Gun Thread: Mid-November Edition!

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Holy Shitballs! How in the ever-loving Hell did it get to be mid-November? The time, she flies! I really need to make a trip to the farm-o to do some shooting and practice my fundamentals. I have yet to shoot the Browning target pistol I was recently gifted, and I also want to shoot the Kimber Micro 9 some more. It ran flawlessly the first time out of the box but that was less than 50 rounds, so I need to spend some more quality time with it. Taking my own most excellent advice, I recently took advantage of a great ammo deal from Georgia Arms, enjoying 10% off and free shipping on my $150+ order. The sale is still going on, so if you're looking to add to your inventory this is a deal that is hard to beat. Buy Ammo!

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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FUNdamentals

*SIGH*
You haven't been focusing on your fundamentals, have you? Can anyone give me a good reason why focusing on fundamentals each and every time you pull the trigger is a bad idea?

Fine, let's go back to the beginning and have a look at stance.

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Weasel at 07:00 PM

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1 Ka-POW!!!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 17, 2024 07:00 PM (0XVad)

2 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at November 17, 2024 07:01 PM (fwDg9)

3 BLAM BLAM BLAM!

Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 17, 2024 07:01 PM (zgRls)

4 Congrats Scoob! Howdy Horde. Thanks Weasel.

Posted by: TRex at November 17, 2024 07:01 PM (IQ6Gq)

5 Gun's up!

Posted by: GWB at November 17, 2024 07:01 PM (M+Nrs)

6 Good Sunday evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, congrats Scoob on the FIRST!!!, and special greetings to our host who deserves both 10% off and free shipping, Weasel.

Off to the content!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 17, 2024 07:02 PM (v23vE)

7 Thanks for the Gun Thread Weasel! Where is your Webber Turkey Recipe? Was it posted somewhere?

Posted by: DBCooper at November 17, 2024 07:03 PM (y1Mvi)

8 "Don't want your firearm to end up like the Colt 1903 above?"

Appears the video says it is a 1913. One demerit. :-p

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 17, 2024 07:03 PM (0XVad)

9 Buy ammo!
Seems like I have heard that before, and every time I heard it, I thought that is a really good idea!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NEXT Year In Corsicana - again! ~ at November 17, 2024 07:03 PM (hOUT3)

10 This came up yesterday on my YouTube, a Mark Felton video
Donald Trump - license to carry
And possible firearms he might have
tinyurl.com/4pr4n5hy

Posted by: Skip at November 17, 2024 07:03 PM (fwDg9)

11 Aaaah. Sunday night GT. My favorite time of the week.

Posted by: RI Red at November 17, 2024 07:04 PM (1Jzj5)

12 Range report.

It's been over a month, so I was expecting the worst.

Took my easiest pistol for me to shoot, the Walther PPQ. Didn't take too long to settle down and start putting rounds through the same hole. Concentrated on trigger pull, calm, smooth, straight back.

Finished with plinking the Ruger Mark IV. I love how it's so decompressing after a week of loony tunes in Seattle being, well, looney.

Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 17, 2024 07:04 PM (zgRls)

13 Good evening gub threaders and all the ships at sea!

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 07:05 PM (QfvaV)

14 Have not fired a shot in over two months, life keeps getting in the way.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 17, 2024 07:05 PM (QNSds)

15 12 Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 17, 2024 07:04 PM

Hey nurse, sounds like you were practicing the FUNdamentals. May I ask what caliber the PPQ is in?

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 17, 2024 07:06 PM (0XVad)

16 Howdy Horde. Evenin' Weasel!

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at November 17, 2024 07:07 PM (kOluj)

17 Posted by: DBCooper at November 17, 2024 07:03 PM (y1Mvi)
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It's in TDG

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 07:07 PM (fghTy)

18 Thanks again for the thread, weasel!

I don't know about that guy's stance though. I seem to recall a few Range Rambo's standing straight up with their feet together.

I'm not to sure about that whole leaning into the shot so recoil doesn't make one take a step back.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 17, 2024 07:08 PM (tT6L1)

19 Skip
I saw the Felton piece yesterday as well.
Some of the comments are almost Horde worthy.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, McFailure wing of the Uniparty at November 17, 2024 07:09 PM (S8AVl)

20 Thanks Weasel! Hi Nurse!

Posted by: DBCooper at November 17, 2024 07:09 PM (y1Mvi)

21 *SIGH*
You haven't been focusing on your fundamentals, have you?

He's right, but don't blame me. *I* didn't tell him.

Posted by: Bob from NSA at November 17, 2024 07:09 PM (a3Q+t)

22 8 "Don't want your firearm to end up like the Colt 1903 above?"

Appears the video says it is a 1913. One demerit. :-p
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 17, 2024 07:03 PM (0XVad)
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Sure, Scoob. Sure. It says 1903.

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 07:10 PM (fghTy)

23 Buy ammo? Nah.
But I rolled my own lot today. .308, 175 g SMK.
I was getting some extractor scuffing, so I backed off from exploring the upper end.
Should shoot just under 1 MOA.
I love hand loading.

Posted by: RI Red at November 17, 2024 07:10 PM (wqLUo)

24 Here's a reminder that apparently I need reminding of - if your gun oriented equipment runs on batteries, check them frequently and replace them on a regular basis.

Today's range trip we decided to run some of our house guns because we need to make sure they are in good stead and to rotate the stuff we shoot.

One of the Ruger P95s resides in one of those hide-away-shelf thingies and the RFID card made it go beep beep beep and nothing else. It SHOULD go beeep and open.

There is a way to attach an external battery pack and I got it open and replaced the batteries in the shelf thingy.

This was a better time to find out about that some other time.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 07:10 PM (QfvaV)

25 Last week, someone mentioned the TX MoMe badges and how they didn't work very well as badges and attempted to save me some bruising on my ego. As the designer of those badges, mine was the first one made and it was also (as it happens) the first one lost at the MoMe. My sweetie was able to find the one I lost and it definitely works better than as a memento than as a name badge. In fact, by Saturday afternoon I'd given up and was just using one of the adhesive name tags that were available.

I don't know if I'll do badges for 2025, but if I do I'll have some other arrangement to hold it on to folks. There's no need to salve my ego (my day job is working on stuff that matters and those guys don't pull any of their punches when I screw up) I just ask that you not give me more than the usual level of crap associated with public screw ups.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 17, 2024 07:11 PM (iZEhM)

26 Pew Pew Tactical guy did NOT do a "low-ready" stance there at the end (IMO). He dropped the gun with his arms still straight. So his gun is pointing at the floor. It is nowhere near "ready" to engage another target at that point.

He should bend his arms so the handgun is still pointed in the direction of his targets. The upper arms descend from his shoulders, then from the elbow to muzzle is horizontal and can engage at any time from that position or anywhere up to a full stance.

Posted by: GWB at November 17, 2024 07:12 PM (M+Nrs)

27 Also, while I understand why everyone loves the 2-handed grip, it would be nice to at least acknowledge stances that use a 1-handed grip.

Posted by: GWB at November 17, 2024 07:13 PM (M+Nrs)

28 So, Trump, national reciprocity.
I passed 4 hours ages ago.

Posted by: RI Red at November 17, 2024 07:14 PM (wqLUo)

29 I don't know if I'll do badges for 2025, but if I do I'll have some other arrangement to hold it on to folks.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 17, 2024 07:11 PM (iZEhM)
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I'd suggest screws for those who complained.

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 07:15 PM (fghTy)

30 I'd suggest screws for those who complained.
Posted by: Weasel

Nail gun!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NEXT Year In Corsicana - again! ~ at November 17, 2024 07:15 PM (hOUT3)

31 No range report this week. However, I did make the acquaintance of a fellow retired Marine who is involved in long range shooting. I suspect if I mentioned his name, Weasel would know him.
For the interest of members of the Horde in the NoVa area, this is what he has to say about the matches he's involved with:
"These matches are held in Culpepper, VA. they are very informal, but run same way as old time Marine Corps matches. Lots of old Marines, women, teenagers, FBI, contractors, ordinary everyday folks, but also beginners. They will hold the line up to help a new shooter having an issue and no one bitches about it. I have been that person 🥴. We have had between 15 and 70 shooters. There is permanent cover and there are benches for us old shooters. 1/2

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at November 17, 2024 07:16 PM (Hdixl)

32 I see there are over 3.4 thousand comments now.

Posted by: Skip at November 17, 2024 07:16 PM (fwDg9)

33 Well, I've been doing weekday postings, so I figured I'd pop i here as well.

Confirmed the zero on my CVA Scout in .44 Magnum early in the week, spent Opening Day staring out into a vacant woodlot.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 17, 2024 07:16 PM (llXky)

34 I don't know if I'll do badges for 2025, but if I do I'll have some other arrangement to hold it on to folks.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 17, 2024 07:11 PM
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I'd suggest screws for those who complained.
Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 07:15 PM

I was actually thinking rivets. Not pop rivets. The kind that are forged in place.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 17, 2024 07:16 PM (iZEhM)

35 It had been a bit since we fired either of the P95s. It's weird that gun takes a warm up after shooting a different gun. We tend to shoot 5 round mags and pick up the P95 after another gun (or after not shooting for a long time) and those first 5 just go wherever.

But once you have done that it shoots pretty well.

It was DMV MGC day so swa was there and shot it and first time it did not fully cycle - forgot that gun did not like her at all. But after that reminder she tightened up her grip and it worked fine after that.

A year or more ago she would TRY to shoot that pistol and it would not cycle for her. Now she shows it who is boss! Fundamentals!

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 07:17 PM (QfvaV)

36 GWB, I always include strong hand and weak hand in my handgun sessions. It will point out basic flaws you might not notice with 2 hand.

Posted by: RI Red at November 17, 2024 07:17 PM (wqLUo)

37 Also, while I understand why everyone loves the 2-handed grip, it would be nice to at least acknowledge stances that use a 1-handed grip.
Posted by: GWB at November 17, 2024 07:13 PM (M+Nrs)
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Some firearms function considerably better from a single hand grip. Vintage .32s come to mind.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 17, 2024 07:17 PM (llXky)

38 I don't know if I'll do badges for 2025, but if I do I'll have some other arrangement to hold it on to folks.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 17, 2024 07:11 PM (iZEhM)
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I'd suggest screws for those who complained.
Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 07:15 PM (fghTy)

Keeping on-topic: Use one of these... Ramset HammerShot 0.22 Caliber Single Shot Tool

https://tinyurl.com/yc7mvsae

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 17, 2024 07:18 PM (VNX3d)

39 I just ask that you not give me more than the usual level of crap associated with public screw ups.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 17, 2024 07:11 PM

Sir. This is the Gun Thread.

Unlike the Food Thread, no one here would even think about giving anyone even a soupçon of crap about a public screw up.

Posted by: The Fourth Shot at November 17, 2024 07:18 PM (a3Q+t)

40 2/2
The rifle we shoot steel starting at 100 yards to verify zero. Then the targets vary out to 1100 yards and back with the last target being #%*~# eggs hanging on a string usually about a yard long. You get two shots at each target. Entry is $25. After you have gone through one time and if there is an open spot, you can go through again, no additional fee. I’ve gone through as many as three times. Rifle calibers run from 6mm and 300win mag. No 338 Lapua 🤢 save those for the mile match, $50.
The .22 match runs pretty much the same way and so far we have only gone out to 320 yards."
If anyone is interested, I can put you in touch with him.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at November 17, 2024 07:18 PM (Hdixl)

41 30 Nail gun!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NEXT Year In Corsicana - again! ~ at November 17, 2024 07:15 PM

Hot tip galvanized?

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 17, 2024 07:19 PM (0XVad)

42 TDTESS is indeed a great movie!
V2 was horrible and could of been so much better.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 17, 2024 07:19 PM (W/lyH)

43 You work overtime for extra money, then you spend it like it was special.

Posted by: Eromero at November 17, 2024 07:20 PM (LHPAg)

44 Also pulled the AR pistol out of the laager to shoot today. I don't think it has been fired in at least 2 years. I think I had it out when sra blaster first started shooting with me maybe 3 years ago? Anyway she didn't really like it then. It is loud, and she was not really familiar with the platform. Then.

Today she was like "ooh that was fun I really liked it." Yeah, she showed it who's boss. She has been practicing fundamentals!

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 07:20 PM (QfvaV)

45 15 12 Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 17, 2024 07:04 PM

Hey nurse, sounds like you were practicing the FUNdamentals. May I ask what caliber the PPQ is in?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November

9mm. It's a great pistol for me. Too bad it's too big to cc.

Next week I'll take the 1911s out. It's my bedside pistol. You break into my domicile uninvited and you will be ventilated. My boys know never to just let themselves in without getting a response from me.

Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 17, 2024 07:20 PM (zgRls)

46 Sure, Scoob. Sure. It says 1903.
Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 07:10 PM (fghTy)
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What is now known as the "vest pocket" is not to be confused with the "hammerless," which is considerably larger. I think there was also a forerunner to the 1911 released in 1903.

John Browning was on a roll!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 17, 2024 07:21 PM (llXky)

47 8 "Don't want your firearm to end up like the Colt 1903 above?"

Appears the video says it is a 1913. One demerit. :-p
Posted by: Scuba_Dude
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Sure, Scoob. Sure. It says 1903.
Posted by: Weasel
You guys are great.

Model 1908 built in 1913.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 17, 2024 07:21 PM (dg271)

48 DBCooper!

Howdy! How's the desert?

Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 17, 2024 07:22 PM (zgRls)

49 Howdy Weasel! Appreciate the well-oiled content.

Good evening to the assembled Hordelings as well!

Posted by: Doof at November 17, 2024 07:22 PM (RFPHU)

50 So, range report, failure edition. (seems to be a habit lately)

Anyway, I bought a new bipod, Sinclair F Class. I got it set up to work with 1,000 yard rifle and headed to the range. I made sure of zero and the bipod seemed to get the job done quite well. (low round count on this trip)

Groovy. Headed to the match Saturday and, naturally, it was a wonderful day for shooting. Conditions were such there were no excuses for not performing. Yeah, guess what happened. The few rounds downrange the day before with the new bipod were not enough. The day was such I should have shot mid nineties. I failed all the way to last place and a miserable 84. Drat.

On the up side, the guy I smarted off to about beating with a 30.06 the weekend before made sure to point out he whooped me with a bullet that was half the weight and slower than the .06. I laughed, shook his hand and said, "I knew I was going to pay for that remark."

Anyway, I'm aware of where things are off, so, next Friday will be DA recording, writing elevations for the silhouette match and taking the rifle out to 200 yards on paper.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 17, 2024 07:22 PM (tT6L1)

51 47 8 "Don't want your firearm to end up like the Colt 1903 above?"

Appears the video says it is a 1913. One demerit. :-p
Posted by: Scuba_Dude
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Sure, Scoob. Sure. It says 1903.
Posted by: Weasel
You guys are great.

Model 1908 built in 1913.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 17, 2024 07:21 PM (dg271)

Is that the result of being recovered after a canoe accident?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 17, 2024 07:22 PM (VNX3d)

52 You work overtime for extra money, then you spend it like it was special.
Posted by: Eromero at November 17, 2024 07:20 PM (LHPAg)
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.38 Special?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 17, 2024 07:23 PM (llXky)

53 Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 17, 2024 07:22 PM (tT6L1)
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Excellent.

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 07:23 PM (fghTy)

54 Is that the result of being recovered after a canoe accident?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 17, 2024 07:22 PM (VNX3d)
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Happens to us all.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 17, 2024 07:23 PM (llXky)

55 Next week I'll take the 1911s out. It's my bedside pistol. You break into my domicile uninvited and you will be ventilated. My boys know never to just let themselves in without getting a response from me.
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 17, 2024 07:20 PM (zgRls)
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You really need to buy a KDS9c. In fact, you know you want to.....

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 17, 2024 07:24 PM (tT6L1)

56 Nurse- Desert is cool. Went for two long rides. One in the Desert on the KX500 and one on the Harley.

Posted by: DBCooper at November 17, 2024 07:25 PM (y1Mvi)

57 You work overtime for extra money, then you spend it like it was special.
Posted by: Eromero at November 17, 2024 07:20 PM (LHPAg)
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.38 Special?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 17, 2024 07:23 PM

No love for us?

Posted by: .41 & .44 Special at November 17, 2024 07:25 PM (a3Q+t)

58 46 Sure, Scoob. Sure. It says 1903.
Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 07:10 PM (fghTy)
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What is now known as the "vest pocket" is not to be confused with the "hammerless," which is considerably larger. I think there was also a forerunner to the 1911 released in 1903.

John Browning was on a roll!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 17, 2024 07:21 PM (llXky)
My first semiauto was a .380 Colt hammerless pocket pistol. $60, cash money out the door. In 1965.

Posted by: Eromero at November 17, 2024 07:25 PM (LHPAg)

59 Before this gets willowed down low in the comments ...

Any interest in setting up a Sunday afternoon shooting meet-up in Central Ohio? The range at my freedom store in Pataskala is very empty on Sundays, so we would not have a long wait.

I envision starting the Sunday after Thanksgiving and shooting every other week, due to some other commitments, but I'm willing to compromise for the good of the group.

If interested, kindly ping me at my email in bio. Thanks!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 17, 2024 07:26 PM (v23vE)

60 I forget who it was (Sharon?) who mentioned the Glock takedown tool that grips both sides of the slide stop when disassembling.
Anyway, I ordered one today from the Glock Store. Either birthday or Christmas for DILIT.
As far as DILIT is concerned, she and Jr. are in Hawaii right now. Jr. has something for her that will be a big hit at her family thanksgiving.

Posted by: RI Red at November 17, 2024 07:26 PM (wqLUo)

61 Seems appropriate. This looks like the mother or grandmother some of us would like:

https://youtu.be/NkiWMwMjlqg

Enjoy!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 17, 2024 07:27 PM (VNX3d)

62 My first semiauto was a .380 Colt hammerless pocket pistol. $60, cash money out the door. In 1965.
Posted by: Eromero at November 17, 2024 07:25 PM (LHPAg)
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A wise investment. Before it fell into a river, the Colt King Cobra I got in 1997 had similar price performance.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 17, 2024 07:27 PM (llXky)

63 Small group for today's meeting of the MGC. Just Blaster, SRA Blaster, Ed L and me. Range was pretty quiet so we had no trouble getting on lanes immediately. Wanted to again try the fancy 130 grain ammo in the Glocks as it seemed to perform better last time meaning no jams. So, of course, the more expensive ammo definitely worked better right after I just received an order of the stuff that used to work.
I shot mostly longer distances 7, 10,15 yds and was satidfied as long as I remembered to grip properly. Focused on that and it really helped when shooting Ed's P99.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 17, 2024 07:27 PM (t/2Uw)

64 As far as DILIT is concerned, she and Jr. are in Hawaii right now. Jr. has something for her that will be a big hit at her family thanksgiving.
Posted by: RI Red at November 17, 2024 07:26 PM (wqLUo)
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A Sig?

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 07:27 PM (fghTy)

65 Weasel, give Gertie a extra treat now, whilst FSJ is out discerning his backyard micturation location, and won't know.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 17, 2024 07:28 PM (a3Q+t)

66 So, for the gun encyclopedias out there, what are the differences between the 1908 and the 1911? It looks like the trigger to hammer mechanism is a little different? Maybe there's something different about the barrel and recoil spring.

I did notice the mag spring seemed to be in working order despite the adverse treatment.

Posted by: GWB at November 17, 2024 07:28 PM (M+Nrs)

67 No love for us?
Posted by: .41 & .44 Special at November 17, 2024 07:25 PM (a3Q+t)
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Too pricey. It's nuts that .44 Magnum is more expensive than .44 special, which is half the price of .32 magnum (grrr).

.32 H&R magnum is the ne plus ultra of self defense rounds, btw.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 17, 2024 07:29 PM (llXky)

68 One of the selling points for me with the Sinclair was the ability to use it with multiple rifles. As long as the rifle has a sling swivel stud, the Sinclair can be used with the rifle. I've more than one rifle I'm itching to try it out with.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 17, 2024 07:29 PM (tT6L1)

69 Weasel, give Gertie a extra treat now, whilst FSJ is out discerning his backyard micturation location, and won't know.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 17, 2024 07:28 PM (a3Q+t)
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She's a big fan of Ritz crackers! And just about everything else, treat-wise. She's a little bit of a fatso.

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 07:29 PM (fghTy)

70 The range at my freedom store in Pataskala is very empty on Sundays, so we would not have a long wait.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy

Alas! I am too far away now to get my sorry butt the BR. Loved that place though - good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 17, 2024 07:30 PM (WXNFJ)

71 Hello, Weasel! Range activity consisted of taking my H&K Mark 23 w/ its new B&T Mark 23 suppressor for a test drive with Blaster, SRA Blaster, and Sharon (williow's apprentice). This combination's reputation for accuracy is confirmed. SRA Blaster and myself shot 2" - 2.5" groups offhand at 15 yards. The B&T suppressor is very effective at cutting down the noise, even on an indoor range. Downsides are that the suppressor pushes a noticeable amount of gas into the user's face, the balance of this "crew served pistol" (it's as long as your arm from your elbow to your fingertips) is off, and the very THICC grips for the double stack .45 ACP magazine. Since Knight's Armament has stopped making the OEM suppressor issued to SOCOM, B&T is next best thing available right now. B&T made its Mark 23 suppressor for the Euro market, but began making some in the US after KAC ended production of its suppressor.

Posted by: Ed L at November 17, 2024 07:30 PM (AiJK3)

72 Ah, yes. The Glock takedown tool. I did get it and still had problems. Blaster thinks it's because it is really made for the larger models so is too wide for my narrow G48. He took it and my Glock to see if he could fabricate one.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 17, 2024 07:30 PM (t/2Uw)

73 60 As far as DILIT is concerned, she and Jr. are in Hawaii right now. Jr. has something for her that will be a big hit at her family thanksgiving.

Posted by: RI Red at November 17, 2024 07:26 PM

.45 or 9mm?

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 17, 2024 07:30 PM (0XVad)

74 As far as DILIT is concerned, she and Jr. are in Hawaii right now. Jr. has something for her that will be a big hit at her family thanksgiving.
Posted by: RI Red at November 17, 2024 07:26 PM (wqLUo)
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A Sig?
Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 07:27 PM (fghTy)

Closet to a Diamondback. Nome sane?

Posted by: RI Red at November 17, 2024 07:31 PM (wqLUo)

75 60 I forget who it was (Sharon?) who mentioned the Glock takedown tool that grips both sides of the slide stop when disassembling.
Anyway, I ordered one today from the Glock Store. Either birthday or Christmas for DILIT.
As far as DILIT is concerned, she and Jr. are in Hawaii right now. Jr. has something for her that will be a big hit at her family thanksgiving.
Posted by: RI Red at November 17, 2024 07:26 PM (wqLUo)

swa's Glock is a G48 which is narrower than most of the other Glocks so the tool does not work well on it. I could make it work, but it is easier for me to just pull the slide stop down with my fingers than it was with the tool, because I had to squeeze it in to fit and that was harder than just pulling it down. I am going to try it with a standard width Glock to see if it is easier to use.

But I am going to put my CAD 3d printing hat on to see if I can make one for the G48. There are stl files for a standard sized Glock but I haven't seen one for the G48/43.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 07:31 PM (QfvaV)

76 Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 17, 2024 07:11 PM (iZEhM)

There's no such thing as a failure, only a negative learning example.

Posted by: Ed L at November 17, 2024 07:31 PM (AiJK3)

77 Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 17, 2024 07:29 PM (tT6L1)
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Are you familiar with SEB rests?

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 07:31 PM (fghTy)

78 I don't know if I'll do badges for 2025, but if I do I'll have some other arrangement to hold it on to folks. There's no need to salve my ego (my day job is working on stuff that matters and those guys don't pull any of their punches when I screw up) I just ask that you not give me more than the usual level of crap associated with public screw ups.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 17, 2024 07:11 PM (iZEhM)

I for one appreciate you stepping up and volunteering to make badges in the first place, Cybersmythe! I found a way to make mine work eventually through trial and error, but a stronger magnet would not go amiss.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 17, 2024 07:33 PM (v23vE)

79 If interested, kindly ping me at my email in bio. Thanks!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 17, 2024 07:26 PM (v23vE)
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How far are you from Camp Perry? They have serious deals worth looking at through CMP. I picked up a Garand on June 6, and the lady filling out the certificate looked up as she was entering it. "Buying on the D-Day anniversary."

"It's my birthday present."

"Nice."

And thus I was admitted to the Cult of the Garand.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 17, 2024 07:33 PM (llXky)

80 59 Any interest in setting up a Sunday afternoon shooting meet-up in Central Ohio?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 17, 2024 07:26 PM

8 1/2 hours there, 8 1/2 hours back, about $65 or so in tolls?

Would love to, but will have to decline. ;-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 17, 2024 07:33 PM (0XVad)

81 I'd suggest screws for those who complained.
Posted by: Weasel

Nail gun!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar
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Nah - perfect opportunity to use the stapler!

Posted by: screaming in digital at November 17, 2024 07:34 PM (JIkaw)

82 Sharon, I gave her the G44 last year, so the full frame size should be right. Mucho thanks for the tip!

Posted by: RI Red at November 17, 2024 07:34 PM (wqLUo)

83 Are you familiar with SEB rests?
Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 07:31 PM (fghTy)
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Yep. I will be buying one once I got all in on a custom rifle. One of our guys uses one. Or, he built his own. He's quite the machinist. Machines his own muzzle brakes and blends them, for instance. Really a cool set up.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 17, 2024 07:34 PM (tT6L1)

84 Cybersmythe, re the badges, they were FREE. So I figure I can glue on a stronger magnet if I really want to.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 17, 2024 07:35 PM (KcwUg)

85 And thus I was admitted to the Cult of the Garand.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 17, 2024 07:33 PM

Isn't NZFrank 2nd or 3rd Vice President?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 17, 2024 07:35 PM (a3Q+t)

86 Re Ed L.'s Mk 23 - with the suppressor that pistol is about 18 inches in length. It wants to tip forward but still controllable.

Also the sound/recoil is very odd. Through the hearing pro at the range it sounded like a 40mm grenade launcher (M73 or 203) with a prononced "THOOP!"

Recoil was practically nil.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 07:35 PM (QfvaV)

87 Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 17, 2024 07:33 PM (llXky)
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Nice to see you AHL.. if you haven't already, check out the Garand Collectors Association or GCA.

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 07:35 PM (fghTy)

88 She also getting the 5 pack sleeve of CCI MiniMag.
Am I a hopeless romantic or what?

Posted by: RI Red at November 17, 2024 07:35 PM (wqLUo)

89 82 Sharon, I gave her the G44 last year, so the full frame size should be right. Mucho thanks for the tip!
Posted by: RI Red at November 17, 2024 07:34 PM (wqLUo)

G44 is the .22LR one correct? It is a narrow framee like the G48/43

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 07:36 PM (QfvaV)

90 By the way, Weasel what do you think of 6.5 x 284 Norma?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 17, 2024 07:37 PM (tT6L1)

91 Isn't NZFrank 2nd or 3rd Vice President?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 17, 2024 07:35 PM (a3Q+t)
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Deputy Assistant Grand Poobah.

Gotta say, there is something about them. Lock in the bloc, do the dakka, and PING. Repeat as necessary.

I'd been getting into military bolt-action rifles and the Garand absolutely dominates compared to them. Isn't even close. I mean you read it, and then you experience it.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 17, 2024 07:37 PM (llXky)

92 How far are you from Camp Perry? They have serious deals worth looking at through CMP. I picked up a Garand on June 6, and the lady filling out the certificate looked up as she was entering it. "Buying on the D-Day anniversary."

"It's my birthday present."

"Nice."

And thus I was admitted to the Cult of the Garand.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 17, 2024 07:33 PM (llXky)

Camp Perry is two hours and change from my place, AHL.

The only downside is that my friend Dale brought his .30-06 Garand-adjacent rifle to TXMoMe and let me shoot it. My shoulder is still feeling it. (Yes, I'm a weenie ...)_

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 17, 2024 07:37 PM (v23vE)

93 She also getting the 5 pack sleeve of CCI MiniMag.
Am I a hopeless romantic or what?
Posted by: RI Red at November 17, 2024 07:35 PM

No bottle of Hoppe's No. 9? Women love high-end perfume.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 17, 2024 07:38 PM (a3Q+t)

94 Are you familiar with SEB rests?
Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 07:31 PM (fghTy)
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Yep. I will be buying one once I got all in on a custom rifle. One of our guys uses one. Or, he built his own. He's quite the machinist. Machines his own muzzle brakes and blends them, for instance. Really a cool set up.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 17, 2024 07:34 PM (tT6L1)
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SEB (Sebastian) is a fine gentleman, a personal friend and an outstanding shooter. He was on my team at the 2017 Worlds. He's rests are THE standard.

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 07:38 PM (fghTy)

95 Nice to see you AHL.. if you haven't already, check out the Garand Collectors Association or GCA.
Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 07:35 PM (fghTy)
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Ok. Check yer email. I've been up to stuff.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 17, 2024 07:38 PM (llXky)

96 I need to restock on ammo - we shoot 250-300 rds of 9mm a month and then whatever else. Though I was pleased to find a can with 400 rounds of .308 in it I had forgotten about.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 07:39 PM (QfvaV)

97 Blaster, the G 44 in .22 is the same size frame as the 19. Great training aid.

Posted by: RI Red at November 17, 2024 07:39 PM (wqLUo)

98 Helpful tips for dealing with the liberals in your world once they're rounded up and in the Camps.

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Weasel's branching out with Tips for Better Living and Helicoptering

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 17, 2024 07:39 PM (RIvkX)

99 Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 17, 2024 07:37 PM (tT6L1)
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That was my long range cartridge but being over bore it goes through barrels fast.

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 07:39 PM (fghTy)

100 And thus I was admitted to the Cult of the Garand.

Frank in NZ weeps. Consider joining the Garand Collectors Association. Which reminds me that I need to renew my membership.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 17, 2024 07:39 PM (/y8xj)

101 Cybersmythe, re the badges, they were FREE. So I figure I can glue on a stronger magnet if I really want to.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 17, 2024 07:35 PM (KcwUg)

What about a binder clip, or something similar? I don't know the environment, so I'm not sure whether a lanyard would be suitable.

I'd worry about really strong magnets, if someone has electronics inside their body.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 17, 2024 07:40 PM (VNX3d)

102 Howdy!

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at November 17, 2024 07:40 PM (sAmhv)

103 The only downside is that my friend Dale brought his .30-06 Garand-adjacent rifle to TXMoMe and let me shoot it. My shoulder is still feeling it. (Yes, I'm a weenie ...)_
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 17, 2024 07:37 PM (v23vE)
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There is a very limited quantity of bolt action rifles available through the CMP. To get the best, you really have to go to the store. If you want something milder, they have the Navy Garands chambered in .308.

While supplies last.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 17, 2024 07:40 PM (llXky)

104 The shake awake function on the holosun sight I bought for the purple Glock is really great. You don;t have to do anything except case the gun and it goes to sleep and comes awake immediately when exposed to light. the green dot is nice and sharp too. No fiddling with covers or trying to remember which buttons to push to turn the vortex Viper off so the battery doesn;t run out. It is worth the extra expense.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 17, 2024 07:40 PM (t/2Uw)

105 tinyurl.com/4pr4n5hy
Posted by: Skip at November 17, 2024 07:03 PM (fwDg9)

And an update on the description says Jr says it's usually in a pocket holster. I'm happy he carries, and I hope he does even with the USSS protection.

Posted by: GWB at November 17, 2024 07:41 PM (M+Nrs)

106 Alas! I am too far away now to get my sorry butt the BR. Loved that place though - good people.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 17, 2024 07:30 PM (WXNFJ)

Also alas -- I organized it too late to loop you in! But maybe if you're up this way visiting some time...

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 17, 2024 07:42 PM (v23vE)

107 Dthrax, I was distracted by the Trump perfume ads. I was going to send some to my sisterhood of libs.
I totally forgot the allure of Hoppes!

Posted by: RI Red at November 17, 2024 07:42 PM (wqLUo)

108 Cybersmythe-are there 3D printers that will recognize a component placed on the build tray and then build around it?

Being able to place a metal object and then having it embedded in the printed part would be awesome.

Posted by: haffhowershower at November 17, 2024 07:43 PM (NMT5x)

109 I for one appreciate you stepping up and volunteering to make badges in the first place, Cybersmythe! I found a way to make mine work eventually through trial and error, but a stronger magnet would not go amiss.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 17, 2024 07:33 PM (v23vE
Ditto. Mrs. E just used a magnet from her other tag. Slice a pice off that magnet you use to retrieve stuff from the bottom of the pond.

Posted by: Eromero at November 17, 2024 07:43 PM (LHPAg)

110 I need to restock on ammo - we shoot 250-300 rds of 9mm a month and then whatever else. Though I was pleased to find a can with 400 rounds of .308 in it I had forgotten about.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 07:39 PM (QfvaV)
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I'm gonna say wait on that. Ammo prices are probably going to take a dive, guns as well. Prices surged from August but now I'm seeing all sorts of flash sales and discounts.

Steinel got me with a Veterans Day sale. I love their downloaded .45 ACP for shaved Webleys. It allows you to use the spider clips. Oddly, it feels different from the actual .455 ammo (which I modified clips to use).

Still, Steinel prices it like production .45, so it's much, much cheaper.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 17, 2024 07:43 PM (llXky)

111 Engineering hat on:

If it is supposed to move, but doesn't, WD-40.

If it isn't supposed to move and does, duct tape.

Clearly duct tape is the answer on the name tags.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 07:44 PM (QfvaV)

112
No bottle of Hoppe's No. 9? Women love high-end perfume.

Posted by: Duncanthrax
I took a mini cleaning kit to Texas and the Hoppes oozed out and even though in plastic, scented pretty much everything. My entire condo smelled like Hoppe's for quite awhile. It did not smell like perfume.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 17, 2024 07:45 PM (t/2Uw)

113 My first semiauto was a .380 Colt hammerless pocket pistol. $60, cash money out the door. In 1965.
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But your hourly pay was ¢25??

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 17, 2024 07:45 PM (hovnC)

114 80 59 Any interest in setting up a Sunday afternoon shooting meet-up in Central Ohio?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 17, 2024 07:26 PM

8 1/2 hours there, 8 1/2 hours back, about $65 or so in tolls?

Would love to, but will have to decline. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 17, 2024 07:33 PM (0XVad)

It's about 10 minutes closer to you than my place, Scoob, so factor that into your calculations.

Also, OT, but did you make it over to Holtermann's Bakery like, it seems, everyone else on Staten Island this week after Whoopi slandered them on-air?

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 17, 2024 07:45 PM (v23vE)

115 Hmmmm
Those are some good prices at Georgia Arms.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 17, 2024 07:45 PM (W/lyH)

116 That was my long range cartridge but being over bore it goes through barrels fast.
Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 07:39 PM (fghTy)
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I thought I remembered you said that was a cartridge you used.

I'm going to keep it in the back of my mind. I'm still doing some research and thinking. I plan to move off the 30.06 late next year, figuring by then I'll have taken it about as far as I can.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 17, 2024 07:46 PM (tT6L1)

117 If it isn't supposed to move and does, duct tape.

Clearly duct tape is the answer on the name tags.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 07:44 PM

EBG is the duct tape of duct tapes.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 17, 2024 07:46 PM (a3Q+t)

118 If it doesn’t move - paint it.
If it does move - salute it.

From Basic in the Dark Ages last century.

Posted by: RI Red at November 17, 2024 07:47 PM (wqLUo)

119 I thought I remembered you said that was a cartridge you used.

I'm going to keep it in the back of my mind. I'm still doing some research and thinking. I plan to move off the 30.06 late next year, figuring by then I'll have taken it about as far as I can.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 17, 2024 07:46 PM (tT6L1)
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I'd get right around 800 rounds from a match barrel. That is one seriously flat shooting cartridge though!

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 07:47 PM (fghTy)

120 If you want something milder, they have the Navy Garands chambered in .308.

IIRC, they recommend that the Navy rifles be considered a collectors' items, not shooters. I think you can still get an "Expert" grade M1 in .308 with a new commercial barrel and wood.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 17, 2024 07:48 PM (/y8xj)

121 Bereli's has great prices and free shipping no matter the quantity.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 17, 2024 07:48 PM (t/2Uw)

122 On Topic:

Breaking911 @Breaking911 Nov 13
Ladies & gentlemen, your next Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard

https://tinyurl.com/yc37s27h
38 seconds; firing drills

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 17, 2024 07:48 PM (hovnC)

123 I'd get right around 800 rounds from a match barrel. That is one seriously flat shooting cartridge though!
Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 07:47 PM (fghTy)
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So what if I'm buying barrels by the pallet. No big deal, right?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 17, 2024 07:48 PM (tT6L1)

124 Nail gun!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NEXT Year In Corsicana - again! ~ at November 17, 2024 07:15 PM

Hot tip galvanized?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 17, 2024 07:19 PM (0XVad)

Naturally. You don't want them rusting because of bodily fluids.

Posted by: GWB at November 17, 2024 07:48 PM (M+Nrs)

125 Posted by: Diogenes at November 17, 2024 07:45 PM (W/lyH)
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Yep! Buy ammo!

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 07:49 PM (fghTy)

126 My Sig Sauer Mosquito .22 LR has too many instances when the case doesn't clear the ejection port. Any ideas to improve the reliability.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 17, 2024 07:49 PM (KJ3hR)

127 Scoobs, did you ever triage your rifle?
Or are you just going to sell it to me cheap?

Posted by: RI Red at November 17, 2024 07:49 PM (wqLUo)

128 Clearly duct tape is the answer on the name tags.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 07:44 PM (QfvaV)
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"Hand me my staple gun. This name tag is loose."

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 17, 2024 07:49 PM (llXky)

129 So what if I'm buying barrels by the pallet. No big deal, right?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 17, 2024 07:48 PM (tT6L1)
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Adding the complexity of barrel life management to an already complicated endeavor!

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 07:50 PM (fghTy)

130 Same thing with my range bag and Hoppes. The whole den smells great.

Posted by: Eromero at November 17, 2024 07:51 PM (LHPAg)

131 My Sig Sauer Mosquito .22 LR has too many instances when the case doesn't clear the ejection port. Any ideas to improve the reliability.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 17, 2024 07:49 PM (KJ3hR)
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I had one of those (no, really). If cleaning and lubrication don't produce improvement, try different ammo. I've noticed .22 LR has some wide variations. Some guns just hate certain varieties of it.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 17, 2024 07:51 PM (llXky)

132 Adding the complexity of barrel life management to an already complicated endeavor!
Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 07:50 PM

Couldn't you outsource Barrel management to Ace? He seems to do a pretty good job.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 17, 2024 07:52 PM (a3Q+t)

133 FYI for those of you who saw me limping around in Texas. Ben Had told to to check out the Good Feet store. I finally did. They are not cheap and it has only been a short while but I seem to be making progress.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 17, 2024 07:53 PM (t/2Uw)

134 Couldn't you outsource Barrel management to Ace? He seems to do a pretty good job.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 17, 2024 07:52 PM (a3Q+t)
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If only it were that easy!

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 07:54 PM (fghTy)

135 114 Also, OT, but did you make it over to Holtermann's Bakery like, it seems, everyone else on Staten Island this week after Whoopi slandered them on-air?

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 17, 2024 07:45 PM

I have never been inside but I do go by it every time I go to one of my brother's in New Jersey.
She probably slandered them because President Trump has won Staten Island in every election.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 17, 2024 07:54 PM (0XVad)

136 Same thing with my range bag and Hoppes. The whole den smells great.
Posted by: Eromero at November 17, 2024 07:51 PM

You see, ladies? The best sort of men are attracted to Hoppes No. 9.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 17, 2024 07:54 PM (a3Q+t)

137 Cybersmythe-are there 3D printers that will recognize a component placed on the build tray and then build around it?

Being able to place a metal object and then having it embedded in the printed part would be awesome.
Posted by: haffhowershower at November 17, 2024 07:43 PM

No. In general, obstacle detection in robotics (which is what you're talking about) is an extremely hard problem. The badges in question were actually printed around magnets, but that's done by making the design with voids and then telling the slicer to stop at the top of the void so you can put the magnet in, and then you tell it to go on with the rest of it.

The big problem was that there's roughly half a millimeter between the neodymium magnets I used and the end of the material and then another half millimeter between the washers in the backs and the end of the plastic.

The whole technique was excessively fiddly which is the real reason I won't do it that way again. You can, however, use similar techniques to reinforce printed parts. I've been thinking about how to make improvements to 3d printed pistols, and that's part of the approach.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 17, 2024 07:55 PM (iZEhM)

138 Adding the complexity of barrel life management to an already complicated endeavor!
Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 07:50 PM (fghTy)
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Eh, barrel life is finite, no matter what. I'll probably get close to 2K rounds out of the 06 before the groups blow up to 1MOA. (yeah, if the rounds aren't touching @ 100 yards, I'm failing. I've got the accuracy bug, bad. I may need an intervention)

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 17, 2024 07:55 PM (tT6L1)

139 IIRC, they recommend that the Navy rifles be considered a collectors' items, not shooters. I think you can still get an "Expert" grade M1 in .308 with a new commercial barrel and wood.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 17, 2024 07:48 PM (/y8xj)
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There are two versions, one that is not considered safe to shoot, and the later variant where they upgrade it and they are fine to shoot.

Very important to read the description to see which one you are looking at. The Camp Perry store had some really nice ones that were good go to.

One very important thing to do: READ THE TAG. Rifles do migrate from the wrong rack.

The one I got was rack grade, partially rebuilt with Beretta parts, but is very slick. Everyone in the store agreed I had found the pick of the litter. My daughter (who came with my) still was pining for an M1917.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 17, 2024 07:55 PM (llXky)

140 My 22 definitely liked the copper better than the lead nose and there was only a small difference in price but 22 is so much cheaper than 9 that I didn;t care.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 17, 2024 07:57 PM (t/2Uw)

141 I'd suggest screws for those who complained.
Posted by: Weasel

Nail gun!
************
Nah, Weasel has the stapler gun....problem solved.

Seriously Cybersmythe, I truly appreciate your offer to make the name tags and all the effort and materials that went into making them. We are morons, we'll find a way to make them work!

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at November 17, 2024 07:57 PM (IQ6Gq)

142 Same thing with my range bag and Hoppes. The whole den smells great.
Posted by: Eromero at November 17, 2024 07:51 PM (LHPAg)
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A friend got me into Ballistol. It's pretty impressive stuff. My wife hates the smell, so I stick with Break Free CLP, but when the weather is warm, I open the windows and let Ballistol do its thing. It's really good with wood. Use it on the barrel and rub it into the stock. Crazy good improvement.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 17, 2024 07:58 PM (llXky)

143 127 Scoobs, did you ever triage your rifle?
Or are you just going to sell it to me cheap?

Posted by: RI Red at November 17, 2024 07:49 PM

No, have not looked yet. I do not think it is the rifle. It is either the scope or most likely the shooter. Leaning towards the latter.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 17, 2024 07:59 PM (0XVad)

144 “ My Sig Sauer Mosquito .22 LR has too many instances when the case doesn't clear the ejection port. Any ideas to improve the reliability.”

That model is blowback operated. Above all else you need to clean and lube the shit out of it. Get yourself some Slip 2000 EWL. Also use good ammo like CCI Stingers or even the “Stangers” which produce a higher muzzle velocity. That little extra will make it more reliable. YMMV

Posted by: Marcus T at November 17, 2024 07:59 PM (WT51m)

145 Weasel, do you think the added performance of heavier 5.56mm ammo (i.e. greater than the 62 grain "green tip" GI standard) at 300 yards and greater justify its additional cost for non-expert shooters in the AR-15 platform? I keep reading articles that say heavier bullets deliver more accuracy than green tip ammo because they resist wind drift better over distance. But given my difficulty in accessing ranges w/ the longer range required to shoot for distance and low skill level at using the optics required to reach out that far w/ 5.56mm, am I better off just using cheaper 55 grain ammo until I address range access and skill w/ optics first? I don't want to adjust my zero on an indoor range only to find out later that I goofed it up at one of the rare opportunities I get to shoot outdoors.

Posted by: Ed L at November 17, 2024 08:00 PM (AiJK3)

146 A friend got me into Ballistol. It's pretty impressive stuff. My wife hates the smell, so I stick with Break Free CLP, but when the weather is warm, I open the windows and let Ballistol do its thing. It's really good with wood. Use it on the barrel and rub it into the stock. Crazy good improvement.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 17, 2024 07:58 PM

You know there's a Cult of Ballistol as well, correct?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 17, 2024 08:00 PM (a3Q+t)

147 My 22 definitely liked the copper better than the lead nose and there was only a small difference in price but 22 is so much cheaper than 9 that I didn;t care.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 17, 2024 07:57 PM (t/2Uw)
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CCI Blazer seems to be solid and universally accepted. If one gets into some of the other brands, it's hit or miss.

Years ago I had a Charter Arms .44 Bulldog of the original vintage. Picked it up for a song, and then learned that only ammo it liked was Magtech Cowboy Loads. Whether it was time, wear or what, the bases of other .44 special cartridges quickly jammed it, which is weird in a revolver. The Magtech ran just fine, though.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 17, 2024 08:02 PM (llXky)

148 Hullo morons!
Guns!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at November 17, 2024 08:02 PM (xcxpd)

149 Does Weasel have a weaselpromotion with Georgia Arms?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 17, 2024 08:03 PM (bss/y)

150 You know there's a Cult of Ballistol as well, correct?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 17, 2024 08:00 PM (a3Q+t)
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Yes, they keep texting me, but I'm just not that into them.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 17, 2024 08:03 PM (llXky)

151 Howdy, y'all. Seen that post over at Insty where he discusses the police qualification drills using paper targets and stopwatches?

It's all low-count ammo. The first one described uses the standard torso-plus-heat target, ten shots taken in total, first two within 1.5 seconds at ten feet, second two within 2 seconds at 20 feet, etc., etc. Ten is inner, second rim out is 9, you gotta score a min of 80 with your ten rounds.

One later pan in he sequence involves two rounds then a mag change and two more, this inside 6 seconds.

Sounds like a fun challenge. In Bakersfield, CA, every patrolman has to score a min of 80 once monthly using duty gear, no warmups.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 17, 2024 08:03 PM (ZtgZZ)

152 Scoobs, I’m leaning toward scope. I’ve seen you shoot 1k.

Posted by: RI Red at November 17, 2024 08:04 PM (wqLUo)

153 Thank you Cybersmythe!

A little superglue and one of these pins and we're all set. Nothing fiddly in the printing. No magnets.
https://tinyurl.com/2dpnnrjp

If you decide to do again, I'll be happy to get the pins and bring the glue.

Posted by: TRex at November 17, 2024 08:04 PM (IQ6Gq)

154 I just used the Glock takedown tool - this url should be short enough:

https://www.glockstore.com/Slide-Removal-Tool

On a PSA dagger which is pretty much a G19 clone - IOW its standard Glock width. The take down tool works excellently. You don't even have to do the weird grip to partially pull the slide back thing - you just pull or push down while squeezing and the slide will come right off.

It needs a narrower version to work on the G48/43. I can probably do that I just need some time. Though I only have PLA and PLA+ filament and it would be better with a more flexible material.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 08:05 PM (QfvaV)

155 Got to get to the range finally. With vacations and chest colds, I missed the last few Saturdays. So it very good to put some holes in paper yesterday.

I tested my Taurus G3c TORO with 147 JHP rounds. This was the pistol and ammo I took with me to Florida. I didn't really need it but, that's also true of my first aid kit. I took that too. Anyway, for a ~$200 pistol that G3c really performs well. Fed the JHP rounds no problem sufficiently accurate and the grip texture makes it good for double taps. Now I just need to add a red dot to it. Because I'm old. May also look into an IWB holster for it too. Normally it's my winter pocket carry.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at November 17, 2024 08:06 PM (xcxpd)

156 Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 17, 2024 07:55 PM (tT6L1)

I've heard that the MILSPEC for M-16/M-4 barrels is 4 MOA. So you're a much tougher case when it comes to accuracy than the US Army is.

Posted by: Ed L at November 17, 2024 08:06 PM (AiJK3)

157 9mm street price now at about 25 cents per for range-grade.

Boom boom boom! Thanks, fellow Trump voters!

Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 17, 2024 08:07 PM (ZtgZZ)

158 You know there's a Cult of Ballistol as well, correct?

It's cults all the way down.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 17, 2024 08:07 PM (/y8xj)

159 Good evening Weasel and fellow gub aficionados...no range report this week as we were busy touring NC, SC and Savannah (I'm not recognizing GA this week)...did visit the famous PSA while touring...and also have a question.
We were told SC has constitutional carry. Does that only apply to those living in SC, or also extend to those visiting (who still are patiently waiting for their VA CC permit to be delivered)....

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at November 17, 2024 08:07 PM (IQ6Gq)

160 I am going to buy a couple of BCA Grizzly 9mm G-17 clones.

Also ICYMI 12 days after the election the donkey counties are still manufacturing votes.

Posted by: sven at November 17, 2024 08:08 PM (X0I7i)

161 If you want a slick .22 LR autoloader, the Beretta Cheetah is the ne plus ultra. Back in the days when Hogmartin still dwelt in the Mitten, we did a mini MiMoMe and it was the belle of the ball. Ask Eris what she thought of it.

I'm very fond of Berettas, and this is really nice. Accurate, zero recoil, wonderful. My daughters adore it, but because its rimfire, I can't be comfortable with it for self defense.

A better (and insanely cheaper) option is a .32 S&W Long revolver, which are accurate, simple, reliable and a joy to shoot.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 17, 2024 08:08 PM (llXky)

162 You know there's a Cult of Ballistol as well, correct?

It's cults all the way down.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 17, 2024 08:07 PM (/y8xj)

Be careful of dangerous cults. Practice safe sects.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 17, 2024 08:08 PM (VNX3d)

163 It's been around 6-800 rounds since I Iast cleaned the PPQ. It wasn't really that dirty. It's comforting to take care of an item that may someday take care of me.

Carry all the time on the weekends. Still not at the point where I'm willing to risk employment for bringing a weapon on campus.

We will see what happens in January.

Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 17, 2024 08:08 PM (KIR+o)

164 146 A friend got me into Ballistol. It's pretty impressive stuff. My wife hates the smell, so I stick with Break Free CLP, but when the weather is warm, I open the windows and let Ballistol do its thing. It's really good with wood. Use it on the barrel and rub it into the stock. Crazy good improvement.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 17, 2024 07:58 PM

You know there's a Cult of Ballistol as well, correct?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 17, 2024 08:00 PM (a3Q+t)

I blame Othias. He got me using the stuff too. Makes a good household lubricant for hinges and window slides too.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at November 17, 2024 08:08 PM (xcxpd)

165 Years ago I had a Charter Arms .44 Bulldog of the original vintage. Picked it up for a song, and then learned that only ammo it liked was Magtech Cowboy Loads. Whether it was time, wear or what, the bases of other .44 special cartridges quickly jammed it, which is weird in a revolver. The Magtech ran just fine, though.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 17, 2024 08:02 PM (llXky)
I'd love to pick up a good .44 Bulldog by CA. I used to handload one at at time for mine and it was my carry gun for awhile. Ended up trading it off on some other gun. Yeh I know.

Posted by: Eromero at November 17, 2024 08:08 PM (LHPAg)

166 We are now halfway to the Food Thread's 322 comments...

...don't get cocky.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 17, 2024 08:08 PM (v23vE)

167 Carry permit renewal a week from today - will take the Beretta for the live fire portion - haven't shot it enough this past year and a half. Easy course of fire, but will at least be rounds through it.

Posted by: MD_Mike at November 17, 2024 08:10 PM (BouEL)

168 ...don't get cocky.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 17, 2024 08:08 PM

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Winston Wolfe at November 17, 2024 08:10 PM (a3Q+t)

169 157 9mm street price now at about 25 cents per for range-grade.

Boom boom boom! Thanks, fellow Trump voters!
Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 17, 2024 08:07 PM (ZtgZZ)

looks at 9mm FMJ ammo for which he paid $0.95/round during the 2021 panic...

...sobs uncontrollably...

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 17, 2024 08:11 PM (v23vE)

170 Going back a few weeks, I went up to the Sultan Basin with Lazy Messenger. The DNR cops were there telling everyone 'you can't shoot there' in all the places we used to shoot. Only the quarry was 'safe' to shoot at. Not amused.

But I did get to do some drills. I also had my M1 Carbine, which I love for it's size, weight and handiness. Unfortunately, I had lots of failures to extract. I had to drop the mag, then cycle the action again to 'catch' and eject a round. So it has been permanently demoted from home defense duties. I need to take it to a gunsmith to see if it can be fixed, once money isn't so tight.

New project: build an AR-15 that is as light as an M1 Carbine. And try to do it for under a grand.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at November 17, 2024 08:11 PM (xcxpd)

171 We were told SC has constitutional carry. Does that only apply to those living in SC, or also extend to those visiting (who still are patiently waiting for their VA CC permit to be delivered)....
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at November 17, 2024 08:07 PM (IQ6Gq)

The law says ANYONE who is not prohibited - it does not say SC citizens only.

But I am not a lawyer....

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 08:12 PM (QfvaV)

172 149 Does Weasel have a weaselpromotion with Georgia Arms?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 17, 2024 08:03 PM (bss/y)
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Nah, just passing along a good deal.

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 08:12 PM (fghTy)

173 160 I am going to buy a couple of BCA Grizzly 9mm G-17 clones.
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With the Gold Titanium Nitride (TiN) Threaded Barrel, sven??

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 17, 2024 08:13 PM (hovnC)

174 Well, time to wander.

Thanks again, weasel!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 17, 2024 08:13 PM (tT6L1)

175 Damn, late to the Gub!

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 17, 2024 08:14 PM (mH6SG)

176 Years ago I had a Charter Arms .44 Bulldog of the original vintage. Picked it up for a song, and then learned that only ammo it liked was Magtech Cowboy Loads. Whether it was time, wear or what, the bases of other .44 special cartridges quickly jammed it, which is weird in a revolver. The Magtech ran just fine, though.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 17, 2024 08:02 PM

Sometimes the length of ammo is an issue. I have a Marlin 1894 in .45 colt and it refuses to cycle S&B .45 colt ammo. It eats every other kind of ammo out there without any issues but it refuses to cycle the S&B .45 colt, jams it right up every time.

I miked out some of the rounds and the S&B was about 2/1000th of an inch longer than the other factory ammo I have. Still in specs but right at the edge of maximum cartridge length.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 17, 2024 08:14 PM (QNSds)

177 I've heard that the MILSPEC for M-16/M-4 barrels is 4 MOA. So you're a much tougher case when it comes to accuracy than the US Army is.
Posted by: Ed L at November 17, 2024 08:06 PM (AiJK3)

Ed, I’d heard that it was 2 MOA for the rifle and 2 MOA for the shooter.
Either way, it’s Private Snuffy accuracy.

Posted by: RI Red at November 17, 2024 08:14 PM (wqLUo)

178 I've heard that the MILSPEC for M-16/M-4 barrels is 4 MOA. So you're a much tougher case when it comes to accuracy than the US Army is.
Posted by: Ed L at November 17, 2024 08:06 PM (AiJK3)
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Well, I may have to join Accuracy Anonymous. We'll see.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 17, 2024 08:14 PM (tT6L1)

179 If you decide to do again, I'll be happy to get the pins and bring the glue.
Posted by: TRex at November 17, 2024 08:04 PM

That's the sort of thing I was looking at. Self-adhesive attachment thingies either with pins or magnets.

I don't want to tease this because the work would have to be done six months from now and who knows how my interests will shift in those months. I mean, between now and the next TX MoMe I'm supposed to getting married and buying a house nearer to work and starting to go to the range regularly, but I have been thinking of a cool tag design to commemorate it being the 10th TX MoMe.

Check with me next August and see if I've done anything about it.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 17, 2024 08:14 PM (iZEhM)

180 Posted by: Ed L at November 17, 2024 08:00 PM (AiJK3)
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There is no doubt something like a 77gr bullet will outperform a 55 gr at longer distances, but for general shooting up the neighborhood work, just use the 55gr stuff. That's what I do.

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 08:16 PM (fghTy)

181 Carry all the time on the weekends. Still not at the point where I'm willing to risk employment for bringing a weapon on campus.

We will see what happens in January.
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 17, 2024 08:08 PM (KIR+o)
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The PPQ was my "uniform carry" weapon when I was in the Guard. After the Knoxville shooting, Michigan authorized Guard members with permits to carry concealed in uniform. The PPQ was my choice and I loved it.

An excellent choice.

However, it also is harder to conceal in a non-uniform environment. I humbly suggest checking out the Charter Arms Undercoverette, in .32 Magnum. This is basically a J-frame .38, but it has two subtle differences. The first is that being in .32, you get six rounds instead of five, which is nice.

The other is that .32 Magnum gives you exceptional performance (exceeding .38 special) with much less felt recoil. I tested this two weeks ago, and it's crazy how light the .32 magnum round are, yet they pack a heavy punch.

The only downside is that .32 mag is pricey, though as with .38/.357 you can use .32 Long as practice ammo and save money.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 17, 2024 08:16 PM (llXky)

182 New project: build an AR-15 that is as light as an M1 Carbine. And try to do it for under a grand.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at November 17, 2024 08:11 PM (xcxpd)

That ought to be easy. Unless you're going to put a fancy scope or some kind of thermal on it. You can still build a stock one for about $4-500 if you grab one of the "blemished" lowers so often for sale.

Posted by: GWB at November 17, 2024 08:17 PM (M+Nrs)

183 171 We were told SC has constitutional carry. Does that only apply to those living in SC, or also extend to those visiting (who still are patiently waiting for their VA CC permit to be delivered)....
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at November 17, 2024 08:07 PM (IQ6Gq)

The law says ANYONE who is not prohibited - it does not say SC citizens only.

But I am not a lawyer....
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 08:12 PM (QfvaV
In Texas, we have reciprocity which means if your state recognizes our carry law, we recognize yours. But there is a way around Constitutional Carry, it's a sign. I am licensed 3 different ways and I obey the sign. Maybe we will change that silly nonsense over the next few years.

Posted by: Eromero at November 17, 2024 08:18 PM (LHPAg)

184 but for general shooting up the neighborhood work, just use the 55gr stuff. That's what I do.
Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 08:16 PM (fghTy)
LOL!

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 08:20 PM (QfvaV)

185 In Texas, we have reciprocity which means if your state recognizes our carry law, we recognize yours. But there is a way around Constitutional Carry, it's a sign. I am licensed 3 different ways and I obey the sign. Maybe we will change that silly nonsense over the next few years.
Posted by: Eromero at November 17, 2024 08:18 PM (LHPAg)

SC has the sign thing, too. City of Charleston is all about their signage. They have their own ordinance about it.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 08:21 PM (QfvaV)

186 >>It's been around 6-800 rounds since I Iast cleaned the PPQ. It wasn't really that dirty. It's comforting to take care of an item that may someday take care of me.

I fortuitously picked up a PPQ recently. (Long story - a client couldn't pay with cash). Nurse, (or anybody with personal knowledge) what's your favorite thing about the PPQ?

Posted by: Frasier Crane at November 17, 2024 08:22 PM (9IWfl)

187 looks at 9mm FMJ ammo for which he paid $0.95/round during the 2021 panic...
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Wow.

¢26 to ¢39 per round currently at one place I've used here before for Bulk 1,000 purchases [translated in US $ for your convenience].

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 17, 2024 08:22 PM (hovnC)

188 “ 5.56mm ammo (i.e. greater than the 62 grain "green tip" GI standard) at 300 yards and greater justify its additional cost for non-expert shooters in the AR-15 platform?”

M855 or M855a1 typically start to drift a lot at ~365 meters and beyond. If your objective is to put rounds on target at distance then you want something heavier like the 77’s or a good compromise is the 69gr SMK. The problem is it starts to get spendy compared to the mM855, which is a good round at those shorter distances. But it was ultimately made for the improvement in barrier, body armor and LAV penetration.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 17, 2024 08:22 PM (WT51m)

189 Unless I'm going somewhere with a magnetometer like an airport or courthouse where they mean business, I just ignore signs. I take steps to not make it obvious I'm carrying, but I really don't care if the Mall, for example, has a rule. Just my .02

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 08:23 PM (fghTy)

190 I see .32 mentioned again and again. It's just making me want that Beretta Tomcat even more. Now maybe y'all can talk enough about money some extra shows up in my account.

Posted by: GWB at November 17, 2024 08:23 PM (M+Nrs)

191 The first rule of Cult of Ballistol is that you must not have a keen sense of smell. Can't stand the smell, myself.

My cleaning ritual has degenerated. Ahem, I mean to say, optimized. There I was, using nice patches and specialized versions of Q-tips. Then I watched a video of Bill Wilson and, I think, Ken Hackathorn, cleaning with paper towels in most spots, and only using cleaner and brushes in a couple of key spots.

I'm not quite to that point, but it's mostly paper towels now, with the M-Pro7 and brushing ritual reserved for the slide rails and the chamber and a few other places that show wear.

Posted by: Splunge at November 17, 2024 08:24 PM (hmKaK)

192 Weasel, do we have ... visitors?

Posted by: GWB at November 17, 2024 08:24 PM (M+Nrs)

193 I once owned a Ruger SP101 in .327 Fed Mag. Loved that little wheelgun.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 17, 2024 08:25 PM (mH6SG)

194 but for general shooting up the neighborhood work, just use the 55gr stuff. That's what I do.
Posted by: Weasel
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Just remember, "Klaatu barada nikto"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 17, 2024 08:26 PM (XeU6L)

195 Today I drew and fired from a holster for the very first time. Mostly it taught me that I have a lot of work to do on a few things, starting with getting my grip right as I do that. The webbing between my thumb and forefinger is sore...I guess my form isn't quite getting me my usual grip, consistently.

A happy day at the range, to be followed by a major dentist appointment tomorrow, which I am NOT looking forward to.

Posted by: Splunge at November 17, 2024 08:26 PM (hmKaK)

196 SC has the sign thing, too. City of Charleston is all about their signage. They have their own ordinance about it.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 08:21 PM (QfvaV)
Brother, back in the 70s I ran that coast like a big dog and was always armed. You get stopped, they ask is that your gun? Yes sir. Ok. You were speeding, slow it down.

Posted by: Eromero at November 17, 2024 08:26 PM (LHPAg)

197 “ but for general shooting up the neighborhood work, just use the 55gr stuff. That's what I do.
Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 08:16 PM (fghTy)”

I just spit my espresso. Where the hell do you live- Mogadishu? lol.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 17, 2024 08:27 PM (WT51m)

198 New project: build an AR-15 that is as light as an M1 Carbine. And try to do it for under a grand.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at November 17, 2024 08:11 PM (xcxpd)

Palmetto State Armory has an M16A2 clone on sale today for $579.99. It's a bit heavier than your goal, but that's a good price to me. They also have their H&R clones of the XM177E2/CAR-15 ($1,199.99) and Colt 723 carbines ($1,099.99), which weigh in at 6 pounds. I think that's just a bit heavier than an M1 carbine.

Posted by: Ed L at November 17, 2024 08:27 PM (AiJK3)

199 “ but for general shooting up the neighborhood work, just use the 55gr stuff. That's what I do.
Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 08:16 PM (fghTy)”

I just spit my espresso. Where the hell do you live- Mogadishu? lol.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 17, 2024 08:27 PM (WT51m)

In that environment, you use home made artillery shooting propane tanks.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 17, 2024 08:28 PM (VNX3d)

200 Speaking of guns, sort of, I saw RFK jr doing a work out. A buff 70 year old certainly makes a lot more sense then Adm Puff n' Stuff in a Service Skirt.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 17, 2024 08:28 PM (oZhjI)

201 Posted by: Splunge at November 17, 2024 08:26 PM (hmKaK)
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It's very good practice. Just start slowly and work up to speed over time.

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 08:28 PM (fghTy)

202 New project: build an AR-15 that is as light as an M1 Carbine. And try to do it for under a grand.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at November 17, 2024 08:11 PM (xcxpd)

The internet says that the M1 Carbine weighs 5.2 lbs and an M4 at 7.5lbs (that's with a loaded mag I don't think the M1 weight is with loaded mag).

So you are looking at cutting a couple of pounds off an M4 - probably a polymer lower and a classic upper flattop with a polymer rear sight would get you there.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 08:28 PM (QfvaV)

203 Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 08:16 PM (fghTy)

Thanks, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at November 17, 2024 08:28 PM (AiJK3)

204 New project: build an AR-15 that is as light as an M1 Carbine. And try to do it for under a grand.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at November 17, 2024 08:11 PM (xcxpd)

The internet says that the M1 Carbine weighs 5.2 lbs and an M4 at 7.5lbs (that's with a loaded mag I don't think the M1 weight is with loaded mag).

So you are looking at cutting a couple of pounds off an M4 - probably a polymer lower and a classic upper flattop with a polymer rear sight would get you there.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 08:28 PM (QfvaV)

My goal is 5 pound AR. Looking at a KE Arms polymer lower, then...whatever upper I can find that is light without breaking my 1k goal.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at November 17, 2024 08:29 PM (xcxpd)

205 201 It's very good practice. Just start slowly and work up to speed over time.
Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 08:28 PM (fghTy)

Good advice. I plan to have no ambitions about speed for a very long time. Heck, I wasn't even willing to try drawing and firing from a holster until I was absolutely positive that my hands instinctively understood how and when to work the safety during the whole cycle.

Posted by: Splunge at November 17, 2024 08:31 PM (hmKaK)

206 New project: build an AR-15 that is as light as an M1 Carbine. And try to do it for under a grand.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at November 17, 2024 08:11 PM (xcxpd)

Palmetto State Armory has an M16A2 clone on sale today for $579.99. It's a bit heavier than your goal, but that's a good price to me. They also have their H&R clones of the XM177E2/CAR-15 ($1,199.99) and Colt 723 carbines ($1,099.99), which weigh in at 6 pounds. I think that's just a bit heavier than an M1 carbine.

Posted by: Ed L at November 17, 2024 08:27 PM (AiJK3)

Thankee. I like PSA (though I'm aware of their durability problems). I have several of their lowers and uppers. We'll see what they have when it's buying time. I'm sorta leaning towards Faxon, if I can find a light upper in my price range.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at November 17, 2024 08:32 PM (xcxpd)

207 When I took the HQL in MD, I also got the Utah license which allows CC in I think 32 states. Just not in MD, DC, Del and a number of places where it would be really helpful. It was a very inexpensive add on requiring just a few more hours than the HQL(handgun qualification license). You might check that out, Grateful.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 17, 2024 08:33 PM (t/2Uw)

208 My goal is 5 pound AR. Looking at a KE Arms polymer lower, then...whatever upper I can find that is light without breaking my 1k goal.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at November 17, 2024 08:29 PM (xcxpd)

This upper I expect is about the lightest option you could get - PSA

https://tinyurl.com/2t4y2z6f

You start adding more rail or MLOK stuff and it's going to get heavier.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 08:33 PM (QfvaV)

209 139 "The one I got was rack grade, partially rebuilt with Beretta parts, but is very slick. Everyone in the store agreed I had found the pick of the litter. My daughter (who came with my) still was pining for an M1917"

I own four M1917s and I intend to sell or trade two of them next spring.

Posted by: Bond in Michigan at November 17, 2024 08:33 PM (JLgPI)

210 Posted by: Splunge at November 17, 2024 08:31 PM (hmKaK)
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Excellent. Approach any new drill with a healthy dose of caution until you get used to it and begin to develop some muscle memory. Good job.

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 08:34 PM (fghTy)

211 Youo don't have to live or go to Utah to get it.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 17, 2024 08:34 PM (t/2Uw)

212 I fortuitously picked up a PPQ recently. (Long story - a client couldn't pay with cash). Nurse, (or anybody with personal knowledge) what's your favorite thing about the PPQ?
Posted by: Frasier Crane at November 17, 2024 08:22 PM (9IWfl)

The PPQ shoots like magic. Great trigger and ergonomics. It's lightweight (pro and con). It does not like cheap or steel cased ammo (Russian). Had catastrophic jams with mine with cheap ammo. Worked fine with normal factory loads.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at November 17, 2024 08:34 PM (xcxpd)

213 The happiest words of mouth or pen are, "Thanks, Weasel, our best friend."

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 17, 2024 08:36 PM (hovnC)

214 MAE, before replacing your m1 carbine, switch magazines and replace springs. Saco used to have a complete spring kit for less than 20 bucks that were original gi issue.

Mags for the carbine were viewed as throwaways and that tradition still lives on in aftermarket ones. Most carbines work fine with the original 15 rounds mags design, hit and miss with 30 round banana mags. Can be picky with ammo too.

Not feeling well tonight, doc appt tomorrow. So hi y'all and goodnight y'all.

Posted by: whig's phone at November 17, 2024 08:36 PM (ctrM5)

215 thanks folks, wife is calling, have to jet.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at November 17, 2024 08:37 PM (xcxpd)

216 An Omni polymer lower might save more weight - you can use a minimalist stock.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 08:37 PM (QfvaV)

217 187 looks at 9mm FMJ ammo for which he paid $0.95/round during the 2021 panic...
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Wow.

¢26 to ¢39 per round currently at one place I've used here before for Bulk 1,000 purchases [translated in US $ for your convenience].
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 17, 2024 08:22 PM (hovnC)

This was post-COVID and after the US 2020 Most Secure Election In The History Of Ever™, when the party in power started making noises about banning Internet ammo sales and other restrictionist regulation. I took to heart the guidance I found on Sunday nights on a certain smart military blog® that suggested buying ammo, and I grabbed whatever I could find online.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 17, 2024 08:38 PM (v23vE)

218 I fortuitously picked up a PPQ recently. (Long story - a client couldn't pay with cash). Nurse, (or anybody with personal knowledge) what's your favorite thing about the PPQ?
Posted by: Frasier Crane

Trigger. And trigger reset.

Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 17, 2024 08:40 PM (xIkSP)

219 This was post-COVID and after the US 2020 Most Secure Election In The History Of Ever™, when the party in power started making noises about banning Internet ammo sales and other restrictionist regulation. I took to heart the guidance I found on Sunday nights on a certain smart military blog® that suggested buying ammo, and I grabbed whatever I could find online.
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And you were right to have. Only ace has the keys to the time machine.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 17, 2024 08:40 PM (hovnC)

220 Does anyone have USCC shooters insurance?

Do you like it? How much is it?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 17, 2024 08:43 PM (rJ7Hd)

221 No Range Report. But, a Collector's Question.

Year or two back, Weasel featured a 1934 Colt Police Positive Target, .22 LR revolver at the top of this thread.

Full photo array, all the angles.

The gun is VERY MINTY, and ALL ORIGINAL.

Including the internal lubrication. Which as all the slippery goodness of half-cured concrete. The grease has lost it's goodness. The oil has flowed back down to the well.

Question IS: Would the hard-core Colt Collector want the gun as it is, gunked up lube and all, or would he want the gun fresh back from Colt, with a thorough Cleaning by Colt, New Factory Lube, and a Colt's Letter?

Thanks in advance for all the Gun Thread Guidance, y'all!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at November 17, 2024 08:44 PM (Xo+UM)

222 We had an outside outfit in for a Shoot/Noshoot drill at our Parish for our armed team. Very interesting results but really no surprises. Most of our retired LEO members were slow to engage once the 'bad guy' drew his weapon. Very concerned with taking him alive and no injuries to civilians. The former Military guys were, generally, much faster to make a shoot decision and to then engage - no matter who/what was behind the shooter.

It was a graded exercise with e-vests and (weak) laser type 'projectiles' for team members, bad guys and bystanders.

We former mil guys scored better overall. The bad guys didn't get as many shoots off and therefore, fewer civilian casualties. As I said, interesting.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 17, 2024 08:45 PM (WXNFJ)

223 222 We had an outside outfit in for a Shoot/Noshoot drill at our Parish for our armed team.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 17, 2024 08:45 PM
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Interesting write-up. Kudos to your crew for taking the preparation exercise further than a one-dimensional plan on paper.

Posted by: TRex at November 17, 2024 08:47 PM (IQ6Gq)

224 Posted by: Tonypete at November 17, 2024 08:45 PM (WXNFJ)

Excellent thing to point out. Also, civilians aren't concerned with the same things as a cop when it comes to firearms being deployed. I'm pretty sure I've heard Mayoob and Branca both talk about it, as well as one of the other lawyers on youTube. Understand your goals when choosing a weapon and technique and tactics - home defense, carry, etc.

Posted by: GWB at November 17, 2024 08:49 PM (M+Nrs)

225 220 Does anyone have USCC shooters insurance?

Do you like it? How much is it?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 17, 2024 08:43 PM (rJ7Hd)

USCCA?

I have it. I haven't had to shoot anyone so I have no idea if it is any good. I got the elite for sra blaster and myself. I think we get a discount because we are both on there, and maybe I get a veteran's discount, too.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 08:50 PM (QfvaV)

226 Trigger. And trigger reset.
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 17, 2024 08:40 PM

IMO, many Walthers have the best triggers of striker-fired guns, slightly better than the H&K VP series, which are better than Sigs.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 17, 2024 08:50 PM (a3Q+t)

227 Building a featherweight M-1 Carbine weight AR is pretty simple use a KP-15 polymer lower with a 16" pencil barrel and the lightest aluminum hang guard on the upper one can.

Bonus points for skipping the dust cover and a see-all sight.

Posted by: sven at November 17, 2024 08:50 PM (X0I7i)

228 Also, Tonypete, does your team practice non-forearms stuff, too? Trauma first aid, CPR, de-escalation?

Posted by: GWB at November 17, 2024 08:51 PM (M+Nrs)

229 For clarity, I have already taken the CC class required by VA, and submitted all the paperwork. Just waiting on the bureaucrats to provide the permit.
While traveling, became aware of different State's requirements and thought I'd ask about SC.
If I understand correctly, I can carry now in a State with Constitutional Carry (no reason to prevent me from doing so), in VA once I get my permit, and thereafter, anywhere offering reciprocity.

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at November 17, 2024 08:52 PM (IQ6Gq)

230 Youo don't have to live or go to Utah to get it.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 17, 2024 08:34 PM

If you want to swim in the Great Salt Lake, or ski the greatest snow on Earth, you do.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 17, 2024 08:52 PM (a3Q+t)

231 The bad guys didn't get as many shoots off and therefore, fewer civilian casualties. As I said, interesting.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 17, 2024 08:45 PM (WXNFJ)

Lifelike training would seem to be a necessity in this environment, because live shooter events are almost impossible to envision in a casual manner!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NEXT Year In Corsicana - again! ~ at November 17, 2024 08:52 PM (hOUT3)

232 Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at November 17, 2024 08:52 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Take a look at the CCW app.

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 08:53 PM (fghTy)

233 Excellent thing to point out. Also, civilians aren't concerned with the same things as a cop when it comes to firearms being deployed. I'm pretty sure I've heard Mayoob and Branca both talk about it, as well as one of the other lawyers on youTube. Understand your goals when choosing a weapon and technique and tactics - home defense, carry, etc.
Posted by: GWB at November 17, 2024 08:49 PM (M+Nrs)
One constant, whether in uniform or off work, you never want to draw, you never want to shoot, you never want to harm a human being. Heavy load.

Posted by: Eromero at November 17, 2024 08:54 PM (LHPAg)

234 216 Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 08:37 PM (QfvaV)

Pretty hard to go much lighter than the KP-15....

https://tinyurl.com/KP-15-stuff

I have bought the Mil-Spec KP-15 lower for as low as 125 bucks,

https://tinyurl.com/PSA-16-inch-Pencil-Upper

Around 400 bucks....

so if you pay full freight you have a featherweight AR for ~ 650 bucks.

Posted by: sven at November 17, 2024 08:54 PM (X0I7i)

235 Take a look at the CCW app. Posted by: Weasel
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Will do, thanks.

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at November 17, 2024 08:55 PM (IQ6Gq)

236 328 FT comments, folks. Weasel needs his beauty sleep, not to mention his nerves not-frazzled by a wailing, ranting Ewok.

Comment for Weasel. You'll be glad you did.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 17, 2024 08:55 PM (a3Q+t)

237 Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 17, 2024 08:55 PM (a3Q+t)
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I dunno. The FT had a yellow mustard video, and I'm not sure how we can compete with that.

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 08:57 PM (fghTy)

238 Gort is definitely the best robot in sci-fi movie history.

Posted by: MichiCanuck at November 17, 2024 08:57 PM (qAgQt)

239 If I understand correctly, I can carry now in a State with Constitutional Carry (no reason to prevent me from doing so), in VA once I get my permit, and thereafter, anywhere offering reciprocity.
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at November 17, 2024 08:52 PM (IQ6Gq)

SOME states only have Constitutional Carry for citizens of that state I think.

But yes get the USCCA reciprocity app (you wouldn't want to be disappointing weasel would you) or their website is:

https://tinyurl.com/4pmap68a

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 08:57 PM (QfvaV)

240 208 Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 08:33 PM (QfvaV)

The WWSD people are off the chain on weight, carbon fiber upper furniture etc etc.

In reality the 5.56 punches harder than the .30 carbine at most ranges and definitely kicks more energy in the chamber so the weight has to be "at x."

That said I wound up wanting to add the Alumium buttplate on my 18" AR to balance it out because when you go too featherweight it throws off the balance a smidge.

You can have a lot of fun making a "spiritual" first gen-ar-15 theory design.

The AR is meant at heart to be a medium range iron sighted rifle.

Posted by: sven at November 17, 2024 08:58 PM (X0I7i)

241 Gort is definitely the best robot in sci-fi movie history.
Posted by: MichiCanuck at November 17, 2024 08:57 PM (qAgQt)

Nope. The one in Forbidden Planet.

Posted by: GWB at November 17, 2024 08:59 PM (M+Nrs)

242 Also, Tonypete, does your team practice non-forearms stuff, too? Trauma first aid, CPR, de-escalation?
Posted by: GWB

We are a little weak on our medical responses. We do have medical teams at all Masses - mostly retired nurses. BUT, what we have found out is our nurses tend to be expert in recovery, not EM trauma so, in the event of a mass casualty event or weather or building collapse, we are woefully under trained. We are planning to hold another event for those eventualities.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 17, 2024 09:00 PM (WXNFJ)

243 Gort is definitely the best robot in sci-fi movie history.
Posted by: MichiCanuck at November 17, 2024 08:57 PM (qAgQt)
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Absolutely!
What was the name of the stuff they used to try and encase Gort?

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 09:00 PM (fghTy)

244 Hey sven good seeing you round these parts. Long time no see

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 09:01 PM (QfvaV)

245 Gotta head out, thanks Weasel! Good to be back!

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 17, 2024 09:01 PM (llXky)

246 244 Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 09:01 PM (QfvaV)

I was working in the field for a few weeks and not posting in the run up to the election on purpose.

I lurked but I have to admit I get pretty plowed now that I am 29 +23....

Posted by: sven at November 17, 2024 09:02 PM (X0I7i)

247 Cleared a bunch of trees a few weeks back, down in the low ground to build our gun range.

Then received 8" of rain, so the little oxbow lake down there is now full of water.

Went out to do some more work yesterday, and it appears that the deer absolutely LOVE the clearing in the deep woods for the gun range.

Turns out that if you attend the Weasel long-range shooting presentation at the TXMoMe, it seems like the game is right there at the end of your barrel!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 17, 2024 09:02 PM (HlyYF)

248 Nice weekend in the woods with the model 700.

Posted by: scampydog at November 17, 2024 09:02 PM (41CYW)

249 Nope. The one in Forbidden Planet.

Posted by: GWB at November 17, 2024 08:59 PM

Isn't that Robby the Robot?

Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 17, 2024 09:03 PM (iZEhM)

250 We are planning to hold another event for those eventualities.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 17, 2024 09:00 PM (WXNFJ)

I am way behind in getting a trainer to come out to our church so we can start planning. I have multiple volunteers for various roles, but we need to write a plan and get a proper attitude for it all.

Posted by: GWB at November 17, 2024 09:03 PM (M+Nrs)

251 Nope. The one in Forbidden Planet.
Posted by: GWB at November 17, 2024 08:59 PM (M+Nrs)
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Well if you like gay robots, I suppose.

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 09:03 PM (fghTy)

252 Nope. The one in Forbidden Planet.

Posted by: GWB at November 17, 2024 08:59 PM

Isn't that Robby the Robot?
Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 17, 2024 09:03 PM (iZEhM)

I don't recall its name there. But it ends up being the robot in Lost In Space. I think that one's name is Robby? Or maybe it's the other way around. (Dr Smith had lots of names for the robot in LiS.)

Posted by: GWB at November 17, 2024 09:05 PM (M+Nrs)

253 Posted by: Jim at November 17, 2024 08:44 PM (Xo+UM)

Jim,

If that revolver has 1) never been fired or 2) fired only a few times, I think it might be better to simply leave it as it is. The original oil (or what's left of it) is mute testimony to its original condition. Hopefully you still have the original box and everything inside it. That's a couple hundred $$ right there.

I've heard Colt won't service its old model revolvers anymore. That ended in 2000 or so when commercial production of the original Colt Python ended. By now, all of the gunsmiths who worked on the older revolvers are long retired. But do check w/ Colt on their webpage just to make sure. The number of gunsmiths on the outside who know what they're doing can probably be counted on one hand. If you do decide to send your revolver out for work, I recommend Frank Glenn. He fixed up a couple of my Pythons that had gone out of time or had messed up firing pins.

Colt will still provide archive letters stating when your firearm was originally shipped and to who. Look up "Archive Services" on Colt's webpage. Be prepared to wait 90-120 days for the letter to arrive, unless you pay a premium for express service.

Posted by: Ed L at November 17, 2024 09:05 PM (AiJK3)

254 Nope. The one in Forbidden Planet.
Posted by: GWB at November 17, 2024 08:59 PM (M+Nrs)
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Well if you like gay robots, I suppose.
Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 09:03 PM (fghTy)

Hey. Which one carries a dude in the movie, and which one carries a hot chick?

Posted by: GWB at November 17, 2024 09:06 PM (M+Nrs)

255 251 Nope. The one in Forbidden Planet.
Posted by: GWB at November 17, 2024 08:59 PM (M+Nrs)
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Well if you like gay robots, I suppose.
Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 09:03 PM (fghTy)
Red Dwarf.

Posted by: Eromero at November 17, 2024 09:07 PM (LHPAg)

256 Lurker coming out of the shadows....a couple of years ago I inherited a metric fuckton of reloading equipment/supplies from my dad. I've done some reloading (common handgun loads) but haven't done any rifle reloading.
Question for the hoard: rough shelf life on open containers of smokeless powder? Dad had dozens of cans of all types and I don't have any idea (decades possibly) how old some of that stuff is or if it needs to be disposed of rather than used. Everything was all stored indoors in his gun room so no drastic temp/humidity swings.
Thanks.

Posted by: Roadroach at November 17, 2024 09:07 PM (rjOje)

257 I don't recall its name there. But it ends up being the robot in Lost In Space. I think that one's name is Robby? Or maybe it's the other way around. (Dr Smith had lots of names for the robot in LiS.)
Posted by: GWB at November 17, 2024 09:05 PM

Robby the Robot is a specific robot costume. The difference being like the name of the actor rather than the name of the character.

I think the one in LiS was a different. Off to check Wikipedia, for no readily apparent reason.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 17, 2024 09:08 PM (iZEhM)

258 For those who care about such things, SpaceX Starship Flight 6 is planned for Tuesday (Nov 19), NET 5pm ET.

Posted by: TRex at November 17, 2024 09:08 PM (IQ6Gq)

259 Posted by: Jim at November 17, 2024 08:44 PM (Xo+UM)
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The Colt Collectors group has (or used to have) a very good forum. I'd suggest posting your question there. My initial thought would be to leave it alone, or maybe use something like Ballistol to clean out the gunk (but check first)

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 09:09 PM (fghTy)

260 256 Lurker coming out of the shadows....a couple of years ago I inherited a metric fuckton of reloading equipment/supplies from my dad. I've done some reloading (common handgun loads) but haven't done any rifle reloading.
Question for the hoard: rough shelf life on open containers of smokeless powder? Dad had dozens of cans of all types and I don't have any idea (decades possibly) how old some of that stuff is or if it needs to be disposed of rather than used. Everything was all stored indoors in his gun room so no drastic temp/humidity swings.
Thanks.
Posted by: Roadroach at November 17, 2024 09:07 PM (rjOje)

Nothing to add to your inquiry, but welcome! Careful, though -- this place can get addictive, and inspire random travel to Texas.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 17, 2024 09:10 PM (v23vE)

261 For those who care about such things, SpaceX Starship Flight 6 is planned for Tuesday (Nov 19), NET 5pm ET.
Posted by: TRex at November 17, 2024 09:08 PM (IQ6Gq)

There should be a Rocket Thread that afternoon.

Posted by: GWB at November 17, 2024 09:10 PM (M+Nrs)

262 Posted by: GWB at November 17, 2024 09:06 PM (M+Nrs)
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Gort carried Patricia Neal into the ship!

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 09:11 PM (fghTy)

263 Schnorflepuppy -
already here (Tx hill country around Lake Buchanan).

Posted by: Roadroach at November 17, 2024 09:11 PM (rjOje)

264 Lightweight AR 15 found this:

https://tinyurl.com/4fjw67dj

A Faxon ION-X Hyperlight. It is sub 5 lbs. It is NOT a sub $1000 gun.

But some hints from the listing: pencil barrel (natch) carbon fiber mlok handguard, minimalist stock even a lightweight BCG! Says extra light receiver set. That's probably what drives the price up.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 09:11 PM (QfvaV)

265 263 Schnorflepuppy -
already here (Tx hill country around Lake Buchanan).
Posted by: Roadroach at November 17, 2024 09:11 PM (rjOje)

Cool! You may want to reserve the third weekend in October 2025 on your calendar. No time for explanations -- others will fill you in.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 17, 2024 09:13 PM (v23vE)

266 Posted by: Roadroach at November 17, 2024 09:07 PM (rjOje)
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Howdy and welcome! A very rudimentary test is to see if the powder smells like ammonia. If it does, it's probably not good. For peace of mind you might want to start with a fresh batch until you gain some experience with loading rifle cartridges

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 09:14 PM (fghTy)

267 Indubitably. No one likes a fag-bot.

Posted by: C-3PO at November 17, 2024 09:15 PM (hovnC)

268 Spuppy - lurking since the first reign of shit midas. Been meaning to look into a weekend in Corsicana. It's on my bucket list.

Posted by: Roadroach at November 17, 2024 09:15 PM (rjOje)

269 Posted by: Roadroach at November 17, 2024 09:11 PM (rjOje)

Cool! You may want to reserve the third weekend in October 2025 on your calendar. No time for explanations -- others will fill you in.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy

Roadroach, listen carefully to these words of wisdom from Schnorflepuppy!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NEXT Year In Corsicana - again! ~ at November 17, 2024 09:15 PM (hOUT3)

270 Posted by: Tonypete at November 17, 2024 09:00 PM (WXNFJ)

My combat lifesaver course I took prior to my 2011 deployment boiled down to these three things:
1) Triage
2) Tourniquet first, bandage second.
3) Golden hour for evacuation to hospital / shock prevention.
If you can get a Army medic or USN corpsman w/ recent deployment experience, they should be able to teach a decent combat lifesaver course which focuses on what you need to do to save lives in a mass casualty event. They'll need some tools/teaching aids, of course. I'm sure Grateful can provide better advice than I can.

Posted by: Ed L at November 17, 2024 09:17 PM (AiJK3)

271 I was actually thinking rivets. Not pop rivets. The kind that are forged in place.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 17, 2024 07:16 PM (iZEhM)

I have a bunch of miscellaneous pins that I will never use. Like "East Woopwoop 4H Centennial". The kind with a pointy stud on back, and a gripper that goes over it. Epoxy two to the back of the MoMee pin. Done deal! It's a keeper.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 17, 2024 09:17 PM (WZmoj)

272 Weasel - thanks much. I figured to load a little light and shoot over chrono and compare to published numbers. I like the sniff test.

You guys rock.

Posted by: Roadroach at November 17, 2024 09:18 PM (rjOje)

273 Roadroach, by open containers do you mean opened at one time, then cap put back on? If so, no problemo.
If they were sitting around uncovered, use as garden fertilizer.

Posted by: RI Red at November 17, 2024 09:18 PM (wqLUo)

274 Posted by: Roadroach at November 17, 2024 09:18 PM (rjOje)
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You bet. Drop me a line if you have questions.

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 09:18 PM (fghTy)

275 *stumbles into thread*

Just back from a wedding. This not being the Middle East, no gubs were involved.

That's all I got.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 17, 2024 09:19 PM (Wnv9h)

276 Some firearms function considerably better from a single hand grip. Vintage .32s come to mind.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 17, 2024 07:17 PM (llXky)

I will have to try that with the Eibar Ruby I have.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 17, 2024 09:19 PM (WZmoj)

277 OK! 9:21 thank you time!

Thank You!

Sure do appreciate all y'all being here tonight and hope to see you next Sunday.

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 09:21 PM (fghTy)

278 RI Red - cap put back on. My dad wasn't the wrong kind of moron. Sounds like I should be fine but just thought I'd ask (and get off the sidelines).

Posted by: Roadroach at November 17, 2024 09:21 PM (rjOje)

279 So thanks to MAE and the gunthread for sending me down the lightweight AR rabbit hole.

Like this:

https://tinyurl.com/2uwr643h

I don't need an AR with a bunch of titanium parts. I really don't.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 09:23 PM (QfvaV)

280 Thanks for hosting, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at November 17, 2024 09:25 PM (AiJK3)

281 270 Posted by: Tonypete at November 17, 2024 09:00 PM (WXNFJ)

My combat lifesaver course I took prior to my 2011 deployment boiled down to these three things:
1) Triage
2) Tourniquet first, bandage second.
3) Golden hour for evacuation to hospital / shock prevention.
If you can get a Army medic or USN corpsman w/ recent deployment experience, they should be able to teach a decent combat lifesaver course which focuses on what you need to do to save lives in a mass casualty event. They'll need some tools/teaching aids, of course. I'm sure Grateful can provide better advice than I can.
Posted by: Ed L at November 17, 2024 09:17 PM (AiJK3)
There is iron in the words of Ed L for all men to see. He knows we may experience combat here, where we shop, work, worship, or sleep. Wake up people.

Posted by: Eromero at November 17, 2024 09:25 PM (LHPAg)

282 Welcome, Roadroach!
Good place to comment. I’ve learned a thing or two here.
Yeah, go by the book, load light and chrono.
I’m hoping Santa gives me a garmin. My present chronos are so 2023. I’m embarrassed.

Posted by: RI Red at November 17, 2024 09:25 PM (wqLUo)

283 Gotta say, you're not entirely right about "The Day The Earth Stood Still" but you're not entirely wrong. Truly great movie. Is it better than "Sunrise"? "Die Lezte Mann"? "Die Bergkatze"? No. Don't be silly. But it's a great movie.

Posted by: normal at November 17, 2024 09:25 PM (bg2DR)

284 Thanks a bunch, Weasel. Just in closing for me, my brother-in-law passed away a few days ago. He and I had some good times at the range over the years. He was a veteran and a good all-around dude. Gonna miss him bigly. RIP, bro. Happy trails.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 17, 2024 09:27 PM (mH6SG)

285 Posted by: RI Red at November 17, 2024 09:25 PM (wqLUo)
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I keep looking at those and trying to come up with a reason to justify buying one.

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 09:27 PM (fghTy)

286 Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 17, 2024 09:27 PM (mH6SG)
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Condolences man.

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 09:28 PM (fghTy)

287 Condolences man.
Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 09:28 PM

Thank you, amigo.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 17, 2024 09:30 PM (mH6SG)

288 Gort carried Patricia Neal into the ship!
Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 09:11 PM (fghTy)

You're right. I forgot about that. I just remembered Gort carrying the alien.

Posted by: GWB at November 17, 2024 09:30 PM (M+Nrs)

289 Some weapons are best when you hold two of them. ~John Woo

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 17, 2024 09:31 PM (lhenN)

290 284 Thanks a bunch, Weasel. Just in closing for me, my brother-in-law passed away a few days ago. He and I had some good times at the range over the years. He was a veteran and a good all-around dude. Gonna miss him bigly. RIP, bro. Happy trails.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 17, 2024 09:27 PM (mH6SG)
Meet him on the other side,

Posted by: Eromero at November 17, 2024 09:31 PM (LHPAg)

291 284 Gonna miss him bigly. RIP, bro. Happy trails.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 17, 2024 09:27 PM
***
Sorry to hear. We'll keep you and your family in our prayers.

Posted by: TRex at November 17, 2024 09:32 PM (IQ6Gq)

292 Meet him on the other side,
Posted by: Eromero at November 17, 2024 09:31 PM

Yep. Sure hope and pray that's the plan.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 17, 2024 09:33 PM (mH6SG)

293 RIR - thanks.

One of the rifles I inherited is one I'm not sure if I want to keep or not. Thumbhole stock Bolt action chambered in .260 AAR. Stamped "Apex Imperial" on one side. Can't find much in the way of load data.

Posted by: Roadroach at November 17, 2024 09:33 PM (rjOje)

294 Much appreciated, TRex.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 17, 2024 09:34 PM (mH6SG)

295 Sorry to hear about your brother, 2024 has been rough.

Posted by: sven at November 17, 2024 09:34 PM (X0I7i)

296 Thanks, Sven. Yeah, it's been a bit rocky.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 17, 2024 09:35 PM (mH6SG)

297 Thank you, Weasel, for another great Sunday evening.

Posted by: GWB at November 17, 2024 09:36 PM (M+Nrs)

298 220 Does anyone have USCC shooters insurance?

Do you like it? How much is it?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 17, 2024 08:43 PM (rJ7Hd)

I don't have it yet and it's not actually insurance, but I'm probably going to be signing up with Attorneys on Retainer very soon. Their current rate is $357/year.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at November 17, 2024 09:36 PM (DTX3h)

299 Posted by: GWB at November 17, 2024 09:36 PM (M+Nrs)
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Thanks for being here every week!

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 09:36 PM (fghTy)

300 I don't need an AR with a bunch of titanium parts. I really don't.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 09:23 PM (QfvaV)

You can get pretty damned light even without titanium.

I built one a couple of years ago that is ridiculously light...and loads of fun to shoot!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2024 09:37 PM (d9fT1)

301 Action rifle match today, and they keep getting better. More action, more variety. I was the only one not shooting something made of plastic and aluminum alloy - my usual, the M1. As expected, performance was so-so, as I haven't been shooting it much recently. A few of us might collaborate and all shoot bolts next time.

Amusement is still derived from hits on the hanging steels, which sends them swinging wildly ("hit!" me - "are you sure?" - standard joke now). And in the point-blank stage of course the cardboards were blown off the frames, but they spotted me the second Alpha that I couldn't shoot because the target was on the ground.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 17, 2024 09:37 PM (1m82a)

302 Does anyone have USCC shooters insurance?

Do you like it? How much is it?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 17, 2024 08:43 PM (rJ7Hd)

I have it.
Not expensive. It gives me an attorney on call if ever needed. And it's the only one that will cover Washington State.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 17, 2024 09:38 PM (W/lyH)

303 I'm in the middle of refinishing my M1's stock. It's a Blue Sky rebuild from the 1990s, so it's nothing of any particular historical value.

The stock is pretty beat up, and I am not the world's best wood worker, so it isn't going to be gorgeous, but it's an interesting little project, and it will definitely look better.

My impetus was redmindbluestate's M1 that his father refinished. He did an excellent job, and it looks great. Mine won't be that beautiful, but it will be nice looking!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2024 09:39 PM (d9fT1)

304 I think US Law Shield is the one I subscribe to. Seemed OK when I signed up a few years back and it's been on auto-renew ever since. Guess I should check on that sometime!

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 09:40 PM (fghTy)

305 CBD, what sort of finish are you going to give the M1?

Posted by: rhomboid at November 17, 2024 09:40 PM (1m82a)

306 And it's the only one that will cover Washington State.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 17, 2024 09:38 PM (W/lyH)

That's one more than will cover NJ.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2024 09:40 PM (d9fT1)

307 Heh. I remember the time he and I got to take a go at a Barrett .50. We just looked at each other and said "holy shit!!!". Good times.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 17, 2024 09:41 PM (mH6SG)

308 TonyPete,

I will reach out to you via your email regarding suggestions for training. Very wise to consider this now, rather than later.

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at November 17, 2024 09:41 PM (IQ6Gq)

309 Please accept my Condolences, Notorious BFD.

Other than 5 November, much of 2024 has been.... wobbly.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at November 17, 2024 09:42 PM (Xo+UM)

310 Does anyone have USCC shooters insurance?

Do you like it? How much is it?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 17, 2024 08:43 PM (rJ7Hd)

I have it.
Not expensive. It gives me an attorney on call if ever needed. And it's the only one that will cover Washington State.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 17, 2024 09:38 PM (W/lyH)
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Correction
I have US Law Shield.
They cover Washington. USCC does not.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 17, 2024 09:42 PM (W/lyH)

311 Speaking of guns, I won a Remington 870 shotgun at our American Legion fund raiser last night. I'll be giving it to my grandson as I already own a 12-gauge Remington Marine Magnum shotgun. This was a DNR trade-in that I picked up on an online government auction.

Posted by: Jolo at November 17, 2024 09:42 PM (ueCMm)

312 Thanks much, JSND.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 17, 2024 09:43 PM (mH6SG)

313 I am experimenting with Redneck Riviera Whiskey and Flower Honey from India. This is my third one, hope I get it right, gotta jump up in the morning at 0600ish.

Posted by: Eromero at November 17, 2024 09:45 PM (LHPAg)

314 Thank you Horde. Thank you Weasel. I learned things. Nice to see some new names here tonight.

Posted by: TRex at November 17, 2024 09:45 PM (IQ6Gq)

315 303 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2024 09:39 PM (d9fT1)

A gentle suggestion...

https://tinyurl.com/Choate-M1-Folder-Mil-Spec

Posted by: sven at November 17, 2024 09:45 PM (X0I7i)

316 CBD, what sort of finish are you going to give the M1?

Posted by: rhomboid at November 17, 2024 09:40 PM (1m82a)

Raw linseed oil. It's easy, but time consuming.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2024 09:45 PM (d9fT1)

317 Posted by: sven at November 17, 2024 09:45 PM (X0I7i)

The M1 Carbine is illegal to possess in NJ. Felony!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2024 09:46 PM (d9fT1)

318 CBD, great, that's an historically correct finish for the M1. Not great timing where you are in November but leaving the stock in the sun after treatment can help both absorption and darkening.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 17, 2024 09:47 PM (1m82a)

319 Some weapons are best when you hold two of them. ~John Woo
Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 17, 2024 09:31 PM

Especially belt-fed.

Posted by: Ahnold at November 17, 2024 09:48 PM (a3Q+t)

320 Jim SND, I have not commented, but best to you.

Posted by: RI Red at November 17, 2024 09:48 PM (wqLUo)

321 317 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2024 09:46 PM (d9fT1)

Ah the Garand then, apologies...

Yeah, yeah not encouraging felonies.

They make polymer garand stocks.

Posted by: sven at November 17, 2024 09:49 PM (X0I7i)

322 M1 carbine is verboten in NJ?? WTF?? But ARs are legal?

Did fine with mine today in the short-range stages (I always switch from big to little M1 when going to short-range at these matches). At very short ranges I find that Civil War artillery sighting (just looking over the sights) works fairly well, very well if the target's not already saturated with taped hits, and I can see my hits as they happen.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 17, 2024 09:49 PM (1m82a)

323 Weasel,
totally forgot to mention, love the musical selection tonight. Thanks!

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at November 17, 2024 09:50 PM (IQ6Gq)

324 284 Thanks a bunch, Weasel. Just in closing for me, my brother-in-law passed away a few days ago. He and I had some good times at the range over the years. He was a veteran and a good all-around dude. Gonna miss him bigly. RIP, bro. Happy trails.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 17, 2024 09:27 PM (mH6SG)

So sorry for your loss. May his memory be a blessing.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 17, 2024 09:51 PM (v23vE)

325 Raw linseed oil. It's easy, but time consuming.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2024 09:45 PM (d9fT1)

CBD, that’s what I did with mine, then gun wax over. Came out great.
Hand rubbing. Works well on a lot of things!

Posted by: RI Red at November 17, 2024 09:51 PM (wqLUo)

326 Weasel, is your finger, injured in that shiv-training "accident", that bluebell totally doesn't know about, healing up?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 17, 2024 09:52 PM (a3Q+t)

327 Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at November 17, 2024 09:50 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Glad you liked it!

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 09:52 PM (fghTy)

328 Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 17, 2024 09:51 PM

Thank you as well, SP. What an awesome bunch of folks y'all are. Bless you.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 17, 2024 09:52 PM (mH6SG)

329 309 Please accept my Condolences, Notorious BFD.

Other than 5 November, much of 2024 has been.... wobbly.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at November 17, 2024 09:42 PM (Xo+UM)

And, brother, you would sure know all about that. Hope all is as well as can be. You remain in my prayers.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 17, 2024 09:53 PM (v23vE)

330 Hand rubbing. Works well on a lot of things!
Posted by: RI Red at November 17, 2024 09:51 PM

Can vouch for.

Posted by: Jeffrey "The Toob" Toobin at November 17, 2024 09:53 PM (a3Q+t)

331

Robby the Robot and Anne Francis

https://t.ly/hyNf_

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 17, 2024 09:53 PM (63Dwl)

332 And ammo ordered....now for dinner....

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at November 17, 2024 09:53 PM (IQ6Gq)

333 They make polymer garand stocks.

Posted by: sven at November 17, 2024 09:49 PM (X0I7i)

And I'll probably get one...eventually. But refinishing the stock is sort of fun, and keeping it true to the original is satisfying.

And I also need to go to Alabama and buy another one. As you know, one can't have too many M1s!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2024 09:54 PM (d9fT1)

334 Grateful - cool, thanks!

Posted by: Tonypete at November 17, 2024 09:54 PM (WXNFJ)

335 And, brother, you would sure know all about that. Hope all is as well as can be. You remain in my prayers.

And mine, as well.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 17, 2024 09:54 PM (mH6SG)

336 Thanks for gubs, Weasel.

Have some travel cigar-related stuff I can work up for cigar content.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 17, 2024 09:54 PM (1m82a)

337 Made it.

This is cutting it to close for Weasel's comfort.

#BeBetter

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 17, 2024 09:54 PM (a3Q+t)

338 Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 17, 2024 09:52 PM (a3Q+t)
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A bunch of neosporin and bandaids and all good now!

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 09:55 PM (fghTy)

339 CBD, that’s what I did with mine, then gun wax over. Came out great.

Posted by: RI Red at November 17, 2024 09:51 PM (wqLUo)

Should I bother with the wax?

And...how many coats of linseed oil do you do?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2024 09:55 PM (d9fT1)

340 333 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2024 09:54 PM (d9fT1)

Eh to each their own, I find like both Grandpas I prefer either the M-3 grease gun or M1 carbine....

As I age and finally have the money AND the time to shoot various kit I am slowly in awe of how good the AR platform really is as a practical weapon.

Posted by: sven at November 17, 2024 09:56 PM (X0I7i)

341 Sorry to be so maudlin on what is normally an upbeat GUB. Thanks for putting up with me.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 17, 2024 09:56 PM (mH6SG)

342 337 Made it.

This is cutting it to close for Weasel's comfort.

#BeBetter
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 17, 2024 09:54 PM (a3Q+t)

We just need Pixy to enforce auto-bans on the Food Thread the moment Weasel posts the Gub Thread.

I'm not asking too much here ...

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 17, 2024 09:56 PM (v23vE)

343 Should I bother with the wax?

....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2024 09:55 PM (d9fT1)

You know.

Wax on.

Wax off.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 09:56 PM (QfvaV)

344 CBD I'm dying to visit the CMP store but wondering how I can manage that. Have to fit it in somewhere. But ..... traveling with a rifle, hmmm. Car trip no problem, but flying. Sort of a pilgrimage I've long wanted to make.

Doing the CMP class is another thing on the list.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 17, 2024 09:57 PM (1m82a)

345 There is something to be said for the woodies though CBD, I am desperately trying NOT to build a Hollywood Prototype AR with wood furniture....

It will look weird being a safe queen next to my lighter and more modern 18" dissipators.

Posted by: sven at November 17, 2024 09:57 PM (X0I7i)

346 I am slowly in awe of how good the AR platform really is as a practical weapon.

Posted by: sven at November 17, 2024 09:56 PM (X0I7i)

I'm with you!

It's loads of fun, robust, and a versatile weapon. Tough to beat.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2024 09:57 PM (d9fT1)

347 As I age and finally have the money AND the time to shoot various kit I am slowly in awe of how good the AR platform really is as a practical weapon.
Posted by: sven at November 17, 2024 09:56 PM (X0I7i)

For all the hate it has gotten it has been the primary weapon for US Soldiers for 50 years now.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at November 17, 2024 09:58 PM (QfvaV)

348 322 M1 carbine is verboten in NJ?? WTF?? But ARs are legal?
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I'll guess based on barrel length, the main factor here.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 17, 2024 09:58 PM (hovnC)

349 341 Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 17, 2024 09:56 PM (mH6SG)

No need for apologies, the horde is a source of strength and succor.

I lost another sister this year.....life sucks.

Posted by: sven at November 17, 2024 09:58 PM (X0I7i)

350 Posted by: rhomboid at November 17, 2024 09:57 PM (1m82a)

Flying with weapons is not as bad as one might think!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2024 09:58 PM (d9fT1)

351 341 Sorry to be so maudlin on what is normally an upbeat GUB. Thanks for putting up with me.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 17, 2024 09:56 PM (mH6SG)

One thing I've taken away from the TXMoMe and many gub threads over the years is that we're here for each other. I kinda love that.

OTOH, if you forget a closing tag, it's The Barrel for you!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 17, 2024 09:59 PM (v23vE)

352 If I recall correctly the M1 stocks would receive multiple treatments of linseed oil over time, but it varied a lot. That plus age and sunlight gave them their rich dark color (both of mine are very nice dark GI wood).

Posted by: rhomboid at November 17, 2024 09:59 PM (1m82a)

353 I'll guess based on barrel length, the main factor here.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 17, 2024 09:58 PM (hovnC)

Who the f*ck knows...the State Police are a bunch of Nazis who know sh*t about guns but KNOW they hate them all. It's up to them, and they are capricious.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2024 10:00 PM (d9fT1)

354 And I also need to go to Alabama and buy another one. As you know, one can't have too many M1s!

* ponders *

Where am I going to put another safe?

Posted by: Oddbob (5 and counting) at November 17, 2024 10:01 PM (/y8xj)

355 CBD, I have no recollection. All I remember is that it was shipped to my door in RI, so it would have been pre 2012.
Holy Scheisse.That was a long time ago.
But a brand new unfinished stock that said, “Feed me linseed oil!”

Posted by: RI Red at November 17, 2024 10:02 PM (wqLUo)

356 ONT nood, featuring our friend Doof!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 17, 2024 10:03 PM (v23vE)

357 And yes, hand rub gun wax. You saw mine a couple of years back. Almost too beautiful to shoot. Almost.

Posted by: RI Red at November 17, 2024 10:05 PM (wqLUo)

358 Ok, sign off time. Weasel, I know we all say it, but thanks. This is a labor of love, I know, and many of us really look forward to this.

Posted by: RI Red at November 17, 2024 10:07 PM (wqLUo)

359 /semi-sock

Posted by: Oddbob at November 17, 2024 10:11 PM (/y8xj)

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