Gun Thread: It's October Edition!

Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!

Holy Shitballs! How in the ever-loving Hell did it get to be October? Seems like just last week it was September! Going to be a little bit of a rip-off edition this week, guys and gals. Your ol' pal Weasel went to the farm-o this week to check on things and do some neglected chores, so I didn't have much time for Gun Thread writing.

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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FUNdamentals
Been practicing your fundamentals? Have I not harped on this enough? No matter how great a shooter you are, never ever miss an opportunity to focus on fundamentals. For example, how much thought has gone into your range watch selection? Are you unsure how to proceed in this critical area? There is no need to panic or recreate the wheel, a true-to-life, big time SF 'Operator' reveals his choices.

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1 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at October 06, 2024 07:00 PM (fwDg9)

2 Bang.

Posted by: scampydog at October 06, 2024 07:01 PM (41CYW)

3 Good evening horde. Thanks Weasel!

Posted by: TRex at October 06, 2024 07:01 PM (IQ6Gq)

4 Hello, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at October 06, 2024 07:02 PM (yRXSd)

5 Oily Fook, it's October.

Posted by: GWB at October 06, 2024 07:03 PM (DDSgs)

6 There was a combination pocket watch and pistol patented once upon a time. Where does the Special Forces community stand on this issue?

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 06, 2024 07:03 PM (Yt4b4)

7 Thanks Weasel. Safe Queens..... brain says shoot em. But I have two that only get ogled.

Posted by: scampydog at October 06, 2024 07:04 PM (41CYW)

8 Hello Gun Thread!

Safe queens is a very personal thing, I think. I don't like to own anything I don't use; it does nothing for me. So safe queens are completely out. It's easy to understand why other people would want to own something beautiful, something filled with history, or something that's like art, and never use it. It's just not for me.

I do own a couple of guns I don't shoot, but I'm just biding my time until I figure out how/where to sell them.

Posted by: Splunge at October 06, 2024 07:04 PM (hmKaK)

9 Inspect ammo!

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at October 06, 2024 07:05 PM (QSrLX)

10 Finishing up dinner. BBL.

Posted by: RI Red at October 06, 2024 07:05 PM (SuQXo)

11 Evening everyone! No range time for me, but I have been getting together what I will need for the TXMoMe.

Spotting scope - check
Tripod for scope - check
Ammo - check
Rear bags - check
Eye/ear protection - check
Chair - check

Am I forgetting something????

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 06, 2024 07:06 PM (0XVad)

12 Yay! Gubs!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 06, 2024 07:06 PM (Wnv9h)

13 Weasel or any other YouTubers not sure how it all works but other videos I subscribe to say make sure you give thumbs up and any other star rating you can

Posted by: Skip at October 06, 2024 07:06 PM (fwDg9)

14 12 days !!

Posted by: Ben Had at October 06, 2024 07:06 PM (I1GXe)

15 China exerts new restrictions on exports of minerals critical to US weapons making

https://tinyurl.com/32yj7p87

'weapons' = ammo.

Always remember, you never have enough ammo.
Stock up while the supply is available.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 06, 2024 07:07 PM (/U5Yz)

16 What is the German word for that feeling when you place a bid on Gunbroker for a gun, then spot the next day spot the same gun at your LGS at a lower price and buy it, and then get the Gunbroker notice that you have been outbid on the first gun?

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 06, 2024 07:07 PM (Yt4b4)

17 9 Inspect ammo!
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at October 06, 2024 07:05 PM (QSrLX)

Second that. I had a jammed-up pistol; slide was stuck about 3/4" out of battery, and wouldn't move at all in either direction, even when considerable force was applied. When I finally got it loose, I found a seriously defective round of Federal/American Eagle 9mm. It happens.

Posted by: Splunge at October 06, 2024 07:07 PM (hmKaK)

18 Am I forgetting something????
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 06, 2024 07:06 PM

Sun canopy?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 06, 2024 07:07 PM (Wnv9h)

19 The Browning Medalist is a work of art and craftsmanship. It is exemplary of what was once an industry that built guns that were both functional and beautiful. A piece of history. Keep it safe, in your safe. Best regards.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at October 06, 2024 07:08 PM (YVvS/)

20 Been hunting with my dad's 30.06 for many years. Will never shoot less than 1.5 inches. Even just neck sizing.

I am gonna have the action trued and have it bedded in the original walnut.

Wish me luck. I have never shot a big game animal without it

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 06, 2024 07:08 PM (WF/xn)

21 The big Texas Stars turn more slowly (to start), and it’s possible to get “fratricidal” benefit if you knock off a plate at the top and it falls and takes out another one.

Favorite stage evah was 2 big TX stars in front of a Polish plate rack (spinning version of a plate rack). Think you had to alternate each hit, star/star/rack, and of course it got crazy pretty quickly.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 06, 2024 07:08 PM (uMKV8)

22 And nice shooting Weasel, I like that target

Posted by: Skip at October 06, 2024 07:10 PM (fwDg9)

23 I do own a couple of guns I don't shoot, but I'm just biding my time until I figure out how/where to sell them.
Posted by: Splunge at October 06, 2024 07:04 PM (hmKaK)

I have a brand new 62A pump that is a safe queen

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 06, 2024 07:11 PM (WF/xn)

24 Spudboy - think it’s “Reliefungsheitfreude”.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 06, 2024 07:11 PM (uMKV8)

25 18 Sun canopy?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 06, 2024 07:07 PM

I have that, but it feels like I am forgetting something......wonder what that could be?

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 06, 2024 07:12 PM (0XVad)

26 Posted by: Skip at October 06, 2024 07:06 PM (fwDg9)
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Those help the YouTube algorithm decide to promote the videos and pay the creators zillions of dollars. I never really planned to monetize the effort and frankly am surprised anyone watches them! The M1 Carbine video has been watched something like 7,000 times!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 07:12 PM (uGpeQ)

27 Safe queens? Not in terms of keeping something pristine.

In the sense of hangar queens? The aircraft you just can't get to fly anymore but it might be useful someday*? Yeah.

(* A real hangar queen you cannibalize for parts. I don't have any guns I could scavenge because I don't have 2 of anything, really. Nowhere near that, yet.)

Posted by: GWB at October 06, 2024 07:13 PM (DDSgs)

28 Safe queens: A proper safe queen is your gold-plated commemorative "Trump" or "Reagan" 1911 with the rolled "engraving." It should be stored on top of the stack of your Franklin Mint "Star Trek" commemorative plates.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 06, 2024 07:13 PM (Yt4b4)

29 I have that, but it feels like I am forgetting something......wonder what that could be?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 06, 2024 07:12 PM

Guns?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 06, 2024 07:13 PM (Wnv9h)

30 Scuba _Dude , might want to add a gun or two in there!

Posted by: Ben Had at October 06, 2024 07:14 PM (I1GXe)

31 Have a very sick pup on my hands tonight so I'll be in and out but wanted to mention that Natchez was having a free Hazmat special and I ordered powder, primers, and bullets this week. Looking forward to my first reloading session soon.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at October 06, 2024 07:14 PM (3rnQf)

32 Tying a Package of Lettermail

How did I manage to live so long without this vital informational film? Ace should devote an entire post to this important skill. Many thanks, Weasel!

https://youtu.be/uaQm30DDHL8

Posted by: mindful webworker - What's a "letter"? at October 06, 2024 07:15 PM (JAXcl)

33 22 And nice shooting Weasel, I like that target
Posted by: Skip at October 06, 2024 07:10 PM (fwDg9)
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Thanks Skip, by that was Weasel Buddy Geoff making the target look stupid!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 07:15 PM (uGpeQ)

34 29 I have that, but it feels like I am forgetting something......wonder what that could be?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 06, 2024 07:12 PM

Guns?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 06, 2024 07:13 PM (Wnv9h)

30 Scuba _Dude , might want to add a gun or two in there!
Posted by: Ben Had at October 06, 2024 07:14 PM

Hordemind!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 06, 2024 07:15 PM (Wnv9h)

35 I can’t imagine someone not watching a gub video. It’s like eating chocolate cookies. With milk.

Posted by: Eromero at October 06, 2024 07:15 PM (DXbAa)

36 Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at October 06, 2024 07:14 PM (3rnQf)
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Oh No!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 07:17 PM (uGpeQ)

37 29 30 Scuba _Dude , might want to add a gun or two in there!

Posted by: Ben Had at October 06, 2024 07:14 PM

That's it!!!! Pew pews!!! :-)

As mentioned earlier, I am bringing down a canopy for the rifle range. A little shade never hurt.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 06, 2024 07:18 PM (0XVad)

38 25 18 Sun canopy?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 06, 2024 07:07 PM

I have that, but it feels like I am forgetting something......wonder what that could be?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 06, 2024 07:12 PM (0XVad)

Your passenger?

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at October 06, 2024 07:18 PM (v23vE)

39 That SOB Van Owen
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Sending good stuff to the pup.

Posted by: scampydog at October 06, 2024 07:19 PM (41CYW)

40 A reversed primer in a factory .38 wadcutter went, "Ffffft," in a match and cost me ten points. Awww. More recently in store bought reloads I have seen two reversed primers. I'm sure someone has typed up an article. So thats three since the 80's. Go industry!

Inspect ammo.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at October 06, 2024 07:19 PM (QSrLX)

41
I have that, but it feels like I am forgetting something......wonder what that could be?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 06, 2024 07:12 PM (0XVad)
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Hookers and blow.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 07:19 PM (uGpeQ)

42 I'm guessing none of those letters were marked "Do not fold, mutilate, or spindle."

Also, the important part here is the use of jute twine. If you're tying your letters (or parcels) with anything but jute twine, you're DOING IT WRONG. It's a FUNDAMENTAL.

Posted by: GWB at October 06, 2024 07:20 PM (DDSgs)

43 38 Your passenger?

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at October 06, 2024 07:18 PM

Who are you?

Just kiddin ;-) Looking forward to the company for this road trip.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 06, 2024 07:20 PM (0XVad)

44 Hello Weasel and fellow Horde members...
First, WOW to WBG's shooting. Someday...
Second, two range sessions this week. During the first one the shooting got a bit wonky, so stopped, went thru the 28 things on the fundamentals list, and was able to self correct. That itself is very satisfying. Shot consistently and in tight groupings. So, today I decided to change things up. Instead of shooting a mag of 5, loaded 6 and starting from a low ready position shot 2 rounds, returning to a low ready position and kept repeating. At first it was rather spastic. But I found this forced me to narrowly and quickly focus on fundamentals and it didn't take long til I was shooting primarily in the inner circle of the target. Will continue with this, speeding up the process and moving out the target...but seriously, I shot better and more consistently this way than when I was standing still and had all the time in the world

Posted by: Grateful at October 06, 2024 07:20 PM (IQ6Gq)

45 I have that, but it feels like I am forgetting something......wonder what that could be?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 06, 2024 07:12 PM (0XVad)
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Hookers and blow.
Posted by: Weasel

I was gonna say dancin' shoes, but... okay.

Posted by: She Hobbit at October 06, 2024 07:21 PM (ftFVW)

46 No. No range trip. I wish I had been.
Maybe at the end of this week, if the hotfix gets deployed on Thursday.

Posted by: GWB at October 06, 2024 07:21 PM (DDSgs)

47 Posted by: Grateful at October 06, 2024 07:20 PM (IQ6Gq)
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EXCELLENT!!!!!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 07:21 PM (uGpeQ)

48 Where does the Special Forces community stand on this issue?
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 06, 2024 07:03 PM (Yt4b4)

Right behind you. The last thing you'll hear is the ticking.

Posted by: GWB at October 06, 2024 07:22 PM (DDSgs)

49 43 38 Your passenger?

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at October 06, 2024 07:18 PM

Who are you?

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 06, 2024 07:20 PM (0XVad)

You're assuming that I know that. Some days I'm not really sure.

Evening, Gub 'ettes and 'rons, and a special it-won't-be-long-now-until-Texas greeting to our host Weasel.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at October 06, 2024 07:22 PM (v23vE)

50 Too50?
I’m getting better
No range time (church Oktoberfest all weekend)
Just dry practice with the new CZ hammer double shotgun.

Thank you Weasel and a blessed new week to everyone in the GunHorde.

Posted by: Coelacanth at October 06, 2024 07:24 PM (g+YMR)

51 Posted by: Splunge at October 06, 2024 07:04 PM (hmKaK)

I've got a number of safe queens (high condition M1911/M1911A1s, trench guns, etc.) that I won't shoot for a couple of reasons:
1) Older bluing jobs on vintage firearms aren't as durable as modern ones. Destroy the bluing and it can't be brought back unless you put more $$ into the firearm than it's worth.
2) Vintage steel isn't as strong as modern steel is. I've heard stories about people taking Gramp's old firearm out to shoot. They didn't mean to do it, but they end up cracking or destroying the firearm because Gramp's gun was too worn from previous use.

Posted by: Ed L at October 06, 2024 07:24 PM (yRXSd)

52 41 Hookers and blow.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 07:19 PM

I will leave that to you, with you and your fancy Weaselmobile. ;-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 06, 2024 07:24 PM (0XVad)

53 (peeks through window)

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at October 06, 2024 07:26 PM (sAmhv)

54 Had a very short and frustrating range trip today. Shooting the Kimber with reloads with a new-to-me bullet. Loaded 5, bang, bang, click. Wut? Unload, inspect the round. No sign of a light primer strike or any strike at all. Shrug, reload, click. Reinspect, still nothing. Figured I must have broken a firing pin. Came home, tore it down, and everything looks fine. Kicking myself that I didn't think to just put that round aside and try some others but a broken pin just seemed like the obvious answer so I didn't even try. I'll "plunk test" the rest of the rounds before the next trip.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 06, 2024 07:26 PM (/y8xj)

55 have you been to the range?

Yes. Yes, we have - with results. My shooting has been getting better in terms of grouping, but still favoring a little low and left. Flinching? Tried really hard and don't think I was flinching. Trigger? Have focused and focused on being better. Think I improved but it isn't obvious what I need to fix. Still a little low and left...

Think brain, think. Watch was an acceptable size, so wasn't that. What about the three fingers of the shooting hand wrapped around the base of the gun's grip? Are they pulling the gun when I fire? Hmmm...

Changed how much my support hand is doing which let the three fingers mostly rest rather than work to steady the gun. Bingo. Breakthrough. Grouped AND accurate. Was able to replicate. Relief.

Now need to build muscle memory with my new and improved technique with practice. We have a path forward... There is daylight.

Posted by: TRex at October 06, 2024 07:27 PM (IQ6Gq)

56 something beautiful, something filled with history
Posted by: Splunge at October 06, 2024 07:04 PM (hmKaK)

Yeah, if I had something like that - maybe a Revolutionary War rifle from out on the frontier - it might get mounted somewhere everyone would look at it. But I would still take it down and shoot it once a year or so. Carefully, yes, but it would get shot.

Because this is how the grandkids' (when I have some) dates would get introduced. "Yep, that's from Fort Scalper in Ohio, from just before the Revolutionary War, Yes, it still works. Don't make me prove it, young'un." Then look meaningfully at him, and tap my pocketwatch.

Posted by: GWB at October 06, 2024 07:27 PM (DDSgs)

57 Well dang, that spinning target looks like a bunch of fun and darn difficult. WBG's shooting was very impressive.

Posted by: JTB at October 06, 2024 07:27 PM (yTvNw)

58 Thanks Weasel. My weak points are forgetting to slightly bend the knees, bend at the waist, and making sure my right elbow is properly extended. The secret sauce is getting into a zone, where it's just you, the gun and the target. That's when I get my best results.

Posted by: Grateful at October 06, 2024 07:27 PM (IQ6Gq)

59 Am I forgetting something????
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 06, 2024 07:06 PM (0XVad)

Guns?
You?

Posted by: GWB at October 06, 2024 07:28 PM (DDSgs)

60 American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists??

Oooh. Gold comment box. Ooooh!

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at October 06, 2024 07:28 PM (CEzQx)

61 Am I forgetting something????
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 06, 2024 07:06 PM (0XVad)

Cleaning tools/supplies?

Posted by: Ed L at October 06, 2024 07:28 PM (yRXSd)

62 #60 Oh.

Advanced Combat Optical Gunsight (ACOG)

Never mind.

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at October 06, 2024 07:29 PM (CEzQx)

63 Marvelous day at the range. Fall foliage at peak. I had the upper range all to myself.
Disappointed that the geiselle maritime bolt catch on the ar 10 did not catch the bolt. Need to look at that.
Tried 180 g hunting rounds. Accurate enough for hunting.
Hit the 850 after a few ranging rounds. Needed a full 5 MOA on top of the ballistic table. Very similar to shooting with the mini morons last spring.
Did not have enough MOA plus holdover to hit 1100. Needed a spotter.
More …

Posted by: RI Red at October 06, 2024 07:29 PM (SuQXo)

64 Posted by: TRex at October 06, 2024 07:27 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Nice! As Grateful mentioned it's important to be able to self-diagnose problems. Part of focusing on fundamentals is limiting the number of things that can go wrong through muscle memory. Good job!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 07:29 PM (uGpeQ)

65 It should be stored on top of the stack of your Franklin Mint "Star Trek" commemorative plates.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 06, 2024 07:13 PM (Yt4b4)

Because those plates are going to fund your post-apocalypse survival, baby!

Posted by: GWB at October 06, 2024 07:31 PM (DDSgs)

66 Well dang, that spinning target looks like a bunch of fun and darn difficult. WBG's shooting was very impressive.
Posted by: JTB at October 06, 2024 07:27 PM (yTvNw)
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WBG took out the first three so quickly it didn't really have a chance to start spinning fast!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 07:32 PM (uGpeQ)

67 Listening to the early hunting/fishing show a fellow that is a world class skeet shooter recommended standing in front of a mirror. He was talking about gun to cheek placement for skeet shooting but it would also work for dry fire pistol exercises. Muscle memory.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 06, 2024 07:35 PM (I1GXe)

68 Oct 7 last day to register to vote in Texas. I expect y’all to vote.

Posted by: Eromero at October 06, 2024 07:35 PM (DXbAa)

69 Please tell me Ben Had and the Cow Horse Queen will be working cattle at the MoMe. I could watch those girls all day.

Posted by: creeper at October 06, 2024 07:35 PM (M6moH)

70 My big achievement of the day was successfully reassembling my .45 caliber 1911 with full-length guide rod. Those springs are harsh! And the re-assembly process did not resemble the disassembly process.

Less successful was firing the darned thing yesterday. About 80% of my shots went high, and I don't yet understand why. I figure it's a bad habit, like so many other bad shooting habits I've had to overcome.

Posted by: Splunge at October 06, 2024 07:36 PM (hmKaK)

71 Posted by: GWB at October 06, 2024 07:27 PM (DDSgs)

GWB, an .58 M1861/3 Springfield muzzle loader would still serve just as well. Or a Winchester 1873 in .44-40. Or a Colt SAA in .45 Long Colt.

Posted by: Ed L at October 06, 2024 07:37 PM (yRXSd)

72 Hookers and blow.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 07:19 PM

I will leave that to you, with you and your fancy Weaselmobile. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 06, 2024 07:24 PM

I have noticed that after trading the BMW for an Accord, the range babes gave been kinda distant.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 06, 2024 07:37 PM (Wnv9h)

73 creeper, yes. The World Show is the weekend after the MoMe so show prep will be going on.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 06, 2024 07:37 PM (I1GXe)

74 Very similar to shooting with the mini morons last spring.
Posted by: RI Red at October 06, 2024 07:29 PM (SuQXo)

I think they now prefer to be called "little people."
Or were these children?

Posted by: GWB at October 06, 2024 07:37 PM (DDSgs)

75 Put a Wulf laser rangefinder on top of the scope on the 6.5. Pleasantly surprised. Very accurate!
But it required scope rezeroing. No biggy. Very satisfactory 300 yd and 530 hits on steel before the range got busier.

Posted by: RI Red at October 06, 2024 07:37 PM (SuQXo)

76 That utoob "sign in to prove you're not a robot" is a trick.
They want to get you into their system, that's what they want.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 06, 2024 07:38 PM (ZACBQ)

77 I expect y’all to vote.
Posted by: Eromero at October 06, 2024 07:35 PM (DXbAa)

I expect y’all to vote as if your guns depended on it.
Minor fix.

Posted by: GWB at October 06, 2024 07:39 PM (DDSgs)

78 I have safe queens but not intentionally, due to my arthritis worsening over the years and getting into my spine, I simply cannot shoot a lot of my rifles or shotguns anymore without immediate pain in back and arms. Ditto for hard recoiling pistol rounds as they make my hands swell up like catcher's mitts from inflammation and turn bright red from it.

Will be thinning the herd, I think this coming year but will take pix to post as I clean them and prep them for sale. Lot of WWI and WWII bolt actions, some interesting shotguns, etc. My wife can still shoot all of my handguns okay but I have moved to very heavy double action only pistol (S&W 5946) for home use and a heavy for its size PX4 Storm compact for carry. Decocker only (G model retrofit). I can still shoot heavy revolvers ok (or something like a 32 S&W Long in a lighter one) but cannot reload with precision anymore.

Hands feel like gloves are on them due to neuropathy and not flexible enough to reload with precision compared to semi auto magazines.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 07:39 PM (bt/Nj)

79 Holy shitballs! It's the gub!

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 06, 2024 07:40 PM (mH6SG)

80 I can't picture myself with a safe queen. The idea of spending serious bucks for a gun I won't shoot is a foreign concept. But I don't 'collect' firearms, I just accumulate them. It would be like buying a book I don't dare to read. (Shivers in horror at the thought.)

The only scenario that I can think of would be to be given or inherit a gun of historical interest or to preserve something for a future generation.

Posted by: JTB at October 06, 2024 07:40 PM (yTvNw)

81 GWB, an .58 M1861/3 Springfield muzzle loader would still serve just as well. Or a Winchester 1873 in .44-40. Or a Colt SAA in .45 Long Colt.
Posted by: Ed L at October 06, 2024 07:37 PM (yRXSd)

Gonna need more walls....

Posted by: GWB at October 06, 2024 07:40 PM (DDSgs)

82 76 That utoob "sign in to prove you're not a robot" is a trick.
They want to get you into their system, that's what they want.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 06, 2024 07:38 PM (ZACBQ)

I recently signed up for Twitter, because I could not otherwise read it, and I figured it was safe because Elon bought it. The "prove you're not a robot" steps were amazing. You had to align planets in one of the steps. It seemed clear that Elon was involved in sorting this out.

But now I have a firehose of too much information, which I should probably ignore.

Posted by: Splunge at October 06, 2024 07:41 PM (hmKaK)

83 Ben! Thank you. My lawn chair and I will be ringside watching you two head 'em up and move 'em out.

Posted by: creeper at October 06, 2024 07:41 PM (M6moH)

84 Posted by: Splunge at October 06, 2024 07:36 PM (hmKaK)

I recently picked up a Colt Combat Commander that someone had heavily customized for accuracy (checkered frontstrap, full length guide rod, Novak sights, etc.). I ended up putting in a factory length guide rod in place of the full length guide rod because reassembly was too much of a chore. And I don't have arthritis in my hands.

Posted by: Ed L at October 06, 2024 07:41 PM (yRXSd)

85 The problem with not having safe queens is that every new gun is a burden. You've just acquired an obligation to master it.

Posted by: Splunge at October 06, 2024 07:41 PM (hmKaK)

86 Here is a look at setting up your Trijicon ACOG.

Love the ACOG. Always have. Thanks for that, Weasel.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 06, 2024 07:42 PM (mH6SG)

87 Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 06, 2024 07:42 PM (mH6SG)
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You bet! I'm a fan too.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 07:42 PM (uGpeQ)

88 54 Had a very short and frustrating range trip today. Shooting the Kimber with reloads with a new-to-me bullet. Loaded 5, bang, bang, click. Wut? Unload, inspect the round. No sign of a light primer strike or any strike at all. Shrug, reload, click. Reinspect, still nothing. Figured I must have broken a firing pin. Came home, tore it down, and everything looks fine. Kicking myself that I didn't think to just put that round aside and try some others but a broken pin just seemed like the obvious answer so I didn't even try. I'll "plunk test" the rest of the rounds before the next trip.
Posted by: Oddbob

Lyman and several other mfgs make multiple chamber checkers for competition shooters. Quicker than a plunk test for rapid ammo checking. Checks about eight bullets at a time for 9mm, 45 ACP, and 223.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 07:42 PM (bt/Nj)

89 I think they now prefer to be called "little people."
Or were these children?
Posted by: GWB at October 06, 2024 07:37 PM (DDSgs)

Best ask weasel, Scoobs, CBD and RMBS how they identify.

Posted by: RI Red at October 06, 2024 07:43 PM (SuQXo)

90 have you been to the range?

Range report: The new Rise Rave 140 trigger works nicely in the A2. Crisp, light, short reset. 10/10.

I managed to reset my scope's zero stop to compensate for having zeroed at 16 degrees. *waves to RI Red* I now have a good 100 yd zero to start with at Corsicana.

The RMBS Mom is shooting well, but needs to focus on some fundamentals. We're working on her trigger finger placement and trigger squeeze.

That is all.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 06, 2024 07:44 PM (Wnv9h)

91 Ben Had, replied to your email via Protonmail.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 07:44 PM (bt/Nj)

92 61 Cleaning tools/supplies?

Posted by: Ed L at October 06, 2024 07:28 PM

Yep, those are coming too.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 06, 2024 07:44 PM (0XVad)

93 WBG may be lurking tonight. Say hello to WBG everyone.

Oh, and Happy DOB to nurse r!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 07:45 PM (uGpeQ)

94 Good afternoon/evening, depending on your time zone.

Thanks again, Weasel, for the gun thread.

I don't think the firearm in question is a safe queen. I do, however, believe it deserves a place on the wall next the Weasel Katana.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 06, 2024 07:45 PM (tT6L1)

95 That's darn good shooting on that Texas Star by WBG. Better than I'm capable of.

Posted by: Ed L at October 06, 2024 07:45 PM (yRXSd)

96 I've got an early Colt 1911 safe queen that I was advised not to fire by Ed L. himself at a TxMoMe. I don't really need to anyway, but will pass on the valuable info Ed gave to me when he checked my pistol out to my oldest son when he ends up with it. Thanks again , Ed!

I'm going to miss seeing yall this year. Other things are going on. I know you will all have a great time and wish you safe travels.

Posted by: fd at October 06, 2024 07:46 PM (vFG9F)

97 Very similar to shooting with the mini morons last spring.
Posted by: RI Red at October 06, 2024 07:29 PM (SuQXo)

I think they now prefer to be called "little people."
Or were these children?
Posted by: GWB at October 06, 2024 07:37 PM

Hey...I resemble that remark.

Of course, I still tower over Thousand Millimeter Reich.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 06, 2024 07:46 PM (Wnv9h)

98 whig, received.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 06, 2024 07:47 PM (I1GXe)

99 Of course, I still tower over Thousand Millimeter Reich.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 06, 2024 07:46 PM (Wnv9h)

Ooof.

Posted by: Ed L at October 06, 2024 07:48 PM (yRXSd)

100 Of course, I still tower over Thousand Millimeter Reich.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 06, 2024 07:46 PM (Wnv9h)

Ooof.
Posted by: Ed L at October 06, 2024 07:48 PM

Stolen from another Moron, but too good not to use.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 06, 2024 07:48 PM (Wnv9h)

101 70 My big achievement of the day was successfully reassembling my .45 caliber 1911 with full-length guide rod. Those springs are harsh! And the re-assembly process did not resemble the disassembly process.

Less successful was firing the darned thing yesterday. About 80% of my shots went high, and I don't yet understand why. I figure it's a bad habit, like so many other bad shooting habits I've had to overcome.
Posted by: Splunge
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Not necessarily. Depends on your sights and what you were firing. Fixed sights only regulate specific ammo--bullet and powder loads. Depending on whether your combo and barrel length causes shots to go high may be an ammo issue--not you. For example, older 38 Special revolvers are almost always regulated for 158 Gr. SWC that were popular manstoppers in the day. Fire something where the bullet is lighter and faster or slower like a 148 WC and the POI (Point of Impact) will not be the same as the POA (Point of Aim).

Can have the same problem with 9mm if the sights are set for 115 gr and fast and you are shooting 147 gr and slow.

Grouping usually tells the story which it is.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 07:49 PM (bt/Nj)

102 Just watched a short video of probably a dozen people in a house with some animals pets at least 4 feet of water in it.
What were they still in it I wonder.

Posted by: Skip at October 06, 2024 07:49 PM (fwDg9)

103 I do keep a good 1911 video on breakdown and assembly saved.

Posted by: Skip at October 06, 2024 07:51 PM (fwDg9)

104 93 WBG may be lurking tonight. Say hello to WBG everyone.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 07:45 PM
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Hello WBG! Nice shooting!

Posted by: TRex at October 06, 2024 07:51 PM (IQ6Gq)

105 You bet! I'm a fan too.
Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 07:42 PM

IMHO, if the shooter can afford one, they won't be disappointed.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 06, 2024 07:51 PM (mH6SG)

106 102 Just watched a short video of probably a dozen people in a house with some animals pets at least 4 feet of water in it.
What were they still in it I wonder.
Posted by: Skip
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No money to go elsewhere is a strong possibility along with trying to guard their possessions.

Common stories like this in the Great Mississippi Flood of 1927. About 1/3 of the state of Arkansas was flooded at its peak along with large swathes of Mississippi and Louisiana.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 07:52 PM (bt/Nj)

107 Hiya WBG.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 07:52 PM (bt/Nj)

108 Well done, WBG.

Posted by: scampydog at October 06, 2024 07:52 PM (41CYW)

109 Hello WBG!!! Nice shooting!! Keep at it!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 06, 2024 07:53 PM (0XVad)

110 There's a whole range of uses between "museum piece" and "combat carry." EDC is hard on finishes and parts that stick out. I never carry a vintage piece around day after day, even in a shoulder holster.

But shooting is not supposed to hurt a gun. If you have a special one, keep it clean and protected, and take it to the range on special occasions, so you can enjoy it. Use ammunition you know is safe for the firearm. Then clean it and put it back in a safe place.

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at October 06, 2024 07:54 PM (zdLoL)

111 Hey there WBG, looking forward to chatting in 12 days (according to BH!).
Happy DOB Nurse!

Posted by: Grateful at October 06, 2024 07:54 PM (IQ6Gq)

112 I recently picked up a Colt Combat Commander that someone had heavily customized for accuracy (checkered frontstrap, full length guide rod, Novak sights, etc.). I ended up putting in a factory length guide rod in place of the full length guide rod because reassembly was too much of a chore. And I don't have arthritis in my hands.
Posted by: Ed L
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I am not a fan of accurized 1911's.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 07:55 PM (bt/Nj)

113 Can have the same problem with 9mm if the sights are set for 115 gr and fast and you are shooting 147 gr and slow.
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PCC here [including the one I own] have 18.6" barrels.

Fired out of long arms, does the bullet weight affect muzzle movement and recoil noticeably??

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at October 06, 2024 07:56 PM (CEzQx)

114 So, range report. Friday, hit the range, found out my weather meter battery had gone dead. (this was a pre-match practice) I also realized my Kestrel had the wrong bullet profile loaded. Practice went badly, too, as I couldn't hit anything on the KYL 500 yard rack.

So, home to clean the rifle, Hit the rifle with Wipe Out, per Weasel recommendation, let sit overnight, ran few patches down the barrel and headed to the match. Also loaded the correct profile on the Kestrel.

Part of the pre match ritual now includes making sure nothing has worked loose.

I knew I wouldn't be able to foul the barrel before the match started but figured it was good trade-off to not being able to hit anything. I'll be darned if I didn't hit the 10" target @ 1,000 yards within 3 shots and skim the edge with multiple rounds.

Then, on to the KYL rack. I cleaned up on that one, going 6 for 12, the 2" target kicking my butt. However, after everything was said and done, I still shot more than well enough to win the match.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 06, 2024 07:56 PM (tT6L1)

115 Some guns may be shot out and not safe to fire. There are plenty of other good guns to shoot, why not shoot those?

Posted by: fd at October 06, 2024 07:56 PM (vFG9F)

116 Of course, I still tower over Thousand Millimeter Reich.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 06, 2024 07:46 PM (Wnv9h)
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Heh.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 06, 2024 07:57 PM (tT6L1)

117 PCC here [including the one I own] have 18.6" barrels.
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I should have added "using 9mm ammo."

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at October 06, 2024 07:57 PM (CEzQx)

118 WBG, that's some very nice shooting. Excellent.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 06, 2024 07:58 PM (tT6L1)

119 114
Congrats Blake, on the shooting and the win!

Posted by: Grateful at October 06, 2024 07:59 PM (IQ6Gq)

120 Fired out of long arms, does the bullet weight affect muzzle movement and recoil noticeably??
Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at October 06, 2024 07:56 PM (CEzQx)
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Somewhat. The barrel harmonics will be different and with a bullet with more mass the "equal and opposite reaction" will be a little greater, but probably not enough to notice unless you are shooting a really light gun.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 07:59 PM (uGpeQ)

121 I am not a fan of accurized 1911's.
Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 07:55 PM (bt/Nj)

After that Combat Commander, I'm not either. If I want to have a PITA experience with reassembly, I'll take a C96 or Luger for the real deal. 1911's should be (relatively) quick and easy to both assemble and disassemble.

Posted by: Ed L at October 06, 2024 07:59 PM (yRXSd)

122 I have a Springfield Hellcat that smacks the palm hard. Not a safe-queen in the normal sense. I bought a silicone grip cover but haven't tried it yet.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 06, 2024 07:59 PM (lhenN)

123 114 However, after everything was said and done, I still shot more than well enough to win the match.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 06, 2024 07:56 PM
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Hooray!

Posted by: TRex at October 06, 2024 07:59 PM (IQ6Gq)

124 Well done, Blake.

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at October 06, 2024 07:59 PM (CEzQx)

125 Savage Stevens 320 Security Pump-Action Shotgun with Bead Sight, $180 at Bass Pro,
Mossberg Maverick 88 Security 12, $250 at Academy,

Opinions?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 06, 2024 07:59 PM (/lPRQ)

126 Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 06, 2024 07:56 PM (tT6L1)
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Nice! Congratulations!!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 08:00 PM (uGpeQ)

127 Food Thread had 318 comments, for those of you scoring along at home.

You don't want Weasel to face nasty 7am Zoom calls from Ace this close to TXMoMe, do you? Do you? I know I do not want to face Weasel after letting that happen.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at October 06, 2024 08:01 PM (v23vE)

128 Thank you, grateful.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 06, 2024 08:01 PM (tT6L1)

129 Congratulations on your victory, Blake!

Posted by: Ed L at October 06, 2024 08:01 PM (yRXSd)

130 Did what i didnt think possibl and parted ways with one. Co-worker's dad passed and his M1 ended up in the hands of d*ckhead BIL. BIL wouldn't give it up to the sons. I had M1 in same config. Co-worker now has it.

Posted by: scampydog at October 06, 2024 08:01 PM (41CYW)

131 Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at October 06, 2024 08:01 PM (v23vE)
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318 will be a tough bill to climb!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 08:01 PM (uGpeQ)

132 PCC here [including the one I own] have 18.6" barrels.

Fired out of long arms, does the bullet weight affect muzzle movement and recoil noticeably??
Posted by: andycanuck

Marginally on recoil--there is physics out there but part of the recoil impulse comes from unburnt powder and gas jetting out the muzzle and part of it comes from the bullet. Given the bolt weight on most blow back PCCs, you won't notice it much on recoil as 115 fast and light lesser recoil results though increased recoil from powder/gas. The reverse using 147's.

Only way to know for sure about POI and POA is to fire a hundred rounds or so of one brand of ammo. Switch a brand, try again. That is why whatever self defense ammo you choose, YOU MUST FIRE enough rounds through your firearm to confirm POA and POI are the same (or adjust your sights/ammo fired to that) plus reliability.

Kludging via Kentucky windage and tricks like 6 oclock are things you will forget in a crisis. Make the ammo match what your sights say or vice versa if using for self defense.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 08:02 PM (bt/Nj)

133 1927 Mississippi floods, well noted Whig. It was a two-year event, and one of the watersheds (see?) of US history, with a lot of far-ranging consequences. Especially if you like the blues.

The country kind of, sort of, learned some lessons from it, and then again came up with a whole new class of mistakes.

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at October 06, 2024 08:02 PM (zdLoL)

134 Bill = hill

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 08:03 PM (uGpeQ)

135 Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 06, 2024 07:56 PM

Fine shootin', blake.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 06, 2024 08:03 PM (Wnv9h)

136 134 Bill = hill
Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 08:03 PM (uGpeQ)

Boss, I thought we weren't doing politics on this thread -- and there you go bringing up the Clintons!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at October 06, 2024 08:05 PM (v23vE)

137 Weasel, I need to zero an ACOG, but only have access to a range w/ a max distance of 20 yards. I have GI 25 meter zero targets for M16s/M4s. Should I use those and have the bullets strike a bit high on the target at 20 yards as a Kentucky windage solution to this lack of available distance?

Posted by: Ed L at October 06, 2024 08:06 PM (yRXSd)

138 Another observation regarding the mounting of an optic such as an ACOG. A quick release mount is a bonus, especially if you are confident with iron sighting. Also, when its installed properly, it will hold zero every time. Just my 2 cents.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 06, 2024 08:09 PM (mH6SG)

139 Thanks for the congratulations. I'd also mention I hit every single target on the rack but, after I tagged the 2' target, I couldn't hit it again. I pretty much ran the rack straight through.

It's quite amusing, though, because a 174 grain bullet moving @2200 fps really makes a 2" target dance.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 06, 2024 08:09 PM (tT6L1)

140 Tactical watches.

Like James Bond's watch? With the razor wire and laser beam cutting tool?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 06, 2024 08:09 PM (rJ7Hd)

141 BTW, what I said goes even more for reloads. Generally speaking wide variations in speed from a chrony of your load result will result in inaccurate loading. If your velocity is far greater than what the reloading manuals say and your point of impact is high , then you need to stop firing asap and make sure that you don't have overpressure loads.

One thing I will also say, on blowback semi auto firearms (and to a lesser extent good ole Browning tilt barrel) are dependent on a certain band of acceptable pressure and acceptable bullet weight to function with reliability and that affects slide velocity--thus extraction and ejection can be a problem.

That is why you can get a something like a P225 having problems with +P+ 9mm 115gr fired at 1300-1350 fps can create extraction and ejection problems. It was designed around firing a NATO 124 gr about 1150-1190 fps.

You can play around with recoil spring weights but that is about all you can do in firing different ammo function wise--the sighting problem is another issue.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 08:10 PM (bt/Nj)

142 Posted by: Ed L at October 06, 2024 08:06 PM (yRXSd)
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That should work, I think. I zero everything at 100 yards, but I know there are a variety of stepped targets as you describe for checking zero inside the preferred range.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 08:10 PM (uGpeQ)

143 You don't want Weasel to face nasty 7am Zoom calls from Ace this close to TXMoMe, do you? Do you? I know I do not want to face Weasel after letting that happen.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy
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Trying to do my part though my shoulder feels like it is going to come off. Using voice to text to avoid using it.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 08:11 PM (bt/Nj)

144 #132 Thanks, whig, for the confirmation.

I've bought test boxes of three types of self-defence ammo; and test boxes of three types of 'regular' FMJ ammo that my local dealer also sells in 1,000-packs to see which I and the PCC prefer.

I haven't bought it yet but I also will be buying a 5.56 semiautomatic rifle soon that I'll also be test firing with three or four types of rounds as well.

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at October 06, 2024 08:11 PM (CEzQx)

145 Happy birthday to me
Happy birthday to me

If you have an unloved 1911,
You can gift it to ME!!!!!

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 06, 2024 08:11 PM (rs0j7)

146 More mouth breathers have seen their end through and ACOG than just about anything else out there except maybe an EOT. It’s a rugged good all around scope that lets you go from contact range to distance pretty easily. It’s also tougher than woodpecker lips. YMMV.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 06, 2024 08:11 PM (bNcG+)

147 145 Happy birthday to me
Happy birthday to me

If you have an unloved 1911,
You can gift it to ME!!!!!

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 06, 2024 08:11 PM (rs0j7

You've got a addiction to 1911 frames.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 06, 2024 08:13 PM (rJ7Hd)

148 Happy Birthday, Nurse!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 06, 2024 08:14 PM (tT6L1)

149 Opinions?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 06, 2024 07:59 PM (/lPRQ)

Lots of them. But none particular to what you seem to pose as a dilemma. Unless you count "Yes, if you can afford it."

Posted by: GWB at October 06, 2024 08:14 PM (DDSgs)

150 However, after everything was said and done, I still shot more than well enough to win the match.

Posted by: blake
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Congrats!

Posted by: screaming in digital at October 06, 2024 08:14 PM (EaPW0)

151 Weasel-san, I don't believe any of the watches featured in the first video are

The watch in the second video is clearly under 43mm.

Is your preference for

Asking for the Gun Thread.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 06, 2024 08:16 PM (a3Q+t)

152 Nurse probably has, "Happiness is a Warm Gun" as her birthday song.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 06, 2024 08:16 PM (tT6L1)

153 I have safe queens but not intentionally, due to my arthritis worsening over the years and getting into my spine, I simply cannot shoot a lot of my rifles or shotguns anymore without immediate pain in back and arms...

What this world needs is handy recoilless rifle for civilian use.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 06, 2024 08:16 PM (/lPRQ)

154 If you have an LBS that’s the best way to zero an ACOG without expending ammo. You only need 10 meters of distance and the right target.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 06, 2024 08:17 PM (bNcG+)

155 That should work, I think. I zero everything at 100 yards, but I know there are a variety of stepped targets as you describe for checking zero inside the preferred range.
Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 08:10 PM (uGpeQ)

Thanks, Weasel.

Posted by: Ed L at October 06, 2024 08:17 PM (yRXSd)

156 Is your preference for < 43mm a function of consideration of potential storage locations?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 06, 2024 08:17 PM (a3Q+t)

157 144 #132 Thanks, whig, for the confirmation.

I've bought test boxes of three types of self-defence ammo; and test boxes of three types of 'regular' FMJ ammo that my local dealer also sells in 1,000-packs to see which I and the PCC prefer.

I haven't bought it yet but I also will be buying a 5.56 semiautomatic rifle soon that I'll also be test firing with three or four types of rounds as well.
Posted by: andycanuck
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No problem, dunno about Canada, but in the States, SGAmmo and Aim Surplus often get police departments trading in ammo (various departments have policies about how long to keep it) in 50 round boxes rather than the meager 20 round boxes. Price per round is much better and it is primo for determining POA=POI for your self defense ammo. Fortunately the best sd ammo of these are the most often sold that way because police like to buy well performing rounds according to the FBI.

Reloading is also a way to emulate but using far cheaper plated or generic type hollow points of the same weight and you figure out powder load for the velocity you need to duplicate via reloads from manuals. 9mm regular pressure is pretty easy to duplicate.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 08:18 PM (bt/Nj)

158 Congratulations on the win blake!!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 06, 2024 08:18 PM (0XVad)

159 Congratulations, blake!

That's awesome. Good for you!

Looking forward to seeing y'all in a couple weeks!

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 06, 2024 08:18 PM (eMzti)

160 Happy Birthday Nurse!!!

Looking forward to seeing you in 12 days or so.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 06, 2024 08:19 PM (0XVad)

161 You've got a addiction to 1911 frames.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 06, 2024 08:13 PM (rJ7Hd)

/stands up, looks around the circle of chairs/
Hi, my name is GWB. ... And, yes, I love 1911s.
/sits back down/

Posted by: GWB at October 06, 2024 08:19 PM (DDSgs)

162 @Ed L, a 20 yard zero will probably have you hitting the bad guy out to 250 yards, giving or take, depending on the round, aiming center mass. The thing which may be off is windage. The only real way to check windage is to move the target out to 100 to 200 yards.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 06, 2024 08:20 PM (tT6L1)

163 If you have an unloved 1911,
You can gift it to ME!!!!!
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 06, 2024 08:11 PM

I don't have any loved or unloved 1911s in 9mm, which if I understand CBD correctly, is your preferred caliber.

Therefore, I don't supposed you'd fancy a 1911 in .45 ACP.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 06, 2024 08:20 PM (a3Q+t)

164 Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 06, 2024 08:16 PM (a3Q+t)
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The sweet spot is 40- 43mm!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 08:21 PM (uGpeQ)

165 Happy B-Day, Nurse!

Posted by: Ed L at October 06, 2024 08:21 PM (yRXSd)

166 The sweet spot is 40- 43mm!
Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 08:21 PM (uGpeQ)

I prefer 88mm.
Wait, you're talking watches again.

Posted by: GWB at October 06, 2024 08:22 PM (DDSgs)

167 I have been doing it wrong!!!

I think I remember seeing that spinoff.
Tour of Duty: Bundles of Lettermail

I'm thinking that technique could be applied to Christmas present ribbon, meat wrapped in butcher paper, fish heads in the New York Times...the usage is endless.

Oh, and I like the pinky knife.

Happy DOB nurse r! Hello WBG! Hi Weasel!

Posted by: haffhowershower at October 06, 2024 08:23 PM (NMT5x)

168 Nice shooting, Blake!
And Happy Birthday to nurse!

Posted by: GWB at October 06, 2024 08:23 PM (DDSgs)

169 Sadly, I must be going. Day 6 of my supervisors mandatory 2 week vacation. The lucky bastard is in Germany for Octoberfest.
And of course when he takes off weird problems pop up digging into MY work time.

Have a good night all and thanks to our host Weasel for providing this place of refuge for us.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 06, 2024 08:23 PM (0XVad)

170 Then, on to the KYL rack. I cleaned up on that one, going 6 for 12, the 2" target kicking my butt. However, after everything was said and done, I still shot more than well enough to win the match.
Posted by: blake
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Congrats on the win. Not something I could do.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 08:23 PM (bt/Nj)

171 Posted by: GWB at October 06, 2024 08:19 PM (DDSgs)

You'd be afraid if you knew how many 1911s I have.

Posted by: Ed L at October 06, 2024 08:24 PM (yRXSd)

172 Just waiting for someone to pop in to say that the 1911 is "underrated". Heh.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 06, 2024 08:24 PM (mH6SG)

173 Posted by: Scuba_Dude at October 06, 2024 08:23 PM (0XVad)
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Adios Scoob.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 08:24 PM (uGpeQ)

174
Have a good night all and thanks to our host Weasel for providing this place of refuge for us.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude
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Best o luck in resolving issues.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 08:24 PM (bt/Nj)

175 uh..."overrated"...ugh

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 06, 2024 08:25 PM (mH6SG)

176 By chance several of the test boxes I'll be buying this Saturday are 50-round ones although I don't know if police surplus.

I doubt I'll ever get into reloading although my nephew wants to in the future.

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at October 06, 2024 08:25 PM (CEzQx)

177 Shameless public service cross-post plug - the hobby thread theme yesterday was disaster prep. Timely. Lots of knowledge and wisdom was posted and shared, so have a look if you're inclined. Yes, firearms are part of planning. Now back to regular programming...

Posted by: TRex at October 06, 2024 08:25 PM (IQ6Gq)

178 Just waiting for someone to pop in to say that the 1911 is "underrated". Heh.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 06, 2024 08:24 PM

Fact check: True.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 06, 2024 08:27 PM (a3Q+t)

179 @whig, a year ago, I couldn't have done it either. However, Weaselsan Gunsei is a rifle zen master. His teaching has been instrumental in my getting better with a rifle.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 06, 2024 08:27 PM (tT6L1)

180 Think before you type and hit post, BFD.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 06, 2024 08:27 PM (mH6SG)

181 Lots of them. But none particular to what you seem to pose as a dilemma. Unless you count "Yes, if you can afford it."
Posted by: GWB

Cheap junk, merely servicable, decent value, etc?
The brand names that is.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 06, 2024 08:27 PM (/lPRQ)

182 You'd be afraid if you knew how many 1911s I have.
Posted by: Ed L at October 06, 2024 08:24 PM (yRXSd)
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I think you misspelled "envious."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 06, 2024 08:28 PM (tT6L1)

183 Think before you type and hit post, BFD.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 06, 2024 08:27 PM

That's allowed? And if allowed, kosher?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 06, 2024 08:28 PM (a3Q+t)

184 Think before you type and hit post, BFD.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 06, 2024 08:27 PM (mH6SG)
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You must be new here.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 06, 2024 08:29 PM (tT6L1)

185 176 By chance several of the test boxes I'll be buying this Saturday are 50-round ones although I don't know if police surplus.

I doubt I'll ever get into reloading although my nephew wants to in the future.
Posted by: andycanuck
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Possibly surplus or simply not bought by the police. At least in the US, retailers sell the 20-25 round mini boxes to people and the 50 round ones to cops.

A year or so ago, a lot of expensive 40 S&W cop self defense ammo was sold dirt cheap as police departments have turned to 9mm as their cartridge of choice.

The surplus 40 S&W cop guns have been showing up cheap for the last 6-10 years now. Many are in excellent mechanical shape.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 08:29 PM (bt/Nj)

186 Think before you type and hit post, BFD.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 06, 2024 08:27 PM

That's allowed? And if allowed, kosher?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 06, 2024 08:28 PM (a3Q+t)
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Whoa! Let's not all start thinking!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 08:31 PM (uGpeQ)

187 You must be new here.

I'm performing like a rookie this evening. Sigh.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 06, 2024 08:31 PM (mH6SG)

188 Done with car work for the day. Time to read the Gun Thread. Thank you, Weasel!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 06, 2024 08:32 PM (brD1F)

189 Love the WBG video! He does make it look easy...and fun!

Posted by: Iris at October 06, 2024 08:32 PM (bOJ2I)

190 Whoa! Let's not all start thinking!

Sage advice. It hurts.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 06, 2024 08:32 PM (mH6SG)

191 The surplus 40 S&W cop guns have been showing up cheap for the last 6-10 years now. Many are in excellent mechanical shape.
Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 08:29 PM (bt/Nj)

I've observed this at the Chantilly gun show for some time now. Police surplus guns are a good way to get a decent used firearm for a very good price. As long as you can live w/ .40 S&W.

Posted by: Ed L at October 06, 2024 08:33 PM (yRXSd)

192 Shameless public service cross-post plug - the hobby thread theme yesterday was disaster prep. Timely. Lots of knowledge and wisdom was posted and shared, so have a look if you're inclined. Yes, firearms are part of planning. Now back to regular programming...
Posted by: TRex

Got ethanol free gas, gallon of milk, tator tots... Is cheap Stevens pump or Mossberg Maverick worth it to round off the kit?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 06, 2024 08:34 PM (/lPRQ)

193 Love the gub thread. Even when I f*ck up! Thanks, Weasel.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 06, 2024 08:34 PM (mH6SG)

194 Posted by: Iris at October 06, 2024 08:32 PM (bOJ2I)
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I should've asked him to leave!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 08:35 PM (uGpeQ)

195 If you may find yourself in CQC.situation, (and whom amongst the Horde will not? Excepting nurse with her bear spray dispenser in her purse/bag/fist while she stalks hobos on the streets of Seattle) are no bueno!
A watch strapped to one's wrist with a strong durable band is an anchor point for a felon grabbing your wrist.
*Aikidoka extends hand toward unsuspecting hobo*
"Here! Grab my wrist! "
That is the lesson in CQC in the dojo today.
REAL operators wear a Casio G-shock in an enlarged buttonhole on the top button of their shirt/jacket/ blouse, etc.
If you must wear a watch on the wrist turn it so that the face is on the inside of the wrist. It requures less movement to do a time check and it is easirer to do it surreptitiously.
Disregard all of the above if the watch is just an expensive fashion statenrnt or bling.

Posted by: waepnedmann at October 06, 2024 08:35 PM (pBr7I)

196 Prepping? Have markers set up at various distances appropriate to your sighting in of your weapons.

Posted by: GWB at October 06, 2024 08:36 PM (DDSgs)

197 China exerts new restrictions on exports of minerals critical to US weapons making

https://tinyurl.com/32yj7p87

'weapons' = ammo.

Always remember, you never have enough ammo.
Stock up while the supply is available.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 06, 2024 07:07 PM (/U5Yz)

Antimony is found all over the world. USA could be self sufficent in it if necessary. It would mean permitting a slew on small mines, and streamlining "environmental impact assessments".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 06, 2024 08:37 PM (brD1F)

198 179 @whig, a year ago, I couldn't have done it either. However, Weaselsan Gunsei is a rifle zen master. His teaching has been instrumental in my getting better with a rifle.
Posted by: blake
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That is part of it but the other is I don't really like shooting as a social activity. Was the same way at golf before I screwed up my shoulder decades ago.

Also dislike shooting from a bench anymore than necessary to check zero which is rare for most of my old military rifles using iron sights to vary much.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 08:37 PM (bt/Nj)

199 Whoa! Let's not all start thinking!
Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 08:31 PM

Since that seems to fall to me generally around this blog, I don't think you need to worry.

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at October 06, 2024 08:37 PM (Xnrdt)

200 Cheap junk, merely servicable, decent value, etc?
The brand names that is.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 06, 2024 08:27 PM (/lPRQ)

Mossberg I would trust entirely.
Savage I trust. But I have no experience.

Posted by: GWB at October 06, 2024 08:37 PM (DDSgs)

201 Prepping? Have markers set up at various distances appropriate to your sighting in of your weapons.
Posted by: GWB at October 06, 2024 08:36 PM (DDSgs)

With my new rangefinder, I finally ranged the other side of the pond today. 354 yards, if the bastards try a marine assault.
Almost a gimme.

Posted by: RI Red at October 06, 2024 08:40 PM (SuQXo)

202 Whoa! Let's not all start thinking!
Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 08:31 PM

Since that seems to fall to me generally around this blog, I don't think you need to worry.
Posted by: Wesley Crusher at October 06, 2024 08:37 PM (Xnrdt)

Shut up, Wesley.

Posted by: GWB at October 06, 2024 08:41 PM (DDSgs)

203 The Mossberg Maverick 88 has an MSRP well under $300.

Posted by: Ed L at October 06, 2024 08:42 PM (yRXSd)

204 ...Just waiting for someone to pop in to say that the 1911 is "underrated". Heh. Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 06, 2024 08:24 PM (mH6SG)

In the previous century, the vast majority of the world's militaries carried sidearms, primarily by NCOs and Officers, as badges of rank, vs. actual fighting arms. Thus, the prevalence of .32s and similar chamberings, in smaller, lighter pistols.

They'd certainly kill a man, but not necessarily as quickly as one might like.

And so, two entire world generations arose and were trained to not be in awe of the military sidearm, *any* military sidearm.

Those were the most who "underrated" the 1911 in .45 ACP. A mistake not made twice, whether they lived to reconsider, or not.

As to the MoMeet. Circumstances require that I travel this year, much more lightly loaded than previous. If there is a particular weapon of mine that you'd wish me to bring, or item of equipment, please let me know. I'll try to include it for you.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at October 06, 2024 08:43 PM (kQgoX)

205 I've observed this at the Chantilly gun show for some time now. Police surplus guns are a good way to get a decent used firearm for a very good price. As long as you can live w/ .40 S&W.
Posted by: Ed L

A bit sharper impulse than a 9mm but not bad in the smaller and lighter bullets used at the end by the Border Patrol and a few others. Shoot them in 155-165 gr or 135 gr screamers rather than the old 180 gr subsonics. Those hit like a 357 Magnum in 125 gr HP did. The 180 gr duplicated the old 38-40 revolver cartridge ballistics intentionally. Decent round but more recoil with no increased terminal effect compared with the lighter and faster self defense bullets.

Generally does not have the gilt edge accuracy that some older cartridges do like a 38, 357, or a 45 ACP.

If you have a 45, terminal ballistics are about the same between a good 40 S&W and a good std. pressure 45 ACP. load. Expansion and penetration close to same. Except the 40 will do it in a smaller and lighter frame that is more easily concealed.

Improvement though in 9mm self defense bullets, cost of ammo, and easier training of recruits is what did the 40 in. Not lack of terminal effectiveness.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 08:44 PM (bt/Nj)

206 I know, it's time to go outside and yell at the clouds.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at October 06, 2024 08:46 PM (QSrLX)

207 BTW, I've had my Mossberg (it's a regular stock, but came with 2 barrels - one for hunting and one for self-defense) was bought for ~$125 24 years ago. All my guns were still in the military household goods depot somewhere, and a couple of serial murderers had escaped from a Colorado prison. Even though it was a long way to Seattle, I know how that goes - suddenly they're somewhere you didn't expect. The day after this news broke, the sporting goods store next to our mailbox place had it on sale. I bought it without thinking more than twice.

It shoots well, and even handles shorty rounds (with the right little rubber thing in place)* well. It's the only shotgun I've felt like I needed (until they came out with the not-a-shotguns).

(* Phrasing!)

Posted by: GWB at October 06, 2024 08:46 PM (DDSgs)

208 201/
And there is my laugh for the night, courtesy RI Red...

Posted by: Grateful at October 06, 2024 08:47 PM (IQ6Gq)

209 @ whig, understandable.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 06, 2024 08:47 PM (tT6L1)

210 With my new rangefinder, I finally ranged the other side of the pond today. 354 yards, if the bastards try a marine assault.
Almost a gimme.
Posted by: RI Red at October 06, 2024 08:40 PM (SuQXo)
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Heh, yeah, isn't that the truth.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 06, 2024 08:49 PM (tT6L1)

211 Cheap junk, merely servicable, decent value, etc?
The brand names that is.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 06, 2024 08:27 PM (/lPRQ)

Mossberg I would trust entirely.
Savage I trust. But I have no experience.
Posted by: GWB a

I never paid much attention to shotguns. Those 12 ga pumps are less expensive than a cart of groceries.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 06, 2024 08:52 PM (/lPRQ)

212 207 BTW, I've had my Mossberg (it's a regular stock, but came with 2 barrels - one for hunting and one for self-defense) was bought for ~$125 24 years ago. All my guns were still in the military household goods depot somewhere, and a couple of serial murderers had escaped from a Colorado prison. Even though it was a long way to Seattle, I know how that goes - suddenly they're somewhere you didn't expect. The day after this news broke, the sporting goods store next to our mailbox place had it on sale. I bought it without thinking more than twice.
Posted by: GWB

Mossbergs are fine for social purposes like some other unsung makes. I would avoid the cheapie cheapie import specials as a number of them have demonstrated a lack of quality and lack of parts. If you buy one, you might get an acceptable one but you might not. Warranty and service might be non existent from actual reviews from people on firearm forums that I have seen. But cheap guns help some folks that cannot afford better in bad situations whether a Lorcin in 25 ACP or a cheap shotgun.

That being said, a reliable used name brand can often be about the same price or just a bit more than the new import.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 08:52 PM (bt/Nj)

213 the other side of the pond today. 354 yards, if the bastards try a marine assault.
Posted by: RI Red at October 06, 2024 08:40 PM (SuQXo)
Range to the MIDDLE of the pond. Feed your fishes.

Posted by: GWB at October 06, 2024 08:52 PM (DDSgs)

214 209 @ whig, understandable.
Posted by: blake
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I played enough sports in my youth that I don't care to compete on much of anything anymore. Tried it when I started shooting (IPSC related), did not care for the atmosphere nor the running around with a gun on ridiculous circumstances.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 08:54 PM (bt/Nj)

215 as a number of them have demonstrated a lack of quality
Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 08:52 PM (bt/Nj)

I wasn't going to mention my Charles Daly not-a-shotgun.

Posted by: GWB at October 06, 2024 08:54 PM (DDSgs)

216 The Mossberg Maverick 88 has an MSRP well under $300.
Posted by: Ed L at October 06, 2024 08:42 PM (yRXSd)

Got me one of them, I love it. Wanna get another for the south wing of my estate.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Telling War Stories at October 06, 2024 08:54 PM (Ad8y9)

217 Signing out for the night. Time to try to get the pills down my poor pup's throat. I hate doing it almost as much as she hates having it done, but it's necessary. She hasn't kept down anything she's eaten in days. Another trip to the vet is in the cards tomorrow.
Good night, all, and hope I can contribute to the thread better next week.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at October 06, 2024 08:55 PM (3rnQf)

218 Unfortunately, I'm out for a bit. If I don't make it back before ONT, I will read all the comments. ('Cause y'all rock.)

Thanks, Weasel, for another Sunday Night Special.

Posted by: GWB at October 06, 2024 08:56 PM (DDSgs)

219 Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at October 06, 2024 08:55 PM (3rnQf)
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Best of luck with your pup.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 08:56 PM (uGpeQ)

220 Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at October 06, 2024 08:55 PM (3rnQf)

Good luck with the pup!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at October 06, 2024 08:57 PM (hOUT3)

221 Good luck with the pup!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at October 06, 2024 08:57 PM (hOUT3)

Likewise from me!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 06, 2024 08:58 PM (lz/nK)

222 Anyone know the cost/night for the motel rooms in "Moron block" for the TXMoMe?

(My wife wants to rent a friend's trailer and stay at the ranch - unless the rooms are really inexpensive.)

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 06, 2024 08:59 PM (HlyYF)

223 Well, time to wander. Have a good one!

Thanks again, Weasel, for everything.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 06, 2024 08:59 PM (tT6L1)

224 Mossberg I would trust entirely.
Savage I trust. But I have no experience.
Posted by: GWB
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Older Remingtons, police type models, are often to be had, prefer the Wingmaster to the bog std. 870's and I prefer a Mossberg over either for social purposes due to the tang safety.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 08:59 PM (bt/Nj)

225 Trying to do my part though my shoulder feels like it is going to come off. Using voice to text to avoid using it.
Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 08:11 PM (bt/Nj)

Sorry to hear that, sir. Hopefully it all stays in one piece and gets less painful.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at October 06, 2024 09:00 PM (v23vE)

226 217 Signing out for the night. Time to try to get the pills down my poor pup's throat. I hate doing it almost as much as she hates having it done, but it's necessary. She hasn't kept down anything she's eaten in days. Another trip to the vet is in the cards tomorrow.
Good night, all, and hope I can contribute to the thread better next week.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen
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Prayers for your pup's well being.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 09:00 PM (bt/Nj)

227 1911s that go "click" instead of "bang": Something to check is the "firing pin safety" found on some modern 1911s. They are intended to prevent the pistol from firing if dropped, but can malfunction and prevent the gun from firing.
Commonly referred to as "Series 80" guns, from the system developed by Colt, they come in different proprietary styles.
I had one that was operated by the grip safety. If you depressed the safety just the right amount, the hammer would drop but the gun wouldn't fire. I found this to be most distressing.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 06, 2024 09:00 PM (ACPxx)

228 Sorry to hear that, sir. Hopefully it all stays in one piece and gets less painful.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy
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Complications from inflammatory arthritis. Insurance forced change of medicine in march and haven't been the same since.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 09:01 PM (bt/Nj)

229 Prepping? Have markers set up at various distances appropriate to your sighting in of your weapons.
Posted by: GWB at October 06, 2024 08:36 PM

Wait...there are people out there who don't have range cards for their property? Be better, people....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 06, 2024 09:01 PM (Wnv9h)

230 Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at October 06, 2024 08:55 PM (3rnQf)

Hope your pup gets well soon!

Posted by: Ed L at October 06, 2024 09:02 PM (yRXSd)

231 Pillage Idiot, I'll email you that info in the morning.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 06, 2024 09:02 PM (I1GXe)

232 Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 06, 2024 08:59 PM (tT6L1)
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You bet, amigo.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 09:03 PM (uGpeQ)

233 Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 06, 2024 08:59 PM (HlyYF)

IIRC, it was around $105 per night. I don't know if there are any rooms left, though.

Posted by: Ed L at October 06, 2024 09:03 PM (yRXSd)

234 227 1911s that go "click" instead of "bang": Something to check is the "firing pin safety" found on some modern 1911s. They are intended to prevent the pistol from firing if dropped, but can malfunction and prevent the gun from firing.
Commonly referred to as "Series 80" guns, from the system developed by Colt, they come in different proprietary styles.
I had one that was operated by the grip safety. If you depressed the safety just the right amount, the hammer would drop but the gun wouldn't fire. I found this to be most distressing.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
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Good point. Schwartz safeties aka 80 series can do that. Designed to prevent the pistol firing when dropped on the hammer. I think some Kimbers have it along with S&W 1911s.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 09:04 PM (bt/Nj)

235 Prepping? Have markers set up at various distances appropriate to your sighting in of your weapons.
Posted by: GWB

Folks don't do this?

Odd.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 06, 2024 09:04 PM (WXNFJ)

236 I'm feeling an urge to pray for Israel and the Jewish people as the anniversary of Oct 8 approaches
The murderous barbarians might get nasty.

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 06, 2024 09:05 PM (FfSAJ)

237 231 Pillage Idiot, I'll email you that info in the morning.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 06, 2024 09:02 PM

Thnx!

P.S. Do you know if Rancher Bob still has room for one more trailer if we go with that option?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 06, 2024 09:06 PM (HlyYF)

238 TRex - lots of great advice in there. Reviewing the preps so far and sharping up where necessary.

I have too many ammo cans to bug out. And I'm too old. But mainly too many ammo cans. . . .

Posted by: Tonypete at October 06, 2024 09:06 PM (WXNFJ)

239 Pillage Idiot, plenty of room.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 06, 2024 09:06 PM (I1GXe)

240 Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 06, 2024 09:00 PM (ACPxx)

I have several Colt Series 80 pistols (1991A1, Mark IV, M45A1) and have never experienced this particular problem personally. I understand that several foreign manufacturers of 1911 clones use the older Schwartz safety design from the 1930s. Colt incorporated the Schwartz safety into its commercial Government Model line beginning in 1937 or so but didn't use them again after WWII. I don't have a Colt w/ a Schwartz safety in it for comparison, though. Of course, Colt's patent on the Schwartz safety has long since expired.

Posted by: Ed L at October 06, 2024 09:10 PM (yRXSd)

241 Thanks early to Weasel and co.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 09:10 PM (bt/Nj)

242 Hey y'all.

For those attending the Tx MoMe,
Please bring eyes, ears, ammo and patience. Many of y'all have a ton of shooting experience. Some do not. We need to make certain everyone is safe and has fun. If you feel I'm treating you like a novice, I apologize. I'm not an expert, but a few of us have been asked to make certain No one has an AD. And if you feel you can help, please email weasel.

Thank you.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 06, 2024 09:11 PM (Him2A)

243 Posted by: nurse ratched at October 06, 2024 09:11 PM (Him2A)

Listen well to nurse ratched!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at October 06, 2024 09:13 PM (hOUT3)

244 Early night for me, boss. Thanks as always.

Posted by: RI Red at October 06, 2024 09:14 PM (SuQXo)

245 OK,, 9:16 thank you time!

Thank you!

Thanks to each and every one of all y'all and I hope to see you next Sunday, I'll try and have a little more content!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 09:16 PM (uGpeQ)

246 Complications from inflammatory arthritis. Insurance forced change of medicine in march and haven't been the same since.
Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 09:01 PM (bt/Nj)

Ugh. We've had medication changes go badly in my family too. My wife has rheumatoid arthritis, and the last biologic infusion that insurance approved put her in the ER. Thinking maybe we don't want to use that one in the future...

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at October 06, 2024 09:16 PM (v23vE)

247 Anyone know the cost/night for the motel rooms in "Moron block" for the TXMoMe?

About $125/night plus $16 taxes/fees. Not "cheap" but frickin' Motel 6 is $70+ at most places now and I can say from experience that the Corsicana Motel 6 is a borderline sh*thole and the Red Roof is too but on the other side of the border.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 06, 2024 09:20 PM (/y8xj)

248 Weasel, I need to zero an ACOG, but only have access to a range w/ a max distance of 20 yards. I have GI 25 meter zero targets for M16s/M4s. Should I use those and have the bullets strike a bit high on the target at 20 yards as a Kentucky windage solution to this lack of available distance?

I think that is why the county generously sets up Stop signs, so that you have a nice reflective target with a center ring on a long enough unobscured sight line to dial in for longer distances.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 06, 2024 09:21 PM (rHxhM)

249 WBG's shooting was easier than it looked. He just shot so fast that the damned thing couldn't get going.

Really...that's cheating.

[Obviously I am pathetically jealous. Oh...he can do that with shotguns too]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 06, 2024 09:22 PM (d9fT1)

250 Posted by: nurse ratched at October 06, 2024 09:11 PM (Him2A)

Listen well to nurse ratched!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at October 06, 2024 09:13 PM (hOUT3)

This!!!
While she is explaining stuff with her left hand, in her right is a huge hypodermic needle!
You've been warned!

Posted by: Diogenes at October 06, 2024 09:23 PM (W/lyH)

251 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 06, 2024 09:22 PM (d9fT1)
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He's really a naturally gifted shooter. Glad he's on our side!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 09:25 PM (uGpeQ)

252 Good evening gubthreaders and all the ships at sea.

I am VERY late to the gun thread my apologies.

I was in Western NC helping a buddy get a generator hooked up to his mains so he could have little stuff like you know running water.

This is not the venue for my on the spot reporting from the Helene aftermath. It's better and worse than you hear.

We did pack for looters so it counts.

Posted by: blaster at October 06, 2024 09:25 PM (QfvaV)

253 of Oct 8 approaches
The murderous barbarians might get nasty.

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 06, 2024 09:05 PM (FfSAJ)

Israel will page the bad guys to warn them off....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 06, 2024 09:25 PM (d9fT1)

254 He's really a naturally gifted shooter. Glad he's on our side!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 09:25 PM (uGpeQ)

Yup!

It's just not fair though.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 06, 2024 09:26 PM (d9fT1)

255 of Oct 8 approaches
The murderous barbarians might get nasty.

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 06, 2024 09:05 PM (FfSAJ)

Israel will page the bad guys to warn them off....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 06, 2024 09:25 PM (d9fT1)
***

Israel has announced "nothing" is off the table.
Hmmmm...

Posted by: Diogenes at October 06, 2024 09:26 PM (W/lyH)

256 It's just not fair though.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 06, 2024 09:26 PM (d9fT1)
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Agreed!

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 09:28 PM (uGpeQ)

257 246/
I am in that camp too...I hold my breath that our insurance company doesn't decide to deny my biologic, the one that has kept me walking since my diagnosis in 2011.

Posted by: Grateful at October 06, 2024 09:30 PM (IQ6Gq)

258 252 Good evening gubthreaders and all the ships at sea.

I am VERY late to the gun thread my apologies.

I was in Western NC helping a buddy get a generator hooked up to his mains so he could have little stuff like you know running water.

This is not the venue for my on the spot reporting from the Helene aftermath. It's better and worse than you hear.

We did pack for looters so it counts.
Posted by: blaster at October 06, 2024 09:25 PM (QfvaV)

Bless you for stepping up to help!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at October 06, 2024 09:30 PM (v23vE)

259 Kinda sad here.
Just learned a good friend and mentor, LTG Pat Hughes has passed.away. A very good soldier who tread the line between politics and soldiering as well as anyone.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 06, 2024 09:34 PM (W/lyH)

260 Thanks for hosting, Weasel! See you in TX!

Posted by: Ed L at October 06, 2024 09:34 PM (yRXSd)

261 >>> 242 Hey y'all.

For those attending the Tx MoMe,
Please bring eyes, ears, ammo and patience. Many of y'all have a ton of shooting experience. Some do not. We need to make certain everyone is safe and has fun. If you feel I'm treating you like a novice, I apologize. I'm not an expert, but a few of us have been asked to make certain No one has an AD. And if you feel you can help, please email weasel.

Thank you.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 06, 2024 09:11 PM (Him2A)

We want everyone to go home with the exact same number of holes they arrived with.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 06, 2024 09:35 PM (FnneF)

262 Ugh. We've had medication changes go badly in my family too. My wife has rheumatoid arthritis, and the last biologic infusion that insurance approved put her in the ER. Thinking maybe we don't want to use that one in the future...
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy

Feel for your wife. I have psoriatic arthritis with beginnings of ankylosing spondilitis along a deteriorating spine with multiple disk failures and was using Humira. .

Now that Humira has a bioequivalent (Hyrimoz) I was forced to switch for cost and the replacement is not doing the job. Have to build a case for insurance now to switch to another.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 09:38 PM (bt/Nj)

263 Thanks horde. Thanks Weasel. Happy birthday Nurse. Have a great week y'all!

Posted by: TRex at October 06, 2024 09:39 PM (IQ6Gq)

264 257 246/
I am in that camp too...I hold my breath that our insurance company doesn't decide to deny my biologic, the one that has kept me walking since my diagnosis in 2011.
Posted by: Grateful
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Watch for when your drug goes off patent and a new bio equivalent pops up. That is what has been causing me problems since March this year.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 09:40 PM (bt/Nj)

265 I have psoriatic arthritis with beginnings of ankylosing spondilitis along a deteriorating spine with multiple disk failures and was using Humira. .

Now that Humira has a bioequivalent (Hyrimoz) I was forced to switch for cost and the replacement is not doing the job. Have to build a case for insurance now to switch to another.
Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 09:38 PM (bt/Nj)
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I'm in exactly the same spot.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 09:40 PM (uGpeQ)

266 We want everyone to go home with the exact same number of holes they arrived with.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
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Trannies might say that was discriminatory and a micro aggression.

Hole shaming is regarded as bad.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 09:41 PM (bt/Nj)

267 Now that Humira has a bioequivalent (Hyrimoz) I was forced to switch for cost and the replacement is not doing the job. Have to build a case for insurance now to switch to another.
Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 09:38 PM (bt/Nj)

Have you tried contacting the manufacturer of Humira? Perhaps they could be talked into selling it to you at the generic price if they can be permitted to cite your case as proof the generic is crap.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 06, 2024 09:42 PM (lz/nK)

268 238 TRex - lots of great advice in there. Reviewing the preps so far and sharping up where necessary.

I have too many ammo cans to bug out. And I'm too old. But mainly too many ammo cans. . . .
Posted by: Tonypete at October 06, 2024 09:06 PM (WXNFJ
Train up your neighbors.

Posted by: Eromero at October 06, 2024 09:42 PM (LHPAg)

269 I'm in exactly the same spot.
Posted by: Weasel
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Sorry about that and wish you well in fighting any bad insurance moves.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 09:43 PM (bt/Nj)

270 Let's keep the holes in the targets.

Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 09:43 PM (uGpeQ)

271 About $125/night plus $16 taxes/fees. Not "cheap" but frickin' Motel 6 is $70+ at most places now and I can say from experience that the Corsicana Motel 6 is a borderline sh*thole and the Red Roof is too but on the other side of the border.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 06, 2024 09:20 PM

Thanks for the exact numbers Oddbob.

I think my wife wants a trailer so she can escape from the Morons and go read a book if we prove to be too much.

Wife when talking about attending this year, "You mean it will be a giant group of people, just like you?"

Me: "Yes, just like me ... but better!"

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 06, 2024 09:43 PM (HlyYF)

272 I've been watching a lot of horror movies lately. And I actually think of Weasel and the gun thread during them.

Sometimes I'm counting bullets fired and think how that must drive you nuts. Or any number of inaccuracies you'd notice that I wouldn't.

Or there have been a lot of movies with liberal characters who would find guns icky. But then all crap breaks loose and they go looking for a gun.

Or, in tonight's 1980 "Cannibal Holocaust." A professor was just being introduced to his guide. The guide took someone's gun, twirled it around, held it out in front of his face while he looked down the barrel.

And I just thought to myself, "Yeah, Weasel and the Gun Thread probably wouldn't approve of that move..."

I had to share.

All of you have a good week. But for many of you, the best you can manage.

Posted by: Stateless at October 06, 2024 09:44 PM (jvJvP)

273 271 I think my wife wants a trailer so she can escape from the Morons and go read a book if we prove to be too much.

Wife when talking about attending this year, "You mean it will be a giant group of people, just like you?"

Me: "Yes, just like me ... but better!"

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 06, 2024 09:43 PM
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Bwahahahahahah!!!

Posted by: TRex at October 06, 2024 09:44 PM (IQ6Gq)

274 Now that Humira has a bioequivalent (Hyrimoz) I was forced to switch for cost and the replacement is not doing the job. Have to build a case for insurance now to switch to another.
Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 09:38 PM (bt/Nj)
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I'm in exactly the same spot.
Posted by: Weasel at October 06, 2024 09:40 PM (uGpeQ)

Glad it's not just us. I changed jobs last year and we had to start the whole prior-authorization dance again. Very frustrating -- almost like the insurance companies want to collect our premiums and, y'know, not cover THE STUFF THAT WORKS.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at October 06, 2024 09:44 PM (v23vE)

275 We want everyone to go home with the exact same number of holes they arrived with.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 06, 2024 09:35 PM

I plan on stuffing my pie hole with bacon.

Will that be socially acceptable to go home with one fewer hole?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 06, 2024 09:46 PM (HlyYF)

276 I have a couple of patients who have been forced off Humora by their insurance company.

It has not worked well for them. They are forced to endure increased pain. They are unable to perform their usual activities of daily living. This must be documented for several months before insurance will approve them going back to the medication that worked.

It's criminal.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 06, 2024 09:47 PM (Y+DQr)

277 >>> 272
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And I just thought to myself, "Yeah, Weasel and the Gun Thread probably wouldn't approve of that move..."

I had to share.
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Posted by: Stateless at October 06, 2024 09:44 PM (jvJvP)

It's amazing how many movie posters show the main character(s) with 'the booger hook on the boom switch'.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 06, 2024 09:47 PM (FnneF)

278 Have you tried contacting the manufacturer of Humira? Perhaps they could be talked into selling it to you at the generic price if they can be permitted to cite your case as proof the generic is crap.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Possibly. I am in a PPO organization as a retiree and have to investigate. Simply been too sick to do much more than document via PT, Pharmacist, my various docs, etc. that the present drug is not working. Did not want to get into it but tomorrow I find out if I have to have duplicate surgery on my right arm to free the nerve channels as my median nerve from the shoulder is going numb, burning at times, and hurting bad enough to disrupt sleep.

Pain doc decided too extensive to just pump some cortisone in and so the surgical consult. She did my left arm eighteen months ago for the same reason. Median nerve is being pinched in multiple places in the right arm from the thumb to the rotator cuff.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 09:47 PM (bt/Nj)

279 We want everyone to go home with the exact same number of holes they arrived with.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket
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Have a great time, all. No bonus holes.

Posted by: scampydog at October 06, 2024 09:47 PM (41CYW)

280 We want everyone to go home with the exact same number of holes they arrived with.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

NO BONUS HOLES!

Posted by: haffhowershower at October 06, 2024 09:47 PM (NMT5x)

281 275 We want everyone to go home with the exact same number of holes they arrived with.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 06, 2024 09:35 PM

I plan on stuffing my pie hole with bacon.

Will that be socially acceptable to go home with one fewer hole?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 06, 2024 09:46 PM (HlyYF)

Well, that's an angle I'd never considered ... but it sounds tempting.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at October 06, 2024 09:48 PM (v23vE)

282 >>> 275 We want everyone to go home with the exact same number of holes they arrived with.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 06, 2024 09:35 PM

I plan on stuffing my pie hole with bacon.

Will that be socially acceptable to go home with one fewer hole?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 06, 2024 09:46 PM (HlyYF)

Stuffed Hole Missing Hole

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 06, 2024 09:48 PM (FnneF)

283 weasel you've got mail

Posted by: blaster at October 06, 2024 09:49 PM (QfvaV)

284 Bad Pixy!!!

Stuffed Hole Missing Hole

Stuffed Hole != Missing Hole

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 06, 2024 09:49 PM (FnneF)

285 Pixy really hates less than followed by greater than.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 06, 2024 09:49 PM (FnneF)

286 Kinda sad here.
Just learned a good friend and mentor, LTG Pat Hughes has passed.away. A very good soldier who tread the line between politics and soldiering as well as anyone.
Diogenes
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Condolences to you, may he rest in eternal peace.

Posted by: Grateful at October 06, 2024 09:50 PM (IQ6Gq)

287 It's amazing how many movie posters show the main character(s) with 'the booger hook on the boom switch'.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 06, 2024 09:47 PM (FnneF)

Well, to play Devil's Advocate for this one, maybe the movie posters purport to be stills from the film, cut from an active gun fight?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 06, 2024 09:50 PM (lz/nK)

288 275 We want everyone to go home with the exact same number of holes they arrived with.
Helena Handbasket
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Amen... you can't imagine the amount of paperwork involved with an incident, including permanent records!

Posted by: Grateful at October 06, 2024 09:52 PM (IQ6Gq)

289 Sorry meant to say with duplicate--a surgery that I had to free up the nerve channels on my left arm might also be required now for my right. Had nerve conductive test last Friday plus ultrasound indicating trapped and a very irritated median nerve in multiple spots--elbow, forearm, wrist, and shoulder.

A lot of people have massive photo albums, I have bulging medical files from when this started over a decade ago.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 09:52 PM (bt/Nj)

290 >>> 287 It's amazing how many movie posters show the main character(s) with 'the booger hook on the boom switch'.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 06, 2024 09:47 PM (FnneF)

Well, to play Devil's Advocate for this one, maybe the movie posters purport to be stills from the film, cut from an active gun fight?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 06, 2024 09:50 PM (lz/nK)

Yup, I'm sure there are cases like that; I was thinking of some of the Lethal Weapon posters in particular but I know I've seen others like them where it's just a close-up of the leads.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 06, 2024 09:54 PM (FnneF)

291 Need to check out a little early. Thanks Weasel for hosting. Look forward to seeing many of you in a week and change!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at October 06, 2024 09:55 PM (v23vE)

292 287 It's amazing how many movie posters show the main character(s) with 'the booger hook on the boom switch'.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 06, 2024 09:47 PM (FnneF)
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I notice that too and find myself watching for it during the movie also.

Posted by: scampydog at October 06, 2024 09:56 PM (41CYW)

293 Pixy really hates less than followed by greater than.

Because it looks like an HTML tag. Actually I think that as far as the might Minx 0.8 beta is concerned anything starting with a less than sign is deleted out of, as they say, "an abundance of caution."

Posted by: Oddbob at October 06, 2024 09:56 PM (/y8xj)

294 Grateful - reminder to make sure the industrial strength staple gun is in the medical kit for Texas.

Posted by: TRex at October 06, 2024 09:57 PM (IQ6Gq)

295 I notice that too and find myself watching for it during the movie also.
Posted by: scampydog at October 06, 2024 09:56 PM (41CYW)

It's all a base calumny!

Posted by: Alec Baldwin at October 06, 2024 09:57 PM (lz/nK)

296 290 >>> 287 It's amazing how many movie posters show the main character(s) with 'the booger hook on the boom switch'.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 06, 2024 09:47 PM (FnneF)

Well, to play Devil's Advocate for this one, maybe the movie posters purport to be stills from the film, cut from an active gun fight?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 06, 2024 09:50 PM (lz/nK)

Yup, I'm sure there are cases like that; I was thinking of some of the Lethal Weapon posters in particular but I know I've seen others like them where it's just a close-up of the leads.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
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They also like to rack their weapons just before going in. Serious bad move tactically, that.

Any carry gun should have a round in the chamber as you might not have time to rack the slide or botch it on a draw. A house firearm might give you enough time to rack but that is something not to do when you have to draw from concealment.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 09:58 PM (bt/Nj)

297 Sorry I did not help Weasel get to match CBD's count but I tried.

Gnight folks.

Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 09:59 PM (bt/Nj)

298 So the TXMOME is weekend after next? I might could stick my head in briefly this year, maybe. My sainted West Texas Prussian mother passed away today and I will be burying her week after next outside Rowena so I will actually be in state, as it were.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 06, 2024 09:59 PM (mUdkR)

299 I would like some of those bottomless magazines people in the movies often have...

Posted by: TRex at October 06, 2024 10:00 PM (IQ6Gq)

300 297 Sorry I did not help Weasel get to match CBD's count but I tried.

Gnight folks.
Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 09:59 PM (bt/Nj)

ONT isn't up yet ... just sayin'

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at October 06, 2024 10:00 PM (v23vE)

301 They also like to rack their weapons just before going in. Serious bad move tactically, that.

Any carry gun should have a round in the chamber as you might not have time to rack the slide or botch it on a draw. A house firearm might give you enough time to rack but that is something not to do when you have to draw from concealment.
Posted by: whig at October 06, 2024 09:58 PM (bt/Nj)

What movie was it in which the female lead weaponized her rack?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 06, 2024 10:00 PM (lz/nK)

302 the booger hook on the boom switch'.

In many ways this is also the story of Barak Obama.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 06, 2024 10:00 PM (nNkxN)

303 Thanks Weasel.

Posted by: scampydog at October 06, 2024 10:01 PM (41CYW)

304 299 I would like some of those bottomless magazines people in the movies often have...
Posted by: TRex at October 06, 2024 10:00 PM (IQ6Gq)

Only in free states, though - Massachusetts, California, New York, etc. would impose a limit on bottomless mags.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at October 06, 2024 10:01 PM (v23vE)

305 298- My sainted West Texas Prussian mother passed away today and I will be burying her week after next outside Rowena so I will actually be in state, as it were.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 06, 2024 09:59 PM

So sorry to hear that. Condolences to you and your family.

Posted by: Moonbeam at October 06, 2024 10:02 PM (rbKZ6)

306 So the TXMOME is weekend after next? I might could stick my head in briefly this year, maybe. My sainted West Texas Prussian mother passed away today and I will be burying her week after next outside Rowena so I will actually be in state, as it were.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 06, 2024 09:59 PM (mUdkR)

Please accept my condolences, G'rump. May her memory be a blessing.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 06, 2024 10:02 PM (lz/nK)

307 ONT's up. Night, all, and a valiant effort. Weasel, say hi to the Ewok tomorrow morning for us!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at October 06, 2024 10:02 PM (v23vE)

308 Grateful - reminder to make sure the industrial strength staple gun is in the medical kit for Texas.
************
I keep telling you people that Weasel is in charge of the staple gun....

Posted by: Grateful at October 06, 2024 10:03 PM (IQ6Gq)

309 >>> 298 So the TXMOME is weekend after next? I might could stick my head in briefly this year, maybe. My sainted West Texas Prussian mother passed away today and I will be burying her week after next outside Rowena so I will actually be in state, as it were.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 06, 2024 09:59 PM (mUdkR)

Sorry to hear this.

That's correct; Ben Had's contact info is in the left sidebar. It would be great to have you, although I will just point out that if you can't make it, next year will be the *10th* TX MoMee.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 06, 2024 10:04 PM (FnneF)

310 Thank you guys. She has been a long time dying and today at 4PM she slipped these surly bounds with grace and peace, surround by family, a small smile upon her lips as though contemplating a race well run and a quick trip home.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 06, 2024 10:05 PM (mUdkR)

311 310 Thank you guys. She has been a long time dying and today at 4PM she slipped these surly bounds with grace and peace, surround by family, a small smile upon her lips as though contemplating a race well run and a quick trip home.
Posted by: G'rump928(c)

A beautiful semi-eulogy, may you and your family rejoice in the memory of her life!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at October 06, 2024 10:15 PM (hOUT3)

312 ONT is up.

Condolences G'rump.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at October 06, 2024 10:17 PM (HlyYF)

313 Wait...there are people out there who don't have range cards for their property? Be better, people....
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 06, 2024 09:01 PM (Wnv9h)

Everything on MY property would be inside any sighting in I had done.

And the neighbors object to me putting them in THEIR yards.

Posted by: GWB at October 06, 2024 10:29 PM (DDSgs)

314 Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 06, 2024 09:59 PM (mUdkR)

Condolences, G'rump. And may God strengthen you and your family through this time, and give you peace.

Posted by: GWB at October 06, 2024 10:39 PM (DDSgs)

315 I bought a Sako 90.

Posted by: Leninism at October 06, 2024 10:57 PM (QlfYI)

316
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