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Holy Shitballs! How in the ever-loving Hell did it get to be the end of August? You may recall last week we had a mini-lesson on how the calendar works, where first we have August and then we have September, so this is the final August Gun Thread and next week we have a September Gun Thread!! I am writing this earlier than usual (on Wednesday rather than Saturday) because I am headed to the farm-o in the morning for a few days. I have a bunch of chores to do there and should hopefully be home by the time this goes up on Sunday. Thanks for understanding this being a content-lite edition, as I need to get back to my roots on the land of the Organic Tree Farm.

Sunday Update - Weasel Down! Weasel Down!!
I'm back a little earlier than expected because I managed to mess up my ankle. Organic Tree Farming is not for the faint of heart nor the faint of ankle! I stepped on a rock and my ankle rolled in a way it was clearly not designed to do. Anyhoo, I drove home and went to an urgent care place for an x-ray and I'll be visiting my ankle guy tomorrow for an MRI. In the meantime, it's a delightful shade of black and blue and purple, and I'm keeping it elevated, using ice and taking drugs. Think I'll go operate some heavy machinery!

Actually I will likely just be snoozing, so please forgive me if I am not in the comments much tonight. Appreciate it!

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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FUNdamentals

Q: Weasel, since you're lame-o, do we get a week off from fundamentals?
A: No.

What is your favorite fundamentals drill? Your least favorite? Several of you are reporting great results after focusing on fundamentals at the range. Not getting the results you want? Slow down and figure out what's going on. Doing the wrong thing harder never helps the situation. Stop what you are doing and focus!

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Guns of the Weasel

Recently I mentioned buying the 9mm 6+1 round Kimber Micro 9 Raptor as a carry gun option. It was really an impuse buy, because I already frequently carry a 6+1 round Sig P238 in .380ACP. Obviously I cannot be held responsible for my thoughts and actions, but I suppose I must've had the random thought that 9mm is better than .380ACP because slightly bigger is always better, right? I really like the little Sig because it's highly concealable and I can generally hit what I am aiming at with it, but the Kimber was all new and shiny. Shiny = Good, and Good = Buy, right?

Kimber Update!! I really like this little gun! I had a chance this weekend to put it through its paces and it ran flawlessly with plain old 115 gr ball ammo. The ergonomics are excellent, the sight picture is very easy to acquire and there is negligible recoil. So far I am really very impressed!

So did my vague and fleeting thought have any merit? How does the .380 stack up against 9mm?

So what do all y'all think? .380 or 9mm, or both?

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WeaselBuddyGeoff

Our pal and my bestest buddy WBG joined me at the farm this weekend and brought with him a new moving target we hope to incorporate into the Move & Shoot portion of the TXMoMe festivities this year. Here is a quick look at how it works.

So what do you think? I can tell you it is much more challenging than it looks! The best I was able to manage was 3 of 5 rounds in our testing.

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The Lone Ranger!
In fact, nearly five hours of our masked pal!

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Weasel at 07:00 PM

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1 BANG!!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 25, 2024 07:00 PM (0XVad)

2 first of gub?

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at August 25, 2024 07:00 PM (v23vE)

3 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at August 25, 2024 07:00 PM (fwDg9)

4 And FIRST!!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 25, 2024 07:00 PM (0XVad)

5 Bdn

Posted by: Eromero at August 25, 2024 07:00 PM (LHPAg)

6 Howdy horde! Hope your ankle feels better soon, Weasel!

Posted by: TRex at August 25, 2024 07:01 PM (IQ6Gq)

7 Dagabit, well-played, Scoob! Good Sunday evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and a therapeutic nudge to our ailing host Weasel.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at August 25, 2024 07:01 PM (v23vE)

8 I feel you, weasel. A few years ago I rolled my ankle in an unnatural way and heard a loud "pop" as a bone in my foot gave way.

Thank you for fighting through the pain and getting us the fabulous gun thread!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 25, 2024 07:03 PM (tT6L1)

9 Scuba stuck the first. Not bad at all.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 25, 2024 07:03 PM (tT6L1)

10 I can sympathize! Sorry to hear your down, get better soon.

Posted by: Rancherbob at August 25, 2024 07:04 PM (21WHr)

11 Moving targets! Appreciate the challenge. I'm still working on keeping myself still while hitting targets that are stationary. Looking forward to giving it a go in TX though...

Posted by: TRex at August 25, 2024 07:04 PM (IQ6Gq)

12 I like the moving target idea.....because....targets...move.

Posted by: Eromero at August 25, 2024 07:04 PM (LHPAg)

13 the moving target, yeah, those are not easy. Looks easy on the screen, not so easy in real life.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 25, 2024 07:04 PM (tT6L1)

14 Sorry about the ankle, Weasel.

I hear you are supposed to wear your socks REALLY tight when doing serious organic tree farming.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at August 25, 2024 07:04 PM (HlyYF)

15 Looks pretty hard to hit as well as he did

Posted by: Skip at August 25, 2024 07:05 PM (fwDg9)

16 Ouch Weasel!!!! I feel for ya there. We will try and behave tonight. (fingers crossed).

So no range report but I picked up my new TOY!!!!!!

Got the notice from the NYPD on Wednesday and drove out to the shop on Saturday to pick up the new handgun. Pictures and a range report will follow in another two weeks or so.

One thing I immediately noticed is this gun is heavy. I weighed both my P226 and the 1911 empty and no magazines.
The P226 came in at 1lb 14.4 ounces. The 1911 came in at 2lbs 7.4 ounces.
Guess I should start doing some weight training. ;-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 25, 2024 07:05 PM (0XVad)

17 Hello, Weasel! Hope you're ankle is feeling better. That target is definitely challenging. I think I'd do well to get 2 of 5 on that setup. That looks like a full-sized silhouette too.

Posted by: Ed L at August 25, 2024 07:06 PM (yRXSd)

18 Ouch! hope it's a quick and complete recovery!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at August 25, 2024 07:06 PM (UWgy2)

19 Oh, the spawn can't wait to try that swinging target

Posted by: lin-duh at August 25, 2024 07:07 PM (PZo5T)

20 Scoot-n-shoot. Thank you to all that made this possible at the TXMOME

Posted by: Ben Had at August 25, 2024 07:08 PM (qLP0s)

21 They fired Clayton Moore bcuz reasons and tried to replace him.
Public outcry brought the real Lone Ranger back.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 25, 2024 07:08 PM (PAa7I)

22 - .380 vs 9mm?
I don't want someone slinging 22 shorts at me.

Posted by: TeeJ at August 25, 2024 07:08 PM (aCV/b)

23 If you notice, WBG cheats. WBG has that whole, "good with a shootin' iron" thing goin' on and what not.

Us ordinary mortals can't keep up with those kinds of skills.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 25, 2024 07:08 PM (tT6L1)

24 Congrats Scoob! A first on the gub thread and a new delivery.

Posted by: TRex at August 25, 2024 07:09 PM (IQ6Gq)

25 Actually I will likely just be snoozing, so please forgive me if I am not in the comments much tonight.

Ok, folks, Weasel isn't going to be here much, and if he's on the good stuff, his vision is going to be blurry, since his focusing will be off.

What does that mean for us? Watches. Big watches. Go grab your 44 or 45 mm watches and flaunt them. He won't be able to tell the difference. Heck, get that 50mm that you've been hiding at the back of the safe behind the .357 Sig, .41 AE, and .45 GAP ammo.

Reports from Bob from NSA indicate that everyone was wearing pants in today's Book Thread, meaning Perfessor Squirrel has sucessfully indoctrinated/intimidated everyone.

Don't let that happen here, the Thread that is perhaps the last outpost of freedom and nonconformity on The HQ! Let your big-watch freak-flag fly!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 25, 2024 07:09 PM (a3Q+t)

26 Hmmmm!

I have a pretty good hand tremor. Perhaps I can hit the moving target better than the stationary one? (Because the stationary one is NOT getting punched out only center mass.)

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at August 25, 2024 07:10 PM (HlyYF)

27 Scuba, congrats on the new acquisition. Have fun at the range!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 25, 2024 07:10 PM (tT6L1)

28 the moving target, yeah, those are not easy. Looks easy on the screen, not so easy in real life.

Better make sure Ben Had has plenty of humble pie ready to be served up.

And best wishes for a speedy recovery, Weasel. I had a similar injury a while back and I was in the splint for a few weeks. Being 29 can suck sometimes.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 25, 2024 07:10 PM (/y8xj)

29 24 A first on the gub thread and a new delivery.

Posted by: TRex at August 25, 2024 07:09 PM

And it was also my birthday!! Woo Hoo!!

I get the feeling I might be hanging out at the handgun range a lot more this year.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 25, 2024 07:10 PM (0XVad)

30 I like the moving target idea.....because....targets...move.

The feral cats around here would make excellent moving targets.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 25, 2024 07:11 PM (PAa7I)

31 VERY good to see the .380 vs 9 comparison.
I have both and both are in my carry rotation; .40 cal is added recently but I am in the market for a smaller frame for carry.
Also, I need to show some love for the Star 1911 Commander clone in 9-metric; lovely piece and I should have bought more when I had the chance.

Posted by: Dan Patterson at August 25, 2024 07:11 PM (53Rs7)

32 A prayer for complete and speedy recovery.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 25, 2024 07:11 PM (RIvkX)

33 A call from my LGS (local gun shop) buddy led to a visit and pending adoption of a 1969 Browning SA-22. Like waffles, the belgians are the best.

Posted by: old radar tech at August 25, 2024 07:11 PM (YhPao)

34 * a huge hug for Oddbob*

Posted by: Ben Had at August 25, 2024 07:12 PM (qLP0s)

35 24 Congrats Scoob! A first on the gub thread and a new delivery.

Posted by: TRex at August 25, 2024 07:09 PM

Scoob, time to go for a three-fer.

The Mega Millions lottery is supposed to be up to $575 million by the next drawing.

I think today is your day to buy a ticket!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at August 25, 2024 07:13 PM (HlyYF)

36 25 Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 25, 2024 07:09 PM

I must at least 3 watches at least 45mm. One might even be 50mm. Me likes big dials!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 25, 2024 07:13 PM (0XVad)

37 SanFranpsycho, you should give joining us in October more than a passing thought.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 25, 2024 07:14 PM (qLP0s)

38 well, if it comes to that I want the .75 recoilless that Jim DiGriz carried in tall of the Stainless Steel Rat books

just sayin' ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at August 25, 2024 07:14 PM (UWgy2)

39 My old dog dug a hole when she was a puppy that I conveniently stepped in and sprained my ankle in. Fast forward a week and she re-dug the hole and I re-sprained the same ankle. Good times!

Posted by: lin-duh at August 25, 2024 07:14 PM (PZo5T)

40 Scoobs, birthday too?

You are so young, you might only be 28 today!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at August 25, 2024 07:14 PM (HlyYF)

41 I must at least 3 watches at least 45mm. One might even be 50mm. Me likes big dials!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 25, 2024 07:13 PM (0XVad)
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A 50mm watch dial would fit my wrist about as well as socks would fit a rooster.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 25, 2024 07:15 PM (tT6L1)

42 I hope you heal quickly, Weasel.
Yeah, I'm a touch late.
No range report.

But I have been working on my fundamentals of point-shooting - by using my slingshot against the giant sky rats that sh** in my driveway.

Posted by: GWB at August 25, 2024 07:15 PM (CrXxA)

43 well, if it comes to that I want the .75 recoilless that Jim DiGriz carried in tall of the Stainless Steel Rat books

just sayin' ...
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at August 25, 2024 07:14 PM

You know why recoilless rifles are recoilless, right?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 25, 2024 07:16 PM (a3Q+t)

44 You know why recoilless rifles are recoilless, right?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 25, 2024 07:16 PM (a3Q+t)
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So what if the gasses venting are a bit toxic.....

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 25, 2024 07:16 PM (tT6L1)

45 35 I think today is your day to buy a ticket!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at August 25, 2024 07:13 PM

I purchased one yesterday for Tuesday's drawing. Damn, if I won I can see me acting like Oprah at the TXMoMe, You get a gun, and you get a gun and YOU get a gun!! Everyone gets a gun!!!! LOL

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 25, 2024 07:17 PM (0XVad)

46 lin duh,

I may have missed the final report. How did Spawn do at her big tournament?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at August 25, 2024 07:17 PM (HlyYF)

47 So what if the gasses venting are a bit toxic.....
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 25, 2024 07:16 PM

Not to mention their force, direction, and temperature.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 25, 2024 07:17 PM (a3Q+t)

48 someone slinging 22 shorts at me.

Met a gunsmith who escaped a North Korea POW station, his .22 short Astra Constable going undiscovered in his flight suit.
Popped the nork close up, in the ear.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 25, 2024 07:17 PM (b+suG)

49 oh, affirm, ... this was science fiction

if they ever repeal Newtonian physics ... I'll be first in line!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at August 25, 2024 07:18 PM (UWgy2)

50 Posted by: Ben Had

Right back atcha, BH. I "think" I'm going to try my luck again after dropkicked out of the MoMe by life three years in a row. The logistics might be a little tougher this time. I'll have to see if I can tag the trip onto the end of a work trip to Austin.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 25, 2024 07:18 PM (/y8xj)

51 But I have been working on my fundamentals of point-shooting - by using my slingshot against the giant sky rats that sh** in my driveway.

Posted by: GWB at August 25, 2024 07:15 PM

Have you made a dent in the sky rat numbers, or do they have a learning curve and eventually decide to sh** in someone else's driveway?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at August 25, 2024 07:19 PM (HlyYF)

52 Went to the range today w/ Sharon and Iris from the DMV MGC. I brought out my new B&T BWC-9 for its first test run after zeroing. The BWC-9 is a pretty unique forearm in that it is a folding pistol caliber carbine that folds up so that it looks like a metal block. To the untrained eye, it looks like anything but a gun. The BWC-9 is actually a chassis for a SIG P320 fire control unit, slide, and barrel assembly. You have to register the FCU as a short barrel rifle before you put it all together. The chassis comes with an Aimpoint Accro P2 red dot to help your aim. The whole setup is pretty accurate. It's possible to stack rounds on the target at 10 yards (if the shooter can hold it steady). Both Sharon and Iris liked it. Downsides are 1) the price ($2k plus for the chassis), 2) you can't carry on a loaded chamber when the gun is folded up, 3) the magazine is only partially inserted in folded position, requiring you to smack the magazine home and rack the charging handle when deploying the weapon, and 4) the charging handle isn't the most ergonomic. Still, it's an interesting and unique firearm from the top boutique firearms manufacturers in the world today.

Posted by: Ed L at August 25, 2024 07:20 PM (yRXSd)

53 Oddbob, know that however it works out you have a special place in my heart

Posted by: Ben Had at August 25, 2024 07:21 PM (qLP0s)

54 Weasel,
Best of luck with the ankle. Been there, done that, so my sympathies. Please let us know how you are doing after seeing the orthopedist. Prayers that it isn't too serious.

Posted by: JTB at August 25, 2024 07:23 PM (zudum)

55 Did a fundamentals exercise at the range - stapled four paper plates on the cardboard target at 7 yards. Four bullets, one per plate. Shoot, acquire new target, shoot, acquire new target, etc. Try to hit center of each plate. No set max time limit, but need to move things along. Challenging and humbling. Grateful crushed it.

Posted by: TRex at August 25, 2024 07:24 PM (IQ6Gq)

56 For whomever has my Permanent Record - yes, I’m late.
But excuse! I took DILIT to the 99 tonight because we were both tired of cooking.
Now, on to the Thread!

Posted by: RI Red at August 25, 2024 07:25 PM (Iq85a)

57 Pillage,

Final report wasn't stellar. Several new unheard of teams showed and made a statement. But overall her times were better. She had a good time and the team is determined to do better. We customized her pistol for her birthday and she can't wait to show it off at the MoMe.

Posted by: lin-duh at August 25, 2024 07:26 PM (PZo5T)

58 In addition to continuing to buy ammo, make sure you have sufficient magazines.

Hint: You don't.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 25, 2024 07:26 PM (a3Q+t)

59 Final report wasn't stellar. Several new unheard of teams showed and made a statement. But overall her times were better. She had a good time and the team is determined to do better. We customized her pistol for her birthday and she can't wait to show it off at the MoMe.

Posted by: lin-duh at August 25, 2024 07:26 PM

Every Personal Best counts as a "win" in my book.

Can't wait to watch her shoot at the MoMe!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at August 25, 2024 07:28 PM (HlyYF)

60 Have you made a dent in the sky rat numbers, or do they have a learning curve and eventually decide to sh** in someone else's driveway?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at August 25, 2024 07:19 PM (HlyYF)

No dent in the actual numbers. I can't take head shots yet. (And I'm not sure a clay 1/2 inch bb will kill any of them.) But They know a predator lives here.

I launched one of them the other day - hit him in the backside and he went about 5 feet in the air and tried to stay there. I was laughing too hard to take the airborne shot. I made one a gimp, limping to the other side of the road.

I do think this is only going to increase my strong-side shooting. Not going to help my two-handed, at all.

Posted by: GWB at August 25, 2024 07:28 PM (CrXxA)

61 Aw man, now it's all dusty in here. Now I have to get there just to get my overdue hug.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 25, 2024 07:28 PM (/y8xj)

62 - Yeah, sad about the ankle, sir.
Bad thing is, the older we get the slower we heal.
At 29 + 29 + well, let's just say in '55' they were making Thunderbirds.
So I has to be really, really careful.

Posted by: TeeJ at August 25, 2024 07:28 PM (aCV/b)

63 Weasel, remember you have the TX medical bag in your possession. Lots of ace bandages in there for ankle support, should you need them. Hope it's just sprained and nothing more serious.
Scoob, congrats on getting your gub. When do you present it at 1PP? Bringing it to TX?

Posted by: Grateful at August 25, 2024 07:28 PM (IQ6Gq)

64 Good evening to all and a thank you to weasel for a great thread as always. No range time, but some reloading for.45 Colt and a fair amount of dry practice with Snap Caps and my new CZ SxS hammer double.

Posted by: Coelacanth at August 25, 2024 07:28 PM (ado5X)

65 RI Red, I have your permanent record and you know what that means!

Posted by: Ben Had at August 25, 2024 07:28 PM (qLP0s)

66 58 In addition to continuing to buy ammo, make sure you have sufficient magazines.

Hint: You don't.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 25, 2024 07:26 PM

My mother has 600 lbs of National Geographics in her basement. Does that count?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at August 25, 2024 07:29 PM (HlyYF)

67 Without much forethought, I became the proud owner of a brand-new Springfield Armory SA-35 this week. I sent Weasel the (mostly) true story of how that came to be, which he may or may not choose to post sometime. At any rate, in my opinion it is one beautiful gun. Photos and videos don't really do it justice. You have to see it and hold it in your hand to appreciate what a work of art it truly is. I'm going down to the farm the end of next week and hopefully will have a full range report. If it shoots as well as it looks, I'll be one happy little cowpoke.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at August 25, 2024 07:29 PM (3rnQf)

68 57 Posted by: lin-duh at August 25, 2024 07:26 PM

A shame that she did not win, but she had fun and the team is energized. That is a win-win.

Looking forward to seeing you and the Spawn in October.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 25, 2024 07:29 PM (0XVad)

69 Thank you Ben Had for the kind invitation, we are traveling to Australia in September and October.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 25, 2024 07:29 PM (RIvkX)

70 66 My mother has 600 lbs of National Geographics in her basement. Does that count?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at August 25, 2024 07:29 PM (HlyYF)
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Good for defensive fortifications.

Posted by: TRex at August 25, 2024 07:30 PM (IQ6Gq)

71 That swinging target sure looks heinous, Weasel. If WBG only managed three hits on paper, I will be fortunate to land one.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at August 25, 2024 07:30 PM (v23vE)

72 Weasel! So sorry you are hurt! Do you have some good drugs? Did you slap a hot iron to it?

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 25, 2024 07:31 PM (iZbyp)

73 58 In addition to continuing to buy ammo, make sure you have sufficient magazines.

Hint: You don't.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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Absolutely correct.
Magazines are like ammo, they are expendables for all but safe queens. Some become more useless quicker than others so you need more of those in supply.

Even the safe queen models, load up on spare springs, bottom plates (if available), and followers if you can.

Also clean them now and again and lubing them very lightly does wonders to keep them up and running.

Posted by: whig at August 25, 2024 07:31 PM (kW+z9)

74 Posted by: TRex at August 25, 2024 07:24 PM (IQ6Gq)

Have you and Grateful tried using IPSC targets in your competition? IPSC targets offer the shooter a choice along similar lines. You can go for the 5 point areas of the target for max score, or you can choose to accept hits just outside the max score area (3 points instead of 5 if you're shooting 9mm) and complete the course of fire a bit faster. Go above a certain time threshold and you'll lose points. Toss in limited exposure of the target, and this gets challenging very quickly.

Posted by: Ed L at August 25, 2024 07:31 PM (yRXSd)

75 Scoob, congrats and happy birthday!

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 25, 2024 07:31 PM (iZbyp)

76 SanFranpsycho, put next year on your calendar. It will be our 10th anniversary celebration

Posted by: Ben Had at August 25, 2024 07:31 PM (qLP0s)

77 Get well soon, sir. I hope it is not too serious.

Posted by: MikeCLT at August 25, 2024 07:32 PM (FO8do)

78 Posted by: lin-duh at August 25, 2024 07:26 PM
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Winning is easy, where not winning builds character.

Posted by: Weasel at August 25, 2024 07:32 PM (uGpeQ)

79 63 When do you present it at 1PP? Bringing it to TX?

Posted by: Grateful at August 25, 2024 07:28 PM

Thanks Grateful. Luckily NYC has adjusted the rules of acquiring a new handgun. The trip into 1PP is no longer necessary. Everything from submitting paper work and getting the response to go pick up the new gun was less than two weeks.
And Heck Yeah I am bringing it to TX in October!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 25, 2024 07:33 PM (0XVad)

80 So no range report but I picked up my new TOY!!!!!!

Got the notice from the NYPD on Wednesday and drove out to the shop on Saturday to pick up the new handgun. Pictures and a range report will follow in another two weeks or so.

One thing I immediately noticed is this gun is heavy. I weighed both my P226 and the 1911 empty and no magazines.
The P226 came in at 1lb 14.4 ounces. The 1911 came in at 2lbs 7.4 ounces.
Guess I should start doing some weight training. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 25, 2024 07:05 PM (0XVad)

Congrats on the purchase and happy belated birthday!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at August 25, 2024 07:33 PM (v23vE)

81 Best wishes for a swift recovery Weasel.

Posted by: whig at August 25, 2024 07:34 PM (kW+z9)

82 Without much forethought, I became the proud owner of a brand-new Springfield Armory SA-35 this week. I sent Weasel the (mostly) true story of how that came to be, which he may or may not choose to post sometime. At any rate, in my opinion it is one beautiful gun. Photos and videos don't really do it justice. You have to see it and hold it in your hand to appreciate what a work of art it truly is. I'm going down to the farm the end of next week and hopefully will have a full range report. If it shoots as well as it looks, I'll be one happy little cowpoke.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen
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What a coincidence, I got one of those myself 3 weeks ago! Also with no forethought!

I put 100 rounds through it last week and it performed absolutely flawlessly. I was inconsistent, but that's not the gun's fault.

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 25, 2024 07:34 PM (iZbyp)

83 10" Combat boots are my defense against rolling an ankle. That's all I wear unless indoors around the house then it's checkered Vans.
Heel counter to 3 inch webbing to tight laces literally will not allow a my ankle to go far enough to sprain.
Corcoran Matterhorn series Desert Jump style.
American made too.

Posted by: Reforger at August 25, 2024 07:34 PM (xcIvR)

84 75 Posted by: screaming in digital at August 25, 2024 07:31 PM

Thanks S.I.D!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 25, 2024 07:35 PM (0XVad)

85 Ben Had, I do!
Weasel, remember that there are skin staplers in the MoMe Med Kit. I’m sure that would help.
Scoobs, Happy Birthday! Remember, my range is only a short four hour drive away. And, because I listen to Weasel, I have ammo.

Posted by: RI Red at August 25, 2024 07:35 PM (Iq85a)

86 My mother has 600 lbs of National Geographics in her basement. Does that count?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at August 25, 2024 07:29 PM (HlyYF)

If you can load them with 9mm you can. Or would NGs be in the rifle area, given the safari nature of the old ones?

Posted by: GWB at August 25, 2024 07:36 PM (CrXxA)

87 Weasel, can I bring you a cold drink, light your cigar, refresh your ice pack ?
No, this is not brownnosing just looking out for my good friend.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 25, 2024 07:36 PM (qLP0s)

88 SanFranpsycho, put next year on your calendar. It will be our 10th anniversary celebration
Posted by: Ben Had at August 25, 2024 07:31 PM

Does that mean brisket? A tour of the horse trailer for the newbs?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 25, 2024 07:36 PM (a3Q+t)

89 What a coincidence, I got one of those myself 3 weeks ago! Also with no forethought!

I see a trend developing here.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 25, 2024 07:37 PM (/y8xj)

90 Scoob - excellent. That was a ridiculous rule and I am happy to hear that it no longer exists.
Looking forward to seeing it in TX

Posted by: Grateful at August 25, 2024 07:37 PM (IQ6Gq)

91 80 Congrats on the purchase and happy belated birthday!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at August 25, 2024 07:33 PM

Thanks! You will see the new toy before any of the others going to the MoMe, unless CBD is going this year. We are getting together the week after next at our range.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 25, 2024 07:37 PM (0XVad)

92 Wait! Wait! Five glorious hours of my beloved hero kimo sabe and his faithful pal? A gum thread video about using a six-shooter while on horseback! No fair! I'm going to enjoy it, but, I still have a half-hour left to watch of last week's Space Men; had to take it in increasingly shorter (decreasingly long?) doses, because it's so painfully awful, but I can't just quit now. It's about to start the plot. I think.

Posted by: mindful webworker - high yough silverheels, eh whey? at August 25, 2024 07:37 PM (45S2z)

93 I see a trend developing here.
Posted by: Oddbob
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I sent pics but Van Owen's story sounds like it will be better than mine!

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 25, 2024 07:37 PM (iZbyp)

94 The gun thread seems to focus on high end guns, collectibles, and big guns. I don't see a lot of conversation about modest priced and small guns.
Let's face it, a small gun is easier to conceal and not as much of a burden to carry daily, but then you're limited to micro 9s, .380 or smaller.
It's interesting that today's topic touches on that.

Anyone have experience with the lcp max or bodyguard 2.0?

Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 25, 2024 07:38 PM (FCbAQ)

95 74 Have you and Grateful tried using IPSC targets in your competition?

Posted by: Ed L at August 25, 2024 07:31 PM (yRXSd)
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Been DIY so far. We've been doing our own scoring which allows us to set our own standards for what counts as acceptable.

Posted by: TRex at August 25, 2024 07:38 PM (IQ6Gq)

96 What a coincidence, I got one of those myself 3 weeks ago! Also with no forethought!
Posted by: screaming in digital at August 25, 2024 07:34 PM (iZbyp)

Actually, it was your comments about it that got me craving one of my own after denying the urge for almost two years! I owe you, SiD!

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at August 25, 2024 07:38 PM (3rnQf)

97 82 Without much forethought, I became the proud owner of a brand-new Springfield Armory SA-35 this week. I sent Weasel the (mostly) true story of how that came to be, which he may or may not choose to post sometime. At any rate, in my opinion it is one beautiful gun. Photos and videos don't really do it justice. You have to see it and hold it in your hand to appreciate what a work of art it truly is. I'm going down to the farm the end of next week and hopefully will have a full range report. If it shoots as well as it looks, I'll be one happy little cowpoke.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen
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What a coincidence, I got one of those myself 3 weeks ago! Also with no forethought!

I put 100 rounds through it last week and it performed absolutely flawlessly. I was inconsistent, but that's not the gun's fault.
Posted by: screaming in digital
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Glad both of you like the Springfield Armory version of the Browning HP.

I have one of the licensed FN Argentinian High Powers (FM-90) imported mid nineties--the SA version is nicer as it has all the small upgrades to the original design making it nicer overall.
BHP was the original Hi Cap Wonder Nine.

Posted by: whig at August 25, 2024 07:39 PM (kW+z9)

98 Gub! Sounds like maybe a high ankle sprain, Weasel. I've had one and it was a bitch. Hope all goes well. Take good care.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 25, 2024 07:39 PM (mH6SG)

99 In addition to continuing to buy ammo, make sure you have sufficient magazines.

Hint: You don't.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 25, 2024 07:26 PM (a3Q+t)

I prefer to have at least ten magazines for any firearm I'm relying on for serious work. "Too many" isn't enough.

Posted by: Ed L at August 25, 2024 07:39 PM (yRXSd)

100 100!

Posted by: TRex at August 25, 2024 07:39 PM (IQ6Gq)

101 Posted by: Ben Had at August 25, 2024 07:36 PM (qLP0s)
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You're the best, BH!

Posted by: Weasel at August 25, 2024 07:39 PM (uGpeQ)

102 Winning is easy, where not winning builds character.
************
Then I am the queen of character!

Posted by: Grateful at August 25, 2024 07:39 PM (IQ6Gq)

103 I rolled my ankle once when I was a sophomore in h.s. playing basketball. Looked like an extra ankle about 2" down.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at August 25, 2024 07:41 PM (w6EFb)

104 85 Posted by: RI Red at August 25, 2024 07:35 PM

Thanks RI Red, actually you are a little over 5 hours away and I have to go through enemy territory ;-)
Currently I have 200 rounds of .45. Will be increasing that over the coming months.

But I will think about it, watching the number of vacation days I have left.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 25, 2024 07:41 PM (0XVad)

105 85 Weasel, remember that there are skin staplers in the MoMe Med Kit. I’m sure that would help.

Posted by: RI Red at August 25, 2024 07:35 PM (Iq85a)
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Wonder how the skin stapler would do against the new moving target.

Posted by: TRex at August 25, 2024 07:41 PM (IQ6Gq)

106 Happy Birthday, Scoob!
And what a present!

Posted by: GWB at August 25, 2024 07:42 PM (CrXxA)

107 Anyone have experience with the lcp max or bodyguard 2.0?
Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 25, 2024 07:38 PM

Not sure what the current status of the LCP Max is, but as of a few months ago, they seemed to be having some teething problems. The LCP 2 seems pretty robust, and an older LCP Custom is a good choice, if you can find one.

The LCPs are DA, and require more of a trigger 'roll' than a 'pull' (compared to striker-fired) to be accurate.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 25, 2024 07:42 PM (a3Q+t)

108 Scoob, HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

Posted by: Ben Had at August 25, 2024 07:43 PM (qLP0s)

109 Range Report, incoming.
Last Aspirin Shoot I did was three months ago.
Grabbed my Ruger Precision Rimfire this am and competed.
Good news: placed third, as usual.
Bad news: only seven shooters, so middle of the pack.
But a fun, gorgeous late summer day in NNH. Light breeze, sunny. Shooting tiny bullets a long way.

Posted by: RI Red at August 25, 2024 07:43 PM (Iq85a)

110 Anyone have experience with the lcp max or bodyguard 2.0?

Not with the Max specifically but we have a first gen LCP that was the wife's EDC for a few years until I convinced her to upsize to a S&W 442. It's not exactly a fun gun to shoot but it never gave a bit of problem and ate everything we put in it.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 25, 2024 07:44 PM (/y8xj)

111 Anyone have experience with the lcp max or bodyguard 2.0?

Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 25, 2024 07:38 PM

I do, I have both and have shot and carried them both and I am looking to sell my Ruger lcp max. The bodyguard 2.0 is what all of the compact .380s should have been 10-15 years ago.

If Glock didn't have this fixation on supersized thick a$$ plastic magazines they could have come up with something other than the G42. Matter of fact I am hoping they are redesigning the G42 into something closer to the bodyguard 2.0.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 25, 2024 07:44 PM (QNSds)

112 Why yes Weasel. I went to the range today. Only three of us but lots of shooting time and for some unknown reason the range was almost empty so we were able to start almost immediately. I brought t he two Glocks and the Kimber today. Had some jams with the G48 last time and Ed suggested cleaning the mags which I did and had no issues. Got to shoot Ed's new purchase and the red dot made hitting the target easy especially being able to anchor the gun in my shoulder.
When I pulled out the Kimber, the battery for the red dot was dead so I shot using the iron sight. Had no problem hitting the target at 10 yards, farther than usual. A nice surprise.
Followed by a great steak at the Texas Roadhouse.
Range Sundays are the best!

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 25, 2024 07:45 PM (t/2Uw)

113 You gotta rub some dirt on those sprains and walk it off.
Maybe slap a hot iron on it.

Posted by: Reforger at August 25, 2024 07:45 PM (xcIvR)

114 And yes, I have range reports. Friday was my dream. I was just on. Won the competition, in fact won every round. If I could only always shoot that well...
Today: not as good as Friday, but was able to address problems and do better. This trigger fundamental is a challenge, as is not flinching. But it's easier to recognize and address.
New game today was fun...need to replace the old competition with this!

Posted by: Grateful at August 25, 2024 07:45 PM (IQ6Gq)

115 FYI, I have about 100 IPSC targets I am bringing down to TX

Just need those metal thingamajigs to attach to the hay bales.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 25, 2024 07:45 PM (0XVad)

116 Let's face it, a small gun is easier to conceal and not as much of a burden to carry daily, but then you're limited to micro 9s, .380 or smaller.
It's interesting that today's topic touches on that.

Anyone have experience with the lcp max or bodyguard 2.0?
Posted by: OneEyedJack

LCP Max is reliable enough but not really pleasant to fire much. Stay away from the Bodyguard as S&W, to my regret, today is uneven in manufacturing quality.

If you want a reliable and flat single stack--Look for a Springfield XDS-9mm. Made for several years up to and including the most recent version that allows red dot mounting (XDS Mod 2).

Magazines are around, the pistol weighs about 22 oz unloaded and a bit more loaded (26 oz or so). No manual safety but it does have a grip safety. Comes in different barrel lengths from 3.3 to 4.0 inches.

Posted by: whig at August 25, 2024 07:46 PM (kW+z9)

117
Thanks for the good wishes, everyone! It's pretty swollen and I can't see the ankle bones. The swelling is even going up my calf. Hope I didn't really mess something up. I always wear boots while I am there and had just switched to trail shoes for the drive home. Perfect timing!

Posted by: Weasel at August 25, 2024 07:46 PM (uGpeQ)

118 Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 25, 2024 07:38 PM (FCbAQ)

One of the more recent threads featured the She Equips Herself gal talking about her experience w/ the S&W Bodyguard 2.0. Can't remember which one, though. I don't remember if she's featured the LCP in any of her videos. I'd be surprised if she didn't - she talks a lot of concealable handguns in her videos.

Posted by: Ed L at August 25, 2024 07:46 PM (yRXSd)

119 Funny how nobody ever volunteers to be shot with an under-powered .380 ACP.

Posted by: butch at August 25, 2024 07:46 PM (cHvOo)

120 Hi All - Sorry to hear about your injury Weasel - wishing you a quick recovery!

I have little experience with scopes and am looking to get one for my S&W 5.56. I like the Riton 3 Primal 3-18x50. It is a lower end / mid price point $500-$700. It is their cross between hunting and long range shooting. I want to get it set up for a Project Appleseed known distance training. Any opinions on this scope or recommendations?

Posted by: Tom Antram at August 25, 2024 07:46 PM (QYnea)

121 Happy B-Day, Scoob!

Posted by: Ed L at August 25, 2024 07:47 PM (yRXSd)

122 I have one of the licensed FN Argentinian High Powers (FM-90) imported mid nineties--the SA version is nicer as it has all the small upgrades to the original design making it nicer overall.
BHP was the original Hi Cap Wonder Nine.
Posted by: whig at August 25, 2024 07:39 PM (kW+z9)
My dad had a bring-back FN High Power when I was a kid; I only fired it a few times, but I remember it was a good shooter. The new SA-35 with no magazine disconnect and good sights holds out a lot of promise. And yes, the following day I bought additional magazines for it. Springfield really went the cheap route by only including a single mag with the gun.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at August 25, 2024 07:47 PM (3rnQf)

123 Weasel, a bag of frozen vegetables (esp. peas) can be more efficacious that a bag of ice cubes.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 25, 2024 07:47 PM (a3Q+t)

124 Anyway, range report: Yesterday was the club 500 meter silhouette shoot. Five targets at 200, 300, 400 and 500 meters for a total of 20 targets.

1 shot per, target must be knocked off the rail. But wait, there's more! The wind was blowing hard enough to move the cross hairs off and on the target, depending on the hold. In fact, to hit the 500 meter sighting disk, I was holding about 2MOA to the right off the target and caught the left edge of the target. The wind was strong enough to move a 178 grain bullet about 6MOA to the left. Made life interesting.

On my way to the match, I had a brief moment of panic when I realized I'd left my wind meter and ballistics app at home. But, I had my low tech log book with me with correct elevation listed. Having the proper elevation meant I only had to figure the wind which I was mostly able to do.

I managed to do surprisingly well, scoring 15 out of 20 and beating out a couple of our more experienced shooters.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 25, 2024 07:48 PM (tT6L1)

125 Grateful, I sure want you and nurse in my foxhole.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 25, 2024 07:48 PM (qLP0s)

126 123 Weasel, a bag of frozen vegetables (esp. peas) can be more efficacious that a bag of ice cubes.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 25, 2024 07:47 PM (a3Q+t

No one puts peas in their drink.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 25, 2024 07:48 PM (RUMEY)

127 123 Weasel, a bag of frozen vegetables (esp. peas) can be more efficacious that a bag of ice cubes.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 25, 2024 07:47 PM (a3Q+t)
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What size watch does a bag of frozen veggies require?

Posted by: TRex at August 25, 2024 07:49 PM (IQ6Gq)

128 I didn't go to the range this week (which means I need to dry fire this evening), but I did use my CC fanny pack for the first time. I bought it hoping it would be more comfortable than the Liberty band to carry the P365 for running and hiking.

This pack is from the "Lena* Collection" and I got a Velcro backed holster from CrossBreed to go in it. The pack itself won't hold much more than your gub, ID, phone, maybe a chapstick and a little folding money. It can be worn at the waist or cross-body; I like it at the waist for running/hiking but otherwise would probably go cross-body. It needs to be snug, so you can draw from the holster if needed (and to prevent too much bouncing while running). But is fairly comfortable and doesn't restrict my movements. I'm used to having a lumbar pack or just a phone pouch around my waist when hiking/running so aside from the still unfamiliar feeling of carrying, that wasn't an issue.

My one complaint is the clasp is way too close to where you adjust the strap, so it's easy to undo it when you don't want to. Adjust straps first, then holster the gub to avoid a lot of fiddling around and potential drops!

*Miculek not Dunham

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 25, 2024 07:49 PM (iZbyp)

129 - I'll just drop this before I skedaddle.
If it gets so bad you need all those freedom seeds, the store shelves are gonna get real bare, real quick.
3 mo minimum for each person. And water filtration/purification supplies too.
Be safe.

Posted by: TeeJ at August 25, 2024 07:49 PM (aCV/b)

130 FWIW, for me, the sweet spot for 9mm to be pleasant enough to practice with is about 24-25 oz. or more. A 40 or 45 feel in a subcompact feel better in recoil over 30 oz.

Posted by: whig at August 25, 2024 07:49 PM (kW+z9)

131 Don/t forget to have an ace wrap on that ankle. RICE the C is compression.

Posted by: jimmymcnulty at August 25, 2024 07:50 PM (6Qw2E)

132 Actually, it was your comments about it that got me craving one of my own after denying the urge for almost two years! I owe you, SiD!
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen
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Awesome! Maybe we can shoot them together one day!

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 25, 2024 07:50 PM (iZbyp)

133 Similar to Weasel, I also am injured. I kicked the couch leg with my toe.

Still kinda sore.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 25, 2024 07:50 PM (RUMEY)

134 Thank you Ben Had, GWB and Ed L for the birthday wishes. :-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 25, 2024 07:51 PM (0XVad)

135 Springfield really went the cheap route by only including a single mag with the gun.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen
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Mine came with 4 mags. What's up with that?

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 25, 2024 07:51 PM (iZbyp)

136 Scoobs, I think you meant 2,000 rounds, not 200, right? How can news reports say that you had a small armory?

Posted by: RI Red at August 25, 2024 07:51 PM (Iq85a)

137 whig ,I do hope that life is trending that you will be able to join us.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 25, 2024 07:51 PM (qLP0s)

138 The LCPs are DA, and require more of a trigger 'roll' than a 'pull' (compared to striker-fired) to be accurate.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 25, 2024 07:42 PM (a3Q+t)

do, I have both and have shot and carried them both and I am looking to sell my Ruger lcp max. The bodyguard 2.0 is what all of the compact .380s should have been 10-15 years ago.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 25, 2024 07:44 PM (QNSds)

Thanks for the feedback. I too have an original lcp, complete with 12lb trigger pull and no sights, which I rectified by adding Ct Lazer.
There's been a lot of press about the bodyguard 2.0 which I attribute to new product hype like there was for the lcp max.
Good to hear that an actual shooter and moron can attest to it.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 25, 2024 07:52 PM (FCbAQ)

139 Grateful, I sure want you and nurse in my foxhole.
Posted by: Ben Had
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Nobody wants me shooting if the SHTF. But I'll load mags for you all.

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 25, 2024 07:52 PM (iZbyp)

140 Good evening, Ben! Hope things are well with you!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 25, 2024 07:52 PM (tT6L1)

141 My dad had a bring-back FN High Power when I was a kid; I only fired it a few times, but I remember it was a good shooter. The new SA-35 with no magazine disconnect and good sights holds out a lot of promise. And yes, the following day I bought additional magazines for it. Springfield really went the cheap route by only including a single mag with the gun.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen
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If regular BHP mags fit, MecGar are the ones you want. Their nickel plated ones are a bit nicer for an additional buck or two. And you don't need the ridiculous mouse trap Browning BHP mag if there is no mag disconnect.

Almost always decent prices at CDNN Sports on mags in general.

Posted by: whig at August 25, 2024 07:52 PM (kW+z9)

142 Any suggestions as to the right caliber for an aging HP laptop?

Two hours labor from my I.T. guru, and *mumblety* in part$.

At about a week later, it's Good to Go. Won't ever be "good as new", as "new" was 2009.

Swinging Targets? Betcha some of our USN, USCG and Fleet Marine types, would weigh in on that?

50 gal. drum about 300 yds off the fantail, with the M-2 Ma Deuce? The drum bobbing on the waves, and the ship the same, albeit more slowly.

A few good hits would make that drum, seasick, indeed!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 25, 2024 07:52 PM (kQgoX)

143 109 Posted by: RI Red at August 25, 2024 07:43 PM

Sounds like a fun day Red. Better than a really good day at work!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 25, 2024 07:52 PM (0XVad)

144 Ah my friend Ben Had, no one has ever wanted me in their fox hole. Thank you!

Posted by: Grateful at August 25, 2024 07:53 PM (IQ6Gq)

145 Probably past this but Weasel did you ice it?
I never doo it enough and pay for it long after

Posted by: Skip at August 25, 2024 07:53 PM (fwDg9)

146 Jim, the right caliber for a laptop?

I think the only way to answer that question is with appropriate ballistic testing.

Though, I think a 12 gauge with a modified choke at about 8 yards would probably work quite well.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 25, 2024 07:54 PM (tT6L1)

147 137 whig ,I do hope that life is trending that you will be able to join us.
Posted by: Ben Had
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Trying to get spousal unit pinned down about going. If I go alone, it will be a multi day trip to and from by necessity. Think it is about an 8 hr trip from my mother's to Corsicana so that would probably be my waystation.

Posted by: whig at August 25, 2024 07:54 PM (kW+z9)

148 I managed to do surprisingly well, scoring 15 out of 20 and beating out a couple of our more experienced shooters.
Posted by: blake
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Nicely done, blake!

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 25, 2024 07:55 PM (iZbyp)

149 9mm or .380 ?

Why not carry both?

I carry my Bodyguard in my front pocket and my Glock 19 IWB appendix.

I do this not just for back up but also for when carrying the Glock not practical and I leave it secured in the car. Like doctor's appointments for example.

Posted by: polynikes at August 25, 2024 07:55 PM (9ikst)

150 SID, of course you are in our fox hole...no question about it....

Posted by: Grateful at August 25, 2024 07:56 PM (IQ6Gq)

151 Sig supplied two 8 round magazines. I will purchase at least 2 more. Also want to get a holster for it. Not for conceal carry, just for carrying it around the house or maybe the TXMoMe.

Now because it is a pricey piece I am thinking a leather one so it does not scratch the finish for now. Eventually I will not worry as much about how it looks but how it performs.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 25, 2024 07:57 PM (0XVad)

152 whig, anything I can do to help facilitate this I will.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 25, 2024 07:57 PM (qLP0s)

153 RI Red...the aspirin shoot sounds a hoot.

Good job!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 25, 2024 07:57 PM (tT6L1)

154 Springfield really went the cheap route by only including a single mag with the gun.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen
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Mine came with 4 mags. What's up with that?
Posted by: screaming in digital at August 25, 2024 07:51 PM (iZbyp)

AIM Surplus has 15-round Browning High Power magazines from MEC-GAR for $25 each. The nickel plated 15-round magazines are $28 each. Those are decent prices compared to contemporary pistol magazines which run $40-50 each.

Posted by: Ed L at August 25, 2024 07:57 PM (yRXSd)

155 conversation about modest priced and small guns.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 25, 2024 07:38 PM (FCbAQ)

I think we've talked about them quite a bit, but it's been awhile. (Hey, did I mention my .357 derringer?) I think what most folks here have found is that price is a partial indicator of quality (and market forces). While my EAA Windicator (

Also, I'm the one with the reports on my Charles Daly short-shotty. It's a take on the Mossberg Shockwave, but cheaper. It's been back to the factory once, and it's still broken. It's in a box in a closet (not with the rest of the operable guns) waiting for the day I can sell it cheap to a gunsmith who could put in time to make it work well. I'm saving my pennies to buy a Mossberg (or Remington) now.

I like inexpensive. But price does mean something in firearms.

Posted by: GWB at August 25, 2024 07:58 PM (CrXxA)

156 152 whig, anything I can do to help facilitate this I will.
Posted by: Ben Had
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Thx. Been wistful in years past about missing it.

Posted by: whig at August 25, 2024 07:58 PM (kW+z9)

157 Posted by: Skip at August 25, 2024 07:53 PM (fwDg9)
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Yep, ice on and off. Really helps! Thanks

Posted by: Weasel at August 25, 2024 07:58 PM (uGpeQ)

158 Hey guys!

Howdy weasel, get better soon! Hope you don't have to wear a boot. But if you do, it needs pink sparkle Barbie stickers! I'll send you some.

Posted by: nurse ratched, certified weirdo at August 25, 2024 07:58 PM (jc8En)

159 Nobody wants me shooting if the SHTF. But I'll load mags for you all.
Posted by: screaming in digital at August 25, 2024 07:52 PM (iZbyp)

You can be the one to slap hot iron to it if any gets hit.

Posted by: polynikes at August 25, 2024 07:58 PM (9ikst)

160 Did I mention that my confidence was so happy after Friday that I signed us up for CC class in September? Moving right along....
Of course, the moving target in TX will humble me again....

Posted by: Grateful at August 25, 2024 07:58 PM (IQ6Gq)

161 Nice, blake. This was your .30-.06?

Posted by: RI Red at August 25, 2024 07:58 PM (Iq85a)

162 Awesome! Maybe we can shoot them together one day!
Posted by: screaming in digital at August 25, 2024 07:50 PM (iZbyp)

I'd like that! Real Life won't allow me to attend the TXMoMe again this year, but one of these days . . .

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at August 25, 2024 07:59 PM (3rnQf)

163 .380 makes for a good back up gun.
You may have to shoot weak handed or while injured and the lesser recoil makes doing so easier.

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at August 25, 2024 08:00 PM (elaR+)

164 Sorry to hear that Weasel. Here's to a full and fast recovery.

You are only supposed to roll the log, not your ankle!

Posted by: haffhowershower at August 25, 2024 08:00 PM (NMT5x)

165 150 SID, of course you are in our fox hole...no question about it....

Posted by: Grateful at August 25, 2024 07:56 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Is there vino available in said fox hole?

Posted by: TRex at August 25, 2024 08:00 PM (IQ6Gq)

166 Posted by: nurse ratched, certified weirdo at August 25, 2024 07:58 PM (jc8En)
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That's just the boot statement I'd like to make! Thanks!

Posted by: Weasel at August 25, 2024 08:00 PM (uGpeQ)

167 I started and stopped with a 1911. It IS fun to follow the discussions about caliber, though.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at August 25, 2024 08:01 PM (hKoQL)

168 Not for anything, but SID was invited...

Posted by: Grateful at August 25, 2024 08:01 PM (IQ6Gq)

169 “ Let's face it, a small gun is easier to conceal and not as much of a burden to carry daily, but then you're limited to micro 9s, .380 or smaller.”

The Colt Defender is barely 6.7 inches and it’s .45 ACP. The P365 is less than an inch longer and higher. Notwithstanding the .45 vs 9mm argument, it can be easily concealed. The challenge is you have to practice putting rounds on target constantly, and stay with .45 to ensure consistency.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 25, 2024 08:01 PM (bxCZE)

170 SID, of course you are in our fox hole...no question about it....
Posted by: Grateful
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Aw, thanks. I gotta get better though.

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 25, 2024 08:01 PM (iZbyp)

171 Dot torture drill!

Posted by: Larryw208 at August 25, 2024 08:01 PM (yyCU4)

172 TRex, absolutely! In vino veritas.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 25, 2024 08:01 PM (qLP0s)

173 AIM Surplus has 15-round Browning High Power magazines from MEC-GAR for $25 each. The nickel plated 15-round magazines are $28 each. Those are decent prices compared to contemporary pistol magazines which run $40-50 each.
Posted by: Ed L
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I buy from AIM quite a bit. Good folks and they do carry when available some of the old milsurp rounds like 6x55 Swede, 303 British, etc. in Prvi Partisan.

AIM does sell out a lot too so grab onto that 15 round MecGar for 28 bucks. About 2 bucks cheaper than CDNN per mag on those.

Posted by: whig at August 25, 2024 08:01 PM (kW+z9)

174 RI Red, yes.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 25, 2024 08:01 PM (tT6L1)

175 Posted by: Grateful at August 25, 2024 07:58 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Good job!

Posted by: Weasel at August 25, 2024 08:02 PM (uGpeQ)

176 Mine came with 4 mags. What's up with that?
Posted by: screaming in digital at August 25, 2024 07:51 PM (iZbyp)
You got a real deal, then! Every place I have seen has the SA ship with only one mag.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at August 25, 2024 08:03 PM (3rnQf)

177 167 I started and stopped with a 1911. It IS fun to follow the discussions about caliber, though.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA
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There is an old saying. Beware of the man with one gun. He probably knows how to use it well.

Posted by: whig at August 25, 2024 08:03 PM (kW+z9)

178 Blake, I remember working up loads for my Savage Axis and writing down, “Hates anything under168 g.!” The heavier the better, I found.

Posted by: RI Red at August 25, 2024 08:04 PM (Iq85a)

179 I like inexpensive. But price does mean something in firearms.
Posted by: GWB at August 25, 2024 07:58 PM (CrXxA)

I hear you.
But much talk of Colt gold cup, FN, Browning hi power, h&k, Kimber

Not much of Taurus, ruger, s&w etc.

Foreign made point metal stuff even I'm not interested in, and I'm notoriously "frugal", but not stupid.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 25, 2024 08:06 PM (FCbAQ)

180 If regular BHP mags fit, MecGar are the ones you want. Their nickel plated ones are a bit nicer for an additional buck or two. And you don't need the ridiculous mouse trap Browning BHP mag if there is no mag disconnect.
Posted by: whig at August 25, 2024 07:52 PM (kW+z9)

Believe it or not, Midway USA had just about the best price on MecGars - 27 bucks

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at August 25, 2024 08:06 PM (3rnQf)

181 I like my micro 9 too, but mine does not say custom shop.

About my only complaints are: magazines don't want to go in without pressing release, slide safety is a little stiff/hard to flip, and my magazine like the one in your picture fell out.

I think for the mag inserstion, I need to taper the underside of the catch.

For the mag not latching, I saw on the intertubes that the plastic piece on the bottom of the mag sits up too high and doesn't allow it to catch. Need to either shim it down or sand some off the top.

Posted by: haffhowershower at August 25, 2024 08:06 PM (NMT5x)

182 There is an old saying. Beware of the man with one gun. He probably knows how to use it well.
Posted by: whig at August 25, 2024 08:03 PM (kW+z9)

Reminded me of the line from Quigley Down Under when Quigley dispatch the three of them with a six shooter.

' I said I didn't have much use for it not that I didn't know how to use it'

Posted by: polynikes at August 25, 2024 08:06 PM (9ikst)

183 I had to wear a boot for a week after screwing up my ankle. Fortunately it was summertime because I had to go with flip-flops for more than a week after that. Couldn't get a shoe on the offended leg. I think it took well over 4 weeks for me to start getting back to normal. Hopefully, that won't be your deal, Weasel.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 25, 2024 08:07 PM (mH6SG)

184 I am calling it a night. Pretty tired out from picking up the new toy and celebrating my birthday.

Weasel, thank you as always and I hope it is nothing serious with the ankle and you are up and about soon.

Thank you everyone for the birthday wishes. Looking forward to seeing a bunch of you folks in October!!!

Have a great week everyone!!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 25, 2024 08:07 PM (0XVad)

185 Tisas has come out with a 1911 in 9mm, double stack for around $700-$800.
It's also optics ready.
I think that will be my next firearm.

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at August 25, 2024 08:07 PM (elaR+)

186 Believe it or not, Midway USA had just about the best price on MecGars - 27 bucks
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen
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If Midway is offering free shipping, that is a deal. Their shipping got high for awhile and since I was not shooting, I was not reloading which is primarily what I bought from Midway. Components.

Posted by: whig at August 25, 2024 08:07 PM (kW+z9)

187 I'd like that! Real Life won't allow me to attend the TXMoMe again this year, but one of these days . . .
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen
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Some of us are in the preliminary stages of plotting a MoMe in SC, possibly in April.

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 25, 2024 08:08 PM (iZbyp)

188 If Ben Had is there, there is probably vino. Red of course.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 25, 2024 08:08 PM (t/2Uw)

189 94 The gun thread seems to focus on high end guns, collectibles, and big guns. I don't see a lot of conversation about modest priced and small guns.
Let's face it, a small gun is easier to conceal and not as much of a burden to carry daily, but then you're limited to micro 9s, .380 or smaller.
It's interesting that today's topic touches on that.

Anyone have experience with the lcp max or bodyguard 2.0?
Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 25, 2024 07:38 PM (FCbAQ)f

My LCP Max made it about 150 rds a few weeks ago before the trigger went dead. Should probably be cleaning it instead of reading the gun thread so I can send it back to Ruger, but here I am.

Posted by: Arch Stanton at August 25, 2024 08:09 PM (Y3woX)

190 Sharon, can't wait to share a glass with you.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 25, 2024 08:09 PM (qLP0s)

191 A friend stepped over a string line in the middle of a flat gravel parking lot. The string was set about a foot off the ground while laying out a construction site. He not only rolled his ankle, he shattered it. He got to spend a couple months rolling around on one of those little knee scooters.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at August 25, 2024 08:10 PM (6cZhR)

192 My Kimber 911 is a 9 mm and I've been pretty satisfied with it and ammo is cheaper so there's that. It came with a red dot so was on the expensive side but can be had more reasonably without. I just like the weight and feel of the gun.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 25, 2024 08:11 PM (t/2Uw)

193 No NIB firearm should come with only one mag. IMO.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 25, 2024 08:11 PM (mH6SG)

194 Don't let that happen here, the Thread that is perhaps the last outpost of freedom and nonconformity on The HQ! Let your big-watch freak-flag fly!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 25, 2024 07:09 PM (a3Q+t)

I've got a 50 caliber watch, and it tells time through schools!

Posted by: haffhowershower at August 25, 2024 08:12 PM (NMT5x)

195 He got to spend a couple months rolling around on one of those little knee scooters.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at August 25, 2024 08:10 PM (6cZhR)
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I had to have my other ankle fixed a few years back and finally agreed to use the little scooter around the house. Had to get rid of it because I kept running over my good foot.

Posted by: Weasel at August 25, 2024 08:13 PM (uGpeQ)

196 RI Red, Weaselsan Gunsei has put me in the knowledge of the way of the cartridge.

I'm shooting up the last of my 178 grain stuff so I can switch to Hornady's 174 grain ELD-VT. The accuracy of the round in my rifle is phenomenal when I'm pushing the round to 2880 fps.

I ran the numbers through my ballistic app and it showed 5 MOA less elevation than the 178 @ 1,000 yards and it proved out. I was surprised a slightly lighter bullet was that much better than the 178 Hornady ELD-M.

I'd love to push something heavier but the speed of the 174 grain stuff makes up for it not having the BC of heavier bullets.

Of course, I say that now and may very well be singing a different tune in 6 months.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 25, 2024 08:14 PM (tT6L1)

197 Had to get rid of it because I kept running over my good foot.

lol

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 25, 2024 08:15 PM (mH6SG)

198 have a good one, Scuba! Happy Birthday!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 25, 2024 08:15 PM (tT6L1)

199 Let's talk about return fire. Just because they are shooting at you doesn't mean shoot back. But

Posted by: Ben Had at August 25, 2024 08:15 PM (qLP0s)

200 But much talk of Colt gold cup, FN, Browning hi power, h&k, Kimber

Not much of Taurus, ruger, s&w etc.

Foreign made point metal stuff even I'm not interested in, and I'm notoriously "frugal", but not stupid.
Posted by: OneEyedJack
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I have three rules for serious social occasion tools---reliable with my chosen self defense ammo, plentiful and cheap mags as for a serious carry piece, 6 is a bare minimum, ten is preferable, and widespread parts availability for things like recoil springs, mag springs, pins, etc.

I've shot Taurus revolvers, their version of a 1911, a couple of their plastic fantastics from yesteryear, but do not have one of them. Reason is parts availability.

So my revolvers are Smith and Wessons or Rugers. I prefer Springfield Armory for its plastic fantastics as they fit my hand better than Glocks, and I prefer Smith and Wesson Third Generation in DAO for current carry.

Their trigger is similar to Smith and Wesson tuned double action revolvers and they prestage the trigger on the 5946/4046/4586 like Glock did but still are drop safe.

A simpler manual of arms is usually better unless you practice a helluva lot on just manipulation of controls.

Posted by: whig at August 25, 2024 08:15 PM (kW+z9)

201 200!

Posted by: TRex at August 25, 2024 08:15 PM (IQ6Gq)

202 No NIB firearm should come with only one mag. IMO.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 25, 2024 08:11 PM (mH6SG)

One magazine is the norm, especially with rifles. Up until the mid-2010s, I never saw any NIB firearm come w/ more than one magazine. I think SIG and Glock were the first to start shipping two, then three magazines w/ each of their pistols.

Posted by: Ed L at August 25, 2024 08:15 PM (yRXSd)

203 Weasel, I am really sympathetic having been limping for months. Hope it turns out to be easy to repair and recovery short. Isn't soaking in Epsom salts supposed to bring down swelling?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 25, 2024 08:16 PM (t/2Uw)

204 201 200!

Posted by: TRex at August 25, 2024 08:15 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Don't know what I did wrong. I had stance, grip, sight line and trigger lined up. and then BLAM! Missed by one... Back to the lab.

Posted by: TRex at August 25, 2024 08:17 PM (IQ6Gq)

205 Some of us are in the preliminary stages of plotting a MoMe in SC, possibly in April.
Posted by: screaming in digital at August 25, 2024 08:08 PM (iZbyp)

That might be doable. Would it be dog-friendly?

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at August 25, 2024 08:18 PM (3rnQf)

206 Sharon, wrap your affected area in newspaper soaked in apple cider vinegar

Posted by: Ben Had at August 25, 2024 08:18 PM (qLP0s)

207 I have a .380 and 9mm Kimber, really like them both.

Posted by: Grandpa bullet point at August 25, 2024 08:18 PM (s9TOl)

208 One magazine is the norm, especially with rifles. Up until the mid-2010s, I never saw any NIB firearm come w/ more than one magazine.

Hmm. I must be misremembering. I do that a lot, these days. I will respectfully defer to your observation, Ed.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 25, 2024 08:20 PM (mH6SG)

209 If Weasel has to get a peg leg, I want to be the first to use: WeaselPeg.

j/k

Twisted legs/ankles/knees always look a hell of a lot worse than they are. Hope this is easily mended.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 25, 2024 08:20 PM (y31cs)

210 screaming in digital. Fantastic. Let me know what I can do to help.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 25, 2024 08:21 PM (qLP0s)

211 202 No NIB firearm should come with only one mag. IMO.
Posted by: Notorious BFD

Mags are one of the profit centers for selling price competitive firearms. That is why the price of additional mags which is an imperative should always be figured into the price of the firearm if it is for serious work.

You train heavily in competition including things like Tactical reloads, etc., then you need at least ten magazines because dropped mags on hard surfaces don't always do well. Range only trips without the hard stuff, you can get by with six or so.

One of the advantages of popular service type firearms is that mags are more plentiful along with repair parts for the long haul.

Posted by: whig at August 25, 2024 08:22 PM (kW+z9)

212 My first BHP was Belgian mfg around 1970, it was a fine gun but had to downsize to a S&W snubby for reasons. My second BHP is a 1949 model and lives in the safe. I have to say the SA35, after near 1000 rounds is the best, I think because I replaced the extracter and safety before I ever shot it. It eats everything I put in it and I carry it a great deal.

Posted by: Eromero at August 25, 2024 08:22 PM (LHPAg)

213 If Weasel has to get a peg leg, I want to be the first to use: WeaselPeg.

I'm sure we will all be willing to pitch in for a bandana and an eye patch.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 25, 2024 08:22 PM (mH6SG)

214 That might be doable. Would it be dog-friendly?
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen
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I don't know yet, but one of the ideas rattling around in my head (along with all the rocks) is a picnic shelter at a state park or similar. I may be overruled!

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 25, 2024 08:22 PM (iZbyp)

215 Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 25, 2024 08:16 PM (t/2Uw)
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My parents certainly thought so! Funny, I thought about Eason salts while I was getting xrayed.

Posted by: Weasel at August 25, 2024 08:23 PM (uGpeQ)

216 screaming in digital. Fantastic. Let me know what I can do to help.
****
Ditto. Seriously.

Posted by: Grateful at August 25, 2024 08:23 PM (IQ6Gq)

217 213 If Weasel has to get a peg leg, I want to be the first to use: WeaselPeg.

I'm sure we will all be willing to pitch in for a bandana and an eye patch.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 25, 2024 08:22 PM (mH6SG)

WeaselCutlass. WeaselFlintlock.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 25, 2024 08:23 PM (y31cs)

218 >>> 187 I'd like that! Real Life won't allow me to attend the TXMoMe again this year, but one of these days . . .
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen
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Some of us are in the preliminary stages of plotting a MoMe in SC, possibly in April.
Posted by: screaming in digital at August 25, 2024 08:08 PM (iZbyp)

DO EET!

Seriously, April sounds like a *great* time of year for SC.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 25, 2024 08:24 PM (FnneF)

219 I have to say the SA35, after near 1000 rounds is the best, I think because I replaced the extracter and safety before I ever shot it. It eats everything I put in it and I carry it a great deal.
Posted by: Eromero
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High praise coming from you.

Posted by: whig at August 25, 2024 08:24 PM (kW+z9)

220 Weasel. In re: swelling.
I seem to recall that a bag of frozen peas molded well against certain body parts.
Males who have had the vas ectomized would agree.

Posted by: RI Red at August 25, 2024 08:24 PM (Iq85a)

221 Picnic shelter at a State Park works for me....

Posted by: Grateful at August 25, 2024 08:24 PM (IQ6Gq)

222 To be fair, Weasel could probably pull off the Blackbeard look if he dyed the beard. Get some lit fuse in there...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 25, 2024 08:25 PM (y31cs)

223 Howdy!
I went to the range with a box of boxes off shells and diagnosed my inconsistency as a failure of the sight alignment fundamental.
Jumping on youtube to find some tips, the point a lot of them made was to mount the shotgun to the cheek before the shoulder.
All the content creators making that point were either shotgun school trainers many states away from me making an ad or stunt shooters who have probably done it so much their muscle memory couldn't screw it up.
Are there any tips ou there for getting this right?

Posted by: Nato at August 25, 2024 08:25 PM (ciuRb)

224 I've now bought 3 new firearms myself and each one has come with a different # of mags. RI 1911 had one (really shitty) mag - the gub itself is awesome, the P365 had 2 10 round mags (but it's easier to shoot with a 12 round or larger), and the SA-35 had 4, which I now feel *very* smug about, but will still follow the advice to pick up more!

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 25, 2024 08:25 PM (iZbyp)

225 No one puts peas in their drink.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 25, 2024 07:48 PM

CBD hasn't weighed in yet.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 25, 2024 08:26 PM (a3Q+t)

226 Samurai Pirate?

Posted by: fd at August 25, 2024 08:26 PM (vFG9F)

227 Posted by: RI Red at August 25, 2024 08:24 PM (Iq85a)
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I have a frozen gel pack thing in a C shape that wraps entirely around the ankle, so I've been using that. Frozen peas work too!

Posted by: Weasel at August 25, 2024 08:27 PM (uGpeQ)

228 Hi! Catching up on the thread!

My range report: not much but I was able to clear a jam on my own. Shooting was on the paper.

Weasel: hope your ankle heals quickly! Did you forget to mention the bear that was chasing you? Gotta up your story man!

Scuba - Happy Birthday and congrats on new toy!

Hi! to all!

SiD - can't wait for SC road trip!

BH: TX!

Posted by: Iris at August 25, 2024 08:27 PM (n3DL0)

229 SiD, thank you very much for the compliment.

Sad to say, though, I'm missing on of the 1,000 yard matches next month. Something about taking my wife on a vacation or some such.

I'm already going through withdrawals.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 25, 2024 08:27 PM (tT6L1)

230 I have to say the SA35, after near 1000 rounds is the best, I think because I replaced the extracter and safety before I ever shot it. It eats everything I put in it and I carry it a great deal.
Posted by: Eromero at August 25, 2024 08:22 PM (LHPAg)
It's my understanding that Springfield fixed the extractor problem after about serial numbers in the twelve thousand range. Mine is in the twenty-four thousand range, so I'm hoping it won't be a problem.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at August 25, 2024 08:28 PM (3rnQf)

231 Blake, do you use an M1 for these matches? Iron sights?

Posted by: rhomboid at August 25, 2024 08:28 PM (8fUId)

232 Weasel, don't laugh, but the newspaper Apple cider vinegar thing works the best.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 25, 2024 08:29 PM (qLP0s)

233 Weasel, wishing you a speedy recovery.

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at August 25, 2024 08:29 PM (elaR+)

234 One of the advantages of popular service type firearms is that mags are more plentiful along with repair parts for the long haul.
Posted by: whig at August 25, 2024 08:22 PM (kW+z9)

I picked up a box of 50 Baretta 92 mags from a surplus store friend for $300 about 15 years ago. Still haven't touched about 30 of them.
One had some issues easily fixed with some feed lip cleanup but other than that all so far function just fine. They look like crap but I'm not a cosmetic type guy.

Posted by: Reforger at August 25, 2024 08:29 PM (xcIvR)

235 Posted by: Iris at August 25, 2024 08:27 PM (n3DL0)
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HA! Great point!

Posted by: Weasel at August 25, 2024 08:29 PM (uGpeQ)

236 WeaselCutlass. WeaselFlintlock.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 25, 2024 08:23 PM

Dude has a katana. After bluebell completes the cutting tests, WeaselKatana will rule the waves.

He'll just have to do some kata on the quarterdeck, and the other ship will strike their colors.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 25, 2024 08:29 PM (a3Q+t)

237 Iris darlin. Can't wait.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 25, 2024 08:30 PM (qLP0s)

238 I will again make my pitch for Made in Turkey clones of the 1911 and BHP. Get them while you can, because you never know when international events might cut off the supply.
One thing I discovered about the Girsan copy of the BHP, the models with the traditional curved triggers have the magazine disconnect.
"No problem!" I hear you say. "The interweb is full of videos on how to remove it! It's easy!"
Nope, the standard Girsan uses the "Mark 3" trigger design, which is much more difficult to remove.
The cure for this is to buy the Girsan "Match" models, which don't have a mag disconnect. They can be quickly identified by their straight triggers.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at August 25, 2024 08:30 PM (6cZhR)

239 Sorry to hear of the ankle Weasel. If it is serious, remember to save the bone for the dog.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 25, 2024 08:31 PM (uCk2H)

240 He'll just have to do some kata on the quarterdeck, and the other ship will strike their colors.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 25, 2024 08:29 PM (a3Q+t)

It’s the kata on the poopdeck I’d worry about.

Posted by: RI Red at August 25, 2024 08:32 PM (Iq85a)

241 With Texas so close, we're hoping we can get a group together there to help plan for SC. Think April would be delightful. I know little about South Carolina but can volunteer time because, you know, Retired. (-:

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 25, 2024 08:32 PM (t/2Uw)

242 screaming in digital. Fantastic. Let me know what I can do to help.
****
Ditto. Seriously.
Posted by: Grateful
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Absolutely. We'll confab in TX. I can do a bit of research before then.

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 25, 2024 08:33 PM (iZbyp)

243 Thanks so much for all the good wishes everyone. It's just about pill time so I think I'll go prop up in bed with FSJ. Will try and check back later.

Thanks again and hope to see you all next Sunday, assuming I don't die from a sprained ankle!

Posted by: Weasel at August 25, 2024 08:33 PM (uGpeQ)

244 Blake, do you use an M1 for these matches? Iron sights?
Posted by: rhomboid at August 25, 2024 08:28 PM (8fUId)
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I'm using a Savage Axis II Precision 30.06 topped with a Vortex Viper 5-25x50 FFP scope and UTG bipod.

I wish I could shoot the Garand but it's ill suited to the task.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 25, 2024 08:33 PM (tT6L1)

245 Enjoying this Flor de Oliva cigar tonight. Mild, even burn, lots of smoke. Been working on it for 45 minutes now and still have about a quarter left.I knew there was a reason I bought 20 or 25 of these.

Posted by: Arch Stanton at August 25, 2024 08:33 PM (Y3woX)

246 Does anyone remember counting the number of shots the Lone Ranger took during the opening credits? I always came up with seven, which was amusing, since he had a six-shooter. Of course, he was packing two…

Posted by: IntrovertedElephocentricHypochondriac at August 25, 2024 08:34 PM (tVy6t)

247 {{{Iris}}}

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 25, 2024 08:34 PM (iZbyp)

248 If Weasel has to get a peg leg, I want to be the first to use: WeaselPeg.

I'm sure we will all be willing to pitch in for a bandana and an eye patch.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 25, 2024 08:22 PM (mH6SG)

What? No parrot perched on Weasel's shoulder?

Posted by: Ed L at August 25, 2024 08:34 PM (yRXSd)

249 He'll just have to do some kata on the quarterdeck, and the other ship will strike their colors.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 25, 2024 08:29 PM (a3Q+t)

But that means his WeaselPowderMonkeys wouldn't get much exercise.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 25, 2024 08:35 PM (y31cs)

250 Weasel -
Fell down stairs moving a mattress, snapped Achilles tendon.
No insurance, no treatment, just Dr ice and Dr alcohol. Changed the way I walk. Leg atrophy from knee down.Still have hip pain 14 years later.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 25, 2024 08:35 PM (/EMWh)

251 Thanks, Weasel. Take a break!
And does WW know that I am in your Will?

Posted by: RI Red at August 25, 2024 08:35 PM (Iq85a)

252 I picked up a box of 50 Baretta 92 mags from a surplus store friend for $300 about 15 years ago. Still haven't touched about 30 of them.
One had some issues easily fixed with some feed lip cleanup but other than that all so far function just fine. They look like crap but I'm not a cosmetic type guy.
Posted by: Reforger
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There is a new Beretta 92 Clone out from Rock Island Armory--the Melik. List is three Franklins.

Posted by: whig at August 25, 2024 08:36 PM (kW+z9)

253 What? No parrot perched on Weasel's shoulder?

Yeah, I forgot about that. A parrot it is, matey!

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 25, 2024 08:36 PM (mH6SG)

254 What? No parrot perched on Weasel's shoulder?

Mine pooped when he was up there earlier.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 25, 2024 08:37 PM (/EMWh)

255 192 My Kimber 911 is a 9 mm and I've been pretty satisfied with it and ammo is cheaper so there's that. It came with a red dot so was on the expensive side but can be had more reasonably without. I just like the weight and feel of the gun.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 25, 2024 08:11 PM (t/2Uw)

Hi Sharon. Speaking of 9mm being cheaper, I caught a PSA sale of Norma 108gr hollow points that came out to about 35 cents per round. If you get free shipping, I think that's reasonable. Some people prefer a heavier bullet for self defense, but like was said tonight, no one would volunteer to get hit with one (I like that saying!).

My Kimber micro9 had no problem with these nor 115gr.

Posted by: haffhowershower at August 25, 2024 08:38 PM (NMT5x)

256 All right y'all going to do some penny drills, and practice with the fanny pack holster as well. BRB.

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 25, 2024 08:40 PM (iZbyp)

257 There is a new Beretta 92 Clone out from Rock Island Armory--the Melik. List is three Franklins.
Posted by: whig at August 25, 2024 08:36 PM (kW+z9)

Hmm... That I will check out.

Posted by: Reforger at August 25, 2024 08:40 PM (xcIvR)

258 Good job, SiD!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 25, 2024 08:43 PM (tT6L1)

259 Arch Stanton, Flor de Oliva (all wrapper types) is usually a very good value. Very inexpensive for good long-filler sticks. Just finishing an Alec & Bradley Kintsugi on the back porch on a perfect summer day.

Assume Weasel is out of luck at the moment since he’s probably inside and thus no burning. Hopefully he’s diagnosed and set up tomorrow and able to burn again.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 25, 2024 08:43 PM (8fUId)

260 Good night folks. Tuckered out and been fighting a cold this week. So out to get some sleep.

Posted by: whig at August 25, 2024 08:44 PM (kW+z9)

261 Everyone, have a great week!

Later!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 25, 2024 08:45 PM (tT6L1)

262 Here for the long haul, should try and stay up until 1am at minimum.

Posted by: Skip at August 25, 2024 08:46 PM (fwDg9)

263 Now I'm wondering if i can fit a third pistol in my travel case? How many days til Texas?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 25, 2024 08:46 PM (t/2Uw)

264 I picked up a box of 50 Baretta 92 mags from a surplus store friend for $300 about 15 years ago. Still haven't touched about 30 of them.
One had some issues easily fixed with some feed lip cleanup but other than that all so far function just fine. They look like crap but I'm not a cosmetic type guy.
Posted by: Reforger at August 25, 2024 08:29 PM (xcIvR)

M9 magazines made by Check-Mate (should say so right on the magazine body along w/ month and year of manufacture) had problems in Iraq and Afghanistan because the phosphate finish on the first production run (2004-5) allowed the "moon dust" commonly found in both places to accumulate on the body of the magazine. This allowed dirt and dust to enter the pistol's mechanism and jam both the magazine and pistol. Many of these magazines were pulled from service as soon as replacement magazines fixing the problem were available. This won't be a problem 90+ % of the time stateside. But if you have these magazines, you might want to think twice before using them in some serious tactical training course.

Posted by: Ed L at August 25, 2024 08:47 PM (yRXSd)

265 My boy stopped by yesterday with two cigars. He said I could pick, but he did say which one he preferred (he had already tried one of them and really wanted the one he hadn't had yet) lol, so of course I took the one he didn't try yet.

Kidding! So the one I was stuck with was sickly sweet. I have no idea what brand and I didn't care. It was worse than the old Swisher Sweets from my mis-spent yute. It was a 'fancy' one from a cigar shop too. Yuck!

Posted by: haffhowershower at August 25, 2024 08:47 PM (NMT5x)

266 Took the boys (18 and 16) for some range time yesterday. Had a nice 1/2 inch group at 100 yds with my AR - cheap ammo, so could've been a favorable distribution, but I built this for precision, so encouraged. Then switched to my scoped 10/22 at 25 yds - after .223, the 10/22 sounded supressed by comparison. I need to practice with the AR a bit at 200 yds - there's a precision rifle group at the range, does informal matches with scaled targets at 200 yds, would like to join up.

Posted by: MD_Mike at August 25, 2024 08:47 PM (BouEL)

267 Looking forward to seeing so many of you in October.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 25, 2024 08:48 PM (qLP0s)

268 But, OneEyedJack, you want to talk price and compactness....
I mentioned last week I finally got to handle one of the Beretta tip-up barrel Tomcats. I really like. This one was in .32, so a deep concealment gun. But it was $600+ at the FLGS. But I'm not sure all the ones online for less are actually the same gun. Different mag release locations, different look to the frame. I'd really like one, but would prefer the best price I can get, but... I'm just not sure.

Posted by: GWB at August 25, 2024 08:49 PM (CrXxA)

269 {{{Ben Had}}}
It's the highlight of the year. Can't wait.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 25, 2024 08:50 PM (t/2Uw)

270 Part one- While we're bragging on magazine scores here's my Gander story. When Gander was going toes up they kept marking down firearms every 3 to 5 days, and when they got closer to closing out firearms totally you had to check daily. I was looking at the HK P30S-V3S at around $1K, then it was sliding downward. I told the guy I'd be back tomorrow and he said it'll be gone. When I walked in at the opening bell, I couldn't see it.

Posted by: Eromero at August 25, 2024 08:50 PM (LHPAg)

271 ' I said I didn't have much use for it not that I didn't know how to use it'
Posted by: polynikes at August 25, 2024 08:06 PM (9ikst)

A fabulous movie with some great actors/actresses. And, yes, that line is an all-time favorite.

Posted by: GWB at August 25, 2024 08:51 PM (CrXxA)

272 Part two- So the HK was behind some other stuff and it was marked $600. It came with 3 mags....and with proof of purchase you got 4 mags....FREE. Like finding money in the road.

Posted by: Eromero at August 25, 2024 08:53 PM (LHPAg)

273 And it's not his first rodeo.

Posted by: haffhowershower at August 25, 2024 08:53 PM (NMT5x)

274 Eromero-this is a cliffhanger man. Part one had me pretty down, but part two things are looking up.

Posted by: haffhowershower at August 25, 2024 08:54 PM (NMT5x)

275 Picnic shelter at a state park is how we do it in the PNW. People bring food and drinks and coolers, croquet, lawn darts, books, lawn chairs....

It doesn't have to be fancy. Just a get together.

It's lovely.

Posted by: nurse ratched, certified weirdo at August 25, 2024 08:56 PM (taCqV)

276 I mentioned last week I finally got to handle one of the Beretta tip-up barrel Tomcats. I really like. This one was in .32, so a deep concealment gun. But it was $600+ at the FLGS. But I'm not sure all the ones online for less are actually the same gun. Different mag release locations, different look to the frame. I'd really like one, but would prefer the best price I can get, but... I'm just not sure.
Posted by: GWB at August 25, 2024 08:49 PM (CrXxA)

Another alternative would be the Beretta 81 (.32 ACP). I picked up an Italian police surplus model at the last gun show for $575. Good shooter, mild recoil, and has a 12 round magazine. Both Sharon and Iris agree that it's quite manageable even for new shooters. Even though it's out of production, Beretta USA still has spare magazines for sale for $50 each. Not cheap, but OEM magazines for an out of production gun from the original manufacturer is pretty rare.

Posted by: Ed L at August 25, 2024 08:56 PM (yRXSd)

277 A fabulous movie with some great actors/actresses. And, yes, that line is an all-time favorite.

Probably my 2nd favorite movie gun line. First is from "Stand By Me":

Tough guy Ace (Kiefer Sutherland): Are you gonna shoot all of us?

Wimpy kid (Wil Wheaton): No, Ace. Just you.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 25, 2024 08:56 PM (/y8xj)

278 And you don't have to have 100 people. 10
Is fine. I think our first one in Yakima had around 35. Including Oregon Muse. He was a highlight.

Posted by: nurse ratched, certified weirdo at August 25, 2024 08:57 PM (taCqV)

279 nurse, absolutely. Any group of Morons together is good thing.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 25, 2024 08:59 PM (qLP0s)

280 Some of us are in the preliminary stages of plotting a MoMe in SC, possibly in April.
Posted by: screaming in digital at August 25, 2024 08:08 PM (iZbyp)

I can be induced to bring some fun toys to SC...

Posted by: Ed L at August 25, 2024 09:00 PM (yRXSd)

281 Weasel, don't laugh, but the newspaper Apple cider vinegar thing works the best.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 25, 2024 08:29 PM (qLP0s)

Yeah, but where do you get newspapers nowadays?

Posted by: GWB at August 25, 2024 09:00 PM (CrXxA)

282 Doctor say you going to die, Kemosabe.

Posted by: just the punchline at August 25, 2024 09:02 PM (c39uV)

283 With Texas so close, we're hoping we can get a group together there to help plan for SC. Think April would be delightful. I know little about South Carolina but can volunteer time because, you know, Retired. (-:
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 25, 2024 08:32 PM (t/2Uw)

I am new to the state and could help. There are a few Greenvull people here.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at August 25, 2024 09:02 PM (4Med0)

284 a picnic shelter at a state park or similar.
Posted by: screaming in digital at August 25, 2024 08:22 PM (iZbyp)

So long as the state park allows carry. I hate leaving my gun behind for certain other locations. (Though I love the location itself!)

Posted by: GWB at August 25, 2024 09:04 PM (CrXxA)

285 What? No parrot perched on Weasel's shoulder?
Posted by: Ed L at August 25, 2024 08:34 PM (yRXSd)

Only if we can nail it to the perch.

Posted by: GWB at August 25, 2024 09:05 PM (CrXxA)

286 Weasel,
You have that super sharp awesomely cool new samurai sword. Amputation is always an option! Use a blowtorch to cauterize.

See! I can be helpful!

Posted by: nurse ratched, certified weirdo at August 25, 2024 09:05 PM (taCqV)

287
Posted by: mindful webworker - high yough silverheels, eh whey? at August 25, 2024 07:37 PM (45S2z)

eh whey! ha!

MWW - You must have a serious case of stick-to-it-ness. Anymore, if I'm watching a movie and it sucks, I will drop it and most likely not even remember its name.

But that tracks with our throw away society. Streaming does not help the situation; a lot of movies today are disposable.

Posted by: haffhowershower at August 25, 2024 09:06 PM (NMT5x)

288 284 a picnic shelter at a state park or similar.
Posted by: screaming in digital at August 25, 2024 08:22 PM (iZbyp)

So long as the state park allows carry. I hate leaving my gun behind for certain other locations. (Though I love the location itself!)
Posted by: GWB at August 25, 2024 09:04 PM (CrXxA)
The lakes on Savannah River are Corps Of Engineers so they may be snotty about gubses.

Posted by: Eromero at August 25, 2024 09:07 PM (LHPAg)

289 Weasel,
You have that super sharp awesomely cool new samurai sword. Amputation is always an option! Use a blowtorch to cauterize.

See! I can be helpful!
Posted by: nurse ratched

Nurse is pre-med - she knows what the hell she is talking about!!

Posted by: Tonypete at August 25, 2024 09:07 PM (WXNFJ)

290 Practice with your rifle on a 10-inch target at 100-yards offhand.

Now do it at night with someone screaming for help on one side, someone firing a 12-gauge next to you, someone else bumping into you randomly, in the rain, with flashing lights in your line of sight.

Posted by: Dan Patterson at August 25, 2024 09:08 PM (53Rs7)

291 290 Practice with your rifle on a 10-inch target at 100-yards offhand.

Now do it at night with someone screaming for help on one side, someone firing a 12-gauge next to you, someone else bumping into you randomly, in the rain, with flashing lights in your line of sight.
Posted by: Dan Patterson at August 25, 2024 09:08 PM (53Rs7)
Dan has seen the future.

Posted by: Eromero at August 25, 2024 09:09 PM (LHPAg)

292 Watched a video couple hours ago on arrow wounds, he mentioned arrows are no where as fatality as bullets. They really need to hit vital points or it's a long time to bleed and stop the person. .

Posted by: Skip at August 25, 2024 09:11 PM (fwDg9)

293 Well, got current on the Gun Thread, now I have to hit the shower. I was under a Suburban all afternoon, chipping dried mud off the frame, and everywhere else, too. Must have knocked off 50 pounds of pink mud, and now I am wearing much of that. If it's a warm day tomorrow, I will put on shorts, and roll around under the truck on the ground, washing off the residue with the pressure washer.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 25, 2024 09:11 PM (zPc+3)

294 Got's to be careful out there:

Handguns in Tennessee State Parks
Beginning July 1, 2021, Tennessee law generally allows people who are at least 21 to lawfully possess a handgun, openly or concealed. (But), no one may carry a handgun in a Tennessee State park unless they have a concealed handgun permit or enhanced handgun permit or meet another exception to Tennessee Code Annotated 39-17-1311(a).

But, TVA - land and waters? That's a big NO.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 25, 2024 09:12 PM (WXNFJ)

295 293 Well, got current on the Gun Thread, now I have to hit the shower. I was under a Suburban all afternoon, chipping dried mud off the frame, and everywhere else, too. Must have knocked off 50 pounds of pink mud, and now I am wearing much of that. If it's a warm day tomorrow, I will put on shorts, and roll around under the truck on the ground, washing off the residue with the pressure washer.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 25, 2024 09:11 PM (zPc+3)
That mud may be what's holding the frame together.

Posted by: Eromero at August 25, 2024 09:13 PM (LHPAg)

296 Now do it at night with ...
Posted by: Dan Patterson at August 25, 2024 09:08 PM (53Rs7)

One thing I suggest - as long as your range allows it - is doing some running in place and push-ups before shooting your carry weapon. It will put the fundamentals into perspective, in terms of overcoming adrenaline and fatigue. It's not as much as Dan is talking about, but it's something to simulate all of the things that make you "revert to training" in real life.

Posted by: GWB at August 25, 2024 09:13 PM (CrXxA)

297 Trick is to remain calm when everyone and everything around you is chaos.

For some people time slows down. For others it gets worse. You don’t know who you are naturally until you’re in that situation.

Posted by: polynikes at August 25, 2024 09:14 PM (B1dzx)

298 Is part three coming?

Is this choose your own adventure?

It was behind some stuff, but it was already bought by someone else?

It was behind some stuff, but someone else reached out and snatched it away?

It was $600 but you only had $599?

LOL I *think* I know how it turned out, I'm just checking. At least, I hope you scored it. That would have been a sweet deal.

BTW-someone in another thread mentioned Cliffhanger 2 is being made.

Posted by: haffhowershower at August 25, 2024 09:15 PM (NMT5x)

299 269 {{{Ben Had}}}
It's the highlight of the year. Can't wait.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 25, 2024 08:50 PM (t/2Uw)

What Sharon said.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at August 25, 2024 09:19 PM (v23vE)

300 300!

Posted by: TRex at August 25, 2024 09:19 PM (IQ6Gq)

301 But if you have these magazines, you might want to think twice before using them in some serious tactical training course.
Posted by: Ed L at August 25, 2024 08:47 PM (yRXSd)

Yep. That's what they are. Check Mate Ind. Date on them is 09/02. Assy # 9346413.
I'll pull a couple apart and see if they got any afgahnidust in them.
Not much coating left on the outside.

Posted by: Reforger at August 25, 2024 09:19 PM (xcIvR)

302 Part three- No, I didn't have $600 on me but I did have a card that builds travel miles for Mrs. E. The 4 free mags came to my box free shipping in about 3 weeks.

Posted by: Eromero at August 25, 2024 09:20 PM (LHPAg)

303 Posted by: GWB at August 25, 2024 09:13 PM (CrXxA)

If you have the time and $$ to do it, force on force training using simunitions or paintballs is about as close as you can get to the real deal, especially for CQB scenarios. If nothing else, you won't forget the smack and welts of getting hit by simunitions and paintballs. Ouch.

Posted by: Ed L at August 25, 2024 09:21 PM (yRXSd)

304 Rally time, y'all. The Food Thread had 361 comments. We can't let an early-morning Zoom call from registered user "Ewok" add to Weasel's misery!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at August 25, 2024 09:23 PM (v23vE)

305 https://tinyurl.com/2uj2s6t6
20 Tweets from Bad Blue

Posted by: Skip at August 25, 2024 09:26 PM (fwDg9)

306 Yep. That's what they are. Check Mate Ind. Date on them is 09/02. Assy # 9346413.
I'll pull a couple apart and see if they got any afgahnidust in them.
Not much coating left on the outside.
Posted by: Reforger at August 25, 2024 09:19 PM (xcIvR)

I've seen decommissioned M9 magazines from Check-Mate w/ those manufacture dates on them for sale at gun shows. I won't buy them for that reason. Mec-Gar will cost more, but I don't want to buy the Army's old problems.

Posted by: Ed L at August 25, 2024 09:27 PM (yRXSd)

307 I'll pull a couple apart and see if they got any afgahnidust in them.
Not much coating left on the outside.
Posted by: Reforger at August 25, 2024 09:19 PM (xcIvR)
response to
Posted by: Ed L at August 25, 2024 08:47 PM (yRXSd)

Well shit. I need to pull them all apart. Got my own little bug dust pile going now.
Probably should have done it years ago.
They are hella nasty.
Especially where they start to narrow down.

Posted by: Reforger at August 25, 2024 09:28 PM (xcIvR)

308 Just lurking about. Carry on.

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at August 25, 2024 09:29 PM (sAmhv)

309 So, I have a Transthoracic Echocardiogram in the morning. Do I have to fast for this?

Posted by: Eromero at August 25, 2024 09:30 PM (LHPAg)

310 My nephew's Jericho 9mm came with only one magazine as well; I've bought one 'sample' replacement magazine for him for it [a CZ type IIRC] that fitted and ejects alright. I haven't bothered getting any more until 1] seeing if a change of government means he can keep and use it; and 2] conditional upon #1, testing it at the range to see if it is compatible.

The 1969 69C High Power only came with one magazine as well. [That auto ejects.] I've bought three more less expensive ones that are manual eject [Cdn $40 IIRC] and one auto eject that was much more expensive, Cdn $65 IIRC.

Posted by: andycanuck (c39uV) at August 25, 2024 09:30 PM (c39uV)

311 Posted by: Reforger at August 25, 2024 09:28 PM (xcIvR)

GI magazines are almost always ridden hard and put away wet. The supply system considers them expendable and they're treated as such.

Posted by: Ed L at August 25, 2024 09:31 PM (yRXSd)

312 Part three- No, I didn't have $600 on me but I did have a card that builds travel miles for Mrs. E. The 4 free mags came to my box free shipping in about 3 weeks.
Posted by: Eromero at August 25, 2024 09:20 PM (LHPAg)

Nice score!

Posted by: Ed L at August 25, 2024 09:33 PM (yRXSd)

313 Time for good evening wishes. Thanks horde and best wishes for a Weasel recovery. Grateful and I are detailed to undisclosed locations for the next two weekends, so the gub thread will have to carry on without us. See you on the other side.

Posted by: TRex at August 25, 2024 09:36 PM (IQ6Gq)

314 Posted by: TRex at August 25, 2024 09:36 PM (IQ6Gq)

Have fun wherever you go!

Posted by: Ed L at August 25, 2024 09:38 PM (yRXSd)

315 GI magazines are almost always ridden hard and put away wet. The supply system considers them expendable and they're treated as such.
Posted by: Ed L at August 25, 2024 09:31 PM (yRXSd)

I've still got 7 AR mags from my time in. They wouldn't take them when I got back from Somalia. My unit was still there when I ETSed.

Posted by: Reforger at August 25, 2024 09:40 PM (xcIvR)

316 One should get additional magazines asap to any weapon.
I even have 2 speed loaders for my Colt revolver

Posted by: Skip at August 25, 2024 09:43 PM (fwDg9)

317 Posted by: Eromero at August 25, 2024 09:20 PM (LHPAg)

You mentioned McCormick 1911 mags to me.

My stupidly expensive Wilson mags suck donkey cock in my carry piece.

My McCormicks function flawlessly!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 25, 2024 09:45 PM (d9fT1)

318 I got nothing, but I'll throw in a comment to help bump up the count, so Weasel doesn't have to limp into the Big Guy's office in the morning for an ass chewing.

Posted by: BillyD at August 25, 2024 09:45 PM (Yt3ED)

319 GI magazines are almost always ridden hard and put away wet. The supply system considers them expendable and they're treated as such.
Posted by: Ed L at August 25, 2024 09:31 PM (yRXSd)

There are some unissued USGI 1911 magazines floating around on the market that are no-kidding Government rejects (which I think makes them not actually GI) so proceed with caution. Checkmate made some good GI 1911 magazines, which were sold by the CMP, but they were snapped up years ago.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at August 25, 2024 09:46 PM (6cZhR)

320 My "throw-away" truck guns are .380's. Well, two of them are. The M&P not so much. One is in a bugout bag and the other is in my wife's car. The bugout bag is really a portable fireproof lockbox. Full of valuables, documents and stuff that might be necessary in the burning times.

And a small, pocket .380 and about 200 rounds.

I think it's almost a necessity these days to have disposable weapons. Those you don't cry over losing. Or at least cry less.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 25, 2024 09:47 PM (Q4IgG)

321 That mud may be what's holding the frame together.
Posted by: Eromero at August 25, 2024 09:13 PM (LHPAg)

No, this is a rust-free rig, bought in Utah. Its first life was as crew truck for a mine in Nevada. That may be the source of the mud. Other than the mud, it's super clean under there.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 25, 2024 09:48 PM (iciH7)

322 320 My "throw-away" truck guns are .380's. Well, two of them are. The M&P not so much. One is in a bugout bag and the other is in my wife's car. The bugout bag is really a portable fireproof lockbox. Full of valuables, documents and stuff that might be necessary in the burning times.

And a small, pocket .380 and about 200 rounds.

I think it's almost a necessity these days to have disposable weapons. Those you don't cry over losing. Or at least cry less.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 25, 2024 09:47 PM (Q4IgG)

Bought from a non-FFL, with no paper trail to you would be a bonus.

Posted by: BillyD at August 25, 2024 09:49 PM (Yt3ED)

323 Inexpensive options:

I really like my Taylor & Sons 1911A1 (RIA clone) of the base GI model. PSA has them under $300 periodically. It helps me keep the ergonomics and muscle memory for the 1911 platform without putting the wear on things at the bottom of the lake.

We have a pair of Taurus G2Cs that have eaten everything we have fed them over the last 4 years. The were also $400 or less.

The LCP2 is from back when they were $250 (several years ago).

The recent Kimber R7 (Mako) was also $400 with 6 mags but we had to drive several hours since that wasn't available locally. It's a nice shooter.

And BTW.....the PSA AR kits are super easy to assemble and quite reasonable for under $400.

Posted by: chappyman66 at August 25, 2024 09:50 PM (L3byd)

324 Aaah! Nice and clean now, and there are smokies on the grill, and a beer in the coozy. (soon to be in me)

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 25, 2024 09:52 PM (iciH7)

325 Thanks for hosting, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at August 25, 2024 09:53 PM (yRXSd)

326 I'm back. As usual spent more time hunting down the snap cap that took a weird bounce/roll...

Taking some notes for the possible SC MoMe based on the comments I saw. Please feel free to email me, although I have no idea yet what might be happening, when or where, it does help to know who is interested and what ideas you have.

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 25, 2024 09:54 PM (iZbyp)

327 Thanks for hosting, Weasel!
Posted by: Ed L at August 25, 2024 09:53 PM (yRXSd)

Second that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 25, 2024 09:54 PM (iciH7)

328 AOP, I thought of you today.

A while back my air compressor was making a weird noise and wasn't compressing air either.

It's a Craftsman oilless. Long story short, last year I needed mid/high capacity in a hurry so found this on Craigslist. Other than it's normal noise, it worked.

Pulled the plastic shroud off and discovered that the connecting rod had broken in half! And whatever bearing or whatever that should have been on the flywheel end is nowwhere to be found. Just a bolt holding on to some small piece of metal.

I don't think it's worth the repair. If it was just the piston seal, then maybe...

Posted by: haffhowershower at August 25, 2024 09:54 PM (NMT5x)

329 I have one of the much-maligned Remington R-51 9mm pistols. Mine is from the second generation, the ones that actually functioned.
I'm glad I got a half dozen spare magazines for it as soon as I bought it, as there won't be anymore made for it.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at August 25, 2024 09:55 PM (6cZhR)

330 G'nite, everybody. Another great gub.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 25, 2024 09:55 PM (mH6SG)

331 Always thankful for Weasel hosting, and for the thread that I fully read every week.

Posted by: chappyman66 at August 25, 2024 09:55 PM (L3byd)

332 Got to the range last weekend. Just 9’s…a Glock 17, Springfield SA-35 and a CZ.
I’m really liking that SA-35…nice to finally have a version of Mr. Browning’s last masterpiece finally made here in the States.

Posted by: The Osprey at August 25, 2024 09:55 PM (+2I7p)

333 I've still got 7 AR mags from my time in. They wouldn't take them when I got back from Somalia. My unit was still there when I ETSed.
Posted by: Reforger at August 25, 2024 09:40 PM (xcIvR)

I had the same experience when I came back from OIF and OEF. Nobody wanted the GI M4 magazines back. So they're sitting in my GI footlocker w/ a bunch of other stuff.

Posted by: Ed L at August 25, 2024 09:57 PM (yRXSd)

334 Watched a video couple hours ago on arrow wounds, he mentioned arrows are no where as fatality as bullets. They really need to hit vital points or it's a long time to bleed and stop the person. .

Posted by: Skip at August 25, 2024 09:11 PM (fwDg9)

People who aren't bugfuck nuts are pretty averse to getting extra holes in them. That's why no one is volunteering to stand in front of as little as .22 short. But the psychological damage of seeing an arrow in you might instill panic in a person who is normally calm.

Takes a lot to remain calm in the face of actual peril.

At any rate, that's why I think almost any caliber of firearm can buy time or defuse a deadly situation in almost all cases. If the goal is self defense, a bad guy running away after being shot by a .380 is as good as a one shot kill with a .44 mag.
If the goal is punishment...

Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 25, 2024 09:58 PM (FCbAQ)

335 333 I've still got 7 AR mags from my time in. They wouldn't take them when I got back from Somalia. My unit was still there when I ETSed.
Posted by: Reforger at August 25, 2024 09:40 PM (xcIvR)

I had the same experience when I came back from OIF and OEF. Nobody wanted the GI M4 magazines back. So they're sitting in my GI footlocker w/ a bunch of other stuff.
Posted by: Ed L at August 25, 2024 09:57 PM (yRXSd)
Ammo can full, still in plastic.

Posted by: Eromero at August 25, 2024 09:59 PM (LHPAg)

336 It's a Craftsman oilless. Long story short, last year I needed mid/high capacity in a hurry so found this on Craigslist. Other than it's normal noise, it worked.

Pulled the plastic shroud off and discovered that the connecting rod had broken in half! And whatever bearing or whatever that should have been on the flywheel end is nowwhere to be found. Just a bolt holding on to some small piece of metal.

I don't think it's worth the repair. If it was just the piston seal, then maybe...
Posted by: haffhowershower at August 25, 2024 09:54 PM (NMT5x)

It's amazing how useful oil is...

Those oilless compress are very noisy, and they don't last well at all. Back in the '90's, when I worked for Sperry-Sun Drilling Services, we used oilless compressors for the air supply for our gas detectors and chromatographs. Had to be oilless, because oil traces would muck up the instrument readings. Nearly always carried a spare in the logging unit.

I'd recommend getting an oil-lubricated compressor. Even a 50-year old one will work, and they are rebuildable.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 25, 2024 09:59 PM (iciH7)

337 screamingindigital, is the SC MoMe going to be upcountry? I’ve inherited my late father and stepmother’s place in Western NC, it’s just up the mountain from Greenville SC.

Posted by: The Osprey at August 25, 2024 09:59 PM (+2I7p)

338 Got to the range last weekend. Just 9’s…a Glock 17, Springfield SA-35 and a CZ.
I’m really liking that SA-35…nice to finally have a version of Mr. Browning’s last masterpiece finally made here in the States.
Posted by: The Osprey at August 25, 2024 09:55 PM (+2I7p)

Nice to see you here, Osprey!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 25, 2024 10:01 PM (iciH7)

339 And BTW.....the PSA AR kits are super easy to assemble and quite reasonable for under $400.
Posted by: chappyman66 at August 25, 2024 09:50 PM (L3byd)

Also, GREAT customer service!

Posted by: GWB at August 25, 2024 10:01 PM (CrXxA)

340 screamingindigital, is the SC MoMe going to be upcountry? I’ve inherited my late father and stepmother’s place in Western NC, it’s just up the mountain from Greenville SC.
Posted by: The Osprey
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I'm in the upstate, so that's where I want it to be, if we can find a good place.

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 25, 2024 10:02 PM (iZbyp)

341 337 screamingindigital, is the SC MoMe going to be upcountry? I’ve inherited my late father and stepmother’s place in Western NC, it’s just up the mountain from Greenville SC.
Posted by: The Osprey at August 25, 2024 09:59 PM (+2I7p)
This sounds promising, especially since Mark Robinson will be NC Governor next year.

Posted by: Eromero at August 25, 2024 10:02 PM (LHPAg)

342 Nood.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at August 25, 2024 10:02 PM (6cZhR)

343 ONT is nood? Just got the smokies flipped, and buns toasting on the upper rack of the gas grill. Another 3-4 minutes should do it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 25, 2024 10:05 PM (iciH7)

344 Come on people, Food Thread is at 363. Let's keep Weasel off the boss's shit list. He needs a good bonus this year to buy more ammo.

Posted by: BillyD at August 25, 2024 10:05 PM (Yt3ED)

345 Hey AOP was using your recip saw today trimming the cactus.

Posted by: The Osprey at August 25, 2024 10:09 PM (+2I7p)

346 Mr Eromero, no fasting required for your procedure. Hope it goes well....

Posted by: Grateful at August 25, 2024 10:22 PM (IQ6Gq)

347 .380 vs. 9mm isn't an important discussion. What's important is to find the gun that you like to shoot. Because then you'll want to shoot. And then you'll shoot a lot and become proficient and accurate. Then, when you hit someone center mass, because you've been practicing and shooting that gun to the point it's second nature to you and you don't really have to even think about it, it will not matter at all what caliber you used. That person will immediately reevaluate their priorities away from you.

Posted by: MLCross at August 25, 2024 10:29 PM (Q2MxE)

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