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Nearly 100 Dead as Hurricane Helene Ravages North Carolina and Florida; Asheville, NC Sees "Apocalyptic" Damage

A terrible storm.

I asked in a comment, but let me ask here: If you're a reader in the path of the hurricane, please check in and let us know if you're safe.

At least 99 people have died from Hurricane Helene. FOX Weather correspondent Robert Ray reports the latest on the devastation from Asheville, North Carolina.

One Asheville, North Carolina resident sounded the alarm as his community battles the devastation left by Hurricane Helene, detailing the "apocalyptic weekend" as the death toll continues to rise while millions are left without power and water.

"It's been an incredibly apocalyptic weekend for all of us here," Asheville resident Gregory Harrison said. "Almost no gas. There is almost no cell service. There's limited power. There is limited food. There are people who are trying to find potable water to feed their families, to have water for their kids."

Officials in Asheville are still trying to rescue residents who have been trapped by the historic flooding over the weekend, which has left many without access to power, running water and cell service.

...

Buncombe County communications director Lillian Govus urged people in surrounding areas to avoid coming to the affected communities to maximize search and rescue efforts.

"Right now, we need people to not come here," Govus told Lawrence Jones. "We are still in an active search and rescue phase. We have active flooding now. Like you said, it will take just a little bit of rain and we'll have more landslides, more mudslides."
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Govus said her community is no longer recognizable after the deadly storm.

"I live out in Black Mountain. What is there now does not resemble anything of the community where I lived before," Govus said. "Homes are completely gone. Power lines are destroyed. The poles are snapped in half and dangling on other places."
30 dead in Asheville, NC area after Hurricane Helene Video

"Houses are completely washed away. We don't have running water, and so that's a really big public health crisis for us right now," she continued.

...

Another Asheville resident, who owns an art studio that was luckily spared, said she moved to North Carolina after Hurricane Ian in hopes of evading another catastrophic storm.

"I came from Florida after Hurricane Ian. I thought this is the area to be safe and this is not safe," she said. "They said this... could happen, but it was hard to believe," she continued.

I relaxed over the weekend, too. But I'm not "the President."

Before the hurricane hit (and killed 100), a comedian filmed a parody weather report. This might not be funny given how deadly the storm was. But maybe you'll find it amusing.

Posted by: Ace at 01:24 PM




Comments

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1 Howdy!

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at September 30, 2024 01:24 PM (VGRuw)

2 Where’s Joe or Kammie?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 30, 2024 01:25 PM (u73oe)

3 Horrific

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 30, 2024 01:25 PM (zjgNU)

4 God bless and protect them all.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 30, 2024 01:26 PM (Aqu9a)

5 AshevilleRobert? Or is that a different Asheville

Posted by: ... at September 30, 2024 01:26 PM (LCr8f)

6 100 dead.

1/100th of Democrat election prayers are answered!!

Posted by: ... at September 30, 2024 01:27 PM (LCr8f)

7 Katrina Precident says that the Junta is personally responsible for the disaster.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 30, 2024 01:28 PM (/lPRQ)

8 I have directed my FEMA Director to save all the New Americans in the area, who may be stranded in parking lots at Home Depot or Lowe's.

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 30, 2024 01:28 PM (cLUev)

9 Willowed:

My theory is that NC is a 'must win' for Kamala and Biden could do a lot to help them out and help Kamala by giving her credit.

But the knife in his back still hurts too much.

Petty man gonna be a little bitch 'til the end.

I saw the DOT of the state says 400 roads are closed in that area. Bridges out, roads washed away. Choppers are the only way in.
Posted by: Divide by Zero


Same with the longshoremen strike. Biden could step in and force binding arbitration. But he has said he won't. It'll hurt Kamala. Probably as much as the knife in Biden's back.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 30, 2024 01:28 PM (sDO9P)

10 Very sad situation. I ended up fine, though with some trees down. Tampa/St Pete had huge areas underwater. Inland NC and TN just got completely flooded with rain.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at September 30, 2024 01:28 PM (7PziG)

11 The silence is deafening from DC. And of course, Politico is wailing: Former President Donald Trump is making Hurricane Helene into a campaign issue.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 30, 2024 01:29 PM (OPGS/)

12 FEMA has been repurposed into a Welcome Wagon for "migrants", which is why they are currently invisible in North Carolina.

Also, as East Palestine, Ohio, found out, providing assistance to white people who are mostly conservative is not a priority for the Federal government.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 30, 2024 01:29 PM (uxCna)

13 Fortunately Asheville does not have a super dome.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 30, 2024 01:29 PM (/lPRQ)

14 the feds say best they can do is to send a few bus loads of Haitians, and maybe some Guatemalans

Posted by: brak at September 30, 2024 01:30 PM (25k9m)

15 Some grisly discoveries are being made in the form of drowned occupants of automobiles.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 30, 2024 01:30 PM (MeG8a)

16 Another Asheville resident, who owns an art studio that was luckily spared, said she moved to North Carolina after Hurricane Ian in hopes of evading another catastrophic storm.

"I came from Florida after Hurricane Ian. I thought this is the area to be safe and this is not safe," she said. "They said this... could happen, but it was hard to believe," she continued.



Pssst. Omaha.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 30, 2024 01:30 PM (sDO9P)

17 If this was George W. Bush, we know exactly what the media would be saying.

Bush was actually doing far more at this point during Katrina. https://t.co/xdJUUOM5tF

— Pradheep J. Shanker, M.D. (@neoavatara) September 30, 2024

======

Well, okay, the media may be demonstrating that it has two standards in this instance.

But I'm sure it's fair everywhere else.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 30, 2024 01:30 PM (GBKbO)

18 Why, it is almost as if "Middle Class Joe" (and Middle Class Kameltoe) is a complete fraud, or something.

Posted by: Jay in PA at September 30, 2024 01:30 PM (i7Q7S)

19 Repost:

Limitless $$$ to Ukraine, $2.4B for the South, $100B Needed - Independent Sentinel

https://tinyurl.com/3tenbfwk

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 30, 2024 01:31 PM (i24o9)

20 The junta will make sure that none of the people affected by the storm and flooding will be able to reclaim the land they once lived on.

Too dangerous. No insurance. No building permits. No loans.

But here's a nice apartment you and your family can rent. It's only 15 minutes from "everything."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 30, 2024 01:31 PM (Q4IgG)

21 The solution is simple: Asheville should put up Hamas and Ukraine flags. Money and support will flood in (no pun intended) faster than the residents can say "Kumala sucks."

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at September 30, 2024 01:31 PM (iFTx/)

22 Afternoon.

Freakin' incredible. You don't expect the western part of a state like that to suffer such destruction from a storm that came in south from the Gulf of Mexico.

Posted by: Robert at September 30, 2024 01:31 PM (oBjwB)

23 The silence is deafening from DC. And of course, Politico is wailing: Former President Donald Trump is making Hurricane Helene into a campaign issue.
Posted by: NR Pax



As he should. Lack of response is appalling.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 30, 2024 01:31 PM (sDO9P)

24 (willowed/brought forward)

"Bush's/Fill in Blank's Katrina moment"

"Bush's 'Mission Accomplished' moment"

"Trump's 'Charlottesville' moment"

And other examples ad nauseam.

All of them completely fabricated, incorrect, distorted "moments", pathetic media fiction.

All of them absolutely embedded into the speech and mindset of "conservatives" and everybody else.

"You don't hate lazy, uninformed, critical thinking-challenged people, incl. 'conservatives', enough". (that's the idiotic teenage phrase so popular with the "conservative" lightweights online, I believe)

Posted by: rhomboid at September 30, 2024 01:32 PM (GcNJ2)

25 My area (Upstate South Carolina) was hammered pretty hard, although not as hard as Western NC. I am lucky, as my power has been restored and we were able to save our refrigerated food thanks to a generator. The only damage we sustained is a dented gutter where a limb fell and glanced off the house. But there are houses in every neighborhood with trees on them. And it is still really bad out there on the roads. Indeed, in some cases has gotten worse given that trees are still falling over. Many are still without power no one seems to know when it will be restored. Lots of friends and coworkers are also getting antsy about groceries since the stores had to throw out tons of food and have been raided since Friday. I am glad we get our meat delivered in bulk so food is not really a concern for us.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 30, 2024 01:32 PM (Z4pVM)

26 Hey, guess what FEMA's number ONE goal is!! It's in the column on the left: https://www.fema.gov/about/strategic-plan

Posted by: Blast Hardcheese at September 30, 2024 01:32 PM (PWI4f)

27 Im sure our NATO allies will be pledging billions in aid to our storm ravaged areas. Right?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 30, 2024 01:32 PM (u73oe)

28 Right now Joe Biden is a beacon of light and a model for all elected officials to follow right now in these trying times.

Seriously.

Shut the fuck up, go to some undisclosed beach somewhere, sit the fuck down, and let America buckle down, get to work, and get back to being America.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 30, 2024 01:32 PM (VoAdT)

29 I have to believe that behind the bs, the rank and file FEMA and local first responders are busting their butts. But the media will spin this to their own purposes and give credit where it isn't due.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 30, 2024 01:33 PM (W/lyH)

30 This has to be the first national disaster in the history of the United States where we do not actually have a President, right?

Posted by: Jay in PA at September 30, 2024 01:33 PM (i7Q7S)

31 "I came from Florida after Hurricane Ian. I thought this is the area to be safe and this is not safe," she said. "They said this... could happen, but it was hard to believe," she continued.



Pssst. Omaha.

====

Missed the chance to "F5 Tornado"

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 30, 2024 01:33 PM (/lPRQ)

32 It somehow went east then up and around me. I got really nothing from its west side, just rain and mild winds. I figured because I'm up a tiny north GA mountain, like 600-800 feet that there wouldn't be any problem anyway. But those poor people were on the sides of mountains too and got wash from higher up. They probably had no idea, no one in living memory there probably ever experienced anything like that. Terrible.

Posted by: banana Dream at September 30, 2024 01:33 PM (Y6IkP)

33 FEMA's home page declares that aid is dispensed according to DEI guidelines.
Whitey need not apply.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 30, 2024 01:33 PM (MeG8a)

34 My wife and I were talking of how we have been lucky in buying houses that didn't get floods. Back in Richmond, we once looked out the window and the media strip was under water, but we were dry.

I do feel sorry for those to the west of us. (Except the Asheville commies. They wanted this shit.)

Posted by: Eeyore at September 30, 2024 01:33 PM (1bNHn)

35 20 The junta will make sure that none of the people affected by the storm and flooding will be able to reclaim the land they once lived on.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 30, 2024 01:31 PM (Q4IgG)

It'll all be designated a wetland.

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at September 30, 2024 01:33 PM (VGRuw)

36 I liked PDT's statement about getting in to help, but, also not going into certain areas because first responders need to worry about the job and not PDT.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 30, 2024 01:34 PM (tT6L1)

37 "I came from Florida after Hurricane Ian. I thought this is the area to be safe and this is not safe," she said. "They said this... could happen, but it was hard to believe," she continued.

People need to understand that no place is "safe". All you can do is choose the form of the destructor.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 30, 2024 01:34 PM (nR2nR)

38 Since it is Ds in the WH the FNM narrative is surely "See, see, we told you Climate Change would kill people, and if you elect Trump the next storm will be even worse", rather than reporting on how useless FEMA, Biden, Harris, and the local D politicians are being.

Posted by: PaleRider at September 30, 2024 01:34 PM (UKUm3)

39 the feds say best they can do is to send a few bus loads of Haitians, and maybe some Guatemalans
Posted by: brak
......

There goes the neighborhood.

Posted by: wth at September 30, 2024 01:34 PM (v0R5T)

40 Pssst. Omaha.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices


Yes, the Great Plains are totally safe from those nasty hurricanes. So please come here.
-- Tornadoes, hurricane competitors

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 30, 2024 01:34 PM (v6JzV)

41
The roads and bridges will need to be repaired before they can bring the utility crews in to restore power. This is an Army Corp of Engineers, National Guard from surrounding states, other military to chopper in supplies. Gonna be really bad for a long time - months to a year.

That's a long time to go without electricity.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 30, 2024 01:35 PM (RKVpM)

42 Yes, the Great Plains are totally safe from those nasty hurricanes. So please come here.
-- Tornadoes, hurricane competitors
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 30, 2024 01:34 PM (v6JzV)
---------------

Great Plains blizzards are not to be dismissed, either.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 30, 2024 01:36 PM (tT6L1)

43 This is the road to Banner Elk. They managed to get people out

https://tinyurl.com/a5465bzk

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 30, 2024 01:36 PM (MpVUb)

44 Florida might be fucked. These storms will get worse.. and then WORSE. And more frequent. Global warming is unleashing hell and will not stop.

These super-storms will become even more common events. They already are. Al Gore was right.

I wish I could afford to move. We think New Mexico, around Taos, would be wonderful. I love the artsy community there. And it's blue, blue, blue!!

I wouldn't be moving to any area where water is expected to become more and more scarce and temperatures go higher increasing the need for A/C and thus end up competing with locales who can't move for resources .

I feel bad for all the folks being affected by climate change. I haven't noticed much change in SC Kansas (my home), they are saying tornado alley (goes from OK to NE) is moving east.

We have a lot of thinking to do in the Great Lakes and Northeast. Call a regional leadership conference and start thinking as a unified region. Form a common policy on northward migration, a consortium so to speak. invite the premiers of Ontario, Manitoba, Quebec and the Canadian Maritime provinces to the table.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 30, 2024 01:37 PM (lPS5q)

45 Paul Rizzo
@PaulRiz504

It took 10+ years after Katrina to return to normal. People better start thinking in terms of decades.

No homeowner insurer will TOUCH that place until proper dams and levees are built. It was not until they dropped 18 billion on the NOLA levee system that it got better.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 30, 2024 01:37 PM (NpAcC)

46 Mother Nature is a bitch

Posted by: It's me donna at September 30, 2024 01:37 PM (IyPmt)

47 Besides all the other ways to make potable water, get a couple of cases of canned water.
They can handle a little rougher treatment than these thin assed bottles of water.

https://tinyurl.com/3v66v2p2

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 30, 2024 01:37 PM (sDO9P)

48 Yeah, the Rs should be running commercials about the lack of concern for those affected, but they won't. They wouldn't want to be accused of trying to capitalize on a tragedy. That's not who they are.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 30, 2024 01:37 PM (qXHYf)

49 Same with the longshoremen strike. Biden could step in and force binding arbitration. But he has said he won't. It'll hurt Kamala. Probably as much as the knife in Biden's back.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 30, 2024 01:28 PM (sDO9P)


That's what we get when a POTUS panders to unions instead of worrying about economic impacts of a union strike to half the country. Maybe he'll go to the Baltimore docks tomorrow to walk the picket line while screaming, "Unions made the middle class, Fat!"

Posted by: Gref at September 30, 2024 01:37 PM (aBgBM)

50 Greenville-Spartanburg-Anderson, SC, the 37th largest CSA in the country at 1.6 million people, is about 90% w/o power still. More than 19,000 telephone poles need to be replaced. I'm sure fedgov is going to help out this bright red corner.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at September 30, 2024 01:37 PM (jOYm0)

51 Be safe Hordemates

Posted by: Diogenes at September 30, 2024 01:37 PM (W/lyH)

52 44 These super-storms will become even more common events. They already are. Al Gore was right.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 30, 2024

========

It was a category 4.

Also, Gore said that there would be no more glaciers by about this point.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 30, 2024 01:37 PM (GBKbO)

53 We'll have all the roads open before you can say Beau's your Uncle.

----Mayor Pete

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 30, 2024 01:38 PM (4QfYM)

54 I feel bad for all the folks being affected by climate change. I haven't noticed much change in SC Kansas (my home), they are saying tornado alley (goes from OK to NE) is moving east.

=======

Ya I never once saw a tornado growing up in IN. Retards.

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 30, 2024 01:38 PM (CIS44)

55 Guess who is now shamelessly "tethering" Kamala to Biden.

"Our Administration . . . ."

https://tinyurl.com/2s4khp7j

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 30, 2024 01:38 PM (i24o9)

56 That is terrible news

Posted by: Skip at September 30, 2024 01:38 PM (9YFLg)

57 24 ...
"You don't hate lazy, uninformed, critical thinking-challenged people, incl. 'conservatives', enough". (that's the idiotic teenage phrase so popular with the "conservative" lightweights online, I believe)
Posted by: rhomboid at September 30, 2024 01:32 PM (GcNJ2)
______
The trouble with that is the implication that by "conservatives" the GOPe is meant. That just wasn't true. GWB finally got conservative support because the alternative was McCain. As so often, we were split over that nomination. I ended up voting for Keyes in the primary.

But neither Bush was the conservative choice.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 30, 2024 01:38 PM (1bNHn)

58 Right now Joe Biden is a beacon of light and a model for all elected officials to follow right now in these trying times.

Seriously.

Shut the fuck up, go to some undisclosed beach somewhere, sit the fuck down, and let America buckle down, get to work, and get back to being America.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 30, 2024 01:32 PM (VoAdT)

Point of order: he needs to take Congress and the bureaucrats with him.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 30, 2024 01:39 PM (nR2nR)

59 PA is probably one of the least disastery states we got.

Even when we do get "disasters", it's typically the tail end of someone else's problem that barely requires notice.

Our catastrophes tend to be more of the man-made kind. Nuclear meltdowns. Mayors strafing Main Street. Riots. That kind of thing.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 30, 2024 01:39 PM (VoAdT)

60 It has probably been about a hundred years since Asheville last saw a gulley washer like this,

Seriously, something is making those valleys, gullies, and gulches. Don't think it is gravity or wind.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 30, 2024 01:39 PM (/lPRQ)

61 It's actually been a surprisingly quiet hurricane season.

Seriously, it's almost October, and we finally got to H.

And DU is all, "We're getting super storms that are so much more powerful than ever ever day!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 30, 2024 01:39 PM (GBKbO)

62 It'll be interesting see just how much of a burden fedgov puts on those trying to help. Right now the area doesn't need money, it needs people, equipment, food and water. Yea, money pays for all that, but claiming FEMA's going to do better with $100M than first responders, utility workers and construction crews is ludicrous.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 30, 2024 01:39 PM (Q4IgG)

63 59 PA is probably one of the least disastery states we got.

Even when we do get "disasters", it's typically the tail end of someone else's problem that barely requires notice.

Our catastrophes tend to be more of the man-made kind. Nuclear meltdowns. Mayors strafing Main Street. Riots. That kind of thing.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 30, 2024 01:39 PM (VoAdT)

=======

Is the turnpike considered natural or manmade?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 30, 2024 01:39 PM (GBKbO)

64 I noticed while watching football the Kamala ads about her fighting for the working Joe and Jane were soon ghosted by Trump ads featuring Kamala promising trannies full medical transformation everywhere and especially in prison. Made me laugh.

Special note - Imma in school today.

Posted by: Pudinhead at September 30, 2024 01:39 PM (PGK1w)

65 Real Mac Report @RealMacReport 23m
Reporter: "Have you reached out to President Biden about federal relief efforts?"

President Trump: "No I haven't reached out to him. I think he's sleeping right now, actually."

https://tinyurl.com/24zjfsub
8 seconds

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 30, 2024 01:39 PM (CEzQx)

66 I can't believe the 'professional' weather forecasters didn't see the set up for this. (slightly sarcastic) There have been many times where a storm has stalled over NC and dumped snow (2000 - 24 inches) or rain (a week or two ago - 18 inches at the coast). I only saw one guy - an amateur - saying they could get up to 20 inches of rain.

Posted by: PAgirlinNC at September 30, 2024 01:40 PM (XP/kf)

67 36 I liked PDT's statement about getting in to help, but, also not going into certain areas because first responders need to worry about the job and not PDT.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 30, 2024 01:34 PM (tT6L1)

IIRC, this was the reason W gave for not landing in NOLA to personally help in the Katrina efforts. The MSM crucified him anyway.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 30, 2024 01:40 PM (SJ0+K)

68 Babylon Bee: North Carolina Agrees To Purchase Several Hunter Biden Paintings In Return For U.S. Aid

Posted by: Mark1971 at September 30, 2024 01:40 PM (NZnln)

69 Even when we do get "disasters", it's typically the tail end of someone else's problem that barely requires notice.
---------------
This was standard Vietnam reporting. Filming the wounded.

Posted by: Pudinhead at September 30, 2024 01:41 PM (PGK1w)

70 Is the turnpike considered natural or manmade?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 30, 2024 01:39 PM (GBKbO)

Eldritch.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 30, 2024 01:41 PM (VoAdT)

71 And DU is all, "We're getting super storms that are so much more powerful than ever ever day!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 30, 2024 01:39 PM (GBKbO)
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I would like to have the DUmmies explain the hurricane which wiped out Galveston in 1900.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 30, 2024 01:41 PM (tT6L1)

72 Live just outside Columbia, SC.

Worst part of the storm was that it hit us overnight. The amount of noise was unreal. Tornado warnings but I had no clue what I should be reacting to or not.

In the end, our town got off relatively light. No power for 48 hours but man, I never once lost sight of the fact that we got incredibly lucky in comparison.

Have a former co-worker who lives in Asheville. Praying he's okay.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 30, 2024 01:41 PM (KbCG3)

73 68 Babylon Bee: North Carolina Agrees To Purchase Several Hunter Biden Paintings In Return For U.S. Aid
Posted by: Mark1971 at September 30, 2024 01:40 PM (NZnln)

Or change their name to Ukraine

Posted by: It's me donna at September 30, 2024 01:41 PM (IyPmt)

74 Well, okay, the media may be demonstrating that it has two standards in this instance.

But I'm sure it's fair everywhere else.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 30, 2024 01:30 PM (GBKbO)

Right!

Posted by: Gell-Mann Amnesia at September 30, 2024 01:41 PM (Aqu9a)

75 The roads and bridges will need to be repaired before they can bring the utility crews in to restore power. This is an Army Corp of Engineers, National Guard from surrounding states, other military to chopper in supplies. Gonna be really bad for a long time - months to a year.

That's a long time to go without electricity.
Posted by: Divide by Zero

======

Like the old days with poor transportation there are gonna be a lot of cousins with nowhere else to go marrying cousins.

... too soon?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 30, 2024 01:41 PM (/lPRQ)

76 Trump is in GA today, checking out the recovery efforts.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 30, 2024 01:42 PM (MpVUb)

77 Vice President Kamala Harris @VP 14h
I was just briefed by @FEMA_Deanne Criswell on the latest developments about the ongoing impacts of Hurricane Helene. We also discussed our Administration's continued actions to support emergency response and recovery.

I also spoke with @NC_Governor Cooper about the ongoing rescue and recovery efforts in North Carolina.

Our Administration will continue to stay in constant contact with state and local officials to ensure communities have the support and resources they need.

Doug and my thoughts are with all those who lost loved ones and those whose homes, businesses, and communities were damaged or destroyed during this disaster.

Greg Price @greg_price11
The paper is blank and the wired headphones aren’t even plugged into her phone.

If you’re going to pretend you’re not AWOL as NC is under water, at least put some effort into it.

DC_Draino @DC_Draino 2h
Omg her headphones aren’t even plugged in

She’s pretending to take disaster relief calls for a photo op

https://tinyurl.com/4f4vpeup
screencaps; don't click through on Kamala's tweet -- it makes her money.

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 30, 2024 01:42 PM (CEzQx)

78 This is the laziest White House in history.

Posted by: wferrin at September 30, 2024 01:42 PM (h4Nx1)

79 Our catastrophes tend to be more of the man-made kind. Nuclear meltdowns. Mayors strafing Main Street. Riots. That kind of thing.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 30, 2024 01:39 PM (VoAdT)

Firebombing row houses from helicopters kinda stands out.

Posted by: TexasDan at September 30, 2024 01:42 PM (z/ifB)

80 Special note - Imma in school today.
Posted by: Pudinhead


Is the teacher hawt?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 30, 2024 01:43 PM (v6JzV)

81 Babylon Bee: North Carolina Agrees To Purchase Several Hunter Biden Paintings In Return For U.S. Aid
Posted by: Mark1971 at September 30, 2024 01:40 PM (NZnln)

Or change their name to Ukraine
Posted by: It's me donna at September 30, 2024 01:41 PM (IyPmt)

good one , Donna!

Posted by: runner at September 30, 2024 01:43 PM (V13WU)

82 That fatality count in NC will go up by a lot. Reports that I'm hearing out of Emergency Ops in NC are that they are not yet releasing numbers but that "unofficially" they know it to be in the hundreds.

Posted by: Bert G at September 30, 2024 01:43 PM (VARTN)

83 ...
Same with the longshoremen strike. Biden could step in and force binding arbitration. But he has said he won't. It'll hurt Kamala. Probably as much as the knife in Biden's back.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 30, 2024 01:28 PM (sDO9P)
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Biden has said he'll step in to get arbitration for the Saudi strikes, though.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 30, 2024 01:43 PM (1bNHn)

84 My youngest is at Furman University in Greenville, SC. He left Greenville with his girlfriend and went to her parents' home in Clemson where I understand they have power and things are okay. Only about 25% of Greenville homes have power and Furman has cancelled classes until Friday.

Posted by: Oglebay at September 30, 2024 01:44 PM (ogTiX)

85 Not to downplay the current catastrophe, but we should take some lessons from this:
There are events that can affect much wider areas. And you won’t see much of any federal response.
So, better be able to rely on yourself.

I’ll go first - EMP.

Posted by: RI Red at September 30, 2024 01:44 PM (SuQXo)

86 Like the old days with poor transportation there are gonna be a lot of cousins with nowhere else to go marrying cousins.

... too soon?
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Ashville is fuill of Hippies these days. Mostly Yankees. Just sayin.

Posted by: Pudinhead at September 30, 2024 01:44 PM (PGK1w)

87 I only saw one guy - an amateur - saying they could get up to 20 inches of rain.

Posted by: PAgirlinNC at September 30, 2024 01:40 PM (XP/kf)

Most pro forecasts are likely model generated and homogenously derived from a single model or set of models. Very likely little local, tribal knowledge of the idiosyncrasies of local weather patterns and variabilities involved.

That's one of the peculiar things about moving to a new location, figuring out those local weather patterns and variabilities and how the forecasts can or can't be trusted.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 30, 2024 01:44 PM (i24o9)

88 Greenville-Spartanburg-Anderson, SC, the 37th largest CSA in the country at 1.6 million people, is about 90% w/o power still.

my mom lives there and somehow wound up in the 10% that has power back on -- can't go anywhere with all the trees down on the roads though

Posted by: brak at September 30, 2024 01:44 PM (25k9m)

89 RNC Research @RNCResearch
"Do you have any words to the victims of the hurricane?"

BIDEN: "We've given everything that we have."

"Are there any more resources the federal government could be giving them?"

BIDEN: "No."

https://tinyurl.com/mr29sn4p
46 seconds; SAME as Ace's
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Because 'they' had preplanned supplies etc. so they don't need any more and not enough brains to say/add something like, 'if they need more, we'll get it to them'.

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 30, 2024 01:44 PM (CEzQx)

90 >>> 47 Besides all the other ways to make potable water, get a couple of cases of canned water.
They can handle a little rougher treatment than these thin assed bottles of water.

https://tinyurl.com/3v66v2p2
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 30, 2024 01:37 PM (sDO9P)

Brownells carries a similar product:
https://shorturl.at/LYpLf

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 30, 2024 01:44 PM (FnneF)

91 Interesting tidbit from all of this I saw on Insty:

Spruce Pine, NC is the SOLE supplier of pure quartz needed to make crucibles for silicon chips. NO WHERE else in the world has the purity of that quartz.

Every road to Spruce Pine was wiped out.

That's not going to be good for big tech.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 30, 2024 01:44 PM (N1DT3)

92 She’s pretending to take disaster relief calls for a photo op

https://tinyurl.com/4f4vpeup
screencaps; don't click through on Kamala's tweet -- it makes her money.
Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 30, 2024 01:42 PM (CEzQx)

...

Also posing in front of the presidential seal.

There should be a stolen valor rule about that kind of crap.

Posted by: TexasDan at September 30, 2024 01:44 PM (z/ifB)

93 Does DEI help Jews? Or are they not considered "oppressed" because you know....

Posted by: ... at September 30, 2024 01:44 PM (LCr8f)

94 80 Special note - Imma in school today.
Posted by: Pudinhead


Is the teacher hawt?
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No. Its an Army class.

Posted by: Pudinhead at September 30, 2024 01:45 PM (PGK1w)

95 Catturd ™ @catturd2 51m
This is what Kamala is doing while the emergency in North Carolina is underway.
Let them eat Doritos.

Real Mac Report @RealMacReport 3h
Kamala Harris: "One of my guilty pleasures, especially when I'm on the road, are my Doritos! Gotta have a napkin nearby, right? Ha ha ha!"

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 30, 2024 01:45 PM (CEzQx)

96 I guess she's actually in front of the "vice" president seal but the media kindly frames it so only the "ce" is visible

Posted by: TexasDan at September 30, 2024 01:45 PM (z/ifB)

97 Right now Joe Biden is a beacon of light and a model for all elected officials to follow right now in these trying times.

I read that as Bacon of light. Must be lunchtime.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 30, 2024 01:45 PM (Aqu9a)

98 71 And DU is all, "We're getting super storms that are so much more powerful than ever ever day!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 30, 2024 01:39 PM (GBKbO)
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I would like to have the DUmmies explain the hurricane which wiped out Galveston in 1900.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 30, 2024 01:41 PM (tT6L1)
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Well, that was during a Republican administration, too.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 30, 2024 01:46 PM (1bNHn)

99 Is the teacher hawt?
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No. Its an Army class.
Posted by: Pudinhead


Air Force had the best-looking chicks of all the services. And they'd usually date Marines.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 30, 2024 01:46 PM (v6JzV)

100 Biden/Harris Katrina.

Corrupt media will have to go into overtime to block the administration’s incompetence.

Posted by: Redenzo at September 30, 2024 01:46 PM (V/pbu)

101 Firebombing row houses from helicopters kinda stands out.

MOVE!!?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 30, 2024 01:46 PM (67maw)

102 60 It has probably been about a hundred years since Asheville last saw a gulley washer like this,

Seriously, something is making those valleys, gullies, and gulches. Don't think it is gravity or wind.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 30, 2024 01:39 PM

--

Western NC got about a foot or more of rain two nights BEFORE Helene hit. This was from a storm system which, if I understand it right, had nothing to do with the hurricane. Some parts of the mountains got over a YARD of rain in a 36-hour period.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at September 30, 2024 01:47 PM (wzAuc)

103 Just thinking tactically, can you imagine the astronomical amount of goodwill the longshoremen union would get if they put off their strike to help deal with the disaster?

"We concede nothing, we will begin our strike on the Nth of Sometember (whatever), but for right now, families are hurting and we need to keep commerce moving for them whatever it costs our brotherhood in the short term".

It's practically a negotiation cheat code.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 30, 2024 01:47 PM (VoAdT)

104 An expert witness did a demo of the information in the database on Dominion voter systems.

The encryption key is in plain text in the database that any moron with just a little bit of computer programming experience can access.

Once you have the encryption key, you can decrypt the tabulator operator's password, which is also in the database. Once you have that, you have free rein to edit votes as a privileged user.

ADDITIONALLY, the expert demonstrates that every tabulator operator has the same password. So there is no way to audit which tabulator did which edits to the vote totals.

http://tiny.cc/5v0ozz

Posted by: bonhomme at September 30, 2024 01:47 PM (Odg76)

105 My brother lives in Puerto Rico and was there when Maria and Irma double-teamed them in the ass. What's happening in NC looks like that. They were without power for MONTHS. Shit was devolving into Thunderdome. Luckily, they live in a gated community and had a portable generator.

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at September 30, 2024 01:47 PM (iFTx/)

106 I read that as Bacon of light. Must be lunchtime.
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 30, 2024 01:45 PM (Aqu9a)

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Light bacon is turkey bacon. Turkey bacon is not okay.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 30, 2024 01:47 PM (DRSnL)

107 Checking in from upstate SC. As others from this area have said, many trees down, many still without power, long lines at gas stations, etc. My relatives and I fared well - my power was restored yesterday evening. No known damage to my house, just a couple of leaky windows and many limbs down. A relative with power took in my mother (who has dementia) while we were out. My yuge trees are still standing. I have a good supply of canned food but I stupidly didn't fill my tank Wed night after returning from a work trip and was worried about running out. But managed to fill up Sat. - perfectly timed thanks to my SIL. Thankful. Lessons learned- keep cash on hand and fill the gas tank when anything is predicted.

Gonna go donate to Samaritans Purse...

Posted by: screaming in digital at September 30, 2024 01:47 PM (KApm5)

108 Air Force had the best-looking chicks of all the services. And they'd usually date Marines.

Like coastal weather, a marine layer?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 30, 2024 01:47 PM (67maw)

109 Also, Gore said that there would be no more glaciers by about this point.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 30, 2024 01:37 PM (GBKbO)

And there are no glaciers (in North Carolina)! We're doomed... doomed, I tell you!

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 30, 2024 01:48 PM (nR2nR)

110 We have a lot of thinking to do in the Great Lakes and Northeast. Call a regional leadership conference and start thinking as a unified region. Form a common policy on northward migration, a consortium so to speak. invite the premiers of Ontario, Manitoba, Quebec and the Canadian Maritime provinces to the table.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison
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They are going to invade Canulistan in anticipation of globull warming.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 30, 2024 01:48 PM (/lPRQ)

111 The screw up that was Katrina was laid at Bush's feet but in fact his administration told people to get out 6 days before the hurricane hit. Mayor Negin and Governor Blanco completely shit the bed in response, basically doing nothing to evacuate. School buses , which could have been used to evacuate , were left in the he danger zone and flooded. But the media and celebrities blamed Bush ( I'm no fan of Bush)

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 30, 2024 01:48 PM (RTfY1)

112
No homeowner insurer will TOUCH that place until proper dams and levees are built.

The TVA has a lot of dams upstream of the area in western NC that took the worst flooding. They held, but got 'topped' - as in water went over the top of them. There were warnings that the dams might break, but they seem to have held up.

It usually takes a lot for me to break out the checkbook and mail off some money, but it was easy this time. Samaritan's Purse gets my check this time, as they're local to the damage.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 30, 2024 01:48 PM (RKVpM)

113 59 PA is probably one of the least disastery states we got.

Even when we do get "disasters", it's typically the tail end of someone else's problem that barely requires notice.

Our catastrophes tend to be more of the man-made kind. Nuclear meltdowns. Mayors strafing Main Street. Riots. That kind of thing.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 30, 2024 01:39 PM (VoAdT)
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True enough. The only real exception I can think of is Hurricane Agnes (I think back in the 70's)...and that was sort of the tail end of what others got. Lots of nasty flooding as I recall.

Posted by: Orson at September 30, 2024 01:49 PM (dIske)

114 President Trump: "No I haven't reached out to him. I think he's sleeping right now, actually."
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Any future Republican contender who does not answer questions in this manner or with more harshness and truth will be steamrolled.

Posted by: ... at September 30, 2024 01:49 PM (LCr8f)

115 There's an unconfirmed report of a temp morgue is Asheville with 400 bodies. There was also a report from a lineman that made it to an isolated area of children asking where their parents are and dead bodies. The death toll will certainly go up. I really feel for some of these small rural towns. They truly will be on their own for sometime.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 30, 2024 01:49 PM (MpVUb)

116 Niece in SC near NC has sent pictures. Like above, they're awful.

Asked her who, what is helping and she said local aid/emergency responders and Samaritan's Purse. SP is headquartered in Blowing Rock, North Carolina and is one of the premiere groups capable of getting disaster relief mobilized quickly. (The group responds to disasters worldwide.)

Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at September 30, 2024 01:49 PM (NFX2v)

117 Gonna go donate to Samaritans Purse...
Posted by: screaming in digital at September 30, 2024 01:47 PM (KApm5)
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Good to know you're okay.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 30, 2024 01:50 PM (tT6L1)

118 94 80 Special note - Imma in school today.
Posted by: Pudinhead


Is the teacher hawt?
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No. Its an Army class.
Posted by: Pudinhead at September 30, 2024 01:45 PM (PGK1w)
________
Wasn't Anna Paulina Luna in the Army?

Posted by: Eeyore at September 30, 2024 01:50 PM (1bNHn)

119 59 PA is probably one of the least disastery states we got.

In Ohio, our governor is Mike DeWine so every day is a disaster.

Posted by: Oglebay at September 30, 2024 01:50 PM (ogTiX)

120 Ya I never once saw a tornado growing up in IN. Retards.
Posted by: BruceWayne

Lived in Indiana my whole life. Been two tornadoes reported within 5 miles of my house. Didn't see either one.
I did see a tornado once. We were on vacation in Gulf Shores Alabama. Driving back to our rental house there was a tornado out in front of us going across the road we were on. It wasn't on the ground, just hanging out in the sky swirling on by.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 30, 2024 01:50 PM (4XwPj)

121 Forget buying his paintings, NC should advocate naming Hunter the Rebuild Czar, with all the powers and 10% cuts it would entail.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at September 30, 2024 01:50 PM (v11it)

122 >>> 106 I read that as Bacon of light. Must be lunchtime.
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 30, 2024 01:45 PM (Aqu9a)

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Light bacon is turkey bacon. Turkey bacon is not okay.
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 30, 2024 01:47 PM (DRSnL)

The Bacon Wench Hath Spoken: Turkey Bacon is Wrong and Bad.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 30, 2024 01:50 PM (FnneF)

123 My daughter is in Charleston, SC right now. She's planning to leave Wednesday to return to mid-TN. Finding an undamaged path home is gonna be a bitch ... I'm sending her state and trucking/shipping sites that have road closure information, but so far the majority of the sites are close to useless - or less. I'll hafta keep looking ...

Posted by: Dr_No at September 30, 2024 01:50 PM (ayRl+)

124 Just thinking tactically, can you imagine the astronomical amount of goodwill the longshoremen union would get if they put off their strike to help deal with the disaster?

—————-

They’re demanding a 77% raise. I don’t think good will is in the equation.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 30, 2024 01:51 PM (u73oe)

125 47 Besides all the other ways to make potable water, get a couple of cases of canned water.
They can handle a little rougher treatment than these thin assed bottles of water.

https://tinyurl.com/3v66v2p2

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 30, 2024 01:37 PM (sDO9P)


If you have time to fill potable water containers from faucets before you need to evacuate or the water supply is contaminated or cut-off, a couple options are:


AquaPod Kit 2.0 - Bathtub Bladder (one of many brands of these)

Stackable 5-gallon water containers. Heavy-wall plastic. Typically blue-colored to distinguish from gasoline storage containers.

Posted by: Gref at September 30, 2024 01:51 PM (aBgBM)

126 You actually can see the bitterness in Biden's verbal responses to Helene, the Israelis, the Houthis and anything else he's asked about. I would be happy as hell about it but Americans are suffering from Biden being a nasty piece of crap

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 30, 2024 01:51 PM (RTfY1)

127 Thanks blake!

Posted by: screaming in digital at September 30, 2024 01:51 PM (KApm5)

128 Mayor Negin and Governor Blanco completely shit the bed in response, basically doing nothing to evacuate.
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It was an op

Posted by: ... at September 30, 2024 01:51 PM (LCr8f)

129 My brother lives in Puerto Rico and was there when Maria and Irma double-teamed them in the ass. What's happening in NC looks like that. They were without power for MONTHS. Shit was devolving into Thunderdome. Luckily, they live in a gated community and had a portable generator.
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at September 30, 2024 01:47 PM (iFTx/)

I was in Indonesia at the time of the tsunami and saw the destruction in Banda Aceh about 3 weeks after it occurred. Came home the next year and ended up doing relief work for Katrina. They looked pretty much the same. (Indonesia was worse, but only because it was a densely populated city)

30 feet of water is 30 feet of water, and doesn't care who you are.

Posted by: TexasDan at September 30, 2024 01:51 PM (z/ifB)

130 84 My youngest is at Furman University in Greenville, SC. He left Greenville with his girlfriend and went to her parents' home in Clemson where I understand they have power and things are okay. Only about 25% of Greenville homes have power and Furman has cancelled classes until Friday.
Posted by: Oglebay at September 30, 2024 01:44 PM

--

We played FOOTBAWWW.

Posted by: Clemson Tiger University at September 30, 2024 01:51 PM (wzAuc)

131 True enough. The only real exception I can think of is Hurricane Agnes (I think back in the 70's)...and that was sort of the tail end of what others got. Lots of nasty flooding as I recall.

yeah agnes was pretty bad. but still our little hunting shack survived and it's literally duct-taped together.

PA has tornadoes now and again

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 30, 2024 01:52 PM (s3qiR)

132 Gonna go donate to Samaritans Purse...

Posted by: screaming in digital at September 30, 2024 01:47 PM

I gave to them and Cajun Navy. CN is up there getting in as close as they can and delivering supplies to cut-off people by drone.

Posted by: Bert G at September 30, 2024 01:52 PM (VARTN)

133 Libs of TikTok
@libsoftiktok
Meanwhile illegals are getting free food and housing. Democrats are always America last. If it were Trump ignoring the tens of thousands of Americans watching their city go underwater, it would be front page news everywhere.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 30, 2024 01:53 PM (NpAcC)

134 Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 30, 2024 01:47 PM (VoAdT)

Eh, goodwill doesn't matter much for a group like a labor union. But leverage does matter. A lot.

A disaster like this is more leverage. They'll use it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 30, 2024 01:53 PM (awTae)

135 Every time people start screaming for DC to do something, the federal government gets bigger and more oppressive.

These states should have been more prepared.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 30, 2024 01:53 PM (g8Ew8)

136 >>> 132 Gonna go donate to Samaritans Purse...

Posted by: screaming in digital at September 30, 2024 01:47 PM

I gave to them and Cajun Navy. CN is up there getting in as close as they can and delivering supplies to cut-off people by drone.
Posted by: Bert G at September 30, 2024 01:52 PM (VARTN)

Drones don't sound all that naval, but definitely 'Murican.

Improvise, adapt, overcome.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 30, 2024 01:53 PM (FnneF)

137 I saw a real live tornado once when I was a kid living in northern TX. It was a small one. My dad was outside having a look. I looked because he was looking, but I really wanted to be inside.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 30, 2024 01:53 PM (Odg76)

138 If it were Trump ignoring the tens of thousands of Americans watching their city go underwater, it would be front page news everywhere.
Posted by: redridinghood at September 30, 2024 01:53 PM (NpAcC)

It's just those pesky Red States

Posted by: It's me donna at September 30, 2024 01:54 PM (IyPmt)

139 There's an unconfirmed report of a temp morgue is Asheville with 400 bodies. There was also a report from a lineman that made it to an isolated area of children asking where their parents are and dead bodies. The death toll will certainly go up. I really feel for some of these small rural towns. They truly will be on their own for sometime.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 30, 2024 01:49 PM (MpVUb)

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That's awful.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 30, 2024 01:54 PM (DRSnL)

140 Willowed, but still withn the topic: In his novel Condominium, which features a devastating hurricane, John D. MacDonald tells us that one cubic yard of water weighs three-quarters of a ton. . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 30, 2024 01:28 PM (J2vNu)
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One thing mentioned in the book: Storm surge hitting at high tide. I didn't realize storm surge was a thing until the mechanics were explained. He got a lot of things right in that novel, if I remember correctly.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 30, 2024

***
He did, and it is one scary read. Do not attempt the second half of the book while a hurricane, or even a tropical storm, is approaching you.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 30, 2024 01:54 PM (J2vNu)

141 You actually can see the bitterness in Biden's verbal responses to Helene, the Israelis, the Houthis and anything else he's asked about. I would be happy as hell about it but Americans are suffering from Biden being a nasty piece of crap
Posted by: Smell the Glove

I really can't fault Biden being bitter. Not after being shoved aside like yesterday's jerk sock.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 30, 2024 01:54 PM (sDO9P)

142 Samaritans Purse is one of the few that helps people in foreign disasters stay in their own countries. It's Franklin Graham's group. They have five locations set up to help. I saw a post about them setting up a temp hospital in one place.

There are posts on X with information about other groups, that are helping. I know that Pinball Prepper and Patera from You Tube have been taking supplies out.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 30, 2024 01:54 PM (MpVUb)

143 WFMY 2,
FEMA providing Starlink satellite systems to western North Carolina
One Starlink will be deployed per county Emergency Operations Center.



Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at September 30, 2024 01:54 PM (NFX2v)

144 It’s just a hunch of MAGAts so whatevs.
- msm

Posted by: Settled Science at September 30, 2024 01:54 PM (Wsr9E)

145 @61

>>And DU is all, "We're getting super storms that are so much more powerful than ever ever day!"

Pfft, you should have seen the hurricane frequency and intensity 10,000 years, makes JK Simmons role in Whiplash look positively laconic.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 30, 2024 01:54 PM (XM2Jy)

146 What was that meme for Obama. I can't remember but he was eating something.

Let me eat my blank

I can't remember but it really happened. Lizzy?

Posted by: ... at September 30, 2024 01:55 PM (LCr8f)

147 These states should have been more prepared.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 30, 2024 01:53 PM

The ham radio net control operating from one of EOCs that I've been listening to went on a short rant this morning about the Dem governor ignoring all the warnings and requests for pre-positioned supplies before it all hit.

Posted by: Bert G at September 30, 2024 01:55 PM (VARTN)

148 We played FOOTBAWWW.
Posted by: Clemson Tiger University at September 30, 2024 01:51 PM (wzAuc)

Apparently there was a time when the quarterback of the Furman University football team was a Clemson student.

Posted by: Oglebay at September 30, 2024 01:55 PM (ogTiX)

149 I saw a real live tornado once when I was a kid living in northern TX. It was a small one. My dad was outside having a look. I looked because he was looking, but I really wanted to be inside.
Posted by: bonhomme



That's a Texan.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 30, 2024 01:56 PM (sDO9P)

150 The guy who runs the lunch catering business where I work is originally from Asheville. He owns his own BBQ/catering biz and he is loading a trailer with all it can hold and is going down there to deliver aid and provide food.

He’s partnering with other orgs that are helping.

Posted by: haffhowershower at September 30, 2024 01:56 PM (KodE5)

151
Let me eat my blank

I can't remember but it really happened. Lizzy?
Posted by: ... at September 30, 2024 01:55 PM (LCr8f)

Waffle I think

Posted by: It's me donna at September 30, 2024 01:56 PM (IyPmt)

152 Canned water. Aka Natural Light.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 30, 2024 01:56 PM (Aqu9a)

153 My youngest is at Furman University in Greenville, SC. He left Greenville with his girlfriend and went to her parents' home in Clemson where I understand they have power and things are okay. Only about 25% of Greenville homes have power and Furman has cancelled classes until Friday.
Posted by: Oglebay at September 30, 2024 01:44 PM (ogTiX)

My youngest is at Virginia Tech. No major issues reported. A boil water order. Child is complaining that their classmates have decided that they now need to drink a case of water per day.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 30, 2024 01:56 PM (nR2nR)

154 Good morning dear morons

Asheville, North Carolina, and many other towns, are completely destroyed right now.

3 million people across the country are without power and 64 are dead.

Where’s Kamala Harris today? A San Francisco fundraiser.

A total and complete betrayal of the American people.
====

Stating the obvious, You'll get more of the same if she wins.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2024 01:57 PM (5p7su)

155 andycanuck on Disqus a day ago

Canada's Weather Network showing total rainfall amounts, listed roughly south to north...

Sumatra, FL - 16 inches
Eufaula, AL - 9 inches
Harrison, GA - 11 inches
Atlanta - 12 inches
Salem, GA - 14 inches
Busick, GA - 31 inches

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 30, 2024 01:57 PM (CEzQx)

156 True enough. The only real exception I can think of is Hurricane Agnes (I think back in the 70's)...and that was sort of the tail end of what others got. Lots of nasty flooding as I recall.
Posted by: Orson at September 30, 2024 01:49 PM (dIske)

Agnes was '72. Took out a lot the Susquehanna River Valley. Then in '75 Eloise, which wasn't quite as bad, but impacted the Susquehanna River Valley. My dad was part of the relief effort for Agnes. Had a cool job with a car phone...in 1972.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at September 30, 2024 01:57 PM (C26rB)

157 I did see a tornado once.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 30, 2024 01:50 PM (4XwPj)

We we're in one once, Lincoln NE, as a wee fry. We shuffled down into the root cellar.

There was not much local damage as I recall. But the smell of the root cellar was unforgettable.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 30, 2024 01:57 PM (i24o9)

158 @141

>>I really can't fault Biden being bitter. Not after being shoved aside like yesterday's jerk sock.

You'd be hard pressed to find a more unsuitable and unworthy person to be President than Joe Biden.

He makes The SCOAMF look Reaganesque by comparison.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 30, 2024 01:57 PM (XM2Jy)

159 Obama ignored the flooding in Tennessee.

This brings up the obvious question. Is NC already in the bag for them??

Posted by: ... at September 30, 2024 01:57 PM (LCr8f)

160 A college roommate lives in Asheville. He just got back from a place he stayed at for a day or two in Maggie Valley. Looks like his job at the Biltmore is gonna become histoire. He's home, but has no 'lectric and no flushability. Life's gonna be a bitch for him. He's gonna go thru what I went thru after Katrina for a couple of weeks - but then, Bush at least cut people checks for $2K each. Oddly enough, moving companies' rates - even for short moves - were $2K (and more). Bidet, on the other hand, says he ain't giving shit to anybody ... well, except his buds ... motherfucker.

Posted by: Dr_No at September 30, 2024 01:57 PM (ayRl+)

161 Like the old days with poor transportation there are gonna be a lot of cousins with nowhere else to go marrying cousins.

... too soon?
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Ashville is fuill of Hippies these days. Mostly Yankees. Just sayin.
Posted by: Pudinhead
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So they think they will never get out, skipped the honeymoon, and moved directly to cannibalism?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 30, 2024 01:57 PM (/lPRQ)

162 >>> 63 59 PA is probably one of the least disastery states we got.

Even when we do get "disasters", it's typically the tail end of someone else's problem that barely requires notice.

Our catastrophes tend to be more of the man-made kind. Nuclear meltdowns. Mayors strafing Main Street. Riots. That kind of thing.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 30, 2024 01:39 PM (VoAdT)

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Is the turnpike considered natural or manmade?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 30, 2024 01:39 PM (GBKbO)

I knew someone who had some involvement with the construction of the PA Turnpike and remember a comment to the effect of 'that was where we made all the mistakes to learn from'.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 30, 2024 01:58 PM (FnneF)

163 Day after Benghazi Ofucker went to Vegas to fundraise.

Posted by: ... at September 30, 2024 01:58 PM (LCr8f)

164 159 Obama ignored the flooding in Tennessee.

This brings up the obvious question. Is NC already in the bag for them??
Posted by: ... at September 30, 2024 01:57 PM (LCr8f)

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Since you're making the comparison...

Did Obama win Tennessee?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 30, 2024 01:58 PM (GBKbO)

165 Another local charity (I used to live in SW Virginia) is "God's Pit Crew"

https://godspitcrew.org

They have gone to MANY hurricane struck areas and are working on Helene relief as well. Lots of locals volunteer and donate.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 30, 2024 01:58 PM (N1DT3)

166 It's weird how all the national reporting makes it sound like it somehow skipped over Georgia and South Carolina. Eastern Georgia got slammed. My dad lives in that are and still has no electricity and as a yesterday a trickle of water running though the pipes. Still lots of people without either in SC, but electricity is finally being restored in a lot of the severely damaged areas now.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at September 30, 2024 01:58 PM (22a4q)

167 There's an unconfirmed report of a temp morgue is Asheville with 400 bodies. ....

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 30, 2024 01:49 PM (MpVUb)

This should be your first clue to start doubting this story.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 30, 2024 01:58 PM (g8Ew8)

168 Waffle I think
Posted by: It's me donna at September 30, 2024 01:56 PM (IyPmt)

Ha! I swear I almost mentioned you along with Lizzy. Thank you!!

Posted by: ... at September 30, 2024 01:58 PM (LCr8f)

169 FEMA providing Starlinks? The Y'all Squad was doing that yesterday. They are bringing in supplies too. Will likely take a month for FEMA to do anything.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 30, 2024 01:58 PM (MpVUb)

170 LET ME EAT MY WAFFLE!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 30, 2024 01:59 PM (s3qiR)

171 > That's a Texan.

He was born in CA. We were stationed in TX. I think he'd enjoy being considered an honorary Texan.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 30, 2024 01:59 PM (Odg76)

172 These floods are very similar to Tropical Storm Juan 1984 causing fast mountain stream and Roanoke River flooding of Salem, Vinton, and Roanoke, Virginia. That storm also caused James River flood damage from Lynchburg to Richmond. Also Hurricane Camille killed many in Virginia in 1969. Remember Tropical Sorm Agnes 1972 flooded Blue Ridge and downstream from Wilkes-Barre south to Virginia. I remember these in my lifetime.

Posted by: CapeFear at September 30, 2024 01:59 PM (neXJb)

173 You'd be hard pressed to find a more unsuitable and unworthy person to be President than Joe Biden.

He makes The SCOAMF look Reaganesque by comparison.
Posted by: Thomas Bender


I didn't say he was good. I just can't fault him for sticking a knife in Kamala's ass.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 30, 2024 01:59 PM (sDO9P)

174 Since you're making the comparison...

Did Obama win Tennessee?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 30, 2024 01:58 PM (GBKbO)

Did Obama need to?

Posted by: ... at September 30, 2024 01:59 PM (LCr8f)

175 I have family in Asheville. Lucky they are on high ground, everyone ok. But they still have cell phone, power, water and food issues.

Interesting to find there was a similar flood, I believe, in 1916. Hurricane coming from the east.

Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at September 30, 2024 02:00 PM (w3u3d)

176 Knoxville News Sentinel, 'Who is in charge of East Tennessee Hurricane Helene flood response?'

WVLT 8 - Road closures surge after historic East Tennessee flooding

Fox Weather: East Tennessee K-9 officer lost in Helene's historic floods found among dead
The Erwin Police Department said Scotty, a loyal and dedicated member of the force, went missing on Friday in the Bumpass Cove area of Unicoi County.

Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at September 30, 2024 02:00 PM (NFX2v)

177 Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 30, 2024 01:59 PM (s3qiR)

Geez, you girls really don't forget anything.

Posted by: ... at September 30, 2024 02:00 PM (LCr8f)

178 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 30, 2024 02:00 PM (Zz0t1)

179 He was born in CA. We were stationed in TX. I think he'd enjoy being considered an honorary Texan.
Posted by: bonhomme


If he stood outside and watched a tornado, he's a Texan. That's kinda what we do. (Don't ask why)

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 30, 2024 02:00 PM (sDO9P)

180 Also posing in front of the presidential seal.

There should be a stolen valor rule about that kind of crap.
Posted by: TexasDan at September 30, 2024 01:44 PM (z/ifB)

It's the VP seal. You can see the 'E' in Vice behind her head. It's clearer in uncropped photos.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 30, 2024 02:00 PM (nR2nR)

181 >>>PAgirlinNC

Do yourself a favor and follow 'The American Storm' on X.

Posted by: one hour sober at September 30, 2024 02:00 PM (Y1sOo)

182 Eeyore, missed my point. My fault. Comment section, difficult to make a point sometimes.

Point was that ridiculous, slanderous, fictional crap invented by the press is nearly universally absorbed/stipulated by *everyone*, including "conservatives". Nothing to do with Bush's place on the spectrum or peoples' take on him overall.

What was Trump's "Charlottesville moment"? There wasn't one. The police chief, mayor, and governor had one - they were responsible for the antifa-esque disruption of a peaceful, permitted protest by people having nothing to do with the obviously fake, instantly-appeared-then-instantly-vanished "white supremacists" headed by a recent Clinton campaign staffer.

Accepting false (usually absurd) premises is a consistent failing of GOP politicos in dealing with the "press". Exactly the same thing, however, happens on a cultural level, nearly universal, and it is likely material to the jaw-dropping political/civic degradation of the society.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 30, 2024 02:01 PM (GcNJ2)

183 We were on the edge of the hurricane’s path but by God’s grace we made it through safely 🌀

Posted by: Agamemnon at September 30, 2024 02:01 PM (HgzG8)

184 Horiffic.

That's terrible. God, please grant guidance and strength to all those effected by this tragic event.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 30, 2024 02:01 PM (Zz0t1)

185 Gonna go donate to Samaritans Purse...
Posted by: screaming in digital

Donate to them? You can pay tribute to the Sarmations all you want, but they'll come raiding your lands from the east whenever it suits them!

Posted by: Confused Roman at September 30, 2024 02:01 PM (JCZqz)

186 It's weird how all the national reporting makes it sound like it somehow skipped over Georgia and South Carolina. Eastern Georgia got slammed. My dad lives in that are and still has no electricity and as a yesterday a trickle of water running though the pipes. Still lots of people without either in SC, but electricity is finally being restored in a lot of the severely damaged areas now.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at September 30, 2024 01:58 PM

I heard from a former coworker in Augusta, GA. He said they had already formed an armed neighborhood security group with rotating shifts due to looting that has already cropped up.

Posted by: Bert G at September 30, 2024 02:01 PM (VARTN)

187 Makes the night spent in the ER with the wife seem trivial.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 30, 2024 02:01 PM (Zz0t1)

188 Fox Weather: East Tennessee K-9 officer lost in Helene's historic floods found among dead
The Erwin Police Department said Scotty, a loyal and dedicated member of the force, went missing on Friday in the Bumpass Cove area of Unicoi County.
Posted by: L

😢

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 30, 2024 02:01 PM (sDO9P)

189 Youngest kid lives in Arden, spitting distance from Asheville. it's where the airport is located. No power, they're living off the solar panels and batteries in their Airstream. He tried to get to Hendersonville on Friday to check on his MIL and couldn't get there, too many blocked roads. MIL made it to their home on Saturday. Her home is uninhabitable.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at September 30, 2024 02:02 PM (2NHgQ)

190 Is the teacher hawt?
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No. Its an Army class.
Posted by: Pudinhead at September 30, 2024 01:45 PM (PGK1w)

I had some teachers in Navy school that were crazy hawt... but that was back when male sailors liked girls.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 30, 2024 02:02 PM (nR2nR)

191 I'm glad you and yours are safe, Agamemnon.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 30, 2024 02:02 PM (Odg76)

192 Geez, you girls really don't forget anything.
Posted by: ... at September 30, 2024 02:00 PM (LCr8f)

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Damn right

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 30, 2024 02:02 PM (DRSnL)

193 There is a poster on X that goes by @4nt1p4tt3rn. Has put out some good basic prep info. There is interest in basic preparedness right now as folks see the value of it.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 30, 2024 02:02 PM (MpVUb)

194 We came out fine, internet back up last night, cell service still garbage. Locals get the roads cleared pretty damn quick around here. We're about 30 minutes from where it starts to get ugly. Massive amounts of "stuff" beginning to flow into Lake Norman. Neighbor measured 11.5 inches of rain in just over 24 hours.

Posted by: jhawk90 at September 30, 2024 02:02 PM (ggOdn)

195 Wasn't Anna Paulina Luna in the Army?
Posted by: Eeyore

Exception that proves the rule.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 30, 2024 02:03 PM (/lPRQ)

196 There is a poster on X that goes by @4nt1p4tt3rn. Has put out some good basic prep info. There is interest in basic preparedness right now as folks see the value of it.
Posted by: Notsothoreau


There's a half dozen facebook groups for prepping.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 30, 2024 02:03 PM (sDO9P)

197 Damn right
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 30, 2024 02:02 PM (DRSnL)

That's the primary reason I'm always nice to you.

Posted by: ... at September 30, 2024 02:04 PM (LCr8f)

198 Are there any reliable, trustworthy charities where we can donate to help the victims?

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 30, 2024 02:04 PM (YIxO9)

199 Eight "migrants" arrested for looting and burglarizing in E TN.

http://tiny.cc/mw0ozz

Posted by: bonhomme at September 30, 2024 02:04 PM (Odg76)

200 If you're not in one of DC's provincial capitals, you can just forget about them. Even if it's a blue area. Flyover country is not their country. Just a bunch of fucking helots, as far as they're concerned.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 30, 2024 02:04 PM (awTae)

201 102 60 It has probably been about a hundred years since Asheville last saw a gulley washer like this,

Seriously, something is making those valleys, gullies, and gulches. Don't think it is gravity or wind.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 30, 2024 01:39 PM

--

Western NC got about a foot or more of rain two nights BEFORE Helene hit. This was from a storm system which, if I understand it right, had nothing to do with the hurricane. Some parts of the mountains got over a YARD of rain in a 36-hour period.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer
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There was a stationary cold/warm front that stagnated over Georgia, Tenn, SC, and NC dumping a lot of rain before the hurricane remnants. There would have been widespread flooding from the stagnant frontal boundary itself but the addition of the hurricane remnants with a lot of rain in a short time span turned major flooding into a disaster.

Posted by: whig at September 30, 2024 02:04 PM (SI97o)

202 ugh best to you neverenoughcaffeine!!!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 30, 2024 02:04 PM (s3qiR)

203 133 Libs of TikTok
@libsoftiktok
Meanwhile illegals are getting free food and housing. Democrats are always America last. If it were Trump ignoring the tens of thousands of Americans watching their city go underwater, it would be front page news everywhere.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 30, 2024 01:53 PM (NpAcC)


As soon as recovery efforts in a blue town have made a fair amount of progress, Biden and or Harris will go there to take credit for the tremendous job FEMA and the military did to make it happen. And to pretend to give a damn and be caring and compassionate. In front of cameras. Optics SOP for the Junta.

Posted by: Gref at September 30, 2024 02:05 PM (aBgBM)

204
Busick, GA - 31 inches

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 30, 2024 01:57 PM

Incredible. Here in my corner of SE PA we have this consistent rainfall of about four inches, every month of the year. So they had nearly eight months of PA rainfall in a short period.

I remember a couple times when we would have 10 inches to a foot of rainfall when the last remnants of a hurricane would stall over us. But it didn't wash the roads and bridges away. Under water yeah, and some bridge damage. NC is screwed for a long long time.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 30, 2024 02:05 PM (RKVpM)

205 I really can't fault Biden being bitter. Not after being shoved aside like yesterday's jerk sock.
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So you're saying that's enough to make anyone crusty??

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 30, 2024 02:05 PM (CEzQx)

206 Another Asheville resident, who owns an art studio that was luckily spared, said she moved to North Carolina after Hurricane Ian in hopes of evading another catastrophic storm.

"I came from Florida after Hurricane Ian. I thought this is the area to be safe and this is not safe," she said. "They said this... could happen, but it was hard to believe," she continued.

DU had an actually moderately insightful post kinda related to this comment:

Last week, if someone asked me, how to escape the weather disasters in Florida, I'd have told them to move to Western NC. In particular, check out Asheville.

When I lived there, I never feared that there could be tropical storms and floods. It seemed impossible.

Joke: There are many people who moved from NY to FL, and eventually moved to NC. We call them half-backs.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 30, 2024 02:05 PM (JCZqz)

207 Wasn't Anna Paulina Luna in the Army?
Posted by: Eeyore

Air Force.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at September 30, 2024 02:05 PM (C26rB)

208 186 I heard from a former coworker in Augusta, GA. He said they had already formed an armed neighborhood security group with rotating shifts due to looting that has already cropped up.
Posted by: Bert G at September 30, 2024 02:01 PM (VARTN)

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Someone's gonna take this as an opportunity to deal with problem neighbors.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 30, 2024 02:05 PM (GBKbO)

209 My brother lives in Puerto Rico and was there when Maria and Irma double-teamed them in the ass. What's happening in NC looks like that. They were without power for MONTHS. Shit was devolving into Thunderdome. Luckily, they live in a gated community and had a portable generator.
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at September 30, 2024 01:47 PM (iFTx/)

I was expecting "they live in a gated community with multiple crew-served weapons and artillery support."

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 30, 2024 02:05 PM (nR2nR)

210 Checking in from Greenwood county SC. Most home are still dark but power is up in the commercial strips now so restaurants and gas stations are working. Allegedly Walmart is open but I was warned by my niece not to go there yet. Madhouse,

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 30, 2024 02:05 PM (U/lgu)

211 >>> 186
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I heard from a former coworker in Augusta, GA. He said they had already formed an armed neighborhood security group with rotating shifts due to looting that has already cropped up.
Posted by: Bert G at September 30, 2024 02:01 PM (VARTN)

Odds the Eff.Bee.EYE investigates them and others for 'hate crimes' next year?

(I wasn't interested in seeing that Civil War movie, but besides the CA + TX thing, thought it was amazingly stupid that the incident that set off the fighting was ... the President abolishing the Eff.Bee.EYE)

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 30, 2024 02:06 PM (FnneF)

212 Someone's gonna take this as an opportunity to deal with problem neighbors.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 30, 2024 02:05 PM (GBKbO)

Awww. Guy must have gotten caught in the flooding. Then tangled up in a rope. Then tangled up in a tree.

How unlucky can a guy get? Poor dear.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 30, 2024 02:06 PM (VoAdT)

213 Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 30, 2024 02:05 PM (U/lgu)

Take it easy. Glad you're ok.

Posted by: ... at September 30, 2024 02:06 PM (LCr8f)

214 Makes the night spent in the ER with the wife seem trivial.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 30, 2024 02:01 PM (Zz0t1)
*******
Not trivial at all.
How is your wife doing?

Posted by: redridinghood at September 30, 2024 02:06 PM (NpAcC)

215 Also, one word: Honda Generators.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 30, 2024 02:07 PM (U/lgu)

216 feds have other priorities:

DOJ sues Alabama, state's top election official for allegedly purging noncitizen voters too close to election

http://tiny.cc/1x0ozz

Posted by: brak at September 30, 2024 02:07 PM (25k9m)

217 @215 One word: that's 2 words.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at September 30, 2024 02:08 PM (22a4q)

218 166 It's weird how all the national reporting makes it sound like it somehow skipped over Georgia and South Carolina.

—-

North, South Carolina, Georgia. Whatever. It’s all hillbilly country to us.
- NYC media

Posted by: Settled Science at September 30, 2024 02:08 PM (Wsr9E)

219 Makes the night spent in the ER with the wife seem trivial.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 30, 2024 02:01 PM (Zz0t1)
*******
Not trivial at all.
How is your wife doing?
Posted by: redridinghood at September 30, 2024 02:06 PM (NpAcC)
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yeah, what she said.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 30, 2024 02:08 PM (tT6L1)

220 Wasn't Anna Paulina Luna in the Army?
Posted by: Eeyore at September 30, 2024 01:50 PM (1bNHn)

Air Force.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 30, 2024 02:08 PM (nR2nR)

221 I really can't fault Biden being bitter. Not after being shoved aside like yesterday's jerk sock.
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So you're saying that's enough to make anyone crusty??
Posted by: andycanuck


Golf clap.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 30, 2024 02:08 PM (sDO9P)

222 Hi friends. Our neighbors have their parents here from NC, they arrived today. It was rough getting out, they have to no power.

Our family in the area (Winston-Salem and Charlotte) are doing okay. The house we were seriously thinking about in Blowing Rock looks to have had damage. It’s so bad. We donated to the Cajun Navy. If anyone knows somewhere else that is useful, let me know.

Posted by: Piper at September 30, 2024 02:08 PM (pZEOD)

223 186 It's weird how all the national reporting makes it sound like it somehow skipped over Georgia and South Carolina. Eastern Georgia got slammed. My dad lives in that are and still has no electricity and as a yesterday a trickle of water running though the pipes. Still lots of people without either in SC, but electricity is finally being restored in a lot of the severely damaged areas now.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at September 30, 2024 01:58 PM

I heard from a former coworker in Augusta, GA. He said they had already formed an armed neighborhood security group with rotating shifts due to looting that has already cropped up.
Posted by: Bert G
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True. Flooding plus tropical storm winds downed a lot of big trees in Upstate SC and Eastern/NE Georgia.

Saw the turn in real time from the projected path at 2 AM on Ryan Hall Y'all's Youtube channel.

Highly recommend the guy for continuing coverage without the smirking, endless pointless ads, etc. that you see on the weather channels.

Followed the guy when there was a massive tornado outbreak a year or two ago that went from Arkansas TN, and KY.

Posted by: whig at September 30, 2024 02:09 PM (SI97o)

224 There was a stationary cold/warm front that stagnated over Georgia, Tenn, SC, and NC dumping a lot of rain before the hurricane remnants. There would have been widespread flooding from the stagnant frontal boundary itself but the addition of the hurricane remnants with a lot of rain in a short time span turned major flooding into a disaster.
Posted by: whig at September 30, 2024 02:04 PM (SI97o)

When the shit hits the fan it rains. Every time.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 30, 2024 02:09 PM (g8Ew8)

225 I saw a real live tornado once when I was a kid living in northern TX. It was a small one. My dad was outside having a look. I looked because he was looking, but I really wanted to be inside.
Posted by: bonhomme

That's a Texan.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices

Used too be called a 'tornado watch' for a reason.
If it was coming toward you it became a 'warning'.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 30, 2024 02:09 PM (/lPRQ)

226 Eight "migrants" arrested for looting and burglarizing in E TN.

http://tiny.cc/mw0ozz
Posted by: bonhomme at September 30, 2024 02:04 PM (Odg76)

Shoot them, Shoot them now! Gibbet their bodies as warning to others. Do It!

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 30, 2024 02:09 PM (Aqu9a)

227 Odds the Eff.Bee.EYE investigates them and others for 'hate crimes' next year?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 30, 2024 02:06 PM

Given where he works, that would be amusing (he's not a fibbie, but that's all I'll say).

Posted by: Bert G at September 30, 2024 02:09 PM (VARTN)

228 The people who worship Gaia piss me off.

Mother Nature is a Bitch, who is always trying to kill us. Weather, Earthquakes, Volcanoes, Wolves, snakes, alligators...

Hell, put a dirty pan in water to soak, and it corrodes stuff off...

The Universe is trying to kill us, protect yourself... hell... kill it first.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 30, 2024 02:09 PM (QAkQ3)

229 Biden tells North Carolina, which has been completely ravaged by Hurricane Helene with entire towns destroyed, that they’re not getting anymore aid.

Kamala is campaigning 2,000 miles away in Vegas.

It’s imperative that we vote these people out of office.

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"Send another $100 billion to Ukraine, stat!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Assassination is The Ultimate Form of Censorship at September 30, 2024 02:10 PM (FBiRB)

230 That's the primary reason I'm always nice to you.

Posted by: ... at September 30, 2024 02:04 PM (LCr8f)

Better watch out, or she'll give you hugs. Horrible, tortuous, delicious hugs.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 30, 2024 02:10 PM (i24o9)

231 My brother lives in Puerto Rico and was there when Maria and Irma double-teamed them in the ass. What's happening in NC looks like that. They were without power for MONTHS. Shit was devolving into Thunderdome. Luckily, they live in a gated community and had a portable generator.
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade


My sister was on Vieque. We found out she was ok via a text message from a helicopter pilot and a satellite photo of the roof of their house where she had painted OK on the roof.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 30, 2024 02:10 PM (sDO9P)

232 @226 Darwinism needs to flourish.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at September 30, 2024 02:10 PM (22a4q)

233 Not trivial at all.
How is your wife doing?
Posted by: redridinghood at September 30, 2024 02:06 PM (NpAcC)


We were out of town this weekend visiting her dad, but she had a rough one. Got home yesterday and she looked up her symptoms on the chemo side effects list and called the oncologist number. They advised she go to the ER, so we spent the wee hours of the morning there.

They released her and said 'clear fluids' and see if it gets better. If not, go back.

I can't express how much I hate every minute of this.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 30, 2024 02:10 PM (Zz0t1)

234 PA is probably one of the least disastery states we got.

Crazy fact - Pennsylvania is the second floodiest state in America, behind Florida.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at September 30, 2024 02:10 PM (DyHJQ)

235 DC_Draino @DC_Draino 2h
Gov. DeSantis says Florida has its state handled and federal government needs to focus on saving lives in North Carolina

Florida sent its own search and rescue deployment to NC, but the federal gov’t has far more assets to save lives

How is 1 state doing more to help NC than the entire federal gov’t?!

This is what happens when nobody knows who is running the country

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 30, 2024 02:10 PM (CEzQx)

236 Absolutely incredible how poorly Democrats are responding to this storm. They don't even pretend to care. Meanwhile, Trump is on the ground in Georgia bringing supplies with him.

Heck of a job, Kammie.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 30, 2024 02:11 PM (LkLld)

237 Live in SWVA. We're ok. Ton of trees down and a lot of flooding. Slightly further to the west of us didn't fair so well.

Posted by: Brando at September 30, 2024 02:11 PM (WHew9)

238 Better watch out, or she'll give you hugs. Horrible, tortuous, delicious hugs.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 30, 2024 02:10 PM (i24o9)

That fiend!!!

Posted by: ... at September 30, 2024 02:11 PM (LCr8f)

239 > Also, one word: Honda Generators.

We bought a generator for emergencies. I couldn't justify triple the price for a Honda. I think we've had ours for three years and haven't needed it yet.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 30, 2024 02:11 PM (Odg76)

240 Someone's gonna take this as an opportunity to deal with problem neighbors.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 30, 2024 02:05 PM (GBKbO)

Awww. Guy must have gotten caught in the flooding. Then tangled up in a rope. Then tangled up in a tree.

How unlucky can a guy get? Poor dear.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 30, 2024 02:06 PM (VoAdT)

LOL. Disasters are a good time to get even.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 30, 2024 02:12 PM (g8Ew8)

241 208 186 I heard from a former coworker in Augusta, GA. He said they had already formed an armed neighborhood security group with rotating shifts due to looting that has already cropped up.
Posted by: Bert G at September 30, 2024 02:01 PM (VARTN)

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Someone's gonna take this as an opportunity to deal with problem neighbors.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Augusta is a miniature version of Atlanta now with a lot of the same social pathologies. A wealthy enclave like Buckhead (in Augusta around the Augusta National Country Club) and surrounded by slums and those areas becoming slums. Less affluent Whites have by and large fled to surrounding counties.

Posted by: whig at September 30, 2024 02:12 PM (SI97o)

242 Odds the Eff.Bee.EYE investigates them and others for 'hate crimes' next year?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 30, 2024 02:06 PM


Were I ever to see an FBI agent at any point, I'd simply say LOLGF.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 30, 2024 02:12 PM (Zz0t1)

243 228 The people who worship Gaia piss me off.

Mother Nature is a Bitch, who is always trying to kill us. Weather, Earthquakes, Volcanoes, Wolves, snakes, alligators...

Hell, put a dirty pan in water to soak, and it corrodes stuff off...

The Universe is trying to kill us, protect yourself... hell... kill it first.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 30, 2024 02:09 PM (QAkQ3)

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"I looked out from my perch upon the mountain, and I saw the ravaging of Mother Nature upon the Earth. Trees torn from their homes in the ground, baby's toys floating in the jetsam, and streaks of dirt that had once been the playgrounds of children long since grown into adulthood. Their fingerprints wiped away by the unfeeling hand of a natural order designed for one thing only: death. Chaos is the only language that She understands."
-Werner Herzog, at a Wendy's

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 30, 2024 02:12 PM (GBKbO)

244 Morons in the affected area: I have a lifetime of chainsawing experience and a truck to bring all my equipment. I can't get a straight answer from any governmental source. If I drive down there, can I make a difference? Don't need a place to stay, I'll live in my truck.

Posted by: Muad'dib at September 30, 2024 02:12 PM (sjdRT)

245
They released her and said 'clear fluids' and see if it gets better. If not, go back.

I can't express how much I hate every minute of this.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 30, 2024 02:10 PM (Zz0t1)
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Okay, thank you for the update. Prayers continue.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 30, 2024 02:12 PM (tT6L1)

246 Every place has something. Hurricanes,
Tornadoes, Blizzards, mudslides, Earthquakes,
Wildfires, volcanoes. No matter where you live Mother Nature has ways of fucking your shit up.

Posted by: Settled Science at September 30, 2024 02:12 PM (Wsr9E)

247 I believe the place in the US considered safest from "all" disasters is located in central to slightly northeast CT

Posted by: ... at September 30, 2024 02:12 PM (LCr8f)

248 Also, one word: Honda Generators.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 30, 2024 02:07 PM

That's actually two words.

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at September 30, 2024 02:12 PM (a3Q+t)

249 How is 1 state doing more to help NC than the entire federal gov’t?!

This is what happens when nobody knows who is running the country
Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 30, 2024 02:10 PM (CEzQx)

Hard to help others when they are busy helping themselves get rich

Posted by: A dude in MI at September 30, 2024 02:13 PM (/6GbT)

250 How is 1 state doing more to help NC than the entire federal gov’t?!

This is what happens when nobody knows who is running the country
Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 30, 2024 02:10 PM (CEzQx)

Simple. Florida has a Leader who is actually competent.

It's not being run by an unelected First Lady (yes, she is running Cabinet meetings).

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 30, 2024 02:13 PM (QAkQ3)

251 249 How is 1 state doing more to help NC than the entire federal gov’t?!

This is what happens when nobody knows who is running the country
Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 30, 2024 02:10 PM (CEzQx)

Hard to help others when they are busy helping themselves get rich
Posted by: A dude in MI at September 30, 2024 02:13 PM (/6GbT)

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Imagine if FEMA were a private organization.

It'd get bailed out and its CEO given a cabinet post.

Wait...I think I've lost the plot...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 30, 2024 02:13 PM (GBKbO)

252 236 Absolutely incredible how poorly Democrats are responding to this storm. They don't even pretend to care. Meanwhile, Trump is on the ground in Georgia bringing supplies with him.

Heck of a job, Kammie.
Posted by: JackStraw
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It is going to hurt the Dem ticket in GA and NC which are both critical states for Kamel Toe to win if she has a hope of being prezzie.

Depending on what Robinson does, it gives an opportunity to restart his campaign for governor given Cooper ain't doing jack shit.

Posted by: whig at September 30, 2024 02:14 PM (SI97o)

253 Biden gets pissy over being called out for sleeping on a beach chair while Americans suffer.

http://tiny.cc/px0ozz

Posted by: bonhomme at September 30, 2024 02:14 PM (Odg76)

254 That's actually two words.
Posted by: Wesley Crusher at September 30, 2024 02:12 PM (a3Q+t)

Well here's three:

Posted by: ... at September 30, 2024 02:14 PM (LCr8f)

255 Crazy fact - Pennsylvania is the second floodiest state in America, behind Florida.


maybe but I think we've tried to reduce/shift out buildings in the the flood plains. it's pretty impossible to build anything in the (very generous) floodplain area here.

we also have ton of trees still which - can be bad when they fall! - but can prevent too much "washing out." as someone said above, we get a lot of rain in SE PA.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 30, 2024 02:14 PM (s3qiR)

256 My only hurricane experience was in 1972 when Agnes hit nyc and all I remember was the street became a fast-moving river. My dad had to sleep overnight at a colleague's house because he couldn't get home. Also, the eerie pause in the storm when the eye passed over.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2024 02:14 PM (5p7su)

257 Crazy fact - Pennsylvania is the second floodiest state in America, behind Florida.

Camille, Agnes, Floyd, all brought disastrous flooding

2015 or thereabouts a small tornado ripped through our county leaving a path of wreckage in its wake.

2021 - Ida brought flooding, a local landmark, Hank's, was flooded and had to be rebuilt

https://tinyurl.com/47zc2vmm

Posted by: kallisto at September 30, 2024 02:14 PM (dCxaZ)

258 Eastern Tennessee and Western NC got it hard for sure. My brother is Eastern NC and had very little damage.

Asheville is bad. Chimney Rock is gone.

And that pic of Biden is infuriating

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 30, 2024 02:14 PM (57n01)

259 252 Depending on what Robinson does, it gives an opportunity to restart his campaign for governor given Cooper ain't doing jack shit.
Posted by: whig at September 30, 2024 02:14 PM (SI97o)

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I've seen pictures of him out and about. I assume they're from the last couple of days, but he was also hospitalized for second degree burns late last week.

No idea what Stein is doing. It might be a lot, but I'm not really paying attention.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 30, 2024 02:14 PM (GBKbO)

260 My understanding is that western Carolina is predominately RED...with the exception of Asheville. I'm sure that's playing a role in response. Biden's no longer making these decisions (if he ever was)...it's fallen to the radical advisors who despise assisting someone with a different philosophy on life. I'd say there is even some spite involved in the lack of reaction and indifference.

Posted by: Orson at September 30, 2024 02:15 PM (dIske)

261 DC_Draino @DC_Draino 2h
Gov. DeSantis says Florida has its state handled and federal government needs to focus on saving lives in North Carolina

Florida sent its own search and rescue deployment to NC, but the federal gov’t has far more assets to save lives

How is 1 state doing more to help NC than the entire federal gov’t?!

This is what happens when nobody knows who is running the country
Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 30, 2024 02:10 PM (CEzQx)

This is the way it should work. Fuck the fed.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 30, 2024 02:15 PM (g8Ew8)

262
Also, one word: Honda Generators.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 30, 2024 02:07 PM

Imagine a scenario where roads and bridges are impassable and delivery of fuel could take months to a year. Repair of electric lines in the same time frame.

I spent a lot on a portable solar panel and battery ( ~ $1,500 ) but it could provide some sort of subsistence living for at least a decade.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 30, 2024 02:15 PM (RKVpM)

263 We were out of town this weekend visiting her dad, but she had a rough one. Got home yesterday and she looked up her symptoms on the chemo side effects list and called the oncologist number. They advised she go to the ER, so we spent the wee hours of the morning there.

They released her and said 'clear fluids' and see if it gets better. If not, go back.

I can't express how much I hate every minute of this.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 30, 2024 02:10 PM (Zz0t1)
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It's be such a roller coaster for the both of you.
Many prayers are being said

Posted by: redridinghood at September 30, 2024 02:15 PM (NpAcC)

264 Also, one word: Honda Generators.

We bought a generator for emergencies. I couldn't justify triple the price for a Honda. I think we've had ours for three years and haven't needed it yet.
Posted by: bonhomme
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The friends who kindly hosted mom and me Friday night have a smallish generator that can keep a fridge going for a few days, said it was about $350 at Sam's IIRC. This is going on my list.

I know I'm woefully unprepared for when the SHTF. Trying to do better. I won't be dumb enough to not fill up the car again.

Posted by: screaming in digital at September 30, 2024 02:15 PM (KApm5)

265
Okay, thank you for the update. Prayers continue.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 30, 2024 02:12 PM (tT6L1)


Thank you. Sincerely. We are indebted to you all.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 30, 2024 02:15 PM (Zz0t1)

266 It is going to hurt the Dem ticket in GA and NC which are both critical states for Kamel Toe to win if she has a hope of being prezzie.

Depending on what Robinson does, it gives an opportunity to restart his campaign for governor given Cooper ain't doing jack shit.


what are the logistics going to be like for voting? I'd imagine some areas will be too focused on rebuilding to worry about voting centers?

I hope not, of course. it seems like a silly thing to have to worry about but we really really do have to try to stop these bolsheviks in case it isn't too late yet

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 30, 2024 02:15 PM (s3qiR)

267 Morons in the affected area: I have a lifetime of chainsawing experience and a truck to bring all my equipment. I can't get a straight answer from any governmental source. If I drive down there, can I make a difference? Don't need a place to stay, I'll live in my truck.

Posted by: Muad'dib at September 30, 2024 02:12 PM

I'd check with an org like Samaritan's Purse, I know they have a way to volunteer on their site: https://www.spvolunteer.org/

Posted by: Bert G at September 30, 2024 02:16 PM (VARTN)

268 253 Biden gets pissy over being called out for sleeping on a beach chair while Americans suffer.

http://tiny.cc/px0ozz
Posted by: bonhomme at September 30, 2024 02:14 PM (Odg76

What a prick. Absolutely a prick of the highest order.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 30, 2024 02:16 PM (57n01)

269 > If I drive down there, can I make a difference?

If you can do it without getting yourself into too much danger, I imagine you'd find plenty of opportunity to help.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 30, 2024 02:16 PM (Odg76)

270 http://tiny.cc/px0ozz

What you are seeing is clear and convincing evidence he hates this country.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2024 02:16 PM (5p7su)

271 Elon Musk@elonmusk
The whole US government has been doing this


Libs of TikTok@libsoftiktok

In case you’re wondering why the response to Hurricane Helene has been a disaster… Fema’s goal 1 is to instill equity as a foundation of emergency management. This is real

Posted by: Braenyard - farmers, just stick a seed in the ground and shut up at September 30, 2024 02:16 PM (KTeKV)

272 >> Eight "migrants" arrested for looting and burglarizing in E TN.


Make Lynching Great Again

Posted by: garrett at September 30, 2024 02:16 PM (lKYo+)

273 I can't express how much I hate every minute of this.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden

Hugs to you both, friend.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at September 30, 2024 02:17 PM (4WBZX)

274 Horrible damage.
Praying for those in areas hit.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 30, 2024 02:17 PM (Hkcdp)

275 And, yes, Joe Bastardi at The American Storm is projecting another event coming to the Gulf this weekend or early next week.

The latest Euro model run appears to agree.

Seems to be saying it should top out at "only" a tropical storm.

Hopeful that is correct.

Posted by: one hour sober at September 30, 2024 02:17 PM (Y1sOo)

276 Doubt this affects the election. People being ignored fall into 2 camps: Republicans being ignored weee going to vote Trump.
anyway. Dems in Asheville don’t care because their hatred for Tru o is greater than their own well being.

Posted by: Settled Science at September 30, 2024 02:17 PM (Wsr9E)

277 Sponge, never trivial and prayer for speedy and immediate healing continue.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2024 02:17 PM (5p7su)

278 When the shit hits the fan it rains. Every time.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons

This was probably a fifty year or century event. Those always cause problems wherever you go. Same with massive blizzards with long cold snaps, earthquakes, etc.

Basically you buy your ticket in this life and take your chances. Some disasters you can avoid with prudent planning, others will sneak up behind you and whack you in the head. Those are the black swan events that Taleb was talking about in his book.

Posted by: whig at September 30, 2024 02:17 PM (SI97o)

279 I helped muck out houses for weeks after Harvey flooded Houston a few years back. Once that water recedes, you've got all this disgusting soaking wet carpet, drywall, and all your household goods that are now trash you have to pull out of your house before you can even really start repairs.

They're going to need help for a good while there.

Posted by: brak at September 30, 2024 02:17 PM (25k9m)

280 Crippling! The strike has been proposed since at least the Baltimore bridge collapse.

>Yahoo Finance! 'Why dockworkers are concerned about automation' (today)

In part, "Dockworkers at ports along the East and Gulf Coasts are expected to strike at midnight which could cause a major disruption for the US supply chain. Mark Szakonyi, S&P Global Market Intelligence's container shipping and logistics expert and executive editor of the Journal of Commerce, joins Seana Smith and Madison Mills on Catalysts to break down the International Longshoremen's Association's (ILA) demands.

Szakonyi tells Yahoo Finance, "The International Longshoremen's Association has been very strong against any kind of automation on the East and Gulf Coasts. You have a degree of what they so-called call semi-automation at certain rail facilities, but they're definitely trying to hold the line."

He explains the fight for protections against automation is "something that we're seeing across any unions working in Western economies in which they're pushing back. To some degree, there are safety gains that can be gained through automation, but unions are also rightly concerned about [the] loss of jobs. ..."

Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at September 30, 2024 02:17 PM (NFX2v)

281 What the Biden administration is doing America right now is what it looks like when politics is above HUMAN LIVES.

They don't care about you. They don't care about states. They don't care about anything but personal wealth and power. Period.

Biden told North Carolina NO. Can you even imagine? He's sending hundreds of millions to Taiwan and BILLIONS to Ukraine, but NONE to US STATES that are being ravaged by storms.

Elections have consequences. Real. Hard. Consequences.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 30, 2024 02:18 PM (Zz0t1)

282 >>> 244 Morons in the affected area: I have a lifetime of chainsawing experience and a truck to bring all my equipment. I can't get a straight answer from any governmental source. If I drive down there, can I make a difference? Don't need a place to stay, I'll live in my truck.
Posted by: Muad'dib at September 30, 2024 02:12 PM (sjdRT)

Please let us know if you do make a road trip; I would like to chip in for your expenses.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 30, 2024 02:18 PM (FnneF)

283 Samaritans Purse was hit hard themselves as their headquarters is located in Boone, NC. But they are still out there assisting. Franklin Graham just met Trump on the tarmac last hour.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 30, 2024 02:18 PM (Hvw8R)

284 In case you’re wondering why the response to Hurricane Helene has been a disaster… Fema’s goal 1 is to instill equity as a foundation of emergency management. This is real
Posted by: Braenyard - farmers, just stick a seed in the ground and shut up at September 30, 2024 02:16 PM (KTeKV)

In other words white people are on their own.

Posted by: Settled Science at September 30, 2024 02:18 PM (Wsr9E)

285 Asheville is in really bad shape. Parts of far eastern TN, too, largely in the French Broad River watershed.

It's going to be years before it's back to what it was, months before things are more or less back to normal.

But it's the Middle South. Like the Midwest, insofar as it exists, it's hated. Remember the Nashville tornadoes? Barely any coverage for a major disaster. Same the Kentucky tornadoes last year. Ditto the Indiana flooding a few years back. These are massive disasters and they barely register because they aren't in the Mid-Atlantic, the Pacific coast or Florida.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 30, 2024 02:19 PM (HnUIn)

286 Whoa, sounds like a bad storm and then some.

Hope all our morons are ok.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at September 30, 2024 02:19 PM (xcxpd)

287 Dems in Asheville don’t care because their hatred for Tru o is greater than their own well being.
Posted by: Settled Science
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It destroys the cheating network that the Dems have on the ground in some of those areas like Asheville. Hard to harvest ballots when you don't have a home, power, or a car. For haters of what the Dems have been doing, they will crawl over broken glass to vote.

Science is that disaster response can and does have an electoral impact. That topic is there if you care to actually read some research about voting patterns.

Posted by: whig at September 30, 2024 02:19 PM (SI97o)

288 Biden gets pissy over being called out for sleeping on a beach chair while Americans suffer.

http://tiny.cc/px0ozz
Posted by: bonhomme at September 30, 2024 02:14 PM (Odg76
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If memory serves, Bush pretty much stopped everything he was doing as Katrina approached and focused on where Katrina was predicted to hit.

Meanwhile, Helene, predicted to be a Cat 4 storm hitting the Gulf Coast, Joe and Kamala carry and pretend nothing is happening.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 30, 2024 02:20 PM (tT6L1)

289 Posted by: Muad'dib at September 30, 2024 02:12 PM

Here's the link to volunteer with Cajun Navy: https://is.gd/O3GTH1

Posted by: Bert G at September 30, 2024 02:20 PM (VARTN)

290 267 Morons in the affected area: I have a lifetime of chainsawing experience and a truck to bring all my equipment. I can't get a straight answer from any governmental source. If I drive down there, can I make a difference? Don't need a place to stay, I'll live in my truck.

Posted by: Muad'dib
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Mike Hammer & Ashville Robert's down there.
Don't think we've heard from either one of them.

Posted by: Braenyard - farmers, just stick a seed in the ground and shut up at September 30, 2024 02:20 PM (KTeKV)

291 Those who place their full faith in government will receive no type of lesson or wakeup call from what they're witnessing at the moment.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 30, 2024 02:20 PM (KbCG3)

292 Mark Robinson @markrobinsonNC 15h
Folks, we just finished dropping off another shipment of material in Buncombe County. Thanks to your donations, their warehouse is no longer empty.

Western North Carolina is in dire need of supplies and assistance. We are doing everything in our power, but we still need your help.

If you can get supplies to the Franklin County Sheriff’s Office, our team can get them out west to those in need. Please drop off food, water, and other necessities at:

285 T Kemp Rd
Louisburg, NC 27549

The destruction I’ve witnessed here today is hard to put into words. Our neighbors desperately need our help. Please continue praying, donating goods, and helping one another out.

May God bless the Great State of North Carolina and her people.

https://tinyurl.com/yrf633jp
1:16 minutes

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 30, 2024 02:20 PM (CEzQx)

293 Thank you all.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 30, 2024 02:20 PM (Zz0t1)

294 Imagine if FEMA were a private organization.

It'd get bailed out and its CEO given a cabinet post.

Wait...I think I've lost the plot...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 30, 2024 02:13 PM (GBKbO)

People are getting sick of prequels, you know.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 30, 2024 02:20 PM (VoAdT)

295 Elections have consequences. Real. Hard. Consequences.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 30, 2024 02:18 PM (Zz0t1)

/Looks back at 2020...

Well....

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 30, 2024 02:20 PM (QAkQ3)

296 You might consider getting a big portable compressor fridge/freezer. Would take less juice than keeping a big fridge going.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 30, 2024 02:20 PM (MpVUb)

297 But it's the Middle South. Like the Midwest, insofar as it exists, it's hated. Remember the Nashville tornadoes? Barely any coverage for a major disaster. Same the Kentucky tornadoes last year. Ditto the Indiana flooding a few years back. These are massive disasters and they barely register because they aren't in the Mid-Atlantic, the Pacific coast or Florida.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

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The Mid South is the Southern Mississippi River basin Joe. The affected area is Southern Appalachia.

Posted by: whig at September 30, 2024 02:21 PM (SI97o)

298 269. Samaritans purse needs volunteers. Call them, don’t just drive there as you can’t get into the worst areas right now.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 30, 2024 02:21 PM (Hvw8R)

299
Morons in the affected area: I have a lifetime of chainsawing experience and a truck to bring all my equipment. I can't get a straight answer from any governmental source. If I drive down there, can I make a difference? Don't need a place to stay, I'll live in my truck.

Posted by: Muad'dib at September 30, 2024 02:12 PM

'Samaritan's Purse' is located in NC and is looking for volunteers. You might contact them.

Samaritan’s Purse
PO Box 3000
Boone, NC 28607
828.262.1980

As Ronald Reagan said, "No one can help everyone, but everyone can help someone."

/ not sure if he thought that up himself or just highlighted it

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 30, 2024 02:21 PM (RKVpM)

300 I hope someone adds up the money given to Ukraine and what is given to the south because of these storms. Or to the families overrun by immigrants.

Just two numbers in an ad.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 30, 2024 02:21 PM (57n01)

301 Absolutely incredible how poorly Democrats are responding to this storm. They don't even pretend to care. Meanwhile, Trump is on the ground in Georgia bringing supplies with him.

Heck of a job, Kammie.
Posted by: JackStraw
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It is going to hurt the Dem ticket in GA and NC which are both critical states for Kamel Toe to win if she has a hope of being prezzie.

Depending on what Robinson does, it gives an opportunity to restart his campaign for governor given Cooper ain't doing jack shit.
Posted by: whig at September 30, 2024 02:14 PM (SI97o)
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Depends upon the political makeup of the affected areas. If the destroyed areas vote mostly GOP, then Kumswala and Cooper and their handlers will see that as a feature, not a bug. Leftist urban scumbags not only won't care that these areas are destroyed, they will blame them for disobeying them on "climate change."

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at September 30, 2024 02:21 PM (iFTx/)

302 Don't need a place to stay, I'll live in my truck.
Posted by: Muad'dib at September 30, 2024 02:12 PM (sjdRT)

Please let us know if you do make a road trip; I would like to chip in for your expenses.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
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Me too. Upstate SC is definitely not the area of greatest need, but I can offer you a place to crash should you need it.

Posted by: screaming in digital at September 30, 2024 02:21 PM (KApm5)

303 Biden gets pissy over being called out for sleeping on a beach chair while Americans suffer.

http://tiny.cc/px0ozz
Posted by: bonhomme

He was commanding the shit in his pants.

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 30, 2024 02:22 PM (CIS44)

304
This storm has a Hurricane Camille look to it insofar as the extensive damage that it did in the Appalachian Mountains' region.

Nelson County Virginia alone lost 124 people killed.

https://nelsonhistorical.org/cpage.php?pt=21

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 30, 2024 02:22 PM (xG4kz)

305
If memory serves, Bush pretty much stopped everything he was doing as Katrina approached and focused on where Katrina was predicted to hit.

Meanwhile, Helene, predicted to be a Cat 4 storm hitting the Gulf Coast, Joe and Kamala carry and pretend nothing is happening.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 30, 2024 02:20 PM (tT6L1)


No no no. He called his insiders and had them setting up the bombs to blow the levees because he hates black people.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 30, 2024 02:22 PM (Zz0t1)

306 The Mid South is the Southern Mississippi River basin Joe. The affected area is Southern Appalachia.
Posted by: whig at September 30, 2024 02:21 PM (SI97o)
++++
Ehhh, "Middle South" usually applies, as far as I've ever heard it used. The Deep South is South Carolina and down. TN and NC are the Middle South, KY, WV, MD are the Upper South. At least colloquially. I've always heard it as a political/social boundary, not a geological one.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 30, 2024 02:22 PM (HnUIn)

307 If he stood outside and watched a tornado, he's a Texan. That's kinda what we do. (Don't ask why)
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 30, 2024 02:00 PM (sDO9P)

Tornados will turn on a dime. If you're watching it you have a better idea of if it's a threat.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 30, 2024 02:22 PM (nR2nR)

308 Honestly I am surprised Kamala was in SF. I have seen very, very few window signs posted, and one of them was a hand-drawing of a cat. Her support is paper thin.

Why?

Because we remember. We know. We have seen.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2024 02:22 PM (5p7su)

309 >>>These are massive disasters and they barely register because they aren't in the Mid-Atlantic, the Pacific coast or Florida.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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Mississippi waves from Katrina, ~youwho

Posted by: Braenyard - farmers, just stick a seed in the ground and shut up at September 30, 2024 02:22 PM (KTeKV)

310 But here's a nice apartment you and your family can rent. It's only 15 minutes from "everything."
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 30, 2024 01:31 PM (Q4IgG)

A luxurious, spacious 700 sq ft one bedroom one bath unit, Blackrock owned and managed, for a reasonable $2,199 a month.

Posted by: All you can eat bugz at September 30, 2024 02:22 PM (OClqp)

311 >>You might consider getting a big portable compressor fridge/freezer. Would take less juice than keeping a big fridge going.


Also, NO empty space. If you have voids, even a closed empty box will aid in keeping your food at safe storage temps.
Partially filled water bottles work even better.

Posted by: garrett at September 30, 2024 02:23 PM (lKYo+)

312 308 Honestly I am surprised Kamala was in SF. I have seen very, very few window signs posted, and one of them was a hand-drawing of a cat. Her support is paper thin.

Why?

Because we remember. We know. We have seen.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2024 02:22 PM (5p7su)

=======

And...SF will still vote 85% for her!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 30, 2024 02:23 PM (GBKbO)

313 Is Asheville one of those NC locations that have been infested by blue locusts?

Posted by: kallisto at September 30, 2024 02:23 PM (dCxaZ)

314
This is your "bye-bye" event, Red Kammie.

Take the stammering stumblebum and your organ grinder monkey with you.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 30, 2024 02:23 PM (xG4kz)

315 SiD, keep a weather eye out if you're anywhere near the affected areas, because I assume the gremlins will move out from those areas, looking for other prey.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 30, 2024 02:23 PM (tT6L1)

316 A lot of the hard hit area is full of second homes ... lots of lake homes. Still sucks, and certainly a lot of single family homes also destroyed. Anybody near a stream got flooded or washed away, it seems.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 30, 2024 02:23 PM (Cus5s)

317 286 Whoa, sounds like a bad storm and then some.

Hope all our morons are ok.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edward
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MAE, it was a rare combination of two storm systems. A stagnant cold/warm front over the area that had dumped rain for about 2-3 days prior to the hurricane remnants. Either would have caused major flooding issues--both created a 50-100 year catastrophe. Has happened before in that region roughly 1900 or so from a hurricane remnant that hit Charleston at the time.

Posted by: whig at September 30, 2024 02:23 PM (SI97o)

318 I have family in rural Northern California. Their area was devastated by fires. Entire towns burned to the ground. Nobody gave a shit. Not the media, not the state govt and sure as fuck not the federal govt.

Unless it’s a large city, and preferably a coastal city, you’re basically on your own when it comes to surviving a natural disaster.

Posted by: Settled Science at September 30, 2024 02:23 PM (Wsr9E)

319 O/T I really want to go stargaze at the southern skies but there are way too many animal noises coming from out there and this city boy don't play like that.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2024 02:24 PM (5p7su)

320 WKRG 5m Northwest Florida
Elks Lodges in Northwest Florida team up with United Cajun Navy to provide disaster relief supplies
by: Alexa Daly

(In part) They will be collecting goods and donations throughout the weekend. Those who wish to donate can drop off supplies at the Pensacola, Pensacola Beach, Navarre, and Fort Walton Beach Elks Lodges.

The United Cajun Navy and its volunteers will deliver supplies to the impacted areas on Monday.

Those unable to donate in person can visit the Amazon wish list to purchase supplies that will get sent right to the United Cajun Navy’s distribution warehouse.

Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at September 30, 2024 02:24 PM (NFX2v)

321 Kamala is in SF to kiss the Pelosi ring and beg for money and help because her internals are for shit.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 30, 2024 02:24 PM (57n01)

322 Is Asheville one of those NC locations that have been infested by blue locusts?
Posted by: kallisto

It's east coast SF.

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 30, 2024 02:24 PM (CIS44)

323 Is Asheville one of those NC locations that have been infested by blue locusts?
Posted by: kallisto at September 30, 2024 02:23 PM (dCxaZ)
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Yes. Midway along the curve. Ahead of Nashville, TN but well behind fully-colonized cities like Denver.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 30, 2024 02:25 PM (HnUIn)

324 321 Kamala is in SF to kiss the Pelosi ring and beg for money and help because her internals are for shit.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 30, 2024 02:24 PM (57n01)

========

The D Senate candidate in MI said this weekend in a leaked call that her internals showed Kamala down in MI.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 30, 2024 02:25 PM (GBKbO)

325 We were out of town this weekend visiting her dad, but she had a rough one. Got home yesterday and she looked up her symptoms on the chemo side effects list and called the oncologist number. They advised she go to the ER, so we spent the wee hours of the morning there.

They released her and said 'clear fluids' and see if it gets better. If not, go back.

I can't express how much I hate every minute of this.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 30, 2024 02:10 PM (Zz0t1)

So sorry to hear this, Sponge. I can sympathize watching my daughter. I can imagine you feel quite hopeless watching your wife go through this. I hope the fact you have the whole Horde pulling for your wife and you helps strengthen both of you. As always, if there is anything we can do to help - ask. Contact info is in my nic. You both will be in my prayers.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 30, 2024 02:25 PM (N39Ws)

326 313 Is Asheville one of those NC locations that have been infested by blue locusts?
Posted by: kallisto
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Yes, in the last twenty years of so. Turned from a nice Southern rural town into a leftist mecca complete with angry homeless druggies. UNC Asheville there is also one of the reasons.

Posted by: whig at September 30, 2024 02:25 PM (SI97o)

327
He was commanding the shit in his pants

Look, fat, be thankful it's just in the pants!
My limo seats are stained beyond repair!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 30, 2024 02:25 PM (67maw)

328 In case you’re wondering why the response to Hurricane Helene has been a disaster… Fema’s goal 1 is to instill equity as a foundation of emergency management. This is real
Posted by: Braenyard - farmers, just stick a seed in the ground and shut up at September 30, 2024 02:16 PM (KTeKV)
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There was a fun photo of the mayor and all her city council besties floating around X last night along with her plan for the city, which was much of this kind of nonsense along with a 50% reduction in police.

Posted by: jhawk90 at September 30, 2024 02:25 PM (ggOdn)

329 323 Is Asheville one of those NC locations that have been infested by blue locusts?
Posted by: kallisto at September 30, 2024 02:23 PM (dCxaZ)
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Yes. Midway along the curve. Ahead of Nashville, TN but well behind fully-colonized cities like Denver.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 30, 2024 02:25 PM (HnUIn)

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It's because the Vanderbilts didn't keep the place under the yoke of private tyranny for long enough!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 30, 2024 02:25 PM (GBKbO)

330 Was Senile Joe on the phone for two hours?

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at September 30, 2024 02:25 PM (7fbyv)

331 321 Kamala is in SF to kiss the Pelosi ring and beg for money and help because her internals are for shit.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 30, 2024 02:24 PM (57n01)

And I thought it was because Willie missed her.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 30, 2024 02:26 PM (N39Ws)

332 Heck of a job Joey

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 30, 2024 02:26 PM (HUco/)

333 And...SF will still vote 85% for her!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 30, 2024 02:23 PM (GBKbO)
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I think you are probably right, but anything less than that would not be surprising either. If she does get less than 85% in SF she is done.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2024 02:26 PM (5p7su)

334 Asheville is in really bad shape. Parts of far eastern TN, too, largely in the French Broad River watershed.

It's going to be years before it's back to what it was, months before things are more or less back to normal.

But it's the Middle South. Like the Midwest, insofar as it exists, it's hated. Remember the Nashville tornadoes? Barely any coverage for a major disaster. Same the Kentucky tornadoes last year. Ditto the Indiana flooding a few years back. These are massive disasters and they barely register because they aren't in the Mid-Atlantic, the Pacific coast or Florida.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 30, 2024 02:19 PM (HnUIn)

Plus, good communities recover and get back to normal much much quicker than some people guess. We'll see how good a community Asheville is when we see how long it takes them to clean up.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 30, 2024 02:26 PM (g8Ew8)

335 There was a fun photo of the mayor and all her city council besties floating around X last night along with her plan for the city, which was much of this kind of nonsense along with a 50% reduction in police.
Posted by: jhawk90 at September 30, 2024 02:25 PM (ggOdn)
in Asheville

Posted by: jhawk90 at September 30, 2024 02:26 PM (ggOdn)

336 Hi;
I live in Charlotte ,NC.
Some trees down around the neighborhood,
But just north is Mount Holly,the whole riverside
is under water. 20 Miles north is Concord,they are
staging relief helicopter assistance out of the Concord regional airport.samaritans Purse is just up in Boone ,and they are running semi's of as much stuf f as they can also setting up Field Hospitals.

Posted by: Jonjo at September 30, 2024 02:26 PM (2R3+J)

337 321 Kamala is in SF to kiss the Pelosi ring and beg for money and help because her internals are for shit.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
======
At a certain point, ad money is simply flushing it down the toilet if you have a shitty product to sell.

Kamel Toe and Tampon Tim are one of the most feckless tickets put up by a major party since McGovern.

Posted by: whig at September 30, 2024 02:27 PM (SI97o)

338 326 313 Is Asheville one of those NC locations that have been infested by blue locusts?
Posted by: kallisto
========
Yes, in the last twenty years of so. Turned from a nice Southern rural town into a leftist mecca complete with angry homeless druggies. UNC Asheville there is also one of the reasons.
Posted by: whig at September 30, 2024 02:25 PM (SI97o)

I lived in Hickory - about 1hr east of Asheville - in the 90s. The vermin infestation began as we were pulling out of town. Too bad. Beautiful area ruined by those locusts.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 30, 2024 02:27 PM (N39Ws)

339 333 I think you are probably right, but anything less than that would not be surprising either. If she does get less than 85% in SF she is done.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2024 02:26 PM (5p7su)

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Eh. It's partisanship.

It's dumb, but it's common.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at September 30, 2024 02:27 PM (GBKbO)

340 >>O/T I really want to go stargaze at the southern skies but there are way too many animal noises coming from out there and this city boy don't play like that.


Nothing that lives down south is of much concern, really. Not unless you are the size of an 8 year old.

Posted by: garrett at September 30, 2024 02:27 PM (lKYo+)

341 There are some pretty blue (expensive) areas around Boone, NC that got hit pretty hard. Blowing Rock comes to mind. Steep mountains with big homes. Lots of Democrats. You'd think there'd be some compassion from their political brethren in the capitol city.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 30, 2024 02:27 PM (Q4IgG)

342 >>Mississippi waves from Katrina, ~youwho

I was at a meeting in Biloxi less than a week before Katrina. The photos I saw after the storm were incredible.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 30, 2024 02:27 PM (LkLld)

343 I can't express how much I hate every minute of this.
Posted by: Sponge

More prayers for the both of you.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 30, 2024 02:28 PM (F+VNN)

344 Biden gets pissy over being called out for sleeping on a beach chair while Americans suffer.

http://tiny.cc/px0ozz
Posted by: bonhomme


He's reminding you that prezznit'n is easy and can be done from anywhere, silly.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 30, 2024 02:28 PM (Zz0t1)

345 Anyone volunteering down there should wear a MAGA hat - especially in the blue areas. Let them know who's helping them out!

Posted by: 496 at September 30, 2024 02:28 PM (h9K9B)

346 I am so sorry, Sponge. I wish I was closer so I could drop off some food. I would even leave the kale out!

Posted by: Piper at September 30, 2024 02:28 PM (pZEOD)

347 Tornados will turn on a dime. If you're watching it you have a better idea of if it's a threat.


Jamie Gertz in Twister. Mmmmm.....

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at September 30, 2024 02:28 PM (ufFY8)

348
A woman in my high school class and her husband live in the vicinity of Asheville. She posted pictures and videos on FB of the rains while they were in progress as well as their aftermath. The damage is pretty near overwhelming.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 30, 2024 02:28 PM (xG4kz)

349 I have not seen one homeless, angry druggie anywhere in Sydney. Zero. Not asked for a handout not once. No one camping or loitering. No sh*t on the street.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2024 02:29 PM (5p7su)

350 341 There are some pretty blue (expensive) areas around Boone, NC that got hit pretty hard. Blowing Rock comes to mind. Steep mountains with big homes. Lots of Democrats. You'd think there'd be some compassion from their political brethren in the capitol city.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 30, 2024 02:27 PM (Q4IgG)
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Boone is fancy. Lots of leisure industry there (skiing, camping, proximity to the Blue Ridge Parkway, etc.) and it's extremely beautiful. Super pretty places tend to be expensive anyway, plus Boone and surrounds has lots of other things going for it.

If it Boone and surrounding areas got hit badly, too (I'll take your word for it - I didn't look at it specifically), it's probably going to meaningfully run up the score on economic damage.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 30, 2024 02:29 PM (HnUIn)

351 SF is easily 85% Dem and most likely in the 90s.As are other cities.

That doesn’t exist on the other side. There may be counties with 70,75% Republican votes. Maybe even the odd 80%. But nothing as monolithic as an urban core voting bloc.

Posted by: Settled Science at September 30, 2024 02:29 PM (Wsr9E)

352 As always, if there is anything we can do to help - ask. Contact info is in my nic. You both will be in my prayers.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 30, 2024 02:25 PM (N39Ws)


It is appreciated.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 30, 2024 02:30 PM (Zz0t1)

353
Associated Press: Hurricane Helene Charismatic, Shrewd

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at September 30, 2024 02:30 PM (dtlw7)

354 I have not seen one homeless, angry druggie anywhere in Sydney. Zero. Not asked for a handout not once. No one camping or loitering. No sh*t on the street.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2024 02:29 PM (5p7su)
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Street bum wildlife isn't too much for you but wildlife wildlife is?

Odd......

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 30, 2024 02:30 PM (tT6L1)

355 I can't express how much I hate every minute of this.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden
----------------------------

It's not you it's your wife.

Posted by: Braenyard - farmers, just stick a seed in the ground and shut up at September 30, 2024 02:30 PM (KTeKV)

356 Boone is fancy. Lots of leisure industry there (skiing, camping, proximity to the Blue Ridge Parkway, etc.) and it's extremely beautiful. Super pretty places tend to be expensive anyway, plus Boone and surrounds has lots of other things going for it.

If it Boone and surrounding areas got hit badly, too (I'll take your word for it - I didn't look at it specifically), it's probably going to meaningfully run up the score on economic damage.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at

Isn't App St in Boone?

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 30, 2024 02:30 PM (CIS44)

357
More prayers for the both of you.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 30, 2024 02:28 PM (F+VNN)


Thank you.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 30, 2024 02:30 PM (Zz0t1)

358 I was at a meeting in Biloxi less than a week before Katrina. The photos I saw after the storm were incredible.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 30, 2024 02:27 PM (LkLld)
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I was in N.O. six months after and there was still debris piled everywhere.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2024 02:30 PM (5p7su)

359 The last I saw of Mike Hammer he said they were getting a lot of rain. That was before they got hit with the worst of it.

Posted by: fd at September 30, 2024 02:30 PM (vFG9F)

360 I am so sorry, Sponge. I wish I was closer so I could drop off some food. I would even leave the kale out!
Posted by: Piper at September 30, 2024 02:28 PM (pZEOD)


The thought counts. Thank you.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 30, 2024 02:30 PM (Zz0t1)

361
Kamala showed up at the border wearing a $60,000 necklace.

What will she wear to North Carolina? Some $35,000 earrings?

#ForThePeople #OneOfUs

Posted by: Frank Barone at September 30, 2024 02:31 PM (+oR7L)

362 >>Wendy Patterson
@wendyp4545
Breaking News: All of the shelters in Asheville are at capacity.

>>Fox News Reporters on the ground in Asheville say that FEMA isn't on the ground helping the shelters and several have run out of water.

>>The Fox Reporter is trying to find answers on why FEMA isn't there to assist.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 30, 2024 02:31 PM (LkLld)

363 340 >>O/T I really want to go stargaze at the southern skies but there are way too many animal noises coming from out there and this city boy don't play like that.


Nothing that lives down south is of much concern, really. Not unless you are the size of an 8 year old.
Posted by: garrett at September
Or taste yummy to an alligator. They sneak right up on you on tip toes then CHOMP! Gone. Never to be heard from again.


😂

Posted by: Piper at September 30, 2024 02:31 PM (pZEOD)

364 >>> 361
Kamala showed up at the border wearing a $60,000 necklace.

What will she wear to North Carolina? Some $35,000 earrings?

#ForThePeople #OneOfUs
Posted by: Frank Barone at September 30, 2024 02:31 PM (+oR7L)

So, I grew up in a middle-class neighborhood, and I worked at a McDonald's...

Posted by: Kamala Coconut Harris at September 30, 2024 02:32 PM (FnneF)

365 > Isn't App St in Boone?
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Yup

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 30, 2024 02:32 PM (Q4IgG)

366 Breaking911 @Breaking911 11m
TRUMP: “I just spoke to Elon. We want to get Starlink hooked up because they have no communication whatsoever & Elon will always come through.”

https://tinyurl.com/46vp7fpj
1:15 minutes

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 30, 2024 02:32 PM (CEzQx)

367 >>Or taste yummy to an alligator. They sneak right up on you on tip toes then CHOMP! Gone. Never to be heard from again.


I would not endorse star gazing while standing in the swamp, no.

Posted by: garrett at September 30, 2024 02:33 PM (lKYo+)

368 You might consider getting a big portable compressor fridge/freezer. Would take less juice than keeping a big fridge going.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 30, 2024 02:20 PM (MpVUb)

Even a small generator will be able to run one fridge.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 30, 2024 02:33 PM (JcBxc)

369 I am so sorry, Sponge. I wish I was closer so I could drop off some food. I would even leave the kale out!
Posted by: Piper at September 30, 2024 02:28 PM (pZEOD)

Kale is not food. At best, animal fodder.

Posted by: You hipsters with kale smoothies and quinoa shakes at September 30, 2024 02:33 PM (OClqp)

370 366 Breaking911 @Breaking911 11m
TRUMP: “I just spoke to Elon. We want to get Starlink hooked up because they have no communication whatsoever & Elon will always come through.”

https://tinyurl.com/46vp7fpj
1:15 minutes
Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 30, 2024 02:32 PM (CEzQx


Well someone is acting Presidential

Posted by: It's me donna at September 30, 2024 02:33 PM (IyPmt)

371 I did Red Cross disaster recovery after hurricane Mathew in NC back in 2016. It wasn't nearly as big as Helene. I can't imagine how much worse the damage is now.

Posted by: Beartooth at September 30, 2024 02:33 PM (WuJwx)

372 "Lots of Democrats. You'd think there'd be some compassion from their political brethren in the capitol city."

=============

The people running FEMA see white people and think evil no matter who they vote for. Additionally, Democrats know they can treat their base like gum on a shoe and the base will stay loyal.

Posted by: Jay in PA at September 30, 2024 02:33 PM (i7Q7S)

373 Fox News Reporters on the ground in Asheville say that FEMA isn't on the ground helping the shelters and several have run out of water.

>>The Fox Reporter is trying to find answers on why FEMA isn't there to assist.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 30, 2024 02:31 PM (LkLld)
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Fox reporter should be shown a pic of Joe and Jill on the beach. Of course, that would end that question ever being asked again.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 30, 2024 02:33 PM (tT6L1)

374
Nothing that lives down south is of much concern, really. Not unless you are the size of an 8 year old.
Posted by: garrett at September


Because bobcats or coyotes never punch above their weight class..........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 30, 2024 02:33 PM (Zz0t1)

375 Kale is not food. At best, animal fodder.

Posted by: You hipsters with kale smoothies and quinoa shakes at September 30, 2024 02:33 PM (OClqp)

Watch out for hotties bearing hummus, too.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 30, 2024 02:34 PM (i24o9)

376 Thousands are missing/unaccounted for. Certainly not the same as dead but some or many will be. This likely dwarfs Katrina many times over but will not get the lavish funding Ukraine and its kleptocrats do. It is a fitting coda for Biden and Kamala Harris but terrible for those in the region.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at September 30, 2024 02:34 PM (KSNKu)

377 Nothing that lives down south is of much concern, really. Not unless you are the size of an 8 year old.
Posted by: garrett at September 30, 2024 02:27 PM (lKYo+)
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Southern hemisphere. Maybe I spent too much time at the zoo but there are a lot of exotic wildlife and there is a cacaphony of animal noises in the night. No thanks.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2024 02:34 PM (5p7su)

378
I have family in Eastern Tennessee town of Elizabethton. Said the waters/flooding there was crazy. Lots of power outages. Quite a lot of damage.

Posted by: Frank Barone at September 30, 2024 02:34 PM (+oR7L)

379 Fort Bragg is *RIGHT THERE* and full of able-bodied young people, brainpower, air assets and heavy equipment.

Posted by: the other coyote at September 30, 2024 02:35 PM (oGPcA)

380 Gators are quiet, stealthy, and explosively fast. Not to be fucked with.

Posted by: They'll snap up your teacup chihuahua like THAT at September 30, 2024 02:35 PM (OClqp)

381 >>Because bobcats or coyotes never punch above their weight class...


They don't. You have nothing to fear from either unless you are a toddler.

Posted by: garrett at September 30, 2024 02:35 PM (lKYo+)

382 >>I was in N.O. six months after and there was still debris piled everywhere.

I forget which hotel we stayed at, one of the casino hotels on the water, and there was a barge tied up outside the hotel that had part of the casino in it.

Katrina picked up the barge and deposited it on the other side of the hotel in the parking lot. That's a lot of wind and water.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 30, 2024 02:35 PM (LkLld)

383 Elon is setting himself up for mischief.

The problem with being the guy who can always be counted on is that everyone starts to count on you.

"Hey, we got entire counties without internet from this hurricane...." I got you.

"Hey, Twitter is a cesspool...." No problem, i'm on it.

"Hey, you got a spare spaceship to go pick up my buddies in low earth orbit?" Actually, yeah, I do.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 30, 2024 02:35 PM (VoAdT)

384 >>Southern hemisphere.


Oh, ok. I figured AZ since you are a Californicator.

Posted by: garrett at September 30, 2024 02:36 PM (lKYo+)

385 Anybody know how's Saluda, NC?

Posted by: Eromero at September 30, 2024 02:36 PM (LHPAg)

386 Nothing that lives down south is of much concern, really. Not unless you are the size of an 8 year old.
Posted by: garrett at September 30, 2024 02:27 PM

Unless you're skinny-dipping, and don't want to be the size of an 8 year old.

Posted by: Snapping Turtle at September 30, 2024 02:36 PM (a3Q+t)

387 Ehhh, "Middle South" usually applies, as far as I've ever heard it used. The Deep South is South Carolina and down. TN and NC are the Middle South, KY, WV, MD are the Upper South. At least colloquially. I've always heard it as a political/social boundary, not a geological one.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

No, Southerners nor political scientists/sociologists do not use those terms that way.

Way back, NC and VA (with WV) were part of the Middle Colonies along with MD and PA. Currently, you have the Deep South or Lower South (Yankee talk) which were the original states seceding during the Civil War, and then you have the Upper South which were the other slave states including the border states that did not secede. Some other geographic features muddle the clear definitions such as Appalachia was traditionally an anti slave region due to politics dominated by the plantation owners in many states and also the refuge of poor whites that could not make a living in slave heavy areas competing with slave wages.

The East West division of the South was the Mississippi River which is why the Mid South is the term for those states around that area centered on Memphis TN.

Posted by: whig at September 30, 2024 02:36 PM (SI97o)

388 Southern hemisphere. Maybe I spent too much time at the zoo but there are a lot of exotic wildlife and there is a cacaphony of animal noises in the night. No thanks.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2024 02:34 PM (5p7su)
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It's the one you DON'T hear that's gonna get ya!

Sleep tight!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 30, 2024 02:36 PM (7fElN)

389 Equity can mean some people get help while others don't. See? Equity!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2024 02:37 PM (5p7su)

390 "Once that water recedes, you've got all this disgusting soaking wet carpet, drywall, and all your household goods that are now trash you have to pull out of your house before you can even really start repairs."

*********

True.

My wife and I did some of that ourselves once the water receded and the streets were cleared of fallen trees.

Members of the remediation crew we hired did most of the heavy lifting.

Almost everything had to go to the curb for the big trash trucks, which didn't come by for nearly three weeks.

Posted by: one hour sober at September 30, 2024 02:37 PM (Y1sOo)

391 A bad response to a disaster could hurt a Republican, but not a Democrat. Their voters have to be instructed who to hate, otherwise it just defaults to Trump. The phones aren't going to tell them to hate Brandon or Harris.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 30, 2024 02:37 PM (awTae)

392
They don't. You have nothing to fear from either unless you are a toddler.
Posted by: garrett at September 30, 2024 02:35 PM (lKYo+)


Well, this bobcat didn't get your guidelines, I guess.


https://is.gd/FN9pEQ

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 30, 2024 02:37 PM (Zz0t1)

393 379 Fort Bragg is *RIGHT THERE* and full of able-bodied young people, brainpower, air assets and heavy equipment.
Posted by: the other coyote
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Yep. They are too busy repainting all the Fort Bragg signs into Ft. Liberty signs.

Posted by: whig at September 30, 2024 02:38 PM (SI97o)

394 Fort Bragg is *RIGHT THERE* and full of able-bodied young people, brainpower, air assets and heavy equipment.

Posted by: the other coyote at September 30, 2024 02:35 PM (oGPcA)

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Their primary missions now are to transgender every soldier and protect the Cartels' human, child sex, drug, and terrorist trafficking operation.

/only half-joking

Posted by: ShainS -- Assassination is The Ultimate Form of Censorship at September 30, 2024 02:38 PM (J+qpY)

395 Nood

Posted by: 496 at September 30, 2024 02:38 PM (ppICL)

396 I hope this doesn't end up like the Maui fires, where the predator elite comes into buy up all the property of a devastated and betrayed population.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 30, 2024 02:38 PM (wBaIH)

397 367 >>Or taste yummy to an alligator. They sneak right up on you on tip toes then CHOMP! Gone. Never to be heard from again.


I would not endorse star gazing while standing in the swamp, no.
Posted by: garrett at September

They are in the bay, too. Frankly, down here, if there is water, you can bet your sweet little finger there is a gator in it. With hot sauce at the ready.

Posted by: Piper at September 30, 2024 02:39 PM (pZEOD)

398 >>https://is.gd/FN9pEQ


You have a better chance of being attacked by a neighbors dog.

Posted by: garrett at September 30, 2024 02:39 PM (lKYo+)

399 Nood dockworkers

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at September 30, 2024 02:39 PM (4WBZX)

400 @ 383, very good point there, W-o!

give too generously, too often, and it can become an expectation ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at September 30, 2024 02:39 PM (UWgy2)

401 nood longshoremen

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 30, 2024 02:40 PM (CEzQx)

402 My mid-state SC folk are ok though no power.

Posted by: Eromero at September 30, 2024 02:41 PM (LHPAg)

403 Nood - Democratic October Surprise comes early

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2024 02:41 PM (5p7su)

404 391 A bad response to a disaster could hurt a Republican, but not a Democrat. Their voters have to be instructed who to hate, otherwise it just defaults to Trump. The phones aren't going to tell them to hate Brandon or Harris.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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Not true. The Dems no longer have a majority party existence. Independents and GOP are about as large now. This ain't the New Deal era anymore and reliance on media to tell you which way the wind blows is an exercise in futility.

What is more true is that urban Dems do not give one shit about whatever happens in flyover territory but those Dems do not have a majority in the electoral college enough to actually ignore indy and GOP voters.

Both NC and GA were close, the failed response probably will put both out of reach and with PA heading away from Kamel Toe and Tampon Tim, it can only get worse. Map is expanding for Trump, and diminishing for Kamel Toe.

Posted by: whig at September 30, 2024 02:41 PM (SI97o)

405
You have a better chance of being attacked by a neighbors dog.
Posted by: garrett at September 30, 2024 02:39 PM (lKYo+)


Well, that wasn't the point, now was it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 30, 2024 02:41 PM (Zz0t1)

406 The best I can tell (as someone who lives in the area) every town in WNC from a few miles west of Asheville to a hundred miles east has been devastated by flooding.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 30, 2024 02:42 PM (hT16X)

407 If you feel the desire to donate to a relief fund, I would strongly suggest Samaritan's Purse. They're an organization that can be trusted. Their relief efforts are already on the ground. Pray hard for all affected, irregardless of their politics. This is America.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * considering the imponderables at September 30, 2024 02:43 PM (iziaj)

408 314
This is your "bye-bye" event, Red Kammie.

Take the stammering stumblebum and your organ grinder monkey with you.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 30, 2024 02:23 PM (xG4kz)
__________________________
Friday was a twofer on that front. While NC was getting ravaged, the acting ICE Director confirmed some numbers. Over 13,000 illegal immigrants accused and or convicted of homicide put on the ICE docket and given a court date years from now as they are free to roam the country. 16,000 sex offender illegal aliens give the same. Over 662,000 people on the ICE docket with criminal backgrounds...most released into the general public. If this story every gets traction, it's a deal breaker for a lot of fence sitters.

Posted by: Orson at September 30, 2024 02:43 PM (dIske)

409 The NYT: Those tens of thousands of illegal alien murderers and rapists? Yeah, no big deal. Small price to pay.

https://is.gd/VuEsKx

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 30, 2024 02:48 PM (L/fGl)

410 Team Rubicon is another good one to donate too. Run by former military. Have friends in Fletcher which is not far from Asheville. Not much flooding but tons of downed trees, no power. Other people I know in the area had major damage to their house but they are up in Weaverville which is north of AVL. Lived in the area for over 10 years. My heart is breaking on how poorly the state and fed response has been. How do these evil fucks live with themselves. Rhetorical.

Posted by: Chici at September 30, 2024 02:57 PM (ftO7o)

411 Asheville, NC has been hit for sure, but there are more rural counties around Asheville that are it had been hit far harder that are not getting the attention and not getting the aid yet that they desperately need. There's no way to get to people on the roads because the roads and the bridges have washed out. The only helicopters in the area are private helicopters with private pilots, who are using their own money for gas to fly in supplies and do search and rescue. The Samaritan's Purse and the Cajun Navy are on ground and if you feel the urge to give and help, they are excellent organizations to give to.

Posted by: Redbanzai at September 30, 2024 03:03 PM (jy6gk)

412 Checking in from Roanoke, VA, we were hit pretty hard, but nothing like the areas a little further west and south.

One lake in Pulaski, County has about a 10 acre debris field that has accumulated.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at September 30, 2024 03:06 PM (k1E2D)

413 I've got friends in Asheville. Just able to send texts today for the first time. They're okay, on their farm in the mountains. The fallen trees missed their home, but they're concerned about more mudslides since more rain is coming. They have enough to get by, but are unable to leave their area because the roads are washed away.

Posted by: IrishEi at September 30, 2024 03:36 PM (3ImbR)

414 Other friends in Greenville, SC., three sisters and their families. One lost her home entirely, another is under 2 feet of water. So they're all at the other sister's house which thankfully is intact, although without power.

Posted by: IrishEi at September 30, 2024 03:38 PM (3ImbR)

415 I guess I should refresh the home page once in a while...lol

Posted by: IrishEi at September 30, 2024 03:38 PM (3ImbR)

416 Have not heard from anyone in my family. Not quite in panic mode, this ain't anyone's first rodeo, and I know it's impossible to communicate for awhile. One of my younger brothers and his sons were last seen on the Qualla Boundary before the storm hit, trying to convince our older Great Aunts to leave. I got the One Feather newsletter today and the fair is still on, so I assume everything is OK there, despite the flooding. Cherokee is very flooded. My brother is retired Marine, trained in emergency response, swift water rescue, etc.

I've heard they're thinking about evacuating parts of Columbia. Crazy.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at September 30, 2024 03:47 PM (Vvh2V)

417 I'm in Northeast Tennessee. This is the worst weather event in my half century. It came so fast that some folks had no chance to get out. You might live on a mountain miles from a river, but there's not enough soil to absorb all that water. So, pretty soon the street in front of your house is a raging river that didn't exist 3 hrs prior. Outside help (in spite of hat you hear online) is practically non-existent. Other than linemen and rescue workers (recovery workers now, sadly), everyone I've seen helping has been local orgs and neighbors helping neighbors. If you come down to help, talk to the locals. TEMA, FEMA, or Red Cross will be "equitable" in their aid distribution. The local orgs can get directly to John Jones up Jones Holler because he needs medicine and a cooler for his insulin. They know who has a dog and who needs baby food. Pray for these folks. They need it.

Posted by: Trooper John Smith at September 30, 2024 03:56 PM (Qa1H2)

418 239...I think we've had ours for three years and haven't needed it yet.
Posted by: bonhomme at September 30, 2024 02:11 PM (Odg76)

Take it out and run it. Be sure it works.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at September 30, 2024 04:23 PM (Rbu5d)

419 Their already blaming this on Global Warming/Climate Change as they have done since Hurricane Katrina back in 2005 Greenpeace Pests and Gore the Bore and the typical Hollywood idiots

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at September 30, 2024 04:49 PM (wGqjj)

420 Have heard from one aunt and her kids in Candler, just west of Asheville. No power, no phone, but they're ok.

Crickets from everyone south of Asheville, east TN, upstate SC and NE GA.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at September 30, 2024 05:34 PM (Vvh2V)

421 The skies over Western North Carolina should be dark with Ospreys Marine_Corps_Air_Station_New_River

Posted by: tmitsss at September 30, 2024 07:36 PM (XqsYe)

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