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Gun Thread: Last October Edition!
FUNdamentals
Are you so dedicated to your focus on fundamentals that you forget to have fun at the range? Remember, you can't have fundamentals withoutut having FUN! Practicing solid fundamentals and having fun are not mutually exclusive, so enjoy yourself at the range.
Bitch Slapping Us With History
From our pal mindful webworker a look at Carbine Williams by The History Guy.
Winchester Promo
Have any of you done something like this with your dad? Have any of you dads done anything like this with your boy or girl?
Gunsmith of Williamsburg
This is really good! Even without a gunsmith, Colonial Williamsburg is very cool and worth your time.
The History of the Hose Clamp
Tonight we celebrate our pal the hose clamp.
The Brain From Planet Arous
Six Pounds of Fury and Terror!
It's been almost exactly one year since we said goodbye to WeaselDog, and Fun Size Joe needed a sister, so please welcome our new little furry pal Unnamed Little Furry Pal! She's about three years old and weighs in at a solid six pounds. We brought her home yesterday from the local animal shelter and she makes FSJ look positively big by comparison. He is being a such good boy and sharing all of his stuff and our new little girl is settling right in!
Musical Interlude
Here is Albert King and SRV jamming Texas Flood. This is music, people.
Gun Basics 101
New video from the She Equips Herself gal! This week's video is on... well, just watch the video..
A: No. Please refer to Ooohm as "JSpicy" Anyhow...
When I'm not shaking my fist at imaginary kids on my lawn or wishing I had a lawn, my mind often wanders to the depressing state of online customer service. Today's know-nothing CEO's appear more interested in sucking out our personal data than delivering us beef jerky and booze. It's a damn shame. What does that have to do with Cigars you ask? As it happens, plenty. First of all, I'm usually smoking a cigar when I'm shaking my fist at imaginary kids. Secondly, I was a life-long BigCigar customer but got fed up with their fees, email spam, weird clubs and poor customer service. Then I happened upon a company that stocks the cigars I want, at competitive prices and great customer service. You think they'd be called Unicorn Cigars. Well you're wrong. They're called Fox Cigar company. Did I mention free shipping? For cigars. Yeah. Delivery is quick, packaging is great with humidification packs in every order. Stickers too! The hand written notes make my day. As for selection, I'm fancy so I buy my cigars in bundles and they carry my two favorites - Factory Smokes and Havana Q. If you're looking for good smokes, good prices, free shipping and an excellent customer experience give foxcigar.com a try. Now get the heck off my lawn!Excellent, JSpicy! Thanks for the recommendation! I've added the link below.
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Famous-smoke.com
Cigarsdaily.com
Neptunecigar.com
Smallbatchcigar.com
Bobalu Cigar Company
Cigarbid.com
Nicks Cigar World
Fox Cigar New! A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!
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Comments
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Good evening everyone
Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2024 07:00 PM (fwDg9)
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With the way that pumpkin is pointing that pistol, he's liable to blow the margins if he pulls the trigger.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 27, 2024 07:02 PM (BpYfr)
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Gub!
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 27, 2024 07:02 PM (mH6SG)
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So, early, AND I missed it? BUMMER.
Posted by: GWB at October 27, 2024 07:03 PM (E8qwH)
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NOT FIRST!!!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 27, 2024 07:03 PM (0XVad)
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Good evening horde. The gub stuff is good, but the hose clamp history is pure bonus content. Thanks Weasel!
Posted by: TRex at October 27, 2024 07:03 PM (IQ6Gq)
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It's the Great Gubkin, Charlie Brown's Dildo!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 27, 2024 07:04 PM (Wnv9h)
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You let Ace bump a Gun Thread for an a**a**ination attempt just once and all heck breaks loose with the Gun Thread.
Posted by: GWB at October 27, 2024 07:06 PM (E8qwH)
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As you read the gubthread tonight please remember to pray for the Madison Square Garden rally.
Posted by: Eromero at October 27, 2024 07:06 PM (LHPAg)
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Welcome Unnamed Little Furry Pal!!!
I defer submitting a name as there are others in the Horde that have a knack for that.
Weasel, how is FSJ taking the newest member?
I defer submitting a name as there are others in the Horde that have a knack for that.
Weasel, how is FSJ taking the newest member?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 27, 2024 07:07 PM (0XVad)
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Granddaughters.
I love mine.
Ask them the rule.
Their answer: Two in the pumphouse, one in the switch box!
I love mine.
Ask them the rule.
Their answer: Two in the pumphouse, one in the switch box!
Posted by: Diogenes at October 27, 2024 07:07 PM (W/lyH)
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It should really be called "The Brain from Planet Aroused." He (Gor) spends a lot of time drooling over John Agar's wife.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 27, 2024 07:07 PM (CHHv1)
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And I think that last pic is a Junior TXMoMe. Raising up the next generation - like a sequel or something.
Posted by: GWB at October 27, 2024 07:08 PM (E8qwH)
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2024 07:08 PM (RG6z4)
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I have to watch this Williamsburg video later
Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2024 07:08 PM (fwDg9)
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It's been almost exactly one year since we said goodbye to WeaselDog, and Fun Size Joe needed a sister, so please welcome our new little furry pal Unnamed Little Furry Pal!
Sure miss the cozy cave reports on WD and FSJ. Take care of your little sis, FSJ.
Sure miss the cozy cave reports on WD and FSJ. Take care of your little sis, FSJ.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 27, 2024 07:09 PM (mH6SG)
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What a gorgeous girl, Weasel! She's only beginning to realize how lucky she is (and you how lucky you are).
What does WeaselCatV2 think so far?
As for name, how about Heckler? And then, when you find another playmate for them, Koch is the obvious next name.
Or perhaps Vickie, a diminutive of the first name of the hostel on Weasel Acres?
What does WeaselCatV2 think so far?
As for name, how about Heckler? And then, when you find another playmate for them, Koch is the obvious next name.
Or perhaps Vickie, a diminutive of the first name of the hostel on Weasel Acres?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2024 07:10 PM (a3Q+t)
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Tonight we celebrate our pal the hose clamp.
Which you will NOT use to secure your scopes! Except, perhaps, as a Burning Times expedient - until you can shoot that guy for his scope rings.
Which you will NOT use to secure your scopes! Except, perhaps, as a Burning Times expedient - until you can shoot that guy for his scope rings.
Posted by: GWB at October 27, 2024 07:10 PM (E8qwH)
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Congrats on the new pup! Name her Kestrel.
Posted by: TRex at October 27, 2024 07:10 PM (IQ6Gq)
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That Williamsburg video is great. I'm so 29 that I have it on VHS.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 27, 2024 07:12 PM (Wnv9h)
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Hello, Weasel!
Posted by: Ed L at October 27, 2024 07:12 PM (yRXSd)
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Thanks again for the competent and well-organized range activity at the MoMe.
Now I just have to figure out why I didn't shoot as well there as I do at my home ranges.
Speaking of which, it looks as though the Arizona summer will be over on Tuesday, which means I get to go back to my beloved outdoor range. Very excited. Next skill on my agenda is drawing and firing from a holster, and I prefer to get started with that with no witnesses to my incompetence.
Now I just have to figure out why I didn't shoot as well there as I do at my home ranges.
Speaking of which, it looks as though the Arizona summer will be over on Tuesday, which means I get to go back to my beloved outdoor range. Very excited. Next skill on my agenda is drawing and firing from a holster, and I prefer to get started with that with no witnesses to my incompetence.
Posted by: Splunge at October 27, 2024 07:13 PM (hmKaK)
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Hi horde!
Made it to the range today - practicing fundamentals! Picked up a S&W 22lr Victory to better practice my terrible trigger control and save a little on more expensive ammo. I didn't clean it or anything before I went. It was finicky from the start - on the 10th round the rear of the casing blew off and the rest of the casing stayed in the barrel. I didn't have any tools with me so I packed it up. I have heard 22lr pistols can be a little choosy on ammo especially subsonic. Has anyone had that happen to them? I felt the back blast on my face. I wasn't sure where to send pictures so I sent them to Ace to pass on to Weasel. To make matters worse I was shooting my 9mm Shield and a spent casing bounced off the wall and stuck between my safety glasses and cheek. I don't think the shooting Gods were in my favor today!
Made it to the range today - practicing fundamentals! Picked up a S&W 22lr Victory to better practice my terrible trigger control and save a little on more expensive ammo. I didn't clean it or anything before I went. It was finicky from the start - on the 10th round the rear of the casing blew off and the rest of the casing stayed in the barrel. I didn't have any tools with me so I packed it up. I have heard 22lr pistols can be a little choosy on ammo especially subsonic. Has anyone had that happen to them? I felt the back blast on my face. I wasn't sure where to send pictures so I sent them to Ace to pass on to Weasel. To make matters worse I was shooting my 9mm Shield and a spent casing bounced off the wall and stuck between my safety glasses and cheek. I don't think the shooting Gods were in my favor today!
Posted by: Lurking in Garland at October 27, 2024 07:13 PM (QYnea)
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Awww...a new Weasel Dog!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 27, 2024 07:14 PM (Wnv9h)
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19 Congrats on the new pup! Name her Kestrel.
Posted by: TRex at October 27, 2024 07:10 PM
No, I have a better name, Fundamentals!!!!!
Posted by: TRex at October 27, 2024 07:10 PM
No, I have a better name, Fundamentals!!!!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 27, 2024 07:14 PM (0XVad)
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18 Tonight we celebrate our pal the hose clamp.
Which you will NOT use to secure your scopes! Except, perhaps, as a Burning Times expedient - until you can shoot that guy for his scope rings.
Posted by: GWB at October 27, 2024 07:10 PM (E8qwH)
Crossing threads - the second attempted assassin used ELECTRICAL TAPE to secure a sight to his SKS.
Which you will NOT use to secure your scopes! Except, perhaps, as a Burning Times expedient - until you can shoot that guy for his scope rings.
Posted by: GWB at October 27, 2024 07:10 PM (E8qwH)
Crossing threads - the second attempted assassin used ELECTRICAL TAPE to secure a sight to his SKS.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at October 27, 2024 07:14 PM (jMZpU)
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I did something goofy this week and bought an HK P7M8. Spare mags are $130 used and I may have to live in my car.
I need you to tell me I didn’t do something stupid.
I need you to tell me I didn’t do something stupid.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 27, 2024 07:14 PM (P+Tnw)
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GT stomped?
Hey, weasel, et al!
Hey, weasel, et al!
Posted by: RI Red at October 27, 2024 07:14 PM (sGZEA)
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That's wonderful news about the new doggie!! I've always had two, they're so much happier as a pair when you're away from home.
Posted by: ck at October 27, 2024 07:14 PM (nMOLw)
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Howdy!
Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at October 27, 2024 07:15 PM (sAmhv)
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Adorable pup, Weasel!
Posted by: Lizzy at October 27, 2024 07:15 PM (scDBq)
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And good evening gubthreaders and all the ships at sea! I have gub stuff this week!
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at October 27, 2024 07:16 PM (jMZpU)
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This is a week late, as the TxMoMe was a week ago, but Weasel asked for reports. He gets one.
I am an absolute novice with firearms. I never shot a pistol until TxMoMe '22, and now I look forward to the opportunity each year.
The experienced shooters offer their guns and guidance. I worked with a 9mm for all three of my sessions. I learned a better way to place my thumbs when gripping the pistol and how to use a magazine loader. My arm quivers when extended, and I learned how to crouch slightly in an attempt to ease that.
And in regard to safety? My lands! The gun remains unloaded and in a case until arrival at the range table. Only then do I insert the magazine.
Out of two dozen shots total, I think I hit the target six times. Once I hit the target above the one I wanted.
I enjoyed myself thoroughly. If I had any regret, it was that I did not return to the range more often.
I look forward to TxMoMe X.
I am an absolute novice with firearms. I never shot a pistol until TxMoMe '22, and now I look forward to the opportunity each year.
The experienced shooters offer their guns and guidance. I worked with a 9mm for all three of my sessions. I learned a better way to place my thumbs when gripping the pistol and how to use a magazine loader. My arm quivers when extended, and I learned how to crouch slightly in an attempt to ease that.
And in regard to safety? My lands! The gun remains unloaded and in a case until arrival at the range table. Only then do I insert the magazine.
Out of two dozen shots total, I think I hit the target six times. Once I hit the target above the one I wanted.
I enjoyed myself thoroughly. If I had any regret, it was that I did not return to the range more often.
I look forward to TxMoMe X.
Posted by: Weak Geek at October 27, 2024 07:16 PM (p/isN)
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2024 07:16 PM (RG6z4)
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I defer submitting a name as there are others in the Horde that have a knack for that.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 27, 2024 07:07 PM
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No, I have a better name, Fundamentals!!!!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 27, 2024 07:14 PM
Which one is the real Scuba_Dude?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 27, 2024 07:07 PM
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No, I have a better name, Fundamentals!!!!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 27, 2024 07:14 PM
Which one is the real Scuba_Dude?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2024 07:16 PM (a3Q+t)
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35 Which one is the real Scuba_Dude?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2024 07:16 PM
Gotta keep them guessing. ;-)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2024 07:16 PM
Gotta keep them guessing. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 27, 2024 07:18 PM (0XVad)
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I'm going to watch the videos, now.
I have no range report this week, as it was spent prepping for big events at church for Reformation celebrations. I cooked big food and got to pretend to act.
Thanks for the Gun Thread, Weasel.
I have no range report this week, as it was spent prepping for big events at church for Reformation celebrations. I cooked big food and got to pretend to act.
Thanks for the Gun Thread, Weasel.
Posted by: GWB at October 27, 2024 07:18 PM (E8qwH)
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Cute girl!
You could consider calling her Cleo. And if you ever get another boy, he can be Antney!
You could consider calling her Cleo. And if you ever get another boy, he can be Antney!
Posted by: haffhowershower at October 27, 2024 07:19 PM (NMT5x)
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2024 07:20 PM (RG6z4)
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27, sniffy, there is a newly made cline if the p7 announced but not h&k made. Turkish maybe?. If they do make it, that might be a source for mags. Saw the post either at ammoland dot com or the firearm blog.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 07:20 PM (ctrM5)
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Clone, not cline
on phone
on phone
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 07:21 PM (ctrM5)
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Colonial Williamsburg gunsmithing: It was still around in 1989 when I visited there. I had a discussion with the gunsmith about why double barreled pistols and muskets weren't very common (more expensive than making two single barrel weapons, weight problems). The gunsmith said that double barrel weapons you saw in the movies were almost entirely a figment of Hollywood. Double barrel shotguns didn't really enter the stage until the 19th century according to him.
Posted by: Ed L at October 27, 2024 07:21 PM (yRXSd)
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Way back when, Kirsten Joy did some stuff for TTAG. In an article, she casually mentioned the 30.06 was "ballistically inefficient."
Holy cow, I never saw so many people get so offended so quickly for someone stating the obvious.
Anyway, way back when, with her .22, she did a trick shot at an egg, off hand, at quite a distance, I don't remember how far, just that it was quite the shot.
Seems like a very nice young lady. She also did some shooting videos with Adam Baldwin.
Thanks again, Weasel!
Holy cow, I never saw so many people get so offended so quickly for someone stating the obvious.
Anyway, way back when, with her .22, she did a trick shot at an egg, off hand, at quite a distance, I don't remember how far, just that it was quite the shot.
Seems like a very nice young lady. She also did some shooting videos with Adam Baldwin.
Thanks again, Weasel!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 27, 2024 07:21 PM (tT6L1)
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To each and every one that gave so much of themselves to provide safety and instruction on the ranges thank you doesn't cover it.
This is the most amazing group of people. I thank you all for making MoMe number 9 another success.
This is the most amazing group of people. I thank you all for making MoMe number 9 another success.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2024 07:21 PM (t8vHj)
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I did something goofy this week and bought an HK P7M8. Spare mags are $130 used and I may have to live in my car.
I need you to tell me I didn’t do something stupid.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 27, 2024 07:14 PM
Well, first it's a H&K. So, not stupid (unless, *maybe*, the Mk. 23)
Second, it's a P7. A very desirable piece, and extremely well-regarded by its aficionados.
So, no, you did something admirable, not stupid.
I need you to tell me I didn’t do something stupid.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 27, 2024 07:14 PM
Well, first it's a H&K. So, not stupid (unless, *maybe*, the Mk. 23)
Second, it's a P7. A very desirable piece, and extremely well-regarded by its aficionados.
So, no, you did something admirable, not stupid.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2024 07:21 PM (a3Q+t)
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I did something goofy this week and bought an HK P7M8. Spare mags are $130 used and I may have to live in my car.
I need you to tell me I didn’t do something stupid.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 27, 2024 07:14 PM (P+Tnw)
As long as you didn't spend the rest of your money on a tiny watch, no, it wasn't stupid.
It might have been unwise to spend that money if there's a bag limit on hobos where you live, or fire restrictions such that you can't cook them.
I need you to tell me I didn’t do something stupid.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 27, 2024 07:14 PM (P+Tnw)
As long as you didn't spend the rest of your money on a tiny watch, no, it wasn't stupid.
It might have been unwise to spend that money if there's a bag limit on hobos where you live, or fire restrictions such that you can't cook them.
Posted by: GWB at October 27, 2024 07:21 PM (E8qwH)
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So, I finished loading my first-ever 50 rounds yesterday. I performed one step a day for a week, starting with sorting and tumbling the brass. I can see that this will eventually be a relaxing and fun pastime but loading those first 50 was a nerve-wracking experience. I measured, calibrated, eyeballed, checked and rechecked every step. I know I did everything right, but there's always that nagging feeling that I missed something. I'll know for sure when I get to the range next week. I feel like Oppenheimer waiting on the first A bomb test.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at October 27, 2024 07:22 PM (Hdixl)
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So focused on end of season chores that I forgot it was last Sunday of the Month. I missed the Aspirin Shoot!
But I did bank a bunch of Marital Capital.
But I did bank a bunch of Marital Capital.
Posted by: RI Red at October 27, 2024 07:22 PM (sGZEA)
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Optics - like a spotting scope. We brought one to Texas and it is a MUST for shooting distances.
Pluses: it came with an adapter to hold a phone on the eyepiece - this was very useful as it kept you from having to lean over into the eyepiece. And we could video our shots way out there. Critical in confirming sra blaster hitting that 500 yd steel.
Minuses - it came with a small tripod - we set it up on the flatbed which gave it a good enough height especially with the camera adapter. But that meant the concussion from the shot shook the scope and made it tough to see the target clearly at first. I order a tall tripod so we can use it from ground level.
Pluses: it came with an adapter to hold a phone on the eyepiece - this was very useful as it kept you from having to lean over into the eyepiece. And we could video our shots way out there. Critical in confirming sra blaster hitting that 500 yd steel.
Minuses - it came with a small tripod - we set it up on the flatbed which gave it a good enough height especially with the camera adapter. But that meant the concussion from the shot shook the scope and made it tough to see the target clearly at first. I order a tall tripod so we can use it from ground level.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at October 27, 2024 07:22 PM (jMZpU)
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49 Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at October 27, 2024 07:22 PM
Consider a tripod like I and others had at the MoMe. Much more stable.
Consider a tripod like I and others had at the MoMe. Much more stable.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 27, 2024 07:24 PM (0XVad)
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New doggie needs a short name, something that is easily called.
She looks mischievous; I'd call her Trixie. Emphasis on "tricks."
She looks mischievous; I'd call her Trixie. Emphasis on "tricks."
Posted by: Weak Geek at October 27, 2024 07:24 PM (p/isN)
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And I second Scoobs - Funda!
Posted by: RI Red at October 27, 2024 07:24 PM (sGZEA)
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Optics - like a spotting scope. We brought one to Texas and it is a MUST for shooting distances.
Pffft. That's why you have scorers in the pits below the targets.
Plus, it's extra incentive to avoid them waving Maggie's Drawers after a shot.
Pffft. That's why you have scorers in the pits below the targets.
Plus, it's extra incentive to avoid them waving Maggie's Drawers after a shot.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2024 07:25 PM (a3Q+t)
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23, Lurking in Garland.
22 lr case blowing is pretty rare with good ammo. A quick and dirty way to clean at the range is a couple of drops of bore solvent on a bores that you pull through the bore and chamber.
A personal observation is that 22 lr semi autos are ammo sensitive to the point of finding one or two makes and sticking with them
22 lr case blowing is pretty rare with good ammo. A quick and dirty way to clean at the range is a couple of drops of bore solvent on a bores that you pull through the bore and chamber.
A personal observation is that 22 lr semi autos are ammo sensitive to the point of finding one or two makes and sticking with them
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 07:25 PM (ctrM5)
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We went shooting today with sra blaster's sister and, well, she's a newbie and it takes a bit of getting used to.
We kept drilling her on the FUNDAMENTALS.
We kept drilling her on the FUNDAMENTALS.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at October 27, 2024 07:26 PM (jMZpU)
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But I did bank a bunch of Marital Capital.
Posted by: RI Red at October 27, 2024 07:22 PM
Sadly, they're like Attaboys in the workplace.
1,000 Attaboys = 1 Aw, sh*t.
Posted by: RI Red at October 27, 2024 07:22 PM
Sadly, they're like Attaboys in the workplace.
1,000 Attaboys = 1 Aw, sh*t.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2024 07:27 PM (a3Q+t)
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Consider a tripod like I and others had at the MoMe. Much more stable.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 27, 2024 07:24 PM (0XVad)
Yup. I really liked yours pretty sweet setup!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 27, 2024 07:24 PM (0XVad)
Yup. I really liked yours pretty sweet setup!
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at October 27, 2024 07:27 PM (jMZpU)
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Oh, I forgot to mention:
I wonder how much the cows weigh after ingesting those lead-laden hay bales.
I wonder how much the cows weigh after ingesting those lead-laden hay bales.
Posted by: Weak Geek at October 27, 2024 07:27 PM (p/isN)
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But that meant the concussion from the shot shook the scope and made it tough to see the target clearly at first.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at October 27, 2024 07:22 PM (jMZpU)
No wobbly shit! Remember that!
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at October 27, 2024 07:22 PM (jMZpU)
No wobbly shit! Remember that!
Posted by: GWB at October 27, 2024 07:28 PM (E8qwH)
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I have been informed by Bride of PI, that I need to buy her a LOT more .22LR ammo.
Question for the Morons and 'ettes that shoot their .22 pistols at a high volume.
Is the preferred ammo lead or "copper plated"?
(For gun cleaning and gun longevity purposes.)
She is shooting steel plates and paper. Her little 6" revolver performs very well on CCI Standard Velocity.
Question for the Morons and 'ettes that shoot their .22 pistols at a high volume.
Is the preferred ammo lead or "copper plated"?
(For gun cleaning and gun longevity purposes.)
She is shooting steel plates and paper. Her little 6" revolver performs very well on CCI Standard Velocity.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 27, 2024 07:28 PM (HlyYF)
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at October 27, 2024 07:30 PM (jMZpU)
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Whig>>>
You probably saw a P7Pro. They are in Texas. They have put out a few guns, made from old German parts and some new parts but seem to be gearing up for full production of all new clones. I’ ve been keeping an eye on them because they are advertising some new features like optic cuts and titanium frames. With all the new goodies, they aren’t cheaper than original. But a basic clone is cheaper.
I plan on shooting mine. It was advertised on gunbroker as new old stock, but it had some obvious blemishes. I didn’t want a safe queen. Just wish spare mags weren’t so hard to come by. Strangely, ProMag seems to be the only ones producing them now, so it looks like I’m getting some pro mags.
You probably saw a P7Pro. They are in Texas. They have put out a few guns, made from old German parts and some new parts but seem to be gearing up for full production of all new clones. I’ ve been keeping an eye on them because they are advertising some new features like optic cuts and titanium frames. With all the new goodies, they aren’t cheaper than original. But a basic clone is cheaper.
I plan on shooting mine. It was advertised on gunbroker as new old stock, but it had some obvious blemishes. I didn’t want a safe queen. Just wish spare mags weren’t so hard to come by. Strangely, ProMag seems to be the only ones producing them now, so it looks like I’m getting some pro mags.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 27, 2024 07:33 PM (P+Tnw)
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Just read the content about ULFP.
Great news for Weasel, WW, and FSJ!
On the drive back from the MoMe, my wife was asking for background on all of her new Moron friends.
I told her that Weasel lost one of his Chihuahuas last year, but added that I thought he might rescue another one at some point.
She will be tickled to hear that bit of news.
Great news for Weasel, WW, and FSJ!
On the drive back from the MoMe, my wife was asking for background on all of her new Moron friends.
I told her that Weasel lost one of his Chihuahuas last year, but added that I thought he might rescue another one at some point.
She will be tickled to hear that bit of news.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 27, 2024 07:33 PM (HlyYF)
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57 Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at October 27, 2024 07:27 PM
The tripod and head are made by Manfrotto. It is pricey but Weasel approved.
I think the tripod and head cost more than the scope. That I will probably upgrade in a year or so.
The tripod and head are made by Manfrotto. It is pricey but Weasel approved.
I think the tripod and head cost more than the scope. That I will probably upgrade in a year or so.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 27, 2024 07:34 PM (0XVad)
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I was going to suggest naming the dog wobbly shit.
When she misbehaves, "No, wobbly shit!"
Perhaps there's a reason I don't typically post on the pet thread...
When she misbehaves, "No, wobbly shit!"
Perhaps there's a reason I don't typically post on the pet thread...
Posted by: TRex at October 27, 2024 07:34 PM (IQ6Gq)
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The thing that makes me happiest when shooting these days, other than shooting itself, is when I have to move further away from the target because I'm too inclined to forgive the mistakes at my current distance.
Last time, I went out to 20 yards with my favorite pistol, for the first time. It's a great feeling.
Last time, I went out to 20 yards with my favorite pistol, for the first time. It's a great feeling.
Posted by: Splunge at October 27, 2024 07:34 PM (hmKaK)
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Sniffy and whig, P7Pro is the name of the outfit that's brought back the P7 platform using HK frames and US made parts. They might be your best shot for additional magazines. The Firearms Blog had an article about them earlier this month.
Sniffy, the HK P7 is a great shooter if you can get used to the squeeze cocker mechanism in the front strap. If your P7M8 is in decent condition, most P7 variants have done pretty well on the collector's market as "investments."
Sniffy, the HK P7 is a great shooter if you can get used to the squeeze cocker mechanism in the front strap. If your P7M8 is in decent condition, most P7 variants have done pretty well on the collector's market as "investments."
Posted by: Ed L at October 27, 2024 07:35 PM (yRXSd)
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54, Thanks Whig.
I heard about that also. Finding the right ammo. I had some Winchester 555 I should have brought as well and tried them both. But they are both a couple of years old and I have used them on my 22 rifle without any issue.
Thanks again
I heard about that also. Finding the right ammo. I had some Winchester 555 I should have brought as well and tried them both. But they are both a couple of years old and I have used them on my 22 rifle without any issue.
Thanks again
Posted by: Lurking in Garland at October 27, 2024 07:36 PM (QYnea)
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I think I have decided on what's going under sra blaster's Christmas tree. Don't want to jinx it because I am currently high bidder on it on gunbroker, but I think a Howa 1500 APC in .308 - 24 inch heavy barrel. The one with the American flag pattern on it.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at October 27, 2024 07:37 PM (jMZpU)
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Range report. Failure after success edition. I made it to the range Friday to check zero before the silhouette match on Saturday. Per WeaselWisdom, I noted DA and Temp that morning, plugged the information in to my app to get elevation readings then headed over to shoot the practice targets after checking zero. I got everything dialed in and properly noted in notebook and left feeling like I was on it.
Before the match, I noted the DA and temp before I started shooting, and was pleased to note the readings had hardly changed from the previous day.
Then the match started. I went 10 for 20 on a day I should have easily scored 17 out of 20 or better. I didn't feel too bad, as a couple of our better shooters, who I thought should have gone 20 for 20 struggled to a winning score of 17.
As I was leaving, I was contemplating my failures and realized during the match I was vertically stringing shots. And that tiny little light bulb went off which said, "Dummy, Weasel has mentioned multiple times vertical stringing means rear rest issue." Arggh.
Before the match, I noted the DA and temp before I started shooting, and was pleased to note the readings had hardly changed from the previous day.
Then the match started. I went 10 for 20 on a day I should have easily scored 17 out of 20 or better. I didn't feel too bad, as a couple of our better shooters, who I thought should have gone 20 for 20 struggled to a winning score of 17.
As I was leaving, I was contemplating my failures and realized during the match I was vertically stringing shots. And that tiny little light bulb went off which said, "Dummy, Weasel has mentioned multiple times vertical stringing means rear rest issue." Arggh.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 27, 2024 07:38 PM (tT6L1)
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Off topic comment.
Splunge, I missed the Food Thread in real time. Thanks for posting Mrs. Splunge's cookie recipe!
Splunge, I missed the Food Thread in real time. Thanks for posting Mrs. Splunge's cookie recipe!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 27, 2024 07:38 PM (HlyYF)
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Congrats on your lovely new pup! Wonderful addition to the family. Paws is a nice name -- fingers crossed.
Posted by: Mrs JTB at October 27, 2024 07:39 PM (yTvNw)
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I plan on shooting mine. It was advertised on gunbroker as new old stock, but it had some obvious blemishes. I didn’t want a safe queen. Just wish spare mags weren’t so hard to come by. Strangely, ProMag seems to be the only ones producing them now, so it looks like I’m getting some pro mags.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
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ProMags are hit or miss in quality. Buy one to see if your P7 likes it. Often people have had problems with ProMags, more if they are double stack which the P7 is not.
Useful manual of arms to the one carry gun crowd. but not one that is readily transferable to other handguns.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
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ProMags are hit or miss in quality. Buy one to see if your P7 likes it. Often people have had problems with ProMags, more if they are double stack which the P7 is not.
Useful manual of arms to the one carry gun crowd. but not one that is readily transferable to other handguns.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 07:40 PM (ctrM5)
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“ The Firearms Blog had an article about them earlier this month.”
The LGS I shoot at is the one James Reeves owns. I bought my P210 carry from there and it’s the one he shoots in the video. Not a very popular model, but I like it.
The LGS I shoot at is the one James Reeves owns. I bought my P210 carry from there and it’s the one he shoots in the video. Not a very popular model, but I like it.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 27, 2024 07:40 PM (P+Tnw)
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By the way, don't know if i mentioned it, but, I was pleased to meet you and SRA at the MoMe, blaster.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 27, 2024 07:40 PM (tT6L1)
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I bought a cheap, ambidextrous nylon holster. Want to try different carry positions before committing to a pricey holster.
Any good or bad experiences with Lock Leather? Or is Kydex the way to go?
Any good or bad experiences with Lock Leather? Or is Kydex the way to go?
Posted by: haffhowershower at October 27, 2024 07:42 PM (NMT5x)
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I can get 5 promags new for the cost of one used. I figure if just 2 are good, I come out ahead.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 27, 2024 07:43 PM (P+Tnw)
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54, Thanks Whig.
I heard about that also. Finding the right ammo. I had some Winchester 555 I should have brought as well and tried them both. But they are both a couple of years old and I have used them on my 22 rifle without any issue.
Thanks again
Posted by: Lurking in Garland
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I would try the S&W forum which are useful for a particular S&W firearm and its particulars like preferred ammo. Nice folks (unless you start dissing S&W lol) and helpful on a lot of little things that can trip up someone.
Use to frequent it years ago but like a lot of things, active posting is not what I do much on firearms sites anymore.
That being said, copper washing aka plated or the newer polymer coated 22 LR can cut down on the muck generated from lead bullets and are useful for longer strings of fire than something like Thunderbird.
Ironically, some people get their best accuracy with that Remington rimfire cartridge.
I heard about that also. Finding the right ammo. I had some Winchester 555 I should have brought as well and tried them both. But they are both a couple of years old and I have used them on my 22 rifle without any issue.
Thanks again
Posted by: Lurking in Garland
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I would try the S&W forum which are useful for a particular S&W firearm and its particulars like preferred ammo. Nice folks (unless you start dissing S&W lol) and helpful on a lot of little things that can trip up someone.
Use to frequent it years ago but like a lot of things, active posting is not what I do much on firearms sites anymore.
That being said, copper washing aka plated or the newer polymer coated 22 LR can cut down on the muck generated from lead bullets and are useful for longer strings of fire than something like Thunderbird.
Ironically, some people get their best accuracy with that Remington rimfire cartridge.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 07:44 PM (ctrM5)
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77 I can get 5 promags new for the cost of one used. I figure if just 2 are good, I come out ahead.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
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Well, the bad ones you can throw at the paper target and make a big hole in it.
That being said, often they are the only ones making affordable new mag copies of some firearms no longer supported by the market.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
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Well, the bad ones you can throw at the paper target and make a big hole in it.
That being said, often they are the only ones making affordable new mag copies of some firearms no longer supported by the market.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 07:45 PM (ctrM5)
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I am calling it an early night. I do not have to work tomorrow but I am feeling a bit under the weather.
Thank you Weasel for this Sunday evening meeting place. Wishing you the best with the newest pup. Her real life name should be what WW and you like. But for her gub thread name I will toss FUNdamentals into the ring.
Have a good night all!!!
Thank you Weasel for this Sunday evening meeting place. Wishing you the best with the newest pup. Her real life name should be what WW and you like. But for her gub thread name I will toss FUNdamentals into the ring.
Have a good night all!!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 27, 2024 07:46 PM (0XVad)
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Never take a chance on a questionable magazine brand. IMHO.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 27, 2024 07:47 PM (mH6SG)
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My brother bought a box of P7s when they were imported as surplus back whenever that was. Not sure if he shoots them much.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 27, 2024 07:47 PM (X3SL3)
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75 By the way, don't know if i mentioned it, but, I was pleased to meet you and SRA at the MoMe, blaster.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 27, 2024 07:40 PM (tT6L1)
Us too you, blake!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 27, 2024 07:40 PM (tT6L1)
Us too you, blake!
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at October 27, 2024 07:47 PM (jMZpU)
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Pretty sure the pumpkin is holding a classic P226.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at October 27, 2024 07:48 PM (jMZpU)
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71 Off topic comment.
Splunge, I missed the Food Thread in real time. Thanks for posting Mrs. Splunge's cookie recipe!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 27, 2024 07:38 PM (HlyYF)
You're welcome. Enjoy!
Splunge, I missed the Food Thread in real time. Thanks for posting Mrs. Splunge's cookie recipe!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 27, 2024 07:38 PM (HlyYF)
You're welcome. Enjoy!
Posted by: Splunge at October 27, 2024 07:48 PM (hmKaK)
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I feel like Oppenheimer waiting on the first A bomb test.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen
S'Okay, everyone feels that way starting out and often I still do when reloading for a new round to me. Have two handgun cartridges that I have to start reloading for soon and not looking forward to it.
32-20 with its damn slight neck with often unobtanium brass and the 40 S&W which is a ticky cartridge due to neck tension and tendency to pressure issues.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen
S'Okay, everyone feels that way starting out and often I still do when reloading for a new round to me. Have two handgun cartridges that I have to start reloading for soon and not looking forward to it.
32-20 with its damn slight neck with often unobtanium brass and the 40 S&W which is a ticky cartridge due to neck tension and tendency to pressure issues.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 07:49 PM (ctrM5)
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Does TripleK make P7 mags? If so they won’t be giving them away. I’ve forgotten how but I knew one of the kids who I think make up TripleK’s owners, or did. A friend definitely knows Kurt, think that’s the one.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 27, 2024 07:50 PM (X3SL3)
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Any good or bad experiences with Lock Leather? Or is Kydex the way to go?
Posted by: haffhowershower at October 27, 2024 07:42 PM (NMT5x)
I found a couple of places that will put a leather lining in a kydex holster. I’ve got one that is leather lined on the inside and suede on the outside. Makes it a little thicker put it looks cool. One of the places was Phalanx Concelment. I can’t remember the other.
Posted by: haffhowershower at October 27, 2024 07:42 PM (NMT5x)
I found a couple of places that will put a leather lining in a kydex holster. I’ve got one that is leather lined on the inside and suede on the outside. Makes it a little thicker put it looks cool. One of the places was Phalanx Concelment. I can’t remember the other.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 27, 2024 07:50 PM (P+Tnw)
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82 My brother bought a box of P7s when they were imported as surplus back whenever that was. Not sure if he shoots them much.
Posted by: rhomboid
He could probably get some good coin on it by selling them but run of the mill examples suffer some price loss when you suddenly get new clones competing with the original.
I notice original used High Powers are declining in price at auction sites if not in top condition or some sort of collectible (Inglis WWII, commemorative, etc. ).
Posted by: rhomboid
He could probably get some good coin on it by selling them but run of the mill examples suffer some price loss when you suddenly get new clones competing with the original.
I notice original used High Powers are declining in price at auction sites if not in top condition or some sort of collectible (Inglis WWII, commemorative, etc. ).
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 07:51 PM (ctrM5)
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SOB Van Owen, congratulations and well done!
Reloading is great for various reasons.
Extra care is never a mistake. Develop your own QC habits and protocols. Enjoy!
Reloading is great for various reasons.
Extra care is never a mistake. Develop your own QC habits and protocols. Enjoy!
Posted by: rhomboid at October 27, 2024 07:52 PM (X3SL3)
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87 Does TripleK make P7 mags? If so they won’t be giving them away. I’ve forgotten how but I knew one of the kids who I think make up TripleK’s owners, or did. A friend definitely knows Kurt, think that’s the one.
Posted by: rhomboid
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Dunno. TripleK does make decent Springfield 1922 M1, M2 magazines which if original are nearly $200 bucks or more per mag now.
Posted by: rhomboid
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Dunno. TripleK does make decent Springfield 1922 M1, M2 magazines which if original are nearly $200 bucks or more per mag now.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 07:52 PM (ctrM5)
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Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 27, 2024 07:50 PM (P+Tnw)
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I like the Garrett Holster Silent Thunder model
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I like the Garrett Holster Silent Thunder model
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2024 07:53 PM (doeWO)
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PI, normally I’d say stick with copper plated for barrel fouling. But for .22 it really doesn’t matter. The powder is so dirty.
Everyone at the Aspirin Shoot uses lead for accuracy.
But for all around goodness, CCI Mini Mag is my favorite.
Everyone at the Aspirin Shoot uses lead for accuracy.
But for all around goodness, CCI Mini Mag is my favorite.
Posted by: RI Red at October 27, 2024 07:53 PM (sGZEA)
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Always liked CCI MiniMags. Ruger 22-45 Lite .22lr, KelTec PMR30 .22mag eat CCI like I eat boiled peanuts. Of course .22 revolvers will eat anything.
Posted by: Eromero at October 27, 2024 07:54 PM (LHPAg)
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67 Sniffy and whig, P7Pro is the name of the outfit that's brought back the P7 platform using HK frames and US made parts. They might be your best shot for additional magazines. The Firearms Blog had an article about them earlier this month.
Thanks EdL. Could not remember which website covered it. I also get digital feeds of teaser stories to my email from a lot of the gunmags that I used to subscribe to.
Guns magazine, in particular, has some talented writers that have been there and done that. They post a gun podcast every week or so I think.
Thanks EdL. Could not remember which website covered it. I also get digital feeds of teaser stories to my email from a lot of the gunmags that I used to subscribe to.
Guns magazine, in particular, has some talented writers that have been there and done that. They post a gun podcast every week or so I think.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 07:55 PM (ctrM5)
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I've been debating asking this for a while now, due to OpSec concerns.
What recommendations do people have for shooting safely from a wheelchair? Revolvers, shotguns, or rifles?
I'm old school, and prefer revolvers over automatic pistols.
What recommendations do people have for shooting safely from a wheelchair? Revolvers, shotguns, or rifles?
I'm old school, and prefer revolvers over automatic pistols.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 27, 2024 07:56 PM (VNX3d)
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Does TripleK make P7 mags? If so they won’t be giving them away. I’ve forgotten how but I knew one of the kids who I think make up TripleK’s owners, or did. A friend definitely knows Kurt, think that’s the one.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 27, 2024 07:50 PM (X3SL3)
I just checked their website and I don't see anything for the P7 series.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 27, 2024 07:50 PM (X3SL3)
I just checked their website and I don't see anything for the P7 series.
Posted by: Ed L at October 27, 2024 07:57 PM (yRXSd)
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I like the Garrett Holster Silent Thunder model
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2024 07:53 PM (doeWO)
Yep, that was the one I couldn’t remember. I have one of theirs for my 1911. Felt wrong to just shove it in plastic.
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2024 07:53 PM (doeWO)
Yep, that was the one I couldn’t remember. I have one of theirs for my 1911. Felt wrong to just shove it in plastic.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 27, 2024 07:57 PM (P+Tnw)
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Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 27, 2024 07:56 PM (VNX3d)
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I always recommend people shoot what they like and are comfortable with. Plus, I love revolvers.
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I always recommend people shoot what they like and are comfortable with. Plus, I love revolvers.
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2024 07:58 PM (doeWO)
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@81 --
There are a couple of gag posters for a fake brand of ammunition.
The key line:
"It Usually Works"
There are a couple of gag posters for a fake brand of ammunition.
The key line:
"It Usually Works"
Posted by: Weak Geek at October 27, 2024 07:58 PM (p/isN)
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94 Always liked CCI MiniMags. Ruger 22-45 Lite .22lr, KelTec PMR30 .22mag eat CCI like I eat boiled peanuts. Of course .22 revolvers will eat anything.
Posted by: Eromero
I like the Minimag but occasionally, you will actually see a warning by a 22 LR manufacturer not to use them in their semi auto. Sig had a bad time with its 22 LR Mosquito which was an understudy to their P series centerfire handguns at the time.
Turns out it was that there are actually two different 22 LR chambers--I think one was a Match and the other was Sporting (not unknown in other cartridges among gun makers as well). The Mosquitoes were made in Germany to the Match specification and it turns out that is not to the spec of most bulk 22 LR ammo shot in the US.
Posted by: Eromero
I like the Minimag but occasionally, you will actually see a warning by a 22 LR manufacturer not to use them in their semi auto. Sig had a bad time with its 22 LR Mosquito which was an understudy to their P series centerfire handguns at the time.
Turns out it was that there are actually two different 22 LR chambers--I think one was a Match and the other was Sporting (not unknown in other cartridges among gun makers as well). The Mosquitoes were made in Germany to the Match specification and it turns out that is not to the spec of most bulk 22 LR ammo shot in the US.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 08:00 PM (ctrM5)
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I can get 5 promags new for the cost of one used. I figure if just 2 are good, I come out ahead.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 27, 2024 07:43 PMI can get 5 promags new for the cost of one used. I figure if just 2 are good, I come out ahead.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 27, 2024 07:43 PM
friends don't let friends use ProMags
I can get 5 promags new for the cost of one used. I figure if just 2 are good, I come out ahead.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 27, 2024 07:43 PMI can get 5 promags new for the cost of one used. I figure if just 2 are good, I come out ahead.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 27, 2024 07:43 PM
friends don't let friends use ProMags
Posted by: AltonJackson at October 27, 2024 08:00 PM (tljrc)
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I always recommend people shoot what they like and are comfortable with. Plus, I love revolvers.
Posted by: Weasel
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Yep on revolvers. First centerfire handgun rounds that I ever shot were 38 Special.
Posted by: Weasel
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Yep on revolvers. First centerfire handgun rounds that I ever shot were 38 Special.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 08:01 PM (ctrM5)
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I hope everyone watches the colonial gunsmith video. I wore out my VHS version and watch the DVD at least once a year. The craftmanhip is inspiring to see. I saw the actual rifle on display in Williamsburg. It is a work of art.
Posted by: JTB at October 27, 2024 08:01 PM (yTvNw)
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Whig and Rhomboid, thanks for the encouraging words. I've already bought a second set of dies for a different cartridge but will hold off on playing with those until I get a little more comfortable. I don' think reloading is going to be much cheaper than shooting store bought, but I think I'm going to enjoy it.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at October 27, 2024 08:01 PM (Hdixl)
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What recommendations do people have for shooting safely from a wheelchair? Revolvers, shotguns, or rifles?
I'm old school, and prefer revolvers over automatic pistols.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 27, 2024 07:56 PM (VNX3d)
Seems like a good platform for a Minigun.
https://tinyurl.com/25szspyk
I'm old school, and prefer revolvers over automatic pistols.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 27, 2024 07:56 PM (VNX3d)
Seems like a good platform for a Minigun.
https://tinyurl.com/25szspyk
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at October 27, 2024 08:02 PM (jMZpU)
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96 I've been debating asking this for a while now, due to OpSec concerns.
What recommendations do people have for shooting safely from a wheelchair? Revolvers, shotguns, or rifles?
I'm old school, and prefer revolvers over automatic pistols.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 27, 2024 07:56 PM (VNX3d)
M2, but need to beef up suspension. No really, 1911, 6 mags.
What recommendations do people have for shooting safely from a wheelchair? Revolvers, shotguns, or rifles?
I'm old school, and prefer revolvers over automatic pistols.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 27, 2024 07:56 PM (VNX3d)
M2, but need to beef up suspension. No really, 1911, 6 mags.
Posted by: Eromero at October 27, 2024 08:03 PM (LHPAg)
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2024 08:04 PM (doeWO)
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107 96 I've been debating asking this for a while now, due to OpSec concerns.
What recommendations do people have for shooting safely from a wheelchair? Revolvers, shotguns, or rifles?
I'm old school, and prefer revolvers over automatic pistols.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 27, 2024 07:56 PM (VNX3d)
M2, but need to beef up suspension. No really, 1911, 6 mags.
Posted by: Eromero at October 27, 2024 08:03 PM (LHPAg)
It's more a question about how to do the shooting safely, not which weapons make the most sense.
What recommendations do people have for shooting safely from a wheelchair? Revolvers, shotguns, or rifles?
I'm old school, and prefer revolvers over automatic pistols.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 27, 2024 07:56 PM (VNX3d)
M2, but need to beef up suspension. No really, 1911, 6 mags.
Posted by: Eromero at October 27, 2024 08:03 PM (LHPAg)
It's more a question about how to do the shooting safely, not which weapons make the most sense.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 27, 2024 08:04 PM (VNX3d)
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I'm old school, and prefer revolvers over automatic pistols.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
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Old school, go for a revolver and carbine that fire the same ammo. Something like a Marlin 94 (or Rossi) in 38 Spc and 357 Magnum lever action carbine and a 38 Special/357 lever action carbine.
Coming out of a 18-20 inch rifle barrel, the already strong 357 magnum in a 4-6 inch revolver barrel turns into firebreathing monster hurling a 158 gr slug close to 200 fps with mild recoil.
Learn though to use speed loaders for the revolver.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
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Old school, go for a revolver and carbine that fire the same ammo. Something like a Marlin 94 (or Rossi) in 38 Spc and 357 Magnum lever action carbine and a 38 Special/357 lever action carbine.
Coming out of a 18-20 inch rifle barrel, the already strong 357 magnum in a 4-6 inch revolver barrel turns into firebreathing monster hurling a 158 gr slug close to 200 fps with mild recoil.
Learn though to use speed loaders for the revolver.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 08:04 PM (ctrM5)
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Gimme a week or two, and I'll have a decently comprehensive list of firearms and gun gear compiled, and ready to reply to emailed inquiries.
Pretty much everything will be For Sale.
I'll be basing Asking Price on the Completed Auction averages from GunBroker.
Some lucky S.O.B. is gonna get a mint, Vortex Razor HD 27x60x85 Angled Eyepiece spotting scope, for a bit less than half of MSRP.
Y'all are going to get First Pass on the list. Afterwards, it's all going up on GunBroker.
j_seigler AT hot mail dot com
This is when it would've been cool to have been some kind of celebrity. I coulda charged extra for Letters of Provenance! lol
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Pretty much everything will be For Sale.
I'll be basing Asking Price on the Completed Auction averages from GunBroker.
Some lucky S.O.B. is gonna get a mint, Vortex Razor HD 27x60x85 Angled Eyepiece spotting scope, for a bit less than half of MSRP.
Y'all are going to get First Pass on the list. Afterwards, it's all going up on GunBroker.
j_seigler AT hot mail dot com
This is when it would've been cool to have been some kind of celebrity. I coulda charged extra for Letters of Provenance! lol
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at October 27, 2024 08:06 PM (Xo+UM)
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Weasel,
Congrats on the new pup! I'm sure a lot of fun is in store.
Congrats on the new pup! I'm sure a lot of fun is in store.
Posted by: JTB at October 27, 2024 08:06 PM (yTvNw)
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Paws is a nice name -- fingers crossed.
Posted by: Mrs JTB at October 27, 2024 07:39 PM (yTvNw)
As in?:
- breathe in
- slowly breathe out
- paws
- squeeze trigger
Posted by: Mrs JTB at October 27, 2024 07:39 PM (yTvNw)
As in?:
- breathe in
- slowly breathe out
- paws
- squeeze trigger
Posted by: GWB at October 27, 2024 08:07 PM (E8qwH)
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at October 27, 2024 08:07 PM (jMZpU)
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96 I've been debating asking this for a while now, due to OpSec concerns.
What recommendations do people have for shooting safely from a wheelchair? Revolvers, shotguns, or rifles?
I'm old school, and prefer revolvers over automatic pistols.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 27, 2024 07:56 PM
I have pushed a LOT of wheelchairs. (Best friend after becoming quad, father last few years of his life.) I cannot imagine maneuvering a wheelchair and a long gun at the same time!
If you like revolvers, then I think that would be your best defensive choice.
Do you have any gun buddies? If so, I would have them go down with you to the local indoor range with all of their own revolvers and semi-autos.
Shoot all of the weapons straight from your wheelchair without touching the shooting station at all - if the RSO will allow that.
Figure out what you can shoot well and go with that!
What recommendations do people have for shooting safely from a wheelchair? Revolvers, shotguns, or rifles?
I'm old school, and prefer revolvers over automatic pistols.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 27, 2024 07:56 PM
I have pushed a LOT of wheelchairs. (Best friend after becoming quad, father last few years of his life.) I cannot imagine maneuvering a wheelchair and a long gun at the same time!
If you like revolvers, then I think that would be your best defensive choice.
Do you have any gun buddies? If so, I would have them go down with you to the local indoor range with all of their own revolvers and semi-autos.
Shoot all of the weapons straight from your wheelchair without touching the shooting station at all - if the RSO will allow that.
Figure out what you can shoot well and go with that!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 27, 2024 08:08 PM (HlyYF)
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This is when it would've been cool to have been some kind of celebrity. I coulda charged extra for Letters of Provenance! lol
I'll be watching and I will definitely want a letter of provenance.
I'll be watching and I will definitely want a letter of provenance.
Posted by: Oddbob at October 27, 2024 08:08 PM (NVAfX)
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105 Whig and Rhomboid, thanks for the encouraging words. I've already bought a second set of dies for a different cartridge but will hold off on playing with those until I get a little more comfortable. I don' think reloading is going to be much cheaper than shooting store bought, but I think I'm going to enjoy it.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen
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It will be a helluva lot cheaper for 38 Special, 357 Magnum, and also 45 ACP. And much much cheaper for oddball antique ammo like the cowboy 32-20, 44-40, 38-40, or 45 Colt.
I find it marginally beneficial for 9mm, 223/5.56 or 308 in range quality ammo. If you start getting into competitions, then it makes sense to reload those as well.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen
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It will be a helluva lot cheaper for 38 Special, 357 Magnum, and also 45 ACP. And much much cheaper for oddball antique ammo like the cowboy 32-20, 44-40, 38-40, or 45 Colt.
I find it marginally beneficial for 9mm, 223/5.56 or 308 in range quality ammo. If you start getting into competitions, then it makes sense to reload those as well.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 08:09 PM (ctrM5)
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Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 27, 2024 07:56 PM (VNX3d)
Have you considered adding pistol caliber carbines (PCC) to your list? PCC are usually more shooter friendly to new shooters, usually have less recoil and muzzle blast than rifles and Magnum chambered revolvers, and (depending on the platform) can accommodate suppressors/silencers if you want to go that route. I like the HK MP5/SP5 platform because these are arguably the softest shooting PCC on the market today and are among the best suppressor hosts. But if you need something more affordable, the Extar EP-9 is very capable to do the job and comes in at around $450, less than half the price of the cheapest HK clone.
Have you considered adding pistol caliber carbines (PCC) to your list? PCC are usually more shooter friendly to new shooters, usually have less recoil and muzzle blast than rifles and Magnum chambered revolvers, and (depending on the platform) can accommodate suppressors/silencers if you want to go that route. I like the HK MP5/SP5 platform because these are arguably the softest shooting PCC on the market today and are among the best suppressor hosts. But if you need something more affordable, the Extar EP-9 is very capable to do the job and comes in at around $450, less than half the price of the cheapest HK clone.
Posted by: Ed L at October 27, 2024 08:09 PM (yRXSd)
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Posted by: Jim at October 27, 2024 08:06 PM (Xo+UM)
Jim, I'm not really in the market for anything (although Colt Commanders and 1911s are always a temptation), but I just want to say my thoughts and prayers are with you, buddy. If there's anything I can ever do for you, you have only to ask.
Jim, I'm not really in the market for anything (although Colt Commanders and 1911s are always a temptation), but I just want to say my thoughts and prayers are with you, buddy. If there's anything I can ever do for you, you have only to ask.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at October 27, 2024 08:11 PM (Hdixl)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 27, 2024 08:12 PM (HlyYF)
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Someone could make a bench rest that attaches to a wheelchair. Leave the brakes off and it would soak up some of the recoil like an artillery battery.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 27, 2024 08:12 PM (P+Tnw)
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Weasel - I love the new puppy! What sweet face.
Wanted to say thank you again for getting me to shoot and for giving me a great teacher. It was, pardon the pun, a blast.
Wanted to say thank you again for getting me to shoot and for giving me a great teacher. It was, pardon the pun, a blast.
Posted by: Piper at October 27, 2024 08:13 PM (p4NUW)
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60 I have been informed by Bride of PI, that I need to buy her a LOT more .22LR ammo.
Question for the Morons and 'ettes that shoot their .22 pistols at a high volume.
Is the preferred ammo lead or "copper plated"?
(For gun cleaning and gun longevity purposes.)
She is shooting steel plates and paper. Her little 6" revolver performs very well on CCI Standard Velocity.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 27, 2024 07:28 PM (HlyYF)
I've never seen much difference between plain lead or copper plated in a .22, for cleaning purposes. As far as longevity, you're unlikely to wear out the barrel on a .22 pistol with any ammo.
CCI Standard Velocity is decent ammo, my experience is that it's more accurate than most other US made .22 ammo. If her gun likes it and it's available, I'd stick with it.
Question for the Morons and 'ettes that shoot their .22 pistols at a high volume.
Is the preferred ammo lead or "copper plated"?
(For gun cleaning and gun longevity purposes.)
She is shooting steel plates and paper. Her little 6" revolver performs very well on CCI Standard Velocity.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 27, 2024 07:28 PM (HlyYF)
I've never seen much difference between plain lead or copper plated in a .22, for cleaning purposes. As far as longevity, you're unlikely to wear out the barrel on a .22 pistol with any ammo.
CCI Standard Velocity is decent ammo, my experience is that it's more accurate than most other US made .22 ammo. If her gun likes it and it's available, I'd stick with it.
Posted by: BillyD at October 27, 2024 08:13 PM (Yt3ED)
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No shootin again but more prep down at the farm.
Have a great week everyone and thanks Weasel.
Have a great week everyone and thanks Weasel.
Posted by: Coelacanth at October 27, 2024 08:13 PM (4AI6f)
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*delurks*
I. Adorable pupper!! Congrats!
2. LOL RMBS @7
iii. Little girls have better skillz than Kinzinger & Dunce
4. Hose Clamp story: Back in the day one of Jesse's buddies proposed to his girlfriend with a hose clamp from a '59 Caddy. They are still married to this day. I met them at his memorial.
*relurks*
I. Adorable pupper!! Congrats!
2. LOL RMBS @7
iii. Little girls have better skillz than Kinzinger & Dunce
4. Hose Clamp story: Back in the day one of Jesse's buddies proposed to his girlfriend with a hose clamp from a '59 Caddy. They are still married to this day. I met them at his memorial.
*relurks*
Posted by: screaming in digital at October 27, 2024 08:14 PM (JIkaw)
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Range report:
Went to the desert with the BIL who had a new RadarLab chronometer to test his 308 loads. He used some of the 'boat tail' bullets and compared them to his usual. ~2900fps vs ~2800fps. He's loading more with the higher fps.
I did some plinking with both the Ruger Max9, and the Henry's golden boy 22lr. I improved with both which is good because I haven't had the cataract surgery to correct my dominate eye yet.
Went to the desert with the BIL who had a new RadarLab chronometer to test his 308 loads. He used some of the 'boat tail' bullets and compared them to his usual. ~2900fps vs ~2800fps. He's loading more with the higher fps.
I did some plinking with both the Ruger Max9, and the Henry's golden boy 22lr. I improved with both which is good because I haven't had the cataract surgery to correct my dominate eye yet.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 27, 2024 08:15 PM (Iq0J2)
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RI Red,
Thanks for the .22 advice.
Is your cleaning advice for the dirty ammo, to put a few drops of bore cleaner on a bore snake and run it through the barrel every 50 rounds?
Thanks for the .22 advice.
Is your cleaning advice for the dirty ammo, to put a few drops of bore cleaner on a bore snake and run it through the barrel every 50 rounds?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 27, 2024 08:15 PM (HlyYF)
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It's more a question about how to do the shooting safely, not which weapons make the most sense.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
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A revolver does not require a locked wrist to fire and as the wheel chair serves also as a carrier, the weight of the revolver does not matter as much so you can go heavier with it (less recoil).
I like bolt actions and semi autos but in a wheel chair, operating an AR would be challenging, the recoil from a shotgun will be accentuated (when you sit because you cannot lean as much into the shotgun and the arms of the wheelchair might be a problem when running a pump action.
Lever actions, on the other hand, operate the bolt in a simple fashion that would seem to be to work better within a wheelchair. The classic objection to a lever action is based on it is harder to use when prone which does not appear to be a consideration here.
Most lever action pistol caliber cartridges hold more ammo (8-10 is normal) than the revolver and it hits harder if you get the 38+p or 357 Magnum.
ammo. For practice plinking, you can fire plain ole 38 special in both.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
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A revolver does not require a locked wrist to fire and as the wheel chair serves also as a carrier, the weight of the revolver does not matter as much so you can go heavier with it (less recoil).
I like bolt actions and semi autos but in a wheel chair, operating an AR would be challenging, the recoil from a shotgun will be accentuated (when you sit because you cannot lean as much into the shotgun and the arms of the wheelchair might be a problem when running a pump action.
Lever actions, on the other hand, operate the bolt in a simple fashion that would seem to be to work better within a wheelchair. The classic objection to a lever action is based on it is harder to use when prone which does not appear to be a consideration here.
Most lever action pistol caliber cartridges hold more ammo (8-10 is normal) than the revolver and it hits harder if you get the 38+p or 357 Magnum.
ammo. For practice plinking, you can fire plain ole 38 special in both.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 08:16 PM (ctrM5)
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Posted by: Piper at October 27, 2024 08:13 PM (p4NUW)
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Hi Piper!
She's a sweet little girl and FSJ seems thrilled to have a buddy again.
It was a pleasure to meet you and get to hang out for a while. Very happy you enjoyed shooting - Steck is a fantastic instructor and you did really well! Hope to see you again next year.
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Hi Piper!
She's a sweet little girl and FSJ seems thrilled to have a buddy again.
It was a pleasure to meet you and get to hang out for a while. Very happy you enjoyed shooting - Steck is a fantastic instructor and you did really well! Hope to see you again next year.
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2024 08:17 PM (doeWO)
Posted by: screaming in digital at October 27, 2024 08:17 PM (JIkaw)
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Jim SND, I do hope that you're doing better.
Posted by: Ed L at October 27, 2024 08:18 PM (yRXSd)
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I've never seen much difference between plain lead or copper plated in a .22, for cleaning purposes. As far as longevity, you're unlikely to wear out the barrel on a .22 pistol with any ammo.
CCI Standard Velocity is decent ammo, my experience is that it's more accurate than most other US made .22 ammo. If her gun likes it and it's available, I'd stick with it.
Posted by: BillyD
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It is not so much the lead as the gunky and sticky bullet lube used on cheapo lead rimfire ammo that makes more of a mess combined with typical dirty powder.
Copper wash (very thin plating compared with centerfire) cuts down on that by eliminating the lube gunk.
CCI Standard Velocity is decent ammo, my experience is that it's more accurate than most other US made .22 ammo. If her gun likes it and it's available, I'd stick with it.
Posted by: BillyD
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It is not so much the lead as the gunky and sticky bullet lube used on cheapo lead rimfire ammo that makes more of a mess combined with typical dirty powder.
Copper wash (very thin plating compared with centerfire) cuts down on that by eliminating the lube gunk.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 08:18 PM (ctrM5)
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It's more a question about how to do the shooting safely, not which weapons make the most sense.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 27, 2024 08:04 PM (VNX3d
Unless you are a wheelchair wizard doing wheelies and parkour stunts, you need concealable stopping power and accuracy. You need to stop the fight soonest. Depending on size of hand and arm strength, Ruger or S&W .357 revolvers are dependable. Go to a range with a gun wall and shoot what feels right and works for you. It’s good you’ve decided to not be a victim.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 27, 2024 08:04 PM (VNX3d
Unless you are a wheelchair wizard doing wheelies and parkour stunts, you need concealable stopping power and accuracy. You need to stop the fight soonest. Depending on size of hand and arm strength, Ruger or S&W .357 revolvers are dependable. Go to a range with a gun wall and shoot what feels right and works for you. It’s good you’ve decided to not be a victim.
Posted by: Eromero at October 27, 2024 08:19 PM (LHPAg)
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I never like Adam Kissinger until he shot a reporter.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 27, 2024 08:20 PM (MeG8a)
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105 Whig and Rhomboid, thanks for the encouraging words. I've already bought a second set of dies for a different cartridge but will hold off on playing with those until I get a little more comfortable. I don' think reloading is going to be much cheaper than shooting store bought, but I think I'm going to enjoy it.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at October 27, 2024 08:01 PM (Hdixl)
Cost of reloading vs. factory ammo depends on the cartridge. You can probably buy factory 9mm or .556 cheaper than you can reload it. For less common cartridges, reloading will be cheaper, in particular for pistol, where brass lasts practically forever.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at October 27, 2024 08:01 PM (Hdixl)
Cost of reloading vs. factory ammo depends on the cartridge. You can probably buy factory 9mm or .556 cheaper than you can reload it. For less common cartridges, reloading will be cheaper, in particular for pistol, where brass lasts practically forever.
Posted by: BillyD at October 27, 2024 08:21 PM (Yt3ED)
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PI, interestingly, I clean my .22 bolties much less frequently now. It’s only if I see a decrease in accuracy that I do a full cleaning. Chambers get a scrub once in a while.
My 10-22 semiautomatic likes to be cleaned. A lot of the crap gets back in the action and gums things up. Same same my .22 auto pistols.
My 10-22 semiautomatic likes to be cleaned. A lot of the crap gets back in the action and gums things up. Same same my .22 auto pistols.
Posted by: RI Red at October 27, 2024 08:22 PM (sGZEA)
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Er. A bit more than 200 fps--should read 2000 fps.
Here is a Truth about guns post on the ballistics of a 38 Special/357 revolver and then carbine. They use an 18 inch Marlin 1894 carbine compared with a 4 inch barrel revolver ballistics.
https://tinyurl.com/2tkdtfed
Here is a Truth about guns post on the ballistics of a 38 Special/357 revolver and then carbine. They use an 18 inch Marlin 1894 carbine compared with a 4 inch barrel revolver ballistics.
https://tinyurl.com/2tkdtfed
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 08:22 PM (ctrM5)
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Posted by: Jim at October 27, 2024 08:06 PM (Xo+UM)
If this is going to help fund your fight or something, then I'm definitely interested. Gonna keep praying, no matter what.
If this is going to help fund your fight or something, then I'm definitely interested. Gonna keep praying, no matter what.
Posted by: GWB at October 27, 2024 08:25 PM (E8qwH)
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Just watched the Winchester video. Couldn't ask for a better narrator than Slim Pickens! I also enjoyed watching the GSPs on point. They are great gun dogs when trained properly. Unfortunately, my GSP would rather chase a deer through two counties than point a covey of quail.
Although she did manage to corner and slaughter a poor confused sparrow that got trapped on my screened-in porch this evening.
Although she did manage to corner and slaughter a poor confused sparrow that got trapped on my screened-in porch this evening.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at October 27, 2024 08:25 PM (Hdixl)
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 27, 2024 08:26 PM (hovnC)
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Somebody likes pizza!
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2024 08:26 PM (WfZMN)
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Weasel! Congrats on your new WeaselPuppy! She's darling.
Posted by: bluebell at October 27, 2024 08:27 PM (79pEw)
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138 Posted by: Jim at October 27, 2024 08:06 PM (Xo+UM)
If this is going to help fund your fight or something, then I'm definitely interested. Gonna keep praying, no matter what.
Posted by: GWB at October 27, 2024 08:25 PM (E8qwH
I’m there too, Jim. You have my email address, brother.
If this is going to help fund your fight or something, then I'm definitely interested. Gonna keep praying, no matter what.
Posted by: GWB at October 27, 2024 08:25 PM (E8qwH
I’m there too, Jim. You have my email address, brother.
Posted by: Eromero at October 27, 2024 08:28 PM (LHPAg)
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140 Any suggestions for a name?
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Katana.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 27, 2024 08:26 PM (hovnC)
Seconded!
Howdy to the Gub 'ettes and 'rons and new puppy parent Weasel!
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Katana.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 27, 2024 08:26 PM (hovnC)
Seconded!
Howdy to the Gub 'ettes and 'rons and new puppy parent Weasel!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at October 27, 2024 08:28 PM (v23vE)
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2024 08:29 PM (WfZMN)
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Lever actions, on the other hand,
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 08:16 PM (ctrM5)
Alongside whig's great advice (IMHO) is the fact that lever action carbines look great in a scabbard. Which would look great on a wheelchair, I think.
And, yes, I love revolvers and lever guns, too.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 08:16 PM (ctrM5)
Alongside whig's great advice (IMHO) is the fact that lever action carbines look great in a scabbard. Which would look great on a wheelchair, I think.
And, yes, I love revolvers and lever guns, too.
Posted by: GWB at October 27, 2024 08:29 PM (E8qwH)
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Howdy to the Gub 'ettes and 'rons and new puppy parent Weasel!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at October 27, 2024 08:28 PM (v23vE)
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Evening, sir! Nice to chat with you in TX.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at October 27, 2024 08:28 PM (v23vE)
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Evening, sir! Nice to chat with you in TX.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 27, 2024 08:30 PM (tT6L1)
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FWIW, what EdL says also makes sense in having a PCC semi auto of some sort--Ruger, Smith and Wesson, Keltec, or High Point etc. make cheaper ones than the top of the line MP5 (and clones). You get a bit more felt recoil impulse from the cheaper blowback carbines but they are just as reliable as a roller lock in practice.
Some PCC will even use the same mags as a particular handgun---like Keltec does with Glock magazines and I think Ruger's PCC might.
You get higher capacity in a magazine fired PCC and easier to reload if you are planning for a large social event. But, other than maybe the 10 mm cartridge which is a bit much for self defense in a handgun, most semi auto pistol cartridges only gain a couple of hundred fps versus the same cartridge fired from a handgun. Most semi autos are optimized already for the handgun and not PCCs.
The old fashion lever action though gives something like 6-700 fps more in the 357 Magnum when going from pistol to carbine.
Some PCC will even use the same mags as a particular handgun---like Keltec does with Glock magazines and I think Ruger's PCC might.
You get higher capacity in a magazine fired PCC and easier to reload if you are planning for a large social event. But, other than maybe the 10 mm cartridge which is a bit much for self defense in a handgun, most semi auto pistol cartridges only gain a couple of hundred fps versus the same cartridge fired from a handgun. Most semi autos are optimized already for the handgun and not PCCs.
The old fashion lever action though gives something like 6-700 fps more in the 357 Magnum when going from pistol to carbine.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 08:30 PM (ctrM5)
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I'll 2nd Ed L's comments on the PCCs. I had the best time with his SP5 at the TXMOME. Point and shoot! I liked it so much I'm trying to convince my cousin to buy one!
Jim, I'll email you.
J
Jim, I'll email you.
J
Posted by: JSpicy at October 27, 2024 08:32 PM (sD7bo)
Posted by: scampydog at October 27, 2024 08:32 PM (41CYW)
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What recommendations do people have for shooting safely from a wheelchair? Revolvers, shotguns, or rifles?
I'm old school, and prefer revolvers over automatic pistols.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 27, 2024 07:56 PM (VNX3d)
Just as a word of encouragement, I used to shoot IPSC at a small club with a guy who was confined to a wheelchair after a motorcycle accident. IIRC, he used a 1911 with a holster and magazine carriers mounted to the chair. He was a serious competitor, and rolled between stations. The only accommodation we made for him was letting him shoot from the sides of barricades that the rest of us had to shoot over.
I'm old school, and prefer revolvers over automatic pistols.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 27, 2024 07:56 PM (VNX3d)
Just as a word of encouragement, I used to shoot IPSC at a small club with a guy who was confined to a wheelchair after a motorcycle accident. IIRC, he used a 1911 with a holster and magazine carriers mounted to the chair. He was a serious competitor, and rolled between stations. The only accommodation we made for him was letting him shoot from the sides of barricades that the rest of us had to shoot over.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 27, 2024 08:33 PM (bLM/q)
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New doggie needs a short name, something that is easily called.
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Shot. Here, Shot!
Neighbors won't know if you're into guns or whiskey!
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Shot. Here, Shot!
Neighbors won't know if you're into guns or whiskey!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 27, 2024 08:34 PM (VNX3d)
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Any suggestions for a name?
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Katana.
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Seconded!
But he's already got one of those. What's the name of the short sword? Washizaki? Might be too long, maybe just Washi. Then when someone asks, you get to tell the katana story.
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Katana.
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Seconded!
But he's already got one of those. What's the name of the short sword? Washizaki? Might be too long, maybe just Washi. Then when someone asks, you get to tell the katana story.
Posted by: Oddbob at October 27, 2024 08:34 PM (iURWm)
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Weasel, I think MOA is a good name for a lady dog.
Posted by: JSpicy at October 27, 2024 08:35 PM (sD7bo)
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My 10-22 semiautomatic likes to be cleaned. A lot of the crap gets back in the action and gums things up. Same same my .22 auto pistols.
Posted by: RI Red
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Curious if you have tried the new polymer coated match 22 LRs. Supposedly they are more accurate and less fouling.
I have fired Nyclads in the past out of a revolver and it eliminated leading as has the later HiTek (or variant) coated bullets in 9mm. Still have a bunch of 9mm Precision bullets that use a moly compound coating back from frequent range days.
Very little fouling and accurate.
Supposedly powder coating lead bullets does as well but seem to have hit or miss accuracy issues.
Posted by: RI Red
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Curious if you have tried the new polymer coated match 22 LRs. Supposedly they are more accurate and less fouling.
I have fired Nyclads in the past out of a revolver and it eliminated leading as has the later HiTek (or variant) coated bullets in 9mm. Still have a bunch of 9mm Precision bullets that use a moly compound coating back from frequent range days.
Very little fouling and accurate.
Supposedly powder coating lead bullets does as well but seem to have hit or miss accuracy issues.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 08:35 PM (ctrM5)
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Good Evening, all.
Weasel, thank you for the thread. It's good to see a new member of the family.
JSND, prayers for you and your family.
Turkey hunting yesterday was not successful, but last week the Rossi R92 got a little workout.
Weasel, thank you for the thread. It's good to see a new member of the family.
JSND, prayers for you and your family.
Turkey hunting yesterday was not successful, but last week the Rossi R92 got a little workout.
Posted by: chappyman66 at October 27, 2024 08:36 PM (L3byd)
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I’m at “Fundawg” right now, weasel.
Posted by: RI Red at October 27, 2024 08:36 PM (sGZEA)
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My first idea for a name was booger but WW nixed that idea.
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2024 08:36 PM (WfZMN)
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My first idea for a name was booger but WW nixed that idea.
Posted by: Weasel
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I was just about to suggest that. Some friends of mine had a dog named Booger years ago. She loved opening up the back door and calling his name!
Posted by: Weasel
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I was just about to suggest that. Some friends of mine had a dog named Booger years ago. She loved opening up the back door and calling his name!
Posted by: screaming in digital at October 27, 2024 08:38 PM (JIkaw)
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Whig, the polymer coated .22s caught my eye, but I’ve been out of the .22 rotation a bit and haven’t gone further.
I’ll move it up the list.
I’ll move it up the list.
Posted by: RI Red at October 27, 2024 08:39 PM (sGZEA)
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Howdy, JSND. Prayers continue here from my end.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 27, 2024 08:40 PM (mH6SG)
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Posted by: Jim at October 27, 2024 08:06 PM
Jim, I'd be interested in that Vortex spotting scope. Weasel has my email.
Jim, I'd be interested in that Vortex spotting scope. Weasel has my email.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 27, 2024 08:40 PM (Wnv9h)
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WeaselBooger? Nah...bad idea.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 27, 2024 08:41 PM (mH6SG)
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I’m at “Fundawg” right now, weasel.
Posted by: RI Red at October 27, 2024 08:36 PM
I'm boring. I'd call it "Dog".
Posted by: RI Red at October 27, 2024 08:36 PM
I'm boring. I'd call it "Dog".
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 27, 2024 08:41 PM (Wnv9h)
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160 Whig, the polymer coated .22s caught my eye, but I’ve been out of the .22 rotation a bit and haven’t gone further.
I’ll move it up the list.
Posted by: RI Red
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Back when I could get them, I shot Nyclad hollowpoints from Federal in 38 special. Useful for small lightweight snubbies with decent expansion.
They were accurate with absolutely no leading whatsoever (even from a Ruger D/A which are known for leading issues due to twist and barrel throat being tight for jacketed bullets.
I’ll move it up the list.
Posted by: RI Red
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Back when I could get them, I shot Nyclad hollowpoints from Federal in 38 special. Useful for small lightweight snubbies with decent expansion.
They were accurate with absolutely no leading whatsoever (even from a Ruger D/A which are known for leading issues due to twist and barrel throat being tight for jacketed bullets.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 08:43 PM (ctrM5)
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Evening all.
Was watching the livestream . Can't believe trhe election is almost here.
Brief report from Texas. It was wonderful. I got to shoot my new Glock at metal targets outside and I hardly missed a shot. Did not do as well on the shoot and scoot but I'll blame my bad leg. Actually, it was a bad grip. Once Weasel buddy Geoff commented, I was able to fix it.
Was watching the livestream . Can't believe trhe election is almost here.
Brief report from Texas. It was wonderful. I got to shoot my new Glock at metal targets outside and I hardly missed a shot. Did not do as well on the shoot and scoot but I'll blame my bad leg. Actually, it was a bad grip. Once Weasel buddy Geoff commented, I was able to fix it.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 27, 2024 08:43 PM (t/2Uw)
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150 New doggie needs a short name, something that is easily called.
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Sig If your dawg responds better to a y ending. Then Siggie. Get another one and call it Sauer.
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Sig If your dawg responds better to a y ending. Then Siggie. Get another one and call it Sauer.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 08:45 PM (ctrM5)
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Also got advice from Eromero on my cleaning the Glock issue. Turns out there is a stand that you slip the mag less Glock onto. I am hoping it will work like having a third hand. Should have it by mid week so I'll report next week if it works.
The Holosun also was great. Green dot perfectly clear even in full sun.
The Holosun also was great. Green dot perfectly clear even in full sun.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 27, 2024 08:46 PM (t/2Uw)
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65 I was going to suggest naming the dog wobbly shit.
When she misbehaves, "No, wobbly shit!"
Perhaps there's a reason I don't typically post on the pet thread...
Posted by: TRex at October 27, 2024 07:34 PM (IQ6Gq)
LOL! The name inspired by the TXMoMe Rifle Range.
When she misbehaves, "No, wobbly shit!"
Perhaps there's a reason I don't typically post on the pet thread...
Posted by: TRex at October 27, 2024 07:34 PM (IQ6Gq)
LOL! The name inspired by the TXMoMe Rifle Range.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at October 27, 2024 08:47 PM (v23vE)
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I found a couple of places that will put a leather lining in a kydex holster. I’ve got one that is leather lined on the inside and suede on the outside. Makes it a little thicker put it looks cool. One of the places was Phalanx Concelment. I can’t remember the other.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 27, 2024 07:50 PM (P+Tnw)
Thank you, I never thought of that option.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 27, 2024 07:50 PM (P+Tnw)
Thank you, I never thought of that option.
Posted by: haffhowershower at October 27, 2024 08:48 PM (NMT5x)
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I am currently high bidder on it on gunbroker, but I think a Howa 1500 APC in .308 - 24 inch heavy barrel. The one with the American flag pattern on it.
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How much, if you don't mind?
I'm curious because I have one with the Canadian flag pattern but in 6.5CR that I bought on sale here, including a bipod and two 10-round magazines.
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How much, if you don't mind?
I'm curious because I have one with the Canadian flag pattern but in 6.5CR that I bought on sale here, including a bipod and two 10-round magazines.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 27, 2024 08:50 PM (hovnC)
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170 I found a couple of places that will put a leather lining in a kydex holster. I’ve got one that is leather lined on the inside and suede on the outside. Makes it a little thicker put it looks cool. One of the places was Phalanx Concelment. I can’t remember the other.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
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Interesting. Thanks, options are always good if you know they exist in the first place.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
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Interesting. Thanks, options are always good if you know they exist in the first place.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 08:51 PM (ctrM5)
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Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 08:51 PM (ctrM5)
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Check out Garrett for leather lined kydex
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Check out Garrett for leather lined kydex
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2024 08:52 PM (fFYnV)
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Today at the range sra blaster wanted to rent a Sig 938. She liked the look of it, like a baby 1911.
But it only holds 7+1 rounds and its super snappy - snappier than her current EDC P365, which is surprising.
But it only holds 7+1 rounds and its super snappy - snappier than her current EDC P365, which is surprising.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at October 27, 2024 08:53 PM (jMZpU)
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I got to shoot my new Glock at metal targets outside and I hardly missed a shot. Did not do as well on the shoot and scoot but I'll blame my bad leg. Actually, it was a bad grip. Once Weasel buddy Geoff commented, I was able to fix it.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)
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Better than me. Glocks just don't generally fit my hand well nor did I shoot them great except for the Model 30 for some odd reason.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)
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Better than me. Glocks just don't generally fit my hand well nor did I shoot them great except for the Model 30 for some odd reason.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 08:53 PM (ctrM5)
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Evening, sir! Nice to chat with you in TX.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 27, 2024 08:30 PM (tT6L1)
Same, sir. I always leave Corsicana thinking of things I wish I'd discussed more in depth with folks. Just not enough time, which is weird considering that I was there for three days this year.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 27, 2024 08:30 PM (tT6L1)
Same, sir. I always leave Corsicana thinking of things I wish I'd discussed more in depth with folks. Just not enough time, which is weird considering that I was there for three days this year.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at October 27, 2024 08:54 PM (v23vE)
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What recommendations do people have for shooting safely from a wheelchair? Revolvers, shotguns, or rifles?
I'm old school, and prefer revolvers over automatic pistols.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 27, 2024 07:56 PM (VNX3d)
Just as a word of encouragement, I used to shoot IPSC at a small club with a guy who was confined to a wheelchair after a motorcycle accident. IIRC, he used a 1911 with a holster and magazine carriers mounted to the chair. He was a serious competitor, and rolled between stations. The only accommodation we made for him was letting him shoot from the sides of barricades that the rest of us had to shoot over.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
I was going to mention that some people with handicaps go all out - special chairs for racing. One could rig up a custom chair for race-gun competition too. Depends on the individual...
Quick sidebar - an uncle was a jumpmaster and rigger. He had a quad amputee who wanted to jump so made a custom harness for the jump.
Anyway, I assume this is just basic protection and like others would recommend going to a range (with rentals or a friend) and try many to see what works today when using your regular chair.
I'm old school, and prefer revolvers over automatic pistols.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 27, 2024 07:56 PM (VNX3d)
Just as a word of encouragement, I used to shoot IPSC at a small club with a guy who was confined to a wheelchair after a motorcycle accident. IIRC, he used a 1911 with a holster and magazine carriers mounted to the chair. He was a serious competitor, and rolled between stations. The only accommodation we made for him was letting him shoot from the sides of barricades that the rest of us had to shoot over.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
I was going to mention that some people with handicaps go all out - special chairs for racing. One could rig up a custom chair for race-gun competition too. Depends on the individual...
Quick sidebar - an uncle was a jumpmaster and rigger. He had a quad amputee who wanted to jump so made a custom harness for the jump.
Anyway, I assume this is just basic protection and like others would recommend going to a range (with rentals or a friend) and try many to see what works today when using your regular chair.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 27, 2024 08:54 PM (/lPRQ)
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How much, if you don't mind?
I'm curious because I have one with the Canadian flag pattern but in 6.5CR that I bought on sale here, including a bipod and two 10-round magazines.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 27, 2024 08:50 PM (hovnC)
Currently at $1025 (USD). I am hoping it will close at that price (it did not sell last time it was up with that as the starting bid).
NONE OF YOU PEOPLE GO OVER THERE AND BID IT UP AND WIN IT!!!
I'm curious because I have one with the Canadian flag pattern but in 6.5CR that I bought on sale here, including a bipod and two 10-round magazines.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 27, 2024 08:50 PM (hovnC)
Currently at $1025 (USD). I am hoping it will close at that price (it did not sell last time it was up with that as the starting bid).
NONE OF YOU PEOPLE GO OVER THERE AND BID IT UP AND WIN IT!!!
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at October 27, 2024 08:54 PM (jMZpU)
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Time to wander, Thanks again for the thread, weasel!
New pup seems to understand she's got a home and a couple of hearts.
She's adorable.
Later!
New pup seems to understand she's got a home and a couple of hearts.
She's adorable.
Later!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 27, 2024 08:55 PM (tT6L1)
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...Jim, I'd be interested in that Vortex spotting scope. Weasel has my email. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 27, 2024 08:40 PM (Wnv9h)
Respectfully, I'll be asking you to send the inquiry. 'Cause I won't be wanting to bother Weasel, asking for a never ending number of "he's got my addys".
I've set up a folder in my mail to keep all the inquires in one spot.
Please keep an eye on this space, and I'll further refine it. Probably by asking that the Subject line be the object in question. I can track 'em better, that way.
Thanks EVERYONE in advance for your interests and your help!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Respectfully, I'll be asking you to send the inquiry. 'Cause I won't be wanting to bother Weasel, asking for a never ending number of "he's got my addys".
I've set up a folder in my mail to keep all the inquires in one spot.
Please keep an eye on this space, and I'll further refine it. Probably by asking that the Subject line be the object in question. I can track 'em better, that way.
Thanks EVERYONE in advance for your interests and your help!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at October 27, 2024 08:55 PM (Xo+UM)
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But it only holds 7+1 rounds and its super snappy - snappier than her current EDC P365, which is surprising.
Posted by: blaster
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Thin backstrap leads to a greater perceived recoil. The PPK was the same way plus blowback which the Sig is locked barrel. But, I like the 938 and carried it for awhile because of light weight plus Academy sold them cheap for awhile with night sights already installed.
Posted by: blaster
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Thin backstrap leads to a greater perceived recoil. The PPK was the same way plus blowback which the Sig is locked barrel. But, I like the 938 and carried it for awhile because of light weight plus Academy sold them cheap for awhile with night sights already installed.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 08:56 PM (ctrM5)
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Continued
...Ranges accommodate (ADA) ... Private club I go to has lanes for wheelchairs.
...Ranges accommodate (ADA) ... Private club I go to has lanes for wheelchairs.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 27, 2024 08:56 PM (/lPRQ)
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Some PCC will even use the same mags as a particular handgun---like Keltec does with Glock magazines and I think Ruger's PCC might.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 08:30 PM (ctrM5)
Confirmed - my Ruger PCC accepts Glock magazines (via a magazine well adapter, included in the retail package), which are ubiquitous, and way cheaper than Ruger's proprietary mags.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 08:30 PM (ctrM5)
Confirmed - my Ruger PCC accepts Glock magazines (via a magazine well adapter, included in the retail package), which are ubiquitous, and way cheaper than Ruger's proprietary mags.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at October 27, 2024 08:57 PM (v23vE)
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How much, if you don't mind?
I'm curious because I have one with the Canadian flag pattern but in 6.5CR that I bought on sale here, including a bipod and two 10-round magazines.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 27, 2024 08:50 PM (hovnC)
This one also has a bipod and a Niko Diamond 4-16 scope that is not a famous name but people say it is decent for the price and Howa has seen fit to include it on their all up package.
I'm curious because I have one with the Canadian flag pattern but in 6.5CR that I bought on sale here, including a bipod and two 10-round magazines.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 27, 2024 08:50 PM (hovnC)
This one also has a bipod and a Niko Diamond 4-16 scope that is not a famous name but people say it is decent for the price and Howa has seen fit to include it on their all up package.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at October 27, 2024 08:57 PM (jMZpU)
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Check out Garrett for leather lined kydex
Posted by: Weasel
Interesting. Gotta get my nerves back in control (neuropathy and pinched nerve somewhere) on my right arm first.
Practicing dry firing and draws from the left arm which is ok. Out of practice firing left handed and having to do it with a cheapo appendix holster. Used to drawing and firing from a strong side holster which I can't do right now.
Posted by: Weasel
Interesting. Gotta get my nerves back in control (neuropathy and pinched nerve somewhere) on my right arm first.
Practicing dry firing and draws from the left arm which is ok. Out of practice firing left handed and having to do it with a cheapo appendix holster. Used to drawing and firing from a strong side holster which I can't do right now.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 08:59 PM (ctrM5)
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Whig, I shoot G48 which I think is the narrowest grip that Glock makes. It is the same as the 43x but has a longer barrel so have no trouble with recoil. I started with the G44 and then went to the G48 but the mos version wasn't available. I now own a lily lilac G48 with a Holosun green dot and it is just a pleasure to shoot. I feel like it's My Gun.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 27, 2024 08:59 PM (t/2Uw)
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Confirmed - my Ruger PCC accepts Glock magazines (via a magazine well adapter, included in the retail package), which are ubiquitous, and way cheaper than Ruger's proprietary mags.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy
Good to know. From what I remember from someone, maybe Sven, that the Ruger PCC used Ruger Security 9 mags as well but I could have dreamed that up.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy
Good to know. From what I remember from someone, maybe Sven, that the Ruger PCC used Ruger Security 9 mags as well but I could have dreamed that up.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 09:00 PM (ctrM5)
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Thank you all for the ideas. My main concern is self-defense and if SHTF.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 27, 2024 09:00 PM (VNX3d)
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 27, 2024 09:01 PM (hovnC)
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Is that a type of Crocs??
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 27, 2024 09:01 PM (hovnC)
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Ha!
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 27, 2024 09:01 PM (hovnC)
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Ha!
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2024 09:05 PM (oYVkg)
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186 Whig, I shoot G48 which I think is the narrowest grip that Glock makes. It is the same as the 43x but has a longer barrel so have no trouble with recoil. I started with the G44 and then went to the G48 but the mos version wasn't available. I now own a lily lilac G48 with a Holosun green dot and it is just a pleasure to shoot. I feel like it's My Gun.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)
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Cool. Glad to know that there is a Glock that I might be able to shoot well. I feel polymer framed pistols less in recoil than my metal framed ones now.
I have smallish hands (now ravaged by inflammatory arthritis) and simply cannot shoot a lot of pistols well like H&K due to being too large in the grip.
I was miserable when the Air Force switched from the Smith and Wesson Model 15 revolvers to the new Beretta 92 model and it immediately dropped my qualifying scores. It was simply too damn big for my hands.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)
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Cool. Glad to know that there is a Glock that I might be able to shoot well. I feel polymer framed pistols less in recoil than my metal framed ones now.
I have smallish hands (now ravaged by inflammatory arthritis) and simply cannot shoot a lot of pistols well like H&K due to being too large in the grip.
I was miserable when the Air Force switched from the Smith and Wesson Model 15 revolvers to the new Beretta 92 model and it immediately dropped my qualifying scores. It was simply too damn big for my hands.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 09:05 PM (ctrM5)
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I have hobibit hands. My palms are normal,but my fingers are short. I can make it work with double stack pistols, but I’m most comfortable with single stack.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 27, 2024 09:09 PM (P+Tnw)
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I apologize for being late tonight, but PDT was in the Garden, and I got sentimental. Regardless, thanks for the thread Weasel and hello fellow horde members...
>Weasel, congrats on the new addition to the family. I agree on the name Katana
>Jim, prayers continue for you, and I'm going to check on some clinical trials for you
>As for range, yes indeed there were two outings this week. Continue to work on shooting two groups from a resting position, and am pleased with the progress. I now immediately know if a shot will not go where intended. Also tried some one handed shooting, using both right and left. Obviously my primary (L) is much stronger and all the shots were within the 3 inch circle. My (R) needs some work, but the shots were within the 6inch circle.
The most important note? Today was the first time I felt comfortable that if someone broke if or if I were approached, that I could successfully defend myself. That was my primary goal, and I'm thrilled to reach it. Of course, I will continue working to improve, but thought I'd share this milestone.
>Weasel, congrats on the new addition to the family. I agree on the name Katana
>Jim, prayers continue for you, and I'm going to check on some clinical trials for you
>As for range, yes indeed there were two outings this week. Continue to work on shooting two groups from a resting position, and am pleased with the progress. I now immediately know if a shot will not go where intended. Also tried some one handed shooting, using both right and left. Obviously my primary (L) is much stronger and all the shots were within the 3 inch circle. My (R) needs some work, but the shots were within the 6inch circle.
The most important note? Today was the first time I felt comfortable that if someone broke if or if I were approached, that I could successfully defend myself. That was my primary goal, and I'm thrilled to reach it. Of course, I will continue working to improve, but thought I'd share this milestone.
Posted by: Grateful, the range bag lady at October 27, 2024 09:10 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Kydex is a brand name of acrylic-polyvinyl chloride composite that can be thermoformed and used for aircraft, firearm, knife and tool sheaths, and more.
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Okay.
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Okay.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 27, 2024 09:10 PM (hovnC)
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Never could master the Beretta 92.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 27, 2024 09:11 PM (mH6SG)
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194 Kydex is a brand name of acrylic-polyvinyl chloride composite that can be thermoformed and used for aircraft, firearm, knife and tool sheaths, and more.
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Posted by: andycanuck
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Hard enough to scratch some finishes on firearms but cheaper generally than leather as it only requires molding and tougher than the older generation polymer holsters like Springfield XD used to throw in with their handguns.
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Okay.
Posted by: andycanuck
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Hard enough to scratch some finishes on firearms but cheaper generally than leather as it only requires molding and tougher than the older generation polymer holsters like Springfield XD used to throw in with their handguns.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 09:12 PM (ctrM5)
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I always thought I just was a terrible shot with pistols. Turned out the M9’s we had in the Navy were just beat to hell.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 27, 2024 09:14 PM (P+Tnw)
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Good to know. From what I remember from someone, maybe Sven, that the Ruger PCC used Ruger Security 9 mags as well but I could have dreamed that up.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 09:00 PM (ctrM5)
Yes, Security 9 sounds correct.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 09:00 PM (ctrM5)
Yes, Security 9 sounds correct.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at October 27, 2024 09:15 PM (v23vE)
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195 Never could master the Beretta 92.
Posted by: Notorious BFD
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Ditto, had to change my firing grip to get to the safety and then back again. The Crunch n Tik of the DA/SA did not help either. For people with big hands, they can run that gun like a pro. People with smaller hand sizes like me struggled. K Frame revolvers though were just right in the hand and no problem shooting those DA.
Just goes to show that how a firearm fits the hand is far more important than the brand name or the latest gizmo/cartridge/etc of it. From a Ransom Rest, nearly a century old K Frames can exhibit a 1 MOA grouping with ammo it likes at 25 yards.
Posted by: Notorious BFD
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Ditto, had to change my firing grip to get to the safety and then back again. The Crunch n Tik of the DA/SA did not help either. For people with big hands, they can run that gun like a pro. People with smaller hand sizes like me struggled. K Frame revolvers though were just right in the hand and no problem shooting those DA.
Just goes to show that how a firearm fits the hand is far more important than the brand name or the latest gizmo/cartridge/etc of it. From a Ransom Rest, nearly a century old K Frames can exhibit a 1 MOA grouping with ammo it likes at 25 yards.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 09:16 PM (ctrM5)
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Copper wash (very thin plating compared with centerfire) cuts down on that by eliminating the lube gunk.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 08:18 PM
Thanks whig!
Even an Idiot like me knows there must be SOME reason they make the copper wash rounds.
I think I will run a box of lead, then examine and clean barrel, and then run a box of copper washed and do a comparison.
Right now some of the copper plated is only $0.01 more per round.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 08:18 PM
Thanks whig!
Even an Idiot like me knows there must be SOME reason they make the copper wash rounds.
I think I will run a box of lead, then examine and clean barrel, and then run a box of copper washed and do a comparison.
Right now some of the copper plated is only $0.01 more per round.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 27, 2024 09:17 PM (HlyYF)
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Yes, Security 9 sounds correct.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy
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I think Ruger just added a 10mm version of their PCC too. Too bad we never saw that cartridge chambered in the P90 in 45 ACP which was actually built to handle the 10mm. Vast overkill in that firearm's design to shoot the 45 ACP which is a gentle cartridge by comparison.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy
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I think Ruger just added a 10mm version of their PCC too. Too bad we never saw that cartridge chambered in the P90 in 45 ACP which was actually built to handle the 10mm. Vast overkill in that firearm's design to shoot the 45 ACP which is a gentle cartridge by comparison.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 09:18 PM (ctrM5)
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193 Continue to work on shooting two groups from a resting position, and am pleased with the progress. I now immediately know if a shot will not go where intended.
Posted by: Grateful, the range bag lady at October 27, 2024 09:10 PM
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Sniper.
Posted by: Grateful, the range bag lady at October 27, 2024 09:10 PM
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Sniper.
Posted by: TRex at October 27, 2024 09:20 PM (IQ6Gq)
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OK, 9:20pm thank you time!
Thank you!
We hope to have a name for our new little buddy picked out soon, so tune in next Sunday!
Thank you!
We hope to have a name for our new little buddy picked out soon, so tune in next Sunday!
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2024 09:20 PM (Zwbe8)
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Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 09:16 PM
You mentioned the H&K. That's my baby. Must be something in the ergonomics between it and the 92. *shrugs*
You mentioned the H&K. That's my baby. Must be something in the ergonomics between it and the 92. *shrugs*
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 27, 2024 09:21 PM (mH6SG)
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Right now some of the copper plated is only $0.01 more per round.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
I would only buy a small box of Remington's Golden Bullet gilding metal wash (why it is gold instead of copper colored). The Golden Bullet seems to be hit or miss with particular firearms. But in Remington's self defense ammo, that same gilding metal jacket tends to perform very well as a defensive centerfire cartridge under the Golden Saber and Ultimate Defense brand names. Accurate pretty much across the line with good expansion. Their HTP older hollow points, on the other hand, are not that good for expansion.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
I would only buy a small box of Remington's Golden Bullet gilding metal wash (why it is gold instead of copper colored). The Golden Bullet seems to be hit or miss with particular firearms. But in Remington's self defense ammo, that same gilding metal jacket tends to perform very well as a defensive centerfire cartridge under the Golden Saber and Ultimate Defense brand names. Accurate pretty much across the line with good expansion. Their HTP older hollow points, on the other hand, are not that good for expansion.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 09:21 PM (ctrM5)
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Posted by: Grateful, the range bag lady at October 27, 2024 09:10 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Congratulations!
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Congratulations!
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2024 09:22 PM (Zwbe8)
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I love my SiG P938.
Answer to "snappy" recoil maybe... go down to some lighter projectiles, or lower pressure ammo.
Not everything has to be Hornady Critical Defense to be Good Ammo.
In any given gun, the BEST ammo are the loads you can aim, control and score follow-up shots, reliably. No matter how badass the load, it's best to be able to hit with more than just the first round.
Also. Consider the SiG , rubber, finger groove grip. Wraps around the frontstrap. Does work to reduce the Sting.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Answer to "snappy" recoil maybe... go down to some lighter projectiles, or lower pressure ammo.
Not everything has to be Hornady Critical Defense to be Good Ammo.
In any given gun, the BEST ammo are the loads you can aim, control and score follow-up shots, reliably. No matter how badass the load, it's best to be able to hit with more than just the first round.
Also. Consider the SiG , rubber, finger groove grip. Wraps around the frontstrap. Does work to reduce the Sting.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at October 27, 2024 09:22 PM (Xo+UM)
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141 Somebody likes pizza!
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2024 08:26 PM
My FIL's 3-legged Chihuahua also loves pizza.
So much so, that we had to have an "intervention" for my FIL.
3-legged dogs cannot get overweight and wear out the the only functional front shoulder!
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2024 08:26 PM
My FIL's 3-legged Chihuahua also loves pizza.
So much so, that we had to have an "intervention" for my FIL.
3-legged dogs cannot get overweight and wear out the the only functional front shoulder!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 27, 2024 09:22 PM (HlyYF)
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I will definitely be getting that Rugar LC Carbine in 45 ACP at some point. It’s on the list. And I will be shooting it surpressed. The 10 is also very tempting as a PCC cartridge.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 27, 2024 09:22 PM (P+Tnw)
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Respectfully, I'll be asking you to send the inquiry. 'Cause I won't be wanting to bother Weasel, asking for a never ending number of "he's got my addys".
I've set up a folder in my mail to keep all the inquires in one spot.
Please keep an eye on this space, and I'll further refine it. Probably by asking that the Subject line be the object in question. I can track 'em better, that way.
Thanks EVERYONE in advance for your interests and your help!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at October 27, 2024 08:55 PM
No worries, brother. Will do. Prayers up.
I've set up a folder in my mail to keep all the inquires in one spot.
Please keep an eye on this space, and I'll further refine it. Probably by asking that the Subject line be the object in question. I can track 'em better, that way.
Thanks EVERYONE in advance for your interests and your help!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at October 27, 2024 08:55 PM
No worries, brother. Will do. Prayers up.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 27, 2024 09:22 PM (Wnv9h)
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You mentioned the H&K. That's my baby. Must be something in the ergonomics between it and the 92. *shrugs*
Posted by: Notorious BFD
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I last fired the H&K USP in 45 ACP at the range as a rental (never owned one). The USP was too big for my hands.
Posted by: Notorious BFD
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I last fired the H&K USP in 45 ACP at the range as a rental (never owned one). The USP was too big for my hands.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 09:23 PM (ctrM5)
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The Keltec Sub2K is a PCC that folds in half which helps storage.....but then you need to unfold it to use.
Mine uses a different mag release to allow various 9mm mags. So you can use Sig / Glock / other mags if you already have them.
Mine uses a different mag release to allow various 9mm mags. So you can use Sig / Glock / other mags if you already have them.
Posted by: chappyman66 at October 27, 2024 09:23 PM (L3byd)
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OK, 9:20pm thank you time!
Thank you, Weasel! Gonna stay put here until the end. Looking forward to the christening of the new pooch!
Thank you, Weasel! Gonna stay put here until the end. Looking forward to the christening of the new pooch!
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 27, 2024 09:24 PM (mH6SG)
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The USP 45 is too big for my hands too. I get just the tip of my finger on the trigger. Yet, I have one and love shooting it. I’m a weirdo.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 27, 2024 09:25 PM (P+Tnw)
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Weasel,
Congrats on your new addition to your family. House OCiS is looking to add a dog as well. Been 2+ years since we lost our flatcoated retriever and the home seems a little empty. Sure we have 2 cats who've been featured on the pet thread, but they aren't up for hikes and car rides.
Congrats on your new addition to your family. House OCiS is looking to add a dog as well. Been 2+ years since we lost our flatcoated retriever and the home seems a little empty. Sure we have 2 cats who've been featured on the pet thread, but they aren't up for hikes and car rides.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 27, 2024 09:27 PM (2AW7/)
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Thanks as always for the thread, Weasel.
Posted by: chappyman66 at October 27, 2024 09:27 PM (L3byd)
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Thanks again, Weasel for a great Gub Thread!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 27, 2024 09:27 PM (Wnv9h)
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209 I will definitely be getting that Rugar LC Carbine in 45 ACP at some point. It’s on the list. And I will be shooting it surpressed. The 10 is also very tempting as a PCC cartridge.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
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I think the 10mm is a cool PCC cartridge that never got the attention until now that it deserved. I always kicked myself for not buying a new Marlin 1894 in 41 Magnum cheap back in the day but I lost out on a Smith and Wesson Revolver in the same and was in no mood to buy a carbine with no revolver to go with it.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
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I think the 10mm is a cool PCC cartridge that never got the attention until now that it deserved. I always kicked myself for not buying a new Marlin 1894 in 41 Magnum cheap back in the day but I lost out on a Smith and Wesson Revolver in the same and was in no mood to buy a carbine with no revolver to go with it.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 09:29 PM (ctrM5)
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Also. Consider the SiG , rubber, finger groove grip. Wraps around the frontstrap. Does work to reduce the Sting.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at October 27, 2024 09:22 PM (Xo+UM)
It was a rental so shooting the range's 115 grain Blazer.
It's a nice gun - it was even a Legion model. But seemed like a Baby 1911 would eat a little more of the recoil than the Polymer P365.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at October 27, 2024 09:22 PM (Xo+UM)
It was a rental so shooting the range's 115 grain Blazer.
It's a nice gun - it was even a Legion model. But seemed like a Baby 1911 would eat a little more of the recoil than the Polymer P365.
Posted by: blaster at October 27, 2024 09:31 PM (QfvaV)
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214 The USP 45 is too big for my hands too. I get just the tip of my finger on the trigger. Yet, I have one and love shooting it. I’m a weirdo.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
You adapted to it which is fine. I learned to shoot revolvers and that involves the power crease (aka first joint on the trigger) so you can shoot double action. So, I don't shoot with the pad well and tend to pull my shots. Would do even worse now as hand strength has declined.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
You adapted to it which is fine. I learned to shoot revolvers and that involves the power crease (aka first joint on the trigger) so you can shoot double action. So, I don't shoot with the pad well and tend to pull my shots. Would do even worse now as hand strength has declined.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 09:31 PM (ctrM5)
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Anybody here own or have used a Smith & Wesson M&P FPC .9mm? I've been researching it. Lots to like about it. Haven't read or seen anything negative about it, well nothing major. Lots of nice PCCs out there.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at October 27, 2024 09:32 PM (ROiUZ)
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Thanks for hosting, Weasel!
Posted by: Ed L at October 27, 2024 09:32 PM (yRXSd)
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Ed L mentioned above Extar EP9 which is PCC-like but is a pistol. Well they do sell a carbine now with 16 in barrel but it looks weird to me.
Anyway continue my evangelizing on that thing it is absolutely most smiles per dollar on shooting it. Takes Glock mags.
Not sure it makes a good wheelchair gun though.
Anyway continue my evangelizing on that thing it is absolutely most smiles per dollar on shooting it. Takes Glock mags.
Not sure it makes a good wheelchair gun though.
Posted by: blaster at October 27, 2024 09:34 PM (QfvaV)
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I do need to get a revolver so I can get better on DA. I don’t quite have that down yet. People tell me I need to get it customized to make it lighter, but I’d rather have something heavy and just get good at it.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 27, 2024 09:35 PM (P+Tnw)
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Puddleglum - friend of mine has one that I had a chance to fire a few rounds through. I really liked it. I have 2 Springfield XDs and I think I liked the M&P better.
Puddleglum - friend of mine has one that I had a chance to fire a few rounds through. I really liked it. I have 2 Springfield XDs and I think I liked the M&P better.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 27, 2024 09:35 PM (2AW7/)
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FWIW, I only bought handguns that fit my hand after a trying those that didn't.
One exception is my wife likes the bigger grips on a Ruger GP100 which I do not so I kept the bigger grips on it as she has long fingers and can shoot it well. I got a Bicentennial Security Six which fits better like a K Frame and can even use the same holsters often.
One exception is my wife likes the bigger grips on a Ruger GP100 which I do not so I kept the bigger grips on it as she has long fingers and can shoot it well. I got a Bicentennial Security Six which fits better like a K Frame and can even use the same holsters often.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 09:36 PM (ctrM5)
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Sniffybigtoe - I bought a Ruger Security Six revolver off a friend of mine. Like it a lot.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 27, 2024 09:37 PM (2AW7/)
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Beretta 92 is fun but it’s not a 1911.
Posted by: Eromero at October 27, 2024 09:38 PM (LHPAg)
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Thanks Horde and thank you Weasel. Have a good week.
Posted by: TRex at October 27, 2024 09:39 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Check out Garrett for leather lined kydex
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2024 08:52 PM (fFYnV)
I thought he was into Crocs? They do those in kydex?
Oh, wait, you already mentioned them....
(I'm checking them out, along with other recommendations. Internet search engines are not great at finding anything other than the big names.)
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2024 08:52 PM (fFYnV)
I thought he was into Crocs? They do those in kydex?
Oh, wait, you already mentioned them....
(I'm checking them out, along with other recommendations. Internet search engines are not great at finding anything other than the big names.)
Posted by: GWB at October 27, 2024 09:41 PM (E8qwH)
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224 I do need to get a revolver so I can get better on DA. I don’t quite have that down yet. People tell me I need to get it customized to make it lighter, but I’d rather have something heavy and just get good at it.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
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Heavy is good. You don't have an action to take the edge off of recoil via springs, etc. on a lightweight snubbie versus a small semi auto.
Learn to shoot a heavier one before moving to a snubbie. A snubbie, like the Smith Chief Special has the same intrinsic accuracy that the bigger one does but people shoot it more poorly without a lot of practice due to recoil and the shorter sight distance.
K Frames are a happy size, the new Colts are nice (or an Official Police if going older), Security Six are as tough as hammers and about the same size but a bit heavier than the K Frame, and then you have new players on the field like Kimber (never shot one) or the Chiappias Rhino (never tempted to even look at one).
I shot and carried a Smith Chief's Special in Stainless for years and could pretty much clock it via a flash sight picture. Alas, arthritis and reloading via speedloaders became futile and moved to an XDS because of it.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
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Heavy is good. You don't have an action to take the edge off of recoil via springs, etc. on a lightweight snubbie versus a small semi auto.
Learn to shoot a heavier one before moving to a snubbie. A snubbie, like the Smith Chief Special has the same intrinsic accuracy that the bigger one does but people shoot it more poorly without a lot of practice due to recoil and the shorter sight distance.
K Frames are a happy size, the new Colts are nice (or an Official Police if going older), Security Six are as tough as hammers and about the same size but a bit heavier than the K Frame, and then you have new players on the field like Kimber (never shot one) or the Chiappias Rhino (never tempted to even look at one).
I shot and carried a Smith Chief's Special in Stainless for years and could pretty much clock it via a flash sight picture. Alas, arthritis and reloading via speedloaders became futile and moved to an XDS because of it.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 09:42 PM (ctrM5)
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221 Anybody here own or have used a Smith & Wesson M&P FPC .9mm? I've been researching it. Lots to like about it. Haven't read or seen anything negative about it, well nothing major. Lots of nice PCCs out there.
Posted by: Puddleglum
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Yes there are and that is a good thing. PCCs are easier to shoot for a lot of people than handguns and quite effective for self defense with virtually no recoil and pretty large capacity mags out there depending on free state or not status.
Only seen the Smith in reviews online and mags.
Posted by: Puddleglum
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Yes there are and that is a good thing. PCCs are easier to shoot for a lot of people than handguns and quite effective for self defense with virtually no recoil and pretty large capacity mags out there depending on free state or not status.
Only seen the Smith in reviews online and mags.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 09:44 PM (ctrM5)
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225 221
Puddleglum - friend of mine has one that I had a chance to fire a few rounds through. I really liked it. I have 2 Springfield XDs and I think I liked the M&P better.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 27, 2024 09:35 PM (2AW7/)
I gave a XD 45 and a XD 9 to a friend, replaced them with a G21 and a G19. The only semiauto Springfield I own now is a 1911 Operator 45. Put it right up there with the best, a Sig TacOps.
Puddleglum - friend of mine has one that I had a chance to fire a few rounds through. I really liked it. I have 2 Springfield XDs and I think I liked the M&P better.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 27, 2024 09:35 PM (2AW7/)
I gave a XD 45 and a XD 9 to a friend, replaced them with a G21 and a G19. The only semiauto Springfield I own now is a 1911 Operator 45. Put it right up there with the best, a Sig TacOps.
Posted by: Eromero at October 27, 2024 09:45 PM (LHPAg)
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Guess I'l evangelize once again. If you are considering a wheelgun, look into the S&W 686 models. End of sermon. Heh.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 27, 2024 09:47 PM (mH6SG)
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Alas, arthritis and reloading via speedloaders became futile and moved to an XDS because of it.
Whig
I have a XD Mod 2 in 9mm that is a nice for çç. I also have a XD 5" XD in 45acp with tritium sights while on the large size for cc, fits my needs for "get home" purposes.
Alas, arthritis and reloading via speedloaders became futile and moved to an XDS because of it.
Whig
I have a XD Mod 2 in 9mm that is a nice for çç. I also have a XD 5" XD in 45acp with tritium sights while on the large size for cc, fits my needs for "get home" purposes.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 27, 2024 09:47 PM (2AW7/)
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234 Guess I'l evangelize once again. If you are considering a wheelgun, look into the S&W 686 models. End of sermon. Heh.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 27, 2024 09:47 PM (mH6SG
I second on that one too.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 27, 2024 09:47 PM (mH6SG
I second on that one too.
Posted by: Eromero at October 27, 2024 09:49 PM (LHPAg)
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224 I do need to get a revolver so I can get better on DA. I don’t quite have that down yet. People tell me I need to get it customized to make it lighter, but I’d rather have something heavy and just get good at it.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
The 2020 Colt Python in its various forms has a smooth DA trigger pull, better (I think) than the vintage models. The Colt King Cobra (2019 version) is pretty good too, but .357 Magnum out of this small frame revolver is tough to control. You'll need a 3" barrel to cut back on the worst of the muzzle blast and recoil.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
The 2020 Colt Python in its various forms has a smooth DA trigger pull, better (I think) than the vintage models. The Colt King Cobra (2019 version) is pretty good too, but .357 Magnum out of this small frame revolver is tough to control. You'll need a 3" barrel to cut back on the worst of the muzzle blast and recoil.
Posted by: Ed L at October 27, 2024 09:50 PM (yRXSd)
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'nite y'all!
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2024 09:51 PM (RG6z4)
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I gave a XD 45 and a XD 9 to a friend, replaced them with a G21 and a G19. The only semiauto Springfield I own now is a 1911 Operator 45. Put it right up there with the best, a Sig TacOps.
Posted by: Eromero
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I still have my XD's as Glocks (aside from the 30) never fit me and I did not shoot as well with them.
First new firearm (usually could only afford used until then) I bought was a Springfield XD (with the safety) in 45 ACP. Very accurate as most 45's tend to be. The safety was in the same place and same size as my older used FM (Argentine) High Power. Like them but those bitty safeties chewed my thumb up in extended range sessions.
I like their XDS in 9mm for carry as well when I do my infrequent visits now out of the house but not carrying now due to med issue.
Posted by: Eromero
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I still have my XD's as Glocks (aside from the 30) never fit me and I did not shoot as well with them.
First new firearm (usually could only afford used until then) I bought was a Springfield XD (with the safety) in 45 ACP. Very accurate as most 45's tend to be. The safety was in the same place and same size as my older used FM (Argentine) High Power. Like them but those bitty safeties chewed my thumb up in extended range sessions.
I like their XDS in 9mm for carry as well when I do my infrequent visits now out of the house but not carrying now due to med issue.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 09:52 PM (ctrM5)
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Yes there are and that is a good thing. PCCs are easier to shoot for a lot of people than handguns and quite effective for self defense with virtually no recoil and pretty large capacity mags out there depending on free state or not status.
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Not free status here -- 10-round limit for PCCs but being better than the 5-round limit for larger-calibre rifles, I've started with a PCC rather than e.g. a .556 semi. [At least .22LR semis and similar small calibres are up to 30 rounds though.]
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Not free status here -- 10-round limit for PCCs but being better than the 5-round limit for larger-calibre rifles, I've started with a PCC rather than e.g. a .556 semi. [At least .22LR semis and similar small calibres are up to 30 rounds though.]
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 27, 2024 09:53 PM (hovnC)
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used for aircraft, firearm, knife and tool sheaths, and more.
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Okay.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 27, 2024 09:10 PM (hovnC)
They make airplane sheaths?! Wow.
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Okay.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 27, 2024 09:10 PM (hovnC)
They make airplane sheaths?! Wow.
Posted by: GWB at October 27, 2024 09:54 PM (E8qwH)
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I have a XD Mod 2 in 9mm that is a nice for çç. I also have a XD 5" XD in 45acp with tritium sights while on the large size for cc, fits my needs for "get home" purposes.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
I have the tactical aka 5 inch version of the XD in 40 S&W--last firearm I bought several years ago and never yet fired it due to Covid and then medical issues.
The new Mod 3 looks appealing as it has the slide cut already for a red dot and is coming in at list price of $325. It uses the older versions magazines. But, have to get better before trying to buy a new gun that I cannot shoot.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
I have the tactical aka 5 inch version of the XD in 40 S&W--last firearm I bought several years ago and never yet fired it due to Covid and then medical issues.
The new Mod 3 looks appealing as it has the slide cut already for a red dot and is coming in at list price of $325. It uses the older versions magazines. But, have to get better before trying to buy a new gun that I cannot shoot.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 09:54 PM (ctrM5)
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'nite y'all!
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2024 09:51 PM
G'nite, amigo! Hope you have a great week.
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2024 09:51 PM
G'nite, amigo! Hope you have a great week.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 27, 2024 09:55 PM (mH6SG)
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'nite y'all!
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2024 09:51 PM
'nite, Weasel. Punching out, myself, Horde. See y'all in the Morning Report.
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2024 09:51 PM
'nite, Weasel. Punching out, myself, Horde. See y'all in the Morning Report.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 27, 2024 09:56 PM (Wnv9h)
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Not free status here -- 10-round limit for PCCs but being better than the 5-round limit for larger-calibre rifles, I've started with a PCC rather than e.g. a .556 semi. [At least .22LR semis and similar small calibres are up to 30 rounds though.]
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC)
Sorry about the limit. You might get a kick out of a lever action though--Rossi makes a clone of the old Winchester 92 which is nice enough, and Marlin, after going through Remington and now Ruger, is making their 1894 lever actions in 357 and 44 Magnums for a bit more. I think S&W has come up with a lever action (new design but has a misleading name) and then there is Henry which some people here have.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC)
Sorry about the limit. You might get a kick out of a lever action though--Rossi makes a clone of the old Winchester 92 which is nice enough, and Marlin, after going through Remington and now Ruger, is making their 1894 lever actions in 357 and 44 Magnums for a bit more. I think S&W has come up with a lever action (new design but has a misleading name) and then there is Henry which some people here have.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 09:57 PM (ctrM5)
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234 Guess I'l evangelize once again. If you are considering a wheelgun, look into the S&W 686 models. End of sermon. Heh.
Posted by: Notorious BFD
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Nearly pulled the trigger to buy one but got the GP 100 instead. Wife loves it and if you don't hit them with bullets, you can clobber them over teh head with it.
Posted by: Notorious BFD
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Nearly pulled the trigger to buy one but got the GP 100 instead. Wife loves it and if you don't hit them with bullets, you can clobber them over teh head with it.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 09:59 PM (ctrM5)
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Night folks.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 09:59 PM (ctrM5)
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if you don't hit them with bullets, you can clobber them over teh head with it.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 09:59 PM (ctrM5)
I have a GP100 and three S&Ws. The S&Ws are simply finer revolvers. Maybe not as robust, but they are more elegant.
Posted by: whig at October 27, 2024 09:59 PM (ctrM5)
I have a GP100 and three S&Ws. The S&Ws are simply finer revolvers. Maybe not as robust, but they are more elegant.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 27, 2024 10:02 PM (d9fT1)
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 27, 2024 10:03 PM (hovnC)
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 27, 2024 10:03 PM (hovnC)
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The 2020 Colt Python in its various forms has a smooth DA trigger pull, better (I think) than the vintage models.
Posted by: Ed L at October 27, 2024 09:50 PM (yRXSd)
And the SA trigger pull is fantastic on the newer Python. Not as hair trigger as the older models. It's still on my Want List.
Posted by: Ed L at October 27, 2024 09:50 PM (yRXSd)
And the SA trigger pull is fantastic on the newer Python. Not as hair trigger as the older models. It's still on my Want List.
Posted by: GWB at October 27, 2024 10:03 PM (E8qwH)
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 27, 2024 10:03 PM (hovnC)
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Nooded now.
Posted by: GWB at October 27, 2024 10:05 PM (E8qwH)
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Talking about firearms is therapeutic.
Posted by: Eromero at October 27, 2024 10:07 PM (LHPAg)
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ONT up
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 27, 2024 10:09 PM (hovnC)
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