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Mid-Morning Art Thread
Charles Schreyvogel
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: rhennigantx at August 08, 2024 09:30 AM (gbOdA)
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Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 08, 2024 09:32 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at August 08, 2024 09:32 AM (hOUT3)
Title: My Bunkie
Artist: Charles Schreyvogel (1861–1912)
Date: finished 1899
Culture: American
Medium: Oil on canvas
Dimensions: 25 3/16 x 34in. (64 x 86.4cm)
Framed: 33 3/8 x 47 5/8 x 4in. (84.8 x 121 x 10.2cm)
Posted by: rhennigantx at August 08, 2024 09:32 AM (gbOdA)
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Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 08, 2024 09:33 AM (K/1/x)
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at August 08, 2024 09:33 AM (MDua2)
Posted by: redridinghood at August 08, 2024 09:33 AM (NpAcC)
Sometime times you throw curve, sometimes you throw a meaty fastball right down the middle of the plate.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 08, 2024 09:34 AM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 08, 2024 09:34 AM (ZANHd)
Posted by: Tonypete at August 08, 2024 09:34 AM (WXNFJ)
You really need to embiggen this picture to appreciate the back story!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at August 08, 2024 09:34 AM (hOUT3)
https://tinyurl.com/aercyrkc
Now that grabs you and refuses to let go.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 08, 2024 09:34 AM (J2vNu)
-- Mayor Pete
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 09:35 AM (v6JzV)
Posted by: Doof at August 08, 2024 09:35 AM (RhGG0)
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at August 08, 2024 09:36 AM (MDua2)
Thanks, Wolfus Aurelius!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at August 08, 2024 09:36 AM (hOUT3)
Posted by: jmel at August 08, 2024 09:36 AM (RWHIh)
https://tinyurl.com/aercyrkc
Now that grabs you and refuses to let go.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 08, 2024 09:34 AM (J2vNu)
Why is he shooting the artist when there's an injun RIGHT BEHIND him!!???
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 08, 2024 09:36 AM (Zz0t1)
-- Mayor Pete
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 09:35 AM (v6JzV)
******
Sucking my binky.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 08, 2024 09:36 AM (NpAcC)
Posted by: Ben Had at August 08, 2024 09:36 AM (nDGMq)
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at August 08, 2024 09:37 AM (NLph6)
Well done Bulgaroctonus
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at August 08, 2024 09:37 AM (hOUT3)
"Bunkie" means bunk mate, right? Those are U.S. Army uniforms.
Posted by: Pete in Texas at August 08, 2024 09:37 AM (BHrzb)
Posted by: Ben Had at August 08, 2024 09:36 AM (nDGMq)
Impressive gaskins.
Posted by: BignJames at August 08, 2024 09:38 AM (AwYPR)
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This belongs behind a bar.
Posted by: Pudinhead at August 08, 2024 09:38 AM (FmapG)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 08, 2024 09:38 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Frasier Crane at August 08, 2024 09:38 AM (bNf8H)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 08, 2024 09:36 AM (Zz0t1)
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Hekawi peace loving Indians!
https://youtu.be/WYkUNuMD8pc
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 08, 2024 09:39 AM (K/1/x)
If this incident was supposed to be "on the Plains": There's a lot of Plains in the US. Kansas, Texas, eastern NM, eastern CO, just to name a few. So the Indians involved could have been any of five or six tribes.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 08, 2024 09:39 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: redridinghood at August 08, 2024 09:39 AM (NpAcC)
A time when everything men did revolved around gaining land and steady pussy.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 08, 2024 09:38 AM
*looks around nervously*
Posted by: A sheep at August 08, 2024 09:39 AM (ZANHd)
But then, I've read all of Louis L'Amour's books.
And just finished watching the three Man with no Name movies.
I've heard it said, the western movie is the most American of stories, completely unique to the United States.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 08, 2024 09:39 AM (t6DGO)
Lots of drama in this painting.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 08, 2024 09:39 AM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 09:39 AM (v6JzV)
Posted by: 18-1 at August 08, 2024 09:40 AM (oZhjI)
Bunkie still has his carbine and pistol. He'll risk his life but he's not going to pay for lost equipment if he can avoid it. I guess he couldn't get the saddle off his horse before they all had to skedaddle.
Posted by: Gref at August 08, 2024 09:40 AM (rZcgP)
Posted by: Ben Had at August 08, 2024 09:40 AM (nDGMq)
Isn't that all time?
Posted by: 18-1 at August 08, 2024 09:40 AM (oZhjI)
"Where Indian fights are colorful sights
and nobody takes a lickin'
Where pale face and redskin
Both turn chicken.
When drilling and fighting get them down,
They know their morale can't droop.
As long as they all relax in town
Before they resume with a bang and a boom
F Troop."
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 09:41 AM (qdbNv)
Posted by: From about That Time at August 08, 2024 09:41 AM (4780s)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 08, 2024 09:41 AM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 08, 2024 09:41 AM (JvZF+)
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 08, 2024 09:41 AM (Xbq2K)
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 09:41 AM (qdbNv)
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Ahem. Comment # 43.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 08, 2024 09:42 AM (K/1/x)
I've heard it said, the western movie is the most American of stories, completely unique to the United States.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 08, 2024 09:39 AM (t6DGO)
Uhh, how's the spaghetti?
Posted by: BignJames at August 08, 2024 09:42 AM (AwYPR)
Posted by: Random Disney Writer at August 08, 2024 09:42 AM (/y8xj)
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 08, 2024 09:41 AM
Those were the days.
- Archie Bunkie
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 08, 2024 09:42 AM (ZANHd)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 08, 2024 09:42 AM (x0n13)
Just throwing that out there. For no reason whatsoever.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
Your daughter is married to Bunkie Hunt?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 09:43 AM (v6JzV)
Posted by: Biden's Dog
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Well, some of us are slower than others. Someone has to bring the averages down to normal.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 09:43 AM (qdbNv)
A time when everything men did revolved around gaining land and steady pussy.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 08, 2024 09:38 AM
*looks around nervously*
Posted by: A sheep at August 08, 2024 09:39 AM (ZANHd)
Run!
Posted by: Rabid Moroccan Donkey with a ruptured asshole at August 08, 2024 09:43 AM (XvuSI)
Posted by: BignJames at August 08, 2024 09:42 AM (AwYPR)
Western, apparently.
Posted by: Heavy Meta at August 08, 2024 09:44 AM (NgqoH)
Now that grabs you and refuses to let go.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 08, 2024
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Why is he shooting the artist when there's an injun RIGHT BEHIND him!!???
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 08, 2024
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Because there's an even bigger Injun in front of him!
Both Have Gun -- Will Travel and The Man From U.N.C.L.E. used this same technique in the opening sequence. Paladin drew his Colt and aimed it at the viewer while intoning a quick epigram drawn from the epsideo to come. U.N.C.L.E.'s Solo levels his modified P-38 at the viewer from behind spider-webbed bulletproof glass while the episode's title appears.
Both shows were masterminded by the same guy, one Sam Rolfe; so I'm not surprised.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 08, 2024 09:44 AM (J2vNu)
(The weapon upon which l learned to never, ever sell a pew pew stick)
Posted by: Tonypete at August 08, 2024 09:44 AM (WXNFJ)
Thanks CBD. I really enjoyed this selection.
Posted by: JTB at August 08, 2024 09:44 AM (zudum)
Just throwing that out there. For no reason whatsoever.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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There's a Lousy-ana town named that too. Not sure where it is. SW part of the state?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 08, 2024 09:45 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Random Disney Writer at August 08, 2024 09:42 AM (/y8xj)
The Comanche have entered the chat.
Posted by: Heavy Meta at August 08, 2024 09:45 AM (NgqoH)
Schreyvogel's work depicts a scene in which a group of US cavalrymen fight against a force of Native Americans, who are left unseen. One of the cavalrymen has been dismounted in the skirmish, prompting his comrade to rescue him by pulling him onto his own mount. The scene is based on an account told to Schreyvogel by a cavalry trooper he met in Colorado.[
Posted by: redridinghood at August 08, 2024 09:45 AM (NpAcC)
Posted by: redridinghood at August 08, 2024 09:39 AM (NpAcC)
"Tell me"
- - Lone Waddie
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 08, 2024 09:46 AM (x0n13)
Posted by: redridinghood at August 08, 2024 09:46 AM (NpAcC)
Posted by: Random Disney Writer at August 08, 2024
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Because they tortured, killed, and skinned an entire family and kidnapped young Natalie Wood?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 08, 2024 09:46 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at August 08, 2024 09:46 AM (MDua2)
Both shows were masterminded by the same guy, one Sam Rolfe; so I'm not surprised.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
The landmark 1903 film The Great Train Robbery ended with a guy pointing his gun at the audience and firing. Supposedly, people ducked and fainted, thinking that the bullet would actually come through the screen and hit them. People hadn't quite figured movies out at that early date.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 09:47 AM (v6JzV)
Posted by: nurse ratched, certified weirdo at August 08, 2024 09:47 AM (WYTai)
That's what John Ford told Steven Spielberg.
Posted by: Pete in Texas at August 08, 2024 09:48 AM (BHrzb)
Posted by: Heavy Meta at August 08, 2024 09:45 AM (NgqoH)
My mother-in-law was recently watching some documentary that told the tales about those peaceful Comanches that lived in harmony with everyone.
Posted by: NR Pax at August 08, 2024 09:48 AM (OPGS/)
Why yes, he is named in honor of Samuel Colt.
*Stands, removes head covering*
I asked him.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 08, 2024 09:48 AM (WXNFJ)
Native Americans? You meant Injuns right?
Posted by: Ciampino - call a spade a spade at August 08, 2024 09:48 AM (qfLjt)
Well, they were white, so I'm sure they had it coming.
Posted by: Random Disney Writer at August 08, 2024 09:48 AM (/y8xj)
Posted by: Ben Had at August 08, 2024 09:48 AM (nDGMq)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 09:49 AM (v6JzV)
But then, I've read all of Louis L'Amour's books.
And just finished watching the three Man with no Name movies.
I've heard it said, the western movie is the most American of stories, completely unique to the United States.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 08, 2024
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I need to try more of LA; I've only read Hondo and The Haunted Mesa (a modern-day SF Western). Loren D. Estleman and Elmore Leonard are the champs for me. Not surprising that both moved on to write hardboiled crime fiction. That genre and the Western are a LOT alike.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 08, 2024 09:50 AM (J2vNu)
*Stands, removes head covering*
At our last house, two different neighbors had dogs named Remington and Kimber.
Posted by: Oddbob at August 08, 2024 09:50 AM (/y8xj)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 08, 2024 09:50 AM (1Nxff)
A time when everything men did revolved around gaining land and steady pussy.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 08, 2024 09:38 AM (Zz0t1)
I read that out loud in the style of Al Swearengin from Deadwood.
Then I added "now where's my drink, ya loopy c*nt?!"
Posted by: Doof at August 08, 2024 09:51 AM (RhGG0)
Posted by: Ben Had
September will be nice.
October will be fantastic.
Still too hot in august.
Posted by: nurse ratched, certified weirdo at August 08, 2024 09:51 AM (toZgo)
Posted by: NR Pax
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Any documentary that does not use primary sources as its basis is fraudulent. Professional bloviators are available to hire for cheap for any sort of distorted propaganda piece but it is more risky for a documentarian to falsify quotes from primary sources.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 09:51 AM (qdbNv)
Posted by: NR Pax at August 08, 2024
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Yeah, right. The Apaches were frightening to white settlers, and with good reason . . . but the Apaches were scared of the Comanches.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 08, 2024 09:51 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 09:52 AM (v6JzV)
Posted by: Don Black at August 08, 2024 09:52 AM (/7KEl)
Posted by: Kris at August 08, 2024 09:52 AM (EwaUh)
After enlarging the painting, I am further impressed by how Schreyvogel used the dark and light areas of the horses to bring out their musculature and the sheen of their coats, especially the one on the left. It reminds me of Some of Remington's paintings and Robert Bateman. Bateman painted very flat upon close inspection. Back up a little and the figures pop out of the canvas and seem to have incredible detail. Amazing.
Posted by: JTB at August 08, 2024 09:52 AM (zudum)
Posted by: Ciampino
Redskins
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 09:49 AM (v6JzV)
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Shame on your paleface guilt. SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 08, 2024 09:52 AM (K/1/x)
Triple Hay - a limerick
Said the horse soldier Corporal Dan Hubble,
"Hop on, Bunkie, we'll have to ride double!
I'll reward your persistence
With some roadside assistance
Since it seems you've had a bit of Injun trouble!"
Posted by: Muldoon at August 08, 2024 09:53 AM (uCfKO)
Well, they were white, so I'm sure they had it coming.
Posted by: Random Disney Writer
Coming to Pixar soon, "They Had it Coming." A fun filled story of how the peaceful natives were forced to skin a white family to remove their white privilege.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 09:53 AM (qdbNv)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 09:52 AM (v6JzV)
That's not how it works!
- Eliz Warren
Posted by: Doof at August 08, 2024 09:53 AM (RhGG0)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 08, 2024 09:53 AM (z89cs)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
“The corridor…had a smell of old carpet and furniture oil and the drab anonymity of a thousand shabby lives.”
and
“She lowered her lashes until they almost cuddled her cheeks and slowly raised them again, like a theatre curtain. I was to get to know that trick. That was supposed to make me roll over on my back with all four paws in the air.”
Posted by: Tonypete at August 08, 2024 09:53 AM (WXNFJ)
It's amazing the things you learn about people like that when you get out of school.
Posted by: NR Pax at August 08, 2024 09:53 AM (OPGS/)
Both did most of their work out of studios located on the East Coast. To be fair, Remington was a prima donna. I like this genre
and period of American Western themed art. I can say the same thing for the photography taken out west too as both captured essential part of American history as it disappeared. I once knew an artist that worked in this genre and he was quite successful at it. He was also a cokehead and after seeing him crank out genre scene after genre scene while high as hell it all sort of got tedious.
https://tinyurl.com/3fzsy4xd
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at August 08, 2024 09:53 AM (rIBZP)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2024 09:54 AM (HnUIn)
Posted by: m at August 08, 2024 09:54 AM (64Zez)
Posted by: NR Pax at August 08, 2024 09:54 AM (OPGS/)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 09:54 AM (v6JzV)
He was still telling an American story.
That's the point, there is no other story type like the western.
Even when you do the usual hero arc analysis, it's still American.
BTW, The Good, the Bad and the Weird out of Korea is a good take; worth watching.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 08, 2024 09:54 AM (t6DGO)
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 09:53 AM (qdbNv)
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That will fill up the theaters in blue cities. Lotsa of money making opportunities for scalpers.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 08, 2024 09:54 AM (K/1/x)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 08, 2024 09:54 AM (z89cs)
Posted by: m at August 08, 2024 09:54 AM (64Zez)
and
“She lowered her lashes until they almost cuddled her cheeks and slowly raised them again, like a theatre curtain. I was to get to know that trick. That was supposed to make me roll over on my back with all four paws in the air.”
Posted by: Tonypete at August 08, 2024
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I recognize the second one; it's from one of the Philip Marlowe stories by Chandler. The first one is too?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 08, 2024 09:55 AM (J2vNu)
People hadn't quite figured movies out at that early date.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 09:47 AM (v6JzV)
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A great (great?) grandparent apparently would yell out at the hero not to go that way as the bad guys were waiting (silent movies).
There's the joke about the two old guys walking by the movies and one says
"Let's go in."
"But you've seen this film already 5 times?"
"Yes but I want to see if he's learnt his lesson and doesn't ride through the gulch into that ambush this time."
Posted by: Ciampino - The Movies #01 at August 08, 2024 09:55 AM (qfLjt)
See? The Germans were right to shut down all of their nuke plants after Fukushima.
Posted by: andycanuck (i0CiB) at August 08, 2024 09:55 AM (i0CiB)
and
“She lowered her lashes until they almost cuddled her cheeks and slowly raised them again, like a theatre curtain. I was to get to know that trick. That was supposed to make me roll over on my back with all four paws in the air.”
Posted by: Tonypete at August 08, 2024
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I recognize the second one; it's from one of the Philip Marlowe stories by Chandler. The first one is too?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 08, 2024 09:55 AM (J2vNu)
These are both tons of fun.
Posted by: m at August 08, 2024 09:56 AM (64Zez)
O. M. G.
The horse semen thing is real.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 08, 2024 09:53 AM
Crap. I was hoping it was BS.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 08, 2024 09:57 AM (RKVpM)
https://www.holidayscalendar.com/
Posted by: Kris at August 08, 2024 09:57 AM (EwaUh)
Nothing to worry about though. Trump has a plan.
Posted by: Way it is at August 08, 2024 09:57 AM (wyszq)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 08, 2024 09:54 AM (z89cs)
Uh, hmmm, yeah, that's a bit disturbing. Glad he's in 'stable' condition.
Posted by: Heavy Meta at August 08, 2024 09:57 AM (NgqoH)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 09:57 AM (v6JzV)
Posted by: Biden's Dog
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I saw what you did there. Well played.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 09:57 AM (qdbNv)
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Oddly, no victims. I lived on Kailua beach when we had a tsunami warning. There were parties on the roofs of all the beach houses. Total tsunami was a 6 inch rise at Pearl Harbor. Great parties, though.
Posted by: Pudinhead at August 08, 2024 09:58 AM (FmapG)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2024 09:58 AM (HnUIn)
Posted by: Kris at August 08, 2024
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Hondo is a good bet. The Haunted Mesa is set in the (then) modern-day Four Corners area, and suggests in a science-fictional way what might have happened to the Anasazi people, who lived in cliff dwellings and then vanished some centuries before the Spaniards got here.
Those are the two I remember reading. Others may have different suggestions.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 08, 2024 09:58 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 08, 2024 09:58 AM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 09:54 AM (v6JzV)
Hmmm -- I actually wasn't tracking to that. I kinda remember seeing it and mentioning it last year and thus began the raft of shit I've been taking here ever since. No worries -- I'll stick to music and bourbon. And being obtuse.
Posted by: Doof at August 08, 2024 09:59 AM (RhGG0)
Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 08, 2024 09:59 AM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 08, 2024 09:53 AM (z89cs)
Seriously?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 08, 2024 09:59 AM (nR2nR)
Posted by: Dave in Fla
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The perverts we will always have among us.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 09:59 AM (qdbNv)
The horse semen thing is real.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 08, 2024 09:53 AM (z89cs)
I briefly worked with a weirdo whose previous job before that one involved loading jugs of horse semen into the cargo holds of airplanes.
And he loved to talk about it.
Posted by: XTC at August 08, 2024 09:59 AM (UnA8+)
Posted by: Ben Had at August 08, 2024 09:59 AM (nDGMq)
It's amazing the things you learn about people like that when you get out of school.
Posted by: NR Pax
The Chiricahua Apaches just opened a gas station on I-10, near Deming, on the way to Arizona from Las Cruces. The story goes that around 1837 the Chihuahua Mexican Governor hired a bunch of renegade Americans to go scalp all the Apaches. They were quite successful at this which the Apaches adopted readily as a form of flattery one might conclude.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at August 08, 2024 09:59 AM (rIBZP)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2024 09:58 AM (HnUIn)
Is it Thursday already? where does the week go?
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at August 08, 2024 09:59 AM (pIfcn)
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at August 08, 2024 10:00 AM (0pcfw)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 08, 2024 09:53 AM
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The stuff night mares are made of.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 08, 2024 10:00 AM (K/1/x)
Posted by: Pudinhead at August 08, 2024 10:00 AM (FmapG)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2024 09:58 AM (HnUIn)
Are you new here?
Posted by: m at August 08, 2024 10:00 AM (64Zez)
I'd like to see/visit the American Wing of the Met Museum of Art. I was also born in "Lenapehoking" and spent childhood wading in the Muckinipattis & Darby Creeks to the Delaware River.
Thanks.
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at August 08, 2024 10:00 AM (NFX2v)
Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 08, 2024 10:00 AM (RKVpM)
Posted by: Oglebay at August 08, 2024 10:00 AM (ogTiX)
Hi Kris,
So many possibilities. Off the top of my head:
Jubal Sacket
The Sackett Brand
Ride the River
Down the Long Hills
Flint
The Walking Drum (not a western)
I'm sure there will be many suggestions from the folks here.
Posted by: JTB at August 08, 2024 10:00 AM (zudum)
Posted by: Oddbob at August 08, 2024
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Those would be good cat names too.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 08, 2024 10:00 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Doof
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Whoever created the game should have given it a different name.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 10:00 AM (qdbNv)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 08, 2024 10:01 AM (JvZF+)
Posted by: jewells45fuckcancer at August 08, 2024 10:01 AM (iF0sF)
Posted by: Don Black at August 08, 2024 10:01 AM (/7KEl)
Posted by: XTC at August 08, 2024 09:59 AM (UnA8+)
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So that's how cloud seeding works!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 08, 2024 10:01 AM (K/1/x)
OK, family story time. One of my great to somethingth power grandfathers had his daughters stolen by the Cherokee. He ended up leading a daring nighttime raid to get them back, and successfully did one of them... and the Cherokee girl that was with her that he mistook for her sister in the chaos. He then apparently shrugged, said, "Close enough" and raised her as his own.
Posted by: American Hawkman at August 08, 2024 10:01 AM (skAOD)
Posted by: Don Black at August 08, 2024 10:02 AM (/7KEl)
And I mean that literally. I cannot fathom it. It defies reason, and critical thinking.
To believe the current polling means you have to believe the following:
1. Trump was never popular; Biden really did win 200 bajillion votes in 2020
2. After everyone saw how shockingly bad (really very popular) Biden looked at the debate, they realized he couldn't be prez so they all swung to Trump, despite his not being popular, remember.
Curiously, what we DIDN'T see was a lot of "undecided" in the polling after the debate. Instead we saw huge swings to the supposedly unpopular Trump. You'd think, if it was really all about Biden and if people really were sick Trump going back to 2020 (as Kamala's polling seems to imply), then the deterioration of Biden would simply have provoked a bunch of "we don't know who to vote for" responses to pollsters. But no, it was "I'm all in on Trump"
Those two ideas do not coalesce with critical thinking.
Posted by: Shenanigans at August 08, 2024 10:02 AM (lcyZw)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 08, 2024 09:54 AM
Tell me that real? Lie to me if you must
Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at August 08, 2024 10:02 AM (MIaMI)
The horse semen thing is real.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 08, 2024 09:53 AM (z89cs)
I briefly worked with a weirdo whose previous job before that one involved loading jugs of horse semen into the cargo holds of airplanes.
And he loved to talk about it.
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Was his name Dick Wrangler?
Posted by: Pudinhead at August 08, 2024 10:02 AM (FmapG)
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 10:02 AM (qdbNv)
They may work cheaply but they're never out of work.
Posted by: Oddbob at August 08, 2024 10:02 AM (/y8xj)
OK, family story time. One of my great to somethingth power grandfathers had his daughters stolen by the Cherokee. He ended up leading a daring nighttime raid to get them back, and successfully did one of them... and the Cherokee girl that was with her that he mistook for her sister in the chaos. He then apparently shrugged, said, "Close enough" and raised her as his own.
Posted by: American Hawkman at August 08, 2024 10:01 AM (skAOD)
+++++
"And that's why I've always said, son don't go near the Indians, please stay away"
Posted by: Oglebay at August 08, 2024 10:03 AM (ogTiX)
Posted by: Ribbed at August 08, 2024 10:03 AM (Ectld)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 08, 2024 09:54 AM (z89cs)
Your future V.P., ladies and gentlemen........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 08, 2024 10:03 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Kris at August 08, 2024 10:03 AM (EwaUh)
Posted by: American Hawkman at August 08, 2024
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Neat. I guess the Cherokee girl was young enough to adapt to white culture?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 08, 2024 10:03 AM (J2vNu)
Those two ideas do not coalesce with critical thinking.
Posted by: Shenanigans
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Forget it Jake, Its Poll Town.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 10:03 AM (qdbNv)
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 08, 2024 10:03 AM (S6gqv)
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 10:00 AM (qdbNv)
You're not wrong
Posted by: Doof at August 08, 2024 10:03 AM (RhGG0)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 08, 2024 10:01 AM (JvZF+)
But Vance f*cked a couch!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 08, 2024 10:04 AM (Zz0t1)
And he loved to talk about it.
Posted by: XTC at August 08, 2024 09:59 AM (UnA8+)
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When the story first came out on X yesterday, there were no Community Notes. I don't see any here, either.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 08, 2024 10:04 AM (K/1/x)
Posted by: Oglebay at August 08, 2024 10:04 AM (ogTiX)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 08, 2024 09:53 AM
Also from "The Pope of Greenwich Village."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 08, 2024 10:04 AM (x0n13)
What had been obvious "to the rest of us" for years, is finally official: late last night, shares of Warner Bros. Discovery, the parent of CNN and TNT, crashed 10% to the lowest level on record after it reported dire results, which missed across the board and plunged across every income statement category...
... but the biggest hit - and surprise - was the company's stunning $9.1 billion charge taken to write down the value of its traditional TV networks, such as CNN and TNT, which were acquired in 2022 when Warner Bros Discovery was created as part of its acquisition of WarnerMedia.
Posted by: SMOD at August 08, 2024 10:04 AM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 08, 2024 10:04 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: fd at August 08, 2024 10:04 AM (vFG9F)
Jewells! Glad to see you here. You are in our daily prayers.
Posted by: JTB at August 08, 2024 10:05 AM (zudum)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 08, 2024 10:05 AM (DF9vG)
Posted by: fd at August 08, 2024 10:04 AM (vFG9F)
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"The Dead Man Sees" sounds like a noir premise.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2024 10:05 AM (HnUIn)
Not a western, but Last of the Breed is one I re-read every 5 years or so.
And if you've read Empire of the Summer Moon, you know why the Comanche were so hated and feared.
Nobel savage is pure romanticism bullshit.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 08, 2024 10:06 AM (t6DGO)
Posted by: Kris at August 08, 2024
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I have to say I don't know any of Grey's works. Just the title Riders of the Purple Sage, which as a '96 movie starred Ed Harris as the hero. I watched part of it on Grit last week and thought it well done.
You can hardly go wrong with Elmore Leonard's Hombre and Estleman's White Desert.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 08, 2024 10:06 AM (J2vNu)
Curiously, what we DIDN'T see was a lot of "undecided" in the polling after the debate. Instead we saw huge swings to the supposedly unpopular Trump. You'd think, if it was really all about Biden and if people really were sick Trump going back to 2020 (as Kamala's polling seems to imply), then the deterioration of Biden would simply have provoked a bunch of "we don't know who to vote for" responses to pollsters. But no, it was "I'm all in on Trump"
*****
And now that Kamala is in the race, those same people are swinging to her, and she is apparently pulling in people who previously supported Trump even BEFORE the debate with Biden, despite doing literally nothing since winning the nomination.
Nothing about it passes the smell test. It all feels astroturfed and fake.
Posted by: Shenanigans at August 08, 2024 10:06 AM (lcyZw)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 10:06 AM (v6JzV)
There are two Hondos, one in Texas and one New Mexico. The new Mexican edition is located at a junction in the road that takes you to Billy the Kid land in Lincoln, New Mexico or due West to Ruidoso where you can hang out with Rich Texans.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at August 08, 2024 10:06 AM (rIBZP)
Posted by: It's me donna at August 08, 2024 10:06 AM (IyPmt)
Posted by: Kris at August 08, 2024 10:03 AM (EwaUh)
He's no Ebenezer Zane.
Posted by: BignJames at August 08, 2024 10:07 AM (AwYPR)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 08, 2024 10:07 AM (Zz0t1)
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Well, it came from some French guy. What did you expect?
Posted by: Pudinhead at August 08, 2024 10:07 AM (FmapG)
Posted by: jewells45fuckcancer at August 08, 2024 10:07 AM (iF0sF)
Posted by: Oddbob
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Dunno about that. Lots of paring of faculty hiring and going to adjuncts is happening in academia due to falling enrollments, the media is paring jobs because the ads are going away, etc. Tik Tok is also killing the attention span which in turn kills any audience for documentaries.
Propaganda kills its own audience after awhile and we have been propaganda central since Clinton. People are tired of it and turning it off.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 10:07 AM (qdbNv)
Posted by: Ciampino - The Movies #02 at August 08, 2024 10:07 AM (qfLjt)
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 08, 2024
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It could also be that they didn't want the background distracting you from the well-defined figures.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 08, 2024 10:07 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 08, 2024 10:07 AM (z89cs)
Posted by: XTC
What was the purpose of that?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 10:08 AM (v6JzV)
I'm
Posted by: Oddbob at August 08, 2024 10:08 AM (/y8xj)
She was. Which did not stop her from marrying a man who was half-Cherokee later in life, interestingly.
That side of my family is filled with interesting stories like that. Not long before, one of the great-uncles had been hanged by the Confederate Army. He wasn't IN it at the time... they were just horrified by his little hobby of taking women into the forest and coming back with nothing but a shrug and felt it was the right thing to do.
Posted by: American Hawkman at August 08, 2024 10:08 AM (skAOD)
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CNBC poll just dropped. Trump +2
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 08, 2024 10:07 AM (z89cs)
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Let's just average them together and blow up the margin for error to get closer to the truth!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:08 AM (GBKbO)
But I've never been particularly fond of cowboy and western paintings. It's odd. I've been exposed to a lot of it and I can appreciate at some level (as I do with this example), but it just doesn't move me.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2024 10:08 AM (HnUIn)
Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 08, 2024 10:08 AM (RKVpM)
Posted by: jewells45fuckcancer at August 08, 2024 10:08 AM (iF0sF)
*1-MC announcement to the crew*:
All Hands, attention to the Plan of the Day:
Fuck Cancer. Repeat, Fuck Cancer.
That is all.
/1-MC.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 08, 2024 10:08 AM (u82oZ)
https://www.holidayscalendar.com/
Posted by: Kris
👍 👏👏
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at August 08, 2024 10:08 AM (NFX2v)
Congratulations. We're all on Team Kamala now, your work here is done.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 08, 2024 10:09 AM (nR2nR)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 08, 2024 10:09 AM (u82oZ)
Hold Fast
Posted by: Don Black at August 08, 2024 10:09 AM (/7KEl)
Suggested by one of the X comments.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 08, 2024 10:09 AM (K/1/x)
What had been obvious "to the rest of us" for years, is finally official: late last night, shares of Warner Bros. Discovery, the parent of CNN and TNT, crashed 10% to the lowest level on record after it reported dire results, which missed across the board and plunged across every income statement category...
... but the biggest hit - and surprise - was the company's stunning $9.1 billion charge taken to write down the value of its traditional TV networks, such as CNN and TNT, which were acquired in 2022 when Warner Bros Discovery was created as part of its acquisition of WarnerMedia.
Posted by: SMOD
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Even today, the markets eventually reduce something to its true value. Propaganda is worth nothing if there is no audience.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 10:09 AM (qdbNv)
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Are you talking about Kenya?
Posted by: Pudinhead at August 08, 2024 10:09 AM (FmapG)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 08, 2024 10:06 AM (t6DGO)
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It isn't about the savages, it's about the civilized. "Who are you to spoil the savages' innocence with your advanced white man ways?"
It was an early form of moral relativism.
Though they may have a point when it comes to the internet.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2024 10:09 AM (HnUIn)
Congratulations. We're all on Team Kamala now, your work here is done.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 08, 2024 10:09 AM (nR2nR)
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He did get me.
I'm voting for Pat Buchanan.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:09 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Ciampino
I always found WWI more interesting than WWII. Also, you can't really understand WWII without knowing WWI.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 10:10 AM (v6JzV)
Posted by: Ciampino - The Movies #03 at August 08, 2024 10:10 AM (qfLjt)
Joey doubts peaceful transition if Trump loses.
Shive your incendiary rhetoric you peadophile
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 08, 2024 10:10 AM (Z4Wwh)
Biden and Harris are two separate people.
Democrats weren’t going to vote for Biden because he is a senile decrepit man. But they’ll happily vote for Kamala. Trump support didn’t change. What changed is dissatisfied Dems are now back in.
Can Trunp still win? Sure. But something needs to change and fast for that to happen.
Posted by: Way it is at August 08, 2024 10:10 AM (5GuJc)
I'm voting for Pat Buchanan.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:09 AM (GBKbO)
Pat Paulsen for me
Posted by: It's me donna at August 08, 2024 10:10 AM (IyPmt)
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Don't forget the Bond films - Audience getting the bullets perspective as Bond draws and shoots
Posted by: Frodob at August 08, 2024 10:10 AM (GJIcO)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 08, 2024 10:10 AM (oCJJq)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 08, 2024 09:54 AM (z89cs)
Why would there be quotation marks around the headline?
Posted by: spindrift at August 08, 2024 10:11 AM (OguvZ)
https://is.gd/MiXjz3
Growing up, I remained truely patriotic even while embracing the hippy dippy peace love dope ethic that coming of age in the late sixties naturally led to.
Probably the strongest reason for this was that I believed in my very sole that the American justice system was reactive, not proactive, despite the risks. I believed that this was because of the Constitution, and the correct action in light of the whole innocent until proven guilty thing. I had my share of run ins with the police, but never without cause. Our police were not Stasi.
Man, those days are so far gone.
Posted by: From about That Time at August 08, 2024 10:11 AM (4780s)
You have to take into account that our culture is heavily influenced by astoturf and fakery. That's not to say that Harris is definitely winning, but people don't care about issues or economy or reality. It's all about Orange Man Bad versus the virtue signal to the alleged poor and down trodden.
Posted by: Ribbed at August 08, 2024 10:11 AM (B0mGw)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 08, 2024 10:04 AM (x0n13)
Never saw it. Should I?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob, now with more crankiness at August 08, 2024 10:11 AM (VwAA8)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 08, 2024 10:01 AM (JvZF+)
Even so, he should be forced to deny it. Which would piss off a good bit of the base.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 08, 2024 10:11 AM (nR2nR)
Posted by: SMOD at August 08, 2024 10:04 AM (RHGPo)
Warner has problem with streamers competing with the vestigial networks, but the real problem is debt. Warner took the debt off AT&T's books when it spun off. That debt, as I recall, is the debt from the Time Warner/AOL deal that has been carried through M&A. It helped turn AT&T into a value trap for ten years.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at August 08, 2024 10:11 AM (pIfcn)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
I have a lot of faults Alteria, but ingratitude isn't one of them. I owe you a lot. Hell, I know I'm a prima donna — I admit it! What I can't stand about Schreyvogel is he won't admit it.
Posted by: Frederic Remington, channeling George Patton at August 08, 2024 10:11 AM (JCZqz)
Looks and reads fake Dave. Very fake.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 08, 2024 10:01 AM (JvZF+)
I'd say fake. 100% sure of this.
Posted by: m at August 08, 2024 10:11 AM (64Zez)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Well, it is sort of like putting horse shit (in honor of the painting) into a casserole filled with good beef, wholesome veggies, etc. and claiming the result produces a meal fit for a king.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 10:11 AM (qdbNv)
Posted by: XTC
What was the purpose of that?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
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Fertilization. If we're talking race horses it's big biz and $$$. Saudi's are into the horse racing thing bigly.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 08, 2024 10:11 AM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Dirty Frank at August 08, 2024 10:11 AM (Zjodb)
Posted by: Oddbob
Yep. Also, the language is wrong for the times. No one back then said "the family requests privacy . . . . ". That is a more recent bit of meaningless drivel.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 08, 2024 10:11 AM (WXNFJ)
I had ASSUMED this was another couch f'in thing. But I wasn't expecting that newspaper clipping.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 08, 2024 10:12 AM (z89cs)
Posted by: Ben Had at August 08, 2024 10:12 AM (nDGMq)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 08, 2024 10:12 AM (x0n13)
You have to take into account that our culture is heavily influenced by astoturf and fakery. That's not to say that Harris is definitely winning, but people don't care about issues or economy or reality. It's all about Orange Man Bad versus the virtue signal to the alleged poor and down trodden.
Posted by: Ribbed at August 08, 2024 10:11 AM (B0mGw)
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Except she was unpopular before. Biden was unpopular before the debate. They were being dragged down because of fundamentals.
And now it's all been cast aside because someone already on the ticket is now on top of the ticket while none of the fundamentals have changed.
The idea that the public is going through huge swings in support from one candidate to the next is nonsense.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:12 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: jewells45fuckcancer at August 08, 2024 10:12 AM (iF0sF)
Posted by: Don Black at August 08, 2024 10:12 AM (/7KEl)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 08, 2024 10:12 AM (Z4Wwh)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 10:10 AM (v6JzV)
Bite me!
- Archduke Ferdinand
Posted by: Doof at August 08, 2024 10:12 AM (RhGG0)
Let’s see more of those
Posted by: Way it is at August 08, 2024 10:13 AM (5GuJc)
Posted by: nurse ratched, certified weirdo at August 08, 2024 10:13 AM (5yGIt)
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at August 08, 2024 10:13 AM (Da7Vv)
Posted by: Bilwis
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AT&T has never had a coherent corporate strategy since Ma Bell monopoly broke up. Conglomerates suck as a business strategy and eat up investor tears (and their money).
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 10:13 AM (qdbNv)
Posted by: nurse ratched, certified weirdo at August 08, 2024 10:14 AM (5yGIt)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 08, 2024 10:12 AM (x0n13)
Thanks. May be a good blast from the past.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob, now with more crankiness at August 08, 2024 10:14 AM (VwAA8)
Knew a guy who said he went to the San Diego Zoo one time and he was at the gorilla enclosure when this woman walked up with gloves on and started jerking the gorilla. Gorilla just put his arms up on the bar above his head and enjoyed the moment.
Posted by: Ribbed at August 08, 2024 10:14 AM (B0mGw)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:12 AM (GBKbO)
democrats will vote for anything with a (D) next to it. They don't change their minds. If you ran Pile of Dogshit(D), it would still get 95% of the democrat vote.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 08, 2024 10:14 AM (DF9vG)
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 10:11 AM (qdbNv)
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Ah...kings...
When young princes could spend their days with corpulent, jovial knights of low character without having to concern themselves with the maintenance of the realm...
No, my good lord, banish Peto, banish Bardolph, banish Poins, but for sweet Jack Falstaff, kind Jack Falstaff, true Jack Falstaff, valiant Jack Falstaff, and therefore more valiant being as he is old Jack Falstaff, banish not him thy Harry’s company, banish not him thy Harry’s company. Banish plump Jack, and banish all the world.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:14 AM (GBKbO)
I choked on the word 'overingesting" - which I don't think is a legit word a newspaper would use.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 08, 2024 10:14 AM (RKVpM)
Posted by: Ribbed at August 08, 2024 10:11 AM (B0mGw)
How dare you?!?
- Internet "influencers" everywhere
Posted by: Doof at August 08, 2024 10:15 AM (RhGG0)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 08, 2024 10:14 AM (DF9vG)
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Same with partisan Republicans.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:15 AM (GBKbO)
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It's a pull-quote and not a headline.
Posted by: andycanuck (i0CiB) at August 08, 2024 10:15 AM (i0CiB)
Are you talking about Kenya?
Posted by: Pudinhead at August 08, 2024 10:09 AM (FmapG)
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I spent 9 months of the year in Kenya because that's where the (boarding) schools were. My parents and sister lived in Uganda and then Tanganyika so I had a lot of travel, mostly choo-choo train or air. 10 years of that.
Posted by: Ciampino - The Movies #04 at August 08, 2024 10:15 AM (qfLjt)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 08, 2024 10:15 AM (t6DGO)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 10:10 AM (v6JzV)
Yup.
I got into WWI primarily because it wasn't taught that much. I knew almost nothing about it and was curious. Fascinating and important era.
Posted by: Kris at August 08, 2024 10:16 AM (EwaUh)
Posted by: XTC
What was the purpose of that?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
They were all addressed to Kalorama, weirdly.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 08, 2024 10:16 AM (2ocoG)
Posted by: Ribbed
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Considerable evidence that is not true. Unless you go into the polling fundamentals,especially who and where they are polling, then you are essentially accepting the media's word on it.
Trump, for example, almost never led in 2016 and 2020 had him down by large percentages throughout 2020.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 10:16 AM (qdbNv)
But there was a very definite "Anyone but Biden or Trump" vibe in the polling that may be coming out. And the activists are now motivated and the propaganda presses are turning and voters are idiots. There is excitement in the Dem base that wasn't there a month ago and it's a mistake to ignore that.
Posted by: Ribbed at August 08, 2024 10:16 AM (Ectld)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:15 AM (GBKbO)
True, but they are a lesser percentage. The democrats have just recently elected 2 dead people.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 08, 2024 10:17 AM (DF9vG)
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Don't forget the Bond films - Audience getting the bullets perspective as Bond draws and shoots
Posted by: Frodob at August 08, 2024
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True. HGWT predated that -- but who knows if the title designers ever saw that show.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 08, 2024 10:17 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Starving Artists Motel Art at August 08, 2024 10:17 AM (CV8a5)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at August 08, 2024 10:17 AM (rIBZP)
Democrats weren’t going to vote for Biden because he is a senile decrepit man. But they’ll happily vote for Kamala. Trump support didn’t change. What changed is dissatisfied Dems are now back in.
Can Trunp still win? Sure. But something needs to change and fast for that to happen.
Posted by: Way it is at August 08, 2024 10:10 AM (5GuJc)
So Trump needs to win over dissatisfied dems?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 08, 2024 10:17 AM (KbCG3)
Sun is dark orange this morning. Canada must be on fire again.
Posted by: nurse ratched, certified weirdo at August 08, 2024 10:13 AM
Looks 95% USA based. Link is to Ventusky air quality map:
https://t.ly/UYGcP
Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 08, 2024 10:17 AM (RKVpM)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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I tend to think of Chimes at Midnight here rather than Henry IV.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 10:18 AM (qdbNv)
Posted by: Ribbed at August 08, 2024
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As who wouldn't've . . .?
Did Mr. Gorilla learn how to do it himself next time?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 08, 2024 10:18 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: mrp at August 08, 2024 10:18 AM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: Kris at August 08, 2024
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Hondo is a good bet. The Haunted Mesa is set in the (then) modern-day Four Corners area, and suggests in a science-fictional way what might have happened to the Anasazi people, who lived in cliff dwellings and then vanished some centuries before the Spaniards got here.
Those are the two I remember reading. Others may have different suggestions.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 08, 2024 09:58 AM (J2vNu)
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So many good ones, but the Sackett series might be my favorite.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 08, 2024 10:19 AM (ELIwR)
Posted by: Oglebay at August 08, 2024 10:19 AM (ogTiX)
Point of order. Motel 6s don't even have lobbies, much less free breakfast. You need to upgrade to at least a Best Western for that.
Posted by: Oddbob at August 08, 2024 10:19 AM (/y8xj)
Posted by: Zombie Catherine the Great at August 08, 2024 10:19 AM (v6JzV)
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 10:13 AM (qdbNv)
I was all aboard for the transition into a streaming service tied to the phone business as means to micro target ads in a way that other streamers couldn't. Netflix doesn't know where you were all day. T could have told McDonalds which customers went to a fast food place and how often, etc.
It's wild invasion of privacy, but in simple dollars and cents, lucrative. But they effed up the execution. The division was going to be called Xander, and has since been sold off with the other tv assets.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at August 08, 2024 10:19 AM (pIfcn)
.. this guy returns with the regularity of an unwanted season
Posted by: SMOD at August 08, 2024 10:19 AM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Ribbed
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And how do you know of such excitement? The media tells you about it. What do we know about the media? See also Gell Mann amnesia effect.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 10:19 AM (qdbNv)
Posted by: Oddbob at August 08, 2024 10:20 AM (/y8xj)
Good read except for the non-pertinent footnotes talking about racism in the US Army.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 08, 2024 10:20 AM (Z4Wwh)
Seems like it was pretty routine. I can't imagine a woman who publicly masturbates a gorilla every month or so is having normal, healthy relationships, though.
Posted by: Ribbed at August 08, 2024 10:20 AM (Ectld)
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 10:18 AM (qdbNv)
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I watched it last night. It's top of mind.
We have heard the chimes at midnight, Master Shallow.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:20 AM (GBKbO)
And yet, his VP, who was so unpopular she dropped out almost immediately in 2020, somehow became more popular while serving under the guy who was such a disaster they had to jettison him.
I guess it makes sense if you squint your ears real hard.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 08, 2024 10:21 AM (KbCG3)
Seems like it was pretty routine. I can't imagine a woman who publicly masturbates a gorilla every month or so is having normal, healthy relationships, though.
Posted by: Ribbed at August 08, 2024
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Oh -- he *recognized* her, maybe! That's even better.
"Here comes my favorite female almost-a-gorilla . . ."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 08, 2024 10:22 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 08, 2024 10:21 AM (KbCG3)
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Just believe every poll uncritically.
Even if they contract each other.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:22 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Crazytown! at August 08, 2024 10:22 AM (CV8a5)
I refer you back to the astroturf and fakery. And the vibe has changed on other sites. Harris has successfully hit the main stream and Trump is nowhere to be seen nationally. All the focus is on her.
Posted by: Ribbed at August 08, 2024 10:22 AM (Ectld)
Point of order. Motel 6s don't even have lobbies, much less free breakfast. You need to upgrade to at least a Best Western for that.
Posted by: Oddbob at August 08, 2024 10:19 AM (/y8xj)
Since COVID, even that's if-y. Many motels now will have a toaster and coffeemaker, if your lucky.
Posted by: Kris at August 08, 2024 10:23 AM (EwaUh)
Posted by: XTC
What was the purpose of that?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
To transport the semen to a distant place. But that's not important right now.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 08, 2024 10:23 AM (WXNFJ)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 08, 2024 10:21 AM (KbCG3)
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Just believe every poll uncritically.
Even if they contract each other.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:22 AM (GBKbO)
Frankly Elaine, I'm a bit concerned.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 08, 2024 10:23 AM (KbCG3)
1. Austrian Archduke assassinated by Serbian with government connections
2. Much harrumphing by Austria, followed by harrumphing by Germany. Russia harrumphs in response, as does France
3. Four years of war
4. Germany loses
The End
4.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 08, 2024 10:23 AM (WBQfF)
We have heard the chimes at midnight, Master Shallow.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Orson did a good movie version of that Scottish play as well.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 10:24 AM (qdbNv)
Posted by: Don Black at August 08, 2024 10:24 AM (/7KEl)
Artifical insemination is safer than natural cover for breeding livestock. Thus collecting, storing and transporting semen is a big business.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 08, 2024 10:24 AM (1Nxff)
Good read except for the non-pertinent footnotes talking about racism in the US Army.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 08, 2024 10:20 AM (Z4Wwh)
Concur.
Posted by: mrp at August 08, 2024 10:24 AM (rj6Yv)
I wanted to talk to her about how this affected her love life, but i chickened out. I was very shy back in the day.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 08, 2024 10:24 AM (u82oZ)
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 10:24 AM (qdbNv)
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And Othello. Very different approaches.
Macbeth he had money. He could do long takes.
Othello he had no money. He had to piece it together from tiny bits...over three years of production (he filmed his part in The Third Man during a break as a way to help raise funds to keep the production of Othello going).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:25 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: SMOD at August 08, 2024 10:25 AM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Ribbed at August 08, 2024 10:25 AM (Ectld)
They put Tulsi Gabbard on the terrorist watch list. I’ll bet Naomi Wolfe is there too. Fukkin imbeciles.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 08, 2024 10:25 AM (sZDR4)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 08, 2024 10:25 AM (1Nxff)
Austria loses
Russia loses
Bulgaria loses
Romania loses
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 08, 2024 10:25 AM (1Nxff)
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Everyone lost WWI.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:26 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at August 08, 2024 10:26 AM (rIBZP)
Posted by: Oddbob at August 08, 2024 10:26 AM (/y8xj)
Scratches
Looks around
Dang. Well just a big YeeHaa! For the mornings art.
Goes looking for coffee.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 08, 2024 10:26 AM (W/lyH)
Posted by: Kris
As mentioned above, The Walking Drum is not a Western, but it's an interesting and fun story. It's a 12th century historical fiction, traveling throughout much of Europe and the Middle East, as I recall...
Posted by: Military Moron at August 08, 2024 10:27 AM (JCZqz)
Posted by: andycanuck (i0CiB) at August 08, 2024 10:27 AM (i0CiB)
"Here comes my favorite female almost-a-gorilla . . ."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Some of these aliens scare me but this one - well, I think we've reached an understanding. Can't take her home to Ma though.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 08, 2024 10:27 AM (WXNFJ)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:26 AM (GBKbO)
Except Lenin
Posted by: mrp at August 08, 2024 10:27 AM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: Ribbed
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Please, you have not answered how you know about how other people feel and react. The obvious answer is that you are reading it or hearing it from someone else.
Be specific in your answer as to the basis for your beliefs. What you most likely are doing is making assumptions based on third party information and drawing inferences from that data.
Unless you, yourself, are a pollster and you are discussing your own polling.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 10:27 AM (qdbNv)
Posted by: Moonbeam at August 08, 2024 10:27 AM (rbKZ6)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:26 AM (GBKbO)
++++
Even we did, after a fashion. It was our first experiment with full-scale fascism.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2024 10:27 AM (HnUIn)
Air power
Armor
Chemical weapons
Posted by: Don Black
Also, the whole effing Middle East mess can be traced back directly to that war.
And the effing Soviet Union, too.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 10:28 AM (v6JzV)
Posted by: mrp at August 08, 2024 10:28 AM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 08, 2024 10:28 AM (RTIKe)
Fuck Cancer. Repeat, Fuck Cancer.
That is all.
/1-MC.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 08, 2024 10:08 AM (u82oZ)
Thread winner.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 08, 2024 10:29 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: nurse ratched, certified weirdo at August 08, 2024 09:47 AM (WYTai)
TELL me about it. Every day this week I've told myself I'm going to take a sick (mental health) day tomorrow. And, every day, by about 10:00 a.m., I'm like, I SHOULD'A taken a mental health day today.
Posted by: Lady Who Always Has a Burning Question at August 08, 2024 10:29 AM (JCLJi)
Posted by: Crazytown! at August 08, 2024 10:22 AM (CV8a5)
The late Mrs Doof was the only one who was ever successful at that
Posted by: Doof at August 08, 2024 10:29 AM (RhGG0)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Forget he did Othello as well. Not one of my favorite Shakespeare plays. Iago is one of the great villains in Shakespeare but the play in some ways is a greater tragedy than Hamlet.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 10:31 AM (qdbNv)
Posted by: rhennigantx at August 08, 2024 09:32 AM (gbOdA)"
Soooo, the wild west equivalent of one of your vehicles being disabled and the ensuing chinese fire drill to stuff everyone back into a running set of wheels. Got it.
Posted by: somedood at August 08, 2024 10:31 AM (x7EYr)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at August 08, 2024 10:31 AM (rIBZP)
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 10:31 AM (qdbNv)
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Part of me wishes he had done a Lear (maybe Branaugh will do one some day), but his character wasn't really built for it, I don't think.
He was perfect for Falstaff. His Othello (as actor) was not his greatest moment.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:32 AM (GBKbO)
The horse semen thing is real.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 08, 2024 09:53 AM (z89cs
No. Way. ...Right?
Posted by: Lady Who Always Has a Burning Question at August 08, 2024 10:32 AM (JCLJi)
Posted by: whig
But, unusually for Shakespeare, the villain is still alive at the end of the play.
I never got Hamlet. Severely overrated, if you ask me.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 10:32 AM (v6JzV)
They reached out to his team and they responded with "Kamabla."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 08, 2024 10:33 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at August 08, 2024 10:33 AM (hKoQL)
Posted by: American Hawkman at August 08, 2024 10:34 AM (skAOD)
Are you talking about Kenya?
Posted by: Pudinhead at August 08, 2024 10:09 AM (FmapG)
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I spent 9 months of the year in Kenya because that's where the (boarding) schools were. My parents and sister lived in Uganda and then Tanganyika so I had a lot of travel, mostly choo-choo train or air. 10 years of that.
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Interesting. I tried to process out of the Marines in Hawaii in order to catch a Space Available flight to either Thailand or Philippines. My plan was to travel through Burma, India and end up in Kenya (I had a shit ton of leave on the books). Hawaii had a rule that all service men had to be discharged in CONUS rather than in Hawaii. This was a Senator Inouye move. The Japs that run Hawaii don't want any competition for jobs.
Posted by: Pudinhead at August 08, 2024 10:34 AM (FmapG)
I never got Hamlet. Severely overrated, if you ask me.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 10:32 AM (v6JzV)
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Welles starts his film version with a flashforward to the after action showing Iago being forced into a cage suspended from a tower.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:34 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 10:24 AM
And by "the Scottish play" I assume you mean MacBeth?
Posted by: Edmund Blackadder at August 08, 2024 10:34 AM (ZANHd)
Posted by: BurtTC at August 08, 2024 10:34 AM (+AFr+)
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 10:24 AM
And by "the Scottish play" I assume you mean MacBeth?
Posted by: Edmund Blackadder at August 08, 2024 10:34 AM (ZANHd)
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It has a roughly 20 minute shot in it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:34 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 10:35 AM (v6JzV)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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I am not really competent to judge his performance as I have only seen snippets of Welles' Othello. Know the play from seeing it performed and reading it.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 10:35 AM (qdbNv)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:34 AM (GBKbO)
Is that so in the sequel they can have him escape and do the whole damn thing over again?
Posted by: BurtTC at August 08, 2024 10:36 AM (+AFr+)
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 10:13 AM (qdbNv)
I was all aboard for the transition into a streaming service tied to the phone business as means to micro target ads in a way that other streamers couldn't. Netflix doesn't know where you were all day. T could have told McDonalds which customers went to a fast food place and how often, etc.
August 08, 2024 10:19 AM (pIfcn)"
ATT actually was angling to get into the top-dog big data business about 5 years ago on account of combining their own mobile data with streaming data, but too many business units flopped for them to have the cash and time to do it. They bet too much on news, HBO, and so on. However anyone who has the money to buy this info can get it from several sources. A common setup is a place like FB will share all data they get with anyone that feeds them data, and they have a BIG list of partners.
Posted by: somedood at August 08, 2024 10:37 AM (x7EYr)
And one more from Weiss on Hunter Biden business dealings with Chinese company CEFC:
“…the evidence will show the defendant performed almost no work in exchange for the millions of dollars he received from these entities.”
U.S. District Court for the Central District of California | Filed Wednesday
This tracks with what House Committee Chairs
@JamesComer
@Jim_Jordan
&
@JasonSmithMO
have been saying
Posted by: JackStraw at August 08, 2024 10:37 AM (LkLld)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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I am not really competent to judge his performance as I have only seen snippets of Welles' Othello. Know the play from seeing it performed and reading it.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 10:35 AM (qdbNv)
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There was a famous criticism of his performance that said, "Welles doesn't perform. He is photographed."
He's not a bad actor by any means, but you do get this sense that in these serious tragic roles (as opposed to serio-comic tragic roles) that he's going for Olivier-like performance without quite feeling as natural as Olivier could.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:37 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 08, 2024 10:38 AM (x0n13)
Posted by: BurtTC at August 08, 2024 10:36 AM (+AFr+)
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"Somehow, Iago has returned."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:38 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Ben Had at August 08, 2024 09:40 AM (nDGMq)
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Reminds me of a story from the Chernow biography of Ulysses S. Grant, where during the Civil War he came upon a teamster whipping his horses and was so upset by it -- as he loved horses and was famous for his horsemanship -- that he had the teamster tied to a tree for six hours as punishment.
Posted by: ShainS -- Cat Ladies for Trump & Vance! at August 08, 2024 10:38 AM (T53xy)
CNN is part of the problem... the idea that CNN is part of "the liberal media" is laughable. Their on-air joy when happily pushing the news about economic collapse was sickening.
I expect Goldberg (known to liberal bloggers as Doughy Pantload) to spew lies, but really getting sick of Tapper and Bash. After the crap job they did at the debate, they both should have been fired.
Son of Lucianne Goldberg (1935 - 2022), who was a primary shit-stirrer in the Clinton-Lewinsky impeachment saga.
Young Jonah's successful career as a spinner of conservative lies and innuendo is the ultimate in nepotism. A reward for his mother's scurrilous work for the GOP slime machine.
Facebook has been using his site as a fact check on project 2025. I posted a meme about Project 2025 and was “ fact checked” by FB which gave me a link to Goldberg site.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 08, 2024 10:38 AM (JCZqz)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 08, 2024 10:39 AM (/U5Yz)
The school years consisted of 3 terms with a 4-6 week break in between each term. So 3 trips to-and-fro each year. Lots of crazy stuff on the trains since the trip from Nairobi to Tanga (Indian Ocean) took 2.5 days and nights and boring.
Now for train enthusiasts, the train from Nairobi (6000 feet) to Uganda (much lower 2000-3000) went through a high point at Timboroa, 9000+ feet. I believe it's the highest railway station in Africa. The diesel-electrics could not make the climb so we had coal-fired choo-choos with special stacks to prevent sparks as the Timboroa region went through flammable forests of bamboo. It's almost on the equator, just 4 minutes N.
Posted by: Ciampino - The Movies #05 at August 08, 2024 10:39 AM (qfLjt)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 08, 2024 10:39 AM (cf/0E)
Posted by: Cannibal Bob, now with more crankiness at August 08, 2024 10:39 AM (VwAA8)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 10:39 AM (v6JzV)
Tom Elliott
@tomselliott
In 2007, @Tim_Walz talked to C-SPAN about his military service: "I spent 24 years in the National Guard, some of that full-time. I was an artilleryman. I deployed in support of Operation Enduring Freedom. My battalion provided base security throughout the European theater from Turkey to England in the early stages of the war in Afghanistan. And that same battalion is now in Iraq at this time."
https://is.gd/0IcSce
He called down artillery on his own position to keep from being overrun! Glory, glory hallelujah!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 problems but Vance ain't one at August 08, 2024 10:40 AM (L/fGl)
Posted by: mrp at August 08, 2024 10:40 AM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Even Olivier had his failures. I find his Henry V portrayal boring and tedious. Perhaps too much respect for the icon as king but not the actual man.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 10:40 AM (qdbNv)
Posted by: Pudinhead at August 08, 2024 10:41 AM (FmapG)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 08, 2024 10:39 AM (cf/0E)
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Well, he was a bad influence on Hal. He wasn't who Henry needed around to be king.
He was apparently originally named Oldcastle and based on another knight whose family was out of favor with the court. The family objected, and Shakespeare changed the name to Falstaff.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:41 AM (GBKbO)
Be specific in your answer as to the basis for your beliefs. What you most likely are doing is making assumptions based on third party information and drawing inferences from that data."
Look, I'm an aggregator. I naturally trend. Yes. There is some risk of being influenced by the media hype, but there's also a movement and a flow to the way these things work that pushes you in a direction. I read headlines and blogs and how things are worded and it tells you a lot about confidence and excitement.
I'm not saying anything specific except be cautious. The fact that you find that so offensive proves me right.
Your only evidence is that the polls suck and no one likes Kamala and your proof is the polls from a month ago or four years ago. You should assume you're losing until Trump is ten points ahead and Trump is not making a squeak on the national level right now. That should concern you.
American voters are idiots. They vote against their interests all the time. Quit convincing yourself you're winning until you win.
Posted by: Ribbed at August 08, 2024 10:41 AM (IHRQq)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 10:41 AM (v6JzV)
Be excellent to each other.
Except all our new trolls. Lay waste to them so hard, their ancestors are ashamed.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 08, 2024 10:42 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: whig
Inchon has entered the chat.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 10:41 AM (v6JzV)
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It's no Ishtar!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:42 AM (GBKbO)
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CNBC poll just dropped. Trump +2
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 08, 2024 10:07 AM (z89cs)
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And Rasmussen this morning: Trump +5
Posted by: WisRich at August 08, 2024 10:42 AM (G0vdT)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 10:43 AM (v6JzV)
Posted by: red speck at August 08, 2024 10:43 AM (0Id0S)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 10:43 AM (v6JzV)
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I'm not that new.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:43 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 08, 2024 10:44 AM (RKVpM)
Posted by: BourbonChicken
Henry V betrays his good buddy Falstaff. Seems cruel. Of course, I have a soft spot for indulgent fat slobs, being one myself.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 problems but Vance ain't one at August 08, 2024 10:44 AM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 10:44 AM (v6JzV)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 08, 2024 10:44 AM (KbCG3)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:34 AM (GBKbO)
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To the wifey's great chagrin, I became obsessed with tracking shots after having stumbled onto a YT video showing something like the 10 greatest film tracking shots in history (which of course included the into to "Touch of Evil."
OTOH, it was how I first discovered "Serenity" and subsequently "FIrefly" -- one of her favorite TV series.
Posted by: ShainS -- Cat Ladies for Trump & Vance! at August 08, 2024 10:44 AM (T53xy)
MSNBC: What do you think about Tim Walz lying about his military service?
Missouri Democrat Senate candidate Lucas Kunce: "I haven't been paying a lot of attention."
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 08, 2024 10:44 AM (vMxR7)
Nothing to worry about though. Trump has a plan.
Posted by: Way it is at August 08, 2024 09:57 AM (wyszq)
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I guess you're conveniently leaving out the the very latest 2(CNBC and Rasmussen) that have Trump +2 and +5. Also a bump of +5 from Rasmussen a week ago on the 5 person race.
Posted by: theATL at August 08, 2024 10:44 AM (BYfP9)
Posted by: BourbonChicken
The story is really the growth of Hal from a princeling into a king. Falstaff is basically the flip side of Iago, both are vices (from medieval morality plays). These characters exemplify flawed humans that act upon the main character to lead them astray. A future king in the case of Hal and Othello in the case of Iago. These vices work on natural human tendencies to sin but eventually the central character of the play has to either follow the vice down a dark path (Othello) or put them away (Henry IVth part II).
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 10:45 AM (qdbNv)
Posted by: Jen the original at August 08, 2024 10:45 AM (4rCFO)
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Well, it does feature Warren Beatty.
Posted by: Pudinhead at August 08, 2024 10:45 AM (FmapG)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
"Meet the new trolls,
same as the old trolls!"
Shreds on the air guitar and jumps off of the air amp.
(and that takes some doing friends!)
Posted by: Tonypete at August 08, 2024 10:45 AM (WXNFJ)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 problems but Vance ain't one at August 08, 2024 10:44 AM (L/fGl)
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As did Welles.
The end of Chimes at Midnight is a marvelously sad tragedy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:45 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Ted Torgerson Trump/Vance 2024 at August 08, 2024 10:45 AM (wGerL)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 08, 2024 10:44 AM (KbCG3)
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Has he been plagiarizing them too?
Posted by: ShainS -- Cat Ladies for Trump & Vance! at August 08, 2024 10:45 AM (T53xy)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 10:46 AM (v6JzV)
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CNBC poll just dropped. Trump +2
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 08, 2024 10:07 AM (z89cs)
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And Rasmussen this morning: Trump +5
Posted by: WisRich at August 08, 2024 10:42 AM (G0vdT)
And I bet those polls were completed before she picked "Coach"
And the Montana poll by The Hill: Sheehy +2 over Tester!
LOL
Posted by: mrp at August 08, 2024 10:46 AM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: theATL
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You are arguing with the latest incarnation of Scooggie Doogie. Best to ignore.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 10:46 AM (qdbNv)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 08, 2024 10:46 AM (/U5Yz)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 08, 2024 10:46 AM (WDJ9Z)
Election 2024: Trump 49%, Harris 44%, RFK Jr. 3%
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They were teasing that this was coming.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 08, 2024 10:46 AM (vMxR7)
OTOH, it was how I first discovered "Serenity" and subsequently "FIrefly" -- one of her favorite TV series.
Posted by: ShainS -- Cat Ladies for Trump & Vance! at August 08, 2024 10:44 AM (T53xy)
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I watched "Filming The Trial", a 90 minute Q@A Welles had at USC in the early 80s.
He explains when he could do long takes: When he had great crews and great actors.
You can do that when you have Hollywood money. You can't do that when you're scraping together cash to get the film going for another week.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:46 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Lady Who Always Has a Burning Question at August 08, 2024
***
LWAHaBQ, you are not alone.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 08, 2024 10:46 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Ribbed at August 08, 2024 10:46 AM (Ectld)
Election 2024: Trump 49%, Harris 44%, RFK Jr. 3%
Despite all the handwringing Trump's number really hasn't budged. His base is solid, not many are going to flip off him because they shit canned Joe and installed the incompetent laughing hyena.
As Axelrod said this is Trump's race to lose at this point and he isn't showing any signs of giving up.
The only way they are beating him is massive cheating.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 08, 2024 10:46 AM (LkLld)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 10:43 AM (v6JzV)
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I'm not that new.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:43 AM (GBKbO)
TJM is the RAIMONDO of MUMRs
Posted by: Doof at August 08, 2024 10:46 AM (RhGG0)
Posted by: Jen the original at August 08, 2024 10:45 AM (4rCFO)
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It's fake and gay all the way down ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Cat Ladies for Trump & Vance! at August 08, 2024 10:47 AM (T53xy)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer
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A uniter, not a divider. Just not in the way he sees himself.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 10:47 AM (qdbNv)
I thought COVID got his fatass! Must’ve been mom.
Posted by: Stale, Pale, and Male at August 08, 2024 10:47 AM (nS/0+)
Posted by: whig
Branagh's portrayal was much, much better.
Posted by: Tuna at August 08, 2024 10:47 AM (oaGWv)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:43 AM (GBKbO)
TJM is the RAIMONDO of MUMRs
Posted by: Doof at August 08, 2024 10:46 AM (RhGG0)
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I do get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:47 AM (GBKbO)
They probably think we all love him.
Posted by: Oddbob at August 08, 2024 10:48 AM (/y8xj)
.. guess maybe we need to reevaluate the definition of 'peace'
Posted by: SMOD at August 08, 2024 10:48 AM (RHGPo)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 08, 2024 10:46 AM (LkLld)
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That's always been their plan.
Posted by: WisRich at August 08, 2024 10:48 AM (G0vdT)
Posted by: Ted Torgerson Trump/Vance
I think it's very lame. Hamlet is the heir to the throne. He should've had no hesitation in overthrowing his uncle. But he was an "intellectual," so he had to overthink it.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 10:48 AM (v6JzV)
Posted by: Tuna at August 08, 2024 10:47 AM (oaGWv)
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I love Branaugh's Henry V.
He's got weird no-lips, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:48 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 08, 2024 10:48 AM (WDJ9Z)
Posted by: Ted Torgerson Trump/Vance
I think it's very lame. Hamlet is the heir to the throne. He should've had no hesitation in overthrowing his uncle. But he was an "intellectual," so he had to overthink it.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 10:48 AM (v6JzV)
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Except Denmark voted on its kings.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:48 AM (GBKbO)
Injuns...it must be injuns!
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 08, 2024 10:49 AM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Pudinhead at August 08, 2024 10:49 AM (FmapG)
They probably think we all love him.
Posted by: Oddbob at August 08, 2024 10:48 AM (/y8xj)
Fox News
Mitch McConnell
Jonah
What are three things the denizens of DU likely assume all conservatives love?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 08, 2024 10:49 AM (KbCG3)
Posted by: Doof at August 08, 2024 10:46 AM (RhGG0)
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I do get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:47 AM (GBKbO)
I still don't. Maybe I'm the Rain Man of Forrest Gumps
Posted by: Doof at August 08, 2024 10:49 AM (RhGG0)
They probably think we all love him.
Posted by: Oddbob
I'm sure they love him over at FOX News, and they're as extreme right-wing as it gets!!!
Posted by: Rabid DU poster at August 08, 2024 10:50 AM (JCZqz)
He explains when he could do long takes: When he had great crews and great actors.
You can do that when you have Hollywood money. You can't do that when you're scraping together cash to get the film going for another week.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:46 AM (GBKbO)
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That tracks (SWIDT?). But seriously, my one regret is not ever having been on the set of a great film to watch it -- behind the scenes -- actually being made.
The synthesis and coordination of all the moving parts and many facets is difficult to wrap my head around ... which I suppose is why it's truly "an art."
Posted by: ShainS -- Cat Ladies for Trump & Vance! at August 08, 2024 10:50 AM (T53xy)
https://tinyurl.com/39un3xbt
Posted by: IrishEi at August 08, 2024 10:50 AM (3ImbR)
Posted by: Doof at August 08, 2024 10:49 AM (RhGG0)
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You have many other qualities.
Like taste in bourbon.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:50 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: whig
Branagh's portrayal was much, much better.
Posted by: Tuna at August 08, 2024 10:47 AM (oaGWv)
Yes, yes, but Olivier's Hank V was Churchill-approved.
Posted by: mrp at August 08, 2024 10:51 AM (rj6Yv)
The synthesis and coordination of all the moving parts and many facets is difficult to wrap my head around ... which I suppose is why it's truly "an art."
Posted by: ShainS -- Cat Ladies for Trump & Vance! at August 08, 2024 10:50 AM (T53xy)
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And, I'm sure that your video mentioned Russian Ark, an actual one-take film through the Hermitage.
They rehearsed that for months.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:51 AM (GBKbO)
We also can't afford non-stop negativity. No good coach ever tells his team before the big game "You are probably going to lose but don't go out there and embarrass yourselves.".
Everyone here is very involved with what is going on in the country and the election. We all know Democrats cheat and lie. It's baked into our worldview on everything.
Trump is running a fine campaign. He won in 2016 and there is little doubt he won in 2020 with the most votes of any sitting president in history. He's popular despite what we are told to believe and he had a very successful 1st term that a lot of people want back.
Don't be overconfident but don't run scared either.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 08, 2024 10:52 AM (LkLld)
Posted by: ShainS -- Cat Ladies for Trump & Vance! at August 08, 2024 10:52 AM (T53xy)
Crop Report: Zucchini bread is in oven baking.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 08, 2024 10:52 AM (RKVpM)
.. guess maybe we need to reevaluate the definition of 'peace'
Posted by: SMOD
I'm most concerned about a violent backlash against the immigrant community.
Posted by: Clueless Labor Voter at August 08, 2024 10:52 AM (JCZqz)
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 10:24 AM
And by "the Scottish play" I assume you mean MacBeth?
Posted by: Edmund Blackadder at August 08, 2024
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Thre's a long tradition in the theatre of never saying the name of the play, or even quoting from it, when you're off stage. Actors are some of the most superstitious creatures on Earth, and they consider that to be bad luck. Like whistling in a dressing room is bad luck, or if you spill powder you should dance on it for good luck.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 08, 2024 10:52 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: ShainS -- Cat Ladies for Trump & Vance! at August 08, 2024 10:52 AM (T53xy)
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You had to be there.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:52 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Ribbed
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My advice is turn off the media for the next sixty or so days. Simply put, the real race begins after Labor Day and after the usual bounce from the Dem convention fades.
Polling in the summer, due to response bias (lot of people still on vacay) becomes flaky even if the pollsters involved do not have a thumb on the scales.
I have no idea who will win in November, pretty much none of us do because some of it will be events occuring, some of it will be the inevitable mistakes made by campaigns (like picking Walz is apparently), and some of it will be whatever is going on in swing states.
So no overconfidence here and people are not expressing that. I doubt anyone if you pin them down will assert that Trump will win in November (or be allowed to win for that matter). But, far too much of the evergreen demoralization op by the media every single election is repeated here needlessly.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 10:52 AM (qdbNv)
Posted by: Doof at August 08, 2024 10:49 AM (RhGG0)
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You have many other qualities.
Like taste in bourbon.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:50 AM (GBKbO)
Careful - that could be possibly construed as you saying something somewhat less than hostile to me. Could cause a disturbance in the AOSHQ sector of The Force
Posted by: Doof at August 08, 2024 10:52 AM (RhGG0)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 problems but Vance ain't one at August 08, 2024 10:53 AM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Doof at August 08, 2024 10:52 AM (RhGG0)
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But your taste in Scotch is shit.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:53 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: ShainS -- Cat Ladies for Trump & Vance! at August 08, 2024 10:52 AM (T53xy)
My obtuse mind can only remember MUMR and MUNG.
Posted by: Doof at August 08, 2024 10:54 AM (RhGG0)
Posted by: mrp
You ain't lived 'till you've seen his rendition of Hank Hill, I tell you what.
Posted by: Clueless Moron at August 08, 2024 10:54 AM (JCZqz)
Michael Keaton is hilarious.
And Kate Beckinsale...yum.
Even Emma Thompson is hot in that.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 10:54 AM (v6JzV)
Posted by: mrp at August 08, 2024 10:55 AM (rj6Yv)
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I said stop assuming the hype doesn't have a meaningful influence. Just because it's fake doesn't mean it's not effective in a culture that gets its political views from twenty year olds in their bedroom on Youtube.
Posted by: Ribbed at August 08, 2024 10:55 AM (Ectld)
They rehearsed that for months.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:51 AM (GBKbO)
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Most definitely, it was considered #1. You and I discussed it once some years ago -- and I think you enlightened me to the fact that there may be one brief break in the final cut IIRC.
But yes, I watched it in fascination (alone ... because for some reason, my wife -- who is a left-hander and far more artistic than me -- has a revulsion to my enthusiasm for tracking shots in particular and cinematography in general).
Posted by: ShainS -- Cat Ladies for Trump & Vance! at August 08, 2024 10:55 AM (T53xy)
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 10:24 AM
And by "the Scottish play" I assume you mean MacBeth?
Posted by: Edmund Blackadder at August 08, 2024
The Japanese version "Throne of Blood" is very good as well.
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at August 08, 2024 10:55 AM (AiZBA)
Posted by: Dale at August 08, 2024 10:55 AM (/y8xj)
I wanted to talk to her about how this affected her love life, but i chickened out. I was very shy back in the day.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 08, 2024 10:24 AM (u82oZ)
Bet she had a kung fu grip.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at August 08, 2024 10:56 AM (g8Ew8)
Posted by: tubal at August 08, 2024 10:56 AM (PCK5/)
You really need to up your epithet game, though, because we on the right like him even less than you do.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 08, 2024 10:56 AM (tT6L1)
But yes, I watched it in fascination (alone ... because for some reason, my wife -- who is a left-hander and far more artistic than me -- has a revulsion to my enthusiasm for tracking shots in particular and cinematography in general).
Posted by: ShainS -- Cat Ladies for Trump & Vance! at August 08, 2024 10:55 AM (T53xy)
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I haven't watched it in forever. I even upgraded my DVD to Blu-ray a couple of years ago and never watched it.
I should.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:56 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at August 08, 2024 10:55 AM (AiZBA)
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It's fucking awesome.
Kurosawa flexing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:56 AM (GBKbO)
We also can't afford non-stop negativity. No good coach ever tells his team before the big game "You are probably going to lose but don't go out there and embarrass yourselves."
I had a soccer coach that basically insinuated that. You see we were playing a team from Neshaminy PA that had some players who were both football and soccer. Coach also told us scouts were probably going to be in attendance. The players he was most concerned about were a couple of brothers named Matt and Chris.
Can you guess the rest?
Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 08, 2024 10:57 AM (RKVpM)
Posted by: whig
Race....Labor Day...wearing white? The dog whistles are bullhorns at this point with you people!!!
Posted by: Rabid Liberal Looking for Race Outrage click bait at August 08, 2024 10:57 AM (JCZqz)
Posted by: SFGoth at August 08, 2024 10:58 AM (KAi1n)
Trump 49
Harris 44
It's not working all that well. If Trump were to win the popular vote by 5 we are looking at a massive electoral college win.
Long way to go with lots of twists and turns but it's ok to be happy when things are going well. When your opponents VP pick decides to fly into a mountain on the first day of his campaign it's a good day.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 08, 2024 10:58 AM (LkLld)
Posted by: Stale, Pale, and Male at August 08, 2024 10:58 AM (nS/0+)
Posted by: Jen the original at August 08, 2024 10:58 AM (4rCFO)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 08, 2024 10:58 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024 10:59 AM (v6JzV)
Posted by: Ribbed at August 08, 2024 10:55 AM
That’s the part that scares me.
Posted by: Moonbeam at August 08, 2024 10:59 AM (rbKZ6)
Posted by: ShainS -- Cat Ladies for Trump & Vance! at August 08, 2024 10:59 AM (T53xy)
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at August 08, 2024 11:00 AM (qUkBO)
Posted by: Ribbed
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It doesn't. Most advertising dollars are wasted as are celebutard endorsements. Even endorsements by pols don't move the needle much at all.
Most hype is designed to create a bandwagon effect which does not work if the product itself is shit. No matter how much you spend on something like an Edsel, it failed because the public is fickle and knows what it likes.
Same for political ads, most people immediately assume that pols are liars and most rely on their own personal circumstances along with past experience to base their vote upon. Yutes are probably going to continue to follow the trend since 2016. Males becoming much more conservative, females staying liberal. And so on.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 11:00 AM (qdbNv)
Michael Keaton is hilarious.
And Kate Beckinsale...yum.
Even Emma Thompson is hot in that.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024
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Is that a modern-dress version?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 08, 2024 11:00 AM (J2vNu)
It's fucking awesome.
Kurosawa flexing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:56 AM (GBKbO)
More awesome than Ran?
Posted by: mrp at August 08, 2024 11:01 AM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 08, 2024
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Same here. It's short, it's atmospheric, and the dialog is easy to follow.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 08, 2024 11:01 AM (J2vNu)
Michael Keaton is hilarious.
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And there's no improv. It's just him making the most of Shakespeare's words.
Posted by: Axeman at August 08, 2024 11:01 AM (krQz2)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 08, 2024 11:01 AM (J2vNu)
No. Kennnedy gets her mega hit, she'll be telling the studio, "See, Mega Hit. You can't fire me now, nor can I leave."
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 08, 2024 11:02 AM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
Kind of modern but not quite.
Posted by: Tuna at August 08, 2024 11:02 AM (oaGWv)
That much was clear after Obama funneled in hundreds of millions in foreign money packaged as small donations.
Posted by: somedood at August 08, 2024 11:02 AM (x7EYr)
Be happy about the poll. It's still the first one in a week and a half that shows Trump up on RCP. But scoffing at what is a pretty impressive campaign out of the starting gate from Harris is a mistake. She has managed to disconnect herself from Biden in the administration and she's neck and neck with Trump. Until he starts nailing her personally it's anyone's ball game.
Posted by: Ribbed at August 08, 2024 11:02 AM (Ectld)
It's fucking awesome.
Kurosawa flexing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 10:56 AM (GBKbO)
More awesome than Ran?
Posted by: mrp at August 08, 2024 11:01 AM (rj6Yv)
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Neck and neck. I prefer Ran, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, riding the anarchy train with John Landis at August 08, 2024 11:02 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: SFGoth at August 08, 2024 11:02 AM (KAi1n)
Posted by: Moonbeam at August 08, 2024 11:02 AM (rbKZ6)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 08, 2024 11:00 AM (J2vNu)
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I think that was Whedon.
Posted by: Axeman at August 08, 2024 11:03 AM (krQz2)
Posted by: Moonbeam
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Don't be. That is the sole purpose for the media doing this. They want you feeling powerless, afraid, and alone. Just like their leftist audiences that can only feel powerful by making others miserable.
Turn off the media unless you can do what Ace, TJM and other do which is to make fun of them and mock them. Or be earnest about it like Jackstraw, Mannix, CBD, etc.
I don't recommend being the crotchety old man yelling get off my yard like me but I have been associated professionally and personally with politics and politicians too long to be anything but skeptical about everything.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 11:04 AM (qdbNv)
Posted by: Moonbeam
Filmed in Tuscany IIRC.
Posted by: Tuna at August 08, 2024 11:05 AM (oaGWv)
Posted by: somedood
All of those contributions are probably going to kill Act Blue. Being pursued now for fraud in multiple states and the feds cannot do a damn thing to protect them from Red State AGs.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 11:05 AM (qdbNv)
Posted by: Moonbeam at August 08, 2024 11:06 AM (rbKZ6)
I think Bulg meant Much Ado about Nothing.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 11:07 AM (qdbNv)
The naysayers/doom and gloomers may want to 'Follow' Rasmussen on Twitter/X. They seem to have a good handle on the polls and the fact they're including RFK Jr makes them the best poll.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 08, 2024 11:09 AM (RKVpM)
Posted by: ShainS -- Cat Ladies for Trump & Vance! at August 08, 2024 11:11 AM (T53xy)
Posted by: Moonbeam
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Stay that way. Worry about polling more in October than now and that is part that Trump has about 45 percent of his vote locked down. Kamala, mebbe about the same or a little less. The bottom line was 38 percent still approved of Biden as prezzie just before exit and so Kamala mebbe gets a few points above that. That is why they parachuted her in place via a coup.
So the rest is going to be from actions in the swing states and you will know those by watching where the pols go instead of polling. Repeated visits to a particular state by the nominee and their vp designate are markers for a competitive state using expensive internal never released to public type campaign polls.
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 11:12 AM (qdbNv)
Posted by: whig at August 08, 2024 11:07 AM (qdbNv)
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Watched that recently (was fun to see a young Keanu) -- and was impressed by Denzel doing Shakespeare (he seemed to really be enjoying himself).
Posted by: ShainS -- Cat Ladies for Trump & Vance! at August 08, 2024 11:13 AM (T53xy)
Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 08, 2024 10:52 AM (RKVpM)
I hope you made enough for everybody.
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