The Morning Rant: Minimalist Edition

Today's art portrayed one of the intellectual titans of the 18th century. It's hard to find a better example of the explosion of intellectualism in Europe than Antoine Lavoisier. He was a polymath, but he is best known for his tremendous advances in chemistry, including the revolutionary concept that matter is neither created nor destroyed. Remember those stoichiometry problems in Chem 1? Yeah...you can thank Lavoisier for those!

But he was what was essentially a tax collector for the French government, and that attracted the attention of the Committee of Public Safety, that wonderful terror organ of the revolution in France. Never mind that he was an unabashedly great man, who along the way, as director of the "French Gunpowder Administration," had made the country self-sufficient in its production of that vital war materiel.

Despite Lavoisier being a loyal Frenchman, a towering figure in science, and a potentially useful ally of the revolution, they chopped off his head.

But don't worry...they forgave him 18 months later, so all is well!

That, in microcosm, is progressivism. How the rabble that was running France FELT about Lavoisier was sufficient justification for his execution. And since feelings change, it was also reasonable in their twisted and illogical world-view that Lavoisier be rehabilitated.

It is those feelings...the base, often evil, completely illogical impulses of Man that progressivism allows free reign. We see it in America today. A budding psychiatric case FEELS that he is really a woman, and off we send him to the butchers masquerading as physicians. Our elites-in-training FEEL like Gaza is being abused by those mean Israeli Jews, absent any data to show it, yet off they run to riot and burn and destroy...all in the name of their irrational and fact-free feelings.

Chesterton's Fence addresses this rather neatly. That fence may look like it serves no purpose, but a sober analysis... boring stuff that is no fun at all... might show that it serves an important purpose indeed!

Posted by: CBD at 11:00 AM

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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 10, 2024 10:59 AM (GBKbO)

2 1

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 10, 2024 11:01 AM (zjgNU)

3 Since you're reprising the subject of the art thread, I feel like you're trying to make a point but the gauges in your ears make it difficult for me to take you seriously.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 10, 2024 11:01 AM (IUd0M)

4
Maybe (hah!) the EM hog wrasslers will leave their excrement in the previous thread.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 10, 2024 11:01 AM (xG4kz)

5 Yup. Well said.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2024 11:02 AM (Pijte)

6 Stoichiometry is sexy math. There. I said it.

Posted by: Ribbed at September 10, 2024 11:02 AM (B0mGw)

7
Good morning, all.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 10, 2024 11:02 AM (wjjYr)

8 I am become willow, Destroyer of Threads!

So I was commenting, Rowe (acting Director of Secret Service) being asked to retire is kind of like consequences. Except nothing negative accrues.

Posted by: blaster at September 10, 2024 11:02 AM (xhfG9)

9 Along those lines, I think the squad is pushing for a posthumous pardon for Jeffrey Epstein.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 10, 2024 11:02 AM (lTGtQ)

10 Top 10! Yay!

And modern progressivism allows NO forgiveness no matter the sin.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 10, 2024 11:03 AM (+4yJ5)

11 We have universities brimming with professors *and* students focused on torching every 'Chesterton fence' they can find. Bonus points for originality!

The new one seems to be: Why is it so bad to murder geese at the park? I hate those birds. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2024 11:03 AM (Pijte)

12 Feel like a number.
I'm not a number.

Posted by: B. Seger at September 10, 2024 11:04 AM (CV8a5)

13 And also true of progressives; the bunch that got Lavoisier’s head chopped off got their own heads chopped off a few months later.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 10, 2024 11:04 AM (GlxLj)

14 He was a polymath,

He had 6 fingers?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 10, 2024 11:04 AM (HHIe0)

15 >>Along those lines, I think the squad is pushing for a posthumous pardon for Jeffrey Epstein.

Wait -- whaaaaaat?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2024 11:04 AM (Pijte)

16 People really need to get off their asses and study the French Revolution more. And the Spanish Civil War.

There are a lot of lessons to be learned. People can and will do terrible things for basically zero fucking useful purpose.

Posted by: somedood at September 10, 2024 11:04 AM (N2SHT)

17
ALL THE FEELZ ARE REAL!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 10, 2024 11:04 AM (xG4kz)

18 >>And also true of progressives; the bunch that got Lavoisier’s head chopped off got their own heads chopped off a few months later.

Terrible, just terrible!!

Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2024 11:04 AM (Pijte)

19 Does this mean we have to stay on topic for 100 comments?

Posted by: Oddbob at September 10, 2024 11:05 AM (/y8xj)

20 Thought you all would never get here

Posted by: javems at September 10, 2024 11:05 AM (8I4hW)

21 Lavoisier also had a hand in developing the metric system (according to Wiki) so... maybe the beheading wasn't all bad?

Maybe.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 10, 2024 11:05 AM (Q4IgG)

22 Rosseau is famous for articulating this anti-rational, impulsive approach to life, but lefties everywhere are the inheritors. The Democrat party is their present-day home, but it a problem across generations, and in very civilization.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 10, 2024 11:05 AM (GABK0)

23 Eh, Lavoisier was no Bill Nye, Neil DeGrasse Tyson, or Fauci.

He was not THE SCIENCE.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 10, 2024 11:05 AM (v6JzV)

24 Chesterton's Fence addresses this rather neatly. That fence may look like it serves no purpose, but a sober analysis... boring stuff that is no fun at all... might show that it serves an important purpose indeed!

Posted by: CBD at 11:00 AM

I have always considered myself one who appreciates tradition, but even I have had to realize how wrong we have been to ignore the wisdom of the past.

My latest realization is that homosexuality was outlawed effectively EVERYWHERE because if you grant them tolerance (as I foolishly once advocated) they go after children.

That's not all of the reason, but it's a pretty clear one.

Another is the social shunning of bastards- yes, it's pretty harsh to punish a child for something out of their control, but we had a LOT fewer bastards when we made it difficult for bastards in life.

I'm sure the gods of the copybook headings will be along to explain more to us soon.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 10, 2024 11:06 AM (zjgNU)

25
That was a nicely written and well-considered opinion piece up above.

Who are you and what have you done with CBD!?!?

Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2024 11:06 AM (eDfFs)

26 Along those lines, I think the squad is pushing for a posthumous pardon for Jeffrey Epstein.

Wait -- whaaaaaat?

Posted by: Lizzy

It was a joke.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 10, 2024 11:06 AM (lTGtQ)

27 >>So I was commenting, Rowe (acting Director of Secret Service) being asked to retire is kind of like consequences. Except nothing negative accrues.

Probably so that Trump can't fire him and take his pension?

Bet he lands at one of those Lefty national security places like Crowdstrike or whatever.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2024 11:06 AM (Pijte)

28
He was a polymath,

He had 6 fingers?
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle

That's a polydactyl, third cousin to the tetradactyls.

Truly, the Dactyl Kingdom is a thing of wonder!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 10, 2024 11:07 AM (xG4kz)

29 So I was commenting, Rowe (acting Director of Secret Service) being asked to retire is kind of like consequences. Except nothing negative accrues.
Posted by: blaster at September 10, 2024 11:02 AM (xhfG9)

More like trying to pay your problems to disappear while you hope no one is paying attention.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 10, 2024 11:07 AM (GlxLj)

30 He was not THE SCIENCE

In a sane world, Fauci would have been laughed out of polite society for that one.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 10, 2024 11:07 AM (+4yJ5)

31 Along those lines, I think the squad is pushing for a posthumous pardon for Jeffrey Epstein.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 10, 2024 11:02 AM (lTGtQ)
===============
What makes you think that?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 10, 2024 11:07 AM (GABK0)

32 Watching the polls swing back and forth like a pendulum is hilarious, but I'm still confused how three presidential elections in a row have had a dead heat for the entire race. Seems like someone would gain the ascendancy in twelve years. That's a long time, socially speaking.

Posted by: Ribbed at September 10, 2024 11:07 AM (B0mGw)

33 Kamala wants taxpayer-funded sex change surgeries for illegal immigrants

I am not making this up

Posted by: Don Black at September 10, 2024 11:07 AM (/7KEl)

34 >>It was a joke.

Ha!, OK, wow, step away from the laptop, Lizzy.. .

Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2024 11:07 AM (Pijte)

35 People really need to get off their ~~asses~~ screens, open a book, and study the French Revolution more. And the Spanish Civil War.

FIFY

Posted by: Archimedes at September 10, 2024 11:07 AM (xCA6C)

36
Can I yell at the olds stealing my social security investment?!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 10, 2024 10:58 AM (GBKbO)

BWAHAHAHA!!!

Olds rolling around and making wrinkly love on TJM's Social Security contributions.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2024 11:08 AM (eDfFs)

37 "Bet he lands at one of those Lefty national security places like Crowdstrike or whatever."

MSNBC?

Posted by: Ribbed at September 10, 2024 11:08 AM (B0mGw)

38 The new one seems to be: Why is it so bad to murder geese at the park? I hate those birds. . .
Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2024 11:03 AM (Pijte)

It's goose season in Alberta. Sept 8 to Dec. 23, daily bag limit is 8.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 10, 2024 11:08 AM (unvNj)

39 I was told there would be no polymath.

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 10, 2024 11:08 AM (CEzQx)

40 36 Olds rolling around and making wrinkly love on TJM's Social Security contributions.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2024 11:08 AM (eDfFs)

======

Ew...but lol.

But...ew.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 10, 2024 11:08 AM (GBKbO)

41 29 So I was commenting, Rowe (acting Director of Secret Service) being asked to retire is kind of like consequences. Except nothing negative accrues.
Posted by: blaster at September 10, 2024 11:02 AM (xhfG9)

He's being removed.... Because he missed

Posted by: It's me donna at September 10, 2024 11:08 AM (IyPmt)

42 Just for the record, the Dr Guillotin who was executed by the Guillotine was unrelated to the inventor of the device.

Another factoid, Christopher Lee was in attendance at the last public guillotining in France.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 10, 2024 11:09 AM (lTGtQ)

43 Kamala wants taxpayer-funded sex change surgeries for illegal immigrants

I am not making this up
Posted by: Don Black at September 10, 2024 11:07 AM (/7KEl)
---
Can we mandate it for ALL illegal immigrants?

That might be a good disincentive...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 10, 2024 11:09 AM (7fElN)

44 ALL THE FEELZ ARE REAL!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 10, 2024 11:04 AM (xG4kz)

Feynman's quotation about science needs to be front-and-center!

"It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2024 11:09 AM (F28vG)

45 The way I understand the Chesterton's Fence analogy is that you don't, strictly speaking, have to analyze and understand the purpose of the fence. It's enough to recognize that you not understanding the purpose is not a reason to remove it.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 10, 2024 11:09 AM (/y8xj)

46 Good thing no one is pushing for mob rule here!

That would be bad!

Posted by: Just Lily at September 10, 2024 11:09 AM (PTggi)

47 Speaking of leftist feeeelingssss and Elon Musk, if it weren't for trying to maintain peace in the family, I would love to know how my lefty family Elon-worshippers feel about him these days. But knowing them, with their compulsive desire to politicize everything, perhaps I will find out someday without being the one to bring it up. I do know that at least one of them thinks Joe Biden is "sweet." LOL!

Posted by: Emmie at September 10, 2024 11:09 AM (Sf2cq)

48 So I was commenting, Rowe (acting Director of Secret Service) being asked to retire is kind of like consequences. Except nothing negative accrues.

Posted by: blaster at September 10, 2024 11:02 AM (xhfG9)

allowing gov. unions was a big fuck up....jus' sayin'.

Posted by: BignJames at September 10, 2024 11:10 AM (AwYPR)

49 "Can we mandate it for ALL illegal immigrants? That might be a good disincentive..."

Latin American machismo is a real thing.

Posted by: Ribbed at September 10, 2024 11:10 AM (B0mGw)

50 Kamala wants taxpayer-funded sex change surgeries for illegal immigrants

I am not making this up
Posted by: Don Black at September 10, 2024 11:07 AM (/7KEl)
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Can we mandate it for ALL illegal immigrants?

That might be a good disincentive...

*sound of chainsaws starting*

Posted by: Archimedes at September 10, 2024 11:10 AM (xCA6C)

51 Another is the social shunning of bastards- yes, it's pretty harsh to punish a child for something out of their control, but we had a LOT fewer bastards when we made it difficult for bastards in life.

I wonder how much of that happened among the commoners as opposed to the aristocracy. When you're a property owner, banning a segment of the population from inheriting is important. When you're just trying to get enough to eat, less so.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 10, 2024 11:10 AM (IUd0M)

52 When I was a kid, and bird hunting with my grandfather, we almost never got a Canada goose. Then somebody decided to protect them and now they infest everything.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 10, 2024 11:10 AM (GABK0)

53 "It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong."

Well, that's just racist hate speech right there.

Posted by: Ribbed at September 10, 2024 11:10 AM (B0mGw)

54
He was not THE SCIENCE.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 10, 2024 11:05 AM (v6JzV)

__________

How many Nobel Prizes did he win, huh?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 10, 2024 11:11 AM (1Nxff)

55 Being "unburdened by what has come before" is a repudiation of Chesterton.

Tear down the dang fence! Unless of course it is useful to fool people into thinking its okay to vote for you. Then build the dang fence!

Posted by: blaster at September 10, 2024 11:11 AM (xhfG9)

56 >>It's goose season in Alberta. Sept 8 to Dec. 23, daily bag limit is 8.

So, controlled, licensed hunting -- not hey, this poor foreigner was hungry, so why can't he just randomly kill any wildlife that has the bad luck of crossing his path.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2024 11:11 AM (Pijte)

57 The way I understand the Chesterton's Fence analogy is that you don't, strictly speaking, have to analyze and understand the purpose of the fence. It's enough to recognize that you not understanding the purpose is not a reason to remove it.
Posted by: Oddbob at September 10, 2024 11:09 AM (/y8xj

It actually goes further:

You not understanding the purpose is a reason NOT to remove it.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 10, 2024 11:11 AM (zjgNU)

58 Girl spawn: Well, I just feel like that's wrong.

Me: I'm a stop you right there. I don't care about feels. Tell me the facts. If you believe and can prove that the facts are wrong, then we can discuss that. I want facts, not feels. This isn't a fabric softener commercial.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 10, 2024 11:11 AM (4XwPj)

59 I was told there would be no polymath.
Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 10, 2024 11:08 AM

Don't worry, Citizen. We took care of it.

Posted by: The Committee of Public Safety at September 10, 2024 11:12 AM (Wnv9h)

60
"The Republic has no need of savants and chemists. Justice must run its course."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 10, 2024 11:12 AM (1Nxff)

61 So, controlled, licensed hunting -- not hey, this poor foreigner was hungry, so why can't he just randomly kill any wildlife that has the bad luck of crossing his path.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2024 11:11 AM (Pijte)

And cats

Posted by: It's me donna at September 10, 2024 11:12 AM (IyPmt)

62 Olds rolling around and making wrinkly love on TJM's Social Security contributions.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2024 11:08 AM (eDfFs)

Argh...I did not need that visual this morning.

Posted by: IC - #FJB at September 10, 2024 11:12 AM (ZtyUu)

63 The French drive on the correct side of the road, so they have that going for them. Trying to think what else.....

Posted by: French Fries? at September 10, 2024 11:12 AM (CV8a5)

64 So I was commenting, Rowe (acting Director of Secret Service) being asked to retire is kind of like consequences. Except nothing negative accrues.
Posted by: blaster at September 10, 2024 11:02 AM (xhfG9)

He's being removed.... Because he missed
Posted by: It's me donna at September 10, 2024 11:08 AM (IyPmt)

I believe that private citizen cannot be compelled to testify before Congress. Not that this would, in any way, be an issue.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 10, 2024 11:12 AM (IUd0M)

65 Morning.

OT but when you see Nurse make sure give her many thanks and blessings for doing what I can imagine is a very difficult job. I just had to do something...really freaking gross...and I can imagine she does all that and worse all day every day.

Cheers, Nurse Ratched!

Posted by: Robert at September 10, 2024 11:12 AM (lE9q8)

66 Marvena Twigg at the National Youth Advocate Program is getting $160 million per year to clean up Canadian Geese in rural Ohio from NotTheBee.

Posted by: Ribbed at September 10, 2024 11:12 AM (B0mGw)

67 There is an illegal alien over there, gutting a pet cat while it hangs on Chesterton's fence.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 10, 2024 11:12 AM (lTGtQ)

68 > Kamala wants taxpayer-funded sex change surgeries for illegal immigrants
---------
Is that what the illegals want? It doesn't sound like something they'd want.

It sounds like grifting to me.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 10, 2024 11:13 AM (Q4IgG)

69 The French drive on the correct side of the road, so they have that going for them. Trying to think what else.....
Posted by: French Fries?

Fromage.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 10, 2024 11:13 AM (IFeV+)

70 Uh...did I wash my hands?

*Sniff*

Posted by: Robert at September 10, 2024 11:13 AM (lE9q8)

71 It actually goes further:

You not understanding the purpose is a reason NOT to remove it.

Yes, that's better.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 10, 2024 11:13 AM (/y8xj)

72 >>And cats

And dogs, bunnies, pigs, some farmer's livestock, maybe their neighbor if said neighbor is a jerk . . .

Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2024 11:14 AM (Pijte)

73 I've said it before: Our side has the spirit of the American Revolution, theirs has the spirit of the French Revolution, with a little light Bolshevism for flavor.

Posted by: American Hawkman at September 10, 2024 11:14 AM (skAOD)

74 The only reason I would go to France would be to visit the Eiffel Tower, Versailles, or Mont Saint-Michel.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 10, 2024 11:14 AM (v6JzV)

75 Fromage.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 10, 2024 11:13 AM (IFeV+)

Foie gras.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2024 11:14 AM (F28vG)

76 The French drive on the correct side of the road, so they have that going for them. Trying to think what else.....

Carbon steel pans, the use of fond, and demi-glace.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 10, 2024 11:14 AM (xCA6C)

77 The French drive on the correct side of the road, so they have that going for them. Trying to think what else.....
Posted by: French Fries? at September 10, 2024 11:12 AM

Sous vide.

Posted by: The Committee of Public Safety at September 10, 2024 11:15 AM (Wnv9h)

78 Impressive.

When he was my age, he had already been dead for 4 years!

Posted by: Stateless at September 10, 2024 11:15 AM (jvJvP)

79 Justice must run its course."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 10, 2024 11:12 AM (1Nxff)

Too bad "justice" is "someone else must pay because I'm having a bad day."

Posted by: Emmie at September 10, 2024 11:15 AM (Sf2cq)

80 The French drive on the correct side of the road, so they have that going for them. Trying to think what else.....
Posted by: French Fries?

Fromage.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 10, 2024 11:13 AM (IFeV+)

Brigitte Bardot?

Posted by: Robert at September 10, 2024 11:15 AM (lE9q8)

81 Fetchez la vache!

Posted by: Random Movie Quotes at September 10, 2024 11:15 AM (B0mGw)

82 I goosed a cute girl in the Food Lion yesterday. Even though it's goose season, she took offense.

Posted by: Russian hands, Roman Fingers at September 10, 2024 11:15 AM (CV8a5)

83 >>The French drive on the correct side of the road, so they have that going for them. Trying to think what else.....
Posted by: French Fries?

>>Fromage.

Fronnnnnch fries -- and Peru!!

Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2024 11:15 AM (Pijte)

84 Girl spawn: Well, I just feel like that's wrong.

Me: I'm a stop you right there. I don't care about feels. Tell me the facts. If you believe and can prove that the facts are wrong, then we can discuss that. I want facts, not feels. This isn't a fabric softener commercial.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 10, 2024 11:11 AM (4XwPj)

I will say to tell her not to just dismiss feelings though, but instead try to figure out WHY it feels wrong. Then you can judge whether your feeling was correct. (And address the fault in your understanding if you were wrong.)

It's a useful skill not only in political debates, but when you get the "something's wrong" feeling out in public. If you get taught to ignore feelings, you'll miss out on what you are sensing but can't yet articualte.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 10, 2024 11:15 AM (zjgNU)

85 And so as Elon Musk may be disliked by some.

Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at September 10, 2024 11:15 AM (NFX2v)

86 Commenting present for now

Posted by: Skip at September 10, 2024 11:16 AM (qFAMI)

87 The only reason I would go to France would be to visit the Eiffel Tower, Versailles, or Mont Saint-Michel.

I've been to all three, and if I had to pick one to skip, it'd be the Eiffel Tower. You should add the Louvre to your list, though, and Chartres Cathedral. Oh, and the Normandy beaches.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 10, 2024 11:16 AM (xCA6C)

88 The French drive on the correct side of the road, so they have that going for them. Trying to think what else.....
Posted by: French Fries?

They know how to prepare a steak. Their word for medium rare is essentially "the proper way", and if someone asks for well done, they consider it burnt.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 10, 2024 11:16 AM (lTGtQ)

89 the Chesterton's Fence analogy is that you don't, strictly speaking, have to analyze and understand the purpose of the fence. It's enough to recognize that you not understanding the purpose is not a reason to remove it.
===
Yes odd one.
In fact, you should not remove things you do not understand. For the bulwarks of civilization my seem useless now, virtue, honor, duty, destroy it and you find out their worth, and how hard it was to build them into society to begin with. One must stop and think it through before attempting redesigning society.

Posted by: A one at September 10, 2024 11:16 AM (3/d+3)

90
Being "unburdened by what has come before" is a repudiation of Chesterton.

Tear down the dang fence! Unless of course it is useful to fool people into thinking its okay to vote for you. Then build the dang fence!

Posted by: blaster

If the fence is 20 feet high Walz will invest in a 25 foot ladder factory.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 10, 2024 11:16 AM (63Dwl)

91 That bit about energy being neither created nor destroyed...we have Lavoisier to thank for the kinetic ball craze of the '70s? I suppose his birthday ought to Nat'l Kinetic Balls Day

Posted by: Rex B at September 10, 2024 11:16 AM (592Pr)

92 Foie gras.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2024 11:14 AM (F28vG)

Does it taste like....liver?

Posted by: BignJames at September 10, 2024 11:16 AM (AwYPR)

93 81 Fetchez la vache!
Posted by: Random Movie Quotes at September 10, 2024 11:15 AM (B0mGw)

Is that get the cow ?

Posted by: It's me donna at September 10, 2024 11:16 AM (IyPmt)

94 The French drive on the correct side of the road, so they have that going for them. Trying to think what else.....
Posted by: French Fries? at September 10, 2024 11:12 AM (CV8a5)

The French are credited with developing several forms of oral interpersonal interactions... almost certainly without reason but, still. OTOH, without that we wouldn't have Kamala.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 10, 2024 11:16 AM (IUd0M)

95 The only reason I would go to France would be to visit the Eiffel Tower, Versailles, or Mont Saint-Michel.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 10, 2024 11:14 AM (v6JzV)

The Eiffel Tower is nicer from afar, but Versailles is incredible. Mont Saint-Michel is okay. Gorgeous to look at, but the town itself is just a big tourist trap. Try to take a walking tour of the tidal flats around the island instead. That is great!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2024 11:16 AM (F28vG)

96 @64

>>I believe that private citizen cannot be compelled to testify before Congress. Not that this would, in any way, be an issue.

The jailing of Steve Bannon Peter Navaro would beg to differ.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 10, 2024 11:16 AM (XV/Pl)

97 It's goose season in Alberta. Sept 8 to Dec. 23, daily bag limit is 8.

So, controlled, licensed hunting -- not hey, this poor foreigner was hungry, so why can't he just randomly kill any wildlife that has the bad luck of crossing his path.
Posted by: Lizzy

Correct. Licensed.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 10, 2024 11:16 AM (IFeV+)

98 Another is the social shunning of bastards- yes, it's pretty harsh to punish a child for something out of their control, but we had a LOT fewer bastards when we made it difficult for bastards in life.

Another is being warned out of town if you didn't work and were a burden to others.

We need to bring back workhouses again.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 10, 2024 11:16 AM (Q0kLU)

99 Fronnnnnch fries -- and Peru!!
Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2024 11:15 AM

Never. Not. Funny.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 10, 2024 11:17 AM (Wnv9h)

100 Brigitte Bardot?

Posted by: Robert

Pfffft. Sophie Marceau and Carole Bouquet.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 10, 2024 11:17 AM (xCA6C)

101 Fetchez la vache!
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Is that get the cow ?
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Run away!

Posted by: Ribbed at September 10, 2024 11:17 AM (B0mGw)

102 What is happening all over the world now is an assault on Western Civilization in all its’ aspects by Barbarism. We will either fight back or be annihilated. Simple.

Posted by: tubal at September 10, 2024 11:17 AM (PCK5/)

103 100! So I heard that Tay-Tay...

Posted by: Oddbob at September 10, 2024 11:17 AM (/y8xj)

104
Meh. He's no Marie Curie.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 10, 2024 11:17 AM (1Nxff)

105 Nat'l Kinetic Balls Day
Posted by: Rex B at September 10, 2024 11:16 AM (592Pr)

Mandatory.

https://youtu.be/JwsLpPCujCw

Posted by: Robert at September 10, 2024 11:18 AM (NYbkV)

106 Fromage.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 10, 2024 11:13 AM (IFeV+)

Foie gras.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2024 11:14 AM (F28vG)

Did you read about the French cheese factory that blew up?

De brie was everywhere.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 10, 2024 11:18 AM (zjgNU)

107 Olds rolling around and making wrinkly love on TJM's Social Security contributions.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2024 11:08 AM (eDfFs)

Ow, my knee. Ow, my shoulder. Oooh, my aching back.
That's enough for now, Was it good for you, too?

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 10, 2024 11:18 AM (Aqu9a)

108 Girl spawn: Well, I just feel like that's wrong.

Me: I'm a stop you right there. I don't care about feels. Tell me the facts. If you believe and can prove that the facts are wrong, then we can discuss that. I want facts, not feels. This isn't a fabric softener commercial.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 10, 2024 11:11 AM (4XwPj)

Just had a similar conversation with older little. That "I don't know" answer is only acceptable any more in matters that cannot be answered by reflection and introspection. Time to engage the brain.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 10, 2024 11:18 AM (AYCXd)

109 Brigitte Bardot?

Posted by: Robert

Pfffft. Sophie Marceau and Carole Bouquet.
Posted by: Archimedes

Claudia Cardinale and Juliette Binoche

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 10, 2024 11:19 AM (v6JzV)

110 Mont Saint-Michel is okay. Gorgeous to look at, but the town itself is just a big tourist trap.

Did you go to the monastery atop the town? Most people don't, and miss the best part.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 10, 2024 11:19 AM (xCA6C)

111 104
Meh. He's no Marie Curie.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 10, 2024 11:17 AM (1Nxff)

He's lucky to have had his head cut off.. He could have died of radiation poisoning....

Posted by: It's me donna at September 10, 2024 11:19 AM (IyPmt)

112 Aaand..I left my stupid sock on at 77.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 10, 2024 11:19 AM (Wnv9h)

113 They know how to prepare a steak. Their word for medium rare is essentially "the proper way", and if someone asks for well done, they consider it burnt.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

The only way you are getting a steak well done in a fancy french restaurant, it to fight the chef out back. And then, only if you win.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 10, 2024 11:19 AM (IFeV+)

114
"It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong."
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

My Ph.D. advisor, a well known and respected researcher in the physical chemistry of nucleic acids, had a new postdoc join his lab (before my time there). Apparently she had a thing for stringing beads and had suggested that the structure of tRNA resembled how her beads could be arranged. My thesis advisor's response was a lab legend: "Maybe you should do some experiments."

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 10, 2024 11:19 AM (xG4kz)

115 I will say to tell her not to just dismiss feelings though, but instead try to figure out WHY it feels wrong. Then you can judge whether your feeling was correct. (And address the fault in your understanding if you were wrong.)

It's a useful skill not only in political debates, but when you get the "something's wrong" feeling out in public. If you get taught to ignore feelings, you'll miss out on what you are sensing but can't yet articualte.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 10, 2024 11:15 AM (zjgNU)
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That's a good point. Our feelings are a warning sign that we need to delve deeper into the subject to understand the WHY that's influencing our feelings before acting on them. Leftists skip this step. They feel "wrong" and thus lash out before processing the actual reasons WHY that feels wrong.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 10, 2024 11:19 AM (7fElN)

116 "He's no Marie Curie."

How many years you gotta study radiation until you figure out it's bad for you? Apparently, about forty.

Posted by: Ribbed at September 10, 2024 11:19 AM (B0mGw)

117 Chesterton's Fence...might show that it serves an important purpose indeed!

Does anyone actually defend the Electoral College? It's one of the most hideous relics of the founding era.

The EC has nothing to do with democracy. And thinly populated states don’t need protection from states with large populations. Women in all states need protection from the Republican Party. School Children in all states need protection from the NRA. Librarians and election workers in all states need protection from lunatics. Wyoming doesn’t need protection from New York. Cause citizens in Wyoming got a godawful large voice in Washington.

I used to defend the EC as being the last bulwark against the election of a despotic rabble rouser, which the popular vote could otherwise install. But it turns out that it seems to be a failure in that department.

At some point soon, the Democratic party is going to have to take on the issue. It's too easy for the Republicans to win. Republicans just have to shore up their share of the vote approx. 46.5%. In order for the Democrats to win, they will need to do 5 basis points better, 51.5%. That's an extremely tough burden.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 10, 2024 11:19 AM (JCZqz)

118 They know how to prepare a steak. Their word for medium rare is essentially "the proper way", and if someone asks for well done, they consider it burnt.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

Nope. Not eating the losing horse from the racetrack.

Posted by: Neigh To All That at September 10, 2024 11:19 AM (CV8a5)

119 In fact, you should not remove things you do not understand. For the bulwarks of civilization my seem useless now, virtue, honor, duty, destroy it and you find out their worth, and how hard it was to build them into society to begin with. One must stop and think it through before attempting redesigning society.
Posted by: A one at September 10, 2024 11:16 AM (3/d+3)

We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honour and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and bid the geldings be fruitful. -C.S. Lewis

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 10, 2024 11:19 AM (zjgNU)

120 lI wonder how much of that happened among the commoners as opposed to the aristocracy. When you're a property owner, banning a segment of the population from inheriting is important. When you're just trying to get enough to eat, less so.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 10, 2024 11:10 AM (IUd0M)

The illegitimate were somewhat ostracized socially, but in America never legally, not even from the beginning. Thomas Jefferson publicly despised the English law inheritance laws which were designed to maximize and support powerful old families at the expense of individuals, and he made sure (with the help of many others) that American law rejected that, for the most part. In America, you can always leave your money and property to anyone you like, through a will. In England 2 centuries ago, you couldn’t.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 10, 2024 11:19 AM (GlxLj)

121 I will say to tell her not to just dismiss feelings though, but instead try to figure out WHY it feels wrong. Then you can judge whether your feeling was correct. (And address the fault in your understanding if you were wrong.)

It's a useful skill not only in political debates, but when you get the "something's wrong" feeling out in public. If you get taught to ignore feelings, you'll miss out on what you are sensing but can't yet articualte.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 10, 2024 11:15 AM (zjgNU)

This.

Posted by: Emmie at September 10, 2024 11:19 AM (Sf2cq)

122 Posted by: Archimedes at September 10, 2024 11:16 AM (xCA6C)

Good suggestions. Yes, the Normandy beaches would be a must-see also.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 10, 2024 11:20 AM (v6JzV)

123 Definition of science is that it is falsifiable, yes??

Posted by: tubal at September 10, 2024 11:20 AM (PCK5/)

124 >>>Despite Lavoisier being a loyal Frenchman, a towering figure in science, and a potentially useful ally of the revolution, they chopped off his head.

But don't worry...they forgave him 18 months later, so all is well!
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Some lefty totalitarians are willing to forgive. Mao, despite being the league leader in officially sanctioned mass murder, was will to rehabilitate. Stalin never forgave. He was the lefty trailblazer.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 10, 2024 11:20 AM (s2hsz)

125 The only reason I would go to France would be to visit the Eiffel Tower, Versailles, or Mont Saint-Michel.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

For whatever reason, I am no longer impressed nor have the desire to visit the main attractions of the world. My recent trip to London pointed out that it is a shithole of monumental heights, even though it has more than a few of world class attractions.

Nope - I prefer being in places where the folks say things like "Yes, Ma'am." or "No, Sir." and hold the door open for you.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 10, 2024 11:20 AM (WXNFJ)

126 Brigitte Bardot?

Posted by: Robert

Pfffft. Sophie Marceau and Carole Bouquet.
Posted by: Archimedes

Claudia Cardinale and Juliette Binoche
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Posted by: Marcel Marceau

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 10, 2024 11:20 AM (IFeV+)

127 My thesis advisor's response was a lab legend: "Maybe you should do some experiments."

Heh. *he said drily*

Posted by: Archimedes at September 10, 2024 11:20 AM (xCA6C)

128 Let me tell you something. In France, chapeau means "hat." Oeuf means "egg."

It's like those French have a different word for everything.

Posted by: blaster at September 10, 2024 11:20 AM (xhfG9)

129 Olds rolling around and making wrinkly love on TJM's Social Security contributions.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2024 11:08 AM (eDfFs)

Ow, my knee. Ow, my shoulder. Oooh, my aching back.
That's enough for now, Was it good for you, too?
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 10, 2024 11:18 AM (Aqu9a)

That's not funny.

Posted by: Chad Condit at September 10, 2024 11:21 AM (KDcqc)

130
The Catholic Church had a long-standing rule against the illegitimate becoming priests. Most likely to stop families from dumping their embarrassments on the Church.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 10, 2024 11:21 AM (1Nxff)

131 And thinly populated states don’t need protection from states with large populations.”

Funny to hear people from California and New York say that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 10, 2024 11:21 AM (GlxLj)

132 The Left will discover how much they hate democracy once the surging demographics tip that scale…

Posted by: tubal at September 10, 2024 11:21 AM (PCK5/)

133 "Chesterton's Antoine Lavoisier's Head" just doesn't have the same zing to it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 10, 2024 11:22 AM (VoAdT)

134 Mandatory.

https://youtu.be/JwsLpPCujCw
Posted by: Robert at September 10, 2024 11:18 AM (NYbkV)

Wonderful! And quite safe for AoS standards. Was expecting worse.

Posted by: Rex B at September 10, 2024 11:22 AM (592Pr)

135 >>>Does anyone actually defend the Electoral College? It's one of the most hideous relics of the founding era.
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Or, alternatively, it's the key to a stable Republic. One of those.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 10, 2024 11:22 AM (s2hsz)

136 "Maybe you should do some experiments."

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 10, 2024 11:19 AM (xG4kz)

That's marvelous!

Who was it (if you don't mind saying)?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2024 11:22 AM (F28vG)

137 It's too easy for the Republicans to win. Republicans just have to shore up their share of the vote approx. 46.5%. In order for the Democrats to win, they will need to do 5 basis points better, 51.5%. That's an extremely tough burden.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmission

Funny, a hundred years ago, they would have made the opposite argument.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 10, 2024 11:22 AM (lTGtQ)

138 I would love to know how my lefty family Elon-worshippers feel about him these days
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If they hate him, point out that he is African-American and they are racisty racists.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 10, 2024 11:22 AM (eRfHZ)

139 The illegitimate were somewhat ostracized socially, but in America never legally, not even from the beginning. Thomas Jefferson publicly despised the English law inheritance laws which were designed to maximize and support powerful old families at the expense of individuals, and he made sure (with the help of many others) that American law rejected that, for the most part. In America, you can always leave your money and property to anyone you like, through a will. In England 2 centuries ago, you couldn’t.

There actually was a good reason for the primogeniture laws. England was a fixed size, and all the land was taken. If not for primogeniture, the estates would have been continually subdivided to the point that they weren't economically viable. America had effectively infinite land, and so didn't have that problem. Jefferson was wrong, as usual.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 10, 2024 11:23 AM (xCA6C)

140 I did a poll on X

'do you believe in freedom of thought?'

35% said no

Posted by: Don Black at September 10, 2024 11:23 AM (/7KEl)

141 117 I used to defend the EC as being the last bulwark against the election of a despotic rabble rouser, which the popular vote could otherwise install. But it turns out that it seems to be a failure in that department.

At some point soon, the Democratic party is going to have to take on the issue. It's too easy for the Republicans to win. Republicans just have to shore up their share of the vote approx. 46.5%. In order for the Democrats to win, they will need to do 5 basis points better, 51.5%. That's an extremely tough burden.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 10, 2024 11:19 AM (JCZqz)

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1. Andrew Jackson was a rabble rouser, and the EC was actually turned against him to keep him out of power through machinations in the House. Is that what they want? To keep Andrew Jackson out of power?

2. If your entire population is in 2 states, maybe you should just worry about self-rule within those 2 states instead of trying to get the other 48 to bend to your will.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 10, 2024 11:23 AM (GBKbO)

142 JD Vance has been killing it. I think he could up his game a little bit more by having his VP campaign song be Dirty White Boy. Election over!

Posted by: Mishdog at September 10, 2024 11:24 AM (dbFAe)

143 Eric Daugherty @EricLDaugh 14h
🚨 BREAKING: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is OFF the ballot in North Carolina, state Supreme court rules, 4-3. (Carolina Journal)

Robert F. Kennedy Jr @RobertKennedyJr 1h
Bottom line: No matter what state you live in, VOTE TRUMP. A Trump victory is a Kennedy victory.

DC_Draino @DC_Draino 43m
RFK puts out powerful message to voters

A vote for Trump is a vote to have RFK in the federal gov’t draining the Big Pharma swamp

A vote for Trump is a vote for long sought justice for JFK and RFK’s assassinations

Sunlight is the best disinfectant

https://tinyurl.com/3pvshp42
2:53 minutes; about free speech not vaxx etc.

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 10, 2024 11:24 AM (CEzQx)

144 @123

>>Definition of science is that it is falsifiable, yes??

Sciences is the practice of observation and experimentation.

Falsification is a methodology by which a theory can be tested.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 10, 2024 11:24 AM (XV/Pl)

145 Thx CBD, good post. Try to explain to your average leftist that the revolution eats all is like explaining algebra to a chimp. The intellectuals will be slaughtered and if the Cultural Revolution is any guide so will the teachers.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 10, 2024 11:24 AM (tKS+g)

146 I really, really want Trump to win the "popular vote".

And not by a little.

2-3%.

That would amuse me greatly as every single progressive completely forgot their desire for the popular vote of presidents for a few years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 10, 2024 11:24 AM (GBKbO)

147
At some point soon, the Democratic party is going to have to take on the issue.

__________

Yeah, a Constitutional amendment. Two-thirds of the House and Senate, then ratification by three quarters of the states. Good luck with that.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 10, 2024 11:25 AM (1Nxff)

148 Funny, a hundred years ago, they would have made the opposite argument.

They are unburdened by what has been. Even a month ago, let alone a century.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 10, 2024 11:25 AM (/y8xj)

149 For whatever reason, I am no longer impressed nor have the desire to visit the main attractions of the world. My recent trip to London pointed out that it is a shithole of monumental heights, even though it has more than a few of world class attractions.

Nope - I prefer being in places where the folks say things like "Yes, Ma'am." or "No, Sir." and hold the door open for you.

Posted by: Tonypete

After seeing a lot of the world, the only attractions I want to see are all natural, not man made. Give me a mountain or glacier or river.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 10, 2024 11:25 AM (lTGtQ)

150 ‘ How the rabble that was running France FELT about Lavoisier was sufficient justification for his execution’

I hope someday leftists can be judged on the basis of how I feel about them.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 10, 2024 11:25 AM (jbnUc)

151 77 The French drive on the correct side of the road, so they have that going for them. Trying to think what else.....
Posted by: French Fries?

Classic Brigitte Bardot? https://tinyurl.com/bdz333ba

She was a little before my time (being only 29), but the old timers all seemed to enjoy looking at her.

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at September 10, 2024 11:25 AM (JCZqz)

152 theirs has the spirit of the French Revolution, with a little light Bolshevism for flavor.
Posted by: American Hawkman at September 10, 2024 11:14 AM (skAOD)

If only. Would be less dangerous than what they do have. Maoism. The ism that, rightfully, scared the rest of the marxist branches.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 10, 2024 11:25 AM (s9EYN)

153 147 Yeah, a Constitutional amendment. Two-thirds of the House and Senate, then ratification by three quarters of the states. Good luck with that.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 10, 2024 11:25 AM (1Nxff)

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Who needs that when you can have a living constitution?

Wait...Republican appointees aren't falling in line with stare decisis anymore?! That's not how a living constitution works!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 10, 2024 11:25 AM (GBKbO)

154 I believe that private citizen cannot be compelled to testify before Congress. Not that this would, in any way, be an issue.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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Yes, private citizens can be compelled, even arrested by the Sgt at Arms to compel testimony along with citing the citizen with contempt of Congress for not appearing and testifying.

See McGrain v. Daugherty.

What private citizens cannot be compelled is to testify before a DOJ IG investigation etc. if they are no longer in government employ.

Posted by: whig at September 10, 2024 11:26 AM (kW+z9)

155 144 @123

>>Definition of science is that it is falsifiable, yes??

Sciences is the practice of observation and experimentation.

Falsification is a methodology by which a theory can be tested.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 10, 2024 11:24 AM (XV/Pl)

Yeah, I left out “a” and “ the” but point taken.

Posted by: tubal at September 10, 2024 11:26 AM (PCK5/)

156 If not for primogeniture, the estates would have been continually subdivided to the point that they weren't economically viable.

Medieval Germany has entered the chat.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 10, 2024 11:26 AM (v6JzV)

157 If your entire population is in 2 states, maybe you should just worry about self-rule within those 2 states instead of trying to get the other 48 to bend to your will.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 10, 2024 11:23 AM (GBKbO)
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the other 48 aren't doing it right, so we must rule them. For their own good.

Posted by: Gavin Newsom at September 10, 2024 11:26 AM (s2hsz)

158 So, controlled, licensed hunting -- not hey, this poor foreigner was hungry, so why can't he just randomly kill any wildlife that has the bad luck of crossing his path.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2024 11:11 AM (Pijte)

Don't forget they're killing pets too.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 10, 2024 11:27 AM (g8Ew8)

159 >>>vRemember those stoichiometry problems in Chem 1?

Stays quiet in the corner. Never had Chem 1.

Posted by: m at September 10, 2024 11:27 AM (64Zez)

160 Hey, all,

I've gotten myself in hto water again. On July 15 over my desk, I put up the color version of the Trump "Iwo Jima" picture, which of course was used on the cover of one of the weekly "news" magazines shortly thereafter. No caption, no commentary. I have not called attention to it. Today, though, my boss tells me that HR insists I take it down. Someone complained to him -- not to me; the weasel, whoever it was, was afraid to talk to me directly.

I have a call in to the HR drone. In the meantime, I've taken pics of overtly political cartoons, Doonesbury things I believe, on the office door of someone who's had them up for years. Of course they're lefty-oriented, while mine is ostensibly not. Still, sauce for the goose.

How much of a leg do I have to stand on, do you think?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 10, 2024 11:27 AM (J2vNu)

161 @137

>>Funny, a hundred years ago, they would have made the opposite argument.

Again the rules of the game have been in place for 235 years, there is a method by which to change the rules of the game.

But that's too hard so they are constatnatly whining and trying to find away around the rules or getting the refs to rig the game.

F**king losers.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 10, 2024 11:27 AM (XV/Pl)

162 And thinly populated states don’t need protection from states with large populations.”

Funny to hear people from California and New York say that.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 10, 2024 11:21 AM (GlxLj)

Illinois is a great example of why the founders were so wise to balance interests to avoid the power of concentrated populations.

Almost all of Illinois is red. DEEP red.

But because Chicago has the population, it rules against the interests of the rest of the state.

And the left thinks that is just that the city dwellers tell the rural rubes how they are allowed to live.

It's also why Reynolds v. Sims is likely the most pernicious Supreme Court ruling that is virtually unknown.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 10, 2024 11:27 AM (zjgNU)

163 I did a poll on X

'do you believe in freedom of thought?'

35% said no

I'm going to assume that of that 35%, at least 25 were people just f*ckin' wit' ya. Because the alternative is too horrible to contemplate.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 10, 2024 11:27 AM (/y8xj)

164 An alternative is to build a gigantic luxurious wall around west coastal states and New England… with border guards….

Posted by: tubal at September 10, 2024 11:28 AM (PCK5/)

165 I'm going to assume that of that 35%, at least 25 were people just f*ckin' wit' ya. Because the alternative is too horrible to contemplate.
Posted by: Oddbob at September 10, 2024 11:27 AM (/y8xj)

Determinists are scary, man.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 10, 2024 11:28 AM (VoAdT)

166 Don't forget they're killing pets too.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops

"There is no seasonal limits on pets".

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 10, 2024 11:28 AM (lTGtQ)

167
‘ EM hog wrasslers ’

I didn’t see the earlier thread. Is this what we’re calling the people talking about sportsball now?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 10, 2024 11:29 AM (jbnUc)

168
Oh, yeah, Mister Smartypants Dildo? What about Galileo???

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 10, 2024 11:29 AM (1Nxff)

169 How much of a leg do I have to stand on, do you think?

At a university? Yer screwed.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 10, 2024 11:29 AM (/y8xj)

170 Head chopping, chemistry, the feelz, and for God's sake, the FRENCH!

What did I walk in to this morning?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 10, 2024 11:29 AM (ufFY8)

171 When Trump is reelected, he needs to call his newly-reestablished southern border fence construction, "Chesterton's Fence."

Posted by: Dirac_Delta at September 10, 2024 11:29 AM (JSF6W)

172 If your entire population is in 2 states, maybe you should just worry about self-rule within those 2 states instead of trying to get the other 48 to bend to your will.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 10, 2024 11:23 AM (GBKbO)

The people in the other 48 are doing it WRONG! -- DU

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 10, 2024 11:29 AM (IUd0M)

173 On the way to my doctor's appointment this morning, I saw a bunch of folks at a busy intersection waving Trump flags and signs and US flags. I honked as I passed to show my support.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 10, 2024 11:29 AM (v6JzV)

174 Never had Chem 1.

Posted by: m at September 10, 2024 11:27 AM (64Zez)

I think basic science education is vitally important for a culture to survive. It teaches a logical way to see the world, and as I pointed out in my post, we seem to be missing that!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2024 11:29 AM (F28vG)

175 "He freed us from thinking." - One Hitler Youth.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 10, 2024 11:29 AM (HkAx+)

176 Below is a 15-point list of debate rules and parameters, according to ABC News:

- 90-minute debate
- Anchors Linsey Davis and David Muir will moderate
- Two commercial breaks
- No audience in the room
- Only the moderators will ask questions
- Microphones will only be live for the candidate whose turn it is to speak
- No opening statements
- Two minutes to answer each question with a two-minute rebuttal
- One minute for a follow-up, clarification, or response
- Via a coin flip, Trump selected to give the last closing statement
- Harris selected the right podium position
- No props
- No pre-written notes
- Each will have a pen, a pad of paper, and a bottle of water
- Campaign staff will not coach candidates during commercial breaks

Posted by: SMOD at September 10, 2024 11:30 AM (RHGPo)

177 How much of a leg do I have to stand on, do you think?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 10, 2024 11:27 AM (J2vNu)

*Sharpens ax*

Posted by: Lefty Cvnt in HR at September 10, 2024 11:30 AM (FD/hn)

178 "How much of a leg do I have to stand on, do you think?"

Depends on how important you are to the company. Turn it around on them. Make them explain why it's bad. They will try to make you into the bad guy. Don't accept their shame. Refuse to concede that you did anything wrong and make them spell out what the real issue is.

Posted by: Ribbed at September 10, 2024 11:30 AM (B0mGw)

179 is like explaining algebra to a chimp.
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Penny? Would you mind sorting these coins for me by size? I have something in my eye.

Posted by: Dr Amy Farrah Fowler at September 10, 2024 11:30 AM (CEzQx)

180 9 Along those lines, I think the squad is pushing for a posthumous pardon for Jeffrey Epstein.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 10, 2024 11:02 AM (lTGtQ)

Posthumous as in: when the squad is dead? I mean, like, are they offering themselves up?

Posted by: m at September 10, 2024 11:30 AM (64Zez)

181
So, DU, it's all right for Texas and Florida to dictate to the other 48 states?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 10, 2024 11:30 AM (1Nxff)

182 - Harris selected the right podium position

Posted by: SMOD at September 10, 2024 11:30 AM (RHGPo)

"I meant my right, not his!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 10, 2024 11:31 AM (VoAdT)

183 Give me a mountain or glacier or river.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 10, 2024 11:25 AM (lTGtQ)

I bestow upon you the Seine. Now clean that shit up, it's filthy.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 10, 2024 11:31 AM (IUd0M)

184 181
So, DU, it's all right for Texas and Florida to dictate to the other 48 states?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 10, 2024 11:30 AM (1Nx

======

The only reason TX and FL aren't Democrat run is because Republicans suppress black votes there.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 10, 2024 11:31 AM (GBKbO)

185 I have a call in to the HR drone. In the meantime, I've taken pics of overtly political cartoons, Doonesbury things I believe, on the office door of someone who's had them up for years. Of course they're lefty-oriented, while mine is ostensibly not. Still, sauce for the goose.

How much of a leg do I have to stand on, do you think?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 10, 2024 11:27 AM (J2vNu)
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Is that other person tenured faculty? If so, you got nothing.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 10, 2024 11:31 AM (7fElN)

186 181
So, DU, it's all right for Texas and Florida to dictate to the other 48 states?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

That's dangerous, undemocratic fascism!!

Posted by: DU at September 10, 2024 11:31 AM (JCZqz)

187 171 When Trump is reelected, he needs to call his newly-reestablished southern border fence construction, "Chesterton's Fence."

The media: Trump in favor of letting Britain define our border.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 10, 2024 11:32 AM (xCA6C)

188 The progressive obsession to create a perfect society is the root problem… because it ignores the fundamental truth that this world will never be, cannot be perfect. Attempts at perfection wreak havoc….. the fallen-ness of our world and humanity needs to be recognized in our governing structures. That was the genius of our founders… checks and balances. Many angry and confused yutes are confused and angry because they’ve been fed the line their whole lives that no discomfort or imperfection need be tolerated…. Then bad stuff happens and makes them mad

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 10, 2024 11:32 AM (5MZNC)

189 "The only reason TX and FL aren't Democrat run is because Republicans suppress black votes there."

One quick look at any major city's voting districts puts that lie to bed quickly. They are grotesque distortions of geography.

Posted by: Ribbed at September 10, 2024 11:32 AM (B0mGw)

190 The only reason TX and FL aren't Democrat run is because Republicans suppress black votes there.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 10, 2024 11:31 AM (GBKbO)

It's true. The lady on NPR told me so.

Or was that a dude?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 10, 2024 11:32 AM (VoAdT)

191 Posted by: SMOD at September 10, 2024 11:30 AM (RHGPo)

Seems fair enough.

Posted by: IC - #FJB at September 10, 2024 11:33 AM (ZtyUu)

192 Make Lobotomies Great Again!!

Posted by: Jak Sucio at September 10, 2024 11:33 AM (Aoykm)

193 Does anyone actually defend the Electoral College? It's one of the most hideous relics of the founding era.

It truly astonishes me how far America has come that an anonymous partisan homunculus with a basic grade-school education can out-think and surpass the wisdom of old white men like Madison, Jefferson and Adams.

We are not worthy to have such towering intellect mouldering away in anonymity.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 10, 2024 11:33 AM (Q0kLU)

194 The modern left believes you can mold reality...but only if everyone believes it.

So why can't a man become a woman? Because *YOU* won't go along with it.

Same reason Biden/Obamanomics didn't work, the clot shot didn't work, and on and on.

The only way then for them to get their utopia? Remove...you.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 10, 2024 11:33 AM (oZhjI)

195 146 I really, really want Trump to win the "popular vote".

And not by a little.

2-3%.

That would amuse me greatly as every single progressive completely forgot their desire for the popular vote of presidents for a few years.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 10, 2024 11:24 AM (GBKbO

Colorado was one of the states talking about giving their electoral votes to the popular vote winner after 2016. (I do not know if they followed through.) In 2020, I wanted them to eat their hats when Trump won the popular vote -- and then the stupid ballot-harvesting and other shenanigans camouflaged the actual vote. Disappointed.

Posted by: Emmie at September 10, 2024 11:33 AM (Sf2cq)

196 f your entire population is in 2 states, maybe you should just worry about self-rule within those 2 states instead of trying to get the other 48 to bend to your will.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 10, 2024 11:23 AM (GBKbO)

Best solution for the EC question. Every state has the same number of electoral votes.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 10, 2024 11:33 AM (g8Ew8)

197 Amazingly the Catholic Church never chopped Galileo's head off.

Unlike Leftists or Muslims are wont to do.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 10, 2024 11:33 AM (HkAx+)

198 And since feelings change, it was also reasonable in their twisted and illogical world-view that Lavoisier be rehabilitated.

So, there's hope for me?

Posted by: Maple Syrup on French Toast at September 10, 2024 11:34 AM (a3Q+t)

199 I keep forgetting that National Propaganda Radio is still in existence…

Posted by: tubal at September 10, 2024 11:34 AM (PCK5/)

200 174 Never had Chem 1.

Posted by: m at September 10, 2024 11:27 AM (64Zez)

I think basic science education is vitally important for a culture to survive. It teaches a logical way to see the world, and as I pointed out in my post, we seem to be missing that!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2024 11:29 AM (F28vG)

I do, too. And I was always open to taking classes in fields that weren't my strength. But some things are just beyond my ken.

Posted by: m at September 10, 2024 11:34 AM (64Zez)

201 The only reason TX and FL aren't Democrat run is because Republicans suppress black votes there.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going full throttle with Tony Scott at September 10, 2024 11:31 AM

That begs the question .....why can't republicans do that in every state? I mean if it is that easy you would think they would do it in every state.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 10, 2024 11:34 AM (QNSds)

202 Amazingly the Catholic Church never chopped Galileo's head off.

Unlike Leftists or Muslims are wont to do.
Posted by: Anna Puma

Galileo's problem was that he was an asshoe who pissed off the pope who had originally supported him.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 10, 2024 11:34 AM (v6JzV)

203 I like the Electoral College. It is delightfully arcane and hard to understand.

Jokes aside, the EC's purpose is to ensure that everybody- big states and small- has a hand in electing the Preznit.

Sort of a national consensus.

Unless I'm wrong.

Posted by: Don Black at September 10, 2024 11:35 AM (/7KEl)

204 The only reason TX and FL aren't Democrat run is because Republicans suppress black votes there.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Black people can't get ID! They, like, can't afford internet, or a bus pass. They probably can't understand or pass a driving test to get a license, either! And they obviously won't have a birth certificate, because they're too poor to be born at a hospital and don't have fathers present!

Posted by: Racist Leftists who are too clueless to realize their racism at September 10, 2024 11:35 AM (JCZqz)

205 There actually was a good reason for the primogeniture laws. England was a fixed size, and all the land was taken. If not for primogeniture, the estates would have been continually subdivided to the point that they weren't economically viable. America had effectively infinite land, and so didn't have that problem. Jefferson was wrong, as usual.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 10, 2024 11:23 AM (xCA6C)

You’re comparing to the Salic Law (Continental) which split estates up. English inheritance law had some really terrible parts; estate to the first born, but ONLY if that was a man. If there was no male heir the estate could go to a male second cousin and the decedent’s immediate family would be tossed out with nothing.

Probably why much of the gay old aristocracy was happy to recognize their wife’s sons who’d been fathered by randy young stable boys - at least they could say they had an heir.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 10, 2024 11:35 AM (GlxLj)

206 So, DU, it's all right for Texas and Florida to dictate to the other 48 states?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 10, 2024 11:30 AM (1Nxff)

No. They're doing it WRONG! -- DU

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 10, 2024 11:35 AM (IUd0M)

207 If you can't understand the necessity of an electoral college in a federal system, you probably shouldn't be voting.

Posted by: Ribbed at September 10, 2024 11:35 AM (B0mGw)

208 The Electoral College… created back when a State was considered important.

Posted by: tubal at September 10, 2024 11:36 AM (PCK5/)

209 The trouble with loyalty to a cause is that the cause will always betray you

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at September 10, 2024 11:36 AM (iFTx/)

210 Link at DirectorBlue:

• Kamala Harris Is Secluded In A Hotel With A Trump Impersonator

That's hilarious because an impersonator by definition is a caricaturist. She's practicing debating a cartoon instead of an actual person.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 10, 2024 11:36 AM (/y8xj)

211 With Just Months Left In His Term, SEC Chair Gensler Will Likely Abandon Nearly All Of His ESG Initiatives

“It’s clear the commission leadership is exhausted and feeling buffeted by the courts, Congress and industry complaints.”

Posted by: SMOD at September 10, 2024 11:36 AM (RHGPo)

212 You’re comparing to the Salic Law (Continental) which split estates up. English inheritance law had some really terrible parts; estate to the first born, but ONLY if that was a man.

I think that's effectively the same as what I said. Most of the time, it went to the first son, and since fertility was high, there was usually one of those lying around.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 10, 2024 11:37 AM (xCA6C)

213 I loved chemistry when I was in HS. I actually thought balancing chemical equations was fun.

If I hadn't been such a history/foreign-language nut, I might have actually made in some of the hard sciences.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 10, 2024 11:37 AM (v6JzV)

214 Turn it around on them. Make them explain why it's bad. They will try to make you into the bad guy. Don't accept their shame. Refuse to concede that you did anything wrong and make them spell out what the real issue is.
Posted by: Ribbed at September 10, 2024

***
Exactly my plan. I can point to overtly political items all over campus; yet mine is merely a picture of a man's courage under extreme stress, and one that appeared on the cover of a national publication.

Yet another reason I hate this damned place and can't wait to flee.

I've heard back from the HR rep, and she says it is "inappropriate." I've demanded, in writing, an explanation of that.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 10, 2024 11:37 AM (J2vNu)

215 Every state has the same number of electoral votes.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 10, 2024 11:33 AM

One could apply this same logic to the U.S. Senate.

But it's totes unfair that North Dakota or Wyoming, with their one mouth-breathing troglodyte per 100 square miles, have the same representation as California!!! Because Democracy!! And Power. But mostly power.

Posted by: California at September 10, 2024 11:37 AM (a3Q+t)

216 Medieval Germany has entered the chat.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 10, 2024 11:26 AM (v6JzV)

Likewise the "seigneuries" in Quebec.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 10, 2024 11:37 AM (TADI7)

217 Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 10, 2024 11:19 AM (JCZqz)

Honestly, I really don't think reconciliation with the left is possible. I don't see how eventually won't break up as a nation.

Posted by: IC - #FJB at September 10, 2024 11:37 AM (ZtyUu)

218 Trump should release a little bit of video of him standing next to a Harris cardboard cut out.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 10, 2024 11:37 AM (HkAx+)

219 Thermidorian Reaction refers to the parliamentary revolt initiated on 9 Thermidor, year II (July 27, 1794)1. It was a coup d’état within the French Revolution against the leaders of the Jacobin Club who dominated the Committee of Public Safety.

Posted by: SMOD at September 10, 2024 11:37 AM (RHGPo)

220 “It’s clear the commission leadership is exhausted and feeling buffeted by the courts, Congress and industry complaints.”

*looks for a rubber hose to strap my arm and a clean needle*

Posted by: Ribbed at September 10, 2024 11:37 AM (B0mGw)

221 Sometimes you feel like a nut.
Sometimes you don't.

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at September 10, 2024 11:37 AM (VGRuw)

222 Best solution for the EC question. Every state has the same number of electoral votes.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 10, 2024 11:33 AM (g8Ew

Cities with populations above 500K don't contribute to their state totals for federal offices.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 10, 2024 11:37 AM (IUd0M)

223 204 Black people can't get ID!

Or it's too expensive to get a free one.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 10, 2024 11:38 AM (+4yJ5)

224 Exactly my plan. I can point to overtly political items all over campus; yet mine is merely a picture of a man's courage under extreme stress, and one that appeared on the cover of a national publication.

Yet another reason I hate this damned place and can't wait to flee.

I've heard back from the HR rep, and she says it is "inappropriate." I've demanded, in writing, an explanation of that.
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Don't get angry. If you lose your cool, they win. They fear confrontation because their position is inherently dishonest.

Posted by: Ribbed at September 10, 2024 11:39 AM (B0mGw)

225 Don't get angry. If you lose your cool, they win. They fear confrontation because their position is inherently dishonest.

And whatever you do, while you're talking with them, avoid the shakeweight motion.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 10, 2024 11:39 AM (xCA6C)

226 How much of a leg do I have to stand on, do you think?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 10, 2024 11:27 AM (J2vNu)

Get yourself fired unjustly, sue for wrongful dismissal, and retire to Indiana!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 10, 2024 11:39 AM (TADI7)

227 Elon Musk Projected To Be World's First Trillionaire By 2027, Fueled By Space Race Bets

Posted by: SMOD at September 10, 2024 11:40 AM (RHGPo)

228 @203

>>Unless I'm wrong.

The founding fathers wanted something as far removed from a direct democracy as you could possible get.

They wanted competing interests and electoral tests of strength that would produce as pure a political result as possible.

The EC is pure magic.

We basically have to find a way to institute an EC at the state level, which should be part of the America First/MAGA agenda.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 10, 2024 11:40 AM (XV/Pl)

229 Mark Schmidt @solarschmidt 1h Replying to @Bhess @asymmetricinfo
How do you know that he didn’t buy the goose or legally hunt it?
I don’t know either but I’m not jumping to conclusions either.

Oilfield Rando @Oilfield_Rando 1h
Hey bigots, how do you know that Haitian didn’t just go to the Canada Goose store?

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 10, 2024 11:40 AM (CEzQx)

230 But it's totes unfair that North Dakota or Wyoming, with their one mouth-breathing troglodyte per 100 square miles, have the same representation as California!!! Because Democracy!! And Power. But mostly power.

Posted by: California

Fifty percent plus one being able to control everyones' lives was tried, in ancient Greece. They should read a history book.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 10, 2024 11:40 AM (lTGtQ)

231 • Kamala Harris Is Secluded In A Hotel With A Trump Impersonator

That's hilarious because an impersonator by definition is a caricaturist. She's practicing debating a cartoon instead of an actual person.
Posted by: Oddbob at September 10, 2024 11:36 AM (/y8xj)

Can't wait to watching Harris become visibly disturbed that she has to debate a flesh and blood human being and not the cartoon that lives in her own head and the heads of everyone she surrounds herself with...

And then simultaneously watching Trump become visibly amused that he has to debate a flesh and blood cartoon and not an actual human being....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 10, 2024 11:40 AM (VoAdT)

232 Thermidorian Reaction refers to the parliamentary revolt initiated on 9 Thermidor, year II (July 27, 1794)1.

It's secondary meaning is the allergic response to lobster.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 10, 2024 11:40 AM (xCA6C)

233 The only reason TX and FL aren't Democrat run is because Republicans suppress black votes there.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Black people can't get ID! They, like, can't afford internet, or a bus pass. They probably can't understand or pass a driving test to get a license, either! And they obviously won't have a birth certificate, because they're too poor to be born at a hospital and don't have fathers present!
Posted by: Racist Leftists who are too clueless to realize their racism at September 10, 2024 11:35 AM (JCZqz)

Yeah! And the Republican AG Paxton is warning saintly Hidalgo against willy-nilly mailing out voter registration forms to Harris County. Voter suppression!!

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 10, 2024 11:40 AM (Aqu9a)

234 Most of the time, it went to the first son, and since fertility was high, there was usually one of those lying around.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 10, 2024 11:37 AM (xCA6C)

OTOH, child mortality was also pretty high and there was always the prospect of a good war.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 10, 2024 11:41 AM (IUd0M)

235 Mmm. Lobster thermidor.

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 10, 2024 11:41 AM (CEzQx)

236 Elon Musk Projected To Be World's First Trillionaire By 2027, Fueled By Space Race Bets

I'll bet when he sees Bezos he tells him to get his bags.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 10, 2024 11:41 AM (xCA6C)

237 Honestly, I really don't think reconciliation with the left is possible. I don't see how eventually won't break up as a nation.
Posted by: IC

Sorry. I don't want to reconcile with those fruits, flakes & nuts v

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 10, 2024 11:41 AM (IFeV+)

238 Imagine this.

Trump and Harris walk up and take their positions. Introductions are done.

Trump, "I will now let Tulsi Gabbard debate the Vide President."

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 10, 2024 11:42 AM (HkAx+)

239 Kamala Harris Is Secluded In A Hotel With A Trump Impersonator

I picture her cackling at the jokey mannerism impressions

meanwhile Trump is practicing with Tulsi, who pretty much ended Kamala's primary run at a debate

Posted by: brak at September 10, 2024 11:42 AM (NGHTx)

240 Is that other person tenured faculty? If so, you got nothing.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 10, 2024

***
Yes, he is. And I don't expect anything except to make them explain the difference -- to put them through some trouble. I had enough difficulty with these drones during the Sniffle Scare and Face Diaper Hoax. The coffee shop on campus has excommunicated me for complimenting a staffer. And now this.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 10, 2024 11:42 AM (J2vNu)

241 Who in the hell uses a lobster as a humidor?
-- Bill Clinton

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 10, 2024 11:42 AM (v6JzV)

242 > Honestly, I really don't think reconciliation with the left is possible.
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It's not. But it's to the federal government's best interests to keep the nation intact. If for no other reason than the revenue.

So, some sort of "break up" is highly unlikely IMO.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 10, 2024 11:42 AM (Q4IgG)

243 OTOH, child mortality was also pretty high and there was always the prospect of a good war.

There's a reason why the non-first born sons went into the military, the clergy, or emigrated to America.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 10, 2024 11:42 AM (xCA6C)

244 As vice president, Kamala Harris cast the tie-breaking vote that’s now making seniors’ Medicare Part D premiums skyrocket faster than a SpaceX rocket. The Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) might as well be renamed the “Inflation of Medicare Premiums Act.” The IRA or IMPA has increased seniors’ Medicare Part D premiums by more than 20 percent this year and will increase their premiums by more than 50 percent next year. And it could be even higher—some say double.

Posted by: SMOD at September 10, 2024 11:42 AM (RHGPo)

245 Honestly, I really don't think reconciliation with the left is possible. I don't see how eventually won't break up as a nation.
Posted by: IC - #FJB at September 10, 2024 11:37 AM (ZtyUu)

Folks on the right: I won't give up a single square inch of territory.
Folks on the left: I won't give up a single sentient being to enslave.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 10, 2024 11:42 AM (IUd0M)

246 --BREAKING--FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE--NEW POLLING DATA--

Our latest, most recent, utterly straight up honest polling results further solidify the fact that our supreme lord and savior, slay kween kamala, will trounce, TROUNCE bad orange man in tonight debate1!!!!1!1

Poll question: Will our supreme lord and savior, slay kween kamala, trounce, TROUNCE!! bad orange man in tonight debate1!!!!1!1?

Yes: 1,000,000,000 quadbuhzilliontrillionbillionmillon%

No: 0.000%

Posted by: SEriOus poLlinG grOuP InC! at September 10, 2024 11:43 AM (5hfjS)

247 The IRA or IMPA has increased seniors’ Medicare Part D premiums by more than 20 percent this year and will increase their premiums by more than 50 percent next year. And it could be even higher—some say double.

Well, somebody has to pay for the "free" health care for illegals.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 10, 2024 11:44 AM (xCA6C)

248 The Goose Store.

Come on. For real?

The Goose Store?

This is what we're locked in a civilizational struggle with for the future of the electorate and the republic? "Maybe he went to the Goose Store"?

That's it. I'm out. Fuck democracy. Fuck republics. Get me a colander.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 10, 2024 11:44 AM (VoAdT)

249 I've heard back from the HR rep, and she says it is "inappropriate." I've demanded, in writing, an explanation of that.
-------
Don't get angry. If you lose your cool, they win. They fear confrontation because their position is inherently dishonest.
Posted by: Ribbed at September 10, 2024

***
Right. When I say I "demanded," I mean only that I asked firmly, with no "Please, sir, may I have another?" wording.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 10, 2024 11:44 AM (J2vNu)

250 Elon Musk Projected To Be World's First Trillionaire By 2027, Fueled By Space Race Bets
Posted by: SMOD

If he puts people on Mars first....

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 10, 2024 11:44 AM (IFeV+)

251 Thermidorian Reaction refers to the parliamentary revolt initiated on 9 Thermidor, year II (July 27, 1794)1.

It's secondary meaning is the allergic response to lobster.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 10, 2024 11:40 AM (xCA6C)

Hello.

Posted by: Mathesar at September 10, 2024 11:44 AM (Aqu9a)

252 Best solution for the EC question. Every state has the same number of electoral votes.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 10, 2024 11:33 AM (g8Ew

It’s astounding that our schools apparently no longer teach about the Compromise of 1787, because when you read the discussions that lead to it, you find that *every* objection and every supporting argument for the EC was made then and argued far more eloquently and intelligently than is being done today.

There seriously has not been a single new argument for or against the EC made in nearly 250 years now. And an amusing case of how History may not repeat, but it rhymes, is that one of the biggest opponents of the EC in 1787 was Gov. Clinton of New York.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 10, 2024 11:44 AM (GlxLj)

253 The trouble with loyalty to a cause is that the cause will always betray you
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade
--------

Many supporters of the French Revolution ended up at the guillotine. Primarily because they advocated a return to civil law and order.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 10, 2024 11:45 AM (XeU6L)

254 Fifty percent plus one being able to control everyones' lives was tried, in ancient Greece. They should read a history book.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 10, 2024 11:40 AM (lTGtQ)

We're in favor of Greek. -- the left

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 10, 2024 11:45 AM (IUd0M)

255 I think basic science education is vitally important for a culture to survive. It teaches a logical way to see the world, and as I pointed out in my post, we seem to be missing that!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2024 11:29 AM (F28vG)
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Agreed. Most people benefit from having a working knowledge of basic biology/chemistry/physics, even if they are not going into those fields.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 10, 2024 11:45 AM (7fElN)

256 Or it's too expensive to get a free one.

How can you expect black people to get to the DMV if they don't have a driver's license?

Posted by: Schmart Lefty at September 10, 2024 11:45 AM (/y8xj)

257 Insty:

THE NEW SPACE RACE: NASA Postpones Upcoming Mars Mission, Citing Delays With Bezos’s Big Rocket.

Blue Origin has been developing its New Glenn rocket for more than a decade, with its inaugural launch initially planned for 2020.

The next launch window opens in March, assuming New Glenn is finally ready by then.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 10, 2024 11:45 AM (xCA6C)

258 Good luck, Wolfus.

Posted by: Ribbed at September 10, 2024 11:45 AM (B0mGw)

259 >>>Elon Musk Projected To Be World's First Trillionaire By 2027, Fueled By Space Race Bets

THEY'RE PUTTING PEOPLE ON TRAINS TO MARS!!!

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 10, 2024 11:45 AM (AYCXd)

260 Marxists don't care if it's one state dictating the country or one vote, as long as it is theirs. Any discussion of anything involving principles or beliefs is a ruse.

Posted by: ... at September 10, 2024 11:45 AM (zlPHs)

261 Just another example of the ongoing cuntefaction of America. This is an existential threat, and we ignore it at our peril

Posted by: Ash is a damn robot! at September 10, 2024 11:45 AM (kvDvI)

262 We basically have to find a way to institute an EC at the state level, which should be part of the America First/MAGA agenda.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 10, 2024 11:40 AM (XV/Pl)

It's illegal to do that according to the Supreme Court.

Some states DID have an EC type system and the Supreme Court destroyed it. (Reynolds v. Sims)

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 10, 2024 11:46 AM (zjgNU)

263 Just joking. Lighten up, people.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 10, 2024 11:46 AM (AYCXd)

264 Get yourself fired unjustly, sue for wrongful dismissal, and retire to Indiana!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 10, 2024

***
A dream, a dream . . . I have a dream . . .

The challenge would be to find a lawyer who would take it on. I haven't been injured in a crash, so none of the ambulance chasers I see advertising on TV would be interested in this.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 10, 2024 11:46 AM (J2vNu)

265 We basically have to find a way to institute an EC at the state level, which should be part of the America First/MAGA agenda.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 10, 2024 11:40 AM (XV/Pl)

Eazy peezy. All states have counties. Build an EC model from that.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 10, 2024 11:46 AM (g8Ew8)

266 Kamala Harris Is Secluded In A Hotel With A Trump Impersonator

Because she wants to date him? She should worry a little more about the debate and less about trysts.

Posted by: t-bird at September 10, 2024 11:46 AM (KfN19)

267 Kamala Harris Is Secluded In A Hotel With A Trump Impersonator

She always wanted Trump to take her to pound town.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 10, 2024 11:46 AM (IFeV+)

268 Many supporters of the French Revolution ended up at the guillotine. Primarily because they advocated a return to civil law and order.

you can never be leftist enough for the left

Posted by: brak at September 10, 2024 11:46 AM (NGHTx)

269 The Goose Store.

Come on. For real?

The Goose Store?

This is what we're locked in a civilizational struggle with for the future of the electorate and the republic? "Maybe he went to the Goose Store"?

That's it. I'm out. Fuck democracy. Fuck republics. Get me a colander.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 10, 2024 11:44 AM (VoAdT)

Goose gets his own store? The fuck? I'm the big hero. Twice, even!

Posted by: Maverick at September 10, 2024 11:47 AM (Aqu9a)

270 Eazy peezy. All states have counties. Build an EC model from that.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons

That's what the Supreme Court stupidly shot down.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 10, 2024 11:47 AM (v6JzV)

271 How can you expect black people to get to the DMV if they don't have a driver's license?
Posted by: Schmart Lefty at September 10, 2024 11:45 AM (/y8xj)

When I lived in CA, I knew the public transportation system so well that my friends called me for routes instead of the bus company.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 10, 2024 11:47 AM (+4yJ5)

272 267 Kamala Harris Is Secluded In A Hotel With A Trump Impersonator

She always wanted Trump to take her to pound town.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 10, 2024 11:46 AM (IFeV+)

Trump has better taste than that

Posted by: It's me donna at September 10, 2024 11:48 AM (IyPmt)

273 How much of a leg do I have to stand on, do you think?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 10, 2024 11:27 AM

Is this the hill to die on? If not, you'll probably have to take it down.

What you can do is what you're starting to do, which is demand a written policy that clarifies what is acceptable, and what is not, and that it be universally applied.

I was at a company in the '80s in a (heavily male) engineering group. Complaints were issued about some cheesecake postcards (bikini women) that several engineers had up in their cubes. It was pointed out that a woman had 20+ postcards of Speedo-clad men in her cube. Now, nobody really cared about that, but it was offered as a sauce gander/goose, and after (I found out from a friend in HR) internal HR wailing and gnashing, she was instructed to take it down.

That's probably the best you can hope for.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 10, 2024 11:48 AM (a3Q+t)

274 "The challenge would be to find a lawyer who would take it on. I haven't been injured in a crash, so none of the ambulance chasers I see advertising on TV would be interested in this."

Here in Louisiana, they have at will employment. They can fire you for any reason at any time.

Posted by: Ribbed at September 10, 2024 11:48 AM (B0mGw)

275 How much of a leg do I have to stand on, do you think?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
=====
AAUP and FIRE are two organizations that are directly supportive of free speech and have a lot of useful information. Generally speaking, any speech restriction must be content neutral (as in you cannot silence one for their views but permit another to express them).

Second, speech codes must be specific as to what is not permitted by employees. That should be in the employee handbook.

Look up what your university policies are as any HR drone should use those as a starting point to any discussion about what you posted. And as you point out, they cannot allow one person to post pro Dem stuff without permitting someone else to post something different.

From AAUP, "Courts first determine whether a professor is speaking on a matter of public concern and, if so, whether the professor's speech outweighs the state's interest in an efficient academic workplace. Courts examine the 'content, form, and context of a given statement' in determining whether a particular remark addresses a matter of public concern."

Posted by: whig at September 10, 2024 11:49 AM (kW+z9)

276 * preemptive desock because I really don't want to get caught with that one *

Posted by: Oddbob at September 10, 2024 11:49 AM (/y8xj)

277 That's what the Supreme Court stupidly shot down.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 10, 2024 11:47 AM (v6JzV)

Oh, it wasn't stupidity, it was evil.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 10, 2024 11:49 AM (zjgNU)

278 There's a reason why the non-first born sons went into the military, the clergy, or emigrated to America.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 10, 2024 11:42 AM (xCA6C)

I believe the progression was:
First Born Son - landed gentry, gets the Estate.
Second Born Son - goes to the Church, if family is important enough will be a Bishop.
Third Born Son - to the Army with you, make your name!
Fourth Born and lower - eithe be a highwayman, or a politician.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 10, 2024 11:49 AM (GlxLj)

279 We basically have to find a way to institute an EC at the state level, which should be part of the America First/MAGA agenda.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 10, 2024 11:40 AM (XV/Pl)

It's illegal to do that according to the Supreme Court.

Some states DID have an EC type system and the Supreme Court destroyed it. (Reynolds v. Sims)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 10, 2024 11:46 AM (zjgNU)

That's unconstitutional. The Constitution gives states the right to do it. This needs to be reintroduced to the SCOTUS.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 10, 2024 11:49 AM (g8Ew8)

280 I don't know that Kamala wants to be president. She's never worked a day in her life and seems to prefer it that way. Having actual responsibility is something the woman appears to shun.

Kamala sort of tosses some leftist gibberish dressing on top of her world salad, but, beyond that, doesn't seem all that interested in doing anything other than the bare minimum.

She was drafted and I don't think she's all that happy about it.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 10, 2024 11:50 AM (tT6L1)

281 Some states DID have an EC type system and the Supreme Court destroyed it. (Reynolds v. Sims)

1 county = 1 state senator in AL IIRC

SC said no, 14th amendment equal protection violation

another Warren court decison pulled out of a hat

Posted by: brak at September 10, 2024 11:50 AM (NGHTx)

282 The Associated Press @AP 15h
Wolf pack blamed in Colorado livestock attacks is captured and will be relocated apnews.com/article/wolf-pack…

Oilfield Rando @Oilfield_Rando 14h
It’s pretty wild how Colorado handles killer wolves and killer Venezuelan gang members with the exact same technique

Libs of TikTok @libsoftiktok 12h
BREAKING: Venezualan gang Tren de Aragua have reportedly taken over a hotel in El Paso, TX.

The El Paso County Attorney’s office just filed a restraining order against the hotel. They allege the owner has allowed illegal activity to go on for months. Police have been called there over 700 times in 2 years.

Surveillance photos show 2 men in an altercation and a migrant holding a weapon.

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 10, 2024 11:50 AM (CEzQx)

283 Blue Origin has been developing its New Glenn rocket for more than a decade, with its inaugural launch initially planned for 2020.

The next launch window opens in March, assuming New Glenn is finally ready by then.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 10, 2024 11:45 AM (xCA6C)

Has Blue Origin achieved orbit? I don't think so but I may have missed it. Seems like a milestone you'd want to reach prior to trying to hit Mars.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 10, 2024 11:50 AM (IUd0M)

284 Many supporters of the French Revolution ended up at the guillotine.

"Hey, you were awfully easy to convince to commit treason with us..."

Posted by: t-bird at September 10, 2024 11:51 AM (KfN19)

285 The challenge would be to find a lawyer who would take it on. I haven't been injured in a crash, so none of the ambulance chasers I see advertising on TV would be interested in this.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 10, 2024 11:46 AM

You want a labor lawyer. If you can find a couple more people affected by similar, you can file a class action, which really gets management's attention.

Labor lawyers are a notch above PI lawyers, status-wise.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 10, 2024 11:51 AM (a3Q+t)

286 Here in Louisiana, they have at will employment. They can fire you for any reason at any time.
Posted by: Ribbed at September 10, 2024 11:48 AM (B0mGw)

Most southern and western states are like that, except the left coast.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 10, 2024 11:51 AM (GlxLj)

287 How much of a leg do I have to stand on, do you think?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 10, 2024 11:27 AM (J2vNu)
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Saw that you heard back and it stated inappropriate.

That won't fly in any court. The reason for why it is inappropriate must be defined. If they say no political postings, fine, but all the other stuff must come down. If they won't do it - you have a case for selective enforcement of the policy. Conversely, if they won't define it, just say your attorney has indicated without a definition it is illegal for you to be forced to remove your picture. I will await a more detailed explanation for why it is inappropriate.

Posted by: Black JEM at September 10, 2024 11:51 AM (GZYu7)

288 Is Pelosi stepping away from Kamala so as to avoid the blame for a catastrophic election?

Is This the Sign Pelosi Doesn't Think Harris Can Win?

https://tinyurl.com/ycajvvh5

Posted by: Archimedes at September 10, 2024 11:51 AM (xCA6C)

289 Who in the hell uses a lobster as a humidor?
-- Bill Clinton
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Great! Now I'll never get that smell out of the fish!

Posted by: allah at September 10, 2024 11:52 AM (CEzQx)

290 Fourth Born and lower - eithe be a highwayman, or a politician.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 10, 2024 11:49 AM (GlxLj)

Or be sent to the colonies as a "remittance man".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 10, 2024 11:52 AM (g0oAz)

291 > Kamala Harris Is Secluded In A Hotel With A Trump Impersonator
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I find this, weird.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 10, 2024 11:52 AM (Q4IgG)

292 another Warren court decison pulled out of a ~~hat~~ rectal orifice.
Posted by: brak at September 10, 2024 11:50 AM

Suggested edit.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 10, 2024 11:52 AM (a3Q+t)

293 That's probably the best you can hope for.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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Public institutions have different rules. Basically, any public institution has to follow 'due process' which also means due to incorporation, state and local governments must follow the US Constitution and its 1st Amendment in addressing speech restrictions.

Political speech is actually accorded the highest protection of speech above all others. Doesn't mean they cannot restrict it but the restriction is guided by strict scrutiny analysis. Private employee rights is more a contractual issue unless the state leg decides otherwise (parking lot bills to permit employees to place firearms in their cars on company grounds for example).

Posted by: whig at September 10, 2024 11:52 AM (kW+z9)

294 >Kamala Harris Is Secluded In A Hotel With A Trump Impersonator
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doing what

Posted by: Don Black at September 10, 2024 11:53 AM (/7KEl)

295
Heh. *he said drily*
Posted by: Archimedes

Indeed, he did. After my parents and grandparents, he (and a couple of other teachers) is still someone whom I hold in high regard.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 10, 2024 11:53 AM (xG4kz)

296 They don't know a thing about Trump which is part of the reason they have such a hard time with him.

They may have bits and pieces and psych profiles about what makes him tick, but they do not understand him. Many on our own side don't either.

He is a rabble rouser and a leftist at heart which is not to imply that his political beliefs are leftist.

He understands how leftists operate and does it better than they do. It kills them. That's why they need a thousand people to plan and strategize against him and meanwhile he's just himself.

If Trump had decided to take his skills to the dark side, this country and world would be even further down the garden path of commie totalitarianism. If Republicans had supported him in the fight, then freedom would be ringing the world over. He is the most powerful one man force you will see in your life. I blame Republicans and always will for where we are. Nothing but cheap vicious bought scum.

Posted by: ... at September 10, 2024 11:53 AM (zlPHs)

297 I'm becoming more and more convinced that all this TdA shit is some kind of op.

It's too ridiculous, and the media are too all-over-it.

I'm not saying this stuff isn't happening. I'm saying "T", "d" and "A" are probably not the right three letters.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 10, 2024 11:53 AM (VoAdT)

298 So now the Space Edsel is back on Earth, has Boeing fired anyone?

The non-duplicatable thrust reduction issue that caused the computer to disable 5 of the eight aft thrusters was, Boeing thinks, due to a Teflon fuel feed valve expanding. Alas with the service module now burnt debris, there is no way to examine anything.

In an earlier unmanned test flight the RCS system seems to have experienced stuck valves. The trouble was fond to be corrosion in the valves which caused Boeing and Aerojet, maker of the thrusters, to accuse each other.

So where does Boeing go from here?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 10, 2024 11:54 AM (HkAx+)

299 Kamala Harris Is Secluded In A Hotel With A Trump Impersonator
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doing what
Posted by: Don Black

Whatever whores do.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 10, 2024 11:54 AM (IFeV+)

300 Is Pelosi stepping away from Kamala so as to avoid the blame for a catastrophic election?

------

Giving Kamala the cold shoulder as only a true reptile can.

Posted by: Just Lily at September 10, 2024 11:54 AM (PTggi)

301 @262

>>It's illegal to do that according to the Supreme Court.

It's inexplicable where you can have a federal EC apparatus but a state EC apparatus would be violative of the Constitution.

And that case does not really deal with the concept of an EC framework only how Alabama apportioned districts.

Under my framework, all counties would get 1 State EC vote for all statewide elections, whichever candidate gets the most State EC votes, wins.

This would not effect any house or state representative races.

And it's as Republican a form of governance as enumerated in the constitution itself.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 10, 2024 11:54 AM (XV/Pl)

302 Kamala Harris Is Secluded In A Hotel With A Trump Impersonator
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kinky

Posted by: IC - #FJB at September 10, 2024 11:54 AM (ZtyUu)

303 What you can do is what you're starting to do, which is demand a written policy that clarifies what is acceptable, and what is not, and that it be universally applied.

I was at a company in the '80s in a (heavily male) engineering group. Complaints were issued about some cheesecake postcards (bikini women) that several engineers had up in their cubes. It was pointed out that a woman had 20+ postcards of Speedo-clad men in her cube. Now, nobody really cared about that, but it was offered as a sauce gander/goose, and after (I found out from a friend in HR) internal HR wailing and gnashing, she was instructed to take it down.

That's probably the best you can hope for.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 10, 2024

***
If I can annoy them enough and waste enough of their time, it may be worth it. HR drone says that my interpretation of the picture, a courageous man standing tall under extreme stress, is my "perception." My reply then becomes: "Explain exactly to me why this other person's perception is more valid than mine."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 10, 2024 11:54 AM (J2vNu)

304 I don't know that Kamala wants to be president. She's never worked a day in her life and seems to prefer it that way.

If we've learned anything in the last month, it's that being President doesn't mean you actually have to show up and work.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 10, 2024 11:54 AM (/y8xj)

305 Eazy peezy. All states have counties. Build an EC model from that.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons
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Unconstitutional--see Gray v Saunders (GA governor used to be determined by county unit system instead of popular vote) that relies upon Baker v. Carr.

Posted by: whig at September 10, 2024 11:55 AM (kW+z9)

306 Kamala Harris Is Secluded In A Hotel With A Trump Impersonator
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I find this, weird.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 10, 2024 11:52 AM (Q4IgG)

Have you seen her husband?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 10, 2024 11:55 AM (IUd0M)

307 So where does Boeing go from here?
Posted by: Anna Puma

Hopefully the ash heap of history. Before they kill anyone else.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 10, 2024 11:55 AM (IFeV+)

308 I blame Republicans and always will for where we are. Nothing but cheap vicious bought scum.

Posted by: ... at September 10, 2024 11:53 AM (zlPHs)

Well-deserved.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 10, 2024 11:55 AM (AYCXd)

309 The Warren Court would have overturned the National EC, except that it is written directly into the constitution so they couldn’t. So we’d have to amend the national constitution - revise the 14th amendment - to allow the States to do this again.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 10, 2024 11:56 AM (GlxLj)

310 "Have you seen her husband?"

No. He's hiding in the closet, isn't he?

Posted by: Ribbed at September 10, 2024 11:56 AM (B0mGw)

311 >How much of a leg do I have to stand on, do you think?
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are you employed by a public or private enterprise?

Posted by: Don Black at September 10, 2024 11:56 AM (/7KEl)

312 So where does Boeing go from here?
Posted by: Anna Puma

Hopefully into a long, arduous struggle session, in which they examine the many, many incredibly stupid decisions they've made in the last couple of decades, and then defenestrate those responsible.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 10, 2024 11:56 AM (xCA6C)

313 I blame Republicans and always will for where we are. Nothing but cheap vicious bought scum.

Posted by: ... at September 10, 2024 11:53 AM (zlPHs)

We must protest this defamatory statement.

Posted by: Cheap Vicious Scum at September 10, 2024 11:57 AM (Aqu9a)

314 So I'm told I'm anemic. Apparently I'm a couple of quarts low, as it were.

I go to get a blood test done (as well as hand over...other...samples) and they fill six enormous vials.

I mean, if I'm anemic, isn't I important that I *not* lose so much blood all at once? You'd think a guy in my position would need every last drop he's got.

Posted by: Robert at September 10, 2024 11:57 AM (1Yy3c)

315 If I can annoy them enough and waste enough of their time, it may be worth it. HR drone says that my interpretation of the picture, a courageous man standing tall under extreme stress, is my "perception." My reply then becomes: "Explain exactly to me why this other person's perception is more valid than mine."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 10, 2024 11:54 AM (J2vNu)
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Great tactic. Ask questions and force HR to defend their position. Oh, and make sure everything is done via email. In my experience, people are really stupid about email and don't realize they're creating a digital record which can be used against them.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 10, 2024 11:57 AM (tT6L1)

316 If I can annoy them enough and waste enough of their time, it may be worth it. HR drone says that my interpretation of the picture, a courageous man standing tall under extreme stress, is my "perception." My reply then becomes: "Explain exactly to me why this other person's perception is more valid than mine."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 10, 2024 11:54 AM (J2vNu)

Remember, the bint that reported you to HR embraces the left's ideology of being a welcoming, tolerant and loving. All are welcome.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 10, 2024 11:58 AM (N39Ws)

317 You can have all the free speech you want as long as I like it.
- left

Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 10, 2024 11:58 AM (KWOv0)

318 How much of a leg do I have to stand on, do you think?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

*sob*
-- Heather Mills

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 10, 2024 11:59 AM (v6JzV)

319
I'm going to go out on an extremely strong limb here and postulate that Kamala's purported prosecutorial skill at oratory was entirely imaginary. I'm willing to bet that she herself took very few cases into court to be argued and instead delegated them to assistants. She was more of a "I'll cover getting plea deals -- and then delegate having the paperwork done to other assistants" prosecutor. Substandard literary and thinking on one's feet skill are her lot in life. She administered -- poorly - she did not "do", prosecution.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 10, 2024 11:59 AM (xG4kz)

320 >How much of a leg do I have to stand on, do you think?
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are you employed by a public or private enterprise?

Posted by: Don Black at September 10, 2024 11:56 AM (/7KEl)

Some states/jurisdictions have "political ideology" a protected class. CA/Seattle did, last I checked. I don't know how successful a rightie has been in challenging lefties under such laws, and I doubt your jurisdiction has similar, if I recall your location correctly.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 10, 2024 11:59 AM (AYCXd)

321 I honestly think Kamala will probably cry during the debate.

You know, PDJT devastates her on a topic or six and she decides to play the "He's a big meanie and is beating up on po' lill me!"

Posted by: Tonypete at September 10, 2024 11:59 AM (WXNFJ)

322 If I can annoy them enough and waste enough of their time, it may be worth it. HR drone says that my interpretation of the picture, a courageous man standing tall under extreme stress, is my "perception." My reply then becomes: "Explain exactly to me why this other person's perception is more valid than mine."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 10, 2024 11:54 AM (J2vNu)
==
Nope - don't go down the rabbit hole. Make them define inappropriate in writing or by directing you to written HR policy. Then force them to apply it uniformly. If they won't or can't, suggest again your attorney has advised you the request is illegally made.

Posted by: Black JEM at September 10, 2024 11:59 AM (GZYu7)

323 286 Here in Louisiana, they have at will employment. They can fire you for any reason at any time.
Posted by: Ribbed at September 10, 2024 11:48 AM (B0mGw)

Most southern and western states are like that, except the left coast.
Posted by: Tom Servo
======
What is true for private employment is not true for government employees. Government employees of state and local government get property rights analysis to firings due to US constitutional limits on governmental power. See the 5th and 14th amendment due process clauses which apply to public employees and their discipline.

Posted by: whig at September 10, 2024 11:59 AM (kW+z9)

324 If Heather Mills and Michelle Fields combined their DNA, would they get a baby called Mat?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 10, 2024 12:00 PM (VdhcA)

325 I bet if somebody put up Robert Mapplethorpe homo shit in their cube, HR would be totes cool with it.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 10, 2024 12:00 PM (v6JzV)

326
Old & Busted: Muh GAINZZZZ!
New Hotness: Muh FEELZZZZ!

Posted by: ShainS -- If Your Independence Lasts Over 4 Hours, You May Have Been Red-Pilled at September 10, 2024 12:00 PM (10Lv1)

327 Conversely, if they won't define it, just say your attorney has indicated without a definition it is illegal for you to be forced to remove your picture. I will await a more detailed explanation for why it is inappropriate.
Posted by: Black JEM at September 10, 2024

***
Sounds like good wording!

My plan was to put in my retirement papers the day after the election, Trump win or not. Who knows; I may have to accelerate that.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 10, 2024 12:00 PM (J2vNu)

328 DEI strikes again!

WATCH NOW: A live view of Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta Airport after a Delta plane clipped another aircraft on a taxiway, tearing the tail off the smaller plane.

https://tinyurl.com/y4m49jyr

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 10, 2024 12:00 PM (IFeV+)

329 If they won't or can't, suggest again your attorney has advised you the request is illegally made.

It's important to emphasize that last point. It tells them that you take this seriously and intend to fight.

OTOH, I'm retired, so it's easy for me to say that.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 10, 2024 12:01 PM (xCA6C)

330 328 DEI strikes again!

WATCH NOW: A live view of Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta Airport after a Delta plane clipped another aircraft on a taxiway, tearing the tail off the smaller plane.

https://tinyurl.com/y4m49jyr
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 10, 2024 12:00 PM (IFeV+)

Smooshing Tin

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 10, 2024 12:01 PM (VoAdT)

331 Since Biden never stroked out on stage, I don't hold out any hope that something fun will happen in this debate either.

Posted by: Just Lily at September 10, 2024 12:01 PM (PTggi)

332 Hopefully the ash heap of history. Before they kill anyone else.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 10, 2024 11:55 AM (IFeV+)
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I believe I've seen some stuff coming out from Boeing insiders telling everyone what's been obvious for a long time: Since the company was taken over by people who are only interested in share value and costt, and have no engineering background, what's been happening was pretty much inevitable.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 10, 2024 12:01 PM (tT6L1)

333 I mean, if I'm anemic, isn't I important that I *not* lose so much blood all at once? You'd think a guy in my position would need every last drop he's got.
Posted by: Robert at September 10, 2024 11:57 AM (1Yy3c)

You could always top it off with bourbon. Wouldn't want to freeze up when Winter hits.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 10, 2024 12:02 PM (g0oAz)

334 Frankly, I would like to know who is running the country.

We have a senile idiot who is supposedly in the role, but doesn't show up for work. We have a whore who secretly attends meetings, but who insists that she has nothing to do with the current administration.

And nobody seems to care that this country has no president.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 10, 2024 12:02 PM (lTGtQ)

335 Breaking: Kamala won the debate.
- msm

Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 10, 2024 12:02 PM (KWOv0)

336 So I'm told I'm anemic. Apparently I'm a couple of quarts low, as it were.

get your hormones checked. low testosterone can lead to low red blood cell count

Posted by: brak at September 10, 2024 12:02 PM (NGHTx)

337 The analogy was the gate--why does everyone say fence?

Posted by: Chesterton, mildly irritated at September 10, 2024 12:02 PM (JPaD7)

338 And nobody seems to care that this country has no president.

the nuclear football is currently propping up books on a shelf in the oval office

Posted by: brak at September 10, 2024 12:03 PM (NGHTx)

339 Shawn Farash @Shawn_Farash 1h
Harris FINALLY posted policy positions on her website and... Wouldn't you know...

She copied and pasted them DIRECTLY from Biden's website.

She does NOT represent "CHANGE", that much is now OBVIOUS, but this also proves that she has ZERO, not ONE original thought that she has ever come up with herself.

Does anyone want more of what the last 3.5 years has brought? The answer is no.

Kamala Harris is an incompetent, PAINFULLY unqualified candidate. Period, end of story.

TRUMP 2024

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 10, 2024 12:03 PM (CEzQx)

340 My plan was to put in my retirement papers the day after the election, Trump win or not. Who knows; I may have to accelerate that.

Well, in that case, you literally have nothing to lose. Stir that sh*tpot as hard as you can!

Disclaimer: easy for me to say.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 10, 2024 12:03 PM (/y8xj)

341 The analogy was the gate--why does everyone say fence?
Posted by: Chesterton, mildly irritated at September 10, 2024 12:02 PM (JPaD7)
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Your original idea wasn't quite there.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 10, 2024 12:03 PM (tT6L1)

342 tearing the tail off

Used to date her.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 10, 2024 12:03 PM (JfTEZ)

343 306 Kamala Harris Is Secluded In A Hotel With A Trump Impersonator

Hopefully not Alec Baldwin unless Secret Service checks him for guns.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 10, 2024 12:03 PM (+4yJ5)

344 she did not "do", prosecution.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 10, 2024 11:59 AM

You know what she did "do"?

Posted by: Willie B. at September 10, 2024 12:04 PM (a3Q+t)

345 The analogy was the gate--why does everyone say fence?
Posted by: Chesterton

That's pretty serious. Can we call it "Fencegate?"

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 10, 2024 12:04 PM (v6JzV)

346 Smooshing Tin
Posted by: Warai-otoko

Bing Dang Ow
Wii Tu Lo

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 10, 2024 12:04 PM (IFeV+)

347 The analogy was the gate--why does everyone say fence?
Posted by: Chesterton, mildly irritated at September 10, 2024 12:02 PM (JPaD7)

If there is no fence, then is a gate a gate? Might be a rose trellis.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 10, 2024 12:04 PM (g0oAz)

348 > So where does Boeing go from here?
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IIRC the current CEO is stepping down later in the year. Beyond that? They've likely killed any chances to make money on spaceflight, so the new 797 (a re-imagined 737) is supposed to start production soon.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 10, 2024 12:04 PM (Q4IgG)

349 Sounds like good wording!

My plan was to put in my retirement papers the day after the election, Trump win or not. Who knows; I may have to accelerate that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
======
Contact FIRE first. FIRE is the Foundation for Individual rights and expression. https://www.thefire.org/

If needed, FIRE can probably refer you to an attorney licensed in your jurisdiction if you wish.

Posted by: whig at September 10, 2024 12:04 PM (kW+z9)

350 @334

>>And nobody seems to care that this country has no president.

Ersatz Ben Franklin: A Politburo if you can freak it.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 10, 2024 12:04 PM (XV/Pl)

351 I'm wondering about that mayor and city council of Springfield, OH. Seems like they could have stopped the illegal flood if they had put up some resistance. Are they Dems?

Would they consider immigrants hunting down ducks and geese in public park one of the benefits of diversity or is it showing compassion for desperate refugees fleeing oppression? Just wait until the machete attacks start.

Posted by: Ripley at September 10, 2024 12:04 PM (GUOwU)

352 328 DEI strikes again!

WATCH NOW: A live view of Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta Airport after a Delta plane clipped another aircraft on a taxiway, tearing the tail off the smaller plane.

https://tinyurl.com/y4m49jyr
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 10, 2024 12:00 PM (IFeV+)

Rubbin' is racing! Intimidate the little SOB and get to the runway line first.

Posted by: Zombie Dale Earnhardt #3 at September 10, 2024 12:04 PM (Aqu9a)

353 Your IQ goes up when wearing clam diggers with knee socks. It just does.

Posted by: Pudinhead at September 10, 2024 12:05 PM (W3T6M)

354 How much of a leg do I have to stand on, do you think?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 10, 2024 11:27 AM (J2vNu)
________

Zero. Want some tough advice? Take the pic down and keep your political opinions to yourself. The vast majority of HR departments are crawling with leftwing drones and scumbags and bitter hateful cat lady cocksuckers. They get their jollies punishing their political enemies.

Unless you are extremely lucky to have an HR department that is fair, you are fucked. Even if they do side with you on this issue, you will be on their radar and they'll be looking for payback.

I understand this is probably unpopular advice. But it is the best advice.

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at September 10, 2024 12:05 PM (iFTx/)

355 doing what
Posted by: Don Black

Roll playing !

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 10, 2024 12:05 PM (NtVYv)

356 Trump has better taste than that
Posted by: It's me donna

Kamala, Hillary, Stormy Daniels. Kill, marry, fuck. Go!

Posted by: War games. The only winning move is not to play. at September 10, 2024 12:05 PM (JCZqz)

357 And nobody seems to care that this country has no president.

Hey, sports ball is on!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 10, 2024 12:05 PM (JfTEZ)

358 Pianist Screamin' Scott Simon of the band Sha Na Na has died of sinus cancer at the age of 75.

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 10, 2024 12:05 PM (CEzQx)

359 If they won't or can't, suggest again your attorney has advised you the request is illegally made.

It's important to emphasize that last point. It tells them that you take this seriously and intend to fight.

OTOH, I'm retired, so it's easy for me to say that.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 10, 2024 12:01 PM (xCA6C)
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LOL! I'm not!! And very much in the HR field, and most HR lackeys are just trying to not create anymore trouble and go home. I'm a stickler for consistent application of things like this, and most times I have been involved with friends and family who call for advice the HR folks they are dealing with fail to remember this. And it makes it very easy to beat them.

I despise poor HR practitioners with a passion - and most of them in the public sector suck to high heaven. Hell, a fair number of them suck in the private sector as well.

Posted by: Black JEM at September 10, 2024 12:05 PM (GZYu7)

360 get your hormones checked. low testosterone can lead to low red blood cell count
Posted by: brak at September 10, 2024 12:02 PM (NGHTx)

I gave them a lot. They're checking all sorts of shit. Literally.

Posted by: Robert at September 10, 2024 12:06 PM (1Yy3c)

361 If there is no fence, then is a gate a gate? Might be a rose trellis.

It might be. But you don't know, do you? Hah!

Posted by: Zombie Chesterton at September 10, 2024 12:06 PM (/y8xj)

362 Since the company was taken over by people who are only interested in share value and costt, and have no engineering background, what's been happening was pretty much inevitable.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 10, 2024 12:01 PM (tT6L1)

I've been formulating this argument that is isn't that they only care about profits, it's that they only care about incomes.

Profit is the measure of how successful your company is at doing what it does. Income is just the measure of how much money is coming in, by hook or by crook. Obsessing over incomes, like chasing a balance sheet in a tailspin by shoveling DEI/ESG/Whatever money on top of it as fast as you can, will actually make your profits go down, not up.

If an airplane company cares about profits, they'll care about airplanes. If a hospital cares about profits, they'll care about healing sick people.

It probably boils down to saying "the customer is always right", and it's when a company decides their "customers" are not the people who buy their product but the people who shovel money at them for other completely unrelated reasons that the company starts to fall apart.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 10, 2024 12:07 PM (VoAdT)

363 Roll playing !
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway

Rolls are for fat strippers.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 10, 2024 12:07 PM (v6JzV)

364 337 The analogy was the gate--why does everyone say fence?
Posted by: Chesterton
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The English Common law that permits people to walk across private fields and lands due to public footpath right of ways is not really duplicated here in the states.

Posted by: whig at September 10, 2024 12:07 PM (kW+z9)

365 Unless you are extremely lucky to have an HR department that is fair, you are fucked. Even if they do side with you on this issue, you will be on their radar and they'll be looking for payback.

I understand this is probably unpopular advice. But it is the best advice.

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at September 10, 2024 12:05 PM (iFTx/)
==
I expect they are populated as such. Which means most of them aren't very good at their job. They can be easily beaten if they are acting as arbitrarily as the situation as described appears to be. Then the retaliation gives you a very lucrative payday. As you get a better job that pays better.

Posted by: Black JEM at September 10, 2024 12:07 PM (GZYu7)

366 337 The analogy was the gate--why does everyone say fence?
Posted by: Chesterton, mildly irritated at September 10, 2024 12:02 PM (JPaD7)

LOL
True.
It was a closed gate--blocking a lane, I think.

Posted by: m at September 10, 2024 12:07 PM (64Zez)

367 World of Statistics @stats_feed 22h
🇺🇸 2024 Election Forecast:
Trump’s lead is 6%

Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 3h
Summer is over.
Voters are getting serious.

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 10, 2024 12:08 PM (CEzQx)

368 Contact FIRE first. FIRE is the Foundation for Individual rights and expression. https://www.thefire.org/

If needed, FIRE can probably refer you to an attorney licensed in your jurisdiction if you wish.

Posted by: whig at September 10, 2024 12:04 PM (kW+z9)
==
This is good advice.

Posted by: Black JEM at September 10, 2024 12:09 PM (GZYu7)

369 I gave them a lot. They're checking all sorts of shit. Literally.
Posted by: Robert at September 10, 2024 12:06 PM (1Yy3c)

Eat more beef !

On a serious note. Good Luck, I hope they find something that will help.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 10, 2024 12:09 PM (NtVYv)

370 Nood

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 10, 2024 12:09 PM (IUd0M)

371 /sock

Posted by: Oddbob at September 10, 2024 12:09 PM (/y8xj)

372 I despise poor HR practitioners with a passion - and most of them in the public sector suck to high heaven. Hell, a fair number of them suck in the private sector as well.

Posted by: Black JEM at September 10, 2024 12:05 PM (GZYu7)

In the 2001 Internet Bubble Bust, HR was the first to get fired, and they were subsequently the last to be rehired. Now, they insulated themselves a couple ladder rungs with a whole bunch of DEI administration dead weight. Genius, really.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 10, 2024 12:10 PM (AYCXd)

373 “There exists in such a case a certain institution or law; let us say, for the sake of simplicity, a fence or gate erected across a road. The more modern type of reformer goes gaily up to it and says, ‘I don’t see the use of this; let us clear it away.’ To which the more intelligent type of reformer will do well to answer: ‘If you don’t see the use of it, I certainly won’t let you clear it away. Go away and think. Then, when you can come back and tell me that you do see the use of it, I may allow you to destroy it.’”

Posted by: m at September 10, 2024 12:10 PM (64Zez)

374 316
‘ Remember, the bint that reported you to HR embraces ’

I would ask for the name of that person so you could ‘apologize’ for hurting their feelings.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 10, 2024 12:10 PM (jbnUc)

375 Headline: Trump up by 6!

Trump: My lead is slightly smaller than big. *spreads hands apart* *winks*

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 10, 2024 12:10 PM (Aqu9a)

376 fence or gate!

Posted by: m at September 10, 2024 12:11 PM (64Zez)

377 In the 2001 Internet Bubble Bust, HR was the first to get fired, and they were subsequently the last to be rehired. Now, they insulated themselves a couple ladder rungs with a whole bunch of DEI administration dead weight. Genius, really.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 10, 2024 12:10 PM (AYCXd)
==
I've applauded the dismantling of DEI within HR departments, and it appears to be accelerating.

Posted by: Black JEM at September 10, 2024 12:11 PM (GZYu7)

378 Pianist Screamin' Scott Simon of the band Sha Na Na has died of sinus cancer at the age of 75.
Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx

I was just reading about that group yesterday. Two of the founding members became doctors and one teaches religious studies at a Jewish school.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 10, 2024 12:11 PM (4XwPj)

379 Mario Nawfal @MarioNawfal 23h
ELON: DEMOCRATS WILL IMPORT VOTERS IF IT WINS THEM ELECTIONS

@micsolana “Why is anyone who moves here entitled, immediately, to welfare — of any kind?”

@elonmusk

“Incentives, as usual, explain behavior. If the Democratic party gains enough voters to win an election by importing them and giving them free stuff, then they will do so.”

“Only if existing voters are upset enough about this for the Democrats to lose, will it stop.”

Elon Musk @elonmusk 21h
This is the heart of the problem and explains why the Democratic Party won’t even deport illegal immigrant gang members who beat up police on camera, as happened in New York a few months ago.

That’s how badly they want those votes!

Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 10, 2024 12:12 PM (CEzQx)

380 Pianist Screamin' Scott Simon of the band Sha Na Na has died of sinus cancer at the age of 75.
Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx

I was just reading about that group yesterday. Two of the founding members became doctors and one teaches religious studies at a Jewish school.
Posted by: Madamemayhem

Bowser FTW!

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at September 10, 2024 12:17 PM (IFeV+)

381 348 IIRC the current CEO is stepping down later in the year. Beyond that? They've likely killed any chances to make money on spaceflight, so the new 797 (a re-imagined 737) is supposed to start production soon.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 10, 2024 12:04 PM (Q4IgG)

They can't even get the 777X out the door. I have a difficult time envisioning the 797 going into production prior to colander facemask time.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at September 10, 2024 12:17 PM (DTX3h)

382
Zero. Want some tough advice? Take the pic down and keep your political opinions to yourself. The vast majority of HR departments are crawling with leftwing drones and scumbags and bitter hateful cat lady cocksuckers. They get their jollies punishing their political enemies.

Unless you are extremely lucky to have an HR department that is fair, you are fucked. Even if they do side with you on this issue, you will be on their radar and they'll be looking for payback.

Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at September 10, 2024

***
You are probably right. But if we never put up any kind of a fight, we will never win even small victories.

I've written to FIRE, as whig suggested, but I don't expect to hear anything back.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 10, 2024 12:18 PM (J2vNu)

383 I really, really want Trump to win the "popular vote".

And not by a little.

2-3%.

That would amuse me greatly as every single progressive completely forgot their desire for the popular vote of presidents for a few years.

----

I want to see how those Blue states that tie their EVs to the "popular vote" react. That will be hilarious.

Posted by: Midnight Rambler at September 10, 2024 12:18 PM (ZlKnD)

384 Is that other person tenured faculty? If so, you got nothing.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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Not really. Public or private university is the biggest distinction. Private university, free speech is a contractual privilege which may or may not be granted among other privileges. Public, the first amendment applies and a complicated analysis takes place even for lowly staff employees as any discipline applied to the employee requires constitutional due process protections which means the 1A is at play.

In a public university, the key issue is content restrictions which must follow 1A analysis and also selective enforcement due is forbidden. Content restrictions must be neutral in application and can only affect protected speech (political is the foremost) if the government has a compelling interest--the restrictions are narrowly tailored to prevent affecting protected speech--and the state has the burden of proof that the reason to restrict is compelling and that the restriction cited is narrowly tailored. Viewpoint discrimination, regardless of rank is not kosher under that analysis.

Posted by: whig at September 10, 2024 12:20 PM (kW+z9)

385 I've written to FIRE, as whig suggested, but I don't expect to hear anything back.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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You can call them at 215-717-FIRE. M-F 9-5. They probably have already rated your university's speech codes, albeit perhaps oriented toward students.

There should also be an AAUP representative at your university that sometimes will take up staff issues. AAUP are also the usual union for faculty and staff in unionized states using CBA agreements rather than public law as a basis.

Posted by: whig at September 10, 2024 12:24 PM (kW+z9)

386
You’re comparing to the Salic Law (Continental) which split estates up. English inheritance law had some really terrible parts; estate to the first born, but ONLY if that was a man. If there was no male heir the estate could go to a male second cousin and the decedent’s immediate family would be tossed out with nothing.

Probably why much of the gay old aristocracy was happy to recognize their wife’s sons who’d been fathered by randy young stable boys - at least they could say they had an heir.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 10, 2024 11:35 AM (GlxLj)

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Nope; women were allowed to inherit in england even in medieval times so ...Where do you get this stuff from?The idea the aristocracy would just voluntarily leave their family estates because they had no male heir is absurd.

"Precedence went initially to a dead person’s issue descendants, in preference to collaterals such as siblings or aunts. Within the same generation of descendants, men were favoured over women, but only the eldest male inherited. If there were no male issue, then any daughters inherited together as co-heiresses. "

As for gayness: Americans gave the world the AIDS epidemic ,not aristocrats.

Posted by: giap at September 10, 2024 12:27 PM (FeozE)

387 Wolfus,

If you go the legal rote I'll tell you "You get what you pay for"

You don't stand a chance if you get some lawyer who will take it without a serious amount of "investment" on your part.

There is no justice in the legal system, only money and people who want to get paid.

Posted by: pawn at September 10, 2024 01:42 PM (QB+5g)

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