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Sunday Overnight Open Thread (12/15/24) - Doof
Howdy Hordelings, and welcome to the third week of December! Thanks for ending your weekend by stopping by this Sunday’s ONT. Hope you are able to stick around for a while and join in the conversation.
Is This Really A Priority? Trump wants to turn the clock on daylight saving time
In a post on his social media site Friday, Trump said his party would try to end the practice when he returns to office.
Setting clocks forward one hour in the spring and back an hour in the fall is intended to maximize daylight during summer months, but has long been subject to scrutiny. Daylight saving time was first adopted as a wartime measure in 1942. Lawmakers have occasionally proposed getting rid of the time change altogether. The most prominent recent attempt, a now-stalled bipartisan bill named the Sunshine Protection Act, had proposed making daylight saving time permanent. The measure was sponsored by Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, whom Trump has tapped to helm the State Department. “Changing the clock twice a year is outdated and unnecessary,” Republican Sen. Rick Scott of Florida said as the Senate voted in favor of the measure.
What are your thoughts? As with most things, there are pros and cons to be discussed. Just not quite sure why this has arisen as something that needs to be addressed. Have we solved all of the other problems out there? Is it really that big of an issue? What aspect of Daylight Savings Time is "costly to our nation"?Curious as to whether or not it will actually be a priority for Trump and the Republican Party. He didn’t make it clear as to whether he wants Daylight Time to be permanent or if he wants Standard Time to be permanent. Therefore, the NPCs don’t know which side they’re on yet.
When Larry Stewart was growing up in his grandparents’ home in a small Mississippi town, he didn’t know they were impoverished. It wasn’t until he started school that he learned what he “lacked” - the bathrooms, telephones, hot water and gas stoves to be found in other kids’ homes. As a young adult, Larry confronted poverty again. Living paycheck to paycheck, he became homeless when his employer went out of business owing Larry more than one check. So Larry resorted to living in his car, covering himself in his laundry in an effort to stay warm and hoping to forget his hunger. By the time he’d gone two days without a regular meal, he was so desperate that he went to the Dixie Diner and ordered breakfast without knowing how he’d pay for it. When he finished eating, he started looking around on the floor, pretending he’d lost his wallet. The cook even came out from behind the counter and helped him look. Then, suddenly, the search was over. “You must have dropped this,” the cook said. He was holding a twenty-dollar bill. Larry was so grateful that he made a vow to himself: as soon as he was able, he’d do something for others like what the cook had done for him. Over time, he became financially stable, and he set out to keep his vow. Although he wasn’t well off by any means, he knew he couldn’t put off getting started.Read the whole article. We need more people like Larry Stewart in this world.
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Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at December 15, 2024 10:00 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 15, 2024 10:00 PM (c+HYQ)
Posted by: lin-duh at December 15, 2024 10:00 PM (VCgbV)
Posted by: Some Garbage Rat at December 15, 2024 10:01 PM (+VovS)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Thawed Out Tundra at December 15, 2024 10:01 PM (QXQ4l)
Posted by: mindful webworker - that's all at December 15, 2024 10:01 PM (5nECn)
Congrats Hrothgar on your #1.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Thawed Out Tundra at December 15, 2024 10:02 PM (QXQ4l)
Posted by: Tonypete at December 15, 2024 10:02 PM (WXNFJ)
Posted by: huerfano at December 15, 2024 10:02 PM (DKIGo)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Thawed Out Tundra
Quitters don't get sprinkles. (smiley face icon here)
Posted by: Some Garbage Rat at December 15, 2024 10:03 PM (+VovS)
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at December 15, 2024 10:03 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady
It's like a calling!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at December 15, 2024 10:05 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 15, 2024 10:05 PM (hY4dx)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 15, 2024 10:05 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: huerfano
In order to enjoy all of the summer sun we would need to get up at 4:30 am. Just make it year round.
Posted by: Some Garbage Rat at December 15, 2024 10:06 PM (+VovS)
Posted by: Eromero at December 15, 2024 10:06 PM (LHPAg)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 15, 2024 10:06 PM (c+HYQ)
Congrats Hrothgar on your #1.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Thawed Out Tundra at December 15, 2024 10:02 PM (QXQ4l)
Thanks, Uncle Mis Hum!
Posted by: Doof at December 15, 2024 10:06 PM (RFPHU)
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This is a classic comment. Congrats!
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at December 15, 2024 10:06 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: Bulg at December 15, 2024 10:07 PM (v6JzV)
Posted by: Archimedes at December 15, 2024 10:07 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 15, 2024 10:08 PM (SaYr5)
Be happy to be rid of the chaos every six months that comes from daylight savings.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 15, 2024 10:08 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 15, 2024 10:08 PM (hY4dx)
Posted by: Bulg at December 15, 2024 10:08 PM (v6JzV)
Posted by: Doof at December 15, 2024 10:09 PM (RFPHU)
There is a problem without the time change, if you are at 45 North.
With permanent Daylight Time, the sun doesn't come up until 8:45 in midwinter, so the kids go to school in darkness.
With permanent Standard Time, the sun rises at 4:25 in midsummer, so all your kids and pets wake up then. You also lose an hour of daylight after dinner during the glorious summer weather.
Permanent Standard or Daylight Time may not seem like a big deal in Florida, but farther north it is increasingly an issue.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2024 10:09 PM (uxCna)
Posted by: Archimedes at December 15, 2024 10:07 PM (xCA6C)
Not big enough. I didn't see any light artillery.
Posted by: RickZ at December 15, 2024 10:10 PM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 15, 2024 10:08 PM (SaYr5)
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You could simplify the system by putting the entire planet on Zulu time.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 15, 2024 10:10 PM (hY4dx)
Posted by: banana Dream at December 15, 2024 10:10 PM (Y6IkP)
I am in favor of ending Daylight Savings Time. Doesn't save a damn thing and is annoying as hell in the fall. Not to mention that it's hard to keep track of in Arizona because part of the state doesn't follow it, and part of the state does!
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 15, 2024 10:11 PM (rxCpr)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 15, 2024 10:11 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 15, 2024 10:11 PM (SaYr5)
Posted by: Archimedes at December 15, 2024 10:07 PM (xCA6C)
Not big enough. I didn't see any light artillery.
It's behind the air base.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 15, 2024 10:12 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 15, 2024 10:11 PM (RIvkX)
Lotto winner, Russian oligarch, or trust fund baby.
Posted by: Eromero at December 15, 2024 10:12 PM (LHPAg)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 15, 2024 10:11 PM (RIvkX)
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Billy, we gotta talk.
Posted by: Taggart at December 15, 2024 10:12 PM (hY4dx)
Posted by: scampydog at December 15, 2024 10:12 PM (41CYW)
Trump wants to turn the clock on daylight saving time
Yes. Why? Because I hate it. That's why.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 15, 2024 10:13 PM (0Htd1)
2025 is going to be lit.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2024 10:14 PM (LkLld)
Posted by: scampydog at December 15, 2024 10:14 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: Piper at December 15, 2024 10:14 PM (pZEOD)
Nice ONT, Doof! Thank you.
Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at December 15, 2024 10:14 PM (TSQkU)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2024 10:14 PM (8zz6B)
Posted by: scampydog at December 15, 2024 10:14 PM (41CYW)
No worries, scumpydig!
Posted by: Doof at December 15, 2024 10:15 PM (RFPHU)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 15, 2024 10:15 PM (c+HYQ)
Posted by: Bulg at December 15, 2024 10:15 PM (v6JzV)
Posted by: banana Dream at December 15, 2024 10:15 PM (Y6IkP)
Posted by: Piper at December 15, 2024 10:14 PM (pZEOD)
Wasn't Bono supposed to have driven a double-decker bus full of "celebrities" off a cliff by now?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 15, 2024 10:15 PM (VNX3d)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2024 10:16 PM (uxCna)
Posted by: Bulg at December 15, 2024 10:16 PM (v6JzV)
Posted by: Piper at December 15, 2024 10:14 PM (pZEOD)
Wasn't Bono supposed to have driven a double-decker bus full of "celebrities" off a cliff by now?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December
Wait..what is your messaging here? If you flirt with me you want to drive not just you but your friends off a cliff?
Posted by: Piper at December 15, 2024 10:16 PM (pZEOD)
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 15, 2024 10:17 PM (SaYr5)
Posted by: Piper at December 15, 2024 10:17 PM (pZEOD)
Posted by: TRex at December 15, 2024 10:17 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: Piper at December 15, 2024 10:18 PM (pZEOD)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 15, 2024 10:18 PM (AeNpl)
2025 is going to be lit.
Posted by: JackStraw
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After 4 years of being ruled by a shadow committee of unknowns, it's nice to know that Trump is in charge.
Posted by: Florida Peasant at December 15, 2024 10:18 PM (Lo97M)
That basement needs a kitchen/grill, a popcorn machine, and a comfy place to watch John Wick (and Die Hard at Christmas).
Posted by: GWB at December 15, 2024 10:18 PM (WlvCt)
Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at December 15, 2024 10:19 PM (TSQkU)
Posted by: Piper at December 15, 2024 10:19 PM (pZEOD)
Posted by: Bulg at December 15, 2024 10:19 PM (v6JzV)
Posted by: scampydog at December 15, 2024 10:20 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: Piper at December 15, 2024 10:16 PM (pZEOD)
Bono grandiosely announced that he was going to drive his car off a cliff if Trump won the election. Pussy fag hasn't done it yet.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2024 10:20 PM (8zz6B)
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at December 15, 2024 10:21 PM (xIWND)
Posted by: Bulg at December 15, 2024 10:21 PM (v6JzV)
Posted by: PabloD at December 15, 2024 10:21 PM (NXK/x)
Posted by: Bulg at December 15, 2024 10:23 PM (v6JzV)
DST throws me off for several weeks, twice a year, so I loathe it. Keep using standard time, so noon is close to when the sun is at its highest.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 15, 2024 10:23 PM (VNX3d)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 15, 2024 10:24 PM (mH6SG)
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at December 15, 2024 10:24 PM (sAmhv)
One thought about the idea of just staying on Standard Time --
Spring and summer rec sports would be affected in many areas. Sunlight would end an hour earlier, and unless the fields are lighted, stuff like youth baseball / softball wouldn't be able to operate as it currently does. Just one of many things to consider if we are to change what is currently "normal".
Posted by: Doof at December 15, 2024 10:24 PM (RFPHU)
Posted by: Piper at December 15, 2024 10:24 PM (pZEOD)
Posted by: Bulg at December 15, 2024 10:24 PM (v6JzV)
Posted by: PabloD at December 15, 2024 10:21 PM (NXK/x)
This! Noon is noon, when the Sun is at the peak of its course across the sky. The name of the movie was High Noon, after all, not "Kinda-Sorta Up There Noon".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2024 10:24 PM (8zz6B)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2024 10:24 PM (LkLld)
Posted by: Piper at December 15, 2024 10:16 PM (pZEOD)
Not in the slightest. Just that he makes public statements, but refuses to follow through.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 15, 2024 10:25 PM (VNX3d)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
I know. I was kidding. I am just not very funny.
Posted by: Piper at December 15, 2024 10:25 PM (pZEOD)
The idea of putting my firearms in a masonry cave below the water table gives me the heebie-jeebies. You'd have to trust dehumidifiers and pumps whenever you were away, and provide alternate automatic power for them.
Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at December 15, 2024 10:25 PM (zdLoL)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 15, 2024 10:11 PM (RIvkX)
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Billy, we gotta talk.
Posted by: Taggart at December 15, 2024 10:12 PM (hY4dx)
Whistles impressively.
Posted by: Axel at December 15, 2024 10:25 PM (WlvCt)
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 15, 2024 10:25 PM (SaYr5)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 15, 2024 10:25 PM (VNX3d)
I've seen claims that some people have trouble with the switching since it fcks with your circadian rhythm and this can even cause heart problems, although knowing what we know now about SCIENCE! that could be as valid as the reasons for starting DST.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 15, 2024 10:26 PM (KcwUg)
Posted by: Booker T and the MGs at December 15, 2024 10:26 PM (G5+As)
Posted by: Ryan Frank at December 15, 2024 10:26 PM (CcF4i)
Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at December 15, 2024 10:14 PM (TSQkU)
Well, that's true everywhere.
Posted by: GWB at December 15, 2024 10:27 PM (WlvCt)
Posted by: Chicago at December 15, 2024 10:27 PM (hY4dx)
Spring and summer rec sports would be affected in many areas. Sunlight would end an hour earlier, and unless the fields are lighted, stuff like youth baseball / softball wouldn't be able to operate as it currently does. Just one of many things to consider if we are to change what is currently "normal".
Posted by: Doof at December 15, 2024 10:24 PM (RFPHU)
Midnight basketball would be totally unaffected, however...
There is no reason that schools and workplaces could not adopt Winter and Summer hours, to make best use of the available daylight all year round.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2024 10:28 PM (8zz6B)
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 15, 2024 10:25 PM (SaYr5)
If we can drop DST we can adjust the time zone boundaries, especially for you people up near or in Canadia.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 15, 2024 10:28 PM (KcwUg)
It causes too many accidents when we "sprint forward".
So pick a time either DST or not or hell split the difference I don't care...but no more clock changing
Posted by: 18-1 at December 15, 2024 10:28 PM (oZhjI)
Posted by: The FNM at December 15, 2024 10:29 PM (oZhjI)
Sausage Fest.
Needs a couple female Asian 18-24 year old underwear model/personal assistants to brighten the place up...
Posted by: Rod Porkmore at December 15, 2024 10:29 PM (YxSmJ)
Posted by: pookysgirl would like to yell at election officials quite often at December 15, 2024 10:29 PM (dtlDP)
Posted by: Some Garbage Rat at December 15, 2024 10:30 PM (+VovS)
Posted by: You Know Who at December 15, 2024 10:30 PM (G5+As)
Posted by: The FNM at December 15, 2024 10:29 PM (oZhjI)
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Naw that was me.
Posted by: Bill Gates at December 15, 2024 10:30 PM (hY4dx)
I do like the accompaniment of a nice young Thai lady with a plump set of lady balls sometimes myself as well
Posted by: David French at December 15, 2024 10:30 PM (oZhjI)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 15, 2024 10:30 PM (mH6SG)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2024 10:30 PM (1m82a)
Posted by: Eromero at December 15, 2024 10:31 PM (LHPAg)
Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at December 15, 2024 10:31 PM (TSQkU)
Posted by: Andy_in_Colorado at December 15, 2024 10:31 PM (6FgBj)
Posted by: Eromero at December 15, 2024 10:31 PM (LHPAg)
Posted by: TRex at December 15, 2024 10:32 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 15, 2024 10:33 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: From about That Time at December 15, 2024 10:34 PM (4780s)
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Somebody's gonna have to go back and git a shitload of dimes.
Posted by: Taggart at December 15, 2024 10:34 PM (hY4dx)
Posted by: tankdemon at December 15, 2024 10:34 PM (WYPRS)
Posted by: Eromero at December 15, 2024 10:34 PM (LHPAg)
Daylight savings time should be permanent year around. More daylight in the evenings to do stuff.
Posted by: Elderly Git at December 15, 2024 10:34 PM (YxSmJ)
Hard to say which I hate more, though: Mariah Carey or Bruce fucking Springsteen's Santa Claus is Comin' to Town.
Of course I need to add Grandma Got run over by a Reindeer.
Eric Cartman's O Holy Night is way better.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Ready for the Cart at December 15, 2024 10:34 PM (Ad8y9)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2024 10:34 PM (1m82a)
Posted by: tankdemon at December 15, 2024 10:34 PM (WYPRS)
Posted by: Andy_in_Colorado at December 15, 2024 10:35 PM (6FgBj)
https://shorturl.at/7gUQU
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 15, 2024 10:35 PM (KcwUg)
Posted by: TRex at December 15, 2024 10:32 PM (IQ6Gq)
Oh so it's not just me -- you haven't found the vaunted AOSHQ time machine either??
Posted by: Doof at December 15, 2024 10:35 PM (RFPHU)
Posted by: GWB at December 15, 2024 10:35 PM (WlvCt)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 15, 2024 10:36 PM (D6PGr)
Posted by: GWB at December 15, 2024 10:35 PM (WlvCt)
We agree.
Posted by: dogs and cats waiting for dinner at December 15, 2024 10:36 PM (KcwUg)
Posted by: Archimedes at December 15, 2024 10:36 PM (xCA6C)
*puts quarter on glass*
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 15, 2024 10:33 PM (RIvkX)
When I was a wee Peon, my father brought home an ancient pinball machine. The full-color artwork on the backboard featured a deep-sea diver in a hard-hat suit opening a treasure chest in a sunken galleon. The machine was older than the advent of flippers, and ran on nickels. Sadly, he sold it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2024 10:37 PM (8zz6B)
I have a weird dislike for the uncanny valley.
I do, however, love the Charlie Brown holiday shows. So I am not totally without a soul.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bah!. humbug! at December 15, 2024 10:38 PM (Ad8y9)
Posted by: Steiner, 8 beers in at December 15, 2024 10:38 PM (sAmhv)
The main problem is the changeover twice a year and the effect on circadian rhythms.
At my age I tend to go to bed early, very annoying in summer that it's still light outside. Who needs it. Get rid of it.
Posted by: Here in Italy at December 15, 2024 10:38 PM (iRJ3E)
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neither ! it will show up at 10pm time adjusted to your time zone
Posted by: runner at December 15, 2024 10:38 PM (QTCRF)
Posted by: Beartooth at December 15, 2024 10:38 PM (WuJwx)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 15, 2024 10:38 PM (D6PGr)
Posted by: GWB at December 15, 2024 10:35 PM (WlvCt)
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What would really be an impressive way to own nature would be to swap north and south every six months.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 15, 2024 10:39 PM (hY4dx)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at December 15, 2024 10:39 PM (oZhjI)
Wife resents DST because she grew up in a rural town, and everyone cherished the summer hours just after dusk fell. Those times are after curfew now, and denied to youth, who are supposed to be occupied with Organized Adult-Led Activity.
Just chew on that for a while and consider what has become of us.
Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at December 15, 2024 10:39 PM (zdLoL)
Posted by: Andy_in_Colorado at December 15, 2024 10:35 PM (6FgBj)
Part of the problem is goodly chunks of each time zone already aren't on "noon is up" time. So, if you go to Standard time, those areas suffer. Of course, if you go to Daylight permanently, then the other side of the zone suffers. Because hour-wide time zones are a wee bit artificial.
Posted by: GWB at December 15, 2024 10:39 PM (WlvCt)
Posted by: Piper at December 15, 2024 10:39 PM (pZEOD)
With permanent Daylight Time, the sun doesn't come up until 8:45 in midwinter, so the kids go to school in darkness.
Since the local government school system can't possibly change their hours, the entire nation has to be screwed over with this pointless time change.
I propose we abandon DST or SDT and go UTC. Every computer can handle it, almost all data systems are already in this format, and people can just have breakfast at 1300 UTC Lunch at 1800 and dinner whenever.
It isn't like going to the metric system and doing conversions. Just set your stupid watch and agree with your neighbors on what time you want to do things. Sort of like how businesses in multiple time zones do it now.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 15, 2024 10:39 PM (rHxhM)
Hard to say which I hate more, though: Mariah Carey or Bruce fucking Springsteen's Santa Claus is Comin' to Town.
Of course I need to add Grandma Got run over by a Reindeer.
Eric Cartman's O Holy Night is way better.
Posted by: Pug Mahon
Springsteen's Santa Claus is Comin' to Town is red hot garbage.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at December 15, 2024 10:40 PM (sAmhv)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 15, 2024 10:40 PM (D6PGr)
I haz a dumb.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bah!. humbug! at December 15, 2024 10:41 PM (Ad8y9)
Posted by: Steve Miller at December 15, 2024 10:41 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 15, 2024 10:38 PM (D6PGr)
Well, I think I've found the source of our problem....
Posted by: GWB at December 15, 2024 10:41 PM (WlvCt)
Sure, black-out drapes and a fan for white noise to drown out the neighborhood kids. Would've been nice to open a window, but no.....
Posted by: JQ at December 15, 2024 10:41 PM (YoCnN)
Tick tok
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2024 10:41 PM (LkLld)
Hard to say which I hate more, though: Mariah Carey or Bruce fucking Springsteen's Santa Claus is Comin' to Town.
Of course I need to add Grandma Got run over by a Reindeer.
Eric Cartman's O Holy Night is way better.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Ready for the Cart at December 15, 2024 10:34 PM (Ad8y9)
"Commercial music" vs Christmas carols. I hear ya.
Posted by: pookysgirl's daughter goes caroling at December 15, 2024 10:41 PM (dtlDP)
Posted by: GWB at December 15, 2024 10:39 PM (WlvCt)
Really cut down on train wrecks, though.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2024 10:41 PM (8zz6B)
Posted by: guzano - Vic R.I.P (fucbd) at December 15, 2024 10:41 PM (v1eJ7)
Posted by: Abehawks at December 15, 2024 10:41 PM (PneF7)
Posted by: Diogenes at December 15, 2024 10:41 PM (W/lyH)
Since the local government school system can't possibly change their hours, the entire nation has to be screwed over with this pointless time change.
On a similar note, why do the school still insist on getting teenagers up early and little kids up later for school?
Posted by: 18-1 at December 15, 2024 10:42 PM (oZhjI)
Posted by: Bruce Fucking Springsteen at December 15, 2024 10:42 PM (hY4dx)
Now argue for the 14 states that are split up into multiple time zones.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 15, 2024 10:42 PM (rHxhM)
Posted by: Diogenes at December 15, 2024 10:42 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: scampydog at December 15, 2024 10:42 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: Steve Miller at December 15, 2024 10:43 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Puddleglum
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Agree. Much prefer the Andrews Sisters!
youtube.com/watch?v=VE2YEjWhHwE
Posted by: JQ at December 15, 2024 10:43 PM (YoCnN)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 15, 2024 10:44 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
The thing with those entertainment industry types who threaten to drive off a cliff, move to Canada, or whatever, is that they think we actually give a damn what they do. And Bono in particular, doesn't have the balls to do a Thelma and Louise.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 15, 2024 10:44 PM (0Htd1)
Posted by: Elderly Git
I second the Git!
Posted by: Ol' Codger at December 15, 2024 10:44 PM (G5+As)
Posted by: Diogenes at December 15, 2024 10:42 PM (W/lyH)
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Then there's the de rigueur masturbation closet.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 15, 2024 10:44 PM (hY4dx)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 15, 2024 10:44 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Diogenes at December 15, 2024 10:42 PM (W/lyH)
And a room with a great sound system to play LPs.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bah!. humbug! at December 15, 2024 10:44 PM (Ad8y9)
Posted by: Diogenes at December 15, 2024 10:42 PM (W/lyH)
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Then there's the de rigueur masturbation closet.
You're forgetting the sewing room and pit with rope and bucket.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 15, 2024 10:45 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: 18-1 at December 15, 2024 10:42 PM (oZhjI)
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No idea!
-the Teachers
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 15, 2024 10:46 PM (RIvkX)
Except your solstices are in late June and late December.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 15, 2024 10:46 PM (rHxhM)
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 15, 2024 10:44 PM (0Htd1)
Rob Reiner was going to set himself on fire, and Bette Midler was going to drink Drano. I wonder if we could start a class-action suit for breach of promise?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2024 10:46 PM (8zz6B)
Posted by: 18-1 at December 15, 2024 10:42 PM (oZhjI)
I think that has to do with school bus utilization and traffic. Same buses are used 3 times per day on a staggered schedule in my area (high school, middle school, elementary school).
Posted by: Doof at December 15, 2024 10:46 PM (RFPHU)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 15, 2024 10:47 PM (D6PGr)
Posted by: Some Garbage Rat at December 15, 2024 10:06 PM (+VovS)
I already get up at 4.30 in the summer. That is when I work in the garden
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2024 10:47 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 15, 2024 10:42 PM (rHxhM)
I didn't mention states, just the zones. Which were, admittedly, in most cases drawn very artificially along state lines. It makes sense in some ways, and not in others.
Of course, Alaska and Texas have now entered the chat.
I'm just pointing out that when you draw these time zones, especially an hour wide, the folks at the edges get screwed fairly substantially when time switches.
Posted by: GWB at December 15, 2024 10:47 PM (WlvCt)
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 15, 2024 10:47 PM (SSBCb)
I think that has to do with school bus utilization and traffic. Same buses are used 3 times per day on a staggered schedule in my area (high school, middle school, elementary school).
But my argument is that since little kids tend to be early birds more then teens, it would make more sense to have the elementary school start first...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 15, 2024 10:47 PM (oZhjI)
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 15, 2024 10:46 PM (rHxhM)
That’s why we can’t use a sundial.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 15, 2024 10:48 PM (D6PGr)
I prefer Bob River's versions of the Excessmass Classics. Especially the Santa Claus is Comin' To Town improvement.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 15, 2024 10:48 PM (rHxhM)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 15, 2024 10:48 PM (D6PGr)
Posted by: Bulg at December 15, 2024 10:49 PM (v6JzV)
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 15, 2024 10:42 PM (rHxhM)
I didn't mention states, just the zones. Which were, admittedly, in most cases drawn very artificially along state lines. It makes sense in some ways, and not in others.
Of course, Alaska and Texas have now entered the chat.
I'm just pointing out that when you draw these time zones, especially an hour wide, the folks at the edges get screwed fairly substantially when time switches.
Posted by: GWB at December 15, 2024 10:47 PM (WlvCt)
There is the Chinese CCP way; the entire country is one time zone...
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 15, 2024 10:49 PM (SSBCb)
Posted by: 18-1 at December 15, 2024 10:47 PM (oZhjI)
Having the teens get off earlier in the afternoon would benefit those who had part-time jobs, though.
Quaint concept, i know.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2024 10:49 PM (8zz6B)
I like DST because it gives all the plants an extra hour of sunlight.....
That was an actual answer given to some "man on the street" interviews a local newspaper was doing about if one was pro or anti-DST.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 15, 2024 10:50 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2024 10:50 PM (LkLld)
Posted by: scampydog at December 15, 2024 10:50 PM (41CYW)
Tick tok
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2024 10:41 PM (LkLld)
Yeah I'd rather see it go it's full course and push to have them lose their "news" division
Posted by: Doof at December 15, 2024 10:51 PM (RFPHU)
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 15, 2024 10:42 PM (rHxhM)
I didn't mention states, just the zones. Which were, admittedly, in most cases drawn very artificially along state lines. It makes sense in some ways, and not in others.
Of course, Alaska and Texas have now entered the chat.
I'm just pointing out that when you draw these time zones, especially an hour wide, the folks at the edges get screwed fairly substantially when time switches.
Posted by: GWB at December 15, 2024 10:47 PM (WlvCt)
We could always go to 15 or 30 minute wide time zones. There are a number of countries who have that type of offset - like Canada!
Yes, this is as much of a joke as the original description of DST by Ben Franklin.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 15, 2024 10:51 PM (VNX3d)
You may have noticed that the guy who had that multi-million dollar man cave had toys that involved skill and intellectual interaction.
Sitting on his ass inebriated and staring at the boob toob is outside of his nature. Leave that for the losers.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 15, 2024 10:51 PM (rHxhM)
Posted by: Miklos in best "Jaws" theme song voice at December 15, 2024 10:52 PM (xesY+)
And yet you’re staring at a computer screen. Genius.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 15, 2024 10:53 PM (D6PGr)
Posted by: SFGoth at December 15, 2024 10:53 PM (KAi1n)
THe history of time zones, GMT, and time-keeping, astro-gnomonical time vs uniform time and all that is very interesting, and lengthy.
In the old days, before rapid transportation and rapid communication, time was an entirely local things. One set one's local civil clock to noon when the sun was directly overhead. If you knew the Equation of Time, and a bit about astronomical definitions of solar time, one could correct to local mean time, but most didn't bother. It didn't matter for local civil purposes, and the accuracy of most clocks wasn't enough that it mattered much. The human perception of the variability of local apparent solar time isn't enough over short time periods.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 15, 2024 10:53 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Kindltot
Since I get up at the crack of 9, one can see my conundrum.
Posted by: Some Garbage Rat at December 15, 2024 10:54 PM (+VovS)
Hard to say which I hate more, though: Mariah Carey or Bruce fucking Springsteen's Santa Claus is Comin' to Town.
Of course I need to add Grandma Got run over by a Reindeer.
Eric Cartman's O Holy Night is way better.
Posted by: Pug Mahon
Who would have thought the parody Christmas song "Walking around in Women's Underwear" (Walking in a Winter Wonderland ), would become obsolete due to leftist mental illness.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IbPy9zqWGcU
Posted by: Beartooth at December 15, 2024 10:54 PM (WuJwx)
Yes, this is as much of a joke as the original description of DST by Ben Franklin.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 15, 2024 10:51 PM (VNX3d)
Newfoundland is the only Province with a half-hour time zone. I think the roots of that come from the fact that Newfoundland was not a part of Canada until 1949.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2024 10:55 PM (8zz6B)
We could always go to 15 or 30 minute wide time zones. There are a number of countries who have that type of offset - like Canada!
It seems to me that people are acting as slaves to an arbitrary time set on a clock. The clock says noon so I must have lunch and lunch can not include breakfast or cocktails.
What exactly is wrong with UTC and making local agreements as to when meetings, social events, business and sleep take place?
For those who must have lunch when the sun is overhead, go ahead and do it when the sun is overhead? Why must a clock agree perfectly with the sun's zenith?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 15, 2024 10:55 PM (rHxhM)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2024 10:56 PM (1m82a)
*de-lurks*
*lurks, waiting for Targets of Opportunity*
Posted by: Miklos in best "Jaws" theme song voice at December 15, 2024 10:52 PM (xesY+)
***
*does three second zig-zag run*
*finishes with combat roll*
Ready!
Posted by: Diogenes at December 15, 2024 10:56 PM (W/lyH)
Mine has 3 guitars, guitar synth, a bass, bunch of keyboards, e-drum kit, 2 guitar amps and a bass amp, a volcano, and a chamber pot. Simple but enjoyable.
Posted by: SFGoth at December 15, 2024 10:56 PM (KAi1n)
No come the railroads and the telegraph, differences in local time became significant. The railroads learned, the hard way, that synchronizing clocks was a matter of life and death. There were a number of accidents, collisions, caused by clocks being set to different local times.
One I remember, 14 people were killed when one train ran into another. That was just stupid, and the notion of "railroad time" came about. They even developed methods of synchronizing clocks over the telegraph, an early predecessor of NTP and similar.
That evolved into the time zone system.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 15, 2024 10:57 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 15, 2024 10:57 PM (D6PGr)
I earned over two grand this weekend "staring at a computer screen".
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 15, 2024 10:57 PM (rHxhM)
The last flyable Martin JRM Mars flying boat, 'Philippine Mars,' was supposed to fly to San Francisco before reaching its destination at the Pima Air Museum.
This was the second attempt. The plane has sat idle since 2006 due to changes in Canadian fire fighting policy. Plus age. And scarcity. Only two Mars flying boats still exist.
A low oil pressure reading on #2 R-3350 lead to an abort on first attempt. Turned out to be a bad sensor so second attempt was scheduled for today.
Aircraft departed Sprout Lake and was heading to the US when another problem cropped up. What the exact problem is is unknown but #4 was feathered and the plane safely landed on Lake Patricia due to fog at point of origin.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 15, 2024 10:57 PM (gPDe9)
Posted by: SFGoth at December 15, 2024 10:57 PM (KAi1n)
Posted by: RickZ at December 15, 2024 10:57 PM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 15, 2024 10:53 PM (D6PGr)
Well, we Morons at intellectually involved with the people on the other side of the screen. At least in theory/
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2024 10:57 PM (8zz6B)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2024 10:55 PM (8zz6B)
I wasn't aware that Newfoundland wasn't part of Canada until relatively recently. Learned something new!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 15, 2024 10:57 PM (VNX3d)
Posted by: scampydog at December 15, 2024 10:57 PM (41CYW)
Is that supposed to impress me. It certainly wasn’t for staring at the aos comments.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 15, 2024 10:58 PM (D6PGr)
M I K - L O S
M I K - L O S
MIK-LOS MIK-LOS MIK-LOS MIK-LOS....
Posted by: pookysgirl can't remember the rest at December 15, 2024 10:59 PM (dtlDP)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2024 10:59 PM (1m82a)
We went on it in WWI, not 1942 as reported, because the Kaiser did. We also nationalized the railroads.
Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at December 15, 2024 10:59 PM (zdLoL)
*finishes with combat roll*
Ready!
Posted by: Diogenes at December 15, 2024 10:56 PM (W/lyH)
Serpentine, Shel. Serpentine!
Posted by: RickZ at December 15, 2024 10:59 PM (gKDq2)
*finishes with combat roll*
Ready!
Posted by: Diogenes at December 15, 2024 10:56 PM (W/lyH)
Serpentine, Shelly! Serpentine!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 15, 2024 10:59 PM (VNX3d)
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure
Now you're getting personal. I'm offended.
Posted by: Hanging Out-Holding On at December 15, 2024 10:59 PM (G5+As)
But I do not like it to be dark when I get home from work. That's a signal to go to bed but 5:30 pm is way to early.
Posted by: Emmie at December 15, 2024 10:59 PM (Sf2cq)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2024 10:56 PM (1m82a)
A Crown Colony, like Bermuda, IIRC. They had their own coins and postage stamps, with the King's image on them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2024 11:00 PM (8zz6B)
When you build your foundation on lies and corruption it won't last forever. It's all coming down. Slowly, then all at once.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2024 11:01 PM (LkLld)
*finishes with combat roll*
Ready!
Posted by: Diogenes at December 15, 2024 10:56 PM (W/lyH)
Penny rocket war starts in
3-2-1
Posted by: Miklos asks if Roman Candles are in the ROI at December 15, 2024 11:01 PM (xesY+)
While I have a build running, I can interact with those making aos comments.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 15, 2024 11:01 PM (rHxhM)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 15, 2024 11:01 PM (eQnUv)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2024 11:01 PM (1m82a)
Posted by: SFGoth at December 15, 2024 11:01 PM (KAi1n)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 15, 2024 11:01 PM (mH6SG)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 15, 2024 11:02 PM (gPDe9)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 15, 2024 11:01 PM (mH6SG)
No we won't!!!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 15, 2024 11:02 PM (KcwUg)
Posted by: keena at December 15, 2024 11:03 PM (biznJ)
Posted by: pookysgirl can't remember the rest
I am doing well to remember that much.
Posted by: Joe "Miklos" Biden at December 15, 2024 11:03 PM (xesY+)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 15, 2024 11:03 PM (gPDe9)
We went on it in WWI, not 1942 as reported, because the Kaiser did. We also nationalized the railroads.
Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at December 15, 2024 10:59 PM (zdLoL)
Standard Time itself was championed by a Canadian, Sir Sandford Fleming. He did a good selling job on it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2024 11:03 PM (8zz6B)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2024 11:03 PM (LkLld)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 15, 2024 11:01 PM (mH6SG)
Hah . It won’t be about whether Die Hard is a Christmas movie😃
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 15, 2024 11:03 PM (D6PGr)
Stay with Standard Time. Kids should go work in the mines and mills when it's dark anyway. Toughens them up.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 15, 2024 11:03 PM (eQnUv)
The Romans essentially did that back in the days of the Republic. They divided sunrise to sunset into 12 units, which is where "hour" comes from. (Noon originally was the 9th, "nonce" hour, but it came to mean midday, high noon).
At Rome's latitude, an hour was about 45 minutes at the Winter solstice, and 75 minutes on the summer solstice. They knew it was variable and non-uniform. They didn't care.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 15, 2024 11:04 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 15, 2024 11:01 PM (mH6SG)
Hah . It won’t be about whether Die Hard is a Christmas movie😃
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 15, 2024 11:03 PM (D6PGr)
Die Hard is a Harry Potter movie.
He's hiding from Alan Rickman.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 15, 2024 11:05 PM (KcwUg)
I believe it was first implemented in Canada but I could be wrong.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 15, 2024 11:05 PM (D6PGr)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 15, 2024 11:05 PM (mH6SG)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 15, 2024 11:03 PM (gPDe9)
It's an amphibian. So it has wheels, and it knows how to use them (ZZ TOP riff)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2024 11:05 PM (8zz6B)
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at December 15, 2024 11:05 PM (oEKqH)
Posted by: PabloD at December 15, 2024 10:21 PM (NXK/x)
When I built my woodshed I decided to align it north and south by sinking the one post, and setting my flags at noon. By the time I got done faffing around with it all, I wound up aligning it with 12:15.
I think it is a curse on the property, my house, which was built in 1965 is also aligned either with 12:15 or magnetic north, and is out of alignment with all the other houses in the neighborhood.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2024 11:06 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 15, 2024 11:06 PM (gPDe9)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2024 10:56 PM (1m82a)
A Crown Colony, like Bermuda, IIRC. They had their own coins and postage stamps, with the King's image on them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2024 11:00 PM (8zz6B)
Dad collected stamps from around the world when he was young. I have some Newfoundland stamps and a few from other territories and countries that no longer exist.
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 15, 2024 11:06 PM (SSBCb)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 15, 2024 11:01 PM (mH6SG)
No we won't!!!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 15, 2024 11:02 PM (KcwUg)
***
Yes huh!!!
*stamps foot*
Posted by: Diogenes at December 15, 2024 11:06 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 15, 2024 11:07 PM (gPDe9)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2024 11:07 PM (8zz6B)
Posted by: Zombie Hans Gruber at December 15, 2024 11:08 PM (mH6SG)
Was detained by some erotic overtures at Wiki but it's here now.
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 15, 2024 11:08 PM (+3jTj)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 15, 2024 11:01 PM (eQnUv)
Howdy H7!
Posted by: Doof at December 15, 2024 11:08 PM (RFPHU)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 15, 2024 11:08 PM (VNX3d)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 15, 2024 11:08 PM (XV/Pl)
ONT with the Doofster!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
The Doofman
The Doofmeister
Von Doofersteiner
The King of Baltimore Dooefsteinings
Posted by: King Mikos orders Hids People to do some form of obeisance at December 15, 2024 11:08 PM (xesY+)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 15, 2024 11:08 PM (RIvkX)
Spring and summer rec sports would be affected in many areas. Sunlight would end an hour earlier, and unless the fields are lighted, stuff like youth baseball / softball wouldn't be able to operate as it currently does. Just one of many things to consider if we are to change what is currently "normal".
Posted by: Doof at December 15, 2024 10:24 PM (RFPHU)
Like Joshua, Congress raises its collective arms and bades the sun to stop in its track, and for . . . Youth baseball? It wields such awesome power over a nation for convenience of summer rec sports?
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2024 11:08 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 15, 2024 11:09 PM (gPDe9)
We actually tried year round DST during Nixon in the early 70s. It didn't last a year. A majority was all for it (it was billed as "energy saving", which it isn't with modern energy usage patterns).
Until winter, when in the worst places (locations whose time zone is way west of the time zone meridian) sunrise didn't occur until very late.
Support dropped quickly, and it was abandoned.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 15, 2024 11:11 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 15, 2024 11:11 PM (VNX3d)
Posted by: Zombie Hans Gruber at December 15, 2024 11:08 PM (mH6SG)
Tell envirowackos that by getting rid of DST, earth gets less sun, thus fights globull warmening
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 15, 2024 11:11 PM (SSBCb)
Dad collected stamps from around the world when he was young. I have some Newfoundland stamps and a few from other territories and countries that no longer exist.
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia)
I collected stamps as a kid.
The most colorful and interesting ones were from countries with no money.
Posted by: Miklos, collector, hoarder, and wrecker at December 15, 2024 11:11 PM (xesY+)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 15, 2024 11:01 PM (mH6SG)
No we won't!!!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 15, 2024 11:02 PM (KcwUg)
***
Yes huh!!!
*stamps foot*
Posted by: Diogenes
I, for one, applaude our "can't do" attitude!
Posted by: Some Garbage Rat at December 15, 2024 11:12 PM (+VovS)
No clue.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 15, 2024 11:09 PM (gPDe9)
Air-cooled, 2-liter, I assume. I am skittish of the 1700 and larger engines. Parts are super-expensive, and I don't believe they are as reliable as the 1600 dual-port models.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2024 11:12 PM (8zz6B)
Posted by: guzano - Vic R.I.P (fucbd) at December 15, 2024 11:12 PM (v1eJ7)
We went on it in WWI, not 1942 as reported, because the Kaiser did.
Put the Kibosh on the Kaiser!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 15, 2024 11:12 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Some Garbage Rat at December 15, 2024 11:12 PM (+VovS)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
---
Hear, hear
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 15, 2024 11:13 PM (+3jTj)
Posted by: pookysgirl would like to yell at election officials quite often at December 15, 2024 10:29 PM (dtlDP)
At the end of WWII, the Oregon Legislature in it's collective wisdom decided that observance of DST should be considered on a city by city basis, each municipality to make the decision on its own.
It was a charlie foxtrot. Especially with intercity busses and trains.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2024 11:13 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2024 11:08 PM (D7oie)
Well, I did say "one of many things".
Posted by: Doof at December 15, 2024 11:14 PM (RFPHU)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 15, 2024 11:08 PM (RIvkX)
They only care about the south side of Dildos?
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 15, 2024 11:14 PM (SSBCb)
Go to "time.gov" and see the US time zones in all the glory. For the lower 48, you'll see the upper Michigan peninsula and middle Indiana are the worst of being too far west of the 75d EST meridian.
Alaska, should really be one time zone to the west. In Fairbanks, getting close to the Arctic circle, sunset during DST around the summer solstice occurs *after midnight*.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 15, 2024 11:14 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 15, 2024 11:14 PM (gPDe9)
I dunno, maybe this happens every other week. But we now have central VA Navy installations, a US base in the UK, Ramstein in Germany, and now Wright-Pat with confirmed unknown intruder activity.
Seems like maybe more than shark attack reports in August 2001. Seems.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2024 11:14 PM (1m82a)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
I know. I was kidding. I am just not very funny.
Posted by: Piper
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If he did it in a Tesla he would survive intact.
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 15, 2024 11:14 PM (+3jTj)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2024 10:30 PM (1m82a)
There was a double DST during WWII, Dad talked about going to school in absolute darkness in the winter, in Tacoma.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2024 11:15 PM (D7oie)
So you might say the Italians invented time so they could be late.
Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at December 15, 2024 11:15 PM (zdLoL)
Posted by: Thomas Bender
Skeeball
He said Skeeball
Posted by: Miklos, who knows it's all in the wrist at December 15, 2024 11:16 PM (xesY+)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 15, 2024 11:16 PM (mH6SG)
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 15, 2024 11:14 PM (SSBCb)
===
Ha!
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 15, 2024 11:16 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: RickZ at December 15, 2024 11:16 PM (gKDq2)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2024 11:16 PM (1m82a)
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2024 11:08 PM (D7oie)
I'm pretty sure Doof is thinking of pickleball.
Posted by: Emmie at December 15, 2024 11:16 PM (Sf2cq)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
I know. I was kidding. I am just not very funny.
Posted by: Piper
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If he did it in a Tesla he would survive intact.
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 15, 2024 11:14 PM (+3jTj)
If he used a Pinto, he'd have to go backwards....
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 15, 2024 11:16 PM (VNX3d)
The Doofmeister
Von Doofersteiner
The King of Baltimore Dooefsteinings
Posted by: King Mikos orders Hids People to do some form of obeisance at December 15, 2024 11:08 PM (xesY+)
Greetings, Sir Miklosian the Great
Posted by: Doof at December 15, 2024 11:16 PM (RFPHU)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 15, 2024 11:16 PM (gPDe9)
Dad collected stamps from around the world when he was young. I have some Newfoundland stamps and a few from other territories and countries that no longer exist.
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia)
I collected stamps as a kid.
The most colorful and interesting ones were from countries with no money.
Posted by: Miklos, collector, hoarder, and wrecker at December 15, 2024 11:11 PM (xesY+)
Some of the names were a hoot. An African country called Dahomey? Why yes.
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 15, 2024 11:17 PM (SSBCb)
Posted by: Emmie at December 15, 2024 11:16 PM (Sf2cq)
Well I am NOW!
Posted by: Doof at December 15, 2024 11:18 PM (RFPHU)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 15, 2024 11:18 PM (63Dwl)
Michigan used to be on Central as well. I forget why, but Detroit wanted to be on EST. It was some "leisure", more daylight after quitting time thing, IIRC, and not Detroit wanted to be synced with NYC, as I guessed.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 15, 2024 11:19 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Miklos, wants, but does not have, a schickelhaube at December 15, 2024 11:19 PM (xesY+)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2024 11:19 PM (1m82a)
Posted by: Some Garbage Rat at December 15, 2024 11:20 PM (+VovS)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2024 11:20 PM (1m82a)
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 15, 2024 11:17 PM (SSBCb)
I think one of the most popular stamps in the US was the Elvis stamp.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 15, 2024 11:21 PM (D6PGr)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2024 10:46 PM (8zz6B)
I would offer to mail Bette a bottle of Draino and a swizzle stick, but I hate prison.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2024 11:21 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: guzano - Vic R.I.P (fucbd) at December 15, 2024 11:21 PM (v1eJ7)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2024 11:22 PM (8zz6B)
He still sells those at Burger King.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 15, 2024 11:22 PM (mH6SG)
Posted by: Doof at December 15, 2024 11:18 PM (RFPHU)
You're cracking me up over here.
Thought about you the other night. My husband actually danced with me at a Christmas party and the thing that got him on the dance floor was ...
Disco!
Posted by: Emmie at December 15, 2024 11:23 PM (Sf2cq)
Posted by: Scarymary at December 15, 2024 11:23 PM (F2xQR)
Posted by: Kindltot
You could end up at the top of the inmate hierarchy.
Posted by: Some Garbage Rat at December 15, 2024 11:23 PM (+VovS)
Posted by: SnailRacer at December 15, 2024 11:23 PM (X7Em0)
Posted by: guzano - Vic R.I.P (fucbd) at December 15, 2024 11:23 PM (v1eJ7)
Posted by: Kindltot
I sent a Krispy Kreme gift card to Sotomayor, and am currently not in jail.
Posted by: Miklos just wants people to be happy at December 15, 2024 11:23 PM (xesY+)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2024 11:20 PM (1m82a)
I remember reading about "British Double Summer Time".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2024 11:23 PM (8zz6B)
Posted by: Some Garbage Rat at December 15, 2024 10:54 PM (+VovS)
Insomnia is great, everyone should try it
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2024 11:24 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2024 11:19 PM (1m82a)
I believe you are correct on both notes, and Dad had stamps from both.
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 15, 2024 11:24 PM (SSBCb)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2024 10:46 PM (8zz6B)
I don't get leftists. All I ever thought was "if Obama 'wins' I'll go to work nursing a hangover."
Which I did.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bah!. humbug! at December 15, 2024 11:24 PM (Ad8y9)
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 15, 2024 10:57 PM (rHxhM)
No one but the very top tier make that sort of money on OnlyFans, stop pretending.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2024 11:25 PM (D7oie)
Which I did.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bah!. humbug! at December 15, 2024 11:24 PM (Ad8y9)
Me too.
Posted by: Hilary Clinton at December 15, 2024 11:26 PM (F2xQR)
I remember reading about "British Double Summer Time".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Double dumb-ass time.
Posted by: Spock at December 15, 2024 11:27 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: guzano - Vic R.I.P (fucbd) at December 15, 2024 11:23 PM (v1eJ7)
It's weird that the Peckers winning helps the Vikings. but, being a long-suffering Vikings fan, I never allow myself to become too optimistic. they always find a way to fuck shit up.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bah!. humbug! at December 15, 2024 11:27 PM (Ad8y9)
Posted by: Miklos does not get what he wants at December 15, 2024 11:27 PM (xesY+)
Posted by: Some Garbage Rat at December 15, 2024 11:20 PM (+VovS)
There was always FAP time...
https://tinyurl.com/2ruwj23n
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 15, 2024 11:27 PM (SSBCb)
This can't be true. I was told it was a conspiracy theory.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2024 11:27 PM (LkLld)
If I had to choose one way or another, I'd go with Standard Time because I really don't want to wait until 8:30 for sunrise in January. But mainly, I want things left the way they currently are.
Posted by: Dr. T at December 15, 2024 11:28 PM (lHPJf)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 15, 2024 11:29 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Doof at December 15, 2024 11:18 PM (RFPHU)
You're cracking me up over here.
Thought about you the other night. My husband actually danced with me at a Christmas party and the thing that got him on the dance floor was ...
Disco!
Posted by: Emmie at December 15, 2024 11:23 PM (Sf2cq)
Did it ring his bell?
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 15, 2024 11:29 PM (SSBCb)
Thought about you the other night. My husband actually danced with me at a Christmas party and the thing that got him on the dance floor was ...
Disco!
Posted by: Emmie at December 15, 2024 11:23 PM (Sf2cq)
Very nice! It's time to Make Disco Great Again
Posted by: Doof at December 15, 2024 11:30 PM (RFPHU)
https://tinyurl.com/2ruwj23n
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia)
You are SO off my Christmas Card list.
Posted by: Some Garbage Rat at December 15, 2024 11:31 PM (+VovS)
Posted by: Miklos, collector, hoarder, and wrecker at December 15, 2024 11:11 PM (xesY+)
Many of those poor countries, often former colonies, contracted with printers in Western countries to manufacture stamps (and currency) with bright colors and artwork, specifically for the collector market. It could be a significant source of income for them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2024 11:31 PM (8zz6B)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 15, 2024 11:29 PM (63Dwl)
Well I got yo Upper, Volta.
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 15, 2024 11:31 PM (SSBCb)
Kind of like here.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2024 11:03 PM (LkLld)
Since I weigh 210 lbs, I am actually 2.8 talents.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2024 11:31 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
FUN FACT
"Togo" is the name of an African country AND a WWII Japanese Admiral!
Posted by: Miklos, yer Fub Fact pal at December 15, 2024 11:32 PM (xesY+)
Posted by: SnailRacer at December 15, 2024 11:23 PM (X7Em0)
A Snailracer sighting! Thanks for stopping by. And for a unique misspelling of my nic - lol!!
Posted by: Doof at December 15, 2024 11:32 PM (RFPHU)
At Rome's latitude, an hour was about 45 minutes at the Winter solstice, and 75 minutes on the summer solstice. They knew it was variable and non-uniform. They didn't care.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 15, 2024 11:04 PM (w6EFb)
the original clocks were set up to show a variable hour depending on the season so that there would be twelve hours of sunlight and twelve hours of night, making them far more complicated than they needed to be, but driving a lot of thought into astrological movement and epicycles just by example.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2024 11:34 PM (D7oie)
https://tinyurl.com/2ruwj23n
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia)
You are SO off my Christmas Card list.
Posted by: Some Garbage Rat at December 15, 2024 11:31 PM (+VovS)
LOL (wincing in pain from abdominal incision).
Santa gave it to me in the 80s...
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 15, 2024 11:34 PM (SSBCb)
Posted by: Dr. T at December 15, 2024 11:28 PM (lHPJf)
Be careful with that "I'm with Doof" thing. Probably won't win you too many friends.
Posted by: Doof at December 15, 2024 11:34 PM (RFPHU)
Posted by: Miklos, yer Fub Fact pal at December 15, 2024 11:32 PM (xesY+)
Also a tire store in Calgary.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2024 11:35 PM (8zz6B)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
FUN FACT
"Togo" is the name of an African country AND a WWII Japanese Admiral!
Posted by: Miklos, yer Fub Fact pal at December 15, 2024 11:32 PM (xesY+)
AND a way of ordering food...
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 15, 2024 11:35 PM (SSBCb)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 15, 2024 11:01 PM (mH6SG)
And on that day we will begin to fight over who was agreeing with us for the wrong reason!
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2024 11:35 PM (D7oie)
heh
Soviet Life ( the glossy magazine in oversize to copy American Look magazine) was printed in Hungary on Finnish paper.
Posted by: Miklos liquidated the many tons of remaining stock in the 90s at December 15, 2024 11:36 PM (xesY+)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 15, 2024 11:01 PM (mH6SG)
And on that day we will begin to fight over who was agreeing with us for the wrong reason!
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2024 11:35 PM (D7oie)
9mm crossbows; has their time finally arrived?
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 15, 2024 11:37 PM (SSBCb)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
FUN FACT
"Togo" is the name of an African country AND a WWII Japanese Admiral!
Posted by: Miklos, yer Fub Fact pal at December 15, 2024 11:32 PM (xesY+)
I thought Adm. Togo was dead by then. He led the Japanese at the Battle of Tsushima against the Russian fleet in 1905.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 15, 2024 11:37 PM (VNX3d)
Posted by: Miklos liquidated the many tons of remaining stock in the 90s at December 15, 2024 11:36 PM (xesY+)
Were they living on Tula Time?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2024 11:39 PM (8zz6B)
Nimitz met him while in pre-war Japan, and specifically directed that his historic flagship Mikasa be preserved when occupation started. (think it was Nimitz)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2024 11:39 PM (1m82a)
Because school in its post one room schoolhouse form was set up as training to work in factories and the people running schools now don't realize it and just do it the way it has been done.
Posted by: azjaeger at December 15, 2024 11:40 PM (3/XaG)
Posted by: SFGoth at December 15, 2024 11:40 PM (KAi1n)
I thought Adm. Togo was dead by then. He led the Japanese at the Battle of Tsushima against the Russian fleet in 1905.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
I stand corrected.
Srsly
Posted by: Admiral Miklos Zinovy Rozhestvensky at December 15, 2024 11:40 PM (xesY+)
One of my favorite things about Trump is that he is constantly doing shit. If he ever sleeps it can't be for than a few minutes.
If anyone thinks the only thing going on right now is an argument over DST then you aren't paying attention. At all.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2024 11:40 PM (LkLld)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
This
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 15, 2024 11:40 PM (OTdqV)
Posted by: SFGoth at December 15, 2024 11:40 PM (KAi1n)
Dumb aliens. No such planet exists.
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 15, 2024 11:42 PM (SSBCb)
The Romans, and Greek Homos, and even the Babylonians were aware of the non-uniform motion of the apparent sun across the ecliptic. In some sense, they knew about the Equation of Time, but I don't think they ever applied it.
The history of this is fascinating.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 15, 2024 11:42 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Doof at December 15, 2024 11:34 PM (RFPHU)
Joke's on you; I already don't have many friends!
Ha-ha....sob.....
Posted by: Dr. T at December 15, 2024 11:42 PM (lHPJf)
Nimitz met him while in pre-war Japan, and specifically directed that his historic flagship Mikasa be preserved when occupation started. (think it was Nimitz)
Posted by: rhomboid
I admit error.
Once per year, and it's already December.
Posted by: the fault is not in the stars, but in Miklos at December 15, 2024 11:43 PM (xesY+)
Posted by: azjaeger at December 15, 2024 11:44 PM (3/XaG)
Posted by: SFGoth at December 15, 2024 11:40 PM (KAi1n)
I most definitely appreciate that reference!!
Posted by: Doof at December 15, 2024 11:45 PM (RFPHU)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2024 11:45 PM (1m82a)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley
Okay, but can me and Miss Dixie just sit outside while I smoke and you explain?
I have the feeling this might take a while.
Posted by: Miklos, with actual degree in Ancient and Medieval History (don't ask) at December 15, 2024 11:46 PM (xesY+)
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 15, 2024 11:46 PM (+3jTj)
The history of this is fascinating.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 15, 2024 11:42 PM (w6EFb)
We have to remember that time is not defined by the rotation of the Earth upon its axis, or the apparent motion of the Sun across the sky; rather that Time defines the rate at which those motions take place. They are just convenient indicators of the passage of time.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2024 11:46 PM (8zz6B)
The Romans, and Greek Homos, and even the Babylonians were aware of the non-uniform motion of the apparent sun across the ecliptic. In some sense, they knew about the Equation of Time, but I don't think they ever applied it.
The history of this is fascinating.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 15, 2024 11:42 PM (w6EFb)
There's a vid that shows the movement of the sun as viewed on Mercury; due to the planet's rotation, the sun appears to go backwards during past of the cycle.
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 15, 2024 11:47 PM (SSBCb)
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia)
Santa gave it to me when I was 7!
Posted by: David French at December 15, 2024 11:47 PM (rLzGk)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 15, 2024 11:48 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 15, 2024 11:49 PM (+3jTj)
Posted by: azjaeger at December 15, 2024 11:49 PM (3/XaG)
Meanwhile Russian, Belarussian, and North Korean diplomats were flown out of the country from the Khmeimim airbase.
"Your Wars Tonight"
Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2024 11:50 PM (1m82a)
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 15, 2024 11:46 PM (+3jTj)
That explains why Darleen, Marleen, and Charleen say they like my manly musk.
Posted by: Miklos, doing what he can with what he's got at December 15, 2024 11:51 PM (xesY+)
My Mom would literally speak over the top of me saying something, often changing the subject t whatever was in her head.
As an Adult, I called her on it on numerous occasions, and even though other family members would agree with what just happened, I was still the asshole for saying anything.
I suddenly realized, as an older adult, why my Father never really said anything at the dinner table growing up.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 15, 2024 11:52 PM (QAkQ3)
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 15, 2024 11:49 PM (+3jTj)
You know, I don't know if it would be smart to use tracers to shoot at a potentially hostile aircraft with unknown capabilities using tracers. If they the means to shoot back, those tracers might help them target their disintegrator ray. Oopsie!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2024 11:53 PM (8zz6B)
Posted by: azjaeger at December 15, 2024 11:49 PM (3/XaG)
I read that in an insistent John Belushi voice
Posted by: My Delta name is Miklos at December 15, 2024 11:53 PM (xesY+)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Forget the indicators, what is the significance?
Posted by: SFGoth at December 15, 2024 11:53 PM (KAi1n)
Posted by: Miklos, yer Fub Fact pal at December 15, 2024 11:32 PM (xesY+)
'Togo' is in a lot of restaurant names, too, more likely local ethnic ones.
Posted by: RickZ at December 15, 2024 11:53 PM (gKDq2)
Yamamoto suffered his "signature" wound (missing parts of fingers on one hand) at the Battle of Tsushima. Like Yamamoto Togo had studied abroad (UK) and spoke English.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2024 11:54 PM (1m82a)
The history of this too is very fascinating. While it was known since antiquity that the motion of the sun was not uniform (hence the "mean sun", averaging out the motion for time-keeping purposes), it was though the earth's rotation was uniform.
The earth's rotation was the most accurate clock we had up until the early 20th century.
Due to the increasing accuracy of astronomical obervations, it began to be suspected that the earth's rotation was not uniform. Thus what they dubbed "ephemeris time" was born. Let the equations of motion define your time scale.
By the early 20th century, think 1910s, it was confirmed the earth's rotation was variable.
Atomic clocks were soon invented and became the standard for uniform time. The current standard is TT, Terrestrial Time. Now, making all this Relativistic, well, that gets complex indeed.
Basically, Terrestrial Time is the proper time of an observer moving with, and rotating with, the earth.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 15, 2024 11:54 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: a dude in MI at December 15, 2024 11:54 PM (+I6Y/)
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 15, 2024 11:46 PM (+3jTj)
And yet a JUDGE is saying that Elon is not worth the salary his stockholders approved... because he knows better!
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 15, 2024 11:54 PM (QAkQ3)
"Your Wars Tonight"
Posted by: rhomboid
I read that with Ted Koppel hair
Posted by: Miklos was triggered at December 15, 2024 11:55 PM (xesY+)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bah!. humbug! at December 15, 2024 11:27 PM (Ad8y9)
Try being a Bears fan. 1985 is but a very distant memory.
Posted by: Someday I'll choose a nick and stick with it. Today is not that day! Dangerous Radical at December 15, 2024 11:57 PM (89Sog)
Posted by: rhomboid
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I read that 4 days before Assad was over run that Italy offered military assistance and he declined.
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 15, 2024 11:57 PM (+3jTj)
Posted by: PabloD at December 15, 2024 11:57 PM (NXK/x)
Posted by: a dude in MI at December 15, 2024 11:54 PM (+I6Y/)
Well, if you must leave it, you could at least blow it up.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2024 11:57 PM (8zz6B)
Stolen, I think from Private Eye or another British satirical mag back in the 80s.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2024 11:58 PM (1m82a)
Italy offering military assistance? That sounds wrong, or at least bizarre.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 16, 2024 12:00 AM (1m82a)
Posted by: SFGoth
---
You're young and have fun.
You age, you rot
Beware
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 16, 2024 12:00 AM (+3jTj)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2024 11:58 PM (1m82a)
Heh, rhomboid, your hash is the model number for a .50 cal Barrett sniper rifle.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2024 12:00 AM (8zz6B)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2024 11:46 PM (8zz6B)
well, the 24 hour thing was developed by the Babylonians who used a base 12 counting system, with 60 (5 x 12) as their Hundred and 360 (60 x 60) as their thousand. Most of the complications come from trying to make it more accurately reflect the real world.
Imagine a time system based on Radians instead
Posted by: Kindltot at December 16, 2024 12:01 AM (D7oie)
Posted by: Manos! The Hands of Fate at December 16, 2024 12:01 AM (F2xQR)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2024 11:46 PM (8zz6B)
Can I use that in one of my speeches when I run for Governor? Hic!
Posted by: Kumalla at December 16, 2024 12:02 AM (SaYr5)
Posted by: rhomboid
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Awl and awl pipelines. Italy had a deal going with Kadafi and Hillary screwed it. (she's still pissed at Hillary)
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 16, 2024 12:03 AM (+3jTj)
Posted by: Toad-0 at December 16, 2024 12:03 AM (cct0t)
Hmmm. You planning on getting one? I'm sure they're legal in AZ (not sure about the other place you live).
Posted by: rhomboid at December 16, 2024 12:03 AM (1m82a)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2024 11:46 PM (8zz6B)
well, the 24 hour thing was developed by the Babylonians who used a base 12 counting system, with 60 (5 x 12) as their Hundred and 360 (60 x 60) as their thousand. Most of the complications come from trying to make it more accurately reflect the real world.
Imagine a time system based on Radians instead
Posted by: Kindltot at December 16, 2024 12:01 AM (D7oie)
That'd be Pi (x2) in the sky, dude.
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 16, 2024 12:04 AM (SSBCb)
Posted by: rhomboid
Nope
Just me and some Old Crow.
If I steal, I will cite and give attribution.
Posted by: Reasonably honest Miklos at December 16, 2024 12:04 AM (xesY+)
Posted by: Kumalla at December 16, 2024 12:02 AM (SaYr5)
You want a Venn diagram of it?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2024 12:04 AM (8zz6B)
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 16, 2024 12:04 AM (SSBCb)
Diana is as happy as a clam. Her Mommy is home after a week away and she's on the bed with a big roll of rawhide.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 16, 2024 12:05 AM (eQnUv)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2024 11:46 PM (8zz6B)
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-opxZJvIZ0
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 16, 2024 12:06 AM (+3jTj)
Remember when China flew spy balloons over our military installations for months and the Biden administration said there was nothing they could do because shooting them down would be dangerous and then they finally shot one down off the South Carolina coast and all it did was go straight down?
Never mind. It's just a New Jersey thing.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 16, 2024 12:07 AM (LkLld)
Hmmm. You planning on getting one? I'm sure they're legal in AZ (not sure about the other place you live).
Posted by: rhomboid at December 16, 2024 12:03 AM (1m82a)
Not likely. More money than I can afford. I saw "m82a", and thought, "Golly, sure sounds like a .mil model for something!" And did a search, and the Barret popped up.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2024 12:07 AM (8zz6B)
Apparently the uproar over arrest of a female singer in Iran who did an online concert sans hijab was so great she was quickly released, according to her lawyer. Some saying this reflects a very spooked regime. They certainly have reason. And their currency is hitting all-time lows. With Entrumpenation just weeks away.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 16, 2024 12:07 AM (1m82a)
Posted by: Romeo13
She
Posted by: SFGoth at December 16, 2024 12:08 AM (KAi1n)
Posted by: Miklos wants answers at December 16, 2024 12:09 AM (xesY+)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 16, 2024 12:09 AM (1m82a)
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 16, 2024 12:06 AM (+3jTj)
Good tune!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2024 12:09 AM (8zz6B)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2024 12:04 AM (8zz6B)
Would it be okay if I paid you with a third-party, post-dated, out of state check? I'm having a bit of a cash flow problem with my campaign at the moment. Thanks!
Hic!
Posted by: Kumalla at December 16, 2024 12:09 AM (SaYr5)
--
Doesn't it take ~12 months for the earth to circle the sun?
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 16, 2024 12:10 AM (+3jTj)
Yes.
Posted by: Manos! The Hands of Fate at December 16, 2024 12:01 AM (F2xQR)
Guess what my ear-worm for the evening!
the Master will be most displeased...
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Needs theme music at December 16, 2024 12:11 AM (Ad8y9)
Posted by: Romeo13
She
Posted by: SFGoth
Must have a pretty cool Tinder profile
Posted by: Miklos swipes not at December 16, 2024 12:11 AM (xesY+)
Posted by: Steve Miller at December 16, 2024 12:11 AM (Aqu9a)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 16, 2024 12:11 AM (1m82a)
Posted by: Romeo13
She
Posted by: SFGoth at December 16, 2024 12:08 AM (KAi1n)
Judges believe they are god of their domain, and they're almost right.
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 16, 2024 12:11 AM (SSBCb)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 16, 2024 12:12 AM (LkLld)
Posted by: SnailRacer at December 15, 2024 11:23 PM (X7Em0)
A Snailracer sighting! Thanks for stopping by. And for a unique misspelling of my nic - lol!!
Posted by: Doof at December 15, 2024 11:32 PM (RFPHU)
That be the official Dutch spelling, my friend.
Posted by: SnailRacer at December 16, 2024 12:12 AM (X7Em0)
Posted by: David French at December 16, 2024 12:12 AM (rLzGk)
Posted by: JackStraw
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If they flew them over Chicago the sky would look like Dresden in WWII.
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 16, 2024 12:13 AM (+3jTj)
cool beans
Now do politics and economics and society and stuff
Posted by: Miklos inquires at December 16, 2024 12:13 AM (xesY+)
There was a Togos restaurant in my home town when I lived there decades ago. It was renowned for its submarine sandwiches. Some time later it was bought out by another Italian family and became Vangos. Those who track such things say the submarine sandwiches do not now live up to those of the past.
I wouldn't know, so I stay out of those spats.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 16, 2024 12:13 AM (1CG4q)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 16, 2024 12:11 AM (1m82a)
I got to shoot one once. Trippy!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2024 12:13 AM (8zz6B)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 16, 2024 12:14 AM (1m82a)
Time keeps on slipping into the future.
Posted by: Steve Miller
Fly like an eagle.
Quack like a duck.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 16, 2024 12:15 AM (1CG4q)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 16, 2024 12:14 AM (1m82a)
Trump's a poopyhead Hitler. Musk supports him, so must also be a poopyhead Hitler?
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 16, 2024 12:16 AM (SSBCb)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars
Quite difficult to get a decent pair of spats these days.
Don't even ask about getting a top hat reblocked.
Posted by: Stylish Miklos at December 16, 2024 12:16 AM (xesY+)
Time keeps on slipping into the future.
Posted by: Steve Miller
Fly like an eagle.
Quack like a duck.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 16, 2024 12:15 AM (1CG4q)
On a June bug
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 16, 2024 12:17 AM (SSBCb)
Posted by: soon to be horizontal Miklos at December 16, 2024 12:18 AM (xesY+)
The definition of the SI second history is interesting. I'd get this botched without reading up on it all again, it's complex. But basically, the SI second is about the length of a mean solar second as determined by the earth's mean rotation of about the mid-19th century.
The ephemeris second was defined in terms of the mean tropical year, rather than mean solar day, but it all came back to that.
The current definition is just very close, in terms of cycles of a certain wavelenght of the cesium atom radiation, to that original ephemeris second.
By 1972, when the UTC scheme was put into place, the earth's rotation had slowed enough that there was about 3 millisecond difference. That's how leap-seconds got built into the system.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 16, 2024 12:18 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Stylish Miklos at December 16, 2024 12:16 AM (xesY+)
You have to be careful reboring them. Easy to take too deep a cut and go into the water jacket.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2024 12:19 AM (8zz6B)
With permanent Daylight Time, the sun doesn't come up until 8:45 in midwinter, so the kids go to school in darkness.
And while in school they experience intellectual darkness.
So what's the big deal?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 16, 2024 12:19 AM (1CG4q)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 16, 2024 12:19 AM (1m82a)
That's how leap-seconds got built into the system.
With nine lords deciding just when those leap seconds can cut in line...
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 16, 2024 12:20 AM (1CG4q)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 16, 2024 12:21 AM (1m82a)
Posted by: Romeo13
She
Posted by: SFGoth at December 16, 2024 12:08 AM (KAi1n)
Judges believe they are god of their domain, and they're almost right.
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 16, 2024 12:11 AM (SSBCb)
They also know how much MaraLargo is worth.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 16, 2024 12:21 AM (D6PGr)
The definition of the SI second history is interesting. I'd get this botched without reading up on it all again, it's complex. But basically, the SI second is about the length of a mean solar second as determined by the earth's mean rotation of about the mid-19th century.
The ephemeris second was defined in terms of the mean tropical year, rather than mean solar day, but it all came back to that.
The current definition is just very close, in terms of cycles of a certain wavelenght of the cesium atom radiation, to that original ephemeris second.
By 1972, when the UTC scheme was put into place, the earth's rotation had slowed enough that there was about 3 millisecond difference. That's how leap-seconds got built into the system.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 16, 2024 12:18 AM (w6EFb)
Except today based on the number of oscillation of cesium atoms at some excitation state and temp. Something like that.
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 16, 2024 12:21 AM (SSBCb)
Read up on the Delaware Court of Chancery. If you think you are baffled now, wait until you read about the so called "business friendly" state of Joe Biden.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 16, 2024 12:21 AM (LkLld)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 16, 2024 12:18 AM (w6EFb)
I expect the length of the Earth's day must vary slightly with the tides, and movement of large air masses, and with plate tectonics. Conservation of angular momentum being the reason.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2024 12:22 AM (8zz6B)
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 16, 2024 12:10 AM (+3jTj)
The day, the year are not actual numbers, they are an imposition of how to break large numbers into smaller blocks, by people who like the number 12.
A year is roughly 365-1/4 days long, and it is also roughly 13 lunar cycles long. A month depends on what system you use, the Romans originally used a ten month system which was modified to 12 to be in tune with Babylonian astronomy which the Greeks had adopted. These cannot be divided easily into 12, so there have to be some compensation made.
Time in many ways is not an objective element of the universe, but is instead a phenomenonolgical understanding of the universe that we can detect.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 16, 2024 12:23 AM (D7oie)
In 1972, the mean solar day was about 86,400.003 seconds long. Since then, the earth has sped up a bit. Recently, we had about the shortest mean solar day on record, and at one time, the rolling average was 86,399.999 s. :-)
If this keeps up, we'll need a negative leap second, which would likely crash every computer in the world, and break the internet.
This is thought to be just temporary, and it seems so. But we won't need another leap second for a while.
And the IAU and all the time keeping standard bodies have agreed to elilminate leap seconds by 2035. I imagine the scheme they'll come up with will be even worse, because they have to get agreement with all sorts of different factions.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 16, 2024 12:23 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 16, 2024 12:19 AM (1m82a)
I'd aim for something bigger than their nuts
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 16, 2024 12:23 AM (SSBCb)
Quite difficult to get a decent pair of spats these days.
Don't even ask about getting a top hat reblocked.
Posted by: Stylish Miklos
It's a shame that puttees did not fan out into the wider fashion streams..
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 16, 2024 12:23 AM (1CG4q)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 16, 2024 12:23 AM (1m82a)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 16, 2024 12:14 AM (1m82a)
I think it was a shareholder suit of a group who disagreed.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 16, 2024 12:24 AM (D6PGr)
Yes, indeed. This is all measured to amazing precision now. See the IERS site for all this in it's glory.
You can break the earth's rotational variation into seasonal, periodic components, and then a random, unpredictable one, along with a long term secular deceleration term.
The odd big earthguake, shifting the mass distribution around, is part of that random component.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 16, 2024 12:25 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 16, 2024 12:19 AM (1m82a)
Well, the Barret m82 is designated as an "anti-materiel" weapon. So it makes military sense. And it makes a fine extreme-range sniper rifle, too. A handgun so powerful that one is scared to fire it seems...sub-optimal.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2024 12:26 AM (8zz6B)
I imagine the scheme they'll come up with will be even worse, because they have to get agreement with all sorts of different factions.
Those holding out for Pluto to be returned to the roll of planets with surely strike for that to be part of the reconciliation plan.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 16, 2024 12:26 AM (1CG4q)
Game room. Gun room. Other gun room. Other other gun room. Gun and wine room. Other other other gun room.
That's the house from "Tremors," isn't it?
Posted by: mikeski at December 16, 2024 12:26 AM (DgGvY)
Posted by: French Revolution II, Timekeeping Boogaloo at December 16, 2024 12:27 AM (Aqu9a)
I think there's some of it going on, but also baffled and disappointed that shareholder suits haven't proliferated against companies flushing shareholder value down the "green" toilet. Talk about a brazen violation of fiduciary responsibility.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 16, 2024 12:27 AM (1m82a)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 16, 2024 12:28 AM (1CG4q)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 16, 2024 12:28 AM (1m82a)
Make "pi" exactly equal to 3!
-- Kansas Board of Education
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 16, 2024 12:28 AM (1CG4q)
Just convert from decimal to base Pi...
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 16, 2024 12:31 AM (SSBCb)
Delaware has a completely unique judicial system for business. It often works for business but the same system can be used against those businesses and people they want to punish.
Again, read up on the Court of Chancery in Delaware. It's a whole different thing.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 16, 2024 12:32 AM (LkLld)
Here's a graph of the EOD (excess length of day) from about 1960 until present:
https://tinyurl.com/y9xrbm5l
The gray line there, jumping all around is the daily value, while the green curve is the tropical year rolling average. The green curve smooths out the seasonal terms.
In time keeping terms, the gray line corresponds to UT1, while the green would be UT2.
1960 was when the atomic clocks first came into use and then could be measured with this sort of precision. You can go back further, thanks to the ephemeris time calculations, and various extrapolation formula, but it won't be as accurate as this.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 16, 2024 12:35 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 16, 2024 12:32 AM (LkLld)
How many divisions does the Delaware Court of Chancery control?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2024 12:36 AM (8zz6B)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 16, 2024 12:36 AM (LkLld)
President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris on Sunday thanked deep-pocketed Democratic donors who raised record sums in last month's election loss to President-elect Donald Trump and urged them not to lose hope and to remain politically engaged.
Biden said that he intended to remain engaged with party politics once he leaves office on Jan. 20. He also predicted that he expected Harris would remain a central character in the party's future.
“You’re not going anywhere kid. We aren’t letting you,” Biden said to Harris.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 16, 2024 12:37 AM (63Dwl)
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 16, 2024 12:38 AM (SSBCb)
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 16, 2024 12:38 AM (SSBCb)
Nite, Jim! Get well, and get out of there ASAP!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2024 12:39 AM (8zz6B)
Make "pi" exactly equal to 3!
-- Kansas Board of Education
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 16, 2024 12:28 AM (1CG4q)
That's irrational!
Posted by: 22/7 at December 16, 2024 12:40 AM (Aqu9a)
The main contributor to that seasonal variation in the earth's rotation is the Moon and Sun's tidal field. When they are aligned, you get maxium tidal field, and when they are anti-aligned you get minimum tidal field.
This causes a little oscillating torque. The periods don't line up with the tropical year, but with that cycle of sun and moon total tidal field.
That's the main driver of the seasonal variation.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 16, 2024 12:43 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Way,Way Downriver
He probably has the whole basement painted with Flex Seal. Totally safe.
If it rains too much, it becomes a houseboat.
Posted by: mikeski at December 16, 2024 12:44 AM (DgGvY)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2024 12:46 AM (8zz6B)
Posted by: rhomboid
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I passed up a chance to fire a S&w .500 magnum. 'Passed up' isn't quited right. I, uh...demurred.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2024 12:47 AM (XeU6L)
-- Kansas Board of Education
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)
Just convert from decimal to base Pi...
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia)
A few days ago, the xkcd comic pointed out that "pi" miles per hour is approximately "e" knots.
It's only off by 0.5%. knot/mph = 1.1508, pi/e = 1.1557.
Posted by: foul Mathematics at December 16, 2024 12:50 AM (DgGvY)
Once you know what to expect, it ain't so bad. Sort of.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 16, 2024 12:59 AM (mH6SG)
Posted by: Supernatural gal in LaLouisiana just having La fun(; mtcmtmail= at December 16, 2024 01:00 AM (RrfDO)
How can we help you?
Posted by: The Deep State at December 16, 2024 01:03 AM (mH6SG)
Here's timeanddate, with a longer term graph of the EOD variation from 1830 - 2020:
https://tinyurl.com/yah2me49
Before atomic clocks, that was based on ephemeris time astronomical observations. Before the early 1800s, they just weren't accurate enough for this purpose.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 16, 2024 01:06 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: RickZ at December 16, 2024 01:08 AM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Bulg at December 15, 2024 10:21 PM (v6JzV)
Mr. TiFW told me that I can keep the Christmas tree up for as long as I want to this year 😊❤
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Plucky Comic Relief, AoS Ladies Brigade - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at December 16, 2024 01:09 AM (SRRAx)
On the Daylight savings thing - I have never seen the scientific evidence to justify the use of it. Yes, the sunrise and setting times are different in the seasons as one changes latitude northward (or southward in the other hemisphere) but I am not sure why going to school when its dark for a few months is anything other than a minor annoyance, if that. I do note a commenter above that points out that late in the day activities (spring baseball or football) would have to start and end earlier. Again, perhaps, an inconvenience - but not a justification to change an entire country's sleeping habits leading to temporary sleep deprived health and public safety issues. On MisHum's opinion of "don't we have more important things to do?" I would point out that DS seems to be, to me, the ultimate in government mandated, unsupportable top-down management that wastes time and causes actual upheaval in people's lives. (to be continued: 1 of 2)
Posted by: Publius Redux at December 16, 2024 01:14 AM (j1V8a)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth
So you won't have to put it up again next year?
Posted by: mikeski at December 16, 2024 01:17 AM (DgGvY)
Posted by: a dude in MI at December 16, 2024 01:18 AM (+I6Y/)
Posted by: Supernatural gal in LaLouisiana just having La fun(; mtcmtmail= at December 16, 2024 01:21 AM (RrfDO)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 16, 2024 01:26 AM (lhenN)
Posted by: Publius Redux at December 16, 2024 01:26 AM (j1V8a)
Posted by: Supernatural gal in LaLouisiana just having La fun(; mtcmtmail= at December 16, 2024 01:27 AM (RrfDO)
Posted by: Tommy Shanks at December 16, 2024 01:27 AM (qM58/)
Remember the famous Art Bell call where the guy claimed to be in a little plane flying over Area 51?
I think they decided that was probably a well done hoax. Audio analysis picked up some sounds that were not likely to be heard in a real airplane or something like that.
You can look that up online. It was a hoot.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 16, 2024 01:28 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 16, 2024 01:29 AM (VwHCD)
We humans and just about every species on this planet is diurnal. Our internal cycles are synced with the rising and setting of the sun.
Define time, and your wake and sleep periods too far out of sync with the sun, and you've got problems.
Standard time is the closest to local solar time.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 16, 2024 01:30 AM (w6EFb)
I grew around Navy bases, plural, the Norfolk, VA area. Some Air Force and Marines as well. Only Army was out in Virginia Beach, Fort Story. Anyway, I've never seen the government try to pull off anything like what's going on without providing a 'just a drill' news bit, and I saw/heard lots of drills. (The 'heard' was UDT' Hell Week at Little Creek; I could hear the explosions miles away.)
To me, something more's going on. I'm betting on some sort of Intel for a terror attack when Trump gets inaugurated. These are drills but they aren't saying that. I guess they figure letting this story get lots of coverage is a warning to whomever that we know what they're up to.
Or our gov't is practicing using lethal drones for some crowd control op like in some dystopian sci-fi novel: "Citizens! Stay Calm! . . . ' {ZAAAP} Guess you didn't stay calm and eat your bugs.
Other than that, I got nothin'.
Posted by: RickZ at December 16, 2024 01:34 AM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Supernatural gal in LaLouisiana just having La fun(; mtcmtmail= at December 16, 2024 01:35 AM (RrfDO)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 16, 2024 01:35 AM (Sgq8y)
Always be Trumpin!
Posted by: DaveA at December 16, 2024 01:37 AM (FhXTo)
Anyway I don't claim to know that much..but common sense says whatever this is it ain't good for us regular Americans..
Posted by: Supernatural gal in LaLouisiana just having La fun(; mtcmtmail= at December 16, 2024 01:42 AM (RrfDO)
They tells ya ta pay attention to the time, but don't watch the clock.. Huh?
Usually: the weekend night shift got screwed out of an hour's pay in Spring; production stopped for an hour in Autumn unless mgmt approved an hour of OT.
Posted by: JQ at December 16, 2024 01:43 AM (YoCnN)
Was going to put little ornaments on it, but decided not to tempt Cat. He's pretty mellow at middle-age, and has paid no attention at all to the tree so far.
For that matter, neither has hubby. Why jinx it? LOL!
Posted by: JQ at December 16, 2024 01:50 AM (YoCnN)
Posted by: Supernatural gal in LaLouisiana just having La fun(; mtcmtmail= at December 16, 2024 01:51 AM (RrfDO)
Considering the bi-dumb/oblahblah people, wouldn't be AT ALL surprised if it's a matter of treas0n against us...
Posted by: JQ at December 16, 2024 01:56 AM (YoCnN)
Posted by: Supernatural gal in LaLouisiana just having La fun(; mtcmtmail= at December 16, 2024 01:56 AM (RrfDO)
Posted by: JQ at December 16, 2024 02:00 AM (YoCnN)
Posted by: Supernatural gal in LaLouisiana just having La fun(; mtcmtmail= at December 16, 2024 02:02 AM (RrfDO)
Posted by: Case at December 16, 2024 02:03 AM (IFQdH)
Was going to put little ornaments on it, but decided not to tempt Cat. He's pretty mellow at middle-age, and has paid no attention at all to the tree so far.
For that matter, neither has hubby. Why jinx it? LOL!
Posted by: JQ at December 16, 2024 01:50 AM (YoCnN)
I think there is a tree in every room here. It started the first year we were here because of the renovations. We couldn't fit the main tree where it needed to go, so we did a bunch of smaller trees scattered throughout. It looked kinda nice, so we kept doing it, along with the main tree.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 16, 2024 02:03 AM (VwHCD)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 16, 2024 02:03 AM (I0KSO)
Posted by: Case at December 16, 2024 02:03 AM (IFQdH)
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FIFY
Spot the difference.
https://youtu.be/xhYJS80MgYA
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 16, 2024 02:06 AM (I0KSO)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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Oh, that's cool! Beauty throughout the house!
I used to think about doing similar-- heaven knows I have enough ornaments & stuff to do it-- but figured it was just crazy-thinking on my part. LOL!
Posted by: JQ at December 16, 2024 02:06 AM (YoCnN)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
Word
Posted by: SFGoth at December 16, 2024 02:09 AM (KAi1n)
I used to think about doing similar-- heaven knows I have enough ornaments & stuff to do it-- but figured it was just crazy-thinking on my part. LOL!
Posted by: JQ at December 16, 2024 02:06 AM (YoCnN)
Well thats another reason it started. We used to have 2 trees in the old house. The main tree, and a really nice smaller tree in the dining room. After my mom died I ended up with a lot of her smaller trees, so we had all these frigging trees and a shit ton of her ornaments as well as a shit ton of our own. we got into this house on the 8th of december that year, and there was not enough time or room to do the full tree yet, so we looked at the pile of ornaments and trees and said hmmm, got an idea. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 16, 2024 02:15 AM (VwHCD)
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Gotta work with what ya got!
If this house wasn't so crowded (and lousy floor-plan) I'd put up more trees. As it is, there's not really enough space to put up the full-size tree, so I settled for the little one from Dad's house. Which, actually, was "my" tree from the place I lived before marrying hubby...
Mom & Dad would get a 7 or 8 foot real tree every year, until Mom passed. Dad didn't bother anymore afterward.
Posted by: JQ at December 16, 2024 02:24 AM (YoCnN)
If this house wasn't so crowded (and lousy floor-plan) I'd put up more trees. As it is, there's not really enough space to put up the full-size tree, so I settled for the little one from Dad's house. Which, actually, was "my" tree from the place I lived before marrying hubby...
Mom & Dad would get a 7 or 8 foot real tree every year, until Mom passed. Dad didn't bother anymore afterward.
Posted by: JQ at December 16, 2024 02:24 AM (YoCnN)
Same here, after my mom died my father just stopped decorating. My brother summed it up. I asked "why doesn't dad decorate anymore? He said "because he's a fucking pod" lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 16, 2024 02:29 AM (VwHCD)
That said, this needs investigating. China not only makes spy balloons; China makes drones that put on fantastic aerial displays (dragons, snakes) using hundreds of coordinated drones.
Posted by: JM in illinois, behold the Manchurian President at December 16, 2024 02:31 AM (8acs5)
I think Dad was very sad, all those holidays after she was gone. He'd travel, go visit friends and pretty much not be home at Thanksgiving and Christmas after Mom died.
It was sad, that he rarely spent holidays even with us kids, although we invited him over *many* times. We had a few restaurant "holiday" meals, but he just seemed to be done with it (and us, maybe for a while) I dunno.......
But he's gone now, too, and so it goes.
Posted by: JQ at December 16, 2024 02:37 AM (YoCnN)
If this is "it"-- then I'll likely need to place him into memory care. So much for our retirement funds...
Posted by: JQ at December 16, 2024 02:45 AM (YoCnN)
I think Dad was very sad, all those holidays after she was gone. He'd travel, go visit friends and pretty much not be home at Thanksgiving and Christmas after Mom died.
It was sad, that he rarely spent holidays even with us kids, although we invited him over *many* times. We had a few restaurant "holiday" meals, but he just seemed to be done with it (and us, maybe for a while) I dunno.......
But he's gone now, too, and so it goes.
Posted by: JQ at December 16, 2024 02:37 AM (YoCnN)
My father would say christmas was you mom's thing, and he just gave away the decorations. He still has things I need to get from him. On the upside he still all in on the holidays, he just doesn't give a shit about decorations. I don't know, when they moved to their new house my father also started a long series of renovations like I ended up doing. He did one project at a time so it didn't mess with mom's ability to decorate. they were only there 3 years and the paint was barely dry on a new addition when mom ended up with cancer. I think that took the wind out of his sails.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 16, 2024 02:46 AM (VwHCD)
Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2024 02:46 AM (fwDg9)
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Oh, yeah. Your dad, like my dad, obviously loved his wife. Life was Too Different after losing her after so many decades together.
Posted by: JQ at December 16, 2024 02:53 AM (YoCnN)
Mom gave us kids a bunch of stuff years ago-- our "annual ornaments" from when we were little! It was a thing, that we each got a special ornament each year, and Mom put a little tag with the year on them. We each got to hang "our" ornament on the tree every year. Fun!
Posted by: JQ at December 16, 2024 02:57 AM (YoCnN)
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 16, 2024 03:12 AM (SSBCb)
He's right; a day in which bureaucracy aligned with dems in power and more than. A handful of govt agencies (including g our military heads) with hundreds of assets on the ground engaged in a false flag event to demonize Americans exercising their free speech rights in order to kowtow all Americans into accepting a rigged election, with the plan to attack immediate enemy Donald Trump and use those arrested as examples.
A day of infamy indeed, far surpassing any external enemy attack.
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 16, 2024 03:21 AM (SSBCb)
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 16, 2024 03:23 AM (SaYr5)
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 16, 2024 03:27 AM (SSBCb)
Bers, I hope that you had a blast last night!! Christmas can be so bittersweet now. I don't decorate as I used to, but by the time the holiday rolls around the house is looking pretty good. In my case I am really lucky that there are now grandkids, a whole new reason to make people happy. I can't remember a best Christmas ever when I was growing up, but I do remember the excitement and anticipation and overall feeling of goodness in the world.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 16, 2024 03:29 AM (Sgq8y)
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 16, 2024 03:31 AM (SSBCb)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 16, 2024 03:32 AM (Sgq8y)
Best Christmas Ever, was the year Big Bro & I both got bikes! 5-speeds! Mine had gear-shift on the handle, so cooool!
It was also the year we found out The Truth About Santa Claus. Because Dad has assembled our bikes at a neighbor's garage, and their kids (our bff's) saw them & told us about it.
Kinda bummer... but... BIKES!!!!
Posted by: JQ at December 16, 2024 03:34 AM (YoCnN)
Posted by: JQ at December 16, 2024 03:35 AM (YoCnN)
Posted by: JQ at December 16, 2024 03:37 AM (YoCnN)
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 16, 2024 03:38 AM (SSBCb)
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 16, 2024 03:38 AM (SSBCb)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 16, 2024 03:39 AM (Sgq8y)
1990. The German Alps. My sister was stationed in Germany at the same time I was stationed in the UK. So, I met her at Ramstein and off we went to the Alps. She had a friend down there who worked at some NATO school. It was amazing. The Alps are beautiful of course. The highlight was Christmas Eve. My sister's friend invited us over to his place so his wife could cook a Christmas meal. She was Jewish, he was Catholic, so the decorations combined both faiths and the food was fantastic! A Hanukah-Christmas feast in the Alps. Not sure that will ever be topped!
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at December 16, 2024 03:41 AM (sAmhv)
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 16, 2024 03:27 AM (SSBCb)
I thought Trump did invite Xi.
Posted by: RickZ at December 16, 2024 03:42 AM (gKDq2)
Don't give money away, just start spending it, especially if his condition remains poor. Improvements to your home that aid accessibility will not be penalized, so now is a great time to redo the bathroom with a large handicap accessible shower, for instance, that would also benefit you when the time comes.
Happy belated birthday, Bers!
I left my trees up for years at a time, never got tired of it, especially the lights at night. We're in an rv and have rented our place out for a year, so no trees or any decor this year. Figured it was crowded enough with 4 cats and the two of us!
Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at December 16, 2024 03:43 AM (Vvh2V)
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 16, 2024 03:27 AM (SSBCb)
I thought Trump did invite Xi.
Posted by: RickZ at December 16, 2024 03:42 AM (gKDq2)
Indeed he did. China gonna attack Taiwan if Xi's in DC? Probably not.
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 16, 2024 03:44 AM (SSBCb)
So, a very memorable Christmas.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at December 16, 2024 03:47 AM (sAmhv)
Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2024 03:51 AM (fwDg9)
Let us not forget that a US Senator was part owner of the company that made those Chinese weather balloons. Kelley, from AZ. Married to Gabbie Giffords, maybe? Not sure about that part, but he was definitely a partner with the Chinese commies in that company. That's why no one seemed to care.
I do think some of the "drones" are commercial aircraft raft stacked up waiting to land, but that would not cause AFBs to takeover and shut down airspace. There is absolutely something going on.
And to whoever upthread said no one watched the video he posted about the guy who was shooting at them with tracers. I did watch it, just couldn't comment.
Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at December 16, 2024 03:51 AM (Vvh2V)
It hasn't come out *yet* what those drones are or where they're from?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 16, 2024 03:57 AM (omVj0)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 16, 2024
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Good morning,Debby, if you are still here. Your last sentence encapsulates what I and a lot of people remember best about Christmases past.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 16, 2024 03:59 AM (omVj0)
Posted by: m at December 16, 2024 04:00 AM (VnUSN)
see if it can survive a twenty five foot drop, just so she can be a youtube sensation. My apple
ipad is now destroyed and she has 83 views.
I know this is totally off topic but I had to
share it with someone!
Posted by: Learn More Here at December 16, 2024 04:54 AM (xbPC1)
Posted by: Eternity Matters at December 16, 2024 09:20 AM (qISOO)
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