Wednesday Overnight Open Thread - January 15, 2025 [TRex]

Good evening Horde. The time has come for mid-week shenanigans of the overnight variety.

This is the low profile Wednesday night ONT. For this one, the afterburners are lit and we are in high altitude stealth mode for minimum detection.

[Photo: Blackbird Wind Tunnel Model with noses for the YF-12, SR-71, and A-12 (left to right), Blackbird Airpark, Palmdale, CA ]

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There seems to be a positive sentiment among the Horde towards the Lockheed Blackbird. You might sense a theme in this edition of the ONT. This is still an ONT, so feel free to comment as you wish. Just don't be a troll.

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Depending on how you count, four main variants were built: A-12, M-21, SR-71 and YF-12A. There is more to it, but:

A-12: First iteration built for the CIA, one pilot.
SR-71: Larger for longer range and more instruments, built for the Air Force, pilot and RSO aboard.
M-21: Mothership concept to carry and launch a drone.
YF-12A: Single seat concept designed for high altitude intercepts.

Thirty surviving Blackbirds are on display, mostly around the United States. The full list is here.

How many have you seen in person? The unofficial and unaudited TRex count is 18 but none in flight.

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This is an outstanding overview of the design and technical specs of a Blackbird. It is lengthy but uses three dimensional imagery to provide a detailed tour. There are some great nuggets, illustrations and explanations. For example, I had never seen a full explanation of the mixer at the rear that moves the flight control surfaces. I also never knew that the pilot had a pop up periscope to look back at the rear of the airplane.

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The entire Skunk Works design group for the Blackbird totaled seventy-five. Design took a little more than a year.

Kelly Johnson is known for his engineering and design prowess and establishment and operation of the Lockheed Skunkworks. He always wanted to work on airplanes. At the University of Michigan, he helped a professor operate the wind tunnel. He was allowed to use the wind tunnel for his own private contracts. His first customer was Studebaker.

After graduation, he tried to get a job at Lockheed in California, but they had no job for him. It was a difficult job market. They suggested he come back in a year. He went back to Michigan for a master's program and continued working with private contracts. The aerodynamics of five Studebakers in the 1933 Indianapolis 500 were designed by Kelly.

During this time, Lockheed sent a model for wind tunnel testing to Michigan. Kelly's professor did the work. Kelly disagreed with his findings. He graduated, got the job at Lockheed and was given a chance to prove his views. He was sent back to Michigan and came up with his own successful solution.

Timeline:

April 1958 - first evidence in Kelly Johnson's notes of intent to create a U-2 successor (early code name was Archangel)

September 1959 - CIA awards a contract to Lockheed to move forward with a Mach 3+ reconnaissance aircraft under code name Oxcart

November 1959 - Lockheed puts the first full size scale model on a pylon for radar testing at Groom Lake (Area 51)

January 1960 - CIA orders an initial five A-12 aircraft (increased to a dozen the next month)

February 1962 - The first A-12 arrives at Groom Lake

April 1962 - first test flight.

February 1964 - public acknowledgement and photos

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You have likely heard the Blackbird "speed check" story, but have you heard it told by Major Bryan Shul of Sled Driver frame?

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In motion:

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D-21 drone at Blackbird Airpark:

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Knowledge comes in many forms:

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Some of you were intrigued by the photo in the New Years Day edition of the ONT showing the B2 flyover of the Rose Parade and Rose Bowl. The picture is legit. Mark Holtzman has a commercial aerial photography business and has shot the Rose Bowl from above since 2009.

How does it happen? (hat tip to Joe Pompilano):

A few weeks before the game, Mark obtains approval from various agencies, including Air Traffic Control and Pasadena Air Operations.

Those agencies set a pre-approved altitude limit that leaves sufficient vertical space between Mark and the B-2. This year, he operated at 4,500 feet, about 2,500 feet above the B-2.

Mark flies his personal Cessna 206 to the Rose Bowl and then has a copilot take over while he takes the photographs.

The Cessna does left orbits around the stadium, rotated sideways to allow the camera to look directly down. Timing is crucial.

Mark has less than two seconds to get the photo. The B-2 flies at 250 knots (287 mph).

Mark talks with the flyover pilots in advance. He is in constant contact with Air Traffic Control, but also has a discrete radio channel during flight to talk to the pilots and police on the ground.

Like baseball? Mark does other flyover shots as well. How about this one from the first game of the 2004 World Series above Dodger Stadium? The Navy did the flyover with three F18s and one F16 aggressor.

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Red Rider for the big ONT finish:

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1 Yay, National Fresh Squeezed Juice Day ONT!

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at January 15, 2025 09:55 PM (lUFok)

2 Good evening, TRex and horde.

Posted by: Scarymary at January 15, 2025 09:56 PM (whIlM)

3 Evenin'

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 15, 2025 09:58 PM (x9Cue)

4 4th!

Posted by: LASue at January 15, 2025 09:58 PM (lCppi)

5 Look at the Laeroplane up in the sky. Pink Floyd forever. Irreplacable Genius.

Posted by: Admiral Spinebender at January 15, 2025 09:59 PM (hftn9)

6 Nth

Posted by: M. Gaga at January 15, 2025 09:59 PM (KiBMU)

7 2 Good evening, TRex and horde.

Posted by: Scarymary at January 15, 2025 09:56 PM
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Well NOODed!

Posted by: TRex at January 15, 2025 10:00 PM (IQ6Gq)

8 Passing through

Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at January 15, 2025 10:03 PM (w3u3d)

9 Project Oxcart

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2025 10:03 PM (82lyg)

10 For this one, the afterburners are lit and we are in high altitude stealth mode for minimum detection.
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Wouldn't a balloon be cheaper? Maybe a drone swarm?

Posted by: Xi at January 15, 2025 10:04 PM (XeU6L)

11 Rockwell's one hit.

Best paired with The Police's "Every Breath You Take."

Posted by: mikeski at January 15, 2025 10:04 PM (DgGvY)

12 It took two Chevy V-8s tied together to act as the start cart for a Blackbird.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2025 10:05 PM (82lyg)

13 Nice models up top. They are similar to the models my youngest tests at the hypersonic 'wind' tunnel lab that employs him. He tried to explain what he does there but about 10 secs in it went right over my head.

He did say that for very, very, very short periods of time, some of the models are subjected to Mach 30. That's three zero.

Not bad for a kid that damn near flunked out of HS math. We learned much later that he could do it all but he was simply bored stupid and said F I.

Found his calling while serving in the Navy working with SM-3s and SM-6s.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 15, 2025 10:05 PM (WXNFJ)

14 Starship tomorrow then?

Posted by: gKWVE at January 15, 2025 10:05 PM (gKWVE)

15 Eight hours of workshops at college today. Why am I still awake?

Posted by: Dr. T at January 15, 2025 10:05 PM (lHPJf)

16 Thanks for the dandy ONT, TRex!

That Blackbird is one fine looking and performing aircraft. Glad it's on our side!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at January 15, 2025 10:05 PM (rxCpr)

17 Going to bed sober soon.

Posted by: Stateless at January 15, 2025 10:06 PM (jvJvP)

18 Greetings Everyone!

Happy Hump Day

Thank you TRex for excellent content!

Retreating into mostly lurking for the rest of the evening.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 15, 2025 10:07 PM (QGaXH)

19 Is that it?

😁

Howdy, doods and doodettes. I would have been here sooner but I wasn't. Excuse #37.

Posted by: mindful webworker - gripe gripe gripe at January 15, 2025 10:07 PM (RhFgK)

20 Doggy Zone! So cute, TRex. Also, the flight photography is incredible.

Posted by: Piper at January 15, 2025 10:07 PM (pZEOD)

21 And thanks for the ONT.

I like the pics.

Posted by: Stateless at January 15, 2025 10:07 PM (jvJvP)

22 Related to the SR-71... sort of.

U2 photos. The photographer was granted some pretty cool access. Also gets some shit for the processing of the photos. Worth a read, and look. From Sept. 2023.

Goes to The War Zone website.

https://tinyurl.com/yrz46hap

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 15, 2025 10:07 PM (Q4IgG)

23 Greetings horde

Go Wild!

Posted by: Zeera The people are coming at January 15, 2025 10:08 PM (5sYbz)

24 You have likely heard the Blackbird "speed check" story, but have you heard it told by Major Bryan Shul of Sled Driver frame?

I HAVE!!!!!

My company had an engineering conference that I got sent to and MAJ Shul was hired as a guest dinner speaker on the 2nd night. Guy was funny.

Posted by: BifBewalski at January 15, 2025 10:08 PM (MsrgL)

25 The Air and Space Museum in Seattle, at Boeing Field, has an M-21 version with a D-21 drone mounted. Very cool.
Good museum, lots of aircraft on static display. Check it out should you ever find yourself there.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, McFailure wing of the Uniparty at January 15, 2025 10:08 PM (fXiVm)

26 13 Nice models up top. They are similar to the models my youngest tests at the hypersonic 'wind' tunnel lab that employs him. He tried to explain what he does there but about 10 secs in it went right over my head.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 15, 2025 10:05 PM
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Cool story. Some people can "see air." I bet your youngest can do that. Glad he found his niche.

Posted by: TRex at January 15, 2025 10:08 PM (IQ6Gq)

27 Some big pairs on those birds.

Posted by: davidt at January 15, 2025 10:08 PM (i0F8b)

28 That speed check story is great... the guy is a good story teller.

I do wonder how much trouble they got in for talking about their speed--wasn't that a secret?

Posted by: SimoHayha at January 15, 2025 10:09 PM (yf7Pm)

29 *Consults Paul Crickmore's book*

Sorry, it is Buick V-8s in the start cart.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2025 10:09 PM (82lyg)

30 Lol, Biden was warning about an oligarchy ala Ike. As if he wasn't the perfect tool of that very oligarchy.

Posted by: Earl Parks at January 15, 2025 10:09 PM (7ik3U)

31 It took two Chevy V-8s tied together to act as the start cart for a Blackbird.
Posted by: Anna Puma
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Originally Buick 401's, later 454 Chevys.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 15, 2025 10:09 PM (XeU6L)

32 Skunkworks.

If you work in a place called the Skunkworks, your badass credentials are presumed.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 15, 2025 10:09 PM (JkO4W)

33 I don't know who's tracking this and who cares, but Jordan Peterson has publicly declared belief that Jesus is God.

https://youtu.be/jjSExvxkgCQ?t=415

Posted by: Axeman at January 15, 2025 10:10 PM (krQz2)

34 16 Thanks for the dandy ONT, TRex!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at January 15, 2025 10:05 PM
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{{Respectful and dignified nod in your direction}}

Posted by: TRex at January 15, 2025 10:10 PM (IQ6Gq)

35 Anna, I was up at Beale a few times TDY and saw the startup shenanigans. The power cart/compressor had 2 Buick engines (nail heads) on the one example I witnessed.

Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at January 15, 2025 10:10 PM (ha1wR)

36 Had a Neighbor growing up, who had flown SR-71s... story was he cracked one up... had one leg shorter than the other and could no longer fly, so was on Staff at the SAC base I grew up next to.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 15, 2025 10:10 PM (QAkQ3)

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Somebody likes their flying machines....😃
Good evening TRex and Horde!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at January 15, 2025 10:10 PM (rbizP)

38 Fun mystery click with an amazing performance by one man.

Posted by: L - When will we hit rock bottom? at January 15, 2025 10:11 PM (NFX2v)

39 Thanks TRex! Go snack on a triceratops or something and enjoy the evening!

Posted by: SimoHayha at January 15, 2025 10:11 PM (yf7Pm)

40 I had two friends who flew the SR-71. I miss them.

Posted by: nraendowment at January 15, 2025 10:11 PM (1L7Mh)

41 It took two Chevy V-8s tied together to act as the start cart for a Blackbird.
Posted by: Anna Puma
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Originally Buick 401's, later 454 Chevys.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

There is one of the original starter carts at the Mobile, AL battleship museum. I think I rememner the lable on the display fence keepi g us away from it was that this one was a set of Pontiac big block 400s or 454s. The exhaust was just a set of 12" straight pipes.

Posted by: BifBewalski at January 15, 2025 10:12 PM (MsrgL)

42 I don't know who's tracking this and who cares, but Jordan Peterson has publicly declared belief that Jesus is God.

https://youtu.be/jjSExvxkgCQ?t=415
Posted by: Axeman at January 15, 2025 10:10 PM (krQz2)

Excellent.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 15, 2025 10:13 PM (lHPJf)

43 I never get tired of those stories about and SR-71 getting a visit from Russian fighters who were pushing it with their elevation, and the SR-71 pilot giving them an official, "SEE YAH."

Posted by: Orson at January 15, 2025 10:13 PM (dIske)

44 42 I don't know who's tracking this and who cares, but Jordan Peterson has publicly declared belief that Jesus is God.

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Glad we got that settled.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 15, 2025 10:14 PM (JkO4W)

45 {{Respectful and dignified nod in your direction}}

Posted by: TRex at January 15, 2025 10:10 PM (IQ6Gq)

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{{And a fine good evening to you, sir!}}

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at January 15, 2025 10:15 PM (rxCpr)

46 My sole no-shit story about SRs. My squadron commander at Edwards, c.1980, had been an RSO during the SR flight test. One night (and as far as I know all the) sortie they experienced an aircraft problem and slightly overflew their window. They landed on the main runway with the tower closed and a metro at the far end with headlights on. Some enterprising tower supervisor decided to go to work early and got scared with an unannounced aircraft landing. He blew the crash alarms. That would be the morning of the day that Johnson announced the existence of the plane.

Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at January 15, 2025 10:15 PM (ha1wR)

47 TRex, i have a hobby question. When is your next hobby thread gonna be?

Posted by: BifBewalski at January 15, 2025 10:16 PM (MsrgL)

48 Outstanding ONT, TRex.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 15, 2025 10:16 PM (mH6SG)

49 TRex was 5 minutes early with the ONT tonight. I am writing a kindly letter to management.

Posted by: Scarymary at January 15, 2025 10:17 PM (whIlM)

50 Search crews confirmed Friday they found a test model of the Avro Arrow on the floor of Lake Ontario.

The OEX Recovery Group announced their discovery at a news conference. OEX began its quest in July and had been using a small submersible to conduct its search in the waters of Lake Ontario.

“We are very pleased and tremendously proud to announce we have discovered the first example of one of the free-flight Arrow models,” John Burzynski, Raise the Arrow expedition leader and CEO of Osisko Mining said in a statement. “We hope to have other discoveries as we continue the program and are now working on planning a recovery of this first Arrow model.”

Article content
The sonar images were captured using a sonar from a Newfoundland/Labrador firm, Kraken. The sonar was on board a Kraken Autonomous Underwater Vehicle.

The model is around three metres long and two metres wide.
https://tinyurl.com/3e4x6scc

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 15, 2025 10:17 PM (5LoD7)

51 47 TRex, i have a hobby question. When is your next hobby thread gonna be?

Posted by: BifBewalski at January 15, 2025 10:16 PM
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Saturday. Look forward to seeing you there. The mailbox is open if you have anything to ask or submit in advance.

Posted by: TRex at January 15, 2025 10:17 PM (IQ6Gq)

52 48 Outstanding ONT, TRex.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 15, 2025 10:16 PM
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Good evening Major Deal!

Posted by: TRex at January 15, 2025 10:18 PM (IQ6Gq)

53 47 TRex, i have a hobby question. When is your next hobby thread gonna be?
Posted by: BifBewalski at January 15, 2025 10:16 PM (MsrgL)

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According to the IRS, if you masturbate and lose money on it for five years running, it's a hobby.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 15, 2025 10:18 PM (JkO4W)

54 TRex was 5 minutes early with the ONT tonight. I am writing a kindly letter to management.
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A kindly letter of complaint or one encouraging early postings?

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at January 15, 2025 10:19 PM (IQ6Gq)

55 Good evening Major Deal!
Posted by: TRex at January 15, 2025 10:18 PM

And a good evening to you, General Rex! *salutes*

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 15, 2025 10:19 PM (mH6SG)

56 Lunatic Fringe. Got two interesting stories on that one...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at January 15, 2025 10:20 PM (bA75n)

57 TRex, i have a hobby question. When is your next hobby thread gonna be?
Posted by: BifBewalski

According to the IRS, if you masturbate and lose money on it for five years running, it's a hobby.
Posted by: Cicero

Now I have questions, but I really don't want the answers.

Posted by: mikeski at January 15, 2025 10:20 PM (DgGvY)

58 54 TRex was 5 minutes early with the ONT tonight. I am writing a kindly letter to management.
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A kindly letter of complaint or one encouraging early postings?

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at January 15, 2025 10:19 PM (IQ6Gq)

A kind letter of encouragement of course!

Posted by: Scarymary at January 15, 2025 10:20 PM (whIlM)

59 55 And a good evening to you, General Rex! *salutes*

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 15, 2025 10:19 PM
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I would return the salute but...well...with short arms and all...

Posted by: TRex at January 15, 2025 10:21 PM (IQ6Gq)

60 56 Lunatic Fringe. Got two interesting stories on that one...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at January 15, 2025 10:20 PM (bA75n)

Tell me more, tell me more.

Posted by: The Cast of Grease at January 15, 2025 10:21 PM (whIlM)

61 I've seen the SR-71 at the March Field Museum in Riverside recently. It's not outdoors anymore, but occupies a large portion of an indoor display building. If you're in that area, the museum is a must-see.

Posted by: MartynWW at January 15, 2025 10:22 PM (+W6G0)

62 Excellent reading and links, TRex. I've seen a couple of the SR-71's and a U-2. Both impressive and their stories are great.

Posted by: scampydog at January 15, 2025 10:22 PM (41CYW)

63 When the Soviets were having their big military May Day parade in Red Square we (I think it was Reagan) would do a fly over straight down Parade Street. People on the ground didn't see it but radar did. Couldn'tDoNothin'

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 15, 2025 10:23 PM (KV6ve)

64 I would return the salute but...well...with short arms and all...
Posted by: TRex

The judges will accept a toothy smile.

.....if they know what's good for them.

Posted by: mikeski at January 15, 2025 10:23 PM (DgGvY)

65 37 Somebody likes their flying machines....😃
Good evening TRex and Horde!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at January 15, 2025 10:10 PM
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Good evening COMM! Good to see you here. Happy Wednesday to you.

Posted by: TRex at January 15, 2025 10:23 PM (IQ6Gq)

66 Evergreen Air and Space Museum in McMinnville, Oregon has an SR-71 parked under the wing of the Spruce Goose.

Posted by: PabloD at January 15, 2025 10:24 PM (zD6D1)

67 Not bad for a kid that damn near flunked out of HS math. We learned much later that he could do it all but he was simply bored stupid and said F I.

Found his calling while serving in the Navy working with SM-3s and SM-6s.
Posted by: Tonypete
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Great story, Tonypete. Cool he ended up with something he enjoys.

Posted by: scampydog at January 15, 2025 10:25 PM (41CYW)

68 Lunatic FRINGE

Essentially Describes the Ruling Political Body in L.A, San Fran Sicko, and Excremento...

With exception to the RED counties across the state that continue to hold their own and push back against Nancy's little bitch.

A course change is in the wind... yes indeed.

Posted by: Nightwatch at January 15, 2025 10:25 PM (pggNd)

69 62 Excellent reading and links, TRex.

Posted by: scampydog at January 15, 2025 10:22 PM
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You're welcome Mr. Dog. Woof woof.

Posted by: TRex at January 15, 2025 10:26 PM (IQ6Gq)

70 I have seen the SR-71 (an 'A' model iirc) at the National Museum of the USAF at Dayton.

That is a Museum everyone should visit at least once. And it's free!

Posted by: Tonypete at January 15, 2025 10:26 PM (WXNFJ)

71 Red Rider, As Far as Siam, wore that cassette out as a yute.

Posted by: scampydog at January 15, 2025 10:27 PM (41CYW)

72 TRex, i have a hobby question. When is your next hobby thread gonna be?
Posted by: BifBewalski
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Saturday. Look forward to seeing you there. The mailbox is open if you have anything to ask or submit in advance.
Posted by: TRex

You have mail!!!!

Posted by: BifBewalski at January 15, 2025 10:28 PM (MsrgL)

73 A course change is in the wind... yes indeed.
Posted by: Nightwatch at January 15, 2025 10:25 PM (pggNd)

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In terms of square miles, CA is overwhelmingly red. If those urban coastal areas could be flipped, it will be a sea change in national politics.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 15, 2025 10:28 PM (JkO4W)

74 In God we trust, in all others we verify.

Wing motto for Pooky's wing, which did a LOT out of Kadena. The "After-school Spy On The Americans Club" must've peed their pants seeing that sled take to the sky.

Posted by: pookysgirl, juggling a cat and baby once again at January 15, 2025 10:29 PM (dtlDP)

75 I don't know who's tracking this and who cares, but Jordan Peterson has publicly declared belief that Jesus is God.

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Glad we got that settled.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 15, 2025 10:14 PM (JkO4W)

It is evidence of the continuing power of Christianity and why it remains the best organizing principle for the best civilizations ever established.

Posted by: Earl Parks at January 15, 2025 10:29 PM (7ik3U)

76 Saw a clever picture today on a tire cover. It showed a Sasquatch walking through the woods leading a TRex by the leash. Only in Utah...

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at January 15, 2025 10:30 PM (rxCpr)

77 If those urban coastal areas could be flipped, it will be a sea change in national politics.
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That's a mighty big IF.....

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at January 15, 2025 10:30 PM (IQ6Gq)

78 The Air Force Museum has the only surviving shark fin B-17, a B-17D that survived the Philippines, escaped to Australia, and finally to the Panama Canal Zone. The plane is called "The Swoose."

Though IIRC there is someone who is trying to build his own shark fin B-17.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2025 10:30 PM (82lyg)

79 BBC News (World) @BBCWorld Jan 13
Naked ash-smeared ascetics to lead India bathing spectacle

Abhijit Iyer-Mitra @Iyervval 10h [pro-Israeli, pro-Trump Indian atheist]
Imagine a bunch of people who don’t wash their arse, and leave large brown stains on sofas, writing this headline.
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All ready for an Art Thread!!

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 15, 2025 10:30 PM (5LoD7)

80 As a C-130 pilot on rotation at Mildenhall AB, Suffolk, England, UK, in the early 1980s, I saw a few SR-71 takeoffs while sitting No. 1 to take the runway. Wooo! Boy! were those effing spectacular. On one of them the runway was wet 'cause you know it rains a lot in Ol Blighty. Anyway, the SR-71 kicks up so much spray that all you see is the blue flame of the afterburners till it became airborne. On another occasion when the sky was clear, watched one takeoff and make a 270 degree turn over the airfield; the '71 was 10,000 feet or more when it crossed back over the runway.

And yes, the Blackbird leaks fuel when it is "cold". When they taxied out of the hanger they were a dripping.

Posted by: BillB at January 15, 2025 10:31 PM (TQxb9)

81 The Spruce Swoose?? The Swoose Moose??

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 15, 2025 10:31 PM (5LoD7)

82 Because the J-58 makes ever more power with every knot of speed, the plane is in fact, capable of flying itself to pieces.

I've no idea if it's the molten leading aerodynamic edges or the engine internals that'd give up first. But somewhere north of sustained Mach ?, that puppy's gonna blow.

Can you imagine the design though, with Space Shuttle ceramic tech in the high stress areas?

It would go moar fasterer!

*pours bourbon* ONT Greetings, Horde. CHEERS!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 15, 2025 10:32 PM (Xo+UM)

83 Lunatic Fringe Story 1:

Tom Cochran wrote the song after becoming concerned about the rise of Antisemitism. After putting the finishing touches on the song's demo, he stepped outside and saw a newsstand displaying a NY Post headline announcing the shooting death of John Lennon.

Posted by: Joe Kidd at January 15, 2025 10:32 PM (bA75n)

84 How often does the consumer price index match the Fed interest rates?

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 15, 2025 10:32 PM (lhenN)

85 76 Saw a clever picture today on a tire cover. It showed a Sasquatch walking through the woods leading a TRex by the leash. Only in Utah...

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at January 15, 2025 10:30 PM
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Must be my brother, Larry. He and the Sasquatch take turns leading each other around in the forest. I don't get it either, but it sure confuses the tourists.

Posted by: TRex at January 15, 2025 10:32 PM (IQ6Gq)

86 33 I don't know who's tracking this and who cares, but Jordan Peterson has publicly declared belief that Jesus is God.

https://youtu.be/jjSExvxkgCQ?t=415
Posted by: Axeman at January 15, 2025 10:10 PM (krQz2

There seems to be a lot of that going around -- Milo (seems insincere), Russell Brand, uh, ... I can't recall others who have professed faith in recent years, but I somehow have the impression that there's been a surge.

Posted by: Emmie at January 15, 2025 10:32 PM (Sf2cq)

87 A cold SR-71 hitting the KC-135Q will seep fuel even as it is being pumped in. In photos you will these shiny streaks going aft on the fuselage from where the fuel is leaking out.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2025 10:33 PM (82lyg)

88 Thanks for the SR-71 and sister design stuff, TRex!

If anyone is wondering why the YF-12 has a much different nose than the other two, it is designed to enclose the big dish of an aircraft tracking and intercept missile firing solution radar.

Posted by: Gref at January 15, 2025 10:34 PM (aBgBM)

89 Airplane query for Anna Puma.

Waay back when, the Snitsonian disassembled and carted away the B-36 that was in San Antonio. Do you know what they did with it, or what the long range plan is for it?

Posted by: BifBewalski at January 15, 2025 10:34 PM (MsrgL)

90 76 Saw a clever picture today on a tire cover. It showed a Sasquatch walking through the woods leading a TRex by the leash. Only in Utah...
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at January 15, 2025 10:30 PM (rxCpr)

In Buffalo, Wy, there's a Sinclair station with the dino out front being led on a leash by a Sasquatch....

I think it was buffalo......

Back to lurking...

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 15, 2025 10:34 PM (QGaXH)

91 Evenin’ Again, Y’all.

WWI biplanes and triplanes were more aesthetically pleasing than any of the stuff since.

Posted by: Bulg at January 15, 2025 10:34 PM (77rzZ)

92 Didn't the SR grow slightly in length during sustained supersonic flight?

Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at January 15, 2025 10:35 PM (ha1wR)

93 82 *pours bourbon* ONT Greetings, Horde. CHEERS!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 15, 2025 10:32 PM
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Jim! {Raises virtual glass and tilts in your direction} Cheers!

Posted by: TRex at January 15, 2025 10:35 PM (IQ6Gq)

94 >33 I don't know who's tracking this and who cares, but Jordan Peterson has publicly declared belief that Jesus is God.

I'm glad to read that. He has a lot of influence with people, especially young men. Off to watch the video.

Posted by: Scarymary at January 15, 2025 10:35 PM (whIlM)

95 A B-36? So that's how they paid for Udvar-Harzy, they recycled the B-36.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2025 10:35 PM (82lyg)

96 The Paolo he also, how you say, trust in the thrust!

Posted by: The Paolo at January 15, 2025 10:36 PM (ybSPO)

97 NOT an Arrakis training film...

Wonder of Science @wonderofscience 13h
This is what happens when you wring out a wet towel while floating in space.
📽: CSA/NASA

https://tinyurl.com/bdfjvmm3
30 seconds

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 15, 2025 10:36 PM (5LoD7)

98 88 Thanks for the SR-71 and sister design stuff, TRex!

If anyone is wondering why the YF-12 has a much different nose than the other two, it is designed to enclose the big dish of an aircraft tracking and intercept missile firing solution radar.

Posted by: Gref at January 15, 2025 10:34 PM
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Gref knows stuff. Good evening, Sir.

Posted by: TRex at January 15, 2025 10:36 PM (IQ6Gq)

99 Good evening morons y gracias TRex

Great musical selections tonight!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 15, 2025 10:36 PM (RIvkX)

100 92 Didn't the SR grow slightly in length during sustained supersonic flight?
Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at January 15, 2025 10:35 PM (ha1wR)

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Go on...

Posted by: Mayor Pete at January 15, 2025 10:36 PM (JkO4W)

101 82

{{{JIM}}} ya old cuss, nice to see ya back out and about.

Is it still White Tail Season in your neck of the woods?

Posted by: Nightwatch at January 15, 2025 10:37 PM (pggNd)

102 Where are the Warp engines??

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 15, 2025 10:37 PM (RIvkX)

103 The prototype YF-12 after cancellation of the F-12 program was taken out of storage and mated to the forward fuselage of the static test frame. It became a two-seat trainer and the only SR-71C.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2025 10:37 PM (82lyg)

104 Pookysgirl's Top 5 Favorite Aircraft:

1. Pooky's plane (obligatory)
2. A-10

The F-22, the B-52, and the SR-71 get to fight it out for spots #3, 4, and 5.

Posted by: pookysgirl misses those days at January 15, 2025 10:38 PM (dtlDP)

105 91 Evenin’ Again, Y’all.

Posted by: Bulg at January 15, 2025 10:34 PM
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Bulg!

Posted by: TRex at January 15, 2025 10:38 PM (IQ6Gq)

106 Lincoln was a deist maybe, but he knew that Christianity was central to the American origin story.

Posted by: Earl Parks at January 15, 2025 10:39 PM (7ik3U)

107 In other Nike Hercules Air Defense history, we could ocasionally see an East bound very high altitude 'unknown' track that would skip across the radar scope. We assumed it was an sr-71, as NATO had nothing that could fly that profile. This was my unit near the Fulda Gap. If it were flying West, we would have declared it hostile and nuked it.

Years later, my Patriot unit was near Tonapah, NV and we saw the same behavior, but the skips across the scope weren't as large. Very high altitude, VERY fast.

Posted by: BifBewalski at January 15, 2025 10:40 PM (MsrgL)

108 81 The Spruce Swoose?? The Swoose Moose??

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 15, 2025 10:31 PM
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Very disappointed. Nobody - not one of you - responded with anything about your sister being bitten by a Moose?!! Do better.

Posted by: TRex at January 15, 2025 10:41 PM (IQ6Gq)

109 Lincoln was a deist maybe, but he knew that Christianity was central to the American origin story.
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I don't know about Lincoln, but Jefferson was definitely a deist.

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at January 15, 2025 10:41 PM (IQ6Gq)

110 The Russians spent an awful lot of money on the MiG-25 'Foxbat' in an attempt to thwart the SR-71.

Part of the game during the cold war. Make the other guy spend a crapload of money to deter something you've already got. The MiG-25 also spurred refinements on the fledgling F-15 'Eagle' fighter at the time.

We're still doing it (poorly) with China now.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 15, 2025 10:41 PM (Q4IgG)

111 A B-36? So that's how they paid for Udvar-Harzy, they recycled the B-36.

Posted by: Anna Puma

I sure hope that isn't what they did with it.

Posted by: BifBewalski at January 15, 2025 10:42 PM (MsrgL)

112 In Buffalo, Wy, there's a Sinclair station with the dino out front being led on a leash by a Sasquatch....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 15, 2025 10:34 PM (QGaXH)

* * * *
That's hilarious!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at January 15, 2025 10:42 PM (rxCpr)

113 This is what happens when you wring out a wet towel while floating in space.
📽: CSA/NASA
https://tinyurl.com/bdfjvmm3
30 seconds
Posted by: andycanuck

I hope all that naked wiring behind him is waterproof.

Posted by: mikeski at January 15, 2025 10:42 PM (DgGvY)

114 >Didn't the SR grow slightly in length during sustained supersonic flight?

The parts expand as they heat up.

Peterson was like Indiana Jones in the first movie. Emphatically refraining from saying God existed, but his actions were that of a devout believer.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 15, 2025 10:42 PM (lhenN)

115 Very disappointed. Nobody - not one of you - responded with anything about your sister being bitten by a Moose?!! Do better.
Posted by: TRex at January 15, 2025 10:41 PM (IQ6Gq)

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Had you listened to what the moose out front would have told you, you would not have been disappointed.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 15, 2025 10:42 PM (JkO4W)

116 Seen a few Blackbirds (cause I don't know all the variants I've seen) mostly Udvar Hazy and that museum out in Seattle.

I did some work at Beale AFB and saw basically a sky full of U2s.

Posted by: blaster at January 15, 2025 10:43 PM (QfvaV)

117 73

We only have to kill Ballot Harvesting (Democrap construct) and their love affair with mail in ballots and bring back voter I.D's and they will lose every time.

You can bet that some Federal Mandates will be coming forth after Jan. 20th.

Time to bring the PAIN!!!

Posted by: Nightwatch at January 15, 2025 10:43 PM (pggNd)

118 107 Years later, my Patriot unit was near Tonapah, NV and we saw the same behavior, but the skips across the scope weren't as large. Very high altitude, VERY fast.

Posted by: BifBewalski at January 15, 2025 10:40 PM
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Aurora

Posted by: TRex at January 15, 2025 10:43 PM (IQ6Gq)

119 It is evidence of the continuing power of Christianity and why it remains the best organizing principle for the best civilizations ever established.

Posted by: Earl Parks at January 15, 2025 10:29 PM (7ik3U)
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Indeed. No policy or government program nor agenda nor "good idea" saved Trump's life.

It was God.

No Republicans manipulated anything to illustrate the dangerous incompetency in California, nature took the course left open by ideological incompetence.

God reveals what he wills.

Posted by: Axeman at January 15, 2025 10:43 PM (krQz2)

120 Jefferson did The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth. He left out all the supernatural stuff that he could not grok.

Posted by: Scarymary at January 15, 2025 10:43 PM (whIlM)

121 >Lincoln was a deist maybe, but he knew that Christianity was central to the American origin story.

You don't get as far as he did, killing vampires, without seeing a few things.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 15, 2025 10:44 PM (lhenN)

122 Wonder of Science @wonderofscience 13h
This is what happens when you wring out a wet towel while floating in space
https://tinyurl.com/bdfjvmm3
30 seconds
Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 15, 2025 10:36 PM (5LoD7)

Cool, but I was hoping they would do it outside in vacuum. I would think there would be an enormous puff of vapor.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at January 15, 2025 10:44 PM (oCQp3)

123 That speed check video is extracted from an hour plus talk at Lawrence Livermore. There are many worse ways to spend 70 minutes of your time than to listen to his entire talk. Amazing stuff.

Brian Shul Lawrence Livermore should bring it right up.

Posted by: Fritz (not Fritz) at January 15, 2025 10:44 PM (UHLZS)

124 *gives to Bulg the complete plans for a Royal Aircraft Factory FE-2B*

Have fun

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2025 10:45 PM (82lyg)

125 I've only seen the one at Udvar-Hazy, it's pretty cool but not as cool as the F-14 that I actually worked on while in the Navy.

I recently read Skunk Works by Ben R. Rich. It's a fascinating look at Lockheed while the SR-71 was being designed.

Posted by: Abzod at January 15, 2025 10:45 PM (0X8xl)

126 Lincoln was a deist maybe, but he knew that Christianity was central to the American origin story.
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I don't know about Lincoln, but Jefferson was definitely a deist.
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at January 15, 2025 10:41 PM (IQ6Gq)
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But in many cases, "deist" meant limited theism.

Not just a "clockmaker", God could be "Providence" "The Divine Judge" and other theistic roles.

Posted by: Axeman at January 15, 2025 10:46 PM (krQz2)

127 Lunatic Fringe Story 2:

Had an hour to kill before heading to Tampa airport. This would be circa 1993. Sipping beer at a particular venue and watching a particular cutie working the crowd. Her "finale" was Lunatic Fringe. I've never seen pole work before or since. Stunning. Her name was April...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at January 15, 2025 10:46 PM (bA75n)

128 Pookysgirl's Top 5 Favorite Aircraft:
1. Pooky's plane (obligatory)
2. A-10
The F-22, the B-52, and the SR-71 get to fight it out for spots #3, 4, and 5.
Posted by: pookysgirl misses those days

Good choices. The A-10 and SR-71 are complete opposites.

"Are we sure this thing should fly this fast?"

"Are we sure this thing will fly fast enough to stay airborne with the recoil from that gun?"

Posted by: mikeski at January 15, 2025 10:46 PM (DgGvY)

129 Evergreen Air Museum in McMinnville OR has an SR-71, it is tucked under the wing of the Spruce Goose

Posted by: Kindltot at January 15, 2025 10:46 PM (D7oie)

130 I hope all that naked wiring behind him is waterproof.
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That's why they can't get home!

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 15, 2025 10:47 PM (5LoD7)

131 50 Search crews confirmed Friday they found a test model of the Avro Arrow on the floor of Lake Ontario.

The OEX Recovery Group announced their discovery at a news conference. OEX began its quest in July and had been using a small submersible to conduct its search in the waters of Lake Ontario.

The model is around three metres long and two metres wide.
https://tinyurl.com/3e4x6scc

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 15, 2025 10:17 PM (5LoD7)

As the article says, these models are all that survives from the Avro Canada CF-105 Arrow interceptor program. When the program was canceled in about 1960, the Canadian government ordered complete scrapping of all the test aircraft that had been built and all of the production tooling. The CF-105 was a beast of an aircraft; would have been better than any interceptor the USAF had at the time, F-100, F-101, F-102, F-104, and the F-106. I don't know how the CF-105 and the F-4 Phantom II would have matched-up as interceptors.

Posted by: Gref at January 15, 2025 10:47 PM (aBgBM)

132 If it wasn't for the Douglas SBD-3 Dauntless at Midway and the North American P-51B in 1944, where would we be right now?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2025 10:47 PM (82lyg)

133

Greencastle, IN has a V-1

https://t.ly/wXBMP

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 15, 2025 10:48 PM (63Dwl)

134 When I worked at Boeing, there were a few former 71 drivers there. The stories were real. Funny. Amazing.
And the classified stuff was incredible.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 15, 2025 10:48 PM (W/lyH)

135 Thomas Jefferson, himself, on the subject of slavery said "I tremble to think that God is just."

But it is curious that of all the writings and speeches of the founder, Jefferson's first inaugural address comes the closest to Biblical reference when he names "The God of Israel".

So, I translate 18th/19th century "deism" as theism-lite.

Posted by: Axeman at January 15, 2025 10:48 PM (krQz2)

136 I’ve seen a F-117 in flight when I was on a business trip to El Paso and waiting at the airport. At the time it was the coolest thing ever for me. That was 1994 . It had been already operational a decade prior. I was late to the party but it was still cool. I figured it came from White Sands and was testing some missiles. I think they were based in San Antonio though.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 15, 2025 10:49 PM (D6PGr)

137 Canada cancelling the CF-105 was a real disaster. And many Canadian aeronautical designers went to work for US companies.

Talk about a brain drain.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2025 10:49 PM (82lyg)

138 Good evening, TRex! Thanks for doing some ONTs. I'm checking out for tonight- bye, all.

Posted by: Gref at January 15, 2025 10:50 PM (aBgBM)

139 >Lincoln was a deist maybe, but he knew that Christianity was central to the American origin story.

You don't get as far as he did, killing vampires, without seeing a few things.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 15, 2025 10:44 PM (lhenN)
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Oh, Man. I usually like to get the vampire references in.

Posted by: Axeman at January 15, 2025 10:50 PM (krQz2)

140 2 If it wasn't for the Douglas SBD-3 Dauntless at Midway and the North American P-51B in 1944, where would we be right now?
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2025 10:47 PM (82lyg

But the Lockheed P 38 shot down Yamamoto.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 15, 2025 10:51 PM (D6PGr)

141 If it wasn't for the Douglas SBD-3 Dauntless at Midway and the North American P-51B in 1944, where would we be right now?
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2025 10:47 PM (82lyg)

"The Man in the High Castle" world?

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at January 15, 2025 10:51 PM (oCQp3)

142 Driving through the desert I saw a shadow fly over me.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 15, 2025 10:51 PM (KV6ve)

143 One of those flew over the baseball all-star game at the Oakland Coliseum around 1988. Very impressive.

Posted by: jwmiii at January 15, 2025 10:52 PM (0g+oJ)

144 Democrates in Commiefornia must be fleeing to their therapists in droves as they realize they voted for clowns and not REAL politicians who could do anything in the form of managing the workings of a major city or a state.

In oldern times, people such as these, would be run out of office and suffer the TAR & FEATHERS or be Ridden out on a RAIL!!! (Funny...Newsome...RAIL...get it??)

Posted by: Nightwatch at January 15, 2025 10:53 PM (pggNd)

145 132 If it wasn't for the Douglas SBD-3 Dauntless at Midway and

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2025 10:47 PM
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The Naval Aviation Museum in Pensacola apparently has the only surviving SBD Dauntless from the Battle of Midway. Hard to believe that only one remains from that battle.

Posted by: TRex at January 15, 2025 10:53 PM (IQ6Gq)

146 Godfuckingdammit. When you assholes blow the margins I can't read shit only phone

Fuck off.

Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at January 15, 2025 10:54 PM (tAfvS)

147 138 Good evening, TRex! Thanks for doing some ONTs. I'm checking out for tonight- bye, all.

Posted by: Gref at January 15, 2025 10:50 PM
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Good night!

Posted by: TRex at January 15, 2025 10:54 PM (IQ6Gq)

148 (looks out window)

Yep. It's the dead of night. Is that blackbird singing?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 15, 2025 10:55 PM (0eaVi)

149 Damn that Johnson and his dyslexia.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 15, 2025 10:56 PM (IG4Id)

150 The Air and Space Museum in Seattle, at Boeing Field, has an M-21 version with a D-21 drone mounted. Very cool.
Good museum, lots of aircraft on static display. Check it out should you ever find yourself there.
Posted by: Winston, GOPe, McFailure wing of the Uniparty at January 15, 2025 10:08 PM (fXiVm)
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They have a YO-3 there as well, which is a very silent spy plane used in VietNam. My brother has over 500 hours in that aircraft.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 15, 2025 10:56 PM (W/lyH)

151 89 Airplane query for Anna Puma.

Waay back when, the Snitsonian disassembled and carted away the B-36 that was in San Antonio. Do you know what they did with it, or what the long range plan is for it?

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There was the XC-99 at Kelly AFB/Kelly Field in San Antonio on the west side of the runway. I saw it there 35 years ago when I went there on AF Reserve duty. It was a one-off cargo plane based on the B-36. That may be what you are thinking of.

There was a B-36 at Greater Southwest Airport in Fort Worth, Texas that was just southwest of the current DFW International Airport. That airplane was disassembled and taken over to a location near JRB Fort Worth (old Carswell AFB).

Posted by: BillB at January 15, 2025 10:57 PM (TQxb9)

152 Here. Who has the attendance sheet tonight?

Posted by: RI Red - will work for table scraps at January 15, 2025 10:58 PM (7W6uC)

153 There was the XC-99 at Kelly AFB/Kelly Field in San Antonio on the west side of the runway. I saw it there 35 years ago when I went there on AF Reserve duty. It was a one-off cargo plane based on the B-36. That may be what you are thinking of.

There was a B-36 at Greater Southwest Airport in Fort Worth, Texas that was just southwest of the current DFW International Airport. That airplane was disassembled and taken over to a location near JRB Fort Worth (old Carswell AFB).

Posted by: BillB

Now I'm gonna have to go to their store front and look at the back issues just to get the one with that story in it so I can satisfy my curiosity.

Posted by: BifBewalski at January 15, 2025 10:59 PM (MsrgL)

154 146

Dear Nurse R...all is well. My team will be there shortly, and they are bringing the vibrating heating pads and some Propofol. Prep will be with those little Vodka bottles and those garlic stuffed olives that you like.

Deep breath until we arrive.

Posted by: Nightwatch at January 15, 2025 10:59 PM (pggNd)

155 I never saw an SR-71 at Mildenhall AB, but I did see one take off at Kadena AB, Japan. Very impressive. A bit faster than the Herc...

Posted by: JML at January 15, 2025 11:00 PM (URqxC)

156 When the program was canceled in about 1960, the Canadian government ordered complete scrapping of all the test aircraft that had been built and all of the production tooling.
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I won't get into it but it is a shame as the British wanted to buy a couple of the already-made test aircraft for high-altitude research [space-related or weather service or similar].

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 15, 2025 11:00 PM (5LoD7)

157 Godfuckingdammit. When you assholes blow the margins I can't read shit only phone

Fuck off.
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at January 15, 2025 10:54 PM (tAfvS)

I have a spare tablet, though it is only wifi and bluetooth capable.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 15, 2025 11:00 PM (D7oie)

158 I think Doof is the taker of the roll.
TRex gets brownie points for posting before 9pm CST, for those of us who are sleepy.

Posted by: Scarymary at January 15, 2025 11:01 PM (whIlM)

159 Evergreen Air Museum in McMinnville OR has an SR-71, it is tucked under the wing of the Spruce Goose
Posted by: Kindltot at January 15, 2025 10:46 PM (D7oie)
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I've driven by there a few times.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 15, 2025 11:01 PM (RIvkX)

160 I can't remember who said it but someone said California people aren't real in some way. They are different somehow.

Posted by: Earl Parks at January 15, 2025 11:01 PM (7ik3U)

161 Anna, have I ever mentioned my Uncle Elmer was at Midway, flying those planes. Good man.

Posted by: From about That Time at January 15, 2025 11:01 PM (U+vhE)

162 I also did some work at Whiteman AFB. That's the home of the B2. B2 is in photos and paintings and models all over the base. In almost every case we have the planar view from above as seen in the photo here - the familiar bat wing shape.

I was near the flight line and I heard jets. I spent a few months living in the flight line at Eglin AFB so I recognize a lot of jets by their sound. This was a different sound. So I looked to see what was taking off. Well, the day was overcast and a bit of mist. And I looked at where the sound was coming from and did not see a plane. It was weird. And then i focused in on it and picked it up - the B2 was taking off away from me, and the "black" didn't look black it looked gray and hard to make out against the sky. And there weren't the key is features of a plane - no tail, wings, fuselage. From edge on, it was very flat and linear with a bulge in the middle. If anything it looked like a flying saucer!

So yes that thing is "low observable" It is hard to see, and it doesn't make you think airplane. And the sound is...different. It's quieter than other planes by a LOT. It has to be a source for many UFO sightings

Posted by: blaster at January 15, 2025 11:02 PM (QfvaV)

163 160

MSM and Democrates misinformed us this way.

Posted by: Nightwatch at January 15, 2025 11:05 PM (pggNd)

164 154 146

Dear Nurse R...all is well. My team will be there shortly, and they are bringing the vibrating heating pads and some Propofol. Prep will be with those little Vodka bottles and those garlic stuffed olives that you like.

Deep breath until we arrive.
Posted by: Nightwatch

YOU PEOPLE NEVER LISTEN. I WANT THE BLUE CHEESE STUFFED OLIVES

Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at January 15, 2025 11:05 PM (GbY9M)

165 Godfuckingdammit. When you assholes blow the margins I can't read shit only phone

Fuck off.
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I think that might be one or more of TRex's photos doing that.

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 15, 2025 11:06 PM (5LoD7)

166 The blue in blue cheese is nature's way of telling you, don't put this stuff in your mouth.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 15, 2025 11:07 PM (JkO4W)

167 0_0 shit....

Posted by: Nightwatch at January 15, 2025 11:07 PM (pggNd)

168 That was *not* a B-36 they'd hauled away from Kelly AFB, in San Antonio, TX.

Rather, the sole extant, experimental cargo variant of the '36 planform.

The XC-99. Used the '36's wings, engine, rudder n' tail.

But with an enormous, double-decked cargo fuselage, instead of the bomber design.

Was a landmark along the road that linked the (then) separate Kelly AFB and Lackland AFB establishments.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 15, 2025 11:07 PM (Xo+UM)

169 Had SR71s land twice at McClellan AFB 1980-83. It was a big deal. Odd thing is I have no memory of them taking off.

Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at January 15, 2025 11:08 PM (WvGHv)

170 I've driven by there a few times.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 15, 2025 11:01 PM (RIvkX)

It is worth the visit.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 15, 2025 11:08 PM (D7oie)

171 Godfuckingdammit. When you assholes blow the margins I can't read shit only phone

Fuck off.

And wishing you a wonderful evening, as well!

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 15, 2025 11:10 PM (mH6SG)

172 No you never mentioned Elmer.

The SBD only exists because it was brought back to the US and used as a trainer where it ditched in Lake Michigan. You will find in the museum in a glass display case the flight log of one Navy pilot who flew that specific Dauntless. They even let him climb back into the cockpit.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2025 11:11 PM (82lyg)

173 It never ceases to amaze me the knowledge and experiences my grey box friends have....thanks so much for sharing....night all....

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at January 15, 2025 11:11 PM (LMo2x)

174 I was a Navy Aviator who spent a lot of time operating out of Kadena AFB Okinawa in the early 1980's and saw many a nighttime takeoff of the SR 71. The noise and flame erupting from those engines were something to see. The pilot and RSO would wear orange flight suits (same as the Coast Guard rescue helo pilots).
We would start drinking at the officers club and send them free drinks with a note thanking them for fishing us out of the water when we ejected. Boy would they get pissed off.

Posted by: daninmichigan at January 15, 2025 11:11 PM (PK6Rr)

175 The B-36 was the Peacemaker, no?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 15, 2025 11:12 PM (JkO4W)

176 Also airplane related!

BNO News Live @BNODesk 12m
Southwest Airlines pilot arrested for DUI at Georgia airport

A Southwest Airlines pilot at Savannah-Hilton Head International Airport in Georgia was removed from his plane and arrested on DUI charges, officials said. The incident caused a significant flight delays.

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 15, 2025 11:12 PM (5LoD7)

177 Saw an SR-71 take off at Offutt once. It was impressive. I've seen one up close at an air show and the Air&Space annex at Dulles. This was quite a few years ago so I don't know if it's still at Dulles or not. If any of you wind up in DC, go out to that Air&Space annex at Dulles. It's worth the trip.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 15, 2025 11:13 PM (sAmhv)

178 Glidden. Flew with Henderson's group. Spent entire war in the Pacific, mostly the Solomons.

Posted by: From about That Time at January 15, 2025 11:13 PM (U+vhE)

179 The pilot and RSO would wear orange flight suits (same as the Coast Guard rescue helo pilots).

We would start drinking at the officers club and send them free drinks with a note thanking them for fishing us out of the water when we ejected. Boy would they get pissed off.
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Great anecdote!

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 15, 2025 11:14 PM (5LoD7)

180 YOU PEOPLE NEVER LISTEN. I WANT THE BLUE CHEESE STUFFED OLIVES
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at January 15, 2025 11:05 PM (GbY9M)

Guys, I got this.

(turns to Nurse)

Caaalllm dooowwwnnn...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at January 15, 2025 11:15 PM (bA75n)

181 Lofton Henderson. Those poor bastiches in the Wind Indicators.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2025 11:15 PM (82lyg)

182 Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump · 3h
As of today, the incoming Trump Administration has hired over 1,000 people for The United States Government. They are outstanding in every way, and you will see the fruits of their labor over the coming years. We will MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, and it will happen very quickly! In order to save time, money, and effort, it would be helpful if you would not send, or recommend to us, people who worked with, or are endorsed by, Americans for No Prosperity (headed by Charles Koch), “Dumb as a Rock” John Bolton, “Birdbrain” Nikki Haley, Mike Pence, disloyal Warmongers Dick Cheney, and his Psycho daughter, Liz, Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan, General(?) Mark Milley, James Mattis, Mark Yesper, or any of the other people suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome, more commonly known as TDS. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 15, 2025 11:17 PM (5LoD7)

183 Write up of VMSB-241

https://pacificwrecks.com/units/usmc/VMSB-241.html

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2025 11:17 PM (82lyg)

184
My mother wanted Melania's book, and I got if from Amazon and it arrived today.

The book was just plopped into a larger box with no packing or stuffing, just letting it bounce all around. It wasn't damaged thank goodness.

I wonder if that is just general Amazon laziness and sloppiness, or perhaps specifically directed sloppiness?

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at January 15, 2025 11:17 PM (w6EFb)

185 168

I have heard rumor that they will try and resurrect a B--36 Peacemaker to full flying glory.

That would be something.

I did get to do a walk through on the B-29 FiFi when it was at an airshow years back. Massive plane that was. Can't even imagine what a B-36 would look like on the inside.

Posted by: Nightwatch at January 15, 2025 11:18 PM (pggNd)

186 A Southwest Airlines pilot at Savannah-Hilton Head International Airport in Georgia was removed from his plane and arrested on DUI charges, officials said. The incident caused a significant flight delays.

He just wanted the passengers to have a 'fluid flight'?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 15, 2025 11:18 PM (mH6SG)

187 My homies.

Whiteman AFB, Knob Noster, MO

Home of the B-2s. Not unusual to see them flying low & slow over the highway. Gets one's attention... fast.

Posted by: mnw at January 15, 2025 11:19 PM (NLIak)

188
Good evening, all.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 15, 2025 11:22 PM (Ro7Og)

189 Caaalllm dooowwwnnn...

Posted by: Joe Kidd

Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at January 15, 2025 11:22 PM (yEK4M)

190 Telling the Guardian to "Bite me!" over spurious Don Jr. claim:

Breaking911 @Breaking911 25m
This is the kind of public relations hire you want. 😂

https://tinyurl.com/mry6vhc5
screencap

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 15, 2025 11:22 PM (5LoD7)

191 Narrator voice

... and that's how the Horde knew that Joe Kidd had never seen Nurse Ratched shooting.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 15, 2025 11:24 PM (NtUSo)

192 I wonder if that is just general Amazon laziness and sloppiness, or perhaps specifically directed sloppiness?
Posted by: publius
-------

My vote is: combo of both.

Half the time, stuff I order is loose in the box. Other times, there may be some (usually insufficient) amount of air-pillow cushion things.

Meh.

Glad the book wasn't damaged!

Posted by: JQ at January 15, 2025 11:24 PM (YoCnN)

193 78 The Air Force Museum has the only surviving shark fin B-17, a B-17D that survived the Philippines, escaped to Australia, and finally to the Panama Canal Zone. The plane is called "The Swoose."

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2025 10:30 PM (82lyg)

That remains nds me, Swoosie Kurtz father flew in bomber supposedly with that name. That's how she got her name. Interesting if that plane would be the same one.

Posted by: Rex B at January 15, 2025 11:24 PM (LS72h)

194 Greg Price @greg_price11 3h
Biden: "I want to warn the country [about] concentrated power in the hands of a few ultra wealthy people."

Last week, he gave our nation's highest civilian honor to George Soros.

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 15, 2025 11:25 PM (5LoD7)

195 190: 'Are you fucking retarded'.

LOL!!

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 15, 2025 11:25 PM (sAmhv)

196 The blue in blue cheese is nature's way of telling you, don't put this stuff in your mouth.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 15, 2025 11:07 PM (JkO4W)

Man, no shit.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 15, 2025 11:25 PM (VwHCD)

197 How many more "farewell addresses" does that senile old azalea get to read? I guess he thinks he's George f'n Washington, instead of a demented old grifter.

Please God, make it stop.

Posted by: mnw at January 15, 2025 11:25 PM (NLIak)

198 @184, Amazon's packaging is ever-changing. I'm not sure how they decide to use a box versus one of their mailers. Often, the mailers would be adequate.

Posted by: Scarymary at January 15, 2025 11:26 PM (whIlM)

199 105. Howdy, TRex!

Posted by: Bulg at January 15, 2025 11:26 PM (77rzZ)

200 Rex B, it is the same plane.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2025 11:26 PM (82lyg)

201 Col Elmer Glidden Jr, veteran of three wars. Two Navy Crosses.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2025 11:27 PM (82lyg)

202
I don't think I've ever got anything loose in the box before. Sloppy and inadequate packing, but never just loose inside.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at January 15, 2025 11:27 PM (w6EFb)

203 Biden is going out the same way he came into politics. With lying and hatred spewing out of his mouth. He's garbage, has always been. The only difference now is his brain is rotted guacamole.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 15, 2025 11:27 PM (sAmhv)

204 The blue in blue cheese is nature's way of telling you, don't put this stuff in your mouth.
Posted by: Cicero

But..... free penicillin!

Posted by: mikeski at January 15, 2025 11:28 PM (DgGvY)

205 I’ve seen and touched the SR-71 on the Intrepid in Manhattan. Possibly the coolest piece of machinery ever made. IIRC Dick Cheney was involved in the decision to shut down the program, only to discover after 9/11 that we really could’ve used an aircraft like that.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 15, 2025 11:28 PM (QZThv)

206 Rex B, it is the same plane.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2025 11:26 PM (82lyg)

Awesome! Thanks for the confirmation

Posted by: Rex B at January 15, 2025 11:28 PM (LS72h)

207 Someone used the Italeri boxing of the 1/48 Accurate Miniatures SBD-5 Dauntless to build Major Glidden's Clunk

https://www.historicalwings.com/?page_id=10737

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2025 11:29 PM (82lyg)

208 Saw a couple of take offs on Okinawa in 1988. The official position of the Air Force was "SR71? No idea what you're talking about". But you could buy postcards of the Habu in the Kadena PX. In 1988 the Air Force still tolerated Marines on Kadena AFB. I've heard that's changed.

Posted by: Stacy0311 at January 15, 2025 11:29 PM (0wtkW)

209 I don't think I've ever got anything loose in the box before. Sloppy and inadequate packing, but never just loose inside.
Posted by: publius

I have. And it was canned food and a jewel-cased CD. The case was just a wee bit cracked. On both sides. And the cans were dented. Amazon got it all back with a kind request to put some of those airbags in it next time.

Which, surprisingly, they did.

Posted by: mikeski at January 15, 2025 11:31 PM (DgGvY)

210
just loose inside.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb)

"I Am Joe Biden's Large Colon"

h/t "Reader's Digest"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 15, 2025 11:31 PM (xG4kz)

211 Dick Cheney; The gift that keeps on giving. Like herpes.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at January 15, 2025 11:32 PM (ZmEVT)

212 >> "I Am Joe Biden's Large Colon"

Heh. Or Sandra Fluke's scamper....

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at January 15, 2025 11:33 PM (w6EFb)

213 189 Caaalllm dooowwwnnn...

Posted by: Joe Kidd

Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at January 15, 2025 11:22 PM (yEK4M)

(looks up from buffing nails..)

Posted by: Joe Kidd at January 15, 2025 11:33 PM (bA75n)

214 YOU PEOPLE NEVER LISTEN. I WANT THE BLUE CHEESE STUFFED OLIVES
Posted by: nurse ratched

You are even cuter when you are steamed. xoxo

Posted by: Tonypete at January 15, 2025 11:33 PM (WXNFJ)

215 Would love to hear Anna's top five warplanes.

Posted by: Earl Parks at January 15, 2025 11:33 PM (7ik3U)

216 In NoHo years back in May the Colling's Foundation had a B-17, B-25 Mitchell, and on one occasion one of 6 flying P-38 lightnings (a lot were built in Burbank Ca.) and flew them out to Bob Hope Airport in Burbank for static displays for the public. Always brought my kids so they could climb in and around these historic aircraft. I have a picture of my then 13-year-old daughter Grace in a waist gunner's position on the B-17 looking most fierce as she clutched the 50 cal machine gun.

Damn....time does fly.

Posted by: Nightwatch at January 15, 2025 11:34 PM (pggNd)

217 Okay. So hate me. I love blue cheese stuffed big green olives. Been a while. They are not cheap.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at January 15, 2025 11:35 PM (ZmEVT)

218
190: 'Are you fucking retarded'.

LOL!!
Posted by: Puddleglum

That was great.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 15, 2025 11:35 PM (63Dwl)

219 The Donald has a talent for hiring hot, competent women.

Posted by: Bulg at January 15, 2025 11:35 PM (77rzZ)

220 Was stationed at RAF Lakenheath in the late 80's, have a few photos of the SR-71 at the RAF Mildenhall airshow. At one point they were doing some runway repairs at Mildenhall so Lakenheath hosted the SR-71 for a few months, got see it take off and land a few times along with a couple U-2's. Friend worked in Trans and had access to the military flight list and saw a KC-135, maybe KC-10(?), to Germany for a Space A flight. He was the only one that showed up and the crew questioned why he picked this flight, no particular reason, he wanted to go to Germany. They let him fly along and they refueled the SR-71. He was pretty happy.

Posted by: MH-53J at January 15, 2025 11:37 PM (7NmRg)

221 Joe Kidd, have you tried, “Calm your tits” yet?
I hear it works well on Nurse R.

Posted by: RI Red - will work for table scraps at January 15, 2025 11:37 PM (7W6uC)

222 The Donald has a talent for hiring hot, competent women.
Posted by: Bulg at January 15, 2025 11:35 PM (77rzZ)

Much better than Biden's deranged, incompetent trannies.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 15, 2025 11:37 PM (8zz6B)

223 X:

Not the t-rex arms!

https://tinyurl.com/453xs8fw

Posted by: RickZ at January 15, 2025 11:37 PM (gKDq2)

224 The Donald has a talent for hiring hot, competent women.
Posted by: Bulg at January 15, 2025 11:35 PM (77rzZ)

Pam Bondi alone is proof of this.

Posted by: Someday I'll choose a nick and stick with it. Cerified dangerous radical. at January 15, 2025 11:38 PM (89Sog)

225
Watching Pam Bondi reminded me that California elected Adam Schiff as senator.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at January 15, 2025 11:39 PM (w6EFb)

226 Much better than Biden's deranged, incompetent trannies.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 15, 2025 11:37 PM (8zz6B)

-----------

I'M RIGHT HERE!

Posted by: Adm. Richard Rachel Levine at January 15, 2025 11:39 PM (JkO4W)

227
I loved that deep fake video Ace posted earlier of Pam saying, "To be honest, senator, your head is as big a fucking watermelon. I mean damn!"

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at January 15, 2025 11:40 PM (w6EFb)

228 And with that, I’m ducking out of here.

Posted by: RI Red - will work for table scraps at January 15, 2025 11:40 PM (7W6uC)

229
Ugghh. Look at the top photo on the Daily Mail's home page. Joe kissing some little girl right on the lips. Is that one of his (great)grandkids?

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at January 15, 2025 11:41 PM (w6EFb)

230 Bleu cheese is great. You can keep the olives though.

Posted by: Ain't easy being bleu or cheesy at January 15, 2025 11:43 PM (ybSPO)

231 I like stuffed green olives-- bleu cheese, garlic, jalapeño... it's all good!

Posted by: JQ at January 15, 2025 11:45 PM (YoCnN)

232 ‘Night, All.

Posted by: Bulg at January 15, 2025 11:47 PM (77rzZ)

233 166 The blue in blue cheese is nature's way of telling you, don't put this stuff in your mouth.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 15, 2025 11:07 PM (JkO4W)
----
Only if it moves.

Posted by: Ciampino - On The Road Again & Again at January 15, 2025 11:47 PM (i0xsb)

234 Bring back the Zeppelin!!!

Posted by: Adriane the Bah Humbug Critic . . . at January 15, 2025 11:47 PM (qz+gL)

235 Steve Garvey lost to Adam Schiff.

LOL.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at January 15, 2025 11:48 PM (ZmEVT)

236 225

Just for the record...Adam Shitless was appointed by Guresome to replace that placeholder Sen. Laphonza Butler's (D) term. She was appointed to serve out Feinstein’s term after she crocked

No one in Cali voted for this POS for the record.

Posted by: Nightwatch at January 15, 2025 11:50 PM (pggNd)

237 Steve Garvey lost to Adam Schiff.

LOL.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at January 15, 2025 11:48 PM (ZmEVT)

I wonder the difference would have made to the voting if the fires had been in September ?

Oh well.

Posted by: Pete Bog at January 15, 2025 11:51 PM (/Elj1)

238 Posted by: RI Red - will work for table scraps at January 15, 2025 11:37 PM (7W6uC)

...caaalllmm....yourrr....thanks, I'll see if I can work that into the next session.

Why'ncha go join Nightwatch and Jim? They seem to have found some popcorn. Ask them why they're staring...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at January 15, 2025 11:52 PM (bA75n)

239 235

Crush the current voting practices run by Democraps in Cali

They will lose now every time. BANK!!!

Posted by: Nightwatch at January 15, 2025 11:53 PM (pggNd)

240 I noted an inadvertent misstatement above and feel pedanticlly compelled to clarify. There never was a Pontiac 'big block'. From 287 to 455, they were all the same block.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 15, 2025 11:55 PM (XeU6L)

241
Wait a minute, I thought Adam Schiff ran and won against Steve Garvey. Looking it up, yep, Schiff won 59% to 41% on Nov 5.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at January 15, 2025 11:56 PM (w6EFb)

242 Voter I.D alone (not for the 5 million + illegals swarming around the state today)

But Voter I.D for LEGAL Citizen's. Democraps would lose every time.

Posted by: Nightwatch at January 15, 2025 11:56 PM (pggNd)

243 241

Posted by: Nightwatch at January 15, 2025 11:58 PM (pggNd)

244 * pedantically

Oh, the irony

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 16, 2025 12:00 AM (XeU6L)

245 RED BLOOM

RED BLOOM

RED BLOOM

Posted by: Nightwatch at January 16, 2025 12:00 AM (pggNd)

246 Praise Allah for President Biden..... You will be missed !!!

Posted by: UBL Jr. at January 16, 2025 12:00 AM (1MSOJ)

247 John Browning. Kelly Johnson. Ed Heineman. Others. Once giants walked the earth. Now apparently all the brains if there are any work on computer crap that may still enslave us all and we build designs from 60 years ago with new computers in them.

Posted by: azjaeger at January 16, 2025 12:03 AM (3/XaG)

248 SOON MAYBE SOON MAYBE SOON MAYBE SOON MAYBE

Blue Origin - New Glenn - Maiden Flight DarkSky-1
LC-36 - CCSFS - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: January 16, 2025
Launch Time: 1:00 a.m. ET, 0600 UTC, 07:00 CET

https://www.youtube.com/live/T7oyvhGApv0

Posted by: Ciampino - In The Sky Again at January 16, 2025 12:03 AM (i0xsb)

249

I sure wish Bondi could have said to Shithead Schiff, "Yeah, we will be investigating many things, one of which is Do we have pedos in government."

Posted by: four seasons at January 16, 2025 12:04 AM (3ek7K)

250 I caught a couple Steve Garvey interviews while he was running. California runs "jungle" primaries where the the top two vote getters run against each other in the general. In the primary, Schiff was running against Garvey and Katie Porter, another dem. Schiff's people threw a lot of money to Garvey in the primary so he could take out Porter. She's still big mad over this. Garvey was and is, a chooch. And I voted for him...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at January 16, 2025 12:04 AM (bA75n)

251 Only four more days to VT Day........

Not Vermont, but Victory Trump Day which is just as important as VJ Day...

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at January 16, 2025 12:04 AM (A2iSa)

252 azjaeger at January 16, 2025 12:03 AM (3/XaG)

James Webb Telescope … Parker Space Probe …

Posted by: Adriane the Bah Humbug Critic . . . at January 16, 2025 12:04 AM (qz+gL)

253 240 I noted an inadvertent misstatement above and feel pedanticlly compelled to clarify. There never was a Pontiac 'big block'. From 287 to 455, they were all the same block.

Mostly the same with Olds too, at least in the 60s-80s classic era

Posted by: azjaeger at January 16, 2025 12:05 AM (3/XaG)

254 "Calm your tits".

One does not so admonish a female, experienced, competitive shooter, so.

"Calmness" leads to higher accuracy, shorter times, and higher scores. Higher scores lead to trophies, cash, fame and fortunes.

Now, maybe "Calm your tits" might get CBD to shoot like Hunter Biden coming down off of a bender of gorgring on French Toast with Maple Syrup while shooting a Hi-Point 9mm.... but I doubt it.

But whisper "wobbly goblin" into Weasel's ear, and watch those scores scatter from hell to breakfast!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 16, 2025 12:06 AM (Xo+UM)

255

chooch
The term is derived from the Italian word "ciuccio" and means jackass, dummy, idiot, or moron. A chooch is a person, who against better judgement, acts inappropriately.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 16, 2025 12:07 AM (63Dwl)

256
Bertram,

So, most of Congress.

Posted by: four seasons at January 16, 2025 12:08 AM (3ek7K)

257 The owner & his boyfriend of drag clubs in Tampa & Orlando, Southern Nights, were indicted on child s—x crimes. The couple allegedly had content of victims as young as 7 & discussed how to groom minors online. A judge allowed them to keep custody of a baby.

https://t.co/m3FWcX1qtY

Posted by: Ciampino - In The Shit Again at January 16, 2025 12:08 AM (i0xsb)

258 Dirty bedsheets crawling on the ground in mourning for the loss of Great Infidel benefactor BIDEN...ripping their dirty bedsheets and beating their children so that they remember...

(Do NOT...repeat DO NOT F up this cease fire.)

TRUMP will know you all very soon if you screw this up.

Posted by: Nightwatch at January 16, 2025 12:08 AM (pggNd)

259 and with that..

Hasta La Bye Bye Horde.

Posted by: Nightwatch at January 16, 2025 12:09 AM (pggNd)

260

(Holds out a glass of dago red to B. Cabot Jr)

Posted by: Joe Kidd at January 16, 2025 12:12 AM (bA75n)

261 Minnesota had an A-12 at the Minneapolis / St. Paul Airport then the government called up and said, "Someone important needs that plane so hand it over."

They also had one of the only flyable P-38s in the world until they closed the place holding it and sent it to California.

I guess we don't get nice things in Minnesota.

Posted by: JB1000 at January 16, 2025 12:12 AM (agR+u)

262 Orange family 😻🧡cute

https://tinyurl.com/yywfev5k

Posted by: Ciampino - In The fur Again at January 16, 2025 12:13 AM (i0xsb)

263 I had to look up the word. Never heard it before.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 16, 2025 12:13 AM (63Dwl)

264 So my takeaway from today is that the chooches in Congress are terrified of Kash Patel.

Posted by: Scarymary at January 16, 2025 12:15 AM (whIlM)

265 BYE BYE ANESTHESIA: Climate change alarmists could ban or restrict medical anesthesia under new bill.

https://t.co/ut9I9lswal

We could take a few of these proponents, and amputate a leg hear, an arm there, with no anesthesia ..... just saying.

Posted by: Ciampino - In The Air Again at January 16, 2025 12:16 AM (i0xsb)

266 Well, getting late-ish here, and i want to hit the sack. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 16, 2025 12:17 AM (8zz6B)

267 263 I had to look up the word. Never heard it before.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 16, 2025 12:13 AM (63Dwl)

Very common NY/NJ/PA Italian vernacular.

Posted by: Joe Kidd at January 16, 2025 12:21 AM (bA75n)

268 A VERY GOOD BOY!
K9 Rocky, part of the U.S. Marshal’s Special Operations Group, was shot multiple times in the neck during takedown of the man who killed Brazoria County Deputy Jesus Vargas. Rocky was flown to the vet in a DPS chopper & is expected to survive. His handler says he saved his life.

https://tinyurl.com/n88e2cme

Posted by: Ciampino - In The Air Again! at January 16, 2025 12:23 AM (i0xsb)

269 I miss having a good rotisserie pterodactyl... :-(

Posted by: As not seen on TV at January 16, 2025 12:25 AM (IGXI6)

270 I know 'ciucco' meaning dummy, donkey, etc.

Posted by: Ciampino - asshole is usable too at January 16, 2025 12:26 AM (i0xsb)

271 You just can't get a good Bronto- burger anymore.

Posted by: F. Flintstone at January 16, 2025 12:28 AM (oCQp3)

272 Mostly the same with Olds too, at least in the 60s-80s classic era
Posted by: azjaeger at January 16, 2025 12:05 AM (3/XaG)

Not even the Rocket 88?

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 16, 2025 12:30 AM (7MHHr)

273 264 So my takeaway from today is that the chooches in Congress are terrified of Kash Patel.
Posted by: Scarymary at January 16, 2025 12:15 AM (whIlM)

Brava bella! Used it properly in a sentence and everything! Gonna have you ordering sfogliatelle like a regular paisana in no time!

Posted by: Joe Kidd at January 16, 2025 12:30 AM (bA75n)

274
Schiff's people threw a lot of money to Garvey in the primary so he could take out Porter. She's still big mad over this. Garvey was and is, a chooch. And I voted for him...
Posted by: Joe Kidd

=============

I got a good laugh out of that episode. Katie Porter looks like Phyllis on The Office. She would have gotten the Body Positivity vote and possibly beaten Schiff if she'd made it to the Top Two.

Garvey is a chooch all right. Many years ago he said he was interested in politics and had been approached by both parties. Wasn't sure which one he'd go with, but he had made it known that he would settle for nothing less than state governor or US Senator. The only real thing to decide was whether he'd be a Democrat or a Republican.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 16, 2025 12:33 AM (Ro7Og)

275 Can't even say I've been lurking tonight. Wandered off to watch cafe clips, History Guy, Cowboy Kent Rollins, and some other amusements. Skirted the edge of a few rabbit holes, but baled out before getting too sucked in.

Here's something I found out there
https://youtu.be/kxOmfSYsxQ0

G'nite, y'all. May the good Lord bless and keep you.

Posted by: mindful webworker - we at January 16, 2025 12:33 AM (RhFgK)

276
Just saw this. Adam Schiff's wife is named Eve. Adam and Eve. From some pictures, it's indeed "Adam's family".

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at January 16, 2025 12:38 AM (w6EFb)

277 Well this was fun!
Good night all💤

Posted by: COMountainMarie at January 16, 2025 12:40 AM (rbizP)

278 Great bird, the SR-71. They created plenty of sonic booms over the Upper Mojave over the years.

Posted by: Tommy Shanks at January 16, 2025 12:44 AM (gqJKB)

279 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 16, 2025 12:33 AM (Ro7Og)

His campaign had all the trappings of an ego run. What killed me (yet again) was that this was the best candidate the CA GOP could put forward. I really worry for who succeeds Newsome in '26. For all the GOP voters we have here, the party leadership is fragmented beyond any hope.

Posted by: Joe Kidd at January 16, 2025 12:45 AM (bA75n)

280 NASA - ISS Spacewalk #91
International Space Station - Space Affairs Live
Two NASA astronauts will venture outside the International Space Station on Thursday, Jan. 16, to conduct U.S. spacewalk 91.
The first spacewalk is scheduled to begin at 7 a.m. on Jan. 16 and last about six and a half hours.

https://www.youtube.com/live/yZqvmJ6n4nI

I wonder how do external parts get damaged on the ISS?

Posted by: Ciampino - I wonder at January 16, 2025 12:49 AM (i0xsb)

281 I have frequently mentioned here the loss of a facility during The Storm, the Veterans Restoration Quarters. We plan on rescuing the structure, with the addition of a floodwall for future protection. Today, I received the new regs for doing so.

The first 60 pages covers State and FEMA definitions of terms. Pgs. 60 and 61 cover the meat and potatoes, I haven't digested the remaining 20 pages.

Here's an example from one of those first 60 pages:
"Major subdivision: See "subdivision, major."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 16, 2025 12:52 AM (XeU6L)

282 Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at January 15, 2025 11:17 PM (w6EFb)

Thor ordered a dehumidifier from Amazon once, a good sized one.

It was placed inside a huge box, and wrapped in a single sheet of thin kraft paper.

I have ordered lipstick that came unbound in tbe same box as 5 cases of canned cat food.

I doubt most of the packets have the reading skills necessary to pronounce Melania's name.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at January 16, 2025 12:53 AM (Vvh2V)

283 Bezos Blue Origin is at T - 20 mins & Hold.

Posted by: Ciampino - I wonder at January 16, 2025 12:54 AM (i0xsb)

284 External parts on the ISS probably take damage from tiny bits of space junk and micro-meteors.

There's probably a joke to be made about female astronauts trying to parallel park it, but I'm above such things.

Posted by: PabloD at January 16, 2025 12:56 AM (zD6D1)

285 281
Here's an example from one of those first 60 pages:
"Major subdivision: See "subdivision, major."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 16, 2025 12:52 AM (XeU6L)
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Goes well with
Recursion: See Recursion.
Redundancy Department of Redundancy

Posted by: Ciampino - Bureaucracy: See Redtape at January 16, 2025 12:58 AM (i0xsb)

286
I was watching one of those space shows, "NASA Unexplained" or something that was one early this morning. They try to make things mysterious and exciting, and it's sort of silly sometimes.

Anyway, they did one about tears on spacesuit gloves. The hand rails on the exterior of the ISS get pelted with little micrometeoroids, and there may have been some other effect. It can produce some sharp, snaggy defects that can tear the material.

And then they had a bit about a spacesuit that started leaking water coolant inside. The guy was out and his helmet starting filling with water. They had that problem again recently.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at January 16, 2025 01:04 AM (w6EFb)

287 You know, when I saw "Rashida Jones steps down as MSNBC President", I honestly thought you were talking about the daughter of Quincy Jones and Peggy Lipton. But that's an entirely different Rashida Jones!

Posted by: Pete in Texas at January 16, 2025 01:06 AM (BHrzb)

288 I just stepped outside, from where I sit, Mars is at the absolute peak position of the hemisphere right now! What’s beautiful sky; Orion is riding high, his Big Dog is following, and Jupiter is shining over in Taurus , one of the best skies I have seen in a long time!

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 16, 2025 01:13 AM (7MHHr)

289
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 16, 2025 01:13 AM (7MHHr)

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Where are you that you can avoid light pollution? General area?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 16, 2025 01:17 AM (Ro7Og)

290 >> Mars is at the absolute peak position of the hemisphere right now!

Mars was right at opposition this evening (exact moment was around 02:30 Zulu). Thus it transits at exactly local (apparent solar) midnight. For me, that's 12:29 + about 9 minutes (Equation of Time).

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at January 16, 2025 01:17 AM (w6EFb)

291
For two nights after Helene, we had the darkest skies since I can remember. I could see the Pleiades brilliantly.

Of course, I'll take power and light pollution over dark skies any day. :-)

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at January 16, 2025 01:18 AM (w6EFb)

292
Go to www.lightpollutionmap.info for a light pollution level map.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at January 16, 2025 01:20 AM (w6EFb)

293 Jill Biden's bitter parting shot to Nancy Pelosi after she knifed Joe

https://mol.im/a/14290171

Posted by: Ciampino - Bitter Bint at January 16, 2025 01:21 AM (i0xsb)

294
Tom, did you get to see the lunar occultation of Mars on Monday evening?

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at January 16, 2025 01:22 AM (w6EFb)

295 I’m in East Texas, in Tyler, but it is an extremely clear night. And very quiet. I think cold air is much more clear.
I think the best stars I have ever seen have been on a plateau in northern New Mexico, near Chaco. 7,000 feet elevation, 10% humidity. Those nights I was sure I could even see some galaxies with my naked eye, looked like distant smudges.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 16, 2025 01:23 AM (7MHHr)

296 What about the animals in LA? Well here's one story ...

Firefighters rescue man’s cat in LA after his house burns down; owner’s emotional reaction

https://iturl.in/b7d9c2fd

Posted by: Ciampino - good kitty at January 16, 2025 01:24 AM (i0xsb)

297 Yes I did see the occultation, although the moon was so bright it was hard to see when it came back out.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 16, 2025 01:24 AM (7MHHr)

298 External parts on the ISS probably take damage from tiny bits of space junk and micro-meteors.

There's probably a joke to be made about female astronauts trying to parallel park it, but I'm above such things.

Posted by: PabloD at January 16, 2025 12:56 AM (zD6D1)

I'm not. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 16, 2025 01:26 AM (VwHCD)

299
For all the GOP voters we have here, the party leadership is fragmented beyond any hope.
Posted by: Joe Kidd

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Baseball player stepping straight into a governership as his first political office. That is ego.

I don't know what the deal is with the CAGOP. Not enough $upport from the RNC? (which is understandable considering the state of the state)

But California has some good Republicans and conservatarians. I bet they could make plausible runs if they had the money.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 16, 2025 01:26 AM (Ro7Og)

300 Arsonists still doing it. Bystanders jump into action using the fire hoses supplied by Westfield Sherman Oaks Mall parking garage after an arsonist set some brush on fire between the parking garage and 101 freeway.

Posted by: Ciampino - good kitty at January 16, 2025 01:26 AM (i0xsb)

301
I was sure I could even see some galaxies with my naked eye, looked like distant smudges.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 16, 2025 01:23 AM (7MHHr)

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Sigh. Sounds incredible.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 16, 2025 01:27 AM (Ro7Og)

302 YF-12 was a two seater. Radar Operator, at a minmum. Not sure of his other duties, probably many.

Posted by: Jimmy Doolittle at January 16, 2025 01:27 AM (sguht)

303 Denmark's prime minister reveals her message about Greenland to Trump

https://mol.im/a/14289017

Posted by: Ciampino - What are Danes good for? at January 16, 2025 01:28 AM (i0xsb)

304 Crap! [Slips on a coat to go outside]. I think it is hazy, but I'll take a look. Hazy indeed, but clear overhead. Thar be Mars, looking good!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 16, 2025 01:29 AM (XeU6L)

305 Bezos Blue Origin is at T - 20 mins & Hold.

Posted by: Ciampino - I wonder at January 16, 2025 12:54 AM (i0xsb)

At this point he's just trolling us. Seems like he'll never get that pos off the ground.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 16, 2025 01:30 AM (VwHCD)

306
Posted by: Ciampino - good kitty at January 16, 2025 01:24 AM (i0xsb)

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That cat is sweet. My cat would have shredded my arms and shot back into the burning house.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 16, 2025 01:30 AM (Ro7Og)

307
I got some binoculars out and was able to see it get much closer. Heck, to my eyes, I lost Mars close to 15 minutes before contact, which was 9:08 - :09 EST.

I saw it emerge with the binocs abut 2 minutes after the predicted time, which was 10:17 or so.

And watching that gives you a sense of how fast the Moon moves relative to the sky, about 1 lunar diameter per hour.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at January 16, 2025 01:31 AM (w6EFb)

308 Dropped some groceries off today at the home of a couple I have known for years. She is 89, he is 96. They had a loaf of banana nut bread (walnut) waiting for me. So, as we speak, I am enjoying a very nice slice, gently warmed in the microwave.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 16, 2025 01:33 AM (XeU6L)

309 I think this has been discussed this before

John Deere faces backlash over very unpopular practice farmers hate

https://mol.im/a/14288851

Posted by: Ciampino - Dear, Deer, Deere. Seen one ... at January 16, 2025 01:35 AM (i0xsb)

310 Denmark's prime minister reveals her message about Greenland to Trump
https://mol.im/a/14289017
Posted by: Ciampino - What are Danes good for? at January 16, 2025 01:28 AM (i0xsb)

Maybe when Trump meets with Putin on how to carve up Ukraine, he can get some pointers.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at January 16, 2025 01:36 AM (oCQp3)

311 And watching that gives you a sense of how fast the Moon moves relative to the sky, about 1 lunar diameter per hour.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at January 16, 2025 01:31 AM (w6EFb)

I have a second story bedroom window that faces west, at about 6 the next morning I got up, it was still dark and I could see both Mars and the full Moon out that window. Surprised that it was already a few moon diameters away.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 16, 2025 01:38 AM (7MHHr)

312 Blue Glenn T - 25 muns

Some fool in a boat sailed into the exclusion zone so I guess the CG had to go kick him out.

Posted by: Ciampino - Dear, Deer, Deere. Seen one ... at January 16, 2025 01:38 AM (i0xsb)

313 I wonder how do external parts get damaged on the ISS?
Posted by: Ciampino - I wonder

The Cold, and Intense radiation. And the micro meteors as mentioned.

Posted by: Adriane the Bah Humbug Critic . . . at January 16, 2025 01:40 AM (qz+gL)

314 And the occasional Foo Fighter collision …

Posted by: Adriane the Bah Humbug Critic . . . at January 16, 2025 01:41 AM (qz+gL)

315
Go to www.lightpollutionmap.info for a light pollution level map.
Posted by: publius

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Rrrr, trying to get Windows or Chrome or whatever it is to stop refusing to share my geolocation!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 16, 2025 01:44 AM (Ro7Og)

316 Clear, starry sky here tonight.

Too cold to stay out long, especially with the breeze.

Orion was directly overhead about an hour ago. (The first constellation I remember seeing as a young'un, due to the "belt" of 3 stars, of course)

Posted by: JQ at January 16, 2025 01:45 AM (YoCnN)

317 Go to www.lightpollutionmap.info for a light pollution level map.
Posted by: publius
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That was one of the few postive aspects of the storm. ZERO ambient light. It was pretty damn eerie though, the entire county pitch black dark. Like a Twilight Zone segment.

I didn't, but people claimed seeing the Milky Way, and I believe it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 16, 2025 01:48 AM (XeU6L)

318 Haven't seen the Milky Way since visiting relatives up North, in a tiny community in the middle of nowhere..

It was wondrous. Lots of shooting stars too, because mid-August meteor shower!

Posted by: JQ at January 16, 2025 01:57 AM (YoCnN)

319
Well, Bezos looks like he's gonna make orbit.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at January 16, 2025 02:10 AM (w6EFb)

320
He's gonna try to land the booster on a barge, too.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at January 16, 2025 02:10 AM (w6EFb)

321 The tin-tongued, Tupperware-branded, moron that currently resides at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue leaves as he entered, pathetically struggling to make some incomprehensible point to his time in office. Who writes his speeches, KJP? It’s embarrassing!
He clearly has no idea what he’s saying. He should’ve sent out a Native American surrogate to accept his consolation prize.

Posted by: Unkaren at January 16, 2025 02:10 AM (PksB3)

322

"Frozen data" from the booster. Don't know if it made it or not.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at January 16, 2025 02:14 AM (w6EFb)

323
Second stage made orbit. Bezos makes orbit for the first time. On the live stream, they've apparently got Elon vs Bezos fan bois arguing with each other.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at January 16, 2025 02:17 AM (w6EFb)

324 Trump should’ve let Joe take credit for the disaster of the Israel-Hamas deal. That agreement will NEVER come to fruition. Six weeks? It won’t last six days. Trump’s first day in office should begin by killing the top terrorist- PERIOD! There will be NO peace without consequences.

Posted by: Unkaren at January 16, 2025 02:19 AM (PksB3)

325
My God, looking at all the grown ass men at Blue Origin jumping up and down and squeeing like tweeny-boppers at some boy band concert.

You're supposed to be steely-eyed missile men. Steely-eyed missile men do not act like this. You project an air of cool confidence, you're not excited, you do this every day.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at January 16, 2025 02:19 AM (w6EFb)

326
Bezos' booster didn't make the landing.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at January 16, 2025 02:28 AM (w6EFb)

327 First rocket launched is a celebration for them. A lot of work and it's great to see several options for space launches. Eventually the industry will shake itself into 2-3 reliable companies.
I was looking forward to the booster landing. Better luck next time.

Posted by: Ciampino - astra stella star at January 16, 2025 02:28 AM (i0xsb)

328 Remember the Space Walk in a couple of hours.

https://www.youtube.com/live/yZqvmJ6n4nI

Posted by: Ciampino - astra stella star at January 16, 2025 02:33 AM (i0xsb)

329 Too many Skunk and SR-71, F-117, ATF, Dark Spot, JSF/X-35 stories to tell.

Plus, all you gang go to bed, before I get my night owl opportunity to contribute.

I was a Skunk engineer, aero, started in 1980 on F-117. Probably giving myself away, as Nurse Ratched told him, opsec, Jimmy.

I will let the horde know when I get my X-35 book published. I was very much in the thick of all of that. I'm at draft, with the final 2 chapters about to start.

Posted by: Jimmy Doolittle at January 16, 2025 02:33 AM (sguht)

330 Bezos' booster didn't make the landing.
Posted by: publius

Should'a use Prime...
* BONG RIP *

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 16, 2025 02:34 AM (mlg/3)

331 McDonald's is sued over 'astonishing' $33M in Latino scholarships

https://mol.im/a/14287891

I'm surprised that Blacks didn't complain or don't tell me there's an ongoing one for them too?

Posted by: Ciampino - Funny that at January 16, 2025 02:44 AM (i0xsb)

332 Woke LA mayor Karen Bass' deputy who oversees fire department is on administrative leave after FBI raided his home last month over City Hall bomb threat

https://mol.im/a/14288243

Posted by: Ciampino - Funny that too at January 16, 2025 02:46 AM (i0xsb)

333 United flight forced to turn around after hitting a coyote during takeoff

https://tinyurl.com/56zdvf6v

Posted by: Ciampino - Pity the animal at January 16, 2025 02:51 AM (i0xsb)

334 Fell asleep early, just woke up at 2340 PST to find I missed the ONT. Enjoying the Blackbird-centric focus. Lived at George AFB in the mid 80s, a small TAC base since closed under Clinton, and about all we saw on the flightline was F4G wild weasels from the Vietnam era.

Posted by: MammaB at January 16, 2025 02:55 AM (XoE7z)

335 I may be mistaken but to me Trump's ultimatum was 'Release ALL the hostages BEFORE Jan 20 or else it's bye bye!'

ALL, BEFORE, BYE BYE

Anything else is wasted breath and walking it back - not the gesture of a strong man.

Am I wrong?

Posted by: Ciampino - Bye Bye is B-52s with 30 tons bombs each at January 16, 2025 03:04 AM (i0xsb)

336 Lived at George AFB in the mid 80s, a small TAC base since closed under Clinton, and about all we saw on the flightline was F4G wild weasels from the Vietnam era.
Posted by: MammaB at January 16, 2025 02:55 AM (XoE7z)

George was out in the California desert. Folks who drove in from the east could see that it was only 10 miles from the thriving city of Victorville. Folks driving in from the north would only see desert and the adjacent ramshackle village of Adelanto. It was not unusual for dependant wives who had taken the northern route to burst into tears when they arrived at the base.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at January 16, 2025 03:05 AM (oCQp3)

337 Got to see the Blackbird aruve for 2 airshow in early 80s. Awesomeness for real. Beautiful & powerful.

Posted by: OkJohn at January 16, 2025 03:12 AM (NC/it)

338 "the adjacent ramshackle village of Adelanto"
AKA Afterburn City since the planes took off in that direction

Posted by: MammaB at January 16, 2025 03:13 AM (XoE7z)

339
See Daily Mail. There's a poll out about Newscum and Karen Bass. 48% hold both of them "greatly or somewhat" responsible for the fires. Newscum gets more "greatly responsible" than Bass.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at January 16, 2025 03:13 AM (w6EFb)

340 Trump should’ve let Joe take credit for the disaster of the Israel-Hamas deal. That agreement will NEVER come to fruition. Six weeks? It won’t last six days. Trump’s first day in office should begin by killing the top terrorist- PERIOD! There will be NO peace without consequences.
Posted by: Unkaren at January 16, 2025 02:19 AM (PksB3)
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Here in Israel, many of us are very despondent. I cannot speak for the majority because when you look how majorities often vote, that, too, makes one despondent.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at January 16, 2025 03:13 AM (Hbs7G)

341 Am I wrong?
Posted by: Ciampino - Bye Bye is B-52s with 30 tons bombs each at January 16, 2025 03:04 AM (i0xsb)
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A bit. Some things he said about consequence are vague in whom he was addressing.

Simply explain to me why Trump didn't tell Netanyahu to just say no to the current DC Regime and wait another week.

I can only hope that there's some 4D chess plays being made here with Netanyahu and Trump in cahoots with each other but there's zero proof to that.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at January 16, 2025 03:16 AM (Hbs7G)

342 Examines ONT... ... ... .

Doffs cap and shuffles along.

Posted by: somejoe at January 16, 2025 03:19 AM (RCAte)

343 Good night everybody....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 16, 2025 03:32 AM (QGaXH)

344 I don't want to get up

Posted by: Skip at January 16, 2025 03:59 AM (fwDg9)

345 I don't want to grow up!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at January 16, 2025 04:05 AM (Hbs7G)

346 Light frost here. I have been so blessed. For so long. & too self absorbed to recognize it. Life is good today. May have to go bankrupt financially, but oh well. Please God, help me seek and do your will, not mine.
Thanks to Fen for morning links, and all the horde that amuses and delights. How to live in a world "led" by such Utterly corrupt humans. It is a challenge for sure.
Apologies for disjointed post.

Posted by: OkJohn at January 16, 2025 04:37 AM (NC/it)

347 I flew Navy C-12's from Rota, Spain in the late 80's and on a flight to RAF Mildenhall I was privileged to see a Blackbird land there. BTW, three years flying from southern Spain was the best duty ever!

Posted by: Esteve at January 16, 2025 10:19 AM (weH2K)

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