Fire Them All: The Democrats' Manueverings Have Granted Trump the Power to Fire Anyone He Wants

Back in 2021, Biden terminated the appointment of Sean Spicer to a Navy body.

The Democrats have no standing to claim that Trump can't do the same.

President-elect Donald Trump is arriving at the White House armed with a legal weapon that will let him fire any of President Joe Biden's appointees.
Thanks in part to a court fight former Trump White House spokesman Sean Spicer lost over his firing by Biden from a three-year term to the Board of Visitors to the United States Naval Academy, the incoming president will have the legal backing to dump any of Biden's over 4,000 appointments who try to stick around.
And the best part, Spicer told Secrets, "They'll have no one to blame but Biden himself."
The case dates to Sept. 8, 2021, when Biden began to fire Trump allies from the visitor boards at the academies of the Navy, the Air Force, and the Army.
Spicer and others, including Russ Vought (just picked by Trump to head the Office of Management and Budget) and former Trump counselor Kellyanne Conway, were unceremoniously dumped despite several of them having time left on their three-year terms.
Spicer and Vought sued, saying that unlike White House staff or others appointed by a prior president, they couldn't be fired because of their congressionally mandated terms.
They lost, however, when a judge essentially ruled that the president could fire any presidential appointee, whether they had terms or not. A further effort failed, too.

Spicer said he didn't sue to get the job back -- he sued to get the Democrats to argue that the president could fire whoever he liked. The Democrats did argue that, and won.

And now Trump owns the precedent.

Meanwhile, Schumer schemed to give an extra-long term to a last-minute appointee.

As RedState reported on Tuesday, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer schemed to create a years-long installation of Democrats on the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) through President-elect Donald Trump's entire second administration. On Monday, Schumer filed cloture on the nomination of current NLRB Chairman Lauren McFerran to extend her term into 2026, and pushed for a Wednesday vote in the hopes that a thin Democrat majority, coupled with the absence of certain Republican senators on the floor, would work in his favor.
Schumer not only had his hopes dashed, but his comeuppance came at the hands of two independent members who caucus with his own party.

[CBS:] A Democrat-led push to secure a majority on the National Labor Relations Board until 2026 fell short on Wednesday, as Senate Republicans and two independents blocked the nomination of Lauren McFerran to continue serving on the labor board.
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer filed cloture Monday on the nominations of McFerran, a Democrat, to remain for another five-year term on the National Labor Relations Board. McFerran is the current chair of the NLRB whose term is set to expire later this month. Her confirmation to another term would have maintained a Democratic majority on the board, in a move that would have marked a key victory for Democrats heading into a second Trump administration and a Republican trifecta in Washington.
In a 50 to 49 vote, Senate Republicans, joined by independent Sens. Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin, blocked the nomination from advancing. Without the confirmation, the board is expected to swing to come under Republican control, with a vacancy for President-elect Donald Trump and the incoming GOP-controlled Senate to fill in the new year.

S a D, droopydicks.

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1 nd

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at December 12, 2024 03:11 PM (ONKVy)

2 Hoisted

Posted by: Ann at December 12, 2024 03:11 PM (4neFu)

3 The Biden Doctrine

That has a nice ring to it.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at December 12, 2024 03:14 PM (vX3K6)

4 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 12, 2024 03:14 PM (Zz0t1)

5 It's astonishing that the people to whom we entrust the running of the nation are incapable of thinking just a few steps ahead.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2024 03:14 PM (xCA6C)

6 Washington Times is reporting something similar with the FBI. We know they will try and burrow saboteurs deep inside all these agencies. Trump team needs a plan to deal with it.

"Sources within the bureau said Mr. Wray has begun promoting employees among the senior executive service, those who serve within the bureau’s leadership. These sources described this as an effort to burrow establishment figures deeper within the FBI.

Sources said a plan is being formulated to delay the new FBI director’s entry into the agency for three to four months."

https://tinyurl.com/4a4cvjab

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at December 12, 2024 03:14 PM (V6W16)

7 I am all for wiping out many government employees, start with the alphabet and work up it.

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2024 03:15 PM (fwDg9)

8 What part of "serves at the mercy of the President" do they not understand?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 12, 2024 03:15 PM (Zz0t1)

9 "Spicer said he didn't sue to get the job back -- he sued to get the Democrats to argue that the president could fire whoever he liked. The Democrats did argue that, and won."

They did this will Bill Clinton, too.

For his entire Administration, I argued that morality and character mattered in the presidency. Democrats told me to fuck right off. We weren't electing a priest or a babysitter. We were electing a manager - someone to make sure the economy was amazing.

Fine. You win. Now have President Trump, bitches. Again.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at December 12, 2024 03:15 PM (FAbrK)

10 Robby Starbuck @robbystarbuck 1h
Another conspiracy theory proven to be the truth. The government now admits that the FBI had 26 Confidential Human Sources at the Capitol on January 6th and most of them committed crimes but NONE of them have been charged.

BPOLITICO @politico 1h
FBI didn’t deploy undercover agents on Jan. 6, watchdog report finds, undercutting conspiracy theories

Catturd ™ @catturd2 1h
Garbage publication Politico just blatantly lying again.

CNN @CNN 1h
No undercover FBI agents were at the US Capitol during the insurrection, a Justice Department watchdog has found, rejecting claims by allies of President-elect Donald Trump that the violence on January 6, 2021, was provoked by federal agents.

Catturd ™ @catturd2 41m
All they do is lie.

Catturd ™ @catturd2 38m
Replying to @Bill43111 @CNN
Imagine being so gullible you believe fake news CNN when the IG report came out today saying 26 FBI agents were involved. 🐏🤡

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 12, 2024 03:16 PM (hovnC)

11 armed with a legal weapon that will let him fire any of President Joe Biden's appointees.
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You misspelled "all".

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2024 03:16 PM (RyRnV)

12 about the nlrb thing, i half expected biden to win with a couple of votes from the usual go along to get along republicans

yay us for a change

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 12, 2024 03:17 PM (CWTWj)

13 Can we set up a giant statue of Nelson Muntz in front of FJB's White House and have it play a constant recording of "HA-ha!" on an endless loop?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2024 03:17 PM (7fElN)

14 The Democrats have no standing to claim that Trump can't do the same.

Bets?

Posted by: A Hawaiian Judge! at December 12, 2024 03:17 PM (uxCna)

15 Chuck Schumer needs a bus induced coma.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 12, 2024 03:17 PM (Zz0t1)

16 most of them committed crimes but NONE of them have been charged.
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Another Special checkmark to the geniuses who wanted Trump to just blanket pardon "everyone".

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2024 03:17 PM (RyRnV)

17 Firing is too good for these shitheads. They need to fired ... and then thrown into a giant pit of diarrhea, vomit, and ravenous guinea worms. Face first. Then, after a month in this pit, and if they repent and promise to forever vote GOP in the future, then the guinea worms will be removed.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2024 03:18 PM (iFTx/)

18 Wait. Hasn't a Hawaiian judge already established that under the Good N Plenty Clause the federal courts are free to apply different rules to Republican presidents?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2024 03:18 PM (TcVeV)

19 Krysten Skinemax was an odd gal but she turned and fucked the Democrats hard, Twice.

Posted by: DBCooper at December 12, 2024 03:18 PM (y1Mvi)

20 McFerran is the current chair of the NLRB whose term is set to expire later this month.

Dear DOGE,

I think I found a department in the Federal Government you can get rid of.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 12, 2024 03:18 PM (Zz0t1)

21 What part of "serves at the mercy of the President" do they not understand?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 12, 2024 03:15 PM (Zz0t1)

Mercy?

Posted by: Donald J. Thanos at December 12, 2024 03:18 PM (RyRnV)

22 I fucking love this.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 12, 2024 03:18 PM (k0mhs)

23 Firing is too good for these shitheads. They need to fired ... and then thrown into a giant pit of diarrhea, vomit, and ravenous guinea worms. Face first. Then, after a month in this pit, and if they repent and promise to forever vote GOP in the future, then the guinea worms will be removed.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2024 03:18 PM (iFTx/)

Can they crawl over field of broken glass first?

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2024 03:18 PM (CIS44)

24 Your fired and your fired and your fired and your fired and your fired and your fired and your fired...is it 08:01 yet?

Posted by: President Donald J. Trump Day One at December 12, 2024 03:18 PM (Jq+og)

25 Chuck Schumer schemed to create a years-long installation of Democrats on the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB)

It seems important to him. Let's get rid of it.

Posted by: t-bird at December 12, 2024 03:19 PM (zMQny)

26 Bets?

Hey, I'm the guy who ruled that Trump couldn't undo Obama's executive orders with his executive orders!

Tee, hee!

Posted by: A Hawaiian Judge! at December 12, 2024 03:19 PM (uxCna)

27 Firing is too good for these shitheads. They need to fired ... and then thrown into a giant pit of diarrhea, vomit, and ravenous guinea worms. Face first. Then, after a month in this pit, and if they repent and promise to forever vote GOP in the future, then the guinea worms will be removed.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2024 03:18 PM (iFTx/)

Can they crawl over field of broken glass first?
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2024 03:18 PM (CIS44)
___________

Hmmm . . . I'll allow it

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2024 03:19 PM (iFTx/)

28 Sources said a plan is being formulated to delay the new FBI director’s entry into the agency for three to four months."

https://tinyurl.com/4a4cvjab
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at December 12, 2024 03:14 PM (V6W16)
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Great. Now I'm picturing Kash Patel steamrolling through the front doors of the FBI building in a tank the day after he's confirmed.

He pops out of the top of the tank, puts a bullhorn to his mouth, and yells, "You're all fired! Get the hell out of my building!"

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2024 03:20 PM (7fElN)

29 Maybe the far left shouldn't have elbowed Sinema and Manchin out of the party for refusing to tank the filibuster. I don't blame either of them for a little petty revenge.

Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at December 12, 2024 03:20 PM (HI5Mk)

30 What Cicero said.

Would not be the least surprised if the "courts" (in an expedited manner, violating their own rules and norms) reconsider this issue, and overturn the earlier ruling.

Was going to say "so much winning". But then I remember it's 2024 and much of the country's real norms and institutions are a shambles, if not vaporized completely.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2024 03:20 PM (1m82a)

31 Seems like there's an awful lot of ass-f*cking going on in the waning months of Democrat rule.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2024 03:20 PM (TcVeV)

32 Hawaiian judges should be ignored.

Posted by: mr tmz at December 12, 2024 03:20 PM (rJ48h)

33 the president could fire any presidential appointee, whether they had terms or not.
.......

LOLGF hope he goes all Javier Milei on they ass.

Posted by: wth at December 12, 2024 03:21 PM (v0R5T)

34 Hawaiian judges should be ignored.
Posted by: mr tmz at December 12, 2024 03:20 PM (rJ48h)

According to interwebz influencers they aren't even a state.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2024 03:21 PM (CIS44)

35 Lurch of the Senate (Fettermonster) reportedly announces he's considering running for prez in 2028.

Hilarious.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2024 03:21 PM (1m82a)

36 Chuck Schumer schemed to create a years-long installation of Democrats on the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB)

This is the organization that ruled that Starbucks had to reopen closed stores, if unions were trying to organize those stores.

Posted by: A Hawaiian Judge! at December 12, 2024 03:21 PM (uxCna)

37
What will all these selfless public servants do after they're fired?
Where will they live? How will they feed themselves?

WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN?

Posted by: Auspex at December 12, 2024 03:21 PM (j4U/Z)

38 Fire all the prison guards!

Posted by: P Diddy at December 12, 2024 03:21 PM (iNvVQ)

39 I think Trump simply signs an executive order saying all new hires, appointments, and promotions for the last three months are coming under review. He then systematically deals with the people "burrowing in". Hint: It'll be former appointees who took a pay cut to get a civil service job. Fire anyone matching that profile. Easy peasy.

Posted by: El Mariachi at December 12, 2024 03:22 PM (nLFEI)

40 I saw SaD droopydicks open for Skinny Puppy at The Trocadero in 1990

Posted by: Josephistan at December 12, 2024 03:22 PM (R82fo)

41 Firing is too good for these shitheads. They need to fired ... and then thrown into a giant pit of diarrhea, vomit, and ravenous guinea worms. Face first. Then, after a month in this pit, and if they repent and promise to forever vote GOP in the future, then the guinea worms will be removed.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2024 03:18 PM (iFTx/)

So a typical day in The Barrell

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 12, 2024 03:22 PM (y9nCu)

42 Cue Steam ... Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey, goodbye

Posted by: SMOD at December 12, 2024 03:22 PM (RHGPo)

43 We know the Trump team has some sharp folks... lots of people who know where the bodies are buried.
If they aren't warning IT people right now to preserve records, they're screwing the pooch.
Even an Admin can't delete backup records, if they're elsewhere, right?

Posted by: MkY at December 12, 2024 03:22 PM (cPGH3)

44 Lurch of the Senate (Fettermonster) reportedly announces he's considering running for prez in 2028.

Hilarious.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2024 03:21 PM (1m82a)

Yes, because all world leaders should dress like Zelensky......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 12, 2024 03:22 PM (Zz0t1)

45 The FBI budget should be slashed if they fuck with Patel's appointment.

Posted by: mr tmz at December 12, 2024 03:23 PM (rJ48h)

46 Hawaiian judges should be ignored.
Posted by: mr tmz at December 12, 2024 03:20 PM (rJ48h)

According to interwebz influencers they aren't even a state.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2024 03:21 PM (CIS44)

... or even part of the United States.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 12, 2024 03:23 PM (VNX3d)

47 Cold crow meals make wild crow an endangered species. Will raven do?

Posted by: Deplorable Minion at December 12, 2024 03:23 PM (QSrLX)

48 Can they crawl over field of broken glass first?

We can't force them, but it will be the only way to reach their daily bowl of bread soaked in water.

Posted by: t-bird at December 12, 2024 03:23 PM (zMQny)

49 Kash Patel mentioned in one of his interviews pitching his book, that they should take away their security clearance.
You really can't do much of anything in DC without a security clearance .. even the janitors have them.

Posted by: SMOD at December 12, 2024 03:24 PM (RHGPo)

50 The FBI budget should be slashed if they fuck with Patel's appointment.

Posted by: mr tmz at December 12, 2024 03:23 PM (rJ48h)

It should be slashed if they don't fuck with Patel's appointment.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at December 12, 2024 03:24 PM (FAbrK)

51 Lurch of the Senate (Fettermonster) reportedly announces he's considering running for prez in 2028.

Hilarious.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2024 03:21 PM (1m82a)

Yes, because all world leaders should dress like Zelensky......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 12, 2024 03:22 PM (Zz0t1)

I was thinking along the lines of the lead singer of Disturbed

Posted by: Josephistan at December 12, 2024 03:24 PM (R82fo)

52 I am somewhat, though not entirely, clear on the discretion someone like the FBI Director or a cabinet secretary has in rearranging responsibilities without firing or legislative changes. I think much of this is terra incognita.

But a key question. Rubio and Patel, inter alia, are going to need to make yuuuuge changes in actual responsibilities within their organizations to isolate/neutralize the idiots currently being pushed up the ladder by the current regime.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2024 03:24 PM (1m82a)

53 i usually don't look forward to Januarybut damn if I am not looking forward to 1.20.2025

Posted by: IC - Cope Harder, Liberals at December 12, 2024 03:25 PM (DJ7uY)

54 I get all my clothes from the Us Salvation Army Depot in NYC............

Posted by: Zelinski the Man at December 12, 2024 03:25 PM (7uGna)

55 I am somewhat, though not entirely, clear on the discretion someone like the FBI Director or a cabinet secretary has in rearranging responsibilities without firing or legislative changes. I think much of this is terra incognita.

But a key question. Rubio and Patel, inter alia, are going to need to make yuuuuge changes in actual responsibilities within their organizations to isolate/neutralize the idiots currently being pushed up the ladder by the current regime.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2024 03:24 PM (1m82a)

In line with Loper, show me on this legislation the part that secures your job. no? fired!

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2024 03:25 PM (CIS44)

56 Hawaiian judges should be ignored.
Posted by: mr tmz
......

Except the one at the hula girl contest.

Posted by: wth at December 12, 2024 03:25 PM (v0R5T)

57 The FBI budget should be slashed if they fuck with Patel's appointment.

Posted by: mr tmz at December 12, 2024 03:23 PM (rJ48h)

It should be slashed if they don't fuck with Patel's appointment.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at December 12, 2024 03:24 PM (FAbrK)

True. Budget evisceration should be a given. This is more of a "salt the ground" or "don't salt the ground" type of question.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2024 03:26 PM (TcVeV)

58 whatever team Elon used to audit Twitter when he took it over is who Trump needs to dig into these agencies

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at December 12, 2024 03:26 PM (V6W16)

59 Aaaaaand give them all court dates AFTER the "immigration" appear dates.

Posted by: Deplorable Minion at December 12, 2024 03:26 PM (QSrLX)

60 16 most of them committed crimes but NONE of them have been charged.
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Another Special checkmark to the geniuses who wanted Trump to just blanket pardon "everyone".
Posted by: ... at December 12, 2024 03:17 PM (RyRnV)

You do - you go after the bosses for this, who were not part of the paraders...you can easily pardon all the folks at the protest and all non-governmental employees linked to the protest in some way...that still allows you to go after all the politicians and deep staters...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2024 03:26 PM (exHjb)

61 My anti-Spellcheck rant on the last thread got willowed:

It didn't put a red squiggly line under, so it's fine.
Posted by: Sponge

That's one of the things that really bothers me about Spellcheck.

I was once Christmas shopping for my WWII veteran father-in-law, and found a book I thought he'd like which were the memoirs of a German panzer commander. On the title page it said "Translated form the German by..". At this point I shut the book and put it back on the shelf. I knew my FIL would not countenance that kind of thing in a published work.

But there was no red sqiggle under that "form," so some lazy kid working in the printing house never caught the error.

I don't do without Spellcheck entirely, since it does catch things that the human eye might otherwise miss, but I always make sure to print out the doc and do a proofread of the hard copy as well.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2024 03:26 PM (v6JzV)

62 By the by, the number of people likely to be impacted is relatively small, maybe a few thousand at best.

make it small targeted, and people who are obviously abusing the system. As they sued to say, swing the dead cats around. In fact, don't wait for the news to make up a sob story - for each person removed, state who they are and why you are removing them. I.e. Ms. X was a Biden political appointee. During that time, she did X. The day I won the election, she immediately quit her job, and got hired as a civil service flunky for agency X.

Make it clear to the American people what they are doing and why it is so wrong.

All these people, by the way, will then leave and go to work for NGOs.

Posted by: El Mariachi at December 12, 2024 03:26 PM (nLFEI)

63 Lurch of the Senate (Fettermonster) reportedly announces he's considering running for prez in 2028.

Will the lump be sworn in separately?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 12, 2024 03:26 PM (3xAmh)

64 @#16

26 out of over 1600 is small potatoes. The J6 pardons need to happen fast. Trying to sort out if various people shouldn't be pardoned is a recipe for allowing the process to be obstructed.

Posted by: Christopher B at December 12, 2024 03:27 PM (k0Ojq)

65 Um "et al", not "inter alia". Head cold + medicine = sloppy use of such terms.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2024 03:27 PM (1m82a)

66 Lurch of the Senate (Fettermonster) reportedly announces he's considering running for prez in 2028.

Hilarious.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2024 03:21 PM (1m82a)

Yes, because all world leaders should dress like Zelensky......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 12, 2024 03:22 PM (Zz0t1)

I was thinking along the lines of the lead singer of Disturbed
Posted by: Josephistan at December 12, 2024 03:24 PM (R82fo)

Or Bowser of Sha Na Na

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 12, 2024 03:27 PM (VNX3d)

67 from the ig report:

p 4: "We found no evidence in the materials we reviewed or the testimony we received showing or suggesting that the FBI had undercover employees in the various protest crowds, or at the Capitol, on January 6."

p 5: "We determined that of the 26 CHSs who were in DC on January 6 in connection with the events of January 6, 4 entered the Capitol during the riot; an additional 13 entered the restricted area around the Capitol, which was a security perimeter established in preparation for the January 6 Electoral Certification; and 9 neither entered a restricted area nor entered the Capitol or otherwise engaged in illegal activity. None of the CHSs who entered the Capitol or a restricted area has been prosecuted to date."

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 12, 2024 03:27 PM (CWTWj)

68 19 Krysten Skinemax was an odd gal but she turned and fucked the Democrats hard, Twice.
Posted by: DBCooper at December 12, 2024 03:18 PM (y1Mvi)

Ds are vindicative - see Biden.

They torched her 1st, so she's just getting even...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2024 03:28 PM (exHjb)

69 Lurch of the Senate (Fettermonster) reportedly announces he's considering running for prez in 2028.

Hilarious.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2024 03:21 PM (1m82a)

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Fetterman / Lump 2028 -- Two Clumps of Cells for The Price of One!

Posted by: ShainS -- Deus Ex Muskina [h/t Mike Benz] at December 12, 2024 03:28 PM (xx7I+)

70 Will the lump be sworn in separately?
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism

Lump? What lump?

Posted by: Igor at December 12, 2024 03:28 PM (cPGH3)

71 9 "Spicer said he didn't sue to get the job back -- he sued to get the Democrats to argue that the president could fire whoever he liked. The Democrats did argue that, and won."

They did this will Bill Clinton, too.

For his entire Administration, I argued that morality and character mattered in the presidency. Democrats told me to fuck right off. We weren't electing a priest or a babysitter. We were electing a manager - someone to make sure the economy was amazing.

Fine. You win. Now have President Trump, bitches. Again.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at December 12, 2024 03:15 PM (FAbrK)

That's funny. I had a similar conversation at a Christmas party last Saturday. One of the guests asked me, as a Christian, how I can possibly support Trump for POTUS. I told her that the 'Christian' train left the station when JFK had those multiple affairs in the White House with Dems not batting an eyelash. It went further from the station when Dems were busy defending Bill Clinton. It went even further when America had a chance to elect someone who never drank alcohol or coffee, nor smoked, and had only one wife he's been faithful to for his entire marriage (Romney).

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 12, 2024 03:29 PM (iDXF1)

72 Nick Sortor @nicksortor 2h
🚨 #BREAKING: An Inspector General report has just revealed there were AT LEAST 26 FBI informants on the Capitol grounds on January 6th

At least 3 of them entered the Capitol Building

WE’VE BEEN LIED TO. ACCOUNTABILITY IS COMING!

Leading Report @LeadingReport 34m
BREAKING: FBI had 26 confidential human sources in Washington, D.C., on January 6 in connection with the events of that day.

Of those, 13 entered the restricted area on Capitol Hill during the disturbances, and 4 entered the Capitol itself, according to a DOJ Office of the Inspector General report.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 12, 2024 03:29 PM (hovnC)

73 Leading Report @LeadingReport 3h
BREAKING: Trump says he will look into Jan. 6th pardons early on, “maybe in the first 9 minutes.”

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 12, 2024 03:29 PM (hovnC)

74 So Pennsylvania has 3 senators, counting the Lump? How do they get away with that?

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2024 03:29 PM (v6JzV)

75 So could that NLRB person be fired by Trump anyway under the "he can fire anyone appointed"?

Posted by: Ciampino - Talking of appointments at December 12, 2024 03:30 PM (i0xsb)

76 Spicer said he didn't sue to get the job back -- he sued to get the Democrats to argue that the president could fire whoever he liked. The Democrats did argue that, and won.

Heh. Nice.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2024 03:30 PM (RsS92)

77 Krysten Skinemax was an odd gal but she turned and fucked the Democrats hard, Twice.
Posted by: DBCooper

Where can I get in on some of this action?

Posted by: a. moron. at December 12, 2024 03:30 PM (v0R5T)

78 Head turban - well, top dog - of HTS in Syria is affecting Modified Zelensky look. Though it makes more sense. He's leader of an insurgent rebel outfit, not a head of state who once greeted visiting leaders in a suit and tie, in a formal manner. Still.

I'm gonna call him by his current nom de guerre, al-Golani, since I love the hilarious reference to an area where Israel has just wisely expanded their control.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2024 03:30 PM (1m82a)

79 Apparently, Shumer kept the vote open for 90 minutes for Kamala to come in and break the 49-49 tie. But then Manchin arrived and voted it making it 50-49 against. Stupid question, but how is it that they couldn't get Harris in there to cast a vote for 90 minutes? She's in DC and obviously wasn't doing anything else. Shumer really blew it! And Kamala *hic* ... she must have had shopping, or drinking to do.

Posted by: crabgrass farmer at December 12, 2024 03:31 PM (CTUih)

80 That's funny. I had a similar conversation at a Christmas party last Saturday. One of the guests asked me, as a Christian, how I can possibly support Trump for POTUS. ...

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 12, 2024 03:29 PM (iDXF1)

They really, REALLY don't like it when you point out things like this.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at December 12, 2024 03:31 PM (FAbrK)

81 Will the lump be sworn in separately?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 12, 2024 03:26 PM (3xAmh)

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Horde Mind!

Posted by: ShainS -- Deus Ex Muskina [h/t Mike Benz] at December 12, 2024 03:31 PM (rCC/v)

82 make it small targeted, and people who are obviously abusing the system.

The system is the abuse. Turn entire agencies off and see if we are the poorer after, say, ten years.

Posted by: t-bird at December 12, 2024 03:31 PM (zMQny)

83
35 Lurch of the Senate (Fettermonster) reportedly announces he's considering running for prez in 2028.

Hilarious.
Posted by: rhomboid

Where do I go to sign up and volunteer?

America's second Preznit to have had brain surgery.

Posted by: Auspex at December 12, 2024 03:31 PM (j4U/Z)

84 "67 from the ig report:

p 4: "We found no evidence in the materials we reviewed or the testimony we received showing or suggesting that the FBI had undercover employees in the various protest crowds, or at the Capitol, on January 6.""

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key weasel phrase: "In the materials we received or the testimony we received"

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at December 12, 2024 03:31 PM (V6W16)

85 40 I saw SaD droopydicks open for Skinny Puppy at The Trocadero in 1990

Man, it seems like everyone played the Troc while I was still to young to get in.

Posted by: bensdad00 at December 12, 2024 03:32 PM (F/35S)

86 Leading Report @LeadingReport 3h
BREAKING: Trump says he will look into Jan. 6th pardons early on, “maybe in the first 9 minutes.”
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 12, 2024 03:29 PM (hovnC)

What is he doing to do for the eight minutes beforehand?

Posted by: Josephistan at December 12, 2024 03:32 PM (R82fo)

87 Pennsylvania only has 2 Senators, Lumpy, McCormick coming in soon. Bob Casey going to the unemployment line then

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2024 03:32 PM (fwDg9)

88 BREAKING: Trump says he will look into Jan. 6th pardons early on, “maybe in the first 9 minutes.”
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC)
......

just push the "Easy Button".

Posted by: wth at December 12, 2024 03:32 PM (v0R5T)

89 "The Biden Doctrine

That has a nice ring to it.
Posted by: 2009Refugee "

I prefer the Muntz Doctrine.

Posted by: eleven at December 12, 2024 03:32 PM (iziT8)

90 80 That's funny. I had a similar conversation at a Christmas party last Saturday. One of the guests asked me, as a Christian, how I can possibly support Trump for POTUS. ...

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 12, 2024 03:29 PM (iDXF1)

They really, REALLY don't like it when you point out things like this.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at December 12, 2024 03:31 PM (FAbrK)

Oh, and she really didn't. But she also had nothing to say after that.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 12, 2024 03:33 PM (iDXF1)

91 Field offices were not canvassed, employees were working from home or were on vacation.

NBC News, FBI missed 'basic step' when gathering intel in the lead-up to Jan. 6, DOJ watchdog finds
Investigators found no evidence of undercover FBI employees at the Capitol, but the presence of FBI informants could further fuel right-wing "fedsurrection" conspiracy theories. January 12, 2024

In part, "While the review found "no evidence in the materials we reviewed or the testimony we received showing or suggesting that the FBI had undercover employees in the various protest crowds, or at the Capitol, on January 6," the inspector general's office said that there were 26 confidential human sources in Washington on Jan. 6. None of them were "authorized by the FBI to enter the Capitol or a restricted area or to otherwise break the law on January 6, nor was any CHS directed by the FBI to encourage others to commit illegal acts on January 6," the inspector general said."

Bet there weren't forbidden either.

Posted by: L - Rooster one day, Feather duster another at December 12, 2024 03:33 PM (NFX2v)

92 >> #BREAKING: An Inspector General report has just revealed there were AT LEAST 26 FBI informants on the Capitol grounds on January 6th

Note. This is JUST the FBI.

There were spooks from ALL sorts of Agencies there in addition to the FBI assets.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2024 03:34 PM (j6KoD)

93 re 84: the key word is 'employees' - agencies like the f e by use non employees in plenty of roles. wasn't that the case with the whitmer case?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 12, 2024 03:34 PM (CWTWj)

94 Fire Them All: The Democrats' Manueverings Have Granted Trump the Power to Fire Anywone He Wants
________________

I love stories of sleazy Democrat politicians getting their pee-pees knocked down, especially when they were too stupid to anticipate that their shenanigans could be used against them later.

See, e.g., abandoning the filibuster on judicial appointments. How did that work out for them?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2024 03:34 PM (YqDXo)

95 74 So Pennsylvania has 3 senators, counting the Lump? How do they get away with that?

The lump is an ex-officio member - he serves on committees but has no floor vote.

Posted by: bensdad00 at December 12, 2024 03:34 PM (F/35S)

96 86 Leading Report @LeadingReport 3h
BREAKING: Trump says he will look into Jan. 6th pardons early on, “maybe in the first 9 minutes.”
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 12, 2024 03:29 PM (hovnC)

What is he doing to do for the eight minutes beforehand?

Posted by: Josephistan at December 12, 2024 03:32 PM (R82fo)

Chew bubblegum and kick ass.

Posted by: Rowdy Roddy Piper at December 12, 2024 03:34 PM (F2xQR)

97 I'm not sure the same court would find in Trump's favor.

Oooops... we made a mistake earlier, our bad. Seeing as how the left more or less owns the judiciary... everywhere.

It sorta' seems like this is the way it goes.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 12, 2024 03:34 PM (Q4IgG)

98 Memory Lane: Clay Higgins Accuses FBI's Wray of having buses of agency informants at Capitol on Jan. 6

Christopher Wray walks the line of committing perjury.
https://youtu.be/cKUtVlXweqM

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at December 12, 2024 03:34 PM (e+6P0)

99 BREAKING: Trump says he will look into Jan. 6th pardons early on, “maybe in the first 9 minutes.”
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 12, 2024 03:29 PM (hovnC)
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Even if that is the case, I suspect whomever is charge of the J6 prisoners will slow-walk the process so that they will not be released for at least 4 more years, if ever.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2024 03:34 PM (7fElN)

100 I imagine 8 minutes to sign takingbover the country, then start getting rid of personal

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2024 03:34 PM (fwDg9)

101 If the FBI is admitting to 26, that means there were over 100.

Posted by: Frank Barone at December 12, 2024 03:35 PM (+oR7L)

102
All these people, by the way, will then leave and go to work for NGOs.
Posted by: El Mariachi at December 12, 2024 03:26 PM (nLFEI)

I'm gonna love it when all the NGOs pass on them because none of these shit-heels retained security clearancesl

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 12, 2024 03:35 PM (y9nCu)

103 So Pennsylvania has 3 senators, counting the Lump? How do they get away with that?

The lump is an ex-officio member - he serves on committees but has no floor vote.
Posted by: bensdad00 at December 12, 2024 03:34 PM (F/35S)

Think of Lump/Fetterman like Master Blaster.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2024 03:35 PM (CIS44)

104 It's astonishing that the people to whom we entrust the running of the nation are incapable of thinking just a few steps ahead.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2024 03:14 PM (xCA6C)
_______________

This.

Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander.

Hoist. Petard. Some assembly required.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2024 03:35 PM (YqDXo)

105 re 887: or he'll become a lobbyist or some part of the professional leech class

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 12, 2024 03:35 PM (CWTWj)

106 key weasel phrase: "In the materials we received or the testimony we received"

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything

======

"Employees" is the giveaway. Chuck from the 5th floor, with a dental plan and an annual W2, didn't go shit-stir. But he might have wired money to a guy who knew a guy who knew a guy named Epps.

So it's totes on the level. No employees.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at December 12, 2024 03:35 PM (vX3K6)

107 Oh, and she really didn't. But she also had nothing to say after that.

Did you offer her transgender mutilation so she could take it like a man?

Posted by: t-bird at December 12, 2024 03:35 PM (zMQny)

108 And the FBI [undoubtedly] Paid Informants does not include the Leftist agitators who went disguised as Trump supporters at least to shit-disturb if not outright colluding with the FBI or its Paid Informants.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 12, 2024 03:36 PM (hovnC)

109 Go easy on FBI Director Wray. He's never gotten over the PTSD he experienced from being carried to the top of the Empire State Building by a giant gorilla.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2024 03:36 PM (v6JzV)

110 "Sources within the bureau said Mr. Wray has begun promoting employees among the senior executive service, those who serve within the bureau’s leadership. These sources described this as an effort to burrow establishment figures deeper within the FBI.
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Fire everyone promoted after November 5th.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2024 03:36 PM (YqDXo)

111 What the heck is a visitor board?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2024 03:36 PM (63Dwl)

112 OT: Because my daughter brought home a pumpkin from a neighbor and b/c my husband stopped eating his Tom Yum soup jar from HMart, trying some fusion cuisine tonight with chicken bone broth, water, coconut milk, salt, both of the items, and the immersion blender.

If nothing else, I want to see if I can handle a reduced heat level vs true restaurant Tom Yum/Tom Kha (which I can't handle anymore) and I want to not toss a decently pricey jarred mix. You'd think pumpkin would be both sweet enough and bland enough to chill out the heat level...but we'll see.

Maybe this will become a future Thanksgiving fusion at Thai restaurants - call it "American soup" on the day...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2024 03:36 PM (exHjb)

113 So could that NLRB person be fired by Trump anyway under the "he can fire anyone appointed"?
Posted by: Ciampino - Talking of appointments at December 12, 2024 03:30 PM (i0xsb)

Probably. I'd still like to see an EO directing every federal department and agency to cut 50% of civilian staff, and 100% of contractors, within three months, and assess the effects on performance. Continue each quarter until real effects are seen for US Citizens.

If the wrong positions/people are cut, then any restaffing must be met with corresponding cuts in management who made the decisions on who should be cut.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 12, 2024 03:36 PM (VNX3d)

114 "I hereby declare that the honeymoon is over."

-- Trump at Day 1, minute 8:59

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2024 03:36 PM (TcVeV)

115 Who is in charge of the NSA now?
Aren't they the overarching org that reads and archives everything?
Who are the real gatekeepers there of the data?
Are they civilian or military?
Cause I don't know, but if the answer to the second question is yes, then those computer nerds need to be visited. And soon.

Posted by: MkY at December 12, 2024 03:37 PM (cPGH3)

116 It went even further when America had a chance to elect someone who never drank alcohol or coffee, nor smoked, and had only one wife he's been faithful to for his entire marriage (Romney).

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 12, 2024 03:29 PM (iDXF1)

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Well, everyone knows that Mormans aren't really Christians.

/I keed! I keed!

[Seriously, many of my best friends from childhood though the present are LDS.]

Posted by: ShainS -- Deus Ex Muskina [h/t Mike Benz] at December 12, 2024 03:37 PM (rCC/v)

117 13
‘Can we set up a giant statue of Nelson Muntz in front of FJB's White House and have it play a constant recording of "HA-ha!" on an endless loop?’

It needs to portable so they can transport it to each building and position it out front as they’re marching out the fired employees .

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 12, 2024 03:37 PM (AaGHI)

118 What is he doing to do for the eight minutes beforehand?
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Disinfecting the Oval Office desk and chairs!

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 12, 2024 03:38 PM (hovnC)

119 Democrats are finding out that the dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubed.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 12, 2024 03:38 PM (B9Prs)

120 All these people, by the way, will then leave and go to work for NGOs.
Posted by: El Mariachi at December 12, 2024 03:26 PM (nLFEI)

I'm gonna love it when all the NGOs pass on them because none of these shit-heels retained security clearancesl

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 12, 2024 03:35 PM (y9nCu)
______________

I'm gonna love it when Trump guts all these NGOs.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2024 03:38 PM (YqDXo)

121 What the heck is a visitor board?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

The governing body of the University of Virginia is called the Board of Visitors.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2024 03:38 PM (v6JzV)

122 I love stories of sleazy Democrat politicians getting their pee-pees knocked down, especially when they were too stupid to anticipate that their shenanigans could be used against them later.

See, e.g., abandoning the filibuster on judicial appointments. How did that work out for them?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
======
Leftists believe history is deterministic and that they will triumph as they are on the right side of history versus the deplorables. So any principle to them is expendable now because they will win in the future.

Thus, endless line of rakes to step on when reality frustrates their utopian dreams.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2024 03:38 PM (ctrM5)

123 ‘Can we set up a giant statue of Nelson Muntz in front of FJB's White House and have it play a constant recording of "HA-ha!" on an endless loop?’

It needs to portable so they can transport it to each building and position it out front as they’re marching out the fired employees .
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 12, 2024 03:37 PM (AaGHI)

Maybe Elon can whip up a giant hologram ala RussFest

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2024 03:38 PM (CIS44)

124 119 Democrats are finding out that the dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubed.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 12, 2024 03:38 PM (B9Prs)

-------

hhhhahahahahahahah

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 12, 2024 03:38 PM (jyAD3)

125 What is he doing to do for the eight minutes beforehand?

Probably on the phone stopping the wars in the Ukraine and Syria. "Sorry I'm late. Complicated business."

Posted by: t-bird at December 12, 2024 03:38 PM (zMQny)

126 >>Democrats are finding out that the dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubed.

Well done.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2024 03:38 PM (j6KoD)

127 "It's astonishing that the people to whom we entrust the running of the nation are incapable of thinking just a few steps ahead."

Most of the people serving in senior national security/foreign policy roles in the Clinton/Bambi/Biden years are ridiculously unfit for their jobs, with results to show for it.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2024 03:39 PM (1m82a)

128 Lurch of the Senate (Fettermonster) reportedly announces he's considering running for prez in 2028.

Hilarious.

Is there anyone in DC down to and including the hotel valets who doesn't think he or she should be President?

Posted by: Oddbob at December 12, 2024 03:39 PM (/y8xj)

129 It's astonishing that the people to whom we entrust the running of the nation are incapable of thinking just a few steps ahead.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2024 03:14 PM (xCA6C)

Children don't think ahead, they behave in the moment.

Posted by: davidt at December 12, 2024 03:39 PM (i0F8b)

130 19
‘ Krysten Skinemax was an odd gal but she turned and fucked the Democrats hard, Twice.’

(Imagines)

That sounds kind of nice.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 12, 2024 03:40 PM (AaGHI)

131 What the heck is a visitor board?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

I'm not saying that they're aliens but they're aliens.

Posted by: That Guy who always says that he's not saying that they're aliens but they're aliens at December 12, 2024 03:40 PM (R82fo)

132 Army Ads, peacetime v wartime
youtu.be/QY5WG7ok3Qg

Posted by: gKWVE at December 12, 2024 03:40 PM (gKWVE)

133 Haha
I miss Sean Spicer

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 12, 2024 03:40 PM (Wygan)

134 Are they civilian or military?
Cause I don't know, but if the answer to the second question is yes, then those computer nerds need to be visited. And soon.
Posted by: MkY
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Military runs the NSA. Either a General or an Admiral as the NSA grew out of the old postwar Army Security Agency.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2024 03:40 PM (ctrM5)

135
Fire everyone promoted after November 5th.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

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Yeah that's not exactly stealthy on their part.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at December 12, 2024 03:40 PM (vX3K6)

136 Democrats are finding out that the dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubed.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously

Often, it's covered with rusted barbed wire, and some nasty diseases.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 12, 2024 03:41 PM (VNX3d)

137 What the heck is a visitor board?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2024 03:36 PM (63Dwl)
______________

Many universities - including Harvard - have a Board of Visitors who come to provide independent oversight of the university's operations. They typically interview faculty members privately to ascertain any causes for concern, etc.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2024 03:41 PM (YqDXo)

138 That's funny. I had a similar conversation at a Christmas party last Saturday. One of the guests asked me, as a Christian, how I can possibly support Trump for POTUS. ...

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 12, 2024 03:29 PM (iDXF1)

They really, REALLY don't like it when you point out things like this.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at December 12, 2024 03:31 PM (FAbrK)

Oh, and she really didn't. But she also had nothing to say after that.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 12, 2024 03:33 PM (iDXF1)
_______

I woulda just told her to suck a fat dick. It's been 8 years of these miserable cocksuckers and their endless lying and scheming and Cleveland Steaming to impose oppressive leftwing fascism on this country. So forgive me if I see no need to respond to anything they say with anything other than "suck a fat dick."

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2024 03:41 PM (iFTx/)

139 That's funny. I had a similar conversation at a Christmas party last Saturday. One of the guests asked me, as a Christian, how I can possibly support Trump for POTUS. I told her that the 'Christian' train left the station when JFK had those multiple affairs in the White House with Dems not batting an eyelash. It went further from the station when Dems were busy defending Bill Clinton. It went even further when America had a chance to elect someone who never drank alcohol or coffee, nor smoked, and had only one wife he's been faithful to for his entire marriage (Romney).

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 12, 2024 03:29 PM (iDXF1)

Oooo, good point about Romney. I'll have to remember that one.

Posted by: pookysgirl, learning Lil Pooky's favorite word of "abbvvvuh" at December 12, 2024 03:42 PM (dtlDP)

140 I woulda just told her to suck a fat dick. It's been 8 years of these miserable cocksuckers and their endless lying and scheming and Cleveland Steaming to impose oppressive leftwing fascism on this country. So forgive me if I see no need to respond to anything they say with anything other than "suck a fat dick."
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2024 03:41 PM (iFTx/)

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I would buy you a drink afterwards.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 12, 2024 03:42 PM (jyAD3)

141 When are we supposed to get tired of all the winning?

Posted by: torabora at December 12, 2024 03:42 PM (b6sYu)

142 Harry Reid was warned during the Obamacare debate that he would regret the nuclear option. And that's how we got a conference supreme Court... nominally

Posted by: Roberto at December 12, 2024 03:42 PM (ToKrb)

143 The Board of Visitors typically involves various prominent people, especially prominent academics, to provide oversight and to identify any problems with the university's operations.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2024 03:43 PM (YqDXo)

144 Oops!

Head of the FAA announces he's stepping down next month.

https://tinyurl.com/bdk9fe2m

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 12, 2024 03:43 PM (VNX3d)

145 133 Haha
I miss Sean Spicer
Posted by: vmom
=====
I think he did have a show on Newsmax or one of those other streaming networks. I think Steve Bannon has him on every now and then on War Room.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2024 03:43 PM (ctrM5)

146 p 4: "We found no evidence in the materials we reviewed or the testimony we received showing or suggesting that the FBI had undercover employees in the various protest crowds, or at the Capitol, on January 6.""

----------------------
key weasel phrase: "In the materials we received or the testimony we received"
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at December 12, 2024 03:31 PM (V6W16)

———

Yeah, like the FBI is going to hand out the game plan on a massive entrapment conspiracy.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 12, 2024 03:43 PM (Vh9CX)

147 All government employees in a union should have a choice.
They get a form which says:
A) Union. [ ]
B) Civil Service. [ ]
Pick one.
Pick "union", lose all CS protections. The union gets to argue for you, and you get locked out during any strike.
Pick CS, if you honor a union picket line, you're fired.
Ban government unions from political participation. Ban contributions, including "in kind". Any organizing of "in kind" by union is criminal, with jail sentences. No endorsing candidates, same rules as for charitable orgs.

Posted by: buddhaha at December 12, 2024 03:43 PM (PAcRb)

148 135
Fire everyone promoted after November 5th.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Should read "fire everyone Hired since 2008" (2017-20 excepted)

Posted by: bensdad00 at December 12, 2024 03:43 PM (F/35S)

149 It went even further when America had a chance to elect someone who never drank alcohol or coffee, nor smoked, and had only one wife he's been faithful to for his entire marriage (Romney).

Posted by: Darrell Harris

Given what a snake Romney's turned out to be, I wouldn't be surprised if he's cheated on Anne.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2024 03:43 PM (v6JzV)

150 Gutting the NGOs means ending the ca$hflow, so Congress is involved. Not optimistic much gutting will occur.

Which sort of touches on the CBD fiscal thread this morning that I missed. Trump has never publicly pushed fiscal sanity per se - even though his first few budget submissions first term had modest reductions in them. It's speculative but near certain based on collateral evidence that Trump and his team in term one believed we can grow our way out of our fiscal disaster. Thus the disastrous C19 spending/stimulus.

Bill Proxmire himself would have trouble getting a handle on the fiscal disaster. I have zero expectation that we'll see much improvement there. Growth will reduce the dimensions of the problem a bit, but that's all.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2024 03:43 PM (1m82a)

151 Does this apply to NPR?

Posted by: It's long overdue at December 12, 2024 03:43 PM (DobEs)

152 I can't wait to hear the Democrats Propaganda Ministry cry over Jan6 Ralliers being free

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2024 03:44 PM (fwDg9)

153 How much does a Board of Visitors get paid?

Posted by: davidt at December 12, 2024 03:44 PM (i0F8b)

154 It went even further when America had a chance to elect someone who never drank alcohol or coffee, nor smoked, and had only one wife he's been faithful to for his entire marriage (Romney).

Posted by: Darrell Harris

Given what a snake Romney's turned out to be, I wouldn't be surprised if he's cheated on Anne.
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2024 03:43 PM (v6JzV)

Prly not cheat cheat, he jut did some soaking.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2024 03:44 PM (CIS44)

155 Ryan Routh's Lawyer Indicates Possible Insanity Defense In Trump Assassination Attempt Case

Posted by: SMOD at December 12, 2024 03:44 PM (RHGPo)

156 >>Given what a snake Romney's turned out to be, I wouldn't be surprised if he's cheated on Anne.

More than likely he encouraged Anne to cheat on him and to bring home the proof.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2024 03:44 PM (j6KoD)

157 Nothing will happen.

Posted by: The guy who always sez that at December 12, 2024 03:45 PM (DobEs)

158 That's funny. I had a similar conversation at a Christmas party last Saturday. One of the guests asked me, as a Christian, how I can possibly support Trump for POTUS. I told her that the 'Christian' train left the station when JFK had those multiple affairs in the White House with Dems not batting an eyelash. It went further from the station when Dems were busy defending Bill Clinton. It went even further when America had a chance to elect someone who never drank alcohol or coffee, nor smoked, and had only one wife he's been faithful to for his entire marriage (Romney).

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 12, 2024 03:29 PM (iDXF1)
______________

Great response, but you should include electing and then re-electing a closet Muslim.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2024 03:45 PM (YqDXo)

159 It's insane to allow unions to use union money to support candidates who they are going to by proxy be negotiating contracts with.

Pure insanity.

Posted by: torabora at December 12, 2024 03:46 PM (b6sYu)

160 The government now admits that the FBI had 26 Confidential Human Sources at the Capitol on January 6th and most of them committed crimes but NONE of them have been charged.

Note that this is just the CHS-s
It doesn't include the non-uniformed FBI

Posted by: SMOD at December 12, 2024 03:46 PM (RHGPo)

161 Suck all dick

Rank

Serial number.

This is in the Gweenda Conventions.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at December 12, 2024 03:47 PM (SPm+G)

162 Super Mario Brother pleaded not guilty to murdering the CEO. What's his defense? That it wasn't him? Serious question.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2024 03:47 PM (iFTx/)

163 69 Lurch of the Senate (Fettermonster) reportedly announces he's considering running for prez in 2028.

Hilarious.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2024 03:21 PM (1m82a)
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So which one will be President and which will be Vice President,
Fetter or the Lump?

Posted by: Ciampino - Talking of POTUS appointments at December 12, 2024 03:47 PM (i0xsb)

164 Great response, but you should include electing and then re-electing a closet Muslim.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2024 03:45 PM (YqDXo
****
...a cock curious muslim...

Posted by: torabora at December 12, 2024 03:48 PM (b6sYu)

165 "Sorry, I just got to rummage in my bag of dicks... nah, you can have 'em all"

Posted by: gKWVE at December 12, 2024 03:48 PM (gKWVE)

166 It appears that the Dems have, in their attempt to seal their political ascendancy for the thousand years, have instead created the conditions to re-instate the spoils system.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2024 03:48 PM (D7oie)

167 How much does a Board of Visitors get paid?

Posted by: davidt at December 12, 2024 03:44 PM (i0F8b)
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No idea. Usually the Board of Visitors is unique to each department, so the physics department board would have prominent physicists, etc. and they typically only spend a day or two in the department. So if I had to guess, it'd be ~$10-20 K. After all, these are prominent, busy people.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2024 03:48 PM (YqDXo)

168 So which one will be President and which will be Vice President,
Fetter or the Lump?
Posted by: Ciampino - Talking of POTUS appointments at December 12, 2024 03:47 PM (i0xsb)

Which one gets AF2?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 12, 2024 03:48 PM (VNX3d)

169 >> "Sorry, I just got to rummage in my bag of dicks... nah, you can have 'em all"

"I'd offer you a bag of dicks to suck...but, clearly you are a family bucket kinda gal."

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2024 03:49 PM (j6KoD)

170 It appears that the Dems have, in their attempt to seal their political ascendancy for the thousand years
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Now remind me who else was trying to seal political ascendancy for a thousand years?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2024 03:49 PM (YqDXo)

171 S a D, droopydicks

Stand and Deliver?

Stop and Drop?

Shuck and Djive?

Posted by: far cry at December 12, 2024 03:49 PM (kI/zw)

172 113 So could that NLRB person be fired by Trump anyway under the "he can fire anyone appointed"?
Posted by: Ciampino

The old ruling precedent was that firing someone on an adjudicative boards like the FTC, FCC, NLRB is US v. Humphrey's Executor in the 30's and reiterated by the Court during the fifties in Weiner v. US. That requires a president to fire only for cause if the office is primarily quasi judicial or quasi legislative such as regulatory agencies.

Neither ruling prevented a president from firing officeholders from primarily managerial or political positions without cause like the FBI director or that of the CIA. See Myers v. US.

A string of recent Scotus decisions have substantially undercut the older Humphreys and Weiner precedents such as the 2021 decision above by the DC Circuit Court of Appeals. .

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2024 03:50 PM (ctrM5)

173 69 Lurch of the Senate (Fettermonster) reportedly announces he's considering running for prez in 2028.

Hilarious.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2024 03:21 PM (1m82a)
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This just in: Rachel "Rocky" Levine and Sam Brinton are also considering running for President as a ticket.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2024 03:51 PM (YqDXo)

174 @37/Auspex: "WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN?"

Good point. Don't forget to fire them too.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 12, 2024 03:51 PM (O7YUW)

175 $20. Same as in town.

Posted by: Rimshot at December 12, 2024 03:51 PM (DobEs)

176 73 Leading Report @LeadingReport 3h
BREAKING: Trump says he will look into Jan. 6th pardons early on, “maybe in the first 9 minutes.”
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 12, 2024 03:29 PM (hovnC)

I think many of those J-6ers have been held longer now than the "Japanese Americans" interned in WW2.

Posted by: Rex B at December 12, 2024 03:51 PM (3Mf2F)

177 The government now admits that the FBI had 26 Confidential Human Sources at the Capitol on January 6th and most of them committed crimes but NONE of them have been charged.
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There was an article linked here recently with a photo I hadn't seen before. Two masked people pushing an older man holding a flag into the barricades and cops. They were furious but not interested in the cops.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - society needs the pejorative faggot, so the term sassy is now used at December 12, 2024 03:52 PM (AulG1)

178 Note that this is just the CHS-s
It doesn't include the non-uniformed FBI
Posted by: SMOD at December 12, 2024 03:46 PM (RHGPo
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All FBI agents are lawyers and they are bound by their professional rules of ethical conduct to report to their Bar associations their knowing trespassing on the law.

I crack myself up.

Posted by: torabora at December 12, 2024 03:52 PM (b6sYu)

179 166 It appears that the Dems have, in their attempt to seal their political ascendancy for the thousand years, have instead created the conditions to re-instate the spoils system.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2024 03:48 PM (D7oie)

I'm so glad someone finally brought that up. We'd be better off if we had a hybrid Spoils System. Everyone who wants to work in gov't has to take a Civil Service exam - and not an easy one, either. Then, the spoils system will allow for all political or political-adjacent hires to be fired with a new administration. The whole lot stays as long as the party in power does.

The spoils system was pitched a such a bad thing back when I went to HS, but this new system where the bad apples are entrenched under the umbrella of 'non partiality' has run its course.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 12, 2024 03:52 PM (iDXF1)

180 Trump the Power to Fire Anywone He Wants

Trebuchet?
The Mexi-Cannon is going to be busy.

Posted by: DaveA at December 12, 2024 03:53 PM (FhXTo)

181 Oops!

Head of the FAA announces he's stepping down next month.

https://tinyurl.com/bdk9fe2m

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 12, 2024 03:43 PM (VNX3d)
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Will he be taking all those DEI and mentally-handicapped ATCs with him?

We can only hope.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2024 03:53 PM (YqDXo)

182
"Tony Blinken Tells Congress ‘No One Anticipated’ Taliban Takeover."

So the Biden Preznitcy ends as a Monty Python skit.

Posted by: Auspex at December 12, 2024 03:53 PM (j4U/Z)

183 Is there anyone in DC down to and including the hotel valets who doesn't think he or she should be President?
Posted by: Oddbob at December 12, 2024 03:39 PM (/y8xj)

I am awaiting the Dem Primary debate between Fetterman and AOC.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2024 03:53 PM (D7oie)

184 >All FBI agents are lawyers
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no they're not

Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2024 03:53 PM (/7KEl)

185 Heh heh heh I am awaiting the bloodbath that is coming with firings.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 12, 2024 03:53 PM (4q/mG)

186 Everyone who wants to work in gov't has to take a Civil Service exam - and not an easy one, either. Then, the spoils
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Ha. I'm betting the majority of government employees struggle to read.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - society needs the pejorative faggot, so the term sassy is now used at December 12, 2024 03:54 PM (AulG1)

187 All this firing reminds me that the news wants me
To care about all the movie stars in Malibu whose homes are burning.

I would hazard a guess that anyone who lives in Malibu has at least one other residence.

And how much do you want to bet the billions flow freely to CA while Maui and Asheville still smolder.

Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at December 12, 2024 03:54 PM (nm+1f)

188 I want the 2028 Republican to face off against Bernie.

Posted by: torabora at December 12, 2024 03:54 PM (b6sYu)

189 Does this apply to NPR?

Posted by: It's long overdue at December 12, 2024 03:43 PM (DobEs)
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Raus mit NPR!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2024 03:54 PM (YqDXo)

190 15 Chuck Schumer needs a bus induced coma.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 12, 2024 03:17 PM

HEY!!!!! That is my Senator!!!

And I agree with your remark. ;-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 12, 2024 03:55 PM (4q/mG)

191 166 It appears that the Dems have, in their attempt to seal their political ascendancy for the thousand years, have instead created the conditions to re-instate the spoils system.
Posted by: Kindltot

Effectively we have had one since the 1930's where Democrats ended up controlling most bureaucratic hires from 1932-1952. Neither Nixon nor Ike were willing to fight the Democrat Congresses of their day over personnel. Only Reagan really took an interest but by then the blob had too entrenched position in the bureaucracy for his appointees to overcome. Bush and his son returned to the ignoring personnel matters and Obama/Biden turned that Democratic dominance into a racially charged bureaucracy that is malignant.

So, spoils system it is and arguably that is far more accountable than the current malignant cancer of the 4th Branch and their associates in Congress and K street lobbyists.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2024 03:55 PM (ctrM5)

192 Oh man, reminding the Democrats in Asheville that the billionaires in Maui need their support would be hilarious.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - society needs the pejorative faggot, so the term sassy is now used at December 12, 2024 03:55 PM (AulG1)

193 I want the names of the Patriot Front douches and their manager. Then parade them naked, in red high heels, past the White House before shipping them off to Gitmo. Actually, I think Wray should lead the parade with Garland playing the kazoo.

Posted by: Beartooth at December 12, 2024 03:55 PM (WuJwx)

194 Head of the FAA announces he's stepping down next month.

https://tinyurl.com/bdk9fe2m

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 12, 2024 03:43 PM (VNX3d)
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Will he be taking all those DEI and mentally-handicapped ATCs with him?

We can only hope.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2024 03:53 PM (YqDXo)

I think it's more because of the red tape added for SpaceX, and in fear of what Elon Musk and DOGE might do.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 12, 2024 03:55 PM (VNX3d)

195 The judges will apply the "because Trump" clause

Posted by: steevy at December 12, 2024 03:55 PM (KQk9m)

196 >> All this firing reminds me that the news wants me
To care about all the movie stars in Malibu whose homes are burning.

Fire is an essential part of the Southern California Ecosystem.

They should have learned that in the 4th or 5th Grade.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2024 03:55 PM (j6KoD)

197 I asked ChatGPT to write the 4,352 letters, and have had to refill the ink tanks fourteen times since the HP started cooking.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at December 12, 2024 03:55 PM (KiBMU)

198 Malibu, not Maui, but you knew that.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - society needs the pejorative faggot, so the term sassy is now used at December 12, 2024 03:56 PM (AulG1)

199 The J6ers should get reparations as well as pardons.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2024 03:56 PM (v6JzV)

200 What would you say you do here?

Posted by: Elon and Vivek at December 12, 2024 03:56 PM (v0R5T)

201 Chuck Schumer needs a bus induced coma.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 12, 2024 03:17 PM

HEY!!!!! That is my Senator!!!

And I agree with your remark. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 12, 2024 03:55 PM (4q/mG)

Just make him eat food he's grilled, plastic wrap and all.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 12, 2024 03:56 PM (VNX3d)

202 Given what a snake Romney's turned out to be, I wouldn't be surprised if he's cheated on Anne.

It wasn't cheating, it was temporary sister wives

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2024 03:56 PM (RsS92)

203 "Tony Blinken Tells Congress ‘No One Anticipated’ Taliban Takeover."

All those Dissent Cables his staff were sending him would suggest fucking everyone anticipated the Taliban takeover...

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at December 12, 2024 03:56 PM (FAbrK)

204 I want Trump to replace ALL the appointees the law will allow

Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2024 03:57 PM (/7KEl)

205 All FBI agents are lawyers
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no they're not
Posted by: Don Black

Dana Scully was an MD.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2024 03:57 PM (v6JzV)

206 It really does feel like there's been a fundamental sea change recently against leftist lunacy. Some of the Euros having second thoughts about unfettered immigration and other leftist policies, leftist Euro governments collapsing, Argentina electing Milei who has taken a chainsaw to the bureaucracy, Trump getting re-elected, the wailing and gnashing of teeth amongst the Democrats ... all things to be grateful for.

The era of lunacy is apparently drawing to a close.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2024 03:58 PM (YqDXo)

207 I want Trump to replace ALL the appointees the law will allow
Posted by: Don Black

"You worked for Biden" should be reason enough.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 12, 2024 03:58 PM (WXNFJ)

208 The spoils system was pitched a such a bad thing back when I went to HS, but this new system where the bad apples are entrenched under the umbrella of 'non partiality' has run its course.
Posted by: Darrell Harris

Most of the bad effects were overstated. There was the normal grifting types and it became a nuisance for presidents like Lincoln to deal with the swarms of office seekers. But, presidents that cared could administer their own political programs and the opposition was in open via Congress for the most part, not from their own executive department.

Politically, it was the stench from teh Grant administration and Guiteau's assassination of Garfield that led Chet Arthur to create the limited Civil Service. Over time, the limits were overthrown and we get the mandarin class as UK has struggled against for several centuries now.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2024 03:58 PM (ctrM5)

209 >>"Tony Blinken Tells Congress ‘No One Anticipated’ Taliban Takeover."

Did you maybe try asking the Afghans that were clinging to the Landing Gear?

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2024 03:59 PM (j6KoD)

210 Didn't Eisenhower have his side piece living in the WH with him?

Posted by: steevy at December 12, 2024 03:59 PM (KQk9m)

211 Head of the FAA announces he's stepping down next month.

https://tinyurl.com/bdk9fe2m

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 12, 2024 03:43 PM (VNX3d)
_____________

Will he be taking all those DEI and mentally-handicapped ATCs with him?

We can only hope.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2024 03:53 PM (YqDXo)
***

United 277, turn right to heading 410.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2024 03:59 PM (W/lyH)

212 Effectively we have had one since the 1930's where Democrats ended up controlling most bureaucratic hires from 1932-1952. Neither Nixon nor Ike were willing to fight the Democrat Congresses of their day over personnel. Only Reagan really took an interest but by then the blob had too entrenched position in the bureaucracy for his appointees to overcome. Bush and his son returned to the ignoring personnel matters and Obama/Biden turned that Democratic dominance into a racially charged bureaucracy that is malignant.

So, spoils system it is and arguably that is far more accountable than the current malignant cancer of the 4th Branch and their associates in Congress and K street lobbyists.
Posted by: whig at December 12, 2024 03:55 PM (ctrM5)

I really want to like President Ike, but the fact that he didn't do anything to roll back the New Deal is a big, big negative in my book. He was the only one who could have gotten away with it, and we're living with its consequences to this day.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 12, 2024 03:59 PM (iDXF1)

213 The era of lunacy is apparently drawing to a close.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Perhaps but it's excesses and failures will be forgotten. They always are. . .

Posted by: Tonypete at December 12, 2024 03:59 PM (WXNFJ)

214 Malibu, not Maui, but you knew that.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - society needs the pejorative faggot, so the term sassy is now used at December 12, 2024 03:56 PM (AulG1)
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I think the reference was to the fire on Maui, where the Feds did f-all in response.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2024 03:59 PM (YqDXo)

215 United Fo Fiddy, is you is or is you ain't on headin tree foty?

Posted by: DEI Air Traffic Controller at December 12, 2024 04:00 PM (2UnvF)

216 199 The J6ers should get reparations as well as pardons.
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2024 03:56 PM

All reparations should be paid for from the personal accounts of the J6 Committee, and the prosecutors and judges that tried and sentenced them.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 12, 2024 04:00 PM (4q/mG)

217 Secret Service agent shoots from 5 feet and misses. Are they hiring imperial stormtroopers now?

Posted by: Ron at December 12, 2024 04:00 PM (KDtr3)

218 >>"Tony Blinken Tells Congress ‘No One Anticipated’ Taliban Takeover."

Then it was much like the Spanish Inquisition.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2024 04:01 PM (TcVeV)

219 Elizabeth Warren Backpedals as Her 'Vile' Comments About CEO Murder Called 'Moral Rot of the Left'

“Violence is never the answer … but you can only push people so far, and then they take matters into their own hands.”

Posted by: SMOD at December 12, 2024 04:01 PM (RHGPo)

220 Julie Kelly @julie_kelly2 2h
Reading DOJ IG report now. It is incomplete as expected--lots of work for @Kash_Patel --but it completely contradicts Chris Wray's claims about intelligence pre-Jan 6 and use of informants before and on Jan 6.

This is why he resigned--as I speculated yesterday.

Vivek Ramaswamy @VivekGRamaswamy 1h
If you uttered the facts in this IG report last year, you were labeled a “conspiracy theorist.” It’s also notable that the IG report came out literally the day after Christopher Wray resigned.

Elon Musk @elonmusk 1h
Wow

US @FreeStateWill 1h
This IG report that claims only 26 informants and no undercover agents (when we have already identified FBI agents in the crowd at the Capitol) comes off as an attempt to defuse a future investigation by giving a partial concession. Not good enough! We need a full autopsy of J6!

Benny Johnson @bennyjohnson 49m
🚨BREAKING: January 6th Committee Chairman Bennie Thompson says he would accept a pardon from President Biden if it were offered, according to The Hill.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 12, 2024 04:01 PM (hovnC)

221 I bet Kyrsten Sinema has cured many a sad droopy dick.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 12, 2024 04:01 PM (/U5Yz)

222 Head of the FAA announces he's stepping down next month.

https://tinyurl.com/bdk9fe2m

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 12, 2024 03:43 PM (VNX3d)
_____________

Will he be taking all those DEI and mentally-handicapped ATCs with him?

We can only hope.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2024 03:53 PM (YqDXo)
***

United 277, turn right to heading 410.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2024 03:59 PM (W/lyH)
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DEI ATC: "Or is that United 410, turning right to 277? I dunno. Give it a shot and see what happens."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2024 04:01 PM (YqDXo)

223 Secret Service agent shoots from 5 feet and misses. Are they hiring imperial stormtroopers now?
Posted by: Ron at December 12, 2024 04:00 PM (KDtr3)

Imperial Stormtroopers tried to get hired, but scored too high on accuracy.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 12, 2024 04:01 PM (VNX3d)

224 >>"Tony Blinken Tells Congress ‘No One Anticipated’ Taliban Takeover."

This strikes me as rising to the "sloped roof" level of stupid government excuses.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2024 04:02 PM (TcVeV)

225 I'm sure Politico will say "well they weren't agents" just informants. Of course until Kash gets in and says there were agents at which point Politico will say "there were only a few and just observing". When it turns out there were a lot Politico will say "they were trying to prevent even worse violence" and so on , and so on ...

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2024 04:02 PM (YO1Vi)

226 I really want to like President Ike, but the fact that he didn't do anything to roll back the New Deal is a big, big negative in my book. He was the only one who could have gotten away with it, and we're living with its consequences to this day.
Posted by: Darrell Harris

From what I've read, if Robert Taft had lived, he could have made Ike do it.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2024 04:02 PM (v6JzV)

227 BREAKING: January 6th Committee Chairman Bennie Thompson says he would accept a pardon from President Biden if it were offered, according to The Hill.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 12, 2024 04:01 PM (hovnC)
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Subtle, but effective, hint.

Nervous much, Bennie?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2024 04:02 PM (YqDXo)

228 217 Secret Service agent shoots from 5 feet and misses. Are they hiring imperial stormtroopers now?

I once heard this stat that two people 10 feet apart shooting 6 shots from a handgun at each other have a 10% chance of being hit

Posted by: SMOD at December 12, 2024 04:02 PM (RHGPo)

229 >United Fo Fiddy, is you is or is you ain't on headin tree foty?

Ayo man, dis yo Cap'n speakin, uhh send that thicc azz flight attendant back up here with that drink cart, aight?

Uhh tree foty, what say again?

Posted by: DEI Flight Captain at December 12, 2024 04:03 PM (jQ9Yk)

230 "Tony Blinken Tells Congress ‘No One Anticipated’ Taliban Takeover."

All those Dissent Cables his staff were sending him would suggest fucking everyone anticipated the Taliban takeover...
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at December 12, 2024 03:56 PM (FAbrK)

a surprising number of the Taliban had brand new uniforms with the creases still in them. I wonder where they came from.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2024 04:03 PM (D7oie)

231 5 It's astonishing that the people to whom we entrust the running of the nation are incapable of thinking just a few steps ahead.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2024 03:14 PM (xCA6C)
________________________________

It is, isn't it? Unfortunately, it's also how they approach economics. They see the big fat photo op attached to some bulbous economic apparatus bill (such as the ill-named Inflation Reduction Act)...and refuse to apply their nerve endings in their brains to consider just what an influx of currency will do to the actual inflation the day after that photo op.

I guess it's because Wash DC did away with "repercussions" years ago.

On a positive note, however, is the fact that these same idiots who lack any competent form of critical thinking are mystified when their world falls down on top of them and someone like Trump shows up, scratches his chin and thinks: Hmmm. Increase drilling and refining. Fuel costs dip. Transport and Distribution costs go down. Retail costs go down, and competition ramps up due to increased consumer confidence. People buy, invest, apply venture capital. etc...while Obama is implying the previous was the new norm.

Posted by: Orson at December 12, 2024 04:03 PM (dIske)

232 Does it ever occur to any of the genius "Resistance" assholes that maybe they should just cooperate and see what happens?

I mean they can't all be happy with things and it's not like they are paragons of virtue.

Some what like Trumps appeal to Blacks, "What have you got to lose?"

Because the way things were going they were headed for a catastrophe. Why can't they see this. The vast majority of the US population will never submit to being Subjects.

These young people all googly-eyed about Communism will get over it when they grow up poorer than their parents.

This assumes that they are normies and not mentally ill but driving everyone bat-shit crazy might be part of the plan.

Posted by: pawn, RIP Vic at December 12, 2024 04:04 PM (QB+5g)

233 "Tony Blinken Tells Congress ‘No One Anticipated’ Taliban Takeover."
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Then he - and the entire IC - was incompetent. Hank Johnson probably anticipated a Taliban takeover.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2024 04:04 PM (YqDXo)

234 I don't think Eisenhower had political convictions. He spent his life in the at the time very apolitical Army. His VP was very much a big government Republican in Nixon.

Posted by: steevy at December 12, 2024 04:04 PM (KQk9m)

235 Benny Johnson @bennyjohnson 49m
🚨BREAKING: January 6th Committee Chairman Bennie Thompson says he would accept a pardon from President Biden if it were offered, according to The Hill.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 12, 2024 04:01 PM (hovnC)

Go ahead and pardon them all, if you want. We'll still have Kash investigate what was done and inform the American public. It'll make the Dem name radioactive for years and years.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 12, 2024 04:04 PM (iDXF1)

236 All reparations should be paid for from the personal accounts of the J6 Committee, and the prosecutors and judges that tried and sentenced them.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude

And Pelosi's ill-gotten, insider-trading stock gains.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2024 04:04 PM (v6JzV)

237 Spicer said he didn't sue to get the job back -- he sued to get the Democrats to argue that the president could fire whoever he liked. The Democrats did argue that, and won.

And now Trump owns the precedent.

-------

If that was really Spicer's motive, and it probably was, given the trivial nature of the position at stake, then good on him.

It's a nifty parlor trick. But it won't move the judiciary. They can't get shook as easily as Congressfags. This'll be another thing where they say the precedent was for Muh Justicez, and in this case, the orange colored emanations from the fascist penumbras are deflected by the Hawaiian Fortifications of Sacred Democracy, as established by the Living Documents of Freedom and Muh Justicez.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 12, 2024 04:04 PM (BI5O2)

238 "Tony Blinken Tells Congress ‘No One Anticipated’ Taliban Takeover."
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Then he - and the entire IC - was incompetent. Hank Johnson probably anticipated a Taliban takeover.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2024 04:04 PM (YqDXo)

Either that, or Afghanistan flipping over when we left.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 12, 2024 04:04 PM (VNX3d)

239 I want the names of the Patriot Front douches and their manager. Then parade them naked, in red high heels, past the White House before shipping them off to Gitmo. Actually, I think Wray should lead the parade with Garland playing the kazoo.
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Julie Kelly @julie_kelly2 53m
My report from last year documents the movements of an FBI informant in the Proud Boys.

Jones committed numerous crimes but was never charged. The feds then moved him to the Patriot Front

declassified.live/p/who-is-m… [paywalled]

Who is Michael Jones?: FBI Informant Planted in Proud Boys Caught on Tape on January 6
Instead of serving time in prison for felony convictions, Jones is part of the so-called "white supremacy" movement. He also reportedly is a fed.

declassified.live

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 12, 2024 04:05 PM (hovnC)

240 Violence is never the answer … but you can only push people so far, and then they take matters into their own hands.”
Posted by: SMOD at December 12, 2024 04

This murderous piece of trash needs to be publicly executed in a truly gruesome fashion, gruesome enough that David French cries.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at December 12, 2024 04:05 PM (kTd/k)

241 It's astonishing that the people to whom we entrust the running of the nation are incapable of thinking just a few steps ahead.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2024 03:14 PM (xCA6C)
________________________________

It is, isn't it? Unfortunately, it's also how they approach economics. They see the big fat photo op attached to some bulbous economic apparatus bill (such as the ill-named Inflation Reduction Act)...and refuse to apply their nerve endings in their brains to consider just what an influx of currency will do to the actual inflation the day after that photo op.
_______________

Considering potential unintended consequences be rayciss, yo.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2024 04:05 PM (YqDXo)

242 What a beautiful article for my morning coffee.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 12, 2024 04:05 PM (9oFPr)

243 >> in a truly gruesome fashion, gruesome enough that David French cries.

Call Me.

Posted by: Mrs David French at December 12, 2024 04:06 PM (j6KoD)

244 America had a chance to elect someone who never drank alcohol or coffee, nor smoked, and had only one wife he's been faithful to for his entire marriage (Romney).

That's a combination I would not trust in a leader.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 12, 2024 04:06 PM (KAi1n)

245 Imagine that.

Posted by: Deplorable Minion at December 12, 2024 04:06 PM (QSrLX)

246 Most appointments should leave Jan19, out of the country preferred

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2024 04:06 PM (fwDg9)

247 This murderous piece of trash needs to be publicly executed in a truly gruesome fashion, gruesome enough that David French cries.
Posted by: Northernlurker

Low bar there. He cries with joy watching the bulls rogering his wife.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2024 04:06 PM (v6JzV)

248 What right wing organization would you se the term "front" , so heavily assault coated with communism

Posted by: steevy at December 12, 2024 04:07 PM (KQk9m)

249 Oh, and btw, regarding the spoils system. The reason that Andrew Jackson ended the gentlemen's agreement where aides and officeholders from the prior regime often were kept on is that the Federalist party never challenged for the presidency after 1800 and that virtually all of the Democrat appointees afterward were picked by the Congressional Caucus of the Dems up to JQ Adams. It was uniparty control of the small bureaucracy up until Jackson with a definite skew to the monied interests being represented over the deplorable classes.

The whole genteel political regime from 1796 to 1828 was disrupted when Andy Jackson came to town and this coincided with the tremendous increase and democratization of voting rolls to universal male suffrage (aside from blacks in the South). Lots of underlying conflict in state legislative and gubernatorial races over redistricting state and US Congress districts as representation was very uneven depending on where you lived within a state.

Worst in the original Southern colonies and in states such as Georgia, Virginia, and North Carolina--it often became the planters in the old areas of the state versus those newer settlements.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2024 04:07 PM (ctrM5)

250 "Tony Blinken Tells Congress ‘No One Anticipated’ Taliban Takeover."
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Then he - and the entire IC - was incompetent. Hank Johnson probably anticipated a Taliban takeover.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2024 04:04 PM (YqDXo)

Either that, or Afghanistan flipping over when we left.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 12, 2024 04:04 PM (VNX3d)
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Let's see, we've got the Taliban here, kept in check by American forces, I wonder what will happen when we pull out the American forces? Must think, must think...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2024 04:07 PM (YqDXo)

251 Heavily associated

Posted by: steevy at December 12, 2024 04:08 PM (KQk9m)

252 Tony Blinken Tells Congress ‘No One Anticipated’ Taliban Takeover.

I did not anticipate this bruise on my foot when I kicked the statue. I did not anticipate this hole in my head from playing Russian Roulette. I did not anticipate this pregnancy from having sex.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2024 04:08 PM (RsS92)

253 All FBI agents are lawyers
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no they're not
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Dana Scully was an MD.

When I was in Jr. College, they came around recruiting people to be COBOL programmers but (supposedly) anyone who joined would have to be qualified as a field agent. No, I did not apply.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 12, 2024 04:08 PM (/y8xj)

254 The FBI employees a temporary, on-call workforce, like FEMA?

FEMA calls theirs Reservists. What are the FBI's various, employee temp units called? Heh.

Posted by: L - Rooster one day, Feather duster another at December 12, 2024 04:08 PM (NFX2v)

255 210 Didn't Eisenhower have his side piece living in the WH with him?
Posted by: steevy

Eisenhower's 'side-piece' was Kate Sommersby, his British driver while he was serving in England up to the invasion.

Senator Arthur Vandenburg, a pre-war isolationist, also had and English side-piece during the war in Washington, where he became, suddenly, an anglophile internationalist.

Both women were employed by British intelligence.

Posted by: Auspex at December 12, 2024 04:08 PM (j4U/Z)

256 "The era of lunacy is apparently drawing to a close."

That's crazy!

Posted by: pawn, RIP Vic at December 12, 2024 04:08 PM (QB+5g)

257 his murderous piece of trash needs to be publicly executed in a truly gruesome fashion, gruesome enough that David French cries.
Posted by: Northernlurker

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Put of tempest for Liawatha's heritage, we could use some Iroquois or comanche techniques.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at December 12, 2024 04:08 PM (vX3K6)

258 >>Let's see, we've got the Taliban here, kept in check by American forces, I wonder what will happen when we pull out the American forces? Must think, must think...

What is we left ALL the Weapons and Gear behind?

Surely they would be too busy playing with it to even bother trying to assert power over the populus. Right?

Posted by: Mrs David French at December 12, 2024 04:09 PM (j6KoD)

259 Posted by: DEI Flight Captain at December 12, 2024 04:03 PM (jQ9Yk)

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Is you def, muthafuka? I said tree foty! Best turn yo ass or you gone get dead!

Posted by: DEI Air Traffic Controller at December 12, 2024 04:09 PM (2UnvF)

260 What right wing organization would you se the term "front" , so heavily assault coated with communism

Posted by: steevy at December 12, 2024 04:07 PM (KQk9m)
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Yep. Remember when ~~leftists communists socialists~~ Democrat journos called for creating a "Popular Front?"

Now where have we heard that expression before?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2024 04:09 PM (YqDXo)

261 Posted by: whig

Have you ever written a book? You have an awful lot of knowledge regarding history and politics.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2024 04:09 PM (v6JzV)

262 ***Sens. Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin, blocked the nomination from advancing.***
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This is a first. They took a stand with Republicans against their Party. It was an American thing to do. Thank you both.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 12, 2024 04:09 PM (9oFPr)

263 his murderous piece of trash needs to be publicly executed in a truly gruesome fashion,

Say, gas?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 12, 2024 04:10 PM (DH2tQ)

264 255 I am aware

Posted by: steevy at December 12, 2024 04:10 PM (KQk9m)

265 241 It's astonishing that the people to whom we entrust the running of the nation are incapable of thinking just a few steps ahead.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2024 03:14 PM (xCA6C)
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It is, isn't it? Unfortunately, it's also how they approach economics. They see the big fat photo op attached to some bulbous economic apparatus bill (such as the ill-named Inflation Reduction Act)...and refuse to apply their nerve endings in their brains to consider just what an influx of currency will do to the actual inflation the day after that photo op.
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Considering potential unintended consequences be rayciss, yo.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2024 04:05 PM (YqDXo)

Unfortunately, this incompetence is built into the system. Congresscritters are hired to pass laws, not eliminate bad ones. Productivity is measured in how much legislation is passed, rather than whether things actually run well. That's why conservative legislators are always on the back-foot - their principles (in theory) run counter to what the people hired them to do. Unless the incentives are changed, the results will not be.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 12, 2024 04:10 PM (iDXF1)

266 The Brits knew how to get their interests served..

Posted by: steevy at December 12, 2024 04:10 PM (KQk9m)

267 sockOFF

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2024 04:10 PM (j6KoD)

268 No, they're not all lawyers.

Are all FBI agents lawyers or accountants?
The FBI seeks special agents with any occupation that requires a college degree. Specifically, we look for expertise in physical science, computer science, engineering, architecture, law, accounting, and other disciplines that require logical analysis and critical thinking.

Posted by: L - Rooster one day, Feather duster another at December 12, 2024 04:10 PM (NFX2v)

269 >>Let's see, we've got the Taliban here, kept in check by American forces, I wonder what will happen when we pull out the American forces? Must think, must think...

What is we left ALL the Weapons and Gear behind?

Surely they would be too busy playing with it to even bother trying to assert power over the populus. Right?

Posted by: Mrs David French at December 12, 2024 04:09 PM (j6KoD)
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Blinken: "I thought that they'd spend their time invoking DEI and choosing their pronouns. Who knew that they'd take over the country by force?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2024 04:11 PM (YqDXo)

270 .
NOOD

IG Report on January 6th Admits That Fed Agents Entered the Capitol, But Denies That the FBI Urged Them to Commit Illegal Acts or Encourage Others to Commit Illegal Acts

NOOD!

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 12, 2024 04:11 PM (O7YUW)

271 255 I am aware
Posted by: steevy

What generation do you belong to?

My son is Gen Z and frequently uses "I'm aware" to mean "I know."

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2024 04:11 PM (v6JzV)

272 Now where have we heard that expression before?

Missy has a popular front and behind?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 12, 2024 04:11 PM (DH2tQ)

273 Blinker and the Biden admin got plenty of warning of what would happen, they didn't care

Posted by: steevy at December 12, 2024 04:12 PM (KQk9m)

274 No one anticipated a takeover by the Taliban...yeah, no one except probably 40 million or so Americans.

I guess that's why Blinken and Co hate the Average American because they know the Average American is a lot smarter than they are.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 12, 2024 04:12 PM (tT6L1)

275 266 The Brits knew how to get their interests served..
Posted by: steevy at December 12, 2024 04:10 PM (KQk9m)

"Special relationship", indeed!

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 12, 2024 04:13 PM (iDXF1)

276 his murderous piece of trash needs to be publicly executed in a truly gruesome fashion, gruesome enough that David French cries.
Posted by: Northernlurker

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Put of tempest for Liawatha's heritage, we could use some Iroquois or comanche techniques.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at December 12, 2024 04:08 PM (vX3K6)
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What, no love for the brazen bull?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2024 04:13 PM (YqDXo)

277 Nood IG report and media shitbaggery.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at December 12, 2024 04:13 PM (FAbrK)

278 Born in 1972. Anyone over 30 thru call bonnets now anyway

Posted by: steevy at December 12, 2024 04:13 PM (KQk9m)

279 There b noodity.

Posted by: Upstairs at December 12, 2024 04:13 PM (DobEs)

280 It's a nifty parlor trick. But it won't move the judiciary. They can't get shook as easily as Congressfags. This'll be another thing where they say the precedent was for Muh Justicez, and in this case, the orange colored emanations from the fascist penumbras are deflected by the Hawaiian Fortifications of Sacred Democracy, as established by the Living Documents of Freedom and Muh Justicez.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

Harder to overcome YD. DC Court of Appeals decision which is pretty much the core of the bureaucracy. Scotus refused cert. Court of Appeals precedent is Severino v. Biden which was a similar case filed for a similar reason in District Court. Came down to statutory reasons, not constitutional .

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2024 04:14 PM (ctrM5)

281
>> All this firing reminds me that the news wants me
To care about all the movie stars in Malibu whose homes are burning.

One news report stated that Dick Van Dyke had to flee from his home.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2024 04:14 PM (63Dwl)

282 Omg autocorrect is run by retarded ai. Called boomers.

Posted by: steevy at December 12, 2024 04:14 PM (KQk9m)

283 268 No, they're not all lawyers.

Are all FBI agents lawyers or accountants?
The FBI seeks special agents with any occupation that requires a college degree. Specifically, we look for expertise in physical science, computer science, engineering, architecture, law, accounting, and other disciplines that require logical analysis and critical thinking.
Posted by: L - Rooster one day, Feather duster another at December 12, 2024 04:10 PM (NFX2v
Ain’t what J. Edgar Hoover and Elliot Ness wanted, they sought to hire badasses like Sean Connery.

Posted by: Eromero at December 12, 2024 04:14 PM (jgmnb)

284 Now where have we heard that expression before?
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For the record, a "Popular Front" is a agglomeration of all forces on the left. The commies typically fight the socialists, anarchists, and other leftists for dominance, but in a Popular Front they temporarily put their differences aside to fight conservatives.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2024 04:15 PM (YqDXo)

285 Have you ever written a book? You have an awful lot of knowledge regarding history and politics.
Posted by: Bulg
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Dissertation, Master Thesis, and assorted peer reviewed articles.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2024 04:15 PM (ctrM5)

286 I thought the Head of the FAA was a Black guy?

Posted by: Ciampino - Talking of flying at December 12, 2024 04:18 PM (i0xsb)

287 No one thought the Taliban would take over?

What complete idiots

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2024 04:19 PM (fwDg9)

288 How many of us here anticipated the Taliban takeover? Most? All? We knew for sure the CIA would fuck this up.

FFS, how does Blinken not die of embarrassment when he says stupid shit like that?

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 12, 2024 04:20 PM (jyAD3)

289 268 No, they're not all lawyers.

Are all FBI agents lawyers or accountants?
The FBI seeks special agents with any occupation that requires a college degree. Specifically, we look for expertise in physical science, computer science, engineering, architecture, law, accounting, and other disciplines that require logical analysis and critical thinking.
Posted by: L - Rooster one day, Feather duster another at December 12, 2024 04:10 PM

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You'd probably be shocked to learn that one of the first things they look at is whether you are married. They want you locked in financially. Single guys can make a go of it if they get terminated. Married guys usually have families and financial obligations. The FBI will, also, blacklist you to work in law enforcement if you don't tow the line and get terminated. Also, as far back as the 1990's they'd start off the group application process with a 15 minute video that stated outright that women and minorities would get preference (pssst, that's illegal). The psych test they give you at that meeting is multiple choice and a joke. But, unless know someone or fit into their "minority" preference, you aren't even getting an interview.

Posted by: Orson at December 12, 2024 04:22 PM (dIske)

290 >>>Are all FBI agents lawyers or accountants?
The FBI seeks special agents with any occupation that requires a college degree. Specifically, we look for expertise in physical science, computer science, engineering, architecture, law, accounting, and other disciplines that require logical analysis and critical thinking.
Posted by: L - Rooster one day, Feather duster another
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Whoever put the parameters on expertise was unqualified for the job.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 12, 2024 04:25 PM (9oFPr)

291 >>>You'd probably be shocked to learn that one of the first things they look at is whether you are married. They want you locked in financially.
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Of course, one of your guys needs a loan to buy a car, sure; a loan to get married, for sure and here's a wedding present.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 12, 2024 04:29 PM (9oFPr)

292 Third tit is not the best tit.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 12, 2024 04:30 PM (9oFPr)

293 ITS FUNNY BECAUSE WHIG IS EITHER VDH OR A RETIRED STEELERS QB

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at December 12, 2024 06:12 PM (wBaIH)

294 Wouldn't the first half of this point make the other half moot?

Posted by: brainey at December 12, 2024 06:54 PM (5I7rI)

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