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Border Czar Nominee Tom Homan: "Resistance" Governors and Mayors Who Block Deportation Efforts Will Be Prosecuted for Harboring Illegal Aliens

Homan sees this issue with the proper amount of nuance, which is nearly none at all.

President-elect Donald Trump's border czar, Tom Homan, has issued a stark warning to sanctuary cities, stating their officials could face federal charges for obstructing immigration enforcement. The warning comes as Trump prepares to reinstate strict immigration policies and mass deportations.

Key Details:

Homan said federal law supersedes local sanctuary laws, and refusing to cooperate with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) could result in charges for obstruction and harboring illegal immigrants.

Homan plans to work with the next Attorney General, likely Pam Bondi, to determine if sanctuary city policies violate federal law.

Trump and Homan aim to prioritize deportations of individuals accused or convicted of crimes, with additional measures to cut federal funding for sanctuary jurisdictions.

Diving Deeper:

President-elect Donald Trump's border czar, Tom Homan, has signaled a hardline approach to sanctuary cities, warning local officials they could face prosecution for defying federal immigration laws. Speaking to Just the News, Homan emphasized that impeding federal enforcement or knowingly harboring illegal immigrants could result in criminal charges.

"Federal law trumps state and local law every time," Homan said, referring to sanctuary policies in cities like Los Angeles, which recently reaffirmed its status as a sanctuary city. He noted that refusing to transfer illegal immigrants in custody to ICE may constitute harboring, a violation of federal law.

Homan plans to seek an official opinion from the next Attorney General--Pam Bondi is currently the nominee--on whether such refusals warrant legal action. He is also advocating for broader measures, such as withholding federal funds from jurisdictions that adopt sanctuary policies.

"We've got to pull federal funding," Homan stated, arguing that sanctuary policies undermine public safety. He warned mayors and governors that failing to cooperate with federal immigration enforcement could jeopardize community safety and violate federal statutes.

Homan also addressed broader concerns, including the Biden administration's handling of unaccompanied minors and the loss of track of 30,000 migrant children. He pledged to prioritize efforts to locate these children, acknowledging the challenges but vowing to combat human trafficking and forced labor.

Looking ahead, Homan expressed hope that Mexico's government would cooperate in reinstating Trump's "Remain in Mexico" policy, which requires asylum seekers to await processing south of the U.S. border. However, he warned, "If [Mexico's president] doesn't, then you know President Trump's one bad-ass president."

This may be a bluff, a bit of saber-rattling.

We already know the public rejected the lawfare against Trump. Now, if Trump begins using legal process against #Resistance figures (who are legitimately breaking the law), we'll see if the public is against all use of prosecutorial power to settle political disputes, or only plainly rancid and corrupt uses of the power, as we saw in the five Trump prosecutions.

I think the public might just reject all attempts to prosecute political actors over political disputes, but we'll have to see.

There is little question, though, that these Sanctuary jurisdictions should have federal monies stripped from them, as Homan suggests. The federal government is paying blue cities a lot of money supposedly for "law enforcement;" if they won't enforce the law, that money should stop.

Obviously, the Biden tactic of using all federal funds (especially FEMA emergency funding) as a slush fund to send to blue cities to pay for illegals will end, immediately. If any of these Sanctuary zones want to continue giving illegals free health care and rent subsidies, they can steal that money from their own citizens/taxpayers for that purpose, and see if how their voters like it. It's always easier to tax someone far away to pay for something unpopular. Having to tax your own voters will be a heavier lift.

And, of course, if these cities and states declare themselves Sanctuary zones, then we all know where all the remaining illegals must be sent.

Meawhile, lefties and left-leaning corporate libertarians are warning Americans -- who have not seen much in wage gains for 40 years because of "outsourcing" most manufacturing to the third world while the US simultaneously imported a third-world workforce to do all the jobs in the US that couldn't be "outsourced" -- that the maids and gardeners they don't actually earn enough money to employ will now be more expensive.

Posted by: Ace at 02:21 PM




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1 st!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 25, 2024 02:21 PM (ZANHd)

2 Do it.

Arresting the governors who prefer illegals to their own citizens after an election where almost every blue enclave saw a hard shift to the right would be interesting.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 25, 2024 02:21 PM (GBKbO)

3 The Others have been summoned.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 25, 2024 02:22 PM (ZANHd)

4 Willowed:

394 Headlines from the Paper of Record, the Babylon Bee:

It’s Official: Trump Now Has Hottest Cabinet Of All Time

'The View' Ratings Soar After Introducing Ejection Seat For When Hosts Make Inaccurate Statements
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at November 25, 2024 02:21 PM (VNX3d)

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at November 25, 2024 02:22 PM (VNX3d)

5 Everyone nostalgic for the 1950s might not realize what that actually entails. https://t.co/enWhwz1koC

- Jason C (@jasonc_nc) November 24, 2024


Was this asshoe one of those whining about his avocado toast?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 25, 2024 02:22 PM (KcwUg)

6 I think the public might just reject all attempts to prosecute political actors over political disputes, but we'll have to see.

=======

I think the lesson of the rise of Trump is that the American people are largely sick of the criminality of the political class and asked an outsider to come in an clean things up.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 25, 2024 02:22 PM (GBKbO)

7 that the maids and gardeners they don't actually earn enough money to employ will now be more expensive.

"If we don't have slaves, who will pick the crops?"

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 25, 2024 02:22 PM (uxCna)

8

Axios style "journalism!"

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 25, 2024 02:22 PM (siRul)

9 HOMAN: 2028

Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2024 02:22 PM (z/jjr)

10 Meawhile, lefties and left-leaning corporate libertarians are warning Americans -- who have not seen much in wage gains for 40 years because of "outsourcing" most manufacturing to the third world while the US simultaneously imported a third-world workforce to do all the jobs in the US that couldn't be "outsourced" -- that the maids and gardeners they don't actually earn enough money to employ will now be more expensive.

=======

I mow my own lawn.

My rates are about to go up!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 25, 2024 02:23 PM (GBKbO)

11 Be good for stupid lefties to learn how to mow their grass and do some simple home repairs. Make vocational training great again.

Posted by: IC - Cope Harder, Liberals at November 25, 2024 02:23 PM (EmT/E)

12 Stop. It can't get any harder without risking an arterial blowout.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 25, 2024 02:23 PM (Aqu9a)

13 Its all posturing and virtue signalling, nothing will come of it.

I've definitely seen Emerald Robinson ask it, but of course OAN's not allowed to talk to KJP or anyone else remotely official.

She's allegedly an investigative reporter, where's her report on what is going on. Has she even tried? They all seem afraid to even look at it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 25, 2024 02:23 PM (RsS92)

14 What Mexico has done to accommodate this 4 year invasion is nothing less than an act of war, in my opinion. It should be dealt with harshly. Peacefully, but harshly.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 25, 2024 02:23 PM (xyuoi)

15 Reading this tells me one thing. Mr. Homan shouldn't be referred to as a Tsar or Czar, but as the Border Khan, sweeping all enemies before him.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at November 25, 2024 02:23 PM (VNX3d)

16 We already know the public rejected the lawfare against Trump. Now, if Trump begins using legal process against #Resistance figures (who are legitimately breaking the law), we'll see if the public is against all use of prosecutorial power to settle political disputes, or only plainly rancid and corrupt uses of the power, as we saw in the five Trump prosecutions.

The left/FNM claimed Trump was literal Hitler and was going to send millions of people to death camps.

I don't think non-leftists are going to care if a leftist mayor gets sent to jail for breaking the law.

The one caveat is you do have to show a clear crime unlike the crap the left went after Trump for

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2024 02:23 PM (oZhjI)

17 I'm getting sexually aroused. Can I vote for Trump again?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 25, 2024 02:23 PM (iFTx/)

18 According to X What's his name, the Denver mayor, drove away from an airport with a rental car he had not duly paid for.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at November 25, 2024 02:24 PM (kTd/k)

19 Are they going to suddenly discover states rights again? 😂

Posted by: Piper at November 25, 2024 02:24 PM (p4NUW)

20 Jason C is just a little metrosexual bitch isn't he?

Posted by: steevy at November 25, 2024 02:25 PM (YbbtK)

21 16 I don't think non-leftists are going to care if a leftist mayor gets sent to jail for breaking the law.

The one caveat is you do have to show a clear crime unlike the crap the left went after Trump for
Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2024 02:23 PM (oZhjI)

=======

All you have to do is highlight some murder by an illegal immigrant in the state/city under question that would have been prevented by working with ICE and the feds for deportation.

X will carry it further than NBC news will be able to blunt it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 25, 2024 02:25 PM (GBKbO)

22 The Denver mayor needs to rot in jail as long as any J6 defendant.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at November 25, 2024 02:25 PM (kTd/k)

23 Most of my lawn is mowed by cattle and in the future the rest will likely be mowed by sheeps.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 25, 2024 02:25 PM (KcwUg)

24 People keep talking about bluster, but I think that some people will have to go to jail before this is taken seriously.

Think about the economic impact of 50 million illegals. Housing, grocery inflation, auto insurance, theft and violent crime, and jobs are all impacted by this.

We a literally paying millions of Americans welfare, and meanwhile illegals can get free plane tickets, free housing, use our emergency rooms, and get $2,000 per month in food stamps while they take those jobs - and somehow this is good for the economy.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 25, 2024 02:25 PM (lTGtQ)

25 Why do these idiots keep using the same argument used for slavery as their flex? Honestly, just bless their little hearts.

Posted by: Piper at November 25, 2024 02:25 PM (p4NUW)

26 I love this guy!

Enjoying X tweets about how he would have been a killer Roman fighter based on physiognomy, heh.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 25, 2024 02:25 PM (Hkcdp)

27 This may be a bluff, a bit of saber-rattling.
____________________________

Never play poker with Tom Homan.

Posted by: Orson at November 25, 2024 02:26 PM (dIske)

28 I think the public might just reject all attempts to prosecute political actors over political disputes, but we'll have to see.

the population who suffers most from the influx of illegals will back these prosecutions 100%

I refer to the already established minority communities in the cities

Posted by: kallisto at November 25, 2024 02:26 PM (dCxaZ)

29 All you have to do is highlight some murder by an illegal immigrant in the state/city under question that would have been prevented by working with ICE and the feds for deportation.

The leftists are going to go from "if it saves one life..." to "it isn't fair to blame us for all the people murdered by our policies" so fast it will make your head swim

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2024 02:26 PM (oZhjI)

30 Has anyone memed Homan as Baron Harkonnen yet? I can't be the only one who sees the resemblance (and meme potential).

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 25, 2024 02:26 PM (B9Prs)

31 It.Moved.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 25, 2024 02:26 PM (aD39U)

32 We already know the public rejected the lawfare against Trump. Now, if Trump begins using legal process against #Resistance figures (who are legitimately breaking the law), we'll see if the public is against all use of prosecutorial power to settle political disputes, or only plainly rancid and corrupt uses of the power, as we saw in the five Trump prosecutions.

Its going to depend on who wins the publicity war to frame the efforts. If the left manages to convince people that its only Trump throwing a tantrum and looking for revenge by abusing power, then he's in trouble.

If the truth wins out, so that people perceive it as punishing abuse of power and making people pay the price for using the justice system to attack political enemies, then he'll be in good shape. The important thing is to never say its about vengeance or payback. Its not.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 25, 2024 02:26 PM (RsS92)

33 >>> 30 Has anyone memed Homan as Baron Harkonnen yet? I can't be the only one who sees the resemblance (and meme potential).
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 25, 2024 02:26 PM (B9Prs)

Seriously?

Way too skinny. Now, Governor Pritzker, maybe...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 25, 2024 02:27 PM (KcwUg)

34 Landscape crews come in every size, shape and color/race/ethnicity

I haven't seen any females though

Posted by: kallisto at November 25, 2024 02:27 PM (dCxaZ)

35 I will chortle if Denver's Mayor is perp walked in front of the cameras.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 25, 2024 02:27 PM (u82oZ)

36 Seriously?

Way too skinny. Now, Governor Pritzker, maybe...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 25, 2024 02:27 PM (KcwUg)

It's his face

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 25, 2024 02:27 PM (B9Prs)

37 Why do these idiots keep using the same argument used for slavery as their flex? Honestly, just bless their little hearts.

Old and busted: "who's gonna pick our cotton??"
New and hot: "who's gonna mow our lawn?"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 25, 2024 02:27 PM (RsS92)

38 >>Never play poker with Tom Homan.


When Chuck Norris sees Tom Homan walking down the sidewalk, he crosses to the other side of the street.

Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2024 02:28 PM (z/jjr)

39 Has anyone memed Homan as Baron Harkonnen yet? I can't be the only one who sees the resemblance (and meme potential).

Looks more like Colin Farrell's the Penguin to me.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2024 02:28 PM (oZhjI)

40 If Mike Ehrmantraut were a real person

Posted by: Uncledave at November 25, 2024 02:28 PM (E+1ea)

41 Way too skinny. Now, Governor Pritzker, maybe...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 25, 2024 02:27 PM (KcwUg)

He is the one who is fairly rotund, right?

Posted by: IC - Cope Harder, Liberals at November 25, 2024 02:28 PM (EmT/E)

42 I'm okay acting and *then* letting the public decide.

Bottom line is an apolitical observation long ago by brit lass wife - Republicans seem serious, Democrats seem like a joke. They always look disheveled and like they just got there. Republicans show up in suits and it FEELS like something heavy is going on.

This is from a *long* time ago and she was just talking as an outside observer which is what a lot of voters really are.

Well it has reared its head again now, watching clips of Homan vs clips of Harris.

So if you're gonna be serious, be serious. Prosecute if you must and don't let them stand in the way or they will steamroll you and the rest of this country out of sheer will.

Posted by: ... at November 25, 2024 02:28 PM (12v8J)

43
Hondurans have the roofing business covered. They can have it.

Posted by: Auspex at November 25, 2024 02:29 PM (j4U/Z)

44 Landscape crews come in every size, shape and color/race/ethnicity

A lot are hispanic around here, but not exclusively. quite a few are college age guys of various ethnicities from the region.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 25, 2024 02:29 PM (RsS92)

45 What is Homan's background?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at November 25, 2024 02:29 PM (kTd/k)

46 The arguments that deporting these illegals will have negative financial implications is kindergarten level stupidity. Or more likely, just outright lying. The long term impacts of supporting tens of millions of illiterate masses far outweighs the price I may have to pay for a fucking head of lettuce for crying out loud.


And the bottom line is that I can choose to not buy that head of lettuce, but I will not have the choice to not pay the increased social costs of supporting - through my taxes - these tens of millions of indigents. If I have to support people in need, I prefer them to be Americans. For crying out loud again.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 25, 2024 02:29 PM (xyuoi)

47 Yeah, the whole "who will clean your toilets" schtick, whether it's applied to routine home and child care, or repairs or whatever... it stinks of elitism and misunderstanding that is astonishing.

Will the cost of my landscraping to up? Only if I have to buy a new lawnmower*.


*I'm just kidding, I would never buy a house that has a lawn. Now, I'm prolly going to pay someone to uproot the ugly bushes on the property, but once the cacti and pines are planted, it'll just be little ol' me doing the work. As do most homeowners.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2024 02:29 PM (dGCAG)

48 BTW, the New York Times is reporting to day that in their efforts to light up World War III before Trump takes office, the British and French are considering sending troops to Ukraine.

But wait! It gets better!

The Biden Administration is considering sending nukes to Ukraine.

Several officials even suggested that Mr. Biden could return nuclear weapons to Ukraine that were taken from it after the fall of the Soviet Union. That would be an instant and enormous deterrent. But such a step would be complicated and have serious implications.

You think?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 25, 2024 02:29 PM (uxCna)

49 Looks more like Colin Farrell's the Penguin to me.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2024 02:28 PM (oZhjI)

Haven't watched (heard good things though), so that wasn't the image that came to mind for me.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 25, 2024 02:29 PM (B9Prs)

50 I think the public will view charges against Dims/statists/GOPe differently somehow:

Greg Price @greg_price11 Nov 22
Denver Mayor @MikeJohnstonCO: I will use police to block the feds from deporting illegals.

*one day later*

Illegal alien in Denver is charged with raping a 14-year-old girl.
https://tinyurl.com/2xurjxek

Spencer Lindquist @SpencerLndqst Nov 22
An illegal alien was charged with raping a 14-year-old girl in Denver, Colorado right after the mayor Mike Johnston pledged to resist Trump's mass deportation agenda.

I reported for @realDailyWire:
https://tinyurl.com/4xnteur5

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 25, 2024 02:29 PM (hovnC)

51 According to X What's his name, the Denver mayor, drove away from an airport with a rental car he had not duly paid for.

So? Then the Denver mayor got one thing right in his life. If I have a car reservation and the employees have abandoned the rental counter and the keys are sitting there, I'm taking my reserved car and dealing with it later, not wasting my time at the airport.

Posted by: Chuck C at November 25, 2024 02:29 PM (yOPBE)

52 The courts have been pretty that virtually everything having to do with border security is federal. I think the Mayor of Denver or some of these illegal loving governors are going to have a hard time winning defying the feds in court.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 25, 2024 02:29 PM (LkLld)

53 >>> 11 Be good for stupid lefties to learn how to mow their grass and do some simple home repairs. Make vocational training great again.
Posted by: IC - Cope Harder, Liberals at November 25, 2024 02:23 PM (EmT/E)

As if.

I will be happy to charge them $50/hour.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 25, 2024 02:29 PM (KcwUg)

54 Border Czar Nominee Tom Homan: "Resistance" Governors and Mayors Who Block Deportation Efforts Will Be Prosecuted for Harboring Illegal Aliens
Homan sees this issue with the proper amount of nuance, which is nearly none at all.


Speak softly. Carry a big stick. Don't be afraid to swing it.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 25, 2024 02:29 PM (UE7n4)

55 Speaking of "willowed" is willow still around?

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 25, 2024 02:30 PM (WPL6O)

56 I mowed lawns for a couple of people when I was in high school. I made decent spending money.

Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2024 02:30 PM (v6JzV)

57 Americans are about to learn how to
-maintain their own lawns
-clean their own house
-make home repairs themselves
-grow a home garden
________

There will be plenty of former federal employees to do those jobs. I expect to see Wray trimming my rose bushes, while Mayorkas sharpens the blades for him.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 25, 2024 02:30 PM (1bNHn)

58 Mexicans call Tom Homan 'The Donkey Show'.

Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2024 02:30 PM (z/jjr)

59 This argument that central americans are "doing jobs that American's won't do" is one of the most perplexing arguments I've ever heard.

Are you saying Ecuadorians are genetically predisposed to mowing lawns? Or that Americans are too lazy to mow lawns? Or both? And if we legalized those immigrations, would they still be mowing lawns, or would they try to find work in other sectors?

It's an insulting and nonsense argument.

Either way, I think it's a GOOD thing if the cost of domestic services go up. It should go up. That's how a healthy economy works. If the demand is high, the supply either increases, or the price increases. If we cut off the flow of supply (illegals), the price will equalize somewhere where being a landscaper is, once again, a career where people can live a normal life and not a life on welfare.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 25, 2024 02:30 PM (Evo1G)

60 50 Spencer Lindquist @SpencerLndqst Nov 22
An illegal alien was charged with raping a 14-year-old girl in Denver, Colorado right after the mayor Mike Johnston pledged to resist Trump's mass deportation agenda.

I reported for @realDailyWire:
https://tinyurl.com/4xnteur5
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 25, 2024 02:29 PM (hovnC)

=========

Yeah, the people are going to react badly to the feds trying to correct this situation because it's exactly the same as creating legal theories out of nothing and prosecuting the previous president for reasons no one can explain.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 25, 2024 02:30 PM (GBKbO)

61 Defund the NGOs that are aiding and abetting this illegal alien insurrection. Take their leadership into grand juries in Texas

Posted by: BigG at November 25, 2024 02:31 PM (dhVjM)

62 Harboring illegals should be like hiding criminals

Posted by: Skip at November 25, 2024 02:31 PM (fwDg9)

63 Someone tell Director Homan that Jack Smith will be available to prosecute the Resistance.

Posted by: torabora at November 25, 2024 02:31 PM (CpPSJ)

64 What is Homan's background?

Posted by: Northernlurker


Former border patrol agent, moved up through the ranks.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 25, 2024 02:31 PM (lTGtQ)

65 Speaking of "willowed" is willow still around?
Posted by: BeckoningChasm

When JJ announced his brain cancer, she showed up and wished him well.

Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2024 02:31 PM (v6JzV)

66 >>I mowed lawns for a couple of people when I was in high school. I made decent spending money.


I used to build decks for people in HS.

Also, Drop Ceilings for Commercial Builders.

On top of 2-3 other PT jobs. I made a ton of money.

Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2024 02:31 PM (z/jjr)

67 Several officials even suggested that Mr. Biden could return nuclear weapons to Ukraine that were taken from it after the fall of the Soviet Union. That would be an instant and enormous deterrent. But such a step would be complicated and have serious implications.

The only reason the ukraines gave up the Russian nukes that were on their soil was because they didn't have the arming codes.

Posted by: Chuck C at November 25, 2024 02:31 PM (yOPBE)

68 Several officials even suggested that Mr. Biden could return nuclear weapons to Ukraine that were taken from it after the fall of the Soviet Union. That would be an instant and enormous deterrent. But such a step would be complicated and have serious implications./i]

It would be fitting for the greek notion of hubris if the Junta got a limited nuclear war started and President Trump assumed office with most of the population of NYC/DC gone directly due to Biden's warmongering.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2024 02:32 PM (oZhjI)

69 Yes, the Denver mayor is an idiot, and iirc, spoiled rich kid. His own back yard is a disaster zone, so him being able to manage an entire city was never going to happen. He has been singularly focused on homelessness/illegals from the get-go. It’s all he cares about, the rest of the city could crumble and he would not notice.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 25, 2024 02:32 PM (Hkcdp)

70 Am I the only person who bought a house so that I didn't have to have random people I don't know in my personal spaces?

Posted by: Storm of Ale at November 25, 2024 02:32 PM (i14/a)

71 One of the first things that needs to happen is that it will no longer be illegal to demand proof of citizenship before hiring someone to do work at one's house.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 25, 2024 02:32 PM (xCA6C)

72 ...The important thing is to never say its about vengeance or payback. Its not.


Agreed. It's about justice. But it needs to be good and hard.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 25, 2024 02:32 PM (xyuoi)

73
The Left: We must help these poor refugees!!

Also The Left: Now who is going to mow my lawn???

Posted by: ... at November 25, 2024 02:32 PM (12v8J)

74 Americans are about to learn how to
-maintain their own lawns
-clean their own house
-make home repairs themselves
-grow a home garden

How stupid are this people?
They only know people who can afford to do all of those things.?

The only time I had someone occasionally clean my house was when I was working full time, when my husband was employed full time at a job in which he made considerably more, and when I didn't have to pay taxes on my house.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2024 02:32 PM (MQJVv)

75 The truth is, if you look at modern homes being built, they have a postage stamp-sized lawn if any to begin with. If you have to pay someone to mow your 12 square foot lawn, you're pretty pathetic.

Bottom line is an apolitical observation long ago by brit lass wife - Republicans seem serious, Democrats seem like a joke. They always look disheveled and like they just got there. Republicans show up in suits and it FEELS like something heavy is going on.

Men look 25% better in a suit. It looks like you're ready for business and people treat you with respect.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 25, 2024 02:32 PM (RsS92)

76 ""Resistance" Governors and Mayors Who Block Deportation Efforts Will Be Prosecuted for Harboring Illegal Aliens"

Oh, man I just can't WAIT to see them do the perp hoist/forklift ride for Illinois governor JBlob Pritzker. And then stick him in a cell with a disconnected toilet.

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at November 25, 2024 02:33 PM (Ft5W9)

77 I had to go to Walmart this morning to pick up my prescription and get a few things. While there I saw a bunch of people who I hope are about to enjoy their first and last Thanksgiving Day in the US.

Posted by: huerfano at November 25, 2024 02:33 PM (DKIGo)

78 Landscape crews come in every size, shape and color/race/ethnicity

I haven't seen any females though
Posted by: kallisto at November 25, 2024 02:27 PM (dCxaZ)

Oh! The Chefs/Panzers football game yesterday had a chick official on the field. Not a ref, but one of the line judges or whatever.

At first I thought that's silly, but as terrible as officiating is in pro sports, having a chick do it, it can't get any worse.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2024 02:33 PM (dGCAG)

79 That tweet is a prime showcase of the divide in America:

The Democrats and the left have maids, lawn services and home repairmen they hire.

The rest of us don't 'cause we can't afford any of that.

And they literally do not know that.
What do you mean "about to" pendejo?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 25, 2024 02:33 PM (8Kx9y)

80 Has Netflix made an Anne Frank movie, except she's a black Hidpanic lesbian?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at November 25, 2024 02:33 PM (kTd/k)

81 Hondurans have the roofing business covered. They can have it.
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@amuse @amuse 4h
TEMU ELON: Florida man has been arrested for posing as Elon Musk on Facebook and stealing $600,000 from an elderly woman. NOTE: Elon won’t reach out to you on Facebook to ask you to invest in his roofing business.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 25, 2024 02:33 PM (hovnC)

82 Looks more like Colin Farrell's the Penguin to me.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2024 02:28 PM (oZhjI)

Haven't watched (heard good things though), so that wasn't the image that came to mind for me.
Posted by: joe

The prosthetics they use equal the stuff they used on Brendan Frasure in The Whale. He doesn't even look like himself. And so far so good on the Penguin.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 25, 2024 02:33 PM (UE7n4)

83 74-and that was before we had our wonderful son to take care of.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2024 02:34 PM (MQJVv)

84 Harboring illegals should be like hiding criminals

Posted by: Skip



They are hiding criminals.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 25, 2024 02:34 PM (lTGtQ)

85 Several officials even suggested that Mr. Biden could return nuclear weapons to Ukraine that were taken from it after the fall of the Soviet Union.

Just to be clear, although there were Soviet nuclear weapons on Ukrainian soil when the Soviet Union collapsed, the Ukrainians never had the Soviet arming codes, so the nukes weren't usable.

Ukraine was never a nuclear power.

One assumes that with enough time and effort, the Ukes might have jury-rigged a way around the arming code devices, but that's not the same thing as saying that they had nukes when the USSR collapsed.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 25, 2024 02:34 PM (uxCna)

86 Bottom line is an apolitical observation long ago by brit lass wife - Republicans seem serious, Democrats seem like a joke. They always look disheveled and like they just got there. Republicans show up in suits and it FEELS like something heavy is going on.

Men look 25% better in a suit. It looks like you're ready for business and people treat you with respect.


Sure, but a suit of armor is even better. Preferably with greaves.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 25, 2024 02:34 PM (xCA6C)

87 Leftist in the HOA.... "Does this mean I'll have to mow my own grass?"

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 25, 2024 02:34 PM (Q4IgG)

88 First comes the saber rattling warning.

After that, some prosecutions to show it wasn't just all talk.

Then, the obviously dangerous criminals are ejected.

All of which creates incentive for other illegals to self deport.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 25, 2024 02:34 PM (tT6L1)

89 >>What is Homan's background?


He was an Army Ranger. A Navy Seal.

And before that, an Eagle Scout.

Before Tom Homan, the 1000 Yard Stare was only 350 yards.

Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2024 02:34 PM (z/jjr)

90 President Trump should announce on day one of his presidency, the end of welfare, food stamps, free healthcare and all other govt handouts for illegal aliens. No funds for those activities to sanctuary cities and states.
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That self deports half of the criminal illegal invaders.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at November 25, 2024 02:34 PM (17s+e)

91 And the bottom line is that I can choose to not buy that head of lettuce, but I will not have the choice to not pay the increased social costs of supporting - through my taxes - these tens of millions of indigents. If I have to support people in need, I prefer them to be Americans. For crying out loud again.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 25, 2024 02:29 PM (xyuoi)

100%. I am absolutely willing to pay slightly more money for food to support decent lower middle class (or whatever) wages for Americans working.

Because the other side of that ledger is more americans working (so fewer outlays for welfare) and fewer immigrants here (so fewer outlays on the immense spending we spend on illegals).

And to save billions in tax dollars, all we need to do is pay $.20 more per head of lettuce? Sounds like a great deal.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 25, 2024 02:34 PM (Evo1G)

92 Am I the only person who bought a house so that I didn't have to have random people I don't know in my personal spaces?
Posted by: Storm of Ale


I just read that Mount Vernon had a huge front porch, which was unusual for the time, because George Washington got a lot of random people showing up to meet or schmooze him, and he wanted a place to meet with them outside so he wouldn't have to let them into his house.

Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2024 02:34 PM (v6JzV)

93 At first I thought that's silly, but as terrible as officiating is in pro sports, having a chick do it, it can't get any worse.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2024 02:33 PM (dGCAG)

Plus she can keep the other officials well nourished with sandwiches.

Posted by: ... at November 25, 2024 02:35 PM (12v8J)

94
The Democrats and the left have maids, lawn services and home repairmen they hire.


I saw an article in one of the leftwing web-zines, maybe Slate, maybe the Atlantic, arguing that the "achievements" of feminism were mostly upper class white women hiring poor minority women to take care of their kids, cook their food, and clean their houses. And...they aren't entirely wrong here.

All of the AWFLs I know have foreign "help". And complain about the salaries American women want to do that work...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2024 02:35 PM (oZhjI)

95 Why do these idiots keep using the same argument used for slavery as their flex? Honestly, just bless their little hearts.

Old and busted: "who's gonna pick our cotton??"
New and hot: "who's gonna mow our lawn?"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 25, 2024 02:27 PM (RsS92)

Who's gonna fill their shoes?
https://youtu.be/vxHjRqnY7zA

Posted by: Zombie George Jones at November 25, 2024 02:35 PM (Aqu9a)

96 Not so fast

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at November 25, 2024 02:35 PM (IyPmt)

97 The Trump prosecutions were for "crimes" that didn't personally affect anyone (E. Jean Carroll is a lying skank). Everyone has been impacted in some way by illegal aliens...crime rates, property values, tax hikes, hospital closures, cost of living, the spread of previously eradicated diseases. You name it, illegal immigration has been there, done that, fucked it up.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at November 25, 2024 02:35 PM (u7cz3)

98 Is Jason C. making the point that illegal laborers are trivial in the workforce?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 25, 2024 02:35 PM (aD39U)

99 Landscape crews come in every size, shape and color/race/ethnicity

When I was growing up in California in the 1960s, all the retired gardeners were Italian, all the middle-aged gardeners were Japanese, and all the young gardeners were Mexican.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 25, 2024 02:36 PM (uxCna)

100 This guy sounds the part but I remember doing the Chuck Norris thing over that dummy "Mad Dog".

Posted by: ... at November 25, 2024 02:36 PM (12v8J)

101 What is Homan's background?


He was an Army Ranger. A Navy Seal.

And before that, an Eagle Scout.

Before Tom Homan, the 1000 Yard Stare was only 350 yards.


When he met Chuck Norris, Norris genuflected.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 25, 2024 02:36 PM (xCA6C)

102 In this video, there's something that bothers me a lot more than the DOI "elected government official":

https://tinyurl.com/5n7bfspc

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 25, 2024 02:36 PM (K3JKK)

103 160 years after the Civil War, Democrats still want a 'servant' class to work on the cheap for them.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at November 25, 2024 02:36 PM (CwhoI)

104 >>What is Homan's background?


He was an Army Ranger. A Navy Seal.

And before that, an Eagle Scout.

Before Tom Homan, the 1000 Yard Stare was only 350 yards.
Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2024 02:34 PM (z/jjr)

LOL +1

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 25, 2024 02:36 PM (Aqu9a)

105 I mow my own lawn.

My rates are about to go up!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Do you have a riding mower with a beer holder?

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 25, 2024 02:36 PM (jFCkp)

106 At first I thought that's silly, but as terrible as officiating is in pro sports, having a chick do it, it can't get any worse.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2024 02:33 PM (dGCAG)

——————-

Look, I shouldn’t have to tell you why I threw the flag!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 25, 2024 02:36 PM (u73oe)

107 >>This guy sounds the part but I remember doing the Chuck Norris thing over that dummy "Mad Dog".


When we let Reality ruin a fun gag...the Communists will have won.

Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2024 02:36 PM (z/jjr)

108 What is Homan's background?
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A green screen.

I don't even know what that means.

Posted by: ... at November 25, 2024 02:36 PM (12v8J)

109 Lawn maintenance is going to get extremely expensive in California.

You're going to need an $80000 electric truck pulling a trailer full of electric landscaping tools using $16 hour minimum wage workers. Your workers are going to lured away by $20 hour minimum food service or $25 hour minimum medical jobs.

A lot of lawns are going to be weeds. Like mine.

Posted by: torabora at November 25, 2024 02:36 PM (CpPSJ)

110 At first I thought that's silly, but as terrible as officiating is in pro sports, having a chick do it, it can't get any worse.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2024 02:33 PM (dGCAG)

Plus she can keep the other officials well nourished with sandwiches.
Posted by: ... at November 25, 2024 02:35 PM (12v8J)

She didn't look like the sammich making type. More like a carpet muncher.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2024 02:37 PM (dGCAG)

111 When we let Reality ruin a fun gag...the Communists will have won.

Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2024 02:36 PM (z/jjr)

Reality ruining a fun gag is my middle name.

Posted by: ... at November 25, 2024 02:37 PM (12v8J)

112 Matt Wallace

@MattWallace888
🚨BREAKING: A senior Biden administration official is reportedly ready to present evidence suggesting the cocaine found in the White House was linked to Barack Obama, not Hunter Biden.

Reports allege it was left by Obama during a visit to the White House.

Did the U.S. Secret Service know about this? Everything is starting to make sense now!

Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 25, 2024 02:37 PM (TGPs7)

113 Everyone nostalgic for the 1950s might not realize what that actually entails. https://t.co/enWhwz1koC
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Actually, I long for the re-instituton of the HUAC. So, yeah, let's roll.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 25, 2024 02:37 PM (XeU6L)

114 -maintain their own lawns
-clean their own house
-make home repairs themselves
-grow a home garden

I've been doing most of that stuff myself, and have been since before I was a teenager.

Posted by: Paco at November 25, 2024 02:37 PM (njExo)

115 >>What is Homan's background?


He was an Army Ranger. A Navy Seal.

And before that, an Eagle Scout.

Before Tom Homan, the 1000 Yard Stare was only 350 yards.
Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2024 02:34 PM


When Todd Homan passes Chuck Norris on the street, they nod at one another respectfully.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 25, 2024 02:38 PM (ZANHd)

116 Every NGO involved with this mess needs a thorough examination and prosecution where evidence of a crime is found. The execs should be imprisoned if found guilty.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 25, 2024 02:38 PM (IG4Id)

117 And before that, an Eagle Scout.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 25, 2024 02:36 PM (xCA6C)
-

I was a quartermaster.

I could'a been a contender.

STELLA!!!!!!!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 25, 2024 02:38 PM (K3JKK)

118 I just read that Mount Vernon had a huge front porch, which was unusual for the time, because George Washington got a lot of random people showing up to meet or schmooze him, and he wanted a place to meet with them outside so he wouldn't have to let them into his house.

I think that was a fairly common architectural feature of the time, since there was no AC. As you know, DC in the summer is pretty stifling.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 25, 2024 02:38 PM (xCA6C)

119 Reports allege it was left by Obama during a visit to the White House.

Did the U.S. Secret Service know about this? Everything is starting to make sense now!
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 25, 2024 02:37 PM (TGPs7)

What a twist!

Posted by: M. Night. Shamalyamadingdong at November 25, 2024 02:38 PM (B9Prs)

120 I live in DuPage County, IL, next door to Cook County; I use Davey Tree Co exclusively for tree maintenance/shrub planting/cleanup and mulching etc.

The last few years basically a longboat crew from 'Thor' shows up. Big, strapping blondish giants, many with beards. I keep waiting for them to start sporting horns on their hard hats along with the face shields and ear muffs. One of these days Imma gonna put 'Immigrant Song' on the outside speakers and see how many sing along.

And, no lie, I DID hear one of the guys singing 'I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK' as he went about his tasks.

Just one counter to the 'only illegals do the outside work anymore' bilge.

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at November 25, 2024 02:38 PM (Ft5W9)

Posted by: Archimedes at November 25, 2024 02:38 PM (xCA6C)

122 I just read that Mount Vernon had a huge front porch, which was unusual for the time, because George Washington got a lot of random people showing up to meet or schmooze him, and he wanted a place to meet with them outside so he wouldn't have to let them into his house.
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The breeze off the Potomac is very welcomed prior to A/C.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 25, 2024 02:38 PM (jFCkp)

123 If any of these Sanctuary zones want to continue giving illegals free health care and rent subsidies, they can steal that money from their own citizens/taxpayers for that purpose, and see if how their voters like it.


THIS x one million.

Stop the flow of money, and make thrm feel the pain.
Start deporting in red areas first, pushing the illegal criminals to sanctuary cities and states, to hasten their demise.

Make them bake the Deportation Cake.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 25, 2024 02:38 PM (ufFY8)

124 Americans are about to learn how to
-maintain their own lawns
-clean their own house
-make home repairs themselves
-grow a home garden


Yeah we do all this and I make plenty of money. This is why they lose. They understand nothing about the way this country works

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 25, 2024 02:38 PM (NtVYv)

125 !

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 25, 2024 02:38 PM (KcwUg)

126 Sure, but a suit of armor is even better. Preferably with greaves.

Well, clearly. Sword or axe or mace, though? Maybe spear and shield.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 25, 2024 02:38 PM (RsS92)

127 According to X What's his name, the Denver mayor, drove away from an airport with a rental car he had not duly paid for.

So? Then the Denver mayor got one thing right in his life. If I have a car reservation and the employees have abandoned the rental counter and the keys are sitting there, I'm taking my reserved car and dealing with it later, not wasting my time at the airport.


Careful about that. If it's a Hertz car you may get arrested for driving a stolen vehicle. Because a previous customer turned it in late and Hertz never told the cops they'd recovered it.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at November 25, 2024 02:39 PM (Gyft8)

128 Douglas Macgregor
@DougAMacgregor

BREAKING: France and England reportedly now in talks to deploy troops to Ukraine if Trump withdraws military aid.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 25, 2024 02:39 PM (TGPs7)

129 cutting off funding is just as effective as a criminal prosecution, and easier/faster to carry out

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at November 25, 2024 02:39 PM (V6W16)

130 Wasn't Homam Trump's Border Patrol boss in his first term?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 25, 2024 02:39 PM (KcwUg)

131 I mowed lawns for a couple of people when I was in high school. I made decent spending money.
Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2024 02:30 PM (v6JzV)

Same here until I was 16 and got a driver's license. Could make more money on a custom wheat-harvesting crew.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at November 25, 2024 02:39 PM (g8Ew8)

132 There is little question, though, that these Sanctuary jurisdictions should have federal monies stripped from them, as Homan suggests. The federal government is paying blue cities a lot of money supposedly for "law enforcement;" if they won't enforce the law, that money should stop.

This, and lots of it.

Posted by: Paco at November 25, 2024 02:39 PM (njExo)

133 This guy sounds the part but I remember doing the Chuck Norris thing over that dummy "Mad Dog".
Posted by: ...

I'm old enough to remember Scott Walker's Throne of Skulls.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at November 25, 2024 02:39 PM (u7cz3)

134 1950's lawn care:

Kid rings doorbell: "Mr, mow your lawn for fifty cents?"

Man digs out lawn mower and says, "have at it!"

Funny how kids back then tended to be a bit leaner than the kids of today.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 25, 2024 02:39 PM (tT6L1)

135 Speaking of fun gags, I am 99.999% positive people here at the time suggested it was Ofuckstick's.

I don't even know what to believe but the theory reasonably funny.

Posted by: ... at November 25, 2024 02:40 PM (12v8J)

136 At first I thought that's silly, but as terrible as officiating is in pro sports, having a chick do it, it can't get any worse.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2024 02:33 PM (dGCAG)

——————-

Look, I shouldn’t have to tell you why I threw the flag!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 25, 2024 02:36 PM (u73oe)

I was gonna say, but why is the flag mauve colored, but I think maybe the NFL already did that.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2024 02:40 PM (dGCAG)

137 Blah Blah and I will sure miss the cheap lettuce we now get even if it has a bit of our little brown brothers from South of The Border fecal matter on some of the leaves. Adds flavor and mouth feel in my opinion. Blah Blah says since the hired help will now be deported we can use our SS money for another cruise or two for next year when we are not blowing that money on the slots in Vegas instead of paying Graciela and her crew less than minimum wage under the table.

Posted by: Harriet And Blah Blah Nyborg, Lifelong democrats and moochers at November 25, 2024 02:40 PM (Y5VD5)

138 I don't understand the "grow a home garden" one.

Do people pay other people to plant and maintain the garden at their home? Like, tomatoes, herbs, etc? If it's like flowers, I'd assume that would fall under lawncare mentioned above.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 25, 2024 02:40 PM (B9Prs)

139 I think the public might just reject all attempts to prosecute political actors over political disputes, but we'll have to see.

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Perhaps. Perhaps not. It shouldn't be a consideration. Trump is a second term President whose own Party is against him and whom he owes nothing but disdain. He has literally nothing to worry about in the future electorally. He should just do whatever he feels like. Why should he care if he harms GOP electoral odds in the future?

Just go ape shit, Donald.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 25, 2024 02:40 PM (7oYYI)

140 103 160 years after the Civil War, Democrats still want a 'servant' class to work on the cheap for them.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at November 25, 2024 02:36 PM (CwhoI)
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They're fixing it by tiering minimum wage. $16 for the bottom. $20 food service. $25 for medical related work.

Posted by: torabora at November 25, 2024 02:40 PM (CpPSJ)

141 Reports allege it was left by Obama during a visit to the White House.

Did the U.S. Secret Service know about this? Everything is starting to make sense now!

Posted by: Mister Ghost


If I were to guess at what he would sneak into the white house, it would be roofies for the pool boys.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 25, 2024 02:40 PM (lTGtQ)

142 Homan's background:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump · Nov 10
I am pleased to announce that the Former ICE Director, and stalwart on Border Control, Tom Homan, will be joining the Trump Administration, in charge of our Nation’s Borders (“The Border Czar”, including, but not limited to, the Southern Border, the Northern Border, all Maritime, and Aviation Security. I’ve known Tom for a long time, and there is nobody better at policing and controlling our Borders. Likewise, Tom Homan will be in charge of all Deportation of Illegal Aliens back to their Country of Origin. Congratulations to Tom. I have no doubt he will do a fantastic, and long awaited for, job.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 25, 2024 02:40 PM (hovnC)

143 THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKIN' 'BOUT!

Posted by: ShainS -- We shot them under DOD Directive 5240.01 at November 25, 2024 02:40 PM (/YFXY)

144 Americans are about to learn how to
-maintain their own lawns
-clean their own house
-make home repairs themselves
-grow a home garden
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Or... or spoiled children and teenagers are going to start earning money doing those chores. Who knows might even get my order correct in ENGLISH at a burger joint.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at November 25, 2024 02:40 PM (17s+e)

145 Yeah! Rick Perry kicked ass, chewed bubblegum, and... I can't remember the third thing he did.

Posted by: ... at November 25, 2024 02:40 PM (12v8J)

146 All of the AWFLs I know have foreign "help". And complain about the salaries American women want to do that work...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2024 02:35 PM (oZhjI)

100% true.

I have a co-worker who is a big liberal. She works part time, her husband has family money. They own a multi million dollar co-op in SoHo and a multi million dollar house in the Hamptons. They have two kids with stupid names.

They employ an army of domestic helpers. I don't know the immigration status of these people, but I do know that my co-worker has been sued 3 times for failing to pay people according to the law laws (mostly not paying overtime), and that she always bitches about how much she has to pay the help.

Which is just crazy to me. First off, you don't NEED 24/7 nanny coverage, a house keeper, a driver, and a chef. But if you ARE going to hire those people, yes, you should have to pay them appropriately.

But anyways, she's obviously a big fan of immigration.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 25, 2024 02:40 PM (Evo1G)

147 Too nice out for late November and I have leaves to chop up and get into compost bin because I don't have illegals to do it

Posted by: Skip at November 25, 2024 02:40 PM (fwDg9)

148 About five seconds after the deportations begin cable news will be wall to wall crying children. I think Homan has zero fucks to give.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 25, 2024 02:40 PM (u73oe)

149 BREAKING: France and England reportedly now in talks to deploy troops to Ukraine if Trump withdraws military aid.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 25, 2024 02:39 PM (TGPs7)
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I guess Russia launching that intermediate range missile wasn't enough of a warning.

Idiots.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 25, 2024 02:41 PM (tT6L1)

150 Just one counter to the 'only illegals do the outside work anymore' bilge.

I think it depends a lot where you live. If you live in the only places true humans actually live according to the left (California and NYC) you're going to have different expectations than someone living in South Dakota or Arkansas.

For the Californians, its always hispanic help (as someone else pointed out, it used to be Japanese). If you live in New York, its Puerto Rican etc.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 25, 2024 02:41 PM (RsS92)

151 Several officials even suggested that Mr. Biden could return nuclear weapons to Ukraine that were taken from it after the fall of the Soviet Union. That would be an instant and enormous deterrent. But such a step would be complicated and have serious implications.

It would be fitting for the greek notion of hubris if the Junta got a limited nuclear war started and President Trump assumed office with most of the population of NYC/DC gone directly due to Biden's warmongering.

Posted by: 18-1


That would instantly get Ukraine nuked. No way Putin allows that.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 25, 2024 02:41 PM (UE7n4)

152 It's amazing how quickly the left went from damning this nation for being built on exploited labor to telling us how bad it will be if we don't have brown people to mow our lawns for us.

Posted by: Sarge at November 25, 2024 02:41 PM (BzF4R)

153 Its going to depend on who wins the publicity war to frame the efforts. If the left manages to convince people that its only Trump throwing a tantrum and looking for revenge by abusing power, then he's in trouble.
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Every single article that touches on immigration has to include the line "false claims immigrants were eating pets" or some variation.
It's hilarious how desperate they are--still--to spike that one line from the debate.

BTW, we should remind the left that, although Kamala lost the election, she did "win" the debate.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 25, 2024 02:41 PM (8Kx9y)

154 Douglas Macgregor
@DougAMacgregor

BREAKING: France and England reportedly now in talks to deploy troops to Ukraine if Trump withdraws military aid.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 25, 2024 02:39 PM (TGPs7)

Fine by me. Let Europe solve their own problems for a change.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at November 25, 2024 02:41 PM (g8Ew8)

155 Douglas Macgregor
@DougAMacgregor

BREAKING: France and England reportedly now in talks to deploy troops to Ukraine if Trump withdraws military aid.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 25, 2024 02:39 PM (TGPs7)

Meanwhile, Germany makes ready their latest version of the Von Schlieffen plan.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2024 02:41 PM (dGCAG)

156 Good news, everyone! They're practically giving away Thanksgiving dinners this year!

RNC Research@RNCResearch
Karine Jean-Pierre is back to bragging about "lower" prices. Except......

— Grocery prices are still up 22.2% under Biden-Harris.

— Gas prices are still up ~30% under Biden-Harris.

— A typical Thanksgiving meal still costs ~20% more under Biden-Harris.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at November 25, 2024 02:41 PM (L/fGl)

157 41 Way too skinny. Now, Governor Pritzker, maybe...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 25, 2024 02:27 PM (KcwUg)
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Ohh, Ohh, Ozempic...

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 25, 2024 02:41 PM (jFCkp)

158 I don't understand the "grow a home garden" one.

Do people pay other people to plant and maintain the garden at their home? Like, tomatoes, herbs, etc? If it's like flowers, I'd assume that would fall under lawncare mentioned above.


For most people, growing a garden is a money loser compared to buying at Costco or whatever. It's a hobby, and a fun way to get outside, but no way is it cost effective.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 25, 2024 02:42 PM (xCA6C)

159 Posted by: Harriet And Blah Blah Nyborg, Lifelong democrats and moochers at November 25, 2024 02:40 PM (Y5VD5)

I didn't realize these names were from Glengarry Glenn Ross, until I watched it again a few weeks back.

Posted by: spindrift at November 25, 2024 02:42 PM (OguvZ)

160 Douglas Macgregor
@DougAMacgregor

BREAKING: France and England reportedly now in talks to deploy troops to Ukraine if Trump withdraws military aid.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 25, 2024 02:39 PM (TGPs7)

One more reason to quit NATO.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at November 25, 2024 02:42 PM (VNX3d)

161 No gas powered portable equipment. All battery.
So all the stuff that breaks is land fill. No small engine repair shops.

Posted by: torabora at November 25, 2024 02:42 PM (CpPSJ)

162 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 25, 2024 02:40 PM (7oYYI)

Yes but on the contrary I think Trump wants to fuck the Left for a generation or more. That is a legacy, and it might just spare the world some little bit longer.

Posted by: ... at November 25, 2024 02:42 PM (12v8J)

163 BREAKING: France and England reportedly now in talks to deploy troops to Ukraine if Trump withdraws military aid.

Posted by: Mister Ghost



Do it. Then we pull out of NATO.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 25, 2024 02:42 PM (lTGtQ)

164 @MattWallace888
🚨BREAKING: A senior Biden administration official is reportedly ready to present evidence suggesting the cocaine found in the White House was linked to Barack Obama, not Hunter Biden.

Reports allege it was left by Obama during a visit to the White House.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 25, 2024 02:37 PM (TGPs7)
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So he's really more than 50% white.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 25, 2024 02:42 PM (K3JKK)

165 Fine by me. Let Europe solve their own problems for a change.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at November 25, 2024 02:41 PM (g8Ew

When has that ever worked?

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2024 02:42 PM (dGCAG)

166 >>> 128 Douglas Macgregor
@DougAMacgregor

BREAKING: France and England reportedly now in talks to deploy troops to Ukraine if Trump withdraws military aid.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 25, 2024 02:39 PM (TGPs7)

So it will be what, 10 minutes before the cheese-eaters *and* the limeys surrender?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 25, 2024 02:43 PM (KcwUg)

167 Oh cry me a river, teenagers are going to have to do chores because the cheap illegal domestics will be gone. However shall they survive. Plus those same teens may be more able to get entry level jobs as businesses cant use under the table workers with some enforcement.

Posted by: PaleRider at November 25, 2024 02:43 PM (UKUm3)

168 >>BREAKING: France and England reportedly now in talks to deploy troops to Ukraine if Trump withdraws military aid.

Ok. Fine by me. Let France and the UK deal with Vlad.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 25, 2024 02:43 PM (LkLld)

169 154 Douglas Macgregor
@DougAMacgregor

BREAKING: France and England reportedly now in talks to deploy troops to Ukraine if Trump withdraws military aid.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 25, 2024 02:39 PM (TGPs7)

Fine by me. Let Europe solve their own problems for a change.
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Mmmm, remember the last two countries to invade Russia were Germany and France.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 25, 2024 02:43 PM (jFCkp)

170 BREAKING: France and England reportedly now in talks to deploy troops to Ukraine if Trump withdraws military aid.
Posted by: Mister Ghost

Well, they do know trench warfare.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at November 25, 2024 02:43 PM (L/fGl)

171 France and England reportedly now in talks to deploy troops to Ukraine if Trump withdraws military aid.

I think that is just posturing. Neither has much of a real standing army any longer and both rely very heavily on US military presence. If the US won't play along, they will not either.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 25, 2024 02:43 PM (RsS92)

172 Just one counter to the 'only illegals do the outside work anymore' bilge.

What of the ag workers? Don't fear the reaper, dudes.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 25, 2024 02:43 PM (aD39U)

173 BREAKING: France and England reportedly now in talks to deploy troops to Ukraine if Trump withdraws military aid.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 25, 2024 02:39 PM (

Good.

Posted by: Piper at November 25, 2024 02:43 PM (p4NUW)

174 Mmmm, remember the last two countries to invade Russia were Germany and France.
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Correction - Britain and France.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 25, 2024 02:43 PM (jFCkp)

175 >>BREAKING: France and England reportedly now in talks to deploy troops to Ukraine if Trump withdraws military aid.


I don't think Putin wants all of Europe...

but, if they are going to roll out the Red Carpet?

Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2024 02:43 PM (z/jjr)

176 I think the public might just reject all attempts to prosecute political actors over political disputes, but we'll have to see.

---------------

RUFKM?

Seeing traitors and other overt in-our-face criminals held to account and be legally punished?

JD Vance may win a 57-state landslide in '28 ...

Posted by: ShainS -- We shot them under DOD Directive 5240.01 at November 25, 2024 02:43 PM (/YFXY)

177 It's amazing how quickly the left went from damning this nation for being built on exploited labor to telling us how bad it will be if we don't have brown people to mow our lawns for us.
Posted by: Sarge at November 25, 2024 02:41 PM (BzF4R)

The Left's thing has long been punishing you for their own crimes.

Posted by: ... at November 25, 2024 02:44 PM (12v8J)

178 ***Border Czar Nominee Tom Homan: "Resistance"
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is futile, surrender and I will be merciful.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at November 25, 2024 02:44 PM (om3Wy)

179 We already know the public rejected the lawfare against Trump. Now, if Trump begins using legal process against #Resistance figures (who are legitimately breaking the law), we'll see if the public is against all use of prosecutorial power to settle political disputes, or only plainly rancid and corrupt uses of the power, as we saw in the five Trump prosecutions.

Unlike Trump, these sanctuary city/state clowns are committing actual felony violations of Federal law. I'll allow that there's no way the media tells anyone that distinction, but it is a true thing.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 25, 2024 02:44 PM (2ocoG)

180 Tell me how much it costs America for all of the ER visits and other medical care that these illegals consume. And just for shits and giggles, add in the cost of policing and incarceration.

I'll bet it dwarfs the theoretical increase in food production costs.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 25, 2024 02:44 PM (d9fT1)

181 Ok. Fine by me. Let France and the UK deal with Vlad.

As long as they don't drag us into yet another one of their territorial disputes. You're on your own this time.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 25, 2024 02:44 PM (RsS92)

182 For most people, growing a garden is a money loser compared to buying at Costco or whatever. It's a hobby, and a fun way to get outside, but no way is it cost effective.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 25, 2024 02:42 PM (xCA6C)

So then I don't see the connection with the loss of cheap local illegal labor. They're saying the price of food is going to go up we won't be able to afford vegetables unless we grow them ourselves?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 25, 2024 02:44 PM (B9Prs)

183 My son cleans the house, including the bathrooms. That is why I pay him an allowance. At his work this summer at a restaurant, when he went back to school and put in his notice, the initial replacement was an illegal. That lasted a day, as the owner called ICE or DPS, and the illegal was taken into custody. The second replacement was an actual Texas resident. If all government assistance was cut off and businesses acted like my son's employer, most illegals will self deport. Government assistance includes schools, hospitals, and anything that takes one cent of government money, other than the bus ticket to the border, which I would be ok with using tax dollars for.

Posted by: TheITGuy2 at November 25, 2024 02:45 PM (+Em2P)

184 AFAIK we get no benefit from illegal alien slaves at our house. I've never paid anyone to clean my home or mow my lawn. Frankly, it's an icky thought. Probably my right wing sensibilities.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 25, 2024 02:45 PM (w6EFb)

185 Or... or spoiled children and teenagers are going to start earning money doing those chores. Who knows might even get my order correct in ENGLISH at a burger joint.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at November 25, 2024 02:40 PM (17s+e)

Yes. Off the tablets and outside with these kids.

I do give props to my local DQ. The workers there are wonderful. Always polite and the place is spotless.

Posted by: Scarymary at November 25, 2024 02:45 PM (K1HkL)

186 Mmmm, remember the last two countries to invade Russia were Germany and France.
Posted by: Pudinhead


Don't forget the multiple foreign interventions during the Russian Civil War.

Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2024 02:45 PM (v6JzV)

187 Yeah! Rick Perry kicked ass, chewed bubblegum, and... I can't remember the third thing he did.
Posted by: ... at November 25, 2024 02:40 PM (12v8J)

Third thing: Got bent out of shape because Trump said, "pussy".

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at November 25, 2024 02:45 PM (g8Ew8)

188 I also like the casual slur/insult against everyone that works on landscaping, home repair or home cleaning.

The insinuation that it's too hard and way beneath people.


It's slowly dawning on some of the quicker Dems that they just lost the title "for the working man" in this election.

And 1) they ain't getting it back and 2) tweets like this drive even more non-college away from the Dems.

Fantastic.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 25, 2024 02:45 PM (8Kx9y)

189 They employ an army of domestic helpers.

There's an economics professor at the University of Michigan who says that it would be far more efficient if the American professional class used a lot more servants.

And, yes, he is a very Left-wing Democrat.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 25, 2024 02:45 PM (uxCna)

190 I've said some less than complimentary things about Vladimir Putin over the years. But if he cauterizes the Acela Corridor with hypersonic missiles, I'll personally chip in for one of those hideous gigantic flower-wreathed portraits that Russian dictators love so much.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 25, 2024 02:46 PM (7oYYI)

191 Those democrats never forgave us for freeing the slaves, and are bargaining now for sub-minimum wages under the table.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 25, 2024 02:46 PM (lTGtQ)

192 " Ok. Fine by me. Let France and the UK deal with Vlad.

As long as they don't drag us into yet another one of their territorial disputes. You're on your own this time."

You don't have ME to kick around any more!

Posted by: Charles Lindbergh at November 25, 2024 02:46 PM (Ft5W9)

193 Americans are about to learn how to
-maintain their own lawns
-clean their own house
-make home repairs themselves
-grow a home garden

Everyone nostalgic for the 1950s might not realize what that actually entails. https://t.co/enWhwz1koC

— Jason C


These limousine liberal elitists are so out of touch they're like characters in a Monty Python sketch about upper-class twits.

What they say:

"But who will rake your garden?"

What they mean:

"But who will rake my garden?"

Posted by: zombie at November 25, 2024 02:46 PM (pMi6S)

194 🚨BREAKING: A senior Biden administration official is reportedly ready to present evidence suggesting the cocaine found in the White House was linked to Barack Obama, not Hunter Biden.
Reports allege it was left by Obama during a visit to the White House.

-
I'm willing to suspend my disbelief on this.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at November 25, 2024 02:46 PM (L/fGl)

195 Our cat has decided there are only two choices for him: either sit on my chest directly blocking off my vision of the keyboard so I can't write... or leave entirely and sleep in another room. I get that he's not particularly bright, but seems like "sit nearby in the same room with me" is better than alone in another room but what do I know.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 25, 2024 02:46 PM (RsS92)

196 BREAKING: France and England reportedly now in talks to deploy troops to Ukraine if Trump withdraws military aid.
Posted by: Mister Ghost


It's as hilarious as it is stupid. I don't think we're obligated to help them out if they launch attacks on Russia.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 25, 2024 02:46 PM (IG4Id)

197 1950's lawn care:

Kid rings doorbell: "Mr, mow your lawn for fifty cents?"

Man digs out lawn mower and says, "have at it!"

Funny how kids back then tended to be a bit leaner than the kids of today.

Posted by: blake


Late 60's/early 70's it was $2 front, $3 for the back, and included hand edging with manual clippers.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 25, 2024 02:46 PM (UE7n4)

198
Got a friend who gave his snowflake teenager nephew a job last summer. Sweeping floors. A job "special needs" kids did in my era. Couldn't do it right.

Add school administrators and teachers to your enemy list.

Posted by: Auspex at November 25, 2024 02:46 PM (j4U/Z)

199 About five seconds after the deportations begin cable news will be wall to wall crying children. I think Homan has zero fucks to give.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 25, 2024 02:40 PM (u73oe)

I think AOC is kind of cute when she fake cries. Opinion may vary.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at November 25, 2024 02:46 PM (kTd/k)

200 I think the public might just reject all attempts to prosecute political actors over political disputes, but we'll have to see.

They arrested that town/county clerk in Kentucky (I forget the lady’s name) who refused to issue marriage licenses to homosexual couples.

As far as I’m concerned, the left chose this hill to die on almost a decade ago.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 25, 2024 02:46 PM (6ydKt)

201 > I just read that Mount Vernon had a huge front porch, which was unusual for the time, because George Washington got a lot of random people showing up to meet or schmooze him, and he wanted a place to meet with them outside so he wouldn't have to let them into his house.
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Our front porch spans the entire front of the house. For just that reason.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 25, 2024 02:47 PM (Q4IgG)

202 If Trump and Homan follow through I am going to invest in John Deere stock cause there are going to be a lot of new lawnmower sales.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 25, 2024 02:47 PM (LkLld)

203 I haven't seen any females though Posted by: kallisto

My vineyard wench is Francesca. She's a real find.
'Homeless.' Lives in a tent in the woods with her fella.
Born here, US native, ex-druggie, totes unemployable except for me and a local slumlord. Ten bucks an hour plus a ride both ways and two cheap meals, and I have to take both of them. Deal.

I'm not quite ready to move them into the caretaker cottage, but we had an energetic summer of employment together.

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at November 25, 2024 02:47 PM (zdLoL)

204 I've be happy to clean my own house, learn how to do minor home repairs, and cut my own grass . . .

. . . oh, wait. It gets hot in the summer, and my neighbors wouldn't like me running the snarling m ower at 7 am to avoid the heat. Well, there's got to be a teenage American kid or two who'd like to earn a little $$, huh?

Anybody?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 25, 2024 02:47 PM (J2vNu)

205 >>>or only plainly rancid and corrupt uses of the power, as we saw in the five Trump prosecutions.
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More than 1/2 of America can't wait for the prosecutions to begin.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at November 25, 2024 02:47 PM (om3Wy)

206 I've seen reports that Britain has more political prisoners in jail then Russia does. It gets into a question of course of who exactly is a political prisoner but there is no question Western Europe has been rapidly becoming worse.

If they want to go bleed themselves over Ukrainian graft and sex trafficking I guess that is up to them...but it certainly won't be a fight for "democracy" or whatever other crap they are pushing

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2024 02:47 PM (oZhjI)

207 It's a hobby, and a fun way to get outside, but no way is it cost effective.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 25, 2024 02:42 PM (xCA6C)

Herbs are probably cost effective if one uses a lot of them.

They certainly are for me. But produce? You are 100% correct.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 25, 2024 02:47 PM (d9fT1)

208 >>Got a friend who gave his snowflake teenager nephew a job last summer. Sweeping floors. A job "special needs" kids did in my era. Couldn't do it right.


He needed instructions on running the Push Broom?

Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2024 02:47 PM (z/jjr)

209 Remember, there aren't enough people in the British Army to fill a big American college football stadium.

Good luck fighting Russia, guys.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 25, 2024 02:47 PM (uxCna)

210 BREAKING: A senior Biden administration official is reportedly ready to present evidence suggesting the cocaine found in the White House was linked to Barack Obama, not Hunter Biden.
Reports allege it was left by Obama during a visit to the White House.

-
I'm willing to suspend my disbelief on this.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks


I'm not. No way that was obolo's. That was 100% Hunter.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 25, 2024 02:48 PM (UE7n4)

211 I'll bet it dwarfs the theoretical increase in food production costs.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 25, 2024 02:44 PM (d9fT1)
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Last few years my wife and I were in CA, hospital ER visits were a nightmare, at least, in Bakersfield. Illegals everywhere, all with very expensive cell phones, etc. They didn't care how long they had to wait to see a doctor. They weren't paying for it. Which is probably why Urgent care became a thing. $20 up front meant skin in the game and probably helped weed out more than a few of the free loaders.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 25, 2024 02:48 PM (tT6L1)

212 For most people, growing a garden is a money loser compared to buying at Costco or whatever. It's a hobby, and a fun way to get outside, but no way is it cost effective.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 25, 2024 02:42 PM (xCA6C)

So then I don't see the connection with the loss of cheap local illegal labor. They're saying the price of food is going to go up we won't be able to afford vegetables unless we grow them ourselves?


I think they're saying that farmers will have to pay more to have their crops picked, so food prices will rise, and that is correct. It's a different question whether or not that makes overall economic sense.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 25, 2024 02:48 PM (xCA6C)

213 "I think the public might just reject all attempts to prosecute political actors over political disputes, but we'll have to see."

Political he says. OK.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at November 25, 2024 02:48 PM (Z8Yh2)

214 14 What Mexico has done to accommodate this 4 year invasion is nothing less than an act of war, in my opinion. It should be dealt with harshly. Peacefully, but harshly. - Chairborne!

To borrow and adapt a line from Sydney Greenstreet in The Maltese Falcon: Peacefully, if possible, but in any event...expeditiously.

Posted by: Paco at November 25, 2024 02:48 PM (njExo)

215 "But if he cauterizes the Acela Corridor with hypersonic missiles, I'll personally chip in for one of those hideous gigantic flower-wreathed portraits that Russian dictators love so much."

I said before the election that if Putin nuked Washington DC he'd be elected US president in a write-in landslide.

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at November 25, 2024 02:48 PM (Ft5W9)

216 Got a friend who gave his snowflake teenager nephew a job last summer. Sweeping floors. A job "special needs" kids did in my era. Couldn't do it right.


He needed instructions on running the Push Broom?
Posted by: garrett


It's complicated.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 25, 2024 02:48 PM (UE7n4)

217 180: CBD. you forgot to mention paying super premiums for auto insurance, not to mention the lost wages during recovery after an illegal crashes into your car and those are direct costs to citizens, not government costs that will have to be paid eventually.

Posted by: PaleRider at November 25, 2024 02:49 PM (UKUm3)

218 I've seen reports that Britain has more political prisoners in jail then Russia does.

Russia generally punishes dissidents with fines.

Britain generally punishes dissidents with prison.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 25, 2024 02:49 PM (uxCna)

219 The house I grew up in sat on two lots, so our yard was huge. Sometimes it would take me two days to mow it.

And then I got to rake up all the mowed grass.

And I never got an allowance for it.

Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2024 02:49 PM (v6JzV)

220 What they say:

"But who will rake your garden?"

What they mean:

"But who will rake my garden?"


Yeah I think they believe it has broad appeal "we'll all be hurt by this!" when it only means they lose their nanny and gardener, which none of us have. Elites lose perspective pretty quickly in all cultures.

There's more than cost involved in home gardening, though. Its probably not more expensive to grow your own tomatos than to buy them, but the flavor of home grown is 900000% better than store bought ones. I get that its a bit of labor (like 10 minutes a day in your garden outside), but that cost is pretty minimal.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 25, 2024 02:49 PM (RsS92)

221 There's an economics professor at the University of Michigan who says that it would be far more efficient if the American professional class used a lot more servants.

And, yes, he is a very Left-wing Democrat.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 25, 2024 02:45 PM (uxCna)

Sure, you can easily justify it.

"I am a lawyer, my billable rate is $550 an hour. If I cook dinner every day, at an hour a day, that's $3,850 in labor costs alone! It's much cheaper to hire a cook to cook for me, or to eat out" or "it would cost me millions in lost billable hours to raise my kids on my own. I need to hire a nanny, it's so much cheaper!"

Of course, they're not staying up late writing briefs every day, most of the time they're sitting on the couch drinking wine and watching netflix. But you can see how they justify their laziness and lack of attention to their families / homelife.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 25, 2024 02:49 PM (Evo1G)

222 Jason C
@jasonc_nc

Americans are about to learn how to
-maintain their own lawns
-clean their own house
-make home repairs themselves
-grow a home garden

Everyone nostalgic for the 1950s might not realize what that actually entails.

============

ZitoSalena
@ZitoSalena

A lot of us do this already.

-----------------

Make Bourgeois Values Great Again!

Posted by: ShainS -- We shot them under DOD Directive 5240.01 at November 25, 2024 02:49 PM (/YFXY)

223 Americans are about to learn how to
-maintain their own lawns
-clean their own house
-make home repairs themselves
-grow a home garden
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Our long national nightmare has arrived!!!

What do these people do all day? Traffic children?

Posted by: ... at November 25, 2024 02:49 PM (12v8J)

224 Barky McFuckstick does blow? I'm shocked, shocked I say. Actually no , it makes perfect sense

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 25, 2024 02:49 PM (FxDm7)

225 Tell me how much it costs America for all of the ER visits and other medical care that these illegals consume. And just for shits and giggles, add in the cost of policing and incarceration.

I'll bet it dwarfs the theoretical increase in food production costs.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


It goes well beyond that. Millions of Americans are on welfare because those jobs were taken at below minimum wage. Then, add in the free or almost free housing, and the $2,000 per month in food stamps that more than two thirds of illegals are getting.

We are paying more than twice the cost by keeping Americans on welfare and subsidizing illegals. It is just that the employers aren't paying it directly - we taxpayers are.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 25, 2024 02:49 PM (lTGtQ)

226 Actually Feb 23 2021 would have been the day NATO should have deployed into Ukraine. 💩 tin didn't think they had the balls to face off against him. It came as a surprise to poo Tin that the corrupt Ukrainians got a spine. However winning is elusive to all the parties.

I figure with the depletion of Russian armor ( and aircraft) that there's not much left. A solid push by Western armies and Russia is out of Ukraine.

The problem is obvious: will Russia go nuclear....to try to survive in Ukraine or just to get revenge.

Posted by: torabora at November 25, 2024 02:49 PM (CpPSJ)

227 175 >>BREAKING: France and England reportedly now in talks to deploy troops to Ukraine if Trump withdraws military aid.
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I don't think Putin wants all of Europe...
but, if they are going to roll out the Red Carpet?
Posted by: garrett
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Like the man said, (paraphrasing) - just wait until Germany withdraws social services to pay for building tanks.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at November 25, 2024 02:49 PM (om3Wy)

228 >>> 184 AFAIK we get no benefit from illegal alien slaves at our house. I've never paid anyone to clean my home or mow my lawn. Frankly, it's an icky thought. Probably my right wing sensibilities.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 25, 2024 02:45 PM (w6EFb)

My neighbor here in TX has been mowing my lawn - I think he enjoys any power equipment - but I hope to replace him with sheeps starting next year.

I feel the same way about having someone clean my house, I guess I'm weird too.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 25, 2024 02:50 PM (KcwUg)

229 and right on time, cbs news reports:

Unlawful crossings at the U.S.-Mexico border are on track to drop to a new low for the Biden administration in November, according to internal Customs and Border Protection figures obtained by CBS News.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 25, 2024 02:50 PM (CWTWj)

230 Americans are about to learn how to
-maintain their own lawns
-clean their own house
-make home repairs themselves
-grow a home garden

Everyone nostalgic for the 1950s might not realize what that actually entails.


I do the first three things. I don't have a garden, so by definition I don't have illegals doing it either.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 25, 2024 02:50 PM (2ocoG)

231 194 BREAKING: A senior Biden administration official is reportedly ready to present evidence suggesting the cocaine found in the White House was linked to Barack Obama, not Hunter Biden.
Reports allege it was left by Obama during a visit to the White House.

-
I'm willing to suspend my disbelief on this.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at November 25, 2024 02:46 PM (L/fGl)

— —

If that’s true then that is one plot twist I didn’t see coming.

Although, it is totally on brand for O.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 25, 2024 02:50 PM (6ydKt)

232 You know who really hates illegal immigrants?

Legal immigrants.

That's why Trump scored so well with Hispanics this time around.

The only people who want illegal immigrants are overpaid soyboy beta males who can't do anything around the house and need to hire cheap day laborers to do anything involving muscles.

Posted by: zombie at November 25, 2024 02:50 PM (pMi6S)

233 I will be merciful.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at November 25, 2024


***
Merciful AND quick!

Posted by: Tom "The Gorn" Homan at November 25, 2024 02:50 PM (J2vNu)

234 Remember when some "refugees" to Britain literally cut a soldier into pieces on the street?

Oh and isn't Britain the country that is about to steal its farmer's lands to pay for the upkeep on their "refugees"? Where the hell are they going to get the money to fight a war overseas AND pay their refugees to kill British people at home?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2024 02:50 PM (oZhjI)

235 For all you Joe & Mika fans

Mika has left Twitter for Bluesky....

Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 25, 2024 02:50 PM (TGPs7)

236 Late 60's/early 70's it was $2 front, $3 for the back, and included hand edging with manual clippers.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 25, 2024 02:46 PM (UE7n4)
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Yep. And, the idiot posting that "1950's lawncare" nonsense is way too young and ignorant to remember kids earned money that way growing up.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 25, 2024 02:50 PM (tT6L1)

237 What Mexico has done to accommodate this 4 year invasion is nothing less than an act of war, in my opinion. It should be dealt with harshly. Peacefully, but harshly.



Pffffft. Twenty five mile wide DMZ inside Mexico to the US border. Free fire zone. Nothing moves inside it or it is expeditiously eradicated.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 25, 2024 02:50 PM (UE7n4)

238 I dunno. I see Obama as more of a designer-drug abuser.

Posted by: Paco at November 25, 2024 02:51 PM (njExo)

239 196 BREAKING: France and England reportedly now in talks to deploy troops to Ukraine if Trump withdraws military aid.
Posted by: Mister Ghost

Commies fighting Russians.

Who was it that said "I hope both sides lose"?

Posted by: Auspex at November 25, 2024 02:51 PM (j4U/Z)

240 BREAKING: France and England reportedly now in talks to deploy troops to Ukraine if Trump withdraws military aid.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 25, 2024 02:39 PM (TGPs7)
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The french have nice rifles, never shot and only dropped once.

The English have only shot their rifles four times, the number of rounds that military gives them on deployment.

My money says that neither France nor England deploys troops this is a bluff and Trump will call that bluff.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at November 25, 2024 02:51 PM (17s+e)

241 I'm not. No way that was obolo's. That was 100% Hunter.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 25, 2024 02:48 PM (UE7n4)

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I think Kamala is a possible candidate.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 25, 2024 02:51 PM (jyAD3)

242 BREAKING: A senior Biden administration official is reportedly ready to present evidence suggesting the cocaine found in the White House was linked to Barack Obama, not Hunter Biden.
Reports allege it was left by Obama during a visit to the White House.


Maybe that's why O looks so shitty. It's not actually the AIDS, it's the Peruvian marching powder.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 25, 2024 02:51 PM (2ocoG)

243 I think AOC is kind of cute when she fake cries. Opinion may vary.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at November 25, 2024 02:46 PM (kTd/k)

We still need to see her tits before she goes.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at November 25, 2024 02:51 PM (ufFY8)

244 If Trump deports all the illegal aliens, and given the exodus from California the past few years, how many congressional seats will California have to give up in the House of Representatives?

Posted by: Dave's not here, man at November 25, 2024 02:51 PM (raPis)

245 >>I never got an allowance for it.


Last house we lived in we built.
The pile of trees we had, after clearing the Lot was bigger than the house.
I spent every day for 2 years; cutting, splitting, and stacking wood.
The woodpile was just under 1/4 mile long, 6 feet tall and 3 rows deep.
Dad didn't even say 'Thanks'.

Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2024 02:52 PM (z/jjr)

246 239 196 BREAKING: France and England reportedly now in talks to deploy troops to Ukraine if Trump withdraws military aid.
Posted by: Mister Ghost


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So the people of France and England want to go to war with Russia in Ukraine.

Dumb.Asses.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 25, 2024 02:52 PM (jyAD3)

247 Biden's minions are repaying Obama for running a palace coup against Joe, with the cocaine actually belongs to Obama line.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 25, 2024 02:52 PM (tT6L1)

248 Obama gives new meaning to

"Driving that train, high on cocaine"

Posted by: ... at November 25, 2024 02:52 PM (12v8J)

249 >>> 226 Actually Feb 23 2021 would have been the day NATO should have deployed into Ukraine. 💩 tin didn't think they had the balls to face off against him. It came as a surprise to poo Tin that the corrupt Ukrainians got a spine. However winning is elusive to all the parties.

I figure with the depletion of Russian armor ( and aircraft) that there's not much left. A solid push by Western armies and Russia is out of Ukraine.

The problem is obvious: will Russia go nuclear....to try to survive in Ukraine or just to get revenge.
Posted by: torabora at November 25, 2024 02:49 PM (CpPSJ)

I'm not terribly convinced the Brits and French can provide this. Or for that matter, our current transified military, although hopefully OrangeManBad can change this...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 25, 2024 02:52 PM (KcwUg)

250 ...a part of every day, for 2 years.

Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2024 02:52 PM (z/jjr)

251 The Vigilant Fox 5@VigilantFox
NEW: Whoopi Goldberg unexpectedly SHUTS DOWN co-host's attempt to fearmonger about Trump before he even takes office.
ANA NAVARRO: “I'm not going to wait and see. I mean, this guy has told us he's a retribution. He's going to be a dictator.”
WHOOPI GOLDBERG: “There's nothing to be done until you know what you're fighting. Pissing in the wind doesn't help—you just get a wet face.”
ANA NAVARRO: “What I'm saying is I have no false expectations that at 78, he's going to, all of a sudden, turn into another human being. I spent weeks telling people that he was apocalyptic. I'm not going to change.”
WHOOPI GOLDBERG: “You lose credibility in many different ways. If you don't know what you're talking about and you accuse him of something, then they're going to blow it back. That's why I say we need to wait and see.”

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Don't worry, Whoopsie. There's no way you could lose credibility. You ain't got none.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at November 25, 2024 02:52 PM (L/fGl)

252 The worst yard job I had as a kid was in early March, when the snow had all melted, and my Mom sent me outside with a shovel to pick up all the frozen dog turds that our mutt had left under the snow.

Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2024 02:52 PM (v6JzV)

253 There's an economics professor at the University of Michigan who says that it would be far more efficient if the American professional class used a lot more servants.

The left is running around saying the only answer for AI/automation taking a bunch of jobs is UBI.

But honestly this guy has a better answer. Lower the costs of employment/living by reducing government and let a lawyer hire an American born cook or driver or whatever if he wants.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2024 02:53 PM (oZhjI)

254 If Trump deports all the illegal aliens, and given the exodus from California the past few years, how many congressional seats will California have to give up in the House of Representatives?
Posted by: Dave's not here, man at November 25, 2024 02:51 PM (raPis)

Well, they have 52. I suppose somewhere between 15 and 25?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at November 25, 2024 02:53 PM (VNX3d)

255 My neighbor here in TX has been mowing my lawn - I think he enjoys any power equipment - but I hope to replace him with sheeps starting next year.

I feel the same way about having someone clean my house,
I guess I'm weird too.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket


Pro tip? Don't use sheep in the house. They drop pellets everywhere.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 25, 2024 02:53 PM (UE7n4)

256 244 If Trump deports all the illegal aliens, and given the exodus from California the past few years, how many congressional seats will California have to give up in the House of Representatives?
Posted by: Dave's not here, man at November 25, 2024 02:51 PM (raPis)

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The Census Bureau admitted 3 years ago that it botched the 2020 census.

CA should have lost between 2 and 3 more seats. IL and NY should have lost another each. Something like 17 seats were misappropriated.

And that's with the counting of illegals.

If Republicans own the executive in 2030, President Vance (or whoever) must force through the change to prevent the errors from 2020 and to not count illegals.

CA could lose 9 seats at once.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 25, 2024 02:53 PM (GBKbO)

257 Unlawful crossings at the U.S.-Mexico border are on track to drop to a new low for the Biden administration in November, according to internal Customs and Border Protection figures obtained by CBS News.
Posted by: gnats local 678

But what about the Border Bill that Trump blocked?

Posted by: ... at November 25, 2024 02:53 PM (12v8J)

258 I would like to see a change of "business as usual" and have Trumps DOJ start arresting and prosecuting those actually breaking the law.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 25, 2024 02:53 PM (WsJuq)

259 247 Biden's minions are repaying Obama for running a palace coup against Joe, with the cocaine actually belongs to Obama line.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 25, 2024 02:52 PM (tT6L1)

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100%

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 25, 2024 02:53 PM (jyAD3)

260 Putin wasn't surprised when Ukranians fought back, they did last time when he invaded an area with unmarked tanks. What changed was that the entire western world decided to flood Ukraine with weapons, "advisors" and money this time.

I've seen reports that Britain has more political prisoners in jail then Russia does.

Britain has jailed like 30 times more people for social media posts than Russia. Its a totalitarian state, it is not a place to move to now.

A woman in 2021 got the Wuhan Flu, which complicated an illness she already had. The National Health Service wrote her off: no cure, die quietly. Her family wanted to try an experimental treatment outside the UK. The NHS called her insane and took them to court to stop this. The judge agreed, and further, took her passport away to stop her from trying to get treatment.

They passed a law that makes it a thought crime to merely pray silently outside an abortion clinic.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 25, 2024 02:54 PM (RsS92)

261 So the people of France and England want to go to war with Russia in Ukraine.

TBH the citizens of France and England have very little input in who gets to rule them - like the inner cities here in the US.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2024 02:54 PM (oZhjI)

262 Americans are about to learn how to
-maintain their own lawns
-clean their own house
-make home repairs themselves
-grow a home garden


I mowed my (or my Dad's) lawn for 50 years. I made almost all home repairs until a few years ago. We have a cleaning service now, but certainly didn't when we were younger and had kids. I spend much of my free time landscaping the yard or my church grounds.

I make no apologies for hiring someone to do stuff once I hit 29. I earned it, and I have the money.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 25, 2024 02:54 PM (xCA6C)

263 225 Tell me how much it costs America for all of the ER visits and other medical care that these illegals consume. And just for shits and giggles, add in the cost of policing and incarceration.

I'll bet it dwarfs the theoretical increase in food production costs.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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Farmers can concentrate on healthier food not having to produce as much. How much of our food production goes into federally funded food consumption? 12 to 25 million less mouths to feed.
Oh, strain on the electric grid diminishes too.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at November 25, 2024 02:54 PM (om3Wy)

264 Regarding the tweet fear mongering about having to do your own home repair - it always boils down to: “But who will pick the cotton?”

Posted by: Lizzy at November 25, 2024 02:54 PM (Hkcdp)

265 I wonder if the Obama's were flying high on the booger sugar when Big Mike drowned their mouthy chef.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 25, 2024 02:54 PM (7oYYI)

266 and right on time, cbs news reports:

Unlawful crossings at the U.S.-Mexico border are on track to drop to a new low for the Biden administration in November, according to internal Customs and Border Protection figures obtained by CBS News.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 25, 2024 02:50 PM (CWTWj)


Hail Trump.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 25, 2024 02:55 PM (aD39U)

267
I think that was a fairly common architectural feature of the time, since there was no AC. As you know, DC in the summer is pretty stifling.
Posted by: Archimedes


No AC in DC? I'm thunderstruck!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 25, 2024 02:55 PM (63Dwl)

268 252 The worst yard job I had as a kid was in early March, when the snow had all melted, and my Mom sent me outside with a shovel to pick up all the frozen dog turds that our mutt had left under the snow.
Posted by: Bulg at November

And what is funny is while the left is crying the blues about losing cheap help, the void gets filled by entrepreneurs. Enter Doody Calls.

Posted by: Piper at November 25, 2024 02:55 PM (p4NUW)

269 Hey, how about France and England pay the price for Blackrock's 250 billion scam in Ukraine.

Better than our men and women doing it.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 25, 2024 02:55 PM (jyAD3)

270 The house I grew up in sat on two lots, so our yard was huge. Sometimes it would take me two days to mow it.

And then I got to rake up all the mowed grass.

And I never got an allowance for it.

Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2024 02:49 PM (v6JzV)

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Until the wifey got rid of lots of rocks in the yard (3/4-acre) and splurged for a nice new gas-powered lawn mower (with forward-moving wheel-assist), for about a decade I'd spend all three days of the Memorial Day holiday weed-eating it -- much to the displeasure of my lower back.

Posted by: ShainS -- We shot them under DOD Directive 5240.01 at November 25, 2024 02:55 PM (/YFXY)

271 I feel the same way about having someone clean my house, I guess I'm weird too.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 25, 2024 02:50 PM (KcwUg)

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I did have a company clean my house for a couple of years (no illegals, all young American women). Mostly because there were four adults living in the house and I got tired of working full time and being the only one who gave a shit if the house was clean. Since I've been working fewer hours and we have one less person in the house I'm back to doing it myself.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 25, 2024 02:55 PM (DRSnL)

272 They arrested that town/county clerk in Kentucky (I forget the lady’s name) who refused to issue marriage licenses to homosexual couples.

As far as I’m concerned, the left chose this hill to die on almost a decade ago.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 25, 2024 02:46 PM (6ydKt)


They also jailed an election worker in Colorado who attempted to prevent cheating. She knew the election officials planned to "lose" some important information so she made a backup copy.

Posted by: Emmie at November 25, 2024 02:56 PM (9b91n)

273 >>> 255
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Pro tip? Don't use sheep in the house. They drop pellets everywhere.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 25, 2024 02:53 PM (UE7n4)

LOL

I cannot believe how many people I see on the intertubes who bring bottle baby goats or sheeps into the house and then let them run around instead of keeping them in the crate or tub or whatever. They are livestock, they cannot be house broken.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 25, 2024 02:56 PM (KcwUg)

274 But honestly this guy has a better answer. Lower the costs of employment/living by reducing government and let a lawyer hire an American born cook or driver or whatever if he wants.
Posted by: 18-1

Paying SS, FICA, state unemployment, etc on the American would not be cheaper than a 14 yr old Guatamalan sex slave.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 25, 2024 02:56 PM (UE7n4)

275 Oh and isn't Britain the country that is about to steal its farmer's lands to pay for the upkeep on their "refugees"? Where the hell are they going to get the money to fight a war overseas AND pay their refugees to kill British people at home?

Posted by: 18-1


Saw a video by the Lotus Eaters this weekend. The amount of money the UK plans to raise by taking away farmers' land is equal to the amount of money they are sending to Kenya to support local farming there.

Makes perfect sense.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 25, 2024 02:56 PM (lTGtQ)

276 The Biden Administration is considering sending nukes to Ukraine.

Several officials even suggested that Mr. Biden could return nuclear weapons to Ukraine that were taken from it after the fall of the Soviet Union. That would be an instant and enormous deterrent. But such a step would be complicated and have serious implications.

You think?
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 25, 2024 02:29 PM (uxCna)

Weren't they returned to Russia as part of the non proliferation deal? We were cooperating in those days. I'm not sure why the US would even have them or why they would have saved them.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 25, 2024 02:56 PM (n7h9X)

277 I have hired a house cleaner once or twice in my life. Was never very impressed.

And TBH if I went to clean someone else's house I don't think I could clean it as well as mine anyway

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2024 02:56 PM (oZhjI)

278 Late 60's/early 70's it was $2 front, $3 for the back, and included hand edging with manual clippers.
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Yep. And manual clippers sucked.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 25, 2024 02:56 PM (jFCkp)

279 I make no apologies for hiring someone to do stuff once I hit 29. I earned it, and I have the money.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 25, 2024 02:54 PM (xCA6C)

No argument from me. The advantage of tossing the illegals is that the labor market will no longer be as distorted. Some companies were willing to break the law, but some companies weren't, and that is an awful way for a labor market to function.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 25, 2024 02:56 PM (d9fT1)

280 The military has the concept of the "kill box." Trump should employ the concept for immigration. Funnel illegals into sanctuaries, forming a "deportation box," making it easier to round them up when the time comes.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at November 25, 2024 02:57 PM (paSBy)

281 I think they're saying that farmers will have to pay more to have their crops picked, so food prices will rise, and that is correct. It's a different question whether or not that makes overall economic sense.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 25, 2024 02:48 PM (xCA6C)

I'd be happy if we just got rid of the immigrants that came in the last 4 years. Who was taking care of the farms 4 years ago? There was no labor shortage I knew of.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 25, 2024 02:57 PM (wyMQY)

282 There's more than cost involved in home gardening, though. Its probably not more expensive to grow your own tomatos than to buy them, but the flavor of home grown is 900000% better than store bought ones. I get that its a bit of labor (like 10 minutes a day in your garden outside), but that cost is pretty minimal.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 25, 2024 02:49 PM (RsS92)

Maybe if you start the 'maters from seed. If you buy plants to set out in the Spring, you will be eating some very expensive tomatoes.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 25, 2024 02:57 PM (IErdF)

283 When I had mom living here, I got a service to help take care of her, and they did some housework. I admit that was really nice, it gave me a chance to rest a few hours and the house looked good. But I cannot possibly justify that cost, and honestly one ought to care for our own property as best we are able.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 25, 2024 02:57 PM (RsS92)

284 My dad used to wait until the hottest day of the week, then declare the yard needed to be mowed.

I despised cutting grass.

I despise it now. But now I gets to sit on my fat ass and ride around on the tractor, while solving all of the planet's problems. With a drink holder.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 25, 2024 02:57 PM (Q4IgG)

285 After reading this about Homan, the diamond in my wife's ring is the 2nd hardest thing in my house right now.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at November 25, 2024 02:58 PM (k1E2D)

286 Saw a video by the Lotus Eaters this weekend. The amount of money the UK plans to raise by taking away farmers' land is equal to the amount of money they are sending to Kenya to support local farming there.

Makes perfect sense.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 25, 2024 02:56 PM (lTGtQ)

And of course it is impossible that UK farmers will develop LLCs or the equivalent to dodge inheritance taxes by having the "owner" never die.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 25, 2024 02:58 PM (n7h9X)

287 Last house we lived in we built.
The pile of trees we had, after clearing the Lot was bigger than the house.
I spent every day for 2 years; cutting, splitting, and stacking wood.
The woodpile was just under 1/4 mile long, 6 feet tall and 3 rows deep.
Dad didn't even say 'Thanks'.
Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2024 02:52 PM (z/jjr)

Gnarly

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 25, 2024 02:58 PM (NtVYv)

288 262
I make no apologies for hiring someone to do stuff once I hit 29. I earned it, and I have the money.
Posted by: Archimedes at

I have someone who cleans the house every other week. She is on her way now, as a matter of fact. She is not an illegal, and she sings gospel while she cleans. It’s awesome.

Posted by: Piper at November 25, 2024 02:58 PM (p4NUW)

289 I think they're saying that farmers will have to pay more to have their crops picked, so food prices will rise, and that is correct. It's a different question whether or not that makes overall economic sense.

The people that tell me there has been no inflation over the last 4 years tell me I should be outraged I'd have to pay another nickel for a head of lettuce if Trump sent the illegals home.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2024 02:58 PM (oZhjI)

290 Wow, we get to go back to the 50's? When a Man could support a family and buy a house on a single salary? When we sent our kids to church, and made them do their homework?

When being a single parent was because Dad died in the War, not because Mom was an unmarried slut or threw Dad to the Curb?

When they served REAL Meals on Airplanes? We had big cars with V8s? When food was MUCH more natural and unprocessed then now?

OK... I'm in.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 25, 2024 02:58 PM (QAkQ3)

291 >>>Britain has jailed like 30 times more people for social media posts than Russia. Its a totalitarian state, it is not a place to move to now.
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Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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May they find a special place for Ellen DeGenerate and her 'significant' other.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at November 25, 2024 02:58 PM (om3Wy)

292 Americans are about to learn how to
-maintain their own lawns
-clean their own house
-make home repairs themselves
-grow a home garden

Everyone nostalgic for the 1950s might not realize what that actually entails.


Those who partake in the hiring for these services are of the laptop and professional class. In other words, the upper middle class and higher who are usually kollige educated and hate their smelly blue collar fellow Americans. Not all, but enough to make this generality, so if the costs of living well go up a little, it's fine with those of us with a mower and snow thrower in the shed.
And a tool box that includes a filter wrench in the garage.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 25, 2024 02:58 PM (FCbAQ)

293 The thing is, IF we had a secure, controlled border and a no-nonsense immigration system, THEN we could have a well-regulated guest-worker program that both provided labor where needed AND protected the rights of workers. We can't have that within the current state of chaos.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 25, 2024 02:59 PM (9yUzE)

294 He needed instructions on running the Push Broom?
Posted by: garrett


To be fair, there is a technique to it.

It's one that most people can figure out after running one and actually observing how effective their efforts are, of course, but there is a technique.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 25, 2024 02:59 PM (hB7mE)

295 Maybe if you start the 'maters from seed. If you buy plants to set out in the Spring, you will be eating some very expensive tomatoes.

However, the local wildlife will be very happy.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 25, 2024 02:59 PM (xCA6C)

296 My 13th birthday gift was a Craftsman Push Mower.

Wouldn't have been so bad, except Dad took me to look at Road Bikes the week before.

Much disappointment when the Bianchi I imagined I was getting turned out to be a lawnmower.

Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2024 02:59 PM (z/jjr)

297 290 Wow, we get to go back to the 50's? When a Man could support a family and buy a house on a single salary? When we sent our kids to church, and made them do their homework?

When being a single parent was because Dad died in the War, not because Mom was an unmarried slut or threw Dad to the Curb?

When they served REAL Meals on Airplanes? We had big cars with V8s? When food was MUCH more natural and unprocessed then now?

OK... I'm in.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 25, 2024 02:58 PM (QAkQ3)

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Yeah, but you'll have to figure out how to replace a garbage disposal on your own. The horror.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 25, 2024 02:59 PM (GBKbO)

298 I think they're saying that farmers will have to pay more to have their crops picked, so food prices will rise, and that is correct. It's a different question whether or not that makes overall economic sense.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 25, 2024 02:48 PM (xCA6C)

I'd be happy if we just got rid of the immigrants that came in the last 4 years. Who was taking care of the farms 4 years ago? There was no labor shortage I knew of.
Posted by: Tom Servo


We have enough farm workers visas.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 25, 2024 02:59 PM (UE7n4)

299
I cannot believe how many people I see on the intertubes who bring bottle baby goats or sheeps into the house and then let them run around instead of keeping them in the crate or tub or whatever. They are livestock, they cannot be house broken.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 25, 2024 02:56 PM (KcwUg)

I know a guy that has a wild hog he hand raised at his office, he has a huge doggy door and a room filled with hay for the hog. It's huge. If you pull up in your truck outside the hog comes running up to greet you. It's nuts.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 25, 2024 02:59 PM (1szDw)

300 Back when we lived in a nice neighborhood in Southern Califzuela, we were pretty much the only people on our block who did their own landscaping.

Illegals did all the rest -- employing the ubiquitous leaf-blower, of course)!while blasting their shitty repetitive "music" -- but I did admire them for at least working, and working hard.

Posted by: ShainS -- We shot them under DOD Directive 5240.01 at November 25, 2024 03:00 PM (/YFXY)

301 I have been checking British threads about the coming land seizures.

The argument from the pro side mostly boil down to two things

1) The farmers have money and we want it
2) The farmers voted for the Tories and/or Brexit and therefore we have a right to hurt them

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2024 03:00 PM (oZhjI)

302 Removing the 20 million illegal invaders off of EBT will lower the price of food for Americans.

Fun Fact: In June of 2021 the Biden-Harris junta almost doubled the EBT money. Before inflation really clobbered groceries. They knew what they were doing and shielded the illegal invaders.... and made food inflation that much worse.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at November 25, 2024 03:00 PM (17s+e)

303 amazing how so many on the left seem surprised that all of their lawfare is falling apart now.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 25, 2024 03:00 PM (wyMQY)

304 I despise it now. But now I gets to sit on my fat ass and ride around on the tractor, while solving all of the planet's problems. With a drink holder.
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Sweet. And when you run out of beer you drive your mower to pickup moar beer! I've seen this moar than once.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 25, 2024 03:00 PM (jFCkp)

305 Why the hell would the Brits and Frogs want to into a land war over the Donbass and Crimea?

Those areas have effectively been under Russian sovereignty since Catherine the Great.

Yes, Ukraine is sovereign now, but is getting into a dangerous conflict with Russia over Russian populated land really worth the effort?

Even if they manage to take the regions back that Russia occupied they’d have to deport millions of Russian-speaking Russians from the area just to prevent an insurgency and another civil war in a few years.

But no, let’s have a pissing contest in a meat grinder against a nuclear power.

Kier and Emmanuel need to blow each other instead of trying to blow up the world.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 25, 2024 03:01 PM (6ydKt)

306 amazing how so many on the left seem surprised that all of their lawfare is falling apart now.

"WE'VE GOT HIM NOW!!"

Posted by: Libtard Victory Cry ssince January 2017 at November 25, 2024 03:01 PM (dCxaZ)

307 When being a single parent was because Dad died in the War, not because Mom was an unmarried slut or threw Dad to the Curb

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 25

Or Dad walked out never to be seen again….

Posted by: Piper at November 25, 2024 03:01 PM (p4NUW)

308 Oh no, Muffy! Those brutish Republicans are freeing our slaves agin.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 25, 2024 03:02 PM (wBaIH)

309 Someone tell Director Homan that Jack Smith will be available to prosecute the Resistance.

Posted by: torabora at November 25, 2024 02:31 PM (CpPSJ)

>>>Special Counsel Jack Smith on Monday moved to dismiss the election interference case against President-elect Donald Trump, citing longstanding Justice Department policy barring the prosecution of a sitting president while insisting that the government "stands fully behind" the merits of the charges.

Dude is a grade A traitor.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 25, 2024 03:02 PM (i24o9)

310 >>> 297

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Yeah, but you'll have to figure out how to replace a garbage disposal on your own. The horror.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 25, 2024 02:59 PM (GBKbO)

Even *I* have done that.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 25, 2024 03:02 PM (KcwUg)

311 I despise it now. But now I gets to sit on my fat ass and ride around on the tractor, while solving all of the planet's problems. With a drink holder.
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Sweet. And when you run out of beer you drive your mower to pickup moar beer! I've seen this moar than once.
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 25, 2024 03:00 PM (jFCkp)

Just don't get pulled over for drunk driving on your lawn tractor....

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at November 25, 2024 03:02 PM (VNX3d)

312 Forcing companies to hire actual citizens will raise prices... but the overall lower cost of having fewer illegals should balance that out. The problem is that most of the costs are governmental, and they're spending money they aren't getting from taxes. So basically at best it means less debt.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 25, 2024 03:02 PM (RsS92)

313 The people that tell me there has been no inflation over the last 4 years tell me I should be outraged I'd have to pay another nickel for a head of lettuce if Trump sent the illegals home.

Posted by: 18-1


The necessary deflation of the money supply (which was the actual cause of inflation) will more than offset any increase in wages for bringing in the crops.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 25, 2024 03:02 PM (lTGtQ)

314 The Obama cocaine thing, true or not, certainly feels like another shot across Kalorama’s bow from Joe and DOCTOR JILL.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 25, 2024 03:02 PM (3cXfB)

315 >>> Prosecuted for Harboring Illegal Aliens

Ef that shiite man!
Send in snatch and bag teams to send them to Bolivia foir renditions. Maybe in a few years charged with Insurrection.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 25, 2024 03:03 PM (/lPRQ)

316 >>>Special Counsel Jack Smith on Monday moved to dismiss the election interference case against President-elect Donald Trump, citing longstanding Justice Department policy barring the prosecution of a sitting president while insisting that the government "stands fully behind" the merits of the charges.

Merits of the charges ? If you believe that why dismiss ?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 25, 2024 03:03 PM (IyPmt)

317 WHOOPI GOLDBERG: “You lose credibility in many different ways. If you don't know what you're talking about and you accuse him of something, then they're going to blow it back. That's why I say we need to wait and see.”

Looks like all those legal notices are having a salutary effect.

Who knew that Whoopi would be the teachable one?

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 25, 2024 03:03 PM (hB7mE)

318 >>> 299
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I know a guy that has a wild hog he hand raised at his office, he has a huge doggy door and a room filled with hay for the hog. It's huge. If you pull up in your truck outside the hog comes running up to greet you. It's nuts.
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 25, 2024 02:59 PM (1szDw)

That's funny and sad at the same time, because how much bacon could that have been?!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 25, 2024 03:03 PM (KcwUg)

319 I don't do any home repairs on my own, because I suck when it comes to using tools.

Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2024 03:03 PM (v6JzV)

320 >>Or Dad walked out never to be seen again…


He's just going to get some milk.

Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2024 03:04 PM (z/jjr)

321 317 WHOOPI GOLDBERG: “You lose credibility in many different ways. If you don't know what you're talking about and you accuse him of something, then they're going to blow it back. That's why I say we need to wait and see.”

Looks like all those legal notices are having a salutary effect.

Who knew that Whoopi would be the teachable one?
Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 25, 2024 03:03 PM (hB7mE)

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Reading 4 legal notices on one show must have had an effect.

Also, is she walking back any of the insanity she's been espousing this entire election season about what she said Trump would do?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 25, 2024 03:04 PM (GBKbO)

322 So the people of France and England want to go to war with Russia in Ukraine.

TBH the citizens of France and England have very little input in who gets to rule them - like the inner cities here in the US.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2024 02:54 PM (oZhjI)

France has a pretend election so the deep state knows exactly how to steal the real one.

England can change 'presidents' without an election at all.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 25, 2024 03:04 PM (n7h9X)

323 Or Dad walked out never to be seen again….
Posted by: Piper at November 25, 2024 03:01 PM (p4NUW)

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He went out to get some milk. Should be back any minute now...

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 25, 2024 03:04 PM (DRSnL)

324 The worst yard job I had as a kid was in early March, when the snow had all melted, and my Mom sent me outside with a shovel to pick up all the frozen dog turds that our mutt had left under the snow.
Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2024 02:52 PM (v6JzV)

Not all of those were from Fido.

Posted by: Joe Shit The Ragman, Neighborhood Hobo at November 25, 2024 03:04 PM (Y5VD5)

325 Looks like all those legal notices are having a salutary effect.

Who knew that Whoopi would be the teachable one?


If she gets fired or laid off, who else would hire her? She's got to make this work.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 25, 2024 03:04 PM (xCA6C)

326 Why the hell would the Brits and Frogs want to into a land war over the Donbass and Crimea?


Posted by: SpeakingOf




Because they owe it to Blackrock. I'm not joking.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 25, 2024 03:04 PM (lTGtQ)

327 >>Much disappointment when the Bianchi I imagined I was getting turned out to be a lawnmower.

When my folks had the farm it took me an entire day to cut the grass and I mean sunup till sundown.

First the tractor with the sickle bar. Then the riding mover. Then the push mover and then the weed whip.

I hated lawn day.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 25, 2024 03:04 PM (LkLld)

328 310
Even *I* have done that.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November

I have a brand new kitchen faucet I need to get installed. J, bless him, is worthless when it comes to things like this. I wonder if I could do it, because hiring a handyman for something so small is proving difficult.

Posted by: Piper at November 25, 2024 03:04 PM (p4NUW)

329 A woman in 2021 got the Wuhan Flu, which complicated an illness she already had. The National Health Service wrote her off: no cure, die quietly. Her family wanted to try an experimental treatment outside the UK. The NHS called her insane and took them to court to stop this.

Their second mistake was telling the government they were going to try an experimental treatment outside the UK.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 25, 2024 03:05 PM (hB7mE)

330 He's just going to get some milk.

Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2024 03:04 PM (z/jjr)

Funny story. My dad actually did that.

Posted by: ... at November 25, 2024 03:05 PM (12v8J)

331 Dammit, Garrett!

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 25, 2024 03:05 PM (DRSnL)

332 Weren't they returned to Russia as part of the non proliferation deal? We were cooperating in those days. I'm not sure why the US would even have them or why they would have saved them.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 25, 2024 02:56 PM (n7h9X)

IIRC, all of them were dismantled, and the nuclear material reprocessed into reactor fuel.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 25, 2024 03:05 PM (IErdF)

333 >>>Special Counsel Jack Smith on Monday moved to dismiss the election interference case against President-elect Donald Trump, citing longstanding Justice Department policy barring the prosecution of a sitting president while insisting that the government "stands fully behind" the merits of the charges.

Merits of the charges ? If you believe that why dismiss ?
Posted by: It's me donna at November 25, 2024 03:03 PM (IyPmt)

Because this government is going away in 2 months to be replaced by Trumps.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 25, 2024 03:05 PM (n7h9X)

334 Yep. And manual clippers sucked.
Posted by: Pudinhead

Manual edgers sucked worse.

Posted by: Auspex at November 25, 2024 03:06 PM (j4U/Z)

335 293 The thing is, IF we had a secure, controlled border and a no-nonsense immigration system, THEN we could have a well-regulated guest-worker program that both provided labor where needed AND protected the rights of workers. We can't have that within the current state of chaos.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 25, 2024 02:59 PM (9yUzE)

the Guest worker program still exists. Its never changed.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 25, 2024 03:06 PM (QAkQ3)

336 They arrested that town/county clerk in Kentucky (I forget the lady’s name) who refused to issue marriage licenses to homosexual couples.

As far as I’m concerned, the left chose this hill to die on almost a decade ago.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 25, 2024 02:46 PM (6ydKt)

My hazy recollection of that incident is that she wasn't against issuing the licenses per se, but that it was still specifically illegal to do so in Ky and she wanted some official notification from higher up before she did.
In the interim she go in hot water. So really she was punished for trying to do the best legal job she could.
Typical in our current environment.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 25, 2024 03:06 PM (FCbAQ)

337 And we never had riding mowers when I was growing up. Push mowers all the way.

Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2024 03:06 PM (v6JzV)

338 330. Funny story. My dad actually did that.
Posted by: ... at November 25, 2024 03:05 PM (12v8J)

I am sorry. Honestly. Because that sucks and it hurts forever.

Posted by: Piper at November 25, 2024 03:07 PM (p4NUW)

339 318 >>> 299
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I know a guy that has a wild hog he hand raised at his office, he has a huge doggy door and a room filled with hay for the hog. It's huge. If you pull up in your truck outside the hog comes running up to greet you. It's nuts.
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 25, 2024 02:59 PM (1szDw)

That's funny and sad at the same time, because how much bacon could that have been?!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 25, 2024 03:03 PM

He must trap them, he had another one but a neighbor shot it.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 25, 2024 03:07 PM (1szDw)

340 “You lose credibility in many different ways. If you don't know what you're talking about and you accuse him of something, then they're going to blow it back. That's why I say we need to wait and see.”

It is surprising to see Whoopi show some sense after screaming nazi and fascist for 8 months. Its not hard to seem wise compared to the rest of the View though.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 25, 2024 03:07 PM (RsS92)

341 333 >>>Special Counsel Jack Smith on Monday moved to dismiss the election interference case against President-elect Donald Trump, citing longstanding Justice Department policy barring the prosecution of a sitting president while insisting that the government "stands fully behind" the merits of the charges.

Merits of the charges ? If you believe that why dismiss ?
Posted by: It's me donna at November 25, 2024 03:03 PM (IyPmt)

Because this government is going away in 2 months to be replaced by Trumps.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 25, 2024 03:05 PM (n7h9X)

Simpler, because there is no longer an Election to interfere with.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 25, 2024 03:07 PM (QAkQ3)

342 *fistbump*

Posted by: Uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They do not kill at November 25, 2024 03:07 PM (gxokI)

343 I have a brand new kitchen faucet I need to get installed. J, bless him, is worthless when it comes to things like this. I wonder if I could do it, because hiring a handyman for something so small is proving difficult.
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So, Piper, you are looking for someone to fix your pipes?

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 25, 2024 03:07 PM (jFCkp)

344 Have at it Europe, go at each other neck, and hope no one comes to help this time

Posted by: Skip at November 25, 2024 03:07 PM (fwDg9)

345 >>> 328
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I have a brand new kitchen faucet I need to get installed. J, bless him, is worthless when it comes to things like this. I wonder if I could do it, because hiring a handyman for something so small is proving difficult.
Posted by: Piper at November 25, 2024 03:04 PM (p4NUW)

Try a plumber instead?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 25, 2024 03:08 PM (KcwUg)

346 337 And we never had riding mowers when I was growing up. Push mowers all the way.
Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2024 03:06 PM (v6JzV)

Those do a really good job but you have to sharpen the blades. The ones without a motor, right? My grandparents had one of those and their grass was so nice.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 25, 2024 03:08 PM (1szDw)

347 >>I have a brand new kitchen faucet I need to get installed. J, bless him, is worthless when it comes to things like this. I wonder if I could do it, because hiring a handyman for something so small is proving difficult.


It's not a difficult job to do.

First step is putting on a skirt and a low cut bouse...

Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2024 03:08 PM (z/jjr)

348 A woman in 2021 got the Wuhan Flu, which complicated an illness she already had. The National Health Service wrote her off: no cure, die quietly. Her family wanted to try an experimental treatment outside the UK. The NHS called her insane and took them to court to stop this.

Their second mistake was telling the government they were going to try an experimental treatment outside the UK.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 25, 2024 03:05 PM (hB7mE)

They do this with children a LOT. Even if the outside doctor volunteers to do it for no cost. They want their patients to die once they sentence them to death.

I can understand not going nuts due to cost if there is nothing that can be done in their eyes. The not letting the patient escape is monstrous.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 25, 2024 03:08 PM (n7h9X)

349 To be honest, the California economy will implode without illegals working at below-minimum-wage rates.

That's because our minimum wage is now an absurd $18.67/hr in San Francisco, and pretty close to that in most other cities/counties.

If homeowners actually paid this wage to their workers, every little thing would be astronomically expensive. So nearly everyone hires illegals willing to work at lower rats, and then pays them in cash. Otherwise, the economic system is untenable.

The reason the voters are OK with this is that they think the higher minimum wage is a punishment against businesses (who are evil capitalists), but they (the liberal voters themselves) feel that they shouldn't have to be similarly punsihed. So they pass laws to hurt business owners and then flaunt the law themselves.

But with the illegals gone, suddenly they'll all have to pay the actual minimum wage to actual Americans. Which the won't be able to afford.

So everything will come to a standstill.

Except the popcorn industry.

Posted by: zombie at November 25, 2024 03:08 PM (pMi6S)

350 Weren't they returned to Russia as part of the non proliferation deal? We were cooperating in those days. I'm not sure why the US would even have them or why they would have saved them.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 25, 2024 02:56 PM (n7h9X)

Yeah, part of the same deal where we said NATO would not expand...

Oh... Looky....

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 25, 2024 03:08 PM (QAkQ3)

351 The only reason the ukraines gave up the Russian nukes that were on their soil was because they didn't have the arming codes.

Posted by: Chuck C at November 25, 2024 02:31 PM (yOPBE)
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And?

Posted by: Black JEM at November 25, 2024 03:08 PM (GZYu7)

352 And we never had riding mowers when I was growing up. Push mowers all the way.
Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2024 03:06 PM (v6JzV)

Those do a really good job but you have to sharpen the blades. The ones without a motor, right? My grandparents had one of those and their grass was so nice.
Posted by: CaliGirl

No, they were motorized. Gas-powered.

Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2024 03:08 PM (v6JzV)

353 I have no beef against a controlled admittance of farm labor into this country. It was done very until the dems opened the floodgates. I see no reason why it can't be done again.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at November 25, 2024 03:09 PM (g8Ew8)

354 343. -----------
So, Piper, you are looking for someone to fix your pipes?
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 25, 2024 03

Just the faucet, friend. Just the faucet. And I actually mean a faucet. 🤣

Posted by: Piper at November 25, 2024 03:09 PM (p4NUW)

355 I am sorry. Honestly. Because that sucks and it hurts forever.
Posted by: Piper at November 25, 2024 03:07 PM (p4NUW)

Oh man I was just kidding. He did die young though. And my mother makes Joan Crawford look like Tinkerbell.

Posted by: ... at November 25, 2024 03:09 PM (12v8J)

356 Ha, Judge Cedric Simpson ruling on an assault and battery case. Looks like mutual combat, and the judge would find BOTH guilty, but will find the defendant not guilty, because the other guy wasn't charged.

Awesome.


Judges Youtube channel right now, lol.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 25, 2024 03:09 PM (ufFY8)

357 According to Ukraine first Gorka, Trump is going to threaten Russia with US military involvement in they don't agree to US terms. Trump really needs to get past his appointments kissing his ass as a qualifying trait.

Posted by: ryukyu at November 25, 2024 03:09 PM (z/gEl)

358
I have a brand new kitchen faucet I need to get installed. J, bless him, is worthless when it comes to things like this. I wonder if I could do it, because hiring a handyman for something so small is proving difficult.
Posted by: Piper at November 25, 2024 03:04 PM (p4NUW)

Watch a YouTube video on changing a faucet and I bet you could do it. I change the flappers on the toilets myself. That's a lot easier than a faucet though.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 25, 2024 03:10 PM (1szDw)

359 The Aztecs better watch themselves. If they help lose another election for Democrats, the AWFLs will go full Sparta and make them receive mandatory beatings out on the lawn, and so on.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 25, 2024 03:10 PM (7oYYI)

360 I have no beef against a controlled admittance of farm labor into this country. It was done very until the dems opened the floodgates. I see no reason why it can't be done again.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at November 25, 2024 03:09 PM (g8Ew

I live in Farm country... there is no, nor has there been, any lack of available Labor for farmers... even well before the latest border insanity.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 25, 2024 03:10 PM (QAkQ3)

361 354 343. -----------
So, Piper, you are looking for someone to fix your pipes?
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 25, 2024 03

Just the faucet, friend. Just the faucet. And I actually mean a faucet. 🤣
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Does your faucet use cartridges? Cuz, if that's the case, its a pretty easy fix.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 25, 2024 03:10 PM (jFCkp)

362 The not letting the patient escape is monstrous.
Posted by: Oldcat


Yup.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 25, 2024 03:11 PM (hB7mE)

363 Why the hell would the Brits and Frogs want to into a land war over the Donbass and Crimea?


Posted by: SpeakingOf

Maybe they'll draft all the migrants and send them to Ukraine. You know, kill two birds with one stone.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at November 25, 2024 03:11 PM (L/fGl)

364 I was at the gas station today and I had a nice interaction with a stranger. She apparently saw me looking at her dog and decided to chat with me. She brought him over, introduced the dog, and asked if I wanted to pet him. I did. He leaned against me while I pet his neck and asked a couple of questions. I thanked her and finished up getting gas.

Because I work from home, I don't get a lot of casual interactions with people. It was nice.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 25, 2024 03:11 PM (Odg76)

365 296/My 13th birthday gift was a Craftsman Push Mower.

Wouldn't have been so bad, except Dad took me to look at Road Bikes the week before.

Much disappointment when the Bianchi I imagined I was getting turned out to be a lawnmower.
Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2024 02:59 PM (z/jjr)

— —

What did he make you use before he got the lawnmower?
A scythe?

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 25, 2024 03:11 PM (6ydKt)

366 To be honest, the California economy will implode without illegals working at below-minimum-wage rates.

That's because our minimum wage is now an absurd $18.67/hr in San Francisco, and pretty close to that in most other cities/counties.

Posted by: zombie


You are thinking about it from a business owner's perspective. Subtract the costs for welfare being paid to the Americans who lost those jobs, and the costs of putting illegals up in 'free' housing, and the cost of taxpayer paid emergency rooms, and the monthly food stamp payments to all illegals. It is cheaper to hire Americans and throw the illegals out of the country.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 25, 2024 03:11 PM (lTGtQ)

367 >>I have a brand new kitchen faucet I need to get installed. J, bless him, is worthless when it comes to things like this. I wonder if I could do it, because hiring a handyman for something so small is proving difficult.


It's not a difficult job to do.

First step is putting on a skirt and a low cut bouse...
Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2024 03:08 PM (z/jjr)

I've done it myself (without the change of costume) when the old one had some pinholes spraying. It wasn't hard as I recall as long as the fittings in the new one match up and your piping is OK.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 25, 2024 03:12 PM (n7h9X)

368 328 Try a plumber instead?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

Even worse. But I want to change out the shower, too, it just is a want not a need. May need to combine a few things.

Posted by: Piper at November 25, 2024 03:12 PM (p4NUW)

369 >>Watch a YouTube video on changing a faucet and I bet you could do it.


Watch 3. Seriously.
The repetition helps and one of the 3 will make a lot more sense to you than the others.
A different one will be so lame that it will give you confidence.

Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2024 03:12 PM (z/jjr)

370 Piper - the faucet almost definitely came with instructions. They're really simple installations. I'm sure you can do it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 25, 2024 03:12 PM (7oYYI)

371 "Even the Pharos needed Hebrew braceros"

Posted by: Kindltot at November 25, 2024 03:13 PM (D7oie)

372 Inadequately based. I'll fix it for MXM, also known as "Axios for non-communists"

Key Details:
- The border porous to the point of being open
- The incoming administration views a porous border as being a cultural, security, legal and economic risk
- The incoming administration has vowed to take immediate and decisive action on the border, including rigorous border security and mass deportation of illegal aliens
- Various state and local government leaders have indicated displeasure with the incoming administration views and plans, and have vowed to block the incoming administration where possible.

Diving Deeper:
- The incoming administration has informed state and local leaders that if they fuck around, they will find out

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 25, 2024 03:13 PM (HnUIn)

373 >>What did he make you use before he got the lawnmower?


A Franken-Mower that my grandfather built from any number of 'Trash Day' lawnmower carcasses he had laying around.

Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2024 03:13 PM (z/jjr)

374 Also - I know Ace Hardware has a handyman service. You could check with them.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 25, 2024 03:13 PM (7oYYI)

375 Trump should make a deal with mex: close down the migration through Mexico now or when he takes office all illegals will be deported over the border from wence they came.

Posted by: Wardo at November 25, 2024 03:14 PM (162BX)

376 You are thinking about it from a business owner's perspective. Subtract the costs for welfare being paid to the Americans who lost those jobs, and the costs of putting illegals up in 'free' housing, and the cost of taxpayer paid emergency rooms, and the monthly food stamp payments to all illegals

This is all true, to a certain extent, but the problem is that governments won't lower taxes and fees if their costs go down. And the federal costs are spent without taxes funding them, its all just deficit spending.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 25, 2024 03:14 PM (RsS92)

377 So to change the subject slightly: Who do you think is going to be on both the Epstein and Diddy Party lists?

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 25, 2024 03:14 PM (Da7Vv)

378 370 Piper - the faucet almost definitely came with instructions. They're really simple installations. I'm sure you can do it.
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We were not told why she wants a new faucet. We assume it is a leak. We need moar information. She may have took to a new faucet cuz reasons.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 25, 2024 03:14 PM (jFCkp)

379 372 Diving Deeper:
- The incoming administration has informed state and local leaders that if they fuck around, they will find out
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 25, 2024 03:13 PM (HnUIn)

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Then who will fight in our illegal fighting pits?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 25, 2024 03:14 PM (GBKbO)

380 I do not believe that ending federal funding to "sanctuary" cities is using lawfare or punishing people for their politics. I believe it is in the interest of public law and order. Break the law, lose your benefits. The difference is that Trump was prosecuted for NOT breaking the law, but being Trump. Not the same thing at all.

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 25, 2024 03:15 PM (byWhc)

381 BREAKING: France and England reportedly now in talks to deploy troops to Ukraine if Trump withdraws military aid.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 25, 2024 02:39 PM (TGPs7)
______________

So they CAN muster a military force if they really want to.

Dissolve NATO.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 25, 2024 03:15 PM (YqDXo)

382 Ha, Judge Cedric Simpson ruling on an assault and battery case. Looks like mutual combat, and the judge would find BOTH guilty, but will find the defendant not guilty, because the other guy wasn't charged.

Awesome.


Judges Youtube channel right now, lol.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 25, 2024 03:09 PM


Heh. Judge Simpson is great.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 25, 2024 03:15 PM (ZANHd)

383 Also - I know Ace Hardware has a handyman service. You could check with them.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

Not recommended for shelving installation, however.

Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2024 03:15 PM (v6JzV)

384 I cannot believe how many people I see on the intertubes who bring bottle baby goats or sheeps into the house and then let them run around instead of keeping them in the crate or tub or whatever. They are livestock, they cannot be house broken.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

My daughter had two pigs in her home. Not human ones, real live farm pigs. Yes, she's a messed up as one might imagine.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 25, 2024 03:15 PM (WXNFJ)

385 374 Also - I know Ace Hardware has a handyman service. You could check with them.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at

I will open the box and look at the instructions. If they aren’t overwhelming, I may try it.

Posted by: Piper at November 25, 2024 03:15 PM (p4NUW)

386 377 So to change the subject slightly: Who do you think is going to be on both the Epstein and Diddy Party lists?
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 25, 2024 03:14 PM (Da7Vv)

All those dirty fuckers, I presume. The question might read "who isn't?"

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 25, 2024 03:15 PM (byWhc)

387 ICE makes illegals melt. The link lists all the sanctuary insurrection states, counties, and cities. New Mexico's going to be lit up : 21 of its 33 counties and it's three largest cities, Albuquerque, Las cruces, and Santa Fe all have insurrection policies.

Plus New Mexico's Governor announced last week that she plans to contest every single move by the federal government in the, presumably, Hawaiian courts. To emphasize this point, she ordered enough Hawaiian themed judicial robes for the entire country.

https://is.gd/9YtUrB

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at November 25, 2024 03:16 PM (vO42M)

388 Zombie they shoot themselves in the foot and I really don't care. They are dragging the country down as it is.

Posted by: Skip at November 25, 2024 03:16 PM (fwDg9)

389 There's an economics professor at the University of Michigan who says that it would be far more efficient if the American professional class used a lot more servants.

And, yes, he is a very Left-wing Democrat.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 25, 2024 02:45 PM (uxCna)
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Probably true - but it is for a pretty narrow sliver of professionals - who probably already have them. If they have kids - it is a net negative. Kids should be doing the work around the house until they leave for college or go off to be an adult living on their own.

Posted by: Black JEM at November 25, 2024 03:16 PM (GZYu7)

390 322 So the people of France and England want to go to war with Russia in Ukraine.

TBH the citizens of France and England have very little input in who gets to rule them - like the inner cities here in the US.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2024 02:54 PM (oZhjI)

France has a pretend election so the deep state knows exactly how to steal the real one.

England can change 'presidents' without an election at all.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 25, 2024 03:04 PM (n7h9X)

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Really, that's my point. I'd love to see some crazy protests over it.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 25, 2024 03:16 PM (jyAD3)

391 369 >>Watch a YouTube video on changing a faucet and I bet you could do it.


Watch 3. Seriously.
The repetition helps and one of the 3 will make a lot more sense to you than the others.
A different one will be so lame that it will give you confidence.
Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2024 03:12 PM

This!

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 25, 2024 03:17 PM (1szDw)

392 My daughter had two pigs in her home. Not human ones, real live farm pigs. Yes, she's a messed up as one might imagine.
Posted by: Tonypete


Do they monopolize the TV to watch cowboy and Indian movies?

Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2024 03:17 PM (v6JzV)

393 So they CAN muster a military force if they really want to.

Dissolve NATO.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 25, 2024 03:15 PM (YqDXo)

Saw a report a couple days ago said the UK currently has 73,000 combat troops. 73,000 total. That's not a military, that's a cosplay convention.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 25, 2024 03:17 PM (wyMQY)

394 osted by: bonhomme at November 25, 2024 03:11 PM (Odg76)

How nice! Thanks for sharing an upbeat story.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2024 03:17 PM (MQJVv)

395 Why the hell would the Brits and Frogs want to into a land war over the Donbass and Crimea?

1853 would like a word.
Step just half a league onward, over there...

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at November 25, 2024 03:17 PM (zdLoL)

396 There is little question, though, that these Sanctuary jurisdictions should have federal monies stripped from them, as Homan suggests. The federal government is paying blue cities a lot of money supposedly for "law enforcement;" if they won't enforce the law, that money should stop.
++++
They absolutely should. This is, in essence, a nullification crisis. The blue states and cities have been engaging in nullification for more than a decade with no consequence. The border ("sanctuary" policies) and drugs (legal marijuana) are obvious, glaring examples.

Meanwhile, any attempt by the non-progs to engage in nullification - "gun sanctuaries" and whatnot - are immediately resisted by the feds.

Well, turnabout is fair play. Give it to them hard and deep. If the states and cities want to make a military issue out of their sanctuary status, then so be it. They break the law, the feds cut them off and if they want to start a war over it and compel the feds to turn the taps back on, then let them try. It will be illustrative and clarifying regardless of outcome.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 25, 2024 03:17 PM (HnUIn)

397 384 I cannot believe how many people I see on the intertubes who bring bottle baby goats or sheeps into the house and then let them run around instead of keeping them in the crate or tub or whatever. They are livestock, they cannot be house broken.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

My daughter had two pigs in her home. Not human ones, real live farm pigs. Yes, she's a messed up as one might imagine.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 25, 2024 03:15 PM (WXNFJ)

If you are going to have critters, you will shovel the shit. This is known. Domestic or not. I'd rather not shovel it in my house, though. Just sayin'.

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 25, 2024 03:17 PM (byWhc)

398 Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 25, 2024 03:09 PM

Heh. Judge Simpson is great.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 25, 2024 03:15 PM (ZANHd)

Judge Jeffrey Middleton is decent, also.

He us telling some dumbass chick right now that she should not drive without insurance.
Single mother of three, good grief.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 25, 2024 03:17 PM (ufFY8)

399 I have a brand new kitchen faucet I need to get installed. J, bless him, is worthless when it comes to things like this. I wonder if I could do it, because hiring a handyman for something so small is proving difficult.

Tip: If the valves haven't been moved in a long time (if you don't know, they haven't been) turn off the main water feed to the house first. Valves that haven't moved in a while are prone to breakage and you don't want one breaking with pressure behind it.

But if it does break, the water's already off and the valves are pretty easy to replace, too.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at November 25, 2024 03:19 PM (Gyft8)

400 He us telling some dumbass chick right now that she should not drive without insurance.

I'm not going to blame her for that. Insurance be expensive, yo.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 25, 2024 03:19 PM (hB7mE)

401 The price of food now is still higher now due to inflation than any study of the potential increase if we cut illegal immigration.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 25, 2024 03:19 PM (8Kx9y)

402 336 They arrested that town/county clerk in Kentucky (I forget the lady’s name) who refused to issue marriage licenses to homosexual couples.

As far as I’m concerned, the left chose this hill to die on almost a decade ago.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 25, 2024 02:46 PM (6ydKt)

My hazy recollection of that incident is that she wasn't against issuing the licenses per se, but that it was still specifically illegal to do so in Ky and she wanted some official notification from higher up before she did.
In the interim she go in hot water. So really she was punished for trying to do the best legal job she could.
Typical in our current environment.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 25, 2024 03:06 PM (FCbAQ)

IIRC, also, the forms from the state only listed Husband(or male) in one box, and Wife(or female) in the other box, and legally she wasn't able to modify those boxes.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at November 25, 2024 03:19 PM (k1E2D)

403 Who do you think is going to be on both the Epstein and Diddy Party lists?

I think the venn diagram of those is going to be close to a single circle

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 25, 2024 03:19 PM (RsS92)

404 CA Assembly Bill 5 (AB5) came down hard on the "gig economy". Workers for cash.
This ended my career as an upright bassist in a duo in local bars where I would make maybe $100 in 3 hours or so.
But then they ignore it when it comes to illegals...

Posted by: gourmand du jour at November 25, 2024 03:19 PM (MeG8a)

405 Judge Jeffrey Middleton is decent, also.

He us telling some dumbass chick right now that she should not drive without insurance.
Single mother of three, good grief.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 25, 2024 03:17 PM


Middleton is good, too. If you haven't seen Judge Fleischer out of TX, look for him. He's a riot.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 25, 2024 03:19 PM (ZANHd)

406 Do they monopolize the TV to watch cowboy and Indian movies?
Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2024 03:17 PM (v6JzV)

Some pigs are more equal than others.

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 25, 2024 03:19 PM (byWhc)

407 Watch a YouTube video on changing a faucet and I bet you could do it. I change the flappers on the toilets myself. That's a lot easier than a faucet though.

Might need a faucet wrench unless you have really long, skinny arms but that's a minor expense. IIRC, you (Piper) removed and replaced a drain P-trap a couple of months ago. It's not much more complicated than that.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 25, 2024 03:20 PM (/y8xj)

408 Watch 3. Seriously.
The repetition helps and one of the 3 will make a lot more sense to you than the others.
A different one will be so lame that it will give you confidence.
Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2024 03:12 PM (z/jjr)
++++
Plus, it improves the odds of seeing your scenario.

I knew nothing about HVAC and installed a mini-split after just some YouTube research and a bit of reading (the reading was just to learn why some of the steps were necessary).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 25, 2024 03:20 PM (HnUIn)

409 I'll be happy, bordering on ecstatic, to pay moar for lettuce and lawn care, to help Trump get rid of the millions of illegals who represent an existential threat to MY country.

Anyone who can afford a lawn guy or a part-time housekeeper right NOW can afford to pay more. Cut back on Starbucks and Pelosi's fancy ice cream.

Posted by: K.C. Wolf (mnw) at November 25, 2024 03:20 PM (NLIak)

410 >>Tip: If the valves haven't been moved in a long time (if you don't know, they haven't been) turn off the main water feed to the house first. Valves that haven't moved in a while are prone to breakage and you don't want one breaking with pressure behind it.


Best to not touch the shut off valves at all if you can get to your water main and shut the whole house down.

Those valves are a very weak link in your system. Try to never use them if you can.

Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2024 03:20 PM (z/jjr)

411 326 Because they owe it to Blackrock. I'm not joking.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 25, 2024 03:04 PM (lTGtQ)
— —

Why?
I’m seeing something about setting up a Rebuild Ukraine Investment Fund with JP Morgan for $15 billion.

I guess the grift continuing in Ukraine could be a part of it.

I think these fools along with Biden are trying to force Trump into something before January comes.

What exactly I don’t know.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 25, 2024 03:20 PM (6ydKt)

412 Why the hell would the Brits and Frogs want to into a land war over the Donbass and Crimea?


Posted by: SpeakingOf

Maybe they'll draft all the migrants and send them to Ukraine. You know, kill two birds with one stone.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at November 25, 2024 03:11 PM (L/fGl)

Well the the Brits want Crimea because they are idiots hankering after the Crimean War -- which is mostly remembered for Idiot British Generalship and Terrible British hospitals killing their own men.

For almost 6 months the Brits were determined to cross the Dnepr at one spot on the swampy banks of the Riverbed (a dam collapsed upstream a few years ago and water levels are low) and march to Sevestapol. Now a look at the map shows that the narrow entry into Crimea would be trivial to defend. The Russian Generals convinced Putin not to counterattack, instead they just shelled the poor troops in this swamp from afar and every so often collected prisoners...and shelled boats carrying wounded out and new troops in. It was even stupider than the Charge of the Light Brigade.

France is pissed since a missle wiped out some 'volunteers' who were 'advising' in Kharkov.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 25, 2024 03:20 PM (n7h9X)

413 That is, no one has ever said, "your food will be 25%+ higher if we cut back on illegal immigration."

It's always been maybe 10%. on the high end.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 25, 2024 03:20 PM (8Kx9y)

414 He us telling some dumbass chick right now that she should not drive without insurance.

I'm not going to blame her for that. Insurance be expensive, yo.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 25, 2024 03:19 PM (hB7mE)

Yeah, but you don't hit someone and cause $7k in damages. She has a judgement against her, and now the dude can garnish up to 30% of her net.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 25, 2024 03:21 PM (ufFY8)

415 265 I wonder if the Obama's were flying high on the booger sugar when Big Mike drowned their mouthy chef.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 25, 2024 02:54 PM (7oYYI)

++++

He was out in public the next day, I believe with a black eye and bandages on his fingers. No one in the news media thought it was in the least bit important.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 25, 2024 03:21 PM (mzoqX)

416 I live in Farm country... there is no, nor has there been, any lack of available Labor for farmers... even well before the latest border insanity.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 25, 2024 03:10 PM (QAkQ3)

This is true. And it was certainly true where I grew up. Town boys would take farm jobs during the summer.

But you have to realize that our "education system" more or less took that option away with elongated school years and summer schools for less accomplished students.

There's also the work ethic factor. Kids don't want dirty jobs anymore. And they definitely don't want to work hard.....and farm work is hard work.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at November 25, 2024 03:21 PM (g8Ew8)

417 Saw a report a couple days ago said the UK currently has 73,000 combat troops. 73,000 total. That's not a military, that's a cosplay convention.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 25, 2024 03:17 PM (wyMQY)


As a Moron already noted, they can't even fill an SEC stadium.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 25, 2024 03:21 PM (aD39U)

418 Best to not touch the shut off valves at all if you can get to your water main and shut the whole house down.

The entire point of having valves at the outlet is so you don't have to shut down the entire house.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 25, 2024 03:21 PM (hB7mE)

419
Best to not touch the shut off valves at all if you can get to your water main and shut the whole house down.

Those valves are a very weak link in your system. Try to never use them if you can.
Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2024 03:20 PM (z/jjr)

I live in a really old house and I've had plumbers here changing pipes under the house and making clean out valves. Yeah, the shut off valves under the sinks break, ask me how I know.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 25, 2024 03:22 PM (1szDw)

420 These motherfuckers are really pitting roving gangs of violent thugs vs cheap lawn labor.

Posted by: ... at November 25, 2024 03:22 PM (12v8J)

421 >I will open the box and look at the instructions. If they aren’t overwhelming, I may try it.

Posted by: Piper at November 25, 2024 03:15 PM (p4NUW)

Depending on the faucet, a specialized wrench might be needed. I just replaced my kitchen faucet. Was not terribly difficult, but removing the old faucet was a PITA. Mostly just awkward trying to get my hands behind the sink basin underneath the sink.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at November 25, 2024 03:22 PM (GTqXr)

422 Yeah, but you don't hit someone and cause $7k in damages. She has a judgement against her, and now the dude can garnish up to 30% of her net.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 25, 2024 03:21 PM


Did she try to tell him she was just travelling?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 25, 2024 03:22 PM (ZANHd)

423 336 They arrested that town/county clerk in Kentucky (I forget the lady’s name) who refused to issue marriage licenses to homosexual couples.

As far as I’m concerned, the left chose this hill to die on almost a decade ago.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 25, 2024 02:46 PM (6ydKt)

My hazy recollection of that incident is that she wasn't against issuing the licenses per se, but that it was still specifically illegal to do so in Ky and she wanted some official notification from higher up before she did.
In the interim she go in hot water. So really she was punished for trying to do the best legal job she could.
Typical in our current environment.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 25, 2024 03:06 PM (FCbAQ)

IIRC, also, the forms from the state only listed Husband(or male) in one box, and Wife(or female) in the other box, and legally she wasn't able to modify those boxes.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at November 25, 2024 03:19 PM (k1E2D)

— —
Could be, but I thought the original story was that she was Christian and couldn’t, by conscience, issue the licenses.

That could’ve been media malpractice, though.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 25, 2024 03:23 PM (6ydKt)

424 I live in a really old house and I've had plumbers here changing pipes under the house and making clean out valves. Yeah, the shut off valves under the sinks break, ask me how I know.
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 25, 2024 03:22 PM


I won't. I know for the same reason.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 25, 2024 03:23 PM (ZANHd)

425 These motherfuckers are really pitting roving gangs of violent thugs vs cheap lawn labor.
Posted by: ... at November 25, 2024 03:22 PM (12v8J)

Saw something like that on the Sopranos, lol.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 25, 2024 03:23 PM (ufFY8)

426 Saw a report a couple days ago said the UK currently has 73,000 combat troops. 73,000 total. That's not a military, that's a cosplay convention.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 25, 2024 03:17 PM (wyMQY)

As a Moron already noted, they can't even fill an SEC stadium.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 25, 2024 03:21 PM (aD39U)

They wouldn't have to go that far. It wouldn't even fill Wembley stadium for a rugby game (90k capacity).

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at November 25, 2024 03:23 PM (VNX3d)

427 >>The entire point of having valves at the outlet is so you don't have to shut down the entire house.


And you would think they would make them a lot better quality, for it.

However. They don't and they are the primary cause of issues outside of Freezing Pipes in my experience. If they aren't leaking, I leave them be.

Assuming that shutting the main is convenient and an option. In a house, it almost always is.

Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2024 03:24 PM (z/jjr)

428 Or Dad walked out never to be seen again….
Posted by: Piper at November 25, 2024 03:01 PM (p4NUW)

=====
He went out to get some milk. Should be back any minute now...
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 25, 2024


***
"Got a wife and kids in Baltimore, Jack --
I went out for a ride and I never went back!"

Posted by: A Guy Named Springsteen at November 25, 2024 03:24 PM (J2vNu)

429 413 That is, no one has ever said, "your food will be 25%+ higher if we cut back on illegal immigration."

It's always been maybe 10%. on the high end.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 25, 2024 03:20 PM (8Kx9y)

Now that we moved out of Anchorage, I will be growing most of my food, and using local ranchers for beef, etc. Wetback labor is meaning less and less to me as time goes on. Now, consider the significance of time....

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 25, 2024 03:24 PM (byWhc)

430 @376 the problem is that governments won't lower taxes and fees if their costs go down.

For sure, and this is a major anchor around the neck of education "reform." Education is expensive, at any level. If you could break the back of the federal machine and just pay at the state level, it would be a wash. Get beyond that, back to private or parochial schools and contract tutors, you might even come out ahead in total. But every one of those levels has its own infrastructure, staffing, and legal tradition with a tax tap attached. It's going to take a long generation of really wanting it to undo all those knots. And you have to keep the majority.

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at November 25, 2024 03:24 PM (zdLoL)

431 Best to not touch the shut off valves at all if you can get to your water main and shut the whole house down.

Those valves are a very weak link in your system. Try to never use them if you can.
Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2024 03:20 PM (z/jjr)

I live in a really old house and I've had plumbers here changing pipes under the house and making clean out valves. Yeah, the shut off valves under the sinks break, ask me how I know.
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 25, 2024 03:22 PM (1szDw)

I have a toilet that needs its innards replaced. The shutoff valve, get this, doesn't shut off the water pressure.

You had one job!

So it's shutting off the water supply to the house and draining the line going to the toilet.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 25, 2024 03:24 PM (Aqu9a)

432 Yeah, the shut off valves under the sinks break, ask me how I know.
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 25, 2024 03:22 PM

I won't. I know for the same reason.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState


You all have inspired me to every so often, shut and re-open the valves just so they stay operable.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 25, 2024 03:24 PM (hB7mE)

433 Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 25, 2024 03:21 PM

Did she try to tell him she was just travelling?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 25, 2024 03:22 PM (ZANHd)

LOL.

She got a ticket for failure to stop and hit him.

Norm McDonald would have a comment about women drivers.
RIP.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 25, 2024 03:25 PM (ufFY8)

434 Now that we moved out of Anchorage, I will be growing most of my food, and using local ranchers for beef, etc. Wetback labor is meaning less and less to me as time goes on. Now, consider the significance of time....
Posted by: tcn in AK

You get wetbacks in Alaska?

Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2024 03:25 PM (v6JzV)

435 Might need a faucet wrench unless you have really long, skinny arms but that's a minor expense. IIRC, you (Piper) removed and replaced a drain P-trap a couple of months ago. It's not much more complicated than that.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 25, 2024

That was like 2 things y’all talked me through it step by step 😂. I am thinking I don’t take this on before Thanksgiving. I mean the pipes and valves should be fine, the house is only 4 years old.

Posted by: Piper at November 25, 2024 03:25 PM (p4NUW)

436 He was out in public the next day, I believe with a black eye and bandages on his fingers. No one in the news media thought it was in the least bit important.
Posted by: washrivergal at November 25, 2024 03:21 PM (mzoqX)

Maybe Big Mike killed him protecting Barry when his strapping rent boy grabbed a hammer and went all David DePape on him.

You know that fairy wasn't strong enough to subdue and drown him. That's probably why he keeps her around. For the muscle.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 25, 2024 03:25 PM (7oYYI)

437 All threads become shut off valve threads eventually.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at November 25, 2024 03:25 PM (vO42M)

438 Did she try to tell him she was just travelling?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 25, 2024 03:22 PM (ZANHd)

Is she in double bonus yet?

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 25, 2024 03:25 PM (byWhc)

439 Saw a report a couple days ago said the UK currently has 73,000 combat troops. 73,000 total. That's not a military, that's a cosplay convention.

I think they have a couple tanks, too. And a ship.

This is what happens when the US decides to foot the bill on every single nation in Europe's military budget. We need to cut them loose, and if Europe ends up in war again, meh, not our problem.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 25, 2024 03:25 PM (RsS92)

440 Tyson Foods should be permitted to bring in guest workers, just like Israel does. You work, earn money, & go home.

There was never any problem, as far as I know, with U.S. "bracero" guest worker program for seasonal agri workers.

Posted by: K.C. Wolf (mnw) at November 25, 2024 03:26 PM (NLIak)

441
I have a brand new kitchen faucet I need to get installed. J, bless him, is worthless when it comes to things like this. I wonder if I could do it, because hiring a handyman for something so small is proving difficult.
Posted by: Piper

It isn't hard.
Youtube is your friend.

You'll need:
https://is.gd/FMEyM8
And Plumbers putty.

Again, Youtube, really.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 25, 2024 03:26 PM (THzoa)

442 Saw a report a couple days ago said the UK currently has 73,000 combat troops. 73,000 total. That's not a military, that's a cosplay convention.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 25, 2024 03:17 PM (wyMQY)

And worse yet, this is an infantry war. All those fancy artillery guns and tanks are special forces have to hide behind the poor bloody infantry who are a small fraction of the manpower. Even Russia had to reorganize the entire army in the SMO to increase the proportion of foot soldiers and assign more support tanks down to the lowest level.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 25, 2024 03:26 PM (n7h9X)

443 Crimean War trivia I thought was quite amusing when I found it out; the episode everyone remembers is the Charge of the Light Brigade, which of course was nobly disastrous. One of the reasons it was so disastrous was that it was supposed to be supported by a charge of a heavy brigade from another angle - but the heavy brigade stayed put, never left their lines, and thus the light brigade charged dug in lines all on their own and were massacred.
Why did the Heavy Brigade sit this one out? Turned out that he 2 commanders were brothers in law - and had hated each other for 20 years, and were barely on speaking terms even in staff meetings. The Heavy Brigade Commander was overjoyed to find an excuse to stay in his lines and let his hated relatives unit get cut to pieces.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 25, 2024 03:26 PM (wyMQY)

444 373 A Franken-Mower that my grandfather built from any number of 'Trash Day' lawnmower carcasses he had laying around.
Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2024 03:13 PM (z/jjr)

— —

I’m imagining a loud, angry, smoke cloud, mowing along with a coughing kid behind it.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 25, 2024 03:27 PM (6ydKt)

445 Didn't I read that Germany would be able to put a dozen fighter aircraft up, if they had to, maybe, if it was on a workday.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 25, 2024 03:27 PM (aD39U)

446 You get wetbacks in Alaska?
Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2024 03:25 PM (v6JzV)

We've got everybody here. The feds relocated some Afghan refugees here, there are ragheads from Nigeria, lots of Hispanics that don't speak English, the works. Not where I am now, but Anchorage is full of relocated illegals.

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 25, 2024 03:28 PM (byWhc)

447 That was like 2 things y’all talked me through it step by step 😂. I am thinking I don’t take this on before Thanksgiving. I mean the pipes and valves should be fine, the house is only 4 years old.
Posted by: Piper at November 25, 2024 03:25 PM (p4NUW)

Sounds like a Piper Pipe Project thread on the weekend?

Posted by: Oldcat at November 25, 2024 03:28 PM (n7h9X)

448 >>I’m imagining a loud, angry, smoke cloud, mowing along with a coughing kid behind it.


Imagine it without ANY of the safety devices you would think it would/should have...and you got it.

Posted by: garrett at November 25, 2024 03:28 PM (z/jjr)

449 You get wetbacks in Alaska?
Posted by: Bulg

Soon to be known as ICEbacks.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at November 25, 2024 03:28 PM (vO42M)

450 The Heavy Brigade Commander was overjoyed to find an excuse to stay in his lines and let his hated relatives unit get cut to pieces.
Posted by: Tom Servo


Wow. Did he face any punishment for that?

Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2024 03:28 PM (v6JzV)

451 Check YouTube University Foro those small home repairs.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 25, 2024 03:29 PM (/lPRQ)

452
nood nate silver

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 25, 2024 03:29 PM (w9Ycv)

453 You all have inspired me to every so often, shut and re-open the valves just so they stay operable.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 25, 2024 03:24 PM


To be fair, the valves in my mom's house were the old wheel type valves that hadn't been moved in years. A friend helped me replace them all with new valves. Easy job.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 25, 2024 03:29 PM (ZANHd)

454 I’m imagining a loud, angry, smoke cloud, mowing along with a coughing kid behind it.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 25, 2024 03:27 PM (6ydKt)
++++
AH! Flashes of my childhood!

Except that was a riding mower with three blades and the center blade was broken. So one rode and mowed, and the other walked behind with the other mower to cut the middle.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 25, 2024 03:29 PM (HnUIn)

455 It's always been maybe 10%. on the high end.

That is nothing to sneeze at, especially after the inflation we've already been brutalized with.

That said, the better overall economy and higher pay that should result from Trump's other policies should help offset that. Especially cheaper gas.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 25, 2024 03:30 PM (RsS92)

456 440 Tyson Foods should be permitted to bring in guest workers, just like Israel does. You work, earn money, & go home.

There was never any problem, as far as I know, with U.S. "bracero" guest worker program for seasonal agri workers.
Posted by: K.C. Wolf (mnw) at November 25, 2024 03:26 PM

It's called the H2A program and you have to provide all meals and housing and transportation.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 25, 2024 03:30 PM (1szDw)

457 Didn't I read that Germany would be able to put a dozen fighter aircraft up, if they had to, maybe, if it was on a workday.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 25, 2024 03:27 PM (aD39U)

yeah their airforce is a joke. Also, they have to borrow operable tanks from other units to even train a unit.

At least saber rattler diplomats made sure they had a saber!

Posted by: Oldcat at November 25, 2024 03:30 PM (n7h9X)

458 Piper, I don't really know what your doing with faucet but one pro-tip is to embrace plumbers tape and use it.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 25, 2024 03:31 PM (jFCkp)

459 450 The Heavy Brigade Commander was overjoyed to find an excuse to stay in his lines and let his hated relatives unit get cut to pieces.
Posted by: Tom Servo

Wow. Did he face any punishment for that?
Posted by: Bulg at November 25, 2024 03:28 PM (v6JzV)

Nope, because the story gets even bettter. Turns out that the overall commander had been told by the Home Office back in London that there was long term bad blood between the two men, and he should keep them as far apart as he could. He blew off the warning, ignored it completely and did exactly what he was warned not to do. In typical British Army fashion, they gave eveyone a medal and sent them all home.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 25, 2024 03:31 PM (wyMQY)

460 Heh. I moved into my house shortly before Thanksgiving. Old home - no pressure regulator on the main valve behind the meter.

Right about that time, the city did something or other that increased the pressure coming through the meter - popped every plastic plumbing valve in the house, just in time for the holidays. Good times.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 25, 2024 03:32 PM (7oYYI)

461 I have a toilet that needs its innards replaced. The shutoff valve, get this, doesn't shut off the water pressure.

Another problem that comes from having cheap valves. In the current house I replaced all the water fixture valves with 1/4 turn ball valves because I didn't want to deal with cheap plastic that snapped when you tried to turn it or leaked if it didn't beak.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at November 25, 2024 03:32 PM (Gyft8)

462 — —
Could be, but I thought the original story was that she was Christian and couldn’t, by conscience, issue the licenses.

That could’ve been media malpractice, though.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 25, 2024 03:23 PM (6ydKt)

That was what the reported initial reasoning was until she was ordered by a court to do it, but after the court decision that was the reason behind not issuing the certificate.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at November 25, 2024 03:33 PM (k1E2D)

463 Crimean War trivia I thought was quite amusing when I found it out; the episode everyone remembers is the Charge of the Light Brigade, which of course was nobly disastrous. One of the reasons it was so disastrous was that it was supposed to be supported by a charge of a heavy brigade from another angle - but the heavy brigade stayed put, never left their lines, and thus the light brigade charged dug in lines all on their own and were massacred.
Why did the Heavy Brigade sit this one out? Turned out that he 2 commanders were brothers in law - and had hated each other for 20 years, and were barely on speaking terms even in staff meetings. The Heavy Brigade Commander was overjoyed to find an excuse to stay in his lines and let his hated relatives unit get cut to pieces.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 25, 2024 03:26 PM (wyMQY)

To be fair to the Heavy Brigade, the guns that the Light Brigade was charging were an entirely different set of guns at the far end of a long valley with other guns on the side. The correct guns weren't visible to the Colonel, and the staff officer giving the order pointed to the other guns because he didn't know either and didn't want to check.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 25, 2024 03:34 PM (n7h9X)

464 the episode everyone remembers is the Charge of the Light Brigade

Iron Maiden remembers.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I AM The Science at November 25, 2024 03:36 PM (lg881)

465 Forgive some ignorance, but have sanctuary policies only been applied to immigration issues? I mean, if a city or State can say we don't want to cooperate with federal law on immigration, can a city or State say we don't like the federal gun laws? All our gun stores do not have to do NICS checks? Take any federal law and apply this reasoning. Why has this only been done to thwart the feds on immigration?

Posted by: Lex at November 25, 2024 03:37 PM (fMN7A)

466 Didn't the Federal govt. under Obama sue Arizona when that state tried to enforce immigration laws?

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I AM The Science at November 25, 2024 03:39 PM (lg881)

467 Trump didnt overwhelmingly win with a Mandate to cozy up with the enemy who have been trying to destroy the country since at the very least 2008.

MAGA wont win in 2028 if Trump does destroy the Deep State. If the successor to MAGA campaigns in 2028 that we have to elect them to protect us from the Commies and Deep State, MAGA will lose. That's why MAGA was elected in 2024.

Posted by: mossomo at November 25, 2024 03:46 PM (mttHV)

468 Biden Harris set the whole "Full Court press by executive action" scenario up...They declared a Border "Crises", defined it as an "Emergency",including authorizing FEMA to get involved. NOW "Emergency measures" are fully warranted and the pathway cleared.

Posted by: birddog at November 25, 2024 03:53 PM (WRmPz)

469 Yeah! Rick Perry kicked ass, chewed bubblegum, and... I can't remember the third thing he did.
Posted by: ... at November 25, 2024 02:40 PM (12v8J)


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Posted by: Rick Perry at November 25, 2024 04:00 PM (v0R5T)

470 Depending on the faucet, a specialized wrench might be needed. I just replaced my kitchen faucet. Was not terribly difficult, but removing the old faucet was a PITA. Mostly just awkward trying to get my hands behind the sink basin underneath the sink.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at November 25, 2024 03:22 PM (GTqXr)
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Pro tip: buy a set of deep sockets and the longest ratchet extender bar you can find that has a fitting that accommodates the deep socket. Then you can remove the nuts fastening the faucet to the sink (the worst part, IMO) with a simple ratchet, without having to get your hands in behind the sink bowl.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 25, 2024 04:03 PM (YqDXo)

471 You need a deep socket because typically the nuts fastening the faucet to the sink are halfway up the stud, too far for a standard socket to reach them.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 25, 2024 04:05 PM (YqDXo)

472

whenever theres a democrat in the white house

its all about the supremacy clause

whenever theres a republican in the white house

all of a sudden its all about the 10th amendment and states rights

Posted by: sound awake at November 25, 2024 04:05 PM (g7ym/)

473 Homan is incorrect - federal law does not supercede state law.

And states are not required or cooperate with federal law enforcement.

They may not legally *interfere* with it, but they are not required to cooperate.

Posted by: agammamon at November 25, 2024 04:19 PM (jWCrI)

474 "Refusing to transfer illegal immigrants in custody to ICE may constitute harboring, a violation of federal law."

Harboring unauthorized aliens under subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iii) makes it a crime to harbor, shield, or conceal an unauthorized alien knowingly. Harboring includes providing shelter or other assistance (financial, food, etc.).

I would not be shy about enforcing it. Arrest law enforcement if you have to - they can go right into custody with the illegals they are harboring. They can complain about "just following orders" but the answer is this - you were informed that you broke the law and willingly did so, orders or not. Also, whose orders? Then arrest that person who gave the orders. No jail time - process and release with a court date. Everything by the book.

Posted by: El Mariachi at November 25, 2024 04:19 PM (mvURQ)

475 In prosecuting the perps for harboring, make sure you document multiple instances of them being informed what they are doing is illegal under federal law, and what penalties might attach.

I'd slap a $10k fine on the perps, and a warning that the next time will be 1 year in jail. Good luck if you are a LEO with a felony on your record.

You won't have to do this very often, just once or twice. Again, the mayor might talk tough, but when the Denver PD starts losing officers...and can't find anyone to take their places...it's fine for the politicians to parade around waving the bloody shirt...but LEO - they won't do it.

Posted by: El Mariachi at November 25, 2024 04:27 PM (mvURQ)

476 I disagree about cutting off JUST the law assistance money. If they are educating illegal kids, cut off the education money. If they are paying to house illegal immigrants, cut off the housing assistance and the fed “guarantees” from Freddie and Fannie. If they are feeding illegals, cut off the food money. If they are giving illegals drivers licenses, cut off highway funds. And so on.

Posted by: Jeff M at November 25, 2024 04:33 PM (uvkwn)

477 I fail to see why not simply enforcing EXISTING immigration laws won't sort things out quite neatly.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at November 25, 2024 05:28 PM (hKoQL)

478 "We already know the public rejected the lawfare against Trump. Now, if Trump begins using legal process against #Resistance figures (who are legitimately breaking the law), we'll see if the public is against all use of prosecutorial power to settle political disputes"

these won't be "political disputes" ... they will be criminal behavior ... procesuting them won't be lawfare but will be following the rule of law ...

Posted by: The Dark Lord at November 25, 2024 05:38 PM (DBAaD)

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