Overnight Open Thread - 12/05/2024<br><i>[Roger Ball]</i>

Overnight Open Thread - 12/05/2024
[Roger Ball]

Greetings HORDUS MAXIMUS! I know, I know. Where the hell is WeirdDave?
He’ll return in due time. Until then, buckle up!

The picture is of the Airbus A350 instrument panel. I know some A350 pilots and they say it is a great airplane to operate. (Note, I did not say “fly”. That’s a subject for another thread.). Airbus has done an amazing job of producing their jets since the A320 launched in 1984 and completed its first flight in 1987.

In the summer of 1977, a new European program called "JET" (Joint European Transport) was set up, including British Aerospace, Aerospatiale, Dornier, and Fokker. Based at a former Vickers Aircraft site in Surrey, England, the plane makers began designing what would later become the Airbus A320. Powered by two CFM56 engines, that plane would be faster than the Boeing 737.

Prior to the A320, Airbus had produced the A300 and the A310 which were fair attempts but still not innovative or industry leading. They were competing against the Boeing juggernaut which had just produce the first “third generation” jet airliners, B757 and B767. (1st gen: B707, DC-8 etc. 2nd gen: Widebody, B747, DC-10, L-1011, A300, A310). Now, Airbus leads the pack, and Boeing has some work to do to catch up. Maybe there’s hope.

Boeing CEO Kelly Ortberg grounded much of the company's fleet of private jets and is now directing executives to fly economy on scheduled commercial flights, Bloomberg reported.

Well, it’s a start anyway. That doesn’t help the troops cut metal or buck rivets, though.

A big fan of “the old Boeing”, Juan Tripp was one of the pioneers who forged our air transport system out of almost nothing. The airplanes and engines were shaky and there was no infrastructure. It was a bit risky and extremely expensive. They used to call them “airfields” because even the big airports were literally just big open fields. If they were nice airfields, they would have a concrete or asphalt parking apron, so you at least didn’t have to trapse through the mud getting to and from the airplane.

Pan Am lives on through one of the great Pan Am museums. The following podcast was produced by the museum in Garden City, New York and recounts the first trans-Atlantic flight of a Boeing Clipper in June 1939. It’s a little dry but you can skim through it. The coolest thing is hearing the actual radio broadcast from the airplane as it flew across the Atlantic. You could compare it to us watching the Christmas broadcast of Apollo 8, just 39 years later.
Episode 51: Crossing the Atlantic in 1939 and Making History Once More

On March 29, 1939, the Yankee Clipper made history and took off from Baltimore to Europe under the command of Captain Harold Gray. On this inspection flight, the clipper traveled to the Azores, Lisbon, Marseilles, Southampton, and Foynes and back.
On June 17, 1939, Pan American arranged for a special flight for 16 members of the press departing from Port Washington on the Atlantic Clipper; a brilliant marketing and public relations strategy for the airline. This press flight is historically and culturally significant because the radio reporters on board reported live at an altitude of 10,000 feet over the Atlantic Ocean to listeners all over the country tuned into their radio sets with great interest.
The cost for a one-way ticket to Europe was $375 (that’s about $8,500 in 2024 money adjusted for inflation) or $675 roundtrip (which is over $15,000 today).

What did you get for your hard earned $15000 dollars? Only the finest, of course! Can you imagine an airliner cabin looking like this?

Oh…well…I guess there are exceptions these days.

That’s a Singapore A380 “First/Suite” and it will only set you back $11,000 or so! What a deal!

Lest we forget…well, I did forget, yesterday the Commemorative Air Base Georgia posted this:

In 2022, our Corsair starred in the movie DEVOTION about Jesse Brown and Thomas Hudner and the incredible and tragic events surrounding Brown's crash and subsequent death in Korea. December 4, 1950, was the day those events played out in real life.
At 22, Jesse Leroy Brown became the first African American to complete U.S. Navy flight training. At 24, he was already a section leader flying the F4U-4 Corsair with VF-32 aboard USS Leyte (CV-32) during the Korean War. On December 4, 1950, Brown crash-landed near the Chosin Reservoir after reporting oil pressure loss. Trapped in the wreckage, he was found by his wingman, Lt. (j.g.) Thomas Hudner, who crash-landed nearby to try to free him. Despite his best efforts, Brown succumbed to his injuries, asking Hudner to tell his wife he loved her.
Brown received the Distinguished Flying Cross, Air Medal, and Purple Heart posthumously. Hudner was awarded the Medal of Honor for his attempted rescue. Both men were later honored with U.S. Navy ships bearing their names, ensuring their legacy endures.

The movie was fair, mostly accurate and one heck of a story.

The picky geeks will note that that is an FG-1D, not an F4U. That also is a subject for another thread. Don’t hate me.

There's a Hall of Honor display for these intrepid aviators at the National Museum of Naval Aviation in Pensacola.

This has nothing to do with aviation, but it caught me by surprise, as did the all the battle ground states. Not only did the Amish turn out to vote for Trump, but they also can belt out some Blue Grass! Who knew?

You know the Brandenberger family has to be a thing if they have their own YouTube channel, eh? And, as Buck would note, they have a stand-up bass.

In other news, those pesky Chinese continue to build ships: China’s new aircraft carrier underway.

Details about the flattop, which currently has various commercial-style rather than military markings and is unlike any other established Chinese Navy vessel class, are still scant. There remains a possibility that this could be a first-of-its-kind ostensibly civilian research ship.

Here's a better post:The War Zone.

Jeez, where’s General Milley when you need him? I’m sure he could just call his good buddy, General Li Zuocheng of the PLA, and get the straight scoop, yea? I hope we find out what the mission before “stuff “ starts coming over the horizon.

Go to sea, they said. It will be fun, they said.

A true small boy sailor commented-

@rpshipley
As a Retired US Navy Sailor, who has served on Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers, I can say that was a calm day for the Small Boys. Best sleep I got at sea was when we were pitching and rolling like that. And watching this video, I have to admit, I miss it.

Good on ya, shipmate. Me…not so much. I’ll take the big boat.

Hey, are any of the HORDE suddenly getting all these wacky camping shorts? I don’t really feel like camping now that it’s 20 freekin’ degrees, but I might make an exception for her.

Come back, WeirdDave, come back!

Keep the blue side up!
Roger, out.

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Comments

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1 Woot!

Posted by: JQ at December 05, 2024 09:58 PM (YoCnN)

2 One minute early...

Posted by: lin-duh at December 05, 2024 09:59 PM (VCgbV)

3 th?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at December 05, 2024 10:00 PM (hOUT3)

4 Yay, Day of the Ninja ONT!

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 05, 2024 10:00 PM (lUFok)

5 Meow

Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at December 05, 2024 10:00 PM (w3u3d)

6 Night horde! Have fun!

Posted by: LizLem at December 05, 2024 10:00 PM (wcIbG)

7 Nice job, Roger. Anything aviation-related awesome. Thanks.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 05, 2024 10:02 PM (mH6SG)

8 Where the hell is WeirdDave?

Just as long as he's back with the Friday memes, stranger.

Posted by: mindful webworker - strangest at December 05, 2024 10:02 PM (8eJeY)

9 Good evening horde and thanks Roger for the ont

The picture is of the Airbus A350 instrument panel.
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Cool.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 05, 2024 10:02 PM (RIvkX)

10 Isn't Airbus just rebranded Messerschmidt?

Posted by: Reforger at December 05, 2024 10:03 PM (xcIvR)

11 That’s a Singapore A380 “First/Suite” and it will only set you back $11,000 or so! What a deal!

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one way or round trip ???

Posted by: runner at December 05, 2024 10:03 PM (QTCRF)

12 Sorry I'm late, the air traffic controller was getting a coffee.

Posted by: tankdemon at December 05, 2024 10:05 PM (rYsEh)

13 Don't think I'd enjoy trying to sleep on any ship in the navy.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 05, 2024 10:05 PM (aOqEy)

14 Love the traditional Amish digital wall clock!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2024 10:06 PM (WtsT+)

15 Evenin'

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 05, 2024 10:07 PM (YoT4f)

16 Evening, Morons!

Howdy, Mr. Ball *tips cap*

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at December 05, 2024 10:07 PM (lonny)

17 Did WeirdDave do something stupid, and tell Ginger he preferred Mary Ann?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 05, 2024 10:07 PM (VNX3d)

18 >>> Just as long as he's back with the Friday memes, stranger.
Posted by: mindful webworker - strangest at December 05, 2024 10:02 PM (8eJeY)

We are NOT related, he's tacky and I hate him.

Posted by: Chase Strangio, getting punked like a little bitch by Clarence Thomas at December 05, 2024 10:07 PM (wcIbG)

19 My first tour of duty was on USS Jesse L.Brown (FF-1089).

Good ship, named after a good man.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 05, 2024 10:07 PM (a1415)

20 Thanks for an interesting and informative ONT, Roger Ball! Always enjoy your aircraft-themed posts.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 05, 2024 10:08 PM (rxCpr)

21 Good evening Horde. Thanks RB.

Speaking of Boeing, news from Texas today:

Texas federal court rejects Boeing plea deal over 737 Max crashes, cites DEI concerns

https://tinyurl.com/mrjrnhue

Posted by: TRex at December 05, 2024 10:08 PM (IQ6Gq)

22 WeirdDave MIA? I suspect thespianism.

Posted by: Figgered It Out at December 05, 2024 10:09 PM (D0hl3)

23 And yes, some of the best sleep I ever had was on Frigates, in a storm.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 05, 2024 10:09 PM (a1415)

24 14 Love the traditional Amish digital wall clock!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2024 10:06 PM (WtsT+)

Lol, probably handcrafted from the Black Forest region.

But I believe it's legal if it's battery powered.

Posted by: haffhowershower at December 05, 2024 10:09 PM (NMT5x)

25 Imagine serving as a British sailor aboard one of the old wooden ships like the HMS Victory.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 05, 2024 10:10 PM (aOqEy)

26 Thanks, Roger. I'm going to enjoy this ONT.

And, to TRex, thanks very much for last night's. I didn't get to say it last night and I had to watch some of it this morning, but it was great. The A-10 video brought back good memories (and one of severe consternation).

Posted by: GWB at December 05, 2024 10:10 PM (WlvCt)

27 The coolest aircraft ever was the Red Baron’s red Fokker triplane.

Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2024 10:11 PM (v6JzV)

28 He had a 32 gun in his pocket for fun and a razor in his shoe.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 05, 2024 10:11 PM (63Dwl)

29 I was born too late for Zepplins and too early for L5s.

Ah well.

Posted by: Adriane the Highbrow Travel Technology Critic . . . at December 05, 2024 10:11 PM (qz+gL)

30 Cool seaplane

Posted by: Don Black at December 05, 2024 10:11 PM (/7KEl)

31 Here's some aero footage, the Phillipine Mars on Sproat Lake. One big-ass airplane:

https://youtu.be/FVmE8JpO6Jg

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2024 10:11 PM (WtsT+)

32 Yeah. That Jesse Brown always chokes me up a little.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 05, 2024 10:12 PM (3wi/L)

33 26 And, to TRex, thanks very much for last night's. I didn't get to say it last night and I had to watch some of it this morning, but it was great.

Posted by: GWB at December 05, 2024 10:10 PM
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Thank you, Sir. Much appreciated. Still making this up as we go.

Posted by: TRex at December 05, 2024 10:13 PM (IQ6Gq)

34 I'll believe Boeing is serious when the corporate HQ moves back to Seattle. Until then, it's all just the usual corporate taurine effluvia.

Posted by: Nemo at December 05, 2024 10:13 PM (S6ArX)

35 in the navy, in the navy

Posted by: gKWVE at December 05, 2024 10:13 PM (gKWVE)

36 The 737MAX was a perfect example of Boeing putting profits before safety, to disastrous effect.

That vintage 1966 airframe was designed around the ancient JT8D turbojet engine with a 39-inch width.

Guess what? When you stuff a high-bypass turbofan with a 104-inch diameter into that space, the plane doesn't handle so well anymore. In fact, the drastic pitch changes that accompany thrust adjustments require the addition of a computerized flight management system.

And when you farm out the programming to Indian companies with no experience coding such systems, airplanes start crashing.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 05, 2024 10:13 PM (hY4dx)

37 He had a 32 gun in his pocket for fun and a razor in his shoe. "

Yup, That was our break-away song for after UNREP.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 05, 2024 10:13 PM (a1415)

38 Good evening good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 05, 2024 10:13 PM (WXNFJ)

39 14 Love the traditional Amish digital wall clock!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2024 10:06 PM (WtsT+)

The electric drip coffee pot made me think they were Mennonite, since there are no objections to modern appliances/tech with them.

Posted by: Moki at December 05, 2024 10:13 PM (wLjpr)

40 Today is a day that should be celebrated by all. On this date in 1933, state conventions in Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Utah officially approved the 21st Amendment to the Constitution, putting prohibition on the ash heap of History, tight where it belongs.

http://tiny.cc/bpfzzz

Posted by: tankdemon at December 05, 2024 10:14 PM (rYsEh)

41 If the Chinese Navy is built to anywhere near their build quality for tools, we got this.

Posted by: Some Garbage Rat at December 05, 2024 10:14 PM (+VovS)

42 Imagine serving as a British sailor aboard one of the old wooden ships like the HMS Victory.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
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The material, labor, and craftsmanship boggle the mind.

Posted by: Eric Swalwell at December 05, 2024 10:15 PM (XeU6L)

43 The coolest aircraft ever was the Red Baron’s red Fokker triplane.
Posted by: Bulg
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Cooler than Snoopy's doghouse??
I don't think so.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at December 05, 2024 10:15 PM (Lo97M)

44 YouTuber Animagrafs explains 18th century sailing warships.

Really cool cutaways and modeling.

https://tinyurl.com/2x5xe5p7

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 05, 2024 10:15 PM (aOqEy)

45 Oops /Swalwell

Posted by: m at December 05, 2024 10:15 PM (XeU6L)

46 41 If the Chinese Navy is built to anywhere near their build quality for tools, we got this.
Posted by: Some Garbage Rat at December 05, 2024 10:14 PM (+VovS)

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Is Harbor Freight laying keels now?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 05, 2024 10:16 PM (hY4dx)

47
Dan and Ruth to the vet today. Ruth is a character. While Diana is an elegant lady, Ruth is a party-hearty tomboy.

Dan, who had pneumonia and then was diagnosed with Stage II kidney problems, is doing much better. If you didn't know he had a problem, you could never tell from his demeanor.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 05, 2024 10:16 PM (dxSpM)

48 38 Good evening good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 05, 2024 10:13 PM (WXNFJ

Are you sure you're in the right place?

*looks around at the rest of the bar*

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 05, 2024 10:16 PM (aOqEy)

49 0500 comes early.

TTFN

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 05, 2024 10:16 PM (a1415)

50 I've had destroyers on my mind. My great-uncle served on the USS Thorn (DD-647) during WWII. Was thinking of building a model of it as a memento.

I have his certificate of him being a plank owner from when they commissioned a newer Thorn. It's probably 18x24, framed, hanging on my wall.

Posted by: haffhowershower at December 05, 2024 10:16 PM (NMT5x)

51 And when you farm out the programming to Indian companies with no experience coding such systems, airplanes start crashing.
Posted by: Cicero

Hallo! Theese is Steeeve. I will most happily do the needful for you today. Will you joyfully describe the compressor stall to me?

Posted by: Tonypete at December 05, 2024 10:16 PM (WXNFJ)

52 The electric drip coffee pot made me think they were Mennonite, since there are no objections to modern appliances/tech with them.
Posted by: Moki
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And the refrigerator...

Posted by: lin-duh at December 05, 2024 10:17 PM (VCgbV)

53 "...that f'ker was a Messerschmidt!"

Posted by: just the punchline at December 05, 2024 10:17 PM (YoCnN)

54 I heard that China can't manufacture those tiny balls in ballpoint pens; they have to import them.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at December 05, 2024 10:17 PM (w6EFb)

55 The electric drip coffee pot made me think they were Mennonite, since there are no objections to modern appliances/tech with them.
Posted by: Moki
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And the refrigerator...
Posted by: lin-duh

Lehman's Hardware in Kidron, OH carries propane fueled fridges.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 05, 2024 10:18 PM (WXNFJ)

56 Finally some good news.
Nailed down a crappy job today.
Then later got a call to come test for a state job.
The state job pays way more and even has a nice sign on bonus.
I just need to study for it before Tuesday.
I had forgotten I had even applied for it.

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at December 05, 2024 10:18 PM (elaR+)

57 The electric drip coffee pot made me think they were Mennonite, since there are no objections to modern appliances/tech with them.
Posted by: Moki at December 05, 2024 10:13 PM (wLjpr)

Yes, I was wondering about the magnet covered fridge.

Posted by: sal at December 05, 2024 10:19 PM (f+FmA)

58 Powered by two CFM56 engines
Very nice engines back in the day. We had 4 of them.

Posted by: GWB at December 05, 2024 10:19 PM (WlvCt)

59 54 I heard that China can't manufacture those tiny balls in ballpoint pens; they have to import them.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at December 05, 2024 10:17 PM (w6EFb)

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That's surprising. I thought China had more tiny balls than White Men for Kamala Harris.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 05, 2024 10:19 PM (hY4dx)

60 56 Finally some good news.
Nailed down a crappy job today.
Then later got a call to come test for a state job.
The state job pays way more and even has a nice sign on bonus.
I just need to study for it before Tuesday.
I had forgotten I had even applied for it.
Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at December 05, 2024 10:18 PM (elaR+)

Congrats!!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 05, 2024 10:19 PM (aOqEy)

61 32
Jesse Brown *story* chokes me up...

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 05, 2024 10:20 PM (3wi/L)

62 Thank you Alabama.
The drought is finally broken.

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at December 05, 2024 10:20 PM (elaR+)

63 Excellent news, Erebus. Hoping you get the job!

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 05, 2024 10:21 PM (lUFok)

64 Excellent news, Erebus. Hoping you get the job!
Posted by: Blanco Basura
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^Yes!!! Good luck!

Posted by: just the punchline at December 05, 2024 10:22 PM (YoCnN)

65 62 Thank you Alabama.
The drought is finally broken.
Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at December 05, 2024 10:20 PM (elaR

I've known that feeling.

Glad you turned the corner!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 05, 2024 10:22 PM (aOqEy)

66 Cicero, recently flew on a MAX for the first time. Airline friends hate it, and now I know why. The aft lavatories are so small that I seriously wonder how 30% of the passengers could ever fit in - I could barely make it work and I'm fortunately carrying few extra pounds. Leg room was the worst I've seen. The galley for the attendants was ridiculous, tiny.

Reminded me of the contemporary idiocy of painting parking lots to fit in 7 more spaces at the cost of making all the spaces absurdly small and impossible to park in (trucks just take two of them, out of necessity). How much more $ could that airplane deliver at the cost of all those disamenities?

Posted by: rhomboid at December 05, 2024 10:22 PM (1m82a)

67 stanky sock...

Posted by: JQ at December 05, 2024 10:23 PM (YoCnN)

68 Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at December 05, 2024 10:20 PM (elaR+)

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Congrats! And remember, its a government job, so no pr0n surfing during the first week.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 05, 2024 10:23 PM (hY4dx)

69
Then later got a call to come test for a state job.

__________

Question 6: A contractor offers you $20,000 to overlook safety inspections on a contract. The size of the contract is $40 million. What percentage are you offered?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 05, 2024 10:23 PM (dxSpM)

70 common misconception about the Amish. They can use all the tech they want if they are sing it for their jobs. If they are getting paid to sing, i would expect electricity everywhere.

don't believe me because I'm not a recognized AoS "expert"

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 again. at December 05, 2024 10:24 PM (89Sog)

71 OK Roger and thank you for the post. You will understand that anything aviation is my own Griffin.
Do not know if you are following, but the last flying JRM-1 "Philippine Mars" a massive flying boat converted to a water bomber is about to leave her Coulson group lake in BC for the final time to be flown to? Florida? to be put on Permanente display.

The final flight will be down the west coast of California before turning East so some folks may actually get to see her fly over.

Posted by: Nightwatch at December 05, 2024 10:24 PM (TDvv2)

72 56 Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at December 05, 2024 10:18 PM (elaR+)

Congratulations. I hope you breeze through that test Tuesday. A sign-on bonus makes a nice Christmas gift.

Posted by: tankdemon at December 05, 2024 10:24 PM (rYsEh)

73
Yes, I was wondering about the magnet covered fridge.
Posted by: sal at December 05, 2024 10:19 PM (f+FmA)

I saw that after I posted. Not normally seen in an Amish kitchen is it? It's possible some things have changed over time?

Posted by: Moki at December 05, 2024 10:24 PM (wLjpr)

74 Re Devotion--Exhibit on Jesse Brown in the African American Military History Museum in Hattiesburg, MS.

Posted by: Jim at December 05, 2024 10:24 PM (DcE5z)

75 The DDG? Really not that abnormal...

But note the difference in movement between that Carrier flight deck, and the Destroyer.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2024 10:25 PM (QAkQ3)

76 I have a good friend who went on to fly for the USAF. After some number of years he went on to do some pilot training. Then... flew C-141's and later C-130's. I'll never forget a Christmas in 198X when he brought milk crates full of various beers from Europe... kept icy in the C-141's wheel wells.

He later went on to fly the VC aircraft for the US government. Better known as "Air Force Two" a couple of 757's used by the VP (AF2) or some other ID when dragging heads around... like SoS, DoD, etc.

Later he went on to fly corporate jets. Big corporate jets. Like tricked out 737's. I've been on one. It's a flying palace.

And he'll say, without a pause, most of the time the plane would fly itself.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 05, 2024 10:25 PM (Q4IgG)

77 Roger Ball ONT! Excellent stuff.

Posted by: JQ at December 05, 2024 10:25 PM (YoCnN)

78 54 I heard that China can't manufacture those tiny balls in ballpoint pens; they have to import them.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at December 05, 2024 10:17 PM (w6EFb)

I thought they just castrated their prisoners to make their pens.

Posted by: tankdemon at December 05, 2024 10:25 PM (rYsEh)

79 The aft lavatories are so small that I seriously wonder how 30% of the passengers could ever fit in - I could barely make it work and I'm fortunately carrying few extra pounds. Leg room was the worst I've seen. The galley for the attendants was ridiculous, tiny.

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Leg space is on the airline, since they get to decide how many rows of seats they want to cram into coach. The galleys and lavs are probably Boeing's fault.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 05, 2024 10:27 PM (hY4dx)

80 37 He had a 32 gun in his pocket for fun and a razor in his shoe. "

Yup, That was our break-away song for after UNREP.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 05, 2024 10:13 PM (a1415)

Damn, how'd he fit a 32 Gun Frigate in his pocket without the mast sticking out?

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2024 10:28 PM (QAkQ3)

81 Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at December 05, 2024 10:18 PM

You got this. Best of luck!

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 05, 2024 10:28 PM (mH6SG)

82 That's a tiger cruise in the video and I wonder if any of the civilians on the carrier wished they could be on the tin can?

Just listened to a podcast on the kamikaze campaign at Okinawa and the destroyers of course took the brunt of the damage. Twenty six ships sunk and 225 damaged (some severely/permanently). Nearly *6K* KIA.

If Japan hadn't been husbanding planes for the anticipated invasion of Kyushu, it would have been significantly worse, and even more prolonged.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 05, 2024 10:28 PM (1m82a)

83 directing executives to fly economy on scheduled commercial flights
Aside from the direct costs of operating a fleet of jets, there's another reason to direct using commercial flights. With your own jet, you can blow off the planned take-off time and ask the pilot to "push it up a little." And you can plan your times a little closer - you're probably landing at a private airport and don't have to deal with traffic to get to your meeting on time.

Those might sound like good things. But for an executive type it can breed a sort of contempt for the people with whom you're dealing (that meeting you're going to, the managers you're meeting, etc.). You can get an attitude that YOU have to plan around MY schedule.

With commercial flights you have to plan around the airlines' schedule. And the potential problems with weather, plane maintenance, etc. Heck, you might even decide to make some of those meetings virtual to avoid complications.

BTW, he should also require them to fly on nothing but Boeing aircraft when they go commercial.

Posted by: GWB at December 05, 2024 10:28 PM (WlvCt)

84 Damn, how'd he fit a 32 Gun Frigate in his pocket without the mast sticking out?
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2024 10:28 PM (QAkQ3)

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Don't even ask about where the bowsprit went.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 05, 2024 10:29 PM (hY4dx)

85 Love the Amish bluegrass!

Posted by: look whats not at December 05, 2024 10:29 PM (nakGR)

86 Good evening, sorry, I'm late.

Since we've started out in the cockpit, y'all may have missed this the other night. It's straight from the cockpit.

https://tinyurl.com/yuucy429

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 05, 2024 10:29 PM (9UV2C)

87 Thanks for the "Shane" memories.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 05, 2024 10:29 PM (0Htd1)

88 My first ship as a newly commissioned Ensign was the USS Mullinnix DD 944. Fun fact, it was laid down the same year I was born, 1956.

Yes I'm over 29.

Posted by: Archer at December 05, 2024 10:30 PM (IDphi)

89 I saw that after I posted. Not normally seen in an Amish kitchen is it? It's possible some things have changed over time?
Posted by: Moki

Each Amish Denomination is ruled by a local Bishop whose word is law. That denomination, normally based on location, can only do what is permitted by their Bishop.

Mennonites' rules are very different and again, locally determined and enforced.

Except for very sweeping and general statements, it is a fools errand to say "All Amish must do . . . ".

Posted by: Tonypete at December 05, 2024 10:30 PM (WXNFJ)

90 Cool clock, Achmed.

Posted by: Dirac_Delta at December 05, 2024 10:31 PM (9EO0O)

91 Cicero, correct. Anyway, overall, a very bad experience. And I generally don't care about airline travel conditions, am fairly flexible.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 05, 2024 10:31 PM (1m82a)

92 Nightwatch that's interesting about the Mars water bomber. Have always loved flying boats amphibious aircraft. As a young kid, used to love it when we went to this restaurant on the waterfront (right next to where the USS Midway museum is now) that had big view windows looking across to North Island. The seaplane landing area was right in front - marked by buoys. Fortunately my dad was as stoked about it as I was, so no begging needed to go there.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 05, 2024 10:33 PM (1m82a)

93 ***Boeing has some work to do to catch up***
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Whoops, there goes another window's out
Whoops, there goes her purse
Whoops, we need another nurse
I'll never fly Boeing again.
_Butch & Suni

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 05, 2024 10:34 PM (9UV2C)

94 Hadrian the Seventh,
Sorry to hear about Dan's medical issues. My late beagle had congestive heart failure and kidney problems. One makes it difficult to treat the other.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 05, 2024 10:34 PM (0Htd1)

95 Excellent news, Erebus. Hoping you get the job!
Posted by: Blanco Basura
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^Yes!!! Good luck!
Posted by: just the punchline
Thank you, and you and well Cicero.
Hadrian, how many sexy females are included in the deal?

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at December 05, 2024 10:36 PM (elaR+)

96 Nightwatch...thank you for the comments. Yes, I follow the Mars and almost anything else with the original round engine.
Erebus...good luck! Hope its the job of your dreams ;-).

Posted by: Roger Ball at December 05, 2024 10:36 PM (iW6OQ)

97 Another Airbus Pilot and Blogger of yore.

Those who'll remember Gerard Van Der Leun's "American Digest" blog, (if said readership goes back a few years), might also recall the frequently linked "Flight Level 390" blog.

Which was some of the finest aviation prose ever put to the screen. Sadly, lost, when whoever his corporate masters were, discovered said blog, and deployed it's permanent airbrakes.

Went along on many a flight there with Captain Dave, all without ever leaving this screen.

Roger Ball, Cap'n Dave, Captain LeFon (Neptunus Lex)... some real poetry of the skies, all.

*pours bourbon* ONT Greetings, Horde. CHEERS!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 05, 2024 10:37 PM (Xo+UM)

98
Hadrian, how many sexy females are included in the deal?
Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale

________

You'll get Rosa DeLauro in a negligee.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 05, 2024 10:38 PM (dxSpM)

99 Prayer up, Erebus.

Posted by: Bulg at December 05, 2024 10:39 PM (v6JzV)

100 Airfare to Singapore is stoooopid money. Mrs B went there 3 times in one year for her job. It was like 9K round trip for first class. She asked if I wanted to go. I said let me get this right. I have to buy my own ticket in coach for at least a few grand, and you're going to give up first class so we can sit 20-22 frigging hours packed like a sardine to visit a place with 1000% humidity where gum is illegal? Have fun, send me a postcard.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 05, 2024 10:39 PM (VwHCD)

101 You got this. Best of luck!
Posted by: Notorious BFD

Thank you.
Already learned a few things from a mini practice test I took.
Seems like a lot of common sense questions.
If so I might be ok.

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at December 05, 2024 10:39 PM (elaR+)

102 You'll get Rosa DeLauro in a negligee.
Posted by: Hadrian the Sevent

The percentage I'll need just went up

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at December 05, 2024 10:41 PM (elaR+)

103 Airfare to Singapore is stoooopid money. Mrs B went there 3 times in one year for her job. It was like 9K round trip for first class. She asked if I wanted to go. I said let me get this right. I have to buy my own ticket in coach for at least a few grand, and you're going to give up first class so we can sit 20-22 frigging hours packed like a sardine to visit a place with 1000% humidity where gum is illegal? Have fun, send me a postcard.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division

Need to bring back travelogues shown at the local high school gym so we can experience 3rd world countries from the safety of a folding chair.

Posted by: Some Garbage Rat at December 05, 2024 10:41 PM (+VovS)

104 I much preferred the carrier to the cruiser. But even the carrier could get to rockin' and rollin' in some seas. Hoo boy. And both were better than something like the Coronado.

Posted by: GWB at December 05, 2024 10:41 PM (WlvCt)

105 Prayer up, Erebus.
Posted by: Bulg

I'll take all the prayers I can get, thank you.

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at December 05, 2024 10:42 PM (elaR+)

106
If Japan hadn't been husbanding planes for the anticipated invasion of Kyushu, it would have been significantly worse, and even more prolonged.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 05, 2024 10:28 PM (1m82a)

__________

The ones hoarded for the defense of Kyushu were earmarked for attacks on troop carriers. The Navy found that kamikazes were hard to detect, many being of wood, and hard to shoot down.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 05, 2024 10:43 PM (dxSpM)

107 Benjamin Boyce is hosting a "friendly debate" and I don't know if I am up for the drama. I am 2 1/2 hours behind the event.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 05, 2024 10:43 PM (lhenN)

108 Need to bring back travelogues shown at the local high school gym so we can experience 3rd world countries from the safety of a folding chair.
Posted by: Some Garbage Rat

Can we also do the film strips that needed to be sync'd with a reel to reel tape recorder?

Yeah, I'm old.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 05, 2024 10:43 PM (WXNFJ)

109 Need to bring back travelogues shown at the local high school gym so we can experience 3rd world countries from the safety of a folding chair.

Posted by: Some Garbage Rat at December 05, 2024 10:41 PM (+VovS)

I would rather enjoy them from the observation lounge of my personal Deathstar.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 05, 2024 10:44 PM (VwHCD)

110 Congratulations. I hope you breeze through that test Tuesday. A sign-on bonus makes a nice Christmas gift.
Posted by: tankdemon

It would be, but this is one of those jobs with meaning.
Thanks for the well wishes.

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at December 05, 2024 10:44 PM (elaR+)

111 Yeah, I'm old.
Posted by: Tonypete

Heh, I remember the "beeb" to inform teach to advance the strip!

Posted by: Some Garbage Rat at December 05, 2024 10:45 PM (+VovS)

112 Trying to start an E-machines tower computer. Power on, fans are running, won't boot, no video out.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2024 10:45 PM (WtsT+)

113 It would be, but this is one of those jobs with meaning.
. . .
Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale

Wait - you mean there are jobs that are personally and/or professionally satisfying?

Dayumm.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 05, 2024 10:45 PM (WXNFJ)

114 Trying to start an E-machines tower computer. Power on, fans are running, won't boot, no video out.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2024 10:45 PM (WtsT+)

E-machine? Did you try banging the rocks together? lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 05, 2024 10:46 PM (VwHCD)

115 I'm pretty sure you can't get a round trip from LA to Singapore in First Class for $9000. That would have to be Business Class.

First Class RT to Singapore would lighten your wallet by around $20k on most airlines.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 05, 2024 10:46 PM (hY4dx)

116 If you all wanna see the LAST MARS FLYING BOAT
FlRt4KxvTco...on the tube taxi runs in prep for the final flight.

Posted by: Nightwatch at December 05, 2024 10:47 PM (TDvv2)

117 *** Chinese Navy vessel class, are still scant. There remains a possibility that this could be a first-of-its-kind ostensibly civilian research ship.
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The Glomar Explorer was a civilian research ship.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 05, 2024 10:47 PM (9UV2C)

118
First Class RT to Singapore would lighten your wallet by around $20k on most airlines.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 05, 2024 10:46 PM (hY4dx)

__________

Shows the need for high-speed rail.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 05, 2024 10:48 PM (dxSpM)

119 11 That’s a Singapore A380 “First/Suite” and it will only set you back $11,000 or so! What a deal!

===

one way or round trip ???

Posted by: runner at December 05, 2024 10:03 PM (QTCRF)
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Yes.

Posted by: Ciampino - more if you insist ona change of sheets at December 05, 2024 10:48 PM (i0xsb)

120 I'm pretty sure you can't get a round trip from LA to Singapore in First Class for $9000. That would have to be Business Class.

First Class RT to Singapore would lighten your wallet by around $20k on most airlines.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 05, 2024 10:46 PM (hY4dx)

Might have been business class. She said she had her own pod to sleep in with a fully reclining seat that was bed like. Sounded pretty first class to me, but who knows.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 05, 2024 10:49 PM (VwHCD)

121 One of the smoothest pilots I ever flew with was a guy named Patterson and he used to fly C-47s over the Hump in china in ww2. Damn he was good!

Posted by: Diogenes at December 05, 2024 10:49 PM (W/lyH)

122 Hadrian, sorry to hear about Dan your dog (dag).
So unfair they don't live longer.
One of my cats has kidney issues too and so far it doesn't show.
She may be as old as 20 so I try to enjoy my time with her.
I wasn't a cat person until she claimed me.

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at December 05, 2024 10:50 PM (elaR+)

123 Shows the need for high-speed rail.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Heh, just don't let the california folks anywhere near the project.

Posted by: Some Garbage Rat at December 05, 2024 10:50 PM (+VovS)

124 I'm really enjoying those Brandenberger Family vids.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 05, 2024 10:50 PM (mH6SG)

125 One of the smoothest pilots I ever flew with was a guy named Patterson and he used to fly C-47s over the Hump in china in ww2. Damn he was good!

Posted by: Diogenes at December 05, 2024 10:49 PM (W/lyH)

Those hump pilots were insane.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 05, 2024 10:51 PM (VwHCD)

126 Wait - you mean there are jobs that are personally and/or professionally satisfying?

Dayumm.
Posted by: Tonypete

If you don't mind some danger in it too, yes.

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at December 05, 2024 10:51 PM (elaR+)

127
Her Majesty, who has to travel several times a year, complains that she's going first-class in the future, says that flights nowadays smell of pot and ass. I replied that you can put up with most things for three hours. This was a mistake.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 05, 2024 10:52 PM (dxSpM)

128 Question for the Navy people.

That looked like "relatively" calm seas to me, yet that DDG was absolutely wallowing.

Is it a terrible design, a trade-off of speed vs pitching, that is normal, etc.?

What is the correct explanation to the non-Navy people?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 05, 2024 10:52 PM (HlyYF)

129 Aft lavatories?

I don't think so.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 05, 2024 10:53 PM (RIvkX)

130 Might have been business class. She said she had her own pod to sleep in with a fully reclining seat that was bed like. Sounded pretty first class to me, but who knows.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 05, 2024 10:49 PM (VwHCD)

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Business Class is very cush these days, especially on the Asian carriers. Even on American you get a private cubicle with a lay-flat bed on their two-aisle planes like the 777.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 05, 2024 10:53 PM (hY4dx)

131 Is it a terrible design, a trade-off of speed vs pitching, that is normal, etc.?

What is the correct explanation to the non-Navy people?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot

Trough to trough and length of ship and sometimes, WHEEEE!

Posted by: Some Garbage Rat at December 05, 2024 10:56 PM (+VovS)

132 The series The Pacific War in Color's first episode featured home movies made by a couple travelling across the ocean on Pan AM, and all the stops resonated just a couple years later: Honolulu, Midway, Wake, Tokyo, Hong Kong, Manila. It was cool seeing movies of those places before war erupted.

Posted by: logprof at December 05, 2024 10:56 PM (AfrDr)

133 14 Love the traditional Amish digital wall clock!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2024 10:06 PM (WtsT+)
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An interior sundial?

Posted by: Ciampino - whale-oil powered? at December 05, 2024 10:56 PM (i0xsb)

134 chicoms are good propagandists. That "carrier" is probably a wooden mockup.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 again. at December 05, 2024 10:57 PM (89Sog)

135 "Fate Is the Hunter" is an outstanding book, true stories of aviation in the 1930s and '40s. Commercial flying was nowhere near as safe as today. Truly, lives sometimes hung on a knife edge. By Ernest Gann, who was quite man.

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at December 05, 2024 10:57 PM (vWgxe)

136 128 Question for the Navy people.

That looked like "relatively" calm seas to me, yet that DDG was absolutely wallowing.
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Not Navy but I would call that pitching.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 05, 2024 10:57 PM (9UV2C)

137 Her Majesty, who has to travel several times a year, complains that she's going first-class in the future, says that flights nowadays smell of pot and ass. I replied that you can put up with most things for three hours. This was a mistake.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

I can't speak to smelling ass, but the smell of pot makes me ill.
I was driving the I10 recently and a jeep ahead of me reeked of it.
Finally I passed them on the right and made it a point to stay ahead of them no matter what.
People who smoke it get nose blind and can't believe how easily others can tell they are smoking it or have recently smoked it.

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at December 05, 2024 10:57 PM (elaR+)

138 The series The Pacific War in Color's first episode featured home movies made by a couple travelling across the ocean on Pan AM, and all the stops resonated just a couple years later: Honolulu, Midway, Wake, Tokyo, Hong Kong, Manila. It was cool seeing movies of those places before war erupted.
Posted by: logprof

Now you'll see various folks visiting old island battle zones and they're absolute garbage heaps. (sorry, hope this doesn't cost President Trump the election!)

Posted by: Some Garbage Rat at December 05, 2024 10:59 PM (+VovS)

139
That "carrier" is probably a wooden mockup.
Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 again.

_______

Based on the finest Russian designs and built of secret formaldehyde-melamine alloy.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 05, 2024 10:59 PM (dxSpM)

140 Those hump pilots were insane.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 05, 2024 10:51 PM (VwHCD)

He said it was crazy flying. But he knew he was committed when they gave him and his copilot parachutes (standard issue) but they'd have to walk past a dozen troops to get to the door.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 05, 2024 11:00 PM (W/lyH)

141 People who smoke it get nose blind and can't believe how easily others can tell they are smoking it or have recently smoked it.

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at December 05, 2024 10:57 PM (elaR+)

Or they just don't give a shit. The stuff they got today you can't even open a bag without smelling it 2 houses away.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 05, 2024 11:02 PM (VwHCD)

142 That "carrier" is probably a wooden mockup.
Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 again.

_______

Based on the finest Russian designs and built of secret formaldehyde-melamine alloy.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Hopefully this class has the screen doors removed.

Posted by: Some Garbage Rat at December 05, 2024 11:03 PM (+VovS)

143 He said it was crazy flying. But he knew he was committed when they gave him and his copilot parachutes (standard issue) but they'd have to walk past a dozen troops to get to the door.
Posted by: Diogenes

Walk?
Try run.

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at December 05, 2024 11:03 PM (elaR+)

144
Or they just don't give a shit.

_________

This is the most likely reason.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 05, 2024 11:04 PM (dxSpM)

145 He said it was crazy flying. But he knew he was committed when they gave him and his copilot parachutes (standard issue) but they'd have to walk past a dozen troops to get to the door.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 05, 2024 11:00 PM (W/lyH)

Such was life on the aluminum trail.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 05, 2024 11:06 PM (VwHCD)

146 That looked like "relatively" calm seas to me, yet that DDG was absolutely wallowing.
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Not Navy but I would call that pitching.

Posted by: Braenyard

Last call, 2AM. Fat chick at the bar needs a couch.

Wait.

Totes not me. My friend. Swearsies.

Posted by: BifBewalski at December 05, 2024 11:07 PM (MsrgL)

147 The Navy gets the gravy, but the Army gets the beans.

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at December 05, 2024 11:07 PM (fGaR0)

148 Wait.

Totes not me. My friend. Swearsies.
Posted by: BifBewalski
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Not that kind of pitching.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 05, 2024 11:08 PM (7hflu)

149 88 My first ship as a newly commissioned Ensign was the USS Mullinnix DD 944. Fun fact, it was laid down the same year I was born, 1956.

Yes I'm over 29.

Posted by: Archer at December 05, 2024 10:30 PM (IDphi)
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Piker!

Posted by: Ciampino - 1956 was Suez Canal at December 05, 2024 11:08 PM (i0xsb)

150 Or they just don't give a shit. The stuff they got today you can't even open a bag without smelling it 2 houses away.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division

Too true.
The stiff has been refined in laboratories to have as much THC as possible.
The weak weed from the 60's and 70's is long gone.
Now you can get stuff with 80+% THC content.

And it is so popular it has overtaken alcohol.
People would rather get high than drunk. Alcohol sales are down in general.
DUI task forces bust more people that are high than drunk now last I heard.

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at December 05, 2024 11:08 PM (elaR+)

151 87 Thanks for the "Shane" memories.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 05, 2024 10:29 PM (0Htd1)

Yes, and love the book.

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at December 05, 2024 11:11 PM (fGaR0)

152 Another excellent ONT, Roger. Good evening, Horde.

Posted by: scampydog at December 05, 2024 11:11 PM (41CYW)

153 56 Finally some good news.
*****
Erebus, thoughts, prayers, and fingers crossed. But I believe you can ace this and be successful.

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at December 05, 2024 11:14 PM (IQ6Gq)

154 112 Trying to start an E-machines tower computer. Power on, fans are running, won't boot, no video out.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2024 10:45 PM (WtsT+)

Is your framistan hooked up correctly?

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at December 05, 2024 11:14 PM (fGaR0)

155 Her Majesty, who has to travel several times a year, complains that she's going first-class in the future, says that flights nowadays smell of pot and ass. I replied that you can put up with most things for three hours. This was a mistake.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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Sounds eerily similar. I too, made the mistake you mentioned.

Posted by: scampydog at December 05, 2024 11:17 PM (41CYW)

156 Is your framistan hooked up correctly?
Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at December 05, 2024 11:14 PM (fGaR0)

I think the fretzer switch is in the wrong position. Check and make sure it's in the full auto slot.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 again. at December 05, 2024 11:17 PM (89Sog)

157 Is your framistan hooked up correctly?
Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at December 05, 2024 11:14 PM (fGaR0)

I am beginning to wonder! Tried another computer, an HP desktop. Same thing. Appears to go through boot sequence, no video out. Tried another monitor, same thing. Changed BIOS battery, same thing. HD light flashes occasionally, as if it were trying to load OS, but zilch for video. The BIOS alone should give video output. Both machines have on-board video.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2024 11:18 PM (WtsT+)

158 I think the fretzer switch is in the wrong position. Check and make sure it's in the full auto slot.

Wait, they can have full auto in Canada?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 05, 2024 11:18 PM (lUFok)

159 149 88 My first ship as a newly commissioned Ensign was the USS Mullinnix DD 944. Fun fact, it was laid down the same year I was born, 1956.

Yes I'm over 29.

Posted by: Archer at December 05, 2024 10:30 PM (IDphi)
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Piker!
Posted by: Ciampino - 1956 was Suez Canal at December 05, 2024 11:08 PM (i0xsb)

Weirdly... one of my Spruance destroyers, was commissioned the year I joined the Navy... and was decommissioned before I retired.... it was then used for target practice and sits at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean.

Strange seeing as how we have B-52s flying who are 60+ years old.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2024 11:19 PM (QAkQ3)

160 I am beginning to wonder! Tried another computer, an HP desktop. Same thing. Appears to go through boot sequence, no video out. Tried another monitor, same thing. Changed BIOS battery, same thing. HD light flashes occasionally, as if it were trying to load OS, but zilch for video. The BIOS alone should give video output. Both machines have on-board video.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2024 11:18 PM (WtsT+)

Use the same video cable?

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2024 11:20 PM (QAkQ3)

161 51
Hallo! Theese is Steeeve. I will most happily do the needful for you today. Will you joyfully describe the compressor stall to me?

Posted by: Tonypete at December 05, 2024 10:16 PM (WXNFJ)
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That's funny.
I used to have great fun with the 'Medicare' calls.
When I didn't feel like dragging them for a couple of hours I would ask why Caller ID said "Illinois" but he just said NYC.

Posted by: Ciampino - caller id always got them at December 05, 2024 11:20 PM (i0xsb)

162 Use the same video cable?
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2024 11:20 PM (QAkQ3)

Nope. Best I can recall, I loaded both these boxen with Linux Mint 18, after wiping old Windoze away. And both ran fine.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2024 11:22 PM (WtsT+)

163 Is it the F8 or Delete key, hit it like a crack monkey during startup, get into bio maybe.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 05, 2024 11:25 PM (7hflu)

164 if it were trying to load OS, but zilch for video. The BIOS alone should give video output. Both machines have on-board video.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2024 11:18 PM (WtsT+)

My tv showed a black screen instead of video this week (had sound). I reseated the HDMI cable and video came back. Cable issue?

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at December 05, 2024 11:25 PM (RR89A)

165 ----
That's funny.
I used to have great fun with the 'Medicare' calls.
When I didn't feel like dragging them for a couple of hours I would ask why Caller ID said "Illinois" but he just said NYC.
Posted by: Ciampino
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My medicine plan, they reup you automatically , I found out is going up 40% this year, a lot of them are. I went shopping and cut it in half, half co-pay too. #2 days. 2 days only.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 05, 2024 11:29 PM (7hflu)

166 Of my 5 rescue cats from a restaurant parking lot, Scarlet got spayed today. She's back home and doing fine. She was the last of the five. We have 2 of Brie's 'baby' boys and the outside Mr Grey still to do when funds permit. Mr Grey is probably the daddy to Brie's litter of 6. Prolific. Domestic cats could supplant the dwindling humans and just keep a few people around for those opposable thumbs to open tuna cans.

Posted by: Ciampino - beware of yellow icicles? at December 05, 2024 11:30 PM (i0xsb)

167 I've spent 40 years of my life in aviation flying and it completely disinterests me now. Like running a Roto-tiller for 40 years. Imagine that.

Posted by: DBCooper at December 05, 2024 11:31 PM (y1Mvi)

168 AOP, this is probably an unlikely scenario, but if you ever did anything with video cards in those two machines you may have had to move a jumper to turn off the on-board video.

A configuration issue left over from testing parts could explain how two machines that otherwise have nothing in common failed the same way at the same time.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 05, 2024 11:32 PM (lUFok)

169 I have a 9HP Honda generator. Pull start. If I ever get my lawnmower back I'm going to put an electric start on it. You can buy the kit and it comes with a generator. Hadn't counted on that.
I planned on starting it with the truck and jumper cables. I'll probably still do it that way unless my lawnmower battery will turn it.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 05, 2024 11:35 PM (7hflu)

170 In keeping with tonight's theme, when I needed help bringing the ONT onto the deck off the SS AoS, all I had to do was call the ball. Thanks Roger!

Just got home from opening night of Saving Snow Valley, a play that attempts to out Hallmark Hallmark Christmas specials. The show went well. If you're in Tyler, we have 2 more shows, tomorrow at 5 and Saturday at 2 at Pollard Theatre Center. Admission is free, but we do hope you'll be moved to donate to Hope House, a charity here in ETC that helps abused kids. We even have a kick line! And yes, I'm in it. Look Ma, I'm a Rockette!

Anyhow, I leave y'all in Roger's capable hands, I'll. Be back tomorrow. Well, my ONT will be back, I'll be on stage. One of my fellow COBS is going to post it.

Posted by: Weirddave at December 05, 2024 11:37 PM (EwF6I)

171 Erebus, thoughts, prayers, and fingers crossed. But I believe you can ace this and be successful.
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady

Thank you

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at December 05, 2024 11:38 PM (elaR+)

172 This Christmas, I would like to suggest that you add We're No Angels to the list of movies you watch to celebrate the season? Make sure it's the 1955 version with Bogart.

http://tiny.cc/34gzzz

Posted by: tankdemon at December 05, 2024 11:39 PM (rYsEh)

173 157
Probably the video circuitry. Bad electrolytic capacitors, they don't age well since they have liquid inside. Back in the ISA Bus machines, the problem almost invariably was the video card.

Posted by: Ciampino - beware of bulging caps at December 05, 2024 11:39 PM (i0xsb)

174 "...that f'ker was a Messerschmidt!"
Posted by: just the punchline at December 05, 2024 10:17 PM (YoCnN)

Ja, only these Fokkers, they were flying Messerschmidts

Posted by: just the correct punchline at December 05, 2024 11:40 PM (JRP2U)

175 Scattered on the workbench: P-39 Airacobra that still needs a few bits added and some sanding and re-scribing before painting the camouflage, Bf 109K-4 in major subassemblies awaiting painting interior bits; and one Fw 190D-13 am gluing subassemblies now.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 05, 2024 11:43 PM (7YbTx)

176 My tv showed a black screen instead of video this week (had sound). I reseated the HDMI cable and video came back. Cable issue?
Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at December 05, 2024 11:25 PM (RR89A)

Well, this HP box has both VGA and HDMI video on it. And I found an HP monitor with an HDMI cable...so I thought. It doesn't fit! Socket on the Nvidia HDMI board has a million tiny holes in it, but no slot. Cable from the monitor is same basic shell, has about a dozen tinny pins in 3 rows, plus a large flat blade, for which there is no slot. Which is legit HDMI? I don't have any other HDMI shit.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2024 11:44 PM (WtsT+)

177 Revolver news:

How much lower can the FBI sink? Just when you think this disgraceful agency has hit rock bottom, they manage to dig even deeper. This time, it’s yet another DEI hire making a total mockery of the badge. Agent Nicholas Anthony Williams has been arrested and convicted for robbing people blind during home invasion raids—and yes, at least one of those raids targeted a January 6th political prisoner.

Posted by: SMOD at December 05, 2024 11:45 PM (GITLP)

178 169 I have a 9HP Honda generator. Pull start. If I ever get my lawnmower back I'm going to put an electric start on it.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 05, 2024 11:35 PM (7hflu)
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In today's climate this is racyss but here goes:
An Indian with a turban is a pull-start.
An Indian with a red dot is a push-start.
(An Indian with a feather is a foreplayer).

Posted by: Ciampino - I'm already standing in the corner at December 05, 2024 11:46 PM (i0xsb)

179 In today's climate this is racyss but here goes:
An Indian with a turban is a pull-start.
An Indian with a red dot is a push-start.
(An Indian with a feather is a foreplayer).
Posted by: Ciampino - I'm already standing in the corner at December 05, 2024 11:46 PM (i0xsb)

And a muslim Indian is a kick-start.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2024 11:47 PM (WtsT+)

180 169 I have a 9HP Honda generator. Pull start. If I ever get my lawnmower back I'm going to put an electric start on it. You can buy the kit and it comes with a generator. Hadn't counted on that.
I planned on starting it with the truck and jumper cables. I'll probably still do it that way unless my lawnmower battery will turn it.
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 05, 2024 11:35 PM (7hflu)

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Some of those larger pull start gensets will flat pull your shoulder outta the socket when they kick back. 'lectric start is sure the way to go. I have found that many of the batteries and starter motors a a bit undersized for the job, though. Not so much a problem with Honda.

Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 05, 2024 11:48 PM (vd6bO)

181
Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at December 05, 2024 10:18 PM (elaR+)

=================

Cool! I hope to be seriously job-hunting in 2025. San Diego would be nice, but yuck the salaries for such expensive real estate.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 05, 2024 11:50 PM (4JpLI)

182 Woot! I got it. Took out the HDMI board; its presence evidently inhibited the motherboard-based VGA video. Linux Mint 20 now running off a thumb drive.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2024 11:52 PM (WtsT+)

183 Cable from the monitor is same basic shell, has about a dozen tinny pins in 3 rows, plus a large flat blade, for which there is no slot. Which is legit HDMI?

Well, what you're describing sounds like this, which is VGA

http://tiny.cc/o7gzzz

Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 05, 2024 11:52 PM (Cbio9)

184 Good luck, Erebus.

Posted by: scampydog at December 05, 2024 11:52 PM (41CYW)

185 Now to power down, put the HD back in, and see what's on it. I have a brand new SSD to put in, and load with Mint 20.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2024 11:53 PM (WtsT+)

186 Or try to disable built in video card in the BIOS to see if the OS will recognize the video card in the slot.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 05, 2024 11:54 PM (7YbTx)

187 Domestic cats could supplant the dwindling humans and just keep a few people around for those opposable thumbs to open tuna cans.
Posted by: Ciampino - beware of yellow icicles? at December 05, 2024 11:30 PM (i0xsb)

Ciampino, could you occasionally post the GoFundMe for the cat rescue project?

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 05, 2024 11:54 PM (odZIb)

188 Probably the video circuitry. Bad electrolytic capacitors, they don't age well since they have liquid inside. Back in the ISA Bus machines, the problem almost invariably was the video card.

1999 to about 2007, the Chinese caps where they stole the electrolytic paste formula from a Japanese company and managed to only get half of it. Lots of those caps made it into computers.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 05, 2024 11:54 PM (lUFok)

189 Woot! I got it. Took out the HDMI board; its presence evidently inhibited the motherboard-based VGA video. Linux Mint 20 now running off a thumb drive.

Good work, sir!

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 05, 2024 11:55 PM (lUFok)

190 Well, what you're describing sounds like this, which is VGA

http://tiny.cc/o7gzzz
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 05, 2024 11:52 PM (Cbio9)

No, the oddball one seems to be a DVI.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2024 11:57 PM (WtsT+)

191 177
There's a uTube video on corrupt cops, where two cops, a man and woman, on an eviction raid, enter the house with only a teenager home, and go through stuff, pocketing jewelry and other items. Eventually the evicted discover the loss, lodge a complaint and the crimes surface. The stupid bitch was even wearing a piece of jewelry.
It was good to see cops going after other cops without hesitation.

Posted by: Ciampino - You gotta be stupid to do this at December 05, 2024 11:57 PM (i0xsb)

192 The Nvidia NVS 300 has DM59 port on it. So not HDMI. Trashcan fodder, then.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2024 11:58 PM (WtsT+)

193 Or they just don't give a shit. The stuff they got today you can't even open a bag without smelling it 2 houses away.

There's a dead skunk in the middle of the road.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 06, 2024 12:00 AM (mH6SG)

194
Daily Loud
@DailyLoud

Colombian hitwoman known as ‘The Doll’ reportedly arrested for several murders, including her ex-bf

https://tinyurl.com/5c2sxajr

Posted by: Mister Ghost at December 06, 2024 12:02 AM (TGPs7)

195 Do not know if you are following, but the last flying JRM-1 "Philippine Mars" a massive flying boat converted to a water bomber is about to leave her Coulson group lake in BC for the final time to be flown to? Florida? to be put on Permanente display.

Going to Pima Air and Space Museum in Tucson AZ, which I highly recommend to anyone who likes planes at all.

Posted by: azjaeger at December 06, 2024 12:04 AM (3/XaG)

196 OK, HD has Linux Mint 18.1 on it, and zero user (me) files.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2024 12:05 AM (WtsT+)

197 I'm old enough to remember when it was reasonable to assume the first orbital spaceliner would have a "Pan Am" logo on the side.

Posted by: Tom Alan Brosz at December 06, 2024 12:10 AM (+W6G0)

198 194
Daily Loud
@DailyLoud

Colombian hitwoman known as ‘The Doll’ reportedly arrested for several murders, including her ex-bf

https://tinyurl.com/5c2sxajr
Posted by: Mister Ghost
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She looks like a beauty contest winner or a lovely mother compared to the Tren de Agua woman la Barbie out in CA.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 06, 2024 12:10 AM (7hflu)

199
Here's what they contacted me with.

Job location: Oakland

The Corporate Sustainability team works to integrate PG&E’s sustainability commitment into the company’s business strategy across the “triple bottom line” of serving people, the planet, and California’s prosperity. With the support of PG&E’s Chief Sustainability Officer, the team works collaboratively to implement PG&E’s climate and environmental stewardship goals with a focus on better serving vulnerable communities throughout the energy transition; tell our story by measuring and communicating PG&E’s sustainability performance; identify, benchmark, and implement best practices to drive continuous improvement within our business; and engage with a wide range of stakeholders, including environmental and social justice and Native American Tribal communities, to guide and strengthen PG&E’s sustainability strategy.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 06, 2024 12:11 AM (4JpLI)

200 192 The Nvidia NVS 300 has DM59 port on it. So not HDMI. Trashcan fodder, then.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2024 11:58 PM (WtsT+)

From what I'm seeing.. yeah...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 06, 2024 12:11 AM (Cbio9)

201 103 Airfare to Singapore is stoooopid money. Mrs B went there 3 times in one year for her job. It was like 9K round trip for first class. She asked if I wanted to go. I said let me get this right. I have to buy my own ticket in coach for at least a few grand, and you're going to give up first class so we can sit 20-22 frigging hours packed like a sardine to visit a place with 1000% humidity where gum is illegal? Have fun, send me a postcard.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division

Need to bring back travelogues shown at the local high school gym so we can experience 3rd world countries from the safety of a folding chair.
Posted by: Some Garbage Rat at December 05, 2024 10:41 PM (+VovS)

Singapore is not 3rd World. Not even close.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 06, 2024 12:11 AM (SsUR/)

202 I finished my Massive Darkness 2 painting, and I bought an expansion that went on my huge pile of unpainted stuff.

I have more unpainted stuff than painted, but it's getting closer.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 06, 2024 12:13 AM (lhenN)

203 Blonde Morticia

Should reply back, 'oh we are building a BRIDGE'

They are baking into and making a poison pill of DEI.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 06, 2024 12:14 AM (7YbTx)

204 Colombian hitwoman known as ‘The Doll’ reportedly arrested for several murders, including her ex-bf

https://tinyurl.com/5c2sxajr
Posted by: Mister Ghost
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She looks like a beauty contest winner or a lovely mother compared to the Tren de Agua woman la Barbie out in CA.
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 06, 2024 12:10 AM (7hflu)

Wow - talk about your hot/crazy matrix!

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 06, 2024 12:14 AM (W6hoT)

205 Running install of Mint 20 onto 120 gB Kingston SSD.

Boots real fast.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2024 12:15 AM (WtsT+)

206 Hey Horde, how are you all?

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 06, 2024 12:19 AM (Sgq8y)

207 188
1999 to about 2007, the Chinese caps where they stole the electrolytic paste formula from a Japanese company and managed to only get half of it. Lots of those caps made it into computers.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 05, 2024 11:54 PM (lUFok)
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Yes, the organization where I did IT support, had several years of Dells like that. Everyone suffered: Dell, HP, etc. as they all sourced from the same supplier. Also lots of other electronics not just PCs.
The story I got is that a manufacturer used a stolen formula but it was a rejected formula with no oxidizer!! The resulting buildup of hydrogen gas would pop/explode the capacitor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague

Posted by: Ciampino - You gotta be stupid at December 06, 2024 12:20 AM (i0xsb)

208 My 3D printer hobby might be becoming an addiction, I think I need to add another printer.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 06, 2024 12:20 AM (XV/Pl)

209
Hey, Debby, pretty good, how about you?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 06, 2024 12:20 AM (4JpLI)

210 204 Colombian hitwoman known as ‘The Doll’ reportedly arrested for several murders, including her ex-bf

https://tinyurl.com/5c2sxajr
Posted by: Mister Ghost

Those eyes. My ex looked at me with eyes like that. That's why I got the restraining order...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 06, 2024 12:21 AM (Cbio9)

211 Grumpy cat rescued by cops after weaving through traffic in California

https://mol.im/a/14163123

Posted by: Ciampino - Beautiful cat at December 06, 2024 12:24 AM (i0xsb)

212 Drags self back to the ONT to say o'nara. The web is a warren - a room of windy passages leading ever deeper.

Sometimes it turns up some fun
https://youtu.be/OAB_An4fYwU

G'nite, y'all.

Posted by: mindful webworker - aw revwaw de noche at December 06, 2024 12:26 AM (8eJeY)

213 Just peeking in

Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2024 12:29 AM (fwDg9)

214 210 204 Colombian hitwoman known as ‘The Doll’ reportedly arrested for several murders, including her ex-bf

https://tinyurl.com/5c2sxajr
Posted by: Mister Ghost

Those eyes. My ex looked at me with eyes like that. That's why I got the restraining order...
Posted by: Joe Kidd

Yea, she's got a lot of hate in her.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2024 12:31 AM (YoT4f)

215 211: That's a big ole Persian kittuh!

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2024 12:31 AM (YoT4f)

216 UnitedHealthcare disables social media comments as disgruntled patients flood sites after CEO Brian Thompson's death

https://mol.im/a/14162829

Posted by: Ciampino - fodder for the cops? at December 06, 2024 12:36 AM (i0xsb)

217 Colombian hitwoman known as ‘The Doll’ reportedly arrested for several murders, including her ex-bf

https://tinyurl.com/5c2sxajr
Posted by: Mister Ghost

Those eyes. My ex looked at me with eyes like that. That's why I got the restraining order...
Posted by: Joe Kidd

Yea, she's got a lot of hate in her.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2024 12:31 AM (YoT4f)

Chucky with tits.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2024 12:38 AM (VwHCD)

218 Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield U-turns after killing of healthcare CEO

https://mol.im/a/14163485

Posted by: Ciampino - conscience? at December 06, 2024 12:38 AM (i0xsb)

219 217
Chucky with tits.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2024 12:38 AM (VwHCD)
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Chucky's Bride had Jennifer Tilly - I found her very pleasing to the eyes.

Posted by: Ciampino - and nice bewbs at December 06, 2024 12:40 AM (i0xsb)

220 Chilling excuse California gunman gave to shoot two kindergartners

https://mol.im/a/14161687

Posted by: Ciampino - thow the big tome at December 06, 2024 12:43 AM (i0xsb)

221 219 217
Chucky with tits.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2024 12:38 AM (VwHCD)
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Chucky's Bride had Jennifer Tilly - I found her very pleasing to the eyes.
Posted by: Ciampino

So's this Columbian broad. It's all fun and games until this angel shoves a machete through your chest.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2024 12:45 AM (YoT4f)

222 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 06, 2024 12:11 AM

That there is one impressive woke word salad. Damn.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 06, 2024 12:45 AM (mH6SG)

223 Well, after a fruitless search for another Ethernet cable, unplugged the Windoze box, and plugged into this one. Internet seems to work.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2024 12:47 AM (WtsT+)

224 This was rehersed, it's not something a kid would be considering: 'transgender' child tells parents its fear

https://mol.im/a/14160027

Posted by: Ciampino - One more that won't reproduce at December 06, 2024 12:50 AM (i0xsb)

225 224

rehearsed

Posted by: Ciampino - One more that won't reproduce at December 06, 2024 12:51 AM (i0xsb)

226 Chucky's Bride had Jennifer Tilly - I found her very pleasing to the eyes.
Posted by: Ciampino - and nice bewbs at December 06, 2024 12:40 AM (i0xsb)

I laughed when I found out how Tilly became a millionairess. She was married for something like 7 years to some guy involved with the Simpsons. In the divorce, he gave her some %age of the show. Now she's a voice on The Family Guy.

Posted by: RickZ at December 06, 2024 12:54 AM (gKDq2)

227 221
So's this Columbian broad. It's all fun and games until this angel shoves a machete through your chest.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2024 12:45 AM (YoT4f)
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LOL
More of a slashing tool, not so good as a thrusting item. Standard garden equipment in Africa and in kiSwahili it is called a panga. Trims hedges and lawn edges, cuts heavy bush but best of all, it is used to harvest sugarcane hence it's also known as a cane knife.

Posted by: Ciampino - has been used to extract teeth at December 06, 2024 01:00 AM (i0xsb)

228 >>>Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 06, 2024 12:11 AM
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If you live in CA that's the deal. Just be a meme and collect your check. If you don't live in CA you can do better.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 06, 2024 01:00 AM (7hflu)

229 There! Installed Brave browser, and it's working. It is stunning how fast a program install goes when you run it Terminal.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2024 01:01 AM (WtsT+)

230 Blond Morticia, I am well thank you, I hope that you are too.

Bers, Chucky with tits elicited a hearty chuckle out of me. Good to see you, say hi to Mrs. B for me.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 06, 2024 01:03 AM (Sgq8y)

231 ----
LOL
More of a slashing tool, not so good as a thrusting item. Standard garden equipment in Africa and in kiSwahili it is called a panga. Trims hedges and lawn edges, cuts heavy bush but best of all, it is used to harvest sugarcane hence it's also known as a cane knife.
Posted by: Ciampino
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Good steel it can cut your arm half off - maybe all.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 06, 2024 01:03 AM (7hflu)

232 You run the program from terminal or download from terminal?

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 06, 2024 01:05 AM (7hflu)

233 Bers, Chucky with tits elicited a hearty chuckle out of me. Good to see you, say hi to Mrs. B for me.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 06, 2024 01:03 AM (Sgq8y)

Will do. How are things with you?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2024 01:06 AM (VwHCD)

234 You run the program from terminal or download from terminal?
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 06, 2024 01:05 AM (7hflu)

Went to Brave website. It gave me the the command lines (sudo apt get, etc.). Copied and pasted into Terminal, hit enter after each one. Took all of 5 minutes, and no reboot needed.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2024 01:09 AM (WtsT+)

235 Is 'Terminal' a Linux program, function?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 06, 2024 01:09 AM (XeU6L)

236 Outrageous moment trans women take over US Capitol's restroom in protest

https://mol.im/a/14161623

Is this an insurrection then?

Posted by: Ciampino - teargas then lock them in at December 06, 2024 01:11 AM (i0xsb)

237 I will take this HP box with me when I go south to AZ. The computer I have there is getting flaky, and can be very hard to get started. Won't take the monitor or keyboard, though. And I will take a laptop, as well, to use while on the road.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2024 01:12 AM (WtsT+)

238 235: Terminal is the Linux CLI.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2024 01:14 AM (YoT4f)

239 The gene that means you can't handle your alcohol: New test reveals if you've got it

https://mol.im/a/14161241

Is there a pill for that?

Posted by: Ciampino - amphetamines work at December 06, 2024 01:15 AM (i0xsb)

240 Is 'Terminal' a Linux program, function?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 06, 2024 01:09 AM (XeU6L)

Terminal is the command-line interface, like bringing up a DOS window. Type in commands, press "enter" to execute. There are numerous places to look up the right commands, so I can just copy and paste. Avoids typos.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2024 01:16 AM (WtsT+)

241 YouTuber Elliot Eastman, 26, shot dead and dumped at sea after he was kidnapped

https://mol.im/a/14160627

Posted by: Ciampino - I draw a blank at December 06, 2024 01:17 AM (i0xsb)

242 I have a very shaky grasp of Linux command line syntax. But there is so much online support, it's really not all that hard. Many commands have switches, like they do in DOS.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2024 01:19 AM (WtsT+)

243 Linux also has Software Manager that allows you to bypass Terminal for many download. Software Mgr is a search feature that allows a one click download. Depends on what you are more comfortable with. Sometimes you must use Terminal.

I did something that bugged the system so I used TimeShift which is SystemRestore in Windows. It was necessary to use the command line Terminal.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 06, 2024 01:21 AM (7hflu)

244 I am good, Bers, still misbehaving, Christmas being both a sad and happy time.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 06, 2024 01:23 AM (Sgq8y)

245 Linux also has Software Manager that allows you to bypass Terminal for many download. Software Mgr is a search feature that allows a one click download. Depends on what you are more comfortable with. Sometimes you must use Terminal.

I did something that bugged the system so I used TimeShift which is SystemRestore in Windows. It was necessary to use the command line Terminal.
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 06, 2024 01:21 AM (7hflu)

Software Manage can take a looong time to populate the list. The command line method is faster.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2024 01:24 AM (WtsT+)

246 >>>There are numerous places to look up the right commands, so I can just copy and paste. Avoids typos.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Yes, unlike Windows if you get an error message you can copy it to a page And also, like he said, from most help pages or programs they walk you through the commands and, again, you can copy/paste them into the command lines. Much less frustrating.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 06, 2024 01:26 AM (7hflu)

247 I am going to shut this machine down, now. I will pack the old 500 gig HD with Mint 18.1 on it inside the box, just to keep it with its home machine.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2024 01:27 AM (WtsT+)

248 242 I have a very shaky grasp of Linux command line syntax. But there is so much online support, it's really not all that hard. Many commands have switches, like they do in DOS.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Notsothoreau is very knowledgeable, she sits and watches. She'd be a good hunter.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 06, 2024 01:30 AM (7hflu)

249 Back on the Windoze box.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2024 01:32 AM (WtsT+)

250 Banking to clients: FU

"People use the term ‘rollback,’” Wenzel said. “As a company, we haven’t spent any real time thinking about that.”

https://tinyurl.com/3p5xsfjm

Posted by: Ciampino - bankers & politicians at December 06, 2024 01:36 AM (i0xsb)

251 When win10 loses support, I'll switch to Linux. Got almost a year to play around with it on another 'puter.

Time to hit the books, I guess?

Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 01:36 AM (YoCnN)

252 I think Pixy said something about support ending in January.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 06, 2024 01:41 AM (7hflu)

253 When win10 loses support, I'll switch to Linux. Got almost a year to play around with it on another 'puter.

Time to hit the books, I guess?
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 01:36 AM (YoCnN)

"Support" is vastly overrated. If the old system works, don't mess with it. This box runs Win7, and it's been unsupported for years. If and when it breaks, it goes to Linux, too. But if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2024 01:41 AM (WtsT+)

254 250 Banking to clients: FU
---

I only put in a little more than I need. They make money off what we leave there and it supports them to de-bank friends.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 06, 2024 01:44 AM (7hflu)

255 JQ, Congrats on being numero uno tonight, well done young lady!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 06, 2024 01:44 AM (Sgq8y)

256 Hmm. Maybe I can resurrect my old w7 box... I really *liked* w7!

AOP, what do you use for antivirus on your w7?

Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 01:44 AM (YoCnN)

257 Thanks, Debby! It was happenstance, LOL.

Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 01:46 AM (YoCnN)

258 Hmm. Maybe I can resurrect my old w7 box... I really *liked* w7!

AOP, what do you use for antivirus on your w7?
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 01:44 AM (YoCnN)

Whatever came with Windows.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2024 01:46 AM (WtsT+)

259 I am good, Bers, still misbehaving, Christmas being both a sad and happy time.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 06, 2024 01:23 AM (Sgq8y)

Misbehaving is good. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2024 01:47 AM (VwHCD)

260 AOP again, what anti-v for Linux? Or, is it needed?

Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 01:48 AM (YoCnN)

261 AOP again, what anti-v for Linux? Or, is it needed?
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 01:48 AM (YoCnN)

I never installed one. Might be one native to the build? Linux is pretty resistant to malware, I believe.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2024 01:50 AM (WtsT+)

262 "Support" is vastly overrated. If the old system works, don't mess with it. This box runs Win7, and it's been unsupported for years. If and when it breaks, it goes to Linux, too. But if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Support was a little different when I left. Example: FireFox dropped support when windows did. And taking a hint from Microsoft you can't go back to places like Tucows, who don't exist anymore and download a version of FF. Nowdays when a program stops support all the old versions disappear - that was my experience.

They've rigged the system to herd users further into their cr@p.
Viva Linux.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 06, 2024 01:51 AM (7hflu)

263 Cool. Thanks, AOP.

Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 01:51 AM (YoCnN)

264 252 I think Pixy said something about support ending in January.
Posted by: Braenyard

Win10 support ends Oct 2025.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2024 01:52 AM (YoT4f)

265 242 I have a very shaky grasp of Linux command line syntax. But there is so much online support, it's really not all that hard. Many commands have switches, like they do in DOS.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2024 01:19 AM (WtsT+)
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Those inane commands and command line switches inherited from UNIX is what kept Linux back forever.
sed, sudo, who would guess that cat = list/scroll the text file? man = Help! An uppercase switch is different to a lowercase one.
I loved rm -r
(In 6809 FLEX cat produces a directory listing like DIR, you know catalog.)

This is where one produces a clickable interface to do the same job. Hence Desktop Linux distros ....... or Windows.
DOS was arcane for most users for this reason too.

Posted by: Ciampino - Linux eh! at December 06, 2024 01:53 AM (i0xsb)

266 Morticia, that is some authentic gobbledygook.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 06, 2024 01:53 AM (KAi1n)

267 I used Avast free for 5 years also used their $15. VPN.
You could actually talk to a human service person.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 06, 2024 01:54 AM (7hflu)

268 Support was a little different when I left. Example: FireFox dropped support when windows did. And taking a hint from Microsoft you can't go back to places like Tucows, who don't exist anymore and download a version of FF. Nowdays when a program stops support all the old versions disappear - that was my experience.

They've rigged the system to herd users further into their cr@p.
Viva Linux.
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 06, 2024 01:51 AM (7hflu)

It's pretty damned hard to find a downloadable image for Linux Mint 18.1, too. The Mint people stopped supporting it, which sucks for those folks with legacy 32-bit computers.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2024 01:55 AM (WtsT+)

269 This box is a w10. Thankfully, the hardware won't take 11, so the "upgrade" couldn't be forced onto it. Heh.

Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 01:56 AM (YoCnN)

270 I used to think AoS was a "community." Nope. Venerable favorite commenter Vic disrespected. Not to mention the freaking 1990 web interface. I'm not going to donate any more; Ace hasn’t even cared enough about his supporters to enable standard internet features: live links, embedding images, editing comments.

Posted by: dick van dyke's trousers with a powder burn at December 06, 2024 01:57 AM (dSco/)

271 Good evening, good people, from the snowy Adirondacks where the squeakers just realized snow is an inconvenience.

Anyway, may all your effort today and all other days result in maximum benefit to you and maximum aggravation to the leftwits among us.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at December 06, 2024 01:57 AM (hKoQL)

272 This is where one produces a clickable interface to do the same job. Hence Desktop Linux distros ....... or Windows.
DOS was arcane for most users for this reason too.
Posted by: Ciampino - Linux eh! at December 06, 2024 01:53 AM (i0xsb)

Thing is, most sites that want to show you how to do a particular command-line chore will show a list of commands that you can simply copy and paste to execute the sequence. IIRC, "sudo" means "super user domain"? Meaning root access. Type sudo + anything, and you get a password prompt.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2024 01:59 AM (WtsT+)

273 Ace hasn’t even cared enough about his supporters to enable standard internet features: live links, embedding images, editing comments.
Posted by: dick van dyke's trousers with a powder burn at December 06, 2024 01:57 AM (dSco/)

Those features were taken out because fucktards like yourself abused them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2024 02:01 AM (WtsT+)

274 Posted by: dick van dyke's trousers with a powder burn at December 06, 2024 01:57 AM (dSco/)
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Ya know... there's always Insty or HotAir or whatever.

Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 02:02 AM (YoCnN)

275 If insurance companies weren't evil trying to stop medicare for all and refusing to pay for treatment so many people wouldn't be glad of ceo killing.

Posted by: raimondo at December 06, 2024 02:05 AM (wb34Q)

276 I *LIKE* not having pics cluttering up the landscape here! Live links would be okay, but I know how to copy/paste/go on a posted "link"

Meh. It's like reading a book, vs. looking at a comic book.

Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 02:06 AM (YoCnN)

277 Thank you for the enjoyable snark! But I love AoS, and I've been here since the Obama years. The content is first-rate. But it's not a flounce when thousands of potential subscribers or donators find the site just too limp and outdated.

Posted by: dick van dyke's trousers with a powder burn at December 06, 2024 02:06 AM (dSco/)

278 Posted by: raimondo at December 06, 2024 02:05 AM (wb34Q)

Obama fucked up medicare because you didn't suck his dick enthusiastically enough. It's all your fault.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2024 02:07 AM (WtsT+)

279 As far as the "Vic thing" goes...

Well-- either they *can't* or they *won't* add to the list. Not my blog.

Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 02:08 AM (YoCnN)

280 270 I used to think AoS was a "community." Nope. Venerable favorite commenter Vic disrespected. Not to mention the freaking 1990 web interface. I'm not going to donate any more; Ace hasn’t even cared enough about his supporters to enable standard internet features: live links, embedding images, editing comments.
Posted by: dick van dyke's trousers
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They showed their faces when they refused to put Vic up with his friends.

Not going to a more modern system is a, I think, a safety feature for us and the system.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 06, 2024 02:08 AM (7hflu)

281 But it's not a flounce when thousands of potential subscribers or donators find the site just too limp and outdated.
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Wheat. Chaff.

Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 02:09 AM (YoCnN)

282 "Outdated" is part of the charm, here, and it acts as a barrier to the Trudeau-loving homo faggot spammers, too.

I, too, would like to see Vic's name on the Absent Friends list, but coming in here and acting like an asshole while demanding it is scarcely the best way to improve the situation.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2024 02:10 AM (WtsT+)

283 Well-- either they *can't* or they *won't* add to the list. Not my blog.
Posted by: JQ
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If it were a technical problem they would have talked to us about it. What we receive in response is d.e.a.d _s.i.l.e.n.c.e.
Not my blog either but it's good to know who and what you are dealing with.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 06, 2024 02:12 AM (7hflu)

284 I, too, would like to see Vic's name on the Absent Friends list, but coming in here and acting like an asshole while demanding it is scarcely the best way to improve the situation.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2024 02:10 AM (WtsT+)

Vic is no longer with us??

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2024 02:12 AM (VwHCD)

285 Rainmandodo---

The gubbermint fk's up everything it touches. And you want it to run ALL of "healthcare"?

Go back to the basement and sit on your mommy's friend's lap like she told you...

Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 02:13 AM (YoCnN)

286 Wheat. Chaff.
Posted by: JQ
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Agree.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 06, 2024 02:13 AM (7hflu)

287 If it were a technical problem they would have talked to us about it. What we receive in response is d.e.a.d _s.i.l.e.n.c.e.
Not my blog either but it's good to know who and what you are dealing with.
Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 06, 2024 02:12 AM (7hflu)

Somebody is dragging his feet. Eventually, I think, we will see Vic's name there. As I recall, it took a long time for Captain Hate to be added to the list, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2024 02:13 AM (WtsT+)

288 Sadly, Bers, it's true. Vic passed a month or so ago.

Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 02:14 AM (YoCnN)

289 Vic is no longer with us??
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2024 02:12 AM (VwHCD)

He passed, for real, back in October, I think. There was a link to his Obit and Memorial Wall in the right sidebar for a while.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2024 02:15 AM (WtsT+)

290 Vic is no longer with us??
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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Vic's been gone a month. It was posted and an address for his obituary. Many of signed his obituary more of us simply visited.
Management refuses to put his name up in the Absent Friends roster.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 06, 2024 02:16 AM (7hflu)

291 I'd love to see Vic commemorated here, but if it's not to be, then I'll hold him in memory instead.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at December 06, 2024 02:16 AM (hKoQL)

292 Thing is, most sites that want to show you how to do a particular command-line chore will show a list of commands that you can simply copy and paste to execute the sequence. IIRC, "sudo" means "super user domain"? Meaning root access. Type sudo + anything, and you get a password prompt.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2024 01:59 AM (WtsT+)
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Yes I was an occasional UNIX/XENIX user and early Linux (Slackware when it came in about 30 floppies). I was trying to say that sudo is not obvious to an English speaker, administrator is. copy/paste/cut are recognizable but the corresponding command line ones are not.

Posted by: Ciampino - Linux eh! at December 06, 2024 02:17 AM (i0xsb)

293 Sadly, Bers, it's true. Vic passed a month or so ago.

Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 02:14 AM (YoCnN)

Damn. I was a little scarce this year. I had to recover after the surgery and get the house finally done, so I missed a lot.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2024 02:18 AM (VwHCD)

294 Yes I was an occasional UNIX/XENIX user and early Linux (Slackware when it came in about 30 floppies). I was trying to say that sudo is not obvious to an English speaker, administrator is. copy/paste/cut are recognizable but the corresponding command line ones are not.
Posted by: Ciampino - Linux eh! at December 06, 2024 02:17 AM (i0xsb)

Well, my point is simply that one does not have to have any sort of fluency at all in command-line jargon, when you can go to a web site, and simply copy and paste commands to Terminal. Monkey see, monkey do. It's still way easier than installing a windows program.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2024 02:20 AM (WtsT+)

295 282 "Outdated" is part of the charm. I, too, would like to see Vic's name on the Absent Friends list, but coming in here and acting like an asshole

I've been supporting this, my favorite site, for years. I've never been an asshole, although several commenters have treated me as such.

Posted by: dick van dyke's trousers with a powder burn at December 06, 2024 02:20 AM (dSco/)

296 291 I'd love to see Vic commemorated here, but if it's not to be, then I'll hold him in memory instead.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA
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I'm going to be an ass and take advantage of that statement.
No offense intended.

Vic's passing is not the hill to die on.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 06, 2024 02:21 AM (7hflu)

297 Well I am off to bed, Horde, I am really chilly, so I shall sip my last sip to Vic, I think he is quite happy if we just remember him from time to time.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 06, 2024 02:24 AM (Sgq8y)

298 I've been supporting this, my favorite site, for years. I've never been an asshole, although several commenters have treated me as such.
Posted by: dick van dyke's trousers with a powder burn at December 06, 2024 02:20 AM (dSco/)

Dissing the "1990's Web interface" sounds pretty assholish to me, considering that is very much part of the whole feel of the place. There's always some dweeb that pipes up and wants Disqus threaded comments.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2024 02:25 AM (WtsT+)

299 270: youtu.be/r9TcXmBNbtM

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2024 02:26 AM (YoT4f)

300 Well I am off to bed, Horde, I am really chilly, so I shall sip my last sip to Vic, I think he is quite happy if we just remember him from time to time.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 06, 2024 02:24 AM (Sgq8y)

Night, Debby. I am off to the snoozer, too. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2024 02:26 AM (WtsT+)

301 Well I'll guess I'll raise a glass to Vic. Well, a swig from a bottle of jameson anyway. I don't think he'll mind that I didn't use a glass. RIP Vic.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2024 02:27 AM (VwHCD)

302 Dissing the "1990's Web interface" sounds pretty assholish to me,

Sorry AOP, I design websites for a living.

Posted by: dick van dyke's trousers with a powder burn at December 06, 2024 02:28 AM (dSco/)

303 I thought Vic was an unlikeable asshole. I still think the apparent choice not to put him in the sidebar is low-class.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 06, 2024 02:28 AM (QPCEj)

304 Apparently none of the Cobs know how to edit that list of Missing Friends in spite of recent additions. Pixy said he'd check. Let's wait and see.

Posted by: Ciampino - benefit of the doubt at December 06, 2024 02:29 AM (i0xsb)

305 Night, Debby & AOP

*clinks glass with Bers' bottle*

Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 02:30 AM (YoCnN)

306 That was beautiful, Puddleglum, thanks.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 06, 2024 02:30 AM (Sgq8y)

307 Apparently none of the Cobs know how to edit that list of Missing Friends in spite of recent additions. Pixy said he'd check. Let's wait and see.

Posted by: Ciampino - benefit of the doubt at December 06, 2024 02:29 AM (i0xsb)

Recent additions? I'm afraid to look.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2024 02:30 AM (VwHCD)

308 There are the 'help' folks who provide clear solution and copy/paste commands. The program providers do the same. But there is a chasm between those folks and the responders who explain the how and why. Their expectation of your knowledge base leaves out too much explanation. I suspect that they are the reason it has taken so long for Linux to become popular.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 06, 2024 02:32 AM (7hflu)

309
Morticia, that is some authentic gobbledygook.
Posted by: SFGoth

=====

That there is one impressive woke word salad. Damn.
Posted by: Notorious BFD

====================

How does it make us all feel to know that's the largest energy utility in Cali and one of the largest in the country?

And you should see my bill.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 06, 2024 02:33 AM (4JpLI)

310 I'm lucky I didn't make that list. I got tested just in time. I don't think I had weeks left. I got real lucky.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2024 02:33 AM (VwHCD)

311 Posted by: Ciampino - benefit of the doubt
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Yes. Pixy said he'd email the cob list.

Look at the front page, though. The Absent List space is filled. Probably need to edit for size? Everybody is busy. I prefer to think it's merely oversight & will eventually be resolved.

Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 02:33 AM (YoCnN)

312
"Support" is vastly overrated. If the old system works, don't mess with it. This box runs Win7, and it's been unsupported for years. If and when it breaks, it goes to Linux, too. But if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Win 8.1 on this latop. Never updated.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 06, 2024 02:35 AM (XeU6L)

313 306 That was beautiful, Puddleglum, thanks.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz

Heh! That was for the stompy foot poster.

It is a lovely song. Great soundtrack overall.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2024 02:36 AM (YoT4f)

314 304 Apparently none of the Cobs know how to edit that list of Missing Friends in spite of recent additions. Pixy said he'd check. Let's wait and see.
Posted by: Ciampino
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Ciampino, you are a gentleman.
I believe if they wanted Vic with the others they would have made a point to the Horde that they were working on it. Their silence is telling.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 06, 2024 02:36 AM (7hflu)

315 Look at the front page, though. The Absent List space is filled. Probably need to edit for size? Everybody is busy. I prefer to think it's merely oversight & will eventually be resolved.
Posted by: JQ
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I suspect either a technical problem, or, good reason.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 06, 2024 02:36 AM (XeU6L)

316 Recent additions? I'm afraid to look.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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Not very "recent"-- early 2024, like March at latest? Bander was a shock, Gnu was on hospice.

Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 02:36 AM (YoCnN)

317 Those features were taken out because fucktards like yourself abused them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 06, 2024 02:01 AM (WtsT+)

This. Don’t like it? Piss off. Not your blog.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 06, 2024 02:37 AM (wbIUs)

318 Not very "recent"-- early 2024, like March at latest? Bander was a shock, Gnu was on hospice.

Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 02:36 AM (YoCnN)

what actually happened to Bander?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2024 02:37 AM (VwHCD)

319 310: What happened to you, Ber? I knew you had health issues. Never read what exactly.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2024 02:37 AM (YoT4f)

320 what actually happened to Bander?
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IDK.

Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 02:39 AM (YoCnN)

321 320 what actually happened to Bander?
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IDK.
Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 02:39 AM (YoCnN)

I may be misremembering, but I thought he had a stroke sometime recently before passing ...

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 06, 2024 02:42 AM (QPCEj)

322 What happened to you, Ber? I knew you had health issues. Never read what exactly.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2024 02:37 AM (YoT4f)

I ended up with a quad bypass. I was a little short of breath trying to kickstart an old harley. Then that week went I went to lay in bed on my back I couldn't breath, and I also started feeling an intermittent thump in my chest. I got my ass to a cardiologist who fast tracked me because he knew there was something wrong. Had a catheterization and poof. 2 artieries 100% blocked, widowmaker 95% blocked, and the 4th artery was 85% blocked. Away i went.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2024 02:44 AM (VwHCD)

323 Holy sh!t, Bers!

Glad you got fixed up!

Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 02:47 AM (YoCnN)

324 S. Korea live
https://youtu.be/6FERXEfvA5k

Posted by: Ciampino - he needs to resign at December 06, 2024 02:48 AM (i0xsb)

325 Found it...

Vic's obit/memorial:

tinyurl.com/2aj4mjac

Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 02:53 AM (YoCnN)

326 Well, damn Ber. You don't fuck around with health issues. Just go all in! Glad you're upright.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2024 02:55 AM (YoT4f)

327 Holy sh!t, Bers!

Glad you got fixed up!

Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 02:47 AM (YoCnN)

Fixed up is an understatement. I feel like I'm 20 again. I healed up super fast, because I picked my surgeon, and he's one of the best in the country. Right in north jersey. He did my mom's triple bypass 20 years ago and she healed up like nothing I ever saw. I always said if I end up like that I want THAT guy. Turns out my cardiologist knows him and texted him directly. I was lucky because my heart was good, no damage because i didn't have a heart attack, so it was smooth sailing.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2024 02:59 AM (VwHCD)

328 Woah

Posted by: SFGoth at December 06, 2024 03:01 AM (KAi1n)

329 Wow, Bers. Amazing!

Welcome back, btw

Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 03:01 AM (YoCnN)

330 Korean protesters outside the National Assembly demanding President Yoon Suk Yeol's resignation over his botched attempt to impose martial law.
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Two dignitaries, one from Japan and one from the Netherlands? have cancelled their planned December visits.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 06, 2024 03:01 AM (7hflu)

331 Oppenheimer star Emma Dumont comes out as trans masculine non-binary

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha -- I can't stop laughing. So Emma you are Unary or Tertiary?
Do you revolve around yourself?
Is trans-masculine different to trans-male?

https://mol.im/a/14163793

Posted by: Ciampino - somebody needs to come out as octal or infinite at December 06, 2024 03:02 AM (i0xsb)

332 Oppenheimer star Emma Dumont comes out as trans masculine non-binary

So she's the one who wears the strap-on?!?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 06, 2024 03:04 AM (QPCEj)

333 Those features were taken out because fucktards like yourself abused them. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

AOP: I'm a conservative, constitutional doofus. I donate to AoS and CJN. Why are you so abusive? We're on the same side of every issue.

Posted by: dick van dyke's trousers with a powder burn at December 06, 2024 03:05 AM (dSco/)

334 AOP: I'm a conservative, constitutional doofus. I donate to AoS and CJN. Why are you so abusive? We're on the same side of every issue.
Posted by: dick van dyke's trousers with a powder burn at December 06, 2024 03:05 AM (dSco/)

Being Canadian is a terrible burden. Try to be patient.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 06, 2024 03:07 AM (QPCEj)

335 So... this "Emma" thing is now Neuter, right? Non-binary IS neuter. Which means there is no "trans" because *that* admits change from one to another, which cannot be, because neuter.

Masculine/feminine is binary! So...can't be THAT either.

Gawd, that ~~chick~~ thing is messed up!

Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 03:07 AM (YoCnN)

336 "Oppenheimer star Emma Dumont comes out as trans masculine non-binary"

I came out as a metal masculine uber binary royal staff sportin' mutha fuckin fighter jet. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2024 03:08 AM (VwHCD)

337 Damn. I was a little scarce this year. I had to recover after the surgery and get the house finally done, so I missed a lot.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2024 02:18 AM (VwHCD)

Know the feeling. Was away from here for awhile. When I came back, I noticed there wasn't a Saturday Chess Thread.

Posted by: RickZ at December 06, 2024 03:10 AM (gKDq2)

338 Being Canadian is a terrible burden. Try to be patient.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 06, 2024 03:07 AM (QPCEj)
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Awesome comeback, dude!

Posted by: dick van dyke's trousers with a powder burn at December 06, 2024 03:10 AM (dSco/)

339 "Oppenheimer star Emma Dumont comes out as trans masculine non-binary"

I came out as a metal masculine uber binary royal staff sportin' mutha fuckin fighter jet. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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*has flashbacks of former commenter "Empire of Jeff"*

Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 03:11 AM (YoCnN)

340 *has flashbacks of former commenter "Empire of Jeff"*

Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 03:11 AM (YoCnN)

I miss that dude. He was off the charts.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2024 03:13 AM (VwHCD)

341 325 Found it...

Vic's obit/memorial:

tinyurl.com/2aj4mjac
Posted by: JQ
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Many comments from AoSHQ members at the Tribute Wall.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 06, 2024 03:13 AM (7hflu)

342 Vic's obit/memorial:

tinyurl.com/2aj4mjac
Posted by: JQ

Link isn't working for me for some reason.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2024 03:14 AM (VwHCD)

343 Bers, maybe manually add the https://www. in front of it?

I usually cut all that stuff off, to keep the margins narrow.

Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 03:16 AM (YoCnN)

344 342 Vic's obit/memorial:

tinyurl.com/2aj4mjac
Posted by: JQ

Link isn't working for me for some reason.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2024 03:14 AM (VwHCD)
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https://tinyurl.com/2aj4mjac

Try this?

Posted by: Ciampino - somebody needs to come out as infinitesimal at December 06, 2024 03:17 AM (i0xsb)

345 Try this one

https://tinyurl.com/n5bwuzbj

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 06, 2024 03:18 AM (7hflu)

346 Damn, Vic wasn't that old. The way people talked about him I figured we would need to carbon test him to find his true age.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 06, 2024 03:24 AM (VwHCD)

347 California religious school shooter's sickening motive revealed

https://mol.im/a/14163789

So mental, felon, known to cops but he managed to get a gun and ammo in a State as bad as NY, NJ and IL. Wow. And the answer is always take guns away from sane, law-abiding citizens. Somehow we don't do this with anything else like, say, vehicles, alcohol, and dare I say it, human hands!

Posted by: Ciampino - take them away doesn't work at December 06, 2024 03:35 AM (i0xsb)

348 Know the feeling. Was away from here for awhile. When I came back, I noticed there wasn't a Saturday Chess Thread.
Posted by: RickZ

The sainted Oregon Muse passed away. He is greatly missed.

Posted by: Tuna at December 06, 2024 03:37 AM (oaGWv)

349 The sainted Oregon Muse passed away. He is greatly missed.
Posted by: Tuna at December 06, 2024 03:37 AM (oaGWv)

I didn't give a shit about the fashion. Loved the chess puzzles. Actually made my brain work on a Saturday.

Posted by: RickZ at December 06, 2024 03:39 AM (gKDq2)

350 I didn't give a shit about the fashion.

The gals he picked were memorable. He had a thing for Korean gals. He had taste.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 06, 2024 03:42 AM (YoT4f)

351 I liked seeing (most of) the dresses, even though I seldom wear them.

You know, it was very nice of Oregon Muse to consider us 'ettes!

Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 03:43 AM (YoCnN)

352 Yeah, I'm sure the "dresses" were not just for us gals... ahem...

Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 03:44 AM (YoCnN)

353 The gals he picked were memorable. He had a thing for Korean gals. He had taste.
Posted by: Puddleglum

That thread was always great fun. Miss it and OM.

Posted by: Tuna at December 06, 2024 03:44 AM (oaGWv)

354 Here you have it, frankly, candidly spoken out aloud:
“To have a transgender child has made me so much more interesting”

https://tinyurl.com/yz6znjat

Posted by: Ciampino - take the parent's balls at December 06, 2024 03:46 AM (i0xsb)

355 I'm willing to bet the Brandenburgers are Mennonite. Mennonites look like Amish, are related to Amish, but use modern conveniences mostly. Or they could be Beach Amish. Who actually are Amish but use modern conveniences mostly.

Posted by: Someone Else at December 06, 2024 03:49 AM (IrqeV)

356 Ugh, Ciampino. Sickening. Evil.

Yeah, little kids don't really care about sex, they just want to goof off and play and explore and BE KIDS.

If little Timmy wants to play with Susie's dolly, so what? And if little Susie wants to play with Timmy's tonka truck, so what?

It's. Just. Play.

Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 03:51 AM (YoCnN)

357 Got to be gone in 1 hour, going to People's Republic of New Jersey

Posted by: Skip at December 06, 2024 03:52 AM (fwDg9)

358 Safe travels, Skip! Happy Friday!

Posted by: JQ at December 06, 2024 03:53 AM (YoCnN)

359 Tech Thread is up.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 06, 2024 04:01 AM (QPCEj)

360 "Made me so much more interesting"---BULLSHIT--what it uncovered was a child abuser, masquerading a parent; you scut.

Programmers and promoters are guilty of child abuse.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at December 06, 2024 04:08 AM (hKoQL)

361 Loved the post. So when the poster mentioned that the first trans-Atlantic PanAm flight was mid-1939, and that just 39 years later we had Apollo 8, I didn't think too much about it.
....I'd heard no math was needed in this blog, but finally realized 1939 plus 39 would be 1978. Pretty sure Apollo-8 was 1968, and then of course the moon landing was July of 1969.
....So no doubt a typo. On the other hand...leftist "experts" now claim "maff beez raaacis'," so maybe 1978 is close enough.

Posted by: sf44 at December 06, 2024 12:20 PM (X9nCc)

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