Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, Sept. 14

Well, it's feeling fall-ish around here - at night. Not in the daytime. Is fall coming to your garden? The photo above is striking:

This white crape myrtle creates an umbrella of shade on the west side (front yard) of my house. The ground-level copper bird bath is very popular, even attracting a pair of mallards! This time of year it sheds its outer bark, revealing a cinnamon-colored trunk.

Over the winter it hardens off to grey, and over the summer the process repeats. Makes kind of a mess in the garden, though.

I have tried to grow perennials under it, but none survive. So I have put containers of annuals to fill in the area. The Boston fern does well until a hard frost. It seems to have the perfect amount of sun and shade.

Liz953, Maryland

Thanks so much for the great photo and seasonal information, Liz!

I think this tree may be the variety Natchez.

Crape myrtles named after Indian tribes are generally cross-species hybrids chosen for mildew resistance.

The Natchez crape myrtle (Lagerstroemia x ‘Natchez’is renowned for its beautiful white flowers and unique bark that sheds, especially in the Southern United States.

This beloved landscaping tree is a pretty fast-growing specimen too, but how fast are we talking?

Crape myrtle ‘Natchez’ is a very fast-growing tree with height increases of 3 to 5 feet per year. This tree often reaches its mature height of 25 to 30 feet within just 3 years though some trees will grow at a slower rate depending on climate, growing conditions, and regular maintenance.

Whether you plan to keep it small or let your Natchez crape myrtle reach for the sky, it’s important to cater to its ideal soil, sun, and other environmental needs to bring out its best.

Here’s your guide to the Natchez crape myrtle tree — everything from its flowers and maintenance to the pests you can expect to deal with and how to utilize the tree in your garden space.

For a closer look at the diversity of Crepe Myrtle, check out my article, Best Crepe Myrtle Varieties.

Native Plant of the Week

Gm. Indian cucumber root (Medeola virginiana) goes through some striking color changes at the end of the summer—the inner portions of the leaves turn red as the berries form, then the green parts fade to yellow. pic.twitter.com/6o8rjqetLR

— Sarah 🥨 (@cosmopterix) September 14, 2024

From NCSU:

Medeola virginiana, commonly called Indian cucumber root, is a slender, upright perennial wildflower that typically grows 1-2.5’ tall on a single, unbranched stem rising up each year from a crisp, edible rhizome. It is native to rich moist woodlands with acidic soil in eastern North America. Leaves that grow below fruit develop red areas on the surface, matching the color of the dark fruit.

There are some nice photos of the plant at the link above. This plant apparently has a wide climate adaptability. Have you ever seen it?

Wildwood Survival provides foraging information and more photos. Here is a photo of the cucumber-flavored root. Ever tasted it?

Edible Gardening/Putting Things By

By-Tor hit the jackpot with Habaneros in his garden this year. And he has graciously provided us with a recipe. Looks better than Jalapeno jam:

I have a a gallon sack of homegrown habanero chilis so I made pineapple-habanero jam. Easy to make. I made a large batch medium heat, jarred half of that, then doubled down on habaneros for the remainder. It’s pretty hot but not crazy hot. It sneaks up on you but doesn't overwhelm.
Good on toast, a bagel with cream cheese, grilled pork, chicken or fish, as a base for salsa; you name it.

2 20oz cans of crushed pineapple with juice
6 C sugar
1 yellow or orange bell pepper, diced fine
2 habanero chilis, diced fine for medium heat. Double for hot. Adjust as you like, but easier to add more than take it out
3/4 C vinegar
2 C of fresh or canned pineapple, diced small
2 boxes powdered pectin

Cook all ingredients in a large pot at a medium simmer for about ten minutes. Add powdered pectin and boil for two minutes. Jar and water bath can. Makes about 5 pints, 10 half-pints.

Looks great!

Nature

Plants find a way

This schefflera is growing on my neighbor's cabbage palm. Scheffleras aren't picky; my dad once cut the top from one then stick the top in a hole under our eucalyptus tree; it grew despite the shade.

wcgreen

Wonder if there might be some indoor locations where one might try something similar?

Hardscaping

Ambitious?

Adding a rock garden to your yard is a creative way to add depth and dimension to a flat or mundane space.

Learn more and get design & planting ideas https://t.co/Ingof4Rup2
Designer Burl Mostul, Villa Catalana. Photo: Janet Loughrey. pic.twitter.com/6btAp32xsR

— Garden Design Mag (@GardenDesignMag) September 14, 2024

Adventure

Are there places other than jungles where this would work? Would you like to visit?

Transparent dome on the rainforest at Anantara Golden Triangle, Northern Thailand.

[📹 abdulla_alsenaani]pic.twitter.com/zJgHDfx96L

— Massimo (@Rainmaker1973) September 14, 2024

Puttering

Bird Dog at Maggie's Farm has a nice post on Scarlet Tanagers. (Wiki says they have been re-classified as cardinals)

It's time when most summering, breeding birds return to their homes in South America.

The brilliantly-colored (male) Eastern US Scarlet Tanager is heading home. They look like tropical birds because they are.

Up here, they are more often heard than seen as they are birds of the woodland treetops.

The pic is a male in breeding plumage. Now, they are yellow-green.

Scarlet Tanager

Art

Gardens of The Horde

Grimmy has lots of nice things going on in his garden, but this is a not so nice thing:

The plague of Japanese beetles started showing up a few weeks ago. Between traps, and occasionally walking my fruit/berry plants with a bucket of soapy water to drown them in periodically, I've kept the damage on my priority plants to a minimum. There long fence between my neighbor and I is overgrown with wild grape, and the beetles love to cover those big leaves and devour them. Makes them easy to scrape into my drowning bucket, though.

What's going on in your garden? Something better than this, I hope.

Hope everyone has a nice weekend.

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Week in Review

What has changed since last week's thread? Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, Sept. 7

Any thoughts or questions?

I closed the comments on this post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.

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1 Good afternoon Greenthumbs

Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2024 01:32 PM (fwDg9)

2 When I grew roses in Maryland, I hated that plague of little shiny asses chewing away at my blooms. The Nip bastids made my rose garden a bed of twigs!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at September 14, 2024 01:34 PM (kpS4V)

3 Some creatures are getting to my half ripe tomatoes. Some are close to ground but other 3 fe r t up as I cage my tomato plants. So taking to pulling them inside about half ripe.
Cucumbers are fading quick, maybe won't get a couple more.

Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2024 01:35 PM (fwDg9)

4 Leaves are changing, sun goes down just after 9 pm now, garden has faded. We pulled the potatoes and hashed them and froze them (work in progress, there are a lot), today we pull the pea vines. I'll leave the carrots another week or so. Time to clean out the greenhouse, too, since we are moving in a couple of weeks. Otherwise I'd leave it another month. Canned a mess of jalepenos and salsa, plenty of strawberry blueberry jam, a whole mess of chicken soup since the celery and carrots were overtaking the world. Been a pretty good garden year.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at September 14, 2024 01:36 PM (sRfrW)

5 Pulled up all my tomato plants save one lone Brandywine, which I kept just for its pretty foliage. I don't expect to see any more maters, even though it's been in the 80's here; nights are too cool.

Planted some lettuce and kale seeds for (hopefully) a fall crop of munchies.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at September 14, 2024 01:37 PM (kpS4V)

6 I don't know if it's because I put the scent bag traps up early, was more dedicated in patrolling my plants and scraping them into buckets of soapy water, a fairly prolonged dry spell, or what, but the Japanes Beetle issue this year was much more subdued this year for me than previous years.

Posted by: Grimmy at September 14, 2024 01:38 PM (ycI94)

7 My community garden has a big fat groundhog living outside the fence who's been dining on the castoffs on the compost pile.

Time to fire up the crockpot!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at September 14, 2024 01:38 PM (kpS4V)

8 Didn't notice Japanese beetles this year

Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2024 01:38 PM (fwDg9)

9
Honeybees have been swarming around one of the firebushes, making an audible buzz. And we've seen our first hummingbird of the year. Another month or so may see Monarchs hatching.

It's funny to park the car next to one of the bushes and see sparrows poking their heads put to see what's going on.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 14, 2024 01:39 PM (BkEzK)

10 We’ve had Scarlet Tanagers in ETEX. Pretty bird.

Posted by: Eromero at September 14, 2024 01:41 PM (o2ZRX)

11 Hadrian, I didn't know the monarch butterflies arrived so late in the season. I've only seen one or two and figured it was a slow year.

We've finally got hummingbirds and the love the lantana.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at September 14, 2024 01:44 PM (kpS4V)

12 We Fed Japanese Beetles to our Chickens (for $30)
https://shorturl.at/KnamV

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 01:46 PM (FnneF)

13 The garden has been less than wonderful this year. Tomatoes, small. Cucumbers, enough. Cayenne peppers, outstanding. I need a load of manure and a bigger rototiller and younger operator for next year.

Posted by: huerfano at September 14, 2024 01:51 PM (VGOMa)

14 Things starting to cool toward the 50's and pretty rainy of late here in Alaska.

Garden produced lots of zucchini this year, with peas, beans, carrots, lettuce, beets, radishes, loads of raspberries and strawberries.

Wife won a Blue Ribbon in the State Fair for rhubarb, apparently we have the largest dang plant in the state...
For one, I think rhubarb is vile...

Posted by: Mudshark at September 14, 2024 01:57 PM (fvU+y)

15 Been saying in spite of deer eating my cucumbers plants had lots of cucumbers, deer don't eat them.
Tomatoes have been very poor.

Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2024 02:01 PM (fwDg9)

16 A damn pocket gopher has moved into the front yard. I can't get down on my knees to set the traps anymore. Maybe should just sell the place.

Posted by: Ronster at September 14, 2024 02:02 PM (iFxQJ)

17 Tough gardening year in the MidWest.
Fungus amongus. Had tomatoes wilt, had peppers wilt (new one on us).
Very few Jap Beetle problems, but everything else.
Even with irrigation, small maters.
We did manage to can all the green beans we'll need for at least the next year. We have adequate tomato products for next year. Even okra was spotty.
We had extra of everything planted, just in case we had a year like this, though.
Relatives and neighbors hardest hit.

Posted by: MkY at September 14, 2024 02:05 PM (cPGH3)

18 Bees were phenomenal, averaging 5 gallons/hive (we have 5 this year).

Posted by: MkY at September 14, 2024 02:07 PM (cPGH3)

19 Peppers were so-so.

Posted by: MkY at September 14, 2024 02:07 PM (cPGH3)

20 >>> 18 Bees were phenomenal, averaging 5 gallons/hive (we have 5 this year).
Posted by: MkY at September 14, 2024 02:07 PM (cPGH3)

That's a lot of honey. Do you use all of it or sell some?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 02:10 PM (FnneF)

21 damn pocket gopher has moved into the front yard.

Gopher gassers!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 14, 2024 02:11 PM (HHIe0)

22 Well, it's feeling fall-ish around here - at night. Not in the daytime. Is fall coming to your garden?
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We are seeing signs of an early fall here in Bourbon Country. The black walnut trees are turning yellow and the nuts will probably start falling off in another month.

About a week ago we had "a touch of fall" as the daytime temperatures didn't get out of the upper 60's and we saw a couple mornings in the upper 30's. Even ran the heat a couple mornings.

The garden was a bust. Infestation of beetles. They ate everything. Or ruined it. Nothing we tried killed them. It's an empty plot right now. Well, except for the weeds.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 14, 2024 02:13 PM (Q4IgG)

23 Do you use all of it or sell some?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

Not sold any yet. Not sure how to market it.
DO have a label, though.

I make creamed honey with some, which is kinda unknown, so that will be my "value added" product, I think.

Posted by: MkY at September 14, 2024 02:16 PM (cPGH3)

24 I'll probably get willowed but here goes:

I live in Zone 6 and I'm looking for ideas for flowering annuals to plant in a couple of spots in my yard for color over the winter. I love pansies, but is there anything else I should consider?

Posted by: Emmie at September 14, 2024 02:26 PM (Sf2cq)

25 Since no one else is..
We also only use honey and maple syrup as our sweeteners (your body knows what to do with those sugars). We use about 4 gallons/year.
One thing I did this year (accidently, cause I didn't have enough honey supers) was pull honey 3 times through the year.
Feb/Mar honey was very light, very floral Mostly soft and red maples, probably, with a hint of black locust. Makes a phenomenal mead.
Apr/May honey was a tad darker. Fruit trees, primarily, with some garden plants thrown in.
Jun/Jul was darker still. Garden plants, native plants, whatever Home Depot had blooming.
But it's another marketing opportunity. If someone has allergies only at specific times, that person can eat that honey made at those specific times.

Posted by: MkY at September 14, 2024 02:28 PM (cPGH3)

26 For one, I think rhubarb is vile...

Posted by: Mudshark at September 14, 2024 01:57 PM (fvU+y)

Except in strawberry rhubarb pie. Yum. Vanilla ice cream topper.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'the world is profoundly morally broken' at September 14, 2024 02:36 PM (z1Lo4)

27 I love honey, it’s good for you, and Biblical too.

Posted by: Eromero at September 14, 2024 02:37 PM (o2ZRX)

28 26 For one, I think rhubarb is vile...

Posted by: Mudshark at September 14, 2024 01:57 PM (fvU+y)

Except in strawberry rhubarb pie. Yum. Vanilla ice cream topper.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'the world is profoundly morally broken' at September 14, 2024 02:36 PM (z1Lo4
A friend passed away here in ETEX 10 years or thereabouts ago. Before he died we were talking and rhubarb came up. He’d just had fresh rhubarb pie with vanilla ice cream. I asked where he got rhubarb and he told me from along his fence. I asked ‘In Texas?!?’ He then told me ‘we’re at our place in Colorado’.

Posted by: Eromero at September 14, 2024 02:44 PM (o2ZRX)

29 My muscat grapes are ripe enough to press, and I think the concords will be ripe enough this next week, so I will have to start this next Monday. I was afraid I had trimmed all the grapes too far back, but apparently not,

My back yard smells wonderful.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 14, 2024 02:44 PM (D7oie)

30 In my part of Canada, our friends across the street still have tomatoes that need to ripen. A lot of them are hanging through a fence in a well travelled walkway and people just leave them alone. High trust societies are the best.


Also, quick question, their cats, which I love, do come over here and apparently crap in the trees. I don't care. Our yard is forest like. Should I have any concerns?

Thanks all!

Posted by: Stateless at September 14, 2024 02:52 PM (jvJvP)

31 Gardening thread/1st world problems thread.

As I went to trim the RMBS Mom's yew hedges this morning, I discovered that what appear to be yellow jackets have probably built a nest in one corner. 🤬

I was able to trim all but one small area. Unfortunately, the hedges are to thick there to spot the nest and properly employ chemical weapons. So one spot will look unsightly until a frost.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2024 02:52 PM (8vo5i)

32 I exist in the PNW where the rainy season (Sept-June) just started. If only moss was a food source I would never go hungry. That stuff is on everything. I hate this place and have put much effort into relocating to the desert SW in the very near future.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 14, 2024 03:04 PM (/U5Yz)

33 >>> 31 Gardening thread/1st world problems thread.

As I went to trim the RMBS Mom's yew hedges this morning, I discovered that what appear to be yellow jackets have probably built a nest in one corner. 🤬

I was able to trim all but one small area. Unfortunately, the hedges are to thick there to spot the nest and properly employ chemical weapons. So one spot will look unsightly until a frost.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2024 02:52 PM (8vo5i)

Obviously the only solution is to burn the entire hedge down.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 03:05 PM (FnneF)

34 Echoing the virus problem -- my tomatoes got the virus. I use some potting mix, along with compost and last year's leaves, to top off my raised beds. I've been very suspicious of potting soil ever since that weirdly bad soil was being sold in 2021, which was the same year as the bad chicken feed and the bad baby formula.

I wonder if there's an effort to frustrate home gardeners that goes beyond them merely telling us it's bad for our carbon footprint and we might catch untreatable fungus infections from our gardens.

*adjusts tinfoil chapeau*

Posted by: Emmie at September 14, 2024 03:07 PM (Sf2cq)

35 A transparent dome in a tropical rainforest? Toasty!

Posted by: Sassy Fred at September 14, 2024 03:10 PM (RMjVS)

36 I have been buying creamed honey. The dairy I go to carries local honey, so I try to stay stocked up. Creamed honey is a nice product.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 14, 2024 03:11 PM (MpVUb)

37 Wondering to leave partially eaten tomatoes on or get them off. Partially eaten attracted more pests

Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2024 03:16 PM (fwDg9)

38 >>> 34 Echoing the virus problem -- my tomatoes got the virus. I use some potting mix, along with compost and last year's leaves, to top off my raised beds. I've been very suspicious of potting soil ever since that weirdly bad soil was being sold in 2021, which was the same year as the bad chicken feed and the bad baby formula.

I wonder if there's an effort to frustrate home gardeners that goes beyond them merely telling us it's bad for our carbon footprint and we might catch untreatable fungus infections from our gardens.

*adjusts tinfoil chapeau*
Posted by: Emmie at September 14, 2024 03:07 PM (Sf2cq)

If they could, then they would.

I am happy to have "organic" fertilizer from chickens, goats and cattle.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 03:21 PM (FnneF)

39 > I wonder if there's an effort to frustrate home gardeners that goes beyond them merely telling us it's bad for our carbon footprint and we might catch untreatable fungus infections from our gardens.
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We purchased seedlings (yellow, zucchini, cucumber) locally and not one of the 9 plants survived. They'd start off looking good, but ended up being stunted, small and produced zero veggies.

Lived about a month. Disappointing. Might have been affected by the beetle infestation, but didn't see any on those plants.

What's more... nobody's garden around here looked good this year. Some people didn't even have one, even though they'd been doing it for years.

Maybe they know something I don't?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 14, 2024 03:24 PM (Q4IgG)

40 We have a bumper crop of apples, all different kinds, pears, tomatoes, table grapes, shallots. The figs are starting to ripen and the pomegranates should be ready soon if they're not already.

My green beans look horrible, combination of the scorching heat and the chickens laying eggs in that raised bed, oh well. The chickens also ruined the succulent I gave to the guy that works here to save. He had it in the shade on a work bench and the chickens are getting up there digging in the plants he's transplanting. I have eggs so there's that.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 14, 2024 03:31 PM (Go6qm)

41 Our wine grapes are ready too, I'm not sure what the brix were but I think they're going to start next week.

My friends that farm wine grapes are harvesting now until November. Busy season.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 14, 2024 03:33 PM (Go6qm)

42 Could be an issue with their potting soil. I've heard that there is contaminated stuff that just kills plants.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 14, 2024 03:33 PM (MpVUb)

43 NO PET THREAD NO PEACE

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 14, 2024 03:34 PM (1mOP2)

44 CaliGirl, what is growing in the fields right now?

Posted by: Ronster at September 14, 2024 03:36 PM (iFxQJ)

45 Obviously the only solution is to burn the entire hedge down.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 03:05 PM

That phrase did occur to me. 😂 Frankly, I'd be happier if we just pulled the damned things up and planted more manageable foundation plantings, but the mom isn't in a hurry to develop a landscaping plan.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 14, 2024 03:38 PM (Wnv9h)

46 Haitians ate the pet thread!!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 14, 2024 03:43 PM (1mOP2)

47 PET NOOD

Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2024 03:46 PM (fwDg9)

48 I’m trying to get peanuts yo boil at Corsicana, anybody driving from SC/NC/VA who can deliver a bushel of raw green peanuts. I am willing to pay for fresh peanuts.
Ben Had has my info.

Posted by: Eromero at September 14, 2024 03:48 PM (o2ZRX)

49
Decent gardening year, but required a lot of daily watering here in SE PA. Really good for cucumbers, decent crop of fat tomatoes, mediocre zucchini, good salad greens. Bush lima beans were fun to grow (truly amazing how they grow) but on the ratio of space to yield not so great. If the SHTF a decent source of protein. Corn came out of the gate great but insufficient rain and high temps didn't work well - at least I have some Halloween stalks to decorate with and a lot of seed for next year. The native American/Indian method I may employ next year with a lot of compost. That method is growing two other plants beneath the corn, which I imagine shields the ground from heat and sun.

Live and learn, maybe. The experience of planting a seed and seeing the instructions somehow ingrained in that tiny seed to create a food intentionally directed for humans to consume? Unless someone is on the leftist/atheist side of the equation a truly humbling experience.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 14, 2024 03:49 PM (RKVpM)

50 42 Could be an issue with their potting soil. I've heard that there is contaminated stuff that just kills plants.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 14, 2024 03:33 PM (MpVUb)

Ever since I could no longer find Sunshine potting mix in the stores, I switched to Miracle Gro, which had been fine until 2021. That year, the soil smelled nasty, like sewage, and had lots of large wood chips and was weirdly black, like they had tried to counteract the smell with charcoal. The next year, the soil smelled strongly of eucalyptus or cedar, which was nicer but still not normal. Still contained oversized wood chips and both of those years, it seemed there was much less spaghnum peat. A lot of people reported that their seeds weren't germinating

Posted by: Emmie at September 14, 2024 03:49 PM (Sf2cq)

51 there is a problem with persistent herbicides in "organic" compost and top soil. It is often made with yard debris and such, and it puts enough pesticides in the garden to stunt or kill plants.

The fast way to judge is to plant beans, like a handfull of the type you get in a bag at the store, and plant those, see if they sprout and then wither away, or have those crumpled knotted leaves.
Time and tilling will destroy it eventually, but it is a serious problem.
This also can happen when you get lawn clippings from a neighbor who doesn't spray or use weed and seed, but they guy who owned it before did.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 14, 2024 03:52 PM (D7oie)

52
Wondering to leave partially eaten tomatoes on or get them off. Partially eaten attracted more pests

Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2024 03:16 PM

Any defect in a tomato and I pick it. Nothing good happens outside once the skin is broken.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 14, 2024 03:54 PM (RKVpM)

53 44 CaliGirl, what is growing in the fields right now?
Posted by: Ronster at September 14, 2024 03:36 PM (iFxQJ)

Broccoli, cauliflower, spinach,celery, cilantro, head lettuce, romaine, green and red leaf, kale, red and green cabbage, napa and bok choy, jalapenos, red fresno, poblano, strawberries, blackberries, raspberries.

I don't try grow any of that because it's unnecessary. We grow the chilis at the ranches that are more inland because it's too hot to grow anything else in the summer.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 14, 2024 03:57 PM (Go6qm)

54 MkY at September 14, 2024 02:07 PM

A remarkable yield of honey!

Posted by: KT at September 14, 2024 04:13 PM (xekrU)

55 Whatever. Gone to Maui to spend our children's inheritance before CumAllahLa can steal it.

Posted by: Marooned at September 14, 2024 04:16 PM (AVwub)

56 A note on my photo of the white crepe myrtle.
Natchez is the only white variety of crepe myrtle. And, indeed it grows fast. I have to prune the lower branches 3-5 feet each year so the UPS truck can drive by without blasting through low hanging blooms. Also, crepe myrtles seem to be quite salt-resistant. I live in a flood plain and my tree gets flooded with Chesapeake Bay water 2-3 times a year.

Posted by: Lia953 at September 14, 2024 05:24 PM (2ZTG1)

57 Current prject: Replace toilet fill valve.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 14, 2024 07:13 PM (XeU6L)

58 Natchez may be the only full-sized white-blossomed tree in the "Indian Tribe" hybrid series of Crape Myrtle. I think there are some other white varieties that are useful in the deserts, etc. where mildew is not a problem, and there are some white "Indian Tribe" varieties that are smaller than "Natchez", including dwarfs.

Posted by: KT at September 14, 2024 08:18 PM (xekrU)

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