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Mollie Hemingway: One Time I Was on CNN and Jim Sciutto Basically Told Me that Former Director of National Security James Clapper Was a Source for the Steele Dossier Leak
James Clapper lied both in a public statement and before Congress that he was not a source for the leak that the Steele Dossier had been paperclipped to the president's intelligence briefing.
He has lied to Congress before -- with impunity. He seems to have lied to Congress again. Will Trump permit him to escape punishment? Anyway: I've known about this since an hour after it happened, seven years ago. I never told anyone about it because, unlike the Gossipy Gerties at CNN, I know how to protect a source. Mollie Hemingway:Back on the roof in January of 2017, Evan Perez was shown on television reading and reporting on Clapper's statement from a remote location. Tapper and his colleagues interpreted the statement as confirmation of their story and a repudiation of Trump's dismissal of the Russia collusion story as false. While Perez's package was airing, and at the point he read Clapper saying that he didn't think the leak came from the intelligence community, Sciutto said that he was pretty sure Clapper knew the leak came from the intelligence community "because ...," he said, trailing off as he rolled his hands suggestively and somewhat like a football referee very slowly calling a false start. He said it for all to hear, though I'm not sure anyone else other than Jake Tapper, who he was sitting to the right of, and I heard and understood. Tapper squeezed Sciutto's left wrist the way my mom used to squeeze my wrist at church when I was being too loud. I interpreted this message roughly as "stop talking you idiot."Now I wasn't there, but it sure seems like Jim Sciutto, "Real Journalist," has loose lips. And you know what loose lips do, don't you? That's right -- they take dick like a champ.
In the following part, Mollie relays how Tapper attempted to mollify her and please her. She told me she felt a odd charge in the air -- like Tapper knew that a major breach had just been committed, and wanted to keep her on CNN's side and get her to keep the secret for them. I remember telling her: That's not evidence in the traditional sense, but I 100% believe in people's ability to pick on other people's anxiousness and their hidden motives. You can't say this is proof like someone admitting it verbally, but in the real world, you can tell when someone is behaving oddly and you can make very strong educated guesses as to what is prompting that odd behavior:
Sciutto was a former Obama administration political appointee in the State Department. It wasn't clear if he was saying that Clapper had leaked to him or one of his three co-authors, a Clapper aide had leaked to CNN, or merely that Clapper knew Comey or one of his aides was leaking to CNN. It may be hard to remember, but at this point in the Russia collusion information operation, people knew almost nothing. Few if any people realized the FBI was corrupt. People didn't even realize Comey's central role running the scam. As far as they knew, and would be told incessantly by Tapper, the intelligence alleging Russia collusion came from a British super spy and was so credible that it was being taken extremely seriously by trustworthy intelligence agencies. Incoming National Security Advisor Mike Flynn had not yet been ousted in an FBI setup that included criminal leaks. Attorney General Jeff Sessions hadn't recused himself from his job after he was leaked against. We didn't know that four affiliates of the Trump campaign had been spied on. We didn't know that the FBI had lied to the FISA Court to get wiretaps on one of them. We didn't know about all of the unmasking and leaking against incoming Trump administration officials. We really knew nothing about how corrupt and political the deep state was. And we didn't yet understand that major media existed almost exclusively as regime mouthpieces, uncritically serving as leak receptacles for the information operations they run against the American people.
After we were done that day, Tapper came up to me on the roof -- something he rarely did when I saw him at CNN -- and told me that he really wanted to get me on his Sunday show. I perceived this as an attempt to keep me quiet about what I had witnessed. It failed, and I began writing immediately about how the dossier story was an information operation being fueled by top officials in the intelligence community. I published "Top-Level Intel Officers' War Against Donald Trump Is Bad For The Country," a few days later. I was able to write that piece, as well as spend the next few years confidently fighting the Russia collusion hoax under unbelievable resistance, because of Jim Sciutto and Jake Tapper's actions that day. I already doubted the Russia collusion hoax because I knew actual Trump voters, but that day I realized that even the authors of the signature Russia collusion article knew that it was an intelligence community leak operation and were uncritically regurgitating it. If I knew enough to do what I did based on that tiny interaction between Jim Sciutto and Jake Tapper, Jake Tapper sure as hell knew enough to not take part in the regime's information operation he promulgated every day for the next few years.
And let's not lose the real lede: James Clapper, who has repeatedly perjured himself before Congress, perjured himself still more in denying that he was the source of the leaks about the Deep State op called RussiaGate.
The rest of the article is about Jake Tapper's attempt to rewrite history and claim, as he did to JD Vance, that he never pushed the Russiagate Hoax, that he was merely "reporting on an FBI investigation." No, Jake, you and your corrupt sources schemed to make the unpublishable Steele Dossier publishable, and you and Comey and Clapper all worked together to create a groundswell for that very investigation. I'll be writing about that in my next Tapper Files. Once again, this is something I've already written on this blog, and only contains one new bit of information. But the general public really needs to know how the media-Deep-State-op sausage is made, not just you very well-informed AoSers.
Holy s*** JD Vance just showed Jake tapper I'm Master class n getting your a** smoked pic.twitter.com/p33BReegPM
— Danny weeks 🇺🇸 (@Tinylilmandingo) October 28, 2024
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: runner at October 29, 2024 12:00 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: runner at October 29, 2024 12:00 PM (V13WU)
It seems like he deserves it, but why not a month ago? A year ago?
What's the sparking event recently?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 12:00 PM (GBKbO)
And you know what loose lips do, don't you?
That's right -- they take dick like a champ.
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Well, all those British posters are wrong, huh?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 12:01 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 29, 2024 12:01 PM (N1DT3)
Posted by: LizLem at October 29, 2024 12:02 PM (QAK8m)
It seems like he deserves it, but why not a month ago? A year ago?
What's the sparking event recently?
the JD Vance "interview" was the last straw. I had planned to do the Tapper files before the CNN debate -- I even bought his book "Down and Dirty: The Plot to Steal the Presidency" to quote from -- but I couldn't get it all together in time for the debate.
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:03 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: BignJames at October 29, 2024 12:03 PM (Yj6Os)
Posted by: Josh Brolin at October 29, 2024 12:03 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Kindltot at October 29, 2024 12:04 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:03 PM (KRtlO)
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Makes sense.
So, how long until Tapper does a special on veterans?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 12:04 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 29, 2024 12:04 PM (QNSds)
Posted by: runner at October 29, 2024 12:04 PM (V13WU)
And when is he going to let us know that he hates Bud Lite?
Posted by: Archimedes at October 29, 2024 12:05 PM (xCA6C)
As sad as it is to say, he would be tried in DC. He has no reason to fear.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 29, 2024 12:05 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 12:05 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: logprof at October 29, 2024 12:05 PM (QmjgE)
Posted by: Skip at October 29, 2024 12:05 PM (i+wP0)
Posted by: Settled Science at October 29, 2024 12:06 PM (yHgWr)
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 29, 2024 12:06 PM (AdHga)
Posted by: jmel at October 29, 2024 12:06 PM (RWHIh)
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:06 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 29, 2024 12:06 PM (uLfN1)
Tapper clearly isn't a journalist, he's a mouthpiece for our corrupt intel community, and he deserves no cover for hiding his equally corrupt and dishonest sources.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 29, 2024 12:06 PM (LkLld)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 29, 2024 12:07 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Grayman27 at October 29, 2024 12:07 PM (pgwxJ)
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How can he be punished? No DC jury would convict.
Posted by: Eeyore at October 29, 2024 12:07 PM (1bNHn)
Posted by: Grayman27 at October 29, 2024 12:07 PM (pgwxJ)
Something like barbed poisonous spiders continually burrowing through his dickhole up through his guts and out his mouth, all the while he's rolled in bacon fat and diseased sewer rats continually chew on his eyeballs.
Nah, I take this back. It's too harsh ... for the spiders and rats.
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 29, 2024 12:07 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: logprof at October 29, 2024
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Mike was competent though
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 29, 2024 12:07 PM (J2vNu)
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Deep State is too busy giving blowjobs to their friends' friends.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 29, 2024 12:07 PM (AdHga)
GASSSSS HIM
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 29, 2024 12:07 PM (rWUdG)
Total coincidence, but not a coincidence: It's because of Tapper's relentless, remorseless lying.
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:08 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 29, 2024 12:08 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:08 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 29, 2024 12:05 PM (ExV1e)
We need to pass a law that all political crimes (and ones involving politicians) are to be tried ANYWHERE other than DC.
But that won't happen because our rulers want it this way.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 29, 2024 12:08 PM (N1DT3)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024
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A lot more time. Hound has the virtue of being exciting.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 29, 2024 12:08 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: It's me donna at October 29, 2024 12:09 PM (IyPmt)
that is a problem. I am a knucklehead.
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:09 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Eeyore at October 29, 2024 12:09 PM (1bNHn)
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at October 29, 2024 12:09 PM (7aURE)
There is going to be SO much rewriting of history in the next 50 years, and what people actually pushed and when they pushed it. Russiagate, targeting Trump, weaponizing the govt against his allies, who supported illegal immigration, Covid fearmongering, settled science, election integrity, trans athletes in women's sports, transitioning trans kids...even the "Trump was trying to kill the fish when he dumped all the food in with his photo op with Abe!"
Lots of rehabbing of journalism needs to happen. Bezos trying to right his sinking Titanic is good, but too late. And in trying to right it, the die hard libs are also fleeing.
Pulitzer noms will be interesting next year. Who judges those things?
Posted by: LizLem at October 29, 2024 12:09 PM (QAK8m)
that is a problem. I am a knucklehead.
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:09 PM (KRtlO)
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Confirmed:
Ace bangs daughters of powerful Chinese Communist Party officials.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 12:10 PM (GBKbO)
I didn't realize he said "GAS" him.
Okay that's not cool dude.
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:10 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 29, 2024 12:10 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: fd at October 29, 2024 12:11 PM (ArbhN)
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at October 29, 2024 12:11 PM (7PziG)
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Now lets talk about the collusion necessary to get China to build a bio bomb, release and spread it worldwide to enable a stolen election paid for by nursing home elderly. I have a source, too.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 29, 2024 12:11 PM (AdHga)
Posted by: logprof at October 29, 2024
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Mike was competent though
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 29, 2024 12:07 PM (J2vNu)
So was clapper. His lies caused the downfall of a president.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 29, 2024 12:11 PM (yHgWr)
He's an extremist!
Brian Stelter@brianstelter
The headline on @StCollinson's latest: "Trump unveils the most extreme closing argument in modern presidential history"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at October 29, 2024 12:11 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 29, 2024 12:11 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 29, 2024 12:11 PM (uLfN1)
I cannot put my finger on a specific point in time or blog, but I had gotten the notion that you somehow had inside information that Clapper was the source of the report that was shopped to CNN to turn the obviously phony Steele dossier into reportable "facts" by CNN.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 29, 2024 12:12 PM (i24o9)
At some point, rehabbing ceases to be a viable option, and only a teardown and complete rebuilding is possible. Our media is at that point. Even the world's 2nd richest man will not be able to revive WaPo. At this point, it's just a security blanket for lefties.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 29, 2024 12:12 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Zeera The people are coming at October 29, 2024 12:12 PM (z7bS4)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 29, 2024 12:12 PM (WnEm5)
Posted by: Holmes at October 29, 2024 12:12 PM (zhWvq)
Posted by: runner at October 29, 2024 12:12 PM (V13WU)
Could not tell who was voting for whom.
My wife missed an entire page of judges to vote no on. But she did well otherwise.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 29, 2024 12:13 PM (u82oZ)
I read your piece yesterday and then read Mollie's today. The bias has gotten so blatant that it is good to remind people about all this. Especially pertinenet as the NYTimes is about to try and smear 30 conservatives and get them booted off YouTube.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 29, 2024 12:13 PM (t/2Uw)
If it were someone other than Mollie, I'd agree. I trust her.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 29, 2024 12:13 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Errorick Errorickson at October 29, 2024 12:13 PM (ArbhN)
I guess that's because I stopped watching CNN around 2004 or so.
Posted by: one hour sober at October 29, 2024 12:13 PM (Y1sOo)
-dances around with hot chocolate
Posted by: Eromero at October 29, 2024 12:13 PM (jgmnb)
Posted by: runner at October 29, 2024 12:13 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 29, 2024 12:14 PM (CIS44)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 29, 2024 12:14 PM (aD39U)
Posted by: Enough Bull at October 29, 2024 12:14 PM (2NXcZ)
it is true, she called me within an hour of it happening. She is writing what she told me then. Including the part about the weird vibe that descended over the set when Sciutto said that. (Though I don't think she mentions that in the article.)
why didn't she report earlier? I think she was worried about the propriety of spilling other people's confidences. I think she wasn't sure of the right thing to do. (I told her: Report it! You owe them nothing!)
But it's kind of a sociopathic skill reporters have to gain people's confidence and then publish their secrets, and I think she was struggling with that sociopathy thing. it doesn't come natural to her.
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:14 PM (KRtlO)
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They also never told you the Covid vaccine would stop Covid--so quit digging up footage of them saying that!
Posted by: Axeman at October 29, 2024 12:14 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 29, 2024 12:11 PM (xcxpd)
Textbook
18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 29, 2024 12:14 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: Zeera The people are coming at October 29, 2024 12:14 PM (z7bS4)
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:14 PM (KRtlO)
Does Buzzfeed still exist? If they did that’s the headline they’d be running.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 29, 2024 12:14 PM (yHgWr)
That's right -- they take dick like a champ.
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Well, all those British posters are wrong, huh?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 12:01 PM (GBKbO)
I would not be suprised to see British posters advocating male on male blowjobs. Perfidious Albion is also pretty pervy.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 29, 2024 12:14 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: runner at October 29, 2024 12:15 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 29, 2024 12:11 PM (uLfN1)
the bitsakcralyle?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 29, 2024 12:15 PM (RdRoZ)
Posted by: Archimedes at October 29, 2024 12:13 PM (xCA6C)
Except when she supports Jen Rubin as a "poor sick woman, leave her alone"
Posted by: Enough Bull at October 29, 2024 12:15 PM (2NXcZ)
Bezos has been coming in second to Musk for awhile now. Musk is richer, has the space area all to himself, and is in the news almost constantly (for good or bad), while Bezos is kind of an afterthought, known mostly for his Latina whore. That's gotta sting.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 29, 2024 12:15 PM (xCA6C)
The unfortunate term in game theory on a strong negotiation stance is Tit for Tat. Basically the Golden Rule for decisions.
We treat them as we are treated.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 29, 2024 12:15 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Archimedes at October 29, 2024 12:12 PM (xCA6C)
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It can't be rehabbed because the idea of an objective press is a historical oddity centered around broadcast licensing and out of alignment with reality.
That time is long gone, and we're just reverting back to the status quo ante when every news source was suspect, at absolute best.
The problem now is no longer the media bias. That's been out in the open at a level that even normies can't deny for more than a decade. The problem is the concentration of the bias in the most widely read and seen sources...a problem in steady process of correcting itself with the explosion of citizen journalism given life by the Internet, briefly muffled by centralization, and given new life by Musk's purchase of X.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 12:15 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 29, 2024 12:11 PM (xcxpd)
Textbook
18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 29, 2024 12:14 PM (i24o9)
Just need an AG with guts to enforce it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 29, 2024 12:15 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Patsy at October 29, 2024 12:15 PM (SWSI9)
Who here fears an interview by Jake Tapper?
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at October 29, 2024 12:15 PM (Z8Yh2)
Posted by: Enough Bull at October 29, 2024 12:14 PM (2NXcZ)
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It's only once you've unburdened yourself of reality that you can embrace the chance that the Jedi mind-trick might just work.
Posted by: Axeman at October 29, 2024 12:15 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 29, 2024 12:16 PM (PDf99)
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:16 PM (KRtlO)
First, should be to nuke the CIA, then do the same to Google,
break the two of them up into a thousand components.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 29, 2024 12:16 PM (TGPs7)
It’s Florida so won’t mean anything, but still nice to see.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 29, 2024 12:16 PM (yHgWr)
Ace, I just don't have time anymore to sit and read for pleasure. Wish I did! I've been listening to books for free from apps like Libby or Hoopla (ties into your library card) when I do tasks like showering and cooking, and it's helping me get through books so much faster. You have the whole NYPL collection at your disposal, lucky ewok, I bet they have an excellent audio collection.
There is an excellent free version of Baskervilles on Youtube! Greg Wagland is a great narrator. It's a 6 hour listen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=7We_HAYds5g
Ok, back to politics...
Posted by: LizLem at October 29, 2024 12:16 PM (QAK8m)
The one thing she mentions that I sort of dislike is this "fraternity" like atmosphere among reporters. Why she felt it necessary to sit on the info for years is.... well, questionable.
Does she not realize how those "on the roof" with her would turn on her in a heartbeat if it suited them?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 29, 2024 12:16 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 29, 2024 12:05 PM (ExV1e)
Honest question: why must there be trials? Can these bastards not be thrown into Gitmo on POTUS orders and held as long as he says so? Give the fuckers the J6 prisoner treatment.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at October 29, 2024 12:16 PM (Q0kLU)
Posted by: Archimedes at October 29, 2024 12:12 PM (xCA6C)
at some point, the cable news shows are going to just be reading EFE releases and running clips from podcasts for the shut-ins and those stranded at airports and casinos with no other option.
I suspect the reading of actual news organization releases will be done by AI generated voice-overs
Posted by: Kindltot at October 29, 2024 12:16 PM (D7oie)
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I have a strong suspicion that it could be tapper hisself.
Posted by: runner at October 29, 2024 12:17 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 12:05 PM
Depends. Is it near the top of the shelf wreckage, or will he have to dig it out?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 29, 2024 12:17 PM (ZANHd)
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at October 29, 2024 12:17 PM (kTd/k)
Posted by: Lacra at October 29, 2024 12:17 PM (4pwAx)
There is an excellent free version of Baskervilles on Youtube! Greg Wagland is a great narrator. It's a 6 hour listen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=7We_HAYds5g
Ok, back to politics...
Posted by: LizLem at October 29, 2024 12:16 PM (QAK8m)
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A couple of my books are on Audible:
https://is.gd/sUVbwO
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 12:17 PM (GBKbO)
yes, as I mentioned in a post above, I have been very forward leaning in asserting it.
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:17 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 29, 2024 12:17 PM (Jiopi)
1) Trump refused national security briefings; despite being entitled to them as candidate
2) Trump started his transition team months ago. Fully privately funded, with a team of outsiders
3) Trump said at the MSG he has a big secret that is helping him win the House bigly.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 29, 2024 12:17 PM (qHqHk)
Like the NYT should have any influence anywhere.
Posted by: BignJames at October 29, 2024 12:18 PM (Yj6Os)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 29, 2024 12:18 PM (WnEm5)
What bothers me is they don't give any specific examples but just break the law, lie and go as far as treason ( Miley) to try to take Trump down.
Why won't the truth of his 'danger' be enough to take Trump down and why won't they reveal it?
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 29, 2024 12:18 PM (ndoNK)
If I’m reading this correctly (which I may well not be), she did tell people—she told Ace, for example, and so probably other people. She probably wanted it to come out first on an obscure military blog somewhere before she was “forced” to confirm the “rumor”.
Which is a bullshit game to play, but that’s DC.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 29, 2024 12:18 PM (EXyHK)
But that won't happen because our rulers want it this way.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
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Easier way is to give back most of the District to Maryland as was the part across the river. Keep only the core of the Mall, government buildings around it, Capitol, WH, Sup. Ct. The second way is to have Congressional hearings out of DC which is and has been done. For example, have hearings about the intel community in somewhere like Tennessee or West Virginia, have FEMA hearings in Florida and Western North Carolina, and so on.
Any lies there will be prosecuted by the local DA and a local grand jury. With most of the district in Maryland, that means that a lot of the petty bureaucracy will now be located in the Eastern District of Maryland for jurisdiction just as the Pentagon and Langley are in the Eastern District of VA.
Fairly simple to strip the insulating bark off the little bastards if you really want to.
Posted by: whig at October 29, 2024 12:18 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at October 29, 2024 12:16 PM (Q0kLU)
there is also the consideration of how much power should be given to jail without trial. There is that Constitution thing, as awkward as John Kerry finds it for his conception of efficient governance.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 29, 2024 12:18 PM (D7oie)
Their real power is in what they don’t say. Like what a Vance mentioned. Trump talks about economics all day every day. But the media doesn’t mention it. So the typical LIV has no idea that’s taking place.
That’s their real power. Because what CNN covers or what NYT covers is what we all talk about. They still fully co York the news cycle whether we like it or not.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 29, 2024 12:18 PM (yHgWr)
Ugh, Archimedes, so true. The brand is ruined and you have to start anew. Democracy dies in darkness... so does WaPo. RIP.
Posted by: LizLem at October 29, 2024 12:19 PM (QAK8m)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 29, 2024 12:19 PM (aD39U)
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How can he be punished? No DC jury would convict.
Posted by: Eeyore at October 29, 2024 12:07 PM (1bNHn)
2nd look at gitmo?
Posted by: Sturmtoddler at October 29, 2024 12:19 PM (nXhwP)
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:17 PM (KRtlO)
I hope that she shared it at least back channel with the Trump admin. It seemed throughout this time that he was a step ahead of these cocksuckers.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 29, 2024 12:19 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: Paco at October 29, 2024 12:19 PM (njExo)
And it is just as corrupt as ever.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 29, 2024 12:19 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: Enough Bull at October 29, 2024 12:20 PM (2NXcZ)
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at October 29, 2024 12:09 PM (7aURE)
I was on the call. Trump phoned Putin and said, "Listen Vlad, I'm in a pickle... see? This Hillary dame is tough, tough as shoe leather. I need an edge. See if you can't scrounge up a few Russian yahoos to make a small ad buy on Facebook that'll be seen by, basically, no one. That'll give me the world."
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 29, 2024 12:20 PM (ExV1e)
Jake is such an annoying douche. that sumg nasally "No, nah".
Do they ever discuss what Harris plans to do when she wins the election, or just sit there and interrupt Vance or other conservatives.
There is a stark difference to their deference.
They are all-in on being Communist propagandists.
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at October 29, 2024 12:20 PM (et1vG)
And Tapper fell into the trap of trying to defend the indefensible.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 29, 2024 12:20 PM (tT6L1)
The headline on @StCollinson's latest: "Trump unveils the most extreme closing argument in modern presidential history"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at October 29, 2024 12:11 PM (L/fGl)
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Well, when Trump said "drill" he did not specify whether it was into the flesh of other human beings.
So that's on him.
Posted by: Axeman at October 29, 2024 12:20 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 29, 2024 12:20 PM (qHqHk)
Posted by: ... at October 29, 2024 12:20 PM (hmOfI)
‘ As sad as it is to say, he would be tried in DC. He has no reason to fear.’
Fuck DC. Ignore whatever horseshit says that and try him somewhere else.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 29, 2024 12:20 PM (jbnUc)
A month ago my name was on local TV, internet, radio, and the local newspaper from a traffic incident. They spelled my name right, but got the details wrong. 2024. 41 years of deliberate incompetence.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 29, 2024 12:20 PM (u82oZ)
https://is.gd/sUVbwO
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 12:17 PM (GBKbO)
How did you do that? How expensive was it?
Shoot me an e-mail, please.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at October 29, 2024 12:21 PM (Q0kLU)
Posted by: Big Don at October 29, 2024 12:21 PM (w9Wax)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 29, 2024 12:20 PM (qHqHk)
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I just know that Rogan talked like no evidence of fraud had ever been discussed publicly before. That Trump was hiding it.
"There's a book about it, dummy."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 12:21 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at October 29, 2024 12:20 PM (et1vG)
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What part of rainbows and unicorns is so hard to get?!
Posted by: Axeman at October 29, 2024 12:21 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: ... at October 29, 2024 12:20 PM (hmOfI)
Mollie and Julie Kelly
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 29, 2024 12:21 PM (CIS44)
If you want to challenge the alternative media and call them “disinformation” put forth a bunch of examples that rival the mendacity we are fed every day by the “media”, penis head.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 29, 2024 12:21 PM (Jiopi)
Posted by: Lacra at October 29, 2024 12:17 PM (4pwAx)
2028 baby! Vance/Ramaswamy has a nice ring to it. But I'm getting ahead of myself, we still have to get through November.
Posted by: LizLem at October 29, 2024 12:21 PM (QAK8m)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at October 29, 2024 12:22 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 29, 2024 12:18 PM (EXyHK)
Sly, self congratulating, and trying to lay any danger or blame on Ace. Hasn't she got a husband who likes the cameras?
Posted by: Enough Bull at October 29, 2024 12:22 PM (2NXcZ)
Shoot me an e-mail, please.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at October 29, 2024 12:21 PM (Q0kLU)
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Sure. Short form: It's AI generated, done through Amazon KDP itself, and cost me nothing.
But I'll still send an email.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 12:22 PM (GBKbO)
While I'm very impressed with his performance on the campaign trail, there's a big difference between a brilliant communicator and an effective executive. I'm happy to give him 4 years as veep to watch and learn. At that point, he can compete against our other stellar executives, e.g. DeSantis and Youngkin.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 29, 2024 12:22 PM (xCA6C)
If I’m reading this correctly (which I may well not be), she did tell people—she told Ace, for example, and so probably other people. She probably wanted it to come out first on an obscure military blog somewhere before she was “forced” to confirm the “rumor”.
Which is a bullshit game to play, but that’s DC.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair
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Our ruling class of politicians, media, oligarchs, and transnational organizations are essentially crooks and treated as an aristocrats immune to punishment by normies as were the aristos of old.
People that try to reveal that crooked behavior, unless by permission of that ruling class in order to nail one of their class traitors, get punished until it no longer really matters because public attention is elsewhere, the power of individual mandarins fade, and there is no real legal threat to them anymore.
That is DC (and most urban shitholes to be fair).
Posted by: whig at October 29, 2024 12:22 PM (ctrM5)
Right my Titanic? I don't give a flying otter's ass about that rag. This is about me being above the fray. Solomon-esque. A guiding beacon for lesser people to look to. Not like that Musk asshole.
-- J. Bezos (shopkeeper)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 29, 2024 12:22 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at October 29, 2024 12:23 PM (paSBy)
@ElectionWiz
15m
BREAKING — PUERTO RICO SENATOR ZORAIDA BUXO TO ENDORSE TRUMP IN ALLENTWON, PA
Posted by: redridinghood at October 29, 2024 12:23 PM (NpAcC)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 29, 2024 12:23 PM (Jiopi)
As for jailing these traitors, they should put them in the DC gulag and keep them there for years without trial just like the J6ers. Seems to me that is worse. Incommunicado, unable to prove guilt or innocence. Kind of like political prisoners.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 29, 2024 12:23 PM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 29, 2024 12:23 PM (Jiopi)
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Yeah, most likely.
Maybe Bret Stephens can do double-duty at both NYT and WaPo.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 12:24 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at October 29, 2024 12:24 PM (L/fGl)
We know it was Clinton World made up garbage.
They know it was Clinton made up garbage.
They know we know it was Clinton made up garbage.
EVERYONE F**KING KNOWS IT WAS MADE UP CLINTON GARBAGE!!!
JFC, this sh*t.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 29, 2024 12:24 PM (XV/Pl)
15m
BREAKING — PUERTO RICO SENATOR ZORAIDA BUXO TO ENDORSE TRUMP IN ALLENTWON, PA
Posted by: redridinghood at October 29, 2024 12:23 PM (NpAcC)
That's not possible. trump is a poopyhead.
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 29, 2024 12:24 PM (CIS44)
Posted by: redridinghood at October 29, 2024 12:23 PM (NpAcC)
LOL... Trump is always one step ahead
Posted by: It's me donna at October 29, 2024 12:24 PM (IyPmt)
2) Trump started his transition team months ago. Fully privately funded, with a team of outsiders
3) Trump said at the MSG he has a big secret that is helping him win the House bigly.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 29, 2024 12:17 PM (qHqHk)
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I believe PDT or one of his surrogates said PDT is refusing security briefings because Trump knows there will be leaks designed to damage PDT before he even takes office.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 29, 2024 12:24 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 29, 2024 12:21 PM (CIS44)
I don't know much about her. She's never pissed me off though so it's a start.
Posted by: ... at October 29, 2024 12:24 PM (hmOfI)
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at October 29, 2024 12:15 PM
I'd be afraid I wouldn't be able to refrain from throatpunching him on camera.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 29, 2024 12:25 PM (ZANHd)
Right now, early voting is down 403K votes from 2020 and it falls further and further behind every day.
The "VA is getting close" stuff probably isn't wrong by the numbers b/c you think lower overall turnout helps Trump like it helped Youngkin in 2021 (especially b/c some of that lower turnout in 2024 vs 2021 was getting non-citizens and dead off voter rolls - ie, possible mail in ballot fraud)...
Posted by: Nova Local at October 29, 2024 12:25 PM (exHjb)
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I bet it comes a hell of a lot more natural to her in 2024 than it did in 2017. I can't tell what's more atrocious: what these people have done the last 7 years (and aren't hanging for), or the fact that there are legions of people STILL voting Dem and thinking they're educated and responsible...
Good post, sir. Thank you
Posted by: bearski at October 29, 2024 12:25 PM (Bhsk7)
Posted by: ... at October 29, 2024 12:24 PM (hmOfI)
She's been about the only one covering in depth the lawfare and especially the J6 defendants.
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 29, 2024 12:25 PM (CIS44)
Posted by: ... at October 29, 2024 12:24 PM (hmOfI)
Julie Kelly has big on exposing the Jan 6th fraud
Posted by: It's me donna at October 29, 2024 12:26 PM (IyPmt)
Posted by: Diogenes at October 29, 2024 12:26 PM (W/lyH)
The one where he talks to Kamala and it's just all clips of stupid shit she actually said and Hitler gets increasingly agitated is funnier, but that one's good too.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 29, 2024 12:26 PM (2ocoG)
(The narrator can break or make an audiobook, some of the free ones are a mixed bag.)
I'm also leery of some of Audible's predatory practices on authors. Whatever you are making on there, they should be giving you a larger cut. I appreciate Brandon Sanderson using some of his clout to force them to negotiate to better terms for authors, but it's still far from what you deserve for your work.
Posted by: LizLem at October 29, 2024 12:26 PM (QAK8m)
Posted by: LizLem at October 29, 2024 12:21 PM (QAK8m)
Same state - can't happen (for now)...
Posted by: Nova Local at October 29, 2024 12:26 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 29, 2024 12:26 PM (XV/Pl)
@ElectionWiz
15m
BREAKING — PUERTO RICO SENATOR ZORAIDA BUXO TO ENDORSE TRUMP IN ALLENTWON, PA
Posted by: redridinghood at October 29, 2024 12:23 PM (NpAcC)
I was wrong. I guess the Puerto Rico trash island joke didn't hurt Puerto Rican support like I thought it would. ( only NY which I don't think Trump has a chance to win anyway)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 29, 2024 12:26 PM (ndoNK)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 29, 2024 12:26 PM (Jiopi)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 29, 2024 12:27 PM (WnEm5)
I'm waiting for them to start shrieking about the Bene Gesserit and the sandworm threat.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 29, 2024 12:27 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at October 29, 2024 12:23 PM
Not if the whore wins, comrade.
Posted by: Zombie Lavrenti Beria at October 29, 2024 12:27 PM (ZANHd)
Russia was in motion long before election 2016. J6 was in motion long before election 2020.
This one is in motion now and it is a setup. They are projecting it.
Yes I know I said that already.
Posted by: ... at October 29, 2024 12:27 PM (hmOfI)
The incestuous relationship between the democrat party and the US media is long, and disgusting.
Here is the formula:
Volunteer for a dem campaign as a college student.
Get out of college.
Get a job as a clerk or aide to a democrat/Lib from contacts you made as a campaign volunteer in college.
Get a media job through contacts you made as a clerk or aide to a democrat or marry a politician or campaign employee.
Journalize through your dem contacts/former campaign buddies or spouses.
Posted by: Frank Barone at October 29, 2024 12:27 PM (+oR7L)
Posted by: Archimedes at October 29, 2024 12:22 PM (xCA6C)
Yup...I'd be just as happy with Youngkin and DeSantis in some combo in 2028...with or without Vance til Vance proves some governing chops...
Posted by: Nova Local at October 29, 2024 12:27 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 29, 2024 12:27 PM (s3qiR)
Tom Elliott@tomselliott
MSNBC’s @NicolleDWallace on 2024: “The stakes literally are life & death for every woman in America … it’s not hyperbole, it’s not an exaggeration”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at October 29, 2024 12:28 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 29, 2024 12:23 PM (t/2Uw)
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It has to be farcical. They are one out of one dictator short.
They are going to have go overboard expecting you to believe that only a tyrant would pardon a Thanksgiving turkey like Trump just did!
Posted by: Axeman at October 29, 2024 12:28 PM (krQz2)
@ElectionWiz
15m
BREAKING — PUERTO RICO SENATOR ZORAIDA BUXO TO ENDORSE TRUMP IN ALLENTWON, PA
Posted by: redridinghood at October 29, 2024 12:23 PM (NpAcC)
I was wrong. I guess the Puerto Rico trash island joke didn't hurt Puerto Rican support like I thought it would. ( only NY which I don't think Trump has a chance to win anyway)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 29, 2024 12:26 PM (ndoNK)
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I think the largest PR population is in FL.
The day after the event, FL early voting got every so slightly more Republican (it can't move that much either way on a single day anymore, over 5 million votes).
The only people actually offended were white ninnies who decided to protect dumb minorities who SHOULD be offended and SHOULD blame Trump.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 12:28 PM (GBKbO)
While I'm very impressed with his performance on the campaign trail, there's a big difference between a brilliant communicator and an effective executive. I'm happy to give him 4 years as veep to watch and learn. At that point, he can compete against our other stellar executives, e.g. DeSantis and Youngkin.
Posted by: Archimedes
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True. It is a confounding factor that in a putative democracy, that charismatic communicative skills AND being able to manage government are seldom present in one person. So a manager type has to rely on others skilled in communication (GWB and Tony Snow are a good example) while a communicative type like Obama had to rely on managers to do anything. Had Obama had the dual skills of FDR, it would have been a far greater disaster than Obama's term already was.
FDR could communicate but his managerial skills were all directed to making him ringmaster of all disputes giving him far more power beyond most presidents until he was too sick to do it anymore.
Posted by: whig at October 29, 2024 12:28 PM (ctrM5)
and Vivek!
sorry I looooooove Vivek
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 29, 2024 12:28 PM (s3qiR)
>>That's not possible. trump is a poopyhead.
But I thought Literally Gay Hitler Comedian at the MSG rally turned off all Boriquas?
I am confused.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 29, 2024 12:28 PM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 29, 2024 12:11 PM (uLfN1)
__________________________
Oh, I think we all know who that was.
Posted by: Orson at October 29, 2024 12:28 PM (dIske)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 29, 2024 12:24 PM (tT6L1)
Correction - designed to indict and convict Trump before the election...
Posted by: Nova Local at October 29, 2024 12:28 PM (exHjb)
The "VA is getting close" stuff probably isn't wrong by the numbers b/c you think lower overall turnout helps Trump like it helped Youngkin in 2021 (especially b/c some of that lower turnout in 2024 vs 2021 was getting non-citizens and dead off voter rolls - ie, possible mail in ballot fraud)...
Your mouth...God's ear...some assembly required.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 29, 2024 12:28 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Jay in PA at October 29, 2024 12:29 PM (i7Q7S)
It was a setup. Not planned on January 5th or a couple weeks before. They had it ready for months, maybe longer.
Like Russia. Like COVID. Like whatever is coming next.
Posted by: ... at October 29, 2024 12:29 PM (hmOfI)
Like I said when it happened, anyone getting the vapors over it just proves they don't know any Hispanics. They all bust each others' balls constantly about which country they're from. The closest you get to unity is that everyone loves to mock the Mexicans.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 29, 2024 12:29 PM (2ocoG)
agree well said
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 29, 2024 12:29 PM (s3qiR)
Maybe Bret Stephens can do double-duty at both NYT and WaPo.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 12:24 PM (GBKbO)”
Nobody is ever going back to the traditional media. That’s why they are constantly trying to muffle the alternative platforms. They know it. This is their last gasp. They might as well turn the WaPo building into a brothel. It would make more money. Maybe. If they make sure Jennifer Rubin isn’t there.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 29, 2024 12:29 PM (Jiopi)
Tom Elliott@tomselliott
MSNBC’s @NicolleDWallace on 2024: “The stakes literally are life & death for every woman in America … it’s not hyperbole, it’s not an exaggeration”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at October 29, 2024 12:28 PM (L/fGl)
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He's connected to Mitt's project to PUT WOMEN INTO BINDERS!!!
Posted by: Axeman at October 29, 2024 12:29 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: SMOD at October 29, 2024 12:29 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Jay in PA at October 29, 2024 12:29 PM (i7Q7S)
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*Scott Walker mumbles about how illegal immigration isn't really a big problem*
-2016 and the GOP's premiere governor
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 12:29 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 29, 2024 12:29 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 29, 2024 12:29 PM (d2bW3)
If they are US citizens arrested in the US... no.
If they are US citizens arrested outside the US... no.
If they are not US citizens but arrested in the US... no.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 29, 2024 12:29 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Propaganda Parrot at October 29, 2024 12:30 PM (aD39U)
Posted by: Ian S. at October 29, 2024 12:29 PM (2ocoG)
Even the Mexicans.
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 29, 2024 12:30 PM (CIS44)
just seems weird
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 29, 2024 12:27 PM (s3qiR)
Fake name?
Posted by: Enough Bull at October 29, 2024 12:30 PM (2NXcZ)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 29, 2024 12:30 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Braenyard at October 29, 2024 12:30 PM (bhSZH)
sorry I looooooove Vivek
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 29, 2024 12:28 PM (s3qiR)
I am not a fan, and that is mainly because of his provenance and slick-talking pol persona. I'll give him the benefit of doubt and accept his role in a Trump/Vance admin to prove his worth through actions.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 29, 2024 12:30 PM (i24o9)
I want to Let Americans Bust Balls Again!
that would be my hat
Italian - we bust balls. but I can't anymore without people getting triggered? it SUCKS
it's a sign of RESPECT ! if I don't bust your balls it means I suspect you are not well
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 29, 2024 12:30 PM (s3qiR)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth
Does anyone really draw a direct link between a random speaker/comedian at a Trump event and the actual candidate?
I just wish Trump's camp though would better vet some of this. If you're going to do a Trump event, someone there needs to know what you're going to say before you say it.
Posted by: Lacra at October 29, 2024 12:30 PM (4pwAx)
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But it hurt Walz' feelings! That's the important thing!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at October 29, 2024 12:30 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Ian S. at October 29, 2024 12:29 PM (2ocoG)
Even the Mexicans.
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 29, 2024 12:30 PM (CIS44)
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"This is going to lose Nevada for Trump!"
"There are almost no Puerto Ricans in Nevada."
"All Hispanics are the same, racist!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 12:30 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: runner at October 29, 2024 12:31 PM (V13WU)
Unpossible! I was informed that a comedian at his rally calling PR a trash island would doom his candidacy.
Globalization caused the lucrative pharmaceutical companies to flee PR to go overseas. Trump wants more of our drugs made in America, he was working to lure them back to PR again. Bravo to the senator for caring more about his people than sticking it to el Trumpo.
Also, even Jon Stewart defended the comedian and said his jokes were funny. When you've lost Stewart...
Posted by: LizLem at October 29, 2024 12:31 PM (QAK8m)
Posted by: runner at October 29, 2024 12:31 PM (V13WU)
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And George Lopez, at a Kamala rally, had insulting things to say about Mexicans.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 12:31 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Lacra at October 29, 2024 12:17 PM (4pwAx)
Yeah. The last time we got a first term Senator as President that went over super-well.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 29, 2024 12:31 PM (ExV1e)
yeah he's from around here - he went to this tiny Hebrew school out in Bryn Mawr or something - he has a totally different (too ethnic?!?) name
I don't like that. I don't like David Chase for doing it. Keep your name dammit.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 29, 2024 12:31 PM (s3qiR)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 29, 2024 12:32 PM (Jiopi)
The guy probably heard about Bono promising to drive off a cliff and wanted to double-dip for Trump.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 29, 2024 12:32 PM (2ocoG)
Posted by: Diogenes at October 29, 2024 12:32 PM (W/lyH)
Given that they're all whores, it makes sense.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 29, 2024 12:32 PM (xCA6C)
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I think a lot of thoughtful people have grown weary of being held to "beyond reasonable doubt" standards while the other side gets to distort, lie, and yell over us not only with impunity but with great amplification.
So, AFAIC, the "illegal procedure" gesture and Tapper's clammy paw cinch it.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at October 29, 2024 12:32 PM (wzAuc)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 29, 2024 12:32 PM (u82oZ)
Not one has ever said there was never, ever any proof that Trump paid Moscow prostitutes to urinate on the bed Obama slept on.
Not one time, in nearly 8 years of discussing it, have they ever said the most salacious and headline claim was pure bullshit.
They skip over that, ignore that, while continuing to treat the entire document as authenticated and factual.
It was stupid AF, ridiculous on the face and ... they all still pretend it is true.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 29, 2024 12:32 PM (qHqHk)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 12:31 PM (GBKbO)
CNN said that was OK. But Tony is BAAAAAAD DUUUUUDE.
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 29, 2024 12:32 PM (CIS44)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 29, 2024 12:18 PM (WnEm5)
Ace knows JJ Sefton.
That is all you need to know!
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 29, 2024 12:32 PM (Rbu5d)
The Babylon Bee Editorial Board Endorses Kamala Harris For President.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 29, 2024 12:32 PM (u82oZ)
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I'm cancelling my Bee subscription!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 12:33 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 29, 2024 12:30 PM (i24o9)
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I believe Vivek ripping Ronna during a debate was the beginning of her downfall. Another Romney GOPe traitor called out, exposed and tossed aside. For that, Vivek deserves much praise.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 29, 2024 12:33 PM (tT6L1)
@JamesBlairUSA
@TheDemocrats
are running around in Bucks County, PA with badges trying to pretend like they are elections officials.
These people are not officials.
Intimidation tactics!
https://tinyurl.com/3pv8bmnc
Posted by: redridinghood at October 29, 2024 12:33 PM (NpAcC)
Because Trump is a danger to them and their schemes, not us or the country.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 29, 2024 12:33 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 29, 2024 12:32 PM (Jiopi)
*Flowbee has entered the chat*
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 29, 2024 12:33 PM (CIS44)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 29, 2024 12:30 PM (s3qiR)
Exactly, you dumb bitch.
Posted by: ... at October 29, 2024 12:33 PM (hmOfI)
His attempt at a comeback is circling the drain, so he's trying new things. Sorry, Jon, your time is over. Enjoy the early bird special.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 29, 2024 12:34 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 29, 2024 12:31 PM (s3qiR)
He inherited the name form his father, a Philly MD. Unless you're suggesting that grandpa changed it.
Posted by: Enough Bull at October 29, 2024 12:34 PM (2NXcZ)
That is all you need to know!
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 29, 2024 12:32 PM (Rbu5d)
_______________________________
That was happenstance. They both have the same parole officer.
Posted by: Orson at October 29, 2024 12:34 PM (dIske)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 29, 2024 12:32 PM (Jiopi)
She looked absolutely awful on CSPAN last night. A Brookings panel discussion… I’ll never get that 15 minutes back (I turned it off, couldn’t take anymore)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 29, 2024 12:34 PM (WnEm5)
Posted by: bearski at October 29, 2024 12:34 PM (Bhsk7)
Today, DeSantis is argua bly the most talented manager of anyone in the GOP, by far, but his mass communication skills are poor. Same is true for Youngkin, to a lesser extent.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 29, 2024 12:34 PM (wyMQY)
I don't know this for sure but you know she speaks to Trump from time to time? I would not be surprised if she told him.
and I know she told other parties. Like I said, I cannot say more.
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:34 PM (KRtlO)
are running around in Bucks County, PA with badges trying to pretend like they are elections officials.
These people are not officials.
Intimidation tactics!
yeah it's crazy up in here
I got a "we know if you vote or don't vote" threatening letter - I guess these are being sent to Dems?!?! I'm supposed to early vote and I haven't yet? the tone was odd
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 29, 2024 12:34 PM (s3qiR)
I think Trump picked Vance because he felt that he would carry out his legacy. The fact that Vance really connects with people is pretty unique. He has the kind of charisma that makes him unique in the political world, a lot like Trump.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 29, 2024 12:34 PM (t/2Uw)
.. since Billy Joel wrote the song "Allentown" back in 1982, Allentown has become majority Hispanic
Posted by: SMOD at October 29, 2024 12:34 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Marcus T
lol
she got the Tard Cut
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:34 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Marcus T
lol
she got the Tard Cut
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:34 PM (KRtlO)
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So, Ben Stiller is going to play her in her biopic?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 12:35 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:35 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 29, 2024 12:18 PM (WnEm5)
Ace knows JJ Sefton.
That is all you need to know!
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 29, 2024 12:32 PM (Rbu5d)
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Damn. I'd pay money to sit down with cigars and whisky and chat with VDH!
Posted by: Diogenes at October 29, 2024 12:35 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 29, 2024 12:35 PM (qHqHk)
Newspapers? Died a decade ago.
Broadcast network news? Who cares.
Local news? Daily murders.
Cable news? Pfft...
Posted by: It's all online in a hundred different formats at October 29, 2024 12:35 PM (DobEs)
Posted by: runner at October 29, 2024 12:31 PM (V13WU)
Tony Hinchcliffe shot his own show in Vegas this week. At one point he was making fun of the "white trash" around Vegas. The more I think of it, it's just Don Rickles schtik set against American Idol for comedians.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at October 29, 2024 12:35 PM (pIfcn)
The Babylon Bee Editorial Board Endorses Kamala Harris For President.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
They've got a wealth of opportunities. Either should keep them in content for some time.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at October 29, 2024 12:35 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 29, 2024 12:30 PM (s3qiR)
Exactly, you dumb bitch.
hey I'm not your mom three dots!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 29, 2024 12:35 PM (s3qiR)
i don't usually mention stuff like this because I consider myself radioactive and I don't want to taint other people.
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:36 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Marcus T
Weed Eater
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 29, 2024 12:36 PM (VNX3d)
There are NPR & various other news stories going back to 2017 claiming that Puerto Rico has a growing trash problem and they are running out of places to put trash on an island.
Thus....Trash Island.
Posted by: Frank Barone at October 29, 2024 12:36 PM (+oR7L)
Ace, will Vic be added to the Absent Friends list? Vic had so many friends here judging by the comments left on his obit page, I'm one, and it would be nice to see that he is still here with us. (thank you for the list of known absent friends, I look at it often)
Posted by: old chick at October 29, 2024 12:36 PM (F3Dlr)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 29, 2024 12:36 PM (17s+e)
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at October 29, 2024 12:37 PM (kTd/k)
Posted by: Archimedes at October 29, 2024 12:22 PM (xCA6C)
we have to win first.
DeSantis had the luck of picking and listening to some very good, top-notch advisors, and had the willingness to stand his ground once he made his decisions that was contrary to the current acceptable wisdom. To start with Florida was as bad as California until he figured out what the options meant.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 29, 2024 12:37 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:36 PM (KRtlO)
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Wait, "The Firm" wrote a song about you?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 29, 2024 12:37 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:37 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:36 PM (KRtlO)
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So...how's Obama?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 12:37 PM (GBKbO)
So Tapper the only question left is were you in on it or just too stupid to tell you were being played?
Your choice.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at October 29, 2024 12:37 PM (uBBbP)
Posted by: runner at October 29, 2024 12:37 PM (V13WU)
she got the Tard Cut
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:34 PM (KRtlO)”
I’ve seen dogs with better hair cuts. And seriously, ashore and awhile. Maybe spring for a blowout, you cheap, miserable bitch.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 29, 2024 12:37 PM (Jiopi)
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:37 PM (KRtlO)
The reason why AOC was like, oh f*ck that was disappointing during the Walz Twitch nonsense, is because she knows that having that dude at your rally, makes your rally as about pop culturally relevant as possible, and having top tier comedians on your side is as preference cascadey as you can get.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 29, 2024 12:37 PM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: SMOD at October 29, 2024 12:37 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 29, 2024 12:37 PM (CIS44)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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Dunno, I think we are essentially at the end of the Republic one way or another. Our republic got sick and then better after WWI, then sick again with WWII outbreak, and the long Cold War, sapped the vitality out of it.
The redirection of the security state toward terrorism during the Clinton and GWB years has led to its ultimate conclusion--the IC essentially running the government starting with the Bush years and accelerating during the Obama and Biden years.
For whatever reason (party politics, power calculations, spite), the IC decided to bring its color revolution techniques abroad to this country and the entire government, media, and financial powers of the Uniparty globalism is directed at We The People as mortal enemies.
Posted by: whig at October 29, 2024 12:37 PM (ctrM5)
They skip over that, ignore that, while continuing to treat the entire document as authenticated and factual.
It was stupid AF, ridiculous on the face and ... they all still pretend it is true.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 29, 2024 12:32 PM (qHqHk)
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They're hoping not to kill the belief entirely, so people on their side go about thinking it's true, but the press doesn't have to lie to keep it alive.
The press hasn't even made it clear to their public that the Alfabank hoax was created by guys hired by Hillary's campaign to make it look like Trump had a wire to Alfabank. Totally 100% made up by the Hillary campaign, to be "investigated by the FIB".
To create a rippling wave of concern that Moscow wanted Trump to win. When she could have just listened to a 2-time Presidential election winner that was her husband.
Posted by: Axeman at October 29, 2024 12:37 PM (krQz2)
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Well unfortunately yes. The Republicans in my deep blue area are the biggest cucks imaginable. I was talking to one who is voting third party because Trump doesn't shut his mouth and why did he have that comedian on. I just rolled my eyes.
That said if his vote "mattered" he would have voted for him I think. It's too bad because his vote does matter at the popular level. But he hates Obama and has no problem telling everyone etc. So I don't know. People are stupid and media driven.
Posted by: ... at October 29, 2024 12:38 PM (hmOfI)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 29, 2024 12:38 PM (gfViB)
Posted by: Jay in PA at October 29, 2024 12:38 PM (i7Q7S)
@JamesBlairUSA
@TheDemocrats
are running around in Bucks County, PA with badges trying to pretend like they are elections officials.
These people are not officials.
Intimidation tactics!
https://tinyurl.com/3pv8bmnc
Posted by: redridinghood at October 29, 2024 12:33 PM (NpAcC)
***
*hits print on the printer*
*looks at badge*
VOTER INSURRECTION!!!
*smiles*
Posted by: Diogenes at October 29, 2024 12:38 PM (W/lyH)
I think that’s a bit much, for three reasons. First, that is the way the game is played. If she wants to remain effective, she has to play it.
Second, this is one of those things where a straight reporting of the facts leaves a lot to be desired. “No, he didn’t say that Sciutto was the leak. But it was the way he didn’t say it.” If the story comes from someone other than her, the story is “did she see that behavior” not “what did the behavior mean”.
Because we all know what it meant. Reporting it the wrong way would obscure that obviousness.
And third, we don’t know it was Ace she was unloading responsibility to. As Ace describes it, she could well have been seeking advice from an outsider first because she knew beltway air corrupts.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 29, 2024 12:38 PM (EXyHK)
Posted by: Butkus51 at October 29, 2024 12:38 PM (+yda9)
Posted by: Marcus T
lol
she got the Tard Cut
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:34 PM (KRtlO)
It fits the helmet.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 29, 2024 12:38 PM (aD39U)
But as even Trump admits, he was not wise in the ways of DC, and it cost him bigly. I'd rather have someone who can hit the ground running and see the traps before he stumbles into them.
If Trump gives him a significant portfolio, like the border or energy and labor, he will get the experience necessary to be a formidable candidate.
Exactly my point.
I think Trump will be a foreign affairs President looking to negotiate Peace in the Middle East and Ukraine.
I disagree. While he will do some things in those arenas, he has a far bigger fish to fry, namely the corruption of our government under Obama/Biden.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 29, 2024 12:38 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Jay in PA at October 29, 2024 12:38 PM (i7Q7S)
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It's obvious that he got into his first meeting with national donors, and he did not come out of it with his back straight.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 12:39 PM (GBKbO)
I guess the Puerto Rico trash island joke didn't hurt Puerto Rican support like I thought it would.
Dennis Prager started his show today denouncing the joke. HE got the vapors.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 29, 2024 12:39 PM (63Dwl)
The story I saw was that they were strongly hinting that Antifa will burn your house down if you don't vote for Kamala.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 29, 2024 12:39 PM (2ocoG)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 29, 2024 12:35 PM (s3qiR)
Lol
Posted by: ... at October 29, 2024 12:39 PM (hmOfI)
Are there no circumstances under which they could face military tribunals instead?
Posted by: TeeJ at October 29, 2024 12:39 PM (xI6JS)
@JamesBlairUSA
@TheDemocrats
are running around in Bucks County, PA with badges trying to pretend like they are elections officials.
These people are not officials.
Intimidation tactics!
https://tinyurl.com/3pv8bmnc
Posted by: redridinghood at October 29, 2024 12:33 PM (NpAcC
The badge says ‘VOTER PROTECTION’. That word, protection, is what gives it away. Democrats lie, it’s what they do best.
Posted by: Eromero at October 29, 2024 12:39 PM (jgmnb)
I'm glad it will not have any significant effect but that doesn't make it a stupid thing to do. Even Trump issued a statement distancing himself from it.
You don't have to defend every thing. Okay maybe you do when you're in a war until the war is over. It's just hard for me to defend stupidity.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 29, 2024 12:39 PM (ndoNK)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 29, 2024 12:32 PM (Jiopi)
She looked absolutely awful on CSPAN last night.
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I thought they were rerunning The Outer Limits.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at October 29, 2024 12:39 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:39 PM (KRtlO)
-2016 and the GOP's premiere governor
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powel
I started '16 backing Walker. What a fucking disappointment.
Posted by: Brother Tim, Keeper of the Tim Continuum at October 29, 2024 12:39 PM (OUMaO)
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Dittos the owner of the LA Times. Methinks the CA spoil system will shift towards Hispanics at the expense of blacks in the near term.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 29, 2024 12:40 PM (AdHga)
Rubin is undoubtably sick, and might be a woman, but is certainly not poor!
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at October 29, 2024 12:40 PM (gfztU)
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:36 PM (KRtlO)
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You have to be careful with your taint.
Posted by: Josh Brolin at October 29, 2024 12:40 PM (krQz2)
I got a "we know if you vote or don't vote" threatening letter - I guess these are being sent to Dems?!?! I'm supposed to early vote and I haven't yet? the tone was odd
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 29, 2024 12:34 PM (s3qiR)
*********
Bucks County, Pennsylvania.
There’s been lines like this for days across counties in PA. Only for elections officials to come out and push people out of line and tell them to come back.
Voter suppression!
https://tinyurl.com/4hnzmnet
Posted by: redridinghood at October 29, 2024 12:40 PM (NpAcC)
it's a visual one though so I will have to post it later
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:40 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 29, 2024 12:40 PM (Jiopi)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 29, 2024 12:40 PM (aD39U)
which joke?
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:39 PM (KRtlO)
Flowbee I get in @215. Im just bustin balls!
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 29, 2024 12:40 PM (CIS44)
Your choice.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless
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Tapper started out at Handgun Control (which morphed in to the Brady anti gun group) in the 80's as spokesperson. He had been telling lies with a straight face for most of his life on the behalf of his patrons whether he was a spokecritter or journalist. Same as Steffie, Anderson Cooper, or the line of critters at Fox. Same as it ever was.
Posted by: whig at October 29, 2024 12:40 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 29, 2024 12:24 PM (tT6L1)
That's what I read somewhere, too (here?). A couple months ago, in fact.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 29, 2024 12:40 PM (Rbu5d)
Posted by: RI Red at October 29, 2024 12:40 PM (sGZEA)
Posted by: SMOD at October 29, 2024 12:40 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 29, 2024 12:40 PM (aRslG)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at October 29, 2024 12:41 PM (L/fGl)
The Babylon Bee Editorial Board Endorses Kamala Harris For President.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
We can't just elect people for the lulz.
Bee Better.
Posted by: Grudge Harbor at October 29, 2024 12:41 PM (hCzfy)
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She left out "sham".
The LA Times/Wapo thing makes it clear that she's a sham.
Posted by: Axeman at October 29, 2024 12:41 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: first time reader, long time commenter at October 29, 2024 12:41 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: Ian S. at October 29, 2024 12:41 PM (2ocoG)
Posted by: runner at October 29, 2024 12:41 PM (V13WU)
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MSNBC viewers will also never know Trump never called nazis “very fine people.”
Posted by: Jay in PA at October 29, 2024 12:41 PM (i7Q7S)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 29, 2024 12:24 PM (tT6L1)
Trump said that himself
Posted by: SMOD at October 29, 2024 12:41 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: runner at October 29, 2024 12:42 PM (V13WU)
Just admit it. We embarrass you! You're ashamed of us!
*runs away sobbing*
Posted by: Archimedes at October 29, 2024 12:42 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Scarlett O'Hara at October 29, 2024 12:42 PM (efuu+)
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I've witnessed this in the functioning school systems of yesteryear. The best English or history or math teachers when promoted into administration as vice principal then principal were rarely effective. Most of the time the best administrators came from coaching or shop teachers.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 29, 2024 12:42 PM (bhSZH)
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You can't tourniquet the taint!!
Sorry, Archer. Phrasing boom...
Posted by: bearski at October 29, 2024 12:42 PM (Bhsk7)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 29, 2024 12:42 PM (Jiopi)
Posted by: Sifty at October 29, 2024 12:42 PM (CoRO+)
>>When she wants a booty call with an Ewok, she's all set.
It's probably more along the lines of leveraging The Ewoks shelve hanging techniques and possibly grooming tips.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 29, 2024 12:42 PM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at October 29, 2024 12:42 PM (gY0JQ)
Posted by: ... at October 29, 2024 12:43 PM (hmOfI)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 29, 2024 12:39 PM (63Dwl)
That’s just sad. I’ve loved Prager for years but I’m some ways he’s stuck in the 90s
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 29, 2024 12:43 PM (WnEm5)
Posted by: scampydog at October 29, 2024 12:43 PM (2bFN5)
Posted by: Jay in PA at October 29, 2024 12:41 PM (i7Q7S)
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MSNBC might as well admit the truth. It's not like their dozens of viewers will believe them anyway. They'll assume MSNBC was forced by the Reich Wingers to lie.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 29, 2024 12:43 PM (tT6L1)
great song
or at least I always liked it, still do
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:37 PM (KRtlO)
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Star Trekkin'?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at October 29, 2024 12:43 PM (U1w17)
The Cheney War Pigs
Adam "crying" Kinlinger
Fred "40 watt" Upton
Yeeff "soft hands" Flake
The entire Bush family
I mean, the Republican Party is shedding weight like a fatty on Biggest Loser playing at 5x speed.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 29, 2024 12:43 PM (qHqHk)
Posted by: runner at October 29, 2024 12:43 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: Marie Curie at October 29, 2024 12:43 PM (hmOfI)
which joke?
Jonah Goldberg and a priest walk into a bar...
Posted by: Archimedes at October 29, 2024 12:44 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: SMOD at October 29, 2024 12:40 PM (RHGPo)
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Wow. And it obviously was about mass extinction, then!
Geeze, Trump hates everything.
Posted by: Axeman at October 29, 2024 12:44 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:36 PM (KRtlO)
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You have to be careful with your taint.
Posted by: Josh Brolin at October 29, 2024 12:40 PM (krQz2)
Word. Next thing you know your taint has a million likes on tik tok.
Posted by: Hope solo at October 29, 2024 12:44 PM (uBBbP)
The Cheney War Pigs
Adam "crying" Kinlinger
Fred "40 watt" Upton
Yeeff "soft hands" Flake
The entire Bush family
I mean, the Republican Party is shedding weight like a fatty on Biggest Loser playing at 5x speed.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 29, 2024 12:43 PM (qHqHk)
*mittens hangs heads*
*kicks rocks*
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 29, 2024 12:44 PM (CIS44)
Posted by: Archimedes at October 29, 2024 12:44 PM (xCA6C)
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The priest could have seen it, but was laughing too hard.
Posted by: Axeman at October 29, 2024 12:44 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 29, 2024 12:24 PM (tT6L1)
It's much worse than that. What Trump said that he fears, and he is right, is that they would reveal sensitive information to him in a briefing, and that a couple days later the agency would leak it and set up a plant to say that Trump was the one who did it. and then they would charge Trump with an official secrets crime and jail him immediately. The best and really only way to block that plan is to refuse to allow any communications between himself and the Intelligence Agencies.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 29, 2024 12:45 PM (wyMQY)
Posted by: ... at October 29, 2024 12:43 PM (hmOfI)
It's good for you! Radon Health Mine:
https://radonmine.com/
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 29, 2024 12:45 PM (RdRoZ)
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What I'd like to see is a person trying to vote twice and getting alarm bells going off all around them like Meryl Streep walking through the detector in Silkwood. Then call the cops, have the DA press charges, and proceed to throw the scum in jail.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 29, 2024 12:45 PM (qBdHI)
Posted by: Pudinhead
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Blacks have basically disappeared demographically from California to single digits (around 5 percent, 17 and younger is 4.5 percent). Over half of California's population now are naturalized citizens (54.3 percent) primarily of Asian or Hispanic descent. https://tinyurl.com/bd35ckse
From the California Policy Institute as of 2024.
Posted by: whig at October 29, 2024 12:45 PM (ctrM5)
I disagree. While he will do some things in those arenas, he has a far bigger fish to fry, namely the corruption of our government under Obama/Biden.
Posted by: Archimedes
I disagree. I think he will delegate that to Elon and Vivek and give cabinet positions to Kennedy and Tulsi to make that happen. I think he will want his legacy attached to doing what no one else can do. The Abraham Accords were a phenomenal success. He will build on that and literally go down in history.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 29, 2024 12:46 PM (t/2Uw)
"I think a lot of thoughtful people have grown weary of being held to "beyond reasonable doubt" standards while the other side gets to distort, lie, and yell over us not only with impunity but with great amplification."
I really started to notice this double standard back in the GWBush days, often in arguments about the presence of WMD.
For the left - an assertion is plenty of evidence.
For the right - courtroom standards of proof are required.
Posted by: RM at October 29, 2024 12:46 PM (WXucK)
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at October 29, 2024 12:46 PM (xAP/Y)
Posted by: runner at October 29, 2024 12:47 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:35 PM
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She's rocking that Nazi-banging Vichy French whore collaborationist look (circa May 1945).
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at October 29, 2024 12:47 PM (wzAuc)
I disagree. While he will do some things in those arenas, he has a far bigger fish to fry, namely the corruption of our government under Obama/Biden.
Posted by: Archimedes
I disagree. I think he will delegate that to Elon and Vivek and give cabinet positions to Kennedy and Tulsi to make that happen. I think he will want his legacy attached to doing what no one else can do. The Abraham Accords were a phenomenal success. He will build on that and literally go down in history.
We shall see.
*rubs chin sagaciously*
Posted by: Archimedes at October 29, 2024 12:47 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Marcus T
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I don't care for the fake and gay stuff which is a lot of the recent crap outta Nashville.
Posted by: whig at October 29, 2024 12:47 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 29, 2024 12:39 PM (63Dwl)
Prager has been having the vapors since 2012. He probably has callouses from clutching his pears. More of an ass than the one that refused to carry Balaam a step further.
(Not a fan, does it show?)
Posted by: Kindltot at October 29, 2024 12:47 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: redridinghood at October 29, 2024 12:47 PM (NpAcC)
Posted by: redridinghood at October 29, 2024
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That's "senator" as in the equivalent of state senator, right? Not U.S. Senate?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 29, 2024 12:47 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Scarlett O'Hara at October 29, 2024 12:42 PM (efuu+)
Loved the I reject your premise response and then a challenge to put the actual footage out that supports tappers read of trumps three hour interview with rogan.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at October 29, 2024 12:48 PM (uBBbP)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 29, 2024 12:48 PM (u82oZ)
Nah, she looks like someone just gave her a swirly.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 29, 2024 12:48 PM (Jiopi)
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at October 29, 2024 12:46 PM (xAP/Y)
Oh they get it. They probably laughed too. It's not like they git a damn about the people. But like everything else, they take a snippet out of context and let the media lapdogs run with it.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 29, 2024 12:48 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: whig at October 29, 2024 12:47 PM (ctrM5)
"Bro Country" is just twangy hiphop. Sucks bigly.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 29, 2024 12:49 PM (RdRoZ)
Posted by: runner at October 29, 2024 12:47 PM (V13WU)
The IDF has destroyed a lot of Hezbolloah m issilies, but they notoriously undercounted the capability of Hamas for alm ost an entire year. So his "20%" is just something that makes him feel good to say, he has no idea.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 29, 2024 12:49 PM (wyMQY)
Posted by: whig at October 29, 2024 12:47 PM (ctrM5)”
*thumbs up*
Posted by: Marcus T at October 29, 2024 12:49 PM (Jiopi)
Nah, she looks like someone just gave her a swirly.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 29, 2024 12:48 PM (Jiopi)
Anyone seen my weed-whacker?
Posted by: Diogenes at October 29, 2024 12:49 PM (W/lyH)
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Fascists!
Posted by: People United For Not Understanding The Meaning of the Word Fascist at October 29, 2024 12:49 PM (krQz2)
"The greatest title that can be bestowed is that of peacemaker," says Nixon's gravestone.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at October 29, 2024 12:49 PM (Q0kLU)
Posted by: NaCly Dog
Definitely a good idea! /s
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 29, 2024 12:49 PM (d2bW3)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 29, 2024 12:47 PM (J2vNu)
Apparently a "shadow" senator.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 29, 2024 12:49 PM (RdRoZ)
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Fist bump.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 29, 2024 12:50 PM (AdHga)
Biden Reportedly Blasts “Dead and Buried” Kamala Campaign as “Stupid” and “Lazy” in Private
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at October 29, 2024 12:50 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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Yes. PR as a commonwealth territory only has a delegate to the US House. No delegates sit in the Senate.
Posted by: whig at October 29, 2024 12:50 PM (ctrM5)
America was born in taverns.
I bet they told fart jokes all the way across the Delaware River.
America without talking shit about everything isn't the same country.
Take away the gallows humor and all you got left is the fuckin gallows.
Posted by: Sifty at October 29, 2024 12:50 PM (anshC)
Posted by: Marie Curie at October 29, 2024 12:43 PM (hmOfI)
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lol
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 29, 2024 12:50 PM (17s+e)
Biden Reportedly Blasts “Dead and Buried” Kamala Campaign as “Stupid” and “Lazy” in Private
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at October 29, 2024 12:50 PM (L/fGl)
MSM will call him a racist tonight right? RIGHT?
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 29, 2024 12:51 PM (CIS44)
Posted by: Diogenes at October 29, 2024 12:49 PM (W/lyH)”
If It has ratty string, I’m pretty sure I know who had it last.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 29, 2024 12:51 PM (Jiopi)
America was born in taverns.
I bet they told fart jokes all the way across the Delaware River.
America without talking shit about everything isn't the same country.
Take away the gallows humor and all you got left is the fuckin gallows.
Posted by: Sifty at October 29, 2024 12:50 PM (anshC)
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Another take:
No one is more offended by a joke than someone trying to defend the target of a joke. Few targets of jokes get that offended.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 12:51 PM (GBKbO)
Biden Reportedly Blasts “Dead and Buried” Kamala Campaign as “Stupid” and “Lazy” in Private
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at October 29, 2024 12:50 PM (L/fGl)
MSM will call him a racist tonight right? RIGHT?
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 29, 2024 12:51 PM (CIS44)
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The post-election bloodbath in the halls of the DNC will be fun to hear about.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 12:51 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at October 29, 2024 12:51 PM (tPMOE)
Posted by: BlackOrchid
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I'm a firm believer in, at least for a moment , turning to humor in times of adversity. Thus, an old joke:
A guy appears before a judge, applying for a name change
Judge: And what is you name now?"
The guy: "Harry Lipschitz"
Judge: "Well Mr. Lipschitz, I can understand why you might wish to change your name. What do you want to change it to?"
The guy: "Bill Lipschitz"
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 29, 2024 12:51 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Marie Curie at October 29, 2024 12:43 PM (hmOfI
Gojira?
Posted by: Eromero at October 29, 2024 12:52 PM (jgmnb)
Posted by: runner at October 29, 2024 12:52 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at October 29, 2024 12:50 PM (L/fGl)
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He's right, but WTF is he to talk? He stayed in his basement and counted on a few swing districts boarding up their windows and tallying votes with the right people.
Posted by: Seems Legit at October 29, 2024 12:53 PM (jyAD3)
Posted by: 80's music fan at October 29, 2024 12:53 PM (QSrLX)
Posted by: free tibet with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at October 29, 2024 12:53 PM (iNp3L)
He also reportedly said Obama is an asshole. He's close - Obama likes assholes, to stick his dick into.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 29, 2024 12:53 PM (P9pDS)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 12:51 PM (GBKbO)
No one is more offended by a joke than someone who being offended by a joke helps politically.
Posted by: Marie Curie at October 29, 2024 12:53 PM (hmOfI)
some assembly required
Posted by: wth at October 29, 2024 12:53 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 12:51 PM (GBKbO)
No one is more offended by a joke than someone who being offended by a joke helps politically.
Posted by: Marie Curie at October 29, 2024 12:53 PM (hmOfI)
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Also that.
Narrative uber alles.
Remember, 90% of the "drama" of Trump's first term was the press wailing about normal things that all presidents did.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 12:54 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 29, 2024 12:54 PM (v6JzV)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 29, 2024 12:46 PM (t/2Uw)
also restructuring US debt. That is the big problem no one wants to face.
we are probably going to go onto some sort of commodity standard.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 29, 2024 12:54 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: runner at October 29, 2024 12:54 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: redridinghood at October 29, 2024 12:47 PM (NpAcC)
There's a goodly number of judges in this country who need a dose of *types*...*deletes* IYKWIM.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 29, 2024 12:54 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: runner at October 29, 2024 12:54 PM (V13WU)
354 311 You know who else has a radioactive taint?
Posted by: Marie Curie at October 29, 2024 12:43 PM (hmOfI
Gojira?
Posted by: Eromero at October 29, 2024 12:52 PM (jgmnb)
Hulk give three guess. First two guess get smash.
Posted by: Hulk at October 29, 2024 12:54 PM (uBBbP)
Narrative uber alles.
Remember, 90% of the "drama" of Trump's first term was the press wailing about normal things that all presidents did.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 12:54 PM (GBKbO)
Next you are going to tell me that all presidents get 2 scoops of ice cream.
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 29, 2024 12:54 PM (CIS44)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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I am waiting to see if the Dems cross the Rubicon in November.
Personally, I feel more like when I was waiting for major surgery and had been given the first of the IV drip to put me out. After the election, we either wake up from the current nightmare or have to live it.
Posted by: whig at October 29, 2024 12:55 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: runner at October 29, 2024 12:54 PM (V13WU)
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Need new thread for Great Outrage!
Posted by: Axeman at October 29, 2024 12:55 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: 80's music fan
......
I'm sure he does, nude in front of his bathroom mirror.
Posted by: wth at October 29, 2024 12:55 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Diogenes at October 29, 2024 12:55 PM (W/lyH)
Personally, I feel more like when I was waiting for major surgery and had been given the first of the IV drip to put me out. After the election, we either wake up from the current nightmare or have to live it.
Posted by: whig at October 29, 2024 12:55 PM (ctrM5)
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"Sure, Trump won the 'popular vote' and the electoral college with 350 votes, but he's going to so fascist all the fascisms as president that it is our duty to not recognize him and instead install Kamala as president."
Should be fun.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 12:56 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 29, 2024 12:56 PM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 29, 2024 12:54 PM (CIS44)
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Oooh. Too soon.
Given all the 2-scoops casualties.
Posted by: Axeman at October 29, 2024 12:56 PM (krQz2)
What's your gut whig?
1. Does Trump overcome the cheat?
2. Does he take an unexpected state?
Posted by: Marie Curie at October 29, 2024 12:56 PM (hmOfI)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 29, 2024 12:56 PM (Jiopi)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at October 29, 2024 12:57 PM (L/fGl)
He also reportedly said Obama is an asshole. He's close - Obama likes assholes, to stick his dick into.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 29, 2024 12:53 PM (P9pDS
Lol a guy with dementia calls you stupid and lazy from a chaise lounge on the beaches of rehobeth.
That's gotta sting.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at October 29, 2024 12:57 PM (uBBbP)
Posted by: ... at October 29, 2024 12:57 PM (hmOfI)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 29, 2024 12:56 PM (t/2Uw)
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Sounds like an almost prophetic summation of Biden's term to me.
Posted by: Axeman at October 29, 2024 12:57 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 29, 2024 12:57 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 29, 2024 12:57 PM (s3qiR)
354 311 You know who else has a radioactive taint?
Posted by: Marie Curie at October 29, 2024
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Don't forget about me . . . except I'm long dead.
Posted by: Radioactive Spider Who Bit Peter Parker at October 29, 2024 12:57 PM (J2vNu)
2. Does he take an unexpected state?
Posted by: Marie Curie at October 29, 2024 12:56 PM (hmOfI)
Really should have switched to your nic to Lonnie Donegan for that one.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 29, 2024 12:57 PM (EXyHK)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
They need their immunity stripped and I would require three judge panels going forward for all federal election lawsuits--no more solo judges. Direct appeal (not cert) to Scotus which means Scotus has to render a decision (they don't have to address substance but someone wins and someone loses). It is time those slackers get off their ass and return to even sixties measures of cases handled (usually over 3-400 or so written decisions, then also deciding a lot more appeals, etc.).
Posted by: whig at October 29, 2024 12:58 PM (ctrM5)
e.g. When Trump clearly states that other countries treat the U.S. like "garbage" by funneling gang members and drugs across the border, the lefties howl that Trump thinks America is "garbage." Nine years of this shit.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at October 29, 2024 12:58 PM (wzAuc)
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I don't think so
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 29, 2024 12:57 PM (s3qiR)
LOL
Posted by: ... at October 29, 2024 12:58 PM (hmOfI)
Posted by: ... at October 29, 2024 12:57 PM (hmOfI)
Fun Fact: while Marie Curie was a naturalized French citizen she was Polish by birth.
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 29, 2024 12:58 PM (CIS44)
Lots and lots of cod liver oil being bought on the way home by cat ladies tonight.
Posted by: Sifty at October 29, 2024 12:58 PM (0thIS)
Posted by: Dougy Efhoff at October 29, 2024 12:58 PM (17s+e)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 29, 2024
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It's too realistic -- it'll scare children.
Take it down! Please!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 29, 2024 12:58 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 29, 2024 12:56 PM (t/2Uw)
Dreams of water and flooding are dreams about chaos.
I am happy to year you are in less pain though.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 29, 2024 12:59 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 29, 2024 12:58 PM (CIS44)
It explains so much
Posted by: ... at October 29, 2024 12:59 PM (hmOfI)
Half of our outrage is the Left constantly trashing white males. We aren't laughing with them.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 29, 2024 12:59 PM (ndoNK)
Increase your intake of B6 and B12. It will help.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 29, 2024 12:59 PM (Jiopi)
I need to get this muffler fixed if Ace is hanging out with Mollie Hemingway and stuff.
I denounce mydamnself.
Posted by: Sifty at October 29, 2024 12:59 PM (0thIS)
Lots and lots of cod liver oil being bought on the way home by cat ladies tonight.
Posted by: Sifty at October 29, 2024
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I'll give big black Stirling a treat. Little Dagny seems uninterested in treats and prefers her dry food.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 29, 2024 12:59 PM (J2vNu)
In the Evening, Led Zep
She's Waiting, Eric Clapton
and now
In the Dark, Billy Squier
very happy with this algorithm right now
Posted by: ace at October 29, 2024 12:59 PM (KRtlO)
Wasn't a burst pipe the excuse for Biden's steal?
Posted by: ... at October 29, 2024 12:59 PM (hmOfI)
Posted by: Little Yoshi at October 29, 2024 12:59 PM (nS6qG)
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Yes. They pounce on every stray word.
Conservatives get called out for "pouncing" on felonies and real scandals and incompetence.
Posted by: Axeman at October 29, 2024 12:59 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 29, 2024
*
It explains so much
Posted by: ... at October 29, 2024
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Her maiden name was Sklodowska or something close to that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 29, 2024 01:00 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: LizLem at October 29, 2024 12:02 PM (QAK8m)
*fist bump*
Posted by: haffhowershower at October 29, 2024 01:00 PM (NMT5x)
Posted by: Soft Cell at October 29, 2024 01:00 PM (ufFY8)
Posted by: free tibet with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at October 29, 2024 12:53 PM (iNp3L)
Rush won but only because Rush fans jumped in to explain why we were wrong.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 29, 2024 01:00 PM (ExV1e)
Judge: "Well Mr. Lipschitz, I can understand why you might wish to change your name. What do you want to change it to?"
The guy: "Bill Lipschitz"
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 29, 2024 12:51 PM (XeU6L)
The best part about that joke was that actor Hal Linden's birth name was, in fact, Harry Lipschitz. He said he was driving o saw the name Linden on a water tower when he was deciding to make acting his career.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 29, 2024 01:01 PM (wyMQY)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 29, 2024 12:49 PM
Hick hop.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 29, 2024 01:01 PM (ZANHd)
I'll give big black Stirling a treat. Little Dagny seems uninterested in treats and prefers her dry food.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 29, 2024 12:59 PM (J2vNu)
My Dini & Smudge greet me at the door every night. They know I'm the keeper of the "morning treats" and "nighttime treats".
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 29, 2024 01:01 PM (N39Ws)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 29, 2024 01:00 PM (ExV1e)
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And we had the added sport of mocking Rush fans.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 29, 2024 01:01 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Sifty at October 29, 2024 01:01 PM (0thIS)
Posted by: Little Yoshi at October 29, 2024
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"MOTHRA! MOTHRA!!"
Posted by: Miniature Japanese Girls at October 29, 2024 01:01 PM (J2vNu)
The algorithm stole that from Side 2 of a Mixed Tape I made in the 7th grade.
Posted by: garrett at October 29, 2024 01:01 PM (wrmXa)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth
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Nope just cleaning and oiling weapons... well once in awhile a chuckle under my breath.
Posted by: Dougy Efhoff at October 29, 2024 01:01 PM (17s+e)
Dreams of water and flooding are dreams about chaos.
I am happy to year you are in less pain though.
Posted by: Kindltot
Thanks. Not surprised about the dream being about chaos. I have been spending a lot of time on X...
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 29, 2024 01:01 PM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 29, 2024 01:01 PM (OIg9i)
Posted by: Hope solo at October 29, 2024 12:44 PM
I read that really fast as a million "licks".
This place changes you...
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 29, 2024 01:02 PM (ZANHd)
https://tinyurl.com/5acu2v5p
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 29, 2024 12:06 PM (uLfN1)
How 'bout a purring Persian? NO PAGERS!
Posted by: haffhowershower at October 29, 2024 01:02 PM (NMT5x)
Posted by: Errorick Errorickson at October 29, 2024 01:02 PM (ArbhN)
Posted by: Broken Peach at October 29, 2024 01:02 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Sifty at October 29, 2024 01:02 PM (0thIS)
Someone tell Piper
Posted by: Diogenes
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Anniversary of the invasion of Grenada.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 29, 2024 01:03 PM (XeU6L)
I am waiting for one about Murderin' Joe.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 29, 2024 01:03 PM (ufFY8)
Posted by: Axeman at October 29, 2024 01:03 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 29, 2024 01:01 PM (t/2Uw)
I dream of hidden rooms with extensive water damage.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 29, 2024 01:03 PM (D7oie)
1. Does Trump overcome the cheat?
2. Does he take an unexpected state?
Posted by: Marie Curie
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Who knows? Despite working in the system for years, studying it for years, we are off the map here and I can only draw analogues from historical examples. When you combine an oncoming political crisis along with a massive financial crisis in government, bad things to happen.
Despite my distaste for it, I spent 2016-2018 doing background research on the colonial and Republic's laws delving into how the states dealt with individual rights and how that interacted with the preceding British concept of rights carried over to the colonies.
That included reading a lot about how slavery began to warp the entire rights dialogue prior to the US Civil War and then the fight over them after it during the Reconstruction.
Reading the minutes of the secession conventions, you come up with similar language that the sides are using today and reading the legal briefs of the time and legal opinions, ditto.
Posted by: whig at October 29, 2024 01:04 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 29, 2024 01:04 PM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 29, 2024 01:04 PM (RdRoZ)
Posted by: Hungry Haitian at October 29, 2024 01:04 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: garrett at October 29, 2024 01:04 PM (wrmXa)
I've never accepted that the betting sites aggregate is "just a subset" of the polls. The polls show the race tied, basically.
Posted by: mnw at October 29, 2024 01:04 PM (NLIak)
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 29, 2024 01:04 PM (wyMQY)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 29, 2024 01:04 PM (tT6L1)
He's just relentless in smoking these guys. And he doesn't let them get him off point.
I HATEW this fucking "mean Girls:" thing the media does. Their questions are "did you hear what Jimmy said and what is your reaction to that?"
Half the time the accusation is baseless - the person didn't even say what they are passing on. the other half it's irrelevant - who the fuck cares what Jimmy says?
Posted by: El Mariachi at October 29, 2024 01:05 PM (mvURQ)
Pffffft.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q45yicposyI
Posted by: Broken Peach at October 29, 2024 01:02 PM (xCA6C)
Those Spanish chicks are pretty hot, actually.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at October 29, 2024 01:05 PM (ufFY8)
Posted by: Those Kids Are On My Lawn Again! at October 29, 2024 01:05 PM (y+Syu)
Posted by: Soft Cell
Imelda May does an awesome version of that.
Posted by: garrett at October 29, 2024 01:04 PM (wrmXa)
Give me the Marilyn Manson version.
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 29, 2024 01:05 PM (CIS44)
Posted by: Kindltot at October 29, 2024 01:03 PM (D7oie)
That actually seems healthy to me. I think we all have those rooms in our head but we live like they're not there.
Posted by: ... at October 29, 2024 01:05 PM (hmOfI)
Posted by: Axeman at October 29, 2024
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Very well. My favorite food is Polski Wyrob pickles. Thank you very much.
Posted by: Very Young Marie Sklodowska at October 29, 2024 01:06 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 29, 2024 01:01 PM (t/2Uw)
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It's order. Then Joe Biden. Then his "fixing" something, and then chaos.
Like I said, it's a vision from God.
Posted by: Axeman at October 29, 2024 01:06 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 29, 2024 01:06 PM (G8YqU)
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent
***********
I spent about 25 years working for shipping companies operating between the States and PR. We shipped container loads of trash to San Juan to be disposed. Some of it was pretty nasty stuff that couldn't go in landfills in the US.
Posted by: Cosda at October 29, 2024 01:06 PM (SvfV7)
Posted by: Carpe Carp at October 29, 2024 01:06 PM (ArbhN)
That's gotta sting.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at October 29, 2024 12:57 PM (uBBbP
Nice Wet Leg ref there.
Posted by: Eromero at October 29, 2024 01:06 PM (jgmnb)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)
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Delegating authority to dedicated and competent subordinates to do a job is doing the job. He didn't negotiate the Abraham Accords that responsibility was delegated to his son-in-law.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 29, 2024 01:06 PM (bhSZH)
Posted by: garrett at October 29, 2024 01:07 PM (wrmXa)
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 29, 2024 01:07 PM (CIS44)
Should be fun.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 29, 2024 12:56 PM (GBKbO)
_________________________
Kamala is the one to certify the results. We all know how opportunistic she is, and how willing to take bad advice. It's not outside the realm of possibility that they would actually go down that road. My sense is that the competent strategists have abandoned ship to keep this off their resumes, and her current advisors are the radical, non-sensical ones. The true believers. And, when they think they are right about something (which is all the time)...they'll jump off a cliff to instill their wants on the rest of us.
So, we can joke about it. But, it's entirely possible.
Posted by: Orson at October 29, 2024 01:07 PM (dIske)
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 29, 2024 01:04 PM
Mine usually involve driving in reverse and my brakes not working properly. I don't want to know what that means.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 29, 2024 01:07 PM (ZANHd)
I don't like people who dump on overrated-band discussions.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 29, 2024 01:07 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Ripley at October 29, 2024 01:07 PM (GUOwU)
Posted by: whig at October 29, 2024 01:04 PM (ctrM5)
I have come to to the conclusion that if Trump wins the election quite clearly, and that if the Deep State tries to block him from taking office, then they country will break up fairly quickly. I'm not convinced that there will be any actual fighting; more like the Federal apparatus collapses in multiple ways and several areas of common interest work together, coalescing into successor states a few years down the line.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 29, 2024 01:07 PM (wyMQY)
That said I don't like bandwagon fans.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 29, 2024 01:07 PM (ndoNK)
Posted by: garrett at October 29, 2024 01:07 PM (wrmXa)
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 29, 2024
***
Last night I dreamed I was a mechanic, and I was advising a woman about the small but important things her car (a metallic green '70s Maverick sedan!) needed before she left on a road trip. For some reason I emphasized the EGR valve needed changing.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 29, 2024 01:07 PM (J2vNu)
The commies are already scurrying about from one "news" source to another for their cope fix. Losing the WaPo was a catastrophic event for them. "Who is next?!!!"
Tapper, Maddow, The View will drift away in time. Dust in the wind.
Posted by: mrp at October 29, 2024 01:08 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: El Mariachi at October 29, 2024 01:05 PM (mvURQ)
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Now compare that to pre-Trump Republicans running from the press and throwing any other conservative they can get their hands on under the bus to stop the bus rolling at them.
That's what Mitch and the GOP want to return to.
"HEY, now! I'm not as bad as OTHER REPUBLICANS!!"
Posted by: Axeman at October 29, 2024 01:08 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 29, 2024 01:07 PM (ZANHd)
We're not going back!
-Conservative Jen Rubin.
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 29, 2024 01:08 PM (CIS44)
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.....as the second coming of Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin as millions of career US State Department and UN appartchicks lose their jobs!!!!
Posted by: Serious US Media at October 29, 2024 01:08 PM (AqGFD)
ISTR that the main proponent of the calendar was later executed on the day to celebrate lettuce for his crimes against the Republic.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 29, 2024 01:08 PM (D7oie)
"to encourage cat lovers to celebrate the cat(s) in their life for the unconditional love and companionship they bestow upon us"
They don't know my cat at ALL.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 29, 2024 01:09 PM (WPL6O)
"Oh this must be a dream. It sure feels real."
Posted by: ... at October 29, 2024 01:09 PM (hmOfI)
Posted by: free tibet with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at October 29, 2024 12:53 PM
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Why is there never a "most accurately rated band" discussion?
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at October 29, 2024 01:09 PM (wzAuc)
Posted by: garrett at October 29, 2024 01:04 PM (wrmXa)
as long as she is not vaporing on about politics, Rowr!
Posted by: Kindltot at October 29, 2024 01:09 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: Sifty at October 29, 2024 01:09 PM (0thIS)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 29, 2024 01:07 PM
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Butt stuff.
Posted by: Sigmund Fteud at October 29, 2024 01:09 PM (KkAT0)
Posted by: Those Kids Are On My Lawn Again!
I mean...at least nobody's brought Prometheus up.
Posted by: Brother Tim, Keeper of the Tim Continuum at October 29, 2024 01:09 PM (OUMaO)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 29, 2024 01:07 PM (ndoNK)
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Well fuck you!
Posted by: Guys Trying to Make a Living on a Bandwagon at October 29, 2024 01:09 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Archimedes at October 29, 2024 01:07 PM (xCA6C)
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Someone doesn't like the airing of the grievances because we're not quoting sources?
Posted by: TexasDan at October 29, 2024 01:10 PM (rAsBA)
Posted by: Those Kids Are On My Lawn Again! at October 29, 2024 01:05 PM (y+Syu)
I'm gonna guess you're a big London Boys fan.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 29, 2024 01:10 PM (ExV1e)
My worst Mt Bike crashes are all from dreams. Luckily.
Posted by: garrett at October 29, 2024 01:10 PM (wrmXa)
Posted by: ...
No offense taken. I can and have been wrong before on items and could be this time. But, I get the feeling based on similar nations facing similar crises that the stage is set for a Cromwell, Franco, or worse yet Jacobites, Mao, or Lenin.
Maybe Trump will be a Lincoln as a legal tyrant during a time of cold or hot civil war. Maybe, the people of the US are really tired of the DC crew running the US into the ground. Maybe Trump can enable something like the German economic miracle post WWII that saved W. Germany and to some extent Europe itself from the Commies.
My crystal ball is cracked and showing only dim images of what might come based on past knowledge of other similar situations in other nations in the past.
But, as Bismarck said, "God has a special providence for fools, drunkards, and the United States of America."
Posted by: whig at October 29, 2024 01:10 PM (ctrM5)
"to encourage cat lovers to celebrate the cat(s) in their life for the unconditional love and companionship they bestow upon us"
Oh please.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 29, 2024 01:10 PM (v6JzV)
ISTR that the main proponent of the calendar was later executed on the day to celebrate lettuce for his crimes against the Republic.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 29, 2024 01:08 PM (D7oie)
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That could be F. Joe Biden if it was turnips instead ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024: Make The Glass Ceiling Great Again! at October 29, 2024 01:10 PM (QfVgE)
They don't know my cat at ALL.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 29, 2024
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Yeah, with my two, their affection is conditional upon the food appearing in the bowl. However, Stirling continues to show affection, sits on my lap and sleeps with me, even after dinner -- so he must like something about humans.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 29, 2024 01:11 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Lagwagon Fan at October 29, 2024 01:11 PM (wrmXa)
That said I don't like bandwagon fans.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 29, 2024 01:07 PM (ndoNK)
Even more pretentious and overrated than U2 is Green Day.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 29, 2024 01:11 PM (wyMQY)
Posted by: garrett at October 29, 2024 01:10 PM (wrmXa)
Stay away from cliffs. Bono might run you over.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 29, 2024 01:11 PM (RdRoZ)
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at October 29, 2024 01:09 PM (wzAuc)
I would say the Allman Brothers.
Posted by: ... at October 29, 2024 01:11 PM (hmOfI)
That's something the left either doesn't understand or pretends not to. Probably because totalitarian politics naturally attracts micromanagers.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 29, 2024 01:11 PM (2ocoG)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 29, 2024 01:11 PM (v6JzV)
NOOD
Kerry Picket: A Whistleblower Reveals that James Comey Ordered and Directed an "Off-the-Books" Operation, Before Any Official Criminal Investigation, Into Trump, Sending "Honey Pot" Agents Into His Campaign in 2015
NOOD!
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at October 29, 2024 01:12 PM (O7YUW)
Posted by: whig at October 29, 2024 12:55 PM
The only way out is through.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 29, 2024 01:12 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 29, 2024 01:12 PM (ndoNK)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 29, 2024 01:12 PM (J2vNu)
Searching for my room in a big hotel; can't find it; just keep walking down hotel corridors endlessly until I wake up.
Posted by: mnw at October 29, 2024 01:12 PM (NLIak)
Financial insolvency/Weimar inflation looms unless we can grow faster, slow/quit printing money, and reduce gubmint spending.
The wailing and gnashing of teeth when this happens will be deafening.
Pop the popcorn, buy more ammo, and become grey men.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 29, 2024 01:12 PM (ufFY8)
I don't like U2, but I *really* don't like Green Day. At least Blink-182 didn't try to claim their music was important to save everyone from George W. Bush.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 29, 2024 01:12 PM (2ocoG)
Snake Tapper, Ace Journalist at CNN, The Most Busted Name In News.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at October 29, 2024 01:12 PM (hKoQL)
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 29, 2024 01:07 PM (wyMQY)
There will be no geographical separation of the United States. Sane Americans outnumber the Commie nomenklatura by orders of magnitude. And they are more heavily armed than the Reds.
Posted by: mrp at October 29, 2024 01:12 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 29, 2024 01:12 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: whig at October 29, 2024 01:10 PM (ctrM5)
Well it took you a while (heh) but I think you actually answered in the last para here.
Posted by: ... at October 29, 2024 01:13 PM (hmOfI)
Posted by: Tom Servo
That's largely been my assumption, though there's going to be bloodshed in areas where score-settling inevitably takes place. I also expect a certain amount of ethnic cleansing on all sides.
Or maybe enough of the armed forces will say "nah, bro" and just squelch the shenanigans from the get-go. No idea at this stage.
Posted by: Brother Tim, Keeper of the Tim Continuum at October 29, 2024 01:13 PM (OUMaO)
Posted by: REO Speedwagon fan at October 29, 2024 01:13 PM (ArbhN)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 29, 2024 01:14 PM (v6JzV)
Posted by: Hope solo at October 29, 2024 12:44 PM (uBBbP)
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Heh
Posted by: Hope Solo's Roast Beef Wallet at October 29, 2024 01:14 PM (1FWWQ)
Tell me someone hasn't referred to her as 'Simple Jen' yet? If I actually used X, I would pound that nickname to try to make it stick. Especially with that freaking hair cut.
Posted by: Nelly at October 29, 2024 01:14 PM (bcr4y)
Posted by: Sifty
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Some are fans of both.
That's OK, bring it on.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 29, 2024 01:14 PM (AqGFD)
Posted by: Archer at October 29, 2024 01:14 PM (IDphi)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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Warmth. You can be replaced by a heating pad.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 29, 2024 01:14 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at October 29, 2024 01:15 PM (lUhzf)
My crystal ball is cracked and showing only dim images of what might come based on past knowledge of other similar situations in other nations in the past.
But, as Bismarck said, "God has a special providence for fools, drunkards, and the United States of America."
Posted by: whig at October 29, 2024 01:10 PM (ctrM5)
And the biggest factor in our favor is that the left has absolutely NO effective leadership at any level. When, as you say, you look at previous periods in history like this, you see that it is effective and focused leadership that tips the balance. (The Bolsheviks were awful, but Lenin and Trotsky were more effective leaders than anyone else on the scene at the time) Trump may not be a great strategic leader, but he's a very effectively charismatic emotional leader, and Vance shows promise as his back up. That's why I bet on the two of them prevailing.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 29, 2024 01:15 PM (wyMQY)
Dreams of water and flooding are dreams about chaos.
I am happy to year you are in less pain though.
Posted by: Kindltot
Thanks. Not surprised about the dream being about chaos. I have been spending a lot of time on X...
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 29, 2024 01:01 PM (t/2Uw)
Sometines I dream I am starting to drown but then I find out I can swim like aquaman and I go explore reefs and swim with dolphins.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at October 29, 2024 01:16 PM (uBBbP)
That's OK, bring it on.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 29, 2024 01:14 PM
A Rush fan AND a Cleveland Browns fan?
That'll get you into Heaven, you've already spent your time in H*ll.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 29, 2024 01:17 PM (a3Q+t)
It seems pretty clear that Kamala has lost the election based on the will of the people. But as we well know, that is mostly a meaning less exercise. The real election begins with the count manipulation, the legal contests, and then the fuckery when it gets time for certification in DC. Toss in the left trying to throw Trump in jail in the middle of this and a few Democrats sponsored Antifa for riots we just might end up with Hillary Clinton being appointed president for life. That last part is of course sarcasm. Maybe.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at October 29, 2024 01:17 PM (tPMOE)
Posted by: Tom Servo
Dunno. Once breakups happen it can be something like when the Brits left India and it was partitioned, like when the Soviet Union imploded, or a slide into something like Yugoslavia's or Somalia's disintegration.
Kind of like predicting earthquakes, you can see faultlines and measure strain but not necessarily predict when an earthquake will come or how strong it will be.
Posted by: whig at October 29, 2024 01:17 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
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Good thing that I can now claim publicly that I DO NOT have any information leading to the arrest and prosecution of Hillary Clinton.
Hear that NSA?
Posted by: whig at October 29, 2024 01:19 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Very possible. Sometimes apparent oncoming disasters are avoided; sometimes after several near misses, it comes anyway (US Civil War and WWI).
Posted by: whig at October 29, 2024 01:21 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Alex at October 29, 2024 01:24 PM (EcUen)
I would be happy to lose and it would be better spent than the hundred I gave to John McCain back in the day.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at October 29, 2024 01:28 PM (+H2BX)
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үou know what you're taⅼking about! Thanks
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