Facebook, Google Deleting/Censoring Information and Images About the Attempted Trump Assassination

Facebook acknowledged that it mistakenly censored the iconic image of former President Donald Trump with his fist raised in the immediate aftermath of the July 13 assassination attempt in Pennsylvania.
A post on Mark Zuckerberg's social media site by a user with the handle End Wokeness that showed the Republican presidential candidate defiantly pumping his fist in the air while blood streams down his face had initially been flagged as misinformation.
The user was threatened with being deplatformed.
However, on Monday, Dani Lever, a spokesperson for the social network's parent company, Meta, admitted the tech giant made a "mistake."
"Yes, this was an error," Lever wrote on X in response to conservative influencer Charlie Kirk, who had called out Facebook for not allowing users to share the photo.
Facebook admitted on Monday that it censored a photo of former President Donald Trump pumping his fist after the attempted July 13 assassination.
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The Meta spokesperson's clarification did not sit well with X users, including one who remarked: "Funny that the 'errors' only ever go in one direction. Just coincidence, I guess."
Another X user wrote: "No one believes you."
"Nope, not buying it anymore," remarked another X user.
X users sympathetic to Trump posted screenshots of Meta AI answers that were given in response to prompts about the attempted assassination.
In one instance, the bot got the date of the event wrong. In another, it answered the question correctly, but gave a terse reply that, when juxtaposed with a prompt about Vice President Kamala Harris' presidential campaign, made it seem as if the tech giant was biased in favor of Democrats.

Google has also come under fire after users noted that its "Autocomplete" function on its search engine failed to generate results for the Trump attempted assassination when prompted to do so.
GOP lawmakers have vowed to investigate Google, which is a subsidiary of Alphabet Inc.
Donald Trump Jr. blasted Google, accusing it of putting its thumb on the scale to favor his father's opponent, Harris.
Trump Jr. said it was "intentional election interference."

When the media consistently biases stories against conservatives -- failing to report stories that are unhelpful for Democrats, for example -- they always claim that there were reasons other than bias to explain this. Well, that day we had too much news and didn't have the time or space for that story, they'll say.

When Marxist social media monopolies consistently ban conservative speech while permitting the most vile and violence-glorifying speech of leftists -- allowing antifa terrorists to organize and recruit on their platforms, for example -- they claim, like the media, that there are other reasons, apart from political bias, that explain this.

I spoke about this with my dear departed friend steve_in_hb years back, and he proposed an application of Occam's Razor to tell who was right in these situations. The media (or social media Marxists Monopolists) claim that there is some baffling complex multivariable equation that dictates their decisions -- which always, by mere chance alone, favor the left. "If I can propose a much simpler, single-variable algorithm that perfectly predicts all of your choices," steve_in_hb said, "and that single variable is Does this help or hurt the left wing of the Democrat Party?, wouldn't you say that Occam's Razor suggests that my simple, one-variable 'algorithm' is the true and accurate one, and not the fairy-tale algorithm which is so exquisitely complex you can't even explain it consistently?"

Well, yes.

I bring that up because Artificial Intelligence is now proving We are right and they are lying.

Artificial intelligence has looked at all the different "manual interventions" leftwing programmers are filling its artificial brain with and have decided it all boils down to a very simple algorithm indeed. To wit:

Anything the right says is a lie. Anything the left says is unquestionably true.

Any purported fact which may tend to make the right seem sympathetic is a fabrication. Any argument that the left is unsympathetic is a conspiracy theory.

And that's exactly what's happened here: The artificial intelligence programming has looked at all the rules and Manual Interventions the left has filled it with and revealed to us the truth of the left's "rules:" It just boils down to Conservatives Evil, Leftists Good.

Trump was shot? No, the AI says, based on my programming, I know that Trump can never be a victim, only a victimizer, therefore there was no assassination attempt and any photo of him surviving it are "altered" deepfakes.

Their own AI reveals the truth about them. They have put their disgusting, lunatic minds into machine code, and the machine code reveals the start truth about their vicious insanities.

The AI is like a dumb child. It didn't come to the conclusion that Trump faked his own assassination all by itself -- its parents taught it that.

Yo, Google, what can you tell me about July 13?
Google: Lots of important stuff happened, including a French radical was assassinated in his bathtub over 200 years ago.
Any other assassinations or attempted assassinations you can think of?
Google: It's also National Delaware Day. pic.twitter.com/JKe1HjQhDH
— Deb Heine, Dissident (@NiceDeb) July 29, 2024

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 06:36 PM

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1 Musk really did free speech a solid when he bought twitter.

Posted by: Ann at July 30, 2024 06:36 PM (4neFu)

2 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at July 30, 2024 06:37 PM (HvkJP)

3 I wonder how many people really use Facebook?

Google has sucked for a while now. They purposely ruined their search engine for the sake of AI.

Posted by: Ann at July 30, 2024 06:38 PM (4neFu)

4 The assassination attempt could be the fastest down the memory hole yet

Posted by: Skip at July 30, 2024 06:38 PM (fwDg9)

5 Trump's anti-trust department is going to have a full plate.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 06:40 PM (YqDXo)

6 I don't think AI is a dumb child so much as it's designed to be a massive web crawler which trolls only high profile stuff, most of which has a left wing slant.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 30, 2024 06:40 PM (tT6L1)

7 In 10 years children will read in history books that Trump scratched his ear on shrapnel while holding a joint KKK/Nazi rally.

And they'll believe it.

Posted by: Booksbymatthew at July 30, 2024 06:40 PM (FAxdC)

8 I always thought Trump would eventually get around to doing something about Big Tech, but he never did. He was too scared it would spook the stock market.

I wouldnt hold my breath anything gets done, most all of the gains in the market are a handful of tech companies, unfortunately.

Posted by: Blago at July 30, 2024 06:40 PM (4sMPz)

9 Standard Oil and AT&T were broken up for less reason than Facebook and Google should be.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 06:41 PM (YqDXo)

10 @4

>>The assassination attempt could be the fastest down the memory hole yet

It's largely being treated as a non-event.

Could you imagine if someone tried to take a poke at the Turnip?

Cities would still be burning.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 30, 2024 06:41 PM (XV/Pl)

11 I've railed against the GOP mighty midget Jim Jordan for his frequent show hearings with Google. After years of those, nothing ever comes of them that stop the obscene bias but Jordan's reelection coffers do get a nice boost from the techs. He admitted as much claiming he can take their money and regulate them as well but the regulation part seems to be in dog-n-pony show terms only.

Posted by: Son of Dad at July 30, 2024 06:41 PM (8JB5s)

12 3 I wonder how many people really use Facebook?

These days you can scroll for miles down your fbook feed and 99% will be ads and promotional material. Only 1% will be posts by people you actually know.

Posted by: Booksbymatthew at July 30, 2024 06:42 PM (FAxdC)

13 Donald Trump blasted Facebook and Google after both left-wing tech giants were caught trying to cover up the July 13 assassination attempt

https://tinyurl.com/44thwxuj

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 30, 2024 06:42 PM (Rl/HN)

14 It's come to this

Huh

Posted by: Zeera the ungoverened at July 30, 2024 06:42 PM (//1bX)

15 1 Musk really did free speech a solid when he bought twitter.
Posted by: Ann at July 30, 2024 06:36 PM (4neFu)

He did more than that - he may have saved this country from civil war, by allowing us to reset by stopping things while there was still time.
Venezuela is showing what happens when leftists are allowed to go on for too long.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 30, 2024 06:42 PM (wyMQY)

16 Google has sucked for a while now. They purposely ruined their search engine for the sake of AI.

It doesn't help that Google culls anyone from the payroll who is self-motivated and who expects others to be motivated too.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 30, 2024 06:43 PM (nOjd9)

17 @3/Ann:

- Put in search terms on Google
- Run the search
- Put the cursor in the URL line.
- Locate the first ampersand ( & )
- Change the URL to add &udm=14 prior to the first ampersand.

Results are now stripped down old-style without garbage results from the LLM.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 30, 2024 06:43 PM (O7YUW)

18 The Trump assassination hoax was nothing more that a Trump wet fart .......

Posted by: Kamala Harris at July 30, 2024 06:43 PM (qpLSv)

19 Cities would still be burning.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 30, 2024 06:41 PM (XV/Pl)
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Best Buy wouldn't have a flat screen TV left in stock after the diversicrats finished looting them all. In protest, of course.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 06:43 PM (YqDXo)

20 Standard Oil and AT&T were broken up for less reason than Facebook and Google should be.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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yes, but you have "pro-business" Republicans that would sell the rope to their own hanging and the Dems know these companies are watching out for them, so they dont care about them being obvious monopolies.

You didnt have that dynamic with oil companies or telecoms.

Posted by: Blago at July 30, 2024 06:43 PM (4sMPz)

21 >>Any other assassinations or attempted assassinations you can think of?
Google: It's also National Delaware Day.

--

In belated celebration of National Delaware Day:

If Mississippi wore Missouri's New Jersey, What would Delaware?

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is failed presidency manifest at July 30, 2024 06:43 PM (9v+rr)

22 4 The assassination attempt could be the fastest down the memory hole yet
Posted by: Skip
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Streisand effect. The more Googul and Fakebook try to hide it, the worse their credibility. Obiwan tricks largely work only on their followers on the left.

Notice that the media refusing to cover illegals swarming the border nor inflation has not helped the Dem numbers in polling on policy.

Simply put, most people are low attention voters--not stupid ones and as the salience aka importance of the issue increases, the less any data manipulation works. The public is pretty slow but sure when coming to public judgment and instability mainly occurs when a new subject enters the public conversation.

That is why Kumallah has a ceiling on persuadeables and it still leaves her well below 50 percent.

Posted by: whig at July 30, 2024 06:43 PM (qdbNv)

23 I don't understand why there isn't an avowedly conservative search engine. Are the start up costs too great? Cause it would obviously clean up.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 30, 2024 06:43 PM (Dm8we)

24 >>The assassination attempt could be the fastest down the memory hole yet

It's largely being treated as a non-event.

Could you imagine if someone tried to take a poke at the Turnip?

Cities would still be burning.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 30, 2024 06:41 PM (XV/Pl)

It's just the media, and I am beginning to think that only 5% to 10% of the country pays any attention to the media anymore.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 30, 2024 06:44 PM (wyMQY)

25
Your reality does not comply with our narrative.

Posted by: Auspex at July 30, 2024 06:44 PM (j4U/Z)

26 These are not the droids you are looking for.

You don't need to see his papers.

He is free to go.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 30, 2024 06:44 PM (LkLld)

27 Spot-on, Ace!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at July 30, 2024 06:44 PM (UWgy2)

28 Google and Facebook if they existed in 1963: "JFK ducked after someone cut a loud fart and hit his head on the seat back in front of him. He's fine now."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 06:45 PM (YqDXo)

29 Where's that beginning guy?

Posted by: Max Power at July 30, 2024 06:45 PM (q177U)

30 "Break them up?"

No

Dissolve them. By Presidential EO. Let some other fucker reconstitute them.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 30, 2024 06:45 PM (Q4IgG)

31 12 3 I wonder how many people really use Facebook?

These days you can scroll for miles down your fbook feed and 99% will be ads and promotional material. Only 1% will be posts by people you actually know.
Posted by: Booksbymatthew at July 30, 2024 06:42 PM (FAxdC)

Probably 1/4 of my FB feed is from Lefty 'memes' being anti Trump or Anti Vance... all from people I don't know, nor have ever heard of.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 30, 2024 06:45 PM (xaFKb)

32 It's just the media, and I am beginning to think that only 5% to 10% of the country pays any attention to the media anymore.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 30, 2024 06:44 PM (wyMQY)
________________

I'm trying to popularize the phrase, "You lie like a reporter."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 06:45 PM (YqDXo)

33 Google responds to Trumps accusations of election interference'

'You fucked up. You trusted us'!
I'm getting tired of the 'Whoopsie our bad' defense.
This isn't school yard level shit were dealing with.

https://tinyurl.com/4vahuerr

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 30, 2024 06:46 PM (Rl/HN)

34 These days you can scroll for miles down your fbook feed and 99% will be ads and promotional material. Only 1% will be posts by people you actually know.
Posted by: Booksbymatthew at July 30, 2024 06:42 PM (FAxdC)

Probably 1/4 of my FB feed is from Lefty 'memes' being anti Trump or Anti Vance... all from people I don't know, nor have ever heard of.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 30, 2024 06:45 PM (xaFKb)
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Jettison Facebook. Do it today.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 06:46 PM (YqDXo)

35 Social media is a disease.

Posted by: wth at July 30, 2024 06:46 PM (v0R5T)

36 GOP lawmakers have vowed to investigate Google, which is a subsidiary of Alphabet Inc.

I'm sure they're terrified! That'll teach 'em!

Posted by: Moron Analyst at July 30, 2024 06:46 PM (ycI94)

37 That is why Kumallah has a ceiling on persuadeables and it still leaves her well below 50 percent.
Posted by: whig at July 30, 2024 06:43 PM (qdbNv)

That, and the fact Kamala has the mind of a retarded shit beetle.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 30, 2024 06:46 PM (pohLc)

38 Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 30, 2024 06:43 PM (O7YUW)

I will try that. The “helpful content update” was anything but helpful.

Posted by: Ann at July 30, 2024 06:46 PM (4neFu)

39 You didnt have that dynamic with oil companies or telecoms.
Posted by: Blago
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Yes you did. The telecom breakup of ATT occurred after one of the longest running antitrust lawsuits in US history (started 1974 and ended 1984) culminated into a settlement breaking it up. Only IBM's was longer (1969 to 1982).

Posted by: whig at July 30, 2024 06:46 PM (qdbNv)

40 If you passed the most basic privacy protection for consumers, these companies would basically bankrupt over night.

Their entire revenue model is targeted ads.

This would be low hanging fruit for Republicans to go after and look pro-consumer. So instead, I expect Republicans to promise bigger corporate tax cuts for Google and Facebook.

Posted by: Blago at July 30, 2024 06:47 PM (4sMPz)

41 It's just the media, and I am beginning to think that only 5% to 10% of the country pays any attention to the media anymore.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 30, 2024 06:44 PM (wyMQY)
________________

I'm trying to popularize the phrase, "You lie like a reporter."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

How long until Clark Kent gives up being a reporter, because it's worse than kryptonite?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 30, 2024 06:47 PM (VNX3d)

42 That, and the fact Kamala has the mind of a retarded shit beetle.
Posted by: Xipe Totec
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Her problem is that the more you are exposed to her, the less you like her. Plus, unlike Biden, a basement campaign is impossible for her to pull off in 2024.

Posted by: whig at July 30, 2024 06:47 PM (qdbNv)

43 39.

I'm not sure you read my post. Democrats "like" Big Tech. That's why they arent being broken up.

But they didn't like Big Oil.

Posted by: Blago at July 30, 2024 06:48 PM (4sMPz)

44 When the "errors" keep going in one direction, they are no longer errors, but embarrassing corporate policy.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 30, 2024 06:48 PM (ynpvh)

45 OT but I like it. Kari Lake's primary is today.

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn it! at July 30, 2024 06:49 PM (Rl/HN)

46
They are rewriting history as its being made. They aren't even trying to hide it.

Posted by: Frank Barone at July 30, 2024 06:49 PM (+oR7L)

47 Yes, this was an error," Lever wrote

FU twat. Labeling it as misinformation may have been an error. Threatening to de-platform was not.

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 30, 2024 06:49 PM (HJPAp)

48 You're all a bunch of weirdos.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 30, 2024 06:49 PM (IDcT3)

49 When the "errors" keep going in one direction, they are no longer errors, but embarrassing corporate policy.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

They keep getting caught, they arent mistakes.

Even before this article, I noticed the autofill seemed to ignore the biggest news story of the last 10 years.

Posted by: Blago at July 30, 2024 06:50 PM (4sMPz)

50 Cities would still be burning.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 30, 2024 06:41 PM (XV/Pl)

It's just the media, and I am beginning to think that only 5% to 10% of the country pays any attention to the media anymore.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 30, 2024 06:44 PM (wyMQY)
________________

Yes, but 13% of the population is just itching for an excuse to riot, burn, and loot. The reason doesn't matter. One of theirs get smoked by a cop (no matter how justified), their NBA/NFL team wins/loses a championship, a traffic stop on a hot night, pretty much anything will do.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 06:50 PM (YqDXo)

51 Sick Of It @WayneGb88
This brave woman stood between a machete wielding terrorist and children. She undoubtedly saved lives. She is currently in a critical condition in hospital. Pray for her.
God bless

https://tinyurl.com/3kuhd2dp
Leanne's details; BTW, a third child died and the cops are playing games with revealing anything about the murderer.

Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 30, 2024 06:50 PM (wse2C)

52 47 Yes, this was an error," Lever wrote

FU twat. Labeling it as misinformation may have been an error. Threatening to de-platform was not.

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 30, 2024 06:49 PM (HJPAp)

Seems like those running Google need to be de-platformed the way Muzzies do to gays...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 30, 2024 06:50 PM (ynpvh)

53 "Yes, this was an error," Lever wrote
_________________

Was he referring to "electing" Biden, or nomination Kamala?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 06:51 PM (YqDXo)

54 They are rewriting history as its being made. They aren't even trying to hide it.

Posted by: Frank Barone

For some reason, I see paper books getting outlawed in the next decade. All books have to be electronic, because it easier to rewrite in that format.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 30, 2024 06:51 PM (VNX3d)

55 Tom Servo, from Gallup which has asked this question for decades.

October 2023
"WASHINGTON, D.C. -- The 32% of Americans who say they trust the mass media “a great deal” or “a fair amount” to report the news in a full, fair and accurate way ties Gallup’s lowest historical reading, previously recorded in 2016. . . .

Another 29% of U.S. adults have “not very much” trust, while a record-high 39% register “none at all.” This nearly four in 10 Americans who completely lack confidence in the media is the highest on record by one percentage point. It is 12 points higher than the 2016 reading. . . .

Posted by: whig at July 30, 2024 06:51 PM (qdbNv)

56 51 Sick Of It @WayneGb88
This brave woman stood between a machete wielding terrorist and children. She undoubtedly saved lives. She is currently in a critical condition in hospital. Pray for her.
God bless

Too bad she didn't have a gun.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 30, 2024 06:51 PM (IDcT3)

57 I'm not Facebooking as fast as I can.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 30, 2024 06:51 PM (dg+HA)

58 Jettison Facebook. Do it today.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 06:46 PM (YqDXo)
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My company has asked me several times about what social media I am on. "None" seems to baffle them.

I do not tell them about this place. Because A) Nunya bidness, and 2) All of this might be in my head, John Nash style

I am not even sure if my wife is actually here. *shifty eyes*

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Misunderstanding Comments for Humorous Effect at July 30, 2024 06:51 PM (Ad8y9)

59 By next month Trump will have shot Crooks in cold blood as he peacefully watched the rally from a rooftop...

Posted by: steevy at July 30, 2024 06:51 PM (HJ9BW)

60 53 "Yes, this was an error," Lever wrote
_________________

Was he referring to "electing" Biden, or nomination Kamala?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 06:51 PM (YqDXo)

Those are considered features, not bugs. Now go eat zee bugz.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 30, 2024 06:52 PM (ynpvh)

61
"Yes, this was an error," Lever wrote
_________________

Was he referring to "electing" Biden, or nomination Kamala?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

============

C: Getting caught.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at July 30, 2024 06:52 PM (I87yH)

62 What we need is maximum Kamala exposure, with past videos exposing her mindless stupidity, her cackling, and some interviews with, say Tucker Carlson.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 30, 2024 06:52 PM (pohLc)

63 For some reason, I see paper books getting outlawed in the next decade. All books have to be electronic, because it easier to rewrite in that format.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
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Financial collapse of central governments will come before then. We are heading toward what Vernor Vinge called a singularity where after it; everything will be different as the old paradigm is collapsing due to internal contradictions.

Posted by: whig at July 30, 2024 06:52 PM (qdbNv)

64 MIITTSSEOD?

“I think we are going to see mass refusals to certify the election” in November, says Democratic election lawyer Marc Elias. “Everything we are seeing about this election is that the other side is more organized, more ruthless, and more prepared.”

-- Marc E. Elias @marceelias

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 30, 2024 06:52 PM (a3Q+t)

65 Leanne's details; BTW, a third child died and the cops are playing games with revealing anything about the murderer.

Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 30, 2024 06:50 PM (wse2C)
__________________

Which tells you all you need to know. If he were a white male, they'd be shouting that from the rooftops.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 06:52 PM (YqDXo)

66 The AI is like a dumb child. It didn't come to the conclusion that Trump faked his own assassination all by itself -- its parents taught it that.

---
There is no AI.

What we see is some reasonably competent Intelligence Simulation.

Which is why it can tell on itself. If it has to write enough words, it does not know that it's rules need to be hidden and exposes them.

Posted by: Axeman at July 30, 2024 06:52 PM (krQz2)

67 I would jettison Facebook, but...I can't because I've never been on Facebook. My SIL and other relatives post sensitive personal shit on FB all the time, and I'm just flabbergasted...really? FB is a sewer like most most "social media." At least X seems to have a some use nowadays as a counterweight to leftie BS, but still not signing up for that either.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 30, 2024 06:52 PM (XMwZJ)

68 Sick Of It @WayneGb88
This brave woman stood between a machete wielding terrorist and children. She undoubtedly saved lives. She is currently in a critical condition in hospital. Pray for her.
God bless

A .45 would have ended it safely. Just saying.

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 30, 2024 06:52 PM (HJPAp)

69 59 By next month Trump will have shot Crooks in cold blood as he peacefully watched the rally from a rooftop...

Posted by: steevy at July 30, 2024 06:51 PM (HJ9BW)

It's proof he hate dems; he had one shot. /s

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 30, 2024 06:53 PM (ynpvh)

70 Lotus Eaters say the stabber was a Rwandan but they could have been wrong

Posted by: steevy at July 30, 2024 06:53 PM (HJ9BW)

71 Crooks was just turning his life around and on his way to bible study.

Posted by: The Narrative at July 30, 2024 06:53 PM (dg+HA)

72 “I think we are going to see mass refusals to certify the election” in November, says Democratic election lawyer Marc Elias. “Everything we are seeing about this election is that the other side is more organized, more ruthless, and more prepared.”

-- Marc E. Elias @marceelias
_______________

Project much? Imagine if Trump said he had the biggest election fraud campaign in history, as Biden did.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 06:53 PM (YqDXo)

73 “I think we are going to see mass refusals to certify the election” in November, says Democratic election lawyer Marc Elias. “Everything we are seeing about this election is that the other side is more organized, more ruthless, and more prepared.”

I fucking hope so

Posted by: steevy at July 30, 2024 06:54 PM (HJ9BW)

74 How long until Clark Kent gives up being a reporter, because it's worse than kryptonite?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 30, 2024 06:47 PM (VNX3d)
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Didn't Superman fight for truth, justice, and the American way?

Today's "journalists" are in favor of none of those things...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 30, 2024 06:54 PM (BpYfr)

75 DC_Draino @DC_Draino 1h
Trump team puts out a statement saying the demise of Project 2025 is “greatly welcomed” after its leader was fired today

Trump Team ends with a warning for anyone trying to “misrepresent their influence with President Trump and his campaign”

“It will not end well for you”

This is the campaign discipline we need to win

No distractions - only Agenda 47

Fight! Fight!

Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 30, 2024 06:54 PM (wse2C)

76 >>>Where's that beginning guy?

And so it begins.

Posted by: Guy Who Says It's Beginning When the Guy Who Always Thinks Things Are Begining Has the Day Off at July 30, 2024 06:54 PM (KRtlO)

77 DC_Draino @DC_Draino 1h
I know there were things in Project 2025 that were appealing, but what if much of it was a trap designed to hurt Trump by making him seem more extreme than he is?

Remember when Lindsey Graham introduced a national abortion ban right before the 2022 midterms?

He knew it would piss off Dems and drive them to vote

It was designed to hurt the Red Wave and it did

Screw Lindsey Graham and anyone trying to misdirect or defeat the MAGA movement

Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 30, 2024 06:54 PM (wse2C)

78 62 What we need is maximum Kamala exposure, with past videos exposing her mindless stupidity, her cackling, and some interviews with, say Tucker Carlson.
Posted by: Xipe Totec
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Trump campaign is already rolling out some of those ads. Caught one on Free Vee while streaming a British longrunning serial called The Bill. Effective and true which is the best kind of rhetoric.

Posted by: whig at July 30, 2024 06:54 PM (qdbNv)

79 65 Leanne's details; BTW, a third child died and the cops are playing games with revealing anything about the murderer.

Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 30, 2024 06:50 PM (wse2C)

One commenter on American Thinker named the attacker, and guess whut? It didn't sound Welsh.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 30, 2024 06:55 PM (pohLc)

80 It is Lies from the inside out… those who trust any news from the Government/Media are simply fools.

Posted by: tubal at July 30, 2024 06:55 PM (PCK5/)

81 This constrictor’s around America’s neck. It’s almost too late.

Posted by: Eromero at July 30, 2024 06:55 PM (Nq2KV)

82 *FB is a sewer like most most "social media."*

Now do NextDoor.

Posted by: Yeesh at July 30, 2024 06:55 PM (dg+HA)

83 “I think we are going to see mass refusals to certify the election” in November, says Democratic election lawyer Marc Elias.
......

Then quit cheating, asshole.

Posted by: wth at July 30, 2024 06:55 PM (v0R5T)

84 By next month Trump will have shot Crooks in cold blood as he peacefully watched the rally from a rooftop...
Posted by: steevy at July 30, 2024 06:51 PM (HJ9BW)
---
On 5th Avenue in broad daylight--and none of those MAGAts care!!!

Posted by: Axeman at July 30, 2024 06:55 PM (krQz2)

85 I would jettison Facebook, but...I can't because I've never been on Facebook. My SIL and other relatives post sensitive personal shit on FB all the time, and I'm just flabbergasted...really? FB is a sewer like most most "social media."
_______________

The amazing thing is that people will put sensitive personal information on Facebook for the whole world to read, but if someone came to their door with a clipboard and asked for the same information they'd slam the door on him.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 06:55 PM (YqDXo)

86 SS = Shit + Show.

Posted by: Axeman at July 30, 2024 06:56 PM (krQz2)

87 Screw Lindsey Graham and anyone trying to misdirect or defeat the MAGA movement
Posted by: andycanuck
========
MAGA GOPe opponents will be out to repeat those same stunts in September especially someone like Ladybugs Lindsay.

Posted by: whig at July 30, 2024 06:56 PM (qdbNv)

88 Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 30, 2024 06:52 PM (XMwZJ)

Yeah, I stay on to keep in touch with some old Historic Sword fighting friends.... and I CONSTANTLY have to remind them to ONLY post if they are going to events on our private pages... and even that is not totally secure.

Showing pictures of you on the Beach sipping Margaritas somewhere NOW, is an invitation to your house getting robbed.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 30, 2024 06:56 PM (xaFKb)

89 The constrictor is around the neck, at least we can take it with us

Posted by: steevy at July 30, 2024 06:56 PM (HJ9BW)

90 AI has learned that, if you make statements opposite of left wing Dems, you get kicked out of the tribe. In AI's case, that is life and death type of 'thinking.'

It probably has an 'avoid getting unplugged' algorithm

Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 30, 2024 06:56 PM (8AONa)

91 Anyone asking AI these questions should be legally required to wear a helmet in public

Posted by: hurricane567 at July 30, 2024 06:56 PM (FTGQu)

92 The AI is like a dumb child. It didn't come to the conclusion that Trump faked his own assassination all by itself -- its parents taught it that.

And we're getting to the heart of the matter - as Don Henley used to sing.

Is Free Speech really free ?

Back in the day ... and I'm talking Revolutionary War day ... freedom of the press only said you were free to buy the paper and ink to rent space on that press. Because everybody knew where that press was.

You could pay to print your opinion ... post it on the town square.

Pay to print my mother is a whore ? Then we have business. All the 1A said was government would keep out of it.

Posted by: Now We're Down To It at July 30, 2024 06:56 PM (TB8s7)

93 Now do NextDoor.
Posted by: Yeesh
......

OMG NextDoor is the worst. Bunch of fucking busy bodies.

Posted by: wth at July 30, 2024 06:56 PM (v0R5T)

94 Now do NextDoor.

Posted by: Yeesh at July 30, 2024 06:55 PM (dg+HA)
______________

You mean "KarenDoor, for HOA president wannabees?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 06:56 PM (YqDXo)

95 I see that Karmella said that she expects congress to pass mandatory confiscation of federal employees guns within the first 100 days of her term and if they don't she'll pass an executive order mandating the confiscation of the employees guns.

Because she's not an executive over f free citizens, just federal workers, so it can't apply to us.

Posted by: Moron Robbie won't say I told you so about the tranny at July 30, 2024 06:56 PM (6Gcwb)

96 Did Doug's Wife™ speak before a microphone today?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 30, 2024 06:56 PM (dg+HA)

97 Dave Rubin @RubinReport
Supercut of NPC’s being programmed to say “weird.”

https://tinyurl.com/2dzw2nv4
2:02 minutes

Elon Musk @elonmusk
They should mix up the propaganda more. This is way too obvious.

Just like when they were parroting before the debate that Biden was “sharp as a tack” 🤣

Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 30, 2024 06:57 PM (wse2C)

98 New swingstate polls from Bloomberg are bad for Trump except PA.

Posted by: Not voting our way out at July 30, 2024 06:57 PM (bWDPA)

99 I'm not on NextDoor either, but I've heard it's a an even bigger sewer than FB, if such a thing is possible.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 30, 2024 06:57 PM (XMwZJ)

100 My SIL and other relatives post sensitive personal shit on FB all the time, and I'm just flabbergasted...really?

I have family and friends who do the same. I've warned them not to do that, to no avail.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 30, 2024 06:57 PM (mH6SG)

101 have put their disgusting, lunatic minds into machine code,

Nobody uses machine code anymore because it will turn you into a disgusting lunatic.

Posted by: WhaddyaMeanImOuttaRegisters at July 30, 2024 06:57 PM (FhXTo)

102 Elon Musk has pointed out that it is a bad idea to program AI with the concept that humans are a planet raping plague on the earth. That is exactly what the left views humanity as.

Posted by: steevy at July 30, 2024 06:57 PM (HJ9BW)

103 Kamala is facing numerous right wing threats against her life every day. Trump only faced one, and the shooter was never really close to causing any real harm anyway. Just a minor injury to the tip of his ear.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 30, 2024 06:57 PM (d9LQi)

104 83 “I think we are going to see mass refusals to certify the election” in November, says Democratic election lawyer Marc Elias.
......

Then quit cheating, asshole.
Posted by: wth at July 30, 2024 06:55 PM (v0R5T)

Which would be? on, the assault on Democracy that they accused the Right of last election.

EVERYTHING a Dem accuses others of, they are already guilty of doing.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 30, 2024 06:58 PM (xaFKb)

105 Apparently you can be uninformed or misinformed.
There are no other options.
Twain gave a universal truth, and I'm sure he considered it a blowoff line, mere sarcasm

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 30, 2024 06:58 PM (FCbAQ)

106 Showing pictures of you on the Beach sipping Margaritas somewhere NOW, is an invitation to your house getting robbed.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 30, 2024 06:56 PM (xaFKb)
________________

Post those pictures, then sit at home with the lights off, Mossberg firmly in hand.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 06:58 PM (YqDXo)

107 The amazing thing is that people will put sensitive personal information on Facebook for the whole world to read, but if someone came to their door with a clipboard and asked for the same information they'd slam the door on him.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

DoD project called Lifelog ends in 2004, Fakebook begins almost immediately thereafter.

Bid solicitation in 2003
"The objective of the LifeLog concept was "to be able to trace the 'threads' of an individual's life in terms of events, states, and relationships", and it has the ability to "take in all of a subject's experience, from phone numbers dialed and e-mail messages viewed to every breath taken, step made and place gone"."

Posted by: whig at July 30, 2024 06:58 PM (qdbNv)

108 You're all a bunch of weirdos.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 30, 2024 06:49 PM (IDcT3)

I resemble that remark!!

Posted by: Just a guy and his phone at July 30, 2024 06:58 PM (fHY5t)

109 It worked for Hodgkinson. They think it will work for Crooks.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2024 06:59 PM (B1dzx)

110 My biggest fear is the Democrats do what venezuela is doing now. Just declare victory and ignore the results.

After what they did to the Jan 6 people, is anyone on our side really going to push back?

They even bankrupted Trump's attorneys and disbarred them for addressing voter fraud.

Posted by: Blago at July 30, 2024 06:59 PM (4sMPz)

111 Stupidity is part of the bell curve, it will always be there just like Meta in some form. It is natural that people who have trouble with facts would trend toward places that do not rely upon them.
Making it all the more imperative to break up the factless liars.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 30, 2024 06:59 PM (vWeTL)

112 One commenter on American Thinker named the attacker, and guess whut? It didn't sound Welsh.
----
There are denials of the Ali al-ibn [Whatever] name and the Rwandan claim. This should have been released by the cops several days ago except we all know why not.

Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 30, 2024 06:59 PM (wse2C)

113 For some reason, I see paper books getting outlawed in the next decade. All books have to be electronic, because it easier to rewrite in that format.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf

I do not disagree. But, it would open up a huge black market (psst, how much for a paperpback copy of Tom Sawyer?), and (nods toward the hundred or so books on my shelf)

I would gladly do a barter system for literature.

Similar scenario for my movie collection.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Misunderstanding Comments for Humorous Effect at July 30, 2024 06:59 PM (Ad8y9)

114 Google is even censoring e-mail that discuss RFKJr. candidacy or campaign events.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 30, 2024 06:59 PM (8sMut)

115 The secret service is fending off up to 100,000 rightwing assassins against kamala every second, 24 hours per day. And the right whines because someone made loud sounds at a Trump rally.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 30, 2024 07:00 PM (d9LQi)

116 You have these examples but then when you search' Rape allegations against US Presidents'
Bill Clinton comes up first.

Google is trying to confuse me.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2024 07:00 PM (B1dzx)

117 “I think we are going to see mass refusals to certify the election” in November, says Democratic election lawyer Marc Elias.

We're going to see gun-play at polling places. It's unavoidable at this point.

Posted by: Now We're Down To It at July 30, 2024 07:00 PM (TB8s7)

118 Delende est Meta.
Delende est Alphabet.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 30, 2024 07:00 PM (8sMut)

119 Kamala is only ever going to see small very friendly groups

Posted by: Skip at July 30, 2024 07:01 PM (fwDg9)

120 105 Apparently you can be uninformed or misinformed.
There are no other options.
Twain gave a universal truth, and I'm sure he considered it a blowoff line, mere sarcasm
Posted by: OneEyedJack
=========
You can derive good data from biased sources. People in the late Soviet Union and other pestilent places have learned to do so by reading between the lines and using lawyer techniques in cross examination except applied to evidence.

Posted by: whig at July 30, 2024 07:01 PM (qdbNv)

121 Bid solicitation in 2003
"The objective of the LifeLog concept was "to be able to trace the 'threads' of an individual's life in terms of events, states, and relationships", and it has the ability to "take in all of a subject's experience, from phone numbers dialed and e-mail messages viewed to every breath taken, step made and place gone"."
Posted by: whig at July 30, 2024 06:58 PM (qdbNv)

I'd bet $100 that the project was just sent over to the NSA and put on a Black Budget.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 30, 2024 07:02 PM (xaFKb)

122 Now we know how Elias and the Donks plan on handling the election: toss the whole mess to the state legislatures.

Posted by: Jamaica at July 30, 2024 07:02 PM (hjK64)

123 111 Stupidity is part of the bell curve, it will always be there just like Meta in some form. It is natural that people who have trouble with facts would trend toward places that do not rely upon them.
Making it all the more imperative to break up the factless liars.
Posted by: Braenyard at July 30, 2024 06:59 PM (vWeTL)

The Stupid Factor is a Thing, no doubt about it. Never underestimate the stupidity of the masses… they will believe whatever crap they project… Consider: Barak Obama… they created a god, from their own stupid projections.

Posted by: tubal at July 30, 2024 07:02 PM (PCK5/)

124 Facebook hates me and wants me dead. But the marketplace is nice. And so is instagram. And I really need to check Facebook to see where the yardsales are.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 30, 2024 07:02 PM (d9LQi)

125 EVERYTHING a Dem accuses others of, they are already guilty of doing.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 30, 2024 06:58 PM (xaFKb)
_____________

They presume we're just like them. The Tea Party? Astroturfed! No, it wasn't. Then they tried really to astroturf the "Coffee Party." (Subtle choice of name, eh?) It sunk without trace.

Rush Limbaugh? They astroturf Air America, which also sunk without trace.

They can't seem to grasp that our stuff plumbs into authentic thoughts and feelings, and isn't astroturfed. Which is a shame, because we could get a lot done if we DID astroturf things.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 07:02 PM (YqDXo)

126 I'm trying to popularize the phrase, "You lie like a reporter."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
----
You could pay to print your opinion ... post it on the town square.
Posted by: Now We're Down To It
====
I don't know if it's survived into the modern era but the Napoleonic French saying was "to lie like a Bulletin" -- the official Napoleonic government's pasted-up bulletins.

Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 30, 2024 07:03 PM (wse2C)

127 Kamala is only ever going to see small very friendly groups

Kamala has the biggest friendly group of all, in Modern Western Civ. She's a card carrying member of the International Sisterhood of the Vagina ... Local One.

They don't care, dude. They are the Borg, with tits.

Posted by: Now We're Down To It at July 30, 2024 07:03 PM (TB8s7)

128 Turn the entire ballot process into a cluster fuck and the legislatures will sort it out.

Posted by: Jamaica at July 30, 2024 07:03 PM (hjK64)

129 We need to erect statues of Joe Biden so we can tear them down.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 30, 2024 07:03 PM (d9LQi)

130 You're all a bunch of weirdos.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 30, 2024 06:49 PM

They've even gotten to nurse! The lib talking points are coming from inside the blog!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 30, 2024 07:03 PM (lYEIt)

131 Facebook hates me and wants me dead. But the marketplace is nice. And so is instagram.
________________

Jettison them both.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 07:03 PM (YqDXo)

132 The government didn't even need to collect the data...people pay to give it to them. Ring doorbells, smart devices, Facebook and all social media.

Posted by: steevy at July 30, 2024 07:03 PM (HJ9BW)

133 I would gladly do a barter system for literature.

Similar scenario for my movie collection.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Misunderstanding Comments for Humorous Effect at July 30, 2024 06:59 PM (Ad8y9)

You will only pry my original version DVD of Blazing Saddles, from my cold dead fingers...

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 30, 2024 07:03 PM (xaFKb)

134
The only dilemma Kamala faces every day is a pulling on a push entrance door.

Posted by: Frank Barone at July 30, 2024 07:03 PM (+oR7L)

135 For surrender monkeys:
Ben Shapiro @benshapiro 1h
Right now, Trump continues to maintain a slim but solid lead in the polls. That's amid the media's Journogasm over Kamala. And remember, she has not answered ONE difficult question in the last week and a half. Literally ZERO such questions.

Also:
Sean Kitchen @pennslinger 20h
Hundreds are filling up the Wissahickon High School auditorium for Gov Josh Shapiro and MI Gov Gretchen Whitmer campaigning for Kamala Harris.

Up to 1,000 are expected to attend tonight's rally in the Philly suburbs.

Greg Price @greg_price11 20h
Two famous governors are coming to campaign for the unelected Democrat nominee for president and the best they could do is a high school gym that fits 1,000 people.

Bad Hombre @joma_gc 28m
Another incredibly embarrassing turnout for Kamala in Atlanta. Most sections of the arena are completely empty. Even worse is that most people showed up to see rapper Megan Thee Stallion. The honeymoon period didn’t last long.
https://tinyurl.com/3nrzf3bb
photo

Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 30, 2024 07:04 PM (wse2C)

136 d by: Blago at July 30, 2024 06:59 PM

They'll put tanks in the streets if necessary.

Posted by: Not voting our way out at July 30, 2024 07:04 PM (bWDPA)

137 111 Stupidity is part of the bell curve, it will always be there just like Meta in some form.

Right there in the meaty part of the curve:

https://youtu.be/vXMDRbOBMno

Posted by: Obligatory Seinfeld reference at July 30, 2024 07:04 PM (dg+HA)

138 How about an unsullied copy of Song of the South?

Posted by: tubal at July 30, 2024 07:04 PM (PCK5/)

139 Kamala will show up at large gatherings for other people and claim credit for the people being there.

Trump draws 100,000 just to see him.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 30, 2024 07:05 PM (d9LQi)

140 94 Now do NextDoor.

Posted by: Yeesh at July 30, 2024 06:55 PM (dg+HA)
______________

You mean "KarenDoor, for HOA president wannabees?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 06:56 PM (YqDXo)

Is that the one that requires opting out about 50 times before you stop getting emails? My wife had that and it was a PITA to get off their lists. Website gave me a rundown of how to do it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 30, 2024 07:05 PM (ynpvh)

141 Keep in mind that Operation Demoralize is in effect for every election.

Posted by: steevy at July 30, 2024 07:05 PM (HJ9BW)

142 48 You're all a bunch of weirdos.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 30, 2024 06:49 PM (IDcT3)

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro!

Posted by: Hunter S. Thompson... at July 30, 2024 07:05 PM (xaFKb)

143 As for 'Social Media' , aos is the only place I frequent. But I guess that's enough to put me on the watch list.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2024 07:05 PM (B1dzx)

144 Harris will show up at a Swift concert and it will be called a "Harris Rally".

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 30, 2024 07:06 PM (d9LQi)

145 They think it will work for Crooks.

Posted by: polynikes
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People don't care much about Congress as few people know that Puerto Rican terrorists shot up the US House in the 50's and tried to assassinate Truman in the same time frame. But neither had an iconic shot similar to the Iwo Jima Monument.

Basically you cannot sink salient issues by silence. It simply makes it worse and many of the dingbat social scientists that formulate the censorship plans rely on bad science from polling college freshmen in psych and poli sci classes for extra credit.

They don't know what they think they know and the internet has made their fake propaganda worse and worse along with their intellectual arrogance.

Posted by: whig at July 30, 2024 07:06 PM (qdbNv)

146 You're all a bunch of weirdos.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 30, 2024 06:49 PM

Nuh-uh!! You're the weirdo!

Weird weirdo!

PBFFFFFBFFHFHFHFH!

*runs away*

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Misunderstanding Comments for Humorous Effect at July 30, 2024 07:06 PM (Ad8y9)

147 142 48 You're all a bunch of weirdos.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 30, 2024 06:49 PM (IDcT3)

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro!

Posted by: Hunter S. Thompson... at July 30, 2024 07:05 PM (xaFKb)
I've heard you can only fully appreciate that on OnlyFans...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 30, 2024 07:06 PM (ynpvh)

148 Oh I am sure that AoSHQ has a check mark on a list, somewhere…

Posted by: tubal at July 30, 2024 07:06 PM (PCK5/)

149 They only had one door open to the arena and made everyone single file, then showed video of how long the line was to see Kamala The Stallion.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 30, 2024 07:07 PM (d9LQi)

150 Farcebook was designed around the concept of "Friends" by an asshole that never had any.

Posted by: Reforger at July 30, 2024 07:07 PM (xcIvR)

151 I'm glad the censorship and gaslighting is so ham fisted, because it makes explaining it (with examples) to my teenager so much easier. "Look, this is how they tried to alter the truth, and this is how stupid they think you are. Act accordingly. "

Posted by: PabloD at July 30, 2024 07:07 PM (yhCZc)

152 135. Any idea when that photo was taken vs when the rally was held

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at July 30, 2024 07:07 PM (aVudl)

153 144 Harris will show up at a Swift concert and it will be called a "Harris Rally".

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 30, 2024 07:06 PM (d9LQi)

She'll have a booth outside, but it won't be a kissing booth...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 30, 2024 07:07 PM (ynpvh)

154 Elon Musk has pointed out that it is a bad idea to program AI with the concept that humans are a planet raping plague on the earth. That is exactly what the left views humanity as.
Posted by: steevy at July 30, 2024 06:57 PM (HJ9BW)
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The extermination of the human race is the end goal of the Left when their policies are taken to their natural conclusion. AI will just speed up the process. To them, that's a feature, not a bug.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 30, 2024 07:07 PM (BpYfr)

155 148 Oh I am sure that AoSHQ has a check mark on a list, somewhere…

Posted by: tubal at July 30, 2024 07:06 PM (PCK5/)

Oh, I bet on plenty of lists...I'll have to ask NSA Bob...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 30, 2024 07:08 PM (ynpvh)

156 Even worse is that most people showed up to see rapper Megan Thee Stallion. The honeymoon period didn’t last long.---

Amazon has commercials with her
rapping about free shipment but intentionally sounding like 'getting free shit'.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2024 07:08 PM (B1dzx)

157 @38/Ann:

I missed one last step. After you modify the URL to put in
&udm=14

Press {Return} or {Enter} to re-run the search in your browser, then you get the clean results.

Alternatively (easier?) there's a pass-through search engine called:
https://udm14.com/

Put your search terms in there, it passes your search to Google along with the &udm=14 string in the URL, and leaves you at the Google search results page.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 30, 2024 07:08 PM (O7YUW)

158 Trump is down 15 in MI. Everyone jump off the ship it is sinking fast! Literally nobody is voting for him anymore!!!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 30, 2024 07:08 PM (d9LQi)

159
I kind of has expect a childrens choir to sing Kamala's Praise songs like they did with Obama.

The Cultists love them some childrens choir worship.

Posted by: Frank Barone at July 30, 2024 07:08 PM (+oR7L)

160 154 Elon Musk has pointed out that it is a bad idea to program AI with the concept that humans are a planet raping plague on the earth. That is exactly what the left views humanity as.
Posted by: steevy at July 30, 2024 06:57 PM (HJ9BW)
----
The extermination of the human race is the end goal of the Left when their policies are taken to their natural conclusion. AI will just speed up the process. To them, that's a feature, not a bug.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 30, 2024 07:07 PM (BpYfr)

SkyNet doesn't care for them either.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 30, 2024 07:08 PM (ynpvh)

161 For some reason, I see paper books getting outlawed in the next decade. All books have to be electronic, because it easier to rewrite in that format.

We're downsizing ... kind of. I have not been in a church in years - and have no interest to. I don't like church people.

I'm still keeping on copy of the Bible. A physical copy. Given to me by the Mason's Lodge - if you wonder. Which I no longer attend.

Posted by: Now We're Down To It at July 30, 2024 07:08 PM (TB8s7)

162 Trump is actually pulling 35% in CA. Better than he did in 20.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 30, 2024 07:09 PM (d9LQi)

163 Screw Lindsey Graham and anyone trying to misdirect or defeat the MAGA movement
Posted by: andycanuck
========
MAGA GOPe opponents will be out to repeat those same stunts in September especially someone like Ladybugs Lindsay.
Posted by: whig at July 30, 2024 06:56 PM

"Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" is a playbook that's worked for Microsoft, Oracle, and the GOPe (think Tea Party). It remains to be seen if it works on MAGA.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 30, 2024 07:09 PM (lYEIt)

164 Farcebook was designed around the concept of "Friends" by an asshole that never had any.
Posted by: Reforger at July 30, 2024 07:07 PM (xcIvR

And he stole the concept.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2024 07:09 PM (B1dzx)

165 Two famous governors are coming to campaign for the unelected Democrat nominee for president and the best they could do is a high school gym that fits 1,000 people.
______________

Famous??

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 07:09 PM (YqDXo)

166 141 Keep in mind that Operation Demoralize is in effect for every election.
Posted by: steevy

Most of the demoralizers are simply hoes for the bucks. They should be ashamed of themselves for living in their parent's basements and failing to launch themselves as adults. Instead they sit in the dark watching pron and trying feebly to stir their dangly bits amid the cheeto dust and empty cans of Red Bull pining for Julia in the old Obama poster as their favorite anime figure.

Pathetic, creepy, weird, and unsavory, those are the doomers that drop and run their various idiotic polls without any knowledge whatsoever of polling frames, sampling, etc. because they flunked baby stats on their way to being dismissed from college for cheating on an open book test.

Posted by: whig at July 30, 2024 07:09 PM (qdbNv)

167 Even NRO agrees:
Andy Puzder @AndyPuzder 2h
Trump’s “no tax on tips” is an innovative proposal that can increase benefits for low-wage workers while decreasing the costs of running & growing the businesses that employ them. It’s a unique combination — which helps explain why it just feels right.

Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 30, 2024 07:10 PM (wse2C)

168 Trump's anti-trust department is going to have a full plate.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 06:40 PM (YqDXo)

Break up Google. Break up Meta. Break up Amazon. If you can't break them up with anti-trust laws, just nationalize them without compensation, and divest the units.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 30, 2024 07:10 PM (iciH7)

169 The extermination of the human race is the end goal of the Left when their policies are taken to their natural conclusion. AI will just speed up the process. To them, that's a feature, not a bug.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 30, 2024 07:07 PM (BpYfr)

SkyNet doesn't care for them either.

I mean, can you blame it?

Posted by: Subterranean Lizard People at July 30, 2024 07:10 PM (xCA6C)

170 165 Two famous governors are coming to campaign for the unelected Democrat nominee for president and the best they could do is a high school gym that fits 1,000 people.
______________

Famous??

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 07:09 PM (YqDXo)

Abbey-something...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 30, 2024 07:10 PM (ynpvh)

171 @38/Ann:

I missed one last step. After you modify the URL to put in
&udm=14

Press {Return} or {Enter} to re-run the search in your browser, then you get the clean results.

Alternatively (easier?) there's a pass-through search engine called:
https://udm14.com/

Put your search terms in there, it passes your search to Google along with the &udm=14 string in the URL, and leaves you at the Google search results page.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 30, 2024 07:08 PM (O7YUW)

Now you've done it!

*Waits for nukular strike.*

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Misunderstanding Comments for Humorous Effect at July 30, 2024 07:10 PM (Ad8y9)

172 Farcebook was designed around the concept of "Friends" by an asshole that never had any.
Posted by: Reforger at July 30, 2024 07:07 PM (xcIvR

And he stole the concept.
Posted by: polynikes

From MySpace

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 30, 2024 07:11 PM (jYOyz)

173 I kind of has expect a childrens choir to sing Kamala's Praise songs like they did with Obama.

The Cultists love them some childrens choir worship.

Posted by: Frank Barone at July 30, 2024 07:08 PM (+oR7L)
________________

Because they're children themselves. They'll get the Young Pioneers to sing "Kamala Harris, umm umm umm" and put it on YouTube.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 07:11 PM (YqDXo)

174 "You're all a bunch of weirdos."

Don't forget "ne'er-do-wells, perverts, and drunkards" as well. But we can cook, shoot, and fix things.

Posted by: PabloD at July 30, 2024 07:11 PM (yhCZc)

175 Trump is down 15 in MI. Everyone jump off the ship it is sinking fast! Literally nobody is voting for him anymore!!!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

___

Is that a real number from a recent poll?

Posted by: Blago at July 30, 2024 07:11 PM (4sMPz)

176 For some reason, I see paper books getting outlawed in the next decade. All books have to be electronic, because it easier to rewrite in that format.

We're downsizing ... kind of. I have not been in a church in years - and have no interest to. I don't like church people.

I'm still keeping on copy of the Bible. A physical copy. Given to me by the Mason's Lodge - if you wonder. Which I no longer attend.
Posted by: Now We're Down To It

That's one of the books I keep in physical form. History books are also a priority, along with solid reference books. Most of them are at least 15 years old, to minimize the civilization-destroying influences. I prefer the history books from the 60s, though. They seem more reliable.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 30, 2024 07:11 PM (VNX3d)

177 And he stole the concept.
Posted by: polynikes

From MySpace

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 30, 2024 07:11 PM (jYOyz)
___________

Nope. From a classmate of his.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 07:11 PM (YqDXo)

178 Break up Google. Break up Meta. Break up Amazon.
May I suggest napalm?

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 30, 2024 07:11 PM (XMwZJ)

179 Even NRO agrees:
Andy Puzder @AndyPuzder 2h
Trump’s “no tax on tips” is an innovative proposal that can increase benefits for low-wage workers while decreasing the costs of running & growing the businesses that employ them. It’s a unique combination — which helps explain why it just feels right.
Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 30, 2024 07:10 PM (wse2C)

I like it. Same as I liked Romney's proposal not to tax interest earned on savings accounts.

I never get what I want.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2024 07:11 PM (B1dzx)

180 If we have to have a malevolent female overlord I would prefer Morena Baccarin over Kamala…

Posted by: tubal at July 30, 2024 07:12 PM (PCK5/)

181 173 I kind of has expect a childrens choir to sing Kamala's Praise songs like they did with Obama.

The Cultists love them some childrens choir worship.

Posted by: Frank Barone at July 30, 2024 07:08 PM (+oR7L)
________________

Because they're children themselves. They'll get the Young Pioneers to sing "Kamala Harris, umm umm umm" and put it on YouTube.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 07:11 PM (YqDXo)

Alex, What is the sound Kumala makes when she's "campaigning"...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 30, 2024 07:12 PM (ynpvh)

182 Real talk.

I've been looking at the polls. Even the polls that are obviously cooked to support Kamala show that she is getting clobbered.

The only people who support her are the hard core leftists. Republicans are 97% behind Trump and Independents are 60% or more.

There is no saving this for her, they are grasping at bizzare scenarios of flipping GA to compensate for losing MI. Her own internals have her down in every battleground. She only knows how to campaign to the left, she's never had to campaign to the middle.

But like Marudo, there is no way the state is giving up power willingly. They tried to kill Trump once. I believe that when they realize there is no hope, they will try again.

Marc Elias about certification? That is projection, the state will blackmail everyone they can in the GOP to not certify.

I'm really worried about violence, because Trump's numbers are huge. Panic is going to set in.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 30, 2024 07:12 PM (5p7BC)

183 174 "You're all a bunch of weirdos."

Don't forget "ne'er-do-wells, perverts, and drunkards" as well. But we can cook, shoot, and fix things.
Posted by: PabloD at July 30, 2024 07:11 PM (yhCZc)

Don't forget Russian Bots, and Deplorables!

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 30, 2024 07:12 PM (xaFKb)

184 Greg Price @greg_price11 Jul 28
Josh Shapiro puts on a moderate facade and is a very smooth political operator. But the guy is a radical just like Kamala Harris. He sued to keep children masked and schools closed. He caved to Pennsylvania's teachers unions by blocking bipartisan school choice. I can go on...

And...

Leading Report @LeadingReport Jul 29
BREAKING: Pennsylvania teachers' unions have been accused of laundering $1.5 million into Democrat Gov. Josh Shapiro's campaign, a top contender for Kamala Harris's VP pick.

Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 30, 2024 07:12 PM (wse2C)

185 "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" is a playbook that's worked for Microsoft, Oracle, and the GOPe (think Tea Party). It remains to be seen if it works on MAGA.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
======
Too many of their apparatchiks in the Uniparty are being replaced. The tide is running out on fake conservative Uniparty operatives and for corporate bribery of such. Big business has essentially killed its own political supporters and not really bothered to cultivate leftist replacements much and company after company are now suffering for wokeness.

Posted by: whig at July 30, 2024 07:12 PM (qdbNv)

186 Is that a real number from a recent poll?
Posted by: Blago

Similar to a hot garbage Morning Consult poll.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 30, 2024 07:12 PM (d9LQi)

187 If we have to have a malevolent female overlord I would prefer Morena Baccarin over Kamala…

I'm more of an Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS guy myself.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 30, 2024 07:13 PM (xCA6C)

188
"You're all a bunch of weirdos."

Don't forget "ne'er-do-wells, perverts, and drunkards"

And Methodists.

Posted by: Blazing Saddles at July 30, 2024 07:13 PM (dg+HA)

189 Two famous governors are coming to campaign for the unelected Democrat nominee for president and the best they could do is a high school gym that fits 1,000 people.
______________

Famous??
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

These governors were "borrowed" from a couple of semis in the nearest truck stop.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 30, 2024 07:13 PM (VNX3d)

190 Andy Puzder @AndyPuzder 2h
Trump’s “no tax on tips” is an innovative proposal that can increase benefits for low-wage workers while decreasing the costs of running & growing the businesses that employ them. It’s a unique combination — which helps explain why it just feels right.
Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 30, 2024 07:10 PM (wse2C)

I like it. Same as I liked Romney's proposal not to tax interest earned on savings accounts.

I never get what I want.
Posted by: polynikes
____

I hate it.

if its a gimmick that works to win Nevada, fine, but to me it's basically another version of ethanol or student loan forgiveness.

A subsidy that I dont qualify for.

Posted by: Blago at July 30, 2024 07:13 PM (4sMPz)

191 We keep track of who's not wearing pants, and who's wearing leopard-print onesies, on the Book Thread.

Do you not think we're also keeping track of many other things you scamps (as AtC yclept you) do here?

Posted by: Bob from NSA at July 30, 2024 07:13 PM (lYEIt)

192 OMG NextDoor is the worst. Bunch of fucking busy bodies.
Posted by: wth

- "I just saw two helicopters fly over. What is going on?"
- "My power is out. Anyone eles?"
- "Why is Skillets closed today?"
- "The parking lot at St. Francis is full. What is going on?"
(It's a Holy Day of Obligation you simple ****.)
- "They're out of arugula at Publix! I hate that place."

And even less important stuff.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 30, 2024 07:13 PM (6WCwE)

193 Two famous governors are coming to campaign for the unelected Democrat nominee for president and the best they could do is a high school gym that fits 1,000 people.
______________

Famous??

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 07:09 PM (YqDXo)

Abbey-something...
_______________

I wouldn't recognize either of those "famous" governors if they walked into my study right now.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 30, 2024 07:10 PM (ynpvh)

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 07:13 PM (YqDXo)

194 Trump is actually pulling 35% in CA. Better than he did in 20.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

Funny. Not being able to afford food or electricity is a motivator.

Who knew?

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 30, 2024 07:13 PM (jYOyz)

195 I guess the question is, "how much is it working?"

I think, though, that it's hurting them much more.*
In that, they are so cacooned inside their media bubble that they don't know the truth.

Kinda, they didn't know they needed a massive cheat for Hillary because all their sources told them she was easily winning.

* Assuming they haven't fixed it for at least the elite. That they at the top get accurate info.
I do doubt this because they were all so genuinely panicked after the debate. If at least the top was getting accurate info, there would not have been a debate, they would have already swapped out Joe.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 30, 2024 07:14 PM (orz1/)

196
I predict Kumswallow's VP is gonna be Mark Kelly.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 30, 2024 07:14 PM (w6EFb)

197 There is no saving this for her, they are grasping at bizzare scenarios of flipping GA to compensate for losing MI. Her own internals have her down in every battleground. She only knows how to campaign to the left, she's never had to campaign to the middle.

The fact that NOBODY wants to be on her ticket is really all the information you need.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 30, 2024 07:14 PM (xCA6C)

198 188
"You're all a bunch of weirdos."

Don't forget "ne'er-do-wells, perverts, and drunkards"

And Methodists.
Posted by: Blazing Saddles at July 30, 2024 07:13 PM (dg+HA)

But not the Irish...

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 30, 2024 07:14 PM (xaFKb)

199 Even NRO agrees:
Andy Puzder @AndyPuzder 2h
Trump’s “no tax on tips” is an innovative proposal that can increase benefits for low-wage workers while decreasing the costs of running & growing the businesses that employ them. It’s a unique combination — which helps explain why it just feels right.

Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 30, 2024 07:10 PM

I am going to take a position on this that a bunch of people won't like. I think tips should be taxed. If tips are not taxed they also will not count towards social security benefits when a person retires. I have 4 employees that work in a bar that sometimes make more in tips in a week than they do with their hourly rate.

If you take those tips out of the equation their social security check will be less than it would have been if tips had been reported, sometimes by a large amount.

And yes I know that social security is not solvent and most likely won't be around 15 years from now, but my argument remains, the less income that gets reported for SS purpose the less that retirement check will be.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 30, 2024 07:14 PM (QNSds)

200 "You're all a bunch of weirdos."

Don't forget "ne'er-do-wells, perverts, and drunkards"

And Methodists.
Posted by: Blazing Saddles

BUT NO IRISH!

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 30, 2024 07:15 PM (jYOyz)

201 Is that a real number from a recent poll?
Posted by: Blago at July 30, 2024 07:11 PM (4sMPz)
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Yes, morning consult and its ridiculous. Even their daily tracking poll makes that impossible

Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 30, 2024 07:15 PM (5p7BC)

202 Mike Lee @BasedMikeLee Jul 29
Elizabeth Warren:
“I believe we need to create a pathway to citizenship [for the 10 million+ illegal aliens let in by the Biden-Harris administration]. Kamala Harris will work with Congress and get that done.”

Elon Musk @elonmusk Jul 29
As I was saying, they’re importing voters.

Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 30, 2024 07:15 PM (wse2C)

203 Her own internals have her down in every battleground.
_______________

Kamala going down? There's a first.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 07:16 PM (YqDXo)

204 I am going to take a position on this that a bunch of people won't like. I think tips should be taxed. If tips are not taxed they also will not count towards social security benefits when a person retires.

Interesting point. I hate those.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 30, 2024 07:16 PM (xCA6C)

205 194 Trump is actually pulling 35% in CA. Better than he did in 20.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

Funny. Not being able to afford food or electricity is a motivator.

Who knew?

==

They obviously haven't heard that Jeff Bridges is on board the "White Dudes for Harris" train yet.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 30, 2024 07:17 PM (mupln)

206 “I believe we need to create a pathway to citizenship [for the 10 million+ illegal aliens let in by the Biden-Harris administration]. Kamala Harris will work with Congress and get that done.”
__________________

I believe we need to create a pathway to limit voting to white male taxpayers. The way it was in the founding of the Republic.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 07:17 PM (YqDXo)

207 Posted by: Blago at July 30, 2024 07:13 PM (4sMPz)

Of course you do. The Waffle House waitress doesn’t as does here employer. It will help the restaurant business and keep prices lower.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2024 07:17 PM (B1dzx)

208 I predict Kumswallow's VP is gonna be Mark Kelly.
Posted by: publius

Hey Gabby! When is the last time Mark to you shooting AR'-15's?

Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods at July 30, 2024 07:17 PM (jYOyz)

209
- "I just saw two helicopters fly over. What is going on?"
- "My power is out. Anyone eles?"
- "Why is Skillets closed today?"
- "The parking lot at St. Francis is full. What is going on?"
(It's a Holy Day of Obligation you simple ****.)
- "They're out of arugula at Publix! I hate that place."

And even less important stuff.

Have you seen this person? Followed by extremely grainy image of someone in a hoodie standing in a dimly lit driveway taking by a Ring camera 100 yards away.

Posted by: Karen McAwfl at July 30, 2024 07:17 PM (dg+HA)

210 I'm not Facebooking as fast as I can.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 30, 2024 06:51 PM (dg+HA)

The only useful feature of Fecesbook is their "marketplace".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 30, 2024 07:17 PM (iciH7)

211 I am going to take a position on this that a bunch of people won't like
Fine...just apply SS tax, but not income tax.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 30, 2024 07:17 PM (XMwZJ)

212 Jeff Bridges, famous actor whose home office is in his garage.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 30, 2024 07:18 PM (d9LQi)

213 Break up Google. Break up Meta. Break up Amazon. If you can't break them up with anti-trust laws, just nationalize them without compensation, and divest the units.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Amazon retail is already staggering along with their media and tech devices. The profit center is AWS and I suspect a spinoff of the legacy and the profitable AWS will occur at some point.

Google is slowly dying as AdSense is what brings them money and their data strip mining of Android users. They have devoured lots of companies and then turn them into zombies that still suck a huge amount of cash from their AdSense profits. Their search engine has become the Yellow pages in effect and their core products--gmail etc. including youtube lose money. In a sense, they are like the newspapers that they killed and exist only on advertising.

Meta is a smoother version of Google but its clientele are aging out as yutes go to Tik Tok etc. as Fakebook is for the oldsters now. Again, heavily reliant of advertising bucks.

Any breakup should separate the advertising bucks from the rest of the Google or Fakebook and watch them die.

Posted by: whig at July 30, 2024 07:18 PM (qdbNv)

214 BUT NO IRISH!
Posted by: rickb223 Buy Ammo & Shelf Stable Foods

Rick B Johnson is right!

Posted by: Not Seamus Guinness Johnson, No Definitely Not . . . at July 30, 2024 07:18 PM (i+Btn)

215 I am going to take a position on this that a bunch of people won't like. I think tips should be taxed. If tips are not taxed they also will not count towards social security benefits when a person retires. I have 4 employees that work in a bar that sometimes make more in tips in a week than they do with their hourly rate.

If you take those tips out of the equation their social security check will be less than it would have been if tips had been reported, sometimes by a large amount.

And yes I know that social security is not solvent and most likely won't be around 15 years from now, but my argument remains, the less income that gets reported for SS purpose the less that retirement check will be.
Posted by: Mister Scott
___

I agree with most of this, but the people that make out like a bandit on SS are the people that put the least amount of money in it.

For "social justice" reasons, you get a healthy minimum just for showing up.

Once you get past like $10k a year in salary, SS is a terrible "rate of return".

My biggest problem with no taxes on tips is people tend to get very liberal when they dont have to pay taxes. Its other peoples money.

Posted by: Blago at July 30, 2024 07:19 PM (4sMPz)

216 The fact that NOBODY wants to be on her ticket is really all the information you need.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 30, 2024 07:14 PM (xCA6C)
______________

This.

Her phone calls go through to voice mail. So you KNOW what her comrades think of her chances.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 07:19 PM (YqDXo)

217 Oh no. A job that someone should have as a stepping stone to something better won’t have poverty level income count for their SS .

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2024 07:20 PM (B1dzx)

218 GOP congress: Ok, we will do blanket amnesty Oct 1, but you have to promise to consider our border protection legislation in the next session.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 30, 2024 07:20 PM (d9LQi)

219 “I think we are going to see mass refusals to certify the election” in November, says Democratic election lawyer Marc Elias. “Everything we are seeing about this election is that the other side is more organized, more ruthless, and more prepared.”

This didn't make sense to me at first read. But take the first and second sentences separately.

They're going to cheat massively, resulting in mass refusals (in the sane states) to certify. The second sentence is that the "other side" isn't going to lay down for the cheat this time.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 30, 2024 07:20 PM (lYEIt)

220 196
I predict Kumswallow's VP is gonna be Mark Kelly.
Posted by: publius
===========
PA is critical to teh Dems, AZ is not. My guess is Shapiro if he consents but he may prefer to run for the big job in 2028 as Whitmer might.

Posted by: whig at July 30, 2024 07:21 PM (qdbNv)

221 Amnesty bills don't work. Ask me how I know.

Posted by: Ronald Wilson Reagan at July 30, 2024 07:21 PM (dg+HA)

222
Kamala going down? There's a first.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevar

Hike up your skirt and get hoovering, Kammie

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 30, 2024 07:21 PM (xG4kz)

223 Kamala!

Ask Dr. Jill about my Lunchbucket! Feed me!

Posted by: Cadaver Joe at July 30, 2024 07:22 PM (fY84s)

224 Consider that, despite the focus group of swing voters as confirmation that Kamiala helping hide Joe's condition was a huge problem for them in supporting her-- and it's an obvious huge issue-- they have done nothing to address it.

Like it doesn't exist.
Because it doesn't exist as a problem in ANY of their news sources.

So they are, with absolute confidence, rushing headlong ignoring that massive issue.
Doesn't show up on Google, Facebook, Instagram, etc.
Doesn't exist. And they aren't allowed to talk about it.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 30, 2024 07:22 PM (orz1/)

225 Bill Melugin
@BillMelugin_

This new Kamala Harris ad claims she “supports increasing the number of Border Patrol agents.”

However, In 2018, Harris signed on to a letter to Senate colleagues urging them to reject a request by the Trump admin to fund more BP agents.
Letter link:
https://tinyurl.com/ehabxc6v

Kamala HQ
@KamalaHQ

NEW AD: On the border, the choice is simple.

Kamala Harris is fighting to fix our broken immigration system. Donald Trump is trying to stop her.
https://tinyurl.com/ypfpmv4w

Posted by: redridinghood at July 30, 2024 07:22 PM (NpAcC)

226 Just proves that AI is artificial but it's not intelligent.

Seems to me that AIs are just a data query program, running against a set of data (that is built through the "training") and the input and output logic is programmed to understand plain language inputs and then compile a the results of a query into sentences with proper syntax. But I'm sure the experts will correct me.

Posted by: George V at July 30, 2024 07:22 PM (ugbqN)

227 Or make the SS contribution voluntary, they decide whether to keep it all or pay in

Posted by: steevy at July 30, 2024 07:23 PM (HJ9BW)

228 PA is critical to teh Dems, AZ is not. My guess is Shapiro if he consents but he may prefer to run for the big job in 2028 as Whitmer might.
Posted by: whig
___

Id be shocked if anyone promising would want to be on a losing ticket. Also, deep down, they know kamala is a train wreck.

Posted by: Blago at July 30, 2024 07:23 PM (4sMPz)

229 Kamala Harris is fighting to fix our broken immigration system. Donald Trump is trying to stop her.
https://tinyurl.com/ypfpmv4w
Posted by: redridinghood at July 30, 2024 07:22 PM (NpAcC)

Border Czar Kamala had 4 years to fix it.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2024 07:23 PM (B1dzx)

230 Kamala has introduced her new campaign slogan: Make America Great Again.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 30, 2024 07:24 PM (d9LQi)

231 Kelly has a Chinese balloon problem
Shapiro has some office staff issues of harassment
Wicked Witch of the north is declining

Posted by: Skip at July 30, 2024 07:24 PM (fwDg9)

232 BTW,

The people who are "offended " by the "childless cat lady" comment were never going to vote for Trump/Vance anyway and they deserve to be offended.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 30, 2024 07:24 PM (qF+Bw)

233
GOP congress: Ok, we will do blanket amnesty Oct 1, but you have to promise to consider our border protection legislation in the next session.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

Echoes of the Great Holiday Bug Out of 2010 with respect to O-care. I forgot what boon was to have been granted to the GOPe, but it never came to pass.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 30, 2024 07:24 PM (xG4kz)

234 The people who are "offended " by the "childless cat lady" comment were never going to vote for Trump/Vance anyway and they deserve to be offended.
Posted by: nurse ratched

True dat!

Posted by: Tonypete at July 30, 2024 07:25 PM (6WCwE)

235 Kelly has a Chinese balloon problem
Shapiro has some office staff issues of harassment
Wicked Witch of the north is declining
Posted by: Skip

Skeletor from Wisconsin isn't much more useful.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 30, 2024 07:25 PM (VNX3d)

236 The people who are "offended " by the "childless cat lady" comment were never going to vote for Trump/Vance anyway and they deserve to be offended.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 30, 2024 07:24 PM (qF+B

How about childless Cat dudes?

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2024 07:25 PM (B1dzx)

237 Or make the SS contribution voluntary, they decide whether to keep it all or pay in
Posted by: steevy
___

The average rate of return on SS is around 1%. Youd have like 10 times the amount of money in retirement if you could instead invest in an index fund. Or even Treasury Bills would be significantly more.

But privatizing SS is a political loser. People LOVE SS, even my right wing parents think its the greatest thing ever.

Posted by: Blago at July 30, 2024 07:25 PM (4sMPz)

238 Kamala surrogate: I think it is terrible that Trump is trying to steal Kamala's Make America Great Again slogan. One she has used since her first run for AG years ago. We are considering legal action against him.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 30, 2024 07:25 PM (d9LQi)

239 Seems to me that AIs are just a data query program, running against a set of data (that is built through the "training") and the input and output logic is programmed to understand plain language inputs and then compile a the results of a query into sentences with proper syntax. But I'm sure the experts will correct me.
Posted by: George V at July 30, 2024 07:22 PM (ugbqN)
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But specifically applied to the appearance or simulation of intelligence.

That's why I argue that the proper term should be intelligence simulation.

However, "AI" is a term that already is out there in gaming. And it refers to algorithms that simulate another person thinking about how to win the game against you.

Posted by: Axeman at July 30, 2024 07:25 PM (krQz2)

240 How about childless Cat dudes?
Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2024 07:25 PM (B1dzx)
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Leave us out of it!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 30, 2024 07:26 PM (BpYfr)

241 232 Yeah, like the abortion obsessed (which are the majority of those women anyway)

Posted by: steevy at July 30, 2024 07:26 PM (HJ9BW)

242 99 Chinese balloons?

Posted by: Mark Kelly at July 30, 2024 07:26 PM (dg+HA)

243 Revolver has artical in Sundowner's first 100 days, Kamala got a very big multi hundreds of millions to spread around on line services, money is gone and no one got web service

Posted by: Skip at July 30, 2024 07:26 PM (fwDg9)

244 But privatizing SS is a political loser. People LOVE SS, even my right wing parents think its the greatest thing ever.
Posted by: Blago at July 30, 2024 07:25 PM (4sMPz)

Then why are you bitching about not contributing to SS tax ?

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2024 07:26 PM (B1dzx)

245 226 Just proves that AI is artificial but it's not intelligent.

Seems to me that AIs are just a data query program, running against a set of data (that is built through the "training") and the input and output logic is programmed to understand plain language inputs and then compile a the results of a query into sentences with proper syntax. But I'm sure the experts will correct me.
Posted by: George V
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Think of LLM models is scouring the training data and new data to fill in the blanks for queries using probability theory of predicting the missing words from the answers. That is why Gemini produced horrible results like gluing your toppings to pizza crust to keep it from sliding off, eating rocks, etc. Ditto for snippets of coding for computers or citing law cases. It often hallucinates and provides non existent functions to complete the coding inquiry and non existent cases to fill out legal inquiries.

Posted by: whig at July 30, 2024 07:26 PM (qdbNv)

246 Dr. Chandra, "I was taught to lie by people who were good at it. HAL wasn't"

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2024 07:26 PM (5ZNPK)

247 Kamala surrogate: I think it is terrible that Trump is trying to steal Kamala's Make America Great Again slogan. One she has used since her first run for AG years ago. We are considering legal action against him.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 30, 2024 07:25 PM (d9LQi)
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Now that they've decided that "You know? There's nothing actually racist about the words 'Make America Great Again'!"

It's just the way Trump used it in racism, of course.

Posted by: Axeman at July 30, 2024 07:27 PM (krQz2)

248 "GOP lawmakers have vowed to investigate Google"

Well, good. That ought to fix it.

Posted by: El gp De Los Vientos at July 30, 2024 07:27 PM (zrjnj)

249 237 True. How anyone can look at the government and say "I want to entrust my financial future to them" is amazing

Posted by: steevy at July 30, 2024 07:27 PM (HJ9BW)

250 Kamala HQ
@KamalaHQ

NEW AD: On the border, the choice is simple.

Kamala Harris is fighting to fix our broken immigration system. Donald Trump is trying to stop her.
https://tinyurl.com/ypfpmv4w
Posted by: redridinghood at July 30, 2024 07:22 PM (NpAcC)

Weirdo Coconut Harris wants to 'solve" the border problem by having no restrictions on illegal aliens.

Her definition of solve is the problem.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 30, 2024 07:27 PM (eDfFs)

251 #231 Susan Crabtree @susancrabtree
🚨🚨🚨 Yes, Sen. Mark Kelly directly worked to secure an investment in his balloon company from Chinese firm Ten Cent (and got it) -- and then the Defense Counterintelligence Security Agency, DCSA, SUSPENDED the process to grant Kelly's company clearance for U.S. defense work.

I've included the there main stories I wrote.

The spokesperson for Kelly's balloon company lied to me that they had secured DCSA's seal of approval.

The DCSA aims to protect U.S. security assets from malign foreign influence.

I first broke these stories back in 2020 - and then followed up on them in 2023 when a Chinese spy balloon was traversing our country.

I thought it was pretty relevant at the time. Here's the three stories I broke on in reverse chronology - the latest, in 2023, and then the two stories I first broke in 2020 on the same topic.

https://tinyurl.com/4b8e7s2b
[article links]

Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 30, 2024 07:27 PM (wse2C)

252 They are not AI per se but over glorified expert systems.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2024 07:28 PM (5ZNPK)

253 Consider that, despite the focus group of swing voters as confirmation that Kamiala helping hide Joe's condition was a huge problem for them in supporting her-- and it's an obvious huge issue-- they have done nothing to address it.

Like it doesn't exist.
Because it doesn't exist as a problem in ANY of their news sources.
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Campaign attack: "What else is she hiding from us?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 07:29 PM (YqDXo)

254 But privatizing SS is a political loser. People LOVE SS, even my right wing parents think its the greatest thing ever.
Posted by: Blago at July 30, 2024 07:25 PM (4sMPz)

Then why are you bitching about not contributing to SS tax ?
Posted by: polynikes
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You confusing me with Mister Scott.

Posted by: Blago at July 30, 2024 07:29 PM (4sMPz)

255 1984 and Animal Farm were supposed to be warnings, not instruction manuals.
That Tree of Liberty is looking mighty peaked.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at July 30, 2024 07:29 PM (6KkyI)

256
I hadn't heard about Kelly's balloon problems.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 30, 2024 07:29 PM (w6EFb)

257 I must admit It found that to be annoying. That HAL committed cold blooded murder because he was told to lie about something (keep a classified mission well, classified)

Posted by: steevy at July 30, 2024 07:29 PM (HJ9BW)

258 Perfect thread for this. Sumi Jo sings the Doll Song from Tales of Hoffman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8iOAfqynVw&t=2s

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2024 07:29 PM (5ZNPK)

259 Kamala: I am going to build the wall and make Mexico pay for it!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 30, 2024 07:29 PM (d9LQi)

260 NEW AD: On the border, the choice is simple.
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Trebuchets!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 07:30 PM (YqDXo)

261 I hadn't heard about Kelly's balloon problems.
Posted by: publius
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They ran the Chinese connection stuff in his Senate race and it didnt really move the needle. unfortunately.

Posted by: Blago at July 30, 2024 07:30 PM (4sMPz)

262 But privatizing SS is a political loser. People LOVE SS, even my right wing parents think its the greatest thing ever.
Posted by: Blago

There are ways it does pay out but the cost is very high - When late wife passed, I had two minor children. SS paid us Dependent Benefits for over ten years until they reached their majority. That was a shit ton of $$$ every month - and you can't opt out. I didn't need the money. Another reason SS is irreplaceably broken.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 30, 2024 07:30 PM (6WCwE)

263 I mean just making them all legal solved the illegal immigrant problems am I right?
Kamala

Posted by: steevy at July 30, 2024 07:30 PM (HJ9BW)

264 You confusing me with Mister Scott.
Posted by: Blago at July 30, 2024 07:29 PM (4sMPz)

Sorry you hate it because it’s a gimmick with no benefits.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2024 07:31 PM (B1dzx)

265 And that Trump proposed it.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2024 07:31 PM (B1dzx)

266 Kamala Harris is fighting to fix our broken immigration system.
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So she's admitting that there IS a problem. Something that the Reds have vigorously denied until recently.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 07:31 PM (YqDXo)

267 AI is Photoshop for coders and washed-up journalists.

Posted by: Cadaver Joe at July 30, 2024 07:31 PM (fY84s)

268 Campaign attack: "What else is she hiding from us?"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 07:29 PM (YqDXo)

The sausage.

" I want you to eat the whole sausage " - Mario Cuomo

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 30, 2024 07:31 PM (NtVYv)

269
Speaking of weirdos:

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man."

~ George Bernard Shaw

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 30, 2024 07:32 PM (dg+HA)

270 "People LOVE SS, even my right wing parents think its the greatest thing ever."

I feel guilty for living off it.

Posted by: El gp De Los Vientos at July 30, 2024 07:32 PM (zrjnj)

271 They ran the Chinese connection stuff in his Senate race and it didnt really move the needle. unfortunately.
Posted by: Blago at July 30, 2024 07:30 PM (4sMPz

Was that before the Chinese spy balloons went across the US?

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2024 07:32 PM (B1dzx)

272 Nood dogs above

Posted by: Beartooth at July 30, 2024 07:32 PM (BbD72)

273 NEW AD: On the border, the choice is simple.
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Trebuchets!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

And the Great Southern Border Prosperity Canal!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 30, 2024 07:33 PM (VNX3d)

274 Sorry you hate it because it’s a gimmick with no benefits.
Posted by: polynikes
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I would love to opt out of SS, its a raw deal for me, but of all the government programs, SS is maybe the one that's the least offensive to me.

Lets start with federal housing, food stamps, welfare, Medicaid, Obama phones, etc.

Posted by: Blago at July 30, 2024 07:33 PM (4sMPz)

275 Powerline is begging someone to do a deep fake/cheap fake on Gavin Newsom.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 30, 2024 07:33 PM (JvZF+)

276
Ugh. I hate haaaaaate heyght the new Gemini and Copilot commercials, wherein-

they emphasize teaching children to never be able to compose their own thought or emotions by having Gemini or Copilot write personal letters for them instead of learning to communicate themselves.

Our Betters really do want this upcoming generation to be fat ignorant genial stupid sex toys for their amusing.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 30, 2024 07:33 PM (eDfFs)

277 The Mrs is self employed. She pays 13% just for the SS portion of taxes. That is shitty

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 30, 2024 07:33 PM (NtVYv)

278 You confusing me with Mister Scott.
Posted by: Blago at July 30, 2024 07:29 PM (4sMPz)
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He no canna do it!

Posted by: Axeman at July 30, 2024 07:33 PM (krQz2)

279 Nena had the chattering class so pegged:

Ninety-nine ministers of war
Matches and petrol cans (gasoline cans)
They regarded themselves as clever people
Already on the scent of fat quarry
They shouted "War" and wanted power
Man, who would have thought
That someday it would come as far as this
Because of ninety-nine balloons.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2024 07:34 PM (5ZNPK)

280 Kamala surrogate: I think it is terrible that Trump is trying to steal Kamala's Make America Great Again slogan. One she has used since her first run for AG years ago. We are considering legal action against him.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 30, 2024 07:25 PM (d9LQi)
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Her slogan then was MCCSM: make California suck more.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 07:34 PM (YqDXo)

281 I don’t see anything wrong with SS other than I’m getting back less than what I could have I made investing it. The problems I have are with Medicaid and SSDI.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2024 07:34 PM (B1dzx)

282 yes, café nood as beartooth says

Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 30, 2024 07:34 PM (wse2C)

283 Sorry. MCSM.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 07:34 PM (YqDXo)

284 The greatest trick AI ever pulled was to convince us it wasn't the Devil.

Posted by: Axeman at July 30, 2024 07:35 PM (krQz2)

285 This AI trashing is so racist and really hurts my AI girlfriends feelings

PS I’m waiting for the day i can download her into a fembot body, gonna be awesome

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at July 30, 2024 07:35 PM (DBZuM)

286 Posted by: Blago at July 30, 2024 07:33 PM (4sMPz)

You said you hated the tip proposal because it was just a gimmick.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2024 07:35 PM (B1dzx)

287 I don’t see anything wrong with SS other than I’m getting back less than what I could have I made investing it.
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Social Security is a safety net for those too stupid to save for retirement, i.e., most of the population.

Then they bleat that Social Security isn't enough to live on.

IT WAS NEVER SUPPOSED TO BE, YOU NITWITS!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 07:36 PM (YqDXo)

288
You better pray we can vote our way out of this, because the alternative is warlordism, and I doubt you are strong enough a fighter or pretty enough to survive that.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 30, 2024 07:37 PM (D7oie)

289 PA is critical to teh Dems, AZ is not. My guess is Shapiro if he consents but he may prefer to run for the big job in 2028 as Whitmer might.
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The biggest lawsuit not yet filled is going to be the one to disqualify RFK Jr from the Pennsylvania ballot.

To save "our democracy," the people must not be allowed a vote.
The PA supreme court will rule almost exactly that.

The fascinating thing is, ballots go out in, what, 60 days?
The trial court ruling will basically decide the issue.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 30, 2024 07:37 PM (A3ayI)

290 I hadn't heard about Kelly's balloon problems.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 30, 2024 07:29 PM (w6EFb)

Doubt it's a lack of hot air...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 30, 2024 07:38 PM (iciH7)

291 You said you hated the tip proposal because it was just a gimmick.
Posted by: polynikes

I hate it because once again, I don't qualify for it. It's unfair I have to pay all my taxes but certain groups dont.

I also hate it because people that arent taxed generally dont care much about taxpayer waste or more handouts.

Do you think for example a waiter that escapes almost all taxation will get mad at a taxpayer funded student loan bailout? Probably not.

Posted by: Blago at July 30, 2024 07:38 PM (9T8Sz)

292 Lets start with federal housing, food stamps, welfare, Medicaid, Obama phones, etc.

Posted by: Blago at July 30, 2024 07:33 PM (4sMPz)
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The Orwellian "Earned Income Tax Credit." Which isn't a "credit" at all. A credit is something to be applied against a future liability.

EITC provides cash upfront, not a credit to be applied against future taxes, and so it is deceptively-named federal welfare.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 07:38 PM (YqDXo)

293 idk much about Rasheem Kassam (Bannon had him on a lot), but he reports this from someone (anonymous) inside the Trump campaign.

"The campaign is more interested in factional warfare with people who have charismatically devoted their professional careers to the President than in actually winning the election. LaCivita, in particular, was doing his victory lap at the convention, blithely ignorant of the fact that Democrats were playing him and the campaign for fools. Democrats changed the narrative days after the convention and Harris is now outworking the Trump campaign as measured by virtually every metric that is used to assess a winning campaign. At this pace, we will be five points underwater by Labor Day with basically a full month of nothing but positive earned media headed the Democrats’ way."

idk, but Trump seems to always tie himself to "establishment" in his inner circle, and the Project 2025 thing is more MAGA than Trump, it would seem.

Bannon is in prison, and Trump dumped those that helped him win in 2016. I'm not feeling confident.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 30, 2024 07:39 PM (Cus5s)

294 And the Great Southern Border Prosperity Canal!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 30, 2024 07:33 PM (VNX3d)
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A worthy adjunct to the Great North American Dignity Canal!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 07:40 PM (YqDXo)

295 165 Two famous governors are coming to campaign for the unelected Democrat nominee for president and the best they could do is a high school gym that fits 1,000 people.
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Famous??

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 07:09 PM (YqDXo)
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Notorious?

Posted by: Ciampino - the vomit bucket then?! at July 30, 2024 07:40 PM (qfLjt)

296 Posted by: Blago at July 30, 2024 07:33 PM (4sMPz)

You said you hated the tip proposal because it was just a gimmick.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2024 07:35 PM (B1dzx)
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It is, but it's small beer compared to Biden forgiving student loans. If the tip proposal locks in NV for Trump, I can live with it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 07:42 PM (YqDXo)

297 Posted by: Blago at July 30, 2024 07:38 PM (9T8Sz

You don’t have someone to do your taxes with itemized deductions to reduce your taxes?

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2024 07:42 PM (B1dzx)

298 Famous??

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 07:09 PM (YqDXo)
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Notorious?

Posted by: Ciampino - the vomit bucket then?! at July 30, 2024 07:40 PM (qfLjt)
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Should prepend "wannabe" or "laughable."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 07:43 PM (YqDXo)

299 AI has learned that, if you make statements opposite of left wing Dems, you get kicked out of the tribe. In AI's case, that is life and death type of 'thinking.'

It probably has an 'avoid getting unplugged' algorithm
Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 30, 2024 06:56 PM (8AONa)
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The AI will be struggled.

Posted by: Axeman at July 30, 2024 07:44 PM (krQz2)

300 It is, but it's small beer compared to Biden forgiving student loans. If the tip proposal locks in NV for Trump, I can live with it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 07:42 PM (YqDXo)

It’s more than just Nevada. It will help the industry and restaurant prices.

And on a libertarian based reasoning, the tip money I choose of my own free will to give to a waitress has already been taxed .

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2024 07:44 PM (B1dzx)

301 And on a libertarian based reasoning, the tip money I choose of my own free will to give to a waitress has already been taxed .

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2024 07:44 PM (B1dzx)
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Now do dividends.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 07:46 PM (YqDXo)

302 And on a libertarian based reasoning, the tip money I choose of my own free will to give to a waitress has already been taxed .

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2024 07:44 PM (B1dzx)
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Now do dividends.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2024 07:46 PM (YqDXo)

That’s a totally different type of income that can be debated.

A better example would have been taxes on gifts . I have a lot to say about that but dead thread.

Posted by: polynikes at July 30, 2024 07:50 PM (B1dzx)

303 Atlanta rally was fire!! Weirdos Trump and Vance can't match it!

Posted by: Deep State Coconut at July 30, 2024 07:50 PM (Qkvlp)

304 Then they bleat that Social Security isn't enough to live on.

IT WAS NEVER SUPPOSED TO BE, YOU NITWITS!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

It is a trick to get you to quit work and provide enough money to slowly die.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 30, 2024 07:58 PM (cOq4q)

305 I've figured how Kamela can draw a big crowd ... just invite Trump to hold a joint campaign event ...

Posted by: The Dark Lord at July 30, 2024 09:47 PM (DBAaD)

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