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Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, Oct. 5

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Hi! Is everybody okay after the storms? Fire danger gone where you are? I still worry. We are still having hot days here, but cool nights. It makes a difference when there is some cool time in the morning.

Aren't you impressed by the window box above?

My window boxes in Manitoba, Canada. Still blooming in late September in spite of a cold Zone 3 winter coming.

Conservative Hippy

The look great! Hope they last a while longer. And look at the one below:

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Edible Gardening/Putting Things By

Big beautiful fremont beans. Almost jewel like. Huge bushes with maroon flowers that attract humming birds throughout the season. They don't start producing pods until early august. Taste creamy.

S.Lynn
Idaho

They are almost certainly in the same family as Scarlet Runner Beans. There is considerable lore attached to beans with this name, but I don't know how reliable it is. The pods are so fat! Wonder if they're edible when small? Don't eat the pods or beans raw.

The late maturation is typical of scarlet runners and their relatives. Flowers open in warm summer weather, but pods don't set until the weather cools off. They would be a good choice in the San Francisco Bay area. Some varieties are a little more heat-tolerant than others, and there are a few hybrids between common beans and runner beans.

These beans are lovely. And apparently quite rare, so you have to save seed. Or save roots sort of like they were dahlias. I don't think the latter method is particularly reliable for most people. I tried it once with scarlet runners and didn't have much luck.

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From last week's thread:

NaughtyPine here. This is the acorn squash that mixed with a black beauty zucchini.

I saved seeds from local (Michigan) golden acorn squash, which is a green acorn or kabocha hybrid. But I found something about a hybrid "golden acorn" that's a mix of buttercup and butternut squashes.

The shape of this is certainly like a butternut.

However, another one is growing and it's definitely rounding like an acorn squash, except yellow instead of green.

I must say it's exciting to have something growing this late.

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If you want to save seed, you need to remove male blossoms of all the other nearby squash varieties of the same species before you pollinate the female blossom you hope will yield fruit and then seed you will save.

And seed from hybrids will almost always turn out different from the parent.

Time to review an old 2016 thread which summarizes lots of types of squash which are from the same species, including both acorn squash and zucchini, but many more. Absolutely amazing.

Under the blurb on Spaghetti Squashes in the old thread:

All the squashes above are from the species Cucurbita pepo, like zucchinis, most other summer squashes and some pumpkins. Now you know why squashes from volunteer seeds sometimes turn out so weird.

Here's the favored open-pollinated yellow acorn squash of organic squash growers:

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Gill's Golden Acorn

There is also a hybrid yellow acorn that's used as summer squash. Look around. Don't save seed from it.

Thinking about next year's orders?

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Ah, Nature

This is delightful:

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This may not be as delightful. Anybody know what it is?

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NorCal Sierra Foothills Lurker here.
We have these beetles every year but this year is way more than usual (!!) We live in the woods so see all kinds of nature stuff. Don’t know if these harm anything or what. Or why so many this year.

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Art

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Adventure

Big Cottonwood Canyon, Utah, Zane Frey:

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Gardens of The Horde

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Golden Barrel Cactus
(Echinocactus grusonii)
In bloom on top of our hill, here in Los Feliz (neighborhood of LA near Griffith Park.)

Lurker Extraordinaire

Magnificent!


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Hope everyone has a nice weekend.


If you would like to send photos, stories, links, etc. for the Saturday Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, the address is:

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Week in Review

What has changed since last week's thread? Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, Sept 28


Any thoughts or questions?

I closed the comments on this post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.


Posted by: K.T. at 01:29 PM




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1 Good afternoon Greenthumbs

Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2024 01:30 PM (fwDg9)

2 Had one of tomatoes on a turkey Sammy and decided they while very good where very few so far.
Cucumbers did well, still getting chili and Anaheim peppers.

Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2024 01:32 PM (fwDg9)

3 Those pink Fremont beans are beautiful. Do they cook up nice?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 05, 2024 01:34 PM (kpS4V)

4 Good morning KT, thanks for the GT!

Doing wind broken limb trimming here, a number of the trees didn't enjoy a strong wind from the SSE (not the usual direction for strong winds).

Puttering: I've been collecting horse shoes for welding practice. Betterhalf looked at them and decided she needed some over the front door decor. I got some tig welding practice and she likes them. Win!


Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 05, 2024 01:37 PM (qeYBT)

5 Had a good size sweet pepper but very green the other day and something stole it. Plant is caged too.

Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2024 01:38 PM (fwDg9)

6 Re: mystery beetle appears to be a bordered plant bug: https://shorturl.at/h8ZN7

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at October 05, 2024 01:40 PM (3bS+W)

7 Forecast 107° today, 108° tomorrow.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 05, 2024 01:41 PM (sZ+hC)

8 Freemont beans look like soybeans to me, except the color. Very pretty!

Posted by: Eromero at October 05, 2024 01:42 PM (o2ZRX)

9 And cleaned out compost bin and moved it to a plastic sheet to be covered with more plastic for 2 years before using. Leaves are starting to fall here already.

Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2024 01:44 PM (fwDg9)

10 We get leaf-footed plant bugs on our pomegranates, but I have never heard of a bordered plant bug.

Posted by: KT at October 05, 2024 01:53 PM (xekrU)

11 I harvested nothing from our garden this year. Everything died, or never produced.

I tried to use companion plants to keep the pests away, and it worked. None of the pests from last year showed up. Planted flowers to attract bees. Nothing. Have had produce before, but might not even try next year. Looks like our survival is counting on President Trump to put things back to normal.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 05, 2024 01:54 PM (0eaVi)

12 the last couple of years I planted Cranberry beans (romana) as a ground cover, I got them from a grocery store. I put them in after I dig my potatoes so they smother out the red root pigweed (amaranth sp.)
I never get shell beans, but the pods are a good late fall green bean.
The ripe beans in the package look like those pink beans up top, they are very pretty

Posted by: Kindltot at October 05, 2024 01:56 PM (D7oie)

13 Ahhh, mystery solved, told wife about pepper and she took it, forgot to tell me. Better than squirrel or rabbit getting it.

Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2024 01:57 PM (fwDg9)

14 If you want to save squash seed without too much work, only plant one variety of each species in your garden.

You can also cover and hand-pollinate female blossoms you intend to save, and tie a string around the stem.

Posted by: KT at October 05, 2024 01:57 PM (xekrU)

15 Those Fremont beans are also fun because they attract hummingbirds in summer.

Posted by: KT at October 05, 2024 01:59 PM (xekrU)

16 Update: it's turning into a butternut-type of squash, but with huge ends like a cartoon dogbone. The acorn-ahaped one is beginning to elongate into a teardrop. I harvested another zucchini and maybe another one will be reasy to harvest before critters eat it.

Considering I paid nothing for the mystery seeds, I consider it a win. My family eats all the squashes.

Maybe I can find someone who sells Hubbard squash seeds for next year.

Talking about gardening at work has been fun. My co-workers have given me tomatoes, yellow squash, and bell peppers. I found out who enjoys rhubarb, which is my bountiful crop.

Speaking of which, I need to break up the rhubarb roots but hornets have taken up residence in the ground around it. Any thought transplanting them on a warm day after the frost? Is that too late?

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 05, 2024 02:01 PM (mtG+O)

17 That insect reminds me a boxelder bugs, which are plentiful here despite no box elders in the immediate vicinity. Currently, the southwest side of the house has a collection of ladybugs, box elder bugs, and flies with rounded wings.

The orb weavers and jumping spiders nowhere to be seen.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 05, 2024 02:07 PM (mtG+O)

18 The photos just popped up (slow data today). Wow! that canyon is gorgeous.

Conservative Hippie, your boxes are beautiful. I'n glad you can enjoy them longer.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 05, 2024 02:12 PM (mtG+O)

19 3) All Hail....the beans cook up and taste like pintos.

Posted by: shari hastings at October 05, 2024 02:13 PM (weHhT)

20 NaughtyPine at October 05, 2024 02:01 PM

Check out some regional catalogs for Hubbard squashes. I think they're C. maxima, so you should be able to save non-hybrid seeds if you only grow one kind from that species. Even if you grow zucchini or acorn squash.

Posted by: KT at October 05, 2024 02:13 PM (xekrU)

21 I have hot poop all over me.

Posted by: Vissa at October 05, 2024 02:21 PM (bAAMA)

22 Whatsit = box elder bug.

We get plenty of them, and have no box elder trees. They also seem to like maples.

Posted by: Pat*'s Hubbie at October 05, 2024 02:23 PM (3jH9H)

23 Clean up on aisle twenty one.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 05, 2024 02:26 PM (sZ+hC)

24 Downstairs clean-up too

Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2024 02:33 PM (fwDg9)

25 My beautiful 7+ ft okra was flattened by 70+ mph winds. I'll send a pic when I can.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at October 05, 2024 02:33 PM (w6EFb)

26 I saved this to show you. It's a Queen of the Night plant that only blooms once a year. Goes to X
https://tinyurl.com/466hcwp9

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 05, 2024 02:35 PM (gfViB)

27 >>> 25 My beautiful 7+ ft okra was flattened by 70+ mph winds. I'll send a pic when I can.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at October 05, 2024 02:33 PM (w6EFb)

Even though I am an okra-hater, that sucks. I'm sure a lot of work went into that along with the rest of the garden.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 05, 2024 02:36 PM (FnneF)

28 Biden to Netanyahu: Don't, Don't, Don't Attack Iran !!!

Netanyahu to Biden: Kharg island is the answer... Now what was the question again Joey Oatmeal Brains

Posted by: Franklin Stein at October 05, 2024 02:42 PM (Mig/N)

29 The late maturation is typical of scarlet runners and their relatives. Flowers open in warm summer weather, but pods don't set until the weather cools off. They would be a good choice in the San Francisco Bay area. Some varieties are a little more heat-tolerant than others, and there are a few hybrids between common beans and runner beans.
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I've planted runner beans all over my garden, the flowers are beautiful and attract hummingbirds.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 05, 2024 02:49 PM (zG664)

30 I planted scarlet runners last year-- the seed packet had only FOUR beans in it!

3 sprouted, and then something ate the plants.

I will try again, but need a better source for seeds. $2 for 4 seeds? Ridiculous.

Posted by: JQ at October 05, 2024 02:53 PM (njWTi)

31 JQ I have to protect the seedlings because some insect finds them tasty. I find a bottle top works well.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 05, 2024 02:58 PM (zG664)

32 Thanks, SF! Great idea!

Posted by: JQ at October 05, 2024 03:00 PM (njWTi)

33 Hot girls are waiting for you on

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The lengths Ackbar will go to get us to click on his links.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 05, 2024 03:06 PM (2UnvF)

34 From Boise area: Highs 66-88 F, lows 43-52. Still harvesting tomatoes, zucchini. Did harvest my 4 little pie pumpkins, for a total crop of 5. Last potato harvest was 16.5 pounds. Harvested the last 4 bags today - not weighed yet. Found a burrowing-critter nest in one of them, and lost probably more than 2 pounds to nibbling - plus they chewed holes in 2 of the bags. Still a few red raspberries and strawberries, but they no longer have the sweetness they do in high summer.

Cut down all the best catnip to give to a friend.

Might have had our first frost last night, due to a cold front wind in the evening - my sweet potatoes have a withered leaf or two, which means they need to be harvested this week.

Praying for everyone suffering from Hurricane Helene...

Posted by: Pat* at October 05, 2024 03:10 PM (3jH9H)

35 Beautiful photos as always That 'Octobre' illustration is wonderful. Thanks.

Posted by: JTB at October 05, 2024 03:17 PM (yTvNw)

36 It's hard to believe the new seed catalogs will be arriving in 2 or 3 months. How the heck did it get to be October so soon?

Posted by: JTB at October 05, 2024 03:18 PM (yTvNw)

37 Can't say nature doesn't have a sense of humor. After storms, too little rain and too much rain and cloud, our cherry tomato plant is loaded with green tomatoes and we get a few to pick every couple of days. Had a few with a salad the other day.

Posted by: JTB at October 05, 2024 03:21 PM (yTvNw)

38 Maybe another batch of chili tomorrow, as said the chili peppers are going overtime. Wish they were not so hot, last years could pit all I wanted in a batch, These are Super Chili and 11 tiny peppers are all I can handle.

Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2024 03:23 PM (fwDg9)

39 KT,
Any idea where that French illustration came from? I assume there is one for each month. It would be fun to look at all of them.

Posted by: JTB at October 05, 2024 03:23 PM (yTvNw)

40 OrangeEnt at October 05, 2024 01:54 PM

What did you plant?

Posted by: KT at October 05, 2024 03:26 PM (xekrU)

41 JTB at October 05, 2024 03:23 PM

A French artist posts them sometimes on social media, but I don't think she's the artist. I'll see if she posts November next month.

Posted by: KT at October 05, 2024 04:19 PM (xekrU)

42 Check out some regional catalogs for Hubbard squashes. I think they're C. maxima, so you should be able to save non-hybrid seeds if you only grow one kind from that species. Even if you grow zucchini or acorn squash.
Posted by: KT at October 05, 2024 02:13 PM

Thanks for the recommendation. I definitely will look!

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 05, 2024 04:23 PM (1R9IM)

43 Pat* that is annoying- the eating of your food after you harvested it. I hope you enjoy the pumpkins!

Posted by: NaughtyPine at October 05, 2024 04:24 PM (1R9IM)

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