The US Leaked Israel's Plans for Its Upcoming Retaliatory Strike Against Iran to the World (Including Iran) to Stop Them

Can't wait for Trump to investigate this and prosecute these spies.

Assuming the leak wasn't ordered by Biden himself. Which it probably was. (Or ordered by the coterie of Obama staffers who really run the country.)

The Biden-Harris administration is investigating a "deadly serious breach" of classified U.S. intelligence detailing Israeli plans for a strike on Iran, the latest in a series of targeted leaks against Israel that has put America's closest Middle East ally on edge, according to current and former U.S. officials.
The explosive weekend release included top-secret Pentagon documents purporting to show Israel's preparations for a large-scale counterstrike on Iran. The two documents--compiled by the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency and National Security Agency over the past several weeks--expose how Israel is preparing for the attack, including the types of aircraft and munitions that are expected to be used. They were published by the Middle East Spectator, a little-known outlet that is known to disseminate propaganda from Tehran.
While the documents, according to CNN, include markings that indicate they were meant to be shared with the "Five Eyes" intelligence network--made up of the United States, United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada--a former U.S. intelligence community official who reviewed them said there is no question they emanated from the U.S. side. The documents, the former official said, appear to have been posted on a U.S. classified system that can be accessed by "thousands upon thousands" of American officials from across the government."
"They all can literally log onto a classified computer and pull up the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency's website and look at whatever is made available to them," the former official said. "Why would you allow any intelligence like this, whether it's compartmentalized or not, why would you ever allow that to be generally available?"
While the documents do not detail which sites Israel is likely to attack inside Iran, they are the latest in a string of leaks that have raised questions about the Biden-Harris administration's ability to safeguard information at the highest levels of government. For Michael Rubin, a former Pentagon adviser, that trend is likely to erode Israel's trust in the United States.
"The damage wrought by this leak has less to do with tipping Iran off about or tactical insight into an impending Israeli strike than with broader bilateral trust," Rubin said. "This is not the first time a U.S. administration has leaked top secret details meant to sidetrack Israeli efforts to undermine Iran's nuclear program."
In the end, Rubin said, "it's not Israel that will ultimately pay the price; it's the United States. The U.S. intelligence community can gain more from Israel than vice versa. By signaling Israel can't trust Washington, the United States will essentially be operating blind, learning about Israel actions from the media after the fact, just like the rest of the world. In a region where minutes can make the difference between life and death, this is a truly high price to bear."
One senior Biden-Harris administration official, who was not authorized to speak on record about the situation, described the leak as a "deadly serious breach."
"For at least the past year there has been a concerted campaign to leak what at least seems to be classified information by anti-Israel elements in large part to impact media narratives--but, if true, this obviously goes beyond that," the official said.
...
The Middle East Spectator said in a statement that the documents were originally posted inside a Telegram channel, where the leaker is likely an active participant. The outlet said it is "not aware" of any additional classified leaks. It also identified the leaker as potentially an employee with the State Department, which would have access to top-secret assessments.
The State Department did not respond to a request for comment on the matter.

Yes, why should the Masters answer the questions of the Slaves?

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 02:34 PM

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1 We are ruled by evil people.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 21, 2024 02:34 PM (N1DT3)

2 I know it isn't "technically" treason, but it's treason.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 21, 2024 02:35 PM (ExV1e)

3 The documents, the former official said, appear to have been posted on a U.S. classified system that can be accessed by "thousands upon thousands" of American officials from across the government."

That was done on purpose to help shield the leakers who were doing it under orders.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 21, 2024 02:36 PM (N1DT3)

4 What if they were fake plans and it was a mole hunt?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 21, 2024 02:36 PM (GBKbO)

5 The policy of the Obama/Biden/Harris regime is to staff the Iran positions in the foreign policy bureaucracy with pro-Iranian government people.

Of course they leaked.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 21, 2024 02:37 PM (uxCna)

6 If I'm Israel, I would always be using the US as a pawn with the left in power.

In this case, I'm assuming what was leaked was 100% not what they planned...but it looks like it could be.

Posted by: Nova Local at October 21, 2024 02:37 PM (exHjb)

7 >>>3 The documents, the former official said, appear to have been posted on a U.S. classified system that can be accessed by "thousands upon thousands" of American officials from across the government."
That was done on purpose to help shield the leakers who were doing it under orders.

yes, exactly.

Posted by: ace at October 21, 2024 02:37 PM (KRtlO)

8 Willowed;

232 Biden is 'deeply concerned' about the leak of Israel plans to attack Iran.

Two questions. Why did Israel give its plans to the idiots in the US?

How big of a lie is the Biden administration telling here?

This is how you straddle the fence with the Muslims and Jews. Sabotaging Israel so they don't attack Iran then acting clueless.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 21, 2024 02:37 PM (aPY1X)

9 The treasonous scum who are leaking are likely going to be guilty of conspiracy to commit murder -- as they're likely to get undercover spies outed & killed.

F. Joe Mugabe's America ... stolen elections have consequences.

Posted by: ShainS -- Musk May be The X-Factor in Overcoming Fraud at October 21, 2024 02:37 PM (nChff)

10 HAVANA, Oct 20 (Reuters) - Cuba's electrical grid collapsed again on Sunday, the fourth such failure in 48 hours, raising fresh doubts about a quick fix on an island already suffering from severe shortages of food, fuel and medicine.
The blackout, after weeks of rolling outages, sparked some small protests around the Caribbean island, where a tropical storm threatened to hamper efforts to restore power.

I guess the Green New Deal isn't working out too well for them.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 21, 2024 02:38 PM (uxCna)

11 What if they were fake plans and it was a mole hunt?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 21, 2024 02:36 PM (GBKbO)

Actually laughing out loud.

Yes, THIS government is working on hunting Iranian moles. That's TOTALLY plausible.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 21, 2024 02:38 PM (N1DT3)

12 Was this General Miley?

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 21, 2024 02:38 PM (AdHga)

13 You know, there is a way to trace this.

And, death by hanging is still legal.

They could punish this and provide deterrence if they wanted to.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 21, 2024 02:38 PM (lTGtQ)

14 The truth of the matter is, this likely will continue under Trump. Not because of Trump, of course.

Then, the media, which is cheerleading this will begin crying about how treasonous it is.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 21, 2024 02:38 PM (KbCG3)

15 Why in the hell would Israel let us in on their plans to begin with?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 21, 2024 02:38 PM (v6JzV)

16 How can the press say Trump's photo op is too much in the year that brought us Desperately Seeking Doritos?

Posted by: Axeman at October 21, 2024 02:39 PM (krQz2)

17 The intelligence agencies under Trump leaked regularly, someone at SCOTUS has leaked at least twice. I don't recall anyone being punished for these leaks.
Leaks are now just one more political tool of Democrats. They will continue, and get worse, until people begin being seriously punished for them.

Posted by: 29Victor at October 21, 2024 02:39 PM (TL7UX)

18 Two questions. Why did Israel give its plans to the idiots in the US?

Apparently Israel has not been giving us specific targeting information.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 21, 2024 02:39 PM (uxCna)

19 While the documents do not detail which sites Israel is likely to attack inside Iran, they are the latest in a string of leaks that have ~~raised questions about~~ obliterated the Biden-Harris administration's ability to safeguard information at the highest levels of government.

FIFY

For Michael Rubin, a former Pentagon adviser, that trend is likely to erode Israel's trust in the United States.

For some values of erode. See also, the Zanclean Flood.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 21, 2024 02:39 PM (xCA6C)

20 wasn't there some well known journalist who said c 2004 that if he learned about an impending attack on u.s. troops from iraqi 'fighters' that it would be unprofessional for him to tell the americans about it? sorry for the sloppy wording, if at all

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 21, 2024 02:39 PM (CWTWj)

21 If Trump had agreed to receive intel briefings, they’d blame the leak on him. Good move on his part to refuse the briefings.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 21, 2024 02:39 PM (u73oe)

22 When you allow an election to be stolen, those actually in charge don't even have to tell the 'president' what they are doing.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 21, 2024 02:40 PM (lTGtQ)

23 20 wasn't there some well known journalist who said c 2004 that if he learned about an impending attack on u.s. troops from iraqi 'fighters' that it would be unprofessional for him to tell the americans about it? sorry for the sloppy wording, if at all
Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 21, 2024 02:39 PM (CWTWj)

Psst. That was a fucking General.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 21, 2024 02:40 PM (aPY1X)

24 Being that they kept the US in the dark on the pager/walkie op it is possible these are not the actual plans.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 21, 2024 02:40 PM (CIS44)

25 wasn't there some well known journalist who said c 2004 that if he learned about an impending attack on u.s. troops from iraqi 'fighters' that it would be unprofessional for him to tell the americans about it? sorry for the sloppy wording, if at all
Posted by: gnats local 678

I think you're thinking of Mike Wallace talking about the Vietnam War.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 21, 2024 02:41 PM (v6JzV)

26 If Trump had agreed to receive intel briefings, they’d blame the leak on him. Good move on his part to refuse the briefings.

He is a canny one.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 21, 2024 02:41 PM (xCA6C)

27 For any who missed it . . .

Visegrád 24@visegrad24
BREAKING:
Al Qaeda calls on Hamas to release the Israeli hostages.
The announcement was made yesterday by Abu Walid al-Masri, a senior advisor and father-in-law of Saif al-Adel, the leader of Al-Qaeda.

-
Biden can't let that happen!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 21, 2024 02:41 PM (L/fGl)

28 It's not like they didn't know this was going to happen.

This is from April

>>Sparks flew during a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing last week when Assistant Secretary of Defense Christopher Maier told lawmakers that Ariane Tabatabai remained at work in an office overseeing special operations and irregular warfare despite concerns from lawmakers that she has operated at the behest of the Iranian regime.

https://tinyurl.com/yc4npjd2

This was after Biden's Iran envoy Robert Malley was suspended without pay in 2023 for mishandling classified information. In other words for giving classified information to Iran.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 21, 2024 02:41 PM (LkLld)

29 Willowed:

Picked up our Trump yard signs, and donated $20 for the special ones the county made. Had to put down my name. Wife wanted some more swag, and was going to give them another ten bucks, but then the woman there said she would have to do it in her name, because $20 limit.

I said it was too bad we weren't Democrats, and ignore this paperwork.

Had a good conversation with her. She despises the RINOs, believes the Dems are actually evil.

I recommended the AoSHQ and showed her ace's first post today, and the one before this one.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 21, 2024 02:41 PM (ufFY8)

30 Why in the hell would Israel let us in on their plans to begin with?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

The early warning systems are designed to track anomalies in multi unit air traffic.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 21, 2024 02:42 PM (lTGtQ)

31 Gee, was is the Pali who’s Bidens top National Security adviser for the ME, or maybe Kamala’s long time aide who’s Palestinian? Or Rashida Tlaib? Or….,

Posted by: Lizzy at October 21, 2024 02:42 PM (Hkcdp)

32 24 Being that they kept the US in the dark on the pager/walkie op it is possible these are not the actual plans.
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 21, 2024 02:40 PM (CIS44)

I would laugh my ass off if Israel outed the leaker nationally.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 21, 2024 02:42 PM (aPY1X)

33 Yes yes, let’s accelerate the Samson option. Let’s draw Iran into a war that will require US boots on the ground.

Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at October 21, 2024 02:42 PM (yhJ3f)

34 I doubt Israel is trusting the US with its actual plans. Just floating balloons to see the drift and observing who is releasing what.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at October 21, 2024 02:42 PM (wBaIH)

35 15 Why in the hell would Israel let us in on their plans to begin with?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 21, 2024 02:38 PM (v6JzV)

NSA intercepts. We are spying on our supposed Ally.

Then leaking their plans. I've said for a few years now that my greatest fear was the we would piss Israel off so much, that they would go hunting other allies out of a need for survival.

Israeli technology, mated with Russian natural resources and labor, would change the political landscape.

We are busy pissing off allies, at the same time we are forcing them to chose sides. This is not going well IMO.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 21, 2024 02:42 PM (QAkQ3)

36 The Iranians are in our State Department.

Posted by: garrett at October 21, 2024 02:42 PM (K5Wdc)

37 BTW, just to show how much Trump has learned, he refused to take the top-secret foreign policy briefings that were recently offered to him as a candidate.

No question that Trump would be blamed for the leak by the Biden/Harris Administration if he had gotten the briefings.

As a matter of fact, Larry Tribe still accused Trump of leaking the information, despite the fact that Trump never had the information.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 21, 2024 02:42 PM (uxCna)

38 ah young Mr Bates has moved up considerably on The List!

what a piece of dimbulb garbage

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 21, 2024 02:43 PM (s3qiR)

39 I would hope these are not the true plans, but something designed to burn Iran sh the US leak it to them.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 21, 2024 02:43 PM (Hkcdp)

40 Doctorate in foreign affairs? Who cares? Most phds are functional retards who are too lazy to actually work.

Posted by: Mishdog at October 21, 2024 02:43 PM (jUixk)

41 11 Actually laughing out loud.

Yes, THIS government is working on hunting Iranian moles. That's TOTALLY plausible.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 21, 2024 02:38 PM (N1DT3)

=======

No, not from the US government, but from the Israeli government.

Share fake plans.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 21, 2024 02:43 PM (GBKbO)

42 Julius and Ethel are chuckling in Hell.

Posted by: Sifty at October 21, 2024 02:43 PM (1GT/M)

43 That Michael Rubin said in part "In a region where minutes can make the difference between life and death, this is a truly high price to bear."

Whose life and death is he talking about? He was saying that this leaking leads to Israel no longer sharing info with the USA which will then be 'blind'.

Posted by: Ciampino - No Ispettore, tradittori tutti quanti allo SD at October 21, 2024 02:44 PM (qfLjt)

44
With Allies like Biden/Harris, who needs enemies?

Posted by: Frank Barone at October 21, 2024 02:45 PM (+oR7L)

45 Ariane Tabatabai remained at work in an office overseeing special operations and irregular warfare despite concerns from lawmakers that she has operated at the behest of the Iranian regime.

Tabatabai's father is a senior official in Iran's nuclear program.

One of the many things we need to do if we win is to investigate the precise process by which people like Tabatabai received top-secret security clearances.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 21, 2024 02:45 PM (uxCna)

46 I recommended the AoSHQ and showed her ace's first post today, and the one before this one.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 21, 2024 02:41 PM (ufFY

Ruh-roh! Pants on, everybody!

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 21, 2024 02:45 PM (LxER7)

47 Operation BearClaw!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 21, 2024 02:46 PM (aPY1X)

48 Used that shotgun like Tim Walz...

Wild Clips
@bestwildclips
Tattoo parlor rivalry in Turkey escalates to a shotgun raid

https://tinyurl.com/3n84trv8

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 21, 2024 02:46 PM (TGPs7)

49 No, not from the US government, but from the Israeli government.

Share fake plans.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 21, 2024 02:43 PM (GBKbO)

Ah, that makes more sense.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 21, 2024 02:46 PM (N1DT3)

50 wasn't there some well known journalist who said c 2004 that if he learned about an impending attack on u.s. troops from iraqi 'fighters' that it would be unprofessional for him to tell the americans about it? sorry for the sloppy wording, if at all
---
Seems I recall that was Mike Wallace who said that?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 21, 2024 02:46 PM (u2wrQ)

51 Why in the hell would Israel let us in on their plans to begin with?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 21, 2024 02:38 PM (v6JzV)

That's what I can't figure out. Alternatively, flood Washington with a whole series of bogus plans, to confuse Israel's enemies,, many of whom are in DC.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 21, 2024 02:46 PM (pWgGF)

52 46 I recommended the AoSHQ and showed her ace's first post today, and the one before this one.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 21, 2024 02:41 PM (ufFY

Ruh-roh! Pants on, everybody!

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 21, 2024 02:45 PM (LxER7)

I sold all my pant.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 21, 2024 02:46 PM (aPY1X)

53 Ruh-roh! Pants on, everybody!
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 21, 2024 02:45 PM (LxER7)

I dont think we want to trick her into thinking we wear pants.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 21, 2024 02:46 PM (CIS44)

54 If Israel, Iran and the Palestinians all get nuked off the planet, the fumblenuts in the Biden administration will claim "we've solved the Middle East problem"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 21, 2024 02:47 PM (a7PbZ)

55 I suspect that Israel is still sharing "plans", in some sense of the word, for access to US satellite reconnaissance data. That will continue until they get their own satellite of satellites into space, and don't need ours.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 21, 2024 02:47 PM (VNX3d)

56 IIRC, the USA under the Obozo administration leaked information that Israel had jets positioned in one of the Stans, can’t remember which one. I would be surprised if the Israelis were naive enough to share their attack plans with us. Now, they can act with complete secrecy and impunity since it’s proven we can’t be trusted. Spy vs Spy stuff.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at October 21, 2024 02:47 PM (tJ28a)

57 Do swim trunks count as pants for purposes of the Book Thread?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 21, 2024 02:47 PM (v6JzV)

58 Why aren't we investigating Israel's treatment of Palestinians in the West Bank? No Hamas or Hezbollah there but they don't mind stealing their homes and murdering them there.

And when Iran strikes back--Boom! We're in the middle of a war again. That may have been Netanyahu's plan all along, especially if it happens before the election.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 21, 2024 02:47 PM (JCZqz)

59 Who is Andrew Bates, and what kind of drugs do you have to be on to pretend that scumbag pedophile grifting shit-for-brains Joe Biden is now or ever was a foreign policy heavyweight?

Posted by: spindrift at October 21, 2024 02:47 PM (OguvZ)

60 That will continue until they get their own satellite of satellites into space, and don't need ours.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 21, 2024 02:47 PM (VNX3d)

*makes 'call me' gesture*

Posted by: Elon Musk at October 21, 2024 02:48 PM (ufFY8)

61 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 21, 2024 02:48 PM (Zz0t1)

62 wasn't there some well known journalist who said c 2004 that if he learned about an impending attack on u.s. troops from iraqi 'fighters' that it would be unprofessional for him to tell the americans about it? sorry for the sloppy wording, if at all
---
Seems I recall that was Mike Wallace who said that?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 21, 2024 02:46 PM (u2wrQ)

Yes, commie scum, but he said it in reference to Vietnam.

So if the Reds had wounded him, I'd have left him in the jungle to rot.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 21, 2024 02:48 PM (pWgGF)

63 Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly

I seem to recall that it was said the Israelis had jets in Azerbaijan.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 21, 2024 02:48 PM (v6JzV)

64 58 And when Iran strikes back--Boom! We're in the middle of a war again. That may have been Netanyahu's plan all along, especially if it happens before the election.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 21, 2024 02:47 PM (JCZqz)

======

Iran...already struck back.

It was, like, a week ago.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 21, 2024 02:49 PM (GBKbO)

65 Biden will send out Zombie Geraldo to draw a map in the sand.

Posted by: Sifty at October 21, 2024 02:49 PM (1GT/M)

66 Iran...already struck back.

It was, like, a week ago.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 21, 2024 02:49 PM (GBKbO)

shhhhhhhh

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 21, 2024 02:49 PM (CIS44)

67 Do swim trunks count as pants for purposes of the Book Thread?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 21, 2024 02:47 PM (v6JzV)

As long as it's not a banana hammock, or in certain cases, a gherkin pouch.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Balding American at October 21, 2024 02:49 PM (xPJvm)

68 >> Gee, was is the Pali who’s Bidens top National Security adviser for the ME, or maybe Kamala’s long time aide who’s Palestinian? Or Rashida Tlaib? Or….,

Maher Bitar. Previously worked for Obama and before that worked for the UNRWA. You know, the terrorists.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 21, 2024 02:50 PM (LkLld)

69 Biden will send out Zombie Geraldo to draw a map in the sand.
Posted by: Sifty

Um, Mr. Rivers is still with us.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 21, 2024 02:50 PM (v6JzV)

70 Tabatabai's father is a senior official in Iran's nuclear program.

So she's perfect for a sensitive position here.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 21, 2024 02:51 PM (pWgGF)

71 i think al kaida wants hammass to release the hostages so the u.s. and others can then really press israel to accept a ceasefire (so hammass can survive to commit atrocities another day)

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 21, 2024 02:51 PM (CWTWj)

72 Recall that the Mossad ran the Iranian "anti-Israeli spy" program?
That the head was actually Mossad?

Why would you suppose the US State Department "anti-Israeli spy" program:
1) doesn't exist
2) isn't infiltrated by Mossad

To put it bluntly:
The Real Project 2025 is the list of traitors and spies in the State Department that have been undermining the people of the United States.
And Bibi is going to give Trump that list ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 21, 2024 02:51 PM (u2wrQ)

73 I thought Darrin was Tabitha's father...

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 21, 2024 02:51 PM (v6JzV)

74 I took a nap earlier, which is something I NEVER do during the day, and after reviewing the remainder of Buck's thread, I saw I missed some condolences.

I thank each and every one of you for your generosity of thoughts and prayers for my family.

We are eternally in your debt.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 21, 2024 02:52 PM (Zz0t1)

75 And who is Andrew Bates?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 21, 2024 02:52 PM (Zz0t1)

76 Do swim trunks count as pants for purposes of the Book Thread?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 21, 2024 02:47 PM

As long as it isn't one of those Borat mankini things.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 21, 2024 02:53 PM (sO+O2)

77 And who is Andrew Bates?
Posted by: Sponge

He's a master...

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 21, 2024 02:53 PM (v6JzV)

78 Mid-Week in Pictures: Special Emergency Big Mac Edition

https://is.gd/UBANqj

Posted by: Archimedes at October 21, 2024 02:53 PM (xCA6C)

79 77 And who is Andrew Bates?
Posted by: Sponge

He's a master...
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 21, 2024 02:53 PM (v6JzV)

Owns a Hotel?

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 21, 2024 02:53 PM (QAkQ3)

80 He's a master...
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 21, 2024 02:53 PM (v6JzV)

Baiter?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 21, 2024 02:54 PM (Zz0t1)

81 >>>>I seem to recall that it was said the Israelis had jets in Azerbaijan.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 21, 2024 02:48 PM (v6JzV)
******
Yes, and then there was the cyber attack in Iranian centrifuges that was leaked by us. This has been going on for a long time and I guess for Israel it’s the cost of doing business.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at October 21, 2024 02:54 PM (tJ28a)

82 And who is Andrew Bates?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 21, 2024 02:52 PM (Zz0t1)

———————

He runs a motel. Kinda decent but the room service sucks.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 21, 2024 02:54 PM (u73oe)

83 10 HAVANA, Oct 20 (Reuters) - Cuba's electrical grid collapsed again on Sunday, the fourth such failure in 48 hours, raising fresh doubts about a quick fix on an island already suffering from severe shortages of food, fuel and medicine.
The blackout, after weeks of rolling outages, sparked some small protests around the Caribbean island, where a tropical storm threatened to hamper efforts to restore power.

I guess the Green New Deal isn't working out too well for them.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 21, 2024 02:38 PM (uxCna)

Well gooooolllleeeyyy, we just found 2 trillion in the cushions of the couch. Lookout Havana here we come to save the day.

Posted by: Fema at October 21, 2024 02:54 PM (uBBbP)

84 47 Operation BearClaw!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 21, 2024 02:46 PM (aPY1X)

...coming from an impeachable source

Posted by: Auspex at October 21, 2024 02:55 PM (j4U/Z)

85 These people! These rotten cocksucking, evil motherfuckers want to get people killed. The Jewish people. Supporting terrorists and the terrorist regime in Iran is fucking insane. But there they are all through our government. Because reasons.

I cannot hate these creatures more. Fucking diseased cockroaches.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at October 21, 2024 02:55 PM (4XwPj)

86 Who is Andrew Bates, and what kind of drugs do you have to be on to pretend that scumbag pedophile grifting shit-for-brains Joe Biden is now or ever was a foreign policy heavyweight?
Posted by: spindrift at October 21, 2024 02:47 PM (OguvZ)

Barely an inconvenience, Biden has been wrong on every US foreign policy for 50years. Do the opposite of what he says.

Posted by: Beartooth at October 21, 2024 02:55 PM (WuJwx)

87 Smells like John Fucking Kerry.

Posted by: Redenzo at October 21, 2024 02:55 PM (V/pbu)

88 HAVANA, Oct 20 (Reuters) - Cuba's electrical grid collapsed again on Sunday, the fourth such failure in 48 hours, raising fresh doubts about a quick fix on an island already suffering from severe shortages of food, fuel and medicine.

Coming to a country near you. Soon.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 21, 2024 02:56 PM (pWgGF)

89 71 i think al kaida wants hammass to release the hostages so the u.s. and others can then really press israel to accept a ceasefire (so hammass can survive to commit atrocities another day)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 21, 2024 02:51 PM (CWTWj)

This. A strategic surrender

Posted by: Fema at October 21, 2024 02:56 PM (uBBbP)

90 Byron York:

So, is there a cause and effect here? It’s entirely possible that wildly negative media coverage is actually causing many people to view Trump more favorably. After all, the media are some of the least-trusted institutions in public life, and if top media figures say something, millions of people are likely to think the opposite. It’s hard to see Trump-bashing as helping Trump, but that might be what is going on.

https://is.gd/AMwrj6

Posted by: Archimedes at October 21, 2024 02:56 PM (xCA6C)

91
Cuba is in trouble because of Trump's blockade.

The news people are serious about that.

Posted by: Auspex at October 21, 2024 02:57 PM (j4U/Z)

92 Come on, Mossad.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 21, 2024 02:58 PM (i24o9)

93 It'd be a real shame if during the next rocket attack that several of them were missed by Iron Dome and hit the US Embassy. Even worse if on the same night several suspected leakers committed suicide by stepping in front of the metro train.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 21, 2024 02:58 PM (W/lyH)

94 So… Russia, China, Venezuela and the United States are allied with Iran?? Got it..

Posted by: tubal at October 21, 2024 02:59 PM (PCK5/)

95 They're investigating themselves. NO ONE will be found at guilt, they'll close the case fact free and nothing will happen.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 21, 2024 02:59 PM (Zz0t1)

96 Even worse if on the same night several suspected leakers committed suicide by stepping in front of the metro train.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 21, 2024 02:58 PM (W/lyH)
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I'm for the ever-popular "threw themselves backward on to a dozen salad forks."

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at October 21, 2024 02:59 PM (U1w17)

97 Cuba needs windmills. And solar cells.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 21, 2024 02:59 PM (63Dwl)

98 "Um, Mr. Rivers is still with us."

Lol. I stand by what I said. He looks like he was doused in syphilis, set on fire, and beaten out with a sledgehammer.

Posted by: Sifty at October 21, 2024 02:59 PM (/vs/7)

99 82 And who is Andrew Bates?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 21, 2024 02:52 PM (Zz0t1)

———————

He runs a motel. Kinda decent but the room service sucks.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 21, 2024 02:54 PM (u73oe)
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Avoid the dark and gloomy places such as The Basement!

Posted by: Ciampino - You Have Been Warned at October 21, 2024 03:00 PM (qfLjt)

100 Cuba is in trouble because of Trump's blockade.

The news people are serious about that.
Posted by: Auspex at October 21, 2024 02:57 PM (j4U/Z)

It's time to move the UN to Havana, and we leave get out of it. Everybody wins!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 21, 2024 03:00 PM (VNX3d)

101 Re: Havana - a columnist at WSJ recently wrote about how Cuban officials are taking advantage of our open borders, slipping into Florida and then applying for asylum without mentioning that they are high level government employees. Something like 10% of the Cuban population is now in the US.

Should Biden/Kamala amnesty the current population of illegals we will have Cuban officials as dual citizens with the ability to brin all of their family via chain migration.

Makes on wonder how many other enemy states are doing this….

Posted by: Lizzy at October 21, 2024 03:00 PM (Hkcdp)

102 Smells like John Fucking Kerry.
Posted by: Redenzo at October 21, 2024 02:55 PM (V/pbu)

Someone answered the question?

*the question is always "Who shit?"*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 21, 2024 03:00 PM (Zz0t1)

103 Cuba is in trouble because of Trump's blockade.

The news people are serious about that.
Posted by: Auspex

Someone should tell them that the reason Cuba is in trouble is because of all that socialism. It ain't the utopia they were promised. It's the version that everyone gets.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at October 21, 2024 03:00 PM (4XwPj)

104 If I recall correctly, Obama used to leak Top Secret Israeli info also.

Israel would have KNOWN Obiden would do this, so I presume Israel fed fake intel to them.

Posted by: MrExcitement at October 21, 2024 03:00 PM (hOOi9)

105 Trump is blockading Cuba?? How does that work, exactly??

Posted by: tubal at October 21, 2024 03:00 PM (PCK5/)

106 Makes on wonder how many other enemy states are doing this….

Posted by: Lizzy at October 21, 2024 03:00 PM (Hkcdp)

Gonna go out on super tiny limb and say, All of them.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 21, 2024 03:01 PM (CIS44)

107 >I seem to recall that it was said the Israelis had jets in Azerbaijan.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 21, 2024 02:48 PM (v6JzV)
******
Yes, and then there was the cyber attack in Iranian centrifuges that was leaked by us. This has been going on for a long time and I guess for Israel it’s the cost of doing business.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly

By now, Israel knows to only let us know what they want publicly known.
Hence, the reason why no one knew about the exploding pagers. They really didn't want anyone to know.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 21, 2024 03:01 PM (3FQ2L)

108 He runs a motel. Kinda decent but the room service sucks.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 21, 2024 02:54 PM (u73oe)
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Avoid the dark and gloomy places such as The Basement!
Posted by: Ciampino - You Have Been Warned at October 21, 2024 03:00 PM (qfLjt)
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Mother hasn't been herself, lately.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at October 21, 2024 03:01 PM (U1w17)

109 Trump is blockading Cuba?? How does that work, exactly??
Posted by: tubal at October 21, 2024 03:00 PM (PCK5/)

He's got an awful lot of governmental power for a guy who's only running for high office.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 21, 2024 03:01 PM (Zz0t1)

110 >>They're investigating themselves. NO ONE will be found at guilt, they'll close the case fact free and nothing will happen.

The wild card in this deck might be the Israelis. They have long memories and creative ways of hitting back on their time line.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 21, 2024 03:01 PM (LkLld)

111 HAVANA, Oct 20 (Reuters) - Cuba's electrical grid collapsed again on Sunday, the fourth such failure in 48 hours, raising fresh doubts about a quick fix on an island already suffering from severe shortages of food, fuel and medicine.

Coming to a country near you. Soon.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 21, 2024 02:56 PM (pWgGF)

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We're gonna need MOAR DEI hires to manage it!

Posted by: ShainS -- Musk May be The X-Factor in Overcoming Fraud at October 21, 2024 03:02 PM (Oz/Kv)

112 The wild card in this deck might be the Israelis. They have long memories and creative ways of hitting back on their time line.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 21, 2024 03:01 PM (LkLld)

Valid point, but only if they get back into the assassination business outside the middle east.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 21, 2024 03:02 PM (Zz0t1)

113 If the Deep State pulls off the fraud election say goodbye to Israel

Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2024 03:02 PM (fwDg9)

114
Trump is blockading Cuba?? How does that work, exactly??
Posted by: tubal

A luxurious wall built in the ocean.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 21, 2024 03:03 PM (63Dwl)

115 I'm for the ever-popular "threw themselves backward on to a dozen salad forks."
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at October 21, 2024 02:59 PM (U1w17)

Sometimes the old ways are the best ways.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 21, 2024 03:03 PM (W/lyH)

116 Valid point, but only if they get back into the assassination business outside the middle east.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 21, 2024 03:02 PM (Zz0t1)

Oh don't get me excited!

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 21, 2024 03:03 PM (CIS44)

117 What is an Andrew Bates and why is he so proud of his delusions?

Posted by: Ripley at October 21, 2024 03:03 PM (GUOwU)

118 We won't be seeing Andrew Bates for awhile. It's gonna take time to pry his lips off Biden's ass.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 21, 2024 03:03 PM (W/lyH)

119 The State Department did not respond to a request for comment on the matter.
_______________________________

The fact that a government office of civil servants can ignore questions from the press annoys me more than anything else about this. They should not have that luxury...at all.

Posted by: Orson at October 21, 2024 03:03 PM (dIske)

120
Oh don't get me excited!
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 21, 2024 03:03 PM (CIS44)

Uh oh. Did they remember the pee pads?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 21, 2024 03:04 PM (Zz0t1)

121 Norman Bates>> Andrew Bates…

Posted by: tubal at October 21, 2024 03:04 PM (PCK5/)

122 I blame Julia Louie-Dreyfus' unhappy oppressed snatch.

Posted by: Sifty at October 21, 2024 03:04 PM (/vs/7)

123 Remember a couple weeks ago when the media as telling us that Florida was in play?

@EricLDaugh
·
17m
What's happening in Florida right now is unreal.

I thought the GOP peaked.

It's now R+26.6.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 21, 2024 03:04 PM (LkLld)

124 Barely an inconvenience, Biden has been wrong on every US foreign policy for 50years. Do the opposite of what he says.
Posted by: Beartooth at October 21, 2024 02:55 PM (WuJwx)

Hey! That's my schtick!

-Jimmy Cramer

Posted by: LASue at October 21, 2024 03:05 PM (lCppi)

125 Julia Louis-Dreyfus… textbook example of useless eater…

Posted by: tubal at October 21, 2024 03:05 PM (PCK5/)

126 I blame Julia Louie-Dreyfus' unhappy oppressed snatch.
Posted by: Sifty at October 21, 2024 03:04 PM (/vs/7)

Remember that scene in Star Wars when they were going to throw our heroes into that hole in the desert?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 21, 2024 03:05 PM (Zz0t1)

127
No doubt there is a huge coterie of eunuchs at the State Department whose rice bowls are completely dependent (and solely invested) in the "two state solution" for the Israel - Palestine question. A bigger nest of vipers within our government would be harder to find, I'd bet.

The opportunity for one or more of them to throw a monkey wrench into Israeli plans would be awfully hard to overlook. Start looking there.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 21, 2024 03:05 PM (xG4kz)

128 What's the Hebrew word for discovering a mole?

Posted by: Ben Had at October 21, 2024 03:05 PM (t8vHj)

129 103 Cuba is in trouble because of Trump's blockade.

The news people are serious about that.
Posted by: Auspex

Someone should tell them that the reason Cuba is in trouble is because of all that socialism. It ain't the utopia they were promised. It's the version that everyone gets.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at October 21, 2024 03:00 PM (4XwPj)

I think it's actually straight-up Communism in Cuba, actually, and it's been going on for two generations.

Something new and interesting is going on in Cuba. I don't know what it is, but it had Trump's fingerprints all over it.

It's timed, no doubt, so that Trump can take credit for finally ousting the Communist dictatorship there.

Trump's Presidency has really been all about the Deep State's assassination of JFK, and control of the WH ever since. It would make sense for Trump to undo the government the Deep State installed there.

Posted by: MrExcitement at October 21, 2024 03:06 PM (hOOi9)

130 meh *yawn*

another day of routine betrayal and bad faith, the banality of everyday treason

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at October 21, 2024 03:06 PM (J6S9v)

131 98
Rivers eh?
Obligatory

https://youtu.be/3rW7Vpep3II

(my favorite ginger)

Posted by: Ciampino - It's epic at October 21, 2024 03:06 PM (qfLjt)

132 What's the Hebrew word for discovering a mole?
Posted by: Ben Had at October 21, 2024 03:05 PM (t8vHj)
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Shibboleth.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at October 21, 2024 03:07 PM (U1w17)

133 Trump is blockading Cuba?? How does that work, exactly??

Posted by: tubal at October 21, 2024 03:00 PM (PCK5/)

---------------

"After Putin stole the 2016 election for him, Trump built a big ugly wall between us and Cuba -- AND even made Mexico pay for it, h8r! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Musk May be The X-Factor in Overcoming Fraud at October 21, 2024 03:07 PM (Oz/Kv)

134 Visegrád 24@visegrad24
BREAKING:
Al Qaeda calls on Hamas to release the Israeli hostages.
The announcement was made yesterday by Abu Walid al-Masri, a senior advisor and father-in-law of Saif al-Adel, the leader of Al-Qaeda.

Kill both of them as well

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 21, 2024 03:07 PM (NtVYv)

135 A doctor in Cuba makes less than 100$ a month… rice - RICE!!! is rationed.. as well as sugar. Worker’s paradise..

Posted by: tubal at October 21, 2024 03:07 PM (PCK5/)

136 I continue to be fairly blackpilled; nonetheless, I had the pleasure of voting for DJT and voting against Dan Crenshaw today. So today was a good day.

Posted by: I Only Like Candidates With Both Eyes at October 21, 2024 03:07 PM (90qrx)

137 What's the Hebrew word for discovering a mole?
Posted by: Ben Had at October 21, 2024 03:05 PM (t8vHj)

Bzzzzzz!
Bzzzzzz!
Bzzzzzz!

Bang!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at October 21, 2024 03:08 PM (W/lyH)

138 A doctor in Cuba makes less than 100$ a month… rice - RICE!!! is rationed.. as well as sugar. Worker’s paradise..
Posted by: tubal at October 21, 2024 03:07 PM (PCK5/)

Albeit Mach Frei

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 21, 2024 03:08 PM (Zz0t1)

139 @126 so Julia Louis Dreyfuss snatch is Sarlacc. Explains a lot

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 21, 2024 03:09 PM (a7PbZ)

140 I continue to be fairly blackpilled; nonetheless, I had the pleasure of voting for DJT and voting against Dan Crenshaw today. So today was a good day.
Posted by: I Only Like Candidates With Both Eyes at October 21, 2024 03:07 PM (90qrx)

You're a great American.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 21, 2024 03:09 PM (Zz0t1)

141 Boba Fett, feared interstellar bounty hunter.

Hit with a stick and thrown in to die inside Julia Louis-Dreyfuseses' unhappy oppressed sandy snatch in 2 seconds by his own jetpack.

Damn shameful what that evil Trump gets away with.

Posted by: Sifty at October 21, 2024 03:09 PM (/vs/7)

142 That Hitler fellow was onto something!

Posted by: U.S. Department of State at October 21, 2024 03:09 PM (d9fT1)

143 Khaled Mashal urges the sandrats to keep fighting from his safe house in Turkey.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 21, 2024 03:09 PM (t8vHj)

144 Heh, what did Cubans use for lighting before candles?

Electricity.

California joke repurposed.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 21, 2024 03:09 PM (lTGtQ)

145 "Cuba is in trouble because of Trump's blockade.

The news people are serious about that.
Posted by: Auspex

Someone should tell them that the reason Cuba is in trouble is because of all that socialism. It ain't the utopia they were promised. It's the version that everyone gets.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem"

Someone should also explain to them the difference between a blockade and an embargo.

Posted by: Ripley at October 21, 2024 03:09 PM (GUOwU)

146 This Bates clown for real?

Posted by: A dude in MI at October 21, 2024 03:09 PM (/6GbT)

147 We can vote starting next week Wed, so ill hit it up after the gym on Wed or Thur.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 21, 2024 03:09 PM (CIS44)

148 125 Julia Louis-Dreyfus… textbook example of useless eater…
Posted by: tubal at October 21, 2024 03:05 PM (PCK5/)
__________________________________

With the caveat of being the heiress to $Billions.

Posted by: Orson at October 21, 2024 03:10 PM (dIske)

149 Boba Fett, feared interstellar bounty hunter.

Hit with a stick and thrown in to die inside Julia Louis-Dreyfuseses' unhappy oppressed sandy snatch in 2 seconds by his own jetpack.

Damn shameful what that evil Trump gets away with.
Posted by: Sifty at October 21, 2024 03:09 PM (/vs/7)

Ya, but he got out and gave us one of the most boring TV shows of all time.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 21, 2024 03:10 PM (CIS44)

150 Overlooking Julia Louise Dreyfus's snizz:

https://is.gd/uMXtNk

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 21, 2024 03:11 PM (Zz0t1)

151 148 125 Julia Louis-Dreyfus… textbook example of useless eater…
Posted by: tubal at October 21, 2024 03:05 PM (PCK5/)
__________________________________

With the caveat of being the heiress to $Billions.
Posted by: Orson at October 21, 2024 03:10 PM (dIske)

Yes indeed… you can tell by her attitude.

Posted by: tubal at October 21, 2024 03:11 PM (PCK5/)

152 Don't back that (Israel), back this (Ukraine), because:

Aljazeera, EXPLAINER, 10/21/2024,
News, Russia-Ukraine war
Why is Ukraine’s army facing a desertion crisis?
Thousands of men have abandoned their posts, blaming poor conditions on the front lines and open-ended service.

In part, "According to the Kyiv Post, it is believed that about 60,000 people have been facing criminal charges for fleeing their posts since the war started. The Ukrainian daily cited documents from the prosecutor general, with almost half of those cases initiated this year.

However, British daily The Times also cited figures from the prosecutor general which, it said, showed some 51,000 criminal cases were initiated for desertion and abandonment of a military unit between January and September of this year. El Pais newspaper cited a closer figure of 45,543 desertions between January and August this year, which it said was data from the Prosecutor General’s Office which had been leaked to the Ukrainian press.

All these figures are much higher than the 22,000 criminal charges filed for the same offence in 2023 and just 9,000 cases in 2022."

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+/- a million killed, both sides, but 'the Market.'

Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at October 21, 2024 03:11 PM (NFX2v)

153 Did Elaine and Jerry ever do it?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 21, 2024 03:12 PM (v6JzV)

154 You can check out Tulsi's ass at the beginning of Charlie Kirk's latest video that dropped an hour ago.

He is in Tucson.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at October 21, 2024 03:12 PM (ufFY8)

155
A doctor in Cuba makes less than 100$ a month… rice - RICE!!! is rationed.. as well as sugar. Worker’s paradise..
Posted by: tubal

Why would they allow the use of sugar? Isn't it a killer?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 21, 2024 03:12 PM (63Dwl)

156 Cuba’s national power grid has now collapsed 4 times in the last 3 or 4 days.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 21, 2024 03:12 PM (cV2we)

157 "Ya, but he got out and gave us one of the most boring TV shows of all time."

Sad day when Nick Nolte's drunk overdub is more exciting than the main character.

Posted by: Sifty at October 21, 2024 03:12 PM (/vs/7)

158 Did Elaine and Jerry ever do it?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 21, 2024 03:12 PM (v6JzV)

=====

Yes.

Posted by: Jordan61 at October 21, 2024 03:12 PM (DRSnL)

159
Tim Pool

@Timcast
People don't realize that Hitler worked at McSchnitzels fast food in 1932 before being appointed chancellor as a stunt to garner support

This is a well known fascist tactic

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 21, 2024 03:12 PM (TGPs7)

160 Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, specifically Mark Warner or Jon Ossoff

Posted by: DanMan at October 21, 2024 03:13 PM (8uzBS)

161
Cuba has free healthcare, food for a fraction of what U.S. grocery gaugers charge, and in portions that prevent Cubans from getting fat and the healthcare problems that go with that.

The genius of socialism.

Posted by: Auspex at October 21, 2024 03:13 PM (j4U/Z)

162 Israelis are not stupid so hopefully they gave plans which they didn't intend to follow.

This is also instructive for the whole world, particularly friendly nations. Do not trust a Dem admin, ever. Nobody should trust Dems, ever.

Posted by: Decaf at October 21, 2024 03:13 PM (unUNN)

163 Did Elaine and Jerry ever do it?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 21, 2024 03:12 PM (v6JzV)

I didn't watch the show, hardly ever, but I think at one point they implied they were together in their past and she faked all her orgasms when with him.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 21, 2024 03:13 PM (Zz0t1)

164 17m
What's happening in Florida right now is unreal.

I thought the GOP peaked.

It's now R+26.6.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 21, 2024 03:04 PM (LkLld)

Is that voter registrations? I'm not surprised that it's not in play, but "unreal" is the right word for it.

Seems like I've heard some positive goings-on in VA, election integrity-wise. I wouldn't be surprised if VA "turns" red. There may be other supposedly "blue" states that are revealed to really be "red" too.

Remember what happened in 2016 - the path to victory lied in picking up some unexpected states. Wouldn't it be wild if Trump took NY? That may sound impossible, but Zeldin "lost" to Hochul by only a few (potentially fake) percent in 2022. We use Dominion machines here. If Dominion is cyberattacked, we may find out just how "blue" NY is.

Posted by: MrExcitement at October 21, 2024 03:13 PM (hOOi9)

165 158 Did Elaine and Jerry ever do it?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 21, 2024 03:12 PM (v6JzV)

=====

Yes.
Posted by: Jordan61 at October 21, 2024 03:12 PM (DRSnL)

Yes… I believe it was the “Meh..” episode..

Posted by: tubal at October 21, 2024 03:14 PM (PCK5/)

166 Posted by: Jordan61 at October 21, 2024 03:12 PM (DRSnL)

There's something comforting coming back from Corsicana with TWO bottles of Buffalo Trace......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 21, 2024 03:14 PM (Zz0t1)

167 latest breaking news from the DM:

"Susan Ford Bales, daughter of late Republican President Gerald Ford, endorses Kamala Harris for President "

LOL

*spit*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at October 21, 2024 03:14 PM (J6S9v)

168 I didn't watch the show, hardly ever, but I think at one point they implied they were together in their past and she faked all her orgasms when with him.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 21, 2024 03:13 PM (Zz0t1)

There was also the friends with benefits episode.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 21, 2024 03:14 PM (CIS44)

169 Elon Musk @elonmusk

Accurate

The Vigilant Fox @VigilantFox

Longtime Democrat Bill Ackman Fires Off a Dire Warning to America

He says the Democratic Party's policies are so destructive that they're indistinguishable from what our worst enemies would do to "destroy America from within."

Ackman then dropped the receipts with 33 damning examples:

https://bit.ly/3UjiZHU

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 21, 2024 03:14 PM (P5BPp)

170 161
Cuba has free healthcare, food for a fraction of what U.S. grocery gaugers charge, and in portions that prevent Cubans from getting fat and the healthcare problems that go with that.

The genius of socialism.
Posted by: Auspex at October 21, 2024 03:13 PM (j4U/Z)

Ah… the Treblinka Method…

Posted by: tubal at October 21, 2024 03:16 PM (PCK5/)

171 No, Joe Biden does not have a doctorate in foreign affairs.
.......

But he did work at a McDonalds in between truck driving gigs.

Posted by: wth at October 21, 2024 03:16 PM (v0R5T)

172 >>Is that voter registrations? I'm not surprised that it's not in play, but "unreal" is the right word for it.

Early voting.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 21, 2024 03:16 PM (LkLld)

173 Huh. Just found out from Wiki that "Dreyfus" means "tripod" in Yiddish.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 21, 2024 03:16 PM (v6JzV)

174 I keep coming back to ways to measure enthusiasm, and I really keep falling back on partisan enrollments being the absolute best measure for it considering the data that's out there.

Not polling, which is nonsense, but registrations. Not people who will or won't say, "I will vote this way," but who have made concrete steps to vote this or that way.

In the past 2 years, the percent change of Republican registrations across all states that track partisan information in registrations is +1.63%.

In the past 2 years, the percent change of Democrat registrations across all states that track partisan information in registrations is -10.41%.

That doesn't mean a 12 point swing in terms of votes. It's more about percentage changes within a state's vote percentages from one election to the next. However, it broadly seems to signal...enthusiasm.

I just went back to 2008 and FL. D's saw 700k increase. R's saw 200k increase. The D increase in comparison to R in voting was in line with those numbers percentage wise.

I think my model is very rough, but is pointing to a better way to try and predict elections.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 21, 2024 03:16 PM (GBKbO)

175 Susan Ford Bales, a rat climbing on a sinking ship. I like it. They can all go down together.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 21, 2024 03:16 PM (t8vHj)

176 Like Sun Tzu said:

"Never innerrup a mufucka when he fuckin' aroun to fine out."

I hope that G-ds home team puts the hurt on Iran so bad they got to ask Cuba for breakfast tomorrow.

Posted by: Sifty at October 21, 2024 03:16 PM (oAiWM)

177 Remember all those anti-Netanyahu demonstrations in Israel? They have magically stopped. Israel's left must have worked out they were being used by Obama's people to destroy them all, not just Bibi.

Posted by: Decaf at October 21, 2024 03:16 PM (unUNN)

178 There's something comforting coming back from Corsicana with TWO bottles of Buffalo Trace......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 21, 2024 03:14 PM (Zz0t1)

=====

I'm just glad it didn't break in my suitcase. Because that would've been unpleasant.

Posted by: Jordan61 at October 21, 2024 03:17 PM (DRSnL)

179 Huh. Just found out from Wiki that "Dreyfus" means "tripod" in Yiddish.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 21, 2024 03:16 PM (v6JzV)

That is, how you say, my nickname.

Posted by: The Paolo at October 21, 2024 03:17 PM (ufFY8)

180
I'm just glad it didn't break in my suitcase. Because that would've been unpleasant.
Posted by: Jordan61 at October 21, 2024 03:17 PM (DRSnL)

Heh.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 21, 2024 03:17 PM (Zz0t1)

181 just happen to be looking at this: wsj 09/04/08:

"In fact, decade after decade and on important issue after important issue, Mr. Biden's judgment has been deeply flawed."

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 21, 2024 03:18 PM (CWTWj)

182 Think of all the carbon Cuba is not creating. They should get a medal or something.

Posted by: fd at October 21, 2024 03:18 PM (vFG9F)

183 >>>>>This is also instructive for the whole world, particularly friendly nations. Do not trust a Dem admin, ever. Nobody should trust Dems, ever.
Posted by: Decaf at October 21, 2024 03:13 PM (unUNN)
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It’s the administrative state that is behind this subterfuge. They think they are unaccountable and act like it. That must change .

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at October 21, 2024 03:18 PM (tJ28a)

184 91
Cuba is in trouble because of Trump's blockade.

The news people are serious about that.
Posted by: Auspex

Oh well. Biden-Harris didn't lift it? Funny how the Cuban Humanitarian Parole by the USA has been in motion for quite a while during its administration.

And then there's: AP, Oversight board says it will help speed up projects to fix Puerto Rico’s electric grid
A federal control board that oversees Puerto Rico’s finances says it will step in to help speed up projects to fix the island’s crumbling power grid as widespread outages persist. September 18

AOC's a bit to quiet, as are a few other Latino, hispanic lawmakers. Something's up.

Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at October 21, 2024 03:18 PM (NFX2v)

185 I hasten to remind you morons Jonathan Pollard leaked God knows what to Israel for years and Israel didn't bother telling us what he was doing.

And after he did his 25 years in FedPen Israel pensioned him to Israel.

Posted by: torabora at October 21, 2024 03:19 PM (f3C/k)

186 Posted by: I Only Like Candidates With Both Eyes
......

I only like candidates with two testicles.

Posted by: wth at October 21, 2024 03:19 PM (v0R5T)

187 Biden is so good, he got incredibly embarrassed in a debate with Trump and his candidacy AND presidency ended at that moment.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 21, 2024 03:19 PM (Zz0t1)

188 It would be a much smaller list to give names of people who aren't being paid off by enemies of Israel and America.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2024 03:20 PM (gka/5)

189
Valerie Jarrett, the original Iranian spy

Posted by: Frank Barone at October 21, 2024 03:20 PM (+oR7L)

190 No doubt there is a huge coterie of eunuchs at the State Department whose rice bowls are completely dependent (and solely invested) in the "two state solution" for the Israel - Palestine question. A bigger nest of vipers within our government would be harder to find, I'd bet.

The opportunity for one or more of them to throw a monkey wrench into Israeli plans would be awfully hard to overlook. Start looking there.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 21, 2024 03:05 PM (xG4kz)

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BREAKING: SCOTUS Cheap Justice Benedict Roberts Assigned Task of Investigating Leaks Harmful to Israel. Developing ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Musk May be The X-Factor in Overcoming Fraud at October 21, 2024 03:20 PM (Oz/Kv)

191 I also continue to be blackpilled, but of course I'm voting. I may be wrong, you know.

Posted by: InZona at October 21, 2024 03:20 PM (/O9OF)

192 I'm surprised a few of these traitorous scum haven't had unfortunate accidents

Posted by: A dude in MI at October 21, 2024 03:21 PM (/6GbT)

193 189
Valerie Jarrett, the original Iranian spy
Posted by: Frank Barone at October 21, 2024 03:20 PM (+oR7L)

The Farsi Ferret…

Posted by: tubal at October 21, 2024 03:21 PM (PCK5/)

194 tripod = tri (three) and pod (foot)

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 21, 2024 03:21 PM (CWTWj)

195 There's something comforting coming back from Corsicana with TWO bottles of Buffalo Trace......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 21, 2024 03:14 PM (Zz0t1)

Ooohhh!
My new BFF!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at October 21, 2024 03:22 PM (W/lyH)

196 I only like candidates with two testicles.
Posted by: wth

Ach! Off to Dachau with you!
-- A. Schickelgruber

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 21, 2024 03:22 PM (v6JzV)

197 Valerie Jarrett, the original Iranian spy

Posted by: Frank Barone at October 21, 2024 03:20 PM (+oR7L)

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... and DogEater's Muslim Brotherhood handler.

Posted by: ShainS -- Musk May be The X-Factor in Overcoming Fraud at October 21, 2024 03:22 PM (Okm/n)

198 "AOC's a bit to quiet, as are a few other Latino, hispanic lawmakers. Something's up."

Been enjoying that little red chihuahua shutting her commie word hole for a while.

Like the neighbor's dog that barks so much it takes a while to realize it shut up. You just know you feel better for some reason.

Posted by: Sifty at October 21, 2024 03:22 PM (oAiWM)

199 Valerie Jarrett, the original Iranian spy
Posted by: Frank Barone at October 21, 2024 03:20 PM (+oR7L)

The Farsi Ferret…
Posted by: tubal at October 21, 2024 03:21 PM (PCK5/)

https://is.gd/mrq8rI

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 21, 2024 03:22 PM (Zz0t1)

200 I think my model is very rough, but is pointing to a better way to try and predict elections.

********************

Which is why I dont understand the unhinged DU to Trump's past week. They think it was all loss while Joy Coconut had a fabulous week.

Nothing in the polls, the ballot returns, or Coconut's bizarre behavior reflects this.

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at October 21, 2024 03:22 PM (M7vhK)

201 If the US doesn't do everything possible to start WW3 soon I'm going to be very disappointed.

Armageddon for everyone!

Posted by: Watchdog at October 21, 2024 03:23 PM (UYgW2)

202 166 There's something comforting coming back from Corsicana with TWO bottles of Buffalo Trace......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 21, 2024 03:14 PM (Zz0t1)

Having finally had it, I'm going to commit Horde Blasphemy.

I still prefer Maker's Mark.

Posted by: XTC at October 21, 2024 03:23 PM (UnA8+)

203 Does anyone REALLY wonder why Mossad has not put out a successful hit of FJB ?

Posted by: Ray at October 21, 2024 03:23 PM (5wLuE)

204 173 Huh. Just found out from Wiki that "Dreyfus" means "tripod" in Yiddish.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 21, 2024 03:16 PM (v6JzV)
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That would be The Paolo's nickname then?

Posted by: Ciampino - It's epicentered at October 21, 2024 03:24 PM (qfLjt)

205 The Hill, The folly of investing in CubA, by Jerry Haar, Opinion Contributor - 08/01/22 3:00 PM ET

In small part, "While the embargo on Cuba has prevented Americans from doing business with Cuban nationals and entities for more than 60 years, the Biden administration has recently rolled back Trump-era restrictions and authorized a U.S. license to finance and invest directly in private small businesses on the island."

The market's the driver. 😉

Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at October 21, 2024 03:24 PM (NFX2v)

206 I hasten to remind you morons Jonathan Pollard leaked God knows what to Israel for years and Israel didn't bother telling us what he was doing.

And after he did his 25 years in FedPen Israel pensioned him to Israel.
Posted by: torabora at October 21, 2024 03:19 PM (f3C/k)
***

That's why we call it The Great Game.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 21, 2024 03:24 PM (W/lyH)

207 201 Which is why I dont understand the unhinged DU to Trump's past week. They think it was all loss while Joy Coconut had a fabulous week.

Nothing in the polls, the ballot returns, or Coconut's bizarre behavior reflects this.
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at October 21, 2024 03:22 PM (M7vhK)

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My assumption about registrations being predictive of elections pretty much outright says that most political news ends up just being white noise, affecting only the closest of races where a few thousand votes can change things.

Trump having a great week won't change that at levels that would undo or do anything to registration advantages that have been baking into the cake for 2 years.

Of course, DU is going, "The polls!" when they wonder why Kamala isn't pulling ahead. Polling that shows swings over the course of weeks are nonsense.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 21, 2024 03:24 PM (GBKbO)

208 Does anyone REALLY wonder why Mossad has not put out a successful hit of FJB ?
Posted by: Ray at October 21, 2024 03:23 PM (5wLuE)

Why bother with the puppet?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 21, 2024 03:24 PM (VNX3d)

209 Israel - and Netanyahu - I am sure, know what a back stabbing, terrorist loving administration this is ... and let them spill information - but have different plans - plans that they will never tell Biden.
Biden and Kamala and the rest of this ugly administration suck...

Posted by: Cathymv at October 21, 2024 03:25 PM (LPyx5)

210 something about cuban on twitchy... don't wanna say

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 21, 2024 03:25 PM (CWTWj)

211
Having finally had it, I'm going to commit Horde Blasphemy.

I still prefer Maker's Mark.
Posted by: XTC at October 21, 2024 03:23 PM (UnA8+)

I will have to completely disagree with you, here.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 21, 2024 03:25 PM (Zz0t1)

212 Hitler worked at McSchnitzels fast food in 1932 before being appointed chancellor as a stunt to garner support

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I suddenly have an odd craving for a frikadellen

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at October 21, 2024 03:25 PM (M7vhK)

213 I think my model is very rough, but is pointing to a better way to try and predict elections.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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There is a whole set of research literature based on party id, partisan swing, etc. from UK and other parliamentary countries that use first past the post elections.

Not as well researched in the US (at least the last time that I looked at such matters in the literature). Part of it is the complications induced by partisanship collapse of both parties (much greater proportionately for the Dems as the New Deal coalition fell apart). We have a much higher percentage of independents. There was a separate dispute in the literature involving independents. Some argued it was a myth due to very few 'true independents' that swing back and forth and fake independents that were treated as 'leaners' who almost always follow their lean in elections.

Then you have whether or not the party mobilized their voters. The GOP, for a long time, as a smaller party historically never favored activating the general electorate because it viewed those low propensity voters as potentially disloyal and likely to ticket split. Thus, the GOP went for base elections.

Posted by: whig at October 21, 2024 03:25 PM (ctrM5)

214 If only Cuba had tried real communism!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 21, 2024 03:25 PM (L/fGl)

215 The Indians used every part of the Buffalo Trace.

Posted by: Sifty at October 21, 2024 03:26 PM (oAiWM)

216 What's happening in Florida right now is unreal.

I thought the GOP peaked.

It's now R+26.6.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 21, 2024 03:04 PM (LkLld)
+++
I drove by my polling place twice today. Both this morning and again this afternoon it was absolutely covered up with people. I was expecting a big turnout. But this was awesome.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at October 21, 2024 03:26 PM (Lo97M)

217 GASSSSS THEM

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 21, 2024 03:26 PM (W/c5U)

218 O/T but historic.

Powerline has their first mid-week Week-in-Pictures.

https://tinyurl.com/5868ba6j

An it's glorious.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 21, 2024 03:26 PM (a1415)

219 Traitorous bastards.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies' Brigade plucky comic relief at October 21, 2024 03:27 PM (SRRAx)

220 Posted by: I've got bad news for you

Yeah, we're all doomed, and should simply give up.

I get it.

Do you really get paid enough to demean yourself this way?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 21, 2024 03:27 PM (uxCna)

221
Bernie Sanders
@BernieSanders
Yesterday Donald Trump did 15 minutes of work at McDonald’s, where tens of thousands of employees earn starvation wages.

But when asked whether we need to raise the $7.25 minimum wage, he refused to comment.

I will comment. We need to raise the federal minimum wage to $17/hr.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 21, 2024 03:27 PM (TGPs7)

222 212 Hitler worked at McSchnitzels fast food in 1932 before being appointed chancellor as a stunt to garner support

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I suddenly have an odd craving for a frikadellen
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Hitler could hammer the schnitzel.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 21, 2024 03:27 PM (AdHga)

223 I think my model is very rough, but is pointing to a better way to try and predict elections.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

How do you factor in fraud and outright cheating?

Posted by: A dude in MI at October 21, 2024 03:27 PM (/6GbT)

224 Which is why I dont understand the unhinged DU to Trump's past week. They think it was all loss while Joy Coconut had a fabulous week.

Nothing in the polls, the ballot returns, or Coconut's bizarre behavior reflects this.
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at October 21, 2024 03:22 PM (M7vhK)

“Understand” it as delusion becoming mental illness in front of us. They want it to be true so they invent a reality where they tell themselves it is true.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 21, 2024 03:27 PM (cV2we)

225 Of course, DU is going, "The polls!" when they wonder why Kamala isn't pulling ahead. Polling that shows swings over the course of weeks are nonsense.

******************************

And also 8 years of misses and the pollsters STILL wont stop putting their thumb on the scales with their Plus 25 D weighting

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at October 21, 2024 03:27 PM (M7vhK)

226 213 Then you have whether or not the party mobilized their voters. The GOP, for a long time, as a smaller party historically never favored activating the general electorate because it viewed those low propensity voters as potentially disloyal and likely to ticket split. Thus, the GOP went for base elections.
Posted by: whig at October 21, 2024 03:25 PM (ctrM5)

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I'm beginning to wonder how important GOTV really is on a national scale.

Oh, sure, it'll help in closer races, closing that 1500 vote gap out of a million on election day, but overall? If the people willing to vote for your party aren't enthused enough to just register on their own, then GOTV isn't going to materially affect that problem.

Essentially, "enthusiasm" wins. So, how do you measure it?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 21, 2024 03:28 PM (GBKbO)

227 One of the many things we need to do if we win is to investigate the precise process by which people like Tabatabai received top-secret security clearances.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 21, 2024 02:45 PM (uxCna)

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Any new Republican admin must pull all their security clearances. Anything else is just sheer negligence.

Posted by: Decaf at October 21, 2024 03:28 PM (unUNN)

228 re 221: and drive lots of companies to relocate to india and china

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 21, 2024 03:28 PM (CWTWj)

229 Ruh-roh! Pants on, everybody!
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 21, 2024 02:45 PM (LxER7)

Goddammit, I was told pants weren't required!

Posted by: Caiwyn at October 21, 2024 03:28 PM (BaIXK)

230 204 Does anyone REALLY wonder why Mossad has not put out a successful hit of FJB ?

Posted by: Ray at October 21, 2024 03:23 PM (5wLuE)
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Why? Then get someone worse like Harris? What I would expect is that those Iranian agents get involved in lethal everyday accidents!

Posted by: Ciampino - It's non-unprecedented at October 21, 2024 03:28 PM (qfLjt)

231 Are you a bourbon guy? Cause I can see how someone who's libation of choice is something else would prefer Makers Mark over Buffalo Trace. I'd say the same for myself really. But I think most bourbon hounds (like my wife) would strongly disagree.

Posted by: I Only Like Candidates With Both Eyes at October 21, 2024 03:28 PM (90qrx)

232 You cannot do that in any model, because it’s not quantifiable.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 21, 2024 03:28 PM (cV2we)

233 175 Susan Ford Bales, a rat climbing on a sinking ship.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 21, 2024 03:16 PM (t8vHj)

To be fair, Zombie Betty and 'good 'ol Jerry' Ford would be voting for Kamala as well. They were that kind of Republican.

Posted by: Auspex at October 21, 2024 03:29 PM (j4U/Z)

234 where tens of thousands of employees earn starvation wages.

****************

Those wages would buy a hell of a lot more if it werent for your government spending fueled inflation, fuck face

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at October 21, 2024 03:29 PM (M7vhK)

235 I also continue to be blackpilled, but of course I'm voting. I may be wrong, you know.

Posted by: InZona at October 21, 2024 03:20 PM (/O9OF)

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I fully expect them to prevent Trump from being elected, inaugurated, or allowed to govern BAMN -- but have no choice but to vote, hope, & pray that, in the end, The Magnificent Trump Curse (perhaps with another assist from the Hand of God) will prevail ... continuing to be Real and Spectacular.

Posted by: ShainS -- Musk May be The X-Factor in Overcoming Fraud at October 21, 2024 03:30 PM (njz/M)

236 Yes, in order to "own the Jews," let's sabotage most of our intelligence apparatus. *eyeroll*

To quote possibly the greatest VP candidate of all time: "Martha, do you even hear yourself right now?!"

Posted by: pookysgirl, reporting from Chest Cold Central at October 21, 2024 03:30 PM (dtlDP)

237 @BernieSanders
Yesterday Donald Trump did 15 minutes of work at McDonald’s, where tens of thousands of employees earn starvation wages.

But when asked whether we need to raise the $7.25 minimum wage, he refused to comment.

I will comment. We need to raise the federal minimum wage to $17/hr.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 21, 2024 03:27 PM (TGPs7)

McDonald's, outside of management or franchise ownership, is NOT a f*cking family raising career, you ignorant douchenozzle. It's a STEPPING STONE to get you out of the low wage, low skilled labor world.

Why won't you have a debilitating cardiac event?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 21, 2024 03:30 PM (Zz0t1)

238 Trump having a great week won't change that at levels that would undo or do anything to registration advantages that have been baking into the cake for 2 years.

Of course, DU is going, "The polls!" when they wonder why Kamala isn't pulling ahead. Polling that shows swings over the course of weeks are nonsense.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Like the stock market, you have to de-trend any time series analysis because of random walks and political events can cause momentary blips from the central trend line.

Longitudinal massive panel surveys like the LAT 2016 polling is better at determining such matters and I would be surprised if both Trump and Kamala are NOT doing such longitudinal panel surveys as private polling. That polling is also useful for tweaking campaign messaging (as well as trend analysis correction to outside polling).

Posted by: whig at October 21, 2024 03:30 PM (ctrM5)

239 Bernie's minimum wage crap reminds me of the late, great Rush Limbaugh asking Dems why they were being so cheap. If it's such a great idea, he'd say, why not make it $100?

Posted by: Wally at October 21, 2024 03:30 PM (NXYp1)

240 Israel - and Netanyahu - I am sure, know what a back stabbing, terrorist loving administration this is ... and let them spill information - but have different plans - plans that they will never tell Biden.
Biden and Kamala and the rest of this ugly administration suck...
Posted by: Cathymv
......

Exactly. Bibi should just give Blinken bogus strike plans.
We attack Yemen at dawn.

Posted by: wth at October 21, 2024 03:30 PM (v0R5T)

241 223 How do you factor in fraud and outright cheating?
Posted by: A dude in MI at October 21, 2024 03:27 PM (/6GbT)

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It should actually capture that.

Fraud has to be tied to registration. So, if a party is dumping tens of thousands of fake ballots, they should be tied to fake registrations at the same time.

Unless, of course, things get desperate last second when all you can count on is the courts saying, "Hey...a water main pipe bursting in Atlanta is no good reason to send home all poll watchers in Philly and just continuing to count."

Most industrial scale fraud has this paper trail, just to cover their asses. They don't want 110% turnout. They'll do it if they have to, but they throw in registrations ahead of time (or on the day) to prep the battlefield.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 21, 2024 03:30 PM (GBKbO)

242 218. That was great, thank you.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at October 21, 2024 03:30 PM (mSkAy)

243 and keep in mind that there are the very best and smartest people who think that only they can solve those big problems. if israel attacks iran and the gov't in iran is overthrown and replaced with a pro western gov't, it will only be a temporary solution.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 21, 2024 03:30 PM (CWTWj)

244 The trail leading back to Ariane Tabatabai is getting pretty hot. Read this short twitter thread.

https://tinyurl.com/mrsf3w2

Posted by: JackStraw at October 21, 2024 03:31 PM (LkLld)

245 Maybe the plan is when the new Hillary becomes president, rendition will be back envogue as it was some decades ago.

A money saver.

Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at October 21, 2024 03:31 PM (NFX2v)

246 225 And also 8 years of misses and the pollsters STILL wont stop putting their thumb on the scales with their Plus 25 D weighting
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at October 21, 2024 03:27 PM (M7vhK)

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"2022 was right on! And by right on, we mean that it was sort of right. And by sort of right, we mean that terrible pollsters in PA predicted Fetterman winning."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 21, 2024 03:31 PM (GBKbO)

247 I may be terribly disappointed in two weeks, but at the moment Kamala is giving off all the vibes of a losing campaign, and Trump is giving off all the vibes of a winning campaign.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 21, 2024 03:31 PM (uxCna)

248 Israel did not leak anything to the US or anyone else. This is based on what can be seen from space, and you can see more than you would think. This plus the analysis of the information by people good at making correlations and projections is what the State Department could “leak”.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at October 21, 2024 03:32 PM (ZVgZ4)

249 @BernieSanders
Yesterday Donald Trump did 15 minutes of work at McDonald’s, where tens of thousands of employees earn starvation wages.
......

Nobody starves at McDonalds, Bernie.

Posted by: wth at October 21, 2024 03:32 PM (v0R5T)

250 Bernie Sanders
@BernieSanders
Yesterday Donald Trump did 15 minutes of work at McDonald’s, where tens of thousands of employees earn starvation wages.

But when asked whether we need to raise the $7.25 minimum wage, he refused to comment.

I will comment. We need to raise the federal minimum wage to $17/hr.
Posted by: Mister Ghost

McDonald's wages are not supposed to support you in adulthood or support a family. McDonald's is a job for kids in high school and perhaps college kids between semesters.

Get an education. Learn a trade. That's how you support yourself and a family.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 21, 2024 03:32 PM (yWv01)

251 >>@BernieSanders
Yesterday Donald Trump did 15 minutes of work at McDonald’s, where tens of thousands of employees earn starvation wages.

>>But when asked whether we need to raise the $7.25 minimum wage, he refused to comment.

>>I will comment. We need to raise the federal minimum wage to $17/hr.

The only way to combat Inflation is to Inflate Wages.
This is known.

Posted by: garrett at October 21, 2024 03:32 PM (K5Wdc)

252 What I would expect is that those Iranian agents get involved in lethal everyday accidents!

Posted by: Ciampino - It's non-unprecedented at October 21, 2024 03:28 PM (qfLjt)

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What's Hebrew for Arkancides?

Posted by: ShainS -- Musk May be The X-Factor in Overcoming Fraud at October 21, 2024 03:32 PM (njz/M)

253 We need to raise the federal minimum wage to $17/hr.

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I'll see your $17 and raise $25¡

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 21, 2024 03:33 PM (L/fGl)

254 I may be terribly disappointed in two weeks, but
STEINER WILL COME

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 21, 2024 03:33 PM (W/c5U)

255 We need to raise the federal minimum wage to $17/hr.

-
I'll see your $17 and raise $25¡
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 21, 2024 03:33 PM (L/fGl)

1 BLLION DOLLARS

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 21, 2024 03:33 PM (CIS44)

256 Posted by: Auspex at October 21, 2024 03:29 PM (j4U/Z)

I find it difficult to speculate how Gerald and Betty Ford would vote now; It's such a different word than even when Gerry Ford died.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2024 03:33 PM (MQJVv)

257 During desert storm (or one of those wars), the US military leaked a lie to the US media that the entire 7th Cavalry Division was bogged up in a sand storm and told them not to tell anyone. The media, anxious to embarrass the military, told the entire world including Iraq. There was a couple of days of piling on by the world media only to have thousands of US tanks show up in Baghdad "unexpectedly".

Israel is probably playing the same game here. Tell the Biden/Harris administration, let them leak it. Wait for Iran to react, then go forward with the real plan.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 21, 2024 03:33 PM (SNu9D)

258 Wouldn't it be wild if Trump took NY? That may sound impossible, but Zeldin "lost" to Hochul by only a few (potentially fake) percent in 2022. We use Dominion machines here. If Dominion is cyberattacked, we may find out just how "blue" NY is.
Posted by: MrExcitement at October 21, 2024 03:13 PM (hOOi9)

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I think internal polling is telling them every state is in play. It would explain Trump rallies in blue states that are hugely attended.

Posted by: Decaf at October 21, 2024 03:34 PM (unUNN)

259 To answer the question on everyone's minds: No, Joe Biden does not have a doctorate in foreign affairs.

He's just the fucking good.

Seems like Master Bates got his degree in Foreign Policy from the Onan Institute. Lots of fapping goin' on in that answer.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2024 03:34 PM (ynpvh)

260 hasten to remind you morons Jonathan Pollard leaked God knows what to Israel for years and Israel didn't bother telling us what he was doing.

And after he did his 25 years in FedPen Israel pensioned him to Israel.
Posted by: torabora at October 21, 2024 03:19 PM (f3C/k

This is true but I don’t think there is a reasonable comparison in that I don’t think Israel gave that info with our shared enemies.

That said , I’m not apologizing for Israel and Pollard. He should have served his full sentence.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 21, 2024 03:34 PM (D6PGr)

261 Wow. On the first day of early voting. These aren't polls. These are votes.

>@EricLDaugh
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>1m
🚨 BREAKING: Florida voting has officially FLIPPED away from Democrats, who held a 7-point mail-in advantage until early voting began today.

>Republicans have made up record ground and have so far out-voted Democrats today by 26.7 points!

Posted by: JackStraw at October 21, 2024 03:34 PM (LkLld)

262 The only way to combat Inflation is to Inflate Wages.
This is known.

Posted by: garrett at October 21, 2024 03:32 PM (K5Wdc)

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It also decreases unemployment, comrade!

Posted by: ShainS -- Musk May be The X-Factor in Overcoming Fraud at October 21, 2024 03:34 PM (njz/M)

263 As a side note, the National Geographic Intelligence Agency keeps track of the countries where the women are topless

Posted by: azjaeger at October 21, 2024 03:35 PM (S8VqM)

264 252 Bernie Sanders
@BernieSanders
Yesterday Donald Trump did 15 minutes of work at McDonald’s, where tens of thousands of employees earn starvation wages.

But when asked whether we need to raise the $7.25 minimum wage, he refused to comment.

I will comment. We need to raise the federal minimum wage to $17/hr.
Posted by: Mister Ghost

McDonald's wages are not supposed to support you in adulthood or support a family. McDonald's is a job for kids in high school and perhaps college kids between semesters.

Get an education. Learn a trade. That's how you support yourself and a family.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 21, 2024 03:32 PM (yWv01)

Folks like Bernie will have no comment when fast food joints automate to eliminate any many workers as possible or just go out of business. No comment beyond shouting, "Wreckers!"

Posted by: I Only Like Candidates With Both Eyes at October 21, 2024 03:35 PM (90qrx)

265 262 Wow. On the first day of early voting. These aren't polls. These are votes.

>@EricLDaugh
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>1m
🚨 BREAKING: Florida voting has officially FLIPPED away from Democrats, who held a 7-point mail-in advantage until early voting began today.

>Republicans have made up record ground and have so far out-voted Democrats today by 26.7 points!
Posted by: JackStraw at October 21, 2024 03:34 PM (LkLld)

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25% of Republicans are voting for Harris because Trump said pussy, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 21, 2024 03:35 PM (GBKbO)

266 Comrade Bernie, which of your three luxurious dachas were you at when you posted that?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 21, 2024 03:36 PM (PiwSw)

267 Nood young males

Posted by: Tim Walz at October 21, 2024 03:36 PM (i24o9)

268 Of course there should be no minimum wage. Let the market determine the wage.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 21, 2024 03:36 PM (D6PGr)

269 Oh, sure, it'll help in closer races, closing that 1500 vote gap out of a million on election day, but overall? If the people willing to vote for your party aren't enthused enough to just register on their own, then GOTV isn't going to materially affect that problem.

Essentially, "enthusiasm" wins. So, how do you measure it?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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It makes a difference. But, you can't do it via adverts, mailers, and radio/tv ads. Best activators are friends and family, then people you know in the neighborhood, etc. But pestering people to vote by personal contact does work demonstrably in actual studies. Yale has some guys interested in political mobilization and they came up with a bag of things that increase motivation for contacted people to go to the polls.

Reason GOP campaign consultants hate it is because they would rather collect fat commissions on ad placement, mailers, and those damn robocalls which was over 15-20 percent last time I checked. GOTV commission was 5-10 percent range and much clearer metrics whether or not the consultant was actually doing their job. Consultants are also by and large of the ruling class and dislike dealing with plebes.

Posted by: whig at October 21, 2024 03:36 PM (ctrM5)

270 260 During desert storm (or one of those wars), the US military leaked a lie to the US media that the entire 7th Cavalry Division was bogged up in a sand storm and told them not to tell anyone. The media, anxious to embarrass the military, told the entire world including Iraq. There was a couple of days of piling on by the world media only to have thousands of US tanks show up in Baghdad "unexpectedly".

Israel is probably playing the same game here. Tell the Biden/Harris administration, let them leak it. Wait for Iran to react, then go forward with the real plan.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 21, 2024 03:33 PM (SNu9D)

That puts too much confidence in the abilities of our Gov't. Now, if you said Israel misinformed the US...that I can believe; those in the bureaucracy cannot be trusted with anything. Hell, some of them lost their dicks.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2024 03:36 PM (ynpvh)

271
Folks like Bernie will have no comment when fast food joints automate to eliminate any many workers as possible or just go out of business. No comment beyond shouting, "Wreckers!"
Posted by: I Only Like Candidates With Both Eyes at October 21, 2024 03:35 PM (90qrx)

It's like they don't even know California currently exists.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 21, 2024 03:36 PM (Zz0t1)

272 I had forgotten about Jonathan Pollard. He was from South Bend, Indiana, so it was a big story in the Michiana area at the time.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 21, 2024 03:36 PM (v6JzV)

273 Fuck Pollard. He should be swinging from a tree, along with whomever leaked this information. I don’t think people outside the loop realize what a serious threat this is to our national security. It means people at the very top of our government have committed and overtly treasonous act.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 21, 2024 03:37 PM (jxyod)

274 261 Wow. On the first day of early voting. These aren't polls. These are votes.

>@EricLDaugh
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>1m
🚨 BREAKING: Florida voting has officially FLIPPED away from Democrats, who held a 7-point mail-in advantage until early voting began today.

>Republicans have made up record ground and have so far out-voted Democrats today by 26.7 points!

Posted by: JackStraw at October 21, 2024 03:34 PM (LkLld)

Early voting started today...so what votes were they counting that came in BEFORE that?...I assume absentee, but I dunno...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2024 03:37 PM (ynpvh)

275 269 It makes a difference. But, you can't do it via adverts, mailers, and radio/tv ads. Best activators are friends and family, then people you know in the neighborhood, etc. But pestering people to vote by personal contact does work demonstrably in actual studies. Yale has some guys interested in political mobilization and they came up with a bag of things that increase motivation for contacted people to go to the polls.

Reason GOP campaign consultants hate it is because they would rather collect fat commissions on ad placement, mailers, and those damn robocalls which was over 15-20 percent last time I checked. GOTV commission was 5-10 percent range and much clearer metrics whether or not the consultant was actually doing their job. Consultants are also by and large of the ruling class and dislike dealing with plebes.
Posted by: whig at October 21, 2024 03:36 PM (ctrM5)

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I would say your idealized model of GOTV is essentially just natural enthusiasm.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 21, 2024 03:37 PM (GBKbO)

276 Jeez! I knew Cuba was troubled but . . .

I Meme Therefore I Am @ImMeme0
Someone should ask Mark Cuban why Dirk Nowitzki’s ‘brother’ filed a lawsuit against him, alleging that during a drunken night, Mark made an inappropriate move on him and claimed that Barack Obama was born in Kenya.
“[Marc Cuban] He put his tongue in my ear, and put his hands down my pants. I jumped up humiliated and told him I’m not gay.”
“Cuban and Barack went into the Oval Office, and Cuban told me that Barack told Cuban that he was not a U.S. citizen, but in fact born in Kenya.”

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 21, 2024 03:37 PM (L/fGl)

277 McDonald's, outside of management or franchise ownership, is NOT a f*cking family raising career, you ignorant douchenozzle. It's a STEPPING STONE to get you out of the low wage, low skilled labor world.

Why won't you have a debilitating cardiac event?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 21, 2024 03:30 PM (Zz0t1)

McDonald's you could go to ANY of them and get incredible service, now not so much. Chic Fil a reminds me of what McDonald's use to run like

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at October 21, 2024 03:37 PM (FCrpy)

278 274 Early voting started today...so what votes were they counting that came in BEFORE that?...I assume absentee, but I dunno...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 21, 2024 03:37 PM (ynpvh)

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FL has robust mail in voting allowances.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 21, 2024 03:38 PM (GBKbO)

279 Powerline has their first mid-week Week-in-Pictures.

https://tinyurl.com/5868ba6j

An it's glorious.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice
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OMG Trump was not wearing a hair net. Call the Health Dept.!

Posted by: wth at October 21, 2024 03:38 PM (v0R5T)

280 🚨 BREAKING: Florida voting has officially FLIPPED away from Democrats, who held a 7-point mail-in advantage until early voting began today.

Republicans have made up record ground and have so far out-voted Democrats today by 26.7 points!

Posted by: JackStraw at October 21, 2024 03:34 PM (LkLld)

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Epic. From other anecdotal evidence, this appears to be a trend in numerous states this far.

Posted by: ShainS -- Musk May be The X-Factor in Overcoming Fraud at October 21, 2024 03:38 PM (njz/M)

281 re 265: then we can have the gov't create millions of high paying union jobs repaving roads with solar panels

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 21, 2024 03:38 PM (CWTWj)

282 Raising the minimum wage is the free taxable covid check of chocolate rations.

Posted by: Sifty at October 21, 2024 03:39 PM (HLhhE)

283 Bernie's an effing liar, always.

>Minimum Wage for Federal Contracts Covered by Executive Order 14026, Notice of Rate Change in Effect as of January 1, 2025
A Notice by the Wage and Hour Division on 09/30/2024

"The Executive Order 14026 minimum wage is currently $17.20 per hour. The Department announced this rate on September 28, 2023, and it took effect on January 1, 2024. See88 FR 66906. Sep 30, 2024"
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> In the United States, 95% of McDonald's restaurants are franchises. Worldwide, 93% of McDonald's restaurants are franchises.

Pay is dependent on job and location.
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Ask Bernie and his people about the workplace injury/illness stats. Surprise! Most are related to federal workplaces.

And just wait for those ridiculous Heat Stress programs to kick in. No one will be working a McD's frier.

Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at October 21, 2024 03:39 PM (NFX2v)

284 Those Powerline memes need to be chiseled on Mt. Rushmore.

Posted by: Sifty at October 21, 2024 03:40 PM (HLhhE)

285 Nood.

NYT....Harris losing males....

Posted by: Stateless at October 21, 2024 03:40 PM (jvJvP)

286 I find it difficult to speculate how Gerald and Betty Ford would vote now; It's such a different word than even when Gerry Ford died.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2024 03:33 PM (MQJVv)

You don't have to speculate. Betty was publicly pro abortion and Jerry picked Jimmah Cahtah to come here to deliver his eulogy.

Posted by: Auspex at October 21, 2024 03:40 PM (j4U/Z)

287 "Leaked", heh.

BTW, this is why Trump is refusing to take part in the intel briefings, cause you can bet your ass they would be blaming him for the 'leak'.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 21, 2024 03:40 PM (/lPRQ)

288 Only Communists Care about Cuba

Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2024 03:42 PM (fwDg9)

289 The composite of information leaked by the USG, perfect in its random incompleteness, will have Iran's military leaders chasing their tails.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 21, 2024 03:42 PM (bhSZH)

290 AOC's a bit to quiet, as are a few other Latino, hispanic lawmakers. Something's up.
Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at October 21, 2024 03:18 PM (NFX2v)

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I believe she and the other squad members have been told to shut up. They were driving people to the Republican side.

Posted by: Decaf at October 21, 2024 03:42 PM (unUNN)

291 The Deep State would like to hang espionage on Trump and Russia

Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2024 03:43 PM (fwDg9)

292 McD's was perfect for senior citizens & those with disability receiving the floor of social security and/or other benefits. In addition to useful work, it afforded them good social networks - and the salaries received did not affect their other pay/benefits.

That was taken from those in the name of CRT/DEI or whatever and replaced with the 'working wage" whining. They're the ones suffering in this country, but who cares?

Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at October 21, 2024 03:46 PM (NFX2v)

293 Bernie Sanders
@BernieSanders
Yesterday Donald Trump did 15 minutes of work at McDonald’s, where tens of thousands of employees earn starvation wages.

But when asked whether we need to raise the $7.25 minimum wage, he refused to comment.

I will comment. We need to raise the federal minimum wage to $17/hr.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 21, 2024 03:27 PM (TGPs7)

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Bernie, perhaps your party shouldn't have jacked up the cost of living.

Posted by: Decaf at October 21, 2024 03:48 PM (unUNN)

294 re 265: then we can have the gov't create millions of high paying union jobs repaving roads with solar panels

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 21, 2024 03:38 PM (CWTWj)

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The Road to Cell" is paved with solar panels.

Posted by: ShainS -- Musk May be The X-Factor in Overcoming Fraud at October 21, 2024 03:48 PM (njz/M)

295 AOC is always out there.

Berks Weekly
AOC, Houlahan, and Democratic leaders rally voters in Reading
By Jason Hugg, October 21, 2024, 9:49 am

That's Reading, PA in Berks County (Taylor, Fetterman county).

Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at October 21, 2024 03:49 PM (NFX2v)

296 "Leaked", heh.

BTW, this is why Trump is refusing to take part in the intel briefings, cause you can bet your ass they would be blaming him for the 'leak'.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 21, 2024 03:40 PM (/lPRQ)

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Not to mention arresting, indicting, & imprisoning him for violating The Hatch and Logan Acts.

/only half-joking

Posted by: ShainS -- Musk May be The X-Factor in Overcoming Fraud at October 21, 2024 03:52 PM (njz/M)

297 NOOD

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 21, 2024 03:52 PM (FnneF)

298 name it the Generation Z Compact
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Because Hitler Youth was already taken...

Posted by: FFS people at October 21, 2024 03:53 PM (h1PXw)

299 I would say your idealized model of GOTV is essentially just natural enthusiasm.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Not so. I base my opinions on a pretty good handle on empirical voting and mobilization research and personal experience from working in campaigns for about fourteen years or so until I went to grad school.

After that, I have only done such at the community level to oppose developers trying to turn my part of the county ugly.

I can give you a solid critique of your model if you wish but not within the confines of the gray boxes.

Posted by: whig at October 21, 2024 03:55 PM (ctrM5)

300 258 Wouldn't it be wild if Trump took NY? That may sound impossible, but Zeldin "lost" to Hochul by only a few (potentially fake) percent in 2022. We use Dominion machines here. If Dominion is cyberattacked, we may find out just how "blue" NY is.
Posted by: MrExcitement at October 21, 2024 03:13 PM (hOOi9)

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I think internal polling is telling them every state is in play. It would explain Trump rallies in blue states that are hugely attended.
Posted by: Decaf at October 21, 2024 03:34 PM (unUNN)

Indeed!

Well, Trump DID say he "won every state" last time.

I keep thinking back to how even MY county in Upstate NY was colored "red" (as in "pretty bad") in Seth Keshel's statistical analysis of election integrity. Almost our entire county legislature is R. We undoubtedly went for Trump in 2020, but who knows if the margin was understated, to help make nationwide popular vote totals look better.

Posted by: MrExcitement at October 21, 2024 03:59 PM (hOOi9)

301 Look at the agencies involved the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency. The first is looking at certain IDF jets on certain runways (not necessarily even in Israel) and second is analyzing what kind of payload that jet can carry to such and such target. This isn’t information that Israel “shared”. This is aerial reconnaissance just like in WWII but with _much_ better optics (think better than Rayleigh limit since not using classical optics plus guide star tech to remove atmospheric scintillation).

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at October 21, 2024 04:02 PM (ZVgZ4)

302 Well, I am sure that Iran and Hezbollah appreciated the detailed updating of their targeting coordinates.

Yes, truly a hanging offense. We may need to extradite them to Israel, but that's a minor detail.

Posted by: Jimmy Doolittle at October 21, 2024 04:32 PM (lNVhF)

303 Israel didn't tell the Biden admin about the explosive telephones so why say anything about a strike on Iran?

Posted by: I'll take fries with that burger at October 21, 2024 04:53 PM (Uy/WF)

304 Unfortunately, the American government has developed a habit of treating enemies like friends and their actual allies like disposable subordinates.

Maybe it's because the USA was the only game in town for a long time, but adversaries are spending a lot of time and money to try and change that and the USA is going to need friends.

It's difficult to recover from that reputation.
I think if I was Israel, or Taiwan or Korea or Japan or the UK etc, I would be looking to, firstly invest more in their armed forces and homegrown capabilities and secondly invest in mutual bilateral defensive ties with the explicit exclusion of America.

That might benefit the USA too, more than anything.

Posted by: stv at October 21, 2024 09:26 PM (R9gNI)

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