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Gun Thread: Almost Thanksgiving Edition!
FUNdamentals
A Navy SEAL with good watch diameter value discusses fundamentals and not shooting low/left.
Beginner Drills
Some first time drills with Lena Miculek.
Iconic Revolvers!
With Mas Ayoob
More Mas Ayoob
One in the chamber or not?
Highway Patrol
A diversion robbery! Sneaky bastards!
Our Pal the Sun!
Dr. Baxter with Bell Labs talks about our pal the Sun.
Gun Basics 101
New video from the She Equips Herself gal! This week's video is on gifts for the range babe(s) in your life..
En route to a sailing trip I spent a few days in Miami. Gee, what might be one item of interest in that town? Cigars! So I visited a small company in Little Havana (future review), and took Uber through the horrendous rush-hour traffic out to Perdomo Cigars HQ, near the executive airport. Got there late but they let me hang out, burn a cigar, and had a nice chat with (I think) Nick Perdomo's son as they closed up. Bought a bunch of their sticks, 2 are reviewed below. Highly recommend visiting Perdomo when in the area. Nice lounge in front, and the humidor has their entire line. The Habano Bourbon Barrel Aged Sun Grown (at left in photo) is a nice looking medium/dark brown stick. The Nicaraguan tobaccos in it are all aged 6 years - the wrapper is aged an additional 10 months in ex-bourbon barrels. Construction on all Perdomos seems flawless, the burn even. This stick is one of the best I've had in a long time - a mellow medium, with a rich sweetness that must be the bourbon barrel aging coming through. Ample smoke. Will be getting more of these. The cigar on the right of the photo, the Double Aged 12 Year Vintage Maduro, has Nicaraguan tobaccos aged 10 years, then 2 more years in ex-bourbon barrels. To me there was less of the unique sweetness of the Habano Sun Grown, I got more earth, even leather, and less distinct flavors. Still a nice smoke, and I'll be trying it again. The Habano BB Aged Sun Grown is available online for $8, the 12-Year Vintage Maduro for $10.Excellent, rhomboid! Thank you!
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Nicks Cigar World New! A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!
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Comments
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BANG!!!!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 24, 2024 07:00 PM (0XVad)
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Bang
Posted by: Eromero at November 24, 2024 07:00 PM (LHPAg)
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Hello, Weasel!
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 07:00 PM (AiJK3)
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st!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 07:01 PM (Wnv9h)
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Or not.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 07:01 PM (Wnv9h)
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Scoobs, you got a turkey! Nope, that’s a flamingo. They’re protected. I gotta run, see you next Sunday. Bye.
Posted by: Eromero at November 24, 2024 07:02 PM (LHPAg)
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Here!
Scoobs wins again.
Scoobs wins again.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 07:05 PM (2UpC3)
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Have not done anything gun related here. I have to call the store that I use as an FFL to ask some questions in transferring a gun that I will purchase from a friend.
I cannot just buy a rifle here in NYC, have to send in paperwork for their registry.
I cannot just buy a rifle here in NYC, have to send in paperwork for their registry.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 24, 2024 07:05 PM (0XVad)
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Good afternoon, Weasel. Thanks once again for another fabulous pre-holiday gun thread extravaganza!
Range report to follow.
I want to know how SEH stands up straight. Good grief.
Range report to follow.
I want to know how SEH stands up straight. Good grief.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 24, 2024 07:05 PM (tT6L1)
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gub thread! yay!
Posted by: 80's music fan at November 24, 2024 07:05 PM (r0dOk)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 24, 2024 07:05 PM (mH6SG)
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I am also interested in the Moron poll on carrying with one in the chamber.
I do not carry enough, nor have enough close friends that EDC, so I am not informed enough to have an opinion.
Would like to hear some Horde wisdom.
I do not carry enough, nor have enough close friends that EDC, so I am not informed enough to have an opinion.
Would like to hear some Horde wisdom.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 24, 2024 07:07 PM (HlyYF)
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One in the Chamber or Not?
Yes. Any other answer compromises your safety for the sake of FUD and/or lack of training.
Yes. Any other answer compromises your safety for the sake of FUD and/or lack of training.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 24, 2024 07:07 PM (/y8xj)
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Good evening everyone
Posted by: Skip at November 24, 2024 07:07 PM (fwDg9)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 24, 2024 07:08 PM (mH6SG)
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Good evening Horde. Thanks Weasel! BTW, check your email.
I am pleased to report that I've (mostly) cured my low and left problem. For me, the problem was the three fingers of the trigger hand wrapping around the grip. If I keep those at rest and isolate the movement of the trigger finger, my success rate skyrockets. The new grip still isn't fully intuitive but that's what practice is for. Had a good outing at the range on Friday. Look forward to watching the video in the content.
I am pleased to report that I've (mostly) cured my low and left problem. For me, the problem was the three fingers of the trigger hand wrapping around the grip. If I keep those at rest and isolate the movement of the trigger finger, my success rate skyrockets. The new grip still isn't fully intuitive but that's what practice is for. Had a good outing at the range on Friday. Look forward to watching the video in the content.
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 07:08 PM (IQ6Gq)
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If Scoobs is ever involved in a self-defense situation, I hope he is as fast on the draw in that circumstance as he is on AOS!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 24, 2024 07:08 PM (HlyYF)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 07:08 PM (Wnv9h)
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I recently purchased a Citizen Corso Eco-Drive Chronograph, 44mm. Is this watch within allowable limits?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 24, 2024 07:09 PM (tT6L1)
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I recently purchased a Citizen Corso Eco-Drive Chronograph, 44mm. Is this watch within allowable limits?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 24, 2024 07:09 PM (tT6L1)
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40-43mm.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 24, 2024 07:09 PM (tT6L1)
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40-43mm.
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 07:10 PM (fghTy)
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17 If Scoobs is ever involved in a self-defense situation, I hope he is as fast on the draw in that circumstance as he is on AOS!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 24, 2024 07:08 PM
It is luck, pure luck.
If I ever do have a self defense situation it better be here at home where I have the means to defend myself.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 24, 2024 07:08 PM
It is luck, pure luck.
If I ever do have a self defense situation it better be here at home where I have the means to defend myself.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 24, 2024 07:10 PM (0XVad)
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4 st!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 07:01 PM
On a previous AOS thread I saw that you can still earn a very nice physical bronze medal for a 3st.
Unfortunately for you, I have never encountered anyone giving out medals for 4st!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 07:01 PM
On a previous AOS thread I saw that you can still earn a very nice physical bronze medal for a 3st.
Unfortunately for you, I have never encountered anyone giving out medals for 4st!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 24, 2024 07:10 PM (HlyYF)
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If Scoobs is ever involved in a self-defense situation, I hope he is as fast on the draw in that circumstance as he is on AOS!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 24, 2024 07:08 PM (HlyYF)
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Scoobs, faster on the dray than a Moron hitting the F5 key on Aos!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 24, 2024 07:08 PM (HlyYF)
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Scoobs, faster on the dray than a Moron hitting the F5 key on Aos!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 24, 2024 07:11 PM (tT6L1)
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Gub!
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 24, 2024 07:11 PM (mH6SG)
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Rats. Since I'm over on the watch diameter I suppose I have a note in my permanent record.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 24, 2024 07:11 PM (tT6L1)
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Hi everyone!!
Happy Thanksgiving.
I don't carry all the time - but nearly every time I go to Dallas I do. Always have one in the chamber. Seems like it would be extra effort / time to have to rack the gun if I pulled it. As a lefty, having to hit the safety on a right handed gun is tricky enough.
Happy Thanksgiving.
I don't carry all the time - but nearly every time I go to Dallas I do. Always have one in the chamber. Seems like it would be extra effort / time to have to rack the gun if I pulled it. As a lefty, having to hit the safety on a right handed gun is tricky enough.
Posted by: Lurking in Garland at November 24, 2024 07:12 PM (x+Kx9)
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PI, my EDC is an original tiny Ruger LCP. in 380 ACP. It goes with me everywhere.
It is Double Action only with a loooong trigger pull. According, I have no problems carrying with one in the pipe. And, with a 6 round mag, it means I carry over 16% more rounds.
Oops, math.
It is Double Action only with a loooong trigger pull. According, I have no problems carrying with one in the pipe. And, with a 6 round mag, it means I carry over 16% more rounds.
Oops, math.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 07:12 PM (2UpC3)
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Rats. Since I'm over on the watch diameter I suppose I have a note in my permanent record.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 24, 2024 07:11 PM (tT6L1)
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Waivers are known to be granted.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 24, 2024 07:11 PM (tT6L1)
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Waivers are known to be granted.
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 07:13 PM (fghTy)
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I cannot just buy a rifle here in NYC, have to send in paperwork for their registry.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 24, 2024 07:05 PM
When you do eventually escape from NYC, I hope your body will be able to handle the sudden and massive increase in freedom!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 24, 2024 07:05 PM
When you do eventually escape from NYC, I hope your body will be able to handle the sudden and massive increase in freedom!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 24, 2024 07:13 PM (HlyYF)
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I carry a 1911 cocked and locked. Round is most definitely in the chamber. Took me a while to get comfortable doing so, though.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 24, 2024 07:13 PM (tT6L1)
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Heh. Top 30(?) or so…
No range time but I did get to watch the sun rise and set over the farm I hunt.
Good evening to all the GunHorde and Thank You Weasel
No range time but I did get to watch the sun rise and set over the farm I hunt.
Good evening to all the GunHorde and Thank You Weasel
Posted by: Coelacanth at November 24, 2024 07:14 PM (nrpZ6)
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Dear Diary,
It is my second week since I have returned to the Gun Thread. It is a mixture of the familiar and strange. Many names I recognize, others I do not. They seem friendly, but also more feral than I remember them.
What unsettled me the most was that no one so much as mentioned .41 Magnum. I feel I don't know these people anymore.
It is my second week since I have returned to the Gun Thread. It is a mixture of the familiar and strange. Many names I recognize, others I do not. They seem friendly, but also more feral than I remember them.
What unsettled me the most was that no one so much as mentioned .41 Magnum. I feel I don't know these people anymore.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 07:15 PM (ZOv7s)
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You should have one in the chamber. If your handgun isn't safe to carry w/ one in the chamber, get one that can.
Outside the wire I always had one in the chamber of both the M16/M4 and M9/M1911. You will not have the time or brain power to think about chambering a round under the stress of combat.
Outside the wire I always had one in the chamber of both the M16/M4 and M9/M1911. You will not have the time or brain power to think about chambering a round under the stress of combat.
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 07:16 PM (AiJK3)
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Good Sunday evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and a sneaky diversion greeting to our host Weasel!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 07:16 PM (v23vE)
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By my count, I believe "one in the chamber" is currently leading 5-0!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 24, 2024 07:16 PM (HlyYF)
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Today, in 1871, the National Rifle Association was incorporated.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 24, 2024 07:17 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at November 24, 2024 07:17 PM (Hdixl)
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Hmm, will will the keeper of the personal records let me off if I explain my regular beautiful Seiko broke and due to watch withdrawal, I bought a new Citizen to tide me over until I can get the Seiko repaired? (40mm, by the way)
I also had a gift certificate which covered the cost of the new watch.
I also had a gift certificate which covered the cost of the new watch.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 24, 2024 07:17 PM (tT6L1)
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Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 24, 2024 07:17 PM (tT6L1)
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We can forward your waiver application to the Standards Committee for a ruling.
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We can forward your waiver application to the Standards Committee for a ruling.
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 07:19 PM (fghTy)
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Range Report!
My buddy, the Aspirin Shoot Match Director, has been giving me sh*t about missing the last two monthly matches.
This morning, after realizing that a weekday alarm will not go off on a weekend, I made a mad dash to the range. I got there just in time.
Match Director and I were the only ones there. OK, it was 35, damp and windy. At least my Permanent Record got an attaboy.
My buddy, the Aspirin Shoot Match Director, has been giving me sh*t about missing the last two monthly matches.
This morning, after realizing that a weekday alarm will not go off on a weekend, I made a mad dash to the range. I got there just in time.
Match Director and I were the only ones there. OK, it was 35, damp and windy. At least my Permanent Record got an attaboy.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 07:19 PM (2UpC3)
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Gun within 10 ft of me now? Well... Colt .45 Replica, with 5 chambers loaded.... so as soon as I cock it she's ready to go....
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 24, 2024 07:20 PM (QAkQ3)
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Perhaps off topic, but Roger Staubach on recent Cowboys teams. Pretty funny!
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Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at November 24, 2024 07:20 PM (VNX3d)
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I see we have a weirdo extolling the virtues of the .41 Magnum. We may need to keep an eye on him, as one never knows.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 24, 2024 07:20 PM (tT6L1)
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25 Rats. Since I'm over on the watch diameter I suppose I have a note in my permanent record.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 24, 2024 07:11 PM
When I was quickly scanning posts, I though you had purchased a "shooting" chronograph to get your ammo perfect for your long range competitions.
Since it is just a watch, AND your are 1mm out of compliance - I am bitterly disappointed.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 24, 2024 07:11 PM
When I was quickly scanning posts, I though you had purchased a "shooting" chronograph to get your ammo perfect for your long range competitions.
Since it is just a watch, AND your are 1mm out of compliance - I am bitterly disappointed.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 24, 2024 07:20 PM (HlyYF)
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29 When you do eventually escape from NYC, I hope your body will be able to handle the sudden and massive increase in freedom!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 24, 2024 07:13 PM
Might be sooner than expected. When I reach 65 I will retire, or if I reach a certain monetary amount in my accounts. I am pretty close on both.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 24, 2024 07:13 PM
Might be sooner than expected. When I reach 65 I will retire, or if I reach a certain monetary amount in my accounts. I am pretty close on both.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 24, 2024 07:20 PM (0XVad)
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I see we have a weirdo extolling the virtues of the .41 Magnum. We may need to keep an eye on him, as one never knows.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1)
If there's an ammo dump, though, he'll be able to get most of that caliber for himself. Planning ahead!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1)
If there's an ammo dump, though, he'll be able to get most of that caliber for himself. Planning ahead!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at November 24, 2024 07:21 PM (VNX3d)
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You will not have the time or brain power to think about chambering a round under the stress of combat.
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 07:16 PM (AiJK3)
Sure seems to me like these are words of wisdom.
If you carry, you do so that you can react quickly in a complex situation that you do not control.
Adding one more step to your reaction time seems to be very risky.
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 07:16 PM (AiJK3)
Sure seems to me like these are words of wisdom.
If you carry, you do so that you can react quickly in a complex situation that you do not control.
Adding one more step to your reaction time seems to be very risky.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NEXT Year In Corsicana - again! ~ at November 24, 2024 07:22 PM (hOUT3)
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Thanks for the Gun Thread Weasel!
Posted by: DBCooper at November 24, 2024 07:22 PM (y1Mvi)
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Since it is just a watch, AND your are 1mm out of compliance - I am bitterly disappointed.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 24, 2024 07:20 PM (HlyYF)
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usually, I just disappoint people. I'm gratified to know I've upped my game to "bitterly."
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 24, 2024 07:20 PM (HlyYF)
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usually, I just disappoint people. I'm gratified to know I've upped my game to "bitterly."
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 24, 2024 07:22 PM (tT6L1)
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One in the Chamber or Not?
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As in most firearm-related question, it depends. If you use a revolver as a primary carry piece, the question is somewhat moot.
However, with autoloaders things get more complicated, and that depends greatly on your individual circumstances.
For example, if you live in a jurisdiction where you have to leave your weapon in a vehicle and it must be stored in a "safe" condition, repeatedly drawing it and manipulating it offers ample opportunity for error or mechanical malfunction. You must therefore consider the odds where using it will require immediate employment vs the many many times it has to be handled.
I have seen autoloaders discharge while being cleared, so in my calculation, I am willing to accept the incremental increase in draw time and employment vs an unintentional discharge.
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As in most firearm-related question, it depends. If you use a revolver as a primary carry piece, the question is somewhat moot.
However, with autoloaders things get more complicated, and that depends greatly on your individual circumstances.
For example, if you live in a jurisdiction where you have to leave your weapon in a vehicle and it must be stored in a "safe" condition, repeatedly drawing it and manipulating it offers ample opportunity for error or mechanical malfunction. You must therefore consider the odds where using it will require immediate employment vs the many many times it has to be handled.
I have seen autoloaders discharge while being cleared, so in my calculation, I am willing to accept the incremental increase in draw time and employment vs an unintentional discharge.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 07:23 PM (ZOv7s)
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Scoobs, you can camp out on my lawn in NNH if you need to retire quickly.
I even have a cool dry basement where your firearms can vacation.
I even have a cool dry basement where your firearms can vacation.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 07:23 PM (2UpC3)
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What unsettled me the most was that no one so much as mentioned .41 Magnum. I feel I don't know these people anymore.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 07:15 PM
Someone mentioned it last week, but it is sad and disappointing that such a fine community* as exists here does not wax rhapsodic on the finest handgun cartridge more often.
* Yes, even the Glock fan bois.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 07:15 PM
Someone mentioned it last week, but it is sad and disappointing that such a fine community* as exists here does not wax rhapsodic on the finest handgun cartridge more often.
* Yes, even the Glock fan bois.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 24, 2024 07:23 PM (a3Q+t)
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What unsettled me the most was that no one so much as mentioned .41 Magnum. I feel I don't know these people anymore.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 07:15 PM
Glad to see you back, AHL!
I fear that Bidenomics may have somewhat cooled the ardor for the .41 Magnum in some parts.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 07:15 PM
Glad to see you back, AHL!
I fear that Bidenomics may have somewhat cooled the ardor for the .41 Magnum in some parts.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 24, 2024 07:23 PM (HlyYF)
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Good evening good people.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 24, 2024 07:24 PM (WXNFJ)
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Evening all.
No range report. This time of year seems to mess with everyone's schedule.
I definitely shoot low and left and after watching that video, I'm pretty sure I know why. Can't wait to get to the range to check it out.
Thanks Weasel.
No range report. This time of year seems to mess with everyone's schedule.
I definitely shoot low and left and after watching that video, I'm pretty sure I know why. Can't wait to get to the range to check it out.
Thanks Weasel.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 24, 2024 07:24 PM (t/2Uw)
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51 Scoobs, you can camp out on my lawn in NNH if you need to retire quickly.
I even have a cool dry basement where your firearms can vacation.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 07:23 PM
Not a bad idea. Don't know how I would handle the winters. LOL
I even have a cool dry basement where your firearms can vacation.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 07:23 PM
Not a bad idea. Don't know how I would handle the winters. LOL
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 24, 2024 07:25 PM (0XVad)
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Not having one in the chamber is like storing your gun in a safe until you need it. Balderdash!
Posted by: Ben Had at November 24, 2024 07:25 PM (gGMRM)
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As in most firearm-related question, it depends. If you use a revolver as a primary carry piece, the question is somewhat moot.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 07:23 PM
* would wave arms frantically, if we had arms, instead of being arms *
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 07:23 PM
* would wave arms frantically, if we had arms, instead of being arms *
Posted by: Colt SAAs at November 24, 2024 07:26 PM (a3Q+t)
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If I had a CZ Model 75, I'd keep one in the chamber. State law has no requirement to travel with your pew pew in a 'safe' condition.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 24, 2024 07:26 PM (WXNFJ)
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This morning, after realizing that a weekday alarm will not go off on a weekend, I made a mad dash to the range. I got there just in time.
Match Director and I were the only ones there.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 07:19 PM
Dang it, I wish I would have been able to attend.
I would have liked to finish in the "top 3" at an aspirin shoot!
Match Director and I were the only ones there.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 07:19 PM
Dang it, I wish I would have been able to attend.
I would have liked to finish in the "top 3" at an aspirin shoot!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 24, 2024 07:26 PM (HlyYF)
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No range time for me this week. Went to the Chantilly Gun Show on Friday and Saturday. A good sized crowd showed up. The shows right before and right after the holiday season usually have the biggest attendance of the whole year. I didn't buy anything big at the show, but I did pick up an item I had pre-ordered, a new B&T modified Glock 19 "Hush Puppy" kit. B&T modified the Glock 19 to include a slide lock, threaded barrel, and an milled out slide that accommodates a low-mount Aimpoint Acro P2 red dot. The kit also includes a "Hush Puppy" wipe equipped suppressor. This is a small (3" long) suppressor that can be lengthened with a second stage to get the most noise reduction possible. It all comes w/ tools in a nice little briefcase with laser cut foam. Weasel, would you like to see a write up of it?
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 07:28 PM (AiJK3)
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I currently have only 2 handguns. Both are full size which would make conceal/carry difficult.
But with both I can keep one round chambered. On the Sig 9mm it is a DA/SA trigger. I just have to de-cock the hammer and it is in DA which gives one time to reflect if one should shoot.
The other is a Sig 1911 which I can keep cocked and locked. Just have to remember to take the safety off.
But with both I can keep one round chambered. On the Sig 9mm it is a DA/SA trigger. I just have to de-cock the hammer and it is in DA which gives one time to reflect if one should shoot.
The other is a Sig 1911 which I can keep cocked and locked. Just have to remember to take the safety off.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 24, 2024 07:28 PM (0XVad)
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Unfortunately for you, I have never encountered anyone giving out medals for 4st!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 24, 2024 07:10 PM
Come on, I was forced!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 24, 2024 07:10 PM
Come on, I was forced!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 07:28 PM (Wnv9h)
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You will not have the time or brain power to think about chambering a round under the stress of combat.
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 07:16 PM (AiJK3)
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Setting aside that this isn't a combat situation, if you train while you fight, it isn't an issue. When I chose to carry an autoloader, I spent hours doing draw-chamber-shoot drills. Total time from holster to shots fired was only a fraction of a second slower than a revolver.
The key is assessing risk and also your role in the situation. Guys like Mas Ayoob were cops, and so they were going into danger and expecting trouble. They also had to subdue/defeat the threat.
Civilians are seeking only to break engagement. There is no requirement to defeat a threat. In the vast majority of circumstances, merely producing a weapon is sufficient deterrent. One should be willing to employ force if necessary, but in the current legal system, there is far greater danger for people firing too soon than too late.
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 07:16 PM (AiJK3)
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Setting aside that this isn't a combat situation, if you train while you fight, it isn't an issue. When I chose to carry an autoloader, I spent hours doing draw-chamber-shoot drills. Total time from holster to shots fired was only a fraction of a second slower than a revolver.
The key is assessing risk and also your role in the situation. Guys like Mas Ayoob were cops, and so they were going into danger and expecting trouble. They also had to subdue/defeat the threat.
Civilians are seeking only to break engagement. There is no requirement to defeat a threat. In the vast majority of circumstances, merely producing a weapon is sufficient deterrent. One should be willing to employ force if necessary, but in the current legal system, there is far greater danger for people firing too soon than too late.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 07:29 PM (ZOv7s)
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Weasel, would you like to see a write up of it?
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 07:28 PM (AiJK3)
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Sure!
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 07:28 PM (AiJK3)
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Sure!
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 07:29 PM (fghTy)
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Match Director and I were the only ones there.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 07:19 PM
Remember, Second Place is First Loser.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 07:19 PM
Remember, Second Place is First Loser.
Posted by: Coach Duncanthrax at November 24, 2024 07:29 PM (a3Q+t)
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Boss Weasel, I need to seek an indulgence here and mention something not directly Gub related.
If you recall, the VaMoMe of 2020 featured a cardboard cutout of President 45 - I have a pic of Mrs. Red next to him.
I just got back from an underground Pres. 47 victory party and there was the same cutout!
Needless to say, I have another pic of Mrs. Red with him.
Ok, back to Gubs! .45 rules, 9 mm drools!
If you recall, the VaMoMe of 2020 featured a cardboard cutout of President 45 - I have a pic of Mrs. Red next to him.
I just got back from an underground Pres. 47 victory party and there was the same cutout!
Needless to say, I have another pic of Mrs. Red with him.
Ok, back to Gubs! .45 rules, 9 mm drools!
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 07:30 PM (2UpC3)
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usually, I just disappoint people. I'm gratified to know I've upped my game to "bitterly."
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 24, 2024 07:22 PM
Would it help if I also said I was vicariously happy when you do well at a competition?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 24, 2024 07:22 PM
Would it help if I also said I was vicariously happy when you do well at a competition?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 24, 2024 07:30 PM (HlyYF)
69
Bigger artillery:
RocketLab Launch - Ice AIS Baby
10:55 PM EST
https://www.youtube.com/live/fps-ilnHsEM
Pad : LC-1B
Location : Maria Peninsula, New Zealand
Rocket : Electron
Live stream starts at T-25:00.
RocketLab Launch - Ice AIS Baby
10:55 PM EST
https://www.youtube.com/live/fps-ilnHsEM
Pad : LC-1B
Location : Maria Peninsula, New Zealand
Rocket : Electron
Live stream starts at T-25:00.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at November 24, 2024 07:31 PM (VNX3d)
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When I chose to carry an autoloader, I spent hours doing draw-chamber-shoot drills. Total time from holster to shots fired was only a fraction of a second slower than a revolver.
If you say so...
If you say so...
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 24, 2024 07:32 PM (mH6SG)
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Glad to see you back, AHL!
I fear that Bidenomics may have somewhat cooled the ardor for the .41 Magnum in some parts.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 24, 2024 07:23 PM (HlyYF)
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I'm not sure if you saw it, but Roy Harrell did a great video on why the .41 Magnum failed to catch on, and he did a side by side comparison. Short version is that it was superior in terms of felt recoil, but only marginally so. Most LEOs figured they may as well get the full punch for the same size and weight.
I fear that Bidenomics may have somewhat cooled the ardor for the .41 Magnum in some parts.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 24, 2024 07:23 PM (HlyYF)
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I'm not sure if you saw it, but Roy Harrell did a great video on why the .41 Magnum failed to catch on, and he did a side by side comparison. Short version is that it was superior in terms of felt recoil, but only marginally so. Most LEOs figured they may as well get the full punch for the same size and weight.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 07:32 PM (ZOv7s)
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When I carry, which is much of the time, there’s one in the chamber. As noted above, your body may not function well enough to run the slide and chamber a round. Additionally, the extra time required may result in you being unable to use the firearm, since many bad situations occur at very close quarters.
Posted by: Coelacanth at November 24, 2024 07:33 PM (nrpZ6)
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Remember, Second Place is First Loser.
Posted by: Coach Duncanthrax at November 24, 2024 07:29 PM (a3Q+t)
DThrax, we didn’t even uncase. So we both tied for second, I guess.
Posted by: Coach Duncanthrax at November 24, 2024 07:29 PM (a3Q+t)
DThrax, we didn’t even uncase. So we both tied for second, I guess.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 07:33 PM (2UpC3)
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Setting aside that this isn't a combat situation, if you train while you fight, it isn't an issue
Are you 100% sure that you'll have use of your off hand in an emergency? What if you're using it to fend off your attacker?
Are you 100% sure that you'll have use of your off hand in an emergency? What if you're using it to fend off your attacker?
Posted by: Oddbob at November 24, 2024 07:34 PM (/y8xj)
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I got to watch all of the Bell Labs science films in my early school years. They were terrific films. However, in hindsight the series was sorely deficient. There wasn't a film about exterior ballistics of small arms projectiles.
Posted by: Gref at November 24, 2024 07:34 PM (aBgBM)
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Come on, I was forced!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 07:28 PM
This is the Gun Thread, not the Pun Thread!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 07:28 PM
This is the Gun Thread, not the Pun Thread!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 24, 2024 07:34 PM (HlyYF)
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 07:35 PM (fghTy)
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Seeing chatter that SpaceX Starship launch number 7 could be NET Jan 11.
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 07:35 PM (IQ6Gq)
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If you say so...
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 24, 2024 07:32 PM (mH6SG)
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Revolvers are faster on first shot by about a second, slower on followup shot, so doing a two-shot drill you can get both comfortably under four seconds.
It took about a year to get that fast - I was around five seconds for a long time, but as it often happens you go slow and then you go fast.
Also, the weapon matters. For reasons I think are obvious, .380 is quicker than .40.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 24, 2024 07:32 PM (mH6SG)
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Revolvers are faster on first shot by about a second, slower on followup shot, so doing a two-shot drill you can get both comfortably under four seconds.
It took about a year to get that fast - I was around five seconds for a long time, but as it often happens you go slow and then you go fast.
Also, the weapon matters. For reasons I think are obvious, .380 is quicker than .40.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 07:36 PM (ZOv7s)
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Carrying without a cartridge in the chamber for a semi auto is a training issue. And the reason that the Israelis did it or Uncle Sam did it was because raw recruits and gun guys may have some overlap but generally not but officers are punished for accidental discharges. Thus, the feel good leave the chamber empty rigmarole. Military practices are not something I would recommend on small arms. And yes, I spent time working for Uncle Sam.
Carrying a double action revolver of modern make (unless it is an obsolete single action type without a transfer bar safety) on an empty chamber went away by the 1900's with the advent of hammer blocks in S&W and Colt. Most modernized revolver now use transfer bar safeties where literally the firing pin cannot physically reach the cartridge primer without pulling the trigger.
So, if carrying a live round in the chamber concerns you, then a) consider the DA/SA with or without a safety, b) a heavy DAO trigger (NY Glock Trigger 1 or Smith 3rd Generation/Beretta Constant Action) without a safety, or c) firearm with a safety. The 1911 is a superb platform but only if you TRAIN with it cocked and locked. Not so good otherwise.
Carrying a double action revolver of modern make (unless it is an obsolete single action type without a transfer bar safety) on an empty chamber went away by the 1900's with the advent of hammer blocks in S&W and Colt. Most modernized revolver now use transfer bar safeties where literally the firing pin cannot physically reach the cartridge primer without pulling the trigger.
So, if carrying a live round in the chamber concerns you, then a) consider the DA/SA with or without a safety, b) a heavy DAO trigger (NY Glock Trigger 1 or Smith 3rd Generation/Beretta Constant Action) without a safety, or c) firearm with a safety. The 1911 is a superb platform but only if you TRAIN with it cocked and locked. Not so good otherwise.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2024 07:36 PM (ctrM5)
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77 Posted by: Gref at November 24, 2024 07:34 PM (aBgBM)
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Aren't they great?!
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 07:35 PM (fghTy)
I learned a lot from those films.
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Aren't they great?!
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 07:35 PM (fghTy)
I learned a lot from those films.
Posted by: Gref at November 24, 2024 07:37 PM (aBgBM)
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Seeing chatter that SpaceX Starship launch number 7 could be NET Jan 11.
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 07:35 PM (IQ6Gq)
I'd like to see it on Jan 20, with an orbit that passes over Washington DC. It would be cool to watch the inauguration viewed from space.
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 07:35 PM (IQ6Gq)
I'd like to see it on Jan 20, with an orbit that passes over Washington DC. It would be cool to watch the inauguration viewed from space.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at November 24, 2024 07:37 PM (VNX3d)
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I carried the S&W MP10 my first ten years in the police department before we switched to 9mm.
I used to kid the guys that we carried the same equipment as Barney Fife including the dump pouches.
Thanks for taking care of your cops Bill Bratton. The best PC we ever had.
I used to kid the guys that we carried the same equipment as Barney Fife including the dump pouches.
Thanks for taking care of your cops Bill Bratton. The best PC we ever had.
Posted by: RetSgtRN at November 24, 2024 07:37 PM (rP0zz)
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Getting back to guns, what type of gun is Snoopy carrying above? Granted, it's a pop gun, but what is it supposed to replicate?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at November 24, 2024 07:38 PM (VNX3d)
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Posted by: Gref at November 24, 2024 07:34 PM (aBgBM)
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Im pretty sure there is one about the coriolis effect which has a cannon in the illustration if I remember correctly!
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Im pretty sure there is one about the coriolis effect which has a cannon in the illustration if I remember correctly!
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 07:38 PM (fghTy)
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Tomorrow, in 1871, the National Rifle Association sent out its first fundraising letter.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 24, 2024 07:38 PM (hovnC)
87
Lena Miculek is definitely not a fan of wobbly shit.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 07:38 PM (v23vE)
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My neighbor here at our SW FL winter home location, he and his wife live here year round, wants a handgun.
He said the week following the latest hurricane, the power all out, was a spooky experience. Ours is a gated community, but in power outages such as when hurricanes hit, the gates are up all over town, and the sketchy characters go prowling. Thus the want for a gun.
He wants something small to carry and to have on the nightstand, so I said let's go to the range which has a super gun store, and check out some .380s.
He can try my old Sig P232 which is almost identical to a Walther PPK, and the range has loaners, the new S&W Bodyguard 2.0 and the Glock 42, either of which might be a nice choice.
Any comments about either of these two?
He said the week following the latest hurricane, the power all out, was a spooky experience. Ours is a gated community, but in power outages such as when hurricanes hit, the gates are up all over town, and the sketchy characters go prowling. Thus the want for a gun.
He wants something small to carry and to have on the nightstand, so I said let's go to the range which has a super gun store, and check out some .380s.
He can try my old Sig P232 which is almost identical to a Walther PPK, and the range has loaners, the new S&W Bodyguard 2.0 and the Glock 42, either of which might be a nice choice.
Any comments about either of these two?
Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 24, 2024 07:38 PM (KiBMU)
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I carry at all times except in the shower. If I’m in bed, there’s always a firearm with a chambered round within reach. It’s the way.
Posted by: Eromero at November 24, 2024 07:41 PM (LHPAg)
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I'm not sure if you saw it, but Roy Harrell did a great video on why the .41 Magnum failed to catch on, and he did a side by side comparison. Short version is that it was superior in terms of felt recoil, but only marginally so. Most LEOs figured they may as well get the full punch for the same size and weight.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
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Both the 41 Magnum and the 10 mm had the same problem. Poor initial ammunition choices for a new handgun. The intended 41 Magnum service round was about the potency of the 38-40 but Police Department unfortunately bought the cheaper hunting ammo which was too powerful as it overpenetrated and had a tendency to lead up the revolver due to its very fast velocity.
The 10mm, likewise, was really too potent for street cops due to its original Norma firebreathing load. FBI repeatedly due to training problems asked for a reduction in the load until it resembled the 40 S&W. Smith which was making the FBI 10mm pistols realized that they could eliminate the now vacant space in the 10mm cartridge and make it fit a 9mm frame. Thus, the 40 S&W was born.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
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Both the 41 Magnum and the 10 mm had the same problem. Poor initial ammunition choices for a new handgun. The intended 41 Magnum service round was about the potency of the 38-40 but Police Department unfortunately bought the cheaper hunting ammo which was too powerful as it overpenetrated and had a tendency to lead up the revolver due to its very fast velocity.
The 10mm, likewise, was really too potent for street cops due to its original Norma firebreathing load. FBI repeatedly due to training problems asked for a reduction in the load until it resembled the 40 S&W. Smith which was making the FBI 10mm pistols realized that they could eliminate the now vacant space in the 10mm cartridge and make it fit a 9mm frame. Thus, the 40 S&W was born.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2024 07:42 PM (ctrM5)
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84 Getting back to guns, what type of gun is Snoopy carrying above? Granted, it's a pop gun, but what is it supposed to replicate?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at November 24, 2024 07:38 PM
A blunderbuss.
If loaded with shot, there have been times at my farm where I might have been able to bag 5-6 turkeys with a single shot when they were approaching me in a line.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at November 24, 2024 07:38 PM
A blunderbuss.
If loaded with shot, there have been times at my farm where I might have been able to bag 5-6 turkeys with a single shot when they were approaching me in a line.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 24, 2024 07:42 PM (HlyYF)
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Are you 100% sure that you'll have use of your off hand in an emergency? What if you're using it to fend off your attacker?
Posted by: Oddbob at November 24, 2024 07:34 PM (/y8xj)
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What if my right arm is disabled before I can draw? What if they have the muzzle to my head before I know they are there?
As I said, you have to look at the totality of the risk matrix. All firearms do is offer options.
If you carry with one in the pipe, you eliminate some problems but create new ones. For example, base model Glock-style weapons can be accidentally fired on the draw and we've all seen the videos.
Pistols with manual safeties create the risk that you fail to disengage it. Or that it was disengaged and reengage it. Or that it was off and you shoot prematurely.
Put simply, if you aggregate all the unintentional discharges and compare them to failures of self-defense specifically because a round was not in the chamber, I think the weight of incidence is on the former rather than the latter.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 24, 2024 07:34 PM (/y8xj)
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What if my right arm is disabled before I can draw? What if they have the muzzle to my head before I know they are there?
As I said, you have to look at the totality of the risk matrix. All firearms do is offer options.
If you carry with one in the pipe, you eliminate some problems but create new ones. For example, base model Glock-style weapons can be accidentally fired on the draw and we've all seen the videos.
Pistols with manual safeties create the risk that you fail to disengage it. Or that it was disengaged and reengage it. Or that it was off and you shoot prematurely.
Put simply, if you aggregate all the unintentional discharges and compare them to failures of self-defense specifically because a round was not in the chamber, I think the weight of incidence is on the former rather than the latter.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 07:42 PM (ZOv7s)
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carry at all times except in the shower. If I’m in bed, there’s always a firearm with a chambered round within reach. It’s the way.
Posted by: Eromero at November 24, 2024 07:41 PM (LHPAg)
These are words of steel.
Copper and lead, too.
Posted by: Eromero at November 24, 2024 07:41 PM (LHPAg)
These are words of steel.
Copper and lead, too.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 07:42 PM (2UpC3)
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Lena Miculek is definitely not a fan of wobbly shit.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 07:38 PM
Because I'm a giver...
https://www.youtube.com/watch
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 07:38 PM
Because I'm a giver...
https://www.youtube.com/watch
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 07:45 PM (Wnv9h)
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16 Good evening Horde. Thanks Weasel! BTW, check your email.
I am pleased to report that I've (mostly) cured my low and left problem. For me, the problem was the three fingers of the trigger hand wrapping around the grip. If I keep those at rest and isolate the movement of the trigger finger, my success rate skyrockets. The new grip still isn't fully intuitive but that's what practice is for. Had a good outing at the range on Friday. Look forward to watching the video in the content.
Posted by: TRex
It is not a target grip but one of the reasons for using a crush grip aka gorilla grip is to stop your other fingers from milking the grip like a milking a cow. You get repeatability with a crush grip at a small cost of top most accuracy. But, then again target grip is lousy for weapons retention in a struggle at bad breath range.
For most of us, it is simply easier to have one master grip and use it on all the firearms that one owns but that requires proper fit to the hand and sending ones that do not fit (or cannot be made to fit without a bunch of $ and time) down the road.
I am pleased to report that I've (mostly) cured my low and left problem. For me, the problem was the three fingers of the trigger hand wrapping around the grip. If I keep those at rest and isolate the movement of the trigger finger, my success rate skyrockets. The new grip still isn't fully intuitive but that's what practice is for. Had a good outing at the range on Friday. Look forward to watching the video in the content.
Posted by: TRex
It is not a target grip but one of the reasons for using a crush grip aka gorilla grip is to stop your other fingers from milking the grip like a milking a cow. You get repeatability with a crush grip at a small cost of top most accuracy. But, then again target grip is lousy for weapons retention in a struggle at bad breath range.
For most of us, it is simply easier to have one master grip and use it on all the firearms that one owns but that requires proper fit to the hand and sending ones that do not fit (or cannot be made to fit without a bunch of $ and time) down the road.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2024 07:46 PM (ctrM5)
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If .41 Magnum is your thing, and ammo is scarce, consider the greatest (according to their unbiased catalog) revolver ever made, The Herter's .401 Powermag!
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 24, 2024 07:47 PM (gm9Sb)
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Evening all! Appendix carry is a good test of confidence in carrying one in the chamber.
Posted by: JSpicy at November 24, 2024 07:48 PM (UAP++)
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Carrying a double action revolver of modern make (unless it is an obsolete single action type without a transfer bar safety) on an empty chamber went away by the 1900's with the advent of hammer blocks in S&W and Colt. Most modernized revolver now use transfer bar safeties where literally the firing pin cannot physically reach the cartridge primer without pulling the trigger.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2024 07:36 PM (ctrM5)
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One of the virtues of modern revolvers is that they sidestep this debate. The DA trigger greatly reduces the risk of unintentional discharge and loading/unloading likewise has zero risk.
I like the simplicity of the revolver, have gotten pretty good at DA shooting (which is something of an art form), and that is my EDC. Until the canoe accident, of course.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2024 07:36 PM (ctrM5)
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One of the virtues of modern revolvers is that they sidestep this debate. The DA trigger greatly reduces the risk of unintentional discharge and loading/unloading likewise has zero risk.
I like the simplicity of the revolver, have gotten pretty good at DA shooting (which is something of an art form), and that is my EDC. Until the canoe accident, of course.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 07:48 PM (ZOv7s)
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And now, drum roll please, Range Report: A craftsman and his tools edition.
The last few matches I've not shot well, Practice seems okay and I put off the occasional flier to my inexperience. Though, I did drop a shot at 1,000 yards which I believe should have at least been in the 9 ring. Yesterday was our monthly silhouette match, so the day before, I headed out to do some checking on elevations, record DA, etc. Everything seemed to go well until yesterday morning, and, suddenly, once again, I was all over the place. A match I was well set up to easily get close to at least 15 for 20..I went 7 for 20. I was really surprised, to say the least.
I mentioned to Mike, one of our better shooters, I was surprised at how poorly I shot and thought perhaps I'd messed up and should have cleaned before I practiced. He mentioned he's found rifles have to be pretty dirty before they really start losing accuracy. He suggested I might have burned the barrel out. With that in mind I decided to clean the rifle then measure the chamber. Well, so much for cleaning. The chamber is so far out of spec it's not even funny. So, new barrel time. And, bonus, I can blame my tools! #winning!
The last few matches I've not shot well, Practice seems okay and I put off the occasional flier to my inexperience. Though, I did drop a shot at 1,000 yards which I believe should have at least been in the 9 ring. Yesterday was our monthly silhouette match, so the day before, I headed out to do some checking on elevations, record DA, etc. Everything seemed to go well until yesterday morning, and, suddenly, once again, I was all over the place. A match I was well set up to easily get close to at least 15 for 20..I went 7 for 20. I was really surprised, to say the least.
I mentioned to Mike, one of our better shooters, I was surprised at how poorly I shot and thought perhaps I'd messed up and should have cleaned before I practiced. He mentioned he's found rifles have to be pretty dirty before they really start losing accuracy. He suggested I might have burned the barrel out. With that in mind I decided to clean the rifle then measure the chamber. Well, so much for cleaning. The chamber is so far out of spec it's not even funny. So, new barrel time. And, bonus, I can blame my tools! #winning!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 24, 2024 07:49 PM (tT6L1)
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100!
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 07:49 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 07:50 PM (Wnv9h)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NEXT Year In Corsicana - again! ~ at November 24, 2024 07:51 PM (hOUT3)
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Looks like most everyone carries with one ready to go!
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 07:52 PM (RG6z4)
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Blake- What Caliber and what was your round count on the barrel?
Posted by: DBCooper at November 24, 2024 07:52 PM (y1Mvi)
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If .41 Magnum is your thing, and ammo is scarce, consider the greatest (according to their unbiased catalog) revolver ever made, The Herter's .401 Powermag!
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 24, 2024 07:47 PM (gm9Sb)
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My favorite magnum is .32 H&R. Used to be rare and pricey, now it's more available, though the price sucks. Happily, .32 Long makes affordable practice ammo.
Firing it side by side with a .38, one gets greater speed, much less felt recoil, superior ballistics and an extra round in the cylinder. Lucky Gunner's Kyle Baker agrees, which just shows how intelligent he is.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 24, 2024 07:47 PM (gm9Sb)
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My favorite magnum is .32 H&R. Used to be rare and pricey, now it's more available, though the price sucks. Happily, .32 Long makes affordable practice ammo.
Firing it side by side with a .38, one gets greater speed, much less felt recoil, superior ballistics and an extra round in the cylinder. Lucky Gunner's Kyle Baker agrees, which just shows how intelligent he is.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 07:52 PM (ZOv7s)
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94 Lena Miculek is definitely not a fan of wobbly shit.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 07:38 PM
Because I'm a giver...
https://www.youtube.com/watch
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 07:45 PM (Wnv9h)
RMBS, partial link, maybe? The one above takes me to my YouTube landing page.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 07:38 PM
Because I'm a giver...
https://www.youtube.com/watch
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 07:45 PM (Wnv9h)
RMBS, partial link, maybe? The one above takes me to my YouTube landing page.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 07:52 PM (v23vE)
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On carrying with round in chamber: To me it would depend on a realistic assessment on how likely you are to have to quick draw and shoot with very little warning opposed to the vastly decreased likelihood of an accidental discharge if the chamber is empty. As I don't live or am on foot in a blue ghetto often and don't frequent high crime situations, I generally don't carry chambered.
Posted by: azjaeger at November 24, 2024 07:52 PM (3/XaG)
108
Re this week's videos: by some strange coincidence, lately I have begun to yearn to acquire a S&W Model 10. I'd really like to find an old Victory Model in shootable shape, but I realize that's a pipe dream. However, I think having a Model 10 on hand to use instructing some novice shooters might be a good idea. Anyone have thoughts on the Model 10 as a trainer for new shooters?
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at November 24, 2024 07:53 PM (Hdixl)
109
@DB cooper, about 1,200 rounds, 30.06. Which is why I was caught off guard. I was expecting to get over 2K rounds before barrel replacement.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 24, 2024 07:55 PM (tT6L1)
110
Interesting, blake. I have two rifles where super accurate went south rapidly. .243 Winchester and .223 WSSM. Velocities 3000 to 4000 fps.
My bore scope showed mucho chamber/rifling corrosion.
It will cost about a grand to get a REM 4700 barrel. And .223 WSSM isn’t even made anymore.
Le Sigh.
My bore scope showed mucho chamber/rifling corrosion.
It will cost about a grand to get a REM 4700 barrel. And .223 WSSM isn’t even made anymore.
Le Sigh.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 07:55 PM (2UpC3)
111
Any comments about either of these two?
Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 24, 2024 07:38 PM (KiBMU)
Mr. Gaga, a couple of questions for your friend:
- Weapon ergonomics: It may look great on paper, but if doesn't feel good in your friend's hand, or if they can't manipulate the controls, it's probably a no-go.
- Physical strength: How's your friend's grip strength? Can he (or his wife) hold the handgun when it's firing full power defensive loads? Does arthritis (or something else) prevent them from manipulating the slide or disassembling it for cleaning?
- Is small the way to go? For most, small, concealable handguns are some of the most difficult to learn how to shoot accurately, especially under stress. I wouldn't recommend one as a first gun for a newbie shooter. Can he afford one handgun (a larger one) for home defense and another for the carry role?
Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 24, 2024 07:38 PM (KiBMU)
Mr. Gaga, a couple of questions for your friend:
- Weapon ergonomics: It may look great on paper, but if doesn't feel good in your friend's hand, or if they can't manipulate the controls, it's probably a no-go.
- Physical strength: How's your friend's grip strength? Can he (or his wife) hold the handgun when it's firing full power defensive loads? Does arthritis (or something else) prevent them from manipulating the slide or disassembling it for cleaning?
- Is small the way to go? For most, small, concealable handguns are some of the most difficult to learn how to shoot accurately, especially under stress. I wouldn't recommend one as a first gun for a newbie shooter. Can he afford one handgun (a larger one) for home defense and another for the carry role?
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 07:55 PM (AiJK3)
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Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at November 24, 2024 07:53 PM (Hdixl)
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Check around for police trade-ins. Bud's used to have a bunch of them.
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Check around for police trade-ins. Bud's used to have a bunch of them.
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 07:55 PM (RG6z4)
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105 You will never wear out the Herter's .401 Powermag.You will also never find ammunition for it. All kidding aside, those big Herter's single actions were well built, by Sauer IIRC, and if you run across one in .357 you might have a real bargain.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 24, 2024 07:55 PM (gm9Sb)
114
Blake, Cool, Thanks. I'm at 1248 on my Creedmoor 6.5 and think I am getting close.
Posted by: DBCooper at November 24, 2024 07:56 PM (y1Mvi)
115
Howdy.
Went to the range last week. Found out my used Colt .357 works fine. Also found out I need to go back and (in Allen Iverson voice) practice.
Went to the range last week. Found out my used Colt .357 works fine. Also found out I need to go back and (in Allen Iverson voice) practice.
Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at November 24, 2024 07:57 PM (sAmhv)
116
59 If I had a CZ Model 75, I'd keep one in the chamber. State law has no requirement to travel with your pew pew in a 'safe' condition.
Posted by: Tonypete
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Generally states prohibit transport of loaded long arms due to poaching and also risk to others during hunting season. Aside from states like NY, NJ, CA, HI, IL, etc., most states allow people with permits (or even constitutional carry states) to carry loaded handguns. The federal loophole for people transversing non-free states is that it be unloaded, in a locked container, and not accessible to those in the vehicle readily.
Posted by: Tonypete
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Generally states prohibit transport of loaded long arms due to poaching and also risk to others during hunting season. Aside from states like NY, NJ, CA, HI, IL, etc., most states allow people with permits (or even constitutional carry states) to carry loaded handguns. The federal loophole for people transversing non-free states is that it be unloaded, in a locked container, and not accessible to those in the vehicle readily.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2024 07:58 PM (ctrM5)
117
Any comments about either of these two?
Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 24, 2024 07:38 PM (KiBMU)
One more question to ask your friend: How committed are they to train w/ any firearm they acquire? If they plan to carry the firearm, I'd say training becomes a requirement, not a nice to have.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 24, 2024 07:38 PM (KiBMU)
One more question to ask your friend: How committed are they to train w/ any firearm they acquire? If they plan to carry the firearm, I'd say training becomes a requirement, not a nice to have.
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 07:58 PM (AiJK3)
118
When the "weak hand" theorem becomes necessity.
I've got to go lefty on everything "handgun", from here on out.
Including carry.
I can still manage a good cigar with the (formerly) strong hand, though. And sip a bourbon. And kludge around a keyboard, a bit.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
I've got to go lefty on everything "handgun", from here on out.
Including carry.
I can still manage a good cigar with the (formerly) strong hand, though. And sip a bourbon. And kludge around a keyboard, a bit.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at November 24, 2024 08:00 PM (Xo+UM)
119
My bore scope showed mucho chamber/rifling corrosion.
It will cost about a grand to get a REM 4700 barrel. And .223 WSSM isn’t even made anymore.
Le Sigh.
Posted by: RI Red
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Did you mean Remington 7400?
It will cost about a grand to get a REM 4700 barrel. And .223 WSSM isn’t even made anymore.
Le Sigh.
Posted by: RI Red
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Did you mean Remington 7400?
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2024 08:00 PM (ctrM5)
120
So, hate to be that guy, but ...
Food Thread had 354 comments. We are on pace, but need to keep it up. We don't want Weasel's Thanksgiving week to start with an early-morning Zoom call, do we?
DO WE?
Food Thread had 354 comments. We are on pace, but need to keep it up. We don't want Weasel's Thanksgiving week to start with an early-morning Zoom call, do we?
DO WE?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 08:01 PM (v23vE)
121
On carrying with round in chamber: To me it would depend on a realistic assessment on how likely you are to have to quick draw and shoot with very little warning opposed to the vastly decreased likelihood of an accidental discharge if the chamber is empty. As I don't live or am on foot in a blue ghetto often and don't frequent high crime situations, I generally don't carry chambered.
Posted by: azjaeger at November 24, 2024 07:52 PM (3/XaG)
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Yes, it varies for each individual, that's all I'm saying.
Posted by: azjaeger at November 24, 2024 07:52 PM (3/XaG)
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Yes, it varies for each individual, that's all I'm saying.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 08:01 PM (ZOv7s)
122
Whig, thanks. My occasional dyslexia shown through.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 08:01 PM (2UpC3)
123
Any comments about either of these two?
Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 24, 2024 07:38 PM (KiBMU)
Mr. Gaga, a couple of questions for your friend:
- Weapon ergonomics: It may look great on paper, but if doesn't feel good in your friend's hand, or if they can't manipulate the controls, it's probably a no-go.
- Physical strength: How's your friend's grip strength? Can he (or his wife) hold the handgun when it's firing full power defensive loads? Does arthritis (or something else) prevent them from manipulating the slide or disassembling it for cleaning?
- Is small the way to go? For most, small, concealable handguns are some of the most difficult to learn how to shoot accurately, especially under stress. I wouldn't recommend one as a first gun for a newbie shooter. Can he afford one handgun (a larger one) for home defense and another for the carry role?
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 07:55 PM (AiJK3)
A couple more questions
> Would a revolver be an easier solution, with the simpler manual of arms?
> How much care is your friend likely to spend in maintenance? Rotating magazines?
Yes, I like revolvers, but pistols carry more rounds. Where is that trade-off in their mind.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 24, 2024 07:38 PM (KiBMU)
Mr. Gaga, a couple of questions for your friend:
- Weapon ergonomics: It may look great on paper, but if doesn't feel good in your friend's hand, or if they can't manipulate the controls, it's probably a no-go.
- Physical strength: How's your friend's grip strength? Can he (or his wife) hold the handgun when it's firing full power defensive loads? Does arthritis (or something else) prevent them from manipulating the slide or disassembling it for cleaning?
- Is small the way to go? For most, small, concealable handguns are some of the most difficult to learn how to shoot accurately, especially under stress. I wouldn't recommend one as a first gun for a newbie shooter. Can he afford one handgun (a larger one) for home defense and another for the carry role?
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 07:55 PM (AiJK3)
A couple more questions
> Would a revolver be an easier solution, with the simpler manual of arms?
> How much care is your friend likely to spend in maintenance? Rotating magazines?
Yes, I like revolvers, but pistols carry more rounds. Where is that trade-off in their mind.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at November 24, 2024 08:01 PM (VNX3d)
124
RMBS, partial link, maybe? The one above takes me to my YouTube landing page.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 07:52 PM
Crap. Try this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeQNM4AV-3U
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 07:52 PM
Crap. Try this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeQNM4AV-3U
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 08:02 PM (Wnv9h)
125
I've got to go lefty on everything "handgun", from here on out.
Including carry.
I can still manage a good cigar with the (formerly) strong hand, though. And sip a bourbon. And kludge around a keyboard, a bit.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at November 24, 2024 08:00 PM (Xo+UM)
Howdy, sir! Glad to hear you've found workarounds that you can bring to bear.
Including carry.
I can still manage a good cigar with the (formerly) strong hand, though. And sip a bourbon. And kludge around a keyboard, a bit.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at November 24, 2024 08:00 PM (Xo+UM)
Howdy, sir! Glad to hear you've found workarounds that you can bring to bear.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 08:03 PM (v23vE)
126
Anyone have thoughts on the Model 10 as a trainer for new shooters?
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at November 24, 2024 07:53 PM (Hdixl)
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If you are open to it, consider .32 S&W long. They're dirt cheap online, ammo is cheap, and the recoil is very, very mild.
Same fundamentals. Also, unlike .22LR, it is centerfire and actually brings a little heat. Teddy R equipped NYPD with them back in the day because the cops were more accurate with them.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at November 24, 2024 07:53 PM (Hdixl)
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If you are open to it, consider .32 S&W long. They're dirt cheap online, ammo is cheap, and the recoil is very, very mild.
Same fundamentals. Also, unlike .22LR, it is centerfire and actually brings a little heat. Teddy R equipped NYPD with them back in the day because the cops were more accurate with them.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 08:04 PM (ZOv7s)
127
I can still manage a good cigar with the (formerly) strong hand, though. And sip a bourbon. And kludge around a keyboard, a bit.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at November 24, 2024 08:00 PM
*raises glass*
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at November 24, 2024 08:00 PM
*raises glass*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 08:04 PM (Wnv9h)
128
108 Re this week's videos: by some strange coincidence, lately I have begun to yearn to acquire a S&W Model 10. I'd really like to find an old Victory Model in shootable shape, but I realize that's a pipe dream. However, I think having a Model 10 on hand to use instructing some novice shooters might be a good idea. Anyone have thoughts on the Model 10 as a trainer for new shooters?
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen
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Good to go with the Model 10 but do not let them shoot it single action. Train them to shoot it double action as intended. Start with full wadcutter ammo and then work up slowly with it.
Easy to teach newbies how to check if loaded and how to load them. The major drawback is the heavy double action trigger but a Smith is generally pretty smooth making it easier to master than a Colt (old style). Those tend to stack a bit in double action due to the v mainspring binding a bit.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen
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Good to go with the Model 10 but do not let them shoot it single action. Train them to shoot it double action as intended. Start with full wadcutter ammo and then work up slowly with it.
Easy to teach newbies how to check if loaded and how to load them. The major drawback is the heavy double action trigger but a Smith is generally pretty smooth making it easier to master than a Colt (old style). Those tend to stack a bit in double action due to the v mainspring binding a bit.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2024 08:04 PM (ctrM5)
129
Crap. Try this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeQNM4AV-3U
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 08:02 PM (Wnv9h)
2nd try was a charm. Thanks! I'm already following Heather Lynn on Instagram because she's funny, but knowing that she's a student of the ballistic arts just enhances my appreciation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeQNM4AV-3U
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 08:02 PM (Wnv9h)
2nd try was a charm. Thanks! I'm already following Heather Lynn on Instagram because she's funny, but knowing that she's a student of the ballistic arts just enhances my appreciation.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 08:05 PM (v23vE)
130
Mr. Gaga, FYI, Walther just re-released the Walther PPK and PPK/S in .32 ACP. The .380 ACP PPKs have a reputation for being a bit rough in the hand when fired because of the PPK's design as a straight blowback handgun. The .32 ACP is supposed to easier to handle due to its milder load. Supposedly, they're out there, but I haven't seen any in the wild yet. $1,099 MSRP. .32 ACP might be easier for your friend's wife to handle vice .380 ACP.
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 08:05 PM (AiJK3)
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 24, 2024 08:06 PM (k1CAF)
132
A couple more questions
> Would a revolver be an easier solution, with the simpler manual of arms?
> How much care is your friend likely to spend in maintenance? Rotating magazines?
Yes, I like revolvers, but pistols carry more rounds. Where is that trade-off in their mind.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at November 24, 2024 08:01 PM (VNX3d)
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You beat me to it: "Have you considered a revolver?"
> Would a revolver be an easier solution, with the simpler manual of arms?
> How much care is your friend likely to spend in maintenance? Rotating magazines?
Yes, I like revolvers, but pistols carry more rounds. Where is that trade-off in their mind.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at November 24, 2024 08:01 PM (VNX3d)
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You beat me to it: "Have you considered a revolver?"
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 08:06 PM (ZOv7s)
133
By the way, I made an executive decision, pulled apart the Savage to get it ready for a new barrel. The scope was moved to a regular Howa 1500 in 308 with basically a hunting profile barrel. Originally I was going to rebarrel the Howa in 6.5 Creedmoor but, since I want to keep shooting, it stays 308 for now. I figure there's no way I can do worse than what was happening with the Savage. Friday I head out to zero and to see if I can get anything resembling a group from the rifle.
Should be a hoot.
Should be a hoot.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 24, 2024 08:07 PM (tT6L1)
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Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 07:55 PM (RG6z4)
Thanks, Weasel. I did a quick look at Bud's and they don't appear to have any available.
Thanks, Weasel. I did a quick look at Bud's and they don't appear to have any available.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at November 24, 2024 08:09 PM (Hdixl)
135
Blake and RI Red,
Consider loading only with single base powders as the double based tend to burn up barrels quicker due to their general higher burn temperature generated.
You may lose a bit in velocity is the tradeoff but often that can result in a bit more accuracy.
RI Red, sorry about your 7400, they are nice rifles you do not have one that jams but replacing the barrel is a PITA even when you could easily get replacements.
Consider loading only with single base powders as the double based tend to burn up barrels quicker due to their general higher burn temperature generated.
You may lose a bit in velocity is the tradeoff but often that can result in a bit more accuracy.
RI Red, sorry about your 7400, they are nice rifles you do not have one that jams but replacing the barrel is a PITA even when you could easily get replacements.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2024 08:09 PM (ctrM5)
136
Great gun thread, Weasel, thanks. I miss the sci-fi classics, though.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 24, 2024 08:09 PM (CHHv1)
137
Mr. Gaga, FYI, Walther just re-released the Walther PPK and PPK/S in .32 ACP. The .380 ACP PPKs have a reputation for being a bit rough in the hand when fired because of the PPK's design as a straight blowback handgun. The .32 ACP is supposed to easier to handle due to its milder load. Supposedly, they're out there, but I haven't seen any in the wild yet. $1,099 MSRP. .32 ACP might be easier for your friend's wife to handle vice .380 ACP.
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 08:05 PM (AiJK3)
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FINALLY! This is awesome news. Too bad about the price.
A cheaper alternative if you're willing to consider it, is some of the European police surplus that pops up online.
Yes, .32 ACP is much better than .380 in the same platform. It's off the beaten path, but the French Walther PP clones are superb.
My oldest really likes a Zastava M70 was dirt cheap. SAO, but it would work for home defense.
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 08:05 PM (AiJK3)
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FINALLY! This is awesome news. Too bad about the price.
A cheaper alternative if you're willing to consider it, is some of the European police surplus that pops up online.
Yes, .32 ACP is much better than .380 in the same platform. It's off the beaten path, but the French Walther PP clones are superb.
My oldest really likes a Zastava M70 was dirt cheap. SAO, but it would work for home defense.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 08:10 PM (ZOv7s)
138
133 By the way, I made an executive decision, pulled apart the Savage to get it ready for a new barrel. The scope was moved to a regular Howa 1500 in 308 with basically a hunting profile barrel. Originally I was going to rebarrel the Howa in 6.5 Creedmoor but, since I want to keep shooting, it stays 308 for now. I figure there's no way I can do worse than what was happening with the Savage. Friday I head out to zero and to see if I can get anything resembling a group from the rifle.
Should be a hoot.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 24, 2024 08:07 PM (tT6L1)
Blake, I'm intrigued by your "since I want to keep shooting" aside. Is that because of ammo cost differential, or round performance, or some third thing that I'm not yet smart enough to think of?
Should be a hoot.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 24, 2024 08:07 PM (tT6L1)
Blake, I'm intrigued by your "since I want to keep shooting" aside. Is that because of ammo cost differential, or round performance, or some third thing that I'm not yet smart enough to think of?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 08:10 PM (v23vE)
139
So, I'm an hour late to the gunthered. I was busy catching up on all the memes & xweets. ALL of them.
Thought some here might not have seen these
This pic
https://accordingtohoyt.com/wp-content/uploads/
2024/11/1706376859123453963.jpg
And in similar vein, Is this every man's dream basement? (video 1:02)
https://xcancel.com/TheFigen_/status/
1860427316502937925
Sorry for the broken URLs. Turns out Bitly has now limited free accounts to 10 short-urls per month. Used to be a lot better site.
Thought some here might not have seen these
This pic
https://accordingtohoyt.com/wp-content/uploads/
2024/11/1706376859123453963.jpg
And in similar vein, Is this every man's dream basement? (video 1:02)
https://xcancel.com/TheFigen_/status/
1860427316502937925
Sorry for the broken URLs. Turns out Bitly has now limited free accounts to 10 short-urls per month. Used to be a lot better site.
Posted by: mindful webworker - aw, shoot at November 24, 2024 08:10 PM (sFBIQ)
140
Revolvers make fine self defense weapons, and with a little practice can be pretty accurate, even in DA. Focus on fundamentals!!
https://tinyurl.com/2tpwht9u
Revolvers make fine self defense weapons, and with a little practice can be pretty accurate, even in DA. Focus on fundamentals!!
https://tinyurl.com/2tpwht9u
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 08:10 PM (fghTy)
141
RMBS, I wonder if Lena M needs a boyfriend.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 08:10 PM (2UpC3)
142
With any, I mean any, semi-auto, your trigger finger placement is key when drawing. Keep it the heck away from the trigger. Point that finger the same direction as the barrel is pointed, keep it rested against the slide, drop the safety, and only touch the trigger when you know what you mean to shoot.
Posted by: Eromero at November 24, 2024 08:10 PM (LHPAg)
143
Thanks, Weasel. I did a quick look at Bud's and they don't appear to have any available.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen
Try AIM Surplus. There are also some by sellers on Gunbroker at a regular basis. These will all be relatively later numbered models, not the older and collectible WWII era Victory and older models.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen
Try AIM Surplus. There are also some by sellers on Gunbroker at a regular basis. These will all be relatively later numbered models, not the older and collectible WWII era Victory and older models.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2024 08:11 PM (ctrM5)
144
142 With any, I mean any, semi-auto, your trigger finger placement is key when drawing. Keep it the heck away from the trigger. Point that finger the same direction as the barrel is pointed, keep it rested against the slide, drop the safety, and only touch the trigger when you know what you mean to shoot.
Posted by: Eromero
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Yep, in register, it takes a mere microsecond to move the finger to the trigger if needed. Carrying a handgun with a lighter trigger requires ruthless shoot, don't shoot training.
Posted by: Eromero
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Yep, in register, it takes a mere microsecond to move the finger to the trigger if needed. Carrying a handgun with a lighter trigger requires ruthless shoot, don't shoot training.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2024 08:13 PM (ctrM5)
145
Great gun thread, Weasel, thanks. I miss the sci-fi classics, though.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 24, 2024 08:09 PM (CHHv1)
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Back next week. I had one ready to go and realized at the last minute it would not embed into a thread.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 24, 2024 08:09 PM (CHHv1)
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Back next week. I had one ready to go and realized at the last minute it would not embed into a thread.
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 08:13 PM (fghTy)
146
HIYA' NURSE! I see the Seahawks beat the Cardinals today.
Posted by: DBCooper at November 24, 2024 08:13 PM (y1Mvi)
147
@ whig, I burned up the barrel on the Savage through pushing bullets a lot faster down the barrel than it was really designed for.
Thousand yard matches kind of need the velocity.
I'm planning to move to 6.5 Creedmore in one rifle. I'm also taking a long hard look at 6.5x284 Norma, which is a real barrel burner. We shall see.
Thousand yard matches kind of need the velocity.
I'm planning to move to 6.5 Creedmore in one rifle. I'm also taking a long hard look at 6.5x284 Norma, which is a real barrel burner. We shall see.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 24, 2024 08:14 PM (tT6L1)
148
If you are open to it, consider .32 S&W long. They're dirt cheap online, ammo is cheap, and the recoil is very, very mild.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 08:04 PM (ZOv7s)
I just hate to succumb to caliber creep. I've already got plenty of .38 Special ammo for my snubby and would prefer something that will eat the ammo I have.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 08:04 PM (ZOv7s)
I just hate to succumb to caliber creep. I've already got plenty of .38 Special ammo for my snubby and would prefer something that will eat the ammo I have.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at November 24, 2024 08:14 PM (Hdixl)
149
RMBS, I wonder if Lena M needs a boyfriend.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 08:10 PM
Or if SEH has a single sister.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 08:10 PM
Or if SEH has a single sister.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 08:14 PM (Wnv9h)
150
FINALLY! This is awesome news. Too bad about the price.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 08:10 PM (ZOv7s)
One of the PPK variants Walther is releasing includes a threaded barrel from the factory, a first for the PPK in its nearly 100-year history. You can now LARP as 007 with a suppressed PPK in hand, just like the books and movies.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 08:10 PM (ZOv7s)
One of the PPK variants Walther is releasing includes a threaded barrel from the factory, a first for the PPK in its nearly 100-year history. You can now LARP as 007 with a suppressed PPK in hand, just like the books and movies.
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 08:14 PM (AiJK3)
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Whig, can you give some examples of single base and double based powders? I’m familiar with the reference, but not the details.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 08:14 PM (2UpC3)
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Blake, I'm intrigued by your "since I want to keep shooting" aside. Is that because of ammo cost differential, or round performance, or some third thing that I'm not yet smart enough to think of?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 08:10 PM (v23vE)
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Next match I'm shooting is Dec 7. I don't think I can get a new barrel and loads worked out for the Savage by then. So, I'll shoot factory loads in the Howa and have fun. Plus, if I don't care if I ruin the barrel on the Howa. It's getting a new barrel in the next two or three months anyway,.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 08:10 PM (v23vE)
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Next match I'm shooting is Dec 7. I don't think I can get a new barrel and loads worked out for the Savage by then. So, I'll shoot factory loads in the Howa and have fun. Plus, if I don't care if I ruin the barrel on the Howa. It's getting a new barrel in the next two or three months anyway,.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 24, 2024 08:17 PM (tT6L1)
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146 HIYA' NURSE! I see the Seahawks beat the Cardinals today.
Posted by: DBCooper
Yep! Son #1 was at the game. It was chilly and wet and he had a blast!
Posted by: DBCooper
Yep! Son #1 was at the game. It was chilly and wet and he had a blast!
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 24, 2024 08:17 PM (4ynbb)
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Try AIM Surplus. There are also some by sellers on Gunbroker at a regular basis. These will all be relatively later numbered models, not the older and collectible WWII era Victory and older models.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2024 08:11 PM (ctrM5)
Don't wait too long if you see something you like. They'll go quickly at the prices you see on AIM Surplus.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2024 08:11 PM (ctrM5)
Don't wait too long if you see something you like. They'll go quickly at the prices you see on AIM Surplus.
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 08:17 PM (AiJK3)
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Mr. Gaga, a couple of questions for your friend:
- Weapon ergonomics: It may look great on paper, but if doesn't feel good in your friend's hand, or if they can't manipulate the controls, it's probably a no-go.
- Physical strength: How's your friend's grip strength? Can he (or his wife) hold the handgun when it's firing full power defensive loads? Does arthritis (or something else) prevent them from manipulating the slide or disassembling it for cleaning?
- Is small the way to go? For most, small, concealable handguns are some of the most difficult to learn how to shoot accurately, especially under stress. I wouldn't recommend one as a first gun for a newbie shooter. Can he afford one handgun (a larger one) for home defense and another for the carry role?
Posted by: Ed L
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What Ed L said is so well done, it deserves to be repeated. Very important questions for anyone thinking of buying a handgun.
- Weapon ergonomics: It may look great on paper, but if doesn't feel good in your friend's hand, or if they can't manipulate the controls, it's probably a no-go.
- Physical strength: How's your friend's grip strength? Can he (or his wife) hold the handgun when it's firing full power defensive loads? Does arthritis (or something else) prevent them from manipulating the slide or disassembling it for cleaning?
- Is small the way to go? For most, small, concealable handguns are some of the most difficult to learn how to shoot accurately, especially under stress. I wouldn't recommend one as a first gun for a newbie shooter. Can he afford one handgun (a larger one) for home defense and another for the carry role?
Posted by: Ed L
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What Ed L said is so well done, it deserves to be repeated. Very important questions for anyone thinking of buying a handgun.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2024 08:17 PM (ctrM5)
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Hi Gun Thread. Been an odd week. And I neither got to nor had to use my firearms. Though there was some ambiguity on Saturday.
Posted by: GWB at November 24, 2024 08:17 PM (GR9H0)
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Hey Jim SND!! Hope all is well.
Will contact you most likely next week about the rifle.
Will contact you most likely next week about the rifle.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 24, 2024 08:18 PM (0XVad)
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One of the PPK variants Walther is releasing includes a threaded barrel from the factory, a first for the PPK in its nearly 100-year history. You can now LARP as 007 with a suppressed PPK in hand, just like the books and movies.
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 08:14 PM (AiJK3)
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I have a Manurhin-made PP in .32 ACP and it is freaking awesome. Such a fine fit in the hand, fixed barrel makes it a tack hammer. "Full-sized" .32s are really, really nice to shoot and when I grow up and get a chronograph, I'm going to run some numbers because I think .32's performance gets short shrift because everyone clocks it on pocket Berettas. Another inch and half of barrel can make a big difference.
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 08:14 PM (AiJK3)
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I have a Manurhin-made PP in .32 ACP and it is freaking awesome. Such a fine fit in the hand, fixed barrel makes it a tack hammer. "Full-sized" .32s are really, really nice to shoot and when I grow up and get a chronograph, I'm going to run some numbers because I think .32's performance gets short shrift because everyone clocks it on pocket Berettas. Another inch and half of barrel can make a big difference.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 08:18 PM (ZOv7s)
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Or if SEH has a single sister.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 08:14 PM (Wnv9h)
I would gladly teach her to arch her back so she doesn’t slump forward.
Not sure I could get permission though.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 08:14 PM (Wnv9h)
I would gladly teach her to arch her back so she doesn’t slump forward.
Not sure I could get permission though.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 08:18 PM (2UpC3)
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Next match I'm shooting is Dec 7. I don't think I can get a new barrel and loads worked out for the Savage by then. So, I'll shoot factory loads in the Howa and have fun. Plus, if I don't care if I ruin the barrel on the Howa. It's getting a new barrel in the next two or three months anyway,.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 24, 2024 08:17 PM (tT6L1)
Gotcha, thanks!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 24, 2024 08:17 PM (tT6L1)
Gotcha, thanks!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 08:19 PM (v23vE)
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On the concealed carry.....
I carry when I go to Mass and when I run errands around town. I carry when I go hiking.
I do not carry to work, or to the beach. I always have pepper spray in my pocket.
Situational awareness is my best friend. If I hear a commotion downtown, I walk the other way. If I see a "live one" on the street, I jaywalk to the other side. I find avoidance it the best defense.
I carry when I go to Mass and when I run errands around town. I carry when I go hiking.
I do not carry to work, or to the beach. I always have pepper spray in my pocket.
Situational awareness is my best friend. If I hear a commotion downtown, I walk the other way. If I see a "live one" on the street, I jaywalk to the other side. I find avoidance it the best defense.
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 24, 2024 08:20 PM (4ynbb)
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Don't wait too long if you see something you like. They'll go quickly at the prices you see on AIM Surplus.
Posted by: Ed L
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Think the Model 10's or the stainless variants they have are about 400-500 which is a lot more than they used to sell for.
Another source that I have purchased from in the past, is Centerfire Systems in Kentucky. They buy quite a few used revolvers from Century International Arms (wholesaler only unless you have a C&R license for some firearms that qualify). Old Western Scrounger did have quite a few Colt Detectives and old model Cobras for sale too.
Posted by: Ed L
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Think the Model 10's or the stainless variants they have are about 400-500 which is a lot more than they used to sell for.
Another source that I have purchased from in the past, is Centerfire Systems in Kentucky. They buy quite a few used revolvers from Century International Arms (wholesaler only unless you have a C&R license for some firearms that qualify). Old Western Scrounger did have quite a few Colt Detectives and old model Cobras for sale too.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2024 08:20 PM (ctrM5)
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Don't wait too long if you see something you like. They'll go quickly at the prices you see on AIM Surplus.
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 08:17 PM (AiJK3)
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I'm not going to disagree with you on that specifically, but I do think there is value in putting off gun and ammo purchases until Trump takes office. Ammo is already getting discounted and by spring I expect a full-on gun recession. Total buyer's market.
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 08:17 PM (AiJK3)
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I'm not going to disagree with you on that specifically, but I do think there is value in putting off gun and ammo purchases until Trump takes office. Ammo is already getting discounted and by spring I expect a full-on gun recession. Total buyer's market.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 08:20 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 24, 2024 08:23 PM (tT6L1)
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So, hate to be that guy, but ...
Food Thread had 354 comments. We are on pace, but need to keep it up. We don't want Weasel's Thanksgiving week to start with an early-morning Zoom call, do we?
DO WE?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 08:01 PM
John Kerry and Sarah Jessica Parker concur, "Neigh!"
Food Thread had 354 comments. We are on pace, but need to keep it up. We don't want Weasel's Thanksgiving week to start with an early-morning Zoom call, do we?
DO WE?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 08:01 PM
John Kerry and Sarah Jessica Parker concur, "Neigh!"
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 24, 2024 08:23 PM (a3Q+t)
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Situational awareness is my best friend. If I hear a commotion downtown, I walk the other way. If I see a "live one" on the street, I jaywalk to the other side. I find avoidance it the best defense.
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 24, 2024 08:20 PM (4ynbb)
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This is very wise advice.
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 24, 2024 08:20 PM (4ynbb)
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This is very wise advice.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 08:24 PM (ZOv7s)
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151 Whig, can you give some examples of single base and double based powders? I’m familiar with the reference, but not the details.
Posted by: RI Red
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Nitroglycerin is used in the double based plus nitrocellulose. Nitrocellulose only is a single based powder. Nitroglycerin makes the powder burn hotter and faster generally speaking and it generates a different pressure curve than a single based one. Hodgons Extreme Line is single based while I think most if not all the Alliant Reloader series is double based for example.
Posted by: RI Red
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Nitroglycerin is used in the double based plus nitrocellulose. Nitrocellulose only is a single based powder. Nitroglycerin makes the powder burn hotter and faster generally speaking and it generates a different pressure curve than a single based one. Hodgons Extreme Line is single based while I think most if not all the Alliant Reloader series is double based for example.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2024 08:24 PM (ctrM5)
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159 Or if SEH has a single sister.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 08:14 PM (Wnv9h)
I would gladly teach her to arch her back so she doesn’t slump forward.
Not sure I could get permission though.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 08:18 PM (2UpC3)
So, did we switch to kinesiology?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 08:14 PM (Wnv9h)
I would gladly teach her to arch her back so she doesn’t slump forward.
Not sure I could get permission though.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 08:18 PM (2UpC3)
So, did we switch to kinesiology?
Posted by: Eromero at November 24, 2024 08:24 PM (LHPAg)
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Good evening Weasel, good evening Horde!
Well, I could offer an opinion on the CC question IF and WHEN the Commonwealth of VA ever decides to give me one. Somehow, my proficiency cert ended up with TRex's papers and visa versa. And of course, the well qualified and overpaid bureaucrats couldn't just switch them. So, back to Circuit Ct Wed am....
Range report: progressing along, still making tweeks when the holes don't appear where they should, and seeing some consistency. Next up is moving out the target and then introducing some speed.
Purchases? I understand Santa will be bring magazines, as we've been told you can never have enough.
Lastly, the other Commonwealth's (PA) Supreme Ct finally made a correct decision (actually this is the second in a row) and unanimously ruled that the State's firearms preemption law is unconstitutional and struck it down. Happy early Christmas!
https://tinyurl.com/khxuh3h3
Well, I could offer an opinion on the CC question IF and WHEN the Commonwealth of VA ever decides to give me one. Somehow, my proficiency cert ended up with TRex's papers and visa versa. And of course, the well qualified and overpaid bureaucrats couldn't just switch them. So, back to Circuit Ct Wed am....
Range report: progressing along, still making tweeks when the holes don't appear where they should, and seeing some consistency. Next up is moving out the target and then introducing some speed.
Purchases? I understand Santa will be bring magazines, as we've been told you can never have enough.
Lastly, the other Commonwealth's (PA) Supreme Ct finally made a correct decision (actually this is the second in a row) and unanimously ruled that the State's firearms preemption law is unconstitutional and struck it down. Happy early Christmas!
https://tinyurl.com/khxuh3h3
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at November 24, 2024 08:25 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Round in the chamber when you're carrying for self-defense? Yes!
However, when you're first beginning to carry? Maybe not. Depends on how confident you are and the sort of gun you have. Get used to carrying it, learn and practice drawing it. When you're confident in your ability to get it out without mashing the trigger, then start carrying with a round in the chamber. Note that it will mean you're not ready to defend yourself until you start carrying one in the chamber. The bad guys will not let you "Hold on a minute while I load my gun" when you need it.
And, unless you carry with TWO empty chambers in the cylinder, a revolver always has one in the next chamber, which is where it needs to be.
However, when you're first beginning to carry? Maybe not. Depends on how confident you are and the sort of gun you have. Get used to carrying it, learn and practice drawing it. When you're confident in your ability to get it out without mashing the trigger, then start carrying with a round in the chamber. Note that it will mean you're not ready to defend yourself until you start carrying one in the chamber. The bad guys will not let you "Hold on a minute while I load my gun" when you need it.
And, unless you carry with TWO empty chambers in the cylinder, a revolver always has one in the next chamber, which is where it needs to be.
Posted by: GWB at November 24, 2024 08:25 PM (GR9H0)
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Howdy Hordelings! And thank you Weasel for another dandy bit of funnin' and gunnin'!
Posted by: Doof at November 24, 2024 08:25 PM (RFPHU)
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Doof!
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 08:27 PM (AiJK3)
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Situational awareness is your best friend. I was raised by LEOs and knew at an early age to (1) be aware, and (2) go in the other direction ASAP.
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at November 24, 2024 08:27 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: Doof at November 24, 2024 08:28 PM (RFPHU)
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To continue, a double based powder generally is a 'faster' powder that rapidly brings up the pressure curve while the single based is a slower buildup in pressure.
Might find this article useful from NRA Shooting Illustrated. https://tinyurl.com/r2n3bju5
What you will not find is that double based powders have less shelf life than single based including in loaded ammo. We are talking about decades here but still double based powders for whatever reason do not last as long either in a canister or loaded ammo.
Might find this article useful from NRA Shooting Illustrated. https://tinyurl.com/r2n3bju5
What you will not find is that double based powders have less shelf life than single based including in loaded ammo. We are talking about decades here but still double based powders for whatever reason do not last as long either in a canister or loaded ammo.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2024 08:29 PM (ctrM5)
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163 Don't wait too long if you see something you like. They'll go quickly at the prices you see on AIM Surplus.
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 08:17 PM (AiJK3)
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I'm not going to disagree with you on that specifically, but I do think there is value in putting off gun and ammo purchases until Trump takes office. Ammo is already getting discounted and by spring I expect a full-on gun recession. Total buyer's market.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024
Great advice!
-Eromero bought his first Sig556 at premium price in Dec 2008. Right before the emaculation.
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 08:17 PM (AiJK3)
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I'm not going to disagree with you on that specifically, but I do think there is value in putting off gun and ammo purchases until Trump takes office. Ammo is already getting discounted and by spring I expect a full-on gun recession. Total buyer's market.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024
Great advice!
-Eromero bought his first Sig556 at premium price in Dec 2008. Right before the emaculation.
Posted by: Eromero at November 24, 2024 08:29 PM (LHPAg)
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Thanks, Whig. I need to think about that, though at present I’m not shooting any high velocity rounds.
Unfortunately/fortunately, I laid in a lot of .243 for the burning times. Guess I’ll need another rifle in that chambering. Any suggestions?
Unfortunately/fortunately, I laid in a lot of .243 for the burning times. Guess I’ll need another rifle in that chambering. Any suggestions?
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 08:29 PM (2UpC3)
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I think we'll take my tiny arsenal when my neighbor and I go the indoor range and store, which allows lane-sharing.
He can try all from .22 LR to 45 ACP. I don't think he really ever intends to carry, but wants a weapon handy in the home for safety from intruders.
He though FL required a CCW permit in order to buy a handgun. I told him that FL formerly required CCW in order to carry, but not for ownership. And that FL went with constitutional carry, meaning no permit needed now to own OR carry.
So we'll plink and he can shop, and I will bring up a short shotgun as maybe what you keep under the bed, instead.
He and his wife have all the hand strength needed plus good eyesight to learn to shoot handguns, but know nothing about guns yet.
He can try all from .22 LR to 45 ACP. I don't think he really ever intends to carry, but wants a weapon handy in the home for safety from intruders.
He though FL required a CCW permit in order to buy a handgun. I told him that FL formerly required CCW in order to carry, but not for ownership. And that FL went with constitutional carry, meaning no permit needed now to own OR carry.
So we'll plink and he can shop, and I will bring up a short shotgun as maybe what you keep under the bed, instead.
He and his wife have all the hand strength needed plus good eyesight to learn to shoot handguns, but know nothing about guns yet.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 24, 2024 08:30 PM (KiBMU)
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Situational awareness is my best friend. If I hear a commotion downtown, I walk the other way. If I see a "live one" on the street, I jaywalk to the other side. I find avoidance it the best defense.
This. In spades. The best gun fight is the one you don't have. That said, if you're out of options short of giving up life or limb...
This. In spades. The best gun fight is the one you don't have. That said, if you're out of options short of giving up life or limb...
Posted by: Oddbob at November 24, 2024 08:32 PM (/y8xj)
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177 Thanks, Whig. I need to think about that, though at present I’m not shooting any high velocity rounds.
Unfortunately/fortunately, I laid in a lot of .243 for the burning times. Guess I’ll need another rifle in that chambering. Any suggestions?
Posted by: RI Red
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Brownells was selling some bare Howa barrelled actions for less than five bills. Including 243 Win
I get all the sales flyers regrettably due to past purchases.
Unfortunately/fortunately, I laid in a lot of .243 for the burning times. Guess I’ll need another rifle in that chambering. Any suggestions?
Posted by: RI Red
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Brownells was selling some bare Howa barrelled actions for less than five bills. Including 243 Win
I get all the sales flyers regrettably due to past purchases.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2024 08:32 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2024 08:32 PM (v6JzV)
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Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 24, 2024 08:30 PM (KiBMU)
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Nice job introducing them to guns 'n shooting!
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Nice job introducing them to guns 'n shooting!
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 08:33 PM (fghTy)
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...Hey Jim SND!! Hope all is well. Will contact you most likely next week about the rifle. Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 24, 2024 08:18 PM (0XVad)
Cool. Let me know, as I'll be sending Weasel the Full List, should he wish to publish it.
Next step? Rent three tables at a local Gun Show, recruit some anti-theft help, and Go for the Gusto!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Cool. Let me know, as I'll be sending Weasel the Full List, should he wish to publish it.
Next step? Rent three tables at a local Gun Show, recruit some anti-theft help, and Go for the Gusto!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at November 24, 2024 08:33 PM (Xo+UM)
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Nice to see the classic cars in "Highway Patrol." I guess there's something wrong with me. In the back of my mind, against all reason, I was hoping that the bandits would get away.
Nice to see the classic cars in "Highway Patrol." I guess there's something wrong with me. In the back of my mind, against all reason, I was hoping that the bandits would get away.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 24, 2024 08:35 PM (iTNuP)
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-Eromero bought his first Sig556 at premium price in Dec 2008. Right before the emaculation.
Posted by: Eromero at November 24, 2024 08:29 PM (LHPAg)
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I have been quite good on the bargain-hunting thing. When prices surged for 'practical' weapons, I noticed a dip for vintage and cashed in.
However, I got badly bit on a Colt Official Police my *friend* bought during the height of the Pandemic. He showed it to my wife, who loves Colts and made me promise to buy it. I said okay.
And then the guy cools on it, decides he wants to sell it and I am honor bound to buy it and of course I knew he overpaid, but can't bring that up for friendship's sake.
Of course, within a couple of years, the Mrs. has lost interest in it, so I sold it over the summer, hoping the tightening market would help. It didn't.
I ended up trading it and some rather hot surplus ammo for a Carcano Moschetto.
Posted by: Eromero at November 24, 2024 08:29 PM (LHPAg)
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I have been quite good on the bargain-hunting thing. When prices surged for 'practical' weapons, I noticed a dip for vintage and cashed in.
However, I got badly bit on a Colt Official Police my *friend* bought during the height of the Pandemic. He showed it to my wife, who loves Colts and made me promise to buy it. I said okay.
And then the guy cools on it, decides he wants to sell it and I am honor bound to buy it and of course I knew he overpaid, but can't bring that up for friendship's sake.
Of course, within a couple of years, the Mrs. has lost interest in it, so I sold it over the summer, hoping the tightening market would help. It didn't.
I ended up trading it and some rather hot surplus ammo for a Carcano Moschetto.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 08:37 PM (ZOv7s)
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I also don't walk alone downtown. It's dark here at 430. I mean dark.
There's a coworker who takes a different boat and we leave at the same time. We walk together down the hill through downtown to the dock. I have my pepper spray and she's a LOUD, LARGE MEXICAN WOMAN.
There's a coworker who takes a different boat and we leave at the same time. We walk together down the hill through downtown to the dock. I have my pepper spray and she's a LOUD, LARGE MEXICAN WOMAN.
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 24, 2024 08:37 PM (kIzwW)
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Hello gubthreaders and all the ships at sea.
We are practicing the art of organic tree farming this week.
I found a sloped area that might be good for shooting if I have the time we will do that. But first we are drilling a well (driving actually it's shallow. )
We are practicing the art of organic tree farming this week.
I found a sloped area that might be good for shooting if I have the time we will do that. But first we are drilling a well (driving actually it's shallow. )
Posted by: blaster at November 24, 2024 08:37 PM (2s5/8)
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Cool. Let me know, as I'll be sending Weasel the Full List, should he wish to publish it.
Next step? Rent three tables at a local Gun Show, recruit some anti-theft help, and Go for the Gusto!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at November 24, 2024 08:33 PM (Xo+UM)
Hmmm... may be time for Yet Another Texas Trip ...
Next step? Rent three tables at a local Gun Show, recruit some anti-theft help, and Go for the Gusto!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at November 24, 2024 08:33 PM (Xo+UM)
Hmmm... may be time for Yet Another Texas Trip ...
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 08:38 PM (v23vE)
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Posted by: Doof at November 24, 2024 08:39 PM (RFPHU)
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184
Nice to see the classic cars in "Highway Patrol." I guess there's something wrong with me. In the back of my mind, against all reason, I was hoping that the bandits would get away.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 24, 2024 08:35 PM (iTNuP)
The guy in the jewelry store said they were ‘well dressed’, but then he was just glad they didn’t fill him full of lead
Nice to see the classic cars in "Highway Patrol." I guess there's something wrong with me. In the back of my mind, against all reason, I was hoping that the bandits would get away.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 24, 2024 08:35 PM (iTNuP)
The guy in the jewelry store said they were ‘well dressed’, but then he was just glad they didn’t fill him full of lead
Posted by: Eromero at November 24, 2024 08:40 PM (LHPAg)
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186 I also don't walk alone downtown. It's dark here at 430. I mean dark.
There's a coworker who takes a different boat and we leave at the same time. We walk together down the hill through downtown to the dock. I have my pepper spray and she's a LOUD, LARGE MEXICAN WOMAN.
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 24, 2024 08:37 PM (kIzwW)
Key question - is she skilled in the art of La Chancla? Because ain't nobody gonna mess with her if so.
There's a coworker who takes a different boat and we leave at the same time. We walk together down the hill through downtown to the dock. I have my pepper spray and she's a LOUD, LARGE MEXICAN WOMAN.
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 24, 2024 08:37 PM (kIzwW)
Key question - is she skilled in the art of La Chancla? Because ain't nobody gonna mess with her if so.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 08:40 PM (v23vE)
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Sorry, that should read "tried to sell." Some may wonder why, and my answer is that my collection (all of which is now in a river somewhere) has specific themes, and all additions are gridded out. That Colt was not on the grid, but for the sake of marital bliss, I allowed it. Once protection was withdrawn, it had to go.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 08:41 PM (ZOv7s)
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Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at November 24, 2024 08:33 PM
Jim, interested in that spotting scope if it's not already spoken for. I can resend contact info if it didn't go through last time.
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at November 24, 2024 08:33 PM
Jim, interested in that spotting scope if it's not already spoken for. I can resend contact info if it didn't go through last time.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 08:42 PM (Wnv9h)
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Time to renew the ol' Concealed Weapons License.
One thing I appreciate about my state is that the CWL covers not merely firearms but also blades and bludgeons.
I thought it very nice of them to leave a body the option of hiding a sword under one's trenchcoat.
One thing I appreciate about my state is that the CWL covers not merely firearms but also blades and bludgeons.
I thought it very nice of them to leave a body the option of hiding a sword under one's trenchcoat.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 24, 2024 08:42 PM (cSS7r)
196
The Nation’s Gun Show was at the Chantilly Expo Center this weekend.
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2024 08:43 PM (v6JzV)
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Key question - is she skilled in the art of La Chancla? Because ain't nobody gonna mess with her if so.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 08:40 PM (v23vE)
Hahahahahha!
Yes.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 08:40 PM (v23vE)
Hahahahahha!
Yes.
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 24, 2024 08:43 PM (kIzwW)
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I thought it very nice of them to leave a body the option of hiding a sword under one's trenchcoat.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 24, 2024 08:42 PM (cSS7r)
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Go with the classic sap & dirk option.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 24, 2024 08:42 PM (cSS7r)
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Go with the classic sap & dirk option.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 08:44 PM (ZOv7s)
199
Time to renew the ol' Concealed Weapons License.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 24, 2024 08:42 PM
I'm curious to see how much slower MA can walk my renewal next time around.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 24, 2024 08:42 PM
I'm curious to see how much slower MA can walk my renewal next time around.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 08:45 PM (Wnv9h)
200
200!
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 08:45 PM (IQ6Gq)
201
I also have told a couple of women I work with that their whistles and noisemakers are NOT SELF
DEFENSE. No one gives a shit and is going to intervene.
Tasers require you to be in contact with the assailant. Nope. And if you have the shooting taser things, you get one chance. And if you haven't practiced, your chances of success are zero.
Nope nope nope.
DEFENSE. No one gives a shit and is going to intervene.
Tasers require you to be in contact with the assailant. Nope. And if you have the shooting taser things, you get one chance. And if you haven't practiced, your chances of success are zero.
Nope nope nope.
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 24, 2024 08:48 PM (kIzwW)
202
I see people carrying 5” fixed blades on their belt. By their looks they might keep company with the wrong crowd.
Posted by: Eromero at November 24, 2024 08:48 PM (LHPAg)
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Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2024 08:43 PM (v6JzV)
I was there Friday and Saturday. I thought there was a pretty good turnout based on the
I was there Friday and Saturday. I thought there was a pretty good turnout based on the
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 08:48 PM (AiJK3)
204
RMBS. I got your mail, will reply with particulars.
Illness wise, the ADMIN of paperwork and interviews for medical, logistical, financial.... has been worse than a full time job.
I'm playin' catch up, this week.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Illness wise, the ADMIN of paperwork and interviews for medical, logistical, financial.... has been worse than a full time job.
I'm playin' catch up, this week.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at November 24, 2024 08:49 PM (Xo+UM)
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I thought it very nice of them to leave a body the option of hiding a sword under one's trenchcoat.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 24, 2024 08:42 PM (cSS7r)
Things I learned in church this month ...
Ehud, a southpaw, made maximum use of that option in Judges 3:12-30
Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 24, 2024 08:42 PM (cSS7r)
Things I learned in church this month ...
Ehud, a southpaw, made maximum use of that option in Judges 3:12-30
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 08:50 PM (v23vE)
206
(continued) difficulty of finding a parking space at the Dulles Expo Center. It looked like the Christmas shopping was in full swing based on the gaps I saw on the tables on Saturday compared to Friday.
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 08:50 PM (AiJK3)
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200 200!
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 08:45 PM (IQ6Gq)
You, sir, are on fire with the round numbers tonight!
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 08:45 PM (IQ6Gq)
You, sir, are on fire with the round numbers tonight!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 08:51 PM (v23vE)
208
I'm playin' catch up, this week.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at November 24, 2024 08:49 PM (Xo+UM)
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Hang in there. One of the hidden benefits of Horde membership is that you're automatically, at no extra charge, included in the Prayer Thread by default.
So you've go that going, which is nice.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at November 24, 2024 08:49 PM (Xo+UM)
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Hang in there. One of the hidden benefits of Horde membership is that you're automatically, at no extra charge, included in the Prayer Thread by default.
So you've go that going, which is nice.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 08:51 PM (ZOv7s)
209
I thought it very nice of them to leave a body the option of hiding a sword under one's trenchcoat.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 24, 2024 08:42 PM (cSS7r)
Things I learned in church this month ...
Ehud, a southpaw, made maximum use of that option in Judges 3:12-30
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 08:50 PM (v23vE)
It was Ehud, in the privy, with a short sword, what done the old man in.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 24, 2024 08:42 PM (cSS7r)
Things I learned in church this month ...
Ehud, a southpaw, made maximum use of that option in Judges 3:12-30
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 08:50 PM (v23vE)
It was Ehud, in the privy, with a short sword, what done the old man in.
Posted by: Eromero at November 24, 2024 08:52 PM (LHPAg)
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207 200 200!
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 08:45 PM (IQ6Gq)
You, sir, are on fire with the round numbers tonight!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 08:51 PM
***
Just setting you up for the big 300. Getting ready?
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 08:45 PM (IQ6Gq)
You, sir, are on fire with the round numbers tonight!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 08:51 PM
***
Just setting you up for the big 300. Getting ready?
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 08:53 PM (IQ6Gq)
211
Illness wise, the ADMIN of paperwork and interviews for medical, logistical, financial.... has been worse than a full time job.
**************
Jim, I hear you. True, every word.
If I can help you with any of it, reach out via my email.
**************
Jim, I hear you. True, every word.
If I can help you with any of it, reach out via my email.
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at November 24, 2024 08:54 PM (IQ6Gq)
212
I'm more and more intrigued about the TXMoMe. Perhaps, if I am still extant upon this realm next year, I may see if I can find a table quite away from the main event and observe. Who knows, my dear boy, who knows.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 24, 2024 08:54 PM (CHHv1)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 08:54 PM (Wnv9h)
214
Just setting you up for the big 300. Getting ready?
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 08:53 PM (IQ6Gq)
Zeroed and dialed in, sir.
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 08:53 PM (IQ6Gq)
Zeroed and dialed in, sir.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 08:54 PM (v23vE)
215
It was Ehud, in the privy, with a short sword, what done the old man in.
Posted by: Eromero at November 24, 2024 08:52 PM (LHPAg)
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As opposed to a ninja, in the latrine, with a pike.
Posted by: Eromero at November 24, 2024 08:52 PM (LHPAg)
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As opposed to a ninja, in the latrine, with a pike.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 08:55 PM (ZOv7s)
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212 I'm more and more intrigued about the TXMoMe. Perhaps, if I am still extant upon this realm next year, I may see if I can find a table quite away from the main event and observe. Who knows, my dear boy, who knows.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 24, 2024 08:54 PM (CHHv1)
Dude. You gotta. That's all I can say.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 24, 2024 08:54 PM (CHHv1)
Dude. You gotta. That's all I can say.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 08:55 PM (v23vE)
217
I was there Friday and Saturday. I thought there was a pretty good turnout based on the
Posted by: Ed L
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Never saw the sni
Posted by: Ed L
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Never saw the sniPosted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 24, 2024 08:56 PM (hovnC)
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203 Hey, Ed L, I believe that my wife and I met you at the NoVa MoMe. Where you told us about Jelly Bryce, and we discussed the Maui wildfires? If so, good to reconnect with you.
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2024 08:56 PM (v6JzV)
219
Unfortunately/fortunately, I laid in a lot of .243 for the burning times. Guess I’ll need another rifle in that chambering. Any suggestions?
Posted by: RI Red
Another option is CDNN has a Sauer in 243 Win for $800. A Browning X-bolt is going for 1200 for that same cartridge.
The Sauer (and its sister Mauser) models have exceptional accuracy but the limit is they have press fit barrels because rifle barrels as well as actions are treated as serialized components in Euroland.
Posted by: RI Red
Another option is CDNN has a Sauer in 243 Win for $800. A Browning X-bolt is going for 1200 for that same cartridge.
The Sauer (and its sister Mauser) models have exceptional accuracy but the limit is they have press fit barrels because rifle barrels as well as actions are treated as serialized components in Euroland.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2024 08:56 PM (ctrM5)
220
I'm more and more intrigued about the TXMoMe. Perhaps, if I am still extant upon this realm next year, I may see if I can find a table quite away from the main event and observe. Who knows, my dear boy, who knows.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 24, 2024 08:54 PM
*channels inner Zod*
You will attend the 10th Anniversary TXMoMe. You will do thisnow in October.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 24, 2024 08:54 PM
*channels inner Zod*
You will attend the 10th Anniversary TXMoMe. You will do this
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 08:56 PM (Wnv9h)
221
Who’s was awesome. Take out the king when he’s on the shitter.
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2024 08:58 PM (v6JzV)
222
I'm more and more intrigued about the TXMoMe. Perhaps, if I am still extant upon this realm next year, I may see if I can find a table quite away from the main event and observe. Who knows, my dear boy, who knows.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 24, 2024 08:54 PM (CHHv1)
C'mon in, the water's fine! Nobody bites.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 24, 2024 08:54 PM (CHHv1)
C'mon in, the water's fine! Nobody bites.
Posted by: Doof at November 24, 2024 08:58 PM (RFPHU)
223
C'mon in, the water's fine! Nobody bites.
Posted by: Doof at November 24, 2024 08:58 PM
Well...not hard.
Posted by: Doof at November 24, 2024 08:58 PM
Well...not hard.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 08:59 PM (Wnv9h)
224
221 Who’s was awesome. Take out the king when he’s on the shitter.
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2024 08:58 PM (v6JzV)
[Tyrion Lannister has entered the chat]
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2024 08:58 PM (v6JzV)
[Tyrion Lannister has entered the chat]
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 08:59 PM (v23vE)
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223 C'mon in, the water's fine! Nobody bites.
Posted by: Doof at November 24, 2024 08:58 PM
Well...not hard.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 08:59 PM (Wnv9h)
And it's almost all consensual...
Posted by: Doof at November 24, 2024 08:58 PM
Well...not hard.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 08:59 PM (Wnv9h)
And it's almost all consensual...
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 08:59 PM (v23vE)
226
221 I meant “Ehud” was awesome.
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2024 09:00 PM (v6JzV)
227
226 221 I meant “Ehud” was awesome.
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2024 09:00 PM (v6JzV)
Yet another victim of autocucumber!
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2024 09:00 PM (v6JzV)
Yet another victim of autocucumber!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:02 PM (v23vE)
228
I meant “Ehud” was awesome.
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2024 09:00 PM (v6JzV)
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Right, because the ninja was doing the same thing.
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2024 09:00 PM (v6JzV)
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Right, because the ninja was doing the same thing.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 09:02 PM (ZOv7s)
229
I'm just watching the end of the battle in Olivier's Henry V.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 24, 2024 09:03 PM (hovnC)
230
225 223 C'mon in, the water's fine! Nobody bites.
Posted by: Doof at November 24, 2024 08:58 PM
Well...not hard.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 08:59 PM (Wnv9h)
And it's almost all consensual...
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November
Ummm. Kinda homo that it's all boys talking about biting.
Posted by: Doof at November 24, 2024 08:58 PM
Well...not hard.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 08:59 PM (Wnv9h)
And it's almost all consensual...
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November
Ummm. Kinda homo that it's all boys talking about biting.
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 24, 2024 09:04 PM (aRIIa)
231
BeckoningChasm - the privy facilities are well guarded at the TXMoMe. You shouldn't need to worry about swordplay in the latrine.
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 09:04 PM (IQ6Gq)
232
Had to step away for a few. #4 son (and wife!) called to let us know they are expecting their first. YEEHAW!!!
This was the son who met his wife at a pro-life rally.
I keep on telling everyone "I know what the hell I'm talking about!"
This was the son who met his wife at a pro-life rally.
I keep on telling everyone "I know what the hell I'm talking about!"
Posted by: Tonypete at November 24, 2024 09:04 PM (WXNFJ)
233
Any thoughts on Walther P22Q?
Bass Pro has them on sale starting tomorrow.
Bass Pro has them on sale starting tomorrow.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 24, 2024 09:04 PM (/lPRQ)
234
Just checked Aimsurplus has model 64-5 to 64-8 in stock for less than 500. These are stainless steel variants of the Model 10--the 64 has fixed sights just like the 10 and all have heavy barrels.
At least the ad says these are from a US department so not an return from overseas like some of their tradeins recently and those purchasing them seem to like what they got quality wise. YMMV
At least the ad says these are from a US department so not an return from overseas like some of their tradeins recently and those purchasing them seem to like what they got quality wise. YMMV
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2024 09:05 PM (ctrM5)
235
Tasers require you to be in contact with the assailant. Nope. And if you have the shooting taser things, you get one chance. And if you haven't practiced, your chances of success are zero.
Nope nope nope.
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 24, 2024 08:48 PM (kIzwW)
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This highlights the problem with non-lethal self-defense. Tasers are really just a tool for law enforcement to subdue suspects. They have no place with armed citizens.
Pepper spray can serve both purposes, and I've trained my daughters in its use and all of them carry it. It carries none of the legal weight of a firearm, and while you see the courthouse videos of guys essentially ignoring it, that's now how it is deployed in a self-defense situation, where the object is simply to get away.
This goes back to the full/empty chamber question, which at is core is tailored to each individual's needs.
Nope nope nope.
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 24, 2024 08:48 PM (kIzwW)
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This highlights the problem with non-lethal self-defense. Tasers are really just a tool for law enforcement to subdue suspects. They have no place with armed citizens.
Pepper spray can serve both purposes, and I've trained my daughters in its use and all of them carry it. It carries none of the legal weight of a firearm, and while you see the courthouse videos of guys essentially ignoring it, that's now how it is deployed in a self-defense situation, where the object is simply to get away.
This goes back to the full/empty chamber question, which at is core is tailored to each individual's needs.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 09:06 PM (ZOv7s)
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Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2024 08:56 PM (v6JzV)
Hope everything is going well with you, Bulg. Are you planning on going to TX for the MoMe next October? It'll be worth it, I promise.
Hope everything is going well with you, Bulg. Are you planning on going to TX for the MoMe next October? It'll be worth it, I promise.
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 09:06 PM (AiJK3)
237
I may see if I can find a table quite away from the main event and observe. Who knows, my dear boy, who knows.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 24, 2024 08:54 PM (CHHv1)
BeckChas, you really need to attend. If things get too noisy, we can set up a spotting scope for you so you can view the festivities from a very safe distance!
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 24, 2024 08:54 PM (CHHv1)
BeckChas, you really need to attend. If things get too noisy, we can set up a spotting scope for you so you can view the festivities from a very safe distance!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NEXT Year In Corsicana - again! ~ at November 24, 2024 09:06 PM (hOUT3)
238
Ummm. Kinda homo that it's all boys talking about biting.
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 24, 2024 09:04 PM (aRIIa)
You're just jealous!
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 24, 2024 09:04 PM (aRIIa)
You're just jealous!
Posted by: Doof at November 24, 2024 09:06 PM (RFPHU)
239
Ummm. Kinda homo that it's all boys talking about biting.
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 24, 2024 09:04 PM
No homo!
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 24, 2024 09:04 PM
No homo!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 09:06 PM (Wnv9h)
240
Ummm. Kinda homo that it's all boys talking about biting.
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 24, 2024 09:04 PM (aRIIa)
Apologies, ma'am, did not mean to exclude you. Feel free to masticate to your heart's content.
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 24, 2024 09:04 PM (aRIIa)
Apologies, ma'am, did not mean to exclude you. Feel free to masticate to your heart's content.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:06 PM (v23vE)
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 09:07 PM (fghTy)
242
Any thoughts on Walther P22Q?
Bass Pro has them on sale starting tomorrow.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 24, 2024 09:04 PM (/lPRQ)
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What will you be using it for?
I like .22 for plinking and training, but would not use it for self defense.
Bass Pro has them on sale starting tomorrow.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 24, 2024 09:04 PM (/lPRQ)
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What will you be using it for?
I like .22 for plinking and training, but would not use it for self defense.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 09:07 PM (ZOv7s)
243
232 Had to step away for a few. #4 son (and wife!) called to let us know they are expecting their first. YEEHAW!!!
This was the son who met his wife at a pro-life rally.
I keep on telling everyone "I know what the hell I'm talking about!"
Posted by: Tonypete at November 24, 2024 09:04 PM (WXNFJ)
Congratulations to you and the Mrs. on the impending re-grandparenthood, Tonypete!
This was the son who met his wife at a pro-life rally.
I keep on telling everyone "I know what the hell I'm talking about!"
Posted by: Tonypete at November 24, 2024 09:04 PM (WXNFJ)
Congratulations to you and the Mrs. on the impending re-grandparenthood, Tonypete!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:08 PM (v23vE)
244
Okay, wish everyone well, Happy Thanksgiving, and have a pleasant evening. Will probably be offline most of this coming week due to a procedure scheduled for Tuesday.
Thanks Weasel for the content this week and thanks to all commenters that make this thread one of the better experiences at AOS.
If there are any lurkers out there with questions, there are people here that can address most of them so ask away.
Thanks Weasel for the content this week and thanks to all commenters that make this thread one of the better experiences at AOS.
If there are any lurkers out there with questions, there are people here that can address most of them so ask away.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2024 09:08 PM (ctrM5)
245
Congrats, Tonypete!
Posted by: Doof at November 24, 2024 09:09 PM (RFPHU)
246
This was the son who met his wife at a pro-life rally.
I keep on telling everyone "I know what the hell I'm talking about!"
Posted by: Tonypete at November 24, 2024 09:04 PM (WXNFJ)
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Congratulations!
This was the son who met his wife at a pro-life rally.
I keep on telling everyone "I know what the hell I'm talking about!"
Posted by: Tonypete at November 24, 2024 09:04 PM (WXNFJ)
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Congratulations!
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 09:09 PM (ZOv7s)
247
219. I was at a gun show last weekend and saw a Henry lever action in .243. Capacity is only four rounds as the (I think only internal) magazine is vertical.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at November 24, 2024 09:09 PM (gd0Fy)
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If there are any lurkers out there with questions, there are people here that can address most of them so ask away.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2024 09:08 PM (ctrM5)
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Have a good one!
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2024 09:08 PM (ctrM5)
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Have a good one!
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 09:10 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 09:10 PM (fghTy)
250
I was at a gun show last weekend and saw a Henry lever action in .243. Capacity is only four rounds as the (I think only internal) magazine is vertical.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at November 24, 2024 09:09 PM (gd0Fy)
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The guns shows around here are about 50 percent flea markets. There are a few good vendors, but for surplus addicts like me, it's often pretty thin gruel.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at November 24, 2024 09:09 PM (gd0Fy)
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The guns shows around here are about 50 percent flea markets. There are a few good vendors, but for surplus addicts like me, it's often pretty thin gruel.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 09:12 PM (ZOv7s)
251
So my spousal unit, who has not been to Corsicana, and is not active on this smart military blog, is not only making plans to come next year, but also scoping out vehicles that will accommodate all the requisite gear, along with passengers we might pick up along the way.
Such is the power of a fully operational TXMoMe!
Such is the power of a fully operational TXMoMe!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:13 PM (v23vE)
252
244 Okay, wish everyone well, Happy Thanksgiving, and have a pleasant evening. Will probably be offline most of this coming week due to a procedure scheduled for Tuesday.
Thanks Weasel for the content this week and thanks to all commenters that make this thread one of the better experiences at AOS.
If there are any lurkers out there with questions, there are people here that can address most of them so ask away.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2024 09:08 PM (ctrM5)
Best wishes that all goes well, sir.
Thanks Weasel for the content this week and thanks to all commenters that make this thread one of the better experiences at AOS.
If there are any lurkers out there with questions, there are people here that can address most of them so ask away.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2024 09:08 PM (ctrM5)
Best wishes that all goes well, sir.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:14 PM (v23vE)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 09:14 PM (Wnv9h)
254
Apologies, ma'am, did not mean to exclude you. Feel free to masticate to your heart's content.
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Hey! Nurse ain't no thespian!
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Hey! Nurse ain't no thespian!
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 24, 2024 09:14 PM (hovnC)
255
Such is the power of a fully operational TXMoMe!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:13 PM (v23vE)
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Don't you mean "a fully *armed* and operational TXMoMe"?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:13 PM (v23vE)
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Don't you mean "a fully *armed* and operational TXMoMe"?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 09:15 PM (ZOv7s)
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Such is the power of a fully operational TXMoMe!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:13 PM
The power of the Horde compels you!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:13 PM
The power of the Horde compels you!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 09:15 PM (Wnv9h)
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Any thoughts on Walther P22Q?
Bass Pro has them on sale starting tomorrow.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 24, 2024 09:04 PM (/lPRQ)
Walther has a good reputation for its handgun triggers right out of the box.
Bass Pro has them on sale starting tomorrow.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 24, 2024 09:04 PM (/lPRQ)
Walther has a good reputation for its handgun triggers right out of the box.
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 09:16 PM (AiJK3)
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236 Ed L, I’m going to try my damnedest to make it. I’ll ride there on yak if need be.
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2024 09:17 PM (v6JzV)
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Whig, prayers and best wishes on your procedure.
S'Puppy, that's great news about Mrs S'Puppy attending, can't wait to meet her
TonyPete, that's the very best news! Just another reason to give thanks!
S'Puppy, that's great news about Mrs S'Puppy attending, can't wait to meet her
TonyPete, that's the very best news! Just another reason to give thanks!
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at November 24, 2024 09:18 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Hmmm, getting to that time. Thanks again, Weasel! Good to be back. While I've been away, I've not been idle.
I'll send you content for your amusement.
I'll send you content for your amusement.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 09:18 PM (ZOv7s)
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>>> 212 I'm more and more intrigued about the TXMoMe. Perhaps, if I am still extant upon this realm next year, I may see if I can find a table quite away from the main event and observe. Who knows, my dear boy, who knows.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 24, 2024 08:54 PM (CHHv1)
Oh look, another excuse to remind everyone that next year will be the *tenth* TX MoMee. And did anyone mention there are dogs there, who are terribly deprived and never *ever* get petted, let alone get treats...
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 24, 2024 08:54 PM (CHHv1)
Oh look, another excuse to remind everyone that next year will be the *tenth* TX MoMee.
And did anyone mention there are dogs there, who are terribly deprived and never *ever* get petted, let alone get treats...Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 24, 2024 09:18 PM (KcwUg)
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Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2024 09:17 PM (v6JzV)
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You would have to be a fairly enormous weirdo not to have a good time!
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You would have to be a fairly enormous weirdo not to have a good time!
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 09:19 PM (fghTy)
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F all that weird stuff in the food thread.
Turkey. Stuffing. Mashed potatoes. Salad. Pie. Etc.
Normal stuff. Cut the crap. Nobody needs people gilding the Thanksgiving lily.
Turkey. Stuffing. Mashed potatoes. Salad. Pie. Etc.
Normal stuff. Cut the crap. Nobody needs people gilding the Thanksgiving lily.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 24, 2024 09:19 PM (7oYYI)
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Have a great Thanksgiving, Whig!
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2024 09:19 PM (v6JzV)
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258 236 Ed L, I’m going to try my damnedest to make it. I’ll ride there on yak if need be.
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2024 09:17 PM (v6JzV)
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Make sure it's a real yak and not a dzo. Accept no substitutes!
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2024 09:17 PM (v6JzV)
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Make sure it's a real yak and not a dzo. Accept no substitutes!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 24, 2024 09:20 PM (dDmld)
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Thanks for the welcome, Weasel! And to Former?(A canoeing incident?) Gun Owner A. H. Lloyd, it was a show in Pueblo. It was really pretty decent. Lots of new guns as well as some very old stuff - could have snagged a Gatling gun for (a mere) $9,000.00!
Posted by: Don in SoCo at November 24, 2024 09:20 PM (vd6bO)
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Whig, good luck, and thanks for the always good advice.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 09:21 PM (2UpC3)
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Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2024 09:17 PM (v6JzV)
I'm planning on driving because I want to bring some NFA toys that I won't trust to the tender mercies of the airlines.
I'm planning on driving because I want to bring some NFA toys that I won't trust to the tender mercies of the airlines.
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 09:21 PM (AiJK3)
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254 Apologies, ma'am, did not mean to exclude you. Feel free to masticate to your heart's content.
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Hey! Nurse ain't no thespian!
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 24, 2024 09:14 PM (hovnC)
I didn't mean to imply that she was of Lebanese origin. My apologies. Those responsible have been sacked.
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Hey! Nurse ain't no thespian!
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 24, 2024 09:14 PM (hovnC)
I didn't mean to imply that she was of Lebanese origin. My apologies. Those responsible have been sacked.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:21 PM (v23vE)
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Seen online:
Beware of Christmas scams. I ordered my wife expensive jewelry, and they sent me a gun and two boxes of ammo.
Beware of Christmas scams. I ordered my wife expensive jewelry, and they sent me a gun and two boxes of ammo.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 24, 2024 09:22 PM (VNX3d)
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OK, all y'all 9:22 thank you time.
Thank you!
I cannot thank you enough for being here week after week. Have a very Happy Thanksgiving and hope to see you again next Sunday!
Thank you!
I cannot thank you enough for being here week after week. Have a very Happy Thanksgiving and hope to see you again next Sunday!
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 09:22 PM (fghTy)
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You would have to be a fairly enormous weirdo not to have a good time!
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 09:19 PM (fghTy)
I already tried that in 2021. Turns out that weirdos are acceptable in the sight of the attendees; enormous ones even more so.
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 09:19 PM (fghTy)
I already tried that in 2021. Turns out that weirdos are acceptable in the sight of the attendees; enormous ones even more so.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:23 PM (v23vE)
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Sorry if I was a tad contentious on the round in the pipe debate. It just makes sense to me and was how I was trained.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 24, 2024 09:23 PM (mH6SG)
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Thank you, Weasel. Best to you, WW, and doggies, new and old.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 09:23 PM (2UpC3)
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Chris Collinsworth, much like Howard Costello, has an excellent grasp of the obvious.
Shut up, Chris.
Shut up, Chris.
Posted by: tcn in AK at November 24, 2024 09:25 PM (wbIUs)
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You would have to be a fairly enormous weirdo...
I admit that I've put on a few pounds but "enormous" seems a bit much.
I admit that I've put on a few pounds but "enormous" seems a bit much.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 24, 2024 09:25 PM (/y8xj)
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255 Such is the power of a fully operational TXMoMe!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:13 PM (v23vE)
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Don't you mean "a fully *armed* and operational TXMoMe"?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 09:15 PM (ZOv7s)
Fair. I held back because:
(1) Didn't want to scare anyone away; and
(2) The "armed" part was kinda implied by anyone who's paying attention to the Gub Thread between, oh, say, September and Thanksgiving ...
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:13 PM (v23vE)
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Don't you mean "a fully *armed* and operational TXMoMe"?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 24, 2024 09:15 PM (ZOv7s)
Fair. I held back because:
(1) Didn't want to scare anyone away; and
(2) The "armed" part was kinda implied by anyone who's paying attention to the Gub Thread between, oh, say, September and Thanksgiving ...
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:25 PM (v23vE)
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Good night all, and a very Happy Thanksgiving to each of you and your families.
Wow, this is the last GT in Nov 2024....
Wow, this is the last GT in Nov 2024....
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at November 24, 2024 09:26 PM (IQ6Gq)
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All of you folks are the greatest people on the planet, and I hope you know and understand that. Hm.
As for me, I will be at TXMoMe, perhaps. Yes, I shall be there, maybe. Until then, there must be no regrets, no tears, no anxieties. Just go forward in your beliefs, and prove to me I am not mistaken in mine.
As for me, I will be at TXMoMe, perhaps. Yes, I shall be there, maybe. Until then, there must be no regrets, no tears, no anxieties. Just go forward in your beliefs, and prove to me I am not mistaken in mine.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 24, 2024 09:26 PM (CHHv1)
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271 OK, all y'all 9:22 thank you time.
Thank you!
I cannot thank you enough for being here week after week. Have a very Happy Thanksgiving and hope to see you again next Sunday!
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 09:22 PM (fghTy)
Same to you, your better half, and the doggos both old and new!
Thank you!
I cannot thank you enough for being here week after week. Have a very Happy Thanksgiving and hope to see you again next Sunday!
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 09:22 PM (fghTy)
Same to you, your better half, and the doggos both old and new!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:26 PM (v23vE)
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Thanks for hosting, Weasel!
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 09:27 PM (AiJK3)
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We've been to the TX MoMe and had a good time.
Posted by: Enormous Weirdos at November 24, 2024 09:27 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 24, 2024 09:28 PM (mH6SG)
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Any thoughts on Walther P22Q?
Bass Pro has them on sale starting tomorrow.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 24, 2024 09:04 PM (/lPRQ)
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What will you be using it for?
I like .22 for plinking and training, but would not use it for self defense.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
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Plinking
Bass Pro has them on sale starting tomorrow.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 24, 2024 09:04 PM (/lPRQ)
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What will you be using it for?
I like .22 for plinking and training, but would not use it for self defense.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
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Plinking
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 24, 2024 09:28 PM (/lPRQ)
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275 Chris Collinsworth, much like Howard Costello, has an excellent grasp of the obvious.
Shut up, Chris.
Posted by: tcn in AK
Omg. I can't stand him. Almost as infuriating as Bob Costas.
Shut up, Chris.
Posted by: tcn in AK
Omg. I can't stand him. Almost as infuriating as Bob Costas.
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 24, 2024 09:28 PM (YQBrg)
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>>> 282 We've been to the TX MoMe and had a good time.
Posted by: Enormous Weirdos at November 24, 2024 09:27 PM (IQ6Gq)
Same here!
Posted by: Enormous Weirdos at November 24, 2024 09:27 PM (IQ6Gq)
Same here!
Posted by: Medium and Minuscule Weirdos at November 24, 2024 09:29 PM (KcwUg)
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Gun Thread adjacent, perhaps? I spent much of the afternoon dismantling an old 17" NEC Multisync monitor. Come the nice weather in the Spring, I will place the CRT in my burn pit, and tape a target to the face of it. Actually have two CRT's, so Kaboom once, Kaboom twice.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 24, 2024 09:31 PM (IErdF)
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285 275 Chris Collinsworth, much like Howard Costello, has an excellent grasp of the obvious.
Shut up, Chris.
Posted by: tcn in AK
Omg. I can't stand him. Almost as infuriating as Bob Costas.
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 24, 2024 09:28 PM (YQBrg
Use the mute feature.
Shut up, Chris.
Posted by: tcn in AK
Omg. I can't stand him. Almost as infuriating as Bob Costas.
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 24, 2024 09:28 PM (YQBrg
Use the mute feature.
Posted by: Eromero at November 24, 2024 09:31 PM (LHPAg)
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Round in the chamber requires a one word answer--1911.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at November 24, 2024 09:31 PM (hKoQL)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 09:32 PM (Wnv9h)
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For ALL of the weirdos, please make the effort to come to a MoMe if you can. It's so much fun, at least for me, to watch new folks arrive for the first time and see their face light up as they realize they fit right in.
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 09:32 PM (fghTy)
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I believe DH will take me to the MoMe next October. He’s taking me to Hawaii in March. Getting old has its advantages.
Posted by: tcn in AK at November 24, 2024 09:33 PM (wbIUs)
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276 You would have to be a fairly enormous weirdo...
I admit that I've put on a few pounds but "enormous" seems a bit much.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 24, 2024 09:25 PM (/y8xj)
You think you're enormous? Please. I eat your enormousness for lunch, then go seek dessert.
Your AOR must have been excited this weekend, bowl eligibility and all that.
I admit that I've put on a few pounds but "enormous" seems a bit much.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 24, 2024 09:25 PM (/y8xj)
You think you're enormous? Please. I eat your enormousness for lunch, then go seek dessert.
Your AOR must have been excited this weekend, bowl eligibility and all that.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:33 PM (v23vE)
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Gonna need ~70 comments in the next 20 minutes or so to ensure Weasel gets to sleep in.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 24, 2024 09:34 PM (g07/a)
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292 I believe DH will take me to the MoMe next October. He’s taking me to Hawaii in March. Getting old has its advantages.
Posted by: tcn in AK at November 24, 2024 09:33 PM (wbIUs)
Awesome! Hawaii and Corsicana in the same year!
Posted by: tcn in AK at November 24, 2024 09:33 PM (wbIUs)
Awesome! Hawaii and Corsicana in the same year!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:35 PM (v23vE)
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290 Punching out for tonight.
Thanks for a great Gub Thread, Weasel!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 09:32 PM (Wnv9h)
Evening, sir. Hope you have a great Thanksgiving!
Thanks for a great Gub Thread, Weasel!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2024 09:32 PM (Wnv9h)
Evening, sir. Hope you have a great Thanksgiving!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:36 PM (v23vE)
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291. Right. Howdya figure out the location and date in your region? Is there an internship that must be completed first?
Posted by: Don in SoCo at November 24, 2024 09:36 PM (vd6bO)
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It was fun while it kasted.
Posted by: Eromero at November 24, 2024 09:36 PM (LHPAg)
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Lasted
Posted by: Eromero at November 24, 2024 09:36 PM (LHPAg)
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Uh oh.
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 09:35 PM (fghTy)
We got your back, sir, until that Zoom call comes in from a certain Ewok ...
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Uh oh.
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 09:35 PM (fghTy)
We got your back, sir, until that Zoom call comes in from a certain Ewok ...
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:36 PM (v23vE)
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I do believe I saw that Nebraska is bowl eligible too!
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at November 24, 2024 09:37 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Eh bought me a lovely AR style .308 for shooting bears if the come into the yard after the dogs. Not so easy to find ammo for that just now. We can’t order ammo because it has to be driven through Canada. Can’t be air freighted. Boo.
Posted by: tcn in AK at November 24, 2024 09:37 PM (wbIUs)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 24, 2024 09:37 PM (g07/a)
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>>> 292 I believe DH will take me to the MoMe next October. He's taking me to Hawaii in March. Getting old has its advantages.
Posted by: tcn in AK at November 24, 2024 09:33 PM (wbIUs)
Excellent!
Posted by: tcn in AK at November 24, 2024 09:33 PM (wbIUs)
Excellent!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 24, 2024 09:37 PM (KcwUg)
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214 Just setting you up for the big 300. Getting ready?
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 08:53 PM (IQ6Gq)
Zeroed and dialed in, sir.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 08:54 PM
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Ahem...
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 08:53 PM (IQ6Gq)
Zeroed and dialed in, sir.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 08:54 PM
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Ahem...
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 09:37 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Right. Howdya figure out the location and date in your region? Is there an internship that must be completed first?
Posted by: Don in SoCo at November 24, 2024 09:36 PM (vd6bO)
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Keep an eye on the main page left sidebar for MoMe announcements. Approximately the 3rd-ish week in Oct is the jamboree hootenanny in TX.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at November 24, 2024 09:36 PM (vd6bO)
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Keep an eye on the main page left sidebar for MoMe announcements. Approximately the 3rd-ish week in Oct is the jamboree hootenanny in TX.
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 09:38 PM (fghTy)
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>>> 303 Eh bought me a lovely AR style .308 for shooting bears if they come into the yard after the dogs. Not so easy to find ammo for that just now. We can't order ammo because it has to be driven through Canada. Can't be air freighted. Boo.
Posted by: tcn in AK at November 24, 2024 09:37 PM (wbIUs)
So if I win the lottery, I could start up manufacturing in AK?
Posted by: tcn in AK at November 24, 2024 09:37 PM (wbIUs)
So if I win the lottery, I could start up manufacturing in AK?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 24, 2024 09:38 PM (KcwUg)
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302 I do believe I saw that Nebraska is bowl eligible too!
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at November 24, 2024 09:37 PM (IQ6Gq)
They are indeed, ma'am. Oddbob is, as memory serves, in the vicinity of theBugeatersCornhuskers.
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at November 24, 2024 09:37 PM (IQ6Gq)
They are indeed, ma'am. Oddbob is, as memory serves, in the vicinity of the
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:39 PM (v23vE)
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Even Ace can't expect us to beat the FT the week of Thanksgiving!
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at November 24, 2024 09:39 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Eh? Autocucumber. DH, dammit.
Posted by: tcn in AK at November 24, 2024 09:39 PM (wbIUs)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 24, 2024 09:39 PM (g07/a)
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306 214 Just setting you up for the big 300. Getting ready?
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 08:53 PM (IQ6Gq)
Zeroed and dialed in, sir.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 08:54 PM
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Ahem...
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 09:37 PM (IQ6Gq)
Didn't say I was a good shot. But you knew that already.
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 08:53 PM (IQ6Gq)
Zeroed and dialed in, sir.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 08:54 PM
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Ahem...
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 09:37 PM (IQ6Gq)
Didn't say I was a good shot. But you knew that already.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:39 PM (v23vE)
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Thanks for another fined Gub thread, Weasel. I'm out. As Broderick Crawford said, 10-4.
Posted by: Gref at November 24, 2024 09:40 PM (aBgBM)
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So if I win the lottery, I could start up manufacturing in AK?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 24, 2024 09:38 PM (KcwUg)
Absolutely.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 24, 2024 09:38 PM (KcwUg)
Absolutely.
Posted by: tcn in AK at November 24, 2024 09:40 PM (wbIUs)
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I believe DH will take me to the MoMe next October. He’s taking me to Hawaii in March. Getting old has its advantages.
Posted by: tcn in AK
I lived on the Big Island for a while. South of Hilo. Could tell you cool things to do there but most all of it was buried by lava flows.
Did take my wife to the Army Reserve/Guard range out by the Hilo airport one year. She was coached by my uncle and some other vets who had connections with the Guard. She did quite well.
Posted by: tcn in AK
I lived on the Big Island for a while. South of Hilo. Could tell you cool things to do there but most all of it was buried by lava flows.
Did take my wife to the Army Reserve/Guard range out by the Hilo airport one year. She was coached by my uncle and some other vets who had connections with the Guard. She did quite well.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 24, 2024 09:40 PM (/lPRQ)
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303 Eh bought me a lovely AR style .308 for shooting bears if the come into the yard after the dogs. Not so easy to find ammo for that just now. We can’t order ammo because it has to be driven through Canada. Can’t be air freighted. Boo.
Posted by: tcn in AK
Erf. Gotta barge it up? That's a shitload of ammo.
Posted by: tcn in AK
Erf. Gotta barge it up? That's a shitload of ammo.
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 24, 2024 09:40 PM (BT7V7)
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307. Thank you kindly. I have been lurking here lol these many years only occasionally commenting, but you good people are interesting, and I get down to Texas a lot.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at November 24, 2024 09:40 PM (vd6bO)
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Your AOR must have been excited this weekend, bowl eligibility and all that.
We're about 5 miles from the stadium as the crow flies. We heard the fireworks.
We're about 5 miles from the stadium as the crow flies. We heard the fireworks.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 24, 2024 09:41 PM (/y8xj)
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Just went through the 8H renewal course for MD CCW today. 25 rnd course of fire - hit the man sized target, scored by number in the black. Easy, but surprised how much off I was at the early close-in shots - way off center of mass. I started shooting thinking bullseye shooting, 25 yds, so shooting at 3 just seems too close. But from a defense perspective - I get it - it's point shooting, not necessarily sights. Any good drills or recommendations on how to practice this effectively? Just feel I should be quicker and more accurate - not hitting the target in the hip for those first couple shots. After I settled in, was in 8s or better for the rest of the course of fire, but think I could use some fundamentals work for close-in defensive shooting.
Posted by: MD_Mike at November 24, 2024 09:41 PM (BouEL)
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317 AkBargeMoMe
Posted by: Don in SoCo at November 24, 2024 09:42 PM (vd6bO)
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Weasel, maybe Gertie can distract Ace, and calm him down?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 24, 2024 09:42 PM (g07/a)
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103 Looks like most everyone carries with one ready to go!
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 07:52 PM
I was pretty sure that would be the case.
However, I still greatly appreciate the "Weasel Poll" - knowing the demographics of your survey group!
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 07:52 PM
I was pretty sure that would be the case.
However, I still greatly appreciate the "Weasel Poll" - knowing the demographics of your survey group!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 24, 2024 09:42 PM (HlyYF)
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298 291. Right. Howdya figure out the location and date in your region? Is there an internship that must be completed first?
Posted by: Don in SoCo at November 24, 2024 09:36 PM (vd6bO)
No. But we do hold exercise classes every morning at 6a.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at November 24, 2024 09:36 PM (vd6bO)
No. But we do hold exercise classes every morning at 6a.
Posted by: Piper at November 24, 2024 09:42 PM (pZEOD)
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He’s taking me to Hawaii in March. Getting old has its advantages.
Posted by: tcn in AK at November 24, 2024 09:33 PM (wbIUs)
If you can hack it, do climb to the top of Diamond Head to watch the sunrise. It's a nice view of the city of Honolulu from the top. If you want to go to the USS Arizona Memorial, go there as early as you can get there (preferably by 0630) to wait for them to start handing out the free tickets for the USN boat ride to the memorial. First come, first served. Usually, all of the tickets for the whole day (last trip is about 3:30 PM, I think) are gone between 0830 and 0900, so don't dawdle if you want to make that trip.
Posted by: tcn in AK at November 24, 2024 09:33 PM (wbIUs)
If you can hack it, do climb to the top of Diamond Head to watch the sunrise. It's a nice view of the city of Honolulu from the top. If you want to go to the USS Arizona Memorial, go there as early as you can get there (preferably by 0630) to wait for them to start handing out the free tickets for the USN boat ride to the memorial. First come, first served. Usually, all of the tickets for the whole day (last trip is about 3:30 PM, I think) are gone between 0830 and 0900, so don't dawdle if you want to make that trip.
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 09:43 PM (AiJK3)
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Hey there PI, Happy Thanksgiving to you and your wife!
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at November 24, 2024 09:43 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Thanks Horde, thanks Weasel, and thanks Enormous Weirdos for another fun gub thread. Best wishes to all who are traveling for the Thanksgiving holiday. See y'all around.
Remember, your AoS family is always here if you need a break from the family you are related to during the holiday (or at any time).
Remember, your AoS family is always here if you need a break from the family you are related to during the holiday (or at any time).
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 09:43 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Giving CBD bragging rights this week could make him nigh insufferable in the CoB Staff Meetings.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 24, 2024 09:44 PM (g07/a)
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We can’t order ammo because it has to be driven through Canada.
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That's odd because firearms stores here do deliver ammo although I don't know if through the regular mail service [that I know ordinary people can't use as it's hazardous material -- I checked because I wanted to send my nephew some ammo] or via courier company.
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That's odd because firearms stores here do deliver ammo although I don't know if through the regular mail service [that I know ordinary people can't use as it's hazardous material -- I checked because I wanted to send my nephew some ammo] or via courier company.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 24, 2024 09:45 PM (hovnC)
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Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 24, 2024 09:42 PM (g07/a)
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Nah, I just have to face the consequences of my total and complete failure.
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Nah, I just have to face the consequences of my total and complete failure.
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 09:45 PM (fghTy)
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Enormous Weirdos would be a good name for a punk band.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 24, 2024 09:46 PM (/y8xj)
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Posted by: MD_Mike at November 24, 2024 09:41 PM (BouEL)
Start doing what you want to do slowly to make sure you get the hits/accuracy you want. Try to speed up without losing accuracy. Slow down again if your accuracy starts to slip.
IPSC target shooting might help because the scoring system forces you to find a compromise between speed and accuracy with each target and the whole course of fire. Hope this helps.
Start doing what you want to do slowly to make sure you get the hits/accuracy you want. Try to speed up without losing accuracy. Slow down again if your accuracy starts to slip.
IPSC target shooting might help because the scoring system forces you to find a compromise between speed and accuracy with each target and the whole course of fire. Hope this helps.
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 09:48 PM (AiJK3)
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We're about 5 miles from the stadium as the crow flies. We heard the fireworks.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 24, 2024 09:41 PM (/y8xj)
Sad as hell that my fellow 'Husker fans are that excited about six wins, but the team has not been to a bowl since 2016. Baby steps.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 24, 2024 09:41 PM (/y8xj)
Sad as hell that my fellow 'Husker fans are that excited about six wins, but the team has not been to a bowl since 2016. Baby steps.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:48 PM (v23vE)
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292 I believe DH will take me to the MoMe next October. He’s taking me to Hawaii in March. Getting old has its advantages.
Posted by: tcn in AK a
Looking forward to meeting you, fair winds and all!
Posted by: tcn in AK a
Looking forward to meeting you, fair winds and all!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NEXT Year In Corsicana - again! ~ at November 24, 2024 09:49 PM (hOUT3)
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328 Giving CBD bragging rights this week could make him nigh insufferable in the CoB Staff Meetings.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 24, 2024 09:44 PM (g07/a)
Those meetings should be livestreamed. Just sayin' ....
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 24, 2024 09:44 PM (g07/a)
Those meetings should be livestreamed. Just sayin' ....
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:50 PM (v23vE)
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Giving CBD bragging rights this week could make him nigh insufferable in the CoB Staff Meetings.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 24, 2024 09:44 PM (g07/a)
Have you met him? Because he is insufferable regardless!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 24, 2024 09:44 PM (g07/a)
Have you met him? Because he is insufferable regardless!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 24, 2024 09:52 PM (d9fT1)
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A Very Happy Thanksgiving to All of the Horde!
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2024 09:52 PM (v6JzV)
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335 Those meetings should be livestreamed. Just sayin' ....
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:50 PM
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Don't mind the hobby thread guy trying to keep a low profile and vanish into the wallpaper.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:50 PM
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Don't mind the hobby thread guy trying to keep a low profile and vanish into the wallpaper.
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 09:52 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Those meetings should be livestreamed. Just sayin' ....
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:50 PM (v23vE)
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They're awful, what with all of the yelling and sobbing.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:50 PM (v23vE)
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They're awful, what with all of the yelling and sobbing.
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 09:53 PM (fghTy)
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Ok, we gotta get a few more comments.
Yup, Jr. formalized with DILIT on Oahu. Not a Sig, but a beeyootifull diamond with emeralds.
I may get grandkids out of this while I am still sentient.
Yup, Jr. formalized with DILIT on Oahu. Not a Sig, but a beeyootifull diamond with emeralds.
I may get grandkids out of this while I am still sentient.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 09:53 PM (2UpC3)
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336 Giving CBD bragging rights this week could make him nigh insufferable in the CoB Staff Meetings.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 24, 2024 09:44 PM (g07/a)
Have you met him? Because he is insufferable regardless!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 24, 2024 09:52 PM (d9fT1)
No, he isn't. He's actually very personable ...
oh, crap, was I supposed to keep that to myself?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 24, 2024 09:44 PM (g07/a)
Have you met him? Because he is insufferable regardless!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 24, 2024 09:52 PM (d9fT1)
No, he isn't. He's actually very personable ...
oh, crap, was I supposed to keep that to myself?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:53 PM (v23vE)
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so don't dawdle if you want to make that trip.
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 09:43 PM (AiJK3)
There whole experience was so well done and so moving. Put it on your priority list!
Posted by: Ed L at November 24, 2024 09:43 PM (AiJK3)
There whole experience was so well done and so moving. Put it on your priority list!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NEXT Year In Corsicana - again! ~ at November 24, 2024 09:54 PM (hOUT3)
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340 I may get grandkids out of this while I am still sentient.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 09:53 PM
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Congrats! You can provide baby's first bullets!
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 09:53 PM
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Congrats! You can provide baby's first bullets!
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 09:54 PM (IQ6Gq)
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No range report.
But the Model 70 bagged another deer.
It's brining tonight before vacuum sealing tomorrow.
But the Model 70 bagged another deer.
It's brining tonight before vacuum sealing tomorrow.
Posted by: Chappyman66 at November 24, 2024 09:55 PM (fwM0m)
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340 Ok, we gotta get a few more comments.
Yup, Jr. formalized with DILIT on Oahu. Not a Sig, but a beeyootifull diamond with emeralds.
I may get grandkids out of this while I am still sentient.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 09:53 PM (2UpC3)
Congrats, RI! I love the fact that she's been DILIT for so long, but it's time she was promoted to DILRSN (DIL Real Soon Now™
Yup, Jr. formalized with DILIT on Oahu. Not a Sig, but a beeyootifull diamond with emeralds.
I may get grandkids out of this while I am still sentient.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 09:53 PM (2UpC3)
Congrats, RI! I love the fact that she's been DILIT for so long, but it's time she was promoted to DILRSN (DIL Real Soon Now™
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:55 PM (v23vE)
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Don't mind the hobby thread guy trying to keep a low profile and vanish into the wallpaper.
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 09:52 PM (IQ6Gq)
It's 2024. Wallpaper is so 1978 ...
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 09:52 PM (IQ6Gq)
It's 2024. Wallpaper is so 1978 ...
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:57 PM (v23vE)
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Congrats! You can provide baby's first bullets!
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 09:54 PM (IQ6Gq)
I already volunteered to homeschool them.
Math will include ballistics.
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 09:54 PM (IQ6Gq)
I already volunteered to homeschool them.
Math will include ballistics.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 09:57 PM (2UpC3)
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Yes to one in the chamber.
Posted by: lin-duh at November 24, 2024 09:57 PM (Kcw7x)
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339 Those meetings should be livestreamed. Just sayin' ....
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:50 PM (v23vE)
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They're awful, what with all of the yelling and sobbing.
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 09:53 PM (fghTy)
Which is why I wanted the livestream, but anyway ...
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:50 PM (v23vE)
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They're awful, what with all of the yelling and sobbing.
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 09:53 PM (fghTy)
Which is why I wanted the livestream, but anyway ...
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:57 PM (v23vE)
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346 It's 2024. Wallpaper is so 1978 ...
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:57 PM
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Have you seen the meeting room? Budget for decoration updates is paltry.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:57 PM
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Have you seen the meeting room? Budget for decoration updates is paltry.
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 09:58 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Yes to one in the chamber.
Posted by: lin-duh at November 24, 2024 09:57 PM (Kcw7x)
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Hey! I haven't forgotten that I owe you an email.
Posted by: lin-duh at November 24, 2024 09:57 PM (Kcw7x)
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Hey! I haven't forgotten that I owe you an email.
Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2024 09:58 PM (fghTy)
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348 Yes to one in the chamber.
Posted by: lin-duh at November 24, 2024 09:57 PM (Kcw7x)
Evening, ma'am. Hope all is well in the Big Blue Dot in the middle of TX.
Posted by: lin-duh at November 24, 2024 09:57 PM (Kcw7x)
Evening, ma'am. Hope all is well in the Big Blue Dot in the middle of TX.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:58 PM (v23vE)
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One in the chamber depends on the pistol. My H&K? Yes. My 1911? Yes. My Sig? No.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 24, 2024 09:59 PM (d9fT1)
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Congrats, RI! I love the fact that she's been DILIT for so long, but it's time she was promoted to DILRSN (DIL Real Soon Now™
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:55 PM (v23vE)
Yeah, they sure have their own schedule which has not been shared with me. But I did tell them I need to be healthy enough to do Little League again.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:55 PM (v23vE)
Yeah, they sure have their own schedule which has not been shared with me. But I did tell them I need to be healthy enough to do Little League again.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 09:59 PM (2UpC3)
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347 Congrats! You can provide baby's first bullets!
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 09:54 PM (IQ6Gq)
I already volunteered to homeschool them.
Math will include ballistics.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 09:57 PM (2UpC3)
Ballistics?
Cosines?
Mr. Weasel, please pick up the white courtesy phone.
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 09:54 PM (IQ6Gq)
I already volunteered to homeschool them.
Math will include ballistics.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 09:57 PM (2UpC3)
Ballistics?
Cosines?
Mr. Weasel, please pick up the white courtesy phone.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 09:59 PM (v23vE)
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 24, 2024 10:01 PM (iZaDk)
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356!
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 10:01 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Congrats RI Red! Hoping they will be happy and give you lots of grandbabies!
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at November 24, 2024 10:01 PM (IQ6Gq)
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357!
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 24, 2024 10:01 PM (iZaDk)
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Doof ONT nood!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 24, 2024 10:01 PM (v23vE)
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Well. Crap.
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 24, 2024 10:01 PM (iZaDk)
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And I reminded them that family membership at the range is for actually married people.
Must have been the final straw.
Must have been the final straw.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 10:01 PM (2UpC3)
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Have you met him? Because he is insufferable regardless!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 24, 2024 09:52 PM
Why, yes, yes I have met him. In fact, the only negative thing I've heard is he didn't pay off his bet when the Red Sox won the World Series.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 24, 2024 09:52 PM
Why, yes, yes I have met him. In fact, the only negative thing I've heard is he didn't pay off his bet when the Red Sox won the World Series.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 24, 2024 10:02 PM (g07/a)
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Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 24, 2024 10:01 PM
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When multiple shots are necessary to ensure the objective is accomplished.
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When multiple shots are necessary to ensure the objective is accomplished.
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 10:02 PM (IQ6Gq)
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FNX45, one in the chamber. By the way, it's ambidextrous magazine release has become very stiff. I guess. Some disassembly and deep cleaning is in order.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at November 24, 2024 10:02 PM (vd6bO)
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355 347 Congrats! You can provide baby's first bullets!
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 09:54 PM (IQ6Gq)
I already volunteered to homeschool them.
Math will include ballistics.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 09:57 PM (2UpC3)
Ballistics?
Cosines?
Mr. Weasel, please pick up the white courtesy phone.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy
Who's up for the Coriolis Effect Seminar?
Posted by: TRex at November 24, 2024 09:54 PM (IQ6Gq)
I already volunteered to homeschool them.
Math will include ballistics.
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 09:57 PM (2UpC3)
Ballistics?
Cosines?
Mr. Weasel, please pick up the white courtesy phone.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy
Who's up for the Coriolis Effect Seminar?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NEXT Year In Corsicana - again! ~ at November 24, 2024 10:02 PM (hOUT3)
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326 Hey there PI, Happy Thanksgiving to you and your wife!
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at November 24, 2024 09:43 PM
Happy Thanksgiving to you, and your dinosaur too!
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at November 24, 2024 09:43 PM
Happy Thanksgiving to you, and your dinosaur too!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 24, 2024 10:02 PM (HlyYF)
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Well done, Gun Thread Commentators. Well done.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 24, 2024 10:05 PM (g07/a)
Posted by: lin-duh at November 24, 2024 10:05 PM (Kcw7x)
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DThrax, I do appreciate the countdown. Have a great thanksgiving!
Posted by: RI Red at November 24, 2024 10:06 PM (2UpC3)
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356 357!
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage
357 356!
Posted by: TRex
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359 357!
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage
361 Well. Crap.
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage
357 356!
Posted by: TRex
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359 357!
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage
361 Well. Crap.
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 24, 2024 10:08 PM (hovnC)
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I went to the range this week. I wanted to work on sight picture and point of aim/impact on a firearm I haven’t used in a while. At 3 yards, I was in fact low and left. At 10 yards, I was slightly left, but no longer low. Still working on grip fundamentals.
I don’t currently carry, but every weapon in my home is loaded with an empty chamber. The idea is that everything I might need is in the same state. If I pick it up, I know what needs to be done to use it. When I carry, a round will be chambered for immediate use.
I own a copy of Gift of Fear. It is an excellent read for about half the book. Once the author is done explaining the source of unease and why you should pay attention to it, they lapse into name-dropping who they know and work with. Then they close with all the reasons why “normal” people shouldn’t be armed.
I don’t currently carry, but every weapon in my home is loaded with an empty chamber. The idea is that everything I might need is in the same state. If I pick it up, I know what needs to be done to use it. When I carry, a round will be chambered for immediate use.
I own a copy of Gift of Fear. It is an excellent read for about half the book. Once the author is done explaining the source of unease and why you should pay attention to it, they lapse into name-dropping who they know and work with. Then they close with all the reasons why “normal” people shouldn’t be armed.
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