fires were never found. Maybe, today, if there are some fragments left, DNA analysis might identify the victim, but ashes could be all that's left.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at January 16, 2025 02:39 PM (iODuv)

That's what happened to the 2018 fires, they could not even get permission to clear the sites for years.

And no, its not for forensic evidence, don't think there were any lives lost in that one.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 16, 2025 03:33 PM (n7h9X)

357 CNN has been trashing Conservatives lied about Trump and now its time for them to Pay the Piper

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at January 16, 2025 04:20 PM (wGqjj)

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