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Secret Service Stonewalls Congress, But Complains to the Media About the Real Failure: The Failure of Conservatives to Propertly Appreciate the Different Lived Experiences of Its Incompetent DEI Hires
This is a real article from NBC "News:"Trump isn't the victim here. The Real Victim is DEI hiring. The U.S. Secret Service said Wednesday that it stood by its female agents and was appalled by some of the criticism they've received on conservative social media since Saturday's attempted assassination of former President Donald Trump. The Secret Service, in a statement to NBC News, said that the criticism from pundits and influencers was baseless. The agency also stood by its commitment to diversity in recruiting as helping, not hurting, the effectiveness of its protective teams. The statement follows a multiday campaign of derision by some conservatives who accused Kimberly Cheatle, the Secret Service director, of being unqualified and who said that female agents assigned to Trump hadn't been physically capable of protecting him. Some critics said the Secret Service should return to being all-male, which it hasn't been since 1970. Anthony Guglielmi, the Secret Service's chief of communication, said in the statement: "We stand united against any attempt to discredit our personnel and their invaluable contributions to our mission and are appalled by the disparaging and disgusting comments against any of our personnel." "As an elite law enforcement agency, all of our agents and officers are highly trained and fully capable of performing our missions," he said. "It is an insult to the women of our agency to imply that they are unqualified based on gender. Such baseless assertions undermine the professionalism, dedication and expertise of our workforce," he added. The failure of the Secret Service to stop the gunman before he was in a position to shoot has come under intense scrutiny, with lawmakers demanding answers and an independent review panel investigating the circumstances. Attendees have said they pointed out the would-be assassin to law enforcement and took video of him for at least two minutes before Trump was struck, according to an NBC News review of video clips. But the criticism of the female agents has been different. At least three female agents were among those protecting Trump in the moments after the shooting, according to videos, and in the days since, their actions have become popular targets of criticism and jokes among conservatives, with several posts on X receiving more than 10 million views. The criticisms follow a pattern from other recent news events where conservative pundits and lawmakers, without evidence, cite "diversity, equity and inclusion" (DEI) programs as a contributing cause in disasters as disparate as the Boeing-made airplane problems or the Baltimore bridge collapse. ... Another conservative commentator used a photo of what appears to be the same female agent during or immediately after the shooting as evidence for "why women should not be allowed to do Presidential protection details." The photo shows the agent crouching near -- but not part of -- a huddle of other agents covering Trump's body. That post had more than 11 million views. Kenneth Valentine, a retired Secret Service agent and supervisor, said the photo was not evidence by itself that the female agent was in the wrong position. "There are a lot of reasons why she might not be on top of that pile," he said in an interview. He said that she might have been approaching from farther away or might have been in the process of switching positions.Maybe she was in a squabble with her fellow agent Buffy. Buffy think she cute. She know what she did. Christopher Rufo is one of those racists who doesn't think that short fat women with experience as police or infantry soldiers should be projecting the most-threatened VIP in the world.A surprising number of the Secret Service agents protecting the former president were women. And, according to video recordings of the scene, many did not acquit themselves favorably. Scene one: after President Trump ducks, a group of agents leaps to him and protects him with their bodies. A female agent who rushes to the stage acts bravely, without a doubt, but the point of the "huddle" is to protect the president. The agent was much shorter than President Trump, leaving his head and neck exposed after he stood up. Scene two: as Trump enters the escape vehicle, a female Secret Service agent fumbles her gun and cannot find her holster; another female agent appears confused and, in the moment of crisis, decides to use both of her hands to put on her sunglasses; a third looks frightened and uncertain. These agents wear the typical Secret Service outfits--Kevlar vests pressing against white shirts; black blazers with gold pins; dark sunglasses--but to an impartial observer, they do not appear to have the same poise, confidence, and strength as the male agents around them. The obvious question: Why so many female agents? The answer, unfortunately, is the same as in many other institutions: DEI. The Secret Service has highlighted "diversity" as a key priority and its director, Kimberly Cheatle, named to the position in 2022, has pledged to increase dramatically the number of women in the ranks. This is official policy. The Secret Service openly boasts that it "prioritizes recruiting women candidates" and has formulated an "affirmative action" plan to increase the number of women, LGBT, Native Americans, and other identity groups. Cheatle herself told CBS News that her goal was to reach 30 percent female recruits by 2030: "I'm very conscious, as I sit in this chair now, of making sure that we need to attract diverse candidates and ensure that we are developing and giving opportunities to everybody in our workforce, and particularly women." The agency is well on its way. In 2021, for the first time, the special agent training class graduated more women than men. To say it plainly: there is no need for women in a president's security detail. The Secret Service is an elite institution that can funnel down a large number of candidates to select the few who will protect the president. The best candidates--the strongest and fastest, the best marksmen--will be men. That's just reality. It's a reality that the Secret Service is determined to circumvent. The agency itself has published its fitness standards in two parts: one for men, and a separate, less rigorous one for women. These biological facts should be obvious. Every nightclub owner knows that physicality matters. A bouncer who is six-foot-five, 200 pounds, will provide better security than a smaller woman. Part of it is signal--size and strength act as a deterrent--and part of it is substance. When a fight breaks out, the nightclub owner learns quickly who is capable of maintaining order and who is not. If he makes the wrong hiring decision, he loses money. It is, in its own way, an honest business. Why has the Secret Service lost sight of such a basic principle? Because large bureaucracies are insulated from consequences. Directors of large corporations and especially government agencies can afford to engage in vanity projects and pay the DEI tax. Someone like Kimberly Cheatle, who did a stint at PepsiCo before accepting the directorship of the Secret Service, understands how to pursue success in the current environment: tell the story of "diversity" to advance in a career, degrade the quality of personnel by hiring ideologically, and hope that the remaining capable men who still represent the core of the service can make up the difference.This is a major point: DEI rejects all criticisms of it based on incompetence of failure. DEI is a poisonous religious cult which claims that every failure of a DEI hire is actually the fault of the only people permitted under this system to be villains: White men.
The problem with DEI is that it dictates decisions based not on performance or on the old virtues, such as honor, but on demographics and ideology. Failure is easily dismissed and blame easily shifted.Far too easily! The Secret Service claims it's a "zero failure" organization, but now, when it has clearly failed, what is it doing? Is it grappling honestly and painfully with its own failures? No -- it's pointing to people who have noticed their failure and attempting to shift attention to them. For the crime of noticing. And the head of the Secret Service, Cheeto-One, is stonewalling Congress' efforts to ask questions about who was responsible for these failures. Protecting the president is a minor consideration. Protecting their DEI jobs is the only priority. It is DEADLY to an organization to fill itself with Snowflake employees who, for ideological/cultic reasons, can under no circumstances ever be criticized or faulted. How can someone correct errors if it's illegal to even point out those errors? How can someone ever improve when every failure is greeted as A Historic First worthy of praise? And fill an organization with Snowflake Incompetents, and a "zero failure" institution now becomes yet another DEI failure factory -- except all failures are re-categorizes as Successes from a Non-White-Cishet-Male Perspective of Lived Experienced. Do you think 2 + 2 =3? Congratulations, you have escaped the White Supremacy paradigm of "Old Thinking." Do you think the small chance of falling from a roof sloped at about a three degree incline is a good enough reason to put the life of a President of the United States at lethal risk? Well good for you! Here's a job at the Clinton-controlled Beacon Strategies. We will pay you well for your Historic First Failures.
"Secret Service boss blames 'sloped roof' for not putting sniper team on building used by would-be Trump assassin: 'There's a safety factor'" https://t.co/8ZtR9SmLmf
— NUNU MEBRATU (@desalgmailegn) July 18, 2024
👉An actual cow on a roof. Are we supposed to believe a US secret Service Agent can't climb a roof ❓🤡 pic.twitter.com/3ZX7VcuP6pComments
(Jump to bottom of comments)1 Gray boxes!Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...liberal esthete at July 18, 2024 05:08 PM (A3700)
2 CalledPosted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 18, 2024 05:08 PM (wse2C)
Posted by: Secret Service Guys at July 18, 2024 05:10 PM (krQz2)
4 Present!Posted by: runner at July 18, 2024 05:10 PM (V7nDg)
5 Ace is the eminence gris of the blogosphere.Posted by: Zombie Breitbart at July 18, 2024 05:10 PM (5TJCW)
6 DC_Draino @DC_Draino
NEW EXCLUSIVE video shows the shooter walking around by himself looking up at rooftops near Trump
How was he not detained?!
Especially after getting caught with a range finder?!
https://tinyurl.com/5f7cp36f
7 secondsPosted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 18, 2024 05:10 PM (wse2C)
7 Trump needs to hire a bunch of ex special forces operators to take over his security and tell the SS to fvck off, they are in charge now.Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 18, 2024 05:10 PM (QNSds)
8 Be. Fucking. Serious.
Even if that were a man, shaped like a beach ball, ducking and unable to holster his weapon, I would be pointing and laughing if it wasn’t so serious.Posted by: Marcus T at July 18, 2024 05:10 PM (dKqd8)
9 Ace...I fixed it...don't save!Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2024 05:11 PM (A3700)
10 They've looked everywhere and have found themselves to be blameless.Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 18, 2024 05:11 PM (MeG8a)
11 The SS Spokesmodel stamped her foot when she was done lecturing the reporters and huffed off. No sex for anyone there tonight, pretty obviously.Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 18, 2024 05:11 PM (WOWGa)
12 New hires for USSS: Squat Guatemalan roofers with wide brimmed hats and tool belts. those fookers are crazy. like mountain goats.Posted by: Pug Mahon, Nothing to Contribute to the Debate at July 18, 2024 05:11 PM (Ad8y9)
13 "As an elite law enforcement agency, all of our agents and officers are highly trained and fully capable of performing our missions," he said.
Except holstering their weapon under pressure.Posted by: Count de Monet at July 18, 2024 05:11 PM (Aqu9a)
14 "To say it plainly: there is no need for women in a president's security detail. The Secret Service is an elite institution that can funnel down a large number of candidates to select the few who will protect the president. The best candidates--the strongest and fastest, the best marksmen--will be men. That's just reality."
If we have a female president, there will be need for a female agent on the body team.
That said, if you just need 1, you will get a very superior female agent b/c it will be such a coveted position.Posted by: Nova Local at July 18, 2024 05:11 PM (exHjb)
15
"In fairness" hat tip Ed Morrissey....
CHeatle is in the unenviable position of having to pretend to have fucked up and be an absolute retard in compliance with her orders.
I am at 1.75 on the Sean Davis conspiracy slider and falling to 2 and probably will not allow myself to go past 3.Posted by: sven at July 18, 2024 05:11 PM (X0I7i)
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 18, 2024 05:11 PM (JeYYB)
17
"The Secret Service, in a statement to NBC News, said..."
Statement? I would like to see this statement?
Shouldn't that be public record?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 18, 2024 05:12 PM (NrlFJ)
18 It's been (5) days and there have been (0) press conferences to update the public from USSS, DHS the FBI or The Meat Puppet Administration on an assassination attempt of a former POTUS and current front runner to be the next POTUS.
That's pretty queer, don't you think?Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 18, 2024 05:12 PM (XV/Pl)
19 There! That lady...the one with her hand in the air assisting PDJT. That one had her act together.
Now, if we could just make her a foot taller...Posted by: creeper at July 18, 2024 05:12 PM (M6moH)
20 "It is an insult to the women of our agency to imply that they are unqualified based on gender. Such baseless assertions undermine the professionalism, dedication and expertise of our workforce," he added.
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He does realize there's video of this, right?Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 18, 2024 05:13 PM (2UnvF)
21 8 Be. Fucking. Serious.
Even if that were a man, shaped like a beach ball, ducking and unable to holster his weapon, I would be pointing and laughing if it wasn’t so serious.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 18, 2024 05:10 PM (dKqd
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100%
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 18, 2024 05:13 PM (JeYYB)
22 If you hire for anything other than competence, you get incompetence.
This is not the nuclear rocket brain surgery.Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 18, 2024 05:13 PM (VavZF)
Posted by: Marcus T at July 18, 2024 05:13 PM (dKqd8)
24 Except holstering their weapon under pressure.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 18, 2024 05:11 PM (Aqu9a)
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In fairness, she did have to get the fat roll away from the holster and that took some time.Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 18, 2024 05:13 PM (WOWGa)
25 It's been (5) days and there have been (0) press conferences to update the public from USSS, DHS the FBI or The Meat Puppet Administration on an assassination attempt of a former POTUS and current front runner to be the next POTUS.
That's pretty queer, don't you think?
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And not one word of criticism from any Democrat, or regime media.Posted by: Methos at July 18, 2024 05:13 PM (Dnobf)
26 Anthony Guglielmi, the Secret Service's chief of communication, said in the statement: "We stand united against any attempt to discredit our personnel ....
Just stop, dude. There's video. The video discredits the agents. The people pointing this out are not doing the discrediting. They're demanding accountability.Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 18, 2024 05:14 PM (tT6L1)
27 Ace...I fixed it...don't save!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2024 05:11 PM (A3700)
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CBD, you're messing with the Gray Agenda!Posted by: Jordan61 at July 18, 2024 05:14 PM (DRSnL)
28 Every nightclub owner knows that physicality matters. A bouncer who is six-foot-five, 200 pounds, will provide better security than a smaller woman. Part of it is signal--size and strength act as a deterrent--and part of it is substance. When a fight breaks out, the nightclub owner learns quickly who is capable of maintaining order and who is not. If he makes the wrong hiring decision, he loses money. It is, in its own way, an honest business.
Stay nice, until it's time to not be nice. - Dalton at the DoubleDeucePosted by: Count de Monet at July 18, 2024 05:14 PM (Aqu9a)
29
List of things that "appall" the Secret Service
Rhetoric against girl agents
Things That Do Not "Appall" the Secret Service
Their own incompetence
Their FAILURE to do their ONE JOBPosted by: Soothsayer at July 18, 2024 05:14 PM (NrlFJ)
30 20 "It is an insult to the women of our agency to imply that they are unqualified based on gender. Such baseless assertions undermine the professionalism, dedication and expertise of our workforce," he added.
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He does realize there's video of this, right?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 18, 2024 05:13 PM (2UnvF)
We fall into the lefties trap by not b&tching out all the USSS that day - men and women - b/c they ALL were the reason Trump got shot. The snipers and crowd team did a way worse job than the body team b/c they let Trump get shot...they just happen to have cover b/c except for 1, they weren't really on camera...Posted by: Nova Local at July 18, 2024 05:14 PM (exHjb)
31 En fuegx!Posted by: That Chick who shouts "En fuegx!" at July 18, 2024 05:14 PM (EUcbP)
32 He does realize there's video of this, right?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 18, 2024 05:13 PM (2UnvF)
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Don't believe your lying eyes!Posted by: Secret Service DEI Chief at July 18, 2024 05:14 PM (WOWGa)
33 "As an elite law enforcement agency, all of our agents and officers are highly trained and fully capable of performing our missions," he said.
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So why didn't you, asshole?Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 18, 2024 05:15 PM (woPEM)
34 One more try...Ace, don't save...I fixed the formating.Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2024 05:15 PM (A3700)
35 CBD, but I'm doing an All-Day All-Gray sale.Posted by: ace at July 18, 2024 05:15 PM (KRtlO)
36
Why is Dildo trying to hurt Ace's peepers?Posted by: Soothsayer at July 18, 2024 05:15 PM (NrlFJ)
37 Competency is the only thing that matters.Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 18, 2024 05:15 PM (c9Bew)
38 Don't worry, Cheatle, the Republicans will stop pouncing soon because their legs will get tired.Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 18, 2024 05:15 PM (+myjY)
39
Ban Dildo.Posted by: Soothsayer at July 18, 2024 05:15 PM (NrlFJ)
40 it was intentional, i'm doing all gray todayPosted by: ace at July 18, 2024 05:15 PM (KRtlO)
41 @25
>>And not one word of criticism from any Democrat, or regime media.
It's literally like it didn't even happen.
Basically, once the assassination attempt failed, the operation seamlessly moved into, we must push Biden out NOW!!!!Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 18, 2024 05:15 PM (XV/Pl)
42 The Secret Service, in a statement to NBC News, said that the criticism from pundits and influencers was baseless…
No, it’s based AFPosted by: haffhowershower at July 18, 2024 05:16 PM (DyhEb)
43 Fat, Short and Unable to holster a firearm is no way for a Secret Service agent to go through life.Posted by: DEAN WORMER at July 18, 2024 05:16 PM (rn2/h)
44 You just don't understand, bigots. Kim Pop and her Girlbosses are succeeding, just succeeding differently. They do not bow to your patriarchal definition of success.Posted by: Eeyore at July 18, 2024 05:16 PM (1bNHn)
45 Kenneth Valentine, a retired Secret Service agent and supervisor, said the photo was not evidence by itself that the female agent was in the wrong position.
"There are a lot of reasons why she might not be on top of that pile," he said in an interview.
She was guarding Trump's soft white underbelly?Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 18, 2024 05:16 PM (+myjY)
46 Secret Cervix Agent 99, reporting for donuts!Posted by: Anti-Faucist at July 18, 2024 05:17 PM (qUkBO)
47 OT , Axios is reporting that Dems are saying that Biden will be out as soon as this weekend. If he's out of the race due to health issues he should resign the presidencyPosted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2024 05:17 PM (Zf6jY)
48 Photo of the whole crew at Butler needed, vs. the Pittsburgh crew for President Jill Biden.
Need height markers on the wall so we can see heights.
Also (no names needed), years and months SS service, for each agent.
Bet that on average, Trump got the minor league.Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 18, 2024 05:17 PM (ixuGr)
49 ace, don't blame CBD. Liberal esthetes are what they are.Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 18, 2024 05:17 PM (tT6L1)
50 Is the SS going for TOTAL loss of prestige? Sure seems like it.Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at July 18, 2024 05:17 PM (Z8Yh2)
51 That's pretty queer, don't you think?
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We're the queerest administration in history, jack!Posted by: Joe Biteme at July 18, 2024 05:17 PM (Taas0)
52 We fall into the lefties trap by not b&tching out all the USSS that day - men and women - b/c they ALL were the reason Trump got shot. The snipers and crowd team did a way worse job than the body team b/c they let Trump get shot...they just happen to have cover b/c except for 1, they weren't really on camera...
Posted by: Nova Local
Body team fucked up by not being at least as tall as Trump. Hard to cover him when you only reach the bottom of his tie.Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 18, 2024 05:17 PM (c9Bew)
53 Do you think the small chance of falling from a roof sloped at about a three degree incline is a good enough reason to put the life of a President of the United States at lethal risk?
*Anything* is a good reason to put the life of Literally Hitler at risk.Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 18, 2024 05:17 PM (VavZF)
54 Why all gray today?Posted by: runner at July 18, 2024 05:18 PM (V7nDg)
55 “What we got here is…. failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it... well, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you men.”Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 18, 2024 05:18 PM (6ydKt)
56 CBD, but I'm doing an All-Day All-Gray sale.
Posted by: ace at July 18, 2024 05:15 PM (KRtlO)
My apologies.
And...I admit...it does go with my clothing today.Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 18, 2024 05:18 PM (A3700)
57 Fox News this morning:
PA commissioner pushes back on Secret Service, says local officers were not responsible for rooftop
Butler Township Commissioner Edward Natali explains officer's confrontation with gunman on roof
"I kept seeing the narrative coming out in the media that it's local police and local police hyphenated, and I said, 'That's just completely unacceptable,'" Natali said on Thursday.
"The Butler Township Police Department is an honorable department, works hard. Our detail was specifically planned for traffic detail only. There was no security, no protection detail whatsoever. We had seven officers deployed, and that's one-third of our total force, and that was again to control traffic, obviously."
"Several thousand cars coming into the area, it's very important," he continued. "Plus also to be there for emergency situations… not someone getting shot… but just… heat and everything."
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It's worth reading and watching in its entirety.Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at July 18, 2024 05:18 PM (NFX2v)
58 Part of it is signal--size and strength act as a deterrent
This, this is why we men to stop working out!
And your GAINZZZZ! Threads are not helping achieve that, Mr. O'Spades!Posted by: Journalist Katie at July 18, 2024 05:18 PM (EUcbP)
59
My eyes just got used to the gray. I liked it.Posted by: Soothsayer at July 18, 2024 05:18 PM (NrlFJ)
60 Cheatle needs to resign. Period.Posted by: Seems Legit at July 18, 2024 05:18 PM (JeYYB)
61 I like my Secret Service agent to be female.Posted by: Joe Biden, swimmer in chief at July 18, 2024 05:18 PM (WOWGa)
62 Willowed:
Federal judge says 7 year olds don't have first amendment rights.
I was not aware there were age limits on the bill of rights.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
*cough 2nd Amendment cough*Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 18, 2024 05:18 PM (c9Bew)
63
If only they'd hired woman that weren't 4'6.
There are some women I've seen that I would be afraid of. But all these female agents from the Pennsylvania Rally look like they could have been cast in the Wizard of Oz and Munchinland townspeople.Posted by: Frank Barone at July 18, 2024 05:18 PM (+oR7L)
64 52 We fall into the lefties trap by not b&tching out all the USSS that day - men and women - b/c they ALL were the reason Trump got shot. The snipers and crowd team did a way worse job than the body team b/c they let Trump get shot...they just happen to have cover b/c except for 1, they weren't really on camera...
Posted by: Nova Local
Body team fucked up by not being at least as tall as Trump. Hard to cover him when you only reach the bottom of his tie.
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 18, 2024 05:17 PM (c9Bew)
He was shot before cover happened - they didn't let him get shot again, so while they may have looked like a minor league crew, they did accomplish their job, while the other 2 groups did not...Posted by: Nova Local at July 18, 2024 05:18 PM (exHjb)
65 It's hilarious how rank incompetence and corruption are never the story. The Right's outrageously political reaction to incompetence and corruption are always the story.Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 18, 2024 05:18 PM (+myjY)
66 Darn cow on my roof again. Stop dancing up there!Posted by: Benny Hill, 1978 at July 18, 2024 05:18 PM (V5BDR)
67 Body team does not, in fact, possess Jedi force powers.Posted by: Count de Monet at July 18, 2024 05:19 PM (Aqu9a)
68 The Graystoration!Posted by: ace at July 18, 2024 05:19 PM (KRtlO)
69 I honestly don't think females should be street cops let alone be in supposedly elite USSS ground teams.Posted by: SamIam at July 18, 2024 05:19 PM (oasF3)
70 I Meme Therefore I Am @ImMeme0
The man is TROLLING of the Secret Service! 🤣🤣🤣
https://tinyurl.com/4rt2azmk
28 seconds
DC_Draino @DC_Draino Jul 16
Bud Light: Nobody can destroy an all-American brand faster than us!
Secret Service: hold my unholstered pistolPosted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 18, 2024 05:19 PM (wse2C)
71 Why all gray today?
Posted by: runner at July 18, 2024 05:18 PM (V7nDg)
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It's better for Ace's borked eyes.Posted by: Jordan61 at July 18, 2024 05:19 PM (DRSnL)
72 The three female idiots described in the article and seen in the videos aren’t DEI hires. They are way worse than that.
I’m assuming there are at least three fit, athletic, tall, and competent women in the SS. If there’s a need to out women on important jobs, then why aren’t these fit women assigned to one of the most important jobs in the SS, guarding the former President?
Why where these pudgy, scared, uncoordinated, bottom-of-the-barrel women assigned instead? I swear it was done intentionally to help facilitate he murder of Trump.Posted by: Elric Blade at July 18, 2024 05:19 PM (8eKkh)
73 Gray is difficult to read....Posted by: runner at July 18, 2024 05:19 PM (V7nDg)
74
The U.S. Secret Service said Wednesday that it stood by its decision to hire female agents of four foot eleven in height to protect a six foot four former President because he said "Pussy".
That pretty raps it up, neatly. I like neatly.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 18, 2024 05:19 PM (RKVpM)
75 Happy Gray!Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 18, 2024 05:19 PM (PiwSw)
76 Just look at all the black people I hired for my administration, Jack!Posted by: President Potatohead at July 18, 2024 05:19 PM (+myjY)
77 Do you think the small chance of falling from a roof sloped at about a three degree incline is a good enough reason to put the life of a President of the United States at lethal risk?
If an untrained 20 yr old can do it, then the professionals had better be able to.Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 18, 2024 05:20 PM (c9Bew)
78 It's a whole new blog!Posted by: CharlieGray'sDildo at July 18, 2024 05:20 PM (A3700)
79 It's hilarious how rank incompetence and corruption are never the story. The Right's outrageously political reaction to incompetence and corruption are always the story.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 18, 2024 05:18 PM (+myjY)
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Well, our reaction to Democrats screwups is always the story. We are prone to seizing and pouncing.Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 18, 2024 05:20 PM (tT6L1)
80 Assign team gurl power to Obama, Jill and Joe.Posted by: 13times at July 18, 2024 05:20 PM (2iT5l)
81 JFC - They deliberately were short staffing Tump and sending him TSA crotch grabbers rebranded as SS.Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 18, 2024 05:20 PM (cOq4q)
82 No fun waggling my Willie in front of male agents. Pool time!Posted by: Uncle Joe, Movin' Kinda Slow at July 18, 2024 05:20 PM (V5BDR)
83 Is the SS going for TOTAL loss of prestige? Sure seems like it.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at July 18, 2024 05:17 PM
So we have a chance to regain the Top. Men. title?Posted by: F.B.I. at July 18, 2024 05:20 PM (EUcbP)
84 Conservatives are Seizing, Pouncing, and Outraging!Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 18, 2024 05:20 PM (PYAz2)
85
If JFK had had female agents in Dallas on November 22, 1963 he would be alive today. Because he never would have left the hotel room, banging 2 agents at a time.
True story. No joke.Posted by: Joe Biden at July 18, 2024 05:21 PM (+oR7L)
86 >>> 67 Body team does not, in fact, possess Jedi force powers.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 18, 2024 05:19 PM (Aqu9a)
Oh yeah?
You just watch my motherfcking magic push!Posted by: Kim Cheeto, lesbian space witch at July 18, 2024 05:21 PM (VavZF)
Posted by: Big Mike at July 18, 2024 05:21 PM (Taas0)
Posted by: Jordan61 at July 18, 2024 05:21 PM (DRSnL)
89
You know why NBC had to use that embarrassing pic that doesn't help their case?
Because there are no images that reflect positively on the SS DIE hires. None. They used the least-worse pic.Posted by: Soothsayer at July 18, 2024 05:21 PM (NrlFJ)
90 I could easily take those chubby SS chicks in a fight and I'm small. Just don't ask me to bench press their fat asses.Posted by: The Walking Dude at July 18, 2024 05:21 PM (cCxiu)
91 The only acceptable female who would be capable of protecting Trump would be Brigitte Nielson with a Colt Anaconda.Posted by: mpfs at July 18, 2024 05:21 PM (c4NPH)
92 The three female idiots described in the article and seen in the videos aren’t DEI hires. They are way worse than that.
I’m assuming there are at least three fit, athletic, tall, and competent women in the SS. If there’s a need to out women on important jobs, then why aren’t these fit women assigned to one of the most important jobs in the SS, guarding the former President?
Why where these pudgy, scared, uncoordinated, bottom-of-the-barrel women assigned instead? I swear it was done intentionally to help facilitate he murder of Trump.
Posted by: Elric Blade
Since the USSS is part of the government, why can't the military TDY some sec ops to guard the president?Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 18, 2024 05:21 PM (c9Bew)
93 Should they hire ibexes for this sort of dangerous climb?Posted by: Eeyore at July 18, 2024 05:22 PM (1bNHn)
94 The agents seem fit to me.Posted by: Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman at July 18, 2024 05:22 PM (PiwSw)
95 Darn cow on my roof again. Stop dancing up there!
Posted by: Benny Hill, 1978 at July 18, 2024 05:18 PM
You advertised for a hoofer.Posted by: The Cow at July 18, 2024 05:22 PM (EUcbP)
96 81 JFC - They deliberately were short staffing Tump and sending him TSA crotch grabbers rebranded as SS.
yeah I mean it's pointless to keep going over it.
it was an assassination attempt by an entity like the CIA or the Chinese or George Soros himself or whoever. Deep state. the Keystone Kop-esque SS was just to grease the skids of the op.Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 18, 2024 05:22 PM (s3qiR)
97 "If Trump didn't want to die, he should have never dared to defeat Hillary and deny her her rightful coronation! REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!"Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 18, 2024 05:22 PM (PYAz2)
98 Guglielmi, the Secret Service's chief of communication, said in the statement: "We stand united against any attempt to discredit our personnel ..
Then the whole worthless lot of you should be fired.Posted by: gKWVE at July 18, 2024 05:23 PM (gKWVE)
99
Honestly, the BEST pic that shows the DIE Agents in a positive light is the now-iconic image with President Trump and the flag and the blue sky.
But NBC cannot use that one, because it makes Trump look, well, iconic.Posted by: Soothsayer at July 18, 2024 05:23 PM (NrlFJ)
100 Can we do a special collection and get Ace a Warby Parker gift card?Posted by: Aye, Aye, Sir at July 18, 2024 05:23 PM (V5BDR)
101 Number 1: "Number 7, you have failed in your mission."
Frau Cheatle: "Yes, No. 1. It will not happen again."
Number 1: "I will make sure of that."Posted by: Ernst Stavro Biden at July 18, 2024 05:23 PM (qUkBO)
102 We alls hope Presdent Obama give a evening spreech two tell us what to do regarding Presdent Biden.Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at July 18, 2024 05:23 PM (1t11C)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 18, 2024 05:24 PM (woPEM)
104 Why where these pudgy, scared, uncoordinated, bottom-of-the-barrel women assigned instead?
DOCTOR Jill was assigned all the fit agents so we had to send Spanx Team Six to keep an eye on Drumpf.Posted by: Director Cheetohs at July 18, 2024 05:24 PM (+myjY)
105 I like the fact PDT got back up like he did. He was obviously furious at what happened.Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 18, 2024 05:24 PM (tT6L1)
106 am at 1.75 on the Sean Davis conspiracy slider and falling to 2 and probably will not allow myself to go past 3.
Posted by: sven at July 18, 2024 05:11 PM (X0I7i
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I'm at a 2.Posted by: WisRich at July 18, 2024 05:24 PM (Qgr0I)
107 Honestly, I don't see the failure on Saturday as being from DEI. Resources had been diverted elsewhere to intentionally leave Trump vulnerable.
The DEI thing is a legit issue, but wasn't what caused the problem - this time, anyway.
Some of the criticisms of the women seem unfair (fumbled around with her gun in a stressful situation), but other concerns are legit (too short, not strong enough to wrestle with a potential assailant). Let's remember that these weren't the first-stringers, so if they weren't as on top of things as the normal guys that's kind of on their bosses who put them in a situation they were not ready for.Posted by: MrExcitement at July 18, 2024 05:24 PM (hOOi9)
108 But NBC cannot use that one, because it makes Trump look, well, iconic.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 18, 2024 05:23 PM (NrlFJ)
It's like helping his campaign, man!Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 18, 2024 05:25 PM (+myjY)
109 Gaming out the Biden shitshow...the smart thing to do would be for him to claim long Covid and hand over power to Chlamydia Harris. Then they can claim she is getting up to speed and will be at 100% before the election.Posted by: CharlieGray'sDildo at July 18, 2024 05:25 PM (A3700)
110 The Secret Service is convinced the real problem is mockery of the failure and not the failing itself.
One of my daughters, when she was early in her teen years, felt similarly, but she grew out of it.Posted by: Joe Biden, swimmer in chief at July 18, 2024 05:25 PM (WOWGa)
111 The local cops are probably the ones that did their jobs correctly. I believe the Butler mayor about that.
Somebody has to answer for why they let Trump on stage and that ain’t the local cops call.Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 18, 2024 05:25 PM (2fIO4)
112 55 “What we got here is…. failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. (...)
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 18, 2024 05:18 PM (6ydKt)
That's been my voicemail message since I got my first smartphone.Posted by: goozer at July 18, 2024 05:25 PM (aWAkn)
113
There's everything that a four foot eleven woman can do better then a four one male teenager with severe acne to protect a six foot four former President.
I shouldn't have to explain this to you.Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 18, 2024 05:25 PM (RKVpM)
114 >>> 15
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I am at 1.75 on the Sean Davis conspiracy slider and falling to 2 and probably will not allow myself to go past 3.
Posted by: sven at July 18, 2024 05:11 PM (X0I7i)
What's the max on that slider?Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 18, 2024 05:25 PM (VavZF)
115 The DEI thing is a legit issue, but wasn't what caused the problem - this time, anyway.
If not for DEI, those lame ass agents wouldn't be there.Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 18, 2024 05:26 PM (c9Bew)
116
These girls have no business in the field.
They all belong in some basement with Sharpies, examining $100 bills all day. This one's good...this one's good...this one's bad...Posted by: Soothsayer at July 18, 2024 05:26 PM (NrlFJ)
117 >>Even if that were a man, shaped like a beach ball, ducking and unable to holster his weapon, I would be pointing and laughing if it wasn’t so serious.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 18, 2024 05:10 PM (dKqd
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What if she identified as a man? Would criticism of it now be ok?Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 18, 2024 05:26 PM (CWMF2)
118 You wanna bet they sent most of the chics to Trump's detail because they thought it would piss him off?Posted by: PFC Obvious at July 18, 2024 05:26 PM (ikAZq)
119 Since the progs forced acceptance of gay marriage as the law of the land, they got the idea that everything should work this way.
They should just be able to announce the new standards, and we should just fall in and acceptPosted by: Axeman at July 18, 2024 05:26 PM (OaZlZ)
120 Jill will never be forced from office.Posted by: 13times at July 18, 2024 05:26 PM (2iT5l)
121 103 Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 18, 2024 05:24 PM (woPEM)
WHAT?
You do not believe six camera went our simultaneously, thirteen agents were ALL asleep contra to policy and that paper pants cannot choke a person?
WHAT ARE YOU A RUSSIAN SON?
//Merry Garland A(sshole) GeneralPosted by: sven at July 18, 2024 05:26 PM (X0I7i)
122 See the USSS in the remake of: Shakiest Gun in the WestPosted by: Count de Monet at July 18, 2024 05:26 PM (Aqu9a)
123 The only acceptable female who would be capable of protecting Trump would be Brigitte Nielson with a Colt Anaconda.
Posted by: mpfs
Sandahl Bergman with her sword (Conan the Barbarian), or Grace Jones from Conan the Destroyer might also work.Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 18, 2024 05:26 PM (VNX3d)
124 Gotta love the attempted defense of the fatty obviously cowering in fear behind Trump. Ok, so if she was indeed not cowering, and doing something that she was supposed to be doing, then tell us what that something was. I’ll wait.Posted by: Elric Blade at July 18, 2024 05:26 PM (8eKkh)
125 I like my Secret Service agent to be female.
Posted by: Joe Biden, swimmer in chief at July 18, 2024 05:18 PM
I wonder how many of them he tried to fvck or sexually assault when he was vp? Had to be in the dozens.Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 18, 2024 05:27 PM (QNSds)
126 In fact, wouldn't they have sent junior female agents they didn't care about to be body team if they wanted Trump dead so that we'd be fighting about how DIE couldn't do the job while everyone else ignored that the paid off USSS non-DIE men let the actual assassination event happen?
I mean, imagine Trump is dead...they set up those female agents to be the patsies, so no one would be looking at why the men didn't snipe the assassin in the 30 minutes they knew about him...it's only b/c Trump is alive that we have the time and energy to try to break this entire sequence down...otherwise, Nikki would be calling for unity and support for Trump and his family in the midst of tragedy with time for pointing fingers later (which never happens)...Posted by: Nova Local at July 18, 2024 05:27 PM (exHjb)
127 Cut out this beach ball talk! I mean it!Posted by: Jerrold Nadler at July 18, 2024 05:27 PM (PiwSw)
128 114 Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 18, 2024 05:25 PM (VavZF)
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I am desperately not trying to get past 2.Posted by: sven at July 18, 2024 05:27 PM (X0I7i)
129 >"We stand united against any attempt to discredit our personnel ..
you are already discredited, by virtue of your complete failure last week in PennsylvaniaPosted by: Don Black at July 18, 2024 05:27 PM (/7KEl)
130 Let's remember that these weren't the first-stringers, so if they weren't as on top of things as the normal guys that's kind of on their bosses who put them in a situation they were not ready for.
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 18, 2024 05:24 PM (hOOi9)
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Not knowing what details they were on before it’s hard to tell but I suspect they were the greenest of the green and put in a situation way beyond their capabilities, a management issue.Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 18, 2024 05:27 PM (2fIO4)
131 Some of the criticisms of the women seem unfair (fumbled around with her gun in a stressful situation), but other concerns are legit (too short, not strong enough to wrestle with a potential assailant).
Criticisms based on sh*tty training and skills are unfair? Even short, fat, weak people can learn gun handling skills if they want to badly enough.Posted by: Oddbob at July 18, 2024 05:27 PM (/y8xj)
132 Meade Lux Lewis, here's something I hadn't read at the time: He said the “ruling families of the world” were scheduled to meet at Trump’s residence for “an interdimensional peace conference.”
Make The Multiverse Great Again.Posted by: gKWVE at July 18, 2024 05:28 PM (gKWVE)
133 125 Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 18, 2024 05:27 PM (QNSds)
In know of at least one, but as they say you can't rape the willing....
//Cheatle USSSPosted by: sven at July 18, 2024 05:28 PM (X0I7i)
134 Again, this was not incompetence, it was a planned assassination by the federal government of a former US president and now presidential candidate. Nothing will change my mind about this.Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 18, 2024 05:28 PM (/U5Yz)
135 "Protecting the president is a minor consideration. Protecting their DEI jobs is the only priority."
Maximizing their Civil Service Senior Executive Service (SES) bonuses is a mega-priority consideration for the top dogs. Did you fully meet all the Critical Elements of your DEI Implementation and Hiring Critical Performance Task in your Performance Plan for this year?
This is how the Administration forces upper and mid-upper-level Civil Service managers to do its bidding. Requiring inclusion of DEI and related junk in each employee's Performance Plan each year. If your boss gives you an average or below rating, no bonus this year. Rate below average for a couple years in a row and your cushy job can be at risk. Bonuses for SES-level managers can be substantial. Every CS employee can get a bonus every year from Uncle Sugar, if their performance is rated high enough. I'm retired and can't recall the exact amounts of my bonuses, but they many hundreds, not tens, of dollars.Posted by: Gref at July 18, 2024 05:28 PM (5fDan)
136 Ace is the eminence gris of the blogosphere.
Posted by: Zombie Breitbart at July 18, 2024 05:10 PM (5TJCW)
It's a put-on.Posted by: ... at July 18, 2024 05:28 PM (lX8VI)
137 These girls have no business in the field.
They all belong in some basement with Sharpies, examining $100 bills all day. This one's good...this one's good...this one's bad...
Posted by: Soothsayer
If they're using sharpies, all the bills will be bad.Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 18, 2024 05:28 PM (c9Bew)
138 Honestly, the BEST pic that shows the DIE Agents in a positive light is the now-iconic image with President Trump and the flag and the blue sky.
But NBC cannot use that one, because it makes Trump look, well, iconic.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 18, 2024 05:23 PM (NrlFJ)
But isn't part of the reason it makes such a great picture is that Trump is towering over one of the women, so we get a good look at him? It actually highlights one of the problems with DEI, doesn't it?Posted by: MrExcitement at July 18, 2024 05:28 PM (hOOi9)
Posted by: Ciampino - Thur Update #16 at July 18, 2024 05:29 PM (qfLjt)
140 It's better for Ace's borked eyes.
Posted by: Jordan61 at July 18, 2
Oh, ok did not know. Carry on.Posted by: runner at July 18, 2024 05:29 PM (V7nDg)
141 I don't believe Joetato skinny dips anymore. He wears a swim diaper, I'll bet.Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 18, 2024 05:29 PM (WOWGa)
142 Saw a YouTube video the Overwatch team who got the sniper was fired bout doubting thatPosted by: Skip at July 18, 2024 05:29 PM (fwDg9)
143 Again, this was not incompetence, it was a planned assassination by the federal government of a former US president and now presidential candidate. Nothing will change my mind about this.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
It can be both.Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 18, 2024 05:29 PM (c9Bew)
144
The male agents never wanted to be around my Dog.
The female agents never wanted to be around me.
Why is that?Posted by: Joe Biden at July 18, 2024 05:29 PM (+oR7L)
145 115 >>The DEI thing is a legit issue, but wasn't what caused the problem - this time, anyway.
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If not for DEI, those lame ass agents wouldn't be there.
Posted by: rickb223
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Yeah, imagine your best experience tells you that 10 agents are needed, and DC sends you 5 agents and 5 short fat annoyances.
People like that -- without the right attitude or experience -- have negative value. They make the productive workers less productive.Posted by: PFC Obvious at July 18, 2024 05:29 PM (ikAZq)
146 I am fire with new color schemePosted by: Skip at July 18, 2024 05:29 PM (fwDg9)
147 134 Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 18, 2024 05:28 PM (/U5Yz)
That is three where they WILLFULLY tried to leave the opening...
Door #4 is the shithead was a Grown Wolf and the IC is asses and elbows in like the FIB and the Gritchen Vitmer operation.Posted by: sven at July 18, 2024 05:30 PM (X0I7i)
148 99
Honestly, the BEST pic that shows the DIE Agents in a positive light is the now-iconic image with President Trump and the flag and the blue sky.
It looks like a Frazetta painting of Bran Mak Morn ready to punch out some Picts.Posted by: gKWVE at July 18, 2024 05:30 PM (gKWVE)
149 DEI is for fags and retards.Posted by: Minuteman at July 18, 2024 05:30 PM (LaNzR)
150 Hear me out, but I think at this point assuming anything but an operation of maximum intentionality makes you the tinfoil hat nutter.Posted by: ... at July 18, 2024 05:30 PM (lX8VI)
151 >>> 107
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Some of the criticisms of the women seem unfair (fumbled around with her gun in a stressful situation), but other concerns are legit (too short, not strong enough to wrestle with a potential assailant). Let's remember that these weren't the first-stringers, so if they weren't as on top of things as the normal guys that's kind of on their bosses who put them in a situation they were not ready for.
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 18, 2024 05:24 PM (hOOi9)
They're not qualified even to be local PD; they have no fcking business being in the USSS.Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 18, 2024 05:30 PM (VavZF)
152 You just know it's going to come out the agent in charge during the event called Cheatle about what was going on and Cheatle blew off the agent.Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 18, 2024 05:30 PM (tT6L1)
153 Aren’t there fitness standards for these roles? I do not think all women should be excluded, but their roles need to be appropriate and this isn’t it. I am 5’1. I am not guarding anyone effectively. It’s just reality. But I could scope out a scene and tell someone their butt needs to be on that roof with a cooling jacket.Posted by: Piper at July 18, 2024 05:31 PM (pZEOD)
154 That is three where they WILLFULLY tried to leave the opening...
Door #4 is the shithead was a Grown Wolf and the IC is asses and elbows in like the FIB and the Gritchen Vitmer operation.
Posted by: sven at July 18, 2024 05:30 PM (X0I7i)
What is the Sven Diagram between 3 and 4Posted by: ... at July 18, 2024 05:31 PM (lX8VI)
Posted by: m at July 18, 2024 05:31 PM (64Zez)
156 Criticisms based on sh*tty training and skills are unfair? Even short, fat, weak people can learn gun handling skills if they want to badly enough.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 18, 2024 05:27 PM (/y8xj)
Like I said, these were second-stringers (maybe not even Secret Service) who should not have even been there. They probably just didn't have the necessary experience and training.Posted by: MrExcitement at July 18, 2024 05:32 PM (hOOi9)
157 Even the Uganda kids' reenactment has the Secret Service players taller than the President Trump player!Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at July 18, 2024 05:32 PM (3iMA8)
158 What if she identified as a man? Would criticism of it now be ok?
Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 18, 2024 05:26 PM
Without xir's pronouns, we may never know.Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 18, 2024 05:32 PM (EUcbP)
159 It's nice to see Natalie from Facts of Life found work with the secret service.Posted by: CaliGirl at July 18, 2024 05:32 PM (uHd5d)
160 The Secret Service is "appalled" by DEI rhetoric directed toward female agents.
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They're appalled? I'm guessing they'll get over it.
In the meantime, how about using only the female agents to protect Biden? Deal?Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 18, 2024 05:32 PM (YqDXo)
161 One reliable sign that everything is 100% on the up and up is days, weeks or months of stonewalling.Posted by: ... at July 18, 2024 05:32 PM (lX8VI)
162 Somebody needs to find out why Austin Private Wealth LLC shorted 12 million shares of Trump stocks the day before the assassination attempt.
The LLC is saying "it was an accident".Posted by: Malicious Compliance at July 18, 2024 05:32 PM (OBuuS)
163 Biology is not biased.Posted by: Minnfidel at July 18, 2024 05:32 PM (ewjUl)
164 150 Hear me out, but I think at this point assuming anything but an operation of maximum intentionality makes you the tinfoil hat nutter.
thank you three dots
how obvious does it have to be?
and the Ds scrambling suddenly this week?
open your eyes peoplePosted by: BlackOrchid at July 18, 2024 05:32 PM (s3qiR)
165 I want to see the pulled detail for Jill. What did they look like?Posted by: Piper at July 18, 2024 05:33 PM (pZEOD)
166 >>>It looks like a Frazetta painting of Bran Mak Morn ready to punch out some Picts.
STYGIAN DOGS!!!Posted by: Conan the Destroyer at July 18, 2024 05:33 PM (KRtlO)
167 Kimberly Cheatle should pledge to have nothing but female agents in her personal detail for as long as she has a detail.Posted by: Charles Martel at July 18, 2024 05:33 PM (6Gpcl)
Posted by: Minuteman at July 18, 2024 05:33 PM (LaNzR)
169
In the meantime, how about using only the female agents to protect Biden? Deal?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 18, 2024 05:32 PM
THIS!Posted by: Minnfidel at July 18, 2024 05:33 PM (ewjUl)
170 Everyone is speculating about Biden dropping out of the race. Just a moment... if the SS worked for Trump and had nearly gotten Biden killed, it would be story #1 every day! But the other way around, and nobody cares who the SS ditz works for!Posted by: Ray Van Dune at July 18, 2024 05:34 PM (gfztU)
171 >>> 153 Aren’t there fitness standards for these roles? I do not think all women should be excluded, but their roles need to be appropriate and this isn’t it. I am 5’1. I am not guarding anyone effectively. It’s just reality. But I could scope out a scene and tell someone their butt needs to be on that roof with a cooling jacket.
Posted by: Piper at July 18, 2024 05:31 PM (pZEOD)
There are; can't remember where I saw them, but USSS has distinctly *lower* standard for women vs men.Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 18, 2024 05:34 PM (VavZF)
Posted by: m at July 18, 2024 05:34 PM (64Zez)
173 Trump said pussy.
And guess what Jack? I’ll be damned if they didn’t hire them for the secret service.
And that’s the thanks he got?Posted by: haffhowershower at July 18, 2024 05:34 PM (DyhEb)
174 NYTimes is reporting that Biden has accepted that he has to leave. Might just be a false report to try and push him, but this is now two outlets. Not enough popcornPosted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2024 05:34 PM (Zf6jY)
175 25 years ago SFFD hired a 4’10” Asian female that couldn’t lift a 32’ type III extension ladder. And here we are …Posted by: 13times at July 18, 2024 05:34 PM (2iT5l)
176 I'm appalled they almost got a president killed. Does that make us even, or nah bro?Posted by: ... at July 18, 2024 05:34 PM (lX8VI)
177 I will say I have a thing about women in uniform, and I can't even really explain it. I have no idea where it comes from.
I wanna DEI the ponytail agent there. Or ponytail the DEI agent. I don't know which. I just wanna.Posted by: BurtTC at July 18, 2024 05:34 PM (wjmSl)
178 It's been (5) days and there have been (0) press conferences to update the public from USSS, DHS the FBI or The Meat Puppet Administration on an assassination attempt of a former POTUS and current front runner to be the next POTUS.
That's pretty queer, don't you think?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 18, 2024 05:12 PM (XV/Pl)
The press conference lectern has a sloped roof. Too risky.Posted by: Oldcat at July 18, 2024 05:34 PM (eoQWY)
179 I am 5’1. I am not guarding anyone effectively.
Posted by: Piper at July 18, 2024 05:31 PM (pZEOD)
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How about Robert Reich? George Snuffleapagous?Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 18, 2024 05:34 PM (YqDXo)
180 No one points this out, but it bothers me so I will.
Their instinct is to cower, but their training is to stand tall and act as a shield. In movies and old video of real events, the agents never duck down when protecting someone.
But I see a lot of ducking and cowering agents trying to make themselves small. I guess this is lack of training and not understanding of their role (hiding and protecting the President).Posted by: PFC Obvious at July 18, 2024 05:34 PM (ikAZq)
181 No this color scheme would be good for ONT when I pop in during insomniaPosted by: Skip at July 18, 2024 05:35 PM (fwDg9)
182 How do you create female SS Agents?
I think of a male SS Agent, and I take away reason and accountability.Posted by: As Good as it Gets at July 18, 2024 05:35 PM (QAK8m)
183 Maybe we'll never see Biden again.
I would be in favor of that.Posted by: m at July 18, 2024 05:35 PM (64Zez)
184 Aren’t there fitness standards for these roles? I do not think all women should be excluded, but their roles need to be appropriate and this isn’t it. I am 5’1. I am not guarding anyone effectively. It’s just reality. But I could scope out a scene and tell someone their butt needs to be on that roof with a cooling jacket.
Posted by: Piper at July 18, 2024 05:31 PM (pZEOD)
There are; can't remember where I saw them, but USSS has distinctly *lower* standard for women vs men.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 18, 2024 05:34 PM (VavZF)
No. Standards get reduced, but when DEI hires fail them they get hired anyway.Posted by: Oldcat at July 18, 2024 05:35 PM (eoQWY)
185 >>> 162 Somebody needs to find out why Austin Private Wealth LLC shorted 12 million shares of Trump stocks the day before the assassination attempt.
The LLC is saying "it was an accident".
Posted by: Malicious Compliance at July 18, 2024 05:32 PM (OBuuS)
Uh huh, they were off by a factor of what was it, 1000?Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 18, 2024 05:36 PM (VavZF)
186 Apparently, Joetato forgot Lloyd Austin's name again, this time in an interview with BET TV, and just referred to him as "the black guy". Wonder if he calls Mayor Pete "the queer guy"...Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 18, 2024 05:36 PM (WOWGa)
187 154 Posted by: ... at July 18, 2024 05:31 PM (lX8VI)
Step one is "shit happens and they just suck"
Step two is "rogue people from Cincy in incorrectly thinking they were *helping* their preferred candidate purposefully short-changed the detail but that is the limit of misdeed."
Step three is adminsitration offficials overtly and tacitly told the USSS, DHS et al to play games with Trump and Kennedy's protection because "our guy is the only one that matters." Still shitty but not as shitty as...
Door #4
"Hey Merrick tell Wray to have agents in the Pittsburgh office cultivate that kid the people from Blackrock used in that commercial to make him a patsy, we have plans for the GOP convention."
I cannot allow myself easily to go to door #4.Posted by: sven at July 18, 2024 05:36 PM (X0I7i)
Posted by: Ciampino - Thur Update #17 at July 18, 2024 05:36 PM (qfLjt)
189 I'm a short guy. No one's ever had any problem
telling me I was unsuited for this or that. But say the same thing about short women with far less muscle and strength and some people lose their minds. Women should just be walled off from some things altogether because they are unsuited to it. And even if you can find some monstrous, hulking female, she'll still be inferior to men of the same size. Making room for nearly nonexistent exceptions to these rules is a waste of time.Posted by: Men and Women Aren't Interchangeable at July 18, 2024 05:36 PM (8Ttux)
190 182 How do you create female SS Agents?
Posted by: As Good as it Gets at July 18, 2024 05:35 PM (QAK8m)
When a mommy and a daddy SS Agent love each other very much ...Posted by: m at July 18, 2024 05:36 PM (64Zez)
191 NYTimes is reporting that Biden has accepted that he has to leave. Might just be a false report to try and push him, but this is now two outlets. Not enough popcorn
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2024 05:34 PM
I read earlier that obama said publicly that it was time for joe to step down which begs the question, if joe biden isn't capable of running for a second term then.... WHY THE FVCK IS HE STILL PRESIDENT?Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 18, 2024 05:36 PM (QNSds)
192 I like the gray scheme, Ace. I also have dry eye, sometimes making the burning feeling incapacitating.
Neutral background colors rather than white on the screen helps alleviate this a bit for me.Posted by: Gref at July 18, 2024 05:36 PM (5fDan)
193 Maybe the person who entered the short order had a desk that was too sloped.Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 18, 2024 05:36 PM (VavZF)
194 Crouching Agent Hidden AgendaPosted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 18, 2024 05:36 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: ... at July 18, 2024 05:36 PM (lX8VI)
196 Bob Menendez denies reports he will quit Senate after bribery conviction
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Well, what's the Senate for anyway?Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at July 18, 2024 05:36 PM (L/fGl)
197 Why are there no paraplegic Secret Service agents?
Haters
Posted by: Minuteman at July 18, 2024 05:33 PM
Eileen and Bob, reporting for duty!Posted by: Just the punchline at July 18, 2024 05:36 PM (EUcbP)
198 New SS Recruits - please note - all roofs you fall off of must first be inspected and approved by Agent Cupcake!Posted by: Boswell at July 18, 2024 05:36 PM (K+UlC)
199 Someone shorted a bunch of stock in PDT? I hope they lost enough to hurt.Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 18, 2024 05:36 PM (tT6L1)
200 Hear me out, but I think at this point assuming anything but an operation of maximum intentionality makes you the tinfoil hat nutter.
Posted by: ... at July 18, 2024 05:30 PM (lX8VI)
Be kind. I agree with you there's no possibility this wasn't intentional (at least at the level of whoever had command Saturday and above that person), but I think it's pretty understandable most people are resistant to that because of the scope of the implications.Posted by: Methos at July 18, 2024 05:36 PM (Dnobf)
201 Everyone is speculating about Biden dropping out of the race. Just a moment... if the SS worked for Trump and had nearly gotten Biden killed, it would be story #1 every day! But the other way around, and nobody cares who the SS ditz works for!
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at July 18, 2024 05:34 PM (gfztU)
I'm stuck around family, and when they have the teevee on, it's Faux Nooz, all the time. Apparently that's all they care about, Biden has the Covids, and will he drop out???
Nobody on that shitty corporate media network seems to care about anything else.Posted by: BurtTC at July 18, 2024 05:37 PM (DbWxt)
202 According to SS recruiting literature I've seen, the protected classes include "disability."
I believe there are many, many jobs you can perform despite some disability, but there are a handful of jobs that require extraordinary ability. If you have Any Physical Disability What So Ever, you shouldn't waste your time applying for these jobs.
I'm fringe that way.Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 18, 2024 05:37 PM (wzAuc)
203 Aren’t there fitness standards for these roles? I do not think all women should be excluded, but their roles need to be appropriate and this isn’t it. I am 5’1. I am not guarding anyone effectively. It’s just reality. But I could scope out a scene and tell someone their butt needs to be on that roof with a cooling jacket.
Agree. Wise, but otherwise not intimidating can have value. Yoda, for example.Posted by: Archimedes at July 18, 2024 05:37 PM (xCA6C)
204 The criticisms follow a pattern from other recent news events where conservative pundits and lawmakers, without evidence, cite "diversity, equity and inclusion" (DEI) programs as a contributing cause in disasters as disparate as the Boeing-made airplane problems or the Baltimore bridge collapse.
Airplanes falling out of the sky. Bridges falling into the ocean. Presidents being hit with bullets.
Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is DEI in action.Posted by: mikeski, without evidence at July 18, 2024 05:37 PM (DgGvY)
205 But I could scope out a scene and tell someone their butt needs to be on that roof with a cooling jacket.
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That's the problem too, though.
Why should the women get those types of easy jobs, especially without the experience of having to do the difficult ones?Posted by: Moron Robbie won't say I told you so about the tranny at July 18, 2024 05:37 PM (NT6Qv)
206 Somebody needs to find out why Austin Private Wealth LLC shorted 12 million shares of Trump stocks the day before the assassination attempt.
The LLC is saying "it was an accident".
Posted by: Malicious Compliance at July 18, 2024 05:32 PM (OBuuS)
So who did you fire, since that lost you a crap load of money....should be willing to give out that information.Posted by: Oldcat at July 18, 2024 05:38 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: steevy at July 18, 2024 05:38 PM (HJ9BW)
208 I read earlier that obama said publicly that it was time for joe to step down which begs the question, if joe biden isn't capable of running for a second term then.... WHY THE FVCK IS HE STILL PRESIDENT?
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 18, 2024 05:36 PM (QNSds)
He's able to stand trial for possession of classified documents...... oh wait. No path to conviction because he's like any juror's grandpa.Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 18, 2024 05:38 PM (N39Ws)
209 The Secret Service, in a statement to NBC News, said that the criticism from pundits and influencers was baseless. The agency also stood by its commitment to diversity in recruiting as helping, not hurting, the effectiveness of its protective teams.
So don't believe your lying eyes. They don't want to acknowledge that a lot of criticism has come from people who have served in combat, law enforcement and other highly critical positions where situational awareness, immediate/clear communications, and split second response are crucial elements in life or death situations. There are a lot of laymen that have criticized the USSS because they know incompetence when they see it. As a female veteran, I am embarrassed by those women who would be better suited worked at an Arby's slinging curly fries. Oh, did we hurt someone's feelings? Corey Comperatore not available for comment.Posted by: Cheri at July 18, 2024 05:38 PM (oiNtH)
210 25 years ago SFFD hired a 4’10” Asian female that couldn’t lift a 32’ type III extension ladder. And here we are …
Posted by: 13times at July 18, 2024 05:34 PM (2iT5l)
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Madness. A buddy of mine was a Berkeley cop. The les...feminists were bitching that the physical tests - such as climbing over a 6' fence - were too hard, discriminated against them, and were irrelevant anyway.
I asked my buddy about this. "Do you guys often have to climb over 6' fences?"
"Yeah, all the time. Criminals are not well-bred enough to run right down the street so we can drive up behind them. They go cross-country over fences and through yards, pretty much every time."Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 18, 2024 05:38 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 18, 2024 05:38 PM (c9Bew)
212 192 I like the gray scheme, Ace. I also have dry eye, sometimes making the burning feeling incapacitating.
Neutral background colors rather than white on the screen helps alleviate this a bit for me.
Posted by: Gref at July 18, 2024
I like the grey too. Especially when I'm tired.Posted by: CaliGirl at July 18, 2024 05:38 PM (uHd5d)
213 My main point is, that the fact that there were short girls protecting Trump had NOTHING to do with the fact that an obviously important roof was left unguarded, and the would-be assassin wasn't dispatched until after he already fired.
There was a seemingly INTENTIONAL lapse in security, and to bitch about DEI is to take your eye off the ball in favor of a favorite (perfectly legitimate) peeve that's easier to pursue.Posted by: MrExcitement at July 18, 2024 05:38 PM (hOOi9)
214 Malice or incompetence. One carries jail time.Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2024 05:38 PM (D7oie)
215 70 I Meme Therefore I Am @ImMeme0
The man is TROLLING of the Secret Service! 🤣🤣🤣
https://tinyurl.com/4rt2azmk
28 seconds
Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 18, 2024 05:19 PM (wse2C)
That guy's gonna get a visit from ... the FBI? Some guys in black.Posted by: m at July 18, 2024 05:38 PM (64Zez)
216 161 One reliable sign that everything is 100% on the up and up is days, weeks or months of stonewalling.
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Sure we'll let Congress do their Constitutional oversight duties. But only four questions, any more would be inconvenient and distract us from our duties to protect the candidates.Posted by: USSS / DHS at July 18, 2024 05:38 PM (Taas0)
217 Federal judge says 7 year olds don't have first amendment rights.
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 18, 2024 05:18 PM (c9Bew)
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That was the position my Mom took.Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 18, 2024 05:39 PM (wzAuc)
218 Be kind. I agree with you there's no possibility this wasn't intentional (at least at the level of whoever had command Saturday and above that person), but I think it's pretty understandable most people are resistant to that because of the scope of the implications.
its not like it hasn't happened before!
sigh.Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 18, 2024 05:39 PM (s3qiR)
219 Be kind. I agree with you there's no possibility this wasn't intentional (at least at the level of whoever had command Saturday and above that person), but I think it's pretty understandable most people are resistant to that because of the scope of the implications.
Posted by: Methos at July 18, 2024 05:36 PM (Dnobf)
These people have been doing this stuff for decades, that's part of the op. You won't believe what we're doing, because what we're doing is so outrageous, so evil, you won't believe it. You can't believe it. And the more outrageous, the more you doubt your own suspicions.Posted by: BurtTC at July 18, 2024 05:39 PM (rwHae)
220 But I could scope out a scene and tell someone their butt needs to be on that roof with a cooling jacket.
Posted by: Moron Robbie won't say I told you so about the tranny at July 18, 2024 05:37 PM (NT6Qv)
You just need a 20 dollar area rug an slap it down.Posted by: Oldcat at July 18, 2024 05:39 PM (eoQWY)
221 Secret Service hires 4000 new Hispanic agents
- MSM tomorrowPosted by: Moron Robbie won't say I told you so about the tranny at July 18, 2024 05:39 PM (NT6Qv)
222 Posted by: sven at July 18, 2024 05:36 PM (X0I7i)
I'm a lunatic but If Xi really had a stroke that doesn't help me stay in the lower numbers.Posted by: ... at July 18, 2024 05:39 PM (lX8VI)
223 196 Bob Menendez denies reports he will quit Senate after bribery conviction
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Well, what's the Senate for anyway?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at July 18, 2024 05:36 PM (L/fGl)
And he is still running as an independent. I'd love to see NJ race polls for that Senate seat...Posted by: Nova Local at July 18, 2024 05:39 PM (exHjb)
224 Are the people behind the "worried about rhetoric against female agents" the same ones who always worry about anti-Muslim backlash after some Muslim group commits a heinous crime against humanity?Posted by: red speck at July 18, 2024 05:39 PM (0Id0S)
225 Leeds is burning! Police beg residents to stay at home whilst they battle to disperse crowds of rioters who have turned over cop cars, intimated officers and set fire to a double decker bus
https://mol.im/a/13648949Posted by: Ciampino - Thur Update #18 at July 18, 2024 05:39 PM (qfLjt)
Posted by: TX Gov Abbot at July 18, 2024 05:39 PM (Dnobf)
227 The Secret Service should start hiring agents with one leg longer than the other to cope with sloping rooftops.Posted by: Justin Credible at July 18, 2024 05:39 PM (sAMJ6)
228 Sandwich Team Six needs to stay in the kitchen.Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 18, 2024 05:39 PM (Aoykm)
229 205
That's the problem too, though.
Why should the women get those types of easy jobs, especially without the experience of having to do the difficult ones?
Posted by: Moron Robbie won't say I told you so about the tranny at July 18, 2024 05:37 PM (NT6Qv)
Because all jobs are important and there are biological differences.Posted by: Piper at July 18, 2024 05:39 PM (pZEOD)
230 Why are there no paraplegic Secret Service agents?
Haters
Posted by: Minuteman
Eileen and Bob, reporting for duty!
Posted by: Just the punchline
We need agents to cover that window! Someone get Curt 'n Rod over there!Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2024 05:40 PM (DgGvY)
231 Federal judge says 7 year olds don't have first amendment rights.
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 18, 2024 05:18 PM (c9Bew)
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That was the position my Mom took.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 18, 2024 05:39 PM (wzAuc)
Defendant is remanded to his room with the television and tablet off.Posted by: Oldcat at July 18, 2024 05:40 PM (eoQWY)
232 Door #4
"Hey Merrick tell Wray to have agents in the Pittsburgh office cultivate that kid the people from Blackrock used in that commercial to make him a patsy, we have plans for the GOP convention."
I cannot allow myself easily to go to door #4.
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this is about where I am, except it's DOKTOR Jill to Cheatle, over a box of wine.Posted by: screaming in digital at July 18, 2024 05:40 PM (iZbyp)
233 Good news, sounds like Joe is digging in
https://instapundit.com/661486/
Posted by: steevy at July 18, 2024 05:38 PM (HJ9BW)
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He should dig in! The world isn't ready for President BJ HarrisPosted by: Huck Follywood at July 18, 2024 05:40 PM (WOWGa)
234 You're appalled that someone might criticize your stronk empowered wymyns? Well guess what .... I'M APPALLED THAT MY PRESIDENT WAS SHOT AND COULD HAVE BEEN KILLED BECAUSE OF YOUR FUCKING INCOMPETENCE MOTHERFUCKER!Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 18, 2024 05:40 PM (4XwPj)
235 There was a seemingly INTENTIONAL lapse in security, and to bitch about DEI is to take your eye off the ball in favor of a favorite (perfectly legitimate) peeve that's easier to pursue.
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 18, 2024 05:38 PM (hOOi9)
Or... you can do both. One does not exclude the other.Posted by: BurtTC at July 18, 2024 05:40 PM (Y5VxC)
236 Back in the day, when I was working, my pay and promotions were based solely on my competence.
Yeah. White privilege.Posted by: No one of any consequence at July 18, 2024 05:40 PM (+H2BX)
237 Another thing no one mentions
That looks like a 1/12 roof.
You know what else has a 1/12 slope? A wheelchair ramp.Posted by: PFC Obvious at July 18, 2024 05:40 PM (ikAZq)
238 Hey, been gone for a bit. Do I hear lamentations in the distance. Too early? Anyway howdy morons.Posted by: Usnkim deplorable me. at July 18, 2024 05:40 PM (oEvI1)
239 48 Photo of the whole crew at Butler needed, vs. the Pittsburgh crew for President Jill Biden.
Need height markers on the wall so we can see heights.
Also (no names needed), years and months SS service, for each agent.
Bet that on average, Trump got the minor league.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 18, 2024 05:17 PM (ixuGr)
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All the snipers were men. They got beat by a 20 yo kid. Square that. Either they didn’t see him, which means they are failures or they did see him and let him put his eye to the sight and start shooting, which means they are failures.
I guess you could say they were told to let him shoot first which means they are moral failures.
Not saying the women weren’t a problem but there were failures all around.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 18, 2024 05:40 PM (2fIO4)
240
"SS/XY, The Series"
Tough but vulnerable wymyns capable of kicking the shit out of potential assassins face white patriarchal stochastic violence mongers dedicated to, like killing thier buzz.
"Whatta ya think, sirs?"
"You'll need to lose the XY bit, transphobe."Posted by: Auspex at July 18, 2024 05:40 PM (j4U/Z)
241 Cool! Forty-eight shades to go.Posted by: creeper at July 18, 2024 05:40 PM (M6moH)
242 Anthony Guglielmi, the Secret Service's chief of communication, said in the statement: "We stand united against any attempt to discredit our personnel and their invaluable contributions to our mission and are appalled by the disparaging and disgusting comments against any of our personnel."
"As an elite law enforcement agency, all of our agents and officers are highly trained and fully capable of performing our missions," he said.
"It is an insult to the women of our agency to imply that they are unqualified based on gender. Such baseless assertions undermine the professionalism, dedication and expertise of our workforce," he added.
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You hire a guy to watch your wife with another guy you hired, don't you Tony?Posted by: Azathoth at July 18, 2024 05:40 PM (wb1YC)
243 213 My main point is, that the fact that there were short girls protecting Trump had NOTHING to do with the fact that an obviously important roof was left unguarded, and the would-be assassin wasn't dispatched until after he already fired.
There was a seemingly INTENTIONAL lapse in security, and to bitch about DEI is to take your eye off the ball in favor of a favorite (perfectly legitimate) peeve that's easier to pursue.
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 18, 2024 05:38 PM (hOOi9)
EXACTLY. And this was set up this way on purpose b/c they knew we'd do it.Posted by: Nova Local at July 18, 2024 05:40 PM (exHjb)
244 Be kind. I agree with you there's no possibility this wasn't intentional (at least at the level of whoever had command Saturday and above that person), but I think it's pretty understandable most people are resistant to that because of the scope of the implications.
Posted by: Methos at July 18, 2024 05:36 PM (Dnobf)
Well I'm not looking to insult anyone as such. I don't do blanket insults - I like to do them individually. I was just making a creative point.Posted by: ... at July 18, 2024 05:41 PM (lX8VI)
245 Well it sure as hell isn't my fault that I don't believe anything the gummint tells me.Posted by: Weasel at July 18, 2024 05:41 PM (JwHpX)
246 The consensus here seems to be that last Saturday was a deliberate effort, with many players acting in concert, to cause Trump to be murdered.
We are not even a week removed from that event, and there is so much we don't know. I believe some of the things we're being told are simply various officials covering their butts.
Personally I believe the shooting was the result of a failure cascade, where discrete groups of people all performed poorly, each failure acting as a force multiplier on the next, resulting in a guy being able to climb a roof and get a shot off at a former POTUS.
Of course, I will amend my opinion if I see solid eveidence to the contrary.
FWIW IMHO YMMVPosted by: Don Black at July 18, 2024 05:41 PM (/7KEl)
247 I see a video out of England where some scrawny drugged out of his mind guy was getting arrested by a couple of pudgy female cops.
He appeared to not realize they were trying to arrest him at first but as they started to handcuff him you could see the lightbulb go over his head. He pushed one then the other away and they both stumbled.
Then he looked left and right and slowly started jogging away. Both cop-ettes started fast walking after him, I'm guessing their max speed, and watched him just...get away.Posted by: 18-1 at July 18, 2024 05:41 PM (oZhjI)
Posted by: mpfs at July 18, 2024 05:41 PM (c4NPH)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 18, 2024 05:41 PM (YRsIm)
250 222 Posted by: ... at July 18, 2024 05:39 PM (lX8VI)
God has a sense of humor, it would be hilarious if Xi, Bai-Dan, and Joey Plugz were all gone in the next week.Posted by: sven at July 18, 2024 05:42 PM (X0I7i)
251 Hmmm…. I like women. A lot… but some roles roles are much more suited to men. Does that make me a bad man?Posted by: tubal at July 18, 2024 05:42 PM (PCK5/)
252 226 Why are there no paraplegic Secret Service agents?
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IKR?
Posted by: TX Gov Abbot
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Well we tried. We had to install wheelchair ramps all around the building, but then none of the other agents could get in!
(cost us $10B to rip them out again.)Posted by: Cheatle at July 18, 2024 05:42 PM (ikAZq)
Posted by: Ernst Stavro Biden at July 18, 2024 05:42 PM (qUkBO)
254 Remember the Revolutionary Nuns? They were called Amazons for a reason.
But the way, it is my professional opinion you can understand and deal with biological differences without being misogynistic. Different doesn’t mean better or worse. There are different skillsets and both should be used effectively.Posted by: Piper at July 18, 2024 05:42 PM (pZEOD)
255 He should dig in! The world isn't ready for President BJ Harris
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 18, 2024 05:40 PM (WOWGa)
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He stole the election in 2020 fair and square, and rigged the 2024 primary fair and square too.Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 18, 2024 05:42 PM (2fIO4)
256 Why are there no paraplegic Secret Service agents?
Haters
Posted by: Minuteman
Eileen and Bob, reporting for duty!
Posted by: Just the punchline
We need agents to cover that window! Someone get Curt 'n Rod over there!
Posted by: mikeski at July 18, 2024 05:40 PM (DgGvY)
There was a story when a (or several) railroads had a baseball game between employees who had lost an arm versus those who had lost a leg (called the Hoppers). The one armed team won pretty easily but I imagine that they had a good time.
These days we'd all be sensitive and not have a party with free food and beer.Posted by: Oldcat at July 18, 2024 05:42 PM (eoQWY)
257 Bob Newhart has died. Cause of death: being 94.Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 18, 2024 05:43 PM (U7wke)
258 Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 18, 2024 05:40 PM (4XwPj)
As usual you said it better than mePosted by: ... at July 18, 2024 05:43 PM (lX8VI)
259 25 years ago SFFD hired a 4’10” Asian female that couldn’t lift a 32’ type III extension ladder. And here we are …
Posted by: 13times at July 18, 2024 05:34 PM (2iT5l)
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My wife and I did an experiment re fireman requirements. I just laid on the floor, limp, and she tried to move me (simulating rescuing a fire victim). She dragged me a few feet, but that was about it. Forget about picking me up and carrying me.
I'm not that big (180 lbs.); lots of guys are heavier than that. I guess if there's a fire, they're done.
You'd think that, speaking of discrimination, those guys are being deprived of the effective services of the fire department.Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 18, 2024 05:43 PM (YqDXo)
260 Personally I believe the shooting was the result of a failure cascade, where discrete groups of people all performed poorly, each failure acting as a force multiplier on the next, resulting in a guy being able to climb a roof and get a shot off at a former POTUS.
Let's considerate that. Let's suppose it is all just incompetence.
So the FIRST time an antifa assassin tries them he gets all the way through to shooting? We don't have say...the local cops nabbing someone at one rally, and then the feds arresting someone at another before someone gets through?
Sorry...don't believe it. This was intentionally staffed to leave an opening.Posted by: 18-1 at July 18, 2024 05:43 PM (oZhjI)
261 Back from the Seattle Art Museum. We had a four hour break in the middle of the day, so our chief surgeon took us out and then to lunch.
Team building.
And, ace, the grey is so much easier o. The eyeballs. Thank you.Posted by: nurse ratched at July 18, 2024 05:43 PM (5mQt6)
262 The man is TROLLING of the Secret Service! 🤣🤣🤣
https://tinyurl.com/4rt2azmk
28 seconds
Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 18, 2024 05:19 PM (wse2C)
That guy's gonna get a visit from ... the FBI? Some guys in black.
Posted by: m at July 18, 2024 05:38 PM (64Zez)
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He can be cellmates with the guy Garland imprisoned for meme-trolling Hillzabub.Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 18, 2024 05:43 PM (WOWGa)
263 A once and possibly future president nearly got killed and someone did die, while two people were seriously wound, and the USSS is worried about hurt feelings?
I'd like to ask them if they think the people still in the hospital would trade places with them..
I believe the wife of Corey Comperatore would probably prefer they trade places with him.Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 18, 2024 05:43 PM (tT6L1)
264 246 Posted by: Don Black at July 18, 2024 05:41 PM (/7KEl)
The USSS non-answers and DHS playing fuck fuck with Congressional oversight has me on the sliding scale.
Merry Garland telling Cheatley to STFU on details makes me speed up on the descent.Posted by: sven at July 18, 2024 05:43 PM (X0I7i)
265 The ADA requires an employer make reasonable accommodations to enable a worker to do their job. Therefore, Presidential candidates will be limited to 5' 2" in height.Posted by: Count de Monet at July 18, 2024 05:43 PM (Aqu9a)
266 Leeds is I think like 70% muslimPosted by: steevy at July 18, 2024 05:43 PM (HJ9BW)
267 Trump needs house carls as his guards . Big Vikings who tower over Trump , all armed with battleaxes and lasersPosted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2024 05:44 PM (Zf6jY)
268 All the snipers were men. They got beat by a 20 yo kid. Square that. Either they didn’t see him, which means they are failures or they did see him and let him put his eye to the sight and start shooting, which means they are failures.
I guess you could say they were told to let him shoot first which means they are moral failures.
Not saying the women weren’t a problem but there were failures all around.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 18, 2024 05:40 PM (2fIO4)
EXACTLY. And someone should be looking into ALL the men on the sniper team and finding out what the hell...b/c none of them, when there was no pressure, showed any motivation or will to do their job, even when it was handed to them by the crowd and local law enforcement.Posted by: Nova Local at July 18, 2024 05:44 PM (exHjb)
269 Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 18, 2024 05:43 PM (U7wke)
Bob didn’t try to go on the roof did he? That’s dangerous from what I hear.Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 18, 2024 05:44 PM (Aoykm)
270 188 Leeds, England is burning. Muzzies rioting. Live feed:
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The UK government has just raised the Terrorism Threat Level to "Blimey".Posted by: Azathoth at July 18, 2024 05:44 PM (wb1YC)
271 the problem too, though.
Why should the women get those types of easy jobs, especially without the experience of having to do the difficult ones?
Posted by: Moron Robbie won't say I told you so about the tranny at July 18, 2024 05:37 PM (NT6Qv)
Because all jobs are important and there are biological differences.
Posted by: Piper
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Yes, that's my point. Why should a woman be in the air conditioned important job telling the men who do the difficult jobs to climb the metal roofs rather than men that have done the difficult jobs and know what it's like to climb the metal roofs and do the rest of the actual job?Posted by: Moron Robbie won't say I told you so about the tranny at July 18, 2024 05:44 PM (NT6Qv)
272 I've been to reddit and zero hedge comments this morning.
Man the conspiracy theories are lit!
This is a lot of fun.Posted by: PFC Obvious at July 18, 2024 05:44 PM (ikAZq)
273 https://tinyurl.com/4rt2azmk
28 seconds
Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 18, 2024 05:19 PM (wse2C)
That guy's gonna get a visit from ... the FBI? Some guys in black.
Posted by: m at July 18, 2024 05:38 PM (64Zez)
What I'm waiting for is the report to come out that the SS put the ladder there themselves, to check out the roof, decide it wasn't threat location, and walk away without removing the ladder.
Shootie McShooter then shows up and sez "hey, that ladder there gives me an idea..."Posted by: BurtTC at July 18, 2024 05:44 PM (SOK15)
274 Best thing about Rehoboth in the summertime is all the places to get ice cream. And young girls to sniff. Wait, that's two things. Anyway.....Posted by: Top Man at July 18, 2024 05:45 PM (V5BDR)
275 My main point is, that the fact that there were short girls protecting Trump had NOTHING to do with the fact that an obviously important roof was left unguarded, and the would-be assassin wasn't dispatched until after he already fired.
There was a seemingly INTENTIONAL lapse in security, and to bitch about DEI is to take your eye off the ball in favor of a favorite (perfectly legitimate) peeve that's easier to pursue.
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 18, 2024 05:38 PM
This was like when my air wing was changing planes out from the old A-7's to the brand new F/A 18's and VFA 151 had just received two brand new off the factory floor planes and promptly crashed them into each other totally destroying them in the process the next day.
Cover up after cover up that lasted for months. The JAG investigation finally determined that the crash was caused as a result of loss of situational awareness. The truth never came out that both pilots were playing Top Gun in the cockpits and screwing around. $60 million loss of two aircraft and not a single person was held responsible.Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 18, 2024 05:45 PM (QNSds)
276 I dunno, I think the agent looks like Shane Gillis in drag.Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 18, 2024 05:45 PM (YIxO9)
277 Bob Menendez denies reports he will quit Senate after bribery conviction
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If he leaves the Senate, the corruption average of the remaining Senators will.... let's see .... *taps buttons on calculator*.... well, what do ya know, it remains the same!Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 18, 2024 05:45 PM (Taas0)
278
But the way, it is my professional opinion you can understand and deal with biological differences without being misogynistic. Different doesn’t mean better or worse. There are different skillsets and both should be used effectively.
The left has *defined* that as misogyny.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 18, 2024 05:45 PM (oZhjI)
279
Sally Struthers is 5'1 and she guards a cheesecake effectively.Posted by: Frank Barone at July 18, 2024 05:45 PM (+oR7L)
280 Dropping like flies
@Freedom4USNow
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RIP: Political Commentator, Journalist, and Author Lou Dobbs Dead at 78 – TwitchyPosted by: weft cut-loop at July 18, 2024 05:45 PM (IG4Id)
Posted by: Men and Women Aren't Interchangeable at July 18, 2024 05:46 PM (8Ttux)
282 This was intentionally staffed to leave an opening.
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It all gets distilled down to this
And the possibility the FBI intentionally radicalized the shooterPosted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at July 18, 2024 05:46 PM (DBZuM)
283 The Secret Service needs a name change. For some reason, my mind goes to a different SS when I see it abbreviated.
Perhaps they should become the Not So Secret Service (NSSS)? Protective Service (PS)? Cheatle's Cheetos?Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 18, 2024 05:46 PM (VNX3d)
284 >>> 187
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Step three is adminsitration offficials overtly and tacitly told the USSS, DHS et al to play games with Trump and Kennedy's protection because "our guy is the only one that matters." Still shitty but not as shitty as...
Door #4
"Hey Merrick tell Wray to have agents in the Pittsburgh office cultivate that kid the people from Blackrock used in that commercial to make him a patsy, we have plans for the GOP convention."
I cannot allow myself easily to go to door #4.
Posted by: sven at July 18, 2024 05:36 PM (X0I7i)
What level is this?
(Ignoring the Whoops! Whoopsie!! USSS for now)
Blackrock commercial was one of many ongoing uh, job fairs. Recruits are taught new and exciting skills. Assignments, other than the generic riot or two, are given out if or when opportunities arise.Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 18, 2024 05:46 PM (VavZF)
Posted by: BurtTC at July 18, 2024 05:46 PM (SOK15)
286 Remember the Revolutionary Nuns? They were called Amazons for a reason.
But the way, it is my professional opinion you can understand and deal with biological differences without being misogynistic. Different doesn’t mean better or worse. There are different skillsets and both should be used effectively.
Posted by: Piper at July 18, 2024 05:42 PM (pZEOD)
Absolutely.
We need a crack sammich squad making refreshments.
JOKE JOKE />
But seriously, the people doing this are setting up these women to fail, and fail in situations where there could be real psychological and/or physical damage. The men are trained, and if they look unable will be sent off to other jobs. The women are shielded from that and thus are thown into real situations without preparation.Posted by: Oldcat at July 18, 2024 05:47 PM (eoQWY)
287 190 182 How do you create female SS Agents?
Posted by: As Good as it Gets at July 18, 2024 05:35 PM (QAK8m)
When a mommy and a daddy SS Agent love each other very much ...
Posted by: m at July 18, 2024 05:36 PM (64Zez)
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H8er you are assuming gender roles. Two mommies are just as good.Posted by: Ciampino - Thur Update #19 at July 18, 2024 05:47 PM (qfLjt)
288 My main point is, that the fact that there were short girls protecting Trump
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5'5" girls protecting a what, 6'2" man? So his head is exposed, which of course is exactly what the shooter was aiming for.
Genius.Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 18, 2024 05:47 PM (YqDXo)
289 Anthony Guglielmi, the Secret Service's chief of communication, said in the statement: "We stand united against any attempt to discredit our personnel and their invaluable contributions to our mission and are appalled by the disparaging and disgusting comments against any of our personnel."
"As an elite law enforcement agency, all of our agents and officers are highly trained and fully capable of performing our missions," he said.
"It is an insult to the women of our agency to imply that they are unqualified based on gender. Such baseless assertions undermine the professionalism, dedication and expertise of our workforce," he added.
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
-- William ShakespearePosted by: Tonypete at July 18, 2024 05:47 PM (WXNFJ)
290 A lot of confusion regarding appropriate roles of the sexes has been brought about by TV series’… especially the fantasy police procedural shows and military type series.Posted by: tubal at July 18, 2024 05:47 PM (PCK5/)
291 >Interpol 2023 Theme: Women in policing
The first UN International Day of Police Cooperation embraces gender diversity.
Emphasizing the link between gender diversity and an inclusive workplace, the theme for the inaugural UN International Day of Police Cooperation in 2023 is ‘Women in Policing.’
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>National Institute Of Justice Special Report Women In Policing: Breaking Barriers and Blazing a Path - July 2019 ---National Institute of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, U. S.
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Georgetown Institute for Women, Peace and Security
Hiring and Retaining More Women: The Advantage to Law Enforcement Agencies
Authored by: Kim Lonsway, Margaret Moore, Penny Harrington, et al.
Categories: Conflict Prevention
Sub-Categories: Security Sector Reform (SSR)
Region: No Region
Year: 2003
Citation: Lonsway, Kim, Margaret Moore, Penny Harrington, et al. Hiring and Retaining More Women: The Advantages to Law Enforcement Agencies. Beverly Hills, CA: National Center for Women & Policing, 2003.
Pushing a quarter of a century.Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at July 18, 2024 05:47 PM (NFX2v)
292 >>> 206
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So who did you fire, since that lost you a crap load of money....should be willing to give out that information.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 18, 2024 05:38 PM (eoQWY)
For confidentiality reasons we can only tell you it was an employee in the Cincinnati office.Posted by: Austin Private Wealth at July 18, 2024 05:48 PM (VavZF)
293 We were at a Trump rally in Greeley CO about a week before the 2016 election.
Waiting for the speakers, I recall the SS agents standing in front of the stage eyeballing the crowd, one a woman, maybe 45 maybe 50, eyes like a hawk as she looked at faces and hands of everybody she could see.
You could see her gun plainly. The woman was maybe 5'-8" and looked fit. But Trump is what, 6'-3"? This woman was trained, no doubt, but was no bruiser.
We know a couple, both retired SS, he was Canada-based and in charge of all doings there, she was Rodham's detail, both of these SSers are about 5'7".Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 18, 2024 05:48 PM (ixuGr)
Posted by: mpfs at July 18, 2024 05:48 PM (c4NPH)
295 Yes, that's my point. Why should a woman be in the air conditioned important job telling the men who do the difficult jobs to climb the metal roofs rather than men that have done the difficult jobs and know what it's like to climb the metal roofs and do the rest of the actual job?
Posted by: Moron Robbie won't say I told you so about the tranny at July 18, 2024 05:44 PM (NT6Qv)
Same reason it's totally discriminatory for women to not be equally represented in six-figure office jobs but not in road and constructions crews: Equality!Posted by: Men and Women Aren't Interchangeable at July 18, 2024 05:48 PM (8Ttux)
296 278
But the way, it is my professional opinion you can understand and deal with biological differences without being misogynistic. Different doesn’t mean better or worse. There are different skillsets and both should be used effectively.
The left has *defined* that as misogyny.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 18, 2024
I know, and that is ridiculous. It makes it hard to point out real misogyny and not sound whiney. The left is great at this. We shouldn’t fall for it, sloped roof or not.Posted by: Piper at July 18, 2024 05:48 PM (pZEOD)
297 Lou Dobbs is Mort too.Posted by: Minnfidel at July 18, 2024 05:48 PM (ewjUl)
298 Addendum
Especially if a job doesn't even need a person in the $100k/year with full benefits position.
“hey, there's a roof. One of us should be on it. "
There. I saved $100k and the president’s life.Posted by: Moron Robbie won't say I told you so about the tranny at July 18, 2024 05:48 PM (Em8sU)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 18, 2024 05:48 PM (evvc2)
300 Women have been working for the secret service for years
Notice how the shit hit the fan only after DEI became a thingPosted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at July 18, 2024 05:48 PM (DBZuM)
301 227 The Secret Service should start hiring agents with one leg longer than the other to cope with sloping rooftops.
Posted by: Justin Credible at July 18, 2024 05:39 PM (sAMJ6)
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2 per roof, facing opposite directions.Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 18, 2024 05:48 PM (wzAuc)
302 My takeaway..... Either the uses is incompetent and criminally negligent. Or it was a planned option by someone somewhere in the Biden administration. No other possible conclusions.Posted by: Usnkim deplorable me. at July 18, 2024 05:48 PM (oEvI1)
303 Bob didn’t try to go on the roof did he? That’s dangerous from what I hear.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 18, 2024 05:44 PM (Aoykm)
He was actually battling the 2nd gunman on the water tower.Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 18, 2024 05:49 PM (U7wke)
304 And the possibility the FBI intentionally radicalized the shooter
Were the people running the Whitmer kidnapping plot DHS or FBI?
I assume the SS side of the house intentionally left an opening while the FBI/DHS side stirred their "known wolves" into action.
If Crooks's coms were released you'd find a message from his very own "Armand" asking if Crooks was really going to let Trump come to HIS area and engage in racism and extremism and nudge nudge someone should really do something about him right?Posted by: 18-1 at July 18, 2024 05:49 PM (oZhjI)
305 In case the boss hasn't heard, the wife of Max Boot has been charged with espionage.
Story is at mediaite.Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 18, 2024 05:49 PM (MeG8a)
306 284 Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 18, 2024 05:46 PM (VavZF)
The kid could have a wallet full of Blackrock bought gift cards with an Antifa membership carboard level amulet and we will NEVER be allowed to know it.
I find it interesting that an IC that turned 1 fact "Trump was in Russia on date x" into the Pee Pee Dossier cannot use abductive reason and network map the kid.
In a sane world that would be an indicator, you have a sane world mine is broken?Posted by: sven at July 18, 2024 05:49 PM (X0I7i)
307 I just realized the USSS is playing the gender card in the hopes screaming misogyny at the people calling at their DEI hiring practices will somehow blunt the criticism.Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 18, 2024 05:49 PM (tT6L1)
308 OMG, those female SS agents looked like a clowncar at a rodeo.Posted by: Lizzy at July 18, 2024 05:49 PM (+oRno)
309 Leeds, England is burning. Muzzies rioting.
New Labour government insufficiently communist for them?Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 18, 2024 05:49 PM (U7wke)
310 Bob Newhart has died. Cause of death: being 94.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
Cause of death: sub optimal heartbeat.Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 18, 2024 05:49 PM (c9Bew)
311 Cheatle's Circus is apt.Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 18, 2024 05:49 PM (ixuGr)
312 174 NYTimes is reporting that Biden has accepted that he has to leave. Might just be a false report to try and push him, but this is now two outlets. Not enough popcorn
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 18, 2024 05:34 PM (Zf6jY)
If I'm a Dem Top Dog: We MUST knock positive Trump stuff out of the news cycle for at least a week beginning NLT Monday. So that we can at least stop dropping in polls and hopefully go up some. We have to get positive Dem spin wall-to-wall in the Media before, not during, the Convention. Political news will take second-seat to Olympics news for two weeks after our Convention, losing us two weeks of possible BIG anti-Trump news cycles. We MUST get Joe out of the news cycle, ASAP.Posted by: Gref at July 18, 2024 05:50 PM (5fDan)
313 The men are trained, and if they look unable will be sent off to other jobs. The women are shielded from that and thus are thrown into real situations without preparation.
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This is the fundamental problem with DEI: once someone is es-consed in a DEI position, they're immune to criticism or even evaluation on the outside chance it might be adverse.
No matter how poorly they perform, or how unqualified they actually are, the people in charge have to act like they're doing great. Fire them? See ya in court.Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 18, 2024 05:50 PM (YqDXo)
314 Cat on a Hot Tin Roof>DEI on no roof.Posted by: Minnfidel at July 18, 2024 05:50 PM (ewjUl)
315 "Trump Is Target of Assassination Attempt -- Women and Minorities Hardest Hit"Posted by: Socratease at July 18, 2024 05:50 PM (t8Egx)
316 At this point, if Mayorkas hasn't fired this incompetent DEI hire, the only logical conclusion that can be drawn is he is glad Trump was shot.Posted by: Wally at July 18, 2024 05:50 PM (9Uj9K)
317 Anthony Guglielmi, the Secret Service's chief of communication, said in the statement: "We...
"It is an insult to the women of our agency to imply that they are unqualified based on gender. Such baseless assertions undermine the professionalism, dedication and expertise of our workforce," he added.
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The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
-- William Shakespeare
Posted by: Tonypete at July 18, 2024 05:47 PM (WXNFJ)
No, you stupid gay homosexual, we think she's unqualified, based on the fact she's a small weak girl. If you find some big girls who are as strong as the men, go for it.Posted by: BurtTC at July 18, 2024 05:50 PM (SOK15)
318 I just had a thought. What if this was actually a set up meant to tell the entire world that Trump is vulnerable and the SS are buffoons that can't (or won't) protect him.Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 18, 2024 05:51 PM (QNSds)
319
It looks like a Frazetta painting of Bran Mak Morn ready to punch out some Picts.
Posted by: gKWVE
Well, that's surprisingly random and obscure!Posted by: Soothsayer at July 18, 2024 05:51 PM (NrlFJ)
320 What is the incentive to not have a "failure" in Trump's security, based on what happened with the "failures" of the covid lab, the "failures" of the vaccine, the "failures" of the Russia hoax, the "failures" of January 6, and the "failures" of the election count?
What have the consequences been for any of those? Who among the guilty has been made to suffer or been punished? Are these people all essentially from same population of "failure" perpetrators?
Answer these questions honestly to yourself and you will have the painful answer about Butler.Posted by: ... at July 18, 2024 05:51 PM (lX8VI)
321 Posted by: sven at July 18, 2024 05:49 PM (X0I7i)
*scribbles notes furiously*
Thanks. Now we can run a counter narrative to this.Posted by: Bob from NSA at July 18, 2024 05:51 PM (Aoykm)
322 268 All the snipers were men. They got beat by a 20 yo kid. Square that. Either they didn’t see him, ...
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They could not see him until his head was over the ridge, which was fairly high.
When they did see him (this was reported but I am not certain) they could not know if it was local PD, or the guy they needed to kill. They had to rely on other eyes to know the situation, and that was the failure.
I also think that whole section was outside the sniper's area of concern. It was a group of buildings mostly hidden from their positions by trees and a harvester. It was outside the fence, and had lots of locals where they did not know who was who. I also think the near team could not really see what was going on and the far team are the ones who engaged.
Posted by: PFC Obvious at July 18, 2024 05:51 PM (ikAZq)
323 The chubby one looks like Melissa McCarthy, who I think played a bumbling SS agent or something like that in one of her awful movies. Art does imitate life…Posted by: Ann in France at July 18, 2024 05:51 PM (zKrGf)
324 In case the boss hasn't heard, the wife of Max Boot has been charged with espionage.
Story is at mediaite.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 18, 2024 05:49 PM (MeG8a)
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Now ring up Boot himself and his stupid hat.Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 18, 2024 05:52 PM (YqDXo)
325
lulz, remember how many times Democrats told Fake News that Diane Feinstein was retiring?
And her staff was, like, no were not.
Same thing for Menendez.Posted by: Soothsayer at July 18, 2024 05:52 PM (NrlFJ)
326 All the snipers were men. They got beat by a 20 yo kid. Square that.
Fucked up rules of engagement wouldn't allow the counter snipers to shoot first.Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 18, 2024 05:52 PM (c9Bew)
327 I met a female ss agent once, she was tall, fit and had perfect eyesight, and also looked like a woman
Now we have these police academy style midget butch lard slobsPosted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at July 18, 2024 05:52 PM (DBZuM)
328 >>My takeaway..... Either the uses is incompetent and criminally negligent. Or it was a planned option by someone somewhere in the Biden administration. No other possible conclusions.
Look at how they've behaved since the attack.
Hiding. Not giving daily press conferences with updates on the investigation. Think of every terror attack and compare the authorities' behavior vs. what's happening here. They are acting guilty, IMO.Posted by: Lizzy at July 18, 2024 05:52 PM (+oRno)
329 I just had a thought. What if this was actually a set up meant to tell the entire world that Trump is vulnerable and the SS are buffoons that can't (or won't) protect him.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 18, 2024 05:51 PM (QNSds)
They wanted "it" done and that itself would have been the message.Posted by: ... at July 18, 2024 05:52 PM (lX8VI)
330 This reminds me of a session on the Whatever podcast. The host asked his feminists guests if woman were as good at being soldiers as men and they all answered yes. Then he asked doesn't that mean they should be eligible for the draft as well and the answer from each was no.
He then asked why and the BEST answer was something to the effect of, there is no difference between women and men in how they can fight but men *like* to get drafted and go to war so women should be able to join but shouldn't be forced to...unlike men.
Now this is especially amusing because if this theory was correct you still wouldn't even need a draft as men would join up to go get shot at for the fun of it anyway...Posted by: 18-1 at July 18, 2024 05:52 PM (oZhjI)
331 Cover up after cover up that lasted for months. The JAG investigation finally determined that the crash was caused as a result of loss of situational awareness. The truth never came out that both pilots were playing Top Gun in the cockpits and screwing around. $60 million loss of two aircraft and not a single person was held responsible.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 18, 2024 05:45 PM (QNSds)
There is a story out of when the Soviets took Prague in the sixties for being too liberal, on the way out a dude was cleaning his gun with gas taken from a motorcycle gas tank. The tank was open, they were screwing about and a cigarette lit up the gas tank and the vehicle was destroyed.
An officer came by and told them to say that insurgents came and burned the vehicle and he had defended the machine, hitting one with the rifle. They sent it to HQ, and it kept coming back with requests to add more items to the equipment list - a trailer, some guns, the thing was a real war machine at the end.Posted by: Oldcat at July 18, 2024 05:53 PM (eoQWY)
332 The Secret Service needs a name change. For some reason, my mind goes to a different SS when I see it abbreviated.
Perhaps they should become the Not So Secret Service (NSSS)? Protective Service (PS)? Cheatle's Cheetos?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 18, 2024 05:46 PM (VNX3d)
Cheatle and the Cheatettes. They can open for Bang Bang Pow at the Sloped Roof.Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 18, 2024 05:53 PM (U7wke)
333 "Maybe she was in a squabble with her fellow agent Buffy.
Buffy think she cute. She know what she did."
LOL. Classic ace.Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 18, 2024 05:53 PM (dg+HA)
334 >>lulz, remember how many times Democrats told Fake News that Diane Feinstein was retiring?
And her staff was, like, no were not.
Same thing for Menendez.
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And Justice Breyer.Posted by: Lizzy at July 18, 2024 05:53 PM (+oRno)
335 Watching Biden prance around naked by the pool swinging his withered dick does not qualify you to be the director of the USSS.
Hazard pay, yes.
Director, no.Posted by: mpfs at July 18, 2024 05:53 PM (c4NPH)
336 Can you itchweasels please stop changing the subject all the time?
All Sikhs are illiterate savages who worship totem poles and practice human sacrifice. Let's just start from there.Posted by: Tom Perry at July 18, 2024 05:53 PM (MX0bI)
337 Lol. "Biden" just announced he is "forgiving" another $1.2B in student loans. What federal court?Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 18, 2024 05:53 PM (evvc2)
338 One of the things that slays me about this debacle is that one of the defenses by the Secret Service is that critics just don't like GirlBosses(tm). Rather than address real lack of proficiency or situational awareness (captured by various video clips), the Secret Cervix is just doubling-down on DEI.
The idiots in the White House apparently don't grasp that their flailing around for excuses actually reinforces the perception that Joe Biden (or Jill Biden) tried to have a political opponent assassinated.
When you have a Never-Trumper like Neil Cavuto speculate that this raises "disturbing" questions, you know that normies are looking at this and thinking "WTF is going on?"Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 18, 2024 05:53 PM (pJWtt)
339 When they did see him (this was reported but I am not certain) they could not know if it was local PD, or the guy they needed to kill. They had to rely on other eyes to know the situation, and that was the failure.
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I can see the problem. If they blow the guy away, and he turns out to be a cop, or some innocent rally attendee who just wanted a better look, there would be hell to pay.Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 18, 2024 05:53 PM (YqDXo)
340 I just had a thought. What if this was actually a set up meant to tell the entire world that Trump is vulnerable and the SS are buffoons that can't (or won't) protect him.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 18, 2024 05:51 PM (QNSds)
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See, I think the WEF told the Deep State to get rid of PDT and the Deep State showed the WEF they're incompetent to even do that....Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 18, 2024 05:54 PM (tT6L1)
341 This criticism is identical to what the shill media says to those who criticise DEIDisney.
Identical.Posted by: insurgens ad opus at July 18, 2024 05:54 PM (sQdWe)
342
Look at how they've behaved since the attack.
Yep if this was NOT the outcome Biden and co wanted they could have fired Cheatle and her closest minions and washed their hands of the whole mess.
The fact they haven't fired her means they approve.Posted by: 18-1 at July 18, 2024 05:54 PM (oZhjI)
343 At this point, if Mayorkas hasn't fired this incompetent DEI hire, the only logical conclusion that can be drawn is he is glad Trump was shot.
Posted by: Wally
He is glad regardless.Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 18, 2024 05:54 PM (c9Bew)
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 18, 2024 05:54 PM (NrlFJ)
345 One of the things that slays me about this debacle is that one of the defenses by the Secret Service is that critics just don't like GirlBosses(tm).
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Correct.Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 18, 2024 05:54 PM (YqDXo)
346 Chief Ironside did it right. He hired Mark Sanger to live with him and be his body-man-not Eve Whitfield. I'd have hired Eve, but me and the Chief are wired differently.Posted by: Totally Straight at July 18, 2024 05:54 PM (V5BDR)
347 326 All the snipers were men. They got beat by a 20 yo kid. Square that.
Fucked up rules of engagement wouldn't allow the counter snipers to shoot first.
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 18, 2024 05:52 PM (c9Bew)
Yeah, square that. Who could possibly ever put in a "you can allow the president to be shot 1st before shooting" rule and what USSS sniper agent would ever follow it? It's the EXACT OPPOSITE OF THE MAIN JOB DESCRIPTION OF THE SECRET SERVICE!
It's so much a lie, it's not funny...but they are trying to pull off that lie to keep scrutiny off the snipers and crowd team...Posted by: Nova Local at July 18, 2024 05:54 PM (exHjb)
348 316 At this point, if Mayorkas hasn't fired this incompetent DEI hire, the only logical conclusion that can be drawn is he is glad Trump was shot.
Posted by: Wally at July 18, 2024 05:50 PM (9Uj9K)
It's the obverse. They're angered that he wasn't killed. The fact he was shot but not killed is their big problem now. As for the DEI hire, her incompetence is meaningless to them. They don't value competence in any form except in character destruction.Posted by: Ordinary American at July 18, 2024 05:54 PM (GFoyL)
349 This was definitely an organized hit. What if this missed attempt had a second objective to signal to Rezident Retard that he needs to step aside. Haven't heard much from Skankles lately.Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 18, 2024 05:54 PM (YRsIm)
350 Such baseless assertions undermine the professionalism, dedication and expertise of our workforce -- Anthony Gonadjuggly
You just told everyone how to undermine their professionalism, dedication, and expertise. And that it's just that easy to do so.Posted by: in the best of hands at July 18, 2024 05:54 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2024 05:55 PM (D7oie)
352 An unscreened person in an unsecured location with a clear line of sight to the primary is a big Bozo No-No for the Secret Service. Heads are sure to roll over this.
Is anyone going to be held accountable? I mean if convict was knocked off, the Democratic Party’s easiest opponent to defeat in November would be dead.
They didn't do anything about it until after he he started shooting?! Very suspicious. 20 minutes and nothing done. Revamp the whole agency asap. They have to protect Joe and Kamala too.
The real question is...Did Trump know? If he did then something really stinks about it.
That's the real question. That and why didn't our sniper shoot him? Was our SS sniper hoping TSF would get killed for the good of the country so he allowed him a couple shots? Or was he hired by someone (TSF) to take a couple shots thinking such a scenario would help TSF's reelection chances.
It's beginning to look like Director Cheatle will have a tough time continuing in the job if this is true. Rightfully or wrongfully, the fallout will be intense, and it will fall upon her.Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 18, 2024 05:55 PM (ycI94)
353 290 A lot of confusion regarding appropriate roles of the sexes has been brought about by TV series’… especially the fantasy police procedural shows and military type series
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The wife watches a lot of British police dramas from recent years and you wouldn't believe the contortions the script writers go into to show an elderly female detective apprehending a criminal without the bad guy beating her ass like it was free.Posted by: Azathoth at July 18, 2024 05:55 PM (wb1YC)
354 Actual USSS fitness standars, showing the different requirements based on age and gender:
https://tinyurl.com/2jmh4xmtPosted by: MammaB at July 18, 2024 05:55 PM (6d0do)
355 critics just don't like GirlBosses(tm).
Amusingly most of the women I know in the corporate world complain about their female bosses and want male ones...Posted by: 18-1 at July 18, 2024 05:55 PM (oZhjI)
356 They could not see him until his head was over the ridge, which was fairly high.
When they did see him (this was reported but I am not certain) they could not know if it was local PD, or the guy they needed to kill. They had to rely on other eyes to know the situation, and that was the failure.
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Nonsense
They had eyes on him for 30 minutes. They chose to allow him to shoot.Posted by: Moron Robbie won't say I told you so about the tranny at July 18, 2024 05:56 PM (Em8sU)
357 Watching Biden prance around naked by the pool swinging his withered dick does not qualify you to be the director of the USSS.
Hazard pay, yes.
Director, no.
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Also therapy.Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 18, 2024 05:56 PM (YqDXo)
358 Speaking of the assassination attempt, many have commented on Trump's subdued demeanor. Yes, he is likely shaken by the close call and humbled by what may have been divine intervention. (Also, ear injuries are very painful and he's likely on opioids.)
But I believe something else is weighing heavily upon him. His efforts to restore America's greatness has made him a target and thus cost the life of an innocent person who would still be with his family otherwise. Trump's heart is breaking for the other victims. It's not Trump's fault that the unhinged left has endangered innocent people, but the evil left is extracting a penalty of violence, death and injuries because Trump and Americans are resisting the left's oppression.Posted by: Emmie at July 18, 2024 05:56 PM (Sf2cq)
359 I can see the problem. If they blow the guy away, and he turns out to be a cop, or some innocent rally attendee who just wanted a better look, there would be hell to pay.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
Except there were rally attendees for 26 minutes saying there's a man over there with a gun. It should've taken less than one minute to verify. One minute and 15 seconds to shoot the fucker.Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 18, 2024 05:56 PM (c9Bew)
360 This reminds me of a session on the Whatever podcast. The host asked his feminists guests if woman were as good at being soldiers as men and they all answered yes. Then he asked doesn't that mean they should be eligible for the draft as well and the answer from each was no.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 18, 2024 05:52 PM (oZhjI)
It was common that when Union soldiers asked Rebs why they were still fighting the top reason was the gals back home would ostracize them if they didn't fight. When the Union started taking the interior near the end wives and girls started begging for them to come back and desertion spiked up massively.Posted by: Oldcat at July 18, 2024 05:56 PM (eoQWY)
361 Halpern:
BREAKING NEWS: Multiples sources outline the apparent state of play on Biden at this time:
* plans to announce withdrawal from nomination as early as this weekend, with Sunday most likely
* Jon Meacham polishing up remarks
* Biden with NOT resign the presidency
* Biden will NOT endorse Harris
* open convention with Harris and about 3 others
* super delegates will not be allowed to vote on 1st ballot
* Harris is vetting at least four possible running mates, including Andy Beshear and possibly Shapiro
More on this fluid situation at 6pm ET LIVE on YouTube @2waytvappPosted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 18, 2024 05:56 PM (evvc2)
362 The Secret Service should start hiring agents with one leg longer than the other to cope with sloping rooftops.
Posted by: Justin Credible at July 18, 2024 05:39 PM (sAMJ6)
That's what the chick agents are for. Go to the crest of the roof, flop your boobs over, voila... secure position.Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 18, 2024 05:56 PM (U7wke)
363 I be prouds to announce the Kmalala Harris FART Tube Collectours item is now on sale. They is $59.95 per Tube +TAX+SHIPPING and HANDLING and a small Processing Fee. All proceeds will be given to help Gay Childrin of Coler Reprducktive Hellth Care.Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at July 18, 2024 05:56 PM (1t11C)
364 Amusingly most of the women I know in the corporate world complain about their female bosses and want male ones...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 18, 2024 05:55 PM (oZhjI)
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My wife has said that many times.Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 18, 2024 05:56 PM (YqDXo)
365
lol, that is so good!
Now the DUmmies are pissed at the SS, too!
Because they didn't prevent "the easiest opponent to defeat in November" from becoming an Icon!Posted by: Soothsayer at July 18, 2024 05:56 PM (NrlFJ)
366 Leeds, England is burning. Muzzies rioting. Live feed:
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I am sure Starmer will be right on that.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2024 05:55 PM (D7oie)
England is revolting?
They stink on ice!Posted by: BurtTC at July 18, 2024 05:57 PM (SOK15)
367 If I need protection, I'm not looking for a woman my size who can't handle a firearm.
Just sayin.Posted by: nurse ratched at July 18, 2024 05:57 PM (/kPV5)
368 Speaking of the assassination attempt, many have commented on Trump's subdued demeanor. Yes, he is likely shaken by the close call and humbled by what may have been divine intervention. (Also, ear injuries are very painful and he's likely on opioids.)
But I believe something else is weighing heavily upon him. His efforts to restore America's greatness has made him a target and thus cost the life of an innocent person who would still be with his family otherwise. Trump's heart is breaking for the other victims. It's not Trump's fault that the unhinged left has endangered innocent people, but the evil left is extracting a penalty of violence, death and injuries because Trump and Americans are resisting the left's oppression.
Posted by: Emmie
All of this. +1Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 18, 2024 05:57 PM (c9Bew)
369 They had eyes on him for 30 minutes. They chose to allow him to shoot.
A multitude of sources have reported the local PD and individual SS agents notified "command" that Crooks was there. Command choose to allow Trump to go out and speak and not send agents to do anything.
And this is AFTER a couple of their cops tried to investigate Crooks on their own and he pointed his gun at themPosted by: 18-1 at July 18, 2024 05:57 PM (oZhjI)
370 This is a major point: DEI rejects all criticisms of it based on incompetence of failure. DEI is a poisonous religious cult which claims that every failure of a DEI hire is actually the fault of the only people permitted under this system to be villains: White men.
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DEI is a political MacGuffin!
[h/t Ace]Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 18, 2024 05:58 PM (xd08e)
371 Come on, you KNOW that there are so many female SS on Trump's detail because they thought it would irk him....It is more than likely a purposeful decision. And, I'll bet that there aren't half as many female SS on other similar detachments.
The assume Trump to be a dyed in the wool chauvinist, and this was their little joke on him.Posted by: Orson at July 18, 2024 05:58 PM (dIske)
372 In case the boss hasn't heard, the wife of Max Boot has been charged with espionage.
Story is at mediaite.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 18, 2024 05:49 PM (MeG8a)
https://ace.mu.nu/archives/410650.php
Don't comment on old threads.Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 18, 2024 05:58 PM (U7wke)
373 They could not see him until his head was over the ridge, which was fairly high.
When they did see him (this was reported but I am not certain) they could not know if it was local PD, or the guy they needed to kill. They had to rely on other eyes to know the situation, and that was the failure.
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Nonsense
They had eyes on him for 30 minutes. They chose to allow him to shoot.
Posted by: Moron Robbie won't say I told you so about the tranny at July 18, 2024 05:56 PM (Em8sU)
They knew someone suspicious was around for an hour -- before Trump even took the stage. And they let him go on stage.Posted by: Oldcat at July 18, 2024 05:58 PM (eoQWY)
374 Fucked up rules of engagement wouldn't allow the counter snipers to shoot first.
Posted by: rickb223
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Read my comment #322
I don't think it was that simple.Posted by: PFC Obvious at July 18, 2024 05:58 PM (ikAZq)
375 I met a female ss agent once, she was tall, fit and had perfect eyesight, and also looked like a woman
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If they all looked like the blonde in the "Police Academy" movie from back in the 80s, there wouldn't be so much complaining.Posted by: Azathoth at July 18, 2024 05:58 PM (wb1YC)
376 202 According to SS recruiting literature I've seen, the protected classes include "disability."
I believe there are many, many jobs you can perform despite some disability, but there are a handful of jobs that require extraordinary ability. If you have Any Physical Disability What So Ever, you shouldn't waste your time applying for these jobs.
I'm fringe that way.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 18, 2024 05:37 PM (wzAuc)
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Well the FAA wants to hire disabled people including blind, mentally challenged, physically handicapped. "Bob, I can't see those two jets that you say are about to collide."Posted by: Ciampino - Thur Update #20 at July 18, 2024 05:58 PM (qfLjt)
377
Democrats Obi-Wan-Kenobi'd President Trump.Posted by: Soothsayer at July 18, 2024 05:58 PM (NrlFJ)
378 I loved that photo of the cow on the roof that was making the rounds.Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 18, 2024 05:58 PM (MLHNM)
379 I have a boss who’s a girl (not a girlboss) she treats me and a male coworker great
She treats our female coworkers like ass monkey piss
It’s actually a bit awkward and embarrassingPosted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at July 18, 2024 05:59 PM (DBZuM)
380 So Horde, what is your vote on the Gray ambience??Posted by: tubal at July 18, 2024 05:59 PM (PCK5/)
381 Wait, I just realized that the two or three snipers in the building beneath the shooter were apparently not in radio contact with anyone at allPosted by: Moron Robbie won't say I told you so about the tranny at July 18, 2024 05:59 PM (Em8sU)
382 BREAKING: Today, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in favor of election integrity! Voters in Arizona who register with the state and do not provide proof of citizenship will be rejected.
"This is a victory for election integrity in Arizona. Only U.S. citizens should be allowed to vote in our elections. It sounds like common sense, but the radical left elected officials in our state continue to reject this notion, disrespecting the voices of our lawful Arizona voters. We are grateful the court is upholding this provision in our law, and it's time for Congress to take action to ensure only lawful U.S. citizens are voting in federal races." - @votewarrenPosted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 18, 2024 05:59 PM (evvc2)
383 How come there aren't any black SS females on that detachment. Now I'm pissed.Posted by: Orson at July 18, 2024 06:00 PM (dIske)
384 Carrot Top witness guy interviewed on video by the BBC talked us through all the pertinent events leading up to The Shot. That video was up within 60 minutes after the shot.Posted by: 13times at July 18, 2024 06:00 PM (hAU6L)
385 >>Anthony Guglielmi, the Secret Service's chief of communication, said in the statement: "We...
"It is an insult to the women of our agency to imply that they are unqualified based on gender. Such baseless assertions undermine the professionalism, dedication and expertise of our workforce," he added.
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As usual, blurring the differences to smear critics as bigots. I am sure there are a lot of positions/tasks for *competent* female SS agents. However, covering a person who is at least 1 ft taller than you isn't one of them. For example, Jill is small - protect her.
No one is saying they're unqualified based on gender. They're just not the right people to cover Trump, at minimum. And based on the clownshow in front of Trump's car, they're likely unqualified due to poor performance.Posted by: Lizzy at July 18, 2024 06:00 PM (+oRno)
386 If they all looked like the blonde in the "Police Academy" movie from back in the 80s, there wouldn't be so much complaining.
Posted by: Azathoth at July 18, 2024 05:58 PM (wb1YC)
No complaints here.Posted by: Tackleberry at July 18, 2024 06:00 PM (Aqu9a)
387 RIP Lou Dobbs. 💔Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 18, 2024 06:00 PM (IcuR4)
388 Leeds, England is burning. Muzzies rioting. Live feed:
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I am sure Starmer will be right on that.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 18, 2024 05:55 PM (D7oie)
England is revolting?
They stink on ice!
Posted by: BurtTC at July 18, 2024 05:57 PM (SOK15)
One of Starmer's first acts was letting go a ringleader of one of the many Muslim rape gangs that the police protected for many years.Posted by: Oldcat at July 18, 2024 06:00 PM (eoQWY)
389 It's not Trump's fault that the unhinged left has endangered innocent people, but the evil left is extracting a penalty of violence, death and injuries because Trump and Americans are resisting the left's oppression.
Posted by: Emmie at July 18, 2024 05:56 PM (Sf2cq)
I think everyone in the world is waiting to hear what he has to say tonight. It's the most important political address of most of our lifetimes.
I'm not even going to speculate on what he will say (or should say), but it's possible this could be the turning point of the 21st century.Posted by: BurtTC at July 18, 2024 06:00 PM (SOK15)
390 Nonsense
They had eyes on him for 30 minutes. They chose to allow him to shoot.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
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Who had eyes on him, the sniper teams?
I think command allowed him to shoot. I do not think the sniper teams or even most of the agents on the ground were involved.Posted by: PFC Obvious at July 18, 2024 06:00 PM (ikAZq)
391 Police Academy" movie from back in the 80s, there wouldn't be so much complaining.
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I actually had a blonde like that who was my trainer but try as I might I could not get her to wrestle with me
One of the bigger disappointments of my lifePosted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at July 18, 2024 06:00 PM (DBZuM)
392 You ablists just want people with ability!Posted by: Axeman at July 18, 2024 06:00 PM (OaZlZ)
393 316 At this point, if Mayorkas hasn't fired this incompetent DEI hire, the only logical conclusion that can be drawn is he is glad Trump was shot.
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Nuh‐uh. It's just that if I fire someone that isn't a white male, my department's Blackrock ESG score would drop.Posted by: Mayorkas at July 18, 2024 06:01 PM (Taas0)
394 The wife watches a lot of British police dramas from recent years and you wouldn't believe the contortions the script writers go into to show an elderly female detective apprehending a criminal without the bad guy beating her ass like it was free.
Posted by: Azathoth at July 18, 2024 05:55 PM (wb1YC)
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We were watching one of those last night. Two probationer chicks were sent in to break a bar fight.
Srsly. Hell, I wouldn't want to do that.Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 18, 2024 06:02 PM (YqDXo)
395 Well the FAA wants to hire disabled people including blind, mentally challenged, physically handicapped. "Bob, I can't see those two jets that you say are about to collide."
Posted by: Ciampino - Thur Update #20 at July 18, 2024 05:58 PM (qfLjt)
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Makes perfect sense. On hot days when the teacher left the room door open we could hear the Special Ed students making car and airplane noises as they traversed the hallway. Experience is important!!!!Posted by: Orson at July 18, 2024 06:02 PM (dIske)
396 >>The assume Trump to be a dyed in the wool chauvinist, and this was their little joke on him.
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Trump has always hired women to top spots in his business.Posted by: Lizzy at July 18, 2024 06:02 PM (+oRno)
397 The woman being able to tell the men to do hard, dangerous things is very similar to having the right to vote for war while they get to stay home.Posted by: Moron Robbie won't say I told you so about the tranny at July 18, 2024 06:02 PM (uiyhT)
398 One of Starmer's first acts was letting go a ringleader of one of the many Muslim rape gangs that the police protected for many years.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 18, 2024 06:00 PM (eoQWY)
It's funny how nobody... and I do mean nobody seems to be suggesting this fella is going to somehow make England a better place. Nobody seems to believe he has anything to offer, to improve that sinking third world shithole country.
His party won a lot of seats. That's all anyone seems to care about, so they can continue to import more brown future Britons.Posted by: BurtTC at July 18, 2024 06:03 PM (SOK15)
399 Another point --
Imagine you are on the roof as a sniper. You are told there is a man with a gun, but you can't see him and he is in the area under local control.
you see someone looking over a ridge. Do you shoot?
CERTAINLY, IF THERE WAS A THREAT THEY WOULD HAVE TAKEN TRUMP OFF THE STAGE. No, you think he must be a friendly and the reports are out of confusion.Posted by: PFC Obvious at July 18, 2024 06:03 PM (ikAZq)
400 One of the last episodes of Adam-12, Jo Ann Pflug joined the cast as a policewoman. I think it was maybe a planned spinoff. All the other cops are skeptical and kinda jerks, except Reed and Malloy. She goes on to physically run down, tackle and apprehend a couple rioting hippies, in the course of one half-hour show. She is quite tall, maybe 5'10" and a strong-looking physique. She always impressed me.Posted by: TV Times at July 18, 2024 06:03 PM (V5BDR)
401 Speaking of the assassination attempt, many have commented on Trump's subdued demeanor. Yes, he is likely shaken by the close call and humbled by what may have been divine intervention. (Also, ear injuries are very painful and he's likely on opioids.)
But I believe something else is weighing heavily upon him. His efforts to restore America's greatness has made him a target and thus cost the life of an innocent person who would still be with his family otherwise. Trump's heart is breaking for the other victims. It's not Trump's fault that the unhinged left has endangered innocent people, but the evil left is extracting a penalty of violence, death and injuries because Trump and Americans are resisting the left's oppression.
Posted by: Emmie
It's not just the left that want's Trump dead, it's about almost all of europe along with iran, ukraine, iran, palestine, turkey, etc.Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 18, 2024 06:03 PM (QNSds)
402 * Harris is vetting at least four possible running mates, including Andy Beshear and possibly Shapiro
More on this fluid situation at 6pm ET LIVE on YouTube @2waytvapp
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 18, 2024 05:56 PM (evvc2)
Ben Shapiro? He will win the VP debate with FACTS and LOGIC!Posted by: Oldcat at July 18, 2024 06:03 PM (eoQWY)
403 Speaking of the assassination attempt, many have commented on Trump's subdued demeanor. Yes, he is likely shaken by the close call and humbled by what may have been divine intervention. (Also, ear injuries are very painful and he's likely on opioids.)
But I believe something else is weighing heavily upon him. His efforts to restore America's greatness has made him a target and thus cost the life of an innocent person who would still be with his family otherwise. Trump's heart is breaking for the other victims. It's not Trump's fault that the unhinged left has endangered innocent people, but the evil left is extracting a penalty of violence, death and injuries because Trump and Americans are resisting the left's oppression.
Posted by: Emmie at July 18, 2024 05:56 PM (Sf2cq)
I've had the same thought. The would-be assassin, after firing a round or two at Pres. Trump, then decided it would be a good idea to keep shooting into the crowd until he was killed. This kid was so consumed by hatred that he just wanted to kill people that were presumed fans of Pres. Trump.
The Democrats have blood on their hands. However, they have neither honor nor shame, so they don't care.Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 18, 2024 06:03 PM (pJWtt)
404 Who had eyes on him, the sniper teams?
I think command allowed him to shoot. I do not think the sniper teams or even most of the agents on the ground were involved.
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Cops and the crowd watched him for 30 minutes.
The cops sent a photo to the SS.
They were either ignored or told to stand down.Posted by: Moron Robbie won't say I told you so about the tranny at July 18, 2024 06:04 PM (Em8sU)
405 It is an insult to the women of our agency to imply that they are unqualified based on gender. Such baseless assertions undermine the professionalism, dedication and expertise of our workforce," he added.
Your agency has done more in a single event to that undermine the professionalism, dedication and expertise of your workforce asshat. Hiring and deploying unqualified wymenz is the least of your issues.Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 18, 2024 06:04 PM (YRsIm)
406 390 Nonsense
They had eyes on him for 30 minutes. They chose to allow him to shoot.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
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Who had eyes on him, the sniper teams?
I think command allowed him to shoot. I do not think the sniper teams or even most of the agents on the ground were involved.
Posted by: PFC Obvious at July 18, 2024 06:00 PM (ikAZq)
Folks were screaming "gun" in the videos...it would have been hard for crowd and sniper teams not to notice...and then when the cops said it was a threat on the blanket channel, that should have been an instant shot...instead, the 20 year old was faster and got off multiple shots before SS snipers even acted...it's hard to move one's body fast enough to tackle a pres when the blanket threat went out...but it should have taken 1 second for a kill shot from the sniper...Posted by: Nova Local at July 18, 2024 06:04 PM (exHjb)
407 Fat karens will fuck up, and you will like it and ask for more.Posted by: Spaulding Smales of the FBI at July 18, 2024 06:04 PM (381By)
408 Trump 52
Biden 47Posted by: CBS News at July 18, 2024 06:04 PM (Y8lzz)
409 So Biden is out in a matter of days. Democrats fight to pick up the pieces. Are schadenboners allowed yet? Asking for a friend.Posted by: Usnkim deplorable me. at July 18, 2024 06:04 PM (oEvI1)
410 >>> 361
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Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 18, 2024 05:56 PM (evvc2)
I'll believe Brandon is stepping down when I see it, much like Xi having had a stroke. That being said, I would LMAO if he (or DOCTOR Jill) really did refuse to endorse Kamala.Posted by: he at July 18, 2024 06:04 PM (VavZF)
411 **** Big Win For Election Integrity in AZ****
9th Cir ruled today that AZ's new law, which requires proof of citizenship at the time of voter registration, IS Constitutional.
The U.S. House just passed similar federal legislation, but the DEMs killed it in the Senate. Refused to allow it to come to a vote.
So... what difference does it make which party holds the Senate majority? A lot. Let me count the ways. No J. Kavanaugh, etc.Posted by: mnw at July 18, 2024 06:04 PM (NLIak)
412 Newsmax is reporting Biden stepping down.Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 18, 2024 06:04 PM (Aoykm)
413 How can someone ever improve when every failure is greeted as A Historic First worthy of praise?
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* DogEater, Hillary, and Kumala have entered the chat *Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 18, 2024 06:05 PM (UL8Eh)
414 As usual, blurring the differences to smear critics as bigots. I am sure there are a lot of positions/tasks for *competent* female SS agents. However, covering a person who is at least 1 ft taller than you isn't one of them. For example, Jill is small - protect her.
No one is saying they're unqualified based on gender. They're just not the right people to cover Trump, at minimum. And based on the clownshow in front of Trump's car, they're likely unqualified due to poor performance.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 18, 2024 06:00 PM (+oRno)
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There's another consideration: the need to have a certain size to subdue a malefactor, or even to wrestle the protectee away from danger. A little 5'5" 110 lb. chick basically can't do that unless she's up against Robert Reich.Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 18, 2024 06:05 PM (YqDXo)
415 We were watching one of those last night. Two probationer chicks were sent in to break a bar fight.
Srsly. Hell, I wouldn't want to do that.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
I would. But there will be a lot of split skulls because I'll be popping them with a night stick. The only way you shut that shit down is with overwhelming force.Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 18, 2024 06:05 PM (c9Bew)
416 Today's Secret Service - When your best really isn't good enough but we won't ignore your excellent contribution to failure, because we ALL have something to give.
Still, I think there is more to this shooting than incompetence.
And if that makes me a conspiracy theorist, then so be it. Oh and on that note, FUCK CNN and their little blonde damsel the other night, with her gasping at the suggestion of possible intentionality from Representative Cory Mills!
Posted by: Tracy at July 18, 2024 06:05 PM (mOyIJ)
417
harris ain't "vetting" anyonePosted by: Soothsayer at July 18, 2024 06:05 PM (NrlFJ)
418 How can someone ever improve when every failure is greeted as A Historic First worthy of praise?
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"Historic" in Newspeak means "not worth a shit."Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 18, 2024 06:05 PM (YqDXo)
419 @412 Jak Sucio-heard Biden stepping aside tooPosted by: JROD at July 18, 2024 06:06 PM (IlL6s)
420 >>The wife watches a lot of British police dramas from recent years and you wouldn't believe the contortions the script writers go into to show an elderly female detective apprehending a criminal without the bad guy beating her ass like it was free.
Have you watched "Luther?" It's unintentionally the best justification for arming police. It's always: Det. Luther confronts killer and tells him he's under arrest. Killer says "Nuh uh!" and grabs a gun/pipe/bat and swings at Luther. Luther, being huge, beats up the guy and drags him to the station. Luther's boss suspends him for being violent. Oh, and his partners get shot and die because they're unarmed. UK is crazy.Posted by: Lizzy at July 18, 2024 06:06 PM (+oRno)
421 Obama on small-town Pa.: Clinging to religion, guns, xenophobia, By Ben Smith 04/11/2008
Huffpo's Mayhill Fowler has more from Obama's remarks at a San Francisco fundraiser Sunday, and they include an attempt to explain the resentment in small-town Pennsylvania that won't be appreciated by some of the people whose votes Obama's seeking:
"You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not.
And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.
That's a pretty broad list of things to explain with job loss.
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The elections of 2016 & 2020, covid have changed even small rural town politics. They can't shrug & decide more's not needed NOW for security because an area voted >60% for PDT 2020. Educated ignorancePosted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at July 18, 2024 06:06 PM (NFX2v)
422 So Horde, what is your vote on the Gray ambience??
Posted by: tubal at July 18, 2024 05:59 PM (PCK5/)
I am consumed with burning ambivalence.Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 18, 2024 06:06 PM (U7wke)
423 An unscreened person in an unsecured location with a clear line of sight to the primary is a big Bozo No-No for the Secret Service. Heads are sure to roll over this.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 18, 2024 05:55 PM (ycI94)
That's a rare bit of sanity from a Leftist.
On another board I visit there is an over the top Biden lover. He's also a rabid Trump h8ter. Day after the assassination attempt, his take was no mistakes were made, no one is to blame, everybody stop knocking the brave SS and the totes competent Biden Admin. He wrote the snipe was obviously a determined guy with an excellent good plan. He said it is impossible to always stop assassins who are totally committed to getting the target. He has not changed his opinion and attacks anyone who disagrees.
Hoo-boy.Posted by: Gref at July 18, 2024 06:06 PM (5fDan)
424 Well, everyone heard Menendez was stepping down yesterday...that lasted 24 hours...Posted by: Nova Local at July 18, 2024 06:06 PM (exHjb)
425 Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 18, 2024 06:03 PM (QNSds)
Youtube comments are full of Europeans who love Trump.
"All of Europe" is a media concoction, plus the bureaucracy and politicians, and Muslims. Actual native Dutch etc know they're getting jobbed by their elites.Posted by: in the best of hands at July 18, 2024 06:07 PM (gKWVE)
426 I wonder which way the military is going to break with all of the CINC turmoil.Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 18, 2024 06:07 PM (YIxO9)
427 It's funny how nobody... and I do mean nobody seems to be suggesting this fella is going to somehow make England a better place. Nobody seems to believe he has anything to offer, to improve that sinking third world shithole country.
His party won a lot of seats. That's all anyone seems to care about, so they can continue to import more brown future Britons.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 18, 2024 06:03 PM (SOK15)
he's basically a Trudeau/Gavin Newsome type. Looks like a politician from Central Casting. Useless Doof in practice. Gets kept around until he rises to the top like scum.
They "won" seats because the Tories plummeted past them to the bottom. They got fewer votes than the last election which gave the Tories a huge majority.Posted by: Oldcat at July 18, 2024 06:07 PM (eoQWY)
428 BREAKING NEWS: Multiples sources outline the apparent state of play on Biden at this time:
* plans to announce withdrawal from nomination as early as this weekend, with Sunday most likely
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I have a source that says Kathleen Kennedy is about to be fired, too.Posted by: Methos at July 18, 2024 06:07 PM (Dnobf)
429 >>> 396 >>The assume Trump to be a dyed in the wool chauvinist, and this was their little joke on him.
?
Trump has always hired women to top spots in his business.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 18, 2024 06:02 PM (+oRno)
I thought Trump was a racist for the longest time...Posted by: Amber Rose at July 18, 2024 06:07 PM (VavZF)
430 I would. But there will be a lot of split skulls because I'll be popping them with a night stick. The only way you shut that shit down is with overwhelming force.
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 18, 2024 06:05 PM (c9Bew)
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OK, I stand corrected. If I had a nightstick, and the permission to use it, I'd be good with that too.
But suppose you were a cop in Minneapolis. You'd be bunking down with Derek Chauvin if you used your nightstick on anyone, but especially a minority.Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 18, 2024 06:07 PM (YqDXo)
431 Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 18, 2024 06:03 PM (QNSds)
Also one supporter is dead and several are injured. At his own rally. And he's alive. He must be absolutely beside himself.Posted by: ... at July 18, 2024 06:07 PM (lX8VI)
432 " ...and fully capable of performing our missions,..."
Proof?
Pay no attention to naked facts, previous examples, YOUR OWN EYES.
Rather, join us in our twisted delusions based on OUR feelings, messed up ideas [, mental illnesses] and twisted fantasies!
Bleh. I'm so sick of these people.Posted by: Lady Who Always Has a Burning Question at July 18, 2024 06:08 PM (lVUDp)
433 If Pedo Joe steps down how do the donkey commies square the circle that he is not mentally well enough to be the nominee but fine to keep running the country..... into the ground?
Even with the democrat propaganda media.Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 18, 2024 06:08 PM (17s+e)
434 355 critics just don't like GirlBosses(tm).
Amusingly most of the women I know in the corporate world complain about their female bosses and want male ones...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 18, 2024
I had a group under me like this. Their employees called them “The Coven”. When someone got brave enough to tell me and show me facts, “The Coven” were invited to prosper elsewhere.Posted by: Piper at July 18, 2024 06:08 PM (pZEOD)
435 "The criticisms follow a pattern from other recent news events where conservative pundits and lawmakers, without evidence, cite "diversity, equity and inclusion" (DEI) programs as a contributing cause in disasters as disparate as the Boeing-made airplane problems or the Baltimore bridge collapse."
Has somebody really blamed the bridge collapse on DEI? It looked like the ship was hacked to me.
And Boeing? It takes DEI types to compromise a product to try to save a buck? I don't think so.
DEI is completely perverse, but I don't think blaming everything that goes wrong on it, whether there's any sort of real connection or not, helps the situation.Posted by: MrExcitement at July 18, 2024 06:08 PM (hOOi9)
436 It's funny how nobody... and I do mean nobody seems to be suggesting this fella is going to somehow make England a better place. Nobody seems to believe he has anything to offer, to improve that sinking third world shithole country.
Hey, the Tories had over a decade to do anything....and they failed. They were worse than having the GOPe in charge of all branches of government. They richly deserved getting thrown out.Posted by: Moron Analyst at July 18, 2024 06:08 PM (ycI94)
437 BREAKING - FBI has declined an invitation from the House Homeland Security Committee for Director Christopher Wray to testify next week about the Trump assassination attempt
https://tinyurl.com/43ccwcam
Someone explain how all these government jerks can refuse to appear at a Congressional Hearing but Bannon went to jail for that.Posted by: Ciampino - Thur Update #21 at July 18, 2024 06:08 PM (qfLjt)
438
Shapiro ain't gonna be on the ticket.
We have a lot of jew haters on "our side." We do. I see it every day. Youtuber Mark Dice, for example. The good news is the Democrats have 10X as many jew haters in their party.
Camelface is already hated by blacks because of her "white jew" husband and kids. They're not going to like Shapiro.Posted by: Soothsayer at July 18, 2024 06:08 PM (NrlFJ)
439 It's not just the left that want's Trump dead, it's about almost all of europe along with iran, ukraine, iran, palestine, turkey, etc.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 18, 2024 06:03 PM (QNSds)
I don't know about that. Maybe some in those governments do, but for the most part I think everyone is hoping for a way to avert WWIII. Including the ones most Americans consider to be bad guys.Posted by: BurtTC at July 18, 2024 06:08 PM (SOK15)
440 I have a source that says Kathleen Kennedy is about to be fired, too.
Posted by: Methos at July 18, 2024 06:07 PM (Dnobf)
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I heard Kathleen Kennedy is going to be the new director of the Secret Service.Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 18, 2024 06:08 PM (YqDXo)
441 Even the left / ruling class now understands and accepts that the term DEI is an insult. That is good news. They realize that DEI is now fully synonymous with "unqualified."Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at July 18, 2024 06:09 PM (d9Cw3)
442 It would make sense for Joe to quit tonight.. Take thunder from Trump's speech and the convention...Posted by: It's me donna at July 18, 2024 06:09 PM (IyPmt)
443 If Michael Obama is drafted, that’s a fucking problemPosted by: Jak Sucio at July 18, 2024 06:09 PM (Aoykm)
Posted by: garrett at July 18, 2024 06:09 PM (X1WfU)
445 The "Pitch Meeting" for "The Assassination" For those without access to X...
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Joseph Mallozzi 🏴☠️
@BaronDestructo
Thanks for the script. Overall, the plotting feels contrived and, at times, defies logic, so we’re going to require a fairly extensive rewrite for the second draft.
Our biggest issue with the script is the characterization of the Secret Service who come across as so inept that it defies credulity. Specifics to follow.
Could we put the building that the shooter climbs onto OUTSIDE a proper security zone instead of the current Pac Man configuration that only excludes his position?
The Secret Service Director character seems to lack the intelligence one would expect from someone in their position. Please have her come up with something more plausible than the “too slopey!" excuse for why no armed agents were stationed on the rooftop. Let’s work a little harder to create a more clever explanation for the egregious lapse in professional conduct, one that our audience could buy into. Maybe the shooter incapacitated the agents inside the building through non-lethal means, say a knock-out gas or drugs in their water supply.
TBCPosted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2024 06:09 PM (Q4IgG)
446 Flash Flood Warning on phone. May have to go up on the roof with Bossie.Posted by: Sloped Up There at July 18, 2024 06:09 PM (V5BDR)
447 >>> 426 I wonder which way the military is going to break with all of the CINC turmoil.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 18, 2024 06:07 PM (YIxO9)
Into at least two pieces, if our times get much more interesting.Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 18, 2024 06:10 PM (VavZF)
448 >>Today's Secret Service - When your best really isn't good enough but we won't ignore your excellent contribution to failure, because we ALL have something to give.
Saw a Kim Cheatle statement describing her teams in Butler as "flawless."
When asked if the perimeter at the rally was too small, Cheatle told CNN it "encompassed the area that we needed to secure the event that we had on that day."
"What happened is a terrible incident and should never happen. And we are obviously going to make sure move forward we take whatever any lessons that come out of this and adjust accordingly.". . .
"They’re obviously difficult conversations. Everyone [who] works for the Secret Service never wants to have a day like that," Cheatle told CNN. "We perform our job flawlessly. The people who covered and evacuated the president on that day, the counter sniper — performed their job flawlessly, and I’m very proud of the actions that they took."
Unreal!Posted by: Lizzy at July 18, 2024 06:10 PM (+oRno)
449 I ain’t getting on that cart Jack!Posted by: Joe Biden at July 18, 2024 06:10 PM (Y8lzz)
450 Also one supporter is dead and several are injured. At his own rally. And he's alive. He must be absolutely beside himself.
Posted by: ... at July 18, 2024 06:07 PM (lX8VI)
His heart is broken for those people. He wants to rescue our nation from this type of stuff.Posted by: Emmie at July 18, 2024 06:10 PM (Sf2cq)
451 Biden is stepping down, or Biden is falling down? I need clarificationPosted by: Wally at July 18, 2024 06:10 PM (9Uj9K)
452
btw, whoever is putting out the rumor (lie) that harris is "vetting" veeps, is probably someone on the harris staff, or someone trying send yet another message to jill biden to screw.Posted by: Soothsayer at July 18, 2024 06:10 PM (NrlFJ)
453 "The criticisms follow a pattern from other recent news events where conservative pundits and lawmakers, without evidence, cite "diversity, equity and inclusion" (DEI) programs as a contributing cause in disasters as disparate as the Boeing-made airplane problems or the Baltimore bridge collapse."
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They're conflating the Baltimore bridge accident with the collapse of the footbridge in Florida.Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 18, 2024 06:10 PM (YqDXo)
454 Hey, the Tories had over a decade to do anything....and they failed. They were worse than having the GOPe in charge of all branches of government. They richly deserved getting thrown out.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at July 18, 2024 06:08 PM (ycI94)
Absolutely, but now it seems everyone thinks it's Labor's turn to do nothing. Other than let more brown men into the country.Posted by: BurtTC at July 18, 2024 06:11 PM (SOK15)
455 I heard Kathleen Kennedy is going to be the new director of the Secret Service.
All agents will now be outfitted with light sabers.Posted by: Archimedes at July 18, 2024 06:11 PM (xCA6C)
456 It's not just the left that want's Trump dead, it's about almost all of europe along with iran, ukraine, iran, palestine, turkey, etc.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 18, 2024 06:03 PM (QNSds)
I don't know about that. Maybe some in those governments do, but for the most part I think everyone is hoping for a way to avert WWIII. Including the ones most Americans consider to be bad guys.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 18, 2024 06:08 PM
I was talking about the governments of those countries, not the people. I guess I did not articulate my thoughts very well.Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 18, 2024 06:11 PM (QNSds)
457 I have a source that says Kathleen Kennedy is about to be fired, too.
Posted by: Methos
What a coincidence! Me too! Should be any day now.Posted by: Doomcock at July 18, 2024 06:11 PM (ycI94)
458 We have achieved "peak" diversity...Posted by: USSS HR Dept at July 18, 2024 06:11 PM (tQrL+)
459 Posted by: Lizzy at July 18, 2024 06:06 PM (+oRno)
Luther is great but has one of the worst TV tropes, which is essential a 60's Batman cliffhanger to end a season that shoots immediately into like a "six months later" the next season. It's probably fine in streaming but we waited like a year for that.Posted by: ... at July 18, 2024 06:11 PM (lX8VI)
460 I also think that whole section was outside the sniper's area of concern. It was a group of buildings mostly hidden from their positions by trees and a harvester. It was outside the fence, and had lots of locals where they did not know who was who. I also think the near team could not really see what was going on and the far team are the ones who engaged.
Posted by: PFC Obvious at July 18, 2024 05:51 PM (ikAZ
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Stop coddling them, if the kid could see Trump then they could see him. Not to mention the senators said they had him for twenty minutes. Regardless isn’t it their job to put themselves it a position to cover all high risk areas? IOW they knew that roof was a great location for a shooter, they knew the roof slope direction, etc. They just didn’t do their jobs, the proof is in the pudding.Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 18, 2024 06:11 PM (2fIO4)
461 Has somebody really blamed the bridge collapse on DEI? It looked like the ship was hacked to me.
Not that bridge, but that Florida engineering, college pedestrian bridge that fell, yes.Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 18, 2024 06:11 PM (c9Bew)
462 Saw a Kim Cheatle statement describing her teams in Butler as "flawless."
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Flawless, feckless, what's in a word?Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 18, 2024 06:11 PM (YqDXo)
463 Saw a Kim Cheatle statement describing her teams in Butler as "flawless."
When asked if the perimeter at the rally was too small, Cheatle told CNN it "encompassed the area that we needed to secure the event that we had on that day."
*stares openmouthed*Posted by: Archimedes at July 18, 2024 06:12 PM (xCA6C)
464 Michelle ain’t running. Too much work, too little time for interesting Italians.Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at July 18, 2024 06:12 PM (Y8lzz)
Posted by: Azathoth at July 18, 2024 06:12 PM (wb1YC)
466 >>Biden is stepping down, or Biden is falling down? I need clarification
"Being pushed down."
-- Top DemocratsPosted by: Lizzy at July 18, 2024 06:12 PM (+oRno)
467 I heard Kathleen Kennedy is going to be the new director of the Secret Service.
All agents will now be outfitted with light sabers.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 18, 2024 06:11 PM (xCA6C)
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Put chicks in there and make them gay!Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 18, 2024 06:13 PM (YqDXo)
468 [2]
This could also explain how the shooter could have carried the ladder over, propped it up to the building, and climbed up without being noticed by law enforcement.
Speaking of the ladder, can we make it a lightweight retractable model instead of the 20 foot heavy version he is currently lugging around in the script? Or, better yet, could it already be there? Maybe the security personnel were planning to use it to climb onto the roof later or repairs were being effected to the roof earlier that morning.
Could we come up with an alternative explanation for why the Secret Service is curtailed rather than the current “He had to share with the President’s wife”?
I’m bumping on the idea of the Secret Service outsourcing the protection of a Presidential candidate to a local police detachment of 12 officers. Can we double that number?
Can we lose the scene where the shooter passes through the security screening hours before the shooting with a rangefinder and is clocked by the Secret Service but nobody does anything about it? It makes them look incompetent.
TBCPosted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2024 06:13 PM (Q4IgG)
469 >>> 463 Saw a Kim Cheatle statement describing her teams in Butler as "flawless."
When asked if the perimeter at the rally was too small, Cheatle told CNN it "encompassed the area that we needed to secure the event that we had on that day."
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*stares openmouthed*
Posted by: Archimedes at July 18, 2024 06:12 PM (xCA6C)
Has she seen the video of Kanna Holsterit?Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 18, 2024 06:13 PM (VavZF)
470 As an elite law enforcement agency, all of our agents and officers are highly trained and fully capable of performing our missions
The F you say. Actions speak louder then words imbecile. Right now those actions are at 150 decibels. Imagine Mr. SS spokesperson might be a DEI hire too.Posted by: Sock Monkey * Invictus Maneo at July 18, 2024 06:13 PM (OvCPZ)
Posted by: It's me donna at July 18, 2024 06:13 PM (IyPmt)
472 Cheatle told CNN. "We perform our job flawlessly. The people who covered and evacuated the president on that day, the counter sniper — performed their job flawlessly, and I’m very proud of the actions that they took."
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Unreal!
Posted by: Lizzy at July 18, 2024 06:10 PM (+oRno)
The person who killed Crooks is a they/them?
Pepsi Kim must be so so proud.Posted by: BurtTC at July 18, 2024 06:14 PM (SOK15)
473 Stop coddling them, if the kid could see Trump then they could see him. Not to mention the senators said they had him for twenty minutes. Regardless isn’t it their job to put themselves it a position to cover all high risk areas? IOW they knew that roof was a great location for a shooter, they knew the roof slope direction, etc. They just didn’t do their jobs, the proof is in the pudding.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 18, 2024 06:11 PM (2fIO4)
There should be enough men to put at least 2 on every rooftop that has a line of sight, much less the closest one.Posted by: Oldcat at July 18, 2024 06:14 PM (eoQWY)
474 Saw a Kim Cheatle statement describing her teams in Butler as "flawless."
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Yep. The only one who didn't do his job that day was the guy who missed the shot.Posted by: ... at July 18, 2024 06:14 PM (lX8VI)
475
Didn't the Democrats air tv ads showing Republicans pushing Grandma in a wheelchair off a cliff?
Or was that Rush exaggerating to make a point?Posted by: Soothsayer at July 18, 2024 06:14 PM (NrlFJ)
476 The Secret Service team worked flawlessly except for the 8 shots the assassin fired at the president and the dead and critically wounded. Other than that it was a perfect operation.
Fuck this bitch if she doesn't know it was a complete pooch screw.Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 18, 2024 06:14 PM (17s+e)
477 My sources say that Lucy Liu is just waiting for her moment to drop by this house in her Charlie's Angels outfit.Posted by: gKWVE at July 18, 2024 06:14 PM (gKWVE)
478 >> A Kamala and Andy Beshear ticket.
Could you imagine the catfight if she picks a bundle of sticks that ISN'T Mayo Pete?Posted by: garrett at July 18, 2024 06:14 PM (X1WfU)
479 They’ll have to step over Jill’s cold corpse on the way to Joe’s abdication speech.Posted by: 13times at July 18, 2024 06:14 PM (raJHR)
480 469 >>> 463 Saw a Kim Cheatle statement describing her teams in Butler as "flawless."
Wasn't flawless... You missedPosted by: It's me donna at July 18, 2024 06:14 PM (IyPmt)
481 My point is that if this was a planned hit by the 3-letter agencies, they would want the minimum number of USSS agents involved.
It is plausible that they created a situation where USSS was not involved except at the highest level -- the level that creates their zone of control excluding a key building, and the level that tells Trump to get off the stage.
I think the actions of the sniper teams were totally justifiable for an unknown threat of very low concern (Trump was allowed to go on stage) in an area they had limitied visibility, totally outside their control and filled with lots of locals with guns. They did not want to hit a local LEO, so they waited. When he shot, they reacted quickly (maybe a little slow, but not 30 min. or even 2 min. slow. 5 sec. slow at most.)Posted by: PFC Obvious at July 18, 2024 06:15 PM (ikAZq)
482 [3]
lso lose the beat where the shooter’s family contacts law enforcement to warn them that their son has gone missing with an AR-15 three hours before the assassination attempt.
Can we not have the shooter spotted on the rooftop by the attendees? While I appreciate your attempt to ramp up the tension, having 30 minutes pass between the moment people point him out to when he finally takes the shot really feels like a stretch. Instead of all these people spotting him and shouting at authorities to no avail, how about making it a lone child instead? Say a three year old loses their balloon and watches it drift skywards, past the rooftop, where he sees the man on the roof. He turns to his mother and says: “Mommy, there’s a man on the roof!” But when his mother looks, there is no one there as the shooter has ducked down and the roof fully obscures him. His mother, of course, dismisses her son's comment as the product of a child's imagination.
TBCPosted by: Martini Farmer at July 18, 2024 06:15 PM (Q4IgG)
483 Republicans pushing Grandma in a wheelchair off a cliff?
Or was that Rush exaggerating to make a point?
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It was real. 2012 I believe.Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at July 18, 2024 06:15 PM (Y8lzz)
484 Nood. Will he/won't he.Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 18, 2024 06:15 PM (U7wke)
485 As an elite law enforcement agency, all of our agents and officers are highly trained and fully capable of performing our missions
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Who you going to believe the chief DEI hire of the SS or your lying eyes and the cluster fuck they saw?Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 18, 2024 06:15 PM (17s+e)
486 The Secret Service team worked flawlessly except for the 8 shots the assassin fired at the president and the dead and critically wounded. Other than that it was a perfect operation.
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?Posted by: Archimedes at July 18, 2024 06:15 PM (xCA6C)
487 Saying the SS was in on it is like saying Covid came from a lab.
Can't say that; because of the implicationPosted by: Dennis Reynolds at July 18, 2024 06:17 PM (wBaIH)
488 We have a lot of jew haters on "our side." We do. I see it every day. Youtuber Mark Dice, for example.
At least guys like him aren't blatantly antisemitic. I support Israel all the way, but guys like Dice have a legitimate question: why do we support giving weapons to Israel, but not Ukraine? Their motivations are at least plausibly ambiguous.
Ilhan Omar, on the other hand...Posted by: Moron Analyst at July 18, 2024 06:17 PM (ycI94)
489 Regardless isn’t it their job to put themselves it a position to cover all high risk areas? IOW they knew that roof was a great location for a shooter, they knew the roof slope direction, etc. They just didn’t do their jobs, the proof is in the pudding.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 18, 2024 06:11 PM (2fIO4)
As has been pointed out before, THE high ground in the area was the water tower, very near that building.
Had there been someone posted there, he could have easily seen the shooter.Posted by: BurtTC at July 18, 2024 06:17 PM (SOK15)
490 Does anyone live where there are sloping sidewalks? If so, how the hell do you get your mail?Posted by: Stu Podaso at July 18, 2024 06:17 PM (zzhZe)
491 I mean you have to love how once the assassination Op failed it immediately moved into the Dump Biden Now Op.
I think we've gone beyond absurdity and reached something far more bizarre that obviously needs a German Word to encapsulate it.Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 18, 2024 06:17 PM (ePOTY)
492 My sources say that Lucy Liu is just waiting for her moment to drop by this house in her Charlie's Angels outfit.
Butter face. No want.Posted by: Outside of Life at July 18, 2024 06:17 PM (89Sog)
493 >>Luther is great but has one of the worst TV tropes, which is essential a 60's Batman cliffhanger to end a season that shoots immediately into like a "six months later" the next season. It's probably fine in streaming but we waited like a year for that.
Ugh, yeah, the wait.
I remember the end of one season where he had to secretly secure a handgun from that crazy female killer turned ally, just to protect himself. Gobsmacked.Posted by: Lizzy at July 18, 2024 06:18 PM (+oRno)
494 How many Hollywood stars have women bodyguards?Posted by: You know the answer at July 18, 2024 06:18 PM (B1dzx)
495 Off topic
This student loan relief injunction - here is a scam for you.
Every time they do this - change a rule, change it back on an injunction - most servicers recalculate everyone's payment amounts.
When they do that, they put it on an administrative forbearance. Without your permission.
Then they capitalize the fucking interest when they remove it.
Bunch of fucking crooks. Running this up the flagpole and then having it shot down has made the Dem cronies contracted to service the loans some untold billions of dollars in interest fuckery.
I am still livid that they nationalized my loans back in 2009. I would have had this shit paid off already, but they keep swapping servicers and playing fuck-fuck games to capitalize interest, selling the same loan to multiple servicers, etc.Posted by: somedood at July 18, 2024 06:19 PM (ZACBQ)
496 **** Big Win For Election Integrity in AZ****
9th Cir ruled today that AZ's new law, which requires proof of citizenship at the time of voter registration, IS Constitutional.
...
Posted by: mnw at July 18, 2024 06:04 PM (NLIak)
Very cool. But it doesn't sound like it impacts those who are ALREADY registered.
I'm confused about how such a law was passed in AZ, where the Republicans are corrupt, and the Governor is an illegitimate Dem.Posted by: MrExcitement at July 18, 2024 06:19 PM (hOOi9)
497 Saw a Kim Cheatle statement describing her teams in Butler as "flawless."
When asked if the perimeter at the rally was too small, Cheatle told CNN it "encompassed the area that we needed to secure the event that we had on that day."
"What happened is a terrible incident and should never happen. And we are obviously going to make sure move forward we take whatever any lessons that come out of this and adjust accordingly.". . .
"They’re obviously difficult conversations. Everyone [who] works for the Secret Service never wants to have a day like that," Cheatle told CNN. "We perform our job flawlessly. The people who covered and evacuated the president on that day, the counter sniper — performed their job flawlessly, and I’m very proud of the actions that they took."
Unreal!
Posted by: Lizzy at July 18, 2024 06:10 PM (+oRno)
Same dodge the Junta uses for every screw-up. Find a dime in the pile of horse dung. Use the dime to claim credit for doing (part of) the job properly or very well.
Reference: Using the record setting air evac of people out of Kabul as a means to imply the whole Afghan Boogaloo Charlie Foxtrot was a total win for Biden and the USA!Posted by: Gref at July 18, 2024 06:20 PM (5fDan)
498 A Kamala and Andy Beshear ticket.
Could you imagine the catfight if she picks a bundle of sticks that ISN'T Mayo Pete?
Posted by: garrett
Biden stepping down doesn't make Kackles the nominee. If Biden steps out of the race we will see a slap fight if epic proportions.Posted by: Sock Monkey * Invictus Maneo at July 18, 2024 06:20 PM (OvCPZ)
499 Stop coddling them,
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
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I am not coddling them. I am trying to be realistic.
I honestly think they are being scapegoated. (meaning the sniper teams.) They were in a very tough position.
I do not think the conspiracy goes that deep, and I do not think they were incompetent. Really, are there no good guys just trying to do a job under difficult circumstances in your world? Not everyone is incompetent or part of the conspiracy. That would make no sense.Posted by: PFC Obvious at July 18, 2024 06:20 PM (ikAZq)
500 At least guys like him aren't blatantly antisemitic. I support Israel all the way, but guys like Dice have a legitimate question: why do we support giving weapons to Israel, but not Ukraine? Their motivations are at least plausibly ambiguous.
Ilhan Omar, on the other hand...
Posted by: Moron Analyst at July 18, 2024 06:17 PM (ycI94)
200 billion compared to 30 billion over 10 years might be a consideration.Posted by: You know the answer at July 18, 2024 06:20 PM (B1dzx)
501
The problem with all these "Biden is dropping out" rumors is that Biden might change what's left of his mind at the last second. Rumors are free, actions are harder.Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 18, 2024 06:20 PM (ShEy9)
502
If Biden steps out of the race we will see a slap fight if epic proportions.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Invictus Maneo at July 18, 2024 06:20 PM (OvCPZ)
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1924 Democratic Convention: 104 ballots
2024 Democratic Convention: 208 ballotsPosted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 18, 2024 06:22 PM (ShEy9)
503 But when his mother looks, there is no one there as the shooter has ducked down and the roof fully obscures him. His mother, of course, dismisses her son's comment as the product of a child's imagination.
Except for the fact that a cop climbed up to the roof, looked at him, and he turned in, pointed his rifle at the cop.Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 18, 2024 06:23 PM (c9Bew)
504 Kim Cheatle is fully qualified to drive one of those really big Navy boats into container... uh, boats... and I am so hiring her if she gets let go from the SS.Posted by: Rear Admiral Rachel Levine, MD at July 18, 2024 06:27 PM (381By)
505 I am not coddling them. I am trying to be realistic.
I honestly think they are being scapegoated. (meaning the sniper teams.) They were in a very tough position.
I do not think the conspiracy goes that deep, and I do not think they were incompetent. Really, are there no good guys just trying to do a job under difficult circumstances in your world? Not everyone is incompetent or part of the conspiracy. That would make no sense.
Posted by: PFC Obvious at July 18, 2024 06:20 PM (ikAZq)
Who is scapegoating them? If anything, isn't there a presumption that they had "don't shoot first" orders? The real failure was the fact that the kid got away with being on the roof in the first place, despite bystanders complaining about him, no less.
The team failed either because they were ordered to fail, or because they were intentionally not allocated the resources to do even the most basic things.Posted by: MrExcitement at July 18, 2024 06:30 PM (hOOi9)
506 I am not coddling them. I am trying to be realistic.
I honestly think they are being scapegoated. (meaning the sniper teams.) They were in a very tough position.
I do not think the conspiracy goes that deep, and I do not think they were incompetent. Really, are there no good guys just trying to do a job under difficult circumstances in your world? Not everyone is incompetent or part of the conspiracy. That would make no sense.
Posted by: PFC Obvious at July 18, 2024 06:20 PM (ikAZq)
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It’s a hard job, I get it. But they failed at it. If Trump got his brains blown out would you still say they did their job?Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 18, 2024 06:32 PM (2fIO4)
507 If Trump got his brains blown out would you still say they did their job?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
Yes!!Posted by: DU denizens at July 18, 2024 06:33 PM (WXNFJ)
508 386 If they all looked like the blonde in the "Police Academy" movie from back in the 80s, there wouldn't be so much complaining.
Posted by: Azathoth at July 18, 2024 05:58 PM (wb1YC)
No complaints here.
Posted by: Tackleberry at July 18, 2024 06:00 PM (Aqu9a)
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Tackleberry had a thing with another gun nut. George Martin (Marteen) was the blonde's target.Posted by: Ciampino - Thur Update #22 at July 18, 2024 06:36 PM (qfLjt)
509 Gee whillickers!
Tonight is one of biggest nights of DJT's illustrious life. I sure hope he doesn't blemish it by taking advantage of the bastards' problems and POUNCING and SEIZING like a Viking on their little sh*tstorm.Posted by: mrp at July 18, 2024 06:43 PM (rj6Yv)
510 Cops not wanting scrutiny or any criticism? Imagine my shock.Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 18, 2024 06:43 PM (8sMut)
511 to imply that they are unqualified based on gender.
There's the switch-up: they aren't unqualified BECAUSE they're women. They just simply are unqualified. But you hired them BECAUSE they're women. We're not generally making the statement on the basis of their 'gender', you are. We're just pointing out that you ignored qualifications because of their being women.
Watch their language and untwist it before you slap them about. It's much more effective.Posted by: GWB at July 18, 2024 06:48 PM (bjHqM)
512
It’s a hard job, I get it. But they failed at it. If Trump got his brains blown out would you still say they did their job?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
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I am not basing my analysis on the results. The people above them are to blame.
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Who is scapegoating them? If anything, isn't there a presumption that they had "don't shoot first" orders? The real failure was the fact that the kid got away with being on the roof in the first place, despite bystanders complaining about him, no less.
The team failed either because they were ordered to fail, or because they were intentionally not allocated the resources to do even the most basic things.
Posted by: MrExcitement
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agreed.
Posted by: nancy pelosi at July 18, 2024 06:53 PM (ikAZq)
513 sock off.
(yikes, I am multiple levels of sock now since this is a sock too, but I started this convo with it, so I am stuck with it today.)Posted by: PFC Obvious at July 18, 2024 06:54 PM (ikAZq)
514 OK, I'm gonna throw some "nuance" into this....
First, I disagree that men are naturally better marksmen. They might have qualities that make them better suited to becoming the best, but if you look around at some of the top gunners right now, a large chunk of them are women. And marksmen don't have to be big and bulky, just good at taking out a bad guy.
And women have their place in the protective team outside of snipers, too. But they most often should be placed to play to their strengths. I'd put them in the crowd, or as the 'undercover' agents, or working in coordinating the event.
But, the DIE people don't like that because the dudes that "take bullets" for the principal have the glamor job, with all the prestige, so they want THOSE jobs.
Just like women AF pilots - they could fly and have successful careers... but it didn't have the cachet of being COMBAT pilots, FIGHTER pilots. So they had to fight to get in there to validate their 'equality.'Posted by: GWB at July 18, 2024 07:03 PM (ZDbWb)
515 DEI is to the USSS as “our precious democracy” is to the constitutional republic.Posted by: Advo at July 18, 2024 07:08 PM (jO4mz)
516 "Appalled by some of the criticism."
That's nice.
I was appalled by the short, fat female agent who couldn't find her fucking holster. And the one fumbling with her glasses. And the one looking nervous.
One of the female agents seemed to have her shit together. All of the male agents did.Posted by: El Mariachi at July 18, 2024 07:29 PM (nLFEI)
517 When talent, skill, intelligence, competence, and talent count, you're a racist. When you substitute race, gender, religion, and wokeness your DEI.
America was made great by merit and work not by Marxist virtues.
Go away if you worship at the altar of communism.
Posted by: Jane at July 18, 2024 09:18 PM (bXvrr)
518 "As an elite law enforcement agency, all of our agents and officers are highly trained and fully capable of performing our missions."
Well, they didn't. If, as you say, they were fully capable, does that mean they were unwilling?Posted by: DaveL at July 18, 2024 09:50 PM (KUwsX)
519 " The photo shows the agent crouching near -- but not part of -- a huddle of other agents covering Trump's body."
The photo actually shows her hiding BEHIND Trump and his security huddle.
But I suppose when you describe an assassination attempt as a loud noise or a fall, the bar for accuracy is pretty low.Posted by: LordAzrael at July 18, 2024 11:06 PM (j1las)
520 They need to follow what the unvarnished after action reports tell them. Good leaders learn, adapt and overcome. Poor leaders make excuses and blame others. Clearly these folks are poor leaders and poorly led. Time for a change.Posted by: Alfred at July 19, 2024 07:33 AM (b6c/x)
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