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Gun Thread: El Firsto of Decembero (The First December) Edition!
FUNdamentals
Last week we reviewed grip, so this week why don't we discuss a proper shooting stance. There are three classic stances; the Weaver, the Isosceles and the Fighting, or at least that's what it says in this article helpfully titled The Three Shooting Stances. I am sure there are more, probably lots more, like the Rainy Tuesday Under a Full Moon stance, and the Look at my Bad-Ass Self With a Drop Holster Tactitard stance, and so forth, but I like keeping things simple. The key is to use whatever position is necessary to achieve a solid foundation without torqueing yourself into an unnatural position if at all possible in order to mitigate recoil and easily re-acquire the target for follow-up shots. If you can do that best by standing on your head and shooting weak handed, then by all means shoot standing on your head weak handed. When I am evaluating a shooter's stance, I am primarily looking at weight distribution. Look at the photos in the article linked above and imagine a combination of the Weaver and a little of the Fighting stances. That looks about like what I recommend. Whatever you do, please do not employ the Waiting For a Bus While Casually Checking Email on Your Phone stance that is evidently gaining popularity now. Instead, think aggressive with about 65-70% of your weight on the front foot leaning into the target. If you start square to the target with 75% of your weight on your heels, only bad things will happen as you begin shooting. Trust me. As you set up on a target, remember to focus on stance every bit as much as you are on grip, trigger and sight alignment, and periodically check that you're not doing something goofy and getting yourself all out of whack. You are focusing on fundamentals, aren't you?
Highway Patrol and Trigger Discipline
This week our Highway Patrol episode illustrates improper trigger discipline. This otherwise most excellent and popular series from the 1950's is summarized on Wikipedia and includes the following:
Two technical advisors (one a patrolman on active service and one retired) read scripts before scenes were shot and were present during filming "to speak up whenever a technical violation, however slight, occurred."Well that's nice. Now settle in and let's take a look at a random episode.
1911 Madness! It's 1911 Madness week here at the ol' Gun Thread! Assembly at the Factory by Gum Chewing Lady
Work it, Sister!
Our Pal The Steel Rule
This Is Not a Test!!
Great movie! I bet the cop is a real live wire at parties.
Cozy Cave Utilization Update
Our little girl Gertie is settling in quite nicely, and Fun Size Joe is being a very patient big brother. The proper order of things.
As we see here, Gertie has commandeered both cozy caves!
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Comments
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Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 01, 2024 07:00 PM (v23vE)
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rd - howdy Weasel!
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at December 01, 2024 07:00 PM (kOluj)
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Good evening everyone
Posted by: Skip at December 01, 2024 07:00 PM (fwDg9)
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Bang
Posted by: Eromero at December 01, 2024 07:01 PM (LHPAg)
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Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at December 01, 2024 07:01 PM (hOUT3)
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Yay! Good Sunday evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and a Cozy Cave-sized howdy to our host Weasel.
Now off tosee the wizard read the content...
Now off to
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 01, 2024 07:02 PM (v23vE)
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Boxing day? Heavyweights or Welterweights? Back to the content. Thanks, Weasel.
Posted by: scampydog at December 01, 2024 07:02 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 01, 2024 07:02 PM (0XVad)
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Hello, Weasel!
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 07:04 PM (AiJK3)
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Thank you for covering my doggy bits.
Posted by: Fun Size Joe at December 01, 2024 07:06 PM (IQ6Gq)
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When I am waiting for my bus, my phone is in my pocket. I occasionally take it out to see where the bus is. Otherwise I am constantly looking around, especially when going home.
My bus stop is right across from St. Patrick's in NYC and there are a LOT of people going to and fro.
Of course I cannot do anything but run if anything happens as I am unarmed. FKH and NYS(C).
My bus stop is right across from St. Patrick's in NYC and there are a LOT of people going to and fro.
Of course I cannot do anything but run if anything happens as I am unarmed. FKH and NYS(C).
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 01, 2024 07:07 PM (0XVad)
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Thank you for covering my doggy bits.
Posted by: Fun Size Joe at December 01, 2024 07:06 PM (IQ6Gq)
Better yet, without making me wear clothes!
Posted by: Fun Size Joe at December 01, 2024 07:06 PM (IQ6Gq)
Better yet, without making me wear clothes!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 07:07 PM (VNX3d)
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FYI, Boxing Day is still celebrated in the Bahamas!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at December 01, 2024 07:07 PM (hOUT3)
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Love the photos of Gertie and Fun Size Joe. Reminds me when we had our 3 toy poodles (same litter). Each one had 'their' spot when it was nap time.
Posted by: JTB at December 01, 2024 07:08 PM (yTvNw)
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I thought I saw Weasel on my way to church this morning, dude his size,same beard, driving a beamer. But then I realized the beamer and the watch were both too small.
Posted by: Eromero at December 01, 2024 07:08 PM (LHPAg)
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I have a good 1911 take down and reassemble video saved on my tablet
Posted by: Skip at December 01, 2024 07:08 PM (fwDg9)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 01, 2024 07:10 PM (tT6L1)
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Good evening Horde and thanks Weasel. Off to watch the steel rule video.
Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 07:11 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Happy Dec 1st Weasel and Horde....It's too darn cold to be Dec 1, and this week will be colder than today....
Range? Yes, we went today. I need to be brainwashed into going slower. When I focus and am deliberate (slower) I have success. When I get confident (go faster), yeah, not so much success. So, that is the goal now. Focus on fundys and go slower....
Range? Yes, we went today. I need to be brainwashed into going slower. When I focus and am deliberate (slower) I have success. When I get confident (go faster), yeah, not so much success. So, that is the goal now. Focus on fundys and go slower....
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at December 01, 2024 07:11 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Whatever happened to the "teacup" stance?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2024 07:12 PM (/lPRQ)
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As we see here, Gertie has commandeered both cozy caves!
There is only one solution for this.
Buy two more Cozy Caves, stat!
There is only one solution for this.
Buy two more Cozy Caves, stat!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 01, 2024 07:14 PM (a3Q+t)
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Whatever happened to the "teacup" stance?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2024 07:12 PM (/lPRQ)
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Accurate rapid fire is virtually impossible with the teacup.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2024 07:12 PM (/lPRQ)
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Accurate rapid fire is virtually impossible with the teacup.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 01, 2024 07:14 PM (tT6L1)
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Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at December 01, 2024 07:11 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Fundys! Love it!
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Fundys! Love it!
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2024 07:14 PM (fghTy)
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Yay! Gubs!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 01, 2024 07:14 PM (Wnv9h)
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So the grey box is Fun Size Joe after being fixed??
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 07:15 PM (hovnC)
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Whatever happened to the "teacup" stance?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2024 07:12 PM
I qualified Expert with a rattletrap issue 1911 in 1972 using that stance. In retrospect, I wonder why anyone thought that stance was a good idea.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2024 07:12 PM
I qualified Expert with a rattletrap issue 1911 in 1972 using that stance. In retrospect, I wonder why anyone thought that stance was a good idea.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 01, 2024 07:16 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 07:16 PM (VNX3d)
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AFAIK, Boxing Day has never been a legal holiday here. Stores in Canuckistan have had Boxing Day Sales long before Black Friday was ever a thing.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 07:17 PM (rsgN5)
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I’m here. And I have an Ackchewell Range Report.
But not until I’ve drooled through the 1911 stuff
Thank you, weasel-San!
But not until I’ve drooled through the 1911 stuff
Thank you, weasel-San!
Posted by: RI Red at December 01, 2024 07:17 PM (JjOQR)
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Good evening Horde and thanks Weasel. Off to watch the steel rule video.
Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 07:11 PM
Wait...now there is a Rule of Steel?!
Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 07:11 PM
Wait...now there is a Rule of Steel?!
Posted by: Conan at December 01, 2024 07:17 PM (Wnv9h)
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I haven't watched the 1911 fake video yet, but I'll again make the pitch that anyone who wants to sink serious $$ into collectible Colt 1911s needs to purchase Charles Clawson's reference books on the Colt 1911. Thirty years on, these books remain the gold standard for 1911 collectors. The cost to obtain these out-of-print tomes will put them out of reach for all but the most serious collectors, though. The best available alternative is Joe Poyer's book about the 1911, which draws heavily from the Clawson books. This book is in print and available from Amazon today for $35.95. What's missing from the Poyer book is the behind-the-scenes history from period correspondence from Colt and the Army about how things happened.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 07:18 PM (AiJK3)
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AFAIK, Boxing Day has never been a legal holiday here. Stores in Canuckistan have had Boxing Day Sales long before Black Friday was ever a thing.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 07:17 PM (rsgN5)
Isn't Boxing Day the annual holiday for cats, where they each get a new box to lounge in for the next several months or, if they're nice, a full year?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 07:17 PM (rsgN5)
Isn't Boxing Day the annual holiday for cats, where they each get a new box to lounge in for the next several months or, if they're nice, a full year?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 07:18 PM (VNX3d)
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Whatever happened to the "teacup" stance?
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I read, maybe here, that it was what cops used before bulletproof vests became standard, to cut down on your visible profile for a perp to shoot at. With a vest nowadays, it's easier to stand square.
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I read, maybe here, that it was what cops used before bulletproof vests became standard, to cut down on your visible profile for a perp to shoot at. With a vest nowadays, it's easier to stand square.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 07:18 PM (hovnC)
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Woo Hoo! Cuckoo for Beaucoup 1911 vids!
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at December 01, 2024 07:18 PM (Hdixl)
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Excellent curation of content this week, Weasel! Thank'ee kindly!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 01, 2024 07:18 PM (a3Q+t)
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No range report. I get the feeling I will not be doing anything until after the holidays. Meaning I am done for the year. :-)
I will most likely hit the indoor range and do major FUNdamental work. Mostly with the 1911. :-D
This because it get a little to cold up in the mountains where my outdoor range is.
Though I will try and do one thing gun related this week, and that is to contact my FFL about possibly taking possession of a new toy.
I will most likely hit the indoor range and do major FUNdamental work. Mostly with the 1911. :-D
This because it get a little to cold up in the mountains where my outdoor range is.
Though I will try and do one thing gun related this week, and that is to contact my FFL about possibly taking possession of a new toy.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 01, 2024 07:19 PM (0XVad)
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Is Fun Size Joe transitioning? I see he has a band-aid on his junk.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 07:20 PM (rsgN5)
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It's funny. I just checked the NWS web site, and they're forecasting a low of 13F tonight. It's already fallen to 12F, and will likely go lower.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 07:20 PM (VNX3d)
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27 Weasel's Thread is Here
Important fundamentals
Always covered here.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 07:16 PM
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Poetry on the gub thread? I love it when a theme carries over.
Important fundamentals
Always covered here.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 07:16 PM
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Poetry on the gub thread? I love it when a theme carries over.
Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 07:20 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Got a scolding from herself for the gun safe being unlocked and open and my habit of leaving the outside house doors unlocked.
Gun maintenance is months behind, ammunition is low, under 400 rounds.
Eating down frozen and long term food supplies.
The election has changed my sense of panic.
Got a scolding from herself for the gun safe being unlocked and open and my habit of leaving the outside house doors unlocked.
Gun maintenance is months behind, ammunition is low, under 400 rounds.
Eating down frozen and long term food supplies.
The election has changed my sense of panic.
Posted by: Auspex at December 01, 2024 07:21 PM (j4U/Z)
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Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 07:16 PM
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Poetry on the gub thread? I love it when a theme carries over.
Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 07:20 PM (IQ6Gq)
We'll see if Weasel likes it. That's the real test.
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Poetry on the gub thread? I love it when a theme carries over.
Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 07:20 PM (IQ6Gq)
We'll see if Weasel likes it. That's the real test.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 07:22 PM (VNX3d)
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AFAIK, Boxing Day has never been a legal holiday here. Stores in Canuckistan have had Boxing Day Sales long before Black Friday was ever a thing.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 07:17 PM (rsgN5)
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Though we speak a dialect of English (with altered spellings), The underlying US culture is far more German than English. The English regard hunting as something only for the elite on their fancy estates. The notion of a commoner taking a class and being granted a license to take game is simply inconceivable to them.
Germany, by contrast, regards hunting as we do - a key part of land management. German firearms ownership is less than half that of the US, but almost five times that of the UK.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 07:17 PM (rsgN5)
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Though we speak a dialect of English (with altered spellings), The underlying US culture is far more German than English. The English regard hunting as something only for the elite on their fancy estates. The notion of a commoner taking a class and being granted a license to take game is simply inconceivable to them.
Germany, by contrast, regards hunting as we do - a key part of land management. German firearms ownership is less than half that of the US, but almost five times that of the UK.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 07:22 PM (ZOv7s)
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The election has changed my sense of panic.
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Me too but I'm keeping an eye on late January and later.
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Me too but I'm keeping an eye on late January and later.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 07:23 PM (hovnC)
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I prefer to believe the 1911 assembly lady is chewing Beech Nut...
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at December 01, 2024 07:24 PM (kOluj)
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I read, maybe here, that it was what cops used before bulletproof vests became standard, to cut down on your visible profile for a perp to shoot at. With a vest nowadays, it's easier to stand square.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 07:18 PM (hovnC)
Would that not then make sense for civilians like us to learn, given that, if we find ourselves in a shootout with a skel, we won't likely be wearing body armor?
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 07:18 PM (hovnC)
Would that not then make sense for civilians like us to learn, given that, if we find ourselves in a shootout with a skel, we won't likely be wearing body armor?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 07:24 PM (rsgN5)
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Gun maintenance is months behind, ammunition is low, under 400 rounds.
Eating down frozen and long term food supplies.
The election has changed my sense of panic.
Posted by: Auspex at December 01, 2024 07:21 PM (j4U/Z)
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Ammo prices are in freefall. I expect gun prices to follow. I've gridded out my next purchases and am currently doing market research to see how the prices are moving.
I'm pretty good on ammo, but huge chunks of my inventory are to power things like Type 14 Nambu or Astra 400 in 9mm Largo. I mean, before the canoe accident.
Eating down frozen and long term food supplies.
The election has changed my sense of panic.
Posted by: Auspex at December 01, 2024 07:21 PM (j4U/Z)
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Ammo prices are in freefall. I expect gun prices to follow. I've gridded out my next purchases and am currently doing market research to see how the prices are moving.
I'm pretty good on ammo, but huge chunks of my inventory are to power things like Type 14 Nambu or Astra 400 in 9mm Largo. I mean, before the canoe accident.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 07:25 PM (ZOv7s)
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43 The election has changed my sense of panic.
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Me too but I'm keeping an eye on late January and later.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 07:23 PM (hovnC)
Give it until at least March before you relax, a lot of mostly peaceful stuff can still happen unexpectedly!
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Me too but I'm keeping an eye on late January and later.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 07:23 PM (hovnC)
Give it until at least March before you relax, a lot of mostly peaceful stuff can still happen unexpectedly!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at December 01, 2024 07:25 PM (hOUT3)
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 01, 2024 07:26 PM (QfvaV)
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And now for a range report: Accuracy of the Howa 1500 isn't good enough to compete with. Hunting accuracy is fine, about 1MOA. Match accuracy just isn't there. Which isn't really a surprise.
New barrel for the Savage won't arrive for a couple of months, at best.
I've decided I have to reload and "chase the lands" so to speak. Also, when I build my new rifle next year, I'll keep a spare barrel on hand. No way I'm going through this again.
I'm definitely sticking with either the Savage 10 or 110 action, though, due to ease of barrel change.
New barrel for the Savage won't arrive for a couple of months, at best.
I've decided I have to reload and "chase the lands" so to speak. Also, when I build my new rifle next year, I'll keep a spare barrel on hand. No way I'm going through this again.
I'm definitely sticking with either the Savage 10 or 110 action, though, due to ease of barrel change.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 01, 2024 07:27 PM (tT6L1)
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Who would guessed:
President Biden set to issue a pardon of his son Hunter Biden
https://tinyurl.com/Guiltyhunter
President Biden set to issue a pardon of his son Hunter Biden
https://tinyurl.com/Guiltyhunter
Posted by: banana Dream at December 01, 2024 07:27 PM (Y6IkP)
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Would that not then make sense for civilians like us to learn, given that, if we find ourselves in a shootout with a skel, we won't likely be wearing body armor?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 07:24 PM (rsgN5)
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A common stance was one hand, turned sideways to the target, like a fencing stance. This made an even smaller target and offered your arm, ribs and lung between the shooter and your heart.
A fair number of handguns are easier to shoot with one hand than two.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 07:24 PM (rsgN5)
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A common stance was one hand, turned sideways to the target, like a fencing stance. This made an even smaller target and offered your arm, ribs and lung between the shooter and your heart.
A fair number of handguns are easier to shoot with one hand than two.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 07:28 PM (ZOv7s)
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Range report - getting less bad and a little more consistent. Adding a little speed and working on getting the grip set in muscle memory. The trigger hand still wants to clench on the grip periodically if I'm not fully focused on keeping it still. It takes so little to throw a bullet two inches off. Snapcaps on the agenda before the next visit. Still...at the point where we grumble about clusters we would have been pleased to see not so long ago. Fundamentals, kids. Fwiw, tons of people at the range today.
Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 07:28 PM (IQ6Gq)
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What, no love for Kwanzaa?
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 01, 2024 07:26 PM (QfvaV)
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What's the day when you overthrow the government and you eat your enemies? Or is that more of a Liberia/Congo thing?
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 01, 2024 07:26 PM (QfvaV)
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What's the day when you overthrow the government and you eat your enemies? Or is that more of a Liberia/Congo thing?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 07:29 PM (ZOv7s)
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I'm pretty good on ammo, but huge chunks of my inventory are to power things like Type 14 Nambu or Astra 400 in 9mm Largo. I mean, before the canoe accident.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 07:25 PM (ZOv7s)
How do you regard the Eibar Ruby class of pistols? IIRC, the one I have is made by Garate, Anitua y Cia.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 07:25 PM (ZOv7s)
How do you regard the Eibar Ruby class of pistols? IIRC, the one I have is made by Garate, Anitua y Cia.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 07:30 PM (rsgN5)
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Did some deep cleaning of my long guns yesterday. The bore snakes were smoking.
PS: Pam Bondi is no good for the 2A Horrible pick.
PS: Pam Bondi is no good for the 2A Horrible pick.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 01, 2024 07:30 PM (/U5Yz)
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President Biden set to issue a pardon of his son Hunter Biden
Posted by: banana Dream at December 01, 2024 07:27 PM (Y6IkP)
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Thereby setting a precedent for Trump to the same. Nice!
Posted by: banana Dream at December 01, 2024 07:27 PM (Y6IkP)
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Thereby setting a precedent for Trump to the same. Nice!
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 07:30 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 07:31 PM (VNX3d)
Posted by: Oddbob at December 01, 2024 07:33 PM (/y8xj)
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Good to know my cleaning method for semi auto pistols is correct. I do like that cleaning mat in the second video with the detailed plan of the disassembly. Nice back up to my books on assembly/disassembly. And it's easy to clean solvent and lube off of them.
Posted by: JTB at December 01, 2024 07:33 PM (yTvNw)
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That steel rule film is terrific. I was told years ago that apprentice machinists at Starrett in Athol, MA, as part of their training, had to machine a micrometer.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 01, 2024 07:33 PM (WXNFJ)
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Weasel dog grey modesty box?
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 01, 2024 07:33 PM (xWaIL)
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What, no love for Kwanzaa?
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 01, 2024 07:26 PM (QfvaV)
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What's the day when you overthrow the government and you eat your enemies? Or is that more of a Liberia/Congo thing?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 07:29 PM (ZOv7s)
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I vote for renaming Kwanzaa "Idi Amin Day."
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 01, 2024 07:26 PM (QfvaV)
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What's the day when you overthrow the government and you eat your enemies? Or is that more of a Liberia/Congo thing?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 07:29 PM (ZOv7s)
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I vote for renaming Kwanzaa "Idi Amin Day."
Posted by: ShainS -- We shot them under DOD Directive 5240.01 at December 01, 2024 07:33 PM (/6TY1)
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I've decided I have to reload and "chase the lands" so to speak. Also, when I build my new rifle next year, I'll keep a spare barrel on hand. No way I'm going through this again.
I'm definitely sticking with either the Savage 10 or 110 action, though, due to ease of barrel change.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 01, 2024 07:27 PM (tT6L1)
This may be a really dumb question, but could you run a hone through the bore, and hone it out, say .001" oversize? And then reload with .001" oversize bullets?
I seem to remember hearing of muzzle-loading rifles being rebored.
I'm definitely sticking with either the Savage 10 or 110 action, though, due to ease of barrel change.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 01, 2024 07:27 PM (tT6L1)
This may be a really dumb question, but could you run a hone through the bore, and hone it out, say .001" oversize? And then reload with .001" oversize bullets?
I seem to remember hearing of muzzle-loading rifles being rebored.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 07:33 PM (rsgN5)
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How do you regard the Eibar Ruby class of pistols? IIRC, the one I have is made by Garate, Anitua y Cia.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 07:30 PM (rsgN5)
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Those have been on my list for so long and I always get sidetracked or denied. I'm planning on make a move as soon as January, price and supply permitting.
I will say that I have, uh, experience of two vintage Astras, a 300 from the late 20s and a 400 from 1939. The 300 is a real sweetheart, saw rough service during the war, but really shines one-handed.
The 400 is a beast. 9mm Largo is weaker than Parabellum, but it's pure blowback, no lock. Quite the thumper. Reassembly is...demanding, what with that gargantuan recoil spring.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 07:30 PM (rsgN5)
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Those have been on my list for so long and I always get sidetracked or denied. I'm planning on make a move as soon as January, price and supply permitting.
I will say that I have, uh, experience of two vintage Astras, a 300 from the late 20s and a 400 from 1939. The 300 is a real sweetheart, saw rough service during the war, but really shines one-handed.
The 400 is a beast. 9mm Largo is weaker than Parabellum, but it's pure blowback, no lock. Quite the thumper. Reassembly is...demanding, what with that gargantuan recoil spring.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 07:34 PM (ZOv7s)
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I spent most of the week organic tree farming. sra blaster and I drove a well and brought up some free range, organic, gluten free water from the ground.
Wanted to scope out a shooty place on blaster acres but we spent way too much time on the well. But then we went to SC for Thanksgiving and so I do have real live gun content!
Wanted to scope out a shooty place on blaster acres but we spent way too much time on the well. But then we went to SC for Thanksgiving and so I do have real live gun content!
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 01, 2024 07:34 PM (QfvaV)
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The Weaver stance works best for me, but with a slightly bent right arm. Maybe with my body shape, the right-left push-pull worked out better. My bent right arm seems to bring more of my muscles into play.
Posted by: Fritzy at December 01, 2024 07:36 PM (LM1wn)
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A fair number of handguns are easier to shoot with one hand than two.
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And it was the police revolver era.
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Would that not then make sense for civilians like us to learn, given that, if we find ourselves in a shootout with a skel, we won't likely be wearing body armor?
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Except my profile is fatter than my head-on!
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And it was the police revolver era.
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Would that not then make sense for civilians like us to learn, given that, if we find ourselves in a shootout with a skel, we won't likely be wearing body armor?
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Except my profile is fatter than my head-on!
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 07:37 PM (hovnC)
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Those have been on my list for so long and I always get sidetracked or denied. I'm planning on make a move as soon as January, price and supply permitting.
I will say that I have, uh, experience of two vintage Astras, a 300 from the late 20s and a 400 from 1939. The 300 is a real sweetheart, saw rough service during the war, but really shines one-handed.
The 400 is a beast. 9mm Largo is weaker than Parabellum, but it's pure blowback, no lock. Quite the thumper. Reassembly is...demanding, what with that gargantuan recoil spring.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 07:34 PM (ZOv7s)
If you want a Winter break this year, come look me up in Arizona. Shooting the Ruby would be on the menu. It lurves round-nose ammo, FTF with hollow point.
I will say that I have, uh, experience of two vintage Astras, a 300 from the late 20s and a 400 from 1939. The 300 is a real sweetheart, saw rough service during the war, but really shines one-handed.
The 400 is a beast. 9mm Largo is weaker than Parabellum, but it's pure blowback, no lock. Quite the thumper. Reassembly is...demanding, what with that gargantuan recoil spring.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 07:34 PM (ZOv7s)
If you want a Winter break this year, come look me up in Arizona. Shooting the Ruby would be on the menu. It lurves round-nose ammo, FTF with hollow point.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 07:37 PM (rsgN5)
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I vote for renaming Kwanzaa "Idi Amin Day."
Posted by: ShainS -- We shot them under DOD Directive 5240.01 at December 01, 2024 07:33 PM (/6TY1)
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No, it's got multiple days, so you can do Idi Amin, Samuel K. Doe, Emperor Bokassa I, the Feat of Zimbabwe Agricultural Planning, Rwandan Friendship, Nigerian religious tolerance and of course South African Governance.
Posted by: ShainS -- We shot them under DOD Directive 5240.01 at December 01, 2024 07:33 PM (/6TY1)
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No, it's got multiple days, so you can do Idi Amin, Samuel K. Doe, Emperor Bokassa I, the Feat of Zimbabwe Agricultural Planning, Rwandan Friendship, Nigerian religious tolerance and of course South African Governance.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 07:37 PM (ZOv7s)
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A common stance was one hand, turned sideways to the target, like a fencing stance. This made an even smaller target and offered your arm, ribs and lung between the shooter and your heart.
A fair number of handguns are easier to shoot with one hand than two.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 07:28 PM (ZOv7s)
I've seen several pictures from WWII showing GIs (and some WAVES) doing handgun training using this stance.
A fair number of handguns are easier to shoot with one hand than two.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 07:28 PM (ZOv7s)
I've seen several pictures from WWII showing GIs (and some WAVES) doing handgun training using this stance.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 07:37 PM (AiJK3)
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Except my profile is fatter than my head-on!
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 07:37 PM (hovnC)
You, too?
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 07:37 PM (hovnC)
You, too?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 07:38 PM (rsgN5)
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Howdy!
Posted by: Puddleglum, (makes gun noises) at December 01, 2024 07:38 PM (sH1oA)
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Good to know my cleaning method for semi auto pistols is correct. I do like that cleaning mat in the second video with the detailed plan of the disassembly. Nice back up to my books on assembly/disassembly. And it's easy to clean solvent and lube off of them.
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Good. I saw one for the Hi-Power that I was thinking of buying.
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Good. I saw one for the Hi-Power that I was thinking of buying.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 07:39 PM (hovnC)
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If you want a Winter break this year, come look me up in Arizona. Shooting the Ruby would be on the menu. It lurves round-nose ammo, FTF with hollow point.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 07:37 PM (rsgN5)
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I appreciate the invite. I'm pretty much stuck in place with the grandkids until further notice. Swing through Michigan on your return journey and I can show you a few things you might like.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 07:37 PM (rsgN5)
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I appreciate the invite. I'm pretty much stuck in place with the grandkids until further notice. Swing through Michigan on your return journey and I can show you a few things you might like.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 07:39 PM (ZOv7s)
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Shhh! Be vewy vewy quiet. I'm hunting ammo. Hehehehe!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 07:39 PM (VNX3d)
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LIBs: Liars, Looters and the Lawyers who enable them.
IceKingJOE -- lies to us again: To Pardon DamienThorne/His Son, because he SIMPLY ISN'T GREGORY PECK ENOUGH.
Watch him come out and Dare US to Do Something About It
-- the rule of law, where anyone in the name of gov't may do anything it pleases while you act only with its permission.
-- as if Consequence be Inconsequential, it isn't.
Remember who did this:OBAMA put HIM in charge of Ukraine, just like IceKingJOE put ctHARRIS in charge of the boarder. LosAngelesTimes/WashingtonExaminer
https://tinyurl.com/IceKingJOE-HeDidTHIS-Ukraine
https://tinyurl.com/IceKingJOE-BlamesObama
Want to stop them? Send in the MicroManagers NOW!
https://www.tinyurl.com/ctHARRIS-FamousLastWords
Her famous last words: Time Index: 00:40s
IceKingJOE -- lies to us again: To Pardon DamienThorne/His Son, because he SIMPLY ISN'T GREGORY PECK ENOUGH.
Watch him come out and Dare US to Do Something About It
-- the rule of law, where anyone in the name of gov't may do anything it pleases while you act only with its permission.
-- as if Consequence be Inconsequential, it isn't.
Remember who did this:OBAMA put HIM in charge of Ukraine, just like IceKingJOE put ctHARRIS in charge of the boarder. LosAngelesTimes/WashingtonExaminer
https://tinyurl.com/IceKingJOE-HeDidTHIS-Ukraine
https://tinyurl.com/IceKingJOE-BlamesObama
Want to stop them? Send in the MicroManagers NOW!
https://www.tinyurl.com/ctHARRIS-FamousLastWords
Her famous last words: Time Index: 00:40s
Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at December 01, 2024 07:40 PM (imN6w)
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This may be a really dumb question, but could you run a hone through the bore, and hone it out, say .001" oversize? And then reload with .001" oversize bullets?
I seem to remember hearing of muzzle-loading rifles being rebored.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 07:33 PM (rsgN5)
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Weasel would be better able to answer that than I. I honestly don't know. I've not seen it offered as an option though I suppose it is possible. But, finding bullets and tooling to load for the new chamber probably makes it more cost effective to order a new barrel.
I seem to remember hearing of muzzle-loading rifles being rebored.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 07:33 PM (rsgN5)
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Weasel would be better able to answer that than I. I honestly don't know. I've not seen it offered as an option though I suppose it is possible. But, finding bullets and tooling to load for the new chamber probably makes it more cost effective to order a new barrel.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 01, 2024 07:40 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: zombie idi amin, vc with bar at December 01, 2024 07:40 PM (hovnC)
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It looks like he already signed the pardon
Posted by: banana Dream at December 01, 2024 07:40 PM (Y6IkP)
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Gub! Thanks for the great content, Weasel. The Cozy Cave update is always a welcome bonus.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 01, 2024 07:41 PM (mH6SG)
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It looks like he the AutoPen already signed the pardon
Posted by: banana Dream at December 01, 2024 07:40 PM (Y6IkP)
FIFY
Posted by: banana Dream at December 01, 2024 07:40 PM (Y6IkP)
FIFY
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 07:41 PM (VNX3d)
Posted by: banana Dream at December 01, 2024 07:42 PM (Y6IkP)
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Weasel dog grey modesty box?
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle
Could have made him more 'heroic" and used a larger grey modesty box... Or photoshopped a steel codpiece like armored knights used when such was the fashion.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle
Could have made him more 'heroic" and used a larger grey modesty box... Or photoshopped a steel codpiece like armored knights used when such was the fashion.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2024 07:42 PM (/lPRQ)
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I've seen several pictures from WWII showing GIs (and some WAVES) doing handgun training using this stance.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 07:37 PM (AiJK3)
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Cavalry were always expected to use only one hand, as were officers (sword was in the other, chuckle).
A one-handed grip with bent elbow changes your grip, lowering it to reduce the risk of slide/hammer bite as well.
That Astra 300 is one of the slickest shooters I have with one hand. Easy recovery, and while the sights are small, the rounded frame makes them actually prominent and it points naturally. It's really quick on the clock.
And then it fell overboard. So sad.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 07:37 PM (AiJK3)
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Cavalry were always expected to use only one hand, as were officers (sword was in the other, chuckle).
A one-handed grip with bent elbow changes your grip, lowering it to reduce the risk of slide/hammer bite as well.
That Astra 300 is one of the slickest shooters I have with one hand. Easy recovery, and while the sights are small, the rounded frame makes them actually prominent and it points naturally. It's really quick on the clock.
And then it fell overboard. So sad.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 07:42 PM (ZOv7s)
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All of us downs at the Brattleboro Womins Reproductertive center wants to wish Presdent Obama a Happy Kwanzaa.
We loves you and miss you...
We loves you and miss you...
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro,Vt at December 01, 2024 07:43 PM (ovJzn)
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Is it a custom order?
Posted by: Oddbob at December 01, 2024 07:33 PM (/y8xj)
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Yep. Most people aren't crazy enough to try what I'm trying to do with a 30.06.
I ordered a 26" stainless barrel, threaded for a muzzle brake, bead blasted exterior, MTU contour. (based on a recommendation from one of the guys I shoot with.)
Posted by: Oddbob at December 01, 2024 07:33 PM (/y8xj)
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Yep. Most people aren't crazy enough to try what I'm trying to do with a 30.06.
I ordered a 26" stainless barrel, threaded for a muzzle brake, bead blasted exterior, MTU contour. (based on a recommendation from one of the guys I shoot with.)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 01, 2024 07:43 PM (tT6L1)
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If you want a Winter break this year, come look me up in Arizona. Shooting the Ruby would be on the menu. It lurves round-nose ammo, FTF with hollow point.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 07:37 PM (rsgN5)
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I appreciate the invite. I'm pretty much stuck in place with the grandkids until further notice. Swing through Michigan on your return journey and I can show you a few things you might like.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 07:39 PM (ZOv7s)
Michigan is a huge dogleg to the East for me. Incidentally, anyone from the Horde would welcome to visit me in AZ. I have a spare bedroom, very unfancy, rustic, even, and as of now it is not booked for any period. I expect to be there before Christmas.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 07:37 PM (rsgN5)
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I appreciate the invite. I'm pretty much stuck in place with the grandkids until further notice. Swing through Michigan on your return journey and I can show you a few things you might like.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 07:39 PM (ZOv7s)
Michigan is a huge dogleg to the East for me. Incidentally, anyone from the Horde would welcome to visit me in AZ. I have a spare bedroom, very unfancy, rustic, even, and as of now it is not booked for any period. I expect to be there before Christmas.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 07:43 PM (rsgN5)
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Unfortunately our pal Broderick Crawford runs around with his finger on the trigger in just about every episode I have watched. Broderick, Broderick, Broderick... what are you doing, bro?
Everybody in that episode had their booger hook on the bang switch! Hope those real-life revolvers were DA with a heavy initial trigger pull -- otherwise, many toes were likely forfeit.
Everybody in that episode had their booger hook on the bang switch! Hope those real-life revolvers were DA with a heavy initial trigger pull -- otherwise, many toes were likely forfeit.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 01, 2024 07:44 PM (v23vE)
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Michigan is a huge dogleg to the East for me. Incidentally, anyone from the Horde would welcome to visit me in AZ. I have a spare bedroom, very unfancy, rustic, even, and as of now it is not booked for any period. I expect to be there before Christmas.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 07:43 PM (rsgN5)
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AOP, what is your AO in AZ?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 07:43 PM (rsgN5)
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AOP, what is your AO in AZ?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 01, 2024 07:45 PM (tT6L1)
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Hmmm
My Tisas M1911 seems easier to disassemble/assemble than my government issued M1911.
Must be getting old.
My Tisas M1911 seems easier to disassemble/assemble than my government issued M1911.
Must be getting old.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2024 07:45 PM (W/lyH)
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It's a full clemency for every action ever taken by hunter from 2014 to 2025.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 01, 2024 07:48 PM (Y6IkP)
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Yep. Most people aren't crazy enough to try what I'm trying to do with a 30.06.
OK. The reason I ask is that I ordered mine from Northland Shooters Supply and they had a bunch of different configurations in stock.
OK. The reason I ask is that I ordered mine from Northland Shooters Supply and they had a bunch of different configurations in stock.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 01, 2024 07:48 PM (/y8xj)
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AOP, what is your AO in AZ?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 01, 2024 07:45 PM (tT6L1)
Apache Junction. Have been kicking around the idea of maybe having an AZ MoMee on Inauguration Day. Gather a crowd in some hipster bar, and make ourselves obnoxious, in a friendly sort of way, Do the Trump dance!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 01, 2024 07:45 PM (tT6L1)
Apache Junction. Have been kicking around the idea of maybe having an AZ MoMee on Inauguration Day. Gather a crowd in some hipster bar, and make ourselves obnoxious, in a friendly sort of way, Do the Trump dance!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 07:48 PM (rsgN5)
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Sorry 2024
Posted by: banana Dream at December 01, 2024 07:48 PM (Y6IkP)
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Iranian-supplied weapons seized by the IDF.
https://tinyurl.com/y6kpa27w
photo
What are the weapons with the large barrel covers of some type with the bipods between the bolt-action bipod rifles and the handguns arranged 69-style in the photo mid-rear??
And I don't have any mortars or RPGs in my collection.
https://tinyurl.com/y6kpa27w
photo
What are the weapons with the large barrel covers of some type with the bipods between the bolt-action bipod rifles and the handguns arranged 69-style in the photo mid-rear??
And I don't have any mortars or RPGs in my collection.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 07:48 PM (hovnC)
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91 It's a full clemency for every action ever taken by hunter from 2014 to 2025.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 01, 2024 07:48 PM (Y6IkP)
I would expect nothing less!
Posted by: banana Dream at December 01, 2024 07:48 PM (Y6IkP)
I would expect nothing less!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at December 01, 2024 07:48 PM (hOUT3)
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Weasel dog grey modesty box?
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle
Could have made him more 'heroic" and used a larger grey modesty box... Or photoshopped a steel codpiece like armored knights used when such was the fashion.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2024 07:42 PM (/lPRQ)
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Heroic WD!!!
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle
Could have made him more 'heroic" and used a larger grey modesty box... Or photoshopped a steel codpiece like armored knights used when such was the fashion.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2024 07:42 PM (/lPRQ)
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Heroic WD!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2024 07:49 PM (W/lyH)
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77 This may be a really dumb question, but could you run a hone through the bore, and hone it out, say .001" oversize? And then reload with .001" oversize bullets?
I seem to remember hearing of muzzle-loading rifles being rebored.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 07:33 PM (rsgN5)
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Weasel would be better able to answer that than I. I honestly don't know. I've not seen it offered as an option though I suppose it is possible. But, finding bullets and tooling to load for the new chamber probably makes it more cost effective to order a new barrel.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 01, 2024 07:40 PM (tT6L1)
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The usual culprit in barrels wearing out isn't with rifling, but rather with chamber erosion. Some guys will cut an inch off the chamber end and have a new chamber cut, but you don't get the same barrel life you did originally. If you're really serious about precision, it's time for a new barrel. Look at it like getting new tires for your car.
I seem to remember hearing of muzzle-loading rifles being rebored.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 07:33 PM (rsgN5)
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Weasel would be better able to answer that than I. I honestly don't know. I've not seen it offered as an option though I suppose it is possible. But, finding bullets and tooling to load for the new chamber probably makes it more cost effective to order a new barrel.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 01, 2024 07:40 PM (tT6L1)
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The usual culprit in barrels wearing out isn't with rifling, but rather with chamber erosion. Some guys will cut an inch off the chamber end and have a new chamber cut, but you don't get the same barrel life you did originally. If you're really serious about precision, it's time for a new barrel. Look at it like getting new tires for your car.
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2024 07:49 PM (fghTy)
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Is Joe going to pardon himself too?
Posted by: fd at December 01, 2024 07:50 PM (vFG9F)
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Well, Paste-Eatin' Joe ain't wrong that folks went after his son because he was a Biden.
Of course, Joe-Tato leaves out that Hunter was his bag-man for graft exceeding $15M paid by foreigners to the Biden family.
There is no justice.
Of course, Joe-Tato leaves out that Hunter was his bag-man for graft exceeding $15M paid by foreigners to the Biden family.
There is no justice.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 01, 2024 07:50 PM (aaq4H)
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100!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 01, 2024 07:50 PM (v23vE)
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101 100!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 01, 2024 07:50 PM (v23vE)
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Fundamentals, son. Fundamentals.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 01, 2024 07:50 PM (v23vE)
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Fundamentals, son. Fundamentals.
Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 07:51 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Michigan is a huge dogleg to the East for me. Incidentally, anyone from the Horde would welcome to visit me in AZ. I have a spare bedroom, very unfancy, rustic, even, and as of now it is not booked for any period. I expect to be there before Christmas.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 07:43 PM (rsgN5)
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I'm aware, but if you're flying, there are sometimes discounts when you bounce between hubs.
I recall having the cheapest flight for a TDY take me from Michigan to Minneapolis, then Charlotte before arriving in Virginia. It was a recurring assignment, and when I got cut loose a day early, I called to see if flights could be changed and they were like "Well, there is a direct flight to Richmond." Oh. Good to know.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 07:43 PM (rsgN5)
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I'm aware, but if you're flying, there are sometimes discounts when you bounce between hubs.
I recall having the cheapest flight for a TDY take me from Michigan to Minneapolis, then Charlotte before arriving in Virginia. It was a recurring assignment, and when I got cut loose a day early, I called to see if flights could be changed and they were like "Well, there is a direct flight to Richmond." Oh. Good to know.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 07:51 PM (ZOv7s)
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m!
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 07:52 PM (hovnC)
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Fundamentals, son. Fundamentals.
Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 07:51 PM (IQ6Gq)
Wobbly shit. Gets me every time.
Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 07:51 PM (IQ6Gq)
Wobbly shit. Gets me every time.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 01, 2024 07:52 PM (v23vE)
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Good. I saw one for the Hi-Power that I was thinking of buying.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 07:39 PM (hovnC)
Although the basic assembly and disassembly of the Hi-Power remained the same for its entire production run, keep in mind that redesigns and parts changes mean that pre-war and WWII era Hi-Powers will not interchanges w/ post-war Hi-Powers after 1950. Canadian-made Hi-Power parts will not always interchange with FN parts due to the fact that the Canadian pistols were made using English units of measure. The FN pistols used the metric system for manufacturing.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 07:39 PM (hovnC)
Although the basic assembly and disassembly of the Hi-Power remained the same for its entire production run, keep in mind that redesigns and parts changes mean that pre-war and WWII era Hi-Powers will not interchanges w/ post-war Hi-Powers after 1950. Canadian-made Hi-Power parts will not always interchange with FN parts due to the fact that the Canadian pistols were made using English units of measure. The FN pistols used the metric system for manufacturing.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 07:52 PM (AiJK3)
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Is Joe going to pardon himself too?
Posted by: fd at December 01, 2024 07:50 PM (vFG9F)
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We can only hope. He's building a firewall for the entire Trump family.
Posted by: fd at December 01, 2024 07:50 PM (vFG9F)
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We can only hope. He's building a firewall for the entire Trump family.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 07:52 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 01, 2024 07:53 PM (0XVad)
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Anybody ever got a gun and never shot it?
I'll go first...
32 H&R Undercoverette. Really wanted Ruger SP101 327 w/ 4 inch barrel, adjustable sights... Pricey... Then saw the Unercovette and figured, cheap, not 37 but close enough, so got it.
Before I could get it to the range I saw a Taurus 327. Oooh, closer so got it. Figured it would be better for working up 32 H&R loads for the Undercoverette and kind of forgot about her. That said, I'd rather carry the Undercoverette s the 327 is a heavy chunk of steel (relatively speaking).
I'll go first...
32 H&R Undercoverette. Really wanted Ruger SP101 327 w/ 4 inch barrel, adjustable sights... Pricey... Then saw the Unercovette and figured, cheap, not 37 but close enough, so got it.
Before I could get it to the range I saw a Taurus 327. Oooh, closer so got it. Figured it would be better for working up 32 H&R loads for the Undercoverette and kind of forgot about her. That said, I'd rather carry the Undercoverette s the 327 is a heavy chunk of steel (relatively speaking).
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2024 07:53 PM (/lPRQ)
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Is Joe going to pardon himself too?
Posted by: fd at December 01, 2024 07:50 PM (vFG9F)
Now I HAVE to know. What kind of trouble has Fun Size Joe gotten into that he needs a pardon? And would he need it from Weasel or WeaselWoman?
Posted by: fd at December 01, 2024 07:50 PM (vFG9F)
Now I HAVE to know. What kind of trouble has Fun Size Joe gotten into that he needs a pardon? And would he need it from Weasel or WeaselWoman?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 07:54 PM (VNX3d)
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I did not carry in Detroit last night, nor Chicago two weeks ago, will not in New Orleans a couple weeks from now.
I did not carry in Detroit last night, nor Chicago two weeks ago, will not in New Orleans a couple weeks from now.
Posted by: Auspex at December 01, 2024 07:54 PM (j4U/Z)
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Just realized, I will be heading to Texas in February for a concert. My friend suggested bringing my handguns as he knows a range i San Antonio we can go to. How can I say no? LOL
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 01, 2024 07:54 PM (0XVad)
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Hmmm
My Tisas M1911 seems easier to disassemble/assemble than my government issued M1911.
Must be getting old.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2024 07:45 PM (W/lyH)
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The Tisas is all-match from the factory. Your GI 1911 was probably a grab-bag of refurbed parts.
My Tisas M1911 seems easier to disassemble/assemble than my government issued M1911.
Must be getting old.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2024 07:45 PM (W/lyH)
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The Tisas is all-match from the factory. Your GI 1911 was probably a grab-bag of refurbed parts.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 07:55 PM (ZOv7s)
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What's that old adage, if he is getting a pardon he must have been guilty having never been charged with anything
Posted by: Skip at December 01, 2024 07:55 PM (fwDg9)
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Joey pardons Hunter.
Joey pardons Hunter.
Posted by: Auspex at December 01, 2024 07:55 PM (j4U/Z)
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The usual culprit in barrels wearing out isn't with rifling, but rather with chamber erosion. Some guys will cut an inch off the chamber end and have a new chamber cut, but you don't get the same barrel life you did originally. If you're really serious about precision, it's time for a new barrel. Look at it like getting new tires for your car.
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2024 07:49 PM (fghTy)
OK, that makes sense. Perhaps the worn barrels could be rechambered, and sold to users who don't need that level of accuracy?
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2024 07:49 PM (fghTy)
OK, that makes sense. Perhaps the worn barrels could be rechambered, and sold to users who don't need that level of accuracy?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 07:55 PM (rsgN5)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 01, 2024 07:55 PM (mH6SG)
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102 101 100!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 01, 2024 07:50 PM (v23vE)
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Fundamentals, son. Fundamentals.
Posted by: TRex
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LOL.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 01, 2024 07:50 PM (v23vE)
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Fundamentals, son. Fundamentals.
Posted by: TRex
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LOL.
Posted by: scampydog at December 01, 2024 07:55 PM (41CYW)
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109 Anybody ever got a gun and never shot it?
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Yes. Many. One of which is my 1911.
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Yes. Many. One of which is my 1911.
Posted by: scampydog at December 01, 2024 07:57 PM (41CYW)
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IceKingJOE's Final Bequeath to the World he reduce to a state no better than a log tumbling end over end down the raging rapids, it's people reduced to little more than Ants clinging to it for their very lives.
...to not only Sponsor our Adversaries, but actively defend them, but TO-ALSO-NOW plan their invitation to take revenge upon us for not selecting ctHARRIS -- aleppo, is just prologue.
TRUMP/Hold Him Accountable! 25th Amendment NOW!
https://tinyurl.com/IceKingJOE-forWARd
https://tinyurl.com/IceKingJOE-HeavenAndHell
https://tinyurl.com/IceKingJOE-Failed4TheLastTime
https://tinyurl.com/IceKingJOE-TakingThingsFromYou
...to not only Sponsor our Adversaries, but actively defend them, but TO-ALSO-NOW plan their invitation to take revenge upon us for not selecting ctHARRIS -- aleppo, is just prologue.
TRUMP/Hold Him Accountable! 25th Amendment NOW!
https://tinyurl.com/IceKingJOE-forWARd
https://tinyurl.com/IceKingJOE-HeavenAndHell
https://tinyurl.com/IceKingJOE-Failed4TheLastTime
https://tinyurl.com/IceKingJOE-TakingThingsFromYou
Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at December 01, 2024 07:57 PM (imN6w)
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The Tisas is all-match from the factory. Your GI 1911 was probably a grab-bag of refurbed parts.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 07:55 PM (ZOv7s)
Good point.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 07:55 PM (ZOv7s)
Good point.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2024 07:58 PM (W/lyH)
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That said, I'd rather carry the Undercoverette s the 327 is a heavy chunk of steel (relatively speaking).
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2024 07:53 PM (/lPRQ)
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I'm quite the fan of the Undercoverette. I've never shot a .327 mag, and it seems like too much of a good thing.
With the Undercoverette you get a loaded weight on par with a titanium-frame .38 special, but much better stopping power and less recoil. Because the .327 is based on a .357 frame, it's going to be a lot heavier. I mean, I guess if you think .32 Mag is underpowered, it make sense. but .32 mag is equivalent to +p .38 or .380, so it's no slouch.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2024 07:53 PM (/lPRQ)
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I'm quite the fan of the Undercoverette. I've never shot a .327 mag, and it seems like too much of a good thing.
With the Undercoverette you get a loaded weight on par with a titanium-frame .38 special, but much better stopping power and less recoil. Because the .327 is based on a .357 frame, it's going to be a lot heavier. I mean, I guess if you think .32 Mag is underpowered, it make sense. but .32 mag is equivalent to +p .38 or .380, so it's no slouch.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 07:58 PM (ZOv7s)
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I had posted before about a couple of ranges that I saw billboards for in South Carolina. One is the Palmetto State Armory Outdoor Shooting Sports Facility. The other is Champion Defense Shooting Complex. Both of them are located in Swansea, SC. This is a small town outside of Columbia.
I visited Friday after Thanksgiving. They said it was really busy. In comparison to NoVa ranges, it wasn't.
It's got a hunting lodge/country club kind of motif. It has a club house where you check in (restrooms are labeled Drakes and Hens), and you can rent golf carts to drive to your shooting stations. The majority of the facility is devoted to shooting clays. There is a 5 bay 10 yard pistol range, outdoor but covered. There is a rifle range (I think it was also 5 bay I don't remember) that had targets at 50, 100, 200, and 300 yards.
That doesn't seem like a lot of capacity. There is a lot of space devoted to the clays, but they take a lot of space, so not sure how many simultaneous shooters you can have.
They have various club memberships, and those are again geared toward the clays - each of them includes some amount of discount per clay....
I visited Friday after Thanksgiving. They said it was really busy. In comparison to NoVa ranges, it wasn't.
It's got a hunting lodge/country club kind of motif. It has a club house where you check in (restrooms are labeled Drakes and Hens), and you can rent golf carts to drive to your shooting stations. The majority of the facility is devoted to shooting clays. There is a 5 bay 10 yard pistol range, outdoor but covered. There is a rifle range (I think it was also 5 bay I don't remember) that had targets at 50, 100, 200, and 300 yards.
That doesn't seem like a lot of capacity. There is a lot of space devoted to the clays, but they take a lot of space, so not sure how many simultaneous shooters you can have.
They have various club memberships, and those are again geared toward the clays - each of them includes some amount of discount per clay....
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 01, 2024 07:58 PM (QfvaV)
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I'm aware, but if you're flying, there are sometimes discounts when you bounce between hubs.
I recall having the cheapest flight for a TDY take me from Michigan to Minneapolis, then Charlotte before arriving in Virginia. It was a recurring assignment, and when I got cut loose a day early, I called to see if flights could be changed and they were like "Well, there is a direct flight to Richmond." Oh. Good to know.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 07:51 PM (ZOv7s)
AZ is a road trip for me. Two 12 hour driving days. More or less straight South on I-15 all the way to Lost Wages, then U.S. 93 from there to PHX.
I recall having the cheapest flight for a TDY take me from Michigan to Minneapolis, then Charlotte before arriving in Virginia. It was a recurring assignment, and when I got cut loose a day early, I called to see if flights could be changed and they were like "Well, there is a direct flight to Richmond." Oh. Good to know.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 07:51 PM (ZOv7s)
AZ is a road trip for me. Two 12 hour driving days. More or less straight South on I-15 all the way to Lost Wages, then U.S. 93 from there to PHX.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 07:59 PM (rsgN5)
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There was a post on a classical music blog I read about a sad story from Fort Lauderdale where a man was shot for playing his music too loud. Reading the linked report, it appears that both the perp and victim were AAs.
The first comment, of course, was some numbskull decrying Florida, Trump, the GOP and MAGA. I acidly replied that gun violence in the US was largely Democrats shooting Democrats with this link:
https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/133535
The responses should be fun.
There was a post on a classical music blog I read about a sad story from Fort Lauderdale where a man was shot for playing his music too loud. Reading the linked report, it appears that both the perp and victim were AAs.
The first comment, of course, was some numbskull decrying Florida, Trump, the GOP and MAGA. I acidly replied that gun violence in the US was largely Democrats shooting Democrats with this link:
https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/133535
The responses should be fun.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 01, 2024 07:59 PM (dxSpM)
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Rookie ammo question. I have my dads Ruger 327 federal magnum revolver. When I went looking for ammo for it this summer there was none so I ordered some but I figured my BIL had grabbed the 32 ammo when he cleaned out the gun room after dad passed away.
I never did start reloading nor do I have a serious interest in the guns so BIL and Sister have most stuff. So when I was there in Oct I asked if they had 32 ammo since the Ruger is the only 32. They had a couple boxes and I took them home but its regular 32 ammo. The casings are shorter then 327 magnum ammo. Do I need to find someone with a 32, not 327 magnum that could use a bit of ammo? I don't want to mess up the Ruger or myself shooting ammo that won't work in it.
I never did start reloading nor do I have a serious interest in the guns so BIL and Sister have most stuff. So when I was there in Oct I asked if they had 32 ammo since the Ruger is the only 32. They had a couple boxes and I took them home but its regular 32 ammo. The casings are shorter then 327 magnum ammo. Do I need to find someone with a 32, not 327 magnum that could use a bit of ammo? I don't want to mess up the Ruger or myself shooting ammo that won't work in it.
Posted by: PaleRider at December 01, 2024 07:59 PM (UKUm3)
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IceKingJOE's Final Bequeath to the World he reduce to a state no better than a log tumbling end over end down the raging rapids, it's people reduced to little more than Ants clinging to it for their very lives.
Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at December 01, 2024 07:57 PM (imN6w)
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Hey dude, I get the passion, but we're talking firearms here. It's the one thread for that kind of thing. Rage later tonight if you must.
Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at December 01, 2024 07:57 PM (imN6w)
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Hey dude, I get the passion, but we're talking firearms here. It's the one thread for that kind of thing. Rage later tonight if you must.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 07:59 PM (ZOv7s)
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Although the basic assembly and disassembly of the Hi-Power remained the same for its entire production run, keep in mind that redesigns and parts changes mean that pre-war and WWII era Hi-Powers will not interchanges w/ post-war Hi-Powers after 1950. Canadian-made Hi-Power parts will not always interchange with FN parts due to the fact that the Canadian pistols were made using English units of measure. The FN pistols used the metric system for manufacturing.
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Thank you, Ed. My nephew's is a 1969 model made in North America so I'll keep that in mind. [And copied to my 'Firearms Info' document right now!]
And I've bookmarked several YouTube cleaning videos for the model too.
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Thank you, Ed. My nephew's is a 1969 model made in North America so I'll keep that in mind. [And copied to my 'Firearms Info' document right now!]
And I've bookmarked several YouTube cleaning videos for the model too.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 08:00 PM (hovnC)
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Anybody ever got a gun and never shot it?
Can't say that I have.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 01, 2024 07:55 PM (mH6SG)
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I have.
Kind of on a whim, I bought this poor old beaten-to-shit police trade-in Model 10. I think I paid $200 for it. Being a cop gun it had been carried to death but actually fired very little so everything was still very tight. I boxed the poor thing up and sent it to S&W and paid for their super-deluxe rebluing. They must've felt sorry for it because they completely refinished it taking out all of the nicks and scratches and sent it back to me looking brand new. They did an amazing job. I've never fired it.
Can't say that I have.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 01, 2024 07:55 PM (mH6SG)
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I have.
Kind of on a whim, I bought this poor old beaten-to-shit police trade-in Model 10. I think I paid $200 for it. Being a cop gun it had been carried to death but actually fired very little so everything was still very tight. I boxed the poor thing up and sent it to S&W and paid for their super-deluxe rebluing. They must've felt sorry for it because they completely refinished it taking out all of the nicks and scratches and sent it back to me looking brand new. They did an amazing job. I've never fired it.
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2024 08:02 PM (fghTy)
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OK. The reason I ask is that I ordered mine from Northland Shooters Supply and they had a bunch of different configurations in stock.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 01, 2024 07:48 PM (/y8xj)
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funny thing, that's who I ordered the new barrel through. They had several 06 barrels in stock, but none with the contour I was looking for.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 01, 2024 07:48 PM (/y8xj)
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funny thing, that's who I ordered the new barrel through. They had several 06 barrels in stock, but none with the contour I was looking for.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 01, 2024 08:02 PM (tT6L1)
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Do I need to find someone with a 32, not 327 magnum that could use a bit of ammo? I don't want to mess up the Ruger or myself shooting ammo that won't work in it.
I'm not the expert but my understanding is that part of the appeal of the .327 Mag is that you can shoot .32 in it, sort of like .357/.38 Spl or .44 Mag/.44 Spl.
I'm not the expert but my understanding is that part of the appeal of the .327 Mag is that you can shoot .32 in it, sort of like .357/.38 Spl or .44 Mag/.44 Spl.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 01, 2024 08:03 PM (/y8xj)
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in biden's defense, he probably didn't know what he was signing. next thing you know you he'll think he was signing a christmas card to andy mccabe
Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 01, 2024 08:03 PM (CWTWj)
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Sorry 2024
Posted by: banana Dream
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Probably is 2025. Gets a prospective pardon to run wild for a year on hookers and blow as a bonus.
Posted by: banana Dream
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Probably is 2025. Gets a prospective pardon to run wild for a year on hookers and blow as a bonus.
Posted by: Buff Pocoroba at December 01, 2024 08:04 PM (Dm8we)
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They had a couple boxes and I took them home but its regular 32 ammo. The casings are shorter then 327 magnum ammo. Do I need to find someone with a 32, not 327 magnum that could use a bit of ammo? I don't want to mess up the Ruger or myself shooting ammo that won't work in it.
Posted by: PaleRider at December 01, 2024 07:59 PM (UKUm3)
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A weapon chambered for .327 Federal Magnum can safely use .32 H&R Magnum, .32 S&W Long and .32 S&W (aka .32 Short).
It can also handle .32 ACP because that is a semi-rimmed cartridge and you can see people demonstrating this on Youtube. If you use .32 ACP, be aware that some brands will not work well, with light strikes being common.
Posted by: PaleRider at December 01, 2024 07:59 PM (UKUm3)
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A weapon chambered for .327 Federal Magnum can safely use .32 H&R Magnum, .32 S&W Long and .32 S&W (aka .32 Short).
It can also handle .32 ACP because that is a semi-rimmed cartridge and you can see people demonstrating this on Youtube. If you use .32 ACP, be aware that some brands will not work well, with light strikes being common.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 08:04 PM (ZOv7s)
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I'm not the expert but my understanding is that part of the appeal of the .327 Mag is that you can shoot .32 in it, sort of like .357/.38 Spl or .44 Mag/.44 Spl.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 01, 2024 08:03 PM (/y8xj)
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That'd make sense to me.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 01, 2024 08:03 PM (/y8xj)
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That'd make sense to me.
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2024 08:05 PM (fghTy)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 01, 2024 08:05 PM (dxSpM)
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biden will soon have a white house ceremony to pardon a christmas ham
Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 01, 2024 08:05 PM (CWTWj)
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123 I had posted before about a couple of ranges that I saw billboards for in South Carolina. One is the Palmetto State Armory Outdoor Shooting Sports Facility. The other is Champion Defense Shooting Complex. Both of them are located in Swansea, SC. This is a small town outside of Columbia.
I visited Friday after Thanksgiving.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 01, 2024 07:58 PM
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Did I miss the part about bacon delivery via golf cart?
I visited Friday after Thanksgiving.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 01, 2024 07:58 PM
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Did I miss the part about bacon delivery via golf cart?
Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 08:05 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Light primer strikes, I mean. The semi-rim is just that much farther from the hammer, so less force behind the firing pin.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 08:06 PM (ZOv7s)
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I never did start reloading nor do I have a serious interest in the guns so BIL and Sister have most stuff. So when I was there in Oct I asked if they had 32 ammo since the Ruger is the only 32. They had a couple boxes and I took them home but its regular 32 ammo. The casings are shorter then 327 magnum ammo. Do I need to find someone with a 32, not 327 magnum that could use a bit of ammo? I don't want to mess up the Ruger or myself shooting ammo that won't work in it.
Posted by: PaleRider at December 01, 2024 07:59 PM (UKUm3)
I think I have read here that it is OK to shoot .32 Long Colt in a revolver chambered for .327 Magnum. Kind of an analogous situation to shooting .38 Special from a revolver chambered in .357 Magnum. A.H. Lloyd and Ed L. will have the real skinny.
Posted by: PaleRider at December 01, 2024 07:59 PM (UKUm3)
I think I have read here that it is OK to shoot .32 Long Colt in a revolver chambered for .327 Magnum. Kind of an analogous situation to shooting .38 Special from a revolver chambered in .357 Magnum. A.H. Lloyd and Ed L. will have the real skinny.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 08:06 PM (rsgN5)
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What are the weapons with the large barrel covers of some type with the bipods between the bolt-action bipod rifles and the handguns arranged 69-style in the photo mid-rear??
And I don't have any mortars or RPGs in my collection.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 07:48 PM (hovnC)
Can't tell for sure, but I think they're RPG-2's. If you zoom the picture in, you'll see the grip with the trigger right behind the bipod. It looks like an RPG-7 is lying on the tarp directly in front of the RPG-2s. They could also be Chinese made Type 56's, a Chinese copy of the RPG-2. China supplied numbers of this weapon to both the Iranians and Iraqis during the Iran-Iraq war in the 1980s.
And I don't have any mortars or RPGs in my collection.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 07:48 PM (hovnC)
Can't tell for sure, but I think they're RPG-2's. If you zoom the picture in, you'll see the grip with the trigger right behind the bipod. It looks like an RPG-7 is lying on the tarp directly in front of the RPG-2s. They could also be Chinese made Type 56's, a Chinese copy of the RPG-2. China supplied numbers of this weapon to both the Iranians and Iraqis during the Iran-Iraq war in the 1980s.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 08:06 PM (AiJK3)
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They did an amazing job. I've never fired it.
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2024 08:02 PM
Makes perfect sense, amigo.
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2024 08:02 PM
Makes perfect sense, amigo.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 01, 2024 08:06 PM (mH6SG)
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Well, time to wander. No idea where the 4 day holiday went, but, it has gone by quickly.
Have a good evening!
Later and thanks again, Weasel!
Have a good evening!
Later and thanks again, Weasel!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 01, 2024 08:06 PM (tT6L1)
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biden will soon have a white house ceremony to pardon a christmas ham
Maybe Hunter convinced him that one of the Thanksgiving Day turkeys was, by the weirdest coincidence, named "Hunter Biden."
Maybe Hunter convinced him that one of the Thanksgiving Day turkeys was, by the weirdest coincidence, named "Hunter Biden."
Posted by: Oddbob at December 01, 2024 08:07 PM (/y8xj)
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CAUTION: if you happen upon an older .32 revolver, be very careful what you put into it. Those that use .32 S&W long and also handle .32 short, but they may also chamber .32 ACP.
DO NOT TRY THIS. The pressure of .32 ACP is on par with .32 H&R Magnum, and many of those cheap Iver Johnsons will not stand up to it. The modern .32 Mag and .327 Mag have lengthened cases by design so they should not chamber.
DO NOT TRY THIS. The pressure of .32 ACP is on par with .32 H&R Magnum, and many of those cheap Iver Johnsons will not stand up to it. The modern .32 Mag and .327 Mag have lengthened cases by design so they should not chamber.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 08:08 PM (ZOv7s)
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biden will soon have a white house ceremony to pardon a christmas ham
Maybe Hunter convinced him that one of the Thanksgiving Day turkeys was, by the weirdest coincidence, named "Hunter Biden."
Posted by: Oddbob at December 01, 2024 08:07 PM (/y8xj)
I can see him pardoning a case of Vodka, to save it from the most recent Nacho President (KH).
Maybe Hunter convinced him that one of the Thanksgiving Day turkeys was, by the weirdest coincidence, named "Hunter Biden."
Posted by: Oddbob at December 01, 2024 08:07 PM (/y8xj)
I can see him pardoning a case of Vodka, to save it from the most recent Nacho President (KH).
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 08:09 PM (VNX3d)
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Ok, finished 1911 world. Learned things.
Range Report!
Yes, it was 27 degrees with light blowing snow.
Took my 10-22 out for a run. It had been eyeing me for lack of attention.
CCI MiniMag, just because.
Did 50, 100, 200 and 300.
BUT (here’s where it gets good). I sent my newish drone down range to record hits. Of which there were a sufficient number. At 200, the challenge tree panels will move. At 300, nope. Just a ting. Can’t see on the video.
I wish I was a better video editor because I have .308 hits at 525 yards that are impressive.
Range Report!
Yes, it was 27 degrees with light blowing snow.
Took my 10-22 out for a run. It had been eyeing me for lack of attention.
CCI MiniMag, just because.
Did 50, 100, 200 and 300.
BUT (here’s where it gets good). I sent my newish drone down range to record hits. Of which there were a sufficient number. At 200, the challenge tree panels will move. At 300, nope. Just a ting. Can’t see on the video.
I wish I was a better video editor because I have .308 hits at 525 yards that are impressive.
Posted by: RI Red at December 01, 2024 08:09 PM (JjOQR)
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141 Can't tell for sure, but I think they're RPG-2's. If you zoom the picture in, you'll see the grip with the trigger right behind the bipod. It looks like an RPG-7 is lying on the tarp directly in front of the RPG-2s. They could also be Chinese made Type 56's, a Chinese copy of the RPG-2.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 08:06 PM
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Ed, next time we're at the range together, please show the differences in the "weapons for rent" display case. Will be easier to see there. Thank you.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 08:06 PM
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Ed, next time we're at the range together, please show the differences in the "weapons for rent" display case. Will be easier to see there. Thank you.
Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 08:09 PM (IQ6Gq)
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They had several 06 barrels in stock, but none with the contour I was looking for.
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The bent one for shooting around corners I saw in a Looney Tunes??
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The bent one for shooting around corners I saw in a Looney Tunes??
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 08:10 PM (hovnC)
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Ed, next time we're at the range together, please show the differences in the "weapons for rent" display case. Will be easier to see there. Thank you.
Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 08:09 PM (IQ6Gq)
You can rent a rocket-propelled grenade? Want!
Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 08:09 PM (IQ6Gq)
You can rent a rocket-propelled grenade? Want!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 08:10 PM (rsgN5)
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Thanks A.H. Lloyd. I thought I recalled you liked the 32 caliber.
Posted by: PaleRider at December 01, 2024 08:10 PM (UKUm3)
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so does this mean that hunter doesn't need to pay child support?
Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 01, 2024 08:10 PM (CWTWj)
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BTW, Weasel, is that a “no-no” square up above?
Posted by: RI Red at December 01, 2024 08:11 PM (JjOQR)
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They did an amazing job. I've never fired it.
Posted by: Weasel
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Adjacent story with my 1911. NIB, Uncle sent it in for light modifications. Still NIB.
Posted by: Weasel
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Adjacent story with my 1911. NIB, Uncle sent it in for light modifications. Still NIB.
Posted by: scampydog at December 01, 2024 08:11 PM (41CYW)
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142 They did an amazing job. I've never fired it.
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2024 08:02 PM
Makes perfect sense, amigo.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 01, 2024 08:06 PM (mH6SG)
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I really felt sorry for the poor old thing, I figured it deserved to be treated right in retirement. I'm sure the refinish cost twice as much as the gun, but the results are astounding.
I have another banged up Model 10 police trade-in which is a lot of fun to shoot. If you ever have a chance to get one, don't pass it up!
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2024 08:02 PM
Makes perfect sense, amigo.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 01, 2024 08:06 PM (mH6SG)
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I really felt sorry for the poor old thing, I figured it deserved to be treated right in retirement. I'm sure the refinish cost twice as much as the gun, but the results are astounding.
I have another banged up Model 10 police trade-in which is a lot of fun to shoot. If you ever have a chance to get one, don't pass it up!
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2024 08:11 PM (fghTy)
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147 I sent my newish drone down range to record hits.
Posted by: RI Red at December 01, 2024 08:09 PM
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Outstanding! Congrats. Great use of a drone too. Not sure I could effectively fire a weapon and fly a downrange drone at the same time, but you have skillz!!
Posted by: RI Red at December 01, 2024 08:09 PM
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Outstanding! Congrats. Great use of a drone too. Not sure I could effectively fire a weapon and fly a downrange drone at the same time, but you have skillz!!
Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 08:12 PM (IQ6Gq)
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BTW, Weasel, is that a “no-no” square up above?
Posted by: RI Red at December 01, 2024 08:11 PM (JjOQR)
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Just keeping it family friendly.
Posted by: RI Red at December 01, 2024 08:11 PM (JjOQR)
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Just keeping it family friendly.
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2024 08:12 PM (fghTy)
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Champion Defense has a totally different vibe. The rifle side has 20 bays, a couple of those are 50 yard zero, 3 are standing with a barrier/support, the rest are bench or prone. The range goes out to 600 yards. There are 5 different pistol areas. They call them bays but each can have multiple shooters. You can just back your truck up to the bay and then use your tailgate to lay out your gear. One of them is rimfire only.
And there is a "general purpose" range which is rifle or pistol and you can do barriers etc.
They also have an archery range.
They have memberships or passes for day ($30), week, or month.
I like it BUT - I do have some questions about safety. They have 2 RSOs that cover that whole layout I just described. There is a LOT of reliance on the shooters experience and self-policing. The guy who gave me the tour said on the general purpose range you can set up barriers at different distances but you need to coordinate with other shooters so everyone is shooting from the same firing line.
I expect their clientele is largely experienced shooters, and their plan has worked for them to this date.
And there is a "general purpose" range which is rifle or pistol and you can do barriers etc.
They also have an archery range.
They have memberships or passes for day ($30), week, or month.
I like it BUT - I do have some questions about safety. They have 2 RSOs that cover that whole layout I just described. There is a LOT of reliance on the shooters experience and self-policing. The guy who gave me the tour said on the general purpose range you can set up barriers at different distances but you need to coordinate with other shooters so everyone is shooting from the same firing line.
I expect their clientele is largely experienced shooters, and their plan has worked for them to this date.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 01, 2024 08:13 PM (QfvaV)
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I think I have read here that it is OK to shoot .32 Long Colt in a revolver chambered for .327 Magnum. Kind of an analogous situation to shooting .38 Special from a revolver chambered in .357 Magnum. A.H. Lloyd and Ed L. will have the real skinny.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 08:06 PM (rsgN5)
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That is correct.
I will add that .32 Long is a criminally underappreciated self defense caliber. The guns chambered in it are dirt cheap (unless they're Colts, lol), and ammo is plentiful online and affordable.
Why bother? Well, you get the simplicity (and safety) of a revolver, and if you are concerned about recoil, .32 Long is very mild. it also packs much more stopping power than .22 LR or .25 ACP and for a long time was a popular police caliber.
Shot placement is king, folks, and if you are more comfortable shooting mild loads, go with it. If you cringe at recoil and regard range time as a chore, you're shooting something too heavy for you.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 08:06 PM (rsgN5)
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That is correct.
I will add that .32 Long is a criminally underappreciated self defense caliber. The guns chambered in it are dirt cheap (unless they're Colts, lol), and ammo is plentiful online and affordable.
Why bother? Well, you get the simplicity (and safety) of a revolver, and if you are concerned about recoil, .32 Long is very mild. it also packs much more stopping power than .22 LR or .25 ACP and for a long time was a popular police caliber.
Shot placement is king, folks, and if you are more comfortable shooting mild loads, go with it. If you cringe at recoil and regard range time as a chore, you're shooting something too heavy for you.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 08:13 PM (ZOv7s)
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so does this mean that hunter doesn't need to pay child support?
Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 01, 2024 08:10 PM (CWTWj)
I'm guessing:
1. Civil court
2. State matter
So a federal pardon does not get him off the hook.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 01, 2024 08:10 PM (CWTWj)
I'm guessing:
1. Civil court
2. State matter
So a federal pardon does not get him off the hook.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 08:13 PM (rsgN5)
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BUT (here’s where it gets good). I sent my newish drone down range to record hits. Of which there were a sufficient number. At 200, the challenge tree panels will move. At 300, nope. Just a ting. Can’t see on the video.
I wish I was a better video editor because I have .308 hits at 525 yards that are impressive.
Posted by: RI Red at December 01, 2024 08:09 PM (JjOQR)
The drone idea is brilliant!
I wish I was a better video editor because I have .308 hits at 525 yards that are impressive.
Posted by: RI Red at December 01, 2024 08:09 PM (JjOQR)
The drone idea is brilliant!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 01, 2024 08:13 PM (v23vE)
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Not a blanket pardon? Lots of crimes.
Posted by: davidt at December 01, 2024 08:15 PM (i0F8b)
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Anybody ever got a gun and never shot it?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2024 07:53 PM (/lPRQ)
I have a couple I've bought new and haven't fired. One is an ex-USMC M45A1 (last US military contract 1911) that was never issued before it was decommissioned and sold on the collectors' market. Another is a 1997 bright stainless steel Colt Python (one of the last of the original V1.0 Python production run guns) that has never been fired (no turn line on the cylinder). Shooting these would lower their value/price.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2024 07:53 PM (/lPRQ)
I have a couple I've bought new and haven't fired. One is an ex-USMC M45A1 (last US military contract 1911) that was never issued before it was decommissioned and sold on the collectors' market. Another is a 1997 bright stainless steel Colt Python (one of the last of the original V1.0 Python production run guns) that has never been fired (no turn line on the cylinder). Shooting these would lower their value/price.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 08:15 PM (AiJK3)
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Did I miss the part about bacon delivery via golf cart?
Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 08:05 PM (IQ6Gq)
You did not. That is not, as near as I can tell, an offering, but if they did that I would have signed up on the spot.
Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 08:05 PM (IQ6Gq)
You did not. That is not, as near as I can tell, an offering, but if they did that I would have signed up on the spot.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 01, 2024 08:17 PM (QfvaV)
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Anybody ever got a gun and never shot it?
Can't say that I have.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 01, 2024 07:55 PM (mH6SG)
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Yep. My Dad's Bullseye competition 1911 chambered in .38 AMU. Ammo is obviously not available commercially, and as a novice reloader I wouldn't have a clue how to make that round. Not sure that I'd want to shoot it anyway.
Can't say that I have.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 01, 2024 07:55 PM (mH6SG)
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Yep. My Dad's Bullseye competition 1911 chambered in .38 AMU. Ammo is obviously not available commercially, and as a novice reloader I wouldn't have a clue how to make that round. Not sure that I'd want to shoot it anyway.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at December 01, 2024 08:17 PM (Hdixl)
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I have three guns and have yet to fire any of them.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 01, 2024 08:17 PM (CHHv1)
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I really felt sorry for the poor old thing, I figured it deserved to be treated right in retirement.
As do I. I'm at the point in life that I could probably benefit from a refinish. Heh.
As do I. I'm at the point in life that I could probably benefit from a refinish. Heh.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 01, 2024 08:18 PM (mH6SG)
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 01, 2024 08:18 PM (QfvaV)
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I will add that .32 Long is a criminally underappreciated self defense caliber. The guns chambered in it are dirt cheap (unless they're Colts, lol), and ammo is plentiful online and affordable.
Why bother? Well, you get the simplicity (and safety) of a revolver, and if you are concerned about recoil, .32 Long is very mild. it also packs much more stopping power than .22 LR or .25 ACP and for a long time was a popular police caliber.
Shot placement is king, folks, and if you are more comfortable shooting mild loads, go with it. If you cringe at recoil and regard range time as a chore, you're shooting something too heavy for you.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 08:13 PM (ZOv7s)
I really like the little H&R pocket hammerless I have in .32 S&W short.
Looks very similar to this, and just about as nice:
https://tinyurl.com/39h3n82x
Has an issue with light primer strikes.
Why bother? Well, you get the simplicity (and safety) of a revolver, and if you are concerned about recoil, .32 Long is very mild. it also packs much more stopping power than .22 LR or .25 ACP and for a long time was a popular police caliber.
Shot placement is king, folks, and if you are more comfortable shooting mild loads, go with it. If you cringe at recoil and regard range time as a chore, you're shooting something too heavy for you.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 08:13 PM (ZOv7s)
I really like the little H&R pocket hammerless I have in .32 S&W short.
Looks very similar to this, and just about as nice:
https://tinyurl.com/39h3n82x
Has an issue with light primer strikes.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 08:19 PM (rsgN5)
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Every gun at the bottom of our creek is (or was) a shooter.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 01, 2024 08:19 PM (QfvaV)
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Can't tell for sure, but I think they're RPG-2's. If you zoom the picture in, you'll see the grip with the trigger right behind the bipod. It looks like an RPG-7 is lying on the tarp directly in front of the RPG-2s. They could also be Chinese made Type 56's, a Chinese copy of the RPG-2. China supplied numbers of this weapon to both the Iranians and Iraqis during the Iran-Iraq war in the 1980s.
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Thanks. They didn't look like rifle-barrel handguards or some type of shroud, looking like the muzzle was that large 2" across or whatever so a smalllish RPG makes sense. An image search shows me bipod versions too.
Cool. Thanks.
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Thanks. They didn't look like rifle-barrel handguards or some type of shroud, looking like the muzzle was that large 2" across or whatever so a smalllish RPG makes sense. An image search shows me bipod versions too.
Cool. Thanks.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 08:20 PM (hovnC)
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The drone hovers in place, so I can sit there and take my time.
The one thing I haven’t figured out is spalling. I had to get close to the 200 to get good shots of the paddles moving. I don’t think I’d do that with a larger caliber.
One of the reasons I got the drone was to spot for me when I’m shooting alone at distance. But the transition from sight picture to viewing screen takes some doing.
The one thing I haven’t figured out is spalling. I had to get close to the 200 to get good shots of the paddles moving. I don’t think I’d do that with a larger caliber.
One of the reasons I got the drone was to spot for me when I’m shooting alone at distance. But the transition from sight picture to viewing screen takes some doing.
Posted by: RI Red at December 01, 2024 08:21 PM (JjOQR)
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Holy shit Biden pardoned his son Hunter.
Posted by: Vivi at December 01, 2024 08:22 PM (Egz6Y)
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162 Not a blanket pardon? Lots of crimes.
Posted by: davidt at December 01, 2024 08:15 PM (i0F8b)
It was a blanket pardon.
Posted by: davidt at December 01, 2024 08:15 PM (i0F8b)
It was a blanket pardon.
Posted by: Liberty at December 01, 2024 08:22 PM (wmcPi)
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You can rent a rocket-propelled grenade? Want!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 08:10 PM (rsgN5)
Try Battlefield Vegas. If you're willing to drop enough money, you can rent an M134D Minigun. $350 gets you 100 rounds of 7.62mm NATO, enough for one second of fire.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 08:10 PM (rsgN5)
Try Battlefield Vegas. If you're willing to drop enough money, you can rent an M134D Minigun. $350 gets you 100 rounds of 7.62mm NATO, enough for one second of fire.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 08:22 PM (AiJK3)
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Here's a link to one of the class offerings at Champion Defense, a Basics of Long-Range Shooting course
https://tinyurl.com/bdvfjfbv
Note the cost.
Now ask yourself why you haven't gotten to the Texas MoMe yet....
https://tinyurl.com/bdvfjfbv
Note the cost.
Now ask yourself why you haven't gotten to the Texas MoMe yet....
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 01, 2024 08:23 PM (QfvaV)
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I was kind of laughing at the censored doggo picture. But on the other hand, it probably did save you from a fusillade of...um... dog jokes. Yeah, really rude dog jokes. Lol....
Posted by: Thorsthimble at December 01, 2024 08:23 PM (tZXns)
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Do I need to find someone with a 32, not 327 magnum that could use a bit of ammo? I don't want to mess up the Ruger or myself shooting ammo that won't work in it.
Posted by: PaleRider
Somebody prolly got this already, but a 327 revolver will eat -
327 Federal Magnum
32 H&R Magnum
32 S&W Long*
32 S&W (short)
320 ACP (semi-rimmed but bullet my be an RCH smaller dimeter)
* Not Colt
Posted by: PaleRider
Somebody prolly got this already, but a 327 revolver will eat -
327 Federal Magnum
32 H&R Magnum
32 S&W Long*
32 S&W (short)
320 ACP (semi-rimmed but bullet my be an RCH smaller dimeter)
* Not Colt
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2024 08:23 PM (/lPRQ)
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167 . I'm at the point in life that I could probably benefit from a refinish. Heh.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 01, 2024 08:18 PM
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We have the technology. We have the capability to make the world's first bionic man. Notorious BFD will be that man. Better than he was before.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 01, 2024 08:18 PM
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We have the technology. We have the capability to make the world's first bionic man. Notorious BFD will be that man. Better than he was before.
Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 08:24 PM (IQ6Gq)
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People are actually surprised Hunter got pardoned? Really? He was getting a pardon after the election no matter who won.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 01, 2024 08:24 PM (QfvaV)
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I was kind of laughing at the censored doggo picture. But on the other hand, it probably did save you from a fusillade of...um... dog jokes. Yeah, really rude dog jokes. Lol....
Posted by: Thorsthimble
Weiner dog jokes have entered the thread.
Posted by: Thorsthimble
Weiner dog jokes have entered the thread.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 01, 2024 08:24 PM (WXNFJ)
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Try Battlefield Vegas. If you're willing to drop enough money, you can rent an M134D Minigun. $350 gets you 100 rounds of 7.62mm NATO, enough for one second of fire.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 08:22 PM (AiJK3)
One could probably get a lot more seconds for the same coin out in Pahrump County.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 08:22 PM (AiJK3)
One could probably get a lot more seconds for the same coin out in Pahrump County.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 08:25 PM (rsgN5)
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Okay, a question for the group.
Hypothetically speaking, if one wanted to collect representative samples of, for example, WW II military sidearms, would the weapons in question have to be wartime production, or would post-war manufacture be acceptable?
What about replicas? Tisa has an arrangement with CMP to produce what they call "museum-grade" WW II 1911A1s that are specially marked by the CMP. Would that fill the 1911 niche? The idea is to have the "look and feel" rather than specific collector models.
Hypothetically speaking, if one wanted to collect representative samples of, for example, WW II military sidearms, would the weapons in question have to be wartime production, or would post-war manufacture be acceptable?
What about replicas? Tisa has an arrangement with CMP to produce what they call "museum-grade" WW II 1911A1s that are specially marked by the CMP. Would that fill the 1911 niche? The idea is to have the "look and feel" rather than specific collector models.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 08:25 PM (ZOv7s)
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We have the technology. We have the capability to make the world's first bionic man. Notorious BFD will be that man. Better than he was before.
And I shall be ready to serve honorably.
And I shall be ready to serve honorably.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 01, 2024 08:25 PM (mH6SG)
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174 162 Not a blanket pardon? Lots of crimes.
Posted by: davidt at December 01, 2024 08:15 PM (i0F8b)
It was a blanket pardon.
Posted by: Liberty at December 01, 2024 08:22 PM (wmcPi)
Does the blanket cover all the international graft/treason?
Posted by: davidt at December 01, 2024 08:15 PM (i0F8b)
It was a blanket pardon.
Posted by: Liberty at December 01, 2024 08:22 PM (wmcPi)
Does the blanket cover all the international graft/treason?
Posted by: davidt at December 01, 2024 08:25 PM (i0F8b)
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176 Here's a link to one of the class offerings at Champion Defense, a Basics of Long-Range Shooting course
https://tinyurl.com/bdvfjfbv
Note the cost.
Now ask yourself why you haven't gotten to the Texas MoMe yet....
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 01, 2024 08:23 PM (QfvaV)
What Blaster said. TXMoMe -- best value anywhere!
https://tinyurl.com/bdvfjfbv
Note the cost.
Now ask yourself why you haven't gotten to the Texas MoMe yet....
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 01, 2024 08:23 PM (QfvaV)
What Blaster said. TXMoMe -- best value anywhere!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 01, 2024 08:25 PM (v23vE)
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I was kind of laughing at the censored doggo picture. But on the other hand, it probably did save you from a fusillade of...um... dog jokes. Yeah, really rude dog jokes. Lol....
Posted by: Thorsthimble
Weiner dog jokes have entered the thread.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 01, 2024 08:24 PM (WXNFJ)
Well, at least he didn't replace it with a footlong hot dog. Although, FSJ might have liked it, if he understood.
Posted by: Thorsthimble
Weiner dog jokes have entered the thread.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 01, 2024 08:24 PM (WXNFJ)
Well, at least he didn't replace it with a footlong hot dog. Although, FSJ might have liked it, if he understood.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 08:26 PM (VNX3d)
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Now ask yourself why you haven't gotten to the Texas MoMe yet....
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 01, 2024 08:23 PM (QfvaV)
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I try to convince people!
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 01, 2024 08:23 PM (QfvaV)
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I try to convince people!
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2024 08:27 PM (fghTy)
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In gun news, Hunter Biden was pardoned by Joe for his gun charge convictions.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 01, 2024 08:27 PM (D6PGr)
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180 People are actually surprised Hunter got pardoned? Really? He was getting a pardon after the election no matter who won.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 01, 2024 08:24 PM (QfvaV)
Only surprised at the timing. Thought Joe would have pardoned Hunter prior to the turkeys...
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 01, 2024 08:24 PM (QfvaV)
Only surprised at the timing. Thought Joe would have pardoned Hunter prior to the turkeys...
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 01, 2024 08:27 PM (v23vE)
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Guessing Hunter's blanket pardon doesn't let his partners in crime skate?
Posted by: davidt at December 01, 2024 08:27 PM (i0F8b)
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The one thing I haven’t figured out is spalling. I had to get close to the 200 to get good shots of the paddles moving. I don’t think I’d do that with a larger caliber.
One of the reasons I got the drone was to spot for me when I’m shooting alone at distance. But the transition from sight picture to viewing screen takes some doing.
Posted by: RI Red at December 01, 2024 08:21 PM (JjOQR)
I saw someone with a video screen on their optic while touring the Champion Defense range - I wish I had stopped a bit longer to take a look at the setup.
One of the reasons I got the drone was to spot for me when I’m shooting alone at distance. But the transition from sight picture to viewing screen takes some doing.
Posted by: RI Red at December 01, 2024 08:21 PM (JjOQR)
I saw someone with a video screen on their optic while touring the Champion Defense range - I wish I had stopped a bit longer to take a look at the setup.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 01, 2024 08:27 PM (QfvaV)
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177 I was kind of laughing at the censored doggo picture. But on the other hand, it probably did save you from a fusillade of...um... dog jokes. Yeah, really rude dog jokes. Lol....
Posted by: Thorsthimble at December 01, 2024 08:23 PM
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Those jokes would have required a pardon.
Posted by: Thorsthimble at December 01, 2024 08:23 PM
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Those jokes would have required a pardon.
Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 08:28 PM (IQ6Gq)
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It was fun to take the 10-22 out today. Of course I loaded a bunch of magazines in the car.
But it just shot reliably and fairly accurately. Not like my aspirin shoot rifles. But who wants to work a bolt when you can just put rounds down range very quickly.
Thereby keeping hands warm and drone batteries working.
But it just shot reliably and fairly accurately. Not like my aspirin shoot rifles. But who wants to work a bolt when you can just put rounds down range very quickly.
Thereby keeping hands warm and drone batteries working.
Posted by: RI Red at December 01, 2024 08:28 PM (JjOQR)
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I was kind of laughing at the censored doggo picture. But on the other hand, it probably did save you from a fusillade of...um... dog jokes. Yeah, really rude dog jokes. Lol....
Posted by: Thorsthimble at December 01, 2024 08:23 PM (tZXns)
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Yep!
Posted by: Thorsthimble at December 01, 2024 08:23 PM (tZXns)
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Yep!
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2024 08:28 PM (fghTy)
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Hypothetically speaking, if one wanted to collect representative samples of, for example, WW II military sidearms, would the weapons in question have to be wartime production, or would post-war manufacture be acceptable?
Your collection, your rules. Buy what you want with the only caveat being don't risk the retirement fund.
Your collection, your rules. Buy what you want with the only caveat being don't risk the retirement fund.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 01, 2024 08:29 PM (/y8xj)
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Near’s I can figure I have maybe five new in the box in the safe, I mean creek. Maybe a couple Glocks, couple S&W, a Kimber, something else I can’t remember. I know how those handle, no rush to make them ‘used’. There are others that I used to shoot before the canoe incident.
Posted by: Eromero at December 01, 2024 08:29 PM (LHPAg)
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32 S&W Long*
32 S&W (short)
320 ACP (semi-rimmed but bullet my be an RCH smaller dimeter)
* Not Colt
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2024 08:23 PM (/lPRQ)
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The Colt .32 caliber was the same as Smith, it was just a marketing ploy back when the name of the ammo was important.
If you go to ammo sites, .32 S&W Long is listed as identical to .32 Colt New Police.
32 S&W (short)
320 ACP (semi-rimmed but bullet my be an RCH smaller dimeter)
* Not Colt
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2024 08:23 PM (/lPRQ)
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The Colt .32 caliber was the same as Smith, it was just a marketing ploy back when the name of the ammo was important.
If you go to ammo sites, .32 S&W Long is listed as identical to .32 Colt New Police.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 08:29 PM (ZOv7s)
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n gun news, Hunter Biden was pardoned by Joe for his gun charge convictions.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 01, 2024 08:27 PM (D6PGr)
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This is wonderful.
So much for "Rule of Law!"
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 01, 2024 08:27 PM (D6PGr)
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This is wonderful.
So much for "Rule of Law!"
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 08:30 PM (ZOv7s)
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197 Near’s I can figure I have maybe five new in the box in the safe, I mean creek. Maybe a couple Glocks, couple S&W, a Kimber, something else I can’t remember. I know how those handle, no rush to make them ‘used’. There are others that I used to shoot before the canoe incident.
Posted by: Eromero at December 01, 2024 08:29 PM (LHPAg)
People 'round these parts still talk about the Safecreek Incident.
Posted by: Eromero at December 01, 2024 08:29 PM (LHPAg)
People 'round these parts still talk about the Safecreek Incident.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 01, 2024 08:31 PM (v23vE)
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Hypothetically speaking, if one wanted to collect representative samples of, for example, WW II military sidearms, would the weapons in question have to be wartime production, or would post-war manufacture be acceptable?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 08:25 PM (ZOv7s)
It's your collection. It's like Calvin Ball. Collect whatever you like.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 08:25 PM (ZOv7s)
It's your collection. It's like Calvin Ball. Collect whatever you like.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at December 01, 2024 08:31 PM (Hdixl)
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I hope the Buffalo and other Western NY morons and ettes are okay with the lake-effect snowfall. Just the 2' according to the football announcers and not the 60" I've read for areas further west on both sides of the border. [Not a flake in Toronto BTW. The sweet spot between the several Great Lakes and Georgian Bay holds true.]
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 08:31 PM (hovnC)
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People 'round these parts still talk about the Safecreek Incident.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 01, 2024 08:31 PM (v23vE)
That must have been some canoe. A dugout canoe?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 01, 2024 08:31 PM (v23vE)
That must have been some canoe. A dugout canoe?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 08:32 PM (VNX3d)
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Pretty perfect framing of Biden lying as he leaves office.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 01, 2024 08:32 PM (IG4Id)
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Well, at least he didn't replace it with a footlong hot dog. Although, FSJ might have liked it, if he understood.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 08:26 PM (VNX3d)
Fun Size Jane has entered the chat.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 08:26 PM (VNX3d)
Fun Size Jane has entered the chat.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2024 08:32 PM (W/lyH)
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Posted by: Eromero at December 01, 2024 08:29 PM (LHPAg)
Same here. I bought a back up of all my Glock models . Also bought hand gun companions to my PCC’s.
But I only shoot my carry gun and my PCCs.
Same here. I bought a back up of all my Glock models . Also bought hand gun companions to my PCC’s.
But I only shoot my carry gun and my PCCs.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 01, 2024 08:32 PM (D6PGr)
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Your collection, your rules. Buy what you want with the only caveat being don't risk the retirement fund.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 01, 2024 08:29 PM (/y8xj)
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Of course, just interested as to what people think.
I'd like to get a P.38 but do not want to pay the premium for a Hitler stamp.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 01, 2024 08:29 PM (/y8xj)
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Of course, just interested as to what people think.
I'd like to get a P.38 but do not want to pay the premium for a Hitler stamp.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 08:33 PM (ZOv7s)
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Yeah, blaster, I have seen those and am jealous. But for the price of a drone I get a spotter and an aerial surveillance tool. And lots of fun checking out my backwoods neighborhood.
Posted by: RI Red at December 01, 2024 08:33 PM (JjOQR)
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A blanket pardon or a cozy cave pardon?
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 08:33 PM (hovnC)
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Okay, a question for the group.
Hypothetically speaking, if one wanted to collect representative samples of, for example, WW II military sidearms, would the weapons in question have to be wartime production, or would post-war manufacture be acceptable?
What about replicas? Tisa has an arrangement with CMP to produce what they call "museum-grade" WW II 1911A1s that are specially marked by the CMP. Would that fill the 1911 niche? The idea is to have the "look and feel" rather than specific collector models.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 08:25 PM (ZOv7s)
For the serious, hard core collector community, the answer is "NO!!!" Pristine, original condition firearms command a premium. Replacement parts will knock the price down to the point that the hard core collectors will turn up their noses at such an example. But for casual collectors who aren't concerned about that stuff, replicas will fill the bill just fine. However, replicas have the potential to serve as jumping off points for fakers to create "originals" to be sold at premium prices. Colt has patented its markings and has gone after fakers to protect its brand, though.
Hypothetically speaking, if one wanted to collect representative samples of, for example, WW II military sidearms, would the weapons in question have to be wartime production, or would post-war manufacture be acceptable?
What about replicas? Tisa has an arrangement with CMP to produce what they call "museum-grade" WW II 1911A1s that are specially marked by the CMP. Would that fill the 1911 niche? The idea is to have the "look and feel" rather than specific collector models.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 08:25 PM (ZOv7s)
For the serious, hard core collector community, the answer is "NO!!!" Pristine, original condition firearms command a premium. Replacement parts will knock the price down to the point that the hard core collectors will turn up their noses at such an example. But for casual collectors who aren't concerned about that stuff, replicas will fill the bill just fine. However, replicas have the potential to serve as jumping off points for fakers to create "originals" to be sold at premium prices. Colt has patented its markings and has gone after fakers to protect its brand, though.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 08:33 PM (AiJK3)
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Well, at least he didn't replace it with a footlong hot dog. Although, FSJ might have liked it, if he understood.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 08:26 PM (VNX3d)
Fun Size Jane has entered the chat.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2024 08:32 PM (W/lyH)
I was going for supersizing it, not hiding it.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 08:26 PM (VNX3d)
Fun Size Jane has entered the chat.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2024 08:32 PM (W/lyH)
I was going for supersizing it, not hiding it.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 08:33 PM (VNX3d)
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A blanket pardon or a cozy cave pardon?
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 08:33 PM (hovnC)
Blanket. All Charles from 2014 to 2024.
Someone needs to find a charge that goes back to 2013.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 08:33 PM (hovnC)
Blanket. All Charles from 2014 to 2024.
Someone needs to find a charge that goes back to 2013.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 01, 2024 08:35 PM (D6PGr)
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n gun news, Hunter Biden was pardoned by Joe for his gun charge convictions.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth
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This is wonderful.
So much for "Rule of Law!"
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
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And the tax evasion.
Feel better now?
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth
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This is wonderful.
So much for "Rule of Law!"
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
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And the tax evasion.
Feel better now?
Posted by: buddhaha at December 01, 2024 08:35 PM (apXry)
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Uhh, say what now????
@LucasFoxNews 30m
After pardoning Hunter, President Biden will depart for Africa tonight.
@LucasFoxNews 30m
After pardoning Hunter, President Biden will depart for Africa tonight.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 01, 2024 08:36 PM (IG4Id)
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I can’t even describe how much I hate autocorrect.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 01, 2024 08:36 PM (D6PGr)
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For the serious, hard core collector community, the answer is "NO!!!" Pristine, original condition firearms command a premium.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 08:33 PM (AiJK3)
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Yeah, I buy guns to shoot them, not stare at them. My Mauser C96 was rebuilt out of spare parts and what I could scrounge on the internet. Also had a bore liner put in. Authentic? Don't make me laugh, but it's a great shooter and you can use it without guilt.
I don't collect with an eye to selling, only having for a while.
Which is smart, considering how many disastrous canoe trips I've had.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 08:33 PM (AiJK3)
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Yeah, I buy guns to shoot them, not stare at them. My Mauser C96 was rebuilt out of spare parts and what I could scrounge on the internet. Also had a bore liner put in. Authentic? Don't make me laugh, but it's a great shooter and you can use it without guilt.
I don't collect with an eye to selling, only having for a while.
Which is smart, considering how many disastrous canoe trips I've had.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 08:37 PM (ZOv7s)
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Oh, and having a Gub and not shooting it?
I am not a collector.
It’s like having a [no-no square] and not using it.
Wait. I’ve been married 50 years.
Forget everything after “Oh”.
I am not a collector.
It’s like having a [no-no square] and not using it.
Wait. I’ve been married 50 years.
Forget everything after “Oh”.
Posted by: RI Red at December 01, 2024 08:37 PM (JjOQR)
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I have three guns and have yet to fire any of them.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm
Well, New Year is coming up!
Just kidding. Only people I have seen do that used muzzle loaders with no lead. So, sort of responsible.
What goes up will come down.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm
Well, New Year is coming up!
Just kidding. Only people I have seen do that used muzzle loaders with no lead. So, sort of responsible.
What goes up will come down.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2024 08:38 PM (/lPRQ)
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I guess this is the coke and stripper thread?
Posted by: gKWVE at December 01, 2024 08:38 PM (gKWVE)
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Just the 2' according to the football announcers and not the 60" I've read for areas further west on both sides of the border
Don't follow the NFL much anymore but another Snowmageddon might have been fun to see.
Don't follow the NFL much anymore but another Snowmageddon might have been fun to see.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 01, 2024 08:39 PM (mH6SG)
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And the tax evasion.
Feel better now?
Posted by: buddhaha at December 01, 2024 08:35 PM (apXry)
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You can't pardon future crimes. He's an addict and a menace.
But I don't really care because judgement is still coming for him, and thinking in secular legal terms won't help him then.
Feel better now?
Posted by: buddhaha at December 01, 2024 08:35 PM (apXry)
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You can't pardon future crimes. He's an addict and a menace.
But I don't really care because judgement is still coming for him, and thinking in secular legal terms won't help him then.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 08:39 PM (ZOv7s)
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202 I hope the Buffalo and other Western NY morons and ettes are okay with the lake-effect snowfall. Just the 2' according to the football announcers and not the 60" I've read for areas further west on both sides of the border. [Not a flake in Toronto BTW. The sweet spot between the several Great Lakes and Georgian Bay holds true.]
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 08:31 PM (hovnC)
***knocks wood***
I'm clean and green just a few miles north of center city.
The lake, being open and warm, is in snow machine mode right now.
May the winds blow towards ski country all winter ...
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 08:31 PM (hovnC)
***knocks wood***
I'm clean and green just a few miles north of center city.
The lake, being open and warm, is in snow machine mode right now.
May the winds blow towards ski country all winter ...
Posted by: browndog in shorts at December 01, 2024 08:40 PM (TTAGa)
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I'd like to get a P.38 but do not want to pay the premium for a Hitler stamp.
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And I'm sure the gasoline bills for flying it would be huge! Still, pretty to look at especially with good nosecone art -- Weasel's Wonders perhaps?
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And I'm sure the gasoline bills for flying it would be huge! Still, pretty to look at especially with good nosecone art -- Weasel's Wonders perhaps?
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 08:40 PM (hovnC)
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Hypothetically speaking, if one wanted to collect representative samples of, for example, WW II military sidearms, would the weapons in question have to be wartime production, or would post-war manufacture be acceptable?
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Best I can do is 50 bucks.
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Best I can do is 50 bucks.
Posted by: Rick at December 01, 2024 08:41 PM (hovnC)
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I was going to purchase the S&W folding PCC but I’d have to buy the M&P pistol to go with it because of my PCC OCD. I have been able to resist so far.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 01, 2024 08:41 PM (D6PGr)
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Well, at least he didn't replace it with a footlong hot dog. Although, FSJ might have liked it, if he understood.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN!
Asian style, paste an eggplant over it.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN!
Asian style, paste an eggplant over it.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2024 08:43 PM (/lPRQ)
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Somewhere in the top 250 or so?
No range time but annual meeting of the range directors and the folks who organize the various training and competition programs. Almost got a long range rig at the swap meet but someone else beat me to it.
Thank you Weasel and best wishes for a great week ahead to the Horde
No range time but annual meeting of the range directors and the folks who organize the various training and competition programs. Almost got a long range rig at the swap meet but someone else beat me to it.
Thank you Weasel and best wishes for a great week ahead to the Horde
Posted by: Coelacanth at December 01, 2024 08:45 PM (4AI6f)
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Don't follow the NFL much anymore but another Snowmageddon might have been fun to see.
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They should borrow a Zamboni from the Sabres!
I'm glad you're okay, browndog.
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They should borrow a Zamboni from the Sabres!
I'm glad you're okay, browndog.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 08:45 PM (hovnC)
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One thing I have never done after purchasing a new firearm is to shoot it right out of the box. A field strip and inspection, then back to the range.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 01, 2024 08:46 PM (mH6SG)
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Sebastian, let the force flow through you. Give in.
You’ll be glad you did.
I had an S&W pistol (that I traded a Beretta 93 for with my son). But it did not weigh heavily in my decision. The magazine compatibility is nice, though.
And the FPC is just fun to shoot. Goes through 9 mm ammo just like shooting .22!
You’ll be glad you did.
I had an S&W pistol (that I traded a Beretta 93 for with my son). But it did not weigh heavily in my decision. The magazine compatibility is nice, though.
And the FPC is just fun to shoot. Goes through 9 mm ammo just like shooting .22!
Posted by: RI Red at December 01, 2024 08:46 PM (JjOQR)
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If you can do that best by standing on your head and shooting weak handed
Added advantage in a self-defense situation is the perp will be so busy trying to figure out WHAT IN THE BLUE BLAZES you are doing, you'll get your first couple of shots off unimpeded.
Howdy, Horde.
As has been mentioned here before, I actually find a bladed, one-handed stance to work for me, since I am trained in fencing and in some martial arts.
But, for self defense, I find a crouch will get you stable in almost all situations, as you tend to get your feet about shoulder width and to get your weight over the balls of your feet. Not a deep crouch, but (crazily enough) the sort you see in old b&w westerns, with bent knees and a little forward lean. And that is true for bladed or square-on stances.
Added advantage in a self-defense situation is the perp will be so busy trying to figure out WHAT IN THE BLUE BLAZES you are doing, you'll get your first couple of shots off unimpeded.
Howdy, Horde.
As has been mentioned here before, I actually find a bladed, one-handed stance to work for me, since I am trained in fencing and in some martial arts.
But, for self defense, I find a crouch will get you stable in almost all situations, as you tend to get your feet about shoulder width and to get your weight over the balls of your feet. Not a deep crouch, but (crazily enough) the sort you see in old b&w westerns, with bent knees and a little forward lean. And that is true for bladed or square-on stances.
Posted by: GWB at December 01, 2024 08:47 PM (GR9H0)
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One more on the never fired list. 1873 Winchester .22 short (I have a love for the old levers). Sort of a rare set up. Mine is a third model. I take it out to ogle, but in the 7 years I have owned it, never taken it to the range.
Posted by: scampydog at December 01, 2024 08:47 PM (41CYW)
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Somewhere in the top 250 or so?
No range time but annual meeting of the range directors and the folks who organize the various training and competition programs. Almost got a long range rig at the swap meet but someone else beat me to it.
Thank you Weasel and best wishes for a great week ahead to the Horde
Posted by: Coelacanth at December 01, 2024 08:45 PM (4AI6f)
We are within 40 of the Food Thread, just for them as want goals to achieve...
No range time but annual meeting of the range directors and the folks who organize the various training and competition programs. Almost got a long range rig at the swap meet but someone else beat me to it.
Thank you Weasel and best wishes for a great week ahead to the Horde
Posted by: Coelacanth at December 01, 2024 08:45 PM (4AI6f)
We are within 40 of the Food Thread, just for them as want goals to achieve...
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 01, 2024 08:47 PM (v23vE)
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I would observe Boxing Day, except, I don't have any servants. Bidenomics compelled me to let them all go.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2024 08:48 PM (XeU6L)
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At one point, I saw videos about relatively large caliber airgun revolvers (.35-.38", using rubber sleeves? CO2). Unfortunately, I didn't bookmark them, and cannot remember the brand. Googling hasn't helped, either.
Has anyone seen or heard of a weapon like this? One of the companies that make them?
I'm in an apartment, and using a firearm for any purpose is immediate eviction. This might be a good option.
Has anyone seen or heard of a weapon like this? One of the companies that make them?
I'm in an apartment, and using a firearm for any purpose is immediate eviction. This might be a good option.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 08:48 PM (VNX3d)
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One thing I have never done after purchasing a new firearm is to shoot it right out of the box. A field strip and inspection, then back to the range.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 01, 2024 08:46 PM (mH6SG)
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When I was younger, I did that all the time. I buy so few NIB these days that it's not really an issue. The last one I got had no sights, just rail, so that had to be remedied before going to the range was even an option.
One of the joys of buying surplus is getting that first look down the bore after all the fouling and Cosmoline have been stripped out. Does it have rifling?!
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 01, 2024 08:46 PM (mH6SG)
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When I was younger, I did that all the time. I buy so few NIB these days that it's not really an issue. The last one I got had no sights, just rail, so that had to be remedied before going to the range was even an option.
One of the joys of buying surplus is getting that first look down the bore after all the fouling and Cosmoline have been stripped out. Does it have rifling?!
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 08:49 PM (ZOv7s)
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Reports are, there was some confusion with the Turkey Pardons and the Hunter Pardons.
The Turkeys are off the hook for any back taxes, but Hunter has to live out his days on a Wisconsin Turkey Farm.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
The Turkeys are off the hook for any back taxes, but Hunter has to live out his days on a Wisconsin Turkey Farm.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 01, 2024 08:50 PM (Xo+UM)
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I'd like to get a P.38 but do not want to pay the premium for a Hitler stamp.
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Hitler made a can opener?
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Hitler made a can opener?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2024 08:51 PM (XeU6L)
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If you go to ammo sites, .32 S&W Long is listed as identical to .32 Colt New Police.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
Yes on the "Colt New Police", but I think there is a defunct 32 Long Colt that used a heeled bullet (like a 22). So maybe a moot point...
Others were throwing out "Colt Long".
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
Yes on the "Colt New Police", but I think there is a defunct 32 Long Colt that used a heeled bullet (like a 22). So maybe a moot point...
Others were throwing out "Colt Long".
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2024 08:51 PM (/lPRQ)
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Reports are, there was some confusion with the Turkey Pardons and the Hunter Pardons.
The Turkeys are off the hook for any back taxes, but Hunter has to live out his days on a Wisconsin Turkey Farm.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 01, 2024 08:50 PM (Xo+UM)
Wouldn't that be a Somali Turkey Farm? That would explain Joey's flight to Africa.
The Turkeys are off the hook for any back taxes, but Hunter has to live out his days on a Wisconsin Turkey Farm.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 01, 2024 08:50 PM (Xo+UM)
Wouldn't that be a Somali Turkey Farm? That would explain Joey's flight to Africa.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 08:51 PM (VNX3d)
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I'm in an apartment, and using a firearm for any purpose is immediate eviction. This might be a good option.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 08:48 PM (VNX3d)
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How do they define "firearms?" Black powder weapons are generally exempt from firearms laws. Pepper spray is as well.
Maybe consider a crossbow (less bulky than a longbow).
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 08:48 PM (VNX3d)
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How do they define "firearms?" Black powder weapons are generally exempt from firearms laws. Pepper spray is as well.
Maybe consider a crossbow (less bulky than a longbow).
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 08:52 PM (ZOv7s)
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Hitler made a can opener?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2024 08:51 PM (XeU6L)
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In 9mm parabellum, if you can believe it.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2024 08:51 PM (XeU6L)
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In 9mm parabellum, if you can believe it.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 08:53 PM (ZOv7s)
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just about every episode I have watched
Yep. Almost every cop show (even the ones with decent technical advisors) has the cops with their finger on the trigger. Because that was actually the way they seem to have been trained back then. For those who say "I don't need no manual safety, because my trigger finger IS the safety," well, that's what they were doing.
Add in the propensity for most actors to simply be lazy with firearms, and it happens everywhere. (And, Alec Baldwin enters the chat....)
Yep. Almost every cop show (even the ones with decent technical advisors) has the cops with their finger on the trigger. Because that was actually the way they seem to have been trained back then. For those who say "I don't need no manual safety, because my trigger finger IS the safety," well, that's what they were doing.
Add in the propensity for most actors to simply be lazy with firearms, and it happens everywhere. (And, Alec Baldwin enters the chat....)
Posted by: GWB at December 01, 2024 08:53 PM (GR9H0)
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No disrespect intended for the gum-chewing lady but I had always felt that a final buyers inspection made sense. Ya never know what you might find.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 01, 2024 08:53 PM (mH6SG)
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Yes on the "Colt New Police", but I think there is a defunct 32 Long Colt that used a heeled bullet (like a 22). So maybe a moot point...
Others were throwing out "Colt Long".
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2024 08:51 PM (/lPRQ)
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Some of that stuff is really, really hard to find and very expensive. Not the sort of stuff you would stumble over by accident unless it was in the shoebox with great-grandpa's gun (and ammo that old is suspect anyway).
Others were throwing out "Colt Long".
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2024 08:51 PM (/lPRQ)
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Some of that stuff is really, really hard to find and very expensive. Not the sort of stuff you would stumble over by accident unless it was in the shoebox with great-grandpa's gun (and ammo that old is suspect anyway).
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 08:54 PM (ZOv7s)
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In 9mm parabellum, if you can believe it.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 08:53 PM (ZOv7s)
And they shoot just fine, too. Ask Nurse Ratched.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 08:53 PM (ZOv7s)
And they shoot just fine, too. Ask Nurse Ratched.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 08:55 PM (rsgN5)
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Pardon. Heh. The ultimate nepotism.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2024 08:55 PM (XeU6L)
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I'm in an apartment, and using a firearm for any purpose is immediate eviction. This might be a good option.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 08:48 PM (VNX3d)
Not to worry. The Venezuelans will be there soon.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 08:48 PM (VNX3d)
Not to worry. The Venezuelans will be there soon.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2024 08:57 PM (W/lyH)
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Yep. Almost every cop show (even the ones with decent technical advisors) has the cops with their finger on the trigger. Because that was actually the way they seem to have been trained back then. For those who say "I don't need no manual safety, because my trigger finger IS the safety," well, that's what they were doing.
Posted by: GWB at December 01, 2024 08:53 PM (GR9H0)
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I wonder if it was part of "being ready to shoot" combined with the fact that double-action triggers are pretty resistant to incidental pressure.
Posted by: GWB at December 01, 2024 08:53 PM (GR9H0)
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I wonder if it was part of "being ready to shoot" combined with the fact that double-action triggers are pretty resistant to incidental pressure.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 08:57 PM (ZOv7s)
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Some of that stuff is really, really hard to find and very expensive. Not the sort of stuff you would stumble over by accident unless it was in the shoebox with great-grandpa's gun (and ammo that old is suspect anyway).
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 08:54 PM (ZOv7s)
I would like to find a supply of recent-manufacture .32 S&W short for the little H&R. Bad, bad Leroy Brown carried one in his pocket for fun, don't you know?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 08:54 PM (ZOv7s)
I would like to find a supply of recent-manufacture .32 S&W short for the little H&R. Bad, bad Leroy Brown carried one in his pocket for fun, don't you know?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 08:57 PM (rsgN5)
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Pepper spray in a small apartment might be a room-clearer.
May want a mask, or at least goggles.
I mean, the other element is that eviction is better than being beaten or killed.
May want a mask, or at least goggles.
I mean, the other element is that eviction is better than being beaten or killed.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 08:59 PM (ZOv7s)
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And, nice to see the Weasel Dogs. Glad they're happy. 
Weasel, does the interwebs have the same sort of "How to clean a Glock" and "How to build a Glock" and "How to make a Glock into an illegal machine gun" videos as it does 1911 videos? Or do people just throw them in a drawer and forget about them?
Weasel, does the interwebs have the same sort of "How to clean a Glock" and "How to build a Glock" and "How to make a Glock into an illegal machine gun" videos as it does 1911 videos? Or do people just throw them in a drawer and forget about them?
Posted by: GWB at December 01, 2024 08:59 PM (GR9H0)
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185 174 162 Not a blanket pardon? Lots of crimes.
Posted by: davidt at December 01, 2024 08:15 PM (i0F8b)
It was a blanket pardon.
Posted by: Liberty at December 01, 2024 08:22 PM (wmcPi)
Does the blanket cover all the international graft/treason?
Posted by: davidt at December 01, 2024 08:25 PM (i0F8b)
Yes, if it was in the last 10 years.
Posted by: davidt at December 01, 2024 08:15 PM (i0F8b)
It was a blanket pardon.
Posted by: Liberty at December 01, 2024 08:22 PM (wmcPi)
Does the blanket cover all the international graft/treason?
Posted by: davidt at December 01, 2024 08:25 PM (i0F8b)
Yes, if it was in the last 10 years.
Posted by: Liberty at December 01, 2024 08:59 PM (wmcPi)
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English manufacturer Brocock had a line of air pistols with cartridges (BACS cartridges) but do not know extent of calibers etc available.
Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at December 01, 2024 09:00 PM (WvGHv)
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I would like to find a supply of recent-manufacture .32 S&W short for the little H&R. Bad, bad Leroy Brown carried one in his pocket for fun, don't you know?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 08:57 PM (rsgN5)
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Try ammoseek.com. I picked up a top-break for $100 and it's so cute and tiny. Definitely one-hand weapon. Okay 3/4 of a hand.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 08:57 PM (rsgN5)
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Try ammoseek.com. I picked up a top-break for $100 and it's so cute and tiny. Definitely one-hand weapon. Okay 3/4 of a hand.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:00 PM (ZOv7s)
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Does the blanket cover all the international graft/treason?
Posted by: davidt
Yes, if it was in the last 10 years.
Posted by: Liberty
Well, yes but not any actions brought by other countries - right?
Posted by: davidt
Yes, if it was in the last 10 years.
Posted by: Liberty
Well, yes but not any actions brought by other countries - right?
Posted by: Tonypete at December 01, 2024 09:01 PM (WXNFJ)
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I'm in an apartment, and using a firearm for any purpose is immediate eviction. This might be a good option.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 08:48 PM (VNX3d)
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How do they define "firearms?" Black powder weapons are generally exempt from firearms laws. Pepper spray is as well.
Maybe consider a crossbow (less bulky than a longbow).
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 08:52 PM (ZOv7s)
No definition that I can find. State law references the "use the energy of an explosive to expel a projectile through a smooth or rifled bore."
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 08:48 PM (VNX3d)
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How do they define "firearms?" Black powder weapons are generally exempt from firearms laws. Pepper spray is as well.
Maybe consider a crossbow (less bulky than a longbow).
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 08:52 PM (ZOv7s)
No definition that I can find. State law references the "use the energy of an explosive to expel a projectile through a smooth or rifled bore."
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 09:01 PM (VNX3d)
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Imma show how dumb I am by saying this, but...
I don't think stance is as important as sight alignment and trigger discipline and pull.
In a draw and shoot self defense situation, you probably won't have the opportunity to get your ideal stance. You may be on one knee, or going around a corner or under a table. If you get it set in your head that's the only way you can shoot, well, you're in doo doo.
I don't think stance is as important as sight alignment and trigger discipline and pull.
In a draw and shoot self defense situation, you probably won't have the opportunity to get your ideal stance. You may be on one knee, or going around a corner or under a table. If you get it set in your head that's the only way you can shoot, well, you're in doo doo.
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at December 01, 2024 09:01 PM (GhFyc)
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2024 09:01 PM (fghTy)
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Wouldn't that be a Somali Turkey Farm? That would explain Joey's flight to Africa.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 08:51 PM (VNX3d)
Gawd I hated that place.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 08:51 PM (VNX3d)
Gawd I hated that place.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2024 09:01 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at December 01, 2024 09:01 PM (GhFyc)
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Gawd I hated that place.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2024 09:01 PM (W/lyH)
I certainly did not mean to bring up bad/horrible/terrifying memories.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2024 09:01 PM (W/lyH)
I certainly did not mean to bring up bad/horrible/terrifying memories.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 09:03 PM (VNX3d)
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OK, so I played the entirety of This Is Not A Test, and I still need to know -- what was in Clint's suitcase?
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Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at December 01, 2024 09:01 PM (GhFyc)
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That's where I was going with the standing on your head business.
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That's where I was going with the standing on your head business.
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2024 09:03 PM (fghTy)
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English manufacturer Brocock had a line of air pistols with cartridges (BACS cartridges) but do not know extent of calibers etc available.
Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at December 01, 2024 09:00 PM (WvGHv)
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There was a thing where British air guns could be overcharged and get decent velocities. Naturally the Brits had to make themselves even more pathetic and weak.
Continental airguns may be better in that respect.
Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at December 01, 2024 09:00 PM (WvGHv)
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There was a thing where British air guns could be overcharged and get decent velocities. Naturally the Brits had to make themselves even more pathetic and weak.
Continental airguns may be better in that respect.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:03 PM (ZOv7s)
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Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 08:37 PM (ZOv7s)
Problem is that some people think the two are one and the same. If people get a replica of a historic firearm, they need to understand what it is and what it is not. Note that replicas are the only way to obtain some historic firearms without paying out five figures or more, such as the Thompson or BAR. Semi-auto replicas are a lot cheaper, don't have NFA paperwork problems, and have better parts availability. But even these might not come cheap. Ohio Ordinance's M1918A3 replica BAR comes in at a hefty $8k. Still, that's only about 10% the cost of the real deal.
Problem is that some people think the two are one and the same. If people get a replica of a historic firearm, they need to understand what it is and what it is not. Note that replicas are the only way to obtain some historic firearms without paying out five figures or more, such as the Thompson or BAR. Semi-auto replicas are a lot cheaper, don't have NFA paperwork problems, and have better parts availability. But even these might not come cheap. Ohio Ordinance's M1918A3 replica BAR comes in at a hefty $8k. Still, that's only about 10% the cost of the real deal.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 09:05 PM (AiJK3)
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Yes, if it was in the last 10 years.
Posted by: Liberty at December 01, 2024 08:59 PM (wmcPi)
It in fact covers through December 1 so he has about 3 hours to do whatever he wants Federal crime-wise.
Posted by: Liberty at December 01, 2024 08:59 PM (wmcPi)
It in fact covers through December 1 so he has about 3 hours to do whatever he wants Federal crime-wise.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 01, 2024 09:06 PM (QfvaV)
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I certainly did not mean to bring up bad/horrible/terrifying memories.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 09:03 PM (VNX3d)
No worries. Not my first war.
But the smell! Ughhh!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 09:03 PM (VNX3d)
No worries. Not my first war.
But the smell! Ughhh!
Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2024 09:06 PM (W/lyH)
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No definition that I can find. State law references the "use the energy of an explosive to expel a projectile through a smooth or rifled bore."
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 09:01 PM (VNX3d)
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Get a replica Colt Dragoon, which will not only look like something Dirty Harry would use, but serve as a useful bludgeon.
Touching that off in an apartment would be something else.
Hmmm....maybe don't do that.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 09:01 PM (VNX3d)
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Get a replica Colt Dragoon, which will not only look like something Dirty Harry would use, but serve as a useful bludgeon.
Touching that off in an apartment would be something else.
Hmmm....maybe don't do that.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:06 PM (ZOv7s)
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That's where I was going with the standing on your head business.
Posted by: Weasel
I told you I was dumb!
Posted by: Weasel
I told you I was dumb!
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at December 01, 2024 09:07 PM (TopPz)
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Well, yes but not any actions brought by other countries - right?
Posted by: Tonypete at December 01, 2024 09:01 PM (WXNFJ)
How does extradition work? Say Hunter nailed someone underaged in, I dunno, Romania. If Romania wants to indict him, do they have to send their own crew? what is Trump able to do to help?
Posted by: Tonypete at December 01, 2024 09:01 PM (WXNFJ)
How does extradition work? Say Hunter nailed someone underaged in, I dunno, Romania. If Romania wants to indict him, do they have to send their own crew? what is Trump able to do to help?
Posted by: gKWVE at December 01, 2024 09:07 PM (gKWVE)
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Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at December 01, 2024 09:07 PM (TopPz)
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You just care too much!
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You just care too much!
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2024 09:07 PM (fghTy)
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Note that replicas are the only way to obtain some historic firearms without paying out five figures or more, such as the Thompson or BAR. Semi-auto replicas are a lot cheaper, don't have NFA paperwork problems, and have better parts availability. But even these might not come cheap. Ohio Ordinance's M1918A3 replica BAR comes in at a hefty $8k. Still, that's only about 10% the cost of the real deal.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 09:05 PM (AiJK3)
My local freedom store has a Thompson full-auto .45ACP in their safe, and they let it out for members to shoot every now and again. It was fun to shoot.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 09:05 PM (AiJK3)
My local freedom store has a Thompson full-auto .45ACP in their safe, and they let it out for members to shoot every now and again. It was fun to shoot.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 01, 2024 09:07 PM (v23vE)
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Try ammoseek.com. I picked up a top-break for $100 and it's so cute and tiny. Definitely one-hand weapon. Okay 3/4 of a hand.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:00 PM (ZOv7s)
Aha! Thanks! Big K ammo has .32 S&W short, 50 rounds for $99. Not cheap. I have a couple of boxes of vintage ammo bought at gun shows. Have used very little, since the FTF issue is not fixed. Going to look at making the mainspring a little stronger.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:00 PM (ZOv7s)
Aha! Thanks! Big K ammo has .32 S&W short, 50 rounds for $99. Not cheap. I have a couple of boxes of vintage ammo bought at gun shows. Have used very little, since the FTF issue is not fixed. Going to look at making the mainspring a little stronger.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 09:08 PM (rsgN5)
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:08 PM (ZOv7s)
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It in fact covers through December 1 so he has about 3 hours to do whatever he wants Federal crime-wise.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 01, 2024 09:06 PM (QfvaV)
If you're gonna go out, go out with a bang ...
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 01, 2024 09:06 PM (QfvaV)
If you're gonna go out, go out with a bang ...
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 01, 2024 09:09 PM (v23vE)
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Ok, 9:12 thank you time!
Thank You!
Sure do appreciate all y'all being here tonight and hope to see you here next Sunday!!
Thank You!
Sure do appreciate all y'all being here tonight and hope to see you here next Sunday!!
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2024 09:12 PM (fghTy)
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Get a replica Colt Dragoon, which will not only look like something Dirty Harry would use, but serve as a useful bludgeon.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:06 PM (ZOv7s)
IIRC, Clint Eastwood wielded a pair in "The Outlaw Josey Wales." Having held one of these monsters in my hand, I can't see how you could back a brace of those, with one on each hip.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:06 PM (ZOv7s)
IIRC, Clint Eastwood wielded a pair in "The Outlaw Josey Wales." Having held one of these monsters in my hand, I can't see how you could back a brace of those, with one on each hip.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 09:12 PM (AiJK3)
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Problem is that some people think the two are one and the same. If people get a replica of a historic firearm, they need to understand what it is and what it is not.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 09:05 PM (AiJK3)
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Absolutely. I think replicas are useful for people who want to experience the thing without paying for the actual thing.
The other problem is that if you buy something authentic, every round you put through it lowers its value. Maybe have a "shooter" to go with your museum piece.
I like the idea of the CMP Tisas 1911A1 for that reason. I can shoot it without guilt but it does have the CMP provenance, which is nice. These are clearly designed to make up for the CMP running out of 1911s (at least for the time being).
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 09:05 PM (AiJK3)
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Absolutely. I think replicas are useful for people who want to experience the thing without paying for the actual thing.
The other problem is that if you buy something authentic, every round you put through it lowers its value. Maybe have a "shooter" to go with your museum piece.
I like the idea of the CMP Tisas 1911A1 for that reason. I can shoot it without guilt but it does have the CMP provenance, which is nice. These are clearly designed to make up for the CMP running out of 1911s (at least for the time being).
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:12 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 01, 2024 09:13 PM (mH6SG)
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Thanks for hosting, Weasel!
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 09:13 PM (AiJK3)
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Years ago there was a report that South Korea was prepared to 'repatriate" a million M1 Carbines.
Trump needs to make this happen. CMP sales will be lit.
Trump needs to make this happen. CMP sales will be lit.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:13 PM (ZOv7s)
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Thank You!
Sure do appreciate all y'all being here tonight and hope to see you here next Sunday!!
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2024 09:12 PM (fghTy)
Thank you for having us, Weasel!
Sure do appreciate all y'all being here tonight and hope to see you here next Sunday!!
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2024 09:12 PM (fghTy)
Thank you for having us, Weasel!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 09:13 PM (rsgN5)
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As always, thanks so much Weasel.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 01, 2024 09:15 PM (mH6SG)
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Thanks for another great Gub Thread, Weasel.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 01, 2024 09:15 PM (Wnv9h)
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How does extradition work? Say Hunter nailed someone underaged in, I dunno, Romania. If Romania wants to indict him, do they have to send their own crew? what is Trump able to do to help?
Posted by: gKWVE at December 01, 2024 09:07 PM (gKWVE)
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The pardoning power pertains to federal crimes, so if he did something in Romania, they can come after him.
I know some people are upset, but this is really amazing. Biden is basically admitting all this criminality through these pardons and giving Trump cover to do the same.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 01, 2024 09:07 PM (gKWVE)
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The pardoning power pertains to federal crimes, so if he did something in Romania, they can come after him.
I know some people are upset, but this is really amazing. Biden is basically admitting all this criminality through these pardons and giving Trump cover to do the same.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:15 PM (ZOv7s)
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My local freedom store has a Thompson full-auto .45ACP in their safe, and they let it out for members to shoot every now and again. It was fun to shoot.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 01, 2024 09:07 PM (v23vE)
Shooting a Thompson from the hip is easier than shooting it from the shoulder. The drop of the stock makes that thing want to climb like crazy when firing from the shoulder.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 01, 2024 09:07 PM (v23vE)
Shooting a Thompson from the hip is easier than shooting it from the shoulder. The drop of the stock makes that thing want to climb like crazy when firing from the shoulder.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 09:16 PM (AiJK3)
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marcopolo501c3.org has the report on the Laptop From Hell.
Business-related crimes include Romania.
Then there's a section on "non-consensual pornography" aaaaand I don't feel like reading more. At least the full report is linked through the PDF.
tldr Hunter Biden seems like he is not a fine fellow, not a fine fellow at all.
Business-related crimes include Romania.
Then there's a section on "non-consensual pornography" aaaaand I don't feel like reading more. At least the full report is linked through the PDF.
tldr Hunter Biden seems like he is not a fine fellow, not a fine fellow at all.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 01, 2024 09:16 PM (gKWVE)
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Thanks for the forum and hosting, Weasel.
Posted by: scampydog at December 01, 2024 09:16 PM (41CYW)
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Aha! Thanks! Big K ammo has .32 S&W short, 50 rounds for $99. Not cheap. I have a couple of boxes of vintage ammo bought at gun shows. Have used very little, since the FTF issue is not fixed. Going to look at making the mainspring a little stronger.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
You can still get new brass.
Have you considered loading your own?
Maybe get one of those Lee "Wack a Mole" loaders.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
You can still get new brass.
Have you considered loading your own?
Maybe get one of those Lee "Wack a Mole" loaders.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2024 09:17 PM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: Rooster Cogburn at December 01, 2024 09:17 PM (dg+HA)
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Get a replica Colt Dragoon, which will not only look like something Dirty Harry would use, but serve as a useful bludgeon.
My "Big List o' Crap That I Don't Need But Want Anyway" includes a replica Colt Walker.
My "Big List o' Crap That I Don't Need But Want Anyway" includes a replica Colt Walker.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 01, 2024 09:17 PM (/y8xj)
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Just got to drop in very late, but thanks for another Gub Thread, Weasel.
I also appreciate the client photos from the Chihuahua spa that you are operating!
I also appreciate the client photos from the Chihuahua spa that you are operating!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 01, 2024 09:17 PM (HlyYF)
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277 Ok, 9:12 thank you time!
Thank You!
Sure do appreciate all y'all being here tonight and hope to see you here next Sunday!!
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2024 09:12 PM (fghTy)
Thank you, Weasel. Looks like you're well clear of Buck's Food Thread, even after you delete the trolls.
Thank You!
Sure do appreciate all y'all being here tonight and hope to see you here next Sunday!!
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2024 09:12 PM (fghTy)
Thank you, Weasel. Looks like you're well clear of Buck's Food Thread, even after you delete the trolls.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 01, 2024 09:18 PM (v23vE)
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Shooting a Thompson from the hip is easier than shooting it from the shoulder. The drop of the stock makes that thing want to climb like crazy when firing from the shoulder.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 09:16 PM (AiJK3)
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A friend of mine got a semi-auto Thompson and it was pretty miserable. Very heavy, recoil was mild but the whole experience left us unsatisfied. He resolved to sell it for something more entertaining.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 09:16 PM (AiJK3)
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A friend of mine got a semi-auto Thompson and it was pretty miserable. Very heavy, recoil was mild but the whole experience left us unsatisfied. He resolved to sell it for something more entertaining.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:18 PM (ZOv7s)
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You can still get new brass.
Have you considered loading your own?
Maybe get one of those Lee "Wack a Mole" loaders.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2024 09:17 PM (/lPRQ)
I have diligently saved the expended brass.
Have you considered loading your own?
Maybe get one of those Lee "Wack a Mole" loaders.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2024 09:17 PM (/lPRQ)
I have diligently saved the expended brass.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 09:19 PM (rsgN5)
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Shooting a Thompson from the hip is easier than shooting it from the shoulder. The drop of the stock makes that thing want to climb like crazy when firing from the shoulder.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 09:16 PM (AiJK3)
That is where my lifting regimen (h/t Starting Strength) paid off -- I was able to lean into it to (almost) control it enough to stay on the paper.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 09:16 PM (AiJK3)
That is where my lifting regimen (h/t Starting Strength) paid off -- I was able to lean into it to (almost) control it enough to stay on the paper.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 01, 2024 09:20 PM (v23vE)
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I've seen Baker rifle reproductions are almost all smoothbore for the reenactor market where they shoot them just on the reenacting battlefields for cost and ease of use for loading. So if you want an historically-accurate weapon, and literally accurate as a genuine rifle for use on the range, you have to get a replacement rifled barrel made for it.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 09:21 PM (hovnC)
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280 Do people clean Glocks?
I just occasionally rub a little dirt on mine.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 01, 2024 09:13 PM (mH6SG)
Dishwasher
I just occasionally rub a little dirt on mine.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 01, 2024 09:13 PM (mH6SG)
Dishwasher
Posted by: Eromero at December 01, 2024 09:21 PM (LHPAg)
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300!
Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 09:21 PM (IQ6Gq)
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My "Big List o' Crap That I Don't Need But Want Anyway" includes a replica Colt Walker.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 01, 2024 09:17 PM (/y8xj)
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Mine includes a Desert Eagle, the most useless handgun this side of a Taurus Judge but one I nevertheless want. I'm torn, though: combat matte black or gold tiger stripe?
Posted by: Oddbob at December 01, 2024 09:17 PM (/y8xj)
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Mine includes a Desert Eagle, the most useless handgun this side of a Taurus Judge but one I nevertheless want. I'm torn, though: combat matte black or gold tiger stripe?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:21 PM (ZOv7s)
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Bang.
Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 09:22 PM (IQ6Gq)
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I also appreciate the client photos from the Chihuahua spa that you are operating!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 01, 2024 09:17 PM (HlyYF)
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Ha! That's true!
Tomorrow they go to the vet to get toenail trims and Joe is due for a shot. He's quite the celebrity at the vet!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 01, 2024 09:17 PM (HlyYF)
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Ha! That's true!
Tomorrow they go to the vet to get toenail trims and Joe is due for a shot. He's quite the celebrity at the vet!
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2024 09:22 PM (fghTy)
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300 300!
Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 09:21 PM (IQ6Gq)
Clearly your shit is not wobbly, sir!
Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 09:21 PM (IQ6Gq)
Clearly your shit is not wobbly, sir!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 01, 2024 09:22 PM (v23vE)
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Biden is basically admitting all this criminality through these pardons and giving Trump cover to do the same.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:15 PM (ZOv7s)
In his pardon statement Biden claimed the prosecution of Hunter is politically motivated.
Trump can claim the same with the J6 victims.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:15 PM (ZOv7s)
In his pardon statement Biden claimed the prosecution of Hunter is politically motivated.
Trump can claim the same with the J6 victims.
Posted by: davidt at December 01, 2024 09:22 PM (i0F8b)
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A friend of mine got a semi-auto Thompson and it was pretty miserable. Very heavy, recoil was mild but the whole experience left us unsatisfied. He resolved to sell it for something more entertaining.
I had a buddy (RIP Tom) who had one and I likewise found it to be a less-than-desirable experience to shoot.
I had a buddy (RIP Tom) who had one and I likewise found it to be a less-than-desirable experience to shoot.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 01, 2024 09:22 PM (mH6SG)
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A friend of mine got a semi-auto Thompson and it was pretty miserable. Very heavy, recoil was mild but the whole experience left us unsatisfied. He resolved to sell it for something more entertaining.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:18 PM (ZOv7s)
I was given the opportunity to fir the real deal at a range. Target was a sponge plastic torso that looked like Duke Nukem. My instructions were: "fire off the whole drum, start at Duke's right hip, and let the gun climb through the center of mass". It worked just fine.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:18 PM (ZOv7s)
I was given the opportunity to fir the real deal at a range. Target was a sponge plastic torso that looked like Duke Nukem. My instructions were: "fire off the whole drum, start at Duke's right hip, and let the gun climb through the center of mass". It worked just fine.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 09:22 PM (rsgN5)
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I was given the opportunity to fir the real deal at a range. Target was a sponge plastic torso that looked like Duke Nukem. My instructions were: "fire off the whole drum, start at Duke's right hip, and let the gun climb through the center of mass". It worked just fine.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 09:22 PM (rsgN5)
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Full auto is very different. I mean, they call it the "giggle switch" for a reason.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 09:22 PM (rsgN5)
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Full auto is very different. I mean, they call it the "giggle switch" for a reason.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:24 PM (ZOv7s)
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What about the rest of the Biden extended family? Weren't many of them conduits for money from foreign influence-buyers, thus the quip about having to pay "half their salary" to Joe.
It would be lovely to watch all of them either have to get pardoned before January 20, or go on trial shortly thereafter!
My strategy if I was Trump would be a strict "no comment" policy for me and all Republicans, and let the Biden brain trust figure out whether to pardon the whole family or cut them adrift. Pretty ugly either way, but hey, they richly deserve it.
Oh, and put Hunter under oath as an un-indicted co-conspirator!
It would be lovely to watch all of them either have to get pardoned before January 20, or go on trial shortly thereafter!
My strategy if I was Trump would be a strict "no comment" policy for me and all Republicans, and let the Biden brain trust figure out whether to pardon the whole family or cut them adrift. Pretty ugly either way, but hey, they richly deserve it.
Oh, and put Hunter under oath as an un-indicted co-conspirator!
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at December 01, 2024 09:25 PM (gfztU)
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Weasel, just finished up the last 1911 vid. Thanks for the info. And the Weasel Dog roundup.
Posted by: RI Red at December 01, 2024 09:26 PM (JjOQR)
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Full auto is very different. I mean, they call it the "giggle switch" for a reason.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:24 PM (ZOv7s)
Can confirm. Still giggling as I write about it. And Morons are the best people! Who else would let a dummy like me play with a $40000 dollar museum piece?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:24 PM (ZOv7s)
Can confirm. Still giggling as I write about it. And Morons are the best people! Who else would let a dummy like me play with a $40000 dollar museum piece?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 09:26 PM (rsgN5)
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A friend of mine got a semi-auto Thompson and it was pretty miserable. Very heavy, recoil was mild but the whole experience left us unsatisfied. He resolved to sell it for something more entertaining.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
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I have one of those Auto Ord semi-autos. You are spot on about the weight and recoil. I do enjoy taking mine to the range.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
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I have one of those Auto Ord semi-autos. You are spot on about the weight and recoil. I do enjoy taking mine to the range.
Posted by: scampydog at December 01, 2024 09:27 PM (41CYW)
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I was given the opportunity to fir the real deal at a range. Target was a sponge plastic torso that looked like Duke Nukem. My instructions were: "fire off the whole drum, start at Duke's right hip, and let the gun climb through the center of mass". It worked just fine.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 09:22 PM (rsgN5)
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So in the two years I was away from this illustrious thread, I experience the joy of the M1 Garand. Sublime.
A semi-auto BAR with a bipod would be very entertaining. So much dakka.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 09:22 PM (rsgN5)
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So in the two years I was away from this illustrious thread, I experience the joy of the M1 Garand. Sublime.
A semi-auto BAR with a bipod would be very entertaining. So much dakka.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:27 PM (ZOv7s)
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When I focus and am deliberate (slower) I have success. When I get confident (go faster), yeah, not so much success.
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at December 01, 2024 07:11 PM (IQ6Gq)
Sounds like it's not yet muscle memory. Keep at it and it will be.
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at December 01, 2024 07:11 PM (IQ6Gq)
Sounds like it's not yet muscle memory. Keep at it and it will be.
Posted by: GWB at December 01, 2024 09:28 PM (GR9H0)
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201 Hypothetically speaking, if one wanted to collect representative samples of, for example, WW II military sidearms, would the weapons in question have to be wartime production, or would post-war manufacture be acceptable?
Ok, my feeling is that it would depend on your reason for collecting them. If you have the cash and hope for appreciation, originals. If you have the cash and simply want to hold them and appreciate the history, originals. If you don't want to spend large amounts and just want to know what they felt like, shoot them, and personally experience the mechanics, authentic type reproductions will do, except some aren't made as far as I know
Ok, my feeling is that it would depend on your reason for collecting them. If you have the cash and hope for appreciation, originals. If you have the cash and simply want to hold them and appreciate the history, originals. If you don't want to spend large amounts and just want to know what they felt like, shoot them, and personally experience the mechanics, authentic type reproductions will do, except some aren't made as far as I know
Posted by: azjaeger at December 01, 2024 09:28 PM (3/XaG)
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Can confirm. Still giggling as I write about it. And Morons are the best people! Who else would let a dummy like me play with a $40000 dollar museum piece?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 09:26 PM (rsgN5)
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I need to go to the Knob Creek machinegun shoot. We had it planned a few years ago but never quite worked out.
Maybe when I'm a grownup I can do it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 09:26 PM (rsgN5)
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I need to go to the Knob Creek machinegun shoot. We had it planned a few years ago but never quite worked out.
Maybe when I'm a grownup I can do it.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:28 PM (ZOv7s)
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Apache Junction. Have been kicking around the idea of maybe having an AZ MoMee on Inauguration Day. Gather a crowd in some hipster bar, and make ourselves obnoxious, in a friendly sort of way, Do the Trump dance!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Only about 160 mi+/- 10 mi depending on route. Do-able if the snow doesn't pile up.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Only about 160 mi+/- 10 mi depending on route. Do-able if the snow doesn't pile up.
Posted by: buddhaha at December 01, 2024 09:29 PM (apXry)
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I'm torn, though: combat matte black or gold tiger stripe?
Gotta be the gold tiger stripe. Walk into the range wearing a purple fedora with a matching hat band.
Gotta be the gold tiger stripe. Walk into the range wearing a purple fedora with a matching hat band.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 01, 2024 09:29 PM (/y8xj)
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Maybe when I'm a grownup I can do it.
I keep waiting for that momentous event but after 29+ years, I've never received official notification that I am in the club.
I keep waiting for that momentous event but after 29+ years, I've never received official notification that I am in the club.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 01, 2024 09:31 PM (mH6SG)
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Whatever happened to the "teacup" stance?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2024 07:12 PM (/lPRQ)
Do you mean the teapot stance?
https://shorturl.at/ir1Fv
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2024 07:12 PM (/lPRQ)
Do you mean the teapot stance?
https://shorturl.at/ir1Fv
Posted by: GWB at December 01, 2024 09:32 PM (GR9H0)
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Mine includes a Desert Eagle, the most useless handgun this side of a Taurus Judge but one I nevertheless want. I'm torn, though: combat matte black or gold tiger stripe?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:21 PM (ZOv7s)
sra blaster wants a Deagle. And if you are going to get one it should be .50 AE. And might as well be gold tiger stripe.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:21 PM (ZOv7s)
sra blaster wants a Deagle. And if you are going to get one it should be .50 AE. And might as well be gold tiger stripe.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 01, 2024 09:32 PM (QfvaV)
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If you don't want to spend large amounts and just want to know what they felt like, shoot them, and personally experience the mechanics, authentic type reproductions will do, except some aren't made as far as I know
Posted by: azjaeger at December 01, 2024 09:28 PM (3/XaG)
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That's where I'm at. For example, if collecting WW I service pistols, does a Nagant Revolver from 1921 not count? Why not? Same as the earlier ones, different marks, but it's the same thing!
The issue I'm running up against is that 1911s are insanely expensive, and there's a certain irony that one of the most common weapons is also the most expensive. It's crazy.
Posted by: azjaeger at December 01, 2024 09:28 PM (3/XaG)
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That's where I'm at. For example, if collecting WW I service pistols, does a Nagant Revolver from 1921 not count? Why not? Same as the earlier ones, different marks, but it's the same thing!
The issue I'm running up against is that 1911s are insanely expensive, and there's a certain irony that one of the most common weapons is also the most expensive. It's crazy.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:32 PM (ZOv7s)
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Gotta be the gold tiger stripe. Walk into the range wearing a purple fedora with a matching hat band.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 01, 2024 09:29 PM (/y8xj)
Careful! That's Professor Squirrel's turf.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 01, 2024 09:29 PM (/y8xj)
Careful! That's Professor Squirrel's turf.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 09:32 PM (rsgN5)
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Gotta be the gold tiger stripe. Walk into the range wearing a purple fedora with a matching hat band.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 01, 2024 09:29 PM (/y8xj)
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Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I've picked up a few at shows and discussed the importance of aesthetic in having one.
My friends laugh at me, but these are people who bought a CZ Orange and that horrific Thompson semi-auto. Who are they to judge?
Posted by: Oddbob at December 01, 2024 09:29 PM (/y8xj)
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Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I've picked up a few at shows and discussed the importance of aesthetic in having one.
My friends laugh at me, but these are people who bought a CZ Orange and that horrific Thompson semi-auto. Who are they to judge?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:34 PM (ZOv7s)
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A member at our range has a Thompson, he offered and I accepted. I shot about a dozen rounds in full auto, off the shoulder. I couldn't hit squat, I was all over the place. It was kind of a letdown, they look so cool!!
Posted by: ck at December 01, 2024 09:35 PM (nMOLw)
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Don't look now, but IMI 941 Jerichos are dirt cheap.
All of you Cowboy Bebop fans know why I want one.
All of you Cowboy Bebop fans know why I want one.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:35 PM (ZOv7s)
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I need to go to the Knob Creek machinegun shoot. We had it planned a few years ago but never quite worked out.
Maybe when I'm a grownup I can do it.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:28 PM (ZOv7s)
Too late. Knob Creek had its last machinegun shoot a couple of years ago. Owners/organizers were getting too old and tired to put the event together.
Maybe when I'm a grownup I can do it.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:28 PM (ZOv7s)
Too late. Knob Creek had its last machinegun shoot a couple of years ago. Owners/organizers were getting too old and tired to put the event together.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 09:36 PM (AiJK3)
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The 1800 Baker Rifle: Two (Very) Frequently Asked Questions
https://tinyurl.com/mukfks2j
20 minutes
By far the most oft asked question I get on the channel is where did I get my Baker rifle now it's time to answer that
question...
[He's had a real rifled one made]
https://tinyurl.com/mukfks2j
20 minutes
By far the most oft asked question I get on the channel is where did I get my Baker rifle now it's time to answer that
question...
[He's had a real rifled one made]
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 09:37 PM (hovnC)
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A member at our range has a Thompson, he offered and I accepted. I shot about a dozen rounds in full auto, off the shoulder. I couldn't hit squat, I was all over the place. It was kind of a letdown, they look so cool!!
Posted by: ck at December 01, 2024 09:35 PM (nMOLw)
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My "money is no object" Class 3 choice is a GAU-5, the Air Force's SCAR. These are out there, but very rare. As a retired Zoomie, I want.
A more likely option is something in 9mm. Cheap ammo, controllable, fun.
Posted by: ck at December 01, 2024 09:35 PM (nMOLw)
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My "money is no object" Class 3 choice is a GAU-5, the Air Force's SCAR. These are out there, but very rare. As a retired Zoomie, I want.
A more likely option is something in 9mm. Cheap ammo, controllable, fun.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:37 PM (ZOv7s)
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Too late. Knob Creek had its last machinegun shoot a couple of years ago. Owners/organizers were getting too old and tired to put the event together.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 09:36 PM (AiJK3)
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Another dream crushed.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 09:36 PM (AiJK3)
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Another dream crushed.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:38 PM (ZOv7s)
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TIme for clean up and getting ready for tomorrow am....thanks Weasel for the thread, look forward to hearing about how Girtie is welcomed at the vets...see the rest of you on the threads!
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at December 01, 2024 09:38 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: Oddbob at December 01, 2024 09:39 PM (/y8xj)
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Another dream crushed.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:38 PM (ZOv7s)
Try Battlefield Vegas instead. You can fire machineguns of all kinds to your hearts content as long as you can supply the $$.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:38 PM (ZOv7s)
Try Battlefield Vegas instead. You can fire machineguns of all kinds to your hearts content as long as you can supply the $$.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 09:40 PM (AiJK3)
Posted by: GWB at December 01, 2024 09:41 PM (GR9H0)
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When looking at Class 3, one has to consider the price of ownership. Yes, some of the older belt-fed options are pretty cheap, but what of the ammo?
Getting something in 9mm may not be as impressive, but you can ammo dump all day long. That's why the GAU-5 isn't totally insane, because once you get over the purchase price, shooting it will be not so bad.
Getting something in 9mm may not be as impressive, but you can ammo dump all day long. That's why the GAU-5 isn't totally insane, because once you get over the purchase price, shooting it will be not so bad.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:41 PM (ZOv7s)
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Mrs. E got to shoot an M4 full auto. Cost me a c-note but her grin was priceless. Range in Grand Junction.
Posted by: Eromero at December 01, 2024 09:42 PM (LHPAg)
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Try Battlefield Vegas instead. You can fire machineguns of all kinds to your hearts content as long as you can supply the $$.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 09:40 PM (AiJK3)
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Yeah, but Knob Creek was a reasonable drive and also adjacent to the Bourbon Trail.
Oh well, God will provide!
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 09:40 PM (AiJK3)
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Yeah, but Knob Creek was a reasonable drive and also adjacent to the Bourbon Trail.
Oh well, God will provide!
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:42 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:43 PM (ZOv7s)
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91 It's a full clemency for every action ever taken by hunter from 2014 to 2025.
since it's no longer possible for him to incriminate himself, can he be compelled to testify?
since it's no longer possible for him to incriminate himself, can he be compelled to testify?
Posted by: anachronda at December 01, 2024 09:44 PM (edU/H)
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Wasn't that little cocksucker Hunter brought up on gun charges? How did he escape that?
Cadaver Joe should just step down.
Let's just allow Kamala to be president for a day or two, and forever let Hillary burn in hell because she's an evil cunt.
Cadaver Joe should just step down.
Let's just allow Kamala to be president for a day or two, and forever let Hillary burn in hell because she's an evil cunt.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 01, 2024 09:45 PM (9zwan)
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since it's no longer possible for him to incriminate himself, can he be compelled to testify?
Posted by: anachronda at December 01, 2024 09:44 PM (edU/H)
Technically yes.
Narrator: he will not be compelled to testify.
Posted by: anachronda at December 01, 2024 09:44 PM (edU/H)
Technically yes.
Narrator: he will not be compelled to testify.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 01, 2024 09:45 PM (QfvaV)
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Thanks Horde and thanks Weasel. Always fun. Best wishes to all but especially those in cold climates. Brrrr...
Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 09:46 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Technically yes.
Narrator: he will not be compelled to testify.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat
The "lawyers/shysters" will find a creative loophole!
Narrator: he will not be compelled to testify.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat
The "lawyers/shysters" will find a creative loophole!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at December 01, 2024 09:47 PM (hOUT3)
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>>> 282 Years ago there was a report that South Korea was prepared to 'repatriate" a million M1 Carbines.
Trump needs to make this happen. CMP sales will be lit.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:13 PM (ZOv7s)
After my move from CO, I am about 8 or 9 hours from the Anniston AL shop...
Trump needs to make this happen. CMP sales will be lit.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:13 PM (ZOv7s)
After my move from CO, I am about 8 or 9 hours from the Anniston AL shop...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 01, 2024 09:48 PM (KcwUg)
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Technically yes.
Narrator: he will not be compelled to testify.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 01, 2024 09:45 PM (QfvaV)
Hunter is not going to transform into a saint. He will continue his criminal lifestyle, because it's all he knows. Wait until he commits some other crime, arrest him, and promise him a plea deal if he spills the beans on the rest of the Biden Crime family.
Narrator: he will not be compelled to testify.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 01, 2024 09:45 PM (QfvaV)
Hunter is not going to transform into a saint. He will continue his criminal lifestyle, because it's all he knows. Wait until he commits some other crime, arrest him, and promise him a plea deal if he spills the beans on the rest of the Biden Crime family.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 09:48 PM (rsgN5)
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since it's no longer possible for him to incriminate himself, can he be compelled to testify?
Posted by: anachronda at December 01, 2024 09:44 PM (edU/H)
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I believe this is like when one gets immunity - without danger of self-incrimination, there is no right to withhold testimony.
Of course, Hunter could commit new crimes, which would be outside the scope of the pardon.
Posted by: anachronda at December 01, 2024 09:44 PM (edU/H)
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I believe this is like when one gets immunity - without danger of self-incrimination, there is no right to withhold testimony.
Of course, Hunter could commit new crimes, which would be outside the scope of the pardon.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:48 PM (ZOv7s)
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342 Thanks Horde and thanks Weasel. Always fun. Best wishes to all but especially those in cold climates. Brrrr...
Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 09:46 PM (IQ6Gq)
Seriously. 19° yesterday morning here. Was not ready for that.
Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 09:46 PM (IQ6Gq)
Seriously. 19° yesterday morning here. Was not ready for that.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 01, 2024 09:49 PM (v23vE)
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I mean...
RV or Class 3? I know which I'd choose.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:43 PM (ZOv7s)
RV's depreciate in value over time. Class 3 will appreciate in value over time.
RV or Class 3? I know which I'd choose.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:43 PM (ZOv7s)
RV's depreciate in value over time. Class 3 will appreciate in value over time.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 09:49 PM (AiJK3)
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at December 01, 2024 09:50 PM (/3Exi)
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Thanks, Weasel, and all the commenters for a fine post-holiday Gub Thread!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 01, 2024 09:50 PM (v23vE)
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It's a full clemency for every action ever taken by hunter from 2014 to 2025.
since it's no longer possible for him to incriminate himself, can he be compelled to testify?
Posted by: anachronda
Perjury Trap waiting to be sprung.
Ukraine, "anonymous" buyers dropped $10s of thousands on his 'art'...the greatest tell-all book just waiting to be told.
since it's no longer possible for him to incriminate himself, can he be compelled to testify?
Posted by: anachronda
Perjury Trap waiting to be sprung.
Ukraine, "anonymous" buyers dropped $10s of thousands on his 'art'...the greatest tell-all book just waiting to be told.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2024 09:51 PM (/lPRQ)
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Hunter is not going to transform into a saint. He will continue his criminal lifestyle, because it's all he knows. Wait until he commits some other crime, arrest him, and promise him a plea deal if he spills the beans on the rest of the Biden Crime family.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 09:48 PM (rsgN5)
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The media spinning this as "but he's already been pardoned!" is going to be funny.
"Why can't you let this criminal get off scott free?!"
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 09:48 PM (rsgN5)
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The media spinning this as "but he's already been pardoned!" is going to be funny.
"Why can't you let this criminal get off scott free?!"
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:51 PM (ZOv7s)
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RV's depreciate in value over time. Class 3 will appreciate in value over time.
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 09:49 PM (AiJK3)
If you have a Class III, you can always get an RV...
Posted by: Ed L at December 01, 2024 09:49 PM (AiJK3)
If you have a Class III, you can always get an RV...
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 09:52 PM (rsgN5)
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347 Seriously. 19° yesterday morning here. Was not ready for that.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 01, 2024 09:49 PM
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Maybe we should be talking flamethrowers on this thread too...for snow removal purposes (of course).
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 01, 2024 09:49 PM
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Maybe we should be talking flamethrowers on this thread too...for snow removal purposes (of course).
Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 09:53 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Okay, it' getting late. Thanks again, Weasel!
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2024 09:53 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 09:53 PM (hovnC)
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And it's easy to clean solvent and lube off of them.
Posted by: JTB at December 01, 2024 07:33 PM (yTvNw)
You're supposed to clean your cleaning mats?!
Posted by: JTB at December 01, 2024 07:33 PM (yTvNw)
You're supposed to clean your cleaning mats?!
Posted by: GWB at December 01, 2024 09:54 PM (GR9H0)
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This isn't a pardon for Hunter from Joey it's a pardon from Joey to Joey.
This isn't a pardon for Hunter from Joey it's a pardon from Joey to Joey.
Posted by: Auspex at December 01, 2024 09:54 PM (j4U/Z)
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Maybe we should be talking flamethrowers on this thread too...for snow removal purposes (of course).
Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 09:53 PM (IQ6Gq)
Fire is surprisingly ineffective for melting snow. It just does not happen instantly. A steam wand would be much, much better.
Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 09:53 PM (IQ6Gq)
Fire is surprisingly ineffective for melting snow. It just does not happen instantly. A steam wand would be much, much better.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 09:55 PM (rsgN5)
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357 You're supposed to clean your cleaning mats?!
Posted by: GWB at December 01, 2024 09:54 PM (GR9H0)
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Video coming in the content next week, no doubt.
Posted by: GWB at December 01, 2024 09:54 PM (GR9H0)
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Video coming in the content next week, no doubt.
Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 09:56 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Gun related post. The good news is that you can get a pardon for lying on a 4473... if your name is Hunter Biden.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at December 01, 2024 09:56 PM (Da7Vv)
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Maybe we should be talking flamethrowers on this thread too...for snow removal purposes (of course).
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Shotguns loaded with rock salt.
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Shotguns loaded with rock salt.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 09:57 PM (hovnC)
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359 Fire is surprisingly ineffective for melting snow. It just does not happen instantly. A steam wand would be much, much better.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 09:55 PM
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Ok but AND, not OR.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 09:55 PM
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Ok but AND, not OR.
Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 09:57 PM (IQ6Gq)
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AOP,
Steam wand? Only ones I see are for expresso machines.
Steam wand? Only ones I see are for expresso machines.
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at December 01, 2024 09:57 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Do people clean Glocks?
Posted by: Weasel
I've had people tell me they were going to clean my glock.
Do people clean Glocks?
Posted by: Weasel
I've had people tell me they were going to clean my glock.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 01, 2024 09:58 PM (63Dwl)
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Class IIIs will appreciate in value, until they're made legal to produce, once more.
Though I doubt we'll see a full repeal of NFA '34, we're likely to see suppressors "off the list" in the visible future.
What is likely with Class III, is they'll repeal that "act" (i forget it's name) which prohibited the manufacture of NEW Class III items.
Before which time, an average Class III item such as a Ruger Mini 14 would retail for +/- 3x the retail of it's semi-auto counterpart.
Gonna be a whole lotta collectors crying major tears, should that one come to pass.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Though I doubt we'll see a full repeal of NFA '34, we're likely to see suppressors "off the list" in the visible future.
What is likely with Class III, is they'll repeal that "act" (i forget it's name) which prohibited the manufacture of NEW Class III items.
Before which time, an average Class III item such as a Ruger Mini 14 would retail for +/- 3x the retail of it's semi-auto counterpart.
Gonna be a whole lotta collectors crying major tears, should that one come to pass.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 01, 2024 09:59 PM (Xo+UM)
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I Pardon my son Hunter for all the crimes Trump did. Trump lied about the laptop, lied about us taking Commie money, lied about me lying, etc.....
Anyway, I am FUCKING out of here to go and Fuck Off in Africa at your expense for two weeks...
I would take Kami but I cannot stand her Cackle either.
Love ,
Joey, Jill, and Hunter...
Anyway, I am FUCKING out of here to go and Fuck Off in Africa at your expense for two weeks...
I would take Kami but I cannot stand her Cackle either.
Love ,
Joey, Jill, and Hunter...
Posted by: Joe Biden at December 01, 2024 10:01 PM (wP83F)
368
ONT nood
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 01, 2024 10:02 PM (v23vE)
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Joe is going to visit Angola.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 01, 2024 10:02 PM (63Dwl)
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Steam wand? Only ones I see are for expresso machines.
Steam cleaner. But it's a large, loud, smelly (kerosene burning) hunk of machinery.
Steam cleaner. But it's a large, loud, smelly (kerosene burning) hunk of machinery.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 01, 2024 10:02 PM (/y8xj)
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I don't know that the President can legally pardon someone else for "Whatever".
Like, if I were to embezzle phat$taxx! from my employer and also shoplift from the local ValuRite, and I get caught doing the latter, legally Biden could pardon me from the theft charge, but not from the embezzlement if I'd not been charged for that.
Seems like a... precedent. If that holds up. And not one that should be a precedent.
Like, if I were to embezzle phat$taxx! from my employer and also shoplift from the local ValuRite, and I get caught doing the latter, legally Biden could pardon me from the theft charge, but not from the embezzlement if I'd not been charged for that.
Seems like a... precedent. If that holds up. And not one that should be a precedent.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 01, 2024 10:02 PM (gKWVE)
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AOP,
Steam wand? Only ones I see are for expresso machines.
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at December 01, 2024 09:57 PM (IQ6Gq)
When I was a much younger Peon, I bought a Clayton Steamin Demon steam cleaner. Had a kerosene-fired boiler, and electric pumps. Plug it into an AC outlet, fill the fuel tank, and provide a water supply from a garden hose. Had a long steam hose with a wand on it. The wand delivered a jet of high-pressure steam that was quite invisible, but soon condensed into a cloud of fog, especially in the humid air around Vancouver. But it would clean the grease and oil off a car undercarriage like a white tornado, if I could see what I was directing it at. The steam jet would cut concrete, LOL.
Steam wand? Only ones I see are for expresso machines.
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at December 01, 2024 09:57 PM (IQ6Gq)
When I was a much younger Peon, I bought a Clayton Steamin Demon steam cleaner. Had a kerosene-fired boiler, and electric pumps. Plug it into an AC outlet, fill the fuel tank, and provide a water supply from a garden hose. Had a long steam hose with a wand on it. The wand delivered a jet of high-pressure steam that was quite invisible, but soon condensed into a cloud of fog, especially in the humid air around Vancouver. But it would clean the grease and oil off a car undercarriage like a white tornado, if I could see what I was directing it at. The steam jet would cut concrete, LOL.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 10:03 PM (rsgN5)
373
What's up with Manfred, man?
Posted by: GWB at December 01, 2024 10:04 PM (GR9H0)
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I don't know that the President can legally pardon someone else for "Whatever".
I think this falls under the "Try 'n' stop me, Jack!" legal theory.
I think this falls under the "Try 'n' stop me, Jack!" legal theory.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 01, 2024 10:06 PM (/y8xj)
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 10:06 PM (hovnC)
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It being TX, there is a billboard near the Galeria advertising full auto fire at a Houston gun range. Rates look reasonable, but Paying for the ammo... OUCH.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at December 01, 2024 10:06 PM (Da7Vv)
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No one mention the Pardon in the ONT -- just talk gubs!!!
Jape of the century!
That would require the kind of self-restraint that is usually not (by which I mean "never") in evidence around here.
Jape of the century!
That would require the kind of self-restraint that is usually not (by which I mean "never") in evidence around here.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 01, 2024 10:08 PM (/y8xj)
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That would require the kind of self-restraint that is usually not (by which I mean "never") in evidence around here.
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LMAO
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Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 01, 2024 10:12 PM (hovnC)
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Just keeping it family friendly.
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2024 08:12 PM (fghTy)
Without it, FSJ would have been a Blue Dog. And I'm pretty sure you don't have Democrats in your house.
Yeah, way late, but thanks, Weasel. Great stuff.
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2024 08:12 PM (fghTy)
Without it, FSJ would have been a Blue Dog. And I'm pretty sure you don't have Democrats in your house.
Yeah, way late, but thanks, Weasel. Great stuff.
Posted by: GWB at December 01, 2024 10:14 PM (GR9H0)
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I'm a lurker. Been shooting since I was 9, that's 48 years ago. Was rated expert on pistol and sharpshooter on m16 during my service years.
Currently enjoying my ar15 in 556 and my sniper rifle is a 204 with custom loads at 4200 fps. Still deadly with my 9mm 1911 Smith and Wesson. Love shooting just for fun, at targets in the gravel pit. Being a hunter all my life has blessed me with time spent with friends and family.
Currently enjoying my ar15 in 556 and my sniper rifle is a 204 with custom loads at 4200 fps. Still deadly with my 9mm 1911 Smith and Wesson. Love shooting just for fun, at targets in the gravel pit. Being a hunter all my life has blessed me with time spent with friends and family.
Posted by: Kamala's Throat at December 01, 2024 10:15 PM (ippI8)
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I've seen Baker rifle reproductions are almost all smoothbore for the reenactor market where they shoot them just on the reenacting battlefields for cost and ease of use for loading. So if you want an historically-accurate weapon, and literally accurate as a genuine rifle for use on the range, you have to get a replacement rifled barrel made for it.
I owned a Baker Rifle replica (.62). I also bought the replica sword bayonet and the belt buckle. The stock was European Walnut and I ordered a Getz match barrel for it. Excellent firearm. I even won a local BP match with it.
I owned a Baker Rifle replica (.62). I also bought the replica sword bayonet and the belt buckle. The stock was European Walnut and I ordered a Getz match barrel for it. Excellent firearm. I even won a local BP match with it.
Posted by: mrp at December 01, 2024 10:17 PM (rj6Yv)
382
Gawd I hated that place.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2024 09:01 PM (W/lyH)
I liked the little bay on the ocean at the airport. Place was great as long as you were not looking at the inland.
And being shot at sort of sucked.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2024 09:01 PM (W/lyH)
I liked the little bay on the ocean at the airport. Place was great as long as you were not looking at the inland.
And being shot at sort of sucked.
Posted by: Reforger at December 01, 2024 10:18 PM (xcIvR)
383
Late to the game (actually working)
But I did want to let you know that even in Commiefornia, there are still people fighting the good fight for the 2A!
I give you the "Gunslingers.com." They handle mostly auction firearms at their site, but they do have 2 stores that sell firearms and ammo. And there is the CRPA, the oldest and most active 2A organization in California.
Please check out both these sites.
Thank you
But I did want to let you know that even in Commiefornia, there are still people fighting the good fight for the 2A!
I give you the "Gunslingers.com." They handle mostly auction firearms at their site, but they do have 2 stores that sell firearms and ammo. And there is the CRPA, the oldest and most active 2A organization in California.
Please check out both these sites.
Thank you
Posted by: Nightwatch at December 01, 2024 11:10 PM (TDvv2)
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Oh, and just to be honest, I have received no monetary return for endorsing these two sites.
Posted by: Nightwatch at December 01, 2024 11:12 PM (TDvv2)
385
376 It being TX, there is a billboard near the Galeria advertising full auto fire at a Houston gun range. Rates look reasonable, but Paying for the ammo... OUCH.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at December 01, 2024 10:06 PM (Da7Vv)
Top Gun Range rents a number of handguns and rifles, including some full auto. I’ve looked at renting the Thompson, but haven’t done it yet. Their rates aren’t bad, and their ammo prices for the calibers I bought there are reasonable.
They’re on Beverly Hill, just outside the west 610 loop.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at December 01, 2024 10:06 PM (Da7Vv)
Top Gun Range rents a number of handguns and rifles, including some full auto. I’ve looked at renting the Thompson, but haven’t done it yet. Their rates aren’t bad, and their ammo prices for the calibers I bought there are reasonable.
They’re on Beverly Hill, just outside the west 610 loop.
Posted by: Advo at December 02, 2024 12:41 PM (jO4mz)
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