THE MORNING RANT: Periodic Aviation Thread - 10/25/2024<br><i>[Roger Ball]</i>

THE MORNING RANT: Periodic Aviation Thread - 10/25/2024
[Roger Ball]

BOOM

[Note: It’s an honor to fill in for Buck Throckmorton this morning. Wish him safe travels.]

Wide selection aviation buffet (any definition will do) today. Pick your post.

GO INSIDE THE COCKPIT for a pilot’s eye view of XB-1’s fourth test flight, narrated by Chief Flight Test Engineer Nick Sheryka. Listen in on the comms between Chief Test Pilot Tristan “Geppetto” Brandenburg, the control room, chase plane, and tower from takeoff to touchdown.

You won't want to watch the whole thinng unless you're a geek, but I applaud the BOOM supersonic team and wish them all success as they safely pursue their development and test program.

If you ever watched The Right Stuff, however bad the movie made it look, it was worse. Sayings like “One a day into Tampa Bay” are usually based on hard experience and blood.

…but new trainees at home had serious problems and there were numerous accidents, causing the Marauder to earn such epithets as "The Flying Prostitute", "The Baltimore Whore", "The Flying Vagrant", or "The Wingless Wonder", these names being given because the B-26's small wing area appeared to give it no visible means of support. Other derisive names being given to the B-26 were "The Widow Maker", "One-Way Ticket", "Martin Murderer", "The Flying Coffin", "The Coffin Without Handles", and the "B-Dash Crash". In particular, there were so many takeoff accidents at MacDill Field during early 1942 that the phrase "One a Day into Tampa Bay" came to be a commonplace lament.

One of the most famous Navy design disasters was the Vought F-7U Cutlass. Yes, that same Vought aircraft company that designed the awesome Corsair. But the Cutlass was designed during the unique time in history when there was still stiff competition among numerous aircraft manufacturers, and aviation was transitioning from props to jets. Added to the challenge was that the engines were not very powerful and the designers were still figuring out high speed flight. Radical envelope bending and expansion was all the rage, and it was mostly done with slide rules, ing tables and wind tunnels. No “floating point computation” for those manly engineers! Sometimes it worked and sometimes, like the Cutlass and others, it didn’t.

More than one-fourth of the 300-plus airframes built were destroyed in accidents, many of which were attributed to unreliable engines that generated insufficient thrust. In the end, the F7U would cost the Navy four test pilots, and 21 regular pilots killed, earning it such uncomplimentary nicknames as “Gutless Cutlass” and “Ensign Eliminator.” Yet in the hands of a skilled pilot who was aware of its limitations, the sweptwing jet performed well, and some suggested that its failings could have been overcome with additional developmental work, as would be the case with Vought’s F8U Crusader.

I’m sure many of the HORDE have seen the famous ramp strike on the USS Hancock (CVA-19) in 1955?

It’s a little grainy, but did you notice the “fastest LSO in the West”, running across the landing area in front of the crashing jet?
You get a good view in the video above at about 1:00.

The LSO made it. The pilot didn’t. Interestingly, my college English teacher was a Cutlass survivor. He chain smoked and drank a lot. I couldn’t explain that at the time.

The current aviation safety rate is figured on incidents per 100,000 flight hours. If fatal accidents get above about 0.50 then companies, the FAA and the NTSB start looking at what’s going wrong. One problem is that airplanes carry so many people now, so a major accident with fatalities will be hundreds of people. Also, there are just a lot of flights. In the years after World War II, the military (at least the Navy) measured the rate in incidents per 10,000 flight hours. If they could keep it less than 10.0, they would be happy. Commercial aviation of course was much better, but the planes were smaller, and the number of flights was much less than today.

Speaking of accident rates and, implicitly, survival, have you ever heard the story of The Indestructible Alkemade? One minute, Nicholas is a tail gunner in a Lancaster, 18000 feet and…

Three hours later, Alkemade opened his eyes. He was lying on snowy ground in a small pine wood. Above him the stars were still visible, only this time they were framed by the edges of the hole he had smashed through the tree canopy. Assessing himself, Alkemade found that he was remarkably intact. In addition to the burns and cuts to the head and thigh, all received in the aircraft, he was suffering only bruising and a twisted knee. Not a single bone had been broken or even fractured. Both of his flying boots had disappeared, probably torn from his feet as he unconsciously struck the tree branches. Being of no further use, Alkemade discarded his parachute harness in the snow.

Is that crazy or what?

Speaking of survival, General Aviation lent huge support to the folks in the North Carolina counties devastated by Hurricane HELENE. While scores of small privately owned aircraft and helicopters brought in supplies and brought out survivors, several venerable DC-3/C-47s did the “heavy” lifting.

Here’s a nicely done video by the non-profit Warbid South Flying Museum taking their DC-3C to the disaster area. You’re not going to want to watch the whole thing but, if nothing else, just listen to those Pratt & Whitney 1830s purr. (Note, they took off from runway 6 at Northeast Alabama Regional (KGAD)).

If you don’t watch anything at all, at least watch them land on runway 12 at Banner Elk/Elk River, North Carolina (NC06) (Sorry about the ads. I don't know how to yeet them from the clip.). Here is the you tube clip. The runway’s plenty long enough at 4600 feet but a little narrow at 75 feet. Plus, there are lots of trees and hills. The river is to the right of the frame, but you can see the mud on the left side of the runway, so the airport was completely covered at some point. As of Monday, NC-194was still marked as closed. You won’t see any big cargo airplanes doing that, I can guarantee you.

I’m guessing the golf course is going to need some work.

I’ve known about the IDITAROD since I was a little guy. The wife of one of my dad’s wartime buddies raised Huskies and raced the IDITAROD numerous times. (She was also a little weird.) What I did not know about, until I got my AOPA magazine, was the IDITAROD AIR FORCE. Now that right there is some manly flying!

From a logistical viewpoint, the Iditarod Sled Dog Race is dependent upon the IAF, a group of volunteer pilots who freely give up their time, use their own planes, and share their years of experience. The IAF accomplishes MANY things:
• delivering supplies and goods to all of the checkpoints
• transporting people to and from all of the checkpoints
• picking up and transporting return dogs
• and, consistently ensuring that all passengers are safe

AOPA even made a video about it (18 minutes). Oh, and lots of doggehs!

Finally, I’ve been working on a corollary to Buck Throckmorton’s First Law of Live Music. Buck’s theorem: “If There’s an Upright Bass in the Band, It’s Probably Going to be Good”. So, I offer the “RBall Corollary to the First Law: If There’s an Upright Bass and a Banjo in the Band, It’s Going to Sound Like ‘Merica!”. (I know it opens with a mandolin, but anyway.)

By the way, did you notice the slide guitar? Check out one of my favorites with Jackson Brown and slide master Greg Leisz.

Keep the blue side up, HORDE!
Roger, out.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 10:59 AM

Comments

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1 Today is St. Crispin's Day.

Years from now, those who were not here will hold their Moronhood cheap.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 25, 2024 10:59 AM (a3Q+t)

2 Podium

Posted by: Skip at October 25, 2024 11:00 AM (D6aGE)

3 Corgis notified.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 25, 2024 11:00 AM (a3Q+t)

4 Top gun!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 25, 2024 11:01 AM (scDBq)

5 It's about fucking time we got back to our "smart military blog" roots.

Posted by: jwest at October 25, 2024 11:01 AM (VP9ao)

6 Yeah, but birds aren't real.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 11:01 AM (GBKbO)

7 Here's to the men with the crew cuts, the short-sleeve dress shirts and the plastic pocket protectors.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 25, 2024 11:01 AM (muwun)

8 th!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 25, 2024 11:01 AM (Wnv9h)

9 Willowed:

Remember the 'Hatfield versus McCoy' famous feud? In 'Hillbilly Elegy' writes that part of his family was on one side or the other.

I forget which. I wonder if the feud is still ongoing?
Posted by: Civic Classifier

No. Now they've turned it into a huge annual family reunion for both sides. Many cross family marriages have resulted.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 25, 2024 11:02 AM (ahlZZ)

10 Here's to the men with the crew cuts, the short-sleeve dress shirts and the plastic pocket protectors.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 25, 2024 11:01 AM

What are we, chopped liver?

Posted by: Sliderules at October 25, 2024 11:02 AM (a3Q+t)

11 K will watch these when I get home
Last weekend watched for first time Top Gun Maverick
60yo guys just wouldn't cut it as high atmosphere test pilots

Posted by: Skip at October 25, 2024 11:02 AM (D6aGE)

12 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 11:02 AM (Zz0t1)

13 SPONGE!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 25, 2024 11:02 AM (xcxpd)

14
Boston Radio Watch®️
@bostonradio
28 years ago tonight, October 25, 1996, Steve’s ventriloquist dummy, Stevil, came to life and terrorized the Winslows on ABC’s “Family Matters”. 🎃

https://tinyurl.com/4n7nfm2e

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 25, 2024 11:02 AM (TGPs7)

15 >>> 1 Today is St. Crispin's Day.

Years from now, those who were not here will hold their Moronhood cheap.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 25, 2024 10:59 AM (a3Q+t)

Silly Duncanthrax.

Those who miss next year's Tenth TX Mo Mee will hold their Moronhood cheap.

If I win the lottery, what plane should I select to fly Morons to TX???

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 25, 2024 11:02 AM (FnneF)

16 What a nice change of pace.

Nicely done, sir.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 11:03 AM (Zz0t1)

17 No. Now they've turned it into a huge annual family reunion for both sides. Many cross family marriages have resulted.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices

I think they were intermarrying even while the feud was going on. That served to exacerbate things.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 25, 2024 11:03 AM (v6JzV)

18 If you like planes, then you should really check out the National Air and Space Museum Annex in Dulles, VA.

It's so huge -- it's amazing. They have a space shuttle in the small end of the building(!)!! There are two levels of elevated walkways where you can view the various aircraft from above.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 25, 2024 11:03 AM (scDBq)

19 1 Today is St. Crispin's Day.

Years from now, those who were not here will hold their Moronhood cheap.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 25, 2024 10:59 AM (a3Q+t)

=======

So, we're all meeting in Agincourt?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 11:03 AM (GBKbO)

20 >>> 6 Yeah, but birds aren't real.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 11:01 AM (GBKbO)

"Kiss my fluffy ass." -- Bluebell the hen, probably

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 25, 2024 11:03 AM (FnneF)

21 You would think that after decades of experience and experimentation with jet aircraft of all configurations, the aviation world would have arrived at an optimal fighter-interceptor design that everyone would use with only slight variations.

It doesn't seem to be the case.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 25, 2024 11:04 AM (muwun)

22 Here's to the men with the crew cuts, the short-sleeve dress shirts and the plastic pocket protectors.
Posted by: Cicero

Gene Kranz, phone call for a Mr. Gene Kranz. Please pick up on the white courtesy phone. Mr. Kranz, phone call on the white courtesy phone.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 25, 2024 11:04 AM (ahlZZ)

23 My dad was a KC-135 pilot for many years. I recall a video that talked about how dangerous it was to operate. His response. "Hm. Yeah, I guess it was."

Posted by: NR Pax at October 25, 2024 11:04 AM (lXoJ5)

24 If you like planes, then you should really check out the National Air and Space Museum Annex in Dulles, VA.

It's so huge -- it's amazing. They have a space shuttle in the small end of the building(!)!! There are two levels of elevated walkways where you can view the various aircraft from above.
Posted by: Lizzy

But be warned: They charge $12 for parking.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 25, 2024 11:04 AM (v6JzV)

25 Look at this clip from JD Vance. (On Hugh Hewitt, starts at about 7 minutes)

https://tinyurl.com/wf342m6f

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 25, 2024 11:05 AM (gfViB)

26 >>> 24 If you like planes, then you should really check out the National Air and Space Museum Annex in Dulles, VA.

It's so huge -- it's amazing. They have a space shuttle in the small end of the building(!)!! There are two levels of elevated walkways where you can view the various aircraft from above.
Posted by: Lizzy

But be warned: They charge $12 for parking.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 25, 2024 11:04 AM (v6JzV)

Good to know. I do want to get there someday...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 25, 2024 11:06 AM (FnneF)

27 >>Yeah, but birds aren't real.

I know, right? Who invented me -- a clown?!?

Posted by: The Wood Duck at October 25, 2024 11:06 AM (scDBq)

28 If I win the lottery, what plane should I select to fly Morons to TX???
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 25, 2024

***
One of those DC-3s looks like a good choice!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 25, 2024 11:06 AM (J2vNu)

29 You would think that after decades of experience and experimentation with jet aircraft of all configurations, the aviation world would have arrived at an optimal fighter-interceptor design that everyone would use with only slight variations.

It doesn't seem to be the case.

There are many planes now that are only airworthy due to computer software. Otherwise, they have the characteristics of a brick.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 25, 2024 11:06 AM (xCA6C)

30 Those who miss next year's Tenth TX Mo Mee will hold their Moronhood cheap.

If I win the lottery, what plane should I select to fly Morons to TX???
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

Since they can take off and land, do it in style. Use one of Musk's rockets.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 25, 2024 11:06 AM (ahlZZ)

31 27 >>Yeah, but birds aren't real.

I know, right? Who invented me -- a clown?!?
Posted by: The Wood Duck at October 25, 2024 11:06 AM (scDBq)

=======

"We got moved to trees and shrubs after that."
-The Time Bandits

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 11:06 AM (GBKbO)

32 >>But be warned: They charge $12 for parking.

But the museum is still free, right?

Posted by: The Wood Duck at October 25, 2024 11:06 AM (scDBq)

33 14
‘ Stevil, came to life and terrorized the Winslows on ABC’s “Family Matters”.’

And Stevil would go on to become the 44th president of the United States where he would terrorize millions more.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 25, 2024 11:06 AM (jbnUc)

34 While scores of small privately owned aircraft and helicopters brought in supplies and brought out survivors, several venerable DC-3/C-47s did the “heavy” lifting.

I have always wanted to fly in one of those. There used to be a charter flight from Anchorage to Kenai that had one, but you could never tell what day it would fly.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 25, 2024 11:08 AM (lTGtQ)

35 My grandfather drove C-47s into Normandy, dropping the 101st into the fight.

I built his exact plane for my dad this past Christmas. I loved getting to put my talents to use for something so personal.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at October 25, 2024 11:08 AM (A0ECY)

36 https://airandspace.si.edu/visit/udvar-hazy-center

Posted by: The Wood Duck at October 25, 2024 11:09 AM (scDBq)

37 Just boarded a Delta plane to fly to Atlanta. Oh the “glamour” of commercial flights. Delta has bad habit of stopping carryon luggage with plenty of bins still empty.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at October 25, 2024 11:09 AM (xzrfl)

38 I remember when they flew the shuttle to the A&S Museum. It was a big deal here in NoVa. Everybody went out to watch.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 25, 2024 11:09 AM (v6JzV)

39 I used to see DC-3s in all sorts of movie on the Late Shows when I was a kid. To me, that plane epitomizes the adventure of flying.

What sort of plane was Sky King's "Songbird"?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 25, 2024 11:10 AM (J2vNu)

40 Today is St. Crispin's Day.

Years from now, those who were not here will hold their Moronhood cheap.
Posted by: Duncanthrax

I had to drive through a bad section of town on Wednesday, and saw a guy holding his manhood, right there in public.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 25, 2024 11:10 AM (lTGtQ)

41 ‘ Stevil, came to life and terrorized the Winslows on ABC’s “Family Matters”.’

Steve Darnell of Welderup fame in Las Vegas was a huge fan of Evel Knievel. So much so, his friends nicknamed him "Stevil Darnevil."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 11:10 AM (Zz0t1)

42 The slide guitar player in that JB video has it going on. Always loved that type of guitar. Bye-the-way, JB lookw like an old man, which means I’m an old…….never mind.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at October 25, 2024 11:11 AM (t+UCj)

43 If you want to get super-nerdy about the B-26, Greg from Greg's Airplanes and Automobiles YouTube channel has a lengthy and interesting video about it:

https://youtu.be/syL8xXEQTW4

Posted by: spindrift at October 25, 2024 11:11 AM (OguvZ)

44 Here's to the men with the crew cuts, the short-sleeve dress shirts and the plastic pocket protectors.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 25, 2024 11:01 AM

What are we, chopped liver?
Posted by: Sliderules at October 25, 2024 11:02 AM (a3Q+t)

My Grandpa. He was a machinist, a draftsman, and an engineer. He worked for Boeing when they were great, and NASA during the Appollo missions. His formal education involved classes specific to whatever he intended on mastering. Never had a degree. Built B-29s during WWII.

and he loved Looney Tunes.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Balding American at October 25, 2024 11:11 AM (xPJvm)

45 Did the NY Post endorse Trump in 2016 or 2020?

Posted by: Shenanigans at October 25, 2024 11:11 AM (pZ0Mr)

46 Breaking — Judge orders Virginia to stop removing noncitizens from voter rolls.

Posted by: It's happening at October 25, 2024 11:11 AM (hvsSs)

47 I flew in a DC-3 as a commercial passenger. It was kind of strange to be sitting at an angle, waiting for takeoff. The seat was comfortable, too.

Posted by: mrp at October 25, 2024 11:11 AM (rj6Yv)

48 Naval aviation is entirely too dangerous. Don't recommend.

Posted by: Kara Hultgreen at October 25, 2024 11:12 AM (nS6qG)

49 You would think that after decades of experience and experimentation with jet aircraft of all configurations, the aviation world would have arrived at an optimal fighter-interceptor design that everyone would use with only slight variations.

It doesn't seem to be the case.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 25, 2024 11:04 AM (muwun)

You mean like how all cars now look like Ford Tauruses, Mazda MPV vans or Toyota pickups?

Posted by: Kindltot at October 25, 2024 11:12 AM (D7oie)

50 But be warned: They charge $12 for parking.

But the museum is still free, right?
Posted by: The Wood Duck at October 25, 2024 11:06 AM (scDBq)

I remember watching a PBS pledge drive or something where you could join some club for the arts for $50 and get a "free" jacket.

The phrase "FREE, for fifty dollars" was launched.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 11:12 AM (Zz0t1)

51 Nice thread!

Luckily I've ridden in a DC-3 twice. Once in the Great White North, a Canadian Forces plane modified for radar training. From Edmonton to Cold Lake. Pilots told me the plane had been sold to Honduras, then *bought back* 20 years later. Gotta love this plane and its longevity.

Second time was in a refurbed DC-3, very modern and nice. From a small airfield in South Africa to mumble mumble somewhere else in the region, very low, which allowed sightseeing of big wildlife below.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2024 11:12 AM (GcNJ2)

52 Breaking — Judge orders Virginia to stop removing noncitizens from voter rolls.
Posted by: It's happening at October 25, 2024 11:11 AM (hvsSs)

Launch that judge into the ocean to become shark shit.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 11:12 AM (Zz0t1)

53 Just boarded a Delta plane to fly to Atlanta. Oh the “glamour” of commercial flights. Delta has bad habit of stopping carryon luggage with plenty of bins still empty.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken

Don't they have a habit of slapping the snot out of passengers?

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 25, 2024 11:13 AM (ahlZZ)

54 If I win the lottery, what plane should I select to fly Morons to TX???
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

Trump Force 1!

Posted by: Piper at October 25, 2024 11:13 AM (/sySz)

55 Breaking — Judge orders Virginia to stop removing noncitizens from voter rolls.
Posted by: It's happening at October 25, 2024 11:11 AM (hvsSs)

Launch that judge into the ocean to become shark shit.
Posted by: Sponge

Seriously. That judge should be removed from the bench. With prejudice.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 25, 2024 11:14 AM (ahlZZ)

56 Think the F-16 was the first tactical aircraft, at least, that was unstable as designed, only flyable due to computer. First side-stick controller, too, I think. So easy even someone like me can fly it. For a while, while aloft, not landing or taking off.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2024 11:14 AM (GcNJ2)

57 Yeah, but birds aren't real.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 11:01 AM

Well, certainly not the ones in RI.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 25, 2024 11:15 AM (kgE5c)

58 46 Breaking — Judge orders Virginia to stop removing noncitizens from voter rolls.
_____

And his argument is...constitution based?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 25, 2024 11:15 AM (fs1hN)

59 I lost my mood ring. I'm not sure how I feel about that.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 25, 2024 11:15 AM (dg+HA)

60 55 Breaking — Judge orders Virginia to stop removing noncitizens from voter rolls.
Posted by: It's happening at October 25, 2024 11:11 AM (hvsSs)

=======

This combined with the GA Supreme Court upholding the Cobb County judge's ruling against half a dozen GA election board rules goes to show that the courts are still out there trying to help Democrats break laws to win elections.

A good amount has changed since 2020.

This has not changed, though. It's unfortunate.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 11:15 AM (GBKbO)

61 Breaking — Judge orders Virginia to stop removing noncitizens from voter rolls.
Posted by: It's happening at October 25, 2024 11:11 AM (hvsSs)

Launch that judge into the ocean to become shark shit.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 11:12 AM (Zz0t1

Those kind of shenanigans during early voting will only increase Trump turnout.

Posted by: mrp at October 25, 2024 11:16 AM (rj6Yv)

62 Just boarded a Delta plane to fly to Atlanta. Oh the “glamour” of commercial flights. Delta has bad habit of stopping carryon luggage with plenty of bins still empty.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken

Was booked on a Delta flight once where I missed last call but ran up as they were getting ready to close the door. They wouldn't let me board the plane. I was forced to get booked on the same flight the next day.

That flight was delayed for 20 minutes for a late arrival passenger's luggage.

When luggage is more important than your actual customers, I'm not flying you ever again.

And I haven't.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 11:16 AM (Zz0t1)

63 Breaking — Judge orders Virginia to stop removing noncitizens from voter rolls.
Posted by: It's happening

I thought this already happened and VA said nope, no can do? Or maybe this is a later development. The DOJ is also suing Alabama for the same thing. But we are really slow down here, it takes us awhile to read things, then read again, then act on it. At least I hope that is what is happening.

Posted by: Piper at October 25, 2024 11:17 AM (aT5K/)

64 I lost my mood ring. I'm not sure how I feel about that.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 25, 2024

***
My pet rock just gave birth to a litter of gravel!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 25, 2024 11:17 AM (J2vNu)

65 Judges that don't enforce the law aren't judges and should be run out of town on a rail.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 11:17 AM (Zz0t1)

66 You mean like how all cars now look like Ford Tauruses, Mazda MPV vans or Toyota pickups?
Posted by: Kindltot

Soviet Lada.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 25, 2024 11:17 AM (ahlZZ)

67 Good post Roger, thanks

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 25, 2024 11:17 AM (xcxpd)

68 58 46 Breaking — Judge orders Virginia to stop removing noncitizens from voter rolls.
_____

And his argument is...constitution based?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 25, 2024 11:15 AM (fs1hN)

=======

I haven't read it, but my educated guess is this:

DOJ rules deny states the ability to mass remove voters from voter rolls within 90 days of an election, therefore VA is not allowed to do this.

However, the problem with that conclusion is that the removals weren't mass. They were done individually, and the process that the VA law (signed by Tim Kaine himself more than a decade ago) amounts to a non-citizen self-reporting that they are not qualified to vote.

The ruling, whether it follows my guess or not, is probably really stupid and the sort of thing designed to hold things in stasis until it's too late, not actually win the argument.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 11:18 AM (GBKbO)

69 Friday morning, at the recent Texas MoMe, I heard what I thought was a truck on highway 31 and looked out from my hotel room window to see the back end of a DC-3. I saw it (or one just like it) again on Saturday morning.

I suppose he'd left Corsicana's aiport and was headed, well, east at the DC-3's natural altitude of 1000 feet.

Yesterday, the Blue Angels were practicing outside the window of my office. They're here for the big airshow this weekend.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at October 25, 2024 11:18 AM (2Insx)

70 Don't they have a habit of slapping the snot out of passengers?
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 25, 2024 11:13 AM (ahlZZ)

It is the customer training the flight attendants get that is so special, the smiling, the tone of voice . . .

youtu.be/ghiOXOndkXA

Posted by: Kindltot at October 25, 2024 11:18 AM (D7oie)

71 Breaking — Judge orders Virginia to stop removing noncitizens from voter rolls.
Posted by: It's happening

And what is the reasoning for this bullshit decision? I mean, the actual legalese argument?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 25, 2024 11:18 AM (ufFY8)

72 Soviet Lada.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 25, 2024

***
"The plumber is coming in the morning."

Posted by: Just the Punchline at October 25, 2024 11:18 AM (J2vNu)

73
Those kind of shenanigans during early voting will only increase Trump turnout.
Posted by: mrp at October 25, 2024 11:16 AM (rj6Yv)

One can only hope.

However, one must demand that such chicanery should lead to a much deeper dive into your local elections and act accordingly.

This dude should be put on trial, not judge them.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 11:19 AM (Zz0t1)

74 Just curious, *what* judge wants VA to stop removing illegal voters from its rolls? a Hawaiian judge?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 25, 2024 11:20 AM (FnneF)

75 59 I lost my mood ring. I'm not sure how I feel about that.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 25, 2024 11:15 AM (dg+HA)

snort

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 25, 2024 11:20 AM (xcxpd)

76 Think the F-16 was the first tactical aircraft, at least, that was unstable as designed, only flyable due to computer. First side-stick controller, too, I think. So easy even someone like me can fly it. For a while, while aloft, not landing or taking off.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2024 11:14 AM (GcNJ2)

I wonder how tricky it is for airline pilots who fly Airbuses and other planes with sidesticks to switch flying left-handed vs right-handed depending on which seat you're in.

Guess it can't be that big a deal, but I know I'd have issues flying left-handed the first several ... hundred ... times out.

Posted by: spindrift at October 25, 2024 11:20 AM (OguvZ)

77 59 I lost my mood ring. I'm not sure how I feel about that.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 25, 2024 11:15 AM (dg+HA)

Blue.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 25, 2024 11:21 AM (N39Ws)

78 It should also be noted that it's against VA law to knowingly place non-citizens on the voter rolls.

DOJ officials arguing the case are actually opening themselves up to legal jeopardy at the state level.

If Miyares has the balls, it could lead to some fun.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 11:21 AM (GBKbO)

79 Sister's late father in law flew B-26s in Europe. He kept a flight diary (against the rules), very brief notes on each mission, using his original basic flight training log book.

I've done some preliminary research finding his targets (sometimes he noted them specifically, like "bridge near So and So") or target areas. Hoping to do a video with maps showing his missions, with whatever info/imagery is available of his targets, for his family, and for fun.

Gonna need to spool up from a standing start on the software for such, however.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2024 11:21 AM (GcNJ2)

80 Favorite line from The Right Stuff, when Yeager strides out of the smoking wreckage

Driver: Colonel is that a... Man?
Colonel: You're damned right it is!

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov, now, where does a war hero get some lubrication around here? at October 25, 2024 11:21 AM (wBaIH)

81 Thx Roger
Kamala says she'll have a "to do list" if she's president. Why haven't she done it already ?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 25, 2024 11:21 AM (aRslG)

82
Constellation: hot babe who steals your soul.

DC-3: plain girl who cooks great and keeps house.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 25, 2024 11:21 AM (EsZUh)

83 But be warned: They charge $12 for parking.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 25, 2024 11:04 AM (v6JzV)

So, cheaper than an Embassy Suites.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 25, 2024 11:21 AM (PiwSw)

84 Breaking — Judge orders Virginia to stop removing noncitizens from voter rolls.

Posted by: It's happening at October 25, 2024 11:11 AM (hvsSs)

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The Attorney General of Virginia is Republican, right?

Arrest, prosecute, and imprison this MotherF*cker pour encourager les autres.

It's the only way -- aside from execution for seditious treason -- that this will end ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Musk May be The X-Factor in Overcoming Fraud at October 25, 2024 11:21 AM (TDdfP)

85 I lost my mood ring. I'm not sure how I feel about that.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 25, 2024 11:15 AM (dg+HA)

I tried to eat my feather comforter in my sleep last night. I feel down in the mouth

Posted by: Kindltot at October 25, 2024 11:22 AM (D7oie)

86
There was a radio station in my youth that every morning would play the audio between air traffic control and an airline pilot coming in for a landing. It took about half an hour at the same time every day so I'd set my alarm to it and imagine myself as the pilot.

Yeah, I guess that makes me a nerd.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 25, 2024 11:22 AM (MwtZ5)

87 It amazes me the amount of nothing that comes out if Kumala's pie hole when she doesn't have a cock in it.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 25, 2024 11:22 AM (ufFY8)

88 Soviet Lada.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 25, 2024

***
"Lada -- lada -- dude looks like a lady --"

Posted by: Aerosmith at October 25, 2024 11:23 AM (J2vNu)

89 Constellation: hot babe who steals your soul.

DC-3: plain girl who cooks great and keeps house.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 25, 2024 11:21 AM (EsZUh)

---------------

SR-71 Blackbird: sleek, secretive, high, and out-of-your-league.

Posted by: ShainS -- Musk May be The X-Factor in Overcoming Fraud at October 25, 2024 11:23 AM (TDdfP)

90 5 I lost my mood ring. I'm not sure how I feel about that.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 25, 2024
*
I tried to eat my feather comforter in my sleep last night. I feel down in the mouth
Posted by: Kindltot at October 25, 2024

***
I dreamed I ate a giant marshmallow. When I woke up my pillow was gone.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 25, 2024 11:24 AM (J2vNu)

91
A Roger Ball thread always makes me want to pick up "Fate is the Hunter".

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 25, 2024 11:24 AM (EsZUh)

92 Oh, and the sister's late FIL was one of the pilots of the B-26 Flak Bait, which for years had its front section prominently displayed in the WWII room at the Air & Space Museum on the Mall. Not sure if it's still there.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2024 11:24 AM (GcNJ2)

93 An interesting & diverse Morning Rant, especially nice as a lead into the weekend.

BTW your closing 'Keep the blue side up, HORDE!' was great.

Thanks.

Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at October 25, 2024 11:25 AM (NFX2v)

94 nyt/sienna just released a new national poll showing trump and harris tied. harris is done as democrats need a 3-4 point advantage to win the EC vote.

In 2020 biden was up by 8 points and went on to win the "popular vote" by 4.2 on election day.

If Trump somehow does pull out a win of the popular vote there will be lefty heads exploding all over the place.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 25, 2024 11:25 AM (QNSds)

95 If Miyares has the balls, it could lead to some fun.

Oh, he's got 'em. He knows this is how to advance his cause to higher office.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 25, 2024 11:25 AM (xCA6C)

96 Thx Roger
Kamala says she'll have a "to do list" if she's president. Why haven't she done it already ?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 25, 2024 11:21 AM (aRslG)

---------------

She's now unburdened by what might have been.

Posted by: ShainS -- Musk May be The X-Factor in Overcoming Fraud at October 25, 2024 11:25 AM (TDdfP)

97 The judge in the Virginia case , Patricia Giles , is a Biden appointee. Shocked, shocked

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 25, 2024 11:25 AM (aRslG)

98 If a state can't challenge the feds meddling in the state's elections, due to 'standing', do the remaining remedies left to the citizens of the state include tarring, feathering and running the offenders out of town on a rail?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 25, 2024 11:25 AM (fs1hN)

99 95 If Miyares has the balls, it could lead to some fun.

Oh, he's got 'em. He knows this is how to advance his cause to higher office.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 25, 2024 11:25 AM (xCA6C)

=======

We'll see.

Puffery is often enough, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 11:26 AM (GBKbO)

100 Kamala says she'll have a "to do list" if she's president. Why haven't she done it already ?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 25, 2024 11:21 AM (aRslG)

Because she's a stupid, lying sack of shit.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 11:26 AM (Zz0t1)

101 Breaking — Judge orders Virginia to stop removing noncitizens from voter rolls.

Posted by: It's happening at October 25, 2024 11:11 AM (hvsSs)
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Judges tend to f*ck us over far more than legislators do, simply because there are NO CONSEQUENCES for their actions.

The ones who cause the most trouble know they can't be removed because they are in solid blue zones and have their jobs for life, regardless of election results (if they are elected and not simply appointed).

And if they are caught doing something bad, then they know their fellow judges will let them off easy.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 25, 2024 11:26 AM (7fElN)

102 Gonna need to spool up from a standing start on the software for such, however.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2024 11:21 AM (GcNJ2)

Not necessarily.

If necessary, I do extensive research on every plane I build for a client. I've found Missing Aircraft Reports, casualty reports, POW information, et al., all the way down to specific loadouts a particular aircraft carried on a particular day.

Of great help is the Air force Historical Research Agency on board Maxwell AFB. I can provide you specific contact information if you'd like.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at October 25, 2024 11:27 AM (A0ECY)

103 >>Second time was in a refurbed DC-3, very modern and nice. From a small airfield in South Africa to mumble mumble somewhere else in the region, very low, which allowed sightseeing of big wildlife below.

One of the best flights I've ever had was from Durban to Cape Town. Don't remember what kind of plane it was but same thing, low flight over virtually the entire country of South Africa. Aside from all the problems it is a spectacularly beautiful country.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 25, 2024 11:27 AM (LkLld)

104 Kamala says she'll have a "to do list" if she's president. Why haven't she done it already ?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 25, 2024 11:21 AM (aRslG)

Because Trump has been running for three years, whatever that means.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 25, 2024 11:27 AM (muwun)

105 I'm fascinated by aviation, although I don't know much about it.

My favorite aviation moment was being on the roof of a skyscraper in Chicago during an airshow there. A B-1 flew by at eye level to me at just under the sound barrier. It was unbelievable!

Posted by: Frasier Crane at October 25, 2024 11:27 AM (bNf8H)

106 The Vought Cutlass had a bad reputation, but as an Air Force geek, I have a soft spot for the F-100 Super Sabre. I had a cousin who was a Misty in Vietnam and I never knew until after he passed.

But the F-100 was also notorious for low speed handling and being underpowered. Those were corrected in later models, but there is a film of an F-100 on the edge of a stall and the pilot trying to recover until it fell.

The F-16 now can do a low speed pass and has enough power and the stability of the fly-by-wire system to almost hover, but in those days it was truly trial and error. I kept my feet on the ground as maintenance, I don't even like getting on my RV roof.

Posted by: I M Simpleton at October 25, 2024 11:27 AM (cwq7b)

107 8 If a state can't challenge the feds meddling in the state's elections, due to 'standing', do the remaining remedies left to the citizens of the state include tarring, feathering and running the offenders out of town on a rail?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 25, 2024

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It should.

Posted by: Citizens of Any Town in Western Movies at October 25, 2024 11:27 AM (J2vNu)

108 NH is in play. Only +3 for Harris.

Posted by: mrp at October 25, 2024 11:27 AM (rj6Yv)

109 Kammie's to do list next 4 years -

1) drink wine, smoke hash and maybe snort a little coke while the country burns

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 25, 2024 11:28 AM (fs1hN)

110 Took care of my civic duty - 45 minutes from start to finish. Crowds are bigger than 2020 in my red area.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 25, 2024 11:28 AM (lTGtQ)

111 One of the best flights I've ever had was from Durban to Cape Town. Don't remember what kind of plane it was but same thing, low flight over virtually the entire country of South Africa. Aside from all the problems it is a spectacularly beautiful country.
Posted by: JackStraw

Wow, that's cool.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 25, 2024 11:28 AM (v6JzV)

112 The American Yankee, N5771L who in 1970 made a man, and a pilot, out of me.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 25, 2024 11:29 AM (W/lyH)

113 At the end of todays video I saw an ad for a youtube video claiming to be of a SpaceX fighter jet under development. This is the first I've ever heard of a SpaceX fighter jet. Does one really exist?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 25, 2024 11:29 AM (oGhRH)

114 It is way past time not only for states to tell fed judges they have no standing but to issue an arrest warrant for election fraud.

If a federal judge mandates a bank keep its vault door open with no guards while her cohorts then went in and robbed it is she protected from a charge of conspiracy to commit theft?

Posted by: 18-1 at October 25, 2024 11:29 AM (oZhjI)

115 The biggest issue with the F7U was the engines, provided by Worstinghouse...er, sorry, Westinghouse. Many of the most egregious failures of the early Jet Age in America owe something to chronically underpowered, underperforming Westinghouse engines.

Posted by: Rowsdower & Batman have had it up to HERE with these damn juggalos & still think Ray Epps is a fed a at October 25, 2024 11:29 AM (tzYsy)

116 Speaking of cool flying machines, didn't the stranded astronauts return because SpaceX brought them back?

Posted by: DaisyB at October 25, 2024 11:29 AM (AbL8c)

117 Great stuff, as always!

Posted by: Kirk Spradley at October 25, 2024 11:30 AM (R+l8t)

118 Random comments:

I have been assured by multiple movies that test pilots are unrestrained daredevils who do whatever the hell they want to instead of following plans and controls.

It's good to see some young kids picking up traditional bluegrass but why does every girl singer feel the need to sound like Allison Krause?

Posted by: Oddbob at October 25, 2024 11:30 AM (/y8xj)

119 Speaking of cool flying machines, didn't the stranded astronauts return because SpaceX brought them back?

They did. One wonders what NASA would have done if SpaceX didn't exist. Send them down in the leaky craft and hope for the best, I suppose.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 25, 2024 11:31 AM (xCA6C)

120 Nice post, Roger Ball. Thanks.

Posted by: scampydog at October 25, 2024 11:31 AM (2bFN5)

121 The VA judge should be ignored.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at October 25, 2024 11:31 AM (7PziG)

122 Didja see this?

George
@BehizyTweets
WATCH: JD Vance is currently doing a Town Hall hosted by Chris Cuomo, and Trump surprised them with a call to ask a question
Trump: "How brilliant is Donald Trump?"
Vance: "This is supposed to be for undecided voters. I would hope that I have your vote, of all people."
Trump is a master troll.

https://is.gd/lWlKC1

-
Kamala: drunk, desperate, vicious

Trump: having fun

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 25, 2024 11:31 AM (L/fGl)

123 Many of the most egregious failures of the early Jet Age in America owe something to chronically underpowered, underperforming Westinghouse engines.

OTOH, their refrigerators were superb.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 25, 2024 11:31 AM (muwun)

124 GOP Chair: US Must Consider 'Direct Military Action' If N.Korean Troops Fight In Ukraine

Why? Seriously...why?

The Ukes have a bunch of western mercs/operatives, why do we need to directly intervene if Russia does the same?

Posted by: 18-1 at October 25, 2024 11:32 AM (oZhjI)

125 The American Yankee, N5771L who in 1970 made a man, and a pilot, out of me.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 25, 2024 11:29 AM (W/lyH)

My dad owned an airplane when I was a yute. N7560L, I think. Last I looked, it was owned by a middle eastern guy in Louisiana. I believe it's been permanently grounded as it hasn't had an annual since the 2000's.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 11:32 AM (Zz0t1)

126 But the F-100 was also notorious for low speed handling and being underpowered. Those were corrected in later models, but there is a film of an F-100 on the edge of a stall and the pilot trying to recover until it fell.

Posted by: I M Simpleton at October 25, 2024 11:27 AM (cwq7b)

The "Sabre Dance" (not exactly a pleasant video to watch):

https://youtu.be/Q2qqKwndFW0

Posted by: spindrift at October 25, 2024 11:33 AM (OguvZ)

127 The smart and lovely Andrea Burkhart gave us another recap of the Delphi trial last night (she begins her stream at about 7p eastern).

The State's case seems to be bullshit.
The pathologist testified; horrific wounds.
The sheriff testified, and is a buffoon.

Judge Gull is fucking with the public, making them clear the courtroom and re-form into a line to get back in after breaks. There are only 24 seats for the public.

Andrea's motion for public access to the exhibits was denied, so she may bump it higher.

Some lawyer drama - her descriptions/re-enactments are great.

https://www.youtube.com/live/PF774_N0ycs?feature=shared

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 25, 2024 11:33 AM (ufFY8)

128 They did. One wonders what NASA would have done if SpaceX didn't exist. Send them down in the leaky craft and hope for the best, I suppose.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 25, 2024 11:31 AM (xCA6C)

Amazing.

I'm sure this is getting massive media coverage, right? I mean, it seems significant.

I kid, I kid.

Posted by: DaisyB at October 25, 2024 11:34 AM (AbL8c)

129 I haven't read it, but my educated guess is this:

DOJ rules deny states the ability to mass remove voters from voter rolls within 90 days of an election, therefore VA is not allowed to do this.

Is that for legal, qualified voters or wetbacks that shouldn't be here in the first place?

Sweet. Don't remove the voters from the rolls. Just remove the voters from the country.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 25, 2024 11:34 AM (ahlZZ)

130 I still think the coolest aircraft ever was Richtofen's red Fokker triplane.

The WWI biplanes in general are much cooler to me than jets.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 25, 2024 11:34 AM (v6JzV)

131 "If Trump somehow does pull out a win of the popular vote there will be lefty heads exploding all over the place.
Posted by: Mister Scott "

If you rely on MSM for your news, you are told the race is close but Kamala will probably win, especially since Trump is such a poopy head. I'm mildly optimistic for Trump win but realistic about the fraud and early voting factor so it won't be a surpise if he loses. But if Trump does pull out a win, tens of million of of Dems, AWFL's, Antifa, BLM,LGTBQ+++, climate nuts, moochers, looters... who have never heard opposing views/news are going to be stunned beyond belief and go into outrage-revenge mode. The 2016 weeping and screaming will be quaint.

Posted by: Ripley at October 25, 2024 11:34 AM (GUOwU)

132 In a national poll from NY Times/Sienna released Friday, Donald Trump has surged to a one-point lead over Kamala Harris, 47 to 46 percent.

A little over two weeks ago, this same pollster showed the former president losing to Harris by three points, 44 to 47 percent.

https://tinyurl.com/9e7rtup6

Someone cue Winston Wolfe

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 25, 2024 11:34 AM (muwun)

133 Vance: "This is supposed to be for undecided voters. I would hope that I have your vote, of all people."
Trump is a master troll.

https://is.gd/lWlKC1

Wow, Vance's answer was just perfect. That guy has so much natural political talent. I think his wife better get used to having him in politics.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 25, 2024 11:35 AM (xCA6C)

134 129 I haven't read it, but my educated guess is this:

DOJ rules deny states the ability to mass remove voters from voter rolls within 90 days of an election, therefore VA is not allowed to do this.

Is that for legal, qualified voters or wetbacks that shouldn't be here in the first place?

Sweet. Don't remove the voters from the rolls. Just remove the voters from the country.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 25, 2024 11:34 AM (ahlZZ)

=======

The problem is twofold:

1. It wasn't mass. It was a case by case self-report by non-citizens to the DMV.

2. These are self-admitted non-voters.

The ruling isn't designed to win. It's designed to stall.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 11:35 AM (GBKbO)

135 There was a radio station in my youth that every morning would play the audio between air traffic control and an airline pilot coming in for a landing.

When I lived in the SF bay area in the late 80s - early 90s, there was a restaurant just outside the fence of the San Jose airport with large windows facing the flight line and little speakers at each table playing the tower comms.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 25, 2024 11:35 AM (/y8xj)

136 129. “DOJ rules deny states…”. Stopped reading right there. This is an illegitimate ruling. It should be ignored.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at October 25, 2024 11:36 AM (7PziG)

137 Speaking of cool flying machines, didn't the stranded astronauts return because SpaceX brought them back?

They did. One wonders what NASA would have done if SpaceX didn't exist. Send them down in the leaky craft and hope for the best, I suppose.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 25, 2024 11:31 AM (xCA6C)
===================
Not yet returned. SpaceX is scheduled to bring the two Boeing astronauts home in February, I believe. Until then they have joined the ISS crew, now numbering seven (I think they said).

Four Crew 8 astronauts came back last night, after eight months in space at ISS, three Americans and one Russian.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 25, 2024 11:36 AM (oGhRH)

138 "No. Now they've turned it into a huge annual family reunion for both sides. Many cross family marriages have resulted."
********
So now they are all one big happy inbred family?

Posted by: Cosda at October 25, 2024 11:36 AM (QhggB)

139 Washington Nearsider, I will contact you at your nic email, thanks!

Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2024 11:36 AM (GcNJ2)

140 Abolish the DOJ. What a worthless organization.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 25, 2024 11:37 AM (v6JzV)

141 CNNs Enten and NYTs Cohn both warn Trump could win popular vote

Posted by: It's happening at October 25, 2024 11:37 AM (hvsSs)

142 I wonder how tricky it is for airline pilots who fly Airbuses and other planes with sidesticks to switch flying left-handed vs right-handed depending on which seat you're in.

Posted by: spindrift at October 25, 2024 11:20 AM

Airplanes starting with the very smallest are flown with different hands on the yoke/stick depending on what side you're sitting on. That's because the throttle (a primary flight control--it's more important than you might think) is in the center and you have your hand on it a lot.

For the 172's and Cherokees that I've flown, flying from the right hand side is a challenge because none of the basic instruments are in front of you.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at October 25, 2024 11:37 AM (2Insx)

143 “DOJ rules deny states…”. Stopped reading right there. This is an illegitimate ruling. It should be ignored.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at October 25, 2024 11:36 AM (7PziG)

Now that the Chevron Doctrine has been overruled, the days of federal agencies just pulling regs out of their ass like this should be over.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 25, 2024 11:37 AM (muwun)

144 They did. One wonders what NASA would have done if SpaceX didn't exist. Send them down in the leaky craft and hope for the best, I suppose.
Posted by: Archimedes at October

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Not yet returned. SpaceX is scheduled to bring the two Boeing astronauts home in February, I believe. Until then they have joined the ISS crew, now numbering seven (I think they said).

Four Crew 8 astronauts came back last night, after eight months in space at ISS, three Americans and one Russian.

You are correct. My mistake.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 25, 2024 11:38 AM (xCA6C)

145 But, but, but... we have A RULE!!!

Posted by: The DOJ at October 25, 2024 11:38 AM (muwun)

146
The WWI biplanes in general are much cooler to me than jets.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 25, 2024 11:34 AM (v6JzV)

The young aviator lay dying
And as in the hangar he lay
To the mechanics who 'round him were standing
These last parting words he did say:

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 25, 2024 11:39 AM (EsZUh)

147
"Take the magneto out of my stomach,
And the butterfly valve off my neck,
Extract from my liver the crankshaft,
There are lots of good parts in this wreck.

"Take the manifold out of my larynx,
And the cylinders out of my brain,
Take the piston rods out of my kidneys,
And assemble the engine again."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 25, 2024 11:39 AM (EsZUh)

148 But first . . .

Collin Rugg@CollinRugg
NEW: Actor Mel Gibson says Kamala Harris has the IQ of a "fence post" in footage obtained by @TMZ
Gibson specifically called out Harris for her "appalling" track record.
Question: Who are you voting for? I'm gonna guess. Trump.
Gibson: I think that's a pretty good guess.
Listen, [Kamala has a] miserable track record, appalling track record. No policies to speak of.
[Kamala's] got the IQ of a fence post.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 25, 2024 11:39 AM (L/fGl)

149 130 I still think the coolest aircraft ever was Richtofen's red Fokker triplane.

The WWI biplanes in general are much cooler to me than jets.
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WWII planes for the win.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 25, 2024 11:39 AM (AdHga)

150 Good morning good people. Thanks for the rant Roger Ball. My one (and only) aviation related sea story.

Three of my fellow parishioners are former carrier qualified aviators. Additionally, another parishioner was a yellowshirt during his younger days. Anyway, yellowshirt gets to Mass very early every week so he can stand in front of the parking spot the aviator has selected and motion him in.

Absolutely hilarious.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 25, 2024 11:39 AM (WXNFJ)

151 By the way, did you notice the slide guitar?

Yes, indeedy.
But I think it's called a dobro.
I thought slide guitars were on legs.
But what do I know, I'm [was] a classical singer.
That lead singer sure has a pretty voice.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 25, 2024 11:40 AM (Rbu5d)

152 146-147 Hah! Love it, Hadrian!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 25, 2024 11:40 AM (v6JzV)

153 Posted by: Archimedes at October 25, 2024 11:38 AM (xCA6C)
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Your essential point stands: SpaceX is tremendous.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 25, 2024 11:40 AM (oGhRH)

154 Patricia Tolliver Giles is a district judge in the Eastern District of Virginia and is in the courthouse in Alexandria.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 25, 2024 11:40 AM (dg+HA)

155 I missed the art thread but the best Pollock painting was done by Norman Rockwell . It's my favorite painting of his.

Abstract and Concrete.

Unable to link because I suck.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 25, 2024 11:40 AM (ndoNK)

156 Tonypete, what's a "yellowshirt?"

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 25, 2024 11:41 AM (v6JzV)

157 Surprised they weren’t shot down by Biden’s Air Force for getting help to the people.

Posted by: Settled Science at October 25, 2024 11:41 AM (ai4HI)

158 That's a great video of the test profiles being flown! I doubt non-aviation people understand how complex such a flight profile really is, and how every discipline is integrated into the test team.

I wish there were a similar compilation of the efforts and the problems overcome by the guys with stubby pencils and slide rules, and one for the guys with busted knuckles.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead...Wearing Pants and Working at October 25, 2024 11:41 AM (luW68)

159 148 Gibson: I think that's a pretty good guess.
Listen, [Kamala has a] miserable track record, appalling track record. No policies to speak of.
[Kamala's] got the IQ of a fence post.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 25, 2024 11:39 AM (L/fGl)

========

"That's not true! She's a genius! Just listen to her!"
-DU, 100% probability

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 11:41 AM (GBKbO)

160 I still think the coolest aircraft ever was Richtofen's red Fokker triplane.

The WWI biplanes in general are much cooler to me than jets.
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WWII planes for the win.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 25, 2024 11:39 AM (AdHga)

Doesn't get much cooler than the P-38

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 25, 2024 11:41 AM (ndoNK)

161 But is the 90-day limit a "rule", or in legislation? Have no idea.

One thing that's long puzzled me is how things like the Voting Rights Act, and all similar federal laws, relate to the clear constitutional language giving state legislatures plenary power over election process.

Yeah yeah I know, state courts and governors have flouted this part of the constitution with impunity (hi Pennsylvania in 2020!) - and AFAIK SCOTUS has been MIA on it (like it is on so much).

Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2024 11:42 AM (GcNJ2)

162 The news came out in the First World War,
The bloody Red Baron was flying once more.
The Allied command ignored all of its men,
And called on Snoopy to do it again.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 25, 2024 11:42 AM (v6JzV)

163 161 But is the 90-day limit a "rule", or in legislation? Have no idea.

One thing that's long puzzled me is how things like the Voting Rights Act, and all similar federal laws, relate to the clear constitutional language giving state legislatures plenary power over election process.

Yeah yeah I know, state courts and governors have flouted this part of the constitution with impunity (hi Pennsylvania in 2020!) - and AFAIK SCOTUS has been MIA on it (like it is on so much).
Posted by: rhomboid at October 25, 2024 11:42 AM (GcNJ2)

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I'd guess the VRA leans heavily on the 14th Amendment.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 11:43 AM (GBKbO)

164 I missed the art thread but the best Pollock painting was done by Norman Rockwell . It's my favorite painting of his.

Abstract and Concrete.

Unable to link because I suck.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 25, 2024 11:40 AM (ndoNK)

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http://tiny.cc/7e1szz

Posted by: ShainS -- Musk May be The X-Factor in Overcoming Fraud at October 25, 2024 11:43 AM (TDdfP)

165 Jerry Douglas, dobro:
https://tinyurl.com/r74jft7x

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 25, 2024 11:43 AM (Rbu5d)

166 Yes, indeedy.
But I think it's called a dobro.
I thought slide guitars were on legs.
But what do I know, I'm [was] a classical singer.
That lead singer sure has a pretty voice.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 25, 2024 11:40 AM (Rbu5d)

You're thinking about a Pedal Steel guitar

Posted by: browndog paws at the door at October 25, 2024 11:43 AM (TTAGa)

167 You haven't lived until you ride a DC-3, up in between the two engines.
The drone will never leave your ears.

Posted by: SMOD at October 25, 2024 11:43 AM (RHGPo)

168 what's a "yellowshirt?"

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 25, 2024 11:41 AM (v6JzV)

On the roof of an aircraft carrier, everyone's job is denoted by the color of shirt they wear. Red for the ordies, purple for fuel, et al. Yellowshirts direct the aircraft around deck. You'll get passed from one to another up and down to get to the cat or your parking spot, as required.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at October 25, 2024 11:43 AM (A0ECY)

169 Hey B - a yellowshirt is the guy on the flight deck of a carrier that is in charge of directing the pilot for any movements of his aircraft.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 25, 2024 11:43 AM (WXNFJ)

170 Trump: having fun
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

That's when wild, funny stuff happens.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 25, 2024 11:44 AM (ahlZZ)

171 Tonypete, what's a "yellowshirt?"
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 25, 2024 11:41 AM (v6JzV)

Just spit-balling here, but I'm guessing a worker on the deck of an aircraft carrier.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 11:44 AM (Zz0t1)

172 >Naval aviation is entirely too dangerous. Don't recommend.

Posted by: Kara Hultgreen
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that's cold, man

Posted by: Don Black, resupplied now and rolling like a juggernaut at October 25, 2024 11:44 AM (/7KEl)

173 Gibson comparing Kamala to a fence post is an insult to fence posts, which in fact are useful

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 25, 2024 11:45 AM (aRslG)

174 I lost my mood ring. I'm not sure how I feel about that.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 25, 2024

***
My pet rock just gave birth to a litter of gravel!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 25, 2024 11:17 AM (J2vNu)
***

Awwww...how cute.
You can name that little one Sandy.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 25, 2024 11:45 AM (W/lyH)

175
What would be an interesting thread is the evolution of fighter planes between the wars.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 25, 2024 11:45 AM (EsZUh)

176 Being Jackson Browne's pedal steel, dobro or mandolin player must be a tough gig. How do you replace David Lindley?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 25, 2024 11:45 AM (g1w3t)

177 Doesn't get much cooler than the P-38

Mickey D's F4 Phantom II has entered the chat....

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead...Wearing Pants and Working at October 25, 2024 11:45 AM (luW68)

178 what's a "yellowshirt?"

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 25, 2024 11:41 AM (v6JzV)

On the roof of an aircraft carrier, everyone's job is denoted by the color of shirt they wear. Red for the ordies, purple for fuel, et al. Yellowshirts direct the aircraft around deck. You'll get passed from one to another up and down to get to the cat or your parking spot, as required.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at October 25, 2024 11:43 AM (A0ECY)

169 Hey B - a yellowshirt is the guy on the flight deck of a carrier that is in charge of directing the pilot for any movements of his aircraft.
Posted by: Tonypete

Thanks, y'all.

In my Navy days, we were told that there was no more dangerous place on earth then the deck of an aircraft carrier. I wanted to stay as far away from those as I could get.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 25, 2024 11:45 AM (v6JzV)

179 I missed the art thread but the best Pollock painting was done by Norman Rockwell . It's my favorite painting of his.

Abstract and Concrete.

Unable to link because I suck.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 25, 2024 11:40 AM (ndoNK)

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http://tiny.cc/7e1szz

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Ignore previous link (not full painting) -- this is better:

https://is.gd/tn5jzv

Posted by: ShainS -- Musk May be The X-Factor in Overcoming Fraud at October 25, 2024 11:46 AM (TDdfP)

180 Naval aviation is entirely too dangerous. Don't recommend.

Posted by: Kara Hultgreen

It is if you believe the expert opinions of Hillary Clinton and Pat Schroeder about the level of your flying expertise.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 25, 2024 11:46 AM (xCA6C)

181 Abolish the DOJ. What a worthless organization.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 25, 2024 11:37 AM (v6JzV)

It's Merrick Garland that is beyond worthless. To think that he was just one McTurtle from being on the Supreme Court.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 25, 2024 11:46 AM (AiZBA)

182 Outstanding post, thanks! Still flying tac ops support in Skymasters, did some test work with highest achievement for aircraft in the X-49 SpeedHawk.

Posted by: Commander Cobra at October 25, 2024 11:46 AM (HIK27)

183 always thought the DC-3 was a cool looking plane

planes should look cool

Posted by: Don Black, resupplied now and rolling like a juggernaut at October 25, 2024 11:47 AM (/7KEl)

184 http://tiny.cc/7e1szz
Posted by: ShainS -- Musk May be The X-Factor in Overcoming Fraud at October 25, 2024 11:43 AM (TDdfP)

Thanks Shain.

( the painting is cropped a bit)

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 25, 2024 11:47 AM (ndoNK)

185 F4 Phantom II has entered the chat....

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead...Wearing Pants and Working at October 25, 2024 11:45 AM (luW6

I'm finishing an F-4J Phantom II for a moron client as we speak. Definitely one of the coolest planes of the jet era.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at October 25, 2024 11:47 AM (A0ECY)

186 And now, for a responsible contrary opinion.

Keith Olbermann@KeithOlbermann
We need to arrest and detain @elonmusk immediately.
He is operating on behalf of Russia. Cancel all contracts, seize his facilities, lock him away in a military facility.
Now, @potus.
Not tomorrow.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 25, 2024 11:47 AM (L/fGl)

187 Naval aviation is entirely too dangerous. Don't recommend.

Posted by: Kara Hultgreen

A few guys I know with knowledge of that entire mess hold that she was a fine aviator BUT was passed along the carrier qualification pipeline when she shouldn't have been due to political and Big Navy pressures.

And the predictable outcome indeed did occur.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 25, 2024 11:47 AM (WXNFJ)

188 always thought the DC-3 was a cool looking plane

planes should look cool

Got it covered!

Posted by: B-36 Peacemaker at October 25, 2024 11:48 AM (xCA6C)

189
Beyonce??

What will that accomplish? She is widely despised.

The whole harris campaign is No Bread & Circuses.

Promises of bread, I guess. If you're blacks. And Circuses.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2024 11:48 AM (zsEAY)

190 Doesn't get much cooler than the P-38
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth

Vought F4U Corsair
McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 25, 2024 11:49 AM (ahlZZ)

191 I missed the art thread but the best Pollock painting was done by Norman Rockwell . It's my favorite painting of his.

Abstract and Concrete.

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Called The Connoisseur?

Norman Rockwell made fun of Jackson Pollock by painting the same way:

https://is.gd/kjl2tt

Posted by: ShainS -- Musk May be The X-Factor in Overcoming Fraud at October 25, 2024 11:49 AM (TDdfP)

192 I can’t seem to link the whole Ronnie Montrose Speed of Sound album, but here’s a cut. I’d recommend the album highly.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8qytFFAWLEI

Posted by: Advo at October 25, 2024 11:49 AM (jO4mz)

193 Wide selection aviation buffet (any definition will do) today. Pick your post.

Hopefully this means, like a potluck, we can provide our own additions? The F-22 is one sleek and sexy looking fighter, and these beauty shots from the Air Force Times are stunning:

https://tinyurl.com/3ja95a86

Sure, there's always a part of me that likes older planes, too (and WWII nose art!), but modern jets do have a cool, sleek design. My only complaint is they all start looking a bit "samey", as I guess there's not many options in making an aircraft stealthy.

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at October 25, 2024 11:49 AM (JCZqz)

194 >In my Navy days, we were told that there was no more dangerous place on earth then the deck of an aircraft carrier.
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the guys in the Top Gun movies make it look like loads of fun

Posted by: Don Black, resupplied now and rolling like a juggernaut at October 25, 2024 11:49 AM (/7KEl)

195 189
Beyonce??

What will that accomplish? She is widely despised.

The whole harris campaign is No Bread & Circuses.

Promises of bread, I guess. If you're blacks. And Circuses.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2024 11:48 AM (zsEAY)

Blacks like her...

Posted by: Nova Local at October 25, 2024 11:50 AM (exHjb)

196 ===================
Not yet returned. SpaceX is scheduled to bring the two Boeing astronauts home in February, I believe. Until then they have joined the ISS crew, now numbering seven (I think they said).

Four Crew 8 astronauts came back last night, after eight months in space at ISS, three Americans and one Russian.

Thank you for clarification!

Posted by: DaisyB at October 25, 2024 11:50 AM (AbL8c)

197
Do F-35's hover?

I watched a youtuber play Microsoft Flight Simulator and "fly" an F-35 off a carrier, and he hovered.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2024 11:50 AM (zsEAY)

198 will hold their Moronhood cheap.

Isn't the going rate still 20$ same as in town?

Posted by: DaveA at October 25, 2024 11:50 AM (FhXTo)

199
Anti-submarine doctrine: escorts should protect ships in convoy and not hunt independently.

Fighter doctrine: fighters should not escort bombers but hunt down enemy fighters.

(Simplistic, I know)

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 25, 2024 11:50 AM (EsZUh)

200 oesn't get much cooler than the P-38
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth

Vought F4U Corsair
McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 25, 2024 11:49 AM (ahlZZ)

Planes are like women . Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If I had to make another choice the
SR-71 would be it.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 25, 2024 11:51 AM (ndoNK)

201 The moment when Miami Dade County flipped to republicans.
Hillary won Miami Dade by 31 pts.
Let that sink in.
Trump is dominating in early voting.

https://tinyurl.com/4a5fbjkw

Posted by: Archimedes at October 25, 2024 11:51 AM (xCA6C)

202
Blacks like her...
Posted by: Nova Local

Yeah, the women. Not the men.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2024 11:51 AM (zsEAY)

203 >Beyonce??

What will that accomplish? She is widely despised.
----

uh, have you seen her Levi's commercial?

Posted by: Don Black, resupplied now and rolling like a juggernaut at October 25, 2024 11:51 AM (/7KEl)

204
My most memorable flight was from Jamaica back to Philadelphia. The Castro government extorts money from the airlines to let them overfly Cuba in a very limited corridor. As always I had a window seat and knew from the amount of time that had passed and the ground below that we were over Cuba. Suddenly some racket from somewhere on the plane and a rapid loss of altitude. I'm cursing to myself thinking that Castro was shooting down the plane. Once we leveled off the pilot explained we had lost one engine out of three and we'd be proceeding to Canada for the night. I guess it was cheaper to get the Canadians home.

So, back to Philly in the morning. Someone must have smuggled some weed in their luggage as they brought the dogs in to sniff around. Everyone got their luggage examined with a fine tooth comb. Different era back then.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 25, 2024 11:52 AM (MwtZ5)

205 Keith Olbermann@KeithOlbermann
We need to arrest and detain @elonmusk immediately.
He is operating on behalf of Russia. Cancel all contracts, seize his facilities, lock him away in a military facility.
Now, @potus.
Not tomorrow.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 25, 2024 11:47 AM (L/fGl)

Oh, f*ck off, douche.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 11:52 AM (Zz0t1)

206 In my Navy days, we were told that there was no more dangerous place on earth then the deck of an aircraft carrier.
---

the guys in the Top Gun movies make it look like loads of fun

Posted by: Don Black, resupplied now and rolling like a

When I was flying, it was the best place in the world - one that would definitely kill you if you stopped paying attention for three seconds, but nothing will ever match it for the rush of adrenaline and feeling of contributing to something important.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at October 25, 2024 11:52 AM (A0ECY)

207 Holy shit, that Cutlass crash looks like a scene from a Michael Bay film -- complete with the dude running across the landing strip as the plane crashes right next to him. Yikes.

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 25, 2024 11:53 AM (iFTx/)

208
btw, Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 looks quite realistic. But you'll need a powerful PC AND fast internet to enjoy it.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2024 11:53 AM (zsEAY)

209
Kara Hultgreen died 30 years ago today:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kara_Hultgreen

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 25, 2024 11:53 AM (dg+HA)

210 My favorite WWI song.

https://is.gd/GpPa9A

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 25, 2024 11:54 AM (L/fGl)

211 >but nothing will ever match it for the rush of adrenaline and feeling of contributing to something important.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider
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I can only imagine

Posted by: Don Black, resupplied now and rolling like a juggernaut at October 25, 2024 11:54 AM (/7KEl)

212 118...It's good to see some young kids picking up traditional bluegrass but why does every girl singer feel the need to sound like Allison Krause?
Posted by: Oddbob at October 25, 2024 11:30 AM (/y8xj)

Because sounding like Ma Carter doesn't sell these days?

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 25, 2024 11:54 AM (Rbu5d)

213 207 Holy shit, that Cutlass crash looks like a scene from a Michael Bay film -- complete with the dude running across the landing strip as the plane crashes right next to him. Yikes.
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade

Close...there's a distinct lack of hot girls in the footage for a Michael Bay clip.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 25, 2024 11:54 AM (JCZqz)

214 RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA!!!!!

Qweef Uberdouche.

I mean, seriously? Musk is a Russian Asset?

Please, someone have Keith omitted for a psychiatric evaluation. He's not well. He is a danger to himself and others.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 11:55 AM (Zz0t1)

215 133 Vance: "This is supposed to be for undecided voters. I would hope that I have your vote, of all people."
Trump is a master troll.

https://is.gd/lWlKC1

Wow, Vance's answer was just perfect. That guy has so much natural political talent. I think his wife better get used to having him in politics.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 25, 2024 11:35 AM (xCA6C)

Saw some clips of him on Theo Von's podcast. Just a dude shooting the shit. Idc how it plays out, Vance was the perfect VP pick.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 25, 2024 11:55 AM (KbCG3)

216 @193 Posted by: Admiral Akbar
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to my dismay I checked the poster nic only AFTER I clicked the link. Got me.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 25, 2024 11:55 AM (g1w3t)

217 It's good to see some young kids picking up traditional bluegrass but why does every girl singer feel the need to sound like Allison Krause?
Posted by: Oddbob at October 25, 2024 11:30 AM (/y8xj)

Because sounding like Ma Carter doesn't sell these days?
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker

Whatever happened to sounding like Kitty Wells or Patsy Cline?

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 25, 2024 11:55 AM (ahlZZ)

218 btw, Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 looks quite realistic. But you'll need a powerful PC AND fast internet to enjoy it.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2024 11:53 AM (zsEAY)

Back when I cared, X-Plane was the best simulator by far.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 11:55 AM (Zz0t1)

219 Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at October 25, 2024 11:49 AM (JCZqz)

We only have 180 F-22s and they destroyed the tooling to make more.

What if Britain had the F-80 in 1939? ( operational in 1946) .

There wouldn't have been a WW2.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 25, 2024 11:55 AM (ndoNK)

220
Keith Olbermann@KeithOlbermann
We need to arrest and detain @elonmusk immediately.

Social services needs to do a mental health check on Keith and consider having him examined by competent mental health professionals for a serious number of days.

Something ain't right with that boy.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 25, 2024 11:56 AM (MwtZ5)

221 Kara Hultgreen died 30 years ago today:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kara_Hultgreen

They really worked hard in that summary to avoid mentioning the names of the politicians who brought pressure to bear on the chain of command. Hillary and Pat Schroeder: murderers.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 25, 2024 11:56 AM (xCA6C)

222
See what I mean about the Democrat Doom Loop?

They think arresting Elon and seizing all his property will HELP their candidate.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2024 11:56 AM (zsEAY)

223 124 GOP Chair: US Must Consider 'Direct Military Action' If N.Korean Troops Fight In Ukraine
Why? Seriously...why?
The Ukes have a bunch of western mercs/operatives, why do we need to directly intervene if Russia does the same?
Posted by: 18-1 at October 25, 2024 11:32 AM (oZhjI)

Because the time is runing out for the uniparty/neocons/globalists to have their WWIII to begin. (some say it already has).

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 25, 2024 11:56 AM (Rbu5d)

224 208
btw, Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 looks quite realistic. But you'll need a powerful PC AND fast internet to enjoy it.
Posted by: Soothsayer

After watching Growling Sidewinder on YouTube, I picked up a VR headset and flight stuff to play WWII flight simulators. It's pretty amazing...until I stalled into a flat spin and felt like I was going to puke from the motion sickness lol

Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 25, 2024 11:57 AM (JCZqz)

225 222
See what I mean about the Democrat Doom Loop?

They think arresting Elon and seizing all his property will HELP their candidate.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2024 11:56 AM (zsEAY)

=======

There's video of undecided voters on a Zoom call, a panel, I think, recorded in the last couple of days.

One guy says that he's voting for Trump now...because of the recent Hitler story. It was so over the top and stupid, he just can't help himself from supporting Trump now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 11:57 AM (GBKbO)

226 What if Britain had the F-80 in 1939? ( operational in 1946) .

There wouldn't have been a WW2.
---------------
What if Germany had slowed their roll until they had the Me 262?

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 25, 2024 11:57 AM (AdHga)

227 118...It's good to see some young kids picking up traditional bluegrass but why does every girl singer feel the need to sound like Allison Krause?
Posted by: Oddbob at October 25, 2024 11:30 AM (/y8xj)

NOBODY sounds like Allison Krauss

Posted by: ... at October 25, 2024 11:57 AM (hmOfI)

228 This post reminded me to ask... does anyone watch the vids from Habitual Linecrosser? He knows way more about military planes and geopolitical stuff than a normie, I assume he's military. The eyes and lips on planes and countries can be creepy, but he always has a funny point.

One of his newest vids... "Maybe something's getting lost in translation... Don't happen to have your dipshit to English dictionary handy?"

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iEoWoECKkpk

Posted by: LizLem at October 25, 2024 11:58 AM (QAK8m)

229
Alas, I confess I never served in the military. On the one hand it would have done me good. On the other, I think I would have been very ill suited for it.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 25, 2024 11:58 AM (EsZUh)

230
>>Back when I cared, X-Plane was the best simulator by far.
Posted by: Sponge

That's what I use. Much better "realism" in the actual "flying" of the model, but inferior graphics to MSFS.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2024 11:58 AM (zsEAY)

231 Do F-35's hover?

I watched a youtuber play Microsoft Flight Simulator and "fly" an F-35 off a carrier, and he hovered.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2024 11:50 AM (zsEAY)

F-35Bs can hover, but As and Cs cannot.

Posted by: spindrift at October 25, 2024 11:59 AM (OguvZ)

232 220. Keith is not ok. The man posts deranged anti Trump stuff and lost dogs. He is probably going to hang himself on 11/6.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at October 25, 2024 11:59 AM (7PziG)

233 Hadrian the Seventh:
Constellation: hot babe who steals your soul.

DC-3: plain girl who cooks great and keeps house.

Great quote!

Posted by: FINGERS at October 25, 2024 11:59 AM (lnw9s)

234
Today: Elon Musk

Tomorrow: You

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 25, 2024 11:59 AM (EsZUh)

235 How desperate for carrier jet fighters in the Fifties was the Navy that it had to put the F7U into squadron service afloat?

I think most Fifties Navy carrier fighters, including the F7U were under-powered because NavAir put too many chips on a Westinghouse engine (W-40?) that never met its performance specs and was unreliable. Forcing the Navy to use whatever Navy and USAF engines were in-production and could fit into in-development fighter air frames.

Posted by: Gref at October 25, 2024 11:59 AM (aBgBM)

236 Alas, I confess I never served in the military. On the one hand it would have done me good. On the other, I think I would have been very ill suited for it.

My dad was a career Naval officer, so I had a lot of exposure to people in the military. I know I would have been ill-suited for it. That's not a slam, just an acknowledgement that I know myself.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 25, 2024 11:59 AM (xCA6C)

237 216 @193 Posted by: Admiral Akbar
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to my dismay I checked the poster nic only AFTER I clicked the link. Got me.
Posted by: Huck Follywood

Hey! It was an F22! And it was stunning....and brave. No deception at all!

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at October 25, 2024 11:59 AM (JCZqz)

238 Did anyone see the new Larry Correia anti blackpill political rant that dropped? It was epic. Happy to copypasta the text here if you need it.

Posted by: LizLem at October 25, 2024 11:59 AM (QAK8m)

239 Breaking — Judge orders Virginia to stop removing noncitizens from voter rolls.
Posted by: It's happening at October 25, 2024 11:11 AM (hvsSs)

Launch that judge into the ocean to become shark shit.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 25, 2024 11:12 AM (Zz0t1)

Tell that black robed putz to perform an anatomicaly impossible sexual act upon himself.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at October 25, 2024 12:00 PM (iODuv)

240 Virginia Project
@ProjectVirginia 45m
Let's be clear that if the DOJ connives to have illegal votes cast in a Virginia election, everyone involved will be prosecuted, and our state authorities have made that very clear. There is already a queue of such referrals that local registrars just sent to the AG's office.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 25, 2024 12:00 PM (IG4Id)

241 Thanks, Roger!
I love a thread where the Horde is able to put in their personal expertise.
Have learned so much just from reading posts like this.

The kid group- so talented.

Posted by: sal, who watches way too much TCM at October 25, 2024 12:00 PM (f+FmA)

242 If Miyares has the balls, it could lead to some fun.

Oh, he's got 'em. He knows this is how to advance his cause to higher office.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 25, 2024 11:25 AM (xCA6C)

=======

We'll see.

Puffery is often enough, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 11:26 AM (GBKbO)

who's invoking Zombie at this point?

Posted by: Sturmtoddler at October 25, 2024 12:01 PM (v6XNT)

243
Democrats: President Trump is going to go after his political opponents and put them in camps!

Also Democrats: We must lock up Trump & Musk NOW and seieze all their property!

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 25, 2024 12:01 PM (zsEAY)

244 Whatever happened to sounding like Kitty Wells or Patsy Cline?
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 25, 2024 11:55 AM (ahlZZ)

WHO??

Posted by: kids today at October 25, 2024 12:01 PM (iODuv)

245 I have a cube in the engineering space here that's at the approach end of AFW. There's always something military doing touch and go's or takeoffs in the afternoons. I really miss military aviation.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead...Wearing Pants and Working at October 25, 2024 12:01 PM (luW68)

246 Military would def not have worked for me. I am not a "follow orders" kind of guy. Also I'm an inexorable coward.

Posted by: ... at October 25, 2024 12:01 PM (hmOfI)

247
btw, Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 looks quite realistic.

I think the favorite gift I ever gave my son was a yolk to use with Flight Simulator. Landings with keyboard were always a pain in the ass and almost impossible, with the yolk a breeze.

I gave it to him, because I wanted it myself and knew he would love it. When he went off to college he took it with him. Not much else.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 25, 2024 12:01 PM (MwtZ5)

248 Bruce Springsteen "performed" at a Camelala rally and it was beyond merely terrible.

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1849587659208786147

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at October 25, 2024 12:01 PM (paSBy)

249 In my Navy days, we were told that there was no more dangerous place on earth then the deck of an aircraft carrier.

Saw a still photo of a plane in the stirrup ready to launch and the pilot had hit the wrong button and launched a missile down the flight deck about four foot high. Flight line guys were diving for cover.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 25, 2024 12:01 PM (ahlZZ)

250 240 Virginia Project
@ProjectVirginia 45m
Let's be clear that if the DOJ connives to have illegal votes cast in a Virginia election, everyone involved will be prosecuted, and our state authorities have made that very clear. There is already a queue of such referrals that local registrars just sent to the AG's office.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 25, 2024 12:00 PM (IG4Id)

=======

This is one of my favorite X handles of this election season, by the way.

It's a PAC for election integrity in VA that's been functioning since 2021. He's seemingly in the know and has contacts with VA state officials.

And he's snarky as hell.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 12:01 PM (GBKbO)

251 187 Naval aviation is entirely too dangerous. Don't recommend.

Posted by: Kara Hultgreen

A few guys I know with knowledge of that entire mess hold that she was a fine aviator BUT was passed along the carrier qualification pipeline when she shouldn't have been due to political and Big Navy pressures.

And the predictable outcome indeed did occur.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 25, 2024 11:47 AM (WXNFJ)

I thought the original Top Gun compressor stall was BS just to knock off Goose and create drama, but according to Ward Carroll videos it was a real problem in early F-14s. Also, the recovery for losing an engine on approach is very counterintuitive. Apply opposite rudder to counter the thrust imbalance and the plane would roll over and dive.

Posted by: Advo at October 25, 2024 12:01 PM (jO4mz)

252 What if Britain had the F-80 in 1939? ( operational in 1946) .

There wouldn't have been a WW2.
---------------
What if Germany had slowed their roll until they had the Me 262?
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 25, 2024 11:57 AM (AdHga)

If they would have produced it before the Allie's a different outcome.

That was my point. Why have the most advance aircraft by decades and destroy all the capabilities to produce more. Granted aircraft may not be the deterrent linchpin it once was.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 25, 2024 12:01 PM (ndoNK)

253
He is probably going to hang himself on 11/6.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at October 25, 2024 11:59 AM (7PziG)

________

That would be unfortunate.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 25, 2024 12:02 PM (EsZUh)

254 Russian central bank hikes benchmark rate to 21%, highest since 2003

Putin Ally Warns 'Most Companies' in Russia Face Collapse

Posted by: SMOD at October 25, 2024 12:02 PM (RHGPo)

255 Arrest Elon Musk
---------

We just need better candidates

Posted by: ... at October 25, 2024 12:02 PM (hmOfI)

256 >>> There's video of undecided voters on a Zoom call, a panel, I think, recorded in the last couple of days.One guy says that he's voting for Trump now...because of the recent Hitler story. It was so over the top and stupid, he just can't help himself from supporting Trump now.

If you have a link, TJM, I'd love to see it! Own goals from the left caught on zoom are always worth a watch.

Posted by: LizLem at October 25, 2024 12:02 PM (QAK8m)

257 Military would def not have worked for me. I am not a "follow orders" kind of guy. Also I'm an inexorable coward.
Posted by: ...

What are you talking about!?

You're a natural for flag rank.

(jk - sort of)

Posted by: Tonypete at October 25, 2024 12:02 PM (WXNFJ)

258 Nood Kamala nerd

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 25, 2024 12:03 PM (WnEm5)

259 I hope Bathtub Boy brings his razor this time.

Just kidding Jesus, I swear.

Posted by: ... at October 25, 2024 12:03 PM (hmOfI)

260 Whatever happened to sounding like Linda Ronstadt?
Hubba hubba

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 25, 2024 12:03 PM (dg+HA)

261 Why does autocorrect change allies to Allie's.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 25, 2024 12:03 PM (ndoNK)

262 256 >>> There's video of undecided voters on a Zoom call, a panel, I think, recorded in the last couple of days.One guy says that he's voting for Trump now...because of the recent Hitler story. It was so over the top and stupid, he just can't help himself from supporting Trump now.

If you have a link, TJM, I'd love to see it! Own goals from the left caught on zoom are always worth a watch.
Posted by: LizLem at October 25, 2024 12:02 PM (QAK8m)

=======

Here you go:

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/
1849773946855367074

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 25, 2024 12:03 PM (GBKbO)

263
What if Germany had slowed their roll until they had the Me 262?
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 25, 2024 11:57 AM (AdHga)

_________

The outcome was not in doubt, just the timing. We and the Brits were working on jets as well.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 25, 2024 12:03 PM (EsZUh)

264 Posted by: Tonypete at October 25, 2024 12:02 PM (WXNFJ)

LOL

Posted by: ... at October 25, 2024 12:04 PM (hmOfI)

265 He is probably going to hang himself on 11/6.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at October 25, 2024 11:59 AM (7PziG)

________

That would be unfortunate.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

So, anyway...

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 25, 2024 12:04 PM (ahlZZ)

266 Beyonce??

What will that accomplish? She is widely despised.
—————
By who? She is a very accomplished recording artist. She has an incredible voice. That said, she should stick to singing because she truly is not very bright and sounds like it. Jay Z is bright and has helped her tremendously here, to include, ironically, with one of her best selling albums. It is these people I wish would stay out of politics. She is incredibly rich now, has 3 kids, is married to a mogul. The chip is not necessary and she has proven it.

Posted by: Piper at October 25, 2024 12:04 PM (/sySz)

267 I think the favorite gift I ever gave my son was a yolk to use with Flight Simulator.

I'll bet he was eggscited.

Posted by: spindrift at October 25, 2024 12:04 PM (OguvZ)

268 Update on the Micky D's foodborne problem:

75 people sick, 22 hospitalized & 1 dead across 13 states to date. 2 people developed hemolytic uremic syndrome, a serious condition that can cause kidney failure. The slivered onions served on Quarter Pounders are a likely source of contamination & the ingredient supplier has initiated a recall of yellow onions which were also sold to additional food service locations. The quarter pounders are sold at various McDonald's stores in 12 states. Investigation ongoing.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 25, 2024 12:05 PM (ahlZZ)

269 232
‘ Keith is not ok. The man posts deranged anti Trump stuff and lost dogs. He is probably going to hang himself on 11/6’

Stop campaigning. I’m already voting for Trump.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 25, 2024 12:05 PM (jbnUc)

270 WWII planes . . . always liked the look of the Stuka, and the Junkers (don't know the model, but it looked like a carved version of the DC-3).

Posted by: Citizens of Any Town in Western Movies at October 25, 2024 12:05 PM (J2vNu)

271 >>It's a PAC for election integrity in VA that's been functioning since 2021. He's seemingly in the know and has contacts with VA state officials.

Remarkable.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 25, 2024 12:06 PM (LkLld)

272 Do F-35's hover?

-
I read that as Do-335.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dornier_Do_335

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 25, 2024 12:06 PM (L/fGl)

273 Whatever happened to sounding like Kitty Wells or Patsy Cline?
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 25, 2024 11:55 AM (ahlZZ)

Only one Patsy.

Anyway, the young girl has a nice voice (as I said above), but to my ear doesn't sound like Alison Krause, who has a one-of-a-kind voice.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 25, 2024 12:06 PM (Rbu5d)

274 Keith Olbermann@KeithOlbermann
We need to arrest and detain @elonmusk immediately.
---
How much data does Musk have access to via Twitter?
He keeps saying PA is a "must win" state.
True. But not for Trump--for Harris.
And, suppose you were facing a foe much stronger in every way--here, numbers, money, courts.

What better way to goad them into marching through a swamp to fight you than to get them to focus on PA?

While Trump runs away with WI and the Presidency?
Much easier to swing WI and it's 10 EV than PA and its 20.
AZ, GA and WI = Trump #47.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 25, 2024 12:06 PM (zm1uS)

275
I think the favorite gift I ever gave my son was a yolk to use with Flight Simulator.

I'll bet he was eggscited.

Posted by: spindrift at October 25, 2024 12:04 PM

LOL. Great catch and reply. I can't blame the computer either.

I hate homonyms. I am definitely homonymphobic.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 25, 2024 12:08 PM (MwtZ5)

276 Can someone buy the CIA a new psyop? "____ is in daily contact with Putin" is so far past it's use-by date that it's growing 5 new kinds of fungus.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 25, 2024 12:14 PM (2ocoG)

277 You haven't lived until you ride a DC-3, up in between the two engines.
The drone will never leave your ears.
Posted by: SMOD at October 25, 2024 11:43 AM (RHGPo)

Rode one in 1967, flying from Atlanta to Augusta for my stay at Fort Gordon. Switching from a DC-9 to the DC-3 was quite a shocker!! A night flight. The takeoff seemed to take forever compared to the DC-9. It was a Delta flight. I think we crop dusted along the way.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at October 25, 2024 12:14 PM (iODuv)

278 BREAKING: Kamala Harris calls Donald Trump a "poopy-pants"

... or something like that

Posted by: SMOD at October 25, 2024 12:25 PM (RHGPo)

279 276 Can someone buy the CIA a new psyop? "____ is in daily contact with Putin" is so far past it's use-by date that it's growing 5 new kinds of fungus.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 25, 2024 12:14 PM (2ocoG)

Some Russian probably follows Musk on X... so...

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 25, 2024 12:30 PM (QAkQ3)

280
Being Jackson Browne's pedal steel, dobro or mandolin player must be a tough gig. How do you replace David Lindley?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 25, 2024 11:45 AM (g1w3t)

By playing like him. The vid sounds a LOT like Lindley.

To be fair though, the dude was probably doing so at the direction of Jackson Browne, and like a professional he likely complied and put all his effort into his playing to achieve that sound for the boss.

One of my favorite yootoob slide players is Luke Cyrus Goetze. Here he is playing Neil Young's Harvest Moon. NY is a dick but this is one of the most beautiful songs ever written, I gotta give him credit for that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLOOmtvC9Hc

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 25, 2024 12:39 PM (y9nCu)

281 Old USAF C-130 Nav here. I'm currently reading 'Fate Is The Hunter, A Pilot's Memoir" by Ernest K. Gann. He was an early commercial pilot. His intro is a story of he and his co-pilots unease on a night flight. They don't know why they are uneasy. Suddenly, on descent, they see the green lights on an aircraft pass before them, less than 50 feet away. They did not collide, and only by chance did they miss. I had that feeling while flying, the first, during an in-flight emergency a voice in the back of my head told me that ATC was going to fly us into a mountain. A few minutes later they gave us a vector - straight into a mountain. I was ready for it. Another time, over the ocean, sky as clear as could be, the voice told me to tell everyone to strap in and secure the passengers. I told myself it was crazy, I'd look stupid. The voice persisted. I told it OK, I'll tell them in a few minutes. Then we hit clear air turbulence and all hell broke loose. A Space A passenger had his head split open, cargo spilled, etc. Ever since then, I listen and heed that voice. It has saved me more than once.

Posted by: JML at October 25, 2024 12:45 PM (1UudH)

282 )) Hot girls are waiting for you on --- www.Nu21.eu

Posted by: Nella at October 25, 2024 01:33 PM (SdaCc)

283 What the hell is going on with those horizontal tail deflectoons on the Boom demonstrator jet? If that reflects a trim position, they have major league screwed up. If so, that bird is not going supersonic ever.

I'm suspicious it isn't at the instant the pilot started a maneuver, because it is an air to air photo shoot. You usually do gentle (small control inputs in those)... these deflections reflect maximum nose up pitch inputs. It also would reflect danger during landing, as the pilot would run out of nose up pitch authority.

Posted by: Jimmy Doolittle at October 25, 2024 02:06 PM (H87RG)

284 JML…great post! If asked if I believe in God, I always have to say yes, without any doubt or qualification. I figure one can’t be that lucky that many times. Only had one severe turbulence encounter, just a FA hurt her knee (because she was not seated, like I told them. However, I had plenty of near misses and heart stoppers in the military.
Thanks for your service, brother.

Posted by: FINGERS at October 25, 2024 03:44 PM (yEWKL)

285 Birds are for Real Liberal Honest Democrats are Not for Real

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at October 25, 2024 04:45 PM (wGqjj)

286 BEAUTIFUL Jackson Browne piece.
Thanks.

Posted by: Bach in Black at October 25, 2024 04:53 PM (+oqUV)

287 Ok, just finished the video. Horizontal tail trim cleaned up to a small deflection by 290 knots. Those still pics must have been at very slow speeds, just after his gear retraction test point.

Posted by: Jimmy Doolittle at October 25, 2024 07:14 PM (yo3I1)

288 The other day, while I was at work, my sister stole my apple ipad and tested to see
if it can survive a twenty five foot drop, just so she can be a youtube sensation. My apple ipad
is now destroyed and she has 83 views. I know this is completely off topic but I had to share it with someone!

Posted by: slot gacor at October 28, 2024 05:40 PM (LuBHj)

289 Hey there! I've been reading your site for some
time now and finally got the bravery to go
ahead and give you a shout out from Houston Texas! Just wanted
to mention keep up the fantastic job!

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