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Edmonds Turkey.jpg

Preparing for Christmas (Plucking Turkeys)
Francis William Edmonds

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM




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Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2024 09:30 AM (gbOdA)

2 Ohhhh.... plucking. I thought it was something else.

My bad.

Posted by: Pete Buttpluger at December 23, 2024 09:31 AM (Q4IgG)

3 You turkeys better watch out!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at December 23, 2024 09:31 AM (hOUT3)

4 Lookit those turkey pluckers!

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 23, 2024 09:31 AM (Aqu9a)

5 They are doing it wrong, trust me…

Posted by: tubal at December 23, 2024 09:31 AM (PCK5/)

6 But Turkeys come from the store!


Nice painting.

Posted by: Stateless at December 23, 2024 09:31 AM (jvJvP)

7 It's better than plucking that chicken.

Posted by: ShainS -- President-Elect Musk will appoint Vivek to Speaker Of The House! at December 23, 2024 09:32 AM (r4wS6)

8 The MET

Title: Preparing for Christmas (Plucking Turkeys)

Artist: Francis William Edmonds (American, Hudson, New York 1806–1863 Bronxville, New York)

Date: 1851

Culture: American

Medium: Oil on canvas

Dimensions: 23 × 33 in. (58.4 × 83.8 cm)

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2024 09:32 AM (gbOdA)

9 What , no glitter, no wrapping paper???

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 23, 2024 09:32 AM (Sgq8y)

10

Pheasant Pluckers . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 23, 2024 09:32 AM (x0n13)

11 Yech. Uncooked birds and their feathers are nasty. Ain’t no way I’d do that.

Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 09:32 AM (v6JzV)

12 Not what I was expecting on Festivus.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 23, 2024 09:32 AM (NpAcC)

13 Save the neck for me, Clark.

Posted by: Cousin Eddie at December 23, 2024 09:33 AM (Aqu9a)

14 Who needs Turkeys when you have Geese running around?

Posted by: Some Haitian at December 23, 2024 09:33 AM (oZhjI)

15 ha!, they all have bird flu

Posted by: runner at December 23, 2024 09:33 AM (QTCRF)

16 The black kid in the back is playing soul harmonica accompaniment.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2024 09:33 AM (gbOdA)

17 I just barely remember Grammi preparing chickens when I was a wee lad.

But the melee surrounding butchering hogs has stuck (get it?) with me forever.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 23, 2024 09:34 AM (WXNFJ)

18 I wonder, could feathers ever be edible?

Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 09:34 AM (v6JzV)

19 That tall feller, there, looks like the best dressed turkey plucker in Bedford Falls.

Posted by: Paco at December 23, 2024 09:34 AM (mADJX)

20 Are these jive turkeys?

Posted by: dantesed at December 23, 2024 09:34 AM (Oy/m2)

21 Baked Turkey > Jive Turkey

Posted by: 18-1 at December 23, 2024 09:34 AM (oZhjI)

22

I'm likin the looks of this one, boys!

Posted by: Turkey Fucker at December 23, 2024 09:34 AM (otsPU)

23 I knew the little black fella back in Scranton. Named Pee-Wee. He burned down the schoolhouse in second grade. Far as he went in school. Good little worker, but I couldn't understand a word he said.

Posted by: President Emeritus at December 23, 2024 09:35 AM (G5+As)

24 Related poultry:

https://tinyurl.com/mr3sykdj
29 seconds

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 09:35 AM (hovnC)

25 IFYKWIM

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 09:35 AM (4LF+x)

26 This would be a promotion for me!

Posted by: A chicken plucker at December 23, 2024 09:35 AM (PiwSw)

27 You get a nice sense as to how cold it is by the worker blowing on his hands.

Posted by: Tuna at December 23, 2024 09:35 AM (oaGWv)

28 I'm thinking some lemon panettone for breakfast this morning. No turkey.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 23, 2024 09:36 AM (WXNFJ)

29 In the tumultuous decade of the 1850s, when the United States was debating the expansion of slavery into new Western territories, Edmonds and other New York artists often painted works with conspicuously placed African Americans. Generally portrayed as humorous subjects, some were depicted with greater empathy. Edmonds, while educated in Quaker schools with a presumably abolitionist sensibility, here seems to emphasize the Black character’s lack of productivity when compared to the White workers.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2024 09:36 AM (gbOdA)

30 We're having beef tenderloin, but I'd rather have fried turkey for Christmas dinner.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 23, 2024 09:36 AM (NpAcC)

31 Is that what you kids are calling it nowadays?

Posted by: Grandpa Simpson at December 23, 2024 09:36 AM (dg+HA)

32 Not so Festivus for the turkey.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 23, 2024 09:36 AM (Q4IgG)

33 They're just pluckin' around.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 23, 2024 09:36 AM (Y6IkP)

34 The black kid is playing a kazoo to calm the men at their murderous work.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 09:37 AM (hovnC)

35 We're having ham.

Posted by: BignJames at December 23, 2024 09:38 AM (Yj6Os)

36 Who wants the chicken lips?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 23, 2024 09:38 AM (Q4IgG)

37 Is the oversized compass-like tool used for stretching the bird carcasses for easier stuffing??

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 09:38 AM (hovnC)

38 2 Ohhhh.... plucking. I thought it was something else.

My bad.
Posted by: Pete Buttpluger

No, you're thinking of chicken fuckers. No one fucks a turkey.

Posted by: Ernie Anastos at December 23, 2024 09:39 AM (JCZqz)

39 The black kid is playing a kazoo to calm the men at their murderous work.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 09:37 AM (hovnC)

Willie and the Po' Boys?

Posted by: BignJames at December 23, 2024 09:39 AM (Yj6Os)

40 Nicely detailed and appropriate

Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2024 09:39 AM (6omcS)

41 Just go to Costco. Five bucks.

Posted by: Same as in town at December 23, 2024 09:40 AM (dg+HA)

42
The art of turkey preparation has't changed at all.

Long ago and far away, when my folks moved to New Orleans, there was a place that offered fresh turkeys or ducks, and geese for Christmas or Thanksgiving.

And the set up looked almost exactly like that.

A pot of scalding water to loosen the feathers, a group of 3 old Black women, who could strip down a turkey of feathers in about one minute or less, a guy to gut the turkey and cut off it's head, then wash the turkey, dry it off, wrap it and deliver it into your arms blood warm and quivering in five minutes or less.

Super delicious turkeys. Like Trump Brand Turkeys...The Best!!~!

Posted by: naturalfake at December 23, 2024 09:40 AM (iJfKG)

43 👌🦃🦃🦃👌

Posted by: banana Dream at December 23, 2024 09:40 AM (Y6IkP)

44 Edmonds had a double career as an artist and a banker.

Posted by: Tuna at December 23, 2024 09:41 AM (oaGWv)

45 Pluck is a quality that at one time was ascribed to worthy young men.

These days, not so much.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 23, 2024 09:41 AM (a3Q+t)

46 I always think about these questions. Who did the artist sell this type of painting to? Were these type of subjects desirable to display in one’s home? I assume most paintings were purchased by people with means during this time.

Photography was also establishing itself during this period.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 23, 2024 09:41 AM (D6PGr)

47 Visit to Norway in 1961, my grandpa killed a chicken in our honor for dinner. It really did run around a bit after being beheaded.

Posted by: Hate Spunk, Love Pluck at December 23, 2024 09:41 AM (G5+As)

48 Who wants the chicken lips?
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Was at a (real) Chinese place once where the table next to us was full of Chinese old ladies attacking a complete chicken (with head, feet, everything) by means of jousting chopsticks. They damn near fought over the feet. It was the most savage scene I have ever witnessed.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 23, 2024 09:41 AM (WXNFJ)

49 27 You get a nice sense as to how cold gross it is by the worker blowing on his hands about to puke.
Posted by: Tuna

Suggested edit.

Posted by: Fake AoS editor at December 23, 2024 09:41 AM (JCZqz)

50 35 We’re having ham.

He’ll talk your ear off about all that Deluge stuff. Japheth is much more laid back, especially once you get a little mead into him.

Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 09:42 AM (v6JzV)

51 Pluck you all, I got to get out and start my Christmas shopping.

Posted by: From about That Time at December 23, 2024 09:42 AM (4780s)

52 No dog. Not art.

Posted by: m at December 23, 2024 09:42 AM (VnUSN)

53 A pot of scalding water to loosen the feathers, a group of 3 old Black women, who could strip down a turkey of feathers in about one minute or less, a guy to gut the turkey and cut off it's head, then wash the turkey, dry it off, wrap it and deliver it into your arms blood warm and quivering in five minutes or less.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 23, 2024 09:40 AM (iJfKG)

Ya gotta' singe the hair off the bird.

Posted by: BignJames at December 23, 2024 09:42 AM (Yj6Os)

54 I prefer Christmas goose -- one never knows when one will find a giant blue carbuncle in its crop!

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 09:43 AM (hovnC)

55 So who's having sex with the hen?

https://youtu.be/Dii5OlXoeac

Posted by: Frank Costanza at December 23, 2024 09:43 AM (dg+HA)

56 The art of turkey preparation has't changed at all.

Oh boy, here we go...another sous vide thread....

Posted by: Cynical Moron at December 23, 2024 09:43 AM (JCZqz)

57 50 35 We’re having ham.

He’ll talk your ear off about all that Deluge stuff. Japheth is much more laid back, especially once you get a little mead into him.
Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 09:42 AM (v6JzV)


Family, what are you gonna do?

Posted by: Shem at December 23, 2024 09:43 AM (PiwSw)

58 Very nice and seasonable art! It's clearly real winter where they are -- look out through the gate and see the snowscape, and there's snow on the ground outside their barn. The black kid, boy or girl we don't know, is blowing on his/her hands to keep them warm-ish, while the squire in his battered hat and the boy with the beard are plucking away.

The squire (don't know what else to call him) is not wealthy; look at the patched trousers and the seam along his hip -- though that could be a pocket -- and his hat needs reblocking.

Plus a fire is smoldering under the black pot to the right, ready for the turkey, I suppose.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 23, 2024 09:43 AM (omVj0)

59 That's one turkey who's no longer in the straw.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 23, 2024 09:44 AM (a3Q+t)

60 52 No dog. Not art.
Posted by: m

The Haitians are plucking them on the other side of town.

Posted by: Turkey Pluckers at December 23, 2024 09:44 AM (JCZqz)

61 The black kid is the Gobbler's Apprentice.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 09:44 AM (hovnC)

62 This Christmas no turkeys will be harmed.

The kiddos requested duck this year, sooooooo after reading up, I decided on using Duck Breast and their choice of sauce was Cherries and Port sauce so should be good.

No Prime Rib this time which will be a shocka! But, my new favorite cut of beef is...Picanha!. So, Grilled Picanha with Salsa Verde.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 23, 2024 09:45 AM (iJfKG)

63 No dog. Not art.
Posted by: m at December 23, 2024 09:42 AM (VnUSN)
******
There's a horse in the barn.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 23, 2024 09:45 AM (NpAcC)

64 The guy on the right looks like he’s wearing a Union Army cap.

Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 09:45 AM (v6JzV)

65 Somebody's always plucking up something.

Posted by: tankdemon at December 23, 2024 09:45 AM (phIjg)

66 I remember giving a Christmas goose to a young lady at the Mall in Wilmington. She took offense.

Posted by: Joe, Headed To The Exit at December 23, 2024 09:45 AM (G5+As)

67 Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2024 09:36 AM (gbOdA)

Is that your critique or from another source?

I think that is what today’s woke art critics would want you to believe whether true or not. I don’t think black people in the 1850’s could choose to be layabouts.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 23, 2024 09:46 AM (D6PGr)

68 47 Visit to Norway in 1961, my grandpa killed a chicken in our honor for dinner. It really did run around a bit after being beheaded.
Posted by: Hate Spunk

I think Ace has a similar story about a hobo...

Posted by: Moron Analyst at December 23, 2024 09:46 AM (JCZqz)

69 I shot a wild turkey once, and wow...what a pain in the *ss to clean!

Wild turkey isn't all that tasty, so I never bothered after that.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2024 09:46 AM (d9fT1)

70 Is the oversized compass-like tool used for stretching the bird carcasses for easier stuffing??
Posted by: andycanuck

Nope. Those are tongs to grab and adjust the coals in the fire.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 23, 2024 09:46 AM (WXNFJ)

71
Ya gotta' singe the hair off the bird.
Posted by: BignJames at December 23, 2024 09:42 AM (Yj6Os)


Ah...you're right. I forgot. They had a little torch thing for a quick singe before the gutting.


Posted by: naturalfake at December 23, 2024 09:46 AM (iJfKG)

72 Okay, this is from pre-Civil War, but from New York State? Then the black kid is not a slave.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 23, 2024 09:47 AM (omVj0)

73 We actually DID have a pair of unicorns.
Turned out they were gay.

Posted by: Japeth at December 23, 2024 09:47 AM (dg+HA)

74 Never underestimate Joe’s ability to pluck things up.

Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 09:47 AM (v6JzV)

75 I remember giving a Christmas goose to a young lady at the Mall in Wilmington. She took offense.
Posted by: Joe

I hear you. I was feeling Joy during this season. She got up and left.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 23, 2024 09:47 AM (WXNFJ)

76 Sniper in the house to the right.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 23, 2024 09:48 AM (ZOv7s)

77 Few people today know how terrible the job of plucking any fowl is.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 23, 2024 09:48 AM (N1DT3)

78 69 I shot a wild turkey once, and wow...what a pain in the *ss to clean!

Wild turkey isn't all that tasty, so I never bothered after that.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Concur. I prefer Blanton's, or Buffalo Trace.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at December 23, 2024 09:49 AM (JCZqz)

79 Plucker? I just met her!

Posted by: Rimshot at December 23, 2024 09:49 AM (dg+HA)

80 69 I shot a wild turkey once, and wow...what a pain in the *ss to clean!

Wild turkey isn't all that tasty, so I never bothered after that.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2024 09:46 AM (d9fT1)

-------------------------------

Did you get banned from the liquor store, too?

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 23, 2024 09:49 AM (OGOaV)

81 I hear you. I was feeling Joy during this season. She got up and left.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 23, 2024 09:47 AM


Behar or Reid?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 23, 2024 09:49 AM (a3Q+t)

82 >>>Visit to Norway in 1961, my grandpa killed a chicken in our honor for dinner. It really did run around a bit after being beheaded.

My uncle once decided to have a pig roast. To dispatch said pig, he shot it in the head with a .38. Instead of immediately expiring, it proceeded to run in steadily decreasing circles in the yard, squealing and spewing brain matter in all directions.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 23, 2024 09:49 AM (CwhoI)

83 So a bunch of guys choking the chicken?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 23, 2024 09:49 AM (ZOv7s)

84 So the sniper is plucking the snipes?

Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 09:50 AM (v6JzV)

85 I like to imagine they're baking pies in the house back over yonder.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at December 23, 2024 09:50 AM (b1qe9)

86 77 Few people today know how terrible the job of plucking any fowl is.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian

YouTube has lots of video of homemade chicken plucking machines...they look kinda fun (and silly).

https://tinyurl.com/jrdhaem8

Posted by: Moron Analyst at December 23, 2024 09:51 AM (JCZqz)

87 I hear you. I was feeling Joy during this season. She got up and left.
Posted by: Tonypete

What is brotherhood, other than a little fellow feeling?

Posted by: Tattoo, Loose On Fantasy Island at December 23, 2024 09:51 AM (G5+As)

88 Norman Rockwell did at least a dozen Christmas themed paintings. I can’t believe he has critics in the art world.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 23, 2024 09:51 AM (D6PGr)

89 69 I shot a wild turkey once, and wow...what a pain in the *ss to clean!

Wild turkey isn't all that tasty, so I never bothered after that.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2024 09:46 AM (d9fT1)

======

But Red Dead Redemption 2 makes it look so easy!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 09:51 AM (4LF+x)

90 I prefer Blanton's, or Buffalo Trace.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at December 23, 2024 09:49 AM (JCZqz)

Did you get banned from the liquor store, too?

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 23, 2024 09:49 AM (OGOaV)

I sense a theme.

And...we had a bourbon tasting yesterday, so maybe it is valid!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2024 09:52 AM (d9fT1)

91 The guy on the right looks like he’s wearing a Union Army cap.
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The brim is too large and there's wool or fur backing and small ear-flaps to pull down in really cold weather, I assume and not decorative.

BTW, great picture link, CBD. It's an excellent hi-def scan.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 09:52 AM (hovnC)

92 Makes you appreciate modern conveniences even more, doesn't it?

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at December 23, 2024 09:52 AM (Hw6WF)

93 I shot a wild turkey once, and wow...what a pain in the *ss to clean!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2024 09:46 AM (d9fT1)
-

Shattered glass.

Shattered glass everywhere.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 23, 2024 09:53 AM (GHvvy)

94 So the sniper is plucking the snipes?
Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 09:50 AM (v6JzV)
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He's invisible because no one thinks to look on a roof with a pitch to it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 23, 2024 09:53 AM (ZOv7s)

95 I shot a wild turkey once, and wow...what a pain in the *ss to clean!

Wild turkey isn't all that tasty, so I never bothered after that.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

======

But Red Dead Redemption 2 makes it look so easy!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Sure shooting em is easy, but you've gotta ask yourself "why?"

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at December 23, 2024 09:53 AM (b1qe9)

96 81 Behar or Reid?

Adamson. Hubba hubba.

Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 09:53 AM (v6JzV)

97 What's in the basket? The heads?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 23, 2024 09:54 AM (Q4IgG)

98 Wakes up
Scratches
Looks around
Dang. Last hunting trip I was on in Northern Idaho, there were turkeys everywhere. But we were after elk.
Goes looking for coffee.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 23, 2024 09:54 AM (W/lyH)

99 Concur. I prefer Blanton's, or Buffalo Trace.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at December 23, 2024 09:49 AM (JCZqz)
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I like Wild Turkey 101. Good quality for the price.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 23, 2024 09:54 AM (ZOv7s)

100 BTW, great picture link, CBD. It's an excellent hi-def scan.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 09:52 AM (hovnC)

Those are rare, but loads of fun. It makes it a pleasure to look at the art.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2024 09:54 AM (d9fT1)

101 Thanks, CBD. It's a fun one.

Preparing for Christmas (Plucking Turkeys)
Francis William Edmonds
Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM

Posted by: m at December 23, 2024 09:54 AM (VnUSN)

102 He's invisible because no one thinks to look on a roof with a pitch to it.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 23, 2024 09:53 AM (ZOv7s)

Or even if it’s flat if the weather is too hot or too cold.

Posted by: Secret Service at December 23, 2024 09:54 AM (D6PGr)

103 Nice sky and snow and I like the colors of the pants and the red jacket.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 23, 2024 09:54 AM (zwuvW)

104 Long ago and far away, when my folks moved to New Orleans, there was a place that offered fresh turkeys or ducks, and geese for Christmas or Thanksgiving. . . .

Posted by: naturalfake at December 23, 2024


***
Natural, do you remember where that shop was located?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 23, 2024 09:54 AM (omVj0)

105 I shot an elephant in my pajamas.

Posted by: Julius Marx at December 23, 2024 09:54 AM (G5+As)

106 Praying over Plucked Chickens. Thx CBD, me like. Would hang

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 23, 2024 09:55 AM (DopAq)

107 95 But Red Dead Redemption 2 makes it look so easy!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Sure shooting em is easy, but you've gotta ask yourself "why?"
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at December 23, 2024 09:53 AM (b1qe9)

======

For the flight feathers so I can make small game arrows and get perfect squirrel pelts.

I have a satchel I got my eyes on.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 09:55 AM (4LF+x)

108 Those are rare, but loads of fun. It makes it a pleasure to look at the art.
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Definitely!

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 09:55 AM (hovnC)

109 I like Wild Turkey 101. Good quality for the price.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

Forget that bird! If you want REAL value, come my way!

Posted by: Old Crow Bourbon at December 23, 2024 09:55 AM (JCZqz)

110 Phew! Made it to 100 comments.

naturalfake - In case you missed it in the previous thread, the name of the game I mentioned is PicWits. One player (the judge) flips a caption card, and the rest of the players choose the card they feel best fits. The judge then chooses their favorite.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 23, 2024 09:56 AM (OGOaV)

111 If you by chance listened to the podcast of Napoleonic wars
Episode Christmas Before Dickens, swans were the common Christmas dinner but around this time turkeyd were raised better and that became the usual Christmas dinner

Posted by: Skip at December 23, 2024 09:56 AM (6omcS)

112 New York Daily News@NYDailyNews
Woman dies after she catches fire in Brooklyn subway car; NYPD suspects homicide

-
I blame global warming!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 23, 2024 09:56 AM (L/fGl)

113 How do you get down from a turkey??

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 09:57 AM (hovnC)

114 Concur. I prefer Blanton's, or Buffalo Trace.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at December 23, 2024 09:49 AM (JCZqz)
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I like Wild Turkey 101. Good quality for the price.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 23, 2024 09:54 AM (ZOv7s)


Concur. In fact all three are good choices.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 23, 2024 09:57 AM (W/lyH)

115 We actually DID have a pair of unicorns.
Turned out they were gay.
Posted by: Japeth at December 23, 2024


***
I wouldn't trust those little bastards. If you've got a switchblade on your forehead, sooner or later you're gonna use it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 23, 2024 09:57 AM (omVj0)

116 Then you sell the feathers to the mattress-makers and pillow companies.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 09:57 AM (hovnC)

117 Preparing for Christmas (Plucking Turkeys)
Francis William Edmonds American
1851
On view at The Met Fifth Avenue in Gallery 736

In part, "In the tumultuous decade of the 1850s, when the United States was debating the expansion of slavery into new Western territories, Edmonds and other New York artists often painted works with conspicuously placed African Americans. Generally portrayed as humorous subjects, some were depicted with greater empathy. Edmonds, while educated in Quaker schools with a presumably abolitionist sensibility, here seems to emphasize the Black character’s lack of productivity when compared to the White workers. The painting was featured in the 1852 auction of the American Art-Union, a subscription-based organization that promoted American art nationally through exhibitions and the distribution of popular prints."

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I thought it was a Union soldier taking turkeys with the help of the gentleman farmer & the young Black worker wanted no part of it. 🤷‍♀️

It's a nicely done painting by a painter who had a nice humorous outlook. I'd pass hanging but I'd like to see more of the artist's paintings in a gallery. Thanks.

Posted by: L - Rooster one day, Feather duster another at December 23, 2024 09:57 AM (NFX2v)

118 How do you get down from a turkey??
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024


***
You don't -- you get down from an elephant (and it takes some doing, let me tell you)!
( -- Hannibal Barca)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 23, 2024 09:58 AM (omVj0)

119 Another nice painting in a series of nice paintings. I am really enjoying this theme of people and craftsmen working.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at December 23, 2024 09:58 AM (iSKjm)

120 18 I wonder, could feathers ever be edible?
Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 09:34 AM (v6JzV)

Sous videable?

Posted by: m at December 23, 2024 09:58 AM (VnUSN)

121 Today’s evangelical Islam signs on the back of a car at supermarket:

“Jesus was a Muslim. ____( can’t recall the number) people can’t be wrong.”

Wow; that was both egregiously wrong and anti semetic.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 23, 2024 09:58 AM (zwuvW)

122 I shot a wild turkey once, and wow...what a pain in the *ss to clean!

Wild turkey isn't all that tasty, so I never bothered after that.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2024 09:46 AM (d9fT1)


Shot or ran over with your car. I'm pretty sure it was the latter.

Aaaaaanyway, next time you're at a TXMOME go hunt one of the World Famous Uvalde Wild Turkeys.

They feed heavily on Chili Piquins which flavors the meat and makes them exquisitely delicious.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 23, 2024 09:59 AM (iJfKG)

123 ---
I thought it was a Union soldier taking turkeys with the help of the gentleman farmer & the young Black worker wanted no part of it. 🤷‍♀️

It's a nicely done painting by a painter who had a nice humorous outlook. I'd pass hanging but I'd like to see more of the artist's paintings in a gallery. Thanks.
Posted by: L - Rooster one day, Feather duster another at December 23, 2024


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The bearded boy's cap is blue, for sure, but in 1851 were Union uniforms khaki?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 23, 2024 09:59 AM (omVj0)

124 I like when you enlarge and look at the house in the background you can see that fine detail is not necessary the farther the subject is away in the painting. It’s part of the atmospheric Perspective technique that painters have to use to have the viewers subconscious see it as they would in real life.

Posted by: Secret Service at December 23, 2024 09:59 AM (D6PGr)

125 An iconic star in the 1986 blockbuster Crocodile Dundee has died.

Burt, the 5.1-metre 700kg monster crocodile from the comedy adventure film, who starred alongside Paul Hogan, died in captivity in Darwin.

He was thought to have been over 90 years old.

Crocosaurus Cove, a crocodile herpetarium and aquarium attraction which had kept Burt in captivity since 2008, announced the reptile's death on Monday.

Known for his independent nature, Burt was a confirmed bachelor — an attitude he made clear during his earlier years at a crocodile farm.

"His fiery temperament earned him the respect of his caretakers and visitors alike, as he embodied the raw and untamed spirit of the saltwater crocodile.

Burt was truly one of a kind. He wasn't just a crocodile; he was a force of nature and a reminder of the power and majesty of these incredible creatures.

While his personality could be challenging, it was also what made him so memorable and beloved by those who worked with him and the thousands who visited him over the years. Visitors from around the globe marvelled at his impressive size and commanding presence, especially at feeding time."

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 23, 2024 10:00 AM (a3Q+t)

126 Forget that bird! If you want REAL value, come my way!
Posted by: Old Crow Bourbon at December 23, 2024 09:55 AM (JCZqz)
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I have little regard for expert opinion in general, but in liquor it's especially prone to cost-based snobbishness. If I find a discount brand that I like, that's a pure win.

I did try Old Crow, and yeah, not so good. I think the hands-down best value in bourbon is Evan Williams BIB (aka white label). It's not the best overall, but for what you pay, it does quite well.

I judge liquor by its quality within its price point. I expect $40/bottle to taste better than $20, but I want it to be a massive improvement. I tried two new bourbons recently becasue I got coupons, and while both were good, they didn't justify the price tag.

This is doubly true in Michigan, which is a liquor control state and we all get ripped off.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 23, 2024 10:00 AM (ZOv7s)

127 Today’s evangelical Islam signs on the back of a car at supermarket:

“Jesus was a Muslim. ____( can’t recall the number) people can’t be wrong.”

Wow; that was both egregiously wrong and anti semetic.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 23, 2024 09:58 AM (zwuvW)


Not to mention chronologically impossible.

Maybe it's like the Mormon thing where you can claim your non-Mormon ancestors as Bonus Mormons retroactively.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 23, 2024 10:00 AM (iJfKG)

128 I like Wild Turkey 101. Good quality for the price.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

Forget that bird! If you want REAL value, come my way!
Posted by: Old Crow Bourbon at December 23, 2024


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Remember their "travel" fifth? A flattened bottle that would fit in a suitcase, with a cap that could act as a cup.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 23, 2024 10:01 AM (omVj0)

129 125 An iconic star in the 1986 blockbuster Crocodile Dundee has died.

Burt, the 5.1-metre 700kg monster crocodile from the comedy adventure film, who starred alongside Paul Hogan, died in captivity in Darwin.

He was thought to have been over 90 years old.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 23, 2024 10:00 AM (a3Q+t)

Another fatality of the Biden regime.

Posted by: m at December 23, 2024 10:01 AM (VnUSN)

130 BTW, great picture link, CBD. It's an excellent hi-def scan.

Posted by: andycanuck

Agreed! Without zooming in I wouldn't have seen the blood dripping from the left hanging bird's neck.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at December 23, 2024 10:02 AM (b1qe9)

131 129 125 An iconic star in the 1986 blockbuster Crocodile Dundee has died.

Burt, the 5.1-metre 700kg monster crocodile from the comedy adventure film, who starred alongside Paul Hogan, died in captivity in Darwin.

He was thought to have been over 90 years old.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 23, 2024 10:00 AM (a3Q+t)

Another fatality of the Biden regime.
Posted by: m at December 23, 2024 10:01 AM (VnUSN)

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Had he died a few years back, it would have been put down to COVID.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 23, 2024 10:02 AM (OGOaV)

132 I remember giving a Christmas goose to a young lady at the Mall in Wilmington. She took offense.
Posted by: Joe

I hear you. I was feeling Joy during this season. She got up and left.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 23, 2024 09:47 AM (WXNFJ)

No takers on offers to see my Yule Log. It's puzzling.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 23, 2024 10:02 AM (Aqu9a)

133 The bearded boy's cap is blue, for sure, but in 1851 were Union uniforms khaki?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 23, 2024 09:59 AM (omVj0)
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The US Army at that time numbered only 16,000 personnel. State militias were larger, but were not required to wear any kind of standardized uniforms. Visored caps were also a thing.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 23, 2024 10:03 AM (ZOv7s)

134 Burt, the 5.1-metre 700kg monster crocodile

that something like 3 miles

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2024 10:03 AM (gbOdA)

135 I thought it was a Union soldier taking turkeys with the help of the gentleman farmer & the young Black worker wanted no part of it. 🤷‍♀️
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That turkey is "se-sesh"!!

Kill 'em all!!!

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 10:03 AM (hovnC)

136 Phew! Made it to 100 comments.

naturalfake - In case you missed it in the previous thread, the name of the game I mentioned is PicWits. One player (the judge) flips a caption card, and the rest of the players choose the card they feel best fits. The judge then chooses their favorite.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 23, 2024 09:56 AM (OGOaV)


Thank you, Sir or Madame!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at December 23, 2024 10:03 AM (iJfKG)

137 It's "Türkiye," infidel haters!!!
-- T. Erdogan, Sultan-in-Waiting

Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 10:03 AM (v6JzV)

138 Remember their "travel" fifth? A flattened bottle that would fit in a suitcase, with a cap that could act as a cup.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 23, 2024 10:01 AM (omVj0)
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Right, because you won't want to be uncouth and drink straight from the bottle while you're tying one on in the bus lounge.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 23, 2024 10:04 AM (ZOv7s)

139 But Turkeys come from the store!


Nice painting.
Posted by: Stateless at December 23, 2024 09:31 AM (jvJvP)

Last couple of turkeys I've cooked have needed additional plucking when taken from the bag. I'd swear that didn't used to be the case.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 23, 2024 10:04 AM (lFFaq)

140 Played a new game this weekend called Bad Job Interviews. Each turn, one player is the boss, who draws a job card, and the other players draw cards with dubious qualifications that they have to use to interview for it. It can be hilarious, though if you gave impressionable youths playing, you may want to remove some of the occupations and skills from the deck first.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 23, 2024 10:04 AM (RXTAs)

141 132 I remember giving a Christmas goose to a young lady at the Mall in Wilmington. She took offense.
Posted by: Joe

I hear you. I was feeling Joy during this season. She got up and left.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 23, 2024 09:47 AM (WXNFJ)

No takers on offers to see my Yule Log. It's puzzling.
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 23, 2024 10:02 AM (Aqu9a)

And I was planning on coming down a chimney or 2.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2024 10:05 AM (gbOdA)

142 No takers on offers to see my Yule Log. It's puzzling.
Posted by: Count de Monet

*makes 'call me' gesture*
-- Pete Buttigieg

Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 10:05 AM (v6JzV)

143 Today’s evangelical Islam signs on the back of a car at supermarket:

“Jesus was a Muslim. ____( can’t recall the number) people can’t be wrong.”

Wow; that was both egregiously wrong and anti semetic.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 23, 2024 09:58 AM (zwuvW)
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Yeh. Yeh.

And Adam was a Muslim and it was Yishmael who Abraham offered up, not Isaac.

Yada. Yada.

Everyone else lied but Mohatmed holds the brew that is true. Piss be upon him.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 23, 2024 10:05 AM (GHvvy)

144 No takers on offers to see my Yule Log. It's puzzling.
Posted by: Count de Monet

Did you put it in a box?

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at December 23, 2024 10:06 AM (b1qe9)

145 U.S. President-elect Donald Trump said on Sunday he will rename Denali, Alaska natives' name for North America's tallest mountain, after William McKinley, the 25th U.S. president who was assassinated in 1901.

Democratic former President Barack Obama in 2015 officially renamed the mountain as Denali, siding with the state of Alaska and ending a decades-long naming battle. The peak had been officially called Mount McKinley since 1917


Funnily enough, I'm on board with this move, although I don't care much for what the mountain ends up being named. The President alone being able to rename things is probably wrong, but if congress is going to let it happen, our Presidents should push back and start renaming things, too. Once the Left gets a taste of its own medicine, maybe some checks and balances will be put in place.

I also hope Trump starts declaring areas Lefties want to develop as "National Monuments". Oh, California wants to build a giant solar farm somewhere? Too bad, that land is now a national monuments. Oh, Bezos wants to build a giant mansion along the California coast? Now a small, 50 acre national monument.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at December 23, 2024 10:06 AM (JCZqz)

146 142 No takers on offers to see my Yule Log. It's puzzling.
Posted by: Count de Monet

*makes 'call me' gesture*
-- Pete Buttigieg
Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 10:05 AM (v6JzV)

Nice dick

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2024 10:06 AM (gbOdA)

147 134 Burt, the 5.1-metre 700kg monster crocodile

that something like 3 miles
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2024 10:03 AM (gbOdA)

?

Posted by: m at December 23, 2024 10:06 AM (VnUSN)

148
Had he died a few years back, it would have been put down to COVID.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 23, 2024 10:02 AM (OGOaV)

I wonder if he was jabbed.

I recall a number of stories of beloved zoo ani,als dying post jab.

Posted by: Stateless at December 23, 2024 10:06 AM (jvJvP)

149 Long ago and far away, when my folks moved to New Orleans, there was a place that offered fresh turkeys or ducks, and geese for Christmas or Thanksgiving. . . .

Posted by: naturalfake at December 23, 2024

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Natural, do you remember where that shop was located?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 23, 2024 09:54 AM (omVj0)


No, sorry. It was in the sort of run down old section of NO. This was pre-levee busting flooding though so it may be gone.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 23, 2024 10:06 AM (iJfKG)

150 I just finished a pint of Seagram’s 7 I had in my prep cache . Can’t notice quality if you had it with seven up. Definitely triggered memories of going to school football games where you would get a concession drink and take out your boot whiskey and mix your drink in the stands while bending over not to be too obvious.

Posted by: Secret Service at December 23, 2024 10:07 AM (D6PGr)

151 Today’s evangelical Islam signs on the back of a car at supermarket:

“Jesus was a Muslim. ____( can’t recall the number) people can’t be wrong.”

Wow; that was both egregiously wrong and anti semetic.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

The Muzzies retroactively Islamicize everyone and everything. It truly is a BS "religion."

Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 10:07 AM (v6JzV)

152 For those with no homey hearth in their home, there is a wonderful Grateful Dead Yule Log running on Youtube. And they sell Grateful Dead dreidels on that same page.

Posted by: Penguin Liberation Front at December 23, 2024 10:08 AM (G5+As)

153 Maybe it's like the Mormon thing where you can claim your non-Mormon ancestors as Bonus Mormons retroactively.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 23, 2024 10:00 AM (iJfKG)
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They have to do that go get past the illogic of God allowing all Christians to be heretics until 1830 or whatever.

I mean, if you're going to send a messiah to redeem mankind, maybe get it right the first time?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 23, 2024 10:08 AM (ZOv7s)

154 They Were Flying Off The Shelves - a limerick

An old turkey farmer had a notion
To offer a holiday promotion
Buy one, get one free
'Twas a grand sight to see
All of that poultry in motion!

Posted by: muldoon at December 23, 2024 10:08 AM (991eG)

155 The Muzzies retroactively Islamicize everyone and everything. It truly is a BS "religion."
Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 10:07 AM (v6JzV)
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Islam is a Christian heresy. There was no Mohammed. This is known.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 23, 2024 10:08 AM (ZOv7s)

156 Last couple of turkeys I've cooked have needed additional plucking when taken from the bag. I'd swear that didn't used to be the case.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 23, 2024 10:04 AM (lFFaq)

Americans apparently did better than the immigrants employed now.

Posted by: Stateless at December 23, 2024 10:09 AM (jvJvP)

157 An iconic star in the 1986 blockbuster Crocodile Dundee has died.

Burt, the 5.1-metre 700kg monster crocodile from the comedy adventure film, who starred alongside Paul Hogan, died in captivity in Darwin.


Those bastards kept giving me the COVID vaccination! I knew it would be the death of me! Who needs 8 boosters in 3 years!?!?!

Posted by: Burt at December 23, 2024 10:09 AM (JCZqz)

158 Off incompetent sock

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 23, 2024 10:10 AM (D6PGr)

159 Remember their "travel" fifth? A flattened bottle that would fit in a suitcase, with a cap that could act as a cup.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius,

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I thought you just slipped into the top of your sock and pulled your pants leg over it.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at December 23, 2024 10:10 AM (Hw6WF)

160 I mean, if you're going to send a messiah to redeem mankind, maybe get it right the first time?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 23, 2024 10:08 AM


Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 23, 2024 10:10 AM (a3Q+t)

161 So yeah, to process the poultry, you kill it, drain the blood then scald it in boiling water to loosen the feathers.

That smell of the water is pretty bad; shit, blood, whatever else was on the feathers.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 23, 2024 10:10 AM (PixdE)

162 Islam is a Christian heresy. There was no Mohammed. This is known.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

I'm open to the idea that it started as a Christian heresy. Much less so to the idea that Mohammed did not exist. I think he did exist, just not as subsequent generations of his followers depicted him.

Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 10:10 AM (v6JzV)

163 I thought you just slipped into the top of your sock and pulled your pants leg over it.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at December 23, 2024 10:10 AM (Hw6WF)
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Boot flasks.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 23, 2024 10:10 AM (ZOv7s)

164 And...we had a bourbon tasting yesterday, so maybe it is valid!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 23, 2024 09:52 AM (d9fT1)

Had one a few years back...didn't last very long.

Posted by: BignJames at December 23, 2024 10:11 AM (Yj6Os)

165 The bearded boy's cap is blue, for sure, but in 1851 were Union uniforms khaki?
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Blue for regular Army; grey for state militias that's why the Rebs were mainly wearing grey. The militia from one Northern state kept their grey uniforms I saw in one of my toy-soldier uniform guides but I've forgotten the state now and if they reverted to "Federal blue" at any time.

The kepis were also taller and stiffer like small shakos.

https://tinyurl.com/5ywry5xv
1851 Regulations [that I didn't know was the introduction year when I typed the above -- good guess!]

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 10:11 AM (hovnC)

166 But I don’t want to go on the cart!

Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2024 10:11 AM (ayNux)

167 Americans apparently did better than the immigrants employed now.

Posted by: Stateless


I saw a discussion on Triggernometry this weekend that almost all food processing jobs in the US are now performed by illegals, mostly children.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 23, 2024 10:12 AM (RXTAs)

168 Andycanuck brings the US Civil-War-era uniform knowledge!

Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 10:12 AM (v6JzV)

169 The Muzzies retroactively Islamicize everyone and everything. It truly is a BS "religion."
Posted by: Bulg

I gotta look a converting, and maybe moving to the Middle East!!! Do they charge extra for Islamizing your combo meal!?!? Can I still get bacon on my Carl's Jr meal if it's Islamicized?

Posted by: Michael Moore at December 23, 2024 10:12 AM (JCZqz)

170 28 more days of Biden!...why doesn't CNN have a count-down clock?

Posted by: BignJames at December 23, 2024 10:13 AM (Yj6Os)

171 Few people today know how terrible the job of plucking any fowl is.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 23, 2024 09:48 AM (N1DT3)

Try doing it with the sun beating directly on you. The smell is horrific. I am *thrilled* to get my chicken from the store now.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 23, 2024 10:13 AM (lFFaq)

172 There seems to be more acceptable variation with Christmas Dinner than there is with Thanksgiving Dinner.

I know that turkey is traditional, but I've also seen goose and ham pretty routinely. Some of the Mediterraneans do the "feat of the seven fishes" thing, too.

This year at Casa Mannix, it will be a rib roast. Not traditional, perhaps, but I'm looking forward to it. Unless I ruin a ruinously expensive piece of meat, anyway!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 10:13 AM (HnUIn)

173 My go-to "budget Bourbon" is Old Forrester 100 proof. I think it's $27 here. They have 6 or 7 different blends, some going for around $80 (or more.) It's fine for mixing or pouring over ice if you're not into analyzing every sip and keeping notes.

For a profoundly unique experience try to get ahold of "Mellow Corn." Around here it's about $20 for a fifth. Probably as close to mass produced 'shine as you'll find without being proofed into oblivion or flavored.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 23, 2024 10:13 AM (Q4IgG)

174 The best part about Trump picking fights with Panama and Greenland is
1) people remember they exist
2) only the left takes it seriously
3) it distracts the left from everything else

That's what I'm seeing out of the Trump Reconquista--he intends to keep the left in a constant outrage.
Because they haven't figured it out yet that the whole of the normal public has tuned them out.
Their howling and rage are just white noise in the background now.
The the louder they get, the more shrill they are, the more people that tune them out.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 23, 2024 10:13 AM (PixdE)

175 I'm open to the idea that it started as a Christian heresy. Much less so to the idea that Mohammed did not exist. I think he did exist, just not as subsequent generations of his followers depicted him.
Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 10:10 AM (v6JzV)
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There is no contemporaneous mention of him. Not a single one. The mints that the Muslims conquered continued to produce coins with Christian and Zoroastrian impressions. No mention of the new ruler, which is at odds with every single conqueror in history. The first think you do to legitimize the regime is put your face on the coins, or at least change the slogan.

No one heard of him. We have extensive Byzantine records of that era. No mention of the guy whose ravaging the southlands. Compare this with other enemies. We have the dinner conversations of Attila, chats with Genghis Khan. Nothing about Mohammed.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 23, 2024 10:14 AM (ZOv7s)

176 28 more days of Biden!...why doesn't CNN have a count-down clock?
Posted by: BignJames at December 23, 2024 10:13 AM (Yj6Os)
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If they do, it's framed as a "Countdown to the Orange Apocalypse" ...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 10:14 AM (HnUIn)

177 saw a discussion on Triggernometry this weekend that almost all food processing jobs in the US are now performed by illegals, mostly children.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 23, 2024 10:12 AM (RXTAs)

I can see illegals but question the children claim.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 23, 2024 10:14 AM (D6PGr)

178 Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 23, 2024 10:12 AM (RXTAs)

I've seen stories too. Tyson comes to mind.

Posted by: Stateless at December 23, 2024 10:14 AM (jvJvP)

179 Every J6 political prisoner should be pardoned on January 20th and then we should figure out how to repay them for what this corrupt administration has done to them and their families.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 23, 2024 10:14 AM (LkLld)

180 Renowned actor Denzel Washington was baptized on December 21, 2024, at Kelly Temple Church of God in Christ (COGIC) in New York City, marking a significant milestone in his spiritual journey. The actor, who was emotional during the ceremony, publicly made his Christian confession of faith at his childhood church, where he also received his ministry license — fulfilling a prophecy he said was made over his life decades ago.

Washington, 70, was raised in a Christian household with a Pentecostal minister father and has openly discussed his faith throughout his career. Most notably, he has spoken many times about his experience of being filled with the Holy Spirit.

Posted by: SMOD at December 23, 2024 10:15 AM (RHGPo)

181 Nice art.
We don't do turkey or ham for Christmas dinner.
My grandma started a tradition. She did her family Christmas gathering/meal on Christmas eve. Figuring that everyone would be getting tired of ham and turkey, and would be having more on Christmas day, she came up with the idea of have home made vegetable beef soup. Lots of extra stuff like crackers, cornbread, veggie trays, cheese ball and of course dessert.
The woman used a big pressure canner as a soup pot to make enough for about 30 people. And everyone could have second or even third helping of delicious vegetable beef soup.
After she passed away, Mom and her sisters continued the tradition. And since Mom passed away, I continue to make a big pot of vegetable beef soup every Christmas day.

We only have five of us now, but next Christmas I will have a grandbaby to feed and spoil!

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at December 23, 2024 10:15 AM (4XwPj)

182 I saw a discussion on Triggernometry this weekend that almost all food processing jobs in the US are now performed by illegals, mostly children.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

Please be extra careful about food safety this week. The holiday squirts are no fun. Don't forget the dirtiest square inch in your kitchen!

Posted by: Hints From Heloise at December 23, 2024 10:15 AM (G5+As)

183 Such a grisly scene. My Christmas may very well be ruint!

Posted by: Weasel at December 23, 2024 10:16 AM (1BE4H)

184 Fun Moron Fact: Burt was an enthusiastic lurker on the Food Thread, and a devotee of sous vide.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 23, 2024 10:16 AM (a3Q+t)

185 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

I hope we'll be seeing some busty bikini-and-Santa-hat-clad brunettes, blondes, and redheads from you today.

That Fen can answer with some fully-clad cashmere-sweater- and hip-boot-clad ladies.

Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 10:16 AM (v6JzV)

186 Every J6 political prisoner should be pardoned on January 20th and then we should figure out how to repay them for what this corrupt administration has done to them and their families.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 23, 2024 10:14 AM (LkLld)

I agree pardoned but at the very least all the sentences commuted.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 23, 2024 10:16 AM (D6PGr)

187 My grandma started a tradition. She did her family Christmas gathering/meal on Christmas eve. ...
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at December 23, 2024 10:15 AM (4XwPj)
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Isn't that fairly common? Most people I know do the big Christmas Dinner on Christmas Eve. I don't know if my associates and I are freaks, though...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 10:16 AM (HnUIn)

188 Every J6 political prisoner should be pardoned on January 20th and then we should figure out how to repay them for what this corrupt administration has done to them and their families.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 23, 2024 10:14 AM (LkLld)

Let's convert the Capitol to apartments/condos...rent controlled.

Posted by: BignJames at December 23, 2024 10:17 AM (Yj6Os)

189 Bashar al-Assad’s Wife Asma Files For Divorce From Toppled Syrian Dictator – Now Wants to Return to Britain

... for better or worse ?? one lousy coup was all it took

Posted by: SMOD at December 23, 2024 10:17 AM (RHGPo)

190 Everybody just needs to calm the fuck down!

I have an older brother busting my balls about purchasing gift cards at a local store. Dude, it's covered, I got that last week.

Focus on the food. It's imperative. Let's focus on the priorities. Now get your asses back in the kitchen!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 23, 2024 10:17 AM (/MR36)

191 And let’s be honest, Hogan is a ham. I carried him that entire production.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 23, 2024 10:18 AM (ayNux)

192 My go-to "budget Bourbon" is Old Forrester 100 proof. I think it's $27 here. They have 6 or 7 different blends, some going for around $80 (or more.) It's fine for mixing or pouring over ice if you're not into analyzing every sip and keeping notes.

For a profoundly unique experience try to get ahold of "Mellow Corn." Around here it's about $20 for a fifth. Probably as close to mass produced 'shine as you'll find without being proofed into oblivion or flavored.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 23, 2024 10:13 AM (Q4IgG)
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I keep a collection and rotate between them. My favorite varies from year to year, not sure why. This year I seem to be drawn to Larceny, but Elijah Collins and Woodford Reserve are also favorites.

I'm also looking at brandy as things cool down.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 23, 2024 10:18 AM (ZOv7s)

193 Islam is a Christian heresy. There was no Mohammed. This is known.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

I'm open to the idea that it started as a Christian heresy. Much less so to the idea that Mohammed did not exist. I think he did exist, just not as subsequent generations of his followers depicted him.
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From what I've heard, there is literally no contemporaneous references to Mo.
Not even a spare "some crazy is making noise out in the desert" off-hand reference in some noble's diary.
That is, the only "proof" he ever was is the writings from centuries after that are ascribed to him.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 23, 2024 10:18 AM (PixdE)

194 Great art come to life.

https://is.gd/TWBGaB

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 23, 2024 10:19 AM (L/fGl)

195 Bourbon? Knob Creek. I like it a lot.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 10:19 AM (HnUIn)

196 Please be extra careful about food safety this week. The holiday squirts are no fun. Don't forget the dirtiest square inch in your kitchen!
Posted by: Hints From Heloise at December 23, 2024 10:15 AM (G5+As)


Dat would be the no-no square, Bob.

Posted by: The Newlywed Game at December 23, 2024 10:19 AM (PiwSw)

197 I'm not dead yet!

Posted by: The turkey at December 23, 2024 10:19 AM (dg+HA)

198 Washington, 70, was raised in a Christian household with a Pentecostal minister father and has openly discussed his faith throughout his career. Most notably, he has spoken many times about his experience of being filled with the Holy Spirit.
Posted by: SMOD at December 23, 2024 10:15 AM (RHGPo)
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The spiritual landscape has shifted. We all feel it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 23, 2024 10:20 AM (ZOv7s)

199 I can see illegals but question the children claim.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth

On February 19, 2023, the Arkansas Times reported: On Friday, the U.S. Department of Labor announced that they discovered 102 children ages 13-17 working overnight shifts in plants in Arkansas and across the country. Those young workers were tasked with cleaning up caustic chemicals and sanitizing saws and other processing equipment. Four of those children were working at George’s Inc. in Batesville, and six of them were working at a Tyson facility in Green Forest.

Now, how widespread is it if it's 102 people nationally? Do I have a problem with 16-17 year old working overnight on weekends? Do I trust the media to fairlg report and represent a Fed issue (conducted at the time many Red states were loosening child labor laws)? Many questions and caveats, but it does seem to happen.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at December 23, 2024 10:20 AM (JCZqz)

200 195 Bourbon? Knob Creek. I like it a lot.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Ooh! Chasten and I love that one!

Posted by: Pete Buttigeg at December 23, 2024 10:20 AM (G5+As)

201
The best bourbon living at the corner of deliciousness and value is-

Legent Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey


Runs about $35/btl hereabouts.

Check it out.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 23, 2024 10:21 AM (iJfKG)

202 168 Andycanuck brings the US Civil-War-era uniform knowledge!
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Skip hasn't been busy on this thread this morning to help.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 10:21 AM (hovnC)

203 Ooh! Chasten and I love that one!
Posted by: Pete Buttigeg at December 23, 2024 10:20 AM (G5+As)
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I can't wait 'til you're gone.

I wish you had screwed up like the Atomic Tranny Dog Boy and gotten tossed out on your keister, too.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 10:21 AM (HnUIn)

204 Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

I don't think people just entirely fabricate huge events in their history out of whole cloth. Most legends have some basis in reality. I believe the Mohammed has a basis in historical reality just as the Trojan War, the Hebrew Exodus, King David, and King Arthur do.

Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 10:22 AM (v6JzV)

205 Bourbon? Knob Creek. I like it a lot.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 10:19 AM (HnUIn)

I was much enamored of Knob Creek 'til we had a tasting...there's better/cheaper stuff.

Posted by: BignJames at December 23, 2024 10:22 AM (Yj6Os)

206 Such a grisly scene. My Christmas may very well be ruint!
Posted by: Weasel at December 23, 2024 10:16 AM


Well, that does look like it would take more than 2 minutes to prepare, so...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 23, 2024 10:22 AM (+QlJh)

207 This year at Casa Mannix, it will be a rib roast. Not traditional, perhaps, but I'm looking forward to it. Unless I ruin a ruinously expensive piece of meat, anyway!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 10:13 AM (HnUIn)

We're having rib roast as well. And tamales. Parents are hosting, so I had to give Mom the recipe for the rib roast and mulled cider since neither travel especially well.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 23, 2024 10:23 AM (lFFaq)

208 Supposedly, the dirtiest square inch in your kitchen is the little cutting wheel on your can opener.

Posted by: Hassen Ben Sober at December 23, 2024 10:23 AM (G5+As)

209 Those are Sanitation crews, which don't process the meat and are almost all contracted work. The number of "children" actually touching your food is essentially zero.

Posted by: Wally at December 23, 2024 10:23 AM (B1iUz)

210 On the plus side, they'll have delightful turkey down blankets and pillows for next year.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 10:23 AM (HnUIn)

211 Posted by: Moron Analyst at December 23, 2024 10:20 AM (JCZqz)

I agree with you . I just don’t think it’s ‘mostly children’. Even our incompetent enforcement agencies would not allow that to occur IMO.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 23, 2024 10:23 AM (D6PGr)

212 saw a discussion on Triggernometry this weekend that almost all food processing jobs in the US are now performed by illegals, mostly children.
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Wasn't there a story a while back of Tyson getting raided and they had to offer American-level wages for once?
And there was a line of black men to apply?

After the horrors sex trafficking, the second most disgusting thing about the Dems rabid support for illegal immigration is that it's basically importing slaves.
Again.
Democrats love importing slaves.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 23, 2024 10:23 AM (PixdE)

213 179 Every J6 political prisoner should be pardoned on January 20th and then we should figure out how to repay them for what this corrupt administration has done to them and their families.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Without restitution, then the uniparty still succeeded as the process is the punishment. Plus the message is still there that patriot's protests will be crushed, which isn't the case for whatever protests/riots/etc that comes from the left.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 23, 2024 10:23 AM (fs1hN)

214 The best bourbon is the kind that's used and then presumably dumped out in the process of making scotch whisky barrels.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 23, 2024 10:23 AM (Y6IkP)

215 And now for my Zoroastrian impression!

🔥🔥🔥

Thank you. Thank you. I'll be here all week.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 23, 2024 10:24 AM (hovnC)

216 I saw a discussion on Triggernometry this weekend that almost all food processing jobs in the US are now performed by illegals, mostly children.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 23, 2024 10:12 AM (RXTAs)

I have always thot that all illegal immigration is just slavery.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 23, 2024 10:24 AM (gbOdA)

217 After the horrors sex trafficking, the second most disgusting thing about the Dems rabid support for illegal immigration is that it's basically importing slaves.
Again.
Democrats love importing slaves.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
______

The dems are horrible. But they do have a point.

Posted by: Chamber of Commerce at December 23, 2024 10:24 AM (fs1hN)

218 We're having rib roast as well. And tamales. Parents are hosting, so I had to give Mom the recipe for the rib roast and mulled cider since neither travel especially well.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 23, 2024 10:23 AM (lFFaq)


Tamales for Christmas Eve here.

Normally, Rib Roast with Yorkshire Pudding for Christmas Day buuuuut as stated upstairs, this year will be different.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 23, 2024 10:25 AM (iJfKG)

219 Need an alternative to Amazon.

Faster.

Ladies and gentlemen, the former Mrs. Bezos:

https://tinyurl.com/2s4ztbv5

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 23, 2024 10:25 AM (GHvvy)

220 I like Wild Turkey 101. Good quality for the price.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

I do enjoy Wild Turkey 101. Evan Williams 1783 isn't bad either for a budget bourbon. And for the Costco members, their Kirkland bourbon is pretty good too!

Being the holidays, I'm sipping Bulleit. I do have some 12yr old Scotch I'm saving for when my daughter arrives for Christmas.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 23, 2024 10:25 AM (N39Ws)

221 Well, that does look like it would take more than 2 minutes to prepare, so...
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 23, 2024 10:22 AM (+QlJh)
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Nevertheless, I am afraid the image is seared upon my hippocampus.

Posted by: Weasel at December 23, 2024 10:25 AM (1BE4H)

222 I don't think people just entirely fabricate huge events in their history out of whole cloth. Most legends have some basis in reality. I believe the Mohammed has a basis in historical reality just as the Trojan War, the Hebrew Exodus, King David, and King Arthur do.
Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 10:22 AM (v6JzV)

All the things you listed have a historical basis and evidence.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 23, 2024 10:25 AM (D6PGr)

223 After the horrors sex trafficking, the second most disgusting thing about the Dems rabid support for illegal immigration is that it's basically importing slaves.
Again.
Democrats love importing slaves.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 23, 2024 10:23 AM (PixdE)
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The sex trafficking is slavery, too.

The open border is a slavery scheme. Labor slavery and sex slavery.

Not technical "ownership of people" slavery, but effective slavery. The slave is indentured to the Cartel, and the Cartel operators will murder the slave's family if he doesn't pay. A lot of that money "sent home to my family" by illegals is in fact being sent home to the family - to be handed to the Cartels that trafficked them.

It's often (except for children) not *forced* slavery, but that doesn't change what it is.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 10:26 AM (HnUIn)

224 This year at Casa Mannix, it will be a rib roast. Not traditional, perhaps, but I'm looking forward to it. Unless I ruin a ruinously expensive piece of meat, anyway!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 10:13 AM (HnUIn)

We're having rib roast as well. And tamales. Parents are hosting, so I had to give Mom the recipe for the rib roast and mulled cider since neither travel especially well.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 23, 2024 10:23 AM


Yup. Rib roast at Casa RMBS as well. I'll be trying Chef John's potatoes Romanoff to go with it. And oysters. Oysters are important.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 23, 2024 10:26 AM (+QlJh)

225 Every J6 political prisoner should be pardoned on January 20th and then we should figure out how to repay them for what this corrupt administration has done to them and their families.

Posted by: JackStraw

---------------

BONUS: Every family gets 10 minutes in the octagon with Feh Wray and Ass-Wipe Garland -- with each family member allowed one bludgeoning instrument of choice.

Posted by: ShainS -- President-Elect Musk will appoint Vivek to Speaker Of The House! at December 23, 2024 10:27 AM (kCDtD)

226 Hippocampus is where Trigglypuff matriculated from.

Posted by: Higher Ed at December 23, 2024 10:27 AM (G5+As)

227 U.S. President-elect Donald Trump said on Sunday he will rename Denali,

-
Trump is going to buy Greenland and rename it Orangeland.

https://is.gd/LkZq0d

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 23, 2024 10:27 AM (L/fGl)

228 223 Not technical "ownership of people" slavery, but effective slavery. The slave is indentured to the Cartel, and the Cartel operators will murder the slave's family if he doesn't pay. A lot of that money "sent home to my family" by illegals is in fact being sent home to the family - to be handed to the Cartels that trafficked them.

It's often (except for children) not *forced* slavery, but that doesn't change what it is.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 10:26 AM (HnUIn)

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It's indentured servitude which I was told throughout grade school whenever it would come up in a textbook is the exact same thing as slavery.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 10:27 AM (4LF+x)

229 That is, the only "proof" he ever was is the writings from centuries after that are ascribed to him.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 23, 2024 10:18 AM (PixdE)
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Yep. And this has long been known. Even Gibbon in The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire noted that he could find zero evidence of Mohammed existing in his supposed time.

One of the reasons the Saudis have bulldozed the historic buildings of Mecca is to remove the proof that there were still churches there after the supposed conquest.

The Dome of the Rock is a Christian church, built by heretics who preferred John the Forerunner over Christ (it's complicated).

But the fact remains is that whenever a conqueror appears, some great man rising out of nowhere to shake the world, you can be sure someone will go to the royal court and write about what they saw. The big man is always gracious because he wants his fame to spread.

But Mohammed? Zilch. He's like Perseus, the founder of the Persian Empire inserted after the fact.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 23, 2024 10:28 AM (ZOv7s)

230 After the horrors sex trafficking, the second most disgusting thing about the Dems rabid support for illegal immigration is that it's basically importing slaves.
Again.
Democrats love importing slaves.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice


Can't spell demon without demo crat.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 23, 2024 10:28 AM (jHelr)

231 BONUS: Every family gets 10 minutes in the octagon with Feh Wray and Ass-Wipe Garland -- with each family member allowed one bludgeoning instrument of choice.
Posted by: ShainS -- President-Elect Musk will appoint Vivek to Speaker Of The House! at December 23, 2024 10:27 AM (kCDtD)

I would strongly recommend "Lucille" from The Walking Dead.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 23, 2024 10:28 AM (N39Ws)

232 I seem to recall some islamic prohibition about images of Mohammed. Maybe that applied to (some) historical records as well. Dunno. Any religion that seems to have hatred as its platform is not one I'm interested in.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 23, 2024 10:29 AM (WPL6O)

233 >>After the horrors sex trafficking, the second most disgusting thing about the Dems rabid support for illegal immigration is that it's basically importing slaves.
Again.
Democrats love importing slaves.


IT'S FUNNY HOW THE LEFT HAVE WHITEWASHED HOW CHRISTIANITY IN THE WEST WAS A HUGE MOTIVATOR FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WORKED TO ABOLISH SLAVERY (E.G. WILBERFORCE).

IT ALSO EXPLAINS WHY THE GODLESS LEFT IS OK WITH SLAVERY NOW.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at December 23, 2024 10:29 AM (u1uWe)

234 It's indentured servitude which I was told throughout grade school whenever it would come up in a textbook is the exact same thing as slavery.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 10:27 AM (4LF+x)
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It isn't, but it *can* be if the terms are untenable. Indentures can be done honestly and are not necessarily predatory. Used to happen in higher ed all the time. Some corporation sponsors your education in exchange for a five-year employment commitment, for example. That's an indenture, and not a dishonest or predatory one.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 10:30 AM (HnUIn)

235 The Democrats can do whatever pleases them, - this is America!

If they want to beat their slaves, who am I to stop them?

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 23, 2024 10:30 AM (/MR36)

236 Willowed from last thread:

German 'Deep State' Effort To Ban AfD Faces Major Setback

An AfD ban is unlikely to pass in this legislative period, but efforts are still underway to ban the party...

.. the new way to win when you are losing .. ban your opposition
Posted by: SMOD


Seems Hitler never went away.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 23, 2024 10:31 AM (jHelr)

237 Ladies and gentlemen, the former Mrs. Bezos:
_____

28th Amendment - No taxpayer funding of NGOs, either directly or indirectly. No coordination between NGOs and any government entity either directly or indirectly.

If the left wants to prop them up at least they'll have to continue to burn through their own fortunes and not the taxpayers.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 23, 2024 10:31 AM (fs1hN)

238 Even sharecropping was a form of slavery to me.

Helots were considered slaves.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 23, 2024 10:32 AM (D6PGr)

239 234 It isn't, but it *can* be if the terms are untenable. Indentures can be done honestly and are not necessarily predatory. Used to happen in higher ed all the time. Some corporation sponsors your education in exchange for a five-year employment commitment, for example. That's an indenture, and not a dishonest or predatory one.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 10:30 AM (HnUIn)

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Being indentured to a master tradesman for passage to America is one thing. Being indentured to a drug cartel is something else.

Mostly, my comment was noting the difference in perception slavery has now versus when I was a child.

Slavery then: Anything remotely like keeping people in place without an option to leave.

Slavery now: The black experience in America that's still alive and literally nothing else.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 10:32 AM (4LF+x)

240 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 10:13 AM (HnUIn)

Re: the rib roast

Paula Dean's Foolproof Rib Roast recipe is the one I use. It's on the internet. Only issue would be if your roast was under 3 pounds. Otherwise, season it how you like but cook it exactly as she says.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 23, 2024 10:32 AM (lFFaq)

241 Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

I don't think people just entirely fabricate huge events in their history out of whole cloth. Most legends have some basis in reality. I believe the Mohammed has a basis in historical reality just as the Trojan War, the Hebrew Exodus, King David, and King Arthur do.
Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 10:22 AM (v6JzV)
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When it comes to history, it is. All the examples you listed have written and archeological evidence to back them up.

"Just trust me bro" is not logically sustainable.

The coins are particularly telling. Why would Muslims be minting coins with Christian and "pagan" (Zoroastrian) motifs on them. You'd think they would find that hateful.

And don't say the Arabs were too stupid to fix the mints, artisans could be found. Coinage was a critical part of establishing the legitimacy of a regime. We have Roman emperors who are almost unknown except for their coins.

So a one-off usurper in Gaul has more physical evidence than the founder of a world religion. Let's think about that.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 23, 2024 10:33 AM (ZOv7s)

242 Mohammed was dead by the time the Arabs undertook their great conquests in the Near East and North Africa. He was not a "great conqueror," except in the backwater of the Arabian Peninsula. So they're wouldn't necessarily have been a reason for the non-Muslims to mention him, since they would've been ignorant of the tenets of Islam at that time.

Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 10:33 AM (v6JzV)

243 I'd like to add to the egg discussion below:
Farmers who let their poultry free-range, eat grass, etc. have had zero bird flu cases.

Whether it's the grass, the bugs or that they are just generally heathier, IDK.

Also, as a LOL:
I learned that the first cake mixes were "just add water" and housewives refused to buy them cause it didn't feel like they were doing the "work."
So they removed the powdered eggs and changed it to "add 2 eggs."
And the women folk bought that like crazy. "cause it felt like the were doing something by adding the eggs.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 23, 2024 10:33 AM (PixdE)

244 28th Amendment - No taxpayer funding of NGOs, either directly or indirectly. No coordination between NGOs and any government entity either directly or indirectly.

If the left wants to prop them up at least they'll have to continue to burn through their own fortunes and not the taxpayers.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 23, 2024 10:31 AM (fs1hN)
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There are damn few NGOs. Almost all of them are quasi-NGOs, or "Quangos" as the English call them.

Even at the local level. The local "Meals on Wheels" outfit for elderly shut-ins (a charity type I usually like, but not my local one because they are a bit past "DEI Curious") here gets county funding from a couple of local counties.

Almost no NGOs are actually "non-governmental."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 10:33 AM (HnUIn)

245 House Republicans must really hate Matt Gaetz

Posted by: It's me donna at December 23, 2024 10:34 AM (VE6XX)

246 Mostly, my comment was noting the difference in perception slavery has now versus when I was a child.

Slavery then: Anything remotely like keeping people in place without an option to leave.

Slavery now: The black experience in America that's still alive and literally nothing else.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 10:32 AM (4LF+x)
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Oh, I dig it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 10:34 AM (HnUIn)

247 Re: the rib roast

Paula Dean's Foolproof Rib Roast recipe is the one I use. It's on the internet. Only issue would be if your roast was under 3 pounds. Otherwise, season it how you like but cook it exactly as she says.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 23, 2024 10:32 AM (lFFaq)
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I'll check it out, thank you.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 10:34 AM (HnUIn)

248 245 House Republicans must really hate Matt Gaetz
Posted by: It's me donna at December 23, 2024 10:34 AM (VE6XX)

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He toppled McCarthy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 10:34 AM (4LF+x)

249 246 Oh, I dig it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 10:34 AM (HnUIn)

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You sound like a jive turkey.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 10:35 AM (4LF+x)

250
He toppled McCarthy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 10:34 AM (4LF+x)

I figured that's where the hate is coming from

Posted by: It's me donna at December 23, 2024 10:35 AM (VE6XX)

251
>>@Dapper_Det
·
>>1h
>>BREAKING: Joe Biden just commuted the death sentence of Jorge Torrez a convicted serial kiIIer, kidnapper and twice chiId rapist.

>>Biden’s legacy: flooding America with child rapists, while sparing the lives of these monsters convicted and sentenced to death

Posted by: JackStraw at December 23, 2024 10:35 AM (LkLld)

252 So, what would've been the Arabs' motivation for inventing the founder of their "religion?" Somebody founded Islam, so why not just give credit to they guy who actually did, if it wasn't Mohammed?

Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 10:35 AM (v6JzV)

253 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 10:30 AM (HnUIn)

I believe indentured was less bad than the H1B system used now, because the indentured were *expected* to stay after fulfilling their contract.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 23, 2024 10:35 AM (lFFaq)

254 You sound like a jive turkey.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 10:35 AM (4LF+x)
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The Jiviest.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 10:35 AM (HnUIn)

255 I wish you had screwed up like the Atomic Tranny Dog Boy and gotten tossed out on your keister, too.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 10:21 AM (HnUIn)
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He has done literally nothing for 4 years.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 23, 2024 10:35 AM (RIvkX)

256 Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 10:33 AM (v6JzV)

No contemporary historical evidence found in that backwater area either.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 23, 2024 10:36 AM (D6PGr)

257 250
He toppled McCarthy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 10:34 AM (4LF+x)

I figured that's where the hate is coming from
Posted by: It's me donna at December 23, 2024 10:35 AM (VE6XX)

=======

They didn't like him before, but that action just made him unredeamable.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 10:36 AM (4LF+x)

258 I believe indentured was less bad than the H1B system used now, because the indentured were *expected* to stay after fulfilling their contract.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 23, 2024 10:35 AM (lFFaq)
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H1Bs are a different category, I think. There are some similarities, but many more differences.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 10:36 AM (HnUIn)

259 I seem to recall some islamic prohibition about images of Mohammed. Maybe that applied to (some) historical records as well. Dunno. Any religion that seems to have hatred as its platform is not one I'm interested in.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 23, 2024 10:29 AM (WPL6O)
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Right, and the Eastern Roman Empire totally would have respected that.

There was a "burning of the books" early on, which is why the only authorized Korans are those using Ottoman-approved texts. There are, here and there, fragments of earlier ones, but no one wants to talk about them.

Western Islamic scholars typically publish under assumed names for a reason.

And you have to ask yourself: why the secrecy?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 23, 2024 10:36 AM (ZOv7s)

260 And you have to ask yourself: why the secrecy?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 23, 2024 10:36 AM (ZOv7s)
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:: whistles nonchalantly ::

Posted by: Classification Officer, stamping every document produced at all levels at December 23, 2024 10:38 AM (HnUIn)

261 President Trump Calls for “Ownership and Control” of Greenland

Posted by: SMOD at December 23, 2024 10:39 AM (RHGPo)

262 261 President Trump Calls for “Ownership and Control” of Greenland
Posted by: SMOD at December 23, 2024 10:39 AM (RHGPo)

Is it for sale ?

Posted by: It's me donna at December 23, 2024 10:39 AM (VE6XX)

263 Did you all see that Li is leaving the Democrat Party?

Called it a cult.

Trump team has already reached out to her.
And her network of millions in fundraising.

Do you see the shape taking form of Trump killing the GOPe and their stranglehold on campaign funds?

Mitch et al. have scuttled their last races; they have spent the last of their power for ... nothing.
Excellent.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 23, 2024 10:39 AM (PixdE)

264 Prime rib is not my favorite cut. Not even in the top five.

Tenderloin
Ribeye
T-Bone
Porterhouse
NY Strip

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 23, 2024 10:39 AM (jHelr)

265 Oh, I dig it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 10:34 AM (HnUIn)

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You sound like a jive turkey.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 10:35 AM


Consider the possibility that he's over 29?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 23, 2024 10:39 AM (a3Q+t)

266 Mohammad was the prototype for guys like Epstein and Diddy Combs. Roll models like Hitler and Stalin and Biden.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 23, 2024 10:40 AM (/MR36)

267 Slay Berries? Who's ever heard of slay berries?

Posted by: Snozzberries at December 23, 2024 10:40 AM (fEODp)

268 I believe indentured was less bad than the H1B system used now, because the indentured were *expected* to stay after fulfilling their contract.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 23, 2024 10:35 AM (lFFaq)
+++++

H1Bs are required to remain employed, else leave the country

I knew one who changed jobs just before a major layoff

Posted by: SMOD at December 23, 2024 10:40 AM (RHGPo)

269 President Trump Calls for “Ownership and Control” of Greenland
Posted by: SMOD

We actually had a protectorate over Greenland from 1940-1945, when Denmark was under German occupation. The Germans tried to establish bases in Greenland, and we had to kick them out. We fought the Germans in Greenland before we had officially entered the war.

Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 10:41 AM (v6JzV)

270 264 Prime rib is not my favorite cut. Not even in the top five.

Tenderloin
Ribeye
T-Bone
Porterhouse
NY Strip
_____

Doesn't the T-Bone include a filet mignon and a NY Strip ? The meat near the bone, oh my*.


*NOT a George Takei reference.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 23, 2024 10:41 AM (fs1hN)

271 263 Mitch et al. have scuttled their last races; they have spent the last of their power for ... nothing.
Excellent.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 23, 2024 10:39 AM (PixdE)

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Winning by losing just leads to losing.

The GOP has been enthralled to the strategy for more than a decade, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 23, 2024 10:42 AM (4LF+x)

272 123. The bearded boy's cap is blue, for sure, but in 1851 were Union uniforms khaki?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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I think the Union's colors were mostly black and blue but that could have been after 1851 or so. 🤷‍♀️

Wikipedia, in part, "Uniforms of The military uniforms of the Union Army in the American Civil War were widely varied and, due to limitations on supply of wool and other materials, based on availability and cost of materials.[1] The ideal uniform was prescribed as a dark blue coat with lighter pants, with a black hat. Officer's ranks were denoted with increasing levels of golden decoration. Specific jobs, companies, and units had markedly different styles at times, often following European customs such as that of the Zouaves."

AI - The typical color of Union soldier hats during the American Civil War was black:
Forage cap
The most common hat for Union soldiers was a blue forage cap with a black leather visor. The 1858 model had a welt around the crown in the branch color, but this was discontinued in 1861 in favor of a dark blue welt for all branches.

Posted by: L - Rooster one day, Feather duster another at December 23, 2024 10:42 AM (NFX2v)

273 Slay Berries? Who's ever heard of slay berries?
Posted by: Snozzberries


Slay berries or sloe berries?

Sloe screw up against the wall.

Sloe gin fizz, screwdriver, & Harvey Wallbanger.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 23, 2024 10:42 AM (jHelr)

274 So, what would've been the Arabs' motivation for inventing the founder of their "religion?" Somebody founded Islam, so why not just give credit to they guy who actually did, if it wasn't Mohammed?
Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 10:35 AM (v6JzV)
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They destroyed all the historical buildings. What religion does that?

Islam started as a Christian heresy, of which there were many in Syria (kind of a hotbed for that kind of thing). Add in the usual hatred of taxes, and you get a rebellion that forces the Empire to pull back at a time when it is in a death struggle with Persia.

The heretics have a particular hatred for orthodox Christians (which is why they convert churches rather than destroy them) but also inhereted the Christian dislike of pagan Zoroastrianism, so those temples are torn down.

This is where the "you can't convert" comes from, because it's not leaving the faith, it's embracing heresy to them.

Lots of threads out there for those who want to look.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 23, 2024 10:42 AM (ZOv7s)

275 30 We're having beef tenderloin, but I'd rather have fried turkey for Christmas dinner.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 23, 2024 09:36 AM (NpAcC)

Married into an Eastern European (Ukie) family - its perogies, pauska (type of egg bread), mushroom gravy, and whatever the eldest daughter concocts for Christmas Eve, Turkey Devonshire and scalloped potatoes, and broccoli\cauliflower with cheese sauce, plus cold ham for Christmas.

Axios and a Merry Christmas to the Horde!

Posted by: Pinochet Flight Attendant at December 23, 2024 10:43 AM (zL/eJ)

276 He has done literally nothing for 4 years.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

Fake news. Yeah, the lady got torched by the illegal, but that train was on time.

Posted by: Secretary of Transportation at December 23, 2024 10:43 AM (G5+As)

277 H1Bs are required to remain employed, else leave the country

I knew one who changed jobs just before a major layoff
Posted by: SMOD at December 23, 2024 10:40 AM (RHGPo)
++++
This is the primary mechanism through which H1B saturation results in broader wage compression.

The H1B problem would be trivially easy to fix.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 10:43 AM (HnUIn)

278 The H1B problem would be trivially easy to fix.
______

You think so?

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at December 23, 2024 10:44 AM (fs1hN)

279 Greenland seems an odd thing to make so much noise about, I wonder what Trump is playing at in this.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 23, 2024 10:44 AM (wyMQY)

280 There are no penguins in Greenland. Just putting that out there.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at December 23, 2024 10:44 AM (PiwSw)

281 Doesn't the T-Bone include a filet mignon and a NY Strip ? The meat near the bone, oh my*.


*NOT a George Takei reference.
Posted by: Chuck Martel


Yes.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 23, 2024 10:45 AM (jHelr)

282 I bet the turkeys hated that.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at December 23, 2024 10:45 AM (Zxn0O)

283 You think so?
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at December 23, 2024 10:44 AM (fs1hN)
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Technically, yes. Very easy.

Politically? Not so much. See a mirror for one of the reasons.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 10:45 AM (HnUIn)

284 Trump should announce that we're looking at opening the alternate Pacific-Atlantic route considered that was through Nicaragua.

That'll really stir the pot.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 23, 2024 10:45 AM (PixdE)

285 279 Greenland seems an odd thing to make so much noise about, I wonder what Trump is playing at in this.
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Casinos?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 23, 2024 10:46 AM (fs1hN)

286 Doesn't the T-Bone include a filet mignon and a NY Strip ? The meat near the bone, oh my*.


*NOT a George Takei reference.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 23, 2024 10:41 AM


Yes. And the porterhouse is just a T-bone from the end with a larger piece of tenderloin.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 23, 2024 10:46 AM (+QlJh)

287 There are no penguins in Greenland. Just putting that out there.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes


So no penguin pie?

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 23, 2024 10:46 AM (jHelr)

288 Greenland seems an odd thing to make so much noise about, I wonder what Trump is playing at in this.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 23, 2024 10:44 AM (wyMQY)
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Ports.
Military staging.
Penal colony.
Natural resources.
Just making noise to keep insane leftists hysterical.

Lots of possibilities!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 10:47 AM (HnUIn)

289 Does Greenland have minerals? what is there anyway, besides lots of ice?

Posted by: IC - Cope Harder, Liberals at December 23, 2024 10:47 AM (EmT/E)

290
AI - The typical color of Union soldier hats during the American Civil War was black:
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The AI is wrong. The eastern armies work kepis and later "bummer" caps with basically a visor on a blue wool sack.

Western troops preferred slouch hats, with wide brims for shade. You can see this in some photos but a lot of artist sketches. The Army of the Potomac had strict dress regulations because it was based around Washington.

Elsewhere, more relaxed standards applied. Movies give the impression of greater uniformity because it costs less to buy a bunch of identical suits then have people customize them. Again, sketches and post-war paintings give good information.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 23, 2024 10:47 AM (ZOv7s)

291 A festively decorated Festivus Pole for you. https://tinyurl.com/5akcpfw3

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at December 23, 2024 10:48 AM (Zxn0O)

292 We're having beef tenderloin, but I'd rather have fried turkey for Christmas dinner.
Posted by: redridinghood


We are doing ham. Would love to do a tenderloin.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 23, 2024 10:48 AM (jHelr)

293 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

Like I said above, I am completely open to the idea that Islam began life as a Christian heresy. Perhaps Mohammed was the one who started that heresy, and began conquests in its name, but when his followers decided that they were not, in fact, Christian, but were still proud of the conquests that began under him, they started changing the historical record to conceal that fact? That's the scenario I consider most likely. Thus the absence of contemporary references to Mohammed.

Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 10:48 AM (v6JzV)

294 And you have to ask yourself: why the secrecy?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd


Because Islam isn't the name of the religion. It's the name of the demon. The demon that possessed a man and convinced the man that together they were equal to God. They would be a God to many people. The man embraced this idea and the demon. This man is never named. He is only called by the name of the demon, Islam. He chose a surrogate named Muhammad and dictated the "tenets of Islam". Muhammad wasn't a great conqueror or prophet. He was a puppet.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at December 23, 2024 10:48 AM (4XwPj)

295 I like prime rib because it often has the most fat.

But I've given up on ordering other steaks out because the places around me put the gross liquid smoke stuff on the steaks which tastes like motor oil. A least all the major chains do. And just where I am. The same restaurant in other cities don't do this. I hate it and can't figure out why they're doing it.

So I make my own steaks on cast iron. But I'll order a prime rib when their available.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 23, 2024 10:48 AM (Y6IkP)

296 Isn't a porterhouse a big, fat T-Bone?

I love them all, and currently I'm eyeballing a couple of ribeyes for today.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 23, 2024 10:49 AM (/MR36)

297 Greenland seems an odd thing to make so much noise about, I wonder what Trump is playing at in this.
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I think it's a lark.

Like, "I'll buy that [thing you don't need] for [fire sale price]."
IF they accept, you got a hell of a deal.
If they say no, who cares.

And, as I said, it's a bigger strategy of distraction and agitation to annoy and busy the left.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 23, 2024 10:49 AM (PixdE)

298 London broil is pretty awesome.

Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 10:49 AM (v6JzV)

299 Does Greenland have minerals? what is there anyway, besides lots of ice?
Posted by: IC - Cope Harder, Liberals at December 23, 2024 10:47 AM


Dunno. A nice view of Iceland?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 23, 2024 10:49 AM (+QlJh)

300 There are no penguins in Greenland. Just putting that out there.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at December 23, 2024 10:44 AM


Yet.

Like rust, we never sleep.

Posted by: Big Penguin at December 23, 2024 10:49 AM (a3Q+t)

301 But I've given up on ordering other steaks out because the places around me put the gross liquid smoke stuff on the steaks which tastes like motor oil. A least all the major chains do. And just where I am. The same restaurant in other cities don't do this. I hate it and can't figure out why they're doing it.

So I make my own steaks on cast iron. But I'll order a prime rib when their available.
Posted by: banana Dream


I was given a great compliment. My father-in-law has said more than once, that my tenderloin is better than Texas Roadhouse or Salt Grass Steak House.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 23, 2024 10:50 AM (jHelr)

302 Wow; that was both egregiously wrong and anti semetic.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

The Muzzies retroactively Islamicize everyone and everything. It truly is a BS "religion."
Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 10:07 AM (v6JzV)

What do you expect for a guy who reneg'd on a deals, was a backstabber, into chemical rec, and 'had short-eyes', and had 'visions' which his followers professed to hatred.
All the others have some form of love and compassion in their teachings.

Even L. Ron had a purpose to create one on a C-note bet...

Posted by: Pinochet Flight Attendant at December 23, 2024 10:50 AM (zL/eJ)

303 274 So, what would've been the Arabs' motivation for inventing the founder of their "religion?"

Islam started as a Christian heresy, of which there were many in Syria (kind of a hotbed for that kind of thing). Add in the usual hatred of taxes, and you get a rebellion that forces the Empire to pull back at a time when it is in a death struggle with Persia."

Yes - much in common with Arianism and Nestorism and a bunch of other offshoots popular in the region in the day. The death struggle with Persia, which you reference, also caused Imperial taxes to soar, and since the Orthodox Church was completely incorporated with Imperial government, a revolt against one was automatically a revolt aainst the other.

Why would the new Arab dynasty, rising in the 8th century, embrace a Holy Man narrative? Because saying that your rule from the beginning was Ordained from on high is far more powerful than saying you just happened to end up on top of a grab bag of revolutionary camel jockeys. Especially when you can label anyone who doesn't buy into your story as a Heretic.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 23, 2024 10:51 AM (wyMQY)

304 There are no penguins in Greenland. Just putting that out there.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at December 23, 2024 10:44 AM

Yet.

Like rust, we never sleep.
Posted by: Big Penguin

The original "penguins" were the great auks, which were in Greenland. Until those upstart "penguins" from down south had them taken out.

Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 10:51 AM (v6JzV)

305 So, what would've been the Arabs' motivation for inventing the founder of their "religion?"


Kill your enemy. God commands it.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 23, 2024 10:52 AM (jHelr)

306 A big point in islam being a Christian heresy is the way they discuss Jesus.

of all the stupid shit that makes no sense in that "religion" that tops them all.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 23, 2024 10:52 AM (PixdE)

307 >>Does Greenland have minerals? what is there anyway, besides lots of ice?


Pretty sure it has rare earth minerals that Bezos and two other tech titans contracted to be mined right after Trump was pitching we but Greenland the first time around.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at December 23, 2024 10:53 AM (u1uWe)

308 That's the scenario I consider most likely. Thus the absence of contemporary references to Mohammed.
Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 10:48 AM (v6JzV)
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it's not a total fabrication - the Dome of the Rock exists. But it is not Muslim and predates the rise of Islam. The octagonal shape was common for Christian churches.

What likely happened is heretical warlords rose up and wrecked the weakened Persian Empire and hammered the Byzantines. A power struggle ensued, and the victor had his claim formalized as a divine successor to a religious leader. Islam was systemized, variant texts destroyed, and divine sanction retroactively granted in a manner similar to the Roman deification of emperors who were discovered to have divine ancestors.

By the way, this happened in Europe, with lots of royal houses claiming descent from various mythical figures.

The salient feature is the complete destruction of Mecca in order to make archeological verification possible.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 23, 2024 10:53 AM (ZOv7s)

309 of all the stupid shit that makes no sense in that "religion" that tops them all.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 23, 2024 10:52 AM (PixdE)

...and Moses was 12' tall...

Posted by: BignJames at December 23, 2024 10:54 AM (Yj6Os)

310 Greenland needs women!

Posted by: The Regime at December 23, 2024 10:54 AM (a3Q+t)

311 Also thanks to Trump and his Greenland shit stirring, I learned that Greenland has a prime minister..who knew..and apparently they are in a long struggle for freedom...even more surprising...

Posted by: IC - Cope Harder, Liberals at December 23, 2024 10:54 AM (EmT/E)

312 Greenland needs women!

Posted by: The Regime at December 23, 2024 10:54 AM (a3Q+t)

and climate change.

Posted by: BignJames at December 23, 2024 10:55 AM (Yj6Os)

313 >>Technically, yes. Very easy.

>>Politically? Not so much. See a mirror for one of the reasons.

Pretty much the entire problem with every issue.

Technical solutions are easy. People aren't.

If we could just get rid of Mike Johnson the next person installed as Speaker will get every Republican in the House to vote exactly as we want.

Sure.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 23, 2024 10:55 AM (LkLld)

314 Greenlandic, an Eskimo language, is supposedly one of the most difficult languages on earth for outsiders to learn.

Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 10:56 AM (v6JzV)

315 I never heard the term "stray voltage" in politics until Barky Oblabo.

Trump has mastered that shit.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at December 23, 2024 10:56 AM (4XwPj)

316 @310 Iceland purportedly has an abundance of women, but Greenland lacks in nice things, so they won't emigrate.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at December 23, 2024 10:56 AM (Zxn0O)

317 9/2/2022:

The month of August saw a couple of interesting news items come to light with respect to Greenland. First, the world learned that Jeff Bezos, Michael Bloomberg and Bill Gates are betting that there are enough critical minerals to power hundreds of millions of electric vehicles below the surface of Greenland’s Disko Island and Nuussuaq Peninsula. This is part of a very rich, very powerful investor group in privately held mining company called KoBold Metals. In February the company raised US$192.5 million in a Series B funding round that also included Canada Pension Plan (CPP) Investment Board, Bond Capital, BHP Ventures, Standard Investments, Sam Altman’s Apollo Projects, Mitsubishi, and Sarah Kunst’s Cleo Capital. Some of this capital goes towards funding the company’s exploration of the joint venture 2,776 km² Disko-Nuussuaq Magmatic Massive Sulphide nickel-copper-platinum-cobalt project located on the southwest coast of Greenland with London listed Bluejay Mining PLC (AIM: JAY).

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at December 23, 2024 10:57 AM (u1uWe)

318 Also thanks to Trump and his Greenland shit stirring, I learned that Greenland has a prime minister..who knew..and apparently they are in a long struggle for freedom...even more surprising...
Posted by: IC - Cope Harder, Liberals

Yes. Greenland, like the Faeroe Islands, has a fair amount of autonomy under the Danish crown. It refused to join the EU, for example.

Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 10:57 AM (v6JzV)

319 Technical solutions are easy. People aren't.

If we could just get rid of Mike Johnson the next person installed as Speaker will get every Republican in the House to vote exactly as we want.

Sure.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 23, 2024 10:55 AM (LkLld)
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No he won't, of course.

But keep firing them until they figure it out. If it's a people problem, then keep changing the occupiers of positions of authority until it sinks in.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 10:57 AM (HnUIn)

320 Greenland needs women!

Posted by: The Regime


Greenland Girls Are Easy

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 23, 2024 10:57 AM (jHelr)

321 314 Greenlandic, an Eskimo language, is supposedly one of the most difficult languages on earth for outsiders to learn.
Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 10:56 AM (v6JzV)

Who wants to learn anything when you're sitting on an ice cube, except how to get out of there?

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 23, 2024 10:57 AM (wyMQY)

322 Who wants to learn anything when you're sitting on an ice cube, except how to get out of there?
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 23, 2024 10:57 AM (wyMQY)
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To keep penguins away, as well as various foreigners?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 10:58 AM (HnUIn)

323 What do you expect for a guy who reneg'd on a deals, was a backstabber, into chemical rec, and 'had short-eyes', and had 'visions' which his followers professed to hatred.
All the others have some form of love and compassion in their teachings.

Even L. Ron had a purpose to create one on a C-note bet...
Posted by: Pinochet Flight Attendant at December 23, 2024 10:50 AM (zL/eJ)
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The official portrayal of Mohammed is fascinating because he's all over the place. You'd think God's final prophet would be fautless in his personal behavior, maybe celibate.

Instead, his family life is a mess and it's almost as though the current rulers wanted divine sanction for their excesses, much in the way that the pagans could point to the gods indulging in incest, rape, treachery, etc.

"I'm only following the Prophet's example about banging little girls. That's not in there? Add it."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 23, 2024 10:58 AM (ZOv7s)

324 Greenland's monarch is Frederik X, who I can only assume is Malcolm's son.

Posted by: Wally at December 23, 2024 10:58 AM (B1iUz)

325 Ask me how many words they have for snow. . . go ahead!

Posted by: Smilla, who senses snow at December 23, 2024 10:59 AM (u1uWe)

326 Cameras did solve this crime quickly. If not for a camera in a subway car, the suspect would have most likely remained free.
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Yes, I'm sure, as she was dying, screaming in pain, and surrounded by the flames, her last thought was "at least there are plenty of cameras so my killer will be caught."

The people at DU never ever find the bottom of their evil indifference to real, actual individuals harmed by their preferred politics, do they?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 23, 2024 10:59 AM (PixdE)

327 But keep firing them until they figure it out. If it's a people problem, then keep changing the occupiers of positions of authority until it sinks in.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 10:57 AM (HnUIn)

The only House Member I've seen that appears to want it besides Johnson is Thomas Massie, and he seems to be another one that talks a big game but is short on results. Nobody else wants the job.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 23, 2024 10:59 AM (wyMQY)

328 Who wants to learn anything when you're sitting on an ice cube, except how to get out of there?
Posted by: Tom Servo

Actually, Greenland is on my bucket list. As is Alaska. Iceland used to be, too, until their policy of aborting Down's Syndrome babies took them off the list.

Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 10:59 AM (v6JzV)

329 >>No he won't, of course.

>>But keep firing them until they figure it out. If it's a people problem, then keep changing the occupiers of positions of authority until it sinks in.

They won't.

We aren't leftists. We argue here ever single day about big things and really stupid things and you think people we elect are any different?

Leftists are herd animals. They will repeat any shit they are told to repeat. That's what makes them leftists. That's what makes us not leftists.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 23, 2024 11:00 AM (LkLld)

330 So, what would've been the Arabs' motivation for inventing the founder of their "religion?" Somebody founded Islam, so why not just give credit to they guy who actually did, if it wasn't Mohammed?
Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 10:35 AM (v6JzV)
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Then Mohatmed would not be the true last prophet of Allah.

Fatwah issued.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 23, 2024 11:00 AM (GHvvy)

331 >>>>>Does Greenland have minerals? what is there anyway, besides lots of ice?

>Greenland needs fat, plump cocks to knock up there women. Let's stop pretending and get down to business.

The world is crying out, if you listen!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 23, 2024 11:00 AM (/MR36)

332 .
NOOD

Rant Time

NOOD!

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 23, 2024 11:00 AM (O7YUW)

333 They won't.

We aren't leftists. We argue here ever single day about big things and really stupid things and you think people we elect are any different?

Leftists are herd animals. They will repeat any shit they are told to repeat. That's what makes them leftists. That's what makes us not leftists.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 23, 2024 11:00 AM (LkLld)
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And therefore also without a party.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 23, 2024 11:00 AM (HnUIn)

334 Posted by: JackStraw at December 23, 2024 10:55 AM (LkLld)

The key to managing the monkey show is to diminish it's role in the circus. Shut down all non-essential government until those asshats produce a budget instead of CRs and make them exercise that process out in the open.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 23, 2024 11:00 AM (3Ope8)

335 >>And therefore also without a party.

Exactly.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 23, 2024 11:01 AM (LkLld)

336 Greenland could also build massive geothermal power plants to run AI and data storage.

Actual, 100% reliable "green" energy.

If they had a real man running the country ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 23, 2024 11:01 AM (PixdE)

337 The official portrayal of Mohammed is fascinating because he's all over the place. You'd think God's final prophet would be fautless in his personal behavior, maybe celibate.

Instead, his family life is a mess and it's almost as though the current rulers wanted divine sanction for their excesses, much in the way that the pagans could point to the gods indulging in incest, rape, treachery, etc.

"I'm only following the Prophet's example about banging little girls. That's not in there? Add it."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

Which adds to the argument that he was an actual person. It's kinda like the argument I've seen made for the historicity of King David: "He must have existed, because no people would invent a national hero who was that flawed."

Posted by: Bulg at December 23, 2024 11:01 AM (v6JzV)

338 Does Greenland have minerals? what is there anyway, besides lots of ice?

700,000 cubic miles of freshwater ice. The US uses 4 cubic miles of water per day. And it keeps snowing and raining.

I don't know, it's a bit of a stretch.

Posted by: t-bird at December 23, 2024 11:09 AM (/tXXR)

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