Daily Tech News 13 December 2024

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Intel's second-generation "Battlemage" graphics cards are here and... They're actually pretty damn good. (Hot Hardware)

They're not perfect: Intel's drivers still hiccupped on a couple of games, resulting in slower than expected performance and some visual artifacts.

But the new B580 routinely outruns Nvidia and AMD cards costing 50% more. And it leaves Intel's previous generation A770 card in the dust on most tests, while using about half as much power.

And it delivers solid ray-tracing and AI performance. And it has 12GB of VRAM instead of the 8GB found on competitors like Nvidia's 4060 and AMD's 7600.

And it's cheaper at $249.

All in all, a good card at a good price, only let down by some minor driver issues. But the driver software has improved dramatically since the first generation of cards was launched, so those problems are likely to be fixed too.

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Microsoft's Recall is back, and yes, it still takes screenshots of your sensitive information. (Tom's Hardware)

You can tell it not to. It does it anyway.
Are LLMs capable of non-verbal reasoning? (Ars Technica)

As at least a dozen commenters point out, LLMs aren't capable of reasoning at all.
New Zealand has scrapped all government investment in basic social science research. (Science)

The government has said if you can't use it to build things or blow them up, they're not interested and they're not giving you money.
In Canada, euthanasia now accounts for 5% of all deaths. (BBC)

Euthanasia is only available for people who are terminally ill, or chronically ill, or mentally ill, or generally inconvenient.

Disclaimer: Cal 877-DIE-NOW.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:00 AM

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1 G'Day everyone

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2024 04:01 AM (fwDg9)

2 TGIF

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2024 04:01 AM (fwDg9)

3 ZPG became NPG while no one was looking.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 13, 2024 04:03 AM (y/ZMQ)

4 39 days until the inauguration

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2024 04:05 AM (fwDg9)

5 Well, not dead yet. Woke up, not breathing. Air wanted out not in. Finally got breathing again, hit call button...5 min+ to get answer. That close to being reunited with my love.

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2024 04:08 AM (SSBCb)

6 Continuing prayers, jim!

Healthscare, indeed

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2024 04:09 AM (YoCnN)

7 Evening and morning to all the early risers and late toilers across the vast sprawling AosHQ Empire! 'Tis Freya's Day, the consummation devoutly to be wished! And for some of us, only one more week until the Christmas break, too.

My cough has finally subsided. Last night was the first since Sunday where I haven't awakened to cough or sneeze.

How's the world been while I was busy blowing my nose and mainlining Tussin DM?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2024 04:10 AM (omVj0)

8 Automatic theorem solving has been a field of study for decades. Second order logic has been around longer. LLMs chuck all that right out the window and just try to smush together something that at least looks like a proof if you don't look too closely. It's more like machine vision soullessly spitting out a number that quantifies how much like a 6 that picture of a squiggle you fed it is. How much like a proof does this string of symbols look like? Forget logic, just tilt your head and squint. Is that Truthy enough? You can huck a many processors at it as you like and make it a complicated as you can, but it's not Artificial Intelligence. It's Counterfeit Intelligence.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 13, 2024 04:10 AM (y/ZMQ)

9 Good luck, Jim. Stay strong. Five minutes' wait for a nurse? Unconscionable.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2024 04:11 AM (omVj0)

10 Ugh, I need to sleep.. but all keyed up...

It aint easy

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2024 04:11 AM (YoCnN)

11 Morning, JQ. I didn't see the ONT; what's got you keyed up?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2024 04:12 AM (omVj0)

12 Hey, Wolfus!

Glad the cold is subsiding.

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2024 04:12 AM (YoCnN)

13 Good morning all. It's a pleasure to see all the morning peoples.

Pixy, Vic is missing from absent friends and the question, Why? is being asked and not answered. Some are saying no one remembers how to do the left column. There are many different thoughts on the subject.

Can you/will you enlighten us?

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024 04:13 AM (ZAwHo)

14 Automated Flim-flam

Churn out a string of bullshit that at least sounds convincing. Sure it'll collapse under scrutiny, but hopefully you'll gull the rube who needs gulling anyway.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 13, 2024 04:13 AM (y/ZMQ)

15 what's got you keyed up?
Posted by: Wolfus

Hubby should be discharged tomorrow. He was still pretty loopy today. I don't know what to expect, if he's sent "home" and not 100% sure he will be.

It would probably be better if he goes to rehab instead, but since his condition is "terminal" that may not be possible?

He's still so spacey, I hope I'm able to manage...

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2024 04:15 AM (YoCnN)

16 The people who think AI is "intelligent" are the same ones who see meat-based processors running the same exact algorithm and being impressed by it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 13, 2024 04:16 AM (y/ZMQ)

17 "tomorrow" = Friday

It's still Thursday night here in my mind...

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2024 04:18 AM (YoCnN)

18 Hey, Wolfus!

Glad the cold is subsiding.
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2024

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The sneezing is long gone, and the coughing, as I said, has not bothered me since last night. And even then it was occasional and minor. I'm skipping exercise until Sunday, and I may wait until tomorrow to celebrate with a pipe.

Tomorrow, too, I have little in the way of errands. Though I know Linda will want to visit the Red, White, and Blue Thrift Store again.

Yesterday I bought a bottle of wine as a retirement gift for the guy who hired me at my previous job. Being sick, I couldn't make his retirement party, and I may not see him next week, so I thought, "Take care of this now."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2024 04:19 AM (omVj0)

19 9 Good luck, Jim. Stay strong. Five minutes' wait for a nurse? Unconscionable.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2024 04:11 AM (omVj0)

I'm in recovery wing, not the ICU wing, so they weren't expecting this. They're going to hook me up w 24hr heart and O2 monitor. So they can react more quickly. I guess an O2 canula in the nose doesn't help when you're not breathing. LOL.

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2024 04:19 AM (SSBCb)

20 Good morning, good people, from the Frigidacks yet again. You'd think it was winter, or something.

Once more, may all effort of yours today be rewarded with maximum benefit to you, and corresponding anguish for the leftwits among us.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at December 13, 2024 04:19 AM (hKoQL)

21 10 Ugh, I need to sleep.. but all keyed up...

It aint easy
Posted by: JQ
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I fell asleep during ONT for 30 and hit the sack only to have no luck.
So, glad to see you this morning and be with the morning folks.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024 04:20 AM (ZAwHo)

22 Yesterday I bought a bottle of wine as a retirement gift for the guy who hired me at my previous job.
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Very thoughtful of you, Wolfus.

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2024 04:20 AM (YoCnN)

23 Hubby should be discharged tomorrow. He was still pretty loopy today. I don't know what to expect, if he's sent "home" and not 100% sure he will be.

It would probably be better if he goes to rehab instead, but since his condition is "terminal" that may not be possible?

He's still so spacey, I hope I'm able to manage...
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2024

***
How long has he been in the hospital?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2024 04:20 AM (omVj0)

24 Sorry JQ. prayers.

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2024 04:21 AM (SSBCb)

25 He's still so spacey, I hope I'm able to manage...
Posted by: JQ
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Sounds like you qualify for some in home assistance. Maybe just visits but they help.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024 04:22 AM (ZAwHo)

26 Yesterday I bought a bottle of wine as a retirement gift for the guy who hired me at my previous job.
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*
Very thoughtful of you, Wolfus.
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2024

***
He took a chance on me back in 2002, and he was great to work for and with. In the first week, I remember him telling me, "Your first job will be to hire your assistant." Something I'd *never* done in all my working life. And in the first week he told somebody when I was present, "Wolfus and I have to learn how to run the department together."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2024 04:23 AM (omVj0)

27 Jim if you keep AoSHq up type help and someone here could call nurse station. Might be faster

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2024 04:24 AM (fwDg9)

28 27 Jim if you keep AoSHq up type help and someone here could call nurse station. Might be faster
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2024 04:24 AM (fwDg9)

Hah! Just maybe.

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2024 04:25 AM (SSBCb)

29 He's still so spacey, I hope I'm able to manage...
Posted by: JQ

What about hospice care?

Posted by: Tuna at December 13, 2024 04:25 AM (oaGWv)

30 I guess an LLM based theorem solver isn't entirely useless. It can generate lines of attack no one would have ever guessed at, and they can go from there. Kind of like using it for a medical diagnosis maybe. But taking what it spits out as unassailable fact is just silly.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 13, 2024 04:26 AM (y/ZMQ)

31 Jim if you keep AoSHq up type help and someone here could call nurse station. Might be faster
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2024 04:24 AM (fwDg9)

"Why the hell did three hundred people just call to shout 'NOOD' at me and then hang up?"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 13, 2024 04:27 AM (y/ZMQ)

32 How long has he been in the hospital?
Posted by: Wolfus
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Since Tuesday.

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Sorry JQ. prayers.
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Thanks.

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He's been "terminal" for 4 years... "End Stage Liver Disease" "Cirrhosis" "Decompensated"...

But he had an episode Tuesday, "hepatic encephalopathy" and got weak and demented. Fell. Pooped himself... oh, gawd what a mess. Glad he was out of the way so I could clean...

Last week-- he was able to dress himself, toilet himself, bathe himself, go to kitchen for bev & snacks.. until Tuesday. Boom!

I understand that it can be *this way*

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2024 04:28 AM (YoCnN)

33 I'm in recovery wing, not the ICU wing, so they weren't expecting this. They're going to hook me up w 24hr heart and O2 monitor. So they can react more quickly. I guess an O2 canula in the nose doesn't help when you're not breathing. LOL.
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia)

Gosh Jim. You've really been through it haven't you? Prayers that the rest of your recovery is eventless.

Posted by: Tuna at December 13, 2024 04:29 AM (oaGWv)

34 16 The people who think AI is "intelligent" are the same ones who see meat-based processors running the same exact algorithm and being impressed by it.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
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AI is on it's way but at the moment it's over sold just like computers were when they were becoming popular. None of them performed up to the advertising. However, Tesla's are running into fewer and fewer people and the Optimus Robot is on schedule for sale in less than 2 years @ 20/30K.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024 04:29 AM (ZAwHo)

35 29 He's still so spacey, I hope I'm able to manage...
Posted by: JQ

What about hospice care?
Posted by: Tuna at December 13, 2024 04:25 AM (oaGWv)

What I did for my wife. They came every other day until she was getting close then every day. Brought equipment and meds.

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2024 04:31 AM (SSBCb)

36 What about hospice care?
Posted by: Tuna
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We'll cross that bridge when the time comes.

We spoke with gastroenterologist about "hospice" previously. At that point, all of his liver-related meds would be withdrawn and then he WOULD die within a few weeks. Like GnuBreed did.

Not ready to go there yet.

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2024 04:32 AM (YoCnN)

37 31 Jim if you keep AoSHq up type help and someone here could call nurse station. Might be faster
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2024 04:24 AM (fwDg9)

"Why the hell did three hundred people just call to shout 'NOOD' at me and then hang up?"
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 13, 2024 04:27 AM (y/ZMQ)

LOL!
Maybe because I am under my gown?

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2024 04:34 AM (SSBCb)

38 What I did for my wife. They came every other day until she was getting close then every day. Brought equipment and meds.
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia)

Same for my husband. I couldn't have managed without them.

Posted by: Tuna at December 13, 2024 04:34 AM (oaGWv)

39 It Friday 13

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2024 04:34 AM (fwDg9)

40 Ultimately, it's up to hubby. To decide whether to give up & go "hospice"

He wasn't 100% the last few years, but has been able to enjoy some quality of life.

I don't know how things will be tomorrow. He's come a long way back since Tuesday.

Time will tell.

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2024 04:35 AM (YoCnN)

41 33 I'm in recovery wing, not the ICU wing, so they weren't expecting this. They're going to hook me up w 24hr heart and O2 monitor. So they can react more quickly. I guess an O2 canula in the nose doesn't help when you're not breathing. LOL.
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia)
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Hey, no cooking, no washing dishes. Deal is, it's against the rules to stop breathing. OK? A prayer for you and your nurses.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024 04:35 AM (ZAwHo)

42 Dunno about y'all, but I STILL got that big old grin popping up thinking about the win we had election day, so big fraud didn't stand a chance.

Just as we have done prior, we prevailed over a serious issue and the record is yet unbroken. I fully understand that this is not the end but perhaps the end of the beginning, to paraphrase one of my favorite people. The struggle to ensure my beloved Republic endures continues as always. But we WILL prevail, because we're Americans, thus we are denied the option of failure.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at December 13, 2024 04:36 AM (hKoQL)

43 Mornin'

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2024 04:38 AM (ErLti)

44 39 It Friday 13
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2024 04:34 AM (fwDg9)

Nearly full moon too, isn't it?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 13, 2024 04:38 AM (y/ZMQ)

45 It's been almost exactly 4 years since the dr. told hubby to "Get your affairs in order. Power of Attorney, advance directive and Will" and said he had only a few weeks to live, perhaps even 3 months...

That's where we're at.

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2024 04:40 AM (YoCnN)

46 36 What about hospice care?
Posted by: Tuna
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We'll cross that bridge when the time comes.

We spoke with gastroenterologist about "hospice" previously. At that point, all of his liver-related meds would be withdrawn and then he WOULD die within a few weeks. Like GnuBreed did.

Not ready to go there yet.
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2024 04:32 AM (YoCnN)

They told my wife she could stop her diabetic meds, but left it as her choice. Maybe you need to talk to a different hospice company?

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2024 04:41 AM (SSBCb)

47 "A week after the attack, the industry continues to grapple with how to handle the flood of anger on social media pointed at the healthcare industry and insurance refusals to pay for care."
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Get in bed with Obama get out of bed with bed bugs.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024 04:43 AM (ZAwHo)

48 I'm waiting to see how much hubby 'recovers' after this latest episode...

He seems better daily, though was still kinda spacey today.

It remains to be seen, whether he recovers sufficiently to remain "at home"

If he can bounce back to where he was, then I can definitely continue to care for him here at home.

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2024 04:44 AM (YoCnN)

49 They told my wife she could stop her diabetic meds, but left it as her choice. Maybe you need to talk to a different hospice company?
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia)

The hospice company that took care of my husband did not withdraw his meds until his last couple of days. The same company took care of my mom too. She was under their care for well over a year.

Posted by: Tuna at December 13, 2024 04:46 AM (oaGWv)

50 I have to guess that a lot of the anger from non insane people is because they keep changing the rules. Medical Adhocracy. No one knows where they stand. No one knows what they paid for or what they're gonna get. Any given day, the rules can be changed, or they're so opaque and self-contradictory that they can pretend they say anything they like regardless.

And for every person who gets that from their insurance company, that insurance company gets that from the government.

50 million rules is worse than no rules at all.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 13, 2024 04:48 AM (y/ZMQ)

51 Mornin' Horde.

My neurons before coffee:
https://youtu.be/Yy5SeT02Hfc?t=66

(from 1m 6s to 1m 19 s)

Having coffee now. Yaaaaay.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 13, 2024 04:49 AM (O7YUW)

52 49 They told my wife she could stop her diabetic meds, but left it as her choice. Maybe you need to talk to a different hospice company?
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia)

The hospice company that took care of my husband did not withdraw his meds until his last couple of days. The same company took care of my mom too. She was under their care for well over a year.
Posted by: Tuna at December 13, 2024 04:46 AM (oaGWv)

Gotta watch out for those pro "Youth in Asia" hospice facilities.

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2024 04:49 AM (SSBCb)

53 "Everyone is laying low because no one wants to be the poster child for hate [online]," a mid-level insurance executive said.

"Nobody wants to get shot," another current health insurance executive said."
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This is an opportunity for Trump to rip into ObamaCare.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024 04:49 AM (ZAwHo)

54 Hospice: they stop 'treating' the problem that's killing you.

Other meds are allowed for comfort, or other problems such as UTI or whatever.

Trust me, we've already been thru "the system" and they keep trying to ~~kill him~~ put him on hospice, but he keeps LIVING *and* actually having some Quality Of Life.

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2024 04:51 AM (YoCnN)

55 BOING!

Beautiful day here up in north Israel. What's not so beautiful is the house's main circuit tripping every now and then.

Electrician on the way.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 13, 2024 04:53 AM (R06Wo)

56 Trust me, we've already been thru "the system" and they keep trying to kill him put him on hospice, but he keeps LIVING *and* actually having some Quality Of Life.
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2024 04:51 AM (YoCnN)
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Just like in the Monty Python skit!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 13, 2024 04:54 AM (R06Wo)

57 Electrician on the way.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 13, 2024 04:53 AM (R06Wo)

"Sorry, menorah, we're going straight to 9 tonight. Get over it."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 13, 2024 04:55 AM (y/ZMQ)

58 When it's time to give up, we'll give up.

Maybe it's time. Maybe it's not.

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2024 04:56 AM (YoCnN)

59 Trust me, we've already been thru "the system" and they keep trying to kill him put him on hospice, but he keeps LIVING *and* actually having some Quality Of Life.
Posted by: JQ

I understand where you're coming from. I hope your husband makes a good recovery. Mine did not but he had Alzheimer's and there was no coming back from that.

Posted by: Tuna at December 13, 2024 04:57 AM (oaGWv)

60 Trust me, we've already been thru "the system" and they keep trying to kill him put him on hospice, but he keeps LIVING *and* actually having some Quality Of Life.
Posted by: JQ
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I know how you feel. How and the level of home care depends on the individual state, it appears. For mom, it was twice a week max. But even that gives some relief.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024 04:57 AM (ZAwHo)

61 LLMs strike me as a lot like the infamous RAM doublers from the late 1990s.

"Syncronys marketed a program called SoftRAM for Windows that claimed to double RAM, but the Syncronys product, it turned out, didn’t actually do anything but increase the size of your swap file and show a pretty dashboard."

LLMs of course are vastly different being able to generate videos of cats with flamethrowers with the added advantage of generating completely false results to an inquiry.

Such is the nature of progress as we lurch forward towards Utopia.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at December 13, 2024 04:58 AM (e+6P0)

62 My wife's case, her liver was 90% + tumors. Jaundiced, yellow white of eyes, bloated with ascites. She had a couple of cycles of paracentesis but was at the end. She'd get up eat breakfast, go to bed, same cycle for lunch and dinner. One day, she are half her breakfast and said she was tired. That was the last time she ate. 5 days later she passed.

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2024 04:59 AM (SSBCb)

63 Maybe it's time. Maybe it's not.
Posted by: JQ
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It's not time until you say it's time. You'll know.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024 04:59 AM (ZAwHo)

64 Morning, Tech Peeps

Posted by: fluffy at December 13, 2024 04:59 AM (AN2gy)

65 >>>LLMs of course are vastly different being able to generate videos of cats with flamethrowers with the added advantage of generating completely false results to an inquiry.

Such is the nature of progress as we lurch forward towards Utopia.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
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Biggest problem right now is believing that they are accurate or not flawed. Teaching them to lie doesn't help either.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024 05:03 AM (ZAwHo)

66 Sorry, Tuna. That's so awful...

Yeah, I know that *one day* hubby won't beat the odds any longer. He just didn't progress as quickly as the dr's thought.

What pisses me off, is that when he had incarcerated hernia, the local dr's refused to operate "too high risk" and they tried to send him home (TO DIE in a matter of hours or days) with painkillers, hospice, yadda yadda.

That was 3 years ago. We fought, and they finally sent him by helo to another city, where there was a non-chickenshit dr.

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2024 05:04 AM (YoCnN)

67 56 Trust me, we've already been thru "the system" and they keep trying to kill him put him on hospice, but he keeps LIVING *and* actually having some Quality Of Life.
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2024 04:51 AM (YoCnN)
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Just like in the Monty Python skit!
Posted by: Biden's Dog

Yes? Hello, can we have your liver?
What? Your Liver?
There's a large, uh glandular organ in your abdomen
You know it's uh, it's reddish brown, it's sort oh uh
Yeah, yeah yeah, I know what it is but, I'm using it
C'mon sir, don't muck us about

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2024 05:04 AM (ErLti)

68 65 >>>LLMs of course are vastly different being able to generate videos of cats with flamethrowers with the added advantage of generating completely false results to an inquiry.

Such is the nature of progress as we lurch forward towards Utopia.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
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Biggest problem right now is believing that they are accurate or not flawed. Teaching them to lie doesn't help either.
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December

Mumble, mumble, HAL9000....

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2024 05:04 AM (SSBCb)

69 Trust me, we've already been thru "the system" and they keep trying to kill him put him on hospice, but he keeps LIVING *and* actually having some Quality Of Life. Posted by: JQ

My aunt went through something similar to what you are enduring five times: both her parents, both her husband's parents, and then her husband. She was a saint and so are you. I live alone so I have nobody that will pour out that much love when my demise begins. I think about that a lot.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at December 13, 2024 05:05 AM (e+6P0)

70 "AI" is like a cheap bread machine.

Hey, this is pretty darn close to actual bread! Now i can make almost bread every single day! I won't... because lazy... and that's a hell of a lot of carbs.... but... you know...i could!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 13, 2024 05:05 AM (y/ZMQ)

71 "The fear in the industry was reignited Wednesday when the New York Police Department found "wanted" posters of other healthcare executives posted around New York City, according to reports, and warned that the attack on Thompson and heightened public response could inspire similar acts."

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024 05:07 AM (ZAwHo)

72 It's Friday, it's Friday! Happy, happy Friday!

*twirl*

It's been a while. Remember me?

Posted by: Rosasharn at December 13, 2024 05:07 AM (PzBTm)

73 It's been a while. Remember me?
Posted by: Rosasharn at December 13, 2024 05:07 AM (PzBTm)

Gaaah! Don't sneak up on us like that!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 13, 2024 05:08 AM (y/ZMQ)

74 Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2024 05:04 AM (ErLti)
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That and "But I'm not dead yet."

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 13, 2024 05:08 AM (R06Wo)

75 The movie "I Care a Lot"
Scary.

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2024 05:10 AM (SSBCb)

76 Outside most of today at work, do get a break running to finish a few things at least. I don't like cold anymore

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2024 05:10 AM (fwDg9)

77 I live alone so I have nobody that will pour out that much love when my demise begins. I think about that a lot.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
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Yeah. Me too. Once hubby is gone.....

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2024 05:10 AM (YoCnN)

78 Ugh. Gotta sleep!

G'night, all. Prayers up for everybody!

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2024 05:12 AM (YoCnN)

79 In Canada, euthanasia now accounts for 5% of all deaths. (BBC)

Euthanasia is only available for people who are terminally ill, or chronically ill, or mentally ill, or generally inconvenient.

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"Having a bad day? Mind needs cleaning? There's a MAID for that!"

/Soon to be provided as An App by the Canadian Health Care System ... but first, there may be a several-months wait and make sure you pay your premiums & deductible!

Posted by: ShainS -- Deus Ex Muskina [h/t Mike Benz] at December 13, 2024 05:12 AM (0Q8Z+)

80 72 It's Friday, it's Friday! Happy, happy Friday!

*twirl*

It's been a while. Remember me?
Posted by: Rosasharn

No! We don't take to strangers around these parts...
(stares menacingly, piano stops playing)

How you doin'?

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2024 05:13 AM (ErLti)

81 G'night, all. Prayers up for everybody!
Posted by: JQ

And yourself.

Posted by: Tuna at December 13, 2024 05:13 AM (oaGWv)

82 It's so urgent to wire me up...that they still haven't. I don't recall signing up for the youth in Asia option...

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2024 05:16 AM (SSBCb)

83 77 I live alone so I have nobody that will pour out that much love when my demise begins. I think about that a lot.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
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Yeah. Me too. Once hubby is gone.....
Posted by: JQ
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Make it a triad.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024 05:18 AM (ZAwHo)

84 Ready to buy a robot I am.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024 05:19 AM (ZAwHo)

85 Heh.... apparently China says they found the world's largest gold deposit... worth.... (wait for it) .... $80 beeelion dollars!!!

Bitch, $80 billion ain't even a fucking rounding error. We piss away more than that on studying lipstick alternatives for underprivileged sub-Saharan jellyfish. Piss off.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 13, 2024 05:19 AM (y/ZMQ)

86 Going to job had Wi-Fi so maybe see what's going on today
Forward Dog 9 out

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2024 05:19 AM (fwDg9)

87 "God's keeping presence" Daniel 6:19-27
An insight on the devotional precedes it and a reflection and prayer follows it:

https://tinyurl.com/36ykfbd5

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2024 05:25 AM (9Z0zT)

88 In Canada, euthanasia now accounts for 5% of all deaths. (BBC)

Wait until Canada outsources managing euthanasia to AI because it was determined that only it can dispassionately and without favor select those who have exceeded their lifetime social credits. The appellate process is going to be lit. "But I'm 24 and an Olympic athlete..." AI, " let's see, if you only had gotten a bronze medal we might have had something to work with. So sorry."

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at December 13, 2024 05:26 AM (e+6P0)

89 Heh.... apparently China says they found the world's largest gold deposit... worth.... (wait for it) .... $80 beeelion dollars!!!

Bitch, $80 billion ain't even a fucking rounding error. We piss away more than that on studying lipstick alternatives for underprivileged sub-Saharan jellyfish. Piss off.
Posted by: Warai-otoko

I read that it's also 12 mi underground. That's a detail that will complicate everything. Meanwhile, the mineral and copper deposits in Northern Minnesota are worth over a trillion dollars and the Eco nuts won't let anybody extract them.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at December 13, 2024 05:28 AM (e+6P0)

90 After more than an hour, finally hooked up to monitor. Why? Needed doc approval & find a unit for me...

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2024 05:28 AM (SSBCb)

91 How you doin'?
Posted by: Puddleglum at work

Getting better. Sounds like a lot of illness traveling through the morons. I am sorry to hear that and will pray for all. I've been sick all fall and spent a week in the hospital. No fun at all. I was finally diagnosed with diverticulitis. My whole system was sick.

I am grateful to still be here.

Posted by: Rosasharn at December 13, 2024 05:29 AM (PzBTm)

92 72 It's Friday, it's Friday! Happy, happy Friday!

*twirl*

It's been a while. Remember me?
Posted by: Rosasharn at December 13, 2024 05:07 AM (PzBTm)

I do! Nice to "see" you twirling!

Posted by: m at December 13, 2024 05:31 AM (VnUSN)

93 I was finally diagnosed with diverticulitis. My whole system was sick. I am grateful to still be here.
Posted by: Rosasharn

I have a cousin who has had that several times. It's hell.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at December 13, 2024 05:31 AM (e+6P0)

94 My Robot:

https://tinyurl.com/y68xesz9

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024 05:31 AM (ZAwHo)

95 I am in a major Canada versus America dustup on Twitter that I didn’t want to get into. I went low finally and brought up the Canadian food thing. Michael Moore is a horrible person and I distain everything he is about. But the reality he did too great things for the world. The first one was his videoed commentary about how great it would be to vote for Trump. I still say that video actually played apart in Trump’s victory in 2016. The second one was his line in Canadian bacon when the character said.” when was the last time you went out for Canadian food?”

Posted by: Quint at December 13, 2024 05:32 AM (hcJdN)

96 Hi "m"!. Nice to be recognized!

Posted by: Rosasharn at December 13, 2024 05:32 AM (PzBTm)

97 My wife's case, her liver was 90% + tumors. Jaundiced, yellow white of eyes, bloated with ascites. She had a couple of cycles of paracentesis but was at the end. She'd get up eat breakfast, go to bed, same cycle for lunch and dinner. One day, she are half her breakfast and said she was tired. That was the last time she ate. 5 days later she passed.

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2024 04:59 AM (SSBCb)

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God Almighty ... it is anecdotes like this (presently experiencing something similar with my Aunt and last remaining living connection to the prior familial generation) -- and the human indignity suffered at the end -- that has made me question the existence & goodness of "God."

OTOH, all of our lives have been so blessed -- especially those of us fortunate enough to have been born in the USA at a better time -- that I must believe in God and pray that there is redemption in the generally temporary suffering.

I pretty much have no other choice ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Deus Ex Muskina [h/t Mike Benz] at December 13, 2024 05:34 AM (0Q8Z+)

98 To be clear, I am not anti-Canadian though I do worry like hell about what that state has become. We are very close to that and so is half of Western Europe so in many ways it’s not a joking matter..

I always thought of Canadian jokes as the most soft because we didn’t really mean it. Joking about Canada in itself was a joke to me as in let’s rag on the thing we actually like and it’s funny to pretend we are ragging on it.

Posted by: Quint at December 13, 2024 05:34 AM (hcJdN)

99
I read that it's also 12 mi underground. That's a detail that will complicate everything. Meanwhile, the mineral and copper deposits in Northern Minnesota are worth over a trillion dollars and the Eco nuts won't let anybody extract them.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
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That $300 Billion in El Salvador sounds stronger.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024 05:36 AM (ZAwHo)

100 100

Posted by: m at December 13, 2024 05:36 AM (VnUSN)

101 91 How you doin'?
Posted by: Puddleglum at work

Getting better. Sounds like a lot of illness traveling through the morons. I am sorry to hear that and will pray for all. I've been sick all fall and spent a week in the hospital. No fun at all. I was finally diagnosed with diverticulitis. My whole system was sick.

I am grateful to still be here.
Posted by: Rosasharn at December 13, 2024 05:29 AM (PzBTm)

That was my 2nd hospital visit in the last 45 days. Belly swoll up like a beach ball.

3rd visit was the abscess...

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2024 05:36 AM (SSBCb)

102 ascites
the accumulation of fluid in the peritoneal cavity, causing abdominal swelling.

Posted by: m at December 13, 2024 05:36 AM (VnUSN)

103 ... which I did not know.

Posted by: m at December 13, 2024 05:38 AM (VnUSN)

104 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 13, 2024 05:39 AM (hoCmQ)

105 I, Robot

https://tinyurl.com/y68xesz9

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024 05:43 AM (ZAwHo)

106 20+ year diverticulitis sufferer. Take note Morons it can go very badly as Jim and Rosasharn can attest. Even tougher when you’re way past 29, do not ignore it. Coming up on 5 years since my resection and I was lucky that a young pup doctor saw the warning signs before it became like Jim’s or Rosharn’s attacks.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 13, 2024 05:43 AM (VjSGz)

107
God Almighty ... it is anecdotes like this (presently experiencing something similar with my Aunt and last remaining living connection to the prior familial generation) -- and the human indignity suffered at the end -- that has made me question the existence & goodness of "God."

OTOH, all of our lives have been so blessed -- especially those of us fortunate enough to have been born in the USA at a better time -- that I must believe in God and pray that there is redemption in the generally temporary suffering.

I pretty much have no other choice ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Deus Ex Muskina [h/t Mike Benz] at December 13, 2024 05:34 AM (0Q8Z+)

It was a blessing the way she passed. It could've been in a hospital all alone, but I was there for her to the very end. I called her friends and family to talk to her when she was unconscious. I know she could hear them, as when I'd read to her she'd calm down. When it came to the end, her breathing getting shallower and faster, I was holding her hand, telling her how much I loved her and how it was okay for her to pass. I told her if she'd have me I'd do it all again with her.

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2024 05:43 AM (SSBCb)

108 "Euthanasia is only available for people who are terminally ill, or chronically ill, or mentally ill, or generally inconvenient."

All defined by the government.

You know who else killed 'inconvenient' people?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 13, 2024 05:44 AM (bss/y)

109 Coventry Carol. 1591.

I've always liked this one. However, when I went to do research, it is a good example of how things are not always what you think they are. This was on a CD of Christmas music I bought way back in college. The music is beautiful, but I remember a buddy and I mentioning 'Wait, did they just say "Young children to slay"?'
The lyrics:
Lully, lullay, thou little tiny child
By-by, lully, lullay
Lullay, thou little tiny child
By-by, lully, lullay
Oh, sisters too, how may we do
For to preserve this day
Oh, this poor youngling for whom we sing
By-by, lully, lullay
Herod the King, in his raging
Charged he hath this day
His men of might, in his own sight
All children young to slay
Then woe is me, poor child, for thee
And ever morn and day
For thy parting, nor say nor sing
By-by, lully, lullay
The song is from a mystery play and depicts the 'Massacre of the Innocents' from the Bible when King Herod ordered all of the male children under the age of 2 in Bethlehem killed. It is a lullaby sung by a mother to one of the condemned children.
Well, that is horrifying. People are strange.

https://tinyurl.com/5pe6k7hd

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 13, 2024 05:46 AM (bss/y)

110 Morning, Rosasharn! Sorry to hear about the diverticulitis.

I like to say this on Mondays, but it applies other days too: Compared to being on the wrong side of the ground, even a bad day is pretty small kumquats.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2024 05:46 AM (omVj0)

111 Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2024 05:43 AM (SSBCb

I am glad you were with her, Jim, and I do so believe that people can hear things even when they appear to be unconscious, so I am glad you were with her, holding her hand and telling her you love her.

Sorry for your present hospitalization and prayers for your recovery.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2024 05:47 AM (1NTE3)

112 My Robot tending bar.
https://tinyurl.com/4db65vmt

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024 05:48 AM (ZAwHo)

113 I, Robot

https://tinyurl.com/y68xesz9
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024

***
The third video down on that link, of the Chinese robot dancing -- that can't be real, can it?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2024 05:50 AM (omVj0)

114 See if I have connections

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2024 05:51 AM (AYz4A)

115 Re 113: "And by "real" I mean it's a human dancer showing what their robot is supposed to be able to do, right?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2024 05:51 AM (omVj0)

116 That's the hash

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2024 05:51 AM (AYz4A)

117 113 I, Robot

https://tinyurl.com/y68xesz9
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024

***
The third video down on that link, of the Chinese robot dancing -- that can't be real, can it?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2024 05:50 AM

The title in Spanish is more gangsta :"Yo, Robot".

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2024 05:52 AM (SSBCb)

118 For fun, I jumped in on an Ars Technica comment thread about the apparently settled science that EVs and solar energy are not just cars and an inefficient form of energy collection but Utopia itself. My comment essentially said, in reasonable prose, they're a pile of crap and nobody wants them because they're a pile of crap except for the Communists on Ars Technica. After getting through the thread, my remarks generated at least three PHD dissertations with charts, graphs, and at times footnotes that proved I was Hitler. Not bad results.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at December 13, 2024 05:54 AM (e+6P0)

119 113 I, Robot

https://tinyurl.com/y68xesz9
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024

***
The third video down on that link, of the Chinese robot dancing -- that can't be real, can it?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius,
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The lede, he's being sarcastic about the Chinese people.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024 05:55 AM (ZAwHo)

120 After getting through the thread, my remarks generated at least three PHD dissertations with charts, graphs, and at times footnotes that proved I was Hitler. Not bad results.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at December 13, 2024 05:54 AM (e+6P0)

If you aren't called Hitler at least once a day, you are not trying.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 13, 2024 05:56 AM (bss/y)

121 Off to sleep

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2024 06:00 AM (SSBCb)

122 This is the Tesla-Optimus site. Optimus is part of Tesla.
- - > https://xcancel.com/Tesla_Optimus/
It has several Optimus only clips. The one previously linked and the first one of it going up and down a hill.

[An article said the human gate is not walking but falling forward with the leg out front stopping the fall and moving the human forward...or something like that]

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024 06:01 AM (ZAwHo)

123 I know Outlook sucks, but the company uses it. Recently, the IT people made me use the "exchange" Outlook and then tried some other crap on my laptop and the next thing I know is the calendar part of Outlook kept saying "not responding". Now, according to the inhouse IT person whose preferred language is, you guessed it, spanish, says the problem is with MS 365 and his fix is to have me use one version of Outlook for my emails and another version for my calendars which sucks. There has got to be a better service than Outlook I could talk my company into using, OR, how do I get IT to fix this Outlook problem so I can stay in one Outlook program for all my needs? Thanks.

Posted by: Can't take Outlook anymore at December 13, 2024 06:01 AM (rzwGB)

124 says the problem is with MS 365 and his fix is to have me use one version of Outlook for my emails and another version for my calendars which sucks. There has got to be a better service than Outlook I could talk my company into using, OR, how do I get IT to fix this Outlook problem so I can stay in one Outlook program for all my needs? Thanks.
Posted by: Can't take Outlook

Whoever set up your exchange server is an idiot. Start there.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at December 13, 2024 06:05 AM (e+6P0)

125 Not bad results.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
...............
Well done, sir! You need to frame that, somehow, and put it in your office.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at December 13, 2024 06:07 AM (1nuzD)

126 Happy Friday

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2024 06:10 AM (gbOdA)

127 The putsch is on for Chat GP. Yahoo article - I asked ChatGPT for financial advice. Here's what happened.- They asked three basic questions and received three basic answers so ChatGPT is OK.
Of course, Yahoo is basic bs so what would one expect?

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024 06:12 AM (ZAwHo)

128 >124- will do, thanks.

Posted by: Can't take Outlook anymore at December 13, 2024 06:15 AM (rzwGB)

129 https://www.americanthinker.com/joe biden considers a scorched earth policy on his way out the door

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2024 06:18 AM (AYz4A)

130 "...SEC is preparing to take action against him [Musk] related to his investment in Twitter Inc. before he bought the platform in 2022.

The regulator has been examining the timing and disclosure of Musk’s purchase of Twitter stock before he acquired the company for $44 billion. The letter said the agency gave Musk a 48-hour deadline to accept a settlement over the probe or face an enforcement action. The SEC declined to comment.
...
[Musk's] lawyer demanded to know whether it was Gensler or “the White House” who is directing an “improperly motivated campaign against Mr. Musk.”
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Let's---- > Go Brandon

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024 06:21 AM (ZAwHo)

131 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at December 13, 2024 06:23 AM (dg+HA)

132 The FBI had at least 26 confidential informants on the ground in Washington, DC, during the Jan. 6, 2021 storming of the Capitol — most of whom engaged in illegal activity during the chaos, the Justice Department’s watchdog confirmed in a bombshell report.

It will end up being well over 200.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2024 06:25 AM (gbOdA)

133 Frozen if in se Pa, it's low 20s

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2024 06:26 AM (AYz4A)

134 >124- will do, thanks. Also get a different it person.

When I was at Microsoft we used Outlook and Exchange. Let me check my notes: they have over 100,000 employees and it worked mostly without drama. You may not like the client design - that's a different discussion. But that has nothing to do with why Outlook/Exchange are not doing their most basic functions at your company. As for for the MS365 Outlook as near as I'm able to determine that whole global email system is running on exchange servers. Again, lots of bitching and moaning about Microsoft doesn't have anything to do with Microsoft at all and this appears to be the case here. Still I feel you're pain, you just want to get your email and manage your calendar. Good luck sorting this one out.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at December 13, 2024 06:26 AM (e+6P0)

135 I didn't know there was an opera singer who sang "Amazing Grace" at the reopening of Notre Dame Cathedral. Her rendition was powerful:

https://tinyurl.com/4yzjpuuc

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2024 06:26 AM (q+j7u)

136 Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at December 13, 2024 06:26 AM (fsC91)

137 Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2024 06:18 AM (AYz4A

I don't think Joe Biden is considered much of anything, but the traitorous cabal behind him is.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2024 06:28 AM (q+j7u)

138 I watched some nitwit communist at a senate hearing about immigration and missing kids. This nitwit said the kids aren't missing. It's just that Homeland security isn't looking for them Plus who's going to pick our fruit and wash our toilets?

Oddly enough, you never mentioned that was the Biden administrator that created this whole chaotic cock-up that we did seem to slide in implications that Trump is the real issue.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at December 13, 2024 06:32 AM (e+6P0)

139 The FBI had at least 26 confidential informants on the ground in Washington, DC, during the Jan. 6, 2021 storming of the Capitol — most of whom engaged in illegal activity during the chaos, the Justice Department’s watchdog confirmed in a bombshell report.

It will end up being well over 200.
Posted by: rhennigantx

--

I think we're going to be shocked to see the numbers of Ukranians involved, up to and including the Azov battalion Nazis (I'm not using that in the leftist throwaway meaning but in the actual Nazi meaning) that IIRC trained in Virginia.

I suspect the Ukranian troop/thug involvement was key. No oversight, little recognition, tons of deniability, and no connection to the American grandmas they were betraying and beating.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Women can't be incels, it's impossible at December 13, 2024 06:33 AM (/50FY)

140 132 The FBI had at least 26 confidential informants on the ground in Washington, DC, during the Jan. 6, 2021 storming of the Capitol — most of whom engaged in illegal activity during the chaos, the Justice Department’s watchdog confirmed in a bombshell report.

It will end up being well over 200.
Posted by: rhennigantx
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They have them listed under different categories allowing them to diffuse the answer. These were paid informants ie. contractors.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024 06:38 AM (ZAwHo)

141 135 I didn't know there was an opera singer who sang "Amazing Grace" at the reopening of Notre Dame Cathedral. Her rendition was powerful:

https://tinyurl.com/4yzjpuuc
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2024 06:26 AM

Beautiful Thanks

Posted by: LASue at December 13, 2024 06:39 AM (lCppi)

142 26 were the active instigators, there were lots more in lesser roles. J6 dwarfs the Reichstag fire.

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2024 06:39 AM (jgmnb)

143 https://tinyurl.com/4yzjpuuc
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2024 06:26 AM (q+j7u)
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Excellent, well worth the watch.

Thank you.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 13, 2024 06:39 AM (tT6L1)

144 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 13, 2024 06:40 AM (u82oZ)

145 I suspect the Ukranian troop/thug involvement was key. No oversight, little recognition, tons of deniability, and no connection to the American grandmas they were betraying and beating.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Women can't be incels, it's impossible at December 13, 2024 06:33 AM (/50FY)
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Conspiracy theory!
*will revisit in a couple of days when it becomes news*

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 13, 2024 06:41 AM (tT6L1)

146 >>>I don't think Joe Biden is considered much of anything, but the traitorous cabal behind him is.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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100 person round table. Vested interests.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024 06:41 AM (ZAwHo)

147 FenelonSpoke

Thank you. Beautiful performance.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 13, 2024 06:42 AM (u82oZ)

148 144 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
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Today may be a busy day.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024 06:42 AM (ZAwHo)

149 Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 13, 2024 06:40 AM (u82oZ)
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Sort of goes without saying, because every morning we exist drives leftists crazy because they hate us.

Morning, sir!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 13, 2024 06:42 AM (tT6L1)

150 Conspiracy theory!
*will revisit in a couple of days when it becomes news*
Posted by: blake

-

They'd be next to impossible to find now, but there were lots of videos of violent men caught saying things like "Sad this has to happen right before Christmas."

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - There's not such thing as LGBTQ, only straight and not straight, meaning gay at December 13, 2024 06:44 AM (/50FY)

151 They'd be next to impossible to find now, but there were lots of videos of violent men caught saying things like "Sad this has to happen right before Christmas."
Posted by: Boron Cobbie -
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Did they have an accent ?

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024 06:45 AM (ZAwHo)

152 mornin yall. We got Trump and things will be different next year, BUT, the insanity will continue and humanity will continue it's quest for peak stupidity. It's who we are.

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 06:46 AM (vFG9F)

153 {{{Rosasharn}}}

Huzzah! And she is twirling!

*Does Happy Dance to Peter White's Reveillez-vous. *

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 13, 2024 06:46 AM (u82oZ)

154 Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 13, 2024 06:40 AM (u82oZ)
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Sort of goes without saying, because every morning we exist drives leftists crazy because they hate us.

Morning, sir!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 13, 2024 06:42 AM (tT6L1
You guys are putting out words heavy with iron this morning,
- Three Bears, Ten Bears nephew of Goldilocks tribe.

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2024 06:48 AM (jgmnb)

155 Did they have an accent ?

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Not sure but it's a safe bet. Our Betters had those connections so there was no way they weren't used.

I'm guessing they were closely involved in the Trump shooting and 2nd attempt (and all others). I think the 2nd one was confirmed even by the MSM, so the actual connection would be interesting to know.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - There's no such thing as LGBTQ, only straight and not straight, meaning gay at December 13, 2024 06:48 AM (/50FY)

156 Not all cities require their police to stand down when thugs are b brazenly stealing and pulling guns on the citizens. An example from Las Cruces a couple years ago. The courts are a whole different discussion though.

https://youtu.be/OV-ofsUgpZc

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at December 13, 2024 06:49 AM (e+6P0)

157 I saw an interview quite a while ago with Dan Bongino which talked about Feds infiltrating a group. From what I remember, he said it takes a least 6 months to get someone inside an organization.

My point being, the op was set up long before J6 took place.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 13, 2024 06:50 AM (tT6L1)

158 Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 13, 2024 06:42 AM (u82oZ)

You are most welcome. I hope you have a good day enjoying the sunrise and the beauty of local agriculture. I'm sure you bless the kids by your calmness and good humor and carefulness.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2024 06:50 AM (bTAqe)

159 There's no way to know,, but it would be neat to see a Venn diagram of the J6 attendees wearing masks and Antifa/Feds / Ukrainians / etc.

I bet it's a pretty tight circle.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - There's no such thing as LGBTQ, only straight and not straight, meaning gay at December 13, 2024 06:51 AM (/50FY)

160 blake

I think it started with the TEA Party movement.

We had one guy visit and ask lots of questions. He seemed off. We kept cool, and treated him as an informer.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 13, 2024 06:52 AM (u82oZ)

161 In local news, Emma-Lee Garcia was charged with trafficking of a 13-year-old female. The "news" does not say the 13 year old is her daughter, so I wonder how this arrangement came to pass.

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 06:52 AM (vFG9F)

162 Again, lots of bitching and moaning about Microsoft doesn't have anything to do with Microsoft at all and this appears to be the case here.

Admit it, you're Bill Gates, aren't you.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 13, 2024 06:52 AM (ExV1e)

163 FenelonSpoke

The good news is they let me sing along on the Christmas carols. But now the first grade girls know all the works to the 12 Days of Christmas. Well, except for the 9 ladies dancing. They needed help there.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 13, 2024 06:54 AM (u82oZ)

164 Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 13, 2024 06:54 AM (u82oZ)

That's great!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2024 06:55 AM (vocDY)

165 "would be neat to see a Venn diagram of the J6 attendees wearing masks and Antifa/Feds / Ukrainians / etc."

I watched live as people dressed in black and wearing helmets and other protective gear broke windows on the Capitol. I said then that those people were not Trump supporters.

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 06:55 AM (vFG9F)

166

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 13, 2024 06:56 AM (EFZgU)

167 Admit it, you're Bill Gates, aren't you.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

I'm so busted. How'd you know? I used to work there and from time to time we had to interact with customer issues. Plus you got to hear all the war stories floating around. There really is a phenomenon where people blame Microsoft for everything when in reality it's customers that have no idea what they're doing with the products. This then gets repeated across the internet where it lives on forever. It's all quite amusing when you think about it.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at December 13, 2024 06:56 AM (e+6P0)

168 FenelonSpoke

Cows, sheep, llamas, and horses are all cold. Standard Continental Winter. But I noticed more round bales being used for feed.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 13, 2024 06:56 AM (u82oZ)

169 I watched live as people dressed in black and wearing helmets and other protective gear broke windows on the Capitol. I said then that those people were not Trump supporters.
Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 06:55 AM (vFG9F)
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According to our troll yesterday, yes, yes they were! (by the way, the bike racks torn up to use as ladders to scale a wall was classic antifa)

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 13, 2024 06:57 AM (tT6L1)

170 Hillary Clinton

Ah, one of the Great Old Ones has arrived.

No one gets a saving throw for sanity.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 13, 2024 06:57 AM (u82oZ)

171 When weird crap with Outlook and Office happens you can't expect any help from MS. They have a monopoly and don't really care one way or another if you hate them or not.

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 06:58 AM (vFG9F)

172 Have a great day, everyone.

May Nature get you to say Oooh, Ah, not ouch.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 13, 2024 06:58 AM (u82oZ)

173 "There really is a phenomenon where people blame Microsoft for everything when in reality it's customers that have no idea what they're doing with the products."

Yeah. Over 40 years in IT and I have no idea.

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 06:59 AM (vFG9F)

174 QUICK REFERENCE GUIDE TO SPACE ACTIVITY FOR DECEMBER 13

SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink 11-2
SLC-4E - Vandenberg Space Force Base - Space Affairs Live
Lift-off is planned for December 13, 11:28 a.m. PT, 1928 UTC, 20:28 CET with a 4h launch window.
Livestreams from Vandenberg are coming back as normal.

https://www.youtube.com/live/UfOYar4WidI
______________

SpaceX - Falcon 9 - GPS 3 10
SLC-40 - Cape Canaveral SFS - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: December 13, 2024
Launch Time: 8:04 p.m. ET - (December 14, 0104 UTC - 02:04 CET)

https://www.youtube.com/live/wvwfwtWB_18

Posted by: Ciampino - both coasts today at December 13, 2024 07:00 AM (i0xsb)

175 Years ago, I'd have given MS the benefit of a doubt with their snapshot idea, figuring they were trying to save users from themselves.

I no longer have the luxury of giving any big tech company the benefit of a doubt.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 13, 2024 07:01 AM (tT6L1)

176 When weird crap with Outlook and Office happens you can't expect any help from MS. They have a monopoly and don't really care one way or another if you hate them or not.
Posted by: fd

Since leaving Microsoft, I've dealt with their customer service. It's a bit maddening like all large corporation customer service departments, but if you can get past the front line you can get some pretty great help. Throwing out there that they don't care is completely contrary to my boots on the ground hard experience as a Microsoft employee and now as a end user customer. YMWV of course.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at December 13, 2024 07:02 AM (e+6P0)

177 "would be neat to see a Venn diagram of the J6 attendees wearing masks and Antifa/Feds / Ukrainians / etc."

I watched live as people dressed in black and wearing helmets and other protective gear broke windows on the Capitol. I said then that those people were not Trump supporters.
Posted by: fd

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Someone posted an article with this photo at the top. It was a good article and I'll link it in another post.

But make this make sense.

https://tinyurl.com/2z6s5ucc

I'm at the point where I think there were probably more instigators/fakes there than Trump supporters.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - There's no such thing as LGBTQ, only straight and not straight, meaning gay at December 13, 2024 07:03 AM (/50FY)

178 So, are we in agreement the Falcon 9 is, without a doubt, the most reliable rocket yet built?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 13, 2024 07:03 AM (tT6L1)

179 Yeah. Over 40 years in IT and I have no idea.
Posted by: fd

Well I have 40 years experience too and I didn't claim that was a blanket situation but it was not rare. We will agree to disagree I guess.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at December 13, 2024 07:04 AM (e+6P0)

180 Good morning morons

I'm just here for the twirling.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2024 07:04 AM (RIvkX)

181 "if you can get past the front line you can get some pretty great help."

Why do they make it so difficult to get past the front line?

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 07:04 AM (vFG9F)

182 Not sure if I saw it here initially but it's worth a read:

How the January 6 Capitol Riots Were an FBI Entrapment Operation

https://tinyurl.com/52kh7ekj

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - There's no such thing as LGBTQ, only straight and not straight, meaning gay at December 13, 2024 07:05 AM (/50FY)

183 There's a video floating around of a law enforcement officers bodycam as he's helping and encouraging participants to climb scaffolding.

Another is of officers giving people entering the doors adhesive guest passes to put on their clothes after they pas through the metal detector screening area.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - There's no such thing as LGBTQ, only straight and not straight, meaning gay at December 13, 2024 07:07 AM (/50FY)

184 I never agree to disagree. I'm right and everyone else on the planet is wrong.

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 07:08 AM (vFG9F)

185 I never agree to disagree. I'm right and everyone else on the planet is wrong.
Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 07:08 AM (vFG9F)
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You're wrong.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 13, 2024 07:09 AM (tT6L1)

186 124>134>167- I truly believe it is the techs that work on my computer. It's like I say about the Dr's around here in the city of medicine, "not every Dr. was an A student, some were C-". It's the same with some IT techs and other industries.

Posted by: Can't take Outlook anymore at December 13, 2024 07:10 AM (rzwGB)

187 "agree to disagree" has always seemed weird and dismissive to me.

There is no truth and I won't give an inch or listen to your viewpoints and take any into my understanding of the world. Shut up and go away.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - There's no such thing as LGBTQ, only straight and not straight, meaning gay at December 13, 2024 07:12 AM (/50FY)

188 Pro tip. Don't dine out in DC:

"Food workers in Washington, D.C., pledged to refuse service and cause other inconveniences for members of the incoming Trump administration.

Bartenders and servers in the report promised to shun certain officials or employ other small acts of resistance against these figures to take their “power back.”

“This person theoretically has the power to take away your rights, but I have the power to make you wait 20 minutes to get your entrée,” Nancy, a fine-dining bartender, said. "

I'm looking forward to fine dining bartenders learning to pluck chickens after their previous employers shut down.

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 07:13 AM (vFG9F)

189 Morning, all.

I got a twirl for my birthday! So sorry to hear about your ills, Rosasharon and hope you continue to heal.
Prayers up for all of you.
This thread is one of the best parts of my day.

Posted by: sal at December 13, 2024 07:14 AM (f+FmA)

190 "You're wrong.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing"

But you see, I am right and everyone else is wrong so that makes you wrong and I am right

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 07:16 AM (vFG9F)

191 Posted by: sal at December 13, 2024 07:14 AM (f+FmA)

Amen!, and Happy Birthday, sal.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2024 07:17 AM (YLESS)

192 “This person theoretically has the power to take away your rights, but I have the power to make you wait 20 minutes to get your entrée,” Nancy, a fine-dining bartender, said. "

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hahahaha

Like Cracker Barrel and blacks

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - There's no such thing as LGBTQ, only straight and not straight, meaning gay at December 13, 2024 07:17 AM (/50FY)

193 I'm going to take my power back by driving in the left lane at 50 mph and making everyone behind me do the same.

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 07:20 AM (vFG9F)

194 How is holding up entrees and being a general PITA to diners "taking back your power" and what power was that- to provide a pleasant dining experience so that you can get a nice tip?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2024 07:20 AM (YLESS)

195 “This person theoretically has the power to take away your rights"

Ah yes. No logic from her just feelingz. This dumb broad is blissfully unaware that there will be restaurant owners who see this treatment and go the opposite way.

Posted by: NR Pax at December 13, 2024 07:21 AM (lXCUP)

196 The black masks were Antifa not Ukrainians. Why import people from the other side of the world when there are plenty of malcontents and black sheep right here?

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024 07:22 AM (ZAwHo)

197 I'm going to take my power back by making a registry change so your Outlook calendar won't open.

Posted by: A IT person of justice at December 13, 2024 07:22 AM (vFG9F)

198 rhennigantx that's what I am thinking, 26 x 8 more + other federal departments undercover as well

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2024 07:27 AM (AYz4A)

199 Why import people from the other side of the world when there are plenty of malcontents and black sheep right here?

Cheap labor.

Posted by: NR Pax at December 13, 2024 07:28 AM (lXCUP)

200 Also Ukrainian. Also antifa. Because why not? Each has different skill sets.

Remember all buses?

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - society needs the pejorative faggot, so the term sassy is now used at December 13, 2024 07:28 AM (411Cx)

201 Here's the rest of the story:

"A bartender named Joseph said while he was disappointed by the election results, he was looking forward to higher tips with more Republicans in Washington.

"I think my tip average from Republicans—at least ones that I or a coworker has recognized—is close to 30 percent. With Dems, I’m surprised if it’s over 20,” he said, adding that Republicans tend to be lower maintenance patrons as well."

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 07:28 AM (vFG9F)

202

Posted by: Don Black at December 13, 2024 07:28 AM (/7KEl)

203 And not black masks. All masks. And violent people without masks.

There was one in at least three photos in three separate areas fighting with cops, instigating violence, and people pointed out that his unmasked face wasn't on any wanted page by the FBI

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - society needs the pejorative faggot, so the term sassy is now used at December 13, 2024 07:31 AM (411Cx)

204 Probably a good test when you walk in a DC restaurant is to just say "Trump" and see if the host's eyes go wide and they start foaming at the mouth.

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 07:32 AM (vFG9F)

205 "I think my tip average from Republicans—at least ones that I or a coworker has recognized—is close to 30 percent. With Dems, I’m surprised if it’s over 20,” he said, adding that Republicans tend to be lower maintenance patrons as well."
Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 07:28 AM (vFG9F)
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Making more money yet they're disappointed? These people are idiots.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 13, 2024 07:33 AM (tT6L1)

206 > Why import people from the other side of the world when there are plenty of malcontents and black sheep right here?
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I'd like to revisit the practice of indentured servitude rather than have government mess around with the employment pool by bringing in foreigners.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2024 07:33 AM (Q4IgG)

207 Why import people from the other side of the world when there are plenty of malcontents and black sheep right here?

-

Also how do you think we toppled their governments?

Why wouldn't the same people use the same strategy?

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - society needs the pejorative faggot, so the term sassy is now used at December 13, 2024 07:35 AM (411Cx)

208 "not every Dr. was an A student, some were C-"

I love how we Americans obfuscate the truth. What is a C- ?
In Africa we had A, B, C, D E, F(ail). Also no grading on curves. No multiple choice. Most answers were essay style (all in Sciences).
So is a C- a real D or an E?

Posted by: Ciampino - He's been there too at December 13, 2024 07:36 AM (i0xsb)

209 But you see, I am right and everyone else is wrong so that makes you wrong and I am right
Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 07:16 AM (vFG9F)
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But, since I know you're wrong, that means you're still wrong.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 13, 2024 07:38 AM (tT6L1)

210
SEF
TON

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2024 07:40 AM (gbOdA)

211 "But, since I know you're wrong, that means you're still wrong.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing"

*pauses, thinks*

Stop messing with my reality!

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 07:40 AM (vFG9F)

212 *pauses, thinks*

Stop messing with my reality!
Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 07:40 AM (vFG9F)
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You're right.

*thinks*

Drat!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 13, 2024 07:42 AM (tT6L1)

213 ---------
I'd like to revisit the practice of indentured servitude rather than have government mess around with the employment pool by bringing in foreigners.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Buddy's forefathers and mother's were indentured servants and glad to be so. It got them the heck out of England. They worked their debts off and became citizens. Fought for the colonies before they were states.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024 07:43 AM (ZAwHo)

214 181 "if you can get past the front line you can get some pretty great help."

Why do they make it so difficult to get past the front line?

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2024 07:04 AM (vFG9F)
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You need to filter out the moron who calls with a supposed software problem but doesn't mention the power blackout.

Posted by: Ciampino - Old WordPerfect joke at December 13, 2024 07:44 AM (i0xsb)

215 Nothing better than black coffee in the morning to perk one up.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024 07:46 AM (ZAwHo)

216 When calling help center; if it doesn't pay attention to what I'm saying, doesn't understand what I'm saying or if its headset is so poor that I can't understand them I hang up and start over.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024 07:49 AM (ZAwHo)

217 I call third tit.....again.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 13, 2024 07:50 AM (ZAwHo)

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