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Wednesday Morning Rant
Gross incompetence is compounded by attitude and institutional opposition, and there is certainly a lot of bad attitude and opposition directed at Trump. Congressman Bennie Thompson (D-MS) decided to pull a publicity stunt by floating a bill to strip Trump of Secret Service protection. That was not going to happen, but it does help expose the the Party and the government attitude about things. They denied Secret Service protection to outsider candidate RFK, Jr. altogether - until a couple of days ago, when that became too petty to sustain in the post-attempt environment.
Institutional priorities were also potentially a factor. Susan Crabtree of RealClearPolitics reported via X that Trump's regular detail was both small and overworked due to his travel schedule and that members of Trump's regular Secret Service detail were reassigned to cover Jill Biden's event in nearby Pittsburgh the same day and the net result of both was lots of last-minute substitutions to cover the Trump rally. The Secret Service has denied both of these claims and per LegalInsurrection, some of the substitutions may have been incompetent augmentation due to an Iranian threat. One thing remains true, however: Trump's Secret Service detail at the RNC was a lot bigger and a lot maler than it was in Butler. Hatred and indifference aside, competence is clearly a factor, as it is everywhere. Diminutive women aren't going to be able to shove around a large and potentially uncooperative man if needed. It was a needed, and they failed. Had there been a second shooter, Trump would have provided an opportunity to finish the job when he popped back up from behind the lectern, and the Secret Service was physically incapable of keeping him down and covered. Those agents shouldn't have been there in that role, but believing that - much less saying it out loud - is too politically incorrect to contemplate. The other details leaking out over the past several days are just as bad as surrounding the frontrunner with incompetent DEI hires. "That roof was kinda steep and that's risky" is a hell of a take, but that's what we got from the DEI hire in charge of the Secret Service. There were agents inside the obvious sniper position, but not on top of it. Apparently, it was also too hot. Not for the assassin. Many people actively disbelieve the "it was too steep, so we didn't bother" explanation, but there may well be at least a kernel of truth in it. Protocol and "safety" take precedence over thought and action every time. It is central to the accountability avoidance system that defines officialdom. So was it an "op?" I have no idea, but I kind of don't think so. I think the Secret Service - and the government more broadly - doesn't like Trump and wants him dead, but that is not quite the same thing as thinking that they actively conspired in a plot to kill him. That attitude, however, combined with incompetence at all levels from DEI to rampant "safteyism" and box-ticking, ensures negative outcomes. You don't need a conspiracy when the institutional players are a toxic brew of dumb and hateful.Comments
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Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 17, 2024 11:00 AM (v6JzV)
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Willowed, relevant:
Johnson just claimed that he’s hearing rumors Mayorkas won’t allow Cheatle to testify next week.
Nothing to see here, move along.
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at July 17, 2024 10:52 AM (Y8lzz)
It wouldn't surprise me at all. There is no way good news will break about any of this. Worst-case scenario ("it was an op") or not, there is no way for anyone to walk away from this looking good.
Johnson just claimed that he’s hearing rumors Mayorkas won’t allow Cheatle to testify next week.
Nothing to see here, move along.
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at July 17, 2024 10:52 AM (Y8lzz)
It wouldn't surprise me at all. There is no way good news will break about any of this. Worst-case scenario ("it was an op") or not, there is no way for anyone to walk away from this looking good.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:01 AM (HnUIn)
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Morning.
Posted by: Robert at July 17, 2024 11:01 AM (1Yy3c)
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Otter status: Culled.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 17, 2024 11:01 AM (v6JzV)
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I don't think they were in on a plot but I do think they didn't try to stop it from happening...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2024 11:01 AM (IyPmt)
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Corgis have been called.
Posted by: Robert at July 17, 2024 11:01 AM (1Yy3c)
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Hatred and indifference aside, competence is clearly a factor, as it is everywhere.
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Elevating the incompetent for years and decades has an effect.
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Elevating the incompetent for years and decades has an effect.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:02 AM (GBKbO)
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Commenting present
Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2024 11:02 AM (TQKdg)
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The USSS op stinks more by the hour.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, deplorable clown at July 17, 2024 11:02 AM (qZEuM)
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As a proper F-U: Trumps first day in office, he needs to reassign the ‘D-team’ USSS agents to Biden/Obama/Pelosi/et-al.
Posted by: Anon at July 17, 2024 11:03 AM (iauIu)
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You recall Steve Bannon's motto "Next man up"?
Antifa also uses that.
Be very vigilant.
They're not done with DJT.
Antifa also uses that.
Be very vigilant.
They're not done with DJT.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 17, 2024 11:03 AM (MeG8a)
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Protocol and "safety" take precedence over thought and action every time.
and tell you a woman was probably in charge
and tell you a woman was probably in charge
Posted by: brak at July 17, 2024 11:03 AM (25k9m)
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Mayorkas and Cheatle should both work for Fauci.
Posted by: BignJames at July 17, 2024 11:03 AM (AwYPR)
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Elevating the incompetent for years and decades has an effect.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:02 AM (GBKbO)
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Yes, it does. We're stewing in it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:02 AM (GBKbO)
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Yes, it does. We're stewing in it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:03 AM (HnUIn)
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Its are really good thing we have the FBI investigating. Pretty sure they won't have any real information until November.
Posted by: Pudinhead at July 17, 2024 11:03 AM (n17eQ)
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Johnson just claimed that he’s hearing rumors Mayorkas won’t allow Cheatle to testify next week.
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Continuing from last thread. What no one has said, is that part of the issue is the natural consequence of moving the Secret Service from Treasury to the newly made DHS.
Actually, creating the DHS was the big mistake.
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Continuing from last thread. What no one has said, is that part of the issue is the natural consequence of moving the Secret Service from Treasury to the newly made DHS.
Actually, creating the DHS was the big mistake.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 17, 2024 11:03 AM (sX1BW)
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So was it an "op?" I have no idea, but I kind of don't think so. I think the Secret Service - and the government more broadly - doesn't like Trump and wants him dead, but that is not quite the same thing as thinking that they actively conspired in a plot to kill him. That attitude, however, combined with incompetence at all levels from DEI to rampant "safteyism" and box-ticking, ensures negative outcomes.
You don't need a conspiracy when the institutional players are a toxic brew of dumb and hateful.
I have nothing to add.
You don't need a conspiracy when the institutional players are a toxic brew of dumb and hateful.
I have nothing to add.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2024 11:04 AM (xCA6C)
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I said this yesterday:
They refused to release J6 footage from inside the Capitol because it would threaten national security.
And yet, they'll admit that moderately pitched roofs are fair game for whomever.
They refused to release J6 footage from inside the Capitol because it would threaten national security.
And yet, they'll admit that moderately pitched roofs are fair game for whomever.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 17, 2024 11:04 AM (KbCG3)
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I think my favorite (blackly comedic) aspect of the whole thing is people defending Melissa McCarthy agent.
"She tried so hard and meant it!"
But she was not up for the job and was terrible at it. So, yes, making fun of her for it is fine.
"She tried so hard and meant it!"
But she was not up for the job and was terrible at it. So, yes, making fun of her for it is fine.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:04 AM (GBKbO)
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"he needs to reassign the ‘D-team’ USSS agents to Biden/Obama/Pelosi/et-al."
GOP will impeach him for this.
GOP will impeach him for this.
Posted by: Ribbed at July 17, 2024 11:04 AM (Ectld)
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Y'all know where I stand. Weaponized incompetence.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez fuck cancer at July 17, 2024 11:04 AM (OUMaO)
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Doesn't the USSS realize that Trump isn't even a quality candidate?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:05 AM (GBKbO)
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Move USSS back to Treasury. Eliminate DHS.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 17, 2024 11:05 AM (sX1BW)
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So far 3 local politicos/personages have been canned due to their social media posts right after the assassination try.
I expect there are more to come.
I expect there are more to come.
Posted by: kallisto at July 17, 2024 11:05 AM (dCxaZ)
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and tell you a woman was probably in charge
Posted by: brak at July 17, 2024 11:03 AM (25k9m)
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It predates Cheatle. It's more about dodging accountability and liability, I suspect. "Safetyism" and box-ticking really moved into full swing in the 80s, before female executives were seen as their own reward.
Posted by: brak at July 17, 2024 11:03 AM (25k9m)
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It predates Cheatle. It's more about dodging accountability and liability, I suspect. "Safetyism" and box-ticking really moved into full swing in the 80s, before female executives were seen as their own reward.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:05 AM (HnUIn)
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23 Move USSS back to Treasury. Eliminate DHS.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 17, 2024 11:05 AM (sX1BW)
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Those eligible for protection are given a budget to hire their own protection.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 17, 2024 11:05 AM (sX1BW)
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Those eligible for protection are given a budget to hire their own protection.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:05 AM (GBKbO)
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"But she was not up for the job and was terrible at it. So, yes, making fun of her for it is fine."
She also probably went her whole life trying to prove she could because she was a woman and all the men were out to get her.
She also probably went her whole life trying to prove she could because she was a woman and all the men were out to get her.
Posted by: Ribbed at July 17, 2024 11:05 AM (Ectld)
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Some more interesting facts:
Somebody shorted a whole lot of Truth Social stock in the week before the assassination attempt.
In his interview with Lester Holt, Biden said he was in the Situation Room on Saturday.
Biden normally spends his weekends in Delaware, of course.
Precisely when did Biden fly back to DC - was it before the shooting or after the shooting?
Somebody shorted a whole lot of Truth Social stock in the week before the assassination attempt.
In his interview with Lester Holt, Biden said he was in the Situation Room on Saturday.
Biden normally spends his weekends in Delaware, of course.
Precisely when did Biden fly back to DC - was it before the shooting or after the shooting?
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 17, 2024 11:05 AM (uxCna)
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One last comment on people changing: Brandon Starka tweeted out how frustrated he is with trying to bring new people into the party. He said that Amber Rose gave her WalkAway speech and folks were dissing her for her past.
Starka got jail time on a J6 charge, even thought he was not at the Capitol.
Starka got jail time on a J6 charge, even thought he was not at the Capitol.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 17, 2024 11:05 AM (xjTDL)
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19 I think my favorite (blackly comedic) aspect of the whole thing is people defending Melissa McCarthy agent.
"She tried so hard and meant it!"
But she was not up for the job and was terrible at it. So, yes, making fun of her for it is fine.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:04 AM (GBKbO)
You signed up for a job with absolutely zero margin of error.
When there's error, holy hell must be reigned down upon you.
"She tried so hard and meant it!"
But she was not up for the job and was terrible at it. So, yes, making fun of her for it is fine.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:04 AM (GBKbO)
You signed up for a job with absolutely zero margin of error.
When there's error, holy hell must be reigned down upon you.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 17, 2024 11:06 AM (KbCG3)
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You know what we really need?
A blue ribbon commission to look into the Trump investigation. Headed by an impartial Chief Justice like John Roberts.
A blue ribbon commission to look into the Trump investigation. Headed by an impartial Chief Justice like John Roberts.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 17, 2024 11:06 AM (Q0kLU)
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"Gross incompetence is compounded by attitude and institutional opposition"
Today, this is called Diversity, Equity and Inclusion.
Today, this is called Diversity, Equity and Inclusion.
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at July 17, 2024 11:06 AM (m0WlR)
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I think my favorite (blackly comedic) aspect of the whole thing is people defending Melissa McCarthy agent.
"She tried so hard and meant it!"
But she was not up for the job and was terrible at it. So, yes, making fun of her for it is fine.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:04 AM (GBKbO)
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You'll get nothing if you don't try.
Trying doesn't mean you get anything, though. Effort ain't enough.
Life's a bitch. Sorry.
"She tried so hard and meant it!"
But she was not up for the job and was terrible at it. So, yes, making fun of her for it is fine.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:04 AM (GBKbO)
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You'll get nothing if you don't try.
Trying doesn't mean you get anything, though. Effort ain't enough.
Life's a bitch. Sorry.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:06 AM (HnUIn)
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This entire thread boils down to "they weren't trying to get pregnant ... they just weren't trying no to."
Posted by: The Way It Is at July 17, 2024 11:07 AM (nfVOJ)
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23 Move USSS back to Treasury. Eliminate DHS.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 17, 2024 11:05 AM (sX1BW)
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Those eligible for protection are given a budget to hire their own protection.
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Can we still eliminate the DHS?
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 17, 2024 11:05 AM (sX1BW)
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Those eligible for protection are given a budget to hire their own protection.
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Can we still eliminate the DHS?
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 17, 2024 11:07 AM (sX1BW)
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Doesn't the USSS realize that Trump isn't even a quality candidate?
zing!
When I saw the overhead view of the scene, I was stunned that anyone in Trump's camp approved the placement of that stage, within easy range and clear sight line. The investigation needs to start with Trump's campaign staff.
zing!
When I saw the overhead view of the scene, I was stunned that anyone in Trump's camp approved the placement of that stage, within easy range and clear sight line. The investigation needs to start with Trump's campaign staff.
Posted by: kallisto at July 17, 2024 11:07 AM (dCxaZ)
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So the debate I'm seeing is whether Libs of Tik Tok, et al should ease up on publicizing the deranged rantings of maniac liberals. As a result, some of these lunatics are losing jobs, clients, etc.
Don't we owe it to the public at large, and to employers and customers, to reveal the beliefs of these individuals? In my own life, I knowingly will not engage someone of that ilk.
Don't we owe it to the public at large, and to employers and customers, to reveal the beliefs of these individuals? In my own life, I knowingly will not engage someone of that ilk.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 17, 2024 11:07 AM (YIxO9)
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It could have beelighten security and let's see what happens
But I doubt we will ever know especially if it's the Eff Bee Eye on the case.
But I doubt we will ever know especially if it's the Eff Bee Eye on the case.
Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2024 11:07 AM (TQKdg)
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Sidebar article about Cape Cod is paywalled
Posted by: Doof at July 17, 2024 11:07 AM (RhGG0)
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You don't need a conspiracy when the institutional players are a toxic brew of dumb and hateful.
Sounds about right.
Sounds about right.
Posted by: Robert at July 17, 2024 11:07 AM (1Yy3c)
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Move USSS back to Treasury. Eliminate DHS.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 17, 2024 11:05 AM (sX1BW)
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DHS was probably the worse thing Bush 43 did. Worse than "No Child Left Behind," worse than Medicare Part D, worse than the "Bush Bucks" helicopter drops of cash in the run-up to the financial crisis, worse than "hearts and minds."
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 17, 2024 11:05 AM (sX1BW)
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DHS was probably the worse thing Bush 43 did. Worse than "No Child Left Behind," worse than Medicare Part D, worse than the "Bush Bucks" helicopter drops of cash in the run-up to the financial crisis, worse than "hearts and minds."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:08 AM (HnUIn)
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You'll get nothing if you don't try.
Trying doesn't mean you get anything, though. Effort ain't enough.
Life's a bitch. Sorry.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:06 AM (HnUIn)
Looks like she tried everything but working out.
Trying doesn't mean you get anything, though. Effort ain't enough.
Life's a bitch. Sorry.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:06 AM (HnUIn)
Looks like she tried everything but working out.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 17, 2024 11:08 AM (KbCG3)
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I'm just afraid someone is gonna try and finish the job
Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2024 11:08 AM (IyPmt)
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28. He flew back early Saturday night.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 17, 2024 11:08 AM (Lj4sw)
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DHS was probably the worse thing Bush 43 did. Worse than "No Child Left Behind," worse than Medicare Part D, worse than the "Bush Bucks" helicopter drops of cash in the run-up to the financial crisis, worse than "hearts and minds."
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You forgot the light bulb ban and McCain Feingold.
Let's be honest, his list is long.
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You forgot the light bulb ban and McCain Feingold.
Let's be honest, his list is long.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 17, 2024 11:08 AM (sX1BW)
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This entire thread boils down to "they weren't trying to get pregnant ... they just weren't trying no to."
Posted by: The Way It Is at July 17, 2024 11:07 AM (nfVOJ)
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That's a decent summary of how I'm looking at it, yeah.
Nicely done.
Posted by: The Way It Is at July 17, 2024 11:07 AM (nfVOJ)
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That's a decent summary of how I'm looking at it, yeah.
Nicely done.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:09 AM (HnUIn)
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He said that Amber Rose gave her WalkAway speech and folks were dissing her for her past.
the commentariat on this blog alone is easily 50% former libs/dems
people change, nobody stays stuck in time like a cemetery headstone ffs
the commentariat on this blog alone is easily 50% former libs/dems
people change, nobody stays stuck in time like a cemetery headstone ffs
Posted by: kallisto at July 17, 2024 11:09 AM (dCxaZ)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 17, 2024 11:09 AM (YIxO9)
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All I hope is that there are a LOT of firings within the first week of the new administration.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 17, 2024 11:09 AM (99eI0)
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You forgot the light bulb ban and McCain Feingold.
Let's be honest, his list is long.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 17, 2024 11:08 AM (sX1BW)
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Yeah, I forgot those two, for sure. And the airline bailout. And the first Detroit bailouts.
Ugh.
Let's be honest, his list is long.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 17, 2024 11:08 AM (sX1BW)
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Yeah, I forgot those two, for sure. And the airline bailout. And the first Detroit bailouts.
Ugh.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:09 AM (HnUIn)
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DHS was probably the worse thing Bush 43 did.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
"Department of Homeland Security" -- even the name is creepy. What's with this "Homeland" stuff?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
"Department of Homeland Security" -- even the name is creepy. What's with this "Homeland" stuff?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 17, 2024 11:10 AM (v6JzV)
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Haven't heard much about Trump's own, personal security. What's up with that? If I were on that team I would be telling the Secret Service to take a knee.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 17, 2024 11:10 AM (Q4IgG)
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Now that the EffBeeEye is on the case...evidence showing any goviement malice as to "incompetence" will be destroyed. Top men...errr wimmins too!
Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at July 17, 2024 11:10 AM (K861k)
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Diminutive women aren't going to be able to shove around a large and potentially uncooperative man if needed. It was a needed, and they failed. Had there been a second shooter, Trump would have provided an opportunity to finish the job when he popped back up from behind the lectern, and the Secret Service was physically incapable of keeping him down and covered.
I don't think that's quite what happened, or how it's supposed to happen. If you listen to the audio, the agents are talking with Trump about each action they're going to take, and eventually Trump is the one telling them to wait...first for him to get his shoe, and then for his fist pump.
Ultimately, I don't know where responsibilities and authorities begin and end, but if Trump says "wait, hold on", I don't know if the Secret Service will move him against his will. Even with the shoe thing, they didn't try to force him...they just started saying he needed to move regardless.
I don't think that's quite what happened, or how it's supposed to happen. If you listen to the audio, the agents are talking with Trump about each action they're going to take, and eventually Trump is the one telling them to wait...first for him to get his shoe, and then for his fist pump.
Ultimately, I don't know where responsibilities and authorities begin and end, but if Trump says "wait, hold on", I don't know if the Secret Service will move him against his will. Even with the shoe thing, they didn't try to force him...they just started saying he needed to move regardless.
Posted by: Military Moron at July 17, 2024 11:10 AM (JCZqz)
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35 Those eligible for protection are given a budget to hire their own protection.
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Can we still eliminate the DHS?
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 17, 2024 11:07 AM (sX1BW)
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Is it mentioned in the constitution?
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Can we still eliminate the DHS?
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 17, 2024 11:07 AM (sX1BW)
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Is it mentioned in the constitution?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:10 AM (GBKbO)
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Sorry, I was going to ask about where's W and the rest of the Bush mafia and blanked out.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 17, 2024 11:10 AM (YIxO9)
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"Department of Homeland Security" -- even the name is creepy. What's with this "Homeland" stuff?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 17, 2024 11:10 AM (v6JzV)
Sounds sort of Hitlery....
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 17, 2024 11:10 AM (v6JzV)
Sounds sort of Hitlery....
Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2024 11:10 AM (IyPmt)
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DHS was probably the worse thing Bush 43 did. Worse than "No Child Left Behind," worse than Medicare Part D, worse than the "Bush Bucks" helicopter drops of cash in the run-up to the financial crisis, worse than "hearts and minds."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
The entire PATRIOT (spit) Act. Talk about things I've lived to regret supporting...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
The entire PATRIOT (spit) Act. Talk about things I've lived to regret supporting...
Posted by: Brother Tim sez fuck cancer at July 17, 2024 11:10 AM (OUMaO)
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"Department of Homeland Security" -- even the name is creepy. What's with this "Homeland" stuff?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 17, 2024 11:10 AM (v6JzV)
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"Motherland" and "Fatherland" are too divisive.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 17, 2024 11:10 AM (v6JzV)
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"Motherland" and "Fatherland" are too divisive.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:10 AM (HnUIn)
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Sidebar article about Cape Cod is paywalled
Posted by: Doof at July 17, 2024 11:07 AM (RhGG0)
Use 12ft.io to get around it.
Posted by: Doof at July 17, 2024 11:07 AM (RhGG0)
Use 12ft.io to get around it.
Posted by: Robert at July 17, 2024 11:10 AM (1Yy3c)
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Things Bush did well:
- Gave a cool speech with a bullhorn after 9/11
- Threw a strike at WS
- Justice Alito - after almost blowing that completely
That's about it.
- Gave a cool speech with a bullhorn after 9/11
- Threw a strike at WS
- Justice Alito - after almost blowing that completely
That's about it.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 17, 2024 11:11 AM (sX1BW)
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Posted by: kallisto at July 17, 2024 11:05 AM (dCxaZ
Even if a person supported the assassination of Donald Trump- and of course I think that’s heinous- and I wouldn’t support the assassination of Joe Biden either - doesn’t it occur to anyone of these people that there might be folks reading their social media who would disagree? I mean one guy hung ho on killing Trump was an English professor at a RC college. These people in their bubbles are not very bright,
Even if a person supported the assassination of Donald Trump- and of course I think that’s heinous- and I wouldn’t support the assassination of Joe Biden either - doesn’t it occur to anyone of these people that there might be folks reading their social media who would disagree? I mean one guy hung ho on killing Trump was an English professor at a RC college. These people in their bubbles are not very bright,
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2024 11:11 AM (n+prZ)
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The VP pick typically addresses the weaknesses of the candidate, and is so expected to be the nay-smith.
After the attempt on his life, I would like Trump to make a clone of himself to make VP.
JD Vance pisses off the right people, and he reads a lot of the people that I read. He isn't a member of the Horde AFAIK but he will do nicely.
After the attempt on his life, I would like Trump to make a clone of himself to make VP.
JD Vance pisses off the right people, and he reads a lot of the people that I read. He isn't a member of the Horde AFAIK but he will do nicely.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 17, 2024 11:11 AM (cf/0E)
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Speaking of failure, WDW Pro and his panel rated the final episode of DEIsney's "Acolyte". They rated it as a 0.4/10.
One guy sorta slipped and said Crooks made a better effort than DEIsney. WDW Pro freaked out a little, lol.
One guy sorta slipped and said Crooks made a better effort than DEIsney. WDW Pro freaked out a little, lol.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 17, 2024 11:11 AM (ufFY8)
Posted by: Ribbed at July 17, 2024 11:11 AM (Ectld)
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The only things that Shrub did that I approve of were Stuxnet (on which he collaborated with the Israelis) and the appointment of Alito to SCOTUS.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 17, 2024 11:11 AM (v6JzV)
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Anti-conspiracy people are why this keeps happening.
Secret service lady lies into the camera about the roof.
"Incompetance", OK.
Secret service lady lies into the camera about the roof.
"Incompetance", OK.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at July 17, 2024 11:11 AM (Z8Yh2)
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37 So the debate I'm seeing is whether Libs of Tik Tok, et al should ease up on publicizing the deranged rantings of maniac liberals. As a result, some of these lunatics are losing jobs, clients, etc.
Don't we owe it to the public at large, and to employers and customers, to reveal the beliefs of these individuals? In my own life, I knowingly will not engage someone of that ilk.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 17, 2024 11:07 AM (YIxO9)
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The whole, "We're dedicated to free speech so much that we allow our side to get punished because hiring and firing is speech but we can't use it against the other side because their speech is protected" thing has to end at some point.
It could end with both sides agreeing to stand down, but if the other side won't stand down, well, time to actually fight the fight.
Don't we owe it to the public at large, and to employers and customers, to reveal the beliefs of these individuals? In my own life, I knowingly will not engage someone of that ilk.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 17, 2024 11:07 AM (YIxO9)
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The whole, "We're dedicated to free speech so much that we allow our side to get punished because hiring and firing is speech but we can't use it against the other side because their speech is protected" thing has to end at some point.
It could end with both sides agreeing to stand down, but if the other side won't stand down, well, time to actually fight the fight.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:11 AM (GBKbO)
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Sorry, but you need to catch up. For the rest of the country this is quickly becoming a "Epstein didn't kill himself" type of phenomenon. Just look at two headlines from this morning's report":
"Biden’s Team Deliberately Kneecapped Trump’s Security To Allow An Assassination Attempt" on thefederalist.com
and
"The Official Story On Trump’s Shooting Makes No Sense At All"
They don't sat so in their headlines, but in the text it's pretty obvious what they're pointing out - the shooter was undoubtedly dispatched by the same cabal that intentionally created the security vulnerability. It was a political assassination attempt orchestrated by the White House, plain and simple, and it could hardly be more obvious.
While you're at it, read that Breitbart article where a retired sniper and security expert talks about it.
Wake up!
"Biden’s Team Deliberately Kneecapped Trump’s Security To Allow An Assassination Attempt" on thefederalist.com
and
"The Official Story On Trump’s Shooting Makes No Sense At All"
They don't sat so in their headlines, but in the text it's pretty obvious what they're pointing out - the shooter was undoubtedly dispatched by the same cabal that intentionally created the security vulnerability. It was a political assassination attempt orchestrated by the White House, plain and simple, and it could hardly be more obvious.
While you're at it, read that Breitbart article where a retired sniper and security expert talks about it.
Wake up!
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 17, 2024 11:11 AM (hOOi9)
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"Department of Homeland Security" -- even the name is creepy. What's with this "Homeland" stuff?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 17, 2024 11:10 AM (v6JzV)
Polled/Focus grouped better than "Fatherland".
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 17, 2024 11:10 AM (v6JzV)
Polled/Focus grouped better than "Fatherland".
Posted by: BignJames at July 17, 2024 11:12 AM (AwYPR)
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Actually, creating the DHS was the big mistake.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 17, 2024 11:03 AM (sX1BW)
Absolutely!!
Gut that 3 letter agency. Put the Coast Guard back under DoD. End the TSA.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 17, 2024 11:03 AM (sX1BW)
Absolutely!!
Gut that 3 letter agency. Put the Coast Guard back under DoD. End the TSA.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 17, 2024 11:12 AM (N39Ws)
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I don't think that's quite what happened, or how it's supposed to happen. If you listen to the audio, the agents are talking with Trump about each action they're going to take, and eventually Trump is the one telling them to wait...first for him to get his shoe, and then for his fist pump.
Ultimately, I don't know where responsibilities and authorities begin and end, but if Trump says "wait, hold on", I don't know if the Secret Service will move him against his will. Even with the shoe thing, they didn't try to force him...they just started saying he needed to move regardless.
Posted by: Military Moron at July 17, 2024 11:10 AM (JCZqz)
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Possible, yeah. This is one of those things that might come out in the coming weeks. My interpretation of what I saw in the video is that Trump hit the deck, the Secret Service rushed over to cover him, then he popped back up pretty quickly. It struck me as reckless, and probably not what was supposed to happen.
But I'm not a body guard and don't know for sure. I should have been clearer about that in the post.
Ultimately, I don't know where responsibilities and authorities begin and end, but if Trump says "wait, hold on", I don't know if the Secret Service will move him against his will. Even with the shoe thing, they didn't try to force him...they just started saying he needed to move regardless.
Posted by: Military Moron at July 17, 2024 11:10 AM (JCZqz)
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Possible, yeah. This is one of those things that might come out in the coming weeks. My interpretation of what I saw in the video is that Trump hit the deck, the Secret Service rushed over to cover him, then he popped back up pretty quickly. It struck me as reckless, and probably not what was supposed to happen.
But I'm not a body guard and don't know for sure. I should have been clearer about that in the post.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:12 AM (HnUIn)
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If I were Trump the first time the "Patriot Act" came up again I would veto it.
I was blown away he signed it ever.
That is one law that needs to die.
I was blown away he signed it ever.
That is one law that needs to die.
Posted by: Reforger at July 17, 2024 11:13 AM (xcIvR)
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42 You'll get nothing if you don't try.
Trying doesn't mean you get anything, though. Effort ain't enough.
Life's a bitch. Sorry.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:06 AM (HnUIn)
Looks like she tried everything but working out.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer
I'm certain there are other roles she would qualify for. Protecting a 6'2 man isn't one of them. She was set up to fail by the very people who put her there. Gross incompetence? Or purposeful negligence?
Trying doesn't mean you get anything, though. Effort ain't enough.
Life's a bitch. Sorry.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:06 AM (HnUIn)
Looks like she tried everything but working out.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer
I'm certain there are other roles she would qualify for. Protecting a 6'2 man isn't one of them. She was set up to fail by the very people who put her there. Gross incompetence? Or purposeful negligence?
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 17, 2024 11:13 AM (5jVsn)
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At the barest of minimums this was a "Let it Happen" operation. That is the starting point.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2024 11:13 AM (QlxXp)
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Gut that 3 letter agency. Put the Coast Guard back under DoD. End the TSA.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
Actually, Coast Guard used to be under Treasury, except in time of war, when it went under DoD.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
Actually, Coast Guard used to be under Treasury, except in time of war, when it went under DoD.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 17, 2024 11:14 AM (v6JzV)
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Don Jr. this morning said on Fox he no longer has a SS detail but that many are his friends and they shoot together. He also said if any of them were told it was too dangerous to go up on a sloped roof, they would have laughed at the idea.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 17, 2024 11:14 AM (Lj4sw)
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74 I'm certain there are other roles she would qualify for. Protecting a 6'2 man isn't one of them. She was set up to fail by the very people who put her there. Gross incompetence? Or purposeful negligence?
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 17, 2024 11:13 AM (5jVsn)
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She might be really good at figuring out counterfeit bills.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 17, 2024 11:13 AM (5jVsn)
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She might be really good at figuring out counterfeit bills.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:14 AM (GBKbO)
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75 At the barest of minimums this was a "Let it Happen" operation. That is the starting point.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2024 11:13 AM (QlxXp)
That's where I am in this....
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2024 11:13 AM (QlxXp)
That's where I am in this....
Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2024 11:14 AM (IyPmt)
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The whole, "We're dedicated to free speech so much that we allow our side to get punished because hiring and firing is speech but we can't use it against the other side because their speech is protected" thing has to end at some point.
It could end with both sides agreeing to stand down, but if the other side won't stand down, well, time to actually fight the fight.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:11 AM (GBKbO)
If the left had spent even a second defending a freaking rodeo clown wearing an Obama mask, I might have a smidgen of sympathy.
This is the world they created for all of us. I'm not sorry to see they're finding out that it's not their bubble.
It could end with both sides agreeing to stand down, but if the other side won't stand down, well, time to actually fight the fight.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:11 AM (GBKbO)
If the left had spent even a second defending a freaking rodeo clown wearing an Obama mask, I might have a smidgen of sympathy.
This is the world they created for all of us. I'm not sorry to see they're finding out that it's not their bubble.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 17, 2024 11:14 AM (KbCG3)
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I mentioned Vance yesterday and how he may turn off Boomers. They've already started on him being so young and therefore not completely enraptured with the principles of Social Security.
If he's like anyone not of Boomer stock, he rightly looks at social security/Medicare as just another tax line item on the paycheck and has 0 expectation of receiving either benefit upon retirement at 86, but to the Boomer it's sacrosanct and the highest sacrament.
If he's like anyone not of Boomer stock, he rightly looks at social security/Medicare as just another tax line item on the paycheck and has 0 expectation of receiving either benefit upon retirement at 86, but to the Boomer it's sacrosanct and the highest sacrament.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 17, 2024 11:14 AM (YIxO9)
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Even prior to the shit show Saturday, my sense was Americans have had their fill of Didn’t Earn It.
“Crisis of Competence” is incorporated into our lives now, whether they screw up our cable or grocery order all the way up to protecting the leader of the free world.
Meritocracy is a dirty word on the left, but only because they are filled with low frequency people selected on political reliability, not technical proficiency. They view people as interchangeable meat sticks, that must adhere to strict percentages or whatever.
Meritocracy is among the many things that are REQUIRED to have a functional society. There is no way around this.
“Crisis of Competence” is incorporated into our lives now, whether they screw up our cable or grocery order all the way up to protecting the leader of the free world.
Meritocracy is a dirty word on the left, but only because they are filled with low frequency people selected on political reliability, not technical proficiency. They view people as interchangeable meat sticks, that must adhere to strict percentages or whatever.
Meritocracy is among the many things that are REQUIRED to have a functional society. There is no way around this.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2024 11:15 AM (u/QE9)
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More interesting facts:
Trump's Butler rally was announced on July 3rd, ten days before the rally.
https://tinyurl.com/tjjjazm8
Jill Biden's simultaneous appearance in Pittsburgh, which drew Secret Service resources away from Trump, was scheduled only three days before the rally.
https://tinyurl.com/muupkypk
They scheduled DOCTOR Jill's appearance in Western Pennsylvania a week after they knew that Trump would be appearing in Western Pennsylvania at the same time.
Trump's Butler rally was announced on July 3rd, ten days before the rally.
https://tinyurl.com/tjjjazm8
Jill Biden's simultaneous appearance in Pittsburgh, which drew Secret Service resources away from Trump, was scheduled only three days before the rally.
https://tinyurl.com/muupkypk
They scheduled DOCTOR Jill's appearance in Western Pennsylvania a week after they knew that Trump would be appearing in Western Pennsylvania at the same time.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 17, 2024 11:15 AM (uxCna)
Posted by: Robert at July 17, 2024 11:15 AM (1Yy3c)
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"Department of Homeland Security" -- even the name is creepy. What's with this "Homeland" stuff?
Back in 90s fiction, Heartland was getting pushed pretty hard. Seems like, after the Cold War nominally ended, Hollywood turned up the Sovietaztion of naming American shit.
Back in 90s fiction, Heartland was getting pushed pretty hard. Seems like, after the Cold War nominally ended, Hollywood turned up the Sovietaztion of naming American shit.
Posted by: The Way It Is at July 17, 2024 11:15 AM (nfVOJ)
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Thx Joe. I've probably harped on this before but the "conspiracy" is right out in the open and huge, leading to these messes. It's all deconstruction as set forth by the adherents to the Marxist Frankfort school. Deconstruct the human body you get trans and cutting penises and breasts. Deconstruct intelligent energy policy and you get inefficient solar and wind and people dying. Deconstruct freedom of speech you get "disinformation" and speech codes. Put inDEI instead of merit and you get incompetence leading to collapse and assassination attempts. It's out in the open and their doing it
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2024 11:15 AM (zte34)
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[I'll repeat:] I've been arguing for some time now that he cannot trust the Secret Cervix and should have hired his own, trusted private security details for self and family.
Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 17, 2024 11:15 AM (GlEd/)
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"So the debate I'm seeing is whether Libs of Tik Tok, et al should ease up on publicizing the deranged rantings of maniac liberals. As a result, some of these lunatics are losing jobs, clients, etc."
If you are saying it in a public forum, it's so you can be heard. If you don't want people to know what you think, don't say it in a public forum. They want to kill us. We just want them to stop promoting violence and perversion against kids.
If you are saying it in a public forum, it's so you can be heard. If you don't want people to know what you think, don't say it in a public forum. They want to kill us. We just want them to stop promoting violence and perversion against kids.
Posted by: Ribbed at July 17, 2024 11:15 AM (Ectld)
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"Many people actively disbelieve the "it was too steep, so we didn't bother" explanation, but there may well be at least a kernel of truth in it."
You are too kind. These are SS agents, called upon to risk their lives to protect the president. It's naturally a dangerous job. So they're expected to jump in front of bullets, but a slightly sloped roof is too dangerous for them?
This was 100% pure malice and essentially a government plot to murder a political rival. There's no other way to say it. That spazz retard Crooks never come up with this idea, planned it, and executed it all by himself. This was a Deep State plot.
It's also no coincidence that the attempted murder happened when it did. They had 8 years to murder Trump. Why wait until now? Well . . . it happens at just the precise intersection of the moments when (1) Trump looks pretty much unstable, putting aside vote fraud, (2) Biden looks like a shambling zombie retard, and (3) it's clear that they can't get rid of Biden. Not. A. Coincidence.
You are too kind. These are SS agents, called upon to risk their lives to protect the president. It's naturally a dangerous job. So they're expected to jump in front of bullets, but a slightly sloped roof is too dangerous for them?
This was 100% pure malice and essentially a government plot to murder a political rival. There's no other way to say it. That spazz retard Crooks never come up with this idea, planned it, and executed it all by himself. This was a Deep State plot.
It's also no coincidence that the attempted murder happened when it did. They had 8 years to murder Trump. Why wait until now? Well . . . it happens at just the precise intersection of the moments when (1) Trump looks pretty much unstable, putting aside vote fraud, (2) Biden looks like a shambling zombie retard, and (3) it's clear that they can't get rid of Biden. Not. A. Coincidence.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:15 AM (iFTx/)
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We are likely to get the same investigation and transparency we got from the Vegas Shooting. Not shit, that is.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 17, 2024 11:16 AM (pohLc)
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Ultimately, I don't know where responsibilities and authorities begin and end, but if Trump says "wait, hold on", I don't know if the Secret Service will move him against his will. Even with the shoe thing, they didn't try to force him...they just started saying he needed to move regardless.
Posted by: Military Moron at July 17, 2024 11:10 AM (JCZqz)
Try to remember that he's the guy they're protecting - not somebody they've kidnapped. That should clarify things.
Posted by: Military Moron at July 17, 2024 11:10 AM (JCZqz)
Try to remember that he's the guy they're protecting - not somebody they've kidnapped. That should clarify things.
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 17, 2024 11:16 AM (hOOi9)
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A tweet from Zerohedge says Nikki Haley is lobbying Trump's people for the Secretary of State job.
Stop laughing. We're supposed to be all unified and shit.
Stop laughing. We're supposed to be all unified and shit.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 17, 2024 11:16 AM (woPEM)
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There is beginning to be too many "hey look at this!" items to be ignored. It is starting to smell like teenage boy feet.
Let's just say they do replace Biden. What does the new candidate run on? Biden's record? What they would change, thus highlighting just how lunatic the positions that the DNC favors are? Trump - "How would you change the Trans story time hour in Public Libraries?" "How many more or less illegals' should be allowed to enter ILLEGALY into America?" The Beat Down! It would be epic..
Let's just say they do replace Biden. What does the new candidate run on? Biden's record? What they would change, thus highlighting just how lunatic the positions that the DNC favors are? Trump - "How would you change the Trans story time hour in Public Libraries?" "How many more or less illegals' should be allowed to enter ILLEGALY into America?" The Beat Down! It would be epic..
Posted by: catman at July 17, 2024 11:16 AM (4HMlb)
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I think the Secret Service - and the government more broadly - doesn't like Trump and wants him dead,
Remember the bitch SS agent at the beginning of Trump's term who came out and bragged that she would never take a bullet for him? She certainly couldn't be the only one who felt that way.
but that is not quite the same thing as thinking that they actively conspired in a plot to kill him.
I can, and do, believe both. After four years of phony Russian collusion, whitewashing Scankles' server, dismissing Hunter's laptop as fake, after the myriad of charges to bankrupt Trump and put him in jail. . .
And especially after the shoot-to-kill orders given to the Mar-A-Lago raid, I absolutely believe the SS wanted and encouraged the assassination.
Remember the bitch SS agent at the beginning of Trump's term who came out and bragged that she would never take a bullet for him? She certainly couldn't be the only one who felt that way.
but that is not quite the same thing as thinking that they actively conspired in a plot to kill him.
I can, and do, believe both. After four years of phony Russian collusion, whitewashing Scankles' server, dismissing Hunter's laptop as fake, after the myriad of charges to bankrupt Trump and put him in jail. . .
And especially after the shoot-to-kill orders given to the Mar-A-Lago raid, I absolutely believe the SS wanted and encouraged the assassination.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 17, 2024 11:16 AM (Q0kLU)
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John Doyle:
if things had gone differently on Saturday then you'd be seeing these people drink out of coffee mugs with images of a murdered Donald Trump on them.
if things had gone differently on Saturday then you'd be seeing these people drink out of coffee mugs with images of a murdered Donald Trump on them.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 17, 2024 11:16 AM (cf/0E)
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92 A tweet from Zerohedge says Nikki Haley is lobbying Trump's people for the Secretary of State job.
Stop laughing. We're supposed to be all unified and shit.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 17, 2024 11:16 AM (woPEM)
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I hope he takes her to dinner.
Stop laughing. We're supposed to be all unified and shit.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 17, 2024 11:16 AM (woPEM)
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I hope he takes her to dinner.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:16 AM (GBKbO)
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They're not their, damn autocucumber
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2024 11:17 AM (zte34)
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I mentioned Vance yesterday and how he may turn off Boomers. They've already started on him being so young and therefore not completely enraptured with the principles of Social Security.
If he's like anyone not of Boomer stock, he rightly looks at social security/Medicare as just another tax line item on the paycheck and has 0 expectation of receiving either benefit upon retirement at 86, but to the Boomer it's sacrosanct and the highest sacrament.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 17, 2024 11:14 AM (YIxO9)
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The whole Social Security thing is largely a canard and it annoys me. It's a political football that doesn't need to exist. Social Security is salvageable. Medicare (well, CMS, which includes Medicaid and some other things, but it's mostly Medicare) is the whole problem, and everyone at high levels knows it. Since that is the real issue, they play with Social Security instead so that they don't have to do anything and can get cheap soundbites while the government goes bankrupt.
If he's like anyone not of Boomer stock, he rightly looks at social security/Medicare as just another tax line item on the paycheck and has 0 expectation of receiving either benefit upon retirement at 86, but to the Boomer it's sacrosanct and the highest sacrament.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 17, 2024 11:14 AM (YIxO9)
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The whole Social Security thing is largely a canard and it annoys me. It's a political football that doesn't need to exist. Social Security is salvageable. Medicare (well, CMS, which includes Medicaid and some other things, but it's mostly Medicare) is the whole problem, and everyone at high levels knows it. Since that is the real issue, they play with Social Security instead so that they don't have to do anything and can get cheap soundbites while the government goes bankrupt.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:17 AM (HnUIn)
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Now that the EffBeeEye is on the case...evidence showing any goviement malice as to "incompetence" will be destroyed. Top men...errr wimmins too!
There are pictures today showing the FBI power washing the roof down.
There are pictures today showing the FBI power washing the roof down.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 17, 2024 11:17 AM (uxCna)
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92 A tweet from Zerohedge says Nikki Haley is lobbying Trump's people for the Secretary of State job.
Stop laughing. We're supposed to be all unified and shit.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 17, 2024 11:16 AM (woPEM)
Put her back at the UN... She did a good job there
Stop laughing. We're supposed to be all unified and shit.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 17, 2024 11:16 AM (woPEM)
Put her back at the UN... She did a good job there
Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2024 11:17 AM (IyPmt)
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Amber Rose did exactly what we have been asking - research. Don’t believe the talking heads. Her eyes were opened. We should be celebrating this. Maybe she doesn’t look exactly like what we want, the forehead tattoo is definitely a thing. Maybe her background isn’t ideal. And maybe she grew up. I venture to say at least 50% of us have some questionable decisions made in our past. When people do what we ask, and it works, that is all that matters with a few notable exceptions of abuse.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2024 11:17 AM (p4NUW)
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The whole, "We're dedicated to free speech so much that we allow our side to get punished because hiring and firing is speech but we can't use it against the other side because their speech is protected" thing has to end at some point.
It could end with both sides agreeing to stand down, but if the other side won't stand down, well, time to actually fight the fight.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:11 AM (GBKbO)
We owe it to the guy who did the Trump bodyslamming CNN meme!!
It could end with both sides agreeing to stand down, but if the other side won't stand down, well, time to actually fight the fight.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:11 AM (GBKbO)
We owe it to the guy who did the Trump bodyslamming CNN meme!!
Posted by: Doof at July 17, 2024 11:17 AM (RhGG0)
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Remember the bitch SS agent at the beginning of Trump's term who came out and bragged that she would never take a bullet for him?
Probably because the f'n garden gnome wasn't tall enough.
Probably because the f'n garden gnome wasn't tall enough.
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 17, 2024 11:17 AM (f5vQ9)
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What were the penalties for the COVID operation, which killed millions.
What were the penalties for the Russia hoax.
What were the penalties for the Steal.
What were the penalties for setting up and executing January 6th.
The answer to those question will tell you what the penalties would be for doing "it".
This needs to be any reasonable person's point of beginning. Whoops whoopsie is not where this discussion starts. Not after everything they've done, covered up, and paid no price for.
What were the penalties for the COVID operation, which killed millions.
What were the penalties for the Russia hoax.
What were the penalties for the Steal.
What were the penalties for setting up and executing January 6th.
The answer to those question will tell you what the penalties would be for doing "it".
This needs to be any reasonable person's point of beginning. Whoops whoopsie is not where this discussion starts. Not after everything they've done, covered up, and paid no price for.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2024 11:17 AM (QlxXp)
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Remember the bitch SS agent at the beginning of Trump's term who came out and bragged that she would never take a bullet for him? She certainly couldn't be the only one who felt that way.
Is she still there?
Is she still there?
Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 17, 2024 11:17 AM (pohLc)
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On Call: A Doctor’s Journey in Public Service, by Anthony Fauci (Viking, 480 pp., $36)
Just how on God's good Earth could Anthony Fauci have an autobiography ?
It wasn't that long ago, he went before Congress and couldn't remember jack shit.
Just how on God's good Earth could Anthony Fauci have an autobiography ?
It wasn't that long ago, he went before Congress and couldn't remember jack shit.
Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2024 11:17 AM (RHGPo)
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Listening to Daniel John Bongino and his expletive laden rant about the Secret Service.
Listening to Daniel John Bongino and his expletive laden rant about the Secret Service.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 17, 2024 11:18 AM (RKVpM)
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The Secret Service had snipers positioned on a roof that was MORE sloped than the one from which Crooks was positioned.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at July 17, 2024 11:18 AM (qUkBO)
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Did anyone else notice the Dicknose on Ted Cruz during his RNC speech??
It was SO fucking compelling...and gross!
It was SO fucking compelling...and gross!
Posted by: Stoney Stonerton at July 17, 2024 11:18 AM (5AVMW)
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Boomer: Millennial, take this
*baton glows with sunlight*
*passes the baton*
Gen-X: I'm standing right here asshole.
*baton glows with sunlight*
*passes the baton*
Gen-X: I'm standing right here asshole.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 17, 2024 11:18 AM (cf/0E)
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Not original with me, but I recently saw Grey's Corrolary to Hanlon's Razor: "When applied to government, Hanlon's Razor should be inverted."
Posted by: Ham Biscuits at July 17, 2024 11:19 AM (UPdhb)
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Bush also called an NYT reporter an asshole. That was ok. I regret my vote for him... bigly
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at July 17, 2024 11:19 AM (1FWWQ)
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Looks like she tried everything but working out.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer
I'm certain there are other roles she would qualify for. Protecting a 6'2 man isn't one of them. She was set up to fail by the very people who put her there. Gross incompetence? Or purposeful negligence?
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 17, 2024 11:13 AM (5jVsn)
This would almost be like a Major League baseball team pulling a fan out of the stands to pitch.
At some point, she had to know she was out of her depth and in no position to be guarding someone like Trump.
But I bet you anything SS higher ups were thrilled to say that they had a woman on the team.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer
I'm certain there are other roles she would qualify for. Protecting a 6'2 man isn't one of them. She was set up to fail by the very people who put her there. Gross incompetence? Or purposeful negligence?
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 17, 2024 11:13 AM (5jVsn)
This would almost be like a Major League baseball team pulling a fan out of the stands to pitch.
At some point, she had to know she was out of her depth and in no position to be guarding someone like Trump.
But I bet you anything SS higher ups were thrilled to say that they had a woman on the team.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 17, 2024 11:19 AM (KbCG3)
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"Department of Homeland Security" -- even the name is creepy. What's with this "Homeland" stuff?
Back in 90s fiction, Heartland was getting pushed pretty hard. Seems like, after the Cold War nominally ended, Hollywood turned up the Sovietaztion of naming American s***.
They rejected the Fatherland and the Motherland (Rodina) for their...unsavory associations.
Back in 90s fiction, Heartland was getting pushed pretty hard. Seems like, after the Cold War nominally ended, Hollywood turned up the Sovietaztion of naming American s***.
They rejected the Fatherland and the Motherland (Rodina) for their...unsavory associations.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2024 11:19 AM (xCA6C)
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They scheduled DOCTOR Jill's appearance in Western Pennsylvania a week after they knew that Trump would be appearing in Western Pennsylvania at the same time.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 17, 2024 11:15 AM (uxCna)
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Well, sure. They needed a counterweight to glue some headlines to so they could offset the "Trump Rally Draws Huge Crowds in Western PA" coverage.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 17, 2024 11:15 AM (uxCna)
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Well, sure. They needed a counterweight to glue some headlines to so they could offset the "Trump Rally Draws Huge Crowds in Western PA" coverage.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:19 AM (HnUIn)
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The important thing to remember here is that all the LEO's got home safely that day.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at July 17, 2024 11:19 AM (g8Ew8)
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I think the Libs of TikTok have only scratched the surface with regards to outing the people who publicly have said they wish the shooter hadn't missed. Plus, the left has been canceling people on the right via social media for years.
There is no such thing as a truce with these people. IMO only one of two options are on the table.
YMMV
There is no such thing as a truce with these people. IMO only one of two options are on the table.
YMMV
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 17, 2024 11:19 AM (Q4IgG)
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Elevating the incompetent for years and decades has an effect.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:02 AM (GBKbO)
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Yes, it does. We're stewing in it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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I suspect that the serious deterioration began under Clinton, 1993. I do know of one SS guy who quit then. It was also obvious that the Clintons disliked the SS. Chelsea referred to them as 'Our pet pigs'.
At any rate, that would be 31 years of institutional rot.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:02 AM (GBKbO)
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Yes, it does. We're stewing in it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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I suspect that the serious deterioration began under Clinton, 1993. I do know of one SS guy who quit then. It was also obvious that the Clintons disliked the SS. Chelsea referred to them as 'Our pet pigs'.
At any rate, that would be 31 years of institutional rot.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at July 17, 2024 11:19 AM (XeU6L)
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I want to know why Jill needed increased security. No one gives a rat’s behind about her. She is a nobody who married well.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2024 11:20 AM (p4NUW)
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113 This would almost be like a Major League baseball team pulling a fan out of the stands to pitch.
At some point, she had to know she was out of her depth and in no position to be guarding someone like Trump.
But I bet you anything SS higher ups were thrilled to say that they had a woman on the team.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 17, 2024 11:19 AM (KbCG3)
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Yeah, but what if the fan is a kid named Henry Rowegooter. Rollengarter. Role...you know what I mean.
At some point, she had to know she was out of her depth and in no position to be guarding someone like Trump.
But I bet you anything SS higher ups were thrilled to say that they had a woman on the team.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 17, 2024 11:19 AM (KbCG3)
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Yeah, but what if the fan is a kid named Henry Rowegooter. Rollengarter. Role...you know what I mean.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:20 AM (GBKbO)
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I hope he takes her to dinner.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:16 AM (GBKbO)
I hope he takes her to a rally.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:16 AM (GBKbO)
I hope he takes her to a rally.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2024 11:20 AM (QlxXp)
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If I was to offer PDT advice, I would also recommend reviewing all the various "State of Emergency" declarations that are still in effect. IIANM, we are still technically under one from the 9/11 attack. Why? COVID - why?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 17, 2024 11:20 AM (N39Ws)
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I heard USSS got a supplemental funding and now staffing for Trump is identical to POTUS
Posted by: blaster at July 17, 2024 11:20 AM (xhfG9)
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>>So was it an "op?"
Again, someone needs to go ask Manchin what exactly he meant when asked about what they were going to do about Biden, he said, why don't we see how the weekend shakes out and we will have a better picture of where we're going to be.
Now I'm not saying he was in on something, but clearly their were whispers burbling through the Donk/Deep State Borg Collective. that he was hearing.
Again, someone needs to go ask Manchin what exactly he meant when asked about what they were going to do about Biden, he said, why don't we see how the weekend shakes out and we will have a better picture of where we're going to be.
Now I'm not saying he was in on something, but clearly their were whispers burbling through the Donk/Deep State Borg Collective. that he was hearing.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 17, 2024 11:21 AM (XV/Pl)
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Thx Joe. I've probably harped on this before but the "conspiracy" is right out in the open and huge, leading to these messes. It's all deconstruction as set forth by the adherents to the Marxist Frankfort school. Deconstruct the human body you get trans and cutting penises and breasts. Deconstruct intelligent energy policy and you get inefficient solar and wind and people dying. Deconstruct freedom of speech you get "disinformation" and speech codes. Put inDEI instead of merit and you get incompetence l
eading to collapse and assassination attempts. It's out in the open and their doing it
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2024 11:15 AM (zte34)
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Destruct & punish reason, rationality, and all the classic virtues -- and you get evasion of reality (delusion), insanity, and the rewarding of vice.
eading to collapse and assassination attempts. It's out in the open and their doing it
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2024 11:15 AM (zte34)
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Destruct & punish reason, rationality, and all the classic virtues -- and you get evasion of reality (delusion), insanity, and the rewarding of vice.
Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 17, 2024 11:21 AM (hC3xx)
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101 Amber Rose did exactly what we have been asking - research. Don’t believe the talking heads. Her eyes were opened. We should be celebrating this. Maybe she doesn’t look exactly like what we want, the forehead tattoo is definitely a thing. Maybe her background isn’t ideal. And maybe she grew up. I venture to say at least 50% of us have some questionable decisions made in our past. When people do what we ask, and it works, that is all that matters with a few notable exceptions of abuse.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2024 11:17 AM (p4NUW)
Every day, we sit here and ask what it will take for people to open their eyes.
Not being hostile to those that do would be a great start.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2024 11:17 AM (p4NUW)
Every day, we sit here and ask what it will take for people to open their eyes.
Not being hostile to those that do would be a great start.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 17, 2024 11:21 AM (KbCG3)
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5 I don't think they were in on a plot but I do think they didn't try to stop it from happening...
Remember the Dems running their fat yaps about 9/11?
"Did Bush LET it happen, or MAKE it happen?"
Seems like a fair question to ask about FJB - except that stupidity probably gets him off on the "make" option!
Remember the Dems running their fat yaps about 9/11?
"Did Bush LET it happen, or MAKE it happen?"
Seems like a fair question to ask about FJB - except that stupidity probably gets him off on the "make" option!
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at July 17, 2024 11:21 AM (gfztU)
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She is a nobody who married well.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2024 11:20 AM (p4NUW)
What's your point?
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2024 11:20 AM (p4NUW)
What's your point?
Posted by: Kris Jenner at July 17, 2024 11:21 AM (RhGG0)
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Boomer: Millennial, take this
*baton glows with sunlight*
*passes the baton*
Gen-X: I'm standing right here asshole.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 17, 2024 11:18 AM (cf/0E)
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Gen-X has been essentially squeezed out. It's a small generation bookended by two mega-generations, and the Millennials are looked upon with great favor by the Boomers.
As I once saw it put - very cynically - "X are kids the Boomers had, Millennials are kids the Boomers wanted."
*baton glows with sunlight*
*passes the baton*
Gen-X: I'm standing right here asshole.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 17, 2024 11:18 AM (cf/0E)
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Gen-X has been essentially squeezed out. It's a small generation bookended by two mega-generations, and the Millennials are looked upon with great favor by the Boomers.
As I once saw it put - very cynically - "X are kids the Boomers had, Millennials are kids the Boomers wanted."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:21 AM (HnUIn)
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119 I want to know why Jill needed increased security. No one gives a rat’s behind about her. She is a nobody who married well.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2024 11:20 AM (p4NUW)
Well she (thinks she) is the defactor POTUS.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2024 11:20 AM (p4NUW)
Well she (thinks she) is the defactor POTUS.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 17, 2024 11:21 AM (N39Ws)
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I venture to say at least 50% of us have some questionable decisions made in our past. When people do what we ask, and it works, that is all that matters with a few notable exceptions of abuse.
If you haven't made an mistakes in your life, you're either comatose or just too lazy to move.
If you haven't made an mistakes in your life, you're either comatose or just too lazy to move.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2024 11:21 AM (xCA6C)
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If they were smart, they would fire that chick at the USSS, she is a textbook example of Why Everything Is Fucked.
I think generally, the plan overall is to get people used to the idea of planes falling out of the sky, terrorist attacks and general anarchy; a few dead candidates, etc because the “diversity” is uber alles.
I remember some cocksucker in the Army after the Ft. Hood massacre went out and made a statement similar to “I hope this incident doesn’t impact our commitment to diversity”
Your death, before their dishonor. They are willing to fucking kill you for a delusion, or near enough.
It’s a tough needle to thread because the leftists have buggered everyone’s brain, but they need to address this 24/7
I think generally, the plan overall is to get people used to the idea of planes falling out of the sky, terrorist attacks and general anarchy; a few dead candidates, etc because the “diversity” is uber alles.
I remember some cocksucker in the Army after the Ft. Hood massacre went out and made a statement similar to “I hope this incident doesn’t impact our commitment to diversity”
Your death, before their dishonor. They are willing to fucking kill you for a delusion, or near enough.
It’s a tough needle to thread because the leftists have buggered everyone’s brain, but they need to address this 24/7
Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2024 11:21 AM (u/QE9)
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120 113 This would almost be like a Major League baseball team pulling a fan out of the stands to pitch.
At some point, she had to know she was out of her depth and in no position to be guarding someone like Trump.
But I bet you anything SS higher ups were thrilled to say that they had a woman on the team.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 17, 2024 11:19 AM (KbCG3)
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Yeah, but what if the fan is a kid named Henry Rowegooter. Rollengarter. Role...you know what I mean.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:20 AM (GBKbO)
When she fires a 100 mph fastball from the outfield stands directly into the catcher's mitt 400 feet away, then we can talk.
At some point, she had to know she was out of her depth and in no position to be guarding someone like Trump.
But I bet you anything SS higher ups were thrilled to say that they had a woman on the team.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 17, 2024 11:19 AM (KbCG3)
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Yeah, but what if the fan is a kid named Henry Rowegooter. Rollengarter. Role...you know what I mean.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:20 AM (GBKbO)
When she fires a 100 mph fastball from the outfield stands directly into the catcher's mitt 400 feet away, then we can talk.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 17, 2024 11:22 AM (KbCG3)
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Consider this: Cheatle (like Kamala) is an example of an inept diversity hire. True. But it is also true that Joe Biden isn't. And he's the most incompetent of them all. He has achieved complete and total worthlessness without the benefit of DEI. I guess that's a kind of feather in his cap.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 17, 2024 11:22 AM (1bNHn)
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It's also no coincidence that the attempted murder happened when it did. They had 8 years to murder Trump. Why wait until now? Well . . . it happens at just the precise intersection of the moments when (1) Trump looks pretty much unstable, putting aside vote fraud, (2) Biden looks like a shambling zombie retard, and (3) it's clear that they can't get rid of Biden. Not. A. Coincidence.
Posted by: Elric Blade
I'd said earlier, someone on the inside was going to panic and do something stupid. I think that's what happened here...and I think I even can guess who.
Means through connections. Motive. Opportunity.
All roads lead to Jill Biden.
Posted by: Elric Blade
I'd said earlier, someone on the inside was going to panic and do something stupid. I think that's what happened here...and I think I even can guess who.
Means through connections. Motive. Opportunity.
All roads lead to Jill Biden.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez fuck cancer at July 17, 2024 11:22 AM (OUMaO)
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... She is a nobody who married well.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2024 11:20 AM (p4NUW)
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This, too, is the story of Bill Clinton.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2024 11:20 AM (p4NUW)
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This, too, is the story of Bill Clinton.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:22 AM (HnUIn)
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90 We are likely to get the same investigation and transparency we got from the Vegas Shooting. Not shit, that is.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 17, 2024 11:16 AM (pohLc)
I got to be Governor of Nevada.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 17, 2024 11:16 AM (pohLc)
I got to be Governor of Nevada.
Posted by: Sheriff Joe L at July 17, 2024 11:22 AM (xcIvR)
Posted by: catman at July 17, 2024 11:23 AM (4HMlb)
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Just how on God's good Earth could Anthony Fauci have an autobiography ?
It wasn't that long ago, he went before Congress and couldn't remember jack shit.
Posted by: SMOD
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On his and his wife's salaries, he can afford a team of ghost-writers.
It wasn't that long ago, he went before Congress and couldn't remember jack shit.
Posted by: SMOD
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On his and his wife's salaries, he can afford a team of ghost-writers.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at July 17, 2024 11:23 AM (XeU6L)
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I will simply point out that the best possible position for an assassin was left open, and somehow a 20 year old was able to get up there, double check the range to target, and get off at least three shots.
At best, and I mean at best, this was purposely leaving an opportunity open by those in charge of security.
At best, and I mean at best, this was purposely leaving an opportunity open by those in charge of security.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 17, 2024 11:23 AM (3UZH8)
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135 It's also no coincidence that the attempted murder happened when it did. They had 8 years to murder Trump. Why wait until now? Well . . . it happens at just the precise intersection of the moments when (1) Trump looks pretty much unstable, putting aside vote fraud, (2) Biden looks like a shambling zombie retard, and (3) it's clear that they can't get rid of Biden. Not. A. Coincidence.
Posted by: Elric Blade
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Also...if he dies, the nomination goes to Haley.
Posted by: Elric Blade
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Also...if he dies, the nomination goes to Haley.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:23 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Not voting our way out at July 17, 2024 11:23 AM (fzA4x)
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Ways to increase the chances of failure:
- DEI hires
- overwork your agents
- don't give them enough time for advance work
- assign poor leaders
- staff it with the "B" team
- DEI hires
- overwork your agents
- don't give them enough time for advance work
- assign poor leaders
- staff it with the "B" team
Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at July 17, 2024 11:23 AM (aqa7Z)
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I want to know why Jill needed increased security. No one gives a rat’s behind about her. She is a nobody who married well.
Posted by: Piper
She didn't. It was a pretext to weaken the detail at a specific, critical moment.
Posted by: Piper
She didn't. It was a pretext to weaken the detail at a specific, critical moment.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez fuck cancer at July 17, 2024 11:23 AM (OUMaO)
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Did anyone else notice the Dicknose on Ted Cruz during his RNC speech??
It was SO fucking compelling...and gross!
Posted by: Stoney Stonerton at July 17, 2024 11:18 AM (5AVMW)
If you live long enough, you may also get a dick nose.
It was SO fucking compelling...and gross!
Posted by: Stoney Stonerton at July 17, 2024 11:18 AM (5AVMW)
If you live long enough, you may also get a dick nose.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at July 17, 2024 11:23 AM (g8Ew8)
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I hope he takes her to dinner.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:16 AM (GBKbO)
I hope he takes her to a rally.
She can sit next to Mitch McConnell. The booing could cover both of them; it's more efficient that way.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:16 AM (GBKbO)
I hope he takes her to a rally.
She can sit next to Mitch McConnell. The booing could cover both of them; it's more efficient that way.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2024 11:23 AM (xCA6C)
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sloped roof = grasping at straws....of course, other agency heads would buy into it.
Posted by: BignJames at July 17, 2024 11:23 AM (AwYPR)
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Call it a preemptive coup d'etat?
Posted by: Rex B at July 17, 2024 11:24 AM (5h/8D)
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"Many people actively disbelieve the "it was too steep, so we didn't bother" explanation, but there may well be at least a kernel of truth in it."
Bull shit.
Too steep for professionals, yet a twenty yr old kid can belly crawl across it.
And, and this is a HUGE and, the two counter-snipers in the picture over Trump's shoulder? The pitch on that roof was three times as much as the kid's roof.
Bull shit.
Too steep for professionals, yet a twenty yr old kid can belly crawl across it.
And, and this is a HUGE and, the two counter-snipers in the picture over Trump's shoulder? The pitch on that roof was three times as much as the kid's roof.
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 17, 2024 11:24 AM (f5vQ9)
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Constantinople stood unconquered for a thousand years, despite repeated attacks by invading armies.
Constantinople's secret?
The famed Sloped Roofs of Constantinople, which made Constantinople completely invulnerable to attack.
Invading armies occasionally would arrive next to Constantinople, see the Sloped Roofs, and would immediately surrender, knowing that attacking Constantinople was hopeless.
Constantinople's secret?
The famed Sloped Roofs of Constantinople, which made Constantinople completely invulnerable to attack.
Invading armies occasionally would arrive next to Constantinople, see the Sloped Roofs, and would immediately surrender, knowing that attacking Constantinople was hopeless.
Posted by: World History! at July 17, 2024 11:24 AM (uxCna)
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When was Jill's speech, requiring a supposed diversion of resources, scheduled? A question worth asking.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2024 11:24 AM (QlxXp)
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I have made innumerable mistakes in my life. Fortunately, I never felt the need to tattoo them across my forehead to remind me every damn morning.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 17, 2024 11:24 AM (pohLc)
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“idea of conspiracy to finally "get Trump," I don't think that's what this was”. Sigh. How long are you going to keep your head in the sand? What more do you need to disabuse yourself of this naivety?
Posted by: Ken at July 17, 2024 11:24 AM (48fb/)
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Gosh, this whole draw down of the Secret Service protection around PDT seems vaguely familiar.
Posted by: Uriah the Hittite at July 17, 2024 11:25 AM (tT6L1)
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I think the Secret Service - and the government more broadly - doesn't like Trump and wants him dead, but that is not quite the same thing as thinking that they actively conspired in a plot to kill him.
I think it's likely they would not take an active role. But they could passively fail to prevent the attempt. Same result, but they get to shrug their shoulders and say, "Oops."
I think it's likely they would not take an active role. But they could passively fail to prevent the attempt. Same result, but they get to shrug their shoulders and say, "Oops."
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 17, 2024 11:26 AM (WPL6O)
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When was Jill's speech, requiring a supposed diversion of resources, scheduled? A question worth asking.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2024 11:24 AM (QlxXp)
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Grrrlboss card trumps Trump.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2024 11:24 AM (QlxXp)
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Grrrlboss card trumps Trump.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 17, 2024 11:26 AM (tT6L1)
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Common Tater - That Rat Bastard is still breathing
Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2024 11:26 AM (TQKdg)
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Bull shit.
Too steep for professionals, yet a twenty yr old kid can belly crawl across it.
And, and this is a HUGE and, the two counter-snipers in the picture over Trump's shoulder? The pitch on that roof was three times as much as the kid's roof.
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 17, 2024 11:24 AM (f5vQ9)
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It isn't reasonable, but I can see it - even if only as a bit of after-the-fact ass covering. When something or someone fails, fall back on protocol and "safety" considerations. It's SOP.
Too steep for professionals, yet a twenty yr old kid can belly crawl across it.
And, and this is a HUGE and, the two counter-snipers in the picture over Trump's shoulder? The pitch on that roof was three times as much as the kid's roof.
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 17, 2024 11:24 AM (f5vQ9)
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It isn't reasonable, but I can see it - even if only as a bit of after-the-fact ass covering. When something or someone fails, fall back on protocol and "safety" considerations. It's SOP.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:26 AM (HnUIn)
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I think my favorite (blackly comedic) aspect of the whole thing is people defending Melissa McCarthy agent.
"She tried so hard and meant it!"
But she was not up for the job and was terrible at it. So, yes, making fun of her for it is fine.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:04 AM (GBKbO)
Mine was this... you know that photo where she appears to be hiding behind the dogpile on Trump... everyone says that she was afraid. I don't know, maybe it was her job to look for additional threats while everyone else was occupied... whatever. Anyway, the shooter was to the side of Trump, not in front, so she was all alone, looking in a direction other than the known threat, uncovered by anything. If that was her job and she did it anyway, kudos to her for having the balls to do the job even if she lacked the rest of the equipment needed.
"She tried so hard and meant it!"
But she was not up for the job and was terrible at it. So, yes, making fun of her for it is fine.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:04 AM (GBKbO)
Mine was this... you know that photo where she appears to be hiding behind the dogpile on Trump... everyone says that she was afraid. I don't know, maybe it was her job to look for additional threats while everyone else was occupied... whatever. Anyway, the shooter was to the side of Trump, not in front, so she was all alone, looking in a direction other than the known threat, uncovered by anything. If that was her job and she did it anyway, kudos to her for having the balls to do the job even if she lacked the rest of the equipment needed.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2024 11:26 AM (IUd0M)
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138 GenX - We're the black lady that Biden jumped over..
https://tinyurl.com/27sxsz5e
Posted by: catman at July 17, 2024
We are aging really well, so I guess there is that. 😂
https://tinyurl.com/27sxsz5e
Posted by: catman at July 17, 2024
We are aging really well, so I guess there is that. 😂
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2024 11:26 AM (p4NUW)
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Neocon Liz Cheney said something un-newsworthy
Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2024 11:26 AM (RHGPo)
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Let's just say they do replace Biden. What does the new candidate run on?
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"I won't fail to whack the #BadOrangeMan!"
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"I won't fail to whack the #BadOrangeMan!"
Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 17, 2024 11:26 AM (hC3xx)
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One thing's for sure. The Feds have clamped down on everything related to the assassin's pre-attempt life. I have only seen ONE interview of anyone who knew the assassin before Saturday's event. No teachers, or education-related personnel, nothing on tape. Strange. Of course the phone has been locked down by the authorities.
Barry issued a statement on the attempt before Biden did.
How big was the assassin's backpack? Apparently, that's how he carried the rifle to the rooftop. Was the backpack a "backpack" or a gun case? Was the rifle assembled as he climbed the roof, or was it a quick-assembly weapon that would be difficult to find in the general marketplace?
Barry issued a statement on the attempt before Biden did.
How big was the assassin's backpack? Apparently, that's how he carried the rifle to the rooftop. Was the backpack a "backpack" or a gun case? Was the rifle assembled as he climbed the roof, or was it a quick-assembly weapon that would be difficult to find in the general marketplace?
Posted by: mrp at July 17, 2024 11:26 AM (rj6Yv)
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It's also no coincidence that the attempted murder happened when it did. They had 8 years to murder Trump. Why wait until now? Well . . . it happens at just the precise intersection of the moments when (1) Trump looks pretty much unstable, putting aside vote fraud, (2) Biden looks like a shambling zombie retard, and (3) it's clear that they can't get rid of Biden. Not. A. Coincidence.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:15 AM (iFTx/)
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And just before the RNC, don’t know the rules but would Nikki Haley be the next in line?
It's also no coincidence that the attempted murder happened when it did. They had 8 years to murder Trump. Why wait until now? Well . . . it happens at just the precise intersection of the moments when (1) Trump looks pretty much unstable, putting aside vote fraud, (2) Biden looks like a shambling zombie retard, and (3) it's clear that they can't get rid of Biden. Not. A. Coincidence.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:15 AM (iFTx/)
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And just before the RNC, don’t know the rules but would Nikki Haley be the next in line?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 17, 2024 11:26 AM (QrqOK)
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“idea of conspiracy to finally "get Trump," I don't think that's what this was”. Sigh. How long are you going to keep your head in the sand? What more do you need to disabuse yourself of this naivety?
Probably long enough for you to stroke out.
Probably long enough for you to stroke out.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2024 11:26 AM (xCA6C)
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154 Gosh, this whole draw down of the Secret Service protection around PDT seems vaguely familiar.
Posted by: Uriah the Hittite at July 17, 2024 11:25 AM (tT6L1)
But she was so damn hot!!!
Posted by: Uriah the Hittite at July 17, 2024 11:25 AM (tT6L1)
But she was so damn hot!!!
Posted by: King David at July 17, 2024 11:26 AM (pohLc)
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At the barest of minimums this was a "Let it Happen" operation. That is the starting point.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2024 11:13 AM (QlxXp)
That's where I am in this....
Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2024 11:14 AM (IyPmt)
That's certainly the most obvious part.
Now ask yourself what the chances are that some kid would just happen to show up to exploit that vulnerability that nobody would ever expect to be able to get away with.
Add that he identified himself as "anti-fascist" (aka "Antifa"), which means he's on call to do the dirty work for the Leftists.
Add that he has virtually no presence on the Internet.
You there yet?
[And yes, Epstein did NOT kill himself!]
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2024 11:13 AM (QlxXp)
That's where I am in this....
Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2024 11:14 AM (IyPmt)
That's certainly the most obvious part.
Now ask yourself what the chances are that some kid would just happen to show up to exploit that vulnerability that nobody would ever expect to be able to get away with.
Add that he identified himself as "anti-fascist" (aka "Antifa"), which means he's on call to do the dirty work for the Leftists.
Add that he has virtually no presence on the Internet.
You there yet?
[And yes, Epstein did NOT kill himself!]
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 17, 2024 11:26 AM (hOOi9)
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The plausible alternative most favorable to the Secret Service is that the Secret Service deliberately created a security vulnerability, in the hopes that some random loom would try to kill Trump.
All the other plausible alternatives are much, much worse.
All the other plausible alternatives are much, much worse.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 17, 2024 11:27 AM (uxCna)
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Musk is moving X to Austin, which means maybe there won't be too many new crazies to deal with.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 17, 2024 11:27 AM (xjTDL)
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We are in the early stages of the competency crisis. I see it everyday in my 9 to 5.
People who have never had to overcome challenges in their life, never developed problem solving, logical thinking, or self-sufficiency skills are now being employed simply because we need warm bodies to sit at keyboards.
This in turn, burns out the people who are actually "get shit done" employees. I'm contemplating hanging up the spurs and going into a contracting gig so I can rid myself of these types of people.
People who have never had to overcome challenges in their life, never developed problem solving, logical thinking, or self-sufficiency skills are now being employed simply because we need warm bodies to sit at keyboards.
This in turn, burns out the people who are actually "get shit done" employees. I'm contemplating hanging up the spurs and going into a contracting gig so I can rid myself of these types of people.
Posted by: Defenestratus at July 17, 2024 11:27 AM (LL0My)
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Hi Bulg! No critter recurrence. But I did just get pounced by my cat, the extra large one, for no good reason.
I know y’all are jealous of my amazing life.
I know y’all are jealous of my amazing life.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2024 11:28 AM (p4NUW)
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Musk is moving X to Austin, which means maybe there won't be too many new crazies to deal with.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 17, 2024 11:27 AM (xjTDL)
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Austin ain't a bastion of sensibility.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 17, 2024 11:27 AM (xjTDL)
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Austin ain't a bastion of sensibility.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:28 AM (HnUIn)
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164 And just before the RNC, don’t know the rules but would Nikki Haley be the next in line?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 17, 2024 11:26 AM (QrqOK)
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I have no idea what the rules are for pledged delegates when a Republican candidate dies before the convention, but Haley would walk in with the most pledged delegates (a fraction of the total, sure), and the one who lasted longest in the campaign.
It'd be easier for her rather than anyone else to win it on the first ballot.
More likely, though, it would have led to a massive floor fight that would have gone on for days, maybe even weeks.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 17, 2024 11:26 AM (QrqOK)
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I have no idea what the rules are for pledged delegates when a Republican candidate dies before the convention, but Haley would walk in with the most pledged delegates (a fraction of the total, sure), and the one who lasted longest in the campaign.
It'd be easier for her rather than anyone else to win it on the first ballot.
More likely, though, it would have led to a massive floor fight that would have gone on for days, maybe even weeks.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:28 AM (GBKbO)
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Know why Mayorkas and director of SS haven't resigned?
They have a mission to complete.
Posted by: Not voting
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Why would they? Fat, warm and comfortable.
They have a mission to complete.
Posted by: Not voting
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Why would they? Fat, warm and comfortable.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at July 17, 2024 11:28 AM (XeU6L)
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How big was the assassin's backpack? Apparently, that's how he carried the rifle to the rooftop. Was the backpack a "backpack" or a gun case? Was the rifle assembled as he climbed the roof, or was it a quick-assembly weapon that would be difficult to find in the general marketplace?
There is still zero explanation of how the shooter lugged a twenty-foot ladder a mile to the shooting site.
There is still zero explanation of how the shooter lugged a twenty-foot ladder a mile to the shooting site.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 17, 2024 11:28 AM (uxCna)
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Yeah, but what if the fan is a kid named Henry Rowegooter. Rollengarter. Role...you know what I mean.
Rowsdower. . .
Rowsdower. . .
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 17, 2024 11:28 AM (Q0kLU)
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Aide: Ma'am, a white kid just shot Trump!
Cheatle (smiling): You mean an Iranian guy.
Aide: No, a white kid! Wait, what?
Cheatle: Wait, what?
Cheatle (smiling): You mean an Iranian guy.
Aide: No, a white kid! Wait, what?
Cheatle: Wait, what?
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at July 17, 2024 11:29 AM (qUkBO)
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Kyle Becker @kylenabecker 1h
"That sounds like a no."
NEW: CNN pins down Secret Service director Kim Cheatle on her dubious claim that she enhanced Trump security after a "credible threat" to his life
https://tinyurl.com/4kkvub34
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Sean Davis @seanmdav 21m
Biden’s Secret Service director all but admits here to deliberately starving Trump’s security team of what it needed to protect him.
When asked point blank whether every element of the security team had been stepped up in light of increased threats against Trump’s life, she hems and haws and refuses to answer a simple yes or no question.
"That sounds like a no."
NEW: CNN pins down Secret Service director Kim Cheatle on her dubious claim that she enhanced Trump security after a "credible threat" to his life
https://tinyurl.com/4kkvub34
39 seconds
Sean Davis @seanmdav 21m
Biden’s Secret Service director all but admits here to deliberately starving Trump’s security team of what it needed to protect him.
When asked point blank whether every element of the security team had been stepped up in light of increased threats against Trump’s life, she hems and haws and refuses to answer a simple yes or no question.
Posted by: Barack Hussein 'I can use it now' 0bama at July 17, 2024 11:29 AM (wse2C)
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I know y’all are jealous of my amazing life.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2024 11:28 AM (p4NUW)
It's not jealousy so much as awe.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2024 11:28 AM (p4NUW)
It's not jealousy so much as awe.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2024 11:29 AM (QlxXp)
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I love the reason they give as to why Trump and JFK were not afforded better security: It's too expensive.
This is the same administration that runs trillion-dollar deficits and writes billion-dollar checks to Ukraine and Iran like it's a kid asking for ice cream money.
These democrats ar the most spiteful petty, power-mad idiots ever to govern this once-great nation.
This is the same administration that runs trillion-dollar deficits and writes billion-dollar checks to Ukraine and Iran like it's a kid asking for ice cream money.
These democrats ar the most spiteful petty, power-mad idiots ever to govern this once-great nation.
Posted by: red speck at July 17, 2024 11:29 AM (0Id0S)
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Bull shit. Too steep for professionals, yet a twenty yr old kid can belly crawl across it.
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It isn't reasonable, but I can see it - even if only as a bit of after-the-fact ass covering.
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That's all it is. They are throwing out smooth brain excuses that are only acceptable in their bureaucratic world. In the real world, we understand they invented rails and scaffold to keep people from slipping off of roofs and also their job was to protect the president and they failed.
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It isn't reasonable, but I can see it - even if only as a bit of after-the-fact ass covering.
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That's all it is. They are throwing out smooth brain excuses that are only acceptable in their bureaucratic world. In the real world, we understand they invented rails and scaffold to keep people from slipping off of roofs and also their job was to protect the president and they failed.
Posted by: Ribbed at July 17, 2024 11:29 AM (Ectld)
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If Haley was the nominee, we'd have two candidates that make WWIII fairly likely.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 17, 2024 11:29 AM (cf/0E)
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Up until 2012, i would say that they cannot possibly try to kill him again. Those rules are out the window, they will totally try again.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at July 17, 2024 11:29 AM (7PziG)
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President Biden is finalizing plans to endorse major changes to the Supreme Court in the coming weeks, including proposals for legislation to establish term limits for the justices and an enforceable ethics code, according to two people briefed on the plans. He is also weighing whether to call for a constitutional amendment to eliminate broad immunity for presidents and other constitutional officeholders.
.. I'm sure there is an Afghan wedding party that would like to sue the hell out of Barack Obama
.. I'm sure there is an Afghan wedding party that would like to sue the hell out of Barack Obama
Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2024 11:30 AM (RHGPo)
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loped roof = grasping at straws....of course, other agency heads would buy into it.
they are seriously claiming it was too dangerous to go up on a sloped roof???
the only idiots who will buy this explanation are the peabrains who are addicted to The View and Rachel Madcow
they are seriously claiming it was too dangerous to go up on a sloped roof???
the only idiots who will buy this explanation are the peabrains who are addicted to The View and Rachel Madcow
Posted by: kallisto at July 17, 2024 11:30 AM (dCxaZ)
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I'm inclined to agree Joe, until given compelling evidence of something else. This kid was a loner and growing up hearing nothing but increasingly vile things about President Trump, he saw an opportunity to make a name for himself and be the hero of his own story.
Did he have help? Another kid maybe? Who knows? But add security failure to this and voila.
President Trump will always be in danger.
Did he have help? Another kid maybe? Who knows? But add security failure to this and voila.
President Trump will always be in danger.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 17, 2024 11:30 AM (W/lyH)
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She is a nobody who married well.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2024 11:20 AM (p4NUW)
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This, too, is the story of Bill Clinton.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:22 AM (HnUIn)
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I'm still waiting for the truly competent Boss Lady who got to where she is through actual excellence. They must be out there, no? Unfortunately all I see are DEI hires, fail-upwards mediocrities, and far too many sucked-the-right-dicks half-whores.
There's a reason so many younger girls are promiscuous THOTs obsessed with SM adoration by slutting it up. They inherently see what conduct gets rewarded and emulate it.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2024 11:20 AM (p4NUW)
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This, too, is the story of Bill Clinton.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:22 AM (HnUIn)
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I'm still waiting for the truly competent Boss Lady who got to where she is through actual excellence. They must be out there, no? Unfortunately all I see are DEI hires, fail-upwards mediocrities, and far too many sucked-the-right-dicks half-whores.
There's a reason so many younger girls are promiscuous THOTs obsessed with SM adoration by slutting it up. They inherently see what conduct gets rewarded and emulate it.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:30 AM (iFTx/)
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Re:"homeland"
In The Boys, the main antagonist is "Homelander", a Superman type character that thinks himself a god, and has a fetish for lactating women. (I can't blame hime when the woman is Elizabeth Shue.)
Anyway, Homelander=homeland=creepy.
In The Boys, the main antagonist is "Homelander", a Superman type character that thinks himself a god, and has a fetish for lactating women. (I can't blame hime when the woman is Elizabeth Shue.)
Anyway, Homelander=homeland=creepy.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at July 17, 2024 11:30 AM (ufFY8)
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I have no idea what the rules are for pledged delegates when a Republican candidate dies before the convention, but Haley would walk in with the most pledged delegates (a fraction of the total, sure), and the one who lasted longest in the campaign.
It'd be easier for her rather than anyone else to win it on the first ballot.
More likely, though, it would have led to a massive floor fight that would have gone on for days, maybe even weeks.\
I don't know either, but it's my intuition that RDS would be the obvious and overwhelming frontrunner. Nikki has her fans, but the party has moved on from her.
It'd be easier for her rather than anyone else to win it on the first ballot.
More likely, though, it would have led to a massive floor fight that would have gone on for days, maybe even weeks.\
I don't know either, but it's my intuition that RDS would be the obvious and overwhelming frontrunner. Nikki has her fans, but the party has moved on from her.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2024 11:30 AM (xCA6C)
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When was Jill's speech, requiring a supposed diversion of resources, scheduled? A question worth asking.
Three days before Trump's rally. Trump's rally had been publicly announced ten days before the event.
Three days before Trump's rally. Trump's rally had been publicly announced ten days before the event.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 17, 2024 11:30 AM (uxCna)
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... It's also no coincidence that the attempted murder happened when it did. They had 8 years to murder Trump. Why wait until now? Well . . . it happens at just the precise intersection of the moments when (1) Trump looks pretty much unstable, putting aside vote fraud, (2) Biden looks like a shambling zombie retard, and (3) it's clear that they can't get rid of Biden. Not. A. Coincidence.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:15 AM (iFTx/)
That's all good, except one side point: "Trump looks pretty much unstable"?
What are you smoking? If anything, Trump was a lot less animated in that debate, and had laid low for over a week, not taking any attention away from Biden having destroyed himself.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:15 AM (iFTx/)
That's all good, except one side point: "Trump looks pretty much unstable"?
What are you smoking? If anything, Trump was a lot less animated in that debate, and had laid low for over a week, not taking any attention away from Biden having destroyed himself.
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 17, 2024 11:31 AM (hOOi9)
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It predates Cheatle. It's more about dodging accountability and liability, I suspect. "Safetyism" and box-ticking really moved into full swing in the 80s, before female executives were seen as their own reward.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:05 AM (HnUIn)
I remember that from the Navy. We were on deployment and had a piece of equipment go bad. Couldn't be fixed at sea. There was a backup but it wasn't supposed to be operated at sea due to issues with its location. Whatever. Needs must.
Anyway, keeping it running required that we give it just a bit of TLC every day. That TLC was NOT safe. It was, in fact, stupidly NOT safe... like reach your arm into a piece of rotating electrical equipment to clean stuff off not safe. But it was mission critical. We had a young sailor flat out refuse to do what was needed and the command permitted it. So I did it, every day... still have both arms so it all worked out.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:05 AM (HnUIn)
I remember that from the Navy. We were on deployment and had a piece of equipment go bad. Couldn't be fixed at sea. There was a backup but it wasn't supposed to be operated at sea due to issues with its location. Whatever. Needs must.
Anyway, keeping it running required that we give it just a bit of TLC every day. That TLC was NOT safe. It was, in fact, stupidly NOT safe... like reach your arm into a piece of rotating electrical equipment to clean stuff off not safe. But it was mission critical. We had a young sailor flat out refuse to do what was needed and the command permitted it. So I did it, every day... still have both arms so it all worked out.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2024 11:31 AM (IUd0M)
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Trump even unmasks when he is almost killed. Not tired of the unmasking.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at July 17, 2024 11:32 AM (Z8Yh2)
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You could have ridden a unicycle around on that roof. That excuse was so stupid it stuns me, and I already thought them seriously stupid.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 17, 2024 11:32 AM (pohLc)
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>There is still zero explanation of how the shooter lugged a twenty-foot ladder a mile to the shooting site.
It was a twelve foot ladder. Still stupid heavy. The dude wasn't looking for an opening while lugging it around.
Similar it's hard to get a good description of the rifle.
It was a twelve foot ladder. Still stupid heavy. The dude wasn't looking for an opening while lugging it around.
Similar it's hard to get a good description of the rifle.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 17, 2024 11:32 AM (cf/0E)
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It's also no coincidence that the attempted murder happened when it did. They had 8 years to murder Trump. Why wait until now? Well . . . it happens at just the precise intersection of the moments when (1) Trump looks pretty much unstable, putting aside vote fraud, (2) Biden looks like a shambling zombie retard, and (3) it's clear that they can't get rid of Biden. Not. A. Coincidence.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:15 AM (iFTx/)
That's all good, except one side point: "Trump looks pretty much unstable"?
What are you smoking? If anything, Trump was a lot less animated in that debate, and had laid low for over a week, not taking any attention away from Biden having destroyed himself.
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 17, 2024 11:31 AM (hOOi9)
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Typo, my man. Typo. Meant to write "unstoppable."
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:15 AM (iFTx/)
That's all good, except one side point: "Trump looks pretty much unstable"?
What are you smoking? If anything, Trump was a lot less animated in that debate, and had laid low for over a week, not taking any attention away from Biden having destroyed himself.
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 17, 2024 11:31 AM (hOOi9)
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Typo, my man. Typo. Meant to write "unstoppable."
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:32 AM (iFTx/)
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In the aftermath of the shooting, within a half hour or so, I heard on Newsmax that PA State Police put out a statement that Trump was hit by shrapnel from the teleprompter shattering from being shot.
They had to ditch that fairy tale when Trump came out with his social media post.
They had to ditch that fairy tale when Trump came out with his social media post.
Posted by: kallisto at July 17, 2024 11:32 AM (dCxaZ)
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Move USSS back to Treasury. Eliminate DHS.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 17, 2024 11:05 AM (sX1BW)
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Those eligible for protection are given a budget to hire their own protection.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:05 AM (GBKbO)
Didn't USSS start out as anti-counterfeit, not protection?
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 17, 2024 11:05 AM (sX1BW)
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Those eligible for protection are given a budget to hire their own protection.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:05 AM (GBKbO)
Didn't USSS start out as anti-counterfeit, not protection?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2024 11:32 AM (IUd0M)
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Dan Bongino is calling on Secret Service agents to come clean and reveal the dirty little details. He puts the threat assessment on Jill at a '6' while Trump would be a '10'.
Dan Bongino is calling on Secret Service agents to come clean and reveal the dirty little details. He puts the threat assessment on Jill at a '6' while Trump would be a '10'.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 17, 2024 11:32 AM (RKVpM)
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I'm still waiting for the truly competent Boss Lady who got to where she is through actual excellence. They must be out there, no? Unfortunately all I see are DEI hires, fail-upwards mediocrities, and far too many sucked-the-right-dicks half-whores. ...
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:30 AM (iFTx/)
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There are a few. I think Hillary Clinton is one of them. She used Bill and her family's money and position to build a major political empire. She failed in her bid to take it over as the public face by becoming president, but she is responsible for Bill's meteoric rise and she formed him into the tool for her ambition. She was not entirely successful, but she had a hell of a run.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:30 AM (iFTx/)
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There are a few. I think Hillary Clinton is one of them. She used Bill and her family's money and position to build a major political empire. She failed in her bid to take it over as the public face by becoming president, but she is responsible for Bill's meteoric rise and she formed him into the tool for her ambition. She was not entirely successful, but she had a hell of a run.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:32 AM (HnUIn)
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If you're a sniper and the roof's too steep won't the actual bullet fall out of the barrel of the gun when you go to shoot the thing?
Posted by: Whoopi Goldberg at July 17, 2024 11:32 AM (5h/8D)
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So the debate I'm seeing is whether Libs of Tik Tok, et al should ease up on publicizing the deranged rantings of maniac liberals.
No. They are so proud of themselves why should they hide?
As a result, some of these lunatics are losing jobs, clients, etc.
And people on our side have had to deal with that for the past few years.
Good and hard until they beg for mercy. Then keep doing it for a bit longer until they learn to behave like human beings.
No. They are so proud of themselves why should they hide?
As a result, some of these lunatics are losing jobs, clients, etc.
And people on our side have had to deal with that for the past few years.
Good and hard until they beg for mercy. Then keep doing it for a bit longer until they learn to behave like human beings.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 17, 2024 11:33 AM (99eI0)
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Sean Davis @seanmdav 1h
You know that photo of the would-be assassin that’s been circulating since Saturday?
It was taken by the Secret Service.
And yet somehow he was allowed to roam the complex, with a gun and a range finder, climb the roof of the closest and most obvious building with a clear shot at Trump, get nice and cozy and comfortable for nearly 10 minutes, and then fire off multiple shots before anyone seemed to care about his presence.
https://tinyurl.com/7spkbakp
NOT the death photo.
You know that photo of the would-be assassin that’s been circulating since Saturday?
It was taken by the Secret Service.
And yet somehow he was allowed to roam the complex, with a gun and a range finder, climb the roof of the closest and most obvious building with a clear shot at Trump, get nice and cozy and comfortable for nearly 10 minutes, and then fire off multiple shots before anyone seemed to care about his presence.
https://tinyurl.com/7spkbakp
NOT the death photo.
Posted by: Barack Hussein 'I can use it now' 0bama at July 17, 2024 11:33 AM (wse2C)
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"The whole Social Security thing is largely a canard and it annoys me. It's a political football that doesn't need to exist. Social Security is salvageable. Medicare (well, CMS, which includes Medicaid and some other things, but it's mostly Medicare) is the whole problem, and everyone at high levels knows it. Since that is the real issue, they play with Social Security instead so that they don't have to do anything and can get cheap soundbites while the government goes bankrupt."
Exactly right. I expect the CMS detonation to play out in a rather dramatic fashion over the next decade or so. The generation one older than us (I'm 56 now) is going into this with the expectation that government backed healthcare is always going to be there for them. They'll be dying off at the same approximate time CMS degenerates into whatever ultimately takes its place.
Exactly right. I expect the CMS detonation to play out in a rather dramatic fashion over the next decade or so. The generation one older than us (I'm 56 now) is going into this with the expectation that government backed healthcare is always going to be there for them. They'll be dying off at the same approximate time CMS degenerates into whatever ultimately takes its place.
Posted by: Dood at July 17, 2024 11:33 AM (5iSjY)
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Crooks, age 20, had zero social media presence. This also includes no gaming ID's, etc. This really bothers me as anyone that knows a kid or young adult knows they have at least some presence on social media - hell, I do and I'm way past 29. Nada. Zip. Also, the only photo of Crooks being shown is when he was a Freshman in HS - which is 14 or 15 years old wearing a US flag t-shirt. No other photos from ages 16-20. We saw the photo of him on the roof with what looks to be long hair but there are no photos of him since age 14? Trayvon Martin anyone? Las Vegas shooter anyone? This one smells bad.
Posted by: Cheri at July 17, 2024 11:33 AM (oiNtH)
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NEW: CNN pins down Secret Service director Kim Cheatle on her dubious claim that she enhanced Trump security after a "credible threat" to his life
That clip is very surprising. CNN must be trying to show they're impartial. It won't work, but still...
That clip is very surprising. CNN must be trying to show they're impartial. It won't work, but still...
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2024 11:33 AM (xCA6C)
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198 Didn't USSS start out as anti-counterfeit, not protection?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2024 11:32 AM (IUd0M)
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It's primary concern is still fighting counterfeiting. Presidential security is a small part of it.
And, if To Live and Die in L.A. is any indication, those in the detail think VERY highly of themselves.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2024 11:32 AM (IUd0M)
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It's primary concern is still fighting counterfeiting. Presidential security is a small part of it.
And, if To Live and Die in L.A. is any indication, those in the detail think VERY highly of themselves.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:33 AM (GBKbO)
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If you're a sniper and the roof's too steep won't the actual bullet fall out of the barrel of the gun when you go to shoot the thing?
Posted by: Whoopi Goldberg at July 17, 2024 11:32 AM (5h/8D)
++++
:: slow clap ::
Posted by: Whoopi Goldberg at July 17, 2024 11:32 AM (5h/8D)
++++
:: slow clap ::
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:33 AM (HnUIn)
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There's a reason so many younger girls are promiscuous THOTs obsessed with SM adoration by slutting it up. They inherently see what conduct gets rewarded and emulate it.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024
I did pretty well for myself in a male dominated field. 😀. I then walked away from it (because I had to) and am now a small business owner who can only because of the patriarchy. I did it all backwards.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024
I did pretty well for myself in a male dominated field. 😀. I then walked away from it (because I had to) and am now a small business owner who can only because of the patriarchy. I did it all backwards.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2024 11:33 AM (pZEOD)
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It was a op.
Posted by: Narator at July 17, 2024 11:33 AM (aD39U)
Posted by: andycanuck (Jh5b+) at July 17, 2024 11:34 AM (wse2C)
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37 So the debate I'm seeing is whether Libs of Tik Tok, et al should ease up on publicizing the deranged rantings of maniac liberals. As a result, some of these lunatics are losing jobs, clients, etc.
Don't we owe it to the public at large, and to employers and customers, to reveal the beliefs of these individuals? In my own life, I knowingly will not engage someone of that ilk.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 17, 2024 11:07 AM (YIxO9)
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Agree. Wishing Trump to be shot is orders of magnitude worse than saying the forbidden n-word. Think about it.
(There should be no forbidden words, just thicker skin!)
Don't we owe it to the public at large, and to employers and customers, to reveal the beliefs of these individuals? In my own life, I knowingly will not engage someone of that ilk.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 17, 2024 11:07 AM (YIxO9)
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Agree. Wishing Trump to be shot is orders of magnitude worse than saying the forbidden n-word. Think about it.
(There should be no forbidden words, just thicker skin!)
Posted by: Ciampino - there should be no forbidden words at July 17, 2024 11:34 AM (qfLjt)
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191 >>>That's all good, except one side point: "Trump looks pretty much unstable"?
I read that, too. I think the writer was a victim of autocucumber. Bet you he typed something closer to "unbeatable."
I read that, too. I think the writer was a victim of autocucumber. Bet you he typed something closer to "unbeatable."
Posted by: red speck at July 17, 2024 11:34 AM (0Id0S)
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184 President Biden is finalizing plans to endorse major changes to the Supreme Court in the coming weeks, including proposals for legislation to establish term limits for the justices and an enforceable ethics code, according to two people briefed on the plans. He is also weighing whether to call for a constitutional amendment to eliminate broad immunity for presidents and other constitutional officeholders.
.. I'm sure there is an Afghan wedding party that would like to sue the hell out of Barack Obama
Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2024 11:30 AM (RHGPo)
Saw that on CFP or Rantingly earlier. He can propose whatever he wants regarding SCOTUS. The separation of powers will keep him from legally doing anything.
.. I'm sure there is an Afghan wedding party that would like to sue the hell out of Barack Obama
Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2024 11:30 AM (RHGPo)
Saw that on CFP or Rantingly earlier. He can propose whatever he wants regarding SCOTUS. The separation of powers will keep him from legally doing anything.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 17, 2024 11:34 AM (N39Ws)
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BTW, I'm sick of hearing about how amazingly accurate Armalite Rifle 15 is. The standard unit is mediocre. Shitty military trigger. Not target grade.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 17, 2024 11:34 AM (pohLc)
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Similar it's hard to get a good description of the rifle.
black assault weapon murder rifle with the thing that goes up
black assault weapon murder rifle with the thing that goes up
Posted by: MSM at July 17, 2024 11:35 AM (25k9m)
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Three days before Trump's rally. Trump's rally had been publicly announced ten days before the event.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 17, 2024 11:30 AM (uxCna)
Interesting, non?
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 17, 2024 11:30 AM (uxCna)
Interesting, non?
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2024 11:35 AM (QlxXp)
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Thank you ARC
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2024 11:35 AM (QlxXp)
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I'm still waiting for the truly competent Boss Lady who got to where she is through actual excellence. They must be out there, no? Unfortunately all I see are DEI hires, fail-upwards mediocrities, and far too many sucked-the-right-dicks half-whores. ...
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:30 AM (iFTx/)
We are waiting too...
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:30 AM (iFTx/)
We are waiting too...
Posted by: U.S. Navy at July 17, 2024 11:35 AM (K861k)
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Geez, people. Look at the pics of the roof. It's not steep.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at July 17, 2024 11:35 AM (g8Ew8)
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Instant access to realtime events provided by smartphones/social media make it more of a challenge for DS to cover up their crimes.
Posted by: kallisto at July 17, 2024 11:35 AM (dCxaZ)
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There is still zero explanation of how the shooter lugged a twenty-foot ladder a mile to the shooting site.
It was a twelve foot ladder. Still stupid heavy. The dude wasn't looking for an opening while lugging it around.
Similar it's hard to get a good description of the rifle.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 17, 2024 11:32 AM (cf/0E)
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12 foot ladders weigh a ton and ain't easy to move around. I regularly use an 8-foot ladder to reach my ceilings in my apartment. It's a new ladder made from very light materials. It's still a huge pain to move around. And I'm a tall, strong guy. I'm not that little 98-pound pipsqueak sniper I see in the pics.
It was a twelve foot ladder. Still stupid heavy. The dude wasn't looking for an opening while lugging it around.
Similar it's hard to get a good description of the rifle.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 17, 2024 11:32 AM (cf/0E)
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12 foot ladders weigh a ton and ain't easy to move around. I regularly use an 8-foot ladder to reach my ceilings in my apartment. It's a new ladder made from very light materials. It's still a huge pain to move around. And I'm a tall, strong guy. I'm not that little 98-pound pipsqueak sniper I see in the pics.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:35 AM (iFTx/)
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This smiling brunette knows that I hold a minority position on this, but appreciates the largely polite disagreement and wants to celebrate the Horde with a delicious dessert:
http://tiny.cc/4g87zz
http://tiny.cc/4g87zz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:35 AM (HnUIn)
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I read that, too. I think the writer was a victim of autocucumber. Bet you he typed something closer to "unbeatable."
Posted by: red speck at July 17, 2024 11:34 AM (0Id0S)
Unstoppable
Posted by: red speck at July 17, 2024 11:34 AM (0Id0S)
Unstoppable
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2024 11:35 AM (QlxXp)
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We had a young sailor flat out refuse to do what was needed and the command permitted it. So I did it, every day... still have both arms so it all worked out.
You married Michelle Fields, didn't you?
You married Michelle Fields, didn't you?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2024 11:35 AM (xCA6C)
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130 119 I want to know why Jill needed increased security. No one gives a rat’s behind about her. She is a nobody who married well.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2024 11:20 AM (p4NUW)
Well she (thinks she) is the defactor POTUS.
not certain whether typo or editorial comment
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2024 11:20 AM (p4NUW)
Well she (thinks she) is the defactor POTUS.
not certain whether typo or editorial comment
Posted by: anachronda at July 17, 2024 11:35 AM (oY6Yp)
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Reported the rifle was a DPMS 5.56.
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at July 17, 2024 11:36 AM (Y8lzz)
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Cheri it's all one big coincidence. Relax. Incompetance dont ya know. In fact MOVE ALONG.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at July 17, 2024 11:36 AM (Z8Yh2)
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I'm seeing people on X trying to make an issue about the size of the bandage on Trump's ear. WTF?
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at July 17, 2024 11:36 AM (JLq/1)
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He said that Amber Rose gave her WalkAway speech and folks were dissing her for her past.
People forget Paul the Apostle.
People forget Paul the Apostle.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2024 11:36 AM (IUd0M)
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There's a reason so many younger girls are promiscuous THOTs obsessed with SM adoration by slutting it up. They inherently see what conduct gets rewarded and emulate it.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:30 AM (iFTx/)
You got me looking up what a "THOT" is, so now I am a more educated person! But I'm not sure I want to know what "SM" is ...
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:30 AM (iFTx/)
You got me looking up what a "THOT" is, so now I am a more educated person! But I'm not sure I want to know what "SM" is ...
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 17, 2024 11:36 AM (hOOi9)
Posted by: kallisto at July 17, 2024 11:37 AM (dCxaZ)
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Crooks, age 20, had zero social media presence. This also includes no gaming ID's, etc. This really bothers me as anyone that knows a kid or young adult knows they have at least some presence on social media
we at least got the "cover your tracks" part right
we at least got the "cover your tracks" part right
Posted by: CIA at July 17, 2024 11:37 AM (25k9m)
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I'm still waiting for the truly competent Boss Lady who got to where she is through actual excellence. They must be out there, no? Unfortunately all I see are DEI hires, fail-upwards mediocrities, and far too many sucked-the-right-dicks half-whores. ...
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:30 AM (iFTx/)
You mean conservative women??
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:30 AM (iFTx/)
You mean conservative women??
Posted by: Doof at July 17, 2024 11:37 AM (RhGG0)
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230 He said that Amber Rose gave her WalkAway speech and folks were dissing her for her past.
People forget Paul the Apostle.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2024 11:36 AM (IUd0M)
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It's been REALLY weird to watch Milo play his "holier than thou" act on Twitter.
He has become a moralist monarchist, and I find it very weird.
People forget Paul the Apostle.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2024 11:36 AM (IUd0M)
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It's been REALLY weird to watch Milo play his "holier than thou" act on Twitter.
He has become a moralist monarchist, and I find it very weird.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:37 AM (GBKbO)
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Things Bush did well:
- Gave a cool speech with a bullhorn after 9/11
- Threw a strike at WS
- Justice Alito - after almost blowing that completely
That's about it.
Posted by: SH
Puked on the PM of Japan.
Dodged a thrown shoe in Baghdad.
Wore a flightsuit on a carrier and looked kinda bad ass.
Gave me one of my favorite jokes with the word "Brazillion"
- Gave a cool speech with a bullhorn after 9/11
- Threw a strike at WS
- Justice Alito - after almost blowing that completely
That's about it.
Posted by: SH
Puked on the PM of Japan.
Dodged a thrown shoe in Baghdad.
Wore a flightsuit on a carrier and looked kinda bad ass.
Gave me one of my favorite jokes with the word "Brazillion"
Posted by: Moron Analyst at July 17, 2024 11:37 AM (JCZqz)
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It seems, for now, that the Secret Service owns acting somewhere along the spectrum of criminal negligence, recklessness, and indirect intentionally.
This range asks, did the SS fail to act reasonably about securing the assassin location, knew the risk posed by the assassin location and consciously disregarded that risk, and finally, by conscious inaction created the opportunity for an assassin to gain access to the rooftop.
There is a 4th option: direct intentionality that entails an actor or actors actively being involved with recruiting the assassin and then facilitating that assassination attempt. In same manner this resembles the ludacris "plot" to kidnap Gov. Whitmer stoked by, IIRC, the FBI.
Which of these, alone or in combination, is correct is still not certain. What seems clear is somebody or somebodies should find themselves facing a jury. I am not holding my breath anything of consequence will occur; after all, this all happened in the larger political context of "stopping the primary threat to the precious democracy."
This range asks, did the SS fail to act reasonably about securing the assassin location, knew the risk posed by the assassin location and consciously disregarded that risk, and finally, by conscious inaction created the opportunity for an assassin to gain access to the rooftop.
There is a 4th option: direct intentionality that entails an actor or actors actively being involved with recruiting the assassin and then facilitating that assassination attempt. In same manner this resembles the ludacris "plot" to kidnap Gov. Whitmer stoked by, IIRC, the FBI.
Which of these, alone or in combination, is correct is still not certain. What seems clear is somebody or somebodies should find themselves facing a jury. I am not holding my breath anything of consequence will occur; after all, this all happened in the larger political context of "stopping the primary threat to the precious democracy."
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram at July 17, 2024 11:37 AM (RUmyk)
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That cashier was delighted that the fireman died as well.
If you extend your principles to people who have done much worse "imagine if the roles were reversed" then the next generation of conservatives will also be second-class citizens.
If you extend your principles to people who have done much worse "imagine if the roles were reversed" then the next generation of conservatives will also be second-class citizens.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 17, 2024 11:37 AM (cf/0E)
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"We were on deployment and had a piece of equipment go bad. Couldn't be fixed at sea. There was a backup but it wasn't supposed to be operated at sea due to issues with its location."
Heh. You mean the still, right?
Heh. You mean the still, right?
Posted by: Ribbed at July 17, 2024 11:37 AM (Ectld)
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http://tiny.cc/4g87zz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:35 AM (HnUIn)
I'd eat her most happily.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:35 AM (HnUIn)
I'd eat her most happily.
Posted by: Robert at July 17, 2024 11:37 AM (1Yy3c)
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That wetness on your back...it's rain.
Posted by: The Regime at July 17, 2024 11:38 AM (Z8Yh2)
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If we all packed our own heat we could get rid of TSA.
Posted by: Pudinhead at July 17, 2024 11:38 AM (n17eQ)
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This smiling brunette knows that I hold a minority position on this, but appreciates the largely polite disagreement and wants to celebrate the Horde with a delicious dessert:
Very pretty. I want to protect her.
Very pretty. I want to protect her.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2024 11:38 AM (xCA6C)
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Trump is really milking this being shot stuff!
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2024 11:38 AM (QlxXp)
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But I'm not sure I want to know what "SM" is ...
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 17, 2024 11:36 AM (hOOi9)
I think it means Social Media. Never saw it abbreviated as such tho
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 17, 2024 11:36 AM (hOOi9)
I think it means Social Media. Never saw it abbreviated as such tho
Posted by: Doof at July 17, 2024 11:38 AM (RhGG0)
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229 I'm seeing people on X trying to make an issue about the size of the bandage on Trump's ear. WTF?
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at July 17, 2024 11:36 AM (JLq/1)
Ronny Jackson Trump's WH physician, said that he saw the wound and those types of injuries have a tendency to continue bleeding thus the bandage
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at July 17, 2024 11:36 AM (JLq/1)
Ronny Jackson Trump's WH physician, said that he saw the wound and those types of injuries have a tendency to continue bleeding thus the bandage
Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2024 11:38 AM (IyPmt)
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‘ I'm just afraid someone is gonna try and finish the job’
That ball is in Trump’s court. He knows the Secret Service won’t do the job. He has resources to get his protection done right. He needs to do it.
Let the public see the spectacle of Trump providing his own security and that of Vance and RFK, jr.
If he gets asked why, tell them Biden and his people refuse to.
‘ I'm just afraid someone is gonna try and finish the job’
That ball is in Trump’s court. He knows the Secret Service won’t do the job. He has resources to get his protection done right. He needs to do it.
Let the public see the spectacle of Trump providing his own security and that of Vance and RFK, jr.
If he gets asked why, tell them Biden and his people refuse to.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 17, 2024 11:38 AM (MdBWd)
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In other news, Mrs. anchorbabe is now in the habit of calling Donna "Big Tit Donna". She is now watching an episode of Bold and the Beautiful from a few days ago and had to pause on a photo in the background because she couldn't identify it. She says:
"Oh, it is Big Tit Donna."
"BTD."
"Bind, Tie, Donna."
LMAO. She's a keeper.
"Oh, it is Big Tit Donna."
"BTD."
"Bind, Tie, Donna."
LMAO. She's a keeper.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at July 17, 2024 11:38 AM (ufFY8)
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These people in their bubbles are not very bright,
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2024 11:11 AM (n+prZ)
Everyone they know thinks as they do. It's inconceivable to do otherwise.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2024 11:11 AM (n+prZ)
Everyone they know thinks as they do. It's inconceivable to do otherwise.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2024 11:38 AM (IUd0M)
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A piece by a sci-fi writer I read long ago was about how to commit the perfect murder. To do it you arranged dangerous circumstances around your victim that could be explained as simple negligence. Loose railings on the basement stairs with clutter on the steps. Get the victim drunk then ask them to get the laundry out of the basement etc. Just an accident of bad housekeeping.
Posted by: geoffb at July 17, 2024 11:38 AM (r//c2)
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There's a reason so many younger girls are promiscuous THOTs obsessed with SM adoration by slutting it up. They inherently see what conduct gets rewarded and emulate it.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:30 AM (iFTx/)
You got me looking up what a "THOT" is, so now I am a more educated person! But I'm not sure I want to know what "SM" is ...
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 17, 2024 11:36 AM (hOOi9)
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SM = social media
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:30 AM (iFTx/)
You got me looking up what a "THOT" is, so now I am a more educated person! But I'm not sure I want to know what "SM" is ...
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 17, 2024 11:36 AM (hOOi9)
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SM = social media
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:38 AM (iFTx/)
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I want to know why Jill needed increased security. No one gives a rat’s behind about her. She is a nobody who married well.
Jill loves the pomp of being First Lady.
She would throw a fit if she didn't have a heavy security presence around her.
Jill loves the pomp of being First Lady.
She would throw a fit if she didn't have a heavy security presence around her.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 17, 2024 11:38 AM (uxCna)
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That's all good, except one side point: "Trump looks pretty much unstable"?
I figured that was auto-correct for "unstoppable."
I figured that was auto-correct for "unstoppable."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 17, 2024 11:39 AM (Q0kLU)
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At best, and I mean at best, this was purposely leaving an opportunity open by those in charge of security.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
Of course!! Look, this has been the plan all along: whip up the frenzy among the left's huge group of mentally ill angry haters by dog whistling about "fascism" and "muh demokrasee" Then surround Trump with DEI rejects and plump garden gnome female agents and let nature take its course. Then when Trump gets hit, blame Trump for making them so angry. White House literally couldn't tone down the rhetoric for a week, they were back at it in two days.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
Of course!! Look, this has been the plan all along: whip up the frenzy among the left's huge group of mentally ill angry haters by dog whistling about "fascism" and "muh demokrasee" Then surround Trump with DEI rejects and plump garden gnome female agents and let nature take its course. Then when Trump gets hit, blame Trump for making them so angry. White House literally couldn't tone down the rhetoric for a week, they were back at it in two days.
Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at July 17, 2024 11:39 AM (ANYYb)
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The whole, "We're dedicated to free speech so much that we allow our side to get punished because hiring and firing is speech but we can't use it against the other side because their speech is protected" thing has to end at some point.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:11 AM (GBKbO)
As long as one side of a fight suffers no pain, they have no reason to stop.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:11 AM (GBKbO)
As long as one side of a fight suffers no pain, they have no reason to stop.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2024 11:40 AM (IUd0M)
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If you're a sniper and the roof's too steep won't the actual bullet fall out of the barrel of the gun when you go to shoot the thing?
Posted by: Whoopi Goldberg at July 17, 2024 11:32 AM (5h/8D)
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"Nailed it -- similar to the way ejaculate leaks out of a limp penis." -- "Genius Racist" Joy Reid
Posted by: Whoopi Goldberg at July 17, 2024 11:32 AM (5h/8D)
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"Nailed it -- similar to the way ejaculate leaks out of a limp penis." -- "Genius Racist" Joy Reid
Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2024, Now #1 With a Bullet! at July 17, 2024 11:40 AM (G6+tw)
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Somebody shorted a whole lot of Truth Social stock in the week before the assassination attempt.
==
Airline stocks were shorted a day before 9/1.
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Airline stocks were shorted a day before 9/1.
Posted by: runner at July 17, 2024 11:40 AM (V13WU)
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I think it means Social Media. Never saw it abbreviated as such tho
Posted by: Doof at July 17, 2024 11:38
Yes, social media
Posted by: Doof at July 17, 2024 11:38
Yes, social media
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2024 11:40 AM (pZEOD)
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‘ I'm just afraid someone is gonna try and finish the job’
That ball is in Trump’s court. He knows the Secret Service won’t do the job. He has resources to get his protection done right. He needs to do it.
Let the public see the spectacle of Trump providing his own security and that of Vance and RFK, jr.
If he gets asked why, tell them Biden and his people refuse to.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 17, 2024 11:38 AM
At this point in time I expect that Trump is actively talking to security experts outside of the SS. Pretty sure there are a bunch of special forces operators out there that would be willing to help out.
That ball is in Trump’s court. He knows the Secret Service won’t do the job. He has resources to get his protection done right. He needs to do it.
Let the public see the spectacle of Trump providing his own security and that of Vance and RFK, jr.
If he gets asked why, tell them Biden and his people refuse to.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 17, 2024 11:38 AM
At this point in time I expect that Trump is actively talking to security experts outside of the SS. Pretty sure there are a bunch of special forces operators out there that would be willing to help out.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 17, 2024 11:40 AM (QNSds)
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246 229 I'm seeing people on X trying to make an issue about the size of the bandage on Trump's ear. WTF?
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at July 17, 2024 11:36 AM (JLq/1)
Ronny Jackson Trump's WH physician, said that he saw the wound and those types of injuries have a tendency to continue bleeding thus the bandage
Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2024 11:38 AM (IyPmt)
I was more thinking it was there to prevent any chance of infection...changed daily (b/c you could tell it was a new one) til the wound is completely closed and out of danger of that issue...
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at July 17, 2024 11:36 AM (JLq/1)
Ronny Jackson Trump's WH physician, said that he saw the wound and those types of injuries have a tendency to continue bleeding thus the bandage
Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2024 11:38 AM (IyPmt)
I was more thinking it was there to prevent any chance of infection...changed daily (b/c you could tell it was a new one) til the wound is completely closed and out of danger of that issue...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 17, 2024 11:40 AM (exHjb)
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9/11 that is
Posted by: runner at July 17, 2024 11:40 AM (V13WU)
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You got me looking up what a "THOT" is, so now I am a more educated person! But I'm not sure I want to know what "SM" is ...
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 17, 2024 11:36 AM (hOOi9)
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SM = social media
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:38 AM (iFTx/)
I thought maybe you meant sadomasochism.
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 17, 2024 11:36 AM (hOOi9)
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SM = social media
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:38 AM (iFTx/)
I thought maybe you meant sadomasochism.
Posted by: Robert at July 17, 2024 11:40 AM (1Yy3c)
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It isn't reasonable, but I can see it - even if only as a bit of after-the-fact ass covering. When something or someone fails, fall back on protocol and "safety" considerations. It's SOP.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
That's the ass covering lying that will get you canned toot sweet in the business world.
You're lying. I know you're lying. You know I know you're lying. Out the door you go. We'll pack up your desk and mail your shit to you.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
That's the ass covering lying that will get you canned toot sweet in the business world.
You're lying. I know you're lying. You know I know you're lying. Out the door you go. We'll pack up your desk and mail your shit to you.
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 17, 2024 11:40 AM (f5vQ9)
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I'm still waiting for the truly competent Boss Lady who got to where she is through actual excellence. They must be out there, no? Unfortunately all I see are DEI hires, fail-upwards mediocrities, and far too many sucked-the-right-dicks half-whores. ...
Posted by: Elric Blade
We are few and far between.
Posted by: Elric Blade
We are few and far between.
Posted by: Zombie Margaret Thatcher at July 17, 2024 11:41 AM (JCZqz)
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I'm waiting on the following from the Biden campaign:
"Due to the ongoing threat from MAGA reprisals, Joe Biden will not be appearing in public."
"Due to the ongoing threat from MAGA reprisals, Joe Biden will not be appearing in public."
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 17, 2024 11:41 AM (2UnvF)
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I love this idea that certain people are just too immoral to represent Donald Trump as the candidate chosen to lead the party.
I guess mind pretzels aren't the sole province of the Left.
And if it's supposed to be about Christianity, then again I missed something because I believe God said we were all sinners and to please leave the judgment to him.
I guess mind pretzels aren't the sole province of the Left.
And if it's supposed to be about Christianity, then again I missed something because I believe God said we were all sinners and to please leave the judgment to him.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2024 11:41 AM (QlxXp)
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My interpretation of what I saw in the video is that Trump hit the deck, the Secret Service rushed over to cover him, then he popped back up pretty quickly. It struck me as reckless, and probably not what was supposed to happen.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:12 AM (HnUIn)
In fairness to the USSS agents at the stage, I believe they were shouting at him to get down when he hit the deck.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:12 AM (HnUIn)
In fairness to the USSS agents at the stage, I believe they were shouting at him to get down when he hit the deck.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2024 11:41 AM (IUd0M)
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When I was younger than 29 there was a bar I hung out in. One of the other denizens was a guy who was about six six and 350 lbs. Naturally his nick was Tiny. He finished every sentence with "but annywaaay" . Biden any huge or drunk so it's definitely a dementia deflection
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2024 11:42 AM (zte34)
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There's a reason so many younger girls are promiscuous THOTs obsessed with SM adoration by slutting it up. They inherently see what conduct gets rewarded and emulate it.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024
I did pretty well for myself in a male dominated field. 😀. I then walked away from it (because I had to) and am now a small business owner who can only because of the patriarchy. I did it all backwards.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2024 11:33 AM (pZEOD)
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Nice work but I suspect you're a little older than 29. You're probably Gen X as am I. I'm talking about the young girls and ladies coming up now. It's a different world.
Yes, some young ladies of course are doing it the right way. But there are way too many wannabe whores who sense that's the way to the top, and there's a lot of evidence that they are right.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024
I did pretty well for myself in a male dominated field. 😀. I then walked away from it (because I had to) and am now a small business owner who can only because of the patriarchy. I did it all backwards.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2024 11:33 AM (pZEOD)
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Nice work but I suspect you're a little older than 29. You're probably Gen X as am I. I'm talking about the young girls and ladies coming up now. It's a different world.
Yes, some young ladies of course are doing it the right way. But there are way too many wannabe whores who sense that's the way to the top, and there's a lot of evidence that they are right.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:42 AM (iFTx/)
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Saw that on CFP or Rantingly earlier. He can propose whatever he wants regarding SCOTUS. The separation of powers will keep him from legally doing anything.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 17, 2024 11:34 AM (N39Ws)
and politically, it's incredibly stupid - nobody wants this except the rad left, and they're already in Biden's pocket. It's going to lose him more votes than it gains.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 17, 2024 11:34 AM (N39Ws)
and politically, it's incredibly stupid - nobody wants this except the rad left, and they're already in Biden's pocket. It's going to lose him more votes than it gains.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2024 11:42 AM (wyMQY)
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SM = social media
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:38 AM (iFTx/)
I thought maybe you meant sadomasochism.
Posted by: Robert at July 17, 2024 11:40 AM (1Yy3c)
I thought Straight Male
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:38 AM (iFTx/)
I thought maybe you meant sadomasochism.
Posted by: Robert at July 17, 2024 11:40 AM (1Yy3c)
I thought Straight Male
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2024 11:42 AM (QlxXp)
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266 I love this idea that certain people are just too immoral to represent Donald Trump as the candidate chosen to lead the party.
I guess mind pretzels aren't the sole province of the Left.
And if it's supposed to be about Christianity, then again I missed something because I believe God said we were all sinners and to please leave the judgment to him.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2024 11:41 AM (QlxXp)
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It's people like those who run the Babylon Bee who are having trouble separating their religion from their political party.
Oh, and Milo.
I guess mind pretzels aren't the sole province of the Left.
And if it's supposed to be about Christianity, then again I missed something because I believe God said we were all sinners and to please leave the judgment to him.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2024 11:41 AM (QlxXp)
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It's people like those who run the Babylon Bee who are having trouble separating their religion from their political party.
Oh, and Milo.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 11:43 AM (GBKbO)
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252 Jill loves the pomp of being First Lady.
She would throw a fit if she didn't have a heavy security presence around her.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 17, 2024 11:38 AM (uxCna)
That's DOCTOR First Lady, hater.
She didn't spend a night writing a term paper to be called Jill.
She would throw a fit if she didn't have a heavy security presence around her.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 17, 2024 11:38 AM (uxCna)
That's DOCTOR First Lady, hater.
She didn't spend a night writing a term paper to be called Jill.
Posted by: Auspex at July 17, 2024 11:43 AM (j4U/Z)
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I’m sorry. This is probably a stupid question, but what is a dicknose? Does that mean somebody who has a nose that looks like a penis, . a reference to Cruz being gay-. He is?!’ Or just a reference to being clueless? Really?!!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2024 11:43 AM (M2++h)
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264 I'm still waiting for the truly competent Boss Lady who got to where she is through actual excellence. They must be out there, no? Unfortunately all I see are DEI hires, fail-upwards mediocrities, and far too many sucked-the-right-dicks half-whores. ...
Posted by: Elric Blade
We are few and far between.
Posted by: Zombie Margaret Thatcher at July 17, 2024 11:41 AM (JCZqz)
We usually stepped out to have the kids and help the spouse...why are the best leaders for us the ones with the most conservative and competent spouses?
Posted by: Elric Blade
We are few and far between.
Posted by: Zombie Margaret Thatcher at July 17, 2024 11:41 AM (JCZqz)
We usually stepped out to have the kids and help the spouse...why are the best leaders for us the ones with the most conservative and competent spouses?
Posted by: Nova Local at July 17, 2024 11:43 AM (exHjb)
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Mrs. Clinton is the textbook DEI hire. Competent at being a crook, perhaps.
Grifting carpetbagger.
Grifting carpetbagger.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2024 11:43 AM (u/QE9)
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I was more thinking it was there to prevent any chance of infection...changed daily (b/c you could tell it was a new one) til the wound is completely closed and out of danger of that issue...
Posted by: Nova Local
It's to hide his earpiece feeding him lines during the convention!!!
Posted by: Nova Local
It's to hide his earpiece feeding him lines during the convention!!!
Posted by: Leftist Rational Conspiracy Theorists at July 17, 2024 11:43 AM (JCZqz)
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Owen Gregorian @OwenGregorian 3h
Huma Abedin, Alex Soros ready to start a family and want kids — but she’s still not divorced from Anthony Weiner | NY Post
Don’t expect new power couple Huma Abedin and Alex Soros to wed too soon — because Abedin is still not divorced from disgraced politician Anthony Weiner, sources confirm.
The former aide to Hillary Clinton, 47, and the son of billionaire Democratic donor George Soros, 38, announced their engagement last week.
Soros proposed in May in NYC with a dazzling diamond rumored to cost around a million dollars, and the duo later celebrated their engagement in Italy.
The brunette filed for divorce from Weiner in May 2017, nine months after he became embroiled in a sexting scandal that followed years of similar indiscretions.
Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 1h
Never include Hillary in your throuple.
Huma Abedin, Alex Soros ready to start a family and want kids — but she’s still not divorced from Anthony Weiner | NY Post
Don’t expect new power couple Huma Abedin and Alex Soros to wed too soon — because Abedin is still not divorced from disgraced politician Anthony Weiner, sources confirm.
The former aide to Hillary Clinton, 47, and the son of billionaire Democratic donor George Soros, 38, announced their engagement last week.
Soros proposed in May in NYC with a dazzling diamond rumored to cost around a million dollars, and the duo later celebrated their engagement in Italy.
The brunette filed for divorce from Weiner in May 2017, nine months after he became embroiled in a sexting scandal that followed years of similar indiscretions.
Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 1h
Never include Hillary in your throuple.
Posted by: andycanuck (Jh5b+) at July 17, 2024 11:43 AM (wse2C)
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"I guess mind pretzels aren't the sole province of the Left."
see also: History started this morning.
see also: History started this morning.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at July 17, 2024 11:43 AM (Z8Yh2)
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I read that, too. I think the writer was a victim of autocucumber. Bet you he typed something closer to "unbeatable."
Posted by: red speck at July 17, 2024 11:34 AM (0Id0S)
Makes sense.
There's still a certain amount of that nonsense where people still say Trump is some sort of malignant narcissist who's just in it to glorify himself, in here, so that did not occur to me.
Posted by: red speck at July 17, 2024 11:34 AM (0Id0S)
Makes sense.
There's still a certain amount of that nonsense where people still say Trump is some sort of malignant narcissist who's just in it to glorify himself, in here, so that did not occur to me.
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 17, 2024 11:43 AM (hOOi9)
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So now I read there was no ladder. That makes the story of the police officer on the shoulders of another officer possible.
Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2024 11:44 AM (B1dzx)
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That's the ass covering lying that will get you canned toot sweet in the business world.
You're lying. I know you're lying. You know I know you're lying. Out the door you go. We'll pack up your desk and mail your shit to you.
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 17, 2024 11:40 AM (f5vQ9)
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Government ain't business.
And even business is *way* more tolerant of this than it used to be. Free money makes lots of things possible. Thankfully, the era of free money is winding down.
You're lying. I know you're lying. You know I know you're lying. Out the door you go. We'll pack up your desk and mail your shit to you.
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 17, 2024 11:40 AM (f5vQ9)
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Government ain't business.
And even business is *way* more tolerant of this than it used to be. Free money makes lots of things possible. Thankfully, the era of free money is winding down.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:44 AM (HnUIn)
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They scheduled DOCTOR Jill's appearance in Western Pennsylvania a week after they knew that Trump would be appearing in Western Pennsylvania at the same time.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 17, 2024 11:15 AM (uxCna)
And they pulled security off Trump, including a counter-sniper team, in favor of Jill. That has always been one of the most damning aspects of the whole thing to me. Not that the agents on the ground were involved, but that the higher-ups set it up.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 17, 2024 11:15 AM (uxCna)
And they pulled security off Trump, including a counter-sniper team, in favor of Jill. That has always been one of the most damning aspects of the whole thing to me. Not that the agents on the ground were involved, but that the higher-ups set it up.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2024 11:44 AM (IUd0M)
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229 I'm seeing people on X trying to make an issue about the size of the bandage on Trump's ear. WTF?
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at July 17, 2024 11:36 AM (JLq/1)
It's laughably pathetic when they've got to sink that low to find something to criticize.
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at July 17, 2024 11:36 AM (JLq/1)
It's laughably pathetic when they've got to sink that low to find something to criticize.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2024 11:44 AM (wyMQY)
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 17, 2024 11:45 AM (6TUIG)
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Huma Abedin, Alex Soros ready to start a family and want kids — but she’s still not divorced from Anthony Weiner | NY Post
The former aide to Hillary Clinton, 47, and the son of billionaire Democratic donor George Soros, 38, announced their engagement last week.
Ummmm.....
The former aide to Hillary Clinton, 47, and the son of billionaire Democratic donor George Soros, 38, announced their engagement last week.
Ummmm.....
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2024 11:45 AM (xCA6C)
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The next debate should be interesting. The competence of various agencies under Joe might be an issue.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 17, 2024 11:45 AM (tT6L1)
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The question isn't why Jill would need top security, it's why was she less than an hour away at the same time on a Saturday. It's a big country with lots of swing states.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2024 11:45 AM (QlxXp)
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@OwenGregorian
Huma Abedin, Alex Soros ready to start a family and want kids — but she’s still not divorced from Anthony Weiner | NY Post
...
The former aide to Hillary Clinton, 47, and the son of billionaire Democratic donor George Soros, 38, announced their engagement last week. ...
Posted by: andycanuck (Jh5b+) at July 17, 2024 11:43 AM (wse2C)
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One of these is a much bigger problem than the other.
Huma Abedin, Alex Soros ready to start a family and want kids — but she’s still not divorced from Anthony Weiner | NY Post
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The former aide to Hillary Clinton, 47, and the son of billionaire Democratic donor George Soros, 38, announced their engagement last week. ...
Posted by: andycanuck (Jh5b+) at July 17, 2024 11:43 AM (wse2C)
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One of these is a much bigger problem than the other.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:45 AM (HnUIn)
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Trump ought to put MAGA or a skull and crossbones on his bandage
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2024 11:45 AM (zte34)
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Again, we are hearing from real world operators on how security is supposed to be handled and it's painting a very nefarious picture.
If you are not going to put snipers on a roof of building that is around 1/10th the distance counter snipers train out to, you wring, barricade or seal off access to that building so that a twenty year lugging a rifle and ladder can't just stroll up and live out his Carlos Hathcock fantasy.
If you are not going to put snipers on a roof of building that is around 1/10th the distance counter snipers train out to, you wring, barricade or seal off access to that building so that a twenty year lugging a rifle and ladder can't just stroll up and live out his Carlos Hathcock fantasy.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 17, 2024 11:45 AM (XV/Pl)
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278 Owen Gregorian @OwenGregorian 3h
Huma Abedin, Alex Soros ready to start a family and want kids — but she’s still not divorced from Anthony Weiner | NY Post
She's 47
Huma Abedin, Alex Soros ready to start a family and want kids — but she’s still not divorced from Anthony Weiner | NY Post
She's 47
Posted by: It's me donna at July 17, 2024 11:46 AM (IyPmt)
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Ummmm.....
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2024 11:45 AM (xCA6C)
It's a little early, but she feels ready now.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2024 11:45 AM (xCA6C)
It's a little early, but she feels ready now.
Posted by: spindrift at July 17, 2024 11:46 AM (OguvZ)
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This smiling brunette knows that I hold a minority position on this, but appreciates the largely polite disagreement and wants to celebrate the Horde with a delicious dessert:
Very pretty. I want to protect her.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2024 11:38 AM
Definitely a cutie.
Very pretty. I want to protect her.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2024 11:38 AM
Definitely a cutie.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 17, 2024 11:46 AM (ZANHd)
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269. Yes, some young ladies of course are doing it the right way. But there are way too many wannabe whores who sense that's the way to the top, and there's a lot of evidence that they are right.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024
I am Gen X. Sadly, past 29. But I do not feel like it at all.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024
I am Gen X. Sadly, past 29. But I do not feel like it at all.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2024 11:46 AM (pZEOD)
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A more disturbing perspective is that the crumbling structure of the SS is parallels and is emblematic of what is happening in the armed forces. It's a bit like dry rot, not apparent until stressed, but there, and insidious.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at July 17, 2024 11:46 AM (XeU6L)
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This was no boating accident. It wasn't any propeller. It wasn't any coral reef. And it wasn't Jack the Ripper. It was the Deep State.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson DeSantis/Lake 2024 at July 17, 2024 11:46 AM (wGerL)
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S&M >>>>> SM
Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 17, 2024 11:46 AM (wse2C)
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"Motherland" and "Fatherland" are too divisive.
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No one has proposed "BirthingPersonLand" yet?
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No one has proposed "BirthingPersonLand" yet?
Posted by: screaming in digital at July 17, 2024 11:46 AM (iZbyp)
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Agent: Sir, there's a kid walking around out here with a suspiciously large backpack and a ladder.
Supervising Agent: Go to lunch.
Agent: Sir, he's now going up on the roof of that building you told us to stay off of!
Supervising Agent: I SAID GO TO LUNCH, NOW.
Supervising Agent: Go to lunch.
Agent: Sir, he's now going up on the roof of that building you told us to stay off of!
Supervising Agent: I SAID GO TO LUNCH, NOW.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at July 17, 2024 11:46 AM (qUkBO)
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SM = social media
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:38 AM (iFTx/)
I thought maybe you meant sadomasochism.
Posted by: Robert at July 17, 2024 11:40 AM (1Yy3c)
Me too. Thanks for the clarification!
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:38 AM (iFTx/)
I thought maybe you meant sadomasochism.
Posted by: Robert at July 17, 2024 11:40 AM (1Yy3c)
Me too. Thanks for the clarification!
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 17, 2024 11:46 AM (hOOi9)
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Huma Weiner is still the funniest married name ever
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2024 11:46 AM (zte34)
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So now I read there was no ladder. That makes the story of the police officer on the shoulders of another officer possible.
Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2024 11:44 AM (B1dzx)
So I guess the shooter just used the nearby Mario Bros style warp pipe to get up there?
Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2024 11:44 AM (B1dzx)
So I guess the shooter just used the nearby Mario Bros style warp pipe to get up there?
Posted by: Doof at July 17, 2024 11:46 AM (RhGG0)
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* is
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at July 17, 2024 11:46 AM (XeU6L)
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> I'm waiting on the following from the Biden campaign:
"Due to the ongoing threat from MAGA reprisals, Joe Biden will not be appearing in public."
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Rather than "MAGA" I wonder how the *biden's would react to a credible threat from some Iranian terrorist organization. Imagine Jill, sitting in the limo, Joe staring blankly out the window and an agent tells her that.
Followed by "no joke."
Real, honest to God fear does things. These people currently have nothing to fear. That needs to change.
"Due to the ongoing threat from MAGA reprisals, Joe Biden will not be appearing in public."
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Rather than "MAGA" I wonder how the *biden's would react to a credible threat from some Iranian terrorist organization. Imagine Jill, sitting in the limo, Joe staring blankly out the window and an agent tells her that.
Followed by "no joke."
Real, honest to God fear does things. These people currently have nothing to fear. That needs to change.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 17, 2024 11:46 AM (Q4IgG)
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A tweet from Zerohedge says Nikki Haley is lobbying Trump's people for the Secretary of State job.
Stop laughing. We're supposed to be all unified and shit.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 17, 2024 11:16 AM (woPEM)
IIRC, she toed the line pretty well as Ambassador to the UN. Trump does a good bit of his own diplomacy. Might not be a terrible idea. Although, where does SoS fall in the line of succession?
Stop laughing. We're supposed to be all unified and shit.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 17, 2024 11:16 AM (woPEM)
IIRC, she toed the line pretty well as Ambassador to the UN. Trump does a good bit of his own diplomacy. Might not be a terrible idea. Although, where does SoS fall in the line of succession?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2024 11:47 AM (IUd0M)
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249 These people in their bubbles are not very bright,
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2024 11:11 AM (n+prZ)
Everyone they know thinks as they do. It's inconceivable to do otherwise.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2024 11:38 AM (IUd0M)
The bubble is one thing. These people all think they're smart and clever. They haven't excreted a fart they didn't love and wish they could hold onto.
This is why they find people like Colbert funny.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2024 11:11 AM (n+prZ)
Everyone they know thinks as they do. It's inconceivable to do otherwise.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2024 11:38 AM (IUd0M)
The bubble is one thing. These people all think they're smart and clever. They haven't excreted a fart they didn't love and wish they could hold onto.
This is why they find people like Colbert funny.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 17, 2024 11:47 AM (KbCG3)
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So I guess the shooter just used the nearby Mario Bros style warp pipe to get up there?
Posted by: Doof at July 17, 2024 11:46 AM (RhGG0)
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Or climbed a standpipe or something. Dunno. I hope some details keep leaking out.
Posted by: Doof at July 17, 2024 11:46 AM (RhGG0)
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Or climbed a standpipe or something. Dunno. I hope some details keep leaking out.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:47 AM (HnUIn)
Posted by: Ted Torgerson DeSantis/Lake 2024 at July 17, 2024 11:47 AM (wGerL)
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I'm still waiting for the truly competent Boss Lady who got to where she is through actual excellence. They must be out there, no? Unfortunately all I see are DEI hires, fail-upwards mediocrities, and far too many sucked-the-right-dicks half-whores. ...
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:30 AM (iFTx/)
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There are a few. I think Hillary Clinton is one of them. She used Bill and her family's money and position to build a major political empire. She failed in her bid to take it over as the public face by becoming president, but she is responsible for Bill's meteoric rise and she formed him into the tool for her ambition. She was not entirely successful, but she had a hell of a run.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:32 AM (HnUIn)
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That to me is getting to the top through the right dick. True, she may have had a plan in mind -- a lot of fuck-to-the-top girls do -- and executed it, but without Bill nobody would have known her name. He was the rocket. She was the remora. Her vaunted legal practice was nothing until Bill became gov and she suddenly was super-connected to the political scene.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:30 AM (iFTx/)
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There are a few. I think Hillary Clinton is one of them. She used Bill and her family's money and position to build a major political empire. She failed in her bid to take it over as the public face by becoming president, but she is responsible for Bill's meteoric rise and she formed him into the tool for her ambition. She was not entirely successful, but she had a hell of a run.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:32 AM (HnUIn)
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That to me is getting to the top through the right dick. True, she may have had a plan in mind -- a lot of fuck-to-the-top girls do -- and executed it, but without Bill nobody would have known her name. He was the rocket. She was the remora. Her vaunted legal practice was nothing until Bill became gov and she suddenly was super-connected to the political scene.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:47 AM (iFTx/)
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Dan Bongino doesn't think much of his former employer nor the FBI. He even went so far as to admit he couldn't outright dismiss the idea it was an inside job.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 17, 2024 11:47 AM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Lance Bottoms at July 17, 2024 11:47 AM (XeU6L)
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And they pulled security off Trump, including a counter-sniper team, in favor of Jill. That has always been one of the most damning aspects of the whole thing to me. Not that the agents on the ground were involved, but that the higher-ups set it up.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2024 11:44 AM (IUd0M)
Who would show up to hear Jill talk? Seriously. I wouldn't invite her to a Walmart ribbon cutting.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2024 11:44 AM (IUd0M)
Who would show up to hear Jill talk? Seriously. I wouldn't invite her to a Walmart ribbon cutting.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2024 11:47 AM (wyMQY)
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Soros marries a 47 year old and wants kids? OK then.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at July 17, 2024 11:47 AM (Z8Yh2)
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I'm still waiting for the truly competent Boss Lady who got to where she is through actual excellence. They must be out there, no? Unfortunately all I see are DEI hires, fail-upwards mediocrities, and far too many sucked-the-right-dicks half-whores. ...
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:30 AM
We are there. However, to be a Cheatle or Harris, one must sell her soul and a real good boss lady doesn't do that - integrity goes along with being excellent. There are highly competent women in the business world and some in politics but most rose before the DEI madness began or had support from an equally excellent team of personnel.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:30 AM
We are there. However, to be a Cheatle or Harris, one must sell her soul and a real good boss lady doesn't do that - integrity goes along with being excellent. There are highly competent women in the business world and some in politics but most rose before the DEI madness began or had support from an equally excellent team of personnel.
Posted by: Cheri at July 17, 2024 11:48 AM (oiNtH)
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The question isn't why Jill would need top security, it's why was she less than an hour away at the same time on a Saturday. It's a big country with lots of swing states.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2024 11:45 AM (QlxXp)
Probably so she could give the shooter a ride.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2024 11:45 AM (QlxXp)
Probably so she could give the shooter a ride.
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 17, 2024 11:48 AM (hOOi9)
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How long before they start calling Trump a crybaby and a wimp for making a big deal about a little scratch on his ear.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2024 11:48 AM (QlxXp)
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That these too immoral people can say that with a straight face but have no problem with a President that uses a young girl as a humidor in the Oval Office is the definition of a psychopath.
Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2024 11:48 AM (B1dzx)
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2024 11:48 AM (QlxXp)
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311 Dan Bongino doesn't think much of his former employer nor the FBI. He even went so far as to admit he couldn't outright dismiss the idea it was an inside job.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 17, 2024 11:47 AM (tT6L1)
Bongino should be Trump's head of the Secret Service.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 17, 2024 11:47 AM (tT6L1)
Bongino should be Trump's head of the Secret Service.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2024 11:48 AM (wyMQY)
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The comment the Trump campaign put out on the secret service says a lot without saying much. There is no we have full confidence. There is no we are well taken care of. It's obvious they are not happy with the secret service's performance. And nor should they be. Trump needs to rely on his own private security.
Posted by: redbanzai at July 17, 2024 11:48 AM (INH2d)
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Remember if something happens to Biden it doesn't matter much (besides fighting over who gets a bigger share of the looting) - they can easily replace him with some other leftist
But Trump? They might just be able to badly damage our reform movement if they kill him...which is why assassination has become the obvious choice for the left.
But Trump? They might just be able to badly damage our reform movement if they kill him...which is why assassination has become the obvious choice for the left.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2024 11:48 AM (oZhjI)
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Huma Weiner is still the funniest married name ever
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Posted by: Lance Bottoms
Please...
Posted by: Steele Johnson at July 17, 2024 11:48 AM (xCA6C)
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This was an op.
The USSS may or may not have been it.
Someone in the USSS may or may not have been it.
Another faction in the Left may or may not have been it.
We may never know but consider this (from ONT):
Firstly how did the assassin walk through security and crowds with a ladder and a rifle, not necessarily at the same time? Or were those stashed on site previously?
Secondly, the day before he went to the range and then went to the hardware store to buy a ladder and ammo. So he already knew he needed a ladder. Had he scouted the shooting location prior to this? Or had someone told him he would need a ladder?
The images of the strategically placed ladder have emerged as Secret Service admit they did not sweep the building where the shooter took his position, but instead entrusted that role to local law enforcement officers.
https://mol.im/a/13635887
Apparently at school he was a computer whizz. Hard to argue such a person NOT having a social medium presence somewhere.
The USSS may or may not have been it.
Someone in the USSS may or may not have been it.
Another faction in the Left may or may not have been it.
We may never know but consider this (from ONT):
Firstly how did the assassin walk through security and crowds with a ladder and a rifle, not necessarily at the same time? Or were those stashed on site previously?
Secondly, the day before he went to the range and then went to the hardware store to buy a ladder and ammo. So he already knew he needed a ladder. Had he scouted the shooting location prior to this? Or had someone told him he would need a ladder?
The images of the strategically placed ladder have emerged as Secret Service admit they did not sweep the building where the shooter took his position, but instead entrusted that role to local law enforcement officers.
https://mol.im/a/13635887
Apparently at school he was a computer whizz. Hard to argue such a person NOT having a social medium presence somewhere.
Posted by: Ciampino - Wed Update #01 at July 17, 2024 11:48 AM (qfLjt)
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Medicare (well, CMS, which includes Medicaid and some other things, but it's mostly Medicare) is the whole problem, and everyone at high levels knows it. Since that is the real issue, they play with Social Security instead so that they don't have to do anything and can get cheap soundbites while the government goes bankrupt.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:17 AM (HnUIn)
TPTB want CMS to collapse so they can move to single-payer, which would be worse.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:17 AM (HnUIn)
TPTB want CMS to collapse so they can move to single-payer, which would be worse.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2024 11:48 AM (IUd0M)
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There was a movie years ago with Shirley McClain and Nicolas Cage about a secret service guy protecting a very senior first lady roughly based on Bess Truman.
Guessing Dr. Jill will require a staff of 30.
There was a movie years ago with Shirley McClain and Nicolas Cage about a secret service guy protecting a very senior first lady roughly based on Bess Truman.
Guessing Dr. Jill will require a staff of 30.
Posted by: Auspex at July 17, 2024 11:49 AM (j4U/Z)
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290 Trump ought to put MAGA or a skull and crossbones on his bandage
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2024 11:45 AM (zte34)
Excellent notion, and make the bandage big enough to put the entire constitution on it, with signatures.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2024 11:45 AM (zte34)
Excellent notion, and make the bandage big enough to put the entire constitution on it, with signatures.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 17, 2024 11:49 AM (pohLc)
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And here comes work. Hope you all have a lovely weekend.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 17, 2024 11:49 AM (Q0kLU)
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That to me is getting to the top through the right dick. True, she may have had a plan in mind -- a lot of fuck-to-the-top girls do -- and executed it, but without Bill nobody would have known her name. He was the rocket. She was the remora. Her vaunted legal practice was nothing until Bill became gov and she suddenly was super-connected to the political scene.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:47 AM (iFTx/)
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Perhaps. I think it's more on Hillary than on Bill. He was a handsome, charismatic and unaccomplished political animal before she began grooming him.
I think, to use your comparison, they fucked each other to the top. She had the money, northern connections and intelligence; he had the charisma and public ambition. Neither were stupid, but Hillary is clearly the brains of the outfit.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 11:47 AM (iFTx/)
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Perhaps. I think it's more on Hillary than on Bill. He was a handsome, charismatic and unaccomplished political animal before she began grooming him.
I think, to use your comparison, they fucked each other to the top. She had the money, northern connections and intelligence; he had the charisma and public ambition. Neither were stupid, but Hillary is clearly the brains of the outfit.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:49 AM (HnUIn)
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>There is still zero explanation of how the shooter lugged a twenty-foot ladder a mile to the shooting site.
It was a twelve foot ladder. Still stupid heavy. The dude wasn't looking for an opening while lugging it around.
Similar it's hard to get a good description of the rifle.
Posted by: BourbonChicken
Daily Mail reports the local cops saying he climbed up the AC equipment, which is clearly visible in the pics of the building, and easily climbable. The 12 foot ladder behind the tree, and *right next to the police car* is most likely, IMO, the ladder cops used to go up and check the shooters pulse.
A twenty year old doesn't need a ladder to get on top of a building like this. Ask this former avid hacky-sack player how he knows. He may have bought a ladder, and reports say he had a receipt, but walking a mile with it? Nah.
It was a twelve foot ladder. Still stupid heavy. The dude wasn't looking for an opening while lugging it around.
Similar it's hard to get a good description of the rifle.
Posted by: BourbonChicken
Daily Mail reports the local cops saying he climbed up the AC equipment, which is clearly visible in the pics of the building, and easily climbable. The 12 foot ladder behind the tree, and *right next to the police car* is most likely, IMO, the ladder cops used to go up and check the shooters pulse.
A twenty year old doesn't need a ladder to get on top of a building like this. Ask this former avid hacky-sack player how he knows. He may have bought a ladder, and reports say he had a receipt, but walking a mile with it? Nah.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 17, 2024 11:49 AM (iRX3h)
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314 Soros marries a 47 year old and wants kids? OK then.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at July 17, 2024 11:47 AM (Z8Yh2)
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I'm guessing she has some of her eggs frozen for starters.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at July 17, 2024 11:47 AM (Z8Yh2)
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I'm guessing she has some of her eggs frozen for starters.
Posted by: WisRich at July 17, 2024 11:49 AM (G0vdT)
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David Axelrod @davidaxelrod 12h
Let's be clear:
The incidence of illegal immigrants voting is negligible--a complete canard, freely trafficked by R.N.C. speakers tonight.
The most nakedly false and despicable line came from Ted Cruz, describing violent crimes committed by immigrants.
"This is all because Democrats decided they wanted votes from illegals more than they wanted to protect our children."
Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 1h
I wish we had credible news sources. Then we wouldn't have this kind of problem.
Let's be clear:
The incidence of illegal immigrants voting is negligible--a complete canard, freely trafficked by R.N.C. speakers tonight.
The most nakedly false and despicable line came from Ted Cruz, describing violent crimes committed by immigrants.
"This is all because Democrats decided they wanted votes from illegals more than they wanted to protect our children."
Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 1h
I wish we had credible news sources. Then we wouldn't have this kind of problem.
Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 17, 2024 11:50 AM (wse2C)
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I wouldn't trust Soros spawn around children.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 17, 2024 11:50 AM (tT6L1)
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Boomer: Millennial, take this
*baton glows with sunlight*
*passes the baton*
Gen-X: I'm standing right here asshole.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 17, 2024 11:18 AM (cf/0E)
Isn't Harris Gen-X?
*baton glows with sunlight*
*passes the baton*
Gen-X: I'm standing right here asshole.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 17, 2024 11:18 AM (cf/0E)
Isn't Harris Gen-X?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2024 11:50 AM (IUd0M)
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314 Soros marries a 47 year old and wants kids? OK then.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at July 17, 2024
It’s technically possible. Especially if she is heading into menopause and not all ready there. Your body has a bit of a going out of business sale with your eggs right then. But she is on the upper range of that.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at July 17, 2024
It’s technically possible. Especially if she is heading into menopause and not all ready there. Your body has a bit of a going out of business sale with your eggs right then. But she is on the upper range of that.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2024 11:51 AM (pZEOD)
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>>So now I read there was no ladder. That makes the story of the police officer on the shoulders of another officer possible.
There is literally pictures of a ladder against the side of the building. So whoever is saying that is lying.
Go to the bottom of the link below and you can see the ladder against the building.
https://tinyurl.com/5n789t7t
>>So now I read there was no ladder. That makes the story of the police officer on the shoulders of another officer possible.
There is literally pictures of a ladder against the side of the building. So whoever is saying that is lying.
Go to the bottom of the link below and you can see the ladder against the building.
https://tinyurl.com/5n789t7t
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 17, 2024 11:51 AM (XV/Pl)
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"And if it's supposed to be about Christianity, then again I missed something because I believe God said we were all sinners and to please leave the judgment to him."
On a related note, Trumps are now saying what the GOPe has been saying for years that we need to stop pushing the culture war, but because Trumps say it I'm now supposed to be all in. Abortions and gay marriage never hurt anyone, right?
On a related note, Trumps are now saying what the GOPe has been saying for years that we need to stop pushing the culture war, but because Trumps say it I'm now supposed to be all in. Abortions and gay marriage never hurt anyone, right?
Posted by: Ribbed at July 17, 2024 11:51 AM (Ectld)
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317 How long before they start calling Trump a crybaby and a wimp for making a big deal about a little scratch on his ear.
they're already complaining that his bandage is larger than necessary for theatrical effect
they're already complaining that his bandage is larger than necessary for theatrical effect
Posted by: anachronda at July 17, 2024 11:51 AM (oY6Yp)
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The images of the strategically placed ladder have emerged as Secret Service admit they did not sweep the building where the shooter took his position, but instead entrusted that role to local law enforcement officers.
https://mol.im/a/13635887
Apparently at school he was a computer whizz.
The picture of him at the link confirms that he was not a handsome lad. I return to my original thesis: he couldn't get any, and that sent him round the bend. Ladies, you are to blame for this.
https://mol.im/a/13635887
Apparently at school he was a computer whizz.
The picture of him at the link confirms that he was not a handsome lad. I return to my original thesis: he couldn't get any, and that sent him round the bend. Ladies, you are to blame for this.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2024 11:51 AM (xCA6C)
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Soros marries a 47 year old and wants kids? OK then.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at July 17, 2024 11:47 AM
She better check the fine print on the contract with Mr. Applegate.
Soros marries a 47 year old and wants kids? OK then.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at July 17, 2024 11:47 AM
She better check the fine print on the contract with Mr. Applegate.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 17, 2024 11:51 AM (RKVpM)
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SM
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I love how in polite online company, men all have to pretend to be the M.
For example "abuse me, Karen Gillan!"
We don't really want that stuff. My word as a Biden.
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I love how in polite online company, men all have to pretend to be the M.
For example "abuse me, Karen Gillan!"
We don't really want that stuff. My word as a Biden.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2024 11:51 AM (QlxXp)
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My interpretation of what I saw in the video is that Trump hit the deck, the Secret Service rushed over to cover him, then he popped back up pretty quickly. It struck me as reckless, and probably not what was supposed to happen.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
Trump is 6'3". Those garden gnome girlbosses were 5'5". Of course Trump is going to "pop up".
They couldn't cover him if they tried.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
Trump is 6'3". Those garden gnome girlbosses were 5'5". Of course Trump is going to "pop up".
They couldn't cover him if they tried.
Posted by: rickb223 All conspiracy theories and spoiler alerts are on the table at July 17, 2024 11:52 AM (f5vQ9)
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Milo was quite the new and interesting provocateur back in 2015ish. Now look at him:
https://tinyurl.com/3pnkkc78
I'm guessing he was always a little odd, and the combination of sudden fame, success and an "alternative lifestyle" caught up to him. I think he also started hanging around other unstable, fringe people that enhanced his crazy instead of moderating and better focusing it.
https://tinyurl.com/3pnkkc78
I'm guessing he was always a little odd, and the combination of sudden fame, success and an "alternative lifestyle" caught up to him. I think he also started hanging around other unstable, fringe people that enhanced his crazy instead of moderating and better focusing it.
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at July 17, 2024 11:52 AM (JCZqz)
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So I guess the shooter just used the nearby Mario Bros style warp pipe to get up there?
Posted by: Doof at July 17, 2024 11:46 AM (RhGG0)
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Or climbed a standpipe or something. Dunno. I hope some details keep leaking out.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:47 AM (HnUIn)
Something about using the A/c unit system to climb to the roof.
Posted by: Doof at July 17, 2024 11:46 AM (RhGG0)
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Or climbed a standpipe or something. Dunno. I hope some details keep leaking out.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:47 AM (HnUIn)
Something about using the A/c unit system to climb to the roof.
Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2024 11:52 AM (B1dzx)
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Daily Mail reports the local cops saying he climbed up the AC equipment, which is clearly visible in the pics of the building, and easily climbable. The 12 foot ladder behind the tree, and *right next to the police car* is most likely, IMO, the ladder cops used to go up and check the shooters pulse.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 17, 2024 11:49 AM (iRX3h)
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Just leaving a ladder out, available for anyone to use during a Trump Rally. More incompetence or more Op?
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 17, 2024 11:49 AM (iRX3h)
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Just leaving a ladder out, available for anyone to use during a Trump Rally. More incompetence or more Op?
Posted by: WisRich at July 17, 2024 11:52 AM (G0vdT)
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David Axelrod darn well knows illegals are killing Americans, trafficking children, getting benefits and voting.
He's lying. But, that's what he gets paid to do.
He's lying. But, that's what he gets paid to do.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 17, 2024 11:52 AM (tT6L1)
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I’m sorry. This is probably a stupid question, but what is a dicknose? Does that mean somebody who has a nose that looks like a penis, . a reference to Cruz being gay-. He is?!’ Or just a reference to being clueless? Really?!!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2024 11:43 AM (M2++h)
As with any vulgarity it's usually just a generalized insult. It may refer to his nose looking phallic, not that I ever noticed. It's not a reference to being gay.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2024 11:43 AM (M2++h)
As with any vulgarity it's usually just a generalized insult. It may refer to his nose looking phallic, not that I ever noticed. It's not a reference to being gay.
Posted by: Robert at July 17, 2024 11:52 AM (1Yy3c)
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It’s technically possible. Especially if she is heading into menopause and not all ready there. Your body has a bit of a going out of business sale with your eggs right then. But she is on the upper range of that.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2024 11:51 AM (pZEOD)
The possibility of mental retardation increases dramatically. Born Democrat.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2024 11:51 AM (pZEOD)
The possibility of mental retardation increases dramatically. Born Democrat.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 17, 2024 11:53 AM (pohLc)
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I did hear the USSS being in communication with everyone they knew the shooter was KIA damn near as soon as it happened
Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2024 11:53 AM (TQKdg)
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Well, I checked the numbers again last night. The Democrats' defunding of police and going easy on violent criminals allowed an additional 15,000 murders from 2020 to 2022 (three years).
That's definite. There were about 17,000 murders in 2019, about the same as other recent years. Then, with the "peaceful" rioting that started in 2020, the murder rate soared 32 percent, by about 5,000 in one year.
Over three years then, with the Democrats caving in to all the worst ideas, we had 15,000 more murders because cops weren't there to protect the people.
That's definite. There were about 17,000 murders in 2019, about the same as other recent years. Then, with the "peaceful" rioting that started in 2020, the murder rate soared 32 percent, by about 5,000 in one year.
Over three years then, with the Democrats caving in to all the worst ideas, we had 15,000 more murders because cops weren't there to protect the people.
Posted by: SMOD at July 17, 2024 11:53 AM (mIsnr)
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310 That to me is getting to the top through the right dick. True, she may have had a plan in mind -- a lot of fuck-to-the-top girls do -- and executed it, but without Bill nobody would have known her name. He was the rocket. She was the remora.
rocket remora would be a good name for a band
rocket remora would be a good name for a band
Posted by: anachronda at July 17, 2024 11:54 AM (oY6Yp)
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The possibility of mental retardation increases dramatically. Born Democrat.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 17, 2024 11:53 AM (pohLc)
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I thought it was a hire incidence of Downs Syndrome with later in life babies.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 17, 2024 11:53 AM (pohLc)
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I thought it was a hire incidence of Downs Syndrome with later in life babies.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 17, 2024 11:54 AM (tT6L1)
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The other great married name amongst Dems is Chasen Buttigieg. Yup Chasen Butt
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 17, 2024 11:54 AM (zte34)
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On his and his wife's salaries, he can afford a team of ghost-writers.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at July 17, 2024 11:23 AM (XeU6L)
He certainly created enough ghosts. Don't know how flattering they'd be though.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at July 17, 2024 11:23 AM (XeU6L)
He certainly created enough ghosts. Don't know how flattering they'd be though.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2024 11:54 AM (IUd0M)
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The incidence of illegal immigrants voting is negligible
Which is still greater than zero. And zero is the only acceptable number.
Which is still greater than zero. And zero is the only acceptable number.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 17, 2024 11:54 AM (99eI0)
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rocket remora would be a good name for a band
Posted by: anachronda at July 17, 2024 11:54 AM (oY6Yp)
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They perform at SpaceX launches.
Posted by: anachronda at July 17, 2024 11:54 AM (oY6Yp)
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They perform at SpaceX launches.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:55 AM (HnUIn)
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As with any vulgarity it's usually just a generalized insult. It may refer to his nose looking phallic, not that I ever noticed. It's not a reference to being gay.
See also, "dickweed". As an insult, it really makes no sense, but it's funny and so it sticks in your mind.
See also, "dickweed". As an insult, it really makes no sense, but it's funny and so it sticks in your mind.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2024 11:55 AM (xCA6C)
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Soros marries a 47 year old and wants kids? OK then.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at July 17, 2024 11:47 AM
It's the younger soros and huma ain't gonna be pumping out any kids at 47. My cousin got pregnant when she was 48 and her doctor almost stroked out. The kid turned out fine but at that age those eggs ain't what they used to be and all sorts of serious medical issues tend to crop up for the kid with those late in life pregnancies.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at July 17, 2024 11:47 AM
It's the younger soros and huma ain't gonna be pumping out any kids at 47. My cousin got pregnant when she was 48 and her doctor almost stroked out. The kid turned out fine but at that age those eggs ain't what they used to be and all sorts of serious medical issues tend to crop up for the kid with those late in life pregnancies.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 17, 2024 11:55 AM (QNSds)
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Soros marries a 47 year old and wants kids? OK then.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen
This what the Handmaid is for.
They have telling us this for years.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen
This what the Handmaid is for.
They have telling us this for years.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 17, 2024 11:55 AM (6TUIG)
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hire = higher. Stupid brain/finger connection.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 17, 2024 11:55 AM (tT6L1)
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On a related note, Trumps are now saying what the GOPe has been saying for years that we need to stop pushing the culture war, but because Trumps say it I'm now supposed to be all in. Abortions and gay marriage never hurt anyone, right?
Posted by: Ribbed at July 17, 2024 11:51 AM (Ectld)
Eh I'm more on the watch what Trump does rather than what he says. There was always a wink and a nod with Obama "marriage is between a man and a woman", "I'm a Christian" and the Left knew it was BS to unscare the normis. I can afford some of that to someone who actually fights for me when he has the chance.
I don't want him insulting pro lifers to get elected for example, but he appointed three justices that for all their idiotic faults ended RvW. Kept his promise. Did not "grow" in office.
Posted by: Ribbed at July 17, 2024 11:51 AM (Ectld)
Eh I'm more on the watch what Trump does rather than what he says. There was always a wink and a nod with Obama "marriage is between a man and a woman", "I'm a Christian" and the Left knew it was BS to unscare the normis. I can afford some of that to someone who actually fights for me when he has the chance.
I don't want him insulting pro lifers to get elected for example, but he appointed three justices that for all their idiotic faults ended RvW. Kept his promise. Did not "grow" in office.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2024 11:56 AM (QlxXp)
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I disagree. At first, I thought it was straight-up incompetence but the more I looked into it and thought about it, the more it looked like someone opened the way for that deranged little bastard--the ladder, for example. The way people who spotted him climbing the roof and tried to alert authorities were blown off. The way local police who had earlier seen the shooter with a rangefinder were ignored. It goes on and on. Sean Davis is right. This was a set-up with just enough chaff in the air to create plausible denial.
Posted by: troyriser at July 17, 2024 11:56 AM (Vvljl)
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I could be wrong, but I think I might be seeing hints of a sort of counter-revolution to the sexual revolution of the 60s starting up. Young people just getting started in life are pretty unhappy, and perhaps are getting wise to the fact that all the promiscuity being pushed at them is not helping them.
If you think about it, SOMEBODY, SOMEWHERE is always telling us what we're allowed to say and think about things. It's clearly NOT some sort of grassroots thing - it is being DICTATED from SOMEWHERE. You can tell that from how the message is EXACTLY THE SAME, regardless of which direction it comes from, and NO DEVIATIONS, and no debates are tolerated.
It's the same enemy we face in the political sphere. and that's what this war is about - exposing them, and taking them down. So when that happens - as they ARE taken down - the promiscuous, perverse stuff being pushed should start to finally evaporate.
If you think about it, SOMEBODY, SOMEWHERE is always telling us what we're allowed to say and think about things. It's clearly NOT some sort of grassroots thing - it is being DICTATED from SOMEWHERE. You can tell that from how the message is EXACTLY THE SAME, regardless of which direction it comes from, and NO DEVIATIONS, and no debates are tolerated.
It's the same enemy we face in the political sphere. and that's what this war is about - exposing them, and taking them down. So when that happens - as they ARE taken down - the promiscuous, perverse stuff being pushed should start to finally evaporate.
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 17, 2024 11:56 AM (hOOi9)
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I meant to add, the thinning out and degradation of Trump's SS Detail on Saturday tells me it was all part of the plan. I bet his regular team would not have left that rooftop unguarded or at least kept it under observation and jumped into action the moment someone appeared on it. Instead nothing was done until the assassin had fired at least 3 shots.
Tell me I'm wrong.
I meant to add, the thinning out and degradation of Trump's SS Detail on Saturday tells me it was all part of the plan. I bet his regular team would not have left that rooftop unguarded or at least kept it under observation and jumped into action the moment someone appeared on it. Instead nothing was done until the assassin had fired at least 3 shots.
Tell me I'm wrong.
Posted by: Ciampino - Wed Update #02 at July 17, 2024 11:56 AM (qfLjt)
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Van Jones is warning Dems that Amber Rose's speech at the RNC was the most dangerous to Dem's of any of the speeches made. Van Jones may be a leftist, but he's got a lot better read on the pulse of black culture than moralizing Matt Walsh does. It's about bringing in votes, Matt, not about proving how holy you are.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2024 11:56 AM (wyMQY)
Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2024 11:56 AM (B1dzx)
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As with any vulgarity it's usually just a generalized insult. It may refer to his nose looking phallic, not that I ever noticed. It's not a reference to being gay.
Posted by: Robert at July 17, 2024 11:52 AM
Compare, "nickelfucker".
Posted by: Robert at July 17, 2024 11:52 AM
Compare, "nickelfucker".
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 17, 2024 11:56 AM (ZANHd)
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For a dicknose please see "Nothing but Trouble". Dan Akroyd, Chevy Chase, Demi Moore, John Candy. 1988 maybe.
Court scene. Youll know.
Court scene. Youll know.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at July 17, 2024 11:57 AM (Z8Yh2)
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There is literally pictures of a ladder against the side of the building. So whoever is saying that is lying.
Go to the bottom of the link below and you can see the ladder against the building.
https://tinyurl.com/5n789t7t
Posted by: Thomas Bender
Why are you, and nearly everyone else, assuming the ladder in the picture, *next to a police car*, belonged to the shooter, or was even used by the shooter at all? Is it some kind of hypnotic mental block? No offense.
Daily Mail reported local police saying the shooter climbed AC equipment. Look at the pictures. Yep, AC equipment that any 20 year old could easily use to climb.
Go to the bottom of the link below and you can see the ladder against the building.
https://tinyurl.com/5n789t7t
Posted by: Thomas Bender
Why are you, and nearly everyone else, assuming the ladder in the picture, *next to a police car*, belonged to the shooter, or was even used by the shooter at all? Is it some kind of hypnotic mental block? No offense.
Daily Mail reported local police saying the shooter climbed AC equipment. Look at the pictures. Yep, AC equipment that any 20 year old could easily use to climb.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 17, 2024 11:57 AM (iRX3h)
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My interpretation of what I saw in the video is that Trump hit the deck, the Secret Service rushed over to cover him, then he popped back up pretty quickly. It struck me as reckless, and probably not what was supposed to happen.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
That's not what I saw at all. I can't find the better video where you can clearly hear the secret service agents, but there's one in command, giving orders and updates on when the tactical team for coverage arrives, when they all help Trump up, when they hear the shooter is down, when the limo is prepped and ready, and when the group is ready to move.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
That's not what I saw at all. I can't find the better video where you can clearly hear the secret service agents, but there's one in command, giving orders and updates on when the tactical team for coverage arrives, when they all help Trump up, when they hear the shooter is down, when the limo is prepped and ready, and when the group is ready to move.
Posted by: Military Moron at July 17, 2024 11:57 AM (JCZqz)
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Still it's not how he got on the roof as much as how did he know how to get there?
Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2024 11:57 AM (TQKdg)
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I'm going with PDT prioritizing which battles need to be fought now.
Deficits, trade agreements, military, DEI, etc. There are so many issues one needs to figure out which fire is the most serious.
Deficits, trade agreements, military, DEI, etc. There are so many issues one needs to figure out which fire is the most serious.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 17, 2024 11:57 AM (tT6L1)
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Van Jones is warning Dems that Amber Rose's speech at the RNC was the most dangerous to Dem's of any of the speeches made. Van Jones may be a leftist, but he's got a lot better read on the pulse of black culture than moralizing Matt Walsh does. It's about bringing in votes, Matt, not about proving how holy you are.
Despite his politics, he's one of the more astute commentators on the left.
Despite his politics, he's one of the more astute commentators on the left.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2024 11:57 AM (xCA6C)
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Intentional Incompetence.
Posted by: TC at July 17, 2024 11:58 AM (FjlUt)
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355 The incidence of illegal immigrants voting is negligible
Which is still greater than zero. And zero is the only acceptable number.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 17, 2024 11:54 AM (99eI0)
It's the same thing as saying that crime is way, way down in all of the cities that stopped reporting any statistics to the FBI.
Which is still greater than zero. And zero is the only acceptable number.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 17, 2024 11:54 AM (99eI0)
It's the same thing as saying that crime is way, way down in all of the cities that stopped reporting any statistics to the FBI.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2024 11:58 AM (wyMQY)
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Posted by: Robert at July 17, 2024 11:52 AM (1Yy3c)
Thanks. I asked spouse and he didn't know either. I guess we just use more generalized expressions such as "he's an idiot" or "clueless" but even if one doesn't like some of the choices Cruz makes or the things he says, he's not a idiot. He seems to be a very bright and articulate man,
Thanks. I asked spouse and he didn't know either. I guess we just use more generalized expressions such as "he's an idiot" or "clueless" but even if one doesn't like some of the choices Cruz makes or the things he says, he's not a idiot. He seems to be a very bright and articulate man,
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2024 11:58 AM (ljJ4J)
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When you've lost NRO...
Michael Steele @MichaelSteele 19h
You would think someone would inquire about Trump’s medical report if for no other reason than Trump has not provided any medical updates or information, neither has the hospital that treated him. Outside of Trump telling us he’s “fine”, how severe was the wound? Did he loose part of his ear (bullets do terrible things to flesh)? How long for recovery? Will the wound require cosmetic surgery? What about reports that it may not have been a bullet which wounded him but glass from the shattered teleprompter? If I missed such reports from his campaign or the hospital please post. Thank you.
Byron York @ByronYork 3h
This is a former chairman of the RNC, now an MSNBC commentator. Turns out there are, apparently, conspiracy theorists who claim Trump was not shot, that he was actually hit by a shard of glass. I talked to Dr./Rep. Ronny Jackson, who has examined and treated Trump's wound. Jackson has zero doubt that it was caused by a bullet. He also noted that such wounds can bleed a lot, as Trump's did. Plus, videos show the teleprompter panels were intact after the shooting. Glass from where?
Michael Steele @MichaelSteele 19h
You would think someone would inquire about Trump’s medical report if for no other reason than Trump has not provided any medical updates or information, neither has the hospital that treated him. Outside of Trump telling us he’s “fine”, how severe was the wound? Did he loose part of his ear (bullets do terrible things to flesh)? How long for recovery? Will the wound require cosmetic surgery? What about reports that it may not have been a bullet which wounded him but glass from the shattered teleprompter? If I missed such reports from his campaign or the hospital please post. Thank you.
Byron York @ByronYork 3h
This is a former chairman of the RNC, now an MSNBC commentator. Turns out there are, apparently, conspiracy theorists who claim Trump was not shot, that he was actually hit by a shard of glass. I talked to Dr./Rep. Ronny Jackson, who has examined and treated Trump's wound. Jackson has zero doubt that it was caused by a bullet. He also noted that such wounds can bleed a lot, as Trump's did. Plus, videos show the teleprompter panels were intact after the shooting. Glass from where?
Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 17, 2024 11:58 AM (wse2C)
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a little diversion from shooty talk:
3:48 of Trump and Melania set to romantic music -
https://tinyurl.com/572x89wt
3:48 of Trump and Melania set to romantic music -
https://tinyurl.com/572x89wt
Posted by: kallisto at July 17, 2024 11:58 AM (dCxaZ)
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I believe that Huma and Soro's spawn are engaged in a business arrangement. Kids my ass although they may possibly adopt to add some credibility to their arrangement.
Posted by: Cheri at July 17, 2024 11:59 AM (oiNtH)
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I could be wrong, but I think I might be seeing hints of a sort of counter-revolution to the sexual revolution of the 60s starting up. Young people just getting started in life are pretty unhappy, and perhaps are getting wise to the fact that all the promiscuity being pushed at them is not helping them. ...
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 17, 2024 11:56 AM (hOOi9)
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I don't think it's in endgame yet, but it *will* end one way or another. A system that, over a long timeframe, makes everyone in it unhappy will not survive. The end may be clean or dirty, but it will end because it is not fit for purpose and people will stop defending it. This particular bad system also helps repress birth rates, and starving yourself of a future is no recipe for success.
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 17, 2024 11:56 AM (hOOi9)
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I don't think it's in endgame yet, but it *will* end one way or another. A system that, over a long timeframe, makes everyone in it unhappy will not survive. The end may be clean or dirty, but it will end because it is not fit for purpose and people will stop defending it. This particular bad system also helps repress birth rates, and starving yourself of a future is no recipe for success.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 11:59 AM (HnUIn)
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132 If they were smart, they would fire that chick at the USSS, she is a textbook example of Why Everything Is Fucked.
I think generally, the plan overall is to get people used to the idea of planes falling out of the sky, terrorist attacks and general anarchy; a few dead candidates, etc because the “diversity” is uber alles.
Usss should be people with a history of hard duty that has toughed them yo the hardest job possible. What kind of background did agent kanna holsterit have before usss duty. In fact the three women in front of the car looked like it was the first real action they have seen. Even the one trying to cover Trump on stage was still ducking down not standing on her tippy toes.
I think generally, the plan overall is to get people used to the idea of planes falling out of the sky, terrorist attacks and general anarchy; a few dead candidates, etc because the “diversity” is uber alles.
Usss should be people with a history of hard duty that has toughed them yo the hardest job possible. What kind of background did agent kanna holsterit have before usss duty. In fact the three women in front of the car looked like it was the first real action they have seen. Even the one trying to cover Trump on stage was still ducking down not standing on her tippy toes.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 17, 2024 11:59 AM (uBBbP)
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My company had all the AC units stolen in the same weekend for the copper. I had the replacement units put on the roof so now 20+ feet up. No problems since.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 17, 2024 11:59 AM (pohLc)
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... The way people who spotted him climbing the roof and tried to alert authorities were blown off. The way local police who had earlier seen the shooter with a rangefinder were ignored. It goes on and on. Sean Davis is right. This was a set-up with just enough chaff in the air to create plausible denial.
Posted by: troyriser at July 17, 2024 11:56 AM (Vvljl)
Really, it's just like J6, where the MAGA crowd was screaming at the Capitol Police to do something about the vandals breaking windows, but the police just stood staring ahead like statues. Stopping it wasn't part of the plan.
Posted by: troyriser at July 17, 2024 11:56 AM (Vvljl)
Really, it's just like J6, where the MAGA crowd was screaming at the Capitol Police to do something about the vandals breaking windows, but the police just stood staring ahead like statues. Stopping it wasn't part of the plan.
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 17, 2024 11:59 AM (hOOi9)
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Just leaving a ladder out, available for anyone to use during a Trump Rally. More incompetence or more Op?
Posted by: WisRich
There's a cop car in the pic next to the ladder. Can anybody wrap their minds around the probability that the photo was taken after the shooting? Bueller? McFly?
Posted by: WisRich
There's a cop car in the pic next to the ladder. Can anybody wrap their minds around the probability that the photo was taken after the shooting? Bueller? McFly?
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 17, 2024 11:59 AM (iRX3h)
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365 Van Jones is warning Dems that Amber Rose's speech at the RNC was the most dangerous to Dem's of any of the speeches made. Van Jones may be a leftist, but he's got a lot better read on the pulse of black culture than moralizing Matt Walsh does. It's about bringing in votes, Matt, not about proving how holy you are.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2024 11:56 AM (wyMQY)
It's about telling communities they can be honest and vote for Trump, and they won't be excommunicated/made pariahs...
If you remember 2016, Trump voters immediately became the devil incarnate in blue communities...they weren't gonna have that happen again in 2020, thus they didn't show or voted Biden...
Now folks are saying it's okay in advance to vote Trump...we will. That's how a snowball happens in those communities of LIVs...
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2024 11:56 AM (wyMQY)
It's about telling communities they can be honest and vote for Trump, and they won't be excommunicated/made pariahs...
If you remember 2016, Trump voters immediately became the devil incarnate in blue communities...they weren't gonna have that happen again in 2020, thus they didn't show or voted Biden...
Now folks are saying it's okay in advance to vote Trump...we will. That's how a snowball happens in those communities of LIVs...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 17, 2024 11:59 AM (exHjb)
Posted by: Don Black at July 17, 2024 11:59 AM (/7KEl)
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Has it been confirmed that Crooks purchased ammo and a ladder the day before? Should be easy to do.
Posted by: Ciampino - Wed Update #03 at July 17, 2024 11:59 AM (qfLjt)
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Byron York @ByronYork 3h
This is a former chairman of the RNC, now an MSNBC commentator. Turns out there are, apparently, conspiracy theorists who claim Trump was not shot, that he was actually hit by a shard of glass. I talked to Dr./Rep. Ronny Jackson, who has examined and treated Trump's wound. Jackson has zero doubt that it was caused by a bullet. He also noted that such wounds can bleed a lot, as Trump's did. Plus, videos show the teleprompter panels were intact after the shooting. Glass from where?
Michael Steele is Exhibit A on the dangers of putting someone in high places because you want to show what a good, unbiased person you are.
This is a former chairman of the RNC, now an MSNBC commentator. Turns out there are, apparently, conspiracy theorists who claim Trump was not shot, that he was actually hit by a shard of glass. I talked to Dr./Rep. Ronny Jackson, who has examined and treated Trump's wound. Jackson has zero doubt that it was caused by a bullet. He also noted that such wounds can bleed a lot, as Trump's did. Plus, videos show the teleprompter panels were intact after the shooting. Glass from where?
Michael Steele is Exhibit A on the dangers of putting someone in high places because you want to show what a good, unbiased person you are.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2024 12:00 PM (xCA6C)
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That's not what I saw at all. I can't find the better video where you can clearly hear the secret service agents, but there's one in command, giving orders and updates on when the tactical team for coverage arrives, when they all help Trump up, when they hear the shooter is down, when the limo is prepped and ready, and when the group is ready to move.
Posted by: Military Moron at July 17, 2024 11:57 AM (JCZqz)
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I haven't seen/heard anything that included the verbal communication/orders.
I am fully open to being wrong.
Posted by: Military Moron at July 17, 2024 11:57 AM (JCZqz)
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I haven't seen/heard anything that included the verbal communication/orders.
I am fully open to being wrong.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 12:00 PM (HnUIn)
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377 Byron York @ByronYork 3h
This is a former chairman of the RNC, now an MSNBC commentator. Turns out there are, apparently, conspiracy theorists who claim Trump was not shot, that he was actually hit by a shard of glass. I talked to Dr./Rep. Ronny Jackson, who has examined and treated Trump's wound. Jackson has zero doubt that it was caused by a bullet. He also noted that such wounds can bleed a lot, as Trump's did. Plus, videos show the teleprompter panels were intact after the shooting. Glass from where?
Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 17, 2024 11:58 AM (wse2C)
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Why are people harping on the glass from the teleprompter? Is it supposed to make it worse for Trump that the shots hit the teleprompter and hit him?
I mean, there's grasping at straws, and then there's, "He wasn't THAT close to dying by an assassin's bullet, you know."
This is a former chairman of the RNC, now an MSNBC commentator. Turns out there are, apparently, conspiracy theorists who claim Trump was not shot, that he was actually hit by a shard of glass. I talked to Dr./Rep. Ronny Jackson, who has examined and treated Trump's wound. Jackson has zero doubt that it was caused by a bullet. He also noted that such wounds can bleed a lot, as Trump's did. Plus, videos show the teleprompter panels were intact after the shooting. Glass from where?
Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 17, 2024 11:58 AM (wse2C)
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Why are people harping on the glass from the teleprompter? Is it supposed to make it worse for Trump that the shots hit the teleprompter and hit him?
I mean, there's grasping at straws, and then there's, "He wasn't THAT close to dying by an assassin's bullet, you know."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 12:00 PM (GBKbO)
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Why are you, and nearly everyone else, assuming the ladder in the picture, *next to a police car*, belonged to the shooter, or was even used by the shooter at all? Is it some kind of hypnotic mental block? No offense.
Daily Mail reported local police saying the shooter climbed AC equipment. Look at the pictures. Yep, AC equipment that any 20 year old could easily use to climb.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 17, 2024 11:57 AM
I read a report that claimed people saw the kid carrying the ladder. At this point I have no idea on who to believe because we know for a fact that the secret service is lying to us.
Daily Mail reported local police saying the shooter climbed AC equipment. Look at the pictures. Yep, AC equipment that any 20 year old could easily use to climb.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 17, 2024 11:57 AM
I read a report that claimed people saw the kid carrying the ladder. At this point I have no idea on who to believe because we know for a fact that the secret service is lying to us.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 17, 2024 12:00 PM (QNSds)
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I meant to add, the thinning out and degradation of Trump's SS Detail on Saturday tells me it was all part of the plan. I bet his regular team would not have left that rooftop unguarded or at least kept it under observation and jumped into action the moment someone appeared on it. Instead nothing was done until the assassin had fired at least 3 shots.
Tell me I'm wrong.
Posted by: Ciampino - Wed Update #02 at July 17, 2024 11:56 AM (qfLjt)
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One other thing to consider. Who says this the first time there was lax security. It was just the first time a shooter took advantage of it.
Tell me I'm wrong.
Posted by: Ciampino - Wed Update #02 at July 17, 2024 11:56 AM (qfLjt)
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One other thing to consider. Who says this the first time there was lax security. It was just the first time a shooter took advantage of it.
Posted by: WisRich at July 17, 2024 12:00 PM (G0vdT)
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Glass from where?
Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 17, 2024 11:58 AM (wse2C)
American Glass Inc
Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 17, 2024 11:58 AM (wse2C)
American Glass Inc
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2024 12:00 PM (QlxXp)
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Glass from where?
Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 17, 2024 11:58 AM (wse2C)
I posted upthread that I heard that report put out by PA State Police, but this was right before Trump posted on Truth Social about how he heard the bullet whizzing by.
PA SP were directed to release that phony story about the teleprompter
Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 17, 2024 11:58 AM (wse2C)
I posted upthread that I heard that report put out by PA State Police, but this was right before Trump posted on Truth Social about how he heard the bullet whizzing by.
PA SP were directed to release that phony story about the teleprompter
Posted by: kallisto at July 17, 2024 12:00 PM (dCxaZ)
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@369
>>Why are you, and nearly everyone else, assuming the ladder in the picture, *next to a police car*, belonged to the shooter, or was even used by the shooter at all? Is it some kind of hypnotic mental block? No offense.
The dude got on the roof somehow, early reports said he got on with a ladder, there is a picture of a ladder against the building, this does not preclude him getting on the building any other way, but there are some people saying there was no ladder.
THERE IS A F**KING LADDER AGAINST THE BUILDING.
And who exactly is responsible for the investigation?
The USSS and the FBI.
Two stellar organizations that will get to the bottom of this cockup in a year or two.
>>Why are you, and nearly everyone else, assuming the ladder in the picture, *next to a police car*, belonged to the shooter, or was even used by the shooter at all? Is it some kind of hypnotic mental block? No offense.
The dude got on the roof somehow, early reports said he got on with a ladder, there is a picture of a ladder against the building, this does not preclude him getting on the building any other way, but there are some people saying there was no ladder.
THERE IS A F**KING LADDER AGAINST THE BUILDING.
And who exactly is responsible for the investigation?
The USSS and the FBI.
Two stellar organizations that will get to the bottom of this cockup in a year or two.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 17, 2024 12:00 PM (XV/Pl)
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Isn't the solution obvious? Common sense ladder control, and ladder free zones.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 17, 2024 12:01 PM (pohLc)
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The shooter didn't shoot him, he just threw a piece of glass.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2024 12:01 PM (QlxXp)
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"That roof was kinda steep and that's risky" is a hell of a take, but that's what we got from the DEI hire in charge of the Secret Service"
She's covering for someone/something. Either USSS in charge on site fucked up by letting them come off the roof, or failing to ensure they stayed on it, or some element deliberately left it as an opening via some action they took.
We gonna talk about how AGR was bought by Blackrock 2 years ago?
She's covering for someone/something. Either USSS in charge on site fucked up by letting them come off the roof, or failing to ensure they stayed on it, or some element deliberately left it as an opening via some action they took.
We gonna talk about how AGR was bought by Blackrock 2 years ago?
Posted by: somedood at July 17, 2024 12:01 PM (TdWp0)
Posted by: A. Haig at July 17, 2024 12:01 PM (/y8xj)
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If the overhead diagrams of the shooters position are correct, he took up an odd location on the roof. The roof is yuge. The obvious best position would have been on the right side of the roof (when facing the stage) because it's closer to point of roof access, AND gives a better, wider angle on the stage.
Yet Crooks walks all the way across the roof to the far left side. It seems a harder shot from there, more exposure to being seen, and overall counterproductive.
I could be wrong and the diagrams could be wrong. But this is another thing that raises red flags for me.
Yet Crooks walks all the way across the roof to the far left side. It seems a harder shot from there, more exposure to being seen, and overall counterproductive.
I could be wrong and the diagrams could be wrong. But this is another thing that raises red flags for me.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 12:01 PM (iFTx/)
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President Biden is finalizing plans to endorse major changes to the Supreme Court in the coming weeks, including proposals for legislation to establish term limits for the justices and an enforceable ethics code, according to two people briefed on the plans.
Both term limits and an externally enforceable ethics code, other than impeachment, would require constitutional amendments. Increasing the size of SCOTUS, however, would only require legislation.
Both term limits and an externally enforceable ethics code, other than impeachment, would require constitutional amendments. Increasing the size of SCOTUS, however, would only require legislation.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2024 12:01 PM (IUd0M)
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Sorry. Fully orchestrated
Posted by: Enough BS at July 17, 2024 12:02 PM (XhwPp)
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Really, it's just like J6, where the MAGA crowd was screaming at the Capitol Police to do something about the vandals breaking windows, but the police just stood staring ahead like statues. Stopping it wasn't part of the plan.
Posted by: MrExcitement
What are you talking about, dude? The CP started launching non-lethal into the crowd and stomped on a diabetic. What exactly were they supposed to do and get medals for it other than shooting an unarmed woman ? Jeez, man. You and your high standards....
Posted by: MrExcitement
What are you talking about, dude? The CP started launching non-lethal into the crowd and stomped on a diabetic. What exactly were they supposed to do and get medals for it other than shooting an unarmed woman ? Jeez, man. You and your high standards....
Posted by: weft cut-Bard of Avon at July 17, 2024 12:02 PM (IG4Id)
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It's about telling communities they can be honest and vote for Trump, and they won't be excommunicated/made pariahs...
If you remember 2016, Trump voters immediately became the devil incarnate in blue communities...they weren't gonna have that happen again in 2020, thus they didn't show or voted Biden...
Now folks are saying it's okay in advance to vote Trump...we will. That's how a snowball happens in those communities of LIVs...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 17, 2024 11:59 AM (exHjb)
Trump's vote count went up massively in 2020, and %-wise he did better with minorities than previously. People being bullied into not voting for Trump would've been more prevalent in 2016.
If you remember 2016, Trump voters immediately became the devil incarnate in blue communities...they weren't gonna have that happen again in 2020, thus they didn't show or voted Biden...
Now folks are saying it's okay in advance to vote Trump...we will. That's how a snowball happens in those communities of LIVs...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 17, 2024 11:59 AM (exHjb)
Trump's vote count went up massively in 2020, and %-wise he did better with minorities than previously. People being bullied into not voting for Trump would've been more prevalent in 2016.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 17, 2024 12:02 PM (eYoxG)
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And if it's supposed to be about Christianity, then again I missed something because I believe God said we were all sinners and to please leave the judgment to him."
Jesus also said go and sin no more. I believe strongly that those two issues require different responses and I think Trump's choice of Vance indicates he feels the same. Abortion is murder. Full stop it is the snuffing out of human life.It should not be condoned.
Homosexual behavior is not murder. While it should not be public policy to facilitate or encourage that behavior because it is not a positive thing for society, we also should not be busting down people's bedroom doors to police what they do in private.
On a personal level, God loves every sinner even as he hates our sin. Bans on so called "conversion therapy" that might help people who wish to do the Godly thing, even when it conflicts with their carnal nature, are ridiculous.
Ho
Jesus also said go and sin no more. I believe strongly that those two issues require different responses and I think Trump's choice of Vance indicates he feels the same. Abortion is murder. Full stop it is the snuffing out of human life.It should not be condoned.
Homosexual behavior is not murder. While it should not be public policy to facilitate or encourage that behavior because it is not a positive thing for society, we also should not be busting down people's bedroom doors to police what they do in private.
On a personal level, God loves every sinner even as he hates our sin. Bans on so called "conversion therapy" that might help people who wish to do the Godly thing, even when it conflicts with their carnal nature, are ridiculous.
Ho
Posted by: redbanzai at July 17, 2024 12:02 PM (INH2d)
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401 Both term limits and an externally enforceable ethics code, other than impeachment, would require constitutional amendments. Increasing the size of SCOTUS, however, would only require legislation.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2024 12:01 PM (IUd0M)
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Because it's failure theater for his base.
Which is a weird thing to do just over 3 months out from a general election.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2024 12:01 PM (IUd0M)
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Because it's failure theater for his base.
Which is a weird thing to do just over 3 months out from a general election.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 12:03 PM (GBKbO)
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You recall Steve Bannon's motto "Next man up"?
Antifa also uses that.
Be very vigilant.
They're not done with DJT.
Posted by: gourmand du jour
You might want to check out this link (below) to X (Twitter). The actual likely shooter was Thomas Yearick (purposely mis-identified as Crooks) who was Antifa, and had training in Syria, and very likely has a CIA handler. All his Facebook social media presence has been scrubbed in the last few days.
https://tinyurl.com/46e8jfeh
Antifa also uses that.
Be very vigilant.
They're not done with DJT.
Posted by: gourmand du jour
You might want to check out this link (below) to X (Twitter). The actual likely shooter was Thomas Yearick (purposely mis-identified as Crooks) who was Antifa, and had training in Syria, and very likely has a CIA handler. All his Facebook social media presence has been scrubbed in the last few days.
https://tinyurl.com/46e8jfeh
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at July 17, 2024 12:03 PM (vcOmj)
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Kamala =IS= being passed over.
Trump was down for about 45 seconds. Go listen to the crowd when he comes back up, they were wondering if he was dead for what must have felt like a long time.
Trump was down for about 45 seconds. Go listen to the crowd when he comes back up, they were wondering if he was dead for what must have felt like a long time.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 17, 2024 12:03 PM (cf/0E)
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"My interpretation of what I saw in the video is that Trump hit the deck, the Secret Service rushed over to cover him, then he popped back up pretty quickly. It struck me as reckless, and probably not what was supposed to happen.
Posted by: Joe Mannix"
A lot of people have pointed out that if he had not popped back up in a timely manner, shit might have have just outright kicked off.
Posted by: Joe Mannix"
A lot of people have pointed out that if he had not popped back up in a timely manner, shit might have have just outright kicked off.
Posted by: somedood at July 17, 2024 12:03 PM (TdWp0)
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a little diversion from shooty talk:
3:48 of Trump and Melania set to romantic music -
It will be SO nice not to be embarrassed when the First Lady appears again.
3:48 of Trump and Melania set to romantic music -
It will be SO nice not to be embarrassed when the First Lady appears again.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2024 12:03 PM (xCA6C)
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Today is the Feast Day for the Carmelite Martyrs of Compiegne.
Posted by: mrp at July 17, 2024 12:03 PM (rj6Yv)
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I don't know who I despise most, those who double down on their past statements that President Trump should be killed or those who, having been caught saying it and are afraid that they may suffer some financial loss (like Jack Black), now insincerely bleat that they were misunderstood or didn't mean it. The first are irredeemably evil, and the second are cowardly scum. Don't forget, the left cheered when Ronald Reagan died and sang "Ding Dong, the Witch is Dead" when Margaret Thatcher passed away. The hate is overwhelming.
Posted by: Retired, thank God! at July 17, 2024 12:04 PM (9BIt9)
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I mean, there's grasping at straws, and then there's, "He wasn't THAT close to dying by an assassin's bullet, you know."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 12:00 PM
A spectator had his brains blown out by a bullet meant to blow Trumps brains out. Rub *that* in the lefts nose.
I mean, there's grasping at straws, and then there's, "He wasn't THAT close to dying by an assassin's bullet, you know."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 12:00 PM
A spectator had his brains blown out by a bullet meant to blow Trumps brains out. Rub *that* in the lefts nose.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 17, 2024 12:04 PM (RKVpM)
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Trump's vote count went up massively in 2020, and %-wise he did better with minorities than previously. People being bullied into not voting for Trump would've been more prevalent in 2016.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 17, 2024 12:02 PM (eYoxG)
It went up nationwide...but he didn't win or lose based on the red areas...he won and lost based on very select blue areas...
Winning red states 60-40 in 20216 vs 80-20 in 2020 didn't help him. He now does understand he's gotta get the purple states support b/c red is in the bag...
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 17, 2024 12:02 PM (eYoxG)
It went up nationwide...but he didn't win or lose based on the red areas...he won and lost based on very select blue areas...
Winning red states 60-40 in 20216 vs 80-20 in 2020 didn't help him. He now does understand he's gotta get the purple states support b/c red is in the bag...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 17, 2024 12:04 PM (exHjb)
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Both term limits and an externally enforceable ethics code, other than impeachment, would require constitutional amendments. Increasing the size of SCOTUS, however, would only require legislation.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2024 12:01 PM (IUd0M)
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Because it's failure theater for his base.
Which is a weird thing to do just over 3 months out from a general election.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 12:03 PM (GBKbO)
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Desperate times require desperate measures. I think the Dem powerbrokers are seeing that this gets harder to steal with each passing day. They need to do something to try to juice legitimate turnout.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 17, 2024 12:01 PM (IUd0M)
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Because it's failure theater for his base.
Which is a weird thing to do just over 3 months out from a general election.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 12:03 PM (GBKbO)
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Desperate times require desperate measures. I think the Dem powerbrokers are seeing that this gets harder to steal with each passing day. They need to do something to try to juice legitimate turnout.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 12:04 PM (iFTx/)
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2016...damn year typo...we're not in the 20000s yet...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 17, 2024 12:05 PM (exHjb)
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I meant to add, the thinning out and degradation of Trump's SS Detail on Saturday tells me it was all part of the plan. I bet his regular team would not have left that rooftop unguarded or at least kept it under observation and jumped into action the moment someone appeared on it. Instead nothing was done until the assassin had fired at least 3 shots.
Tell me I'm wrong.
Posted by: Ciampino - Wed Update #02 at July 17, 2024 11:56 AM (qfLjt)
Sorry, but you're not wrong, so I can't oblige.
Tell me I'm wrong.
Posted by: Ciampino - Wed Update #02 at July 17, 2024 11:56 AM (qfLjt)
Sorry, but you're not wrong, so I can't oblige.
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 17, 2024 12:05 PM (hOOi9)
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Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 17, 2024 12:00 PM (XV/Pl)
No people aren’t saying there was no ladder subsequently at the scene. People are saying the shooter didn’t use a ladder to get on the roof.
An earlier report indicated the cop who peered over the roof at him was not on a ladder but on another level on the shoulders of another cop.
No people aren’t saying there was no ladder subsequently at the scene. People are saying the shooter didn’t use a ladder to get on the roof.
An earlier report indicated the cop who peered over the roof at him was not on a ladder but on another level on the shoulders of another cop.
Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2024 12:05 PM (B1dzx)
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415 Desperate times require desperate measures. I think the Dem powerbrokers are seeing that this gets harder to steal with each passing day. They need to do something to try to juice legitimate turnout.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 12:04 PM (iFTx/)
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Since the unburden us of Biden movement apparently isn't dead yet (amazingly so), I suspect it's more about that.
Also just general flailing.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 17, 2024 12:04 PM (iFTx/)
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Since the unburden us of Biden movement apparently isn't dead yet (amazingly so), I suspect it's more about that.
Also just general flailing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 12:05 PM (GBKbO)
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Michael Steele is Exhibit A on the dangers of putting someone in high places because you want to show what a good, unbiased person you are.
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Hot Air's and NRO's choice, way back then, for Chairman.
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Hot Air's and NRO's choice, way back then, for Chairman.
Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 17, 2024 12:06 PM (wse2C)
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Posted by: Don Black at July 17, 2024 11:59 AM (/7KEl)
I'm not uncomfortable with it. I probably wouldn't use it because I'd never heard it before. I think douchenozzle is funny but I don't use that either. I guess my insults are just more pedestrian.
I'm not uncomfortable with it. I probably wouldn't use it because I'd never heard it before. I think douchenozzle is funny but I don't use that either. I guess my insults are just more pedestrian.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2024 12:06 PM (TdN3k)
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"Homosexual behavior is not murder. While it should not be public policy to facilitate or encourage that behavior because it is not a positive thing for society, we also should not be busting down people's bedroom doors to police what they do in private."
I think a clear reading of scripture shows that it is on a level in God's eyes. Any society that condones or permits it publicly is on the down swing. God wasn't really that interested in public versus private. You can argue you don't agree, just please stop trying to justify it by lambasting Christians for their beliefs based in scripture.
I think a clear reading of scripture shows that it is on a level in God's eyes. Any society that condones or permits it publicly is on the down swing. God wasn't really that interested in public versus private. You can argue you don't agree, just please stop trying to justify it by lambasting Christians for their beliefs based in scripture.
Posted by: Ribbed at July 17, 2024 12:06 PM (Ectld)
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No one needs more than five rungs.
Posted by: andycanuck (wse2C) at July 17, 2024 12:06 PM (wse2C)
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 17, 2024 12:06 PM (gbOdA)
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Because it's failure theater for his base.
Which is a weird thing to do just over 3 months out from a general election.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Exactly! What kind of hack politician makes promises in an election year they don't intend to keep. Also, let's overturn Obamacare and build the dang fence!
Which is a weird thing to do just over 3 months out from a general election.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Exactly! What kind of hack politician makes promises in an election year they don't intend to keep. Also, let's overturn Obamacare and build the dang fence!
Posted by: Zombie John McCain at July 17, 2024 12:06 PM (JCZqz)
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Why are people harping on the glass from the teleprompter? Is it supposed to make it worse for Trump that the shots hit the teleprompter and hit him?
I mean, there's grasping at straws, and then there's, "He wasn't THAT close to dying by an assassin's bullet, you know."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 12:00 PM (GBKbO)
Pictures and video after Trump was shot showed both teleprompters still standing and no visible damange.
I mean, there's grasping at straws, and then there's, "He wasn't THAT close to dying by an assassin's bullet, you know."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 12:00 PM (GBKbO)
Pictures and video after Trump was shot showed both teleprompters still standing and no visible damange.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 17, 2024 12:07 PM (N39Ws)
427
Shooter was reportedly down before Trump was allowed to stand.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 17, 2024 12:07 PM (MeG8a)
428
2016...damn year typo...we're not in the 20000s yet...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 17, 2024 12:05 PM (exHjb)
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That's much later than the year 2525, which is far as our crystal ball can look.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 17, 2024 12:05 PM (exHjb)
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That's much later than the year 2525, which is far as our crystal ball can look.
Posted by: Zager and Evans at July 17, 2024 12:07 PM (HnUIn)
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You can argue you don't agree, just please stop trying to justify it by lambasting Christians for their beliefs based in scripture.
You completely missed (or ignored) his point.
You completely missed (or ignored) his point.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 17, 2024 12:07 PM (xCA6C)
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@418
>>No people aren’t saying there was no ladder subsequently at the scene. People are saying the shooter didn’t use a ladder to get on the roof. An earlier report indicated the cop who peered over the roof at him was not on a ladder but on another level on the shoulders of another cop.
We're kind of getting into Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon territory here.
Let's just agree that this was an Op to kill Trump and this needs to be gotten to the bottom to and heads need to roll.
>>No people aren’t saying there was no ladder subsequently at the scene. People are saying the shooter didn’t use a ladder to get on the roof. An earlier report indicated the cop who peered over the roof at him was not on a ladder but on another level on the shoulders of another cop.
We're kind of getting into Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon territory here.
Let's just agree that this was an Op to kill Trump and this needs to be gotten to the bottom to and heads need to roll.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 17, 2024 12:07 PM (XV/Pl)
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I would think that there's plenty of video footage that hasn't been uploaded to the web. There are only a handful of clips currently circulating. I would think there's other footage that clears up a lot of the current unknowns. But those people who have it are understandably reluctant to share it for various reasons.
It will all likely come out.
It will all likely come out.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 17, 2024 12:08 PM (Q4IgG)
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It wasn’t my ladder this time!
Posted by: Bruno Hauptmann at July 17, 2024 12:08 PM (Y8lzz)
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Intentional Incompetence.
Posted by: TC
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I'm more inclined to believe that it was just plain old incompetence. These people just aren't bright enough, or experienced enough to be competent. They are most likely relying upon the judgement of those around them without realizing that the previous generation isn't qualified either.
A fish rots from the head.
Posted by: TC
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I'm more inclined to believe that it was just plain old incompetence. These people just aren't bright enough, or experienced enough to be competent. They are most likely relying upon the judgement of those around them without realizing that the previous generation isn't qualified either.
A fish rots from the head.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at July 17, 2024 12:08 PM (XeU6L)
434
nood, you bastiches.
Posted by: weft cut-Bard of Avon at July 17, 2024 12:08 PM (IG4Id)
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330 >There is still zero explanation of how the shooter lugged a twenty-foot ladder a mile to the shooting site.
It was a twelve foot ladder. Still stupid heavy. The dude wasn't looking for an opening while lugging it around.
Posted by: BourbonChicken
Daily Mail reports the local cops saying he climbed up the AC equipment, which is clearly visible in the pics of the building, and easily climbable. The 12 foot ladder behind the tree, and *right next to the police car* is most likely, IMO, the ladder cops used to go up and check the shooters pulse.
A twenty year old doesn't need a ladder to get on top of a building like this. Ask this former avid hacky-sack player how he knows. He may have bought a ladder, and reports say he had a receipt, but walking a mile with it? Nah.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 17, 2024 11:49 AM (iRX3h)
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You may be able to climb freehand but can you do it carrying a rifle and a range-finder?
So where did the cops find a ladder so quickly?
He bought a ladder therefore unless someone says 'No, that's the Groundsman's ladder." I'm saying it was Crooks' ladder.
I bet he stashed the ladder the previous day.
It was a twelve foot ladder. Still stupid heavy. The dude wasn't looking for an opening while lugging it around.
Posted by: BourbonChicken
Daily Mail reports the local cops saying he climbed up the AC equipment, which is clearly visible in the pics of the building, and easily climbable. The 12 foot ladder behind the tree, and *right next to the police car* is most likely, IMO, the ladder cops used to go up and check the shooters pulse.
A twenty year old doesn't need a ladder to get on top of a building like this. Ask this former avid hacky-sack player how he knows. He may have bought a ladder, and reports say he had a receipt, but walking a mile with it? Nah.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 17, 2024 11:49 AM (iRX3h)
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You may be able to climb freehand but can you do it carrying a rifle and a range-finder?
So where did the cops find a ladder so quickly?
He bought a ladder therefore unless someone says 'No, that's the Groundsman's ladder." I'm saying it was Crooks' ladder.
I bet he stashed the ladder the previous day.
Posted by: Ciampino - Wed Update #05 at July 17, 2024 12:09 PM (qfLjt)
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"That roof was kinda steep and that's risky" is a hell of a take, but that's what we got from the DEI hire in charge of the Secret Service.
That reeks of, "I reached in, pulled this from my ass, and flung it at the wall to see if it would stick."
"Don't believe me, huh? Have you a degree in Slopology?"
"That roof was kinda steep and that's risky" is a hell of a take, but that's what we got from the DEI hire in charge of the Secret Service.
That reeks of, "I reached in, pulled this from my ass, and flung it at the wall to see if it would stick."
"Don't believe me, huh? Have you a degree in Slopology?"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 17, 2024 12:09 PM (lpyCJ)
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398 "That roof was kinda steep and that's risky" is a hell of a take, but that's what we got from the DEI hire in charge of the Secret Service"
Well then Ms cheatle why don't you hire people that can walk on a roof without falling off. There must a girlboss out there with that minimum qualification. Shit there are thousand of girls doing flips on four inch balance beams 4 feet off the ground. Stick one of them up there. With a radio.
Well then Ms cheatle why don't you hire people that can walk on a roof without falling off. There must a girlboss out there with that minimum qualification. Shit there are thousand of girls doing flips on four inch balance beams 4 feet off the ground. Stick one of them up there. With a radio.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 17, 2024 12:10 PM (uBBbP)
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414 Trump's vote count went up massively in 2020, and %-wise he did better with minorities than previously. People being bullied into not voting for Trump would've been more prevalent in 2016.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 17, 2024 12:02 PM (eYoxG)
It went up nationwide...but he didn't win or lose based on the red areas...he won and lost based on very select blue areas...
Winning red states 60-40 in 20216 vs 80-20 in 2020 didn't help him. He now does understand he's gotta get the purple states support b/c red is in the bag...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 17, 2024 12:04 PM (exHjb)
That has nothing to do with a fear of censure by voters though. Intuitively Trump is more of a bogeyman when he was an unknown in 2016, and the numbers tend to support that there was less resistance to voting for him based on such pressure in 2020.
On paper the official 2020 story is Trump did better with blacks in general than 2016, but Biden substantially outperformed prior D candidates with blacks in the precise regions he needed to.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 17, 2024 12:02 PM (eYoxG)
It went up nationwide...but he didn't win or lose based on the red areas...he won and lost based on very select blue areas...
Winning red states 60-40 in 20216 vs 80-20 in 2020 didn't help him. He now does understand he's gotta get the purple states support b/c red is in the bag...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 17, 2024 12:04 PM (exHjb)
That has nothing to do with a fear of censure by voters though. Intuitively Trump is more of a bogeyman when he was an unknown in 2016, and the numbers tend to support that there was less resistance to voting for him based on such pressure in 2020.
On paper the official 2020 story is Trump did better with blacks in general than 2016, but Biden substantially outperformed prior D candidates with blacks in the precise regions he needed to.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 17, 2024 12:10 PM (eYoxG)
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You might want to check out this link (below) to X (Twitter). The actual likely shooter was Thomas Yearick (purposely mis-identified as Crooks) who was Antifa, and had training in Syria, and very likely has a CIA handler. All his Facebook social media presence has been scrubbed in the last few days.
https://tinyurl.com/46e8jfeh
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at July 17, 2024 12:03 PM
If this is true, then Crooks doesn't even exist except as a name, in any context of this event. A red herring, a phantom for internet sleuths to chase, and one with a more opaque past than Barack Obama.
https://tinyurl.com/46e8jfeh
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at July 17, 2024 12:03 PM
If this is true, then Crooks doesn't even exist except as a name, in any context of this event. A red herring, a phantom for internet sleuths to chase, and one with a more opaque past than Barack Obama.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 17, 2024 12:10 PM (iRX3h)
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btw, info
Someone on the chans ID'ed the transmitter the shooter had on them. It's a legit remote control for a detonator system - you can buy them used at cannon suppliers.
Someone on the chans ID'ed the transmitter the shooter had on them. It's a legit remote control for a detonator system - you can buy them used at cannon suppliers.
Posted by: somedood at July 17, 2024 12:11 PM (TdWp0)
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Why are people harping on the glass from the teleprompter? Is it supposed to make it worse for Trump that the shots hit the teleprompter and hit him?
I mean, there's grasping at straws, and then there's, "He wasn't THAT close to dying by an assassin's bullet, you know."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 12:00 PM (GBKbO)
The Left sends a lot of stray voltage out there in the hope of diffusing the emotional impact of any story they don't like. The more they have us yelling about boring things like roof slopes and teleprompters, the better for them.
I think even the complaints about the "bandage" are intended to do it but it's a huge mistake because that will without a doubt create sympathy for Trump and make them look like the monsters they are.
I mean, there's grasping at straws, and then there's, "He wasn't THAT close to dying by an assassin's bullet, you know."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, laughing at the clowns with Preston Sturges at July 17, 2024 12:00 PM (GBKbO)
The Left sends a lot of stray voltage out there in the hope of diffusing the emotional impact of any story they don't like. The more they have us yelling about boring things like roof slopes and teleprompters, the better for them.
I think even the complaints about the "bandage" are intended to do it but it's a huge mistake because that will without a doubt create sympathy for Trump and make them look like the monsters they are.
Posted by: ... at July 17, 2024 12:11 PM (QlxXp)
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#422
In Lawrence v Texas the cops walked through an open door to investigate the distress NOISE they were hearing. It was that guy in Senate Judiciary Conference Room again who was getting railed by Senator X !
Nobody busted any doors down. It was a plain view crime, arrest and conviction. But the stupid court said falsely it was a private act. And buggery was legal throughout the fruited plain.
In Lawrence v Texas the cops walked through an open door to investigate the distress NOISE they were hearing. It was that guy in Senate Judiciary Conference Room again who was getting railed by Senator X !
Nobody busted any doors down. It was a plain view crime, arrest and conviction. But the stupid court said falsely it was a private act. And buggery was legal throughout the fruited plain.
Posted by: torabora at July 17, 2024 12:11 PM (SRJk7)
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Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 17, 2024 12:07 PM (XV/Pl)
I understand what you’re saying but I think the issue of a ladder is very very important regard to the question of incompetence, conspiracy ,etc.
I understand what you’re saying but I think the issue of a ladder is very very important regard to the question of incompetence, conspiracy ,etc.
Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2024 12:11 PM (B1dzx)
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If anything and if worse suspicions are confirmed, this only proves that the cheat machine can only go so far. If it was fool proof, they wouldn't want to risk the Trump martyr effect.
Posted by: theATL at July 17, 2024 12:11 PM (GhJWt)
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>>> 408
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Trump was down for about 45 seconds. Go listen to the crowd when he comes back up, they were wondering if he was dead for what must have felt like a long time.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 17, 2024 12:03 PM (cf/0E)
>>> 409 "My interpretation of what I saw in the video is that Trump hit the deck, the Secret Service rushed over to cover him, then he popped back up pretty quickly. It struck me as reckless, and probably not what was supposed to happen.
Posted by: Joe Mannix"
A lot of people have pointed out that if he had not popped back up in a timely manner, shit might have have just outright kicked off.
Posted by: somedood at July 17, 2024 12:03 PM (TdWp0)
I am one of them. I think the commies *still* don't understand how lucky *they* were, too.
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Trump was down for about 45 seconds. Go listen to the crowd when he comes back up, they were wondering if he was dead for what must have felt like a long time.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 17, 2024 12:03 PM (cf/0E)
>>> 409 "My interpretation of what I saw in the video is that Trump hit the deck, the Secret Service rushed over to cover him, then he popped back up pretty quickly. It struck me as reckless, and probably not what was supposed to happen.
Posted by: Joe Mannix"
A lot of people have pointed out that if he had not popped back up in a timely manner, shit might have have just outright kicked off.
Posted by: somedood at July 17, 2024 12:03 PM (TdWp0)
I am one of them. I think the commies *still* don't understand how lucky *they* were, too.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 17, 2024 12:11 PM (VavZF)
446
439 If this is true, then Crooks doesn't even exist except as a name, in any context of this event. A red herring, a phantom for internet sleuths to chase, and one with a more opaque past than Barack Obama.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July
They found high school friends who basically said he was the class nerd and bullied relentlessly, including his school counselor.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July
They found high school friends who basically said he was the class nerd and bullied relentlessly, including his school counselor.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2024 12:11 PM (pZEOD)
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One rung a month ought to be enough for anybody.
Posted by: Your neighborhood AWFL at July 17, 2024 12:12 PM (V5NOZ)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 17, 2024 12:12 PM (VavZF)
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"You completely missed (or ignored) his point."
Sure. Quoting versus out of context, which is what the original comment was about or co-opting Christianity for your very vague religious beliefs like Trump does, I can see how I am probably way off base. This is exactly what the GOPe has done for years and now that Trump is saying it, everyone is happy to go along. This about giving up the culture war and pretending that makes things better.
Sure. Quoting versus out of context, which is what the original comment was about or co-opting Christianity for your very vague religious beliefs like Trump does, I can see how I am probably way off base. This is exactly what the GOPe has done for years and now that Trump is saying it, everyone is happy to go along. This about giving up the culture war and pretending that makes things better.
Posted by: Ribbed at July 17, 2024 12:12 PM (Ectld)
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Nobody busted any doors down. It was a plain view crime, arrest and conviction. But the stupid court said falsely it was a private act. And buggery was legal throughout the fruited plain.
Posted by: torabora at July 17, 2024 12:11 PM (SRJk7)
Yeah why did they arrest the Key West woman? It was a private sexual act. !!
Posted by: torabora at July 17, 2024 12:11 PM (SRJk7)
Yeah why did they arrest the Key West woman? It was a private sexual act. !!
Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2024 12:13 PM (B1dzx)
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 17, 2024 12:13 PM (iRX3h)
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We're kind of getting into Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon territory here.
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Tremors was a masterpiece. Kevin should have received an Oscar.
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Tremors was a masterpiece. Kevin should have received an Oscar.
Posted by: Pudinhead at July 17, 2024 12:13 PM (n17eQ)
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Someone please show how a 5' ladder gets someone up on the roof. Just do it.
Posted by: torabora at July 17, 2024 12:14 PM (SRJk7)
454
the commentariat on this blog alone is easily 50% former libs/dems
Posted by: kallisto at July 17, 2024 11:09 AM (dCxaZ)
I am. Being in the Jihad Air Circus on sept 11 did it for me.
Posted by: kallisto at July 17, 2024 11:09 AM (dCxaZ)
I am. Being in the Jihad Air Circus on sept 11 did it for me.
Posted by: Marcus Gravey at July 17, 2024 12:14 PM (TIizU)
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Claim is ladder bought same day at Home Depot. I want to know the model # so I can refer to it as my murder ladder.
Posted by: torabora at July 17, 2024 12:16 PM (SRJk7)
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Someone please show how a 5' ladder gets someone up on the roof. Just do it.
Posted by: torabora
What 5' ladder? The ladder in the pic is clearly a 12' aluminum folding ladder, and reaches the roof edge. Count the steps.
Posted by: torabora
What 5' ladder? The ladder in the pic is clearly a 12' aluminum folding ladder, and reaches the roof edge. Count the steps.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 17, 2024 12:17 PM (iRX3h)
457
442 #422
In Lawrence v Texas the cops walked through an open door to investigate the distress NOISE they were hearing. It was that guy in Senate Judiciary Conference Room again who was getting railed by Senator X !
Nobody busted any doors down. It was a plain view crime, arrest and conviction. But the stupid court said falsely it was a private act. And buggery was legal throughout the fruited plain.
Posted by: torabora at July
That is not at all what happened!
In Lawrence v Texas the cops walked through an open door to investigate the distress NOISE they were hearing. It was that guy in Senate Judiciary Conference Room again who was getting railed by Senator X !
Nobody busted any doors down. It was a plain view crime, arrest and conviction. But the stupid court said falsely it was a private act. And buggery was legal throughout the fruited plain.
Posted by: torabora at July
That is not at all what happened!
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2024 12:18 PM (pZEOD)
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Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 17, 2024 12:17 PM (iRX3h)
Shooter bought a 10 foot one piece ladder at Home Depot. I guess it could have been transported in a car but it’s not the same ladder as in the photo. I assume that’s the ladder that LE used to get on the roof after the fact.
Shooter bought a 10 foot one piece ladder at Home Depot. I guess it could have been transported in a car but it’s not the same ladder as in the photo. I assume that’s the ladder that LE used to get on the roof after the fact.
Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2024 12:19 PM (B1dzx)
459
CNN PDT can get to 330
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 17, 2024 12:20 PM (gbOdA)
Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2024 12:21 PM (B1dzx)
461
I was thinking last night about the cap on Trump support. It might be time to put together something like this:
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Don't like high costs and high crime? Can't convince yourself to vote for Donald Trump?
When voting, write in someone you think might do the job well. Make sure neither party can "claim" you meant to vote for them, when the votes are counted!
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I'm not sure how best to get this out in front of people. While it doesn't mean more votes for Trump, it would make it harder to fill in a selection during counting....
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Don't like high costs and high crime? Can't convince yourself to vote for Donald Trump?
When voting, write in someone you think might do the job well. Make sure neither party can "claim" you meant to vote for them, when the votes are counted!
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I'm not sure how best to get this out in front of people. While it doesn't mean more votes for Trump, it would make it harder to fill in a selection during counting....
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 17, 2024 12:21 PM (VNX3d)
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450 Yeah why did they arrest the Key West woman? It was a private sexual act. !!
Posted by: polynikes at July 17
3 gay guys were hanging out. One pair has been a couple off and on. This person got jealous because the other 2 were flirting. He left the apartment, told the police a black man was going crazy with a weapon. The police opened the closed, but unlocked, apartment door. 1 cop said they saw anal, another said oral and 2 didn’t report any sexual activity. They were charged with deviate sexual conduct, and pled not guilty. The issue was the right to privacy.
Posted by: polynikes at July 17
3 gay guys were hanging out. One pair has been a couple off and on. This person got jealous because the other 2 were flirting. He left the apartment, told the police a black man was going crazy with a weapon. The police opened the closed, but unlocked, apartment door. 1 cop said they saw anal, another said oral and 2 didn’t report any sexual activity. They were charged with deviate sexual conduct, and pled not guilty. The issue was the right to privacy.
Posted by: Piper at July 17, 2024 12:23 PM (pZEOD)
463
435
How do the local cops know he used the AC to climb? Did they see him climb? If not then they are guessing, same as everyone else. If they saw him climb then they are really in the shits.
Fact is he did buy a ladder. Is that ladder the one he bought? Pretty easy to find out.
How do the local cops know he used the AC to climb? Did they see him climb? If not then they are guessing, same as everyone else. If they saw him climb then they are really in the shits.
Fact is he did buy a ladder. Is that ladder the one he bought? Pretty easy to find out.
Posted by: Ciampino - Wed Update #06 at July 17, 2024 12:27 PM (qfLjt)
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Of course it's a conspiracy. There have been multiple conspiracies against him for like 8 years already. Helllloooo?!?!?! So along comes just a silly coincidence that nearly solves the deep state's problem. Puhleeeze...
Posted by: Simplemind at July 17, 2024 12:32 PM (la6rf)
465
So Very, Very Wrong. Killing Trump has always been an integral part of the democrats' campaign strategy, just like rigging the primaries for Biden to avoid a bruising primary season, then ambushing him with a non-medicated evening debate to set the stage for replacing him with Harris. Killing Trump days before the RNC effectively leaves the GOP without a candidate, so the Cackling California C***sucke cruises into the White House.
The highest levels of the US government were plotting this for months.
The highest levels of the US government were plotting this for months.
Posted by: Putie at July 17, 2024 12:34 PM (FhsXb)
Posted by: Paisley at July 17, 2024 12:38 PM (ny1NG)
467
"The roof was too slopey and the weather was too hot."
Every roofing contractor in the nation begs to differ, even though OSHA reports that roofers have the highest fatality rate of all professions.
Every roofing contractor in the nation begs to differ, even though OSHA reports that roofers have the highest fatality rate of all professions.
Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at July 17, 2024 12:39 PM (TOe+Q)
468
436
"Don't believe me, huh? Have you a degree in Slopology?"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 17, 2024 12:09 PM (lpyCJ)
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Will a PhD in Slantology with a minor in Tin-Roofing do?
"Don't believe me, huh? Have you a degree in Slopology?"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 17, 2024 12:09 PM (lpyCJ)
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Will a PhD in Slantology with a minor in Tin-Roofing do?
Posted by: Ciampino - Humor #07 at July 17, 2024 12:42 PM (qfLjt)
469
That's not what I saw at all. I can't find the better video where you can clearly hear the secret service agents, but there's one in command, giving orders and updates on when the tactical team for coverage arrives, when they all help Trump up, when they hear the shooter is down, when the limo is prepped and ready, and when the group is ready to move.
Posted by: Military Moron at July 17, 2024 11:57 AM (JCZqz)
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I haven't seen/heard anything that included the verbal communication/orders.
I am fully open to being wrong.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 12:00 PM (HnUIn)
Watch the first few minutes of Megan Kelly. The video she runs has the full audio.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1UGtmVT5u4
Posted by: Military Moron at July 17, 2024 11:57 AM (JCZqz)
++++
I haven't seen/heard anything that included the verbal communication/orders.
I am fully open to being wrong.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 17, 2024 12:00 PM (HnUIn)
Watch the first few minutes of Megan Kelly. The video she runs has the full audio.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1UGtmVT5u4
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at July 17, 2024 01:03 PM (iODuv)
Posted by: omm at July 17, 2024 01:23 PM (WCuBP)
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If a Cabinet Secretary stiffs the House of Representatives, why doesn't the House use the power of the purse? Cut their budget 20% and ask the same question. If the Secretary still refuses to talk, or makes a public stink, 21%. If the president threatens a veto, 22% or nothing, president's choice. It was put in the Constitution for a reason!
Posted by: JB1000 at July 17, 2024 01:33 PM (lp0ty)
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