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aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com CBD: cbd at cutjibnewsletter.com Buck: buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com joe mannix: mannix2024 at proton.me MisHum: petmorons at gee mail.com J.J. Sefton: sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com | Hobby Thread - Aug 10, 2024 [TRex]Welcome hobbyists! Pull up a chair and sit a spell with the horde in this little corner of the interweb. A spin of the Ace of Spades wheel of hobbies has come up with a theme of painting and animation for this week. Do you paint or draw? Do you work in oils or watercolor? What subjects? Is painting a life-long hobby or something picked up later in life? How did you learn? Were you inspired by a style from another painter or did you chart your own course? Have you had spectacular failures that are funnier in retrospect? For the animators, did you learn to draw flip booklets as a start? Do you pay homage to the animators that did the legendary movies by hand? Have you moved to animation on computer? Do you believe that every picture tells a story?TRex has limited knowledge of this world and certainly has no skills (little arms are not good for painting or drawing). Looking for horde help to make this work. We're here to talk about those who paint and animate. As usual, keep this thread limited to hobbies. Politics and current events can wait for other threads. Play nice. Don't feed the trolls. Pants not required. Top photo - TRex appreciates fine art. Starry Waffles painted by Matt Dawson qualifies. Nice story behind the painting. We are fortunate to have artists among the horde. We begin with art from painter polynikes. He is a horde member in good standing and has been a regular participant on the hobby thread. He has often talked about paintings in progress or recently completed. In a horde World Exclusive unveiling, the Hobby Thread is honored to present the Bodie Island Lighthouse. The oil painting is 16 x 20. This is his most recent painting - so fresh that it isn't even on his website yet! If we ask nicely, maybe he'll tell us more about it and his painting:Tankascribe is a hordemember in good standing and also an oil painter. How does an oil painting progress? Like this: Wow. Thank you! Some of you know that Misanthropic Humanitarian (COB in good standing) is a painter. Casa TRex is fortunate to proudly display the piece below, generously contributed by MisHum to a MoMe raffle. In addition to the people, this kind of thing is another reason to get thee to a MoMe. When amateur art becomes a viral meme: The woman who painted the man who painted the woman who painted the bird This Bob Ross episode has the most views of all posted on the Bob Ross Youtube channel. Had to pick one, so we'll go with the wisdom of crowds for the selection: Did you know that horde member BeckoningChasm tinkers with animation? You do now! Instead of pencils and ink, he tinkers with PhotoShop, Flash, Audacity, Audition and Vegas Pro. Sample below from his Youtube channel. Too much for TRex's small dinosaur brain to comprehend, but maybe he can explain more about his process and the inspiration behind his projects: This is a fascinating look at principles of animation - how to manage shapes to show movement: The Library of Congress has an interesting micro-site on the early origins of American animation - lot of short videos. Antiques roadshow Disney animation finds: Walt Disney Fantasia animation celluloid Collection of animation drawings from a woman who worked at Disney as an inker and painter - adding lines and color to animation cels 1959 Sleeping Beauty celStop-motion claymation is not painting or drawing, but is a first derivative and this is a fun video showing how it is done: Did you miss last week's hobby thread with a textile artistry theme? The horde shared some great stories. The comments may be closed, but you can re-live the content. Horde challenge/request - if you or someone nearby is making your own Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch based on the link/pattern provided in last week's hobby thread, please send a photo for posting in a future hobby thread. Follow-up from Wenda from last week's thread. Here's here post last week with the background story:Another notable comment from last week: Words of wisdom: "Because despite all our troubles, when things are grim out in that wide round world of ours, that's when it's really important to have a good hobby." Posted by: tankascribe at June 22, 2024 07:41 PM (HWxAD). If painting and animation are not your thing and you have trouble finding something in the content or comments that resonates with you, hijack the thread for your hobbying as you see fit. We will feature a different hobby next time around. Send thoughts or suggestions to moronhobbies at protonmail dot com. Ace of Spaces is not responsible for damage caused by Holy Hand Grenades. Any resemblance between this hobby thread and official CDB art threads are coincidental and hereby disclaimed. Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
Welcome Hobbiests
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2024 05:31 PM (fwDg9) 2
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Posted by: Redbanzai at August 10, 2024 05:32 PM (1HUy0) 3
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Posted by: Redbanzai at August 10, 2024 05:32 PM (1HUy0) 4
Polynikes and Mis Hum outstanding wotk
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2024 05:35 PM (fwDg9) 5
I do bad watercolor. I show it to people sometimes to encourage them to give it a try.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 10, 2024 05:35 PM (dDSBl) 6
Wouldn't be surprised if that happened
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2024 05:36 PM (fwDg9) 7
I've been to that Waffle House, don't go there alone after midnight.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2024 05:38 PM (Cc/B0) 8
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Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2024 05:40 PM (fwDg9) 9
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Posted by: Redbanzai at August 10, 2024 05:42 PM (1HUy0) 10
Tankascribe very nice figurative work. It's a subject that you can't take liberties or get close. It's either a good representation or not . No in-between. Yours is good.
Posted by: polynikes at August 10, 2024 05:42 PM (B1dzx) 11
My home is blessed with the incredible art of Mis Hum and polynikes.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 10, 2024 05:43 PM (nDGMq) 12
There are a few of the horde that do art for a living and I wish they would share .
Posted by: polynikes at August 10, 2024 05:44 PM (B1dzx) 13
To follow up on last week - I did two more SOTA activations; one on Thursday, and one this morning. Thursday's was rather exhausting, so I did an easy one close to home today. I have concluded that I need a better, and larger, backpack so I can stow away some emergency gear in case I get stuck out in the field. Hey, at least I can call for my own rescue, right?
Posted by: PabloD at August 10, 2024 05:44 PM (nbhYK) 14
The NATO report is apparently re-cycling video from a previous Ukraine attack on a Russian ammo storage facility. Now, back to hobbying...
Posted by: TRex at August 10, 2024 05:46 PM (IQ6Gq) 15
"...SOTA..."
Posted by: PabloD at August 10, 2024 05:44 PM (nbhYK) This is really interesting stuff...please consider submitting a short piece about it to TRex! Posted by: CharlieGray'sDildo at August 10, 2024 05:49 PM (d9fT1) 16
15 "...SOTA..."
Posted by: PabloD at August 10, 2024 05:44 PM (nbhYK) This is really interesting stuff...please consider submitting a short piece about it to TRex! Posted by: CharlieGray'sDildo at August 10, 2024 05:49 PM (d9fT1) *** In process!! Posted by: TRex at August 10, 2024 05:49 PM (IQ6Gq) 17
CGD - I emailed TRex last week.
Posted by: PabloD at August 10, 2024 05:49 PM (nbhYK) 18
polynikes, how many different brushes do you have?
Posted by: Ben Had at August 10, 2024 05:49 PM (nDGMq) 19
I used to paint in oils but haven't for several years. Here's a representation. It's a fairly tiny work, 10x12 as I recall.
https://tinyurl.com/yc7haf49 Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 10, 2024 05:50 PM (CHHv1) 20
The talent among Horde members is wonderful. I've commented about paintings by Mis Hum and Polynikes in the past and the praise was well deserved. I have no idea how Beckoning Chasm is able to make his animation films. It has the feel of magic. And he manages to put a story in the brief segments that stay with the viewer.
Posted by: JTB at August 10, 2024 05:51 PM (zudum) 21
I had a friend in high school who was an excellent artist. I would hang out in his room (pretending to study) and he would show me how to draw simple stuff like eyes.
Sadly, I have no talent, but it sure was fun! Posted by: CharlieGray'sDildo at August 10, 2024 05:51 PM (d9fT1) 22
I emailed TRex last week.
Posted by: PabloD at August 10, 2024 05:49 PM (nbhYK) Great! I'm looking forward to it. Posted by: CharlieGray'sDildo at August 10, 2024 05:52 PM (d9fT1) 23
BeckoningChasm, lots of talent there.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 10, 2024 05:52 PM (nDGMq) 24
I use Postimage to put my pictures on website, they are too long here so still then need to use Tinyurl.com.
I think although I have a account ( free so far) have post ed pictures using it but not signed in. It's hard for me to know if not signed in matters. Someone could try it who doesn't have a account. Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2024 05:52 PM (fwDg9) 25
Beckoning Chasm that tickles me, I do like Sci-fi drawings
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2024 05:54 PM (fwDg9) Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 10, 2024 05:54 PM (WDJ9Z) 27
People with artistic talent see the world differently from the rest. My college roommate was a gifted artist. Idiots like me, when asked to draw a person, draw a circle for the head, then a torso, then a couple of legs, and it looks like a 3rd grader's best effort. He would start to draw random lines, scribble here, scribble there, and all of a sudden a person would appear on the paper. Same for a friend I had growing up. They interpret 3-D space differently.
Posted by: PabloD at August 10, 2024 05:55 PM (nbhYK) 28
I remember I tried to tinker with the computer photoshop and drawing tools a few decades ago. I quickly learned that my lack of ability for actual drawing or painting carried over to the computer tools. I can crop my very amateur pics and that is pretty much all.
Posted by: PaleRider at August 10, 2024 05:55 PM (xNAmg) 29
Thanks to Tankascribe for the wonderful example of his skill and the process (and stages) he goes through. For anyone trying to learn the rudiments of drawing and painting it is very helpful.
I'll check out the various links after the thread. Posted by: JTB at August 10, 2024 05:56 PM (zudum) 30
All my animation is done in 2-D, which can be challenging. I'd like to work in 3-D, which would be especially useful for showing an object or character from different angles. As it is, if I want a different angle, I have to re-draw whatever it is. Because of this, I tend to pick an angle for an object and stay with it unless really necessary.
3-D is also really useful for lighting. An object in 3-D can be made to cast shadows, which automatically move with it. I have to draw lighting effects, such as shadows and highlighting. For the video above, I had to draw and animate the shadows for each of the rocks. That sounds tedious because it kind of was. I've learned a lot about what to do, though I am strictly an amateur and not a very good one at that. Most of it I just sort of worked out logically, which can be fun but can be a bunch of work. But it's interesting to discover what can be done and how. There, more than you needed to know about animation using ten-year-old software! Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 10, 2024 05:56 PM (CHHv1) 31
Starry Waffles!
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 10, 2024 05:57 PM (C6JOt) 32
My brother was an amazing artist. He used oils and water colors.
His main job was building all the models for highway construction for the CA highway dept Posted by: Ben Had at August 10, 2024 05:58 PM (nDGMq) 33
polynikes, how many different brushes do you have?
Posted by: Ben Had at August 10, 2024 05:49 PM (nDGMq) I have a lot of the same style brushes but in different sizes. I mainly use a filbert and an angle brushes. Fan brushes and rigger brushes to do leaves,grasses, etc. Posted by: polynikes at August 10, 2024 05:58 PM (B1dzx) 34
Beautiful artwork all around! I stand and sit and lie in awe. Really.
Stage 1: I think this is going to turn out good! If only I don't screw it up. Stage 2: My G-d, this thing looks like crap! What was I thinking? Stage 3: I'm sick of working on this painting and I want it to be done! Just shoot me now. *** Change "looks" to "reads" and "painting" to "novel" and you pretty much have my stages of writing something long. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 10, 2024 05:59 PM (omVj0) 35
Does it count if I dated the attractive nude model from trade school commercial art program?
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 10, 2024 06:00 PM (WDJ9Z) 36
I've been to that Waffle House, don't go there alone after midnight.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2024 *** It's not alone. Though I recall a WH in the far southern suburbs of Birmingham in 2021 that was excellent. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 10, 2024 06:01 PM (omVj0) 37
27 People with artistic talent see the world differently from the rest...They interpret 3-D space differently.
Posted by: PabloD at August 10, 2024 05:55 PM (nbhYK) *** This is very true. We'll do photography on a future thread which is more my speed, but I marvel at how others see the world. Walking around with good ones and hearing them talk out loud is humbling. Instagram has been a revelation to follow the good ones and learn. Some see light. Some see angles and composition. etc. Posted by: TRex at August 10, 2024 06:02 PM (IQ6Gq) 38
Awesome paintings and art works!
I am convinced artists just see the world differently than I do. I just don't have that "eye." Very cool that they do. Posted by: Diogenes at August 10, 2024 06:02 PM (W/lyH) 39
Wenda's needlepoint is so impressive and creative. Nothing like skill and imagination to take matters to a higher level. I've read about how to do the simplest cross stitch. What she accomplished is something that could be a family heirloom for generations.
Posted by: JTB at August 10, 2024 06:02 PM (zudum) 40
Change "looks" to "reads" and "painting" to "novel" and you pretty much have my stages of writing something long.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 10, 2024 05:59 PM (omVj0) That is how I felt when I first started out but now I look at it like a house under construction. It's going to look like a mess at some point. Posted by: polynikes at August 10, 2024 06:03 PM (B1dzx) 41
Heh. PabloD. Horde mind!
Posted by: Diogenes at August 10, 2024 06:04 PM (W/lyH) 42
polynikes also created the ultimate AoS thread painting.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 10, 2024 06:04 PM (nDGMq) 43
What else? I draw everything in PhotoShop. My advice is to draw bigger than you need, because you can always shrink it down. Enlarging it usually gets you artefacts.
Use layers for every little thing. You never know when something might have to be separated. I export to PNG because PNG has an alpha (transparent) channel. When exporting, it's possible to combine layers into a single layer for an object. I import the PNGs into Flash. Like PhotoShop, it's CS6 because it kind of does what I need. Once in flash, I use the "convert" function to turn it into a "movie clip" even though it isn't. I then spend days animating it in the way I want it to move. There's a free program from Newgrounds called "Swivel" that converts SWF (Flash playback files) into MP4 files. I then import those clips into Vegas and arranged them together. Finally I add sounds and drones and whatnot to make the soundtrack. This can be a lot of fun, taking sounds like birds or cicadas and mutating them until they're interesting. In the video above, for example, a lot of the soundtrack is a broken light bulb filament being shaken. It gets slowed and reverbed until it sounds great. Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 10, 2024 06:05 PM (CHHv1) 44
I think that's about it.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 10, 2024 06:05 PM (CHHv1) 45
32 My brother was an amazing artist. He used oils and water colors. His main job was building all the models for highway construction for the CA highway dept
Posted by: Ben Had at August 10, 2024 05:58 PM (nDGMq) *** Wow! Was he able to keep any of his work? Posted by: TRex at August 10, 2024 06:05 PM (IQ6Gq) 46
Wow, just wow. The Horde is so very talented. Each submission is unique and beautiful...of course, as a stitcher, Wenda - what the heck! Now only is that great stitching, but that is your design. I am in awe. Congrats!
Posted by: Grateful at August 10, 2024 06:05 PM (IQ6Gq) Posted by: polynikes at August 10, 2024 06:06 PM (B1dzx) 48
When I was cleaning out dad's nightstand I found 10 old belt buckles. I had the nifty idea to make a wreath of the buckles, mainly to go around the picture for his memorial instead of ordering a floral arrangement. Alas my execution leaves plenty to be desired; but I'm reminding myself that it is okay, it is not like it is something to try to sell, it was just a way to kind of encapsulate some of his life with the various safe driver, 1st amendment support, and horse themed buckles he had.
Posted by: PaleRider at August 10, 2024 06:06 PM (xNAmg) 49
That's the Waffle House in Van Gogh, OH
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2024 06:07 PM (63Dwl) 50
JTB, I've received my order of Cowboy Coffee tobacco from The Country Squire in Jackson, MS, and tried it out twice now. The stuff is bold; not too strong, but you definitely know you have smoked a pipe when you burn it in your briar or cob. It does not smell or taste like coffee. But it does have, and leave, a nice flavor (a little cocoa, a little Virginia) and pairs well with a morning coffee. The Cavendish in it keeps it from being too rough.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 10, 2024 06:07 PM (omVj0) 51
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PaleRider, that touches my heart. What a great idea. Posted by: Grateful at August 10, 2024 06:08 PM (IQ6Gq) 52
ZOD IMPERIAL.
Posted by: ZOD at August 10, 2024 06:11 PM (P+D4R) 53
You can learn how to see things correctly and draw what you actually see. It takes practice.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 10, 2024 06:11 PM (dDSBl) 54
I'm going to have to stop looking at the Hobby Thread. I don't have any now.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 10, 2024 06:11 PM (0eaVi) 55
I thought I'd find some how-to tips from pinterest et al with a web search for belt buckle wreaths but all the hits I got were just holiday wreaths with Santa's belt. So I had to completely wing it.
Posted by: PaleRider at August 10, 2024 06:11 PM (xNAmg) 56
44 I think that's about it.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 10, 2024 06:05 PM *** I don't know what most of those words mean, but thanks much for sharing. Keep us posted when you release new pieces. Posted by: TRex at August 10, 2024 06:11 PM (IQ6Gq) 57
I believe I am going to follow a Bob Ross tutorial and send mine vs. his. However, I strongly believe we will need a comedy thread!
In awe of the talent here! Posted by: Piper at August 10, 2024 06:12 PM (pZEOD) Posted by: PabloD at August 10, 2024 06:12 PM (nbhYK) 59
54 I'm going to have to stop looking at the Hobby Thread. I don't have any now.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 10, 2024 06:11 PM *** Where better to pick up a new one? Posted by: TRex at August 10, 2024 06:13 PM (IQ6Gq) 60
TRex, no the highway dept kept all the models.
He did gift me a watercolor that is a piece of Moron art. I am having it copied and printed on some t-shirts for the MoMe. Posted by: Ben Had at August 10, 2024 06:14 PM (nDGMq) 61
Cheesemaking. Large-scale gardening and landscape design. Interrogation. Sambar. Dog husbandry. Collection of humans. Naval history research (1870-1915). Other things.
Posted by: ZOD at August 10, 2024 06:15 PM (P+D4R) 62
The people that own Bob Ross, Inc. apparently ripped off Bobs family after his death. There is a documentary about it. Bob Ross: Happy Accidents, Betryal and Greed.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14539744/ Posted by: TC at August 10, 2024 06:16 PM (cHOHf) 63
For those who want to learn to draw and paint, I will say it is worth the effort. Starting in childhood might be the ideal but starting later in life (late 60s for me) is still wonderful. And please don't be discouraged. You can't begin with less talent or knowledge than I did. The learning process has been enjoyable for its own sake. And all it takes is a few pencils, some inexpensive but decent paper and a couple of erasers. The 'decent' paper is able to stand up to erasing and there will be a LOT of erasing.
Perhaps the best advice I've received is to be patient (not my strong point) and persistent. Tankascribe's mentioning how long the painting took was very helpful. Posted by: JTB at August 10, 2024 06:17 PM (zudum) Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 10, 2024 06:17 PM (Q4IgG) 65
Where better to pick up a new one?
Posted by: TRex at August 10, 2024 06:13 PM (IQ6Gq) Suddenly don't feel like doing anything anymore. Could be the weather I suppose. Or getting old.... Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 10, 2024 06:17 PM (0eaVi) Posted by: ZOD at August 10, 2024 06:18 PM (P+D4R) 67
According to Bob Ross he painted approximately 30,000 paintings. He also did three paintings of the same subject for his TV show.
One before the show , one on the show and one after the show where he took his time and did for instructional purposes. Posted by: polynikes at August 10, 2024 06:22 PM (B1dzx) 68
>>Perhaps the best advice I've received is to be patient (not my strong point) and persistent. Tankascribe's mentioning how long the painting took was very helpful. Posted by: JTB at August 10, 2024 06:17 PM (zudum)
Interesting advice. I offset the expense of purchasing 100 art students by cultivating them until only one displayed sufficient talent. I then sold that student to the Jeff Koons studio and cleaned up. Right way, wrong way, Zod way. Posted by: ZOD at August 10, 2024 06:23 PM (P+D4R) 69
Thanks for the description of the animation Beckoning Chasm, it is fascinating. Not something I'll ever do myself but helps me appreciate them better. Kind of like Kris's art threads help to decipher some of the museum paintings.
Posted by: PaleRider at August 10, 2024 06:25 PM (xNAmg) 70
I like the original Starry Night now called Starry Night over the Rhône more than the more famous Starry Night .
Posted by: polynikes at August 10, 2024 06:25 PM (B1dzx) 71
I spend a lot of time here, so I feel I know many of you, but I rarely post. I really enjoy sharing something with you. Thanks, TRex.
Posted by: Wenda at August 10, 2024 06:27 PM (CuWn8) 72
MisHum is so talented!
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 10, 2024 06:28 PM (Ka3bZ) 73
As I'm learning to draw and, eventually, use color I find I'm attracted to a couple of subjects: animals, especially birds, and botanicals. Trying to capture the great variety of subtle details, shapes and shading in both subjects is intriguing. I love landscapes and still lifes but haven't been inclined to try drawing them yet. ( I loved setting up still life scenes when I did photography.) The point being to find subjects that attract you for whatever reason. It helps to keep the juices flowing.
Posted by: JTB at August 10, 2024 06:29 PM (zudum) 74
Does it count if I dated the attractive nude model from trade school commercial art program?
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 10, 2024 06:00 PM (WDJ9Z) Judges say: Pics or it didn't happen Posted by: tbodie Lurker. Unless you are reading this. at August 10, 2024 06:30 PM (R+Lcm) 75
Thanks for the video about animation. My 12-year-old grandson is pretty good at it so I sent it on to him to hopefully take him to the next level.
Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at August 10, 2024 06:31 PM (FEVMW) 76
I am a big fan of Southwestern art. R C Gorman, Fritz Shoulder and Pena.
I have mentioned before that my dining table is inlaid tiles of corn maidens and turquoise jewelry . Posted by: Ben Had at August 10, 2024 06:32 PM (nDGMq) 77
I'm self taught so my way likely not how they would teach someone. I do though follow the same process as tankascribe of blocking in my sketch, molding it and then the details. Part of the enjoyment for me is figuring out how to reproduce what I see in my reference ( live or photo) . There are probably a lot of artist hacks and could save myself some frustration but then the painting wouldn't be mine but rather something I learned from someone else. Nothing wrong with that but I really like artists that you know immediately who did the painting. That's my goal but alas I think I started too late.
Posted by: polynikes at August 10, 2024 06:33 PM (B1dzx) 78
That sounds really cool Ben Had.
Posted by: PaleRider at August 10, 2024 06:34 PM (xNAmg) 79
The Conductor...very interesting.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2024 06:36 PM (Cc/B0) 80
I am a big fan of Southwestern art. R C Gorman, Fritz Shoulder and Pena.
I have mentioned before that my dining table is inlaid tiles of corn maidens and turquoise jewelry . Posted by: Ben Had at August 10, 2024 *** Me too, Ben Had. No art per se in my place, but a lot of my furniture is in SW or Santa Fe or Mission style. My armchair and footstool has the "sun-bleached" stripes in sand and green of a southwestern blanket, and my bookcases, TV stand, and headboard are all the blond wood style. And my end tables in the living room are Mission. I found a lot of the stuff when I lived in Denver. Did you inlay the tiles on the table yourself? Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 10, 2024 06:38 PM (omVj0) 81
What else is there to do in the frozen north except ice fishing and painting from November to May?
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2024 06:38 PM (fwDg9) 82
50 ... Wolfus,
I agree about the Cowboy Coffee tobacco. It's decent with flavor and not too strong. Like you, I find sipping coffee (black, no sugar, as the Bible specifies) while puffing enhances the cocoa flavor of the tobacco. Having said that I probably won't get more of it as I've found other blends that offer more enhancements with coffee. Mac Baren's Symphony is one of them. Posted by: JTB at August 10, 2024 06:39 PM (zudum) 83
Adobe had tiling feature that allowed you to take a picture, tile it and print it out. The picture tiles were sized to fit 4x4 ceramic tiles and then decoupaged.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 10, 2024 06:39 PM (nDGMq) 84
I'm still enjoying watercolor painting, but it's tough, mainly because the approach - light washes to dark- is not natural for me. With oils, I think you start with the darks and move to the highlights, which is more intuitive. But even sketching with a pencil has given me a greater appreciation for the beauty and complexity of all of God's creations.
Posted by: LASue at August 10, 2024 06:40 PM (YDB6U) 85
Holy hand gernade photos incoming!! (eventually) These things take time… but are rather quick on a Jurassic timeline.
Posted by: HappyFun at August 10, 2024 06:40 PM (+Wlld) 86
During Jr High school I really got into mechanical and architectural drawing. Two courses offered as "skills" that could be used later.
Then, I took a couple of art (painting) classes in college. My "style" has been very sterile ever sense. I cannot draw natural figures... like faces or people for the life of me. It's a struggle. Sometimes. Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 10, 2024 06:40 PM (Q4IgG) 87
Posted by: LASue at August 10, 2024 06:40 PM (YDB6U)
Yes it's almost like negative painting where you get the highlights or white by not painting that space. Posted by: polynikes at August 10, 2024 06:42 PM (B1dzx) 88
Having said that I probably won't get more of it as I've found other blends that offer more enhancements with coffee. Mac Baren's Symphony is one of them.
Posted by: JTB at August 10, 2024 *** I've tried Symphony and liked it, along with MB's Golden Extra. And I bought two tins of their Burley London Blend when it came back out this year. Still haven't cracked any of the three, or the tin of Gawith & Hoggarth Best Brown Flake I bought, either. I guess I'm waiting for a *special* occasion. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 10, 2024 06:42 PM (omVj0) 89
Wolfus, yes I did. I live in a barndominium so I built all my furniture to fit.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 10, 2024 06:42 PM (nDGMq) 90
84 But even sketching with a pencil has given me a greater appreciation for the beauty and complexity of all of God's creations.
Posted by: LASue at August 10, 2024 06:40 PM *** There's a lot of truth in these words. There's a reason people like da Vinci and Rodin did a lot of drawing. Posted by: TRex at August 10, 2024 06:43 PM (IQ6Gq) 91
Posted by: TRex at August 10, 2024 06:43 PM (IQ6Gq)
Van Gogh did over 1200 sketches in just 10 years. Weird thing about Da Vinci is that painting was probably the thing he least liked to do. Posted by: polynikes at August 10, 2024 06:45 PM (B1dzx) 92
Ben Had, your furniture, especially your dining table, sound quite unique. Any chance you'd take some photos so we could enjoy at the MoMe [See, yet another benefit of attending the TX MoMe!]
Posted by: Grateful at August 10, 2024 06:46 PM (IQ6Gq) 93
@84
>>I'm still enjoying watercolor painting, but it's tough, mainly because the approach - light washes to dark- is not natural for me. Watercolor is a much harder medium to master than oils and you can recover from mistakes plus either paint dark to light or light to dark. You can't really paint dark to light in water color with incorporating gouache and then at point you're no longer painting in a translucent medium. Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 10, 2024 06:47 PM (XV/Pl) 94
There is a lot of geometry in the human form. Start by drawing the geometric shapes and then you will find the finesse of those shapes
Posted by: Ben Had at August 10, 2024 06:47 PM (nDGMq) 95
Wolfus, yes I did. I live in a barndominium so I built all my furniture to fit.
Posted by: Ben Had Ben I'm trying to imagine your dining table and failing miserably. Do you have a picture you could share? Posted by: Tuna at August 10, 2024 06:48 PM (oaGWv) 96
94 There is a lot of geometry in the human form. Start by drawing the geometric shapes and then you will find the finesse of those shapes
Posted by: Ben Had at August 10, 2024 06:47 PM *** Same for horses?! Posted by: TRex at August 10, 2024 06:50 PM (IQ6Gq) 97
Grateful, the tiles were inlaid with a 4x4 cedar border and the legs are 2inch capped copper pipe and copper inlays at the joints.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 10, 2024 06:52 PM (nDGMq) 98
Warning! Pipe tobacco stuff!
Mac Baren puts out the HH series of flake tobacco blends. (I don't know what the HH means.) Each one has one tobacco that is the base: burley, latakia, Virginia, dark fired, and others. I've tried the four mentioned and they have been excellent. Tons of flavor without being harsh or rough. As pressed flakes, they tend to smoke slow and cool. Latakia is often used in stronger English blends but the HH version brings out the natural sweetness of the Cyprian leaf. The HH Old Dark Fired is a burley Virginia blend. Steam heat is added to the pressing process which intensifies the sweet aspects of the burley. It is a slightly stronger blend but also offers plenty of flavor. (At the moment my favorite is the latakia flake. I like it better than the lamented Frog Morton.) Posted by: JTB at August 10, 2024 06:53 PM (zudum) 99
I used to pretty good at pencil and charcoal sketching as kid, probably up until sports began to dominate my life. Painting was always out of the question though, being color blind.
Posted by: javems at August 10, 2024 06:54 PM (8I4hW) 100
97/ Good Heavens, and you made this? You are an artist!
Posted by: Grateful at August 10, 2024 06:55 PM (IQ6Gq) 101
TRex, yes. Absolutely. I judge the ability of a horse to move by the trapezoid shape from the shoulder to the loin.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 10, 2024 06:57 PM (nDGMq) 102
I like seeing other examples of MisHum's paintings. There are a couple hanging on my wall just to my right.
I can't paint anything but houses and cars. Posted by: fd at August 10, 2024 06:58 PM (vFG9F) 103
Grateful, I am a plagarist.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 10, 2024 06:59 PM (nDGMq) 104
102 I can't paint anything but houses and cars.
Posted by: fd at August 10, 2024 06:58 PM *** You might be interested in this site - automotive livery design by a guy who used to paint race cars for Porsche in the 1980s: https://www.powell-livery.de/ Posted by: TRex at August 10, 2024 07:01 PM (IQ6Gq) 105
fd, I'm right there with ya on the house stuff.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 10, 2024 07:01 PM (nDGMq) 106
I've never been able to paint pictures. My drawings, when I have to draw something, are isometric. My brain doesn't work that way.
Posted by: fd at August 10, 2024 07:02 PM (vFG9F) 107
I was a very active drawler as a kid up to about 20 years, now painting figures is all I paint,
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2024 07:02 PM (fwDg9) 108
88 ... "I've tried Symphony and liked it, along with MB's Golden Extra. And I bought two tins of their Burley London Blend when it came back out this year."
I've liked Golden Extra for decades and only get it in bulk. That Burley London Blend is great. Wish it was a regular offering. I opened one tin and, like you, am saving the other for a special occasion. If it's ever offered again I will buy all I can find before it sells out. Next week C&D is releasing a new version of their Sun Bear blend, this time flavored with black locust honey. Last year's was with tupelo honey. I've got a tin on order and will let you know how it is. Posted by: JTB at August 10, 2024 07:02 PM (zudum) 109
My "style" has been very sterile ever sense. I cannot draw natural figures... like faces or people for the life of me. It's a struggle. Sometimes. Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 10, 2024 06:40 PM (Q4IgG) ___________ Know who else couldn't draw natural figures and had a sterile style? Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 10, 2024 07:03 PM (1Nxff) 110
"https://www.powell-livery.de/
Posted by: TRex" Those are cool. I've never wrapped a car but would try. Just a solid color to start. Posted by: fd at August 10, 2024 07:04 PM (vFG9F) 111
Since it's plus 100, I'll go OT real quick.
Checked out last night's ONT, and see that LenNeal has been banned. Bummer! He was the most ridiculous, over-the-top bullshit artist on this site. His shtick was awesome, just because of how silly it was. I think he made it as transparently lame and unbelievable as he could, just to see if anyone was dumb enough to bite. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 10, 2024 07:06 PM (kPau4) 112
Mrs fd has a 240SX badly in need of paint or a wrap but I would rather try wrapping it first.
Posted by: fd at August 10, 2024 07:06 PM (vFG9F) 113
Martini Farmer, pick up some clay and give it a try
Posted by: Ben Had at August 10, 2024 07:07 PM (nDGMq) 114
103/
Ha, so am I sometimes. I see something and know I can recreate it (thank you Pinterest!). Other times I use a pattern as a starting point and adapt along the way (same for recipes. Hubby claims I look at recipes as a "suggestion"). Then there is the occasional time I create from an idea....still, to complete that table makes you an artist in my mind. For what that's worth. Posted by: Grateful at August 10, 2024 07:08 PM (IQ6Gq) 115
I've watched a few videos of people fossil hunting. Looks quite fascinating.
Unfortunately it seems to take place on rocky beaches, which leaves me out. Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at August 10, 2024 07:08 PM (FfSAJ) 116
Did Len threaten to shoot somebody?
Posted by: fd at August 10, 2024 07:08 PM (vFG9F) 117
Art is definitely a personal preference. There is a guy named Michael James Smith who is technically as good as anyone in history regard to photo realism oil paintings.
Personally I wouldn't hang his painting's because I could just take a photo to hang. But I love watching his videos because it's almost unbelievable how he can recreate a photo with oil. Posted by: polynikes at August 10, 2024 07:09 PM (B1dzx) 118
116 Did Len threaten to shoot somebody?
Posted by: fd I think he got into it with Weasel. I wasn't there . Maybe someone who was could elaborate. Posted by: Tuna at August 10, 2024 07:11 PM (oaGWv) 119
The Musée d'Orsay has an entire room filled with Van Gogh paintings They are amazing in person
Posted by: javems at August 10, 2024 07:11 PM (8I4hW) 120
Len was highly disrespectful to Weasel.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 10, 2024 07:11 PM (nDGMq) 121
If I had a van I would like to wrap it with that WH picture at the top.
Posted by: fd at August 10, 2024 07:12 PM (vFG9F) 122
119 The Musée d'Orsay has an entire room filled with Van Gogh paintings They are amazing in person
Posted by: javems at August 10, 2024 07:11 PM *** An amazing building with or without paintings. Posted by: TRex at August 10, 2024 07:12 PM (IQ6Gq) 123
No need to elaborate. I'm sure he had it coming.
Posted by: fd at August 10, 2024 07:13 PM (vFG9F) 124
Thanks for the compliment, polynikes! Keep at your art, you'll only get better and better (and you're pretty darn good already). We don't leap out of the womb knowing how to do this stuff, it takes a lot of time, practice, and sweat equity. There's quite a few art students I've known who could have been really great, but they just didn't want to put in the time involved to take it up to the next level. SMH. Realistic art just takes the longest, no getting 'round it.
Posted by: tankascribe at August 10, 2024 07:13 PM (HWxAD) 125
Len was on the spectrum.
Posted by: polynikes at August 10, 2024 07:13 PM (B1dzx) 126
117 Art is definitely a personal preference. There is a guy named Michael James Smith who is technically as good as anyone in history regard to photo realism oil paintings.
Posted by: polynikes at August 10, 2024 07:09 PM *** This is a very interesting point. There's quite a range between photo realistic and cubist/abstract art. Impressionists fit in there somewhere - just enough of a sense of the subject but not crisp lines. Agreed on the technical skills though - whether or not you like the piece as "art," you've got to respect the skills. Posted by: TRex at August 10, 2024 07:15 PM (IQ6Gq) 127
He was the most ridiculous, over-the-top bullshit artist on this site. _________ *low whistle* Think of the competition he had to beat for that title. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 10, 2024 07:16 PM (1Nxff) 128
Checked out last night's ONT, and see that LenNeal has been banned. Bummer!
Not sorry here on my end. That shit got real old, real quick. Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 10, 2024 07:16 PM (mH6SG) 129
85 Holy hand gernade photos incoming!! (eventually) These things take time… but are rather quick on a Jurassic timeline.
Posted by: HappyFun at August 10, 2024 06:40 PM *** Excellent! Looking forward to it. Anyone else have a holy hand grenade project in the works? Posted by: TRex at August 10, 2024 07:16 PM (IQ6Gq) 130
I finally decided that I liked human names instead of "pet" names, which is why I had cats named Sasha and Angus
Posted by: Kindltot ---- Hmm. I expected a Don McLean mystery click. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2024 07:17 PM (XeU6L) 131
I don't think NASCARs are painted anymore. They are wrapped.
Posted by: Ronster at August 10, 2024 07:17 PM (3luTX) Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2024 07:17 PM (63Dwl) 133
TRex, well said. Art is expression.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 10, 2024 07:17 PM (nDGMq) 134
Oops. Sticky comment from last thread [a]I finally decided that I liked human names instead of "pet" names, which is why I had cats named Sasha and Angus
Posted by: Kindltot Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2024 07:17 PM (XeU6L) 135
*low whistle*
Think of the competition he had to beat for that title. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh LOL. I spewed a little of my rum and coke. Posted by: Tuna at August 10, 2024 07:18 PM (oaGWv) 136
Now I want a waffle.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 10, 2024 07:18 PM (8KZLC) 137
Art class was at one time a good way to identify potential students for Architectural trades.
I have always been really good at sketching ideas. I got even better when I discovered the archetecural scale rulers. My art classes in school prepared me to do semi pro looking prints on the fly as the need developed. I am whole heartedly greatful for that skill. Maps and site drawings are something I got really good at too but I blame that on being an anally retentive OC DM for D&D games. Probably 100+ large complex drawings under my belt since school and not one done for fun or artistry. I should try it for fun for a change. Funny story and someone saying something like "Her tatts look like a desktop at detention" the other day brough it to mind. I was notorious for drawing on my desk. I started a picture in history class and the next day someone had added to it. I added to that and this went in for a couple of weeks. At the end the whole class was into it. It turned out worthy of being preserved. cont... Posted by: Reforger at August 10, 2024 07:19 PM (xcIvR) 138
I see Richard Dawkins had his facebook account closed for saying men should be beating women in the Olympics.
I'm guessing he's another "educated" guy like Sam Harris that just found out about Chesterton's Fence... Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2024 07:19 PM (oZhjI) 139
LenNeal = gone. Leave it at that. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2024 07:19 PM (XeU6L) 140
"I don't think NASCARs are painted anymore. They are wrapped.
Posted by: Ronster" It's a lot cheaper. Posted by: fd at August 10, 2024 07:19 PM (vFG9F) 141
Len was highly disrespectful to Weasel.
He went all "tough guy" on our pal and that was the end of it. Weasel had enough and gave him the ejector. Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 10, 2024 07:21 PM (mH6SG) 142
JTB, patience is not my strong suit either. But, it takes as long as it takes and it's not done until it's done. Even if you're ready to tear out your hair by that point. Longest time spent on a painting was 75 hours. The majority of which was spent trying to fake up a landscape behind the figure in the foreground. I suck out loud at making stuff up out of my head; there must be lots of photographic reference!
Posted by: tankascribe at August 10, 2024 07:21 PM (HWxAD) 143
Now I want a waffle.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) Re the top painting. I've never seen a Waffle House that big. I wonder where it is. Posted by: Tuna at August 10, 2024 07:22 PM (oaGWv) 144
If you can, hit the Van Gogh museum in Amsterdam. What a place! (Especially if you are a fan of Van Gogh.)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 10, 2024 07:20 PM (8sMut) There is a 4K video of it on the intertubes. Just a 15 minute taste of it but the music and production is outstanding. I can only imagine seeing it in person. ? (I'd want them to play this music though😀 Posted by: polynikes at August 10, 2024 07:23 PM (B1dzx) 145
part 2
Then the janitors cleaned it off. A few weeks later I mentioned it at our Saturday D&D game and my buddy goes "That was you? Dude, you are an awesome artist." I was struggling to be as good as the other guy. Turns out I'd been friends with him since we were 7. I had no idea he was that good. We argued for 20 minutes over who was better. Spoiler.. He was. Posted by: Reforger at August 10, 2024 07:23 PM (xcIvR) 146
If you are of a more tactile nature pick up 5lb block of clay and let your fingers do the walking..
Posted by: Ben Had at August 10, 2024 07:23 PM (nDGMq) 147
Back on topic, cool to see that we have some very talented folks hanging out here. Bravo.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 10, 2024 07:24 PM (mH6SG) 148
The Waffle House looks exactly like that to a large percentage of late night clients.
Posted by: fd at August 10, 2024 07:24 PM (vFG9F) 149
Fantastic art! MisHum and Polynikes.
Cool animation Beckoning Chasm. Wonderful piece for your parents, Wenda. And that portrait, Tankascribe. Wow. Such talented people. Thank you all for sharing. Wow. Posted by: TecumsehTea at August 10, 2024 07:24 PM (JrYM1) 150
Time to say good night and thank you before the next AoS act takes the stage. So much talent and skill and varied interests among the horde. Thanks much for participating. We'll do it again next week with a different theme. As always, feel free to send projects, ideas, and thoughts to the hobby thread email. Cheers y'all!
Posted by: TRex at August 10, 2024 07:25 PM (IQ6Gq) 151
Thanks much, TRex.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 10, 2024 07:25 PM (mH6SG) 152
Thanks for the Chuck Jones clip! I got to meet Chuck Jones at a gallery showing in SF once. Got his autograph on his Chuck Amok semi-biography. He was tickled pink that I wore a Wile E. Coyote t-shirt because everyone always wanted to talk about Bug Bunny but he didn't create Bug, he just worked on him. The coyote was one of his creations, and I was happy to make his day. Had a great time talking about his boyhood cat, Johnson.
Posted by: tankascribe at August 10, 2024 07:26 PM (HWxAD) 153
I like to model, and film, young teen heros pounding pounding pounding their way through dark neither regions with ginormous dusky veiny hammers of Thor, until they finish, blowing their truth, their experiences, in my eyeballs, and I taste their subjective reality... Posted by: Tim Tampon Walz at August 10, 2024 07:26 PM (K+43C) 154
An amazing building with or without paintings.
Posted by: TRex at August 10, 2024 07:12 PM (IQ6Gq) Old train station as I recall. Will look that up. Yep Posted by: javems at August 10, 2024 07:26 PM (8I4hW) 155
TRex, all thanks to you. Your topic choices are inspired.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 10, 2024 07:26 PM (nDGMq) 156
How about a thread on essential tools? Like a bench mounted wire wheel?
Posted by: fd at August 10, 2024 07:27 PM (vFG9F) 157
I'm late to this party but I LOVE that lighthouse painting, polynikes!!
Posted by: screaming in digital at August 10, 2024 07:27 PM (iZbyp) 158
I knew there was a reason I was up every hour last night for a reason
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2024 07:27 PM (fwDg9) 159
152 Thanks for the Chuck Jones clip! I got to meet Chuck Jones at a gallery showing in SF once. The coyote was one of his creations, and I was happy to make his day. Had a great time talking about his boyhood cat, Johnson.
Posted by: tankascribe at August 10, 2024 07:26 PM *** Outstanding! Great memory. He was cartoon royalty (along with Mel Blanc). Posted by: TRex at August 10, 2024 07:28 PM (IQ6Gq) 160
This thread is inspiring to see what others do
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2024 07:28 PM (fwDg9) 161
Are we getting a Werner Herzog thread tonight?
Posted by: fd at August 10, 2024 07:29 PM (vFG9F) 162
145 Then the janitors cleaned it off.
A few weeks later I mentioned it at our Saturday D&D game and my buddy goes "That was you? Dude, you are an awesome artist." I was struggling to be as good as the other guy. Turns out I'd been friends with him since we were 7. Posted by: Reforger at August 10, 2024 07:23 PM *** Great story! Posted by: TRex at August 10, 2024 07:30 PM (IQ6Gq) 163
When I was in HS I was in the local astronomy club with a fellow named Joe Tucciarone. We became good friends and spent a lot of time star gazing together over the years.
Joe loved to paint dinosaurs and space scenes and became kind of well known for this stuff. I think the Planetarium in Memphis has a permeant display of his work. https://tinyurl.com/mr4y3twj Posted by: pawn at August 10, 2024 07:32 PM (QB+5g) 164
Ben Had, it's been a while. Is your pickup back to beautiful?
Posted by: Ronster at August 10, 2024 07:34 PM (3luTX) Posted by: polynikes at August 10, 2024 07:34 PM (B1dzx) 166
There is a movie thread.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 10, 2024 07:35 PM (nDGMq) 167
Posted by: pawn at August 10, 2024 07:32 PM (QB+5g)
Oh and very very nice. I love interstellar subjects. Posted by: polynikes at August 10, 2024 07:36 PM (B1dzx) 168
MOVIE MARQUEE THREAD
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2024 07:36 PM (fwDg9) 169
I've enjoyed doing animation since as a kid I got to use Dad's 16mm movie camera with the single-frame action. Even before that my brother and I enjoyed doing flip-books.
Alas, the 16mm films were lost decades ago. Other old animation work is locked up in formats I can't (yet) transfer to digital. What I have in digital is minimal and not representative of what I could do with proper time and tools. Lots of animated GIFs I won't link here. I had some links to limited animations I was able to do. But Pixy rejects the comment as spam.. Siiigh. I'll try just one Juggler http://mindfulwebworks.com/ headshop/05/juggler#video Should play from 12:16 to 12:41 Posted by: mindful webworker - animatedly at August 10, 2024 07:36 PM (7MP2B) 170
Was watching a video and got back to a new thread
Honestly Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2024 07:37 PM (fwDg9) 171
Thanks TRex
Posted by: Redbanzai at August 10, 2024 08:33 PM (1HUy0) 172
I love claymation, but the amount of work needed frightens me.
Posted by: Weak Geek at August 10, 2024 09:28 PM (p/isN) 173
Inspiration in a dream?
I accept the Greek notion of Muses, but as a Christian, it is the Holy Spirit. Yup, all that is good comes as a gift from God. Crazy, but I don't care. Posted by: jimmymcnulty at August 10, 2024 09:49 PM (iz0I/) 174
Wenda, that's so beautiful.
Posted by: m at August 11, 2024 03:04 AM (64Zez) 175
I’ve just ordered my copy of Starry Waffles. The artist is a really friendly guy.
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