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Drunk, Insane Illegal Alien Sets Woman On Fire in NYC Subway, Burning Her to Death

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Just another Fiery But Mostly Peaceful Migrant Murder in NYC.


A Guatemalan migrant has been arrested for allegedly lighting a sleeping subway rider on fire in Brooklyn on Sunday morning -- then watching as his innocent victim burned to death in what the police commissioner called "one of the most depraved crimes one person could possibly commit."

The savage killing -- which happened at about 7:30 a.m. on an idling F train at the Coney Island-Stillwell Avenue station -- shocked commuters, MTA workers and NYPD Commissioner Jessica Tisch, who said Sunday that the heinous crime "took the life of an innocent New Yorker."

"As the train pulled into the station, the suspect calmly walked up to the victim, who was in a seated position at the end of a subway car ... and used what we believe to be a lighter to ignite the victim's clothing, which became fully engulfed in a matter of seconds," Tisch said at a press conference.

Patrolling cops smelled and saw the smoke, then followed it to the flame-covered woman, the commissioner said.

They extinguished the blaze, but the victim died at the scene.

Officials said the 33-year-old suspect came to the US in 2018 from Guatemala. He was detained by border patrol agents in Arizona in June of that year, sources said. His legal status wasn't immediately clear Sunday night.

He received a transit summons in May 2023, but his criminal record in New York City was largely clean otherwise, sources said. He was living at a shelter on Randall's Island at the time of the infraction.

Horrifying video obtained by The Post showed the suspect calmly looking on as flames consumed the still-unidentified woman, who stood inside the open subway car door.

A transit cop walked by, and seemed to pull out a radio and say something as they continued down the platform.

After the cop passed, the suspect got up as if to walk away -- then the clip cut off.

In another video, cops yelled to the gathered crowd, "Did anybody see anything? Did anybody see anything?" as smoke poured from inside the subway car.

The suspect brazenly sat on a nearby bench as cops huddled around, pulling his hood up at one point just before an officer spoke to him.

"Do me a favor? Walk down there," the cop said, motioning down the platform with his radio. "I need this space cleared up."

The man stood up, then left the scene.

"Unbeknownst to the officers who responded, the suspect had stayed on the scene and was seated on a bench on the platform just outside the train car," Tisch said.

"The body-worn cameras on the responding officers produced a very clear, detailed look at the killer."

...

Cops called ahead and halted the train at Herald Square. Then, they went from car to car until they found the suspect and arrested him, police officials said.

Tisch said the suspect had a lighter in his pocket when he was picked up.


This link has video of the woman standing in a stupor as her body burns. It's graphic. I don't know why she isn't running and screaming. Maybe she was high or too in shock to do anything.

Just as the media claimed "a car" ran down children in Madgeburg, Germany, now the media is claiming a woman "caught fire."

Somehow. How did she "catch fire"? We may never know.

"News" outlets ABC and NBC completely embargoed the story and refused to report it. CBS mentioned a woman being set afire but failed to note she was burned to death by an illegal alien.

Posted by: Ace at 01:25 PM




Comments

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1 I NOODED

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 23, 2024 01:27 PM (ynpvh)

2 Oh, and SPONGE!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 23, 2024 01:27 PM (ynpvh)

3 This is an inconvenient story for the LEFT and MSM.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 23, 2024 01:27 PM (ynpvh)

4

He should be killed the same way.

Posted by: four seasons at December 23, 2024 01:27 PM (3ek7K)

5 Hey, where's everybody?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 23, 2024 01:27 PM (ynpvh)

6 Look like some fiery but mostly peaceful protest by an undocumented refugee no?

Posted by: The FNM at December 23, 2024 01:27 PM (oZhjI)

7 I guess it was spontaneous combustion.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 23, 2024 01:28 PM (pnMuZ)

8 I can't wait for NY to re-elect Hochul by 20 points.

Because they want this.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 01:28 PM (4LF+x)

9 I refuse to watch the video, for the same reason I never looked at any of the ISIS beheading videos. I've got the plot, I don't need that nightmare.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 23, 2024 01:28 PM (xCA6C)

10 Biden and his people have been evil letting all these things into the country.

This didn't help them in the election so I wonder what they were 'thinking.'

Posted by: Stateless at December 23, 2024 01:29 PM (jvJvP)

11 He should be killed the same way.

I'd actually like to see that encoded into law - you get executed for murder in the worst way you killed any of your victims.

Why? Well, you can't argue it isn't just and fair, but it also gives a strong incentive to would be murders to limit the amount of pain and horror they will inflict.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 23, 2024 01:29 PM (oZhjI)

12

Arch,

I'm right there with you. Don't need the nightmares.

Posted by: four seasons at December 23, 2024 01:29 PM (3ek7K)

13 Initially, the cops let the illegal alien walk away, but they gave the lady a ticket for smoking on the subway.

Posted by: Eddie Baby at December 23, 2024 01:29 PM (s19xO)

14 Just as the media claimed "a car" ran down children in Madgeburg, Germany, now the media is claiming a woman "caught fire."

Somehow. How did she "catch fire"? We may never know.

++++
Spontaneous human combustion.

Posted by: Robert Ripley at December 23, 2024 01:29 PM (HnUIn)

15 What worked:
Detaining nuts and criminals until their court date.

What failed:
Releasing nuts and criminals ignoring their court dates

Posted by: Deplorable Minion at December 23, 2024 01:30 PM (QSrLX)

16 She was a beautiful young woman in her mid-20's who had her whole life in front of her.
This is so shockingly, brutally horrible. I hope they deport these criminals in helicopter drops over the Mexican border.

Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at December 23, 2024 01:30 PM (xaNfJ)

17 "News" outlets ABC and NBC completely embargoed the story and refused to report it. CBS mentioned a woman being set afire but failed to note she was burned to death by an illegal alien.
++++
The levels of trust in the press are at dangerous levels because of Trump badmouthing us all the time.

Posted by: The Press at December 23, 2024 01:30 PM (HnUIn)

18 Forget catching fire some of these journalist fuckers need to catch hands and more. Figuratively speaking of course.

Posted by: ... at December 23, 2024 01:30 PM (K1FQ5)

19 Just watched 20 seconds of the piece of shit Governor's propaganda video about the subway's safety: are her *subjects* sincerely stupid enough to believe that grifting bint rides the subway, and regularly does so with her 2-year-old granddaughter?

These people are *evil*.

Posted by: Crusader at December 23, 2024 01:30 PM (TN0g+)

20 Drunk, Insane Illegal Alien
......

Thanks, Joe.

Posted by: wth at December 23, 2024 01:30 PM (v0R5T)

21 There are people who should never make it to custody.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at December 23, 2024 01:31 PM (wzAuc)

22 The ball is in your court, Your Honor.

Posted by: Deplorable Minion at December 23, 2024 01:31 PM (QSrLX)

23 Once an attorney identifies the manufacturer of the clothes the woman was wearing that company will get a lawsuit in addition to the NY transit system who will pay.

It's the way of NYC

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 23, 2024 01:31 PM (D6PGr)

24 Officials said the 33-year-old suspect came to the US in 2018 from Guatemala. He was detained by border patrol agents in Arizona in June of that year, sources said. His legal status wasn't immediately clear Sunday night.
++++
Is it ever? I mean, since the object of the exercise is to make "legal status" as unclear as possible, this seems like it is probably a true statement.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 01:31 PM (HnUIn)

25 Has his sentence been commuted by "Biden" yet?

Posted by: ... at December 23, 2024 01:31 PM (K1FQ5)

26 Ann Vandersteel™️ @annvandersteel
BREAKING: The Subway Burning Victim’s Name was AMELIA CARTER.

She was 29 years old.

Biden State Media refuses to post her name and face, because she was a beautiful young white woman whose life was monstrously taken by one of Joe Biden’s savage and racist illegals.

She was neither drunk nor homeless.

Just another victim of circumstance in Joe Biden’s fcked-up America.

Please SAY HER NAME in your prayers.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 01:31 PM (hovnC)

27 The real bad guy in the is story is the government. The federal government let him in, and depraved cities like NYC let them get away with murder, literally.

Posted by: Eddie Baby at December 23, 2024 01:31 PM (s19xO)

28 Ace, she can’t scream because the flames have engulfed her head. As she tries to breath or scream the flames and heat are dragged into her lungs and airway. This leaves a person unable to communicate and in many cases is the cause of death. It’s a horrible way to die, and unfortunately I’ve seen it before.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 23, 2024 01:31 PM (Iusta)

29 But, he has no record?

Really?

He comes here six years ago, gets picked up once or twice for jaywalking or aggravated loitering, and then calmly burns a woman to death for funsies?

I'm pressing X to doubt.

Posted by: mikeski at December 23, 2024 01:32 PM (DgGvY)

30 She was a beautiful young woman in her mid-20's who had her whole life in front of her.
This is so shockingly, brutally horrible. I hope they deport these criminals in helicopter drops over the Mexican border.
Posted by: Little Larry Sellers


The ID of the victim has not been released. Avoid Twitter farming posts.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 23, 2024 01:32 PM (IG4Id)

31 This crime - like every crime committed by an illegal alien (if he is, which seems likely) - was a crime of choice.

The government chose this crime, and this victim.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 01:32 PM (HnUIn)

32 29 year old white female. Amelia Carter. Did not look like a strung-out addict.

Put a bullet in the back of that animal's head.

Posted by: Grayman27 at December 23, 2024 01:32 PM (pgwxJ)

33 "News" outlets ABC and NBC completely embargoed the story and refused to report it.

--------------

Next you'll be telling me that they've also completely embargoed the F. Joe Dementia story.

Oh, nevermind ...

Posted by: ShainS -- President-Elect Musk will appoint Vivek to Speaker Of The House! at December 23, 2024 01:32 PM (GfZaH)

34 Hey Nancy Pelosi this guy sure has the spark of something, it sure ain't the divine

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 23, 2024 01:32 PM (DopAq)

35 HOCHUL 2028

Posted by: Kathy Hochul at December 23, 2024 01:33 PM (paSBy)

36 This is disgusting !! NYC is a Third world Shit hole!!!

Biden and Mayorkas should be arrested for Accomplice to Murder by the FBI. This would not have happened if they did their job.

Also who in the Hell was filming this and not helping her ??

Posted by: Buster Hymandd at December 23, 2024 01:33 PM (NAFdz)

37 But, he has no record?

Really?

He comes here six years ago, gets picked up once or twice for jaywalking or aggravated loitering, and then calmly burns a woman to death for funsies?

I'm pressing X to doubt.
Posted by: mikeski at December 23, 2024 01:32 PM (DgGvY)
++++
Let's give it the benefit of the doubt. Dude snapped and lashed out at random.

He never should have been here to do so.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 01:33 PM (HnUIn)

38 Just watched the video.

Wow, that woman must have really been out of it to just stand around like she did.

Posted by: Stateless at December 23, 2024 01:33 PM (jvJvP)

39 This crime - like every crime committed by an illegal alien (if he is, which seems likely) - was a crime of choice.

The government chose this crime, and this victim.


When the governor of MA was asked about a recent crime where an illegal raped a 14 year old she said "These things happen" in a bored tone and changed the topic.

The people in government do not care how many Americans suffer - they want the votes and the graft opportunities these illegals bring.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 23, 2024 01:33 PM (oZhjI)

40 This is Democrats and Hochul’s NY.

It’s also the NY of people who constantly vote for the same party every election like it’s a team sport.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 23, 2024 01:33 PM (Iusta)

41

Maybe a bunch of the media assholes should be loaded on subway cars with a bunch of the criminal illegals....................

You get my drift.

Posted by: four seasons at December 23, 2024 01:33 PM (3ek7K)

42 I came here to mention how the left would be more condemning of Daniel Penny than they would of this migrant, but Sandy Cortez beat me to the punch.

Posted by: My Sweet Lord at December 23, 2024 01:34 PM (MTz2u)

43 Drunk, Insane Illegal Alien

The home countries of these people have clearly just emptied out their jails, with the proviso that the freed inmates leave their country and to America; we'll be dealing with the dregs of their societies for a long time.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 23, 2024 01:34 PM (xCA6C)

44 I have had it with NYC. The mayor and governor have expressed their condolences. Are you kidding me? They effing caused this.

Those citizens need to protest like no one has ever protested before. Go on strike. Stop using the subways. Bring the city to a half.

What the hell is wrong with these people?

Posted by: PJ at December 23, 2024 01:34 PM (RRCAT)

45 The people in government do not care how many Americans suffer - they want the votes and the graft opportunities these illegals bring.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 23, 2024 01:33 PM (oZhjI)

On the contrary they want people to suffer as reparations.

Posted by: ... at December 23, 2024 01:34 PM (K1FQ5)

46 It's okay because every crime is reported into the stats and every victim swears out a report and you're in more danger in e.g. Chicago or, statistically, you know, in a village of 57 people with a 5-person murder-suicide that would be hundreds of thousands if in NYC!

Nate Silver @NateSilver538 3h
NYC has a considerably lower crime rate than most large American cities. It's also a city of 8+ million where lots of crazy shit happens on a daily basis. I don't blame anyone for being concerned but it's sort of a test for whether you think in terms of narratives or base rates.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 01:34 PM (hovnC)

47 "Woman Sets Self on Fire in Effort to Blame Innocent Migrant"

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 23, 2024 01:34 PM (WPL6O)

48 A dead pet in every home and a cooked commuter on every train!

Posted by: HOCHUL 2028 at December 23, 2024 01:34 PM (oZhjI)

49 Another literal "Spark of Divinity."

[h/t Nanzi Pelosi]

Posted by: ShainS -- President-Elect Musk will appoint Vivek to Speaker Of The House! at December 23, 2024 01:35 PM (GfZaH)

50 A transit cop walked by, and seemed to pull out a radio and say something as they continued down the platform.
______

Great work there, gumshoe.

(Also why the use of "they"? Oblivious cop looked like a guy, just say "he". Otherwise it's confusing.)

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 23, 2024 01:35 PM (fs1hN)

51 "Women dies as she catches fire in Brooklyn subway car" is today's "Car drives into Magdeburg Weihnachtsmarkt crowd, killing or injuring 200"

Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2024 01:36 PM (KBQMF)

52 Trump's quote, "Fake news is the enemy of the people." is yet again proven to be an absolutely true statement.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 23, 2024 01:36 PM (HlyYF)

53 THE TRUTH? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

Jorge Bonilla@BonillaJL
CBS Evening News was the only legacy media newscast to cover the horrendous burning to death of a woman on the NYC subway, and omitted details of the suspected murderer's migrant status. ABC and NBC didn't even bother airing a report at all.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 23, 2024 01:36 PM (L/fGl)

54 45 The people in government do not care how many Americans suffer - they want the votes and the graft opportunities these illegals bring.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 23, 2024 01:33 PM (oZhjI)

On the contrary they want people to suffer as reparations.
Posted by: ... at December 23, 2024 01:34 PM (K1FQ5)

Well you do have to break a few eggs...

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 23, 2024 01:36 PM (pnMuZ)

55 Never wear polyester.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 23, 2024 01:36 PM (ufFY8)

56 I suspect she didn't react because she had been asleep.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 23, 2024 01:36 PM (NQtI0)

57 In some countries, this POC (piece of crap) would have been dragged from the jail and hacked to death, and the law enforcement officers politely but firmly warned not to interfere.

In some countries.

Posted by: Dr. T at December 23, 2024 01:36 PM (jGGMD)

58 I have a mess of pine straw and branches to burn. Rural here. I'd behappy to add him to the pile.

Posted by: Torchy Blane at December 23, 2024 01:36 PM (G5+As)

59 The effing 'cops' who saw this going on and then just walked by before sitting down on a bench deserve to be summarily executed. No trial. Rotten bastards. While we're at it, how 'bout considering adding the Baby-Fondling Pants-shitter to the list? The woman's 'fellow passengers' can also stand against the wall, 'cos all they did was get out their iPhones for pix to post on their 'soshuls!' ... sonofabitch! I am SO pissed - and for those who think I'm overreacting: How 'bout YOU take a ride on the NYC sub like this woman did? How 'bout YOU fall asleep during your ride? Wanna do that ... ? Din't think so ... so shut the fuck up.

Posted by: Dr_No at December 23, 2024 01:36 PM (ayRl+)

60 At least in the USA it is not (yet) illegal to expose the criminal activity of illegals and "migrants", as it is in parts of Europe. But BigMedia will not do that reporting.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 23, 2024 01:37 PM (Cus5s)

61 it's sort of a test for whether you think in terms of narratives or base rates.
-------

Go fuck yourself I hope a migrant narrative and base rates you, faggot POS

Posted by: ... at December 23, 2024 01:37 PM (K1FQ5)

62 It's okay because every crime is reported into the stats and every victim swears out a report and you're in more danger in e.g. Chicago or, statistically, you know, in a village of 57 people with a 5-person murder-suicide that would be hundreds of thousands if in NYC!

I've been amused how many horror movies have some urban kids go out to the sticks and then have to deal with a pyscho murder.

The only real danger you face in the sticks it getting lost (and exposure if you get really lost) because almost all the psychos are in the cities. I was reading about one point in Philly for example where they had TWO serial killers operating at the same time.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 23, 2024 01:37 PM (oZhjI)

63 Another site had a captured image of a Transit Police officer walking past the flaming woman without any reaction.

Hochuls' assurances just give me a warm feeling, as do AOC, blaming Penny for the danger of the NYC Subways.

Not in the mood to be civil to DemonRats anymore.

Posted by: John in Indy at December 23, 2024 01:37 PM (GHK5Q)

64 Flames claim they were copycatting the Magdeburg van. Not their fault.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 01:37 PM (hovnC)

65 Maybe a bunch of the media assholes should be loaded on subway cars with a bunch of the criminal illegals......
......

Guys like Staphoknobpus would require less gasoline.

Posted by: wth at December 23, 2024 01:37 PM (v0R5T)

66 Just as the media claimed "a car" ran down children in Madgeburg, Germany, now the media is claiming a woman "caught fire."

dozens of people spontaneously combust each year

Posted by: anachronda at December 23, 2024 01:37 PM (edU/H)

67 He should have a tournaket placed on both arms and both legs and his little dick. Tighten them daily to increase the pain. He will either die from extreme pain related stress or lose all 4 limbs. If it is the latter, let him try and survive for a year on the streets with a sign around his neck saying "I'm the asshole that burned that sleeping woman to death". If he makes it a year then feed him to some starving rats.

This will all be available on pay per view of course.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 23, 2024 01:37 PM (QW1/v)

68 we'll be dealing with the dregs of their societies for a long time.
---
Several decades, I'm thinking.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at December 23, 2024 01:37 PM (paSBy)

69 On the contrary they want people to suffer as reparations.

Posted by: ... at December 23, 2024 01:34 PM (K1FQ5)

---------------

"The only way to end racism is to kill all the white people."

Posted by: ShainS -- President-Elect Musk will appoint Vivek to Speaker Of The House! at December 23, 2024 01:37 PM (GfZaH)

70 9 I refuse to watch the video, for the same reason I never looked at any of the ISIS beheading videos. I've got the plot, I don't need that nightmare.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 23, 2024 01:28 PM


My brother watched the "car into the crowd" video. He warned me NOT to watch it.

I heeded his advice.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 23, 2024 01:37 PM (HlyYF)

71 He had to have put some accelerant on her for it to go up like that. No way that was just her clothes

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 23, 2024 01:38 PM (cBelj)

72 A few commenters at Insty's -- she basically deserved it because she was asleep on the subway.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 01:38 PM (hovnC)

73

Meade,

You are right and it's a scary thought.

Posted by: four seasons at December 23, 2024 01:38 PM (3ek7K)

74 Never wear polyester.

If you go search for 100% cotton on most retailer websites you are going to get a ton of cotton blend outfits...

And I'm a guy, I can wear as much cotton as I want basically...but female fashion is much more polyester friendly...

Posted by: 18-1 at December 23, 2024 01:38 PM (oZhjI)

75 I want them to bring back hanging and start with this guy. We have computers now that can calculate the weight to add for a smooth process

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 23, 2024 01:38 PM (NQtI0)

76 It’s hard to appreciate the amount of heat coming from a fire like that. I’m sure they could feel it outside the car. But there were blankets and other materials somebody could have used to tackle and help extinguish the woman.

The problem is that person with courage doesn’t exist in NY anymore.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 23, 2024 01:38 PM (Iusta)

77 That boy doesn't need a trial, he doesn't need to live. Torture is not a righteous thing.
Take him to the center of Times Square, announce this will be the future for all subway maulers and any other NYC mauler. Violence against another must cease.
Put him on his knees and shoot him in the head.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others _ at December 23, 2024 01:39 PM (kquDM)

78 THE TRUTH? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

Jorge Bonilla@BonillaJL
CBS Evening News was the only legacy media newscast to cover the horrendous burning to death of a woman on the NYC subway, and omitted details of the suspected murderer's migrant status. ABC and NBC didn't even bother airing a report at all.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha!


Local story

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 23, 2024 01:39 PM (/lPRQ)

79 Nate Silver @NateSilver538 3h
NYC has a considerably lower crime rate than most large American cities. It's also a city of 8+ million where lots of crazy shit happens on a daily basis. I don't blame anyone for being concerned but it's sort of a test for whether you think in terms of narratives or base rates.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 01:34 PM (hovnC)

Y'know, not one single solitary person has been set on fire in my entire state. Not even one.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 23, 2024 01:39 PM (K861k)

80 Note how the word migrant is now as toxic as the old word and it only took about two years. The libs will have to change it again to protect people from their own bad mindthoughts.

Posted by: ... at December 23, 2024 01:39 PM (K1FQ5)

81 ... Nate Silver @NateSilver538 3h
NYC has a considerably lower crime rate than most large American cities. It's also a city of 8+ million where lots of crazy shit happens on a daily basis. I don't blame anyone for being concerned but it's sort of a test for whether you think in terms of narratives or base rates.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 01:34 PM (hovnC)
++++
There is a nugget of truth in this, which is the old (and correct) adage that context matters.

But you can't hand-wave away brutal crimes by (probably) illegal aliens who should not be here in the first place. Any is too many, because every is perpetrated by someone who should never have been here to offend.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 01:39 PM (HnUIn)

82 It's just ONE subway rider being set on fire. No biggie. *shrugs*

Posted by: Martha Raddatz at December 23, 2024 01:39 PM (JRHzL)

83 The problem is that person with courage doesn’t exist in NY anymore.

NYCers are known to be assholes and the government will throw you in jail for intervening...

This is apparently what the people of NYC want...

Posted by: 18-1 at December 23, 2024 01:39 PM (oZhjI)

84 May she receive Justice in this world and the next …

May her family and friends find Strength and be Comforted…

Posted by: Adriane to Totally Not Cynical Critic . . . at December 23, 2024 01:40 PM (qz+gL)

85 81 There is a nugget of truth in this, which is the old (and correct) adage that context matters.

But you can't hand-wave away brutal crimes by (probably) illegal aliens who should not be here in the first place. Any is too many, because every is perpetrated by someone who should never have been here to offend.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 01:39 PM (HnUIn)

========

"It's super rare and not a concern on the grand level."
-the left's argument for gay marriage, right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 01:40 PM (4LF+x)

86 Congratulations, a winner is you! New Yorkers, this is what you wanted.

Posted by: Cold Hearted Unfeeling Bastard at December 23, 2024 01:40 PM (Ybyk2)

87 I can believe this guy came back in illegally and then wasn't arrested again. I live 90m north of NYC and I see guys like this all the time in my city. Lots of illegals and some legal (Guatemalan indigenous) many do work in roofing , landscaping etc. However I've seen many who just hang around and drink . It wouldn't matter if they were in Tegucigalpa or here, except it's colder. The average height of the people in my city has decreased about 4-5 inches in the last few years

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 23, 2024 01:40 PM (DopAq)

88 "News" outlets ABC and NBC completely embargoed the story and refused to report it.

Local news story.

Posted by: The Establishment Media! at December 23, 2024 01:41 PM (uxCna)

89 There is no bottom to Man's capacity for depravity and cruelty- whether it's one crazed murderer, or an entire evil regime

Posted by: Don Black. Message: bring back the old kickoff rules at December 23, 2024 01:41 PM (/7KEl)

90 Stats don't win political arguments.

Dramatic examples win political arguments.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 01:41 PM (4LF+x)

91 I am very distressed that the sheep media consumers are losing trust in us. How will we be able to do our job to tell them exactly what to think?

Posted by: Mika B. at December 23, 2024 01:41 PM (a3Q+t)

92 Nate Silver @NateSilver538 3h
NYC has a considerably lower crime rate than most large American cities. It's also a city of 8+ million where lots of crazy shit happens on a daily basis. I don't blame anyone for being concerned but it's sort of a test for whether you think in terms of narratives or base rates.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 01:34 PM (hovnC)

....because they don't report crimes or enforce them.

shoplifting crimes plummetted here in CA when they made it legal, despite gangs emptying stores.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 23, 2024 01:41 PM (n7h9X)

93 >> Maybe she was high or too in shock to do anything.

possibly blind and also unable to scream from the damage to her face.

Posted by: Gentlemen, time for a reckoning at December 23, 2024 01:41 PM (Ypu3O)

94 75 I want them to bring back hanging and start with this guy. We have computers now that can calculate the weight to add for a smooth process
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 23, 2024 01:38 PM

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And we should adjust the data down to prevent a smooth process.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at December 23, 2024 01:41 PM (wzAuc)

95 Stay out of medium and large cities if possible. I try to avoid crowds all together.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 23, 2024 01:41 PM (r1SJ+)

96 A few commenters at Insty's -- she basically deserved it because she was asleep on the subway.
Posted by: andycanuck

And white.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 23, 2024 01:41 PM (L/fGl)

97 The problem is that person with courage doesn’t exist in NY anymore.
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I know, right?

Posted by: Mr. D. Penny at December 23, 2024 01:42 PM (fs1hN)

98 The subways aren’t safe and every time you ride your odds of an incident are high. The only people who don’t know this are Hochul and the Democrats leaders in the legislature.

Posting a few NG MP’s at transit hubs ain’t the answer, honey.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 23, 2024 01:42 PM (Iusta)

99 The average height of the people in my city has decreased about 4-5 inches in the last few years

I was looking at average heights over time in the various western countries and you can see America's height shrinking as we've imported so many Central Americans.

Europe mostly doesn't have this problem because I guess Turks and Arabs aren't as short as Mayans...

Posted by: 18-1 at December 23, 2024 01:42 PM (oZhjI)

100 Posted by: ShainS -- President-Elect Musk will appoint Vivek to Speaker Of The House! at December 23, 2024 01:37 PM (GfZaH)

It would be both funnier and less funny if it were less accurate.

Posted by: ... at December 23, 2024 01:42 PM (K1FQ5)

101 And I thought the Mariel Boat Lift was lit AF.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 23, 2024 01:42 PM (ufFY8)

102 It’s hard to appreciate the amount of heat coming from a fire like that. I’m sure they could feel it outside the car. But there were blankets and other materials somebody could have used to tackle and help extinguish the woman.

The problem is that person with courage doesn’t exist in NY anymore.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 23, 2024 01:38 PM (Iusta)

Blankets on a subway train? Where? and for how long?

Posted by: Oldcat at December 23, 2024 01:43 PM (n7h9X)

103 Short Nate Silver; I know this poor woman was needlessly set on fire, and horrifically and painfully burned to death, but otherwise NYC is pretty safe amirite?

Dunce.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 23, 2024 01:43 PM (Iusta)

104 Why are we talking about a handful of people being set ablaze by illegals? So far it's LESS than a handful of people!

Posted by: Martha Raddatz at December 23, 2024 01:43 PM (KBQMF)

105 >> Blankets on a subway train? Where? and for how long?
Posted by: Oldcat at December 23, 2024 01:43 PM (n7h9X)

The perp was standing there waving one.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 23, 2024 01:44 PM (Iusta)

106 Nate Silver @NateSilver538 3h
NYC has a considerably lower crime rate than most large American cities. It's also a city of 8+ million where lots of crazy shit happens on a daily basis. I don't blame anyone for being concerned but it's sort of a test for whether you think in terms of narratives or base rates.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 01:34 PM (hovnC)
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There is a nugget of truth in this, which is the old (and correct) adage that context matters.

But you can't hand-wave away brutal crimes by (probably) illegal aliens who should not be here in the first place. Any is too many, because every is perpetrated by someone who should never have been here to offend.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 01:39 PM (HnUIn)
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I would add that there is crazy shit, and there is CRAZY SHIT. This is CRAZY SHIT that outrages and galvanizes public opinion. Just like there are lots of suicides, but the ones that really stand out are the CRAZY-SHIT ones like setting yourself on fire.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 23, 2024 01:44 PM (iFTx/)

107 There will be copy cats.

Posted by: davidt at December 23, 2024 01:44 PM (i0F8b)

108 Blankets on a subway train? Where? and for how long?
Posted by: Oldcat at December 23, 2024 01:43 PM (n7h9X)

There are small pox blankets everywhere at the subway.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 23, 2024 01:45 PM (r1SJ+)

109 To Silver's point, it's also why crime stats alone are not a great indicator of whether an area is safe.

Go look at a place you know, if you have one. Look at the crime stats for bad neighborhoods and compare them to nice suburbs. You will probably find that the suburbs have higher property crime rates, and possibly sex crime rates.

So why is that? Is your perception wrong, or are the stats telling a different story than it appears? It could be either.

But the most likely answer is the latter - the stats aren't telling the story it looks like they're telling, because context *does* in fact matter. How many people getting robbed in the 'hood are going to bother reporting it? When you know the cops won't (or can't) find the person or your property, and if you don't have insurance, why bother? In the 'burbs, though, there's an expectation (usually a bad one) that the cops will do something but even absent that, the insurance company is going to demand a police report. So the suburbanite is going to file one. The rates as reported are higher.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 01:46 PM (HnUIn)

110 "News" outlets ABC and NBC completely embargoed the story and refused to report it.


Posted by: Ace at 01:25 PM

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Gives them the high ground to start the "pounce" cycle.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at December 23, 2024 01:46 PM (wzAuc)

111 Don't they have fire extinguishers on the subway?

Posted by: wth at December 23, 2024 01:46 PM (v0R5T)

112

Hot town, murder in the city
Fire on my back and it sure ain't pretty

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 23, 2024 01:46 PM (63Dwl)

113 Sparks of divinity should not be kept near flammable material.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 23, 2024 01:46 PM (cBelj)

114 Need to go with the Radish defense on this one: "It's only one person burned alive by an illegal on a subway car. Not like it's a trend or anything......"

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 23, 2024 01:46 PM (tT6L1)

115 One blanket a month ought to be enough for anybody.

Posted by: Your local neighborhood Karen at December 23, 2024 01:47 PM (ZQJvJ)

116
And white.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha!

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I heard she was Black.

Back in the days of George Zimmerman, the illegal alien would have been a "white Hispanic" and the woman would have resembled Obama's sister if he had one, but maybe there's something too raw about this case.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at December 23, 2024 01:47 PM (Xwngz)

117 Note how the word migrant is now as toxic as the old word and it only took about two years. The libs will have to change it again to protect people from their own bad mindthoughts.
Posted by: ... at


"Newcomer"?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 23, 2024 01:47 PM (/lPRQ)

118 I wouldn't have done what I done if I hadn't been high.

Posted by: Guatemalan Detroit Junior at December 23, 2024 01:47 PM (ufFY8)

119 Just watched the video.

Wow, that woman must have really been out of it to just stand around like she did.

Posted by: Stateless at December 23, 2024 01:33 PM (jvJvP)

Being burned alive isn't as easy as it looks.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 23, 2024 01:47 PM (n7h9X)

120 Nate Silver-. I don't blame anyone for being concerned but it's sort of a test for whether you think in terms of narratives or base rates
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On an individual level, the base rate is either 0% or 100%.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 23, 2024 01:47 PM (fs1hN)

121 Just got back from the grocery, where all the laundry detergent products are now in locked cases. Store employee told me people were stealing product, then going next door to the coin laundry and selling it.

Posted by: Don Black. Message: bring back the old kickoff rules at December 23, 2024 01:47 PM (/7KEl)

122 One of the most interesting parts of Trump's election is that I assume that the Establishment Media would be doing a happy dance and gearing up for much improved readership and viewership as Literally Hitler prepared to take office again.

Instead, their readership and viewership is collapsing, and they are cutting salaries and laying people off.

They have so trashed their reputation that not even the Left will pay to read and watch them.

The fact that they covered up the fact that Biden was mentally incapable to be President for four years does not help at all.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 23, 2024 01:47 PM (uxCna)

123 97 The problem is that person with courage doesn’t exist in NY anymore.
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I know, right?
Posted by: Mr. D. Penny
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Rational thought concerning NYC or CA is - out the window.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others _ at December 23, 2024 01:48 PM (kquDM)

124 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 01:39 PM (HnUIn)
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He's using his basic ass knowledge of dumbshit statistics to make a decidedly political point, and a wrong one at that. He's the Neil DeGrasse Tyson of faggots.

Posted by: ... at December 23, 2024 01:48 PM (K1FQ5)

125 111 Don't they have fire extinguishers on the subway?
Posted by: wth at December 23, 2024 01:46 PM (v0R5T)

I'm shocked no one was screaming stop drop and roll.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 23, 2024 01:48 PM (pnMuZ)

126 We can handle a few incinerations.

Posted by: Barack Obama at December 23, 2024 01:49 PM (KBQMF)

127 Just got back from the grocery, where all the laundry detergent products are now in locked cases. Store employee told me people were stealing product, then going next door to the coin laundry and selling it.
Posted by: Don Black. Message: bring back the old kickoff rules at December 23, 2024

It's the Era of Theft.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 23, 2024 01:49 PM (r1SJ+)

128 106 Nate Silver @NateSilver538 3h
NYC has a considerably lower crime rate than most large American cities. It's also a city of 8+ million where lots of crazy shit happens on a daily basis. I don't blame anyone for being concerned but it's sort of a test for whether you think in terms of narratives or base rates.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 01:34 PM

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Hey, cool! Anyone can roll first in this game! Philadelphia, MS, had very low violent crime rates in 1964 compared with Philadelphia, PA, so.......

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at December 23, 2024 01:49 PM (wzAuc)

129 Nobody pays attention to the "Establishment Media" anymore.

Posted by: I sure don't at December 23, 2024 01:50 PM (ZQJvJ)

130 ...The fact that they covered up the fact that Biden was mentally incapable to be President for four years does not help at all.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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The national debate did it. Thousands of believers saw the lie and their eyes were forever opened.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others _ at December 23, 2024 01:50 PM (kquDM)

131 Pardon the insensitivity, but why on earth was this woman so flammable?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 23, 2024 01:50 PM (2+SeL)

132 All these violent illegals look exactly the same, don't they? I don't mean that they're all hispanic. I mean they all look hispanic in exactly the same way: ugly, simian-looking degenerates that could be Hollywood extras in a gangland drama in the barrio.

They're like the hispanic version of the crazy cat ladies or fraggled soy boys: they all look the same.

I could pick these guys out in a lineup before they commit their crimes.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 23, 2024 01:50 PM (iFTx/)

133 "catches fire"

You don't hate the media enough

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 01:50 PM (RsS92)

134 Hochul's "safer city" boast was probably from a "crime statistics metrics" report specifically put together as a talking point for Hochul.

Hochul probably doesn't understand she got a directed outcome criminal metrics report. Hochul probably just read the high points without really looking to closely at how the number were put together.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 23, 2024 01:50 PM (tT6L1)

135 It's also a city of 8+ million where lots of crazy shit happens on a daily basis.

Pluses: You can get authentic Thai food at 3 AM

Minuses: You might get burnt alive because its Mad Max land

Posted by: 18-1 at December 23, 2024 01:50 PM (oZhjI)

136 Hey Nate Silver, you lazy fuck - how many crimes are reported these days, and how many crimes go unpunished because cops know their pissy-assed Soros funded DA will drop the charges?

Posted by: Black JEM at December 23, 2024 01:51 PM (GZYu7)

137 It's the Era of Theft.
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Amateurs.

Posted by: US Congress at December 23, 2024 01:51 PM (fs1hN)

138 Just got back from the grocery, where all the laundry detergent products are now in locked cases. Store employee told me people were stealing product, then going next door to the coin laundry and selling it.
Posted by: Don Black. Message: bring back the old kickoff rules at December 23, 2024 01:47 PM (/7KEl)
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If urban property crime keeps being legal, the entire retail model is going to revert back an old-fashioned basis. These stopgap measures of locking everything behind glass are unsustainable because they're too expensive and labor-intensive. The glass and locks are expensive, and the people to open and close locks all day are *really* expensive, even at minimum wage.

If this keeps up, the now-traditional "retail store" is going to vanish. All of the stock be in the back, behind locked doors. Walk in, pick what you want out of the catalogue (likely a computer kiosk rather than an actual catalogue), and a staff member will collect it from the back and bring it up. Maybe a display section for some bigger-ticket stuff.

If Service Merchandise had been able to hang on for another few decades, it would have found that its moment in the sun had returned.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 01:51 PM (HnUIn)

139 Speaking of our betters in the media, 60 Minutes says Mexico is super safe because of gun control.

https://is.gd/6GTSsK

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 23, 2024 01:51 PM (L/fGl)

140 134 Hochul's "safer city" boast was probably from a "crime statistics metrics" report specifically put together as a talking point for Hochul.

Hochul probably doesn't understand she got a directed outcome criminal metrics report. Hochul probably just read the high points without really looking to closely at how the number were put together.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 23, 2024 01:50 PM (tT6L1)

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Plus, there are probably massive reporting issues where people in certain neighborhoods just stopped reporting smaller crimes. Plus, we know that the NYC DA's office has been downgrading felonies to misdemeanors.

The assertion that NYC's crime rate is down seems...suspect at best.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 01:51 PM (4LF+x)

141 Go look at a place you know, if you have one. Look at the crime stats for bad neighborhoods and compare them to nice suburbs. You will probably find that the suburbs have higher property crime rates, and possibly sex crime rates.

Yep - people are more likely to file reports with the police in areas where police will respond.

That's one of the reasons why people focus on murder rates - it is likely that most murders will be reported (although cities like Chicago do their best to reclassify as many suspicious deaths as possible as non-homicides).

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 23, 2024 01:51 PM (uxCna)

142 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 23, 2024 01:51 PM (+sD5M)

143 The conductor used to have access to a pull tab fire safety blanket and a fire extinguisher. Not sure if that’s still the case.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 23, 2024 01:52 PM (Iusta)

144 135 It's also a city of 8+ million where lots of crazy shit happens on a daily basis.

Pluses: You can get authentic Thai food at 3 AM

Minuses: You might get burnt alive because its Mad Max land
Posted by: 18-1 at December 23, 2024 01:50 PM (oZhjI)

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Minuses: The 3AM Thai food place shut down because of overzealous food safety inspections.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 01:52 PM (4LF+x)

145 Wonder what the reaction would be if AOC spontaneously lit on fire and burned while no one cared............

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 23, 2024 01:52 PM (+sD5M)

146 The elites want us all dead. The illegals are their soldiers.

Posted by: Cray Cray at December 23, 2024 01:52 PM (EES2L)

147 Undoubtedly crime statistics are fudged by lefty government officials.

Who you going to believe, your lying eyes or statistics produced by the government?

And another difference in crime stats is where they occur in the city. The French Quarter and a few other areas in New Orleans used to be practically crime free a couple of decades ago while the rest of the city was the murder capital of the country.

When crime becomes ubiquitous in the ‘good’ parts of a city is when you have major issues.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 23, 2024 01:52 PM (D6PGr)

148 Don't they have fire extinguishers on the subway?

Never been on a NY Subway car but the movie show one in every car

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 01:53 PM (RsS92)

149 Plus, there are probably massive reporting issues where people in certain neighborhoods just stopped reporting smaller crimes. Plus, we know that the NYC DA's office has been downgrading felonies to misdemeanors.

The assertion that NYC's crime rate is down seems...suspect at best.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 01:51 PM (4LF+x)

There has

Posted by: Oldcat at December 23, 2024 01:53 PM (n7h9X)

150 I used to routinely make idiots out of people like Nate Silver (and actually Nate Silver) because they stared at dumb spreadsheets instead of watching the games.

Posted by: ... at December 23, 2024 01:53 PM (K1FQ5)

151 119 Just watched the video.

Wow, that woman must have really been out of it to just stand around like she did.

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Not watching it, but I'm going to guess that she woke up to being fully involved, head to toe, and in order to scream you need to suck in air. If the air is around 500F, that's the part where you die.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at December 23, 2024 01:53 PM (wzAuc)

152 Pluses: You can get authentic Thai food at 3 AM


Sure if you want to sit on the pot all night.

Posted by: Captain Splatter at December 23, 2024 01:53 PM (v0R5T)

153 Speaking of our betters in the media, 60 Minutes says Mexico is super safe because of gun control.

I was watching a video recently where some guy was filming a military convoy right as a cartel group saw it and it started a running gun fight between the military - trying to flee - and the cartel members trying to chase them down.

It was kind of like the mad max movies, if people could actually hit something with a gun...

Posted by: 18-1 at December 23, 2024 01:53 PM (oZhjI)

154 The assertion that NYC's crime rate is down seems...suspect at best.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 01:51 PM (4LF+x)
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Heck, where my wife and I used to live, we had a couple K worth of tools stolen from our garage and didn't bother to report it.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 23, 2024 01:53 PM (tT6L1)

155 Just watched the video.

Wow, that woman must have really been out of it to just stand around like she did.

Posted by: Stateless at December 23, 2024 01:33 PM (jvJvP)

Being burned alive isn't as easy as it looks.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 23, 2024 01:47 PM (n7h9X)
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Probably so high on heroin or -- more likely -- fentanyl that she might as well have been on an operating room table after anesthesia for open-heart surgery. There were some comments above about being in shock. But if you see the videos of the lunatics setting themselves on fire, they always start screaming and jumping around when the pain hits, and that doesn't stop until they fall over dead.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 23, 2024 01:53 PM (iFTx/)

156 The elites want us all dead. The illegals are their soldiers.
Posted by: Cray Cray at December 23, 2024 01:52 PM (EES2L)



"We will have a civilian paramilitary force that's just as big and well funded as the US military."

- - - - - Barack Hussein Owebama

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 23, 2024 01:54 PM (+sD5M)

157 If this keeps up, the now-traditional "retail store" is going to vanish. All of the stock be in the back, behind locked doors. Walk in, pick what you want out of the catalogue (likely a computer kiosk rather than an actual catalogue), and a staff member will collect it from the back and bring it up. Maybe a display section for some bigger-ticket stuff.

We can do Soviet "three-line" stores - you stand in one line to select your purchases, in a second line to pay for your purchases, and in a third line to get your purchases.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 23, 2024 01:54 PM (uxCna)

158 131 Pardon the insensitivity, but why on earth was this woman so flammable?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 23, 2024 01:50 PM (2+SeL)

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55 Never wear polyester.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 23, 2024 01:36 PM (ufFY

Posted by: ShainS -- President-Elect Musk will appoint Vivek to Speaker Of The House! at December 23, 2024 01:54 PM (GfZaH)

159 If her eyes and throat were burned, it is likely that all she could do is stand and grab the handrail.

Last night, X had the uncensored video. It appeared to me that she did not know what or where to go. I think this fits with her being blinded by the heat. Sorry to hit you all with this, it is even more horrific to me than her being on drugs, but I think that is malign assumption that minimizes what was done to her.

Posted by: Gentlemen, time for a reckoning at December 23, 2024 01:54 PM (Ypu3O)

160 >NYC has a considerably lower crime rate than most large American cities.
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that doesn't make fuck-all difference WHEN YOU ARE ON FIRE

Posted by: Don Black. Message: bring back the old kickoff rules at December 23, 2024 01:54 PM (/7KEl)

161 "News" outlets ABC and NBC completely embargoed the story and refused to report it.

haha

that's so pre-Millenium

Posted by: the World Wide Webs at December 23, 2024 01:54 PM (dCxaZ)

162 Wonder what the reaction would be if AOC spontaneously lit on fire and burned while no one cared............
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 23, 2024 01:52 PM (+sD5M)

Marshmallows.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 23, 2024 01:54 PM (r1SJ+)

163 Burning alive is about the worst way to die. I've had minor burns a couple of times and the pain factor is way out of sync for the amount of actual damage. I can't imagine the pain left of literally burning to death.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 23, 2024 01:55 PM (oZhjI)

164
When crime becomes ubiquitous in the ‘good’ parts of a city is when you have major issues.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 23, 2024 01:52 PM (D6PGr)

I was hit by a driver that took off. I was in an old shop type truck so no big deal but I didn't report it because I knew nothing would happen. I imagine that happens a lot.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 23, 2024 01:55 PM (pnMuZ)

165 >>Just as the media claimed "a car" ran down children in Madgeburg, Germany, now the media is claiming a woman "caught fire."


Juan-taneous Combustion

Posted by: garrett at December 23, 2024 01:55 PM (j6KoD)

166 Wonder what the reaction would be if AOC spontaneously lit on fire and burned while no one cared............
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden


I care. I would yell TAKE OFF THAT SWEATER FIRST!

Posted by: guy who always yells: "Show us yer tits!" at December 23, 2024 01:55 PM (v0R5T)

167 Speaking of our betters in the media, 60 Minutes says Mexico is super safe because of gun control.

https://is.gd/6GTSsK
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 23, 2024 01:51 PM (L/fGl)
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And the Mexican president decried Trump's unnice words about Mexico and blamed the US for Mexico's gun crime, because of cross-border arms trafficking and the drug trade.

The irony of that is tied up in the fact that if he's right and Mexico's problems are caused by heavily-armed cartels with easily-obtained cash and weapons from El Norte, the solution (or at least a big part of the solution) is to do exactly what Trump wants: close the damn border.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 01:55 PM (HnUIn)

168 Well, back to work.


Cool, crazy, in the groove, super and.....

Sincerely yours......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 23, 2024 01:55 PM (+sD5M)

169 If this keeps up, the now-traditional "retail store" is going to vanish. All of the stock be in the back, behind locked doors. Walk in, pick what you want out of the catalogue (likely a computer kiosk rather than an actual catalogue), and a staff member will collect it from the back and bring it up. Maybe a display section for some bigger-ticket stuff.

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Giant vending machines a la Carvana.

Posted by: ShainS -- President-Elect Musk will appoint Vivek to Speaker Of The House! at December 23, 2024 01:56 PM (GfZaH)

170 131 Pardon the insensitivity, but why on earth was this woman so flammable?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 23, 2024 01:50 PM (2+SeL)

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55 Never wear polyester.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 23, 2024 01:36 PM (ufFY
Posted by: ShainS -- President-Elect Musk will appoint Vivek to Speaker Of The House! at December 23, 2024 01:54 PM (GfZaH)

Down Winter Coats - plastic and feathers. Tinder and napalm

Posted by: Oldcat at December 23, 2024 01:56 PM (n7h9X)

171 We can do Soviet "three-line" stores - you stand in one line to select your purchases, in a second line to pay for your purchases, and in a third line to get your purchases.

Quite a few Krogers in Portland now have armed guards checking receipts before you are allowed to leave the store.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 23, 2024 01:56 PM (uxCna)

172 I am just now realizing that the cop waves it off and walks away WHILE THE PERP IS FANNING THE FLAMES TO MAKE THEM HOTTER.

Posted by: My Sweet Lord at December 23, 2024 01:56 PM (MTz2u)

173 Well if the burnt woman is a New Yorker she voted in favor of a sanctuary city.

Posted by: Redenzo at December 23, 2024 01:56 PM (V/pbu)

174 >We can do Soviet "three-line" stores - you stand in one line to select your purchases, in a second line to pay for your purchases, and in a third line to get your purchases.
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ah, the old Circuit City/Service Merchandise model

Posted by: Don Black. Message: bring back the old kickoff rules at December 23, 2024 01:57 PM (/7KEl)

175 ::::NYC has a considerably lower crime rate than most large American cities.:::

Or is it that NYC arrests and convicts criminals at a much lower rate than other cities?

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 23, 2024 01:57 PM (6CHAS)

176 @NateSilver538 3h
NYC has a considerably lower crime rate than most large American cities.


In other words, be thankful, for there are Democrat-run large cities with even more crime!

Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2024 01:57 PM (9O5em)

177 Well if the burnt woman is a New Yorker she voted in favor of a sanctuary city

TBH I assume there is massive fraud in the city voting totals.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 23, 2024 01:57 PM (oZhjI)

178 If Service Merchandise had been able to hang on for another few decades, it would have found that its moment in the sun had returned.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 01:51 PM (HnUIn)
__________________

Heh, I was just thinking the same thing. Also, I'm thinking stores should get a little creative as well. List all prices over the felony threshold...with the caveat that store members get it for the real listed price. Store memberships are for one time use only, but require nothing more than visiting the register clerk. Anyone who walks out with anything (even a paperclip) has committed a felony requiring the police to process and the DA to indict.

Posted by: Orson at December 23, 2024 01:57 PM (dIske)

179 131 Pardon the insensitivity, but why on earth was this woman so flammable?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 23, 2024 01:50 PM

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She was doused with lighter fluid.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at December 23, 2024 01:58 PM (wzAuc)

180 I wonder what her name was.

Posted by: m at December 23, 2024 01:58 PM (VnUSN)

181 Minuses: The 3AM Thai food place shut down because of overzealous food safety inspections.

My brother Jonathan has worked as a manager for restaurants for decades, and he tells me what food inspections are like. Now, its possible that Oregon and Washington have better inspectors but watching Kitchen Nightmares is shocking to me. There's no chance almost any of those places would survive even the most casual inspection.

Either they are getting away with no inspections, or are paying off the inspectors because... holy crap.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 01:58 PM (RsS92)

182 Too bad conservatives oppose Comprehensive Immigration Reform (tm), that poor immigrant would’ve been out of the shadows and living a solid middle class life right now. I’m worried about the backlash. /sarc

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 23, 2024 01:59 PM (I72M3)

183 176 @NateSilver538 3h
NYC has a considerably lower crime rate than most large American cities.

In other words, be thankful, for there are Democrat-run large cities with even more crime!
Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2024 01:57 PM (9O5em)

I'm sure that governments as scrupulous and transparent in their budgets and economic numbers are giving us the straight dope on crime.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 23, 2024 01:59 PM (2+SeL)

184 54
Well you do have to break a few eggs...

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 23, 2024 01:36 PM (pnMuZ)
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No no, too expensive these days. I bet no one's house gets egged either.

Posted by: Ciampino - No ovulating on your ass at December 23, 2024 01:59 PM (i0xsb)

185 HOT GIRLS IN LOVE

https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=KW22JDVEejk

Posted by: LOVERBOY at December 23, 2024 01:59 PM (j6KoD)

186 Anyone who walks out with anything (even a paperclip) has committed a felony requiring the police to process and the DA to indict.

Ha, ha, ha.

Posted by: A Soros DA! at December 23, 2024 01:59 PM (uxCna)

187 Right, gun control is Mexico: No one is allowed to own a pistol over .380, I believe. I seem to recall a story a few years ago where some cartel gangsters tried to take out a cop and he managed to defend himself quite well with a .380.

Also, I guess the stories of villages arming themselves against the cartels, only to have the cops disarm the citizens escaped the notice of the press.

We won't discuss the retribution taken on villagers who dared make a stand against the cartels.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 23, 2024 01:59 PM (tT6L1)

188 My top 4 worst ways to die would be burning, airplane crash, shark attack and drowning.

I always joke that I’ll be involved in a airplane crash into the ocean where I’d be on fire after thrown into the water where sharks would attack me as I drowned.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 23, 2024 01:59 PM (D6PGr)

189 Heh, I was just thinking the same thing. Also, I'm thinking stores should get a little creative as well. List all prices over the felony threshold...with the caveat that store members get it for the real listed price. Store memberships are for one time use only, but require nothing more than visiting the register clerk. Anyone who walks out with anything (even a paperclip) has committed a felony requiring the police to process and the DA to indict.
Posted by: Orson at December 23, 2024 01:57 PM (dIske)
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I *strongly* suspect that there are consumer protection and price transparency laws that would preclude that scheme. I'm not sure, but the laws around pricing are often pretty strict (except for medical services, where price transparency is for some reason considered a demonic evil).

I don't know for sure, but my gut check is that it would be shut down right quick.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 01:59 PM (HnUIn)

190 162 Wonder what the reaction would be if AOC spontaneously lit on fire and burned while no one cared............
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 23, 2024 01:52 PM

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That I wouldn't wish such a thing is a measure of how horrible this was.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at December 23, 2024 02:00 PM (wzAuc)

191 I wonder what her name was.
Posted by: m


Chrispy, er... I mean, Christy?

Posted by: too soon? at December 23, 2024 02:00 PM (v0R5T)

192 Down Winter Coats - plastic and feathers. Tinder and napalm
Posted by: Oldcat

Probably not feathers, but poly foam.

On the bright side, she can thank all those bans on chemical fire retardants for the fact that she was very unlikely to die of cancer.

Posted by: Gentlemen, time for a reckoning at December 23, 2024 02:00 PM (Ypu3O)

193 NYC has a considerably lower crime rate than most large American cities.

That's what happens when you stop enforcing the law. "That wasn't a crime, its below our threshhold where we let people just loot stores"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 02:00 PM (RsS92)

194 Did the trolls go away after November 6? It's been quiet.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 23, 2024 02:00 PM (6CHAS)

195 151 Not watching it, but I'm going to guess that she woke up to being fully involved, head to toe, and in order to scream you need to suck in air. If the air is around 500F, that's the part where you die.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at December 23, 2024 01:53 PM (wzAuc)

ouch

Posted by: m at December 23, 2024 02:00 PM (VnUSN)

196 didn't new york along with other cities stop reporting crime stats to the Bureau,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at December 23, 2024 02:00 PM (dJR17)

197 While not nearly as serious, this story also shows the insanity of some government and law enforcement when dealing with criminals:

A Georgia homeowner was arrested and charged with criminal trespass after attempting to move back into her home, which was being occupied by an alleged squatter.

'I spent the night on a mat on a concrete floor in deplorable conditions. While this woman, this squatter slept in my home,' Loletha Hale told WSB-TV Atlanta. A deputy, captured on body camera footage, advised Hale to consider the alleged squatter's perspective.

How does this make any sense? "Johnson ruled that “Sakemeyia Johnson is not a squatter” because she is related to a previously evicted tenant’s partner"

It's BS to say the Democratic Party has "gone away from common sense". The Reich-wing and the media over-sensationalize a problem and you end up with Americans that have NEVER been a landlord, believing that they are one break-in during their Christmas vacation from some malcontent stealing their home by moving into it.

Everybody want convictions and evictions to be "easy", up until it is themselves that is facing conviction or eviction.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at December 23, 2024 02:01 PM (JCZqz)

198 But the way he set her alight was so *vibrant*

Posted by: logprof at December 23, 2024 02:01 PM (teSFe)

199 Apocalypto.

Posted by: gKWVE at December 23, 2024 02:01 PM (WTKyD)

200 200

Posted by: m at December 23, 2024 02:01 PM (VnUSN)

201 You better not be a gringo caught with ammo in your possession if you’re in Mexico. You have to get certain permission and go through a procedure to go hunting in Mexico.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 23, 2024 02:01 PM (D6PGr)

202 Quite a few Krogers in Portland now have armed guards checking receipts before you are allowed to leave the store.

The Krogers in my placid suburb outside of Portland doesn't check receipts, but has recently acquired an armed guard to watch the exits.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 23, 2024 02:01 PM (uxCna)

203 Well if the burnt woman is a New Yorker she voted in favor of a sanctuary city.
Posted by: Redenzo


There is no provable connection between a person's vote or non-vote and their ballot.

Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2024 02:02 PM (9O5em)

204 ... It's BS to say the Democratic Party has "gone away from common sense". The Reich-wing and the media over-sensationalize a problem and you end up with Americans that have NEVER been a landlord, believing that they are one break-in during their Christmas vacation from some malcontent stealing their home by moving into it. ...
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at December 23, 2024 02:01 PM (JCZqz)
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Then maybe that should stop being a thing that can happen.

Does it happen often? No, of course not. *Could* it, depending on jurisdiction? Yes.

Make that not true, then come back and let's talk about perceptions.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 02:02 PM (HnUIn)

205 Americans that have NEVER been a landlord, believing that they are one break-in during their Christmas vacation from some malcontent stealing their home by moving into it.

The left: Let's demonize and exploit landlords, especially the type of people that only own one or two properties

Also the left: Why isn't there enough housing!?! Don't people want to earn money by renting out any extra housing they have?

Posted by: 18-1 at December 23, 2024 02:03 PM (oZhjI)

206 197 How does this make any sense? "Johnson ruled that “Sakemeyia Johnson is not a squatter” because she is related to a previously evicted tenant’s partner"

It's BS to say the Democratic Party has "gone away from common sense". The Reich-wing and the media over-sensationalize a problem and you end up with Americans that have NEVER been a landlord, believing that they are one break-in during their Christmas vacation from some malcontent stealing their home by moving into it.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at December 23, 2024 02:01 PM (JCZqz)

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Those two are, *chef's kiss*.

1. Completely arbitrary relationship based on someone who was previously evicted.
2. "Landlords are all evil, and this is definite proof of it."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 02:03 PM (4LF+x)

207 173 Well if the burnt woman is a New Yorker she voted in favor of a sanctuary city.
Posted by: Redenzo at December 23, 2024 01:56 PM (V/pbu)

Well, if the burnt woman is a New Yorker WHO VOTED IN FAVOR OF A SANCTUARY CITY, she voted in favor of a sanctuary city.

Posted by: m at December 23, 2024 02:04 PM (VnUSN)

208 ::::A Georgia homeowner was arrested and charged with criminal trespass after attempting to move back into her home::::

In a county where the sheriff was convicted on Federal corruption charges, partly for buying cars and clothes with department funds and paying out fraudulent overtime to his relatives and friends on the payroll.

I will leave it to you to guess the demographic makeup of that county.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 23, 2024 02:04 PM (6CHAS)

209 I heard she was Black.

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https://is.gd/faq6pW

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 23, 2024 02:04 PM (L/fGl)

210 205
The left: Let's demonize and exploit landlords, especially the type of people that only own one or two properties

Also the left: Why isn't there enough housing!?! Don't people want to earn money by renting out any extra housing they have?
Posted by: 18-1 at December 23, 2024 02:03 PM (oZhjI)

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Also, also the left: We need to import an underclass and make $0 down loans easier in the name of equity.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 02:04 PM (4LF+x)

211 194 Did the trolls go away after November 6?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 23, 2024 02:00 PM (6CHAS)

nope

Posted by: m at December 23, 2024 02:05 PM (VnUSN)

212 Nate Silver @NateSilver538 3h
NYC has a considerably lower crime rate than most large American cities. It's also a city of 8+ million where lots of crazy shit happens on a daily basis. I don't blame anyone for being concerned but it's sort of a test for whether you think in terms of narratives or base rates.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 01:34 PM (hovnC)

But if eliminating _all_ guns saves just one child, it would be worth it, eh Nate?

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I AM The Science at December 23, 2024 02:05 PM (lg881)

213 If this girls parents chained the doors to the local Migrant Shelter and set it on fire, I don't know that I would convict them.

Posted by: garrett at December 23, 2024 02:05 PM (j6KoD)

214 Also, also the left: We need to import an underclass and make $0 down loans easier in the name of equity.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 02:04 PM (4LF+x)
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Why not? Money is FREE!!!!!!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 02:05 PM (HnUIn)

215 Here's a somewhat less grim palate cleanser from Critical Drinker. He reviews Netflix' new show on the unsung black heroes of the WWII...postal service.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0dQRXc92RY

Posted by: Archimedes at December 23, 2024 02:05 PM (xCA6C)

216 believing that they are one break-in during their Christmas vacation from some malcontent stealing their home by moving into it. ...

The are instructional videos on YouTube explaining how to break into a house, forge a rental agreement, change the utility bills to your name, etc.

The attitude of the City Of Portland is that this is a "civil matter", and that evicting the squatters is your problem.

But yeah, this never happens.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 23, 2024 02:06 PM (uxCna)

217 Posted by: logprof at December 23, 2024 02:01 PM (teSFe)

Gosh it's good to see you around you have no idea

Posted by: ... at December 23, 2024 02:06 PM (K1FQ5)

218 About 1% of the residents of New York voted for Alvin Adams and his reign of terror,

I find very little humor in what that ring wraith, do we know his name, did to Angela Carter,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at December 23, 2024 02:06 PM (dJR17)

219 214 Also, also the left: We need to import an underclass and make $0 down loans easier in the name of equity.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 02:04 PM (4LF+x)
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Why not? Money is FREE!!!!!!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 02:05 PM (HnUIn)

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Also, also, also the left: Inflation is caused by big grocery selling eggs for too much.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 02:06 PM (4LF+x)

220 How does this make any sense? "Johnson ruled that “Sakemeyia Johnson is not a squatter” because she is related to a previously evicted tenant’s partner"

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Well, she is within six degrees of separation.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 23, 2024 02:06 PM (L/fGl)

221 this girls parents chained the doors to the local Migrant Shelter and set it on fire, I don't know that I would convict them.
Posted by: garrett at December 23, 2024 02:05 PM (j6KoD)

You reminded me of the part in Man on Fire where Cressey almost became a mass murderer.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 23, 2024 02:06 PM (D6PGr)

222 Saw a picture of the victim on Xwitter.

https://x.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1871258030953943473

Deport them all. Deport their fucking children.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 23, 2024 02:06 PM (73voq)

223 Wool doesn't burn. It smolders. There was a time they went to polyester uniforms for officers in the Navy. Sailors kept their original ones. They had to change it when they started losing officers to fire.

Synthetic fibers are very flammable as is cotton.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 23, 2024 02:07 PM (NQtI0)

224 If deporting all illegals saves the life of just one passenger on a New York subway...

Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2024 02:07 PM (9O5em)

225 See? Nate's right! Your house is more likely to burn down than have a squatter move in and steal everything so the rightist narrative is wrong!!

Thanks, DU for showing us the way to the future -- a future of statistics and our friend, the Mean!

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 02:08 PM (hovnC)

226 >Here's a somewhat less grim palate cleanser from Critical Drinker. He reviews Netflix' new show on the unsung black heroes of the WWII...postal service.

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saw that trailer
female POCs win WW2 by getting the mail delivered throughout the European Theater

Posted by: Don Black. Message: bring back the old kickoff rules at December 23, 2024 02:08 PM (/7KEl)

227 I fckg hate Kroger. Ours has a control gate at the entrance that buzzes if it closes on you and you push it open to get through. And video cameras that record you during self checkout. And the self checkout continually repeats "Place item in bagging area then scan next item" ever five seconds like their customers are tarded.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 23, 2024 02:08 PM (6CHAS)

228 198 But the way he set her alight was so *vibrant*
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It's divinity, is what it is.

Posted by: Nancy "Hopalong" Pelosi at December 23, 2024 02:08 PM (paSBy)

229 It used to be, back when, owning rentals was retirement income for mom and pop. And, generally, owning rental properties made for a nice tidy income. Didn't make mom and dad rich, but, it gave them a comfortable retirement.

And then along came the radical left and now Mom and Dad are no longer able to put up with the crap, so, they're selling off their properties.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 23, 2024 02:08 PM (tT6L1)

230 Well, she is within six degrees of separation.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 23, 2024 02:06 PM (L/fGl)

Fahrenheit, Celsius, or Kelvin?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 23, 2024 02:09 PM (ufFY8)

231 I don't think sanctuary cities were put to a vote by legal citizens were they? It was an executive order done by politicians.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 23, 2024 02:09 PM (HMEDI)

232 Gropey Joe has probably already pardoned him.

Posted by: XTC at December 23, 2024 02:09 PM (UnA8+)

233 Oh but the murderer was just an undocumented Guatemalan without any reason at all to be in the USA!
/s

And yet:

Wearedaca dot org: Member of Congress Sign on Letter for TPS for Guatemala
On September 16, 2024, nearly 60 members of Congress wrote to President Biden requesting that the Biden administration provide temporary humanitarian protections for Guatemalan nationals living in the United States by either designating the country for Temporary Protected Status (TPS) or authorizing Deferred Enforced Departure (DED) for Guatemalan nationals. Read the letter below.

Roundup in the works? Good, put the Philadelphia region on the list and check out Pike County, PA too.

Posted by: L - Rooster one day, Feather duster another at December 23, 2024 02:09 PM (NFX2v)

234 I hope that this is just an op, because I notice that the Left is completely defenseless in this case.

Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2024 02:10 PM (9O5em)

235 People like Nate Silver who spend their lives focused on spreadsheets and charts can’t wrap their minds around the possibility that the numbers are fake.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 23, 2024 02:10 PM (wyMQY)

236 Meanie, make sure you tickle deez nutz while yer down there

Posted by: The Margins at December 23, 2024 02:10 PM (WTKyD)

237 The nerve endings burn off quickly, so the pain is over very fast. One of my brothers was a lineman and died when a transformer they were working on exploded. 3rd degree burns over 90% of his body. He lived for 10 days, and the first few days he said nothing hurt. There is video of hom, looking like a boiled lobster, but waving and laughing as they loaded him in to the LifeEvac helicopter.

She was probably in shock, but hopefully not in pain in her last moments. I don't care if she was the neighborhood crack addicted hooker or not; no one deserves to be burned alive.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at December 23, 2024 02:10 PM (Vvh2V)

238 213 If this girls parents chained the doors to the local Migrant Shelter and set it on fire, I don't know that I would convict them.
Posted by: garrett

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I would pay money to be on that jury. If they got some NGO f:cks inside as well, I would recommend them for a Presidential Medal of Freedom.

Posted by: Gentlemen, time for a reckoning at December 23, 2024 02:10 PM (Ypu3O)

239 227 I fckg hate Kroger.
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Yeah, I used to go to Kroger occasionally. The ridiculous buzzing gates did it for me.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at December 23, 2024 02:10 PM (paSBy)

240 You are paying to house, feed, clothe and license these sick menaces to drive without insurance.

Posted by: ... at December 23, 2024 02:10 PM (K1FQ5)

241 ======

Also, also the left: We need to import an underclass and make $0 down loans easier in the name of equity.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to
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Then fine the banks when they default on the loans.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others _ at December 23, 2024 02:11 PM (kquDM)

242 And video cameras that record you during self checkout. And the self checkout continually repeats "Place item in bagging area then scan next item" ever five seconds like their customers are tarded.

One thing I learned is to pay cash at self-checkouts - apparently if the store decides that after the fact that there was something suspicious about your transaction, they will use your credit card information to go after you.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 23, 2024 02:11 PM (uxCna)

243 He reviews Netflix' new show on the unsung black heroes of the WWII...postal service.

Yeah. Oprah Winfrey project. Apparently she couldn't find any other WW2 story involving black women. It sounds like one of the movies of all time.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 02:11 PM (RsS92)

244 The real aggravating part is the landlord /owner went through all of the steps and got an order from the court that the property was hers .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 23, 2024 02:11 PM (D6PGr)

245 NYC has a considerably lower crime rate than most large American cities.

When DAs drop charges for illegals and "others", does the crime rate drop? Is it based off of crimes reported, or crimes prosecuted/convicted?

When 80 youths break into a store and steal everything, does that get reported as "one" incident of shoplifting? How about the videos we see of people walking into a store, grabbing random shit off the shelves, and just walking out with staff and other shoppers just standing by and not calling police because it's normal business?

For a guy who talks a big game about stats, you'd think he might be a little concerned about data accuracy and integrity. 🤔

Posted by: Moron Analyst at December 23, 2024 02:11 PM (JCZqz)

246 I don't care if she was the neighborhood crack addicted hooker or not; no one deserves to be burned alive.
Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at December 23, 2024 02:10 PM (Vvh2V)

This. Poor lady.

Posted by: IC - Cope Harder, Liberals at December 23, 2024 02:11 PM (EmT/E)

247 40
'This is Democrats and Hochul’s NY.

It’s also the NY of people who constantly vote for the same party every election like it’s a team sport.'

At some point a while ago, I stopped respecting these people. I surely don't respect their votes.
I don't have the power but if I did, I'd reduce NYC to a non-voting territory. I'd arrest everyone that cause or enable this kind of crime and hold them until they proved their innocence.
I don't regard them as fit countrymen that can be trusted in a constitutional republic. The law is only a weapon to them.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 23, 2024 02:11 PM (3wi/L)

248 People like Nate Silver who spend their lives focused on spreadsheets and charts can’t wrap their minds around the possibility that the numbers are fake.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 23, 2024 02:10 PM (wyMQY)
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They're very good at what's in front of them while uncritically accepting the premise upon which the numbers are built.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 23, 2024 02:11 PM (tT6L1)

249 Instead, their readership and viewership is collapsing, and they are cutting salaries and laying people off.

They have so trashed their reputation that not even the Left will pay to read and watch them.

The fact that they covered up the fact that Biden was mentally incapable to be President for four years does not help at all.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 23, 2024 01:47 PM (uxCna)

It occurs to me that the executive producers and those that exercise editorial control over the content are much more to blame than the on air "talent" or the writers.
You produce what the people who pay you tell you to produce or you're out of a job.
So while it would be nice to greet every media person with "What's the frequency, Kenneth?" You might not be changing anything.

But if someone were to pop an ABC president in the back outside their condo, well then they're the bad guy, so...

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 23, 2024 02:11 PM (FCbAQ)

250 Willowed: Anybody see potatohead going to the victims' funeral?

Posted by: Miflin at December 23, 2024 02:12 PM (aA6YN)

251 Roundup in the works? Good, put the Philadelphia region on the list and check out Pike County, PA too.

Pike?! Not enough room left in Luzerne County? Please hurry back, Pres. Trump.

Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2024 02:12 PM (9O5em)

252 Then fine the banks when they default on the loans.
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others _ at December 23, 2024 02:11 PM (kquDM)
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Banks got fined for not making those loans, which set in motion the financial meltdown of 2007.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 23, 2024 02:12 PM (tT6L1)

253 @236 ?

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 23, 2024 02:13 PM (73voq)

254 NY needs to reinstate the death penalty, as do all other pussified states who don't have it at present.

You can't have justice without the death penalty, IMO.

And I say we should adopt the Brit perspective of yore, when the condemned received ONE appeal - ONE - and if that failed, he was hanged within a couple weeks.

That would put a stop to this crap in a big hurry.

I don't want to hear liberals bleating about how it isn't a deterrent. We fight ineffectually against drugs, but Singapore - right on the periphery of the Golden Triangle - has no problem. Why? Because they have the death penalty, and use it freely. They don't care how many Presidents, Prime Ministers, Popes, Buddhas, whatever ask for clemency for the perp. If he was caught with weight, he hangs. Period.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 23, 2024 02:13 PM (YqDXo)

255 I don't think sanctuary cities were put to a vote by legal citizens were they? It was an executive order done by politicians.

Probably, but the voters keep reelecting those politicians. Not that this makes burning someone alive okay.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 23, 2024 02:13 PM (RsS92)

256
Why were the police just walking back and forth watching this woman stand there and burn? Did they already know it was a lost cause to try and stop the burning?

Posted by: Frank Barone at December 23, 2024 02:13 PM (+oR7L)

257 I'm always amazed at the level of abuse the left seems to think we should tolerate in the pursuit of being "compassionate and empathetic". How about some compassion and empathy for the people who are being subjected to pretty serious crimes and offenses so that we don't inconvenience or hurt the feelings of the supposed "oppressed"?

Posted by: Emmie at December 23, 2024 02:13 PM (Sf2cq)

258 >>>She was probably in shock, but hopefully not in pain in her last moments. I don't care if she was the neighborhood crack addicted hooker or not; no one deserves to be burned alive.
Posted by: Tammy-al Thor
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Right. Torturing the assailant makes us no better than them.
Just shoot them in the head and be done with it.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others _ at December 23, 2024 02:14 PM (kquDM)

259 The real aggravating part is the landlord /owner went through all of the steps and got an order from the court that the property was hers .

This shit would stop if a thousand of her neighbors showed up on the mayor's doorstep and noted they would leave when the woman was released, the invader was arrested AND the cops that arrested the homeowner were personally arrested as well.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 23, 2024 02:14 PM (oZhjI)

260
She was probably in shock, but hopefully not in pain in her last moments. I don't care if she was the neighborhood crack addicted hooker or not; no one deserves to be burned alive.
Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at December 23, 2024 02:10 PM (Vvh2V)
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Yep.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 23, 2024 02:14 PM (tT6L1)

261 People like Nate Silver who spend their lives focused on spreadsheets and charts can’t wrap their minds around the possibility that the numbers are fake.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 23, 2024 02:10 PM (wyMQY)

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His "model" still has Hillary at a 93% chance to win in 2016

Posted by: ShainS -- President-Elect Musk will appoint Vivek to Speaker Of The House! at December 23, 2024 02:14 PM (+PZyx)

262 230 Well, she is within six degrees of separation.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 23, 2024 02:06 PM (L/fGl)

Fahrenheit, Celsius, or Kelvin?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 23, 2024 02:09 PM (ufFY
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You spelt it wrong, it's Kevin.
Six degrees of separation from Kevin Bacon.

Posted by: Ciampino - No bacon for your ass at December 23, 2024 02:15 PM (i0xsb)

263 Torturing the assailant might not make us better but it could make the next ten thousand assailants think twice.

Posted by: ... at December 23, 2024 02:15 PM (K1FQ5)

264 If the woman worked in the health care industry the SNL audience would cheer for the poor immigrant.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 23, 2024 02:16 PM (D6PGr)

265 One thing I learned is to pay cash at self-checkouts - apparently if the store decides that after the fact that there was something suspicious about your transaction, they will use your credit card information to go after you.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 23, 2024 02:11 PM (uxCna)

Bleach...beep
Duct tape...beep
razor knife...beep
tarp...beep
rubber gloves...beep

*pays with cash*
*also swipes reward card to save $1.62*

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 23, 2024 02:16 PM (FCbAQ)

266 See? Nate's right! Your house is more likely to burn down than have a squatter move in and steal everything so the rightist narrative is wrong!!

Thanks, DU for showing us the way to the future -- a future of statistics and our friend, the Mean!
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 02:08 PM (hovnC)

I am the 1 in 10, a number on a list
I am the 1 in 10, even though I don't exist
Nobody knows me but I'm always there
A statistical reminder of a world that doesn't care

Posted by: UB40 at December 23, 2024 02:16 PM (lg881)

267 'This is Democrats and Hochul’s NY.

It’s also the NY of people who constantly vote for the same party every election like it’s a team sport.'


I do wonder if the squirrel raid had happened and Hochul was on the ballot this year if it would have led to her losing.

She didn't beat Zeldin by much

Posted by: 18-1 at December 23, 2024 02:16 PM (oZhjI)

268 This shit would stop if a thousand of her neighbors showed up on the mayor's doorstep…

…who would find out that the cops really do know how to perform mass arrests, when they’re sufficiently motivated.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 23, 2024 02:16 PM (EXyHK)

269 Why were the police just walking back and forth watching this woman stand there and burn? Did they already know it was a lost cause to try and stop the burning?
Posted by: Frank Barone

Putting out fires is NYFD business. We try to put that lady out, and she (or her family) can sue! We don't have the tools, the training, or the legal protection to try and assist.

Sorry. Keep voting Blue, New Yorkers.

Posted by: NYC Cops at December 23, 2024 02:17 PM (JCZqz)

270 75
'We have computers now that can calculate the weight to add for a smooth process'

We could also calculate the counterweight to pop his head off. He'd be a more memorable example that way.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 23, 2024 02:17 PM (3wi/L)

271 Headline February 1945: German city of Dresden catches fire.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 23, 2024 02:17 PM (1m82a)

272 One thing I learned is to pay cash at self-checkouts - apparently if the store decides that after the fact that there was something suspicious about your transaction, they will use your credit card information to go after you.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 23, 2024 02:11 PM (uxCna)
++++
#cashIsKing

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 02:17 PM (HnUIn)

273 Posted by: Emmie at December 23, 2024 02:13 PM (Sf2cq)

They hide their hate and misery behind compassion and empathy.

Posted by: ... at December 23, 2024 02:18 PM (K1FQ5)

274 256
Why were the police just walking back and forth watching this woman stand there and burn? Did they already know it was a lost cause to try and stop the burning?
Posted by: Frank Barone

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They didn't know what to do. One guy fanned the flames with a piece of cloth - I think he was trying to smother them but did not want to touch her for fear of her skin coming off.
Honestly, I am still not sure the whole thing isn't AI--it was so surreal.

If she got out of the subway car and screamed, I think people would have reacted different, but with her just standing their brains reverted to safe mode of looking for extinguisher.

Posted by: Gentlemen, time for a reckoning at December 23, 2024 02:18 PM (Ypu3O)

275 I'm always amazed at the level of abuse the left seems to think we should tolerate in the pursuit of being "compassionate and empathetic". How about some compassion and empathy for the people who are being subjected to pretty serious crimes and offenses so that we don't inconvenience or hurt the feelings of the supposed "oppressed"?

Posted by: Emmie at December 23, 2024 02:13 PM (Sf2cq)

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The Left believes that criminals are victims -- and victims are criminals.

Posted by: ShainS -- President-Elect Musk will appoint Vivek to Speaker Of The House! at December 23, 2024 02:18 PM (+PZyx)

276 Headline February 1945: German city of Dresden catches fire.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 23, 2024 02:17 PM (1m82a)
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Most structures in Germany are not only not on fire, they are perfectly normal and functional residences and businesses.

Overall, the percentage of burning structures in Germany is tiny, and this is wildly overblown.

Posted by: Nate Silver at December 23, 2024 02:18 PM (HnUIn)

277 #cashIsKing
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 02:17 PM (HnUIn)
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Yeah, about that....

Posted by: One World Government at December 23, 2024 02:18 PM (tT6L1)

278 YOU CAN NEVER HATE THE MEDIA ENOUGH.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 23, 2024 02:18 PM (wtvvX)

279 From DU:

Trump impact in my rural area. Local meat producer loses key staff ahead of Trump reign.

"It's happening. Buckle up.

I live on the coast in Oregon. We have some local, small meat producers who strive to follow humane and healthy animal husbandry practices. Customers generally subscribe in advance to purchase locally raised and processed meat.

I just received notice that they are having to cancel orders, or indefinitely postpone because their key staff are quitting to return to Mexico. The workers cite hostile interactions with locals, and rising rents making it unaffordable for them to stay.

My local school district, where I work as a sub, may also be losing students of local immigrant workers. Job listings and sub assignments are way down.

The impacts of immigrant worker persecution will be deeper and more pervasive than many realize."

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 23, 2024 02:19 PM (a3Q+t)

280 269 Why were the police just walking back and forth watching this woman stand there and burn? Did they already know it was a lost cause to try and stop the burning?
Posted by: Frank Barone

Putting out fires is NYFD business. We try to put that lady out, and she (or her family) can sue! We don't have the tools, the training, or the legal protection to try and assist.

Sorry. Keep voting Blue, New Yorkers.
Posted by: NYC Cops at December 23, 2024 02:17 PM (JCZqz)

I am reminded of the story out of England some years ago where the fire department and/or police were keeping folks from helping get victims out of a burning structure (house I think) for their "safety".

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I AM The Science at December 23, 2024 02:19 PM (lg881)

281 I wouldn't be surprised if there are supposed to be fire extinguishers readily available on NY subways, but, due to the crime free culturally enhanced denizens of NY, most extinguishers are out of order.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 23, 2024 02:20 PM (tT6L1)

282 In some ancient tyrannical regimes it was punishable by death to talk to, look at, or touch a monarch or certain other people who were part of that system. Seems some things don't change that much.

Posted by: Cast down your gaze, peasant! at December 23, 2024 02:20 PM (UKe2c)

283 Posted by: UB40 at December 23, 2024 02:16 PM (lg881)
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Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 02:20 PM (hovnC)

284 279 My local school district, where I work as a sub, may also be losing students of local immigrant workers. Job listings and sub assignments are way down.

The impacts of immigrant worker persecution will be deeper and more pervasive than many realize."
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 23, 2024 02:19 PM (a3Q+t)

======

So, their houses will open up, expanding housing inventory. Their jobs will open up to those who gave up on the job market. They'll take their skills back to their home countries and make them better.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 02:20 PM (4LF+x)

285 Hochul literally didn't know as governor she could not appoint replacement congressmen when a vacancy occurred during a term.

But remember it's not that the country, its "elites", and electorate are not disastrously stupid, lazy, and ignorant. Nope, something Soros blah blah "globalists!!!" blah burp blah.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 23, 2024 02:21 PM (1m82a)

286 Bring out your Brain-Dead Biden's.......

Bring out your Brain-Dead Biden's.......

Bring out your Brain-Dead Biden's.......

Bring out your Brain-Dead Biden's.......

Posted by: Monty Python at December 23, 2024 02:21 PM (URsrR)

287 We had a friend who purchased a property to build on and was prevented for awhile because there was a squatter living in a condemned structure on the property. The squatter had never been a tenant but had been living with the prior tenant, whose lease expired long ago and that tenant was long gone. The courts explained that the owner couldn't tear down the shack to build his own house because then the squatter would be homeless.

Our friend finally persevered, but it was a ridiculous situation for far too long.

Posted by: Emmie at December 23, 2024 02:21 PM (Sf2cq)

288 ... I just received notice that they are having to cancel orders, or indefinitely postpone because their key staff are quitting to return to Mexico. The workers cite hostile interactions with locals, and rising rents making it unaffordable for them to stay.

My local school district, where I work as a sub, may also be losing students of local immigrant workers. Job listings and sub assignments are way down. ...
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 23, 2024 02:19 PM (a3Q+t)
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Maybe hire legal employees next time.

The only downside here is that, as always, the smart ones jump fastest to capitalize effectively on changes good or bad. The average quality of illegals is going to get worse as this gets underway.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 02:21 PM (HnUIn)

289 Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 23, 2024 02:19 PM (a3Q+t)

Faster please !

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 23, 2024 02:21 PM (D6PGr)

290 They're very good at what's in front of them while uncritically accepting the premise upon which the numbers are built.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 23, 2024 02:11 PM (tT6L1)

That's the trick to every climate model and climate study that are put out - they do detailed work on all kinds of mathematical formulas, without once noting that all of their work is based on ridiculous premises.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 23, 2024 02:21 PM (wyMQY)

291 Trump should tell the bureaucracy that anyone who contributes to Biden and his destruction of the USA will be outed. All of your emails, all of your communications on government boards and your personnel file will be put on the Web so your neighbors know what you have done. Should be done anyway

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 23, 2024 02:21 PM (DopAq)

292 The impacts of immigrant worker persecution will be deeper and more pervasive than many realize."
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 23, 2024 02:19 PM (a3Q+t)

Stop, we can't vote for him again!

And ah just like that we're back to "immigrants" already.

Posted by: ... at December 23, 2024 02:22 PM (K1FQ5)

293 #cashIsKing
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 02:17 PM


D*mn straight! Johnny Cash >>> Elvis Presley

Posted by: O.G. Country Music fans at December 23, 2024 02:22 PM (a3Q+t)

294 DU commenters get confused by the phrase "animal husbandry".

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 02:22 PM (hovnC)

295 They'll take their skills back to their home countries and make them better.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 02:20 PM (4LF+x)


I like this perspective.

Posted by: Emmie at December 23, 2024 02:22 PM (Sf2cq)

296 The impacts of immigrant worker persecution will be deeper and more pervasive than many realize."

One can only hope..

Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2024 02:23 PM (Nf1pZ)

297 Rising rents in Oregon!! That bastard, President Trump!!!

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 02:23 PM (hovnC)

298 Trump should tell the bureaucracy that anyone who contributes to Biden and his destruction of the USA will be outed. All of your emails, all of your communications on government boards and your personnel file will be put on the Web so your neighbors know what you have done. Should be done anyway
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 23, 2024 02:21 PM (DopAq)
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Make Transparency Great Again

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 02:23 PM (HnUIn)

299 Probably, but the voters keep reelecting those politicians. Not that this makes burning someone alive okay.

The voters may or may not. The election results certainly do keep reelecting them though.

I'd love to see Trump make voting machines illegal and not having a count done by midnight a felony. Florida counted twice by then because RDS wanted to show off.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 23, 2024 02:23 PM (Yqpb4)

300 Just saw a photo of the girl that was burned. No wonder the MSM is staying away from it. Attractive white girl.

Posted by: Orson at December 23, 2024 02:23 PM (dIske)

301 @256

>>Why were the police just walking back and forth watching this woman stand there and burn? Did they already know it was a lost cause to try and stop the burning?

A number of years ago, there was a guy that pulled out a gun in a crowded train car, the two transit cops that were in the car, ran to the conductors booth and locked themselves inside, leaving passengers to subdue the lunatic.

Cops are agents of the state, sent forth to enforce the laws of the state, there is nothing in their charter demanding they put themselves in harms way.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 23, 2024 02:23 PM (XV/Pl)

302 Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I AM The Science at December 23, 2024 02:19 PM (lg881)

More recently they blocked residents from using the escape roads in Hawaii. They had to die for their own good.

Posted by: ... at December 23, 2024 02:23 PM (K1FQ5)

303 So "immigrant workers" is the new idiotic euphemism for illegal aliens? Nice.

I sure hope Homan & Co. have spent the 20 minutes it would take to devise a program to wring the illegal labor out of major industries, working from the top (biggest) down.

Still stunned they didn't do it last time.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 23, 2024 02:24 PM (1m82a)

304 Why were the police just walking back and forth watching this woman stand there and burn? Did they already know it was a lost cause to try and stop the burning?
Posted by: Frank Barone

Because they're useless shitbags with their pig snouts in the taxpayer trough. They couldn't arrest her or write her a citation for unlawful burning in a subway car and said "fuck it."

Posted by: And let the perp go too at December 23, 2024 02:24 PM (UKe2c)

305 I lived in a city with no death penalty and there was a horrific murder. It was odd seeing the local papers having a serous debate about it. Most of the public favored it.

The relatives of the victim were destroyed. I think they deserve the peace of knowing that the monster who killed their loved one is no longer on the Earth.

Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent. - Adam Smith

Posted by: Gentlemen, time for a reckoning at December 23, 2024 02:24 PM (Ypu3O)

306 286 Bring out your Brain-Dead Biden's.......

Posted by: Monty Python at December 23, 2024 02:21 PM

--

Roll out the brainless one-term wonder!

Posted by: Warren Zevon at December 23, 2024 02:24 PM (wzAuc)

307 >>>My local school district, where I work as a sub, may also be losing students of local immigrant workers. Job listings and sub assignments are way down.

The impacts of immigrant worker persecution will be deeper and more pervasive than many realize."
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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So, we should keep paying higher school taxes to supplement the loss of illegal student attendance in order to continue employment of unnecessary school personnel.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others _ at December 23, 2024 02:24 PM (kquDM)

308 Rising rents in Oregon!! That bastard, President Trump!!!

LIVs believe Trump is already the President, because that's basically the tone of a lot of news coverage. This is probably why the Deep State is trying furiously to cause a major bad event before they're out on their asses.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 23, 2024 02:24 PM (Yqpb4)

309 So, we should keep paying higher school taxes to supplement the loss of illegal student attendance in order to continue employment of unnecessary school personnel.
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others _ at December 23, 2024 02:24 PM (kquDM)
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This guy gets it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 02:25 PM (HnUIn)

310
They hide their hate and misery behind compassion and empathy.
Posted by: ... at December 23, 2024 02:18 PM (K1FQ5)


I prefer to keep my hate and misery out in the open. You know, not let things get bottled up.

Posted by: Keeps the pressure lower at December 23, 2024 02:25 PM (UKe2c)

311 Why were the police just walking back and forth watching this woman stand there and burn? Did they already know it was a lost cause to try and stop the burning?

They don't want to be Chauvin'd.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 23, 2024 02:25 PM (Yqpb4)

312 A number of years ago, there was a guy that pulled out a gun in a crowded train car, the two transit cops that were in the car, ran to the conductors booth and locked themselves inside, leaving passengers to subdue the lunatic.

Posted by: Thomas Bender
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It was a knife. They watched from the booth as he stabbed a passenger. I think the passenger tried to sue the cops and they were found to have "no duty to protect."

Posted by: Gentlemen, time for a reckoning at December 23, 2024 02:26 PM (Ypu3O)

313 Well, she is within six degrees of separation.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 23, 2024 02:06 PM (L/fGl)

Fahrenheit, Celsius, or Kelvin?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 23, 2024 02:09 PM


Bacon.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 23, 2024 02:26 PM (+QlJh)

314 Bring out your Brain-Dead Biden's.......
Posted by: Monty Python at December 23, 2024 02:21 PM


'e's not dead yet!

Posted by: Dr. Jill at December 23, 2024 02:26 PM (a3Q+t)

315 The left invited, sheltered and protected illegal aliens for years who once here took jobs and housing from US citizens and legal immigrants, disrupted the culture, fueled the Democrats rhetoric of disparaging US citizens, devalued US citizenships, burdened the already tottering education system, allowed gangs to flourish, and for extra credit the US paid them to be here with welfare and free medical. That they are now killing us should be of no surprise since we have already put are necks in the noose why shouldn't they feel justified pulling open the trap door. Deport them all.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at December 23, 2024 02:27 PM (Q8Bj8)

316 294 DU commenters get confused by the phrase "animal husbandry".
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 02:22 PM (hovnC)

____________________________

I've tried to educate them. I've really tried.

Posted by: Cenk of the Bestiality Clan at December 23, 2024 02:27 PM (dIske)

317 I am reminded of the story out of England some years ago where the fire department and/or police were keeping folks from helping get victims out of a burning structure (house I think) for their "safety".

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I AM The Science at December 23, 2024 02:19 PM (lg881)

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"The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life."

-- Theodore Roosevelt

Posted by: ShainS -- President-Elect Musk will appoint Vivek to Speaker Of The House! at December 23, 2024 02:29 PM (/Pivs)

318 Hmmmmm....

President-elect Donald Trump will continue military aid to Ukraine after his inauguration, according to "three officials familiar with discussions" the Financial Times spoke with late last week — and that's not the only peace through strength measure you can expect during Trump 47.

https://is.gd/BMyxPX

Posted by: Archimedes at December 23, 2024 02:29 PM (xCA6C)

319 286
Bring out your Brain-Dead Biden's.......

Posted by: Monty Python at December 23, 2024 02:21 PM (URsrR)
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This would have been funnier:
Bring out your Brain-Dead Bidens.......

Posted by: Ciampino - No bacon for your asses at December 23, 2024 02:29 PM (i0xsb)

320 He is dead, just still has a pulse

Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2024 02:29 PM (IrUIF)

321 I look forward to the Bulwark article, "Spontaneous Human Combustion Cases on the Rise; Trump, Global Warming to Blame"

Posted by: Wally at December 23, 2024 02:29 PM (DJlGZ)

322 When will Pegleg Pelosi issue another statement about "sparks of divinity?"

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at December 23, 2024 02:30 PM (paSBy)

323 227
'I fckg hate Kroger. ...repeats "Place item in bagging area then scan next item" ever five seconds like their customers are tarded.

Well. They are shopping at Kroger.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 23, 2024 02:30 PM (3wi/L)

324 He'll be stone dead in a minute...

Posted by: Don Black. Message: bring back the old kickoff rules at December 23, 2024 02:30 PM (/7KEl)

325 "176 @NateSilver538 3h
NYC has a considerably lower crime rate than most large American cities."

Because (a) a huge portion of the most vicitimized do not report crimes as not to "snitch," and (b) they and everyone else know the police will do diddly squat to investigate any crime not still in progress, and (c)
what would get reported elsewhere (e.g. assaults) get routinely downgraded into "public nuisance" and various other bullshit non-crime offenses.

Posted by: Zek at December 23, 2024 02:30 PM (5FPX4)

326 Maybe a more uplifting thread next

Posted by: Don Black. Message: bring back the old kickoff rules at December 23, 2024 02:31 PM (/7KEl)

327
Pardon the insensitivity, but why on earth was this woman so flammable?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls

================

Hair products -- accelerated Michael Jackson's hair fire.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at December 23, 2024 02:31 PM (Xwngz)

328 LIVs believe Trump is already the President, because that's basically the tone of a lot of news coverage. This is probably why the Deep State is trying furiously to cause a major bad event before they're out on their asses.
Posted by: Ian S.

...because Biden is a brain-dead vegetable that isn't on television or other media acting presidential for LIVs, while Trump is everywhere, all the time, saying and doing everything. How could a normie NOT think Biden is out of office and Trump is running things?

Posted by: Moron Analyst at December 23, 2024 02:31 PM (JCZqz)

329 OT: why would the Flintstones and the Rubbles celebrate Christmas?

Posted by: Think about it at December 23, 2024 02:32 PM (dg+HA)

330 Why is anybody agonizing about the method of deportation about the illegals. It's quite simple, dump them on the Mexican side of the border since that how they arrived. If Mexico didn't have a problem with them on the way in they shouldn't on the way out. After all, they opened their southern border, the US didn't.

Posted by: Decaf at December 23, 2024 02:32 PM (unUNN)

331 Those Oregon meat producers should contact Hillery. She knows how to make a buck in cattle futures.

Posted by: Reforger at December 23, 2024 02:32 PM (xcIvR)

332 :::So, we should keep paying higher school taxes to supplement the loss of illegal student attendance in order to continue employment of unnecessary school personnel:::

Apparently

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 23, 2024 02:32 PM (9yUzE)

333 Noood

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 23, 2024 02:32 PM (jHelr)

334 The reason we need a death penalty is what we are seeing now--courts letting convicted criminals go free. And 10-20 years of appeals does not constitute justice.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 23, 2024 02:33 PM (NQtI0)

335 Cops are agents of the state, sent forth to enforce the laws of the state, there is nothing in their charter demanding they put themselves in harms way.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 23, 2024 02:23 PM (XV/Pl)

They have NO legal duty to protect you, your home, your property, your health, your safety. None. And act accordingly. One thing that does concern me about PDT is his promises about expanding police immunity. I think this is a terrible idea. We already see routine violations of people's 1st, 4th, and 5th amendment rights on a near-daily basis on matters that are already well-established. Law enforcement does not give a fuck. I don't think they should be encouraged in any way to give less of a fuck about people's rights.

Posted by: No hero worship at December 23, 2024 02:33 PM (UKe2c)

336 Nood.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 23, 2024 02:33 PM (a3Q+t)

337 nood focus

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 02:34 PM (hovnC)

338
So everyone just stands around and films this with with their phones. A woman is on fire and they just stand around?

Yep, she had to be on something...strong.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 23, 2024 02:35 PM (w6EFb)

339 After all, they opened their southern border, the US didn't.
Posted by: Decaf at December 23, 2024 02:32 PM (unUNN)


I don't know that. Our state department uses US dollars as incentives for all sorts of shit that is unofficial.
Then there are the NGO's using government money as inducements.
In theory, you're right. But we are the marks at the table and so the last to figure out the game.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 23, 2024 02:35 PM (FCbAQ)

340 Actually, referencing the commutation of all of the death sentences, this is actually a genius move by Biden, His Infernal Majesty.

Now, right around Christmas, it gets all of his critics talking about the brutality of the cases, which will be seen as a real "downer" to the public who want to hear about Rudolph sightings.

Biden can go out to his liberal Catholic, Unitarian, and etc constituencies spouting bullshit about forgiveness and redemption.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 23, 2024 02:36 PM (73voq)

341 I just received notice that they are having to cancel orders, or indefinitely postpone because their key staff are quitting to return to Mexico. The workers cite hostile interactions with locals, and rising rents making it unaffordable for them to stay.

My local school district, where I work as a sub, may also be losing students of local immigrant workers. Job listings and sub assignments are way down.

The impacts of immigrant worker persecution will be deeper and more pervasive than many realize."
---
Bespoke butcher is a rich man's luxury.
But, they wouldn't know that.
Oh pity the poor rich liberal, who can't get their custom meats because their butcher won't pay a--what's that phrase the left so loves?--"living wage."
Taking a job from an American citizen.
Who is also the only one paying taxes for the free schooling the illegal children are getting.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 23, 2024 02:36 PM (PixdE)

342 It's possible to stop the war between Russia and Ukraine and as part of the agreement have the US supply some arms to western Ukraine. Or perhaps a new geographical boundary delineating Ukraine from Russia.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others _ at December 23, 2024 02:36 PM (kquDM)

343 PLEASE TO ATTEND THE NEW THREAD REPROBATES

Posted by: kallisto at December 23, 2024 02:36 PM (dCxaZ)

344 Maybe a more uplifting thread next

I did what I could with the Critical Drinker link.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 23, 2024 02:36 PM (xCA6C)

345 To warn others away from rebellion, Wallace's head was dipped in tar and placed on a pike on London Bridge. His four limbs were sent to be displayed in Newcastle, Berwick, Stirling, and Perth.

Posted by: L - Rooster one day, Feather duster another at December 23, 2024 02:37 PM (NFX2v)

346 131 Pardon the insensitivity, but why on earth was this woman so flammable?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 23, 2024 01:50 PM (2+SeL)

Classifying Flammability in Fabrics

In accordance with the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR), a simple “Class 1 to 3” flammability grade is given to all textile fabrics:

Class 1 (Normal Flammability): A (5 inch specimen) burn time of 3.5 seconds or more for plain surface fabrics and 7 seconds or more for raised surface fabrics.

Class 2 (Intermediate Flammability): A burn time of 4 to 7 seconds. This classification only applies to raised surface fabrics.

Class 3 (Rapid Flammability): A burn time of less than 3.5 seconds for plain surface fabrics and less than 4 seconds for raised surface fabrics.

Neither plain nor raised surface fabrics with a Class 3 rating can be sold in the U.S.


If this woman was asleep, she'd have needed to wake up within 15 or 20 seconds and realized what was happening.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 23, 2024 02:37 PM (wtvvX)

347 Free ticket to Burning Woman.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 23, 2024 02:37 PM (63Dwl)

348 291
'Trump should tell the bureaucracy that anyone who contributes to Biden and his destruction of the USA will be outed.'

That would be so great.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 23, 2024 02:39 PM (3wi/L)

349 @132 "All these violent illegals look exactly the same, don't they? I don't mean that they're all hispanic. I mean they all look hispanic in exactly the same way: ugly, simian-looking degenerates that could be Hollywood extras in a gangland drama in the barrio."

I've had this exact thought many times.

Can't wait for the workplace raids to start. One town in my midwestern state is known for employing illegals at their plant.

Yesterday I visited my liberal sister-in-law for the holiday, and they were talking about how the entire construction industry in TX (where they used to live) would be in serious trouble if everyone gets deported. Well, somehow I think things will work out. I honestly don't care at this point.

Posted by: Adlib at December 23, 2024 02:40 PM (kBmW+)

350 Pardon the insensitivity, but why on earth was this woman so flammable?

The illegal poured booze on her, according to some bystanders.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 23, 2024 02:40 PM (Yqpb4)

351 This is quite the body count that the Biden cabal has managed to rack up in four years and we still have 28 days to go. There are all of the children that have not been accounted for and may not be to add. If you start with the premise that this is all intentional, that they are grossly incompetent, and that they just don't care, then it all makes sense.

Posted by: Cheri at December 23, 2024 02:41 PM (oiNtH)

352 Intent free hate crime: if you commit a crime against one of the five groups to which you don’t belong, you will be given a longer sentence without regard to why you did it.

Posted by: Goatweed at December 23, 2024 02:45 PM (cl9qq)

353 Fahrenheit, Celsius, or Kelvin?

Kelvin Bacon!

Posted by: 46 at December 23, 2024 02:46 PM (Vu7A1)

354 If construction finds itself impacted by the deportation of aliens, then capital/machinery can finally fill the gap.

Posted by: Goatweed at December 23, 2024 02:50 PM (cl9qq)

355 we'll be dealing with the dregs of their societies for a long time.
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Several decades, I'm thinking.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at December 23, 2024 01:37 PM (paSBy)

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Not if they are all deported, every single one.

Posted by: Decaf at December 23, 2024 02:51 PM (unUNN)

356 353 Fahrenheit, Celsius, or Kelvin?

Kelvin Bacon!
Posted by: 46 at December 23, 2024 02:46 PM (Vu7A1)

Six degrees of.

Posted by: Cold! at December 23, 2024 02:51 PM (UKe2c)

357 Ah, those cops kinda just walked back and forth and didn't rush to put her out. Were they looking for marshmallows?

Posted by: Juris Doctor Doom at December 23, 2024 03:31 PM (i6shs)

358 Soak him in Gasoline then Light him on Fire then someone can dispatch him with a quick shot in the head

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at December 23, 2024 04:15 PM (wGqjj)

359 @274 that was the PERP fanning the flames to try to make them bigger. He wasn’t offering assistance.

Posted by: Wanda at December 23, 2024 05:30 PM (MTz2u)

360 She's standing and not moving because at this point she's dead, fire causes the tendons to lock.

Posted by: Michael W at December 23, 2024 09:07 PM (Y+LM7)

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