Folie a DUH: Studio Scrambling to Figure Out Why a Movie That Was an Undisguised "F*** You" to Its Fans Failed to Find an Audience

Here's a quick EduGraphic. The best point is the first one: Joachin Phoenix reportedly awoke from a dream (which one might imagine was in an altered state) and said he had the greatest idea for a sequel -- it should be a musical!

Todd Phillips, who never wanted to make this movie but changed his mind when they offered him $20 million, supposedly loved the idea. Or, more likely, he just couldn't be bothered enough to care and so he said "Sure let's do what this idiot just said."

The thing about Phillips isolating himself at a ranch during the premiere is no big deal. A lot of directors do that. I believe Spielberg and Lucas were hiding out in Hawaii during the release of their films that they started talking about Raiders of the Lost Ark.

But... One imagines Phillips knew he had a problem on his hands and didn't want to hear from anyone in the opening weekend.

From media shill-site Variety: How They Built The Bomb.

Inside the 'Joker: Folie a Deux' Debacle: Todd Phillips 'Wanted Nothing to Do' With DC on the $200 Million Misfire

The article notes that the two men put in charge of Warner Bros. DC universe, James Gunn and Peter Saffron, did not attend the premiere for this bomb.

Because no one wants to be found near a corpse.

Insiders say the duo's glaring absence for a film that is based on one of the biggest draws in the DC canon underscores a dysfunctional dynamic that played out behind the scenes on the ill-fated Warner Bros. musical. Todd Phillips "wanted nothing to do with DC" during the making of the film, says one agent familiar with the director's unique carve-out, which allowed him to bypass any oversight from the brand's gatekeepers. Although Gunn has publicly supported the film on social media, Phillips has distanced himself from DC. As the animated title-card sequence unspooled inside the iconic Hollywood cinema in the opening minutes, it became apparent that Phillips had just given DC the middle finger. There was no DC Studios logo.

Gunn has since been silent about the movie. He doesn't want it tarnishing his own brand.

"If the first movie was about some down-on-his-luck, mentally ill guy in a downtrodden city, it makes maybe $150 [million] worldwide. Not a billion," says a source familiar with the internal awkwardness. "People showed up because that guy was Joker."
(A DC spokesperson downplays any tensions and says Gunn was busy directing the Max series "Peacemaker" in Atlanta, which had lost a day of production due to Hurricane Helene, while Safran was sick. A Warners spokesperson notes that a DC logo appears at the end of the "Joker" sequel. Phillips declined to comment for this story.)

He doesn't have access to Twitter when he's hanging around waiting for the crew to finish setting the lights? No, he's hiding because he doesn't want the radiation from this bomb poisoning him.

Now that the dust has settled on the sequel's disastrous opening weekend, plenty of soul-searching is taking place on the Burbank lot. The overarching question being asked is: Why spend $200 million to make -- and nearly $100 million to market -- a tentpole that ignores the DC fanbase? And "ignores" may be putting it mildly. As a Rolling Stone review of the film succinctly put it: "'Joker: Folie a Deux' Has a Message for Fans: Go F-ck Yourselves."
Alas, the fanboys and fangirls stayed home, resulting in a shocking $37.7 million domestic opening for Phillips' follow-up to his 2019 "Joker," an enormous success that cost just $60 million and earned $1.1 billion. Such disregard for the base has brand repercussions.
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The movie began production in December 2022, two months after Gunn and Safran took control of DC, and many expected the duo to provide notes and feedback on the R-rated musical, especially given the capital outlay involved. But Phillips balked and would only liaise with De Luca and Abdy.

You know who's probably putting this out to the media? James Gunn. He wants it to be very clear that he had nothing to do with this, and that, while he did offer "notes" to Phillips, Phillips gave him the finger. So you can't blame Gunn's "notes."

And he has done little to dispel the appearance of friction, even though Gunn and Safran were on hand for the first director's cut screening for the studio....

Now Warner Bros.' higher-ups go to the press to say "he ignored us, too!" Zaslav reportedly asked Phillips to reduce the budget by filming in London, which is cheaper, and the UK provides a tax incentive for filming there.

He told Zaslev to get bent. There would be no reducing the hefty price tag. (Phillips' $20 million salary was a part of that price tag, of course.)

The studio also objected to debuting the film at the Venice Film Festival. Note that that was about 45 days before the premiere, so that gave bad reviews plenty of time to set in with the public. Phillips insisted on a Venice debut, and yes, the reviews were bad and ending of the film leaked.

Phillips refused test screenings, claiming he didn't want the ending to leak. But it leaked after Venice. (It's a divisive ending. And the original version was worse.) Those test screenings could have told him what the public objected to in the film, but he was too high on his own supply and wouldn't compromise his artistic vision.

Other battles of will between Phillips and Warners ensued. Phillips refused to test screen "Joker 2." So its premiere in Venice marked the first time an audience saw it. The critics rejected it, and the film tallied a disastrous 33% score on Rotten Tomatoes well before earning a dismal "D" CinemaScore. To put that grade into context, the much reviled "Madame Web" landed a "C+" earlier this year. (A Warners spokesperson says, "Given the film contains spoilers, the studio did not want to unnecessarily divulge plot points too early to test audiences, but rather, allow moviegoers to discover the film in their own time.")

Um, a would-be blockbuster opening in 4,000 theaters isn't built to allow audience to discover it in their own time. It's made to make $200 million opening weekend.

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"No one could get through to Todd," says one source directly involved with the film. "And the one thing about genre stuff: If you don't listen and pay attention to what the fan expectations are, you're going to fail."

Why doesn't anyone in Hollywood understand this (except for this one source)?

This Variety article is written by a goof who was one of the cringing fearful shitlibs worried the movie would "incite incels," but even he understands that attacking your own audience is bad business.

'Joker: Folie a Deux's' Fatal Flaw Is Turning the Fans Into the Villains of the Sequel
I hated Todd Phillips' original "Joker," which made me feel like a crank when the hit anti(super)hero movie went on to earn the top prize at Venice, an Oscar best picture nomination and more than a billion dollars at the box office back in 2019.
That film struck a nerve with me -- not in a good way, though I fiercely believe that provocation can be one of art's highest aims -- by transforming the beloved Batman villain into a poster boy for incels everywhere. I know people like Arthur Fleck, and the last thing they (or any of us) need is such a film to encourage them. I feared it would go down like "Scarface," as a fictive role model for sick minds.

Flash forward five years, and the character is back for a scandalously unpopular sequel, except that this time, it feels like "Joker" hates us -- or, more to the point, it's as if Phillips turned on his original audience. (Turns out, fans are returning the favor. I spoke to a couple theater managers yesterday, and they reported a strange phenomenon: People are canceling their tickets, or simply not showing up, because of the bad reviews.)

Ask yourself, who is the villain in "Joker: Folie a Deux"? Hint: It's not Arthur Fleck. Instead of fearing Joaquin Phoenix's character, it's his fans we ought to be worried about -- those who want him to reprise his role as the face-painted chaos-monger.
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You want to know what's wrong with the "Joker" sequel? It's boring.

I've seen critics note that the movie is mostly one long courtroom scene which simply repeats -- or "relitigates," as this article puts it -- the events of the first movie.

I know that retracing your steps -- going back to places, repeating actions and dialogue -- is just absolute poison in a movie, which is always about moving forward. If you go back a step every time you go forward a step, the audience can see the movie is not progressing but just wasting time.

The YouTuber "CaptainMidnight" faults the film for undoing the whole conclusion of Joker and reverting to the midpoint of that film. That is, the first movie is all about Arthur Fleck coming to terms with the idea that he is Joker, and accepting that, after fighting it for most of the movie. In this movie, it reverts back to Arthur fighting this. So the movie undoes the dramatic choice he makes at the end of the first movie, and once again has him go through the same process of debating if he is Joker. This time, he decides he's not, but the movie makes us tread the same ground again.

Hollywood's had so many gigantic bombs the past two years that it's considering doing the unthinkable: Asking the actual fans of these genre films for advice about what their expectations are, and what their red lines are.

Leftwingers have been shrieking, shrieking about this.

This article itself frames this as "Hollywood considers bringing 'the toxic fandom' into the creative process."

"The Acolyte" was the latest high-profile target of "toxic fandom," the catchall term for when fan criticism curdles from good-faith dissatisfaction into a relentlessly negative, often bigoted online campaign against either the project or its stars or creative leaders. In a franchise economy increasingly dependent upon established audience devotion to drive the bottom line, the threat of toxic fandoms poisoning that enthusiasm has become a seemingly intractable headache for almost every studio. And it's only getting worse.
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Perhaps the greatest irony of this phenomenon is the disproportionate impact these toxic fandoms have relative to their actual number.

Ah yes: the "Tiny Minority of Haters" paradigm.

Weird that this tiny minority is simultaneously so enormous that millions and millions of people around the world are rejecting these movies.

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Those who did talk with Variety all agreed that the best defense is to avoid provoking fandoms in the first place. In addition to standard focus group testing, studios will assemble a specialized cluster of superfans to assess possible marketing materials for a major franchise project.
"They're very vocal," says the studio exec. "They will just tell us, 'If you do that, fans are going to retaliate.'" These groups have even led studios to alter the projects: "If it's early enough and the movie isn't finished yet, we can make those kinds of changes."
Several studio insiders say they often put their talent through a social media boot camp; in some cases, when a character is intentionally challenging a franchise's status quo, studios will, with the actor's permission, take over their social media accounts entirely. When things get really bad -- especially involving threats of violence -- security firms will scrub talent information from the internet to protect them from doxxing.

The "Toxic Fans" are doing exactly what the SJWs did for years: They are pressuing studios to make movies for them. The SJWs demanded that every male hero be gender-flipped to female and every white character (especially gingers) to black. Hollywood didn't call them "toxic" -- instead, they catered to this actually-tiny minority of incessantly online Identity Warriors. All the "toxic" fans are doing now is trying to push back against the SJWs never-ending brigading and pressure campaigns to object these franchises with nonstop leftwing propaganda messaging.

The leftwingers who demand genre films be made to please their tastes are heroes, the normies who say "No, stop this, make these films without a leftwing agenda" are villains.

But here's the thing:

There sure do seem to be a lot more "villains" than "heroes" in the audience, huh?

Posted by: Ace at 04:28 PM

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1 Hey

Posted by: Ciampino - Beautiful cat at October 10, 2024 04:28 PM (qfLjt)

2 nd!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 10, 2024 04:28 PM (1yuVJ)

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Scrolled through the content. Cost me a First.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 10, 2024 04:28 PM (BkEzK)

4 I nooded.

Posted by: Ciampino - Beautiful cata at October 10, 2024 04:29 PM (qfLjt)

5 What does this have to do with Oompa Loompas?

Posted by: wth at October 10, 2024 04:29 PM (v0R5T)

6 Somebody lingered too long on previous threads, but the Horde has been summoned.

Posted by: tankdemon at October 10, 2024 04:29 PM (bzjC4)

7 Willowed but nice to see Coconut and Gang completely losing their fucking minds in the closing weeks of the election

and also Joker is teh ghey

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at October 10, 2024 04:30 PM (M7vhK)

8 This article itself frames this as "Hollywood considers bringing 'the toxic fandom' into the creative process."

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Toxic fandom began when studios started antagonizing the fanbases on purpose.

I never heard about toxic fandom when Star Trek was making its movies through The Next Generation.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 10, 2024 04:30 PM (GBKbO)

9 Now that's an f'n movie review!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 10, 2024 04:30 PM (a1415)

10 I used to watch Batman on tv. Cesar Romero was the Joker. I was not yet in junior high. Since then, I haven't paid much attention.

Posted by: huerfano at October 10, 2024 04:30 PM (VGOMa)

11 There sure do seem to be a lot more "villains" than "heroes" in the audience, huh?

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Yeah, but the large scale financial backers don't care.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 10, 2024 04:31 PM (GBKbO)

12 Did Gaga show the “girls”? That might have helped, if not..

Posted by: tubal at October 10, 2024 04:31 PM (PCK5/)

13 How is it playing among the illegal aliens, for that is the only demographic that matters anymore...

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 10, 2024 04:32 PM (lTGtQ)

14 It's like a Simpsons parody. Or a Mel Brooks movie.

Posted by: qAxSt at October 10, 2024 04:32 PM (wHFQT)

15 Folie a DUD?

Posted by: ShainS -- Assassination is The Ultimate Form of Censorship at October 10, 2024 04:33 PM (OxdRd)

16 Perhaps the greatest irony of this phenomenon is the disproportionate impact these toxic fandoms have relative to their actual number.

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So, the ones who are vocal aren't that many.

Which means that they should be swamped by the normal fans who can just enjoy The Acolyte as good Star Wars.

Which is why...they didn't watch The Acolyte?

Or, is it because the regular Star Wars fans are so dumb that they can't form their own opinions and only get them from Youtube channels?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 10, 2024 04:34 PM (GBKbO)

17 "No one could get through to Todd," says one source directly involved with the film. "And the one thing about genre stuff: If you don't listen and pay attention to what the fan expectations are, you're going to fail."
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This is so painfully self-evident at this point it's axiomatic.

Piss off the fanbase that built the success for your IP and you will crash and burn.

Pick an IP in recent years. This formula works every time.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 10, 2024 04:34 PM (7fElN)

18 "No one could get through to Todd," says one source directly involved with the film. "And the one thing about genre stuff: If you don't listen and pay attention to what the fan expectations are, you're going to fail."

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And they didn't stop him.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 10, 2024 04:35 PM (GBKbO)

19 Needs $450M globally to break even. LOL Suck it WB.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 10, 2024 04:35 PM (/U5Yz)

20 >>Folie a DUD?

That's good.

Posted by: ace at October 10, 2024 04:35 PM (KRtlO)

21 I guess you can only tax write-off so many DEI fueled shitshows before you start to lose real money

more popcorn please

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at October 10, 2024 04:36 PM (M7vhK)

22 It is kind of stunning how so many people have so segmented what they will listen to. The studios, like Budweiser and others, apparently only listen to five percent of the country, and believe that is what everyone wants.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 10, 2024 04:36 PM (lTGtQ)

23 Donny Trumpy boy, we live in a world that does not need walls, and guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You, SgtMaj Walz? We need Transgenders in the military now

I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom as the Biden nurse maid. You weep for the Hurricane Victims and you curse the Government. America’s death, while tragic, saves terrorist lives. And my existence, while grotesque to you, *saves terrorist lives*. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at Trump Rallies, you want me at 1600 PA Avenue.. You need me there . We use words like gay pride, BJs, Transgender Sex. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something perverted. You use them as a punchline on Fox. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to MAGA extremists who rise and sleep under the blanket on a cold ally while homeless, and then questions the manner in which I provide it! I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a Glock and stand on a San Fran Street corner. Either way, I do not care because Global Warming is the greatest threat to the USA.

Posted by: Kamal Harris at October 10, 2024 04:36 PM (BSF0H)

24 Having never seen a Joker movie Imma kind of glad they won't be making anymore.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 10, 2024 04:36 PM (c711F)

25 Wait till you get a load of CONCLAVE a Star Studded movie about the election of a new Pope, will it be an anti-Catholic mess YES it will, Spoilers
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The new Pope will be a trans (intersex) female
Fuck you Hollywood FUUUUCCCCCCKKKK YOU

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at October 10, 2024 04:36 PM (G734x)

26 The fanbase would be young hetero males, yes??? What motivates young hetero males to go to a movie??

Posted by: tubal at October 10, 2024 04:37 PM (PCK5/)

27 Did Gaga show the “girls”? That might have helped, if not..
Posted by: tubal at October 10, 2024 04:31 PM (PCK5/)
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Anonymous sources tell me she has eight nipples, arranged in two rows on the underside of her abdomen.

Posted by: wth at October 10, 2024 04:37 PM (v0R5T)

28 Needs $450M globally to break even. LOL Suck it WB.

Posted by: Maj. Healey

My hope is that after a few years of this, they and Disney will be sold off for scrap value, and we will be free of their malign product.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 10, 2024 04:37 PM (lTGtQ)

29 So much content!

Posted by: Max Power at October 10, 2024 04:37 PM (Hucnr)

30 19 Needs $450M globally to break even. LOL Suck it WB.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 10, 2024 04:35 PM (/U5Yz)

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Nah.

Budget x 2 to including marketing = $400 million cost.

Theaters take roughly 40% of ticket prices over time, so 400/.6 = $666 million.

They need to make 2/3 of a billion to break even.

And it might not make $200 million worldwide, which they'll only get, maybe, 60% of, which is about $120 million.

A loss of nearly half a billion dollars (before licensing, home video, etc. helps them make up a few million more).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 10, 2024 04:38 PM (GBKbO)

31 Well, it's actually a movie review this time.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 10, 2024 04:38 PM (JMAcK)

32 I saw a preview for this when I went to see Trap and I had no idea what it was even supposed to be about.

Posted by: Jordan61 at October 10, 2024 04:38 PM (DRSnL)

33 Tiny group of haters...

Well, I can tell you what 'I' hate. I hate it when you try to morph a classic character, into your 'vision'... which pretty much shits on the original character.

When the only reason you make a movie in this genre, is because there is no way you could get 'your' story told, without hitching your wagon to something that was already popular.

And, your story DESTROYS the original story... hell... look at Rings of Girl Powah... look at the Hobbit... look at StarShip Troopers...

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 10, 2024 04:38 PM (QAkQ3)

34 I had the feeling Conclave was going to be shit when the reviewers started talking up how the liberal is the good guy and he's struggling against an evil Italian "nationalist" ( probably just someone who would rather Italy remained mostly Italian).

Posted by: qAxSt at October 10, 2024 04:39 PM (wHFQT)

35 You have to intentionally want to fvck up an extremely popular franchise movie that is guaranteed to bring in hundreds of millions of $$$$$ with the fan bois.

They screwed this up on purpose just to try and make a point that all white people are racist homophobes.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 10, 2024 04:39 PM (QNSds)

36 Kamal Harris at October 10, 2024 04:36 PM (BSF0H)

I know it's fake. That statement requires thought...

Posted by: MkY at October 10, 2024 04:39 PM (cPGH3)

37 Can anyone name a real Blockbuster movie that has been made this century?

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 10, 2024 04:39 PM (c711F)

38 I swear, the Joker was dead when I got there.

Posted by: Todd Phillips at October 10, 2024 04:40 PM (dFmWL)

39 Joker 2 is a musical musical? Not just a movie with an emphasized score?

Egads! That's Box Office Poison before the first word of a script.

I guess I just don't get movies anymore.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at October 10, 2024 04:40 PM (aXxgO)

40 I am a knuckle head for picking Fat Boy Walz as my......

RUNNING MATE!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Kamal Harris at October 10, 2024 04:40 PM (BSF0H)

41 The real blockbuster made in part this century would be Lord Of The Rings.

Posted by: qAxSt at October 10, 2024 04:40 PM (wHFQT)

42 37 Can anyone name a real Blockbuster movie that has been made this century?
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 10, 2024 04:39 PM (c711F)

Only thing I can think of offhand is Top Gun Maverick… Maybe??

Posted by: tubal at October 10, 2024 04:40 PM (PCK5/)

43 This Joker film is a musical?

I'm out. I didn't like the Buffy musical episode -- all the songs sounded alike -- and that did not require a $10+ ticket to see.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 10, 2024 04:41 PM (J2vNu)

44 37 Can anyone name a real Blockbuster movie that has been made this century?
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 10, 2024 04:39 PM (c711F)

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In the US, 21 of the top 22 movies of all time are from the 21st century.

Blockbuster, if it has a definition, is all about money. Plenty of 'em the past 24 years, including the first Joker.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 10, 2024 04:41 PM (GBKbO)

45 Arguably "Batman" was a Prince musical.

Posted by: And it was fucking awesome at October 10, 2024 04:41 PM (wHFQT)

46 I've seen critics note that the movie is mostly one long courtroom scene which simply repeats -- or "relitigates," as this article puts it -- the events of the first movie
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They did this with a British show. A successful season 1 and then in season 2 they did a courtroom drama recap of Season 1. There has to be a name for this phenomenon. Maybe "laziness".

Posted by: ... at October 10, 2024 04:42 PM (hmOfI)

47 Is this the movie thread? Because my niece made me watch Anyone But You and holy hell it was bad.

Posted by: Jordan61 at October 10, 2024 04:42 PM (DRSnL)

48 41 The real blockbuster made in part this century would be Lord Of The Rings.
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Which One? There are like dozens of them. I've tried to watch them but they put me to sleep.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 10, 2024 04:42 PM (c711F)

49 I wonder what these producers think about the mohammedans blowing up Buddhist statues or Nazis burning books, or burn-loot-murder tearing down the founding father statues, because they are doing the same thing with literary figures.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 10, 2024 04:42 PM (lTGtQ)

50 Fan focus groups also sound like a terrible idea though. I don't really want a bunch of uber-geek shut-in obsessives explaining to Paul Sheldon what the next Misery book should be like. Maybe they should consider hiring people who can write and plot a fucking script?

Posted by: Probably Too Old Fashioned at October 10, 2024 04:43 PM (12gd1)

51 Note to Hollywood- if is not the "fandom" that is toxic. Stop hiring producers, directors and other unimaginative "creatives" who want to film a message and find somebody who wants to tell an amusing tale.

Posted by: tankdemon at October 10, 2024 04:43 PM (bzjC4)

52 CNN....... A Bill C has a question for you on Sexual Predators in the MAGA Movement.....

Yea Kammy Baby....... Is your Crouch as juicy as a freshwater clam ??????

Posted by: Kamal Harris at October 10, 2024 04:43 PM (Mig/N)

53 37
Lord of the Rings. 2001, 2002, 2003

Posted by: jmel at October 10, 2024 04:43 PM (bVhJi)

54 50 Fan focus groups also sound like a terrible idea though. I don't really want a bunch of uber-geek shut-in obsessives explaining to Paul Sheldon what the next Misery book should be like. Maybe they should consider hiring people who can write and plot a fucking script?
Posted by: Probably Too Old Fashioned at October 10, 2024 04:43 PM (12gd1)

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Eh.

"The same, but different," would be an improvement over, "Different, and fuck what it used to be."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 10, 2024 04:43 PM (GBKbO)

55 Blockbuster, if it has a definition, is all about money. Plenty of 'em the past 24 years, including the first Joker.
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You know we are talking Biden dollars here, rite?

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 10, 2024 04:44 PM (c711F)

56 I know that retracing your steps -- going back to places, repeating actions and dialogue -- is just absolute poison in a movie,

is it?

Posted by: rashomon at October 10, 2024 04:44 PM (sGtp+)

57 51 Note to Hollywood- if is not the "fandom" that is toxic. Stop hiring producers, directors and other unimaginative "creatives" who want to film a message and find somebody who wants to tell an amusing tale.
Posted by: tankdemon at October 10, 2024 04:43 PM (bzjC4)

Step 1: Fire anyone who is on Epstein's client list, or has been to a Diddy Party.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 10, 2024 04:44 PM (QAkQ3)

58 id Gaga show the “girls”? That might have helped, if not..
Posted by: tubal at October 10, 2024
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Anonymous sources tell me she has eight nipples, arranged in two rows on the underside of her abdomen.
Posted by: wth at October 10, 2024

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That . . ch-rrrrowl . . . is hot.

Posted by: Kzinti Warriors Everywhere at October 10, 2024 04:44 PM (J2vNu)

59 53 37
Lord of the Rings. 2001, 2002, 2003
Posted by: jmel at October 10, 2024 04:43 PM (bVhJi)

Good catch… was thinking it was late 20th…

Posted by: tubal at October 10, 2024 04:44 PM (PCK5/)

60 56 I know that retracing your steps -- going back to places, repeating actions and dialogue -- is just absolute poison in a movie,

is it?
Posted by: rashomon at October 10, 2024 04:44 PM (sGtp+)

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Rashomon would be a lot less interesting if it were a sequel to a movie where we got an objective view of the central crime.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 10, 2024 04:45 PM (GBKbO)

61 Step 1: Fire anyone who is on Epstein's client list, or has been to a Diddy Party.
Posted by: Romeo13

Step 2: Shut 'er down, folks!

Posted by: MkY at October 10, 2024 04:45 PM (cPGH3)

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Can anyone name a real Blockbuster movie that has been made this century?
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 10, 2024 04:39 PM (c711F)

Pro...bably not.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 10, 2024 04:46 PM (dFmWL)

63 61 Step 1: Fire anyone who is on Epstein's client list, or has been to a Diddy Party.
Posted by: Romeo13

Step 2: Shut 'er down, folks!
Posted by: MkY at October 10, 2024 04:45 PM (cPGH3)

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The really crazy parties were for the best boys.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 10, 2024 04:46 PM (GBKbO)

64 61 Step 1: Fire anyone who is on Epstein's client list, or has been to a Diddy Party.
Posted by: Romeo13

Step 2: Shut 'er down, folks!
Posted by: MkY at October 10, 2024 04:45 PM (cPGH3)

I think step 1 would shut most of it down.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 10, 2024 04:46 PM (QAkQ3)

65 Step 1: Fire anyone who is on Epstein's client list, or has been to a Diddy Party.

That means everyone in media born before 2004. Maybe 2012

Posted by: qAxSt at October 10, 2024 04:46 PM (wHFQT)

66 Too many current movies are just vehicles to lecture us on our sins…

Posted by: tubal at October 10, 2024 04:47 PM (PCK5/)

67 Hasn't this poor horse been beaten enough ?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 10, 2024 04:47 PM (IyPmt)

68 You want to make a Joker sequel that would work?

Start the second movie with the FNM making Fleck a secular saint who if he caused any violence it was really the righteous fury of the oppressed.

Fleck escapes and descends into The Joker. While the cops try to arrest him the FNM starts covering "police brutality" as Joker, his minions and his followers turn Gotham into a violent shithole. Meanwhile Gaga plays an up and coming progressive pol (and make her look like The Penguin) running for mayor.

The movie ends with Penguin/Gaga winning and bringing Fleck, in full Joker facepaint, on as the head of the new Community Organizer Platoon (COPs of course!) which will replace Gotham PD.

Add a post credit scene with Alfred watching all of this on TV and then checking on young Bruce Wayne.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 10, 2024 04:47 PM (oZhjI)

69 Kzinti Warriors Everywhere

Go on...

Posted by: Dean Ing at October 10, 2024 04:48 PM (wHFQT)

70 I eagerly await Kamala's announcement of her plan to bail out Hollywood.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 10, 2024 04:48 PM (FnneF)

71 67 Hasn't this poor horse been beaten enough ?
Posted by: It's me donna at October 10, 2024 04:47 PM (IyPmt)

Nope. Just getting started donna…

Posted by: tubal at October 10, 2024 04:48 PM (PCK5/)

72 Hasn't this poor horse been beaten enough ?
Posted by: It's me donna at October 10, 2024

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I'd say so. But ol' Woodrow is trying to teach it a lesson!

Posted by: Augustus McRae at October 10, 2024 04:48 PM (J2vNu)

73 Cool, there is an anti-hate exhibit going on in Los Angeles.

The star attraction gives participants the opportunity to kick a replica of Donald Trump's severed head around.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 10, 2024 04:48 PM (lTGtQ)

74 Blockbusters this century??

Top Gun: Maverick
Barbie
Most of the Avengers movies
Deadpool
Most of the Marvel original characters movies.
The Pirates of the Caribbean movies

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 10, 2024 04:49 PM (4XwPj)

75 Kzinti Warriors Everywhere

HELLS TO THE YEAH

Posted by: Furies everywhere at October 10, 2024 04:49 PM (oZhjI)

76 Dang we Trumpcels are just ruining everything for Hollyweird arent we, what with our disgusting fetish for hot women who look like women and wanting entertainment that doesnt taint lick the hairy asses of woke DEI hires

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at October 10, 2024 04:49 PM (M7vhK)

77 Meh. I haven't been to a movie theatre since before the 'vid. Pedowood can die as far as I care. Nothing original in the past 15-20 years. Plus telling me I suck as a white heterosexual male, Pedowood can suck my....

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at October 10, 2024 04:49 PM (TN5A0)

78 74 Blockbusters this century??

Top Gun: Maverick
Barbie
Most of the Avengers movies
Deadpool
Most of the Marvel original characters movies.
The Pirates of the Caribbean movies
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 10, 2024 04:49 PM (4XwPj)

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"Yeah, but I don't like them, so they shouldn't count as blockbusters."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 10, 2024 04:50 PM (GBKbO)

79 Gee, the guy whose track record with sequels so far has been.... not great.... didn't fare well with a sequel to Joker, huh?

Posted by: Octochicken at October 10, 2024 04:50 PM (oCS0o)

80 34 I had the feeling Conclave was going to be shit when the reviewers started talking up how the liberal is the good guy and he's struggling against an evil Italian "nationalist" ( probably just someone who would rather Italy remained mostly Italian).
Posted by: qAxSt at October 10, 2024 04:39 PM (wHFQT)

Oddly they make the African Cardinal bad because he's ultra Conservative that wants the Latin Mass and traditional values and the one that's elected is So great and understanding of everyone's feelings and is from Iraq so that checks a hollywood box

What's sad is that this is from a Book by Robert Harris

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at October 10, 2024 04:51 PM (G734x)

81 Avatar… blockbuster, or no?

Posted by: tubal at October 10, 2024 04:51 PM (PCK5/)

82 I saw some polling* of incels and most are leftwing. Essentially they've taken the leftist view of economics and applied it to romantic/sexual relationships. The FNM wants to portray right of center people that way but some guy marrying a woman and having 8 kids is not an incel...

*And yes that were happy to get any sort of polling whatsoever.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 10, 2024 04:51 PM (oZhjI)

83 The sooner Hollywoke is finished, the better it is for actual movie fans.

I love that these Marxist movie makers are losing a $hit load of money.

Less for the Democrats to spend on re-electing Kamala and her ilk.

Posted by: Czech Chick at October 10, 2024 04:51 PM (fpVC1)

84 75 Kzinti Warriors Everywhere

HELLS TO THE YEAH
Posted by: Furies

leave us out of this

Posted by: eumenides at October 10, 2024 04:51 PM (sGtp+)

85 81 Avatar… blockbuster, or no?
Posted by: tubal at October 10, 2024 04:51 PM (PCK5/)

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Both made a shit ton of money.

Yes, undoubtedly a pair of blockbusters.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 10, 2024 04:51 PM (GBKbO)

86 Prometheus…

Posted by: tubal at October 10, 2024 04:52 PM (PCK5/)

87 Avatar is the highest grossing film of all time. $2.9B
Jeez Louise.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 10, 2024 04:52 PM (/U5Yz)

88 hmm. maybe we bring TWoP back?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 10, 2024 04:52 PM (s3qiR)

89 MI movies…

Posted by: tubal at October 10, 2024 04:52 PM (PCK5/)

90 Cool, there is an anti-hate exhibit going on in Los Angeles.
The star attraction gives participants the opportunity to kick a replica of Donald Trump's severed head around.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 10, 2024 04:48

Then when they kick it, it explodes?

Posted by: Skeletor at October 10, 2024 04:53 PM (dFmWL)

91 Avatar was odd. It made a shit ton of money but had basically zero impact on the culture. Other blockbusters show up in the culture in all sorts of ways from memes to music to theme analysis but both Avatar 1 and 2 appeared, dominated the box offices, and then disappeared.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 10, 2024 04:53 PM (oZhjI)

92 82 I saw some polling* of incels

poling > polling

Posted by: incels at October 10, 2024 04:53 PM (sGtp+)

93 10 I used to watch Batman on tv. Cesar Romero was the Joker. I was not yet in junior high. Since then, I haven't paid much attention.
Posted by: huerfano at October 10, 2024 04:30 PM (VGOMa)

I liked Cesar Romero's Joker. My favorite episode was the one where he entered a modern art competition. Brilliant skewering of the movement.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 10, 2024 04:53 PM (0XnKG)

94 87 Avatar is the highest grossing film of all time. $2.9B
Jeez Louise.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 10, 2024 04:52 PM (/U5Yz)

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Endgame had overcome it for a time, but they re-released Avatar so it was able to crawl back to the top spot.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 10, 2024 04:53 PM (GBKbO)

95 hmm. maybe we bring TWoP back?
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 10, 2024 04:52 PM (s3qiR)

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TWoP was awesome. I miss it.

Posted by: Jordan61 at October 10, 2024 04:53 PM (DRSnL)

96 With only eight teats Lady Ga Ga better not have ten pups.

Posted by: wth at October 10, 2024 04:54 PM (v0R5T)

97 *And yes that were happy to get any sort of polling whatsoever.

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I joined an incel forum once and got banned in 5 minutes.

man they touchy mofos

I had suggested doing keto and weight lifting to improve their health and self___ but they have this fatalist attitude where nothing is worth the effort

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at October 10, 2024 04:54 PM (M7vhK)

98 91 Avatar was odd. It made a shit ton of money but had basically zero impact on the culture.

yeah, well, the *only* thing it had was magnificent 3d. i've tried to watch it in 2d; nope.

Posted by: anachronda at October 10, 2024 04:54 PM (sGtp+)

99 Pet peeve: women who wear a very revealing low cut top who constantly pull a sweater over their chest when they are around you implying that you are trying to look at their boobs. It's very insulting, even if it's accurate.

Posted by: Max Power at October 10, 2024 04:55 PM (Hucnr)

100 I liked Cesar Romero's Joker. My favorite episode was the one where he entered a modern art competition. Brilliant skewering of the movement.

**************

Was that the one where he had a blank canvas?

I swear that would literally sell for millions in todays woke world

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at October 10, 2024 04:55 PM (M7vhK)

101 98 yeah, well, the *only* thing it had was magnificent 3d. i've tried to watch it in 2d; nope.
Posted by: anachronda at October 10, 2024 04:54 PM (sGtp+)

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Good 3D is about depth, not pop out effects. Cameron did that well.

He also planned the film visually to be very bright. Dimness makes 3D just harder to look at in general.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 10, 2024 04:55 PM (GBKbO)

102 They get to kick Trump's severed head to relieve their anger over his diet, apparently. There is also an adjacent exhibit of a nude Trump with mutilated genitals.

This is the very definition of anti-hate by the left.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 10, 2024 04:55 PM (lTGtQ)

103
I had suggested doing keto and weight lifting to improve their health and self___ but they have this fatalist attitude where nothing is worth the effort

Now convert that to economics..."nothing I can do will move me out of poverty so why bother trying?" and you've got the standard leftwing line...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 10, 2024 04:55 PM (oZhjI)

104 86 tubal

RCP polls today:

I see red people.

Nobody even bothers to poll our state's Senate race any more.

Posted by: mnw at October 10, 2024 04:55 PM (NLIak)

105 Joker 2 had all the elements to be good and a moneymaker except a script.

The principal actors were all good. It was shot well. The musical parts were actually good and I'm usually not into musicals.

The script SUCKED. It was an anti-origin story (that's code for those who've seen it).

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 10, 2024 04:55 PM (Amz76)

106 94 87 Avatar is the highest grossing film of all time. $2.9B
Jeez Louise.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 10, 2024 04:52 PM (/U5Yz)

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Endgame had overcome it for a time, but they re-released Avatar so it was able to crawl back to the top spot.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 10, 2024 04:53 PM (GBKbO)

Avatar(s) seemed a current iteration of the Jurassic movies that were blockbusters… pure assed entertaing… their lack of cultural influence IS puzzling, TJM…

Posted by: tubal at October 10, 2024 04:56 PM (PCK5/)

107 Saw The Polling Incels open for Blondie in '82 at The Garden

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 10, 2024 04:56 PM (/U5Yz)

108 You'll never guess The Mary Sue's take!

Joker 2’s failure is exposing a major Hollywood hypocrisy. Male-led films get all the slack. When The Marvels pulled in $46 million on its opening weekend, people acted like the world was crashing down. After Joker 2‘s flop, the same Hollywood Reporter posted a widely-panned tweet encouraging director Todd Phillips to “hang in there.”

When a female-led / female-directed film flops, there’s this discourse about whether female-led films actually make money. It’s hard to overstate how much effort goes into the discourse of, “Hmmmmmm, do people really want to watch women? Do action?!”

@Diamandahagan People just don't want supermovies starring straight, white men . No other factors at all, no siree. That's how this works, isn't it?

Reportedly, Warner Bros. declined to do test screenings for Joker 2 at all.

@FootRaccoon Batgirl tested well, but got shelved.
Coyote v ACME tested amazingly, but got shelved.
THIS wasn't even tested at all, got released, and is now being thrashed by critics and audiences.

This is what happens when you prioritize Wall Street over consumers. #FireDavidZaslav

Posted by: Intercepted The Mary Sue Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 10, 2024 04:56 PM (JCZqz)

109 104 86 tubal

RCP polls today:

I see red people.

Nobody even bothers to poll our state's Senate race any more.
Posted by: mnw at October 10, 2024 04:55 PM (NLIak)

RED… and getting REDDER…

Posted by: tubal at October 10, 2024 04:56 PM (PCK5/)

110 Apparently, Henry Cavill's Warhammer 40k project on Amazon is dead. Probably a good thing given Amazon's penchant for lore perversion.

Posted by: Halfhand at October 10, 2024 04:57 PM (fQHax)

111
Whew! I'm finally not the worst film ever!

Posted by: Joe Versus the Volcano at October 10, 2024 04:57 PM (+oR7L)

112 de-barrel

Posted by: Halfhand at October 10, 2024 04:57 PM (fQHax)

113 RCP polls today: I see red people.

***************

THE WALLS ARE CLOSING IN

Quick Coconut, do another late night show!

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at October 10, 2024 04:57 PM (M7vhK)

114 106 Avatar(s) seemed a current iteration of the Jurassic movies that were blockbusters… pure assed entertaing… their lack of cultural influence IS puzzling, TJM…
Posted by: tubal at October 10, 2024 04:56 PM (PCK5/)

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Cultural impact these days is all about ancillary things like TV shows, comics, and expanding media so it's in the popular consciousness for longer.

Movies struggle with that on their own. It's one reason studios are doing television show spinoffs like The Penguin for The Batman or The Sisterhood for Dune.

Avatar never had anything like that. Everyone saw it for 9 months in 2009. And then nothing for 14 years...when everyone saw Avatar 2. It's kind of odd in how it has this cultural cache without any sort of cultural imprint.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 10, 2024 04:57 PM (GBKbO)

115 I eagerly await Kamala's announcement of her plan to bail out Hollywood.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
......

The rich must pay their fair share in taxes.

Posted by: wth at October 10, 2024 04:58 PM (v0R5T)

116 Mary Sue to the Barrel....

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 10, 2024 04:58 PM (FnneF)

117 I didn't like the first Joker that was critically acclaimed. Will never know how bad the 2nd one is.

Watched Horizon-An American Saga. I think it could have been edited better. The Tarantino style of skipping around with different stories with big gaps in time just didn't work for me.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 10, 2024 04:58 PM (zn6Ro)

118 Apparently, Henry Cavill's Warhammer 40k project on Amazon is dead. Probably a good thing given Amazon's penchant for lore perversion.

I suspect a Warhammer movie would become one of the highest grossing movie of whatever year it came out - its developed a following like LotR

BUT...only if it keeps the original grim dark and very anti-woke vision.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 10, 2024 04:58 PM (oZhjI)

119 111
Whew! I'm finally not the worst film ever!
Posted by: Joe Versus the Volcano at October 10, 2024 04:57 PM (+oR7L)

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I'm gonna throw whoever this is into the Big Woo.

Joe v the Volcano is wonderful.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 10, 2024 04:58 PM (GBKbO)

120 This is what happens when you prioritize Wall Street over consumers. #FireDavidZaslav

Posted by: Intercepted The Mary Sue Transmissions

Something tells me that if Wall Street were funding this, they would be at least producing something that broke even.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 10, 2024 04:59 PM (lTGtQ)

121 So there isn't going to be a Joker 3? So sad. At least I have "The King of Comedy" to watch from time to time.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 10, 2024 04:59 PM (2NjxG)

122 Hollywood is full of whiny man-babies and angry lesbians. Those are the people making movies now.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 10, 2024 04:59 PM (CHHv1)

123 I'm gonna throw whoever this is into the Big Woo.

Joe v the Volcano is wonderful.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

I have no response to that.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 10, 2024 04:59 PM (lTGtQ)

124 96 With only eight teats Lady Ga Ga better not have ten pups.

Posted by: wth at October 10, 2024 04:54 PM (v0R5T)
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You get puppies by doing it doggie fashion right?

Posted by: Ditzy Hollywood Blonde at October 10, 2024 04:59 PM (qfLjt)

125 Now convert that to economics..."nothing I can do will move me out of poverty so why bother trying?" and you've got the standard leftwing line...

**********************

makes perfect sense

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at October 10, 2024 05:00 PM (M7vhK)

126 96 With only eight teats Lady Ga Ga better not have ten pups.
Posted by: wth

How many foals can a horse have?!?!?! Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Sarah Jessica Parker at October 10, 2024 05:00 PM (JCZqz)

127 The idea that Batgirl was going to be a huge moneymaker tickles me.

It was a reasonably expensive movie that had more work to do to get it done. Good or not, it was probably not going to make a lot of money, so Zaslav actually did what business schools demand of its students: reject the sunk cost fallacy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 10, 2024 05:00 PM (GBKbO)

128 123 I have no response to that.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 10, 2024 04:59 PM (lTGtQ)

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Now, say it breathy, Meg.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 10, 2024 05:00 PM (GBKbO)

129 Whew! I'm finally not the worst film ever!
Posted by: Joe Versus the Volcano

Not even close, buster.

Posted by: The Way We Were at October 10, 2024 05:01 PM (v0R5T)

130 "37 Can anyone name a real Blockbuster movie that has been made this century?"

LOTR, before H'wood f'd that up as well.

Posted by: Martin Tell at October 10, 2024 05:01 PM (sFNX2)

131 119 I'm gonna throw whoever this is into the Big Woo.

Joe v the Volcano is wonderful.

i'm not arguing that with you

Posted by: anachronda at October 10, 2024 05:01 PM (sGtp+)

132 111
Whew! I'm finally not the worst film ever!
Posted by: Joe Versus the Volcano at October 10, 2024 04:57 PM

Excuse Me?

Posted by: Face/Off at October 10, 2024 05:01 PM (+oR7L)

133 120 This is what happens when you prioritize Wall Street over consumers. #FireDavidZaslav

Posted by: Intercepted The Mary Sue Transmissions

Something tells me that if Wall Street were funding this, they would be at least producing something that broke even.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 10, 2024 04:59 PM (lTGtQ)

"Greedy capitalistic pigs will do anything to make a buck!"

"Anything other than do a test screening, right?"

"Right. (Pause) Hey, wait a minute!"

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 10, 2024 05:01 PM (KbCG3)

134 131 119 I'm gonna throw whoever this is into the Big Woo.

Joe v the Volcano is wonderful.

i'm not arguing that with you
Posted by: anachronda at October 10, 2024 05:01 PM (sGtp+)

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I'm losing my sole.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 10, 2024 05:01 PM (GBKbO)

135 132 111
Whew! I'm finally not the worst film ever!
Posted by: Joe Versus the Volcano at October 10, 2024 04:57 PM

Excuse Me?
Posted by: Face/Off at October 10, 2024 05:01 PM (+oR7L)

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You people have obviously never experienced Dennis Hopper's The Last Movie.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 10, 2024 05:01 PM (GBKbO)

136 Now, say it breathy, Meg.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

I thought the movie was pretty strange, but that was one of the best lines ever.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 10, 2024 05:01 PM (lTGtQ)

137 Now convert that to economics..."nothing I can do will move me out of poverty so why bother trying?" and you've got the standard leftwing line...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 10, 2024 04:55 PM (oZhjI)

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I see you've been hanging around Reddit.

Posted by: Jordan61 at October 10, 2024 05:02 PM (DRSnL)

138 Oh, and Jack Nicholson is THE GOAT of Jokers.

Posted by: Martin Tell at October 10, 2024 05:02 PM (sFNX2)

139 136 Now, say it breathy, Meg.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

I thought the movie was pretty strange, but that was one of the best lines ever.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 10, 2024 05:01 PM (lTGtQ)

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I had a girlfriend who complained about movie.

"It's images are so obvious!"

"Well, at least it has images," I retorted. It actually got her to shut up and think about it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 10, 2024 05:02 PM (GBKbO)

140 Not even close, buster.
Posted by: The Way We Were

Get in line.

Posted by: Love Story at October 10, 2024 05:02 PM (4XwPj)

141 113 THE WALLS ARE CLOSING IN

Quick Coconut, do another late night show!

they'll be rescued by preheat's streaming of tim walz speech while playing world of warcraft this evening. you'll see.

Posted by: anachronda at October 10, 2024 05:02 PM (sGtp+)

142 The only good part in Joe vs The Volcano was the opening where he is trapped in his dead end office with the Fluorescent Lights buzzing.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 10, 2024 05:03 PM (zn6Ro)

143 I liked Cesar Romero's Joker. My favorite episode was the one where he entered a modern art competition. Brilliant skewering of the movement.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 10, 2024

***
Nicholson's Joker was effective in a different way. You really knew that this guy was truly insane.

Posted by: Augustus McRae at October 10, 2024 05:03 PM (J2vNu)

144 RCP polls today:

I see red people.

Nobody even bothers to poll our state's Senate race any more.
Posted by: mnw at October 10, 2024 04:55 PM (NLIak)
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RCP Betting odds are jumping as well.

Posted by: WisRich at October 10, 2024 05:03 PM (G0vdT)

145 140 Not even close, buster.
Posted by: The Way We Were

Get in line.
Posted by: Love Story

*sigh*

Posted by: plan 9 from outer space at October 10, 2024 05:03 PM (sGtp+)

146 "'Joker: Folie a Deux' Has a Message for Fans: Go F-ck Yourselves."

Joker can dig that. Some people just want to watch the whole fanbase burn.

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Healthful Glow at October 10, 2024 05:03 PM (Vd4Ob)

147 Hollywood is full of whiny man-babies and angry lesbians. Those are the people making movies now.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 10, 2024 04:59 PM

And that right there is why sold movie seat tickets are down almost 50% post covid.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 10, 2024 05:03 PM (QNSds)

148 142 The only good part in Joe vs The Volcano was the opening where he is trapped in his dead end office with the Fluorescent Lights buzzing.

i thought it was a very interesting movie, from a luggage perspective.

Posted by: anachronda at October 10, 2024 05:04 PM (sGtp+)

149 Most painful movie experiences… I’ll start.. Bridges of Madison County…

Posted by: tubal at October 10, 2024 05:04 PM (PCK5/)

150
Okay, here's the thing that puzzles me.

The studio paid Phillips $20M and from the get-go, he's basically telling them to go fuck themselves on a $200M movie.

If I were running the place, this is the point I pull Phillips aside and we have a bit of a talk. If I'm not satisfied, he gets pulled. The movie shuts down.

Even if you have to pay this dildo some money, it's better than losing the whole $200M plus the $200M spend on advertising.

Then, I'd make sure that a-hole never worked again.

Man, I wish those clowns would give me $20M like it was Monopoly money for my $200M budgeted all-singin', all-dancin' remake of "Godzilla VS Biollante".

Posted by: naturalfake at October 10, 2024 05:04 PM (eDfFs)

151 Cesar Romero was unavailable for comment.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 10, 2024 05:04 PM (Rbu5d)

152 130 "37 Can anyone name a real Blockbuster movie that has been made this century?"

LOTR, before H'wood f'd that up as well.
Posted by: Martin Tell

The first Deadpool movie was quite the financial success, as I understand. The first few Marvel movies leading up to endgame, too.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 10, 2024 05:04 PM (JCZqz)

153 Whew! I'm finally not the worst film ever!
Posted by: Joe Versus the Volcano at October 10, 2024 04:57 PM

Hah. I finally watched that a few years back, looking forward to it thanks to the general goodwill and praise it got whenever it was mentioned. Also, Meg Ryan.

But it was fucking garbage. Grade A 99 44/100% pure hot fucking garbage.

Posted by: spindrift at October 10, 2024 05:05 PM (OguvZ)

154 TJM have you done a James Cameron movie review?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 10, 2024 05:05 PM (zn6Ro)

155 Okay, Let's start with basics:

1) if you could make the first film for $60, why the fuck do you need $200 million to make the second? Imagine this second film is a $60 million film, and you just scored $37 million. You are well on the road to breakeven, right? So problem #1 is you spent WAY too much money.

2) The only person you HAD to have was Joaquin Phoenix. I assume, on the first movie, you weren't stupid enough to have him sign a one picture deal, right? Same with the director. Right? RIGHT?

3) What should this movie have been about? About the rise of Joker in Gotham's underworld. How he gets and hold power. How he inspires others.

4) That would have led directly to Batman V Joker. Using the 2022 Batman versus the Joaquin Phoenix Joker. It would have made fucking bank. Dark, gritty, psychological.

Sweet lord these people are stupid.

Posted by: El Mariachi at October 10, 2024 05:05 PM (nLFEI)

156 153 Whew! I'm finally not the worst film ever!
Posted by: Joe Versus the Volcano at October 10, 2024 04:57 PM

Hah. I finally watched that a few years back, looking forward to it thanks to the general goodwill and praise it got whenever it was mentioned. Also, Meg Ryan.

But it was fucking garbage. Grade A 99 44/100% pure hot fucking garbage.

obviously, you didn't have enough orange soda on hand to enjoy it.

Posted by: anachronda at October 10, 2024 05:06 PM (sGtp+)

157 147 Hollywood is full of whiny man-babies and angry lesbians. Those are the people making movies now.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 10, 2024 04:59 PM

And that right there is why sold movie seat tickets are down almost 50% post covid.
Posted by: Mister Scott

It's a total mystery. "Bros" was hilarious, and totally relatable!

Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at October 10, 2024 05:06 PM (JCZqz)

158 Most painful movie experiences… I’ll start.. Bridges of Madison County…
Posted by: tubal at October 10, 2024 05:04 PM (PCK5/)

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Rom coms. All of them.

Posted by: Jordan61 at October 10, 2024 05:06 PM (DRSnL)

159 Joe Versus the Volcano

Isn't that the movie where he has a brain cloud ?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 10, 2024 05:06 PM (IyPmt)

160 140 Not even close, buster.
Posted by: The Way We Were

Get in line.
Posted by: Love Story

*sigh*

Posted by: plan 9 from outer space at October 10, 2024 05:03 PM

Leonard Part 6 has entered the chat

Posted by: Frank Barone at October 10, 2024 05:06 PM (+oR7L)

161 general goodwill and praise it got whenever it was mentioned. Also, Meg Ryan.

But it was fucking garbage. Grade A 99 44/100% pure hot fucking garbage.
Posted by: spindrift at October 10, 2024 05:05 PM (OguvZ)
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yada yada yada.. Meg Ryan (in her prime)...

Posted by: WisRich at October 10, 2024 05:06 PM (G0vdT)

162 Gable and Lombard, except nobody saw it (or ever even heard of it) except me.

Grease 2, you say? I enjoyed it... because I love having a movie theatre all to myself.

Posted by: mnw at October 10, 2024 05:06 PM (NLIak)

163 The sad part is Joe vs the Volcano was probably peak Meg Ryan hot.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 10, 2024 05:07 PM (OVDcz)

164 Speaking of complete f*cking idiot entertainment companies, videogame publisher Ubisoft has stepped on it's dick. Again. They've been caught selling customer data to the highest bidder.

Ubisoft has announced that their tent pole project will be to release ten Assassin's Creed games in the next five years in some sort of interrelated world way. The only problem is that their release of the first of the ten, Shaddows, will almost certainly bomb badly losing them many score millions, or even hundreds of millions, of dollars such that their survival is questionable.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 10, 2024 05:07 PM (L/fGl)

165 Leonard Part 6 has entered the chat
Posted by: Frank Barone at October 10, 2024 05:06 PM (+oR7L)

Gigli.. waves

Posted by: It's me donna at October 10, 2024 05:07 PM (IyPmt)

166 Worst movie ever was The Postman.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 10, 2024 05:07 PM (rgnea)

167 Worst movie? The Streisand / Kristofferson version of a "A Star is Born."

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 10, 2024 05:07 PM (2NjxG)

168 *sigh*
Posted by: plan 9 from outer space
......

I've never seen it but just the title makes it a great movie.

Posted by: wth at October 10, 2024 05:07 PM (v0R5T)

169 Oddly enough, I have problems with the idea of making it a musical - it could have worked if done correctly, using the musical numbers as a way to illustrate his psychotic breaks (and joint psychotic episodes with Harley, which would have been on-brand for the characters).

The problem, as always lately, is that the idea of making a cohesive STORY that is compelling for the audience takes a back seat to whatever MESSAGE the directory wants to send (which is pretty much all the same message these days, leading to things being not only annoying, but mindlessly boring as well). And in this case, it seems the story wasn't just put in the backseat, it was stuffed into the trunk after it was brutally murdered.

I had high hoped for this movie, but I won't be seeing it now.

Posted by: can of spam at October 10, 2024 05:07 PM (7oNMO)

170 Lady G really likes to costume up.

You know, I watched more than a few clips from LG's version of "A Star is Born." She was not unattractive, actually. Medium brown hair, no outlandish makeup, average clothes.

I am now convinced that her turn in ASiB was the actual costume flick for her, and everything else is her 'normal.'

Maybe she can feed Gretch the Wretch a dorito.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 10, 2024 05:07 PM (Rbu5d)

171 Todd Phillips forced us at gunpoint to pay him $20 million and give him absolute control over the movie.

Posted by: Warner Executives at October 10, 2024 05:08 PM (ycU6/)

172 Checking wiki the top 5 money making movies are:

Avatar
Avengers: Endgame
Avatar: The Way of Water
Titanic
Star Wars: The Force Awakens

Most of the movies on the list are mindless action flicks (like 4 of these 5) or kids movies.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 10, 2024 05:08 PM (oZhjI)

173 (That should be I have NO problems with it being a musical, in theory, failure to proofread)

Posted by: can of spam at October 10, 2024 05:08 PM (7oNMO)

174 168 *sigh*
Posted by: plan 9 from outer space
.

But Ed Wood was good

Posted by: It's me donna at October 10, 2024 05:08 PM (IyPmt)

175 160 Leonard Part 6 has entered the chat

still haven't seen parts 1 through 5

Posted by: anachronda at October 10, 2024 05:08 PM (sGtp+)

176 Ubisoft has announced that their tent pole project will be to release ten Assassin's Creed games in the next five years in some sort of interrelated world way. The only problem is that their release of the first of the ten, Shaddows, will almost certainly bomb badly losing them many score millions, or even hundreds of millions, of dollars such that their survival is questionable.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 10, 2024 05:07 PM (L/fGl)
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Good. It's always been a terrible company. I've enjoyed a few of their games (Far Cry 3, 4, 5), but that's as far as it goes.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 10, 2024 05:08 PM (7fElN)

177 Never saw the Joaquin Phoenix Joker film

But

Keith Ledger's Joker was absolutely EPIC. That was by far the best Batman film ever produced.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 10, 2024 05:08 PM (17s+e)

178 Ishtar at least had boobs.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 10, 2024 05:08 PM (OVDcz)

179 Looking For Mr Goodbar is my pick for worst movie.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 10, 2024 05:08 PM (zn6Ro)

180
I'm gonna throw whoever this is into the Big Woo.

Joe v the Volcano is wonderful.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

You have a brain cloud too?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 10, 2024 05:09 PM (DSRy7)

181 Whew! I'm finally not the worst film ever!
Posted by: Joe Versus the Volcano at October 10, 2024 04:57 PM

Excuse Me?
Posted by: Face/Off at October 10, 2024 05:01 PM (+oR7L)

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You people have obviously never experienced Dennis Hopper's The Last Movie.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 10, 2024 05:01 PM (GBKbO)

there were so many drugs involved in that whole movie production that-

I'm gonna call "The Last Movie" - The First, Last, and Best Libertarian Party Evah!

Posted by: naturalfake at October 10, 2024 05:09 PM (eDfFs)

182 Rocky II, III, IV and any others that I have missed…

Posted by: tubal at October 10, 2024 05:09 PM (PCK5/)

183 178 Ishtar at least had boobs.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 10, 2024 05:08 PM (OVDcz)

Besides Dustin Hoffman ?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 10, 2024 05:09 PM (IyPmt)

184 149 Most painful movie experiences… I’ll start.. Bridges of Madison County…
Posted by: tubal

Lost in Translation. Boring and pointless. Not even a young, hot Scarlett Johansson could make it bearable.

"Bridges of Madison County" was probably much worse, but I wouldn't even give something like it a chance.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 10, 2024 05:09 PM (JCZqz)

185 Women who perform the act of fellatio and swallow semen on a regular basis, one to two times a week, may reduce their risk of breast cancer by up to 40 percent, a North Carolina State University study found.

I am doing my part to find a cure for Breast Cancer.......

Posted by: Bill Clinton at October 10, 2024 05:09 PM (hbjSA)

186 If this is the "why the hell did I watch this steaming pile of garbage" thread, I nominate "(roosteremoji) Blockers".

Posted by: qAxSt at October 10, 2024 05:09 PM (cOe/T)

187 144 Badger fan

Indeed they ARE!

Posted by: mnw at October 10, 2024 05:09 PM (NLIak)

188 166 Worst movie ever was The Postman.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 10, 2024 05:07 PM

LOL. The funniest part of that movie was seeing Tom Petty as a post apocalyptic savior tough guy.

Posted by: Frank Barone at October 10, 2024 05:09 PM (+oR7L)

189 Meanwhile The Penquin on HBO/Max is outstanding. Go figure.

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 10, 2024 05:10 PM (Amz76)

190 Farcry 3, 4 good. 5 from a gameplay perspective was not bad- but the general creepy Christian fundamentalist vibe wears thin.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 10, 2024 05:10 PM (OVDcz)

191 Most painful movie experiences… I’ll start.. Bridges of Madison County…
Posted by: tubal

Legends of the Fall. I was told it was a comedy.

It was like the Book of Job on film, for the characters and me.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 10, 2024 05:10 PM (lTGtQ)

192 Besides Dustin Hoffman ?
Posted by: It's me donna at October 10, 2024 05:09 PM (IyPmt)

This it was ... Isabella Adjani?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 10, 2024 05:10 PM (OVDcz)

193 I feared it would go down like "Scarface," as a fictive role model for sick minds.

What? Did I somehow miss a bunch of copycat Tony Montanas in the 80's?

Posted by: Chuck C at October 10, 2024 05:11 PM (yOPBE)

194 I can't put any post apocalyptic movie in the worst category. That's one of my top three favorite genres.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 10, 2024 05:11 PM (zn6Ro)

195 Joe v the Volcano is wonderful.

I have no response to that.

Wifey and I saw "Joe" for probably the tenth time last week [total times, not all in one week. What do you think I am? a Joker?]

Buy DVDs of great movies while you can!

Posted by: Martin Tell at October 10, 2024 05:11 PM (sFNX2)

196 Worst movie? Jacob's Ladder w/ Tim Robbins. It's the only movie I considered walking out of halfway through. None of the chafracters were at all likable or compelling; there seemed little suspense; and the "surprise" ending went right back to an original Twilight Zone episode.

I've never considered re-watching it at home.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 10, 2024 05:11 PM (J2vNu)

197 167 Pilgrim

A worthy nominee!

Posted by: mnw at October 10, 2024 05:11 PM (NLIak)

198 If Walz played The Joker the movie would have been a hit.

He is perfect for the part and no rehearsal required.....

Posted by: buster Hymandd at October 10, 2024 05:12 PM (Qfk4E)

199 178 Ishtar at least had boobs.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 10, 2024 05:08 PM (OVDcz)
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I'm probably the only one here, none of my friends liked it but I laughed non stop through Ishtar. Thought it was hilarious.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 10, 2024 05:12 PM (17s+e)

200 Phillips should've made "Road Trip 2"

Posted by: Bear 469 at October 10, 2024 05:12 PM (tK/Yu)

201 Farcry 3, 4 good. 5 from a gameplay perspective was not bad- but the general creepy Christian fundamentalist vibe wears thin.

The sound track for 5 is amazing though it made me want to go join the "badguys" https://tinyurl.com/3ac2pu9e

Posted by: 18-1 at October 10, 2024 05:12 PM (oZhjI)

202 Gigli.. waves
Posted by: It's me donna

Classic. I think this clip earned it a Razzy: https://tinyurl.com/4nyr9vxf

Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 10, 2024 05:12 PM (JCZqz)

203 My high school girlfriend made me sit through The Way We Were. It stunk, however I did get lucky after.

Posted by: wth at October 10, 2024 05:12 PM (v0R5T)

204 191 Legends of the Fall. I was told it was a comedy.

It was like the Book of Job on film, for the characters and me.

friend of mine was out of pocket for the theatrical run of brazil. when he returned, we made him watch it.

him: is this a comedy?
us: we like to think so.

Posted by: anachronda at October 10, 2024 05:12 PM (sGtp+)

205 Did I somehow miss a bunch of copycat Tony Montanas in the 80's?

Only the best one

Posted by: Cocaine Bear at October 10, 2024 05:12 PM (cOe/T)

206
The Remains of the day.

My God. That movie was a dredge.

Posted by: Frank Barone at October 10, 2024 05:12 PM (+oR7L)

207 I'm probably the only one here, none of my friends liked it but I laughed non stop through Ishtar. Thought it was hilarious.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 10, 2024 05:12 PM (17s+e

I laughed through Black Panther.. Thought it was a comedy

Posted by: It's me donna at October 10, 2024 05:13 PM (IyPmt)

208 What should this movie have been about? About the rise of Joker in Gotham's underworld. How he gets and hold power. How he inspires others.

Let's expand on that - the first movie ripped off Taxi driver and King of Comedy, the second should steal from King of New York:

"A psychotic drug lord leaves prison bent on sharing his profits with the poor, but finds that the streets are tougher than when he left and that there is no way of washing the blood from his dirty money."

Then move into Scarface. Again, this story would be about the Joker's rise to being the ultimate power in Gotham, hated and feared.

Posted by: El Mariachi at October 10, 2024 05:13 PM (nLFEI)

209 Chris Christie starring in the remake of ......

THE BLOB

Posted by: buster Hymandd at October 10, 2024 05:13 PM (Qfk4E)

210 Worst movie I ever saw was In and Out. My friend group regularly went out together and I thought it was just a stupid Rom Com but no...they had to gay it up...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 10, 2024 05:13 PM (oZhjI)

211 Legends of the Fall. I was told it was a comedy.

It was like the Book of Job on film, for the characters and me.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 10, 2024 05:10 PM (lTGtQ)

I loved Legends of the Fall . Watch it every time I come across it on TV.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 10, 2024 05:13 PM (zn6Ro)

212 Birdemic on Rifftrax. Not only have most people never seen a movie that bad, most people have never even conceived of a movie that bad.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 10, 2024 05:13 PM (Df/yq)

213 “Obamacare has failed in every particular – it failed to make health care more affordable; it failed to improve the health of Americans; it piled on an enormous amount of additional debt on taxpayers; it has principally enriched massive insurance company conglomerates, and it now serves as a major impediment to real heath care reforms that would empower patients and doctors,” Phil Kerpen, American Commitment and Unleash Prosperity president and one of the study’s co-authors, told the DCNF. “As we show in this paper, every single promise that was made to pass this law turned out to be false.”

Pelosi: "We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it."

.. seems it was a turd

Hilly Holbrook: [about the pie] What do you put in here that makes it taste so good?
Minny Jackson: That good vanilla from Mexico and something else real special.

Posted by: SMOD at October 10, 2024 05:14 PM (RHGPo)

214 Id like to know why it suddenly costs $200 million to do almost any movie these days

thats a lot of inflation even for today

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at October 10, 2024 05:14 PM (M7vhK)

215
I don't get the hatred for Joe Vs the Volcano.

That's just a fun movie.

Someone's gonna have to 'sprain me why they hate it so much.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 10, 2024 05:14 PM (eDfFs)

216 209 Chris Christie starring in the remake of ......

THE BLOB
Posted by: buster Hymandd at October 10, 2024 05:13 PM (Qfk4E)

Nah.. The Blob moves faster than Christie

Posted by: It's me donna at October 10, 2024 05:14 PM (IyPmt)

217 For worst movie ever a case can be made for calling it a tie between these three: Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, Tommy, and The Wiz.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 10, 2024 05:14 PM (2NjxG)

218 Shorter In and Out: stereotypes are always right.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 10, 2024 05:15 PM (OVDcz)

219 The Remains of the day.

My God. That movie was a dredge.

Posted by: Frank Barone

I think I still have my Remains of the Day lunchbox.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 10, 2024 05:15 PM (lTGtQ)

220 Posted by: 18-1 at October 10, 2024 05:13 PM (oZhjI)

Only gay adjacent movie I liked is Three to Tango with Mathew Perry. Really funny.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 10, 2024 05:15 PM (zn6Ro)

221 If this is the "why the hell did I watch this steaming pile of garbage" thread, I nominate "(roosteremoji) Blockers".
Posted by: qAxSt
......

That stinker was on TV the other night, I couldn't turn the channel fast enough.

Posted by: wth at October 10, 2024 05:15 PM (v0R5T)

222 I laughed through Black Panther.. Thought it was a comedy
Posted by: It's me donna at October 10, 2024 05:13 PM (IyPmt)

Black Panther - the story of what could have been if Africans acted like Europeans.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 10, 2024 05:15 PM (Df/yq)

223 Id like to know why it suddenly costs $200 million to do almost any movie these days

thats a lot of inflation even for today

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger

One word: money laundering.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 10, 2024 05:16 PM (lTGtQ)

224 I heard the movie "Love Story" was about Bill and Hillary Clinton !!!!!!!!!

Cackle.......... Cackle.......... Cackle..

Posted by: Kamal Harris at October 10, 2024 05:16 PM (BSF0H)

225 Obamacare has failed in every particular – it failed to make health care more affordable; it failed to improve the health of Americans

*****************

I used Obamacare for a while, the insurance dropped coverage of lab tests by Quest and Labscorp (the two most popular labs in the country), denied coverages for several Rx, then raised my premium to $700 a month

they can go horsefuck Doug Emhoff

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at October 10, 2024 05:16 PM (M7vhK)

226 Black Panther - the story of what could have been if Africans acted like Europeans.
Posted by: Tom Servo

Building a wall to keep out primitive foreigners is okay when Black people do it!

Posted by: Deep Thoughts at October 10, 2024 05:17 PM (JCZqz)

227 I have a cousin who is a center-liberal, an actor, and he hates all the new DC movies. He feels Hollywood has wrecked them. So it's not just righties that hate them.

Posted by: PJU at October 10, 2024 05:17 PM (RRCAT)

228 I don't get the hatred for Joe Vs the Volcano.

That's just a fun movie.

Someone's gonna have to 'sprain me why they hate it so much.

Posted by: naturalfake

I suppose if you treat it like an acid trip, more or less like Alice in Wonderland.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 10, 2024 05:17 PM (lTGtQ)

229 "Black Panther - the story of what could have been if Africans acted like Europeans."

So, Botswana.

Posted by: Or maybe Rhodesia before Jimmy Carter at October 10, 2024 05:17 PM (X6iBy)

230 167 Worst movie? The Streisand / Kristofferson version of a "A Star is Born."

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 10, 2024 05:07 PM (2NjxG)
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Agreed that was terrible. That nose. With all that money, get it fixed.
Also 'Out Of Africa', 'The English Patient', "The World According To Garp", 'Death In Venice", ...... many more, usually nominated for oscars, etc.!

Posted by: Ciampino - a laugh a minute every second at October 10, 2024 05:18 PM (qfLjt)

231 I suppose if you treat it like an acid trip, more or less like Alice in Wonderland.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

C'mon, man! Alice was WAY hotter than Meg Ryan!

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 10, 2024 05:18 PM (JCZqz)

232 One word: money laundering.

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Well, I hope they're using environmentally friendly, carbon neutral detergent to launder the money!

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at October 10, 2024 05:18 PM (M7vhK)

233
No comic book based movies should ever be a musical. How did they ever think this was going to be good, or make money? They didn't have money to burn, so why? You couldn't have sabotaged your own studio more if you'd burned it down with gasoline. At least then you'd have some insurance pay out.

Posted by: Frank Barone at October 10, 2024 05:18 PM (+oR7L)

234 From the wiki page about the novel The Postman:
"Another message of the plot deals with the backstory of the post-apocalyptic world: specifically, that it was not the electronics-destroying EMPs, the destruction of major cities, or the release of various bio-engineered plagues that completely destroyed society, but rather it was the Holnists, who preyed on humanitarian workers and attacked communities during this difficult period."

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 10, 2024 05:18 PM (FnneF)

235 The running joke in my house is: "It's a comedy, like Legends of the Fall."

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 10, 2024 05:19 PM (lTGtQ)

236 >>> 223
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One word: money laundering.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 10, 2024 05:16 PM (lTGtQ)

Zelenskyy's going to be upset it wasn't routed through KEEEV.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 10, 2024 05:20 PM (FnneF)

237 No comic book based movies should ever be a musical.

Posted by: Frank Barone

I'd like to see Titanic as a musical, especially the finale.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 10, 2024 05:20 PM (lTGtQ)

238 The "Crow" remake really should have been a musical.

Posted by: Victims, aren't we all at October 10, 2024 05:21 PM (X6iBy)

239 No comic book based movies should ever be a musical.

Posted by: Frank Barone

I'd like to see Titanic as a musical, especially the finale.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

That might be a hit at ice cream socials.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 10, 2024 05:21 PM (VNX3d)

240 226 Black Panther - the story of what could have been if Africans acted like Europeans.
Posted by: Tom Servo

Building a wall to keep out primitive foreigners is okay when Black people do it!
Posted by: Deep Thoughts at October 10, 2024 05:17 PM (JCZqz)

Oh, the story of a Racist Monarchy where the only Rule is Might makes Right? and the King can kill anyone they want, with no repercussion?

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 10, 2024 05:21 PM (QAkQ3)

241
Agreed that was terrible. That nose. With all that money, get it fixed.
Posted by: Ciampino

She checked into getting it fixed... they told her it would change her voice and she decided not to get the nose job.
(She might be crazy; but early on, she could sing.)

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 10, 2024 05:21 PM (DSRy7)

242 Another truly awful movie

Rhinestone

Posted by: Love Story at October 10, 2024 05:21 PM (4XwPj)

243 I didn't hate some of the worst movies listed .

That said a movie many liked including the critics is on my possible worst list . There Will Be Blood.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 10, 2024 05:21 PM (zn6Ro)

244 "It's a divisive ending. And the original version was worse."

Couldn't find anything online, what was Joker 2's original ending supposed to be?

Posted by: Bubba at October 10, 2024 05:21 PM (mugwa)

245 Good. It's always been a terrible company. I've enjoyed a few of their games (Far Cry 3, 4, 5), but that's as far as it goes.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

I've come 180 degrees on this. First, I was all Ubisoft can't die. They've made some of my favorite games! Now I'm all Unisoft must die pour encourager les autres.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 10, 2024 05:21 PM (L/fGl)

246 The remake of Crow will probably be a duck.

Posted by: Eromero at October 10, 2024 05:22 PM (o2ZRX)

247 I wonder if anyone ever thought to make a musical of the Helen Keller story?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 10, 2024 05:22 PM (lTGtQ)

248 That "toxic minority" sure seems to be kicking some major cultural war ass recently by simply shutting their wallets and not buying the Woke crap anymore.

Also happening in the gaming industry. Triple A companies are being brought to the brink of bankruptcy because their games have gone completely Woke and their response is to attack the fans as racists. Ubisoft is a great current example.

Posted by: Biergood at October 10, 2024 05:22 PM (PwgSL)

249 The Dresser… in the theater… people who were watching it were cutting themselves..

Posted by: tubal at October 10, 2024 05:22 PM (PCK5/)

250 Oh, the story of a Racist Monarchy where the only Rule is Might makes Right? and the King can kill anyone they want, with no repercussion?
Posted by: Romeo13

*takes notes*

Posted by: Richard II at October 10, 2024 05:22 PM (X6iBy)

251 167 Worst movie? The Streisand / Kristofferson version of a "A Star is Born."

Kristofferson did kill himself at the end, so it's got that going for it. Being married to Babs, who could blame him?

Posted by: Martin Tell at October 10, 2024 05:23 PM (sFNX2)

252 I went to the 1st Joker movie and found it somewhat interesting, but I remember thinking there was no way there could be a sequel, because that quite clearly wasn't the Joker. Mental issues aside, the Joker is eloquent and somewhat charming, while Phoenix's character was, let's face it, mentally handicapped.

Posted by: Wally at October 10, 2024 05:23 PM (NXYp1)

253 247 I wonder if anyone ever thought to make a musical of the Helen Keller story?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 10, 2024 05:22 PM (lTGtQ)
Helen was deaf, don’t you see?

Posted by: Eromero at October 10, 2024 05:23 PM (o2ZRX)

254 Beaches…

Posted by: tubal at October 10, 2024 05:23 PM (PCK5/)

255 "The Acolyte" was the latest high-profile target of "toxic fandom," the catchall term for when fan criticism curdles from good-faith dissatisfaction into a relentlessly negative, often bigoted online campaign against either the project or its stars or creative leaders.
__________________

Whereas the "stars" and "creative leaders" went out of their way to offend normal white males, said so in so many words, and were proud of it.

I believe we were discussing "bigotry?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 10, 2024 05:23 PM (YqDXo)

256 The next movie should be a cross between "who is killing the great chefs of Europe" and "Murder on the Orient Express", where someone is killing all the Hollywood execs in the most ingenious ways and it turns out the be all the superheroes.

Posted by: lonetown at October 10, 2024 05:24 PM (3DQGy)

257 All Ingmar Bergman movies…

Posted by: tubal at October 10, 2024 05:24 PM (PCK5/)

258 Worst ideas for remakes as musicals? Lawrence of Arabia, Toxie The Toxic Avenger, 12 Angry Men?

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 10, 2024 05:24 PM (2NjxG)

259 Kristofferson did kill himself at the end, so it's got that going for it. Being married to Babs, who could blame him?
_______________

That's it, Kris, take the easy way out.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 10, 2024 05:24 PM (YqDXo)

260 Helen was deaf, don’t you see?

Posted by: Eromero

Well, you could get Yoko to do the Helen solos.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 10, 2024 05:25 PM (lTGtQ)

261 Worst ideas for remakes as musicals? Lawrence of Arabia, Toxie The Toxic Avenger, 12 Angry Men?

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 10, 2024 05:24 PM (2NjxG)
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Schindler's List.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 10, 2024 05:25 PM (YqDXo)

262 The Tin Drum… another euthanasia movie…

Posted by: tubal at October 10, 2024 05:25 PM (PCK5/)

263 Worst ideas for remakes as musicals? Lawrence of Arabia, Toxie The Toxic Avenger, 12 Angry Men?
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 10, 2024 05:24 PM (2NjxG)

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EXCUSE ME, but it's 12 Angry JURORS.

Posted by: Jordan61 at October 10, 2024 05:25 PM (DRSnL)

264 "I never heard about toxic fandom when Star Trek was making its movies through The Next Generation."

...it wasn't mentioned with DS9 and Voyager, either, featuring Trek's first black commanding officer and Trek's first woman CO. (Deep Space Nine is considered by many, myself included, to be Trek's high-water mark.)

No one had a problem with Lando Calrissian, Ripley, or Sarah Connor, either.

Fans haven't been radicalized in the interim, Hollywood has become so radical that normal looks extreme in comparison.

Posted by: Bubba at October 10, 2024 05:25 PM (mugwa)

265 The remake of Crow will probably be a duck.
Posted by: Eromero

They're remaking Howard the Duck?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 10, 2024 05:26 PM (VNX3d)

266 Best movie about a psychopath was King of Comedy.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 10, 2024 05:26 PM (zn6Ro)

267 Ryan George's Pitch Meeting on this one is hilarious. It just dropped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ufar-niEtA

Posted by: Orson at October 10, 2024 05:26 PM (dIske)

268 Last four movies I saw I really enjoyed:

Reagan

Am I racist?

Sound of Freedom

Cabrini

None of which, I think were made by big, well known Hollywood studios,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 10, 2024 05:27 PM (MQJVv)

269
Alice doesn't live here anymore. snoozer movie.

Another Kristoferson movie.

Posted by: Frank Barone at October 10, 2024 05:27 PM (+oR7L)

270 256 The next movie should be a cross between "who is killing the great chefs of Europe" and "Murder on the Orient Express", where someone is killing all the Hollywood execs in the most ingenious ways and it turns out the be all the superheroes.
Posted by: lonetown at October 10, 2024 05:24 PM (3DQGy)

Death Wish update... where Paul's Grandaughter somehow gets pulled into the Diddy crowd.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 10, 2024 05:27 PM (QAkQ3)

271
They're remaking Howard the Duck?

Anyone else suddenly feeling a little...hot...under the collar?

Posted by: Lea Thompson at October 10, 2024 05:27 PM (oZhjI)

272 The Tin Drum… another euthanasia movie…
Posted by: tubal at October 10, 2024 05:25 PM (PCK5/)

You know, I enjoyed reading "The Tin Drum" long ago and far away,

so I was excited to see the movie....though I didn't quite see how they could do it.

And they didn't.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 10, 2024 05:27 PM (eDfFs)

273 Worst movie? The Streisand / Kristofferson version of a "A Star is Born."

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 10, 2024 05:07 PM (2NjxG)
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Agreed that was terrible. That nose.
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Does Streisand even have binocular vision?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 10, 2024 05:28 PM (YqDXo)

274 268 Last four movies I saw I really enjoyed:

Reagan

Am I racist?

Sound of Freedom

Cabrini

None of which, I think were made by big, well known Hollywood studios,
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 10, 2024 05:27 PM (MQJVv)

Reagan was very good.

Posted by: tubal at October 10, 2024 05:28 PM (PCK5/)

275 261 Worst ideas for remakes as musicals? Lawrence of Arabia, Toxie The Toxic Avenger, 12 Angry Men?

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 10, 2024 05:24 PM (2NjxG)
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Schindler's List.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 10, 2024 05:25 PM (YqDXo)

Outlaw Josey Wales would be bad, but could be made hilarious

Posted by: A dude in MI at October 10, 2024 05:28 PM (/6GbT)

276 It is kind of stunning how so many people have so segmented what they will listen to. The studios, like Budweiser and others, apparently only listen to five percent of the country, and believe that is what everyone wants.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 10, 2024 04:36 PM (lTGtQ)

The bad old corporate office used to look at profit and loss.

The new corporate office look at their own feelings and since they are woke college brats with a hatred of the bottom line they have no idea what is going on.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 10, 2024 05:28 PM (n7h9X)

277 272 The Tin Drum… another euthanasia movie…
Posted by: tubal at October 10, 2024 05:25 PM (PCK5/)

You know, I enjoyed reading "The Tin Drum" long ago and far away,

so I was excited to see the movie....though I didn't quite see how they could do it.

And they didn't.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 10, 2024 05:27 PM (eDfFs)

Absolutely terrible movie… depressing in the extreme, and made no sense.

Posted by: tubal at October 10, 2024 05:29 PM (PCK5/)

278 They didn't do a Fauci movie...
[Looks it up]
... what the blistering hell

Posted by: qAxSt at October 10, 2024 05:29 PM (X6iBy)

279 John Wick 10 will be a musical.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 10, 2024 05:29 PM (zn6Ro)

280
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The new Pope will be a trans (intersex) female
Fuck you Hollywood FUUUUCCCCCCKKKK YOU
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at October 10, 2024 04:36 PM (G734x)

well if the intersex was actually Catholic it might be an improvement.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 10, 2024 05:30 PM (n7h9X)

281 NOOD Quick Hits

Posted by: Jordan61 at October 10, 2024 05:30 PM (DRSnL)

282 Outlaw Josey Wales would be bad, but could be made hilarious
Posted by: A dude in MI at October 10, 2024 05:28 PM (/6GbT)

For a Few Dollars More... the story of the Biden Family.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 10, 2024 05:30 PM (QAkQ3)

283 Saving Private Ryan II - the Musical: Earn This... The Show Must Go On!

Posted by: goatexchange at October 10, 2024 05:30 PM (hyS0X)

284 My three and half cents:

Some people make movies for the fans. Those movies do well.

Some people make movies for art. Those movies don't do so well but are later cherished.

Some people make movies for political statements. Those movies neither do well or are cherished later.

You can guess where Joker 2: The Dark Turd fits.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 10, 2024 05:31 PM (q7hip)

285 Reagan was very good.
Posted by: tubal

Dennis Quaid is no Randy Quaid.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 10, 2024 05:31 PM (2NjxG)

286 For worst movie nominations, please consider:

A Cure For Wellness

If that one doesn't make you want to take a shit on your seat before you exit the theater, you are a more generous and kind soul than me.

Posted by: surprisingly not amber heard at October 10, 2024 05:31 PM (12gd1)

287 Apparently the IDF missed their target in Beirut.

The goatfucking terrorist seemed to have survived.

Do better, Mossad.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 10, 2024 05:31 PM (ufFY8)

288 Best movie about a psychopath was King of Comedy.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 10, 2024 05:26 PM (zn6Ro)

Which the street tells me Joker 1 was copied from almost totally.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 10, 2024 05:32 PM (n7h9X)

289 My three and half cents:

Some people make movies for the fans. Those movies do well.

Some people make movies for art. Those movies don't do so well but are later cherished.

Some people make movies for political statements. Those movies neither do well or are cherished later.

You can guess where Joker 2: The Dark Turd fits.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 10, 2024 05:31 PM (q7hip)

None of the above.

This one was made to outrage the fans and steal money from the studio.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 10, 2024 05:33 PM (n7h9X)

290 Politico has adopted an Ubisoft-like strategy, lying and blaming their audience for their bigotry and stupidity.

POLITICO
@politico
Harris is riding a dream economy into the election. It may be too late for voters to notice.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 10, 2024 05:34 PM (L/fGl)

291 ...it wasn't mentioned with DS9 and Voyager, either, featuring Trek's first black commanding officer and Trek's first woman CO. (Deep Space Nine is considered by many, myself included, to be Trek's high-water mark.)

No one had a problem with Lando Calrissian, Ripley, or Sarah Connor, either.

Fans haven't been radicalized in the interim, Hollywood has become so radical that normal looks extreme in comparison.
Posted by: Bubba at October 10, 2024 05:25 PM (mugwa)

Wrath of Khan movie had a black commanding officer, he kills himself because the worm in his brain was ordering him to kill Kirk/spock

Posted by: Oldcat at October 10, 2024 05:35 PM (n7h9X)

292 Now convert that to economics..."nothing I can do will move me out of poverty so why bother trying?" and you've got the standard leftwing line...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 10, 2024 04:55 PM (oZhjI)
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Now THERE'S the old American "can do" spirit!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 10, 2024 05:35 PM (YqDXo)

293 Out of Africa was terrible.

I wonder how much worse they could re-make the movies "Thelma and Louise" and "A League of Their Own"?

Posted by: Crusader at October 10, 2024 05:37 PM (TN0g+)

294 Also happening in the gaming industry. Triple A companies are being brought to the brink of bankruptcy because their games have gone completely Woke and their response is to attack the fans as racists. Ubisoft is a great current example.
Posted by: Biergood at October 10, 2024 05:22 PM (PwgSL)

Coincidentally, Ubisoft's recent crap releases also have stupid gameplay, thin plots and lore and bugs. So introducing diversity means diversity for bad mechanics, sluggish performance, and bugs.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 10, 2024 05:39 PM (n7h9X)

295
I'd like to see Titanic as a musical, especially the finale.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

Way down below the ocean
Where I wanna be, she may be

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 10, 2024 05:41 PM (63Dwl)

296 Id like to know why it suddenly costs $200 million to do almost any movie these days

thats a lot of inflation even for today
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Esteemed Trump-Ho and Searcher of Wagshambas at October 10, 2024 05:14 PM (M7vhK)

woke hangers on. No plan, No script when filming starts so when things change you have to chunk it all in the garbage can. Telling CGI workers to animate in changes to the script. Reshoots, or using CGI to avoid reshoots.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 10, 2024 05:44 PM (n7h9X)

297 There was a court scene where the midget is relating how Arthur traumatized the shit out of him. It was compelling right up until the musical number.

Musical shit broke the spell every time. So bad.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at October 10, 2024 05:44 PM (Z8Yh2)

298 Phillips is an easy name to remember. Will avoid.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at October 10, 2024 05:45 PM (Z8Yh2)

299 No one had a problem with Lando Calrissian, Ripley, or Sarah Connor, either

I saw T2 opening weekend. The loudest cheer I have ever heard in a theatre was when Sarah Conner walked out the trailer with guns and ammo to go after Cyberdyne

Posted by: Chuck C at October 10, 2024 05:48 PM (yOPBE)

300 258 Worst ideas for remakes as musicals? Lawrence of Arabia, Toxie The Toxic Avenger, 12 Angry Men?

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at October 10, 2024 05:24 PM (2NjxG)
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Lawrence of Arabia: that scene where he rides in to the encampment, filmed via a telephoto lens and he seems to be stationary? Repeat this but longer and play the whole of Ravel's Bolero (love that piece).

Posted by: Ciampino - a laugh a minute every second daily at October 10, 2024 05:49 PM (qfLjt)

301 58 id Gaga show the “girls”? That might have helped, if not..
Posted by: tubal at October 10, 2024
......

Anonymous sources tell me she has eight nipples, arranged in two rows on the underside of her abdomen.
Posted by: wth at October 10, 2024

***
That . . ch-rrrrowl . . . is hot.
Posted by: Kzinti Warriors Everywhere at October 10, 2024 04:44 PM (J2vNu)

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"Scream, and leap."

Posted by: me at October 10, 2024 07:25 PM (ieN7O)

302 This entire 'Joker' saga is such a joke. Do any of you know what Todd Phillips claim to fame is? Decades ago he made a home movie biography of 'The Karen Carpenter Story' using Ken and Barbie dolls to act out the parts. The gays all had a laugh over it because it was sooo 'camp' and "such a hoot". Naturally, based upon that, the homosexuals that run Hollyweird thought that Todd Phillips had the makings of a $200 million Hollywood blockbuster director. They're so good at gauging what the rest of North America finds entertaining.

Posted by: D-fens at October 10, 2024 07:33 PM (WTFbJ)

303 296 Id like to know why it suddenly costs $200 million to do almost any movie these days.

1) The movie costs too much, hence there is the paradox of sunk costs- when you spend too much on a movie, and it's not working, you spend even more to fix it, because you can't write off the large amount.

Say I spend $5 million making a movie, and halfway through at $2.5 million spent I realize, this isn't working. I can exit the movie. If I spend $200 million, I'm just as likely to toss another $100 million in to try and FIX what went wrong. Almost never works (Notable exception: World War Z).

2) Fix it in post mentality. Fixing things with CGI has become such a crutch, that it makes the planning for movies lax. Everything can be fixed with CGI, so why do the hard work of filming it right in the first place? But CGI is expensive, and worse, it is done in the crunch between when a movie is shot and when it is shown. So, you pay for immense amounts of crazy overtime fixing stupid mistakes you should have caught while filming.

Ideally you film a scene once according to script, and once with total ad libs. You adjust the script while filming or fix it with your second shot.

Posted by: El Mariachi at October 10, 2024 08:10 PM (nLFEI)

304 Can someone explain to me why this Politics blog continually has these articles about comic books and comic book movies? Who cares? I'd rather see articles about needlepoint.

Posted by: Comics R 4 Kidz at October 10, 2024 08:24 PM (zLdnv)

305 Who was the best Harley Quinn?

Piper Perri.

Posted by: iowaan at October 10, 2024 08:26 PM (Uj5KV)

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