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Focus Group Says That Democrats Are Weak and Overly Focused on "Diversity" and Other "Elite" Luxury Concerns Like Endless Gender Transitions for Children
Obviously, all of this was already obvious, and obvious for the past 10 years. Trump didn't get elected in 2016 because the public supported in the Democrat "elite" agenda, after all.New research shows the massive hole Dems are in Even voters who previously backed Democrats cast the party as weak and overly focused on diversity and elites.That massive hole? Doctor Jill Biden.
The focus groups, um, focused on Democrats who had either jumped to Trump or had just stayed home.
Democrats conducting post-mortems on their sweeping losses in 2024 are finding more reason for alarm. And the problem isn't just Kamala Harris or Joe Biden. In a trio of focus groups, even voters who previously backed Democrats cast the party as weak and overly focused on diversity and elites, according to research by the progressive group Navigator Research. When asked to compare the Democratic Party to an animal, one participant compared the party to an ostrich because "they've got their heads in the sand and are absolutely committed to their own ideas, even when they're failing." Another likened them to koalas, who "are complacent and lazy about getting policy wins that we really need." Democrats, another said, are "not a friend of the working class anymore."
[W]hile some Democrats blame Biden, others blame inflation and still others blame "losing hold of culture," the feedback from the focus groups found Democrats' problems are even more widespread and potentially long-lasting than a single election cycle. ... "This weakness they see, [Democrats] not getting things done, not being able to actually fight for people -- is something that needs to be figured out," Russell said. "It might not be the message, it might be the policy. It might be something a little bit deeper that has to be addressed by the party."
...I can't imagine what Democrats can do about this. The problem is that they have made all of these bizarre policies categorical imperatives, as Kant would call them -- questions of pure good vs. pure evil. There is no possibility of compromise when you've defined something as a categorical imperative, one of the atheists' Ten Commandments. Their weird dark pagan gods have pronounced that transgenderism is a perfect good not just for everyone but children in particular -- who is mere politician to gainsay what Satan has decreed? Democrats found themselves in a similar position post Jimmy Carter, and were not willing to moderate -- or appear to moderate -- until weak-kneed pussy George Bush (senior) embarrassed them in 1988. Only after that third electoral drubbing did the supposedly "centrist" Democratic Leadership Conference, an organization of alleged moderates including a lot of governors whose experience was more practical and less ideological, wrest control of the party from the effete pansy leftist academic/government lifer faction. I know I've already said this and in fact said it already just today, but I can't see how Democrats can throw off their (Satanic) religious dogmas based on one lost election. It will take multiple losses before a rebel "centrist" movement can take control of the Democrat Cult again. A group like the DLC doesn't even exist right now. There's not even a group of Democrats banded together to make the case that academic/tech bro leftist progressivism is an electoral dead end. Before a (fake) moderate can win the Democrat presidential nomination, there first has to be a serious movement within the party to make such a thing happen. There isn't one. Basically there's John Fetterman criticizing some of the more loopy open borders/pro-crime stuff and Bernie Sanders knocking identity politics (while still making a case for a more colorblind socialism). And who else is there? Manchin retired, Krysten Sinema was voted out. All that's left is Pelosi, AOC, Hakeem Jeffries, and a ton of Democrats united only by anti-white, anti-male, anti-straight, anti-Christian hatred. Update:
"I think what the Democratic elites and their politicians believe is often very different from what the average Democratic voter is," said a Georgia man who voted for Biden in 2020 but Trump in 2024. "The elites that run the Democratic Party -- I think they're way too obsessed with appealing to these very far-left social progressivism that's very popular on college campuses." ...
Even though the focus group voters did not solely blame Harris for their distaste of the Democratic Party, they also weren't happy about her candidacy. Participants described her as "inauthentic," "very dishonest" and "did not seem competent." ...
Democrats disagree on the potency of the [Trump ad about transgenderism, sauing "Trump is for you, Kamala Harris is for they/them"], but several participants raised it unprompted in the focus groups. Lagging turnout was a major problem for Democrats in November. One woman from Georgia who didn't vote in 2024 said that she didn't agree with Harris' "thinking that it's okay for children to change their body parts." "I think that there needs to be some parameters on what's accepted in society and what isn't. Some of the societal norms, and I think that the Democrats have tried to open that up a little too much," said a woman from Wisconsin who also didn't vote in 2024. When asked by the moderator if she was referring to the "trans issue," the woman said, "primarily that."
Van Jones is getting close to understanding what happened, but still thinks he's on the high IQ team.
— Scott Adams (@ScottAdamsSays) December 22, 2024
At the leadership and advisor level, Republicans have the smartest group ever assembled. https://t.co/SQ0uiCSrOp
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Sponge!
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 23, 2024 02:32 PM (jHelr)
Posted by: garrett at December 23, 2024 02:32 PM (j6KoD)
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"I will remove our hundreds of millions of dollars in donations if you even hint at pulling back on trannyism."
-The Priztker Patriarch
-The Priztker Patriarch
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 02:33 PM (4LF+x)
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Folks in the last thread asked for something more uplifting in the next thread, and Ace delivers!
Also, corgis summoned.
Also, corgis summoned.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 23, 2024 02:34 PM (a3Q+t)
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What happens when you get distracted from your core mission of bribing people with their own money.
Posted by: Zek at December 23, 2024 02:34 PM (5FPX4)
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focused on nooding
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 02:34 PM (hovnC)
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Democrats, another said, are "not a friend of the working class anymore."
beg to differ... they love all their working class voters who live six feet under
beg to differ... they love all their working class voters who live six feet under
Posted by: kallisto at December 23, 2024 02:34 PM (dCxaZ)
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Before a (fake) moderate can win the Democrat presidential nomination, there first has to be a serious movement within the party to make such a thing happen. There isn't one. Basically there's John Fetterman criticizing some of the more loopy open borders/pro-crime stuff and Bernie Sanders knocking identity politics (while still making a case for a more colorblind socialism).
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And being Chuck Schumer's bitch on every vote.
The Democrat Party needs an outsider. An actual outsider.
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And being Chuck Schumer's bitch on every vote.
The Democrat Party needs an outsider. An actual outsider.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 02:34 PM (4LF+x)
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But she's a doctor!
Posted by: Most of the people in Brattleboro, VT at December 23, 2024 02:35 PM (dg+HA)
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If the 6 battleground states fixed their voting the way that FL and OH did, the dems would be a perma-minority
Posted by: kallisto at December 23, 2024 02:35 PM (dCxaZ)
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What would a centrist Democrat be exactly nowadays?
They would want to cut off breasts from kids but not genitalia? Bring in illegals to rape Americans but not setting them on fire? Opposed to post-birth abortions but ok with earlier ones?
They would want to cut off breasts from kids but not genitalia? Bring in illegals to rape Americans but not setting them on fire? Opposed to post-birth abortions but ok with earlier ones?
Posted by: 18-1 at December 23, 2024 02:36 PM (oZhjI)
Posted by: kallisto at December 23, 2024 02:36 PM (dCxaZ)
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Actually, referencing the commutation of all of the death sentences, this is actually a genius move by Biden, His Infernal Majesty.
Now, right around Christmas, it gets all of his critics talking about the brutality of the cases, which will be seen as a real "downer" to the public who want to hear about Rudolph sightings.
Biden can go out to his liberal Catholic, Unitarian, and etc constituencies spouting bullshit about forgiveness and redemption.
Now, right around Christmas, it gets all of his critics talking about the brutality of the cases, which will be seen as a real "downer" to the public who want to hear about Rudolph sightings.
Biden can go out to his liberal Catholic, Unitarian, and etc constituencies spouting bullshit about forgiveness and redemption.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 23, 2024 02:36 PM (73voq)
Posted by: Too many holes at December 23, 2024 02:36 PM (UKe2c)
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"I think what the Democratic elites and their politicians believe is often very different from what the average Democratic voter is," said a Georgia man who voted for Biden in 2020 but Trump in 2024. "The elites that run the Democratic Party -- I think they're way too obsessed with appealing to these very far-left social progressivism that's very popular on college campuses."
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Gee whiz.
Welcome to the party.
Prepare to be disappointed in the Republicans, too, for essentially the same reasons.
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Gee whiz.
Welcome to the party.
Prepare to be disappointed in the Republicans, too, for essentially the same reasons.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 02:36 PM (HnUIn)
Posted by: ace at December 23, 2024 02:36 PM (KRtlO)
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That massive hole? Jill Biden.
Front hole, back hole, bonus hole?
Modern leftist sexual politics as Dr Seuss?
Front hole, back hole, bonus hole?
Modern leftist sexual politics as Dr Seuss?
Posted by: 18-1 at December 23, 2024 02:37 PM (oZhjI)
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The Democrat Party is held hostage by its far left fringe, encamped out there on the edge of reality. The smart thing would be to get sober and cut that fringe off completely.
I hope the Dems never realize this.
I hope the Dems never realize this.
Posted by: Don Black. Message: bring back the old kickoff rules at December 23, 2024 02:37 PM (/7KEl)
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I must disagree here. I believe the Dems are already turning things around, as witnessed by their recent deployment of 20 year-old 'influencers' to win back the male* vote.
*Male, as in how the Dems attempted to redefine it in the Harris/Walz campaign.
*Male, as in how the Dems attempted to redefine it in the Harris/Walz campaign.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 23, 2024 02:37 PM (a3Q+t)
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"I think that there needs to be some parameters on what's accepted in society and what isn't. Some of the societal norms, and I think that the Democrats have tried to open that up a little too much," said a woman from Wisconsin who also didn't vote in 2024.
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I'm pretty sure that's supremacist talk.
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I'm pretty sure that's supremacist talk.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 02:37 PM (HnUIn)
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18 The Democrat Party is held hostage by its far left fringe, encamped out there on the edge of reality. The smart thing would be to get sober and cut that fringe off completely.
I hope the Dems never realize this.
Posted by: Don Black. Message: bring back the old kickoff rules at December 23, 2024 02:37 PM (/7KEl)
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They are not held hostage to it.
They are funded by the far left fringe.
You don't start pushing trannyism on a global scale just because some loopy accounts on Twitter want it.
I hope the Dems never realize this.
Posted by: Don Black. Message: bring back the old kickoff rules at December 23, 2024 02:37 PM (/7KEl)
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They are not held hostage to it.
They are funded by the far left fringe.
You don't start pushing trannyism on a global scale just because some loopy accounts on Twitter want it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 02:37 PM (4LF+x)
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All that's left is Pelosi, AOC, Hakeem Jeffries, and a ton of Democrats united only by anti-white, anti-male, anti-straight, anti-Christian hatred."
And here's the core of the pretty trap they've put themselves in - if they run some centrist moderate, then the most dedicated and active part of their party drops out and probably doesn't vote. I think it's going to be easier to build a new party than it will to fix this one, they've put radicals in charge at every level.
And here's the core of the pretty trap they've put themselves in - if they run some centrist moderate, then the most dedicated and active part of their party drops out and probably doesn't vote. I think it's going to be easier to build a new party than it will to fix this one, they've put radicals in charge at every level.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 23, 2024 02:38 PM (wyMQY)
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They should dig themselves out of this hole. Keep digging, never mind that digging just gets you in deeper.
Posted by: huerfano at December 23, 2024 02:38 PM (DKIGo)
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"Dr." Jill is from Massachusetts?
Posted by: Who knew at December 23, 2024 02:38 PM (dg+HA)
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>>> I must disagree here. I believe the Dems are already turning things around, as witnessed by their recent deployment of 20 year-old 'influencers' to win back the male* vote.
I love trucks, whisky, and well-maintained vag.
I love trucks, whisky, and well-maintained vag.
Posted by: Potent Heterosexual Stallion Harry Sisson at December 23, 2024 02:38 PM (KRtlO)
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The issue that I see is democrats operate in complete lock step. They do not have issues with members in the house or senate getting out of line and refusing to vote for the party line.
As long as that happens they are a menace and we would remiss if we forget that even as their party appears to be in a state of chaos at this time.
As long as that happens they are a menace and we would remiss if we forget that even as their party appears to be in a state of chaos at this time.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 23, 2024 02:38 PM (Rcnd3)
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The Democrat Party is held hostage by its far left fringe, encamped out there on the edge of reality. The smart thing would be to get sober and cut that fringe off completely.
I hope the Dems never realize this.
Posted by: Don Black
Yeah. Because even the kids coming up realize they are actually crazy.
I hope the Dems never realize this.
Posted by: Don Black
Yeah. Because even the kids coming up realize they are actually crazy.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 23, 2024 02:39 PM (jHelr)
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The Democrat coalition was always on shaky ground, but survived by being propped up by the establishment. There are still people who are sure that the Democrats are the party of the little guy against the rich fat cat Republicans. Every movie, TV show, book, school lesson etc all told them so.
But the party is made up of a large group of varied special interests all pushing for themselves and their agenda, held together by fear of the Republicans and certainty that doom is on the horizon and only by compromising with each other can they survive.
But the party is made up of a large group of varied special interests all pushing for themselves and their agenda, held together by fear of the Republicans and certainty that doom is on the horizon and only by compromising with each other can they survive.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 02:39 PM (RsS92)
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>>>. I think it's going to be easier to build a new party than it will to fix this one, they've put radicals in charge at every level.
i've speculated that as well.
i've speculated that as well.
Posted by: ace at December 23, 2024 02:39 PM (KRtlO)
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I can't imagine what Democrats can do about this. The problem is that they have made all of these bizarre policies categorical imperatives, as Kant would call them -- questions of pure good vs. pure evil. There is no possibility of compromise when you've defined something as a categorical imperative, one of the atheists' Ten Commandments. Their weird dark pagan gods have pronounced that transgenderism is a perfect good not just for everyone but children in particular -- who is mere politician to gainsay what Satan has decreed?
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It's all predicated on an assumption that has - for now, though the jury is definitely not back yet - not proven out.
That assumption is very, very simple: "we are in a position to dictate terms." That's it.
It doesn't matter how radical and niche your policies are when you can shove them down people's throats no matter what, and those people just have to sit there and take it.
This assumption *could* still wind up being true, after this little speedbump. Time will tell.
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It's all predicated on an assumption that has - for now, though the jury is definitely not back yet - not proven out.
That assumption is very, very simple: "we are in a position to dictate terms." That's it.
It doesn't matter how radical and niche your policies are when you can shove them down people's throats no matter what, and those people just have to sit there and take it.
This assumption *could* still wind up being true, after this little speedbump. Time will tell.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 02:39 PM (HnUIn)
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>>>I can't imagine what Democrats can do about this. The problem is that they have made all of these bizarre policies categorical imperatives, as Kant would call them -- questions of pure good vs. pure evil. There is no possibility of compromise when you've defined something as a categorical imperative, one of the atheists' Ten Commandments.
Or, as Stacy McCain has put it, in their minds they're standing on the bridge at Selma in 1965, and when you're standing there, you absolutely cannot turn back, no matter what.
For them to compromise on issues like "transing" children, much less give up, would be a betrayal not just of what they believe in, but of how they think of themselves. No, I don't think they will, or can, change their tune.
Or, as Stacy McCain has put it, in their minds they're standing on the bridge at Selma in 1965, and when you're standing there, you absolutely cannot turn back, no matter what.
For them to compromise on issues like "transing" children, much less give up, would be a betrayal not just of what they believe in, but of how they think of themselves. No, I don't think they will, or can, change their tune.
Posted by: Dr. T at December 23, 2024 02:39 PM (jGGMD)
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When asked to compare the Democratic Party to an animal, one participant compared the party to an ostrich because "they've got their heads in the sand and are absolutely committed to their own ideas, even when they're failing." Another likened them to koalas, who "are complacent and lazy about getting policy wins that we really need." Democrats, another said, are "not a friend of the working class anymore."
I'd have gone with pandas. They're totally unable to handle reality, can't reproduce by themselves, and are utterly committed to the black/white dichotomy.
I'd have gone with pandas. They're totally unable to handle reality, can't reproduce by themselves, and are utterly committed to the black/white dichotomy.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 23, 2024 02:40 PM (xCA6C)
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>>> "Dr." Jill is from Massachusetts?
I don't know. I see her coming from a "clamming" state for some reason.
I don't know. I see her coming from a "clamming" state for some reason.
Posted by: ace at December 23, 2024 02:40 PM (KRtlO)
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Put me in coach!
Posted by: Tim Walz at December 23, 2024 02:40 PM (dg+HA)
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Before a (fake) moderate can win the Democrat presidential nomination, there first has to be a serious movement within the party to make such a thing happen. There isn't one. Basically there's John Fetterman criticizing some of the more loopy open borders/pro-crime stuff and Bernie Sanders knocking identity politics (while still making a case for a more colorblind socialism).
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Which also requires either a replacement of - or conversion amongst, whether transactional or actual - the Party power players and money men. I don't see that happening. They're all-in.
More likely, I think, that they continue from the commanding heights in the administrative state and just do it anyway. It will keep working right up until the whole damn thing falls apart.
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Which also requires either a replacement of - or conversion amongst, whether transactional or actual - the Party power players and money men. I don't see that happening. They're all-in.
More likely, I think, that they continue from the commanding heights in the administrative state and just do it anyway. It will keep working right up until the whole damn thing falls apart.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 02:41 PM (HnUIn)
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And who else is there? Manchin retired, Krysten Sinema was voted out.
I'M TANNED, RESTED AND READY!!!
I'M TANNED, RESTED AND READY!!!
Posted by: Hillary F. Clinton at December 23, 2024 02:41 PM (wtvvX)
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Democrats operate on hate, division and destruction. It's easy, and sorta fun. The Dems at the top of their dung pile draw power from the exploitation of vice.
Posted by: Erik In Texas at December 23, 2024 02:41 PM (9Rd9v)
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Eric Abbenante @EricAbbenante Dec 22
Van Jones identifies the 'High IQ, Low EQ' traps progressives fall into:
"Nobody likes to be talked down to. People can spot disrespect / condescension at 1000 yards.
'You suck, follow me' is not as persuasive as liberals think."
Kamala: 'You suck, follow me, I'm a woman POC'
Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays Dec 22
Van Jones is getting close to understanding what happened, but still thinks he's on the high IQ team.
At the leadership and advisor level, Republicans have the smartest group ever assembled.
https://tinyurl.com/nhtp62z3
2:27 minutes
Van Jones identifies the 'High IQ, Low EQ' traps progressives fall into:
"Nobody likes to be talked down to. People can spot disrespect / condescension at 1000 yards.
'You suck, follow me' is not as persuasive as liberals think."
Kamala: 'You suck, follow me, I'm a woman POC'
Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays Dec 22
Van Jones is getting close to understanding what happened, but still thinks he's on the high IQ team.
At the leadership and advisor level, Republicans have the smartest group ever assembled.
https://tinyurl.com/nhtp62z3
2:27 minutes
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 02:41 PM (hovnC)
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18 The Democrat Party is held hostage by its far left fringe, encamped out there on the edge of reality. The smart thing would be to get sober and cut that fringe off completely.
I hope the Dems never realize this.
Posted by: Don Black. Message: bring back the old kickoff rules at December 23, 2024 02:37 PM (/7KEl)
I see them in a similar position as the mainstream protestant churches, which are dying now because of past, bad choices. They decided to go left in their theology, and their conservative members walked out and found other places to go. Now they're locked into permanent decline, especially as much of the older liberal membership is aging out of the game, and they've got no way to come back.
I hope the Dems never realize this.
Posted by: Don Black. Message: bring back the old kickoff rules at December 23, 2024 02:37 PM (/7KEl)
I see them in a similar position as the mainstream protestant churches, which are dying now because of past, bad choices. They decided to go left in their theology, and their conservative members walked out and found other places to go. Now they're locked into permanent decline, especially as much of the older liberal membership is aging out of the game, and they've got no way to come back.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 23, 2024 02:41 PM (wyMQY)
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I'm not at all attracted to AOC, yet it seems to me that she's increasingly framing her little Tic Tocky videos in some kind of super personal, self-consciously erotic way. It's freaking deranged.
Posted by: Zek at December 23, 2024 02:42 PM (5FPX4)
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I'm ready.
I used to be the next Vice President of the United States.
I used to be the next Vice President of the United States.
Posted by: Tim Kaine at December 23, 2024 02:42 PM (dg+HA)
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andycanuck, good one, thanks.
Posted by: ace at December 23, 2024 02:42 PM (KRtlO)
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33 >>> "Dr." Jill is from Massachusetts?
I don't know. I see her coming from a "clamming" state for some reason.
Posted by: ace at December 23, 2024 02:40 PM (KRtlO)
Clamdigger, golddigger, potayto, potahto...
I don't know. I see her coming from a "clamming" state for some reason.
Posted by: ace at December 23, 2024 02:40 PM (KRtlO)
Clamdigger, golddigger, potayto, potahto...
Posted by: Hillary F. Clinton at December 23, 2024 02:42 PM (wtvvX)
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New research shows the massive hole Dems are in
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A giant arsehole making a giant sucking sound.
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A giant arsehole making a giant sucking sound.
Posted by: ShainS -- President-Elect Musk will appoint Vivek to Speaker Of The House! at December 23, 2024 02:42 PM (/Pivs)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at December 23, 2024 02:42 PM (paSBy)
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See also Li, the Democrat mega-bundler on Piers, who committed the unforgivable heresy of saying "a man should be a man and a woman should be a woman."
For that, she received every racist and sexist slur and insult the world knows hurled at her from the Cult Left.
It's not going to be a more moderate, a more centrist, a more reasonable Democrat who will rise to power in the party:
It's controlled by the radicals now.
Who will demand more hate, more crazy, more yelling.
The Cult Left has not even come close to processing what happened less than 60 days ago--because they can't accept that ANY of their positions are not absolutely perfect.
Until Obama changes his mind and injects the new ThinkWare update.
For that, she received every racist and sexist slur and insult the world knows hurled at her from the Cult Left.
It's not going to be a more moderate, a more centrist, a more reasonable Democrat who will rise to power in the party:
It's controlled by the radicals now.
Who will demand more hate, more crazy, more yelling.
The Cult Left has not even come close to processing what happened less than 60 days ago--because they can't accept that ANY of their positions are not absolutely perfect.
Until Obama changes his mind and injects the new ThinkWare update.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 23, 2024 02:42 PM (PixdE)
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29 >>>. I think it's going to be easier to build a new party than it will to fix this one, they've put radicals in charge at every level.
i've speculated that as well.
Posted by: ace at December 23, 2024 02:39 PM (KRtlO)
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Reformation is always going to be easier than starting from scratch.
It takes a very long time and a lot of concentrated effort, but electing moderate Democrats a few at a time over the course of several cycles is easier than breaking through the barriers for entry (both literal and figurative, considering legal hurdles and cultural ones attaching people to existing parties) than starting a "True Democrat" party and expecting any kind of traction.
Hell, look at the Reform Party in England. Best year in decades last year...and it gets 4 seats. 4.
i've speculated that as well.
Posted by: ace at December 23, 2024 02:39 PM (KRtlO)
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Reformation is always going to be easier than starting from scratch.
It takes a very long time and a lot of concentrated effort, but electing moderate Democrats a few at a time over the course of several cycles is easier than breaking through the barriers for entry (both literal and figurative, considering legal hurdles and cultural ones attaching people to existing parties) than starting a "True Democrat" party and expecting any kind of traction.
Hell, look at the Reform Party in England. Best year in decades last year...and it gets 4 seats. 4.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 02:43 PM (4LF+x)
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Another likened them to koalas, who "are complacent and lazy about getting policy wins that we really need."
Who talks like that in a supposed focus group?
“Policy wins”?
This sounds like D.C.-speak to the max.
Where’d they do this focus group?
Somewhere between Northern Virginia and Baltimore?
Who talks like that in a supposed focus group?
“Policy wins”?
This sounds like D.C.-speak to the max.
Where’d they do this focus group?
Somewhere between Northern Virginia and Baltimore?
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 23, 2024 02:43 PM (6ydKt)
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Or, as Stacy McCain has put it, in their minds they're standing on the bridge at Selma in 1965, and when you're standing there, you absolutely cannot turn back, no matter what.
Basically yeah, they hype themselves up and convince themselves that they are at the forefront of history, that they are in the Civil Rights Battle Of Their Time. They all think they are Martin Luther King, they all think they are fighting a heroic battle against the forces of evil.
And meanwhile, the rest of the 80% of humanity thinks that they are insane and possibly even evil.
Basically yeah, they hype themselves up and convince themselves that they are at the forefront of history, that they are in the Civil Rights Battle Of Their Time. They all think they are Martin Luther King, they all think they are fighting a heroic battle against the forces of evil.
And meanwhile, the rest of the 80% of humanity thinks that they are insane and possibly even evil.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 02:43 PM (RsS92)
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People just need to get to know me better.
Posted by: Old Lady Emhoff at December 23, 2024 02:43 PM (dg+HA)
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Leading Report @LeadingReport Dec 22
BREAKING: ‘Vengeful’ Jill Biden is urging ‘depressed’ Joe to ‘burn the whole thing down’ in their final days, per Daily Mail.
Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who spearheaded efforts to push Biden out of the 2024 election race, is reportedly a particular target for the Bidens.
BREAKING: ‘Vengeful’ Jill Biden is urging ‘depressed’ Joe to ‘burn the whole thing down’ in their final days, per Daily Mail.
Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who spearheaded efforts to push Biden out of the 2024 election race, is reportedly a particular target for the Bidens.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 02:43 PM (hovnC)
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>>>'You suck, follow me' is not as persuasive as liberals think."
Kamala: 'You suck, follow me, I'm a woman POC'
No! I said, 'I suck, follow me, I'm a woman POC'! *cackles*
Kamala: 'You suck, follow me, I'm a woman POC'
No! I said, 'I suck, follow me, I'm a woman POC'! *cackles*
Posted by: Kamala Harris at December 23, 2024 02:44 PM (jGGMD)
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One of the best observations about the cult of the intolerant left is that unlike the Abrahamic religions, there's no opportunity for redemption. No Prodigal Son, just the Promiscuous Transgender.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 23, 2024 02:44 PM (73voq)
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you'd think the dems would just rely on doing one thing they do so well: lie
Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 23, 2024 02:45 PM (CWTWj)
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Are you calling me a Masshole?
Posted by: Alleged Doctor Jill at December 23, 2024 02:45 PM (dg+HA)
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Since Obama, it has been the platform of the Democratic party that the United States is a failed state, its origins a theft, its ideals a fraud, its history an unrelived story of blood, oppression, sexism and racism, its people unredeemable Neanderthals. And finally, at the precipice, enough Americans said, "No."
Since Obama, it has been the platform of the Democratic party that the United States is a failed state, its origins a theft, its ideals a fraud, its history an unrelived story of blood, oppression, sexism and racism, its people unredeemable Neanderthals. And finally, at the precipice, enough Americans said, "No."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 23, 2024 02:45 PM (oULv8)
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The Democrat Party has gone all in on trannyism and gender surgeries and porn in elementary schools and drag queens in libraries. How can they walk back from that now, and who would even believe them if they tried?
Posted by: Don Black. Message: bring back the old kickoff rules at December 23, 2024 02:45 PM (/7KEl)
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The decline of the Democratic party is overstated.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 23, 2024 02:45 PM (2+SeL)
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Calling the social and cultural issues "luxury" issues is as true as it gets. People who have no financial worries still need to feel culturally relevant and gravitate towards things that make them feel good but cost nothing.
People who are deciding between fixing the car and feeding the family care nothing about these issues and in fact find them to be a distraction from government doing anything at all positive for them.
Which as an aside is why politicians love these divisive issues too. It keeps the people busy and they don't have to be responsive to real issues.
People who are deciding between fixing the car and feeding the family care nothing about these issues and in fact find them to be a distraction from government doing anything at all positive for them.
Which as an aside is why politicians love these divisive issues too. It keeps the people busy and they don't have to be responsive to real issues.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 23, 2024 02:45 PM (FCbAQ)
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I think it's going to be easier to build a new party than it will to fix this one, they've put radicals in charge at every level.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 23, 2024 02:38 PM (wyMQY)
Hard to tell. Building third parties has such a poor track record of success in the United States. And the globalist whackjob dick-chopping quasi-fascists are the ones bankrolling the Dem party and calling the shots. They wouldn't countenance such a thing.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 23, 2024 02:38 PM (wyMQY)
Hard to tell. Building third parties has such a poor track record of success in the United States. And the globalist whackjob dick-chopping quasi-fascists are the ones bankrolling the Dem party and calling the shots. They wouldn't countenance such a thing.
Posted by: destroy, buy or co-opt at December 23, 2024 02:45 PM (UKe2c)
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The problem is that they have made all of these bizarre policies categorical imperatives, as Kant would call them -- questions of pure good vs. pure evil.
Bingo. No national Democratic politician dares say that men can't get pregnant.
There is a case in Washington state where a man killed his parents, announced that he was a woman, was transferred to a woman's prison, was caught having sex with his cellmate, and is now being transferred back to a men's prison.
Enter the ACLU:
"DOC has stripped her of her humanity by taking her from the women's prison, where she was really, truly excelling, and put her in a place that we know will harm her, both physically and emotionally," says ACLU of Washington staff attorney Adrien Leavitt. "She has a history of physical abuse, sexual abuse, harassment, and emotional abuse in the men's prisons. We know that from studies that trans people are at huge risk of all of those things. It's not, sadly, like we're not guessing about whether that will happen to Amber, because we know it's already happened to her."
Any prominent Democrat in Washington willing to support the Department of Corrections?
Didn't think so.
Bingo. No national Democratic politician dares say that men can't get pregnant.
There is a case in Washington state where a man killed his parents, announced that he was a woman, was transferred to a woman's prison, was caught having sex with his cellmate, and is now being transferred back to a men's prison.
Enter the ACLU:
"DOC has stripped her of her humanity by taking her from the women's prison, where she was really, truly excelling, and put her in a place that we know will harm her, both physically and emotionally," says ACLU of Washington staff attorney Adrien Leavitt. "She has a history of physical abuse, sexual abuse, harassment, and emotional abuse in the men's prisons. We know that from studies that trans people are at huge risk of all of those things. It's not, sadly, like we're not guessing about whether that will happen to Amber, because we know it's already happened to her."
Any prominent Democrat in Washington willing to support the Department of Corrections?
Didn't think so.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 23, 2024 02:45 PM (uxCna)
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"I can't imagine what Democrats can do about this. The problem is that they have made all of these bizarre policies categorical imperatives, as Kant would call them -- questions of pure good vs. pure evil. There is no possibility of compromise when you've defined something as a categorical imperative, one of the atheists' Ten Commandments."
Good said.
Good said.
Posted by: eleven at December 23, 2024 02:46 PM (iziT8)
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All they have to do is make Carville the head of the "pawty."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 23, 2024 02:46 PM (63Dwl)
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Hell, look at the Reform Party in England. Best year in decades last year...and it gets 4 seats. 4.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 02:43 PM (4LF+x)
Technically 5. But some of that was unavoidable, given that it split the non-Labour vote with the Tories.
Right now, the betting markets have Farage as the favorite to become PM after the next election. The question is whether Britain will survive that long.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 02:43 PM (4LF+x)
Technically 5. But some of that was unavoidable, given that it split the non-Labour vote with the Tories.
Right now, the betting markets have Farage as the favorite to become PM after the next election. The question is whether Britain will survive that long.
Posted by: Dr. T at December 23, 2024 02:46 PM (jGGMD)
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When asked to compare the Democratic Party to an animal, one participant compared the party to an ostrich because "they've got their heads in the sand ...
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Human Centipede FTW!
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Human Centipede FTW!
Posted by: ShainS -- President-Elect Musk will appoint Vivek to Speaker Of The House! at December 23, 2024 02:46 PM (/Pivs)
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Another reason that the Dems can't get out of this glide path of death is their hatred of Trump. I have a couple great friends who helped me a few years back when I had heart issues. Played softball with husband for twenty five years and the wife is a wonderful small business owner. They are both libs and they despise Trump she for his general ickiness. Tried to repeatedly point out the insanity of the people they vote for and the response is always "but Truuummp!" Until everything crashes around them they're Dems
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 23, 2024 02:46 PM (DopAq)
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I'm not at all attracted to AOC, yet it seems to me that she's increasingly framing her little Tic Tocky videos in some kind of super personal, self-consciously erotic way. It's freaking deranged.
I'd like to believe you, I would, but I'm going to need some links so that I can confirm for myself. Pity I don't have TicToc installed, nor will I.
I'd like to believe you, I would, but I'm going to need some links so that I can confirm for myself. Pity I don't have TicToc installed, nor will I.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 23, 2024 02:47 PM (xCA6C)
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As I said before, the Democraps' fetishistic obsession with these DEI and "elite" luxury concerns has nothing to do with voters. It has to do with donors.
The Democrap donors are overwhelmingly rich coastal elites, far-left activists, and foreigners hoping to weaken or destroy America. These people are obsessed with DEI and luxury concerns, and demand fealty to their fetishes.
I don't think intelligent Democrap political strategists -- and yes, such a thing exists -- really believe that doubling-down on this perverted insanity will increase voter turnout for them. But they have no choice but to keep their donors happy.
The Democrap donors are overwhelmingly rich coastal elites, far-left activists, and foreigners hoping to weaken or destroy America. These people are obsessed with DEI and luxury concerns, and demand fealty to their fetishes.
I don't think intelligent Democrap political strategists -- and yes, such a thing exists -- really believe that doubling-down on this perverted insanity will increase voter turnout for them. But they have no choice but to keep their donors happy.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 23, 2024 02:47 PM (iFTx/)
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When asked to compare the Democratic Party to an animal, one participant compared the party to an ostrich because "they've got their heads in the sand ...
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Human Centipede FTW!
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The judges would have also accepted lemmings.
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Human Centipede FTW!
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The judges would have also accepted lemmings.
Posted by: ShainS -- President-Elect Musk will appoint Vivek to Speaker Of The House! at December 23, 2024 02:47 PM (/Pivs)
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Earlier it was said that Carter led to the election of three terms of Republicans. The third term being a pseudo Republican.
If Bush had not betrayed the conservative ideal of Reagan we would have had a fourth and maybe a fifth term of Republican presidents.
The majority of Americans are Constitutional Conservatives whether they know it or not but they are too easily uninformed and too easily ill-informed.
If Bush had not betrayed the conservative ideal of Reagan we would have had a fourth and maybe a fifth term of Republican presidents.
The majority of Americans are Constitutional Conservatives whether they know it or not but they are too easily uninformed and too easily ill-informed.
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others _ at December 23, 2024 02:47 PM (kquDM)
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People kept saying that Josh Shaprio would have been a better VP candidate than Walz, and its hard to disagree given that Walz was possibly the worst candidate imaginable. But having seen Shaprio in a few appearances and speeches, I don't think that he'd have made any difference. Putting aside the fact that much of the far left Democrat core would have sat home rather than vote for the pernicious Joo, he's kind of annoying.
I don't mean in the usual Democrat way, he is that too. But he's like the solo album from the movie Fear of a Black Hat:
https://youtu.be/rZHwGnGrm_k
The guy says he's a Jew at least once every time he opens his mouth.
"as a Jewish man, with full Jewitude in my Jewness, I would like to dedicate this new road with full Jewing, because I am in fact a Jew."
Its almost cartoonish.
I don't mean in the usual Democrat way, he is that too. But he's like the solo album from the movie Fear of a Black Hat:
https://youtu.be/rZHwGnGrm_k
The guy says he's a Jew at least once every time he opens his mouth.
"as a Jewish man, with full Jewitude in my Jewness, I would like to dedicate this new road with full Jewing, because I am in fact a Jew."
Its almost cartoonish.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 02:48 PM (RsS92)
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That assumption is very, very simple: "we are in a position to dictate terms." That's it.
It doesn't matter how radical and niche your policies are when you can shove them down people's throats no matter what, and those people just have to sit there and take it.
But they can already do that in blue states and cities - their miscalculation was thinking that they could do that nationwide.
It doesn't matter how radical and niche your policies are when you can shove them down people's throats no matter what, and those people just have to sit there and take it.
But they can already do that in blue states and cities - their miscalculation was thinking that they could do that nationwide.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 23, 2024 02:48 PM (uxCna)
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Basically there's John Fetterman criticizing some of the more loopy open borders/pro-crime stuff
the only reason Fetterman is making any kind of sense is because he lives in the Pennsyltucky part of PA and he witnessed first hand the love that red state Pennsylvanians have for Trump.
He just doesn't want to get Bob Casey'd.
the only reason Fetterman is making any kind of sense is because he lives in the Pennsyltucky part of PA and he witnessed first hand the love that red state Pennsylvanians have for Trump.
He just doesn't want to get Bob Casey'd.
Posted by: kallisto at December 23, 2024 02:48 PM (dCxaZ)
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We'd be more inclined to listen to voters and focus groups if they agreed with the experts, but, as things stand, we can't trust them!
Posted by: The DNC at December 23, 2024 02:49 PM (QrkKu)
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>>>"DOC has stripped her of her humanity by taking her from the women's prison, where she was really, truly excelling, and put her in a place that we know will harm her, both physically and emotionally," says ACLU of Washington staff attorney Adrien Leavitt. "She has a history of physical abuse, sexual abuse, harassment, and emotional abuse in the men's prisons. We know that from studies that trans people are at huge risk of all of those things. It's not, sadly, like we're not guessing about whether that will happen to Amber, because we know it's already happened to her."
Uhhh.....good?
Uhhh.....good?
Posted by: Dr. T at December 23, 2024 02:49 PM (jGGMD)
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One additional impetus after 1988- GENERALLY, the country would not reward a party with the presidency after 2 terms in the office.
When that happened in 1988, the Democrats couldn't pretend things were working as normal.
I say this because we're going to get only one more term of Trump but HOPEFULLY 2 terms of Vance.
At that point, even after 12 years, the Democrats can still tell themselves it was just a fluke because of the term-limited Trump and they'll get their turn again after Vance serves two terms because most presidents get re-elected. They could then go at least one more election cycle without changing.
So we have a real chance for 16 straight years of conservative governance. (And if we don't put some weak-willed Bush-type in at the tail end of that, maybe even 20.)
Honestly, that seems REALLY optimistic, but the Democrats do have that much hubris.
When that happened in 1988, the Democrats couldn't pretend things were working as normal.
I say this because we're going to get only one more term of Trump but HOPEFULLY 2 terms of Vance.
At that point, even after 12 years, the Democrats can still tell themselves it was just a fluke because of the term-limited Trump and they'll get their turn again after Vance serves two terms because most presidents get re-elected. They could then go at least one more election cycle without changing.
So we have a real chance for 16 straight years of conservative governance. (And if we don't put some weak-willed Bush-type in at the tail end of that, maybe even 20.)
Honestly, that seems REALLY optimistic, but the Democrats do have that much hubris.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 23, 2024 02:49 PM (N1DT3)
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The problem is that they have made all of these bizarre policies categorical imperatives, as Kant would call them -- questions of pure good vs. pure evil. There is no possibility of compromise when you've defined something as a categorical imperative, one of the atheists' Ten Commandments.
_________
These are mutually exclusive. Honest atheists cannot logically believe in pure good or evil if a purposeless material universe is all that exists.
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These are mutually exclusive. Honest atheists cannot logically believe in pure good or evil if a purposeless material universe is all that exists.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 23, 2024 02:50 PM (Dm8we)
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67 I'm not at all attracted to AOC, yet it seems to me that she's increasingly framing her little Tic Tocky videos in some kind of super personal, self-consciously erotic way. It's freaking deranged.
I'd like to believe you, I would, but I'm going to need some links so that I can confirm for myself. Pity I don't have TicToc installed, nor will I.
Posted by: Archimedes
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There are two problems with links: Too few people provide them and two few people click them.
I'd like to believe you, I would, but I'm going to need some links so that I can confirm for myself. Pity I don't have TicToc installed, nor will I.
Posted by: Archimedes
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There are two problems with links: Too few people provide them and two few people click them.
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others _ at December 23, 2024 02:50 PM (kquDM)
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Bingo. No national Democratic politician dares say that men can't get pregnant.
The perfect example was the supreme court justice being asked if she could define a woman. She punted. It was one of the most clear examples of desperately looking for some answer that wouldn't upset her ideology but also avoided the inevitable logical conflict.
EVERYONE makes fun of that moment, its a joke everywhere.
The perfect example was the supreme court justice being asked if she could define a woman. She punted. It was one of the most clear examples of desperately looking for some answer that wouldn't upset her ideology but also avoided the inevitable logical conflict.
EVERYONE makes fun of that moment, its a joke everywhere.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 02:50 PM (RsS92)
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As I said before, the Democraps' fetishistic obsession with these DEI and "elite" luxury concerns has nothing to do with voters. It has to do with donors.
This is about me, isn't it?
This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: The Transgender Pritzker! at December 23, 2024 02:50 PM (uxCna)
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Clinton was no "moderate", just a bumbling climber who was a chameleon. His thundering victory (42% of popular vote) in 1992 was the result of a listless weird Bush campaign, massive disillusionment with the GOP, and the peeling off of 20% of the vote by a third party candidate mining that disillusionment.
Clinton was floundering after a horrible first few months and then capped it off with the HillaryCare debacle, after which that pathetic figure was burbling "um, the president is STILL relevant!" at a press conference. He got over-ridden on vetoes of welfare reform (not to worry! Obama simply vaporized those laws with policies and EOs in minutes, years later, even though the reform was a great success).
A bubble economy based on a once-in-lifetime innovation cycle (internet) rendered re-election a foregone conclusion, as there was little actual interest in the election. Also because end of Cold War had reduced overall interest in national elections.
Clinton was floundering after a horrible first few months and then capped it off with the HillaryCare debacle, after which that pathetic figure was burbling "um, the president is STILL relevant!" at a press conference. He got over-ridden on vetoes of welfare reform (not to worry! Obama simply vaporized those laws with policies and EOs in minutes, years later, even though the reform was a great success).
A bubble economy based on a once-in-lifetime innovation cycle (internet) rendered re-election a foregone conclusion, as there was little actual interest in the election. Also because end of Cold War had reduced overall interest in national elections.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 23, 2024 02:51 PM (1m82a)
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Hell, look at the Reform Party in England. Best year in decades last year...and it gets 4 seats. 4.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 02:43 PM (4LF+x)
Part of that is the way England conducts their elections, where you vote for the Party and not the candidate. It makes it almost impossible for a party to get any seats at all until they start to get 30% or 40% of the total vote. On the other hand there are setups like the Netherlands, which make it easier for 20 parties to get in.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 02:43 PM (4LF+x)
Part of that is the way England conducts their elections, where you vote for the Party and not the candidate. It makes it almost impossible for a party to get any seats at all until they start to get 30% or 40% of the total vote. On the other hand there are setups like the Netherlands, which make it easier for 20 parties to get in.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 23, 2024 02:52 PM (wyMQY)
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That assumption is very, very simple: "we are in a position to dictate terms." That's it.
Right, they figured they had it sewn up, and now they can go full tilt without any consequences. Heck, I thought they had as well. They were in full dictator mode, but without the power base to lock it in.
Right, they figured they had it sewn up, and now they can go full tilt without any consequences. Heck, I thought they had as well. They were in full dictator mode, but without the power base to lock it in.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 02:52 PM (RsS92)
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The majority of Americans are Constitutional Conservatives whether they know it or not but they are too easily uninformed and too easily ill-informed.
True, but given the death spiral of the American media, it might be possible to better inform them.
True, but given the death spiral of the American media, it might be possible to better inform them.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 23, 2024 02:52 PM (xCA6C)
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"The majority of Americans are Constitutional Conservatives whether they know it or not but they are too easily uninformed and too easily ill-informed.
Posted by: Braenyard "
I would replace "easily" with "willfully".
Posted by: Braenyard "
I would replace "easily" with "willfully".
Posted by: eleven at December 23, 2024 02:52 PM (iziT8)
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These are mutually exclusive. Honest atheists cannot logically believe in pure good or evil if a purposeless material universe is all that exists.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 23, 2024 02:50 PM (Dm8we)
This presupposes the existence of "honest atheists."
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 23, 2024 02:50 PM (Dm8we)
This presupposes the existence of "honest atheists."
Posted by: Dr. T at December 23, 2024 02:52 PM (jGGMD)
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You can't escape making identify politics your bailiwick if your entire make-up is predicated on niche groups placing their own personal identity above all else. There are niche groups of influence within the Democrat party that are diametrically opposed to each other's life views. That's how you end up with no substance in a presidential campaign while focusing entirely on the negatives of your opponent. For example, take the Democrat message to Michigan vs. Philadelphia on Gaza and Israel. Two diametrically opposed positions catering to identity politics in both cases. It erodes any integrity, honesty or credibility.
Add to that the discovery that a vast majority of those negatives of the opponent were made up (and obviously so). The Democrats have become the party of name callers, and finger pointers because they can't afford to focus internally. Their narcissistic and self-important tendencies won't allow them to recognize this inevitable failure going forward.
Add to that the discovery that a vast majority of those negatives of the opponent were made up (and obviously so). The Democrats have become the party of name callers, and finger pointers because they can't afford to focus internally. Their narcissistic and self-important tendencies won't allow them to recognize this inevitable failure going forward.
Posted by: Orson at December 23, 2024 02:53 PM (dIske)
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"Kamala: 'You suck, follow me, I'm a woman POC'"
Most of Kamala's success was because she sucked Willie ... that was pretty much her entry, then she was First Indian, then First Black VP ... sucking and DEI ... not very convincing achievements to voters.
Most of Kamala's success was because she sucked Willie ... that was pretty much her entry, then she was First Indian, then First Black VP ... sucking and DEI ... not very convincing achievements to voters.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 23, 2024 02:53 PM (Cus5s)
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The majority of Americans are Constitutional Conservatives whether they know it or not but they are too easily uninformed and too easily ill-informed.
True, but given the death spiral of the American media, it might be possible to better inform them.
Either that, or everyone will just retreat to their ideological monocultures, never hearing anything but hooray for our side.
True, but given the death spiral of the American media, it might be possible to better inform them.
Either that, or everyone will just retreat to their ideological monocultures, never hearing anything but hooray for our side.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 23, 2024 02:53 PM (xCA6C)
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Some won't like me saying this but Trump pushed and pushed the Democrats and Media (birm) into the little corner they wanted to own so badly. He confidently openly staked out position after position that blanketed issues where the only disagreement was essentially insanity and they chowed down on the hook every single time.
Hence where we and they are right now.
And Republicans can't WAIT to undo it all by being their usual fucktard selves that every normal person hates.
Hence where we and they are right now.
And Republicans can't WAIT to undo it all by being their usual fucktard selves that every normal person hates.
Posted by: ... at December 23, 2024 02:54 PM (K1FQ5)
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Right, they figured they had it sewn up, and now they can go full tilt without any consequences. Heck, I thought they had as well. They were in full dictator mode, but without the power base to lock it in.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 02:52 PM (RsS92)
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That remains to be seen.
Their power base is not the electorate, it's the administrative state, the command heights positions in industry, academia and various niches. It is not at all apparent that this power base will be disrupted. It *could* be, but it isn't known yet. All that is known is that they couldn't or wouldn't defend the appearance of popularity (my bet is on the latter, but that is course speculation).
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 02:52 PM (RsS92)
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That remains to be seen.
Their power base is not the electorate, it's the administrative state, the command heights positions in industry, academia and various niches. It is not at all apparent that this power base will be disrupted. It *could* be, but it isn't known yet. All that is known is that they couldn't or wouldn't defend the appearance of popularity (my bet is on the latter, but that is course speculation).
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 02:54 PM (HnUIn)
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>>>he lives in the Pennsyltucky part of PA and he witnessed first hand the love that red state Pennsylvanians have for Trump.
He just doesn't want to get Bob Casey'd.
Posted by: kallisto
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Still amazed at his physical recovery. Speaks well of our medical science, our body's ability to heal and God.
He just doesn't want to get Bob Casey'd.
Posted by: kallisto
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Still amazed at his physical recovery. Speaks well of our medical science, our body's ability to heal and God.
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others _ at December 23, 2024 02:54 PM (kquDM)
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Yogi Berra and Winston Wolfe both had relevant advice on the topic of this post.
And Mark Twain had a relevant quote on premature death notices.
And the snippets of focus group response contain as much horrifying and disastrous signs as they do hopeful ones.
And Mark Twain had a relevant quote on premature death notices.
And the snippets of focus group response contain as much horrifying and disastrous signs as they do hopeful ones.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 23, 2024 02:54 PM (1m82a)
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Honest atheists cannot logically believe in pure good or evil if a purposeless material universe is all that exists.
Most people raised in western culture have a lot of presuppositions that are based in Judeo-Christian ideas, even if they are unaware of it and reject them in theory. So we all cling to concepts of good and evil and certain concepts of existence that may be at odds with our stated ideology.
Most people raised in western culture have a lot of presuppositions that are based in Judeo-Christian ideas, even if they are unaware of it and reject them in theory. So we all cling to concepts of good and evil and certain concepts of existence that may be at odds with our stated ideology.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 02:54 PM (RsS92)
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I know I've already said this and in fact said it already just today, but I can't see how Democrats can throw off their (Satanic) religious dogmas based on one lost election.
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Thry need to double-down and make Atomic Tranny DogBoy the face of the party and 2028 nominee. Maybe add Hunter Biden as the Veep nominee ...
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Thry need to double-down and make Atomic Tranny DogBoy the face of the party and 2028 nominee. Maybe add Hunter Biden as the Veep nominee ...
Posted by: ShainS -- President-Elect Musk will appoint Vivek to Speaker Of The House! at December 23, 2024 02:55 PM (/Pivs)
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Wier smarrt
Posted by: Dems at December 23, 2024 02:55 PM (VE6XX)
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Was Joe Biden a gift from God to America???
You may see WTF, what are you smoking Dude !!!!!!!
Yes, there has been pain and suffering, but did God prepare us to rid the USA of this Bilge called the Democrat/Socialist/Communist Party ???
You may see WTF, what are you smoking Dude !!!!!!!
Yes, there has been pain and suffering, but did God prepare us to rid the USA of this Bilge called the Democrat/Socialist/Communist Party ???
Posted by: Buster Hymandd at December 23, 2024 02:56 PM (lgj4s)
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A high caliber woman? Picky Packy or whatever her name is?
Did anyone really need a focus group to tell them Democrats have gone insane?
Did anyone really need a focus group to tell them Democrats have gone insane?
Posted by: JackStraw at December 23, 2024 02:56 PM (LkLld)
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Clinton was floundering after a horrible first few months and then capped it off with the HillaryCare debacle, after which that pathetic figure was burbling "um, the president is STILL relevant!" at a press conference. He got over-ridden on vetoes of welfare reform (not to worry! Obama simply vaporized those laws with policies and EOs in minutes, years later, even though the reform was a great success).
A bubble economy based on a once-in-lifetime innovation cycle (internet) rendered re-election a foregone conclusion, as there was little actual interest in the election. Also because end of Cold War had reduced overall interest in national elections.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 23, 2024 02:51 PM
bill clinton got reelected because of newt gingrich and the contract with America. That legislation made clinton shift to the right. Without that I doubt clinton would have won again in 96.
A bubble economy based on a once-in-lifetime innovation cycle (internet) rendered re-election a foregone conclusion, as there was little actual interest in the election. Also because end of Cold War had reduced overall interest in national elections.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 23, 2024 02:51 PM
bill clinton got reelected because of newt gingrich and the contract with America. That legislation made clinton shift to the right. Without that I doubt clinton would have won again in 96.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 23, 2024 02:56 PM (Rcnd3)
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The decline of the Democratic party is overstated.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
Overstated, maybe. But there is iron in those words of decline.
Posted by: Assistant Chief Five Bears
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
Overstated, maybe. But there is iron in those words of decline.
Posted by: Assistant Chief Five Bears
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 23, 2024 02:56 PM (jHelr)
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Van Jones is getting close to understanding what happened, but still thinks he's on the high IQ team."
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That's because his IQ isn't high enough to realize any different.
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That's because his IQ isn't high enough to realize any different.
Posted by: Azathoth at December 23, 2024 02:56 PM (wb1YC)
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>>Honest atheists cannot logically believe in pure good or evil if a purposeless material universe is all that exists.
That is a bold and poorly formulated assertion.
Pure good and Pure evil are differentiated, how?
That is a bold and poorly formulated assertion.
Pure good and Pure evil are differentiated, how?
Posted by: garrett at December 23, 2024 02:57 PM (j6KoD)
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Electoral success is built on two things
- constituencies
-issues
The Dem constituencies are all nuts, and they are stuck with them and the policies they demand (dei, esg, communism, trans, etc.)
Issues? Well, they seem to have lost gun control and abortion. They tried with open borders but that was a loser from the get-go.
I see this as the real problem. Clinton came out for "safe, legal, and rare" and gun control, school uniforms, etc. It worked mostly because the Cold War was over and he was able to sound moderate on domestic issues while painting the Rs as domestic extremists who were incompetent on economics (thanks Ross Perot!)
So what issues would the "centrist" future Bill Clinton glom onto to make the Dems attractive to independents?
- constituencies
-issues
The Dem constituencies are all nuts, and they are stuck with them and the policies they demand (dei, esg, communism, trans, etc.)
Issues? Well, they seem to have lost gun control and abortion. They tried with open borders but that was a loser from the get-go.
I see this as the real problem. Clinton came out for "safe, legal, and rare" and gun control, school uniforms, etc. It worked mostly because the Cold War was over and he was able to sound moderate on domestic issues while painting the Rs as domestic extremists who were incompetent on economics (thanks Ross Perot!)
So what issues would the "centrist" future Bill Clinton glom onto to make the Dems attractive to independents?
Posted by: Gentlemen, time for a reckoning at December 23, 2024 02:57 PM (Ypu3O)
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An embarrassment of riches.
stratton@StrattonH
.@TonyFabrizioGOP was asked, "What did your data show was your most effective ad against her [Harris]?"
"There were several. Well, first, usually any ad where she was talking, was effective. Using her words. And there were a ton. In fact, there was so much, we couldn’t use all of it.
stratton@StrattonH
.@TonyFabrizioGOP was asked, "What did your data show was your most effective ad against her [Harris]?"
"There were several. Well, first, usually any ad where she was talking, was effective. Using her words. And there were a ton. In fact, there was so much, we couldn’t use all of it.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 23, 2024 02:58 PM (L/fGl)
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So, you're saying our problem is messaging.
Posted by: The Democrats at December 23, 2024 02:58 PM (9yUzE)
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Most people raised in western culture have a lot of presuppositions that are based in Judeo-Christian ideas, even if they are unaware of it and reject them in theory. So we all cling to concepts of good and evil and certain concepts of existence that may be at odds with our stated ideology.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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"We cannot judge of the effects of Atheism from the conduct of persons who have been educated as believers in God and in the midst of a nation which believes in God. If we should ever see a generation of men, especially a generation of Englishmen, to whom the word ‘God’ had no meaning at all, we should get a light upon the subject which might be lurid enough."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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"We cannot judge of the effects of Atheism from the conduct of persons who have been educated as believers in God and in the midst of a nation which believes in God. If we should ever see a generation of men, especially a generation of Englishmen, to whom the word ‘God’ had no meaning at all, we should get a light upon the subject which might be lurid enough."
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 23, 2024 02:58 PM (Dm8we)
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It is not at all apparent that this power base will be disrupted. It *could* be, but it isn't known yet.
I don't think much will or can be done about the deep state bureaucracy. That is a write off, no matter what voting takes place. But the left was certain that they had a lock on voting and culture which they did not.
You know all those game companies and entertainment people who kept attacking their customers? Like Disney calling anyone who thought one of their shows sucked racist and sexist and so on?
They didn't do so because they are idiots who forgot how to run a business. They did so because they thought that they had such a lock on the culture that only a tiny number of loser radical right wingers had a problem with what they were putting out, but had an outsized voice on social media.
They thought they were dealing with furries or LARPers, a tiny splinter of the popuplation, when they were actually dealing with NFL fans or people who like steak. They underestimated the number of people they were insulting and attacking.
The election forced them to stop and reconsider. Trump didn't just win, he won with a large margin of the popular vote.
I don't think much will or can be done about the deep state bureaucracy. That is a write off, no matter what voting takes place. But the left was certain that they had a lock on voting and culture which they did not.
You know all those game companies and entertainment people who kept attacking their customers? Like Disney calling anyone who thought one of their shows sucked racist and sexist and so on?
They didn't do so because they are idiots who forgot how to run a business. They did so because they thought that they had such a lock on the culture that only a tiny number of loser radical right wingers had a problem with what they were putting out, but had an outsized voice on social media.
They thought they were dealing with furries or LARPers, a tiny splinter of the popuplation, when they were actually dealing with NFL fans or people who like steak. They underestimated the number of people they were insulting and attacking.
The election forced them to stop and reconsider. Trump didn't just win, he won with a large margin of the popular vote.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 02:58 PM (RsS92)
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Gingrich was the idea man.
Tom DeLay made it happen.
Tom DeLay made it happen.
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others _ at December 23, 2024 02:58 PM (kquDM)
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I thought the marxists were all about abortion, abortion, abortion. VA statewide elections are in 2025, the abortion card will be played again. Plus the anti-MAGA marketing.
Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at December 23, 2024 02:59 PM (TN5A0)
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So we all cling to concepts of good and evil and certain concepts of existence that may be at odds with our stated ideology.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 02:54 PM (RsS92)
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A society removed several generations from even the concept of God would make The 120 Days of Sodom look like Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm.
So we all cling to concepts of good and evil and certain concepts of existence that may be at odds with our stated ideology.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 02:54 PM (RsS92)
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A society removed several generations from even the concept of God would make The 120 Days of Sodom look like Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 23, 2024 02:59 PM (oULv8)
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So what issues would the "centrist" future Bill Clinton glom onto to make the Dems attractive to independents?
They'll stick with the classics for awhile: racism, sexism, homophobia, and xenophobia.
They'll stick with the classics for awhile: racism, sexism, homophobia, and xenophobia.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 23, 2024 02:59 PM (xCA6C)
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None of this navel gazing is the type of introspection the left really needs to be engaged in.
It sounds like excuses for failure, not a realization nobody except for a small, mentally insane and deeply disturbed segment of society is buying their bullshit.
It sounds like excuses for failure, not a realization nobody except for a small, mentally insane and deeply disturbed segment of society is buying their bullshit.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 23, 2024 02:59 PM (Q4IgG)
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Another point I'll add to my comment above about why Democraps are obsessed with these things voters don't want:
Democraps are The Resistance (TM). Whatever Trump's in favor of, they are violently -- and mindlessly -- against. So if Trump favors doing things that appeal to real actual voters, Democraps are mentally incapable of any reaction other than The Resistance. And conversely, whatever Trump is NOT in favor of, they mindlessly support.
Democraps are The Resistance (TM). Whatever Trump's in favor of, they are violently -- and mindlessly -- against. So if Trump favors doing things that appeal to real actual voters, Democraps are mentally incapable of any reaction other than The Resistance. And conversely, whatever Trump is NOT in favor of, they mindlessly support.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 23, 2024 02:59 PM (iFTx/)
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104 An embarrassment of riches.
stratton@StrattonH
.@TonyFabrizioGOP was asked, "What did your data show was your most effective ad against her [Harris]?"
"There were several. Well, first, usually any ad where she was talking, was effective. Using her words. And there were a ton. In fact, there was so much, we couldn’t use all of it.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 23, 2024 02:58 PM (L/fGl)
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And a lot of Democrats have said things as loopy as Kamala did, just more cleanly.
stratton@StrattonH
.@TonyFabrizioGOP was asked, "What did your data show was your most effective ad against her [Harris]?"
"There were several. Well, first, usually any ad where she was talking, was effective. Using her words. And there were a ton. In fact, there was so much, we couldn’t use all of it.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 23, 2024 02:58 PM (L/fGl)
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And a lot of Democrats have said things as loopy as Kamala did, just more cleanly.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 02:59 PM (4LF+x)
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So what issues would the "centrist" future Bill Clinton glom onto to make the Dems attractive to independents?
They'll stick with the classics for awhile: racism, sexism, homophobia, and xenophobia.
And envy, of course.
They'll stick with the classics for awhile: racism, sexism, homophobia, and xenophobia.
And envy, of course.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 23, 2024 03:00 PM (xCA6C)
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"So, you're saying our problem is messaging.
Posted by: The Democrats "
Hah....
yeah that's the ticket.
Posted by: The Democrats "
Hah....
yeah that's the ticket.
Posted by: eleven at December 23, 2024 03:00 PM (iziT8)
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If we should ever see a generation of men, especially a generation of Englishmen, to whom the word ‘God’ had no meaning at all, we should get a light upon the subject which might be lurid enough."
We got several examples of that in the 20th century, resulting on several hundred million corpses.
We got several examples of that in the 20th century, resulting on several hundred million corpses.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 03:00 PM (RsS92)
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"All that's left is Pelosi, AOC, Hakeem Jeffries, and a ton of Democrats united only by anti-white, anti-male, anti-straight, anti-Christian hatred."
Ace, you left out three factors that unite Democrat politicians:
-Govt-paid abortion through the 4th Trimester (yes, 4th)
-Unlimited illegal immigration forever
-No questions asked amnesty and citizenship for every illegal. including murdering gang members and Islamic terrorists
All are losers with a majority of citizens.
Ace, you left out three factors that unite Democrat politicians:
-Govt-paid abortion through the 4th Trimester (yes, 4th)
-Unlimited illegal immigration forever
-No questions asked amnesty and citizenship for every illegal. including murdering gang members and Islamic terrorists
All are losers with a majority of citizens.
Posted by: Gref at December 23, 2024 03:01 PM (aBgBM)
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But I sucked my way to the top.
Posted by: Just the punchline at December 23, 2024 03:01 PM (dg+HA)
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About a year ago I told an atheist that my belief was we are fallen creatures in a fallen world and she vehemently argued that no, actually "people are basically good". Within two minutes she is telling me that we are destroying the planet, raping the world, and killing all the animals.
I told her it sounds like she's describing fallen creatures, one that destroys it's own habitat, selfishly encroaches on nature's bounty and drags it down with us. Said it sounds like we agree way more than she thought.
Didn't sit well with her but she had no argument. And this Karen is never short of an argument.
I told her it sounds like she's describing fallen creatures, one that destroys it's own habitat, selfishly encroaches on nature's bounty and drags it down with us. Said it sounds like we agree way more than she thought.
Didn't sit well with her but she had no argument. And this Karen is never short of an argument.
Posted by: ... at December 23, 2024 03:01 PM (K1FQ5)
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Democrats think this effete "Never got picked for dodgeball" pussy boy is going to be their "Bro Whisperer" who will win back the young male voters they've been hemorrhaging.
Try not to laugh.
https://is.gd/pKqwdj
Try not to laugh.
https://is.gd/pKqwdj
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 23, 2024 03:01 PM (9yUzE)
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Funny that the focus groups didn't even bring up the commutations of sentences of murder.
I imagine there was a time limit, after all.
I imagine there was a time limit, after all.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 23, 2024 03:01 PM (WXNFJ)
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Honest atheists cannot logically believe in pure good or evil if a purposeless material universe is all that exists.
That is a bold and poorly formulated assertion.
Pure good and Pure evil are differentiated, how?
Posted by: garrett
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That proposition has been around forever. If a person has a taste for it, and thinks the state won't catch him, why not lie, cheat, rape and steal your way through life if it all comes to the same thing in the end?
That is a bold and poorly formulated assertion.
Pure good and Pure evil are differentiated, how?
Posted by: garrett
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That proposition has been around forever. If a person has a taste for it, and thinks the state won't catch him, why not lie, cheat, rape and steal your way through life if it all comes to the same thing in the end?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 23, 2024 03:01 PM (Dm8we)
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Dems aren't fixing themselves. Jefferies is still going on and on about "extreme MAGA Republicans" like it's October.
Posted by: the dandy at December 23, 2024 03:01 PM (L+5ng)
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104 An embarrassment of riches.
stratton@StrattonH
.@TonyFabrizioGOP was asked, "What did your data show was your most effective ad against her [Harris]?"
"There were several. Well, first, usually any ad where she was talking, was effective. Using her words. And there were a ton. In fact, there was so much, we couldn’t use all of it.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 23, 2024 02:58 PM (L/fGl)
KAMALAS'S MOUTH GIVETH,
AND KAMALA'S MOUTH TAKETH AWAY
stratton@StrattonH
.@TonyFabrizioGOP was asked, "What did your data show was your most effective ad against her [Harris]?"
"There were several. Well, first, usually any ad where she was talking, was effective. Using her words. And there were a ton. In fact, there was so much, we couldn’t use all of it.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 23, 2024 02:58 PM (L/fGl)
KAMALAS'S MOUTH GIVETH,
AND KAMALA'S MOUTH TAKETH AWAY
Posted by: Hillary F. Clinton at December 23, 2024 03:01 PM (wtvvX)
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"the massive hole Dems are in"?
Harris was a truly, truly awful candidate and was burdened by the horrible results of the Biden regime and yet the popular vote difference was only 77.3 million to 75.0 million.
If 60k votes out of 7 million in PA had gone the other way, Harris wins that state. That's not much. Jill Stein and Chase Oliver together got more than 60k votes in PA.
If they simply had a better candidate or Biden had been less awful the Dems would have won.
Harris was a truly, truly awful candidate and was burdened by the horrible results of the Biden regime and yet the popular vote difference was only 77.3 million to 75.0 million.
If 60k votes out of 7 million in PA had gone the other way, Harris wins that state. That's not much. Jill Stein and Chase Oliver together got more than 60k votes in PA.
If they simply had a better candidate or Biden had been less awful the Dems would have won.
Posted by: Buzzkill Guy at December 23, 2024 03:02 PM (wGKng)
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Clinton did no shift to the "right", the interest in the '96 election was so low that the WaPo and NYT were doing stories on the topic (and they were accurate), Dole was a weak challenger, and the economy was booming. In both foreign and domestic policy Clinton was a bumbling disaster, by any serious standards. His administration marked the firm transition to sub-mediocre personnel in the post-Cold War era. That they weren't as ludicrously bad as those under Obama and Biden was only because the pool only got much worse as time went on.
That he didn't/couldn't block the economic progress of the digital revolution is not an accomplishment.
That he didn't/couldn't block the economic progress of the digital revolution is not an accomplishment.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 23, 2024 03:02 PM (1m82a)
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Van Jones is only partially correct. Progressives are not high IQ, in the main. Overall they are unthinking robotic homunculi capable only of repeating the simple programming poured into their empty heads. They have a limited loop of NPC slogans and statements they can run, and melt down in the presence of contradictory evidence or challenges to the soundness of the reasoning they recite. But they are also smug, supercilious and smarmy. And they absolutely would, given the chance, take all us "flyover country" rubes to re-education camps or have us sent to the showers.
Posted by: Low IQ, Low EQ, Low humanity at December 23, 2024 03:02 PM (UKe2c)
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We got several examples of that in the 20th century, resulting on several hundred million corpses.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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That quote was from 1881.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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That quote was from 1881.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 23, 2024 03:03 PM (Dm8we)
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Today on an order by the Governor of New York and Mayor of NYC the woman who was burned to death by the illegal immigrant will be charged with starting an illegal fire on the NY Subway system.
Although this woman has passed away the City and State of New York will fine the relatives and/or her family with the crime of an unauthorized fire within the NY Subway System.
Although this woman has passed away the City and State of New York will fine the relatives and/or her family with the crime of an unauthorized fire within the NY Subway System.
Posted by: From the Office of Mayor of NYC at December 23, 2024 03:03 PM (Sg9Zr)
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The way Trump repeatedly deployed her "joyful" cackle over scenes of burning, rioting and destruction was such a masterstroke I am beyond words about it.
They famously teach this in martial arts. You use the opponent's strength as a weapon against them.
They famously teach this in martial arts. You use the opponent's strength as a weapon against them.
Posted by: ... at December 23, 2024 03:03 PM (K1FQ5)
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>>That proposition has been around forever. If a person has a taste for it, and thinks the state won't catch him, why not lie, cheat, rape and steal your way through life if it all comes to the same thing in the end?
So it is only the possibility of Eternal Reward or Damnation that governs Morality?
So it is only the possibility of Eternal Reward or Damnation that governs Morality?
Posted by: garrett at December 23, 2024 03:03 PM (j6KoD)
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Now why would anyone advise Democrats to wise up and present a better policy platform? The world deserves a break from them for at least a generation. Their moves to the centre are always fake and a camouflage for the rot underneath.
Posted by: Decaf at December 23, 2024 03:04 PM (unUNN)
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A society removed several generations from even the concept of God would make The 120 Days of Sodom look like Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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No society has ever existed for several generations without the concept of God.
A society removed several generations from even the concept of God would make The 120 Days of Sodom look like Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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No society has ever existed for several generations without the concept of God.
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others _ at December 23, 2024 03:04 PM (kquDM)
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Yeah yeah Harris was an awful candidate, Joe was an awful candidate, Hillary was an awful candidate.
Nothing to do with Trump. Don't believe your lying eyes. Ted Cruz could haved easily beat them all and probably by more because he's not icky like Trump.
Nothing to do with Trump. Don't believe your lying eyes. Ted Cruz could haved easily beat them all and probably by more because he's not icky like Trump.
Posted by: ... at December 23, 2024 03:04 PM (K1FQ5)
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What BuzzKill guy just said.
Not that it matters, but I have been baffled from the outset by the triumphalism surrounding Trump's squeaker against an historically bad candidate in one of the most favorable (for the challenger) environments in modern history. And this ain't saying the glass is 1/10,000th empty. Just looking at the situation without sports-fan tendencies.
Not that it matters, but I have been baffled from the outset by the triumphalism surrounding Trump's squeaker against an historically bad candidate in one of the most favorable (for the challenger) environments in modern history. And this ain't saying the glass is 1/10,000th empty. Just looking at the situation without sports-fan tendencies.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 23, 2024 03:05 PM (1m82a)
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Lolgf
Posted by: Lizzy at December 23, 2024 03:05 PM (Hkcdp)
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So it is only the possibility of Eternal Reward or Damnation that governs Morality?
Posted by: garrett
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Yes. As Dostoyevsky said, without God, all is permitted.
I'm an agnostic, by the way.
Posted by: garrett
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Yes. As Dostoyevsky said, without God, all is permitted.
I'm an agnostic, by the way.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 23, 2024 03:05 PM (Dm8we)
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What's a Dean Withers?
Posted by: I gotta ask at December 23, 2024 03:05 PM (dg+HA)
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KAMALAS'S MOUTH GIVETH,
AND KAMALA'S MOUTH TAKETH AWAY
Posted by: Hillary F. Clinton
Oh come now.
AND KAMALA'S MOUTH TAKETH AWAY
Posted by: Hillary F. Clinton
Oh come now.
Posted by: Kamala Harris at December 23, 2024 03:06 PM (WXNFJ)
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Great T-Shirt at a Trumps inauguration
'You suck, follow me' is not as persuasive as liberals think."
-Van Jones
'You suck, follow me' is not as persuasive as liberals think."
-Van Jones
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at December 23, 2024 03:06 PM (wDJaI)
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They thought they were dealing with furries or LARPers, a tiny splinter of the popuplation, when they were actually dealing with NFL fans or people who like steak. They underestimated the number of people they were insulting and attacking.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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I don't think so. Having worked in corporations, I understand that personnel is policy and all you need to do is fill a couple key slots with activists, create an incentive structure that rewards activism, and they do not give a shit about "customers."
Those that do just go along for the pay and bonuses. Most don't care if company crashes since they will just move on.
This was driven by them ignoring the market, not by them discounting or misjudging it.
We give them too much credit to think that they were working to sell a product to a new market. They were raping the companies (and being paid) while pushing an ideology they knew was a minority opinion.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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I don't think so. Having worked in corporations, I understand that personnel is policy and all you need to do is fill a couple key slots with activists, create an incentive structure that rewards activism, and they do not give a shit about "customers."
Those that do just go along for the pay and bonuses. Most don't care if company crashes since they will just move on.
This was driven by them ignoring the market, not by them discounting or misjudging it.
We give them too much credit to think that they were working to sell a product to a new market. They were raping the companies (and being paid) while pushing an ideology they knew was a minority opinion.
Posted by: Gentlemen, time for a reckoning at December 23, 2024 03:06 PM (Ypu3O)
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So it is only the possibility of Eternal Reward or Damnation that governs Morality?
Posted by: garrett at December 23, 2024 03:03 PM (j6KoD)
Many things govern mortality. For example a lot of people feel this thing called guilt, outside any authority or punishment.
And just like rules don't always stop people neither do feelings of remorse. But they all help.
Posted by: garrett at December 23, 2024 03:03 PM (j6KoD)
Many things govern mortality. For example a lot of people feel this thing called guilt, outside any authority or punishment.
And just like rules don't always stop people neither do feelings of remorse. But they all help.
Posted by: ... at December 23, 2024 03:07 PM (K1FQ5)
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Mortality??? Thanks auto bloody fucktard correct!
Posted by: ... at December 23, 2024 03:07 PM (K1FQ5)
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We give them too much credit to think that they were working to sell a product to a new market.
I don't think they believed they were trying to sell to a new market. I think they believed they were selling to the existing, majority market. I think they believed their own bullcrap and thought this was what people honestly wanted. Everyone they worked with thought so, or knew better than to object. Everyone they lived around agreed. Everyone who was anyone thought so.
I don't think they believed they were trying to sell to a new market. I think they believed they were selling to the existing, majority market. I think they believed their own bullcrap and thought this was what people honestly wanted. Everyone they worked with thought so, or knew better than to object. Everyone they lived around agreed. Everyone who was anyone thought so.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 03:08 PM (RsS92)
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Don't be fooled by Fetterman. They're still voting as a bloc and peeling off squishy R's to give their guy Johnson the W.
Replacement of McCarthy with Johnson accomplished nothing.
It is probably why we lost seats. I really wanted Gaetz (and others) to hold fast. He didn't.
Replacement of McCarthy with Johnson accomplished nothing.
It is probably why we lost seats. I really wanted Gaetz (and others) to hold fast. He didn't.
Posted by: torabora at December 23, 2024 03:08 PM (9gcdx)
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"Harris was a truly, truly awful candidate and was burdened by the horrible results of the Biden regime and yet the popular vote difference was only 77.3 million to 75.0 million."
Buzzkill guy is correct.
As awful as Democrats are, Republicans are still horrible. Pennsylvania was only won because a gay hairdresser - on his own and with no party support - went out and did the ground work of registering voters and getting them to vote that the GOP refuses to do because it's easier to pay consultants to make commercials about "tax and spend Democrats."
Buzzkill guy is correct.
As awful as Democrats are, Republicans are still horrible. Pennsylvania was only won because a gay hairdresser - on his own and with no party support - went out and did the ground work of registering voters and getting them to vote that the GOP refuses to do because it's easier to pay consultants to make commercials about "tax and spend Democrats."
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 23, 2024 03:08 PM (9yUzE)
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Pure good and Pure evil are differentiated, how?
Posted by: garrett
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It's like porn. You know it when you see it.
Posted by: garrett
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It's like porn. You know it when you see it.
Posted by: ... at December 23, 2024 03:09 PM (K1FQ5)
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In four years, I see the following people running for the dem nomination:
AOC
Tim Kaine
Mike Pence
Hochul
Newsome
Whitmer
Kamala
1-2 GOPe to be named later
AOC
Tim Kaine
Mike Pence
Hochul
Newsome
Whitmer
Kamala
1-2 GOPe to be named later
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 23, 2024 03:09 PM (VNX3d)
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Smug, Supercilious and Smarmy appeared with Peter, Paul and Mary at the Brattleboro Folk Fest in 1984.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 23, 2024 03:09 PM (fs1hN)
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As awful as Democrats are, Republicans are still horrible.
And while the Democrats are aimless and leaderless, Republicans have a single strong, central leader. Trump is calling the shots. There's nobody even on the bench for the Democrats.
And while the Democrats are aimless and leaderless, Republicans have a single strong, central leader. Trump is calling the shots. There's nobody even on the bench for the Democrats.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 03:10 PM (RsS92)
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'Trump should tell the bureaucracy that anyone who contributes to Biden and his destruction of the USA will be outed.'
That would be so great.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 23, 2024 02:39 PM (3wi/L)
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I thought this was too good to leave on the old thread.
That would be so great.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 23, 2024 02:39 PM (3wi/L)
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I thought this was too good to leave on the old thread.
Posted by: Decaf at December 23, 2024 03:10 PM (unUNN)
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What BuzzKill guy just said.
Not that it matters, but I have been baffled from the outset by the triumphalism surrounding Trump's squeaker against an historically bad candidate in one of the most favorable (for the challenger) environments in modern history. And this ain't saying the glass is 1/10,000th empty. Just looking at the situation without sports-fan tendencies.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 23, 2024 03:05 PM (1m82a)
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Trump did in fact win by a landslide given the highly partisan and fractured population. It wasn't just 60k in PA. It was also MI, WI, AZ, NV, etc. Having a candidate win ALL swing states in this day and age is a landslide. He also crushed it beyond expectations in red states and made it closer in blue states (NJ).
Put simply, Trump crushed it. Although Biden and Kumswala sucked, what better candidate did they have?
Now don't get me wrong: I think all of this is tenuous as everything in politics is. I don't think we should count on anything in the future. We have to continue to fight. We have to keep the winning going.
Not that it matters, but I have been baffled from the outset by the triumphalism surrounding Trump's squeaker against an historically bad candidate in one of the most favorable (for the challenger) environments in modern history. And this ain't saying the glass is 1/10,000th empty. Just looking at the situation without sports-fan tendencies.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 23, 2024 03:05 PM (1m82a)
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Trump did in fact win by a landslide given the highly partisan and fractured population. It wasn't just 60k in PA. It was also MI, WI, AZ, NV, etc. Having a candidate win ALL swing states in this day and age is a landslide. He also crushed it beyond expectations in red states and made it closer in blue states (NJ).
Put simply, Trump crushed it. Although Biden and Kumswala sucked, what better candidate did they have?
Now don't get me wrong: I think all of this is tenuous as everything in politics is. I don't think we should count on anything in the future. We have to continue to fight. We have to keep the winning going.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 23, 2024 03:10 PM (iFTx/)
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@147 ... wait, Scott Presler's a hairdresser?
Well, Harry Truman was a haberdasher, so maybe there's something to that.
Well, Harry Truman was a haberdasher, so maybe there's something to that.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 23, 2024 03:10 PM (73voq)
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Pure good and Pure evil are differentiated, how?
Posted by: garrett
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It's like porn. You know it when you see it.
Posted by: ...
By their fruits, you will know them. Or words to that effect.
Not exactly a new idea, I know.
Posted by: garrett
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It's like porn. You know it when you see it.
Posted by: ...
By their fruits, you will know them. Or words to that effect.
Not exactly a new idea, I know.
Posted by: Brother Tim, Keeper of the Tim Continuum at December 23, 2024 03:10 PM (OUMaO)
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New research shows the massive hole Dems are in
Brain read that as "New Research shows the Massive aholes Dems are"...
Brain read that as "New Research shows the Massive aholes Dems are"...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 23, 2024 03:11 PM (ynpvh)
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Any way you slice it, Bill Clinton will inadvertently be a big part of Trump's removal of illegal immigrants. Clinton signed into law the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (IIRIRA), section 302. This provides the ability to do expedited removals. None of this waiting around for 3 or 4 years for a hearing. If the illegal immigrant entered illegally, and isn't able to show persecution in their country of origin, then off they go.
We should thank Biden for providing the impression that all was honkey-dorey with their arrival, because instead of just melting into the landscape, these illegals felt emboldened to provide their names and get a hearing date. So, now it's just a scavenger hunt.
We should thank Biden for providing the impression that all was honkey-dorey with their arrival, because instead of just melting into the landscape, these illegals felt emboldened to provide their names and get a hearing date. So, now it's just a scavenger hunt.
Posted by: Orson at December 23, 2024 03:11 PM (dIske)
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As awful as Democrats are, Republicans are still horrible.
And while the Democrats are aimless and leaderless, Republicans have a single strong, central leader. Trump is calling the shots. There's nobody even on the bench for the Democrats.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 03:10 PM (RsS92)
__________
"Fuck you!"
-- Pete Bootyjuice
And while the Democrats are aimless and leaderless, Republicans have a single strong, central leader. Trump is calling the shots. There's nobody even on the bench for the Democrats.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 03:10 PM (RsS92)
__________
"Fuck you!"
-- Pete Bootyjuice
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 23, 2024 03:11 PM (iFTx/)
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153 Now don't get me wrong: I think all of this is tenuous as everything in politics is. I don't think we should count on anything in the future. We have to continue to fight. We have to keep the winning going.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 23, 2024 03:10 PM (iFTx/)
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Have to continue the fight for election integrity.
It just took literally hundreds of thousands of poll watchers in the swing states.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 23, 2024 03:10 PM (iFTx/)
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Have to continue the fight for election integrity.
It just took literally hundreds of thousands of poll watchers in the swing states.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 03:11 PM (4LF+x)
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Walking down the hall one become's lost not know whether it's them that did it or if they should just turn around and say to them that they will be whomever they choose.
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others _ at December 23, 2024 03:11 PM (kquDM)
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re 121: i guess david hogg ain't all he cracked up to be.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 23, 2024 03:11 PM (CWTWj)
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People who think Trump just miraculously won three elections by sheer luck or bad dem candidates or whatever are beyond hopeless at this point.
Eating crayons for lunch type intellect.
Eating crayons for lunch type intellect.
Posted by: Cmonman at December 23, 2024 03:11 PM (Sd5Kb)
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wait, Scott Presler's a hairdresser?
The mechanic's car leaks oil and barely runs. A lot of experts don't apply themselves at home for free LOL
The mechanic's car leaks oil and barely runs. A lot of experts don't apply themselves at home for free LOL
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 03:11 PM (RsS92)
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>>Yes. As Dostoyevsky said, without God, all is permitted.
>I'm an agnostic, by the way.
Though I am familiar with the argument, it has never sat well with me as it ultimately relies on there only being one Religion.
Or, at the very least that ALL Religions comport on the basis of a shared concept of Morality. And that is obviously not the case.
>I'm an agnostic, by the way.
Though I am familiar with the argument, it has never sat well with me as it ultimately relies on there only being one Religion.
Or, at the very least that ALL Religions comport on the basis of a shared concept of Morality. And that is obviously not the case.
Posted by: garrett at December 23, 2024 03:12 PM (j6KoD)
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>>"Harris was a truly, truly awful candidate and was burdened by the horrible results of the Biden regime and yet the popular vote difference was only 77.3 million to 75.0 million."
How many of those 75 million came from Clownafornia while they were still counting weeks after the election?
Trump won all of the swing states. Just because Democrats start off with CA, NY, the west coast states and New England does not mean Harris was close to winning. She never was. Trump had a very convincing win in today's climate.
How many of those 75 million came from Clownafornia while they were still counting weeks after the election?
Trump won all of the swing states. Just because Democrats start off with CA, NY, the west coast states and New England does not mean Harris was close to winning. She never was. Trump had a very convincing win in today's climate.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 23, 2024 03:12 PM (LkLld)
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Their weird dark pagan gods have pronounced that transgenderism is a perfect good not just for everyone but children in particular -- who is mere politician to gainsay what Satan has decreed?
As I wrote in an earlier thread, "Evil can be principled; it's just that those principles are perverse."
As I wrote in an earlier thread, "Evil can be principled; it's just that those principles are perverse."
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 23, 2024 03:13 PM (ynpvh)
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"Fuck you!"
-- Pete Bootyjuice
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He's considering a run for governor of Michigan. My brethren have demonstrated they are more than stupid enough to elect him.
-- Pete Bootyjuice
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He's considering a run for governor of Michigan. My brethren have demonstrated they are more than stupid enough to elect him.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 23, 2024 03:13 PM (9yUzE)
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I don't think they believed they were trying to sell to a new market. I think they believed they were selling to the existing, majority market. I think they believed their own bullcrap and thought this was what people honestly wanted. Everyone they worked with thought so, or knew better than to object. Everyone they lived around agreed. Everyone who was anyone thought so.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Yes, they were activists. But they also knew that a lot of their existing customers hated the woke stuff. I still hold that most of the workers understood that they were making crap and they just didn't care as long as the checks cleared.
But even the deluded minority understood that their existing market disagreed--that is why they hated them. (And don't claim they did not hate their existing customers. Ace has covered this plenty.)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Yes, they were activists. But they also knew that a lot of their existing customers hated the woke stuff. I still hold that most of the workers understood that they were making crap and they just didn't care as long as the checks cleared.
But even the deluded minority understood that their existing market disagreed--that is why they hated them. (And don't claim they did not hate their existing customers. Ace has covered this plenty.)
Posted by: Gentlemen, time for a reckoning at December 23, 2024 03:13 PM (Ypu3O)
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Though I am familiar with the argument, it has never sat well with me as it ultimately relies on there only being one Religion.
No, it simply relies on the idea that without one true absolute objective source of morality its simply a matter of personal whim.
No, it simply relies on the idea that without one true absolute objective source of morality its simply a matter of personal whim.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 03:14 PM (RsS92)
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Ace, I think you are being overly optimistic about the Democrat party. Yes, they are catering to the lunatic fringe, but there is also an imperative that supersedes all of the ideological blather, and that is the pursuit of power.
Everything is subservient to that. And they will quickly return to their basic motivations.
Everything is subservient to that. And they will quickly return to their basic motivations.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2024 03:14 PM (d9fT1)
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There isn't only one religion but there is only one *correct* religion.
What that looks like isn't up to me or you but it's also not up for debate.
Maybe atheism is the correct one. We'll see.
What that looks like isn't up to me or you but it's also not up for debate.
Maybe atheism is the correct one. We'll see.
Posted by: ... at December 23, 2024 03:14 PM (K1FQ5)
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Trump did in fact win by a landslide
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Calling Trump's win a squeaker questions one's perspective.
Trump did in fact win by a landslide
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Calling Trump's win a squeaker questions one's perspective.
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others _ at December 23, 2024 03:15 PM (kquDM)
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They should dig themselves out of this hole. Keep digging, never mind that digging just gets you in deeper.
Posted by: huerfano at December 23, 2024 02:38 PM
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Amy Schumer showing off 40+# nekked on page six.
Posted by: huerfano at December 23, 2024 02:38 PM
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Amy Schumer showing off 40+# nekked on page six.
Posted by: torabora at December 23, 2024 03:15 PM (9gcdx)
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Congresswoman Cori Bush@RepCori
Thank you, @POTUS. The decision to commute the sentences of 37 people on federal death row, including Billie Jerome Allen of St. Louis, is historic.
From day one, we’ve pushed for the commutation of these sentences & an end to the death penalty.
Today’s action has saved lives.
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Billie Jerome Allen and crime partner killed a bank guard during a robbery. They were so astute that they pre-soaked their getaway vehicle in gasoline so they could easily burn it when switching to another vehicle. Unfortunately, they were smoking carelessly and set themselves on fire prior to the switch. A brain like that deserves to be spared.
https://is.gd/xTecvJ
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Thank you, @POTUS. The decision to commute the sentences of 37 people on federal death row, including Billie Jerome Allen of St. Louis, is historic.
From day one, we’ve pushed for the commutation of these sentences & an end to the death penalty.
Today’s action has saved lives.
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Billie Jerome Allen and crime partner killed a bank guard during a robbery. They were so astute that they pre-soaked their getaway vehicle in gasoline so they could easily burn it when switching to another vehicle. Unfortunately, they were smoking carelessly and set themselves on fire prior to the switch. A brain like that deserves to be spared.
https://is.gd/xTecvJ
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Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 23, 2024 03:15 PM (L/fGl)
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The Dems had an advantage in 1988 that they do not enjoy today: a large component of Blue-dog Democrats. Those elements have been successfully purged from the party.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 23, 2024 03:15 PM (CwhoI)
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158 As awful as Democrats are, Republicans are still horrible.
And while the Democrats are aimless and leaderless, Republicans have a single strong, central leader. Trump is calling the shots. There's nobody even on the bench for the Democrats.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 03:10 PM (RsS92)
__________
"Fuck you!"
-- Pete Bootyjuice
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 23, 2024 03:11 PM (iFTx/)
"40 lashes and a night in the hole."
"Yes please!"--Petey Bootyjuice
And while the Democrats are aimless and leaderless, Republicans have a single strong, central leader. Trump is calling the shots. There's nobody even on the bench for the Democrats.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 03:10 PM (RsS92)
__________
"Fuck you!"
-- Pete Bootyjuice
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 23, 2024 03:11 PM (iFTx/)
"40 lashes and a night in the hole."
"Yes please!"--Petey Bootyjuice
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 23, 2024 03:16 PM (ynpvh)
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>>There isn't only one religion but there is only one *correct* religion.
That was a funny bit on South Park.
That was a funny bit on South Park.
Posted by: garrett at December 23, 2024 03:16 PM (j6KoD)
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But no worries, the party braintrust will come up with the answer: Triple down!
Posted by: Ordinary American at December 23, 2024 03:16 PM (UseAb)
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But even the deluded minority understood that their existing market disagreed--that is why they hated them.
No, you misunderstand. I'm not arguing that they didn't hate the customers they were attacking. I'm arguing that they thought this group was a tiny minority that didn't matter. They grossly underestimated the number of people who disagreed with them.
No, you misunderstand. I'm not arguing that they didn't hate the customers they were attacking. I'm arguing that they thought this group was a tiny minority that didn't matter. They grossly underestimated the number of people who disagreed with them.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 03:16 PM (RsS92)
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Though I am familiar with the argument, it has never sat well with me as it ultimately relies on there only being one Religion.
Or, at the very least that ALL Religions comport on the basis of a shared concept of Morality. And that is obviously not the case.
Posted by: garrett
I'm not saying that at all. Any religion which posits an existence of some sort after death, the form of which depends on earthly conduct, will do.
Or, at the very least that ALL Religions comport on the basis of a shared concept of Morality. And that is obviously not the case.
Posted by: garrett
I'm not saying that at all. Any religion which posits an existence of some sort after death, the form of which depends on earthly conduct, will do.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 23, 2024 03:17 PM (Dm8we)
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I thought Scott Presler had worked as a hairdresser before entering politics, but I could be wrong about that.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 23, 2024 03:17 PM (9yUzE)
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Or, at the very least that ALL Religions comport on the basis of a shared concept of Morality. And that is obviously not the case.
Posted by: garrett at December 23, 2024 03:12 PM (j6KoD)
Discard Islam, which is a political philosophy disguised as a religion, and the shared morality of the great religions becomes much closer to consensus.
Posted by: garrett at December 23, 2024 03:12 PM (j6KoD)
Discard Islam, which is a political philosophy disguised as a religion, and the shared morality of the great religions becomes much closer to consensus.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2024 03:17 PM (d9fT1)
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>>Trump did in fact win by a landslide
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>>Calling Trump's win a squeaker questions one's perspective.
Democrats still cheated. They always cheat. They rig the media. They rig debates. They ballot harvest like crazy. They cheat in ways big and small. And they still got schlonged.
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>>Calling Trump's win a squeaker questions one's perspective.
Democrats still cheated. They always cheat. They rig the media. They rig debates. They ballot harvest like crazy. They cheat in ways big and small. And they still got schlonged.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 23, 2024 03:18 PM (LkLld)
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177 >>There isn't only one religion but there is only one *correct* religion.
That was a funny bit on South Park.
Posted by: garrett at December 23, 2024 03:16 PM (j6KoD)
dum dum dum dum dum...
https://youtu.be/Hm3mDatFpNE
That was a funny bit on South Park.
Posted by: garrett at December 23, 2024 03:16 PM (j6KoD)
dum dum dum dum dum...
https://youtu.be/Hm3mDatFpNE
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 23, 2024 03:18 PM (ynpvh)
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>>Discard Islam, which is a political philosophy disguised as a religion, and the shared morality of the great religions becomes much closer to consensus.
Unless we're talking Bacon Cheeseburgers on Fridays.
Unless we're talking Bacon Cheeseburgers on Fridays.
Posted by: garrett at December 23, 2024 03:18 PM (j6KoD)
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A society removed several generations from even the concept of God would make The 120 Days of Sodom look like Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 23, 2024 02:59 PM (oULv
There is no such thing and there never will be.
True God gets replaced with some other idol, but the belief in a mystical power never goes away, it just gets replaced.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 23, 2024 02:59 PM (oULv
There is no such thing and there never will be.
True God gets replaced with some other idol, but the belief in a mystical power never goes away, it just gets replaced.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 23, 2024 03:18 PM (FCbAQ)
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A religion is really whatever set of rules you organize your life around; there need not necessarily be a godhead. Politics and environmentalism fill the need for a religion among many who refuse to believe in a Supreme Being.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 23, 2024 03:19 PM (9yUzE)
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Maybe atheism is the correct one. We'll see.
When you are faced with multiple conflicting ideologies, mutually contradictory, only one of them can be true. All of them might be false.
When you are faced with multiple conflicting ideologies, mutually contradictory, only one of them can be true. All of them might be false.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 03:19 PM (RsS92)
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The liberal fixation on children is evil. When they aren't wanting to kill them in the womb, they are trying to mutilate them after birth, and manipulate their brains and thoughts to become insane.
The liberal fixation on children is evil. When they aren't wanting to kill them in the womb, they are trying to mutilate them after birth, and manipulate their brains and thoughts to become insane.
Posted by: Frank Barone at December 23, 2024 03:19 PM (+oR7L)
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Question for the Horde. (Since journalists can't even write clearly when they are lying.)
Biden commuted the sentences of many death penalty inmates.
Does that just take the death penalty off of the table, or are they now released from jail on the consideration that they have served their time?
Biden commuted the sentences of many death penalty inmates.
Does that just take the death penalty off of the table, or are they now released from jail on the consideration that they have served their time?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 23, 2024 03:19 PM (HlyYF)
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No, you misunderstand. I'm not arguing that they didn't hate the customers they were attacking. I'm arguing that they thought this group was a tiny minority that didn't matter. They grossly underestimated the number of people who disagreed with them.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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OK, I see your point.
Maybe. Still, it is a risky strategy for a going concern to toss their existing customers overboard and I think no non-activist would have tried that. (Well, New Coke and many other examples say that maybe you are right.)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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OK, I see your point.
Maybe. Still, it is a risky strategy for a going concern to toss their existing customers overboard and I think no non-activist would have tried that. (Well, New Coke and many other examples say that maybe you are right.)
Posted by: Gentlemen, time for a reckoning at December 23, 2024 03:19 PM (Ypu3O)
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off, foul sock!!!
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 23, 2024 03:20 PM (wtvvX)
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I would think that any individuals, like aliens from another planet that were independent entities like us and not some borg like collective, wouldn't like being assaulted, stolen from or lied about by other individual aliens.
There is a morality that exists in the universe that we can sense. We didn't make it up. What one does with this information is up to them.
There is a morality that exists in the universe that we can sense. We didn't make it up. What one does with this information is up to them.
Posted by: ... at December 23, 2024 03:20 PM (K1FQ5)
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Or, at the very least that ALL Religions comport on the basis of a shared concept of Morality. And that is obviously not the case.
Posted by: garrett at December 23, 2024 03:12 PM (j6KoD)
Discard Islam, which is a political philosophy disguised as a religion, and the shared morality of the great religions becomes much closer to consensus.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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Didn't CS Lewis make this case in Mere Christianity about all religions? And included Islam?
Posted by: garrett at December 23, 2024 03:12 PM (j6KoD)
Discard Islam, which is a political philosophy disguised as a religion, and the shared morality of the great religions becomes much closer to consensus.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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Didn't CS Lewis make this case in Mere Christianity about all religions? And included Islam?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 23, 2024 03:20 PM (Dm8we)
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145 We give them too much credit to think that they were working to sell a product to a new market.
I don't think they believed they were trying to sell to a new market. I think they believed they were selling to the existing, majority market. I think they believed their own bullcrap and thought this was what people honestly wanted. Everyone they worked with thought so, or knew better than to object. Everyone they lived around agreed. Everyone who was anyone thought so.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 03:08 PM (RsS92)
The Dems work to assemble a majority of voters in each individual close election race by micro-targeting voters with promises and appeals about what they believe is each voter's most important issue. It can work; it has worked. This is why the House didn't change much this time (with cheating assistance). The Dems will continue this strategy. Now they will put still more emphasis on appealing to the Feelz of Women.
I don't think they believed they were trying to sell to a new market. I think they believed they were selling to the existing, majority market. I think they believed their own bullcrap and thought this was what people honestly wanted. Everyone they worked with thought so, or knew better than to object. Everyone they lived around agreed. Everyone who was anyone thought so.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 03:08 PM (RsS92)
The Dems work to assemble a majority of voters in each individual close election race by micro-targeting voters with promises and appeals about what they believe is each voter's most important issue. It can work; it has worked. This is why the House didn't change much this time (with cheating assistance). The Dems will continue this strategy. Now they will put still more emphasis on appealing to the Feelz of Women.
Posted by: Gref at December 23, 2024 03:20 PM (aBgBM)
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190 Question for the Horde. (Since journalists can't even write clearly when they are lying.)
Biden commuted the sentences of many death penalty inmates.
Does that just take the death penalty off of the table, or are they now released from jail on the consideration that they have served their time?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 23, 2024 03:19 PM (HlyYF)
Commuted to Life without parole. Not pardoned.
Biden commuted the sentences of many death penalty inmates.
Does that just take the death penalty off of the table, or are they now released from jail on the consideration that they have served their time?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 23, 2024 03:19 PM (HlyYF)
Commuted to Life without parole. Not pardoned.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 23, 2024 03:21 PM (wtvvX)
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When you are faced with multiple conflicting ideologies, mutually contradictory, only one of them can be true. All of them might be false.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 03:19 PM (RsS92)
Every ideology will be false except the correct one, whether discovered already or not.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 03:19 PM (RsS92)
Every ideology will be false except the correct one, whether discovered already or not.
Posted by: ... at December 23, 2024 03:21 PM (K1FQ5)
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Bulls...
Yeah, like the seen before regrouping of Mark Cuban, 'Van' Jones, and Jon Stewart, now joined by Stephen A. Smith, to appeal to the White, non-managerial working classes.
For the most part, it's who they're listening to on tv today, tomorrow.
Additionally, Americans aged 65 and older make up the largest class of US citizens, representing more than 1 in 6 people in the country. Therefore, the need to keep bumping them out at the top and then moving 'new' Americans into various working tiers is strong.
Yeah, like the seen before regrouping of Mark Cuban, 'Van' Jones, and Jon Stewart, now joined by Stephen A. Smith, to appeal to the White, non-managerial working classes.
For the most part, it's who they're listening to on tv today, tomorrow.
Additionally, Americans aged 65 and older make up the largest class of US citizens, representing more than 1 in 6 people in the country. Therefore, the need to keep bumping them out at the top and then moving 'new' Americans into various working tiers is strong.
Posted by: L - Rooster one day, Feather duster another at December 23, 2024 03:21 PM (NFX2v)
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As awful as Democrats are, Republicans are still horrible. Pennsylvania was only won because a gay hairdresser - on his own and with no party support - went out and did the ground work of registering voters and getting them to vote that the GOP refuses to do because it's easier to pay consultants to make commercials about "tax and spend Democrats."
The GOP defenestrated Ronna McDaniel, and hired Michael Whatley and Lara Trump, who, by all accounts, did a bangup job. But sure, nothing has changed.
The GOP defenestrated Ronna McDaniel, and hired Michael Whatley and Lara Trump, who, by all accounts, did a bangup job. But sure, nothing has changed.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 23, 2024 03:22 PM (xCA6C)
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I'm not saying that at all. Any religion which posits an existence of some sort after death, the form of which depends on earthly conduct, will do.
Right, practically speaking a civilization needs A religious system to build the society around. Its like the skeleton of a culture. It needs to be strong and vital, and have answers to the toughest questions in life, or at least comfort for them. It has to offer a strong understanding of morality. ANY of them will do, to build a civilization around, be it worship of Marduk, or Ra, or Jesus, or Allah.
That is now Dawkins' argument: he recognizes the value of a religious system to create a civilization around.
Right, practically speaking a civilization needs A religious system to build the society around. Its like the skeleton of a culture. It needs to be strong and vital, and have answers to the toughest questions in life, or at least comfort for them. It has to offer a strong understanding of morality. ANY of them will do, to build a civilization around, be it worship of Marduk, or Ra, or Jesus, or Allah.
That is now Dawkins' argument: he recognizes the value of a religious system to create a civilization around.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 03:22 PM (RsS92)
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186 A society removed several generations from even the concept of God would make The 120 Days of Sodom look like Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 23, 2024 02:59 PM (oULv
There is no such thing and there never will be.
True God gets replaced with some other idol, but the belief in a mystical power never goes away, it just gets replaced.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 23, 2024 03:18 PM (FCbAQ)
Even if that belief is in Science!, like the Left supposedly venerates it, as long as the Science! comports with the Left's beliefs...
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 23, 2024 02:59 PM (oULv
There is no such thing and there never will be.
True God gets replaced with some other idol, but the belief in a mystical power never goes away, it just gets replaced.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 23, 2024 03:18 PM (FCbAQ)
Even if that belief is in Science!, like the Left supposedly venerates it, as long as the Science! comports with the Left's beliefs...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 23, 2024 03:22 PM (ynpvh)
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Pure good and Pure evil are differentiated, how?
Posted by: garrett
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It's like porn. You know it when you see it.
Posted by: ...
Yeah, baby!
Posted by: garrett
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It's like porn. You know it when you see it.
Posted by: ...
Yeah, baby!
Posted by: Diddy at December 23, 2024 03:22 PM (L/fGl)
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That is now Dawkins' argument: he recognizes the value of a religious system to create a civilization around.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 03:22 PM (RsS92)
And with that he's probably getting closer to the truth.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 03:22 PM (RsS92)
And with that he's probably getting closer to the truth.
Posted by: ... at December 23, 2024 03:22 PM (K1FQ5)
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Atheism is anarchy.
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others _ at December 23, 2024 03:23 PM (kquDM)
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Commuted to Life without parole. Not pardoned.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 23, 2024 03:21 PM
Thanks, Tex!
Of course, as we have seen in a few states, LWOP can sometimes mean you can be paroled.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 23, 2024 03:21 PM
Thanks, Tex!
Of course, as we have seen in a few states, LWOP can sometimes mean you can be paroled.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 23, 2024 03:23 PM (HlyYF)
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We should thank Biden for providing the impression that all was honkey-dorey with their arrival, because instead of just melting into the landscape, these illegals felt emboldened to provide their names and get a hearing date. So, now it's just a scavenger hunt.
Posted by: Orson at December 23, 2024 03:11 PM (dIske)
California gave over 800,000 illegal aliens driver's licenses. And no PO Boxes allowed.
ICE just needs to get DMV's records and start rounding them up.
Posted by: Orson at December 23, 2024 03:11 PM (dIske)
California gave over 800,000 illegal aliens driver's licenses. And no PO Boxes allowed.
ICE just needs to get DMV's records and start rounding them up.
Posted by: torabora at December 23, 2024 03:23 PM (9gcdx)
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I thought Scott Presler had worked as a hairdresser before entering politics, but I could be wrong about that.
I don't care if he was Liberace's candelabrum polisher; he got results, and is continuing his work.
I don't care if he was Liberace's candelabrum polisher; he got results, and is continuing his work.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 23, 2024 03:23 PM (xCA6C)
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185 >>Discard Islam, which is a political philosophy disguised as a religion, and the shared morality of the great religions becomes much closer to consensus.
It is a triangulation of slavery, cult, and religion, mostly just slavery though.
They are slaves. They have limited freedom but they have to provide funds to Arabia (remember, back in the day most temples made their revenue from pilgrimages), they have to get on their knees to their master 5 times a day, they have to spread their slavery.
Every muslim's ancestors were either raped by a master, or converted not to be killed and raped. What they do to their conquests is what was done to them centuries ago. It is slavery and nothing more.
It is a triangulation of slavery, cult, and religion, mostly just slavery though.
They are slaves. They have limited freedom but they have to provide funds to Arabia (remember, back in the day most temples made their revenue from pilgrimages), they have to get on their knees to their master 5 times a day, they have to spread their slavery.
Every muslim's ancestors were either raped by a master, or converted not to be killed and raped. What they do to their conquests is what was done to them centuries ago. It is slavery and nothing more.
Posted by: Gentlemen, time for a reckoning at December 23, 2024 03:24 PM (Ypu3O)
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"It will take multiple losses before a rebel "centrist" movement can take control of the Democrat Cult again."
- - - - - - - - -
The problem is, the Democrats are losing their centrists. Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr., they're the "I didn't leave, they left me!" group that were defenestrated through the Overton Window.
Would they go back to head and fix things? Maybe, but there's bad blood, and it would need a major change in the Democrat party to both accept them back in and give them high-level positions to push change.
Contrariwise, the Republicans have a related issue. A large number of people voted for Trump. Not for Repubs, but for Trump. Come 2028, they need to consolidate the new big tent, else voters will go back to their former home with the next Democratic presidential candidate that speaks moderately until mid-November, when the cake is baked.
- - - - - - - - -
The problem is, the Democrats are losing their centrists. Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr., they're the "I didn't leave, they left me!" group that were defenestrated through the Overton Window.
Would they go back to head and fix things? Maybe, but there's bad blood, and it would need a major change in the Democrat party to both accept them back in and give them high-level positions to push change.
Contrariwise, the Republicans have a related issue. A large number of people voted for Trump. Not for Repubs, but for Trump. Come 2028, they need to consolidate the new big tent, else voters will go back to their former home with the next Democratic presidential candidate that speaks moderately until mid-November, when the cake is baked.
Posted by: Another Anon at December 23, 2024 03:24 PM (QNMaY)
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204 Atheism is anarchy.
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others _ at December 23, 2024 03:23 PM (kquDM)
Communism enforced atheism. Worked well for them...
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others _ at December 23, 2024 03:23 PM (kquDM)
Communism enforced atheism. Worked well for them...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 23, 2024 03:24 PM (ynpvh)
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Atheism in fear and longing in a smarmy self-appointing getup.
Posted by: ... at December 23, 2024 03:24 PM (K1FQ5)
Posted by: Don Black. Message: bring back the old kickoff rules at December 23, 2024 03:24 PM (/7KEl)
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207 I thought Scott Presler had worked as a hairdresser before entering politics, but I could be wrong about that.
I don't care if he was Liberace's candelabrum polisher; he got results, and is continuing his work.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 23, 2024 03:23 PM (xCA6C)
Same and I think his hair is pretty and I'm a little jealous of his hair.
I don't care if he was Liberace's candelabrum polisher; he got results, and is continuing his work.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 23, 2024 03:23 PM (xCA6C)
Same and I think his hair is pretty and I'm a little jealous of his hair.
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 23, 2024 03:25 PM (wzlmZ)
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212 Democrats in 2028:
"JUST CAMPAIGN LOUDER!" 📣
Posted by: Don Black. Message: bring back the old kickoff rules at December 23, 2024 03:24 PM (/7KEl)
Don't forget...
"Kill the Fascist Magats!"...
"JUST CAMPAIGN LOUDER!" 📣
Posted by: Don Black. Message: bring back the old kickoff rules at December 23, 2024 03:24 PM (/7KEl)
Don't forget...
"Kill the Fascist Magats!"...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 23, 2024 03:25 PM (ynpvh)
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"@BillMelugin_
NEW: Per DHS sources, the suspect accused of burning a woman to death on a NYC subway is a Guatemalan illegal alien who was previously deported by the Trump administration and re-entered the U.S. illegally as a gotaway at an unknown time & location. I’m told he was arrested by Border Patrol on 6/1/2018 after he crossed illegally into Arizona, and he was deported just days later on 6/7/2018."
NEW: Per DHS sources, the suspect accused of burning a woman to death on a NYC subway is a Guatemalan illegal alien who was previously deported by the Trump administration and re-entered the U.S. illegally as a gotaway at an unknown time & location. I’m told he was arrested by Border Patrol on 6/1/2018 after he crossed illegally into Arizona, and he was deported just days later on 6/7/2018."
Posted by: illiniwek at December 23, 2024 03:26 PM (Cus5s)
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>>>@190 Question for the Horde ... Biden commuted the sentences of many death penalty inmates ... Does that just take the death penalty off of the table, or are they now released from jail on the consideration that they have served their time?
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Their sentences were COMMUTED, not pardoned ... If they had been pardoned, they would go free ... However, they will now serve life in prison rather than being killed.
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Their sentences were COMMUTED, not pardoned ... If they had been pardoned, they would go free ... However, they will now serve life in prison rather than being killed.
Posted by: k at December 23, 2024 03:26 PM (qpw89)
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The Dems don't really believe in the govt.'s role in the administration of Justice.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at December 23, 2024 03:26 PM (ZmEVT)
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The best part of the muslim slavery con? They only get any "reward" upon death, and more reward if they die spreading their slavery.
When you see a muslim, remind him to get on his knees and pray to his master in S.A., slave.
When you see a muslim, remind him to get on his knees and pray to his master in S.A., slave.
Posted by: Gentlemen, time for a reckoning at December 23, 2024 03:27 PM (Ypu3O)
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While I think *biden himself is fairly oblivious to what has been going on around him, I do not think the same is true for Jill or Hunter (or, really, any of the other *biden crime family members.)
If the family is anywhere near as vicious and vengeful as has been suggested the Democrat party is in for a rough couple of months after Trump moves into the White House. I'm sure they'll stamp out any of the dissent PDQ but there are fractures that will remain.
It's not unlike the current state of the Republican party.
If the family is anywhere near as vicious and vengeful as has been suggested the Democrat party is in for a rough couple of months after Trump moves into the White House. I'm sure they'll stamp out any of the dissent PDQ but there are fractures that will remain.
It's not unlike the current state of the Republican party.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 23, 2024 03:27 PM (Q4IgG)
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What are Democrats to do when their pronouns are freak/weirdo
Posted by: SMOD at December 23, 2024 03:27 PM (RHGPo)
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When the enemy, and they truely are anathma to everything American, is digging a hole, aid them by giving them replacement shovels.
Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at December 23, 2024 03:27 PM (qZdIZ)
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The indicator of future economic activity no longer suggests an impending recession.
Leading US Economic Index Increases for 1st Time in 2 Years
Leading US Economic Index Increases for 1st Time in 2 Years
Posted by: SMOD at December 23, 2024 03:28 PM (RHGPo)
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You know what the Dems need?
Moar Drunk, Insane Illegal Aliens
Moar Drunk, Insane Illegal Aliens
Posted by: wth at December 23, 2024 03:28 PM (v0R5T)
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Trump Endorses Outspoken Never-Trump RINO Gubernatorial Candidate Karrin Taylor Robson for 2026 Arizona Governors Race
Posted by: Groundhog Day at December 23, 2024 03:28 PM (/U5Yz)
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Commuted to Life without parole. Not pardoned.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 23, 2024 03:21 PM (wtvvX)
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As soon as they are in GenPop the gladiator games begin. Biden made sure people are going to die.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 23, 2024 03:21 PM (wtvvX)
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As soon as they are in GenPop the gladiator games begin. Biden made sure people are going to die.
Posted by: torabora at December 23, 2024 03:28 PM (9gcdx)
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216 >>>@190 Question for the Horde ... Biden commuted the sentences of many death penalty inmates ... Does that just take the death penalty off of the table, or are they now released from jail on the consideration that they have served their time?
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Their sentences were COMMUTED, not pardoned ... If they had been pardoned, they would go free ... However, they will now serve life in prison rather than being killed.
Posted by: k at December 23, 2024 03:26 PM
I was told by Hur that Biden was too demented to be prosecuted but he can do this? Who is the real president? I used to think it was Obama and his minions but I'm not sure.
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Their sentences were COMMUTED, not pardoned ... If they had been pardoned, they would go free ... However, they will now serve life in prison rather than being killed.
Posted by: k at December 23, 2024 03:26 PM
I was told by Hur that Biden was too demented to be prosecuted but he can do this? Who is the real president? I used to think it was Obama and his minions but I'm not sure.
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 23, 2024 03:29 PM (wzlmZ)
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Joe Biden abruptly withdrew two of his major student loan forgiveness plans on Monday.
Biden used the student loan forgiveness plans to buy votes and now that he lost the 2024 election, he has abandoned his plan and left millions of borrowers in lurch.
.. you fucked up … you trusted us
Biden used the student loan forgiveness plans to buy votes and now that he lost the 2024 election, he has abandoned his plan and left millions of borrowers in lurch.
.. you fucked up … you trusted us
Posted by: SMOD at December 23, 2024 03:29 PM (RHGPo)
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Commuted to Life without parole. Not pardoned.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 23, 2024 03:21 PM
Thanks, Tex!
Of course, as we have seen in a few states, LWOP can sometimes mean you can be paroled.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
For state crimes, yes.
Not sure about federal crimes.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 23, 2024 03:21 PM
Thanks, Tex!
Of course, as we have seen in a few states, LWOP can sometimes mean you can be paroled.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
For state crimes, yes.
Not sure about federal crimes.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 23, 2024 03:29 PM (jHelr)
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OT
CINN QB Joe Burrow gave his O-line teammates their own personal katana swords as gifts.
He said they wanted guns, but he went with swords.
CINN QB Joe Burrow gave his O-line teammates their own personal katana swords as gifts.
He said they wanted guns, but he went with swords.
Posted by: Don Black. Message: bring back the old kickoff rules at December 23, 2024 03:30 PM (/7KEl)
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Trump Endorses Outspoken Never-Trump RINO Gubernatorial Candidate Karrin Taylor Robson for 2026 Arizona Governors Race
Posted by: Groundhog Day at December 23, 2024 03:28 PM
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Will she be grateful that there will be fewer illegal aliens then?
Posted by: Groundhog Day at December 23, 2024 03:28 PM
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Will she be grateful that there will be fewer illegal aliens then?
Posted by: torabora at December 23, 2024 03:30 PM (9gcdx)
Posted by: wth at December 23, 2024 03:31 PM (v0R5T)
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"Come 2028, they need to consolidate the new big tent, else voters will go back to their former home with the next Democratic presidential candidate that speaks moderately until mid-November, when the cake is baked."
Are there any Democrats left who can pull that off? A leftist who can talk like a moderate when he has to? Maybe Jared Polis, Andy Beshear, or Ray Cooper, but Democrat primary voters want a fire breather like AOC, an ultraliberal elitist like Gavin Newsom, or a rich oligarch like that fat billionaire from Illinois
Are there any Democrats left who can pull that off? A leftist who can talk like a moderate when he has to? Maybe Jared Polis, Andy Beshear, or Ray Cooper, but Democrat primary voters want a fire breather like AOC, an ultraliberal elitist like Gavin Newsom, or a rich oligarch like that fat billionaire from Illinois
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 23, 2024 03:31 PM (9yUzE)
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Obama ushered in a wave of far left activists posing as lawmakers. They occupy some powerful positions in the party and the appeal a very small number of people in deep blue pockets of the country. It was the AOCs of the party that brought in idiocy like defund the police, BLM, DEI, etc.. and they are going to give up on those positions no matter what. They can't, it's all they have.
Until they rid the party of those whack jobs they are going to continue to lose on the national stage.
Until they rid the party of those whack jobs they are going to continue to lose on the national stage.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 23, 2024 03:31 PM (LkLld)
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Communism enforced atheism. Worked well for them...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 23, 2024 03:24 PM (ynpvh)
Minor nit to pick, but Communism enforced worship of the State.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 23, 2024 03:24 PM (ynpvh)
Minor nit to pick, but Communism enforced worship of the State.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 23, 2024 03:32 PM (FCbAQ)
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All that's left is Pelosi, AOC, Hakeem Jeffries, and a ton of Democrats united only by anti-white, anti-male, anti-straight, anti-Christian hatred.
Luigi Mangione
Luigi Mangione
Posted by: HEY MEATHEAD! at December 23, 2024 03:33 PM (oOc/o)
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Are there any Democrats left who can pull that off? A leftist who can talk like a moderate when he has to? Maybe Jared Polis, Andy Beshear, or Ray Cooper, but Democrat primary voters want a fire breather like AOC, an ultraliberal elitist like Gavin Newsom, or a rich oligarch like that fat billionaire from Illinois
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 23, 2024 03:31 PM (9yUzE)
Find out who footed the 20 million "book advance" to Kamala and you will know who gets to choose the next Dem candidate.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 23, 2024 03:31 PM (9yUzE)
Find out who footed the 20 million "book advance" to Kamala and you will know who gets to choose the next Dem candidate.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 23, 2024 03:33 PM (D7oie)
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Joe Biden abruptly withdrew two of his major student loan forgiveness plans on Monday.
Biden used the student loan forgiveness plans to buy votes and now that he lost the 2024 election, he has abandoned his plan and left millions of borrowers in lurch.
......
My bills are all due
and the babies need shoes
but I'm busted
Biden used the student loan forgiveness plans to buy votes and now that he lost the 2024 election, he has abandoned his plan and left millions of borrowers in lurch.
......
My bills are all due
and the babies need shoes
but I'm busted
Posted by: wth at December 23, 2024 03:34 PM (v0R5T)
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Commuted to Life without parole. Not pardoned.
Posted by: Tex Lovera
****
As soon as they are in GenPop the gladiator games begin. Biden made sure people are going to die.
Posted by: torabora
So, anyway...
Posted by: Tex Lovera
****
As soon as they are in GenPop the gladiator games begin. Biden made sure people are going to die.
Posted by: torabora
So, anyway...
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 23, 2024 03:34 PM (jHelr)
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"I don't care if he was Liberace's candelabrum polisher; he got results, and is continuing his work.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 23, 2024 03:23 PM (xCA6C)"
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According to wikipedia he got fired from a party job for doing a thing with another dude in Republican offices. But I don't care about that either. My point was he was an outsider. And he was doing some critical and necessary work that the party... particularly under Rona "Day Spa" McDaniel wasn't getting done. How was the party leadership so obtuse?
Posted by: Archimedes at December 23, 2024 03:23 PM (xCA6C)"
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According to wikipedia he got fired from a party job for doing a thing with another dude in Republican offices. But I don't care about that either. My point was he was an outsider. And he was doing some critical and necessary work that the party... particularly under Rona "Day Spa" McDaniel wasn't getting done. How was the party leadership so obtuse?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 23, 2024 03:35 PM (9yUzE)
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Find out who footed the 20 million "book advance" to Kamala and you will know who gets to choose the next Dem candidate.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 23, 2024 03:33 PM (D7oie)
To follow up, if it were Don Trump Jr, that would be the most 2024 thing ever
Posted by: Kindltot at December 23, 2024 03:33 PM (D7oie)
To follow up, if it were Don Trump Jr, that would be the most 2024 thing ever
Posted by: Kindltot at December 23, 2024 03:35 PM (D7oie)
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My bills are all due
and the babies need shoes
but I'm busted
Posted by: wth
If I'd have seen you,
I sure would have paid you
and the babies need shoes
but I'm busted
Posted by: wth
If I'd have seen you,
I sure would have paid you
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 23, 2024 03:35 PM (jHelr)
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National Jericho Movement | Facebook
6 days ago
Notice: Biden didn't pardon Mumia, Assata, Imam Jamil, Kamau or Leonard.
Stephanie Fox
@smfox
Ok, but how based would it be if Biden pardoned Mumia Abu-Jamal? #freemumia
10:36 AM · Dec 13, 2024
Black Agenda Report, I Beg Your Pardon! People of Color Say Hunter Biden’s Clemency Represents White Privilege in Overdrive, Jon Jeter 04 Dec 2024
"The White House can only pardon defendants convicted of federal crimes but many posts on social media have questioned why neither he nor his Vice-President Kamala Harris used their bully pulpit to appeal for clemency–or at the very least a new trial–for African Americans such as Mumia Abu-Jamal, who was convicted in 1981 for the murder of a white Philadelphia police officer; Jamil al-Amin–formerly H. Rap Brown–who was convicted of killing a white, Atlanta-area police officer in 2000; and Marcellus Williams, who was executed in September for the 1998 stabbing murder of Felicia Gayle in her St. Louis home.
In each of those cases, there exists exculpatory evidence..."
An interesting read.
Don't see the party as a whole changing its tune.
6 days ago
Notice: Biden didn't pardon Mumia, Assata, Imam Jamil, Kamau or Leonard.
Stephanie Fox
@smfox
Ok, but how based would it be if Biden pardoned Mumia Abu-Jamal? #freemumia
10:36 AM · Dec 13, 2024
Black Agenda Report, I Beg Your Pardon! People of Color Say Hunter Biden’s Clemency Represents White Privilege in Overdrive, Jon Jeter 04 Dec 2024
"The White House can only pardon defendants convicted of federal crimes but many posts on social media have questioned why neither he nor his Vice-President Kamala Harris used their bully pulpit to appeal for clemency–or at the very least a new trial–for African Americans such as Mumia Abu-Jamal, who was convicted in 1981 for the murder of a white Philadelphia police officer; Jamil al-Amin–formerly H. Rap Brown–who was convicted of killing a white, Atlanta-area police officer in 2000; and Marcellus Williams, who was executed in September for the 1998 stabbing murder of Felicia Gayle in her St. Louis home.
In each of those cases, there exists exculpatory evidence..."
An interesting read.
Don't see the party as a whole changing its tune.
Posted by: L - Rooster one day, Feather duster another at December 23, 2024 03:35 PM (NFX2v)
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ICE just needs to get DMV's records and start rounding them up.
Posted by: torabora at December 23, 2024 03:23 PM
Multiple blue states that issue drivers license to illegals are refusing to "share" their dmv records with the fed. Trump could reverse those policies by withholding federal highway money until they comply with the federal law.
SCOTUS has already ruled that is OK.
Posted by: torabora at December 23, 2024 03:23 PM
Multiple blue states that issue drivers license to illegals are refusing to "share" their dmv records with the fed. Trump could reverse those policies by withholding federal highway money until they comply with the federal law.
SCOTUS has already ruled that is OK.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 23, 2024 03:35 PM (Rcnd3)
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>Are there any Democrats left who can pull that off? A leftist who can talk like a moderate when he has to? Maybe Jared Polis-
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UH NO
Polis is a socialist and a sodomite. His worldview is shaped by the precept that everyone should enjoy and endorse getting dorked up the squeak-hole and same sex oral copulation. He is all in on the Democrats' weird sex fantasy agenda.
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UH NO
Polis is a socialist and a sodomite. His worldview is shaped by the precept that everyone should enjoy and endorse getting dorked up the squeak-hole and same sex oral copulation. He is all in on the Democrats' weird sex fantasy agenda.
Posted by: Don Black. Message: bring back the old kickoff rules at December 23, 2024 03:36 PM (/7KEl)
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The democrats cheated again. Not to win but at least keep the vote tally not as low as the truth.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at December 23, 2024 03:36 PM (oEQYk)
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Counterpoint; throughout my adult life, basically the past three-four decades when Rs win, and even when they win by only a hair, there are articles out about how the Dems are done and over. And huge surprise, they do come back and easily blitzkrieg over the dumbass nation again. Over and over.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 23, 2024 03:36 PM (Y6IkP)
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One thing the Democrats haven't tried is NOT being insane..
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 23, 2024 03:37 PM (BpYfr)
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Speaking of atrocities . . .
Loudoun County teacher under investigation for passing around cotton while teaching about the history of the cotton gin
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It's a century and a half and more and still the oppressed are not free of cotton.
Loudoun County teacher under investigation for passing around cotton while teaching about the history of the cotton gin
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It's a century and a half and more and still the oppressed are not free of cotton.
Posted by: Diddy at December 23, 2024 03:38 PM (L/fGl)
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the Dims are caught up in "historic first" fever.
Their vulture faced head of the Progressive Caucus in the House, Pramila Jayapal, made a big point of reciting their 2024 class of "historic firsts" after the last election.
"Activities over Accomplishments!"
the Dims are caught up in "historic first" fever.
Their vulture faced head of the Progressive Caucus in the House, Pramila Jayapal, made a big point of reciting their 2024 class of "historic firsts" after the last election.
"Activities over Accomplishments!"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 23, 2024 03:38 PM (xG4kz)
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You suck, follow me' is not as persuasive as liberals think."
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"Leading from behind."
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"Leading from behind."
Posted by: ShainS -- President-Elect Musk will appoint Vivek to Speaker Of The House! at December 23, 2024 03:38 PM (iYlhW)
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Constitution says President can only issue pardons for 'offences against the United States'
that is to say, federal-level crimes/convictions
that is to say, federal-level crimes/convictions
Posted by: Don Black. Message: bring back the old kickoff rules at December 23, 2024 03:38 PM (/7KEl)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 23, 2024 03:38 PM (GHvvy)
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Unless I'm wrong.™️
Posted by: Don Black. Message: bring back the old kickoff rules at December 23, 2024 03:38 PM (/7KEl)
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Have to continue the fight for election integrity.
It just took literally hundreds of thousands of poll watchers in the swing states.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 03:11 PM (4LF+x)
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You can never turn your back on Democrats, they will always cheat.
It just took literally hundreds of thousands of poll watchers in the swing states.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 03:11 PM (4LF+x)
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You can never turn your back on Democrats, they will always cheat.
Posted by: Decaf at December 23, 2024 03:38 PM (unUNN)
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247 One thing the Democrats haven't tried is NOT being insane..
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 23, 2024 03:37 PM (BpYfr)
That's never gonna happen because they don't think they're insane. They think we are
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 23, 2024 03:37 PM (BpYfr)
That's never gonna happen because they don't think they're insane. They think we are
Posted by: It's me donna at December 23, 2024 03:39 PM (VE6XX)
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Counterpoint; throughout my adult life, basically the past three-four decades when Rs win, and even when they win by only a hair, there are articles out about how the Dems are done and over. And huge surprise, they do come back and easily blitzkrieg over the dumbass nation again. Over and over.
The modern cycle of politics.
1. Democrats win bigly.
2. Democrats screw up so badly that Republicans squeak out a victory.
3. Republicans govern with a mix of weakness and betrayal; accomplishing nothing and leaving their constituents dispirited and disillusioned.
4. Democrats win bigly.
The modern cycle of politics.
1. Democrats win bigly.
2. Democrats screw up so badly that Republicans squeak out a victory.
3. Republicans govern with a mix of weakness and betrayal; accomplishing nothing and leaving their constituents dispirited and disillusioned.
4. Democrats win bigly.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 23, 2024 03:40 PM (9yUzE)
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Ace, I think you are being overly optimistic about the Democrat party. Yes, they are catering to the lunatic fringe, but there is also an imperative that supersedes all of the ideological blather, and that is the pursuit of power.
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I think WE ALL are overlooking what we got a glimpse of late last week with that first attempt at a spending bill. "Our" speaker of the house was all too willing to ride along with that ATTEMPTED FLEECING of the American public to a magnitude that would make a whore blush. Along with the outlandish amounts of money were wild lapses in moral judgement like even more "gain of function" research. And "our" speaker was right there ready to push it through.
We need to stop convincing ourselves that Musk will always be there to save us. "Our" side needs to be culled of bullshit artists that would have gone along with that bill.
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I think WE ALL are overlooking what we got a glimpse of late last week with that first attempt at a spending bill. "Our" speaker of the house was all too willing to ride along with that ATTEMPTED FLEECING of the American public to a magnitude that would make a whore blush. Along with the outlandish amounts of money were wild lapses in moral judgement like even more "gain of function" research. And "our" speaker was right there ready to push it through.
We need to stop convincing ourselves that Musk will always be there to save us. "Our" side needs to be culled of bullshit artists that would have gone along with that bill.
Posted by: Crusader at December 23, 2024 03:40 PM (TN0g+)
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Posted by: Don Black. Message: bring back the old kickoff rules at December 23, 2024 03:38 PM (/7KEl)
Posted by: OneEyedJack sez bring back the clothesline tackle at December 23, 2024 03:40 PM (FCbAQ)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 23, 2024 03:41 PM (xG4kz)
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One thing the Democrats haven't tried is NOT being insane..
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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It's a disease.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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It's a disease.
Posted by: wth at December 23, 2024 03:41 PM (v0R5T)
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Find out who footed the 20 million "book advance" to Kamala and you will know who gets to choose the next Dem candidate.
Posted by: Kindltot
In fairness, Kamala does have a way with words.
Posted by: Kindltot
In fairness, Kamala does have a way with words.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 23, 2024 03:41 PM (L/fGl)
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We haven't seen the scope of the censorship and narrative building machine used against us for years. And it works otherwise the CIA wouldn't have using it to topple regimes and rig elections in countries around the world.
How are they going to replace that? AI if we aren't watching but if they can't replace that level of control they are seriously boned.
How are they going to replace that? AI if we aren't watching but if they can't replace that level of control they are seriously boned.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 23, 2024 03:41 PM (LkLld)
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Just got here… as per the headline… No shit…
Posted by: tubal at December 23, 2024 03:41 PM (PCK5/)
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>>Find out who footed the 20 million "book advance" to Kamala and you will know who gets to choose the next Dem candidate.
Can you imagine a Kamala Harris Audiobook!?
Can you imagine a Kamala Harris Audiobook!?
Posted by: garrett at December 23, 2024 03:42 PM (j6KoD)
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What in the Wide, Wide World of Sports is going on in Texas???
The Texas Republican Party is made up mostly of Democrats flying under a flag of convenience.
The Texas Republican Party is made up mostly of Democrats flying under a flag of convenience.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 23, 2024 03:42 PM (9yUzE)
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Speaking of atrocities . . .
Loudoun County teacher under investigation for passing around cotton while teaching about the history of the cotton gin
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It's a century and a half and more and still the oppressed are not free of cotton.
Posted by: Diddy at December 23, 2024 03:38 PM
Dafuq?! Showing them cotton?! Wait until these kids find out they're wearing it!
Loudoun County teacher under investigation for passing around cotton while teaching about the history of the cotton gin
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It's a century and a half and more and still the oppressed are not free of cotton.
Posted by: Diddy at December 23, 2024 03:38 PM
Dafuq?! Showing them cotton?! Wait until these kids find out they're wearing it!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 23, 2024 03:42 PM (+QlJh)
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Can you imagine a Kamala Harris Audiobook!?
Posted by: garrett
I am not going to search for this but what do you want to bet there is a Kamala coloring book?
Posted by: garrett
I am not going to search for this but what do you want to bet there is a Kamala coloring book?
Posted by: Tonypete at December 23, 2024 03:43 PM (WXNFJ)
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The modern cycle of politics.
1. Democrats win bigly.
2. Democrats screw up so badly that Republicans squeak out a victory.
3. Republicans govern with a mix of weakness and betrayal; accomplishing nothing and leaving their constituents dispirited and disillusioned.
4. Democrats win bigly.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo
Ah, the toilet flush swirl.
1. Democrats win bigly.
2. Democrats screw up so badly that Republicans squeak out a victory.
3. Republicans govern with a mix of weakness and betrayal; accomplishing nothing and leaving their constituents dispirited and disillusioned.
4. Democrats win bigly.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo
Ah, the toilet flush swirl.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 23, 2024 03:43 PM (L/fGl)
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And huge surprise, they do come back and easily blitzkrieg over the dumbass nation again.
The Labour party was dead in England just four years ago. Not wounded, not confused, dead. It was a national joke. All it took was the "Conservative" party to act like massive idiots and zoom Labour is back in power. Nothing is permanent in politics this side of absolute tyranny, and those only last a few decades anyway.
The Labour party was dead in England just four years ago. Not wounded, not confused, dead. It was a national joke. All it took was the "Conservative" party to act like massive idiots and zoom Labour is back in power. Nothing is permanent in politics this side of absolute tyranny, and those only last a few decades anyway.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 03:43 PM (RsS92)
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Nood
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 23, 2024 03:43 PM (jHelr)
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266 Speaking of atrocities . . .
Loudoun County teacher under investigation for passing around cotton while teaching about the history of the cotton gin
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It's a century and a half and more and still the oppressed are not free of cotton.
Posted by: Diddy at December 23, 2024 03:38 PM
Dafuq?! Showing them cotton?! Wait until these kids find out they're wearing it!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 23, 2024 03:42 PM (+QlJh)
Shoulda busted out a fiddle rendition of “ Cotton-eyed Joe “ dancing a Buck and Wing….
Loudoun County teacher under investigation for passing around cotton while teaching about the history of the cotton gin
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It's a century and a half and more and still the oppressed are not free of cotton.
Posted by: Diddy at December 23, 2024 03:38 PM
Dafuq?! Showing them cotton?! Wait until these kids find out they're wearing it!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 23, 2024 03:42 PM (+QlJh)
Shoulda busted out a fiddle rendition of “ Cotton-eyed Joe “ dancing a Buck and Wing….
Posted by: tubal at December 23, 2024 03:44 PM (PCK5/)
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Commute from death to life without parole? Closes the tap on money for attorneys to endlessly appeal the death sentence. Money saver!
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at December 23, 2024 03:44 PM (DmOkS)
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The Texas Republican Party is made up mostly of Democrats flying under a flag of convenience.
hey! us too!
hey! us too!
Posted by: PA Republican Legislators at December 23, 2024 03:44 PM (Pv3Rg)
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"Leading from behind."
Posted by: ShainS -- President-Elect Musk will appoint Vivek to Speaker Of The House!
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BOHICA
Posted by: ShainS -- President-Elect Musk will appoint Vivek to Speaker Of The House!
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BOHICA
Posted by: wth at December 23, 2024 03:45 PM (v0R5T)
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War is better than fake peace.
See I'm shooting my grammar is perfect. There's no misunderstanding.
See I'm shooting my grammar is perfect. There's no misunderstanding.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at December 23, 2024 03:47 PM (oEQYk)
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USA dot gov
Driving in the U.S. if you are not a citizen
Depending on the U.S. states you will visit, you may need an International Driving Permit (IDP) as well as a driver's license your country.
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Temporary Protected Status (TPS) is a humanitarian program that provides temporary protection from deportation and work authorization to people from countries that are unsafe to return to. TPS benefits include:
Work authorization - TPS holders receive an Employment Authorization Document (EAD) that allows them to work in the United States.
Deportation protection - TPS holders are protected from being detained by DHS based on their immigration status.
Travel authorization - TPS holders can apply for Form I-512T, which allows them to travel outside the United States and return.
Driver's license eligibility - TPS holders may be eligible for a driver's license.
And much more.
Then there's Humanitarian Parole and driving in the US, i.e., All of the guys who recently installed windows in my house were young, Ukrainian, and drove work trucks for recognized companies.
Driving in the U.S. if you are not a citizen
Depending on the U.S. states you will visit, you may need an International Driving Permit (IDP) as well as a driver's license your country.
---
Temporary Protected Status (TPS) is a humanitarian program that provides temporary protection from deportation and work authorization to people from countries that are unsafe to return to. TPS benefits include:
Work authorization - TPS holders receive an Employment Authorization Document (EAD) that allows them to work in the United States.
Deportation protection - TPS holders are protected from being detained by DHS based on their immigration status.
Travel authorization - TPS holders can apply for Form I-512T, which allows them to travel outside the United States and return.
Driver's license eligibility - TPS holders may be eligible for a driver's license.
And much more.
Then there's Humanitarian Parole and driving in the US, i.e., All of the guys who recently installed windows in my house were young, Ukrainian, and drove work trucks for recognized companies.
Posted by: L - Rooster one day, Feather duster another at December 23, 2024 03:54 PM (NFX2v)
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Don't know if this is something or not, but several on this X thread say Gorka has now blocked them:
https://x.com/pepesgrandma/status/1871042872851546149
The allegation, if true, is disturbing. And surprising to me.
https://x.com/pepesgrandma/status/1871042872851546149
The allegation, if true, is disturbing. And surprising to me.
Posted by: dave davies at December 23, 2024 04:12 PM (+GVyA)
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BabylonBee: Luigi Mangione To Host Next Week's Episode Of 'SNL'
Posted by: SMOD at December 23, 2024 04:12 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: pawn, RIP Vic at December 23, 2024 05:14 PM (QB+5g)
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Pronouns are not policy.
Nobody gives a fuck about your pronouns. We literally have had it with this type of bullshit.
Democrats can't seriously discuss a single issue the electorate cares about. wages, inflation, education, illegal immigration, medical costs, etc. On every important issue they have declared not only alternative solutions, but even discussions, off limits.
Nobody gives a fuck about your pronouns. We literally have had it with this type of bullshit.
Democrats can't seriously discuss a single issue the electorate cares about. wages, inflation, education, illegal immigration, medical costs, etc. On every important issue they have declared not only alternative solutions, but even discussions, off limits.
Posted by: El Mariachi at December 23, 2024 06:57 PM (ARlwA)
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a comment is added I get severɑl e-mails with the same comment.
Is there any way you can remove people from tһat service?
Cheers!
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