Final NYT Poll: Tied Nationally.<br>Final CNN Poll: Tied Nationally.

Final NYT Poll: Tied Nationally.
Final CNN Poll: Tied Nationally.

A national tie is good for Republicans, usually, but a Democrat on Twitter claimed the 2012 final polls put Obama and Romney at a tie, and Obama on the national vote by 3.7% (or something like that).

So this is no time for complacency or false confidence. It's close enough that yes, your vote matters.

CNN:

InteractivePolls
@IAPolls2022
FINAL NATIONAL POLL: CNN/SSRS
Trump: 47%
Harris: 47%
Stein: 1%
Other: 2%
Last poll (9/22) - Harris +1
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Generic Ballot
GOP: 48%
DEM: 45%

The Hill reports on the Times/Siena poll:

Harris sees troubling signs in latest New York Times/Siena poll
The final national poll before Election Day from The New York Times and Siena College has some troubling signs for Vice President Harris, the Democratic presidential nominee.
The poll finds Harris deadlocked with former President Trump, the GOP nominee, after she led him in an earlier version of the poll taken in October by 3 percentage points.
The new poll is sparking talk that Harris could actually lose the popular vote to Trump.
...
Much of the talk surrounding the 2024 race has been about the chances of Harris winning the popular vote but losing the Electoral College to Trump, given the tightness of polling in seven key swing states.
But the New York Times poll suggests Harris is not building up the type of huge lead in the popular vote that might suggest she would also win the closely fought swing states.
...
In another bad sign for Harris, just 28 percent of respondents said the U.S. as a country was headed in the right direction. Given that Harris is the incumbent vice president and such numbers are difficult for a sitting administration to overcome, that is a tough number for her.

Actually, Trump's ahead of Harris in this poll when you look at the question about the real ballot, the ballot with five different candidates, not just head-to-head:

In a national poll from NY Times/Sienna released Friday, Donald Trump has surged to a one-point lead over Kamala Harris, 47 to 46 percent.
A little over two weeks ago, this same pollster showed the former president losing to Harris by three points, 44 to 47 percent.
That represents a four-point swing in one of the most trusted polls out there.
That particular result is when third-party candidates are included in the survey.
In a head-to-head race with no third-party candidates, this same poll shows the national race tied, 48 to 48 percent.

Trump's edge on the economy has supposedly shrunk to just 6 points, but I imagine that's due to Democrats just deciding that Aksually the economy must be good if I'm voting for these assholes again, after years of admitting the economy is terrible.

Still, not great.

One interesting point from Effeminate Thumb Chris Cillizza is the erosion of the Democrats' youth advantage.

Chris Cillizza
@ChrisCillizza
Broke down the 5 #'s from the NYT/Siena poll that jumped out to me.
One BIG one:
Harris is +12 among 18-29 year olds.
Biden won that age cohort by 24. Hillary won them by 19.
Trouble.

Don't get too excited: Biden is, of course, rigging the election by forcing Virginia (which is now in play) to put non-citizens who admitted they are non-citizens back on the election rolls so they can vote for Democrats:

Jason Miyares
@JasonMiyaresVA
Attorney General Miyares Releases Statement on Court Ruling Regarding Non-Citizens On Voter Rolls

It should never be illegal to remove an illegal voter. Yet, today a Court -- urged by the Biden-Harris Department of Justice -- ordered Virginia to put the names of non-citizens back on the voter rolls, mere days before a presidential election. The Department of Justice pulled this shameful, politically motivated stunt 25 days before Election Day, challenging a Virginia process signed into law 18 years ago by a Democrat governor and approved by the Department of Justice in 2006.
More concerning is the open practice by the Biden-Harris administration to weaponize the legal system against the enemies of so-called progress. That is the definition of lawfare. To openly choose weaponization over good process and lawfare over integrity isn't democracy: it's bullying, pure and simple, and I always stand up to bullies.
In the meantime, I encourage every Virginian to exercise their right to vote. Rest assured, I will never stop fighting to preserve the integrity of our election process.
The Commonwealth of Virginia will appeal this decision -- all the way to the Supreme Court, if necessary.

There's a real shot Trump may get his great white whale: winning the popular vote. Polls show the race nationally is basically even as Trump runs far ahead of where he polled in 2016 or 2020.

He'd be the 1st Republican to win the popular vote in 20 years & only 2nd in 36 years. pic.twitter.com/Pp4LJPwUZe
— (((Harry Enten))) (@ForecasterEnten) October 25, 2024

Scenes from the election trail:

Much Hitler.
Very Nazi. https://t.co/Iy9UJnO74m
— Allen Covert (@thatallencovert) October 25, 2024

Set aside what you think of the candidates and their policies, the optics have come down to this -- one side is out there impotently screaming "fascist," while the other is out there goofing around and literally kissing babies. https://t.co/ix41Y3o3vP
— Mark Hemingway (@Heminator) October 25, 2024

This insane dystopian ad threatening "your friends and family" will know if you voted or not is somehow very real and being aired by Kamala Harris's allies across the country https://t.co/uAxkk1BIHF pic.twitter.com/moLfcJNcWY
— Philip Letsou (@philipletsou) October 25, 2024

“I’m telling you, Brandon Johnson, from my heart to yours: Trump 2024.” —Chicago residents CALLS OUT Mayor Brendon Johnson and local leaders over excessive spending on illegal migrants.

“You’re running the city into the ground. We asked you over and over again to stop with the… pic.twitter.com/ygZFuS1KcW
— I Meme Therefore I Am 🇺🇸 (@ImMeme0) October 22, 2024

"A Michigan Arab man was kicked out of Kamala's event with Liz Cheney for no apparent reason, and it sparked so much outrage in the community that the Harris campaign had to apologize.

USSS confirmed he wasn't a threat. This is a disaster for Kamala."

Let's F&%$in' Go!

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 03:08 PM

Comments

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1 The correct interpretation of this glut of 50/50 polls, which extends to most swing state polls, is that pollsters are settling into the margin of error and will be able to say that they were kind of right no matter what happens.

This is their effort to save their industry by saying that they have literally no idea what's going to happen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 03:09 PM (GBKbO)

2 Looking good!

Posted by: Zeera The people are coming at October 25, 2024 03:10 PM (VNaXp)

3 I haz the sadz. My wife's boyfriends are all voting for Trump

Posted by: David French at October 25, 2024 03:11 PM (UxriW)

4 Are these really the last polls? There are 11 days to go.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 25, 2024 03:11 PM (aD39U)

5
If NYT says "tied" it means Trump is probably up 5-7.

But vote like he's down 3.

Posted by: Frank Barone at October 25, 2024 03:11 PM (+oR7L)

6 The CNN poll makes no sense. The top line race between Orange Hitler and Smegma-Colored Puta is tied, but the generic ballot is 48 to 45 in favor of GOP.

The Dums always out-poll the GOP on generic ballots (at least nationally). How is it possible that the race is tied but the GOP is surprisingly ahead on the generic?

I suspect the top-line race heavily over-sampled Dums. What's the D+ number?

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 25, 2024 03:12 PM (iFTx/)

7 >>>4 Are these really the last polls? There are 11 days to go.

the last polls for some of them. Others might do one or two more.

Even the candidates might start winding down private polling. Most of the pieces are now set. The opportunity to make adjustments based on polling data is closing.

Posted by: ace at October 25, 2024 03:12 PM (KRtlO)

8 Watching PDT with the kid, it's obvious PDT has handled children and his grandchildren.

And, beyond cute.

He truly is out having fun.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 25, 2024 03:13 PM (tT6L1)

9 This is their effort to save their industry by saying that they have literally no idea what's going to happen.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Probably correct and least tin-foil wearing explanation.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 25, 2024 03:13 PM (IG4Id)

10 >>>If NYT says "tied" it means Trump is probably up 5-7.

see I don't know about that, they all claim they've implemented all of these new techniques to try to find the shy trump voters.

what if they've gone too far and are polling too many trump voters? You never know.

as you say, vote like we're behind but within striking distance.

Posted by: ace at October 25, 2024 03:14 PM (KRtlO)

11 Just voted. Wish the integrity of the system could be trusted/fixed.

Pray without ceasing, my friends.

Posted by: DaisyB at October 25, 2024 03:14 PM (AbL8c)

12 I voted yesterday in one of the most hippy leftist parts of Austin in a food co-op. It was weird, i felt like the machine was going to blow up when I selected Trump.

Posted by: lin-duh who owns one at October 25, 2024 03:14 PM (7C6U9)

13 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 03:14 PM (Zz0t1)

14 I haz the sadz. My wife's boyfriends are all voting for Trump
Posted by: David French at October 25, 2024 03:11 PM (UxriW)
________

Her Latino pool-boy bull illegal migrant is still voting for Kumswala, though

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 25, 2024 03:14 PM (iFTx/)

15 I think the woman speaking at the meeting in Chicago should run for office. She has a lot of energy and knows her mind.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 25, 2024 03:14 PM (xantY)

16 They settled on a 'tie', which conveniently helps motivate the slightly less motivated Dems, and no major pollster will poll one more week when momemtum shows shift to Trump?

I suspect collusion.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 25, 2024 03:15 PM (fs1hN)

17 Chris Cillizza
@ChrisCillizza

Does he pronounce his name like 'pizza?'

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 03:15 PM (Zz0t1)

18 10 see I don't know about that, they all claim they've implemented all of these new techniques to try to find the shy trump voters.

what if they've gone too far and are polling too many trump voters? You never know.

as you say, vote like we're behind but within striking distance.
Posted by: ace at October 25, 2024 03:14 PM (KRtlO)

========

It seems obvious that if the early voting has any predictive power, that no, they haven't come close to fixing it.

Besides, again, MI and NC are not going to both be 50/50 states. NC is going to be something like Trump +5-8.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 03:15 PM (GBKbO)

19 I hit this yesterday. It's BART which is SanFran's rail system, only six employees, but I still think it's significant. And, no, I don't think Navin Gruesome will pay up without a fight

@nypost 1h
Transit workers fired for refusing COVID vaccines on religious grounds awarded $1.3M each https://trib.al/GjespHz

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 25, 2024 03:15 PM (IG4Id)

20 in the past I'd agree, if the polls say tie, that means the R is up by 3-4.

BUT... they keep claiming they have fixed (or at least tried to fix) the polling disasters of 2016 and 2020. Remember, the polls showed us winning in 2022, and we basically tied. (Tiny win in the House races.)

Posted by: ace at October 25, 2024 03:16 PM (KRtlO)

21 This is the last gasp of the USA. We are trending towards socialism, Trump is merely a speed bump.

Posted by: Tom at October 25, 2024 03:16 PM (cgSak)

22 The GOP has also pulled ahead very slightly in the RCP generic ballot. The Dems had been leading this for months. The GOP is either tied or leading in the six most recent polls.

Posted by: Mark1971 at October 25, 2024 03:16 PM (NZnln)

23 Obama told his sycophantic cultists to get in their face and bring a gun to a knife fight.

Ekdahl shouldn't be all that surprised when the Kamala campaign comes right out and threatens to send their people after voters who voted the wrong way.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 25, 2024 03:16 PM (tT6L1)

24 FINAL NATIONAL POLL: CNN/SSRS

Trump: 47%
Harris: 47%
Stein: 1%
Other: 2%

Last poll (9/22) - Harris +1

Harris had a 28% approval rating 4 months ago.

She can't fill a cafeteria at a nursing home during lunch hour.

But she's tied nationally with Trump.

Bullshit.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 03:16 PM (Zz0t1)

25 TJM, I thought we were going to win in 2022 too.

Posted by: ace at October 25, 2024 03:16 PM (KRtlO)

26
Does he pronounce his name like 'pizza?'

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 03:15 PM (Zz0t1)

I think it's pronounced like "jizz"

Posted by: Mark1971 at October 25, 2024 03:17 PM (NZnln)

27 I'm voting tomorrow morning in the Pee-pull's Re-pube-lick of NJ.
First time I'm ever early voting.
For whatever it's worth.

Posted by: Iasonas at October 25, 2024 03:17 PM (gUzGB)

28 We Love Trump is Cuban for Heil Hitler

Posted by: ... at October 25, 2024 03:17 PM (hmOfI)

29 but a Democrat on Twitter claimed the 2012 final polls put Obama and Romney at a tie, and Obama on the national vote by 3.7% (or something like that).

I don't know who these people are, but Trump attracts millions of voters that don't vote in midterms. They only turn-out to vote for him, and then disappear for four years. It fucks up the likely voters screening, which is why Trump always ends up doing better in the final count over what the polls predict...and why he's been unusually close in Registered Voter polls, when Republicans usually lag behind democrats significantly in those polls.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 25, 2024 03:17 PM (JCZqz)

30 25 TJM, I thought we were going to win in 2022 too.
Posted by: ace at October 25, 2024 03:16 PM (KRtlO)

========

250,000 mail in ballots illegally sent out in PA.

50-47.3 R-D vote total across all House races.

CA taking weeks to outright steal about 10 House races from R's.

I maintain that 2022 was actually a worse cheat than 2020.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 03:18 PM (GBKbO)

31 TJM, I thought we were going to win in 2022 too.
Posted by: ace at October 25, 2024 03:16 PM (KRtlO)

If it makes anyone feel better I absolutely did not, but I do think there is a chance Trump pulls this one out by grabbing an unexpected state (again).

Posted by: ... at October 25, 2024 03:18 PM (hmOfI)

32 This is from Politico:

"New poll: Trump is getting record levels of support among young Black and Latino men"

A quarter of young Black men are supporting Trump.

https://tinyurl.com/46yk2sc

I was happy when Hillary! lost.

Now, I want this dumb, communist, drunk humiliated.

Posted by: Jay in PA at October 25, 2024 03:18 PM (i7Q7S)

33 Posted by: Tom at October 25, 2024 03:16 PM (cgSak)

Then curl up with your blankie and sob in it. Real men (and women) are talking here.

Posted by: gKWVE at October 25, 2024 03:18 PM (gKWVE)

34 Alors, il commence.

Posted by: Ce gars qui pense toujours que ça commence. at October 25, 2024 03:19 PM (U1w17)

35 Literal Hitler kissing literal babies...

*shudder*

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at October 25, 2024 03:19 PM (Vyll1)

36 Another national poll

Democracy Institute

T 50

K 47

Posted by: It's happening at October 25, 2024 03:19 PM (hvsSs)

37 Are these really the last polls? There are 11 days to go.

the last polls for some of them. Others might do one or two more.

Even the candidates might start winding down private polling. Most of the pieces are now set. The opportunity to make adjustments based on polling data is closing.

Posted by: ace at October 25, 2024 03:12 PM

That plus early voting has already been happening in many States for a week or more now. Any further polling is expensive and will not move the needle one way or the other at this point.

Just a reminder but in 2020 at this point biden was up by 7.2 points nationally and he barely squeaked out a "win". harris can't win the EC with being tied in national polling.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 25, 2024 03:19 PM (QNSds)

38 I doubt anyone here needs further motivation, but here's some anyway: Secretary of State Victoria Nuland.

Posted by: spongeworthy at October 25, 2024 03:19 PM (CDWlY)

39 The correct interpretation of this glut of 50/50 polls, which extends to most swing state polls, is that pollsters are settling into the margin of error and will be able to say that they were kind of right no matter what happens.

This is their effort to save their industry by saying that they have literally no idea what's going to happen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 03:09 PM (GBKbO)

------------------

Nailed it, per usual, TJM.

Posted by: ShainS -- Musk May be The X-Factor in Overcoming Fraud at October 25, 2024 03:19 PM (BEFG1)

40 Harrumph. How did we become so divided?

Posted by: Black Panthers Wielding Batons at Polling Places at October 25, 2024 03:19 PM (hmOfI)

41 Oh, and more 2022 shenanigans.

Katie Hobbs was ruled to have illegally all but turned off signature verification on mail in ballots in the 2022 AZ election. Federal court made that decision 10 months after the election.

No order to redo anything, though. Hobbs was still governor despite a federal court saying that as SoS she had mishandled the election to her benefit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 03:19 PM (GBKbO)

42 I love how Trump was surprised at the Kid's response...

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 25, 2024 03:20 PM (QAkQ3)

43
Matt Wallace

@MattWallace888
Did you know that a double agent was just exposed in the Trump campaign siphoning off 22 million dollars?

His name is Chris LaCivita.

Instead of using the money for ads and other things in such an important election, he decided to pocket as much as possible.

He is a traitor to the United States of America and must face trial. He is also fat.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 25, 2024 03:20 PM (TGPs7)

44 I kept looking for Bernie Sanders and Lizzy Warren on the ballot but they're not there.

What kind of a fucking country am I living in?

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 25, 2024 03:20 PM (/u9Rl)

45 At the same Cuban restaurant:

Breaking911 @Breaking911 1h
TRUMP ON ‘HITLER’ ALLEGATIONS: “I never said that. I would never say that. It’s a rag, that he made up stories, he’s done it before. It’s a failing magazine, right before the election."

https://is.gd/kFcTDb
20 seconds; bonus -- crowd began chanting "we love Trump"; not loud oddly enough bad phone recording I guess.

Posted by: colbert audience before colbert corrected them at October 25, 2024 03:20 PM (hovnC)

46 Newt Gingrich destroys Mark Halperin over Democrats stealing elections
Trump vs Harris: A 2nd Run, 2nd Guess? | Friday, 10/25/24 (S2E20) | The Morning Meeting
youtube.com/watch?v=AfeuSK6wdVA&t=2097s

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at October 25, 2024 03:20 PM (9aVck)

47 I vote in an area that is something like 65/35 D/R, I expect the polling site to be packed, but will move along efficiently. I don't expect shenanigans will occur in a D majority area in a D majority county in an R state that has decent election rules.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 25, 2024 03:20 PM (fs1hN)

48 So, they are publishing national polls, which don't represent how the system works, and are excluding third party candidates, who are indeed on the ballot, in order to get to report a tie.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 25, 2024 03:20 PM (lTGtQ)

49 MI SoS Benson stated that all six swing state SoS: AZ, MI, WI, PA, NV and Ga speak together often. All are never-Trumpers. Too big to rig is what it has to be.

Posted by: EveR at October 25, 2024 03:20 PM (Z/h4+)

50 VA needs to just ignore the DoJ and use PA in 2020 as the example, where before the election PA voters couldn't challenge how PA was disregarding election laws, since no one had been hurt yet, and couldn't challenge after because it was too late.

Or i think another state tried to stop some Dem pushed law, and we're told a few weeks from election day is too close to change things.

Even if it doesn't go there way (as Dems and Reps wil never be treated the same) maybe it'll shine some light on the absurdity of 2020

Posted by: Rbastid at October 25, 2024 03:20 PM (ISYSq)

51 Posted by: spongeworthy at October 25, 2024 03:19 PM (CDWlY)
You owe me some eye bleach

Posted by: Iasonas at October 25, 2024 03:20 PM (gUzGB)

52 Off, cheering Comey's firing sock #45

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 25, 2024 03:20 PM (hovnC)

53 Trump really is Hitler, you know.

Posted by: Kommula Harris at October 25, 2024 03:20 PM (muwun)

54 Re: creepy 'IF you voted.." ad

Sounds like the D's are threatening their own, really.

"All party members WILL vote, comrades."

Also-- I can check to see whether my deceased relatives have voted?

Posted by: JQ at October 25, 2024 03:21 PM (njWTi)

55 The serfs are rebelling!

Posted by: David French at October 25, 2024 03:21 PM (UxriW)

56 35 Literal Hitler kissing literal babies...

*shudder*
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at October 25, 2024 03:19 PM (Vyll1)

White Male Nazi Baby!

Posted by: Duh Left.. at October 25, 2024 03:21 PM (QAkQ3)

57 That YTube ad about 'voting is public record' thing. I got a mailing a few years ago with the exact same wording. No idea who sent it. I threw it out. Yes, its creepy and Orwellian.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at October 25, 2024 03:21 PM (sAmhv)

58 Maybe Harris is nervous about having to serve after yet another stolen election? Her inability to articulate any sort of policy is because none has been formulated yet.

I think most anyone would be a nervous wreck if they were told they'd 'win' the election even if the movers and shakers have to resort to violence to achieve it.

Once the steal is codified and she's in the White House, all will become clear.

And if they fail, will she be taken to task for going along with it? Will anyone? Doubtful. But a bullet will have been dodged for about 4 years.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 25, 2024 03:21 PM (Q4IgG)

59 Nailed it, per usual, TJM.
Posted by: ShainS -- Musk May be The X-Factor in Overcoming Fraud at October 25, 2024 03:19 PM (BEFG1)

Easy there. A third of the time is not "usual".

Posted by: Black Panthers Wielding Batons at Polling Places at October 25, 2024 03:21 PM (hmOfI)

60 Damn, did I get willowed bigly!

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 25, 2024 03:22 PM (LxER7)

61 The picture with the little boy is adorable, but I think it's from Trump's last campaign.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 25, 2024 03:22 PM (xantY)

62 I love the Chicago video especially. Thanks Ace for finding these great vids.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 25, 2024 03:22 PM (UxriW)

63 The Explainer:

The adds warning that your vote status is public is mostly standard issue voter suppression - making people fear voting because there somehow might be repercussions. Also, the conspiracy minded might think that maybe even your actual vote is public (I will make another comment on that) and cause them to be reluctant to vote, or reluctant to vote against the dems if they are in dem dominant cities.

But there is a much more sinister possibility. This may be a long range plan to build support to make that information private. If they do that, then the public can not canvas, can not check addresses and do all the things MAGA has been doing for past 4 years to prove the cheat. If vote records are private, we become Venezuela where the vote is fully manufacture.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 25, 2024 03:22 PM (NEl9E)

64 You round eyes are all pikers. 40 Million...that's right 40 Million.
Posted by: Genghis Khan

Hey, Jean Pierre Kerry referenced you.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 25, 2024 03:22 PM (L/fGl)

65 Posted by: ace at October 25, 2024 03:14 PM

Yes. I still suffer from the "Red Wave" of '22 letdown.

Posted by: Frank Barone at October 25, 2024 03:22 PM (+oR7L)

66 All you bitches had better get out there and vote for Kamala or else ill smack your silly asses right into next week.

Posted by: First Gentleman Emhoff at October 25, 2024 03:22 PM (muwun)

67 Oh. That didn't work without my real handle.

Posted by: ... at October 25, 2024 03:22 PM (hmOfI)

68 Suggest people watch for Baris and Barnes “What Are The Odds” next video on Monday or Tuesday to get a more deep interpretation of polling. These aggregate polls and lack of polling context can be misleading. On Rumble or YouTube.

Posted by: electronic means at October 25, 2024 03:23 PM (VV/8N)

69 The very idea non citizens are allowed to vote is so preposterous and should be laughed at forever if it wasn't so serious

Posted by: A dude in MI at October 25, 2024 03:23 PM (/6GbT)

70 31 TJM, I thought we were going to win in 2022 too.
Posted by: ace at October 25, 2024 03:16 PM (KRtlO)

If it makes anyone feel better I absolutely did not, but I do think there is a chance Trump pulls this one out by grabbing an unexpected state (again).
Posted by: ... at October 25, 2024 03:18 PM (hmOfI)

Mitch and Kevin were trying desperately to lose 2022...neither are much of an effect this time (Kevin is gone and Mitch is an invalid), so we are WAY more united under Trump and now Johnson (who has been great in the "stay unified" role this whole summer and fall)...

Posted by: Nova Local at October 25, 2024 03:23 PM (exHjb)

71 I remember that pre election Gallop poll that had it 47% each.

I also remember having no enthusiasm about voting for Romney. In fact I distinctly remember the "get drunk and vote Romney" call that went out to frustrated conservatives.

There are ties that feel like you're losing and ties that feel like you're winning. 2012 was the former.

2024 is the latter.

Posted by: Shenanigans at October 25, 2024 03:23 PM (pZ0Mr)

72 George @BehizyTweets 2h
BREAKING: Lancaster, Pennsylvania officials have BUSTED a large-scale fraudulent voter registration scheme that includes thousands of applications with the same handwriting, fake signatures, false addresses, etc

They discovered the same scheme in other Pennsylvania counties.

District Attorney Heather Adams revealed that the applications came from canvassers who were paid to obtain voter registrations, adding that "The majority of the applications were from residents in the city of Lancaster... The canvases themselves took place at various shopping centers, parking lots of grocery stores and businesses, sidewalks and parks."

"We are aware of at least two other counties that receive similar applications that are currently being investigated."

If you listen closely, the DA said the Clerk received the applications at or near the deadline to register to vote. That means the bad actors waited till the last minute so no one would notice. They would've used the fraudulent applications to commit mail-in ballot fraud without getting caught.

We better check the entire state of Pennsylvania, and we better see arrests NOW.

https://is.gd/9sdOBq
4:06 minutes

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 25, 2024 03:23 PM (hovnC)

73 I doubt anyone here needs further motivation, but here's some anyway: Secretary of State Victoria Nuland.

Posted by: spongeworthy at October 25, 2024 03:19 PM (CDWlY)

---------------

Cartels, Cattle Cars, & Death Camps Czar Alejandro Mayorkas.

/only half-joking

Posted by: ShainS -- Musk May be The X-Factor in Overcoming Fraud at October 25, 2024 03:23 PM (h+f0D)

74 DC_Draino @DC_Draino 15m
This voter fraud bust in Pennsylvania may have just saved Trump’s presidency

The media says election fraud isn’t an issue

But they just busted *thousands* of fraudulent Democrat registrations

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 25, 2024 03:23 PM (hovnC)

75 The picture with the little boy is adorable, but I think it's from Trump's last campaign.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Yes. The sign says "Trump/Pence."

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 25, 2024 03:24 PM (v6JzV)

76 In the world of nicknames, "duck-billed platitude" for Kammie Harris is a pretty good one (courtesy of Scott Jennings on CNN, of all places).

Posted by: Octochicken at October 25, 2024 03:24 PM (oCS0o)

77 I saw Trump's Cuban restaurant visit video earlier today. People screaming "Viva Trump" at the top of their lungs.

That's enthusiasm. Sounds like ... Victory.

Posted by: mrp at October 25, 2024 03:24 PM (rj6Yv)

78 NEW 2024 Virginia GENERAL ELECTION POLL: QUANTUS INSIGHTS

🔵 Harris: 49%
🔴 Trump: 48%
🟡 Other: 3%

725 LV | Oct 22-24 | MoE 3.6%

[Link in name]

Early voting is down 400k compared to 2020. If current trend continues, it will be down ~640k votes. Trump lost Va in 2020 by 450k votes.

I'm also hearing that there's a New Mexico poll showing the race within 3.

Posted by: Skeptical at October 25, 2024 03:24 PM (ZZhoL)

79
�You�re running the city into the ground. We asked you over and over again to stop with the� pic.twitter.com/ygZFuS1KcW

— I Meme Therefore I Am 🇺🇸 (@ImMeme0) October 22, 2024

Wow.

I never thought I'd see the day where THAT went down in Chitcago.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 03:24 PM (Zz0t1)

80 Romney was the most un-relatable GOP candidate in my lifetime, well maybe except for HW.

Trump goes to McDonald's, babershops, UFC fights, football games, and Theo Von and Joe Rogan podcasts.

We'll see.

Posted by: Iasonas at October 25, 2024 03:25 PM (gUzGB)

81 Hey, I just realized something. Both of Trump's running mates' last names end in "nce."

Weird.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 25, 2024 03:25 PM (v6JzV)

82 >>>You owe me some eye bleach

She used to be okay-looking, but hate and menopause destroyed her looks.

She wants that job and, barring hideous revelations during confirmation, she'll get it if the drunken half-wit wins.

Posted by: spongeworthy at October 25, 2024 03:25 PM (CDWlY)

83 The media says election fraud isn’t an issue
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What is the point of lying if you're gonna admit you're lying.

Posted by: ... at October 25, 2024 03:26 PM (hmOfI)

84 Hey, there's a new nic with ominous poll results. I just don't know what to make of it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 25, 2024 03:26 PM (muwun)

85 The correct interpretation of this glut of 50/50 polls, which extends to most swing state polls, is that pollsters are settling into the margin of error and will be able to say that they were kind of right no matter what happens.

This is their effort to save their industry by saying that they have literally no idea what's going to happen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 03:09 PM (GBKbO)
__________

You are at least half right. I think the other half of the reason for the glut of 50-50 polls (or at least some portion of the reason) is that they don't want to show Trump with a real lead. I'll bet the D+ numbers are fucked in the ass to get to the tie.

I continue to believe the internal polls show Kamala getting fisted by a dozen Willie Browns. How do I know? Ignore what they say. Watch what they do. And what they are doing is insane panicking. Why? If indeed the race was tied, they could easily steal it. They'd have it in the bag.

They are acting like they DON'T have this in the bag, which suggests internal polling showing yuge Trump leads.

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 25, 2024 03:26 PM (iFTx/)

86
What they say: "Harris Sees Troubling Signs"

What they mean: "Harris Sees Doom"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 25, 2024 03:26 PM (EsZUh)

87 78 NEW 2024 Virginia GENERAL ELECTION POLL: QUANTUS INSIGHTS

🔵 Harris: 49%
🔴 Trump: 48%
🟡 Other: 3%

725 LV | Oct 22-24 | MoE 3.6%

[Link in name]

Early voting is down 400k compared to 2020. If current trend continues, it will be down ~640k votes. Trump lost Va in 2020 by 450k votes.

I'm also hearing that there's a New Mexico poll showing the race within 3.
Posted by: Skeptical at October 25, 2024 03:24 PM (ZZhoL)

Youngkin has been great for VA R prospects...the man has made the state purple b/c he cares not just about himself, but the state of the state and the whole party...

Posted by: Nova Local at October 25, 2024 03:26 PM (exHjb)

88 81 Hey, I just realized something. Both of Trump's running mates' last names end in "nce."

Weird.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 25, 2024 03:25 PM (v6JzV)

Those letters are perfectly cromulent together.

Posted by: Reince Priebus at October 25, 2024 03:27 PM (PiwSw)

89 Hey, I just realized something. Both of Trump's running mates' last names end in "nce."

Weird.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 25, 2024 03:25 PM (v6JzV)

I heard someone say Trump chose Vance so her could re-use his 2020 campaign signs with only a small adjustment.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 25, 2024 03:27 PM (muwun)

90 The final polls, according to RCP, had the bastard Son of Frank Marshall Davis up by 7.3%

I tried to post the link but the software doesn't like me

The twit on twitter was a nitwit

Posted by: Catherine at October 25, 2024 03:28 PM (JUpL6)

91 Good afternoon good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 25, 2024 03:28 PM (WXNFJ)

92 >>> Posted by: ace at October 25, 2024 03:14 PM

Yes. I still suffer from the "Red Wave" of '22 letdown.
Posted by: Frank Barone at October 25, 2024 03:22 PM (+oR7L)

=====

Agreed.

Also, Jessica is hot.

Posted by: Turn 2 at October 25, 2024 03:28 PM (JfxgE)

93 In the world of nicknames, "duck-billed platitude" for Kammie Harris is a pretty good one (courtesy of Scott Jennings on CNN, of all places).
Posted by: Octochicken

When they catch duckbills in Australia, they put them in a really expensive handbag.

The duckbill Prada purse.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 25, 2024 03:28 PM (v6JzV)

94 8 Watching PDT with the kid, it's obvious PDT has handled children and his grandchildren.

And, beyond cute.

He truly is out having fun.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 25, 2024 03:13 PM (tT6L1)

--- --- ---

I like that vid, too.

But it's old, from 2016.
Notice the signs say "Trump - Pence".

That kid is probably 11 or 12 years old now.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 25, 2024 03:28 PM (6ydKt)

95 Sweet, sweet WaPo readers' tears.

https://is.gd/RnDXBw

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 25, 2024 03:28 PM (L/fGl)

96 The correct interpretation of this glut of 50/50 polls

"50/50" is our signal to give Trump the win, but take just enough in the House and Senate to stonewall to the end of his four years. After that, onwards to the Global Reset.

You get the executive, we get the legislative. 50/50.

Posted by: The Deep State at October 25, 2024 03:28 PM (qh15L)

97 Private votes.

I have seen reports that in most states ballots have unique ID, and that in some states that ID ties it to a voter registration record. In other states it is not explicitly tied, but it is easy enough to scan and connect.

How is this possible? Ballots are supposed to be private -- that is one of the key pillars of democracy -- and any ID on a ballot can easily tie the ballot to the voter using current tech. Scanning numbers is easy, but we also have face scanning and data analysis which can easily tie the time of vote to a ballot. Don't you think the party's would want to know exactly how each person votes for future targeted attention?

I feel like the USA has forgotten everything it knew about election security.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 25, 2024 03:28 PM (NEl9E)

98 That video from Chicago is impressive.

I hope it works out that way for ya'll, sister!

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 25, 2024 03:28 PM (6ydKt)

99 Fed Gov is also accepting at least a partial red wave.

This week, the Dept of Ed is now offering early retirement packages to their employees...they know their budget is getting slashed, so they are trying to get ahead of the RIFs...

Posted by: Nova Local at October 25, 2024 03:29 PM (exHjb)

100 Yeah, funny how RFK was still on the Calif. ballot.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 25, 2024 03:29 PM (QAkQ3)

101 I vote in an area that is something like 65/35 D/R
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Mine is more like 90/10 D/R... we lay low

Posted by: lin-duh who owns one at October 25, 2024 03:29 PM (7C6U9)

102 The point of the recent "neck and neck" polls is to make a Kamala Harris victory plausible so the the election fortification can carry her over the finish line. Everyone knows she's a terrible candidate running a dogshit campaign. No one would believe if she had any significant advantage over Trump

Brace yourselves folks. The rest of the year is going to be very, very bad.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at October 25, 2024 03:29 PM (n3H4S)

103 96 "50/50" is our signal to give Trump the win, but take just enough in the House and Senate to stonewall to the end of his four years. After that, onwards to the Global Reset.

You get the executive, we get the legislative. 50/50.
Posted by: The Deep State at October 25, 2024 03:28 PM (qh15L)

=========

In the explosion of cheating since 2020, even after 2018's effort to sabotage the entire caucus by Ryan, they still haven't been able to deliver the House to Democrats.

It's actually kind of amazing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 03:29 PM (GBKbO)

104 NH is within 3 for Trump. Ayotte(GOP) has a +3 lead over Craig in the NH gubernatorial race.

MN is tight, too.

Posted by: mrp at October 25, 2024 03:30 PM (rj6Yv)

105 The 50% that voted for Mitt did so very begrudgingly. Same with the 50% that will vote for Kamala - although 10% of those won't even know they are voting for Kamala.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 25, 2024 03:30 PM (sX1BW)

106 There are ties that feel like you're losing and ties that feel like you're winning. 2012 was the former.

2024 is the latter.
Posted by: Shenanigans at October 25, 2024 03:23 PM (pZ0Mr)

Exactly, precisely, THIS.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at October 25, 2024 03:30 PM (k9OZB)

107 Jefferson Rising @jeffersonrise 3h
America can't afford another 4 more years. Time to get @realDonaldTrump back. #Trump2024

https://is.gd/WaJxA4
1:35 minutes; very moving; not official but it should be.

DC_Draino @DC_Draino 3h
Wow one of the more powerful campaign videos I’ve seen this cycle

Really hits when you see all the horrors of the last 4 years compiled into 1 video

America needs saving

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 25, 2024 03:31 PM (hovnC)

108 Never work with animals and children. That Trump vid shows how nimble he really is. He realized there might be a pattern, tested it, then made a slam dunk look like a half court shot.

Posted by: ... at October 25, 2024 03:31 PM (hmOfI)

109 It’s over, guys. Rumor says an anonymous 22-year old woman will say in 1985, or maybe 1987, Trump, working the window cash register, tried to grab the wheel of her car while in a Burger King drive-through and he was wearing an SS uniform at the time, all while calling her “pussy” and forcing a copy of Project 2025 into her hands, and he got her pregnant simultaneously. Also he stiffed her when making change.

Posted by: electronic means at October 25, 2024 03:32 PM (VV/8N)

110 I feel like the USA has forgotten everything it knew about election security.
Posted by: Gentlemen

I worked for over ten years with a firm that installed election software at the state level. We covered both registration and tabulation functions. I personally worked on those systems for six different states.

Trust me when I say, you have no idea how bad it is . . .

Posted by: Tonypete at October 25, 2024 03:33 PM (WXNFJ)

111 Post

See new posts
Conversation
State Armor
@StateArmor
BREAKING: Chinese hackers are said to have targeted phones used by Trump and Vance, per NYT
“Investigators are working to determine what communications data, if any, was taken or observed by the sophisticated penetration of telecom systems…”
From nytimes.com https://t.co/6jEmUWYPHw
12:22 PM · Oct 25, 2024

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at October 25, 2024 03:33 PM (9aVck)

112 IF...and I say IF...half the people voting actually are pulling the lever for Harris, this country has problems no election will solve.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 25, 2024 03:33 PM (xcxpd)

113 We have more than polls.

We have voter turnout which appears to confirm the polls.

And we have Ds running away from K.

Posted by: It's happening at October 25, 2024 03:34 PM (hvsSs)

114 When they catch duckbills in Australia, they put them in a really expensive handbag.

The duckbill Prada purse.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
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If they contained actual platypus, I might buy one...

Posted by: lin-duh who owns one at October 25, 2024 03:34 PM (7C6U9)

115 I had to do a double-take when looking at the CNN poll at the top of the post. I thought it said Trump, Harris, Steiner.

I've been hanging out here too long.

Posted by: bluebell at October 25, 2024 03:34 PM (79pEw)

116 There are ties that feel like you're losing and ties that feel like you're winning. 2012 was the former.

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Then there are soccer "draws"

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 25, 2024 03:34 PM (sX1BW)

117 109 It’s over, guys. Rumor says an anonymous 22-year old woman will say in 1985, or maybe 1987, Trump, working the window cash register, tried to grab the wheel of her car while in a Burger King drive-through and he was wearing an SS uniform at the time, all while calling her “pussy” and forcing a copy of Project 2025 into her hands, and he got her pregnant simultaneously. Also he stiffed her when making change.
Posted by: electronic means at October 25, 2024 03:32 PM (VV/8N)

And that little girl was me.

Posted by: E Christine-Jean Blasey Carrol Ford at October 25, 2024 03:34 PM (PiwSw)

118 Yeah, funny how RFK was still on the Calif. ballot.
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 25, 2024 03:29 PM (QAkQ3)

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ISTR that he said he would only ask to be taken off ballots in swing states.

Posted by: Jordan61 at October 25, 2024 03:34 PM (DRSnL)

119 113 We have more than polls.

We have voter turnout which appears to confirm the polls.

And we have Ds running away from K.
Posted by: It's happening at October 25, 2024 03:34 PM (hvsSs)

========

The voter turnout does not confirm the polls.

The voter turnout indicates a giant polling miss. Again.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 03:34 PM (GBKbO)

120 100 Yeah, funny how RFK was still on the Calif. ballot.
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 25, 2024 03:29 PM (QAkQ3)

WA ballot too.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 25, 2024 03:34 PM (xcxpd)

121 Trust me when I say, you have no idea how bad it is . . .
Posted by: Tonypete at October 25, 2024 03:33 PM (WXNFJ)
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You're not making me feel better.

Posted by: bluebell at October 25, 2024 03:35 PM (79pEw)

122 WNBA team endorses Kamala.

Seattle Storm@seattlestorm
Here at the Storm, we are advocates for equality and opportunity. We need leaders who fight for us all, all the time.
Kamala Harris and Tim Walz align strongly with our mission and values, and we proudly endorse this presidential team.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 25, 2024 03:35 PM (L/fGl)

123 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 25, 2024 03:33 PM (xcxpd)

For what it's worth, the link in you nick doesn't work.

Markblog Forbidden or doesn't exist.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 03:35 PM (Zz0t1)

124 I dropped off my ballot today. I'm stupidly nervous about this election. There is no immediate impact on me regardless of how Calirado votes, but if the ranked choice and jungle primaries pass that is another check in the "I need to move even though it is a scary thing to do" column.

Posted by: PaleRider at October 25, 2024 03:35 PM (CKOCg)

125 Speaking as a lifelong Republican, I'd like to welcome all the new nics that we'll be seeing over the next week and a half here.

They will be explaining that Trump will lose, and that the fix is in in any case, so actually voting is pointless.

Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt is an important part of the runup to any election, and these nics will provide it.

Preach it, brothers!

Posted by: Lifelong Republican! at October 25, 2024 03:35 PM (uxCna)

126 WNBA team endorses Kamala.

Seattle Storm@seattlestorm
Here at the Storm, we are advocates for equality and opportunity. We need leaders who fight for us all, all the time.
Kamala Harris and Tim Walz align strongly with our mission and values, and we proudly endorse this presidential team.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 25, 2024 03:35 PM (L/fGl)

Who?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 03:35 PM (Zz0t1)

127 Going OT, but I keep wondering how long it will be before Starlink releases their own satellite phone that works with their constellation.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 25, 2024 03:35 PM (VNX3d)

128 109. Easily proven a lie. Burger King? No, Trump is a McDonalds man!

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at October 25, 2024 03:36 PM (7PziG)

129 Kamala Harris and Tim Walz align strongly with our (WNBA Storm) mission and values, and we proudly endorse this presidential team.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

What? Artificially propped up by the media?

Posted by: Tonypete at October 25, 2024 03:36 PM (WXNFJ)

130 DC_Draino @DC_Draino 15m
This voter fraud bust in Pennsylvania may have just saved Trump’s presidency

The media says election fraud isn’t an issue

But they just busted *thousands* of fraudulent Democrat registrations

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 25, 2024 03:23 PM (hovnC)

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BREAKING: Biden-appointed federal judge just orders Pennsylvania to allow fraudulent Democrat registrations to stand and all such "votes" to count. Developing ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Musk May be The X-Factor in Overcoming Fraud at October 25, 2024 03:37 PM (h+f0D)

131 I vote in an area that is something like 65/35 D/R
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Mine is more like 90/10 D/R... we lay low
Posted by: lin-duh who owns one at October 25, 2024 03:29 PM (7C6U9
_________

I live on the upper west side in Manhattan. It's like 110/-10 in favor of the commies. But surprisingly -- shockingly, even -- the actual people I run into tend to have more than a few conservatives and/or Trumpers. It's just that they're smart and keep a low profile until they know they're in friendly territory.

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 25, 2024 03:37 PM (iFTx/)

132 >> The voter turnout indicates a giant polling miss. Again.
——-
Last I checked, voter turnout looks to be lower than 2020. Maybe 155 million votes total, extrapolating. Early R voting down a bit, early D voting down much more.

Posted by: electronic means at October 25, 2024 03:37 PM (VV/8N)

133

Easy with victory lappin'

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2024 03:37 PM (H3efe)

134 And that little girl was me.

Posted by: E Christine-Jean Blasey Carrol Ford

*cough*

Posted by: MadisonE Christine-Jean Blasey Carrol Ford Cornbread at October 25, 2024 03:37 PM (xCA6C)

135 The democrat party of Whoopie Goldbergs and George Clooneys endorsing Kamala is in only one way like the neighbor's cat placing murdered doves on my doorstep.

The cat gets treats, but Kamala only gets the dick.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 25, 2024 03:37 PM (/u9Rl)

136 "When Trump was 16, he took photos of me in the bathroom with his cell phone while I was taking a shower in a department store changing room. Then he raped me and recorded the whole thing with his phone. I'm sure of it."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 03:37 PM (Zz0t1)

137 Trump in that Cuban restaurant is amazing. He’s like a frickin’ rock star. Like Michael Jordan in Chicago in 1997…

And that cutout in a sombrero…. Hope he ordered the taco salad 😂

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 25, 2024 03:37 PM (i5Vkf)

138 "MN is tight, too."

========

Would be the ultimate humiliation.

Posted by: Jay in PA at October 25, 2024 03:38 PM (i7Q7S)

139 I think Trump only wins if these polls are significantly wrong and miss shy Trump voters. If it's neck and neck for real, we'll be defrauded again. The counting won't stop until the result is right.

Posted by: Drunken Haruspex at October 25, 2024 03:38 PM (aj2jn)

140 Kind of funny that the Seattle Storm is supporting Harris/Walz when the WNBA players may strike . If that happens the NBA might just tank the whole league which is expected to lose $50m this year

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 25, 2024 03:39 PM (aRslG)

141 You have to love how Trump fights:

Auschwitz survivor Jerry Warstki, 94, denounces Kamala Harris in a new Trump campaign video for endorsing claims that former president is a “fascist” akin to Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler.

“I know more about Hitler than Kamala will ever know in a thousand lifetimes,” he says.

Posted by: Jay in PA at October 25, 2024 03:39 PM (i7Q7S)

142 Love the Beckham meme.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 25, 2024 03:39 PM (Hkcdp)

143 Who?

The Storm averaged 11,000 at home over a grueling 20-game schedule.

One of the powerhouses of American sports!

Posted by: Lifelong Republican! at October 25, 2024 03:39 PM (uxCna)

144 Just some back of the napkin calculations.

12-20 million illegal criminal invaders under Biden and border czar Harris in less than 4 years. So let's assume 16 million at a mere $50,000/yr/illegal public cost with no taxes paid.

That is a lot of money per year. Trillions of dollars. I can see where the Biden-Harris regime got us $475 billion in new debt in the last month.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 25, 2024 03:39 PM (17s+e)

145 Yeah Mittens Rombley was tied in 2012 but nobody really thought he’d win. It feels different this time.

But the Dem fraud game hooray is nothing like we’ve seen before either.

Posted by: Settled Science at October 25, 2024 03:39 PM (OTUva)

146 I'm a pessimist and I can't believe it's tied...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 25, 2024 03:40 PM (IyPmt)

147 132 >> The voter turnout indicates a giant polling miss. Again.
——-
Last I checked, voter turnout looks to be lower than 2020. Maybe 155 million votes total, extrapolating. Early R voting down a bit, early D voting down much more.
Posted by: electronic means at October 25, 2024 03:37 PM (VV/8N)

========

There's that, which is important an indicates a complete lack of Democrat enthusiasm.

But then there's also the fact that Republicans are leading by 10 points in FL, polling averages being only about Trump+7, and that doesn't include Others which will probably be majority Trump in FL.

There's that R's outnumber D's in returned and early voting in NV. That GA's black turnout is down ridiculously. That the gap between returned and requested ballots between the two parties in PA is significantly smaller than in either 20 or 22. That R heavy counties in WI are outright outvoting Dane County.

Saying everything's 50/50 when we're going to get a good number of these states going 53-47 or better for Trump is going to technically be within the margin for error, but no one should accept that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 03:40 PM (GBKbO)

148 132 >> The voter turnout indicates a giant polling miss. Again.
——-
Last I checked, voter turnout looks to be lower than 2020. Maybe 155 million votes total, extrapolating. Early R voting down a bit, early D voting down much more.
Posted by: electronic means at October 25, 2024 03:37 PM (VV/8N)

Well, it should be down. Because a lot of those 2020 votes were simply manufactured.

Posted by: Drunken Haruspex at October 25, 2024 03:40 PM (aj2jn)

149 Ted Lulu on the WaPo betrayal.

Ted Lieu@tedlieu
The first step towards fascism is when the free press cowers in fear.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 25, 2024 03:40 PM (L/fGl)

150 Watching PDT with the kid, it's obvious PDT has handled children and his grandchildren.

And, beyond cute.

He truly is out having fun.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 25, 2024 03:13 PM (tT6L1)

That little guy has a future !

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 25, 2024 03:41 PM (NtVYv)

151 I think Trump only wins if these polls are significantly wrong and miss shy Trump voters. If it's neck and neck for real, we'll be defrauded again. The counting won't stop until the result is right.
Posted by: Drunken Haruspex at October 25, 2024 03:38 PM (aj2jn)

Stop with the doom, please. This is not 2020…. Covid is a distant memory, Trump is not the incumbent (Komrade is), the last 4 years have been a shit show and everyone knows it. Her own party hates her. Enjoy the winning

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 25, 2024 03:41 PM (i5Vkf)

152 When Trump was 16, he took photos of me in the bathroom with his cell phone while I was taking a shower in a department store changing room. Then he raped me and recorded the whole thing with his phone. I'm sure of it."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 03:37 PM (Zz0t1)

While wearing a SS uniform!!

Posted by: Settled Science at October 25, 2024 03:41 PM (OTUva)

153 Karen Attiah reposted
Terry Dresbach
@draiochta14
This…This…This…all day long!
The Nazis came to power after the Depression and the massive flu epidemic.
Quote
Karen Attiah - Columnist: @washingtonpost
@KarenAttiah·5h
America would rather memory-hole the Covid pandemic -- however I cant help but wonder about the impact of mass death, disability, and unexpressed rage and grief on our politics in ways we aren't capturing yet.
Fear and collective humiliation can and does lead to fascism.
I think of hundreds of millions of Americans spent covid worrying about the vulnerability of seniors/ elders.
Is this why the media refused to face Biden's aging for so long? And is ignoring Trump's decline right now?
Are we that scared to confront mortality and decay?

Today has been an absolute stab in the back.
What an insult to those of us who have literally put our careers and lives on the line, to call out threats to human rights and democracy.

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at October 25, 2024 03:41 PM (9aVck)

154 Speaking as a lifelong Republican, even I was raped by Donald Trump during the 1990s.

I don't remember when or where it occurred - the only thing I remember was the swastika armband that Trump was wearing.

Posted by: Lifelong Republican! at October 25, 2024 03:41 PM (uxCna)

155 Ted Lulu on the WaPo betrayal.

Ted Lieu@tedlieu
The first step towards fascism is when the free press cowers in fear.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 25, 2024 03:40 PM (L/fGl)

You mean when they are actually neutral for once. The stupidity of these pols is of the charts

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 25, 2024 03:42 PM (NtVYv)

156 Last I checked, voter turnout looks to be lower than 2020. Maybe 155 million votes total, extrapolating. Early R voting down a bit, early D voting down much more.

Posted by: electronic means

Well yeah, 2020 had 3 million plus ballots that were not actually completed by voters.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 25, 2024 03:42 PM (lTGtQ)

157 Hey, I just realized something. Both of Trump's running mates' last names end in "nce."
Weird.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

I heard someone say Trump chose Vance so her could re-use his 2020 campaign signs with only a small adjustment.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)

I was driving behind a truck where someone had modified their old "Trump-Pence" bumper sticker like that. They cut a "V" and "A" out of some other sticker and pasted them over the top. Different font and color, to make it obvious, I guess.

Posted by: mikeski at October 25, 2024 03:42 PM (DgGvY)

158 WNBA team endorses Kamala.

Seattle Storm@seattlestorm
Here at the Storm, we are advocates for equality and opportunity. We need leaders who fight for us all, all the time.
Kamala Harris and Tim Walz align strongly with our mission and values, and we proudly endorse this presidential team.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 25, 2024 03:35 PM (L/fGl)

Who?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 03:35 PM (Zz0t1)
______

That endorsement will net not a single additional vote for the puta. It may, however, prop up a few Trump votes. So a bunch of over-paid, screeching, ugly rug-munchers LARPing real basketball support the whore? There are probably a few guys out there -- black guys especially -- who were waffling on Trump but now are saying "I've seen enough" and will vote for him.

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 25, 2024 03:42 PM (iFTx/)

159 Posted by: Drunken Haruspex at October 25, 2024 03:38 PM (aj2jn)

I just LUV these words of encouragement. Drink some more and stop posting on here about this, please. I'm going to vote and encourage everyone I know to do the same-for Trump and a R ticket down the line.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 25, 2024 03:42 PM (MQJVv)

160 WNBA team endorses Kamala.

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NASCAR hardest hit ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Musk May be The X-Factor in Overcoming Fraud at October 25, 2024 03:43 PM (h+f0D)

161 We better check the entire state of Pennsylvania, and we better see arrests NOW.

We will get right on that!

Posted by: No Elected Official Was Officially Elected at October 25, 2024 03:43 PM (GN7By)

162 "That R heavy counties in WI are outright outvoting Dane County."

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It moved.

Posted by: Jay in PA at October 25, 2024 03:43 PM (i7Q7S)

163 162 "That R heavy counties in WI are outright outvoting Dane County."

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It moved.
Posted by: Jay in PA at October 25, 2024 03:43 PM (i7Q7S)

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WI feels like the most secure, election process wise, out of the three of WI, MI, and PA.

Which seems counterintuitive, but it's more about how bad MI and PA are.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 03:43 PM (GBKbO)

164 Well, it should be down. Because a lot of those 2020 votes were simply manufactured.

Posted by: Drunken Haruspex

You know who else manufactured a lot of votes?

Posted by: Archimedes at October 25, 2024 03:44 PM (xCA6C)

165 Who?

Kentucky Derby Winner. Quite a long time ago.

Posted by: t-bird at October 25, 2024 03:44 PM (3l0s/)

166 I think of hundreds of millions of Americans spent covid worrying about the vulnerability of seniors/ elders.

—

lol.

Hundred of millions!!!! Uhm no.

A Few million Karens did. Most of us just led our normal lives.

Posted by: Settled Science at October 25, 2024 03:44 PM (OTUva)

167 Kind of funny that the Seattle Storm is supporting Harris/Walz when the WNBA players may strike . If that happens the NBA might just tank the whole league which is expected to lose $50m this year
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 25, 2024 03:39 PM (aRslG)
___________

DON'T FUCKING TEASE ME, BRO

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 25, 2024 03:44 PM (iFTx/)

168 Few are voting FOR Harris.

They are voting for MAGA Trump,
OR
Voting AGAINST "Trump who is Hitler, a Threat to our Democracy".

Posted by: illiniwek at October 25, 2024 03:44 PM (Cus5s)

169 The serfs are rebelling!
Posted by: David French

I'll say. They stink on ice~!

Posted by: King 'Mel' Louis VI at October 25, 2024 03:45 PM (IG4Id)

170 I received a letter yesterday from "Progressive Turnout Project" that had that same creepy message about "we know if you voted or not, and we will be checking".

Posted by: Andy_in_Colorado at October 25, 2024 03:45 PM (4SXtY)

171 Really hits when you see all the horrors of the last 4 years compiled into 1 video

America needs saving
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 25, 2024 03:31 PM (hovnC)

It's not dusty in my office. I am actually weeping.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at October 25, 2024 03:45 PM (k9OZB)

172 "one side is out there impotently screaming "fascist," while the other is out there goofing around and literally kissing babies."

Yeah, but are offering to let you kill babies because that is your basic right.

Posted by: Ripley at October 25, 2024 03:45 PM (PTDkx)

173
Ted Lieu@tedlieu
The first step towards fascism is when the free press cowers in fear.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 25, 2024 03:40 PM (L/fGl)

You misspelled 'doesn't cater to the Democrats,' you commie f*ckbag.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 03:45 PM (Zz0t1)

174 159 Posted by: Drunken Haruspex at October 25, 2024 03:38 PM (aj2jn)

I just LUV these words of encouragement. Drink some more and stop posting on here about this, please. I'm going to vote and encourage everyone I know to do the same-for Trump and a R ticket down the line.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 25, 2024 03:42 PM (MQJVv)

I don't owe it to you to only post things you agree with.

Posted by: Drunken Haruspex at October 25, 2024 03:46 PM (aj2jn)

175 The fat lady sang for Kamala with that WNBA endorsement. The kiss of death….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 25, 2024 03:46 PM (i5Vkf)

176 @163 - maybe a sliver of hope, the PA SoS is a "Republican" (from Philly) who is appointed by the Governor.

But the PA Supreme court has shown again & again that they will do anything to stop Nazi Trump. They just ruled anyone who doesn't follow the mail in ballot rules can be awarded a provisional ballot!

Posted by: Jay in PA at October 25, 2024 03:46 PM (i7Q7S)

177 FAO Schwartz is selling "exclusively" through Target. They sent a catalog with no prices listed on toys.
No telling how much those My First Pegger kits are going for.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at October 25, 2024 03:46 PM (wBaIH)

178 Trust me when I say, you have no idea how bad it is . . .
Posted by: Tonypete

I think I do.
I have been watching our voting systems fall into insanity valley since 2020 and the Dems poured money into "modernizing" elections.
Just about everything we do is not only wrong, but stupid, amateurish, insecure, wasteful, and corrupt. Often diabolical and insulting.

I don't know where to begin in listing the problems, so I point out little ones as they come up in a discussion.

The only solution is to toss out anything done in the past 24 years and go back to paper accounting books of registrations with paper signatures, paper ballots on one day in-person voting. No absentee, no early, no late. No computers. No software, and no electronics in the voting area.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 25, 2024 03:46 PM (NEl9E)

179 Something made a giant kaboom in a building belonging to the IR Ministry of Defence in Tehran.

Posted by: The October Surprise Arrives! at October 25, 2024 03:46 PM (uxCna)

180 Trump's exhausted!!!

The Post Millennial @TPostMillennial Oct 24
Kamala Harris: “As for last night, yet again, Trump not showing up. Refused to be part of a CNN debate. Clearly his staff has been saying he’s exhausted and the sad part about that is he’s trying to be President of the United States."

Margo Martin @margommartin 4h
A day in the life on the campaign trail with President @realDonaldTrump 🇺🇸

https://is.gd/UT6Vcm
1:14 minutes; very well-made video

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 25, 2024 03:46 PM (hovnC)

181 159 Posted by: Drunken Haruspex at October 25, 2024 03:38 PM (aj2jn)

I just LUV these words of encouragement. Drink some more and stop posting on here about this, please. I'm going to vote and encourage everyone I know to do the same-for Trump and a R ticket down the line.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 25, 2024 03:42 PM (MQJVv)

Amen! And keep finding the paid operatives looking to depress the R vote. They are easy to find here and call out.

For now, all of us need to vote, vote, vote, vote, vote - red up and down the ticket!

Posted by: Nova Local at October 25, 2024 03:47 PM (exHjb)

182 Kamala Harris and Tim Walz align strongly with our mission and values,

Harris and Walz have opined about women's basketball? What's your mission? To win basketball games? Should Harris and Walz come out in basketball plays attire and do some dribbling at their next event?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 25, 2024 03:47 PM (MQJVv)

183 https://tinyurl.com/2nx2bxj6

For what it's worth---

Last NYT poll, 2012, linked above. 48-43 Obama over Romney. Though it looks like Romney polled very close at other times through the race, in NYT polls.

Posted by: Hippogryph at October 25, 2024 03:47 PM (R1Eqe)

184 Ted Lulu on the WaPo betrayal.

Ted Lieu@tedlieu
The first step towards fascism is when the free press cowers in fear.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 25, 2024 03:40 PM (L/fGl)

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"Free Press?" BWAHAHAHAHA!

I don't think that phrase means what you think it does, asshat.

When you've lost one of the titans of the sycophantic MDM-MSM Progda Enemedia Praetorian Guard whores ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Musk May be The X-Factor in Overcoming Fraud at October 25, 2024 03:47 PM (0BW02)

185 This is their effort to save their industry by saying that they have literally no idea what's going to happen.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 03:09 PM (GBKbO)

Ah… the Boeing corporate strategy….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 25, 2024 03:47 PM (i5Vkf)

186 183 https://tinyurl.com/2nx2bxj6

For what it's worth---

Last NYT poll, 2012, linked above. 48-43 Obama over Romney. Though it looks like Romney polled very close at other times through the race, in NYT polls.
Posted by: Hippogryph at October 25, 2024 03:47 PM (R1Eqe)

========

2012 was the year of unskewing, and it wasn't because the polls were saying Romney was up.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 03:47 PM (GBKbO)

187 I can feel a Trump win in my bones, or maybe it's arthritis

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 25, 2024 03:48 PM (NtVYv)

188 151 I think Trump only wins if these polls are significantly wrong and miss shy Trump voters. If it's neck and neck for real, we'll be defrauded again. The counting won't stop until the result is right.
Posted by: Drunken Haruspex at October 25, 2024 03:38 PM (aj2jn)

Stop with the doom, please. This is not 2020…. Covid is a distant memory, Trump is not the incumbent (Komrade is), the last 4 years have been a shit show and everyone knows it. Her own party hates her. Enjoy the winning
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 25, 2024 03:41 PM (i5Vkf)

If you consider it doom-posting to think it's possible to lose this election, you have a weird definition of doom-posting.

Posted by: Drunken Haruspex at October 25, 2024 03:48 PM (aj2jn)

189 RIP Phil Lesh, Grateful Dead/Phil Lesh and Friends.

Posted by: HarrysNotHere at October 25, 2024 03:48 PM (nefq2)

190 Ted Lieu@tedlieu
The first step towards fascism is when the free press cowers in fear.

Don't give away our recipe, you dunce!

Posted by: Barack Obama at October 25, 2024 03:48 PM (3l0s/)

191 I'm spending the night in Letterkenny.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at October 25, 2024 03:48 PM (LpSeU)

192
Rasmussen - ultra right wing pollster, did I mention how right wing, or just how ultra right wing he is? Has had Trump +2 forever while the leftist pollsters have had Harris as much as plus 6, but are now calling it even.

I don't know who to trust.

/ Total sarcasm
/ Still, get out and vote and PUNISH these sons of bitches.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 25, 2024 03:48 PM (MwtZ5)

193 The trend is our friend Trump rising, Klamala falling

Finish her

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 25, 2024 03:48 PM (NtVYv)

194 145 Yeah Mittens Rombley was tied in 2012 but nobody really thought he’d win. It feels different this time.

But the Dem fraud game hooray is nothing like we’ve seen before either.
Posted by: Settled Science
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Not really--Polling in 2012 had two tracks. Gallup and Rasmussen had Romney competitive. The rest had Obama up during October. Merging the whole polling results simply compounded the error.

That is the election that I figured out everything had changed in what I knew about elections because of the split. Gallup quit presidential polling despite being in it at its beginning and did not poll 2016, 2020, and this year. Rasmussen ended up mebbe two years later or so removing Scott Rasmussen from the company.

But, something seems off about the 2012 election because Karl Rove on screen had a meltdown over a call and Romney's team seemed surprised as well due to multiple polling failures in seeming red states like Florida.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2024 03:49 PM (ctrM5)

195 I live on the upper west side in Manhattan. It's like 110/-10 in favor of the commies. But surprisingly -- shockingly, even -- the actual people I run into tend to have more than a few conservatives and/or Trumpers. It's just that they're smart and keep a low profile until they know they're in friendly territory.
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 25, 2024 03:37 PM (iFTx/)

I live across the park from you. Pretty much all of my (male) friends are at least Trump-curious. Women? Different story entirely.

But yes, no one talks about being Trump-curious publicly.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 25, 2024 03:49 PM (Evo1G)

196 ...I have seen reports that in most states ballots have unique ID, and that in some states that ID ties it to a voter registration record...
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When we voted, the workers scanned ID & then printed out ballot on the spot after each. No doubt in my mind that the votes are tied to the voters. (Idaho)

Posted by: JQ at October 25, 2024 03:49 PM (njWTi)

197 192
Rasmussen - ultra right wing pollster, did I mention how right wing, or just how ultra right wing he is? Has had Trump +2 forever while the leftist pollsters have had Harris as much as plus 6, but are now calling it even.

I don't know who to trust.

/ Total sarcasm
/ Still, get out and vote and PUNISH these sons of bitches.
Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 25, 2024 03:48 PM (MwtZ5)

=======

*pedantic correction*

Scott Rasmussen is now unaffiliated with Rasmussen Reports and hasn't been for something like a decade. He started another firm (whose name I cannot recall).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 03:49 PM (GBKbO)

198 182 Kamala Harris and Tim Walz align strongly with our mission and values,

I can't wait for the trannys to start playing womens professional basketball and soccer.

*pops popcorn *

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 25, 2024 03:50 PM (eCnv0)

199 So this is no time for complacency or false confidence. It's close enough that yes, your vote matters.

This.

All my life I have been hearing how "This election is for the survival of America!"
Well, now it's true.
If Harris wins, every election afterwards will be a sham and the Republic will be dead.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 25, 2024 03:50 PM (W/lyH)

200 If you consider it doom-posting to think it's possible to lose this election, you have a weird definition of doom-posting.
Posted by: Drunken Haruspex at October 25, 2024 03:48 PM (aj2jn)

If people get all their folks out to vote, get out there and be election observers, get out there and rally all their neighbors and friends to the cause...we will not lose.

So, if you're worried about losing, get your butt out the door and get started on the work...

Posted by: Nova Local at October 25, 2024 03:50 PM (exHjb)

201 I can feel a Trump win in my bones, or maybe it's arthritis
Posted by: Hatari

Has it lasted for more than four hours?

Posted by: t-bird at October 25, 2024 03:50 PM (I18Uj)

202 181 159 Posted by: Drunken Haruspex at October 25, 2024 03:38 PM (aj2jn)

I just LUV these words of encouragement. Drink some more and stop posting on here about this, please. I'm going to vote and encourage everyone I know to do the same-for Trump and a R ticket down the line.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 25, 2024 03:42 PM (MQJVv)

Amen! And keep finding the paid operatives looking to depress the R vote. They are easy to find here and call out.

For now, all of us need to vote, vote, vote, vote, vote - red up and down the ticket!
Posted by: Nova Local at October 25, 2024 03:47 PM (exHjb)

I've been posting here under a variety of nics for years.

I already voted. Nothing in my post could even be remotely be construed as encouragement not to vote.

Some of you are getting as unhinged as the left.

Posted by: Drunken Haruspex at October 25, 2024 03:50 PM (aj2jn)

203 i'm sure it's a sign of something, but when i drove through baker, california (a pit stop between la and las vegas), the alien jerky place was hawking MAGA-brand nuts on their big animated sign.

Posted by: anachronda at October 25, 2024 03:50 PM (edU/H)

204 The Post Millennial @TPostMillennial Oct 24
Kamala Harris: “As for last night, yet again, Trump not showing up. Refused to be part of a CNN debate. Clearly his staff has been saying he’s exhausted and the sad part about that is he’s trying to be President of the United States."

Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 03:51 PM (Zz0t1)

205 If you consider it doom-posting to think it's possible to lose this election, you have a weird definition of doom-posting.
Posted by: Drunken Haruspex at October 25, 2024 03:48 PM (aj2jn)

It is doom posting to say (and I quote you): “ The counting won't stop until the result is right.”

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 25, 2024 03:51 PM (i5Vkf)

206 Amen! And keep finding the paid operatives looking to depress the R vote. They are easy to find here and call out.

Speaking as a lifelong Republican, I resent the implication that I am being paid $8.33 by a Left-wing PAC to post depressive messages on conservative blogs to depress turnout, plus a bonus if any of my messages go viral.

It's not my fault if Trump has no chance of winning!

Posted by: Lifelong Republican! at October 25, 2024 03:51 PM (uxCna)

207 Trump wins popular vote by 3

Flips Nevada

You heard it here first

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at October 25, 2024 03:51 PM (SA7v3)

208 If you consider it doom-posting to think it's possible to lose this election, you have a weird definition of doom-posting.
Posted by: Drunken Haruspex
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I don't think the mail in ballots are there to support the big cheat unlike 2020 where Trump was polling about 4-6 pts down. You also did not see the Biden team riven with internal bickering leaking out into the press like you do with Kamala.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2024 03:51 PM (ctrM5)

209 Let's see....last ad buy is just about done....so expect 60 Minutes to release the full Harris interview any day now.

Posted by: Orson at October 25, 2024 03:51 PM (dIske)

210 I still think this is a preparation for the steal. They will explain it that the tie in the polls motivated Dems to go and vote in greater numbers than ever. They will say it has nothing to do with the candidate and everything to do with motivation for their side.

Posted by: Decaf at October 25, 2024 03:51 PM (unUNN)

211 I can't wait for the trannys to start playing womens professional basketball and soccer.

To give them a chance, just cap the age of trannies at 15.

Posted by: t-bird at October 25, 2024 03:51 PM (yb6pe)

212 207 Trump wins popular vote by 3

Flips Nevada

You heard it here first
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at October 25, 2024 03:51 PM (SA7v3)

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If Trump wins the PV by 3, NV is beyond unimportant. He wins VA, NH, and maybe even MN before NV is even closed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 03:52 PM (GBKbO)

213 154 Speaking as a lifelong Republican, even I was raped by Donald Trump during the 1990s.
Posted by: Lifelong Republican! at October 25, 2024 03:41 PM (uxCna)

Oh yeah? Well, I was fart raped by Kamala in the 3rd stall of the 1st floor restroom in Bloomingdales, in 1978. Never forget it as it is seared into my sinuses.

Posted by: Lifelong voter of some sort at October 25, 2024 03:52 PM (VGRuw)

214 When we voted, the workers scanned ID & then printed out ballot on the spot after each. No doubt in my mind that the votes are tied to the voters. (Idaho)

They did the same here in NoVa.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 25, 2024 03:52 PM (xCA6C)

215 FAO Schwartz is selling "exclusively" through Target. They sent a catalog with no prices listed on toys.

The Amazon catalogs I get don't have prices either, though Amazon's prices fluctuate more.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at October 25, 2024 03:52 PM (1Idb6)

216 You know who else wore a sombrero?

Posted by: wth at October 25, 2024 03:52 PM (v0R5T)

217 205 If you consider it doom-posting to think it's possible to lose this election, you have a weird definition of doom-posting.
Posted by: Drunken Haruspex at October 25, 2024 03:48 PM (aj2jn)

It is doom posting to say (and I quote you): “ The counting won't stop until the result is right.”
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 25, 2024 03:51 PM (i5Vkf)

Sure, if you dishonestly edit out the part where I say that's so if the polls are accurate, but not if they are mistaken.

Posted by: Drunken Haruspex at October 25, 2024 03:53 PM (aj2jn)

218 It's not my fault if Trump has no chance of winning!

DOOMED! WE'RE ALL DOOMED! WE'VE ALREADY LOST!

"Ka-Ching!"

Tee, hee, hee!

Posted by: Lifelong Republican! at October 25, 2024 03:53 PM (uxCna)

219 190 Ted Lieu@tedlieu
The first step towards fascism is when the free press cowers in fear.

Don't give away our recipe, you dunce!
Posted by: Barack Obama at October 25, 2024 03:48 PM (3l0s/)

After nearly a decade of running down Trump at every turn, suddenly the media is very afraid of him.

If only there was a reason to be.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 25, 2024 03:53 PM (KbCG3)

220 If Trump wins the PV by 3

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Is that Puerto Rico? Did Kamala already install it as a state for electoral college purposes? Sneaky

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 25, 2024 03:53 PM (sX1BW)

221 216 You know who else wore a sombrero?
Posted by: wth at October 25, 2024 03:52 PM (v0R5T)

Hitler ?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 25, 2024 03:53 PM (IyPmt)

222 But, something seems off about the 2012 election because Karl Rove on screen had a meltdown over a call and Romney's team seemed surprised as well due to multiple polling failures in seeming red states like Florida.

Posted by: whig

2012 was the year they started introducing 1,000-1,500 fake registrations into many counties and precinct voter rolls in order to generate extra democrat votes.

2008 was the year they started smurfing, by collecting data on consumers, then laundering illegal donations in small increments in the names of the people whose data they stole.

One candidate figures into both of those elections.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 25, 2024 03:53 PM (lTGtQ)

223 208 If you consider it doom-posting to think it's possible to lose this election, you have a weird definition of doom-posting.
Posted by: Drunken Haruspex
======
I don't think the mail in ballots are there to support the big cheat unlike 2020 where Trump was polling about 4-6 pts down. You also did not see the Biden team riven with internal bickering leaking out into the press like you do with Kamala.
Posted by: whig at October 25, 2024 03:51 PM (ctrM5)

=======

Yeah, that needs to be remembered.

The rules were relaxed and broken for months to let millions (maybe tens of millions) of ballots out in the wild. By this time in 2020, millions more ballots had been returned than now.

The preliminary work at the cheat is simply not being done right now. Millions of votes behind.

The last second ballot box stuffing would be ridiculous at this point, and 2020 was already pretty damn ridiculous.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 03:53 PM (GBKbO)

224 Just read an article at cnbc about WAPO non endorsement.

Wow. I thought it was written by Harris herself.

I hope Bezos decides to sell and Musk buys it.

Posted by: It's happening at October 25, 2024 03:53 PM (hvsSs)

225 222 2012 was the year they started introducing 1,000-1,500 fake registrations into many counties and precinct voter rolls in order to generate extra democrat votes.

2008 was the year they started smurfing, by collecting data on consumers, then laundering illegal donations in small increments in the names of the people whose data they stole.

One candidate figures into both of those elections.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 25, 2024 03:53 PM (lTGtQ)

=======

They brought Chicago to DC.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 03:54 PM (GBKbO)

226 Tied my ass.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 25, 2024 03:54 PM (i24o9)

227 You know who else wore a sombrero?

Speedy Gonzales? He's voting for Trump.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 25, 2024 03:54 PM (MQJVv)

228 You know who else was known by just a first name?

Posted by: Kamala at October 25, 2024 03:54 PM (hmOfI)

229 Speaking as a lifelong Republican ...

--------------

Say what you will, but very few people will admit to being a lifelong democrat.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 25, 2024 03:54 PM (sX1BW)

230 221 216 You know who else wore a sombrero?
Posted by: wth at October 25, 2024 03:52 PM (v0R5T)

Hitler ?
Posted by: It's me donna at October 25, 2024 03:53 PM (IyPm

Worse. Hitler-o.

Posted by: Drunken Haruspex at October 25, 2024 03:55 PM (aj2jn)

231 So we're supposed to believe Manhattan Media?

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 25, 2024 03:55 PM (AdHga)

232 If they don't steal AZ, I for one look forward to Senator Kari Lake -- although I'd rather have her as Governator.

Posted by: ShainS -- Musk May be The X-Factor in Overcoming Fraud at October 25, 2024 03:55 PM (CynHh)

233
We at the Washington Post and Los Angeles Times think that Donald Trump is worse than Hitler. However we are not endorsing Kamala Harris for President over Hitler.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 25, 2024 03:55 PM (EsZUh)

234 So Harris is losing some of the Dem's traditional youth vote, and black vote, and hispanic vote, and union worker vote and...its tied? Really? We are supposed to believe that?

Is Harris doing better with men? Christians? Small business owners? Cops? Who the hell is she doing better with to leave it tied?

Posted by: 18-1 at October 25, 2024 03:55 PM (oZhjI)

235 You gotta admire the tenacity of the left. When they chose to destroy America they didn’t half-ass it.

Posted by: Eromero at October 25, 2024 03:55 PM (jgmnb)

236 Worse. Hitler-o.

Hitler-O's were even worse than Kaboom!.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at October 25, 2024 03:55 PM (1Idb6)

237 216 You know who else wore a sombrero?
Posted by: wth

Mexican Bandits circa 1912?

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at October 25, 2024 03:56 PM (sAmhv)

238 It's not dusty in my office. I am actually weeping.
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Me too.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 25, 2024 03:56 PM (hovnC)

239 Margo Martin @margommartin 4h
A day in the life on the campaign trail with President @realDonaldTrump 🇺🇸

https://is.gd/UT6Vcm
1:14 minutes; very well-made video
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 25, 2024 03:46 PM (hovnC)

He is utterly tireless. It's amazing. And embarrassing when I realize I'd be hard-pressed to keep up with him and I'm 20 years younger than he is.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at October 25, 2024 03:56 PM (k9OZB)

240 You know who else wore a sombrero?

Speedy Gonzales? He's voting for Trump.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 25, 2024 03:54 PM (MQJVv)

His cousin, Slowpoke Rodriguez, might not make it to the polls to vote on time.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 25, 2024 03:56 PM (VNX3d)

241 Is Harris doing better with men? Christians? Small business owners? Cops? Who the hell is she doing better with to leave it tied?

NO ONE MESSES WITH MY RIGHT TO ABORTION!

Posted by: 57-Year-Old Cat Lady! at October 25, 2024 03:56 PM (uxCna)

242 Is Harris doing better with men? Christians? Small business owners? Cops? Who the hell is she doing better with to leave it tied?

Necro-Americans.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 25, 2024 03:56 PM (xCA6C)

243 234 So Harris is losing some of the Dem's traditional youth vote, and black vote, and hispanic vote, and union worker vote and...its tied? Really? We are supposed to believe that?

Is Harris doing better with men? Christians? Small business owners? Cops? Who the hell is she doing better with to leave it tied?
Posted by: 18-1 at October 25, 2024 03:55 PM (oZhjI)

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The only one I've heard is college educated and old people.

The problem is that it's based on crosstabs that are almost always wrong (they're pretty wrong for whites in general), she's polling as good as Biden was, though it didn't actually materialize, with those groups, and you'd have to believe a 10 point swing for Kamala from Trump in 2020 at the height of covid.

Crosstab diving is so dumb. People should stop.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 03:56 PM (GBKbO)

244
Close enough to make the steal plausible.

Everybody keeps their old jobs with the addition of a Secretary of Peace Through Joy.

Posted by: Auspex at October 25, 2024 03:57 PM (j4U/Z)

245 I’m right here, you know. Next to the illegal immigrants.

Posted by: Mail In Ballots with Phony Address at October 25, 2024 03:57 PM (LjX+p)

246 ORCA 2.0 ready to roll out for 2024. Big improvement on ORCA 95 -- includes the Wingdings font.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 25, 2024 03:57 PM (73voq)

247 Ted Lulu on the WaPo betrayal.

Ted Lieu@tedlieu
The first step towards fascism is when the free press cowers in fear.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 25, 2024 03:40 PM (L/fGl)

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Liberace, a great American, and I'm sure he would have voted for Trump!

Posted by: ShainS -- Musk May be The X-Factor in Overcoming Fraud at October 25, 2024 03:57 PM (zTpWa)

248 "Kamala Harris and Tim Walz align strongly with our mission and values"

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Well, most of those WNBA players are gay and so is Tim Walz.

Posted by: Jay in PA at October 25, 2024 03:57 PM (i7Q7S)

249 I'm old enough to remember the 2012 election. The Dems were ACTING LIKE they feared they were going to lose, and the autopsy of that particular election is that they lulled Team Binders of Women into believing they had this in a cakewalk.

They did not. Bobama voters were scared and motivated. Rominy voters were arrogant and full of meh.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 25, 2024 03:57 PM (dGCAG)

250 Close enough to make the steal plausible.

That's what scares me...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 25, 2024 03:57 PM (IyPmt)

251
*pedantic correction*

Scott Rasmussen is now unaffiliated with Rasmussen Reports and hasn't been for something like a decade. He started another firm (whose name I cannot recall).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 03:49 PM

When I say Rasmussen I predominately am referring to Mark Mitchell, head pollster, who is employed by Rasmussen.

*pedantic correction* You should know this.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 25, 2024 03:58 PM (MwtZ5)

252 210 I still think this is a preparation for the steal. They will explain it that the tie in the polls motivated Dems to go and vote in greater numbers than ever. They will say it has nothing to do with the candidate and everything to do with motivation for their side.
Posted by: Decaf
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Not enough time in a lot of states. Basically the old Dem turnout machine relied on early voting to get out low propensity voters with a smattering of mail in ballots plus about 5 pct fraud or so from urban centers. It wasn't designed to turn out voters on Election Day.

Getting into the weeds, there is a potential that Trump is doing something the GOP has never really done until 2020 started it. Absent Trump, Ronna refused to try to do it for 2022 which is one of the way that the red wave was a mirage. The GOP traditionally has only tried to turn out base voters.

Turn out low propensity voters (males, not college educated, and alienated from the system along with younger Hispanic and black minorities that are not set in the racial grievance era).

That is why the polling was so wrong in 2020 and that the obvious last minute cheats occurred then using mail in ballots (not in person)

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2024 03:58 PM (ctrM5)

253 "Going OT, but I keep wondering how long it will be before Starlink releases their own satellite phone that works with their constellation."

The latest iPhone OS will let you go outside, point it at the sky and connect, or so they claim. I haven't tried it.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 25, 2024 03:58 PM (MeG8a)

254 Democracy dies when the f*cking supposed to be unbiased news media doesn't pick a f*cking side?

Blow me.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 03:58 PM (Zz0t1)

255 I think it's less about the number of ballots needed for the Democrats to cheat and more about where the actual decision on declaring a 'winner' is held.

I think the election results, if certified, will be contested by the losing side. It'll go to court. The eventual winner will be decided there. Not at the ballot box.

Given the state of our judicial system, including SCOTUS, I'm not overly optimistic, but we'll see how it shakes out.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 25, 2024 03:58 PM (Q4IgG)

256 >>The preliminary work at the cheat is simply not being done right now. Millions of votes behind.
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Particularly important to remember. It’s easy to think the Swamp can magically manufacture votes by the millions, but magic isn’t real. There has to be a mechanism. In 2020 it was swollen, illegitimate voter rolls and ballots sent out willy-nilly. That’s not quite the case today. There’s going to be a cheat but it has to arise elsewhere.

Posted by: electronic means at October 25, 2024 03:58 PM (VV/8N)

257 Speaking of Ras, the interns working there have the polls inverted, Kackula by 1 right now.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 25, 2024 03:58 PM (73voq)

258 Ted Lieu@tedlieu
The first step towards fascism is when the free press cowers in fear.

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This is how you know Trump is literally Hitler.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 25, 2024 03:58 PM (sX1BW)

259 Close enough to make the steal plausible.

Everybody keeps their old jobs with the addition of a Secretary of Peace Through Joy.

Posted by: Auspex at October 25, 2024 03:57 PM (j4U/Z)

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There will be a Secretary of Defense and Vibes ... but mostly Vibes.

Posted by: ShainS -- Musk May be The X-Factor in Overcoming Fraud at October 25, 2024 03:58 PM (zTpWa)

260 Scott Rasmussen is now unaffiliated with Rasmussen Reports and hasn't been for something like a decade. He started another firm (whose name I cannot recall).
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Scott Reports??? Reports Scott??

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 25, 2024 03:58 PM (hovnC)

261 At this point, substitute Jimmy Carter.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 25, 2024 03:59 PM (tmgMU)

262 250 Close enough to make the steal plausible.

That's what scares me...
Posted by: It's me donna at October 25, 2024 03:57 PM (IyPmt)
Not over. Just beginning.

Posted by: Eromero at October 25, 2024 03:59 PM (jgmnb)

263 FenelonSpoke at October 25, 2024 03:42 PM (MQJVv)

As it often happens, you write what I think.

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at October 25, 2024 03:59 PM (DBrq6)

264 Say what you will, but very few people will admit to being a lifelong democrat.

Posted by: SH

More likely a deathlong democrat.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 25, 2024 03:59 PM (lTGtQ)

265 "Kamala Harris and Tim Walz align strongly with our mission and values"

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Well, most of those WNBA players are gay and so is Tim Walz.
Posted by: Jay in PA at October 25, 2024 03:57 PM (i7Q7S)

Mission: Lost bazillions of dollars of other people's money.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 25, 2024 03:59 PM (dGCAG)

266 I def think they can steal this one

But I’m cautiously optimistic because so many good people have made it much harder to steal it this time, whether it was via lawfare, getting out the vote or otherwise supporting Trump financially and with their votes and prayers

Make it too big to rig

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at October 25, 2024 03:59 PM (SA7v3)

267 Democracy dies when the f*cking supposed to be unbiased news media doesn't pick a f*cking side?

Blow me.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 03:58 PM (Zz0t1)

Pretends not to pick a side

Posted by: Kamala at October 25, 2024 03:59 PM (hmOfI)

268 216 You know who else wore a sombrero?
Posted by: wth at October 25, 2024 03:52 PM (v0R5T)

Hitler ?
Posted by: It's me donna
......

Yep, when he vacationed in Cancun.

Posted by: wth at October 25, 2024 03:59 PM (v0R5T)

269 Secretary of KdF

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 25, 2024 03:59 PM (tmgMU)

270 Just saw something weird.
Driving behind a minivan with British Columbia plates. In the window was one of those white oval things with the two letter designation for a country.
It read SU.
SU??? So I creep up a bit and next to it was a sickle and hammer.
Hmmm!
Light turned green.
I flipped the commie off.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 25, 2024 03:59 PM (W/lyH)

271 >> Turn out low propensity voters (males, not college educated, and alienated from the system along with younger Hispanic and black minorities that are not set in the racial grievance era).
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This low-propensity group will be crucial.

Posted by: electronic means at October 25, 2024 03:59 PM (VV/8N)

272 Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 25, 2024 03:56 PM (VNX3d)

That's o.k. Slowpoke is a Kamala voter.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 25, 2024 04:00 PM (MQJVv)

273 As Ace suggested, I wouldn't go counting any chickens. All of the polls don't add up to 100. which means there are about 3-5% who are undecided (how tf are you undecided at this point?). Whichever way these folks break will decide the election. I would say a historically bad economy breaks against the incumbent, but that didn't happen in 2012 or 2020.

Oh and I'm a pessimist, so it's worth it to caution against "unskewing the polls" and adding a few percentage points to Trump's total to make up for past polling errors that tend to happen around Trump. But (supposedly) polling firms have corrected for that this time by oversampling groups he does well with. We'll see.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at October 25, 2024 04:00 PM (w6p9p)

274 Ted Lulu on the WaPo betrayal.

Ted Lieu@tedlieu
The first step towards fascism is when the free press cowers in fear.

===

The day when Pravda decided not to endorse Brezhnev will live in infamy !

Posted by: runner at October 25, 2024 04:00 PM (V13WU)

275 I pulled into a random roadside motel on the supermarket of the moment and found out I had a very soft tire. Some man from the motel pulled out a compressor and helped me out.
So I will say Thank you Lord.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at October 25, 2024 04:01 PM (LpSeU)

276 Ted Lieu@tedlieu
The first step towards fascism is when the free press cowers in fear.

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The first step towards fascism is importing MILLIONS of illegal aliens to come in and allow them to vote, you steaming pile of dinosaur shit.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 04:01 PM (Zz0t1)

277
It read SU.
SU??? So I creep up a bit and next to it was a sickle and hammer.

________

SU was the WIPO code for the Soviet Union. Now it's RU.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 25, 2024 04:01 PM (EsZUh)

278 I really, really want Trump to win the popular vote, not just for the obvious reason, but also because it'll inevitably torpedo the NPV compact. The instant California Democrats consider the possibility that their EC votes might go to a Republican--any Republican--they'll drop the idea like it's a hot potato that was directly pulled from the center of the Sun.

Posted by: Rick C at October 25, 2024 04:01 PM (pnaK4)

279 Vote like the wind!

All the cool kids are doing it.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 25, 2024 04:01 PM (LkLld)

280 226 Tied my ass.
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$20 same as in town.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 25, 2024 04:01 PM (hovnC)

281 I don't owe it to you to only post things you agree with.
Posted by: Drunken Haruspex at October 25, 2024 03:46 PM (aj2jn)

Very insightful. LOL

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 25, 2024 04:02 PM (MQJVv)

282 But (supposedly) polling firms have corrected for that this time by oversampling groups he does well with. We'll see.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at October 25, 2024 04:00 PM (w6p9p)

Since when though? They had him down by 4 and 5 points at times. That means he was down by 8 or 9? No way.

Posted by: ... at October 25, 2024 04:02 PM (hmOfI)

283 278 I really, really want Trump to win the popular vote, not just for the obvious reason, but also because it'll inevitably torpedo the NPV compact. The instant California Democrats consider the possibility that their EC votes might go to a Republican--any Republican--they'll drop the idea like it's a hot potato that was directly pulled from the center of the Sun.
Posted by: Rick C at October 25, 2024 04:01 PM (pnaK4)

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It'll torpedo nothing. They'll view it as a fluke and keep pushing.

The problem is that they're pretty much reached their limit. CO can accept it, but no one else will, and I'd actually see it more likely that one or two states removes themselves from it than any of the other, smaller, more Republican states join.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 04:02 PM (GBKbO)

284 CNBC is reporting that Bezos himself pulled the plug on the WaPo endorsement of Kamala.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 25, 2024 04:03 PM (MeG8a)

285 273 As Ace suggested, I wouldn't go counting any chickens.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at October 25, 2024 04:00 PM (w6p9p)

Style guide suggests "WLNSSEODQY"

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at October 25, 2024 04:03 PM (VGRuw)

286 Mark Mitchell seems like a decent guy, he’s been saying since day one that the race fundamentally has never changed and always been Trump +2 to +3

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at October 25, 2024 04:03 PM (SA7v3)

287 Crosstab diving is so dumb. People should stop.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Eh, depends on the sample size. Oversampling particular demographics is also a tactic that is used by people wanting to get the right results aka private polling.

The GOP has never really tried to turn out minorities by engaging them on their own turf ever until Trump. Instead, the GOP used mushy messaging and pandering like amnesty proposals to try to get Hispanics on board.

Whatever you can say about Trump is that he treats people as individuals and thus can go to a hostile audience like the Black Journalists, etc. and win some grudging respect. Trump's message is appealing to their own private interests (employment, no inflation, etc.) and the nation's interest instead of pandering. A certain percentage of younger POC are open to that.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2024 04:03 PM (ctrM5)

288 I pulled into a random roadside motel on the supermarket of the moment and found out I had a very soft tire. Some man from the motel pulled out a compressor and helped me out.

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Is this the plot to a horror film?

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 25, 2024 04:03 PM (sX1BW)

289 Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at October 25, 2024 03:59 PM (DBrq6)

Perhaps you shouldn't admit that here.

But thanks, and thanks for your work in the classroom. I am always interested to read about it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 25, 2024 04:03 PM (MQJVv)

290 It read SU.
SU??? So I creep up a bit and next to it was a sickle and hammer.

________

SU was the WIPO code for the Soviet Union. Now it's RU.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 25, 2024 04:01 PM (EsZUh)
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Anyone else besides me remember FC?

Posted by: bluebell at October 25, 2024 04:03 PM (79pEw)

291
CNBC is reporting that Bezos himself pulled the plug on the WaPo endorsement of Kamala.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 25, 2024 04:03 PM (MeG8a)

_________

Florida Man strikes!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 25, 2024 04:03 PM (EsZUh)

292 "Kamala Harris and Tim Walz align strongly with our mission and values"

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Well, most of those WNBA players are gay and so is Tim Walz.
Posted by: Jay in PA at October 25, 2024 03:57 PM (i7Q7S)
***

Can't wait for a bunch of 6'8" 260 lb dudes decide they are womenz and start playing there.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 25, 2024 04:03 PM (W/lyH)

293 224 Just read an article at cnbc about WAPO non endorsement.

Wow. I thought it was written by Harris herself.

Posted by: It's happening at October 25, 2024 03:53 PM (hvsSs)

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What did it say?

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 25, 2024 04:03 PM (jyAD3)

294 Driving behind a minivan with British Columbia plates. In the window was one of those white oval things with the two letter designation for a country.
It read SU.
SU??? So I creep up a bit and next to it was a sickle and hammer.
Hmmm!
Light turned green.
I flipped the commie off.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 25, 2024 03:59 PM (W/lyH)

SU? Suomi (Finland) maybe?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 25, 2024 04:04 PM (5sQrj)

295 The problem is that they're pretty much reached their limit. CO can accept it, but no one else will, and I'd actually see it more likely that one or two states removes themselves from it than any of the other, smaller, more Republican states join.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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The other problem with the Compact is that all compacts among states have to be approved by Congress in the first place as per the Constitution.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2024 04:04 PM (ctrM5)

296 Not over. Just beginning.
Posted by: Eromero

I think this one will take months. WWIII hasn't even started yet.

Posted by: t-bird at October 25, 2024 04:04 PM (yb6pe)

297 295 The problem is that they're pretty much reached their limit. CO can accept it, but no one else will, and I'd actually see it more likely that one or two states removes themselves from it than any of the other, smaller, more Republican states join.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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The other problem with the Compact is that all compacts among states have to be approved by Congress in the first place as per the Constitution.
Posted by: whig at October 25, 2024 04:04 PM (ctrM5)

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Yeah, that's the other thing. It's untested legally since it's effectively dead letter right now.

I doubt it'd pass any sort of constitutional muster.

But...Empire of Lies and a couple of new justices on SCOTUS...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 04:05 PM (GBKbO)

298 "Kamala Harris and Tim Walz align strongly with our mission and values"

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Well, most of those WNBA players are gay and so is Tim Walz.

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Losing money?

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 25, 2024 04:05 PM (sX1BW)

299 CNBC is reporting that Bezos himself pulled the plug on the WaPo endorsement of Kamala.

**********

I guess Bezos didn’t really like the idea of seeing 90% of his wealth seized via an unrealized capital gains tax

Welcome to the party, asshole

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at October 25, 2024 04:05 PM (SA7v3)

300
Can't wait for a bunch of 6'8" 260 lb dudes decide they are womenz and start playing there.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 25, 2024 04:03 PM (W/lyH)

A 16U Select (not sure what basketball calls their elite league) basketball team would soundly defeat the WNBA all-star team.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 04:05 PM (Zz0t1)

301 Rominy voters were arrogant and full of meh.
Posted by: BurtTC

In their defense, if you look up "meh" in the dictionary, there's a picture of Mitt.

Posted by: mikeski at October 25, 2024 04:05 PM (DgGvY)

302 >> Wow. I thought it was written by Harris herself.
———
It should be read aloud in Foster Brooks’s patois.

Posted by: electronic means at October 25, 2024 04:05 PM (VV/8N)

303 All right, somebodu 'splain what it all means based on 2020/22 fiasco:

"32.6 M have cast an early vote so far, 14.8M voting in person, 17.8M returned mail-in ballots..More than 64M mail-in ballots have been requested..almost 9M have come from 7 swing states which are seeing a surge in early Republican voters...in GA appx 2.3M ballots have been cast, NC early voting , more than 2.2M cast.."

Question, how many crow flew over the farmhouse ??

Kidding. Any thoughts about the data ?

Posted by: runner at October 25, 2024 04:06 PM (V13WU)

304 It read SU.
SU??? So I creep up a bit and next to it was a sickle and hammer.

________

SU was the WIPO code for the Soviet Union. Now it's RU.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 25, 2024 04:01 PM (EsZUh)
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Yeah. I remember SU. The little sickle and hammer sticker next to it was interesting too.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 25, 2024 04:06 PM (W/lyH)

305 >Some of you are getting as unhinged as the left.
Posted by: Drunken Haruspex at October 25, 2024 03:50 PM (aj2jn)

Plenty of groupthink and virtue signaling here too. Especially when Pastor Karen gets involved with her shit tests.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at October 25, 2024 04:06 PM (ruzO0)

306 278 I really, really want Trump to win the popular vote, not just for the obvious reason, but also because it'll inevitably torpedo the NPV compact.
Posted by: Rick C at October 25, 2024 04:01 PM (pnaK4)

I was going to say the same thing. A republican popular vote victory could lead to a electoral landslide of bliblical proportions, close to 100% of the EC vote. And when NY and CA see their votes being cast for the R, NPV is dead.

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at October 25, 2024 04:06 PM (VGRuw)

307 282 But (supposedly) polling firms have corrected for that this time by oversampling groups he does well with. We'll see.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston
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I doubt it. It is really expensive to oversample large enough demographics when the non college male contingent is POC and white males. Have to set up separate oversampling because the groups have different propensities to vote and to vote GOP if mobilized.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2024 04:06 PM (ctrM5)

308 Few are voting FOR Harris.

They are voting for MAGA Trump,
OR
Voting AGAINST "Trump who is Hitler, a Threat to our ~~Democracy~~ deep state".
Posted by: illiniwek

Posted by: wth at October 25, 2024 04:06 PM (v0R5T)

309 I don't owe it to you to only post things you agree with.
Posted by: Drunken Haruspex at October 25, 2024 03:46 PM (aj2jn)

Very insightful. LOL
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 25, 2024 04:02 PM (MQJVv)

Perhaps Xe would be taken more seriously here if Xe would revert to one of Xer former nics.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 25, 2024 04:06 PM (5sQrj)

310 Just saw something weird.
Driving behind a minivan with British Columbia plates. In the window was one of those white oval things with the two letter designation for a country.
It read SU.
SU??? So I creep up a bit and next to it was a sickle and hammer.
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Belarus; formerly part of the Soviet Union. The UN was officially notified of the change from SU to BY only in 2004.[citation needed] Coincides with ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 code.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 25, 2024 04:07 PM (hovnC)

311
CNBC is reporting that Bezos himself pulled the plug on the WaPo endorsement of Kamala.

I suspect he realizes he'll have to sell his girlfriends new silicon DD+ breasts to cover the cost of 'unrealized gains' while he experiences 'unsuspected losses' in the breast department.

Easy choice.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 25, 2024 04:07 PM (MwtZ5)

312
Perhaps Xe would be taken more seriously here if Xe would revert to one of Xer former nics.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 25, 2024 04:06 PM (5sQrj)

"I've been a Republican my ENTIRE LIFE and so has my family. But this time......"

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 04:08 PM (Zz0t1)

313 305 >Some of you are getting as unhinged as the left.
Posted by: Drunken Haruspex
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Objection--facts not in evidence. Just because you get pushback to your notions expressed is not being unhinged.

People that change their nics all the time don't really have a good track record here either because some of those are people that have been previously banned.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2024 04:08 PM (ctrM5)

314 I pulled into a random roadside motel on the supermarket of the moment and found out I had a very soft tire. Some man from the motel pulled out a compressor and helped me out.

---------------

Is this the plot to a horror film?
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 25, 2024 04:03 PM (sX1BW)

Zodiac vibes. did he look like Ted Cruz?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Balding American at October 25, 2024 04:08 PM (Ad8y9)

315 Nood Halloween Movies

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 25, 2024 04:09 PM (VNX3d)

316 Rominy voters were arrogant and full of meh.
Posted by: BurtTC

In their defense, if you look up "meh" in the dictionary, there's a picture of Mitt.
Posted by: mikeski at October 25, 2024 04:05 PM (DgGvY)

It's funny to look back on it now. After the convention, there was lots of enthusiasm, and then the first debate, he kicked arse.

After that though, if we apply 2024 knowledge to what happened in 2012, it's like some people with bags of money, and lots of influence told him to take a dive.

And so he did.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 25, 2024 04:09 PM (dGCAG)

317 Kalamama may be stupid, but she's smart enough to not tell D's what she'll do as president. If she did she would be polling 0.

Posted by: wth at October 25, 2024 04:10 PM (v0R5T)

318 Huh, look up the meaning of 'Haruspex'. Good choice. An interesting profession, especially when we're talking about polling and laying odds on a crooked election system.

Posted by: t-bird at October 25, 2024 04:10 PM (yb6pe)

319 Style guide suggests "WLNSSEODQY"
Posted by: Bacon Jeff at October 25, 2024 04:03 PM (VGRuw)
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I've been here a long time, but I have no friggin' clue how to decipher this one.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Balding American at October 25, 2024 04:11 PM (Ad8y9)

320 I pulled into a random roadside motel on the supermarket of the moment and found out I had a very soft tire. Some man from the motel pulled out a compressor and helped me out.
So I will say Thank you Lord.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at October 25, 2024 04:01 PM (LpSeU)

Get thee to a tire shop, NL. You may have picked up a nail in that tire, and have a somewhat faster than "slow" leak. A flat repair now may save you the cost of a tire later.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 25, 2024 04:11 PM (5sQrj)

321 Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at October 25, 2024 04:06 PM (ruzO0)

I see the insult factory is operating again today. It's great than it's still operating on a Friday afternoon. LOL

I've never actually tested ****. I believe labs do that.

Have a nice weekend. Adios

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 25, 2024 04:12 PM (MQJVv)

322 78% of the country think it is headed in the wrong direction. I have seen more videos by black men and women announcing they are voting for Trump. I don't believe there are many shy Trump voters.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 25, 2024 04:12 PM (gfViB)

323 I don't know if this has been reported, but Rogan did invite the whore for a podcast and was refused.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 25, 2024 04:12 PM (lTGtQ)

324 LAST!

Now I'll never know what WLNSSEODQY means.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Balding American at October 25, 2024 04:12 PM (Ad8y9)

325 Bezos and his fiancé bought some real estate in Miami.

Posted by: runner at October 25, 2024 04:12 PM (V13WU)

326 112 IF...and I say IF...half the people voting actually are pulling the lever for Harris, this country has problems no election will solve.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo
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If Trump wins, prosperity will improve for the vast majority of the entire population. If Kamala wins, misery will be shared by the vast majority. What do Kamala voters think will happen that will improve their lives if she wins? Some amorphous 'democracy' will be safe from 'something Trump will do'? Abortions for everyone? What exactly?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 25, 2024 04:12 PM (fs1hN)

327 313 305 >Some of you are getting as unhinged as the left.
Posted by: Drunken Haruspex
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Objection--facts not in evidence. Just because you get pushback to your notions expressed is not being unhinged.

People that change their nics all the time don't really have a good track record here either because some of those are people that have been previously banned.
Posted by: whig at October 25, 2024 04:08 PM (ctrM

The idea that everyone who posts something the site's most fragile commenters can't stomach makes them a paid operative or a troll is absurd on its face. Complaints by other posters to stop saying something not because they factually dispute it but because it makes them sad or upsets them are ridiculous on their face.

Posted by: Drunken Haruspex at October 25, 2024 04:13 PM (aj2jn)

328
I think this one will take months. WWIII hasn't even started yet.

Posted by: t-bird at October 25, 2024 04:04 PM

Alex Jones has talked with some 'Top People' in that arena of expertise and been assured that WWIII will only last 70 some minutes.

Why worry? Be happy! Put on an hour show and ignore the fireworks. Then take a protracted shit. It's over.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 25, 2024 04:13 PM (MwtZ5)

329 More that three quarters of this country say it is going in the wrong direction. Do you think people are standing in line to vote for more of it?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 25, 2024 04:13 PM (lTGtQ)

330 Credible accuser on CNN today says “Trump stole a Time Machine from Area 51, kidnapped me and took me back in time. Then he forced my dad to impregnate me and now I’m my own mother. I’m still devastated.”

Posted by: electronic means at October 25, 2024 04:14 PM (VV/8N)

331 Well Lets Not Start Sucking Each Others Donuts Quite Yet

Posted by: JackStraw at October 25, 2024 04:15 PM (LkLld)

332 The idea that everyone who posts something the site's most fragile commenters can't stomach makes them a paid operative or a troll is absurd on its face. Complaints by other posters to stop saying something not because they factually dispute it but because it makes them sad or upsets them are ridiculous on their face.
Posted by: Drunken Haruspex
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Someone made an opinion call that you were a doomer. You appear defensive about it but no one called for the Banhammer.

Posted by: whig at October 25, 2024 04:20 PM (ctrM5)

333 Is Harris doing better with men? Christians? Small business owners? Cops? Who the hell is she doing better with to leave it tied?

NO ONE MESSES WITH MY RIGHT TO ABORTION!

Posted by: 57-Year-Old Cat Lady!

^^^^THAT^^^^

Posted by: BifBewalski at October 25, 2024 04:20 PM (MsrgL)

334 When asked why I supported a felon for lotus, my response was that the DNC policies supporting socialism would bring mandatory death at retirement if left unchecked.

Posted by: BifBewalski at October 25, 2024 04:22 PM (MsrgL)

335 lotus????

Fucck. The. Fuck. Off. Autocucomber.

POTUS motherfucker.

Posted by: BifBewalski at October 25, 2024 04:23 PM (MsrgL)

336
When the dumb shits, too dumb to avoid WWIII, come out of their underground shelters two years after it is over and expect a rally - rivaling a Trump rally in attendance - and instead have their guts spilled open from a fuselage of bullets?

I think I have about a 5% chance of witnessing that. But I think there's about a 100% chance of that happening.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 25, 2024 04:26 PM (MwtZ5)

337 Indian? I thought she was just a heavy smoker.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 25, 2024 04:27 PM (J8LnB)

338 Why worry? Be happy! Put on an hour show and ignore the fireworks. Then take a protracted shit. It's over.
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Does a protracted shit require a protractor? Sounds like maff.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 25, 2024 04:28 PM (AdHga)

339 Fen, did you ever try a Maple Frosted Donut?

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 25, 2024 04:30 PM (AdHga)

340 336 When the dumb shits, too dumb to avoid WWIII, come out of their underground shelters two years after it is over and expect a rally - rivaling a Trump rally in attendance - and instead have their guts spilled open from a fuselage of bullets?

this is about the a-10, isn't it?

Posted by: anachronda at October 25, 2024 04:31 PM (edU/H)

341
Due to 'contact high' I slightly remember 'Protracted Shit' opened for another band at the Spectrum in Philly. I do remember attendance was 17,777. It always was.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 25, 2024 04:35 PM (MwtZ5)

342 335 otus????

Fucck. The. Fuck. Off. Autocucomber.

POTUS motherfucker.

orange lotus > black lotus

Posted by: anachronda at October 25, 2024 04:35 PM (edU/H)

343 I'm voting tomorrow morning in the Pee-pull's Re-pube-lick of NJ.
First time I'm ever early voting.
For whatever it's worth.
Posted by: Iasonas at October 25, 2024 03:17 PM (gUzGB)

#Metoo.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at October 25, 2024 04:44 PM (iODuv)

344 Maybe you should pay attention to the hash and not the nick. That would be a bit of work though so I don't see it happening much.

Posted by: Run with it! Certified dangerous radical at October 25, 2024 04:46 PM (89Sog)

345 Every vote is necessary, if for no other reason than to put a halt to the NPV movement. Harris cannot be allowed to win the popular vote.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at October 25, 2024 08:12 PM (bufu1)

346 Tied my ass.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder,

You must have the wrong room.

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