Democrat Strategist Ruy Texiera: The Public Gave the Democrats a Clear Message About Their Rejection of Identity Marxism, But the Democrats Don't Want to Listen

In the wake of the Democrats' drubbing at the hands of Donald Trump and the GOP, you'd assume the party would be all-in on a fundamental rethink, starting with some serious soul-searching on how the party came to be so out of sync with the majority of America on key cultural questions.
Questions like: Is America a "white supremacist" society? Is it racist to question levels of immigration? Are citing one's personal pronouns necessary? Is anyone who questions the differences between trans women from biological women a bigot who should be expunged from polite society? For each of these questions, the answer for the overwhelming majority of Americans is an obvious no. But in elite Democratic circles, it's a different story. For a party pondering its unpopularity, you might think that this gap would be a good place to start.
Well, if the six weeks since the election is anything to go by, you'd be wrong. Instead, much of the party is maneuvering to change as little as possible on the cultural front. Why? Because many of today's Democrats are culture denialists. That is, they do not consider cultural issues to be real issues. Instead, they see them as fictions, distractions, or expressions of bigotry that are to be opposed, not indulged.
Consider Greg Casar, the new chair of the powerful Congressional Progressive Caucus. In a recent interview with NBC News, Casar urged the Democrats to "re-emphasize core economic issues every time some of these cultural war issues are brought up." He said that "when we hear Republicans attacking queer Americans again, I think the progressive response needs to be that a trans person didn't deny your health insurance claim, a big corporation did--with Republican help." Casar said that "the Republican Party obsession" with culture war issues is "driven by Republicans' desire to distract voters and have them look away while Republicans pick their pocket."
Massachusetts Democratic representative Jim McGovern echoed Casar's thoughts recently with this rhetoric about Republicans: "They want to blame trans people? Guess what? Trans people aren't the ones raising people's grocery prices. Big corporations are." Republicans, he added, "want to blame immigrants. . . . Immigrants aren't the ones denying health insurance claims. . . . it's the billion-dollar insurance companies that do that."
Get it? These aren't real issues. They're just distractions ginned up by Republicans for nefarious political purposes. The logical conclusion of this argument is that Democrats don't need to actually change their position on any "culture war" issue. Instead, they just need to change the subject and talk about mustache-twirling corporate villains.
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Or perhaps the real problem, some Democrats argue, is that the party hasn't communicated its wonderful positions adeptly and thoroughly enough. With the right spin, maybe their positions on everything, from the economy to transgender issues and immigration would be popular. This seems to be the view of the two leading candidates for chair of the Democratic National Committee (DNC). Ken Martin, head of Minnesota's Democratic Party (technically its Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party), has a 10-point plan that calls for a "massive narrative and branding project." Ben Wikler, head of Wisconsin's Democratic Party, believes Democrats must "become the narrator" of their own brand.
This all seems reasonable enough but, cutting through the verbiage, nowhere do these candidates for the DNC chair concede the party's cultural vulnerabilities. When reading their pitches for the powerful post, it's as if those problems don't exist.
The outgoing DNC chair takes things even further. Since the election, Jaime Harrison has strenuously resisted the idea Democrats should abandon "identity politics," saying they represent how "people of color" see Democrats fighting for them.
Invoking his status as a black man, he remarked: "That is my identity. . . . it is not politics. It is my life. And the people that I need in the party, that I need to stand up for me, have to recognize that. You cannot run away from that." In other words, Democrats should double down on so-called culture war issues like race and gender that are so off-putting to voters. This is a strange recommendation since, as Democrats have become ever more associated with identity politics, they have been doing ever more poorly among non-white voters, especially non-white working-class voters. Their advantage among the latter group has declined by more than half since 2012.

I was wondering when the Democrats would change course, and I decided it probably wouldn't be for another 8 years.

It took the Democrats 12 years of losing the White House to finally pretend to moderate. Bill Clinton was their fig-leaf of "moderation."

But it took three crushing losses in a row to even get there.

The Democrat Cult will keep doubling down until they lose twice more.

They're in such a (Satanic) religious fervor now, and they are so ruthless in attacking and shaming and cancelling any heretics who question current cult doctrine, that they might not ever be able to moderate. The entire party might just have to collapse and be replaced by an emergent alternate-liberal party.

Ed Morrissey writes that Democrat strategist James Carville, campaign director for the "moderate" Bill Clinton, is making a similar argument.

The Daily Caller:

"Anybody that questions the absolute, unquestionable benefits of transition surgery is going to be called this equivalent of being against civil rights or being against women having the right to vote ... somebody can fact-check me, it's banned in Nordic countries," Carville said. "I think the liberal Labor government of Britain just passed legislation on that question." ...
"But you can't -- if you say the border, we should have had something different -- well, that makes you a racist. If you say that we should proceed with caution on this transition surgery ... then you're slammed. And the tyranny of the left is tyranny. And not only tyranny that it causes people grief, it loses us elections, people," Carville said. "And I got to tell you ... there are people that think this, and I'm increasingly agreeing with them."
"There are a substantial number of people in the Democratic Party -- almost exclusively coastal, almost exclusively white, almost exclusively higher-educated -- that would rather lose and feel superior about themselves than have to go through the trouble to do the stuff it takes necessary to win an election," he continued. "And as long as that philosophy is part of the Democratic coalition, it is going to continue to cause unbelievable damage to our electoral prospects. I cannot say it any simpler than that."

Morrissey comments:

This formulation is pure Carville. He structures this argument so that it's less concerned about the actual tyranny than it is about the elections. If tyranny won elections, you get the sense that Carville might gripe a bit, but he'd also appreciate it from an electoral-strategy point of view.
As it happens, though, tyranny turns out to be ... unpopular. In fact, that's it's defining characteristic. If these policies were popular, the Left wouldn't need to impose them with tyrannical methods, after all. Carville seems to miss that point in this rant, although to be fair, it's clipped from an obviously longer argument that Carville makes.

In fairness, you cannot tell these cultists that tyranny is bad, because they want the tyranny. This is what the revolution preaches: Tear down society until you can install yourself as dictators and impose your weird, sick vision of the anointed on the unwilling masses.

You can only make the argument that their tyranny will result in them giving the right the power to impose tyranny.

Morrissey acknowledges this as well:

Tyranny is both the strategy and the end goal.

Remember, though, "reporters" can't report on Biden's obvious senility until one of his top-raking aides/coup-conspirators admits he's senile:

In Sept. 2022, Biden prompted more concerns when he wondered, "Where's Jackie?" even though she had died over a month ago.

The White House defended Biden as having her "top of mind" which is why he asked the question. pic.twitter.com/BWMLSwaCht
— Charlie Spiering (@charliespiering) December 20, 2024

Weird how they could all admit he was senile when Democrat megadonors began emailing them during the Trump debate, or when Friend of Obama George Clooney said it was okay to admit it.

But before they secured permission from Reid Hoffman and other Democrat billionaires and celebrities? Nope, can't report on it, you need official confirmation from a Democrat official.

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1 You know what we need? We need AceTV. I would have it on 24/7.

Posted by: Peaches at December 20, 2024 05:21 PM (14URa)

2 So do we have any info on the German car murderer yet?

My money is still on a radical Amish sect.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 20, 2024 05:21 PM (W5ArC)

3 Chuy >> Ruy

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at December 20, 2024 05:22 PM (8XYYe)

4 My fear is that the democrats are actually going to stop and listen to these people.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 20, 2024 05:22 PM (Rcnd3)

5 Been near top on too many of things today.
Should get a life.

Posted by: From about That Time at December 20, 2024 05:22 PM (4780s)

6 Ace, it’s not true that the Dumocraps haven’t changed strategies in the wake of their ass-fucking. They have. They now want border security to keep put all these filthy Trump voters.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 20, 2024 05:23 PM (vs8ws)

7 Rod, right on.

Posted by: From about That Time at December 20, 2024 05:24 PM (4780s)

8 Carville: "There are a substantial number of people in the Democratic Party -- almost exclusively coastal, almost exclusively white, almost exclusively higher-educated -- that would rather lose and feel superior about themselves than have to go through the trouble to do the stuff it takes necessary to win an election," he continued."

Change Democrat Party to GOP, and he has a good nail on the GOPe RINOs.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at December 20, 2024 05:24 PM (bufu1)

9 I keep seeing them advocating running Commie Lay again, or (heaven help us) O'CrazyHo-TittyCaca.

Me, I approve both of those messages.

Could you imagine the jumped-up bar hostess trying to debate Vance?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 20, 2024 05:24 PM (W5ArC)

10 I just want it to get dark so I can put my jammies on and watch tv.

Posted by: Peaches at December 20, 2024 05:24 PM (14URa)

11 "Tyranny is both the strategy and the end goal."

Nah - triviality is the goal. They just want to be free to spend your money on whatever and have you not bitch so much about it.

They are narcissistic spoiled rich brats more than anything. They want daddy's credit card and car keys and throw a fit when they don't get it. They have no ulterior motives, no plan, no really good ideas. They just want to do whatever they want when they want.

Posted by: El Mariachi at December 20, 2024 05:26 PM (nLFEI)

12 Why? Because many of today's Democrats are culture denialists. That is, they do not consider cultural issues to be real issues.

They consider cultural issues to be religious issues.

Denying that men can get pregnant is heresy, for example.

You don't compromise with heretics - you kill them.

Also, all their cultural positions are "non-political" - for example, Pride Flags are non-political, and therefore can't be questioned.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 20, 2024 05:26 PM (uxCna)

13 It's not they don't want to listen, it's they won't give up.

Posted by: Skip at December 20, 2024 05:26 PM (fwDg9)

14 Identity politics is not about maximizing votes or advancing politically popular positions. It’s about graft and paying off Democrap donors and constituents.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 20, 2024 05:27 PM (vs8ws)

15 I think we vastly overestimate these people, just as they vastly overestimate themselves.

Posted by: El Mariachi at December 20, 2024 05:27 PM (nLFEI)

16 20 years of Democrats Propaganda Ministry has taken the public down the Marxists road

Posted by: Skip at December 20, 2024 05:27 PM (fwDg9)

17 Trumps secret and why they hate him so much - he can spot a phony a mile off. He knows these people are 90% full of shit. They don't care what you do, as long as you do what they say.

Posted by: El Mariachi at December 20, 2024 05:28 PM (nLFEI)

18 Don't worry, the Grand Old Pussies will do their best to put the Democrat-Communists back in power.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at December 20, 2024 05:28 PM (qUkBO)

19 Imagine what idiots a material % of Americans are when one of the two major parties can barf up the kind of idiocy cited here (inflation, you see, is KORPORATIONZ!!!!!!!!!!!!! raising prices!!!! nothing more).

I think I saw a clip of the cretinous Jeffries explaining the CR follies as caused by "billionaires!" not getting enough $ from the process.

Why not double down when your voters are THIS stupid and misinformed? Besides, I didn't notice a Reaganesque electoral map this round. Given the state of the country, the unbelievable weakness and ineptness of the Dem candidates, and the unique one-time appeal of a very unusual GOP candidate, that it was razor-thin indicates Dems have good reason to believe they can survive or prosper on pure delusion and bigotry.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 20, 2024 05:28 PM (1m82a)

20 Driver of the car that drove through Christmas market in Germany is reportedly a doctor originally from Saudi Arabia.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 20, 2024 05:29 PM (fs1hN)

21 Having someone see right through your bullshit is painful to these people. Having someone laugh in their face is even worse.

Posted by: El Mariachi at December 20, 2024 05:29 PM (nLFEI)

22 "Could you imagine the jumped-up bar hostess trying to debate Vance?"

Well, the vapid affirmative action empty shell Harris won her debate with Trump, so.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 20, 2024 05:30 PM (1m82a)

23 It's not they don't want to listen, it's they ~~won't give up~~ just don't care.
Posted by: Skip at December 20, 2024 05:26 PM (fwDg9)

FIFY

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 20, 2024 05:31 PM (VNX3d)

24 They don't see what they do as stealing - it is getting what they deserve, for their amazing talents, gifts, sacrifices, etc.

Where do you think a 40% pay raise comes from?

Posted by: El Mariachi at December 20, 2024 05:31 PM (nLFEI)

25 Ugh, I forgot that "top of mind" quote that was everywhere for a little while. It still grates me terribly.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 20, 2024 05:31 PM (Odg76)

26 The Dems obese, disabled, black muslim bisexual bestial necrophiliac candidate in 2028 will set everything straight....

So to speak...

Posted by: Stateless at December 20, 2024 05:31 PM (jvJvP)

27 Driver of the car that drove through Christmas market in Germany is reportedly a doctor originally from Saudi Arabia.

Just imagine how many infidels he killed in the hospital earlier.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 20, 2024 05:32 PM (uxCna)

28 Ace posting his ass off today.

Tenacious little Ewok.

Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2024 05:33 PM (j6KoD)

29 The entire party might just have to collapse and be replaced by an emergent alternate-liberal party.”

This is exactly what I have been writing must happen - the current has placed for too many radicals in positions of power, and they’re driving any remaining rational people out. It’s far easier to junk that structure and start fresh than it is to reform it. Although the new party will almost certainly find a way to hang onto the Democrat name for branding reasons.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 20, 2024 05:34 PM (zQ3t+)

30 >>Driver of the car that drove through Christmas market in Germany is reportedly a doctor originally from Saudi Arabia.

Islam is not compatible with Society.

Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2024 05:34 PM (j6KoD)

31 There's a lot wrong with the media.

It's continued existence is one.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 20, 2024 05:35 PM (Q4IgG)

32 >>Just imagine how many infidels he killed in the hospital earlier.

So.

You have a hand for Wiping and a hand for Eating...

which one do you use for Surgeries?

Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2024 05:36 PM (j6KoD)

33 In my heyday, we knew how to handle intransigents. We had them tortured, shot, and sent to the Russian Front!

Posted by: General Burkhalter at December 20, 2024 05:36 PM (G5+As)

34 Driver of the car that drove through Christmas market in Germany is reportedly a doctor originally from Saudi Arabia.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 20, 2024 05:29 PM (fs1hN)

What is Dr. Smelly Noasswash doing in Germany driving into a Christmas market? Aren't there Christmas markets in Saudi he can drive into?

Posted by: Deport, Expel and Ban Them at December 20, 2024 05:37 PM (R/m4+)

35 These demons are used to getting away with (up to and including) murder on unbelievable levels since the Obama years. They then got a taste of ultimate power during the lockdowns. They will not give either of those up, so stay frosty.

Posted by: Cray Cray at December 20, 2024 05:37 PM (7CGJt)

36 There's a whole lot of not listening going on, there.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 20, 2024 05:37 PM (63Dwl)

37 Joe Scarborough: "this is intellectually, cognitively, the Best Joe Biden ever!"

Mm'kay.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 20, 2024 05:38 PM (RIvkX)

38 I've said it before and I'll say it again: God favors us by giving us such foolish enemies.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 20, 2024 05:40 PM (WXNFJ)

39 Magdeburg "car" attack was the anniversary of a similar attack in Berlin in 2016.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 20, 2024 05:42 PM (hovnC)

40 Rejection of Identity Marxism, But the Democrats Don't Want to Listen … because they have a huge investment in Identity Marxism .. strictly a capitalist reason

Posted by: SMOD at December 20, 2024 05:42 PM (o0+oQ)

41
Those laser-brains at Pod Save America and The Bulwark have been going through paroxysms of self-analysis and trying to account for the loss, and it keeps coming down to us.

I don't know why some Dems are figuring it out (Ana Kasparian's another) and others aren't.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at December 20, 2024 05:42 PM (I87yH)

42 Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 2h
The press that didn’t tell us Biden’s Brain has been broken since his first day in office are waiting to tell us about Harris’s seemingly obvious drinking problem.

Nothing changes.

Same thing.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 20, 2024 05:43 PM (hovnC)

43 There will be a spate of terrorist attacks in the US in the next few years, mostly muslims who snuck in under (or were flown in by) Biden*, and it will be blamed on Trump and Kash Patel. "They made us do it," the corrupt FBI agents will say.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at December 20, 2024 05:43 PM (qUkBO)

44
But it was just a stutter.....

Posted by: Frank Barone at December 20, 2024 05:43 PM (+oR7L)

45 We need people on the right to point out how much the medical complex is making with the myth of "transitioning medically to support trans folks" whenever a commie shouts that big corporations are denying health claims. And our allies should point out that all this care comes out of the pot of premiums paid to the insurance companies so when they pay for some troubled teen to get a masectomy, castration, take hormones etc that insurance company has less money available to pay for your cancer treatment or whatever.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 20, 2024 05:43 PM (UKUm3)

46 Carville is interesting. He seems to see politics and elections like most people see a football game or baseball game. He watches the game, makes note of the mistakes, and advises the team on what not to do next time. And he isn't stupid. He has a sharp eye for the electorate. And he can spot stupid from a distance.

It's unfortunate that he plays for the demoncrats. He would be a hoot as a non partisan analyst just verbally kicking the shit out of whichever team does something really stupid.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at December 20, 2024 05:43 PM (4XwPj)

47
12 years before they moderated with Clinton? Clinton would have lost a two-way race in 1992.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 20, 2024 05:43 PM (dxSpM)

48 Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 2h
The press that didn’t tell us Biden’s Brain has been broken since his first day in office are waiting to tell us about Harris’s seemingly obvious drinking problem.

Nothing changes.

Same thing.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 20, 2024 05:43 PM (hovnC)

Which office?

President?
Vice President?
Senate?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 20, 2024 05:44 PM (VNX3d)

49 It took the Democrats 12 years of losing the White House to finally pretend to moderate. Bill Clinton was their fig-leaf of "moderation."

But it took three crushing losses in a row to even get there.
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That was the genius of James Carville. Love him or hate him, he knew what he was doing. Carville would poll a state during the campaign to find out the most lucrative issue to exploit, and then he'd send in Clinton to hark on that issue. It's why Clinton had the reputation for "putting his finger in the air to check the winds" before making any statements.

As a result, Clinton ended up cleaning up Welfare to some extent, and had a much better record on immigration than he gets credit for.

Remember Hillarycare? Probably not. Carville made every effort to sabotage that effort behind the scenes.

Posted by: Orson at December 20, 2024 05:44 PM (dIske)

50 I am done with work, and all of next week off.

*pours tumbler of bourbon*

Prost!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I'll hang up and listen... at December 20, 2024 05:44 PM (Ad8y9)

51 > Joe Scarborough: "this is intellectually, cognitively, the Best Joe Biden ever!"
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You bent over backwards to kiss Trump's ring so you wouldn't get canned and have to shell out millions.

Stephanopoulos has some tips, asshole.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 20, 2024 05:45 PM (Q4IgG)

52 Can we shove it up their ass and break it off yet?

Posted by: Beverly at December 20, 2024 05:45 PM (Epeb0)

53
Remember Hillarycare? Probably not. Carville made every effort to sabotage that effort behind the scenes.
Posted by: Orson

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Really? Lord, how many people are on her Hate List?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at December 20, 2024 05:46 PM (I87yH)

54 I'm not senile, I'm... what'd you say?

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 20, 2024 05:46 PM (Drm1A)

55 Can we shove it up their ass and break it off yet?
Posted by: Beverly at December 20, 2024 05:45 PM (Epeb0)

Malformed pine trees?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 20, 2024 05:46 PM (VNX3d)

56
And he isn't stupid.

________

Just unpricipled.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 20, 2024 05:47 PM (dxSpM)

57
Driver of the car that drove through Christmas market in Germany is reportedly a doctor originally from Saudi Arabia.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 20, 2024 05:29 PM (fs1hN)

First, ~~do no harm~~ murder the infidels.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 20, 2024 05:47 PM (iJfKG)

58 "But before they secured permission from Reid Hoffman and other Democrat billionaires and celebrities? Nope, can't report on it, you need official confirmation from a Democrat official."

Same is true of other core false doctrines ... The Vax, Global Warming, Men can have babies, Diversity is our Strength ... but most of those "Great Lies" (can't come up with the word, am thinking "sabolith" but that is wrong) ... most of those Core Myths are still alive and well ... being used to crush/replace traditional Western dogma (via the Fake News Machine that gave us Obama the LightBringer).

Posted by: illiniwek at December 20, 2024 05:48 PM (Cus5s)

59 I like my assholes easy to identify. They can stay in that fuckhead party and I hope they keep doubling down on their insane bullshit. We don't need another liberal party, we already have the R's n D's that are liberal. Hopefully the next four years we can get them the fuck out of the R party.

Liberalism has always been Marxist/socialists, it always ends up in the same place and that's right where they are now.

Posted by: JROD at December 20, 2024 05:48 PM (IlL6s)

60 The Democrat Party and the media are firmly aligned with the deep state. They move in unison.

When they appear to be doing something batshit crazy like mutilating kids and calling the gender affirming care they are doing the bidding of their partners in the permanent government.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 20, 2024 05:48 PM (LkLld)

61 >>>Nah - triviality is the goal. They just want to be free to spend your money on whatever and have you not bitch so much about it.

No, they want you to DIE. Where have you been?

Posted by: Max Power at December 20, 2024 05:49 PM (q177U)

62 "Driver of the car that drove through Christmas market in Germany is reportedly a doctor originally from Saudi Arabia."

in Germany legally since 2006, I read

Posted by: illiniwek at December 20, 2024 05:49 PM (Cus5s)

63 First, ~~do no harm~~ murder the infidels.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 20, 2024 05:47 PM (iJfKG)
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The Mohammedan Oath

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 20, 2024 05:49 PM (BpYfr)

64 Arsen Ostrovsky 🎗️
Very sad. Israeli flag taken down at the Embassy in Dublin. Hopefully it can go up once again, when Ireland has a government that is not so viscerally hostile towards Israel and antisemitic.

4:49 AM · Dec 19, 2024

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 20, 2024 05:49 PM (RIvkX)

65 27 Driver of the car that drove through Christmas market in Germany is reportedly a doctor originally from Saudi Arabia.

Just imagine how many infidels he killed in the hospital earlier.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 20, 2024 05:32 PM (uxCna)
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He's a mental doctor - take it both ways.

Posted by: Ciampino - psychiatrist at December 20, 2024 05:49 PM (i0xsb)

66 (can't come up with the word, am thinking "sabolith" but that is wrong)
Posted by: illiniwek at December 20, 2024 05:48 PM (Cus5s)

Shibboleth?

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 20, 2024 05:50 PM (OX9vb)

67 They won't listen. Next comes ramped up violence killing and destruction. They have crossed the line of sanity just like leftist always do.

Posted by: Plainoldtoast at December 20, 2024 05:51 PM (RtC70)

68 Hillarycare same as ObamaCare only there was no gNewt...there was no whip DeLay (the hammer) to forge the House, only pussies.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 20, 2024 05:51 PM (Drm1A)

69 "Driver of the car that drove through Christmas market in Germany is reportedly a doctor originally from Saudi Arabia."

Let me guess, a urologist.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at December 20, 2024 05:51 PM (qUkBO)

70 "This formulation is pure Carville. He structures this argument so that it's less concerned about the actual tyranny than it is about the elections. If tyranny won elections, you get the sense that Carville might gripe a bit, but he'd also appreciate it from an electoral-strategy point of view."

Bingo. That's why I still despise Carville: it's all about getting and maintaining power. He puts me in mind of something H.L. Mencken once wrote about Harry Truman: "If there had been any formidable body of cannibals in the country he [Harry Truman] would have promised to provide them with free missionaries, fattened at the taxpayers’ expense.”

Posted by: Paco at December 20, 2024 05:52 PM (mADJX)

71 67 They won't listen. Next comes ramped up violence killing and destruction. They have crossed the line of sanity just like leftist always do.
Posted by: Plainoldtoast
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There's a remedy for that.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 20, 2024 05:52 PM (Drm1A)

72 It would be interesting to compare the patient outcomes for Muslim doctors compared to non-Muslims.

And by "interesting" I mean "the woketards would burn you at the stake for even suggesting such a study".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 20, 2024 05:54 PM (W5ArC)

73 Ireland can go F itself. England should quit pampering them an cut them loose.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 20, 2024 05:54 PM (Drm1A)

74 > There's a remedy for that.
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 20, 2024 05:52 PM (Drm1A)

The "hoof and mouth disease" remedy?

If there aren't any animals with hoof and mouth disease, then there won't be any.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 20, 2024 05:54 PM (W5ArC)

75 Or perhaps the real problem, some Democrats argue, is that the party hasn't communicated its wonderful positions adeptly and thoroughly enough.
_________________

Face it, Dems: the dogs don't like the dog food.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 20, 2024 05:55 PM (YqDXo)

76 Democrats are godless commie tyrant perverts.
They and their messed up ideals need to be called out and ridiculed.

Make people uncomfortable with associating with these scumbags and ideas.

Hope we are all strapped in, 31 days to go.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 20, 2024 05:55 PM (ufFY8)

77 Interesting Press Conference from Zelensky in Ukraine. When asked about evidence for the North Korean troops he said that they have Russian IDs and the Russians burn their faces off before the Ukraininans can take pictures.

Of course they don't have picutured of burned face troops either.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 20, 2024 05:55 PM (n7h9X)

78 I think Pete Rose should get into the Hall of Fame before he dies. Come on up here Pete!

Posted by: JOE BIDEN at December 20, 2024 05:56 PM (oOc/o)

79 If England offered Ireland to Russia, Putin wouldn't take it.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 20, 2024 05:56 PM (Drm1A)

80 Couldn’t you tell they were Korean by their small wieners?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 20, 2024 05:57 PM (ZKG7+)

81 Or perhaps the real problem, some Democrats argue, is that the party hasn't communicated its wonderful positions adeptly and thoroughly enough.
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Face it, Dems: the dogs don't like the dog food.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 20, 2024 05:55 PM (YqDXo)

https://youtu.be/XI4140D8gk0

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 20, 2024 05:57 PM (VNX3d)

82 One suggestion I've seen is that all commies be frogmarched to the nearest border and kicked across it, after being chipped so they can be put to hard labor if they're ever caught trying to sneak back in.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 20, 2024 05:57 PM (W5ArC)

83 Arsen Ostrovsky 🎗️
Very sad. Israeli flag taken down at the Embassy in Dublin. Hopefully it can go up once again, when Ireland has a government that is not so viscerally hostile towards Israel and antisemitic.
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Why is Ireland of all places hot about Israel? How many Jews can there possibly be in Ireland? A dozen, maybe?

Why don't they tee off on ... say ... Zoroastrians, or Scientologists?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 20, 2024 05:57 PM (YqDXo)

84 I saw Burned Face Troops open for the Vomit Pigs in a punk club in Austin back in '82.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 20, 2024 05:58 PM (W5ArC)

85 a doctor originally from Saudi Arabia."

Let me guess, a urologist.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at December 20, 2024 05:51 PM (qUkBO)

Veterinary doctor, specializing in sheep and camels.

Tangentially related: I think the collective noun for camels should be "a hump of camels", or "a joe of camels".

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 20, 2024 05:58 PM (ufFY8)

86 73 Ireland can go F itself. England should quit pampering them an cut them loose.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 20, 2024 05:54 PM (Drm1A)
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You are conflating Ireland (Eire), an independent country, with Northern Ireland, part of Great Britain. Eire is the one about the Israeli embassy closing.

Posted by: Ciampino - not so hard at December 20, 2024 05:58 PM (i0xsb)

87 The CR passed the House. At least 32 No votes from Republicans.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 20, 2024 05:58 PM (LkLld)

88 Shibboleth Shillelagh

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 20, 2024 05:58 PM (YfvWK)

89 Afternoon to evening, AoSHQers,

'Tis Freya's Day, the consummation devoutly to be wished! Especially if you have Monday and Tuesday off. My boss let us go at noon, and I had time to stop at teh grocery and do a little Xmas shopping, plus rinse off the car. It may touch freezing tonight, so no car washing tomorrow.

The Killer Kittenz From Outer Space, Stirling the big black and Dagny the little Siberian, have had dinner and are racing about, chasing each other.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 20, 2024 05:58 PM (omVj0)

90 ‘ But the Democrats Don't Want to Listen’

Good. I hope they double down until everyone else hates them as much as I do.

Then the mass arrests can kick off.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 20, 2024 05:58 PM (3wi/L)

91 Sir Topham Hatt > Top of Mind

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at December 20, 2024 05:58 PM (Vyll1)

92 Looks like Johnson cut a deal with Hakeem Jeffries to pass this - wonder how much he gave to him.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 20, 2024 05:58 PM (7MHHr)

93 Shibboleth?
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! "

YES, thx, not part of my normal vocabulary ...

Posted by: illiniwek at December 20, 2024 06:00 PM (Cus5s)

94 Veterinary doctor, specializing in sheep and camels.
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He's a matchmaker?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 20, 2024 06:00 PM (YqDXo)

95 65
He's a psychiatrist therefore mental.

Posted by: Ciampino - not so hard is it? at December 20, 2024 06:01 PM (i0xsb)

96 >>> Tangentially related: I think the collective noun for camels should be "a hump of camels", or "a joe of camels".
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 20, 2024 05:58 PM (ufFY8

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I never smoked. But I did win a drawing for a Joe Camel trash can from a gas station back in '92.

Posted by: Turn 2 at December 20, 2024 06:01 PM (i1Dh+)

97 Lulu Cheng Meservey @lulumeservey Dec 19
For awareness — note the language here. It’s a very intentional strategy

The goal is to weaken Trump and Elon by fomenting tensions between them

By jabbing Trump about not being the alpha, the idea is to provoke him to sideline Elon and to fray the relationship

Elon Musk @elonmusk 6h
That is exactly the goal.

The political & legacy media puppets all got their new instructions yesterday and are now parroting the same message to drive a wedge between @realDonaldTrump and me.

They will fail.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 20, 2024 06:01 PM (hovnC)

98 Looks like Johnson cut a deal with Hakeem Jeffries to pass this - wonder how much he gave to him.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 20, 2024 05:58 PM (7MHHr)
________________

Thirty pieces of silver is, I believe, the going rate.

I'm officially kicking off the "Oust Johnson" movement here and now.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 20, 2024 06:01 PM (YqDXo)

99 Contrast Carville with almost any consultant or entrenched Republican politician. Carville just cares about winning and delivering as a consultant. He has no opinion on anything outside of winning. He will support anything that delivers the win for the democrat party.

Paid Republicans and their consultants are very similar. They will say and do anything as long as it delivers a loss. Losing to the Democrats is the only thing that ever matters to entrenched R party mouth breathers.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 20, 2024 06:02 PM (Y6IkP)

100 Oh Brother, Biden was so obviously cognitively impaired during the 2020 election period that I told my spouse I doubted he would survive his term. I could not understand why anyone would vote for him as a vegetable.

TDS was so powerful. My a**hole neighbors insisted on Kamala signs this time around on their lawns. They aren't stupid, TDS is very powerful.

Posted by: actually inside the beltway at December 20, 2024 06:02 PM (xA5g+)

101 The Democrat house members are always good at voting in lockstep. No dissenters.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 20, 2024 06:02 PM (7MHHr)

102 ----
You are conflating Ireland (Eire), an independent country, with Northern Ireland, part of Great Britain. Eire is the one about the Israeli embassy closing.
Posted by: Ciampino -
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Never heard of such a thing but I'm OK with it.
Cut Eire loose, let them hang themselves.

Only thing is, it's within England's territorial waters and lo to the outsider.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 20, 2024 06:02 PM (Drm1A)

103 I wonder if other languages have all these different words for groups of animals or if it’s just a quirk of English.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 20, 2024 06:03 PM (ZKG7+)

104 There are 2,700 joos in Ireland
Several reasons:
Historical connection to terrorism
Conflation of British oppression
Contemporary woke Marxism
Ancient Catholic antisemitism

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 20, 2024 06:03 PM (RIvkX)

105 It's Deep State special there - despite their being plenty of ethnic Irish being leftist, new world order idiots they have imported all sorts of Indian and other crazy immigrant peeps to be in their government. When the riots were on for housing illegals there I was struck by the uniformity of non irish names wanting to crack down.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 20, 2024 06:04 PM (n7h9X)

106 Breaking: No govt shutdown. Everyone ok on a bill to pass...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 20, 2024 06:04 PM (exHjb)

107 Breaking: No govt shutdown. Everyone ok on a bill to pass...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 20, 2024 06:04 PM (exHjb)

Shoot. Congressional Republicans didn't give me the Christmas present I wanted.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 20, 2024 06:06 PM (VNX3d)

108 Islam is not compatible with Society.
Posted by: garrett

Some of us knew this back in the '70s.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 20, 2024 06:06 PM (WXNFJ)

109 The CR passed the House. At least 32 No votes from Republicans.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 20, 2024 05:58 PM (LkLld)

Big one or small one?

Posted by: Oldcat at December 20, 2024 06:06 PM (n7h9X)

110 Great the govt wont shutdown over the holidays when they all shutdown and go on vacation because they get 90 days a year.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 20, 2024 06:07 PM (ZKG7+)

111 Chad Pergram @ChadPergram 2h
McConnell: I don't care to count how many times I've reminded our colleagues and our House counterparts how horrible it is to shut the government down. And how foolish it is to bet your own side won't take the blame for it. Recent history doesn't leave a whole lot of room for interpretation on that one. When you try to use normal government function as a bargaining chip, you pay a political price

https://tinyurl.com/kwu3rwt2

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 20, 2024 06:08 PM (hovnC)

112 Several reasons:
Historical connection to terrorism
Conflation of British oppression
Contemporary woke Marxism
Ancient Catholic antisemitism
Posted by: San Franpsycho

If only Manischevitz made whiskey...

Posted by: Miklos would try that at December 20, 2024 06:08 PM (xesY+)

113 I noticed a distinct lack of self-reflection among the libs in my life after the election loss.

Then I pointed it out. I still have not noticed much, but I have noticed a lot of blame, deflection, and misdirection.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 20, 2024 06:08 PM (RIvkX)

114 The dogs won't eat the canned dog food!

Posted by: Just the Punchline at December 20, 2024 06:08 PM (Aqu9a)

115 I keep seeing them advocating running Commie Lay again, or (heaven help us) O'CrazyHo-TittyCaca.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgi

I don't think they will. This is just throat-clearing to goose donors to start building up a new challenger. "Hey, if you guys don't get off your asses, this will happen."

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 20, 2024 06:08 PM (IG4Id)

116 "Breaking: No govt shutdown. Everyone ok on a bill to pass..."

what deal did "we" get?

Posted by: illiniwek at December 20, 2024 06:08 PM (Cus5s)

117 McConnell: I don't care to count how many times I've reminded our colleagues and our House counterparts how horrible it is to shut the government down. And how foolish it is to bet your own side won't take the blame for it. Recent history doesn't leave a whole lot of room for interpretation on that one. When you try to use normal government function as a bargaining chip, you pay a political price

https://tinyurl.com/kwu3rwt2
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 20, 2024 06:08 PM (hovnC)

You mean like not recessing for recess appointments you fraud?

Posted by: Oldcat at December 20, 2024 06:09 PM (n7h9X)

118 Shoot. Congressional Republicans didn't give me the Christmas present I wanted.
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Maybe there's a pony underneath the mountain of horseshit. Let's keep digging!

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 20, 2024 06:09 PM (hovnC)

119 The Democrat house members are always good at voting in lockstep. No dissenters.
Posted by: Tom Servo

Why it's almost as if it is a cult.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 20, 2024 06:10 PM (WXNFJ)

120 I would be surprised if the government employees would love a shutdown, no work and back pay when the budget gets done.

Posted by: Skip at December 20, 2024 06:10 PM (fwDg9)

121 They aren't stupid, TDS is very powerful.

Posted by: actually inside the beltway at December 20, 2024 06:02 PM (xA5g+)

I saw more cocksucker signs than pedo dementia patient signs. But 20 M fewer ballots?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 20, 2024 06:10 PM (i24o9)

122 If only Manischevitz made whiskey...
Posted by: Miklos would try that at December 20, 2024 06:08 PM (xesY+)
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It would taste something like a cross between Jagermeister and Southern Comfort.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 20, 2024 06:11 PM (RIvkX)

123 I keep seeing them advocating running Commie Lay again, or (heaven help us) O'CrazyHo-TittyCaca.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgi

I don't think they will. This is just throat-clearing to goose donors to start building up a new challenger. "Hey, if you guys don't get off your asses, this will happen."
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 20, 2024 06:08 PM (IG4Id)

They may want to do that, but of course a lot of them were planning to get an open convention and that failed. It might just be that if they don't crush their zealots and purge them, everyone will be too cowardly to try.

It happenend in 1992 when nobody wanted to Oppose Bush I but Clinton and Gary Hart.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 20, 2024 06:11 PM (n7h9X)

124 By Grabthar's Hammer, I need a pounding.

Posted by: Paul P. at December 20, 2024 06:12 PM (a3Q+t)

125 Breaking: No govt shutdown. Everyone ok on a bill to pass...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 20, 2024 06:04 PM (exHjb)

BOHICA

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 20, 2024 06:12 PM (Aqu9a)

126 Quite possibly, a blue-haired tranny did deny your health insurance claim, because DEI provisions required the insurance company to hire that freak.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2024 06:13 PM (8zz6B)

127 "how foolish it is to bet your own side won't take the blame for it."

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Who cares. Does he think voters actually remember this a year or two down the road and what difference does it make? No one says, "I'm not voting R because they caused a Gov shutdown."

Posted by: Ciampino - not so hard is it? at December 20, 2024 06:13 PM (i0xsb)

128 By Grabthar's Hammer, I need a pounding.
Posted by: Paul P. at December 20, 2024 06:12 PM (a3Q+t)

I LOL'd.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 20, 2024 06:14 PM (Aqu9a)

129 If you want to see how a political party dies, look to Trudeau’s Liberal Party in Canada. This party has been “the Government Party” for over 100 years, and has governed Canada for most of that time. Now, thanks to Trudeau’s misrule, the party’s poll numbers have dropped to extinction levels. A good example was a by-election in BC a few days ago; in a seat that the Liberals had easily held for a long
time. This time the results were Conservative Party, 66%; Liberals, 16%. That’s a good guess as to how the next national election will go as well.

The Liberal Party of Canada dies with Trudeau’s career. It won’t be back.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 20, 2024 06:14 PM (7MHHr)

130 Some of us knew this back in the '70s.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 20, 2024 06:06 PM (WXNFJ)

The 870s?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 20, 2024 06:14 PM (ufFY8)

131 If only Manischevitz made whiskey...
Posted by: Miklos would try that at December 20, 2024 06:08 PM (xesY+)
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It would taste something like a cross between Jagermeister and Southern Comfort.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 20, 2024 06:11 PM (RIvkX)

I just threw up in my mouth a little.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 20, 2024 06:15 PM (Aqu9a)

132 The defining characteristic of leftism, besides talking like a fag and their shit being retarded, is lathe lack of self reflection and analytical thinking.

So, I would hold my breath waiting for them to figure out why they lost. Reality is the last thing they will consider.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 20, 2024 06:15 PM (ZKG7+)

133 So are we getting fucked again?

Posted by: That Chicken at December 20, 2024 06:15 PM (WNVpZ)

134 Biden was clearly daft in the 2020 election.
Now he is getting the physical imparements that goes with his age.

Maybe a stroke might mess his mind and body, but I think his brain was fried four years ago, loosing ability to just makes it more obvious.
Very old men can have difficulty walking.... taking a while to shuffle up to the mic, or keeping the pace is one thing, shuffling off aimlessly is another, especially when you should just be stnding there.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 20, 2024 06:15 PM (/lPRQ)

135 Ace -
It took the Democrats 12 years of losing the White House to finally pretend to moderate. Bill Clinton was their fig-leaf of "moderation."

But it took three crushing losses in a row to even get there.
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And when he got in, he and Hillary went hard left and generated a massive loss in the House in 1994 and a GOP Majority.

Bill Clinton, NOT the DNC tacked rightward hard for the last term and a half to avoid losing in 96 and impeachment after that. Probably no GOP winner in 96 would have governed as right as Clinton did.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 20, 2024 06:16 PM (n7h9X)

136 So are we getting fucked again?
Posted by: That Chicken at December 20, 2024 06:15 PM (WNVpZ)

It Is Assured

Posted by: Magic 8-Ball at December 20, 2024 06:16 PM (Aqu9a)

137 So are we getting fucked again?
Posted by: That Chicken at December 20, 2024 06:15 PM (WNVpZ)

Better you than me.

Posted by: The Toaster at December 20, 2024 06:16 PM (ufFY8)

138 BOHICA
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 20, 2024 06:12 PM

Something the two of us can be bipartisan on!

Posted by: George T. and Lindsay G. at December 20, 2024 06:17 PM (a3Q+t)

139 House passed a spending bill.

Now the Senate, and then next year will be glorious! says The Speaker.

Posted by: L - cellphone at December 20, 2024 06:18 PM (NFX2v)

140 So are we getting fucked again?
Posted by: That Chicken at December 20, 2024 06:15 PM

Don't leave us out in the cold.

Posted by: The Monkey and The Football at December 20, 2024 06:18 PM (a3Q+t)

141 I thought the Bald Eagle already was designated our National Bird?

https://tinyurl.com/4j5fp2c7

Posted by: Ciampino - not so hard is it? at December 20, 2024 06:18 PM (i0xsb)

142 The defining characteristic of leftism, besides talking like a fag and their shit being retarded, is lathe lack of self reflection and analytical thinking.

So, I would hold my breath waiting for them to figure out why they lost. Reality is the last thing they will consider.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
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Authoritarian thugs want power for the sake of having power. The only consistent positition they will ever have is sending their enemies to the camps.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 20, 2024 06:19 PM (/lPRQ)

143 BOCOD

Just reminded me of a time a guy meant to say BOHICA but said BOCOD instead and we laughed at him.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 20, 2024 06:19 PM (ZKG7+)

144 For some reason, the Democrats seem determined to embrace perversion, whether it be trannies or furries or drag queens or pedophiles. They refuse to see that this kind of shit is unpopular and distasteful to the vast majority of Americans. It makes you wonder what kind of diabolical idiots control the Party.

Posted by: Don Black. Message: I ate too much and dozed off at December 20, 2024 06:19 PM (/7KEl)

145 "I'm told Chuck Graham, state senator, is here. Stand up Chuck, let 'em see you." — Biden, to wheelchair-bound Missouri state senator Chuck Graham

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 20, 2024 06:19 PM (XeU6L)

146
The Liberal Party of Canada dies with Trudeau’s career. It won’t be back.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 20, 2024 06:14 PM (7MHHr)

____________

Parties in Canada are frequently destroyed. The Progressive Conservatives were reduced to 2 seats after Kim Campbell called an election.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 20, 2024 06:20 PM (dxSpM)

147 Authoritarian thugs want power for the sake of having power.
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We're smart and sophisticated, we know what is best.

Posted by: Dems at December 20, 2024 06:21 PM (XeU6L)

148
"Democrats save the day again.
Suck it up Elon!"

Posted by: Actual DU Thread at December 20, 2024 06:21 PM (a3Q+t)

149 I just want it to get dark so I can put my jammies on and watch tv.
Posted by: Peaches at December 20, 2024 05:24 PM

Do you need jammies when it's dark?

Posted by: Philosomoron at December 20, 2024 06:22 PM (a3Q+t)

150 Of course they don't have picutured of burned face troops either.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 20, 2024 05:55 PM (n7h9X)

I guess "burned faces" was more believable than "teleported the Nork corpses back to Norkland".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2024 06:23 PM (8zz6B)

151 >>>Some of us knew this back in the '70s.
Posted by: Tonypete
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1770 is about fifteen years early.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 20, 2024 06:23 PM (Drm1A)

152 For some reason, the Democrats seem determined to embrace perversion, whether it be trannies or furries or drag queens or pedophiles. They refuse to see that this kind of shit is unpopular and distasteful to the vast majority of Americans. It makes you wonder what kind of diabolical idiots control the Party.
Posted by: Don Black. Message: I ate too much and dozed off at December 20, 2024 06:19 PM

All is proceeding as we have foreseen.

Posted by: Big Penguin at December 20, 2024 06:24 PM (a3Q+t)

153 I thought the Bald Eagle already was designated our National Bird?

https://tinyurl.com/4j5fp2c7
Posted by: Ciampino
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Watching the Dems and GOPe, Ben Franklin's preference for the turkey is becoming more logical. Although, thinking about it, the Turkey Vulture might be more appropriate.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 20, 2024 06:24 PM (XeU6L)

154 I thought the Bald Eagle already was designated our National Bird?

https://tinyurl.com/4j5fp2c7
Posted by: Ciampino
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Watching the Dems and GOPe, Ben Franklin's preference for the turkey is becoming more logical. Although, thinking about it, the Turkey Vulture might be more appropriate.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 20, 2024 06:24 PM (XeU6L)

I think Congress should designate a Congressional Bird. I recommend the pterodactyl.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 20, 2024 06:25 PM (VNX3d)

155 It still has to be passed by the Senate and signed by Joe.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 20, 2024 06:25 PM (63Dwl)

156 All is proceeding as we have foreseen.
Posted by: Big Penguin
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I love it when a plan comes together.

Posted by: Stan at December 20, 2024 06:26 PM (XeU6L)

157 Who doesn't love a yellow school bus dildo?

Posted by: Kamala Harris at December 20, 2024 06:27 PM (paSBy)

158 “While it does not include everything we sought, it includes disaster relief that the President requested for the communities recovering from the storm, eliminates the accelerated pathway to a tax cut for billionaires, and would ensure that the government can continue to operate at full capacity,” White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said.

Since this didn't pass with the suspension of debt-limit that Trump wanted, I can assume that the "accelerated pathway to a tax cut for billionaires" is Dem speak for suspension of the debt-limit. Chip Roy got what he wanted, I guess.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 20, 2024 06:27 PM (fs1hN)

159 Leading Report @LeadingReport 2h
BREAKING: Speaker Johnson was going to split the spending bill into multiple pieces but caved to Democrats who wanted an “all-in-one” bill, according to Rep. Thomas Massie

Leading Report @LeadingReport 29m
BREAKING: Spending bill to avert government shutdown has passed the House.

Disclose.tv @disclosetv 13m
JUST IN - U.S. House passes stopgap funding bill, averting government shutdown.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 20, 2024 06:27 PM (hovnC)

160
'He's a mental doctor - take it both ways.'

Huh. Just like Nidal Hassan.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 20, 2024 06:27 PM (3wi/L)

161 ZKG7+)

144 For some reason, the Democrats seem determined to embrace perversion, whether it be trannies or furries or drag queens or pedophiles. They refuse to see that this kind of shit is unpopular and distasteful to the vast majority of Americans. It makes you wonder what kind of diabolical idiots control the Party.
Posted by: Don Black. Message: I ate too much and dozed off at December 20, 2024 06:19 PM (/7KEl)

This happens to organizations that are so focused on their own virtue” that they say “we can’t judge! We’re inclusive to all! Sounds great to some, but what happens is that worst radicals find it easy to rise in these organizations - they are highly motivated to do so. As soon as they get power, they kick out all the normies and bring in all of their pervy friends to run things.

It’s happened to a lot of NGO’s and foundations, that’s how you end up with Jewish foundations sponsoring pro-Hamas protests.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 20, 2024 06:28 PM (7MHHr)

162 Wall Street Mav @WallStreetMav 6h
🚨 UPDATE:
Thomas Massie has won. The House GOP leadership is splitting the spending bill into smaller pieces.

Each section will be voted on individually and allowed to pass or fail on it's own.

CR, disaster relief, debt limit increase, etc. They will each be separate votes.

Thomas Massie @RepThomasMassie 2h Replying to @WallStreetMav
This was in fact correct when you tweeted it, but speaker Johnson flipped his decision after the meeting when he spoke to Hakeem Jeffries and realized he could get Democrat votes to pass all the legislation as one bill.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 20, 2024 06:28 PM (hovnC)

163 I think Congress should designate a Congressional Bird. I recommend the pterodactyl.
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The Dodo.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at December 20, 2024 06:28 PM (paSBy)

164 Better you than me.
Posted by: The Toaster
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Good to see you back. I suppose the couch will show up any day.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 20, 2024 06:28 PM (XeU6L)

165 Elon Musk @elonmusk 2h
So is this a Republican bill or a Democrat bill? 🤔

Thomas Massie @RepThomasMassie 2h Replying to @elonmusk
It’s much improved because of transparency & feedback X has provided.

It went from roughly 1500 pages to 100. Lots of pork was cut.

Johnson agreed this morning to pass what remained as separate bills, but when he found out Jeffries will provide votes, he went back to 1 bill.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 20, 2024 06:29 PM (hovnC)

166 JUST IN - U.S. House passes stopgap funding bill, averting government shutdown.
Posted by: andycanuck

I read that as "inverted pork rectum"

Posted by: Miklos has new glasses, so it's not that at December 20, 2024 06:29 PM (xesY+)

167 I think Congress should designate a Congressional Bird. I recommend the pterodactyl.
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The Dodo.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist
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Blue-footed booby?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 20, 2024 06:30 PM (XeU6L)

168 "This was in fact correct when you tweeted it, but speaker Johnson flipped his decision after the meeting when he spoke to Hakeem Jeffries and realized he could get Democrat votes to pass all the legislation as one bill."

dammit

Posted by: fd at December 20, 2024 06:30 PM (vFG9F)

169
'England should quit pampering them an cut them loose.'

They did in 1937.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 20, 2024 06:31 PM (3wi/L)

170 160
'He's a mental doctor - take it both ways.'

Huh. Just like Nidal Hassan.
Posted by: Dr. Claw
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And, 'Admiral' 'Rachel' Levine.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 20, 2024 06:31 PM (XeU6L)

171 nood Hits

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 20, 2024 06:32 PM (hovnC)

172 167 I think Congress should designate a Congressional Bird. I recommend the pterodactyl.
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The Dodo.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist
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Blue-footed booby?
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Where's Spurwing Plover when we really need him?

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at December 20, 2024 06:32 PM (paSBy)

173 NOOOOODDDD-uh

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 20, 2024 06:32 PM (fs1hN)

174 "This was in fact correct when you tweeted it, but speaker Johnson flipped his decision after the meeting when he spoke to Hakeem Jeffries and realized he could get Democrat votes to pass all the legislation as one bill."

So

Re-election as Speaker strategy is clear.

Posted by: Miklos would spit, but is busy drinking at December 20, 2024 06:32 PM (xesY+)

175 I read that as "inverted pork rectum"
Posted by: Miklos has new glasses,
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The boneless kind.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 20, 2024 06:34 PM (Drm1A)

176 So are we getting fucked again?
Posted by: That Chicken at December 20, 2024 06:15 PM (WNVpZ)

Like Arnold used to whisper in my ear before he penetrated me...over and over again..."Yessss!"

Posted by: Arnold's Maid at December 20, 2024 06:35 PM (R/m4+)

177 The insane wing of the Dems won't bend, their movement is religious in nature. They think they hold the moral high ground and are above the laws of govt and/or society. They believe they ARE the law and they won't stop. They will get more violent.

Posted by: Meremortal at December 20, 2024 07:13 PM (Bwqq4)

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