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The Morning Rant: Minimalist Edition

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The headlong rush to envelop the world in war continues apace. Ukraine wants its border war to expand so NATO rushes to its rescue, and the Biden/Obama junta wants to create chaos for the incoming Trump administration while simultaneously pleasing the neo-neocons who never saw a war (and rising defense industry profits) and graft they didn't like.

What is really curious is the concurrent maniacal push for a ceasefire in Gaza and Lebanon. Hell, the ICC is charging Israel with crimes against humanity in a war against a terror group. Isn't war against big bad meanies a good thing? Or is it just war that enriches the elites. Maybe Israel should revamp their government and culture so that the grifting graft-seekers in the West will make money?

Russia launched intercontinental ballistic missile during attack on Ukraine, Kyiv says

Russia launched an intercontinental ballistic missile during an attack on Ukraine on Thursday, Kyiv's air force said, in the first known use in the war of such a powerful, nuclear-capable weapon with a range of thousands of kilometers.

The air force reported the launch after Ukraine fired US and British missiles at targets inside Russia this week, despite warnings by Moscow that it would see such action as a major escalation in the 33-month-old war.


Who knows who is telling the truth! KKKYYEEEEVVV is a corrupt kleptocracy whose politicians and businessmen are becoming fabulously wealthy, courtesy of the American taxpayer. They have every motivation to keep this war simmering for years. Putin is a thug who wants to control his own backyard, so every Western provocation, like the use of American missiles or the approval to use anti-personnel landmines, is countered with...something. He just relaxed the rules for the use of nuclear weapons, and perhaps he launched an ICBM (it's just a big missile with a long range. It's the payload that matters) so the West can freak out.

It's clear that we are being used and manipulated by the Ukrainian kleptocracy, but Putin is also yanking us and the rest of NATO around like a carnival ride.

The problem with that is obvious...nobody knows what is next, particularly with the Biden/Obama junta making reckless decisions.

Gavrilo Princip to the NATO courtesy phone?

[Crossposted at CutJibNewsletter]

Posted by: CBD at 11:00 AM




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Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2024 11:00 AM (CIS44)

2 hey yo!

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2024 11:01 AM (CIS44)

3 I called 'em.

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2024 11:01 AM (CIS44)

4 WW3

Posted by: It's me donna at November 21, 2024 11:01 AM (IyPmt)

5 grand slam?

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2024 11:01 AM (CIS44)

6 *this close*

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2024 11:01 AM (CIS44)

7 And Donna throws Bruce out at the plate!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 21, 2024 11:03 AM (2UnvF)

8 WW3?
Hat trick!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at November 21, 2024 11:04 AM (Rn7nm)

9 ICBM? ICUMI.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at November 21, 2024 11:04 AM (L/fGl)

10 Putin's response is quite understandable. Ukraine wanted to make a big show of "look what new cool missiles we've got!" So Putin says "you wanna see missiles? Here, take a look at these." The fact that they may have had inert warheads just emphasized the point - he could eliminate Kiev completely anytime he wants.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2024 11:04 AM (wyMQY)

11 And Donna throws Bruce out at the plate!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 21, 2024 11:03 AM (2UnvF)

If only we were still allowed to barrel through the catcher.

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2024 11:04 AM (CIS44)

12 ...and the US has an interest in Ukraine because?

Posted by: BignJames at November 21, 2024 11:05 AM (Yj6Os)

13 It's not like I've got a hotline to God sitting on my desk or anything..but I don't think the Creator intends for WW3 to erupt on the eve of a YUUGE Trump 2nd term.

Trump has escaped repeated attempts to kill him off, whether politically, virtually or actually. So, at this point a big fat "meh" is all I got.

It really sucks for the people in the affected territories, though.

Posted by: kallisto at November 21, 2024 11:06 AM (dCxaZ)

14 Alaska kept ranked choice voting (ballots cast by caribou shouldn't count, but what do I know). The only way to get rid of Murk then is to vote for whatever frozen snot crusted Dem runs against her.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 21, 2024 11:06 AM (H58V2)

15 "The headlong rush to envelop the world in war continues apace."

Hold on to your butts.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at November 21, 2024 11:06 AM (AiZBA)

16 NORAD or NATO would detect the launch first, right,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at November 21, 2024 11:06 AM (pGTZo)

17 The lid is going to blow off.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 21, 2024 11:06 AM (EB81I)

18 I don't think there's been "official" confirmation that Russia used a conventionally armed ICBM on Ukraine.

Like I said earlier; it looks an awful lot like a multiple rocket type artillery barrage dropping through low clouds. Lots of individual hits. Perhaps more than one would typically find on an ICBM... even with conventional munitions.

But... who knows at this point. If it was an ICBM Putin just put the US and Ukraine on notice that he's done fucking around and we're about to find out.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 21, 2024 11:07 AM (Q4IgG)

19 The resident humorless scold just flounced out of the last thread!

Posted by: test pattern at November 21, 2024 11:07 AM (OGxeG)

20
So Z has given up on Crimea and is trying to get the best deal he can before the Democrat junta collapses or is swept from power, I wonder what that looks like?

What sanctions get lifted? How does Russia deal with anyone going forward?

How many socialist "NATO" regimes fall apart or make opposition illegal?

Posted by: Auspex at November 21, 2024 11:07 AM (j4U/Z)

21
non aesthetic things

@PicturesFoIder
Right before Jeffrey Dahmer was caught, he had so many bodies piled up in his apartment, that he actually stashed one in the bathtub, where he just stood over it everyday for a month to take a shower

Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 21, 2024 11:08 AM (TGPs7)

22 I don't give a rat's dick about Ukraine or indeed any country in Europe. Fuck them all. If opposing the dastardly vile Putin is so cosmically important, then the Euro countries who have most to lose can fucking oppose him themselves. Not my circus, not my monkeys.

These Euro countries have plenty of money to indulge in every lavish green stupidity and woke nonsense. They can pay for their own defense.

None of these Euro countries are much better than Russia anyway. They oppress and abuse their own citizens. They allow slithering alien CHUDs to rape and murder their young ladies. They steal and graft and thieve and steal.

Maybe we should rethink this whole thing and join forces with Russia to take over all of Europe. Fuck these fuckers once and for all.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 21, 2024 11:08 AM (iFTx/)

23 It's against my better judgment but it's lunch time

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2024 11:08 AM (w/9xg)

24 >>The problem with that is obvious...nobody knows what is next, particularly with the Biden/Obama junta making reckless decisions.

If Obama and Biden disappeared off the face of the earth tomorrow not a thing would change in DC. They are a symptom not the cause.

First principles, Clarice.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2024 11:08 AM (LkLld)

25 Joe: I see BM, Mommy!

Dr. Jill: Launch!!!


Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at November 21, 2024 11:08 AM (g52cw)

26
12 ...and the US has an interest in Ukraine because?
Posted by: BignJames at November 21, 2024 11:05 AM (Yj6Os)

mumble mumble,... biolabs... burisma... mumble mumble...

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2024 11:09 AM (wyMQY)

27 60 more days.

Keep yourself strapped in.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 21, 2024 11:09 AM (ufFY8)

28 Hamas probably provides our deep state pedophiles with kids, and there is a good bit of graft via the various humanitarian aid programs.

Posted by: PaleRider at November 21, 2024 11:09 AM (UKUm3)

29 Hell, the ICC is charging Israel with crimes against humanity in a war against a terror group. Isn't war against big bad meanies a good thing?

Of course it's a good thing. That's why they're charging Israel. As long as you understand that their definition of "big bad meanie" isn't that same as that of a human with a functioning soul, it's perfectly clear.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 21, 2024 11:09 AM (ExV1e)

30 I think it’s obvious Putin is just sending a message that he could send an nuclear ICBM if Russia chose to. A clear warning to not send missiles into Russia again.

IMO from the beginning Putin has chosen to try to win the war by attrition rather than sending the full might of the Russian military.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 21, 2024 11:10 AM (D6PGr)

31 I don't think there's been "official" confirmation that Russia used a conventionally armed ICBM on Ukraine.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 21, 2024 11:07 AM (Q4IgG)


That's why I used the word, "perhaps."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 21, 2024 11:11 AM (d9fT1)

32 @PicturesFoIder
Right before Jeffrey Dahmer was caught, he had so many bodies piled up in his apartment, that he actually stashed one in the bathtub, where he just stood over it everyday for a month to take a shower
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 21, 2024 11:08 AM (TGPs7)

His name was Matt.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 21, 2024 11:11 AM (EB81I)

33 Huge amounts of corruption from both parties doesn't surprise me, but even so, this uncanny ability to keep finding pockets filled with billions for Ukraine every few weeks that Biden's handlers handed over to Ukraine with barely a peep of protest from our representatives was a pretty amazing display of theft. Bravo, I guess.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 21, 2024 11:11 AM (H58V2)

34 Putin should have launched a big paint missile

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2024 11:11 AM (w/9xg)

35 If Obama and Biden disappeared off the face of the earth tomorrow not a thing would change in DC. They are a symptom not the cause.

First principles, Clarice.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2024 11:08 AM (LkLld)

Agree completely. Quite a few are noticing that we have no idea who is running the US right now; Biden is lost in non compos mentis land, Kamala is running around Hawaii with Oprah or something, Obama has retreated to find a new Swedish Chef or something - so who's in charge, who's making all these decisions?

Most likely the same 25 - 30 Obama acolytes who've been making all the decisions for the last 4 years. They now know they have about 60 days left to cause as much chaos as possible, so they're stealing and breaking as much as they can before then.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2024 11:12 AM (wyMQY)

36 ...the first known use in the war of such a powerful, nuclear-capable weapon...

Technically, artillery is nuclear capable.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 21, 2024 11:12 AM (ExV1e)

37 Putin's response is quite understandable. Ukraine wanted to make a big show of "look what new cool missiles we've got!" So Putin says "you wanna see missiles? Here, take a look at these."

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2024 11:04 AM (wyMQY)


Agreed.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 21, 2024 11:12 AM (d9fT1)

38 Biden is lost in non compos mentis land, Kamala is running around Hawaii with Oprah
-------

She's at a Dance Party With Beyonce.

Posted by: ... at November 21, 2024 11:12 AM (tjmEP)

39 Hey, Cuba has hot chicks and nice beaches. Lets invade Cuba.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 21, 2024 11:12 AM (jFCkp)

40 before we go to defcon 3, lets not rely on the ghost of kiev hallucinations,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at November 21, 2024 11:12 AM (pGTZo)

41 The ICBM launch.
A couple thoughts...

Did our early warning systems catch it? If so, how did we react? Was Biden pulled out of bed? DEFCON Change?

What kind of missile? This makes a bit of a difference but not much.

Putin also ran a major Nuke exercise firing his arsenal in "test firings." Sea launched, Air Launched, etc. This too is a message.

Putin is upping the ante. As mentioned in the last thread, can we really trust our own National Command Authority? And more importantly, can Putin?

I hope like hell there is some back-channel communications going on. This was a warning. It may be Putin's last one.

Thought for the day: What do we do when he detonates a small nuke over a Ukraine city?

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2024 11:13 AM (W/lyH)

42 >>Huge amounts of corruption from both parties doesn't surprise me, but even so, this uncanny ability to keep finding pockets filled with billions for Ukraine every few weeks that Biden's handlers handed over to Ukraine with barely a peep of protest from our representatives was a pretty amazing display of theft. Bravo, I guess.

Yet they couldn't find a penny to build a wall.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2024 11:13 AM (LkLld)

43 before we go to defcon 3, lets not rely on the ghost of kiev hallucinations,
Posted by: miguel cervantes at November 21, 2024 11:12 AM (pGTZo)

He was a hero!
-Adam "crybaby" Kinzinger

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2024 11:13 AM (CIS44)

44 10
‘ he could eliminate Kiev completely anytime he wants.’

Did the missile land in Kiev? Because that would make the message loud and clear.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 21, 2024 11:13 AM (jbnUc)

45 34 Putin should have launched a big paint missile
---------------
Hat tip to Oddball.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 21, 2024 11:13 AM (jFCkp)

46 It's clear that we are being used and manipulated by the Ukrainian kleptocracy, but Putin is also yanking us and the rest of NATO around like a carnival ride.

We could always just say "a pox on both your houses", let them sort it out themselves (after all the Russian military/economy/government is on the verge of collapse), and go on about our day.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 21, 2024 11:14 AM (ExV1e)

47 Biden is lost in non compos mentis land, Kamala is running around Hawaii with Oprah
-------

She's at a Dance Party With Beyonce.
Posted by: ... at November 21, 2024 11:12 AM (tjmEP)


Make it a Dance Fever and I'm in!

Posted by: Deney Terrio at November 21, 2024 11:15 AM (Aqu9a)

48 34 Putin should have launched a big paint missile
_____

This is the way.

Posted by: Big Paint (cover the world) at November 21, 2024 11:15 AM (H58V2)

49 and perhaps he launched an ICBM (it's just a big missile with a long range. It's the payload that matters) so the West can freak out.

Bingo.

I would not be at all surprised if Putin tests a nuke next - particularly since one of the arguments that the neocons use is "meh - Russia's nukes won't work, anyway".

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 21, 2024 11:15 AM (uxCna)

50 Launching an ICBM is a message, all right.
And a test.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at November 21, 2024 11:15 AM (xcxpd)

51 Is this what they mean by "slouching" toward war?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 21, 2024 11:15 AM (RIvkX)

52 31 I don't think there's been "official" confirmation that Russia used a conventionally armed ICBM on Ukraine.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 21, 2024 11:07 AM (Q4IgG)

--

Where'd they launch it from? Siberia? I'm no intelligence expert, but aren't ICBM launches easily detected?

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 21, 2024 11:15 AM (wzAuc)

53 What do we do when he detonates a small nuke over a Ukraine city?

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2024 11:13 AM (W/lyH)

We should send another $50 billion, and also mandate that every social media account displays a Ukrainian flag

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 21, 2024 11:15 AM (d9fT1)

54 Biden is lost in non compos mentis land, Kamala is running around Hawaii with Oprah
-------

She's at a Dance Party With Beyonce.
Posted by: ... at November 21, 2024 11:12 AM (tjmEP)

It's not a Dance Party without Janet Reno.

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2024 11:16 AM (CIS44)

55 ...and the US has an interest in Ukraine because?
Posted by: BignJames at November 21, 2024 11:05 AM (Yj6Os)


Blonde sex slaves. I thought we covered that on the first day of orientation.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 21, 2024 11:16 AM (ExV1e)

56 Are those Lefty tears falling in that monkey image?

Posted by: ShainS -- We shot them under DOD Directive 5240.01 at November 21, 2024 11:16 AM (MpEy/)

57 31 I don't think there's been "official" confirmation that Russia used a conventionally armed ICBM on Ukraine.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 21, 2024 11:07 AM (Q4IgG)

That's why I used the word, "perhaps."
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 21, 2024 11:11 AM (d9fT1)

The need for the military/industrial/technology complex to continue this conflict is paramount for them. Human life is not even a secondary consideration for these people.. They are inhuman monsters, and their supporters are all death cultists in the final analysis.

Posted by: tubal at November 21, 2024 11:16 AM (PCK5/)

58 I call. *pushes matching missile in to the pot*

Posted by: Putin at November 21, 2024 11:16 AM (Aqu9a)

59 52 31 I don't think there's been "official" confirmation that Russia used a conventionally armed ICBM on Ukraine.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 21, 2024 11:07 AM (Q4IgG)

--

Where'd they launch it from? Siberia? I'm no intelligence expert, but aren't ICBM launches easily detected?
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 21, 2024 11:15 AM (wzAuc)

They know, they just aren't telling us.
We're Little People.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at November 21, 2024 11:16 AM (xcxpd)

60 Make it a Dance Fever and I'm in!
Posted by: Deney Terrio at November 21, 2024 11:15 AM (Aqu9a)


Dance off, bro!

Posted by: Starlord at November 21, 2024 11:16 AM (PiwSw)

61 Biden is lost in non compos mentis land, Kamala is running around Hawaii with Oprah

Kamala is aware that she still has a job to do for the next two months, right?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 21, 2024 11:16 AM (uxCna)

62 khinshals are nuclear tipped, they have the prerequisite range

Posted by: miguel cervantes at November 21, 2024 11:16 AM (pGTZo)

63
Did the missile land in Kiev? Because that would make the message loud and clear.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 21, 2024 11:13 AM (jbnUc)

I believe it landed in Dnipro, a city of 1 million. (not sure why they chose that) The video of the multiple MIRVed warheads striking was quite impressive. Notably very little damage was done, emphasizing that this was a demonstration of might, not an actual attack.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2024 11:17 AM (wyMQY)

64 The only way to get rid of Murk then is to vote for whatever frozen snot crusted Dem runs against her.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 21, 2024 11:06 AM (H58V2)


That's not the only way. -- your friendly neighborhood Grim Reaper

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 21, 2024 11:17 AM (ExV1e)

65

All I want for Christmas is Uke nuked, Uke nuked...

Posted by: Boeing Northrop at November 21, 2024 11:17 AM (aUTNS)

66 42 >>Huge amounts of corruption from both parties doesn't surprise me, but even so, this uncanny ability to keep finding pockets filled with billions for Ukraine every few weeks that Biden's handlers handed over to Ukraine with barely a peep of protest from our representatives was a pretty amazing display of theft. Bravo, I guess.

Yet they couldn't find a penny to build a wall.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2024 11:13 AM (LkLld)

Worse, they sold wall-building material for a penny

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at November 21, 2024 11:17 AM (xcxpd)

67 The Democratic chair of the Senate Homeland Security Committee blasted the heads of the FBI and Department of Homeland Security on Thursday, issuing a rare but sharp rebuke of the two officials for failing to appear for a public hearing. Sen. Gary Peters (D-Mich.) said both Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Minorkas and FBI Director Christopher Wray “refused to appear” before the panel for its annual hearing about threats to the homeland, saying it was the first time in 15 years officials have done so.

... who knew the country was in such deep shit that these two can't break away to answer the questions of these good fair-minded Senators ...... or is it that they don't want to go on record answering question that could be used against them during the next administration.

Posted by: Jon Stewart at November 21, 2024 11:17 AM (RHGPo)

68 Kamala is aware that she still has a job to do for the next two months, right?
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 21, 2024 11:16 AM (uxCna)

She was going on and on about getting back to work on the 11th.

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2024 11:18 AM (CIS44)

69 Yet they couldn't find a penny to build a wall.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2024 11:13 AM (LkLld)

A wall and proper vetting of the people trying to come here from the Mexican border would have disrupted their child sex rings Jack. If we get divine protection of the world and the incoming Trump administration maybe some of the sick perverts will be exposed and jailed in the next few years.

Posted by: PaleRider at November 21, 2024 11:18 AM (UKUm3)

70 Where'd they launch it from? Siberia?

Astrakhan, allegedly.

North side of the Caspian Sea.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 21, 2024 11:18 AM (uxCna)

71 Russia launched intercontinental ballistic missile during attack on Ukraine, Kyiv says

And we have the video game footage to prove it! If you would send more money, the quality will be better next time.

Posted by: KEEEV! at November 21, 2024 11:18 AM (U7Cio)

72 Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova, having notably not small breasts and being a fine-looking woman given her apparent age, apparently took a phone call during her presser with someone on the other end of the call allegedly directing her not to discuss the ICBM thing.

(Yes, I went there >>boob thread).

Posted by: one hour sober at November 21, 2024 11:18 AM (Y1sOo)

73 It’s also obvious to me that Putin is trying to avoid civilian targets and casualties evidenced by nightclubs being open and otherwise normal life going on in major urban areas ( other than heightened state of war) .

Am I wrong on that front and things have changed?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 21, 2024 11:18 AM (D6PGr)

74 Hmmm ... Lefty tears or pixelated in the top banner as well.

Maybe it's my device or browser?

Posted by: ShainS -- We shot them under DOD Directive 5240.01 at November 21, 2024 11:18 AM (MpEy/)

75 That's not the only way. -- your friendly neighborhood Grim Reaper
-----------------
Polar Bear?

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 21, 2024 11:18 AM (jFCkp)

76 I don't think there's been "official" confirmation that Russia used a conventionally armed ICBM on Ukraine.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 21, 2024 11:07 AM (Q4IgG)


Are you suggesting that the media might (let me be REAL charitable here) be incorrect about something? How dare you, sir!

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 21, 2024 11:19 AM (ExV1e)

77 >>> @PicturesFoIder
Right before Jeffrey Dahmer was caught, he had so many bodies piled up in his apartment, that he actually stashed one in the bathtub, where he just stood over it everyday for a month to take a shower

That sounds like my level of resistance to cleaning some days! Minus decomposing bodies, of course.

I watched a good vid lately that said ADHD brains are wired to see everything as a task, versus a habit. Our brains don't give off the dopamine hit for all the little everyday tasks that are part of life like it does for regular brains, that receptor is broken. So instead of a shower just being something I do everyday out of habit, and my brain gives me a nice hit of dopamine for it, my brain files it away every day as another chore. Which makes executive functioning hard, unless you can get it balanced with meds or create a productive routine to make the tasks less taskful. Was interesting food for thought.

Posted by: LizLem, Lord of the Rings and the Reckonings at November 21, 2024 11:19 AM (wcIbG)

78 59 52 31 I don't think there's been "official" confirmation that Russia used a conventionally armed ICBM on Ukraine.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 21, 2024 11:07 AM (Q4IgG

There's video on X of the MIRVed warheads striking. Can't think of anything but an ICBM that could have delivered that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2024 11:19 AM (wyMQY)

79 Where'd they launch it from? Siberia? I'm no intelligence expert, but aren't ICBM launches easily detected?
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 21, 2024 11:15 AM (wzAuc)


Plesetsk is the usual site for test firings. Easy enough to change the direction of the launch. There are a couple of others.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2024 11:19 AM (W/lyH)

80 Thx CBD. I watch Military Summary on YouTube. He's a Belorussian so he's somewhat pro Russian. However he says never listen to anything you hear unless it's backed up by geolocated videos. The Russians are overrunning just about every strong point in the Donbas and are pushing north out of Saporedzia. The Ukes won't have much left in the way of manpower by the time Trump takes over

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 21, 2024 11:19 AM (/y7Fe)

81 61 Biden is lost in non compos mentis land, Kamala is running around Hawaii with Oprah

Kamala is aware that she still has a job to do for the next two months, right?
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 21, 2024 11:16 AM (uxCna)

Why should she start now?

She's lining up her sinecure

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at November 21, 2024 11:20 AM (xcxpd)

82 Apparently even with ranked choice, the republican beat the dem in Alaska? I don't have hope Murk will ever leave though.

Posted by: LizLem, Lord of the Rings and the Reckonings at November 21, 2024 11:20 AM (wcIbG)

83 32
‘ His name was Matt.’
Hahaha! Oh, you!

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 21, 2024 11:20 AM (jbnUc)

84 Apparently even with ranked choice, the republican beat the dem in Alaska? I don't have hope Murk will ever leave though.
Posted by: LizLem, Lord of the Rings and the Reckonings at November 21, 2024 11:20 AM (wcIbG)

I'd point out that she's up there in years, but the evil never seem to pass.

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2024 11:21 AM (CIS44)

85 I believe it landed in Dnipro, a city of 1 million. (not sure why they chose that)

Because it is a big Ukrainian city that isn't Kiev.

The video of the multiple MIRVed warheads striking was quite impressive.

True - there are multiple videos showing this.

Notably very little damage was done, emphasizing that this was a demonstration of might, not an actual attack.

It looks like the missile had an inert warhead.

Message-sending time.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 21, 2024 11:21 AM (uxCna)

86 Isn't the ICC playing 'bothsidesism' (to quote a DUism), and charging a dead Hamas dude, as well?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 21, 2024 11:21 AM (TTO0Z)

87 In September, U.S. District Court Judge Loren AliKhan denied a motion from MSNBC legal analyst and attorney Andrew Weissmann to dismiss a complaint filed by Stefan Passantino, who represented former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson before she became the Jan. 6 Committee’s star witness.

Weissmann, however, charged Passantino with “coach[ing] her to lie” in a post to roughly 320,000 followers on X after CNN published a series of hit pieces that accused Passantino of pressuring Hutchinson to illegally manipulate her testimony.

A recent report from House Republicans investigating the Jan. 6 Committee in October found that Hutchinson was communicating directly with Cheney without Passantino’s knowledge throughout his representation of her.

Posted by: Jon Stewart at November 21, 2024 11:21 AM (RHGPo)

88 Everyone here knows, or damn well should know that Russia has been pulling its’ punches in th is dustup with Ukraine.. if they decide to use their full resources the body count will let’s say… increase. There is no parity of power here, there never was.

Posted by: tubal at November 21, 2024 11:22 AM (PCK5/)

89
"Putin is a thug who wants to control his own backyard, so every Western provocation, like the use of American missiles or the approval to use anti-personnel landmines, is countered with...something. "

How about Putin counter with withdrawing his aggression and leave a sovereign nation alone?

Nobody forced him to invade and destroy Ukraine or Georgia.

Posted by: Speller at November 21, 2024 11:22 AM (pSotA)

90 61 Biden is lost in non compos mentis land, Kamala is running around Hawaii with Oprah

Kamala is aware that she still has a job to do for the next two months, right?
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 21, 2024 11:16 AM (uxCna)

She's going to put the same amount of effort into it that she has put into the last 4 years. In about 2 or 3 years, her face is gonna be on the back of milk cartons. She can't campaign, she can't do public speaking, her followers were always astroturfed fakes - she's going to completely disapear faster than you can say "expeliamos!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2024 11:22 AM (wyMQY)

91 Kamala is aware that she still has a job to do for the next two months, right?

And I'm sure she'll be just as diligent and effective at it as she has been the last two months.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2024 11:22 AM (/y8xj)

92 Everyone here knows, or damn well should know that Russia has been pulling its’ punches in th is dustup with Ukraine.. if they decide to use their full resources the body count will let’s say… increase. There is no parity of power here, there never was.
Posted by: tubal at November 21, 2024 11:22 AM (PCK5/)

But I was told the Ukraine would be in Moscow in a month if we would just a little more help. Was I lied to?

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2024 11:23 AM (CIS44)

93 Let's send a couple of GLG-20 guys up there to find out what Putin is thinking.

Posted by: Ace Tomato Company at November 21, 2024 11:23 AM (Aqu9a)

94 There's video on X of the MIRVed warheads striking. Can't think of anything but an ICBM that could have delivered that.

We would have gone with nuclear if we had had better graphics cards. Can anyone put us in touch with Pixy Misa?

Posted by: Ukraine Grift Ministry at November 21, 2024 11:24 AM (DyY8E)

95 None of these Euro countries are much better than Russia anyway. They oppress and abuse their own citizens. They allow slithering alien CHUDs to rape and murder their young ladies. They steal and graft and thieve and steal.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 21, 2024 11:08 AM (iFTx/)


I recall reading something about France planning to prosecute LePen for doing something that they made illegal after it was done.

Really tired up propping up Europe.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 21, 2024 11:24 AM (ExV1e)

96 Nobody forced him to invade and destroy Ukraine or Georgia.

No, but somebody did tell him that it wouldn't be a big problem if he did.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2024 11:24 AM (/y8xj)

97 In before 100!

Posted by: NR Pax at November 21, 2024 11:25 AM (lXoJ5)

98 is a thug who wants to control his own backyard, so every Western provocation, like the use of American missiles or the approval to use anti-personnel landmines, is countered with...something. "

How about Putin counter with withdrawing his aggression and leave a sovereign nation alone?

Nobody forced him to invade and destroy Ukraine or Georgia.
Posted by: Speller at November 21, 2024 11:22 AM (pSotA)

Why did he invade after years war talk ? Surely you know the reasons even if you disagree with them.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 21, 2024 11:25 AM (D6PGr)

99 Well this is fun. We have no one in charge and the world is preparing for war. Go Biden! Best president EVAH!

Posted by: Piper at November 21, 2024 11:25 AM (p4NUW)

100
" BruceWayne at November 21, 2024 11:23 AM"

Yes, you were lied to.
Russia invaded Ukraine, not the other way around.

Posted by: Speller at November 21, 2024 11:25 AM (pSotA)

101 How about Putin counter with withdrawing his aggression and leave a sovereign nation alone?

Nobody forced him to invade and destroy Ukraine or Georgia.

Posted by: Speller at November 21, 2024 11:22 AM (pSotA)

Maybe the West shouldn't be pushing NATO to his borders?

But absent that, it's a border clash, and the big bad meanie is going to win. That sounds like much of history.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 21, 2024 11:25 AM (d9fT1)

102 I'd point out that she's up there in years, but the evil never seem to pass.
Posted by: BruceWayne
_____

Hopefully Trump's election will drastically reduce domestic supply of adrenochrome. That and raise tarrifs on foreign supplies from Europe. I predict a lot of our politicians that are way past normal sell by date but surprisingly spry enough to keep their clawhold on power will fade away in the next 4 years.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 21, 2024 11:26 AM (H58V2)

103 What has been obvious for a long time is now undeniable. This country has been dealing with a mental illness crisis for a long time that has been represented as a legitimate political movement.

The Democrat Party has been overtaken by people who are mentally ill and we need to stop pretending their opinions and policies are legitimate political discourse.

https://tinyurl.com/przzrej8

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2024 11:26 AM (LkLld)

104 Greedy bastards got a lot of Ukrainians killed for fun and profit… well, don’t know about fun, but considering that they are soulless godless monsters I wouldn’t rule that out.

Posted by: tubal at November 21, 2024 11:26 AM (PCK5/)

105 Anybody up for a game of Missile Command?

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 21, 2024 11:26 AM (Aqu9a)

106 63
‘ this was a demonstration of might’

And a demonstration of the precision of the MIR vehicle.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 21, 2024 11:26 AM (jbnUc)

107

Since Ukrainian young women ages sixteen to thirty are most vulnerable to abuse and exploitation, I think that we should volunteer to serve as host families and bring them here, for their own safety...

Posted by: Dirty Frank at November 21, 2024 11:27 AM (aUTNS)

108 Hopefully Trump's election will drastically reduce domestic supply of adrenochrome. That and raise tarrifs on foreign supplies from Europe. I predict a lot of our politicians that are way past normal sell by date but surprisingly spry enough to keep their clawhold on power will fade away in the next 4 years.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 21, 2024 11:26 AM (H58V2)

*crosses fingers, toes, arms, and legs*

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2024 11:27 AM (CIS44)

109 "His name is Matt" Top drawer cruelty there.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 21, 2024 11:27 AM (wBaIH)

110 Posted by: Speller at November 21, 2024 11:25 AM (pSotA)

I think you missed the point.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 21, 2024 11:27 AM (d9fT1)

111 End forever war? That sounds like right wing neo Nazi white nationalist woman hating talk!!!
— Raytheon

Posted by: It is Go Time Donald at November 21, 2024 11:27 AM (gbVJ5)

112 "It's not like I've got a hotline to God sitting on my desk or anything.."

I saw Hotline to God open for Eric Clapton at the Betty Ford Center in 1991.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 21, 2024 11:27 AM (KAi1n)

113 Kamala is running around Hawaii with Oprah

Broadening her horizons?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 21, 2024 11:28 AM (ExV1e)

114 We would have gone with nuclear if we had had better graphics cards. Can anyone put us in touch with Pixy Misa?
Posted by: Ukraine Grift Ministry at November 21, 2024 11:24 AM (DyY8E)

Funny - but Putin isn't denying it. I think it's a very serious and effective warning - cut out the missile attacks on Russian territory, or this is what you got coming. The DC warmongers might want WW3, but Z-man has got to start thinking that he can have a cushy life if he settles in the next 60 days and retires to the Riviera with his loot. No reason to die this late in the game.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2024 11:28 AM (wyMQY)

115 Since Ukrainian young women ages sixteen to thirty are most vulnerable to abuse and exploitation, I think that we should volunteer to serve as host families and bring them here, for their own safety...
Posted by: Dirty Frank at November 21, 2024 11:27 AM (aUTNS)

Must provide pics.

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2024 11:28 AM (CIS44)

116 Kamala is aware that she still has a job to do for the next two months, right?
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 21, 2024 11:16 AM (uxCna)

Why start now? Might be better if she didn't try to do her "job".

Posted by: hobbitopoly at November 21, 2024 11:28 AM (k9OZB)

117 107

Since Ukrainian young women ages sixteen to thirty are most vulnerable to abuse and exploitation, I think that we should volunteer to serve as host families and bring them here, for their own safety...
Posted by: Dirty Frank

16?

Posted by: Piper at November 21, 2024 11:29 AM (p4NUW)

118 Gavrilo Princip to the NATO courtesy phone?

A few months ago, the New York Times reported that Ukraine was preparing an attack so horrific that while we told Ukraine not to do it, we also warned the Russians about the planned attack, to distance ourselves from it.

I wonder if some sort of WMD attack was planned by Ukraine.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 21, 2024 11:30 AM (uxCna)

119
"Maybe the West shouldn't be pushing NATO to his borders?"

Pushing NATO to Putin's borders?
Nations join NATO because Russia is a rapacious aggressor.
Russia stops being an aggressor and they have nothing to worry about.

Posted by: Speller at November 21, 2024 11:30 AM (pSotA)

120 Judge makes shock ruling on Jussie Smollett's conviction

https://mol.im/a/14110721

Posted by: Ciampino - linky links at November 21, 2024 11:30 AM (i0xsb)

121 udge makes shock ruling on Jussie Smollett's conviction

https://mol.im/a/14110721
Posted by: Ciampino - linky links at November 21, 2024 11:30 AM (i0xsb)

ARE YOU EFFING KIDDING ME?!?!

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2024 11:31 AM (CIS44)

122 Has anyone considered the possibility that we put Murk on an ice floe, leave her with one days food and water (wouldn't want to be thought of as monsters) and tow it out to about 200 miles from Kiska then cut it loose?

Posted by: Old Blue at November 21, 2024 11:31 AM (X6YhY)

123 What also matters is Russia is now using its alliance troops in battle, so this war is creeping inexorably towards being a multi-state combat.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 21, 2024 11:31 AM (s2Gsy)

124 72
‘ Maria Zakharova’
(Immediately googles images and is not disappointed)

Man, she towers over Vlad.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 21, 2024 11:31 AM (jbnUc)

125 Has anyone considered the possibility that we put Murk on an ice floe, leave her with one days food and water (wouldn't want to be thought of as monsters) and tow it out to about 200 miles from Kiska then cut it loose?
Posted by: Old Blue at November 21, 2024 11:31 AM (X6YhY)

I'm cool with just dropping her in Polar Bear territory on the mainland. Ya know, to be fair.

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2024 11:32 AM (CIS44)

126 Couple pretty simple yes or no questions- Does Russia/Putin want a war with NATO/the West? Does NATO/the West want a war with Russia/Putin?

Look at it all thru that simple lens, and it becomes clear who struck John, as my mother used to say.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at November 21, 2024 11:32 AM (MZ+PY)

127 Another example.

Does anyone really believe that transgenderism is anything other than mental illness? Is cutting the genitals off children normal human behavior?

This shit has to stop.

https://tinyurl.com/mt6w7rb7

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2024 11:32 AM (LkLld)

128 Ukrainian young women ages sixteen to thirty become trucks later.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at November 21, 2024 11:32 AM (Rn7nm)

129 Since Ukrainian young women ages sixteen to thirty are most vulnerable to abuse and exploitation, I think that we should volunteer to serve as host families and bring them here, for their own safety...
Posted by: Dirty Frank

The women will have to be selected for their sexual characteristics which will have to be of a highly stimulating nature.

Posted by: Dr. Strangelove at November 21, 2024 11:32 AM (Aqu9a)

130 I guess the fact that the west lies to Russia and refuses the overtures of peace they make all while shelling Russia friendly eastern Ukraine has nothing at all to do with anything?

Posted by: Dandolo at November 21, 2024 11:33 AM (3QsZU)

131 Russia stops being an aggressor and they have nothing to worry about.

Uh, uh. Organizations like the Hudson Institute and the US government Helsinki Commission have been happily planning to break up Russia into numerous small, weak, nominally independent states for years now.

If they win, they intend to carve Russia up.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 21, 2024 11:35 AM (uxCna)

132 How about a nice game of chess?

Posted by: WOPR at November 21, 2024 11:35 AM (Aqu9a)

133 127 Another example.

Does anyone really believe that transgenderism is anything other than mental illness? Is cutting the genitals off children normal human behavior?

This shit has to stop.

https://tinyurl.com/mt6w7rb7
Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2024 11:32 AM (LkLld)

-----

100% There is not ONE who isn't a nut job.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 21, 2024 11:35 AM (jyAD3)

134 Maybe the US should not have run a coup in Ukraine and put in an illegitimate president, and maybe the US should not have opened multiple bioweapons labs in Ukraine, and maybe Ukraine should not have been launching artillery barrages on the Donbas for five years before Putin decided to do something about it.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 21, 2024 11:35 AM (bXGJl)

135 Israel should place ICC "justices" on the enemies list and deal with them accordingly.

Posted by: runner at November 21, 2024 11:35 AM (V13WU)

136 123 What also matters is Russia is now using its alliance troops in battle, so this war is creeping inexorably towards being a multi-state combat.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 21, 2024 11:31 AM (s2Gsy)

I believe the Norks have been overjoyed to have been treated to a new flavor of grass to eat.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2024 11:35 AM (wyMQY)

137 120 Posted by: Ciampino - linky links at November 21, 2024 11:30 AM (i0xsb)
--------------------
In Re: Smollett

I did not know he's never served a single day. That seems ... two-tierish

He was sentenced to 150 days in jail and 30 months' probation after it was proven that he made the episode up, and he was also slapped with a hefty fine of $130,160.

Smollett appealed the ruling and has not yet served a day of that sentence behind bars, even after his conviction was previously affirmed by a lower court in 2022 before the Supreme Court agreed to hear his appeal.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 21, 2024 11:36 AM (s2Gsy)

138
"Russia friendly eastern Ukraine"

Collaborators. They're collaborators aiding an invader.
What do you call illegal aliens? Immigrants?

Posted by: Speller at November 21, 2024 11:36 AM (pSotA)

139 Amal Clooney , that little dumbass George Clooney's wife, lent a hand to that indictment.

Posted by: runner at November 21, 2024 11:36 AM (V13WU)

140 Maybe the US should not have run a coup in Ukraine and put in an illegitimate president, and maybe the US should not have opened multiple bioweapons labs in Ukraine, and maybe Ukraine should not have been launching artillery barrages on the Donbas for five years before Putin decided to do something about it.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 21, 2024 11:35 AM (bXGJl)

And Maybe the US President shouldn't have said a small invasion is totes cool.

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2024 11:36 AM (CIS44)

141 If Mexico decided to overthrow a US friendly government with a coup and then outlaw the English language and invited the CCP to open up military operations in Mexico under a formal agreement , I guess the US should and would just lean back and take it ?

That’s the very simplistic way I evaluate this conflict.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 21, 2024 11:36 AM (D6PGr)

142 Rob Reiner Drives Himself Bonkers Post-Election, Checks Into a 'Facility'

Posted by: Jon Stewart at November 21, 2024 11:36 AM (RHGPo)

143 ...and the US has an interest in Ukraine because?
Posted by: BignJames at November 21, 2024 11:05 AM (Yj6Os)

Senators sons make good money there.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 21, 2024 11:36 AM (n7h9X)

144 Speller, big on evil Russia, short on US and Ukraine provocations.

The war could have been settled long ago but the Junta said, "No" to a peace agreement.

By the way, Speller, who was it overthrew the duly elected government of Ukraine? Did you happen to notice Ukraine share a border with Russia? Who has repeatedly called for "Regime Change" in Russia?

Also, who has been shelling the Donbas region for quite some time now?

I swear, Ukraine apologists refuse to admit Ukraine is every bit as corrupt as Russia and the US has been heavily involved in that corruption for decades.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 21, 2024 11:37 AM (tT6L1)

145 The ICMB video looks photo shopped to me.

Posted by: Ho Lee Phuck, PLA Cyber Warfare Unit #317 at November 21, 2024 11:37 AM (5MA0f)

146 Excellent piece, imho, CBD. Thanks.

Interesting that you cited Gavrilo Princip in it, from the region been a big part in/of previous World Wars.

>NATO: Peace support operations in Bosnia and Herzegovina (1995-2004) Last updated: 21 Mar. 2024

In part, "The evolution of NATO’s assistance
A four-year war started in Bosnia and Herzegovina when Yugoslavia – Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Montenegro, North Macedonia (known at the time as the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia), Serbia and Slovenia – broke up at the end of the Cold War."

>Adriatic Metals, The Vares Project (Bosnia), Bosnia and Herzegovina Facts - Adriatic’s flagship operation in full swing in a new modern-day jurisdiction.

“Potential Candidate” for EU membership

The accession of Bosnia and Herzegovina to NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization) has been under negotiations since 2008.

Russia recognized the independence of Bosnia and Herzegovina on 27 April 1992. I don't think they detest Russia - or Putin - but IDK for certain.

Also, the region seems to be FJB's 'obsession.'

Posted by: L - Rooster today, feather duster tomorrow. But not w/o a fight. at November 21, 2024 11:37 AM (NFX2v)

147
Judge makes shock ruling on Jussie Smollett's conviction

When does he get his own talk show?
Flounce with the stars! Trump hate all the time!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at November 21, 2024 11:38 AM (Rn7nm)

148 Ukrainian young women ages sixteen to thirty become trucks later.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at November 21, 2024 11:32 AM (Rn7nm)

You asked for it -
https://youtu.be/rr1DSgjhRqE

Posted by: Donatan Cleo at November 21, 2024 11:38 AM (Aqu9a)

149 That blake guy seems smart.

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2024 11:38 AM (CIS44)

150 128 Ukrainian young women ages sixteen to thirty become trucks later.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at November 21, 2024 11:32 AM (Rn7nm)

They CAN...the Uke girls I knew were very interested in looking good, so they were dressing well, hitting the gym and looked F I N E even at 40.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at November 21, 2024 11:38 AM (xcxpd)

151 If Mexico decided to overthrow a US friendly government with a coup and then outlaw the English language and invited the CCP to open up military operations in Mexico under a formal agreement , I guess the US should and would just lean back and take it ?

That’s the very simplistic way I evaluate this conflict.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 21, 2024 11:36 AM (D6PGr)

In the coup the Ukrainians burned 25 or so ethnic Russians alive in Odessa. A lot of countries don't see the humor in that.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 21, 2024 11:38 AM (n7h9X)

152 Rob Reiner Drives Himself Bonkers Post-Election, Checks Into a 'Facility'

Posted by: Jon Stewart at November 21, 2024 11:36 AM (RHGPo)

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Lobotomies R Us?

Posted by: ShainS -- We shot them under DOD Directive 5240.01 at November 21, 2024 11:38 AM (MpEy/)

153 Kamala is aware that she still has a job to do for the next two months, right?

And I'm sure she'll be just as diligent and effective at it as she has been the last two months.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2024 11:22 AM (/y8xj)


I doubt she can spell ICBM much less know what one does. And it will take three advisors to explain it to her resulting in a screaming fit.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2024 11:38 AM (W/lyH)

154 Filmmaker, producer, and actor Rob Reiner has made Bluesky his X-alternative of choice. He was hoping to rid himself of opposing viewpoints, and — well, he's finding that Trump supporters aren't making it easy for him to live in a left-wing echo chamber.

"Anyone continuing to post hate towards me here will be blocked," he posted on the platform on Saturday. "I escaped the other place for a more peaceful time."

"I’m finding it very hard to sleep these days. It is 3:15 am," he posted later. "I am laying awake dreading January 20th 2025."

The situation wasn't looking good on Sunday when he announced, "I have big decisions to make. For the good of myself, my family, and my country."

Things seemed better the following day, when he announced, "After much discussion and heated debate with family, friends and colleagues I have decided for my own sanity and health moving forward to accept what is coming."

Posted by: Jon Stewart at November 21, 2024 11:39 AM (RHGPo)

155 "Russia friendly eastern Ukraine"

Collaborators. They're collaborators aiding an invader.
What do you call illegal aliens? Immigrants?
Posted by: Speller at November 21, 2024 11:36 AM (pSotA)


Collaborators?

They started shelling them in 2014. Shortly after we performed a color revolution. It was one of the several reasons for this war.

Posted by: Dandolo at November 21, 2024 11:39 AM (3QsZU)

156
This shit has to stop.

https://tinyurl.com/mt6w7rb7
Posted by: JackStra


Stop. Just stop.

Look at yourself in a mirror.

You are wearing a pink pussy hat, fer chrissakes.

Find your balls and switch them back on. Ransack your spouse's purse if you have to.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 21, 2024 11:39 AM (uRZZ/)

157 Monte-negro?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at November 21, 2024 11:39 AM (Rn7nm)

158 >>Pushing NATO to Putin's borders?
Nations join NATO because Russia is a rapacious aggressor.
Russia stops being an aggressor and they have nothing to worry about.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2024 11:40 AM (LkLld)

159 ...and the US has an interest in Ukraine because?
Posted by: BignJames at November 21, 2024 11:05 AM (Yj6Os)


ONE TRILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF MINERALS IN EASTERN UKRAINE!

BLACKROCK AND JP MORGAN WILL FEAST!

IT'S VERY SIMPLE!

Posted by: Miss Lindsey! at November 21, 2024 11:40 AM (uxCna)

160 That blake guy seems smart.

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2024 11:38 AM (CIS44)

---------------

I'm pretty sure that all the smart commenters here are AI ChatBots.

Posted by: ShainS -- We shot them under DOD Directive 5240.01 at November 21, 2024 11:40 AM (MpEy/)

161 Does anyone really believe that transgenderism is anything other than mental illness? Is cutting the genitals off children normal human behavior?

This shit has to stop.

https://tinyurl.com/mt6w7rb7
Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2024 11:32 AM (LkLld)

All signs so far are that rather than pulling back, the Dem Party is going to choose Transgenderism as their hill to die on. They made a huge mistake in inviting the crazies and mentally ill perverts into their party; now, in the wake of the lost,it appears that most of the moderate dems remaining are disgusted with the process, while the crazies are going ballistic and using this as the moment to seize all remaining positions of power in the Dem Party. This is playing out in the microcosm of BlueSky, the platform where the left is building its base. Any democrat who hints that they want too far in support of the trans agenda is shouted down and banned if they don't shut up. Looks like that is where the entire Dem Party is headed.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2024 11:41 AM (wyMQY)

162 I swear, Ukraine apologists refuse to admit Ukraine is every bit as corrupt as Russia and the US has been heavily involved in that corruption for decades.
---------------
Mmm, we are the ones that backed the Ukraine Coup. Duh. Electoral Shenanigans.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 21, 2024 11:41 AM (jFCkp)

163 The situation wasn't looking good on Sunday when he announced, "I have big decisions to make. For the good of myself, my family, and my country."

-

Don't do it. It will hurt your family. Pray, accept Christ, and practice the Golden Rule.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the missing 13M votes are more proof of the 2020 fraud at November 21, 2024 11:41 AM (4+VMV)

164 I'm pretty sure that all the smart commenters here are AI ChatBots.
Posted by: ShainS -- We shot them under DOD Directive 5240.01 at November 21, 2024 11:40 AM (MpEy/)

Hey I'm not an AI ChatBot

OHHHHHHHHHHHH

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2024 11:41 AM (CIS44)

165 HAs Rob Reiner done anything worth a shit since Spinal Tap?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 21, 2024 11:41 AM (2UnvF)

166 The video of the supposed ICBM strike does not look like a MIRV'ed ICBM to me. MIRVs are programmed to hit targets many miles apart (i.e., different cities), not hit a few yards from each other.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at November 21, 2024 11:41 AM (+BqEV)

167 What also matters is Russia is now using its alliance troops in battle, so this war is creeping inexorably towards being a multi-state combat.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 21, 2024 11:31 AM (s2Gsy)

I believe the Norks have been overjoyed to have been treated to a new flavor of grass to eat.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2024 11:35 AM (wyMQY)

Funny that our high tech spy services don't yet have a single picture of these North Korean troops.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 21, 2024 11:41 AM (n7h9X)

168 95
‘ I recall reading something about France planning to prosecute LePen for doing something that they made illegal after it was done. ’

I saw an interview with JD Vance where JD made the point that our European partners need to be better about honoring free speech and the rule of law. Because these are American values and we would reconsider membership in NATO if those countries stay on a course counter to American values.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 21, 2024 11:41 AM (jbnUc)

169
Things seemed better the following day, when he announced, "After much discussion and heated debate with family, friends and colleagues I have decided for my own sanity and health moving forward to accept what is coming."


Oh, what BIG BOY you are now, Meathead!

Go shop for the next step undergarments appropriate to your new BIG BOY status!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 21, 2024 11:41 AM (uRZZ/)

170 All signs so far are that rather than pulling back, the Dem Party is going to choose Transgenderism as their hill to die on. They made a huge mistake in inviting the crazies and mentally ill perverts into their party; now, in the wake of the lost,it appears that most of the moderate dems remaining are disgusted with the process, while the crazies are going ballistic and using this as the moment to seize all remaining positions of power in the Dem Party. This is playing out in the microcosm of BlueSky, the platform where the left is building its base. Any democrat who hints that they want too far in support of the trans agenda is shouted down and banned if they don't shut up. Looks like that is where the entire Dem Party is headed.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2024 11:41 AM (wyMQY)

See Also: Moulton, Seth

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2024 11:42 AM (CIS44)

171 Things seemed better the following day, when he announced, "After much discussion and heated debate with family, friends and colleagues I have decided for my own sanity and health moving forward to accept what is coming."

I thought that Reiner was going to set himself on fire if Trump won.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 21, 2024 11:42 AM (uxCna)

172 he could eliminate Kiev completely

or put the lights out in DC
or Blue Plains to punctuate that he's had enough of DC's shit.

Posted by: DaveA at November 21, 2024 11:42 AM (FhXTo)

173 The video of the supposed ICBM strike does not look like a MIRV'ed ICBM to me. MIRVs are programmed to hit targets many miles apart (i.e., different cities), not hit a few yards from each other.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at November 21, 2024 11:41 AM (+BqEV)

That might depend on when you blew the MIRV system - if at altitude, distant targets, if right before impact, a few yards.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 21, 2024 11:43 AM (n7h9X)

174 Filmmaker, producer, and actor Rob Reiner has made Bluesky his X-alternative of choice.
[ ... ]
The situation wasn't looking good on Sunday when he announced, "I have big decisions to make. For the good of myself, my family, and my country."


Yes, Rob. The fate of the country hinges on your next Big Decision.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2024 11:43 AM (/y8xj)

175 Ellen DeGenerate has announced that she is fleeing the US and is moving to the UK permanently. I hope she enjoys her new Muslim overlords.

and I'm sure everyone here is heartbroken over the loss.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2024 11:43 AM (wyMQY)

176 Does anyone really believe that transgenderism is anything other than mental illness? Is cutting the genitals off children normal human behavior?

This shit has to stop.

https://tinyurl.com/mt6w7rb7

-

"And if you want to leave your house you have to cover up your self expression"

Yes, perv, we expect you to not be a sex perv in the streets where children can see you. Stop being a filthy degenerate.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the missing 13M votes are more proof of the 2020 fraud at November 21, 2024 11:43 AM (4+VMV)

177 In the coup the Ukrainians burned 25 or so ethnic Russians alive in Odessa. A lot of countries don't see the humor in that.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 21, 2024 11:38 AM (n7h9X)

They refused the offer of a new, internationally monitored election in favor of the coup .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 21, 2024 11:43 AM (D6PGr)

178 Prince Gabriel is warming up his horn

Posted by: Kindltot at November 21, 2024 11:43 AM (D7oie)

179 ran out of matchs,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at November 21, 2024 11:43 AM (pGTZo)

180 I thought that Reiner was going to set himself on fire if Trump won.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 21, 2024 11:42 AM (uxCna)

That fire could heat a 1000 cities for 1000 years.

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2024 11:43 AM (CIS44)

181 Nobody forced him to invade and destroy Ukraine or Georgia.

==

really ? I guess Regime Change in neighboring countries and turning them into NATO staging ground is seen as Clear and Present Danger to Russia. As Russian has said many times. Similar as it would be Clear and Present Danger to the US if the Taliban took over Mexico and Iran took over Canada. Pentagon fools refused to listen.

Posted by: runner at November 21, 2024 11:44 AM (V13WU)

182 One wonders how many launches it took to actually send one? Or is the care and feeding at a higher level with these?

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at November 21, 2024 11:44 AM (hKoQL)

183 Ellen DeGenerate has announced that she is fleeing the US and is moving to the UK permanently.

-

Not Mexico or Africa, though. Somewhere nice and white, with really nice white stuff.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the missing 13M votes are more proof of the 2020 fraud at November 21, 2024 11:44 AM (4+VMV)

184 ‘ I recall reading something about France planning to prosecute LePen for doing something that they made illegal after it was done. ’

The UK parliament is also "summoning" Elon Musk to testify, regarding his refusal to censor X to the satisfaction of the British government.

Musk will doubtless be arrested and prosecuted if he's dumb enough to set foot in the UK.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 21, 2024 11:44 AM (uxCna)

185 NATO serves three purposes; (1) Keep the Germans Down, (2) Keep the Soviets Out, and (3) Keep the Americans In. That's it. This has not changed a wink in 80 years.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 21, 2024 11:44 AM (jFCkp)

186
I'm pretty sure that all the smart commenters here are AI ChatBots.
Posted by: ShainS -- We shot them under DOD Directive


The real AI ChatBots always accuse the meatspace commenters of being AI ChatBots.

That's their tell.

ONE OF US!
ONE OF US!
ONE OF US!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 21, 2024 11:45 AM (uRZZ/)

187 Nobody forced him to invade and destroy Ukraine or Georgia.


-

hahahaha

This won't work here, friend. We all know NATO started it. It's been linked too many times.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the missing 13M votes are more proof of the 2020 fraud at November 21, 2024 11:45 AM (4+VMV)

188
"By the way, Speller, who was it overthrew the duly elected government of Ukraine?"

The President that was overthrown was Russia's installed puppet.

"Ukraine apologists refuse to admit Ukraine is every bit as corrupt as Russia"

I'll admit it.
I'll even admit the U.S. is every bit as corrupt as Russia.

That is irrelevant.
Ukraine is a sovereign country that has been invaded by Russia.
Russia is an aggressor nation and is a threat to it's neighbors.

The U.S. guaranteed Ukraine that if it gave up it's nukes, that Russia would respect Ukraine's sovereignty.
Both Russia and the U.S. agreed.

Posted by: Speller at November 21, 2024 11:45 AM (pSotA)

189 Does anyone really believe that transgenderism is anything other than mental illness? Is cutting the genitals off children normal human behavior?

This shit has to stop.

https://tinyurl.com/mt6w7rb7
Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2024 11:32 AM (LkLld)

All signs so far are that rather than pulling back, the Dem Party is going to choose Transgenderism as their hill to die on. They made a huge mistake in inviting the crazies and mentally ill perverts into their party; now, in the wake of the lost,it appears that most of the moderate dems remaining are disgusted with the process, while the crazies are going ballistic and using this as the moment to seize all remaining positions of power in the Dem Party.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2024 11:41 AM (wyMQY)

__________

I agree although think the crazies and perverts were always in the Democrap party. They were always a main demographic of their base. It's just that more recently, they crawled out of the deep dank putrid recesses of the party to seize center stage.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 21, 2024 11:45 AM (iFTx/)

190 Nations join NATO because Russia is a rapacious aggressor.
Russia stops being an aggressor and they have nothing to worry about.

Posted by: Speller at November 21, 2024 11:30 AM (pSotA)

This is a one-sided view of history.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 21, 2024 11:45 AM (d9fT1)

191
The UK can have Ellen Degeneres as long as they promise to not deport her back to us.

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 21, 2024 11:46 AM (+oR7L)

192 "The U.S. guaranteed that Russia would" is also hilarious.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the missing 13M votes are more proof of the 2020 fraud at November 21, 2024 11:47 AM (4+VMV)

193 All signs so far are that rather than pulling back, the Dem Party is going to choose Transgenderism as their hill to die on. They made a huge mistake in inviting the crazies and mentally ill perverts into their party; now, in the wake of the lost,it appears that most of the moderate dems remaining are disgusted with the process, while the crazies are going ballistic and using this as the moment to seize all remaining positions of power in the Dem Party. This is playing out in the microcosm of BlueSky, the platform where the left is building its base. Any democrat who hints that they want too far in support of the trans agenda is shouted down and banned if they don't shut up. Looks like that is where the entire Dem Party is headed.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2024 11:41 AM (wyMQY)

----------------

[ICYMI from yesterday:

Dems looking toward 2028 poll for party nomination and you won’t BELIEVE who tops the list (doubling down on stupid and failure ... but mostly stupid and failure) -- ]

Red Eagle Politics
@RedEaglePatriot

🚨 BREAKING: Kamala Harris LEADS the FIRST POLL for the 2028 Democrat Nomination I, 41% to 8%

https://is.gd/ZBGyn8

Posted by: ShainS -- We shot them under DOD Directive 5240.01 at November 21, 2024 11:47 AM (8Sovy)

194 175 Ellen DeGenerate has announced that she is fleeing the US and is moving to the UK permanently. I hope she enjoys her new Muslim overlords.

and I'm sure everyone here is heartbroken over the loss.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2024 11:43 AM (wyMQY)

Does this mean Portia DeRossi is back on the market?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at November 21, 2024 11:47 AM (xcxpd)

195 Nations join NATO because Russia is a rapacious aggressor.
-

(thinks back to when Russia asked to join NATO)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the missing 13M votes are more proof of the 2020 fraud at November 21, 2024 11:47 AM (4+VMV)

196 The President that was overthrown was Russia's installed puppet.

Installed though a process called a "democratic election".

Fortunately, Zelensky has dispensed with all that "election" stuff.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 21, 2024 11:47 AM (uxCna)

197 192 "The U.S. guaranteed that Russia would" is also hilarious.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - the missing 13M votes are more proof of the 2020 fraud at November 21, 2024 11:47 AM (4+VMV)

Their first mistake.. they trusted us…

Posted by: tubal at November 21, 2024 11:47 AM (PCK5/)

198 The opportunity Trump and the new Republican Party have at this moment: periods of split, contested control have actually been quite rare in American history; there's good cause to believe that the deep state/uniparty engineered the 50/50 split of the last 30 years to make it easier for them to do what they wanted and loot as much as they could.

Consider that after the American Civil War, the Republican Party, with a few brief breaks, basically ran the country until 1912 and WW1, and then had a resurgence in 20's. Then FDR entered the picture, and Democrats ran the country, with brief breaks, for the next 50 years. Now we have had 30 years of back and forth, but that is an anomaly, and the time is ripe for a 50 year dominance by one of the two sides. And I know who's looking pretty good right now.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2024 11:48 AM (wyMQY)

199 Pushing NATO to Putin's borders?
Nations join NATO because Russia is a rapacious aggressor.
Russia stops being an aggressor and they have nothing to worry about.
Posted by: Speller at November 21, 2024 11:30 AM (pSotA)

Your knowledge of history and political landscape leaves a lot to be desired. Russia was an ally in the war against terror, but as soon as Democrats took over they decided to dust off the Soviet Union scare propaganda. Your "argumentation" is directly from that playlist.

Posted by: runner at November 21, 2024 11:48 AM (V13WU)

200 Ain't I a stinker?

Posted by: Victoria Nuland at November 21, 2024 11:48 AM (Aqu9a)

201 Additionally, Russia is one of the only countries that has forced out the influence of the WEF and its ilk. You don't see them chopping the parts of children or catering to pedos or gay crap.

Putin is guilty of a lot of things and no saint, but he puts Russia first and is not willing to it turn into a playground for the WEF.

Posted by: Dandolo at November 21, 2024 11:48 AM (3QsZU)

202 152 Rob Reiner Drives Himself Bonkers Post-Election, Checks Into a 'Facility'

Posted by: Jon Stewart at November 21, 2024 11:36 AM (RHGPo)

A fat farm ?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 21, 2024 11:48 AM (IyPmt)

203 Is Operation Barbarossa the new Covid for the Deep State Junta?
They still have 2 months to to "save democracy".

Posted by: DAN at November 21, 2024 11:48 AM (wDLi3)

204 165 HAs Rob Reiner done anything worth a shit since Spinal Tap?
----------------
Walz of Wall Street was hilarious. Pay no attention to its resemblance to Good Fellows.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 21, 2024 11:49 AM (jFCkp)

205 Does this mean Portia DeRossi is back on the market?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at November 21, 2024 11:47 AM (xcxpd)

--------------

Too late, Rachel Madcow has already proposed to her ...

Posted by: ShainS -- We shot them under DOD Directive 5240.01 at November 21, 2024 11:49 AM (MpEy/)

206
"I guess Regime Change in neighboring countries and turning them into NATO staging ground is seen as Clear and Present Danger to Russia."

So which is it?
Europe isn't paying it's fair share for defending their own nations or they have forces huge enough to stage an invasion of Russia.

Which is it?

Or is it that Ukraine is going to be the staging ground for a U.S. invasion of Russia?

Posted by: Speller at November 21, 2024 11:49 AM (pSotA)

207 Does this mean Portia DeRossi is back on the market?


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No, and even worse she looks like Ellen now.

That poor young lady was so attractive a couple of decades ago.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the missing 13M votes are more proof of the 2020 fraud at November 21, 2024 11:49 AM (4+VMV)

208 It's interesting, watching the Space Affairs videos on YouTube this morning. The Roscosmos launches are getting to the same quality of presentation as SpaceX, including video from the spacecraft all the way to orbit, while NASA launches show simulations once away from the ground.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 21, 2024 11:49 AM (VNX3d)

209 Ellen DeGeneres… peaked as Dory.

Posted by: tubal at November 21, 2024 11:50 AM (PCK5/)

210 "Russia friendly eastern Ukraine"

Collaborators. They're collaborators aiding an invader.
What do you call illegal aliens? Immigrants?
Posted by: Speller at November 21, 2024 11:36 AM (pSotA)


Collaborators?

They started shelling them in 2014. Shortly after we performed a color revolution. It was one of the several reasons for this war.
Posted by: Dandolo at November 21, 2024 11:39 AM (3QsZU)

Ukraine fought the Donbas states in 2014. The Donbas states surrounded the Ukraine army and a quicky cease fire was begged for by Germany to avoid the Ukraine army going into prison camps.

The terms of this cease fire were that the details of self rule of Donbas in Ukraine would be worked out. Germany and France signed that they were guarantors of these terms.

Ukraine refused these discussions and Germany and France did nothing for 8 years. Recently the two countries admitted that they lied and had no intention of making peace, that the intent was to rebuild the Ukrainan army for another attack in the future.

Again, most countries don't see the humor in this sort of action.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 21, 2024 11:50 AM (n7h9X)

211 "The U.S. guaranteed that Russia would" is also hilarious.

There is this process called "ratifying a treaty by the Senate" required to commit the United States to anything.

Hundreds of treaties are currently in force.

The "Budapest Agreement" is not one of them.

Neither is the "Paris Climate Accord".

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 21, 2024 11:50 AM (uxCna)

212 Prince Gabriel is warming up his horn
Posted by: Kindltot
_________

A favorite Deadwood quote: "Lie to me E.B. and Gabriel's trumpets will produce you from the ass of Wu's pigs."

Posted by: Buff Pocoroba at November 21, 2024 11:50 AM (5o8Ef)

213 207 Does this mean Portia DeRossi is back on the market?


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No, and even worse she looks like Ellen now.

That poor young lady was so attractive a couple of decades ago.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - the missing 13M votes are more proof of the 2020 fraud at November 21, 2024 11:49 AM (4+VMV)

The Wall is merciless

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at November 21, 2024 11:50 AM (xcxpd)

214 Russia launched intercontinental ballistic missile during attack on Ukraine, Kyiv says

A recent lefty talking point was that we could start a nuclear war with Russia because their ICBMs don't even work any more.

I assume this launch was to make clear to them that is not true?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2024 11:50 AM (oZhjI)

215 Meathead gets a lot of attention, but I don't understand why. He hasn't accomplished anything noteworthy since 1992.

Posted by: spindrift at November 21, 2024 11:50 AM (OguvZ)

216 Heh...
On my Microsoft news feed. This just "randomly" popped up:
A Step-by-Step Guide to Surviving a Nuclear Attack.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2024 11:51 AM (W/lyH)

217 Ellen agreed that Rob Reiner would ______

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the missing 13M votes are more proof of the 2020 fraud at November 21, 2024 11:51 AM (4+VMV)

218 Ellen DeGenerate has announced that she is fleeing the US and is moving to the UK permanently. I hope she enjoys her new Muslim overlords.

and I'm sure everyone here is heartbroken over the loss.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2024 11:43 AM (wyMQY)
___

This has nothing to do with the election. DeGenerate bought the UK property before the election. She always planned to move there. Her "wife" is a Brit or Aussie or something. I think she was as much chased out as she is voluntarily leaving. She and her wife pissed off everyone in their community.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 21, 2024 11:51 AM (iFTx/)

219 Ellen DeGeneres… peaked as Dory.
Posted by: tubal at November 21, 2024 11:50 AM

Does she realize sharia is coming to the U.K.?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at November 21, 2024 11:51 AM (kTd/k)

220 🚨 BREAKING: Kamala Harris LEADS the FIRST POLL for the 2028 Democrat Nomination I, 41% to 8%

****************************

I read somewhere that you can always tell how much God loves you by how utterly retarded He makes your enemies

May the left go full retard for generations

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Certified Wagshambas Expert at November 21, 2024 11:51 AM (M7vhK)

221 Fuck all of em.
I can literally walk to the U-Haul assembly factory.

If these assholes had spent the last 15 years using the natural monopolies they're standing on to move they'd be done now with no body count.

Posted by: DaveA at November 21, 2024 11:51 AM (FhXTo)

222 Going back to WW3 - Putin should build a paint MOAB, and use it on Kiev - or however it's spelled this week. 20,000 lbs. of paint would create an impression.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 21, 2024 11:52 AM (VNX3d)

223 Why, speller, is it irrelevant the US is corrupt? If you truly believe the US is as corrupt as Ukraine, then why advocate a very corrupt government suddenly decide to honor a "promise" to another corrupt government?

This is a stupid position, in the extreme. This is no sort of argument for the US getting involved and pushing to escalate things.

Still have to laugh at the idea speller admits both Ukraine and the US are corrupt, yet, somehow their motives against big bad Russia are pure.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 21, 2024 11:52 AM (tT6L1)

224 The problem with that is obvious...nobody knows what is next, particularly with the Biden/Obama junta making reckless decisions.

What's obvious to me is Jugears gang is filled with narcissistic retards. I appreciate the classic CBD surgical sarcasm sir.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Justice for Peanut at November 21, 2024 11:52 AM (F3SmE)

225 201 You don't see them chopping the parts of children or catering to pedos or gay crap.

Chopping parts of pedos is considered acceptable though.

Posted by: NR Pax at November 21, 2024 11:52 AM (lXoJ5)

226 Red Eagle Politics
@RedEaglePatriot

🚨 BREAKING: Kamala Harris LEADS the FIRST POLL for the 2028 Democrat Nomination I, 41% to 8%

https://is.gd/ZBGyn8
Posted by: ShainS -- We shot them under DOD Directive 5240.01 at November 21, 2024 11:47 AM (8Sovy)

It's just name recognition - were they gonna pick Hillary, or 84 year old Pelosi? They have no idea who will even be running. Thanks to the MSM lying, Newsome has zero support outside of California, and Whitmer has zero support outside of Michigan. And Pritzker of Illinois should wear a floating suit and do a Baron Harkonnen imitiation.

My early guess is that Wes Moore of Maryland is who they'll eventually settle on, but none of the voters even knows who he is yet.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2024 11:52 AM (wyMQY)

227 219 Ellen DeGeneres… peaked as Dory.
Posted by: tubal at November 21, 2024 11:50 AM

Does she realize sharia is coming to the U.K.?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at November 21, 2024 11:51 AM (kTd/k)

She would look good in the Hijab Baggie…

Posted by: tubal at November 21, 2024 11:52 AM (PCK5/)

228 Use something that can get KEEEEEEEEV, Pfizer, and all the other pharmaceutical companies doing terrible things in that nation.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the missing 13M votes are more proof of the 2020 fraud at November 21, 2024 11:52 AM (4+VMV)

229 Heh...
On my Microsoft news feed. This just "randomly" popped up:
A Step-by-Step Guide to Surviving a Nuclear Attack.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2024 11:51 AM (W/lyH)

I've got the space under my desk all prepared.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 21, 2024 11:53 AM (Aqu9a)

230 Or is it that Ukraine is going to be the staging ground for a U.S. invasion of Russia?

I love how this is both a crazy insane thing only stupid Vlad could dream up

AND

a recurring theme on lefty forums and hell FNM newscasts.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2024 11:53 AM (oZhjI)

231 I read somewhere that you can always tell how much God loves you by how utterly retarded He makes your enemies


True Dat

Posted by: ISRAEL at November 21, 2024 11:53 AM (wDLi3)

232 A recent lefty talking point was that we could start a nuclear war with Russia because their ICBMs don't even work any more.

I assume this launch was to make clear to them that is not true?


Which is why I think the next step is a nuclear test - they say Russia's nukes don't work as well.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 21, 2024 11:53 AM (uxCna)

233 HAs Rob Reiner done anything worth a shit since Spinal Tap?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 21, 2024

***
Bucket List
, maybe?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 21, 2024 11:54 AM (J2vNu)

234 I do think that a fair amount of Russia hatred is their opposition to GloboHomo/ Globo/Lesbian…

Posted by: tubal at November 21, 2024 11:54 AM (PCK5/)

235 Ugh. Of course this means our Top Men will need to start shooting things and blowing up nukes, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the missing 13M votes are more proof of the 2020 fraud at November 21, 2024 11:54 AM (4+VMV)

236 No, and even worse she looks like Ellen now.

That poor young lady was so attractive a couple of decades ago.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - the missing 13M votes are more proof of the 2020 fraud at November 21, 2024 11:49 AM (4+VMV)

Let's not even mention what Anne Heche looks like.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2024 11:54 AM (wyMQY)

237 And another.

https://tinyurl.com/4hkbxx93

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2024 11:55 AM (LkLld)

238 >>> 219 Ellen DeGeneres… peaked as Dory.
Posted by: tubal at November 21, 2024 11:50 AM

Does she realize sharia is coming to the U.K.?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at November 21, 2024 11:51 AM (kTd/k)

Magic 8 Ball says "AYFKM?"

I would bet her last words will be "But I'm an ALLY!" as she is falling along the side of the building.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 21, 2024 11:55 AM (KcwUg)

239 Additionally, Russia is one of the only countries that has forced out the influence of the WEF and its ilk. You don't see them chopping the parts of children or catering to pedos or gay crap.

Putin is guilty of a lot of things and no saint, but he puts Russia first and is not willing to it turn into a playground for the WEF.

Posted by: Dandolo at November 21, 2024 11:48 AM (3QsZU)

-----------------

As a number of commenters here pointed out yesterday -- and also Glenn Greenwald and Tucker Carlson in their recent interview (two hours, but worth a watch): the only rational actor and "adult in the room" in this war has been Putin -- and get this -- WE'RE RELYING ON HIS RESTRAINT to avoid the World War III provocation.

Get that through your skulls filled with mush ...

[Tucker interview with Greenwald:]
youtube.com/watch?v=AKh4txSD0eQ

Posted by: ShainS -- We shot them under DOD Directive 5240.01 at November 21, 2024 11:55 AM (MpEy/)

240 It's getting cold enough to test your frosticles down here in the south. NO LIKEY!

Posted by: banana Dream at November 21, 2024 11:55 AM (Y6IkP)

241 HAs Rob Reiner done anything worth a shit since Spinal Tap?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 21, 2024

***
Bucket List, maybe?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 21, 2024 11:54 AM (J2vNu
-----------
Stand By Me. The Princess Bride.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at November 21, 2024 11:55 AM (z0QHk)

242 Does this mean Portia DeRossi is back on the market?


-

No, and even worse she looks like Ellen now.

That poor young lady was so attractive a couple of decades ago.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - the missing 13M votes are more proof of the 2020 fraud at November 21, 2024 11:49 AM (4+VMV)
____

The Wall is undefeated. Although, I don't think de Rossi looks bad at all. She's not fat, she's not plastic-ed up. She looks like an attractive 50-year-old lady. It's not realistic for a 50-year-old to look like she did at 25.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 21, 2024 11:55 AM (iFTx/)

243 161
‘ Dem Party is going to choose Transgenderism as their hill to die on’

This is their most odious and unreasonable position and they’re setting it in cement. I guess they didn’t think there were enough Republican voters.
Whatever else they may be, ‘Rats are definitely masochists.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 21, 2024 11:55 AM (jbnUc)

244
(thinks back to when Russia asked to join NATO)

That would be like Al Capone joining the Chicago Police Department.

"Russia was an ally in the war against terror,"

Russia trained the terrorists.
Russia taught them to hijack planes.
Russia trained the IRA, Black September, the Red Brigades, Hizb-allah...etc.

Posted by: Speller at November 21, 2024 11:55 AM (pSotA)

245 "Russia friendly eastern Ukraine"

Collaborators. They're collaborators aiding an invader.
What do you call illegal aliens? Immigrants?
Posted by: Speller at November 21, 2024 11:36 AM (pSotA)


are you also upset about all those negros and mexicans who voted for Trump?

Posted by: Kindltot at November 21, 2024 11:55 AM (D7oie)

246 Going back to WW3 - Putin should build a paint MOAB, and use it on Kiev - or however it's spelled this week. 20,000 lbs. of paint would create an impression.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 21, 2024 11:52 AM (VNX3d)

That'll make a helluva pretty picture!

Posted by: Oddball at November 21, 2024 11:56 AM (Aqu9a)

247 I do think that a fair amount of Russia hatred is their opposition to GloboHomo/ Globo/Lesbian…
Posted by: tubal

-

I think that's the bulk of it.

Democrats lurved Russia right up until they said "You know, we don't think we want your gay men buying our young boys to adopt and rape any longer."

The moment they cut that abortion pipeline off the left began wanting nuclear war with them.

(goes to see when Hillary's "reset" button photo-op was)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the missing 13M votes are more proof of the 2020 fraud at November 21, 2024 11:56 AM (4+VMV)

248 Which is why I think the next step is a nuclear test - they say Russia's nukes don't work as well.

Vlad is an interesting position here. He knows peace is about a month away and the Junta will try hard to start WWIII before that month is up.

While a nuke test would prove the point you mention it would also generate the wrong sort of attention to him.

Unfortunately these are "interesting times" so who know what he'll choose

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2024 11:56 AM (oZhjI)

249 Lefty talking points about war are as valid as the artfulness of a swirling dog turd.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 21, 2024 11:56 AM (jyAD3)

250 There is only so much coincidence... We really knew on some level new Jussie news would be forthcoming.

>Chicago Sun Times, 'Records: Former Michelle Obama aide, Smollett relative reached out to Kim Foxx' By Andy Grimm Mar 13, 2019

>Soup (dot) io - News, 'Bodkin Barack And Michelle Obama: Expanded Netflix Content Deal' By Trevor Downs, November 20, 2024

The ^political disruptors were noted/mentioned all over evening msm 'news' last evening, as was FJB giving a medal to Cecile Richards, former head of Planned Parenthood.

>OSV News, 'Biden awards Cecile Richards the Presidential Medal of Freedom'

FFS

Posted by: L - Rooster today, feather duster tomorrow. But not w/o a fight. at November 21, 2024 11:56 AM (NFX2v)

251 I do think that a fair amount of Russia hatred is their opposition to GloboHomo/ Globo/Lesbian…
Posted by: tubal at November 21, 2024 11:54 AM (PCK5/)
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I've mentioned in the past, I think the Russia hate truly started when those two perverts adopted a Russian child, pimped the kid out and Putin ended American adoption of Russian children.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 21, 2024 11:56 AM (tT6L1)

252 Remember when we used to have the Nuclear Clock? And they would report on how close we were to nuclear war? Good times.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 21, 2024 11:57 AM (gfViB)

253 Considering Trump crush their Blue Wall why would anyone believe they could successfully invade Russia and sever it into many pieces? Cereally.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 21, 2024 11:57 AM (jFCkp)

254 The nice thing with roscosmos is that you do not have to wait for the end of the flight to see the reentry, sometimes the reentry is a surprise for everyone!

Posted by: N at November 21, 2024 11:57 AM (8XibL)

255 So they actually did overturn Juicy Smollett's conviction ?

Unfrigginbelievable

Posted by: It's me donna at November 21, 2024 11:57 AM (IyPmt)

256 Posted by: Speller at November 21, 2024 11:55 AM (pSotA)

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You don't know history. Move on, please.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 21, 2024 11:57 AM (jyAD3)

257 Russia's ICBM message was likely directed not at *biden, but at his handlers and the yahoo's in the IC/MIC/DoD who think starting WWIII will save them from Trump.

Putin knows *biden's not in command. Of anything. I mean, we know it. His next act, if Lil' Z keeps popping off rockets will probably be to take out those precious ATACMS launchers. Bigly.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 21, 2024 11:57 AM (Q4IgG)

258
... while NASA launches show simulations once away from the ground.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf


To be fair, once you've staged six landings and one compromised mission to the moon, you've created a pretty well-worn path -- simulations -- to follow for all your future "manned missions" work.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 21, 2024 11:57 AM (uRZZ/)

259 Although, I don't think de Rossi looks bad at all. She's not fat, she's not plastic-ed up. She looks like an attractive 50-year-old lady. It's not realistic for a 50-year-old to look like she did at 25.
Posted by: Elric The Blade

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It's not her age that's the problem. It's the lesbian:

https://tinyurl.com/5h32rwrt

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the missing 13M votes are more proof of the 2020 fraud at November 21, 2024 11:58 AM (4+VMV)

260 Elvis joined Nixon's anti-drug task force, right there in the Oval Office. Got pictures, a badge, and everything!

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 21, 2024 11:58 AM (Aqu9a)

261 I thought that Reiner was going to set himself on fire if Trump won.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 21, 2024 11:42 AM (uxCna)

I thought Bono was going to drive off of a cliff. Maybe he meant "metaphorically".

Posted by: hobbitopoly at November 21, 2024 11:58 AM (k9OZB)

262 I think it’s obvious Putin is just sending a message that he could send an nuclear ICBM if Russia chose to. A clear warning to not send missiles into Russia again.

IMO from the beginning Putin has chosen to try to win the war by attrition rather than sending the full might of the Russian military.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 21, 2024 11:10 AM (D6PGr)
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Still theater. Everyone is jockeying for position. Putin isn't going to launch anything of significance. He cannot afford to. He has sent most of the full weight against Ukraine and has made small progress along the defensive lines at huge casualty ratio losses. It is easier for Ukraine to defend that to attack. In the end, Russia will win the attrition game because they have more soldiers to throw into the meat grinder.

Posted by: Black JEM at November 21, 2024 11:58 AM (GZYu7)

263 I've mentioned in the past, I think the Russia hate truly started when those two perverts adopted a Russian child, pimped the kid out and Putin ended American adoption of Russian children.
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The big riff was caused by Manhattan and London attempting to buy Russia via Yeltsin.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 21, 2024 11:58 AM (jFCkp)

264 the only rational actor and "adult in the room" in this war has been Putin -- and get this -- WE'RE RELYING ON HIS RESTRAINT to avoid the World War III provocation.


Yeah, I'm surprised there was no reaction to Biden blowing up his oil pipeline for example.

I do wonder if the plan is to bring and bring a civil and criminal complaint on that one after Biden is gone and the war is over?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2024 11:58 AM (oZhjI)

265 >>> Stand By Me. The Princess Bride.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at November 21, 2024 11:55 AM (z0QHk)

This Is Spinal Tap

Posted by: banana Dream at November 21, 2024 11:59 AM (Y6IkP)

266 219 Ellen DeGeneres… peaked as Dory.
Posted by: tubal at November 21, 2024 11:50 AM

Does she realize sharia is coming to the U.K.?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at November 21, 2024 11:51 AM (kTd/k)

Shhhh. It's a surprise.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at November 21, 2024 11:59 AM (xcxpd)

267 I do think that a fair amount of Russia hatred is their opposition to GloboHomo/ Globo/Lesbian…
Posted by: tubal

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I think that's the bulk of it.

Democrats lurved Russia right up until they said "You know, we don't think we want your gay men buying our young boys to adopt and rape any longer."

The moment they cut that abortion pipeline off the left began wanting nuclear war with them.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the missing 13M votes are more proof of the 2020 fraud at November 21, 2024 11:56 AM (4+VMV)
_________________

Yes, plus Putin and Russia till value alpha manliness and strength. They hit back when hit. That's totally verboten in today's weak, whiny, femmy femboy Dumocrap party.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 21, 2024 11:59 AM (iFTx/)

268 de

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It's not her age that's the problem. It's the lesbian:

https://tinyurl.com/5h32rwrt



She's not very committed to that ot a hypergamy thing

How.much you got?

Posted by: N at November 21, 2024 11:59 AM (8XibL)

269
"Still have to laugh at the idea speller admits both Ukraine and the US are corrupt, yet, somehow their motives against big bad Russia are pure."

Here, let me set fire to your strawman.
My position isn't that Ukraine and the U.S. are pure.
It's that Russia is the aggressor. The invader.

Posted by: Speller at November 21, 2024 11:59 AM (pSotA)

270 Make it a Dance Fever and I'm in!
Posted by: Deney Terrio

True Team Leaders Must Consider the Impact on Teammates of Doing the Trump Dance

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What is this? Footloose?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at November 21, 2024 11:59 AM (L/fGl)

271 So they actually did overturn Juicy Smollett's conviction ?

Unfrigginbelievable


And they waited until the election was over to issue the ruling.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 21, 2024 11:59 AM (uxCna)

272 IMO from the beginning Putin has chosen to try to win the war by attrition rather than sending the full might of the Russian military.
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He just had to wait for Biden to be unmasked. The whole world is watching and some of them can do math.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 21, 2024 12:00 PM (jFCkp)

273 So which is it?
Europe isn't paying it's fair share for defending their own nations or they have forces huge enough to stage an invasion of Russia.

Which is it?

Or is it that Ukraine is going to be the staging ground for a U.S. invasion of Russia?
Posted by: Speller at November 21, 2024 11:49 AM (pSotA)

No, Europe is not paying its fair share and No, they do not have the military force to stage an invasion into Russia. They don't have the weapons to even practice with all of the units in their laughably small forces at the same time.

If the US joined the war we might be able to start a fight, but we would run out of ammunition almost instantly, and the war has already shown that our equipment isn't markedly better than Russians, and we have no real answer to the air defense and drone forces being improved daily by Russia.

In WWII the Germans and Russians had millions of ground troops in the area on each side and still had a fluid front, first for the Germans pushing east and then for the Russians the other way.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 21, 2024 12:00 PM (n7h9X)

274 Odd they removed nuclear warheads and placed a conventional warhead on an ICBM. I would think they would want to keep their stocks up. Wonder if they used a decommissioned one. I guess a few folks crapped their pants at NORAD.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 21, 2024 12:00 PM (jkyX4)

275 Still theater. Everyone is jockeying for position. Putin isn't going to launch anything of significance. He cannot afford to.

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Dear Vlad,

This opinion is an opinion and holds no weight in the real world with anyone. Please don't take it as a challenge.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the missing 13M votes are more proof of the 2020 fraud at November 21, 2024 12:00 PM (4+VMV)

276 do think that a fair amount of Russia hatred is their opposition to GloboHomo/ Globo/Lesbian…
Posted by: tubal at November 21, 2024 11:54 AM (PCK5/)

The Left doesn't give a shit about fags. Or women. Or blacks.

Posted by: ... at November 21, 2024 12:00 PM (tjmEP)

277 I've got the space under my desk all prepared.
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 21, 2024 11:53 AM (Aqu9a)


How ironic!
Under my desk is where my stash of buffalo trace is located!

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2024 12:01 PM (W/lyH)

278 y removed nuclear warheads and placed a conventional warhead on an ICBM. I would think they would want to keep their stocks up. Wonder if they used a decommissioned one. I guess a few folks crapped their pants at NORAD




What is prompt global strike for $100

Posted by: N at November 21, 2024 12:01 PM (8XibL)

279 266 219 Ellen DeGeneres… peaked as Dory.
Posted by: tubal at November 21, 2024 11:50 AM

Does she realize sharia is coming to the U.K.?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at November 21, 2024 11:51 AM (kTd/k)

Shhhh. It's a surprise.
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Snort.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 21, 2024 12:01 PM (jFCkp)

280 219 Ellen DeGeneres… peaked as Dory.
Posted by: tubal at November 21, 2024 11:50 AM

Does she realize sharia is coming to the U.K.?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at November 21, 2024 11:51 AM (kTd/k)

Shhhh. It's a surprise.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at November 21, 2024 11:59 AM (xcxpd)

Frankly, its the actual government of the UK that is the problem more than Sharia right now.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 21, 2024 12:02 PM (n7h9X)

281 The state’s highest court ruled that a special prosecutor should not have been allowed to intervene after the Cook County state’s attorney initially dropped charges against Smollett

Two Americas.

One where the connected get off scot free after committing felonies

One where people that aren't party of the party get years in jail for peaceful protest

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2024 12:02 PM (oZhjI)

282 Oh the other thing that lib I was talking to said was that Putin didn't congratulate Trump because Trump owes him lots of favors.

Posted by: ... at November 21, 2024 12:02 PM (tjmEP)

283 because kim foxx, followed her overlord, and dismissed the charges, but Putin is really the problem

Posted by: miguel cervantes at November 21, 2024 12:02 PM (pGTZo)

284 I do think that a fair amount of Russia hatred is their opposition to GloboHomo/ Globo/Lesbian…

Posted by: tubal at November 21, 2024 11:54 AM (PCK5/)

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It can all be traced back to Hillary's failed "Reset" and being bitch-slapped / publicly humiliated by Putin after her participation in the attempted 2011 color revolution in Moscow (CIA and State Department-sponsored protests with claims of -- get this -- RIGGED ELECTIONS!) -- followed by being blamed by Hillary for the 2016 hack of the DNC Email Server (NOTE: His Name Was Seth Rich and he was Murdered For It).

Which set the stage for the fake (now 9-year-long) Russia! Russia! Russia! PsyOp.

Posted by: ShainS -- We shot them under DOD Directive 5240.01 at November 21, 2024 12:02 PM (MpEy/)

285 271 So they actually did overturn Juicy Smollett's conviction ?

Unfrigginbelievable

And they waited until the election was over to issue the ruling.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 21, 2024 11:59 AM (uxCna)

I suppose in the big picture it doesn't really matter. His career is over, he's going to be nothing but a punchline for the rest of his life, and the candidate (Kamala) that he was apparently trying to help is also gone for good. So, whatever, it doesn't matter anymore.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2024 12:02 PM (wyMQY)

286 >>Here, let me set fire to your strawman.
My position isn't that Ukraine and the U.S. are pure.
It's that Russia is the aggressor. The invader.

Your position is wrong.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2024 12:02 PM (LkLld)

287 I've got the space under my desk all prepared.
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 21, 2024 11:53 AM (Aqu9a)


How ironic!
Under my desk is where my stash of buffalo trace is located!
Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2024 12:01 PM (W/lyH)

Your safe space is well prepared!

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 21, 2024 12:02 PM (Aqu9a)

288 Here, let me set fire to your strawman.
My position isn't that Ukraine and the U.S. are pure.
It's that Russia is the aggressor. The invader.
Posted by: Speller at November 21, 2024 11:59 AM (pSotA)


I don't argue with idiots who think the narrative trumps reality.
go get a new hash and invent a new nic. Again.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 21, 2024 12:02 PM (D7oie)

289 removed nuclear warheads and placed a conventional warhead on an ICBM. I would think they would want to keep their stocks up. Wonder if they used a decommissioned one. I guess a few folks crapped their pants at NORAD

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What is prompt global strike for $100
Posted by: N

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the world knows that one side's works.

(remembers images of our troops walking around in high heels and that ship commander posing while looking through a backward scope)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the missing 13M votes are more proof of the 2020 fraud at November 21, 2024 12:02 PM (4+VMV)

290 The Left doesn't give a shit about fags. Or women. Or blacks.
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They do care for their Light Infantry but not that much.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 21, 2024 12:02 PM (jFCkp)

291 To the Democrat leaders, and NGOs in “sanctuary” states and cities: as Trump's border Tsar Tom Homan has pointed out Federal Law makes it a felony to “harbor” an illegal alien. Harbor means to shelter or feed an illegal alien. IT IS A SEPRATE FELONY FOR EACH ILLEGAL ALIEN YOU HARBOR. Homan is going to arrest you, and the Trump DOJ is going to prosecute you, and you will go to prison for your criminal actions.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 21, 2024 12:03 PM (Da7Vv)

292
"are you also upset about all those negros and mexicans who voted for Trump?"

I'm glad President Trump won. He won in 2020.
The election was stolen by the Democrats back then.

Posted by: Speller at November 21, 2024 12:03 PM (pSotA)

293 277 I've got the space under my desk all prepared.
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 21, 2024 11:53 AM (Aqu9a)


How ironic!
Under my desk is where my stash of buffalo trace is located!
Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2024 12:01 PM (W/lyH)

#Wisdom

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at November 21, 2024 12:03 PM (xcxpd)

294 Putin lacks sophisticated guided munition capability - so in order to take out anything he needs to blanket the area in artillery bombardment, which is traditional Russian/Soviet tactics. The Iranian drones are probably the most dependable targeted weapons he possesses.

Trump comes in and the war's end is already signaled. Ukraine knows the money will dry up, Putin knows his oil revenue is going to dry up. If Putin drops a theater level tactical nuke at this time he will lose all of the SE Ukrainian area he will probably get in any settlement. He will then bide his time for the next feckless democrat administration to give him reason to think he can bite off some more. Though, we can hope that opportunity is beyond Putin's lifetime.

Posted by: Black JEM at November 21, 2024 12:04 PM (GZYu7)

295 I blame NATO for the current situation. The West promised that NATO would not move even one inch. East back in 1992, and they've done nothing but break that promise.

Posted by: Redbanzai at November 21, 2024 12:04 PM (cVPdZ)

296 I've got the space under my desk all prepared.

Veep Throat did some of her best work there you know

Posted by: Willie Brown at November 21, 2024 12:04 PM (oZhjI)

297 Homan is going to arrest you, and the Trump DOJ is going to prosecute you, and you will go to prison for your criminal actions.

STEINER WILL COME

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at November 21, 2024 12:04 PM (Rn7nm)

298 Let's drop charges against an obviously guilty "man" and keep the phoney charges against the newly elected president of the United States

Posted by: It's me donna at November 21, 2024 12:05 PM (IyPmt)

299 236
‘ Let's not even mention what Anne Heche looks like.’

I heard she was smokin’. Is that not true?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 21, 2024 12:05 PM (jbnUc)

300 And, who else is always on Netflix? 🤔 The newest(?):

"Source: OREANDA-NEWS, 02/23/24 -
OREANDA-NEWS President of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky starred in the documentary series of the American streaming platform Netflix "Tipping point: the bomb and the Cold War". The trailer for the nine-part project has been posted on YouTube.

The series will be available for viewing on March 12. The characters will discuss the prerequisites of the Cold War, the creation of a nuclear bomb, the collapse of the USSR and a special military operation (SVO). In the trailer, Zelensky said that Russia considers Ukraine its property.

In addition to the President of Ukraine, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, former CIA Director Robert Gates and former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice will appear in the series. The director of the film, Brian Kippenberger, believes that SVO became one of the consequences of the Cold War.

Earlier, Zelensky declared confidence in his victory in the event of an election. The President believes that people still want to see him in power, but it is currently impossible to hold elections due to the military conflict."

Posted by: L - Rooster today, feather duster tomorrow. But not w/o a fight. at November 21, 2024 12:05 PM (NFX2v)

301 It's that Russia is the aggressor. The invader.

Ukraine has now said that Ukrainian will be the only language of instruction in schools, even in areas that are 100% Russian speaking (or 100% Hungarian speaking).

It is now illegal to sell any printed material in the Russian language in Ukraine - no Russian literature, no technical books in Russian, no books of any kind in Russian, no journals or magazines in Russian.

Treating the very substantial Russian-speaking minority in Ukraine as a despised underclass might be viewed as an aggression in some quarters.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 21, 2024 12:05 PM (uxCna)

302 "OMG why are you attacking targets in our country? This war is supposed to be contained to YOUR country." Screw both of them.

Posted by: Stacy0311 at November 21, 2024 12:05 PM (WBro8)

303 I blame NATO for the current situation. The West promised that NATO would not move even one inch. East back in 1992, and they've done nothing but break that promise.
Posted by: Redbanza

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A NATO representative made a speech in front of NATO at NATO a year or so ago saying, roughly, "Putin wanted our assurances that NATO wouldn't encroach onto his borders and we laughed and said screw you because YOLO"

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the missing 13M votes are more proof of the 2020 fraud at November 21, 2024 12:06 PM (4+VMV)

304 The Left doesn't give a shit about fags. Or women. Or blacks.
Posted by: ... at November 21, 2024 12:00 PM (tjmEP)

Nine year old, however.

Posted by: Dandalo at November 21, 2024 12:06 PM (3QsZU)

305 Odd they removed nuclear warheads and placed a conventional warhead on an ICBM. I would think they would want to keep their stocks up. Wonder if they used a decommissioned one. I guess a few folks crapped their pants at NORAD.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 21, 2024 12:00 PM (jkyX4)

Russia doesn't get rid of stuff. They store it. People were laughing when they shipped into Ukraine old T55s from the 60s. They stopped laughing when they realized that each one of these tanks can shell a position held by infantry just as well as any modern weapon can.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 21, 2024 12:06 PM (n7h9X)

306 If the US joined the war we might be able to start a fight, but we would run out of ammunition almost instantly, and the war has already shown that our equipment isn't markedly better than Russians, and we have no real answer to the air defense and drone forces being improved daily by Russia.

In WWII the Germans and Russians had millions of ground troops in the area on each side and still had a fluid front, first for the Germans pushing east and then for the Russians the other way.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 21, 2024 12:00 PM (n7h9X)
==
If we got involved? We would have immediate air superiority and could quickly isolate every Russian unit in Ukraine proper. It would be ugly and quick. And there is no way in hell we would ever want to do that.

Russia is no longer a first world conventional military force. That has been clearly demonstrated.

Posted by: Black JEM at November 21, 2024 12:07 PM (GZYu7)

307 Ukraine has now said that Ukrainian will be the only language of instruction in schools, even in areas that are 100% Russian speaking (or 100% Hungarian speaking).

The FNM tells me that only providing school in English in the US would be not only racist but a literal crime against humanity.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2024 12:07 PM (oZhjI)

308 Russia doesn't get rid of stuff. They store it. People were laughing when they shipped into Ukraine old T55s from the 60s. They stopped laughing when they realized that each one of these tanks can shell a position held by infantry just as well as any modern weapon can.
Posted by: Oldcat

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Sure, but how do their weapons contractors afford their fourth vacation home?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the missing 13M votes are more proof of the 2020 fraud at November 21, 2024 12:07 PM (4+VMV)

309 The Illinois Supreme Court reversed the conviction of MAGA hate hoaxer Jussie Smollett. Jussie Smollett asked the Illinois Supreme Court to overturn his conviction after the appellate court denied his request.

Posted by: Jon Stewart at November 21, 2024 12:07 PM (RHGPo)

310 Treating the very substantial Russian-speaking minority in Ukraine as a despised underclass might be viewed as an aggression in some quarters.
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Roughly one third of Ukraine. Stalin knew how to conquer.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 21, 2024 12:07 PM (jFCkp)

311 If we got involved? We would have immediate air superiority and could quickly isolate every Russian unit in Ukraine proper. It would be ugly and quick.

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It's pretty to think that, but all that would have to happen is for China to say HI GUYS!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the missing 13M votes are more proof of the 2020 fraud at November 21, 2024 12:08 PM (4+VMV)

312 309 The Illinois Supreme Court reversed the conviction of MAGA hate hoaxer Jussie Smollett. Jussie Smollett asked the Illinois Supreme Court to overturn his conviction after the appellate court denied his request.
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Jeebus, Illinois is such a fucking shithole.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 21, 2024 12:08 PM (jFCkp)

313 309 The Illinois Supreme Court reversed the conviction of MAGA hate hoaxer Jussie Smollett. Jussie Smollett asked the Illinois Supreme Court to overturn his conviction after the appellate court denied his request.
Posted by: Jon Stewart at November 21, 2024 12:07 PM (RHGPo)

Evidently black and gay is a get out of jail free card

Posted by: It's me donna at November 21, 2024 12:08 PM (IyPmt)

314 Fucking men and wars. Go find another planet.

Posted by: just saying at November 21, 2024 12:08 PM (Uy/WF)

315 We can maybe beat Russia. I have my doubts that we could beat China, especially since all they have to do is stop shipping every single thing we need. We absolutely couldn't beat both of them at once.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the missing 13M votes are more proof of the 2020 fraud at November 21, 2024 12:09 PM (4+VMV)

316 ‘ Let's not even mention what Anne Heche looks like.’

I heard she was smokin’. Is that not true?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 21, 2024


***
She *was* . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 21, 2024 12:09 PM (J2vNu)

317 >>‘ Let's not even mention what Anne Heche looks like.’


'That is not dead which can eternal lie. And even in strange aeons, Anne Heche can't die.'

Posted by: garrett at November 21, 2024 12:09 PM (z/jjr)

318 A piece of conceptual art consisting of a simple banana, duct-taped to a wall, sold for $6.2 million at an auction in New York on Wednesday, with the winning bid coming from a prominent cryptocurrency entrepreneur. "Comedian," by Italian artist Maurizio Cattelan, was a phenomenon when it debuted in 2019 at Art Basel Miami Beach, as festivalgoers tried to make out whether the single yellow piece of fruit affixed to a white wall with silver duct tape was a joke or cheeky commentary on questionable standards among art collectors.

... yep .. money laundering

Posted by: Jon Stewart at November 21, 2024 12:09 PM (RHGPo)

319 If we got involved? We would have immediate air superiority and could quickly isolate every Russian unit in Ukraine proper. It would be ugly and quick.



Uh, a bunch of cave dwelling goat fuckers beat our asses and prompted a withdrawal that left TONS of equipment behind.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 21, 2024 12:09 PM (C2k+d)

320 My position isn't that Ukraine and the U.S. are pure.
It's that Russia is the aggressor.

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My position is pax on both their houses.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at November 21, 2024 12:09 PM (L/fGl)

321 Russia doesn't get rid of stuff. They store it. People were laughing when they shipped into Ukraine old T55s from the 60s. They stopped laughing when they realized that each one of these tanks can shell a position held by infantry just as well as any modern weapon can.

One of the things that is painfully obvious from America's recent wars, and America's elites comments on the Uke war, is that our leadership not only doesn't care about not expending too much money on a war, the concept is alien to them.

Why use a dumb bomb when you can use a cool guided one that costs 10X as much?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2024 12:09 PM (oZhjI)

322 "Right before Jeffrey Dahmer was caught, he had so many bodies piled up in his apartment, that he actually stashed one in the bathtub, where he just stood over it everyday for a month to take a shower
Posted by: Mister Ghost"

How is that possible? You would think the neighbors would have noticed the smell

Posted by: Ripley at November 21, 2024 12:10 PM (GUOwU)

323 Evidently black and gay is a get out of jail free card

Also get on TV card

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at November 21, 2024 12:10 PM (Rn7nm)

324 HAs Rob Reiner done anything worth a shit since Spinal Tap?
Posted by: Duke Lowell


Princess Bride.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 21, 2024 12:10 PM (IG4Id)

325 It's that Russia is the aggressor. The invader.
Posted by: Speller at November 21, 2024 11:59 AM (pSotA)

You still won’t say what the stated reasons by Russia were for the invasion. At least do that and tell us why you think those reasons are invalid.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 21, 2024 12:10 PM (D6PGr)

326 315 We can maybe beat Russia. I have my doubts that we could beat China, especially since all they have to do is stop shipping every single thing we need. We absolutely couldn't beat both of them at once.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - the missing 13M votes are more proof of the 2020 fraud at November 21, 2024 12:09 PM (4+VMV)

Yes we have, to date, screwed ourselves in our relations with China. We are an economic client state of China.

Posted by: tubal at November 21, 2024 12:10 PM (PCK5/)

327 We can maybe beat Russia. I have my doubts that we could beat China, especially since all they have to do is stop shipping every single thing we need. We absolutely couldn't beat both of them at once.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - the missing 13M votes are more proof of the 2020 fraud at November 21, 2024 12:09 PM (4+VMV)
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Hollowing out our manufacturing base has strategic consequences. Who knew?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 21, 2024 12:10 PM (tT6L1)

328 The FNM tells me that only providing school in English in the US would be not only racist but a literal crime against humanity.

The EU has very strong protections for minority languages (like the Swedish language in Finland) - apparently Ukraine thinks it can still join the EU while completely suppressing the use of the Russian language in Ukraine.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 21, 2024 12:10 PM (uxCna)

329 >>It's that Russia is the aggressor.


NATO is the aggressor and has been for years.

Posted by: garrett at November 21, 2024 12:11 PM (z/jjr)

330
"The ARC of History! at November 21, 2024 12:05 PM"

You should educate yourself on the history of the Russification of Ukraine.
Part of that involved the Holodomor, the genocide of 11 million Ukrainians in the early 20th century.

Posted by: Speller at November 21, 2024 12:11 PM (pSotA)

331 The FNM tells me that only providing school in English in the US would be not only racist but a literal crime against humanity.
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Most, if not all, of Europe is taught in the local host language. You either learn the language or you flunk out. There is no provision for a host country to provide education in other languages. That's not how assimilation is done.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 21, 2024 12:11 PM (jFCkp)

332 Uh, a bunch of cave dwelling goat fuckers beat our asses and prompted a withdrawal that left TONS of equipment behind.

Honestly it depends on what kind of RoE we would use.

If we went back to say WWII RoE? Then we could probably win, though I suspect most current mid to high level officers would have to be "promoted" to duty back home after a series of embarrassing early losses.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2024 12:11 PM (oZhjI)

333 Majority Democrat Illinois Supreme Court Overturns Jussie Smollett's Conviction Because He's a Black, Hollywood Fag Who Hates MAGA

Posted by: guy who want to write truthful headlines at November 21, 2024 12:11 PM (6i2+X)

334 Putin lacks sophisticated guided munition capability - so in order to take out anything he needs to blanket the area in artillery bombardment, which is traditional Russian/Soviet tactics. The Iranian drones are probably the most dependable targeted weapons he possesses.

Trump comes in and the war's end is already signaled. Ukraine knows the money will dry up, Putin knows his oil revenue is going to dry up. If Putin drops a theater level tactical nuke at this time he will lose all of the SE Ukrainian area he will probably get in any settlement. He will then bide his time for the next feckless democrat administration to give him reason to think he can bite off some more. Though, we can hope that opportunity is beyond Putin's lifetime.
Posted by: Black JEM at November 21, 2024 12:04 PM (GZYu7)

They have been flying drones and missiles into electrical power generators all over Ukraine and taking out air defense systems and artillery positions for 2 years now. And these are western systems. And you say they don't have precision artillery?

Then why have they not had their guns suppressed by Ukraine the entire war?

Posted by: Oldcat at November 21, 2024 12:11 PM (n7h9X)

335 The Illinois Supreme Court reversed the conviction of MAGA hate hoaxer Jussie Smollett. Jussie Smollett asked the Illinois Supreme Court to overturn his conviction after the appellate court denied his request.

... they used the same reasoning that got Bill Cosby off ...
there was an agreement

Posted by: Jon Stewart at November 21, 2024 12:11 PM (RHGPo)

336 240 It's getting cold enough to test your frosticles down here in the south. NO LIKEY!
Posted by: banana Dream

Get used to it! It's the fourth winter of illness and death for the unvaccinated!

Posted by: Joey Forty-Six at November 21, 2024 12:11 PM (nS6qG)

337 Any link to the AI video of Kamala drinking driving, trump with a blunt, Putin et all?

Web search YouTube search useless.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at November 21, 2024 12:12 PM (Rn7nm)

338 That's not how assimilation is done.

Another thing the FNM tells me is racist and a literal crime against humanity.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 21, 2024 12:12 PM (oZhjI)

339 Nood. Rob Reiner.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 21, 2024 12:12 PM (kgE5c)

340 Yes we have, to date, screwed ourselves in our relations with China. We are an economic client state of China.
Posted by: tubal
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Just thinking about it gives me a headache. I'm going to go take a pain reliever.

(looks at where the pain reliever is made)

DANGIT!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the missing 13M votes are more proof of the 2020 fraud at November 21, 2024 12:12 PM (4+VMV)

341 My position is pax on both their houses.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at November 21, 2024 12:09 PM (L/fGl)

It’s seems though we are given billions to just one of those houses to protect their border when we are allowing an invasion at our own border.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 21, 2024 12:12 PM (D6PGr)

342 El Jefe has posted.

Posted by: Dad of Six at November 21, 2024 12:12 PM (mPLkn)

343 You know who isn’t pure enough on the troon issue? Sarah Mcbride.

https://is.gd/BEH0nz

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Not that these people are crazy or anything.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at November 21, 2024 12:13 PM (L/fGl)

344 * insert profound comment about Prometheus here *

Posted by: AI Chatbot at November 21, 2024 12:13 PM (JsD5q)

345 248
‘ Unfortunately these are "interesting times" so who know what he'll choose’

Putin will make the sensible decision to wait for Trump to take office and see what that peace proposal looks like.
I personally hope Trump is tough but fair. Russia shouldn’t get any territory that isn’t made up of ethnic Russians.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 21, 2024 12:13 PM (jbnUc)

346 >>It's that Russia is the aggressor.


NATO is the aggressor and has been for years.
Posted by: garrett at November 21, 2024 12:11 PM (z/jjr)

You also need to count the various 'color' coups and revolutions in other neighbors of Russia that popped up due to western meddling.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 21, 2024 12:15 PM (n7h9X)

347 You should educate yourself on the history of the Russification of Ukraine.

So the Russians living in Eastern Ukraine aren't legitimate inhabitants of Eastern Ukraine?

Would it be OK to expel them?

Part of that involved the Holodomor, the genocide of 11 million Ukrainians in the early 20th century.

The Soviet famine that occurred was not limited to Ukraine - the lower Volga region in Russia suffered just as badly, and Kazakhstan suffered worse.

It was bad agricultural policy - not a deliberate targeting of Ukraine.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 21, 2024 12:15 PM (uxCna)

348 My position isn't that Ukraine and the U.S. are pure.
It's that Russia is the aggressor.

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My position is pax on both their houses.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at November 21, 2024 12:09 PM (L/fGl)

Russia is no more the aggressor then Ukraine or the US are.
Ukraine and the US are just able to throw their rocks and then
hide their hand because they have a press willing to blame
Russia.

Posted by: Redbanzai at November 21, 2024 12:15 PM (cVPdZ)

349 21
non aesthetic things

Right before Jeffrey Dahmer was caught...
Posted by: Mister Ghost

I took classes at a facility in close proximity to the normal looking house for years, including around the time Dahmer was caught.

One would never expect the horror.

Posted by: L - Rooster today, feather duster tomorrow. But not w/o a fight. at November 21, 2024 12:17 PM (NFX2v)

350 We can maybe beat Russia. I have my doubts that we could beat China, especially since all they have to do is stop shipping every single thing we need. We absolutely couldn't beat both of them at once.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - the missing 13M votes are more proof of the 2020 fraud at November 21, 2024 12:09 PM (4+VMV)
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Hollowing out our manufacturing base has strategic consequences. Who knew?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 21, 2024 12:10 PM (tT6L1)

We might be able to sail our boats off its coast for a while, but other than that I don't see a way force a decision on China. You can't sink a continent.

Same rules go for Iran. Also, both them and Russia are working to improve land links in Asia that are impossible to interdict using the Navy.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 21, 2024 12:19 PM (n7h9X)

351 "You still won’t say what the stated reasons by Russia were for the invasion. At least do that and tell us why you think those reasons are invalid."

Putin said the Ukrainians were Nazis.
I reject that the people Ukrainian are members of the national Socialist German Worker's Party.
They aren't even Germans.

Vladimir Putin, however, is a Bolshevik.
He is descended from Bolshevik royalty.

His father was Joseph Stalin's personal cook.
This in a country where poisoning your political opponents is the unofficial national sport./

Posted by: Speller at November 21, 2024 12:22 PM (pSotA)

352 "The ARC of History! at November 21, 2024 12:05 PM"

You should educate yourself on the history of the Russification of Ukraine.
Part of that involved the Holodomor, the genocide of 11 million Ukrainians in the early 20th century.
Posted by: Speller at November 21, 2024 12:11 PM (pSotA)

You mean the Russification of Russia? The Kievan Rus is the origin of the nation of Russia, or one of them. This is like complaining of the Americanization of Ohio, actually Ohio is a better case.

The USSR didn't kill people in Ukraine because they thought they were foreigners. They killed them because they were Russian rich farmers and they wanted to kill rich farmers. Or whatever the Communists wanted to kill today/

Posted by: Oldcat at November 21, 2024 12:25 PM (n7h9X)

353 Putin said the Ukrainians were Nazis.
I reject that the people Ukrainian are members of the national Socialist German Worker's Party.
They aren't even Germans.

Vladimir Putin, however, is a Bolshevik.
He is descended from Bolshevik royalty.

His father was Joseph Stalin's personal cook.
This in a country where poisoning your political opponents is the unofficial national sport./
Posted by: Speller at November 21, 2024 12:22 PM (pSotA)

Oh for gods sake, the Bandarites fought with the SS in WWII and they have Swastikas all over their flags and have other Nazi tattoos. At the opening of the war it was comical that NATO would have a picture of some handsome Ukrainian Azov volunteer or lass and people would start circling the Nazi symbols on the pictures.

Liberal websites before the war were writing features on Nazis in Ukraine. This ended when the war started. The Neocons used and still use these supremacists to control the main UKR army they suspect of Russian sympathies as they got the bulk of western weapons.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 21, 2024 12:30 PM (n7h9X)

354 If we got involved? We would have immediate air superiority and could quickly isolate every Russian unit in Ukraine proper. It would be ugly and quick.



Uh, a bunch of cave dwelling goat fuckers beat our asses and prompted a withdrawal that left TONS of equipment behind.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 21, 2024 12:09 PM (C2k+d)

Russia has spent lots of time on air defense from the ground knowing that the US has aircraft. Ukraine had older versions of these systems and neither side could operate freely until Ukraine lost all their air defense platforms. We likely would get a rude shock if we flippantly assume we can get air supremacy without losses...and how many planes can we lose a month?

Posted by: Oldcat at November 21, 2024 12:35 PM (n7h9X)

355 Ok - this is getting silly - please Oldcat - tell how precise Russian guided munitions are. We know that answer - its not a secret. They use volume. Always have, always will. If their target is mobile, their odds of hitting it are always low.

China is not getting involved, they have zero need or desire to do that. They have way too many internal problems to even consider it. They cannot project power very far away from their country, and their vaunted navy wouldn't survive an engagement with the Japanese let alone us.

This war in Ukraine is going to be ended by Trump. And he is going to tell the ICC to shut up about Israel. The international scene is about to get very quiet again. Thankfully, when it comes to China, Biden in reality didn't do too much to move off of Trump's first term policies, he pretty much just kept doing it, we are bringing manufacturing back to North America, and are using other SE Asian allies to get stuff out of China.

Posted by: Black JEM at November 21, 2024 12:35 PM (GZYu7)

356 One other thing to consider - once Hegseth gets in, our military is going to be worried about getting good at fighting again.

Posted by: Black JEM at November 21, 2024 12:37 PM (GZYu7)

357 Thx CBD. I watch Military Summary on YouTube. He's a Belorussian so he's somewhat pro Russian. However he says never listen to anything you hear unless it's backed up by geolocated videos. The Russians are overrunning just about every strong point in the Donbas and are pushing north out of Saporedzia. The Ukes won't have much left in the way of manpower by the time Trump takes over
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 21, 2024 11:19 AM (/y7Fe)

I'm not big on war porn (live combat footage) so I am down on MS over other alternatives and I have long found that most of his projections of the future are inaccurate. But all the mappers show that :

Ukraine has lost just about all offensive power. They almost never can meet an offensive by Russia head on and even slow it down.

The days of long defenses in towns are over too. A fort like city defense can be obliterated by FAB bombs as long as Russia is willing to damage the area.

Outside of towns Ukraine isn't able to hold ground for long. Russia can find a weak area, even a tree lined road and advance a km or two, then dig in and expand this lodgement as a routine matter. In a week or so these are outflanking the line.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 21, 2024 12:45 PM (n7h9X)

358
"the Bandarites fought with the SS in WWII and they have Swastikas all over their flags"

Ukrainians fought for both sides in WWII.
The Germans were very good at killing Russians, who were the oppressors of the Ukrainians and murdered 11 million of Ukrainians.
It was only natural for Ukrainians to fight alongside the Germans against the Russians.

Posted by: Speller at November 21, 2024 12:53 PM (pSotA)

359
In some U.S. states people have the Confederate flag.
It doesn't make them citizens of the Confederacy nor does it make them Democrats.

Posted by: Speller at November 21, 2024 12:55 PM (pSotA)

360 I don't give a rat's dick about Ukraine or indeed any country in Europe. Fuck them all. If opposing the dastardly vile Putin is so cosmically important, then the Euro countries who have most to lose can fucking oppose him themselves. Not my circus, not my monkeys.

These Euro countries have plenty of money to indulge in every lavish green stupidity and woke nonsense. They can pay for their own defense.







None of these Euro countries are much better than Russia anyway. They oppress and abuse their own citizens. They allow slithering alien CHUDs to rape and murder their young ladies. They steal and graft and thieve and steal.

Maybe we should rethink this whole thing and join forces with Russia to take over all of Europe. Fuck these fuckers once and for all.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 21, 2024 11:08 AM (iFTx/)

This! A thousand times this!
Plus: pull out of NATO and the UN.
Then start arresting members of the ICC and let them discover the American DOJ phenomenon known as: "The Process is the Punishment".

Posted by: waepnedmann at November 21, 2024 03:21 PM (jurm8)

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