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Gun Thread: First August Edition!

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Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!

Holy Shitballs! It's August! In fact, it's August 4th, 2024 and as we all know there is a longstanding Gun Thread tradition to celebrate a new gun purchase each and every August 4th, 2024!

Programming Note: I am once again way behind on my email correspondence, and I apologize. I am doing my best to catch up, so thank you for your patience!

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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FUNdamentals

Q: Weasel, are you ever going to shut up about fundamentals?
A: No. No I am not, because practicing good fundamentals is the path to shooting enlightenment.

Think I am kidding? Do you not want to be on the path to shooting enlightenment? Do you think I just harp on fundamentals to fill up space here on the thread? Well, maybe a little of that, but also because practicing fundamentals really works. As a matter of fact, I believe it is the only thing that works. Is there any possible way that focusing on fundamentals could make you worse?

You people are really beginning to piss me off by not practicing fundamentals. By not having a training plan, and I'm not talking about some big complicated thing here, all you are likely doing is randomly reinforcing bad habits. In order to reinforce good habits, you need focus, repetition, and a way to measure results. I know this is true because it worked for me and I have seen it work for many others. There are arguably a lot of things to keep in mind at first, but the sooner you start focusing on them in a logical and methodical manner, the sooner muscle memory takes over and they become second nature.

So remember; stance, grip, sight alignment and trigger mechanics. You can concentrate on the smaller component elements to each of these four, but every single time you fire a round you should be focusing on some element of fundamental marksmanship. At the end of a range session, reserve a clean target and some ammo to fire a test series. Take notes on the target with the date and any other remarks you think relevant, but particularly what you were focusing on and what you think may have gone right and wrong. Measure your progress!

Have a bad day at the range? Wondering why you took up the sport to begin with? Let me share a little-known secret; everybody has a bad day at the range from time to time, and I mean everybody. Anyone who tells you otherwise doesn't have much credibility in my book. When you can't seem to do anything right and the range babes are beginning to notice, STOP what you are doing. Let me repeat that. If what you are doing is not working, stop and try something else. In all my years spent shooting, I have never once seen a shooter improve a bad result by executing poor fundamentals harder or faster.

Stop and evaluate what is going on. Put your aggravation or embarrassment aside, analyze what you are doing and re-focus your thoughts. Take a break if you need to. Without firing, mentally walk through the fundamental elements of stance, grip, sight alignment and trigger mechanics. I absolutely guarantee you the problem is in there somewhere.

Next week: FUNdamentals!

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Guns of Weasel
Last Sunday I asked if anyone was familiar with the Kimber Micro 9 because I had just placed an order for one. A normal person does their research and seeks the opinions of others before buying, but where is the element of fun and surprise in that? Anyhoo, I picked up the gun at my FFL last week and here it is, the 9mm 7+1 round (w/ extended mag) Kimber Micro 9 Raptor in stainless steel.

Here is a link to a Shooting Illustrated review., and some pics of my actual firearm, below.

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For comparison, here is a photo with my 6+1 round Sig P238 in .380ACP

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The Sig is definitely a titch smaller, and the loaded Sig is approximately the same weight as the unloaded Kimber. I didn't go all scientific and use a scale, but that's about how it feels to me. Why did I get the Kimber you ask? I dunno, I suppose I had the idea in my head for a pocket 9mm for some time, and figured it was time to get at least something off the list. I carry the Sig a lot, whether slipped into a front pocket or in my laptop bag when I go to the office. As soon as I make it to the farm-o for a workout I will let you know how it did. In the meantime, here are a couple of video reviews:

And potentially some reasons why you don't want one.

I have a sort of unrelated question all y'all. You will note in the left side photo of the Kimber above I fuzzed out part of the firearm serial number. Why did I do that? I really have no good answer, other than gun people seem to become hysterical when they see photos of guns with serial numbers visible. Why is that? I am fairly certain that at some point Smith & Wesson, or Colt, or Ruger have made firearms with the serial number 123456 so why is a series of numbers on a gun such a closely guarded secret? How could that possibly be used against you? I get the point with Social Security Numbers and Nuclear Launch Codes and so forth, but have never been sure why a firearm serial number in a picture is such a big deal. I'm pretty sure my TV has a serial number and I really don't care if anyone knows what that is, so what is up with guns?

If anyone has thoughts on the matter, please comment below!

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Olympic Shooting
An explanation of Olympic rifle shooting by a gurl.

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Gun Store Customers

Lots of good stuff here.

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Uh Oh

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Shipping Containers
Interesting!

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Space Probe Taurus!

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Gun Basics 101

Space Available! I think SEH Gal's video posting has become too intermittent to warrant a regular feature. Any suggestions?

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Cigar of the Week

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This week our pal Diogenes scores again with this excellent review of the Montecristo Pilotico

Have you ever sat down with a bunch of friends, shooting the shit, having a good time, and some of them brought other friends, some of whom you kinda know slightly? And as it goes you find yourself volunteered to help one of these other friends with some task? You really don't want to but agreed to it. It's not a small thing, but not that big a deal either. You get it done and you are glad you helped, but know that you will never do that again?

Well, here is the MonteCristo Pilotico.

MonteCristo has a fantastic name and reputation in the cigar world. Typically one of the best out there. The Pilotico is not one of the top shelf offerings. Good? Sure, but not one I will go out and buy.

Why? This is a medium yet robust smoke, featuring an Ecuadorian Sumatra wrapper, Dominican binder, and a blend of both Nicaraguan and Dominican Pilotico filler tobaccos. Strong flavors of the tobacco with a leather flavor with a bit of sweet nuttiness in the background. Well crafted, although mine had an uneven ash and a hot burn. It was OK, but just didn't ring my chimes, as it were. Depending on your source, they run about $10 a stick. Enjoy if you must.

Excellent, Diogenes! Thank you very much!!

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Here are some different online cigar vendors. You will find they not only carry different brands and different lines from those brands, but also varying selections of vitolas (sizes/shapes) of given lines. It's good to have options, especially if you're looking for a specific cigar.

Cigarsinternational.com
Cigarpage.com
Famous-smoke.com
Cigarsdaily.com
Neptunecigar.com
Smallbatchcigar.com
Bobalu Cigar Company
Cigarbid.com
Nicks Cigar World New!

A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid

Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!


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Ammo Link-O-Rama
I'm really very seriously not kidding around anymore. Buy Ammo
AmmoSeek - online ammo search tool
GunBot - online ammo search tool
SG Ammo
Palmetto State Armory
Georgia Arms
AmmoMan
Target Sports USA
Bud's Gun Shop
American Elite Ammo NEW!

***Mail Bag***

This week's mailbag entry is from our pal Hrothgar. Great one!

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Please note the new and improved protonmail account gunthread at protonmail dot com. An informal Gun Thread archive can be found HERE. Future expansion plans are in the works for the site Weasel Gun Thread. If you have a question you would like to ask Gun Thread Staff offline, just send us a note and we'll do our best to answer. If you care to share the story of your favorite firearm, send a picture with your nic and tell us what you sadly lost in the tragic canoe accident. If you would like to remain completely anonymous, just say so. Lurkers are always welcome!

That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Weasel at 07:00 PM




Comments

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1 FULL SPEED AHEAD!!!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 04, 2024 07:00 PM (0XVad)

2 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at August 04, 2024 07:00 PM (fwDg9)

3 My job is done, now to the content.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 04, 2024 07:01 PM (0XVad)

4 My phone just isn't having new threads.
Made up a couple more blank cartridges with my home made black powder, now question is when do I try it?

Posted by: Skip at August 04, 2024 07:02 PM (fwDg9)

5 Wow, another one!

Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 07:06 PM (AWrpC)

6 Scuba dude it's you and me I guess

Posted by: Skip at August 04, 2024 07:06 PM (fwDg9)

7 now question is when do I try it?
Posted by: Skip at August 04, 2024 07:02 PM (fwDg9)

Got any geese handy?

Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 07:07 PM (AWrpC)

8 Hello, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at August 04, 2024 07:07 PM (yRXSd)

9 Just doing blank to test the black powder. No bullet.
It would, or should be a Whooof than a crack

Posted by: Skip at August 04, 2024 07:09 PM (fwDg9)

10 I have never once seen a shooter improve a bad result by executing poor fundamentals harder or faster.

Practice doesn't make perfect. Practice makes permanent. PERFECT practice makes perfect. GOOD practice makes BETTER.

Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 07:10 PM (AWrpC)

11 Whoop whoop!!
Made it in time to say hi. Hello everybody!

Posted by: 10 Gallon Hat at August 04, 2024 07:10 PM (eUsLv)

12 I'm here too although don't have anything to report. I did get a couple of ammo deliveries so pretty well stocked at this point.
Just dreaming about Texas....
Soon

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 04, 2024 07:10 PM (t/2Uw)

13 Happy August horde...nice looking gub Weasel. Look forward to hearing a report on how it behaves at the farm-o. I have nothing to report this week, unfortunately. Recovering from the latest flu, so spared everyone at the range from any unwanted germs.

Posted by: Grateful at August 04, 2024 07:11 PM (IQ6Gq)

14 I started watching the Olympic rifle video, but can't tell the size of her watch or even if she was wearing a watch. Maybe the issue is that she's British.

Posted by: TRex at August 04, 2024 07:11 PM (IQ6Gq)

15 Weasel, I like the look of the Kimber you have over the Sig. Looking forward to hearing your review of said piece.

No range report but I did start the process of acquiring a Sig Sauer 1911 XFull in .45.

I mailed in the authorization form to the NYPD letting them know that I would like to get this firearm. Now the wait to see if they Yay or Nay. On the form they said it would take 6-8 weeks.
It takes this long because they only issue purchase authorizations Monday thru Thursday between 9am and Noon.

Do not know about you but that sounds like a lot of infringing.

Will keep you posted.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 04, 2024 07:11 PM (0XVad)

16 I did watch some of the pistol competition of the olympics.
The Turkish guy was a kick, a bit of a slouch, one hand in his pocket. No optical gear other than the sights.
He took the silver.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 04, 2024 07:12 PM (MeG8a)

17 Good evening gub threaders and all the ships at sea. I've pre-written some comments!

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 04, 2024 07:13 PM (V5dm6)

18 For horde members that missed the gub content on the hobby thread yesterday:

In 1939, the U.S. War Department contracted the Singer Sewing Machine Company to build 500 1911A1s. The contract, Educational Order W-ORD-396, was a test to see if Singer could produce 100 guns a day, a number it thought was doable. The War Department got its handguns, serial number series S800001-S800500, but the company was unable to live up to the pace of 100 guns a day.

The War Department realized Singers pistols were of such high quality that the company was qualified to do more important work, and that Singer's expert machines abilities would have been wasted on mere handguns.

Washington put the Singer Company to work on aviation-related components that required precision machining, particularly navigation and targeting equipment. During the war, Singer produced components for the Sperry T-1 bomb sight, B-29 bomber gunfire control computers, directional gyro and artificial horizon instruments, and automatic pilot parts.

Posted by: TRex at August 04, 2024 07:13 PM (IQ6Gq)

19 Space Probe Taurus (1965)
Hey! Taurus is a gun company! You got one of these to double up!

Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 07:13 PM (AWrpC)

20 sra blaster and I went to the range 2 more times this week because at the DMV MGC last Sunday she seemed to have lost her shooting mojo. So we went back to find out why she couldn't hit the target anymore. After a couple extra range visits we came up with wrist fatigue - she started out good but got gradually less good and the more she tried to fix it, the worse it got.

I think I'm going to have her hit the wrist weight room.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 04, 2024 07:13 PM (V5dm6)

21 Here you go Scubs. Just for you.
https://tinyurl.com/ma5nr29u

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 04, 2024 07:13 PM (t/2Uw)

22 We wanted to check out equipment while at the range. Maybe we needed new guns!

I had researched 2011s. I'm all about value priced firearms. The cheapest 2011 right now is a Girsan Witness 2311. Our range had one for rent.

BLUF - it was crap. I had read a review where they said it had a 7 lb SA trigger. Yep. A heavy trigger on a 1911ish pistol. Had a few FTFs/stovepipes. A cheap dot. And it did not shoot well.

And then I went to the other end of the spectrum - a Stealth Arms Platypus. All aluminum frame. A nice holosun dot on it. It shot very well. And then I looked at the magazine. It was a...Glock? Yes, this thing takes G17 mags! Putting a Glock mag into a 1911ish pistol felt...wrong. But also good! A lot of the mags for 2011s are proprietary or expensive or most likely both. Still - Glock mags in a 1911. Chills.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 04, 2024 07:14 PM (V5dm6)

23 15/
you not only have to bring it in within 3 days of receipt, you also have to get their consent to get it in the first place? Has this process ever been challenged? Certainly should be....

Posted by: Grateful at August 04, 2024 07:14 PM (IQ6Gq)

24 Okay, content: Read. Thanks, Weasel!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 04, 2024 07:16 PM (tT6L1)

25 The Turkish guy was a kick, a bit of a slouch, one hand in his pocket. No optical gear other than the sights.
He took the silver.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 04, 2024 07:12 PM (MeG8a)

Yeah, he became more of a viral phenomenon afterwards than the Korean guy with all the funky glass lenses and stuff. I think you would have to say he was good at the fundamentals.

Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 07:16 PM (AWrpC)

26 Thanks Sharon, rub it in. ;-)

With luck, I might be able to buy it in time for the TXMoMe

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 04, 2024 07:16 PM (0XVad)

27 Is Marylanders got some good news this week about concealed carry. We can actually carry it inside some establishments.
Might even be worthwhile to get a cc license.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 04, 2024 07:16 PM (t/2Uw)

28 Why did I pre-write comments? Because I expected I would be on the road at this time. We were organic tree farming in Florida. Then we got seven of those Weather Alerts on our phones that said you should leave.

First thought was "ehh it's only a CAT 1 that's a little baby hurricane." And then as the messages kept coming and the voluntary evac order taking place at the time we were going to leave - we figured an early exit was in order.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 04, 2024 07:17 PM (V5dm6)

29 I broke my dry spell and went to the range. I bought the new S&W bodyguard 2.0 in .380 and had to take it out to shoot.


If you carry or shoot a .380 this is a gun you need to try out. You can't compare it to the original bodyguard that had a crappy trigger, horrible sights and a six round magazine, it is a completely different gun.


The 2.0 comes with a 10 and a 12 round magazine and has a crisp trigger that breaks very nicely with a good reset. A decent front sight with a tritium insert and a longer sight radius make it way better than the original bodyguard. Couple that with a much nicer grip that I can actually wrap all of my fingers around and it is a winner.


I put over 150 rounds through it using both HP's and ball ammo and had zero issues, it fed everything I had on hand. At 7 yards the majority of my shots went into a 6 inch circle. $450 retail and well worth the price IMO.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 04, 2024 07:17 PM (QNSds)

30 I think the reason people are paranoid about showing serial numbers is if they purchased off the record. If it is all documented through an FFL then I don’t understand why it would be a problem.

Posted by: 10 Gallon Hat at August 04, 2024 07:17 PM (eUsLv)

31 Putting a Glock mag into a 1911ish pistol felt...wrong. But also good!
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 04, 2024 07:14 PM (V5dm6)

You get that with a lot of vices....

Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 07:19 PM (AWrpC)

32 Ooh. Narrow.

Posted by: andycanuck (i0CiB) at August 04, 2024 07:19 PM (i0CiB)

33 {{Scuba Dude}}
Hey, you were missed at the VaMoMe and our after party. I look forward to seeing you in Texas.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 04, 2024 07:19 PM (t/2Uw)

34 BTW, the Stealth Arms Platypus is highly customizable - mostly on cosmetics. The one at our range had some bright red trim and other snazzy looking stuff going on.

If you want a custom Platypus, current wait time is only 18 months....

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 04, 2024 07:19 PM (V5dm6)

35 Hello gun thread!

It's timely that Weasel mentioned a bad day at the range. I didn't have one of those, quite, because I fired something I liked first. But then I shot my S&W 6904, and walked away grumpy and demoralized, because the targets sucked. I realized:

I don't like it very much. It is too small for my hand and likes to poke at me during recoil.

I need a new glasses prescription, because my current one does not focus properly any more on the iron sights, so I have lots of vertical deviation.

At least my later targets were better than my earlier ones. I saw Ben Stoeger talk about how he is not picky about people's grips, as long as they do it the exact same way every time. That's not only because he has seen people succeed with wildly different approaches, but also because when he tries to correct people's grips in his classes, it messes them up every time. I can see why. It takes a while to get comfortable with any grip change.

So I probably need to tune my grip on the S&W. But not liking it, and having other pistols I like a whole lot better, is kind of an impediment.

Posted by: Splunge at August 04, 2024 07:19 PM (hmKaK)

36 23 Posted by: Grateful at August 04, 2024 07:14 PM

If I had the money for lawyers I would contemplate a couple of lawsuits against NYC and NYS gun laws.

But I don't. And in less than 5 years I am out of here.

Maybe, just maybe as I am heading out the door I will send some emails to the NYPD telling them the firearms I am going to get without their permission but not let them know I am no longer a resident. :-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 04, 2024 07:20 PM (0XVad)

37 Thanks for the content, Weasel. Your new Kimber looks The Awesome.

Posted by: scampydog at August 04, 2024 07:21 PM (41CYW)

38 Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 04, 2024 07:17 PM (QNSds)

Nice review. Thanks.

Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 07:21 PM (AWrpC)

39 Posted by: TRex at August 04, 2024 07:11 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Probably using metric time.

Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 07:21 PM (uGpeQ)

40 28 Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 04, 2024 07:17 PM

Safe travels blaster.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 04, 2024 07:21 PM (0XVad)

41 25 Yeah, he became more of a viral phenomenon afterwards than the Korean guy with all the funky glass lenses and stuff. I think you would have to say he was good at the fundamentals.
Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 07:16 PM (AWrpC)


What he says himself, and I think he's right in this, is that he's just a natural shooter. I doubt there are many of those, but that guy who became a GM after two years of shooting USPSA is another. He knew he would shoot well even before he had pulled a trigger, and decided he would try competition after he had easily established that he could shoot two inch groups at 75 yards (I might have the group size wrong).

Posted by: Splunge at August 04, 2024 07:22 PM (hmKaK)

42 33 Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 04, 2024 07:19 PM

Same Sharon, wish I could have been there. There is always next year.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 04, 2024 07:23 PM (0XVad)

43 Shipping Container video was interesting but I'm in that business so topical in my world.

Posted by: scampydog at August 04, 2024 07:23 PM (41CYW)

44 The Turkish guy was a kick, a bit of a slouch, one hand in his pocket. No optical gear other than the sights.
He took the silver.
Posted by: gourmand du jour
I actually sent the video of his shooting the air pistol to Weasel this week. I found it really interesting because he wears glasses. I shoot with a patch on my left eye and people here are always complaining about their glasses .
He calls it two eye sighting and I want to try it.
The other really impressive thing was he shoots one handed and is arm is steady as a rock.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 04, 2024 07:23 PM (t/2Uw)

45 Evening all.

No range this week as usual but I worked on more of the refinish I'm doing on my Spanish Mauser, chambered in .308.
Was used as a reenactor piece for a few years so I'm not going to shoot it. I have about 300 blank rounds for it though. I want it to be a nice looking wall hanger.
Couldn't pass it up and a buddy needed some cash for Vegas.
The .308 has me baffled. I need to dig into when this was done.
I don't think it was re-chambered, I think it's factory.

Posted by: Reforger at August 04, 2024 07:23 PM (xcIvR)

46 Yay! A Gub Thread for my birfday!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2024 07:23 PM (Wnv9h)

47 Happy Bithday, RedMind.

Posted by: scampydog at August 04, 2024 07:24 PM (41CYW)

48 Bad day at the range? Yeah, I had that back in June when I was up at the NH Mini MoMe.

My scope was jacked on my rifle so instead of moping about it I had fun in spotting and assisting others in achieving their 1000 yard dreams.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 04, 2024 07:25 PM (0XVad)

49 Happy Birthday, RMBS! I hope you celebrated in style on this fine day.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 04, 2024 07:26 PM (tT6L1)

50 weasel we have a couple of Raptor IIs (because of course we do) on the full size 1911. The Raptor is from the Kimber Custom Shop and that differs from a Kimber custom and I am probably telling you something you already knew. But anyway, from the "Custom Shop" means its actually touched by Kimber gunsmiths who work some sort of magic on it. The 50% increase in the price from the regular Micro 9 to the Raptor is not just for marketing.

I hope you enjoy it.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 04, 2024 07:26 PM (V5dm6)

51 I was going to include a vid of the guy from Turkey but the video wouldn't work when embedded.

Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 07:28 PM (uGpeQ)

52 Happy Birthday, RMBS! I hope you celebrated in style on this fine day.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 04, 2024 07:26 PM


Low key, but very good, thanks!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2024 07:28 PM (Wnv9h)

53 Happy Bithday, RedMind.
Posted by: scampydog at August 04, 2024 07:24 PM


Thanks, scamp!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2024 07:29 PM (Wnv9h)

54 Something about a Kimber....
Don't know what it is but every time I pick mine up it puts a smile on my face.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 04, 2024 07:29 PM (t/2Uw)

55 44 The other really impressive thing was he shoots one handed and is arm is steady as a rock.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 04, 2024 07:23 PM

I was watching Bloke on the Range do a video about this. They have to shoot one handed. And if you are shooting right handed you have to do something with your left hand so it is out of the way and not causing tension. Some will hook it in their belt or a coat pocket. The Turkish guy went with the cool factor and tucked it into his pants pocket.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 04, 2024 07:29 PM (0XVad)

56 Happy Birthday RMBS!!

Get anything cool for your hatch day?

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 04, 2024 07:30 PM (0XVad)

57 Shipping Container video was interesting but I'm in that business so topical in my world.

Posted by: scampydog at August 04, 2024 07:23 PM


People would be amazed at the number of random shipping containers that are floating around in the world's oceans. They break loose and fall off of ships sometimes and they do not stop to pick them up as they don't have the equipment to do that.


In the Navy we would occasionally use them as targets and sink them if they were deemed a hazard to navigation. .50 cals sink them pretty quickly.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 04, 2024 07:30 PM (QNSds)

58 Late. But I haz excuse.
Mrs. Red’s pulled pork. That is not a euphemism.

Posted by: RI Red at August 04, 2024 07:30 PM (cY9aw)

59 Maybe the Olympics has some proprietary hold on their videos.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 04, 2024 07:31 PM (t/2Uw)

60 Nobody nooded?

Ooh ooh! Mr. Weasel, Mr. Weasel! Pick me pick me!

I've finally been to the range!

Thanks to you for ordering the Micro9, that motivated me to get off my duff and go shootin'. I don't have the Raptor though.

Part I

Mine shot ok. I've never shot a 9mm that small so I can't compare it to any others of similar size.

I got the Kimber cuz I lurv me some 1911 style, and I wanted something carryable in single action.

The muzzle lift wasn't bad, but the sight picture is definitely a lot smaller with this short of a barrel.

My knowledge of Kimber before this purchase was by reputation only, and I was under the impression that these are top notch guns.
Now that I've shot this...meh. Did their quality go down, or is this just a poor implementation of a good idea?
On the plus side, I shot three different types of ammo, and they all performed well with the gun, no misfires, jams, etc...

On the minus side, I thought that the trigger pull was kind of hard, especially for a single action. Also, I had problems inserting the magazines.


Posted by: haffhowershower at August 04, 2024 07:31 PM (NMT5x)

61 Bad days at the range: If I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong within a magazine or two, I'll pack it in and come back another day after getting in some dry fires with snap caps or practice getting a good sight picture short of firing live ammo. If I'm firing rounds that run $1+ a shot, I'll pull the plug sooner.

Much of the time it's self inflicted, like shooting a pistol with blacked out front sights against a black silhouette so I can't make out the front sight against the target.

Posted by: Ed L at August 04, 2024 07:31 PM (yRXSd)

62 Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 04, 2024 07:26 PM (V5dm6)
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Yep. I'm sure I will like it. The action is pretty smooth and the trigger is nice and I'm guessing both will get better once I break it in a little.

Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 07:31 PM (uGpeQ)

63 Gee, RI Red. Why would you think we would think that?😏

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 04, 2024 07:32 PM (t/2Uw)

64 Something about a Kimber....
Don't know what it is but every time I pick mine up it puts a smile on my face.


I'm pretty happy with my Gold Match II but I still lust for a Colt NM Gold Cup. Just because.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 04, 2024 07:32 PM (/y8xj)

65 Yay! A Gub Thread for my birfday!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2024 07:23 PM (Wnv9h)

Happy Birthday to you!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 04, 2024 07:32 PM (GphIt)

66 Part Deux

The gun only came with one, and it was all metal and flush with the bottom of the grip. I purchased two other kinds, both Kimber brand, that
had different plastic pieces on the bottom. One of them had extra capacity.

Most of the time I had to push in the mag release in order to insert the mag. One time, the mag wasn't fully seated even though I thought it was.
After the first shot, the magazine dropped down about an 1/8" or so. Yikes!

I also thought the magazines were hard to load, as in putting bullets in them, but maybe that's because they are so short and the spring has to be
pretty strong?

I also shot two other pistols, so all in all it was time well spent.

Damn, it feels good to be a shootah.

Posted by: haffhowershower at August 04, 2024 07:32 PM (NMT5x)

67 Happy Birthday RMBS!!

Get anything cool for your hatch day?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 04, 2024 07:30 PM


Thanks, Scoob. Couple of books. Always welcome.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2024 07:32 PM (Wnv9h)

68 While organic tree farming did some more scoping out (SWIDT?) of the area that I think will become the blaster acres shooting range.

I had found there is actually some change in elevation on the property - for coastal Florida that's a little unusual. I mean, its only 10 or 15 feet, but considering how flat the rest is, that's considerable.

When I first saw it I thought well the rise is in the wrong direction - the higher area that I thought might be a backstop berm would require you to shoot where people are. Which is not idea.

But as we walked it down there is a pretty significant length of this slight elevation. And it looks like it is better to shoot DOWN the hill (I know 10 or 15 feet calling it a hill is funny). Which puts it in the correct direction.

Gonna need a forestry mulcher. weasel that would make a great video in one of the gun threads of the future.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 04, 2024 07:33 PM (V5dm6)

69 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 04, 2024 07:32 PM

Thanks, AOP!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2024 07:33 PM (Wnv9h)

70 I like that Patton finished Fifth in the 1912 Olympics Pentathlon and probably would have medaled but he insisted on using his .38 instead of the .22 . He finished 21st in the shooting competition.

Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2024 07:33 PM (B1dzx)

71 RMBS, Happy Birthday and a glass raised in your honor

Posted by: Ben Had at August 04, 2024 07:34 PM (5MvGY)

72 Mrs. Red’s pulled pork. That is not a euphemism.
Posted by: RI Red at August 04, 2024 07:30 PM


This place...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2024 07:34 PM (Wnv9h)

73 In the Navy we would occasionally use them as targets and sink them if they were deemed a hazard to navigation. .50 cals sink them pretty quickly.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 04, 2024 07:30 PM (QNSds)

One would think there might be some salvage opportunities.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 04, 2024 07:35 PM (GphIt)

74 lol Weasel, that's my method of buying as well; I want! I buy!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at August 04, 2024 07:35 PM (UWgy2)

75 So, range report: Yesterday was KYL and 1,000 yard MOA. Both of which were won by me. Which isn't saying much because there were only two other competitors. However, as long as someone doesn't question me to closely, I've some dandy medals to show off.

Okay, truth be told, winning the KYL took a bit of shooting. The guy I beat out did a fine job with a total score of 34, I think it was. (I believe the max score is 51) I managed to pull a 46 with a handicap as my last two targets were only 2" wide. because the guy ahead of me destroyed the 4th target which was replaced with another 2" target. This meant I was shooting at a 2" wide target twice in row.

The thousand yard portion, well, two rounds on target, out of 10, was aggravating but enough for a win. My fault, though, because I didn't bring enough of the right kind of ammo for that distance. Lesson learned.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 04, 2024 07:35 PM (tT6L1)

76 Happy DOB, RMBS!

Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 07:35 PM (uGpeQ)

77 RMBS, Happy Birthday and a glass raised in your honor
Posted by: Ben Had at August 04, 2024 07:34 PM


Thanks. Back at ya, Ben Had!

*raises glass*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2024 07:35 PM (Wnv9h)

78 Happy DOB, RMBS!
Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 07:35 PM


Thanks, brother!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2024 07:36 PM (Wnv9h)

79 Just saw a short video 1,500 containers fall into the ocean every year to be abandoned, no retrieval is even tried. Most eventually sink, those that don't and found can be a treasure trove

Posted by: Skip at August 04, 2024 07:37 PM (fwDg9)

80
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at August 04, 2024 07:35 PM (UWgy2)
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*fistbump!*

Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 07:37 PM (uGpeQ)

81 So I probably need to tune my grip on the S&W. But not liking it, and having other pistols I like a whole lot better, is kind of an impediment.
Posted by: Splunge

I am familiar with that particular pistol and 3rd Generation Smiths in general. First, check to see if the grip actually fits your hand. Shooting a DA/SA requires using the power crease in your trigger finger joint--you do not use the pad of your trigger finger. So your grip on the pistol must match the power crease reach on the trigger while also keeping the bones in your forearm straight.

Robertson's Trading Post (on ebay or they have their own website) have straighter grips that are a bit more narrow in circumference than the original Delrin Smith grips for this particular pistol.

If you have big hands and your trigger finger sticks past the power crease--consider Hogue Grips for the 6906 as they beef them up and absorb recoil better.

Posted by: whig at August 04, 2024 07:37 PM (qdbNv)

82 RBMS if you were here I'd cover you with peanut butter and jelly and then tear open a pillow over you.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 04, 2024 07:37 PM (V5dm6)

83 I wish I could opine on the micro, Weasel, but, alas, I have no experience with the firearm. The Micro definitely looks good, though.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 04, 2024 07:37 PM (tT6L1)

84 Nice post, Weasel, and timely. I stepped into a gun store for the first time in 17 years this weekend. Things haven't changed much, except that the new fad seems to be the new optical sights on handguns. I bought a box of Corbon 125 gr +P 9mm even though I don't own a 9mm, yet. I'm starting to get that itch again

Posted by: mrp at August 04, 2024 07:37 PM (rj6Yv)

85 Happy Birthday RMBS. Say Hi to Mom from me.
I did get to talk Cruise with her the last time you were here.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 04, 2024 07:38 PM (t/2Uw)

86 In the Navy we would occasionally use them as targets and sink them if they were deemed a hazard to navigation. .50 cals sink them pretty quickly.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 04, 2024 07:30 PM (QNSds)

One would think there might be some salvage opportunities.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 04, 2024 07:35 PM


Navy warships don't have the recovery gear to bring them onboard.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 04, 2024 07:38 PM (QNSds)

87 Japanese rifleman versus Turkish handgunner...

https://tinyurl.com/4x9aetuu
photos

Posted by: andycanuck (i0CiB) at August 04, 2024 07:38 PM (i0CiB)

88 RBMS if you were here I'd cover you with peanut butter and jelly and then tear open a pillow over you.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 04, 2024 07:37 PM


That's...oddly specific.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2024 07:39 PM (Wnv9h)

89 RE: serial numbers

I think it's mainly about privacy. Also makes Bob's job harder to ID you (hi Bob!). Also, some Nefarious BIG might have a hook up at a 3 letter agency and look up your SN.

Posted by: haffhowershower at August 04, 2024 07:39 PM (NMT5x)

90 That's...oddly specific.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2024 07:39 PM (Wnv9h)
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Yer saying he knows you better than he should?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 04, 2024 07:40 PM (tT6L1)

91 We love pics of firearms with serial numbers, particularly when we can tie them to their owner, for that gun register we're totally not keeping, because that would be against the law.

Posted by: BATFE at August 04, 2024 07:40 PM (OxqmL)

92 79 Most eventually sink, those that don't and found can be a treasure trove
Posted by: Skip at August 04, 2024 07:37 PM

With my luck I would salvage the one loaded with perishable items.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 04, 2024 07:40 PM (0XVad)

93 Happy Birthday RMBS. Say Hi to Mom from me.
I did get to talk Cruise with her the last time you were here.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 04, 2024 07:38 PM


Thanks, Sharon. Will do. She's stoked for the cruise. 3 weeks from today!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2024 07:40 PM (Wnv9h)

94 My knowledge of Kimber before this purchase was by reputation only, and I was under the impression that these are top notch guns.
Now that I've shot this...meh. Did their quality go down, or is this just a poor implementation of a good idea?
....


Posted by: haffhowershower at August 04, 2024 07:31 PM (NMT5x)


Kimber is one of the largest producers of 1911 pistols in the US. Most of those are "mass market" and are probably just mostly okay. If you spring for one of their Custom Shop guns you can definitely tell the difference.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 04, 2024 07:40 PM (V5dm6)

95 S&W have come out with their Bodyguard 2.0. Basically the same size but now with 10 mag and a new 5 lb trigger .

I hate my original BG but I also hate they are making me consider buying their 2.0 now.

Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2024 07:40 PM (B1dzx)

96 *fistbump*

Happy birthday, RMBS!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at August 04, 2024 07:40 PM (UWgy2)

97
I had a pleasant surprise this past week. One of my Eagle Scouts contacted me to ask if I would be one of his vouchers for him to acquire a concealed carry permit here in Delaware. I willingly did so, only to learn, when he stopped by to pick up my completed form, that he had followed my example and purchased a manual transmission vehicle.

The influence one has without knowing of it ...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 04, 2024 07:41 PM (xG4kz)

98 That's...oddly specific.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2024 07:39 PM (Wnv9h)


You never got a birthday like that?

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 04, 2024 07:41 PM (V5dm6)

99 Happy birthday, RMBS!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at August 04, 2024 07:40 PM


Thanks, sock!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2024 07:41 PM (Wnv9h)

100 Brisket sandwich!

Posted by: Eromero at August 04, 2024 07:42 PM (LHPAg)

101 In the Navy we would occasionally use them as targets and sink them if they were deemed a hazard to navigation. .50 cals sink them pretty quickly.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 04, 2024 07:30 PM (QNSds)

One would think there might be some salvage opportunities.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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20s weigh about 4400lbs empty. 40HC about 9000. I get the question somewhat regularly about what happens when a stack blows off a ship and people are mind blown when I tell them that the lines leave / abandom them (as Muster Scott mentioned).

Posted by: scampydog at August 04, 2024 07:42 PM (41CYW)

102 You never got a birthday like that?
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 04, 2024 07:41 PM


I can honestly say, no. No, I haven't.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2024 07:43 PM (Wnv9h)

103 S&W have come out with their Bodyguard 2.0. Basically the same size but now with 10 mag and a new 5 lb trigger .

I hate my original BG but I also hate they are making me consider buying their 2.0 now.

Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2024 07:40 PM


See my review of the S&W bodyguard 2.0 at #29.


You are going to want to buy one.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 04, 2024 07:43 PM (QNSds)

104 The War Department realized Singers pistols were of such high quality that the company was qualified to do more important work, and that Singer's expert machines abilities would have been wasted on mere handguns.

Posted by: TRex at August 04, 2024 07:13 PM (IQ6Gq)

The Army did much the same thing in 1943 with Union Switch and Signal (US&S). The Ordinance Department rated US&S highly and commented favorably on the pistols they produced but ended up switching them over to making things like M1 Carbine parts, 4.2 inch mortar fuses, 20mm AP shells, and dial wheels for USN code machines. Singer's tooling didn't go to waste. Most of it ended up with Remington Rand, a typewriter manufacturer who would go on to make more M1911A1s than anyone else, even Colt.

Posted by: Ed L at August 04, 2024 07:43 PM (yRXSd)

105 RBMS if you were here I'd cover you with peanut butter and jelly and then tear open a pillow over you.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 04, 2024 07:37 PM


Smooth, chunky, or extra-chunky?

What flavor? And why the jamism?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 04, 2024 07:43 PM (OxqmL)

106 91 We love pics of firearms with serial numbers, particularly when we can tie them to their owner, for that gun register we're totally not keeping, because that would be against the law.
Posted by: BATFE at August 04, 2024 07:40 PM (OxqmL)


That's why the ATF guy was asking for pictures of the dead shooter in Butler PA.

Because they were looking for him in the gun register they totally aren't keeping.

With pictures, even, apparently.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 04, 2024 07:43 PM (V5dm6)

107 Speaking of bad days at the range . . .
I'm down at the farm for a few days, so I've had a range session three days in a row. The first day I stunk on ice with my EDC no matter what I tried. The next two days, spent diagnosing what I was doing wrong, were better.

I think my major problem was recoil management (grip, mainly). I did much better controlling it with my Commander-sized 9mm than with the micro 9. I think I'll make the Commander Clone my EDC once cooler weather arrives.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at August 04, 2024 07:43 PM (YqfVr)

108 Glad that there's no crazy national events this weekend, so the gun thread can just be the gun thread.

I kind of love that the Olympic shooting events have stirred up a lot of funny memes, and gotten people interested in the sports from a "oh guns are maybe cool and not scary" angle. Between the Turkish guy and the South Korean chick, it's been a fun week.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mbu3UOpFK08

Posted by: LizLem at August 04, 2024 07:43 PM (QAK8m)

109 I recall reading about a container carrying sneakers that went overboard and broke open in the process. A zillion shoes started washing up on Alaskan shores (I think) some time later. Oceanographers were able to learn some stuff about ocean currents from the distribution of shoes on the beaches.

Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 07:43 PM (uGpeQ)

110 I can honestly say, no. No, I haven't.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2024 07:43 PM (Wnv9h)


The Corps Has.

Sigh.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 04, 2024 07:44 PM (V5dm6)

111 Navy warships don't have the recovery gear to bring them onboard.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 04, 2024 07:38 PM (QNSds)

You would need something like a work boat, with a low stern and a roller and winch.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 04, 2024 07:44 PM (GphIt)

112 So, what's all this I hear about PSA buying Remington?

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at August 04, 2024 07:44 PM (7leMO)

113 I'm still laughing about the hand cannon I saw. A .500 caliber revolver.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 04, 2024 07:44 PM (5MvGY)

114 I can honestly say, no. No, I haven't.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2024 07:43 PM (Wnv9h)
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Beg to differ.

Posted by: The Other NSA Bob at August 04, 2024 07:45 PM (tT6L1)

115 Krebs, that's awesome! Congrats on passing on good things to the next gen unawares.

Posted by: LizLem at August 04, 2024 07:45 PM (QAK8m)

116 Happy B-Day, RMBS (belatedly)!

Posted by: Ed L at August 04, 2024 07:45 PM (yRXSd)

117 The .308 has me baffled. I need to dig into when this was done.
I don't think it was re-chambered, I think it's factory.
Posted by: Reforger
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It differs on those depending on whether the Army did it or it was done for the Guardia (a cross between our National Guard and State Police there). Guardia 1916 Mausers used old 7x57 barrels that were cut back at the chamber (aka requalified with new chambers cut, drilled out for the bigger 308 diameter and re-rifled.

Something similar was done in several countries using the old 1893 or 1895 Mausers and conversions of the m98 pattern as well. Chile even used Springfield 1903 A3 barrels that were chopped, rethreaded, rechambered for their carbine 7.62 conversions.

The Chilean long rifle conversions to 7.62 Nato are to be avoided as they used a sleeve in the chamber similar to the ill fated Navy 7.62 conversions of the Garand.

Posted by: whig at August 04, 2024 07:45 PM (qdbNv)

118 112 So, what's all this I hear about PSA buying Remington?
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at August 04, 2024 07:44 PM (7leMO)


PSA tried to buy Remington ammo but got outbid.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 04, 2024 07:47 PM (V5dm6)

119 I'm still laughing about the hand cannon I saw. A .500 caliber revolver.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 04, 2024 07:44 PM (5MvGY)
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WBG has (or had) one of those. It's a bug 'un!

Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 07:47 PM (uGpeQ)

120 I actually sent the video of his shooting the air pistol to Weasel this week. I found it really interesting because he wears glasses. I shoot with a patch on my left eye and people here are always complaining about their glasses .
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Much of the time it's self inflicted, like shooting a pistol with blacked out front sights against a black silhouette so I can't make out the front sight against the target.
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Tis the Black Spot, Sharon, m'lass!

Posted by: Long John Silver at August 04, 2024 07:47 PM (i0CiB)

121 Ah, Blaster, I was wondering if it was a military tradition.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 04, 2024 07:47 PM (t/2Uw)

122 Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 04, 2024 07:43 PM (QNSds)

Sorry I came in late and didn’t see your post. That’s exactly what I’ve heard.

I hate to sell any of my guns but I’ll probably sell my original BG and get the 2.0. Damn you S&W. (my fault though as I bought the original BG without shooting one first)

Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2024 07:47 PM (B1dzx)

123 Weasel - looking forward to a range report. From you!
Scoobs - great spotting, though!
RMBS - buy yerself something nice and shiny. In .45 ACP.
Sharon - you know this place.
Blake - yowza!
Everyone else - Sunday GT!

Posted by: RI Red at August 04, 2024 07:48 PM (cY9aw)

124 I'm pretty sure my TV has a serial number and I really don't care if anyone knows what that is, so what is up with guns?
Mr. Weasel, the government ain't looking to confiscate your television.

Posted by: Eromero at August 04, 2024 07:48 PM (LHPAg)

125 I'm still laughing about the hand cannon I saw. A .500 caliber revolver.

A .500 S&W was featured in an episode of the TV show Bones. The good guy used it to shoot the bad guy through a brick wall.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 04, 2024 07:49 PM (/y8xj)

126 He calls it two eye sighting and I want to try it.
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My firearms licence instructor practices that style and suggested it when discussing learning your dominant eye.

Posted by: andycanuck (i0CiB) at August 04, 2024 07:49 PM (i0CiB)

127 RI Red, 74 days.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 04, 2024 07:49 PM (5MvGY)

128 Brisket sandwich!
Posted by: Eromero at August 04, 2024 07:42 PM


Now this is something everyone can agree upon, con gusto!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 04, 2024 07:50 PM (OxqmL)

129 While at our condo in SC this week, a new sign had been posted at the guard shack at the entrance to the property: "Concealable weapons not allowed". Huh? As soon as I drive into the entrance, I am in violation of something?

I found this interesting - both in it's legality and it's ambiguity. Are long boom sticks okay? Were the owners (us) of the condos asked or informed of this new rule? Did it comport to the rules of the Board, by being properly introduced and voted upon?

After checking with a few local attorneys, I found the signage has kicked off a storm of cease and desist efforts by other owners along with other actions. We are now party to a few of those efforts against the Board.

It's a mess but the key point is - the bastids are always trying to limit your rights. Be every vigilant.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 04, 2024 07:51 PM (WXNFJ)

130 127 RI Red, 74 days.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 04, 2024 07:49 PM (5MvGY)

We've got plane tickets and reservations at the Best Western.

Doof is coming, right? I probably need to work on my alcohol tolerance, then.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 04, 2024 07:51 PM (V5dm6)

131 I’m mainly right handed but I’m left eye dominant. Sucks for right hand shooter.

Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2024 07:51 PM (B1dzx)

132 123 Posted by: RI Red at August 04, 2024 07:48 PM

Good evening Red. I was thinking about NH a bit on Friday. Was talking at work with some folks about becoming a snow bird when I retire.
Obviously I do not want to live in NY, NJ, CT or MA but NH came up as the summer alternative. And to get to my winter abode I could jump on I-95 on down to FL.

Of course PA is another consideration.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 04, 2024 07:52 PM (0XVad)

133 blaster, Doof will be there.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 04, 2024 07:52 PM (5MvGY)

134 Posted by: TRex at August 04, 2024 07:13 PM (IQ6Gq)

Interesting footnote to the Singer M1911A1 story: Harrington and Richardson (H&R), a known arms manufacturer, also got an "educational order" contract for 500 M1911A1. H&R was exiting Chapter 11 at the time and didn't get a good start like Singer did. Only 15 pistols were produced. The Army rejected all of them because they didn't have the right dimensions as specified in Army drawings. By the time the Army terminated the contract, it was early 1942. The Army gave what would have been H&R's orders to Colt instead, but it also meant that in the first year of WWII, not enough M1911A1s came off the production line to arm the rapidly growing US military.

Posted by: Ed L at August 04, 2024 07:53 PM (yRXSd)

135 Posted by: Tonypete at August 04, 2024 07:51 PM (WXNFJ)
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WeaselPolicy is to ignore rules I do not like.

Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 07:53 PM (uGpeQ)

136 Thompson Center seems to be ramping up under new ownership.

Posted by: mrp at August 04, 2024 07:53 PM (rj6Yv)

137 I recall reading about a container carrying sneakers that went overboard and broke open in the process. A zillion shoes started washing up on Alaskan shores (I think) some time later. Oceanographers were able to learn some stuff about ocean currents from the distribution of shoes on the beaches.
Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 07:43 PM (uGpeQ)
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I wonder if this event inspired the novel Crooked River by Douglas Preston and Lincoln Child. Dozens of sneakers wash up along the shore of western Florida. Each contains a severed foot. Agent Pendergast has to track them back to their source, uncovering a fair amount of weirdness along the way.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 04, 2024 07:54 PM (BpYfr)

138 WeaselPolicy is to ignore rules I do not like.
Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 07:53 PM (uGpeQ)
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Heh, earlier this year I wandered around a casino in LV CCW a full size 1911. Idiots didn't have our room ready in time so we had to wait.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 04, 2024 07:55 PM (tT6L1)

139 I'm planning to go!

Posted by: Oooohm at August 04, 2024 07:55 PM (C7Yya)

140 Good evening Red. I was thinking about NH a bit on Friday. Was talking at work with some folks about becoming a snow bird when I retire.
Obviously I do not want to live in NY, NJ, CT or MA but NH came up as the summer alternative. And to get to my winter abode I could jump on I-95 on down to FL.

Of course PA is another consideration.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 04, 2024 07:52 PM (0XVad)


I have a buddy who does that snowbird thing, winters in Florida, summers in NH. But he does it full meal deal, towing his camper each way, living in campgrounds on either end.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 04, 2024 07:55 PM (V5dm6)

141 Ben Had, keeping me focused!

Posted by: RI Red at August 04, 2024 07:55 PM (cY9aw)

142 135/
Weasel, now that's a rule I can live with!

Posted by: Grateful at August 04, 2024 07:56 PM (IQ6Gq)

143 Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 04, 2024 07:54 PM (BpYfr)
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I believe my little anecdote also proves I can read.

Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 07:56 PM (uGpeQ)

144 Good Sunday evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and a fundamental tip of the cap to our host Weasel.

No shooting this week, unfortunately, but I achieved some major GAINZZZZ in the gym, so I'll take the W.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at August 04, 2024 07:56 PM (v23vE)

145 Ooooohm, there you are. Good to see you.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 04, 2024 07:57 PM (5MvGY)

146 Some buddies had a golf trip in Williamsburg VA and we stayed in a resort timeshare.

They had a no weapons sign up.

I ignored it.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 04, 2024 07:57 PM (V5dm6)

147 Singer 1911s are the Holy Grail of collectors, and command huge prices when they are found. Only 500 were made, and now only two thousand are known to exist (he said snarkily.)

Seriously, if someone uses the words "collector's item" regarding a firearm you're interested in, you should run, not walk, away from the deal. Especially if they hint you will be able to flip said item for a profit. Fakes abound out there, with lots of unscrupulous characters willing to take advantage.

Now excuse me, I need to see a man about George A. Custer's personal 30-30 Winchester, which he left behind at camp on the way to the Little Big Horn.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at August 04, 2024 07:58 PM (p6u48)

148 Oooohm! Good to see you!

Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 07:58 PM (uGpeQ)

149 131 Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2024 07:51 PM

Same here. Only effects me shooting the rifle. I will swap back and forth on which side of the rifle I am shooting on.
I honestly feel more comfortable shooting as a lefty, it feels natural to me, but I am trying to get more comfortable shooting righty.

With the pistol right handed 100% of the time, unless doing a non dominant drill.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 04, 2024 07:58 PM (0XVad)

150 So today was my first day on my church's security team. A few of us carry of course. Churches are awful soft targets.

I think I'm going to switch over to an IWB holster though. I've got a positive lock OWB and I just feel like I'm printing super bad through my shirt. It's not the gun so much as the bulk of the holster itself.

I don't like IWB that much but I guess it wins the battle of least printing.

Anyone IWB carry? Or am I only old timer still using an OWB?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 04, 2024 07:59 PM (rJ7Hd)

151 Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 04, 2024 07:54 PM (BpYfr)
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I believe my little anecdote also proves I can read.
Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 07:56 PM (uGpeQ)
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Unfortunately, I don't have any anecdotes that prove I can shoot, though I've been to a range a handful of times in my life...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 04, 2024 07:59 PM (BpYfr)

152 133 Doof will be there.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 04, 2024 07:52 PM

Yeah, he already asked me to bring him breakfast from my hotel to him. :-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 04, 2024 07:59 PM (0XVad)

153
Singer's tooling didn't go to waste. Most of it ended up with Remington Rand, a typewriter manufacturer who would go on to make more M1911A1s than anyone else, even Colt.
Posted by: Ed L


Did they make any Chicago typewriters?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 04, 2024 08:00 PM (63Dwl)

154 I don't like IWB that much but I guess it wins the battle of least printing.

Anyone IWB carry? Or am I only old timer still using an OWB?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 04, 2024 07:59 PM (rJ7Hd)
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I carry a full size 1911 IWB. But, being as I'm thin, as is a 1911, that may be while I'm able to get away with it.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 04, 2024 08:01 PM (tT6L1)

155 The Corps Has.

Sigh.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 04, 2024 07:44 PM


Yeah, yeah, yeah.....*sigh*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2024 08:01 PM (Wnv9h)

156 Anyone IWB carry? Or am I only old timer still using an OWB?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 04, 2024 07:59 PM (rJ7Hd)


IWB at 3 o'clock. Sig P365XL GRITR holster.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 04, 2024 08:01 PM (V5dm6)

157 Happy B-Day, RMBS (belatedly)!
Posted by: Ed L at August 04, 2024 07:45 PM


Thanks, Ed!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2024 08:02 PM (Wnv9h)

158 Scoobs, by the time you retire, NH may be behind enemy lines.

Posted by: RI Red at August 04, 2024 08:02 PM (cY9aw)

159 74 days!
We don't have to learn to play pickleball, do we?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 04, 2024 08:02 PM (t/2Uw)

160 Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at August 04, 2024 07:58 PM (p6u4

Which is why doing your research and knowing your subject BEFORE you plunk down your $$ in the collectors' market is absolutely critical.

Posted by: Ed L at August 04, 2024 08:03 PM (yRXSd)

161 140 Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 04, 2024 07:55 PM

Yeah, no campers for me. I will have a small place in both NH and FL if I do this. Otherwise I just have to get used to the heat and humidity and live down south year round.
If I get a place up north I can visit my brothers and their families a lot more since it appears neither of them are leaving NJ.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 04, 2024 08:03 PM (0XVad)

162 Now excuse me, I need to see a man about George A. Custer's personal 30-30 Winchester, which he left behind at camp on the way to the Little Big Horn.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at August 04, 2024 07:58 PM (p6u4

Reminds me of the guy who came into the store to pre-pay for gas. He sez "I have this $50 bill and it's very rare. It's worth at least $200 to a collector." He pulls it out of his wallet (LOL) and shows me a Grant that was printed the night before. Greasy, too. I looked him in the eye and asked him if he had something else. He put the fake away and handed me a legit double-sawbuck. I said "Good to go" and out he went to pump his gas.

Posted by: mrp at August 04, 2024 08:04 PM (rj6Yv)

163 Yeah, no campers for me. I will have a small place in both NH and FL if I do this. Otherwise I just have to get used to the heat and humidity and live down south year round.
If I get a place up north I can visit my brothers and their families a lot more since it appears neither of them are leaving NJ.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 04, 2024 08:03 PM


I really don't want to move to a hot climate, but that may have to be a thing. Unless Alaska...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2024 08:05 PM (Wnv9h)

164 144 Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at August 04, 2024 07:56 PM

That is something I need to start doing, GAINZZZZ . I do want to make the attempt to live to 100. ;-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 04, 2024 08:05 PM (0XVad)

165 Anyone IWB carry?

Yep. I figure concealability* counts for more than comfort. That said, my IWB from ttgunleather.com** is quite comfortable. It would be more so if I lost a few pounds but that's on me, not the holster.

* spell check doesn't think that's a word
** thanks again to whoever here recommended them

Posted by: Oddbob at August 04, 2024 08:05 PM (/y8xj)

166 Thanks Ed L for the additional Singer background. Interesting.

Posted by: TRex at August 04, 2024 08:05 PM (IQ6Gq)

167 Anyone IWB carry? Or am I only old timer still using an OWB?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 04, 2024 07:59 PM (rJ7Hd)

I'm usually wearing a T shirt and shorts these days, and I carry OWB. If anyone really looks, they can see I'm carrying, but people normally see what they expect to see. At least 98% of the people I'm in contact with never notice that I'm carrying. The other 2% just smile and nod politely.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at August 04, 2024 08:06 PM (YqfVr)

168 Grumble mutter. I have a 1st Generation Glock Model 21 with four mags. Recently while inspecting the mags, I noticed two of them are showing cracks in the plastic around the very top where the bullets feed into the gun.

Does something like this necessitate replacement?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at August 04, 2024 08:06 PM (/HDaX)

169 They had a no weapons sign up.

I ignored it.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 04, 2024 07:57 PM (V5dm6)

Who's going to know, unless you have to use it? And in that case, their hysterical rule will be the least of anyone's concerns.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at August 04, 2024 08:06 PM (OX9vb)

170 @oddbob, yeah, I CCW my 1911 in a ttgunleather holster. I've used it for years, competed with it, it still works and hasn't broken down.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 04, 2024 08:07 PM (tT6L1)

171 I thought i wanted to live in Florida but MD seems warm enough at this point. I'd like to be close to the ocean but this works for me for the time being.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 04, 2024 08:07 PM (t/2Uw)

172 158 NH may be behind enemy lines.
Posted by: RI Red at August 04, 2024 08:02 PM (cY9aw)

I am not fighting my way through, but maybe I can assist in smuggling some stuff through. ;-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 04, 2024 08:07 PM (0XVad)

173 I did have one gun-related thing this week.

I managed to get my "rebate" stuff turned in for my extra cylinder (in .22 WMR) for my .22 revolver. I managed to get it all done on my phone... then they told me the receipt didn't have a date on it, so I needed one with the date. So, that was easy to do. And the next day I had a code to go on their website and purchase the cylinder for free.

Though they told me it might take 8 to 10 weeks to process, it was about 20 hours from turning in the better receipt. I wonder if that "8-10 weeks" language is left over from the mail order days?

Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 08:08 PM (AWrpC)

174 Did they make any Chicago typewriters?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 04, 2024 08:00 PM (63Dwl)

Nope. That's Auto Ordinance and Savage. If you're looking for familiar names making WWII small arms, look at M1 Carbine production. IBM, Rock-Ola (jukeboxes), National Postal Meter, Quality Hardware made thousands each. It's an interesting array of corporate names you'll find.

Posted by: Ed L at August 04, 2024 08:08 PM (yRXSd)

175 Did someway attempt to assassinate Trump in July 2024?

"As of my last update in August 2024, there were no reported assassination attempts against Donald Trump in July 2024. However, it's always a good idea to check the latest news from reliable sources for the most current information."

Posted by: Chat GPT 'AI' just a few minutes ago... at August 04, 2024 08:08 PM (YdEcD)

176 So today was my first day on my church's security team. A few of us carry of course. Churches are awful soft targets.

I think I'm going to switch over to an IWB holster though. I've got a positive lock OWB and I just feel like I'm printing super bad through my shirt.
Posted by: AlaBAMA

Our guys (me too) on the parish team are all OWB carriers. I was also worried about printing but the Lead pointed out that it really doesn't matter - the entire team, and only our team, also wears a red lanyard while on duty. And, we position assignments are by design very conspicuous. We don't even try to be low key.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 04, 2024 08:10 PM (WXNFJ)

177 163 I really don't want to move to a hot climate, but that may have to be a thing. Unless Alaska...
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2024 08:05 PM

Yeah, Alaska is OUT for me. I want to get away from the cold and the snow. Of course I will have to deal with it visiting the family during the holiday season.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 04, 2024 08:10 PM (0XVad)

178 Who's going to know, unless you have to use it? And in that case, their hysterical rule will be the least of anyone's concerns.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at August 04, 2024 08:06 PM (OX9vb)
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Wasn't there some fool who got hysterical because Dickens was supposedly carrying in a "no weapons" zone when he stopped a mass shooter? If memory serves, the hysteria backfired on the person who opened their fool mouth.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 04, 2024 08:10 PM (tT6L1)

179 Thanks for the S&W info, whig!

Posted by: Splunge at August 04, 2024 08:12 PM (hmKaK)

180 Yeah, Alaska is OUT for me. I want to get away from the cold and the snow. Of course I will have to deal with it visiting the family during the holiday season.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 04, 2024 08:10 PM


Cold and snow aren't a problem for me. Shame NE is so far gone. I'd love the PNW, but...commies.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2024 08:12 PM (Wnv9h)

181 SOB van Owen, concur. Even wearing a t shirt, getting out of the car, I just untuck and pull it over whatever is on the belt.
Nobody notices. Or cares.
It is NH, after all.

Posted by: RI Red at August 04, 2024 08:12 PM (cY9aw)

182 I don't think your wife would like you cheating on her with a Kimber Micro 9, but you make your bed and lie in it, you handsome devil.

A storm is coming.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 04, 2024 08:13 PM (2UBPP)

183 Our guys (me too) on the parish team are all OWB carriers. I was also worried about printing but the Lead pointed out that it really doesn't matter - the entire team, and only our team, also wears a red lanyard while on duty. And, we position assignments are by design very conspicuous. We don't even try to be low key.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 04, 2024 08:10 PM (WXNFJ)

You know, that's a good point. Who's to say if someone chooses to avoid the church because they see someone is carrying through a shirt. Maybe printing is a good thing in this scenario. Not like I'm trying to be inconspicuous in a shopping center.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 04, 2024 08:13 PM (rJ7Hd)

184 Good evening Weasel and all the Gun Thread people!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 04, 2024 08:14 PM (D/KNX)

185 Gub!

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 04, 2024 08:14 PM (mH6SG)

186 Grumble mutter. I have a 1st Generation Glock Model 21 with four mags. Recently while inspecting the mags, I noticed two of them are showing cracks in the plastic around the very top where the bullets feed into the gun.

Does something like this necessitate replacement?
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at August 04, 2024 08:06 PM


If what you're describing are the feedlips, yes.

Otherwise, in general, yes. Magazines are the source of many, if not most (some say 80%) of pistol malfunctions.

Personally, I would replace them. Get genuine Glock magazines. They're inexpensive, especially compared to many other pistol mags, which can range from $40 to $80.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 04, 2024 08:15 PM (OxqmL)

187 Holy Shitballs! It's August! In fact, it's August 4th, 2024 and as we all know there is a longstanding Gun Thread tradition to celebrate a new gun purchase each and every August 4th, 2024!

Now, wait a goldurn minute! I just saw this, Weasel!

Why wasn’t I reminded! I
would have done my part!
I really need a,a, a, something.

Posted by: RI Red at August 04, 2024 08:17 PM (cY9aw)

188 >>Yeah, no campers for me. I will have a small place in both NH and FL if I do this. Otherwise I just have to get used to the heat and humidity and live down south year round.

I grew up in the northeast but I lived for a while in PR and spent 4 years working in Tampa. The idea of living in perpetual warm is something I could never get used to. I thought I would but it gets boring. I like my 4 seasons. I don't mind the cold, my biggest issue is short days.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 04, 2024 08:17 PM (LkLld)

189 Posted by: RI Red at August 04, 2024 08:12 PM (cY9aw)
If anyone ever asks what that bulge at my waist is, I just tell them it's my colostomy bag.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at August 04, 2024 08:17 PM (YqfVr)

190 After the first shot, the magazine dropped down about an 1/8" or so. Yikes!
Posted by: haffhowershower at August 04, 2024 07:32 PM (NMT5x)

Yes, yikes. But still better than the weld on the floorplate of your mag undoing itself, so the spring, the follower and ALLLLLL the bullets come flying out the bottom - while you're shooting.

Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 08:17 PM (AWrpC)

191 Well I am pretty sure I will not have a range report for next Sunday. But I should have one for the following.

Taking a week off after this next one is over. And on the calendar is "GO TO THE RANGE".

On the to do list is making sure the scope on my rifle is in good shape and zeroed.
And taking the pistol out and let it do its thing. Making holes in paper or ringing steel.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 04, 2024 08:18 PM (0XVad)

192 Does something like this necessitate replacement?
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at August 04, 2024 08:06 PM (/HDaX)

Any magazine with cracked feed lips (which hold the cartridges in place inside the magazine) at the top of the magazine MUST be either 1) discarded or 2) used only for training purposes. If you choose 2), mark it w/ colored electricians' tape so you can tell it apart from the rest. Use it to train on your reload drills. You won't feel bad about letting it hit the ground when you hit the magazine release.

Posted by: Ed L at August 04, 2024 08:18 PM (yRXSd)

193 Hi. I'm Bob. I have a gun problem.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 04, 2024 08:18 PM (CeeD+)

194 Posted by: RI Red at August 04, 2024 08:17 PM (cY9aw)
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*SIGH*

*makes note*

Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 08:18 PM (uGpeQ)

195 Hi. I'm Bob. I have a gun problem.
Posted by: AlaBAMA

Hi Bob!

Posted by: Tonypete at August 04, 2024 08:19 PM (WXNFJ)

196 Every time I take my Remington 700 (30to the range two things happen: i remember how much fun it is to shoot; and some guy wanders over and offers to buy it.
Problem though, I need to go back to square one to sight in the scope. I'm off.
Ugh.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 04, 2024 08:20 PM (W/lyH)

197 RBMS if you were here I'd cover you with peanut butter and jelly and then tear open a pillow over you.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 04, 2024 07:37 PM (V5dm6)

Ummmmmm.........

Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 08:21 PM (AWrpC)

198 Personally, I would replace them. Get genuine Glock magazines. They're inexpensive, especially compared to many other pistol mags, which can range from $40 to $80.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 04, 2024 08:15 PM (OxqmL)


That's where things get interesting. I've searched a number of sites checking pricing/availability and some say that the Glock Gen 3, 4 and 5 mags are interchangeable but not the Gen 1 or 2.

I might have to drop a line to them and see what they say about the issue.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at August 04, 2024 08:21 PM (/HDaX)

199 195 Hi. I'm Bob. I have a gun problem.
Posted by: AlaBAMA

Hi Bob!
Posted by: Tonypete at August 04, 2024 08:19 PM (WXNFJ

It's been...*looks at clock*....

Thirty six hours since I last bought a gun.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 04, 2024 08:21 PM (CeeD+)

200 Sigh.

Posted by: RI Red at August 04, 2024 08:21 PM (cY9aw)

201 Now, wait a goldurn minute! I just saw this, Weasel!

Why wasn’t I reminded! I
would have done my part!
I really need a,a, a, something.
Posted by: RI Red at August 04, 2024 08:17 PM


Ignorance is no excuse.

Now you've disappointed Weasel. So now that's two entries in your Permanent Record. Sad.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 04, 2024 08:21 PM (OxqmL)

202 No gun related stuff this week except to wipe down (otherwise known as fondling) the black powder guns and checking the bores.

But in line with the idea of supporting local brick and mortar stores. Someone this week was lamenting the lack of traditional tobacconists in his area. For folks in the northern Virginia area there is Old Virginia Tobacco Company with several branches. Great selection of cigars and pipe tobaccos, comfortable easy chairs to relax in and chat with folks who appreciate good tobacco, a coffee machine, and friendly staff. The one closest to me is more cigar than pipe oriented but still keeps a good variety of pipes and blends.

Just FYI.

Posted by: JTB at August 04, 2024 08:21 PM (zudum)

203 I am the proud owner of an Ultra Raptor II from the Kimber Custom Shop. A fine sidearm it is.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 04, 2024 08:22 PM (mH6SG)

204 I'm starting to get that itch again
Posted by: mrp at August 04, 2024 07:37 PM (rj6Yv)

As long as it isn't in certain areas, that's not necessarily a bad thing. And welcome back.

Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 08:22 PM (AWrpC)

205 Does anyone have experience with the Beretta PX 4?

Posted by: mrp at August 04, 2024 08:22 PM (rj6Yv)

206 As long as it isn't in certain areas, that's not necessarily a bad thing. And welcome back.
Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 08:22 PM (AWrpC)

Thanks!

Posted by: mrp at August 04, 2024 08:23 PM (rj6Yv)

207 188 Posted by: JackStraw at August 04, 2024 08:17 PM

In my 29 years I have lived in the NE 98% of the time. I like the seasons too but I just do not like the cold like I used to.
Also, the hostility towards firearms in these states makes my decision that much more easier.
I am also making sure that I do not touch a penny of my 401k and retirement funds until I have moved out of NY and set up residency in FL or TX. I do not want NY to get one dime in taxes when I start withdrawing.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 04, 2024 08:24 PM (0XVad)

208 With my luck I would salvage the one loaded with perishable items.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 04, 2024 07:40 PM (0XVad)

Or the one with a Ferrari. That slowly starts sinking after you open it. With your coat zipper snagged on the door.

Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 08:24 PM (AWrpC)

209 Yes, yikes. But still better than the weld on the floorplate of your mag undoing itself, so the spring, the follower and ALLLLLL the bullets come flying out the bottom - while you're shooting.
Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 08:17 PM (AWrpC)


That is a big all caps YIKES!!! What gun/brand did this happen on?

Posted by: haffhowershower at August 04, 2024 08:24 PM (NMT5x)

210 Now, wait a goldurn minute! I just saw this, Weasel!

Why wasn’t I reminded! I
would have done my part!
I really need a,a, a, something.
Posted by: RI Red at August 04, 2024 08:17 PM


*le sigh*

*makes note in RI Red's permanent record*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2024 08:25 PM (Wnv9h)

211 Serial number visible?
As has been mentioned there is the ATF angle.

Also, there is the criminal angle (but I repeat myself)

I imagine someone could now report said firearm stolen.
Or, they could use the serial number on a stolen firearm in some way.
If it's the same model I bet that could lead to some "fun".
All speculation, really.

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at August 04, 2024 08:25 PM (elaR+)

212 Does anyone have experience with the Beretta PX 4?
Posted by: mrp at August 04, 2024 08:22 PM (rj6Yv)

Not the gun.
But I knew a Berri Etta once, and met her behind the PX one night after work...she got off at 4. And again at 4:20.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 04, 2024 08:26 PM (W/lyH)

213 208 Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 08:24 PM

LOL, yeah the Ferrari of my dreams, the F430.
I'M GOING FOR IT!!! SNAGGED ZIPPER OR NOT!!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 04, 2024 08:27 PM (0XVad)

214 That's where things get interesting. I've searched a number of sites checking pricing/availability and some say that the Glock Gen 3, 4 and 5 mags are interchangeable but not the Gen 1 or 2.

I might have to drop a line to them and see what they say about the issue.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at August 04, 2024 08:21 PM


AFAIK, any Gen mag will work. Here's a couple of links you may find interesting:

https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/ glock-17-gen-1-magazines.1664090/ (remove space after threads/))

https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/ 1984-1994-early-glock-mags.1784192/ (remove space after threads/)

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 04, 2024 08:27 PM (OxqmL)

215 Any magazine with cracked feed lips (which hold the cartridges in place inside the magazine) at the top of the magazine MUST be either 1) discarded or 2) used only for training purposes. If you choose 2), mark it w/ colored electricians' tape so you can tell it apart from the rest. Use it to train on your reload drills. You won't feel bad about letting it hit the ground when you hit the magazine release.
Posted by: Ed L at August 04, 2024 08:18 PM (yRXSd)


In this case, its the plastic surrounding the metal feedlips. The ones that are cracked let the feedlips spread slightly and allow the bullet to wobble left/right. So yeah, I guess they have to go.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at August 04, 2024 08:27 PM (/HDaX)

216 Does something like this necessitate replacement?
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at August 04, 2024 08:06 PM (/HDaX)

Cracks can appear in steel magazines too. Dig into your Colt 1911 history, and you'll find that cracked magazines plagued early Colt 1911s until better metallurgy and steel tempering fixed the problem in mid-1913.

Posted by: Ed L at August 04, 2024 08:27 PM (yRXSd)

217 Posted by: RedMindBlueState

Hope you have had an excellent Birthday!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 04, 2024 08:27 PM (D/KNX)

218 RMBS
Many happy returns on the day!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 04, 2024 08:28 PM (W/lyH)

219 I recently bought a CZ-82, and while I have yet to shoot it, it sure seems like a nice little firearm.

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at August 04, 2024 08:29 PM (elaR+)

220 I meant to mention earlier that once I got my act somewhat sorted out at the range (FUNDAMENTALS!), I tried a couple of new (for me) drills that Ken Hackathorn espoused. One is the 9 in 9 drill: https://tinyurl.com/2thtxtza
I didn't even come close to 9 seconds - I even forgot to move back to my starting position for the last 3 rounds the first time I ran through it. But it's a fun drill, and I really like the idea of using 3X5" index cards as the target. I recommend giving it a try.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at August 04, 2024 08:31 PM (YqfVr)

221 214 Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 04, 2024 08:27 PM

When I purchased my Sig P226 it came with 2 magazines. I purchased 2 more magazine not to long after, also made by Sig.
They may be neutered to only 10 rounds but I trust they will work.
I think it was worth the expense.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 04, 2024 08:31 PM (0XVad)

222 Duncanthrax, just don’t let any of the Permanent Record Holders know I haven’t been to the range in . .
13 days.

Posted by: RI Red at August 04, 2024 08:32 PM (cY9aw)

223 I'm sure it's been mentioned already, but it's a well known fact that Bob from NSA reviews every picture of every firearm posted online for tracking and cross referencing purposes.

Posted by: From about That Time at August 04, 2024 08:33 PM (4780s)

224 Happy 29th, RMBS!

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 04, 2024 08:33 PM (iZbyp)

225 I'm just mad that I can't get additional mags for my new Lily Lilac glock with the pretty purple end caps like the ones it came with.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 04, 2024 08:33 PM (t/2Uw)

226 179 Thanks for the S&W info, whig!
Posted by: Splunge
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No problem. DA/SA is not that popular of a firearm choice today and the S&W Third was purposely designed to have an initial trigger pull like a S&W revolver that many of the cops converted from.

Any heavy trigger pull requires good grip fit.

BTW, Robertson's Trading Post also has extended mags for the 6900 series that work well. You can even use 5900 series mags (up to 17 rounds if you get MecGar ones) in them but you need a mag adapter to cover the exposed mag below the grip. Some like shooting with them as you get more purchase on the grip than the shorter 6900 unmodified grip.

Robertsons has those too.

They are good folks and usually have quite a few S&W 3rd generations in stock along with parts.

Posted by: whig at August 04, 2024 08:34 PM (qdbNv)

227 Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at August 04, 2024 08:29 PM (elaR+)
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Congratulations!! Happy 08/04/24!

Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 08:34 PM (uGpeQ)

228 136 ... "Thompson Center seems to be ramping up under new ownership."

I learned about this a few weeks ago. I suspect they won't resurrect their excellent traditional style black powder rifles. But I have hopes for some new Contenders. I would love one with a 10 or 12 inch barrel in 32 magnum/long. One of my favorite target rounds.

Posted by: JTB at August 04, 2024 08:34 PM (zudum)

229 223 I'm sure it's been mentioned already, but it's a well known fact that Bob from NSA reviews every picture of every firearm posted online for tracking and cross referencing purposes.
Posted by: From about That Time

Meh, easy enough to vary things a bit and very easy to obscure serial numbers, etc. with very little effort. Make sure to kill the image metadata generated by pix taking as well before posting.

Posted by: whig at August 04, 2024 08:35 PM (qdbNv)

230 Have to get a few groceries for teh spousal unit. Y'all be good.

Posted by: whig at August 04, 2024 08:35 PM (qdbNv)

231 Anyone IWB carry? Or am I only old timer still using an OWB?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 04, 2024 07:59 PM (rJ7Hd)

Yep. And I carry to church with my shirt tucked over it. I'm that guy. If I could bring myself to start wearing a sport coat (and not taking it off all the time) I would carry un-tucked (that is, the shirt tucked behind the holster). I would actually prefer OWB sometimes, but I can't bring myself to walk around with my shirt untucked, except for rare instances.

And, no, I don't own any Hawaiian shirts that fit me. Or I'd carry my .45 1911 GI all the time, SOB. I might even shave my beard and just go with a classy bushy mustache.

Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 08:36 PM (AWrpC)

232 I think it was worth the expense.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 04, 2024 08:31 PM (0XVad)


One of the things that sold me on the Hi-Point 4595 carbine, besides the ridiculously low price, was it came with it's own carrying case and 6 extra magazines.
OK sure, it's an ugly gun, but a damned fine shooter, especially inside 150 yards.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 04, 2024 08:36 PM (W/lyH)

233 When I purchased my Sig P226 it came with 2 magazines. I purchased 2 more magazine not to long after, also made by Sig.
They may be neutered to only 10 rounds but I trust they will work.
I think it was worth the expense.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 04, 2024 08:31 PM


In my limited experience for the last 40 years, factory magazines have always been superior to aftermarket stuff. There are exceptions like Pmags and some others, but factory magazines tend to work 100% of the time.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 04, 2024 08:36 PM (QNSds)

234 Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 08:36 PM (AWrpC)

Oh, and I typically carry a 1911 Officer in 9mm.

Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 08:38 PM (AWrpC)

235 Ok, it is that time.

Weasel, thank you again for putting up the content and dealing with us reprobates. ;-)

I hope everyone has a good night and a great week!!

Night all!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 04, 2024 08:38 PM (0XVad)

236 RMBS - happy birthday! Hope the coming year treats you well.
If you are considering Alaska, you might also want to check out Idaho and Montana. Both are quite beautiful, and the people (at least those from those states) are very very nice.

Posted by: Grateful at August 04, 2024 08:38 PM (IQ6Gq)

237 Congratulations!! Happy 08/04/24!
Posted by: Weasel

Thank you, good sir!

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at August 04, 2024 08:39 PM (elaR+)

238 https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/ glock-17-gen-1-magazines.1664090/ (remove space after threads/))

https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/ 1984-1994-early-glock-mags.1784192/ (remove space after threads/)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 04, 2024 08:27 PM (OxqmL)


Much appreciated!

If I'm reading that material correctly and it translates from the Glock 17 to the 21, newer mags should fit although there may be differences in how far the baseplate extends below the grip. That I can live with.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at August 04, 2024 08:39 PM (/HDaX)

239 I have a PX4 Storm Compact (not the subcompact) and it is a fine pistol, easy to work on, but was never really that popular here. Has the unique rotating barrel lockup which makes them beefier than the drop block system but they have a bit less felt recoil because of it. Easy to convert to decocker only if you can only buy the DA/SA model and low profile carry parts are available.

Before I go, what did you want to know?

Posted by: whig at August 04, 2024 08:39 PM (qdbNv)

240 Posted by: Duncanthrax

Don't let CBD catch u using unmodified links. One of his pet peeves.

Posted by: whig at August 04, 2024 08:40 PM (qdbNv)

241 Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 08:36 PM (AWrpC)

Oh, and I typically carry a 1911 Officer in 9mm.
Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 08:38 PM (AWrpC)

I once owned a Colt .45ACP Officer Stainless Steel. Figured that after I emptied the magazine I could throw it for effect.

Posted by: mrp at August 04, 2024 08:42 PM (rj6Yv)

242 Adios, Scoob.

Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 08:42 PM (uGpeQ)

243 I'm sure it's been mentioned already, but it's a well known fact that Bob from NSA reviews every picture of every firearm posted online for tracking and cross referencing purposes.
Posted by: From about That Time at August 04, 2024 08:33 PM (4780s)
***

Then in my case he will see some good cigars. (Shout out to the boys and girls in B Group Bob) But ignore that putter Bob even though it murdered several birdie opportunities.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 04, 2024 08:42 PM (W/lyH)

244 Cracks can appear in steel magazines too. Dig into your Colt 1911 history, and you'll find that cracked magazines plagued early Colt 1911s until better metallurgy and steel tempering fixed the problem in mid-1913.
Posted by: Ed L

Damaged feed lips are one of the biggest reasons for subpar reliability for semi autos. Brownells used to sell a tool to try to fix them but best to consider them expendable and save the follower and spring and perhaps the base from such a mag. Fixing them is an exercise in futility except for rare collector items.

For every serious social event pistol, I keep at a minimum 6 mags and prefer 10.

Posted by: whig at August 04, 2024 08:44 PM (qdbNv)

245 Yes, the ttgunleather site looks like good stuff.

But all the beautiful holsters make me cry. I'm carrying concealed! Nobody is going to see that gorgeous leather work! Well, the guy I have to shoot might - but he's not going to have a chance to appreciate it unless I really screw up my shot placement. (I know, Weasel, fundamentals!)

Maybe I should treat it like women apparently treat lingerie: "I feel good! And if only he knew!"

Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 08:44 PM (AWrpC)

246 Before I go, what did you want to know?
Posted by: whig at August 04, 2024 08:39 PM (qdbNv)

I have large palms and was wondering if the PX4 Compact carry would accommodate a three-finger grip. I'm pretty much settled on getting the PX4 Storm full size. My Beretta 92 FS fit perfectly.

Posted by: mrp at August 04, 2024 08:45 PM (rj6Yv)

247 >>> But then I shot my S&W 6904,
Posted by: Splunge


I also took the 5906 to the range, shot it for the first time. Similar style I believe, but difference in material and barrel length. I only quickly looked it up.

It's not a carry gun for me, but the 5906 was sweet!

Posted by: haffhowershower at August 04, 2024 08:45 PM (NMT5x)

248 Glock Gen mag update -- it appears that Gen 1 through Gen 4 mags are backwards compatible. Gen 5 mags are not.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 04, 2024 08:46 PM (OxqmL)

249 Okay, depending on time at the store checkout, if anyone has questions about the Smith 3rd generation or the PX4, I will try to be back before the end of the thread.

I'm out. Thanks to Weasel and the other commenters and hat tip to Ed L for pointing out the importance of magazines. They are overlooked often as a source of malfunction.

Posted by: whig at August 04, 2024 08:46 PM (qdbNv)

250 I'd like to be close to the ocean but this works for me for the time being.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 04, 2024 08:07 PM (t/2Uw)

In Florida, every now and then the ocean comes to you!

Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 08:46 PM (AWrpC)

251 For every serious social event pistol, I keep at a minimum 6 mags and prefer 10.
Posted by: whig at August 04, 2024 08:44 PM (qdbNv)

Same here.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at August 04, 2024 08:47 PM (YqfVr)

252 I learned about this a few weeks ago. I suspect they won't resurrect their excellent traditional style black powder rifles. But I have hopes for some new Contenders.

You may have already seen this but it's the new owner talking about moving the T/C assets out of S&W and back to New Hampshire. He doesn't talk about specific products but he gives off a vibe like he wants to bring back the T/C that the traditionalists knew and loved. So... maybe?

https://youtu.be/gTOnMRyKqII

Posted by: Oddbob at August 04, 2024 08:47 PM (/y8xj)

253 RMBS, happy birthday that you share with the USCG.

Posted by: Eromero at August 04, 2024 08:47 PM (LHPAg)

254 Sorry I'm late - I was shooting Roundup at weeds in the driveway, thereby ensuring that we'll get rain tonight.

Have not done any real shooting this week, but I did pay the range dudes to clean Jesse's model 1917 rifle. The one and only time I fired it, the spent brass would not eject. (It wasn't just poor technique on my part. Another experienced shooter had the same problem.) I didn't get to test it out because I had Mom with me when I picked it up and I'm not ready to fly solo with a rifle I've fired exactly once. Undecided on bringing this to TX. It takes up a lot of space.

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 04, 2024 08:48 PM (iZbyp)

255 For every serious social event pistol, I keep at a minimum 6 mags and prefer 10.
Posted by: whig at August 04, 2024 08:44 PM


There is iron in the words of whig for all Morons to see.

Posted by: Duncanthrax Ten Bears at August 04, 2024 08:48 PM (OxqmL)

256 I have large palms and was wondering if the PX4 Compact carry would accommodate a three-finger grip. I'm pretty much settled on getting the PX4 Storm full size. My Beretta 92 FS fit perfectly.
Posted by: mrp
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It should do fine, adding some Talon adhesive grip adapters to teh factory one adds a bit of give and size to teh grip as well.

But, the full size is not that much bigger than teh subcompact except for the length of the slide. The subcompact holds 15 and takes the full size mags in 9mm and the full size is 17 so there is not that much of a shorter grip on the compact.

The subcompact is a dropping block design and not that popular except if you need a small one. The APX is probably better for that purpose anyway.

Posted by: whig at August 04, 2024 08:49 PM (qdbNv)

257 If anyone ever asks what that bulge at my waist is, I just tell them it's my colostomy bag.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at August 04, 2024 08:17 PM (YqfVr)

I'm far enough past 29 now to make that one work!

Go one step further and get an empty one to put over the holster....

Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 08:50 PM (AWrpC)

258 >>In Florida, every now and then the ocean comes to you!

If you live in Ft Myers, now would be that time.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 04, 2024 08:51 PM (LkLld)

259 I'm sure it's been mentioned already, but it's a well known fact that Bob from NSA reviews every picture of every firearm posted online for tracking and cross referencing purposes.
Posted by: From about That Time

I don't even take pics of the gubs I've lost on my phone. Only with my digital 35mm camera for insurance purposes. I pull the SIM card and store it in a save place.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 04, 2024 08:51 PM (WXNFJ)

260 Weasel, how are FSJ and the kitty doing?

Posted by: Duncanthrax Ten Bears at August 04, 2024 08:51 PM (OxqmL)

261 Posted by: screaming in digital at August 04, 2024 08:48 PM (iZbyp)
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Buy a bigger car!

Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 08:51 PM (uGpeQ)

262 252 ... Oddbob,
Thanks for the link. Getting a new T/C away from the S and W corporate imbeciles can only be positive.

Posted by: JTB at August 04, 2024 08:53 PM (zudum)

263 Weasel, I watched the video on why a micro-9 might not be your best option for CC. Most of the reasons given sound like the same ones I've heard why .38 snubby revolvers may not be your best choice for CC. I don't have any micro-9s, but I think that my snub nose revolvers are significantly more difficult to shoot accurately, definitely produce more felt recoil, and are far less fun to shoot compared to larger revolvers in the same caliber.

Posted by: Ed L at August 04, 2024 08:53 PM (yRXSd)

264 150 So today was my first day on my church's security team. A few of us carry of course. Churches are awful soft targets.

I think I'm going to switch over to an IWB holster though. I've got a positive lock OWB and I just feel like I'm printing super bad through my shirt. It's not the gun so much as the bulk of the holster itself.

I don't like IWB that much but I guess it wins the battle of least printing.

Anyone IWB carry? Or am I only old timer still using an OWB?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 04, 2024 07:59 PM (rJ7Hd)
I carry OWB as big as a 1911, and a simple Carhart vest or casual jacket covers very well.

Posted by: Eromero at August 04, 2024 08:53 PM (LHPAg)

265 Happy 29th, RMBS!
Posted by: screaming in digital at August 04, 2024 08:33 PM


*Forrest Gump wave*

Thanks, SiD.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2024 08:54 PM (Wnv9h)

266
The subcompact is a dropping block design and not that popular except if you need a small one. The APX is probably better for that purpose anyway.
Posted by: whig at August 04, 2024 08:49 PM (qdbNv)

Thanks, Whig!

Posted by: mrp at August 04, 2024 08:54 PM (rj6Yv)

267 That is a big all caps YIKES!!! What gun/brand did this happen on?
Posted by: haffhowershower at August 04, 2024 08:24 PM (NMT5x)

It was the Mecgar magazine for my 1911 9mm (Officer).
All the others have been very good. But that one just decided it had had enough. And then, despite the mag being empty, the slide didn't lock back!

Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 08:54 PM (AWrpC)

268 Duncanthrax, just don’t let any of the Permanent Record Holders know I haven’t been to the range in . .
13 days.
Posted by: RI Red at August 04, 2024 08:32 PM


I won't. But you have been dry-firing, right?

Right????

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 04, 2024 08:54 PM (OxqmL)

269 'Night all.
Love getting to talk to you all every Sunday. Lots of hugs awaiting those of you who make it to Texas. Have a good week.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 04, 2024 08:55 PM (t/2Uw)

270 RMBS, happy birthday that you share with the USCG.
Posted by: Eromero at August 04, 2024 08:47 PM


*fistbump*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2024 08:55 PM (Wnv9h)

271 Weasel, how are FSJ and the kitty doing?
Posted by: Duncanthrax Ten Bears at August 04, 2024 08:51 PM (OxqmL)
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FSJ is doing great! Just let him in from the back yard and gave him his good boy treat for peeing.

WeaselCat v2, on the other hand, not so great. After 15 years, we had to say goodbye to her a couple of weeks ago unexpectedly. She had a UTI and in the process of treating that her kidney function virtually stopped. Miss that little kitty.

Thanks for asking!

Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 08:56 PM (uGpeQ)

272 RMBS
Many happy returns on the day!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at August 04, 2024 08:28 PM


Thank you kindly, Diogenes.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2024 08:57 PM (Wnv9h)

273 for insurance purposes. I pull the SIM card and store it in a save place.
Posted by: Tonypete
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Changed carrier on homeowners policy this year. Pretty specific and limiting carve out for firearms. Did a little shopping around for a separate policy but not yet in place. Guessing this topic has come up here before but any have recommendations?

Posted by: scampydog at August 04, 2024 08:57 PM (41CYW)

274 Glock Gen mag update -- it appears that Gen 1 through Gen 4 mags are backwards compatible. Gen 5 mags are not.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 04, 2024 08:46 PM (OxqmL)



Arrgggh! Themagshack.com, for example, claims that Gens 3, 4 and 5 are interchangeable.

In any case, checking shows that the Gen 4 variant is pretty easy to get a hold of.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at August 04, 2024 08:58 PM (/HDaX)

275 Oh, Weasel, I'm so sorry for you and WW.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 04, 2024 08:58 PM (5MvGY)

276 Posted by: Ed L at August 04, 2024 08:53 PM (yRXSd)
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I don't know, I shoot snubbies pretty well and the smaller Sig has been accurate. I'll figure it out when I take it to the farm.

Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 08:58 PM (uGpeQ)

277 232 ... "One of the things that sold me on the Hi-Point 4595 carbine, besides the ridiculously low price, was it came with it's own carrying case and 6 extra magazines.
OK sure, it's an ugly gun, but a damned fine shooter, especially inside 150 yards."

Diogenes,
Agreed. Their 45 acp pistol is heavy, clunky, and has a not so great trigger pull. But it is American made, affordable, decently accurate and has been utterly reliable. If I were looking for a pistol caliber semi carbine (I prefer lever actions for that) I would definitely look at Hi-point.

Posted by: JTB at August 04, 2024 08:59 PM (zudum)

278 Posted by: Ben Had at August 04, 2024 08:58 PM (5MvGY)
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Thanks, BH. Appreciate it.

Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 09:00 PM (uGpeQ)

279 Sorry I'm late. I was making a lasagne (with added veggies) and a pasta salad to use cucumbers from the garden of a friend.

Lots of good videos that I need to review. Thanks Weasel1

Posted by: Iris at August 04, 2024 09:00 PM (n3DL0)

280 Well, I’d best sign off before any other of my failings are permanently noted.
Thx, Weasel!
As for the rest of you . . .

Posted by: RI Red at August 04, 2024 09:01 PM (cY9aw)

281 Damaged feed lips are one of the biggest reasons for subpar reliability for semi autos. Brownells used to sell a tool to try to fix them but best to consider them expendable and save the follower and spring and perhaps the base from such a mag. Fixing them is an exercise in futility except for rare collector items.

For every serious social event pistol, I keep at a minimum 6 mags and prefer 10.
Posted by: whig at August 04, 2024 08:44 PM (qdbNv)

Hard to believe that somebody would try to fix a bent or damaged set of feed lips. I've been buying magazines for by Walther P99AS when I see them and can afford them. With Walther ending P99 production, I'm wondering how long they'll continue to make magazines for them.

Posted by: Ed L at August 04, 2024 09:01 PM (yRXSd)

282 Posted by: Iris at August 04, 2024 09:00 PM (n3DL0)
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Howdy!

Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 09:01 PM (uGpeQ)

283 It was the Mecgar magazine for my 1911 9mm (Officer).

Interesting. I was under the impression that Mecgar was the OEM for many "factory" mags. But I suppose if you make millions of anything, some percentage of them will be flawed.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 04, 2024 09:01 PM (/y8xj)

284 RMBS - happy birthday! Hope the coming year treats you well.
If you are considering Alaska, you might also want to check out Idaho and Montana. Both are quite beautiful, and the people (at least those from those states) are very very nice.
Posted by: Grateful at August 04, 2024 08:38 PM


Thank you. I grew up by the ocean. I need me some ocean. I would like to visit both Idaho and Montana, though.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2024 09:01 PM (Wnv9h)

285 Posted by: RI Red at August 04, 2024 09:01 PM (cY9aw)
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Adios, amigo!

Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 09:02 PM (uGpeQ)

286 Well, I’d best sign off before any other of my failings are permanently noted.
Thx, Weasel!
As for the rest of you . . .
Posted by: RI Red at August 04, 2024 09:01 PM


Peace out, Red.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2024 09:02 PM (Wnv9h)

287 Weasel, I'm so sorry to hear that, amigo. {{bro hug}}

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 04, 2024 09:02 PM (OxqmL)

288 Weasel,
So sorry to hear about Cat v2. Doing the right thing isn't always easy but compassionate.

Posted by: JTB at August 04, 2024 09:03 PM (zudum)

289 Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 08:56 PM

Aw, hell. Sorry to hear that, Weasel.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2024 09:04 PM (Wnv9h)

290 After 15 years, we had to say goodbye to her a couple of weeks ago unexpectedly.
Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 08:56 PM (uGpeQ)

Bummer. Who will oversee the battles for the command post, now?

Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 09:04 PM (AWrpC)

291 WeaselCat v2, on the other hand, not so great. After 15 years, we had to say goodbye to her a couple of weeks ago unexpectedly. She had a UTI and in the process of treating that her kidney function virtually stopped. Miss that little kitty.

Thanks for asking!
Posted by: Weasel

Oh no!
Sorry for your loss.

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at August 04, 2024 09:04 PM (elaR+)

292 Condolences, Weasel. 15 years is a good run.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at August 04, 2024 09:04 PM (/HDaX)

293 RMBS, JackStraw says Rhode Island is great !!!

Posted by: Ben Had at August 04, 2024 09:05 PM (5MvGY)

294 Weasel, are you ever going to shut up about fundamentals

Just got back from a weekend Aikido seminar. My teacher's lecture on Saturday was dedicated to the fundamentals.

Posted by: NR Pax at August 04, 2024 09:05 PM (e4oEG)

295 Thanks Duncanthrax and JTB. It's always tough. The kitty, Lucy, was a great little girl.

Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 09:06 PM (uGpeQ)

296 The Spain v. Egypt in women's volleyball. The Spanish are the ones in red.

https://is.gd/9hbgWN

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 problems but Vance ain't one at August 04, 2024 09:06 PM (L/fGl)

297 189 Posted by: RI Red at August 04, 2024 08:12 PM (cY9aw)
If anyone ever asks what that bulge at my waist is, I just tell them it's my colostomy bag.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at August 04, 2024 08:17 PM (YqfVr)
This is comedy gold.
'It's my coloscopy bag. Have you ever handlee one? Obviously you're curious.'

Posted by: Eromero at August 04, 2024 09:07 PM (LHPAg)

298 But I suppose if you make millions of anything, some percentage of them will be flawed.
Posted by: Oddbob at August 04, 2024 09:01 PM (/y8xj)

Yeah. I wasn't that bummed, except for having to pick up all the ammo and parts and it disrupting my shooting. It just happens. I'm a test guy, so I just see it as doing my job.

Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 09:07 PM (AWrpC)

299 Posted by: NR Pax at August 04, 2024 09:05 PM (e4oEG)
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He or she must be really smart!

Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 09:07 PM (uGpeQ)

300 Cold and snow aren't a problem for me. Shame NE is so far gone. I'd love the PNW, but...commies.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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If you don't mind constant wind, consider Wyoming. Just stay away from Jackson. I mean, go see the Tetons for sure, but don't live there, it's crawling with celebrities and leftists. Laramie's a college town but still not terrible. Laramie has an indoor range (featuring the awesome Range Master Roy) and an outdoor range with shooting up to 1000 yards, plus the 100 yard range has a wood stove.

There are excellent Hordelings in that state as well. Sadly I'm no longer one of them.

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 04, 2024 09:07 PM (iZbyp)

301 Looks like tomorrow is going to be a very interesting day and by interesting I mean really ugly.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 04, 2024 09:07 PM (LkLld)

302 Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 08:58 PM (uGpeQ)

I've had a Colt Detective Special since the mid-90s and only figured out how to shoot it halfway accurately in double action a couple of years ago. I think shooting my Colt 1991A1 is a lot more fun and easier to learn on than that Detective Special.

Posted by: Ed L at August 04, 2024 09:07 PM (yRXSd)

303 Folks. It's. FUN- damentals.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 04, 2024 09:07 PM (5MvGY)

304 The Spain v. Egypt in women's volleyball. The Spanish are the ones in red.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 problems but Vance ain't one at August 04, 2024 09:06 PM (L/fGl)

Wow. Those uniforms remind me of something in a movie... but I'm not sure what.

Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 09:08 PM (AWrpC)

305 Oh no, I'm so sorry about WeaselCat. Hugs to y'all.

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 04, 2024 09:09 PM (iZbyp)

306 Thank you all for your good wishes regarding Lucy. I'm still kind of at the point where I walk into a room and look for her.

Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 09:09 PM (uGpeQ)

307 >>RMBS, JackStraw says Rhode Island is great !!!

Oh he knows Ben Had.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 04, 2024 09:10 PM (LkLld)

308 Folks. It's. FUN- damentals.

Ah, that's where I've been going wrong. People says I'm funda-MENTAL. Or something like that.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 04, 2024 09:10 PM (/y8xj)

309 May not be pew pew but some pretty impressive suppression.

https://is.gd/vIe3eG

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 problems but Vance ain't one at August 04, 2024 09:12 PM (L/fGl)

310 Condolences about your kitty, Weasel.

Posted by: Ed L at August 04, 2024 09:12 PM (yRXSd)

311 And, no, I don't own any Hawaiian shirts that fit me. Or I'd carry my .45 1911 GI all the time, SOB. I might even shave my beard and just go with a classy bushy mustache.
Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 08:36 PM (AWrpC)
Remember, you can conceal 5 full size 1911s under a Hawaiian shirt.

Posted by: Eromero at August 04, 2024 09:14 PM (LHPAg)

312 Posted by: Ed L at August 04, 2024 09:12 PM (yRXSd)
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Thanks Ed L.

Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 09:14 PM (uGpeQ)

313 "that he had followed my example and purchased a manual transmission vehicle.

The influence one has without knowing of it ...
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) "

That kid is going places! Congratulations on the Eagle to him, and you.

Posted by: fd at August 04, 2024 09:17 PM (vFG9F)

314 Ok, 9:19 thank you time!

Thank you! Thank you all for being here and I hope to see you here again next Sunday!

Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 09:19 PM (uGpeQ)

315 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I got 99 problems but Vance ain't one at August 04, 2024 09:12 PM (L/fGl)

The 1911 Syndicate has a video about the H&K Mark 23 where they do a shoot-off with a prototype Mark 23 with a slide lock and rectangular suppressor, a current production Mark 23 with a B&T suppressor, a Mark 23 with a KAC suppressor (as issued to SOCOM), and the same KAC can fired wet. Video sound can play tricks on you, but since everyone in the video doesn't have any hearing protection on, it can't be that loud. It certainly sounds very quiet for a pistol firing .45 ACP.

Posted by: Ed L at August 04, 2024 09:19 PM (yRXSd)

316 Thanks, Weasel, for another Gun Thread.
I really do look forward to this every week.

Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 09:20 PM (AWrpC)

317 Thanks for hosting, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at August 04, 2024 09:20 PM (yRXSd)

318 Good night and thanks for the thread, Weasel. And condolences for WCv2.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 04, 2024 09:21 PM (/y8xj)

319 299 He or she must be really smart!
Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 09:07 PM (uGpeQ)


He is. He's been practicing for over 40 years and he focuses on the basics and shows how it leads to an art.

Posted by: NR Pax at August 04, 2024 09:21 PM (e4oEG)

320 Thank you. I grew up by the ocean. I need me some ocean. I would like to visit both Idaho and Montana, though.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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OK well no ocean in Wyoming. But mountain lakes!!!

Montana has a nice yuge lake. Flathead. And I highly recommend Lakes Pend Oreille and Couer d'Alene in north Idaho. Pend Oreille is so deep they did submarine training there during WWII.

I will happily bore you with pictures and recommendations for North Idaho or Glacier and Flathead, Montana any time. Might as well stop at the firearms museum in Cody while you're out there.

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 04, 2024 09:25 PM (iZbyp)

321 Buy a bigger car!
Posted by: Weasel
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If I'm by myself in the Jeep it's no problemo but I expect to be a hitchhiker with others, and possibly even relegated to the roof rack to accommodate their Stuff.

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 04, 2024 09:26 PM (iZbyp)

322 I think I killed the thread. Sorry, I'll show myself out.

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 04, 2024 09:29 PM (iZbyp)

323 Posted by: screaming in digital at August 04, 2024 09:29 PM (iZbyp)
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It's not you, just winding down..

Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 09:30 PM (uGpeQ)

324 I think I killed the thread. Sorry, I'll show myself out.
Posted by: screaming in digital at August 04, 2024 09:29 PM (iZbyp)

LOL. No, it's just that time when there's a lull before the final push before the ONT.

Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 09:30 PM (AWrpC)

325 I'm having a Bloody Mary. I haven't had one in ages.
These are good. I might have to have 2 or 3 more.

I shot a few pellets today. From the pool. I've got a concrete block standing about 50' away with an empty peanut can in the top hole. It makes a satisfying -clink- when you hit it with a pellet or bb. BBs usually bounce off but pellets will penetrate the metal bottom.

Posted by: fd at August 04, 2024 09:30 PM (vFG9F)

326 OK well no ocean in Wyoming. But mountain lakes!!!
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What in tarn nation?!

Posted by: andycanuck (i0CiB) at August 04, 2024 09:31 PM (i0CiB)

327 Anybody watching what's happening in the financial markets right now?

Posted by: JackStraw at August 04, 2024 09:32 PM (LkLld)

328 We do need to talk about the 8.6 Blackout, Weasel. Is it a flash in the pan, or will it be around in 10 years?

Posted by: GWB at August 04, 2024 09:33 PM (AWrpC)

329 JackStraw, the bottom falling out ?

Posted by: Ben Had at August 04, 2024 09:33 PM (5MvGY)

330 >>JackStraw, the bottom falling out ?

In a very big way. Japan seems to be the contagion.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 04, 2024 09:34 PM (LkLld)

331 Pend Oreille is so deep they did submarine training there during WWII.

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 04, 2024 09:25 PM (iZbyp)

The USN is still there, but they play with large scale ship and sub models out on that lake now. Very hush-hush stuff based on what I've read.

Posted by: Ed L at August 04, 2024 09:35 PM (yRXSd)

332 327/
Yup, TRex is all over it...Japan down 7 percent.....

Posted by: Grateful at August 04, 2024 09:35 PM (IQ6Gq)

333 After way too long an absence I had a session at the private range I'm allowed to frequent and used the black powder revolvers I own, specifically the 2 Colts, an Army .44 and a Navy .36, my Remington new Model and the latest, a Rogers & Spencer .44.

Pleased to add they ran fine.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at August 04, 2024 09:36 PM (hKoQL)

334 JackStraw, you said watch what happens on Sunday and you were right.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 04, 2024 09:36 PM (5MvGY)

335 I can usually hit that peanut can on the first shot. If so, that's pretty much my fundamentals for the day. Everything after that is gravy.

Posted by: fd at August 04, 2024 09:36 PM (vFG9F)

336 Space Probe Taurus (1965)

Oh, goodie. Haven't had a cheesy SciFi flick in several weeks. Takes place in the far-off future of... 2000. Where everybody dresses and sounds like 1963. So retro.

Starts with a narrator... in a medium that says show don't tell... so you know it'll be "good." Directed by Selznick, but not that Selznick. Stars James Brown, but not that James Brown.

Starts off with a failed space mission - they blowed up real good - so it could have ended after five minutes, but we get a second mission.

Plus the music... top notch stock sounds by Marlin Skiles. He was the musical director on Up in Smoke -- no, not the Cheech & Chong movie, the 1957 one with Huntz Hall and the Bowery Boys.

Second mission has a gal crew member - so progressive. She's played by Francine York, who had a long career in lots of things like Wild, Wild West, Batman, Mister Ed, Hazel, Bewitched, I Dream of Jeannie, Green Acres... among many more.

So far, I've watched as far as the second mission taking off. Might watch the rest sometime...!

Posted by: mindful webworker - in the far-flung future at August 04, 2024 09:36 PM (tIWUF)

337 Posted by: JackStraw at August 04, 2024 09:34 PM (LkLld)

Could be the markets anticipating higher oil prices as the temperature and pressure in the Middle East begins to rise.

Posted by: Ed L at August 04, 2024 09:37 PM (yRXSd)

338 OK well no ocean in Wyoming. But mountain lakes!!!
------
What in tarn nation?!
Posted by: andycanuck


Are you pond-ering a pun thread? I'm sure the horde has a slough of them.

Posted by: mikeski at August 04, 2024 09:38 PM (DgGvY)

339 Weasel.... please accept my sincere condolences on the passing of Weaselcat V2. Fifteen years. I know the pain, and know that it's coming, again.

Ed L. I can attest to Weasel's prowess with the snubbies. Some people can shoot 'em really well, and Weasel is one of those people.

Fact is, a Snubbie Session might not be a terrible idea for October?


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 04, 2024 09:41 PM (kQgoX)

340 Are you pond-ering a pun thread? I'm sure the horde has a slough of them.
Posted by: mikeski at August 04, 2024 09:38 PM (DgGvY)
Well at least we now know what the 'shreiking eels' were in Princess Bride.They was ass-eels.

Posted by: Eromero at August 04, 2024 09:41 PM (LHPAg)

341 Posted by: Jim at August 04, 2024 09:41 PM (kQgoX)
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Thanks Jim. Yep, I miss her!

Sure - remind me to toss a couple into the bag!

Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 09:43 PM (uGpeQ)

342 Oh no, missed Weasel Cat going over the Rainbow Bridge.

May you have peace Weasel and fond remembrances of your furry friend.

Posted by: whig at August 04, 2024 09:43 PM (qdbNv)

343 Could be the markets anticipating higher oil prices as the temperature and pressure in the Middle East begins to rise.
Posted by: Ed L at August 04, 2024 09:37 PM (yRXSd)

Probably. Unleaded up 20 cents/ gal. In 2 days.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 04, 2024 09:44 PM (4Med0)

344 Fact is, a Snubbie Session might not be a terrible idea for October?


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 04, 2024 09:41 PM (kQgoX)

I do have some Colt snubbies I could bring if someone twisted my arm...

Posted by: Ed L at August 04, 2024 09:44 PM (yRXSd)

345 If I were Musk I would buy Japan.

Posted by: Reforger at August 04, 2024 09:44 PM (xcIvR)

346 Posted by: whig at August 04, 2024 09:43 PM (qdbNv)
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Thanks whig. Appreciate it. It's amazing how attached we get to our little critters.

Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 09:45 PM (uGpeQ)

347 Howdy 🤠

Posted by: Puddleglum drive by pew pew at August 04, 2024 09:46 PM (hI2/7)

348 JackStraw, the bottom falling out ?

Posted by: Ben Had at August 04, 2024 09:33 PM (5MvGY)

No...probably a correction of the sharp run-up we have had over the last month. The market has done well this year. If it is flat until Trump wins, then that is still a good return.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 04, 2024 09:46 PM (d9fT1)

349 What happened to the Cigar Vixen chick?

Posted by: RIlurker at August 04, 2024 09:47 PM (hd71H)

350 Hard to believe that somebody would try to fix a bent or damaged set of feed lips. I've been buying magazines for by Walther P99AS when I see them and can afford them. With Walther ending P99 production, I'm wondering how long they'll continue to make magazines for them.
Posted by: Ed L

I retired my Sig West German Army P6 for that very reason. Sig's new version of the P225 (P6 for the Army in Germany) did not use the same mags and ProMags are generally horrible in any case.

Back in the day, lots of people with surplus AR hi cap mags back in the AWB days used to piddle with repairing mag lips and Brownells actually had a tool for it which had decidedly mixed reviews.

Posted by: whig at August 04, 2024 09:47 PM (qdbNv)

351 >>Could be the markets anticipating higher oil prices as the temperature and pressure in the Middle East begins to rise.

That's certainly a concern but I think this is bigger than that. This is structural. Japan is in a free fall right now with deflationary pressure. Everything is crashing right now, even Crypto markets.

You can only keep a balloon inflated for just so long.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 04, 2024 09:47 PM (LkLld)

352 327 Anybody watching what's happening in the financial markets right now?
Posted by: JackStraw at August 04, 2024 09:32 PM (LkLld)

Yep..with a Vegas 5 Gordo...

If you haven't sold by now (and I have not), hold until November...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at August 04, 2024 09:48 PM (t7Bqe)

353 346 Posted by: whig at August 04, 2024 09:43 PM (qdbNv)
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Thanks whig. Appreciate it. It's amazing how attached we get to our little critters.
Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 09:45 PM (uGpeQ)
MadisonTheCat is my dog. Don't know what I'd do without her. Weasel, go adopt a kitten.

Posted by: Eromero at August 04, 2024 09:48 PM (LHPAg)

354 Posted by: RIlurker at August 04, 2024 09:47 PM (hd71H)
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Good question. I can't recall what happened now but it had something to do with re-posting her vids as I recall. I will go back and check.

Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 09:49 PM (uGpeQ)

355 Thanks whig. Appreciate it. It's amazing how attached we get to our little critters.
Posted by: Weasel
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We had to put my mother's cat down who was 19 for kidney failure this summer as well. She was allowed to keep her cat in memory care and she had little memory but was so afraid of her little cat dying. Adopted it shortly before my dad passed.

Sweet cat to me and we are afraid it will put mom in a tailspin. Getting close to where she no longer knows who we are.

Posted by: whig at August 04, 2024 09:49 PM (qdbNv)

356 345 If I were Musk I would buy Japan.
Posted by: Reforger at August 04, 2024 09:44 PM (xcIvR)


I tried buying an Empire once.
Once.

Posted by: Didius Julianus at August 04, 2024 09:50 PM (gKWVE)

357 351 That's certainly a concern but I think this is bigger than that. This is structural. You can only keep a balloon inflated for just so long.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 04, 2024 09:47 PM (LkLld)
***
This. I do feel for Japan though. Zero growth with zero rates. Limited natural resources. Aging population. etc.

Posted by: TRex at August 04, 2024 09:50 PM (IQ6Gq)

358 That's certainly a concern but I think this is bigger than that. This is structural. Japan is in a free fall right now with deflationary pressure. Everything is crashing right now, even Crypto markets.

You can only keep a balloon inflated for just so long.
Posted by: JackStraw

I raked in half my winnings from the market and the rest is in an index fund annuity now with a 20 percent downside protection. Kept some in stocks for inflation hedging.

Posted by: whig at August 04, 2024 09:51 PM (qdbNv)

359 Thanks Weasel and horde for another gub thread. I learned stuff. Condolences to Weasel for kitty. Best wishes for the coming week to y'all.

Posted by: TRex at August 04, 2024 09:52 PM (IQ6Gq)

360 If you haven't sold by now (and I have not), hold until November...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at August 04, 2024 09:48 PM (t7Bqe)
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That's my thinking.

Posted by: Weasel at August 04, 2024 09:53 PM (uGpeQ)

361 Thanks for the thread, Weasel. Sorry to hear about weaselcat v2.

Posted by: scampydog at August 04, 2024 09:53 PM (41CYW)

362 >>I raked in half my winnings from the market and the rest is in an index fund annuity now with a 20 percent downside protection. Kept some in stocks for inflation hedging.

Imagine if you were as smart as the MBA geniuses at Morgan Stanley.

heh

https://tinyurl.com/mrempz8a

Posted by: JackStraw at August 04, 2024 09:55 PM (LkLld)

363 Japan can handle whatever happens to them. Sure, they do some crazy shit, but look at this country. I would guess they are better suited to survive a calamity than we are.

Posted by: fd at August 04, 2024 09:55 PM (vFG9F)

364 328 We do need to talk about the 8.6 Blackout, Weasel. Is it a flash in the pan, or will it be around in 10 years?
Posted by: GWB

Shooting suppressed with subsonic heavy bullets, it is ok. But the Bushmaster 450 and the SoCom 458 might be better choices. The 450 Bushmaster uses 44 Magnum bullets of which there are quite a few hunting ones perfect for the velocity generated. The SoCom has the option of shooting subsonic. The Bushmaster ballistics resemble teh Marlin 444 and the SoCom is more like the old 45/70 in ballistics except shorter range and shorter barrel needed.

Brass and factory ammo are available for both and they both fit in an AR15 package albeit with fairly stout recoil.

Posted by: whig at August 04, 2024 09:55 PM (qdbNv)

365 Thanks all for the Glock mag info. Have to call it a night.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at August 04, 2024 09:56 PM (/HDaX)

366 Years ago... this was my go to range.

https://ibb.co/bjtTy8k

Back yard.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 04, 2024 09:56 PM (Q4IgG)

367 Imagine if you were as smart as the MBA geniuses at Morgan Stanley.

heh

https://tinyurl.com/mrempz8a
Posted by: JackStraw
========
There is a time to be a bear and a time to be a bull but there is never a good time to be a hog in the market. They get slaughtered.

Posted by: whig at August 04, 2024 09:57 PM (qdbNv)

368 *glances at his watch*

Posted by: Walter Freeman at August 04, 2024 09:57 PM (qFZnV)

369 We had to put my mother's cat down who was 19 for kidney failure this summer as well. She was allowed to keep her cat in memory care and she had little memory but was so afraid of her little cat dying. Adopted it shortly before my dad passed.

Sweet cat to me and we are afraid it will put mom in a tailspin. Getting close to where she no longer knows who we are.
Posted by: whig
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So sorry to hear this.

My cat Bingley has been such a big help since I moved mom in with me. She always lights up when he appears, even if she's feeling down or confused. (Sometimes I deliberately use him for this very purpose.) Bing is a big ole snuggle bug and eats up the extra attention he gets from her.

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 04, 2024 09:57 PM (iZbyp)

370 348 JackStraw, the bottom falling out ?

Posted by: Ben Had at August 04, 2024 09:33 PM (5MvGY)

No...probably a correction of the sharp run-up we have had over the last month. The market has done well this year. If it is flat until Trump wins, then that is still a good return.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 04, 2024 09:46 PM (d9fT1)

This. Smoke em if you got em, or uncork sumpin' nice you been keepin'. Trigger discipline will deliver good returns. Next week could be a target rich environment (lookin atchoo, Intel..)

Posted by: Joe Kidd at August 04, 2024 09:58 PM (t7Bqe)

371 MHSUONT up!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at August 04, 2024 09:58 PM (hOUT3)

372 My cat Bingley has been such a big help since I moved mom in with me. She always lights up when he appears, even if she's feeling down or confused. (Sometimes I deliberately use him for this very purpose.) Bing is a big ole snuggle bug and eats up the extra attention he gets from her.
Posted by: screaming in digital

Wish Bingley a long and happy cat life and glad your mom has a furry friend for this time. My mom's doctors at the memory and aging clinic of the state univ med school think that furry friends really help those stuggling with their dementia. My mom's facility is one of the few I have ever heard of that allow small dogs and cats for their residents. Sandy really helped my mom with her struggles after moving in three years ago.

Posted by: whig at August 04, 2024 10:01 PM (qdbNv)

373 Night y'all.

Posted by: whig at August 04, 2024 10:02 PM (qdbNv)

374 Imagine if you were as smart as the MBA geniuses at Morgan Stanley.

heh

https://tinyurl.com/mrempz8a


I opened the link and scrolled down to see the sub-heading "This Time It's Different." Those are word that should set off alarms. It's just another way of saying "What can be... Unburdened by what has been."

Posted by: Oddbob at August 04, 2024 10:08 PM (/y8xj)

375 "Does anyone have experience with the Beretta PX 4?"

I just bought one a couple months ago in 40 cal.

I've put about 500 rounds through it.

I had one failed ejection on the second mag but since then no issues.

I've never shot anything other than 9 and 38 and 45 cal but the recoil seems to be low and manageable.

The trigger pull is absolutely flat.

Not that it's that important but I think it's a beautiful gun. It's the Italian way.

The people at the range say it's a great gun.

Posted by: pawn at August 05, 2024 01:45 AM (QB+5g)

376 It's a Compact and I have large hands. I would go with the full size if you weren't concerned with concealability.

Posted by: pawn at August 05, 2024 01:49 AM (QB+5g)

377 Instead of SEH videos we should have videos from Weasel Acres stressing arcane topics like stance, grip, sight alignment and trigger mechanics

Posted by: MikeCLT at August 05, 2024 06:16 AM (FO8do)

378 It's a Compact and I have large hands. I would go with the full size if you weren't concerned with concealability.
Posted by: pawn at August 05, 2024 01:49 AM (QB+5g)

Thanks, Pawn. I haven't been able to find a PX4 in the local stores, so I haven't been able to hold one.

Posted by: mrp at August 05, 2024 09:09 AM (rj6Yv)

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