Some Republicans Balk at Writing California a Blank Check for Fire Relief, Seeking to Condition That Relief on Policy Changes

One big change they're looking at:

Many Californians don't have home insurance. They don't have it because the communist government of California banned insurance companies from raising rates commensurate with the major risk of fire (caused by the California government itself), so insurers simply stopped doing business in the state.

California's government said that the state would insure these uninsured homes -- but they don't have anywhere near the money to cover the massive losses they've caused.

So they want the rest of us to pay for their folly. As usual.

California will now be demanding that the citizens of the non-communist states pay for the costs of their communism.

They need to be told that communists can pay for themselves with all their magical communist money.

As wildfires rage in California, Republicans in Washington have begun discussing whether to condition federal aid on changes to policies they blame for the blazes.
"It's part of the discussion right now," Rep. Scott Fitzgerald, R-Wis., told Fox News Digital. "People are unwilling to just stroke a check for something that, quite honestly, they still have a lot of questions. And obviously, the fires are still burning, so we don't even know what the total is going to be at the end of the day."
The Los Angeles area has been grappling with multiple deadly wildfires in recent days, with nearly 100,000 Californians under evacuation orders.
Officials are far from knowing what the final damage estimates will be, as well as how much additional funding will need to be approved by Congress.
But a broad cross-section of Republicans are already blaming the Democratic stronghold state's policies and management for exacerbating the issue.
"I think there's going to be a lot of questions raised about it, but we also want to work cooperatively with, you know, everybody on both sides of the aisle," House Appropriations Chairman Tom Cole, R-Okla., said when asked about conditioning aid. "But I think that's just the reality. There's gonna be some questions we'll be asking."
Rep. Mike Flood, R-Neb., chairman of the House Financial Services Committee's subcommittee on housing and insurance, said it was too early to be discussing possible specific conditions but criticized California's home insurance policies.
"I think there's real issues... For far too long, California state laws have been pushing out insurers from that state, making it even harder to get home insurance," Flood told Fox News Digital.
"I think California's got to do a couple of things. They have to demonstrate that they are going to create an environment where home insurance, housing insurance, is reflected in the risk, that they understand the risk, and they are pricing accordingly. And then, as it relates to forestry management, I think there's a lot of members of Congress who will wanna say, 'How did this happen? What kind of policies led to this?'"
Meanwhile, members of the conservative House Freedom Caucus, who typically are adamant about steep cuts to offset any supplemental government spending, are no different on California's fires.
"It's got to be more than paid for. They've got to own it," Rep. Ralph Norman, R-S.C., told reporters. "California has never been exactly the most conservative state in terms of spending. We've got to get a pound of flesh on any dollar spent on California, in my opinion."

Quick, let's reward Newsom and Bass for their incompetence.

The unnamed fire department veteran told Schellenberger's Public Substack, "We don't have enough engines, and 100 were in the shop" He also said that "Lack of leadership is the problem."

But as fires continue to rage out of control, it's increasingly clear that the response to the fires by California's leaders was inadequate. The LA Department of Water and Power had drained the city's second-largest reservoir of water, which was right near the Palisades fire, and failed to notify the County or City Fire Department. The National Weather Service (NWS) warned of "extreme fire risk" on January 2, the NWS - Los Angeles held a briefing on January 3, and yet Mayor Bass flew to Ghana anyway. Newsom did not call out the National Guard until Friday and did not mobilize national and international help until the last few days.

One thing we won't have to spend money on is an investigation into the causes of this regularly-scheduled apocalyptic fire -- because the media already has all the answers.

Never let a crisis go to waste!

The leftist media used the California wildfires to amplify their climate change agenda.

🎥 by @Banned_Bill pic.twitter.com/XfoCcQ0GIX
— MRC NewsBusters (@newsbusters) January 14, 2025

CBS "News" knows a secondary cause of the devastation -- and no, it's not "Democrat mismanagement."

It's "suburban sprawl." Once again, the real culprit is people who don't want to live in Democrat cities with all of their crime, disease, and misery.

Get into your Government-Provided Hab Units, sub-peons!

How suburban sprawl and climate change are making wildfires more destructive

Meanwhile, Biden is so pleased with himself that he's sending out checks in the amount of $770 to each California wildfire victim.

BIDEN: "People impacted by these fires are gonna receive one-time payment of $770. One-time payment." pic.twitter.com/9E7Toj5BEo
— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) January 14, 2025

As PJ Media points out -- don't expect the residents of a blue state to have to beg and scrape to get that payment, as the victims of the hurricane in North Carolina and Georgia had to.

Kamala to wildfire victims: "It's critically important that, to the extent you can find anything that gives you an ability to be patient in this extremely dangerous and unprecedented crisis, that you do." pic.twitter.com/zjV2KVxr8u
— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) January 14, 2025

Unprecedented? It happens every other year, like clockwork.

Julia Roberts, who campaigned for Kamala and who supported, I'd bet every dime I have, the "reform" to criminal law decriminalizing crime, is now angry that the homes of her rich Hollywood pals are being looted.

Julia Roberts delivered a spicy comment to criminals who are preying on the vulnerable during the LA fires.
On Monday the Pretty Woman star took to Instagram with a rare remark.
'F.U. looters,' wrote the mother of three who is married to movie cinematographer Danny Moder.
Indeed, looters are still targeting empty mansions in the $10M range that have been left unsupervised as families evacuate. In many areas the fire alarms are off because the power is out. And police are not accessing the areas easily due to fire hazards.
This comes as California governor Gavin Newsom accused the tech billionaire Elon Musk of 'encouraging looting.'
Musk said that Gavin was decriminalizing looting but that is not true.
'Stop encouraging looting by lying and telling people it's decriminalized. It's not,' Newsom wrote. 'It's illegal -- as it always has been.'

So Musk is encouraging looting? Seems that your decriminalizing crime and emboldening criminals and emptying the prisons encouraged the looting.

About 30 people have been arrested for suspected looting.
Most of Julia's post was about the devastation over the Palisades fires. 'There is so much healing and help needed. We will get through this,' wrote the Oscar-winning star.

F.U. has-been.

The Daily Mail wants you to know that the looters have "all share one common trait."

The one thing they have in common is that they all traveled to do their looting.

Why, what did you think I meant?

Racists!

Dozens of those accused of looting homes and stores in the ritzy Pacific Palisades enclave of LA during the deadly fires have been pictured in police mugshots.
Cops charged more than 40 detainees with various offenses including burglary and drug possession since the fires broke out on January 7.
Remarkably, none of those arrested were actually living in the evacuation zone and seemingly travelled with the intention of taking advantage of the devastation.

Posted by: Ace at 06:35 PM

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1 First!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 14, 2025 06:35 PM (ZOv7s)

2 Somehow the dems and their friends and allies always make out on these deals. It's like the $Billions for homelessness in Kali ending up in the pockets of those most closely aligned to...Dem politicians in power. Funny dat.

Posted by: RNC Senatorial Committee at January 14, 2025 06:36 PM (ynpvh)

3 I NOODED.

Posted by: RNC Senatorial Committee at January 14, 2025 06:37 PM (ynpvh)

4 Will anyone man-up and tell California to deal with it?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 14, 2025 06:37 PM (Q4IgG)

5 The Daily Mail wants you to know that the looters have "all share one common trait."

Democrats?

Posted by: RNC Senatorial Committee at January 14, 2025 06:38 PM (ynpvh)

6 Wow, seems some republicans have grown a pair of balls since Trump got elected. Good to see.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 14, 2025 06:38 PM (Rcnd3)

7 4 Will anyone man-up and tell California to deal with it?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 14, 2025 06:37 PM (Q4IgG)

Kalifornia is not transgendered; it cut off it's dick and now says it's a pussy.

Posted by: RNC Senatorial Committee at January 14, 2025 06:38 PM (ynpvh)

8 Now, not Not. damn finger.s

Posted by: RNC Senatorial Committee at January 14, 2025 06:38 PM (ynpvh)

9 Damn sock. Off wit ya!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 14, 2025 06:39 PM (ynpvh)

10 > The Daily Mail wants you to know that the looters have "all share one common trait."
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Lemme guess... all "white males."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 14, 2025 06:40 PM (Q4IgG)

11 It's an outrage that CA will be given anything other than standard FEMA assistance. There are people being thrown out of motels and into the cold in NC. I don't see why CA rates higher.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 14, 2025 06:40 PM (zUe/H)

12 Putting conditions on aid??? The Deuce you say!

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 14, 2025 06:40 PM (wyMQY)

13 CA, your rules your repercussions.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 14, 2025 06:41 PM (0wWvl)

14 Wow, seems some republicans have grown a pair of balls since Trump got elected. Good to see.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 14, 2025 06:38 PM (Rcnd3)
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Trump's willingness to veto no-strings-attached aid is a powerful incentive to do something else.

Oh, and when he is sworn in, he can federalize all the National Guard troops out there and direct them to detain illegals when they are encountered.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 14, 2025 06:41 PM (ZOv7s)

15 Willowed:

38 21 I was Willard!

*shakes fist at Moronica here assembled*

nah, jk. My fault…bad time management on my part.
Posted by: kallisto
_____

I had a few willowed posts today. I'm ok with this though since I realized long ago no one reads my posts anyway.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 14, 2025 05:48 PM (xvWX0)

I'm always pleasantly surprised that someone responds to or references my paranoid, idiotic rantings and banal attempts at humor.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 14, 2025 06:41 PM (QGaXH)

16 "California will now be demanding that the citizens of the non-communist states pay for the costs of their communism.

They need to be told that communists can pay for themselves with all their magical communist money."

Good Summary.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 14, 2025 06:41 PM (Cus5s)

17 Maybe if we had not sent all that money to Ukraine there would be more to spend here.

Naw. They just print it as needed anyway.

Posted by: fd at January 14, 2025 06:41 PM (vFG9F)

18 "The unnamed fire department veteran told Schellenberger's Public Substack, "We don't have enough engines, and 100 were in the shop" He also said that "Lack of leadership is the problem.""

Cargo cult governance. Or just plain communism.

Same result essentially.

Posted by: eleven at January 14, 2025 06:42 PM (fV+MH)

19 fd, delivery made and a acknowledged

Posted by: Ben Had at January 14, 2025 06:42 PM (0wWvl)

20 Kamala did the "endeavor to persevere."

She actually went there.

Posted by: eleven at January 14, 2025 06:44 PM (fV+MH)

21 CA should be forced into a consent degree to have every agency, dept, and contractor to undergo a forensic audit of the past 10 years. The decree should include required plea deals for any malfeasance discovered.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 14, 2025 06:44 PM (IG4Id)

22 Cargo cult governance. Or just plain communism.

Same result essentially.
Posted by: eleven at January 14, 2025 06:42 PM (fV+MH)
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I don't think incompetence is ideological, but certain ideologies lean into it.

Mostly California is stupid because they've been able to coast on legacy wealth for so long.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 14, 2025 06:44 PM (ZOv7s)

23 They call free-market economies "free market" because they are (generally) free of government interference. The State of California is going to be facing demands for a LOT of assistance, much of which *could* have been provided by insurance companies had the State of California only kept their marxist hands out of the insurance business.

So, "No", the Federal government shouldn't bail out the State of California wholesale. Were the Feds to *choose* to participate in some well-thought-out relief efforts, it should be upon our terms, not the State of California.

Posted by: Crusader at January 14, 2025 06:44 PM (TN0g+)

24 Man. Those looters!

Going house to house to steal educational supplies, books and math textbooks. Just trying to better themselves.

And hitting the comic book stores. No wonder why every last freaking superhero movie features minorities. Voracious readers when it's looted.

Posted by: Stateless at January 14, 2025 06:44 PM (jvJvP)

25 Looting Tourism !

Posted by: runner at January 14, 2025 06:44 PM (g47mK)

26 &fd, delivery made and a acknowledged
Posted by: Ben Had at January 14, 2025 06:42 PM (0wWvl)"

Ok! Btw, your hash looks like it hurts.

Posted by: fd at January 14, 2025 06:45 PM (vFG9F)

27 Start having them pay into a FEMA-like entity - and it only pays out if 80% or more of the property is burnt to the ground. No mere smoke damage or damaged guesthouse.

Lord knows many members of my family - not me, because I'm about three houses beyond the FEMA-designated flood plain - have had to pay into the fund without ever taking out. Let those living in the fiery zones feel it in their pockets.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at January 14, 2025 06:45 PM (fxCK2)

28 I pay ~~enough~~ too much in home insurance already. I can't afford to pay for California, too. Also, fuck that. You broke it, you bought it.

Posted by: huerfano at January 14, 2025 06:45 PM (DKIGo)

29 22 Cargo cult governance. Or just plain communism.

Same result essentially.
Posted by: eleven at January 14, 2025 06:42 PM (fV+MH)
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I don't think incompetence is ideological, but certain ideologies lean into it.

Mostly California is stupid because they've been able to coast on legacy wealth for so long.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 14, 2025 06:44 PM (ZOv7s)

Cargo Cult Communism: If you destroy it, Utopia will come...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 14, 2025 06:45 PM (ynpvh)

30
The one thing they have in common is that they all traveled to do their looting.

Are they the scooter looters?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 14, 2025 06:45 PM (63Dwl)

31 I think it should be first-come first-served for this kind of thing.

You don't get disaster relief money until the disasters that preceded your are all relieved of their disaster.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at January 14, 2025 06:45 PM (hB7mE)

32 Yeah.... man made climate change... Heat Island effect can increase temps 1-7 degrees F during the day, and 2-5 degrees at night.

So, the very fact that LA is so damn big? increases the temp from all those people who just live there and produce... nothing...

Santa Ana winds happen when the LA temp is HIGHER than the temp around Las Vegas... something that naturally happens BUT an extra few degrees? makes worse.

So, Yes... this was made worse by man made climate change, but has nothing to do with CO2... and yes does have something to do with Urban sprawl... which is caused by too many people... which is caused by... oh... shit... unlimited illegal immigration.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 14, 2025 06:45 PM (QAkQ3)

33 Damn straight trust but verify baby!

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 14, 2025 06:46 PM (jQ+5q)

34 Disgusting news from Texas. GOP turncoats allied with Democrats to deny a conservative speaker.

This is the real political battle now; the GOP-e sellouts are openly siding with the left to hang onto power.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 14, 2025 06:46 PM (wyMQY)

35 So, "No", the Federal government shouldn't bail out the State of California wholesale. Were the Feds to *choose* to participate in some well-thought-out relief efforts, it should be upon our terms, not the State of California.
Posted by: Crusader at January 14, 2025 06:44 PM (TN0g+)
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Lots of consent agreements and MOUs, starting with full law enforcement participation in rounding up illegals and barring any state funds from being used for lawfare.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 14, 2025 06:46 PM (ZOv7s)

36 OK, have it your way. The problem is Climate Change. What do you propose to do to mitigate the effects? Not just wish it away, but actually deal with it? Go to Ghana?

Posted by: Eeyore at January 14, 2025 06:46 PM (1bNHn)

37 If Cali is bankrupted by this, they go back to Territory status, right? All Senators, Senatrixes, and Representatives sent home immediately?

And they can finally stop counting votes from the last election.

Posted by: mikeski at January 14, 2025 06:46 PM (DgGvY)

38 All of those looters need to start a new life in Greenland.

Posted by: fd at January 14, 2025 06:46 PM (vFG9F)

39 fd, it's just a flesh wound.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 14, 2025 06:46 PM (0wWvl)

40 Since we will undoubtedly end up sending $$ to CA, we should at least call it a loan. With a serious interest rate.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 14, 2025 06:47 PM (1bNHn)

41 I'm sick of this shit. Build a wall around CA and give them nothing. These people ain't gonna change, a detriment to our country

Posted by: FLanole at January 14, 2025 06:47 PM (ZnrCl)

42 By "FEMA-like" entity, I mean one that draws maps that extend to places a couple miles outside of the danger zone, in all directions, and pays out so poorly that it would be better to put the payments into a long-term CD or annuity.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at January 14, 2025 06:47 PM (fxCK2)

43 26 &fd, delivery made and a acknowledged
Posted by: Ben Had at January 14, 2025 06:42 PM (0wWvl)"

Ok! Btw, your hash looks like it hurts.

Posted by: fd at January 14, 2025 06:45 PM (vFG9F)

Some 'ette the onther night had a hash of DGILF...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 14, 2025 06:47 PM (ynpvh)

44 The climate changes everyday.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 14, 2025 06:47 PM (0wWvl)

45 I’m glad Miles Teller is getting that $770 . That’s going to help pay for dinner at Cecconi’s .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 14, 2025 06:48 PM (D6PGr)

46 I’m sorry, but where is the relief package for NC and TN?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 14, 2025 06:48 PM (u73oe)

47 28 I pay enough too much in home insurance already. I can't afford to pay for California, too. Also, fuck that. You broke it, you bought it.
Posted by: huerfano at January 14, 2025 06:45 PM (DKIGo)

Strange... I live in California, and my house insurance is not that bad... of course, I don't live in any natural disaster zone... no fires, no big fault lines, no Hurricanes, no tropical storms...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 14, 2025 06:48 PM (QAkQ3)

48 "Some Republicans Balk at Writing California a Blank Check for Fire Relief, Seeking to Condition That Relief on Policy Changes"

Those elected need to think outside the box.
Any relief with other people's money needs to be tied to ending *all* Sanctuary endeavors.
In addition to ending sending billions of fresh water to the sea without first being used by California's population.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 14, 2025 06:48 PM (/bYFX)

49 Ace called us Racists again.

Posted by: wth at January 14, 2025 06:48 PM (v0R5T)

50 Why oh why won't we believe in climate change?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 14, 2025 06:48 PM (63Dwl)

51
It's a write off, Jerry.
They just write it off.

Posted by: Kramer at January 14, 2025 06:48 PM (dg+HA)

52 The federal government is broke anyways so who cares. You get a check and you get a check and you get a check. Anyone else want a check? You, you over there...you get a check and you get a check and you get a check...Hey! You! You want a check? Yes you! Here's a check...

Posted by: Boomer Budget Busters at January 14, 2025 06:48 PM (R/m4+)

53 27 Start having them pay into a FEMA-like entity - and it only pays out if 80% or more of the property is burnt to the ground. No mere smoke damage or damaged guesthouse.

Lord knows many members of my family - not me, because I'm about three houses beyond the FEMA-designated flood plain - have had to pay into the fund without ever taking out. Let those living in the fiery zones feel it in their pockets.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at January 14, 2025 06:45 PM (fxCK2)

I assume excluding the ground itself...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 14, 2025 06:48 PM (ynpvh)

54 Honest question here. Like most of us here I've been following the fires closely.
Tens of thousands of people evacuated. 10,000 homes lost to flames.

Okay, I see that but, where did they all go? I haven't seen FEMA trailers brought in. No tent cities. I know the wealthiest of them have probably left for their third or fourth home, possibly on a different continent. Where is everyone else?

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, McFailure wing of the Uniparty at January 14, 2025 06:48 PM (vjZp0)

55 Ahvocahdoes from Mehicooo!

Posted by: wth at January 14, 2025 06:49 PM (v0R5T)

56
Ace called us Racists again.
Posted by: wth

I was going to say they were all men. At first.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 14, 2025 06:49 PM (63Dwl)

57 CA, you are third on the list. Get back to me when we make NC whole new

Posted by: Ben Had at January 14, 2025 06:49 PM (0wWvl)

58 "So they want the rest of us to pay for their folly. As usual."

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Sounds like taxation without representation to me. I can think of at least one revolution that was fought over this very issue.

Posted by: 496 at January 14, 2025 06:49 PM (9muBF)

59 Just thumbing through my dog eared copy of the Constitution.
Nope. I don’t see that the Federal gubmint is required, nor even authorized, to pay for a state’s dumb-assery.
Not even under the Good & Plenty Clause.

Posted by: RI Red - will work for table scraps at January 14, 2025 06:50 PM (jIN9D)

60 30
The one thing they have in common is that they all traveled to do their looting.

Are they the scooter looters?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 14, 2025 06:45 PM (63Dwl)

Take the trolley, take the bus...
https://youtu.be/DARd7mse7vk

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 14, 2025 06:50 PM (ynpvh)

61 Easier in theory than in fact, but one distinction between conservatives and progressives is that progressives believe everything would be OK if we could just shield people from the consequences of the acts. Criminals need protection punishment for their crimes. Women need protection from the consequences of promiscuity. The homeless need protection from being bums. Here California chose the form of its destruction and Hair Gel and Big Mouth need protection from the consequences of their policies.

Posted by: Neil Diamond at January 14, 2025 06:50 PM (L/fGl)

62 54 Honest question here. Like most of us here I've been following the fires closely.
Tens of thousands of people evacuated. 10,000 homes lost to flames.

Okay, I see that but, where did they all go? I haven't seen FEMA trailers brought in. No tent cities. I know the wealthiest of them have probably left for their third or fourth home, possibly on a different continent. Where is everyone else?
Posted by: Winston, GOPe, McFailure wing of the Uniparty at January 14, 2025 06:48 PM (vjZp0)

The fires are an op. Crisis actors.

Posted by: almost alex jones at January 14, 2025 06:50 PM (zUe/H)

63 Hey, 770 bucks will get you a pretty decent haul of hooch.

Posted by: Old Lady Emhoff at January 14, 2025 06:50 PM (dg+HA)

64 [O/T -- ] BREAKING: Per Xwitter, Sen. Ernst is a Yes on Hegseth -- which secures his confirmation as SecDef.

Posted by: ShainS -- Commie-Caused Conflagrations Created Califzuela's Chernobyl at January 14, 2025 06:50 PM (AMShk)

65 All those congress critters need to read the story of the farmer and David Crockett. Same situation.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 14, 2025 06:50 PM (u73oe)

66 Okay, I see that but, where did they all go? I haven't seen FEMA trailers brought in. No tent cities. I know the wealthiest of them have probably left for their third or fourth home, possibly on a different continent. Where is everyone else?
Posted by: Winston, GOPe, McFailure wing of the Uniparty at January 14, 2025 06:48 PM (vjZp0)
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Churches are providing shelter, as are other community organizations. Some people are staying with friends or family. It really depends.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 14, 2025 06:50 PM (ZOv7s)

67 34 Disgusting news from Texas. GOP turncoats allied with Democrats to deny a conservative speaker.

This is the real political battle now; the GOP-e sellouts are openly siding with the left to hang onto power.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 14, 2025 06:46 PM (wyMQY)

All the traitors need to be primaried out.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 14, 2025 06:51 PM (ynpvh)

68 Why oh why won't we believe in climate change?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
......

We have failed our betters again.

Posted by: wth at January 14, 2025 06:51 PM (v0R5T)

69 Ace called us Racists again.
Posted by: wth

I was going to say they were all men. At first.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

You can't tell how they identify from a mug shot! Genderist!!

Posted by: mikeski at January 14, 2025 06:51 PM (DgGvY)

70 40 Since we will undoubtedly end up sending $$ to CA, we should at least call it a loan. With a serious interest rate.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 14, 2025 06:47 PM (1bNHn)

Biden and Obama made lots of loans to favored companies...that were never paid back...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 14, 2025 06:52 PM (ynpvh)

71 California is like the guy who murders his parents and wants sympathy and money because he’s an orphan.

California : Screw you Federal government and your ICE agency . And don’t tell us we can’t have Sanctuary cities.

Also California: please Federal government Help Us. !!!

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 14, 2025 06:52 PM (D6PGr)

72 The climate is changing.. but "we" don't have much of a say in it .

Posted by: It's me donna at January 14, 2025 06:53 PM (VE6XX)

73 BIDEN: "People impacted by these fires are gonna receive one-time payment of $770. One-time payment."

Hey man I'm Hobo Jackson. I'm leader in this here metro jungle homeless camp. Ill be handling all payments for wildfire rescue from now on.

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 14, 2025 06:53 PM (jQ+5q)

74 Okay, I see that but, where did they all go? I haven't seen FEMA trailers brought in. No tent cities. I know the wealthiest of them have probably left for their third or fourth home, possibly on a different continent. Where is everyone else?
Posted by: Winston, GOPe, McFailure wing of the Uniparty at January 14, 2025 06:48 PM (vjZp0)

Hotels are pretty full, and word is some are starting to raise rates.... but... 100,000 people displaced by the fires is a drop in the bucket. Calif is reported to have almost 150,000 hotel rooms.

Add in people staying with family?

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 14, 2025 06:53 PM (QAkQ3)

75 I was thinking they are all Nappy headed.

Posted by: eleven at January 14, 2025 06:53 PM (fV+MH)

76 We shouldn't give a damn dime to California. They are in such a financial mess that I wouldn't put it past Newsom to have concocted this whole inferno for the charity / rebuilding monies. It's like the owner of a failing business setting the building on fire and burning it to the ground to collect the insurance monies.

If monies are sent to California, I want a group NOT CONNECTED to California government in any way to manage it. They need to be fully vested and background checked, and an oversight organization needs to be appointed to keep track of every single penny.

Posted by: Tim Carlson at January 14, 2025 06:53 PM (riwsf)

77 Start having them pay into a FEMA-like entity - and it only pays out if 80% or more of the property is burnt to the ground. No mere smoke damage or damaged guesthouse.

Lord knows many members of my family - not me, because I'm about three houses beyond the FEMA-designated flood plain - have had to pay into the fund without ever taking out. Let those living in the fiery zones feel it in their pockets.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at January 14, 2025 06:45 PM

This could work. I pay into the federal unemployment insurance fund every year for my employees. While it isn't a huge sum I do have to cut them an electronic check every year just in case one of my employees winds up collecting federal unemployment money because the state runs of of their unemployment funds.

There could be a fund set up for state disasters that would pay out after the state ran out of $$$$ for a natural disaster, with the iron clad caveat that the state had to exhaust up their own money before any federal relief started flowing to them.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 14, 2025 06:53 PM (Rcnd3)

78 $770 might buy you a crappy tent to live in.

Posted by: wth at January 14, 2025 06:53 PM (v0R5T)

79 Never let a crisis go to waste!

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Squaw Senator Warren and others have set up charities for the the victims in which they get a piece of the action.

Posted by: Neil Diamond at January 14, 2025 06:53 PM (L/fGl)

80 I like the photo array. Dude in the upper left corner should be thrashed with a sjambok just because.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 14, 2025 06:53 PM (zUe/H)

81 My guess is they are all POC. Where's the diversity?!?

Posted by: Tim Carlson at January 14, 2025 06:54 PM (riwsf)

82 I only stay at 5-star motels.

Posted by: eleven at January 14, 2025 06:54 PM (fV+MH)

83 Lol.

NBC News.

America's concern is that TikTok could manipulate what people see or steal their data.

After seeing the West the last 5 years, I'll take that chance.....

Posted by: Stateless at January 14, 2025 06:54 PM (jvJvP)

84 DEI strikes again. When the Dems admit that their policies caused these disasters and renounce them I might consider aid. But it ain't going to happen.

Posted by: TJ Jackson at January 14, 2025 06:54 PM (bXvrr)

85 70 40 Since we will undoubtedly end up sending $$ to CA, we should at least call it a loan. With a serious interest rate.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 14, 2025 06:47 PM (1bNHn)

Biden and Obama made lots of loans to favored companies...that were never paid back...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 14, 2025 06:52 PM (ynpvh)
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Do what the Romans did. Make them send their own kids as hostages.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 14, 2025 06:54 PM (1bNHn)

86 75 I was thinking they are all Nappy headed.

Posted by: eleven at January 14, 2025 06:53 PM (fV+MH)

From Napa Valley then?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 14, 2025 06:55 PM (ynpvh)

87 I’m sure most who owned homes have family or friends helping them temporarily.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 14, 2025 06:55 PM (D6PGr)

88 Easier in theory than in fact, but one distinction between conservatives and progressives is that progressives believe everything would be OK if we could just shield people from the consequences of the acts.
Posted by: Neil Diamond at January 14, 2025 06:50 PM (L/fGl)
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Long before I was 29, I took a class on American conservatism and one of the key concepts was some version of Original Sin; that is the fallibility of humans. Progressives believe in the perfectibility of man - with the right teaching, training, incentives and if we destroy the harmful effects of religion and tradition, we can make paradise on earth.

Conservatives take a more realistic and pessimistic view, one based on history and observable reality.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 14, 2025 06:56 PM (ZOv7s)

89 the looters "all share one common trait."
.......

They go to the same barber?

Posted by: wth at January 14, 2025 06:56 PM (v0R5T)

90 "From Napa Valley then?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)"

Napoleonic.

Posted by: eleven at January 14, 2025 06:56 PM (fV+MH)

91 $770? How do they come up with that number? What a bunch of cheapskates. Do they have to pay income tax on it too?

Posted by: fd at January 14, 2025 06:56 PM (vFG9F)

92 Distinguished looking group. Looters who look just like America.

Four over from the right, and three down looks like he just remembered that he left some meth on the stove.

Posted by: Paco at January 14, 2025 06:56 PM (mADJX)

93 Seeking to Condition That Relief on Policy Changes

I have a condition: you become a territory until you can prove your elections are real. Chains of custody, voter roll audits, etc.

Posted by: t-bird at January 14, 2025 06:57 PM (633JL)

94 $770? How do they come up with that number? What a bunch of cheapskates. Do they have to pay income tax on it too?
Posted by: fd
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$770 THOUSAND won't even buy you a house in L.A.

Posted by: wth at January 14, 2025 06:58 PM (v0R5T)

95 I have a condition: you become a territory until you can prove your elections are real. Chains of custody, voter roll audits, etc.
Posted by: t-bird at January 14, 2025 06:57 PM (633JL)
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If they can't get the results in by midnight, their votes are void.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 14, 2025 06:58 PM (ZOv7s)

96 If rethugs had been in charge the regulations and building codes would have been so much more lax the whole damned LA and surrounding counties would go up in flames!

Look at the CA districts where the GQP is elected. They aren't the ones that burned. Of course they will play politics with relief funds.

What has Florida/Texas/Louisiana/Mississippi done to mitigate disasters. They build right back with federal tax dollars backstopping the stupidity.

There is absolutely no pushback from the media on the lies about CA's policies. I hope this destroys Republicans, though I have little hope anything can.

Natural disasters are going to get worse and more frequent, and the Republicans see it as a chance to make money. They are horrible people.

Jimmy Carter's death highlights the pretend values of today’s GOP. The GOP religion is just a con dressed in spiritual words that are used to disguise their greed, hate and deceit.

It is baffling that people do not understand Trump is a ruthless psychopath. It’s only pay for play. He will NEVER sign off on anything unless he gets something in return. And we know what he demands from women.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at January 14, 2025 06:58 PM (fY3hQ)

97 I do fee bad that celebrities as well as unknown people have lost possibly everything, buy again paying for California fk ups isn't changing anything. They will still vote for the fk ups and go back where they were.

Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2025 06:59 PM (fwDg9)

98 Tell them they're not getting a fucking dime until they use that $50 million to 'fight Trump' on their own citizens.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at January 14, 2025 06:59 PM (lCHt6)

99 California can kiss my ass. So can any Republican who votes to bail out their insurance fund. They have tens of millions for their follies. They neglected basic fire safety and forestry measures that led to this disaster. They prioritized a fish over providing reservoirs and farmers water. They elected incompetents to run the state, and they’re already largely saying it isn’t their fault.

You voted for it. None of us did. Enjoy, because anyone voting to bail them out should be primaried.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 14, 2025 06:59 PM (rTx0Q)

100 About 30 people have been arrested for suspected looting.

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They look like a cross section of America.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 14, 2025 06:59 PM (L/fGl)

101 $770 THOUSAND won't even buy you a house in L.A.
Posted by: wth at January 14, 2025 06:58 PM (v0R5T)
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It will now. Oh, you meant standing and not burned to a cinder. My mistake.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 14, 2025 06:59 PM (tT6L1)

102 I think there's a gal in there in the second row.
Maybe.

Posted by: wth at January 14, 2025 06:59 PM (v0R5T)

103 Do what the Romans did. Make them send their own kids as hostages.
Posted by: Eeyore

So they can be treated like the British girls by the Paki invaders?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 14, 2025 06:59 PM (/bYFX)

104 Here's what they should do. Do NOT write a blank check. Appoint a special master with authority over disbursements in the areas of reconstruction and future mitigation. Programs overseen by the Special Master are exempt from state and local ordinances. Quarterly audit reports of all spending as well as progress reports.

Full transparency.

Posted by: blaster at January 14, 2025 06:59 PM (QfvaV)

105 Sending money to California will be like sending money to Louisiana and Mississippi after Katrina.

Okay maybe not as bad. That was the biggest mismanagement of money in history right up to the COVID relief debacle.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 14, 2025 06:59 PM (D6PGr)

106 The Daily Mail wants you to know that the looters have "all share one common trait."

I'd better not go there.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 14, 2025 07:00 PM (mH6SG)

107 They look like a cross section of America.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 14, 2025 06:59 PM (L/fGl)
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If Obama had a son.....

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 14, 2025 07:00 PM (tT6L1)

108 This is the real political battle now; the GOP-e sellouts are openly siding with the left to hang onto power.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 14, 2025 06:46 PM (wyMQY)

All the traitors need to be primaried out.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 14, 2025 06:51 PM (ynpvh)

Yes, it's a nasty problem in Texas, and in much of the country. The GOP-e controls the Party apparatus, because there haven't been any big names in State Politics on the legislative level. So the GOP-e controls the candidate selection level, and there hasn't been any funding to fight intra-party fights for those who would like to. So, although Republicans are in a huge majority in the Texas House, only 55 of them voted for the conservative Speaker's candidate, and 39 of them voted with the Democrats for a squish speaker.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 14, 2025 07:01 PM (wyMQY)

109 Just thumbing through my dog eared copy of the Constitution.
Nope. I don’t see that the Federal gubmint is required, nor even authorized, to pay for a state’s dumb-assery.
Not even under the Good & Plenty Clause.
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I prefer the Now & Later Clause.

Posted by: Crusader at January 14, 2025 07:01 PM (TN0g+)

110 I will never support Federal Govt. mandated charity. I will, always, support voluntary charity of a private nature.

I wonder what the word would be if every time some state instituted a State Emergency a special Referendum vote would be held nationwide, the result of which would determine if Federal funds would be available, and in what capacity... (non-interest loan, low interest loan, outright gift). Obviously, there is a time factor, but there could be a default process that may or may not require a payback by the State receiving the benefits.

Posted by: Orson at January 14, 2025 07:01 PM (dIske)

111 Jimmy Carter's death highlights the pretend values of today’s GOP.

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I'm not smart like the DUmmies but, da fuq?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 14, 2025 07:01 PM (L/fGl)

112 104 Here's what they should do. Do NOT write a blank check. Appoint a special master with authority..."

Didn't the New Yorker article say that Neil Gaiman is good at that???

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 14, 2025 07:02 PM (wyMQY)

113 We know one thing. PDT isn't going to be blank check Bribe'em for California.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 14, 2025 07:02 PM (0wWvl)

114 Seriously, these republican sellouts in the article are looking for changes? This is a negotiation? The answer should be, dig deeper California. It’s your insurance fund, not the countries.

This is why you will never get change to visit Commiefornia. It’s weak ass, low IQ jackasses like these people. How about you got take a look at how Sacramento spent their money, dunces.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 14, 2025 07:02 PM (rTx0Q)

115 Dude in the upper left corner should be thrashed with a sjambok just because.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 14, 2025 06:53 PM (zUe/H)

I learned a new word! And...ColdSteel makes one.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 14, 2025 07:02 PM (d9fT1)

116 Trump warned California years ago. I think he used Finland as an example of what California should be doing to mitigate fires.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 14, 2025 07:02 PM (D6PGr)

117 Good leverage if conservatives use it. I live in kalifornia and I say

NO MONEY FOR THEM. THEY WON'T LEARN WITHOUT EXTREME PAIN.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at January 14, 2025 07:03 PM (17s+e)

118 It will now. Oh, you meant standing and not burned to a cinder. My mistake.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1)

FIRE SALE. Lots. Cheap. Cash only.

Posted by: wth Real Estate LLC at January 14, 2025 07:03 PM (v0R5T)

119 101 $770 THOUSAND won't even buy you a house in L.A.
Posted by: wth at January 14, 2025 06:58 PM (v0R5T)
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It will now. Oh, you meant standing and not burned to a cinder. My mistake.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 14, 2025 06:59 PM (tT6L1)

I'll bet that just buying a Lot in Pac Palisades will be Hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 14, 2025 07:03 PM (QAkQ3)

120 They look like a cross section of America.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Yeah, all of America south of our non-enforced borders.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 14, 2025 07:03 PM (/bYFX)

121 If Obama had a son.....
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 14, 2025 07:00 PM (tT6L1)
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...he'd be gay like his dad?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 14, 2025 07:03 PM (ZOv7s)

122 You will be made to pay.

Posted by: jsg at January 14, 2025 07:04 PM (Fg0Nr)

123 They look like a cross section of America.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Yeah, all of America south of our non-enforced borders.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 14, 2025 07:03 PM (/bYFX)
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A cross section of South America, then.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 14, 2025 07:04 PM (tT6L1)

124 Those "suburbs" like Altadena, Pasadena and Palisades have been settled for 75-100 years.

I hate the media.

Posted by: PJ at January 14, 2025 07:04 PM (RRCAT)

125 The Daily Mail wants you to know that the looters have "all share one common trait."

I'd better not go there.
Posted by: Notorious BFD
......

Lack of personal hygiene?

Posted by: wth at January 14, 2025 07:04 PM (v0R5T)

126 98 Tell them they're not getting a fucking dime until they use that $50 million to 'fight Trump' on their own citizens. - DudeAbiding

An absolutely first-rate idea!

Posted by: Paco at January 14, 2025 07:05 PM (mADJX)

127 I think there's a gal in there in the second row.
Maybe.
Posted by: wth

Are you a biologist?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 14, 2025 07:05 PM (L/fGl)

128 117 Good leverage if conservatives use it. I live in kalifornia and I say

NO MONEY FOR THEM. THEY WON'T LEARN WITHOUT EXTREME PAIN.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at January 14, 2025 07:03 PM (17s+e)

Adam Corolla had that great rant.

None of these 'people' are being paid to cut through red tape and let them rebuild in newly virgin territory. You gotta protect Gaia at all costs.

There will be pain.

Posted by: Stateless at January 14, 2025 07:05 PM (jvJvP)

129 125 The Daily Mail wants you to know that the looters have "all share one common trait."

Yes; They're all looters.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 14, 2025 07:06 PM (MQJVv)

130 FIRE SALE. Lots. Cheap. Cash only.
Posted by: wth Real Estate LLC at January 14, 2025 07:03 PM (v0R5T)

My prediction, which I stand by, is that real estate corporations affiliated with the Chinese CCP will be given the green light to buy up vast amounts of this land, and they will then cover it with multifamily projects to house their own people which they will start bringing in. In 20 years there won't be any Americans left there.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 14, 2025 07:06 PM (wyMQY)

131 Because Democrats have a 100% track record of keeping their promises.

They'll agree to anything.

And then laugh as they walk away.

Posted by: jsg at January 14, 2025 07:07 PM (Fg0Nr)

132
We need federal intervention in CA to overrule the insurance commission, coastal commission, government caving in to demented environmentalists, coddling hobos, sanctuary cities, etc., etc.

If federal assistance is used as leverage, fine. The government here is out of money because they spend too much on bullshit. Don't just write them a check, put your boot on their necks.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 14, 2025 07:07 PM (t1fZA)

133 Trump should promise to bail out CA if Gavin commits seppuku on TV.

Posted by: wth at January 14, 2025 07:07 PM (v0R5T)

134
NO MONEY FOR THEM. THEY WON'T LEARN WITHOUT EXTREME PAIN.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger

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Pain is best teacher. And it's not always fun.

Posted by: haffhowershower at January 14, 2025 07:08 PM (NMT5x)

135 Conditions for Calif to get money?

Numero Uno: Stop the Silly High Speed Rail to nowhere in Central Calif, and use that money to rebuild.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 14, 2025 07:08 PM (QAkQ3)

136 NEWSCUM AND THE COMMIES RUNNING KALIFORNIA: i WANT BILLIONS FOR REBUILDING. i WANT BILLIONS FOR GRAFT. i WANT BILLIONS FOR COMMIE IDEAS AND BILLIONS FOR ILLEGALS. i WANT BILL...

TRUMP: YOU'LL GET NOTHING AND LIKE IT.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at January 14, 2025 07:08 PM (17s+e)

137 All the Uber rich people in California, the ones who have run the state into the ground, are not affected by this. They had their own private fire departments protect their homes. They had private security keep out the looters. They are sitting this out in their other homes in Wyoming and Montana. It’s inconsequential to them. That isn’t a recipe for change. It’s not even an argument for a bailout. It’s the cause for this entire problem and until that is addressed nothing will change.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 14, 2025 07:08 PM (rTx0Q)

138 Of course the Goverment will bail them out. They bailed out New Orleans and those idiots are living below sea level.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 14, 2025 07:08 PM (mzM2O)

139 Trump should promise to bail out CA if Gavin commits seppuku on TV.
Posted by: wth at January 14, 2025 07:07 PM (v0R5T)
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PPV. CA's budget is magically restored. Citizens, realizing the utility of of this approach, decide to auction off Sacramento legislators.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 14, 2025 07:09 PM (tT6L1)

140 If federal assistance is used as leverage, fine. The government here is out of money because they spend too much on bullshit. Don't just write them a check, put your boot on their necks.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 14, 2025 07:07 PM (t1fZA)

In an Emergency, the Calif Gov can over ride all State agencies... including the Coastal Commision and other State and Local Agencies...

But only for 60 days... as the law is currently written.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 14, 2025 07:09 PM (QAkQ3)

141 Check out this guy; he's like a roof Korean, but with hoses.

https://tinyurl.com/2pxk739c

Posted by: Paco at January 14, 2025 07:10 PM (mADJX)

142 NO MONEY FOR THEM. THEY WON'T LEARN WITHOUT EXTREME PAIN.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger

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Pain is best teacher. And it's not always fun.

Posted by: haffhowershower
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Lessons not learned in blood and pain are often and soon forgotten.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at January 14, 2025 07:10 PM (17s+e)

143 Texas Republicans invited the FBI to investigate the Texas Republican AG then used that investigation as the basis to impeach him.

So, yeah. Something wrong in Texas.

Posted by: blaster at January 14, 2025 07:10 PM (QfvaV)

144 139 Trump should promise to bail out CA if Gavin commits seppuku on TV.
Posted by: wth at January 14, 2025 07:07 PM (v0R5T)
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PPV. CA's budget is magically restored. Citizens, realizing the utility of of this approach, decide to auction off Sacramento legislators.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 14, 2025 07:09 PM (tT6L1)

Calif has a butt load of Land, that is not being used for squat...

Sell some.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 14, 2025 07:10 PM (QAkQ3)

145 Diversity has gotten California everything they wanted, force the citizens out

Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2025 07:10 PM (fwDg9)

146 California has the GDP of a small country. I think they can swing a hundred billion.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 14, 2025 07:10 PM (mzM2O)

147 There is that one (1) white guy amongst the looters. So, obviously, this is a right-wing plot to take over Commiefornia...

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at January 14, 2025 07:11 PM (XMwZJ)

148 143 Texas Republicans invited the FBI to investigate the Texas Republican AG then used that investigation as the basis to impeach him.

So, yeah. Something wrong in Texas.
Posted by: blaster at January 14, 2025 07:10 PM (QfvaV)

Just like Arizona GOP going Anti Lake... it's the GOPe.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 14, 2025 07:11 PM (QAkQ3)

149 And...ColdSteel makes one.

Using one of their canes, all composite, with crook top that looks like an axe head. Will have to leave it home when going to hospital next month. Security martinets would consider it "a weapon", confiscate and destroy it like my pocket knife last April.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle for festive little hats at January 14, 2025 07:12 PM (8gc1F)

150 If kalifornia agrees to become a territory, then we can give them 5% of what they are asking and review future amounts dependent upon their willingness to revise their communist ways.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at January 14, 2025 07:12 PM (17s+e)

151
Jimmy Carter's death highlights the pretend values of today’s GOP. The GOP religion is just a con dressed in spiritual words that are used to disguise their greed, hate and deceit.

It is baffling that people do not understand Trump is a ruthless psychopath. It’s only pay for play. He will NEVER sign off on anything unless he gets something in return. And we know what he demands from women.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions

Is this supposed to make sense?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 14, 2025 07:12 PM (63Dwl)

152 Ummm how about any funding CA was giving to illegals -- healthcare, housing, welfare -- gets redirected to fire victims and the feds will match those funds -- for fire victims -- and that's it.

Oh, and city/state agencies receiving federal funding while supporting sanctuary policies is cut off. They want to be sanctimonious, be so on your own peso, pendejo.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at January 14, 2025 07:12 PM (wBaIH)

153 Just like Arizona GOP going Anti Lake... it's the GOPe.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 14, 2025 07:11 PM (QAkQ3)
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the McCain machine still runs this state. Unfortunately.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 14, 2025 07:13 PM (tT6L1)

154
137 All the Uber rich people in California, the ones who have run the state into the ground, are not affected by this. They had their own private fire departments protect their homes. They had private security keep out the looters. They are sitting this out in their other homes in Wyoming and Montana. It’s inconsequential to them. That isn’t a recipe for change. It’s not even an argument for a bailout. It’s the cause for this entire problem and until that is addressed nothing will change.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 14, 2025 07:08 PM (rTx0Q

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They mostly have not escaped this.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 14, 2025 07:13 PM (xPNeT)

155 The only Democrat voter that will possibly wake up and change their voting pattern will be the people who lost a house or lost a job. The rest will forget about this a week after the last fire is extinguished.

I lost confidence in the Californian Dem voter waking up after the Steinle family still supported sanctuary cities after their daughter was abled to be murdered by an illegal in large part because of sanctuary cities.

Some people just can’t be saved.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 14, 2025 07:13 PM (D6PGr)

156 California can't not take care of the illegals. They would burn down the rest of the state.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 14, 2025 07:14 PM (0wWvl)

157 Oh - legislation appointing the special master for wildfires states that no funds will be disbursed to "sanctuary" jurisdictions or persons without legal presence.

Posted by: blaster at January 14, 2025 07:14 PM (QfvaV)

158 At least Texas didn’t elect a Dem speaker . That’s an improvement.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 14, 2025 07:15 PM (D6PGr)

159 Check out this guy; he's like a roof Korean, but with hoses.

https://tinyurl.com/2pxk739c
Posted by: Paco
.......

That is a great story! Thanks

Posted by: wth at January 14, 2025 07:16 PM (v0R5T)

160 So, yeah. Something wrong in Texas.
Posted by: blaster at January 14, 2025 07:10 PM (QfvaV)

Bush Family Machine is still rolling along. They hate, hate hate Ken Paxton because he ended the career of their Golden Boy, George P Bush - that's what his impeachment last year was really all about.

Eyepatch McCain is Bush Family lapdog all the way - but also don't be fooled by Chip Roy, he says conservative things but he's always been real close to the Machine.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 14, 2025 07:16 PM (wyMQY)

161 Lots of millions of dollars estates went up in flames

Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2025 07:16 PM (fwDg9)

162 California has about 700 million in their insurance piggy bank.

Palisades alone is like 7 billion and in damage.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 14, 2025 07:16 PM (mzM2O)

163 'Seeking to Condition That Relief on Policy Changes'

Make compliance with deportations one of those changes.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 14, 2025 07:17 PM (3wi/L)

164 158 At least Texas didn’t elect a Dem speaker . That’s an improvement.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 14, 2025 07:15 PM (D6PGr)

Dade Phelan was the Speaker who set up the impeachment of Paxton last term. He's out, but the guy who was just given the job was one of Phelan's top lieutenants. (Burrows)

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 14, 2025 07:17 PM (wyMQY)

165 Posted by: Tom Servo at January 14, 2025 07:16 PM (wyMQY)

You’re kidding right? That boogeyman has been dead for at least a decade.

And George P Bush was a big Trump supporter when it wasn’t cool or advantageous to be one.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 14, 2025 07:18 PM (D6PGr)

166 >> They mostly have not escaped this.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 14, 2025 07:13 PM (xPNeT)

I watched Caitlin Jenner talk about how he or whatever avoided disaster like that. As did the whole shitbag Kardashian clan and a bunch of others. Jenner aside, the people turning out on the right side of this are Uber rich assholes who pay the large share of taxes and donations to Democrats.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 14, 2025 07:19 PM (rTx0Q)

167 Hey they can just write it off!
Write what off?
It's a write off, Jerry, they just write it off.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at January 14, 2025 07:19 PM (wBaIH)

168 Here's good news! Headline on the 'local' paper (the 14th, today), which is now owned by Gannett, and is just USA Today Lite.

"FEMA Extends Deadline For Flood Victims In Hotels"

Headline 'article' explains that FEMA has extended the deadline from the 12th, to...wait for it...today. The 14th.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 14, 2025 07:19 PM (XeU6L)

169 The prospect of Newsom getting billions of dollars in unmarked bills? Remember, he literally opposes financial audits and accountability. He vetoed audits.

People were wondering why Newsom was doing the giddy, manic, smiley shoulder dance - is he on drugs they ask? No, not on drugs (okay, maybe psychotropics).

His whole system of governance is predicated on an extreme form of clientelism. Biden’s handler’s shoveled billions of dollars into Newsom’s activist crematorium.

One only rents activist mercenaries, they never stay bought.

Posted by: Lord Beaverbrook at January 14, 2025 07:20 PM (j7zjh)

170 They're all sharp dressers?

Posted by: Just a guess at January 14, 2025 07:21 PM (dg+HA)

171 We should totally trust people with billions of dollars who declared voter id illegal and are allocating $50 million to essentially fight the federal government

Posted by: Marcus T at January 14, 2025 07:21 PM (rTx0Q)

172 the looters "all share one common trait."

They're all sharp dressers?
Posted by: Just a guess
.......

They all make a mean tortilla?

Posted by: wth at January 14, 2025 07:22 PM (v0R5T)

173 Posted by: Tom Servo at January 14, 2025 07:17 PM (wyMQY)

And he was unsuccessful. To be honest, if Paxton wasn’t an all star at his position I would have probably voted for impeachment. But he is bigley.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 14, 2025 07:23 PM (D6PGr)

174 They're all sharp dressers?
Posted by: Just a guess at January 14, 2025 07:21 PM

Then every woman crazy 'bout them!

Posted by: ZZ Top at January 14, 2025 07:23 PM (a3Q+t)

175 Diversity has gotten California everything they wanted, force the citizens out

Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2025 07:10 PM (fwDg9)

California has been the best and the worst of America. A total paradox.

Posted by: coyne at January 14, 2025 07:24 PM (7ik3U)

176 Newsom let 24 people die and 10,000 homes burn in order to save a sardine.

If that fucker ever sees the White House then this country is gone.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 14, 2025 07:24 PM (mzM2O)

177 136 NEWSCUM AND THE COMMIES RUNNING KALIFORNIA: i WANT BILLIONS FOR REBUILDING. i WANT BILLIONS FOR GRAFT. i WANT BILLIONS FOR COMMIE IDEAS AND BILLIONS FOR ILLEGALS. i WANT BILL...

TRUMP: YOU'LL GET NOTHING AND LIKE IT.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger

My offer is this. Nothing. Not even the $750 for affected families, which I would appreciate if you put up personally.

Posted by: Don Trumpleone at January 14, 2025 07:24 PM (Nb2aK)

178 I have been saying this from the beginning. The Left will kill you for money, power and sex with children.

There is no money in it if the fire damage was $10M, there is some money given to the Left when the damage is over $1B, but the Left in Government will gladly engineer a disaster to be an epic disaster if it bring them the $100B+ damages which is the price of the lottery ticket to win the US Congress Grand Prize Sweepstakes for tens if not hundreds of billions of dollars directly injected into local and state government to add to their already colossal slush fund. If the lobbying for even greater payout from Babylon DC they will even get a permanent agency that will squander billions to "study" and "manage" the problem.

Destroying lives through seditious policies pays extremely well - Generational Wealth for many connected Leftists.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at January 14, 2025 07:24 PM (rHxhM)

179 it is a tragedy.
Thousands of every day folks have lost everything. They are the victims of layers and layers of corrupt bureaucracy. You could of changed that. You didn't.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 14, 2025 07:25 PM (W/lyH)

180 The Daily Mail wants you to know that the looters have "all share one common trait.

Brown eyes.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 14, 2025 07:25 PM (aD39U)

181 They're all sharp dressers?
Posted by: Just a guess

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Zoot suits, ftw!

Posted by: Karine Jean-Pierre at January 14, 2025 07:25 PM (XeU6L)

182 In 1992 after Hurricane Andrew Florida National Guard rode in open Humvee's brandishing automatic weapons. Looting diminished considerably to put it lightly...

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 14, 2025 07:26 PM (jQ+5q)

183 California has been the best and the worst of America. A total paradox.
Posted by: coyne
-----

Self-indulgence comes at a cost.

Posted by: Karine Jean-Pierre at January 14, 2025 07:26 PM (XeU6L)

184 W. NC Americans were offered $750 after Helene. What FEMA does not tell you is that it is a "loan." And it might buy you a tent and a week's worth of groceries. Their land grab, if it happens, is for pure crystal for semi-conductors made in chy na. And lithium for batteries.

Shortly after FEMA handed out this money for NC, they were supposedly broke. No doubt from countless billions sent to the you crane and laundered into Dim pockets. The people of W NC did not have, obviously, FEMA flood insurance which is, no doubt, also tapped out. Insurances in many places are doing the CA deal and cancelling policies due to potential fire and whatever they feel like at this point. If you have a mortgage you have to have insurance. This will add to the already horrific housing crisis

I assume the land grabs, if they happen, in both Maui and Malibu are for views as I don't know. Please note there were no land grabs in NOLA after Katrina that I am aware of.

Julia Roberts aka The Mouth has a home in New Mexico where she lives most of the time with her fugly husband and spawn. She probably has a house in LA or somewhere. Most have second or third homes, so no worries for them insurance or not.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 14, 2025 07:26 PM (gi+MR)

185 Here's another idea, how's about every dime that was previously going to go to Ukraine, goes to Californica.

They can sure find the cash when Z man demands it.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 14, 2025 07:27 PM (lH8E4)

186 What's the chance that South Korea has fallen to communists?

I don't see any reporting on what's been going on other than from the usual leftist sources. I actually see very little news about the current state of the country at all that isn't copypasta from hard left state policy groups like the Atlantic Council. It is all extremely controlled and focused on narrative.

What's going on there?

Posted by: banana Dream at January 14, 2025 07:27 PM (Y6IkP)

187 Newsome would have done better than Harris. That’s how bad Harris is.

I think the Dems streak for have a progressively worse candidate each Presidential election has ended with Harris. Unless they nominate the Sloppy tit bartender. But would she be worse?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 14, 2025 07:27 PM (D6PGr)

188 the looters "all share one common trait."

Last real job was on a roadside taco truck?

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 14, 2025 07:27 PM (jQ+5q)

189 How about Ukraine bails out California? They got everyone's Monopoly money.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 14, 2025 07:28 PM (mzM2O)

190 Dade Phelan was the Speaker who set up the impeachment of Paxton last term. He's out, but the guy who was just given the job was one of Phelan's top lieutenants. (Burrows)

The so-called Republican shit stain that "represents" my District voted with the Democrats.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at January 14, 2025 07:28 PM (rHxhM)

191 Newsom let 24 people die ...
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At this count, 110 people in NC. But, toothless hillbillies, so not so important.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 14, 2025 07:28 PM (XeU6L)

192 Blah Blah says that California should be rebuilt using a payroll tax deducted from young workers paychecks each payday, like social security is done. They are young and stupid and won't even know it has been deducted until it is too late. Maybe 5% each pay day so everyone can afford to contribute. Use the money to rebuild the public schools first to protect our future!

Posted by: Harriet And Blah Blah Nyborg, Democrat Boomers at January 14, 2025 07:28 PM (R/m4+)

193 "The Daily Mail wants you to know that the looters have "all share one common trait.

Brown eyes.
Posted by: Grump928(C)"

Everybody's got one!

Posted by: fd at January 14, 2025 07:29 PM (vFG9F)

194 182 In 1992 after Hurricane Andrew Florida National Guard rode in open Humvee's brandishing automatic weapons. Looting diminished considerably to put it lightly...
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It!

That is a nightmare scenario for the National Guard. Every state has a plan for use of force against civilians, but it hasn't been dusted off or reviewed in many years. Sooooo many issues. Generally, governors try to use law enforcement, and Guardsmen provide security in lower threat areas to free-up law enforcement.

Or, troops are put under control of law enforcement officers and follow their direction.

Posted by: Military Moron at January 14, 2025 07:30 PM (Nb2aK)

195 "That Harris is one smart cookie. We're going to look back one day and regret we didn't get a chance of unleashing that great mind in an office like the Presidency."

Posted by: Nobody, Ever at January 14, 2025 07:30 PM (TN0g+)

196 Hecho en Mexico.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 14, 2025 07:30 PM (dR6yv)

197 196 Hecho en Mexico.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 14, 2025 07:30 PM (dR6yv

Huevos Rancheros?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 14, 2025 07:31 PM (mzM2O)

198 "The Daily Mail wants you to know that the looters have "all share one common trait.

Bot fly larvae embedded in body parts?

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 14, 2025 07:31 PM (jQ+5q)

199 I know what 90% of those looters have in common. They weren’t born in the US.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 14, 2025 07:32 PM (D6PGr)

200 Looters> situational opportunists

Posted by: Ben Had at January 14, 2025 07:33 PM (0wWvl)

201 Nice of the universe to give Biden and the Dems one more kick in the nuts before he leaves office.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at January 14, 2025 07:33 PM (Nb2aK)

202 >>> Everybody's got one!
Posted by: fd at January 14, 2025 07:29 PM (vFG9F)

I've heard they've got bleaching agents for that.

Posted by: banana Dream at January 14, 2025 07:33 PM (Y6IkP)

203 184 Julia Roberts aka The Mouth... - ChristyBlinkytheGreat

Yeah, it does look a little bit like a trash compactor.

Posted by: Paco at January 14, 2025 07:34 PM (mADJX)

204 The Daily Mail wants you to know that the looters have "all share one common trait."
=====
They'll all be quietly released and no charges allowed to move forwards?

Posted by: Nobody, Ever at January 14, 2025 07:34 PM (TN0g+)

205 Unfortunately fire damage doesn’t allow for Roof Koreans.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 14, 2025 07:34 PM (D6PGr)

206 Check out this guy; he's like a roof Korean, but with hoses.

https://tinyurl.com/2pxk739c
Posted by: Paco at January 14, 2025 07:10 PM (mADJX)

Holy crap!! That man is Superman. That took real balls, for sure.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at January 14, 2025 07:34 PM (iODuv)

207 And he was unsuccessful. To be honest, if Paxton wasn’t an all star at his position I would have probably voted for impeachment. But he is bigley.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 14, 2025 07:23 PM (D6PGr)

There's some similarities to Trump's position; Paxton is brash, throws elbows everywhere, has always operated on the edge of propriety, pisses off a lot of people, and doesn't care. But just like Lincoln said when defending Grant against the personal accusations, He Fights! He Fights like Hell, and after having lived through all these GOP-e squished who talk a big game and then surrender at the first hint of any difficulty, all I want is someone who Fights! and won't give up. I want a Bulldog, not a social meeting coordinator.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 14, 2025 07:34 PM (wyMQY)

208 Oh, California,
Can I see you and shake your head?
Make fiends down in California
I'm from a sane land, I come to you and
See all this fire, what are you doing?

California, you've got the rest of the Union
To help you along
What's going wrong*?

*Don't answer that, we already know.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 14, 2025 07:35 PM (lH8E4)

209 205 Unfortunately fire damage doesn’t allow for Roof Koreans.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 14, 2025 07:34 PM (D6PGr)

Well, technically it does but only for a short while before Korean BBQ.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 14, 2025 07:35 PM (mzM2O)

210 "The Daily Mail wants you to know that the looters have "all share one common traits"

Democrats.

Posted by: fd at January 14, 2025 07:35 PM (vFG9F)

211 Julia Roberts

A horse is a horse is a horse of course

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 14, 2025 07:35 PM (D6PGr)

212 96
'It is baffling that people do not understand Trump is a ruthless psychopath. '

You're right. I don't think Trump is a ruthless psychopath.
But I want him to be. I want him to make you fuckers howl.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 14, 2025 07:36 PM (3wi/L)

213 Migas > Huevos Rancheros

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 14, 2025 07:36 PM (dR6yv)

214 I wonder if you could use those Crest whitening strips, just, you know, at the other end.

Posted by: banana Dream at January 14, 2025 07:36 PM (Y6IkP)

215 I didn't do nothing--- the horse.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 14, 2025 07:36 PM (0wWvl)

216
Or, troops are put under control of law enforcement officers and follow their direction.
Posted by: Military Moron at January 14, 2025 07:30 PM (Nb2aK
Hurricane Andrew created 600,000 homeless people one day after.
Homeowners were in dire straights and looters were running rampant. Florida being a right to carry state creates a whole set of knuckleheads running around with guns.. BUT all in all right to carry is a good thing.

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 14, 2025 07:37 PM (jQ+5q)

217 214 I wonder if you could use those Crest whitening strips, just, you know, at the other end.

Posted by: banana Dream at January 14, 2025 07:36 PM (Y6IkP

Things some people wonder...

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 14, 2025 07:37 PM (mzM2O)

218 - Not,,, One,,, Red,,, Cent
They have looked down their noses at the rest of us while voting for their oh so enlightened policies for most of my life.

You've got all the cheap labor you need Kommiefornia, make use of it.

Posted by: TeeJ at January 14, 2025 07:37 PM (kjZOX)

219 188 the looters "all share one common trait."
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Last real job was on a roadside taco truck?
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 14, 2025 07:27 PM (jQ+5q)

Rams season ticket holders?

Posted by: BurtTC at January 14, 2025 07:37 PM (lH8E4)

220 Sadly this is gonna spike lumber prices again.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 14, 2025 07:38 PM (mzM2O)

221 The Daily Mail wants you to know that the looters have "all share one common trait.

Brown eyes.
Posted by: Grump928(C)

Not a paraplegic among them.

Posted by: mikeski at January 14, 2025 07:39 PM (DgGvY)

222 Here come the $80 sheets of plywood.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 14, 2025 07:39 PM (dR6yv)

223 The Daily Mail wants you to know that the looters have "all share one common trait.

None of them are posting on the

NOOD Cafe thread.

Posted by: mikeski at January 14, 2025 07:40 PM (DgGvY)

224 And he was unsuccessful. To be honest, if Paxton wasn’t an all star at his position I would have probably voted for impeachment. But he is bigley.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 14, 2025 07:23 PM (D6PGr)

Why? What did he do?

Posted by: BurtTC at January 14, 2025 07:40 PM (lH8E4)

225 The whole thing is disgusting and could’ve been avoided.

Posted by: 13times at January 14, 2025 07:40 PM (2i4E/)

226 The cost of new housing is going to increase. Maybe the new Canadian guy will loosen up the lumber trade restrictions as leverage in negotiations with Trump .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 14, 2025 07:43 PM (D6PGr)

227 >>> Things some people wonder...
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 14, 2025 07:37 PM (mzM2O)

It's the engineer part of me. I'll think of something and won't be able to go to sleep until I figure it out. My brain won't shut off. At night I've thought of, "hey could this couch be shoved over on this side for more room?" and had to get up at 1am with a tape measure to know for sure. It's a good thing I don't have any whitening strips.

Posted by: banana Dream at January 14, 2025 07:44 PM (Y6IkP)

228 Funny mug shots. The kid in the top left is doing his Trump mug shot impersonation. I heard the bailiff say ok Pancho your celling with cartel hit man in the next photo.

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 14, 2025 07:45 PM (jQ+5q)

229 Mug shot follies.. second row second from the left was Juan Gonzalez but took advantage of the Biden offer to transition so she now identifies and Jaun with a red wig Gonzalez.

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 14, 2025 07:48 PM (jQ+5q)

230 Why? What did he do?
Posted by: BurtTC at January 14, 2025 07:40 PM (lH8E4)

You can read the articles of impeachment but basically he used his office to help out a big political donor and friend and tried to suppress a whistleblower complaint and subsequent suit.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 14, 2025 07:49 PM (D6PGr)

231 No free money for commies. Love it.

Should be called the

"But First, You Will Blow Me" Act.

Posted by: Sifty Boones at January 14, 2025 07:53 PM (4+GU8)

232 My favorite looter is the hyperthyroid bug eyed one. Someday they will fall out of his head (hopefully).

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 14, 2025 07:55 PM (gi+MR)

233 Thanks Paco, great story.

141 Check out this guy; he's like a roof Korean, but with hoses.

https://tinyurl.com/2pxk739c

Posted by: Southern Man at January 14, 2025 09:18 PM (z8+je)

234 1) California insurance commissioner must allow California residents to pay a minimum of the AVERAGE for insurance in Florida. Floridians currently pay about 4X what Californians pay due to hurricane risk. Its why they have insurance and California, doesn't.

2) Minimum bush clear MUST be done within 5 miles of residences.

3) California must IMMEDIATELY complete upgrade to all reservoirs, as authorized years ago.

Posted by: The Brown Gargantua at January 15, 2025 03:28 AM (w06PJ)

235 Tell California they can have whatever is left over in the FEMA funds that Biden didn't blow on illegals.

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236 The primary requirement must be that Northern Californians stop making Southern Californians beg for water. Policy makers in NorCal would rather dump the water into the ocean than depress water rates, or make the water plentiful, in SoCal. Since water is more of a human right than health care, this denial of water is a form of slavery. The NorCal policy makers must be investigated for human rights violations.

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