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The Morning Rant: Minimalist Edition
If the US Navy cannot even lift a blockade by Yemen, one of the poorest countries in the world, the idea of lifting a blockade around Taiwan is a complete fantasy. If the US cannot compete with the arms production of Iran, then the notion of somehow out-competing China should be put to bed immediately. But this is also why the Red Sea defeat will be met with silence. More than any other conflict raging today, it highlights the crisis within the West’s military organisation, as well as the fact that there is no real way to fix it. To admit our powerlessness is to admit that the era of Western hegemony is already over. Faced with little alternative, we will continue to let the Houthis blow up our ships — and then pretend that none of it really matters.
The author is a bit histrionic, and no doubt his pessimism is driven in part by being a sophisticated Scandinavian, with a reflexive hatred of America. And obviously Taiwan would be a different situation. But the facts speak for themselves. We are losing control of one of the main trade routes because of Iran, and all of our vaunted high tech weaponry and overwhelming force has done nothing. There are many issues contributing to our navy's inability to fight and win against a tiny opponent. The first is the ridiculous idea of proportionality. The answer to the Houthis should be the total destruction of their fighting ability, not the carefully titrated destruction of a goatherd's hut with a couple of AKs buried in the sand. The second is more serious...there is no political will to combat Iranian intransigence. In fact, a good portion of our current government is supportive of an ascendant Iran, hoping that it can act as a counterbalance to those difficult Jews in Israel. Until we have an administration that takes seriously the threat to world commerce and the colonialist expansionism of Iran, the Houthis...and Hezbollah...and Hamas will continue to have success.
[Crossposted at CutJibNewsletter]
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Posted by: BruceWayne at September 03, 2024 11:00 AM (CIS44)
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1st?
Posted by: Bulg at September 03, 2024 11:00 AM (v6JzV)
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Dammit, Wayne.
Posted by: Bulg at September 03, 2024 11:01 AM (v6JzV)
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Where is the Navy?...at the YMCA?
Posted by: BignJames at September 03, 2024 11:01 AM (AwYPR)
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I apologize for the OT but I just got to speak to JT and he sounds really good. He appreciates all of thinking of him
Posted by: Ben Had at September 03, 2024 11:02 AM (WbH4L)
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Where is the Navy?...at the YMCA?
Posted by: BignJames at September 03, 2024 11:01 AM (AwYPR)
You forgot to call them using the Ernest T Bass method:
"Houthis Whooo! Houthis Whooo!"
Posted by: BignJames at September 03, 2024 11:01 AM (AwYPR)
You forgot to call them using the Ernest T Bass method:
"Houthis Whooo! Houthis Whooo!"
Posted by: Boswell at September 03, 2024 11:02 AM (K+UlC)
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 03, 2024 11:03 AM (CIS44)
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The Bab Al Mandab could be cleared of houthi vessels in about two days if the west wanted to. It isn't that it can't be done, but that there is no will to do so.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 03, 2024 11:03 AM (UeOfa)
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Didn't we hire the Saudis to do our Yemeni killin' for us?
Posted by: Oglebay at September 03, 2024 11:03 AM (7fVdQ)
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We have funded and supplied the Saudi armed forces for many years, yet they are incapable of defeating Iran's proxies just over their southern border.
With the supplied weaponry, how much was this for the Saudi royals to use their vast wealth to play around with cool "toys" as opposed to being used for actual defense?
With the supplied weaponry, how much was this for the Saudi royals to use their vast wealth to play around with cool "toys" as opposed to being used for actual defense?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 03, 2024 11:03 AM (N39Ws)
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I bet if the Houthis were sponsored by "Not Iran" then we'd be more interested.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 03, 2024 11:04 AM (IUd0M)
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Don't worry! Our military has always been unprepared for wars! And we still were able to turn it around and win! (80 years ago).
Just like the Romans! And just like the Romans, we'll ALWAYS be able to win!
Just like the Romans! And just like the Romans, we'll ALWAYS be able to win!
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 03, 2024 11:04 AM (N1DT3)
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Posted by: Ben Had at September 03, 2024 11:02 AM
Thank you for the update and thank you for caring. OK, that sounds sappy but I mean it sincerely. {{ Ben Had }}
Thank you for the update and thank you for caring. OK, that sounds sappy but I mean it sincerely. {{ Ben Had }}
Posted by: Oddbob at September 03, 2024 11:05 AM (/y8xj)
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Our 230 year old navy, one of whose primary missions is maintaining freedom of the seas, has been proven to be incapable of defeating a bunch of fanatics in small boats, and their Iranian masters' missiles.
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It's capable. The USN could smash Yemen to pieces. For all the problems with the Navy recently, this is a mission it could complete with relative ease.
We're choosing not to. It could be because there's fear that crushing Yemen would cause regional instability. It could be because Iran is operating in Yemen with US support, even if the Yemen proxy is misbehaving. It could be a bunch of things.
But the failure in the Red Sea is likely a failure of choice, not of capability.
And it also marks the end of American global hegemony. American defense of the high seas silently underpins every treaty, agreement and assumption since 1945. The failure will not go unnoticed.
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It's capable. The USN could smash Yemen to pieces. For all the problems with the Navy recently, this is a mission it could complete with relative ease.
We're choosing not to. It could be because there's fear that crushing Yemen would cause regional instability. It could be because Iran is operating in Yemen with US support, even if the Yemen proxy is misbehaving. It could be a bunch of things.
But the failure in the Red Sea is likely a failure of choice, not of capability.
And it also marks the end of American global hegemony. American defense of the high seas silently underpins every treaty, agreement and assumption since 1945. The failure will not go unnoticed.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 03, 2024 11:05 AM (HnUIn)
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We cannot properly deal with the Houthis until we find out what their pronouns are.
Posted by: Bulg at September 03, 2024 11:05 AM (v6JzV)
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5 I apologize for the OT but I just got to speak to JT and he sounds really good. He appreciates all of thinking of him
Posted by: Ben Had at September 03, 2024 11:02 AM (WbH4L)
Never apologize for good news
Posted by: Ben Had at September 03, 2024 11:02 AM (WbH4L)
Never apologize for good news
Posted by: JOE at September 03, 2024 11:06 AM (IyPmt)
Posted by: Oddbob at September 03, 2024 11:06 AM (/y8xj)
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Apparently the weapons we provide the Saudis to kill the Yemenis only target women and children.
Posted by: Oglebay at September 03, 2024 11:06 AM (7fVdQ)
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5 I apologize for the OT but I just got to speak to JT and he sounds really good. He appreciates all of thinking of him
Posted by: Ben Had at September 03, 2024 11:02 AM (WbH4L)
That is a wonderful OT!!! Thank the Lord he is okay!!!
Posted by: Ben Had at September 03, 2024 11:02 AM (WbH4L)
That is a wonderful OT!!! Thank the Lord he is okay!!!
Posted by: Moki at September 03, 2024 11:06 AM (wLjpr)
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The Red Sea Sharks was a fun Tintin book.
De Havilland Mosquitos, armored cars, Rastapopoulos, good stuff.
De Havilland Mosquitos, armored cars, Rastapopoulos, good stuff.
Posted by: spindrift at September 03, 2024 11:07 AM (OguvZ)
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12 Don't worry! Our military has always been unprepared for wars! And we still were able to turn it around and win! (80 years ago).
Just like the Romans! And just like the Romans, we'll ALWAYS be able to win!
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 03, 2024 11:04 AM (N1DT3)
An obese draftee is the obest draftee!
Just like the Romans! And just like the Romans, we'll ALWAYS be able to win!
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 03, 2024 11:04 AM (N1DT3)
An obese draftee is the obest draftee!
Posted by: Generation Zero, Reporting for Treason at September 03, 2024 11:07 AM (qUkBO)
Posted by: Michelle Fields at September 03, 2024 11:07 AM (GqnhC)
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And it also marks the end of American global hegemony. American defense of the high seas silently underpins every treaty, agreement and assumption since 1945. The failure will not go unnoticed.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 03, 2024 11:05 AM (HnUIn)
On the plus side, if the US military stops subsidizing international trade, it becomes a LOT more costly to offshore manufacturing.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 03, 2024 11:05 AM (HnUIn)
On the plus side, if the US military stops subsidizing international trade, it becomes a LOT more costly to offshore manufacturing.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 03, 2024 11:08 AM (N1DT3)
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Damn Jews can't be trusted to use them wisely.
Britain’s New Left-Wing Government Suspends Some Arms Export Licenses to Israel
Britain’s New Left-Wing Government Suspends Some Arms Export Licenses to Israel
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at September 03, 2024 11:09 AM (L/fGl)
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I apologize for the OT but I just got to speak to JT and he sounds really good. He appreciates all of thinking of him
Posted by: Ben Had at September 03, 2024 11:02 AM (WbH4L)
Good to hear! Thank you for sharing!
Posted by: Ben Had at September 03, 2024 11:02 AM (WbH4L)
Good to hear! Thank you for sharing!
Posted by: Doof at September 03, 2024 11:10 AM (RhGG0)
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 03, 2024 11:10 AM (eRfHZ)
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20 The Red Sea Sharks was a fun Tintin book.
De Havilland Mosquitos, armored cars, Rastapopoulos, good stuff.
Posted by: spindrift at September 03, 2024 11:07 AM (OguvZ)
"The Red Sea sharks in Treason's Harbor? Not so fun."
- Mr Hairabedian
De Havilland Mosquitos, armored cars, Rastapopoulos, good stuff.
Posted by: spindrift at September 03, 2024 11:07 AM (OguvZ)
"The Red Sea sharks in Treason's Harbor? Not so fun."
- Mr Hairabedian
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at September 03, 2024 11:10 AM (LxER7)
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And it also marks the end of American global hegemony. American defense of the high seas silently underpins every treaty, agreement and assumption since 1945. The failure will not go unnoticed.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
All true, and there is nobody to pick up the slack. This is a big part of why globalism is going to disappear. Bring your supplies closer to home, which is cheaper than patrolling the globe. We are now spending the majority of our tax dollars on transfer payments instead.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
All true, and there is nobody to pick up the slack. This is a big part of why globalism is going to disappear. Bring your supplies closer to home, which is cheaper than patrolling the globe. We are now spending the majority of our tax dollars on transfer payments instead.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 03, 2024 11:10 AM (UeOfa)
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Britain’s New Left-Wing Government Suspends Some Arms Export Licenses to Israel
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at September 03, 2024 11:09 AM (L/fGl)
Really?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at September 03, 2024 11:09 AM (L/fGl)
Really?
Posted by: Michelle Fields at September 03, 2024 11:10 AM (GqnhC)
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24 Damn Jews can't be trusted to use them wisely.
Britain’s New Left-Wing Government Suspends Some Arms Export Licenses to Israel
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at September 03, 2024 11:09 AM (L/fGl)
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If that vaunted Mossad intel started leaking out that Labour was full of pedos...
It'd do nothing to their popularity, huh?
Britain’s New Left-Wing Government Suspends Some Arms Export Licenses to Israel
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at September 03, 2024 11:09 AM (L/fGl)
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If that vaunted Mossad intel started leaking out that Labour was full of pedos...
It'd do nothing to their popularity, huh?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reminiscing about lost times with Orson Welles at September 03, 2024 11:10 AM (GBKbO)
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The second is more serious...there is no political will to combat Iranian intransigence. In fact, a good portion of our current government is supportive of an ascendant Iran, hoping that it can act as a counterbalance to those difficult Jews in Israel.
This is the real problem. Could we annihilate the Houthis if we so chose? Absolutely. It's a failure of will, not a failure of the military.
This is the real problem. Could we annihilate the Houthis if we so chose? Absolutely. It's a failure of will, not a failure of the military.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:10 AM (xCA6C)
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But I'm sure someone will be along shortly to blame Ukraine.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:11 AM (xCA6C)
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>The Houthis now rule the Red Sea: America has silently admitted defeat
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I think it's more 'won't fight' than 'can't fight'
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I think it's more 'won't fight' than 'can't fight'
Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2024 11:11 AM (/7KEl)
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Something rotten in the state of Denmark.
Posted by: Ribbed at September 03, 2024 11:11 AM (Ectld)
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Again, we've been getting our asses kicked by barbarians and savages for the last 80 years.
The US is a paper tiger.
The US is a paper tiger.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 03, 2024 11:11 AM (XV/Pl)
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We'll, in fairness, they do call it the "Red" Sea.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at September 03, 2024 11:11 AM (L/fGl)
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The U.S. is close to an agreement to give Ukraine long-range cruise missiles that could reach deep into Russia, but Kyiv would need to wait several months as the U.S. works through technical issues ahead of any shipment, U.S. officials said.The inclusion of Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missiles (JASSM) in a weapons package is expected to be announced this autumn, three sources said, though a final decision has not been made.
Posted by: SMOD at September 03, 2024 11:11 AM (RHGPo)
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I'm standing right here!
Posted by: CHY-na at September 03, 2024 11:12 AM (Ectld)
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I think it's more 'won't fight' than 'can't fight'
Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2024 11:11 AM (/7KEl)
American politicians have not yet figured out how to monetize the effort.
Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2024 11:11 AM (/7KEl)
American politicians have not yet figured out how to monetize the effort.
Posted by: Michelle Fields at September 03, 2024 11:12 AM (GqnhC)
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why have all these weapons at our disposal if we are too reluctant to use them
Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2024 11:12 AM (/7KEl)
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The Navy even in its current state is capable of obliterating the Houthis. But our junta supports their junta so no action will occur unless PDT wins.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 03, 2024 11:12 AM (3cXfB)
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On the plus side, if the US military stops subsidizing international trade, it becomes a LOT more costly to offshore manufacturing.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 03, 2024 11:08 AM (N1DT3)
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Regardless of preferences held by the masters of the universe, we're likely looking at the end of globalization. We will unlikely see a return to nationalism as such in terms of trade and production, but regionalism seems pretty likely. The global "anything, from anywhere, anytime" paradigm is starting to fail. Too expensive, too unstable, too unreliable.
"Most things, from our region, most of the time" is likely to replace it - not just for us, but for everyone. We'll still be the top dog in this hemisphere.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 03, 2024 11:08 AM (N1DT3)
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Regardless of preferences held by the masters of the universe, we're likely looking at the end of globalization. We will unlikely see a return to nationalism as such in terms of trade and production, but regionalism seems pretty likely. The global "anything, from anywhere, anytime" paradigm is starting to fail. Too expensive, too unstable, too unreliable.
"Most things, from our region, most of the time" is likely to replace it - not just for us, but for everyone. We'll still be the top dog in this hemisphere.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 03, 2024 11:13 AM (HnUIn)
Posted by: SMOD at September 03, 2024 11:13 AM (RHGPo)
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***But the facts speak for themselves. We are losing control of one of the main trade routes because of Iran, and all of our vaunted high tech weaponry and overwhelming force has done nothing.***
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We are losing control of the Red Sea region because of our ROE.
Call up the Marine general, give him the command to take Yemen and offer whatever support he requests. Yemen will be neutralized quickly and inexpensively.
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We are losing control of the Red Sea region because of our ROE.
Call up the Marine general, give him the command to take Yemen and offer whatever support he requests. Yemen will be neutralized quickly and inexpensively.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 03, 2024 11:13 AM (ah1Jo)
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Expect no "shores of Tripoli" type action from Kammie and Timpon, that's for sure.
Expect no "shores of Tripoli" type action from Kammie and Timpon, that's for sure.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 03, 2024 11:13 AM (xG4kz)
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"Again, we've been getting our asses kicked by barbarians and savages for the last 80 years. The US is a paper tiger."
Serious question: What would be the political fallout if we just leveled a couple middle eastern terrorist hot spots from a domestic standpoint?
Serious question: What would be the political fallout if we just leveled a couple middle eastern terrorist hot spots from a domestic standpoint?
Posted by: Ribbed at September 03, 2024 11:13 AM (Ectld)
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I think it's more 'won't fight' than 'can't fight'
Don't blame Kamala. She hasn't heard about the Houthis because she's wearing earbuds.
Don't blame Kamala. She hasn't heard about the Houthis because she's wearing earbuds.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:13 AM (xCA6C)
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Even if Trump wants to have a powerful navy the admirals won't let it happen. This is the work of Obama purging the field grade officers in 2009-2016. Now it has come to fruition.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at September 03, 2024 11:13 AM (17s+e)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at September 03, 2024 11:14 AM (L/fGl)
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We could end it in 10 minutes if we so chose. We could sort out Iran if we so chose. Whoever is in charge chooses not to.
We could end it in 10 minutes if we so chose. We could sort out Iran if we so chose. Whoever is in charge chooses not to.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2024 11:14 AM (FLlbx)
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Climate Change Spreads Brain Disease’
Yes it does.. Worshippers at the altar of climate change are indeed brain damaged
Yes it does.. Worshippers at the altar of climate change are indeed brain damaged
Posted by: It's me donna at September 03, 2024 11:15 AM (IyPmt)
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Don't blame Kamala. She hasn't heard about the Houthis because she's wearing earbuds.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:13 AM (xCA6C)
Disinformation! I was listenin' to Houthi and the Blowfish when I was tokin' up wif Tupac in college, yo!
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:13 AM (xCA6C)
Disinformation! I was listenin' to Houthi and the Blowfish when I was tokin' up wif Tupac in college, yo!
Posted by: Kamala Harris at September 03, 2024 11:15 AM (PiwSw)
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 03, 2024 11:15 AM (Eohux)
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Serious question: What would be the political fallout if we just leveled a couple middle eastern terrorist hot spots from a domestic standpoint?
More ivy league protest marches. The horror. The horror.
More ivy league protest marches. The horror. The horror.
Posted by: Oddbob at September 03, 2024 11:15 AM (/y8xj)
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Serious question: What would be the political fallout if we just leveled a couple middle eastern terrorist hot spots from a domestic standpoint?
Posted by: Ribbed at September 03, 2024 11:13 AM
How exactly would Dearborn Michigan be.....taken care of....?
Posted by: Ribbed at September 03, 2024 11:13 AM
How exactly would Dearborn Michigan be.....taken care of....?
Posted by: Stateless at September 03, 2024 11:15 AM (jvJvP)
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>>>Where is the United States Navy?
They found out you can be gay without getting under weigh.
From Wiki:
Underway, or under way, is a nautical term describing the state of a vessel which is unconstrained from horizontal translational movement relative to the water and the ground.
Wow, that definition sounds almost Elon-esque.
They found out you can be gay without getting under weigh.
From Wiki:
Underway, or under way, is a nautical term describing the state of a vessel which is unconstrained from horizontal translational movement relative to the water and the ground.
Wow, that definition sounds almost Elon-esque.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:16 AM (xCA6C)
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"Serious question: What would be the political fallout if we just leveled a couple middle eastern terrorist hot spots from a domestic standpoint?"
Unfortunately, the United States Government believes all the terrorist hot spots are in the United States.
Unfortunately, the United States Government believes all the terrorist hot spots are in the United States.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at September 03, 2024 11:17 AM (qUkBO)
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Somehow it has become US policy that we are too powerful and too well armed, and it isn't fair to the other countries, so we will only let the dogs out on rare occasions, and even then, just in the yard
Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2024 11:17 AM (/7KEl)
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Unfortunately, the United States Government believes all the terrorist hot spots are in the United States.
Well, there are a LOT of school board meetings.
Well, there are a LOT of school board meetings.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:17 AM (xCA6C)
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But I'm sure someone will be along shortly to blame Ukraine.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:11 AM (xCA6C)
Just gonna point out that no one blames Ukraine. We blame the government of Ukraine, installed by the US IC, along with the governments of US/UK and sometimes additional NATO nations.
Those of us who "blame" Ukraine are just opposed to getting involved in absolutely every single fucking issue on the planet - and frequently starting issues so that we can get involved, sending our money and youths, all so some jackasses can advance the forces of globohomo.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:11 AM (xCA6C)
Just gonna point out that no one blames Ukraine. We blame the government of Ukraine, installed by the US IC, along with the governments of US/UK and sometimes additional NATO nations.
Those of us who "blame" Ukraine are just opposed to getting involved in absolutely every single fucking issue on the planet - and frequently starting issues so that we can get involved, sending our money and youths, all so some jackasses can advance the forces of globohomo.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 03, 2024 11:18 AM (IUd0M)
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5 I apologize for the OT but I just got to speak to JT and he sounds really good. He appreciates all of thinking of him
Posted by: Ben Had at September 03, 2024 11:02 AM (WbH4L)
What wonderful news! We miss you, JT!
Posted by: Ben Had at September 03, 2024 11:02 AM (WbH4L)
What wonderful news! We miss you, JT!
Posted by: m at September 03, 2024 11:18 AM (64Zez)
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@46
>>Serious question: What would be the political fallout if we just leveled a couple middle eastern terrorist hot spots from a domestic standpoint?
Oh, from a domestic standpoint, we would see large scale rioting in every major and minor city, and the usual suspects would use it to grab even more power.
Globally, the usual suspects would holler and whine, but I think once the dust settled, it would be business as usual.
The first country I would glass would be Quatar.
>>Serious question: What would be the political fallout if we just leveled a couple middle eastern terrorist hot spots from a domestic standpoint?
Oh, from a domestic standpoint, we would see large scale rioting in every major and minor city, and the usual suspects would use it to grab even more power.
Globally, the usual suspects would holler and whine, but I think once the dust settled, it would be business as usual.
The first country I would glass would be Quatar.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 03, 2024 11:18 AM (XV/Pl)
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>"Serious question: What would be the political fallout if we just leveled a couple middle eastern terrorist hot spots from a domestic standpoint?"
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depends
which party has the White House in this scenario?
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depends
which party has the White House in this scenario?
Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2024 11:18 AM (/7KEl)
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Is there a possibility of trying diplomacy instead of toppling regimes by funding coups and bombing out countries incessantly?
Posted by: Preposterous, I know at September 03, 2024 11:19 AM (sfjSS)
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When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.—That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,—That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
--I would argue in regards to Islam and progressive terrorists, we are here.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.—That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,—That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
--I would argue in regards to Islam and progressive terrorists, we are here.
Posted by: Ribbed at September 03, 2024 11:19 AM (B0mGw)
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Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
This is a long slide from the 1980.
Control via sat coms from the Inner Circle to ship commanders takes away local initiative. We used to trust our COs, back them up, and were rewarded with victory over pirates, slavey, Americans, Spanish, Germans, Germans and Japanese.
This is a long slide from the 1980.
Control via sat coms from the Inner Circle to ship commanders takes away local initiative. We used to trust our COs, back them up, and were rewarded with victory over pirates, slavey, Americans, Spanish, Germans, Germans and Japanese.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 03, 2024 11:19 AM (u82oZ)
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11 ‘I bet if the Houthis were sponsored by "Not Iran" then we'd be more interested.’
This is the correct reason. We could step on them like roaches the minute we stop caring what Iran thinks about it.
This is the correct reason. We could step on them like roaches the minute we stop caring what Iran thinks about it.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 03, 2024 11:19 AM (jbnUc)
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Somehow it has become US policy that we are too powerful and too well armed, and it isn't fair to the other countries, so we will only let the dogs out on rare occasions, and even then, just in the yard
Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2024 11:17 AM (/7KEl)
Rare is fine, so long as it is objectively in the national interest, we prosecute the campaign as quickly and effectively as possible to victory, and bring back our men (yes, it should only be men) back home when the war-fighting is done.
Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2024 11:17 AM (/7KEl)
Rare is fine, so long as it is objectively in the national interest, we prosecute the campaign as quickly and effectively as possible to victory, and bring back our men (yes, it should only be men) back home when the war-fighting is done.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 03, 2024 11:19 AM (GqnhC)
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>I apologize for the OT but I just got to speak to JT and he sounds really good. He appreciates all of thinking of him
Posted by: Ben Had
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did he mention the birdbath?
Posted by: Ben Had
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did he mention the birdbath?
Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2024 11:19 AM (/7KEl)
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All of this speculation is transitory. We will have an election in November and at that time EVERYTHING will change. It may be for the better, it may be for the worse but it will be radically different.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 03, 2024 11:19 AM (ah1Jo)
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The Trump 'Doctrine' included unlimited hydrocarbon development in the US which fundamentally altered and neutered Russia and Iran dropping the price of their only commodity - oil.
Ask yourself why Dubya or Barry Soetoro never did this...
Globalism and market supply control.
Ask yourself why Dubya or Barry Soetoro never did this...
Globalism and market supply control.
Posted by: Danimal28 at September 03, 2024 11:20 AM (klw0w)
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But I'm sure someone will be along shortly to blame Ukraine.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:11 AM (xCA6C)
Oh give it a rest, already.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:11 AM (xCA6C)
Oh give it a rest, already.
Posted by: Bulg at September 03, 2024 11:20 AM (v6JzV)
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44
We are losing control of the Red Sea region because of our ROE.
Call up the Marine general, give him the command to take Yemen and offer whatever support he requests. Yemen will be neutralized quickly and inexpensively.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 03, 2024 11:13 AM (ah1Jo)
Our leaders have effectively lost the concept of how to win. When a situation devolved to where military might is needed, the time for being nice is over. Or should be. When the decision to employ the militayr is made, they need to be let loose. Report back when the mission is complete. And always keep in mind the fight isn't over until the enemy says it is.
We are losing control of the Red Sea region because of our ROE.
Call up the Marine general, give him the command to take Yemen and offer whatever support he requests. Yemen will be neutralized quickly and inexpensively.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 03, 2024 11:13 AM (ah1Jo)
Our leaders have effectively lost the concept of how to win. When a situation devolved to where military might is needed, the time for being nice is over. Or should be. When the decision to employ the militayr is made, they need to be let loose. Report back when the mission is complete. And always keep in mind the fight isn't over until the enemy says it is.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 03, 2024 11:20 AM (N39Ws)
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Rare is fine, so long as it is objectively in the national interest, we prosecute the campaign as quickly and effectively as possible to victory, and bring back our men (yes, it should only be men) back home when the war-fighting is done.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 03, 2024 11:19 AM (GqnhC)
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They way I saw it put in the Before Times was along the lines of, "a conservative wants a large military that stays home most of the time and only fights for total victory. A liberal wants a small military that's everywhere all at once and fights for negotiated outcomes."
It hasn't been true for a long time, but it did sort of describe the two opposed perspectives on superpower military positioning.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 03, 2024 11:19 AM (GqnhC)
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They way I saw it put in the Before Times was along the lines of, "a conservative wants a large military that stays home most of the time and only fights for total victory. A liberal wants a small military that's everywhere all at once and fights for negotiated outcomes."
It hasn't been true for a long time, but it did sort of describe the two opposed perspectives on superpower military positioning.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 03, 2024 11:21 AM (HnUIn)
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I saw a YouTube video on China's Drone Forces ... lots of various sizes and speeds, some stealth. ... drones with a lot of capability. And the drone swarms could be an issue.
Small drones could be made and used against the small ship pirates ... seems to me like an answer for large ships as well, rather than waiting till they are climbing on board.
Not sure our DeepState wants Iran to win, or to counter-balance Israel, as it is that DeepState wants USA to lose.
They are surrendering on all fronts, including non-military. I have heard Trump say "we have so much great (military) tech, it's amazing what we have" (paraphrased). I sure hope so ... but it seems like we are not keeping up. But many nations put out a lot of propaganda about their incredible weapons ... hopefully someone at Foggy bottom or the Pentagon is keeping up?
Small drones could be made and used against the small ship pirates ... seems to me like an answer for large ships as well, rather than waiting till they are climbing on board.
Not sure our DeepState wants Iran to win, or to counter-balance Israel, as it is that DeepState wants USA to lose.
They are surrendering on all fronts, including non-military. I have heard Trump say "we have so much great (military) tech, it's amazing what we have" (paraphrased). I sure hope so ... but it seems like we are not keeping up. But many nations put out a lot of propaganda about their incredible weapons ... hopefully someone at Foggy bottom or the Pentagon is keeping up?
Posted by: illiniwek at September 03, 2024 11:21 AM (Cus5s)
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69 >I apologize for the OT but I just got to speak to JT and he sounds really good. He appreciates all of thinking of him
Posted by: Ben Had
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Good. Looking forward to his return.
Posted by: Ben Had
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Good. Looking forward to his return.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 03, 2024 11:21 AM (ah1Jo)
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I apologize for the OT but I just got to speak to JT and he sounds really good. He appreciates all of thinking of him
Posted by: Ben Had
Ben Had -
This is awesome news!! Thank you for all your efforts in reaching out to JT and keeping us up to date.
Posted by: Ben Had
Ben Had -
This is awesome news!! Thank you for all your efforts in reaching out to JT and keeping us up to date.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 03, 2024 11:21 AM (N39Ws)
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"Not sure our DeepState wants Iran to win, or to counter-balance Israel, as it is that DeepState wants USA to lose."
Obama made a speech as president where they globalists were envisioning regional international hegemons. Iran was his choice for the middle east.
Obama made a speech as president where they globalists were envisioning regional international hegemons. Iran was his choice for the middle east.
Posted by: Ribbed at September 03, 2024 11:22 AM (Ectld)
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When George Marshall became Army Chief of Staff in 1939, he began to prepare for the US to enter the conflict.
He gave orders to one officer to take up an important post immediately. The officer said his wife was away and he couldn't get the house packed up. Marshall blurted, "My God, man. This is vital." The officer replied, "I'm sorry, I can't do it right now." To which Marshall said, "I'm sorry too, but you will be placed on the retired list tomorrow."
When George Marshall became Army Chief of Staff in 1939, he began to prepare for the US to enter the conflict.
He gave orders to one officer to take up an important post immediately. The officer said his wife was away and he couldn't get the house packed up. Marshall blurted, "My God, man. This is vital." The officer replied, "I'm sorry, I can't do it right now." To which Marshall said, "I'm sorry too, but you will be placed on the retired list tomorrow."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2024 11:22 AM (FLlbx)
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Our Country, thanks to all of you for caring about him.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 03, 2024 11:23 AM (WbH4L)
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Small drones could be made and used against the small ship pirates ... seems to me like an answer for large ships as well, rather than waiting till they are climbing on board.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 03, 2024 11:21 AM (Cus5s)
One word.
Directed energy weapons.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 03, 2024 11:21 AM (Cus5s)
One word.
Directed energy weapons.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 03, 2024 11:24 AM (GqnhC)
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I predict the following statement by Kamala will get a LOT of airplay in Trump ads, as it should:
"He (Musk) has lost his privileges and it should be taken down".
"They are directly speaking to millions and millions of people without any level of oversight or regulation, and that has to stop."
Even Jake Tapper looked stunned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaNWW2yFWFY
"He (Musk) has lost his privileges and it should be taken down".
"They are directly speaking to millions and millions of people without any level of oversight or regulation, and that has to stop."
Even Jake Tapper looked stunned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaNWW2yFWFY
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:24 AM (xCA6C)
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minding their pronouns, clearly,
Posted by: no 6 at September 03, 2024 11:24 AM (PXvVL)
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What’s this??? No Pax Americana?? Where’s Caesar?? Where’s his Legions??
Posted by: tubal at September 03, 2024 11:25 AM (PCK5/)
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I think the main reason the Houthi pirates are succeeding is because of a lack of will on the part of our current leaders to do anything. I truly believe once/if Trump is in charge again, the Houthis will be totally wiped out if necessary to open those sea lanes…. Yes we probably have some issues with our navy but even with those issues it’s more than adequate to open those lanes if the political will existed. It doesn’t right now
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 03, 2024 11:25 AM (+kWhq)
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Our leaders have effectively lost the concept of how to win.
Not so. Our leaders have come to the realization that winning means the end of (that) conflict. That means less push for MIC spending. That means less money from the MIC. Our leaders have no interest in winning because winning does not benefit them.
Not so. Our leaders have come to the realization that winning means the end of (that) conflict. That means less push for MIC spending. That means less money from the MIC. Our leaders have no interest in winning because winning does not benefit them.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 03, 2024 11:25 AM (IUd0M)
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CBD
I have rarely read of a sea service so flawed in strategic execution as today's USN.
The short campaign off of Yemen took 2.5 years of production of our premier Standard missiles. This makes us weaker, as China observed. Also, we can not load vertical launch systems at sea. Need to go to port. This is a 30 year old, known, deficiency.
W picked the wrong targets. As you say, huts and truck parks. The Israelis destroyed the ports, critical crane installations, and fuel. Note, no other attacks on Israel since then.
For maximum pain, stop the ability to offload food, and destroy the water infrastructure. They are in a desert. But we do not do that.
I have rarely read of a sea service so flawed in strategic execution as today's USN.
The short campaign off of Yemen took 2.5 years of production of our premier Standard missiles. This makes us weaker, as China observed. Also, we can not load vertical launch systems at sea. Need to go to port. This is a 30 year old, known, deficiency.
W picked the wrong targets. As you say, huts and truck parks. The Israelis destroyed the ports, critical crane installations, and fuel. Note, no other attacks on Israel since then.
For maximum pain, stop the ability to offload food, and destroy the water infrastructure. They are in a desert. But we do not do that.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 03, 2024 11:25 AM (u82oZ)
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But I'm sure someone will be along shortly to blame Ukraine.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:11 AM (xCA6C)
Oh give it a rest, already.
That's ironic.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:11 AM (xCA6C)
Oh give it a rest, already.
That's ironic.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:25 AM (xCA6C)
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It hasn't been true for a long time, but it did sort of describe the two opposed perspectives on superpower military positioning.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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Jacksonians versus Neo Cons on the Right. The Dems see the military as social workers and police for the world.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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Jacksonians versus Neo Cons on the Right. The Dems see the military as social workers and police for the world.
Posted by: whig at September 03, 2024 11:26 AM (kW+z9)
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Well sure the navy can’t defeat dudes in dingies. But everyone’s pronoun is used correctly. And really, that’s what matters.
Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 03, 2024 11:26 AM (8jog5)
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Why would we be interested in stopping Iran when our government is supporting them? Traitors one and all.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at September 03, 2024 11:26 AM (Aoykm)
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Again, we've been getting our asses kicked by barbarians and savages for the last 80 years.
The US is a paper tiger.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 03, 2024 11:11 AM (XV/Pl)
DC politicians are letting are asses get whipped. They're slaves to the UN..
Think about it. Ever since we've become a member of a that den of tyrants, we have won zero (0) wars.
The US is a paper tiger.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 03, 2024 11:11 AM (XV/Pl)
DC politicians are letting are asses get whipped. They're slaves to the UN..
Think about it. Ever since we've become a member of a that den of tyrants, we have won zero (0) wars.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 03, 2024 11:27 AM (g8Ew8)
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Good morning!
Posted by: gp At The Internet Desert Oasis at September 03, 2024 11:27 AM (NLkgW)
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 03, 2024 11:27 AM (Eohux)
Posted by: Ribbed at September 03, 2024 11:27 AM (B0mGw)
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yes back in the 80s, seems like ancient history, you had punitive expedition like libya, grenada, there were proxy fights in southeast asia, and the middle east, but we didn't commit, largely because we thought Western Europe was the big play,
Posted by: no 6 at September 03, 2024 11:27 AM (PXvVL)
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They are in a desert. But we do not do that.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
Actually, Yemen is pretty well-watered and lush compared to the rest of the Arabian Peninsula. It's why the Romans called it "Arabia Felix," "Happy Arabia."
Posted by: NaCly Dog
Actually, Yemen is pretty well-watered and lush compared to the rest of the Arabian Peninsula. It's why the Romans called it "Arabia Felix," "Happy Arabia."
Posted by: Bulg at September 03, 2024 11:28 AM (v6JzV)
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W picked the wrong targets. As you say, huts and truck parks. The Israelis destroyed the ports, critical crane installations, and fuel. Note, no other attacks on Israel since then.
For maximum pain, stop the ability to offload food, and destroy the water infrastructure. They are in a desert. But we do not do that.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
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A military is best used to kill and break things. Not as some sort of graduated response that you can turn up or down like a dial.
For maximum pain, stop the ability to offload food, and destroy the water infrastructure. They are in a desert. But we do not do that.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
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A military is best used to kill and break things. Not as some sort of graduated response that you can turn up or down like a dial.
Posted by: whig at September 03, 2024 11:28 AM (kW+z9)
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>Our leaders have effectively lost the concept of how to win.
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they have lost the WILL to win
think of this
IMO we have been half-stepping it since the day after Nagasaki went glass
WE became embarrassed at having so much power, and have not waged all out WW2 style combat since Okinawa
I don't mean to diminish our war-fighting in Vietnam, but that war became political and subject to political, not practical military considerations, and thus was doomed to end badly
again- IMO FWIW YMMV
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they have lost the WILL to win
think of this
IMO we have been half-stepping it since the day after Nagasaki went glass
WE became embarrassed at having so much power, and have not waged all out WW2 style combat since Okinawa
I don't mean to diminish our war-fighting in Vietnam, but that war became political and subject to political, not practical military considerations, and thus was doomed to end badly
again- IMO FWIW YMMV
Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2024 11:28 AM (/7KEl)
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The Democrats are now accusing X of censoring Kamala. They'll always let you know what they themselves have done.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:29 AM (xCA6C)
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Dr Pork Chops & Bacons
Why the UN is so afraid of a Trump victory. I for one support a move of UN headquarters to Zimbabwe or Venezuela. Even knowing we lose a lot of intel.
Why the UN is so afraid of a Trump victory. I for one support a move of UN headquarters to Zimbabwe or Venezuela. Even knowing we lose a lot of intel.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 03, 2024 11:29 AM (u82oZ)
Posted by: olddog in mo at September 03, 2024 11:29 AM (ViCCR)
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I see swarms of dragon fly sized drones. - think locust plague in Egypt - .
Posted by: Braenyard at September 03, 2024 11:29 AM (ah1Jo)
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This situation is like the border. If we wanted to, we could shout down the border in 5 minutes and prevent anyone from coming in. But there is no political will to do that. Can’t blame the border patrol for this, just like we can’t blame the Navy for the Yemen situation. It’s the fault of the deep state that runs things and wants both and open border and a Houthi blockade.
Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 03, 2024 11:29 AM (8jog5)
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For maximum pain, stop the ability to offload food, and destroy the water infrastructure. They are in a desert. But we do not do that.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 03, 2024 11:25 AM (u82oZ)
Of course!
B-52s dropping dumb bombs will do an excellent and cost-effective job. Plunk a helicopter carrier off their ports and sink everything that is armed.
That will get their attention, and it won't cost us multi-million dollar missiles.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 03, 2024 11:25 AM (u82oZ)
Of course!
B-52s dropping dumb bombs will do an excellent and cost-effective job. Plunk a helicopter carrier off their ports and sink everything that is armed.
That will get their attention, and it won't cost us multi-million dollar missiles.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 03, 2024 11:30 AM (d9fT1)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at September 03, 2024 11:31 AM (L/fGl)
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85 I think the main reason the Houthi pirates are succeeding is because of a lack of will on the part of our current leaders to do anything. I truly believe once/if Trump is in charge again, the Houthis will be totally wiped out if necessary to open those sea lanes…. Yes we probably have some issues with our navy but even with those issues it’s more than adequate to open those lanes if the political will existed. It doesn’t right now
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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Houthis should be treated as pirates and dispatched promptly just like Somalis.
It is a reflection of the preferences of our foreign policy types to 'manage' conflict resulting in endless conflict instead.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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Houthis should be treated as pirates and dispatched promptly just like Somalis.
It is a reflection of the preferences of our foreign policy types to 'manage' conflict resulting in endless conflict instead.
Posted by: whig at September 03, 2024 11:31 AM (kW+z9)
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I've been listening to a lot of Mike Benz, Jeff Sachs, and others, and when you start thinking that everything is about making sure the spice continues to flow, everything seems to make sense.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at September 03, 2024 11:31 AM (bNf8H)
Posted by: Lockheed at September 03, 2024 11:31 AM (B0mGw)
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Biden has his legacy of failure to protect for posterity, you know.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 03, 2024 11:31 AM (pohLc)
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>>"He (Musk) has lost his privileges and it should be taken down".
"They are directly speaking to millions and millions of people without any level of oversight or regulation, and that has to stop."
EM must now know that he must assist with everything he has so that Trump, MAGA, etc wins in November or bad, very bad things are about to happen to him and his organizations...I am sure these quotes have crystallized that in his mind.
"They are directly speaking to millions and millions of people without any level of oversight or regulation, and that has to stop."
EM must now know that he must assist with everything he has so that Trump, MAGA, etc wins in November or bad, very bad things are about to happen to him and his organizations...I am sure these quotes have crystallized that in his mind.
Posted by: Boswell at September 03, 2024 11:32 AM (K+UlC)
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Wasn't the "legitimate" government of Yemen Communist?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 03, 2024 11:32 AM (Ux/Nh)
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I thought I read somewhere that “ winning” was defined as destroying the “ enemies” abilty to wage war. ( I have put in apostrophes the two concepts that no longer apply in American military thinking)..
Posted by: tubal at September 03, 2024 11:32 AM (PCK5/)
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Bulg. New nic!
A more watered desert is still in need of water. I stand that the critical infrastructure in the water system. Power, less so. The Yemeni people are not self-sufficient. They have many vulnerabilities, with the right will to win.
A more watered desert is still in need of water. I stand that the critical infrastructure in the water system. Power, less so. The Yemeni people are not self-sufficient. They have many vulnerabilities, with the right will to win.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 03, 2024 11:32 AM (u82oZ)
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It will be a catastrophe if we lose Yemen. Where will we obtain the all-important frankincense and myrrh supplies?
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:32 AM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2024 11:32 AM (FLlbx)
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Thx CBD. As long as we have pie in the sky , theoreticians like Blinken, Sullivan, Gordon and as long as the strings are being pulled by Barky, Rice and the WED this shit will continue. If Harris is elected the Navy will be decreased by 25%, with the rest of the services also reduced
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 03, 2024 11:32 AM (1G9mh)
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Good Rant!
Pandora's Box; suspect this is part of the problem and it will grow, not diminish anytime soon:
What percentage of Iran population is youth?
Statista, Jul. 4, 2024: This statistic shows the age structure of Iran inhabitants from 2012 to 2022. In 2022, about 23.57 percent of inhabitants were aged 0 to 14 years, while approximately 68.81 percent were aged 15 to 64, and 7.62 percent of Iran inhabitants were aged 65 or older.
That and I'd check the gifts received, by whom/for whom and our dignitaries, particularly under some administrations. G*d love 'em.
Just saying (and I despise the term).
Pandora's Box; suspect this is part of the problem and it will grow, not diminish anytime soon:
What percentage of Iran population is youth?
Statista, Jul. 4, 2024: This statistic shows the age structure of Iran inhabitants from 2012 to 2022. In 2022, about 23.57 percent of inhabitants were aged 0 to 14 years, while approximately 68.81 percent were aged 15 to 64, and 7.62 percent of Iran inhabitants were aged 65 or older.
That and I'd check the gifts received, by whom/for whom and our dignitaries, particularly under some administrations. G*d love 'em.
Just saying (and I despise the term).
Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at September 03, 2024 11:33 AM (NFX2v)
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Oh it’s a privilege to speak your mind?
Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 03, 2024 11:33 AM (8jog5)
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60 Those of us who "blame" Ukraine are just opposed to getting involved in absolutely every single fucking issue on the planet - and frequently starting issues so that we can get involved, sending our money and youths, all so some jackasses can advance the forces of globohomo.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 03, 2024 11:18 AM (IUd0M)
All of that whilst traitors in the government actively facilitate the invasion of our own country.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 03, 2024 11:18 AM (IUd0M)
All of that whilst traitors in the government actively facilitate the invasion of our own country.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at September 03, 2024 11:34 AM (DTX3h)
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Letters of marque and reprisal!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2024 11:32 AM (FLlbx)
Your local privateer is forming up now. No flouncers need apply. And no Irish.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2024 11:32 AM (FLlbx)
Your local privateer is forming up now. No flouncers need apply. And no Irish.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 03, 2024 11:34 AM (GqnhC)
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Commenting present
Posted by: Skip at September 03, 2024 11:34 AM (JmL8H)
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>>>Why the UN is so afraid of a Trump victory. I for one support a move of UN headquarters to Zimbabwe or Venezuela. Even knowing we lose a lot of intel.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
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Too many cohorts. Place it in the middle of the Chihuahua desert.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
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Too many cohorts. Place it in the middle of the Chihuahua desert.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 03, 2024 11:34 AM (ah1Jo)
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I've mentioned this several times; when Trump was president he made sure the Coast Guard office responsible for maritime security was funded and had a staff capable of dealing with the sort of situation in the Red Sea. These were people with logistical and security mindsets.
*biden shuttered that office on day one of his administration.
*biden shuttered that office on day one of his administration.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 03, 2024 11:35 AM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: one hour sober at September 03, 2024 11:35 AM (Y1sOo)
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:35 AM (xCA6C)
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Houthis should be treated as pirates and dispatched promptly just like Somalis.
Posted by: whig at September 03, 2024 11
Awhile back, I did research on modern day piracy. It was surprising to see so much happening in a modern age.
But that was when things were 'saner.'
Posted by: whig at September 03, 2024 11
Awhile back, I did research on modern day piracy. It was surprising to see so much happening in a modern age.
But that was when things were 'saner.'
Posted by: Stateless at September 03, 2024 11:35 AM (jvJvP)
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EM must now know that he must assist with everything he has so that Trump, MAGA, etc wins in November or bad, very bad things are about to happen to him and his organizations...
I don't know about that.
Elon is very useful to Deep State.
He is producing many things and making cool and trendy most of their desires. Brain chips, mobile internet satellites to run drone armies with, cars that can be disabled remotely, internet sites that track and catalog all the thoughts of citizens throughout the world.
Why, if I didn't know any better....
I don't know about that.
Elon is very useful to Deep State.
He is producing many things and making cool and trendy most of their desires. Brain chips, mobile internet satellites to run drone armies with, cars that can be disabled remotely, internet sites that track and catalog all the thoughts of citizens throughout the world.
Why, if I didn't know any better....
Posted by: Malcolm Tent at September 03, 2024 11:35 AM (sfjSS)
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Operation Muzzle Musk is underway…
Posted by: tubal at September 03, 2024 11:36 AM (PCK5/)
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126 Oh it’s a privilege to speak your mind?
You didn't know that?
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:35 AM (xCA6C)
I’m so old I remember when dissent was the greatest form of patriotism.
You didn't know that?
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:35 AM (xCA6C)
I’m so old I remember when dissent was the greatest form of patriotism.
Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 03, 2024 11:36 AM (8jog5)
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"He is producing many things and making cool and trendy most of their desires. Brain chips, mobile internet satellites to run drone armies with, cars that can be disabled remotely, internet sites that track and catalog all the thoughts of citizens throughout the world."
Yeah, noticed that, did you?
Yeah, noticed that, did you?
Posted by: Lockheed at September 03, 2024 11:37 AM (B0mGw)
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"One word. Directed energy weapons."
Ukraine makes suicide drones for about $1000. Seems a cargo ship should have several of those on board, ready for when the pirate boats are swarming.
Ukraine makes suicide drones for about $1000. Seems a cargo ship should have several of those on board, ready for when the pirate boats are swarming.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 03, 2024 11:37 AM (Cus5s)
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Malcolm Tent
Musk is trying to thread the needle. But never underestimate the power of communism to silence innovation that they can not control. Musk gets that.
Musk is trying to thread the needle. But never underestimate the power of communism to silence innovation that they can not control. Musk gets that.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 03, 2024 11:38 AM (u82oZ)
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Musk's Starlink is terrifying to look. Combine that with Gates World Citizen IDs and you get a system to track every human on the planet.
Posted by: Ribbed at September 03, 2024 11:38 AM (B0mGw)
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Awhile back, I did research on modern day piracy. It was surprising to see so much happening in a modern age.
But that was when things were 'saner.'
Posted by: Stateless at September 03, 2024
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I thought high-seas piracy, the classic kind, became untenable after the Age of Sail ended. Powered ships require fueling (coal or oil) and provisioning at ports, and the law can grab a pirate ship at such a port. Is it that more governments are simply ignoring piracy?
Awhile back, I did research on modern day piracy. It was surprising to see so much happening in a modern age.
But that was when things were 'saner.'
Posted by: Stateless at September 03, 2024
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I thought high-seas piracy, the classic kind, became untenable after the Age of Sail ended. Powered ships require fueling (coal or oil) and provisioning at ports, and the law can grab a pirate ship at such a port. Is it that more governments are simply ignoring piracy?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 03, 2024 11:38 AM (J2vNu)
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WRT to Elon, Trump, and their ability to speak freely, I've long maintained that we need clarity on what exactly these sites are. Are they publishers or platforms? Both come with problems for the site (liability vs required neutrality), but you can't be one when it suits your politics, and another when it doesn't. That's the game Zuck is playing now. The Dems are running the "X is mean to us" play because it suits them now. They weren't concerned about it in 2020.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:38 AM (xCA6C)
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EM must now know that he must assist with everything he has so that Trump, MAGA, etc wins in November or bad, very bad things are about to happen to him and his organizations...I am sure these quotes have crystallized that in his mind.
Posted by: Boswell
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Here it is, scroll through it all.
https://nitter.privacydev.net/elonmusk
Elon Musk@elonmusk
A Trump victory is essential to defense of freedom of speech, secure borders, safe cities and sensible spending!
Posted by: Boswell
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Here it is, scroll through it all.
https://nitter.privacydev.net/elonmusk
Elon Musk@elonmusk
A Trump victory is essential to defense of freedom of speech, secure borders, safe cities and sensible spending!
Posted by: Braenyard at September 03, 2024 11:39 AM (ah1Jo)
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at September 03, 2024 11:39 AM (VxLIS)
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"He has lost his privileges."
Posted by: m at September 03, 2024 11:39 AM (64Zez)
140
Imagine all the data AI is gathering from the Ukraine conflict droning.
Surely it isn't learning how to track and kill human beings that have been designated for destruction....
Surely it isn't learning how to track and kill human beings that have been designated for destruction....
Posted by: Malcolm Tent at September 03, 2024 11:39 AM (sfjSS)
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>>>Oh it’s a privilege to speak your mind?
It's an empty protest, while the platform routinely suspends accounts for jokes and opinion, with no effective and fair appeal process, and limits freedom of reach, and while it allows calls for genocide of yt pipo to stand as not violative of the platform's policy against violent speech.
Speaking as one who is currently on suspension for stating that traitors deserve the gallows.
It's an empty protest, while the platform routinely suspends accounts for jokes and opinion, with no effective and fair appeal process, and limits freedom of reach, and while it allows calls for genocide of yt pipo to stand as not violative of the platform's policy against violent speech.
Speaking as one who is currently on suspension for stating that traitors deserve the gallows.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 03, 2024 11:40 AM (GqnhC)
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I predict the following statement by Kamala will get a LOT of airplay in Trump ads, as it should:
"He (Musk) has lost his privileges and it should be taken down".
"They are directly speaking to millions and millions of people without any level of oversight or regulation, and that has to stop." ...
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:24 AM (xCA6C)
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Speech is a privilege, not a right.
"He (Musk) has lost his privileges and it should be taken down".
"They are directly speaking to millions and millions of people without any level of oversight or regulation, and that has to stop." ...
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:24 AM (xCA6C)
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Speech is a privilege, not a right.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 03, 2024 11:40 AM (HnUIn)
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Where is the United States Navy?
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"Lt. Cmdr. Quinton McHale, please pick up the white privilege courtesy phone ..."
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"Lt. Cmdr. Quinton McHale, please pick up the white privilege courtesy phone ..."
Posted by: ShainS -- If Your Independence Lasts Over 4 Hours, You May Have Been Red-Pilled at September 03, 2024 11:40 AM (WlJra)
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The upside is instability like this should put internal pressure on us to seek more internal solutions. World instability is like a hidden tariff on foreign goods.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at September 03, 2024 11:40 AM (VxLIS)
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WRT to Elon, Trump, and their ability to speak freely, I've long maintained that we need clarity on what exactly these sites are. Are they publishers or platforms? Both come with problems for the site (liability vs required neutrality), but you can't be one when it suits your politics, and another when it doesn't. That's the game Zuck is playing now. The Dems are running the "X is mean to us" play because it suits them now. They weren't concerned about it in 2020.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:38 AM (xCA6C)
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They all wear both hats at is suits them.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:38 AM (xCA6C)
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They all wear both hats at is suits them.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 03, 2024 11:40 AM (HnUIn)
146
Apparently Christmas has been moved to October 1 in Venezuela.
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at September 03, 2024 11:41 AM (FfSAJ)
147
Why, if I didn't know any better....
Posted by: Malcolm Tent
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Things are and always will be. It's how they are used.
Posted by: Malcolm Tent
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Things are and always will be. It's how they are used.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 03, 2024 11:41 AM (ah1Jo)
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"One word. Directed energy weapons."
Ukraine makes suicide drones for about $1000. Seems a cargo ship should have several of those on board, ready for when the pirate boats are swarming.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 03, 2024 11:37 AM (Cus5s)
Yeah, but directed energy weapons.
Ukraine makes suicide drones for about $1000. Seems a cargo ship should have several of those on board, ready for when the pirate boats are swarming.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 03, 2024 11:37 AM (Cus5s)
Yeah, but directed energy weapons.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 03, 2024 11:42 AM (GqnhC)
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We aren't winning because the administration doesn't want to. Period.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 03, 2024 11:42 AM (7BV1v)
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I thought high-seas piracy, the classic kind, became untenable after the Age of Sail ended. Powered ships require fueling (coal or oil) and provisioning at ports, and the law can grab a pirate ship at such a port. Is it that more governments are simply ignoring piracy?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
They are more like privateers now, with the participation of certain governments, or in the case of Somalia, no effective government.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
They are more like privateers now, with the participation of certain governments, or in the case of Somalia, no effective government.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 03, 2024 11:42 AM (E/l+r)
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So now we have the Bill of Privileges in our Constitution???
Posted by: tubal at September 03, 2024 11:42 AM (PCK5/)
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105
‘ Plunk a helicopter carrier off their ports and sink everything that is armed. ’
We’ll probably have to sink them to be sure whether or not they’re armed.
‘ Plunk a helicopter carrier off their ports and sink everything that is armed. ’
We’ll probably have to sink them to be sure whether or not they’re armed.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 03, 2024 11:43 AM (jbnUc)
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Ben Had, I am praying for JT. I miss his "Hiya!"s
I comment now and then and engage now and then, but he always greeted me.
He really got my attention one day during lockdown, when he told me he hoped one day he's hear me tell a happy story.
Made me think that maybe all I ever do here is vent, and that maybe he was right if so.
The last few years have been rough, and I maintained throughout lockdown refusing despair, because I came to believe that was the object of the exercise, so I angrily refused to knuckle under. I came to believe despair is the deadlist of the deadly sins, because if you do abandon all hope, what the hell difference do the other sins make?
That day he said that to me, I told him something I'd seen in the neighborhood, and how beautiful I thought it was, and he gave me a big attagirl for finding something happy.
I still resist despair, and I hold on to my rage at what has been done to us all, but I also hold on to him reminding me that there are beautiful and happy things. If we choose to note them.
I pray he finds beauty and happiness and hope, never despair.
And I send him a big happy Hiya! from my heart.
I comment now and then and engage now and then, but he always greeted me.
He really got my attention one day during lockdown, when he told me he hoped one day he's hear me tell a happy story.
Made me think that maybe all I ever do here is vent, and that maybe he was right if so.
The last few years have been rough, and I maintained throughout lockdown refusing despair, because I came to believe that was the object of the exercise, so I angrily refused to knuckle under. I came to believe despair is the deadlist of the deadly sins, because if you do abandon all hope, what the hell difference do the other sins make?
That day he said that to me, I told him something I'd seen in the neighborhood, and how beautiful I thought it was, and he gave me a big attagirl for finding something happy.
I still resist despair, and I hold on to my rage at what has been done to us all, but I also hold on to him reminding me that there are beautiful and happy things. If we choose to note them.
I pray he finds beauty and happiness and hope, never despair.
And I send him a big happy Hiya! from my heart.
Posted by: barbarausa at September 03, 2024 11:44 AM (enw9G)
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The Democrats want a European interpretation of rights. In the US Constitution, the rights you have cannot be abridged. In Europe, your rights are a gift of the government, which makes it clear it can take them away when it wants.
The Democrats want a European interpretation of rights. In the US Constitution, the rights you have cannot be abridged. In Europe, your rights are a gift of the government, which makes it clear it can take them away when it wants.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2024 11:44 AM (FLlbx)
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You've got to hand it to RFKj, even if you don't like his politics, he's got integrity.
https://tinyurl.com/yrz5fhxa
https://tinyurl.com/yrz5fhxa
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:44 AM (xCA6C)
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BREAKING--FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE--NEW POLLING RESULTS!11!!--
Our latest, most comprehensive polling to date clearly demonstrates a commanding lead for our very own slay-queen goddess emperor kamala (pbuh)...
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Our latest, most comprehensive polling to date clearly demonstrates a commanding lead for our very own slay-queen goddess emperor kamala (pbuh)...
Poll question: Is our very own slay-queen goddess emperor kamala (pbuh) the best of the best of the best?
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Posted by: SEriOus poLlinG grOuP InC! at September 03, 2024 11:44 AM (EFZgU)
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America has silently admitted defeat
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* Obama's "red line" and Biden's Afghanistan surrender have entered the post *
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* Obama's "red line" and Biden's Afghanistan surrender have entered the post *
Posted by: ShainS -- If Your Independence Lasts Over 4 Hours, You May Have Been Red-Pilled at September 03, 2024 11:44 AM (WlJra)
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132 "One word. Directed energy weapons."
Ukraine makes suicide drones for about $1000. Seems a cargo ship should have several of those on board, ready for when the pirate boats are swarming.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 03, 2024 11:37 AM (Cus5s)
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The economics of warfare tells me the USA is toast.
Ukraine makes suicide drones for about $1000. Seems a cargo ship should have several of those on board, ready for when the pirate boats are swarming.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 03, 2024 11:37 AM (Cus5s)
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The economics of warfare tells me the USA is toast.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 03, 2024 11:44 AM (1vkxO)
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They all wear both hats at is suits them.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 03, 2024 11:40 AM (HnUIn)
Dude is smart. However, he is the richest man or thereabouts, because he knows how to game the U.S. government's subsidy system. Now imagine how losing such would sway his position in turning against the public.
Even idealists have their limits. I don't trust him.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 03, 2024 11:40 AM (HnUIn)
Dude is smart. However, he is the richest man or thereabouts, because he knows how to game the U.S. government's subsidy system. Now imagine how losing such would sway his position in turning against the public.
Even idealists have their limits. I don't trust him.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 03, 2024 11:45 AM (GqnhC)
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In some of the videos taken by crew members on commercial vessels attacked by Houthi pirates you can see just how poor some of the paid security is.
These are not soldiers of fortune. They're border line mall security guards with AR-15's. Shooting at boats a half mile away. And missing.
These are not soldiers of fortune. They're border line mall security guards with AR-15's. Shooting at boats a half mile away. And missing.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 03, 2024 11:45 AM (Q4IgG)
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The FBI has arrested the former deputy chief of staff of New York Governor Kathy Hochul and her husband following a raid at their home.
Linda Sun, 40, and her husband Chris Hu, 41, were taking into custody on Tuesday in Manhasset, Long Island, as reported by The New York Times.
… this being New York, nobody knows what they were arrested for
Linda Sun, 40, and her husband Chris Hu, 41, were taking into custody on Tuesday in Manhasset, Long Island, as reported by The New York Times.
… this being New York, nobody knows what they were arrested for
Posted by: SMOD at September 03, 2024 11:46 AM (RHGPo)
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I thought high-seas piracy, the classic kind, became untenable after the Age of Sail ended. Powered ships require fueling (coal or oil) and provisioning at ports, and the law can grab a pirate ship at such a port. Is it that more governments are simply ignoring piracy?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 03, 2024 11:38 AM (J2vNu)
It was when the Somalis were attacking boats and there was a lack of will to do anything.
Apparently piracy is still a modern issue. Companies exist to fight the pirates. Gear exists. I imagine it would be 'smash and grab' type of attacks. Like you point out, tough to take care of an entire ship...
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 03, 2024 11:38 AM (J2vNu)
It was when the Somalis were attacking boats and there was a lack of will to do anything.
Apparently piracy is still a modern issue. Companies exist to fight the pirates. Gear exists. I imagine it would be 'smash and grab' type of attacks. Like you point out, tough to take care of an entire ship...
Posted by: Stateless at September 03, 2024 11:46 AM (jvJvP)
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Statista, Jul. 4, 2024: This statistic shows the age structure of Iran inhabitants from 2012 to 2022. In 2022, about 23.57 percent of inhabitants were aged 0 to 14 years, while approximately 68.81 percent were aged 15 to 64, and 7.62 percent of Iran inhabitants were aged 65 or older.
That and I'd check the gifts received, by whom/for whom and our dignitaries, particularly under some administrations. G*d love 'em.
Just saying (and I despise the term).
Posted by: L
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That demographic is deceptive--roughly 1/3 to 1/2 of Iran's populations are not Persians. Kurds and Azeris (Turkish origins) compose at least 1/3, Arabs a percent or two, and other people ethnically related to Persians but linguistically distinct, compose the rest of minorities.
From the last data I have seen, the minority populations are growing faster than the Persian population which is urbanized and like most urban populations have declining fertility (about 1.2-1.3) and an aging population (median age of a little over thirty now).
Same issue is happening in Turkey with the Kurds.
That and I'd check the gifts received, by whom/for whom and our dignitaries, particularly under some administrations. G*d love 'em.
Just saying (and I despise the term).
Posted by: L
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That demographic is deceptive--roughly 1/3 to 1/2 of Iran's populations are not Persians. Kurds and Azeris (Turkish origins) compose at least 1/3, Arabs a percent or two, and other people ethnically related to Persians but linguistically distinct, compose the rest of minorities.
From the last data I have seen, the minority populations are growing faster than the Persian population which is urbanized and like most urban populations have declining fertility (about 1.2-1.3) and an aging population (median age of a little over thirty now).
Same issue is happening in Turkey with the Kurds.
Posted by: whig at September 03, 2024 11:46 AM (kW+z9)
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>I apologize for the OT but I just got to speak to JT and he sounds really good. He appreciates all of thinking of him
Posted by: Ben Had
Didja tell him "Hiya" from all of us?
Posted by: Ben Had
Didja tell him "Hiya" from all of us?
Posted by: GoofusMaximus at September 03, 2024 11:46 AM (jZxMN)
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The existence of pirates has always depended on a lack of government will. “Pirates of the Caribbean “ happened because England not only tolerated it, but encouraged it to give the Spaniards grief. When a government wants to get rid of it, it’s easy to do. Simply eliminate any city they use as a base - that’s what we’re scared to do.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 03, 2024 11:46 AM (fIpti)
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Linda Sun, 40, and her husband Chris Hu, 41, were taking into custody on Tuesday in Manhasset, Long Island, as reported by The New York Times.
… this being New York, nobody knows what they were arrested for
Posted by: SMOD at September 03, 2024 11:46 AM (RHGPo)
Trump voters ?
… this being New York, nobody knows what they were arrested for
Posted by: SMOD at September 03, 2024 11:46 AM (RHGPo)
Trump voters ?
Posted by: It's me donna at September 03, 2024 11:46 AM (IyPmt)
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. . .
And I send him a big happy Hiya! from my heart.
Posted by: barbarausa at September 03, 2024 11:44 AM (enw9G)
Words to live by.
And I send him a big happy Hiya! from my heart.
Posted by: barbarausa at September 03, 2024 11:44 AM (enw9G)
Words to live by.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 03, 2024 11:47 AM (GqnhC)
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"The economics of warfare tells me the USA is toast."
They say the javelins cost $150,000 per shot. But USA has infinite money, so no big deal.
They say the javelins cost $150,000 per shot. But USA has infinite money, so no big deal.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 03, 2024 11:47 AM (Cus5s)
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However, he is the richest man or thereabouts, because he knows how to game the U.S. government's subsidy system. Now imagine how losing such would sway his position in turning against the public.
Even idealists have their limits. I don't trust him.
I disagree. Sure, he used the subsidies which our government foolishly offered, but he's been on a rampage for the last couple of years. He could have played nice, but instead chose the harder path. I think he has principles, and doesn't swerve from them. That's why the left hates him so.
Even idealists have their limits. I don't trust him.
I disagree. Sure, he used the subsidies which our government foolishly offered, but he's been on a rampage for the last couple of years. He could have played nice, but instead chose the harder path. I think he has principles, and doesn't swerve from them. That's why the left hates him so.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:47 AM (xCA6C)
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On the plus side, if the US military stops subsidizing international trade, it becomes a LOT more costly to offshore manufacturing.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 03, 2024 11:08 AM (N1DT3)
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We have to spend $800 billion a year to save $300 billion a year!
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 03, 2024 11:08 AM (N1DT3)
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We have to spend $800 billion a year to save $300 billion a year!
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 03, 2024 11:47 AM (1vkxO)
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Obviously with regard the Houthis we need George Bush and his strategery
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 03, 2024 11:48 AM (1G9mh)
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Houthis and the Blowfish are still touring I think…
Posted by: tubal at September 03, 2024 11:49 AM (PCK5/)
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I thought high-seas piracy, the classic kind, became untenable after the Age of Sail ended. Powered ships require fueling (coal or oil) and provisioning at ports, and the law can grab a pirate ship at such a port. Is it that more governments are simply ignoring piracy?
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I am not up on Naval stuff (nor Army stuff), but sail-powered ships needed food and water, provisioning at ports. The major fight against piracy with slavery, etc.
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I am not up on Naval stuff (nor Army stuff), but sail-powered ships needed food and water, provisioning at ports. The major fight against piracy with slavery, etc.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 03, 2024 11:49 AM (eRfHZ)
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Sun and her husband were probably arrested because they didn't kick back enough to my wonderful governor Hochul
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 03, 2024 11:50 AM (1G9mh)
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The George Washington is in San Diego instead of being in the far east in its Japanese home port. What’s going on?
Posted by: BigG at September 03, 2024 11:50 AM (dhVjM)
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CBD
I have rarely read of a sea service so flawed in strategic execution as today's USN.
The short campaign off of Yemen took 2.5 years of production of our premier Standard missiles. This makes us weaker, as China observed. Also, we can not load vertical launch systems at sea. Need to go to port. This is a 30 year old, known, deficiency.
W picked the wrong targets. As you say, huts and truck parks. The Israelis destroyed the ports, critical crane installations, and fuel. Note, no other attacks on Israel since then.
For maximum pain, stop the ability to offload food, and destroy the water infrastructure. They are in a desert. But we do not do that.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 03, 2024 11:25 AM (u82oZ)
This is the Old Stupidity of Titrating Aggression.
Supposedly, our ability to blow up any hut or camel in the desert will convince them of our might and get them to come to the table for a 50/50 bargain/agreement.
Don't want to look like racisty imperialists, you know.
It never works and it's always stupid. All it does is allow our enemies more time to kill our soldiers and sailors.
Feel the hate of Your Betters.
I have rarely read of a sea service so flawed in strategic execution as today's USN.
The short campaign off of Yemen took 2.5 years of production of our premier Standard missiles. This makes us weaker, as China observed. Also, we can not load vertical launch systems at sea. Need to go to port. This is a 30 year old, known, deficiency.
W picked the wrong targets. As you say, huts and truck parks. The Israelis destroyed the ports, critical crane installations, and fuel. Note, no other attacks on Israel since then.
For maximum pain, stop the ability to offload food, and destroy the water infrastructure. They are in a desert. But we do not do that.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 03, 2024 11:25 AM (u82oZ)
This is the Old Stupidity of Titrating Aggression.
Supposedly, our ability to blow up any hut or camel in the desert will convince them of our might and get them to come to the table for a 50/50 bargain/agreement.
Don't want to look like racisty imperialists, you know.
It never works and it's always stupid. All it does is allow our enemies more time to kill our soldiers and sailors.
Feel the hate of Your Betters.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 03, 2024 11:51 AM (eDfFs)
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It doesn’t help that we are deactivating 17 ships because it’s more important to train sailors in fashion and makeup classes then actual seamanship.
That, and the true patriots won’t sign up for this shit show anymore.
That, and the true patriots won’t sign up for this shit show anymore.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at September 03, 2024 11:51 AM (Aoykm)
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I'm positive this November will see the answer to many such questions.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at September 03, 2024 11:51 AM (hKoQL)
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The question is Where are the Marines? This is what they are trained to do. Don't fuck with our littoral areas.
Posted by: Pudinhead at September 03, 2024 11:51 AM (FmapG)
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I apologize for the OT but I just got to speak to JT and he sounds really good. He appreciates all of thinking of him
Posted by: Ben Had at September 03, 2024 11:02 AM (WbH4L)
Great news, for sure! Thank you for posting it.
Now, about that empty birdbath.
The Birds, local 370.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 03, 2024 11:02 AM (WbH4L)
Great news, for sure! Thank you for posting it.
Now, about that empty birdbath.
The Birds, local 370.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 03, 2024 11:51 AM (iODuv)
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This is the Old Stupidity of Titrating Aggression.
Supposedly, our ability to blow up any hut or camel in the desert will convince them of our might and get them to come to the table for a 50/50 bargain/agreement.
Making the rubble bounce is a strong motivator.
Supposedly, our ability to blow up any hut or camel in the desert will convince them of our might and get them to come to the table for a 50/50 bargain/agreement.
Making the rubble bounce is a strong motivator.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:52 AM (xCA6C)
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That, and the true patriots won’t sign up for this shit show anymore.
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This is true. Maybe the smart move is to launch the tranny battalions and see what happens?
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This is true. Maybe the smart move is to launch the tranny battalions and see what happens?
Posted by: Pudinhead at September 03, 2024 11:53 AM (FmapG)
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Most container shipping is now going around Africa now, due to the attacks. This adds time and cost to shipping. Tankers have to be in the area, as that is where their cargoes originate. The houthis hit two more tankers yesterday.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 03, 2024 11:53 AM (E/l+r)
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The economics of warfare tells me the USA is toast.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
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Depends on what the war is.
US has superior EW that can disrupt or even fry the electronics of cheap drones but at the cost of hindering ordinary communication links. Russia itself is using EW to degrade UKR's ability to use drones and I would imagine that UKR is returning the favor possibly with US assistance.
I'd imagine that the defense attaches and military advisors to Ukraine are busy studying tactics of drone use right now along with defenses to them.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
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Depends on what the war is.
US has superior EW that can disrupt or even fry the electronics of cheap drones but at the cost of hindering ordinary communication links. Russia itself is using EW to degrade UKR's ability to use drones and I would imagine that UKR is returning the favor possibly with US assistance.
I'd imagine that the defense attaches and military advisors to Ukraine are busy studying tactics of drone use right now along with defenses to them.
Posted by: whig at September 03, 2024 11:53 AM (kW+z9)
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Governments view piracy now as a private matter. Let the shipping companies and those with an interest in safe trade pay for it, they think.
Behind that, piracy has long been state sponsored or at least tolerated. Some very famous USS ships in our early years were basically pirate ships. Google John Paul Jones.
Behind that, piracy has long been state sponsored or at least tolerated. Some very famous USS ships in our early years were basically pirate ships. Google John Paul Jones.
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 03, 2024 11:54 AM (Eohux)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 03, 2024 11:54 AM (1G9mh)
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I'd imagine that the defense attaches and military advisors to Ukraine are busy studying tactics of drone use right now along with defenses to them.
I'm sure every country with a military is studying drone use tactics right now.
I'm sure every country with a military is studying drone use tactics right now.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:54 AM (xCA6C)
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OT:
Here's the new trailer for "Smile 2":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HY6QFlBzUY&t=128s
I thought the first one was a pretty good little horror movie built from bites of other better horror movies.
I liked it.
This looks to be more of the same with a bigger budget.
Here's the new trailer for "Smile 2":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HY6QFlBzUY&t=128s
I thought the first one was a pretty good little horror movie built from bites of other better horror movies.
I liked it.
This looks to be more of the same with a bigger budget.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 03, 2024 11:54 AM (eDfFs)
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175 The George Washington is in San Diego instead of being in the far east in its Japanese home port. What’s going on?
Posted by: BigG at September 03, 2024 11:50 AM (dhVjM)
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Taiwan better get used to being China’s “little sister”.
Posted by: BigG at September 03, 2024 11:50 AM (dhVjM)
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Taiwan better get used to being China’s “little sister”.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 03, 2024 11:54 AM (1vkxO)
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This is true. Maybe the smart move is to launch the tranny battalions and see what happens?
Posted by: Pudinhead
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The post op ones are not deployable as such. About the same as ones with HIV due to extensive drug regimens.
Posted by: Pudinhead
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The post op ones are not deployable as such. About the same as ones with HIV due to extensive drug regimens.
Posted by: whig at September 03, 2024 11:54 AM (kW+z9)
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I'd imagine that the defense attaches and military advisors to Ukraine are busy studying tactics of drone use right now along with defenses to them.
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They are and have been doing so for some time.
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They are and have been doing so for some time.
Posted by: Pudinhead at September 03, 2024 11:54 AM (FmapG)
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Not our problem to solve. American tax dollars should not be used to defend other nations waters.
Posted by: The last Patriot at September 03, 2024 11:56 AM (1ufgs)
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I disagree. Sure, he used the subsidies which our government foolishly offered, but he's been on a rampage for the last couple of years. He could have played nice, but instead chose the harder path. I think he has principles, and doesn't swerve from them. That's why the left hates him so.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:47 AM (xCA6C)
We're free to do that, for now, possibly not on Twitter.
But consider that Tesla would likely not exist without subsidies. SpaceX should be a no trainer. I haven't seen the numbers on Twitter, a business that does not operate on or on the basis of subsidies other than typical tax breaks.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:47 AM (xCA6C)
We're free to do that, for now, possibly not on Twitter.
But consider that Tesla would likely not exist without subsidies. SpaceX should be a no trainer. I haven't seen the numbers on Twitter, a business that does not operate on or on the basis of subsidies other than typical tax breaks.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 03, 2024 11:56 AM (i24o9)
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Those of us who "blame" Ukraine are just opposed to getting involved in absolutely every single fucking issue on the planet - and frequently starting issues so that we can get involved, sending our money and youths, all so some jackasses can advance the forces of globohomo.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 03, 2024 11:18 AM (IUd0M)
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Just remember to blame Russia as well.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 03, 2024 11:18 AM (IUd0M)
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Just remember to blame Russia as well.
Posted by: Black JEM at September 03, 2024 11:56 AM (GZYu7)
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189 175 The George Washington is in San Diego instead of being in the far east in its Japanese home port. What’s going on?
Posted by: BigG at September 03, 2024 11:50 AM (dhVjM)
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Remember Nasty Pelosi and her big money support of building chip manufacturing in California? My guess is they want to move TSMD to Cal and torch the facility in Taiwan. At the moment, there is no carrier group in the far east.
Posted by: BigG at September 03, 2024 11:50 AM (dhVjM)
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Taiwan better get used to being China’s “little sister”.
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Remember Nasty Pelosi and her big money support of building chip manufacturing in California? My guess is they want to move TSMD to Cal and torch the facility in Taiwan. At the moment, there is no carrier group in the far east.
Posted by: Pudinhead at September 03, 2024 11:57 AM (FmapG)
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maybe our leaders don't want to win
Posted by: brak at September 03, 2024 11:57 AM (NGHTx)
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The post op ones are not deployable as such. About the same as ones with HIV due to extensive drug regimens.
Posted by: whig at September 03, 2024 11:54 AM (kW+z9)
Train 'em to be kamikaze pilots. They are going to kill themselves eventually, anyway. May as well get some use out of it.
Posted by: whig at September 03, 2024 11:54 AM (kW+z9)
Train 'em to be kamikaze pilots. They are going to kill themselves eventually, anyway. May as well get some use out of it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 03, 2024 11:57 AM (Bhbkm)
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Taiwan better get used to being China’s “little sister”.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
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China has its own problems of an aging population, dependence on trade (the only growth in the Chinese economy is exporting its goods), and corruption in its military.
Failure theater is not unknown across the world to distract from internal problems.
We know when we know of issues just like the 90's spat between India and Pakistan nearly went nuclear due to idiotic terror attacks on India by the Paki affiliated terror groups. For the US policy makers, it was like a bolt from the blue but something obvious in hind sight.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
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China has its own problems of an aging population, dependence on trade (the only growth in the Chinese economy is exporting its goods), and corruption in its military.
Failure theater is not unknown across the world to distract from internal problems.
We know when we know of issues just like the 90's spat between India and Pakistan nearly went nuclear due to idiotic terror attacks on India by the Paki affiliated terror groups. For the US policy makers, it was like a bolt from the blue but something obvious in hind sight.
Posted by: whig at September 03, 2024 11:58 AM (kW+z9)
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The post op ones are not deployable as such. About the same as ones with HIV due to extensive drug regimens.
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Do any of the military branches accept diabetics?
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Do any of the military branches accept diabetics?
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 03, 2024 11:58 AM (eRfHZ)
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I really don’t whether Russia or Ukraine “wins”… have no idea what the winning would even look like, let alone why it would even matter o us..
Posted by: tubal at September 03, 2024 11:59 AM (PCK5/)
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I'd imagine that the defense attaches and military advisors to Ukraine are busy studying tactics of drone use right now along with defenses to them.
Posted by: whig at September 03, 2024 11:53 AM (kW+z9)
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We are spending $800 billion a year and our forces are the smallest since the “peace dividend”. I doubt we could go to war without breaking the bank,
Years for looting and grifting in the MIC has taken its toll.
Posted by: whig at September 03, 2024 11:53 AM (kW+z9)
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We are spending $800 billion a year and our forces are the smallest since the “peace dividend”. I doubt we could go to war without breaking the bank,
Years for looting and grifting in the MIC has taken its toll.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 03, 2024 11:59 AM (1vkxO)
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But consider that Tesla would likely not exist without subsidies. SpaceX should be a no trainer. I haven't seen the numbers on Twitter, a business that does not operate on or on the basis of subsidies other than typical tax breaks.
Like I said, he used subsidies because the government was foolish enough to offer them. It's like Trump using every tax deduction to which he's entitled. You can't expect Musk to compete without subsidies against every other EV company, all of who are taking them.
I assume you mean SpaceX is a no Brainer, but I'm not sure. I don't know if Elon got subsidies for SpaceX, as opposed to just a contract, but for comparison, how is Starliner doing?
Like I said, he used subsidies because the government was foolish enough to offer them. It's like Trump using every tax deduction to which he's entitled. You can't expect Musk to compete without subsidies against every other EV company, all of who are taking them.
I assume you mean SpaceX is a no Brainer, but I'm not sure. I don't know if Elon got subsidies for SpaceX, as opposed to just a contract, but for comparison, how is Starliner doing?
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:59 AM (xCA6C)
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Do any of the military branches accept diabetics?
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I'd guess the Navy would accept female morbidly obese diabetics.
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I'd guess the Navy would accept female morbidly obese diabetics.
Posted by: Pudinhead at September 03, 2024 12:00 PM (FmapG)
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Train 'em to be kamikaze pilots. They are going to kill themselves eventually, anyway. May as well get some use out of it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
We have a more general problem in slumping ability to deploy the folks that we have. Trannies are just the most recent.
In a general war when the normally un-deployable would be forced to deploy, it will be a significant headache to commanders in theater.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
We have a more general problem in slumping ability to deploy the folks that we have. Trannies are just the most recent.
In a general war when the normally un-deployable would be forced to deploy, it will be a significant headache to commanders in theater.
Posted by: whig at September 03, 2024 12:00 PM (kW+z9)
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should have inserted the word “ care” into my 200 comment , as in I don’t care who wins..
Posted by: tubal at September 03, 2024 12:00 PM (PCK5/)
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This is true. Maybe the smart move is to launch the tranny battalions and see what happens?
Posted by: Pudinhead
Sam Brinton with a suitcase nuke!
Posted by: Pudinhead
Sam Brinton with a suitcase nuke!
Posted by: Minnfidel at September 03, 2024 12:00 PM (ewjUl)
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Train 'em to be kamikaze pilots. They are going to kill themselves eventually, anyway. May as well get some use out of it.
Man, that's cold. I like it.
Man, that's cold. I like it.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 12:00 PM (xCA6C)
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… this being New York, nobody knows what they were arrested for
Posted by: SMOD at September 03, 2024 11:46 AM (RHGPo)
Found a pic of her online. She was probably arrested for being better looking than the ugly gov.
https://tinyurl.com/2rfxe8zp
Posted by: SMOD at September 03, 2024 11:46 AM (RHGPo)
Found a pic of her online. She was probably arrested for being better looking than the ugly gov.
https://tinyurl.com/2rfxe8zp
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 03, 2024 12:01 PM (0eaVi)
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Apparently piracy is still a modern issue. Companies exist to fight the pirates. Gear exists. I imagine it would be 'smash and grab' type of attacks. Like you point out, tough to take care of an entire ship...
Posted by: Stateless at September 03, 2024
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Nuclear-powered ships could go a long time without refueling; but only government$$$$ can afford those. (I presume, and hope. Unless some gang steals one. . . .)
Posted by: Stateless at September 03, 2024
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Nuclear-powered ships could go a long time without refueling; but only government$$$$ can afford those. (I presume, and hope. Unless some gang steals one. . . .)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 03, 2024 12:01 PM (J2vNu)
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this being New York, nobody knows what they were arrested for
Posted by: SMOD at September 03, 2024 11:46 AM (RHGPo)
They broke the “don’t piss off Democrats in charge”
Law.
Posted by: SMOD at September 03, 2024 11:46 AM (RHGPo)
They broke the “don’t piss off Democrats in charge”
Law.
Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 03, 2024 12:01 PM (8jog5)
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Video recorded by a witness showed Pearsall, shirtless with a large chest wound, being helped into an ambulance, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.
“This kind of violence is simply unacceptable in our city and we will do everything in our power to work with District Attorney Brooke Jenkins to ensure that justice is served in this matter,” Scott said.
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This is a Soros DA.
“This kind of violence is simply unacceptable in our city and we will do everything in our power to work with District Attorney Brooke Jenkins to ensure that justice is served in this matter,” Scott said.
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This is a Soros DA.
Posted by: Pudinhead at September 03, 2024 12:02 PM (FmapG)
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Just remember to blame Russia as well.
Posted by: Black JEM at September 03, 2024 11:56 AM (GZYu7)
Team Blame Russia has their own staff.
Posted by: Black JEM at September 03, 2024 11:56 AM (GZYu7)
Team Blame Russia has their own staff.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 03, 2024 12:02 PM (IUd0M)
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I’ve wondered if the J6 Gulag is the only Gulag our government runs…
Posted by: tubal at September 03, 2024 12:02 PM (PCK5/)
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Do any of the military branches accept diabetics?
Posted by: mustbequantum
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I did a quick check and it varies among the branches. The Navy is most accommodating while the AF and Army have specific A1C scores to stay in. Marines appears a no go.
However, none appear to accept Type 1 diabetics. Type 2 might be more of a problem enlisting but once in, all but the Marines have some accommodation for diabetes.
Posted by: mustbequantum
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I did a quick check and it varies among the branches. The Navy is most accommodating while the AF and Army have specific A1C scores to stay in. Marines appears a no go.
However, none appear to accept Type 1 diabetics. Type 2 might be more of a problem enlisting but once in, all but the Marines have some accommodation for diabetes.
Posted by: whig at September 03, 2024 12:03 PM (kW+z9)
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"He (Musk) has lost his privileges and it should be taken down".
"They are directly speaking to millions and millions of people without any level of oversight or regulation, and that has to stop."
EM must now know that he must assist with everything he has so that Trump, MAGA, etc wins in November or bad, very bad things are about to happen to him and his organizations...I am sure these quotes have crystallized that in his mind.
Posted by: Boswell at September 03, 2024 11:32 AM (K+UlC)
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These comments, and the arrest of Durov in France, actually give me a piece of mind I haven't had in some time. The billionaires realize they are not safe. They have the money and power to remove those who wish to make them not safe. The money is pouring into Trump's camp, as well as the type of behind the scenes support we never hear about, but which is critical to any campaign's success.
"They are directly speaking to millions and millions of people without any level of oversight or regulation, and that has to stop."
EM must now know that he must assist with everything he has so that Trump, MAGA, etc wins in November or bad, very bad things are about to happen to him and his organizations...I am sure these quotes have crystallized that in his mind.
Posted by: Boswell at September 03, 2024 11:32 AM (K+UlC)
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These comments, and the arrest of Durov in France, actually give me a piece of mind I haven't had in some time. The billionaires realize they are not safe. They have the money and power to remove those who wish to make them not safe. The money is pouring into Trump's camp, as well as the type of behind the scenes support we never hear about, but which is critical to any campaign's success.
Posted by: Black JEM at September 03, 2024 12:03 PM (GZYu7)
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I really don’t [care] whether Russia or Ukraine “wins”… have no idea what the winning would even look like, let alone why it would even matter o us..
Posted by: tubal at September 03, 2024 11:59 AM (PCK5/)
Agreed. The idea of an ascendant Russia is nutty. They will stop with Ukraine. And if Ukraine wins? Eh...I guess they will get lots of graft to rebuild. courtesy of the US taxpayer.
But that's about it.
Posted by: tubal at September 03, 2024 11:59 AM (PCK5/)
Agreed. The idea of an ascendant Russia is nutty. They will stop with Ukraine. And if Ukraine wins? Eh...I guess they will get lots of graft to rebuild. courtesy of the US taxpayer.
But that's about it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 03, 2024 12:04 PM (d9fT1)
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I am not up on Naval stuff (nor Army stuff), but sail-powered ships needed food and water, provisioning at ports. The major fight against piracy with slavery, etc.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 03, 2024
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True, but they could also stop at islands or foreign locations and buy, barter for, or outright steal food and water. Coal and oil would be much more difficult.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 03, 2024
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True, but they could also stop at islands or foreign locations and buy, barter for, or outright steal food and water. Coal and oil would be much more difficult.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 03, 2024 12:05 PM (J2vNu)
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"We are losing control of one of the main trade routes because of Iran,"
Just like the fall of the Byzantine Empire, which helped promote alternate routes for the spice trades, led to the discovery of the New World....and 500 years later we let these fckrs in freely. I know I'm being a little simplistic, but the scourge of the Islamists and our woke enablers has gotten out of hand
Just like the fall of the Byzantine Empire, which helped promote alternate routes for the spice trades, led to the discovery of the New World....and 500 years later we let these fckrs in freely. I know I'm being a little simplistic, but the scourge of the Islamists and our woke enablers has gotten out of hand
Posted by: Rex B at September 03, 2024 12:05 PM (592Pr)
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The admin would rather take the enormous reputation hit from the world that the US public in general won't understand or care than go against their ally in Iran.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 03, 2024 12:05 PM (r6a3I)
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These comments, and the arrest of Durov in France, actually give me a piece of mind I haven't had in some time. The billionaires realize they are not safe. They have the money and power to remove those who wish to make them not safe. The money is pouring into Trump's camp, as well as the type of behind the scenes support we never hear about, but which is critical to any campaign's success.
This is an excellent point. I hope they're talking with Jack Ma.
This is an excellent point. I hope they're talking with Jack Ma.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 12:05 PM (xCA6C)
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Found a pic of her online.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 03, 2024 12:01 PM (0eaVi)
She is cute.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 03, 2024 12:01 PM (0eaVi)
She is cute.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 03, 2024 12:06 PM (d9fT1)
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These are not soldiers of fortune. They're border line mall security guards with AR-15's. Shooting at boats a half mile away. And missing.
I can kind of see this from a tactical perspective. If just letting them know that you're armed makes the boat turn around and go away, you've achieved your main objective. On the other hand, if you wait until they get close enough to shoot at accurately, then they're also close enough to shoot at you accurately.
I can kind of see this from a tactical perspective. If just letting them know that you're armed makes the boat turn around and go away, you've achieved your main objective. On the other hand, if you wait until they get close enough to shoot at accurately, then they're also close enough to shoot at you accurately.
Posted by: Oddbob at September 03, 2024 12:06 PM (/y8xj)
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Every country that benefits from open waterways protected by the US should contribute to funding that protection. Oh, and also, shut the fuck up if they don't.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 03, 2024 12:06 PM (wBaIH)
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OT the tranifesto from the Nashville shooter has been released. Surprise, the critter was a bat shit crazy leftist
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 03, 2024 12:06 PM (1G9mh)
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Ben Had if you're still here thanks so much for sharing good news about JT and sending along our cards and love to him!
JT if you're lurking, big hugs and all the hiyas to you!
JT if you're lurking, big hugs and all the hiyas to you!
Posted by: screaming in digital at September 03, 2024 12:06 PM (DO4tW)
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Agreed. The idea of an ascendant Russia is nutty. They will stop with Ukraine.
Then it's surprising how many of the frontline states disagree with you, based on their escalating military budgets. They aren't worried about Germany.
Then it's surprising how many of the frontline states disagree with you, based on their escalating military budgets. They aren't worried about Germany.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 12:07 PM (xCA6C)
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The question is Where are the Marines? This is what they are trained to do. Don't fuck with our littoral areas.
Posted by: Pudinhead at September 03, 2024 11:51 AM (FmapG)
If you can find them.
Posted by: Pudinhead at September 03, 2024 11:51 AM (FmapG)
If you can find them.
Posted by: Women Everywhere at September 03, 2024 12:07 PM (GqnhC)
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224 OT the tranifesto from the Nashville shooter has been released. Surprise, the critter was a bat shit crazy leftist
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Was there any doubt?
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Was there any doubt?
Posted by: Pudinhead at September 03, 2024 12:07 PM (FmapG)
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I know I'm being a little simplistic, but the scourge of the Islamists and our woke enablers has gotten out of hand
Posted by: Rex B at September 03, 2024 12:05 PM (592Pr)
No...you aren't.
Islam is one of two existential problems in the West.
Posted by: Rex B at September 03, 2024 12:05 PM (592Pr)
No...you aren't.
Islam is one of two existential problems in the West.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 03, 2024 12:07 PM (d9fT1)
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I saw The Tranny Battalions open for The B-52's at Armadillo World Headquarters in '80.
Posted by: ShainS -- If Your Independence Lasts Over 4 Hours, You May Have Been Red-Pilled at September 03, 2024 12:07 PM (WlJra)
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Iran is a pissant country with the GDP of Dallas-Ft Worth, almost all of which comes from a commodity that must be exported by exposed pipeline or tanker.
Put me in charge and I will have the Mullahs overthrown in six months without putting a boot on the ground.
Put me in charge and I will have the Mullahs overthrown in six months without putting a boot on the ground.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) reminds you at September 03, 2024 12:07 PM (cw9q7)
Posted by: Bert G at September 03, 2024 12:07 PM (VARTN)
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We need JT back toot sweet for many good reasons. One of the minor reasons is that Skip keeps breaking his birdbath. Too many dirty birds flying around.
Posted by: Launder As Usual at September 03, 2024 12:08 PM (CV8a5)
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200 I really don’t whether Russia or Ukraine “wins”… have no idea what the winning would even look like, let alone why it would even matter o us..
Posted by: tubal
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Both UKR and Russia flunked the 'winning' part of the test because their war has been wasteful, broke a lot of things, and killed a lot of useful people to society.
For example, we went to war with Iraq twice. Did we 'win' in the long run?
Posted by: tubal
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Both UKR and Russia flunked the 'winning' part of the test because their war has been wasteful, broke a lot of things, and killed a lot of useful people to society.
For example, we went to war with Iraq twice. Did we 'win' in the long run?
Posted by: whig at September 03, 2024 12:08 PM (kW+z9)
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They are surrendering on all fronts, including non-military. I have heard Trump say "we have so much great (military) tech, it's amazing what we have" (paraphrased). I sure hope so ... but it seems like we are not keeping up. But many nations put out a lot of propaganda about their incredible weapons ... hopefully someone at Foggy bottom or the Pentagon is keeping up?
Posted by: illiniwek at September 03, 2024 11:21 AM (Cus5s)
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I think we would all be surprised by how lethal we are when we wish to be. There is no single nation that could if we were determined stand up to us for much more than a month. Our capability to see and know what is going on in the other man's camp is much more extensive than you could ever imagine, and our ability to rain power at specific points is unsurpassed.
Our elite know this, and that is why their biggest problem is with us, because we the people do have the ability to beat them, and they don't like it one bit.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 03, 2024 11:21 AM (Cus5s)
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I think we would all be surprised by how lethal we are when we wish to be. There is no single nation that could if we were determined stand up to us for much more than a month. Our capability to see and know what is going on in the other man's camp is much more extensive than you could ever imagine, and our ability to rain power at specific points is unsurpassed.
Our elite know this, and that is why their biggest problem is with us, because we the people do have the ability to beat them, and they don't like it one bit.
Posted by: Black JEM at September 03, 2024 12:08 PM (GZYu7)
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227 The question is Where are the Marines? This is what they are trained to do. Don't fuck with our littoral areas.
Posted by: Pudinhead at September 03, 2024 11:51 AM (FmapG)
If you can find them.
Posted by: Women Everywhere
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Just pay the bar fine and do some vigorous stroking and poking.
Posted by: Pudinhead at September 03, 2024 11:51 AM (FmapG)
If you can find them.
Posted by: Women Everywhere
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Just pay the bar fine and do some vigorous stroking and poking.
Posted by: Pudinhead at September 03, 2024 12:08 PM (FmapG)
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I can kind of see this from a tactical perspective. If just letting them know that you're armed makes the boat turn around and go away, you've achieved your main objective. On the other hand, if you wait until they get close enough to shoot at accurately, then they're also close enough to shoot at you accurately.
Except you can shelter behind a steel bulkhead on a large, stable ship (aka shooting platform), while they're bouncing around in an open dinghy.
Except you can shelter behind a steel bulkhead on a large, stable ship (aka shooting platform), while they're bouncing around in an open dinghy.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 12:08 PM (xCA6C)
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Like I said, he used subsidies because the government was foolish enough to offer them.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:59 AM (xCA6C)
This is an odd statement, considering it presumes a level of competence or thriftiness in government spending.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:59 AM (xCA6C)
This is an odd statement, considering it presumes a level of competence or thriftiness in government spending.
Posted by: Women Everywhere at September 03, 2024 12:09 PM (GqnhC)
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"I'm speaking."
Posted by: m at September 03, 2024 12:10 PM (64Zez)
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I’ve wondered if the J6 Gulag is the only Gulag our government runs…
Posted by: tubal at September 03, 2024 12:02 PM (PCK5/)
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Do most American public schools, from day care & elementary to college & university, count?
/only half-joking
Posted by: tubal at September 03, 2024 12:02 PM (PCK5/)
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Do most American public schools, from day care & elementary to college & university, count?
/only half-joking
Posted by: ShainS -- If Your Independence Lasts Over 4 Hours, You May Have Been Red-Pilled at September 03, 2024 12:10 PM (WlJra)
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Like I said, he used subsidies because the government was foolish enough to offer them.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:59 AM (xCA6C)
This is an odd statement, considering it presumes a level of competence or thriftiness in government spending.
I don't really understand this comment, but I'm sure I agree.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:59 AM (xCA6C)
This is an odd statement, considering it presumes a level of competence or thriftiness in government spending.
I don't really understand this comment, but I'm sure I agree.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 12:10 PM (xCA6C)
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The post op ones are not deployable as such. About the same as ones with HIV due to extensive drug regimens.
Posted by: whig
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Front line material.
The post op ones are not deployable as such. About the same as ones with HIV due to extensive drug regimens.
Posted by: whig
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Front line material.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 03, 2024 12:10 PM (ah1Jo)
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224 OT the tranifesto from the Nashville shooter has been released. Surprise, the critter was a bat shit crazy leftist
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 03, 2024 12:06 PM (1G9mh)
Oh, good! I thought they were going to keep that from us.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 03, 2024 12:06 PM (1G9mh)
Oh, good! I thought they were going to keep that from us.
Posted by: m at September 03, 2024 12:11 PM (64Zez)
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 12:11 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: The Concierge at September 03, 2024 12:11 PM (CV8a5)
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If the USN can't do it, maybe hand it off to the USAF. Do an "elephant walk" of all available aircraft at Barksdale (B52)and Whiteman (B1) AFBs with tanker support from Tinker AFB. Starting at the coastline, just carpet bomb the shit out of those 7th century savages. Opens the Gulf of Aden, the Red Sea AND rotates the bomb stocks
Posted by: Stacy0311 at September 03, 2024 12:11 PM (EweRc)
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229 I know I'm being a little simplistic, but the scourge of the Islamists and our woke enablers has gotten out of hand
Posted by: Rex B at September 03, 2024 12:05 PM (592Pr)
No...you aren't.
Islam is one of two existential problems in the West.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 03, 2024 12:07 PM (d9fT1)
We have no will to do what is necessary to subdue Islam… TPTB are willfully blind to what that religion is, and how seriously its’ practitioners are about their fundamental doctrine…
Posted by: Rex B at September 03, 2024 12:05 PM (592Pr)
No...you aren't.
Islam is one of two existential problems in the West.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 03, 2024 12:07 PM (d9fT1)
We have no will to do what is necessary to subdue Islam… TPTB are willfully blind to what that religion is, and how seriously its’ practitioners are about their fundamental doctrine…
Posted by: tubal at September 03, 2024 12:11 PM (PCK5/)
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How much of the tranifesto was redacted (or just rewritten)? Were any names mentioned?
Posted by: Bulg at September 03, 2024 12:12 PM (v6JzV)
249
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The post op ones are not deployable as such. About the same as ones with HIV due to extensive drug regimens.
Posted by: whig
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Front line material.
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Make them mine detectors.
The post op ones are not deployable as such. About the same as ones with HIV due to extensive drug regimens.
Posted by: whig
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Front line material.
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Make them mine detectors.
Posted by: Pudinhead at September 03, 2024 12:12 PM (FmapG)
250
Oh, good! I thought they were going to keep that from us.
Posted by: m at September 03, 2024 12:11 PM (64Zez)
They tried and I can see why.. Paints a pretty clear picture of the insanity of "Transgender"
Posted by: m at September 03, 2024 12:11 PM (64Zez)
They tried and I can see why.. Paints a pretty clear picture of the insanity of "Transgender"
Posted by: It's me donna at September 03, 2024 12:12 PM (IyPmt)
251
how is Starliner doing?
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:59 AM (xCA6C)
You seem to presume that I am generally critical of all of EM's businesses and their related aspects. This is mistaken.
The criticism (stated generally) is that he is in bed with an increasingly tyrannical U.S. government, having made his bones largely off of its patronage (the continued viability of which is in question). I don't trust him, despite his stated "ideals."
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:59 AM (xCA6C)
You seem to presume that I am generally critical of all of EM's businesses and their related aspects. This is mistaken.
The criticism (stated generally) is that he is in bed with an increasingly tyrannical U.S. government, having made his bones largely off of its patronage (the continued viability of which is in question). I don't trust him, despite his stated "ideals."
Posted by: Women Everywhere at September 03, 2024 12:12 PM (GqnhC)
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The post op ones are not deployable as such. About the same as ones with HIV due to extensive drug regimens.
Posted by: whig
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Front line material.
Posted by: Braenyard
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Well, Russia did something like that to their jail populations. Ukraine too probably. Don't think the medical unfit would reach even the level of released criminals as far as effectiveness.
Posted by: whig
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Front line material.
Posted by: Braenyard
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Well, Russia did something like that to their jail populations. Ukraine too probably. Don't think the medical unfit would reach even the level of released criminals as far as effectiveness.
Posted by: whig at September 03, 2024 12:12 PM (kW+z9)
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how is Starliner doing?
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:59 AM (xCA6C)
You seem to presume that I am generally critical of all of EM's businesses and their related aspects. This is mistaken.
Quite possible. I wasn't sure what you were saying. My point wasn't an attack on you.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:59 AM (xCA6C)
You seem to presume that I am generally critical of all of EM's businesses and their related aspects. This is mistaken.
Quite possible. I wasn't sure what you were saying. My point wasn't an attack on you.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 12:13 PM (xCA6C)
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239 "I'm speaking."
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Go ahead, spit out some word salad to get the cat ladies moist for the first time since Obama occupied the White House.
You can speak all you want and still not make any sense you empty headed whore.
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Go ahead, spit out some word salad to get the cat ladies moist for the first time since Obama occupied the White House.
You can speak all you want and still not make any sense you empty headed whore.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 03, 2024 12:14 PM (r6a3I)
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Except you can shelter behind a steel bulkhead on a large, stable ship (aka shooting platform), while they're bouncing around in an open dinghy.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 12:08 PM (xCA6C)
Seems to me that rocket-propelled grenades, or shoulder-launched missiles would be effective against camel jockeys in speedboats.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 12:08 PM (xCA6C)
Seems to me that rocket-propelled grenades, or shoulder-launched missiles would be effective against camel jockeys in speedboats.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 03, 2024 12:14 PM (Bhbkm)
256
I apologize for the OT but I just got to speak to JT and he sounds really good. He appreciates all of thinking of him
Posted by: Ben Had
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How beautiful on the mountains are the feet of the messenger bringing good news...
Posted by: Ben Had
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How beautiful on the mountains are the feet of the messenger bringing good news...
Posted by: Isaiah at September 03, 2024 12:14 PM (XeU6L)
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Then it's surprising how many of the frontline states disagree with you, based on their escalating military budgets. They aren't worried about Germany.
Posted by: Archimedes
Those frontline states are looking for a distraction from the fact that they are undemocratic crapholes that censor their political rivals, import garbage population, and are as into globohomo almost as much as Ukraine.
Posted by: Archimedes
Those frontline states are looking for a distraction from the fact that they are undemocratic crapholes that censor their political rivals, import garbage population, and are as into globohomo almost as much as Ukraine.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 03, 2024 12:15 PM (Mri0g)
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*off littoral obsessives sock*
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 03, 2024 12:15 PM (GqnhC)
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Seems to me that rocket-propelled grenades, or shoulder-launched missiles would be effective against camel jockeys in speedboats.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 03, 2024 12:14 PM (Bhbkm)
There's no pirate that Ma Deuce can't handle.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 03, 2024 12:14 PM (Bhbkm)
There's no pirate that Ma Deuce can't handle.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) reminds you at September 03, 2024 12:15 PM (cw9q7)
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I don't trust him, despite his stated "ideals."
Posted by: Women Everywhere at September 03, 2024 12:12 PM (GqnhC)
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I trust very few, I acknowledge that right now it appears my interests and his align, so I am happy to accept Musk's help and cheer him on.
Posted by: Women Everywhere at September 03, 2024 12:12 PM (GqnhC)
==
I trust very few, I acknowledge that right now it appears my interests and his align, so I am happy to accept Musk's help and cheer him on.
Posted by: Black JEM at September 03, 2024 12:16 PM (GZYu7)
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These comments, and the arrest of Durov in France, actually give me a piece of mind I haven't had in some time. The billionaires realize they are not safe. They have the money and power to remove those who wish to make them not safe. The money is pouring into Trump's camp, as well as the type of behind the scenes support we never hear about, but which is critical to any campaign's success.
Posted by: Black JEM at September 03, 2024 12:03 PM (GZYu7)
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Most billionaires will pony up their pocket change to keep in the good graces of tyrannical governments
Posted by: Black JEM at September 03, 2024 12:03 PM (GZYu7)
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Most billionaires will pony up their pocket change to keep in the good graces of tyrannical governments
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 03, 2024 12:16 PM (1vkxO)
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The criticism (stated generally) is that he is in bed with an increasingly tyrannical U.S. government, having made his bones largely off of its patronage (the continued viability of which is in question). I don't trust him, despite his stated "ideals."
Look at the recent history of SpaceX. The government has done everything it could to slow them down, presumably because they wanted their more easily controlled pet, Bezos, to win. It must have really gotten their shorts in a twist to have to use SpaceX to return the astronauts.
The point is, Musk is NOT on their good list, and there are many reasons for that.
Look at the recent history of SpaceX. The government has done everything it could to slow them down, presumably because they wanted their more easily controlled pet, Bezos, to win. It must have really gotten their shorts in a twist to have to use SpaceX to return the astronauts.
The point is, Musk is NOT on their good list, and there are many reasons for that.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 12:16 PM (xCA6C)
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>>> 24 Damn Jews can't be trusted to use them wisely.
Britain's New Left-Wing Government Suspends Some Arms Export Licenses to Israel
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at September 03, 2024 11:09 AM (L/fGl)
I've seen some claims that these same Brit super geniuses pushed the Kursk invasion.
Britain's New Left-Wing Government Suspends Some Arms Export Licenses to Israel
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at September 03, 2024 11:09 AM (L/fGl)
I've seen some claims that these same Brit super geniuses pushed the Kursk invasion.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 03, 2024 12:16 PM (FnneF)
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Well, Russia did something like that to their jail populations. Ukraine too probably. Don't think the medical unfit would reach even the level of released criminals as far as effectiveness.
Posted by: whig
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Month or so ago saw an article on the first group of Russian ex-cons coming home to Mother with freedom and pockets full of bonus money,
Well, Russia did something like that to their jail populations. Ukraine too probably. Don't think the medical unfit would reach even the level of released criminals as far as effectiveness.
Posted by: whig
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Month or so ago saw an article on the first group of Russian ex-cons coming home to Mother with freedom and pockets full of bonus money,
Posted by: Braenyard at September 03, 2024 12:16 PM (ah1Jo)
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I apologize for the OT but I just got to speak to JT and he sounds really good. He appreciates all of thinking of him.
Posted by: Ben Had
Excellent. Thank you Ben.
Posted by: Ben Had
Excellent. Thank you Ben.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 03, 2024 12:17 PM (SpgZO)
266
ike I said, he used subsidies because the government was foolish enough to offer them.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:59 AM (xCA6C)
This is an odd statement, considering it presumes a level of competence or thriftiness in government spending.
I don't really understand this comment, but I'm sure I agree.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 12:10 PM (xCA6C)
In deciding on what subsidies to provide and to whom, does competence or thriftiness (presumed opposites of foolishness) enter the minds of government and it's bureaucrats?
On rare occasion, perhaps.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 11:59 AM (xCA6C)
This is an odd statement, considering it presumes a level of competence or thriftiness in government spending.
I don't really understand this comment, but I'm sure I agree.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 12:10 PM (xCA6C)
In deciding on what subsidies to provide and to whom, does competence or thriftiness (presumed opposites of foolishness) enter the minds of government and it's bureaucrats?
On rare occasion, perhaps.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 03, 2024 12:17 PM (GqnhC)
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I'm working at a colleague's desk and there is a 5 lb basket filled with Hershey'ses, Reese'ses, Almond Joyses, Kit Katses on top. In 1 hour it will be 4 lb basket.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 03, 2024 12:17 PM (oXJtT)
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Seems to me that rocket-propelled grenades, or shoulder-launched missiles would be effective against camel jockeys in speedboats.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 03, 2024 12:14 PM (Bhbkm)
Freighters have a large store of petroleum products onboard. Seems a system which would expel a stream of said petroleum products with an ignition source would be, potentially, more effective and likely cheaper.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 03, 2024 12:14 PM (Bhbkm)
Freighters have a large store of petroleum products onboard. Seems a system which would expel a stream of said petroleum products with an ignition source would be, potentially, more effective and likely cheaper.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 03, 2024 12:18 PM (IUd0M)
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>>> 251
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I don't trust him, despite his stated "ideals."
Posted by: Women Everywhere at September 03, 2024 12:12 PM (GqnhC)
How do you feel about us?
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I don't trust him, despite his stated "ideals."
Posted by: Women Everywhere at September 03, 2024 12:12 PM (GqnhC)
How do you feel about us?
Posted by: bears at September 03, 2024 12:18 PM (FnneF)
270
I apologize for the OT but I just got to speak to JT and he sounds really good. He appreciates all of thinking of him.
Posted by: Ben Had
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Hiya JT
Posted by: Ben Had
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Hiya JT
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 03, 2024 12:18 PM (oXJtT)
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The point is, Musk is NOT on their good list, and there are many reasons for that.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 12:16 PM (xCA6C)
He was for a very long time, until he wasn't.
And when the pain becomes too much for him to bear? What then of his ideals? This illustrates why I don't trust him.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 12:16 PM (xCA6C)
He was for a very long time, until he wasn't.
And when the pain becomes too much for him to bear? What then of his ideals? This illustrates why I don't trust him.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 03, 2024 12:19 PM (GqnhC)
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In deciding on what subsidies to provide and to whom, does competence or thriftiness (presumed opposites of foolishness) enter the minds of government and it's bureaucrats?
On rare occasion, perhaps.
Agree. See the discussion about SpaceX at #262. They had to give Elon the subsidies whether they wanted to or not.
On rare occasion, perhaps.
Agree. See the discussion about SpaceX at #262. They had to give Elon the subsidies whether they wanted to or not.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 12:19 PM (xCA6C)
273
Hope JT returns… no idea why he’s absent..
Posted by: tubal at September 03, 2024 12:19 PM (PCK5/)
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Nood. Clooney.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 03, 2024 12:19 PM (IUd0M)
275
nood
Posted by: IC - #FJB at September 03, 2024 12:19 PM (ZtyUu)
276
How do you feel about us?
Posted by: bears at September 03, 2024 12:18 PM (FnneF)
I pack when I am in your domain. No trust.
Posted by: bears at September 03, 2024 12:18 PM (FnneF)
I pack when I am in your domain. No trust.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 03, 2024 12:19 PM (GqnhC)
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And when the pain becomes too much for him to bear? What then of his ideals? This illustrates why I don't trust him.
A few hundred billion dollars buys you a pretty high pain tolerance. Besides, it's clear to me that he's a man on a mission, and the government is standing between him and the mission's completion.
A few hundred billion dollars buys you a pretty high pain tolerance. Besides, it's clear to me that he's a man on a mission, and the government is standing between him and the mission's completion.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2024 12:20 PM (xCA6C)
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Most billionaires will pony up their pocket change to keep in the good graces of tyrannical governments
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
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Fear is replacing greed. The problem with billionaires is that they are simply the golden goose to the left to be eaten.
Sort of like Kipling's poem where if you accept the Danegeld, you never get rid of the Danes.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
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Fear is replacing greed. The problem with billionaires is that they are simply the golden goose to the left to be eaten.
Sort of like Kipling's poem where if you accept the Danegeld, you never get rid of the Danes.
Posted by: whig at September 03, 2024 12:21 PM (kW+z9)
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Most billionaires will pony up their pocket change to keep in the good graces of tyrannical governments
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 03, 2024 12:16 PM (1vkxO)
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Yes they will, until you reach a tipping point. The Founders were wealthy men, men of the world as they knew it, but they finally had it with mother England. Today, wealthy Jews are beginning to realize that being wealthy won't help them from being targeted because they are Jewish. Social media moguls realize one political philosophy means toe the line or else. And it isn't Ma in a communist authoritarian system they they now have to worry about.
Wealthy people got wealthy exploiting something with their brains and ingenuity. At a certain point, that takes over. We have a fight of the elites going on right now. Those pissed off enough to break away, if sufficient in number almost always win.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 03, 2024 12:16 PM (1vkxO)
==
Yes they will, until you reach a tipping point. The Founders were wealthy men, men of the world as they knew it, but they finally had it with mother England. Today, wealthy Jews are beginning to realize that being wealthy won't help them from being targeted because they are Jewish. Social media moguls realize one political philosophy means toe the line or else. And it isn't Ma in a communist authoritarian system they they now have to worry about.
Wealthy people got wealthy exploiting something with their brains and ingenuity. At a certain point, that takes over. We have a fight of the elites going on right now. Those pissed off enough to break away, if sufficient in number almost always win.
Posted by: Black JEM at September 03, 2024 12:22 PM (GZYu7)
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Month or so ago saw an article on the first group of Russian ex-cons coming home to Mother with freedom and pockets full of bonus money,
Posted by: Braenyard
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Those are the rare ones. Chances are, they will go right back to crime and jail subsequently. US had similar experiences during general conscription.
Posted by: Braenyard
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Those are the rare ones. Chances are, they will go right back to crime and jail subsequently. US had similar experiences during general conscription.
Posted by: whig at September 03, 2024 12:23 PM (kW+z9)
281
33 >The Houthis now rule the Red Sea: America has silently admitted defeat
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I think it's more 'won't fight' than 'can't fight'
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That is what I feel too. Since Obummer is shot caller for the Regime, his Muslim-loving ways and subordinates hold sway in their counsels. We have a bunch of Wormtongues telling our corrupt, senile President and AWOL Vice-President that it is alright for the Corsairs of Umbar to operate freely of the coasts of the Middle East and Africa. The Navy of the ships at sea (such is left of them_ wish to fight. They are not being allowed to fight, save for some demonstrations for the complicit news media. Otherwise, it's favoratism to iran, our sworn enemy for 44 years.
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I think it's more 'won't fight' than 'can't fight'
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That is what I feel too. Since Obummer is shot caller for the Regime, his Muslim-loving ways and subordinates hold sway in their counsels. We have a bunch of Wormtongues telling our corrupt, senile President and AWOL Vice-President that it is alright for the Corsairs of Umbar to operate freely of the coasts of the Middle East and Africa. The Navy of the ships at sea (such is left of them_ wish to fight. They are not being allowed to fight, save for some demonstrations for the complicit news media. Otherwise, it's favoratism to iran, our sworn enemy for 44 years.
Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at September 03, 2024 12:24 PM (W+kMI)
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There's no pirate that Ma Deuce can't handle.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) reminds you at September 03, 2024 12:15 PM (cw9q7)
True, but that's a crew-served weapon, and has to be securely bolted to the deck of the ship. Man-portable weapons can be supplied to ships' crews as required. Or put a commando team so armed aboard ships about to enter pirate-infested waters.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) reminds you at September 03, 2024 12:15 PM (cw9q7)
True, but that's a crew-served weapon, and has to be securely bolted to the deck of the ship. Man-portable weapons can be supplied to ships' crews as required. Or put a commando team so armed aboard ships about to enter pirate-infested waters.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 03, 2024 12:24 PM (Bhbkm)
283
remember in Iron Man II when Tony Stark got hauled before a Senate cmte- they wanted his 'suit' and he said
'you can't have it''
'you can't have it''
Posted by: Don Black at September 03, 2024 12:25 PM (/7KEl)
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The historical parallel of the problem the navy has today is the problem it had with Japanese Kamikazes near the end of World War II.
"The Fleet that Came to Stay" off Okinawa in 1945 had been built to destroy the Japanese navy, and had succeeded. But now it was faced with thousands of land-based suicide aircraft, and it wasn't designed to do that. As a result, it took a pounding.
What enabled it to stay on station and prevail was a massive fleet logistics train. We could stay off Okinawa because of a steady stream of replacement aircraft, ships, and munitions.
We don't really have that today. A CVTG today has 1 replenishment vessel.
Not enough AOEs, and a handful of destroyers with missiles that can't be replenished at sea. So, we have a hit-and-run navy now.
"The Fleet that Came to Stay" off Okinawa in 1945 had been built to destroy the Japanese navy, and had succeeded. But now it was faced with thousands of land-based suicide aircraft, and it wasn't designed to do that. As a result, it took a pounding.
What enabled it to stay on station and prevail was a massive fleet logistics train. We could stay off Okinawa because of a steady stream of replacement aircraft, ships, and munitions.
We don't really have that today. A CVTG today has 1 replenishment vessel.
Not enough AOEs, and a handful of destroyers with missiles that can't be replenished at sea. So, we have a hit-and-run navy now.
Posted by: Taylor Lake at September 03, 2024 12:26 PM (vo+XL)
285
So it would seem that Obama has succeeded in fundamentally transforming America.
Posted by: Chillin the most at September 03, 2024 12:37 PM (AhKLt)
286
Oh goodie! Venezuelan gangs take over apartments in Chicago now, too.
Posted by: Piper at September 03, 2024 12:37 PM (pZEOD)
287
Giving the Houthis control of the Red Sea / Suez is only step one. The next step is to make Gibraltar impassible. That pretty well consigns southern Europe and Northern Africa to the dustbin of history.
The US State Department and the US military are pretty muck OK with that.
The US State Department and the US military are pretty muck OK with that.
Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at September 03, 2024 01:11 PM (TOe+Q)
288
to win you have to be relentless and brutal. You need to be willing to do shit the Houthis will tell their fucking ancestors, if they have any. "Don't ever, EVER interfere with Red Sea shipping."
Each ship attacked; a Houthis village is jdam'd. Keep doing it till morale improves. Make no bones about it.
Destroy everything that floats in Yemen. Bomb every port. Give them no quarter.
Every three months or so declare a "pause." If no ships are attacked, that's the end of it. If they are, go right back to it.
Each ship attacked; a Houthis village is jdam'd. Keep doing it till morale improves. Make no bones about it.
Destroy everything that floats in Yemen. Bomb every port. Give them no quarter.
Every three months or so declare a "pause." If no ships are attacked, that's the end of it. If they are, go right back to it.
Posted by: El Mariachi at September 03, 2024 01:23 PM (ARlwA)
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"The author is a bit histrionic, and no doubt his pessimism is driven in part by being a sophisticated Scandinavian."
Malcolm Kyeyune is as Scandinavian as Ta-nehisi Coates.
Malcolm Kyeyune is as Scandinavian as Ta-nehisi Coates.
Posted by: Simon Jester at September 03, 2024 02:01 PM (BSu3l)
290
How can anyone in the upper command levels of the US Military stomach this kowtowing to Iran?
Posted by: setnaffa at September 03, 2024 02:39 PM (nOVGb)
291
boats can't hold ground, aircraft can't hold ground. A tale as old as time.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 03, 2024 03:59 PM (n7h9X)
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Destroy everything that floats in Yemen. Bomb every port. Give them no quarter.
Every three months or so declare a "pause." If no ships are attacked, that's the end of it. If they are, go right back to it.
Posted by: El Mariachi at September 03, 2024 01:23 PM (ARlwA)
Nothing floats in Yemen, they are a land based power. This kind of thinking that bombers can do anything is behind many of our diplo-military disasters over the last 50 odd years.
Every three months or so declare a "pause." If no ships are attacked, that's the end of it. If they are, go right back to it.
Posted by: El Mariachi at September 03, 2024 01:23 PM (ARlwA)
Nothing floats in Yemen, they are a land based power. This kind of thinking that bombers can do anything is behind many of our diplo-military disasters over the last 50 odd years.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 03, 2024 04:01 PM (n7h9X)
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It's time for Operation Linebacker III. Park a carrier off the Yemeni coast and bomb them 24/7 along with B-52's flying out of Guam. They fucked around, and now it's time for them to really find out.
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Integrity SAT's: Entrance Exam for Paul Anka's Band
AllahPundit's Paul Anka 45's Collection
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George Bush Slices Don Rumsfeld Like an F*ckin' Hammer
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Democratic Forays into Erotica
New Shows On Gore's DNC/MTV Network
Nicknames for Potatoes, By People Who Really Hate Potatoes
Star Wars Euphemisms for Self-Abuse
Signs You're at an Iraqi "Wedding Party"
Signs Your Clown Has Gone Bad
Signs That You, Geroge Michael, Should Probably Just Give It Up
Signs of Hip-Hop Influence on John Kerry
NYT Headlines Spinning Bush's Jobs Boom
Things People Are More Likely to Say Than "Did You Hear What Al Franken Said Yesterday?"
Signs that Paul Krugman Has Lost His Frickin' Mind
All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd
Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran
Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore
Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery
Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile
Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance
Collective Names for Groups of People
John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets
Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle
Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy
Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive"
Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
John Edwards Campaign Excuses
John Kerry Pick-Up Lines
Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney
Torments in Dog-Hell
Greatest Hitjobs
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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