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Reuters Panel of 10 Undecided Voters Agree That Kamala Harris Won the Debate.
Six out of the Ten Say They're Now Voting for Trump.

Here's a point for those who say that the debate performance is much, much less important than the fundamentals of the race -- voters want a change from Biden, and voters saw through Kamala's well-rehearsed talking around the issue and realized she was double-talking while doubling down on Biden economic and immigration policies.


Or at least that's what I hope this single ten-person panel means. Panels are made for 1970s rumpus rooms.

Ed Morrissey, quoting from Reuters:


Reuters interviewed 10 people who were still unsure how they were going to vote in the Nov. 5 election before they watched the debate. Six said afterward they would now either vote for Trump or were leaning toward backing him. Three said they would now back Harris and one was still unsure how he would vote.

Reasons for backing Trump? I guess they were looking for Kamala Harris to perform so well she overcame the fundamentals of the race. But she didn't. She just turned in a well-rehearsed, canned-answer performance.


The Trump converts said they trusted him more on the economy, even though all said they did not like him as a person. They said their personal financial situation had been better when he was president between 2017-2021. Some singled out his proposal to tax foreign imports, although economists say that is likely to raise prices.

Four of those six also said Harris did not convince them she would pursue different economic policies than Democratic President Joe Biden, a Democrat they largely blame for the high cost of living.

Ed Morrissey comments that Kamala Harris won on style points, and thought she was winning while continuing to hide her actual policy positions.


However, that's not what voters wanted out of the debate. Harris came into it as a cipher, and that's the way she left it as well, thanks in large part to the efforts by ABCs moderators. They rarely pressed her for specifics on policies, and only lightly challenged her wide-ranging flip-flops over the last eight weeks or so. Only a couple of days after finally producing an issues page and nearly two months of refusing to talk to reporters (except for 26 minutes on CNN), undecided voters wanted some "meat on the bones," as one focus-group member told Reuters.

And they didn't get it. Harris may have succeeded in zinging Trump, but at least in this group, her strategy to skate on issues and just disqualify Trump failed to land.

One point I wish Trump made more forcefully is that Harris is trying to pretend that both of them are unknowns, and no one knows how either will perform in office.

But we do know how they'd perform in office. Trump was already president, and the world did not end, despite all the many, many claims from the "smart" set that it would. In fact, the economy rose to record heights and we had something close to world peace.

And we know how Kamala's performed in office, too.

This isn't a battle of two unknowns upon which we are free to project our wishes. These are two very known qualities (particularly in Trump's case).

Trump pointed out, at the end (when most stopped watching), that Kamala keeps saying "I'll do this, I'll do that" but never answers: Why aren't you doing that now, then? In fact, why hasn't it already been done?!

He equally should have pointed out that Kamala keeps claiming "Trump will do this, Trump will do that" while ignoring that Trump was in office for four years and did none of the things she's claiming he's determined to do.

This Pennsylvania voter from CNN's panel makes this point much more clearly than Trump did:

I don't know what CNN's panel said overall.

CNN did a post-debate poll and found that Trump gained on the economy:

Major caution with that, though: Post-debate polls reflect who watched them, and I would guess more Trump-voters watched than Kamala voters, because Trump's support is very enthusiastic and Kamala's is not.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 04:20 PM




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1
Called 'em.

*waits for treat*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2024 04:20 PM (ZG4KX)

2 Missed it by that much! ><

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 11, 2024 04:21 PM (CEzQx)

3 2nd?

Posted by: Tuna at September 11, 2024 04:21 PM (oaGWv)

4 Trump pointed out, at the end (when most stopped watching), that Kamala keeps saying "I'll do this, I'll do that" but never answers: Why aren't you doing that now, then? In fact, why hasn't it already been done?!

I'd have led with that.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 11, 2024 04:22 PM (xCA6C)

5 Reuters-Rooter, that's the name: Flush their bullshit down the drain.

Reuters-Rooter!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 11, 2024 04:22 PM (v6JzV)

6 Reuters Panel of 10 Undecided Voters Agree That Kamala Harris Won the Debate.
Six out of the Ten Say They're Now Voting for Trump.

======

Well, that's weird.

So much weirdness.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 11, 2024 04:22 PM (GBKbO)

7 they want us disillusioned

Posted by: brak at September 11, 2024 04:22 PM (NGHTx)

8 David Chalian and Brian Stelter are two of the sexiest journalists on Cable News.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 11, 2024 04:22 PM (PiwSw)

9 voters want a change from Biden
---
Kamala is the change from Biden while being the Biden legacy America needs.

Posted by: Axeman at September 11, 2024 04:22 PM (krQz2)

10 *tosses H7 a treat*

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 11, 2024 04:23 PM (PiwSw)

11 The paid trolls were out in force tho -

Posted by: meh at September 11, 2024 04:23 PM (yjRHe)

12 David Chalian and Brian Stelter are two of the sexiest journalists on Cable News.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 11, 2024 04:22 PM (PiwSw)


He looks like a fat Toobin

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 11, 2024 04:23 PM (NtVYv)

13 Seems like Piper's take, which she mentioned a couple of threads ago, was spot on.

Good job, Piper!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 11, 2024 04:23 PM (tT6L1)

14 Yea but, Trump combs his hair funny, and I get my hair styled at a salon in DC for $300 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Kamal Harris at September 11, 2024 04:24 PM (Wb+1f)

15 Mom jeans have rumpus room.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 11, 2024 04:24 PM (1mOP2)

16 Called 'em.

*waits for treat*
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Just don't let the puppies hear you opening the plastic wrapper.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 11, 2024 04:24 PM (v6JzV)

17 My wife tells me that on Facebook she read that someone has found that Kamala's earrings are, in fact, earphones. What's odd is that this has apparently been up for a bit, and hasn't been taken off. And it was put up by someone who has been in Facebook Jail twice in the past week.

On the main point above, I do suspect these were people who were already on, or at least near, our side.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 11, 2024 04:24 PM (1bNHn)

18 Laura Loomer @LauraLoomer [yeah, I know]
HAPPENING NOW:
President Trump just surprised the firefighters at Ladder 15 in New York City following the 9/11 memorial ceremony today. They were thrilled to see him.
Today marks 23 years since 9/11.

https://tinyurl.com/38s4vbk5
30 seconds

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 11, 2024 04:24 PM (CEzQx)

19 Kumala, all hat no cattle.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 11, 2024 04:24 PM (I1GXe)

20 ULTRA MAGA PARTY 👑 @MaxEvansUMP
Australia's Sky News gives the most honest review of the Kamala/Trump debate you will ever see

https://tinyurl.com/4actphvp
1:24 minutes

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 11, 2024 04:25 PM (CEzQx)

21 Ace, at least from my narrow view, the people who are leftists that I know and post on Facebook watched the debate and barfed up all kinds of anti Trump stuff. So the Kamalites watched

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 11, 2024 04:25 PM (tKS+g)

22 1. Pretend Trump did what Trump didn't do
2. Pretend Kamala did do what she won't admit to
3. Profit!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 11, 2024 04:25 PM (RIvkX)

23 6 Reuters Panel of 10 Undecided Voters Agree That Kamala Harris Won the Debate.
Six out of the Ten Say They're Now Voting for Trump.

======

Well, that's weird.

So much weirdness.


It's a pretty small sample set, but assuming it's reflective of the larger population, I think they're saying Kamala won as a debater (I'm not saying that, calm down) but Trump won as a politician. I'm not ready to believe this yet, though.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 11, 2024 04:26 PM (xCA6C)

24 Kumala, all hat no cattle.
Posted by: Ben Had

She knew how to round up Willie's "livestock," though.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 11, 2024 04:26 PM (v6JzV)

25 BUNKUM

Posted by: wth at September 11, 2024 04:26 PM (v0R5T)

26 Trump didn't have a great night but neither did Kamala. She refused to answer most questions and looked like a fool with her mannerisms and that was with the moderators on her side.

Also, Trump is Trump and everyone knows that. There's still supposedly people who are Camala curious and I don't think she helped herself much with those people. She may not have devolved into unintelligible word salads as she has in the past but most of her rambling answers were still word salads when you boil down to it.

IMHO.

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at September 11, 2024 04:26 PM (Y8lzz)

27 The polls are going to Mach their fraud

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2024 04:26 PM (fwDg9)

28 To win undecideds Trump needs to persuade them that

1) Kamala is the incumbent.
2) Things suck.

#1 should be obvious but...

#2 is obvious to the undecideds since the government has been looting non-government employee/elites for the last 4 years and the undecideds are in neither of those camps.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2024 04:26 PM (oZhjI)

29 Speaking to Normies amd Undecides:
Elon Musk @elonmusk 12h
While I don’t think the debate hosts were fair to @realDonaldTrump, @KamalaHarris exceeded most people’s expectations tonight.

That said, when it comes to getting things done, not just saying nice-sounding words, I strongly believe that Trump will do a far better job.

After all, if Kamala can do great things, why hasn’t she? Biden rarely shows up for work, so she’s basically in charge already.

The question comes down to this: do you want current trends to continue for 4 more years or do you want change?

KanekoaTheGreat @KanekoaTheGreat 13h
CNN Undecided Voter: "My life was better when Trump was in office. The economy was better. Inflation was lower. Things were better overall. And now, with Kamala's administration, things haven't been so fantastic. She's saying she can fix the problems that her administration has caused, but I don't know if I can afford to take that risk."

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 11, 2024 04:26 PM (CEzQx)

30 DEBUNKUM.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 11, 2024 04:26 PM (v6JzV)

31 >> This isn't a battle of two unknowns upon which we are free to project our wishes.
———
Barack Obama on line one, wanting to talk about blank screens.

Posted by: electronic means at September 11, 2024 04:27 PM (PG9nJ)

32 Greg Price @greg_price11 2h
Wow.

A 9/11 widow just called out Kamala and Biden for attempting to give a plea deal to the hijackers and Biden using the term "do 9/11" yesterday.

It appears Kamala and Biden left Ground Zero early and therefore weren't there for it

https://tinyurl.com/3e8bahht
55 seconds

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 11, 2024 04:27 PM (CEzQx)

33 Ace, at least from my narrow view, the people who are leftists that I know and post on Facebook watched the debate and barfed up all kinds of anti Trump stuff. So the Kamalites watched
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 11, 2024 04:25 PM (tKS+g)
===

Yes, I heard from my idiot lib friends this morning. Something about I'm racist because i said black people eat cats.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 11, 2024 04:27 PM (RIvkX)

34 https://tinyurl.com/38s4vbk5
30 seconds
Posted by: andycanuck

Thank you for posting that video, very cool.

Posted by: Scarlett O'Hara at September 11, 2024 04:28 PM (efuu+)

35 America deserves what happens to it if we let them steal yet another Presidential election. WE let them do it last time and it cost NONE of our elected officials a damn thing, while costing ALL of the hard-working taxpayers quite a pretty penny. We know damn well she can't actually *win* on votes (not even the popular vote, much less the electoral vote). But will we stand by and let them STEAL the damn thing again?

Posted by: Crusader at September 11, 2024 04:28 PM (U4ek1)

36 black people eat cats


OMG, how gross is that???
-- B. H. Obama

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 11, 2024 04:28 PM (v6JzV)

37 18 Laura Loomer @LauraLoomer [yeah, I know]
HAPPENING NOW:
President Trump just surprised the firefighters at Ladder 15 in New York City following the 9/11 memorial ceremony today. They were thrilled to see him.
Today marks 23 years since 9/11.

https://tinyurl.com/38s4vbk5
30 seconds
Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 11, 2024 04:24 PM (CEzQx)

Imagine your chief saying, "One of the presidential candidates will be visiting us today."

And it turns out to be Kamala.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 11, 2024 04:28 PM (KbCG3)

38 Everything is racist if YOU said it… that’s how it works…

Posted by: tubal at September 11, 2024 04:29 PM (PCK5/)

39 She's saying she can fix the problems that her administration has caused, but I don't know if I can afford to take that risk."/i]

I mean this should be a pretty obvious reason to vote against her.

Well this contractor I hired destroyed my bathroom instead of fixing it but he is promising that if I pay him again he'll do it right this time...said no one...ever.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2024 04:29 PM (oZhjI)

40
Last night's debate puts Kamala at the 100 million vote threshold.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2024 04:29 PM (ZG4KX)

41 Something I want to point out, as I do every year. I do not want the WTC attacks on 9/11 to completely erase memory of the Battle of Lake Champlain (aka Battle of Plattsburg). It was probably the most impressive of our navy's wins in the War of 1812.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 11, 2024 04:30 PM (1bNHn)

42 Odds on when the conversation changes??

Posted by: tubal at September 11, 2024 04:30 PM (PCK5/)

43
Independents are now 50% of the voters. Ignore what the polls who over-represent the (D)'s and (R)'s say.

Watch the (I)'s (like myself). The (D)'s have almost completely lost them with the 'progressive' bullshit.

You start mutilating kids, paying for gender changing of aliens, and bringing the dregs of society into their towns? You lose.

Posted by: Hungry Haitian at September 11, 2024 04:30 PM (RKVpM)

44 Something about I'm racist because i said black people eat cats.

I have seen a lot of single women on the internet complaining that black men won't eat their cats...

Posted by: Obligatory at September 11, 2024 04:30 PM (oZhjI)

45 The polls are going to Mach their fraud
---------
Debating at twice the speed of sound -- it's easy to get burned!

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 11, 2024 04:31 PM (CEzQx)

46 8 David Chalian and Brian Stelter are two of the sexiest journalists on Cable News.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 11, 2024 04:22 PM (PiwSw)
_______
That is a discredited conspiracy theory.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 11, 2024 04:31 PM (1bNHn)

47 President Trump just surprised the firefighters at Ladder 15 in New York City following the 9/11 memorial ceremony today.
Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 11, 2024 04:24 PM (CEzQx)

Media: Trump violates sanctity of firehouse to campaign on solemn day of remembrance.

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at September 11, 2024 04:31 PM (VGRuw)

48 >>ULTRA MAGA PARTY 👑 @MaxEvansUMP
Australia's Sky News gives the most honest review of the Kamala/Trump debate you will ever see


The Lotus Eaters had a pretty good video on it as well.

Posted by: garrett at September 11, 2024 04:32 PM (ZLCNA)

49 That is a discredited conspiracy theory.
Posted by: Eeyore at September 11, 2024 04:31 PM (1bNHn)

I wouldn't know.

I'm not a biologist.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 11, 2024 04:32 PM (nPLkK)

50 A couple of my takeaways were: It's a character flaw on PDT's part to let someone get under his skin--which Ace has been hammering home for some time and which is not a surprise to any of us--AND Kamala spent her debate prep crafting barbs to get under his skin!

Posted by: m at September 11, 2024 04:32 PM (64Zez)

51 >>Debating at twice the speed of sound -- it's easy to get burned!


Well. I was inverted at the time...

Your wife. She likes that position.

Posted by: Paolo at September 11, 2024 04:33 PM (ZLCNA)

52 I'm not a biologist.
Posted by: Warai-otoko

But if you identify as one, it's all good.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 11, 2024 04:33 PM (v6JzV)

53 after the debate, Fox News called Arizona for Que Mala

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 11, 2024 04:33 PM (a/cF8)

54 Trump debated the moderators while Harris sat back rubbing the bean and grinning. Small surprise Harris "won" under those conditions.
This is where Harris' team learns that the election isn't held at 10 PM on 10 September.

Posted by: gKWVE at September 11, 2024 04:33 PM (gKWVE)

55 23 6 Reuters Panel of 10 Undecided Voters Agree That Kamala Harris Won the Debate.
Six out of the Ten Say They're Now Voting for Trump.

======

Well, that's weird.

So much weirdness.

It's a pretty small sample set, but assuming it's reflective of the larger population, I think they're saying Kamala won as a debater (I'm not saying that, calm down) but Trump won as a politician. I'm not ready to believe this yet, though.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 11, 2024 04:26 PM (xCA6C)
_______
It may just be that they've finally figured out that these debates are all bullshit.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 11, 2024 04:33 PM (1bNHn)

56 Count the Mrs. as part of the Rueters group.

Doesn't like Trump personally but understands economics and the world being on fire. Particularly immigration

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at September 11, 2024 04:34 PM (JkCto)

57 The Trump converts said they trusted him more on the economy, even though all said they did not like him as a person.

So let's ask them how/what happened for them not to like him as a person? Do they know him personally?
See, back before even 2016, back when we had the birth certificate crapfest, someone said something like "Trump is abrasive" or things to that effect, maybe even from having watched The Apprentice. Now everyone has repeated that mantra.

Posted by: Ciampino - my tire iron is going to end up bent from all the skulls at September 11, 2024 04:34 PM (qfLjt)

58 Trump debated the moderators while Harris sat back rubbing the bean
Posted by: gKWVE

I thought it was called "flicking." And doesn't she have a midget strapped to her thigh to do that?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 11, 2024 04:34 PM (v6JzV)

59 ?que?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2024 04:35 PM (PDf99)

60 It wasn't so much a 'debate' as it was a struggle session directed at Trump.

Posted by: Martini Farmer-Rhetorical Flourishes and Factual Liberty at September 11, 2024 04:35 PM (Q4IgG)

61 Turnout. Turnout. Turnout.

Last night won't increase Kamala's.

Last night has angered Trump supporters even more, if that was possible.

Even honest professional polls will miss this.

Developing ....

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 11, 2024 04:35 PM (nFx0I)

62 I saw a president outright state that the Democratic candidate was a Marxist.

The most clear, honest statement by a candidate running against a Democrat that I've seen in my lifetime.

I'm not too worried about character flaws like "he let an annoying hood rat whore annoy him"

Posted by: Boron Cobbie at September 11, 2024 04:36 PM (656Gl)

63 I thought it was called "flicking." And doesn't she have a midget strapped to her thigh to do that?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 11, 2024 04:34 PM (v6JzV)


The things I do for the Party...

Posted by: Robert Reich at September 11, 2024 04:36 PM (PiwSw)

64 I posted it in the thread below, but the panel on Fox, with dial-o-meters, found the same:
Trump scored bigly with independents.

We all were expecting a knock-out blow.
They were just looking for her to give a better answer than Trump.
She didn't.
"Let's hug and have a Coke" isn't a better answer when you can't afford a Coke.
Looked at that way, it's no wonder they went with Trump--he's already sold them, they just wanted to check if they made the right decision.
Like you're buying a TV, (remember when you could afford a new one under Trump?) and you check Amazon real quick and find the price isn't better.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 11, 2024 04:36 PM (+4IV9)

65 Again, the only people who thought Kumbublablabla cleaned Trumps clock were TDS Tards.

Normies saw through the unfairness and lies of last nights, whatever that was, but was surely not a debate, bullsh*t.

As was noted, nothing that happened last night is going into any Donk campaign commercial, there is nothing from last night that is going to cause Trump to lose voters or regret.

The very shitty cake of the last 3.5 years is baked, frosted and is less than two months from being served.

Who get to eat this shit cake remains to be seen.

G-d willing its not us and it's them.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 11, 2024 04:36 PM (XV/Pl)

66 See, back before even 2016, back when we had the birth certificate crapfest
Posted by: Ciampino

Trump had a birth-certificate issue? I haven't heard about this.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 11, 2024 04:36 PM (v6JzV)

67 He equally should have pointed out that Kamala keeps claiming "Trump will do this, Trump will do that" while ignoring that Trump was in office for four years and did none of the things she's claiming he's determined to do.

--

^^^Why couldn't he say this one thing that I've barked at the TV about a dozen times just this month.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at September 11, 2024 04:36 PM (wzAuc)

68 Black Americans aren't firing up the grill and tossing Fluffy on top. Haitians are. TSanFranPyscho tell your friend it's pretty racist of him to generalize about all black people.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at September 11, 2024 04:36 PM (r4t+n)

69 "The Trump converts said they trusted him more on the economy, even though all said they did not like him as a person. They said their personal financial situation had been better when he was president between 2017-2021. Some singled out his proposal to tax foreign imports, although economists say that is likely to raise prices.

Four of those six also said Harris did not convince them she would pursue different economic policies than Democratic President Joe Biden, a Democrat they largely blame for the high cost of living."


Not surprising. Kammie is basically saying everything she currently believes about economic policy, foreign policy, immigration policy, etc., is based on what she learned from Joe Biden over the past 3.5 years. In other words, she'll govern as a cackling female bi-racial Joe Biden. No sale.

Posted by: Gref at September 11, 2024 04:37 PM (aBgBM)

70 Say, what ever happened to Clint Flicker, anyways?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 11, 2024 04:37 PM (nPLkK)

71 20 ULTRA MAGA PARTY 👑 @MaxEvansUMP
Australia's Sky News gives the most honest review of the Kamala/Trump debate you will ever see

https://tinyurl.com/4actphvp
1:24 minutes
Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 11, 2024 04:25 PM (CEzQx)

LOL and the photo at the top of that X-page

Posted by: m at September 11, 2024 04:37 PM (64Zez)

72 56 Count the Mrs. as part of the Rueters group.

Doesn't like Trump personally but understands economics and the world being on fire. Particularly immigration
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at September 11, 2024 04:34 PM (JkCto)
_______
My wife too. He does annoy many women.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 11, 2024 04:37 PM (1bNHn)

73 That Aussie video is funny.

'They sucked Boldly.'

Posted by: garrett at September 11, 2024 04:37 PM (ZLCNA)

74 I hear people who have and will vote for Trump saying they don’t like him, some even saying they can’t stand him… but they always say they like and liked what he does/ did….

Posted by: tubal at September 11, 2024 04:37 PM (PCK5/)

75 I believe undecided voters are a myth, like the female orgasm.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 11, 2024 04:37 PM (aPY1X)

76
It may just be that they've finally figured out that these debates are all bullshit.
Posted by: Eeyore at September 11, 2024 04:33 PM (1bNHn)

___________

They are. All anyone cares about is who made a gaffe. And it gives undeserved prominence to otherwise worthless journalists.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2024 04:38 PM (ZG4KX)

77 He equally should have pointed out that Kamala keeps claiming "Trump will do this, Trump will do that" while ignoring that Trump was in office for four years and did none of the things she's claiming he's determined to do.


If elected Trump will do all sorts of things he didn't do when he was in office last time.

However if elected Kamala will reverse all the things she's currently doing to us.

Posted by: The media spin is insane at September 11, 2024 04:38 PM (oZhjI)

78 My wife too.
Posted by: Eeyore

Tell her to calm down.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 11, 2024 04:38 PM (v6JzV)

79 The Trump converts said they trusted him more on the economy, even though all said they did not like him as a person.


-

Completely oblivious to the part where they hold that belief because the people who told them Biden was sharp and Kamala was capable also informed them of Trumps poopy head nature.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie at September 11, 2024 04:38 PM (656Gl)

80 >>undecided voters wanted some "meat on the bones,"
———
Just like the poor Haitians.

Posted by: electronic means at September 11, 2024 04:38 PM (PG9nJ)

81 To me she came off as a nasty beyotch...She made unpleasant faces and her voice is irritating

Posted by: It's me donna at September 11, 2024 04:38 PM (IyPmt)

82 A 9/11 widow just called out Kamala and Biden for attempting to give a plea deal to the hijackers and Biden using the term "do 9/11" yesterday.

It appears Kamala and Biden left Ground Zero early and therefore weren't there for it

https://tinyurl.com/3e8bahht
55 seconds
Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 11, 2024 04:27 PM (CEzQx)
========================
Tulsi Gabbard says Que Mala told us last evening

"We must have the courage to reject the term 'radical Islamic terrorism'."

She wants to accept the terrorism, just rejects the term.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 11, 2024 04:38 PM (Ye22v)

83 57 The Trump converts said they trusted him more on the economy, even though all said they did not like him as a person.

So let's ask them how/what happened for them not to like him as a person? Do they know him personally?
See, back before even 2016, back when we had the birth certificate crapfest, someone said something like "Trump is abrasive" or things to that effect, maybe even from having watched The Apprentice. Now everyone has repeated that mantra.
Posted by: Ciampino - my tire iron is going to end up bent from all the skulls at September 11, 2024 04:34 PM (qfLjt)
_______
He is abrasive, and a braggart. A common type where he's from - where I grew up, so I'm used to it. But many people flat out don't like New Yorkers. That doesn't puzzle me. What does is how many New Yorkers take that attitude.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 11, 2024 04:39 PM (1bNHn)

84
Who's the one who posts "busty blond" pics? Is he MIA?

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 11, 2024 04:39 PM (iI7+d)

85 Black Americans aren't firing up the grill and tossing Fluffy on top. Haitians are. TSanFranPyscho tell your friend it's pretty racist of him to generalize about all black people.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V
___

lol

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at September 11, 2024 04:39 PM (RU4sa)

86 75 I believe undecided voters are a myth, like the female orgasm.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 11, 2024 04:37 PM (aPY1X)

LOL...oh, ALABAMA...

Posted by: IC - #FJB at September 11, 2024 04:40 PM (YiKO5)

87 That Ann coulter article with the role reversed debate from 2016 is really interesting. Basic premise is Hillary is just an asshole whether a male or female plays her part.

Kamala is cut from the same mold. Women who doubt themselves and how they got as far as they did so they overcorrect by being bitchy and an asshole.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 11, 2024 04:40 PM (aPY1X)

88 I’ve ate pan fried groundhog, so…

Posted by: tubal at September 11, 2024 04:40 PM (PCK5/)

89 @48 garrett-The Lotus Eaters assessment of both sides being so entrenched the debate did nothing is correct.

Posted by: JROD at September 11, 2024 04:41 PM (IlL6s)

90 The only black *AMERICAN* I know that was eating pets is Barky Obama. So I guess his name is fitting if you are what you eat...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2024 04:41 PM (oZhjI)

91 Remember the clip of Obama at Ground Zero in 2008, while he was campaigning, flicking the rose with disdain (or was it disgust) onto the memorial? This xerson does....

Posted by: ... at September 11, 2024 04:41 PM (U/CEs)

92 But many people flat out don't like New Yorkers.

Yes. Correct.

Posted by: At Least Your Not Bostonians, I Guess at September 11, 2024 04:41 PM (6rN9f)

93 81 To me she came off as a nasty beyotch...She made unpleasant faces and her voice is irritating

Posted by: It's me donna at September 11, 2024 04:38 PM (IyPmt)

Same. I am a woman and I found it annoying, must have been worst for the men. not the soi boys, they probably liked that.

Posted by: IC - #FJB at September 11, 2024 04:41 PM (YiKO5)

94 >>The Lotus Eaters assessment of both sides being so entrenched the debate did nothing is correct.


Pretty much. Also, they had Trump Kitty and Duck Memes.

Posted by: garrett at September 11, 2024 04:42 PM (ZLCNA)

95 50 A couple of my takeaways were: It's a character flaw on PDT's part to let someone get under his skin--which Ace has been hammering home for some time and which is not a surprise to any of us--AND Kamala spent her debate prep crafting barbs to get under his skin!

Posted by: m at September 11, 2024 04:32 PM (64Zez)


I'll bet Trump's mood quickly became, "I'm not going to let this dumbsh!t minority hire woman lie about me all night with the help of these ABC liars and not describe the truth! In detail!"

And that's the Trump we got last night.

Posted by: Gref at September 11, 2024 04:42 PM (aBgBM)

96 On Buck and Clay, some dude was saying the white non-college educated group has by far the lowest voter turnout. That surprised me. If they can get off their asses and vote this fall, Trump has the election. Whites are still the biggest racial group in the country and the non-college voters outnumber the college educated.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at September 11, 2024 04:42 PM (r4t+n)

97 73 That Aussie video is funny.

'They sucked Boldly.'


boldly to suck like no one has sucked before

Posted by: grammatically correct kirk at September 11, 2024 04:42 PM (oY6Yp)

98 He is abrasive, and a braggart.
Posted by: Eeyore

And that's why he has survived thus far. The wine bitches don't get it.

All alpha males are abrasive (at times) and braggarts (almost always). But they are the ones who get things done and move civilizations forward.

We need to relegate tha wine ladies to the terem.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 11, 2024 04:42 PM (v6JzV)

99 Ah, the dead cat bounce.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 11, 2024 04:42 PM (aPY1X)

100 81 To me she came off as a nasty beyotch...She made unpleasant faces and her voice is irritating

Posted by: It's me donna at September 11, 2024 04:38 PM (IyPmt)

Same. I am a woman and I found it annoying, must have been worst for the men. not the soi boys, they probably liked that.


Demean me harder Momala!

Posted by: Soi Boy at September 11, 2024 04:43 PM (Y8lzz)

101 Ahhh…so this is why x is being flooded from her account with her scripted talking points she used last night.

Her style was better than Trumps. Her BS flowed fluently and freely, but it was BS. I will say it again, while her words flew out (and they did sound rehearsed), her demeanor was just ugly. It was boss woman. It was leadership. It was nasty.

Posted by: Piper at September 11, 2024 04:43 PM (pRpzT)

102
remember THUNDARR the BARBARIAN?

Here's Thundarr in Super Panavision 70:

https://youtu.be/_7lQgOHg6nc?si=bUAPbybhP2SFPu2k

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at September 11, 2024 04:43 PM (iI7+d)

103 84
Who's the one who posts "busty blond" pics? Is he MIA?
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 11, 2024 04:39 PM (iI7+d)
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Joe Mannix. He's got a new job.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 11, 2024 04:43 PM (1bNHn)

104 America in Reality:

2017 - 2019: Trump, good
2020 - Trump, but Covid, bad
2021 - 2024: Harris, bad

America in Harris's Debate Reality:

2017-2019: did not happen
2020: Trump, bad
2021-2024: did not happen

Posted by: mikeski at September 11, 2024 04:43 PM (DgGvY)

105 99 Ah, the dead cat bounce.
Posted by: AlaBAMA

Too soon!

Posted by: Piper at September 11, 2024 04:44 PM (pRpzT)

106 Libs of Tik Tok has a video of Biden donning a Trump cap at a 9/11 event in PA.

Posted by: Midnight Rambler at September 11, 2024 04:44 PM (+3Vw/)

107 Who's the one who posts "busty blond" pics? Is he MIA?
Posted by: Soothsayer

He's got a new job, so he's putting maximum commitment into it before the burnout kicks in.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 11, 2024 04:44 PM (v6JzV)

108 Also does anyone really believe she is going to lead a new path forward if elected? She is lazy and would be on more vacations than Biden.

Posted by: IC - #FJB at September 11, 2024 04:44 PM (YiKO5)

109 81 To me she came off as a nasty beyotch...She made unpleasant faces and her voice is irritating
Posted by: It's me donna

I mentioned this in an earlier thread, but I was only listening to the debate, not watching, and it heightened my awareness of her AWFUL voice. My husband asked "has she always been that nasally?" Yes, I think so, but she sounded extra bad last night.

Posted by: Scarlett O'Hara at September 11, 2024 04:44 PM (efuu+)

110
lol

Remember THE HERCULOIDS?

Remember Gloop & Gleep?

https://youtu.be/nPvf6coSKLo?si=LffAeh-0gRA7irJb&t=70

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at September 11, 2024 04:44 PM (iI7+d)

111 The water cooler talk today from all the people I've talked to is "I wish Trump had said..." Just never really had a single talking point down.


Not one Trump supporter I know has said "Trump won" or even "Trump did okay". But no one is changing their vote either.

I tend to think 99% that watch debates are rabid partisans that have already decided, but it's going to pull down Trump's numbers when the consensus is "Trump lost the debate"

Posted by: Blago at September 11, 2024 04:45 PM (wMRY8)

112 Trump should have just repeatedly taken the steam out of both ABC and Harris by talking Directly to the American people.

Tell them he's being attacked with lie after lie and for them to do their homework and look it up.

Tell them he did it once before and will do it again.

Tell them these people are destroying this once great country.

That's how you screw their plans. Use the time to talk to someone directly and ignore the assholes screaming in the room

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 11, 2024 04:45 PM (aPY1X)

113 Ah, the dead cat bounce.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 11, 2024 04:42 PM (aPY1X)

Damn, bama...............

Posted by: ... at September 11, 2024 04:45 PM (U/CEs)

114 Ah, the dead cat bounce.
Posted by: AlaBAMA


Perk!
Posted by: Haitians

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 11, 2024 04:45 PM (eHh36)

115 Was watching a video recently talking about the large cohort of youngish men out of the labor force. Nicholas Eberstadt mentioned they don't have a political movement but if they did it might have a pretty significant impact because there are so many of them.

I can't imagine them looking at this campaign and sitting it out again but...I guess that's why I'm not one of them.

Kamala's promising 4 more years of weed, pron, and sleeping in your parent's basement. Trump's offering you a real chance to make something of yourself by getting government out of the way...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2024 04:45 PM (oZhjI)

116 98
All alpha males are abrasive (at times) and braggarts (almost always). But they are the ones who get things done and move civilizations forward.

We need to relegate tha wine ladies to the terem.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

This is true. If women say they don’t like this ever, they are lying. We don’t like it all the time, mind you. But it does come with the territory.

If you want a man in finance, 6’5, trust fund…you get this side, too.

Posted by: Piper at September 11, 2024 04:46 PM (pRpzT)

117 Every man who's ever argued with a woman recognized those tactics. Bring up some old shit or some shit that never happened just to get a reaction, then sit back with a smirk and ask why you're getting mad.

Posted by: the dandy at September 11, 2024 04:46 PM (L+5ng)

118 81 To me she came off as a nasty beyotch...She made unpleasant faces and her voice is irritating

Posted by: It's me donna at September 11, 2024 04:38 PM (IyPmt)


I believe her B-movie actress Valley Girl smirks, eye-rolls, faces, and poses pissed-off everyone except the hard-core Democrat faithful.

Posted by: Gref at September 11, 2024 04:46 PM (aBgBM)

119
Hi, All, Town Manager, here. Just want to correct the record here and tell you there have been no reports of Undecided Voters supporting Trump.

Posted by: Town Manager at September 11, 2024 04:46 PM (iI7+d)

120 A couple of my takeaways were: It's a character flaw on PDT's part to let someone get under his skin--which Ace has been hammering home for some time and which is not a surprise to any of us--AND Kamala spent her debate prep crafting barbs to get under his skin!

It would have been political malpractice to do anything else, and Trump fell for it.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 11, 2024 04:46 PM (xCA6C)

121 What is the margin of error I a sample size 10? Like 90%? This is just silly now.

Posted by: Bitch please at September 11, 2024 04:46 PM (KF2Wj)

122 107 Also, he's gotta build up his bank account to its former level so that he can afford to rehire his cohort of thots.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 11, 2024 04:47 PM (v6JzV)

123 Women don't like that kind of woman. They've all encountered bosses like her. And social climbers like her.

They say they don't like Trump but in the booth it's bean flipping time.

Posted by: ... at September 11, 2024 04:48 PM (U/CEs)

124 SanFranPyscho tell your friend it's pretty racist of him to generalize about all black people.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at September 11, 2024 04:36 PM (r4t+n)
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They are as racist as any garden-variety white lib

Now remember, I never said anything like that but CNN told them I did.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 11, 2024 04:48 PM (RIvkX)

125
He's got a new job, so he's putting maximum commitment into it before the burnout kicks in.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Joe Mannix. He's got a new job.
Posted by: Eeyore


Oh. Well, that's good, then.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 11, 2024 04:48 PM (iI7+d)

126 Kamala was like an actress, an unskilled one, acting the part of Lady Cool President. Her facial expressions were haughty and exaggerated. Her answers were like college newspaper essays. Not one policy statement.

Trump talked about real issues and so looked like he was the only one who knew what was going on in the world.

Kamala for Commander in Chief? Unthinkable.

Posted by: PJU at September 11, 2024 04:48 PM (RRCAT)

127 I grew up with Trump in the NYC tabloids and didn't like him then.

If you don't appreciate what he's been doing now, you're a fool. He's put his life and personal fortune at risk. Our Founding Fathers would smile.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 11, 2024 04:48 PM (nFx0I)

128 113 Ah, the dead cat bounce.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 11, 2024 04:42 PM (aPY1X)

Damn, bama...............
Posted by: ... at September 11, 2024 04:45 PM (U/CEs)

well, it was right there...

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 11, 2024 04:48 PM (aPY1X)

129 I tend to think 99% that watch debates are rabid partisans that have already decided

I think this is correct. The ones who say they're "undecided" are largely lying to themselves. They're looking for validation, but it won't change the vote they've already decided to cast.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 11, 2024 04:48 PM (xCA6C)

130 116 98
All alpha males are abrasive (at times) and braggarts (almost always). But they are the ones who get things done and move civilizations forward.

We need to relegate tha wine ladies to the terem.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

This is true. If women say they don’t like this ever, they are lying. We don’t like it all the time, mind you. But it does come with the territory.

If you want a man in finance, 6’5, trust fund…you get this side, too.
Posted by: Piper at September 11, 2024 04:46 PM (pRpzT)
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It's not true. It doesn't describe most of the Founders, for instance. Or the men who fought the Civil War. Not the WWI generation, either, or WWII. Some were, sure, but the leaders mostly weren't.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 11, 2024 04:48 PM (1bNHn)

131 I don't like Trumps style. It grates on me. Always has. That's one reason I liked the selection of Vance. He can articulate Trumps positions better than Trump can. But I'm voting for Trump because my personal tastes don't matter. The country does.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at September 11, 2024 04:49 PM (r4t+n)

132 Women don't like that kind of woman. They've all encountered bosses like her. And social climbers like her.


I know a rather large number of women in the corporate world that

A) Complain about being managed by a boss bitch and demand male managers
B) Complain the only reason they haven't been promoted to management is sexism.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2024 04:49 PM (oZhjI)

133 Women don't like that kind of woman. They've all encountered bosses like her. And social climbers like her.

They say they don't like Trump but in the booth it's bean flipping time.

-

Maybe.

Tribalism is a very powerful thing, though.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie at September 11, 2024 04:49 PM (656Gl)

134 125
Joe Mannix. He's got a new job.
Posted by: Eeyore

Oh. Well, that's good, then.
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 11, 2024 04:48 PM (iI7+d)

======

How tough can onboarding be?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 11, 2024 04:49 PM (GBKbO)

135 Bulg- I am going to answer your email in a second, I apologize for the delay. I have just been…sad. I am sad. Especially because I would be calling Chuck right now and we would be hashing out the debate and all the things we would have done differently, all the things that went right, how stupid the left is. I am remembering all the good memories, but right now, I think I am just going to be sad for a little bit.

I was looking at his text messages and durning the DNC he was sending me joke texts asking what hotel I was staying in and asking when my speech was scheduled.

Posted by: Piper at September 11, 2024 04:49 PM (pRpzT)

136 well, it was right there...
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 11, 2024 04:48 PM (aPY1X)

Well it's getting late in the day and nobody else grabbed that pussy.

Posted by: ... at September 11, 2024 04:49 PM (U/CEs)

137
Is it me or is it hard to take Australians seriously even when they're being serious?

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 11, 2024 04:49 PM (iI7+d)

138 Joe Mannix. He's got a new job.
Posted by: Eeyore


You want a new drug.
You'll take a hot girl.
You'll get a new job.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 11, 2024 04:50 PM (xCA6C)

139 Conventional wisdom is that if you are currently an undecided voter, you are functionally retarded...and some are difunctionally retarded. The former are absent minded idiots. The latter are window licking malcontents.

Posted by: Orson at September 11, 2024 04:50 PM (dIske)

140
I mentioned this in an earlier thread, but I was only listening to the debate, not watching, and it heightened my awareness of her AWFUL voice. My husband asked "has she always been that nasally?" Yes, I think so, but she sounded extra bad last night.
Posted by: Scarlett O'Hara


To have listened to the debaters is to have realized that not only would Red Kammie put boots on our necks, but we'd have to endure her nasal and obnoxious voice while suffering that indignity.

Hard pass.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 11, 2024 04:50 PM (xG4kz)

141 I believe her B-movie actress Valley Girl smirks, eye-rolls, faces, and poses pissed-off everyone except the hard-core Democrat faithful.
Posted by: Gref at September 11, 2024 04:46 PM (aBgBM)


I watched about 5 minutes and got the same impression.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 11, 2024 04:50 PM (NtVYv)

142 How tough can onboarding be?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 11, 2024 04:49 PM (GBKbO)
--------------

If you're walking into a new company with an IT infrastructure that started 25 or 30 years ago, it takes a bit.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 11, 2024 04:51 PM (tT6L1)

143 137
Is it me or is it hard to take Australians seriously even when they're being serious?
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 11, 2024 04:49 PM (iI7

They are always taking the piss.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 11, 2024 04:51 PM (aPY1X)

144 I don't like Trumps style. It grates on me. Always has. That's one reason I liked the selection of Vance. He can articulate Trumps positions better than Trump can. But I'm voting for Trump because my personal tastes don't matter. The country does.

You are wise. I'm in the same boat.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 11, 2024 04:51 PM (xCA6C)

145 It's not true. It doesn't describe most of the Founders, for instance. Or the men who fought the Civil War. Not the WWI generation, either, or WWII. Some were, sure, but the leaders mostly weren't.
Posted by: Eeyore at September 11, 2024 04:48 PM (1bNHn)

Don't know where you read that, but you might want to reevaluate that statement. Patton. McArthur. Even Ike, for heaven's sake. And if you think the Adams' were mild-mannered, you haven't read what they wrote. Hell, Ben Franklin was an inveterate horn dog. Hookers all the time.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at September 11, 2024 04:51 PM (UsZOO)

146 81 To me she came off as a nasty beyotch...She made unpleasant faces and her voice is irritating

Posted by: It's me donna at September 11, 2024 04:38 PM (IyPmt)

Same. I am a woman and I found it annoying, must have been worst for the men. not the soi boys, they probably liked that.

Posted by: IC - #FJB at September 11, 2024 04:41 PM (YiKO5)

Same here as well. I got about 25 minutes in and could not listen any more. Grating and annoying.

Posted by: DaisyB at September 11, 2024 04:51 PM (AbL8c)

147 To have listened to the debaters is to have realized that not only would Red Kammie put boots on our necks, but we'd have to endure her nasal and obnoxious voice while suffering that indignity.

The nightmare then: A boot in the face forever

The nightmare now: A high hell in the face forever

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2024 04:51 PM (oZhjI)

148 Biden finally found a pack of kids he knew better than to try to sniff.

https://tinyurl.com/mrshydta

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at September 11, 2024 04:51 PM (Y8lzz)

149 Dead cat bounce is the way to make them tender -average Haitian

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 11, 2024 04:51 PM (tKS+g)

150 When I press my hand on the burner it hurts like hell. When I did it again it STILL hurt.

Posted by: Undecided Voter at September 11, 2024 04:51 PM (1FWWQ)

151 alpha males are abrasive (at times) and braggarts (almost always). But they are the ones who get things done and move civilizations forward.


People who get things, truly get things done not take credit, are not at all what you describe. People who take credit for doing nothing, that’s who you’re describing.

Posted by: Bitch please at September 11, 2024 04:52 PM (KF2Wj)

152 @137

>>Is it me or is it hard to take Australians seriously even when they're being serious?

It's the ridiculous accent.

Whenever I hear an Aussie, I just picture a Quokka head and that silly prattle coming out of their throat holes.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 11, 2024 04:52 PM (XV/Pl)

153 Joe Mannix. He's got a new job.
Posted by: Eeyore

Oh. Well, that's good, then.
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 11, 2024 04:48 PM (iI7+d)

======

How tough can onboarding be?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


Onboarding??? We thought you said waterboarding!
Posted by: Joe Mannix's coworkers

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 11, 2024 04:52 PM (eHh36)

154 Americans generally hate an asshole but can handle a braggart who can back it up.

That's likely the extent of the debate movement last night.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 11, 2024 04:52 PM (aPY1X)

155 109 I mentioned this in an earlier thread, but I was only listening to the debate, not watching, and it heightened my awareness of her AWFUL voice. My husband asked "has she always been that nasally?" Yes, I think so, but she sounded extra bad last night.

i thought she was affecting an accent that i didn't recognize

Posted by: anachronda at September 11, 2024 04:52 PM (oY6Yp)

156 134 125
Joe Mannix. He's got a new job.
Posted by: Eeyore

Oh. Well, that's good, then.
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 11, 2024 04:48 PM (iI7+d)

======

How tough can onboarding be?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 11, 2024 04:49 PM (GBKbO)
______
I guess that's a new vogue business term. The real money out there is for consultants. It just amounts to scamming corporate Poo Bahs, who are suckers for whatever shit you make up.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 11, 2024 04:53 PM (1bNHn)

157 142 If you're walking into a new company with an IT infrastructure that started 25 or 30 years ago, it takes a bit.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 11, 2024 04:51 PM (tT6L1)

=======

This is exactly what I walked into with my current job.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 11, 2024 04:53 PM (GBKbO)

158 Kammie came off like a nervous pinch-faced scold, lying her ass off and making faces like a jr hi school idiot on the rag. She gave scrunts a bad name.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at September 11, 2024 04:53 PM (UsZOO)

159 Conventional wisdom is that if you are currently an undecided voter, you are functionally retarded...and some are difunctionally retarded. The former are absent minded idiots. The latter are window licking malcontents.

Posted by: Orson at September 11, 2024 04:50 PM (dIske)

And yet they decide elections. You have to play the game you are given. I am forever grateful that Trump knows that.

And back when I said he was going to beat Hillary, long ago but still relevant, I was insulted to oblivion by people who said no, he's working for Hillary, he's a liar, nobody likes him, we need Ted Cruz, he would destroy her. The ones full of insults skulked off the second he won.

Posted by: ... at September 11, 2024 04:53 PM (U/CEs)

160 Poll 9/4-6 in MI.
Tied.
Trump up 55 to 30 among independents.

Biden was up an average of 7.6 on 9-11-2020

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 11, 2024 04:53 PM (+4IV9)

161 152 @137

>>Is it me or is it hard to take Australians seriously even when they're being serious?

It's the ridiculous accent.

Whenever I hear an Aussie, I just picture a Quokka head and that silly prattle coming out of their throat holes.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 11, 2024 04:52 PM (XV/Pl)

I've been crushing Ozzy Man videos on YouTube lately.

I can't tell whether he's actually funny or just Australian.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 11, 2024 04:53 PM (KbCG3)

162 It would have been political malpractice to do anything else, and Trump fell for it.
Posted by: Archimedes

"Political malpractice?" Dude, what planet do you live on? How is that even a legitimate concept?

But then, Trump's not in your "Poor, poor, pitiful Ukraine" camp.

I'm gonna go put on my orange Trump cult robe and fez now. Back later.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 11, 2024 04:53 PM (v6JzV)

163 Yeah, I'm abrasive, the fvck you doing about it?

You think I''m some goombah from Bensonhurst?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 11, 2024 04:53 PM (RIvkX)

164 To me she came off as a nasty beyotch...She made unpleasant faces and her voice is irritating

Posted by: It's me donna at September 11, 2024 04:38 PM (IyPmt)

Same. I am a woman and I found it annoying, must have been worst for the men. not the soi boys, they probably liked that.

Demean me harder Momala!
Posted by: Soi Boy
+++
I can't see how any man with a testosterone level above zero could ever vote for her. She reminds me of a super bitch school teacher I had back in 9th grade. That was 50 years ago and I still haven't forgotten how much I hated her.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at September 11, 2024 04:54 PM (Lo97M)

165 155 109 I mentioned this in an earlier thread, but I was only listening to the debate, not watching, and it heightened my awareness of her AWFUL voice. My husband asked "has she always been that nasally?" Yes, I think so, but she sounded extra bad last night.

i thought she was affecting an accent that i didn't recognize
Posted by: anachronda at September 11, 2024 04:52 PM (oY6Yp


Trump should have asked where he black southern accent was last night.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 11, 2024 04:55 PM (aPY1X)

166 Trump debated the moderators while Harris sat back rubbing the bean
Posted by: gKWVE

I thought it was called "flicking." And doesn't she have a midget strapped to her thigh to do that?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

LIES!

Posted by: Robert Reich at September 11, 2024 04:55 PM (ze+W2)

167 I think a lot of "undecided" voters are just lonely people who like the attention.

Posted by: Dummies at September 11, 2024 04:55 PM (6rN9f)

168 160 Poll 9/4-6 in MI.
Tied.
Trump up 55 to 30 among independents.

Biden was up an average of 7.6 on 9-11-2020
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 11, 2024 04:53 PM (+4IV9)

========

As I keep noting:

Kamala is running anywhere from 3-12 points behind Biden.

And Biden "won" by 3.5...after months of mail in ballot cheating followed by six states shutting down ballot counting in the middle of the night to ballot box stuff like Tammany Hall to barely get him a win.

The Democrats have been pulling back on the swinging pendulum since 2011. 2016 was a slip, but they just retightened their grip. There can be no consequences to this at all.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 11, 2024 04:55 PM (GBKbO)

169 Kamala is the Meghan Markle of politicians.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 11, 2024 04:55 PM (nFx0I)

170 I've been crushing Ozzy Man videos on YouTube lately.

I can't tell whether he's actually funny or just Australian.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer


It's weird. His picture doesn't match the voice.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 11, 2024 04:55 PM (eHh36)

171
The only time I took an Australian seriously or saw one as a menace was when watching Wolf Creek, but, even then, "Mick" was kind of a goofball.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 11, 2024 04:55 PM (iI7+d)

172 I'm gonna go put on my orange Trump cult robe and fez now. Back later.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

You guys get fez’s? Where’s the membership link?

Posted by: Kratwurst at September 11, 2024 04:56 PM (zXpmx)

173 >>I can't tell whether he's actually funny or just Australian.


There are some aquarium / fish youtubers from Australia and laugh every time they have to say algae.

'Al-ghee'

Posted by: garrett at September 11, 2024 04:56 PM (ZLCNA)

174 And yes I remember many names who did stick around. They were generally less personally insulting beforehand. Hated Trump but that's fine.

Despite the DeSantis truthers to the contrary, we don't have anyone else that could do this. Sorry.

Posted by: ... at September 11, 2024 04:56 PM (U/CEs)

175 Yes, she has always talked through her nose that way. It gets worse when she's mad.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 11, 2024 04:56 PM (RIvkX)

176 145 It's not true. It doesn't describe most of the Founders, for instance. Or the men who fought the Civil War. Not the WWI generation, either, or WWII. Some were, sure, but the leaders mostly weren't.
Posted by: Eeyore at September 11, 2024 04:48 PM (1bNHn)

Don't know where you read that, but you might want to reevaluate that statement. Patton. McArthur. Even Ike, for heaven's sake. And if you think the Adams' were mild-mannered, you haven't read what they wrote. Hell, Ben Franklin was an inveterate horn dog. Hookers all the time.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at September 11, 2024 04:51 PM (UsZOO)
_______
You're conflating different character traits. Even Patton was well mannered among women. Sure, they were tough among men. But Trump's behavior - which is fairly common now - is a post WWII, and post feminist development.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 11, 2024 04:56 PM (1bNHn)

177 Last night was a riot of trolls though...

Posted by: It's me donna at September 11, 2024 04:56 PM (IyPmt)

178 ULTRA MAGA PARTY 👑 @MaxEvansUMP
Australia's Sky News gives the most honest review of the Kamala/Trump debate you will ever see

https://tinyurl.com/4actphvp
1:24 minutes
Posted by: andycanuck s

They are hilarious! We need some levity.

Posted by: Cheri at September 11, 2024 04:57 PM (oiNtH)

179 The only thing anyone will remember about this debate in a few days is that Haitians are eating cats in Ohio. That accrues to Trump's benefit.

Tay-Tay stealing the thunder and then calling herself a cat lady mixed the Harris Won message and spread Trump's message about unchecked immigration, Streisand Effect style. Double own goal.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 11, 2024 04:57 PM (r5tfK)

180 "Political malpractice?" Dude, what planet do you live on? How is that even a legitimate concept?

But then, Trump's not in your "Poor, poor, pitiful Ukraine" camp.

I'm gonna go put on my orange Trump cult robe and fez now. Back later.


Dude. Take a breath. All I said was that a campaign professional uses any perceived weakness in his opponent.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 11, 2024 04:57 PM (xCA6C)

181 126 Kamala was like an actress, an unskilled one, acting the part of Lady Cool President.

screen test hoping for a role in the next round of the space lesbian saga?

Posted by: anachronda at September 11, 2024 04:57 PM (oY6Yp)

182 >> Kamala is running anywhere from 3-12 points behind Biden.
And Biden "won" by 3.5...after months of mail in ballot cheating followed by six states shutting down ballot counting in the middle of the night to ballot box stuff like Tammany Hall to barely get him a win.
———
Assuming their numbers are solid, Rich Baris and Robert Barnes keep pointing out that The Drunk is polling substantially worse than the Biden corpse was at this point in 2020.

Posted by: electronic means at September 11, 2024 04:57 PM (PG9nJ)

183 170 I've been crushing Ozzy Man videos on YouTube lately.

I can't tell whether he's actually funny or just Australian.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer


It's weird. His picture doesn't match the voice.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 11, 2024 04:55 PM (eHh36)

Not at all. But I laugh that he calls all women "Sheilas".

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 11, 2024 04:57 PM (KbCG3)

184 I’m conflicted about all of this after-market advice to Trump. On the one hand, I tend to agree with it. In the other, it’s basically “Trump should have known that the moderators would take Kamala’s side. He also should have made his best points at the beginning, giving the moderators more time to counter them.”

There was something odd I noticed last night. Trump went after Muir often and hard. But he not only laid off Lindsey Davis, he helped her out against Kamala toward the end! There was one point where Davis was trying to ask a question, and Kamala Harris was trying to run over her. Trump just calmly said something on the order of “go ahead, Lindsey” and Davis grabbed onto that like it was a life preserver. Harris then just sort of petered out (pun not intended but accepted).

It was a bit odd. It was as if he were in control despite other appearances.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 11, 2024 04:58 PM (olroh)

185 169 Kamala is the Meghan Markle of politicians.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 11, 2024 04:55 PM (nFx0I)

Do any men actually find either one of those idiots attractive? I can't imagine.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at September 11, 2024 04:58 PM (UsZOO)

186 This is exactly what I walked into with my current job.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 11, 2024 04:53 PM (GBKbO)
-----------

Really? What sort of stuff do you handle?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 11, 2024 04:59 PM (tT6L1)

187 Yes, she has always talked through her nose that way. It gets worse when she's mad.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

I am very disappointed that she didn't roll out her blackccent last night. I fell cheated.

Posted by: Cheri at September 11, 2024 04:59 PM (oiNtH)

188 You're conflating different character traits. Even Patton was well mannered among women. Sure, they were tough among men. But Trump's behavior - which is fairly common now - is a post WWII, and post feminist development.

Ahem perhaps for some of my esteemed colleagues but as for myself, well, you'd be surprised how many French noblewomen will do anything for a man such as myself.

Oh the sacrifices I make for my country. Again Duchess? Well...duty calls my friends.

Posted by: Ben Franklin at September 11, 2024 04:59 PM (oZhjI)

189 182 Assuming their numbers are solid, Rich Baris and Robert Barnes keep pointing out that The Drunk is polling substantially worse than the Biden corpse was at this point in 2020.
Posted by: electronic means at September 11, 2024 04:57 PM (PG9nJ)

======

Something like 40% of the late summer/early autumn polls in 2020 had Biden up in double digits.

Some were as high as 18 points.

Kamala's biggest polling "win" has been about 7.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 11, 2024 04:59 PM (GBKbO)

190 He is abrasive, and a braggart. A common type where he's from - where I grew up, so I'm used to it. But many people flat out don't like New Yorkers. That doesn't puzzle me. What does is how many New Yorkers take that attitude.
Posted by: Eyeore

--

Abrasive types aren't all that big on self-reflection.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at September 11, 2024 04:59 PM (gdmjx)

191 I'm gonna go put on my orange Trump cult robe and fez now. Back later.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 11, 2024 04:53 PM (v6JzV)

You got a Fez? Damn, where can I get one. Fezzs are cool as eff!

Posted by: I'll choose a new nick later-Certified Dangerous Radical at September 11, 2024 04:59 PM (89Sog)

192 She kind of sounded like Fran Drescher as the Nanny

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 11, 2024 04:59 PM (NtVYv)

193 Tay-Tay stealing the thunder and then calling herself a cat lady mixed the Harris Won message and spread Trump's message about unchecked immigration, Streisand Effect style. Double own goal.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 11, 2024 04:57 PM (r5tfK


Truth

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 11, 2024 04:59 PM (aPY1X)

194 Did see someone yesterday I think congratulations Joe ons new job, no idea what it is but then I have no idea what 99% of you people do.

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2024 04:59 PM (fwDg9)

195 I think most people saw how utterly atrocious the "moderators" were...

Posted by: It's me donna at September 11, 2024 04:59 PM (IyPmt)

196 They are hilarious! We need some levity.
Posted by: Cheri at September 11, 2024 04:57 PM (oiNtH)

They have other funny videos

Posted by: ... at September 11, 2024 05:00 PM (U/CEs)

197 187 Yes, she has always talked through her nose that way. It gets worse when she's mad.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

I am very disappointed that she didn't roll out her blackccent last night. I fell cheated.
Posted by: Cheri at September 11, 2024 04:59 PM (oiNtH)

I thought I heard it once, mid-sentence, and I was on the AoSHq debate threads and started to type that up and then poof! it was gone.

Posted by: m at September 11, 2024 05:00 PM (64Zez)

198 It's not true. It doesn't describe most of the Founders, for instance. Or the men who fought the Civil War. Not the WWI generation, either, or WWII. Some were, sure, but the leaders mostly weren't.

Huh? That may be the most off-base take I've seen all day.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 11, 2024 05:00 PM (mH6SG)

199 She didn't answer several key questions. Any restrictions on abortion? I want Roe v. Wade back. There were more. Trump didn't try to pin her down, either

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at September 11, 2024 05:00 PM (yffD/)

200 Michael Steele, former RNC chair and present leftist lap dog says Harris spanked Trump's butt. The things people say for money

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 11, 2024 05:00 PM (tKS+g)

201 I didn't watch the debate. I am beyond tired of them both not giving direct answers to direct questions. I don't know if this is the advice he's being given or it's just Trump. I'm sure the economy would improve some and he'd do something to limit illegal immigration. I just think our problems are bigger than that. If we can't do something about countries dropping the dollar and applying for brics other than more sanctions or tariffs, our dollar is going to be nearly worthless. How many of the nato nations have a large supply of natural resources? The ones that do are applying to join brics. Those are the questions I want answered.

Posted by: ryukyu at September 11, 2024 05:01 PM (s68pH)

202 >>Did see someone yesterday I think congratulations Joe ons new job, no idea what it is but then I have no idea what 99% of you people do.


I can't speak for others, but as for myself:

Your Mom.

Posted by: garrett at September 11, 2024 05:01 PM (ZLCNA)

203 Michael Steele, former RNC chair and present leftist lap dog says Harris spanked Trump's butt. The things people say for money

In his case, he might believe it.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 11, 2024 05:01 PM (xCA6C)

204 Michael Steele, former RNC chair and present leftist lap dog says Harris spanked Trump's butt. The things people say for money

Hey Mikey if you need a little extra scratch to make it through the month let me know

Posted by: Ed Buck at September 11, 2024 05:01 PM (oZhjI)

205 Fezzs are cool as eff!

I always wanted a fez.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 11, 2024 05:02 PM (olroh)

206 202 >>Did see someone yesterday I think congratulations Joe ons new job, no idea what it is but then I have no idea what 99% of you people do.


I can't speak for others, but as for myself:

Your Mom.
Posted by: garrett at September 11, 2024 05:01 PM (ZLCNA)

GARRETT you go sit in the corner.

Posted by: m at September 11, 2024 05:02 PM (64Zez)

207 >>I'm gonna go put on my orange Trump cult robe and fez now.
———
THE GUYS GET FEZES!

Posted by: electronic means at September 11, 2024 05:02 PM (PG9nJ)

208 "Do any men actually find either one of those idiots attractive? I can't imagine."

Both would be in an extreme quadrant in the Hot / Crazy matrix.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 11, 2024 05:02 PM (nFx0I)

209 Sorry. I can't resist a good 'Your Mom' joke.

And you put that one on the tee, Skip.

Posted by: garrett at September 11, 2024 05:02 PM (ZLCNA)

210 84
Who's the one who posts "busty blond" pics? Is he MIA?
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 11, 2024 04:39 PM (iI7+d)
________
Joe Mannix. He's got a new job.
Posted by: Eeyore
.....

on the police force, no doubt.

Posted by: wth at September 11, 2024 05:02 PM (v0R5T)

211 185 "Do any men actually find either one of those idiots attractive? I can't imagine."

From a certain viewpoint, Yes!

-Willie Brown

Posted by: Dad of Six at September 11, 2024 05:02 PM (VpZau)

212 I do not understand the fez. It's like an emasculated fedora.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2024 05:02 PM (PDf99)

213 @194

>>Did see someone yesterday I think congratulations Joe ons new job, no idea what it is but then I have no idea what 99% of you people do.

He got a job at a High Fidelity Stereo Shop, he's going to be preforming the TK421 upgrades, right there in the store.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 11, 2024 05:02 PM (XV/Pl)

214
I always wanted a fez.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 11, 2024 05:02 PM (olroh)

I'm in the office and there is a Fez on the bookcase... Husbands a Shriner

Posted by: It's me donna at September 11, 2024 05:02 PM (IyPmt)

215 I haven't seen this mentioned, but a big point for me:

Trump was very passionate about what is happening to the country. Disgusted and upset. This is the reality most people see about what the Dems have done.

Harris was all happy talk, about her optimism, but that is like the detergent commercial telling you how happy your family will be with their new detergent while the reality is we live in a pigsty.

I think people *unaffected* by the inflation, crime, cultural enrichment, might prefer Harris's talk. But most voters live in the reality of what she has done and prefer someone disgusted with it.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 11, 2024 05:02 PM (UdPQQ)

216 Yes, she has always talked through her nose that way. It gets worse when she's mad.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

So, like Alice the Goon?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Telling War Stories at September 11, 2024 05:02 PM (Ad8y9)

217
Kamala is cut from the same mold. Women who doubt themselves and how they got as far as they did so they overcorrect by being bitchy and an asshole.
Posted by: AlaBAMA


Both women rose to where they were without having accomplished anything substantial themselves, but rather because they catered to the needs of powerful men whose sexual appetites rendered the two women to be accomplices as the men gathered their power.

In Hillary's case, she supported and enabled a serial sexual predator to exercise his predations. In Ted Kammie's case, she served as the compliant mistress for a married man. Take away those two "accomplishments", and what else had either of them ever done that would in any way count as an accomplishment?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 11, 2024 05:03 PM (xG4kz)

218 but then I have no idea what 99% of you people do.
Posted by: Skip

Well, I mostly read this blog. Hope that clears everything up.

Posted by: Kratwurst at September 11, 2024 05:03 PM (zXpmx)

219 Fezzs are cool as eff!

I always wanted a fez.


Do you really want a fez, or do you just like saying fez?

Posted by: Archimedes at September 11, 2024 05:03 PM (xCA6C)

220 She kind of sounded like Fran Drescher as the Nanny
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway

*Squirt*

Posted by: Doug Emhoff at September 11, 2024 05:03 PM (ze+W2)

221 I like fezes. I could keep an emergency cupcake in there.

Posted by: The Tassel Is Boss at September 11, 2024 05:03 PM (6rN9f)

222 i thought she was affecting an accent that i didn't recognize
Posted by: anachronda at September 11, 2024 04:52 PM (oY6Yp)

I have never been able to place her accent. It's definitely not California. Caesar's Wife thinks she's speaking some combination of upper-class Jamaican and Indian accents.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 11, 2024 05:04 PM (r5tfK)

223 Do you really want a fez, or do you just like saying fez?

You got me.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 11, 2024 05:04 PM (olroh)

224 Ain't never gonna do it without my fez on.....

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at September 11, 2024 05:04 PM (UsZOO)

225 I do not understand the fez. It's like an emasculated fedora.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2024 05:02 PM (PDf99)

Flip it over and it becomes a champagne bucket.

Handy- dandy

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Telling War Stories at September 11, 2024 05:04 PM (Ad8y9)

226 Trump was very passionate about what is happening to the country. Disgusted and upset. This is the reality most people see about what the Dems have done.

Harris was all happy talk, about her optimism, but that is like the detergent commercial telling you how happy your family will be with their new detergent while the reality is we live in a pigsty.

I think people *unaffected* by the inflation, crime, cultural enrichment, might prefer Harris's talk. But most voters live in the reality of what she has done and prefer someone disgusted with it.


That's a really excellent point.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 11, 2024 05:04 PM (xCA6C)

227 I'm in the office and there is a Fez on the bookcase... Husbands a Shriner

What's the difference between a Freemason and a Shriner ? About a quart.

Posted by: Call It What It Is at September 11, 2024 05:04 PM (6FEVY)

228 Motorboating consultants??

Sign me up!

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 11, 2024 05:04 PM (CEzQx)

229 We're talking hats? Because if we are, I'm brimming with ideas about hats.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 11, 2024 05:05 PM (tT6L1)

230 "Reuters Panel of 10 Undecided Voters Agree That Kamala Harris Won the Debate.
Six out of the Ten Say They're Now Voting for Trump."


Not logical.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 11, 2024 05:05 PM (QNSds)

231 but then I have no idea what 99% of you people do.
Posted by: Skip

Mostly irritate and creep out women judging by their sneers, eyerolls and exasperation when I greet them.

Posted by: ... at September 11, 2024 05:05 PM (U/CEs)

232 I kind of liked Trump being angry and annoyed. The current state of our country is nothing to be joyful and gleeful about. But if he does another debate, I hope he learned from this one.

Posted by: IC - #FJB at September 11, 2024 05:05 PM (YiKO5)

233 222 i thought she was affecting an accent that i didn't recognize
Posted by: anachronda at September 11, 2024 04:52 PM (oY6Yp)

I have never been able to place her accent. It's definitely not California. Caesar's Wife thinks she's speaking some combination of upper-class Jamaican and Indian accents.


jamaicanadian perhaps?

Posted by: anachronda at September 11, 2024 05:05 PM (oY6Yp)

234 What's the difference between a Freemason and a Shriner ? About a quart.

Shriners drive little cars

Freemasons rule big countries

Posted by: Some Conspiracy theorist at September 11, 2024 05:05 PM (oZhjI)

235 >> We're talking hats? Because if we are, I'm brimming with ideas about hats.
———
I suggest we block those ideas.

Posted by: electronic means at September 11, 2024 05:05 PM (PG9nJ)

236 "Never going to do it without the Fez on"

Steely Dan talking about condoms.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 11, 2024 05:06 PM (nFx0I)

237 Fezzes are cool!

Posted by: The Eleventh Doctor at September 11, 2024 05:06 PM (7fElN)

238 Kamala "won" because she didn't do her usual word salad. But I agree that the smirking was obnoxious.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at September 11, 2024 05:06 PM (r4t+n)

239 233 222 i thought she was affecting an accent that i didn't recognize
Posted by: anachronda at September 11, 2024 04:52 PM (oY6Yp)

I have never been able to place her accent. It's definitely not California. Caesar's Wife thinks she's speaking some combination of upper-class Jamaican and Indian accents.

jamaicanadian perhaps?
Posted by: anachronda at September 11, 2024 05:05 PM (oY6Yp)

Nice!

Posted by: m at September 11, 2024 05:06 PM (64Zez)

240 invoking thev "5 o'clock somewhere" clause to suck down a Leinie while I'm waiting for everything to come to a boil for canning.

51 cloves of garlic in this batch of spag sauce! woohoo!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at September 11, 2024 05:06 PM (UWgy2)

241 Not logical.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 11, 2024 05:05 PM (QNSds)

It's not polite to say you like Trump or that he is good at anything, but they were there to discuss their vote. Good chance the "undecided" is voting Trump too.

Posted by: ... at September 11, 2024 05:06 PM (U/CEs)

242 This supports my comment earlier today that this wasn’t a binary ‘win or lose” debate. Each candidate has different goals and demographics to appeal to. Trump may have “lost” in some sense, but he seems to have emerged with an improved position in the election.

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 11, 2024 05:06 PM (xm7wp)

243 Posted by: Piper at September 11, 2024 04:49 PM (pRpzT)

Piper, no apology necessary. Whenever it's convenient for you to reply is good for me.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 11, 2024 05:07 PM (v6JzV)

244 jamaicanadian perhaps?
Posted by: anachronda at September 11, 2024 05:05 PM (oY6Yp)

Eh Mon

Posted by: It's me donna at September 11, 2024 05:07 PM (IyPmt)

245 Fezzes are cool!
Posted by: The Eleventh Doctor

I said good day!

Posted by: Fez at September 11, 2024 05:07 PM (ygiXv)

246 jamaicanadian perhaps?

When she has breakfast, does it include jamaicanadian bacon?

Posted by: Archimedes at September 11, 2024 05:07 PM (xCA6C)

247 8 David Chalian and Brian Stelter are two of the sexiest journalists on Cable News.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 11, 2024 04:22 PM (PiwSw)


Chalian looks like Tater with a wig.

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at September 11, 2024 05:07 PM (RXJdG)

248 Ah Trump… voted for him in 16 because Not-Hillary, voted for him in 20 because accomplishments, vote for him in 24 because of past accomplishments, and Not-Harris… anyone else here voting for the same reasons??

Posted by: tubal at September 11, 2024 05:07 PM (PCK5/)

249 What does is how many New Yorkers take that attitude.
Posted by: Eyeore

If you can make it there. you can make it anywhere.

Posted by: Frank S. at September 11, 2024 05:07 PM (r5tfK)

250 Kamala is cut from the same mold. Women who doubt themselves and how they got as far as they did so they overcorrect by being bitchy and an asshole.
Posted by: AlaBAMA

-

A lot of it is cosplaying men. They think men behave a certain way and they try to mimic it so that they, too, can have what that man achieves with his assertiveness.

Sadly it doesn't translate well because men and women are different.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie at September 11, 2024 05:08 PM (656Gl)

251 246 jamaicanadian perhaps?

When she has breakfast, does it include jamaicanadian bacon?


i thought they called it jamaiback bacon

Posted by: anachronda at September 11, 2024 05:08 PM (oY6Yp)

252 Kamala also spent part of her childhood in Canada, eh?
Maybe that’s mixed into her accent, too.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 11, 2024 05:08 PM (/q7Zd)

253 Trump is rebranding the R party. Polls will miss the implications.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 11, 2024 05:08 PM (nFx0I)

254 I grew up as a poor 35% Black Bitch in San Fran and you zipperheads out in Middle Class land are flaming, HIV Infected, Cow Cock Sucking Homo Losers if you vote for Trump....

Trump believes in helping Racist and Homo-Hating Billionaires like Elon Musk which came from racist South America!!!!!

Posted by: Kamal Harris at September 11, 2024 05:08 PM (PYJJG)

255 Gutfeld always nails it! His opening statements just are awesome. Pure poetry.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 11, 2024 05:08 PM (NpAcC)

256 Top expand on #215

Imagine you show up at the Boeing BOD and have to pick a CEO. Two senior VPs show up -- one is all talk about accounting tricks, empowering employees, ... you know all the buzzwords, why they give them all a workout.

The other is disgusted and says that the company is failing and we have to roll back the damaging policies and fix things. They are visibly upset at the failures and want it to stop, *and* they have a record of having been successful running things in the past.

Easy choice.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 11, 2024 05:09 PM (UdPQQ)

257 It's not polite to say you like Trump or that he is good at anything, but they were there to discuss their vote. Good chance the "undecided" is voting Trump too.
Posted by: ...

One must always preface their praise of his position or one's intention to vote for the Bad Orange Man by stating he or she dislikes him.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at September 11, 2024 05:09 PM (ygiXv)

258 I thought the talking at him, which she did for 65% or more of it, was a good cheap stage tactic they deployed well.

He beats her on talking to the camera and she has zero gravitas, so they decided to have her do the disappointed mother thing which is an archetype we naturally identify with.

Plus it's the real Kamala. All she likely does in her whole life is scold and smirk and lie, so they weaponized it.

Posted by: ... at September 11, 2024 05:09 PM (U/CEs)

259 We're talking hats? Because if we are, I'm brimming with ideas about hats.
———
I suggest we block those ideas.
Posted by: electronic means at September 11, 2024 05:05 PM (PG9nJ)

------------------------

Really? Because I felt there is no way we can cap this idea, once it takes off.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 11, 2024 05:09 PM (tT6L1)

260
What's the difference between a Freemason and a Shriner ?


You must already be a Freemason in order to become a Shriner, which is, in some sense, Freemasonry's "service to others" bailiwick.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 11, 2024 05:09 PM (xG4kz)

261 jamaicanadian perhaps?

I think this is Mark Steyn’s take. He keeps calling her a “Montreal schoolgirl”. (If I remember right he also grew up in Montreal.)

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 11, 2024 05:10 PM (olroh)

262 Late, I know, but the Democrats crowing about getting the Cheneys' endorsements kinda proves they don't know what conservatives actually think.

They only know that the media tells them conservatives think.

and Kammi with her "late great John McCain" shows how deep in the media bubble she is.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 11, 2024 05:10 PM (+4IV9)

263 So, like Alice the Goon?
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Telling War Stories at September 11, 2024 05:02 PM (Ad8y9)


Alice was taller, and I think she had hairier forearms. She also had a decent job working for the Sea Witch.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 11, 2024 05:10 PM (D7oie)

264 Harris is already losing ground with black and hispanic men. Her affectations last night aren't going to help with them. Also agree with the point about voters being pissed off, and so is Trump. Right track-wrong track is something like 25-75. The fact she's up their baiting, trolling, smirking, and lying her ass off about things are great and she's going to make them better just isn't going to fly.

Posted by: the dandy at September 11, 2024 05:10 PM (L+5ng)

265
One must always preface their praise of his position or one's intention to vote for the Bad Orange Man by stating he or she dislikes him.
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at September 11, 2024 05:09 PM (ygiXv

Yes! My condolences by the way, hon. Prayers are up for all.

Posted by: ... at September 11, 2024 05:10 PM (U/CEs)

266 Fez are a good place to keep your pet rodent.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 11, 2024 05:11 PM (UdPQQ)

267 Nah, Kamala is not cosplaying men, she’s straight up know it all, Uber-b$tch corporate Director.

I have worked with women like het, they like to terrorize their staff - something we’ve heard Kamala likes to do.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 11, 2024 05:11 PM (GNi1e)

268 Kamala in charge = "What can be, unburdened by what has been".

Maoism or Year Zero - something like that.

Posted by: KT at September 11, 2024 05:11 PM (xekrU)

269 Major Hoople was a Fez wearer… seemed like a GoPe guy..

Posted by: tubal at September 11, 2024 05:12 PM (PCK5/)

270 The commies are being backed into the corner. Beware!

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 11, 2024 05:12 PM (/U5Yz)

271 I would agree with Ace that the sidebar song is obscure. And gayer than a male Taylor Swift fan.

Posted by: Wally at September 11, 2024 05:12 PM (hqVaF)

272 This supports my comment earlier today that this wasn’t a binary ‘win or lose” debate. Each candidate has different goals and demographics to appeal to. Trump may have “lost” in some sense, but he seems to have emerged with an improved position in the election. Posted by: Elric Blade at September 11, 2024 05:06 PM (xm7wp)

This. Trump has been on television his entire adult life. He produced and starred in a hit TV show. This was his 8th debate. He didn't do exactly what I would have done, but I have to presume he knows what he's doing. He was speaking to persuadable voters, not to anyone else.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 11, 2024 05:12 PM (r5tfK)

273 Trump was very passionate about what is happening to the country. Disgusted and upset. This is the reality most people see about what the Dems have done.

Harris was all happy talk, about her optimism, but that is like the detergent commercial telling you how happy your family will be with their new detergent while the reality is we live in a pigsty.

I think people *unaffected* by the inflation, crime, cultural enrichment, might prefer Harris's talk. But most voters live in the reality of what she has done and prefer someone disgusted with it.
--
Yup.
Kammi: We're gonna do such wonderful, wonderful things.
Public: Bitch, when I win the lotto, imma gonna eat steak too! But right now, I need money for gas.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 11, 2024 05:12 PM (+4IV9)

274 Dude. Take a breath. All I said was that a campaign professional uses any perceived weakness in his opponent.

Posted by: Archimedes

Apologies, Arch. I'm all torqued up about an in-person job interview tomorrow, so I was letting off some steam. That's why I included my Trump cult joke at the end, to diffuse some of the tension.

I still enjoy discussing stuff with you, even when we disagree.

I once saw a quotation that went "I never learned anything from a man who agreed with me." I agree with that.

Cheers.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 11, 2024 05:12 PM (v6JzV)

275 She brought up Trump felon and convicted sexual assaulter... I think that was an opening for Trump to bring up Willie Brown...

Posted by: It's me donna at September 11, 2024 05:12 PM (IyPmt)

276 We're talking hats? Because if we are, I'm brimming with ideas about hats.
———
I suggest we block those ideas.
Posted by: electronic means at September 11, 2024 05:05 PM (PG9nJ)
---
***Aluminum foil has entered the chat...***

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 11, 2024 05:12 PM (7fElN)

277
and Kammi with her "late great John McCain" shows how deep in the media bubble she is.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 11, 2024 05:10 PM (+4IV9)

No. That shit resonates with low-fo's who think "Oh yeah Ive heard of that guy! He supports her?? Wow that really means something."

Low fo's are super proud when they have heard of someone. It reassures them they are knowledgeable people making a solid political decision
.
Thank God Trump works on the same level to the same people.

Posted by: ... at September 11, 2024 05:13 PM (U/CEs)

278 >>Really? Because I felt there is no way we can cap this idea, once it takes off.
———
Well, I suppose we could see which idea finishes first, like horses in a derby.

Posted by: electronic means at September 11, 2024 05:13 PM (PG9nJ)

279 Mostly irritate and creep out women judging by their sneers, eyerolls and exasperation when I greet them.
Posted by: ...

My Pop, God rest his soul, always counseled - "Go with your strengths."

Posted by: Tonypete at September 11, 2024 05:13 PM (WXNFJ)

280 BREAKING: Ann Coulter is back on the Trump train.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 11, 2024 05:14 PM (/U5Yz)

281 8 David Chalian and Brian Stelter are two of the sexiest journalists on Cable News.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 11, 2024 04:22 PM (PiwSw)



Brian Stelter is a sex machine.

https://youtu.be/4Qqendp1kLE?si=gvrCP6mi1Tf5o5DH

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 11, 2024 05:14 PM (sL6Xd)

282 BREAKING: Ann Coulter is back on the Trump train.

I don't want her

Posted by: It's me donna at September 11, 2024 05:14 PM (IyPmt)

283 I believe one of the opportunities Trump missed last night was asking her when her next interview will be and when she'll hold her first press conference. And how many of each she'll commit to doing between now and the election. I'm sure she had a comeback but would it have worked with undecideds?

Posted by: Gref at September 11, 2024 05:14 PM (aBgBM)

284 280 BREAKING: Ann Coulter is back on the Trump train.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 11, 2024 05:14 PM (/U5Yz)


Look at MEEEE!!

Posted by: Ann Coulter at September 11, 2024 05:15 PM (gKWVE)

285 I suggest we block those ideas.
Posted by: electronic means at September 11, 2024 05:05 PM (PG9nJ)
---
***Aluminum foil has entered the chat...***
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 11, 2024 05:12 PM (7fElN)


In the past I felt differently.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 11, 2024 05:15 PM (D7oie)

286 Her two worst moments were refusing to say how late-term is too late on abortion, and the exaggerated mirth when Trump talked about immigrants terrorizing small towns.


That was ugly. All the pretending to care was erased in those two moments. First one, she was wayyyyy too passionate about killing babies. Second one, she was laughing at those poor citizens - Trump was recounting their stories.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 11, 2024 05:15 PM (TWLYv)

287 282 BREAKING: Ann Coulter is back on the Trump train.

I don't want her
Posted by: It's me donna


Throw Ann from the train?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 11, 2024 05:15 PM (/U5Yz)

288 280 BREAKING: Ann Coulter is back on the Trump train.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 11, 2024 05:14 PM
---

She can ride back in the caboose.

Posted by: Frank Barone at September 11, 2024 05:15 PM (+oR7L)

289 Revolver article on debate makes me feel a bit better.
And as they have dove into is as much as any organization, shame no one asks Harris , who said she was in the Capital but was at the DNC where the Fake bomb plot started and vanished immediately.

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2024 05:15 PM (fwDg9)

290 Why would Trump bother with another “debate”?

Posted by: tubal at September 11, 2024 05:16 PM (PCK5/)

291 >> Ann Coulter is back on the Trump train.
———
“I’m ready for my closeup, Mr. DeMille”

Posted by: electronic means at September 11, 2024 05:16 PM (PG9nJ)

292 200 Michael Steele, former RNC chair and present leftist lap dog says Harris spanked Trump's butt. The things people say for money
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 11, 2024 05:00 PM (tKS+g
He always was a rino.

Posted by: Eromero at September 11, 2024 05:16 PM (LHPAg)

293 Do any men actually find either one of those idiots attractive? I can't imagine.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at September 11, 2024 04:58 PM (UsZOO)
__________________

Not a chance.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 11, 2024 05:16 PM (YqDXo)

294 282 BREAKING: Ann Coulter is back on the Trump train.


/me farts in her direction

Posted by: I'll choose a new nick later-Certified Dangerous Radical at September 11, 2024 05:16 PM (89Sog)

295 BREAKING: Ann Coulter is back on the Trump train.

I don't want her
Posted by: It's me donna at September 11, 2024 05:14 PM (IyPmt)


Use the tools available to you. We can use her as an offensive object, She is good at that.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 11, 2024 05:16 PM (D7oie)

296 Harris is already losing ground with black and hispanic men.
---
False.
Men can get pregnant.
Thus, black and Hispanic men need to know who will protect their right to have an abortion.
Kamala is ahead by 8-10 nationally.

/s/ DU Kiddos with the latest software hotpatch.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 11, 2024 05:16 PM (+4IV9)

297
I stand by my assertion that, in her prosecutorial offices, Red

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 11, 2024 05:16 PM (xG4kz)

298 We need to put a lid on these comments about hats.

Posted by: dantesed at September 11, 2024 05:17 PM (Oy/m2)

299 /me farts in her direction
Posted by: I'll choose a new nick later-Certified Dangerous Radical at September 11, 2024 05:16 PM (89Sog)


That's my shtick.

Posted by: Eric Swalwell at September 11, 2024 05:17 PM (gKWVE)

300 278 Well, I suppose we could see which idea finishes first, like horses in a derby.

trilby > derby

Posted by: mr. ed at September 11, 2024 05:17 PM (oY6Yp)

301 Michael Steele sings "I was DEI, when DEI wasn't cool"

Posted by: Wally at September 11, 2024 05:18 PM (hqVaF)

302 Oh, lookie here.

Ohio AG Dave Yost says his office has received reports of Haitians taking and eating pets.

http://tiny.cc/fenlzz

Posted by: bonhomme at September 11, 2024 05:18 PM (Odg76)

303 Coulter is a idjit for certain but read that article she wrote. Very interesting take about role reversal and the 2016 election.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 11, 2024 05:18 PM (aPY1X)

304 "He was speaking to persuadable voters, not to anyone else.'

Some want a Republican Bill Bradley but that dog won't hunt.

Trump tunes his schtick to reach regular people who don't have the polish of a college education.

Many, including Ace, dismiss him as a dumbass but they're blindly wrong.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 11, 2024 05:18 PM (nFx0I)

305 302 Oh, lookie here.

Ohio AG Dave Yost says his office has received reports of Haitians taking and eating pets.

http://tiny.cc/fenlzz
Posted by: bonhomme at September 11, 2024 05:18 PM (Odg76)

But the city manager said it's not happening.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 11, 2024 05:18 PM (aPY1X)

306 Hmmm, always feel like I am tempting willowing when a post gets this ripe.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2024 05:18 PM (PDf99)

307 Kammie promises to jump-start gazillions of small businesses! Yeah, this country needs a gazilion new nail salons, weed shops, convenience stores, women's clothing resale shops, and fusion vegan restaurants.

Also, remind me. What's the first-year failure rate of new small businesses?

Posted by: Gref at September 11, 2024 05:19 PM (aBgBM)

308 Michael Steele, former RNC chair and present leftist lap dog says Harris spanked Trump's butt. The things people say for money
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 11, 2024 05:00 PM (tKS+g
He always was a rino.
Posted by: Eromero at September 11, 2024 05:16

Maybe he wishes he was the one who got spanked

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at September 11, 2024 05:19 PM (MwLB5)

309 306 Hmmm, always feel like I am tempting willowing when a post gets this ripe.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2024 05:18 PM (PDf99)

Oh no, just continue with yo

Posted by: tubal at September 11, 2024 05:19 PM (PCK5/)

310 I suppose it’s a failing of our nature, not otherwise tempered by faith, that people love to hate. In this election people who hate Trump, love their hate of him more than they love their country , more than they love their friends and family, more than they love even themselves.

Posted by: 7man at September 11, 2024 05:20 PM (HW3+n)

311 We really need something to start a preference cascade against Kamala. Right now it's still close enough to cheat. A major, major gaffe. If she gets just a little drunker than usual and is asked an unscripted question, or maybe has an extra benzo before a state dinner. Just pray the Fates decide to pull the thread that unspools this twisted tapestry.

Posted by: Max Power at September 11, 2024 05:20 PM (q177U)

312 I want a dog
Your chihuahua
When I get back to mon 'partment
I want to smell a puppy roast

Posted by: les port-au-prince boys at September 11, 2024 05:20 PM (gKWVE)

313 "Also, remind me. What's the first-year failure rate of new small businesses?
Posted by: Gref"

$50,000

Posted by: fd at September 11, 2024 05:20 PM (vFG9F)

314 A million new illegals grabbing yard, construction companies

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2024 05:21 PM (fwDg9)

315 >>>But the city manager said it's not happening.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 11, 2024 05:18 PM (aPY1X)

THE PHONE CALL IS COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE!

Posted by: Max Power at September 11, 2024 05:21 PM (q177U)

316 308 Michael Steele, former RNC chair and present leftist lap dog says Harris spanked Trump's butt. The things people say for money
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 11, 2024 05:00 PM (tKS+g
He always was a rino.
Posted by: Eromero at September 11, 2024 05:16
---

Always got the vibe that Michael Steele could easily been caught in a hotel room with Andrew Gillum.

Posted by: Frank Barone at September 11, 2024 05:21 PM (+oR7L)

317 302 Oh, lookie here.

Ohio AG Dave Yost says his office has received reports of Haitians taking and eating pets.

http://tiny.cc/fenlzz
Posted by: bonhomme



This is unpossible! I was told that this is a racist lie by our Betters.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 11, 2024 05:22 PM (sL6Xd)

318 Always got the vibe that Michael Steele could easily been caught in a hotel room with Andrew Gillum.
Posted by: Frank Barone at September 11, 2024 05:21 PM (+oR7L)


Dunno, man. They both look like members of the sub club. Do they flip a coin or what?

Posted by: gKWVE at September 11, 2024 05:23 PM (gKWVE)

319 I think Kilgore was a goon too.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 11, 2024 05:23 PM (D7oie)

320 Who you gonna believe when it comes to criminal activity - a prosecutor, or the guy who makes sure the groundskeepers have an adequate number of rakes?
You crazy conservatives!

Posted by: Wally at September 11, 2024 05:23 PM (hqVaF)

321 Trump tunes his schtick to reach regular people who don't have the polish of a college education. Many, including Ace, dismiss him as a dumbass but they're blindly wrong. Posted by: Ignoramus at September 11, 2024 05:18 PM (nFx0I)

Agreed. I was just having this discussion with someone this morning irl. He's done it for so long that it's the way he talks now, but he knows all the big words. He just chooses to speak simply and plainly in a way that can be understood by the general public. JD Vance speaks as an educated elite, although he communicates very effectively.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 11, 2024 05:24 PM (r5tfK)

322 Michael Steele sings "I was DEI, when DEI wasn't cool"
------
Hot Air's choice for Chairman way back then.

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 11, 2024 05:24 PM (CEzQx)

323
I stand by my assertion that, in her prosecutorial offices, Red Kammie performed purely administrative functions, like negotiating plea deals, play acting as being in the lead at press conferences, and the like. She delegated appearing in court and arguing cases to ADAs because she would truly have sucked at that task. So her "Imma bad ass prosecutor" was all a bluff.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 11, 2024 05:24 PM (xG4kz)

324 316 308 Michael Steele, former RNC chair and present leftist lap dog says Harris spanked Trump's butt. The things people say for money
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 11, 2024 05:00 PM (tKS+g
He always was a rino.
Posted by: Eromero at September 11, 2024 05:16
---

Always got the vibe that Michael Steele could easily been caught in a hotel room with Andrew Gillum.
Posted by: Frank Barone



Heh! No, I don't see that. I do see he'll say anything damn thing for money. If some conservative outlet paid him more, he'd be vomiting out something completely different. Most of these malignant clowns are like that.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 11, 2024 05:24 PM (sL6Xd)

325 > But the city manager said it's not happening.

If I needed advice on how to hire mediocre DEI drones, I'd ask a city manager. If I needed truthful information about the dirty underbelly of a city, they'd be the last person I'd ask.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 11, 2024 05:25 PM (Odg76)

326 Six out of the Ten ???

That is 6 to 4, or
50% more prefer Trump !!!1!1!!

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 11, 2024 05:26 PM (/lPRQ)

327 nood Kamala lies

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 11, 2024 05:26 PM (CEzQx)

328 I do not understand the fez. It's like an emasculated fedora.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2024 05:02 PM (PDf99)

Flip it over and it becomes a champagne bucket.

Handy- dandy
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Telling War Stories
.....

or an air sickness bag.

Posted by: wth at September 11, 2024 05:27 PM (v0R5T)

329 Remember when everyone was floating steele as a good candidate. It felt way too much like the colin powell 'LOOK IT'S A BLACK REPUBLICAN!!!' thing to me.

These guys are not Thomas Sowell.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2024 05:27 PM (PDf99)

330 that would in any way count as an accomplishment?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September

I am going to let you in on a little secret. Hillary was much smarter than Bill and she believed he would be nothing without her- probably true. But Bill had looks and personality. Something Hillary never had. Bill needed the appearance of an all American family, but with someone who wouldn’t mind his wandering…..toe. Hillary craved power over being loved, hence the very mismatched couple becoming just that- a couple. Hillary just forgot the deal she made with the devil.

Kamala has gotten by on her looks. She didn’t need talent, she had pretty privilege. Her looks wouldn’t have done diddly squat if she decided to be a journalist, pretty girls are a dime a dozen there. But in her field? Of course they exist. Some prettier, but a whole lot of them uglier. She got to be AG, and then a senator because of her looks and her willingness to use every tool in her toolbox. She is still trying, but she is 60 and looks fade. Ultimately, you have to actually do stuff, and this is the cross roads Kamala finds herself, she doesn’t have the chops.

Posted by: Piper at September 11, 2024 05:27 PM (QzINz)

331 Ohio AG Dave Yost says his office has received reports of Haitians taking and eating pets.

http://tiny.cc/fenlzz
Posted by: bonhomme


This is unpossible! I was told that this is a racist lie by our Betters.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come
......

it was DEBUNKUMED

Posted by: wth at September 11, 2024 05:28 PM (v0R5T)

332 Her BS flowed fluently and freely, but it was BS. I will say it again, while her words flew out (and they did sound rehearsed), her demeanor was just ugly. It was boss woman. It was leadership. It was nasty.

Posted by: Piper at September 11, 2024 04:43 PM (pRpzT)

-------------------

Two words come to mind: condescending bitch.
The contempt was palpable.

Posted by: Decaf at September 11, 2024 05:28 PM (unUNN)

333 Re those panelists not liking Trump, I really didn't like him in 2016, until I started watching his live rallies. Grew to like him, and now think he's one of the best extemporaneous speakers I've seen and heard (which to be fair, isn't a lot).

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at September 11, 2024 05:30 PM (XMwZJ)

334 Kamala apparently also had a mic and someone feeding hwr responses... probably to the unscripted questions she got from Trump that she did not have ahead of time to prep answers.

Posted by: Redbanzai at September 11, 2024 05:30 PM (VJhzl)

335 333 Re those panelists not liking Trump, I really didn't like him in 2016, until I started watching his live rallies. Grew to like him, and now think he's one of the best extemporaneous speakers I've seen and heard (which to be fair, isn't a lot).

he's always annoyed me; seems like he can't stick to an idea long enough to get to the end of a sentence.

Posted by: anachronda at September 11, 2024 05:32 PM (oY6Yp)

336 Kamala has gotten by on her looks. She didn’t need talent, she had pretty privilege. Her looks wouldn’t have done diddly squat if she decided to be a journalist, pretty girls are a dime a dozen there. But in her field? Of course they exist. Some prettier, but a whole lot of them uglier. She got to be AG, and then a senator because of her looks and her willingness to use every tool in her toolbox. She is still trying, but she is 60 and looks fade. Ultimately, you have to actually do stuff, and this is the cross roads Kamala finds herself, she doesn’t have the chops.
Posted by: Piper at September 11, 2024 05:27 PM (QzINz)
———-

Well, she used tools found in powerful men’s pants, not her toolbox, but otherwise I agree.

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 11, 2024 05:32 PM (xm7wp)

337 Og, and there is video on X of Haitians illegally in DR killing a cat by ringing its neck then carrying it off to eat.

It is extremely upsetting to watch but Trump was not lying.

Posted by: Redbanzai at September 11, 2024 05:33 PM (VJhzl)

338 Without watching tje debate taking it Harris didn't say 1 truth all night, and got away with it

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2024 05:38 PM (fwDg9)

339 Ace,
Most of your work has lines like this:
"Panels are made for 1970s rumpus rooms."
Please never change

Posted by: derp early derp often at September 11, 2024 06:11 PM (JmRgc)

340 Hi, Piper, & greetings to Owlbert, too.

Regarding Harris "getting by on her looks":

Without wanting to sound like a real chauvinist pig here, I must posit that... I don't think she's particularly attractive, & I didn't think she was all that when she was younger, either. There are leftist women who are very attractive, so it's not just that I detest her political record.

Posted by: mnw at September 11, 2024 06:20 PM (NLIak)

341 @ 310; nice insight

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at September 11, 2024 06:22 PM (UWgy2)

342 Harris said last night, "Every one of our closest allies is praying Trump doesn't win."

First, some of them AREN'T. See eg., Israel. Berlusconi in IT; Wilders in NETH.

Secondly, WHO ARE the "closest allies" who DO hate & fear the thought of a second Trump term? We're talking about the leftwing EU bureaucracy, and leftist govts such as the ones in the UK, FR., & Germany, correct?

Three, WHY do they hate Trump? Because he pressured them to pay their fair share of NATO dues-- which they'd evaded for decades? Because he warned them not to cozy up to Putin, & thereby become dependent on Russian oil & gas?

Last thought here. I suspect the average U.S. voter doesn't give a ratz adz what foreigners think about how we should vote.

Posted by: mnw at September 11, 2024 06:34 PM (NLIak)

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An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat